Okay, I wasn't going to do this. But all the reports coming out about the book are so shocking, I've caved.
I expect this to be controversial, but I've always been honest with my readers. Confession: I've preordered the book from Amazon. I gave $12.59 to Kate and contributed $12.59 to the exploitation of the orphans. But my purpose is intended to serve a greater good. I intend to review the book and tell you what the Kart says, so that no one else need buy the book to see for themselves. But I urge everyone else not to buy it. Do as I say, not as I do.
This is a Gosselin blog, has quickly snowballed into something bigger than I could have imagined thanks to all you wonderful people, and the book is big Gosselin news. I think the Blog should review the book.
(By the way, I attempted to obtain a free press copy from the publisher for purposes of reviewing it, but my requests were ignored by them. Not even turned down, just flat out ignored.)
Read excerpt. ~ Kate complains how hard 8 kids have made her life and claims she hates the attention.
Hear Kate read an excerpt. ~ Kate makes fun of how the kids talk and goes on in tedious boring detail about the variety of words they have "butchered"
334 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 334 of 334 Newer› Newest»Of course I do. But it was only to try to force TLC to let him out of his contract it wasn't for the kids. Than to get out of the lawsuit with TLC he told them they could film the kids. Now he wants to be filmed with the kids again. Is that so hard for you to see.
Thank-you Mommyinca!
Admin-I emailes you the PDF
We're not allowed to speculate on Kate's motives, you cannot speculate on Jon's motives. Fact: He took the kids off the tube. Fact: the kids have not been back on the tube.
Rumors: Jon wants the kids back on TV. Source: TMZ (please) Until it happens, pure speculation.
Dee3, I didn't see any child on the potty with the door closed and the light off.
I saw a child on the laundry room floor on a comforter so he could be close to his mom while she was cooking. And she could keep an eye on him.
Do you really think you know everything that went on in that household?
ms. anonymous,
We do not really know Jon's feelings about filming the children. Have we heard Jon say go ahead and film the children or read a quote from him? No.
Do we know for a fact Jon stopped filming the children to get out of his contract? No, it's all supposition.
I'm going to wait to judge him about letting the children be filmed - when there is proof, and right now - there isn't. I'm not saying I don't have an opinion or guess as to why Jon stopped filming, but I wasn't talking about an opinion, I was stating something that we've all seen and heard on tv - 2 different things.
I have never commented on Kate's appearance or what she wears, etc. And when I've not approved of what Jon's done, I've said so. And when I heard information that hinted that he might allow the children to be on TV again, I was not happy about that and said as much.
But I have no idea what happened during the contract negotiations between Jon and an entire corporation and what he had to agree to. However, 8 yearly appearances is far better than shooting new episodes every single week. I would prefer to see them not have to be on TV at all...until they are legally of age to give full consent for this.
If I learn that Jon agreed to this without any sort of contractual pressure, I will not be happy with his behavior either. I call it like I see it....not like I want to see it.
Adimin, doesn't all those hit's bring you money made off the back's of the Gosselin children.
"Do you really think you know everything that went on in that household?"
Of course I don't think that. Unfortunately though, I suspect that much of what we did NOT see wasn't pleasant either.
When my children were sick and wanted to be near me, I put them on the closest couch...with the lights ON. I never put my children on the floor with the lights out when they were sick. I never put my child on the floor in the dark when they were not sick.
If you think that's okay, then fine. But I don't...and I would NEVER do that to any child. Sorry.
FACT.
If Jon did not say the kids could be filmed could TLC be filming again?
Did TLC say they were using new footage? IDK the details. Do you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgP6GcveNOo&feature=related
This is Jon on Larry King Live with obnoxious Heller when they discussed the timing and sequence of events when Jon pulled the kids off the show. Who did what when. It's a TLC said/Jon said situation.
I emailed Zondervan and told them they should be embarrassed enough to take down their site. I said Kate used you too, just like she uses everyone.
zondervan@mailnj.custhelp.com
Dee3, I didn't see any child on the potty with the door closed and the light off.
Well, sheeple, I guess you were not a regular viewer of the show. One of the episodes in which Kate was attempting to potty-train the boys, she left Colin on the potty, told him he could not get up until he went potty, and then Kate proceeded to turn the light off and shut the door.
I had a huge laugh about putting on the laundry floor to be near Kate while she was in the kitchen - why not lay him on the kitchen floor where she could keep a direct eye on him?
What is your next fable?
anonymous at 3:02. I recall a show where she was potty training the boys and she put one on a potty chair IN A DARK BATHROOM and left him there.
We were not privy to the behind-closed-doors negotiations between Jon and the corporation (TLC). Therefore, unable to know what Jon had to agree to in order to reach a settlement...so that TLC's lawsuit against him (for contract breach) did not so impoverish him that he'd be unable to pay any child support to his own children.
If and when those proceedings are ever revealed, then we may be able to figure out how and why TLC is now apparently able to film the children again for several yearly specials.
Is it possible that Anonymous watched the sanitized episodes - after TLC removed the offensive scenes?
Youtube clip of Collin on the potty in the dark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzpIPMOrDMg
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The clip of the potty session with Collin starts about the 7 min 30 sec. mark
"why not lay him on the kitchen floor where she could keep a direct eye on him?"
Because it's easier to use your x-ray vision to peer through a door and the dark.
anonymous at 3:02. I recall a show where she was potty training the boys and she put one on a potty chair IN A DARK BATHROOM and left him there.
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Well, there was the camera crew with him so I guess he wasn't alone...
No, I would not have put my child in the dark. I didn't care to watch Kate belittle Jon on the couch either, for whatever reason.
I cringed more than a few times watching Kate.
She has admitted to doing things that she wishes she could take back.
Now she is just trying to move on.
It will never be her her first priority to have anyone's approval.
The only logical reason for tlc to return to Kate plus 8 is it will tie up Jon into the contract SO he cannot speak, do media appearances without TLC's permission. It is sick, exploitive & unconsciousable. I
Also, Kate is getting revenge. It is all hers now. She will have 8 children with many many problems to overcome as adults because of the lifestyle she chose to live. If she doesn't want it all out there I suggest she shut her big mouth then.
I think Kate is proud & reveling in the fact that she throws away anyone & anything that stands in her way. She is clearly doing this to her children just they have no voice, no contract, no say....just Mommie Dearest leading the way.
~irene~
http://www.zondervan.com/media/samples/pdf/0310318963_samptxt.pdf
Anonymous said...
No, I would not have put my child in the dark. I didn't care to watch Kate belittle Jon on the couch either, for whatever reason.
I cringed more than a few times watching Kate.
She has admitted to doing things that she wishes she could take back.
Now she is just trying to move on.
It will never be her her first priority to have anyone's approval.
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Do you consider Kate's belittling a form of spousal abuse? And if not, why not?
I guess it was like that Vaseline comment you made about the kids Irene. And not one mother told you how out of line that was. Not one Shame on you Irene.
Irene said the kids were ****** and they didn't even use vaseline. You are horrible & ugly.
Thanks Denise,
The link doesn't work because Zondervan's site is still down, but hopefully we can read it tomorrow.
Irene said
The only logical reason for tlc to return to Kate plus 8 is it will tie up Jon into the contract SO he cannot speak, do media appearances without TLC's permission. It is sick, exploitive & unconsciousable.
Sorry Irene but that comment doesn't even make sense.
Plus you have no idea how her children will turn out.
Oh my, and we're supposed to talk nice about everything Kate's done?
bbsak, it works for me!!!
Anonymous,
No name calling please. The rules for posting are in the right side-bar.
But I would have to say, children being raped, which happens all the time, IS horrible and ugly. I will absolutely agree with that.
Thanks Denise. It didn't work the 1st couple of times, but I finally got it and didn't have a chance to tell you. TY!
"No, I would not have put my child in the dark. I didn't care to watch Kate belittle Jon on the couch either, for whatever reason.
I cringed more than a few times watching Kate.
She has admitted to doing things that she wishes she could take back.
Now she is just trying to move on."
I want to thank you anonymous. That is very decent of you to stipulate to that....and I appreciate it.
Now, I do know that Kate has admitted to doing these things and saying she wishes she could take it back.
But then I see her behaving in a similar fashion to Tony Dovolani and read that she wanted to have him fired...a man with a wife and 2 children of his own he needs to support.
I appreciate that she admits to things from the past but changing her behavior would go a lot farther in convincing me that she truly regrets it.
Irene,
I understood what you meant and it makes complete sense especially given TLC's past history w/Jon.
The only logical reason for tlc to return to Kate plus 8 is it will tie up Jon into the contract SO he cannot speak, do media appearances without TLC's permission.
Isn't all the things written about Tony and her from un-named sources. Its just the tabloids saying that and and they get hits for saying it. There is no truth to it. They started that crap before Kate was even with the rest of the cast.
Yes and I suppose Tony ripping off his mic and walking out on her when he's never ever done that to any other partner was all just conjured up drama.
Jupiter- You ask how Zonderfake can determine if someone's values and ethics line up with the high minded mission that they spout. Easily. Look at her behavior- and her own words! There is a magnitude to the umpteenth degree that shouts loudly who Kart IS, IMO. I do hold them to a higher standard because they have advertised that they are.
MK + Lauren - Yes the habitual and compulsive lying is something I can not abide or ignore.
PamelaJaye - You succinctly expressed my visceral disappointment towards Zonderfake with perfect pitch and I thank-you. I have always liked you a lot because of your duck love!
Bearswife - Welcome + keep posting. Glad to know that their site crashed last night!
ADMIN - My guessestimate is waaayyy more than 20 lurkers!
To the religious zealots and Kart lovers who are visiting here today - A few questions for you all--
1)Why is it that none of you have a name and are alwys ANNONYMOUS yet when you return to your home base you use your names?
2)It is good to see that you do have some manners but I do wonder why your manners are not extended to visitors to your blog of comfort? Why is it that any visitor receives name calling and extremely mean spirited and foul language responses?
3)Why do you return to your home base and claim that this ADMIN is not a lawyer, is a liar, is not a journalist and on and on and on? The prejudice and rudeness is palpable.
4)Why does the daily conversation of bloggers on your site ALWAYS involve name calling and insults of posters here and other sites too, and this ADMIN? You have been defaming this ADMIN for more than 3 months. You do not see this vile behavior on the sites that I post on. Jus Asking...
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Several of the contestants had spats that week. Kate and Tony's was no worse than the others.
Tabloid rumor that Kate tried to get Tony fired. No named sources.
I saw all the couples having drama. Didn't you?
And if I was trying to teach someone how to do something and they repeated I can't do this it would piss me off too.
Which other dancer said "I quit" and left?
Another question: Why are tabloid rumors to be believed when they are about Jon, but discounted when they are negative about Kate?
What other couples had drama? Visual proof, please.
No tabloid about Jon. Its only what his lawyer says I believe and named sources
What named sources?
Paula go back and watch the show.
Two other couples had a disagreement. I don't know their names. One of the other stars even walked out and slammed the door.
If you go back and watch it you will see it.
LOL - I knew you could not provide proof. No, I want you to provide proof of your assertions. It's not up to me to proof what you think you believe.
Go watch the show the proof is there. What am I suppose to do cue up a clip for you?
You are the one who doesn't believe it. Go watch and see for yourself.
Yes, you are supposed to "cue up" a clip for me. You were the one who claimed that other couples were having issues like Tony and Kate. So, back up your assertions.
I don't care that other dancers may have walked out. Other dancers are hot heads and do that all the time.
The point is Tony has NEVER walked out on any other woman. He's never even lost his temper. He's been paired with 10-odd diva celebrities. Not once did he walk out. Then he gets Kate, and on WEEK TWO is ripping off his mic and RUNNING out .... LOL.
Ok Paula...obviously you didn't watch the show or you would have seen it.
I don't have to prove anything to you. Everyone who watched the show saw it.
From Maks' Blog
"Jake and Kate are in a similar boat. I want to go on record and say I admire Tony — not just because he's my friend. I've spoken to Kate, and I don't think she gets the point of this thing yet. The pain on her face says it all, which is unfortunate. The show is about finding a way to come out, enjoy yourself and have fun. Tony is trying to relay the message while responsibly getting the routine done. He has a plan, and she needs to focus and listen to him. The idea of a coach and a student is deeply rooted in us. We were taught to respect our teachers, so as teachers, we expect to be respected by our students. Every student is different, so we must teach differently, but we're always respectful. Kate needs to trust him. However lifeless that paso was, he had her ready with the routine. I hope she improves and I think she can if she realizes she has an opportunity that she won't have again. It's a chance for her to focus on something other than personal drama.
Dancing is not super complicated. If you look up the word, dancing is not walking in weird patterns to music. Dancing, even in the stone ages, is a form of expression. It may have even been the first language before languages were born. People will gesture and get their feelings across with body movements. It's beautiful, free and fun."
That's the problem. You are so blinded by hate for Kate you refuse to see that what happened with her and Tony happens with lots of the contestants....LOL
LOL - typical sheeple. Throw out accusations and then can't back them up, so it becomes my issue. Nope, sorry.
Oh, and guess what? I have not watched the first episode of DWTS, but I have enjoyed the heck of the multiple times I have viewed Jimmy Fallon's rendetion.
Anyway, back to the book. Do you think Sarah Palin is aware that Kate wants to sell more books than Sarah? Or that Kate finds Sarah's book boring?
What happened with Kate and Tony has not happened with lots contestants.
Yep Paula it is your issue. You refuse to seek the truth. Your talking about a show you didn't even bother to watch. The only way I can back it up is for you to watch it.
By the way I read the first part of the book and fail to see anything wrong with it.
I guess you're going to criticize it too without reading it.
Kate is not a dancer that's for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if she never gets it.
If she didn't have such a huge fan base she would have been the first to go.
But she does have fans.
How about Kate wanting to insure that the childrens' guardians made sure that "family visits were a priority". She seems to avoid them totally.
If you would provide me with the truth, I might be able to see it.
No, I don't plan on spending my hard earned money on Kate's book. I'll spend it on my children. However, I can critize the excerpts that have already been put out for public consumption and that you see nothing wrong with a mother putting her chidren's most intimate, sometimes painfulo moments out for all to read, well there is nothing more to be said to you.
I thought Jimmy Fallon's rendetion of Kate dancing was funny. I bet Kate thought it was funny too.
Neither Jon or Kate are good parents, IMO.
It's simply a matter of chhosing the lesser of two evils.
That's why I'd like to see Jon get custody.
Paula I can't make you watch the show. You can either watch it or not.
I read the actual text not some excerpts that may or may not have been taken out of context.
There were not intimate disclosures in what I have read so far.
Kate sucks as a dancer. Anyone with eyes can see that. Yes it is her fans that have kept her there. She obviously has some.
I agree neither Jon or Kate are the greatest parents. However I don't think Jon happens to be the lesser of two evils.
I'd much rather see Jon with the kids than Khate.
He actually spends time with them and lets them be kids.
That is certainly your right. But there is more to being a parent than just letting kids be kids.
We don't actually know how much time either one of them spends with the children.
Jon seems to be the outdoorsy kind. I didn't do a whole lot of things with my kids outside but doesn't mean I didn't spend time with them or wasn't a good parent.
Yes, poor Tony he had no clue what kind of fishbowl he was walking into. Thank gosh he isn't like Kate is that is for sure.
Yes, thanks bbsak, it does make sense to tie Jon up in that contract of Kate plus 8. TLC sure wouldn't want Jon interviewed or to write a book in which the truth came to light now would they?
I see the floggers run like a pack of wolves & have yet to bring substance anywhere they float. Thanks for visiting Z on TV & 15 Minutes Gosselin style floggers. I would rather be on this side speaking against what I see as the worst case of legal child neglect than be a follower and follow the botox just because.
I will say it for the next 13 years. Children are not a commodity to be sold to the highest bidder. (Wonder who has done that?)
Irene
Has Z produced any proof about the supposed flog.
Nope not a peep I guess he was wrong AGAIN
The sheeple are really to be pitied. It's sad that people, especially women, can condone and even try and emulate Kate Gosselin behavior.
By the way I read the first part of the book and fail to see anything wrong with it.
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You see nothing wrong with a book telling the world how those damn kids make her life so difficult? That's what I read. If I was one of her precious blessings I'd be crying my eyes out.
Oh, let's film that for an episode. Sad, humiliated kids for YOUR entertainment.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but that's not how I interpreted what I read. I didn't read anything that said those damn kids make her life difficult.
I read that she was concerned with their safety and well being. I read that when you have a large family it's not as easy as with one or two children.
Nope...nothing about any damn kids.
I base my opinions on what I see and what I read (and I evaluate reading material individually on its merits) and nothing yet has convinced me to alter my opinion.
I don't go to fan sites and try to convince them to see it my way and any fan comments I read are in response to various articles I read on the internet. I have no interest in changing anyone's mind...they can develop their own opinions, just like I have.
And, in fact, I do not hate Kate...because she cannot be held 100% responsible due to having NPD, which causes her to have little if any insight into her own behavior. But I DO hold TLC accountable...for they have allowed a person with NPD to run amok just to make money off of her and the devastation that will be wreaked on her family, esp. her children. If only Kate was involved and there were no children, it would be of little consequence to me.
And I don't have to prove that my opinion is right or wrong. The future will indicate that and I feel fairly confident about what the future will look like. I didn't just decide to jump on this wagon one day. I've watched this woman for years and have tried to be as objective as possible. And nothing yet has caused me to alter my opinion.
She sure solved her problem about worrying about nighttime fires, didn't she?
If she's not there the nannies will be responsible. She might break a nail trying to saved a child. Kate first.
"I longed for the simplicity of an ordinary-sized household"
"You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but that's not how I interpreted what I read. I didn't read anything that said those damn kids make her life difficult.
I read that she was concerned with their safety and well being. I read that when you have a large family it's not as easy as with one or two children."
Listen, people perceive things differently. When photographers caught Kate spanking her daughter in the driveway, there were many who felt it's perfectly fine to hit your children. I happen to believe it's NOT okay to hit your children. In fact, I've never hit anyone. My personal beliefs affect how I perceive things.
This particular book is titled "I just want you to know". So what is in the first 20 pages that she "wants" them to know? If I wrote a book to my children about "what I wanted them to know" it would be about how wonderful they are and how much I love them. Not that there's anything wrong with writing about how difficult it was to raise your children....but it's not exactly what I'd be writing in a book TO my children called "I just want you to know".
That might be something I'd discuss with other mothers privately where my children couldn't hear or see it....not the first thing I'd be wanting to tell my children. And if I wanted to tell the world what I wanted my children to know...it would definitely NOT be how difficult it was to raise them.
I wanted to wait until I read the book myself to form an opinion. I've read the first 20 pages and I strongly concur with blog and media reviews. It's worse than I imagined and I haven't even seen the exploitative chapters yet. I don't like to name call. It's hard not to. Really hard.
"I longed for the simplicity of an ordinary-sized household"
You want to tell this to your therapist in private? That at times you'd wish you hadn't have so many kids? FINE.
But this is what you WANT your kids to know? In a book written TO your children called "I just want you to know"? REALLY? I mean, REALLY?
(and I'm not directing this to Denise. Thanks for posting that line, Denise.:) An excellent example of what should NOT be in THIS book.)
Denise said...
"I longed for the simplicity of an ordinary-sized household"
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Does the next sentence say "But I realized I couldn't make a fortune off of just twins, and I tricked the 2nd fertility dr and Jon into 'just one more'"?
What. The. F.? Two kids is 'ordinary' isn't it? Why in the hell would she even put THAT in print when we all know she had this plan from when she was a teenager?
Holy cow, my favorite blog has been invaded by "Anonymous" Kate worshippers. Or, perhaps it's only a few (paid) defenders of the Supermom of the year? It's very interesting how they all come out to defend their patron saint of fake mothering just as her latest crapola book is on the verge of release. Interesting, very interesting.
Admin - you do a more than terrific job here and I thank you for a great site and forum. However, I hope you don't mind if I make a little suggestion just so we don't have to slog through all these "Anonymous," comments. If they really to want to engage in fair and honest discourse here, can we ask them to please identify their posts with a name, (any type of screen name, just be consistent please), so we know who we're referring to in case we feel the urge to even bother replying.
I'm also wondering if you have a an IP tracker on here Admin, or if you see the IP's as they post. I used to have a blog (not about Khate) and it was interesting and funny to see the scams people pulled (like posting in a certain name, then posting a reply in another name to back up the first person, but ha ha, they were both from the same IP, so it's the same dumbass person posting!)
Oh, wait, you did mention the 4,000 hits (wow!), so I guess you do have a Sitemeter account (and I assume you chose the option of not showing the little sitemeter able on the blog?) Have you checked it to see if there are a lot of posters from the same IP? Any from the TLC area, where is that again, Maryland? But, I think maybe you're getting too many hits to even keep track anymore!
You also might want to try FeedJit where you can get a free little widget for you blog and everyone can see where people are coming from. It shows everyone on the blog who arrived on the blog, from what link (if any) and what their location is.
Dee - Yay, you're posting with your name now! I always appreciated that you at least signed your name to the end of your posts so we knew who it was. Irene does that as well.
bbsak - thanks for showing Dee that! Now, we need to teach Irene! ;)
To all the Anons - please pick a screen name and use it. I'm not going to bother replying to any "Anonymous" posts. In fact, I scroll right past your posts without even reading them. It sure saves a lot of time!
My fellow bloggers - I respectfully urge that you consider doing the same. Just scroll right past the "Anonymous" comments (unless a name is signed at the end, like Irene does on her comments). Why even try to argue or converse with someone who doesn't even bother to make a screen name so you know if you're responding to Anon 1, Anon 2, Anon 3, or whatever? I've never commented on the Khate fan blogs, but if I ever feel the urge to, I will use the same screen name that I use here, at Z's, at Jibber Jabbers, and at GWoP.
I once had a friend who happened to be adopted as a baby into a family of 6 kids and she told me when her mom (who was quite loving) got stressed, she would sit down and write all the reasons she was at her wits end; all those little things about the kids and her day that pile up into one big thing.
The difference here is that as soon as she wrote the words down she shredded the paper so none of her kids would accidentally run across those thoughts. The point being, it's not so awful to feel burdened some of the time. We all do. But some feelings should be kept to yourself, especially when it concerns your children.
I don't have a problem with Kate telling her kids "you were a difficult baby" or "we never planned to have a big family" (even though I think the latter is a lie..that's my opinion).
I DO have a problem with her writing it in a book and selling it to millions of people.
I think that reality television took over like a virus and in the beginning maybe Jon and Kate didn't realize that their choice to film their kids potty training would be viewed by MILLIONS of people and immortalized in DVD form for years to come.
However, as the show grew popularity and their "fans" started becoming a little too "aggressive" (I believe that was the word Kate used), I fault them for NOT seeing the light and pulling the plug. Their family tried to warn them but they still went after the dangling carrot laced with crack (fame and fortune) at their children's privacy expense
Nobody likes a narcissist~ yes I have a google account. I stopped using it for awhile but I will get back to it.
I can't wait to hear Admininistrators take on the book. I am gonna go to the library and reserve it so I don't have to waste 12.95 on it. I wonder how the PR blitz for this book is gonna pan out. It is ashame it is all at the expense of the children. That is the sick side of this.
Can you imagine going to school & having people pick and mock something your mom said about you. Or hey I saw your mommy lift her skirt up on a song she walked to?
Kate wants the attention and the money but her PR firms are doing overtime trying to squash the opposition. Oh well, what are they gonna do? Track down every person who has an opinion that doesn't gel with there's?
Have a great night everyone. Brace for the spin~o~rama coming soon.
~irene~
Paula, it is hard to provide you with the proof you seek unless you watch the show. You can view episodes at http://abc.go.com/shows/dancing-with-the-stars
"A lot of people are having arguments with their partner," Nash said. "I'm so grateful we're not in that place." http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/dwts-niecy-nash-i-love-shaking-all-my-jiggly-2010303
Jake and partner Chelsie Hightower, like some of the other couples whose arguments were televised on “meltdown Monday,” had a little tiff in rehearsal but quickly worked it out. “I’m the type of person, I’m going to drag it out of you,” Chelsie said. “When we have a quarrel, it just means we learn more about each other.” http://www.okmagazine.com/2010/03/ok-exclusive-dwts-drama-%E2%80%94-kate-gosselin-admits-we-werent-communicating-well/
She’s all business in rehearsal, and Aiden tells her to be more patient with him or he’ll leave. She walks out, and he follows and wisely puts it to her this way, “You hurt my feelings”. She says she feels bad but she wants the routine to look good. http://tv.insidepulse.com/2010/03/30/dancing-with-the-stars-episode-10-4-review/
Nicole & Derek also had a little tiff one week, but I don't really have time to look for it now. I have a sneaking suspicion that you will not believe any of this anyway and think/know that only Kate and Tony have arguments. Fact is, they all do at some point and Tony is not the only one to have walked out. Aiden and Edyta's disagreement ended with her walking out, although she didn't say she quit!
No one has answered me question yet .... when has Tony ever walked out on any other of his long list of diva partners???? Crickets.
You won't get an answer. The sheeple are constantly asked on several blogs to prove their assertion that Kate is a good mother. They can't so they never do. They just ignore the question and try to steer the conversation away from the topic at hand.
itsaboutthekids said...
(snipped portions from itaboutthekid's 11:16 am post):
Here are the passages that were quoted for all eight kids.
Mady - "Our family has changed. I have been doing my best to support you during rough times."
Hannah - Jon and Kate's divorce has "caused pain and doubt in you," Kate writes to Hannah. "It has shaken you."
Alexis - The split has been "confusing and quite upsetting to you," Kate writes to daughter Alexis.
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>>>> SO, I (Khate) have decided that after such a tumultuous year with the divorce, that about 2 months after the divorce is finalized, I'm going to hit the road, commuting back and forth to L.A. to be on some dumbass television show for $200,000 (less taxes, agent's cuts, attorney's fees, etc.) even though I have a book deal and $20,000 month in child support and $100,000 a month from TLC.
No, I won't be staying home to help you all adjust and cope with the divorce, to get everyone settled into our new lives and to try to establish a normal routine for all of us with regular periods of time that you will all be able to spend with me and with your father. I'll be in L.A. for a couple of weeks before the season starts, and then I'll spend a couple of months going back and forth and being here about 2 and a half to three and a half days a week. Plus, when I am here, I'll be too busy or tired to do much of anything with you (except hit the driveway for a few minutes when TLC calls the papps for us), too tired to take you to the bus or pick you up, but you'll all be so used to the nannies anyway. By the way, if there's ever a fire when I'm not here, just scream for one of the nannies. Hopefully, you'll be able to remember which one is on assignment at the konpound that evening.
Oh, and I Just Want You To Know that after a couple of months of the DWTS gig, I have to travel around some more to pimp my new book. Uugh, I just hate all those talk shows wanting to talk about me, me, me, and I so hate being away from you and staying in nice hotels, eating at fancy celebrity ridden restaurants. Oh, how I wish I could just stay home and cook from scratch for you all every day. And, please don't worry what you might hear about my book at school, just remember... I did it all for YOU, all EIGHT of you.
Shortly after that, yippee, it will be summer vacation. Good news, the "family" will be back!! You know, those guys with cameras, lights, and mikes. C'mon, you like them following you around all day! Plus, it's the only way you will ever get to see the Statue of Liberty, you know! Or, have a beach vacation! So, just put up with it and try to cooperate with the filming schedule.
Oh yeah, one more thing - I'm doing yet another show, so I will be gone for a few days at a time traveling to visit other families, check out their homes and lives, and tell them what I, Queen Khate, Supermom of the Century, think they should do differently. 'Cause, you know, having EIGHT kids makes me a wonderful mother, right?....Right?......Kids?????
Administrator....since I have not watched all the seasons (only a few), I will have to take your word for it. I prefer to not get that petty. This argument, after all, is supposed to be about the kids, not Kate's dancing skills, or lack of, or who walked out on who.
I thought name calling wasn't allowed on here? If sheeple is ok then is creeple ok, too?
Admin ~
Well since you have already admitted that you bit the bullet and purchased the book, please note I would be interested in what Kate wrote to Mady.
Since Kate has not been kind to this child on camera on several ocassions, I fear what Kate may have actually put in writing.
So once you receive the book in the mail, thank you in advance for reviewing the book for all of us who refuse to donate to the mommy monster.
Irene - I wasn't talking about a Google account. When you click on "Select a Profile" drop down menu, instead of clicking on "Anonymous", click on "Name/URL" (right above Anonymous). Then, type "Irene" into the box, (skip the URL part), click on "Continue" and go on to post (or preview) your comment!
Like you seen to hope and pray the children will be damaged and I just don't get it......
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Thanks for finally admitting that you don't get it. NONE of us hope and pray the children will be damaged. Unfortunately, we already see that they ARE damaged.
The fans are the haters. They hate the children.Those of us that care about the children hope to never see them on TV again.
You just want your entertainment no matter how detrimental to 8 lives. You feel you have a right to watch them develop and grow. YOU DON'T. They are not your kids.
ToAnonymous said.....You just want your entertainment no matter how detrimental to 8 lives. You feel you have a right to watch them develop and grow. YOU DON'T. They are not your kids.
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I don't feel I have a right to watch them on TV (or anywhere), say how they are raised (or not raised) or even say whether they are on TV or not, or eat candy or not, etc. As you said THEY ARE NOT MY KIDS. Nor are they yours!
PS...I certainly don't hate those children. Actually, I don't hate anybody!
My Hat is off to Just Wondering. She put it all together and said what most of you will not even dare to think.
Jon, Kate, and TLC are all in this whole thing together.
You have all been played.
Anonymous said...
My Hat is off to Just Wondering. She put it all together and said what most of you will not even dare to think.
Jon, Kate, and TLC are all in this whole thing together.
You have all been played.
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Do you want us to believe this just because you and jw said it? Or do you have something concrete to back it up? And what do you mean by "whole thing"?
Anonymous,
Do you really think I'd be surprised by that? Disgusted maybe, but not surprised. J and K were both scammers for love offerings and ratings. The ONLY thing that would surprise me is if they both gave up their "celebrity" and raised their children in private. The ONLY ones I know aren't in on anything are their kids. Those poor kids.
I still hope Jon finds his decency deep within himself that I feel he has because he shows love for his kids, or at least affection, and one day does the right thing for them.
I didn't see the quote myself and it wasn't exactly "quoted" but the "Vaseline" comment did sound disturbing. I didn't appreciate that at all. Even just as a figurative saying it was just disturbing.
ms.anonymous said... THEY ARE NOT MY KIDS. Nor are they yours...
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No, they aren't ours. But in the earlier episodes one of Kate's reasons for the show was, she wanted to share her children with the world because she knew people were curious about them and how the family functions with 8 kids and 2 sets of multiples. I'm paraphrasing but that was the gist of it.
She offered her children up to us and allowed them into our homes each week so we could watch literally everything in their world. Why? Why is it okay for anyone to know this? Why is it okay for children to be treated this way? THEY ARE CHILDREN, NOT CHATTEL.
itsaboutthekids said... Why is it okay for children to be treated this way? THEY ARE CHILDREN, NOT CHATTEL.
April 11, 2010 8:15 PM
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Right or wrong, they are her children to raise how she sees fit. You or I may not agree with how she chooses to raise them, but that doesn't give us the right to tell her or Jon how they should or shouldn't raise them. I'm sure that there were people we all crossed paths with in our life that did things while raising their children that we disagreed with. Those same people probably disagreed with some things we did. It would have been a very cold day in h*ll when someone told me how to raise my child (other than solicited advice from a close friend, family member or trusted professional)!
For anyone who is ok with the content of Kate's new book and the content of the J&K plus 8 show, I ask you this:
Would it be equally ok for the children when they are adults to film their struggles taking care of their incontinent parents instead of putting them in a nursing home? The kids could use the guise of "wanting to provide" for them. It could include episodes of Collin putting Kate on the laundry room floor because she is sick and he is trying to make dinner.
How about an episode of Collin screaming at Kate for getting gum stuck in her dentures and he has to clean it out? He can threaten to throw them in the trash because he just doesn't have time to get gum out of 8 fake teeth!!!
Oh but in the end of every episode the kids could say that ALL the sacrifices they make for their parents are worth it!
ms.anonymous,
We will have to disagree, but I am curious about one thing. If a vote was taken on whether children should be allowed to be filmed on reality TV programs to the degree and extent that the Gosselin children have been, how would you vote?
itsaboutthekids, I, too, will agree to disagree! I would have to say I would pass on the vote. I just don't feel it is my place to say whether they should or not. I think it is up to their parents.
Ms.Anonymous- I respect your opinion on parents being able to raise their children the way they see fit. I would never want someone telling me I couldn't homeschool my children. I also wouldn't want someone nitpicking decisions I made that involved my children.
If Jon and Kate want their children on TV, that IS their right. However, I think there needs to be laws in place to protect their privacy and the amount of time they work.
Years ago, child labor laws were put into place to protect children. This obviously was before reality television. I think the laws for children "working" in reality tv are nearly non existent.
I disagree with Jon and Kate filming what they have chosen to film. I also think it should be criminal for her to write about her children in the manner she did (exposing their insecurities and challenges). This seems like emotional abuse to me.
itsaboutthekids said...
Youtube clip of Collin on the potty in the dark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzpIPMOrDMg
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Yikes! Thanks for posting that. I think. As I've said before, I only began paying attention to J&K+8 about a year ago because of all the media hoopla about them. I tuned into last year's shows, and I also caught 2 or 3 repeats of older episodes. So, I haven't even seen most of the episodes, but I have read about a few of the more infamous moments around the blogs.
I can't even believe they allowed ANY filming of any potty training! That is just not decent at all! As a mother, I am just horrified. I have a son about the same age as Mady and Cara and we've raised him to respect his privacy and those of others. It used to crack me up when he was potty training because he would insist on shutting the door (on ME, his mother! and my husband/his dad also). He kind of still needed help, if you know what I mean, but he would insist on shutting the door and he'd tell me "Privacy!" LOL. Wow, I can't even imagine having strangers in the house filming those moments, and then airing them on national tv, and having them on YouTube and the internet forever. That just sucks for the kids! And oh my, I can't even imagine how embarrassed he would be at this age if he had those clips of him as a toddler being potty trained on the internet. Boy, he would be not only embarrassed, but I think he'd be mad as hell at me and I'd say he would have every right to be. But, then again, I'm a mother who immediately realized and told myself from the very, very beginning that my child is his own person, not MY possession. (As itsaboutthekids said above - THEY ARE CHILDREN, NOT CHATTEL.)
I won't even get into Khate's demeanor during the potty training, and WTF was the light turned off for? Odd! Plus, I'm one of those moms that despises potty seats and thinks they're weird. Sorry, but it's weird to put your kid on a little plastic chair (on a rug in a bedroom, or in another room, no less). I don't know, it's not that hard, get a freaking step stool, stick one of those padded potty seats on the toilet so they don't fall in and teach them to go on the toilet. We're teaching human beings, future adults, not dogs!
mommyinca said...
Ms.Anonymous- I respect your opinion on parents being able to raise their children the way they see fit. I would never want someone telling me I couldn't homeschool my children. I also wouldn't want someone nitpicking decisions I made that involved my children.
If Jon and Kate want their children on TV, that IS their right. However, I think there needs to be laws in place to protect their privacy and the amount of time they work.
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mommyinca,
I absolutely agree that new laws need to be put in place for children on reality programming. If parents and TV networks cannot self-govern in the best interest of the children then laws are needed to do just that.
On the potty training/privacy issue, I just have to say, the potty in the dark clip is not even the worst one. The never before seen footage episode where they took the kids to the beach is the worst. They stood the little girls up in the way back of the van to put their suits on, in full view of everyone at the beach that day, and filming the whole time. I have seen this footage in a repeating montage? on youtube set to music. This creeps ME out to no end, and the parents are to blame.
How will these kids feel about this when they are teenagers??? How would you feel?
On the book, I read the sample when it was up yesterday and I have to say, Kate is disturbed. Seriously disturbed. After long long talks with Jon about the dangers of fire and their ability to get the kids out (never mind the FACT that they had round the clock help with the babies so it is not like they were alone with 6 2 month olds...) but the best option she can come up with is to put them all in a blanket and have Jon throw it over his shoulder???? So they can get out of the burning home and only have some broken bones and bruses???? This is the plan??? She can't come up with say, a sled, or a wagon, or keeping the stroller in the nursery??? Or, Cara and Mady could each take one, and that leaves two for both Jon and Kate, you could carry them out!!!!! I mean???? What kind of mom is that? and what does that show us about her decision making processes????!!!
MK,
Are you serious? That was her 'escape' plan? Why would she even think that this was book worthy info? What's with her fire phobia? I know it's good to be prepared, but seriously, is she dwelling on this for a specific reason? I wonder if she had, um, 'unhealthy thoughts' of burning down the house when it all got to be too much.
It's all too bizarre.
Checked with Barnes and Noble. Kates book is 208 printed pages.
The 500 amount was thrown out on the internet and took on a life of its own.
From Amazon:
#1,197 in book presales
#3 in books 'religious, spirituality'
#68 in books 'non-ficition, social sciences,sociology'
Katesucks...
Yep, that's what she writes in the book anyway. I think the point she was trying to get across was that they have more babies then hands and it makes dealing with an emergency so much more difficult. I'd give her that, but I really don't believe that she has ever been alone with those kids. Ever. And when they were little and unable to walk they had tons of helpers so that would not be an issue, and its not like Cara and Maddy could not help later...why you would print something like that and sell it to the public I have no idea! She actually writes that she realized that it was not the best idea because the babies would all crash and bump into each other, and possibly break a bone, but they would be out of the house at least.
ms.anonymous said... "Right or wrong, they are her children to raise how she sees fit. You or I may not agree with how she chooses to raise them, but that doesn't give us the right to tell her or Jon how they should or shouldn't raise them."
If you were to see a bruised/battered child would you look the other way because it's their parent's right to raise them as such?
The Gosselin children may not have visible bruises but I highly suspect they are the victims of emotional & psychological abuse. Look at how stressed their life has made both Jon & Kate, if it can affect them as adults who understand what's going on, what is it doing to the children?
Add onto that Kate's narcissitic behaviour, demeaning comments towards their father, both Jon & Kate's insulting comments towards them ON TV, the teasing school mates, hovering paparazzi, absentee parents and no supporting extended family (thanks to Kate) and you've got a multitude of situations no child should have to deal with especially at such a young age.
I'm sorry but I cannot stand by and do nothing when I see a child (or 8) in distress. Unfortunately in this case there's little that can be done as no laws have been broken, but we can make our voices heard and hope that it leads to changes in legislation to protect any other children from going through the same situation.
At the very least our voices are helping to bring Kate's lies to light. The less marketable she is the less likely she'll be able to sell her children's privacy.
Irene,
I understood what you meant and it makes complete sense especially given TLC's past history w/Jon.
The only logical reason for tlc to return to Kate plus 8 is it will tie up Jon into the contract SO he cannot speak, do media appearances without TLC's permission.
No tabloid about Jon. Its only what his lawyer says I believe and named sources
Oh my, and we're supposed to talk nice about everything Kate's done?
But I would have to say, children being raped, which happens all the time, IS horrible and ugly. I will absolutely agree with that.
Thanks Denise,
The link doesn't work because Zondervan's site is still down, but hopefully we can read it tomorrow.
The sheeple are AGAIN trying to turn attention away from the topic - Kate's exploitation and emotional abuse of her chidren. Please don't fall for it.
"No renting. We've taken up permanent residence."
That's unfortunate. They should not allow what we think to bother them so much. After all, it's just opinions and everyone has them. What's more, everyone is entitled to them. We never tell them they're not entitled to their own opinions. We may not agree with them, but we acknowledge their right to have them.
"Why do you support a child exploiter?"
Excellent question. But why clutter things up with ugly reality? So much nicer to think of Kate baking sugar plums in her sugary pink kitchen and dancing like the sugar plum fairies while the children all laugh and cheer.
dee3
I think you need to judge yourself.
Why do you support a child exploiter?
Do you also support Larry Flint?
I JUST told a friend, "why do they assume everybody is a Christian?"
NancyB, as much as I would like to take credit concerning the 3 book contract and Jon's portion, I don't remember asking it? It might be that someone else is due credit, or it could be that CRS (can't remember sh**) problem that I have. lol
Anonymous, Does the Administrator and her posters need your permission to express our opinions?
The kids were exploited.
The kids will continue to be exploited.
Anonymous is correct. Nothing we do matters.
However, keeping quiet and allowing the abuse to continue under our eyes is sinful to some of us too. If it bothers you, you can click away and your life won't be annoyed.
We can't click away from injustice, child labor abuses and emotionally abusive mothers. We care more about the children than Kate's feelings or ego.
The picture on her book has a strange expression. It's as if smiling is not natural to her. She looks pained.
Re: my comments about Zondervan. They publish a lot of books that may or may not direcly line up with each person's religious thoughts. I don't agree with everything they put out (this being the worst) but she ~claims~ to be a Christian...and how can they judge such a thing? They are just doing business.
To clarify- I wish they would not support Kate but I don't fault them for making a buck.
No he just said don't judge another least of all you will be judged accordingly.
ADMIN~ So sorry, I sure had not meant to post the last part of that question 3 times.
bbsak, YW :)
If ALL the publications misquoted (using the exact same words) Kate's book the publisher/Kate would have asked for a retraction or correction. There is no issue here.
They are quotes from a written source - different than someone saying someone said something.
(lots of S's.) lol
Did anyone Read or See them is my question?
Anonymous,
Those are quotes from her book. The question is?
Anonymous said...
About Life/Style's quote after the divorce any sign of any truth to what they quoted?
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What is the quote?
About Life/Style's quote after the divorce any sign of any truth to what they quoted?
Paula,
I can't imagine Meredith Viera giving her any positive feedback on this book...IF she's already read it. I'm frustrated with these interviewers not being informed when they interview Kate or discuss her. They should have had to watch at least some of the episodes of the show to discuss that topic (J&K plus 8) and they should have read the book in order to interview her about it...or to discuss it.
It's beyond frustrating when these people have not bothered to watch the show or read the book or actually research the topic that is to be on the coming show.
I will be very frustrated if anyone discusses the book or interviews Kate on it without having read the book AND I will be totally disgusted if anyone who HAS read the book, gives it positive reviews or gives her a pass...especially if any of them have children themselves.
dee3
Since it is about the book, has anyone found any quotes from Kate about the divorce that Life/Styles reported she said. You know the ones Life/Style wouldn't make up?
Ok, I read the TMZ article again and the only thing List says is "under the right circumstances"
and "The contract would have to be tighter".
It sounds like TMZ asked the questions and List answered. It wasn't that List called up TMZ and is trying to negotiate Jon being on the show again.
The other entertainment news sources are reporting this story as Jon is out looking to hook up with Kate again.
I'm holding out hope that List's answers were taken out of context.
Yes, Let us just concentrate on bashing Kate. Its much more fun that way.
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