To Jon: We support your right to have a healthy relationship with your kids, undisturbed by a narcissistic mother who has some sick need to sabotage it all.
I am so sorry, Jon, that you have been bulldozed by this twisted woman who insists on clobbering anybody and anything that gets in her way of fame. You may not be a perfect parent, but you do not deserve to have to sit back and take this slander Kate throws out there. The worst thing that ever happened to you was laying eyes on her that day at your company picnic. I always knew from your very first episode that one day she would be the ex wife from hell. And boy was I right!
I really pity the next fool who hooks up with Kate. I hope they are prepared for a live of living hell because that's all they will get from her. She has no soul. Just full of venom.
Jon sometimes you wear me out, but I have always been solely on your side. No matter how many dumb moves you made, I knew you were a great father and a good man. These children need and love you , and cherish every minute they have with you, which is obvious to anyone that sees their faces light up when they see you. Children seem to know what parent they can count on , and your eight children feel secure and happy when with you, knowing you will always be there for them. Just don't give up Jon. Keep a srong faith and keep fighting for those "Eight". You and your children are in my prayers and best wishes.
Jon, silence on this could translate to some as guilt or truth.
I can't believe any agreement with TLC would supercede your right not to be defamed on National TV. In case you might not have noticed, we here really, really dislike your ex and would love nothing more to see her a-- get handed to her. But this goes way beyond how we feel about her. She is trashing something years of watching you on TV has proven over & over again- you are an excellent father. The love you and your children have for each other exudes even from a printed photograph. For them... please put an end to their mother's shameless attempts to garner sympathy by attacking you.
JON, please get those kids away from Kate. She is damaging their psyche more than you know. I bet you've already seen some of the damage that is being done to your kids. It will only get worse. You're all they have!
Jon, I know you dont talk to Kate much anymore, but whatever it was about her that was troubled in the past, has now taken her over. She seems to be so very ill. Is she really an appropriate person right now to have sole responsibility for 8 little ones?
She is so angry. And not all of it is at you, is it Jon? She is very troubled and nearly out of control, and in no condition to be a positive mature influence on the children, without counter balance.
Your children need their father. YOU grew up with a good dad, so maybe you are underestimating how much damage their mother is doing to your kids?
Lots of folks will advise you to play this out for the media. You know that is wrong. It is none of our business and your children dont need any more POOP from their lives broadcast. You know what you have to do. (I am not sure how you will put the money together to pay the decent attorney that you need...)
Jon, above all, stop signing stuff. Stop agreeing to stuff, no matter how easy it sounds. I know you have been beat down, but take a deep breath and get a hold of yourself.
Some day you will have to look adult Cara in the eyes and explain yourself. Someday adult Joel will ask "how could you, Dad?".
Jon, Please get a decent lawyer. What Kate is doing to you is AGAINST THE LAW. It's called alienation of affection. I cannot imagine what she says to those kids when nobody is around.
Some of us see the faces on the kids when they are with you and we can feel the love, safety and joy they get from being with you. Fight for them. Stop letting TLC tell you what to do. THEY ARE YOUR KIDS -- not TLCs.
It seems incredible that no one has ever challenged Kate on the untruths that she spews. I can hardly wait for the body language reveal. Perhaps we shall see an expose in the National Enquirer.
"To Jon: We support your right to have a healthy relationship with your kids, undisturbed by a narcissistic mother who has some sick need to sabotage it all." ---------
I agree with you Admin. Being up against a narcissist and a huge network who panders to her has got to be a tough fight for Jon. Unfortunately for him he's had to deal with that woman for longer than anyone, even TLC.
I didn't watch Live, but from what I've read here about this mornings show, nothing about her surprises me anymore.
I say give her enough rope and she'll hang herself. Let her go out there and spew her bullshit because the more she exposes herself now, the more people will be able to see what a horribly sick nasty self-absorbed greedy narcissist she is. People don't like to be fooled and lied to.
This article by Linda Martinez-Lewi, PhD describes Kate Gosselin to a tee: **** "Narcissists are truth adverse. They can't tell the truth, deal with the truth or handle people who are seeking the truth. They live in a delusion of grand proportions that uses lying and deception as handy tools to get whatever they want. A narcissist will look you right in the eyes, unblinking and lie to you at close range. Narcissists become so skilled at lying that many of them believe that they are telling the truth. Others use constant lying as a convenient way of controlling others. Besides if you don't have a conscience, lying is smooth and easy."
**** There's another three paragraphs at: http://www.wellsphere.com/mental-health-article/narcissist-s-lies-let-me-count-the-ways/1194807
Why is there no comment section on R&K? They afraid people would blow up the site with bad reviews of Kate? Maybe I missed it, but I can't find anywhere to comment.
Kate is sinking her own ship everytime she opens her Donkey mouth. Peopl who work with her are privy to the real kate and know she is full of BS. Radar hasn't posted the daily puff piece about her so the "fans" can go crazy. It will probably be "breaking news" and that how sad it is for her and having a dead beat husband, blah, blah. Too bad Jon can't sue her for slander or libel or at least have his lawyer tell her lawyer to STFU!
On Friday 10th September 2010, @jongosselin1 said:
As much as I want to respond to numerous LIES recently claimed on Regis and Kelly, I will refrain. I have learned from the past that it’s a waste of my time and energy. I am “rising above”, and refuse to engage in any sort of public argument that could potentially harm or upset my children. My children and the people in my life know the truth, and that is what’s important. ________________ Maybe even posting this wasn't the best thing, however I understand the need to just 'say something/anything' even if it's not what you really really want to say. Jon--the high road taker.
Jon & Ellen, run don't walk to a good attorney and go after the liars. Your reputations, good deeds and intentions are on the line and they should not get away with this. Kate again lies, gets the media to go along with her and this only hurts the children more. She should not be putting their Father down like that, esp. in the public eye. I hope someone can speak up for Jon as I don't think all the pictures we have seen of the children oviously happy to see him and the video of them crying over leaving him are lies. He is not perfect but neither is she and I do think he is trying to do what is best for the children.
Jon, you need to hook up with a reputable therapist who could act as an expert witness on your behalf; someone like a Professor of Psychology or a Child Development expert, like the one who testified at Murt's hearing.This person should be someone who is expert in their field, but not someone who is in the public eye or seeking publicity.
I know that you are well aware that your children are being abused psychologically, emotionally and possibly physically, and I believe you are putting together a plan to stop the abuse. Please surround yourself with the best team possible, including experts in childhood trauma. This is not just about child labour; it goes deeper than that.
Ellen, continue to maintain your loving support and your silence. Any comments from you would immediately become the tabloids' focus, and detract from the real issue, which is Kate's unfitness to parent the children.
I wish you both every success in stopping the madness that the children endure on a daily basis.
From Jon's Twitter Page: On Friday 10th September 2010, @jongosselin1 said: reply ...As much as I want to respond to numerous LIES recently claimed on Regis and Kelly, I will refrain. I have learned from the past that it’s a waste of my time and energy. I am “rising above”, and refuse to engage in any sort of public argument that could potentially harm or upset my children. My children and the people in my life know the truth, and that is what’s important.
The Media & Hollywood may be blind at times, but I would bet money that slamming your Ex and whining how hard you have it on TV will get you NO WHERE when the entire planet (except 12 sheeple on ROL) are onto the BS. Kate's looking for pity and pats on the back (well the BG's back cause you're not allowed to touch kate) but she won't get them for very long. Neicy Nash and Billy Bush are probably hiding in the bushes waiting for the right moment to pounce, if only Mario Lopez would get his lips off Kates behind!
All the networks are in bed together while a "star" is hot. They ALL want the interviews and ratings and the traffic to their sites. Kate does an excellent job of killing her likability EVERYTIME she opens her mouth. Can you imagine her on Celeb Apprent? Unless she gets a personality transplant in the next 8 months, I would venture to say that would be her LAST gig.
mama san said... It seems incredible that no one has ever challenged Kate on the untruths that she spews. I can hardly wait for the body language reveal. Perhaps we shall see an expose in the National Enquirer.
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You're absolutely correct mama san, and it's about time her lying mouth is taken to task.
You know, the real only way to silence this "Kate-Monster" is to boy-cott every single thing she does. Remember: ratings=$$$$, and if Kate doesn't generate ratings, no one will want to give her the time of day.
ESPECIALLY because Kate Gosselin does not have a talented bone in her body.
First off, Jon I appreciate that you are taking the high road and not making a big deal out of this. Your perspective that your children and your family know the truth and that's all that counts - priceless. Keep remembering that.
Continue to keep a low profile and let Kate hang herself. She is truly desperate - she knows that her show is going to end, that TLC is probably looking to pull the plug and she's back to playing the same old broken record. The thing is...your marriage has been over for more than a year. She has proven that she can get employment and support herself. Playing the "poor me, I'm a destitute mother of 8 children whose lazy ex doesn't pay his child support" routine is getting old and falling on more and more deaf ears.
Stay strong, be positive and mature and move on with your life. Best thing you could probably do, for yourself and your kids? Go back to school and work on a business degree or a communications (radio, television, film) degree. Show the world that you are trying to better yourself. You've got the right idea - it's not what you keep saying that will count, it's what you do. If you're going back to school, Kate can say all she wants that you're being lazy. People will see that you're trying to better yourself and your situation. A judge will look at that and take it into account if she files a complaint with the courts that you're not paying your child support.
In fact, that's about the only comment I might make if I were you. If someone asks why you don't pay your support, you can simply respond "I do pay. If Kate is unhappy with our arrangement, she can return to court and we'll let a judge decide." Because the bottom line? She won't do it. She's all talk.
No matter who, what, where or when Jon Gosselin is the father of these 8 beautiful children. No parent should be bullied by an industry to give his consent for the filming of his minor children the way Jon Gosselin has been.
I have been along time critic of these parents but I stand behind Jon's twitter today....This is not a situation for the public arena. Just because the ratings have gone down the toilet...that is TLC's fault.
"wayward said... Jon, silence on this could translate to some as guilt or truth."
Hi wayward, I respectfully disagree with this. As much as we ALL would love to see Kate challenged about her continual bashing of Jon, and her lies, it is NOT wise to fight this out in public. Even if the man did speak out, the "fans" would still think he is guilty.
Jon was wrong when he dissed Kate on tv last year, and he knows that now. Kate has CONTINUALLY thrown Jon under the bus, even when she claimed to be a "high road taker". The very day she made this claim, an interview by People was released and Kate ripped Jon but good. Jon is right, this WILL hurt the kids. And sooner or later this WILL come back to bite the parent who keeps doing this.
I would love to see a GAG order put on Kate. I wish Jon had a good lawyer who could stop this public display of stupidity.
Also behind you, Jon--always have been. Having worked in the legal field for many years, I know that it's impossible for even a good attorney to go up against the corporate powerhouse that is TLC. It is all encompassing. You don't need to be choosing your attorney...you don't have the background to do that successfully. Your best hope is through Paul Petersen. I also know you have your hands tied by TLC...only someone like Paul Petersen, with his connections, will be able to help you when the time is right. I'm sure you are doing the best you can for the time being, and you don't owe us or anyone else an explanation. Don't let Kate goad you into getting defensive and going off the deep end. Anyone with a minimum of a 2-digit I.Q. has her number.
Did Kate happen to mention who was watching her 8 kids while she was off to R & K? Obviously, Jon had the big blue van so he had the kids in his care. This is such a sad mess. What kind of mother bashes the father of her kids on national tv? She is sickening to the max. We must stand up for what is right for the kids. Jon doesn't get a pass for starting this J & K plus 8 with Kate, but on film he certainly treated her with more respect than he ever received from her. This most recent public bashing is on tape for eternity. This is wrong! She is desperate for attention, both good and bad.
When celebs (faux or real) they usually have a list of "subjects" that are off limits (probably the bodyguard, filming in heat, etc) but when she said she was sole supporter, AC at least said "so you are saying Jon doesn't support the kids" she basically said NO. AC should have followed up with the "well what about reports of him paying you 25k a month" and let her squirm. Kelly probably would have deflected the question and they would have gone to commercial.
Then when she said that "she waits by the phone for the call to come home" AC should have asked her "so have they done that while he had custody?" It's not that she doesn't get asked tough questions, it's that she is allowed to deflect or simply ignore the question. The public isn't stupid and a majority of her "sane" fans are probably disgusted at how she tossed Jon under the wheels because they know it's not right and I'm betting they will not be watching her much longer.
Well, we all know that Merideth can NEVER really interview Kate again with journalistic integrity, BUT maybe she can get Kate on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. Then they can both bash Jon. Kate can blame Jon for her show being cancelled and now she is down on her luck..boo hoo. You wait, I bet SHE will blame Jon for the demise of the show and never accept that maybe it was her big mouth that did the show in (just like her marriage).
What you are doing is the smartest and best thing: lying low. Not talking to the media. Just doing the best you can, seeing your kids and not bashing Kate in kind.
Believe me, the people that count--your kids--know and appreciate the difference on a very deep level they can't even verbalize.
The more she bashes you and the more you stay quiet, the more she looks like a bully and an asshole. She is finding the sympathy angle harder and harder to come by the longer she stays in the spotlight, and for good reason: she deserves no sympathy.
In fact, sitting here thinking about it, I can't come up with a SINGLE reason to feel sorry for Kate Gosselin. Not one. Normally I'd say well, she has EIGHT kids (LOL, I have one and like it that way), but she WANTED loads of kids. She WANTED the attention, so can't feel sorry for her there. Besides that, many people feel that children are a blessing and to her they seem like moneymakers and/or pains in her ass. Can't respect or feel sorry for that.
She's divorced, yep, but who wanted that? Oh yeah, she did.
Most people see that there's no reason to feel sorry for her, in fact quite the opposite. She created this life. She wanted all of this and now that public interest is waning, she's got to drum up drama.
No sympathy.
Hang in there, Jon. Just keep doing what you're doing. The thing with TLC WILL end someday. Even co-parenting with Kate will end in 12 years and then the good foundation you laid down with those kids will pay off in many ways as you have a good, loving relationship with them. I watched that show back in the day--I noticed who actually rolled up his sleeves and took care of the kids. They noticed too, trust me.
Jon, I have liked you from the beginning. You are a great father. How you have become trapped with the inability to protect yourself or your children from one person is hard to fathom. It is so blatantly wrong that Kate can go cry to the morning talk shows about what a horrible person and father you are over and over again and yet you can't speak your side. I believe that Kate has finally done something that is going to cause her house of cards to come crashing down on her. By telling the world she is a 'high road taker' and yet going on TV to basically accuse you of everything bad she could think of is going to backfire on her. Most of us now realize that if her lips are moving, she is lying. Good luck to you Jon. Do something to help your children. You may have to search, but you can find a way.
Jon is absolutely doing the right thing not responded to Kate even though I'm sure he wants to address each and every one of her lies.
Kate is trying to draw him into her territory and he won't go there, as he shouldn't.
I've practiced family law my whole career. One thing I advise parents in these situations with a hostile parent....don't go to their territory, don't be drawn to their arena. That is what they want, they want you to come on over. Whatever you do, don't.
Posters don't even try to goad Jon/Ellen into overreacting. Remember, that PS media ground him into dust once, and they won't hesitate to do it again. TLC has a bottomless pocket for Khate's legal fees. Looks like Jon's in a good place w/Ellen.
Jon can tweet all he wants but he too is allowing this charade to go on. If that were my ex on national television trashing me, there is no network nor an attorney that would keep me quiet and keep me from standing up for myself.
His silence is deafening and his refusal to take a stand and protect his children from this charade and abuse makes him as guilty as that bitch that is spewing her nonsense on national television.
Ellen and Jon can continue to tweet about how they are taking the high road but the fact is, Jon's being compensated by TLC for his silence and his agreement to keep exploiting the children, allowing his ex to exploit the children and as a result, he gets to be trashed on every morning show she appears on.
Not buying his taking the high road while allowing Kate to take the low road. If Jon had a set of stones, he would have stopped this long ago. Sorry thing is that the greenbacks more sway with the two of them than the emotional welfare of their kids.
I call B.S on this whole thing. It's all for publicity and keeping them in the public eye, both Jon and Kate.
The chemistry that made Jon and Kate Plus 8 work on television was that people tuned in to see Kate go ballistic on Jon and watched as he took it. That was the attraction. The kids were just an aside on the entire program.
People couldn't believe how much of a bitch this woman was and how tolerant Jon was with her mood swings. When Jon got thrown under the bus, (by choice) and then the divorce was the next train wreck, ( while Kate was deciding in NC last year, according to her own words), while Jon was home overseeing the kitchen overhaul, this entire thing has been scripted by TLC and it has kept both Jon and Kate on the front page.
This entire thing is a charade. It has been so, ever since TLC figured they had no more interesting episodes that would keep the public's interest with the kids and the family.
TLC, Jon, Kate, Figure 8 Productions and all those involved are laughing at each and everyone of us on the hundreds of blogs, both pro and con about the angst and love for these two frauds.
This entire show, family, scenario has been a fraud since January 2009 and the ensuing drama has all been scripted. Trust me on this. There is no way those children were screaming that day in the van because Jon was leaving.
There is NO way, those children are happy sleeping in sleeping bags in a one bedroom apartment for two, three or 4 days for visitation. There is absolutely NO way, those kids are being picked up at the end of the driveway for visitation while there so happens to be the one and only photographer there to capture the staged pick ups.
This is sooooooo staged it makes I Dream of Jeanie episodes look like real Reality television.
You guys, we've all been punked by these two and the more we blog, the more they punk us. I'm telling you all that this is so staged, the only losers besides us, for taking it to heart, are the children of these two losers that continue to put them on the front line so the two of them can continue to milk the money train.
Sounds like Anderson did what he could...he's such a skilled interviewer, you know he had her number. Probably just hard to grill someone on the Regis and Kelly show, it's supposed to be light hearted and funny.
Which is another reason Kate will never transition onto prime time TV. People who watch Regis and Kelly do not tune in for a sob story...they want to laugh. This fact is lost on her, she can't keep selling the same woeful tale year after year. Celebrities with longevity have more than good looks...they are charming, funny, and have great charisma. Kate has none of this, I think she will be fading soon!
Angie, You are right, Jon shouldn't allow himself to be slandered by Kate, but he does, continually, right? Why? Why does Jon do that?
Judy, Is Jon fighting for the kids? I haven't seen or heard any evidence of that. He starts something and never follows it thru? Path of least resistance for Jon is his pattern.
I don't buy this TLC corporate crap. He had a contract. He broke it. They broke him by giving him his allowance. How many attorneys has he had now?
And remember, he stills get paid by this corporation. If Jon wanted it to stop he could have done it. But where would he get his money?
No one watches Regis & Kally to listen to a negative, boorish sob-sister. She did the same thing on Ellen, of all shows. Ellen? You think people watch Ellen to her your tale of woe Kate? It's a comedy show, you tone-deaf loser. No one cares about how hard your life is (what a joke, by the way). Ellen is not Oprah; not that Oprah would find you interesting either. Whine in front of a mirror. Nobody else cares, you humorless bitch.
Better yet, take your white trash self to Jerry Springer. He loves dealing with hateful, low-class, vile scum.
Admin, question? Someone here made the comment..could Jon possibly be testifying at the Rep. Murt hearing this mo.? IS that a hearing where 'one' could be summoned for testify, as in he would have no choice but to or is that only in a court of law? I have a feeling he can't be summoned, but I wanted to hear what you say. I guess I want to believe SO badly, that Kate's day of reckoning is coming.
There is NO way, those children are happy sleeping in sleeping bags in a one bedroom apartment for two, three or 4 days for visitation.
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Kelly - I think it's entirely possible and probable that the kids are happy doing just that. (assuming there are no cameras). Having a slumber party with mommy and/or daddy, what young child wouldn't love that?
Just curious, what brought you back from your self-imposed Gosselin-blogging exile? I'm being totally sincere, no snark intended .
Kelly said... TLC, Jon, Kate, Figure 8 Productions and all those involved are laughing at each and everyone of us on the hundreds of blogs, both pro and con about the angst and love for these two frauds. @@@
Kelly, I too have worried the same thing ever since Jon let the kids go back to filming. I've got a 'time limit' on this whole thing (in my head) and if Jon doesn't have something "up his sleeve", and soon, then I'm giving up.
If and I say if, the kids are truly complaining about the sleeping bag accommodations I would figure they heard their mom making derogatory comments about it so they think it is bad. IF she were saying the right things they may think of it as fun.
My grandkids prefer to sleep on the floor when they visit even though we have beds and couches they could use. They care more about just being with me .
Jon is trying to live within his limited means. It is all in Kate's head that they kids have a problem sleeping at his house, why are they screaming for him if they hate it there? Kids don't known the difference, all they know is they are with Daddy.
Only in Kate's head do the kids "need" a mansion to be comfortable. This is all to justify her own excess.
Kate wants him to pay more child support, Kate wants him to spend more money on more bedrooms. Kate wants him to visit away from the home, but wants his place to be bigger. The guy CANNOT win.
Well, people have seen the smiles and joy when these kids' Dad have been with them and seen them beg him not to leave them at the house with Kate. as for the kids calling Kate to come home, perhaps they might be getting discipline such as taking turns or learning they are not entitled to everything...lacking in Mommy Dearest's home. Kids of divorce like to play one parent against the other, I'm sure the children call Jon too. Bad mouthing a parent or trying to gain sympathy by trashing a parent to the public...is very foolish, Kate. Trolling for cash or viewers, like usual? The narcissism and personality disorders in Kate Gosselin is progressing. TLC is playing a very dangerous game by keeping this NARCISSISTIC soul snuffer appearing in public forums. Jon, please get counseling for your kids. Their mother is doing great harm to them.
Also Kate is completely missing the fact that kids aim to please.
Just because the kids might call her on a visit with Jon, or they miss her or whatever bs she is spewing, what makes her think they're not just telling her what they know she wants to hear?
She has made it crystal clear she hates Jon. The kids are not stupid. Mommy must want to hear us say bad things about Daddy and say how much we miss her. Kids want to please, especially kids who are victims of parental alienation. See post above.
But, if we walk away, and the heat is taken off Kate & TLC, the deception and distruction of those eight little lives will continue. Who knows how many laws will be enacted that protect children and their participation on t.v shows and motion pictures because we chose to stand up for the innocents.
That's why, more than ever we have to keep a magnifying glass on this monster & TLC.
She and TLC will fall hard eventually- of this I am positive.
Who is Khate trying to kid? Jon would be in jail if he wasn't making his child support payments. $20,000 a month is a lot of money that anyone else could live very well on and she acts like it is chump change found "digging in the sofa for change to pay to the mortgage" (her infamous begging line). And what was all that hand flapping and dancing around in her seat trying to look all sexy and antsy and lying like a dog. She acts like she is on some sort of stimulant. I wish Dr. Glass would look at that video and do a commentary on it. It made me sick. I wish I hadn't watched. She is far more evil than any of us had ever imagined. Isn't there a freedom of information act that allows access to public records to see if he is indeed making his payments. Did she not throw down the gauntlet for someone to expose her lies by pronouncing on TV that she is the sole provider and that she sits at home waiting which one to call to say that they want to come home. When is she ever home. The nannies pick the kids up when they return. TLC should be ashamed of themselves. They don't have to stoop that low to save a dying show. The show died when they kicked Jon to the curb. Now we know why they got rid of him - he wouldn't have allowed the out and out abuse that we are seeing now.
Just another voice in support. As I remember it - the kids were not to be moved, but the parents were.Perhaps you could find a lawyer to that back to court or however it's done. The house is not "Mine all Mine" - it's their's. Thee should not have to she shuttled back and forth. Especially an apartment. We all know whose fault that is and it's not you. Hang in there.
Mom and Dad divorce. Dad gets younger girlfriends, Mom gets fake nails and extensions. Dad gets bloated, Mom raves about being an independant woman but always complains about doing it by herself. Mom and Dad bad mouth each other. Kids are caught in the middle and shuffled back and forth.
How is this different from 75% of households in America?
Why is there even a show about this anymore? Why does anyone even care?
Yeah, I know, we care about the kids, the kids, tv crews, exploitation, the kids. There are a ton of kids in this country who are going through the same thing right now, they just aren't being filmed. So maybe if we'd all realize that these people are not worth the effort they will get off tv, we can stop talking about them, and they can suffer out their disfunctional family life in private like regular people.
I hope I never live long enough to see the day when America becomes a society that just doesn't care. If it comes to the point that compassion is no longer a part of the fiber of the American people, it will be a dark day in history. This nation was built on a foundation of genuine concern and empathy for one another, leading to a peaceful and successful existence that is truly worth living.
As children, our needs are basic and are met by people other than ourselves, and it's easy to believe others always have the answers for us. What if there were no answers -- no one to look out for us? We can become bitter or better because of our experiences as children. Will these kids become bitter adults because all of the grown-ups in their lives turned the other way? All one has to do is to look at the close-up photo of little Joel that Administrator has posted under the lollipop heading. Look into his eyes as he receives the broken candy, and if someone still can say, "so maybe if we'd all realize that these people are not worth the effort..." then I guess there's really nothing more to say. It would be at this point that we've witnessed the deterioration of the very character of our nation.
I apologize for the sermon. It is Sunday, and ironically enough, the lesson in church today was "Compassion and caring without ceasing."
Mom and Dad divorce. Dad gets younger girlfriends, Mom gets fake nails and extensions. Dad gets bloated, Mom raves about being an independant woman but always complains about doing it by herself. Mom and Dad bad mouth each other. Kids are caught in the middle and shuffled back and forth.
How is this different from 75% of households in America?
Why is there even a show about this anymore? Why does anyone even care?
Yeah, I know, we care about the kids, the kids, tv crews, exploitation, the kids. There are a ton of kids in this country who are going through the same thing right now, they just aren't being filmed. So maybe if we'd all realize that these people are not worth the effort they will get off tv, we can stop talking about them, and they can suffer out their disfunctional family life in private like regular people.
Well, people have seen the smiles and joy when these kids' Dad have been with them and seen them beg him not to leave them at the house with Kate. as for the kids calling Kate to come home, perhaps they might be getting discipline such as taking turns or learning they are not entitled to everything...lacking in Mommy Dearest's home. Kids of divorce like to play one parent against the other, I'm sure the children call Jon too. Bad mouthing a parent or trying to gain sympathy by trashing a parent to the public...is very foolish, Kate. Trolling for cash or viewers, like usual? The narcissism and personality disorders in Kate Gosselin is progressing. TLC is playing a very dangerous game by keeping this NARCISSISTIC soul snuffer appearing in public forums. Jon, please get counseling for your kids. Their mother is doing great harm to them.
Also behind you, Jon--always have been. Having worked in the legal field for many years, I know that it's impossible for even a good attorney to go up against the corporate powerhouse that is TLC. It is all encompassing. You don't need to be choosing your attorney...you don't have the background to do that successfully. Your best hope is through Paul Petersen. I also know you have your hands tied by TLC...only someone like Paul Petersen, with his connections, will be able to help you when the time is right. I'm sure you are doing the best you can for the time being, and you don't owe us or anyone else an explanation. Don't let Kate goad you into getting defensive and going off the deep end. Anyone with a minimum of a 2-digit I.Q. has her number.
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I am so sorry, Jon, that you have been bulldozed by this twisted woman who insists on clobbering anybody and anything that gets in her way of fame. You may not be a perfect parent, but you do not deserve to have to sit back and take this slander Kate throws out there. The worst thing that ever happened to you was laying eyes on her that day at your company picnic. I always knew from your very first episode that one day she would be the ex wife from hell. And boy was I right!
I really pity the next fool who hooks up with Kate. I hope they are prepared for a live of living hell because that's all they will get from her. She has no soul. Just full of venom.
Jon sometimes you wear me out, but I have always been solely on your side. No matter how many dumb moves you made, I knew you were a great father and a good man.
These children need and love you , and cherish every minute they have with you, which is obvious to anyone that sees their faces light up when they see you.
Children seem to know what parent they can count on , and your eight children feel secure and happy when with you, knowing you will always be there for them.
Just don't give up Jon. Keep a srong faith and keep fighting for those "Eight".
You and your children are in my prayers and best wishes.
Jon, silence on this could translate to some as guilt or truth.
I can't believe any agreement with TLC would supercede your right not to be defamed on National TV. In case you might not have noticed, we here really, really dislike your ex and would love nothing more to see her a-- get handed to her. But this goes way beyond how we feel about her. She is trashing something years of watching you on TV has proven over & over again- you are an excellent father. The love you and your children have for each other exudes even from a printed photograph. For them... please put an end to their mother's shameless attempts to garner sympathy by attacking you.
JON, please get those kids away from Kate. She is damaging their psyche more than you know. I bet you've already seen some of the damage that is being done to your kids. It will only get worse. You're all they have!
GET HELP for those kids...Kate is out of control.
Amen Administrator!!!!
Jon, PLEASE CALL Paul Petersen TODAY!!
Thank you.
Jon, I know you dont talk to Kate much anymore, but whatever it was about her that was troubled in the past, has now taken her over. She seems to be so very ill. Is she really an appropriate person right now to have sole responsibility for 8 little ones?
She is so angry. And not all of it is at you, is it Jon? She is very troubled and nearly out of control, and in no condition to be a positive mature influence on the children, without counter balance.
Your children need their father. YOU grew up with a good dad, so maybe you are underestimating how much damage their mother is doing to your kids?
Lots of folks will advise you to play this out for the media. You know that is wrong. It is none of our business and your children dont need any more POOP from their lives broadcast. You know what you have to do. (I am not sure how you will put the money together to pay the decent attorney that you need...)
Jon, above all, stop signing stuff. Stop agreeing to stuff, no matter how easy it sounds. I know you have been beat down, but take a deep breath and get a hold of yourself.
Some day you will have to look adult Cara in the eyes and explain yourself. Someday adult Joel will ask "how could you, Dad?".
Jon,
Please get a decent lawyer. What Kate is doing to you is AGAINST THE LAW. It's called alienation of affection. I cannot imagine what she says to those kids when nobody is around.
Some of us see the faces on the kids when they are with you and we can feel the love, safety and joy they get from being with you. Fight for them. Stop letting TLC tell you what to do. THEY ARE YOUR KIDS -- not TLCs.
OMG....this bitch can't even talk anymore with all the botox, filler and fake teeth she has!!
I see the big and little diamond, Steve and Jamie. How sweet. The hell with the "kids".
What a liar.
Is this so her new stupid show gets more publicity?
Jon....hire a lawyer, keep it quiet and let it be fought in court. Don't give her more publicity for her show.
Don't fall for the "tricks".
It seems incredible that no one has ever challenged Kate on the untruths that she spews. I can hardly wait for the body language reveal. Perhaps we shall see an expose in the National Enquirer.
"To Jon: We support your right to have a healthy relationship with your kids, undisturbed by a narcissistic mother who has some sick need to sabotage it all."
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I agree with you Admin. Being up against a narcissist and a huge network who panders to her has got to be a tough fight for Jon. Unfortunately for him he's had to deal with that woman for longer than anyone, even TLC.
I didn't watch Live, but from what I've read here about this mornings show, nothing about her surprises me anymore.
I say give her enough rope and she'll hang herself. Let her go out there and spew her bullshit because the more she exposes herself now, the more people will be able to see what a horribly sick nasty self-absorbed greedy narcissist she is. People don't like to be fooled and lied to.
This article by Linda Martinez-Lewi, PhD describes Kate Gosselin to a tee:
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"Narcissists are truth adverse. They can't tell the truth, deal with the truth or handle people who are seeking the truth. They live in a delusion of grand proportions that uses lying and deception as handy tools to get whatever they want. A narcissist will look you right in the eyes, unblinking and lie to you at close range. Narcissists become so skilled at lying that many of them believe that they are telling the truth. Others use constant lying as a convenient way of controlling others. Besides if you don't have a conscience, lying is smooth and easy."
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There's another three paragraphs at:
http://www.wellsphere.com/mental-health-article/narcissist-s-lies-let-me-count-the-ways/1194807
Amen and Hallelujah to that sentiment.
Why is there no comment section on R&K? They afraid people would blow up the site with bad reviews of Kate? Maybe I missed it, but I can't find anywhere to comment.
Kate is sinking her own ship everytime she opens her Donkey mouth. Peopl who work with her are privy to the real kate and know she is full of BS. Radar hasn't posted the daily puff piece about her so the "fans" can go crazy. It will probably be "breaking news" and that how sad it is for her and having a dead beat husband, blah, blah. Too bad Jon can't sue her for slander or libel or at least have his lawyer tell her lawyer to STFU!
On Friday 10th September 2010, @jongosselin1 said:
As much as I want to respond to numerous LIES recently claimed on Regis and Kelly, I will refrain. I have learned from the past that it’s a waste of my time and energy. I am “rising above”, and refuse to engage in any sort of public argument that could potentially harm or upset my children. My children and the people in my life know the truth, and that is what’s important.
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Maybe even posting this wasn't the best thing, however I understand the need to just 'say something/anything' even if it's not what you really really want to say.
Jon--the high road taker.
Jon & Ellen, run don't walk to a good attorney and go after the liars. Your reputations, good deeds and intentions are on the line and they should not get away with this. Kate again lies, gets the media to go along with her and this only hurts the children more. She should not be putting their Father down like that, esp. in the public eye. I hope someone can speak up for Jon as I don't think all the pictures we have seen of the children oviously happy to see him and the video of them crying over leaving him are lies. He is not perfect but neither is she and I do think he is trying to do what is best for the children.
Jon, you need to hook up with a reputable therapist who could act as an expert witness on your behalf; someone like a Professor of Psychology or a Child Development expert, like the one who testified at Murt's hearing.This person should be someone who is expert in their field, but not someone who is in the public eye or seeking publicity.
I know that you are well aware that your children are being abused psychologically, emotionally and possibly physically, and I believe you are putting together a plan to stop the abuse. Please surround yourself with the best team possible, including experts in childhood trauma. This is not just about child labour; it goes deeper than that.
Ellen, continue to maintain your loving support and your silence. Any comments from you would immediately become the tabloids' focus, and detract from the real issue, which is Kate's unfitness to parent the children.
I wish you both every success in stopping the madness that the children endure on a daily basis.
Just found this tweet comment from Jon:
From Jon's Twitter Page:
On Friday 10th September 2010, @jongosselin1 said:
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...As much as I want to respond to numerous LIES recently claimed on Regis and Kelly, I will refrain. I have learned from the past that it’s a waste of my time and energy. I am “rising above”, and refuse to engage in any sort of public argument that could potentially harm or upset my children. My children and the people in my life know the truth, and that is what’s important.
The Media & Hollywood may be blind at times, but I would bet money that slamming your Ex and whining how hard you have it on TV will get you NO WHERE when the entire planet (except 12 sheeple on ROL) are onto the BS. Kate's looking for pity and pats on the back (well the BG's back cause you're not allowed to touch kate) but she won't get them for very long. Neicy Nash and Billy Bush are probably hiding in the bushes waiting for the right moment to pounce, if only Mario Lopez would get his lips off Kates behind!
All the networks are in bed together while a "star" is hot. They ALL want the interviews and ratings and the traffic to their sites. Kate does an excellent job of killing her likability EVERYTIME she opens her mouth. Can you imagine her on Celeb Apprent? Unless she gets a personality transplant in the next 8 months, I would venture to say that would be her LAST gig.
Where is Gloria Allred when we need her?
mama san said... It seems incredible that no one has ever challenged Kate on the untruths that she spews. I can hardly wait for the body language reveal. Perhaps we shall see an expose in the National Enquirer.
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You're absolutely correct mama san, and it's about time her lying mouth is taken to task.
You know, the real only way to silence this "Kate-Monster" is to boy-cott every single thing she does. Remember: ratings=$$$$, and if Kate doesn't generate ratings, no one will want to give her the time of day.
ESPECIALLY because Kate Gosselin does not have a talented bone in her body.
First off, Jon I appreciate that you are taking the high road and not making a big deal out of this. Your perspective that your children and your family know the truth and that's all that counts - priceless. Keep remembering that.
Continue to keep a low profile and let Kate hang herself. She is truly desperate - she knows that her show is going to end, that TLC is probably looking to pull the plug and she's back to playing the same old broken record. The thing is...your marriage has been over for more than a year. She has proven that she can get employment and support herself. Playing the "poor me, I'm a destitute mother of 8 children whose lazy ex doesn't pay his child support" routine is getting old and falling on more and more deaf ears.
Stay strong, be positive and mature and move on with your life. Best thing you could probably do, for yourself and your kids? Go back to school and work on a business degree or a communications (radio, television, film) degree. Show the world that you are trying to better yourself. You've got the right idea - it's not what you keep saying that will count, it's what you do. If you're going back to school, Kate can say all she wants that you're being lazy. People will see that you're trying to better yourself and your situation. A judge will look at that and take it into account if she files a complaint with the courts that you're not paying your child support.
In fact, that's about the only comment I might make if I were you. If someone asks why you don't pay your support, you can simply respond "I do pay. If Kate is unhappy with our arrangement, she can return to court and we'll let a judge decide." Because the bottom line? She won't do it. She's all talk.
No matter who, what, where or when Jon Gosselin is the father of these 8 beautiful children. No parent should be bullied by an industry to give his consent for the filming of his minor children the way Jon Gosselin has been.
I have been along time critic of these parents but I stand behind Jon's twitter today....This is not a situation for the public arena. Just because the ratings have gone down the toilet...that is TLC's fault.
~Irene~
"wayward said... Jon, silence on this could translate to some as guilt or truth."
Hi wayward, I respectfully disagree with this. As much as we ALL would love to see Kate challenged about her continual bashing of Jon, and her lies, it is NOT wise to fight this out in public. Even if the man did speak out, the "fans" would still think he is guilty.
Jon was wrong when he dissed Kate on tv last year, and he knows that now. Kate has CONTINUALLY thrown Jon under the bus, even when she claimed to be a "high road taker". The very day she made this claim, an interview by People was released and Kate ripped Jon but good. Jon is right, this WILL hurt the kids. And sooner or later this WILL come back to bite the parent who keeps doing this.
I would love to see a GAG order put on Kate. I wish Jon had a good lawyer who could stop this public display of stupidity.
Admin -
Could you add Jon's tweeted statement to this new blog post?
Some think Jon is being silent and haven't seen his tweet regarding Kate's behavior on R&K.
Thanks.
Also behind you, Jon--always have been. Having worked in the legal field for many years, I know that it's impossible for even a good attorney to go up against the corporate powerhouse that is TLC. It is all encompassing. You don't need to be choosing your attorney...you don't have the background to do that successfully. Your best hope is through Paul Petersen. I also know you have your hands tied by TLC...only someone like Paul Petersen, with his connections, will be able to help you when the time is right. I'm sure you are doing the best you can for the time being, and you don't owe us or anyone else an explanation. Don't let Kate goad you into getting defensive and going off the deep end. Anyone with a minimum of a 2-digit I.Q. has her number.
Did Kate happen to mention who was watching her 8 kids while she was off to R & K? Obviously, Jon had the big blue van so he had the kids in his care. This is such a sad mess. What kind of mother bashes the father of her kids on national tv? She is sickening to the max. We must stand up for what is right for the kids. Jon doesn't get a pass for starting this J & K plus 8 with Kate, but on film he certainly treated her with more respect than he ever received from her. This most recent public bashing is on tape for eternity. This is wrong! She is desperate for attention, both good and bad.
When celebs (faux or real) they usually have a list of "subjects" that are off limits (probably the bodyguard, filming in heat, etc) but when she said she was sole supporter, AC at least said "so you are saying Jon doesn't support the kids" she basically said NO. AC should have followed up with the "well what about reports of him paying you 25k a month" and let her squirm. Kelly probably would have deflected the question and they would have gone to commercial.
Then when she said that "she waits by the phone for the call to come home" AC should have asked her "so have they done that while he had custody?" It's not that she doesn't get asked tough questions, it's that she is allowed to deflect or simply ignore the question. The public isn't stupid and a majority of her "sane" fans are probably disgusted at how she tossed Jon under the wheels because they know it's not right and I'm betting they will not be watching her much longer.
Well, we all know that Merideth can NEVER really interview Kate again with journalistic integrity, BUT maybe she can get Kate on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire. Then they can both bash Jon. Kate can blame Jon for her show being cancelled and now she is down on her luck..boo hoo. You wait, I bet SHE will blame Jon for the demise of the show and never accept that maybe it was her big mouth that did the show in (just like her marriage).
Jon,
What you are doing is the smartest and best thing: lying low. Not talking to the media. Just doing the best you can, seeing your kids and not bashing Kate in kind.
Believe me, the people that count--your kids--know and appreciate the difference on a very deep level they can't even verbalize.
The more she bashes you and the more you stay quiet, the more she looks like a bully and an asshole. She is finding the sympathy angle harder and harder to come by the longer she stays in the spotlight, and for good reason: she deserves no sympathy.
In fact, sitting here thinking about it, I can't come up with a SINGLE reason to feel sorry for Kate Gosselin. Not one. Normally I'd say well, she has EIGHT kids (LOL, I have one and like it that way), but she WANTED loads of kids. She WANTED the attention, so can't feel sorry for her there. Besides that, many people feel that children are a blessing and to her they seem like moneymakers and/or pains in her ass. Can't respect or feel sorry for that.
She's divorced, yep, but who wanted that? Oh yeah, she did.
Most people see that there's no reason to feel sorry for her, in fact quite the opposite. She created this life. She wanted all of this and now that public interest is waning, she's got to drum up drama.
No sympathy.
Hang in there, Jon. Just keep doing what you're doing. The thing with TLC WILL end someday. Even co-parenting with Kate will end in 12 years and then the good foundation you laid down with those kids will pay off in many ways as you have a good, loving relationship with them. I watched that show back in the day--I noticed who actually rolled up his sleeves and took care of the kids. They noticed too, trust me.
Jon, I have liked you from the beginning. You are a great father. How you have become trapped with the inability to protect yourself or your children from one person is hard to fathom. It is so blatantly wrong that Kate can go cry to the morning talk shows about what a horrible person and father you are over and over again and yet you can't speak your side. I believe that Kate has finally done something that is going to cause her house of cards to come crashing down on her. By telling the world she is a 'high road taker' and yet going on TV to basically accuse you of everything bad she could think of is going to backfire on her. Most of us now realize that if her lips are moving, she is lying. Good luck to you Jon. Do something to help your children. You may have to search, but you can find a way.
Jon is absolutely doing the right thing not responded to Kate even though I'm sure he wants to address each and every one of her lies.
Kate is trying to draw him into her territory and he won't go there, as he shouldn't.
I've practiced family law my whole career. One thing I advise parents in these situations with a hostile parent....don't go to their territory, don't be drawn to their arena. That is what they want, they want you to come on over. Whatever you do, don't.
Posters don't even try to goad Jon/Ellen into overreacting. Remember, that PS media ground him into dust once, and they won't hesitate to do it again. TLC has a bottomless pocket for Khate's legal fees.
Looks like Jon's in a good place w/Ellen.
B.S.
Jon can tweet all he wants but he too is allowing this charade to go on. If that were my ex on national television trashing me, there is no network nor an attorney that would keep me quiet and keep me from standing up for myself.
His silence is deafening and his refusal to take a stand and protect his children from this charade and abuse makes him as guilty as that bitch that is spewing her nonsense on national television.
Ellen and Jon can continue to tweet about how they are taking the high road but the fact is, Jon's being compensated by TLC for his silence and his agreement to keep exploiting the children, allowing his ex to exploit the children and as a result, he gets to be trashed on every morning show she appears on.
Not buying his taking the high road while allowing Kate to take the low road. If Jon had a set of stones, he would have stopped this long ago. Sorry thing is that the greenbacks more sway with the two of them than the emotional welfare of their kids.
I call B.S on this whole thing. It's all for publicity and keeping them in the public eye, both Jon and Kate.
The chemistry that made Jon and Kate Plus 8 work on television was that people tuned in to see Kate go ballistic on Jon and watched as he took it. That was the attraction. The kids were just an aside on the entire program.
People couldn't believe how much of a bitch this woman was and how tolerant Jon was with her mood swings. When Jon got thrown under the bus, (by choice) and then the divorce was the next train wreck, ( while Kate was deciding in NC last year, according to her own words), while Jon was home overseeing the kitchen overhaul, this entire thing has been scripted by TLC and it has kept both Jon and Kate on the front page.
This entire thing is a charade. It has been so, ever since TLC figured they had no more interesting episodes that would keep the public's interest with the kids and the family.
TLC, Jon, Kate, Figure 8 Productions and all those involved are laughing at each and everyone of us on the hundreds of blogs, both pro and con about the angst and love for these two frauds.
This entire show, family, scenario has been a fraud since January 2009 and the ensuing drama has all been scripted. Trust me on this. There is no way those children were screaming that day in the van because Jon was leaving.
There is NO way, those children are happy sleeping in sleeping bags in a one bedroom apartment for two, three or 4 days for visitation. There is absolutely NO way, those kids are being picked up at the end of the driveway for visitation while there so happens to be the one and only photographer there to capture the staged pick ups.
This is sooooooo staged it makes I Dream of Jeanie episodes look like real Reality television.
You guys, we've all been punked by these two and the more we blog, the more they punk us. I'm telling you all that this is so staged, the only losers besides us, for taking it to heart, are the children of these two losers that continue to put them on the front line so the two of them can continue to milk the money train.
Get real. This is such a farce.
Sounds like Anderson did what he could...he's such a skilled interviewer, you know he had her number. Probably just hard to grill someone on the Regis and Kelly show, it's supposed to be light hearted and funny.
Which is another reason Kate will never transition onto prime time TV. People who watch Regis and Kelly do not tune in for a sob story...they want to laugh. This fact is lost on her, she can't keep selling the same woeful tale year after year. Celebrities with longevity have more than good looks...they are charming, funny, and have great charisma. Kate has none of this, I think she will be fading soon!
Angie,
You are right, Jon shouldn't allow himself to be slandered by Kate, but he does, continually, right? Why? Why does Jon do that?
Judy,
Is Jon fighting for the kids? I haven't seen or heard any evidence of that. He starts something and never follows it thru? Path of least resistance for Jon is his pattern.
I don't buy this TLC corporate crap. He had a contract. He broke it. They broke him by giving him his allowance. How many attorneys has he had now?
And remember, he stills get paid by this corporation. If Jon wanted it to stop he could have done it. But where would he get his money?
Tamara, I totally agree.
No one watches Regis & Kally to listen to a negative, boorish sob-sister. She did the same thing on Ellen, of all shows. Ellen? You think people watch Ellen to her your tale of woe Kate? It's a comedy show, you tone-deaf loser. No one cares about how hard your life is (what a joke, by the way). Ellen is not Oprah; not that Oprah would find you interesting either. Whine in front of a mirror. Nobody else cares, you humorless bitch.
Better yet, take your white trash self to Jerry Springer. He loves dealing with hateful, low-class, vile scum.
Admin, question? Someone here made the comment..could Jon possibly be testifying at the Rep. Murt hearing this mo.? IS that a hearing where 'one' could be summoned for testify, as in he would have no choice but to or is that only in a court of law? I have a feeling he can't be summoned, but I wanted to hear what you say. I guess I want to believe SO badly, that Kate's day of reckoning is coming.
There is NO way, those children are happy sleeping in sleeping bags in a one bedroom apartment for two, three or 4 days for visitation.
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Kelly - I think it's entirely possible and probable that the kids are happy doing just that. (assuming there are no cameras). Having a slumber party with mommy and/or daddy, what young child wouldn't love that?
Just curious, what brought you back from your self-imposed Gosselin-blogging exile? I'm being totally sincere, no snark intended .
Kelly said...
TLC, Jon, Kate, Figure 8 Productions and all those involved are laughing at each and everyone of us on the hundreds of blogs, both pro and con about the angst and love for these two frauds.
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Kelly, I too have worried the same thing ever since Jon let the kids go back to filming. I've got a 'time limit' on this whole thing (in my head) and if Jon doesn't have something "up his sleeve", and soon, then I'm giving up.
If and I say if, the kids are truly complaining about the sleeping bag accommodations I would figure they heard their mom making derogatory comments about it so they think it is bad. IF she were saying the right things they may think of it as fun.
My grandkids prefer to sleep on the floor when they visit even though we have beds and couches they could use. They care more about just being with me .
Jon is trying to live within his limited means. It is all in Kate's head that they kids have a problem sleeping at his house, why are they screaming for him if they hate it there? Kids don't known the difference, all they know is they are with Daddy.
Only in Kate's head do the kids "need" a mansion to be comfortable. This is all to justify her own excess.
Kate wants him to pay more child support, Kate wants him to spend more money on more bedrooms. Kate wants him to visit away from the home, but wants his place to be bigger. The guy CANNOT win.
Well, people have seen the smiles and joy when these kids' Dad have been with them and seen them beg him not to leave them at the house with Kate. as for the kids calling Kate to come home, perhaps they might be getting discipline such as taking turns or learning they are not entitled to everything...lacking in Mommy Dearest's home. Kids of divorce like to play one parent against the other, I'm sure the children call Jon too. Bad mouthing a parent or trying to gain sympathy by trashing a parent to the public...is very foolish, Kate. Trolling for cash or viewers, like usual? The narcissism and personality disorders in Kate Gosselin is progressing. TLC is playing a very dangerous game by keeping this NARCISSISTIC soul snuffer appearing in public forums.
Jon, please get counseling for your kids. Their mother is doing great harm to them.
Also Kate is completely missing the fact that kids aim to please.
Just because the kids might call her on a visit with Jon, or they miss her or whatever bs she is spewing, what makes her think they're not just telling her what they know she wants to hear?
She has made it crystal clear she hates Jon. The kids are not stupid. Mommy must want to hear us say bad things about Daddy and say how much we miss her. Kids want to please, especially kids who are victims of parental alienation. See post above.
Kelly, I'm sensing the same as you.
But, if we walk away, and the heat is taken off Kate & TLC, the deception and distruction of those eight little lives will continue. Who knows how many laws will be enacted that protect children and their participation on t.v shows and motion pictures because we chose to stand up for the innocents.
That's why, more than ever we have to keep a
magnifying glass on this monster & TLC.
She and TLC will fall hard eventually- of this I am positive.
Who is Khate trying to kid? Jon would be in jail if he wasn't making his child support payments. $20,000 a month is a lot of money that anyone else could live very well on and she acts like it is chump change found "digging in the sofa for change to pay to the mortgage" (her infamous begging line). And what was all that hand flapping and dancing around in her seat trying to look all sexy and antsy and lying like a dog. She acts like she is on some sort of stimulant. I wish Dr. Glass would look at that video and do a commentary on it. It made me sick. I wish I hadn't watched. She is far more evil than any of us had ever imagined. Isn't there a freedom of information act that allows access to public records to see if he is indeed making his payments. Did she not throw down the gauntlet for someone to expose her lies by pronouncing on TV that she is the sole provider and that she sits at home waiting which one to call to say that they want to come home. When is she ever home. The nannies pick the kids up when they return. TLC should be ashamed of themselves. They don't have to stoop that low to save a dying show. The show died when they kicked Jon to the curb. Now we know why they got rid of him - he wouldn't have allowed the out and out abuse that we are seeing now.
Just another voice in support. As I remember it - the kids were not to be moved, but the parents were.Perhaps you could find a lawyer to that back to court or however it's done. The house is not "Mine all Mine" - it's their's. Thee should not have to she shuttled back and forth. Especially an apartment. We all know whose fault that is and it's not you.
Hang in there.
Enh.
Mom and Dad divorce. Dad gets younger girlfriends, Mom gets fake nails and extensions. Dad gets bloated, Mom raves about being an independant woman but always complains about doing it by herself. Mom and Dad bad mouth each other. Kids are caught in the middle and shuffled back and forth.
How is this different from 75% of households in America?
Why is there even a show about this anymore? Why does anyone even care?
Yeah, I know, we care about the kids, the kids, tv crews, exploitation, the kids. There are a ton of kids in this country who are going through the same thing right now, they just aren't being filmed. So maybe if we'd all realize that these people are not worth the effort they will get off tv, we can stop talking about them, and they can suffer out their disfunctional family life in private like regular people.
Johanna said: "Why does anyone even care?"
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I hope I never live long enough to see the day when America becomes a society that just doesn't care. If it comes to the point that compassion is no longer a part of the fiber of the American people, it will be a dark day in history. This nation was built on a foundation of genuine concern and empathy for one another, leading to a peaceful and successful existence that is truly worth living.
As children, our needs are basic and are met by people other than ourselves, and it's easy to believe others always have the answers for us. What if there were no answers -- no one to look out for us? We can become bitter or better because of our experiences as children. Will these kids become bitter adults because all of the grown-ups in their lives turned the other way? All one has to do is to look at the close-up photo of little Joel that Administrator has posted under the lollipop heading. Look into his eyes as he receives the broken candy, and if someone still can say, "so maybe if we'd all realize that these people are not worth the effort..." then I guess there's really nothing more to say. It would be at this point that we've witnessed the deterioration of the very character of our nation.
I apologize for the sermon. It is Sunday, and ironically enough, the lesson in church today was "Compassion and caring without ceasing."
Julianna, Amen to your sermon.
The question really isn't why do you all care, but more, why WOULDN'T you care about children and their happiness, privacy and protection?
Enh.
Mom and Dad divorce. Dad gets younger girlfriends, Mom gets fake nails and extensions. Dad gets bloated, Mom raves about being an independant woman but always complains about doing it by herself. Mom and Dad bad mouth each other. Kids are caught in the middle and shuffled back and forth.
How is this different from 75% of households in America?
Why is there even a show about this anymore? Why does anyone even care?
Yeah, I know, we care about the kids, the kids, tv crews, exploitation, the kids. There are a ton of kids in this country who are going through the same thing right now, they just aren't being filmed. So maybe if we'd all realize that these people are not worth the effort they will get off tv, we can stop talking about them, and they can suffer out their disfunctional family life in private like regular people.
Well, people have seen the smiles and joy when these kids' Dad have been with them and seen them beg him not to leave them at the house with Kate. as for the kids calling Kate to come home, perhaps they might be getting discipline such as taking turns or learning they are not entitled to everything...lacking in Mommy Dearest's home. Kids of divorce like to play one parent against the other, I'm sure the children call Jon too. Bad mouthing a parent or trying to gain sympathy by trashing a parent to the public...is very foolish, Kate. Trolling for cash or viewers, like usual? The narcissism and personality disorders in Kate Gosselin is progressing. TLC is playing a very dangerous game by keeping this NARCISSISTIC soul snuffer appearing in public forums.
Jon, please get counseling for your kids. Their mother is doing great harm to them.
Also behind you, Jon--always have been. Having worked in the legal field for many years, I know that it's impossible for even a good attorney to go up against the corporate powerhouse that is TLC. It is all encompassing. You don't need to be choosing your attorney...you don't have the background to do that successfully. Your best hope is through Paul Petersen. I also know you have your hands tied by TLC...only someone like Paul Petersen, with his connections, will be able to help you when the time is right. I'm sure you are doing the best you can for the time being, and you don't owe us or anyone else an explanation. Don't let Kate goad you into getting defensive and going off the deep end. Anyone with a minimum of a 2-digit I.Q. has her number.
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