Jon had the kids this weekend after they've spent the better part of their summer on the road filming with Kate in Florida, then New York, then Alaska, then Los Angeles. He took them to an arcade The Works in Wyomissing.
I'm no fan of Jon's but to be fair this pic is indisputable evidence that the kiddos are way happier when they're with dad. Or could be they are just happy to be away from Kate the Killjoy? Or a combination of both.
wow, what a difference when the kids are with Jon. I wish he was man enough to stop the filming though. These kids should be able to be just kids, and not on a work break. I bet they beg their dad for more time with him. I hope they get it.
The Works is a GREAT place for kiddos! We go there for Birthday parties. Kudos to Jon for bringing NORMAL (or a semblance of it) to their lives. Not so thrilled with the PAP pictures tho.
Jon is no prize and he is responsible for standing back and allowing his children to continue to be filmed, but show me one photo from the entire dozens of photos we have of the children's trips to New York, Alaska and L.A. that looks even close to this.
The old this is just a moment of time just doesn't ring true when there isn't a single photo of happy kids the entire trips. And doesn't ring true when photo after photo of the kids with Jon shows them happy.
The only photo where the kids looked remotely happy was when they finally got back to Alaska and were walking OUTSIDE the airport. Yeah prob cause they were happy to be home and begin their visit with their dad without cameras.
All four of the children's faces we can see have very bright and happy expressions....so are we to believe that at just this right second in time all four of them smiled at the same time? But the rest of the time they were sad and gloomy like how they always look when they're dragged along on filming trips?
Read the little article. Then I read the comments, WOW! The sheeple are plain ignorant. I copied and pasted below:
Peggyp August 2, 2010, 7:35 pm (a) that’s not true, and (b) they’re only smiling in the photos where they’re going into the building, so it’s likely that they are smiling about what they are going to be doing as opposed to who is taking them there.
Miss Bu August 2, 2010, 7:49 pm The kids are laughing with each other not there father and OH look he has that cellphone in his hand.
Really? August 2, 2010, 8:36 pm Really? They look “happy” with Jon? Why lie? They’re laughing with each other, not because of Jon, and there are plenty of pics here where they look absolutely miserable. Don’t pretend they are happy to be with daddy when there are many pictures of them looking plenty unhappy. What purpose do the lies serve?
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Blind fools! Notice how none of the commentors said ANYTHING about Kate thier leader.
They left with prizes. I hope they keep them at Jon's place because Kate will throw then out.
Personally, I HATE the prizes at these places. CHEAP crap that you pay tons for in the end.
However, they WON it and weren't just handed the prizes, so, I bet they are special. Do they ever get to pick out their toys or does their playing depend on who's sponsoring them that month or wants a toy in the tabloids?
That is one heck of a cute picture. Even though Jon is doing nothing but trying to open the door, the kids look just giddy and excited (going swimming maybe?) and not a matchy-matchy outfit in sight. That's what summer memories are made of - mine are of Garanimals clothes stained by blue (bubblegum) snow cones with trips to the local pool thrown in. Ah, youth!
The children do look happy. Their movement is not scripted and they are not surrounded by TV cameras and technicians. Yes the paps managed to get pictures but hopefully this was at a distance. They seem completely at ease enjoying a day out with their father.
And he would be: they seem to feel comfortable around him, like they can relax and breathe easy.
They know they can go to him if they feel sick or are in pain.
They know he won't lose his shit all over the place if they so much as get a drop of water or a speck of dirt on themselves.
And the trip to that arcade was obviously just for THEM and not for TLC. When they are allowed to do "fun" things with their mom, it's only to work. With dad, it's just to do fun things.
I guarantee you they feel very differently inside about their dad than they do their mom. I wish he'd stand up to TLC and stop the filming for the sake of his kids, but at least he's a loving parent, unlike their mom.
Somebody, probably Jon, has been brushing the little girls' hair; it looks clean and shiny, not messy and all over their faces, or done up in tortured pony tails.Another contrast..
@ Troy Chula Vista: Oy, these are the same ignoramuses who recently excused more of Kate’s indefensible rudeness as completely acceptable. According to posts on BM’s blog, a recent Kate+8 episode shows Kate being rude to a service person (BIG surprise there) because he supposedly put his tool box on her kitchen countertop. The Sheeple justified Kate’s bad behavior due to her being a “germaphobe:” of course Kate wouldn’t want the yucky toolbox on her countertops – because Kate is SO ultra-worried about germs. I had to laugh out loud as post after post they scaffolded each other’s rationalizations for her rudeness. All the while they seemed to conveniently forget that concurrently to the airing of that episode, Kate was caught clomping around New York City BAREFOOT. Germaphobe, my ass. The Sheeple are myopic, selectively retentive, naive, and ignorant.
You can be a germaphobe and still not be rude to the hired help.
Simply saying as he comes in oh do you mind if we putt your toolbox down over here in the laundry room (or wherever that is not going to freak her out about germs), I'm a silly germaphone and I have little quirks like that.
He probably would have laughed it off and it would have been fine.
There are ways to accomplish what Kate wants without being a total bitch about everything.
in fact, today I was at the doctors office and as I put my purse up on the counter to pay my bill, I specifically told the administrative help there that they might want to clean the counter after. I put my purse down everywhere, including the floor in a public restroom (unles it's visibly dirty)
I'm not a germophobe, but it was just something that occurred to me that I thought they might care to know.
Life's simple pleasures is something that can't be beat. You don't see the kids beaming like this while trapsing all over the place supposedly being exposed to fun, educational and wonderful adventures (my ass).
>Jon is no prize and he is responsible for standing back and allowing his children to continue to be filmed
what is the alternative? find a job where you can make more than $21000 per month for child support, or go to jail (where his kids won't be able to spend time with him at all?) Is that really the amount he is supposed to pay? I'm sort of out of the loop.
I hate that TLC has him over a barrel But even with what my brother used to make as a network admin (and it was a lot, at least to me) there was no way he could pull $21000 a month out of it - at least not after taxes - and still have a roof and food for himself.
Kates a germaphobic my ass, shes a pig with lipstick on. The only one who cleaned the house was either Jon or the cleaning crew. TLC wanted to paste her as a germaphobic and she went along with it. She walked along the NY City streets barefoot and for that she is a pig wearing lipstick.
You can be a germaphobe and still not be rude to the hired help. Exactly!!
Kate isn't a Germaphobe. If she was,she wouldn't hold the escalator handrails in the airport. She also wouldn't have her cellphone permanently in her hand as she is constantly cross contaminating with door handles and money.
Jon taking his kids out his his job now . I bet my last dollar he gets a nice cut for all the pics. Jon, you nor Kate deserve these kids. They are your income!
Oh - This is great link. Boy do they ever have her number! TeeHeeHee!
FROM INF: We’ve been pretty worried about Kate Gosselin after the reality TV star took her brood of eight on vacation to Alaska. What was going to happen to her tan? Would she still be able to make time to get a manicure two to three times a week? Would the world implode if she didn’t? Luckily, we caught Kate getting back to business over the weekend as she and the kids resumed their regular routine in Reading, PA.....(blah blah blah stuff about Jon cooking dinner).....Meanwhile, Kate spent more than three hours at the spa and tanning salon. Luckily, she’s back to a healthy shade of almost-orange. Breathe easy.
Hmmmm.... What's missing in this picture? Collin, Joel and Alexis are not covering their faces. Aaden and Alexis' brows are worry free and not knotted into anxious frowns. Jon is attending to them and not the photographer.
I wonder if the kids look so miserable with Kate because they're embarrassed? To be such a frickin spectacle with the unnecessary bodyguards, the mulptiple nannies, the cameras in tow, and of course, to be accompanied by their sluttily dressed, overly made up mother? How embarrassing must it be to have such a joke of a mom? Someone so desperate for attention who laughably is trying to be hot stuff? Someone hated by much of America? Someone who is criticized for being a bitch and a horrible parent? Just a thought
I want to add the kids look so nice and relaxed now. What a change from what we see with Kate. I love that they aren't matching. It draws less attention that they are multiples, and they'll look more like everyday kids to others in the arcade.
I don't understand the criticism of Jon with the cell. I don't have a kid, (I'm 22), but when I do I'd like to think I could still hold a conversation on the phone or send a text without being labeled as "ignoring my kids."
Lauren said...I wonder if they know they have to work for mommies spa treatments so that's why they don't smile when they are with her.
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They've been trained to think cameras and filming is a normal way of life but as they get older they'll get wise to what's going on, the same way Cara and Mady have figured it out.
I remember Leah, a four-year-old at the time, discussing money matters with her mom when they bought the new house. It seemed strange for such a little thing to be concerned about how a house was going to get paid for. Kate didn't bother to tell her she was part of a group of eight that was footing the bill for mommy and daddy.
For now when they're with Jon, they're kicking back and enjoying their days off from work, even if they don't know that's what they're doing.
Pamela Jaye said... >what is the alternative? find a job where you can make more than $21000 per month for child support, or go to jail (where his kids won't be able to spend time with him at all?)
Pamela, child support is based on a complicated formula in PA, but it's mostly based on your income. Child supports are always flexible and subject to change based on a change in circumstances (for instance, Jon gets a different job or Kate marries someone else to support the kids). Were Jon to go out and get a job more comparable to his salary before he sold his kids' privacy (I think it was quoted as something in the 50k range) he would simply have to go back to court and get a modification of his order so that he is paying something more reasonable. A salary like that he would probably be looking more on the order of $600 to $1000 dollars/month, depending. In CA every child support division uses a computer program called Dissomaster. It asks you a bunch of questions including income, then churns out a number. This is the number the judge is going from. A parent can try to get it lower or higher, but it's a good baseline to start from. Most judges just follow dissomaster. Dissomaster is turned to on a daily basis for any family law attorney trying to get an idea of what their client will be expected to pay.
Jon would I hope get himself to court to explain his change in circumstances before being so stupid as to be thrown in jail. While you in theory can throw someone in jail for failure to pay, most judges think it's a lot more productive to have them out in the working world so they can meet their obligations.
Isn't it kind of like robbing Peter to pay Paul when he is making the kids work so he can get his TLC check so he can then pay them? Why not just give the kids their money directly instead of funneling it through Jon first?
That just gave me a thought. Maybe Kate's attorneys were smart enough to inform her that if she marries again Jon might not be required to pay as much child support anymore....her "income" or "available means" could be included with her new husband's thus reducing the amount Jon has to pay.
Maybe that's why she refuses to date, trying to suck Jon dry first like a good narccisist before moving on to the next guy.
It's interesting to me that the sheeple would rather cling to the idea that the children are unhappy ALL OF THE TIME, rather than only with Kate. Odd. Ill. Frightening. But interesting.
BeDoneNow, hahah totally. This is another sheeple argument quickly drummed up to counter whatever we say without actually thinking through what is actually being said.
See look their are tons of photos of the kids with Jon SAD that proves the kids are not always happy with Jon!!
Well yes, but it also proves the kids are sad kids.
Ellie~ I thought the SAME thing about the escalator rail! I am a germaphobe and when I saw Kate holding the escalator rail the other day, I cringed! I hold onto them with the palm of my hand (if at all). There are definitely inconsistencies with some of Kate's claims (germs, heights, religion).
Suddenly the Klovers have a new worry; they are afraid that the twins are bonding with Ellen. Poor Kate, Cara and Mady might find out about a real nurturing relationship!!
"I remember Leah, a four-year-old at the time, discussing money matters with her mom when they bought the new house. It seemed strange for such a little thing to be concerned about how a house was going to get paid for. Kate didn't bother to tell her she was part of a group of eight that was footing the bill for mommy and daddy."
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I remember that so well, and sat there with my mouth open when Kate's reply was, "That's why mommies and daddies work."
Love how the sheeple are saying that the kids are NOT happy because they are with Jon...That they are happy about where they are going.
Ok sheeple...You say all these trips that the kids have been forced to go on are just happy and wonderful experinces for them...they WANT to go on these working vacations.
Using you'r logic...how come we dont see pictures of the kids grining from ear to ear while they were in Alaska or Florida or New York??If the kids really wanted to viset those places like you say...where are the smiles?They should be beaming with smiles cause,afterall...its where they wanted to be right?
Administrator said...Why not just give the kids their money directly instead of funneling it through Jon first?
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TLC had to have cut Jon a sweet deal for him to agree to filming his kids. He's not what anyone can call industrious and this is easy money for him. Basically, he's the same as Kate. Epiphanies be damned, I think if things were the other way around and it was Jon Plus Eight, he'd have done the same thing as Kate is doing.
trucker, I don't understand your angry post at Jon. The pictures of him and the kids somehow don't rub me the wrong way the way Kate's photo ops do. Why do you think jon got paid for these pics? Isn't he, but not kate, prohibited from doing so by tlc? Not defending him; just wondering....
I really don't understand WHY Jon is required to pay 20K + a month. Sure, when they went to court he had all kinds of "coals" in the fire but we all know where those went. Was his lawyer that bad that he didnt get a fair judgement? Why wouldn't they take in consideration Kate's income?
I know this may get me flamed, but why does she keep his last name if she hates him so much? Seems she should layoff the "kicking" him when she has the chance, I don't think she would get very far with Kate Krieder & Kids.
Troy he's required to pay 20k a month because it was based on a complicated formula that mostly has to do with how much income he has. His income appears to be the kids' paychecks. If he pays 20k a month, imagine the amount of money these kids are banking for their mother and father month after month. While they sit back and listen to the sweet sound of the cash register cha-ching-ing.
20k is not a pie in the sky number, it is based on INCOME.
Kate keeps his name for one simple reason...BRAND. They built the GOSSELIN brand. I find that so laughable, and so typical of a narccisist. She doesn't want Jon to have custody of the kids, work, or do anything, but damned if she'll stop using his name as long as it turns a profit for her. Narccisists only have a need for other people to the extent they benefit them.
Kind of like Jon's Farmville game. If you play it you know it helps to have neighbors because it's mutually beneficial. Most people wouldn't bother to try to recruit a bunch of neighbors (other people playing) if it didn't benefit them. Frontierville by the way is a much better game by leaps and bounds, suck it Jon, lol!
Regarding the germaphobe issue...do germaphobes care about spreading THEIR germs to others? Because I wanted to smack Kate with a bottle of Purell when she took the kids to Austins, made them share burgers with each other, and then proceeded to divvy up the food and touched every piece of food those kids had to eat. She had her grubby hands all over every burger and French fry doled out. And any nurse would know that fake nails harbor all kinds of microbes. For instance, fake nails/nail polish are banned from NICUs and ORs to cut down the risk of spreading infection. I don't care if you've just washed your hands; please don't touch my food
I believe that both Jon and Kate get paid for these photo ops. They have their heads together to make as much money as they can off the backs of these kids. I believe they do talk and plan very well about making the big bucks. There was a time where I did believe he did not want his kids on TV and filming but when the money ran out for him, he caved. As for the other parent, well she don't have a brand unless the kids are included so she'll use the same song and dance and say the kids just love having the film crew around. They both love the lifestyle of not having real jobs and keeping their pusses in the limelight is all that this is about.
Well at least he took the kids to a fun place without the camera crew making a circus of the kids. Seems like whenever Katezilla takes the kids anywhere she needs bodyguards, nannies and a camera crew in tow. As for the paps taking this picture, Kate no doubt called her adopted son Chris to run and take the picture so she cash in again. After all, Chris has to pay his way too seeing she set him up a home in the crooked house.
I wonder how much the kids tell Jon about everything & how much he just lets it all go. Do they complain to him about the cameras being in their little faces 24/7? Do they tell Jon how much they hate the papparazzi being in their faces all the time? What do you think Jon tells them? I would love to be able to stand up for those kids & tell both Jon & Kate that what they are BOTH doing is wrong. Jon is just as wrong as Kate, but at least, IMO, from the look of this picture, the kids look much happier with him. That must KILL Kate.
GoPoshGo said... @ Troy Chula Vista: Oy, these are the same ignoramuses who recently excused more of Kate’s indefensible rudeness as completely acceptable. According to posts on BM’s blog, a recent Kate+8 episode shows Kate being rude to a service person (BIG surprise there) because he supposedly put his tool box on her kitchen countertop. The Sheeple justified Kate’s bad behavior due to her being a “germaphobe:” of course Kate wouldn’t want the yucky toolbox on her countertops – ****************************************** A 'germaphobe?' didn't this poor excuse for a human being just visit NYC,Statue of Liberty wearing NO shoes? Please she's NOT a germaphobe shes a bitch! plain and simple. Who likes nothing more than berating and belittleing people. Whether her own children or Service Tech who come to her home. It makes her feel better.
That just gave me a thought. Maybe Kate's attorneys were smart enough to inform her that if she marries again Jon might not be required to pay as much child support anymore....her "income" or "available means" could be included with her new husband's thus reducing the amount Jon has to pay.
Maybe that's why she refuses to date, trying to suck Jon dry first like a good narccisist before moving on to the next guy. August 2, 2010 10:03 PM ************************************************
Not sure what PA laws are, but when my ex's c/s got reevaluated when he took me back to court in FL, my new husband's income was not taken into effect. It was all based around my income. But like i said, i don't know what PA laws are.
The kids definitely look much happier. I love seeing these photos. Hate the 'staged' trip ones. Kate looks miserable, the kids are miserable. Kids just want to spend time being kids, not being tourists.
Hippie Chick said... I wonder how much the kids tell Jon about everything & how much he just lets it all go. Do they complain to him about the cameras being in their little faces 24/7? Do they tell Jon how much they hate the papparazzi being in their faces all the time? What do you think Jon tells them? **************************************** Jon says nothing to their complaints. He does, after all, collect a pay check from their work. Why should he say anything? They stop working - HE can't play Farmville, lay by the pool, tweet or continue with the lovely little lifestyle he's grown accustom too.
I'll bet that the camera crew is there at the house today filming again. After all, they did get weekend off, so its back to work for the kiddies with scripts in hand. Sick of the many trips they take and how much can they make up at the house? She is either getting help build chicken coops, redoing her basement and cleaning the garage with all TLCs hired interns. I say the show has a life capacity of maybe a few more eps before it dies. I don't watch anymore but from I read its basically the same ole except shes not barking orders at Jon, jus the kids now.
She is NOT a germaphobe! It's about CONTROL! That's what her telling that man not to put his toobox on her precious counter was all about. A true "germaphobe" does not PROCLAIM it to the world, they think they will be ridiculed. They either compulsively clean their hands, houses, anything they touch, or they don't even leave the house. She's NEVER home, she's ALWAYS barefoot, never mind just in NYC. She's exposed to all sorts of germs at the spa, I don't care how sanitary they keep it. Airplane travel is one of the worst places to catch any bug. She just felt the need to belittle him, make sure HE knew SHE was in charge.
According to Al W's book, Jon is friendly with a few of the paps. He makes deals with them ... the pap takes the pictures and he and Jon split the proceeds when the pap sells the pictures. No doubt, that's how these latest pictures of Jon with the childen transpired.
Good seeing the kids smiling and laughing even when the paps are there. They def look like they have a more laid back and relaxed time with their Daddy.
Administrator said... BeDoneNow, hahah totally. This is another sheeple argument quickly drummed up to counter whatever we say without actually thinking through what is actually being said.
See look their are tons of photos of the kids with Jon SAD that proves the kids are not always happy with Jon!!
Well yes, but it also proves the kids are sad kids.
**** Yeah, it's kind of frightening really. "They are just miserable children in general, rarely ever smile; it has nothing to do with our beloved Kate."
I dont think I ever realized how close the sheeple are getting to now blaming the CHILDREN for any unpleasant press that comes Kate's way. I fear this will be the next step for that confused group of adults.
Emily, Idiot fathers who use their kids generally do make me angry. I think every outing is premeditated with the paps involvement. Jon is very decietful.
Yeah shes' a germaphobe all right, she has got that germ carrying phone locked to her hand constantly and is getting fake nails and toes done in an unsanitary atmosphere. Don't even get me started about her stroll through the dirty streets of NY City barefoot or lying down on tanning beds either. TLC branded her that name and she is dumb enough to go along with it. I've said it before, shes' a pig with lipstick.
Oh Gee, there is a video posted up from the same pap guy who follows Katezilla, Jon is dropping off the kids at home at the end of the driveway and they are screaming that they don't want him to leave them there. It is so awful that I was so heart broken for him and the kids. Something is not right at that house for them little 6 year olds to be behaving like this. Another thing is, why is this father not allowed to drop his kids off at the door like most dads do? This whole thing with the video is so bad in so many ways. Ya have to listen to it to believe it. I think she is forcing these kids to film and being a bitch with them. I can't think of any other reason. My son never acted like that, something is very wrong there at that house and he really needs to listen to them kids and get it out of them.
Have you guys SEEN the Surviving Sextuplets? The Masche father makes Kate look like a saint. He locked a kid in the bathroom and she was so scared she peed herself. Jesus.
My dog Dimmie said... Kates a germaphobic my ass, shes a pig with lipstick on. The only one who cleaned the house was either Jon or the cleaning crew. ~~~~~ I agree ! Her "crocheted hair" always looks dirty and unkept.Just like her dirty feet ! As far as her house..I saw all the dust behind the furniture when she pulled it out after the cleaning lady left and was in a tizzy that the dust and trash was still there. Who's she trying to kid? She's a lazy ass phony loser ! Her closets and her personal "Private" bedroom were a total mess , just like her life ! The only phobia Kate has is,touching her children with a hug or a simple kiss.
I just do not see what makes the Gosselins so special. We get it already. They are 6 babies born with the help of fertility treaments. Why are they seen as fascinating? Sure they are cute but little kids are always cute. This hype, I pray and hope will just die down. Its disgusting that people, parents like this acctually want a reality tv show. Why? We've seen them do just about everything already--trips, birthdays, meltdowns...what is left?
So Kate or the kids go out. Big deal. I think this reality tv sensation just gives the honest working celebrities (the ones who don't hype everything up on drugs, depression and such) just gives them a bad name.
Maybe when the kids hit their teen years this hype will definitely die down. We all remember how embarrassed we were about being teens and the issues that bother most, I doubt the kids would want to continue being filmed at those ages its awkward enough without the world watching right? But then again, this is Kate who DID say the kids all unanimously voted the wanted the FAMILY JOB. So there is your proof, they are not "playing" in front of the cameras, it's th eir JOB. Boy what I wouldn't give to just wish those kids normalicy like the Dilly kids even if they've done a few specials or whatever it's been nowhere near this hype. They actually go to public school and have normal lives and nobody is as fascinated with them as they have become with the Gosselins...
Smiles or not, the body language on those kids is completely different when they're with their dad, compared with when they're with their mother. Worlds apart!
A 'germaphobe?' didn't this poor excuse for a human being just visit NYC,Statue of Liberty wearing NO shoes? Please she's NOT a germaphobe shes a bitch! plain and simple. Who likes nothing more than berating and belittleing people. Whether her own children or Service Tech who come to her home. It makes her feel better.
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Not to mention brushing her daughters' hair and brushing all the kids' teeth in the KITCHEN. Do I remember her using the same brush on all the girl's hair? Maybe not.
How come we never saw Kate washing her hands all the time? True gemophobes do that, almost unconsciously. If this was some condition of Kate's TLC wanted us to know and understand, we would see signs of it besides Kate washing floors on hands and knees 3 times a day (which we never saw, only heard her say she did) and telling blind-hangers (Andrews St. house) to suck up the plaster dust as they drilled. She may like a neat and clean house because she hates to clean up messes, but she's no germophobe.
I just watched the video on INF. What is wrong? That kind of anguish can't be blamed on fatigue or sugar overload. Those kids are in pain. I don't think that Jon called the pap -- he mostly ignores him. The fact that a nanny collects them and Jon is not allowed up the drive way Kate-crazy! I heard one of the boys wail, "Daddy, don't close the door."
Yes the video at www.infdaily.com is very disturbing.
Also interesting to note that INF says:
INF has exclusive photos and video of Jon Gosselin dropping off the sextuplets yesterday afternoon after they spent the day together at the arcade. The pictures are hard to look at, but the video is absolutely heartbreaking and should be watched with caution, as it’s upsetting. The sextuplets are hysterical: when Jon opens the van’s door you can hear them all crying and wailing that they don’t want to leave him.
Jon waits at the gate of Kate Gosselin’s house while a nanny comes down the driveway and gets into the driver’s seat to take the van into the garage. Twins Mady and Cara come out from the house to greet Jon, and both of them are visibly upset as well, though they’re very quiet. Jon gets into the waiting car of a friend and drives away – it’s clear he’s anguished.
Admin, I'm sure you will start a new thread on this subject when you have a chance.
In the meantime, Sheeple be sure to see and hear the meltdowns of the tups going back to the McMansion. This video screams of something does not smell right at their mom's house.
There is something very wrong here. Jon is not allowed past the gate. The kids do not want to either leave Jon or go back to their mom. The nanny picks up the kids. Kate cries poverty, but there is no poverty in sight here. Her house has a gate and an intercom, with a very long driveway. Where is the poverty?
The kids are staying at a one bedroom apt, and crying that they don't want to go back to the mansion.
There is something wrong going on in that house. As a parent of divorced kids, and a step mom, I see some bad signs of some type of depression or abuse.
Please, please let that INF video go viral! http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-the-gosselin-kids-in-hysterics-over-leaving-dad-jon.html Cara lingers while hugging Jon, not wanting to let go of Jon. The tups are WAILING! Daddy! Daddy! They do not want to say good-bye and go back to the house. You know, I thought that perhaps Kate banning Jon from the house and making him do his drop off and pick ups beyond the gate was an exaggerated rumor. Clearly, it is not. So, these poor children have to do the PERP WALK up and down the driveway to get to their Dad, exposed to the papparazi in their most vunerable moments. How utterly misguided, mean-spirited and despicable of Kate (who btw, either wasn't home or ordered the not-a-nanny down to get into the blue van and drive the kids up to the house. I'm spitting nails here.....
It's official...I am off the fence and out of curiosity. That one video today did it for me. Those kids are suffering. So much for speculation about who is smiling and who isn't. No more excuses about Kate being cautious or germaphobic. A good mom would do everything she could to create peaceful transitions between parents. She would do it FOR the kids and not to punish Jon (who may deserve every bit of her anger, but that is unimportant) Who comforted those kids when they hit the door of the house? Why do the twins seem so sober? What was whispered between Jon and one of the twins during that very long hug? I think Jon looked near tears. What can we do to help them?
OMG!!! OMG!! That video from INF should be some kind of evidence to law enforcement that something is horribly wrong at that house. And the sheeple who will so blindly watch this and somehow make excuses for it and blame it all on Jon shows how idiotic, stupid and delusional they really are. There can be NO excuse for this one. This should be the thing that finally blows Kate out of the water. It won't be because she is protected by TLC, but that is horrific. He's not even allowed on the property that is their home? I hear the sheeple continually call it Kate's home, but you know what, that is not just Kate's home, it is the kids home -- by her own admission. As the kids home, their FATHER should be allowed there as much as her. Hell, they paid for it. That woman is the cruelest woman/mother I have ever seen. That video is heartbreaking. I hope someone, somewhere takes this video and uses it in the proper way to bring her down.
Mickey, I would also like to apologize to you for asking you to stop putting up your warning to not watch any more. Please put it back. I was wrong!! This video is so heartbreaking and only by not watching is that travesty going to end. Even though most of the people on this site are not fans and won't be watching, just in case there is anyone who would be, post it again!!!! Somehow, some way, this needs to stop.
If you look at the comments the sheep are putting on that video, you can clearly see they are so upset by this video. And of course, blaming it all on Jon for the way the kids are crying. Such blindness.
Kate,Since you still have Jon's balls hidden in that house somewere, why don't you strap them on, walk down the driveway and get the kids yourself. Why send a nanny to do your dirty work.
I just watched the video from INF. How heart breaking. I can just hear the desperation in the creis of the children. They want their Daddy! SOOOOOOOO SAD! This reason alone is why I could never divorce my husband. We have been married seven years and when we go through the hard times we both feel like calling it quits. However we both know we always pull through and my husband and I both agree we would never want to put our children through this type of pain. This is just so sad!!!!! And on top of that how sad is it that they are not even greated by their mother during such a hard time....nope they are greated my hired help. So sad!
Just tragic. Jon and Kate must put aside their anger/differences for their kid's sake. I am so sorry for those babies. They have all the material things in the world, but they are living empty lives. "Poor,little rich kids" indeed. Shame on Kate, and shame on Jon. And to all those that think Jon called the pap to video tape him dropping off the kids at the gate- whether or not it's true, those kids are reacting in a genuinely sad way. Prepare yourselves (Jon & Kate), when these 8 human beings grow up, you are both in for a landslide of hate, and blame that will be directed towards the both of you. Fix it now, while you still can...
Re: the INF video.... WOW... just WOW... is all i can say at this point. It is absolutely heartbreaking to hear the kids calling for him and how embarrassing is it for him and the kids that he can't even drive the kids to the front door and drop them off bc Kate has banned him from the "kids property". Something just doesn't feel right w/ that video... its almost as if something is going on in the house that they don't want to go back to. Not sure if its neglect or abuse or both but this is pretty damning evidence in my opinion against Kate.
SOOOOOOOOOOO SAD! My heart breaks for those babies! Their mom is not even home to comfort them during this painful time....nope all they have is hired help.
well... watching this video just did this old mother and grandmother in for the day. I'm sitting here now with tears streamimg down my face and not understanding life at all right now! Why won't someone step up and stand up for these children and put an end to the nightmare they are living in before its too late?
This INF video is heartbreaking. Jon has been hinting for weeks now that the kids are telling him things that he can't reveal and I think he did call the pap to have this evidence of their distress posted online. Kate and her team can spin it all they want, bottom line is these children are not happy, healthy or thriving as Kate maintains on every talk show she visits.
The kids should not be put in the position of having to drive away from their father, leaving him standing there.This just adds to the pain. They should be dropped off at their door, on their familiar territory,and Jon should drive away.
If their mother knows they are going to be upset, and she SHOULD, she should be there to comfort them and divert them with a pleasant activity.
My guess is that they will be grilled about the entire time they spent with their father, and Kate will endeavour to put her own negative spin on it.She once complained that she had to explain Jon's actions to the children.
The right thing to say would be "If you want to know something about your dad, ask HIM".
That video made me cry. My dad didn't see us much and we had separation anxiety when we said good-bye, but THAT HYSTERICAL SHRIEKING is not normal behavior. Go to INF and see the Kate defenders there in the comments section. People seem to forget that even though we adults see their parents through adult eyes, to these kids, that is just their mommy and daddy. The comments there boggle the mind. Well, my mind anyway. They are more worried about bashing Jon than addressing the heartache behind those cries from 6 little kids.
Heart breaking is the only word to describe that video. Very telling when kids are that upset to leave their father. He might be a douche bag but he does love his kids and clearly they love him. I hope more people get to see this on You Tube but of course the sheeple will say Jon set it up although be pretty much ignores the guy and is obviously upset
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... Just tragic. Jon and Kate must put aside their anger/differences for their kid's sake. I am so sorry for those babies. They have all the material things in the world, but they are living empty lives. "Poor,little rich kids" indeed. Shame on Kate, and shame on Jon. And to all those that think Jon called the pap to video tape him dropping off the kids at the gate- whether or not it's true, those kids are reacting in a genuinely sad way. Prepare yourselves (Jon & Kate), when these 8 human beings grow up, you are both in for a landslide of hate, and blame that will be directed towards the both of you. Fix it now, while you still can...
Agreed A Pink
I said this in another thread that Admin posted up not too long ago. The children will hate both parents.
What the hell is going on at the Gosselin Orphanage that would make the kids scream like that.
Can't someone help these kids?
BTW, the sheeple are saying that after Jon closed the van window, he told the kids to start screaming and wailing. They think it's all his fault. Sick, sick, sick.
So sad that video. I do think Jon could have said more than "Enough!", maybe be more comforting, but otherwise, a very telling video of who the kids like to be with more. He WAS very loving towards the kids with the hugs, however, that stern way he told them to stop bothered me. It was heart-wrenching to see those poor children wail like that. How could anyone watch that & not see?? Those poor kids love their daddy so much & just want some normalcy. They just want their daddy. They obviously do not want to go home & be with her. When when people see that? I also wonder how Kate would have handled all the crying kids? Run away to her spa? Hand them off to a nanny? Ignore them? Especially because they were crying for the one person she hates the most, she may start despising? her kids. ( I can't think of the right word here, someone help me out pls...) :) Just a theory...
Was unable to bring myself to watch the video but did read the comments. Whatever my fellow 15'ers say I believe without reservation. I know this is hard but sheeple should just be ignored. Yeah they're good for a laugh, but after reading some of their comments re the arcade and the heart-wrenching goodbye, sheeple have NO credibility left. None. Nada. Their stupidity and ignorance knows no bounds. It's impossible to reason with people of such low intellect.
It is heartbreaking to hear those kids cry like that. And as much as it bothers me, I am also bothered by that videographer's decision to keep filming - though he was 'kind' enough to back away at one point.
I can just see Kate using this video as evidence that being with Jon upsets the kids too much. She is such a useless orange twit.
Sandra August 3, 2010, 3:17 pm Someone explain to me how the kids crying because they don’t see their dad everyday (because he doesn’t have custody and doesn’t want custody) is any sort of proof that they love their daddy more than their mommy. They miss him when he’s not there. He’s not there the majority of the time. WHen they see him it’s not enough for THEM but I’m sure it’s PLENTY for him. He doesn’t even a home that will accommodate all the kids. One bedroom will not do it – but oh, they cried when he dropped them off. I’m sure he did a little dance when he got home. Now his life is his again. He can tweet and smoke and fool around with his girlfriend while Kate does the work of raising her children, and gives them what they need instead of just good times at the arcade. And Jon can laugh and think about all the suckers out there who have sympathy for him, when he has exactly what he wants when it comes to seeing his kids. All the fun, no responsibility.
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Another example of Sheeple nonsense. Even if Jon called the paps, those kids are being genuine in how they feel about him leaving.
Thomas, Tom or more probably STEVE (10:01): Thomas said... Have you guys SEEN the Surviving Sextuplets? The Masche father makes Kate look like a saint. He locked a kid in the bathroom and she was so scared she peed herself. Jesus *******************************************
You're posting the same comment on every blog. Give it up and stop trying to deflect the negative attention that Kate has been getting this summer onto someone else. Kate is a monster and the kids don't want to be with her.
That video is heartbreaking. What amazes me are the comments by some of the sheeple on that site, most notably Jersey - I hope she picked hte name becasue she's a cow and not becasue she's from my home state. There is something very wrong with this picture when the sheeple go to such great lengths to excuse kate and vilify Jon.
The sheeple are as delusional as Kate. They cannot see or understand that those kids were in obvious distress about going home. Sure, kids get upset going from parent to parent, but this was so sad and scary. Something is not right at that house. Their only focus is always to blame Jon - now saying how this was staged and it was his pap friend. Sorry, that is Kate's/TLC's hired pap that follows her around!
TLC = Totally Lacking Conscience. Kate too! IMO Jon is powerless against them, but he seems to be getting his act together and will realize he needs to do whats right for those kids. Hopefully sooner than later.
Kate and her boobyguard can head for Hollywood (since she's such a star - not!) and the kids can live with Jon in a comfortable home and live a normal life, and she can pay him $20,000 a month child support and everyone with live happily ever after. Oh, I can dream can't I!
Troy Chula Vista I hope your not serious when you say Kate does the job (or work as you put it) of raising the kids and giving them what they need?? Kate is nothing but a lazy ass who has the hired help do her work. Why can Jon manage the kids alone but Kate needs a whole entourage of help? The Queen can't even walk down the driveway to get her kids? Oh wait maybe she was out getting some much needed "me time" I think some people post on the site just to create an argument. I can't imagine any sane person really could support this vile woman's actions.
That video is heinous. This is blatant cruelty to those children. Did you hear Jon say that the "Nanny" would probably be down to retrieve the kids and not Kate? Kate couldn't be bothered to get her own children, the are back at the orphanage and their only parent is regulated to leave them outside the gate. Kate is a hateful, horrible woman to do this to her children. Dear god, I just can't believe it, those desperate crys and wails. Administrator, please give this video it's own posting, it should be seen by as many people as possible. Those, poor, poor children. My heart aches for them
From what I understand, Jon was not ordered to pay the $21K/mo, he agreed to pay it during arbitration. Why would he agree to pay such a ridiculous amount unless he had an income that would allow for it? He knew he'd have TLC $$ coming in, is my guess.
In KS they don't count anything but the two parents' incomes. Doesn't matter if either or both spouses are remarried.
Those children did not want to go to that house. That kind of reaction about going back there is really concerning. I really would like to see an investigation. That type of behavior just doesn't sit right with me. Something very wrong is going up in the McMansion. I don't know what it is, I don't know who it involves but something isn't right.
I sincerely hope that Administrator and all the other blog owners will band together and forward this video to The View, The Today Show,ET,The Indsider and everyone else , that has ever had Kate on the air and kissed her fat ass. They need to see this video and open their eyes to what this woman is doing to her children! I would do it but I just don't know how.
I sincerely hope that Administrator and all the other blog owners will band together and forward this video to The View, The Today Show,ET,The Indsider and everyone else , that has ever had Kate on the air and kissed her fat ass. They need to see this video and open their eyes to what this woman is doing to her children! I would do it but I just don't know how.
A 'germaphobe?' didn't this poor excuse for a human being just visit NYC,Statue of Liberty wearing NO shoes? Please she's NOT a germaphobe shes a bitch! plain and simple. Who likes nothing more than berating and belittleing people. Whether her own children or Service Tech who come to her home. It makes her feel better.
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Not to mention brushing her daughters' hair and brushing all the kids' teeth in the KITCHEN. Do I remember her using the same brush on all the girl's hair? Maybe not.
How come we never saw Kate washing her hands all the time? True gemophobes do that, almost unconsciously. If this was some condition of Kate's TLC wanted us to know and understand, we would see signs of it besides Kate washing floors on hands and knees 3 times a day (which we never saw, only heard her say she did) and telling blind-hangers (Andrews St. house) to suck up the plaster dust as they drilled. She may like a neat and clean house because she hates to clean up messes, but she's no germophobe.
Sandra August 3, 2010, 3:17 pm Someone explain to me how the kids crying because they don’t see their dad everyday (because he doesn’t have custody and doesn’t want custody) is any sort of proof that they love their daddy more than their mommy. They miss him when he’s not there. He’s not there the majority of the time. WHen they see him it’s not enough for THEM but I’m sure it’s PLENTY for him. He doesn’t even a home that will accommodate all the kids. One bedroom will not do it – but oh, they cried when he dropped them off. I’m sure he did a little dance when he got home. Now his life is his again. He can tweet and smoke and fool around with his girlfriend while Kate does the work of raising her children, and gives them what they need instead of just good times at the arcade. And Jon can laugh and think about all the suckers out there who have sympathy for him, when he has exactly what he wants when it comes to seeing his kids. All the fun, no responsibility.
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Another example of Sheeple nonsense. Even if Jon called the paps, those kids are being genuine in how they feel about him leaving.
SOOOOOOOOOOO SAD! My heart breaks for those babies! Their mom is not even home to comfort them during this painful time....nope all they have is hired help.
Just tragic. Jon and Kate must put aside their anger/differences for their kid's sake. I am so sorry for those babies. They have all the material things in the world, but they are living empty lives. "Poor,little rich kids" indeed. Shame on Kate, and shame on Jon. And to all those that think Jon called the pap to video tape him dropping off the kids at the gate- whether or not it's true, those kids are reacting in a genuinely sad way. Prepare yourselves (Jon & Kate), when these 8 human beings grow up, you are both in for a landslide of hate, and blame that will be directed towards the both of you. Fix it now, while you still can...
According to Al W's book, Jon is friendly with a few of the paps. He makes deals with them ... the pap takes the pictures and he and Jon split the proceeds when the pap sells the pictures. No doubt, that's how these latest pictures of Jon with the childen transpired.
Kate,Since you still have Jon's balls hidden in that house somewere, why don't you strap them on, walk down the driveway and get the kids yourself. Why send a nanny to do your dirty work.
The kids definitely look much happier. I love seeing these photos. Hate the 'staged' trip ones. Kate looks miserable, the kids are miserable. Kids just want to spend time being kids, not being tourists.
I believe that both Jon and Kate get paid for these photo ops. They have their heads together to make as much money as they can off the backs of these kids. I believe they do talk and plan very well about making the big bucks. There was a time where I did believe he did not want his kids on TV and filming but when the money ran out for him, he caved. As for the other parent, well she don't have a brand unless the kids are included so she'll use the same song and dance and say the kids just love having the film crew around. They both love the lifestyle of not having real jobs and keeping their pusses in the limelight is all that this is about.
If you look at the comments the sheep are putting on that video, you can clearly see they are so upset by this video. And of course, blaming it all on Jon for the way the kids are crying. Such blindness.
Administrator said...Why not just give the kids their money directly instead of funneling it through Jon first?
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TLC had to have cut Jon a sweet deal for him to agree to filming his kids. He's not what anyone can call industrious and this is easy money for him. Basically, he's the same as Kate. Epiphanies be damned, I think if things were the other way around and it was Jon Plus Eight, he'd have done the same thing as Kate is doing.
Pamela Jaye said... >what is the alternative? find a job where you can make more than $21000 per month for child support, or go to jail (where his kids won't be able to spend time with him at all?)
Pamela, child support is based on a complicated formula in PA, but it's mostly based on your income. Child supports are always flexible and subject to change based on a change in circumstances (for instance, Jon gets a different job or Kate marries someone else to support the kids). Were Jon to go out and get a job more comparable to his salary before he sold his kids' privacy (I think it was quoted as something in the 50k range) he would simply have to go back to court and get a modification of his order so that he is paying something more reasonable. A salary like that he would probably be looking more on the order of $600 to $1000 dollars/month, depending. In CA every child support division uses a computer program called Dissomaster. It asks you a bunch of questions including income, then churns out a number. This is the number the judge is going from. A parent can try to get it lower or higher, but it's a good baseline to start from. Most judges just follow dissomaster. Dissomaster is turned to on a daily basis for any family law attorney trying to get an idea of what their client will be expected to pay.
Jon would I hope get himself to court to explain his change in circumstances before being so stupid as to be thrown in jail. While you in theory can throw someone in jail for failure to pay, most judges think it's a lot more productive to have them out in the working world so they can meet their obligations.
Isn't it kind of like robbing Peter to pay Paul when he is making the kids work so he can get his TLC check so he can then pay them? Why not just give the kids their money directly instead of funneling it through Jon first?
Hmmmm.... What's missing in this picture? Collin, Joel and Alexis are not covering their faces. Aaden and Alexis' brows are worry free and not knotted into anxious frowns. Jon is attending to them and not the photographer.
I wonder if the kids look so miserable with Kate because they're embarrassed? To be such a frickin spectacle with the unnecessary bodyguards, the mulptiple nannies, the cameras in tow, and of course, to be accompanied by their sluttily dressed, overly made up mother? How embarrassing must it be to have such a joke of a mom? Someone so desperate for attention who laughably is trying to be hot stuff? Someone hated by much of America? Someone who is criticized for being a bitch and a horrible parent? Just a thought
Kates a germaphobic my ass, shes a pig with lipstick on. The only one who cleaned the house was either Jon or the cleaning crew. TLC wanted to paste her as a germaphobic and she went along with it. She walked along the NY City streets barefoot and for that she is a pig wearing lipstick.
You can be a germaphobe and still not be rude to the hired help.
Simply saying as he comes in oh do you mind if we putt your toolbox down over here in the laundry room (or wherever that is not going to freak her out about germs), I'm a silly germaphone and I have little quirks like that.
He probably would have laughed it off and it would have been fine.
There are ways to accomplish what Kate wants without being a total bitch about everything.
Somebody, probably Jon, has been brushing the little girls' hair; it looks clean and shiny, not messy and all over their faces, or done up in tortured pony tails.Another contrast..
They left with prizes. I hope they keep them at Jon's place because Kate will throw then out.
Personally, I HATE the prizes at these places. CHEAP crap that you pay tons for in the end.
However, they WON it and weren't just handed the prizes, so, I bet they are special. Do they ever get to pick out their toys or does their playing depend on who's sponsoring them that month or wants a toy in the tabloids?
All four of the children's faces we can see have very bright and happy expressions....so are we to believe that at just this right second in time all four of them smiled at the same time? But the rest of the time they were sad and gloomy like how they always look when they're dragged along on filming trips?
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I'm no fan of Jon's but to be fair this pic is indisputable evidence that the kiddos are way happier when they're with dad. Or could be they are just happy to be away from Kate the Killjoy? Or a combination of both.
Why do they always look happy with jon??
Hey look, the kids are actually smiling.
wow,
what a difference when the kids are with Jon. I wish he was man enough to stop the filming though. These kids should be able to be just kids, and not on a work break. I bet they beg their dad for more time with him. I hope they get it.
Look at how happy they look!! That is so nice to see, isn't it?
Love to see the smiles and laughter!
(Don't mean to be Debbie Downer, but wonder where are Mady and Cara?)
The Works is a GREAT place for kiddos! We go there for Birthday parties. Kudos to Jon for bringing NORMAL (or a semblance of it) to their lives. Not so thrilled with the PAP pictures tho.
They really look happy when they are with their dad, just naturally happy. And that is nice for them.
Jon is no prize and he is responsible for standing back and allowing his children to continue to be filmed, but show me one photo from the entire dozens of photos we have of the children's trips to New York, Alaska and L.A. that looks even close to this.
The old this is just a moment of time just doesn't ring true when there isn't a single photo of happy kids the entire trips. And doesn't ring true when photo after photo of the kids with Jon shows them happy.
The only photo where the kids looked remotely happy was when they finally got back to Alaska and were walking OUTSIDE the airport. Yeah prob cause they were happy to be home and begin their visit with their dad without cameras.
All four of the children's faces we can see have very bright and happy expressions....so are we to believe that at just this right second in time all four of them smiled at the same time? But the rest of the time they were sad and gloomy like how they always look when they're dragged along on filming trips?
Please.
How come no bodyguard for the kids? Is that only reserved for queen Kate?...
What incredibly happy children!
Read the little article. Then I read the comments, WOW! The sheeple are plain ignorant. I copied and pasted below:
Peggyp
August 2, 2010, 7:35 pm
(a) that’s not true, and (b) they’re only smiling in the photos where they’re going into the building, so it’s likely that they are smiling about what they are going to be doing as opposed to who is taking them there.
Miss Bu
August 2, 2010, 7:49 pm
The kids are laughing with each other not there father and OH look he has that cellphone in his hand.
Really?
August 2, 2010, 8:36 pm
Really? They look “happy” with Jon? Why lie? They’re laughing with each other, not because of Jon, and there are plenty of pics here where they look absolutely miserable. Don’t pretend they are happy to be with daddy when there are many pictures of them looking plenty unhappy. What purpose do the lies serve?
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Blind fools! Notice how none of the commentors said ANYTHING about Kate thier leader.
They left with prizes. I hope they keep them at Jon's place because Kate will throw then out.
Personally, I HATE the prizes at these places. CHEAP crap that you pay tons for in the end.
However, they WON it and weren't just handed the prizes, so, I bet they are special. Do they ever get to pick out their toys or does their playing depend on who's sponsoring them that month or wants a toy in the tabloids?
Yea! Not one of the kids is dressed like a sibling! Whoo Hoo!
These kids look like they have just been let out of prison
That is one heck of a cute picture. Even though Jon is doing nothing but trying to open the door, the kids look just giddy and excited (going swimming maybe?) and not a matchy-matchy outfit in sight. That's what summer memories are made of - mine are of Garanimals clothes stained by blue (bubblegum) snow cones with trips to the local pool thrown in. Ah, youth!
The children do look happy. Their movement is not scripted and they are not surrounded by TV cameras and technicians. Yes the paps managed to get pictures but hopefully this was at a distance. They seem completely at ease enjoying a day out with their father.
Great pic, those kids are having fun for a change.
Of interest, perhaps, Jon blocked me on twitter. I said something that hurt his little feelings.
It is pretty clear he's closer to the kids.
And he would be: they seem to feel comfortable around him, like they can relax and breathe easy.
They know they can go to him if they feel sick or are in pain.
They know he won't lose his shit all over the place if they so much as get a drop of water or a speck of dirt on themselves.
And the trip to that arcade was obviously just for THEM and not for TLC. When they are allowed to do "fun" things with their mom, it's only to work. With dad, it's just to do fun things.
I guarantee you they feel very differently inside about their dad than they do their mom. I wish he'd stand up to TLC and stop the filming for the sake of his kids, but at least he's a loving parent, unlike their mom.
One picture is worth a 1,000 words, eh?
Somebody, probably Jon, has been brushing the little girls' hair; it looks clean and shiny, not messy and all over their faces, or done up in tortured pony tails.Another contrast..
@ Troy Chula Vista: Oy, these are the same ignoramuses who recently excused more of Kate’s indefensible rudeness as completely acceptable. According to posts on BM’s blog, a recent Kate+8 episode shows Kate being rude to a service person (BIG surprise there) because he supposedly put his tool box on her kitchen countertop. The Sheeple justified Kate’s bad behavior due to her being a “germaphobe:” of course Kate wouldn’t want the yucky toolbox on her countertops – because Kate is SO ultra-worried about germs. I had to laugh out loud as post after post they scaffolded each other’s rationalizations for her rudeness. All the while they seemed to conveniently forget that concurrently to the airing of that episode, Kate was caught clomping around New York City BAREFOOT. Germaphobe, my ass. The Sheeple are myopic, selectively retentive, naive, and ignorant.
You can be a germaphobe and still not be rude to the hired help.
Simply saying as he comes in oh do you mind if we putt your toolbox down over here in the laundry room (or wherever that is not going to freak her out about germs), I'm a silly germaphone and I have little quirks like that.
He probably would have laughed it off and it would have been fine.
There are ways to accomplish what Kate wants without being a total bitch about everything.
The smiles are so nice to see.
Jon just seems to have that magic touch with his kids.
Kate...errrr....not so much. I wonder if they know they have to work for mommies spa treatments so that's why they don't smile when they are with her.
Now that's how kids are supposed to look!
in fact, today I was at the doctors office and as I put my purse up on the counter to pay my bill, I specifically told the administrative help there that they might want to clean the counter after. I put my purse down everywhere, including the floor in a public restroom (unles it's visibly dirty)
I'm not a germophobe, but it was just something that occurred to me that I thought they might care to know.
Life's simple pleasures is something that can't be beat. You don't see the kids beaming like this while trapsing all over the place supposedly being exposed to fun, educational and wonderful adventures (my ass).
>Jon is no prize and he is responsible for standing back and allowing his children to continue to be filmed
what is the alternative? find a job where you can make more than $21000 per month for child support, or go to jail (where his kids won't be able to spend time with him at all?)
Is that really the amount he is supposed to pay? I'm sort of out of the loop.
I hate that TLC has him over a barrel But even with what my brother used to make as a network admin (and it was a lot, at least to me) there was no way he could pull $21000 a month out of it - at least not after taxes - and still have a roof and food for himself.
When is the contract up?
Kates a germaphobic my ass, shes a pig with lipstick on. The only one who cleaned the house was either Jon or the cleaning crew. TLC wanted to paste her as a germaphobic and she went along with it. She walked along the NY City streets barefoot and for that she is a pig wearing lipstick.
You can be a germaphobe and still not be rude to the hired help.
Exactly!!
Kate isn't a Germaphobe. If she was,she wouldn't hold the escalator handrails in the airport. She also wouldn't have her cellphone permanently in her hand as she is constantly cross contaminating with door handles and money.
Jon taking his kids out his his job now . I bet my last dollar he gets a nice cut for all the pics. Jon, you nor Kate deserve these kids. They are your income!
LOSER!!! N
Oh - This is great link. Boy do they ever have her number! TeeHeeHee!
FROM INF:
We’ve been pretty worried about Kate Gosselin after the reality TV star took her brood of eight on vacation to Alaska. What was going to happen to her tan? Would she still be able to make time to get a manicure two to three times a week? Would the world implode if she didn’t? Luckily, we caught Kate getting back to business over the weekend as she and the kids resumed their regular routine in Reading, PA.....(blah blah blah stuff about Jon cooking dinner).....Meanwhile, Kate spent more than three hours at the spa and tanning salon. Luckily, she’s back to a healthy shade of almost-orange. Breathe easy.
http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-kate-gosselin-resumes-her-tanning-routine.html#more-14979
Hmmmm.... What's missing in this picture? Collin, Joel and Alexis are not covering their faces. Aaden and Alexis' brows are worry free and not knotted into anxious frowns. Jon is attending to them and not the photographer.
I wonder if the kids look so miserable with Kate because they're embarrassed? To be such a frickin spectacle with the unnecessary bodyguards, the mulptiple nannies, the cameras in tow, and of course, to be accompanied by their sluttily dressed, overly made up mother? How embarrassing must it be to have such a joke of a mom? Someone so desperate for attention who laughably is trying to be hot stuff? Someone hated by much of America? Someone who is criticized for being a bitch and a horrible parent? Just a thought
I want to add the kids look so nice and relaxed now. What a change from what we see with Kate. I love that they aren't matching. It draws less attention that they are multiples, and they'll look more like everyday kids to others in the arcade.
I don't understand the criticism of Jon with the cell. I don't have a kid, (I'm 22), but when I do I'd like to think I could still hold a conversation on the phone or send a text without being labeled as "ignoring my kids."
Lauren said...I wonder if they know they have to work for mommies spa treatments so that's why they don't smile when they are with her.
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They've been trained to think cameras and filming is a normal way of life but as they get older they'll get wise to what's going on, the same way Cara and Mady have figured it out.
I remember Leah, a four-year-old at the time, discussing money matters with her mom when they bought the new house. It seemed strange for such a little thing to be concerned about how a house was going to get paid for. Kate didn't bother to tell her she was part of a group of eight that was footing the bill for mommy and daddy.
For now when they're with Jon, they're kicking back and enjoying their days off from work, even if they don't know that's what they're doing.
Pamela Jaye said... >what is the alternative? find a job where you can make more than $21000 per month for child support, or go to jail (where his kids won't be able to spend time with him at all?)
Pamela, child support is based on a complicated formula in PA, but it's mostly based on your income. Child supports are always flexible and subject to change based on a change in circumstances (for instance, Jon gets a different job or Kate marries someone else to support the kids). Were Jon to go out and get a job more comparable to his salary before he sold his kids' privacy (I think it was quoted as something in the 50k range) he would simply have to go back to court and get a modification of his order so that he is paying something more reasonable. A salary like that he would probably be looking more on the order of $600 to $1000 dollars/month, depending. In CA every child support division uses a computer program called Dissomaster. It asks you a bunch of questions including income, then churns out a number. This is the number the judge is going from. A parent can try to get it lower or higher, but it's a good baseline to start from. Most judges just follow dissomaster. Dissomaster is turned to on a daily basis for any family law attorney trying to get an idea of what their client will be expected to pay.
Jon would I hope get himself to court to explain his change in circumstances before being so stupid as to be thrown in jail. While you in theory can throw someone in jail for failure to pay, most judges think it's a lot more productive to have them out in the working world so they can meet their obligations.
Isn't it kind of like robbing Peter to pay Paul when he is making the kids work so he can get his TLC check so he can then pay them? Why not just give the kids their money directly instead of funneling it through Jon first?
That just gave me a thought. Maybe Kate's attorneys were smart enough to inform her that if she marries again Jon might not be required to pay as much child support anymore....her "income" or "available means" could be included with her new husband's thus reducing the amount Jon has to pay.
Maybe that's why she refuses to date, trying to suck Jon dry first like a good narccisist before moving on to the next guy.
It's interesting to me that the sheeple would rather cling to the idea that the children are unhappy ALL OF THE TIME, rather than only with Kate. Odd. Ill. Frightening. But interesting.
BeDoneNow, hahah totally. This is another sheeple argument quickly drummed up to counter whatever we say without actually thinking through what is actually being said.
See look their are tons of photos of the kids with Jon SAD that proves the kids are not always happy with Jon!!
Well yes, but it also proves the kids are sad kids.
I of course meant THERE spare the tar and feathers
Ellie~ I thought the SAME thing about the escalator rail! I am a germaphobe and when I saw Kate holding the escalator rail the other day, I cringed! I hold onto them with the palm of my hand (if at all). There are definitely inconsistencies with some of Kate's claims (germs, heights, religion).
Suddenly the Klovers have a new worry; they are afraid that the twins are bonding with Ellen. Poor Kate, Cara and Mady might find out about a real nurturing relationship!!
"I remember Leah, a four-year-old at the time, discussing money matters with her mom when they bought the new house. It seemed strange for such a little thing to be concerned about how a house was going to get paid for. Kate didn't bother to tell her she was part of a group of eight that was footing the bill for mommy and daddy."
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I remember that so well, and sat there with my mouth open when Kate's reply was, "That's why mommies and daddies work."
Love how the sheeple are saying that the kids are NOT happy because they are with Jon...That they are happy about where they are going.
Ok sheeple...You say all these trips that the kids have been forced to go on are just happy and wonderful experinces for them...they WANT to go on these working vacations.
Using you'r logic...how come we dont see pictures of the kids grining from ear to ear while they were in Alaska or Florida or New York??If the kids really wanted to viset those places like you say...where are the smiles?They should be beaming with smiles cause,afterall...its where they wanted to be right?
Administrator said...Why not just give the kids their money directly instead of funneling it through Jon first?
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TLC had to have cut Jon a sweet deal for him to agree to filming his kids. He's not what anyone can call industrious and this is easy money for him. Basically, he's the same as Kate. Epiphanies be damned, I think if things were the other way around and it was Jon Plus Eight, he'd have done the same thing as Kate is doing.
trucker, I don't understand your angry post at Jon. The pictures of him and the kids somehow don't rub me the wrong way the way Kate's photo ops do. Why do you think jon got paid for these pics? Isn't he, but not kate, prohibited from doing so by tlc? Not defending him; just wondering....
I really don't understand WHY Jon is required to pay 20K + a month. Sure, when they went to court he had all kinds of "coals" in the fire but we all know where those went. Was his lawyer that bad that he didnt get a fair judgement? Why wouldn't they take in consideration Kate's income?
I know this may get me flamed, but why does she keep his last name if she hates him so much? Seems she should layoff the "kicking" him when she has the chance, I don't think she would get very far with Kate Krieder & Kids.
Troy he's required to pay 20k a month because it was based on a complicated formula that mostly has to do with how much income he has. His income appears to be the kids' paychecks. If he pays 20k a month, imagine the amount of money these kids are banking for their mother and father month after month. While they sit back and listen to the sweet sound of the cash register cha-ching-ing.
20k is not a pie in the sky number, it is based on INCOME.
Kate keeps his name for one simple reason...BRAND. They built the GOSSELIN brand. I find that so laughable, and so typical of a narccisist. She doesn't want Jon to have custody of the kids, work, or do anything, but damned if she'll stop using his name as long as it turns a profit for her. Narccisists only have a need for other people to the extent they benefit them.
Kind of like Jon's Farmville game. If you play it you know it helps to have neighbors because it's mutually beneficial. Most people wouldn't bother to try to recruit a bunch of neighbors (other people playing) if it didn't benefit them. Frontierville by the way is a much better game by leaps and bounds, suck it Jon, lol!
Of course this isn't Farmville this is real life.
I am sure Kate kept her name for fame but I kept mine to match my minor children who would still be living with me.
Regarding the germaphobe issue...do germaphobes care about spreading THEIR germs to others? Because I wanted to smack Kate with a bottle of Purell when she took the kids to Austins, made them share burgers with each other, and then proceeded to divvy up the food and touched every piece of food those kids had to eat. She had her grubby hands all over every burger and French fry doled out. And any nurse would know that fake nails harbor all kinds of microbes. For instance, fake nails/nail polish are banned from NICUs and ORs to cut down the risk of spreading infection. I don't care if you've just washed your hands; please don't touch my food
I believe that both Jon and Kate get paid for these photo ops. They have their heads together to make as much money as they can off the backs of these kids. I believe they do talk and plan very well about making the big bucks. There was a time where I did believe he did not want his kids on TV and filming but when the money ran out for him, he caved. As for the other parent, well she don't have a brand unless the kids are included so she'll use the same song and dance and say the kids just love having the film crew around. They both love the lifestyle of not having real jobs and keeping their pusses in the limelight is all that this is about.
Well at least he took the kids to a fun place without the camera crew making a circus of the kids. Seems like whenever Katezilla takes the kids anywhere she needs bodyguards, nannies and a camera crew in tow. As for the paps taking this picture, Kate no doubt called her adopted son Chris to run and take the picture so she cash in again. After all, Chris has to pay his way too seeing she set him up a home in the crooked house.
I wonder how much the kids tell Jon about everything & how much he just lets it all go. Do they complain to him about the cameras being in their little faces 24/7? Do they tell Jon how much they hate the papparazzi being in their faces all the time? What do you think Jon tells them? I would love to be able to stand up for those kids & tell both Jon & Kate that what they are BOTH doing is wrong. Jon is just as wrong as Kate, but at least, IMO, from the look of this picture, the kids look much happier with him. That must KILL Kate.
GoPoshGo said...
@ Troy Chula Vista: Oy, these are the same ignoramuses who recently excused more of Kate’s indefensible rudeness as completely acceptable. According to posts on BM’s blog, a recent Kate+8 episode shows Kate being rude to a service person (BIG surprise there) because he supposedly put his tool box on her kitchen countertop. The Sheeple justified Kate’s bad behavior due to her being a “germaphobe:” of course Kate wouldn’t want the yucky toolbox on her countertops –
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A 'germaphobe?' didn't this poor excuse for a human being just visit NYC,Statue of Liberty wearing NO shoes? Please she's NOT a germaphobe shes a bitch! plain and simple. Who likes nothing more than berating and belittleing people. Whether her own children or Service Tech who come to her home. It makes her feel better.
Administrator said...
That just gave me a thought. Maybe Kate's attorneys were smart enough to inform her that if she marries again Jon might not be required to pay as much child support anymore....her "income" or "available means" could be included with her new husband's thus reducing the amount Jon has to pay.
Maybe that's why she refuses to date, trying to suck Jon dry first like a good narccisist before moving on to the next guy.
August 2, 2010 10:03 PM
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Not sure what PA laws are, but when my ex's c/s got reevaluated when he took me back to court in FL, my new husband's income was not taken into effect. It was all based around my income. But like i said, i don't know what PA laws are.
The kids definitely look much happier. I love seeing these photos. Hate the 'staged' trip ones. Kate looks miserable, the kids are miserable. Kids just want to spend time being kids, not being tourists.
Hippie Chick said...
I wonder how much the kids tell Jon about everything & how much he just lets it all go. Do they complain to him about the cameras being in their little faces 24/7? Do they tell Jon how much they hate the papparazzi being in their faces all the time? What do you think Jon tells them?
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Jon says nothing to their complaints. He does, after all, collect a pay check from their work. Why should he say anything? They stop working - HE can't play Farmville, lay by the pool, tweet or continue with the lovely little lifestyle he's grown accustom too.
I'll bet that the camera crew is there at the house today filming again. After all, they did get weekend off, so its back to work for the kiddies with scripts in hand. Sick of the many trips they take and how much can they make up at the house? She is either getting help build chicken coops, redoing her basement and cleaning the garage with all TLCs hired interns. I say the show has a life capacity of maybe a few more eps before it dies. I don't watch anymore but from I read its basically the same ole except shes not barking orders at Jon, jus the kids now.
She is NOT a germaphobe! It's about CONTROL! That's what her telling that man not to put his toobox on her precious counter was all about. A true "germaphobe" does not PROCLAIM it to the world, they think they will be ridiculed. They either compulsively clean their hands, houses, anything they touch, or they don't even leave the house. She's NEVER home, she's ALWAYS barefoot, never mind just in NYC. She's exposed to all sorts of germs at the spa, I don't care how sanitary they keep it. Airplane travel is one of the worst places to catch any bug.
She just felt the need to belittle him, make sure HE knew SHE was in charge.
According to Al W's book, Jon is friendly with a few of the paps. He makes deals with them ... the pap takes the pictures and he and Jon split the proceeds when the pap sells the pictures. No doubt, that's how these latest pictures of Jon with the childen transpired.
Good seeing the kids smiling and laughing even when the paps are there. They def look like they have a more laid back and relaxed time with their Daddy.
Administrator said... BeDoneNow, hahah totally. This is another sheeple argument quickly drummed up to counter whatever we say without actually thinking through what is actually being said.
See look their are tons of photos of the kids with Jon SAD that proves the kids are not always happy with Jon!!
Well yes, but it also proves the kids are sad kids.
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Yeah, it's kind of frightening really. "They are just miserable children in general, rarely ever smile; it has nothing to do with our beloved Kate."
I dont think I ever realized how close the sheeple are getting to now blaming the CHILDREN for any unpleasant press that comes Kate's way. I fear this will be the next step for that confused group of adults.
Emily,
Idiot fathers who use their kids generally do
make me angry. I think every outing is premeditated with the paps involvement. Jon is very decietful.
I noticed that Hannah's hair is down to her derriere. Isn't that a bit much for a 6-year old?
Yeah shes' a germaphobe all right, she has got that germ carrying phone locked to her hand constantly and is getting fake nails and toes done in an unsanitary atmosphere. Don't even get me started about her stroll through the dirty streets of NY City barefoot or lying down on tanning beds either. TLC branded her that name and she is dumb enough to go along with it. I've said it before, shes' a pig with lipstick.
Oh Gee, there is a video posted up from the same pap guy who follows Katezilla, Jon is dropping off the kids at home at the end of the driveway and they are screaming that they don't want him to leave them there. It is so awful that I was so heart broken for him and the kids. Something is not right at that house for them little 6 year olds to be behaving like this. Another thing is, why is this father not allowed to drop his kids off at the door like most dads do? This whole thing with the video is so bad in so many ways. Ya have to listen to it to believe it. I think she is forcing these kids to film and being a bitch with them. I can't think of any other reason. My son never acted like that, something is very wrong there at that house and he really needs to listen to them kids and get it out of them.
There is a video on INF of Jon bringing the kids home. It's heartbreaking.
Have you guys SEEN the Surviving Sextuplets? The Masche father makes Kate look like a saint. He locked a kid in the bathroom and she was so scared she peed herself. Jesus.
My dog Dimmie said...
Kates a germaphobic my ass, shes a pig with lipstick on. The only one who cleaned the house was either Jon or the cleaning crew.
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I agree ! Her "crocheted hair" always looks dirty and unkept.Just like her dirty feet !
As far as her house..I saw all the dust behind the furniture when she pulled it out after the cleaning lady left and was in a tizzy that the dust and trash was still there.
Who's she trying to kid? She's a lazy ass phony loser !
Her closets and her personal "Private" bedroom were a total mess , just like her life !
The only phobia Kate has is,touching her children with a hug or a simple kiss.
I just do not see what makes the Gosselins so special. We get it already. They are 6 babies born with the help of fertility treaments. Why are they seen as fascinating? Sure they are cute but little kids are always cute. This hype, I pray and hope will just die down. Its disgusting that people, parents like this acctually want a reality tv show. Why? We've seen them do just about everything already--trips, birthdays, meltdowns...what is left?
So Kate or the kids go out. Big deal. I think this reality tv sensation just gives the honest working celebrities (the ones who don't hype everything up on drugs, depression and such) just gives them a bad name.
Maybe when the kids hit their teen years this hype will definitely die down. We all remember how embarrassed we were about being teens and the issues that bother most, I doubt the kids would want to continue being filmed at those ages its awkward enough without the world watching right? But then again, this is Kate who DID say the kids all unanimously voted the wanted the FAMILY JOB. So there is your proof, they are not "playing" in front of the cameras, it's th eir JOB. Boy what I wouldn't give to just wish those kids normalicy like the Dilly kids even if they've done a few specials or whatever it's been nowhere near this hype. They actually go to public school and have normal lives and nobody is as fascinated with them as they have become with the Gosselins...
Smiles or not, the body language on those kids is completely different when they're with their dad, compared with when they're with their mother. Worlds apart!
A 'germaphobe?' didn't this poor excuse for a human being just visit NYC,Statue of Liberty wearing NO shoes? Please she's NOT a germaphobe shes a bitch! plain and simple. Who likes nothing more than berating and belittleing people. Whether her own children or Service Tech who come to her home. It makes her feel better.
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Not to mention brushing her daughters' hair and brushing all the kids' teeth in the KITCHEN. Do I remember her using the same brush on all the girl's hair? Maybe not.
How come we never saw Kate washing her hands all the time? True gemophobes do that, almost unconsciously. If this was some condition of Kate's TLC wanted us to know and understand, we would see signs of it besides Kate washing floors on hands and knees 3 times a day (which we never saw, only heard her say she did) and telling blind-hangers (Andrews St. house) to suck up the plaster dust as they drilled. She may like a neat and clean house because she hates to clean up messes, but she's no germophobe.
Vanessa, you hit it on the nose!
One more thing- just an observation: how come there is no bodyguard for the kids when they are out without their mother?...
This is very sad indeed........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TLWZH91VYY&feature=player_embedded
I just watched the video on INF. What is wrong? That kind of anguish can't be blamed on fatigue or sugar overload. Those kids are in pain. I don't think that Jon called the pap -- he mostly ignores him. The fact that a nanny collects them and Jon is not allowed up the drive way Kate-crazy! I heard one of the boys wail, "Daddy, don't close the door."
Did you bloggers see the video of the custody exchange on INF??? Lordie bee the bar gets lower and lower.....
http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-the-gosselin-kids-in-hysterics-over-leaving-dad-jon.html#more-15175
Yes the video at www.infdaily.com is very disturbing.
Also interesting to note that INF says:
INF has exclusive photos and video of Jon Gosselin dropping off the sextuplets yesterday afternoon after they spent the day together at the arcade. The pictures are hard to look at, but the video is absolutely heartbreaking and should be watched with caution, as it’s upsetting. The sextuplets are hysterical: when Jon opens the van’s door you can hear them all crying and wailing that they don’t want to leave him.
Jon waits at the gate of Kate Gosselin’s house while a nanny comes down the driveway and gets into the driver’s seat to take the van into the garage. Twins Mady and Cara come out from the house to greet Jon, and both of them are visibly upset as well, though they’re very quiet. Jon gets into the waiting car of a friend and drives away – it’s clear he’s anguished.
Admin, I'm sure you will start a new thread on this subject when you have a chance.
In the meantime, Sheeple be sure to see and hear the meltdowns of the tups going back to the McMansion. This video screams of something does not smell right at their mom's house.
JMO.
There is something very wrong here. Jon is not allowed past the gate. The kids do not want to either leave Jon or go back to their mom. The nanny picks up the kids. Kate cries poverty, but there is no poverty in sight here. Her house has a gate and an intercom, with a very long driveway. Where is the poverty?
The kids are staying at a one bedroom apt, and crying that they don't want to go back to the mansion.
There is something wrong going on in that house. As a parent of divorced kids, and a step mom, I see some bad signs of some type of depression or abuse.
I agree, a new thread needs to be published about this abomination!
Please, please let that INF video go viral!
http://www.infdaily.com/2010/08/exclusive-the-gosselin-kids-in-hysterics-over-leaving-dad-jon.html
Cara lingers while hugging Jon, not wanting to let go of Jon. The tups are WAILING! Daddy! Daddy! They do not want to say good-bye and go back to the house.
You know, I thought that perhaps Kate banning Jon from the house and making him do his drop off and pick ups beyond the gate was an exaggerated rumor.
Clearly, it is not.
So, these poor children have to do the PERP WALK up and down the driveway to get to their Dad, exposed to the papparazi in their most vunerable moments.
How utterly misguided, mean-spirited and despicable of Kate (who btw, either wasn't home or ordered the not-a-nanny down to get into the blue van and drive the kids up to the house.
I'm spitting nails here.....
It's official...I am off the fence and out of curiosity. That one video today did it for me. Those kids are suffering. So much for speculation about who is smiling and who isn't. No more excuses about Kate being cautious or germaphobic. A good mom would do everything she could to create peaceful transitions between parents. She would do it FOR the kids and not to punish Jon (who may deserve every bit of her anger, but that is unimportant) Who comforted those kids when they hit the door of the house? Why do the twins seem so sober? What was whispered between Jon and one of the twins during that very long hug? I think Jon looked near tears. What can we do to help them?
OMG!!! OMG!! That video from INF should be some kind of evidence to law enforcement that something is horribly wrong at that house. And the sheeple who will so blindly watch this and somehow make excuses for it and blame it all on Jon shows how idiotic, stupid and delusional they really are. There can be NO excuse for this one. This should be the thing that finally blows Kate out of the water. It won't be because she is protected by TLC, but that is horrific. He's not even allowed on the property that is their home? I hear the sheeple continually call it Kate's home, but you know what, that is not just Kate's home, it is the kids home -- by her own admission. As the kids home, their FATHER should be allowed there as much as her. Hell, they paid for it. That woman is the cruelest woman/mother I have ever seen. That video is heartbreaking. I hope someone, somewhere takes this video and uses it in the proper way to bring her down.
Mickey, I would also like to apologize to you for asking you to stop putting up your warning to not watch any more. Please put it back. I was wrong!! This video is so heartbreaking and only by not watching is that travesty going to end. Even though most of the people on this site are not fans and won't be watching, just in case there is anyone who would be, post it again!!!! Somehow, some way, this needs to stop.
If you look at the comments the sheep are putting on that video, you can clearly see they are so upset by this video. And of course, blaming it all on Jon for the way the kids are crying. Such blindness.
Kate,Since you still have Jon's balls hidden in that house somewere, why don't you strap them on, walk down the driveway and get the kids yourself. Why send a nanny to do your dirty work.
I just watched the video from INF. How heart breaking. I can just hear the desperation in the creis of the children. They want their Daddy! SOOOOOOOO SAD! This reason alone is why I could never divorce my husband. We have been married seven years and when we go through the hard times we both feel like calling it quits. However we both know we always pull through and my husband and I both agree we would never want to put our children through this type of pain. This is just so sad!!!!!
And on top of that how sad is it that they are not even greated by their mother during such a hard time....nope they are greated my hired help.
So sad!
Just tragic. Jon and Kate must put aside their anger/differences for their kid's sake. I am so sorry for those babies. They have all the material things in the world, but they are living empty lives. "Poor,little rich kids" indeed.
Shame on Kate, and shame on Jon. And to all those that think Jon called the pap to video tape him dropping off the kids at the gate- whether or not it's true, those kids are reacting in a genuinely sad way. Prepare yourselves (Jon & Kate), when these 8 human beings grow up, you are both in for a landslide of hate, and blame that will be directed towards the both of you. Fix it now, while you still can...
Re: the INF video.... WOW... just WOW... is all i can say at this point. It is absolutely heartbreaking to hear the kids calling for him and how embarrassing is it for him and the kids that he can't even drive the kids to the front door and drop them off bc Kate has banned him from the "kids property". Something just doesn't feel right w/ that video... its almost as if something is going on in the house that they don't want to go back to. Not sure if its neglect or abuse or both but this is pretty damning evidence in my opinion against Kate.
SOOOOOOOOOOO SAD! My heart breaks for those babies! Their mom is not even home to comfort them during this painful time....nope all they have is hired help.
well... watching this video just did this old mother and grandmother in for the day.
I'm sitting here now with tears streamimg down my face and not understanding life at all right now!
Why won't someone step up and stand up for these children and put an end to the nightmare they are living in before its too late?
This INF video is heartbreaking. Jon has been hinting for weeks now that the kids are telling him things that he can't reveal and I think he did call the pap to have this evidence of their distress posted online.
Kate and her team can spin it all they want, bottom line is these children are not happy, healthy or thriving as Kate maintains on every talk show she visits.
The kids should not be put in the position of having to drive away from their father, leaving him standing there.This just adds to the pain. They should be dropped off at their door, on their familiar territory,and Jon should drive away.
If their mother knows they are going to be upset, and she SHOULD, she should be there to comfort them and divert them with a pleasant activity.
My guess is that they will be grilled about the entire time they spent with their father, and Kate will endeavour to put her own negative spin on it.She once complained that she had to explain Jon's actions to the children.
The right thing to say would be "If you want to know something about your dad, ask HIM".
That video made me cry. My dad didn't see us much and we had separation anxiety when we said good-bye, but THAT HYSTERICAL SHRIEKING is not normal behavior. Go to INF and see the Kate defenders there in the comments section. People seem to forget that even though we adults see their parents through adult eyes, to these kids, that is just their mommy and daddy. The comments there boggle the mind. Well, my mind anyway. They are more worried about bashing Jon than addressing the heartache behind those cries from 6 little kids.
Heart breaking is the only word to describe that video. Very telling when kids are that upset to leave their father. He might be a douche bag but he does love his kids and clearly they love him. I hope more people get to see this on You Tube but of course the sheeple will say Jon set it up although be pretty much ignores the guy and is obviously upset
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... Just tragic. Jon and Kate must put aside their anger/differences for their kid's sake. I am so sorry for those babies. They have all the material things in the world, but they are living empty lives. "Poor,little rich kids" indeed.
Shame on Kate, and shame on Jon. And to all those that think Jon called the pap to video tape him dropping off the kids at the gate- whether or not it's true, those kids are reacting in a genuinely sad way. Prepare yourselves (Jon & Kate), when these 8 human beings grow up, you are both in for a landslide of hate, and blame that will be directed towards the both of you. Fix it now, while you still can...
Agreed A Pink
I said this in another thread that Admin posted up not too long ago. The children will hate both parents.
I watched the video and I teared up.
What the hell is going on at the Gosselin Orphanage that would make the kids scream like that.
Can't someone help these kids?
BTW, the sheeple are saying that after Jon closed the van window, he told the kids to start screaming and wailing. They think it's all his fault.
Sick, sick, sick.
Everyone is smiling, happy and no one is covering their face!@
So sad that video. I do think Jon could have said more than "Enough!", maybe be more comforting, but otherwise, a very telling video of who the kids like to be with more. He WAS very loving towards the kids with the hugs, however, that stern way he told them to stop bothered me. It was heart-wrenching to see those poor children wail like that. How could anyone watch that & not see?? Those poor kids love their daddy so much & just want some normalcy. They just want their daddy. They obviously do not want to go home & be with her. When when people see that?
I also wonder how Kate would have handled all the crying kids? Run away to her spa? Hand them off to a nanny? Ignore them? Especially because they were crying for the one person she hates the most, she may start despising? her kids. ( I can't think of the right word here, someone help me out pls...) :) Just a theory...
Was unable to bring myself to watch the video but did read the comments. Whatever my fellow 15'ers say I believe without reservation. I know this is hard but sheeple should just be ignored. Yeah they're good for a laugh, but after reading some of their comments re the arcade and the heart-wrenching goodbye, sheeple have NO credibility left. None. Nada. Their stupidity and ignorance knows no bounds. It's impossible to reason with people of such low intellect.
It is heartbreaking to hear those kids cry like that. And as much as it bothers me, I am also bothered by that videographer's decision to keep filming - though he was 'kind' enough to back away at one point.
I can just see Kate using this video as evidence that being with Jon upsets the kids too much. She is such a useless orange twit.
Sandra
August 3, 2010, 3:17 pm
Someone explain to me how the kids crying because they don’t see their dad everyday (because he doesn’t have custody and doesn’t want custody) is any sort of proof that they love their daddy more than their mommy. They miss him when he’s not there. He’s not there the majority of the time. WHen they see him it’s not enough for THEM but I’m sure it’s PLENTY for him. He doesn’t even a home that will accommodate all the kids. One bedroom will not do it – but oh, they cried when he dropped them off. I’m sure he did a little dance when he got home. Now his life is his again. He can tweet and smoke and fool around with his girlfriend while Kate does the work of raising her children, and gives them what they need instead of just good times at the arcade. And Jon can laugh and think about all the suckers out there who have sympathy for him, when he has exactly what he wants when it comes to seeing his kids. All the fun, no responsibility.
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Another example of Sheeple nonsense. Even if Jon called the paps, those kids are being genuine in how they feel about him leaving.
Thomas, Tom or more probably STEVE (10:01):
Thomas said... Have you guys SEEN the Surviving Sextuplets? The Masche father makes Kate look like a saint. He locked a kid in the bathroom and she was so scared she peed herself. Jesus
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You're posting the same comment on every blog. Give it up and stop trying to deflect the negative attention that Kate has been getting this summer onto someone else. Kate is a monster and the kids don't want to be with her.
That video is heartbreaking. What amazes me are the comments by some of the sheeple on that site, most notably Jersey - I hope she picked hte name becasue she's a cow and not becasue she's from my home state. There is something very wrong with this picture when the sheeple go to such great lengths to excuse kate and vilify Jon.
The sheeple are as delusional as Kate. They cannot see or understand that those kids were in obvious distress about going home. Sure, kids get upset going from parent to parent, but this was so sad and scary. Something is not right at that house. Their only focus is always to blame Jon - now saying how this was staged and it was his pap friend. Sorry, that is Kate's/TLC's hired pap that follows her around!
TLC = Totally Lacking Conscience. Kate too! IMO Jon is powerless against them, but he seems to be getting his act together and will realize he needs to do whats right for those kids. Hopefully sooner than later.
Kate and her boobyguard can head for Hollywood (since she's such a star - not!) and the kids can live with Jon in a comfortable home and live a normal life, and she can pay him $20,000 a month child support and everyone with live happily ever after. Oh, I can dream can't I!
Troy Chula Vista I hope your not serious when you say Kate does the job (or work as you put it) of raising the kids and giving them what they need?? Kate is nothing but a lazy ass who has the hired help do her work. Why can Jon manage the kids alone but Kate needs a whole entourage of help? The Queen can't even walk down the driveway to get her kids? Oh wait maybe she was out getting some much needed "me time" I think some people post on the site just to create an argument. I can't imagine any sane person really could support this vile woman's actions.
That video is heinous. This is blatant cruelty to those children. Did you hear Jon say that the "Nanny" would probably be down to retrieve the kids and not Kate? Kate couldn't be bothered to get her own children, the are back at the orphanage and their only parent is regulated to leave them outside the gate.
Kate is a hateful, horrible woman to do this to her children. Dear god, I just can't believe it, those desperate crys and wails.
Administrator, please give this video it's own posting, it should be seen by as many people as possible. Those, poor, poor children. My heart aches for them
Emschick, Troy chula vista was posting a Sheeple comment that was made on another board. It's all good!
From what I understand, Jon was not ordered to pay the $21K/mo, he agreed to pay it during arbitration. Why would he agree to pay such a ridiculous amount unless he had an income that would allow for it? He knew he'd have TLC $$ coming in, is my guess.
In KS they don't count anything but the two parents' incomes. Doesn't matter if either or both spouses are remarried.
Those children did not want to go to that house. That kind of reaction about going back there is really concerning. I really would like to see an investigation. That type of behavior just doesn't sit right with me. Something very wrong is going up in the McMansion. I don't know what it is, I don't know who it involves but something isn't right.
I sincerely hope that Administrator and all the other blog owners will band together and forward this video to The View, The Today Show,ET,The Indsider and everyone else , that has ever had Kate on the air and kissed her fat ass.
They need to see this video and open their eyes to what this woman is doing to her children!
I would do it but I just don't know how.
Admin,
thanks for the info.
You know, I am still upset over this video and how the kids sounded as many of you are. Then I look at Jon's twitter?? I could just slap him.
"Happy with my life right now and glad to have so many supporters!"
about 1 hour ago via web
How sad looking at this picture of joy, knowing what happened later.
Sad sad sad.
You know, I am still upset over this video and how the kids sounded as many of you are. Then I look at Jon's twitter?? I could just slap him.
"Happy with my life right now and glad to have so many supporters!"
about 1 hour ago via web
I sincerely hope that Administrator and all the other blog owners will band together and forward this video to The View, The Today Show,ET,The Indsider and everyone else , that has ever had Kate on the air and kissed her fat ass.
They need to see this video and open their eyes to what this woman is doing to her children!
I would do it but I just don't know how.
One more thing- just an observation: how come there is no bodyguard for the kids when they are out without their mother?...
Vanessa, you hit it on the nose!
A 'germaphobe?' didn't this poor excuse for a human being just visit NYC,Statue of Liberty wearing NO shoes? Please she's NOT a germaphobe shes a bitch! plain and simple. Who likes nothing more than berating and belittleing people. Whether her own children or Service Tech who come to her home. It makes her feel better.
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Not to mention brushing her daughters' hair and brushing all the kids' teeth in the KITCHEN. Do I remember her using the same brush on all the girl's hair? Maybe not.
How come we never saw Kate washing her hands all the time? True gemophobes do that, almost unconsciously. If this was some condition of Kate's TLC wanted us to know and understand, we would see signs of it besides Kate washing floors on hands and knees 3 times a day (which we never saw, only heard her say she did) and telling blind-hangers (Andrews St. house) to suck up the plaster dust as they drilled. She may like a neat and clean house because she hates to clean up messes, but she's no germophobe.
There is a video on INF of Jon bringing the kids home. It's heartbreaking.
Sandra
August 3, 2010, 3:17 pm
Someone explain to me how the kids crying because they don’t see their dad everyday (because he doesn’t have custody and doesn’t want custody) is any sort of proof that they love their daddy more than their mommy. They miss him when he’s not there. He’s not there the majority of the time. WHen they see him it’s not enough for THEM but I’m sure it’s PLENTY for him. He doesn’t even a home that will accommodate all the kids. One bedroom will not do it – but oh, they cried when he dropped them off. I’m sure he did a little dance when he got home. Now his life is his again. He can tweet and smoke and fool around with his girlfriend while Kate does the work of raising her children, and gives them what they need instead of just good times at the arcade. And Jon can laugh and think about all the suckers out there who have sympathy for him, when he has exactly what he wants when it comes to seeing his kids. All the fun, no responsibility.
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Another example of Sheeple nonsense. Even if Jon called the paps, those kids are being genuine in how they feel about him leaving.
SOOOOOOOOOOO SAD! My heart breaks for those babies! Their mom is not even home to comfort them during this painful time....nope all they have is hired help.
Just tragic. Jon and Kate must put aside their anger/differences for their kid's sake. I am so sorry for those babies. They have all the material things in the world, but they are living empty lives. "Poor,little rich kids" indeed.
Shame on Kate, and shame on Jon. And to all those that think Jon called the pap to video tape him dropping off the kids at the gate- whether or not it's true, those kids are reacting in a genuinely sad way. Prepare yourselves (Jon & Kate), when these 8 human beings grow up, you are both in for a landslide of hate, and blame that will be directed towards the both of you. Fix it now, while you still can...
According to Al W's book, Jon is friendly with a few of the paps. He makes deals with them ... the pap takes the pictures and he and Jon split the proceeds when the pap sells the pictures. No doubt, that's how these latest pictures of Jon with the childen transpired.
Kate,Since you still have Jon's balls hidden in that house somewere, why don't you strap them on, walk down the driveway and get the kids yourself. Why send a nanny to do your dirty work.
The kids definitely look much happier. I love seeing these photos. Hate the 'staged' trip ones. Kate looks miserable, the kids are miserable. Kids just want to spend time being kids, not being tourists.
I believe that both Jon and Kate get paid for these photo ops. They have their heads together to make as much money as they can off the backs of these kids. I believe they do talk and plan very well about making the big bucks. There was a time where I did believe he did not want his kids on TV and filming but when the money ran out for him, he caved. As for the other parent, well she don't have a brand unless the kids are included so she'll use the same song and dance and say the kids just love having the film crew around. They both love the lifestyle of not having real jobs and keeping their pusses in the limelight is all that this is about.
If you look at the comments the sheep are putting on that video, you can clearly see they are so upset by this video. And of course, blaming it all on Jon for the way the kids are crying. Such blindness.
Administrator said...Why not just give the kids their money directly instead of funneling it through Jon first?
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TLC had to have cut Jon a sweet deal for him to agree to filming his kids. He's not what anyone can call industrious and this is easy money for him. Basically, he's the same as Kate. Epiphanies be damned, I think if things were the other way around and it was Jon Plus Eight, he'd have done the same thing as Kate is doing.
I of course meant THERE spare the tar and feathers
Pamela Jaye said... >what is the alternative? find a job where you can make more than $21000 per month for child support, or go to jail (where his kids won't be able to spend time with him at all?)
Pamela, child support is based on a complicated formula in PA, but it's mostly based on your income. Child supports are always flexible and subject to change based on a change in circumstances (for instance, Jon gets a different job or Kate marries someone else to support the kids). Were Jon to go out and get a job more comparable to his salary before he sold his kids' privacy (I think it was quoted as something in the 50k range) he would simply have to go back to court and get a modification of his order so that he is paying something more reasonable. A salary like that he would probably be looking more on the order of $600 to $1000 dollars/month, depending. In CA every child support division uses a computer program called Dissomaster. It asks you a bunch of questions including income, then churns out a number. This is the number the judge is going from. A parent can try to get it lower or higher, but it's a good baseline to start from. Most judges just follow dissomaster. Dissomaster is turned to on a daily basis for any family law attorney trying to get an idea of what their client will be expected to pay.
Jon would I hope get himself to court to explain his change in circumstances before being so stupid as to be thrown in jail. While you in theory can throw someone in jail for failure to pay, most judges think it's a lot more productive to have them out in the working world so they can meet their obligations.
Isn't it kind of like robbing Peter to pay Paul when he is making the kids work so he can get his TLC check so he can then pay them? Why not just give the kids their money directly instead of funneling it through Jon first?
Hmmmm.... What's missing in this picture? Collin, Joel and Alexis are not covering their faces. Aaden and Alexis' brows are worry free and not knotted into anxious frowns. Jon is attending to them and not the photographer.
I wonder if the kids look so miserable with Kate because they're embarrassed? To be such a frickin spectacle with the unnecessary bodyguards, the mulptiple nannies, the cameras in tow, and of course, to be accompanied by their sluttily dressed, overly made up mother? How embarrassing must it be to have such a joke of a mom? Someone so desperate for attention who laughably is trying to be hot stuff? Someone hated by much of America? Someone who is criticized for being a bitch and a horrible parent? Just a thought
Kates a germaphobic my ass, shes a pig with lipstick on. The only one who cleaned the house was either Jon or the cleaning crew. TLC wanted to paste her as a germaphobic and she went along with it. She walked along the NY City streets barefoot and for that she is a pig wearing lipstick.
Now that's how kids are supposed to look!
You can be a germaphobe and still not be rude to the hired help.
Simply saying as he comes in oh do you mind if we putt your toolbox down over here in the laundry room (or wherever that is not going to freak her out about germs), I'm a silly germaphone and I have little quirks like that.
He probably would have laughed it off and it would have been fine.
There are ways to accomplish what Kate wants without being a total bitch about everything.
Somebody, probably Jon, has been brushing the little girls' hair; it looks clean and shiny, not messy and all over their faces, or done up in tortured pony tails.Another contrast..
Great pic, those kids are having fun for a change.
Of interest, perhaps, Jon blocked me on twitter. I said something that hurt his little feelings.
They left with prizes. I hope they keep them at Jon's place because Kate will throw then out.
Personally, I HATE the prizes at these places. CHEAP crap that you pay tons for in the end.
However, they WON it and weren't just handed the prizes, so, I bet they are special. Do they ever get to pick out their toys or does their playing depend on who's sponsoring them that month or wants a toy in the tabloids?
All four of the children's faces we can see have very bright and happy expressions....so are we to believe that at just this right second in time all four of them smiled at the same time? But the rest of the time they were sad and gloomy like how they always look when they're dragged along on filming trips?
Please.
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