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About time, Jon. We said months ago he could and should go to family law court to get a better order.
Child support orders are based on your time with the kids. If the kids are with you 25% of the time, you might pay $750 in child support. If you start spending 40% of your time with them, it's maybe bumped down to $300-$400. Once you start spending more than 50% of the time with them, you should petition the court to ask the other parent to pay.
Kate has also pretended that Jon isn't paying child support and that she needs Dancing With the Stars. $20,000 a month in child support isn't enough for you, Kate???
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Admin, sorry to hear about your illness, glad you're back.
You are gracious and patient in allowing all voices to be heard on your blog. Bloggers posting info who are supposedly 'in the know' are suspicious, especially when they post under 'Anonymous.'
I have several family members who have gone through divorces. Some were amicable, some not. Lessons learned in watching and helping them through their divorce experiences were interesting. People reveal their true self when they're negotiating & navigating through their divorce. How do they place their child/ren's needs first & foremost? I am always impressed when parents, even when their relationship with their ex was conflictual, were able to work through their issues for the sake of their child/children.
Jon is asking for an equal opportunity to parent their children AND a reduction of child support paid to Kate. He is also asking for a 'first right of refusal' since Kate is NOT able to be at home with the kids. Why NOT allow the other parent more time with their children if Kate's job takes her away from home. Kate alledgedly refused to allow Jon more time with the kids, she prefers to have strangers in the children's home instead of their father. Why?
How is Jon's request for more time and child support reduction any different than any other divorce proceeding? Divorcing men & women across the nation go through these negotiations daily. I have a friend who petitioned the court to increase her child support when she discovered her ex received a pay raise. The court reviewed her petition, they went to court with current pay stubs and her child support payments were increased.
Jon is doing the same as any other divorcing couple. The only difference is their divorce is in the public arena.
Anonymous said...
Very good read and not from a inside source.
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/smallscreen/news/article_1546476.php
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Sorry, but I call PR bull...
Caption under picture of Kate and the writer?...
"Kate and April, no Diva here- or bodyguard in the trailer"...photo above this one? Of Maks and April...good old Stevie's head can be seen as he stands right behind where Kate is sitting.
I understand there to be serious threats in the makeup trailer!
It is sweet of TLC to pay someone to write nice things about Kate...they must truly care for her! (sorry, snippy today!)
--MK
I can't believe the conspiracy theories. Kate wants attention and apparently it does not matter how she gets that attention--selling her children's childhood, being shown as a shrew on national tv, making a fool of herself on DWTS, crying "poor", or the worst--taking probably the most tramatic event in her children's life and disclosing private info about it in a book. Another J&K+8 I think can't happen, because the kids won't cooperate, and she wants all the attention--like the last episodes they did.
I think she wants what she said she wants--a career in hollywood or a talk show. She should have been told not to go on DWTS and show that she can not "perform" or say things like, "if I am thinking about making dinner that is what you will see on my face" cuz she can't hide things well. Uh, how will you ever be an "actress" then???
I do think that Jon has a trust, and it is possible that there is still money left if he only gets a certain amount each year...my dad has a trust with the money all in investments and he gets $50000/year from interest/dividends/etc. from it. It probably is not enough to live on, but combined with the settlement and the money they made, he is proably set for a while anyway, especially if he can get them to downsize their lifestyles.
One conspiracy theory that I do think has some weight, is that TLC owns the house. Why would you set up a trust and not name yourself and spouse as trustee or have the house in your name??? So I wonder if that is why they did the whole, we keep the house and share it idea. Anyone can see that with such a controling person like Kate that is going to be bad news...
This is too long, but lastly, I think that Jon thought that they could work together making decisions for their family even though they were no longer married. I think that is why he hasn't fought harder...Kate's been playing him...and I think she flipped the tables on him when she went on DWTS and he is starting to realize that she is just using him to get what she wants which is for the public to love her.
"I'll follow you until you love me...paparazzi"
--MK
Jon Gosselin Files for Custody
Posted Apr 7th 2010 2:57PM
Jon Gosselin has just filed legal papers formerly asking a Pennsylvania judge for primary custody of the 8 kids he had with Kate Gosselin.
Jon also wants the child support order that is currently in place reviewed by the judge. Jon claims the arbitrator in the divorce "failed to take into consideration the numerous factors provided for by the law in PA."
TMZ broke the story that Jon's lawyer, Anthony F. List, feels Kate is an "absentee mom" now that she is in Hollywood on "Dancing with the Stars."
Kate currently has primary custody and Jon is required to pay $20,000 a month in child support.
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0kRXby18T
Gads, I really do hope the kids are in therapy but I'm beginning to wonder if that was ever put in place.
I just read the court papers on TMZ and interestingly, it says that Kate never provided the Arbitraitor the details of her expenses (page 5 #15) that was spoken about in the media last year when all they were going thru the divorce proceedings. ADMIN: how was the Arbitraitor able to determine how much Jon has to pay if Kate never gave them factual and realistic numbers?
It would be nice if you could be sure that the kids are in therapy. Even if it is not ideal therapy. Someone on another blog, who is a therapist, said that ideally each child would have their own therapist. That the children would go to an office, not their home for therapy. There are certain tools a therapist uses when dealing with kids, that they could take with them, but, it would be harder. Also, going to an office, somewhere other than home, helps the child feel more protected. Same with having their own therapist, rather than sharing with 7 others.
If in fact, the Gosselin children are in therapy with a therapist that will come to their house, that is better than nothing, but, not ideal for the kids.
I am in the mental health field, and I personally believe that not only is going to the house in this situation unprofessional, but more detrimental to the mental health of those children. The biggest problem here is that Kate is soooo controling (like her talk about school lunches...eat your sandwich then the sweets or you don't get to eat your sweets...like they are going to do that!) by going to the house, the therapist is essentially falling under Kate's control. Not to mention the fact that there would be no privacy for the children because you can probably hear through the walls of the house, etc, they may not feel comfortable (esp the older girls) to really let loose and yell or cry or whatever because mommy might be right outside. I do not believe that you can do effective therapy in those situations.
And, if Kate is doing therapy in the house, I think that is a big nono because it is possible that the kids would overhear something upsetting, or see her emotional and I think that that would mentally harm them as well.
--MK
"She has a new plan and its not to trash Jon for the sake of her chhildren."
Really? Because I don't think I have ever seen her on a talk show NOT trashing Jon. It's what she does.
Kate needs to go back to what she knows best, Bedpans and taking pictures of the results.
On Lopez tonnight Bruno said Kate danced like crap, that her dancing was a train wreck. It is on TMZ
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/08/bruno-tonioli-kate-gosselin-lopez-tonight-crap-catastrophe-dreadful-george-lopez/
Glad someone calls it like the rest of us see it.
nanb
Kate needs to go back to what she knows best, Bedpans and taking pictures of the results.
Both good points, just wondering.
It would be next to impossible for someone to pretend/act the role of a person with narcissistic personality disorder with such accuracy...much less Kate. And she plays it perfectly...so any theories that this is an act would seem impossible to me. For this reason and for multiple others.
I agree with the point on the subpoenas also...unless somehow, all the evidence and the court proceedings were not allowed to be revealed....because to date, TLC has gone to the ends of the earth to prevent negative info from coming out about Kate (and about TLC) and the things that could be revealed in a court proceeding like this would be a nightmare for them...and they would do whatever it took to prevent this.
It makes me chuckle...that Kate "doesn't want to embarrass the kids" by not revealing this non-payment of child support baloney. First of all, it would embarrass Jon, not the kids. And second...embarrass the kids? What about exposing them going to the bathroom, what was in the potty? A child being impacted? But THIS would be more embarrassing? Thanks for the laugh.
The only lemons involved here are the one Kate seems to be sucking on in most of her photos.
dee3
Question for the Admin: If Jon's attorney subpoenaed (sp?) the Nannies, the TLC camera crews, the cooks and others who might have insights into the quantity and quality of time that Kate spends with the kids, would they be allowed to give depositions or testify despite the non-disclosure contract they signed when employed? If Jon and his lawyers are smart, they will obtain statements from everyone employed or present in that home for the last 5 years regarding Kate's presence in her childrens' day to day lives - again, both quantity AND quality...
The only thing Kate is pissed about in these court filings is how much of her income is revealed. She knows most Americans won't relate to her poverty wails when child support is $21,000 a month. Expect to hear reports of her expenses soon - her mortgage, her taxes, her grocery bill - she won't be making any statements about her appearance/maintenance costs, spas, hotels, perks, etc. If she is kept on DWTS to the top 3,which I think is the plan, there is going to be a lot of bitter resentment boiling against her. Nobody enjoys a fixed contest.
I have often wondered (major conspiracy ahead, read at your own risk) if Jon and Kate were both in on a huge plan by TLC to orchestrate a ratings bonanza by using them both as puppets. What if Kate and Jon actually are both IN on this whole thing? What if Jon is being paid to be trashed? What if everything that has happened thus far has been under the supervision of TLC? I know it's far fetched but nothing would surprise me at this point.
I don't think there will be version 2 of Jon and Kate + 8 because Queen Freebie Irene wants to escape the McMansion and make some big giant bucks.
Hope you feel better Admin!
Diane, thanks for the Fallon clip, it was funny!
French Canadian, thanks for the link to that article. Interesting! I think it's wrong she put such personal letters out there to her children. It's one thing if they were just messages of love but to go into their personal issues and discussing the marital problems etc for everyone to read is just wrong. The kids are still so young! The show ended when they were young enough to get their normal lives back. Yes, there are DVDs but now there's this book too. Yikes.
Jon is a lazy POS.
He halted filming for his own selfish reasons and then settled with TLC for his own selfish reasons.
If you read his lawyers statement very carefully he states he may file a motion. He is trying to negotiate for something plain and simple and it isn't more time with his kids.
I still want to know how people are so sure Jon hasn't been paying his share adjudged by the Court. Just because Kate skirts around the issue in the media? Unless you work for the attorneys, the Court or the Child Support Enforcement Agency, you are just ASSuming Jon isn't paying just on Kate's "say so".
And we all know Kate is everso truthful.
Thanks.
Jon made many mistakes and the media trashed him continually for it. That doesn't make him a bad person. He made bad decisions. Haven't we all?
I wish him the best and those kids should be with him as much as possible.
I believe Jon DOES love his children. I probably don't believe that Jon is doing this custody fight because he loves them though. I wish it was. I think it's to gain control over something. Money, power over Kate, something along those lines.
I can't blame Jon for wanting to ruin Kate right now. Everything is going her way right now. She had a huge part in their marriage going down and she hasn't really had to take any responsibility for it because Jon acted like an idiot this past year. That is his own fault. But I can see him feeling that Kate got off scott free because TLC was backing her and keeping her under her control and she came off looking like a woman done wrong. I think Jon was done wrong by Kate first and he just didn't handle it well.
Jon did act childish during the interviews and it hurt him. Kate "taking the high road" even when she really didn't sometimes worked for her.
I don't think her "career" will last. Being on reality shows is not a "career" even if it's all you do.
Kate on Amazing Race? I'd love to see that. Who would be her partner? Steve? I can't see anyone else putting up with her.
Survivor? Is there a "Celebrity Survivor"? I don't think they do that. But it would be interesting... especially if they are treated the same as every other past contestant and not like a celebrity. Then again isn't there "I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here" already?
Admin.,
I think we can assume Jon inherited money from his Dad. It is my understanding that money you inherit is yours (Jon's), not theirs (Jon and Kate). Could Jon still have the money he inherited and that may have increased considerably? Is my understanding of inherited money correct? That Kate cannot touch it and it is not half hers?
To the other "anonymous"...let's say that I accept that you are "in the know". Here's the only problem I have: What you are writing here sounds reasonable for a normal person...but not for a person with NPD. Do you have any medical or psych training/experience?
I think this "plan" you're writing of sounds great...but Kate won't be able to carry it out. The main reason there are so many who dislike her is that her narcissism/NPD shines through so clearly....and makes her very unlikeable to many. This is what is making it become more and more unlikely that she will ever get any sort of show where she would be taken seriously. Her only big attraction now is that so many watch because they DON'T like her....but train-wreck effects are temporary and people will lose interest.
Even Kate herself said that she didn't care if people love her or hate her, as long as they were bringing in the ratings (for DWTS)...but it's a poor long-term plan....and will doom her to only doing reality-type shows....for a limited amount of time.
Due to her personality disorder, she's causing more and more people to dislike her and making herself more and more of a laughing-stock. That's a good plan?
dee3
Yeah if he REALLY wanted to get out of his obligation to his kids, he'd do what my dad did and terminate his parental rights. :( Then it's no taking care of kids, no paying child support, no being a dad, no nothing. (As in the case of the ex-wife remarrying and the stepfather adopting the kids, etc.)
He wants to spend MORE time with them. Try to see it from the kids' point of view: this is their dad and they love him like crazy. Of course they want to be with him more! I would have given my left leg to be with my dad more as a kid!
Exactly, child support is directly related to your time with the kids. The more time you spend, the less you pay. I encounter clients all the time awarded custody of their children who are freaking out because the child support division, which is often separate, is still making them pay. I tell them take a deep breath, show them your custody order, and you'll be off the hook.
The whole point is either you are WITH YOUR CHILD, and thus financially and emotionally supporting them, or you are not with your child and you need to pay for the time you're not there. You don't do BOTH.
Jon isn't taking away money. Think of it as a scale. When one side goes up, the other goes down. The child support figure should in theory remain the same. It's just a matter of who is paying. If Jon gets full custody, then Kate may owe $20,000 in support.
I would imagine Jon's money is interest made from the money they made off the show and other things. Remember, at its height, they were getting paid $75,000 per EPISODE for J&K Plus 8. That thing ran four seasons. Despite the fact that they spent a lot, they also probably still had a lot, each of them.
She is continuing to get paid by TLC, he is not. But the money he's paying in child support is most definitely interest income from the principal.
I wonder why in the world $252,000 a year is needed to house, clothe, feed and educate eight kids. The tony, exclusive private school that is a two hour round trip bus ride away is certainly not necessary. The million dollar mansion on 24 acres, no doubt with a high cost of keeping it up (property taxes, insurance, grounds, maintenance, repairs, etc) is certainly not necessary for the happiness or well-being of the kids.
I'd be far more impressed with Kate's constant hand-wringing and woe is me BS if she vetoed all her tanning, manicures, expensive extensions, plastic surgeries and makeovers in favor of making sure her kids were taken care of. Girlfriend doesn't worry about buying MILK, gimme a break. Unless it's gold-plated milk or something.
Whoever said it above is right: they BOTH need to get normal-people jobs. Neither one of them has what it takes to be a celebrity. Jon seems more in touch with this reality than she does. Far more. As a nurse, she could pull in around $70,000 a year in her area and that's a lowball figure. She would work a few long days a week and have the rest of the time off. She could find a school that is closer and less expensive. They could sell the expensive home and move into something still roomy and private but not nearly as big and high-maintenance.
But that's for rational people. Not her. She wants A-T-T-E-N-T-I-O-N.
I went through my parent's divorce at the same age the tups are going through it. It was horrible. But at least the whole world wasn't witness to it, recording everything, including my mother's horrible ugly comments about the size of my dad's penis.
For shame, for shame.
Anonymous,
If Jon and Kate are wealthy the kids can receive a percentage of w/e income they make. I don't see how $21k is barely worth mentioning, when asked if Jon provides child support. If Kate receives $21k per month and is struggling like she portrays herself to be and requires more money to survive (DWTS paycheck). She clearly isn't the supermom she claims to be and has some mixed up priorities on what necessities for her kids are. So Kate can spend her money on $7k hair extensions but Jon needs to pay for a pool boy? Kate can spoil herself with tanning and pedicures but as soon Jon does something he's selfish? The hypocrisy in statements like that are mind boggling
Anonymous, please explain the difference, by site between a rolled ciggarete and a rolled joint?
You could also roll oregano and it'll look the same too. Personally, I think it was a joint but to assume because it's rolled is ignorant.
Jon does both.
I agree. I think weed is much better than booze.
Not sure why you asked me if I know all about joints, then itsaboutthekids? Maybe you took a personal swipe in your frustration with me because I disagree about Jon's character and motives. I'd like to state my opinions without the nastiness that always results when I disagree with the fans of these two.
Yeah poor kids, they won't get $250,000 a year to buy matching outfits for every different day of the week. Maybe they can take the other $200,000 Kate makes from DWTS and pool it together to buy milk for their poor struggling mother!
You have to be delusional if you think $21,000 a month is needed to support a family, especially one where every purchase is made with 'coupons'. How dare Jon want to spend time with his kids instead of nannies when Kate is on DWTS or on her book tour.
So Jon is a slacker because he wants spousal support if the custody agreement changes? But Kate is just a poor single mother with her $21k a month?
Keep your fingers crossed. She may be going home in a few minutes and Jon will get what he deserves- an order from the judge to shut the H&%% up.
Come on, MK, it was a joint. What ELSE would be in that but a little Mary Jane. This is what I mean by looking gullible.
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I once worked with a woman who rolled all of her own cigarettes and smoked them on break at work so I know it was tobacco in those papers. It is possible.
My husband and I both work FT and we have a nanny for our 2 boys and there are times when I am at home and our nanny will be there as well. I don't think there is anything wrong with having a nanny there to help out Jon or Kate if they are at home. If I'm paying for a FT nanny and happen to be home, I love that I can spend time with my boys and they can help out with the housework, etc. I guess the problem is that if what is mentioned with having 5-6 nannies working for them and Kate utilizes all of them when she is home, that would seem a bit much. JMO of course.
Jon isn't trying to get more time with his kids. Jon is trying to get more money out of Kate, and Jon is using his kids to do so. Child exploitation.
Jons been padlocked out of his apartment in NYC. He's living with his mother
Yeah, itsaboutthekids,
Circumstances have definitely changed here. Jon's latest girlfriend kicked him out.
Here's the full article at US magazine:
Ex-spouses Jon and Kate Gosselin may be headed back to court.
An attorney for Jon, 33, plans to file an emergency petition this week in Berks County, Penn., for primary physical custody of his eight children with ex-wife Kate, TMZ reported Tuesday.
The reality dad's new lawyer Anthony F. List tells TMZ that Kate, 35, is "an absentee mom." List says her current stint on Dancing with the Stars prohibits her from spending "quality time" with twins Cara and Mady, 9, and sextuplets Aaden, Alexis, Collin, Hannah, Joel and Leah, 5. (Kate and DWTS partner Tony Dovolani have been rehearsing in the basement of the $1.1 million Wernersville, Penn. home she shares with her kids.)
Also on the docket: the child support situation. Currently, Jon pays Kate $22,000 a month in child support. The attorney charges that the fee is "ridiculous," and he may ask a judge to reverse the arrangement and demand that Kate pay Jon, though he declined to specify how much.
A source close to Jon tells UsMagazine.com that he "seems genuinely upset that the kids are growing up with strangers most of the time. Even when Kate's at the house, she has a nanny there to do all the work."
The source also adds that "Jon is anxious to find a place of his own close to the kids so he can have a little more stability for them," and has been house-hunting near the Wernersville house. He presently lives in a two-bedroom apartment on Manhattan's Upper West Side that rents for $5000 a month.
In February, cable network TLC reached a settlement with Gosselin in a breach-of-contract lawsuit. He remains under contract with the network, but is forbidden from making or profiting from unauthorized public appearances.
With this latest legal action, Jon "hopes this will move TLC to pay him or at least give him permission to go out and work...and be able to afford his new home." the source explains.
Update: Kate Gosselin's attorney Mark Momijan told RadarOnline, "we haven't received any formal filing yet but I can’t imagine anything farther from the truth. Kate is a devoted mother. Her concern for the welfare of her kids is so prominent that any allegations like this report are reckless and so far from the mark, it's offensive."
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