We don't know why we've hesitated to post this. Jon has been spotted out the past few days with the kids and his new girlfriend.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/05/jon-gosselins-new-girlfriend-plays-mom-eight
Lots of child development experts say it's not a good idea to introduce a girlfriend this soon. Most children fantasize about parents getting back together and a girlfriend can be very upsetting.
However some experts say that "hiding" a girlfriend from children can be just as bad. When the children finally find out, they can feel betrayed, or like they are not important enough to be included in what is going on in their parent's life.
Lots of child development experts say it's not a good idea to introduce a girlfriend this soon. Most children fantasize about parents getting back together and a girlfriend can be very upsetting.
However some experts say that "hiding" a girlfriend from children can be just as bad. When the children finally find out, they can feel betrayed, or like they are not important enough to be included in what is going on in their parent's life.
83 sediments (sic) from readers:
Khate never hid stevie, nor jaime, why should jon hide anyone?
I agree with you prairiemary. Besides, they live only part time with Kate because she is always gone so why not have a female influence in their lives. Love how the kids interact with her. I happen to believe that children can never have too much love. Jon is their Dad, he can bring anyone around he wants to.
So what happens when Jon and girlfriend number 4.0 break-up? Won't the kids be a little confused and hurt that yet another person is gone from their lives.
I can totally relate to what Admin posted. My dad hid his girlfriend from me and my brother for years. When I did finally meet her, I felt like my dad was leading a double life. The truth is that HE WAS. Luckily they eventually got married and it seems like they have a stable relationship.
Sheesh, divorce is hard enough, can't the Gosselin 8 ever catch a break?
I don't think what the experts say can really go for the Gosselin kids because they don't have a normal life at all. They don't have any extended family members around them, but they are surrounded by strangers all the time instead. So I really don't think this is going to have any major impact on them. Their mother has been running around with Steve for years already, and to little kids....what they saw was mommy with another man, and that was way back when mommy and daddy were still together. So if the kids met Ellen, big deal...I think they will be just fine with this. :)
Kate OTOH, is probably spitting bricks. ;)
I have to guess that Ellen is pleasant and nice to Jon. He lived the other side of that coin for 10 years so why would he even choose to see someone who wasn't? Whether she has been introduced as a friend or as a girlfriend, won't it be nice for the kids to see how another woman treats their dad, with some genuine affection and respect. Those kids need to know how a man and woman SHOULD treat each other. As long as that's happening, I don't see how knowing about Ellen can hurt them.
PA Mom I think you have an excellent point.
This is the one case where their upbringing might actualy help them. The kids are USED to strangers being trooped in and out of their lives. They are used to people being there one day hugging them, gone the next. They are used to broken promises. If, WHEN this girlfriend finally decides she doesn't need an overweight 30 something and his 8 kids, I don't think the kids will care all that much. They'll love the next one who comes along.
I also think there's no right time to introduce a girlfriend...it goes back to why you should do everything you can not to get divorced in the first place. Kate divorced Jon, just sayin'.
Admin, that's exactly right. The kids are used to this. Ellen is just one more person in their lives right now. Hopefully it will work out with her and Jon, if not...I don't think the kids would be anywhere near as upset as they must have been when Kate gave Jodi and Kevin the boot. The kids were so close to their aunt, uncle and cousins...and in the blink of Kate's eye, it was all over. I wonder if Kate ever even took into consideration how the kids felt. I'm thinking she didn't. It was all about what she wanted, and no one else mattered.
I think that from being around ellen and jon,these 8 kids will benefit greatly to have so many smiles directed at them,it just ticks me off SO much,that the only time khate ever smiles, is when she is away from her kids, it just makes me sick! Yesterday, the daughter i lost to cancer, would have been turning 28-I would give ANYTHING to be able to smile at her, hug her, laugh with her.But not good old khate, she just doesn't know how lucky she is to have 8 beautiful, healthy kids,to smile at, laugh with, hug everyday, and tuck into bed each night.She just takes it all for-granted,stupid cow.
Administrator said...They are used to broken promises. If, WHEN this girlfriend finally decides she doesn't need an overweight 30 something and his 8 kids, I don't think the kids will care all that much. They'll love the next one who comes along.
Man, that’s harsh. So since the kids are “used to broken promises” one more is ok? Sorry, this statement has pretty much blown me away. Now they’re so screwed up and have been lied to so often, what’s one more disappointment and one more lie?
Names Game, not saying it's ok AT ALL! Sorry if it sounded like that. My point was merely, because the kids are so darn screwed up when it comes to having people ripped in and out of their lives, one more probably won't matter. But is it okay? Absolutely not.
I don't have an opinion about whether Jon should show this girlfriend to the kids. I don't know enough about the situation, the girlfriend, the kids, to know. I can only hope he is doing the right thing.
Whether or not the professionals say it is OK or not OK, and when would be an appropriate period of time after a divorce, it does not matter since it appears to me that Jon and Kate are going to do whatever they feel is right - for them first, kids second - anyway.
FWIW, I don't think meeting yet another adult in their crazy life is going to phase the kids that much either BUT when Kate comes home and has no place to go - book signings or guest hosting gigs - I think Kate will be pissed that Jon has introduced his GF and there will be repercussions. Stay tuned to ROL for all the details - Kate will make the most of this new development I'm sure of it.
JMO.
JMO.
Administrator said... My point was merely, because the kids are so darn screwed up when it comes to having people ripped in and out of their lives, one more probably won't matter. But is it okay? Absolutely not.
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Ok, I'm calming down, now. :)
I feel so terribly sorry for these kids I can hardly stand it. The photo you posted at the top of the page breaks my heart. Mady looks almost hopeful, there. Pure speculation, I know.
Nothing is going to change in their messed up lives. I guess, at this point, I just wish it wasn't all over the internet.
I wish they had a grandma and grandpa who would scoop them up and take them home for sleepovers and buy them ice cream and let them make tents in the living room out of blankets and towels, and who had a dog or two they could play with...and slap Jon and Kate silly!!!
These kids look like they are having fun. They have very little of it with their mother. If another female can come in and play with them, which is what kids that age love, then why not? They appear to like Ellen,
If Kate has such a problem with it she is welcome to go to family law court and ask the judge to order Jon not to bring significant others around the children. She is a big girl and can take care of herself. She doesn't seem all that concerned enjoying herself in L.A.
I actually assumed Jon asked her if she thought it was ok, which would be the polite thing to do. But who knows.
IHQ, the children do have grandparents. Their mother estranged them.
I wonder how Kate's five fans left feel about even Kate herself admitting that 90% of people don't like her.
They're always trying to convince us there are far more Kate supporters than Kate detractors.
I should have said I wish the kids' grandparents were "allowed" to be fun, loving grandparents.
It's good to see the kids witnessing how 'nice' Ellen is treating Jon. And that it's okay to be nice to your partner and not always yelling and screaming at them for no apparent reason.
The kids aren't afraid of her like they are of their own mother. Which is sad.
And this would be girl 2.0.. Kate Major and Skankotor? No proof or evidence Jon ever dated them... They're just attention whores.
And yes, it would be a little awkward if this one doesn't last that long....
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I think Jon is a good guy, but got wrapped up in this mess (thanks to Kate) and now he can't figure out how to go back. I truly believe he would, if he could. There have been so many articles printed about Kate, with her diva behavior and nasty attitude...from the hospital when she was working to the neighborhood she lived in (Walter Muelller ~sp~) to the different places she's been since being in the limelight. But no one has ever written any articles like that about Jon, and I have read plenty about these two. Not one person has ever came out and said Jon was nasty to anyone. I would love for this relationship to work out for him because I think he deserves to have someone treating him the right way, and it would be fantastic for the children too. Just because Ellen is only 23, it doesn't mean she cannot open her heart to the kids. Hopefully this is the case.
Kate will not be happy about any of this because she is not going to want another woman to appear more loving to her children than she is. Kate just doesn't have it in her.
Kate Gosselin and Jon Gosselin: Will their amicabilty end because of Jon’s new girlfriend?
May 24, 2010By Jaimie Mancham-Case
Kate Gosselin and Jon Gosselin seem to be at peace right now. There haven’t been any recent (well made public) fights over custody, their kids, working or anything else but is that about to change now that Jon Gosselin has a new girlfriend, Ellen Ross, who seems to enjoying playing and hugging the Gosselin’s 8 kids?
The Hollywoodlife reports that Ellen Ross was seen hugging and kissing the kids and generally acting like their second mommy. However, it seems to me that the kids need as many loving figures in their lives as possible. As long as Ellen Ross is acting legitimately and loves the kids and isn’t trying to take Kate Gosselin’s place as the mother, then it shouldn’t be any big deal.
But as relationships in Hollywood and the real life go, love breeds jealousy, even when the center of the attention is kids. Hopefully, this won’t lead Kate Gosselin to start acting petty and ban Jon Gosselin from seeing the kids with his new girlfriend. Especially, seeing as Kate was just complaining about how taxed out she is from having to raise the little rugrats!
http://likeitido.com/2010/05/24/kate-gosselin-and-jon-gosselin-will-their-amicabilty-end-because-of-jons-new-girlfriend/7656
Being a grandmother of 5 beautiful,loving grandchildren,I just can't imagine not being in their lifes. They are my sunshine and I know within my heart that they love me and grandpa and will always have good memories of us. It is sad that the Gosselin children will never know the love of a grandma and grandpa.
From IDModo on Werny's site:
http://www.butlerreport.com/News/BRNews_Gosselin_ruling.html
Excerpt:
"Pennsylvania Labor Dept Gosselin
ruling described as ‘pathetic.’
One Child International-Child AbuseWatch today described the Pennsylvania Department of Labor & Industry’s ruling on the Gosselin children as ‘shamefully little and way too late.’ One Child's CEO, Evin Daly, described the Department's decisions as 'pathetic.'
The Departments probe concluded that during the filming of ‘Jon & Kate Plus 8,’ which followed the lives of the couple and their eight children, the children were employed under Pennsylvania's Child Labor Law because of the direction they sometimes received, because of their continued participation in the series and because the Gosselins and others were paid for the show. (cns5.com)
Despite an avalanche of public concern in 2009 on behalf of the children, the parents and TLC walked away from the ruling without penalties of any kind. Labor officials ruled that at least 15 percent of the show's gross proceeds, due to the children, must be placed in irrevocable trust funds until they reach the age of 18.
Child AbuseWatch campaigned over the summer of 2009 on behalf of the Gosselin children who they believed were being financially exploited and abused through neglect. Cara, Madelyn, Alexis, Aaden, Collin, Leah, Hannah, Joel were denied work status and the accompanying protection despite their active involvement in the show.
‘It took the PA Labor Department over a year to reach a conclusion that the public was aware of from the get-go,’ Daly said. ‘Had the Labor board done their job in June 2009 the children would have been spared the public showing, and TLC’s recording, of their parent’s divorce.’ He went on, ‘Awarding the children 15% of the family revenue when they represent at least 50% of the show is an extension of their wholehearted exploitation by all of the parties involved. Based on this math each child therefore makes less than 2% each while each of the parents receives 42.5%. This is, in a word, wrong.’ ..."
I feel more hopeful than I have in a loooong time. They have this report to back them up on June 3.
Anyone heard abt the custody hearing today?
pa mom too said...
Their mother has been running around with Steve for years already, and to little kids....what they saw was mommy with another man, and that was way back when mommy and daddy were still together. So if the kids met Ellen, big deal...I think they will be just fine with this. :)
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Great point! Even if Kate and Steve are not a "couple" would the children really be able to differentiate between Kate's relationship with Steven and Jon's relationship with Ellen? Probably not.
My opinion has always been that I don't think these kids will even notice a new person in and right back out of their lives. Everyone they've known has come into their lives and gone right back out... their grandparents, their cousins, their Aunts and Uncles, the various film crew members, various personalities (Emeril, Mikey from American Chopper, Tony Dovolani), various nannies, Nana Joan, Nana Janet... even their dogs. It's sad and disgusting, but they are so used to it that I doubt it will phase them.
Neither Jon or Kate have ever listened to any professional well-meaning opinion in the past anyway. If they aren't worried about their children losing their childhoods and their privacy why would they worry about bringing complete strangers in and out of their lives?
pa mom,
I really go back and forth about Jon being a "good guy."
I just can't get over how he let them film his children again, especially after the pedophile comment. I do know that he said they weren't getting paid for it and they are now getting paid for the new episodes (not much either) but does that make it okay?
Jon is just as guilty as Kate for taking all those love offerings from people even after they were no longer in desperate need of money. Maybe he was pursuaded or had no choice in the matter, but I doubt it. Jon is just as guilty as Kate for going through with the charade of being married, etc when in fact they were separated.
I had high hopes for him when he pulled away from TLC. Now it seems like he resold his soul to the devil, as well as his children's.
I do wonder if TLC had Jon's hands tied somehow and he felt he had no choice. I wish I knew.
Isn't there a protest against TLC today?
SchmeckyGirl ~
I agree with all you said except this one statement:
"It's sad and disgusting, but they are so used to it that I doubt it will phase them."
It WILL phase them. They have learned or will, that there is no such thing as a long term relationship. In their short lives they have seen people be replaced as often at the weekly trash is taken out.
I agree, Judy. I also have 5 grandchildren and until they were of school age, I was their caregiver whenever possible while their parents worked. The youngest (and the last I'm told) went off to kindergarten this year and I very much miss our time together. It has been my honor and a pure joy to be able to watch these children grow and blossom into caring and thoughtful and very normal young people.
My daughter has been a first grade teacher for years and she told me she can almost always tell when any of her students have close contact with loving grandparents because they seem so much better grounded and well-rounded. I don't know if it's true, but that's been her observation. I do hope the Gosselin children will be able to reconnect with their extended family sooner rather than later. To deny them the opportunity for that love is just so very sad.
Wow the picture of Ellen carrying one of the little girls speaks volumes doesn't it. She actually CARRIED a tired child rather than telling that child to "act like a man"like Mama Gosselin told Aiden. Seems Ellen is very loving and caring towards the children unlike Mommy Dearest. Kate won't like that one little bit.
I said before that if the kids ever write a book, and I am sure at least one will, it will be titled, "Raised by Strangers".
Incredible damage is being done to these kids, including making them targets for kidnapers and sex perverts.
Exploitation of children by their parents have a long history, I remember a few in Dickins novels.
Obvious, Kate has little emotional attachment to children or dogs. They are but a tool to and end.
She will never attrack a loving man, who would put up with her except a masochist. I mean really...well, maybe someone that wants to use her.
Someone needs to tell Ellen that only Hannah can be carried!!!
Cherier1- I'm glad you reposted the Butler Report from Werny's site but it wasn't me, it was itsaboutthekids who put it up there.
On another note, we are assuming that the Kreiders want to have loving relationships with their grandchildren and are being blocked by Kate. I hope that's true, but if the kids were my grandchildren, I would be fighting through the courts for access to them and not stopping until I had it. Either the kids ARE seeing them and we don't know about it, or maybe it just doesn't matter that much for them to have regular contact.JMO.
SG, the protest is tomorrow the 26th in front of the TLC studios in Silver Springs, MD.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=122745877738296&v=wall&ref=search
Look under "Events", page down on left side of page.
SchmeckyGirl, I agree about Jon allowing the kids to be filmed again. Even though I think Jon has a lot of good in him, that part makes me mad. We will never know the truth, but I do think TLC slammed him against the wall, and he had no other choice. There really was no one on his side, and it would be awfully hard to beat a corporation like TLC, even with the best attorney. TLC didn't even get into any trouble over not having the proper permits all of those years, when they knew they should have had them. If Jon would have stuck to his guns, the public could have rallied around him, but in reality....what good would that have done ? Look at all the fighting people have been doing against this for the longest time already, and TLC just keeps coming out on the top. What could Jon have done on his own against them ?
Sorry Ista for the incorrect attribution. Thank you IDModo for correcting me.
CJ,
When I said I doubt it will phase them, I did not mean that I doubt it will affect them. I know it will effect them. I just don't think it would phase them right now because they are used to it. But yes, you are right... it will affect them for sure.
I don't understand the problem with Jon's new GF spending time with the kids.It looks like she has more mothering skills than Kate EVER has.She is paying attention to them and that is something they are not use to.
I personally am more concerned about Kate and Steve's relationship.It makes my skin crawl everytime I see them together,(Which by the way is more than he spends with his own children and his wife.)I think the children have seen more from that relationship than any of Jons.
It's just not a bodyguard and employee thing, and I think his wife is blinded by the money he brings home.
Those kids have seen and heard more in these past 5 yrs. than most teenagers have.
Judy, it is not in the best interests of the children to introduce them to the boyfriend/girlfriend that early in the relationship, as it is one more loss the kids have to deal with when it ends. All childhood experts say that. We have all seen Jon's track record as far as relationships go and what harm would there have been done in waiting at least a couple of months before introducing her?
As far as Kate & Steve go, it has not been proven that they are anything more than employee/employer. It was a rumor started way back by none other than Jon, who admitted it. As far as what the kids have seen and heard? I wouldn't know about that as I don't live with them, or even know them.
Just saying said...
As far as Kate & Steve go, it has not been proven that they are anything more than employee/employer.
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Actually that's not true. Kate herself has said that he is not just a bodyguard but he is a close friend of hers.
The two of them spend a lot of time together as "close friends" and sometimes just the two of them.
I personally think it is not right for a married man to spend that much time with a close friend that is female (and now single) without his spouse around for the better part of it.
So no, they are not just employer/employee.
Y'all are really reaching on this. Do you know why Kate makes so much money for DWTS? Because she generates PUBLICITY. Good or bad, it all translates to dollars. Stop posting in public forums. Talk privately.
SchmeckyGirl, you're right,about Kate saying she and Steve are friends, but she has said Steve's wife, Gina, is her friend as well. My boss, who is male, is my friend as well as my boss, and he is single. Am I having an affair with him? NO! I have another male friend who I go to lunch with or out for a drink. He is single, I am married. Is there anything romantic between us? No, just friendship. That being said, I really don't think that Steve is Kate's "type". She will want someone not as old looking as Steve and probably someone that has money of their own and no kids. Let's not forget that Jon said he started that rumor about Kate and Steve having an affair.
Who knows that Jon even introduced Ellen as his "girlfriend" to the children? Most of the revolving nannies aren't that old either so the children probably look at this as someone paying attention to them. Other than Steve's family, who plays with these children other than adults? Jodi and Kevin's children used to play with them until the fall out occurred. Which is a whole other topic but none of the cousins should be punished because the parental families disagree. If Ellen is kind to them, God Bless. If Kate gets a signficant person in her life who is good to the children, God Bless as well. The children deserve more things in their life that truly matter. I am afraid of what it will take to knock some sense into BOTH parents. 90% of people don't like Kate??? Kate keeps going on using her children for personal fame and 7 of her 8 children will be part of that group.. . .
SchmeckyGirl said...
I personally think it is not right for a married man to spend that much time with a close friend that is female (and now single) without his spouse around for the better part of it.
So no, they are not just employer/employee.
I have seen a lot in my 63 yrs between men and women, and this little twosome is a lot more than employer/employee.
I don't even have to read between the lines to see it...it is right before my eyes on a daily basis per ROL.They are a great source for imformation without reading their garbage.I can't believe that Mrs. Steve doesn't see it too !
Been around it and know cheaters when I see them.
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IHQ, the children do have grandparents. Their mother estranged them.
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I'm still not positive about that. I think it's also possible that the Kreiders may have shunned Kate and her family. Kate's father has a reputation of being a bit of a bully and a narcissist, too.
I think this is a despicable article:
May 24th, 2010 .Jon Gosselin — Our Experts Say ‘You’re Pathetic AND Ruining Your Kids Lives’ By Letting Your New GF Hang All Over Them!
Jon, you need a WAKE UP CALL! We are so worried about your eight little Gosselins that we spoke with top child and family psychologists who tell us your behavior is causing serious DAMAGE to your children!
Jon Gosselin, we need you to listen very closely! We’ve been watching you hop from one young girlfriend to another over the past year, which in itself is a major problem BUT we never really cared until it started to affect your kids. You totally crossed the line last week by bringing you new girlfriend Ellen Ross, 23, around your eight children. What are you thinking?! She was hugging and kissing all over them! We spoke with two experts who tell us this is way too soon and dangerous for your children’s emotional health.
“When one parent brings a ‘replacement’ mommy or daddy into the equation, it makes the children more scared and angry, especially when this replacement starts fawning over them to garner points,” says Beverly Hills Psychiatrist Dr. Carole Lieberman. “The Gosselin children are on psychological overload. Not only are they having to cope with their parents’ divorce, but now the parade of their father’s girlfriends – and all in front of cameras following them everywhere.”
Jon, this could cause your little ones to start resenting you and in turn they’ll probably start acting out! “When they see their parents with someone else it’s like a knife in their chest being slowy turned,” says family psychologist and host of VH1’s Dad Camp, Dr. Jeff Gardere.
You’ve only been dating Ellen for a little over a month so who knows if it will work out. Our experts say you should wait quite a long time before you introduce someone to your kids.
“A divorced parent should wait at least three months before introducing a new love interest,” says Dr. Lieberman. “More if they are not sure if this love interest is ‘the one’. Jon’s history of having a new ‘flavor of the month’, almost every month, so he should wait longer — at least nine months … the children should be spared the psychological trauma.”
Jon, Dr. Gardere wants you to come on his reality show when he does a celeb dad version! His new show follows six women who have a “deadbeat dad” and Jeff knocks them into shape … sounds like a good idea for you.
“First thing I would do is get him to break out of his denial and he would have to be smacked in the face,” says Dr. Gardere. “Men don’t heal they hoe … he is playing Russian Roulette with the kids emotions.”
“You are pathetic,” says Dr. Lieberman. “You’re letting your narcissistic need for attention overshadow what’s in the best interest of your children.”
Bottom line, you need to keep your conquests away from the kids because one day you’ll be left with eight children who won’t be a part of your life.
— Chloe Melas
CHECK OUT DR. GARDERE’S NEW SHOW ON VH1 ‘DAD CAMP’ MAY 31 AT 10:30PM!
http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/05/24/jon-gosselin-new-girlfriend-ellen-ross-ruining-kids-lives-expert-kate-gosselin/
Seems to me that the good "Doctor" Jeff is just looking to exploit Jon and maybe even his famous kids for his new TV show. He sounds reeeeaaaaly credible.
Nothing Kate has ever done will hurt her kids but Jon brought home a GIRLFRIEND!!! Damn, he needs to lose custody, go to jail and be emasculated. Oh, wait, . . . never mind.
I wouldn't have expected anything more from Hollywood Life. They've almost always painted Kate with a Madonna brush. It sounds like they're sensationalizing and using Jon and these children to sell THEIR product...Dr. Gardere's new show. They're worse than Jon IMO. What REAL doctor tells a potential patient he's "pathetic"? That will sure instill confidence in his ability to help someone, won't it? This is a bunch of crap. JMHO
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Kelly, if you are going hope all goes well. Thanks for taking one for the team. Even 1 person standing in front of their establishment is one big heartbeat for the kids who are victims of TLC each day. :-)
Just saying said...
Judy, it is not in the best interests of the children to introduce them to the boyfriend/girlfriend that early in the relationship, as it is one more loss the kids have to deal with when it ends. All childhood experts say that. We have all seen Jon's track record as far as relationships go and what harm would there have been done in waiting at least a couple of months before introducing her?
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I'm not sure if it's so much Jon's track record. He must have loved Hailey because he even went on tv and said she was his soulmate. Hailey IMO used him to get herself in the spotlight, and I think she broke his heart. I will never forget how snotty she was being on that one talk show when he got up and walked out. It reminded me of the way Kate used to talk to him.
As far as Stephanie and Kate M.. Stephanie was a lying piece of trash, and she wasn't his girlfriend. And I don't believe Kate M was his girlfriend either. Her and Michael Lohan had a story cooked up, and look who's together now. ;) If it wouldn't have been for radar and all of their bashing articles, no one would have thought very much of what Jon did. They are the ones who made him appear to be a real POS, while always keeping Kate on a pedestal. If radar would have been against Kate instead, think of the articles they could have printed about her and Steve.
Stop posting in public forums. Talk privately.
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when the shrew is off my TV, I'll be done posting on public forums.
NancyB- That article certainly is despicable! Apparently fame hos are everywhere, even among the ranks of psychologists and psychiatrists. I think it's extremely unethical of them to comment professionally on a situation that, without a proper face-to-face assessment, they have decided they are experts on. And then for Dr. Gardere to offer Jon a spot on his TV show- in order to capitalize on his presence-and put forth a "treatment plan"- that's just downright sleazy.
My guess is that neither of these "experts" have met Jon, or Kate, or Ellen, or the kids. They are in this to get fame or notoriety and probably to build their celebrity client base.
Chloe Melas, the author of this article,and eonline, you are taking journalism to a new low.
It doesn't seem like there are any journalists out there anymore that are ethical and actually do any research or investigative work before they spew out something totally false. The only one that I have read regularly is Z from Baltimore Sun but should he be the norm, not the exception?
What is going on with these media people???
Anonymous said...
Y'all are really reaching on this. Do you know why Kate makes so much money for DWTS? Because she generates PUBLICITY. Good or bad, it all translates to dollars. Stop posting in public forums. Talk privately.
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This is America...the land of the free. :)
Hal Broedecker from the Orlando Sentinel is another media critic with the Gosselin spin o rama number.
No, make me said...
Stop posting in public forums. Talk privately.
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when the shrew is off my TV, I'll be done posting on public forums.
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Maybe it's Kate. Good thing she can't hear us breathing. ;)
For those of us watching DWTS tonight.... does everyone know it's on from 8-11 ? 8-9, repeat from last night. 9-11, finale.
pa mom ~I'm in Indiana and its on 8pm-11pm. Winner announced last hour.
I'm watching too. Can't resist seeing the witch fly on her broom !
Can anyone help me? I'm curious.......when did Kate leave Pa to go to LA this time?
IDModo said... - I think it's extremely unethical of them to comment professionally on a situation that, without a proper face-to-face assessment, they have decided they are experts on.
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What do you think of Dr. Lillian Glass?
GKWay said...
It doesn't seem like there are any journalists out there anymore that are ethical and actually do any research or investigative work before they spew out something totally false. The only one that I have read regularly is Z from Baltimore Sun but should he be the norm, not the exception?
What is going on with these media people???
You're right, GKWay,
Journalists, as we once knew them, are a dying breed - perhaps they're already gone. IMO, media people are the norm, regurgitating gossip for ratings and attention, putting little effort into fact checking or legitimacy. Sensationalism sells. Long gone are the days of legitimate news outlets. Just think how different out culture would be today if the 'news' was reported like it was a decade ago.
Irene - Thanks for posting this very important information! Best to you!!!
PA Mom @ 3:36PM - I usually totally agree with you and I do again!
Nancy B. - don't fret over the article. It is just an attempt at publicity for his show. Sounds like a Dr. Phil wannabe to me. Just what television needs, another tv doctor. When will creativity make a comeback in television programming. They just don't make them like they used to.
They probably already knew about her anyway. It's not like they're in a bubble. We can read all this stuff on the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if their friends at school told them about the latest girlfriend before they met her anyway, or if Mady and Cara looked their parents up or something.
Judy said...
pa mom ~I'm in Indiana and its on 8pm-11pm. Winner announced last hour.
I'm watching too. Can't resist seeing the witch fly on her broom !
Can anyone help me? I'm curious.......when did Kate leave Pa to go to LA this time?
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Kate left Florida and headed straight to CA, the kids came home with the nannies on May 17th. Kate hasn't been back to PA yet.
Thank you NancyB. :)
To whoever replied to me...
I never said Kate and Steve were having an affair. I said that Kate said they were good friends... So they are more than just employee/employer.
I have close male friends that are married and single. I can meet them for lunch etc and it's not inappropriate but I personally feel it is if we were to travel together... If he were to spend a lot of time with me alone and with me and my two kids alone.
I trust my husband but it would still be inappropriate for him to spend time with his female friend and her kids as much as Steve does with Kate. Especially because they have a personal relationship.
OMG!! ROFL! Just saw Kate's entrance dance...
SchmeckyGirl said...
OMG!! ROFL! Just saw Kate's entrance dance...
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Me too ! I thought I would pee my pants!!ROFL twice ! I put my glasses on to see her better. Now my retnas are burning.
Hang on, it's going to get better !
West Coast here....saw the Kimmel skit. WOW. They are really making fun all of this.
And I think some of the entertainment articles are written tongue and cheek, if not all. They are making fun of her, is she so dumb she doesn't "get" it? She's getting used.
...and she SO wants a man in her life:
"I'm so loney", "I have been abandoned", "Who would put up with my baggage", "I haven't had sex in a year" etc etc.
Whoops, I posted my own little recap of Kate's ridiculousness on the DWTS entry below this one on the blog.
Haven't heard from Kelly about tomorrow. But, on 4-8 Please boycott Kate plus 8 & tlc,
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Irene, I'm not sure what this means? Is that a Date 4-8? If so, that would be April 8??? I'm missing something I'm sure.
Carolina Gal - I think it means (For the 8) = 4-8
That's my guess :)
That's Irene's Facebook page.
4-8 Boycott "Kate plus 8"
The protest is tomorrow.
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/group.php?gid=122745877738296&ref=search&sid=Zks6foBt73TytxmThlEMxA.1598565427..1
I didn't join but only because I don't want the crazy fans to know what the "B" stands for and where I live.
The Names The Game- I pretty much feel the same way about Dr.Lillian Glass, although supposedly there is a science in interpreting body language in that it is done by observing physical postures only, and extrapolating on their meaning.I think that the Gosselin family could benefit from a therapist,but they need one who would observe the rules of confidentiality and not pimp out their problems for all to see.
TheresaB - Ditto that!
Sounds to me like Dr. Jeff is a TLC wanna-be-famous-like-Dr.-Phil. What a total crock of BS. He doesn't know Jon or Ellen and he has no clue what their relationship is. I dated after my divorce and when I met the man of my dreams I knew it the first week. There was something there that was so tangible we both knew we were right for each other. Ten years later and we are still completely in love and best friends. I'm sure if Dr. Jeff heard about our relationship back then he'd have been as negative as he is with Jon.
Can someone give me a link to some footage of the train wreck that was Kate's dance tonight ... I need a laugh!
Last night... Kate...words are escaping me. LOL ! Clomping with the red fan thing, and the Paparazzi song again... I hope the sheeple were impressed. No flying ? Maybe they figured if she flies as well as she walks, it could be disastrous. ;)
Hey Theresa B it is okay I understand about the privacy thing. I want people to stay on their respective blogs anyway. Our voices are important and the more that bring awareness in different formats the better!
This all would not be happening without keen bloggers, and blog owners that put alot into their sites. This is a complex issue one in which we don't always agree. But, there are some necessary conversations happening on these blogs.
Today on the 4-8 (yes, it means FOUR THE EIGHT) we are trying to call and write letters, emails to people who sponsor, support and use kids in these shows.
I hope however Kelly has handled this...he knows we have alot of respect for him. I am sure Montgomery County & Silver Springs put up road blocks to a protest happening. So, I hope he will update us.
There is someone interested in trying one for New York if anyone is interested. And, possibly even Washington D.C.
pa mom said said...
No flying ? Maybe they figured if she flies as well as she walks, it could be disastrous. ;)
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pa mom, I could be wrong, but I believe the "flying" part was her going up on that lift...I have a feeling that when Tom and Brooke were laughing so hard after that lift thingy, that it was all AT Kate, not WITH her! LOL
Y'all are really reaching on this. Do you know why Kate makes so much money for DWTS? Because she generates PUBLICITY. Good or bad, it all translates to dollars. Stop posting in public forums. Talk privately.
CJ,
When I said I doubt it will phase them, I did not mean that I doubt it will affect them. I know it will effect them. I just don't think it would phase them right now because they are used to it. But yes, you are right... it will affect them for sure.
I said before that if the kids ever write a book, and I am sure at least one will, it will be titled, "Raised by Strangers".
Incredible damage is being done to these kids, including making them targets for kidnapers and sex perverts.
Exploitation of children by their parents have a long history, I remember a few in Dickins novels.
Obvious, Kate has little emotional attachment to children or dogs. They are but a tool to and end.
She will never attrack a loving man, who would put up with her except a masochist. I mean really...well, maybe someone that wants to use her.
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