"They are acutely aware their life is markedly different from their peers. They are six, and ten, and have to deal with the paparazzi! They can’t visit a public place without a crowd gathering to stare or people snapping pictures with cell phones."
Jon tweeted today further clarifying why he doesn't want the children filmed anymore. He correctly points out that it is not for a child this young to decide whether it is in their best interest to have his or her life filmed. As we have said many times, if children made all their life decisions they would never go to school and eat candy all day. That's why there are parents, to guide them to learn how to make good choices.
On Tuesday 19th October 2010, @jongosselin1 said:
Due to the overwhelming amount of questions, statements, false statements in the media, I would like to clarify a few things. First and foremost, for people who did not watch Jon & Kate Plus 8, I stated years ago, and on television, that I no longer wanted to film and wanted my privacy back. This is not a decision I made lightly or without weighing all the factors involved. The negative effects on my family was my greatest concern and far outweigh any monetary gain we received. Today, my children are much older than when we first started. They are acutely aware their life is markedly different from their peers. They are six, and ten, and have to deal with the paparazzi! They can’t visit a public place without a crowd gathering to stare or people snapping pictures with cell phones.
Whether the children want to film or not is completely irrelevant. Children rely on the guidance of the adults in their life to ensure their best interest. Left to their own most children would not eat properly, visit the dentist, or complete their homework. Do you think a child would choose a day on the beach instead of attending school? Of course. Is this the best thing for them? Is it the child’s decision to make? Of course not.
I am acutely aware of the mistakes I made in 2009 and I am ashamed of the choices I made. I have apologized to Kate, my family, and to my friends. Through counseling I have learned to own my actions. My goal is to move forward in a positive direction.
Lastly, my children have experienced a lot of life changes in a short period of time; new home, new school, parents divorced, increased media attention, and much more. Obviously it would be short-sighted to declare that all of their current struggles are attributed to one factor. These multiple changes are exactly why I feel they need privacy, stability, and security. Filming and displaying their private lives at this time is not in their best interest.
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The new talk show "The Talk" premiered yesterday. It was the talk show with Julie Chen and Lea Rhemini and others that Khate-Kart-Take was trying to audition for but got REJECTED because Khate-Kart-Take is such a vile troll!
Go Team Jon + 8.
Very interesting comments.
This flies directly in the face of Kate and her bullshit super-mom image. Jon is implying that Kate does not have the kids' best interest in mind because she wants to continue filming. Masterful. He said it without actually saying it.
I think Kate has convinced herself it is in their best interest to:
1. have money
and 2. go on trips.
She has even said herself not all of this has been good, that there have been drawbacks. She admits it. But in her twisted mind she would do it again. Her idea of what is truly in a child's best interest is really quite frightening. Jon made a mistake. He's making it right now. When is Kate going to admit mistakes were made? I find it disturbing she can't even get to a place where she's saying if I had to do it over again I'm not sure I would. At least Jon has gotten there.
Whether or not Jon wrote that I think whoever is helping him now is definitely on the right track. Go Team Kids!
I think the message that he tweeted is relatable to every parent (maybe except Khate) and not sure how any tabloid can see fault with it.
He has never been a douche bag nor has he ever been a deadbeat dad. I have never believed that and I never will. I have seen some non involved dads and he is definitey not one of them.
Bravo Jon!
The irony is if Kate joined forces with Jon, they would gain MORE fame and notoriety (the GOOD kind) and in the long run, probably have more financial stability (TLC lawsuit).
Jon is doing the right thing and his efforts have my 100% support. Contrary to what Kate fans feel, this isn't about seeing Jon win/Kate win, this is about seeing the kids win!
It seems apparent that Jon is not writing these Tweets himself, which is a good thing. He is not speaking directly of custody issues, so there is no violation of any gag order. He seems to be taking responsibility for some of his horrendous behavior or last year. Admitting one's mistakes goes a long way with the public --just ask Kobe Bryant! I never saw it confirmed that he went to his last hearing without counsel, but this and the previous Tweet indicate that he is being represented. When all is said and done, Jon will come out on top in all of this.
I might be reading too much into it but why does he say filming and displaying their private lives at this time is not in their best interest? It almost sounds like the door is open to the possibility that it might be okay later on.
But it's good to hear him admit that he's faced the reality of it all and the harm its caused. I'm sure we'll never see a statement like that from Kate.
There is hope for the G8 yet.
Although this comes from Jon it doesn't sound like Jon. I'm not knocking him, I'm just glad that he's got someone with brains working with him. He is saying what needs to be said and he's not (directly) knocking Kate in the process. It's very professoinal and well written. Someone is advising him well. TLC may have a gag order on him and ROL may not give him the platform that it gives Kate, but he's making his feelings known. Go Jon!
The interesting question is, when will the mainstream media pick this up? For the love of everything mundane and meant to create spin, the media prattled on and on over pablum such as, "Is Kate still wearing her wedding ring?". "Will Kate change her hairdo?".
Such diversions. Such subterfuge.
The real issue has always been whether or not filming little lives is healthy and beneficial morally, physically, emotionally etc. But, has the media talked about that? A fraction-with a big shout out to Lisa Ling who is possibly the only person in the media without an agenda, and who spoke from the gut.
I've wondered about why this is, from time to time, and I have a feeling it's because Kate, being a mother of HOM, is somehow beyond our reproach.
Granted, very few people on earth have the challenge of raising multiple- multiples in such high numbers. So, how can we, the rest of the mere mortals, object to the manner in which Kate and Jon, for a long time together, decided how the children will be provided for? After all, they have many, many needs which must be met.
According to Kate, and many people who believe her constant mantra of "we can't go back", there is simply no other way, zero options. They are locked into this unwavering path in life. All of them. Kate even has the audacity to support her view by offering up her children as conspirators in this reality show circus. The complicit actions of the children in no way reflects an ability to understand the impact that all this invasive filming will have on their lives
It's utter BS, yet why has there been such silence?
I think it's because motherhood is sacred in our society, and to challenge Kate is to challenge mothers in general. Unfair, I know, but it seems too close to most media personalities to "go there". Mother Teresa, she's not, but you have to admit there is some sort of "sacred cow" aspect about her and how she's been handled in the media.
She's multiparously untouchable.
Enough navel-gazing on Kate!
I'm sure hoping that Jon's thoughfully-expressed comments do not land him in hot water, and that they do not fall on blind eyes or deaf ears.
On the second to last episode of J&K + 8 (I think) they were showing all of Kate's meltdowns (like where the whole family went to the toy store and Kate yells at Jon in the middle of the store)and Kate actually apologized for acting that way. She said she was wrong to act like that, but she had been super stressed and just didn't think about it at the time. I guess I had sorta hoped that showing those meltdowns would help Kate see that SHE drove Jon away, and that she'd act nicer after that. Guess not. She's still the same old Kate who doesn't care about anyone but herself. If the kids want to stop filming, too bad. Mommy wants it so she can be famous.
On another note, I had gotten some biographies on Mary-Kate and Ashley at our library a while ago, and in one of the books it stated their parents as saying whenever they didn't want to film, they would stop. But the Olsen twins loved filming and acting and obviously, made a career out of it. Too bad Kate isn't like that. She claims when they want to stop filming, then they will, but obviously she's lying. Only when SHE wants to stop filming (which is most likely NEVER), then she will.
Kate will never admit her mistakes Admin! In her warped mind, she is perfect & all-knowing. Kate is nothing but a manipulative taker, a loser, a non-mother who thinks of nothing but her own well-being above her own children. Jon is owning up to the fact that he screwed up, but who can blame him? He was tied down to that woman for how many years, basically in a contract for the last few years of their marriage just so Kate could become famous & ride those kids to the brink of fame. Well, it seems the gravy train is over Kate. You are a reality has-been, like most become. Was it fun? Did you enjoy ruining your kids young lives?
Good for you Jon for speaking out against the machine! I applaud him for this. His kids have finally gotten someone that is going to fight for them. I don't think he'll stop until Kate is crying in her organic cheerios.
Kate's motto is
GOING AND GETTING
God be with you, Jon.
May you find comfort in knowing that you have MANY people supporting your decision.
You are your children's "Knight in Shining Armour". Don't you ever forget that.
The Gosselin 8 have made enough money to buy back what's left of their privacy/childhood. The question is who do they make the check out to.
Go Jon!
Yes Jon! Finally saying what should have been said a long time ago. Even if he has some PR rep penning this statement, it's what he's wanted to say all along. Remember him fumbling with that Como guy, with Nancy Grace or even Larry King?
What a candid and refreshing statement; I truly wish him well in his endeavors and hope that at some future point he is successful in shutting down the crazy train. Say what you will about Jon Gosselin, and yes he certainly went through his own acting out period in the divorce and post-divorce stage of his life, but the Jon that we currently see seems to have grown and understands what he needs to move forward. Was he immature? Yes, he certainly was, but at no time did he ever exhibit the narcissistic behavior that his ex-wife did, and still does. Perhaps it is the influence of his young girlfriend, who does seem way more normal than others he has been with, but whatever it is, this Jon is making the right moves for the sake of his children. And for that I have to say - good job, wish you the best.
Yay Jon!!!! Keep fighting!
I think Kate has convinced herself it is in their best interest to:
1. have money
and 2. go on trips.
She also knows this is her ticket to fame as well. It led to books, appearances, talk shows, and DWTS. Problem is for Kate aside from the kids she ain't all that. She has been described as rude, arrogant, and a host of other negative things. TLC knows the best bet for Kate and them is continue filming the kids. Had they not we would have seen a Twist of Kate.
Go Jon
I totally agree with your comment Admin. I, too find it very disturbing that she has been incapable thus far to take any ownership for this side show that has become the kids life. She takes no accountability for any of her seriously flawed actions that have resulted in harm to her kids. I am so proud of Jon for being a real father and man.(even with TLC's boots on his neck)
She not only has repeatedly said that with hindsight that she would do it all again but has repeatedly said "I can't go back only forward" and forward to Kate means TLC should film as much and as often as they can. For the kids benefit, of course.
AuntieAnn said...
I might be reading too much into it but why does he say filming and displaying their private lives at this time is not in their best interest? It almost sounds like the door is open to the possibility that it might be okay later on.
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I take that to mean that Jon thought filming was okay when they were little. JMO.
Obviously Jon didn't write this. I'm sure it was Sylvia Lafair, remember his life coach? She seems to have her head on straight and knows what she's doing. Good for Jon, great statement. Here is the life coach link...
http://www.icelebz.com/gossips/jon_gosselin_writing_his_life_story/
There's a new Facebook Page supporting Jon & The 8
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/TeamJonPlus8
AuntieAnn said... I might be reading too much into it but why does he say filming and displaying their private lives at this time is not in their best interest? It almost sounds like the door is open to the possibility that it might be okay later on.
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I noticed that too. I'm thinking maybe that was to throw the sheeple a bone, pacify them somewhat.
When Jon said something to the effect that 'filming this time isn't good for the kids', he seemed to be referring to the fact that when the show originally began they were babies and the twins under school age. NOW they are 6 and 10 and KNOW what is going on in their lives. However, I don't buy that they cannot go back to just living regular lives. The tups are no longer so cutesy, and if she didn't dress them alike and call attention to who they are, and always make them go out in a 'pack', people wouldn't be as apt to make such a fuss. None of the tup boys look alike and only 2 of the girls look a lot alike, so they don't stand out as much except for the identical outfits, being in the pack and, of course, her attention drawing clothes (and her diva-ish actions). It would be nice if she could take a cue from us, we've gotten over her, it would be nice if she could too.
No one seems to sufficiently address the impact on these children of the fact that they attract attention only because there are six of them. Each one as an individual has no characteristics that would make them the focus of public attention that they are. How are they to develop their own individual identities? Will each one feel like nothing without the other five? Will each one harbor resentment against the other five, because the existence of the other five led to the distortions in their lives. Will they ever be able to have enough individual relationships with adults during their growing up years for each to develop their own individual sense of self?
I want to know why does Kate object to letting them go through a very new divorce in privacy? It's obvious Jon and Kate do not get along. It's obvious this is hard on the children--does she deny the children were screaming when Jon dropped them off? No matter WHY you think they were crying, the point was they were upset.
What is Kate's objection to allowing these poor kids to go through this difficult time in private? Why are trips and money worth more to her than her children's emotional stability?
And I also noted that Jon did not discuss the case or Kate. He has every right to blow the whistle on this chirade. Kate will never get the difference between what she did--throwing him under the bus, and what Jon is doing: WHISTLEBLOWING.
"Mother Teresa, she's not, but you have to admit there is some sort of "sacred cow" aspect about her ..."
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Sacred, no. Cow, yes.
Whether the children want to film or not is completely irrelevant. Children rely on the guidance of the adults in their life to ensure their best interest.
I think I love this bit of his statement the best. On top of being absolutely correct it totally thumbs its nose at both Kate and the sheeple. Who cares if the kids want to film (watching the show though I'd disagree, especially where Mady is concerned!), it's not their decision especially at their current ages.
It's one thing to film toddlers whose entire world view is centered upon themselves, and to film what truly happens at home without it having much of an effect on how they would live with or without cameras present. It's quite another for the filming to decide how and when things happen, and to be stalked by paparazzi.
The filming of these children crossed the line quite awhile ago - about the time Jon quit his "job" and they chose to make the show their only source of income. While I applaud Jon's efforts to change things now he was complicit in starting the ball rolling. Kate however, I believe, holds the blame for insisting on continuing the past two years even when she herself has stated the children are experiencing emotional distress. Though I suspect she puts the full blame of that on Jon and not on the constant invasion of privacy, disruption of routine and separation from one or both parents for extended periods of time that the children are subjected to on a regular basis.
Off Topic: On yesterday's View Barbara Walters channeled Nancy Grace and lit into Levi Johnson like he was the personification of evil. While I'm no fan of his I found it extremely hypocritical of Barbara Walters to accuse him of being a fame whore with nothing to back up his infamy beyond having sex, yet she repeatedly interviewed and kissed Kate Gosselin's backside and STILL defends and applauds Kate when her name comes up in discussion. While I'm not ignorant when it comes to the tactics interviewers use to ensure they're #1 on newsmakers speed dial it still stunned me. But it also gave me a bit of hope - if Barbara can still go on the attack maybe there's a chance she'll one day turn on Kate and give us a REAL interview.
Love Jon's post. Perfectly put. Regarding the 'at this time' statement, I think he means that filming is not good for them NOW. It may have been ok at one point in time (in the beginning when they were broke, the parents were still together and the kids could still live life normally outside of filming). That's all changed. Now they are not broke, the kids' stability has been rocked by moving, divorce, paparazzi and fan attention, and rampant criticism of their parents' decisions, past and present. Yep, Jon has made mistakes and us trying to move on and do better. Kate, meanwhile, has never made a mistake (roll eyes) and will continue to exploit her kids and seek fame until somene stops her. Here's hoping Jon continues to fight for his kids. At least they will always know he tried.
I am very optimistic that the tide is turning for Jon and regardless if the mainstream media picks this story up or not, the important thing is that his kids know that their Dad is looking our for their best interests. At the end of the day, Jon doesn't have to answer to the media, bloggers or even the courts. He has to answer to his kids and rest of his family members and himself. He needs to be able to look at himself in the mirror and know that he did everything he could to stand up for his kids and protect them. My hats off to Jon, all the way.
Spot on post, cudos to you Jon and keep fighting. I do believe you will prevail because you are on the side of truth and represent the best interests of your children.
Did anyone see that the Doctor that implated the Octomom is on trial for being irresponsible in these actions? I don't know the exact charge but he may lose his medical license. There is talk of regulating doctor's implanting multiple embryos.
AuntieAnn said... I might be reading too much into it but why does he say filming and displaying their private lives at this time is not in their best interest? It almost sounds like the door is open to the possibility that it might be okay later on.
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I noticed that too. I'm thinking maybe that was to throw the sheeple a bone, pacify them somewhat.
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No I think it was to justify why he signed off on filming in the past. I suspect that it was the fact that he shut down filming last fall, signed off on filming this summer and then is now protesting their being filmed again that caused the Judge to rule that the kids could continue to be filmed. Regardless of his feelings at this point in time, Jon has shown erratic behavior in the past in regards to his arguments about filming the kids and the court doesn't like inconsistency. We all make mistakes, but unfortunately the consequences can affect not only ourselves but others as well and can be long lasting. It takes very little to lose your reputation (and the faith and trust that comes with a good rep) and it's a long road to earn it back.
Jon's best bet to help his children get off the show is to work with A Minor Consideration. I have said before that Jon could repackage himself as a child advocate if he truly wanted to. I hope that Jon is still getting therapy and is finally growing up. Only time will tell.
And admin, Kate may not change but thank you for what you said. I thought it was very positive and constructive advice.
Admin said,
"... why does Kate object to letting them go through a very new divorce in privacy?"
Almost since the beginning of this charade (J&KPlus8), it seemed as if Hate's decisions were based on her very obvious anger and resentment of the 'tups for the simple fact that they were born. Their boon was their bane; the same thing that gave her the life she'd craved beyond her wildest dreams was the exact thing that gave rise to all of her exhaustion and self-pity. She'd wanted "one more" but got six. I've always thought she was responsible for manipulating the fertility doctor and probably had a secret stash of extra Clomid; she certainly had a plan that maybe Jon wasn't even privy to.
Typical of a narcissist, as soon as she had what she wanted she didn't want it anymore. It was too hard, too exhausting, too much work even with all the help because she hated letting "all those strangers" into the inner sanctum. She resented the familiarity with which the helpers represented her life to the outsiders, the "little people" (us). And she resented the hell out of WHO brought it all on in the first place - the six babies.
It was almost as if Hate had to pretend every nth degree of "exhaustion" (that never existed since she never did shit for anyone except herself) as a cover up for the fact that she did this ON PURPOSE, to ensure no one ever suspected it was all carefully planned years earlier by Take; if she bitched about it and complained enough, no one could possibly think she'd had a hand in it.
Ironically, it blew up in her face when reality hit her and it was all too much work. That's when it became evident to me that she really didn't like children, even her own children, and try as she might to fake it, she couldn't stand to be around them. Every decision she makes is somehow devoted to "punishing them" for being born, for making her life miserable (SHE makes herself unhappy and miserable, not her children.).
I don't think Hate's biggest fear is losing her "fame and fortune," no, I'm convinced it's losing her 24/7 nannies.
He forgot to mention the ever-revolving nannies. That has to be a very big change for them not having their dad as their primary caretaker and the nanny flavor of the month instead. I feel so sorry for the kids and I am glad that Jon is stepping up to the plate and taking his position as their father.
Jon, I support you 100%. I believe that you love those kids and are trying to do right by them. I LOVE what you are saying in your tweets, your sincerity is palpable. Kudos for admitting to past mistakes and trying to move on and make things right. But PLEASE, be careful. Do not give Kate any ammunition to hurt you in court, because she will try to. The woman is nothing if not vindictive. Try to keep quiet and continue to be the fine father that you are. Everyone makes mistakes. Do not let yours cripple you in court, as I feel that you have pure intentions here. Be careful. Do not break any rules. And please ask Ellen to be careful too. Again, she appears to have the best of intentions and clearly is a lovely person and loves you and the kids. It would be heartbreaking for you not to prevail on November 30th. Be very discrete. And best wishes; thank God those kids have you.
Jon's definitely on the right track now. I just hope he doesn't do something stupid and screw it up this time. I always thought he could have the upper hand if he would just calm down, get a job, and stop talking to the media. For once in his life he needs to stand up to Kate. She's been calling the shots for much too long now with him. He has always cowered to her scream and demand. I hope he's finally over that!
Sorry if this sounds dense, but I thought Kate actually WANTED and planned for multiples so she could be famous. Why does she hate her kids then?
"He forgot to mention the ever-revolving nannies. That has to be a very big change for them not having their dad as their primary caretaker and the nanny flavor of the month instead."
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I think Jon is trying to explain his feelings regarding the filming of his children. I'm sure there are a lot of other things that are upsetting to him but that isn't the message he's trying to get across, nor should it be.
Administrator said "And I also noted that Jon did not discuss the case or Kate. He has every right to blow the whistle on this chirade."
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I hope this means that Kate's nasty lawyer can't threaten to sue him over this statement too. Admin, can you clarify this for the lawsuit-challenged, (like myself)?
Good for Jon for speaking up on his kids behalf. TLC and Kart have to remember that those are his kids and he has the right to speak up for them and look out on their behalf. I am so glad that he is moving forward and realizes that people with their cell phones and those that gawk at his kids are hurting them. Team Jon!
I would be more sympathetic to Jon if he 1. didn't sign off on the filming to begin with last spring - agreed to be paid off by TLC remember? and 2. if he had joined with Paul Peterson 2 years ago, or even a year ago, or even now! to help get the kids off TV. This would be free representation for Jon and I have not heard he's taken advantage of it.
I have to stop reading IW. They're making me crazy! They talk out their butt cheeks and claim it as fact whether it is or not. Now they're saying Jon has a photo album of the kids on Twitter that any of the media can access and copy. I didn't register for it but I doubt you can see his photos. Does anyone know? I think it's just a sponsor he probably gets paid for endorsing. It's called Yogile. Now they're complaining because he Twittered he had pizza with the kids! They say he's invading their privacy. If that's the case my grandkids are going to hate me because I am always posting stuff and photos on my Facebook about them. They're grabbing at straws. Losers!
I don't see anything in his statement they could sue him over. He was careful not to bash Kate or discuss the case. A parent is always allowed to speak up when they feel their children are being damaged. It would be against public policy to to try to stop such disclosures. We want to encourage people to speak up when abuse is going on.
Interesting when he said that they are 6 an 1 are very much aware that they are different than their peers. Exactly, children don't want to be different, they want to be treated the same as their peers. Paps sitting outside of the bus stop snapping daily photo s of their mother must be embarrassing for them, but she will never get it.
For pity sake. Jon twittered it was pizza night he never said the kids were even there. He never said anything about the kids. Even if he did it's not ok for Jon to tweet about pizza but ok for Kate to film them all summer long? Hypocrisy.
"Even if he did it's not ok for Jon to tweet about pizza but ok for Kate to film them all summer long? Hypocrisy."
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Doesn't it scare the hell out of you to think what it WOULD take to make sheeple change their views about filming those kids?
SmileyGrl752 said... Sorry if this sounds dense, but I thought Kate actually WANTED and planned for multiples so she could be famous. Why does she hate her kids then?
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Because she never thought she'd actually have to CARE for them. She just wanted them to make herself famous. She wanted fame, not to be a "mother." Thus, the 4-hour-long afternoon naps (whether they needed them or not), and now the nannies ... all meant to keep them out of her hair. Kate doesn't want to be a caregiver; Kate wants to be a superstah.....
Smiley,
I was stating my opinion, based on watching their show, etc. from the beginning, and without using "IMO" as per Administrator's request last week.
Yes, Hate "wanted multiples so she could be famous" but I think she got more than she bargained for. She's a Nine Month Mother: loves the attention she gets when she's pregnant and infatuated with babies under twelve months old. By the time they can walk and say "NO!" the love affair is over.
AuntieAnn said:
Doesn't it scare the hell out of you to think what it WOULD take to make sheeple change their views about filming those kids?
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It scares more than the hell out of me. Two words come to mind: "Abduction" and "Pedophile."
Agreed, Fame Whore. Kate wanted the multiples for the fame, money, and adoration, but didn't think her plan through...she doesn't enjoy her children at all. She has never had to take care if them the way most parents do. There's always been someone there to pawn them off on: the nurses (paid for by the state of PA), kind volunteers, ex-friends like Beth, now-estranged family members like Kevin and Jodi, babysitter-friends like Nana Janet, the film crews, and of course, Jon. None of these people, with the exception of people like Nana Janet were paid by Kate. And of course, there's been the dozens of nannies to care for the kids once Kate cut out all of the people just listed above. Sad, since the people on the first list truly cared about the kids; the nannies probably not so much.
Kate seems to have an immature mind: she has ambitions, but doesn't want to work for them. Look at her DWTS' stint. She wanted very much to do the show and bragged that she intended to win. Then reality set in and Tony tried his best to teach her to dance. She was out-of-shape, inflexible, clumsy, and unlovely on the dance floor. Worse yet, she didn't even try to improve or learn how to dance. She appeared lazy, tired, disinterested, and dense as Tony tried his best to teach her, She tried to blame her lameness on: Tony, Jon and the custody case, the kids and the "20 out of 24" hours she spent caring for them, the travel, her nerves, the judges, etc. Kate seemed to really think she could just go out there and win even though she is unathletic, not bright and therefore slow to learn, and unwilling to work hard.
She couldn't force or pay someone to do the dancing for her and take the credit for it afterwards. She had to do the work herself, maybe for the first time ever. That's why she did so poorly, bitched so much about it and why people couldn't stand her on that show.
So far, Kate has gotten away with others caring for her kids and taking the credit. If she loses the nannies and actually has to be a mother to those kids, it won't be pretty. She has no previous experience.
on that show.
But if Kate had had a crystal ball, would she have taken the fertility drugs?
"If I could have looked into the future, I would not have done it," she admitted.
She hadn't thought how much she would have to do once she had her brood.
I find it disturbing that Kate wishes to take back the fertilty drug debacle, but won't take back the fact that she sold her children's privacy to the highest bidder.
So she wishes her children were never born, but since they were born hell if she'll take back the millions she siphoned off them at the expensive of their normal childhoods?
Also this is another example of the fans causing the bulk of the Gosselin children's problems, if not all their problems.
You never hear, someone who hates Kate came and snapped a bunch of pics of the kids. Nope, it's always the fans. It's the fans shouting they love Kate in the airport while she's trying to care for her kids (creepy), the fans bombarding them in NYC (double creepy), the fans pulling up in a tour bus alongside them to talk to them and take pics (triple creepy.) And the fans whom Steve called overzealous.
Fans, fans, fans. I see a patern here.
gotyournumberKate said...
I have to stop reading IW. They're making me crazy! They talk out their butt cheeks and claim it as fact whether it is or not. Now they're saying Jon has a photo album of the kids on Twitter that any of the media can access and copy. I didn't register for it but I doubt you can see his photos. Does anyone know? I think it's just a sponsor he probably gets paid for endorsing. It's called Yogile. Now they're complaining because he Twittered he had pizza with the kids!
It's simply not worth going to IW and giving them hits. They're nuts!
1. Jon did not say pizza with the kids - his tweet was: "jongosselin1 - Tonight was PIZZA NIGHT!!"
2. As for the Yogile photo album comment: The tweet said: "Been using Yogile lately for sharing my pictures with my family. It's really simple and user friendly. brought to you by http://spn.tw/tDG10" (the Yogile url)
I think you're right that he's simply sponsoring the Yogile site. There are public and private albums at Yogile. I did a search there and can't find a public album for Gosselin, Jon Gosselin, or jongosselin1, so unless he's given the media the url for his PRIVATE album, they can't see what's in it.
Here is the quote from the FAQ page at Yogile: The only people who can see your photo albums are those you have shared your album URL with or otherwise invited. You can also add a password for extra protection. Any albums you have shared in the public directory, though, are viewable by anyone on the site.
As is par for the course at IW -- they're misrepresenting, misleading, and lying to their devoted sheeple. It never ceases to amaze me how and why sheeple don't take the time to do their own simple research and find out the truth for themselves, but I guess that's what makes the sheeple, sheeple!
Exactly. The real facts are that Jon tweeted he ate pizza tonight. Nothing more, nothing less. Not one darn word about the children.
The real facts are that Jon tweeted about a service that is an online photo album. Nothing more, nothing less. In theory, I suppose you might put photos of your kids on there. Not one mention was ever made by Jon of putting photos of the kids on there. He only mentioned sharing it with "family." There is no public album. You're not allowed to put private photos on a private site to share with select family members? For pity sake.
The sheeple have no good argument to counter Jon's points (and it seems neither does silent Team Kate) so they have to misrepresent things like trying to make everyone believe Jon too is exploiting the kids. They do everything they accuse the tabloids of doing. And just a thought--do they see the hypocricy in accusing Jon of doing things like this? Are they saying it would be wrong to exploit their kids. I thought what Kate doing was good for them? Kate has certainly shared many family dinners with us on camera, as well as many photos. Heck she even filmed the family SELLING photos of the kids at a garage sale--gross. I really don't mind debate. I allow comments here that spark debate if they follow the rules. But you can't debate with someone misrepresenting the facts.
Just a quick note on "IMO", if you are making a statement like private schools are better than public, it's obvious it's your opinion. While the sheeple might disagree, it's not necessary for you to put IMO in front of everything that is obvious that it's an opinion. It's obvious the bulk of what is said here is opinion, I believe you and I understand that, the sheeple do not but it's not necessary to cater to them. And definitely IMO it is not necessary when you're making statements about how detrimental filming is for the children. Again, it's obvious that's an opinion.
I have a question. If Jon is possibly going to get in trouble for tweeting about his court date,couldn't Kate get in trouble for saying what she did on Regis? She was talking about Jon and custody and child support!! So why wouldn't she get in trouble,only Jon? There has to be a way to stop this woman. She really needs to scale down her lifestyle cos there is no way Jon will ever get a job in everyday life that will allow him to pay $25,00 a month in child support. I don't even think the President gets more than $25,00 a month,does he?
I would hate to be a member of IW or another fan site and display my pathology and ignorance to the world, as the fans do every day. I've never seen anything quite like it.
Kate seems to think that parenting means taking care of the next 15 minutes according to her schedule. Eat your food, pick up your mess, brush your teeth, go to bed. If those are done, she has parented, and nothing else needs to be considered.
She may not yet know that parenting is looking into the far-off future and preparing your children for normal adult lives - emotionally,
mentally and spiritually, as well as physically.
browneyedgirl said...
I would hate to be a member of IW or another fan site and display my pathology and ignorance to the world, as the fans do every day. I've never seen anything quite like it.
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Aldous Huxley ("Brave New World") said it best (and it certainly could be words right out of the sheeples' mouths): “Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don't know because we don't want to know.”
NT, it depends on what the court's order says. If it just prohibits the parties from talking about the actual court proceedings, Kate's Regis appearance would not be a violation. But if the order prohibits them from speaking publicly about custody/visitation/support issues in general, I think it would be. Without seeing the order, we don't know if Jon actually violated it either. Just because Kate's attorney says it doesn't make it so. His tweets sure sound like they were written by someone other than Jon. They were either crafted so as to not violate the order, or Jon made the decision that a fine or a few days in jail for contempt would be worth it to get his side out there on behalf of his children. At least that's my take on it all.
I think after what they've been through it's better just to keep zip-lipped about anything these children are doing. But does anyone have a facebook account? Do you post status updates after the fact? There ya go, that's what Jon did. A friend of mine went along with his daughter to D.C. on the 8th grade class trip and posted facebook updates about it. He's not exploiting his child of course. I think it's weird that this is so dissecting when this is what parents across the country are doing. Are all these other parents FILMING their kids? No. Are they facebooking and twittering innocent comments, absolutely.
And if the sheeple are so upset about this, then are they admitting that it's not okay we know what the children do in their private lives? What exactly does Kate do when she films the crap out of them? How can they be outraged about this but not by what Kate does?
One more point, twittering after the fact is apples, and filming the crap out of the children all summer is oranges.
When JK8 first started filming, it was just a few shows per season. The third season went up to 31 episodes. At the end of that season, Jon was hinting strongly he did not want the filming any longer. The fourth season went to over 40 episodes and Jon did not want any more of it. That was also the year that Kate started doing solo tours and leaving Jon behind. Jon knew then it was too much for the family. I can see how Jon thought it was okay for 10 shows a year, but not 30+. Also, the kids were not missing school or getting ridiculed. It makes sense that Jon says the filming is no longer in the children's best interest.
I remember one episode where J & K were sitting on the interview couch and Kate said "We're ready for another season", while Jon just looked unsure. I'm sure Kate either would've given him a "love tap" if he'd objected, or she probably threatened/bullied him into doing another season. When Kate says "we", she actually just means herself.
Thanks for explaining that to me Boo. I sure hope Jon does not get into trouble for this. But evil kate will find a way and she will make sure she comes out smelling like a rose.
For those nailing Jon as being too late with his feelings about filming HIS kids, nothing is EVER TOO LATE when it concerns your kids safety and sanity. And like someone stated, he didn't mind a couple of shows but when they were hitting 30-40 in a season (which is NOT a year)he felt the kids were too young for that. When you factor in the H O U R S required to get a 30 or 60 minute show, they are W O R K I N G long hours! It is disgusting that the Industry and the Legal System are not only allowing but rewarding Kate's reprehensible behavior. WHAT mother (and I use THAT word literally and literarily loosely)would treat her kids in private (let alone in public in front of cameras she arranges to have taking pictures)? Look at the look on her face as she is picking up the kids in the last disgusting batch on Radar Online or some other sleazy source. Why does almost every picture have an expression of almost hatred when she looks at them? Oh yeah, that's right, they're not making $$$$$$$$ - $$ (one $ for each of the kids minus 2 for the twins because in HER eyes they don't count). HOW can tlc NOT SEE she is useless, talentless, clueless (definitely), and, well, just every other 'less' word there is. We have no interest in her, her kids are no more interesting than any other 6 and 10 year olds (and less interesting than most - might be hereditary) and there is nothing left for her to do that most of us cannot afford to do once a year let alone something every week like her entitled kids were able to do. Jellus? If that's what disgust sounds like, I guess so. But it's NOT OF HER, it's of things I wish other children might sample ONCE, at least!
For those nailing Jon as being too late with his feelings about filming HIS kids, nothing is EVER TOO LATE when it concerns your kids safety and sanity. And like someone stated, he didn't mind a couple of shows but when they were hitting 30-40 in a season (which is NOT a year)he felt the kids were too young for that. When you factor in the H O U R S required to get a 30 or 60 minute show, they are W O R K I N G long hours! It is disgusting that the Industry and the Legal System are not only allowing but rewarding Kate's reprehensible behavior. WHAT mother (and I use THAT word literally and literarily loosely)would treat her kids in private (let alone in public in front of cameras she arranges to have taking pictures)? Look at the look on her face as she is picking up the kids in the last disgusting batch on Radar Online or some other sleazy source. Why does almost every picture have an expression of almost hatred when she looks at them? Oh yeah, that's right, they're not making $$$$$$$$ - $$ (one $ for each of the kids minus 2 for the twins because in HER eyes they don't count). HOW can tlc NOT SEE she is useless, talentless, clueless (definitely), and, well, just every other 'less' word there is. We have no interest in her, her kids are no more interesting than any other 6 and 10 year olds (and less interesting than most - might be hereditary) and there is nothing left for her to do that most of us cannot afford to do once a year let alone something every week like her entitled kids were able to do. Jellus? If that's what disgust sounds like, I guess so. But it's NOT OF HER, it's of things I wish other children might sample ONCE, at least!
browneyedgirl said...
I would hate to be a member of IW or another fan site and display my pathology and ignorance to the world, as the fans do every day. I've never seen anything quite like it.
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Aldous Huxley ("Brave New World") said it best (and it certainly could be words right out of the sheeples' mouths): “Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don't know because we don't want to know.”
"Even if he did it's not ok for Jon to tweet about pizza but ok for Kate to film them all summer long? Hypocrisy."
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Doesn't it scare the hell out of you to think what it WOULD take to make sheeple change their views about filming those kids?
God be with you, Jon.
May you find comfort in knowing that you have MANY people supporting your decision.
You are your children's "Knight in Shining Armour". Don't you ever forget that.
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