Thursday, September 23, 2010

Show cancelled because Jon won't sign new contract, according to sources

Exactly as so many of us have suspected, PerezHilton is reporting that TLC has quietly cancelled Kate Plus 8. Jon, as we suspected, won't sign his children's lives away any longer. Thank you Jon for coming to your senses.

No new filming has taken place this month. No new episodes are scheduled. Kate is on a rampage trashing Jon. Sources are also reporting Kate is beside herself with this real reality.

http://perezhilton.com/2010-09-23-tlc_cancels_kate_gosselin#respond

169 sediments (sic) from readers:

Gosselin Gossip said... 1

Gossip Cop is claiming otherwise, spoke with TLC rep who denies the rumor.

http://www.gossipcop.com/kate-gosselin-show-canceled-cancelled-plus-8-eight-tlc/

Westcoaster said... 2

Finally, maybe - let them film Twist of Kate, let them do whatever they can with her, just leave those kids alone. Of course, we all know, sadly, what rage a scorned narcissist can unleash on those around her. So still, poor kids.

More Original Than Linda said... 3

Hope this is true!

Enjoy your freedom, little Gosselins.
Enjoy (what's left of) your childhood.

Mimi to 3 said... 4

I believe that this is true. Too many things have been happening recently that lead to this conclusion. Who knows for sure? Only time will tell. If it is true she is going apeshit. Couldn't happen to a better (?) person. And I seriously wonder how she will take this out on the kids.

Grammy of nine said... 5

I pray that this is the truth and Jon does not cave, ever.

mr.gh said... 6

Good. Now she can go out there and support the eight children that she was determined to produce. Up til now, they've all been supporting her. It is 2010. Kate Gosselin expects Jon to "work" sans use of the children, so should she. Or is it okay for mommies to milk the kiddy labor cow?

livvy said... 7

Stick to your guns Jon. Your children will thank you.

Unknown said... 8

I hope this is true. It was my understanding that as long as TLC wanted the contract renewed, it would be renewed. Of course, TLC doesn't want the contract renewed any longer. If Jon comes out soon doing some kind of tell-all book or a tv show of his own, then the TLC contract is gone.

I also hope Kate gets a show by herself where she has to leave the kids behind. I think the kids are much better off when she is not around.

Moose Mania said... 9

"Kate is on a rampage trashing Jon."

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Do you have links to the alleged trashing rampage? Is this on the internet, on shows, in the tabs? Do tell!

Anonymous said... 10

So whether or not its true just yet, what is Kate supposed to do for a living? I mean the TLC paychecks are or have stopped rolling in. I don't think she is going to be getting much royalties from her book sells (yeah right). Without her kids on tv, Kate won't need to pay for nannies, assistants, personal representatives, Steve, other bodyguards.

How is she ever going to manage being a single mom when that's all she ever complains about how hard it is in the first place? Rolling my eyes here. But what is really going to happen to her and the kids?!

Anon 1 said... 11

Could I BE any happier??????????? Watch out kids, mom's gonna come unglued!

So, Miss Katie Irene just HAD to get one last public trashing in on her ex, on R&K. Bet she is really angry w/Jon now! What a bitch!!

LisaNH said... 12

I can only hope that Perez's sources are right. I am reserving my glee until it is confirmed by TLC. I don't want to get my hopes up.

GKWay said... 13

My hope of this being 100% true is dashed for now. According to GossipCop, the article from PH is not true.

http://www.gossipcop.com/kate-gosselin-show-canceled-cancelled-plus-8-eight-tlc/

Maybe TLC isn't ready to confirm it yet? Maybe they haven't signed a confidentiality / release agreement with Khate so she can't sue them or something.

PatK said... 14

I really hope this is true! Hallelujah!

Kate will now have to try and come up with some sort of actual talent on her own to continue her lifetstyle.

Michelle said... 15

I so hope this is true. If so, BRAVO JON! And to the Sheeple - now Kate can truly shine on her own as the talented star you see her to be.

Ellie said... 16

gossip cop is saying this isn't true. Perez's source is In Touch magazine. SO BUMMED! Was hoping it was true.

BoyMom said... 17

Why did TLC say that it wasn't though? I'm wondering if they are laying low with filming new material until after these new hearings are over.

NancyB said... 18

http://www.gossipcop.com/kate-gosselin-show-canceled-cancelled-plus-8-eight-tlc/

Maybe Perez is wrong?

Hippie Chick said... 19

If this is true, I am so happy Jon finally manned up!! These kids may get a chance at some normalcy after all. Now, he just needs to get them away from Kate. Yay Jon!!

But I do have to wonder, what did she do when she heard? Did she take it out on the kids? And I hope she doesn't feel the need to go on show after show to display any pity parties. Eff you Kate. We don't need to hear your lies anymore!!

You lose Kate!! Buh-Bye!! *Fingers crossed that it's true!*

fidosmommy said... 20

As much as I would consider this news a very early Holiday gift for us all, I need a little more reliable source than Perez Hilton. I will wait to hear confirmations from other, better sources before I go popping the champagne I've had chilling for awhile now.

wayward said... 21

With or without Jon's consent...really, what kind of future did this show have anyway? The ratings have made it perfectly clear no one wants to see the Gosselins go on another vacation or watch contrived drivel like getting chickens. They could be putting Twist of Kate back on the table, but again, who wants to watch sheeple drool all over Kate? She's the joke of the celebrity world so I don't think she has any prospects there. She always finds a way though.... like an antibiotic-resistant staph infection, she refuses to go away.

Anonymous said... 22

Finally!

TLC's silence is deafening -- and so telling. I hope the info from Perez is correct and that the kids have seen their last TLC camera.

Wishing the kids a future free from paparazzi, producers, prying eyes, and gossip.
Kate, however? I hope she gets everything she deserves. (snark)

Still no Twist of Kate announcement, huh Kate? lol

cathy518 said... 23

So my first impulse is to send Jon flowers but then I remember the sign he posted on the gates of the orphanage about not filming the kids anymore and that he later backed down. I think that TLC strong armed him with the legal threat of a breech of contract suit and bribed him with a pay out if he let the kids film. But I still have hope because I really do believe this man loves his children and that in the end, this will win out.
As for Kate, she can just go to hell. Of course this is why she brought up the issue of financial support on Regis and Kelly! She was trying to convince everyone of the need for her to continue to prostitute the kids because Jon was a deadbeat Dad. Well, here's some reality Kate, we have seen you take gobs of the children's hard earned money and spend it on breast implants, lipo, botox, hair extensions, nails, tans, hooker shoes and outfits and little trips for you and your"bodyguard". Go away Kate, I will be praying that this news is true for the welfare of those children.

Bubbles said... 24

If this is true, Jon, you have DONE THE RIGHT THING. Good for you.

AuntieAnn said... 25

I sure hope this is not just a rumor. Imagine...Kate would have to find gainful employment without putting her kids to work and the G8 might be able to fade into the background and get on with their lives in PRIVATE. I just hope for Kate's sake she's still clipping coupons.

It's enough to make a person giddy.

Must Love Dogs said... 26

Good for Jon!!!!!!! I don't blame him one bit, I am so pleased to hear that he is standing his ground as a parent and not letting this woman call the shots anymore. Filming his kids lives each week with TLC wanting to send his kids all over Gods creation is not a way to raise kids. Let her do her own thing without bringing the kids into it. She has said so many times that she is doing it all by herself, well here ya go Kate Gosselin, no do it without dragging your kids into it. I have so much more respect for Jon right now that I can even put it into words. I also think that Ellen is so good for him and the kids. Go Jon and do what is right for your kids cause you have so many people backing you up and your kids will some day thank you for being the better parent...

Doris said... 27

I hope this is true and not just a rumor! It would be such a wonderful thing for those kids.

I hope it is time for Kate to finally reap the whirlwind of evil she has sowed.

Kk said... 28

Unfortunately - VERY unfortunately - TLC denies this.

Hippie Chick said... 29

This is just funny, it's like I wrote it, all sarcastic, though I would have been more, um, rude. It's old news, but thought I'd share.

http://www.prettyboring.com/?q=node/14061

I'm trying to find out how many issues of People mag. have sold this week so far...Not having much luck...Maybe they don't put out those numbers until the new ones come out? I have heard internet rumors that it's tanked though. Anyone else heard anything?

Bev Okin-Larkin said... 30

Sadly, several sources are trashing Hilton and original publisher of the information. We can only hope it is true.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 31

I'm waiting for TLC to announce that news before I exhale...

God, I hope that for their children's sake it's true. I don't care if Kate's show; "Twist of Kate" takes its place- just as long as the Gosselin 8 have their private lives back.

Melissa said... 32

Thank you, Jon. Thank you!

Laurie said... 33

would that it were true but I read on another site that this was a bogus story and Perez ran with it without checking his facts.

Tucker's Mom said... 34

I've seen posts that refute this, with TLC's saying "Not true!"

Marge said... 35

YAAAAA !!!!! This is too good to be true. For the first time, I actually have respect for Jonathan Keith Gosselin. AWESOME.

Anonymous said... 36

This is NOT true, although I wish it was.
http://www.gossipcop.com/kate-gosselin-show-canceled-cancelled-plus-8-eight-tlc/

Marge said... 37

I NEVER in a MILLION, BILLION, QUADRILLION, GAJILLION years thought that I would say this, but Jon Gosselin is my hero!!!!

Anonymous said... 38

I've been reading about this today.Can it actually be true? If it is, I hope that Jon not only refuses to allow his kids to be exploited by their narcissistic mother, but he takes her to court and sues her for custody. The only time Kate seems to give a dame about those kids is when the camera's are on. Even then she has more melt downs than any of the 8 little Gosselin's. Kate your 15 minutes of fame are up, time to check into the REAL WORLD.

TLC stinks said... 39

I will believe it when I see it. Could just be a ploy by TLC to get in the news. Gossip Cop says Hilton is wrong.

SG said... 40

“Kate Gosselin still has her eight children, but her TV show is history,” declares In Touch.

Wait, what?

Well, according to the tabloid’s alleged “source,” TLC has “quietly canceled” her reality series “Kate Plus 8″ after ex-husband Jon Gosselin supposedly refused to re-sign a contract allowing their children to be filmed.

In Touch seems to be confused, so we’ll help.

Something not happening isn’t the same thing as it “quietly” happening.

Because “Kate Plus 8″ is NOT canceled.

“It’s not true,” Gosselin’s TLC spokesperson tells Gossip Cop.

Just another case of In Touch being out of touch.

http://www.gossipcop.com/kate-gosselin-plus-eight-8-show-canceled-cancelled/

SG said... 41

Maybe it's not "cancelled" but it's just not being filmed because the kids are in school. I think they originally said it was going to be a series of "specials" anyway so technically when the specials were over it wasn't "cancelled."

I think TLC will never call Kate Plus 8 "cancelled" because they are always going to try to continue to film those kids. Even if it's put on hold for years, it won't be considered cancelled... just on hold indefinitely. Maybe?

Jon did say that he is going to stop his children from being filmed so I think that they will not be filming the children again any time soon.

I wonder if they can continue doing a variation of Kate Plus 8 with old footage and never-before-seen-footage, etc.

French Canadian said... 42

Which one is true?

http://www.gossipcop.com/kate-gosselin-plus-eight-8-show-canceled-cancelled/

Well, according to the tabloid’s alleged “source,” TLC has “quietly canceled” her reality series “Kate Plus 8″ after ex-husband Jon Gosselin supposedly refused to re-sign a contract allowing their children to be filmed.

In Touch seems to be confused, so we’ll help.

Something not happening isn’t the same thing as it “quietly” happening.

Because “Kate Plus 8″ is NOT canceled.

“It’s not true,” Gosselin’s TLC spokesperson tells Gossip Cop.

Just another case of In Touch being out of touch.

jibberjabbers said... 43

TLC in the very beginning already stated that Kate Plus 8 would only be a series of "specials" that would air in the summer.

Summer is over, so should be Kate Plus 8.

I suspect the kids to "appear" on Twist of Kate as special guests.

Anonymous said... 44

There is no "Twist of Kate."

silimom said... 45

I don't see Jon refusing to sign, honestly. I'll be pleasantly surprised if he does but I really don't see it happening. Kate would have been on the View or Today lamenting about the bills in her purse if that was the case.

Anon 1 said... 46

JJ, if that's true, that they may appear on Twist of Kate, do you have any thoughts on why are they're promoting it....does anyone really think there IS a TofK?

boo said... 47

I agree with Schmecky. Assuming it's true that Jon won't let them film anymore, TLC isn't "cancelling" the show. It just isn't being filmed. The end result is the same, but it saves face for TLC and for Kate. Who knows, there might also be some sort of contract provision where TLC guaranteed a certain # of episodes and would have to pay Kate if it "cancelled" before that # was filmed. Just a thought.

Anonymous said... 48

The work permits for the children were issued for Kate Plus 8 (for a 6 month period ending around October 22). The production company will need new permits for the children to appear on Twist of Kate or any other show. I wonder how TLC will handle the children appearing on Sarah Palins new show, if the Alaska footage is not used for Kate Plus 8.

Dee said... 49

I don't think there is going to be any "Twist of Kate". I think that is over. I think TLC put that idea out there and did a couple shows but then found that nobody is interested in watching just Kate and that the show didn't actually do well. I also think that with the rating drop on the other show and without her fan support, I don't think they thought it lucrative with all of Kate's demands. The show wouldn't have made them in money in the end. I guess we will see. But I do hope for the kids' sake that it is over for them.

Also I think support for Jon would increase if he is actually not signing the contract and not allowing the kids to film anymore. He would get much more positive attention if that is the case. Go Jon!!

Anonymous said... 50

I agree with Schmecky. Assuming it's true that Jon won't let them film anymore, TLC isn't "cancelling" the show. It just isn't being filmed.
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I agree also. Not renewing a contract is not the same as canceling a show. Although the result is the same.

Remember, it's all doublespeak with TLC/Kate. And I am inclined to believe that the show is done. Would InTouch really report that knowing full well how litigious TLC/Discovery is? I doubt it.

heather

Laurie said... 51

If Jon likely won't allow his kids to renew their contracts with TLC and appear on the show any longer.... When are jon's & the kid's contracts up?

Lauren said... 52

IF this does turn out to be true, I think Jon Gosselin did TLC a HUGE favor by NOT re-upping his contract.

This is an easy way for TLC to cut ties with Kate and move on to other projects.

Karma sure is interesting, isn't it?
Jon and his parental rights have all the power now.

He cut off Kate's show and her income stream. Karma is a bitch, isn't it Kate. It's funny how Jon came out holding all the cards.

I wouldn't count Kate out, she is resourceful and manipulative. She's down but not out - yet.

Gimme Gimme said... 53

That does explain her dredging up the trash talk after not having heard it in a while. The bikini shots sweet revenge - like he cares. I hope he gets more support this time - many people wanted him to that previously and when he did everybody backed down it seems most likely after realizing the extremes they would go to to silence him.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 54

TLC is full of it. Jon refusing to continue the show looks bad, it's bad PR. They want everyone to think that they're not filming because the kids are in school. Nothing like that ever stopped them before I simply don't believe they are now SUDDENLY concerned about the kids' schooling. Give me a break. Jon isn't allowing it and TLC doesn't want anyone to know that.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 55

We've got two gossip sites reporting two different things. I hope it's true that the show is done. This blog has allowed me to collect a few sources of my own and one of them HAS confirmed to me this is true. Everyone is welcome to come to their own conclusions, as for me I more hope it's true and HOPE these sources are right more than anything else.

Anonymous said... 56

Administrator said..
TLC is full of it. Jon refusing to continue the show looks bad, it's bad PR. They want everyone to think that they're not filming because the kids are in school. Nothing like that ever stopped them before I simply don't believe they are now SUDDENLY concerned about the kids' schooling. Give me a break. Jon isn't allowing it and TLC doesn't want anyone to know that.
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I'm not convinced it has anything to do with school. They haven't stated that. I think they realize that the PA is most likely going to establish laws, regs, etc. to protect kids who are filmed in their state. They don't want to be bothered with that. They'd prefer to get the 'green horns' who will let them walk all over them. They have a couple of families now, let's see what happens w/them.

Anonymous said... 57

Anybody believe Kate will just 'walk off into the sunset'? As in, we've heard the end of Kate??? I can't imagine her doing that....

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 58

I agree with what others say, the way Kate and TLC constantly split hairs you have to take a close look at what they say. I'm not trying to be in denial, just pointing this out.

TLC said that's not true. They didn't say the show is going on, they didn't say the next episode is next week, they didn't say we'll be back next summer. Just, that's not true.

So in my estimation, any scenerio in which the show won't continue that isn't exactly what was reported, i.e. Jon refused to sign, would be "not true" to them. For instance if they negotiated out of the contract amicably with him, then yes it's not true Jon refused to sign. Typical TLC, I don't trust them.

Jon hasn't denied it, and he was quick to deny it when Kate trashed him on Regis and Kelly.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 59

I'm not sure that last post completely made sense but I think you get what I mean, lol.

Dee said... 60

If true, this is the best possible news, and Jon deserves huge kudos for having the guts to stand up to what must have been tremendous pressure.

Here's hoping he truly realizes just how important he is to those children, and what a huge force he can be against the railings of their other parent. However imperfect he is, he's a kinder, gentler, far more decent parent than their mother.

It's a whole bunch better to live on spaghetti in a loving household than to be emotionally abused in a mansion.

You've got the power, Jon. Now go and love those kids. They need you a thousand times more than they need a big house and a filming schedule.

As for their mother -- well, she'll find every way she can to leave those kids behind, which, all things considered, is probably the best thing that can happen to them.

K8SUCKS said... 61

Admin-

I got what you were trying to convey. It's all symantics when it comes to TLC/K8. Vague denials, blanket answers.

I am hoping and praying that this is true. Just gotta keep my fingers crossed .....

SG said... 62

I wouldn't put it past TLC to lie about the status of the show just to save face.

livvy said... 63

You hang strong Jon. Protect the 8 and let Kate find her own way to pay for her mani/pedi/tans. You are doing the right thing and they will thank you for it. Life has a way of working it self out.

Moose Mania said... 64

She always finds a way though.... like an antibiotic-resistant staph infection, she refuses to go away.

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...kind of like that dreaded flesh-eating bacteria.

Would this all be a matter of semantics? Has TLC issued any kind of official denial so we could take a look at their wording? They are pretty sneaky...

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 65

Sorry TLC I think folks here are calling a duck a duck.

When will they be filming next? When does the next episode air? Why no on the next Kate Plus 8? How are they going to get around Jon saying on the radio he is done and won't let his kids do this anymore? They are actually his kids hard to imagine but they are, he can stop it if he wants to. Have they filed to renew their permits? What about the bad press from the child labor hearings?

There's just too many unanswered questions to believe this show is going on. They are hoping to "quietly" let it go that is crystal clear in my opinion.

a supporter of this site & a lurker said... 66

I watched this show when the kids were toddlers.
Was totally unaware of the impact on the children as they grew. I see the light and I wonder how many disturbed adults will come out of the group as they mature. Very sad. If the show does get cancelled (and I am hoping it does) Kate Gosselin will have a chance to actually prove to the world how she is"a single Mother and provides for her children", as she spouts to anyone who will listen. I have been waiting for the last couple of years to see her support the kids. As far as I can tell, without those 8 on the TV, nobody gives a rat's ass about Kate. As far as I can tell, I don't see "the view" having her back to whine about Jon. I think Whoopi, Joy and Barbara all have her number and are done with it.

Dee said... 67

IMO, TLC seems real quiet on the subject and has not offered any more information on either Kate Plus 8 or TWist of Kate coming in future episodes. This would make sense with Kate bashing Jon awhile back and the fact she has not looked too happy yesterday when with the twins. Something is happening and I can't wait to see what unveils. I hope to see some Karma in action!

Kate Plus 8 disappears said... 68

Maybe Kate Plus 8 will disappear into the oblivion like Table for 12.

(Pardon any inaccuracies.)
At the end of season 2, TLC announced that a new season of the Hayes family would return in the spring.

Spring arrives and there is one special, "First Ski Trip" which barely got any promotion. No mention of the new season.

TLC Summer rolls out and the only mention of Table for 12 was in the TLC discussion board saying to check out the Summer photos, they'll return this summer. Sure enough, the Hayes family appeared for the TLC Summer photo-ops yet no mention of when the new season would premiere.

Mid-summer, another special "Hayes Get a Puppy" premieres, again without any promotion. No mention of a new season.

Sometime ago, TLC removed Table for 12 from their main listing. There has been no official response from TLC or the Hayes about whether the show will continue.

Recently, Kate's blog hasn't been updated since the Emmys (with that ridiculous image of Kate on stage). The Kate Plus 8 site also hasn't been updated with new webisodes and photos of the last two episodes (even though someone was able to locate "A Rough Ride" photos, just not officially posted).

The "School Time" episode looked like a season/series finale with an homage to the sextuplets at the end. It seemed fitting to just end the series there, with Kate's final words, "They're school kids". Period.

TLC could possibly do the same thing to Kate Plus 8. I just doubt Kate would go down quietly; she'll probably get over-dramatic about it and complain to mass media. Sigh.

LisaNH said... 69

I'd really like it to be true, but we've all been yanked around by the press as far as this dizzy broad goes. It just never ends. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if TLC let it "leak" that the show was cancelled to get more attention and then they can say "Well there was such a huge fan outcry over it being cancelled we've decided to do one more season." Of course I'm not sure where those fans would come from since I Kate only has about 5 left in the country LOL.

Anonymous said... 70

If Jon is not allowing his children to continue filming or if TLC discontinued the show, Jon should get everything in writing regarding any unused footage (i.e., Alaska trip) and TLC not holding him accountable for his childrens voiceovers or couch interviews not being filmed or aired. Discovery is suing the fishermen for $3million for incomplete episodes and loss of advertising money.

Anonymous said... 71

Any truth to the rumor that Kate is joining the cast of Sister Wives on TLC?

Anonymous said... 72

tj said...

I hope this is true. It was my understanding that as long as TLC wanted the contract renewed, it would be renewed. Of course, TLC doesn't want the contract renewed any longer. If Jon comes out soon doing some kind of tell-all book or a tv show of his own, then the TLC contract is gone.

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Sorry if this sounds dense, but what would've happened if TLC wanted the contract renewed, and Jon didn't?

Denise said... 73

Any truth to the rumor that Kate is joining the cast of Sister Wives on TLC?

That guy is crazy but not THAT crazy!!!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 74

What's interesting about cable shows is they do seem to just quietly disappear without explanation. Whereas a network show it always has to be a huge ordeal with series finales, fans outraged, and so on. You can't sneak by cancelling a network show at least not one that's been on more than a season or two.

SoCalRosie said... 75

I sat here and thought one more 30 minute epi, as a finale to the series, to actually see photos of the kids as they grew up and maybe snipets of episodes showing some of the cuter things and then thought WAIT! no such luck, I could not think of an episode where Kate did not berate at least one of her kids if not 2 or 3 of them and won't go there on how she treated Jon. Hoping against hope that TLC is saying that it isn't so because they wanted to be the ones to announce it and not a gossip site. funny how it came out today, the day of the hearing!

Anonymous said... 76

Another site pointing that Kate Plus 8 was only a "summer special".. SUMMER IS OVER!

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Kate Plus 8 will actually be a series of specials aired on TLC over the course of the summer, and will have the same theme of the now-canceled Jon & Kate Plus 8, but with one big difference --no Jon!

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/05/photos-kate-gosselin-films-new-show-kate-plus-8

Anon 1 said... 77

More Original Than Linda said... Hope this is true!

Enjoy your freedom, little Gosselins.
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LMAO, LOVE the name!

Bah Bah Blackie said... 78

So...are the sheeple pulling their wool out right now??!!

Markiesnana said... 79

I equate this with the "leaks" that are purposely let out whenever there is a drastic change coming. Big companies leak ending info sometimes before they actually end the jobs of employees. I see this the same way.
First the leak is out, with a lot of rumbling about whether it's a rumor or not.
People start getting used to the possibility.
Then it actually does happen.
I am still predicting that her next desperate act will be taking her clothes off for some publication.
Then, some mental health issues will take center stage in the news.

mama mia said... 80

This is one of the contract clauses the American Idol (reality tv) contestants have to sign:
"further understand that my appearance, depiction and/or portrayal in the Program may be disparaging, defamatory, embarrassing, or of an otherwise unfavorable nature which may expose me to public ridicule, humiliation or condemnation."
So to all the sheeple out there ridiculing Jon about not getting a job, here is your answer for why he has no response. TLC exercised their option to defame, ridicule, humiliate and condemn him.

Gosselin8ComeFirst said... 81

I think the reason why TLC is not confirming the rumor is they are hoping they can get Jon to cave, as they did last time. I do believe that TLC will go full tilt in trying to pressure him into signing the contract. But in the meantime, as far as they are concerned, the show is not cancelled until they complete all of their pressure tactics on Jon. And if he still refuses, then they will come out with the announcement that the show is cancelled.

It kind of all adds up now - the constant taping over the last few weeks of the summer and Kate's claims on R & K.

I would not want to be those kids living with K8 right now. She is probably 10 times worse than usual.

cathy518 said... 82

Not with a bang but a whimper? Maybe the strategy is to let Kate and the 8 fade away rather than cancel them. This way TLC does not rule out future filming if the situation changes and Jon can be "persuaded" to go along. The real question for me is what happens with Kate, the star now? It is time for her to stand on her own two feet and get Twist of Kate going? Wasn't this the original plan, film the kids during the summer and then spin off kate into her own show? So this is where the fun begins, I think. It is finally time to see just how much interest there is in this woman WITHOUT those children.

Gimme Gimme said... 83

Maybe TLC is cancelling the show because a high budget show like that needs more than a million viewers half of whom are appalled and documenting abuse and what adv. they don't want to support. Maybe they are going to blame it on Jon instead of admitting that their cash cow ran dry because Khate can't keep her clothes on and be a good enough mother.

Wryview said... 84

I hope this is true. And good for Jon if it is.

Just because TLC says it isn't true, doesn't mean it isn't. How many times does a big company deny something because they want to be the ones to make the announcement? Heck - look at the Eagles quarterback situation. How many days did Andy Reid say that Kevin K. was going to be the quarterback; insisted that was the case?... then....BLAM....it's Michael Vick.

sftk said... 85

Hope it is true, but bet Kate will not go down without a fight. I believe she holds TLC as hostages by making them believe she cannot raise the children without being on the payroll. Here is a novel thought Kate, downsize, public schools, Target wardrobes (for all including herself), non-designer shoes, trips to the spa, hair extensions, lawn and pool maintaince people,nannies, household help-you get the picture, in other words do what millions of others do, large or small families, and get by on a lot less. get a job and hopefully Jon continues to continue child support. Plus the fact is, the kids have earned millions of dollars and if invested wisely their future would be secure. I am guessing, most of the money is gone, starting with the big McMansion and lifestyle of the rich and famous mother.

dee3 said... 86

I tend to believe that this is true....and that the show is being canceled....no matter how TLC decides to parse/word it. The underlying info is true, IMO.

And I think this because in the past, TLC would have had no problem strong-arming Jon into signing to allow the children on the show....with threats of legal action, threats to ruin him, etc. Why are they suddenly allowing Jon to do this? They suddenly care about what the parent thinks or wants? How convenient.....just when the show began to slide downhill in the ratings.

I also think that the Markiesnana makes a great point....that this is how these things go down in the corporate world. A rumor is leaked, denied, leaked again....on and on...until it is finally verified.

I think they see that they are gonna have to unload the show soon....and have some handy reasons to explain this....like Jon not signing, etc. When did TLC allow a little thing like Jon not wanting to sign stop them?

Barbra said... 87

TLC is known for talking out of all sides of their mouth (usually at the same time spewing different stories). When it concerns HER and TLC, why would we believe ANYTHING either of them says? TLC IS the lying channel and SHE wouldn't know the truth if it was the ONLY version available. As for whether the show should stop or not, here are a couple of comments, you decide which way MY thoughts are going.
1. IF SHE is allowed to exploit THEIR kids, in fairness their father should be entitled (one of HER favorite words) to the same chance to fill HIS bank accounts. HOWEVER, NO ONE should be allowed to exploit kids, being a parent is a biological (OR manufactured)privilege but that does NOT give a parent the right to USE a child.
3. The shows have been remade reruns and the characters are no longer interesting.
Would love to continue but I have to run in to pick up a sick grandchild so that her father and sister can work on getting them moved tomorrow (and there will be NO putting her on the floor next to my washer/dryer while she's puking, she'll be propped up on 9000 pillows under my comforter in my bed).
2.

Hippie Chick said... 88

http://www.comcast.net/video/-kate-plus-8-getting-the-ax-/1598564561/Comcast/1598872265/

Why would TLC say not true? Dunno.

PKinNJ said... 89

Marie asked upthread what Kate would do to support the kids? Simple, downsize the over-the-top lifestyle and live like normal people. Both of them need to get jobs and they'd make it just fine just like every other large family in the US. My mom was a stay-at-home mom and my dad was a preacher and they raised 7 kids - not all the same age, but were were boom, boom, boom one right after the other. We made it just fine and are all productive members of society. Maybe everything was not served to us on a golden platter, but we had what we needed. J&K will do just fine IF they go back to being "normal".

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 90

According to that video Jon is saying NO COMMENT. I bet that's because TLC told him to shut up while they try to strong arm him into signing.

If it weren't true why wouldn't Jon just say it's not true? He had no problem saying that Kate's lies on Regis last week weren't true.

A duck is a duck.

jessica said... 91

IMO -here's hoping Jon's family and Ellen got through to him and he follows through with what he said on the radio and not sign any future contracts for his children,

here's hoping Steve Nield's wife went to Europe with him and reminded him, they have two sons of their own to raise and protect and being a father and a professional does NOT mean guarding Kate Gosselin on her tacked on mini-vacations from her photo shoot, innocent or not - doesn't it jeopardize his personal and professional integrity?

here's hoping the new custody hearing allows Jon and his family to be with the children more, alot more and that they require
these children get psychological help to deal with what they've been through - you know the help Kate said she was getting them and then proceeded to travel around with Steve and left the children with the nannies to deal with the loss of their father through the divorce

here's hoping the papparazzi errr -- Chris finds
more meaninful work

here's hoping the young fans of the show aim higher for those they wish to emulate and for the older fans who should know better but are worried Kate won't be able to support herself, each year the combined 1.6 million of them that enjoy watching children's most personal moments as entertainment, can send her $1 so she can continue to "do it all for the kids"

here's hoping the relatives actually listen to the sermons especially the just finished series Jesus Loves you - everyone else thinks you're a jerk and realize maybe there is a message missed like HELP YOUR NIECES AND NEPHEWS!!! not maybe I can sell a cookbook to the sheeple on facebook! not maybe I'm a great Christian because I say I love haters-- really?!? Is a little meditation and self examination in order here? but I digress

here's hoping Kate no longer bashes Jon in public and vice versa, personally I hope Jon tables the tell all book - I'd be more than happy to send him $1 a year along with oh let's say 1.599 million others in order for him to have the money to do the right thing

The tide is turning for Jon, he can take hold of this as an opportunity to truly get his life back or he can sink to the depths of continuing the drama and each parent can win a battle or two all while the children lose the war.

As previously stated at the hearing yesterday, the adult parent can choose to sell their own dignity on national television, they shouldn't have parental rights to make that choice on behalf of their children. Don't misunderstand, parents should have a slew of rights when it involves their children, but in Pennsylvania there is no advocate requirement to keep those parents in check when the perfume of money invades their sensibilities.

Mimi to 3 said... 92

Who knew Jon would wind up being the thorn in the witches side that she can not bully into line? Actually, this is fantastic when you think about it. The one person she has treated like sh** in front of our eyes for the entirety of this series, the one she has berated and lied about on TV, is the very one who holds the keys to her entitled diva status. He is and forever will be their father. As such, he has as much say in what happens with them as she does. She can't change that. And since she no longer lives with him or controls him, she never knows when he just might yank her chain. Personally, I think this is better than anything else. She sooooo deserves to be treated exactly the way she treats the rest of the world and Jon is the one who can do it to her and there is nothing she can do. Beautiful. Sure she can go on all the TV shows and spew her hatred and lies about him, but he can quietly go along behind her and clip her wings. Just beautiful.

Hippie Chick said... 93

I read yesterday that 4 million viewers for cable shows are good numbers. Kate only got 1.6? That's awful. Maybe this is why TLC is letting it's Queen go. 1.6 million viewers is actually pretty bad apparently?

And about Twist of Kate. The Alaska footage was filmed for Sarah Palin's show. I read it in Entertainment Weekly. It wasn't online, it was in the actual magazine, so I can't pull it up. I know they filmed with the kids too, so I'm assuming the kids will be on Sarah Palin's/Twist of Kate show. It's a crossover thing. According to EW, it's a go, as of their presstime for that particular issue, which was the Fall preview (no big write up about her show at ALL, just one tiny sentence in the Sarah Palin blurb). It may have been canceled in the interim. I'm thinking since there has been ZERO talk about it, it's a no-go? You would think there would be some promotion, but why would EW talk about it? If this was my show, I would be promoting the hell out of it. But then again, Kate is as dumb as a bag of bricks...all she wanted to do was trash-talk her ex.

Denise said... 94

TLC is probably afraid to tell Kate.

Kk said... 95

I think TLC/ and Kate/ and Jon have this all figured out, and we're falling for all of it. TLC did not get where they are by displaying all their cards at the table. Kate did not get where she is by, well, NOT by any normal means, that's for sure. Jon just seems to plod along, REacting instead of taking charge.

I think it will play out this way: Kate will "decide" she no longer needs the children to make her living for her and will come up with something (either Twisted or not). TLC will say they have nothing but the utmost respect for Kate, blah blah blah, and wish her the best (either with a new show with them, or elsewhere), and she can finally sink or swim on her own. Jon will look like a frigging hero just by keeping his mouth shut. Everyone wins, but most importantly, the children win.

Don't believe any of this was not planned - ALL of them will spin it so they EACH look somehow a winner.

Anonymous said... 96

While this is good news for the kids, I don't think Jon's motives really have too much to do with the kids. This is about Jon getting back at Kate,

CR said... 97

IMO, technically TLC did not lie about the show being canceled. Work permits for the kids were only valid until October. Their (the family) contract for the K+8 shows probably was written for X amount of episodes, or starting with the tups birthday and finishing with the back to school epi. I think they filmed the number of summer specials that were planned. TLC fulfilled their part of the contract. They did not cancel, but no new contract or work permits have been written. Not canceled, just not renewed YET and maybe never.

Someone upthread mentioned that Kate would be broke if the show was canceled. I don't think so. Remember when they were going through the divorce it was reported that she had money in multiple accounts. Also when the tups were born or within the first year, she was crying poor and it was later reported they had money in the bank that Jon's father had given them (or Jon had inherited from his father). I think she has thousands of dollars stuffed away. But, that is HER !!! money and she is not about to spend it on mundane things like housing, upkeep, food, education for the kids, etc.

Several days ago someone mentioned about the kids paying taxes on their income and that they would not get a dependancy allowance. Absolutely! If they have income from employment and/ or investment income, meet the income requirements, they will be filing. They cannot claim their own dependant exemption because they are dependants (one body cannot be claimed twice). Also, they will probably be filing at their mother's tax rate. Sorry, kids you got screwed again. Here's an easy to understand explanation:
http://kidmoney.about.com/od/savingmoney/p/kidstaxes.htm

Moose Mania said... 98

I read yesterday that 4 million viewers for cable shows are good numbers. Kate only got 1.6? That's awful. Maybe this is why TLC is letting it's Queen go. 1.6 million viewers is actually pretty bad apparently?

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Four million is acceptable for a network. 1.6 is very good for a cable channel, such as TLC. The Duggars came in at 1.3, along with the Roloffs. Five of the shows that were renewed (according to tvbythenumbers) averaged 1.1 to 1.4 million, which is very good and which is why they were renewed.

PatE said... 99

Barbara and Jessica, great comments. Admin, too.

.....but oh my god!!! WHO is going to pay for Steve's "services".

Can't wait for that announcement.

Kate is a cliché, the affair with the bodyguard, the blond hair, the hooker drab, the boobs, the facefiller, botox, living off of her children, playing the Shrew, the new money lifestyle,....ugh, good riddance.

Anonymous said... 100

When you look at this whole scenario, Kate, as usual was/is her own undoing. For whatever reason, she has an air of entitlement, she is a snob, and is detached from everyone, maybe w/the exception of Steve. Unfortunately unless TLC is planning on paying for him to stay around, which I hightly doubt, she has no one, maybe Jamie. Had she been able to 'play' nice, she could have possibly come out of this w/some role on TV, maybe guest hosting The View, correspondent for ET, etc. She just doesn't have 'it' and I'm sure she believed shows, celebs, people would be beating down her door to get HER on their show, but apparently that isn't the case, huh Katie?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 101

If it were a series of summer specials why doesn't TLC just say it was a series of summer specials and we're on hiatus now. We'll be back for such and such season...Spring, next summer, whatever. That would shut people up. Instead they just say, that's not true.

Also what happened to Kate and the kids' cut of the $200 million TLC made? Kate is still crying poor. Someone has some explaining to do, and it's not the kids.

Pamelalalala said... 102

TLC can give Kate a new contract ( if the current one is up ), and there still be no show. They would just have to keep paying her whether there is a show or not, and she would have to remain available only to them. I think TLC is afraid of letting her go and another network snatching her up. Granted, I doubt they would pay her $250,000 without a show, but maybe something like ( just guessing ) $5,000-$10,000 per month until they decide to film her again. She technically can remain their employee without actually having to do anything, as long as they ( TLC ) still get to control her "career" and she would still need their permission to do other tv projects.

SG said... 103

Admin,

What do you know about the two different bills that were brought up in the hearing? There were two: HB 19 and HB 2515. (I posted the link here yesterday but it was too long to post all of it.)

It seems to me that it's possible that O'Brien's bill could be even better than Murt's. The laws he's proposing seem less lenient than Murt's. It doesn't matter to me which bill becomes a law or who presented it. However, I do wonder if there are other proposals in the HB 19 that are negative and just weren't mentioned or specified.

Would you consider doing a comparison of each? I was going to do it myself but it gave me a headache. ;)

SG said... 104

Pamelalalalalalalala,

Yes, that's a thought! And I think it would be great as long as the kids weren't filming. I don't care what Kate does on her own. I won't "support" whatever she actually does by watching it but I do support her having the option to do it as long as she doesn't leave the kids in the care of nannies when they could be with their father.

JudyK said... 105

It's being reported on another site that Steve has taken his wife to Europe for a vacation, because she demanded it due to the Kate controversy. (Probably why Kate was on the phone the entire time her twins were shopping. She's beyond transparent.) Also being reported that Kate is lost without him and in a bad mood. Maybe that's why she had a lookalike nanny pick the kids up from school yesterday (even wearing her hair like Kate). From a distance, it looked like Kate. Kate is a liar, manipulator, poser, and imposter, and those are her good qualities.

Virginia Pen Mom said... 106

Kate's sister's and mom's Facebook page, "I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life!" disappeared a few weeks ago. At least, I can't find it any more. Do you suppose that had something to do with a cancellation? It had only a few fans--about 200, if I remember correctly.

Kate's "own" (she claims) Facebook page, "Friends of Kate Gosselin," hasn't had a status update since Sept. 2. And on Sept. 13, "Kate" last responded to a comment. Someone asked if this was really Kate? And "Kate" responded [sic]: "This really me. I create this. Thanks" ?? English as a second language?

By the way, that page has only *40* fans.

So about the time the Kreiders' page disappeared, Kate (or TLC intern) stopped updating Kate's page, for what it's worth.

Jill P. said... 107

Schmecky Girl said: "What do you know about the two different bills that were brought up in the hearing? There were two: HB 19 and HB 2515. (I posted the link here yesterday but it was too long to post all of it.)

It seems to me that it's possible that O'Brien's bill could be even better than Murt's. The laws he's proposing seem less lenient than Murt's. It doesn't matter to me which bill becomes a law or who presented it. However, I do wonder if there are other proposals in the HB 19 that are negative and just weren't mentioned or specified.

Would you consider doing a comparison of each? I was going to do it myself but it gave me a headache. ;)"

Oh, yes, please! That would be really useful! Both bills seem to have strengths and weaknesses. I'm not a lawyer, and legal language gives me headaches too.

Looking at the DOLI's testimony there do seem to be gaps in Murt's bill -- in fact #19 seems even more restrictive regarding hours worked. OTOH, #19 leaves out the set "teacher/advocate" which I think is vitally important to reality show kids who are subjected to many hours of filming. However, it is probably not important if little "Mary" is filming a single commercial. That language needs clarification.

All legislative change takes months (and should take months) to get absolutely right. A misplaced comma or a clumsy sentence can totally change the meaning. The purpose of hearings is to identify weak spots and develop precise language that shores up the intent of any legislation.

I hope PA does take a bipartisan approach on this and a bill is passed soon.

Sienna said... 108

Now or in 2 years or unfortunately in 5 maybe, it will be gone someday, I doubt very much they will ever say the word CANCELLED... that would be bad for them, but I seriously think that Kate needs to get mentally prepared for that day.
She whinned so damn much about how quickly they grew up and went to school, she better get ready to wean herself from her cushy paycheck of doing NOTHING all day.

Sienna said... 109

Pamelalalala, you mean like a retainer? Yeah I would think it would be viable, and also smart to keep her from spilling the beans on certain things and work for other corporations. Very bright.

Virginia Pen Mom said... 110

JudyK said:

"It's being reported on another site that Steve has taken his wife to Europe for a vacation, because she demanded it due to the Kate controversy. (Probably why Kate was on the phone the entire time her twins were shopping....")

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It seems to me that when Kate's with Steve, you see a lot less of that phone to her ear. I could be mistaken, but I don't recall seeing her on the phone in Cabo.

silimom said... 111

Isn't there someone here who tweets with Jon and Ellen regularly? If you're reading this, why not go to the horses mouth and ask Ellen what's going on? Just a thought.

Jennifer said... 112

VA Pen Mom,

The page is still there: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Im-Voting-for-Kate-Gosselin-in-Life/115097268513089?ref=ts

Bonafide Nutcase said... 113

JudyK said...Maybe that's why she had a lookalike nanny pick the kids up from school yesterday (even wearing her hair like Kate). From a distance, it looked like Kate.


Have you got a link? I'd love to see that.

PatE said... 114

Lopve the comments coming out on the latest news:

Lisa D. says:
September 22, 2010 at 12:18 pm

In the interest of truth, John, kates brother kevin and sister in law jodi all say in october of 2OO9, just before the move, John had been sleeping on the mattress in the basement while kate traveled all over the country, first class for her book, accompanied by Steve the “bodyguard”. In oct. she told him he would live over the garage at the new house, the master bdrm was only hers and he could date but not divorce because of the “brand” …Then, SHE divorced Him, and threw him out and kept everything. He tried to get the kids because she is so selfish, has been caught drinking wine ALOT by the help and hitting the kids to make them “work”, which John kevin and jodi really hated. He cannot get work or tlc will take him to court for breach of contract…they have destroyed this good dad whom the kids love and prefer.
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lukebandit says:
September 22, 2010 at 6:57 pm
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p.s. FACT: Kate went to jon and told him it was over and forced him to sign the non disclosure agreement, have all the GF’s you want just show up for filming to keep the lie going. kate had somebody, jon was suspicious and wanted to go marriage counseling and she refused unless it was dr. phil. she is crazy and the children had no life jackets on the boat. who takes many children out 25 miles out on the ocean and not make sure they had life jackets on. that captain needs his boat charter license taken away and shoved down his throat!

http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/kate-gosselin-has-great-abs/

Hippie Chick said... 115

This is the top 25 Cable shows for the week of Sept. 14. When I wrote earlier that I read that 4 million is good for viewers on a cable network, I wasn't dreaming! Granted, 25th place has 2.4 mil. viewers, but the top rated show on a cable network has 6.2 mil.! Remember when J&K announced the divorce? 10+ mil. viewers? Lighting in a bottle will not happen twice. This is what I think TLC is trying to do. Turning Kate into a tramp, putting her out there with a married man, showing her be awful to her kids, etc. People will tune in to a trainwreck.

My point is, that I honestly do not think that 1.6 mil. is not high, even for cable. I am trying to find that article, but it's nowhere to be found. Kate's old news, her ratings are horrible, and they SHOULD let her go. Sarah Palin will be the new queen. Kate must be seething.

DLCF said... 116

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/09/the-gosselin-kids-get-picked-up-by-the-nanny.html

So we've had the People cover debacle and the Cabo trip and VomitFest 2010. Wonder what she's up to now?

I still vote either rehab or exhaustion.

Hippie Chick said... 117

I tweet w/ Jon & Ellen, but I never cross the line w/ them. (PS Admin, sorry I have posted so much today). Usually, I do short, curt, tweets & sometimes I'll get a response, and other times I won't. It depends on what I say. When Kate went on R&K, I tweeted about her lying and said Stay strong Jon, you have supporters! Then I said, I love this fall weather. He said Thanks and said something about the weather too.

I haven't tweeted him in awhile, & don't know what to say about this. He wouldn't say anything. It's confidential. I'll try though!

SG said... 118

I looked at the pics at infdaily.com that someone mentioned about the nanny with the kids at the bus stop and when reading the article something made sense that I had never heard mentioned before. It read:

"Last year Jon did try to prevent the kids from being filmed, which would have resulted in the show’s cancellation. However a judge ruled against him, and like we said it was a long time ago."

So from that sentence it appears that Jon did try to stop his children from continued filming, TLC took him to court and a judge ruled against him.

As much as I want to yell and scream at Jon that they are his kids and he should do whatever it takes for them to not be filmed, how can he really go against a judge's ruling?

Hopefully it is true that there is no longer a Kate Plus 8 or that at least it's on hold indefinitely.

http://www.infdaily.com/2010/09/the-gosselin-kids-get-picked-up-by-the-nanny.html

Midnight Madness said... 119

It seems to me that when Kate's with Steve, you see a lot less of that phone to her ear. I could be mistaken, but I don't recall seeing her on the phone in Cabo.

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She uses the phone as a prop when she knows she's being photographed so that she won't have to answer any questions. In Cabo, I think those were all candid photos -- she didn't know she was being photographed, and we really didn't see that many pictures to make a judgment about whether or not she was on the phone constantly.

Denise said... 120

Have you got a link? I'd love to see that.
http://www.infdaily.com/2010/09/the-gosselin-kids-get-picked-up-by-the-nanny.html

Midnight Madness said... 121

I haven't tweeted him in awhile, & don't know what to say about this. He wouldn't say anything. It's confidential. I'll try though!

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Jon's not saying anything because he chooses the "no comment" route. Good for him. If he wants to make a statement, or if he thinks that any of this is our business, I'm sure he would make it public. I certainly wouldn't bother him with this.

Midnight Madness said... 122

I haven't tweeted him in awhile, & don't know what to say about this. He wouldn't say anything. It's confidential. I'll try though!

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Jon's not saying anything because he chooses the "no comment" route. Good for him. If he wants to make a statement, or if he thinks that any of this is our business, I'm sure he would make it public. I certainly wouldn't bother him with this.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said... 123

No, the media has it wrong again. A judge did not rule AGAINST Jon in stopping his children being filmed. A judge made a TEMPORARY order he was not to perform any outside work other than for TLC pending the outcome of the decision. These temporary injunctions are made all the time as a temporary measure until the case can be litigated.

The matter was SETTLED outside a court, and Jon allowed the kids to be filmed per the settlement. A judge has NEVER ORDERED THE KIDS ARE TO BE FILMED. A judge probably never WOULD given the bad publicity.

JudyK said... 124

Bonafide Nutcase...Sorry I didn't get the link to you--have been away from the computer. Thanks to those who provided it. The juicy story is on Celebitchy. (Think you need to go to Page 2 to see it...Kate become irrelevant very quickly on that site.)

TLC ship is sinking said... 125

Hippie Chick said...[Cable Top 25] When I wrote earlier that I read that 4 million is good for viewers on a cable network, I wasn't dreaming! Granted, 25th place has 2.4 mil. viewers, but the top rated show on a cable network has 6.2 mil.!
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I agree with you that 4+ million viewers is good ratings compared to 1.6 million.

As much as any broadcast or cable network wants to put out shows with good ratings, cable works differently because you're targeting your niche group of viewers (as opposed to broadcast networks pitting their best shows against each other hoping to draw the bigger audience). Cable networks attempt to pull-out quality shows that attract those specific groups (more interest level, not just targeted age group). However, that is starting to change as cable quality programming went up and broadcast quality went stagnant. Broadcast appears to be righting the ship with less reality tv shows, more scripted shows.

As far as the Cable Top 25, many shows continue to be renewed without necessarily making the list. It doesn't play a large factor in canceling programs (unlike broadcast) because again cable networks target their niche group. Is it fair to say Kate Plus 8 gets canceled because it was beaten by Spongebob? (Although it would be hilarious!) Again, two separate niche audiences.


My point is, that I honestly do not think that 1.6 mil. is not high, even for cable.
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1.6 million isn't high. Look at the CW which core shows are struggling to gain an audience. After premiere week, people were already assuming that 90210 and Gossip Girl would get the axe due to low ratings.

With the exception of Kate Plus 8's exorbitant budget vs ratings, TLC is pretty happy with its current line-up of shows as some were just renewed averaging 1.1 - 1.4 million viewers. If TLC boasts about having the most programming with 1.1+ million viewers, their expectations are low. For TLC, it's quantity not quality (quantity of exploitation, forget quality programming).

If you want to see the average ratings for TLC Summer shows, check out this media release via TLC.
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/09/15/tlc-bests-the-competition-with-the-most-new-and-returning-hit-series-in-summer-2010/63594

Many of TLC's so-called hits wouldn't be renewed based on your statement: 19 Kids, The Little Couple, Cake Boss (1.8 million).

Gosselin Gossip said... 126

Was this rumor (until factual proof is shown) implanted by TLC?

I'm questioning this now because it came out while there was a hearing regarding "Gosselin Law". I'm having a hard time finding media articles/coverage about the hearing (other than some Gosselin blogs), yet I see some media pick-up on this "cancellation" rumor.

Take the emphasis off the real issue at stake and focus it again on Kate. Typical TLC/Kate PR tactic.

Virginia Pen Mom said... 127

"She uses the phone as a prop when she knows she's being photographed so that she won't have to answer any questions. In Cabo, I think those were all candid photos -- she didn't know she was being photographed, and we really didn't see that many pictures to make a judgment about whether or not she was on the phone constantly."

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I agree she may use the phone as a prop--but I still say, typically not when she's with Steve. Cabo might have been a poor example. I agree there weren't that many shots. But I googled "Gosselin""Neild" in an image search and scrolled through a few pages. Not a single shot of Kate with Steve and a phone to her ear. Maybe she fakes it for the paparazzi, except when Steve's there because she feels safer with him. I don't know. It's just an observation.

Merette said... 128

Virginia Pen Mom said... Kate's sister's and mom's Facebook page, "I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life!" disappeared a few weeks ago. At least, I can't find it any more. Do you suppose that had something to do with a cancellation? It had only a few fans--about 200, if I remember correctly.
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The FB page was still up today - I just saw it about an hour ago. The last entry was made by Charlene Kreider to remind people to watch the show on Monday night, 9/20. Now I think I get the reason for those two dolts starting that page. They may have known the end was near and maybe TLC paid them to create it. JMO.

fidosmommy said... 129

It seems to me that when Kate's with Steve, you see a lot less of that phone to her ear. I could be mistaken, but I don't recall seeing her on the phone in Cabo.

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Kate's phone contract may not include international. It costs more, and you just know that would cut into her bikini budget.

JudyK said... 130

fidosmommy said... It seems to me that when Kate's with Steve, you see a lot less of that phone to her ear. I could be mistaken, but I don't recall seeing her on the phone in Cabo.

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Kate's phone contract may not include international. It costs more, and you just know that would cut into her bikini budget.
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Going to bed laughing out loud! You guys are the best ~ and brightest!

Midnight Madness said... 131

Isn't it also possible that when she's NOT with Steve, and she's with the kids or with Jamie, that the reason she's on the phone so much is that she's talking to Steve? When she's with him, she doesn't need to call him! ;-)

Anonymous said... 132

Maybe Kate Plus 8 will come back next summer as another "series of specials"?

Since it's now FALL and the kids are all in school full-time, TLC will wait til next summer to start filming for Kate Plus 8 once again.

Moose Mania said... 133

Since it's now FALL and the kids are all in school full-time, TLC will wait til next summer to start filming for Kate Plus 8 once again.

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Is this opinion, or has it been confirmed? Do we know that they won't film a holiday "special" (either over Thanksgiving or winter break), or film them over the two-week spring break?

Anonymous said... 134

Hippie Chick said...
And about Twist of Kate. The Alaska footage was filmed for Sarah Palin's show. I read it in Entertainment Weekly. It wasn't online, it was in the actual magazine, so I can't pull it up. I know they filmed with the kids too, so I'm assuming the kids will be on Sarah Palin's/Twist of Kate show. It's a crossover thing. According to EW, it's a go, as of their presstime for that particular issue, which was the Fall preview (no big write up about her show at ALL, just one tiny sentence in the Sarah Palin blurb). It may have been canceled in the interim. I'm thinking since there has been ZERO talk about it, it's a no-go? You would think there would be some promotion, but why would EW talk about it?


Hippie Chick,
TLC originally planned to use the Alaska footage for Kate+8 AND a crossover for Palin's Alaska, but because of the problems Kate caused on location they didn't get enough good footage so they scrapped the crossover idea and decided to use it for just Palin's Alaska. Palin's Alaska IS scheduled to premiere November 14 at 9pm. I'd imagine we'll start seeing promos for it sometime next month.

Administrator said...
If it were a series of summer specials why doesn't TLC just say it was a series of summer specials and we're on hiatus now. We'll be back for such and such season...Spring, next summer, whatever. That would shut people up. Instead they just say, that's not true.


TLC execs are probably sitting in their plush office space laughing and saying 'we already told them the show was just a series of specials' last spring.
If they issued a statement about their plans for Kate+8 we wouldn't be speculating about their cryptic reply - and our speculating is keeping Kate+8 alive and in the media.

Gimme Gimme said... 135

I gotta feeling Palin is going to draw in huge numbers, which is going to put Khate in the backseat for sure. No one can bear to watch her the way she treats the kids anymore. That business in the store even when trying to be a mother was so over the top. Like a drill sargent talking to new recruits. I tried to watch on You Tube and made me sick. I figure she is off doing some Twist of Khatan footage. That is one show I won't be watching..that voice..the horror. Will check out the Alaska show though.

Hippie Chick said... 136

@TLC Ship is Sinking...Thank you for your well thought out response to my post. I see your point & it makes sense. :)

Anonymous said... 137

Anonymous said...

TLC originally planned to use the Alaska footage for Kate+8 AND a crossover for Palin's Alaska, but because of the problems Kate caused on location they didn't get enough good footage so they scrapped the crossover idea and decided to use it for just Palin's Alaska. Palin's Alaska IS scheduled to premiere November 14 at 9pm. I'd imagine we'll start seeing promos for it sometime next month.

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This is speculation, not fact. Why people insist on regurgitating gossip and claiming it as truth is beyond me.

Anon 1 said... 138

Hippie Chick,
TLC originally planned to use the Alaska footage for Kate+8 AND a crossover for Palin's Alaska, but because of the problems Kate caused on location they didn't get enough good footage so they scrapped the crossover idea and decided to use it for just Palin's Alaska. Palin's Alaska IS scheduled to premiere November 14 at 9pm. I'd imagine we'll start seeing promos for it sometime next month
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Is there a link for this statement?

Sarah Palin, how desperate are you? Kate Gosselin, really? said... 139

Anon 1 said...Hippie Chick,
TLC originally planned to use the Alaska footage for Kate+8 AND a crossover for Palin's Alaska, but because of the problems Kate caused on location they didn't get enough good footage so they scrapped the crossover idea and decided to use it for just Palin's Alaska. Palin's Alaska IS scheduled to premiere November 14 at 9pm.
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Is there a link for this statement?

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The only official media release from TLC announced the premiere date of Sarah Palin's Alaska on 11/14 @ 9pm.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/06/sarah-palin-reality-show_n_673759.html

When pap photos surfaced of the Gosselin family in Alaska, media speculated that they were filming for an Alaskan special for Kate Plus 8. More info leaked that the Gosselins would go camping with Palin. (This was around late July.)

Example: http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2010/07/sarah_palin_kate_gosselin_a_pe.html

At the time, Kate Gosselin and Sarah Palin were TLC's biggest high-profile celebs, so one could easily speculate that there would be an Alaskan Kate Plus 8/Sarah Palin's Alaska premiere night. It only made sense since early ratings of Kate Plus 8 (first and second specials) averaged about 3 million viewers. TLC would be crazy not to do this....

Then...wham! Kate threw everyone a curve ball by backing-out of the camping trip, just as it was beginning. As soon as the Alaskan trip ended, Kate showed up in LA. There was some speculation that Kate met with TLC execs who were not too thrilled about her camping stunt. (Although it could also have been an Emmy meeting, as we all later found out.)

About a week later, TLC finally made an announcement that Kate including the kids would appear on the premiere of Sarah Palin's Alaska.
(This was in early August.)

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/08/06/its-official-sarah-palin-and-kate-gosselin-are-joining-forces/

Pure speculation but makes you wonder...Something must have happened within that week where it went from a Kate Plus 8 special to ONLY Sarah Palin's Alaska.

Facts:
- Paps shot footage of the Gosselins filming at a zoo and various places, without the Palins.
- TLC only confirmed the camping portion as part of Palin's show.

So what about the rest of the non-Palin footage? Why film if there wasn't a special (especially without Sarah Palin who is the main star of her own show)?

What will be interesting is to see how much of the Gosselins appear in Sarah Palin's Alaska series premiere. Since the Alaskan trip, Kate's ratings declined and some of the media is finally opening their eyes to the real Kate Gosselin. I doubt TLC anticipated this happening. Can Kate Gosselin continue to be a big ratings draw? Or, will this end up hurting Sarah Palin's reality tv premiere?

Anon 1 said... 140

Sarah Palin, how desperate are you? Kate Gosselin, really? said...

Thanks! Boy, you KNOW your KG facts! LOL

Paula said... 141

The work permits for the Gosselin children expire this fall. In order for Kate + 8 to continue, Jon, their Father, will have to give his permission before new work permits can be issued for these children.

SchmeckyGirl said... 142

Admin,

What do you know about the two different bills that were brought up in the hearing? There were two: HB 19 and HB 2515. (I posted the link here yesterday but it was too long to post all of it.)

It seems to me that it's possible that O'Brien's bill could be even better than Murt's. The laws he's proposing seem less lenient than Murt's. It doesn't matter to me which bill becomes a law or who presented it. However, I do wonder if there are other proposals in the HB 19 that are negative and just weren't mentioned or specified.

Would you consider doing a comparison of each? I was going to do it myself but it gave me a headache. ;)

Pamelalalala said... 143

TLC can give Kate a new contract ( if the current one is up ), and there still be no show. They would just have to keep paying her whether there is a show or not, and she would have to remain available only to them. I think TLC is afraid of letting her go and another network snatching her up. Granted, I doubt they would pay her $250,000 without a show, but maybe something like ( just guessing ) $5,000-$10,000 per month until they decide to film her again. She technically can remain their employee without actually having to do anything, as long as they ( TLC ) still get to control her "career" and she would still need their permission to do other tv projects.

PatE said... 144

Barbara and Jessica, great comments. Admin, too.

.....but oh my god!!! WHO is going to pay for Steve's "services".

Can't wait for that announcement.

Kate is a cliché, the affair with the bodyguard, the blond hair, the hooker drab, the boobs, the facefiller, botox, living off of her children, playing the Shrew, the new money lifestyle,....ugh, good riddance.

Denise said... 145

TLC is probably afraid to tell Kate.

a supporter of this site & said... 146

I watched this show when the kids were toddlers.
Was totally unaware of the impact on the children as they grew. I see the light and I wonder how many disturbed adults will come out of the group as they mature. Very sad. If the show does get cancelled (and I am hoping it does) Kate Gosselin will have a chance to actually prove to the world how she is"a single Mother and provides for her children", as she spouts to anyone who will listen. I have been waiting for the last couple of years to see her support the kids. As far as I can tell, without those 8 on the TV, nobody gives a rat's ass about Kate. As far as I can tell, I don't see "the view" having her back to whine about Jon. I think Whoopi, Joy and Barbara all have her number and are done with it.

Moose Mania said... 147

She always finds a way though.... like an antibiotic-resistant staph infection, she refuses to go away.

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...kind of like that dreaded flesh-eating bacteria.

Would this all be a matter of semantics? Has TLC issued any kind of official denial so we could take a look at their wording? They are pretty sneaky...

K8SUCKS said... 148

Admin-

I got what you were trying to convey. It's all symantics when it comes to TLC/K8. Vague denials, blanket answers.

I am hoping and praying that this is true. Just gotta keep my fingers crossed .....

Administrator said... 149

We've got two gossip sites reporting two different things. I hope it's true that the show is done. This blog has allowed me to collect a few sources of my own and one of them HAS confirmed to me this is true. Everyone is welcome to come to their own conclusions, as for me I more hope it's true and HOPE these sources are right more than anything else.

Lauren said... 150

IF this does turn out to be true, I think Jon Gosselin did TLC a HUGE favor by NOT re-upping his contract.

This is an easy way for TLC to cut ties with Kate and move on to other projects.

Karma sure is interesting, isn't it?
Jon and his parental rights have all the power now.

He cut off Kate's show and her income stream. Karma is a bitch, isn't it Kate. It's funny how Jon came out holding all the cards.

I wouldn't count Kate out, she is resourceful and manipulative. She's down but not out - yet.

Dee said... 151

I don't think there is going to be any "Twist of Kate". I think that is over. I think TLC put that idea out there and did a couple shows but then found that nobody is interested in watching just Kate and that the show didn't actually do well. I also think that with the rating drop on the other show and without her fan support, I don't think they thought it lucrative with all of Kate's demands. The show wouldn't have made them in money in the end. I guess we will see. But I do hope for the kids' sake that it is over for them.

Also I think support for Jon would increase if he is actually not signing the contract and not allowing the kids to film anymore. He would get much more positive attention if that is the case. Go Jon!!

boo said... 152

I agree with Schmecky. Assuming it's true that Jon won't let them film anymore, TLC isn't "cancelling" the show. It just isn't being filmed. The end result is the same, but it saves face for TLC and for Kate. Who knows, there might also be some sort of contract provision where TLC guaranteed a certain # of episodes and would have to pay Kate if it "cancelled" before that # was filmed. Just a thought.

jibberjabbers said... 153

TLC in the very beginning already stated that Kate Plus 8 would only be a series of "specials" that would air in the summer.

Summer is over, so should be Kate Plus 8.

I suspect the kids to "appear" on Twist of Kate as special guests.

Anonymous said... 154

This is NOT true, although I wish it was.
http://www.gossipcop.com/kate-gosselin-show-canceled-cancelled-plus-8-eight-tlc/

Laurie said... 155

would that it were true but I read on another site that this was a bogus story and Perez ran with it without checking his facts.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kat said... 156

I'm waiting for TLC to announce that news before I exhale...

God, I hope that for their children's sake it's true. I don't care if Kate's show; "Twist of Kate" takes its place- just as long as the Gosselin 8 have their private lives back.

Kk said... 157

Unfortunately - VERY unfortunately - TLC denies this.

Must Love Dogs said... 158

Good for Jon!!!!!!! I don't blame him one bit, I am so pleased to hear that he is standing his ground as a parent and not letting this woman call the shots anymore. Filming his kids lives each week with TLC wanting to send his kids all over Gods creation is not a way to raise kids. Let her do her own thing without bringing the kids into it. She has said so many times that she is doing it all by herself, well here ya go Kate Gosselin, no do it without dragging your kids into it. I have so much more respect for Jon right now that I can even put it into words. I also think that Ellen is so good for him and the kids. Go Jon and do what is right for your kids cause you have so many people backing you up and your kids will some day thank you for being the better parent...

wayward said... 159

With or without Jon's consent...really, what kind of future did this show have anyway? The ratings have made it perfectly clear no one wants to see the Gosselins go on another vacation or watch contrived drivel like getting chickens. They could be putting Twist of Kate back on the table, but again, who wants to watch sheeple drool all over Kate? She's the joke of the celebrity world so I don't think she has any prospects there. She always finds a way though.... like an antibiotic-resistant staph infection, she refuses to go away.

LisaNH said... 160

I can only hope that Perez's sources are right. I am reserving my glee until it is confirmed by TLC. I don't want to get my hopes up.

livvy said... 161

Stick to your guns Jon. Your children will thank you.

More Original Than Linda said... 162

Hope this is true!

Enjoy your freedom, little Gosselins.
Enjoy (what's left of) your childhood.

Westcoaster said... 163

Finally, maybe - let them film Twist of Kate, let them do whatever they can with her, just leave those kids alone. Of course, we all know, sadly, what rage a scorned narcissist can unleash on those around her. So still, poor kids.

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