Well, at least she has some common sense.
We don't often post about Jon's female friends because most of them are pathetic attention whores, but this interview bears repeating.
Jon's girlfriend of a few months Ellen Ross gave her first interview to Pop on the Pop and dished on their first date (it was a blind date), Jon's tattoo (she was friends with the artist and referred Jon), and how Jon tries not to read the headlines (apparently unlike papa-paparazzi Kate).
As for doing a reality show? Ellen says, "No. I have no interest in doing that. I never have, never will. I would NEVER do [a reality show], that is not the direction that I’d ever want my life to go into." Sheesh how refreshing. Imagine that, someone who turns down a reality show. I guess if Ellen were in Kate's shoes, she in fact WOULDN'T do the same thing.
And apparently Ellen hasn't estranged her whole family yet. She says, "I’m very down to earth. I like to avoid drama and I have a lot of close friends and I’m close with my family. I just try to go with the flow and take things as they come to me. I’m pretty personable. I’m easy to get along with."
Hey, we like her. And we like how she is with baby Collin, who appears to be suffering the most at the loss of his privacy.
http://poponthepop.com/2010/07/ellen-ross-talks-to-pop-on-the-pop/
142 sediments (sic) from readers:
Yeah...but...she sold out to RadarOnline, didn't she? I assume she and Jon split the $$. And so it begins. Can't ANYONE associated with Jon keep their pieholes shut?
So, why do an interview then?
Is there anyone who is associated with the Gosselins that hasn't cashed in on the Gosselin children?
I don't think so.
Just keep this in mind...every single interview from any outlet, means that a pretty good paycheck is already in their pocket.
Like Vienna got $50,000 for her first interview after the big breakup.
By the way... the only book I'm buying is Al's book.
Judy said...
Is there anyone who is associated with the Gosselins that hasn't cashed in on the Gosselin children?
I don't think so.
Just keep this in mind...every single interview from any outlet, means that a pretty good paycheck is already in their pocket.
Like Vienna got $50,000 for her first interview after the big breakup.
By the way... the only book I'm buying is Al's book.
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Al is cashing in on the Gosselins too, but I guess it's okay as long as he's got some good dirt that you're dying to hear.
Sorry, but I'm just not buying the Ellen thing. Ellen's looking for her 15 minutes on the back of Jon's fading 15 minutes and she can have Mother Theresa baptize her with all that is good and golden but I'm not buying it
Jon brings nothing to the table but his name. Ellen brings alot to the table, her youth, her looks and there is no way in hell she is an innocent one, looking to stay in the background and knows nothing about Jon and his travails.
This is another media op, and yet again, another opportunity for Jon to stay in front of the camera and bitch out his ex by having a younger girl. No girl, at that age wants anything to do with a guy at Jon's age, plus the fact that he has 8 friggin kids. This girl has got to be thinking, " I want kids but he's got too many"
It just won't work and she's playing the cameras like the Gosselins do. Don't believe it, won't believe it and it's all for the lense.
Yep, agreeing with the others. If she REALLY wanted to stay out of the public eye, she'd never give an interview in the first place. To ANYONE.
Hell, she'd also think twice and three times about even dating Jon.
If Ellen likes to avoid drama, why on Earth would she get together with the likes of Jon : divorced father of 8, highly publicized and nationally televised demise of marriage, ex-wife is a trampy, greedy, famewhore. Yeah, what a CATCH.
I'm with you all, I don't buy it.
BTW to JonandKatesuck - sorry that we had the same handle, you can have it back and I can change mine !
Hey, $ Makes the World go Round...you're darn right Al Walentis is cashing in on the Gosselins! And I'll gladly contribute for the juicy information. Cha-ching!
I am also interested in reading Al's book. I wonder if Kate & Jon are prepared for this....
I too think Al is just one in a long line of folks cashing in on the Gosselin kids. "Exploitation by proxy", if you will. Kelly, ditto on everything you said re: Ellen. I'm sure we'll be hearing more from her...she'll start "warming up" to the paps, give her time. Wink, Wink
You might notice I've never once done a post about Al or his alleged book. I permit discussion of it, but I too think he's just exploiting them. Until he proves otherwise I'm not all that interested in promoting him on this blog. There's a lot out there about the Gosselins but probably only 40% of it makes it to a post on this blog. I do think carefully about each post. I'm flattered people think this blog is keeping them in the media. I doubt it, but it's nice you think so!
I think if Ellen continues to do interviews and show herself in pulic, both of which she has done at the very minimum, I'll change my mind. But this was ONE interiew, it was well thought out to set the record straight. She wasn't saying anything controversial or media-whorish. She didn't trash anyone. She didn't trash Kate. She made it clear she's against reality shows. It's nice that a young person like her realizes what reality shows can do to you. She sounds like a nice young girl. And their own mother doesn't hold and play with the kids like she does. I think she's good for Jon and the kids. The longer she lays low the more I think she is positive for the family. At this point anyone positive in these kids' lives is a good thing. At least we know they won't be filmed when they are with her. I remain cautioiusly optimistic.
I like her too.
That picture of a relaxed Collin makes me happy to see. All the kids look relaxed and stress-free. That's what childhood is SUPPOSED to be!!
Judy said... ^*Is there anyone who is associated with the Gosselins that hasn't cashed in on the Gosselin children? By the way... the only book I'm buying is Al's book.
PatK said... ^^you're darn right Al Walentis is cashing in on the Gosselins! And I'll gladly contribute for the juicy information. Cha-ching!
So it's ok to cash in on the Gosselins if they share your point of view. So it is all about the gossip. I'm not surprised.
"Hey, $ Makes the World go Round...you're darn right Al Walentis is cashing in on the Gosselins! And I'll gladly contribute for the juicy information. Cha-ching!"
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I'm not from Missouri, but you still have to "show me." I'll believe that there is such a book when I have it in my hands!
I've got to agree with the others who don't feel right about Ellen doing either this interview or the one with a blog that routinely trashes Jon. Hasn't anyone associated with this family ever heard the words "no comment"????
Kates theory of relativity said...
So it's ok to cash in on the Gosselins if they share your point of view. So it is all about the gossip. I'm not surprised.
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Nor am I.
Ellen didn't talk to Radar Online, did she?
I thought the interview was with some unknown site, Pop to pop???
"So it is all about the gossip."
IF Mr. Walentis has book coming out, I would think the contents wouldn't be based on gossip. If it were, he's be wiped out by the libel suit that would ensue.
Al Walentis worked for the Reading Eagle for many years. He spent a few months working for US magazine, strictly on the Gosselins.
Admin - I was wondering if you knew anything about what criteria is needed for a celebrity to sue for slander / libel.
With Al Walentis' book coming out soon, I keep seeing posts about how Jon and Kate can sue. I thought that because Jon and Kate are celebrities that they have a much tougher time proving that they have been damaged.
Could you provide some insight into this? Thanks.
Lauren, to break it down pretty simply, if a public figure wants to sue for libel (print) or slandar (oral), they have to prove BOTH 1. false statement of fact and 2. actual malice
I suspect the Gosselins are going to have big problems proving either one of those. The statement has to be FALSE. Therefore if Al says Kate is having an affair with Steve and she really IS? She's out of luck, it's the truth. The truth is an absolute defense.
They also have to prove the statement was made maliciously--my professor used to explain this as a "reckless disregard for the truth of a statement." In other words no fact checking, no hunting down sources, no reasonable basis to say the statement, your intentions were to simply hurt the person. I.e. your intentions were to expose the truth about a public figure exploiting her kids, etc, and you made a few factual errors unintentionally. That's not enough for ACTUAL malice.
I think the strongest piece of evidence in favor of the TRUTH of what Jodi and Kevin said is that no one has sued them. If what they are saying is so false, why haven't they been sued to shut them up? TLC isn't afraid to sue, they sued Jon at the drop of a hat and he WORKED FOR THEM. What's the problem with suing Jodi and Kevin, too? Wait, is it because what they said was TRUE, and not said recklessly?
I also find it comical that we're not to belive Jodi and Kevin because they were allegedly paid. So we're supposed to believe Kate then? Ain't she getting paid too??? Doesn't she have a compelling interest in saying what she needs to say to KEEP getting paid? They're BOTH getting paid. Somebody is lying. So you can't pick the liar by who is getting paid because they BOTH are.
Also begs the question why haven't the big blogs out there been sued? Oh wait maybe we're telling the truth TOO!
Kelly, I have to respectfully disagree, lots of women go out with men that are ten years older, and nobody thinks anything of it.If she were 33 and he was 43 would this even be an issue?
I'm sure Ellen knows all about Jon's life by now, it's no secret;I don't understand why it would be good for her to be innocent of this.
So far she has conducted herself appropriately IMO. I think she deserves some respect and a chance.
Kelly I have to disagree with you. Ellen has been in the picture for a few months now; apparently longer than any of Jon's other "flames". Could it be she gave this one interview to set the record straight in terms of her view of reality shows. Until I see otherwise I am giving her benefit of the doubt. I think she seems real and I like how she interacts with the children. Jon may have found himself a keeper.
It seems that Jon's latest girlfriend Ellen has done two interviews.
One is the pop to pop article noted above and the other one which apparently was done via email can be found at imperfectwomen.com
In the Imperfect Women Interview Ellen sounds pretty stable and grounded to me. When asked a question about the children she says she doesn't feel that it's her place to comment.That shows class,IMO.
K8SUCKS said...
BTW to JonandKatesuck - sorry that we had the same handle, you can have it back and I can change mine !
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Not necessary!! I alternate between Katesucks and JonandKatesuck, depending on the 'situation'. Your K8sucks is distinguishable enough that I don't see the need for you to change it.
I agree, I think Ellen seems good for Jon and the kids. You can tell Katie K feels threatened, she turns up the bikini shots! Oh, and I'll be in line for Al Walentis' book...
I haven't paid much attention to the Jon and Ellen romance, but it would have been better for her not to give an interiew. Most celeb partners seem to keep silent. I don't even understand why this girl would give an interview. Sounds to me like some type of damage control in regards to her age and Jon's life style choices. Glad the kids seem fine around her, but Jon and Ellen are a new couple and Jon's track record with the young ladies is not so great. Jon, although seemingly more normal than Kate, has some issues he needs to work out.
I applaud Al Walentis for coming out with a book. He's not going to make a fortune with it but it's about time that the truth be put out there instead of the PR spin of trash magazines. With a few exceptions, the main stream media has not taken on the controversy of reality tv exploitation of children and my hope is that Al's book solidly tells the story of TLC and the Gosselins.
I still have my doubts .........but will try to give Ellen the benefit of the doubt. Like others stated, she didn't trash K8 or make crazy claims.
I just hope that Ellen doesn't continue to do interviews - paid or not, it compromises her integrity.
$ Makes the World Go Round said...
Judy said...
Is there anyone who is associated with the Gosselins that hasn't cashed in on the Gosselin children?
I don't think so.
Just keep this in mind...every single interview from any outlet, means that a pretty good paycheck is already in their pocket.
Like Vienna got $50,000 for her first interview after the big breakup.
By the way... the only book I'm buying is Al's book.
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Al is cashing in on the Gosselins too, but I guess it's okay as long as he's got some good dirt that you're dying to hear.
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Bet if there had been a pre-order for Al's book, you would have been first in line to order it.
If you're reading this blog or any of the others,you must enjoy "the good dirt" to !
At least I never got pulled into spending a dime on anything Kate was peddling!
Ellen's interview is restrained, but not a smart move. Keep quiet, let'em say what they will. If you think you can control what people think and what trashy media outlets put out there, you're spitting into the wind.
And Jon, if he had any maturity and awareness, he'd let this very nice young lady, who apparently has a bright future, find someone that she can live a normal life with, without media scrutiny and life-altering lack of privacy.
He's selfish. If he cares, he'll let her find a nice young man to start a life and family with (if that's what she wants, and I imagine it is considering here ease and natural demeanor with the G kids). He's not in a place to provide any young woman with a new family, children, emotional and financial stability and an equally supportive partner. I mean, his life is not exactly running smoothly on the rails right now.
It's not the right time in his life to have a serious relationship. It's just not.
I know guys like Jon (and women) who can't be alone and always have to have a GF or BF. He loves to be in love; loves the rush and endorphins. I mean, it was just over a year ago that he swore his love to Hailey, whom he loved more that Kate, according to him. How can he be emotionally available if in just a short 2 years, he's gone through the demise of his marriage and multiple break ups?
He's not is the answer.
Judy said...
Al is cashing in on the Gosselins too, but I guess it's okay as long as he's got some good dirt that you're dying to hear.
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Bet if there had been a pre-order for Al's book, you would have been first in line to order it.
If you're reading this blog or any of the others,you must enjoy "the good dirt" to !
At least I never got pulled into spending a dime on anything Kate was peddling!
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You'd have lost that bet. Oh, and I've never purchased or read one of Kate's books either.
The bottom line is that it's fine by you if someone cashes in on the Gosselin children as long as you get enjoyment out of it.
TLC stinks said...
I applaud Al Walentis for coming out with a book. He's not going to make a fortune with it but it's about time that the truth be put out there instead of the PR spin of trash magazines.
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How do you know that Al's book will contain "the truth?"
I agree with what many have said here...Ellen should have said nothing. She should not do any interviews. It's nice that she gets along with the kids but she should say nothing from now on she should enjoy her time with Jon and the kids and ignore the media.
$ Makes the World Go Round said... The bottom line is that it's fine by you if someone cashes in on the Gosselin children as long as you get enjoyment out of it.
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It’s not about enjoyment, it’s about finally getting some answers to our questions. Nobody here wants to cash in on the G children; if anything Al might be cashing in on some people’s lies, but so what? We would love it if everything that came out of Kate’s (and Jon’s) mouth was the truth. We’d love it if Kate’s books contained facts and if the kids were happy and loved filming and only filmed an hour a day, and if TLC had nothing to hide. But this is not the Twilight Zone. Unfortunately we’ve been lied to and taken for a loooooong ride. Al is a respected, seasoned journalist who would not be printing anything that was not the truth. Having said that, how many facts he actually gathered, in the face of all the confidentiality agreements still remains to be seen. But I for one am looking forward to reading it.
As a fellow Central PAer living only a few miles from Ellen, I'll give the benefit of a doubt to a hometown girl. Since he seems to have to have companionship, at least she's an improvement over the others.
Al is cashing in on the Gosselins too, but I guess it's okay as long as he's got some good dirt that you're dying to hear
There would be NO dirt if Jon and Kate didn't provide it by the truckload. From the very first lie told on the steps of Hershey Med. Center after the tups were born "I was fired from my job because my employer didn't want to pay to insure 10 people" to the latest lie "I just got a good bra" there has been a zillion lies and deceptions in between. "We don't have any helpers," "Jodi, do you want to go in on this organic cow? (I hope you don't find out TLC paid for the whole thing ha ha)" "Kate and I are together," "We don't know how we're going to send 8 kids to college...sniff sniff (but I hope you don't find out we're closing on a $1.3 mil estate) "We wanted to show the kids we're going to be together forever," "Our faith is first and foremost in our lives" (really? It seems to be MIA now) "I only buy milk on sale" (it never goes on sale in PA- that was weird even for Kate) April 2010, still whining about the college "I have no college funds for the kids... sniff sniff(even though I just made $500,000 on DWTS) Need I go on? I don't understand why the sheeple get so angry at the messenger when the lies are exposed, and don't get angry about being lied TO by these wealthy people who pretended to be poor for sympathy and profit for a very long time. And like another poster said, TLC would sue at the drop of a hat if they could. But you can't sue when there is no case.
I would think if Al was so respected as a journalist Jon would have agreed to talk to him. I mean, Jon would talk to paps at his fence. Why would he shut Al out? I just don't see Al getting anything new. What's he gonna say that the tabloids and blogs haven't said a million times? And the fact that Werny Girl is his friends speaks volumns to me! How creepy is it that she drives by the Gosselins' home and takes pics to post on her blog??? Something just doesn't feel right. And a true journalist doesn't give their opinion. A true journalist states the facts only. Al's been all over the internet with his opinions.
Molly
I agree that a true journalist only reports the facts; but does anyone honestly think of Al as a journalist? Isn't he a blogger? And didn't he write for a tabloid mag - US Weekly? And how will we know if it's the truth. If you agree with what he says, it's the truth. If you don't, he's a hack. I don't see him answering the burning questions. lol
Al's not a journalist. He's a blogger and a tabloid reporter. Only a handful of people would know the truth. Why would they talk to Al?
Molly,
Maybe Jon declined to speak with Al for the book because his 'nads were still under contract with TLC.
I guess I don't see TLC caring much about Al's book. What's he going to say that hasn't already been said? And if no key players talked to him how's he going to know what the truth is? Was he there? Did he work for the Gosselins way back when? What's his connection? If it's just from what he's gathered online, I could write a book!
And if Jon really wanted his side heard he' talk to Jodi and Kevin. They have no problem blabbing to whoever will listen.
Molly
Jon could do something if he wanted to.
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/18322
On your marks, get set...GO!!!!
Molly, if and when Jon wants his side heard he will write his own book and it will be a blockbuster. I'm sure he's not allowed to talk right now.
I hate to say it but is Al's book self published? The cover looks amateur.
I'm reading the sample pages right now. Keep in mind, everyone, that the Kate fans and TLC interns are now on full on "take Al down" mode to preserve their brand.
So far, the prelude to the book is talking about the ridiculousness of the media picking up on tidbits of gossip and running with it. Al covered the tups in the beginning when he worked for a local paper. He is pretty close to the situation. No he's not Jon or Kate but I wouldn't trust a word out of their mouths because they are bound by TLC and both have proven to be liars through and through. I don't think Al is trying to cash in on the G's fame. I think he's trying to point out the ridiculousness of this whole reality show mess. If not Al, then who could do it that wouldn't be accused of trying to make money off the G's? The truth needs to come out because up until now, we have TLC spoon feeding the tabloids.
I read the sample and it doesn't impress me much. Basically stuff we all know from the internet.
"Did he work for the Gosselins way back when? What's his connection?"
It's not internet fodder. He was a writer for the Reading newspaper for centuries (seems like it anyway), and as a journalist where they live, covered every aspect in the days and lives of the family. Read the sample intro.
Tit for tat. When Kate's book came out a bunch of haters went on Amazon and had horrible reviews for her. Then posted on blogs that they didn't READ the book just gave bad reviews. So expect no less from the Kate fans.
Although Al's book seems very Mickey Mouse. It seems more of a parody of a book, than a real book.
arabella, Al worked as a writer for the Reading Eagle for 30 years. That is not "just a blogger."
Wouldn't you think, though, that a seasoned journalist would check the spelling of the kids' names? Aaden JONATHON?
Proofread! said...
Wouldn't you think, though, that a seasoned journalist would check the spelling of the kids' names? Aaden JONATHON?
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Proof, how does he spell it?
mommyinca said...
I'm reading the sample pages right now. Keep in mind, everyone, that the Kate fans and TLC interns are now on full on "take Al down" mode to preserve their brand.
I see it too. The same visceral hate that was unleashed on Jodi and Julie for speaking the truth will now be directed at Al. Even if Al does spend a good portion of the book re-covering ancient history, it's still a good thing. To have the info gathered, fact checked and printed in book form makes it very hard for the fans to keep dismissing it as internet or tabloid fodder. If neither TLC nor Jon & Kate challenge the book, then everything in it is fact and there's nothing to challenge. It's a very simple concept, not sure why some folks can't or won't get it.
I am not holding my breath on Al's "book". I think Werny Gal posting all those pics and descriptions of the house was very wrong.
Kelly, it's lens, not lense. :)
Hey Anon..I did read some of Kates book and it darn well was boring and held no interest..sorry but her life stinks and stinks more when its on paper....never will grt those darn 30 minutes back
Perhaps Al could donate a portion of the proceeds from the book to a worthy cause. The NIC unit at Hersey Medical Center were the tups were born, or Minor Consideration for the exploitation of children would be some idea's.This way he won't be accused as making money of the Gosselin train wreak.
Administrator said...
I hate to say it but is Al's book self published? The cover looks amateur.
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Yes, it's self-published. And lo and behold, look who is providing the "commentary." None other than the nosy neighbor who claimed she had nothing to do with the book.
It looks like it was put together by a middle school child as a school project. And the guy is bragging about his stint as a tabloid reporter.
In glancing at the free sample, I certainly understand why his career was spent at a small town newspaper. The New York Times sure as heck wasn't going to come calling.
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mommyinca said...
I'm reading the sample pages right now. Keep in mind, everyone, that the Kate fans and TLC interns are now on full on "take Al down" mode to preserve their brand.
I see it too. The same visceral hate that was unleashed on Jodi and Julie for speaking the truth will now be directed at Al. Even if Al does spend a good portion of the book re-covering ancient history, it's still a good thing. To have the info gathered, fact checked and printed in book form makes it very hard for the fans to keep dismissing it as internet or tabloid fodder. If neither TLC nor Jon & Kate challenge the book, then everything in it is fact and there's nothing to challenge. It's a very simple concept, not sure why some folks can't or won't get it.
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Surely you jest. Anybody can self-publish these days and that's what he did. I have no idea if the book is truth, unfounded rumor or a combination of the two, nor do I plan to buy it to find out, but for you to claim that it has legitimacy simply because it appears in book form is ridiculous.
**. Even if Al does spend a good portion of the book re-covering ancient history, it's still a good thing. To have the info gathered, fact checked and printed in book form makes it very hard for the fans to keep dismissing it as internet or tabloid fodder. ***
I work in publishing and although I hate to say it, a lot of books are never fact checked by an unbiased third party. At all.
I was responsible for putting together one magazine's book of the year awards and one reviewer had chosen a self-published book. I questioned whether this was appropriate as the book would never be fact checked in that case, and the EIC said there is NO guarantee that ANY book--including reference volumes of any and every kind-- is ever fact checked by a pub as it's too costly.
Anyone remember that Oprah book fiasco Million Little Pieces?
heather
I too am VERY skeptical of Al's book believe me, but I don't think it's very fair to insult him for working at a "small" paper and not the NY Times. So you want him to uproot himself and move to NY just to work at a huge paper? This is where he lives.
The Reading-Eagle is actually one of the better small-town newspapers. They offer an internship through the Dow Jones newspaper fund that is highly competitive, sought after by 100s of applicants each summer. Not every paper has a Down Jones intern. It's been around more than a hundred years, several Pulitzer Prize winning writers have worked for them. John Updike worked for them.
It has broken many big stories. They were responsible for sending the Berks County coroner for JAIL after their journalism uncovered a $200,000 job-selling scheme he led. Imagine that, a journalist trying to uncover someone stealing money from the good people of PA (cough cough in home baby nurse paid by PA ring a bell??)
This is where the real journalists are in the trenches across America, not editing copy in a stuffy New York Times office on the 11th floor. And by the way The NY Times is not perfect either. I find it very biased to the far far left.
I think Al is highly suspicious but insulting him for working for the Reading Eagle is a little far fetched.
Carolina Gal:
He spells it JonathON. It's Jonathan.
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/18322
This is where I got to read a few pages of Al's book or at least the title matches
Admin... do you mind me asking why you think the book & Al are suspicious?
I read the sample and am really undecided what to make of it?
Anonymous said...
I guess I don't see TLC caring much about Al's book. What's he going to say that hasn't already been said? And if no key players talked to him how's he going to know what the truth is? Was he there? Did he work for the Gosselins way back when? What's his connection? If it's just from what he's gathered online, I could write a book!
And if Jon really wanted his side heard he' talk to Jodi and Kevin. They have no problem blabbing to whoever will listen.
Molly
Molly,
Can you tell us the last time you heard Jodie or Kevin speak since the hearings? Haven't seen them in any tabloids lately so I think your statement is based on the misinformation. Unless you have articles recently to say otherwise....
If this book is a bunch of lies, TCL will be all over Al. If they're not, well, that pretty much speaks for itself.
Woops, I meant to say TLC. :)
If this book is a bunch of lies, TLC will be all over Al. If they're not, well, that pretty much speaks for itself.
Just finished reading the sample pages of Al's book. It is a good read. I'll buy it. I didn't know some of the information he shared on the sample pages.
Even if A's book is just bringing up the past of "The Gosselins Lifes Of Lies", I'm glad to see it all together in writing.
Maybe,just maybe,some of the media,like,The Insider,ET,Extra and most of all the losers at The View,(Elizabeth, Sherri, Barbara, Joy and Bill, will read it and begin to see the light.
Kate Gosselin is a loser, user, no talented, piece of trash and nobody wants to see her on these shows.
When her mouth moves, she's lying !
By the way...Watch Kate Become The New Man Of The House In The Trailer of "Kate Plus Eight"
You're sure to just LOVE it !
http://www.hollywoodlife.com/
I am not holding my breath on Al's "book".
What does that mean? You don't think he wrote it? You don't believe it exists?
I also just read the sample. Hmmmm. Comes off like a tabloid. Not a journalist. His opinion is all over this. A journalist is not supposed to be biased. A journalist is supposed to present the facts. This is a tablois read. His "sources" are people who do not personally know either Gosselin. If you hate the Gosselins you will find truth in this book. If you like them, this will come off as bitter and catty.
Molly
The book is rumor and hearsay. Not the expose' it was touted to be. Nothing new in there. The part about Dana Hoffman the blogger makes her come across as bitter, angry about the freebies. TLC has nothing to fear. A Pulitzer it is not. I was hoping for better.
Molly, this is a serious question: What do you like about them?
A tiny snippet of the garbage in Al's "book:"
"But Jon himself, whether you can believe him or not, and usually you cannot, told confidants the abnormal litter was part of Kate’s grand plan. Jon said he never wanted to have the sextuplets in the first place, not six."
Let's see...in two sentences he's managed to refer to a group of children as an "abnormal litter" and remind them that their father didn't want them. That is, of course, if you can believe Jon, because Al states up front that he's known as a big fat liar. Of course, that doesn't stop ol' Al from weaving the claims of Jon into his tabloid tale.
Utter and complete garbage from an unemployed guy desperate to make a buck.
I just read the sample from the book. I didn't read anything new.
Of course he's trying to cash in on the Gosselins. He didn't write this book to call attention to child exploitation. He called the children an unwanted litter. He's unemployed and looking to make a buck.
Wow, the trolls are rabid today. LOL
Why is it wrong for Al to write about a topic he's researched for years?
Why is it wrong for an educated, seasoned journalist to write a book and possibly make a profit?
Why is it okay to show kids pooping and a mom abusing her kids, but not okay for Al to write about it?
He's unemployed and looking to make a buck.
Gee, too bad for you fans that Al doesn't have kids to exploit. He's a writer and he wrote. You "fans" are so afraid of your queen falling from her plastic throne. Discredit him all you want, the information will still be out there and there is nothing anybody can do about it.
Walentis Fan said...
He's unemployed and looking to make a buck.
Gee, too bad for you fans that Al doesn't have kids to exploit. He's a writer and he wrote. You "fans" are so afraid of your queen falling from her plastic throne. Discredit him all you want, the information will still be out there and there is nothing anybody can do about it.
What "information" is that? The man starts off with a caveat about Jon Gosselin being a renowned liar and proceeds to use Jon's version of events to help tell the story. He knows that he has published pure crap and was forced to start off with that caveat to avoid a lawsuit. He might as well have written "Hey, I'm not claiming the story I'm telling is actually, you know, true..."
If it's all lies, speculation and rumors then you fans have nothing to worry about, do you? The more you try to discredit him or insult him, the more copies he will sell.
I had high hopes for it but the sample is just a rehash of stuff we already knew about, with profanity thrown in.
I am reading the e-book and am at page 58. The only reason that I can follow the time-line is because I have been following the blogs since Spring of 2008. In addition to the distracting typos, I believe that anyone who doesn't already know the timeline would quit reading after about twenty pages. It would be too confusing.
More of The Same said...
I just read the sample from the book. I didn't read anything new.
Of course he's trying to cash in on the Gosselins. He didn't write this book to call attention to child exploitation. He called the children an unwanted litter. He's unemployed and looking to make a buck.
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Did Al Walentis claim, that the intent of his book was to call attention to child exploitation?
The children were born in a group of SIX ... sorry, that isn't normal. It is ABNORMAL.
And I am quite certain that the book was written with the hopes of turning a profit. Not many authors write books they hope will tank.
This book will be received just like anything else G-related. Those that are G-fans will thump their chests and proclaim it LIES all LIES. Or tabloid trash. Or pick your unflattering adjective.
Those that are so-called haters will herald it as a beacon of truth. There will not be a "happy medium" to be had in this dispute, EVER. Unless, that is, if Kate herself would come out and say "this is what happened" and have it be a reasonably believable, realistic version.
Regardless, I'm buying the book. Don't care if it was "self published" and I don't care if he's making money (hope he is, actually).
The G-kids will be either horribly screwed up, or gloriously successful, regardless of my actions. That's all in the hands of mommy and daddy, not me.
From an poster elsewhere in the G-Blogosphere:
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So supporting a fired Us weekly reporter's rehashed garbage book is going towards the anti Kate movement?
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I don't know whether or not Al Walentis was "fired" by the US Weekly publication. If he was NOT fired (let go for cause) would such a statement, in this context, be considered libel? Just curious, on the legalities and your opinion.
Come on people ... I don't think Al intended this book to be "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich". It is what it is ... a summation of a lot of the information available on the Jon and Kate fiasco, verified as much as possible, with a few previously unknown tidbits thrown in, to boot. What it will do, though, is bring together in one book a lot of the information that otherwise might take hours of scouring the Net to find ... a bonus for some of those talking heads who attempt to do stories on Jon and Kate when it's clear they haven't a clue as to the history of the trainwreck.
And, it should be remembered that the Jon and Kate saga is still a story in the making. As such, the plot will evolve as more information from the past becomes available and the future develops. Some of the contents of the book will be re-written and many chapters will be added ... but, at least, it's a start.
Who in their right mind would care enough about Jon Gosselin to interview some chick is is currently dating? Who is he, George Clooney? Who f'ing cares??????????????? Oh, I forgot, you do.
Good God! This woman is a bonified slut!
http://www.infdaily.com/
Steve and Jamie are with her.
One picture is very funny with Jamie.
http://www.infdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Kate-Gosselin-and-Her-8-Wait-For-A-Train-in-Lancaster.jpg
Gads. D e s p e r a t e.
Yep. They are filming for an episode. Boom mikes, matchy matchy. Don't these kids get a break?
Oh, yeah, maybe when Mommy leaves for her next assignment.
Judy said...
Good God! This woman is a bonified slut!
http://www.infdaily.com/
I have to say this - OMG she looks like a hooker.
Kate is doing what she does best !
Chewing Jon's ass out.
http://celebrity-gossip.net/kate-gosselin/jon-and-kate-gosselin-still-fighting-385452
Hey, trolls. Do you dress like Kate? OMG, she looks like she does porn. She dresses like this for a train ride??? Now I completely understand why the paps are still interested. Something is definitely not right with her.
And about Al's book---now it is all in one compact book----all the lies, scheming, etc. He has done what should have done a year ago.
Bought Al's book.
View it as a vote against TLC/Gosselins.
I also would love to see sales surpass the 10K sold of Kate's latest disaster.
After looking at those pics of Kate ripping Jon a new one, I have to say that Jon is one heck of a man. Most men would have taken her down a few notches.
He has to put up with this bit*h still treating him like crap and he's not even married to her.
It is a joke that the father of those kids has to pick them up on the road , just like the workers putting in the new trees.
Just read the summary. What was said in 2005 in those blog posts is still being said today, 5 years later! The only thing that's changed is Kate's perpetual tan and the increasing skimpiness of her attire.
And what's the purpose of all this continual talk, again??
my9cats said...
Bought Al's book.
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Where ? I have been to Amazon and other sites and can't find anything about it.
Guess the kids are heading to the Statue of Liberty in the 100 degree weather.
'Mom' dressed like a streetwalker. Steve and Jamie accompanied:
http://www.infdaily.com/2010/07/kate-gosselin-and-her-8-wait-for-a-train-in-lancaster.html
Kate Gosselin got all dolled up to take her eight kids to New York City today. Eight kids. During a record heatwave. While most parents would postpone the trip, obviously Kate wouldn’t: TLC’s filming them for her show! 101 degrees be damned! Remember about this time last year when Kate refused to let a thirsty Mady have any water? We can’t help but worry if that attitude prevails.
Kate and the kids left the Lancaster, Pennsylvania train station today before their little adventure. We’ll be bringing you more pictures of their trip shortly!
Kate deliberately yells at Jon in front of the paps I guess trying to provoke a fight and then shows up dressed up like a hooker, dragging her kids out in 100 degree heat, to film at a train station. What am I missing here from the Kate supporters?
saline or silicone said... @7:48AM
Well said! Thank you for your point of view!
my9cats -
When you put it like that, it makes me want to buy one, just to increase the sales over K8's latest 'tell all' on her own kids. Plus, if it will tick TLC/Kate off, I'm all for it.
TLC and Kate 'hooking up' really was "the perfect storm"...what were the odds?
Nothing wrong with buying Al's book. I intend to do so as well, once it comes out in something other than an Ebook.
Saw Kate taking another wack at Jon's balls too. She looked pissed but then again, she always looks pissed unless she's on the View and then we see the "Other side of Kate".
Jon's pictures look like his hair plugs are gone. Perhaps the drought in the Northeast is taking a toll on his hair too.
What ARE we missing?
How is forcing filming in 101 degrees being a wonderful mother? How is making dad pick the kids up at the road taking the high road? Why does she get a free-pass dressing like a hooker but if it was someone Jon was dating, the fans would go nuts?
Judy said...
smashwords.com
Judy said...
my9cats said...
Bought Al's book.
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Where ? I have been to Amazon and other sites and can't find anything about it.
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You can purchase it at the link that's been given here several times.. http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/18322
Al's book, let's see, shall I give my money to one more exploiter of the neverending Gosselin saga? It says Kate's a bi*ch, Jon's a wimp, they are both liars and grifters. Nah, I'll pass.
Kelly said...
Nothing wrong with buying Al's book. I intend to do so as well, once it comes out in something other than an Ebook.
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Kelly, you can buy it at the smashbooks site, they have hard copies in addition to the ebooks.
Administrator said...
"...At least we know they won't be filmed when they are with her..."
Doesn't the photo on this posting show that she and the children are being filmed together?
No, it's a photograph, not TLC filming.
BIG difference.
Was on the smashbooks site but don't like putting my credit card on a website I've never heard about until today. Had my American Express card run up to nearly two thousand dollars on reputable website when I purchased christmas gifts. No more for me. If it shows up on a book rack, I'll buy it but no more internet purchases for this guy.
"The only reason that I can follow the time-line is because I have been following the blogs since Spring of 2008. In addition to the distracting typos,"
Pretty bad, huh...the typos, grammar and misspelled words? Granted, not all reporters/newspaper writers have the best language skills (especially sports writers!), and that's why there are PROOFREADERS!
It's a shame that this book wasn't edited for grammar and spelling mistakes. The errors are so distracting.
The only women in Lancaster who walk around looking like that can be found on Water Street, and it was even too hot today for them to ply their trade.
I can't, for the life of me, understand WHY she dresses like that.
"Was on the smashbooks site but don't like putting my credit card on a website I've never heard about until today."
Ditto, Kelly. I was on the site, had my card ready to be charged, but decided against it.
Is the book going to be available on Amazon, or Barnes and Noble? Anyone know?
Proofread,
I caught some comments about the spelling and typo's earlier before I logged onto the site to read the 30 pages that were available. What I learned from those pages was that Al Walentis was merely printing copy of emails to editors or blog sites in their entirety and didn't change a typo or a word for the sake of clarity.
I didn't see anything in my read where his printed word was spelled wrong.
Proofread,
I don't think the typo's in the book are part of Al Walentis' writing style. From what I read of the 30 available pages were captions of emails and letters to the editor, in their entire format, typo's and all.
The rest of what I read from Al's writings was in context and novel form. Nothing more, nothing less. Was interesting, something I'd buy and read and put on the bookshelf or share when I'm done.
I think we should all give the guy a break and maybe a few kudos for taking the time to pound out this tome and share it with the world. After all, nothing but spin has been printed about this couple and they keep getting a pass. If someone, other than bloggers put the pen to paper, take it to the press and put it out there for the world to see, in hardback or paperback, the world will take notice.
Being in US magazine, People, NE, Star and all the other tabloids, that stuff gets a look and then a pass. Maybe this will be the fire in the belly of the beast to expose the frauds these two people really are.
I just purchased it through Paypal. I have had an account with them for 9 years, with no problems. Ebay owns them, and millions of users use Paypal for purchases. Smashbooks never sees my credit card info. I also use Paypal to use for online since many merchants are now accepting them. You don't know me, so this is probably in vain, but many others I am sure have used Paypal.
Hi Lolly,
Thanks for that information. I wasn't aware you could do that with paypal. Good information.
PA Mom ALSO said...
"Was on the smashbooks site but don't like putting my credit card on a website I've never heard about until today."
Ditto, Kelly. I was on the site, had my card ready to be charged, but decided against it.
Is the book going to be available on Amazon, or Barnes and Noble? Anyone know?
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I was there earlier and didn't want to use my card on a site I had never heard of. I agree with the others. I will order the book if it is available from a site I trust.
No problem, Kelly. I purchase online a lot, I am handicapped so it is easier for me. PLUS you can get things so much cheaper online. Sorry I know this off topic, just trying to pass on info for those who are concerned about online purchases.
Admin, regarding Jon's GF, I do think she seems like a nice enough girl. But with these interviews showing up, suddenly, I am skeptical of her now. WHo knows, maybe she is getting the Ok from Jon and she is getting PAID. We know how Jon was/is about money.
If you have been following the Greedy Gosselins from the beginning, there is nothing new here, at least in the first 35 pages I skimmed.
The content is hard to process because the writing style and format are really difficult to follow : choppy and sloppy .
Not impressed.
Lolly,
I agree. If the girlfriend was sincere, she wouldn't come out and give press to anything she does with Jon or his children. Her best words and sincere words would be "No Comment".
I suspect Jon has put her up to this to ingratiate himself in the public forum again. No words from her would have spoken volumes. She owes the world nothing and she owes the paps more than nothing. Up until this point, no one really knew anything about her and Jon is really not in the public eye.
Her comments put him back on the tabloids, ROL and all the other sites and it keeps him relevant. Jon and Kate will stop at nothing to stay relevant and they will use anyone and everyone to further their goal.
I wasn't impressed with his girlfriends comments and still stand by my earlier assertion. It's a pap shoot, a photo op and a chance for Jon's dwindling star to stay lit.
" don't think the typo's in the book are part of Al Walentis' writing style. From what I read of the 30 available pages were captions of emails and letters to the editor, in their entire format, typo's and all."
Kelly...
I did take that into consideration. He did copy, word for word and typo for typo, from blogs, etc. That's perfectly acceptable. One doesn't change direct quotes. However, the many mistakes I found were in HIS writings. At least the guy could have checked on the spelling of Jonathan!
However, this wouldn't be enough to stop me from buying the book. It's just a quirk of mine...I notice those errors and it's distracting, especially since someone with proofreading skills could have edited it.
"If you have been following the Greedy Gosselins from the beginning, there is nothing new here, at least in the first 35 pages I skimmed."
Well, let's see. Did you know that TLC gave Kate her new car as an anniversary gift? There was so much discussion about how she came up with the cash for an expensive SUV, and now we know!
I just finished Al's book and I have to say it's possibly worth $9.99. No more. I was really offended by some of the language he used to describe women: babes, cuties, chicks, bimbos, beaver, Philly floozies, quick piece of tail; I found that really disappointing as I thought his style would be at least a cut above cheap detective novels from the 1960's.
He also implied that Kevin and Jodi were lying about whether the potty training had in fact taken place at their house.We all saw the episodes at the Gosselin house including the infamous outdoor driveway potty scene. How did Al miss that?
The book appears to be a vilification of Jon with some tidbits thrown in about Kate to maintain a pretense of fairness.I wasn't impressed.
Cars:
No I didn't know this little tidbit beforehand, but it really doesn't matter,it's just semantics:
TLC purchased the car for K8 or K8 purchased car for K8. Either way, that new car was purchased with money earned from the children working.
Thanks IDModo, I trust your judgement. Glad I didn't buy it. Maybe Z will come out with something better? I was hoping for a good summer read.
"No I didn't know this little tidbit beforehand, but it really doesn't matter,it's just semantics:"
Semantics has nothing to do with your statement and my question. You stated that there was nothing you didn't know, and I asked if you knew that the car was a gift from TLC. You said that you didn't know that, so there WAS something in the read that you didn't know.
Regardless of whose money eventually ended up buying it, it was another freebie. Some wondered how she could afford such an expensive car because she has been crying poverty. She didn't dip deep inside her magical purse for the funds. TLC was the benefactor. Do they also pay for the petrol?
"No I didn't know this little tidbit beforehand, but it really doesn't matter,it's just semantics:"
Semantics has nothing to do with your statement and my question. You stated that there was nothing you didn't know, and I asked if you knew that the car was a gift from TLC. You said that you didn't know that, so there WAS something in the read that you didn't know.
Regardless of whose money eventually ended up buying it, it was another freebie. Some wondered how she could afford such an expensive car because she has been crying poverty. She didn't dip deep inside her magical purse for the funds. TLC was the benefactor. Do they also pay for the petrol?
" don't think the typo's in the book are part of Al Walentis' writing style. From what I read of the 30 available pages were captions of emails and letters to the editor, in their entire format, typo's and all."
Kelly...
I did take that into consideration. He did copy, word for word and typo for typo, from blogs, etc. That's perfectly acceptable. One doesn't change direct quotes. However, the many mistakes I found were in HIS writings. At least the guy could have checked on the spelling of Jonathan!
However, this wouldn't be enough to stop me from buying the book. It's just a quirk of mine...I notice those errors and it's distracting, especially since someone with proofreading skills could have edited it.
I had high hopes for it but the sample is just a rehash of stuff we already knew about, with profanity thrown in.
Admin, regarding Jon's GF, I do think she seems like a nice enough girl. But with these interviews showing up, suddenly, I am skeptical of her now. WHo knows, maybe she is getting the Ok from Jon and she is getting PAID. We know how Jon was/is about money.
I just read the sample from the book. I didn't read anything new.
Of course he's trying to cash in on the Gosselins. He didn't write this book to call attention to child exploitation. He called the children an unwanted litter. He's unemployed and looking to make a buck.
Molly, this is a serious question: What do you like about them?
Even if A's book is just bringing up the past of "The Gosselins Lifes Of Lies", I'm glad to see it all together in writing.
Maybe,just maybe,some of the media,like,The Insider,ET,Extra and most of all the losers at The View,(Elizabeth, Sherri, Barbara, Joy and Bill, will read it and begin to see the light.
Kate Gosselin is a loser, user, no talented, piece of trash and nobody wants to see her on these shows.
When her mouth moves, she's lying !
By the way...Watch Kate Become The New Man Of The House In The Trailer of "Kate Plus Eight"
You're sure to just LOVE it !
http://www.hollywoodlife.com/
If this book is a bunch of lies, TCL will be all over Al. If they're not, well, that pretty much speaks for itself.
Administrator said...
I hate to say it but is Al's book self published? The cover looks amateur.
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Yes, it's self-published. And lo and behold, look who is providing the "commentary." None other than the nosy neighbor who claimed she had nothing to do with the book.
It looks like it was put together by a middle school child as a school project. And the guy is bragging about his stint as a tabloid reporter.
In glancing at the free sample, I certainly understand why his career was spent at a small town newspaper. The New York Times sure as heck wasn't going to come calling.
Hey Anon..I did read some of Kates book and it darn well was boring and held no interest..sorry but her life stinks and stinks more when its on paper....never will grt those darn 30 minutes back
mommyinca said...
I'm reading the sample pages right now. Keep in mind, everyone, that the Kate fans and TLC interns are now on full on "take Al down" mode to preserve their brand.
I see it too. The same visceral hate that was unleashed on Jodi and Julie for speaking the truth will now be directed at Al. Even if Al does spend a good portion of the book re-covering ancient history, it's still a good thing. To have the info gathered, fact checked and printed in book form makes it very hard for the fans to keep dismissing it as internet or tabloid fodder. If neither TLC nor Jon & Kate challenge the book, then everything in it is fact and there's nothing to challenge. It's a very simple concept, not sure why some folks can't or won't get it.
Wouldn't you think, though, that a seasoned journalist would check the spelling of the kids' names? Aaden JONATHON?
I agree with what many have said here...Ellen should have said nothing. She should not do any interviews. It's nice that she gets along with the kids but she should say nothing from now on she should enjoy her time with Jon and the kids and ignore the media.
I haven't paid much attention to the Jon and Ellen romance, but it would have been better for her not to give an interiew. Most celeb partners seem to keep silent. I don't even understand why this girl would give an interview. Sounds to me like some type of damage control in regards to her age and Jon's life style choices. Glad the kids seem fine around her, but Jon and Ellen are a new couple and Jon's track record with the young ladies is not so great. Jon, although seemingly more normal than Kate, has some issues he needs to work out.
I applaud Al Walentis for coming out with a book. He's not going to make a fortune with it but it's about time that the truth be put out there instead of the PR spin of trash magazines. With a few exceptions, the main stream media has not taken on the controversy of reality tv exploitation of children and my hope is that Al's book solidly tells the story of TLC and the Gosselins.
If Ellen likes to avoid drama, why on Earth would she get together with the likes of Jon : divorced father of 8, highly publicized and nationally televised demise of marriage, ex-wife is a trampy, greedy, famewhore. Yeah, what a CATCH.
I'm with you all, I don't buy it.
BTW to JonandKatesuck - sorry that we had the same handle, you can have it back and I can change mine !
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