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Tuesday, June 15, 2010
Jon meets with reality show producer in L.A.
While Kate's busy making the kids work in Pennsylvania, Jon has been to New York, D.C., and now L.A., all in a few days. While in L.A. he was spotted out with Canaan Rubin, a reality show producer. What exploitive project is he cooking up next?
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179 sediments (sic) from readers:
Can't these parents do anything else except make reality shows? What do they intend to do when they are 40, 50, 60? Do they really think America wants to see their reality show when they are 52 and gray?
They are so dumb. Get real jobs!
I wonder if there is an opposite universe out there where the opposite J&K are philanthropists rather than the greedy, self serving fame-aholics they really are?
Admin
We don't want to see them in their 30's!
What do they intend to do when they are 40, 50, 60?
I think the plan is to retire on their kids' income. Not sure if Jon will have ANY hair left when he's 52 though.
I am 53 and thanks to an excellent colorist, not gray.I don't think that anyone would be remotely interested in a reality show based on my existence, however. The only interest I have in the Gosselins is that the kids get have something of a real childhood or else they stand no chance as adults. Jon is so obvious about his frat boy antics but he is still the only real parent that the kids have any emotional bond with.
The problem is, from what I can tell, they aren't exactly living beneath their means and banking this dough. They're living large, both of them. And rolling the dice that the cash flow will continue.
Problem is, it won't. They chose probably the single most fickle industry to bet their futures on. I expect they will be like those sad sack has-been Z List people who go around desperate for an agent, for a bite, for anything (you don't even hear about them or see them in pics, they are that off the radar).
These two make me sick. They contribute nothing to their kids or society. They bank on their kids and society propping them up in life. I can't stand what Kate does and how much she lies but I can tell you this. Jon is just as bad and if he tries to use his kids to earn his living in another reality show entitled "Jon and 8 less Kate" he is lower than whale crap.
GODDD!!!!! When will these two freaks just GO AWAY????????
What reality show could Jon possibly do that would garner any interest? He's overweight, has no personality, drones when he talks, hangs with girls 10 years or more younger than he is.
He's tried out the following religions:
1. Christian
2. Jewish
3. Buddist
He's had multiple girlfriends:
1. Hailey
2. Kate Major
3. Ellen
4. Megan
5. Stephanie
6. A few Las Vegas chicks
He has a two bedroom apartment with 8 kids.
1. Jon gets his bedroom
2. 8 kids fight like cats to get theirs.
He's a man whore, a player, a fake, a phoney, a user, a deceiver, a fraud. Why would anyone be interested in watching anything with him in it?
Kate's the same way. Although she keeps her personal life close to the chest, she's a user, a fraud, a phoney, a scam artist a wannabe star but a money grubber bigger than Mr. Potter on "It's a Wonderful Life".
15 minutes....14....13...12....11.....10 tick tock tick tock.......
I see the future...... and it's late night INFOMERCIALS!
Jon will be hawking DVD's on how to make a killing by doing basically nothing. He'll have some cute young thing as his co-host, being all excited about the system Jon's promoting.
Kate's fall TV show (Twist of Kate) will be scrapped and transcribed into a book that will be sold to all the people who need her "help". That way they can keep going back to review her sage advice.
Ditto to everything Kelly said. They're both disgusting.
Whatever he does would have to be TLC-approved...right? I mean, as far as we know, they still own his balls.
He's had multiple girlfriends:
1. Hailey
2. Kate Major
3. Ellen
4. Megan
5. Stephanie
6. A few Las Vegas chicks
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Wrong.. Again, please state facts not tabloids lies.
Jon only dated Hailey, Morgan and Ellen.
Stephanie and Kate Major only used Jon to get their 15 minutes.
Little off topic, but has anyone noticed the newest TLC child exploitin' show Quintuplet Surprise?
Oh they are SO the Gosselins. Seriously. She SEEMS nicer but they live like royalty and are looking at serious major money issues. Supposedly.
Anyway, just more parents of higher order multiples training them to smile and dance for the cameras! (They are about a year old.)
Makes me sick. I saw about ten minutes, remembered my ban on TLC and turned it.
It is still a mystery to me what a gold digger like Katie Kreider saw in Jon in the first place. He wasn't working when she met him. Even back then he was just bumming around with absolutely no plans for the future. She must have been after his daddy's money.
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Carol,
I saw it on the TV guide and wasn't at all surprised. TLC sure has a perverse fixation with filming multiples. There's not a chance in hell I'll watch anything on that channel again.
It is still a mystery to me what a gold digger like Katie Kreider saw in Jon in the first place. He wasn't working when she met him. Even back then he was just bumming around with absolutely no plans for the future. She must have been after his daddy's money.
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Obviously she was more interested in his "Gene" because she always wanted Asian Looking Babies. Katie even wished she was Korean.
You can't make this stuff up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHq7tEzjYVs
I forgot about that. She planned that too, to hell with consequences. Is it too much to hope she goes to Korea, finds herself another Korean man and stays there? (My apologies to Korea should that happen.)
North Korea, Please.
Julie has a new post up.
When will people get the fact that Jon, Kate and TLC place all these stories in the press? There are no paps trailing after them and no big reveals. Everything is calculated to keep the Gosselin name on the net and in the press. Just speculating on Jon getting a reality show proves their job is done.
jibber--
Don't forget Deanna Hummel, the first one that was confirmed as dating Jon.
Not sure where this post fits in, but has anyone else noticed that Kate's blog has not posted any comments for the last few days? Her latest entry about her alleged TV show has 0 comments.
Wonder what's going on over there …
I have NO INTEREST in any project that Jon wants to "star" in whatsoever. None.
Fact is I can't even fathom what Jon could contribute to any show.
See, once Jon backed down and allowed filming of his kids again, I lost all respect for him. The only redeeming thing he could do these days is to once again pull the kids off TV but it appears that is not going to happen.
I'm sure at this point that Jon wants what Kate has these days, an easy job with easy money. But their 15 minutes are about up ... it does appear to me that we are all sick and tired of All Things Gosselin.
I sure hope Al Walentis is about to publish his book - I admit that I'm counting on it "busting" the Gosselins for who and what they are and squashing any remaining public sympathy for them. If this is the case, Jon and Kate and the 8 will go away and off my TV forever.
Carol, I get so disgusted when I see comments like yours. You pretend to not watch TLC or Kate Plus 8 and then you say, oh, but I did watch Quintuplet Surprise and whoops! remembered my BAN on TLC. Please . . . either you have a ban and don't watch or you just say you have a ban and you DO watch.
It just gets annoying when people yammer on about how much they don't want the kids exploited yet continue to watch the show even after they say they won't watch the show. But somehow the channel mysteriously got tuned in to TLC or they were just walking by and saw it or the dog turned the channel to TLC or some lame excuse.
Admin,
I'm sure the goal of these two loser parents is to get as many shows that they can right now and bank the money because they have to know that there are only so many reality shows out there that they can do and they have to cash in now.
Kate has already done one other reality show - DWTS. She banked quite a bit of money off of that one.
If people keep tuning in, they will keep getting high ratings and keep cashing in. It's simple.
The more I think about this latest "newsy" tidbit, the more I'm convinced that Jon is trying to sell an IDEA for a show and not star in it.
That way, even if he personally cannot be in it due to the fact his balls are in a jar somewhere at TLC's HQ, Jon could still make easy money if a reality show is based upon a concept that he thought of and sold to a producer.
With all due respect to the producer mentioned, I still think interest in the Gosselins is going away and the people in Hollywood know this. After all, Kate's stint on DWTS backfired, big time.
Now as soon as K+8 and ToK are both off the air my life will be Gosselin-free.
Just read at popeeater.com that Kate Plus 8 salary is $700k. Kate gets $500k and the 8 kids all have to split $200k. And that's IF it's true. 15% of $700k is only $105k.
SchmeckyGirl
Ah NO, you have bad math. The 15% would be of the $200K.
200,000 x .15 = 30,000 / 8 little faces =
$3750 each.
Even if the kids got their full percent it would only be $30,000 per kid. AND..... Kate gets 1/2 million? Something stinks.
CJ,
Huh? lol.
15% of 700k is $105k or about $13k each kid.
I used that number based on what DOL said they have to get of the total salary paid. Am I wrong?
The article however, claims that they are getting paid $200k even, not 15%, so that works out the $25k per kid, if that's true.
Are you saying that they would only get 15% of the $200k put aside for them? Is that 15% put away in a trust? Where does the other 85% of the supposed earnings go then? I'm confused.
"Wrong.. Again, please state facts not tabloids lies.
Jon only dated Hailey, Morgan and Ellen.
Stephanie and Kate Major only used Jon to get their 15 minutes."
It depends on your definition of "dated." Dated, as in a relationship; dated, as in a one-night stand; dated, as seen in the presence of; dated, as in took out to dinner. If dated means any of the above then yes, he did "date" Stephanie and Kate, regardless of their motive in the whole thing. Of course, there may have been more that weren't even reported.
"I sure hope Al Walentis is about to publish his book "
Does anyone know the publisher of this book, and its release date (if there is one)?
My understanding is that Al is going to be publishing the book himself and once it goes to press it will be available very soon thereafter.
Oops, sorry, I forgot to add that I also understand from the Small Town Gosselin site that Al was about to have it finished by end of May but new interviews came up and will be included in final book.
SchmeckyGirl ~
Link to Julie's site:
http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/
Link to Rep Murt's site:
http://repmurt.com/NewsItem.aspx?NewsID=9057
Condensed version of the House Bill 2515 states:
•Require that 15 percent of a minor’s gross earnings be set aside by the employer in a trust for the minor. At least one parent or legal guardian shall be trustee of these funds unless otherwise determined by a court.
The kids are NOT to get 15% of the GROSS earnings. They are to have put in trust for them 15% of THEIR earnings. If the PopEater numbers are correct, then my numbers are correct for the amount that would go into trust for them. Kate would be allowed to spend the other 85% however she saw fit. She could say she was spending the 85% for their education, food, lodging, entertainment, etc. She could save every cent of her pay for her queenly self.
Kate is going to need every penny she can grift off those kids backs for when they are no longer marketable and she has no other income. The way she spends it seems like she thinks the show will go on forever.
One other thing. Who the f**k follows Jon Gosselin around to take his pictures. You know TLC is behind all of this just to keep the controversy alive, thus keeping their ratings up. J&K are nothing but fame whores. Little Collin, bless his heart, knows better than both parents.
Well, I just read a posting that suggests that Kate will do a dating show of her own- maybe even be the next Bachlorette. She could date single fathers and such. So, if that's the case and she does do one of these shows (which personally I find completely disgusting), then one could say that she has dated more people than Jon. Things are looking worse for the kids. This type of show would be completely unnecessary and embarassing! (can you imagine all the crying fits and the poor me stories)I loathe this woman and her entire brand! Stay out of show business already- you have NO talent!
There was something written about the kids only getting 15% of their portion (to split 8 ways), not 15% of the grand total. So I figured Kate gets the other 85% of their portion of the money. Why does she need their money and her money, unless she's greedy....and we all know that's not the case. ;)
Jibberjabbers said:
Wrong.. Again, please state facts not tabloids lies.
Jon only dated Hailey, Morgan and Ellen.
Stephanie and Kate Major only used Jon to get their 15 minutes
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Stephanie spent countless days and nights at Jons house in Wernersville, in a hot tub one night, overnight in the guest quarters, out drinking and they had a bangin good time.
Kate and Jon spent the weekend in the Hamptons together and they had a bangin good time.
Not the stuff the tabloids want us to believe but straight from the mouths of these two.
Thank you CJ!
I'd also like to add that it is POSSIBLE that Kate is putting 100% of their pitiful earnings away for them. I hope so. Just because the law says 15% doesn't mean they aren't getting more or all of it. I just want to be fair. We really don't know. Again, I hope so.
*smiles and waves to Kelly
I never got to acknowledge your reply the other day... You had me laughing.
Carol said...
Little off topic, but has anyone noticed the newest TLC child exploitin' show Quintuplet Surprise?
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I've been following their blog (the Jones family) for the past 4-5 mos. not religiously, but to check in now and then and find out whether they are going to get their own reality show on TLC. Still seems iffy. I've watched one of their shows. They were linked awhile ago, on Musings. Many folks, myself included, commented on the blog asking them to please reconsider doing this. But, as you said, they are supposedly in financial straits. He is a housing contractor/builder. They live in Austin, TX. The kids were born in Jan. or 09. Again, they are Christians, and their friends in the blog in resonse to many comments encouraging them not to do this, were vehement that "the Jones' are not like that" blah, blah. I will say, it doesn't appear the mom has all the workers and helpers Kate had w/her brood. None that I've seen. I'm at work, can't link the site now, but I will when I get home this evening.
SchmeckyGirl ~
Yeah, it is possible Kate is putting 100% of the kids earnings in their trust funds, and it's possible she's adding 90% of her earnings to it. Anything is possible, but it's not Probable.
My big question is... why is Kate getting over 70% of the gross salaries? The show isn't about her, it's about the kids and they are the stars, NOT Kate. At most Kate should receive 1/9 of the gross. That would be $77,777 not $500,000. Kids get screwed again.
Kates getting over 70% of the gross salaries just because she can. They are just little 3 foot kids and they really aren't that hard to bully and push around. If you yell at them, they will yell at each other. If you steal from them, they will steal from each other. If you hit them, they will hit each other.
Kate got away with doing this stuff to Jon. Now that he's not around to bully, she's got a plethora of victims to continue this behavior with. They are so easy to steal from too.
If you want it to stop and for these kids to have some kind of "normalcy" in their lives (though I think it's too late), stop watching the show. Stop "flipping through the channels," "stop accidentally walking by and seeing it on," stop setting your DVR's, stop watching the later broadcast, stop watching the first 10 minutes, and stop supporting their advertisers. It's that simple.
As someone who doesn't watch and refuses to click on any links of rag mags with stories of her, I see all these excuses as BS. I laugh when I see the outrage of someone who was just "flipping through." Give all of us REAL non watchers a break. Everyone who watches is just lining Kart, hopeless, lazy Jon, and TLC's pockets and contributing to the exploitation of the Gosselin children.
WOW. Less than FOUR HOURS after I posted here that it was really suspicious that there were NO COMMENTS on Kate's alleged blog, a whopping 34 comments mysteriously have appeared.
So maybe in the next week, we'll start seeing commercials for Kate's alleged new show? TLC is seriously pathetic.
I disagree that Kate is "getting" 70% of the salary. Sure, it *may* all go to her, but she is still providing food, a home, school, clothing, etc. for eight kids. You make it sound as if she doesn't provide for the kids and keeps every cent for herself.
GOOD FOR JON!! At least he is looking. Now its just a matter of will TLC allow him to work in addition to still being on TLC's payroll just to keep quiet??
hlc, 90% of the things you mentioned she gets for free or TLC pays for it. She doesn't provide sh*t except for access to her children so they can work for their keep. Those kids are doing the providing. The only thing she might pay for is school. But when you think about it, the kids are doing all the work. A poster at another board who lives i the area said when she goes to Giant, she doesn't pay a cent.
Sheeple will never "get it."
More to talk about:
http://www.okmagazine.com/2010/06/is-the-gosselin-brood-making-big-bucks/#more-1626252
So you think that Kate gets all of her groceries, her house, all the kids clothing, etc. free?
I just find that hard to believe. I'm sure she does get some stuff for free, expecially things that are on the show. She SHOULD get those free; those companies are reaping the benefits much more than her. However, I don't see how TLC could think she is that big of a moneymaker to pay for EVERYTHING.
I wonder if Jon is pimping out this story for a documentary series:"Daddy's Custody Time- A look at how a non-custodial father of 8 manages on his weekends with the 8 Count'em 8 children in a two bedroom apartment. Without Help.A stirring saga of sleeping bags, trips to the park, and forbidden food!With appearances by Ellen Ross.This week's adventurous episode includes never-before seen footage of the children smiling and having fun."
"So you think that Kate gets all of her groceries, her house, all the kids clothing, etc. free?"
I seem to remember a report out last year which detailed everything that TLC paid for. This included nannies, pool care, gardeners, and even dry-cleaning.
hlc said...
I disagree that Kate is "getting" 70% of the salary. Sure, it *may* all go to her, but she is still providing food, a home, school, clothing, etc. for eight kids. You make it sound as if she doesn't provide for the kids and keeps every cent for herself.
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The home, the food, the school , the clothes etc, is all being paid for by the kids. Kate has only earned a small portion of money on her own. The kids are the money makers. Kate is the one who wanted a large family (multiples in particular), so why does she feel the kids she wanted need to support themselves plus her ? Was it their idea to be born, or was it hers ?
I think we've already seen the reality show featuring Jon. He and Hailey with their immature behavior on a hotel balcony last summer in France. I don't think that any reality show featuring Jon as a divorced Daddy doing visitation with 8 spoiled kids would draw an audience. Who wants to watch 8 kids stuff their face with chewing gum and cupcakes? Who wants to watch 8 kids pummell each other fighting for floor space in their sleeping bags.
BTW.....off topic but the President of ABC said today that Kate could be the next Bachelorette. Go figure. Imagine 12 guys fighting over Kate for her attention and affection.
Why do you keep saying that its the kids moneys that shes using and that everything she has is being paid for by the kids? It is not being paid for by the kids it is being paid for by TLC. TLC gives the paycheck to HER in HER name making it HER money. If the paycheck is in the kids names I am sure she puts it in they're accounts because she is a good mother. IT IS HER MONEY SHE IS EARNING IT!
BTW.....off topic but the President of ABC said today that Kate could be the next Bachelorette.
Does ABC have some kind of death wish?
The Pennsylvania law says she can use the childrens' 15% to pay medical and educational expenses. She is so greedy, they probably owe her money by her accounting!
Anonymous said:
IT IS HER MONEY SHE IS EARNING IT!
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It is NOT her money. She's doing nothing but screaming, cackling, bossing, abusing and exploiting.
$700,000 per season makes her one pretty expensive Pimp.
"Why do you keep saying that its the kids moneys that shes using and that everything she has is being paid for by the kids?"
Because it is.
"It is not being paid for by the kids it is being paid for by TLC."
Huh? What are you saying here? This makes no sense.
"If the paycheck is in the kids names I am sure she puts it in they're accounts because she is a good mother."
Excuse me while I fall on the floor laughing...
" IT IS HER MONEY SHE IS EARNING IT!"
On what planet? How is she earning it? Those kids are her meal tickets. She knows it and TLC knows it. If she can do it alone, then Twisted Kate will generate big revenues, right?
There's a reason PA has required WORK permits. It's because the kids are WORKING! Was Kate issued a work permit? There's a reason that new child labor laws are being proposed. It's because it's child LABOR. As in WORK. Legislators aren't enacting these CHILD LABOR laws because they have nothing better to do with their time this summer!
Sheesh!
This guy is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Everyone was ticked when he was living high on the hog. Now he is in a modest 2 bedroom apartment and people are angry that it is so small. He is a freeloader with no job. So now he is shopping a show and again people are ticked.When Kate was doing DWTS people said she needs to support "her" 8 kids. So Jon is trying to support "his" 8 kids and he is a famewhore. Bottom line is neither has any marketable skills at this time.Sure Kate is a nurse, but can you even imagaine any compasion coming out of that shrew. Their only asset is the kids. So they are exploiting them as long as they can to live a life well above their means.They both live by the creed that any publicity is good publicity. The only way either one is going away is when they are no longer relevant. Right now they still can sell a magazine because someone will buy an issue with their mug on the cover. They still can pull in ratings because people are still curious. They want to tune in to just see the train wreck. However by doing that they are extending the 15 minutes. Ignoring anything these 2 are involved in is the only way to get rid of these 2 cockroaches. If you see them on a People mag, don"t buy the issue. Do not watch the show. Do not watch any show they are on. TLC will drop them when they are no longer pulling in the $$$.
"BTW.....off topic but the President of ABC said today that Kate could be the next Bachelorette."
Is she really that desperate to find a man? Are the men really that desperate to find a woman?
People aren't ticked that he is shopping a show. People are amused that he thinks he has talent to be on any television show. He's a no talent grifter that brings nothing to the table but a bloated belly and a knife, fork and spoon. He doesn't have a plate but he knows he can eat off everyone elses plate.
Anonymous~ Just out of curiosity (and I could not be more serious), what makes Kate Gosselin a good mother in your opinion?
Is your opinion based on the fact that Kate is earning a living thereby financially supporting her children?
I am truly curious why Kate fans defend her as a good mother. My definition of a good mother is a woman who protects their children. A woman who puts her children and their safety and well being above all else. A woman who works hard (whether she is a SAHM or WOHM) to provide a stable, loving, warm and safe environment for her children to grow. A woman who lives by example and not by words because children learn more from our actions than the lectures we give them.
I certainly am not a perfect mother. I have no right to judge other mother's based on outward appearance or first impressions. We all have bad days. However, I do have the right to voice my opinion on Kate's parenting skills because she has put herself out there and marketed herself as a "hard working mother of 8 who will do ANYTHING for her kids".
She lost my respect long ago when she continued to film and make money off of her own children and their reactions to their parent's divorce. She lost my respect when she decided picking out furniture was more important than her toddler's impacted bowels. (Apparently a constipated 3 year old makes for good television?)
She lost my respect when she took full credit for writing a book that she did not.
The bottom line is that she sees no problem in exposing her children's private thoughts to the world. She sees nothing wrong with the fact that her children have lost their childhoods to a big corporation who's primary interest is making MONEY.
I just don't understand (please help me to understand) how a mother who claims to love her children and will do anything for them, could share some of the most painful moments of their lives so far with the rest of the world for money? How is this good parenting?
"Does ABC have some kind of death wish?"
They probably know that it would be the biggest situation comedy to hit television in quite awhile. Can you see her on the hometown visits, with the bachelors' families grilling her? Would Steve go along to make sure that she doesn't lash out at them?
"The bottom line is that she sees no problem in exposing her children's private thoughts to the world."
...and private parts.
Anonymous...They both live by the creed that any publicity is good publicity. The only way either one is going away is when they are no longer relevant. Right now they still can sell a magazine because someone will buy an issue with their mug on the cover. They still can pull in ratings because people are still curious. They want to tune in to just see the train wreck. However by doing that they are extending the 15 minutes. Ignoring anything these 2 are involved in is the only way to get rid of these 2 cockroaches. If you see them on a People mag, don"t buy the issue. Do not watch the show. Do not watch any show they are on. TLC will drop them when they are no longer pulling in the $$$.
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You're right, of course, however, there's nothing you can say, no matter how logical, that will get people to stop talking about the Gosselins.
It's a vicious cycle. The more people talk, the more magazine covers, the more pictures appear, the more rumors of possible shows, which generates more talk, and so on and so on.
I can't figure out why people have made the decision to continue their part in lining the pockets of Kate Gosselin. They say they want her to go away, yet they spend hours of each day talking about her, saying the same things over and over again while they anxiously await the next photo op or magazine article to come out.
They cannot seem to understand that they are Kate's enablers as well. Or they refuse to see it, perhaps.
SchmeckyGirl said...
I'd also like to add that it is POSSIBLE that Kate is putting 100% of their pitiful earnings away for them. I hope so. Just because the law says 15% doesn't mean they aren't getting more or all of it. I just want to be fair. We really don't know. Again, I hope so.
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SG, I mean no disrespect, seriously. But do you feel you need to contribute these types of "politically correct" statements, (knowing full well that it's strongly probable that it's not true) in the event that Linda the Original, or any of the other BM 'followers' might visit here (again) and may call you out on something you said? I believe Linda did that not long ago on one of the comments you made.
P.S. Now it's being reported that Kate is bringing in $700,000 for her new show. I must say, all the gossiping and blogging and sniping didn't bring about the intended result they say they were hoping for.
Do all of you think your daily haranguing of Kate is going to make TLC pull her off the air? It looks as though just the opposite is happening. Filming as usual and rumors about an appearance on the Bachelorette show. Will that bring in another $500,000 or so?
Politically correct or not said... "....strongly probable????
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Hilarious! I think you just created a new oxymoron.
Again, there is no PROOF that Jon dated or slept with Deanna, Skanktoro or Kate Major. NONE. ZERO.
Skanktoro was the "Nanny", so of course she will be in the home. What is she suppose to do? Stand outside and watch the kids through telekinesis?
Again, no proof that Jon slept with Deanna, Major or Skanktoro. Major and Skanktoro all got paid for their "Stories" and that was the last your heard from them.
Skanktoro made no SENSE whatsoever. She was just reading from a script. Claiming that Jon was able to hack into back accounts, and bugged Kate's phone. LOL
RIGHT! I'm surprised the didn't wear an aluminum foil over her head in that interview.
Skanktoro also said that she CARED FOR THE KIDS and that the kids loved being FILMED...
If Skanktoro loved the kids so MUCH, why the hell did she "sleep" wink wink, with their father?
Because Jon is the hottest man on earth? LMAO.
She just jumped in the "I slept with this guy" bandwagon. To get her 15 minutes. Skanks do things like that. She GOT PAID for her "Story".
End of story.
Also if you look at Skanktoro's twitter account. Guess what? She's "following" Kate Major. LOL.
Heck, she's even following the same lawyer who is representing Hailey Glassman.
These people are all tied to one another.
CJ said...
My big question is... why is Kate getting over 70% of the gross salaries? The show isn't about her, it's about the kids and they are the stars, NOT Kate. At most Kate should receive 1/9 of the gross. That would be $77,777 not $500,000. Kids get screwed again.
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Kate is getting $500,000 plus the 85% from the kid's money, which is another $170,000. So $670,000 for a show where she forces her kids to work to support her and themselves. Not bad....and people think Kate's a dummy.
Is The Bachelorette a sinking ship? Because I can't imagine them having Kate Gosselin on unless they want to go out with a "bang".
Of course, this "dating" thing for Kate could very possibly be yet another TLC show. Who knows...but I just can't see ABC risking a viable show over Katie Irene. Were they NOT paying attention to her attitude/performance on DWTS? Are we now in Bizarro World?
Kelly...
Do you think they can find a dozen bachelors who think Kate's hot...and what kind of chaps would they be?
By the way. You certainly do come up with interesting metaphors and similes!
Anonymous said...
Why do you keep saying that its the kids moneys that shes using and that everything she has is being paid for by the kids? It is not being paid for by the kids it is being paid for by TLC. TLC gives the paycheck to HER in HER name making it HER money. If the paycheck is in the kids names I am sure she puts it in they're accounts because she is a good mother. IT IS HER MONEY SHE IS EARNING IT!
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Good grief. Look at it this way.... if those 8 kids weren't on that show, there wouldn't be a show. Period. The kids are earning the money and supporting their mother ! I guess you don't feel the kids are earning anything by doing the show . It's all Kate, right ? Newsflash... you're wrong. Without those kids, Kate would be nothing and no one would even know her name.
PatK - That's just it..ABC drew its biggest nos. when Kate was on DWTS. So, why not put her on The Bachelorette? Gawd, I can't picture Kate going on there, and kissing all those guys, and participating in some of the other things they do on that show, etc. Talk about awkward....ooh, it creeps me out just thinking of her being the 'female lead' in any show. I think "just saying" is probably correct, our hashing and rehashing of Kate, her pics, her shows, her kids, blah, blah, blah, on these blogs, is keeping her in the spotlight.
Carolina Gal said...
PatK - That's just it..ABC drew its biggest nos. when Kate was on DWTS. So, why not put her on The Bachelorette? Gawd, I can't picture Kate going on there, and kissing all those guys, and participating in some of the other things they do on that show, etc. Talk about awkward....ooh, it creeps me out just thinking of her being the 'female lead' in any show. I think "just saying" is probably correct, our hashing and rehashing of Kate, her pics, her shows, her kids, blah, blah, blah, on these blogs, is keeping her in the spotlight.
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And, here in black and white is just the reason TV networks may consider Kate a huge ratings grabber. That "ick" factor will get a lot of people to tune in, and with a few weeks/months of speculation (FREE PROMOTION) by all the bloggers, guaranteed advertising revenue.
Anonymous said...
Why do you keep saying that its the kids moneys that shes using and that everything she has is being paid for by the kids? It is not being paid for by the kids it is being paid for by TLC. TLC gives the paycheck to HER in HER name making it HER money. If the paycheck is in the kids names I am sure she puts it in they're accounts because she is a good mother. IT IS HER MONEY SHE IS EARNING IT!
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Now THAT is funny!
I was single for 7+ years after my divorce and dated many guys who had serious head issues after their first marriage. Jon's behavior the first year was par for the course. Especially after being treated like a dog by Kate for so long. I wonder exactly how he is expected to pay $20k a month in child support. TLC must be paying him off to keep the kids filming. But he couldn't possibly go back to doing IT work. No one would hire him based on his "celebrity" status, who would want a parking lot full of photographers waiting for Jon to go to lunch with someone or leave early? I have always liked Jon, he is real, funny, and a great dad who truly loves his kids and PLAYS with them. He bathed those kids and cared for them while Kate was at the spa or sleeping in or whining about everything. He did a whole lot more then my ex did for my two children!!! I think he is entitled to do whatever he needs to do to re-establish himself and move on. At the end of the day, he loves his children and he has a good heart. IMO. :)
Jibber --
Yes, there was plenty of proof that Jon dated Deanna. The press was all over it, and he was also filmed coming out of her house after staying overnight.
She was also filmed sunbathing in Jon's yard and her brother spoke to the press about Jon's overnight stays.
Personally, I agree with those who say that Jon was a better parent. He always enjoyed being more "fun" with the kids and he certainly did more than his wife as far as being a parent. He has unfortunately gone on a "dating binge" since Kate told him that she was done with him.
Donna A said...
I was single for 7+ years after my divorce and dated many guys who had serious head issues after their first marriage. Jon's behavior the first year was par for the course. Especially after being treated like a dog by Kate for so long. I wonder exactly how he is expected to pay $20k a month in child support. TLC must be paying him off to keep the kids filming. But he couldn't possibly go back to doing IT work. No one would hire him based on his "celebrity" status, who would want a parking lot full of photographers waiting for Jon to go to lunch with someone or leave early? I have always liked Jon, he is real, funny, and a great dad who truly loves his kids and PLAYS with them. He bathed those kids and cared for them while Kate was at the spa or sleeping in or whining about everything. He did a whole lot more then my ex did for my two children!!! I think he is entitled to do whatever he needs to do to re-establish himself and move on. At the end of the day, he loves his children and he has a good heart. IMO. :)
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I agree with most of the things you said. Especially the middle to bottom half.
Well, thank you jibberj! I'll take most :)
The only problem I have with Jon, is that he said the kids didn't want to be filmed anymore....that he thought the filming was detrimental to them...and then, when TLC strong-armed him into renewing his contract ($$$ for Jon's pocket)...he is now allowing the kids to be filmed.
A REAL dad would have told tLC to sue him until he was penniless, no more filming.
Politically Correct...
No. I'm not worried what anyone thinks about my opinion whether they read it here or there. I stand behind what I say here or there. Reading some of the posts here I feel that a lot of things are stated as known facts. I just try to be fair when possible. I personally feel there is a possibility whereas I know her fans all feel like it's a probability or even a certainty. I don't feel it's very probable at all either, but I do hope we are wrong.
I think he has just about hit penniless. Going up against a television network's legal team is not easy, he was screwed from the get go. Right now I am struggling to afford a lawyer to go up against a community vet and sheriff's deputy that want my dog put down because he ALLEGEDLY bit two of their llama's in the ear and mouth (long story but he did not do it and I'm fighting for his life). Sadly, whoever's got the most money wins in this society, at least 98% of the time. I don't have money but I do have hope and faith that sooner or later, morality and virtue will prevail over the almighty dollar. Don't hold your breath though.
SchmeckyGirl said... Reading some of the posts here I feel that a lot of things are stated as known facts.....
Not sure why trying to be fair is considered going over to the other side. It sure does annoy a lot of people though---to go against the general consensus, many of which are based merely on speculating.
I know if it was MY kids, and they didn't want to be filmed anymore, they wouldn't be.
TLC can sue Jon all they want to...you can't get blood out of a turnip!
He can't be that broke..all those trips, airline seats,et al, aren't free.
If I was 'broke', going on trips would be the last thing on my mind.
I posted a few days ago that there was NO SHOW for Kate and Twist of Kate was a big, fat lie.
Another poster responded saying, just watch the "big announcement" will be about her show in a few days since it was brought up here that TLC has never said anything definitive about Twist of Kate.
And now she's the new bachlorette? Puh-leese. More "look at me, look at me, keep me relevant.: Never happen in a million years, unless they offer each bachelor $50K to appear. Seriously, WHY would any man go out with Kate after seeing her behavior?
And AGAIN: What about Twist of Kate? TLC still has NOT ever said exactly what the alleged show is about or when it will actually air. The ABC announcement is just a smokescreen, and it is recycled at that. There were rumors last year of Kate doing a dating show. Yawn. It's so predictable, I wish Vegas would put odds on Kate's behavior/TLC strategy. I'd love to bet money on it.
I'm not here to argue, simply discuss. Have a great evening.
heather said... I wish Vegas would put odds on Kate's behavior/TLC strategy. I'd love to bet money on it.
Another one making money off Kate! Sorry, couldn't resist. ;) This is getting so riduculous.
They were filming for Twist of Kate. But, since Jon allowed the kids to film, TLC is banking on the kids and have put all productions toward filming the kids. Kate Plus 8 is on halt.
Sure they filmed a few episodes already but why the hell did TLC air Kate Plus 8 first? When Kate Plus 8 didn't start filming til late last money or early this month?
Jon who?
Im sure Jon has something going on too. He let the kid be filmed for a reason. They promised him something im sure. He hasent had anything bad to say about Kate for a while.
I've only seen part of the Bachelorette once so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there an unspoken implication that part of the testing out process involves sexual behaviour?
If I'm right, then I ask myself why someone with 8 children who are already in the public eye would debase herself and her family to that extent.
I'm not stuffy about non-marital sex (although I AM stuffy about bad taste); but as a grandmother of 5 I would like to ask Kate's mother when she is going to emerge from the fog and give her daughter the good slap upside the head which she deserves. If the Gosselins were my grandchildren, you can bet I would do whatever was necessary to shield them from the ugly publicity that Kate as Bachelorette would be sure to bring.
Of course, if the Kreiders think this is all OK, or are just going to do nothing but pray for the kids' welfare, then those kids are lost for sure.
Jibberjabbers,
For Christ Sake, I thought you were more reasonable than that. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that both Stephanie and Kate slept with Jon. Stephanie told her mother and her mother went on national television saying the same thing. I didn't read it on a tabloid site. I saw it with my own eyes.
Kate Major was pissed that Jon used her for whatever his penchant is and she too went on a national television show and said as much. This isn't tabloid rumor this is out of the mouths of babes. Trust me. I know all about hearsay evidence and wouldn't and couldn't use it in any testimony. I also know what res gestae is and both of these individuals invoked it.
IDModo said...
I've only seen part of the Bachelorette once so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there an unspoken implication that part of the testing out process involves sexual behaviour?
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You bet there is. I've seen three episodes, and the man and woman du jour spent a lot of time being thisclosetoeachother, rubbing legs, kissing, going on adventures (like snowboarding, skydiving, riding horses, etc, depending on what the Bachelor or Bachelorette likes to do. There are times when it's clear they plan to spend the night together. There is plenty of booze on hand which tends to loosen people up. The whole premise is sexual, as in you have to be beautiful and you have to have great sex appeal to qualify. Yep, it's a very provocative show that no 9 year old girl I know needs to see her mother on. Sorry, but I think the whole show is totally tasteless in premise and in presentation. I realize some like it, but I don't think the Gosselin 8 deserve this.
Just sayin.. said...
.....................You're right, of course, however, there's nothing you can say, no matter how logical, that will get people to stop talking about the Gosselins.......................................They say they want her to go away, yet they spend hours of each day talking about her, saying the same things over and over again while they anxiously await the next photo op or magazine article to come out.
So.....why are YOU adding to a discussion that you want no part of?
From E! online:
Is Kate really doing a dating show? We have the answer:
"Not true," a rep at ABC tells us. And an insider at ABC confirms this, saying there is no dating show with Kate on their development slate.
Kate's TLC rep has this to say: "The Life & Style info is inaccurate. Kate is working on two shows, Kate Plus 8 and Twist of Kate, and that is all.
Read more: http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b186130_kate_gosselin_really_doing_dating_show.html#ixzz0r4AqMaDw
Everyone take a deep breath. She's not going to be on Bachelorette. ABC can cancel the black roses.
PA Mom said:
By the way. You certainly do come up with interesting metaphors and similes!
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It was the Catholic Nuns who did this to me. I have plenty of broken knuckles to prove it.
"If I'm right, then I ask myself why someone with 8 children who are already in the public eye would debase herself and her family to that extent."
If I understand this correctly, it is NOT supposed to be the "regular" Bachelorette, but a special edition of the show. Perhaps the format will be different, with little or no emphasis on the sex aspect that is seen during their standard format
Marie,
I think you need to take a deep breath or something. I had never even heard of the Jones or this show before I was looking around for something to watch last night. The TV I watch doesn't have an on-screen guide, so you have to actually go through the channels.
I don't even have DVR nor would I bother to record anything TLC puts on the air.
My few minute glance at a show is not going to keep it on the air or get it off, geez.
As far as Kate goes, her time is running out anyway. Even giving her the attention this blog gives her (as good as this blog is!) feeds into the publicity, surely you can see that. So by commenting here, you are part of it too.
The Gosselins will not be remembered in two year's time or less.
And if you ask me, TLC is nailing their coffin shut, too, with all their weird freaking programming that has been turning people off for a while now. They're going to have to totally re-tool their network in the next year or two, mark my words. Everyone I talk to sees that network as a JOKE. What is it my friend calls it? Oh yeah, the "Breeders and Midgets Channel." He's very politically incorrect, but there you go.
Seriously, I'm not so upset about a network that it controls me as much as it seems to control you. You'd be more effective boycotting their sponsors, too.
This story was planted ages ago and has been recyled and planted again. TLC and ABC denied it from the beginning.
I like the theory Kate is being strung along trying to keep interest alive. They HAVE filmed Twisted Kate, it was months ago with Kate's old haircut. She was outed in North Carolina filming cooking at a restaurant. An inside source suggested that in test runs, it tested very poorly and that's why it hasn't aired yet. So the theory is TLC continued to string Kate along knowing they needed to keep Kate happy so she'll keep letting them film the kids. Patience won out for TLC and they were finally able to buy Jon off and get the kids back. Now the focus is on the kids because shows with the kids do better for them than just Kate. But they still have to play Kate like a piano promising her all kinds of stuff, play the public like a piano promising various shows, to keep the train rolling. This reminds me of a Ponzi scheme....at some point, the house of cards will fall. They just keep robbing Peter to pay Paul.
As for Jon, what is he afraid of? For TLC to clean him dry? They can't send him to jail. They can't take his kids they're HIS KIDS! He has no house for them to take. How much money can he really have for them to take? You can sue someone for millions but the reality is if they don't have millions, you won't see a dime! He chose money over the kids period. There were plenty of good lawyers out there happy to represent him that could have gotten him out of the contract with his children intact--i.e. no more filming. Instead all TLC had to do was dangle enough money in front of him and he relented. He is LAZY, period. He would rather take a pile of cash and run rather than face having to actually go out there and get a real job. And his children are the vicitms. Because of his laziness they have to go back to work.
Many people seem to forget, these kids belong to Jon and Kate. TLC has no right to use them as bargaining chips. They are Jon and Kate's kids and if they don't want them to film, TLC needs to back the f--- off. It is disgusting. They are NOT TLC's kids.
Moon and Mango, that is exactly the way the President of ABC said it. IT would be a special edition of the show. I can't imagine for the life of me, how they could ever come up with a script where there is any emphasis on the sex aspect that is seen in the standard format.
Kate, in my humble opinion is like a cold shower after a bevy of porn stars are serving me nachos and lap dances while my Yorkies bark incessantly and the doorbell is ringing.... all at the same time.
There is nothing that ABC, Mortuary Scientists, Makeup Artists or FX professionals can do to make her anywhere close to being a bachelorette, worthy of fawning males who deem her attention to be a life long dream.
I'd rather have a root canal, on the hour, every hour and then a swift kick in the frontal part of me that hovers three feet above the ground than to ever be a part of a show where Kate is the Bachelorette. Leporsy is more enticing.
OK, she won't be on Bachelorette. I still wonder why Grandma Kreider doesn't slap her upside the head. I don't believe in corporal punishment but I would make an exception in this case, if Kate were my daughter.Those children need grandparents who will stand up for them and try to save them from what their mother is doing to them.
IDModo,
We need more grandmothers like you. A good swift slap upside the head to the offending parent, a well stuffed club sandwich for the kids and an "I TOLD YOU SO" lecture. That's what I'm talking about.
anyway u can make him smaller?
So, then, this was erroneous information:
"RadarOnline did say that Ryan Seacrest supposedly talked to Bachelor franchise creator Mike Fleiss and ABC head honcho Steve McPherson to get their thoughts on it. Fleiss said he had never thought about it but that it would have to be a special edition of the show... McPherson seemed a little more excited saying it would be great.."
How does one know what to believe?
Schmeckygirl,
Point well taken. However, Jon denied taking money out of the family account and then said he only took what was his supposed salary. Then when it got time to go to court, Jon changed his story and public record is that Jon took out more than he said. Jon's not without fault here. He's got more scum on him than a Blue Heron in the Gulf of Mexico right now.
Kelly,
Stephanie's mother? How credible is a woman that goes on a sleazy tabloid website and tells the world her daughter had sex with a married man... And in a hot rub while the kids slept... Besides, isn't that hearsay? That's not proof. It basically boils down to He Said She Said. Jon denies it. He admitted to Hailey while he was still married and that's it. Deanna denied it too.
I don't think any one of them is more believable than the other.
The fact that Lohan introduced Jon to Kate Major and was recording conversations and wanted a reality show etc makes me very wary of Kate Major and anything she says. JMO
Very well stated, Admin. Thanks for the forum!
Anonymous said...
Not sure why trying to be fair is considered going over to the other side. It sure does annoy a lot of people though---to go against the general consensus, many of which are based merely on speculating.
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It's comments like this that make me think some people just don't "get it".
IF you've sen Kate constantly whining, complaining, bitching, shopping, buying designer clothes and shoes, getting a new car, $7000 hair extensions, "jet-setting", IF you've seen her using her kids, then saying SHE works, but the kids are just doing what they would be doing anyway, if you've read and heard she turned down 'used' gifts from her dad's congregation, including a van, but it wasn't the "color" she wanted, IF you saw her treating her ex-husband like a dog, ditto for her children, saying she doesn't 'like' her fans, IF you saw her naming and scooping up 'her' dog, in spite of them being Xmas gifts for the kids, oh, and then sending said dogs away no matter what the kids thought or felt, if you saw her showing that she is the one that wants to be the constant center of attention, if you see Kate using all her family and friends, then kicking them all to the curb when they don't agree w/everything she does and have outlived their usefulness, if you see she is never giving back, in spite of having had so much given to her in the way of tummy tucks, hair plugs, free food, free clothing, house makeovers, the list goes on and on and on... IF you see her spending her time and money weekly, on tanning, nails, hair, massages, if you see her getting breast implants, IF you see her asking for another free year of the baby-nurse and saying it's "society's responsibility" to pay for that, if you've seen her being rude and crass when her church redid her house and gave of their time and monies, IF you've seen her 'begging' for money from people who can ill afford to part with it while she (and Jon) are quite well off by that time, if you've seen her time and time again, throw her children's father under the bus, if you've seen or caught her in more lies than you can count....IF you've seen ALL of this and MORE, and you still don't "get it", then you are at best naive, at worst, just clueless and living in la-la land!
Sorry for such a long post.
IDModo,
That is probably what happened when Kate & Jon decided to shill their kids to bring in all those $$, freebies, etc. If not a slap, then one hell of an argument and hence the estrangement from the family. Kate has turned sacrificing family for fame into a hobby.
Oh, the Jones' web site...I promised this earlier today when I was at work.
http://www.joneslife.net/category/the-fab-five/
Carolina Girl,
Don't apologize. I actually enjoyed your long post. And I agreed with it! Except for the hair extensions part because I don't believe she actually paid anything for them. They were another freebie... So I think they should stay in your list somewhere. ;)
The people on here say 'Oh, there's no PROOF Jon slept with X, Y or Z' and in the same breath say 'Of course Kate is sleeping with Steve! My eyes are all the 'proof' I need!' Nice double standard, there.
IDModo,
Kate hasn't sacrificed anyone in the family for a hobby. She's just doing what most pimps do. The only difference between Kate and a Pimp is she doesn't have curb finders and mud flaps on the family bus. Perhaps that's coming with the next TLC show where Kate browbeats the kids as they try to adjust the gangster lean to Kates liking in the console of the Sprinter.
Actually I wrote that Kelly. I don't think she's the pimp though, she's the madam. TLC is the pimp.
Not sure of if that was directed toward me but I've NEVER insisted Kate was having an affair with Steve. I don't think anyone can know that for sure either. There were witnesses who CLAIMED they saw them holding hands and another that CLAIMED Mady saw them kissing. I'm not sure I believe any of it. No proof there either. I don't even think it's true in my gut because I can't see Steve finding her attractive (sorry to say that but it's in her defense. Lol)
Thanks Kelly, but Kate probably wouldn't listen. I would probably see a lawyer to find out what my rights are as a grandparent and then exercise them to the fullest extent.I would also come out from under the fog machine and go public, regardless of the consequences to me.
On the famous other hand, what might Kate say or do that is keeping those grandparents from doing the right thing? I don't believe they have been bought off by TLC, as many think.
(It was Auntie Ann that said they were sacrificed for a hobby,not me...)
SchmeckyGirl,
I Too don't believe Kate and Steve are an item, no matter what has been said or written. Steve is as passive as Jon. I can't see anyone finding Steve attractive or Kate attractive. Neither the two shall meet.
I'm tired of hearing that it was kate who was the reason for the high ratings on DWTS.If people ONLY tuned in to see kate,then why didnt kate + 8 have 20 plus million viewers for the 1st new show?
If I read right,it was said the kids new show only had 3.4 million people watching.So where the hell is the other 17 million people??
Again...I dont click on anything kate.I dont even click the links on this site or GWOP.Any new info I hear about the Go$$elins come from reading here and GWOP.TLC needs people to click and respond about them.They dont care if we cant stand her or love her.It only matters that people go on and on and on about them.
The only people who can save the 8 are US...the public.We need to make all things Go$$elins a non issue.With no ratings the show WILL go away.With no clicks on anything kate stories...they will get fewer and fewer.When a show has no one talking about it ...the show goes POOF!!
"Leporsy is more enticing."
Is that similar to leprosy, but it only affects the frontal part of you that hovers three feet above the ground?
It's a common misconception I see in courts every day that grandparents think they have rights to their grandchildren. To put it simply, grandparents have no rights to a parents' children--sort of! The 2000 Supreme Court case that controls is Troxel v. Granville that said a Washington state statute that allowed grandparents to petition for visitation of the grandkids was UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Kids belong to their parents and a grandparent has no right to interfere with that relationship if a parent opposes it.
Kate can estrange the grandparents for good reasons, bad reasons, or no reason at all, and there is a very good chance there is NOTHING they can do.
PA actually has had some pretty liberal grandparent visitation and custody laws that push the envelope that have not yet been taken up to the Supreme Court in light of the 2000 Supreme Court case. They allow grandparents to petition for visitation and custody....of course they have to prove it's in the children's best interest which is very hard when the kids barely remember these people anymore. Eventually the courts will be forced to really decide whether PA's laws are constitutional.
Moon and Mango,
I hope and pray I don't get leprosy in the frontal part of me. My girlfriend would be royally pissed. So sorry about the spelling mistake.
22Starz,
There are only two people who can save the Gosselin 8, and apparently they've decided not to.
SchmeckyGirl said...
Kelly,
Stephanie's mother? How credible is a woman that goes on a sleazy tabloid website and tells the world her daughter had sex with a married man... And in a hot rub while the kids slept... Besides, isn't that hearsay? That's not proof. It basically boils down to He Said She Said. Jon denies it. He admitted to Hailey while he was still married and that's it. Deanna denied it too.
I don't think any one of them is more believable than the other.
The fact that Lohan introduced Jon to Kate Major and was recording conversations and wanted a reality show etc makes me very wary of Kate Major and anything she says. JMO
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I agree. Stephanie and her lovely mother were trash , and out to make a buck. radar/TLC probably paid them a fortune for their stories, especially when they (radar/tlc) were all about bashing Jon to make Kate look like a saint. IMO, Michael Lohan and Kate M were up to no good from the very beginning. I'm not sure what I think about Deanna, but I don't think it was a love affair. I feel that Jon truly loved Hailey, but she used him to get herself into the spotlight. Morgan... rebound relationship from Hailey. I don't particularly blame Jon for testing the waters after living with that shrew for 10 years.
Admin,
I agree with you with regards to grandparents rights to visitation. Parents should have the ultimate decision as to who can and cannot see their children. Just being a blood relative or a grandparent shouldn't be carte blanche for visitation.
Parental rights should be paramount in most situations unless there is abuse. Granted, parental rights aren't absolute and spite, anger and denial play into parents who decide who can see and not see their children but the children shouldn't be used as barter between parents and grandparents.
It's Kate's and Jons right to not let their children see their grandparents for whatever reason. Is it right for the children? We'll never know but it's their decision to not allow it. Unless the Grandparents can prove abuse by the parents, I don't see any legal ground for them to stand on in demanding to see the grandchildren. Sadly, the kids are denied their heritage but ultimately, it is the parents decision and when we take away those parental rights, right or wrong, we take away freedom.
I personally would hate a law that allowed grandparents more "rights" to a child. My mil is toxic. There is good reason she does not spend much time with my children. It boils down again to the parents being the child's protector! I don't want some lame parents who can't take the role of "parent" seriously, taking away my rights as a parent (hopefully that makes sense)
Right, Kelly. Just because many of us think it's a real shame that the grandparents don't see the kids doesn't mean we believe the law should force them to.
I think the law should get involved when it comes to putting your six-year-olds to work. I don't think it should get involved on who and who is not in your kids' lives (absent letting someone abusive around your kids).
I love my parents but a court sure as hell better not be ordering that they be allowed to see any grandkids.
The Kate lovers would be proud....this area is nobody's business!
And we really don't know why the grandparents are not involved. Am I highly suspicious and can make a reasonable inference? Yes. Kate has estranged half a dozen seemingly nice people, she has a pattern here.
But there is that chance they could have been abusive or toxic. There could be good reason they are not around the kids.
ANd if there is not a good reason, well then we're just back to, this is a real shame. My grandparents were good people and they enriched my childhood beyond recognition.
I think Kate has a lot of asexual qualities about her. She and Jon didn't seem all that sexual, she and Steve have zero chemistry, she doesn't seem to have a need to have sex in her life or be physical with a man.
Or she's just a man eater.
AuntieAnn said.. So.....why are YOU adding to a discussion that you want no part of?
Because I, too, am a Kate addict. I admit it though whereas you all cannot, and I am slowly weaning myself away from the ugliness, the fruitlessness and the frustration of it all. As the fog clears I see how ridiculous and time wasting this all is, and how small-minded everyone sounds, not to mention angry. Just read Carolina Gal’s post and you can hear the anger. Why do you all want to participate in things that make you that angry? While Carolina Gal goes on and on about what someone else doesn’t “get” she fails to mention that you are TLC’s free advertising day in and day out. Talk about not getting it.
There’s a (to be extremely politically incorrect) trailer-trash quality to this petty gossip plus a holier-than-thou feel about it all that makes me want to stand under a shower for a long time after I make yet another foray into Hate Katesville. One day I won’t need the fix and can get back to life with no Kate lurking in the background. And I imagine you all will still be rehasing her every move, and speculating on what she’ll do next telling yourselves that you’re making a difference somehow or other.
I think there is some guilty pleasure in it, I will admit that.
There has been nothing in any press to deem the grandparents abusive, intrusive or obstructionisnt with regards to these kids. Jon's own admission that his father bought the kids the swingset and he had sentimental value with moving that swingset from one house to another showed some attention to the family.
Other than that, we've never seen either grandparent in a show except for the wedding renewal. Whether it's a choice by Kate or Jon to keep them out of the picture or a choice by the grandparents to stay out of the public eye is between the family.
I was the 7th of 8 kids growing up so I never knew my grandparents as they died long before I was born. I'm the father of three kids and loved having my parents in my kids lives and they did too. When my parents passed away, my kids were devastated as they were such a large part of my kids lives. I'm glad they have that memory. I don't know that bond between a grandchild and a grandparent but my kids sure did. I'm glad for it. They still talk about their grandparents to this day.
Just sayin, I don't care how much free advertisement TLC gets, if no one watches K+8, they are not going to make any money. No Money = No Kate. Non fans have to stop watching. The sheeple cannot keep the show going, there aren't enough of them.
Kelly, I'm glad at least your kids got to have that.
A relationship with a good grandparent is a unique and wonderful thing for a young person.
Among the many positive things I've noticed about my 11 cousins and I (big family on that side) having a close relationship with our grandparents is that we are all very comfortable and respectful of older generations. Some kids are scared of old people or grow up thinking old people are just grouchy and a nuisance and have nothing to offer. It is nice to have positive seniors in your life.
I get this odd sense Kate never appreciated the elderly. All she has to say about Jon's older relatives is they are "cute", like they have nothing else to offer at their age.
pa mom too said...
Just sayin, I don't care how much free advertisement TLC gets, if no one watches K+8, they are not going to make any money. No Money = No Kate. Non fans have to stop watching. The sheeple cannot keep the show going, there aren't enough of them.
I agree with that. The speculation that arises each time a new picture comes out, however, raises the curiosity level. The chicken coop pictures for example have generated a lot of curiosity and people will be tuning in because of all the chatter. THAT is free advertising.
Ms. Wakefield, to you said...
The people on here say 'Oh, there's no PROOF Jon slept with X, Y or Z' and in the same breath say 'Of course Kate is sleeping with Steve! My eyes are all the 'proof' I need!' Nice double standard, there.
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Yet, you deny Kate is sleeping with Steve or Jamie, but believe Jon has slept with Deanna, Kate Major and Skanktoro..
Why?
Since you believe everything you read from the tabloids..
Mady caught Kate kissing Steve
Kate and Jamie
Maybe not the Bachelor. But I would watch Kate self destruct on Big Brother. I know that show is like watching paint dry-but, Kate would be in her glory with all of those cameras on her. There would be other Type "A" personalities in the house who wouldn't coddle her.
She could leave her kids to 'work' as she's a single mom you know. And the best part is it would be 'All for her kids'.
marie said...
It just gets annoying when people yammer on about how much they don't want the kids exploited yet continue to watch the show even after they say they won't watch the show. But somehow the channel mysteriously got tuned in to TLC or they were just walking by and saw it or the dog turned the channel to TLC or some lame excuse.
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Yeah, you were just flipping by on commercials or the cat walked on the remote, blah, blah, blah. Reminds me of a funny story... I was in Germany 7 years ago. I was fumbling in the dark, trying to turn off the TV with the remote. Didn't I accidently press the wrong button and upon checkout the next morning had to pay for viewing a porn movie. The hotel would not remove it from my bill b/c it was a third-party charge. There ya go: You just never know what you're watching!!!
"One day I won’t need the fix and can get back to life with no Kate lurking in the background."
Out of curiosity...why do you need it now? Is quitting cold turkey not an option?
"Just read Carolina Gal’s post and you can hear the anger."
Isn't it interesting that a post can be perceived in different ways? I didn't 'read' any anger in this post at all. What I sensed was FRUSTRATION, as the poster recited a litany of all that was wrong with the total picture -- the greed, the freebies, etc., pointing out that there is a myriad of reasons why posters find the whole Gossellin fiasco disturbing.
"While Carolina Gal goes on and on about what someone else doesn’t “get” she fails to mention that you are TLC’s free advertising day in and day out."
As are you, by your own admission of being an addict.
"You just never know what you're watching!!!"
Or who's watching you watch it!
am i the only one?
Just sayin.. said...
"...As the fog clears I see how ridiculous and time wasting this all is,
...Why do you all want to participate in things that make you that angry?...
There’s a (to be extremely politically incorrect) trailer-trash quality to this petty gossip plus a holier-than-thou feel about it all that makes me want to stand under a shower for a long time after I make yet another foray into Hate Katesville."
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lol. Then I suggest you forego the temptation to make that foray into Hate Katesville. It will probably lower your blood pressure and your water bill.
15 minutes Gosselin Style invites people to hold Jon and Kate's feet to the fire because they deserve to be dissected lie by lie. I come here to bury Kate, not praise her.
This may post twice, something happened when I tried to post the first time.
Thanks Admin for your info about grandparents' rights. I think it's different here in Canada. I believe we have the right to petition for access to grandchildren and it's up to the court whether to grant that access.Of course the court will not grant access to relatives proven to be abusive.
What I meant was that if I believed my grandchildren were being abused or exploited, I would take every legal means to have access to them. IMO children are not anyone's property and they have the right to see their extended family members.
I would do this only after I had exhausted every effort WITHIN the family to have the situation corrected.I'm not a meddlesome Grandma; I have great confidence in my daughters' ability to raise their children well, as they are doing,and the result is 5 happy, healthy and well-rounded kids.
But if my daughters were doing to their children what Kate is doing,you can bet I would intervene in any way possible.
Kate has proven time and time again that she can't function in a world that does not let her have her own way. Jon wanted to quit filming, she divorced him. The neighbors wanted her to quit filming, she moved away. Her parents wanted her not to take the filming job, she cut them out of her life. Ditto with siblings and friends. Nobody can be with those kids unless they are on board with TLC and have signed the confidentiality agreements. Kate insisted on having Steve to buffer the public - not the fans, she barely has any, but the loony tunes who wish her harm. Kate is a shell of a human being, void of genuine relationships. Her money makers are her family, her money making crew are her family, her money making staff are her family, and she is bestest friends with anybody in show business who can keep her in the limelight. TLC has to keep her and the kids on the move because when you look up close at them you realize they are quite isolated from the world and they don't have normal relationships. Everything about them is contrived, put on for a show, handed to them to sell a product. It is worse than Groundhog Day because these are children who need to develop and create healthy relationships and friendships and they don't stand a chance. Kate sacrificed them to be rich and famous. And when they self destruct, she'll try to get rich and famous off their turmoil too.
Well said mama mia.... still hopeful her 15 minutes is up soon.
just another girl...
Bravo, Mama Mia. Very well put. You are so right, nothing about Kate is real. And sadly, she had to drag her poor children into her un-reality and keep them there.
When you think about it, Kate's actions are that of a control freak. She isolates the people she keeps in her life (specificaly her children)by keeping them away from family and friends, she keeps them off balance with her moods, she marginalizes what is important to them (i.e. Collin's Buddy and Mady's ornament) and threatens to discard them.
Why? Because it's easier to control people when they are off balance. That is how Kate operates. She did the same thing to Jon until he finally left.
"While Carolina Gal goes on and on about what someone else doesn’t “get” she fails to mention that you are TLC’s free advertising day in and day out."
I'm confused as to why you are using the pronoun "YOU." Shouldn't you say "we" since you are also blogging on here as a self-professed "Kate addict?"
Question:
Have there been any promos for Twisted Kate? Any clips, teasers, etc.? Is there really such a show? Have any other blogs, internet sites, rag sheets featured articles about the first show...where she's going, who she is "helping?" What about the sheeple she is supposedly assisting? I would think that if episodes have already been shot, the sheeple featured in the episodes couldn't keep their mouths closed about it and certainly would be bragging up and down, right and left, that Kate was at their house, they met Kate, Kate is God, ad nauseum. Has any of this spilled over into the media?
Well they did film her working at a restaurant, but the alleged show is now supposed to be about her helping others.
There has been no mention of filming, traveling for filming, leaked photos to the press, any publicity on radaronline, no media tour with Kate pimping her show on various morning and entertainment shows, no exclusive interviews by Katie Coyne of People or Meredith Vieira. Should I go on?
The premise for the "helping other families" show won't work as sheeple would NEVER in a billion trillion years be able to adhere to TLC's strict privacy/confidentiality agreement seeking the families first born and livelihood should they talk about what happened before, during and after the filming of this alleged show. Kate would never be able to hold it together for that long if she was in a position to speak freely. And the sheeple would get both an eyeful and an earful.
Aside from the fact that Kate, just Kate, is NOT marketable. Why do you think TLC aired the tups show first, then the Kate intv/media/PR machine show? If they had flipped them, there wouldn't have been an audience for either show. As it was, the second hour lost half a million viewers.
There is no show. There will be no show. It's all just blather and PR.
**I would think that if episodes have already been shot, the sheeple featured in the episodes couldn't keep their mouths closed about it and certainly would be bragging up and down, right and left, that Kate was at their house, they met Kate, Kate is God, ad nauseum.**
Yet another reason why they can't film a show. No normal person would be able to adhere to TLC's nazi-like confidentiality policy. Kate cannot be around the "little" people because she would act ,like, well Kate. And the sheeple couldn't be on the show, because they would act, like, well, sheeple.
There is no show for Kate, no matter how many times TLC keeps trying to pretend there is.
being 51 and only the slightest bit grey (as opposed to my 5 years younger brother) I am wondering - when Kate dies, will there be 3 wills and a battle over who gets her body and a photo of her on life support in some tabloid magazine?
(I'm down to one entertainment "news" show per day. yay! Gary seems to be the latest scandal. Wonder what happened to Larry King's scandal? Not that I was ever sure what it was about more than just an opportunity for me to be able to hit fast forward again)
"Our" bunny appears to be gone. I am sad. The last day, it was running to me and trying to climb my legs with that Feed Me look on its face.
Snuggles is fine but not particularly cuddly lately. She's *still* nesting, though we took her egg away after she ate its contents.
Well they did film her working at a restaurant, but the alleged show is now supposed to be about her helping others.
There has been no mention of filming, traveling for filming, leaked photos to the press, any publicity on radaronline, no media tour with Kate pimping her show on various morning and entertainment shows, no exclusive interviews by Katie Coyne of People or Meredith Vieira. Should I go on?
The premise for the "helping other families" show won't work as sheeple would NEVER in a billion trillion years be able to adhere to TLC's strict privacy/confidentiality agreement seeking the families first born and livelihood should they talk about what happened before, during and after the filming of this alleged show. Kate would never be able to hold it together for that long if she was in a position to speak freely. And the sheeple would get both an eyeful and an earful.
Aside from the fact that Kate, just Kate, is NOT marketable. Why do you think TLC aired the tups show first, then the Kate intv/media/PR machine show? If they had flipped them, there wouldn't have been an audience for either show. As it was, the second hour lost half a million viewers.
There is no show. There will be no show. It's all just blather and PR.
This may post twice, something happened when I tried to post the first time.
Thanks Admin for your info about grandparents' rights. I think it's different here in Canada. I believe we have the right to petition for access to grandchildren and it's up to the court whether to grant that access.Of course the court will not grant access to relatives proven to be abusive.
What I meant was that if I believed my grandchildren were being abused or exploited, I would take every legal means to have access to them. IMO children are not anyone's property and they have the right to see their extended family members.
I would do this only after I had exhausted every effort WITHIN the family to have the situation corrected.I'm not a meddlesome Grandma; I have great confidence in my daughters' ability to raise their children well, as they are doing,and the result is 5 happy, healthy and well-rounded kids.
But if my daughters were doing to their children what Kate is doing,you can bet I would intervene in any way possible.
Just sayin.. said...
"...As the fog clears I see how ridiculous and time wasting this all is,
...Why do you all want to participate in things that make you that angry?...
There’s a (to be extremely politically incorrect) trailer-trash quality to this petty gossip plus a holier-than-thou feel about it all that makes me want to stand under a shower for a long time after I make yet another foray into Hate Katesville."
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lol. Then I suggest you forego the temptation to make that foray into Hate Katesville. It will probably lower your blood pressure and your water bill.
15 minutes Gosselin Style invites people to hold Jon and Kate's feet to the fire because they deserve to be dissected lie by lie. I come here to bury Kate, not praise her.
IDModo said...
I've only seen part of the Bachelorette once so please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there an unspoken implication that part of the testing out process involves sexual behaviour?
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You bet there is. I've seen three episodes, and the man and woman du jour spent a lot of time being thisclosetoeachother, rubbing legs, kissing, going on adventures (like snowboarding, skydiving, riding horses, etc, depending on what the Bachelor or Bachelorette likes to do. There are times when it's clear they plan to spend the night together. There is plenty of booze on hand which tends to loosen people up. The whole premise is sexual, as in you have to be beautiful and you have to have great sex appeal to qualify. Yep, it's a very provocative show that no 9 year old girl I know needs to see her mother on. Sorry, but I think the whole show is totally tasteless in premise and in presentation. I realize some like it, but I don't think the Gosselin 8 deserve this.
Ms. Wakefield, to you said...
The people on here say 'Oh, there's no PROOF Jon slept with X, Y or Z' and in the same breath say 'Of course Kate is sleeping with Steve! My eyes are all the 'proof' I need!' Nice double standard, there.
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Yet, you deny Kate is sleeping with Steve or Jamie, but believe Jon has slept with Deanna, Kate Major and Skanktoro..
Why?
Since you believe everything you read from the tabloids..
Mady caught Kate kissing Steve
Kate and Jamie
I'm not here to argue, simply discuss. Have a great evening.
I know if it was MY kids, and they didn't want to be filmed anymore, they wouldn't be.
TLC can sue Jon all they want to...you can't get blood out of a turnip!
Politically Correct...
No. I'm not worried what anyone thinks about my opinion whether they read it here or there. I stand behind what I say here or there. Reading some of the posts here I feel that a lot of things are stated as known facts. I just try to be fair when possible. I personally feel there is a possibility whereas I know her fans all feel like it's a probability or even a certainty. I don't feel it's very probable at all either, but I do hope we are wrong.
Donna A said...
I was single for 7+ years after my divorce and dated many guys who had serious head issues after their first marriage. Jon's behavior the first year was par for the course. Especially after being treated like a dog by Kate for so long. I wonder exactly how he is expected to pay $20k a month in child support. TLC must be paying him off to keep the kids filming. But he couldn't possibly go back to doing IT work. No one would hire him based on his "celebrity" status, who would want a parking lot full of photographers waiting for Jon to go to lunch with someone or leave early? I have always liked Jon, he is real, funny, and a great dad who truly loves his kids and PLAYS with them. He bathed those kids and cared for them while Kate was at the spa or sleeping in or whining about everything. He did a whole lot more then my ex did for my two children!!! I think he is entitled to do whatever he needs to do to re-establish himself and move on. At the end of the day, he loves his children and he has a good heart. IMO. :)
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I agree with most of the things you said. Especially the middle to bottom half.
Anonymous said...
Why do you keep saying that its the kids moneys that shes using and that everything she has is being paid for by the kids? It is not being paid for by the kids it is being paid for by TLC. TLC gives the paycheck to HER in HER name making it HER money. If the paycheck is in the kids names I am sure she puts it in they're accounts because she is a good mother. IT IS HER MONEY SHE IS EARNING IT!
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Now THAT is funny!
I was single for 7+ years after my divorce and dated many guys who had serious head issues after their first marriage. Jon's behavior the first year was par for the course. Especially after being treated like a dog by Kate for so long. I wonder exactly how he is expected to pay $20k a month in child support. TLC must be paying him off to keep the kids filming. But he couldn't possibly go back to doing IT work. No one would hire him based on his "celebrity" status, who would want a parking lot full of photographers waiting for Jon to go to lunch with someone or leave early? I have always liked Jon, he is real, funny, and a great dad who truly loves his kids and PLAYS with them. He bathed those kids and cared for them while Kate was at the spa or sleeping in or whining about everything. He did a whole lot more then my ex did for my two children!!! I think he is entitled to do whatever he needs to do to re-establish himself and move on. At the end of the day, he loves his children and he has a good heart. IMO. :)
Politically correct or not said... "....strongly probable????
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Hilarious! I think you just created a new oxymoron.
SchmeckyGirl said...
I'd also like to add that it is POSSIBLE that Kate is putting 100% of their pitiful earnings away for them. I hope so. Just because the law says 15% doesn't mean they aren't getting more or all of it. I just want to be fair. We really don't know. Again, I hope so.
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SG, I mean no disrespect, seriously. But do you feel you need to contribute these types of "politically correct" statements, (knowing full well that it's strongly probable that it's not true) in the event that Linda the Original, or any of the other BM 'followers' might visit here (again) and may call you out on something you said? I believe Linda did that not long ago on one of the comments you made.
"Does ABC have some kind of death wish?"
They probably know that it would be the biggest situation comedy to hit television in quite awhile. Can you see her on the hometown visits, with the bachelors' families grilling her? Would Steve go along to make sure that she doesn't lash out at them?
"BTW.....off topic but the President of ABC said today that Kate could be the next Bachelorette."
Is she really that desperate to find a man? Are the men really that desperate to find a woman?
Anonymous said:
IT IS HER MONEY SHE IS EARNING IT!
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It is NOT her money. She's doing nothing but screaming, cackling, bossing, abusing and exploiting.
$700,000 per season makes her one pretty expensive Pimp.
Why do you keep saying that its the kids moneys that shes using and that everything she has is being paid for by the kids? It is not being paid for by the kids it is being paid for by TLC. TLC gives the paycheck to HER in HER name making it HER money. If the paycheck is in the kids names I am sure she puts it in they're accounts because she is a good mother. IT IS HER MONEY SHE IS EARNING IT!
hlc, 90% of the things you mentioned she gets for free or TLC pays for it. She doesn't provide sh*t except for access to her children so they can work for their keep. Those kids are doing the providing. The only thing she might pay for is school. But when you think about it, the kids are doing all the work. A poster at another board who lives i the area said when she goes to Giant, she doesn't pay a cent.
Sheeple will never "get it."
WOW. Less than FOUR HOURS after I posted here that it was really suspicious that there were NO COMMENTS on Kate's alleged blog, a whopping 34 comments mysteriously have appeared.
So maybe in the next week, we'll start seeing commercials for Kate's alleged new show? TLC is seriously pathetic.
*smiles and waves to Kelly
I never got to acknowledge your reply the other day... You had me laughing.
One other thing. Who the f**k follows Jon Gosselin around to take his pictures. You know TLC is behind all of this just to keep the controversy alive, thus keeping their ratings up. J&K are nothing but fame whores. Little Collin, bless his heart, knows better than both parents.
Oops, sorry, I forgot to add that I also understand from the Small Town Gosselin site that Al was about to have it finished by end of May but new interviews came up and will be included in final book.
"Wrong.. Again, please state facts not tabloids lies.
Jon only dated Hailey, Morgan and Ellen.
Stephanie and Kate Major only used Jon to get their 15 minutes."
It depends on your definition of "dated." Dated, as in a relationship; dated, as in a one-night stand; dated, as seen in the presence of; dated, as in took out to dinner. If dated means any of the above then yes, he did "date" Stephanie and Kate, regardless of their motive in the whole thing. Of course, there may have been more that weren't even reported.
SchmeckyGirl
Ah NO, you have bad math. The 15% would be of the $200K.
200,000 x .15 = 30,000 / 8 little faces =
$3750 each.
Even if the kids got their full percent it would only be $30,000 per kid. AND..... Kate gets 1/2 million? Something stinks.
Not sure where this post fits in, but has anyone else noticed that Kate's blog has not posted any comments for the last few days? Her latest entry about her alleged TV show has 0 comments.
Wonder what's going on over there …
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