Another excellent article about the lack of protection for reality children, which names the Gosselins.
The L.A. Times' independent investigation found that many reality show productions are not following any child labor regulations (many productions believe reality shows are exempt or that there are no laws in the first place to follow), and 17 states are without any child labor laws for child performers. Many are calling for national laws to protect all child performers, instead of leaving it up to each state.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-reality-kids-20100627,0,939452.story
48 sediments (sic) from readers:
I read this last night and thought it is probably the best one to date. I especially like how Bill Hayes seems so defensive....the frying pan is heating up!!!
Thank you for posting this article. It's encouraging to see that the media is finally addressing how children's rights are being ignored on reality TV. And how appropriate to use a picture of the Gosselin family to make the point!
Bill Hayes, whose company produces K+8 said, "We have always uncategorically put our subjects' needs above our own, because we're beholden to them for sharing their story with the world." Un-freakin-believable!!
Beholden? Like "We be holden them to their contracts come hell or high water?!" He is such an idiot. (Bill Hayes, not you anon ;) )
The article states that reality kids don't have a safety net. Isn't that the parents' job, to protect their own kids? Kate, in particular, is a shining example of parents putting their own greed and desire for fame above all else. How perfect that she is being called out for the crap mother that she is
Mommyinca, yeah, I didn't think you were calling me an idiot. LOL
I've sent a link to the above article and also the article by the sociologist Hilary Levey to The View and asked them to familiarize themselves with both and maybe they can come up with some meaningful questions to ask Kate now that the mainstream media is catching on to the farce of reality tv.
Anonymous @ 9:45 AM - Well done!! Hopefully Joy and Whoopi can come up with the meaningful questions.
Sorry... I don't know if this is the right place to post this.
Check out this video on My Fox Philly.
There is no guestion that the Gueen Of Mean, will be on The Bachelorette.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/good_day_philadelphia/kate-gosselin%3A-the-next-bachelorette%3F
Think about it....
ABC owns The Bachelorette francise.
KKate was not seduced. She wanted her life on tape from day one.
That's why behind all the tears, she's basically happy.
....just missing the ability to kick a man around on a daily basis.
Judy said...
Check out this video on My Fox Philly.
There is no guestion that the Gueen Of Mean, will be on The Bachelorette.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/good_day_philadelphia/kate-gosselin%3A-the-next-bachelorette%3
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I went to the above site and I did not get the impression that this was a done deal. In fact I think it is more likely than not that TLC will do a "Date Kate" show or make it part of "Twist of Kate" before they farm her out to ABC again.
As long as the kids are not part of this dating show I could care less about what happens on said show.
BUT if/when there is a dating show and whether it is on ABC or TLC, I will NOT be watching. I'm sick of this lying bitch.
That being said, I will even say that if Jake Pavelka and Kate hook up - which will not surprise me since they are both nothing more than reality TV personas with no talent and their 15 minutes are running out and they both know it as was evidenced by the tears when they were eliminated on DWTs - it will all be fake. Lies. Jake and Kate will get together just because they have to do it while the iron is still hot.
The kicker is now that the above article, as well as the one from yesterday is out, proof that mainstream media is sick and tired of All Things Gosselin, Kate's 15 minutes are definitely running out. Add the fact that Al's book is about to hit the shelves and I wonder what Kate will be doing, if anything, by the end of this summer.
There is always hope that she will forgotten by Labor Day, right?
JMO.
TO SAVE THE 8 DO NOT WATCH OR RECORD KATE PLUS 8
Judy said...
Check out this video on My Fox Philly.
There is no guestion that the Gueen Of Mean, will be on The Bachelorette.
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I got a chuckle "of course we don't know what Kate would say"....I can answer that...she'd say, how much does it pay and where do I sign up? Yes, there will be a Bachelorette type show for Kate..yuk. Though it sounds like the 2 women on the clip have her number.
I think that Kate will begin to see her so called career going down the tubes. Her time on "Fairy Tale Land" is coming to an end.
May take a few months, but it will end.
Too many people are finally beginning to see what all of us have seen since the beginning.
She is a fake, phony, piece of trash with no talent, that pimps out her kids for cash and fame.
Judy said...
I think that Kate will begin to see her so called career going down the tubes. Her time on "Fairy Tale Land" is coming to an end.
May take a few months, but it will end.
Too many people are finally beginning to see what all of us have seen since the beginning.
She is a fake, phony, piece of trash with no talent, that pimps out her kids for cash and fame.
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Different Judy, but I could have written that.
"I wonder why so many people have gotten fooled by the whole manufactured, fakeness of reality TV."
I copied the above statement from a posting on GWOP and I have to say that... I was one of those people that got fooled. Me and just about everyone else on these blogs.
According to the LA Times article, the PA Dept. of Labor and Industry ordered Figure 8 (the show's film production company) to take out permits and set aside 15% of the show's proceeds in a trust fund for the twins and sextuplets.
Operative words: SHOW'S PROCEEDS.
Operative words: SHOW'S PROCEEDS
OMG!!!! No wonder Kate is crying poor these days and the kids can't go to college!!!
In other words Kate is being paid but there are NO SHOW PROCEEDS to go into the ONE trust account for ALL EIGHT (8) kids to share because Jon and Kate, when they first signed the original contract without attorney representation, were so desperate to get on TV that they accepted the provision that the Gosselin family does not get any residual income from the repeated airing of their show and/or sales of any merchandise bearing their image!!!
Admin, is this your understanding of the initial contract too?
What, exactly, are the proceeds from the show?
I thought proceeds meant what the show brought in, in revenue.
The contract reads "15% of the Gosselin Kids' COMPUTED GROSS INCOME".(Article on "A minor Consideration").I think that this means that now the kids are being paid, 15% of their gross earnings is set aside.There doesn't appear to be any provision to make this retroactive to before the DOL deemed them to be employed.
"Proceeds" seems to be a journalistic way of saying this, but it's misleading.We are talking about 15% of $200,000 for Kate+8, or $30,000.
Meanwhile Kate is getting $700,000. And the kids' money is a revocable trust, that can be dipped into for certain expenses.
The children are being royally RIPPED OFF.
When and if Whoopi gets a wind of this you can be sure she will bring this up, she is the only one with balls on that show who went toe to toe with Gosselin....The rest are liss me arse wimps
I am done with all thing Gosselin. I'm tired of her lies, tired of her media controlled appearances and tired of her voice, her name and all things attached to it. She's nothing but a TLC/ABC hack that they continue to rise from the rubble once they think she is losing stock.
I've said everything imaginable about Kate Gobblin and have read that much more. She feeds on the acrimony from these blogs and that's what keeps her in the news. Polarizing, disention and all that comes with her desire to stay in front of the camera lense.
My last words about Kate Gosselin are these:
Disgusting
So not hot
A horrible mother
A horrible wife
A terrible actress
A fraud
A phoney
Abusive
Ego centric
Narcissit
Evil
A waste of time.
The media will continue to spin her lies and she will continue to spin them with her self absorbed importance, she will continue to stay in the tabloids, the news and in our face as long as we continue to talk about her.
She is the worst human being, mother, wife, friend and significant other that anyone could bring into their lives. I just wish she would go away............far far away........
Kelly said... "She feeds on the acrimony from these blogs and that's what keeps her in the news......The media will continue to spin her lies and she will continue to spin them with her self absorbed importance, she will continue to stay in the tabloids, the news and in our face as long as we continue to talk about her."
Yes, Kelly, you are right, as I've been trying to point out. I understand your frustration. Another frustrating thing is so many will not/cannot stop talking about her. It IS an addiction. Kate lives as long as the talk/speculation/gossip continue.
Kate needs to go away, but first, she and TLC need to face silence. No links posted on blogs from their gossip magazines of choice, no articles with scores and scores and sometimes hundreds of comments.
SILENCE, COMPLETE and TOTAL SILENCE from the public.
Find other things to do.
STOP TALKING ABOUT KATE.
NO RATINGS = NO SHOW
SAVE the 8.
Penn State is an excellent school, a public school and they are residents. Also offers lots of grants and scholarships. There is something called financial aid, too. What's wrong with Penn State?
The bottom line is tons of people make far less money than Kate ever has and managed to set up a good 529 for their children.
I have no problem putting the kids in private school. I wish my parents could have afforded private for me, I would have thrived. I do have a problem with forcing them to work to pay their own tuitions. If they have to keep working just to afford this very expensive school, then no it's not worth it IMHO.
Both Jon and Kate have made more than enough money from selling thier kids privacy to send ALL of them to college.If this was truly thier plan...they have made that money and then some! BUT we know thats not important to them.
Kate wants fame...kate yerns to be in the spotlight and live the life of a celeb. A life she HAS NEVER had.But one she thinks she's entilted to.This bitch needs a smack back into reality...HER reality!!!
This means DONT watch the damn show...DONT click on anything kate...dont go to radar on line.Give her NO attention! I give her none...other than this site and GWOP.Dont comment on what she wears/or dosent wear. Dont talk about her shoes or boobs or anything else.
If you talk about her thats all that matters.They dont care if its good or bad...what matters is that WE are talking about her.
Just try and help the kids. Are the labor laws being followed? Again its so easy to say...If YOU dont watch IT will go away!!
We know the kids are working and paying for thier up-bringing..the school...food ect...DONT WATCH FOR ANY REASON OR EXCUSE and she will go away!
I have to laugh when I hear.."my cat hit the remote and kate was there"...My kids were watching...I went to make tea and there she was!
PLS...come on people...REALLY its that easy!! Watch nothing with kate.And she will go away.I hate to say its all of us so-called haters keeping her in the headlines.Like Kate knows 90% of people cant stnd her...we are the ones keeping her where she wants to be!Her sheeple dont hold the numbers that the smart people who know better do!
I have a question that is slightly off topic. Recently my TV strayed on to shows such as 'Tori and Dean: Home Sweet Hollywood' and "Kendra". These got me thinking about other 'reality' shows that feature children. My personal feeling was that these shows are not about the children, but rather about the parents. The children are featured as incidentals to their parents lives (and I have to say that in the case of both shows, from the little I watched (ie episode here and there) they all seem like great parents.) rather than the whole point of the show.
I was wondering what other posters thought abou this?
While the Duggar's show is clearly about the kids (it's the title) Jon & Kate seems to be about the parents ... only it's not. I certainly wouldn't tune in to Jon & Kate + spoiled only child. The whole point of the show is the fact that most of us can't fathom that many kids at once.
As a teacher I find the way Kate carries on about her 8 insulting at times. Now I now I don't live with my 30 darlings (although we do take our kids away on a 2 week camp ... but that's 120 kids I'm responsible for, not a handfull of 8) but I still manage to deal with all of them without too many dramas. We know from reading Kates Blog (which is already starting to get old, didn't I read 'sockgate' a week ago, but it referred to Hairbrushes?) that she is certainly a drama Mama!
Anyway I'd appreciate hearing what everyone things, and apologise Admin if I'm out of line and off topic.
I agree with JudyK's comment.
It seems that Kate, through her PR team, managed to at least have most of last year coming her way...with many reports of how she was struggling, many pics of how glam she had become, many interviews where she teared up and got some more support.
Now you will notice that she is plastered all over the internet and TV with the words "bad botox?" which I take to mean that her honeymoon with the media is over.
Also, as many know, Al W.'s book is emerging and with a lot of extra stories coming out about her, a lot more people will become aware of what's really going on.
Well it might as well be official. She is filming the kids somewhere cause ROL is talking about Jon Boy again and no pics of their skank for days since she went to dinner with her BFF. Last time she went to dinner they sneaked away to film now same thing...Jon gets a tattoo...big deal
Judy said "There is no guestion that the Gueen Of Mean, will be on The Bachelorette".
I really can't think of any man that would enter that "contest" if Khate was the Bachelorette. I doubt even Richard Dawson would want to kiss Khate!
You forgot one thing Kelly -- she is the biggest liar around. They are too numerous to name, but you all know them. She lies when the truth would actually be a better story. Her day will come, she has no talent whatsoever and when those kids hid puberty, watch out. What goes around comes around.
Here is an interesting and sad bit of news about a former tennis champ http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/06/reports-jennifer-capriati-hospitalized-because-of-overdose.html
The reason I bring this up is because she began her tennis career at a very young age. On my way in to work this morning I was listening to Greg and the Morning Buzz on the radio and they were talking about this woman and about reports that her father was very overbearing and pushy with her regarding her tennis career. Greg then mentioned that when it comes to children and their parents, the kids want their approval and to make them happy. Thats what drives them.
Are there paralells here between Jennifer and the future that the Gosselin children may be facing? Kate and Jon pushing these kids to film all the time, taking them out of school, interfering with their summer vacation, giving them expensive toys when cameras are around. And what if they didn't want to film? Of course they will film, they want to please mum and dad and get their approval. Sad thing is, the only approval they get, from Kate, is in front of the camera.
Never mind college, Kate needs to save money for 8 legal name changes when those kids don't want to be associated with being the Gosselin Kids from reality tv.
Hi Puddymoors.
I’ve never heard of “Kendra”, but I used to like watching Tori & Dean. I haven’t been able to find it this year (I’m in Canada; maybe it wasn’t picked up). You’re exactly right in your assessment. The shows “Inn Love” and “Home Sweet Hollywood” were vehicles for Tori and Dean. She just happened to become pregnant along the way and the kids are just there in the background because I believe the couple truly love the kids and enjoy hanging out as a unit. Since the kids are still toddlers there’s no reason to believe they’re being given direction or reading lines. I certainly hope it stays that way.
My in-laws didn't WANT my husband to go to college and never gave him more than a few dollars gas money. He worked and earned it and insisted our kids do the same. (He has multiple advanced degrees including one from William and Mary!)
Our 4th is about to gradate from a state university. They attended on scholarships, grants, loans and working part time.
Turning back the hands of time is not an options when it involves children. If these children grow into troubled adults,it's to late,no second chances in this department.The only ones to blame are TLC and their two greedy parents.
There is no way that Whoopi will say anything negative about that witch on The View-not because she doesn't want to, but that network/baba wawa would NEVER allow her to!
Hi Laura D,
Kendra (I'm not sure if that's the name of the show) follows the life of 'Playboy Playmate' Kendra Wilkinson after she leaves the Playboy mansion and marries some kind of sports star named Hank Baskett ... I think. They also have a very young child.
Denise said...
My in-laws didn't WANT my husband to go to college and never gave him more than a few dollars gas money. He worked and earned it and insisted our kids do the same. (He has multiple advanced degrees including one from William and Mary!)
Our 4th is about to gradate from a state university. They attended on scholarships, grants, loans and working part time
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As did my 3 daughters. Also, my ex-husband was the first and only one in his family, ever, to go to college and to grad. school, and obtain his PE license in NY. I'd like to mention, IMO, kids that have an 'investment' in their education, that is, they help pay for it, are much more inclined to work hard and put their nose to the grindstone, than if Mom and Dad foot the bill for everything! That being said, the G8 HAVE worked to pay for their college, and it should be an option, if they choose to go. (PS, William & Mary is in 'my' neck of the woods, I grew up in Norfolk, do you by chance live in the Tidewater area Denise)
Denise said...
My in-laws didn't WANT my husband to go to college and never gave him more than a few dollars gas money. He worked and earned it and insisted our kids do the same. (He has multiple advanced degrees including one from William and Mary!)
Our 4th is about to gradate from a state university. They attended on scholarships, grants, loans and working part time
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As did my 3 daughters. Also, my ex-husband was the first and only one in his family, ever, to go to college and to grad. school, and obtain his PE license in NY. I'd like to mention, IMO, kids that have an 'investment' in their education, that is, they help pay for it, are much more inclined to work hard and put their nose to the grindstone, than if Mom and Dad foot the bill for everything! That being said, the G8 HAVE worked to pay for their college, and it should be an option, if they choose to go. (PS, William & Mary is in 'my' neck of the woods, I grew up in Norfolk, do you by chance live in the Tidewater area Denise)
There is no way that Whoopi will say anything negative about that witch on The View-not because she doesn't want to, but that network/baba wawa would NEVER allow her to!
Never mind college, Kate needs to save money for 8 legal name changes when those kids don't want to be associated with being the Gosselin Kids from reality tv.
Hi Laura D,
Kendra (I'm not sure if that's the name of the show) follows the life of 'Playboy Playmate' Kendra Wilkinson after she leaves the Playboy mansion and marries some kind of sports star named Hank Baskett ... I think. They also have a very young child.
You forgot one thing Kelly -- she is the biggest liar around. They are too numerous to name, but you all know them. She lies when the truth would actually be a better story. Her day will come, she has no talent whatsoever and when those kids hid puberty, watch out. What goes around comes around.
Judy said "There is no guestion that the Gueen Of Mean, will be on The Bachelorette".
I really can't think of any man that would enter that "contest" if Khate was the Bachelorette. I doubt even Richard Dawson would want to kiss Khate!
I have a question that is slightly off topic. Recently my TV strayed on to shows such as 'Tori and Dean: Home Sweet Hollywood' and "Kendra". These got me thinking about other 'reality' shows that feature children. My personal feeling was that these shows are not about the children, but rather about the parents. The children are featured as incidentals to their parents lives (and I have to say that in the case of both shows, from the little I watched (ie episode here and there) they all seem like great parents.) rather than the whole point of the show.
I was wondering what other posters thought abou this?
While the Duggar's show is clearly about the kids (it's the title) Jon & Kate seems to be about the parents ... only it's not. I certainly wouldn't tune in to Jon & Kate + spoiled only child. The whole point of the show is the fact that most of us can't fathom that many kids at once.
As a teacher I find the way Kate carries on about her 8 insulting at times. Now I now I don't live with my 30 darlings (although we do take our kids away on a 2 week camp ... but that's 120 kids I'm responsible for, not a handfull of 8) but I still manage to deal with all of them without too many dramas. We know from reading Kates Blog (which is already starting to get old, didn't I read 'sockgate' a week ago, but it referred to Hairbrushes?) that she is certainly a drama Mama!
Anyway I'd appreciate hearing what everyone things, and apologise Admin if I'm out of line and off topic.
According to the LA Times article, the PA Dept. of Labor and Industry ordered Figure 8 (the show's film production company) to take out permits and set aside 15% of the show's proceeds in a trust fund for the twins and sextuplets.
Operative words: SHOW'S PROCEEDS.
The article states that reality kids don't have a safety net. Isn't that the parents' job, to protect their own kids? Kate, in particular, is a shining example of parents putting their own greed and desire for fame above all else. How perfect that she is being called out for the crap mother that she is
I read this last night and thought it is probably the best one to date. I especially like how Bill Hayes seems so defensive....the frying pan is heating up!!!
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