"Why has every single one of them refused to say a word, apparently?"
Class. Taking the high road. Knowing when to keep one's mouth shut. That's why I respect Beth so much. She knows better than to join the media frenzy. Once you start talking, it escalates and only breeds more fodder for the tabloids.
I think there are folks out there, like Beth, who love these kids SOO much they would not risk hurting them by breathing a bad word against their parents. Jon and Kate are still their parents. That's why Jodi and Kevin's decision was so tough because in order to help the children they put their whole relationship with them on the line. I don't find it all that perplexing actually that people are keeping private things about the kids private.
Thank you so much for providing that comment from another site. I really needed that right at this moment because I was beginning to feel some teensy (very teensy) inklings of actually feeling sorry for Kate.
I know, I know, but I am a major sucker when it comes to this...I feel sorry for every-darn-body. It's pitiful....I know. I don't know what's wrong with me....but I do this all the time.
But aside from my personal personality problems (:D).....WHY, I ask again...are they going to THESE lengths for this woman? Did they think all this stuff wasn't going to eventually leak out in bits and pieces like this? WHO, in their right mind, is thinking they can still promote this woman as the nicest and most motherly person on the planet? The role-model for all mothers?
I'm sorry, I KNOW she's bringing in the money right now...but I still don't get it. WHY, WHY, WHY is a corporation this size going to THIS much trouble for this ONE woman? Nothing yet has come close to explaining this for me.
I am a disabled stay-home person,alone,with small dogs,so I get to see alot, with no distractions,I scrutinized to see any kids,there were a couple, but not kate's.No, I do not just read about kate all day out here! Just first thing every morning,to see what her day will be like!lol,lol,lol.
Why did Barbara Walters make her one of the 10 most interesting people of 2009? Why did she get to guest host "The View" with no experience OR talent? I am sure that TLC bought her for her dysfunction...why did ABC buy her? Is this a modern day Pygmalion experiment (Google "My Fair Lady" with Audrey Hepburn)? Take your average American housewife and turn her into media gold? I don't think it will work in the long run, because of her dysfunction.
I also wonder if Jon is on the payroll to BE trashed by Kate. It is a way to make a buck.
You've made a really EXCELLENT point....and one I'd not really focused on. That this huge conspiracy of silence and what seems so impossible to explain about this entire debacle is.....that this is basically a huge cover-up and that they are trying to prevent a huge lawsuit BY Jon and Kate....so they divided and separated. You are so right here. AND they have separated them from a whole lot of others too, including their own family (Jodie, Kevin, etc.)"
Here is Preesi saying two days ago virtually the same thing I posted today. (Just now saw it). But I'm sure I got some of these ideas on another blog, back when Jon stopped the show and the divorce stuff was going on.
Preesi:
TLC Is Keeping Kate Busy So She Doesnt Sue Them TLC is just stringing her along till her contract is out. They need to keep her and Jon pitted against each other and separate cause if they stopped fighting and sat down and talked they COULD band together to sue TLC/Discovery Communications for millions for DESTROYING their family, Labor violations, filming their kids naked etc. So TLC keeps Kate delusional so she will think they are on her side so she wont sue them. Jon and Kate made 2.5 million from the show TLC made $200 MILLION off J&K Jon and Kate have an EXCELLENT case to sue TLC, and thats what TLC has to avoid at all costs.
I could not agree MORE with TLC just stringing Kate along. As long as she keeps making them money it pays to string her along, keep her happy, and prevent a lawsuit. They will very slowly and carefully sever the relationship keeping her happy the whole time, when the time comes where she is of no use to them.
If Kate were to EVER wise up she would see there is a lot more money to be had suing TLC then embarrassing herself on DWTS for 50k an episode.
I think "they" destroyed Jon, and they still have him by the privates. Not one person in the media has asked hard questions to Kate, but they crucify Jon. Why hasn't one person in an interview question it when Kate throws around innuendos? Someone is being protected at all costs even if it means destroying someone else. The problem as I see it, is that the man they have destroyed is the father of these children. He is a good father,I really don't think that has ever been in question. Instead we are reading about the size of his privates, him cheating on Kate and causing the divorce, him bein a deadbeat and not paying support. Come on I want 1 major network to step up and do some research and then set the record straight. Unfortunately it will never happen because someone somewhere is protecting Miss Kate
Does anyone know where the disgarded Kart is today? I read somewhere she was going to be on Kelly and Regis tomorrow. Don't know if it's even true, but I can't picture her going home and baking cookies right now.
The only way we'll know that the disgarded Kart is really in trouble is if we DO see her spend any significant amount of time at home being a mom.
"TLC is just stringing her along till her contract is out." (that WGC posted from preesi's site)
Administrator and Wisconsin Garden Chick~
Couldn't Kate still sue them after the contract runs out? What type of statute of limitations would be involved here? There are indeed SO many aspects/features of this hypothesis that make a great deal of sense to me and really do explain many of my unanswered questions.
Also, once Jon's contract runs out, couldn't HE sue TLC for this exact thing? Or...why didn't he threaten them with this during the prior contract dispute he had with them?
What would be their possible long-term plan to keep Kate and Jon from telling the real truth and from suing them over this and how long would they have to worry about them doing this?
From my perspective, there has to be some really BIG reason for why they've gone to the lengths they have in this situation. And this hypothesis seems to me to be a really good one to consider.
"Why has every single one of them refused to say a word, apparently?"
I'm not totally sure, but I think I might have been the one (or one of the ones) who asked this question. And I'd not meant people like Beth....I'd meant peripherally involved people...VERY peripherally involved...like household employees, employees on the sets of all the shows she's been interviewed on....all the "little people" who have interacted with her for one reason or another (waited on her in a restaurant, a make-up person, a lighting guy, etc.). People like that.
There's got to be hundreds and hundreds yet not until now are tiny leaks getting out. Why?
And as an aside...I totally agree on the issue of Beth not talking. This is a woman with total class. A true role-model of a person who would not want to hurt the children.
IT factor...this is a phrase used to mean "that certain something that someone has". Saying that a person needs to have the "IT factor" means that the person needs to have that certain something or that certain quality that would make them stand out in a crowd.
Okay, excuse me for being ignorant but WHY are we discussing Jon and Kate suing TLC?????
No matter what a monster and a money grab TLC has been throughout this fiasco, Jon and Kate went willing and had no qualms about doing the show, pimping the kids, outing their own faults and collected a check.
The talk about Jon and Kate suing TLC is as ridiculous as a teenager paying an adult to buy him a six pack and then suing the adult when the teenager gets in an accident.
Jon and Kate both went willingly into this foray to fame. They did it for 5...Count them, 5 seasons. There is no legal ground for Jon and Kate to sue TLC for anything. They lived large, collected the checks, pimped the kids, continued to put themselves out there for the press and still, to this day, prey on the press.
Jon or Kate, suing TLC would be a frivilous lawsuit and a laughing stock. Jon and Kate's claim for damages would be as valid as a hooker suing a john because he offered cash and she gave it up. Jon and Kate have no claim and if they did sue TLC, I'm pretty certain that TLC would release cutting room tape of what a totally disfunctional family they were during this scam of a television show.
TLC has nothing to worry about in a court of law. Jon and Kate have everything to worry about in a court of public opinion.
Also, every single segment of her being interviewed or talked to on that show is completely scripted. Nothing spontaneous whatsoever. We should probably assume this is true of Kate and her media team on whatever media outlet they are on. There were rules regarding what verbage one could use when interviewing her - no refrences to any of the children by name, Jon by name, the old show, and of course TLC. By doing this they are severing her image from the past and pushing her forward relabeled in vague terms like "America's favorite mom" or "single, working mom", etc.
If this is true from the GWOP post then it's probably why no one asks the hard questions. Since Kate's a hot commodity right now I'm guessing there are rules up front before she's booked on a show.
I'm guessing people are not speaking up because they've seen what happens when people do. Look at admin. She goes to a book signing, reports her experience, and it sounds as if now she's getting threats, or at the very least nasty blog posts. Kendra made the mistake of saying on a talk show that she would never put her child on a reality show after preschool age and for some reason she had to qualify her statement as not a reflection on Kate. And the list goes on. The TV industry seems to be one big conglomerate with tenacles into every aspect of programming.
The "IT factor" is the indescribable quality that makes something special. The "IT factor" does not have to make logical sense. (think about a really odd color that becomes fashionable one season, but is gone the very next season)
Dee 3: I think there have been plenty of people who have come forward with stories of Kate. I have read hundreds of articles in magazines for the past year on Kate's horrible behavior, and the sources for these articles have been mostly anonymous - but they are people in the know who have talked! Plus many of her employees have signed confidentiality agreements, so they cannot be expected to make the media rounds. US Mag and the Enquirer especially have been dogged in chronicling all of Kate's drama. There have been a few blog posts of those 'in the know' as well..if you choose to believe those. (Like the one discussed above from Disney guy who sounds credible). What's more incredible is there has been nothing, even in People mag, not even a HINT that Kate is a nice person, no stories of those coming forward with a real , genuine interaction or relationship with her.
Hey gang, I'm heading for the sack right now. Have a biopsy test tomorrow that I haven't studied for but it is what it is. I'm hoping that the results are negative. As I write this, I'm listening to a song from Five For Fighting called Chances.
The lyrics and the tune are great and were featured in the Sandra Bullock movie "Blind Side".
Chances are when said and done Who'll be the lucky ones Who make it all the way? Though you say I could be your answer Nothing lasts forever No matter how it feels today"
A great song, an even better movie and a wake up call that chances are, we won't live forever. Chins up, and just hope for the best. Kelly
Dee3 said... See, I agree with you in concept. But what were they selling? Year after year to media outlets, other networks, new agencies, etc.? The role-model mother? In other words, WHAT did they see, including the good and the bad, that made her seem hugely profitable? Don't get me wrong.....she WAS indeed a goldmine. But what was such a goldmine about her that made her worth taking such big risks for? I mean, at first, I thought it was the children. Now YES, the children were a HUGE goldmine for them....But her...what was the goldmine? The role-model mother? Or the train-wreck?
You and I agree, Dee3. Both mother and train-wreck are correct. I think it's all of the above and the goldmine has become 'Kate Gosselin'. In the beginning I think they were trying to sell a loving, caring, harried, hands-on mom of 8, but then saw her sharp tongue, watched her order Jon around and exploited that and then everything else they saw. They exploited the very things the blogs were going wild about. What are they selling now? HER - whatever that is!
I think the reason we don't understand what/why people pay big money for her is because we don't see any talent or logical reason for her-the phenomenon called Kate Gosselin to be in everyone's face daily. Heck, you and I wouldn't pay money for her, but television/advertising is a strange beast and IMO, it's unfortunate that ugly trainwrecks sell. She's a prime example of people tuning in to watch someone who has no talent make a fool out of herself. Strange behavior isn't it? But we were a part of the audience that tuned in to watch her fail and because we tuned in (as well as millions of others), ABC made LOTS of money and that money trickled down to TLC and then because of the way advertising/tv works that is in turn translated into success. You and I saw her fail miserably, but for TV and ad people, it was a successful collaboration.
She expressed interest, dropping hint after hint, in having a career as a star (I didn't say as an actor or co-host because I think her career aspiration is nothing more than just to be a star) and because she's a hot commodity they're running with everything that's dropped in their lap. It's about money. As long as she brings in ratings they're happy because HUGE ratings mean HUGE money. I think it's sad that our culture is drawn to watch something as appalling as her dances and listen to her contradictions and lies and the way she exploits her children, but we do. It's 2010 and this is what we are about. Does that mean I don't tune in or that I don't read the press she gets? No.
I do wonder how they'll handle the bad press and opinion pieces that have been written about her. Will they change tactics? I don't thinks so - why fix something that isn't broken. In television, the shows run until advertisers stop paying to make them. The goldmine has become her, Kate Gosselin, their polarizing moneymaker, defying all logic, with no talent other than to create controversy. IMO, she's given them more than a few headaches with her never-ending contradictory statements and I wonder if they'll do some work to refine/redefine their product and we'll see her script much tighter.
Dee3 said... Here's what I think (and I'm just totally winging it here)....I think it was a FLUKE. It was the strange and coincidental result of a show that became an overnight success for a cable channel, due mainly to the adorable children involved. Then the annoying yet interesting personality of the mother ramped up the ratings....and then for some unknown reason, TLC threw all of their power and influence behind her...and she became an extremely polarizing TV personality, catching the attention of the internet and becoming the focus of a huge blogging community, complete with blog wars...and this took on a life of its own...and from there, she became the woman that a certain segment of the population loved and the rest of the critical-thinking population loved to hate. A fluke. College classes will study the phenomenon in the future, I predict.
Exactly! That is the goldmine. The fluke, known as the Kate Gosselin factor, is the goldmine.
"She is ready for a break now. She can't wait to get home and put on sneakers and go back to being ...... "She will have a short break before she begins working on her new TLC show and she needs some down time with the children. ~~~ Has anyone looked at her book tour schedule at Preesi's site? More 'writers' believing what the lies. It doesn't sound like Kate will be home the rest of this month, at least. Haven't see the May schedule. Anyone?
prairie mary, thanks for the tip from GWOP! V.interesting!
French Canadian, you could also say that the "it" factor is the 'je ne sais quoi' that someone has that makes them special.
I have been busy the past few days and am only now catching up on all these posts. And coming in at the end as I am, I have to say I think you are all so smart to have put all the pieces together about TLC and the Gosselins.
But I am just so shocked (and appalled) that TLC could have so much power that they are able to keep everyone in line. How they are able to get people to retract seemingly innocent comments because it might make the Kart look bad. It is a frightening thought that they are wielding their power so blatantly. Truly afraid. And what about our brave admin? I hope TLC's arm doesn't reach that far...
Dee3 said... I'm sorry, I KNOW she's bringing in the money right now...but I still don't get it. WHY, WHY, WHY is a corporation this size going to THIS much trouble for this ONE woman? Nothing yet has come close to explaining this for me.
I would imagine she's caused them quite a few headaches, but thats you and me thinking that. Their thinking may be that any press is good press, idk. The only way we'll know is if or when she sticks to just one script rather than reading from them all.
CJ said... Think of this as "the Perfect Storm" ~~~ CJ, exactly! And I agree w/the above poster who said college classes (PR/marketing) will be studying this phenomenom for years to come.
Dee3 said... Here's what I think (and I'm just totally winging it here)....I think it was a FLUKE. It was the strange and coincidental result of a show that became an overnight success for a cable channel, due mainly to the adorable children involved. Then the annoying yet interesting personality of the mother ramped up the ratings....and then for some unknown reason, TLC threw all of their power and influence behind her...and she became an extremely polarizing TV personality, catching the attention of the internet and becoming the focus of a huge blogging community, complete with blog wars...and this took on a life of its own...and from there, she became the woman that a certain segment of the population loved and the rest of the critical-thinking population loved to hate. A fluke. College classes will study the phenomenon in the future, I predict.
I couldn't agree more and they are riding the wave as far as they can. When it's over, they'll drop her hard and fast.
I'm wishing you well for your biopsy tomorrow. I hope it's nothing serious.
As to the "it" factor that FC asked about earlier? I always understood it to be a magical quality that can't be described, but draws you to a certain person. In Kart's case, it must be black magic?
A lot of people refer to Preesi's site? What is it?
OK, I went over to Preesi's site to read the part about this being a huge, organized effort to prevent Jon and Kate from suing TLC.
And she'd posted something that did kinda answer one of the questions I'd been wondering about:
"Sure but the more she stays in bed with TLC and goes along with everthing the less of a case she has." (my question relating to couldn't they sue TLC after the contracts are up).
Kelly~
I'm not a legal professional in any way but I was assuming that this hypothesis was based on the fact that Jon and Kate had signed the initial contracts without a lawyer representing them. And therefore, this was a scenario where a big corporation had taken advantage of a pair of rubes....and that this could possibly give them the ability to sue due to lack of appropriate legal representation. Like I said, I'm no legal expert...but wouldn't this be like the police questioning someone without a lawyer present? I'm not totally sure myself. Jon and Kate would also be privy to all sorts of info TLC may not want them to reveal. Also there may be issues like this question of whether the TLC camera crew and staff had been background checked...that I'd imagine J&K could claim they'd had no knowledge of and had assumed all TLC staff were safe to trust their children with.
I don't know enough to be able to say whether or not a lawsuit brought by J&K is even possible...or if this could be something TLC is trying to avoid at all costs..........in order to explain WHY TLC has gone to SO much trouble to promote and to protect Kate.
All I can say is that there has to be SOME serious explanation for this. And I've felt this way for a very long time. The extent to which TLC has gone to protect Kate, to control information and to maintain a certain facade is SO extreme, IMO....that SOMETHING has to be responsible for this. There was/is either something interpersonal going on behind the scenes or there is some huge secret they are trying to hide or some huge risk they are trying to avoid. I just can't figure out which one it is. But it's definitely something. I just KNOW it.
GKWay, I just read that article from the Montreal paper. Hilarious, dead on analysis! The opening line had me ROFL... "Before you even start with the "This is news?!" comments, let's get it out of the way early: Dancing With the Stars breakdowns are not news. They're just not. They're opportunities to revel in the misery of Kate Gosselin."
I agree with your comments, bbsak, and would take it a step further in that not only is TLC exploitating Kate, they are also exploitating the children. It's all part of the same package because without the children, Kate is nothing. And I think that's what makes this such a volatile story.
Yes, people watched DWTS without the kids, but that was a short stint compared to a weekly reality show. And we certainly heard about the kids almost every time Kate opened her mouth because they are her gimmick. She has nothing else. If this were only about Kate, I could care less what she does.
I would guess for the most part it's the children that Kate fans want to see. And for many of us, that's absolutely the worst thing that could happen to them. And therein lies the major conflict and the polarizing factor in this whole saga. JMO.
Just got back from BM's side,found out that kate was out to dinner,a fancy place,fancy chef cooked,for a bunch from DWTS, they all love her soo much. So I guess she first tucked her kids into their fancy hotel beds,read to them, kissed them goodnight-then went out?! Yeah,right,she can't wait to go home and be a mom again!! Some of them over at that side were hoping she would get matched up so cute with Aiden, until one of them said he was married.I think they will be finding all kinds of men to match her up with,they sure do love her, can't be very great moms themselves if they think kate is such a great one.JMO. Good luck tomorrow,funny kelly! Goodnight all.
Kelly~Good luck tomorrow and I hope everything turns out fine. Will be thinking of you.
Carolina Gal~That was my fault. I copied and pasted a book tour that was from last year (that I'd gotten from Preesi's site) and as far as I know, there is no book tour schedule available for this year yet. At least I've not seen one anywhere.
bbsak~Your entire post was fantastic but I love this one paragraph especially:
"I do wonder how they'll handle the bad press and opinion pieces that have been written about her. Will they change tactics? I don't thinks so - why fix something that isn't broken. In television, the shows run until advertisers stop paying to make them. The goldmine has become her, Kate Gosselin, their polarizing moneymaker, defying all logic, with no talent other than to create controversy."
This was an additional issue I couldn't figure out...had they planned (in their long-term grand plan) for what they would do if the tide turned and people began to dislike her in huge numbers(?).
It does truly boggle the mind but the consensus here (which is totally making sense to me) seems to be that this has been, for the most part, a fluke. And TLC has gone along for the ride, as long as the money kept rolling in.
Because really, when you think about it, there is so much about this whole thing nobody could have reasonably predicted. The whole blogosphere sensation, for one thing. The mutations were almost dizzying. They started with this happy, happy family...morphed to family with shrewish mother (but the shrewishness increased ratings)...then morphed to the sudden tabloids with Jon's women and then the big divorce announcement (which they milked for all it was worth, the poor children be damned)...and suddenly Kate herself was a tabloid sensation...and the blogosphere caught fire and blog wars ensued....and meanwhile, money was pouring in thanks to both the fans and the non-fans. In this sudden bizarro world, a not like-able woman, with no apparent talent, had become the hottest topic on all the celebrity websites and everyone was talking about her.
BUT....now we have this DWTS disaster, a new book that is not selling well and being panned, a state investigation, a custody suit looming and the sudden appearance of articles everywhere that are not complimentary to Kate....SO many that it actually does look like the tide may be turning and that she's finally worn out her welcome with the American public. And there are two shows on the horizon....already committed to.
WHAT will happen? How will TLC turn this around and fix this?
And just how far WILL they go to turn this around? Maybe THAT will give us some indication of just HOW much they have to hide....and that they've been desperate to hide all along.
I sure hope so. Because I just feel it so strongly....that there is SOMETHING behind this. And it's not just ratings and money. There is something even shadier back there...I can just feel it. And I've felt it from way back...and it's never gone away. They've just gone way too far and crossed way too many lines to protect this one woman.
I just went to Disneyland with my handicapped niece. We were escorted to the front of the line on every ride she chose and we didn't have to wait our turn! It was the same when we went 3 years ago.
I'm sorry your niece is handicapped. Fortunately, her handicap is physical? The Gosselin kids are, and will, deal with an emotional handicap for the rest of there lives.
Another question for all, I wonder if Murt has contacted Beth Carson?
prairiemary said... Just got back from BM's side,found out that kate was out to dinner,a fancy place,fancy chef cooked,for a bunch from DWTS, they all love her soo much. ******************************* The article on Eonline repeated at BM's site was confusing. The first part mentions Evan, Erin, Maks, and Anna going to Madeo LAST Night.
The second part talks about a dinner after Kate's last dance MONDAY night. That dinner where most of the cast went to was for Aiden Turner's birthday. I read a report about it yesterday and saw pics.
The cast is very gracious and under contract to DWTs so even if they don't like someone they will say they support them. Not saying Kate but anyone they would say they were supportive. I felt the fact that none came down for a group hug Tom B. mentioned spoke volumes.
Dee3said... Here's what I think (and I'm just totally winging it here)....I think it was a FLUKE. It was the strange and coincidental result of a show that became an overnight success for a cable channel, due mainly to the adorable children involved. Then the annoying yet interesting personality of the mother ramped up the ratings....and then for some unknown reason, TLC threw all of their power and influence behind her...and she became an extremely polarizing TV personality, catching the attention of the internet and becoming the focus of a huge blogging community, complete with blog wars...and this took on a life of its own...and from there, she became the woman that a certain segment of the population loved and the rest of the critical-thinking population loved to hate.
A fluke. College classes will study the phenomenon in the future, I predict.
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I have never been married and I have no children. If God wanted me to have my own kids he would have put a man in my path. I will be 54 years old on May 10th. Yes I remember hearing about the tups being born on my bday even though I live in CA.
Next thing I know they (my birthday babies) are on my TV. I'm impressed at all the chaos. Even if I am not a mom I watched the show. Then just like everyone else on this blog, one day something just did not smell right so I google "Gosselin" and find GWOP. I discover I am not alone.
Even when Bobby Sherman and David Cassidy were the IT guys, at 16 I was not into them. OK, I liked cowboys way back when (I really do know Ty Murray from DWTS season 8) but still I did not go crazy over the IT boys in TIGER BEAT.
My point is even during the teenybopper frenzy period I was not as absorbed in these guys at 16 as I am with Katezilla at 54. Why is that? Does the Internet add to the frenzy? Or is it simply that we are all just more informed?
Re the blog wars: How can people who watch the same episode be polar opposites regarding what they just saw on their TV? Seriously, why does Kate have lovers and haters that are miles apart in their point of views? For example, how can leaving a sick child on a floor be considered acceptable by anyone regardless of whether or not they are a parent?
I am at a loss as to why people on Kate's fan site believe she is the perfect mother. I don't get it, and I never will.
For that matter I'm still at a loss as to how I can - for the lack of a better word - hate someone I have never met. Kate fires me up. Why is that?
A fluke, eh? I agree that college classes will be dissecting this blogosphere phenonmen for years. In fact I hope they do because at 54 I'm truly at a loss as to why this person who cannot act, sing or dance but can be abusive, manipulative, bitchy to her family and friends and does not have a problem in exploiting her own children for fame and fortune has got me so riled up!
I have a life. I might even get married this year. I'm an educated woman and it was not too long ago that I worked with celebrities so I'm not a pushover when it comes to "stars". In fact just the other day a 21 yr old girl told me she met George Strait's son and I laughed and then just had to tell her that I've met daddy. Now I could continue to name drop here but my point is none of these celebrities ever made me speechless even though some of them are drop dead gorgeous and/or they are big time stars. Most definitely more than a podunk reality TV star (cough cough).
All this being said, I seriously wonder what I would say to Kate if ever we were to meet. I know I would not refrain from speaking to her because after all she does put herself out there as a pubic figure ... well, no doubt I would meet Steve whether I wanted to or not, just like our Admin :)
TeamPam! said... Kate not having sex since January 09? That's about 6 months before she filed for divorce so I don't find that unusual at all. Am I missing something?
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Someone asked Jon about when he and Kate last had sex and he said the last time he was with Kate was in August. I assumed this was when they were in Hawaii.
Dee3 - not only do I agree with everything you've written, but I think you're probably the best writer I've seen on any of these sites!
The more I see of Kate on TV or in print (either being interviewed or commented on) the more afraid I am that she'll NEVER go away. She seems to be more and more legitimized with each appearance and hobnobbing with all the REAL celebrities is only feeding her ego. And there are more and more people defending her each time - her act seems to be working. :-(
I read at a fan site how "excited" they are for Kart's 2 shows to begin -- most especially they wish the Kart plus 8 was not just specials but was to be a weekly show--they miss the kids soooooo much. These type of comments I find very troubling. These children are not commodities to be used for people's viewing pleasure. That type of thinking is not just totally exploitative but simply OFF.
I bet that Kart will pay a visit to see Ted and get her hair extensions fixed up this week.
Forgot to post this BAD NEWS: Werny Galposted tht she has heard that the dogs have returned to the orphanage. I feel a lot of anger and sorrow about this.
When Kart forced Jon to "get rid of them" (the doggies)last fall, I had assumed that they had found their loving forever home. A few months ago when Kart announced that the dogs would be coming back I was crushed. To find out that they have been at the breeder's kennel all of these months is just horrible.
OMG! Just got these tweets from Jon... Is he kidding??? I mean it's great he wants to work things out but he's going up against Kate AND her ATTORNEYS without his own attorney. What an idiot. We'll probably hear from him six months from now that he wants to change custody because he didn't have an attorney present. (Start from the bottom up):
jongosselin1 Kate, her attorneys and I are moving forward to work out things privately and amicably. 18 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet jongosselin1 He has no legal right to speak to the press or anyone on my behalf. 18 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet jongosselin1 Mr. Anthony List Sr., Esq. is not my representing attorney; I terminated him on April 15, 2010.
Jon Gosselin has taken to Twitter to refute an interview his lawyer gave to TMZ:
Gosselin tweeted:
Mr. Anthony List Sr., Esq. is not my representing attorney; I terminated him on April 15, 2010..
He has no legal right to speak to the press or anyone on my behalf.
Kate, her attorneys and I are moving forward to work out things privately and amicably.
Previously, from TMZ:
Jon's lawyer, Anthony List, tells TMZ, "'Dancing with the Stars' is just the tip of the iceberg for Kate, as surely there will be many other projects to take its place soon."
List notes ... Kate has already signed on for two new shows -- both on TLC. And, he scoffs, "She's always promoting something ... and most of the time it's herself."
dee 3 said: Administrator and Wisconsin Garden Chick~
Couldn't Kate still sue them after the contract runs out? What type of statute of limitations would be involved here? There are indeed SO many aspects/features of this hypothesis that make a great deal of sense to me and really do explain many of my unanswered questions.
Also, once Jon's contract runs out, couldn't HE sue TLC for this exact thing? Or...why didn't he threaten them with this during the prior contract dispute he had with them?
What would be their possible long-term plan to keep Kate and Jon from telling the real truth and from suing them over this and how long would they have to worry about them doing this?"
I know nothing about the law, but my point (that I didn't make well) in my first post is the potential repercussions bad publicity (should stuff come out about the Gosselin show) and/or a lawsuit would have for TLC's other shows. So much of their line-up (and profit) is shows about unusual families.
Stupidity and greed seems to be alive and thriving in this whole mess. I hope the kids sue the pants off the whole bunch in a few years and take every last penny.
I know you won't publish this, but I hope you read it. This was written by Kate's sister on a private facebook page she shared with Kate's mother.
“All I ask is that you consider two things. One, that you are not perfect either… so there is no room for imperfect people to judge others. NONE!
Two, that she does have family that your words do hurt. You can look at the family as innocents in this situation. You are hurting innocent people. I totally agree that you can have your own opinions. But you need to keep them to yourself. Calling someone names on a public forum lacks grace, understanding, and self-control. Your words are hurtful, whether true in your opinion or not.
Let’s say you have a son or daughter. Maybe you do! Imagine if complete strangers who never met your child began to judge him or her and say outrageously hurtful things about them WHETHER OR NOT they decided to put themselves on public display by their own choosing! Attaching swear words and unkind comparisons and judgments to your child when they never got to know your child’s tender heart, charming spirit, or great sense of humor would DEVASTATE YOU, would it not?
Imagine being a daughter watching these words people choose to say so off-handedly break your own mother’s heart. I experience this everyday.
Are you seriously NOT ashamed of this?!!!
Let’s sow seeds of LOVE, ACCEPTANCE, and KINDNESS into our world. NOT seeds of judgment no matter WHAT a person, in your opinion, has done or not done to “deserve” the criticism.”
I was going to write a nice reply to amyf and MickeyMcKean (which I will do, but later) but then I saw this latest info. about Jon dropping his lawyer, Mr. List.
IMO, Mr. List was by far, the best attorney Jon had hired to date. And now he has apparently fired him because...of things he said to the press.
Now...let's stop and think. We know that Jon is not exactly a rocket scientist...not the sharpest tool in the shed...BUT....we would have to believe that either Jon is the STUPIDEST person on the planet....OR...that lots of pressure from a certain entity has been placed on Jon....in order to explain this.
So again...I ask you....WHAT in the name of God is causing TLC to go to THIS much trouble for this ONE talentless woman? Name me ONE celebrity, actor, actress, singer, etc. that an entertainment corporation has gone to THIS much trouble to promote and to protect. Please, please try. Think of one other person who an entertainment corporation has done this for....lied, exerted undue influence, you name it.
I agree that this is about money. It's always about money when it comes to corporate America. But this is also about something else. I don't know what it is, specifically....but it's something big. There HAS to be a reason for why they are promoting and protecting THIS one woman more than anyone else, more than far more talented and valuable entertainment entities. NOBODY stands in their way when it comes to protecting Kate...not lawyers, not state labor boards....nobody. They hire a supposed bodyguard to be with her 24/7 so nobody can get near her. WHY?
I mean, am I exaggerating here? Has anyone ever seen anything like this? This could be right out of an espionage novel. I mean, this is KATE. She can't sing, she can't act....WHY?? Somebody please give me some alternate explanation.
Regarding the twitter posts (tweets) that Jon posted this morning -- sounds 'fishy' to me. What exactly is TLC up to or what exactly is in that settlement that Jon had with them. I really think they are totally in control of everything Gosselin -- in other words, they are pulling the strings on the Kate & Jon puppets.
"No matter what a monster and a money grab TLC has been throughout this fiasco, Jon and Kate went willing and had no qualms about doing the show, pimping the kids, outing their own faults and collected a check."
Kelly, I agree they were greedy and willing to sign the contract. HOwever, I think a case could be made that a young naïve couple were ruthlessly exploited. There was a serious imbalance of power here. Had they taken an action like that back when Jon stopped the kids’ filming and they were going through a divorce, much of the public would have been sympathetic.
But my main point is that a lawsuit or bad publicity by people talking about what went on has the potential to affect many of their other shows – which are also based on exposing the private lives of families and children. So I doubt TLC would be afraid of a J & K lawsuit on its own – but the potential of any talk or legal action affecting their other shows – a much greater impact on their bottom line. Much cheaper to keep Kate busy and thinking she’s a “star” with a “career” that risk turning her against them. JMHO.
Why Fans Rejected Kate Gosselin on DWTS PHILADELPHIA - Why did TV fans reject Kate Gosselinon “Dancing With The Stars” after a huge publicity campaign? The math shows poor viewer voting did Kate in.
In the end, it may turn out that not that many Gosselin fans were voting for the Wernersville, Pa., reality TV star.
The reason Kate Gosselin was speechless after her “Dancing With The Stars” elimination was that the math was in her favor if she was near the top of the fan voting.
Gosselin has publicly said she wanted to remain on her show, and she was part of a huge publicity campaign for TLC and her new book, that coincided with “Dancing.”
She was unable to talk for a minute after the announcement.
Billy Ray Cyrus used a similar strategy to finish in 5th place on “Dancing,” when the number of high scores given to Apolo Ohno and Laila Ali threw the math off against Cyrus. Gosselin finished in 8th place.
“Dancing” picks losers based on a simple formula. It adds up each person’s share (out of 100) of the judges’ scores and total fan vote, adds the two numbers together, and picks the lowest combined score.
Kate Gosselin had 8.6% of the total judges’ score with her 15 out of 30. She just needed 1.7% more of the popular vote than Niecy Nash or Chad Ochocinco, or 3.5% more than Pamela Anderson to stay on the show.
Gosselin was in the bottom two with Anderson, meaning at best she was the fourth overall highest vote getter among fans.
In the aftermath, Gosselin will head back to Reading after her stay at the Beverly Wilshire with her children, get ready to do two TV shows for TLC, and fight ex-husband Jon Gosselin for custody of her children.
The custody hearing is set for May 25, which is also when “Dancing” wraps up.
Kate Gosselin's ouster from Dancing with the Star will not allow her to duck ex Jon Gosselin's 'absentee mother' lawsuit against her.
April 22, 2010, (Sawf News) - Kate Gosselin's ouster from Dancing with the Star will not allow her to duck ex Jon Gosselin's 'absentee mother' lawsuit against her.
Jon's lawyer, Anthony List, tells TMZ that Kate has other projects lined up that will keep her away from the kids.
"'Dancing with the Stars' is just the tip of the iceberg for Kate, as surely there will be many other projects to take its place soon," he said.
Alluding to the recent announcement that Kate will feature on two upcoming TLC project - Twist of Kate and Kate plus 8 - List added, "She's always promoting something ... and most of the time it's herself."
Jon Gosselin filed a motion on April 7 seeking full custody of their children and child support from Kate.
In his court filing, List called Kate "an absentee mom" citing her participation in the current season of DWTS, which requires her to be away in Los Angeles leaving the children behind in Pennsylvania with nannies.
The case will be heard by a Pennsylvania court on May 25.
Admin, There are special Disney VIP passes given to celebrities - you can find info about them all over the internet. It bums me out when people lie and then their entire comment can be not be believed. Remember the "volunteer" w the sick son in SD. Turned out to be a complete hoax...makes me wonder about "kate_in_cali"
jongosselin1 Kate, her attorneys and I are moving forward to work out things privately and amicably. 18 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet jongosselin1 He has no legal right to speak to the press or anyone on my behalf. 18 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet jongosselin1 Mr. Anthony List Sr., Esq. is not my representing attorney; I terminated him on April 15, 2010. ********
You know I've always thought Jon got the raw deal from all this fiasco and was glad when he finally decided to get a lawyer that can do something but if the FATHER of the kids is not willing to part with the money and so-called fame and put his kids first, who are we to try and do anything for the Gosselin kids? I feel like giving up because obviously the only person in the kids corner who could have changed their circumstance for the better, is just as money hungery, fame chasing and stupid as the MOM. They don't stand a flippin' chance. Jon has to be the dumbest person I have ever heard of. Who would try and work something out with their ex and HER ATTORNEYS, without his own lawyer and trust that he will get somthing good out of it? Did he enjoy all the bashing, hate articles, inncenudos that he received from Khate, her attorneys in the last 6 months or so? I say its money that talks and he is just wanting some of the pie, forget about his children. UGH!
If the above tweet is true, then I have officially given up on Jon--what a dunderhead. I hope he's not letting himself be manipulated by TLC and Kate dangling various carrots in front of him--they'll use you again, Jon, and it'll turn around to bite you in the ass again! He is still the kids' father, so I hope he gets more time with them, however, I think that he is looking to somehow get back on TV--for money reasons, of course. Those poor kids, with two parents whose god is money.
Kelly, I hope your biopsy is negative. I went through that last year; everyone was sure it would be a bad outcome, but it was a good one. Good luck. And... WHERE ARE YOU GUYS! TMZ REPORTING THAT KATE AND JON HAS FIRED HIS ATTORNEY AND KATE AND JON HAVE REACHED A PRIVATE, AMICABLE AGREEMENT. GOOD OLE' TLC.
The kids could certainly sue TLC when they come of age, or sooner if K & J sue or a guardian sued on their behalf. When they are 18 they're going to want to know what happened to their 8 pieces of the pie! I suppose they could even sue J & K!
Here's a thought. Maybe Jon's retreat is part of a TLC-orchestrated attempt to rehabilitate his image. JK+8 was pretty dull once the couple split. Maybe they are testing the waters to see if the public would welcome a "repentent" Jon on the new specials with the kids. Kind of far-fetched, I know, but no stranger than what's happened so far!
Blackmail, anyone? Either Jon was bribed or blackmailed. Either way, I am quickly losing respect for him. List seemed to be the best thing that ever happened to him.
To say that Kate's lawyers and himself are working things out is INSANE. They are chewing him up right now.
Anonymous that posted "Kate's mother and sister's Facebook" comment.
And just how does anyone know it is for real? There are so many fake facebook accounts out there. And where is the link to the account? Why don't you provide it so we can see for ourselves?
I'm sorry but I don't believe a Facebook or Twitter account is real unless it is confirmed by that person or their reps, etc. I didn't believe Jon's was his and Hailey's was hers until Jon stated they were real on their Gosselin Family website.
"Stupidity and greed seems to be alive and thriving in this whole mess. I hope the kids sue the pants off the whole bunch in a few years and take every last penny."
itsaboutthekids - I agree, but have the feeling when the kids come of age there won't be any money left to fight over. Ma and Pa Grifter will have spent it all. (or the lawyers)
Anonymous said... I know you won't publish this, but I hope you read it. This was written by Kate's sister on a private facebook page she shared with Kate's mother.
Hello Anonymous, I read the comments and it's something to think about. However, you've totally discredited yourself and your sincere intent by posting a privte conversation and copying it all over the internet. How respectful is that?
I'm sorry but I disagree with you... If an adult buys a teenager alcohol they have done something illegal and can be sued by the teen or his parents, especially if someone is hurt by it, nevermind the fact that they would be held responsible by the law. Just not a good comparison.
I personally think it is past the point of suing TLC as far as Kate is concerned. Jon maybe, but he doesn't have the balls or the stamina to stick it out. I personally feel that TLC should be held responsible for exploiting the family once they started having marital problems and then during the divorce. There's always the kids... they may sue TLC one day....
I read some either very similar or the same, nearly to two years ago. Although I remember it being on a blog for artists. It was Kate's sister the jewelry artist saying it. I didn't see the posting that sent her off but just going to the blog I felt like I invaded her space (I never posted), and never went back over there. She doesn't deserve criticism from any of us.
FYI--I am not the same Anonymous who posted about Facebook. I detest Facebook, am not on Facebook, never look at Facebook, and would never post a private conversation. I did make the post about reading Kate, Jon and TLC have reached a private, amicable agreement. I just read what I posted and am embarrassed that I didn't proof it before sending. I am degreed, and it sounded like an illiterate person made that post.
You know what? I'm done with this whole Gosselin saga. It's revolting, disgusting and sick. As Mary Matalin said on CNN last night, let's just "pray for the children".
Custody is handled where the children reside. Support is filed where the defendant resides or the last house where the couple resided.
On April 8 Jon filed a petition to recalculate the amount of support ordered - $21,691 a month - and to gain custody of the children.
Kate objected, charging the complaint did not follow Berks court procedures.
A new complaint was filed April 14, providing more details about the children, such as where the twins go to school.
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=214548
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"A new complaint was filed April 14, providing more details about the children, such as where the twins go to school."
I don't understand this comment. Complaint filed by Jon? Kate? Complaint about what? And how does the school location fit into it? Also, I thought all eight kids went to the same school. Is anyone else confused?
I don't see how Kate's new show will do well if Jon and Kate plus 8 did so poorly at the end when it was just the Kate show. I think most average viewers were turned off by her pity party and complaining on DWTS.
As the children get older, their poor manners and tantrums become far less tolerable. I don't think the Kate Plus 8 show will be nearly as popular as TLC is anticipating.
The Twist of Kate show just sounds stupid to me, I don't understand what Kart has to offer in the way of advice to anyone.
So, what's up with this? Why is TLC protecting and promoting Kart with such vigor? I'm missing something here, it's not adding up.
Schmecky Girl It's legit. I read the website myself complete with private family pictures the Kreiders new house and granchildren back in 2008. IIRC it was clarrisa. She has since made her site private.
Schmeck Girl The post is legit. This was taken from a blogsite one of Kate's sister had. IIRC it was Clarrisa. She is the one in PA. The gist was Clarrisa was being forced by Kate to choose between her and her parents. Clarrisa stayed with the parents. There were family pictures including the new house the parents had. A short while later the blogsite was closed.
Thank you! I get what you're saying. I just don't understand how pictures and stories can prove an account is legit. Was it linked to a legit site? I've seen some pretty good fakes and I just wonder how it was confirmed as legit that long ago. It doesn't really matter anyway... I don't care if Kate's mother or sister support her or not at this point.
So where did IW get that post from? Is it old? Is there a FB account still up? I couldn't find one. I'm not questioning IW... I'm questioning the FB account, but whatever.
Schmecky Girl, It was long ago. 2008 when I first wanted to learn more about KON. At the time I was nursing a broken collarbone and pneumonia. It was not on FB. It definately was (I think Clarrisa or was it Kendra?))her blogsite. She is quite 'intense' about her faith. IIRC she discussed the conflict, her child, husband, described a mushroom hunting excursion with her parents and her child (son?). Remember this was before all the crap came out. I have no reason to doubt it was her site. Certain things stayed in my memory. You could sense the anguish she was in over staying with parents and not seeing the kids anymore. Maybe she updated the post herself and put it out, I don't know. All I know was stumbling on it and being shocked. It verified my feelings that all was not as it seemed in the first house and E-town. There was also a post in the Reading Eagle archives around the time Kate was demanding an extention of the free nurse signed Kevin and Kendra (sibs). A very interesting read.
Here is the post from GWOP as per Prairemary's comment: Sorry about that!
kate_in_cali said... Re: the Gosselins cutting to the front of the lines @ Disney had nothing to do with their security and EVERYTHING to do with entitlement. My brother works there in management and acts as a host to VIPS when they come to the park. He's spent the day there with Sir Paul McCartney, Hugh Jackman, Christina Aguilera and guess what? They ALL STAND IN LINE per Disney's policy. Not to say there aren't other behind the scenes perks that they do get, but line cutting is not one of them. The only people who get preferrential treatment when it comes to the rides are people with disabilities - there is a different area for them to line up for the ride, but they do still have to wait their turns as well. I asked my brother if he had seen the Gs this weekend as he worked as well and he didn't. When I mentioned that they had been booed because they were cutting in on all the rides he said wow, she must've demanded that because otherwise that is not something they would normally do even for VIPs. The other interesting tidbit is since ABC is owned by Disney my bro has two friends who are PAs over on the DWTS set. Her nickname there is "angry Kate" and pretty much the rule is that when the cameras are off, do not approach or talk to her. The reports of her being late to hair and make up were completly true and even AFTER being given a talking to from the show's producer her behavior in that regard did not change. Also, every single segment of her being interviewed or talked to on that show is completely scripted. Nothing spontaneous whatsoever. We should probably assume this is true of Kate and her media team on whatever media outlet they are on. There were rules regarding what verbage one could use when interviewing her - no refrences to any of the children by name, Jon by name, the old show, and of course TLC. By doing this they are severing her image from the past and pushing her forward relabeled in vague terms like "America's favorite mom" or "single, working mom", etc. My brother also confirmed to me that there was a contract between TLC and ABC for keeping Kate on for a certain number of shows and placing her in a positive light. Of course, the only thing that didn't work with that is Kate herself. You'll notice that her rehearsal segments were really short because just like with Jon when they used to do the show, they couldn't get good footage because of her attitude. Interesting. We all knew/guessed this stuff from the get go, but it's kind of nice to hear from real people in the know that we're right. The real disappointment is seeing the corporate greed and what they will try to pull over on the public and what they will ruin on their way to get there.
Prairemary, I was in Charleston SC on Friday, on my way to Jekyll Island GA for the weekend so I missed your comment on Friday. I do have to tell you that I'm a guy and not a girl but don't let that make ya run for the hills. I'm 100 percent practicing heterosexual and my girlfriend approves of this message.
Yep--like Dude Ranch in 3 in heels and air balloons in 4 in heels etc etc etc- only time she is in anything close to sneekers is when there are pics of her in running shoes, walking with Jamie last summer.
Some speculated Kate knew beforehand that she was going home. Here's a quote from her on Good Morning America today. It sounds as if it wasn't the "gut" feeling she described last night--but that she knew for CERTAIN she was not coming back.
"[The kids] don't even know yet, actually. They were asleep by the time I got back last night, so I'll tell them this morning. I did not allow them to watch the show last night, because obviously I'm out here, and I already knew. They're out here with me. And so I will tell them today."
It's not a vast conspiracy. The show does not air live on the west coast. Therefore, since the children were in Los Angeles, Kate would have known she had been voted off before the show aired locally.
Nancy B, I watched that video of Kate being driven away and I actually channeled her for a few minutes. After those few minutes of channeling her, I actually fell in love with myself. I had this insatiable urge to cackle like a witch and went to my front door, looking for little people outside that I could smack around for a few minutes.
What I also noticed in watching that video was the sour puss look on Kates face as she sat in the back of a lowly GMC SUV and not her typical mode of transportation, a Lincoln Town Car or a stretch limo. I also didn't notice any of the kids unless they were being towed behind the SUV in a clown car. Also absent were the tinted windows and a few flags on the front fenders.
bbsak. Yes, you are right Kate did that 700 club interview in the midst of a crumbling marriage. My pastor is against tv evangelists. Well, he is against tv too. And, if you think about it the christian circuit made Kate a pretty penny in its day.
Well, rumor has it that we may be seeing Kate sooner than we think selling those books from her Wernersville garage. Carol Burnett released "This time together" Last week. Guess what? New York Times bestseller rank #4.
For all Kate's spin/twist tour last week all she has now is a failed book signing & a ticket back to Wernersville. The orphanage gets the Head village idiot back.
The 700 club is using Kate hoping that someone HUMAN will tune in that channel and actually watch. I'd rather watch a video on "How to clean a barbecue grill" than anything on the 700 club network.
Pat Robertson is an absolute 130 proof idiot that claims Haiti had an earthquake because no one there was christian. I wouldn't waste a keystroke by sending them an email protesting Kate Gosselin on their program. No one watches anyway but a handful of 80 year old blue hairs, sitting on a potty seat waiting for someone to clean them up.
Thanks for so eloquently and succinctly putting your finger on, and what I've long believed to be, the pulse of all things Take Greedslin.
"(and may still be happening)" may be the real reason behind the unbelievable self-imposed isolation of and estrangment from anyone who gets too close for comfort.
Imo, whatever "it" is, it began long before the end of Season One.
dee3 said: "But regardless of WHO it is/was.....I still find it almost impossible to believe that without there having been something REALLY odd going on behind the scenes, that TLC would have decided...with all the other possible choices they had available....to choose Kate, of all people, to become this huge celebrity and phenomenon who was literally untouchable. To have gone to the lengths of almost controlling the media on her behalf. To have gone to such great lengths to villify Jon. To have done whatever they had to in order to make this woman what she became.
I will never believe that this was just pure coincidence. I sure can't pin-point it, but my gut tells me that something REALLY fishy was going on behind the scenes all this time."
It really is unbelievable, isn't it? She really has no star power, no ability to talk or relate to people (needed for a talk show), speak intelligently or knowledgably about anything, isn't funny - what's the big talent?
Here's my conspiracy theory (and I saw versions of this elsewhere back during the divorce). That is, that TLC really exploited them ruthlessly, that the original contract, the one Jon and Kate signed w/o an attorney was draconian (there have been hints of this) and, as was highlighted with the hearing last week, they broke child labor laws. Jodi and Kevin's testimony that staff on the show came to them with moral qualms was also out there long ago.
So, what I think is that they want to divide and conquer, to keep J & K from joining forces and exposing some of what went on, maybe even attempting to bring a lawsuit. Such an action would not only mean very bad publicity against TLC, it would threaten many of their shows. Think about Little People (and their marital trouble), Duggars, and more.
Probably cheaper to manage Kate, let her think she has a "career" and is some kind of "star" rather than toss her aside and put all their money making child exploitation shows at risk.
The "IT factor" is the indescribable quality that makes something special. The "IT factor" does not have to make logical sense. (think about a really odd color that becomes fashionable one season, but is gone the very next season)
I think any of us that have followed this from the beginning can admit that it took us a while to catch on that something was off but they editited(??) the show in a way that it wasn't smacking us in the face. They were able to control her a bit better because she wasn't so popular or in the regular media as much.
Her appearances were controlled and to relatively small groups and no one was really paying attention to all the lies and contradictions. BUT when you put her on every morning/late show, DWTS, entertainment shows, ROL etc people are going to pay attention because really we had no choice she has been everywhere. She simply CAN NOT pull it off and maybe they were gambling that she possibly could.
She is so completely out of her league and no amount of coaching or training can change that because she does not have the “it” factor it requires to make it in show biz...
Does anyone think that Kate GAINED any fans after viewing DWTS?
The comments I hear the most from those who didn't really know or care about her before, now say they understand why she is so unpopular with so many. Some even go so far as to say they can see Jon's side of the story now.
Dee3, WHO and WHY made the decision to make Kate an invincible star and phenomenon? Why was SHE, a surely difficult-to-work-with and to manage narcissist....chosen to be given the gift of omnipotent celebrity, protected by all the clout and power TLC could muster? They not only had to CREATE her (as she has no real talent to speak of) but had to protect her (to the point where she became almost untouchable and invincible).
You, me and half of the blogosphere are questioning the same things. It defies logic yet it continues. She either has something on someone OR they're paying her off for some unknown reason OR they're using her and the kids - but then the question is - using her for what or why? And, the answer falls back to money.
TLC/Discovery made what, $200million a quarter when J&K+8 was on the air? If she's foolish enough and sick enough, to allow them to laugh at and exploit her and there are no laws prohibiting the use of the kids, I'd say they're pretty smart to continue using her (IMO, it's really not much more than that at this point). I know they did advertising, marketing, and distribution studies long before announcing the 2 new shows and they're certain they have enough ad revenue coming in to justify every cent they've poured into her and more.
Knowing TLC from their past performance, I'm pretty sure the new shows will proceed without delay (strike while the iron is hot and she's still in everyone's memory), but do I wonder if they and Zondervan haven't had a few conference calls to talk about combating the swell of negative opinion that her media overexposure the past 5 weeks generated and how they'll proceed.
Anyway, Dee3, I think this is a matter of BIG MONEY and when compared, the other issues are minor.
@StoopidSpice... Now where should Survivor go that would be perfect for Kate?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ How about home to her mansion. No nannies, no helpers, no bodyguards. Just Kate, and all 8 of her children. I think that would be one short lived show.
Does any parent here NOT have uncertainty about their kids future? WTF, Kate? Nobody has a crystal ball but you seem to think that your poor little kids will have to sell gum at the Tijauana border so you can continue to nourish them with food and young babysitters.
To Itsaboutthekids: Thanks for your quotes from the various articles. I don't click on stories but I do enjoy all the ignorance she spews when her mouth is open.
I think Kate may have shot herself in the foot going on DWTS. People who not know or very little about her now definitely have an opinion about her. They will be less likely to tune in her new show after seeing all her nastiness and contol she must have. The more TLC tries to rehabilitate her I think the less likely that will happen. She just has canned responses so not really her own thoughts and says them over and over again.
Some would crudely say "Who is she f****** and s******?"
Now, I have never watched DWTS before this season. Now I will. So on Monday, I will be watching again to see who is the winner at the end. Some people have decided that the judges are jerks, Whoopie is a jerk, and everyone is a hater. They will NOT be watching DWTS on Monday. And they make fun of us because we are so obsessed with Queen Freebie Irene! They are the jerks. And I know you are reading (because I read you!). I have plenty of good deeds in my karma bank to outweigh any harshness I feel for Kate. Maybe you should think of all the things you might do for the greater good. Instead of insinuating that I will have to re-live this life again because I have not learned. You aint Buddha baby!
This was Kate's big chance. She could have won people over with this whole thing. Had she been gracious, humble and kind, she would have won some new fans. Heck, I might have even started to support her efforts.
Instead she looked miserable and rude the entire time. She never looked to be working hard and she did not seem like a nice person. Not at all. There was no visible family or friend support in the audience. EPIC FAIL.
Instead of gaining new support she appears to have lost some of the support she had before it started. She also gained some new "haters" after that display.
There is something very strange about this whole thing. I have never seen anything like it before. Someone has an unbelievable amount of control over the media when it comes to Kate.
I mentioned this quite some time ago...and it's still something I wonder about to this day.
And in a nutshell, it's this: Who was Kate doing at TLC to cause this entire phenomenon in the first place? (and when I say "doing", I don't necessarily mean it in any crude way...it could have just been a friendship or a crush)
Sure, I understand that JK&8 was a sudden hit and goldmine for TLC. And sure, I understand that Kate's unique shrew-like personality seemed to add to the interest and ramped-up the ratings. And sure, I understand that Jon became disillusioned...and began to no longer toe the TLC line the way they wanted him to.
But even with all that...WHO and WHY made the decision to make Kate an invincible star and phenomenon? Why was SHE, a surely difficult-to-work-with and to manage narcissist....chosen to be given the gift of omnipotent celebrity, protected by all the clout and power TLC could muster? They not only had to CREATE her (as she has no real talent to speak of) but had to protect her (to the point where she became almost untouchable and invincible).
I still am wondering...WHY? And WHO made this decision? I've always had my suspicions about the involvement of Eileen O'Neill.....though let me make it clear that there is absolutely no proof of anything here and that this is just me speculating.
But regardless of WHO it is/was.....I still find it almost impossible to believe that without there having been something REALLY odd going on behind the scenes, that TLC would have decided...with all the other possible choices they had available....to choose Kate, of all people, to become this huge celebrity and phenomenon who was literally untouchable. To have gone to the lengths of almost controlling the media on her behalf. To have gone to such great lengths to villify Jon. To have done whatever they had to in order to make this woman what she became.
I will never believe that this was just pure coincidence. I sure can't pin-point it, but my gut tells me that something REALLY fishy was going on behind the scenes all this time. And because of my life experiences with working in corporate America....these sorts of things usually have some sort of really strange PERSONAL dynamic, that was going on behind the scenes, that was primarily responsible for it.
I just realized this.... and maybe someone has already men tioned it, but... as watching the monday nite show, and then tueday's elimination.. Kate basically blamed her kids for getting elimintaed... She said something to the fact that, she spent all of her energy on the kids, and so couldn't dance very well, then she was eliminated. When they kids watch that in the future, depending on how they chose to interpret comments of heres, they are going to think " Gees, its my fault momma got kicked off.."... good guilt trip for a kid.. but oh yes, ....
Kate is ALL about SHAME based parenting and guilt trips!
April 20, 2010 The long national nightmare ends: Kate Gosselin is kicked off Dancing with the Stars
Reality TV mom Kate Gosselin may have been the biggest bee-yotch to ever strap on a pair of stilettos for Dancing with the Stars.
But when she finally got the boot on Tuesday's show, host Tom Bergeron wasn't above wallowing in her failure a bit, waving off broadcast of a pre-taped tribute to dig a little deeper into the sexto-mom's bizarre justifications for being both unenthusiastic about performing and supremely snarked off that she got ejected.
"I was scared to death most of the time," said a teary Gosselin, whipping out the "pity me" card she flashed often after showing her caustic side on the reality show which first built her fame. "It takes a lot to do this."
One thing it takes, for example, is a willingness to learn from the professional instructor. And a bit of talent as a performer. And the will to push yourself past harsh judging and low scores to show improvement in a way the show's voting audience seems to love.
None of which Gosselin seemed willing or capable of doing. By her last performance Monday, she was essentially sleepwalking through her dance moves, floating the excuse that her kids had come to visit her (another essential point in Gosselin's M.O. -- whenever someone criticizes you, blame your shortcomings on your sacrifices for your children).
Still Gosselin played the diva to the last moment, pausing before answering the first of Begeron's questions, saying "I need a moment." Eventually, she would thank the audience "for believing in me more than I believed in myself." What was obvious - Gosselin had checked out and expected to be voted off this week. So why work hard, when you know the hangman's noose is coming anyway?
All the reality TV trickery in the world couldn't hide her awful attitude and non-existent dance skills -- this cycle's funniest moment remains when an acting coach was hired to teach her to show anger, and her expression never changed.
Beyond the Wicked Witch of the East, this cycle's DWTS continues to be a tough road for the tabloid-magnet women brought in to build the show's pop culture buzz. Though Niecy Nash and Bachelor dud Jake Pavelka deserved low scores more, bombshell Pamela Anderson landed alongside Gosselin in the bottom two, presumably because the show's female audience hates her pneumatically enhanced figure almost as much as Gosselin's crappy attitude.
Before long, she'll be gone as well and the series will get back to its traditional formula -- pitting skilled athlete Evan Lysacek against dancing pop star Nicole Scherzinger with Tampa's own Erin Andrews along as a dark horse contender.
Producers should be proud; they finally realized the show doesn't need a cast of thousands to build interest -- just a few carefully selected tabloid magnets to get the gossip rags going, building public interest as the real competition begins.
Posted by Eric Deggans at 09:41:13 PM on April 20, 2010
April 21st, 2010.Kicked Off Kate: ‘My Children’s Future Is Uncertain’
The emotional mom of eight gets to go home and her dancing partner, Tony, takes a jab at her on air!
Kate Gosselin, one minute you’re crying and the next you’re peeved with your dance partner Tony Dovolani!
Kate made it to week five of ABC’s Dancing with the Stars but sadly after her dance to ‘Don’t You Forget About Me‘ the reality mom got the boot on Apr. 20. When Kate appeared on GMA, the next morning, Apr. 21 to talk about getting kicked off she focused on her eight little Gosselins, who had been in LA with her for the past few days. ”My kids come first and their future is uncertain,” she says. “Dancing had to be second place.”
Tony remained quiet during most of the GMA interview but did point out that Kate’s moods were up and down, making it difficult during dance practices.
“It was a different Kate from hour to hour,” says Tony. “Depending on which Kate shows up.”
Kate didn’t like this comment from Tony one bit. She turned to Tony right after he uttered those words and glared at him saying “I really didn’t want you to say it … I don’t want people thinking I have multiple personalities or something.”
The DWTS castoff explained her live TV breakdown when she found out she was voted to come off.
“It was a mixed emotions cry,” says Kate. “I was sad it was me and I didn’t get to go further … My second thought was now I get to go home with the kids.”
We realize Kate is under a tremendous amount of pressure with a custody battle underway with her ex-husband Jon Gosselin. Not to mention Kate is the primary breadwinner of her household — she’s crisscrossing the country to promote her book , I Just Want You To Know and her two upcoming TLC shows.
But Kate there’s no need to get upset with Tony — he was just trying to teach your two left feet how to dance.
Direct quote from Kate! "Money will never sway me to change my convictions." http://omg.yahoo.com/videos/kate-gosselin-would-kate-ever-take-jon-back/10547 Does this moron think before she opens her mouth? Keep talking Kate! With every word that you utter you are adding another nail in your coffin. I pray that you are saving every dime that you make because your 15 minutes is down to five. TIC TOC, TIC TOC.
StoopidSpice said... I think now she should try for Survivor . Big prize money and get to be away from the chillrens. It is a win win. I would watch it. ~~ I think she'd have a shot on Survivor if only she didn't have to 'rough it'...that's not really Kate's idea of fun. But, I will say, if it were, she has the backstabbing, sneakiness, cunning, witchy side down, to be able to scam the other players (think Russell)...I think it would be a hoot to see her out there, she wouldn't last more than 45 min.
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Class. Taking the high road. Knowing when to keep one's mouth shut. That's why I respect Beth so much. She knows better than to join the media frenzy. Once you start talking, it escalates and only breeds more fodder for the tabloids.
I think there are folks out there, like Beth, who love these kids SOO much they would not risk hurting them by breathing a bad word against their parents. Jon and Kate are still their parents. That's why Jodi and Kevin's decision was so tough because in order to help the children they put their whole relationship with them on the line. I don't find it all that perplexing actually that people are keeping private things about the kids private.
Gkway and prairiemary~
Thank you so much for providing that comment from another site. I really needed that right at this moment because I was beginning to feel some teensy (very teensy) inklings of actually feeling sorry for Kate.
I know, I know, but I am a major sucker when it comes to this...I feel sorry for every-darn-body. It's pitiful....I know. I don't know what's wrong with me....but I do this all the time.
But aside from my personal personality problems (:D).....WHY, I ask again...are they going to THESE lengths for this woman? Did they think all this stuff wasn't going to eventually leak out in bits and pieces like this? WHO, in their right mind, is thinking they can still promote this woman as the nicest and most motherly person on the planet? The role-model for all mothers?
I'm sorry, I KNOW she's bringing in the money right now...but I still don't get it. WHY, WHY, WHY is a corporation this size going to THIS much trouble for this ONE woman? Nothing yet has come close to explaining this for me.
I am a disabled stay-home person,alone,with small dogs,so I get to see alot, with no distractions,I scrutinized to see any kids,there were a couple, but not kate's.No, I do not just read about kate all day out here! Just first thing every morning,to see what her day will be like!lol,lol,lol.
Kate not having sex since January 09? That's about 6 months before she filed for divorce so I don't find that unusual at all. Am I missing something?
Why did Barbara Walters make her one of the 10 most interesting people of 2009? Why did she get to guest host "The View" with no experience OR talent? I am sure that TLC bought her for her dysfunction...why did ABC buy her? Is this a modern day Pygmalion experiment (Google "My Fair Lady" with Audrey Hepburn)? Take your average American housewife and turn her into media gold? I don't think it will work in the long run, because of her dysfunction.
I also wonder if Jon is on the payroll to BE trashed by Kate. It is a way to make a buck.
dee3 said...
"Wisconsin Garden Chick~
You've made a really EXCELLENT point....and one I'd not really focused on. That this huge conspiracy of silence and what seems so impossible to explain about this entire debacle is.....that this is basically a huge cover-up and that they are trying to prevent a huge lawsuit BY Jon and Kate....so they divided and separated. You are so right here. AND they have separated them from a whole lot of others too, including their own family (Jodie, Kevin, etc.)"
Here is Preesi saying two days ago virtually the same thing I posted today. (Just now saw it). But I'm sure I got some of these ideas on another blog, back when Jon stopped the show and the divorce stuff was going on.
Preesi:
TLC Is Keeping Kate Busy So She Doesnt Sue Them
TLC is just stringing her along till her contract is out.
They need to keep her and Jon pitted against each other and separate cause if they stopped fighting and sat down and talked they COULD band together to sue TLC/Discovery Communications for millions for DESTROYING their family, Labor violations, filming their kids naked etc.
So TLC keeps Kate delusional so she will think they are on her side so she wont sue them.
Jon and Kate made 2.5 million from the show
TLC made $200 MILLION off J&K
Jon and Kate have an EXCELLENT case to sue TLC, and thats what TLC has to avoid at all costs.
http://preesi.lefora.com/2010/04/19/tlc-is-keeping-kate-busy-so-she-doesnt-sue-them/
Pap Smear.
I think Kelly owes me a new keyboard.
I could not agree MORE with TLC just stringing Kate along. As long as she keeps making them money it pays to string her along, keep her happy, and prevent a lawsuit. They will very slowly and carefully sever the relationship keeping her happy the whole time, when the time comes where she is of no use to them.
If Kate were to EVER wise up she would see there is a lot more money to be had suing TLC then embarrassing herself on DWTS for 50k an episode.
I think "they" destroyed Jon, and they still have him by the privates. Not one person in the media has asked hard questions to Kate, but they crucify Jon. Why hasn't one person in an interview question it when Kate throws around innuendos? Someone is being protected at all costs even if it means destroying someone else. The problem as I see it, is that the man they have destroyed is the father of these children. He is a good father,I really don't think that has ever been in question. Instead we are reading about the size of his privates, him cheating on Kate and causing the divorce, him bein a deadbeat and not paying support. Come on I want 1 major network to step up and do some research and then set the record straight. Unfortunately it will never happen because someone somewhere is protecting Miss Kate
Does anyone know where the disgarded Kart is today? I read somewhere she was going to be on Kelly and Regis tomorrow. Don't know if it's even true, but I can't picture her going home and baking cookies right now.
The only way we'll know that the disgarded Kart is really in trouble is if we DO see her spend any significant amount of time at home being a mom.
"TLC is just stringing her along till her contract is out." (that WGC posted from preesi's site)
Administrator and Wisconsin Garden Chick~
Couldn't Kate still sue them after the contract runs out? What type of statute of limitations would be involved here?
There are indeed SO many aspects/features of this hypothesis that make a great deal of sense to me and really do explain many of my unanswered questions.
Also, once Jon's contract runs out, couldn't HE sue TLC for this exact thing? Or...why didn't he threaten them with this during the prior contract dispute he had with them?
What would be their possible long-term plan to keep Kate and Jon from telling the real truth and from suing them over this and how long would they have to worry about them doing this?
From my perspective, there has to be some really BIG reason for why they've gone to the lengths they have in this situation. And this hypothesis seems to me to be a really good one to consider.
IT factor and IMO
Could someone tell me what those two words mean?
I don't know any abreviation in English :(
"Why has every single one of them refused to say a word, apparently?"
I'm not totally sure, but I think I might have been the one (or one of the ones) who asked this question.
And I'd not meant people like Beth....I'd meant peripherally involved people...VERY peripherally involved...like household employees, employees on the sets of all the shows she's been interviewed on....all the "little people" who have interacted with her for one reason or another (waited on her in a restaurant, a make-up person, a lighting guy, etc.). People like that.
There's got to be hundreds and hundreds yet not until now are tiny leaks getting out. Why?
And as an aside...I totally agree on the issue of Beth not talking. This is a woman with total class. A true role-model of a person who would not want to hurt the children.
French Canadian~
IMO..."in my opinion"
IT factor...this is a phrase used to mean "that certain something that someone has". Saying that a person needs to have the "IT factor" means that the person needs to have that certain something or that certain quality that would make them stand out in a crowd.
Hope that made sense.
Okay, excuse me for being ignorant but WHY are we discussing Jon and Kate suing TLC?????
No matter what a monster and a money grab TLC has been throughout this fiasco, Jon and Kate went willing and had no qualms about doing the show, pimping the kids, outing their own faults and collected a check.
The talk about Jon and Kate suing TLC is as ridiculous as a teenager paying an adult to buy him a six pack and then suing the adult when the teenager gets in an accident.
Jon and Kate both went willingly into this foray to fame. They did it for 5...Count them, 5 seasons. There is no legal ground for Jon and Kate to sue TLC for anything. They lived large, collected the checks, pimped the kids, continued to put themselves out there for the press and still, to this day, prey on the press.
Jon or Kate, suing TLC would be a frivilous lawsuit and a laughing stock. Jon and Kate's claim for damages would be as valid as a hooker suing a john because he offered cash and she gave it up. Jon and Kate have no claim and if they did sue TLC, I'm pretty certain that TLC would release cutting room tape of what a totally disfunctional family they were during this scam of a television show.
TLC has nothing to worry about in a court of law. Jon and Kate have everything to worry about in a court of public opinion.
Also, every single segment of her being interviewed or talked to on that show is completely scripted. Nothing spontaneous whatsoever. We should probably assume this is true of Kate and her media team on whatever media outlet they are on. There were rules regarding what verbage one could use when interviewing her - no refrences to any of the children by name, Jon by name, the old show, and of course TLC. By doing this they are severing her image from the past and pushing her forward relabeled in vague terms like "America's favorite mom" or "single, working mom", etc.
If this is true from the GWOP post then it's probably why no one asks the hard questions. Since Kate's a hot commodity right now I'm guessing there are rules up front before she's booked on a show.
dee,
I'm guessing people are not speaking up because they've seen what happens when people do. Look at admin. She goes to a book signing, reports her experience, and it sounds as if now she's getting threats, or at the very least nasty blog posts. Kendra made the mistake of saying on a talk show that she would never put her child on a reality show after preschool age and for some reason she had to qualify her statement as not a reflection on Kate. And the list goes on. The TV industry seems to be one big conglomerate with tenacles into every aspect of programming.
French Canadian said...
IT factor and IMO
Could someone tell me what those two words mean?
I don't know any abreviation in English :(
The "IT factor" is the indescribable quality that makes something special. The "IT factor" does not have to make logical sense. (think about a really odd color that becomes fashionable one season, but is gone the very next season)
IMO is an abbreviation for "in my opinion".
Hope that helps!!
GKway - Definitely gotta love the Canadian press!Loved the article -LMAO
Dee 3: I think there have been plenty of people who have come forward with stories of Kate. I have read hundreds of articles in magazines for the past year on Kate's horrible behavior, and the sources for these articles have been mostly anonymous - but they are people in the know who have talked! Plus many of her employees have signed confidentiality agreements, so they cannot be expected to make the media rounds.
US Mag and the Enquirer especially have been dogged in chronicling all of Kate's drama. There have been a few blog posts of those 'in the know' as well..if you choose to believe those. (Like the one discussed above from Disney guy who sounds credible). What's more incredible is there has been nothing, even in People mag, not even a HINT that Kate is a nice person, no stories of those coming forward with a real , genuine interaction or relationship with her.
dee3 said...
koopdedoo said...
Thank you very much!
Hey gang,
I'm heading for the sack right now. Have a biopsy test tomorrow that I haven't studied for but it is what it is. I'm hoping that the results are negative. As I write this, I'm listening to a song from Five For Fighting called Chances.
The lyrics and the tune are great and were featured in the Sandra Bullock movie "Blind Side".
Chances are when said and done
Who'll be the lucky ones
Who make it all the way?
Though you say I could be your answer
Nothing lasts forever
No matter how it feels today"
A great song, an even better movie and a wake up call that chances are, we won't live forever. Chins up, and just hope for the best.
Kelly
Dee3 said...
See, I agree with you in concept. But what were they selling? Year after year to media outlets, other networks, new agencies, etc.? The role-model mother?
In other words, WHAT did they see, including the good and the bad, that made her seem hugely profitable?
Don't get me wrong.....she WAS indeed a goldmine. But what was such a goldmine about her that made her worth taking such big risks for? I mean, at first, I thought it was the children. Now YES, the children were a HUGE goldmine for them....But her...what was the goldmine? The role-model mother? Or the train-wreck?
You and I agree, Dee3.
Both mother and train-wreck are correct. I think it's all of the above and the goldmine has become 'Kate Gosselin'.
In the beginning I think they were trying to sell a loving, caring, harried, hands-on mom of 8, but then saw her sharp tongue, watched her order Jon around and exploited that and then everything else they saw. They exploited the very things the blogs were going wild about. What are they selling now? HER - whatever that is!
I think the reason we don't understand what/why people pay big money for her is because we don't see any talent or logical reason for her-the phenomenon called Kate Gosselin to be in everyone's face daily. Heck, you and I wouldn't pay money for her, but television/advertising is a strange beast and IMO, it's unfortunate that ugly trainwrecks sell. She's a prime example of people tuning in to watch someone who has no talent make a fool out of herself. Strange behavior isn't it? But we were a part of the audience that tuned in to watch her fail and because we tuned in (as well as millions of others), ABC made LOTS of money and that money trickled down to TLC and then because of the way advertising/tv works that is in turn translated into success. You and I saw her fail miserably, but for TV and ad people, it was a successful collaboration.
She expressed interest, dropping hint after hint, in having a career as a star (I didn't say as an actor or co-host because I think her career aspiration is nothing more than just to be a star) and because she's a hot commodity they're running with everything that's dropped in their lap. It's about money. As long as she brings in ratings they're happy because HUGE ratings mean HUGE money. I think it's sad that our culture is drawn to watch something as appalling as her dances and listen to her contradictions and lies and the way she exploits her children, but we do. It's 2010 and this is what we are about. Does that mean I don't tune in or that I don't read the press she gets? No.
I do wonder how they'll handle the bad press and opinion pieces that have been written about her. Will they change tactics? I don't thinks so - why fix something that isn't broken. In television, the shows run until advertisers stop paying to make them. The goldmine has become her, Kate Gosselin, their polarizing moneymaker, defying all logic, with no talent other than to create controversy.
IMO, she's given them more than a few headaches with her never-ending contradictory statements and I wonder if they'll do some work to refine/redefine their product and we'll see her script much tighter.
Dee3 said...
Here's what I think (and I'm just totally winging it here)....I think it was a FLUKE. It was the strange and coincidental result of a show that became an overnight success for a cable channel, due mainly to the adorable children involved. Then the annoying yet interesting personality of the mother ramped up the ratings....and then for some unknown reason, TLC threw all of their power and influence behind her...and she became an extremely polarizing TV personality, catching the attention of the internet and becoming the focus of a huge blogging community, complete with blog wars...and this took on a life of its own...and from there, she became the woman that a certain segment of the population loved and the rest of the critical-thinking population loved to hate.
A fluke. College classes will study the phenomenon in the future, I predict.
Exactly! That is the goldmine. The fluke, known as the Kate Gosselin factor, is the goldmine.
"She is ready for a break now. She can't wait to get home and put on sneakers and go back to being ...... "She will have a short break before she begins working on her new TLC show and she needs some down time with the children.
~~~
Has anyone looked at her book tour schedule at Preesi's site? More 'writers' believing what the lies. It doesn't sound like Kate will be home the rest of this month, at least. Haven't see the May schedule. Anyone?
prairie mary,
thanks for the tip from GWOP! V.interesting!
French Canadian,
you could also say that the "it" factor is the 'je ne sais quoi' that someone has that makes them special.
I have been busy the past few days and am only now catching up on all these posts.
And coming in at the end as I am, I have to say I think you are all so smart to have put all the pieces together about TLC and the Gosselins.
But I am just so shocked (and appalled) that TLC could have so much power that they are able to keep everyone in line. How they are able to get people to retract seemingly innocent comments because it might make the Kart look bad.
It is a frightening thought that they are wielding their power so blatantly. Truly afraid.
And what about our brave admin? I hope TLC's arm doesn't reach that far...
Jon & Kate Gosselin: Child labour ruling orders money set aside for the kids
http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Kate+Gosselin+Child+labour+ruling+orders+money+aside+kids/2934340/story.html
Dee3 said...
I'm sorry, I KNOW she's bringing in the money right now...but I still don't get it. WHY, WHY, WHY is a corporation this size going to THIS much trouble for this ONE woman? Nothing yet has come close to explaining this for me.
I would imagine she's caused them quite a few headaches, but thats you and me thinking that. Their thinking may be that any press is good press, idk. The only way we'll know is if or when she sticks to just one script rather than reading from them all.
Hey Kelly,
Good luck tomorrow and sending good thoughts your way. Let us know, okay?
CJ said...
Think of this as "the Perfect Storm"
~~~
CJ, exactly! And I agree w/the above poster who said college classes (PR/marketing) will be studying this phenomenom for years to come.
Kelly - I'll be sending good thoughts your way tomorrow for the biopsy. Please post and let us know how it went.
Dee3 said...
Here's what I think (and I'm just totally winging it here)....I think it was a FLUKE. It was the strange and coincidental result of a show that became an overnight success for a cable channel, due mainly to the adorable children involved. Then the annoying yet interesting personality of the mother ramped up the ratings....and then for some unknown reason, TLC threw all of their power and influence behind her...and she became an extremely polarizing TV personality, catching the attention of the internet and becoming the focus of a huge blogging community, complete with blog wars...and this took on a life of its own...and from there, she became the woman that a certain segment of the population loved and the rest of the critical-thinking population loved to hate.
A fluke. College classes will study the phenomenon in the future, I predict.
I couldn't agree more and they are riding the wave as far as they can. When it's over, they'll drop her hard and fast.
Kelly,
I'm wishing you well for your biopsy tomorrow. I hope it's nothing serious.
As to the "it" factor that FC asked about earlier? I always understood it to be a magical quality that can't be described, but draws you to a certain person. In Kart's case, it must be black magic?
A lot of people refer to Preesi's site? What is it?
Carolina Gal,
The book tour schedule is from 2009.
OK, I went over to Preesi's site to read the part about this being a huge, organized effort to prevent Jon and Kate from suing TLC.
And she'd posted something that did kinda answer one of the questions I'd been wondering about:
"Sure but the more she stays in bed with TLC and goes along with everthing the less of a case she has." (my question relating to couldn't they sue TLC after the contracts are up).
Kelly~
I'm not a legal professional in any way but I was assuming that this hypothesis was based on the fact that Jon and Kate had signed the initial contracts without a lawyer representing them. And therefore, this was a scenario where a big corporation had taken advantage of a pair of rubes....and that this could possibly give them the ability to sue due to lack of appropriate legal representation.
Like I said, I'm no legal expert...but wouldn't this be like the police questioning someone without a lawyer present? I'm not totally sure myself.
Jon and Kate would also be privy to all sorts of info TLC may not want them to reveal.
Also there may be issues like this question of whether the TLC camera crew and staff had been background checked...that I'd imagine J&K could claim they'd had no knowledge of and had assumed all TLC staff were safe to trust their children with.
I don't know enough to be able to say whether or not a lawsuit brought by J&K is even possible...or if this could be something TLC is trying to avoid at all costs..........in order to explain WHY TLC has gone to SO much trouble to promote and to protect Kate.
All I can say is that there has to be SOME serious explanation for this. And I've felt this way for a very long time. The extent to which TLC has gone to protect Kate, to control information and to maintain a certain facade is SO extreme, IMO....that SOMETHING has to be responsible for this. There was/is either something interpersonal going on behind the scenes or there is some huge secret they are trying to hide or some huge risk they are trying to avoid. I just can't figure out which one it is. But it's definitely something. I just KNOW it.
Kelly-
Sending you good thoughts for tomr.
Kelly,
sending good ju'ju's your way for tmro!
GKWay,
I just read that article from the Montreal paper. Hilarious, dead on analysis!
The opening line had me ROFL...
"Before you even start with the "This is news?!" comments, let's get it out of the way early: Dancing With the Stars breakdowns are not news. They're just not. They're opportunities to revel in the misery of Kate Gosselin."
I agree with your comments, bbsak, and would take it a step further in that not only is TLC exploitating Kate, they are also exploitating the children. It's all part of the same package because without the children, Kate is nothing. And I think that's what makes this such a volatile story.
Yes, people watched DWTS without the kids, but that was a short stint compared to a weekly reality show. And we certainly heard about the kids almost every time Kate opened her mouth because they are her gimmick. She has nothing else. If this were only about Kate, I could care less what she does.
I would guess for the most part it's the children that Kate fans want to see. And for many of us, that's absolutely the worst thing that could happen to them. And therein lies the major conflict and the polarizing factor in this whole saga. JMO.
Just got back from BM's side,found out that kate was out to dinner,a fancy place,fancy chef cooked,for a bunch from DWTS, they all love her soo much. So I guess she first tucked her kids into their fancy hotel beds,read to them, kissed them goodnight-then went out?! Yeah,right,she can't wait to go home and be a mom again!! Some of them over at that side were hoping she would get matched up so cute with Aiden, until one of them said he was married.I think they will be finding all kinds of men to match her up with,they sure do love her, can't be very great moms themselves if they think kate is such a great one.JMO. Good luck tomorrow,funny kelly! Goodnight all.
Kelly~Good luck tomorrow and I hope everything turns out fine. Will be thinking of you.
Carolina Gal~That was my fault. I copied and pasted a book tour that was from last year (that I'd gotten from Preesi's site) and as far as I know, there is no book tour schedule available for this year yet. At least I've not seen one anywhere.
bbsak~Your entire post was fantastic but I love this one paragraph especially:
"I do wonder how they'll handle the bad press and opinion pieces that have been written about her. Will they change tactics? I don't thinks so - why fix something that isn't broken. In television, the shows run until advertisers stop paying to make them. The goldmine has become her, Kate Gosselin, their polarizing moneymaker, defying all logic, with no talent other than to create controversy."
This was an additional issue I couldn't figure out...had they planned (in their long-term grand plan) for what they would do if the tide turned and people began to dislike her in huge numbers(?).
It does truly boggle the mind but the consensus here (which is totally making sense to me) seems to be that this has been, for the most part, a fluke. And TLC has gone along for the ride, as long as the money kept rolling in.
Because really, when you think about it, there is so much about this whole thing nobody could have reasonably predicted. The whole blogosphere sensation, for one thing. The mutations were almost dizzying. They started with this happy, happy family...morphed to family with shrewish mother (but the shrewishness increased ratings)...then morphed to the sudden tabloids with Jon's women and then the big divorce announcement (which they milked for all it was worth, the poor children be damned)...and suddenly Kate herself was a tabloid sensation...and the blogosphere caught fire and blog wars ensued....and meanwhile, money was pouring in thanks to both the fans and the non-fans. In this sudden bizarro world, a not like-able woman, with no apparent talent, had become the hottest topic on all the celebrity websites and everyone was talking about her.
BUT....now we have this DWTS disaster, a new book that is not selling well and being panned, a state investigation, a custody suit looming and the sudden appearance of articles everywhere that are not complimentary to Kate....SO many that it actually does look like the tide may be turning and that she's finally worn out her welcome with the American public. And there are two shows on the horizon....already committed to.
WHAT will happen? How will TLC turn this around and fix this?
And just how far WILL they go to turn this around? Maybe THAT will give us some indication of just HOW much they have to hide....and that they've been desperate to hide all along.
I sure hope so. Because I just feel it so strongly....that there is SOMETHING behind this. And it's not just ratings and money. There is something even shadier back there...I can just feel it. And I've felt it from way back...and it's never gone away. They've just gone way too far and crossed way too many lines to protect this one woman.
Okay,now I am going to have crazy nightmares!Read one last item which is talking about making kate the next Bachelorette!
I just went to Disneyland with my handicapped niece. We were escorted to the front of the line on every ride she chose and we didn't have to wait our turn! It was the same when we went 3 years ago.
Anonymous,
I'm sorry your niece is handicapped. Fortunately, her handicap is physical?
The Gosselin kids are, and will, deal with an emotional handicap for the rest of there lives.
Another question for all, I wonder if Murt has contacted Beth Carson?
prairiemary said...
Just got back from BM's side,found out that kate was out to dinner,a fancy place,fancy chef cooked,for a bunch from DWTS, they all love her soo much.
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The article on Eonline repeated at BM's site was confusing. The first part mentions Evan, Erin, Maks, and Anna going to Madeo LAST Night.
The second part talks about a dinner after Kate's last dance MONDAY night. That dinner where most of the cast went to was for Aiden Turner's birthday. I read a report about it yesterday and saw pics.
The cast is very gracious and under contract to DWTs so even if they don't like someone they will say they support them. Not saying Kate but anyone they would say they were supportive. I felt the fact that none came down for a group hug Tom B. mentioned spoke volumes.
Dee3said...
Here's what I think (and I'm just totally winging it here)....I think it was a FLUKE. It was the strange and coincidental result of a show that became an overnight success for a cable channel, due mainly to the adorable children involved. Then the annoying yet interesting personality of the mother ramped up the ratings....and then for some unknown reason, TLC threw all of their power and influence behind her...and she became an extremely polarizing TV personality, catching the attention of the internet and becoming the focus of a huge blogging community, complete with blog wars...and this took on a life of its own...and from there, she became the woman that a certain segment of the population loved and the rest of the critical-thinking population loved to hate.
A fluke. College classes will study the phenomenon in the future, I predict.
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I have never been married and I have no children. If God wanted me to have my own kids he would have put a man in my path. I will be 54 years old on May 10th. Yes I remember hearing about the tups being born on my bday even though I live in CA.
Next thing I know they (my birthday babies) are on my TV. I'm impressed at all the chaos. Even if I am not a mom I watched the show. Then just like everyone else on this blog, one day something just did not smell right so I google "Gosselin" and find GWOP. I discover I am not alone.
Even when Bobby Sherman and David Cassidy were the IT guys, at 16 I was not into them. OK, I liked cowboys way back when (I really do know Ty Murray from DWTS season 8) but still I did not go crazy over the IT boys in TIGER BEAT.
My point is even during the teenybopper frenzy period I was not as absorbed in these guys at 16 as I am with Katezilla at 54. Why is that? Does the Internet add to the frenzy? Or is it simply that we are all just more informed?
Re the blog wars: How can people who watch the same episode be polar opposites regarding what they just saw on their TV? Seriously, why does Kate have lovers and haters that are miles apart in their point of views? For example, how can leaving a sick child on a floor be considered acceptable by anyone regardless of whether or not they are a parent?
I am at a loss as to why people on Kate's fan site believe she is the perfect mother. I don't get it, and I never will.
For that matter I'm still at a loss as to how I can - for the lack of a better word - hate someone I have never met. Kate fires me up. Why is that?
A fluke, eh? I agree that college classes will be dissecting this blogosphere phenonmen for years. In fact I hope they do because at 54 I'm truly at a loss as to why this person who cannot act, sing or dance but can be abusive, manipulative, bitchy to her family and friends and does not have a problem in exploiting her own children for fame and fortune has got me so riled up!
I have a life. I might even get married this year. I'm an educated woman and it was not too long ago that I worked with celebrities so I'm not a pushover when it comes to "stars". In fact just the other day a 21 yr old girl told me she met George Strait's son and I laughed and then just had to tell her that I've met daddy. Now I could continue to name drop here but my point is none of these celebrities ever made me speechless even though some of them are drop dead gorgeous and/or they are big time stars. Most definitely more than a podunk reality TV star (cough cough).
All this being said, I seriously wonder what I would say to Kate if ever we were to meet. I know I would not refrain from speaking to her because after all she does put herself out there as a pubic figure ... well, no doubt I would meet Steve whether I wanted to or not, just like our Admin :)
TeamPam! said...
Kate not having sex since January 09? That's about 6 months before she filed for divorce so I don't find that unusual at all. Am I missing something?
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Someone asked Jon about when he and Kate last had sex and he said the last time he was with Kate was in August. I assumed this was when they were in Hawaii.
If Kate had sex in Jan 09 I wonder with who?
Dee3 - not only do I agree with everything you've written, but I think you're probably the best writer I've seen on any of these sites!
The more I see of Kate on TV or in print (either being interviewed or commented on) the more afraid I am that she'll NEVER go away. She seems to be more and more legitimized with each appearance and hobnobbing with all the REAL celebrities is only feeding her ego. And there are more and more people defending her each time - her act seems to be working. :-(
If you go on DWTS site / Shorts videos / Backstage week 4 ....Tony's brother says that Kate has to go.
I read at a fan site how "excited" they are for Kart's 2 shows to begin -- most especially they wish the Kart plus 8 was not just specials but was to be a weekly show--they miss the kids soooooo much. These type of comments I find very troubling. These children are not commodities to be used for people's viewing pleasure. That type of thinking is not just totally exploitative but simply OFF.
I bet that Kart will pay a visit to see Ted and get her hair extensions fixed up this week.
Amazon has her book at #392 :)
Forgot to post this BAD NEWS:
Werny Galposted tht she has heard that the dogs have returned to the orphanage. I feel a lot of anger and sorrow about this.
When Kart forced Jon to "get rid of them" (the doggies)last fall, I had assumed that they had found their loving forever home. A few months ago when Kart announced that the dogs would be coming back I was crushed. To find out that they have been at the breeder's kennel all of these months is just horrible.
OMG! Just got these tweets from Jon... Is he kidding??? I mean it's great he wants to work things out but he's going up against Kate AND her ATTORNEYS without his own attorney. What an idiot. We'll probably hear from him six months from now that he wants to change custody because he didn't have an attorney present. (Start from the bottom up):
jongosselin1 Kate, her attorneys and I are moving forward to work out things privately and amicably.
18 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet jongosselin1 He has no legal right to speak to the press or anyone on my behalf.
18 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet jongosselin1 Mr. Anthony List Sr., Esq. is not my representing attorney; I terminated him on April 15, 2010.
File under WTF?!
Jon Gosselin has taken to Twitter to refute an interview his lawyer gave to TMZ:
Gosselin tweeted:
Mr. Anthony List Sr., Esq. is not my representing attorney; I terminated him on April 15, 2010..
He has no legal right to speak to the press or anyone on my behalf.
Kate, her attorneys and I are moving forward to work out things privately and amicably.
Previously, from TMZ:
Jon's lawyer, Anthony List, tells TMZ, "'Dancing with the Stars' is just the tip of the iceberg for Kate, as surely there will be many other projects to take its place soon."
List notes ... Kate has already signed on for two new shows -- both on TLC. And, he scoffs, "She's always promoting something ... and most of the time it's herself."
dee 3 said: Administrator and Wisconsin Garden Chick~
Couldn't Kate still sue them after the contract runs out? What type of statute of limitations would be involved here?
There are indeed SO many aspects/features of this hypothesis that make a great deal of sense to me and really do explain many of my unanswered questions.
Also, once Jon's contract runs out, couldn't HE sue TLC for this exact thing? Or...why didn't he threaten them with this during the prior contract dispute he had with them?
What would be their possible long-term plan to keep Kate and Jon from telling the real truth and from suing them over this and how long would they have to worry about them doing this?"
I know nothing about the law, but my point (that I didn't make well) in my first post is the potential repercussions bad publicity (should stuff come out about the Gosselin show) and/or a lawsuit would have for TLC's other shows. So much of their line-up (and profit) is shows about unusual families.
Katherine
Stupidity and greed seems to be alive and thriving in this whole mess. I hope the kids sue the pants off the whole bunch in a few years and take every last penny.
I know you won't publish this, but I hope you read it. This was written by Kate's sister on a private facebook page she shared with Kate's mother.
“All I ask is that you consider two things. One, that you are not perfect either… so there is no room for imperfect people to judge others. NONE!
Two, that she does have family that your words do hurt. You can look at the family as innocents in this situation. You are hurting innocent people. I totally agree that you can have your own opinions. But you need to keep them to yourself. Calling someone names on a public forum lacks grace, understanding, and self-control. Your words are hurtful, whether true in your opinion or not.
Let’s say you have a son or daughter. Maybe you do! Imagine if complete strangers who never met your child began to judge him or her and say outrageously hurtful things about them WHETHER OR NOT they decided to put themselves on public display by their own choosing! Attaching swear words and unkind comparisons and judgments to your child when they never got to know your child’s tender heart, charming spirit, or great sense of humor would DEVASTATE YOU, would it not?
Imagine being a daughter watching these words people choose to say so off-handedly break your own mother’s heart. I experience this everyday.
Are you seriously NOT ashamed of this?!!!
Let’s sow seeds of LOVE, ACCEPTANCE, and KINDNESS into our world. NOT seeds of judgment no matter WHAT a person, in your opinion, has done or not done to “deserve” the criticism.”
I was going to write a nice reply to amyf and MickeyMcKean (which I will do, but later) but then I saw this latest info. about Jon dropping his lawyer, Mr. List.
IMO, Mr. List was by far, the best attorney Jon had hired to date. And now he has apparently fired him because...of things he said to the press.
Now...let's stop and think. We know that Jon is not exactly a rocket scientist...not the sharpest tool in the shed...BUT....we would have to believe that either Jon is the STUPIDEST person on the planet....OR...that lots of pressure from a certain entity has been placed on Jon....in order to explain this.
So again...I ask you....WHAT in the name of God is causing TLC to go to THIS much trouble for this ONE talentless woman?
Name me ONE celebrity, actor, actress, singer, etc. that an entertainment corporation has gone to THIS much trouble to promote and to protect. Please, please try. Think of one other person who an entertainment corporation has done this for....lied, exerted undue influence, you name it.
I agree that this is about money. It's always about money when it comes to corporate America. But this is also about something else. I don't know what it is, specifically....but it's something big. There HAS to be a reason for why they are promoting and protecting THIS one woman more than anyone else, more than far more talented and valuable entertainment entities.
NOBODY stands in their way when it comes to protecting Kate...not lawyers, not state labor boards....nobody. They hire a supposed bodyguard to be with her 24/7 so nobody can get near her. WHY?
I mean, am I exaggerating here? Has anyone ever seen anything like this? This could be right out of an espionage novel. I mean, this is KATE. She can't sing, she can't act....WHY?? Somebody please give me some alternate explanation.
Regarding the twitter posts (tweets) that Jon posted this morning -- sounds 'fishy' to me. What exactly is TLC up to or what exactly is in that settlement that Jon had with them. I really think they are totally in control of everything Gosselin -- in other words, they are pulling the strings on the Kate & Jon puppets.
Kelly wrote:
"No matter what a monster and a money grab TLC has been throughout this fiasco, Jon and Kate went willing and had no qualms about doing the show, pimping the kids, outing their own faults and collected a check."
Kelly, I agree they were greedy and willing to sign the contract. HOwever, I think a case could be made that a young naïve couple were ruthlessly exploited. There was a serious imbalance of power here. Had they taken an action like that back when Jon stopped the kids’ filming and they were going through a divorce, much of the public would have been sympathetic.
But my main point is that a lawsuit or bad publicity by people talking about what went on has the potential to affect many of their other shows – which are also based on exposing the private lives of families and children. So I doubt TLC would be afraid of a J & K lawsuit on its own – but the potential of any talk or legal action affecting their other shows – a much greater impact on their bottom line. Much cheaper to keep Kate busy and thinking she’s a “star” with a “career” that risk turning her against them. JMHO.
This was article from myfoxphilly:
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/entertainment/042110-why-fans-rejected-kate-gosselin-on-dwts
Why Fans Rejected Kate Gosselin on DWTS
PHILADELPHIA - Why did TV fans reject Kate Gosselinon “Dancing With The Stars” after a huge publicity campaign? The math shows poor viewer voting did Kate in.
In the end, it may turn out that not that many Gosselin fans were voting for the Wernersville, Pa., reality TV star.
The reason Kate Gosselin was speechless after her “Dancing With The Stars” elimination was that the math was in her favor if she was near the top of the fan voting.
Gosselin has publicly said she wanted to remain on her show, and she was part of a huge publicity campaign for TLC and her new book, that coincided with “Dancing.”
She was unable to talk for a minute after the announcement.
Billy Ray Cyrus used a similar strategy to finish in 5th place on “Dancing,” when the number of high scores given to Apolo Ohno and Laila Ali threw the math off against Cyrus. Gosselin finished in 8th place.
“Dancing” picks losers based on a simple formula. It adds up each person’s share (out of 100) of the judges’ scores and total fan vote, adds the two numbers together, and picks the lowest combined score.
Kate Gosselin had 8.6% of the total judges’ score with her 15 out of 30. She just needed 1.7% more of the popular vote than Niecy Nash or Chad Ochocinco, or 3.5% more than Pamela Anderson to stay on the show.
Gosselin was in the bottom two with Anderson, meaning at best she was the fourth overall highest vote getter among fans.
In the aftermath, Gosselin will head back to Reading after her stay at the Beverly Wilshire with her children, get ready to do two TV shows for TLC, and fight ex-husband Jon Gosselin for custody of her children.
The custody hearing is set for May 25, which is also when “Dancing” wraps up.
An article regarding Jon's petition for custody:
http://www.sawfnews.com/Gossip/63573.aspx
Kate Gosselin's ouster from Dancing with the Star will not allow her to duck ex Jon Gosselin's 'absentee mother' lawsuit against her.
April 22, 2010, (Sawf News) - Kate Gosselin's ouster from Dancing with the Star will not allow her to duck ex Jon Gosselin's 'absentee mother' lawsuit against her.
Jon's lawyer, Anthony List, tells TMZ that Kate has other projects lined up that will keep her away from the kids.
"'Dancing with the Stars' is just the tip of the iceberg for Kate, as surely there will be many other projects to take its place soon," he said.
Alluding to the recent announcement that Kate will feature on two upcoming TLC project - Twist of Kate and Kate plus 8 - List added, "She's always promoting something ... and most of the time it's herself."
Jon Gosselin filed a motion on April 7 seeking full custody of their children and child support from Kate.
In his court filing, List called Kate "an absentee mom" citing her participation in the current season of DWTS, which requires her to be away in Los Angeles leaving the children behind in Pennsylvania with nannies.
The case will be heard by a Pennsylvania court on May 25.
That's it. Jon is as much of a fame whore as Kate is. If he thinks he can negotiate with them, he is blinded by the almighty dollar!
Jon is tweeting (with TLC permission I'm sure)
jongosselin1
Kate, her attorneys and I are moving forward to work out things privately and amicably.
about 2 hours ago via web
He has no legal right to speak to the press or anyone on my behalf.
about 2 hours ago via web
Mr. Anthony List Sr., Esq. is not my representing attorney; I terminated him on April 15, 2010.
about 2 hours ago via web
So, Jon fired his attorney the day after he submitted a new petition? From the Reading Eagle:
Custody is handled where the children reside. Support is filed where the defendant resides or the last house where the couple resided.
On April 8 Jon filed a petition to recalculate the amount of support ordered - $21,691 a month - and to gain custody of the children.
Kate objected, charging the complaint did not follow Berks court procedures.
A new complaint was filed April 14, providing more details about the children, such as where the twins go to school.
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=214548
Admin, There are special Disney VIP passes given to celebrities - you can find info about them all over the internet. It bums me out when people lie and then their entire comment can be not be believed. Remember the "volunteer" w the sick son in SD. Turned out to be a complete hoax...makes me wonder about "kate_in_cali"
From SG...
jongosselin1 Kate, her attorneys and I are moving forward to work out things privately and amicably.
18 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet jongosselin1 He has no legal right to speak to the press or anyone on my behalf.
18 minutes ago via web
Reply Retweet jongosselin1 Mr. Anthony List Sr., Esq. is not my representing attorney; I terminated him on April 15, 2010.
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You know I've always thought Jon got the raw deal from all this fiasco and was glad when he finally decided to get a lawyer that can do something but if the FATHER of the kids is not willing to part with the money and so-called fame and put his kids first, who are we to try and do anything for the Gosselin kids? I feel like giving up because obviously the only person in the kids corner who could have changed their circumstance for the better, is just as money hungery, fame chasing and stupid as the MOM. They don't stand a flippin' chance. Jon has to be the dumbest person I have ever heard of. Who would try and work something out with their ex and HER ATTORNEYS, without his own lawyer and trust that he will get somthing good out of it? Did he enjoy all the bashing, hate articles, inncenudos that he received from Khate, her attorneys in the last 6 months or so? I say its money that talks and he is just wanting some of the pie, forget about his children. UGH!
If the above tweet is true, then I have officially given up on Jon--what a dunderhead. I hope he's not letting himself be manipulated by TLC and Kate dangling various carrots in front of him--they'll use you again, Jon, and it'll turn around to bite you in the ass again!
He is still the kids' father, so I hope he gets more time with them, however, I think that he is looking to somehow get back on TV--for money reasons, of course.
Those poor kids, with two parents whose god is money.
Kelly, I hope your biopsy is negative. I went through that last year; everyone was sure it would be a bad outcome, but it was a good one. Good luck. And...
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS! TMZ REPORTING THAT KATE AND JON HAS FIRED HIS ATTORNEY AND KATE AND JON HAVE REACHED A PRIVATE, AMICABLE AGREEMENT. GOOD OLE' TLC.
I just tweeted Jon back with these 2 replies:
Did you not learn your lesson the first time JON? Please do not trust Kate/lawyers. Hire Anthony back & put your kids first.
do not let $$, fame cloud your judgement, your kids need you to be strong and be their FATHER, not a celebrity. rehire LIST!
The kids could certainly sue TLC when they come of age, or sooner if K & J sue or a guardian sued on their behalf. When they are 18 they're going to want to know what happened to their 8 pieces of the pie! I suppose they could even sue J & K!
Jon fired his attorney? Uh-oh, it sounds like someone waived a large sum of money under his nose to play nice with Kate.
He'll never learn until he's sitting homeless and all alone on a curb.
Here's a thought. Maybe Jon's retreat is part of a TLC-orchestrated attempt to rehabilitate his image. JK+8 was pretty dull once the couple split. Maybe they are testing the waters to see if the public would welcome a "repentent" Jon on the new specials with the kids. Kind of far-fetched, I know, but no stranger than what's happened so far!
Blackmail, anyone? Either Jon was bribed or blackmailed. Either way, I am quickly losing respect for him. List seemed to be the best thing that ever happened to him.
To say that Kate's lawyers and himself are working things out is INSANE. They are chewing him up right now.
Anonymous that posted "Kate's mother and sister's Facebook" comment.
And just how does anyone know it is for real? There are so many fake facebook accounts out there. And where is the link to the account? Why don't you provide it so we can see for ourselves?
I'm sorry but I don't believe a Facebook or Twitter account is real unless it is confirmed by that person or their reps, etc. I didn't believe Jon's was his and Hailey's was hers until Jon stated they were real on their Gosselin Family website.
"Stupidity and greed seems to be alive and thriving in this whole mess. I hope the kids sue the pants off the whole bunch in a few years and take every last penny."
itsaboutthekids - I agree, but have the feeling when the kids come of age there won't be any money left to fight over. Ma and Pa Grifter will have spent it all. (or the lawyers)
Anonymous said...
I know you won't publish this, but I hope you read it. This was written by Kate's sister on a private facebook page she shared with Kate's mother.
Hello Anonymous,
I read the comments and it's something to think about. However, you've totally discredited yourself and your sincere intent by posting a privte conversation and copying it all over the internet. How respectful is that?
Kelly,
Hope all went well!
I'm sorry but I disagree with you... If an adult buys a teenager alcohol they have done something illegal and can be sued by the teen or his parents, especially if someone is hurt by it, nevermind the fact that they would be held responsible by the law. Just not a good comparison.
I personally think it is past the point of suing TLC as far as Kate is concerned. Jon maybe, but he doesn't have the balls or the stamina to stick it out. I personally feel that TLC should be held responsible for exploiting the family once they started having marital problems and then during the divorce. There's always the kids... they may sue TLC one day....
itsaboutthekids,
Did you see the facebook page or just the copy and paste?
SchmeckyGirl,
I read some either very similar or the same, nearly to two years ago. Although I remember it being on a blog for artists. It was Kate's sister the jewelry artist saying it. I didn't see the posting that sent her off but just going to the blog I felt like I invaded her space (I never posted), and never went back over there. She doesn't deserve criticism from any of us.
FYI--I am not the same Anonymous who posted about Facebook. I detest Facebook, am not on Facebook, never look at Facebook, and would never post a private conversation. I did make the post about reading Kate, Jon and TLC have reached a private, amicable agreement. I just read what I posted and am embarrassed that I didn't proof it before sending. I am degreed, and it sounded like an illiterate person made that post.
Is what I'm reading true? According to TMZ and Katedar, Jon dropped his custody case? WTH?
You know what? I'm done with this whole Gosselin saga. It's revolting, disgusting and sick. As Mary Matalin said on CNN last night, let's just "pray for the children".
Custody is handled where the children reside. Support is filed where the defendant resides or the last house where the couple resided.
On April 8 Jon filed a petition to recalculate the amount of support ordered - $21,691 a month - and to gain custody of the children.
Kate objected, charging the complaint did not follow Berks court procedures.
A new complaint was filed April 14, providing more details about the children, such as where the twins go to school.
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=214548
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"A new complaint was filed April 14, providing more details about the children, such as where the twins go to school."
I don't understand this comment. Complaint filed by Jon? Kate? Complaint about what? And how does the school location fit into it? Also, I thought all eight kids went to the same school. Is anyone else confused?
dee3,
I think only time will tell about TLC and Kate. Her new show may bomb. I can't see it being a hit like Jon and Kate Plus 8 was.
If her non-fans don't watch it, even for the trainwreck factor or curiosity factor, then she won't get the ratings they need to continue. IMO.
I do not plan to watch her new show. At least not on TLC and not when the ratings count!
I don't see how Kate's new show will do well if Jon and Kate plus 8 did so poorly at the end when it was just the Kate show. I think most average viewers were turned off by her pity party and complaining on DWTS.
That court battle...Could it be to put drama in her life the time she was on DWTS? I would not be surprise.
As the children get older, their poor manners and tantrums become far less tolerable. I don't think the Kate Plus 8 show will be nearly as popular as TLC is anticipating.
The Twist of Kate show just sounds stupid to me, I don't understand what Kart has to offer in the way of advice to anyone.
So, what's up with this? Why is TLC protecting and promoting Kart with such vigor? I'm missing something here, it's not adding up.
Happy Earth Day everybody! If you need a laugh,go to "page six", at the New York Post, funny pics of kate's I-heart-u, with her fat tunge hanging out!
THERE'S A NEW POST UP!!!!!!!!!!!
Schmecky Girl
It's legit. I read the website myself complete with private family pictures the Kreiders new house and granchildren back in 2008. IIRC it was clarrisa. She has since made her site private.
Schmeck Girl
The post is legit. This was taken from a blogsite one of Kate's sister had. IIRC it was Clarrisa. She is the one in PA. The gist was Clarrisa was being forced by Kate to choose between her and her parents. Clarrisa stayed with the parents. There were family pictures including the new house the parents had. A short while later the blogsite was closed.
my9cats,
Thank you! I get what you're saying. I just don't understand how pictures and stories can prove an account is legit. Was it linked to a legit site? I've seen some pretty good fakes and I just wonder how it was confirmed as legit that long ago. It doesn't really matter anyway... I don't care if Kate's mother or sister support her or not at this point.
Question,
So where did IW get that post from? Is it old? Is there a FB account still up? I couldn't find one. I'm not questioning IW... I'm questioning the FB account, but whatever.
Schmecky Girl,
It was long ago. 2008 when I first wanted to learn more about KON. At the time I was nursing a broken collarbone and pneumonia. It was not on FB. It definately was (I think Clarrisa or was it Kendra?))her blogsite. She is quite 'intense' about her faith. IIRC she discussed the conflict, her child, husband, described a mushroom hunting excursion with her parents and her child (son?). Remember this was before all the crap came out. I have no reason to doubt it was her site. Certain things stayed in my memory. You could sense the anguish she was in over staying with parents and not seeing the kids anymore. Maybe she updated the post herself and put it out, I don't know. All I know was stumbling on it and being shocked. It verified my feelings that all was not as it seemed in the first house and E-town. There was also a post in the Reading Eagle archives around the time Kate was demanding an extention of the free nurse signed Kevin and Kendra (sibs). A very interesting read.
I just tweeted Jon back with these 2 replies:
Did you not learn your lesson the first time JON? Please do not trust Kate/lawyers. Hire Anthony back & put your kids first.
do not let $$, fame cloud your judgement, your kids need you to be strong and be their FATHER, not a celebrity. rehire LIST!
Pap Smear.
I think Kelly owes me a new keyboard.
Kate not having sex since January 09? That's about 6 months before she filed for divorce so I don't find that unusual at all. Am I missing something?
Gkway,
Great info there. Thanks
ADMIN: Please disregard my first email...
Here is the post from GWOP as per Prairemary's comment: Sorry about that!
kate_in_cali said...
Re: the Gosselins cutting to the front of the lines @ Disney had nothing to do with their security and EVERYTHING to do with entitlement. My brother works there in management and acts as a host to VIPS when they come to the park. He's spent the day there with Sir Paul McCartney, Hugh Jackman, Christina Aguilera and guess what? They ALL STAND IN LINE per Disney's policy. Not to say there aren't other behind the scenes perks that they do get, but line cutting is not one of them. The only people who get preferrential treatment when it comes to the rides are people with disabilities - there is a different area for them to line up for the ride, but they do still have to wait their turns as well. I asked my brother if he had seen the Gs this weekend as he worked as well and he didn't. When I mentioned that they had been booed because they were cutting in on all the rides he said wow, she must've demanded that because otherwise that is not something they would normally do even for VIPs.
The other interesting tidbit is since ABC is owned by Disney my bro has two friends who are PAs over on the DWTS set. Her nickname there is "angry Kate" and pretty much the rule is that when the cameras are off, do not approach or talk to her. The reports of her being late to hair and make up were completly true and even AFTER being given a talking to from the show's producer her behavior in that regard did not change. Also, every single segment of her being interviewed or talked to on that show is completely scripted. Nothing spontaneous whatsoever. We should probably assume this is true of Kate and her media team on whatever media outlet they are on. There were rules regarding what verbage one could use when interviewing her - no refrences to any of the children by name, Jon by name, the old show, and of course TLC. By doing this they are severing her image from the past and pushing her forward relabeled in vague terms like "America's favorite mom" or "single, working mom", etc. My brother also confirmed to me that there was a contract between TLC and ABC for keeping Kate on for a certain number of shows and placing her in a positive light. Of course, the only thing that didn't work with that is Kate herself. You'll notice that her rehearsal segments were really short because just like with Jon when they used to do the show, they couldn't get good footage because of her attitude.
Interesting. We all knew/guessed this stuff from the get go, but it's kind of nice to hear from real people in the know that we're right. The real disappointment is seeing the corporate greed and what they will try to pull over on the public and what they will ruin on their way to get there.
Prairemary,
I was in Charleston SC on Friday, on my way to Jekyll Island GA for the weekend so I missed your comment on Friday. I do have to tell you that I'm a guy and not a girl but don't let that make ya run for the hills. I'm 100 percent practicing heterosexual and my girlfriend approves of this message.
Kate wears sneakers when she doesn't call the Paps for the latest Pap Smear, to tell them she's going to Fed EX or Starbucks.
As bossy as Kate is, I wouldn't be surprised if she wears boxer shorts. After all, she's Kate.
Yep--like Dude Ranch in 3 in heels and air balloons in 4 in heels etc etc etc- only time she is in anything close to sneekers is when there are pics of her in running shoes, walking with Jamie last summer.
Virginia Pen Mom said...
Some speculated Kate knew beforehand that she was going home. Here's a quote from her on Good Morning America today. It sounds as if it wasn't the "gut" feeling she described last night--but that she knew for CERTAIN she was not coming back.
"[The kids] don't even know yet, actually. They were asleep by the time I got back last night, so I'll tell them this morning. I did not allow them to watch the show last night, because obviously I'm out here, and I already knew. They're out here with me. And so I will tell them today."
It's not a vast conspiracy. The show does not air live on the west coast. Therefore, since the children were in Los Angeles, Kate would have known she had been voted off before the show aired locally.
Nancy B,
I watched that video of Kate being driven away and I actually channeled her for a few minutes. After those few minutes of channeling her, I actually fell in love with myself. I had this insatiable urge to cackle like a witch and went to my front door, looking for little people outside that I could smack around for a few minutes.
What I also noticed in watching that video was the sour puss look on Kates face as she sat in the back of a lowly GMC SUV and not her typical mode of transportation, a Lincoln Town Car or a stretch limo. I also didn't notice any of the kids unless they were being towed behind the SUV in a clown car. Also absent were the tinted windows and a few flags on the front fenders.
Kelly are you sure you are not really a retiree from the Jay Leno show. Please share the Al~Kata with Z. He will love it.
Pat Robertson has spouted some pretty horrid accusations see: Haiti. I think it's perfect in keeping with his insanity to have Kate on his show.
(for the record: I'm a Jesus follower)
bbsak. Yes, you are right Kate did that 700 club interview in the midst of a crumbling marriage. My pastor is against tv evangelists. Well, he is against tv too. And, if you think about it the christian circuit made Kate a pretty penny in its day.
Well, rumor has it that we may be seeing Kate sooner than we think selling those books from her Wernersville garage. Carol Burnett released "This time together" Last week. Guess what? New York Times bestseller rank #4.
For all Kate's spin/twist tour last week all she has now is a failed book signing & a ticket back to Wernersville. The orphanage gets the Head village idiot back.
The 700 club is using Kate hoping that someone HUMAN will tune in that channel and actually watch. I'd rather watch a video on "How to clean a barbecue grill" than anything on the 700 club network.
Pat Robertson is an absolute 130 proof idiot that claims Haiti had an earthquake because no one there was christian. I wouldn't waste a keystroke by sending them an email protesting Kate Gosselin on their program. No one watches anyway but a handful of 80 year old blue hairs, sitting on a potty seat waiting for someone to clean them up.
dee3,
Thanks for so eloquently and succinctly putting your finger on, and what I've long believed to be, the pulse of all things Take Greedslin.
"(and may still be happening)" may be the real reason behind the unbelievable self-imposed isolation of and estrangment from anyone who gets too close for comfort.
Imo, whatever "it" is, it began long before the end of Season One.
dee3 said: "But regardless of WHO it is/was.....I still find it almost impossible to believe that without there having been something REALLY odd going on behind the scenes, that TLC would have decided...with all the other possible choices they had available....to choose Kate, of all people, to become this huge celebrity and phenomenon who was literally untouchable. To have gone to the lengths of almost controlling the media on her behalf. To have gone to such great lengths to villify Jon. To have done whatever they had to in order to make this woman what she became.
I will never believe that this was just pure coincidence. I sure can't pin-point it, but my gut tells me that something REALLY fishy was going on behind the scenes all this time."
It really is unbelievable, isn't it? She really has no star power, no ability to talk or relate to people (needed for a talk show), speak intelligently or knowledgably about anything, isn't funny - what's the big talent?
Here's my conspiracy theory (and I saw versions of this elsewhere back during the divorce). That is, that TLC really exploited them ruthlessly, that the original contract, the one Jon and Kate signed w/o an attorney was draconian (there have been hints of this) and, as was highlighted with the hearing last week, they broke child labor laws. Jodi and Kevin's testimony that staff on the show came to them with moral qualms was also out there long ago.
So, what I think is that they want to divide and conquer, to keep J & K from joining forces and exposing some of what went on, maybe even attempting to bring a lawsuit. Such an action would not only mean very bad publicity against TLC, it would threaten many of their shows. Think about Little People (and their marital trouble), Duggars, and more.
Probably cheaper to manage Kate, let her think she has a "career" and is some kind of "star" rather than toss her aside and put all their money making child exploitation shows at risk.
You may now remove your tinfoil hat. :)
French Canadian said...
IT factor and IMO
Could someone tell me what those two words mean?
I don't know any abreviation in English :(
The "IT factor" is the indescribable quality that makes something special. The "IT factor" does not have to make logical sense. (think about a really odd color that becomes fashionable one season, but is gone the very next season)
IMO is an abbreviation for "in my opinion".
Hope that helps!!
Dee,
I think any of us that have followed this from the beginning can admit that it took us a while to catch on that something was off but they editited(??) the show in a way that it wasn't smacking us in the face. They were able to control her a bit better because she wasn't so popular or in the regular media as much.
Her appearances were controlled and to relatively small groups and no one was really paying attention to all the lies and contradictions. BUT when you put her on every morning/late show, DWTS, entertainment shows, ROL etc people are going to pay attention because really we had no choice she has been everywhere. She simply CAN NOT pull it off and maybe they were gambling that she possibly could.
She is so completely out of her league and no amount of coaching or training can change that because she does not have the “it” factor it requires to make it in show biz...
My humble opinion anyways :)
Does anyone think that Kate GAINED any fans after viewing DWTS?
The comments I hear the most from those who didn't really know or care about her before, now say they understand why she is so unpopular with so many. Some even go so far as to say they can see Jon's side of the story now.
Dee3,
WHO and WHY made the decision to make Kate an invincible star and phenomenon? Why was SHE, a surely difficult-to-work-with and to manage narcissist....chosen to be given the gift of omnipotent celebrity, protected by all the clout and power TLC could muster? They not only had to CREATE her (as she has no real talent to speak of) but had to protect her (to the point where she became almost untouchable and invincible).
You, me and half of the blogosphere are questioning the same things. It defies logic yet it continues. She either has something on someone OR they're paying her off for some unknown reason OR they're using her and the kids - but then the question is - using her for what or why? And, the answer falls back to money.
TLC/Discovery made what, $200million a quarter when J&K+8 was on the air? If she's foolish enough and sick enough, to allow them to laugh at and exploit her and there are no laws prohibiting the use of the kids, I'd say they're pretty smart to continue using her (IMO, it's really not much more than that at this point). I know they did advertising, marketing, and distribution studies long before announcing the 2 new shows and they're certain they have enough ad revenue coming in to justify every cent they've poured into her and more.
Knowing TLC from their past performance, I'm pretty sure the new shows will proceed without delay (strike while the iron is hot and she's still in everyone's memory), but do I wonder if they and Zondervan haven't had a few conference calls to talk about combating the swell of negative opinion that her media overexposure the past 5 weeks generated and how they'll proceed.
Anyway, Dee3, I think this is a matter of BIG MONEY and when compared, the other issues are minor.
@StoopidSpice... Now where should Survivor go that would be perfect for Kate?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
How about home to her mansion. No nannies, no helpers, no bodyguards. Just Kate, and all 8 of her children. I think that would be one short lived show.
Does any parent here NOT have uncertainty about their kids future?
WTF, Kate? Nobody has a crystal ball but you seem to think that your poor little kids will have to sell gum at the Tijauana border so you can continue to nourish them with food and young babysitters.
To Itsaboutthekids: Thanks for your quotes from the various articles. I don't click on stories but I do enjoy all the ignorance she spews when her mouth is open.
I think Kate may have shot herself in the foot going on DWTS. People who not know or very little about her now definitely have an opinion about her. They will be less likely to tune in her new show after seeing all her nastiness and contol she must have. The more TLC tries to rehabilitate her I think the less likely that will happen. She just has canned responses so not really her own thoughts and says them over and over again.
They may just be playing her until her contract expires. All things are possible in Gobbelin Land, I guess.
Quote of the Day!
the vague concept of her kids,
Come on, She danced to Don't You Forget About Me. She knew the weeks she contracted for were up. If this was fixed, what else on the show is fixed?
Some would crudely say "Who is she f****** and s******?"
Now, I have never watched DWTS before this season. Now I will. So on Monday, I will be watching again to see who is the winner at the end. Some people have decided that the judges are jerks, Whoopie is a jerk, and everyone is a hater. They will NOT be watching DWTS on Monday.
And they make fun of us because we are so obsessed with Queen Freebie Irene! They are the jerks.
And I know you are reading (because I read you!). I have plenty of good deeds in my karma bank to outweigh any harshness I feel for Kate. Maybe you should think of all the things you might do for the greater good. Instead of insinuating that I will have to re-live this life again because I have not learned. You aint Buddha baby!
This was Kate's big chance. She could have won people over with this whole thing. Had she been gracious, humble and kind, she would have won some new fans. Heck, I might have even started to support her efforts.
Instead she looked miserable and rude the entire time. She never looked to be working hard and she did not seem like a nice person. Not at all. There was no visible family or friend support in the audience. EPIC FAIL.
Instead of gaining new support she appears to have lost some of the support she had before it started. She also gained some new "haters" after that display.
dee3
excellent post.
There is something very strange about this whole thing. I have never seen anything like it before. Someone has an unbelievable amount of control over the media when it comes to Kate.
I mentioned this quite some time ago...and it's still something I wonder about to this day.
And in a nutshell, it's this: Who was Kate doing at TLC to cause this entire phenomenon in the first place? (and when I say "doing", I don't necessarily mean it in any crude way...it could have just been a friendship or a crush)
Sure, I understand that JK&8 was a sudden hit and goldmine for TLC. And sure, I understand that Kate's unique shrew-like personality seemed to add to the interest and ramped-up the ratings. And sure, I understand that Jon became disillusioned...and began to no longer toe the TLC line the way they wanted him to.
But even with all that...WHO and WHY made the decision to make Kate an invincible star and phenomenon? Why was SHE, a surely difficult-to-work-with and to manage narcissist....chosen to be given the gift of omnipotent celebrity, protected by all the clout and power TLC could muster? They not only had to CREATE her (as she has no real talent to speak of) but had to protect her (to the point where she became almost untouchable and invincible).
I still am wondering...WHY? And WHO made this decision? I've always had my suspicions about the involvement of Eileen O'Neill.....though let me make it clear that there is absolutely no proof of anything here and that this is just me speculating.
But regardless of WHO it is/was.....I still find it almost impossible to believe that without there having been something REALLY odd going on behind the scenes, that TLC would have decided...with all the other possible choices they had available....to choose Kate, of all people, to become this huge celebrity and phenomenon who was literally untouchable. To have gone to the lengths of almost controlling the media on her behalf. To have gone to such great lengths to villify Jon. To have done whatever they had to in order to make this woman what she became.
I will never believe that this was just pure coincidence. I sure can't pin-point it, but my gut tells me that something REALLY fishy was going on behind the scenes all this time.
And because of my life experiences with working in corporate America....these sorts of things usually have some sort of really strange PERSONAL dynamic, that was going on behind the scenes, that was primarily responsible for it.
I just realized this.... and maybe someone has already men tioned it, but... as watching the monday nite show, and then tueday's elimination.. Kate basically blamed her kids for getting elimintaed... She said something to the fact that, she spent all of her energy on the kids, and so couldn't dance very well, then she was eliminated. When they kids watch that in the future, depending on how they chose to interpret comments of heres, they are going to think " Gees, its my fault momma got kicked off.."... good guilt trip for a kid.. but oh yes, ....
Kate is ALL about SHAME based parenting and guilt trips!
http://blogs.tampabay.com/media/2010/04/the-long-national-nightmare-ends-kate-gosselin-is-kicked-off-dancing-with-the-stars.html
April 20, 2010
The long national nightmare ends: Kate Gosselin is kicked off Dancing with the Stars
Reality TV mom Kate Gosselin may have been the biggest bee-yotch to ever strap on a pair of stilettos for Dancing with the Stars.
But when she finally got the boot on Tuesday's show, host Tom Bergeron wasn't above wallowing in her failure a bit, waving off broadcast of a pre-taped tribute to dig a little deeper into the sexto-mom's bizarre justifications for being both unenthusiastic about performing and supremely snarked off that she got ejected.
"I was scared to death most of the time," said a teary Gosselin, whipping out the "pity me" card she flashed often after showing her caustic side on the reality show which first built her fame. "It takes a lot to do this."
One thing it takes, for example, is a willingness to learn from the professional instructor. And a bit of talent as a performer. And the will to push yourself past harsh judging and low scores to show improvement in a way the show's voting audience seems to love.
None of which Gosselin seemed willing or capable of doing. By her last performance Monday, she was essentially sleepwalking through her dance moves, floating the excuse that her kids had come to visit her (another essential point in Gosselin's M.O. -- whenever someone criticizes you, blame your shortcomings on your sacrifices for your children).
Still Gosselin played the diva to the last moment, pausing before answering the first of Begeron's questions, saying "I need a moment." Eventually, she would thank the audience "for believing in me more than I believed in myself."
What was obvious - Gosselin had checked out and expected to be voted off this week. So why work hard, when you know the hangman's noose is coming anyway?
All the reality TV trickery in the world couldn't hide her awful attitude and non-existent dance skills -- this cycle's funniest moment remains when an acting coach was hired to teach her to show anger, and her expression never changed.
Beyond the Wicked Witch of the East, this cycle's DWTS continues to be a tough road for the tabloid-magnet women brought in to build the show's pop culture buzz. Though Niecy Nash and Bachelor dud Jake Pavelka deserved low scores more, bombshell Pamela Anderson landed alongside Gosselin in the bottom two, presumably because the show's female audience hates her pneumatically enhanced figure almost as much as Gosselin's crappy attitude.
Before long, she'll be gone as well and the series will get back to its traditional formula -- pitting skilled athlete Evan Lysacek against dancing pop star Nicole Scherzinger with Tampa's own Erin Andrews along as a dark horse contender.
Producers should be proud; they finally realized the show doesn't need a cast of thousands to build interest -- just a few carefully selected tabloid magnets to get the gossip rags going, building public interest as the real competition begins.
Posted by Eric Deggans at 09:41:13 PM on April 20, 2010
April 21st, 2010.Kicked Off Kate: ‘My Children’s Future Is Uncertain’
The emotional mom of eight gets to go home and her dancing partner, Tony, takes a jab at her on air!
Kate Gosselin, one minute you’re crying and the next you’re peeved with your dance partner Tony Dovolani!
Kate made it to week five of ABC’s Dancing with the Stars but sadly after her dance to ‘Don’t You Forget About Me‘ the reality mom got the boot on Apr. 20. When Kate appeared on GMA, the next morning, Apr. 21 to talk about getting kicked off she focused on her eight little Gosselins, who had been in LA with her for the past few days. ”My kids come first and their future is uncertain,” she says. “Dancing had to be second place.”
Tony remained quiet during most of the GMA interview but did point out that Kate’s moods were up and down, making it difficult during dance practices.
“It was a different Kate from hour to hour,” says Tony. “Depending on which Kate shows up.”
Kate didn’t like this comment from Tony one bit. She turned to Tony right after he uttered those words and glared at him saying “I really didn’t want you to say it … I don’t want people thinking I have multiple personalities or something.”
The DWTS castoff explained her live TV breakdown when she found out she was voted to come off.
“It was a mixed emotions cry,” says Kate. “I was sad it was me and I didn’t get to go further … My second thought was now I get to go home with the kids.”
We realize Kate is under a tremendous amount of pressure with a custody battle underway with her ex-husband Jon Gosselin. Not to mention Kate is the primary breadwinner of her household — she’s crisscrossing the country to promote her book , I Just Want You To Know and her two upcoming TLC shows.
But Kate there’s no need to get upset with Tony — he was just trying to teach your two left feet how to dance.
-Chloe Melas
http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/04/21/kate-gosselin-dancing-with-the-stars-4/
Direct quote from Kate! "Money will never sway me to change my convictions."
http://omg.yahoo.com/videos/kate-gosselin-would-kate-ever-take-jon-back/10547
Does this moron think before she opens her mouth?
Keep talking Kate! With every word that you utter you are adding another nail in your coffin. I pray that you are saving every dime that you make because your 15 minutes is down to five.
TIC TOC, TIC TOC.
http://dwts.magnify.net/video/Jimmy-with-DWTS-Kate-Gosselin-T?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DancingWithTheStarsVideos+%28Dancing+with+the+Stars+Videos%29&utm_content=Twitter
A clip of Kate and Tony on Jimmy Kimmel last night.
Kelly, great post, you tell 'um gal!
StoopidSpice said...
I think now she should try for Survivor
. Big prize money and get to be away from the chillrens. It is a win win. I would watch it.
~~
I think she'd have a shot on Survivor if only she didn't have to 'rough it'...that's not really Kate's idea of fun. But, I will say, if it were, she has the backstabbing, sneakiness, cunning, witchy side down, to be able to scam the other players (think Russell)...I think it would be a hoot to see her out there, she wouldn't last more than 45 min.
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