Fast national ratings for last night's Sarah Palin's Alaska (awaiting final ratings from Travis Yanan):
"Sunday night's (Dec. 12) episode of Sarah Palin's Alaska featuring fellow TLC reality family the Gosselins topped last week's viewership low, but fell short of the first and third week-numbers, continuing the series roller coaster ride through the ratings.
Alaska earned a 2.1 household rating and 3.1 million total viewers, according to Nielsen fast nationals, up from 2.8 million viewers the prior week.
The reality series has had an uneven performance in the ratings through its first several episodes. After its record-setting 5 million-viewer debut, Alaska fell to 3 million in its second week before it bounced up to 3.5 million in its third."
OK I am not a Kate fan but want to point out to everyone the manipulation that TLC does with editing.
If you go to youtube and watch Pt 4. Look at one of the tup girl's face at the 3:42 minute mark. It is EXACTLY the same shot used in Pt 5 at the 4:23 min mark. The Part 4 shot is used when Chuck is describing bear safety in the campsite. The Part 5 shot is used when Kate tells the kids they are Palins not Gosselins.
I am in NO WAY excusing Kate - for her nasty words and boorish behavior are captured forever on film. And I truly believe the kids were sad to have to leave. She is a trainwreck and those kids are the collateral damage.
However, TLC manipulates us by using the same clip of what looks like sad, forlorn kids in two entirely different scenarios. I think this is the testament that Reality TV is NOTHING like reality.
When she says that people say she's the crazy one?? That's putting it very mildly. How about evil, abusive, sociopath, malignant, sadistic, narcissistic, vile, disgusting, horrible, cruel, moronic, contemptible, slutty, obnoxious, liar....I'm sure you all could come up with many more. But crazy? Let's not sugar-coat things.
I felt so bad for the kids. Kate talks about how her kids are getting such wonderful experiences on their trips and here the kids were so happy just spending time with adults who talked to them and showed them things. That is how family memories are made, spending time together and sharing things. I loved the quote from Sarah's Dad about K8 b*tching from the time they got off the pain, imagine what else he said that didn't make it to the show! He was trying to warm Kate's gloves by the fire but she just wanted to be a prima donna.
Those stupid twats on that Facebook page for Kate (that her mom and sister run) are saying that Sarah wasn't showing any hospitality and and blaming Sarah for Kate's misery.
Seriously. Are there really people this ignorant out there? How do these people function in life?
Maybe Kate has fake profiles and she's the one writing these comments? Or could be that kooky sister of hers. She's nuttier than a fruitcake.
Wow, if Kate would say to her children "you are no longer Gosselins, you are Palins" because they wanted to stay, can you imagine what she must say to them in regards to spending time with their father? We can kind of get of glimpse of that in regards to what she said to them about this trip, and the tall tale she spun on Regis about them wanting to come home when they are spending time with their dad. Can you imagine the confusion in the minds of the kids in not knowing what the "right answer" is when their mother puts them on the spot in these situations?
Does TLC really think this will improve the ratings for Kate Plus 8 or are they trying to get rid of her? I can't for the life of me imagine anyone supporting or wanting to watch her show after this behavior. ******************* Oh, this is ratings GOLD. On Sunday morning, the Today Show once again promoted the episode and the spin was that this pairing is lightning in a bottle. Big, big time draw. Two polarizing women...camping and firing rifles etc? It's must-see-tv. Thanks for all the reports. I didn't watch. It appears that Kate's behavior was even worse than initially reported, or as bad as initially reported. If you think TLC showed her highness in all her heinousness to "get rid of her" or damage her ratings, think again. TLC is savvy, and Kate is dumb like a fox. The latter knowing exactly how to keep the spotlight on herself and remain in the news and on the tube. Like the reality tv producer said on Small Town Gosselin's blog, the shows aren't scripted, their contrived (paraphrasing here). They put people into situation where they can predict how they'll react, then get the "highlights" to show footage that adhere's to the character's role. Kate *should* go away, but won't any time soon.
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This Sarah Palin's Alaska episode showcases exactly how to stir up drama and get lots of media attention - take Kate out of her normal element and watch her meltdown. This could be the new "Twist of Kate" show TLC has been trying to put together for the last year - put Kate in awkward and/or challenging situations and see how she reacts. It doesn't work with ordinary citizens (because, unfortunately, Kate thinks she's above them all) but with celebrities doing hobbies they love (and watching Kate trying to fit in while failing miserably).
All of a sudden that Jonny Moseley snowboarding idea doesn't sound so bad. Maybe they should have put her on Skating with the Stars.
All in all, thanks to media and viewers, TLC will now focus on putting Kate in more of these awkward situations and watching her fall apart.
Please, just please, leave the kiddies out of this "Twist of Kate".
Thanks Denise..as my jaw dropped I see why even BM's love-fest group sdoesn't have it available.
Being Canadian, we camp every year, we enjoy all the weather, and frankly, I get bored at a closed -in resort.
My and my dd's best memories are around a camp-fire or the first fish we caught...don't remember bug-bites and the cold..sheesh...
Please let this minute number 25..please get those kids a normal view on life and its experiences...after-all, when we die, all we bring with us is our memories, the rest we leave behind...may the 8 start having better life experiences..and good memories
I keep thinking what a different, as in enjoyable the memorable, experience the kids would have had if it had been Jon taking them camping with the Palins.
There is no way that Kate will ever be able to defend the way she acted on this episode. The world got to see the real Kate and another example of the turmoil and emotional blackmail those kids endure being raised by this woman. SHE is the reason for their issues. And she is teaching those kids to be rude and ungracious.
It was clear Kate never wanted to be there and I do wonder also, if on the plane there she tried to tell the children how miserable it was going to be. It was nice watching the kids interact with the Palins, especially Sarah's dad. Gotta love him. It seems Tod didn't want anything to do with her and would have thrown her to a bear if he had the chance. But Kate had to ruin it for the kids once again. Knowing the kids wanted to stay, and just seeing how the kids were enjoying themselves she could have toughed it out. Geez, go stand by the fire if you are cold, fires help keep the bugs away too. Oh no, NOT Kate, it's all about her. Anything she could whine about she did. The last part where they showed the Palins sitting around the fire laughing and having a good time was nice. I think the Gosselin kids would have enjoyed that.
It astonishes me how the fans still support this self centered shrew. They still claim that she is just a strong woman and they admire strong women because they are strong women. BS. I know strong women and they are not whining, abusive, bullying, shrieking wenches. Strong women don't behave like this. And frankly, if they consider Kate their hero because they are just like her, God help all their kids. They are in trouble. I love Sarah's Dad, she pegged her after just a few minutes, as well as Todd did. I wonder if Jon saw this and if so what he thought. Oh, well, it doesn't matter what Jon thinks, he's only the father and TLC tells everyone involved in this fiasco just how high to jump and they all obey. Sickening beyonds words.
Its not even about how rude she is on the Alaska trip. . .
Those kids ALL know how they live is not right. That she isnt like other mommies. They wonder why she is mean to them. They want to know why she doesnt like them. Why people look at them and she doesnt protect them. Why she doesnt have friends. Is Steve gonna be our daddy? I love MY daddy. Why doesnt she just sit by me or hold my hand nicely? Why is she always mad? Why do i always have to go away? Why is she always tired?
I thought Kate would do anything for her children. She should get docked pay for not following through with the whole camping experience. That Kate sure is a quitter. She quit her marriage, then she quit Sarah Palin’s TV show. When will she quit her children’s TV show? I am ashamed that Kate is from the same state as I. California, do you want her?
When Kate told Sarah that she was leaving, Sarah's first question was, "How are you going to break it to the kids?" It's pretty sad when a total stranger cares more about her children's feelings than she does. That in itself pretty much wraps it up in one sorry-looking package.
I have lurked here for a long time. Just saw the part 4 clip on Youtube. Telling those children, "Fine. Goodbye. You're Palins now, not Gosselins" has me steaming.
It is one of the most outright, egregious examples of *public* emotional and mental abuse of children that I have ever witnessed...
What is it going to take for some kind of powers-that-be to step in and help all eight of those kids??
Kate approaches every situation as if she and the kids are a freak show to be stared and pointed at, no engagement, polite chit chat or conversation required. In fact Kate would rather people just stare and point because she has nothing to offer. She is that self absorbed. She barely even notices the children anymore. They are the nanny's responsibility. Sarah Palin was warm, cheerful and inviting and Kate was just oddly detached. She winced, she scowled, she picked lint off her shirt, and then she bailed. Why do the sheeple love her?
I watched this episode mainly because I'd never watched Kate on TV, I didn't realize how lucky I was to have avoided her. Her behavior affected me on such a visceral level that I found it difficult not to throw something at my TV.
Aside from the expected whining and complaining from Kate The Party Pooper, a few things stood out, at least to me.
1. The kids eyes were so dead and their faces were so blank until Sarah's dad showed them all the interesting things he'd collected. They were paying rapt attention to his explanations and seemed to be enjoying themselves. Of course Kate had to make a frightening comment to the kids regarding the tangled antlers. Good going there Kate.
2.She told those poor kids that "They were Palins and not Gosselins" (paraphrase) because they wanted to stay at the camp. It was fun to watch the kids having fun and learning about Alaska. I thought making the map out of rocks was a great idea. I truly think Kate Gesselin has all the maternal instincts of a pit viper and one day those kids will turn on her.
Is anyone else even more, really, frightenend for those kids? I am.
I knew she was unfit due to her mental illness, but she is so deteriorated now that she cant even fake it for the cameras and money, her two gods.
I am an LISW in Ohio, I want desperatly for the kids to have a few sessions alone with someone, anyone. This has disaster written all over it for 8, count em 8, people.
as for the sheeple and their little editing thing, unless they are claiming that everything was computer generated special effects and some kind of Avatar-Katie, they can just shut up. that was REAL tantrums, REAL rudeness, real whining, real walking-off. And REAL viciousness towards little children that she intended to belittle and frighten, Piper included.
After watching a later repeat of this episode last night, I immediately felt awful for Kate's children. I don't care for SP and haven't watched her show prior to this episode, but I liked her father's honesty and Todd's attempt at distancing himself from Kate and all her drama. Kate's comment to Sarah's young daughter Piper regarding camping was demeaning. And threatening to leave her own children and disowning them is incredibly manipulative, cruel and disturbing. She is depressing to watch and there is something really unsettling about her behavior. She appears very disconnected and uninterested in other people. She is even appears detached from her own children. I haven't watched Kate's show in ages, except for a preview or online clip here or there. Her poor children appear to be props or puppets around her. They don't act like normal, emotionally healthy children. What a sad existence for these children. At least the ratings didn't go up very much for this episode because I truly felt guilty for contributing to any ratings increase. I will never watch a show with her and the children again.
At GWOP, someone commented: as soon as she got off the plane, she said, "Wouldn't a lodge be a lot better than this" as Sarah was smiling and greeting the kids. Sarah's dad put his hand up to Kate to shut her up.
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I only saw Mr. Heath waving hello to her, not shutting her up. But by the end of Kate's venture into camping, I bet he was plenty ready to shut her up.
I was the one who wrote that comment on GWOP...where Sarah's dad put his hand up to shut Kate up. It was very quick so I hope everyone caught that especially when Kate yelled that a lodge would be so much better. This was right when they got off the airplane!! I couldn't believe it!!
I could tell Sarah's dad was disgusted by her behavior and I'm glad he shut her up. His body language and facial expression spoke volumes.
Didn't Khate once threaten to give the kids to strangers on some episode? ************************************** Did kHate threaten to leave Cara with strangers at the Statue of Liberty?
I am ashamed that Kate is from the same state as I. California, do you want her?
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Over at GWOP, they voted as to who would get her. It was an interesting discussion - someone from EVERY state voted and gave reasons why they didn't want her there. Some rather funny (and valid) reasons! In addition, they heard from overseas, Australia, UK, New Zealand, Hong Kong, as well as Canada.
TLC is her job and if camping with the Palins was in the script than she should have been made to camp outside period. There are some things we don't care to do in our jobs but we still go to work every day. She says it's her job ,so why does she get a free pass to walk away from work and cry like a 2 year old, any real job and the boss would have told us to take a damm hike if we behaved that way.
Uh, NO. Not a chance. Actually maybe SoCal will take her - in fact she would blend in with all the fake boob, bottled blondes that are a dime a dozen. We definitely do NOT want her anywhere near Northern California though.
What a complete and total waste of space, and doing her best to squander 8 little childhoods, too.
About the you're not a Gosselin Hannah looked so downtrodden when she okay, I'll go. One day they will be old enough to say, "Hey, Khate, guess what, you're the only one of us who is not a Gosselin. That is the one thing you cannot take away from us. We have a father who loves us very and will make a place for us whenever you are ready, and is fighting for us even as we speak."
Isn't it funny, I've read, around the Internet today, some sheeple are abadoning their goddess after last night's fiasco. At the same time, I've read some Palin haterz stating that she was the better person in this whole mess, despite the fact that they still don't like Sarah.
I hope, hope, hope this will be the death knell to Katie's so called "career".
Statement: When Kate left and two seconds later Sarah mentioned that the sky cleared...if that was just editing, brilliant job. If it really happened that way, good job, Heavenly Father.
When Kate first arrived at the Palins' home, it sure looked to me like Sarah was going to hug her in greeting but Kate stopped her and shook her hand instead. Kate had to put her hand up pretty high and it was an awkward hand shake.
Regarding Oprah: not only did she recently camp with Gail but she did a show a few years ago where she entered a 'village' that was set in the 17th century (or something like that). She and Gail lived the life for a couple of days - clothing, food, toilet facilities, sleeping arrangements, work, everything. And Oprah was positive and a good sport about the whole thing.
And yes, she had barely been off the plane before she was insulting her hosts.
As for the sheeple trying to say she was upset about the threat of bears - wouldn't that mean she would hover around her kids and be where they are at all times - not hunched under a tarp whining and staying several yards away? Sorry, I don't know who brought up that excuse that the Kate fans were making.
CJ said... To all that are singing Sarah's praises, she might well be more gracious and a better mother than Kate... but remember Sarah was being paid One Million Dollars to fulfill her contract for this show. ~~~ It's a sure bet, Kate wasn't doing it for free.
gotyournumberKate said... Ok, I'm not done:) I'm sitting here trying to figure out TLC's motive for showing Kate in such a horrible light. --------- TLC's motive? It's ALL for ratings...and we are feeding into it! TLC KNEW that there would be a feeding frenzy when they showed Kate in this horrible light! They knew with 100% certainty that all the boards would be lit up like Christmas trees after that episode. They WANT the public to hate her and keep talking about her!! To them, bad publicity or ANY publicity and chatter about Kate, is just as good if not better than good publicity. And here's proof....
"I loathe this woman and her entire brand said... Well, I see the ratings for Palin's Alaska went from 2.78 to 3.1. That's an 11% increase."
Its not even about how rude she is on the Alaska trip. . .
Those kids ALL know how they live is not right. That she isnt like other mommies. They wonder why she is mean to them. They want to know why she doesnt like them. Why people look at them and she doesnt protect them. Why she doesnt have friends. Is Steve gonna be our daddy? I love MY daddy. Why doesnt she just sit by me or hold my hand nicely? Why is she always mad? Why do i always have to go away? Why is she always tired?
Thats what they think.
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You're able to read the minds of eight children that you don't know? That's quite a feat.
here's a history lessons for you. Palin invited Kate to her show for ratings. Kate is the draw, Sarah wants a political future. She mocked another Mom working and supporting her kids. Sarah will be the biggest joke in the next two years when she tries to run for office. No working Mom will want her in office. Palin made a big mistake!! ----------
Of course, it's all for ratings! Why do you suppose the Gosselins happened to be in Alaska filming? This wasn't a last minute decision by the Palins; it was all part of a TLC cross-over Palin/Gosselin night (which ended in disaster at the expense of Kate herself). I doubt TLC would have spent all that money to bring the Gosselins to Alaska AND NOT interact with the Palins. It was as obvious to many of us as soon as the first Alaska pap photos appeared.
Sarah Palin is probably like all those other media personnel and celebrities who have this impression that Kate Gosselin is some sort of supermom for having 8 kids. They don't really follow all the gossip or watch the show like many of us have in the past, so they really don't know the real Kate until they finally meet her.
Sarah Palin, being the sweet person she appears to be on tv, probably thought this would be a fun trip for all the families UNTIL she actually met Kate. It was quite obvious early on in the episode that the two didn't hit it off. You don't really see them interact with each other, getting to know one another.
Yes, Sarah is a producer for her own show but I didn't see any mocking or ridiculing of Kate's behavior. What we saw was Kate being her natural self when she's out of her normal environment.
While Sarah is producer, TLC ultimately decides what will air on tv and decided to make lemonade out of lemons. TLC knew exactly what type of viewers they would attract with this episode - the same viewers who tuned-in week after week watching Kate on DWTS.
If the camping trip had gone smoothly, would there be such a fuss? Some of us would probably find it boring, like other non-dramatic Kate Plus 8 episodes.
I was the one who wrote that comment on GWOP...where Sarah's dad put his hand up to shut Kate up. It was very quick so I hope everyone caught that especially when Kate yelled that a lodge would be so much better. This was right when they got off the airplane!! I couldn't believe it!!
I could tell Sarah's dad was disgusted by her behavior and I'm glad he shut her up. His body language and facial expression spoke volumes.
I hope admin can locate that on video.
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No one is reading the children's minds. It's called common sense.
The kids were finally able to express their feelings in this episode, and it was exactly as any of us could have seen with common sense given how much fun they were having on the trip--sure enough, they said they don't want to leave. It was one of the first times the children have actually been able to say how they feel about something rather than just Kate's spin-crap telling us how they feel.
h84k8 said... Michelle said... So what do you think Kate did with the kids once she got back to the lodge? They were having fun camping, so did she replace it with another fun activity or was Kate in her suite and the kids were "not allowed in under penalty of severeness" and were off with the nanny?
They were with the nanny, that's for sure! Kate reportedly disappeared for 2 days with Steve after leaving the park ~~~ h84k8 - If that's you that has the SPA youtube videos up, thanks. Now that you reminded me of Khate and Steve disappearing for 2 days, and having seen the show last nite, it puts a whole 'nother slant on just where Kate and Steve may have gone?? If he's not her lover, and really is her handler, what do you suppose they would have done those 2 days? Did Khate get raked over the coals from TLC for that little stunt she pulled? Anyone?
That was just painful to watch. Those poor kids looked like they were walking on eggshells, afraid to have too much fun without their mother's approval. When they wanted to stay and had to leave anyway, my heart went out to them. Why bother asking them what they want if you are going to disregard it anyway? They should have left Kate at home.
Don't Speak for the Children said... You're able to read the minds of eight children that you don't know? That's quite a feat. ~~~~~ Someone needs to SPEAK FOR THE CHILDREN, their poor ass excuse for a mother sure isn't doing right by them.
I am just baffled a bit I guess. The fact Kate just stands there doing nothing. Just erks me a bit I guess. Why does she feel the need to complain SO MUCH?! Camping and life in general it just should not be made out to be so hard. But I guess that is Kate's JOB--to make life as inconvient and difficult for everyone else just because she has 8 kids and doesn't want to do antyhing remotely that doesn't involve being pre-scheduled and planned by her TLC that isn't in a dry, warm, catered hotel. She just seems to make it her JOB to be unpleasant, rude, all about her and its so much like my brother it would drive me up a wall if I was Sarah. I would not have waited for her to leave on her own I would have told her, "You were invited, you said yes you would come, you came. If you don't want to be here, you can just leave." I know it would have made Sarah sound a bit mean but even with a camera in my face I could not chose to act any different.
You're able to read the minds of eight children that you don't know? That's quite a feat.
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One doesn't have to be able to read the minds of eight children. One look into their faces tells it all. You know the old adage, "One picture is worth a thousand words?" In this case, one episode speaks volumes.
I know this is off topic and it's no big deal if it doesn't get posted; but I was just looking at the picture of Kate on the heading of the blog (she looks like an evil Mrs. Wiggins) and - OH MY GOSH - I think I have those earrings!!!! Darn. Mine are Brighton; I splurged and treated myself to them a few months ago - I wear them nearly every day. If I can wear Brighton, Kate probably wouldn't, would she? I mean it would be below her, right?
This certainly puts me on the horns of a dilemma.....
This is just a theory I have, and I could be totally wrong. I read on GWOP that when Kate was growing up, her family was very dysfunctional (it still is now). Her father, although a minister, was very domineering, and her mother was more passive-agressive.
I am wondering if Kate was so badly controlled while growing up, and takes her resentment out on her kids. I am also wondering if she is afraid of her domineering father, and instead bullies her kids and ex-husband.
My grandma is controlling (my grandpa passed away in '95 but I've heard he was controlling as well) and they had 6 kids (not sextuplets). My aunt said growing up, she felt like she had to tiptoe around her parents so she wouldn't make them mad, and was often afraid of them.
I remember on J&K + 8, Kate once said that the trips they go on give her kids opportunities; oportunities that she didn't get to have when she was a child. I'm wondering if whenever she sees her kids having fun, it makes her mad b/c maybe she wasn't allowed to have those opportunities and she's jealous and resentful that they do? (But then why wouldn't she enjoy it w/ them?)
Whatever reason, she seems to take great pleasure in denying them stuff they want. They wanted to color at the Crayola factory and eat their decorated cupcakes on the bakery episode; Kate wouldn't let them. They wanted to stay with the Palins in Alaska; Kate wouldn't let them.
The kids DON't want to keep filming and yet Kate makes them. They were so hot and tired in the New York episode and yet they had to keep going.
Following Kate Gosselin's televised (and rough) camping trip with Sarah Palin, the mom of eight is now telling friends she too has political ambitions and would some day like to run for office.
"Honestly, Kate is unbelievable," an insider tells me. "Her ego is out of control at this point. Ever since 'Dancing With the Stars,' and the fact that she appeared on more consecutive covers of US Weekly than any celebrity ever, she thinks that she has what it takes to run for office."
This has to be made up right? If true, further proof she is totally delusional.
This woman needs to be taken away in a straitjacket.
You'll have to ask Dr. Phil about that. He's the one (we're told) who tried to convince Jon and Kate to stay together for the sake of their "brand". In other words, troubles aside, you've got something marketable here you don't want to lose.
Awhile back in this post Barb mentioned that Kate talks AT people not WITH people. She barks most of the time. Besides the fact that she's vile, abusive and sociopathic, I've been wondering lately if she has a touch of Asperger's. Not to excuse her for being evil, but among her many other sociopathies, I'm starting to wonder. She doesn't even pretend to have people skills.
Who should really be speaking for the children is a court appointed GAL or attorney trained in representing children who has done a thorough assessment of each and every children and then reporting their findings confidentially. But apparently the judge thinks their parents can speak for them and that's sufficient.
Kate didn't remember the hand sanitizer (or her manners), but she did remember to bring along the chewing gum and wear eye shadow! Priceless! :-) What a mom!
I cannot imagine how any person could be so dispicable and so ungracious that, when the host cooked food for you, you would have the cahones to whine about it and throw the food on the ground. If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it.
I was the one who wrote that comment on GWOP...where Sarah's dad put his hand up to shut Kate up. It was very quick so I hope everyone caught that especially when Kate yelled that a lodge would be so much better. This was right when they got off the airplane!! I couldn't believe it!!
I could tell Sarah's dad was disgusted by her behavior and I'm glad he shut her up. His body language and facial expression spoke volumes.
I hope admin can locate that on video.
You're right -- it wasn't your imagination -- I saw it too.
"Also, in part four when Kate is about to board the plane, she is very rude to the pilot."
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When I was watching this, I was thinking that I would have been totally miserable, too. I'm no camper. However, there is no excuse for rudeness. You don't leave your manners at home. Then I realized that Kate never did have any manners to begin with, so there were no manners to bring along with her.
I have always watched with disbelief that those kids were never taught to say please or thank you. Watch some of the past episodes when they met someone; or when they were handed a gift; or when they were served at restaurants. They watch their mother, and they emulate her. She exudes entitlement, and thanking people just never occurs to her. Did she thank Sarah when they left the campsite? Perhaps so, but we didn't see it. Neither did I see one of those kids saying thank you, nor their mother telling them to do so.
"She mocked another Mom working and supporting her kids."
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What working mom did she mock? Are you referring to Kate as the "mockee"? I think you have that wrong. Kate's kids are supporting her. She's just going along for the ride.
Sarah didn't mock Kate. If anything, she was gracious. As rude as Kate was to her, Sarah really could have gone off on her. But the fur didn't fly. Sarah really showed restraint. If anything (and according to quite a few opinions on various sites), Kate made Sarah look like a saint. If anything, this last episode is going to help Sarah, not hurt her.
Besides the fact that she's vile, abusive and sociopathic, I've been wondering lately if she has a touch of Asperger's
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Asperger's often goes hand-in-hand with bipolar. Someone mentioned that she may be bipolar because of her various mood swings...mean and manipulative when she's with the kids; smiling and happy when she's on her own with Steve. She can change her moods at the drop of a hat. She has a "face" for every situation.
It would be interesting if after all this time Kate wasn't a narcissist at all but rather has bipolar or asberger's or something along those lines.
I have absolutely no idea what she has, only a full psychological evaluation can accomplish that, however if it's not narcissism, some of these others issues can be improved with medication, intensive therapy, and so on. Maybe there is hope? If it's narcissism her kids are pretty much screwed, you simply cannot cure that kind of PD. Not anything any doctor has come up with yet anyway.
Because my BF wants to go to Alaska one day, he has programmed our DVR to record all new episodes of SP's show. He was not home last night so I saw the show and waited until he saw it today before I commented here with his comments:
Re: Piper looking forward to meeting the 8 BF: She likes Kate? Boy is she in for a rude awakening!
Re: Kids throwing bear tongue BF: Kate doesn't control her kids in someone else's else house?
Re: Sarah's father's house BF: What a great educational opportunity for those kids!
Re: Bear class BF: Look at SP, something is going on. Kate does not look like she wants to participate at all. No, not just in this class ... I don't think she is happy ... she is going camping?!
Re: Arrival at campsite BF: Kate is already bitching about staying at a lodge instead? Big surprise!
Re: Campsite BF: Wait a minute, everything was set up and all Kate had to do was to show up and she has the nerve to be complaining?
Re: Bug bites BF: Bitten by WHAT?!?!?! Oh gimme a break!
Re: Hamburgers and hotdogs BF: Those are not moose hotdogs LOL ... OMG is she just nibbling at it?
Re: Weather BF: Can't be that cold, those kids have their hands in water and not all are wearing gloves ME: Someone checked weather in July in AK and I think it was around 50 degrees BF: She is from PA ... gimme me break! You can tell she did not want to be there from the get go, I can't believe she is just standing under that tent doin nothin but bitchin ... those kids are having fun!
Re: Todd fishing BF: SMART MAN! I bet he does not even have the right lure because the last thing he wants is to catch something at this point LOL
Re: Kate calling her kids "Palins" BF: What a C***! What mother says that to her kids?
Re: Last scene where Willow saying she had to go pee and Sarah telling her to knock it off ME: I think that confirms the report that Kate pitched a fit about having to pee in a bucket with a toilet seat on it. BF: If Kate's show is not off the air, it soon will be after this camping trip. Who the hell does she think she is? Does she really have fans at this point?
Letterman said, “Sarah Palin has a TV show has anybody seen it?”
Paul said, “Yes I’m crazy about it ... I love the show”
Letterman said, “He is not under oath... it is a wonderful show she takes you around Alaska and then each week someone is voted off ... last night she goes camping with Kate Gosselin ... I know you are all wondering when will she go away ... I don’t know ... what a pair ... you have a vapid media star desperate for attention, and then there is Kate Gosselin.”
Who the hell does she think she is? Does she really have fans at this point? ************** Apparently a large amount of Kate fans defected after this episode. I was hoping for that. I do not tell people what to do, but this is the first time I've actually thought it might be a great idea if people did watch because it would be worth it to convert a bunch of sheeple or people who had no opinion of her.
It reminds me of other "big" events like say gum gate or Aaden lying in his own vomit where we would see a big round of sheeple come around like little prodigal sons.
I want the defectors to know I'm not judging and you're welcome here and I think you'd be welcome at any other blog, lol.
Lara Spencer: “Were the reality stars feuding behind the scenes of SP’s Alaska? Learning to shoot a shotgun earlier in the day seems to have set Kate off.”
Albert Lee, US Weekly: “Within 5 minutes of them being together you could tell that they had zero chemistry. They didn’t even speak to each other off camera.”
Lara: “Sulking so low under a tent, Kate clearly miserable during a rainy cold camping trip.”
Albert Lee: “One of our Gosselin sources told us that Kate actually does not like Sarah because she feels that Sarah is basically replacing her on the TLC network as their network star”
Lara: “Kate’s kids even caught in the crossfire ... then Kate having had enough abruptly cut short the camping trip ... the tension was evident and Sarah’s dad got the last word”
My personal POV of this episode: Kate was paid very well to play nice on the sand bar with the Palins and yet at no time did Kate display an ounce of common courtesy to her hosts or even suck it up for the benefit of her children who were obviously enjoying their time on this camping trip. The kids were not complaining and did not want to leave. Yes, it was raining but only Kate was affected by it, besides it still was not sub zero temperatures. Kate only thinks of Kate at all times and there is no denying this fact thanks to what was captured on film. Also, I now believe everything that was reported back in July by the National Enquirer in regards to Kate's time in Alaska. Everything.
The thing is, if she wants to be the new "Omarosa" or new "J.R Ewing" etc., that's fine and dandy, BUT it's her MOTHERING that is so abhorent! She is not dealing with adults, adults are not her "co-stars", for pete's sake, her "co-stars" aren't even ACTORS, they are her FLESH AND BLOOD! You know, you can take the "ratings gold" drama in a Survivor, Apprentice, Amazing Race type of "reality" show, but to involve children? Kate would have been/IS an abuser, no matter what, but without the show/finances/lawyers/TLC etc., Jon would have left and LEFT WITH THOSE KIDS!
"Of course Kate couldn't stay out camping! She couldn't have her smokes, and couldn't have her wine, without being found out."'
Someone else wondered what Stevie-Boy was doing there since rabid fans and throngs of paps are few and far between in the middle of nowhere in the Alaskan wilderness. Just what is his purpose? she asked. "Is he the source for pills, booze, what...?"
WHOA! Gotta love those curious and smart 'haterz.' HA!
The speculation that TLC will continue to "use" Kate in a show and make her the "nasty" one will most likely fail as I bet many like me, will get tired of manufactured drama and Kate thinking she is an actress that can pull it off. I have not watched the show in over a year and certainly would not watch any show she is in now but I hope most viewers have better things to watch than Kate being her usual diva. Kate is so delusional to think she is the main reason for the show, not the kids, but she is not. So the ratings go up some after all the hype but she has to keep it going and to do so will be at the expense of the kids. What examples she sets for her kids! Sell your soul to the highest bidder, anything goes as long as you get paid for it, etc. TLC will use her till she drops and than look for the next victim.
I also don't feel Kate's childhood is any excuse for her actions. She has an inflated view of herself and was lucky to find someone to continue to inflate it. She knows exactly what she is doing and so does TLC. The problem is they are ruining 8 children in the process and that is the sad part. Many of us did not have stable family life growing up, but we did not ruin our children lives because we use our own experiences as guidelines as to what not to do. Of course, that means putting them before ourselves most of the time and Kate does not do that.
According to Popeater, Kate thinks being on the most consecutive covers of US weekly qualifies her for a political future?
Really?
<>I really have to stop hanging out on the internet so much. It's really bumming me out anymore. If this wasn't so hysterically funny and ridiculous, it would be scary.
Listen, I feel so very sorry for the Gosselin children....and wish I could fix everything for them and give them wonderful lives. I truly do.
But what concerns me almost more here is that we, as a society, have allowed a person...who clearly appears to be one of the most malignant narcissists on the planet, to become a huge celebrity personality.
And the fact that for so long...so many didn't even see her for who she is....and practically had to have it rubbed in our faces to even get a clue. (I DID actually see Kate for who she was from the very beginning but I have also been sucked-into watching other reality shows so I consider myself just as guilty).
And the problem is...this is exactly the reason why people fall for propaganda....dangerous propaganda. I know that something like Nazi Germany, for instance, is a far cry from this whole Kate Gosselin situation.....but the issue of how we are so easily misled by savvy spin-meisters and image handlers....is scary. To have a person like Kate Gosselin....probably the most malignant narcissist I've ever seen in my entire lifetime....crafted by handlers to fool so many...and for so long....is frightening. I'm sorry...but it is. This is exactly HOW and WHY propaganda works. If we fall for anything, we stand for nothing.
We REALLY need to reflect on how this situation even happened in the first place and why so many got so fooled. Otherwise, we are just sitting ducks for any master manipulator who could use the media to ruin our lives and our futures if we don't.
A corporation created Kate Gosselin....but WE the people fell for it....hook, line and sinker.
anon 1 said... Now that you reminded me of Khate and Steve disappearing for 2 days, and having seen the show last nite, it puts a whole 'nother slant on just where Kate and Steve may have gone?? If he's not her lover, and really is her handler, what do you suppose they would have done those 2 days? Did Khate get raked over the coals from TLC for that little stunt she pulled? Anyone? ---------
yes, and she went ballistic for several days too. She was livid that she had been inconvienenced on this trip. They were in a hotel without the children, she was almost unable to function. On the way back from Alaska she was commanded to appear before someone in California, I dont who.
TLC has verbally convinced Kate (starting 6 years ago) that they will have interest in her until the sextuplets become of age. That is why she considers this her career. These were verbal 'promises' made to the parents years ago.
I don't see why anyone would call Kate a good mom after viewing this.
NOT ONCE (I repeat) NOT ONCE did she make an effort to interact with her children, or show an interest in them fishing, collecting artifacts, roasting marshmallows etc. She wasn't even near the fire when her OWN CHILDREN were there. If there was a fire like that and I had 6 6year olds (let alone just one) you bet your A$$ I would be standing right there with them, watching them and 'training' them how to handle it. What IS her problem? The only time she talked with them is when they came to give her a hot dog and then when she practically disowned them for wanting to continue camping.
She relies on everyone to do everything for her. "I'm cold, I'm hungry". Why didn't she pack food? Why didn't she wear warmer clothing, gloves or even sit in a chair by the fire with a blanket? She stood as far away from the heat source as she could be and complained the whole time, caring less about where her children were or what they were doing. Does she rely on everyone else to parent her kids so that she can have the experience? (don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question).
I just can't get over the fact that she acts like a spoiled teenager who has to hang around her younger siblings all day when she'd rather go to the mall with her friends. I swear I was watching my sister as a teenager when I saw this episode (and not just the camping bit, the WHOLE episode).
2 things: My mother-in-law, the sweetest woman ever, who never swears, watches Sarah Palin's show. I was talking to her last night about Christmas, my son, ect, & she asked me about if I watched it. I said no. She said "Well, I watched it last night & let me tell you. That Kate Gosselin was on & I used to think she was OK." I said "Ma, don't even get me started on why that remark is all wrong", "She said, let me finish, I used to think she was until I watched Sarah's show. All I can say is that Kate Gosselin is one selfish bitch!". My jaw dropped. Again, my MIL NEVER swears. Ever. She doesn't even say oh my God. She said, "All Kate did was complain, whine, & was the most ungracious person I ever saw. But when she took those babies of hers away from that campsite & threatened them with that comment about them being Palin's, I had to shut it off!" She was so pissed! I told her my thoughts on Kate, & the things I knew, it was like a half hour conversation...needless to say, I have converted a sheeple. (Go me!)
Another thought. I wonder if Palin ever watched an episode of K+8 & said "Hmmm, I know how to rile this one up. I'll be extra nice to her kids, I'll be extra sweet, charming, I won't let her see me get upset, etc"...It's like Sarah Palin KNEW how to piss off Kate. (I watched a clip) She was playing right into Kate's evil hand. It was awesome, really. The way Palin interacted w/ Kate's kids was great. (If only Kate knew how to mother how her kids) I really think that right there was irking the crap out of Kate, like NO ONE mothers my kids better than me...I don't know, just a thought. Sarah did a great job of being one step ahead of Kate with her words & actions. Does that sound right?
Thanks, Denise, for the link. Wow. She sure was chewing her cud the whole time. What a great role model she is, bitching the whole time. And those eyebrows and face....reminds me of Carol Burnett's Nora Desmond... truly, think about it.
I see that Palin's viewship ticked up a bit, but I agree that even more people got to see the real Kate Gosselin.
Read Werny Gal's interview with a reality tv producer to get some insights as to why TLC would put Gosselin in this type of situation.
Did anyone else notice Sarah's face when Kate was talking to Sarah right before she said they were leaving, Sarah was saying that 'this is what we did growing up'? (around the 4:26 mark on Video 5). My daughter said, "mom, is she crying?" She looked really hurt for a moment. (meaning Sarah). There was a lot of editing around this scene and I wonder if Kate did insult Sarah.
I've been informed there are some completely reasonable sheeple comments out there. We agree on some things! Many of them had to admit Kate was being a baby. And notably, many sheeple are finally seeing that TLC is just USING Kate. Exploiting her bad behavior. They don't like this. As much as the children are exploited, in reality so is Kate. Granted she is an adult and can choose, but exploitation is still exploitation.
This is what we said like 12 months ago, but it's nice of them to catch up.
My God, you are an arrogant little twit. Nobody gives a crap whether they are being judged by the likes of you. &&&&&&&&&& I was being facecious. Hence the "LOL." I know it must be upsetting that everyone can now see Kate for who she really is. Don't take it out on us.
Wow, finally watched it on indemand on monday night. All I can say is that being a city girl myself, I would have been utterly miserable in Kate's situation so I can relate. However, her horribleness (?) was just horrible. She was just awful and I kept wondering if TLC thought it was "cute" to have Kate act like that. You know, just Kate being Kate which is what her fans love about her. I especially got a kick out of Kate comparing herself to Palin. She seemed to think they were so alike. That was funny. They have nothing in common except they are both female and mothers.
Palin Worship, Do you think those people that worked for her are really just upset at their own party for thinking she was a great choice and putting all our eggs in one basket so to speak? I know I was excited at first, thought she was a good choice, then the more I heard her talk the more embarrassed I was. I think they are taking their anger out at the party for a bad choice on her. McCain picked her, they can be angry at him. He didn't have to pick her. When you work for an election, especially a presidential one, if they win you could very well end up getting a job in the White House. Sarah helped McCain lose, which meant those campaign workers aren't getting a coveted White House job anytime soon. They are upset, and it's understandable. In any case, you don't hear these people ragging on what a horrible person she is day after day like people do Kate. Liberals say they LIKE her now after seeing her show. As a person!
Just because people might think you are petty, pathetic and a liar in your working life doesn't mean you don't go home and take fantastic care of your kids. I didn't hear any of them say there was some problem with her private home life. They probably didn't know much about her home life because likst every other mother in America except Kate, she kept it private up until now.
When Kate is looking at the moose dog she asks one of the kids "What is it?" She is told that it's a Moose Dog by one of the tups? and then the child says "I didn't touch it with my hands".
I'm wondering (aloud) why one of the kids would make sure that was said and Kate knew that? Does Kate REALLY think her kids are that icky?
We can rule out OCD for Kate tho. Anyone who is that worried about dirt and germs would never have walked barefoot in NYC no matter how much their feet hurt.
I have way too much time on my hands today. Sorry if I get a little chatty.
As someone mentioned above, I would not have believed it if I didn't see it with my own eyes (watched on YouTube). If Kate isn't sincerely ashamed of her childish, boorish behavior, well, she ought to be. While the Palins entertained, involved, educated and fed her 8 children, Kate paced under a tarp like a caged animal, building bile and vitriol with each minute that she "tolerated" the camping experience. I feel so, so badly for her kids. They were having fun! Not only were the Palins doing all of the heavy lifting (with help from the kids), it was obvious that they were trying even harder to deflect the children's attention away from their mother. In numerous scenes, we see a couple of the G kids and even Piper wander over to Kate in an attempt to engage and comfort her, but alas, to no avail. Did you see Piper's face when Kate asked rather churlishly, "you like this?" She replied, in a somewhat small and intimidated voice "I like the rain". After that, she seemed to realize Kate was not at all the person she thought she'd meet, after watching the show. She wanted nothing to do with her. Adios, Kate. Find your way back to the plane by yourself! Which leads me to ask...who else thinks that the plane was on standby because either Kate insisted, or production was hedging their bets on Kate melting down and needing to take her away like Calgon? I mean, I'd expect the plane to drop them off and leave, because, I assume, the pilot has better things to do than wait on Kate hand and foot.
anon on this said... yes, and she went ballistic for several days too. She was livid that she had been inconvienenced on this trip. They were in a hotel without the children, she was almost unable to function. On the way back from Alaska she was commanded to appear before someone in California, I dont who.
Didn't they have a layover in LA on the way back from Alaska? IIRC...I hope she got reemed a new one... And the tups being of age...Hmmm. And verbally? That is not a really a contract, is it? Kate is so dumb. I hope TLC pulls the rug out from her, & fast.
Tucker's Mom said...(sorry to post again!) After that, she seemed to realize Kate was not at all the person she thought she'd meet, after watching the show (referring to Piper)
I would think Piper would KNOW what kind of person Kate was after watching the show. Kate is just as bitchy, shrew-ish, & mean on her show as she is in real life I would have to assume. Editing does Kate no favors at all. JMO
Wake Up all you Kate lovers and Haters. We are dealing with what I call the new Era of Kate.
Kate is on to this Reality game. She knows that the more she acts dumb, insulting, rude and a hypocrite. The more people will talk about her. Write about her and have conversations about her. The more drama and conflict in Kate's life the more fans and non fans alike she gets.
Look at Sister Wifes, Jersey Shore, and Teen mom to make a point. The more drama, fighting, conflicts, heartbreaks and lies. The more viewers a show will get. America loves to hate. Specially the bad and the good.
Now getting on with this episode.
1. Can do Kate is so OVER. Its Can't do Kate from know on. Remember the video tape with Kate in the limo with steve and he was telling her what to do and were to go.
2. Kate in this episode and many others never once got on her kids level. To speak to a child correctly sometime you need to get on there level. Sara and her family did. They taught kates kids many new exciting things. Kate didn't do anything.
3. The bear and shooting. Kate seemed to get along with sara's other child than Sara herself. Odd. Is this because kate never had a exciting teenage life. Oh that's right she hurried up got married and started having kids. I think Kate misses her teen years badly.
4.Kate and the guns. What happened Kate you shot a dirty harry gun in the west. You did it without giving that horrible look.
5. Kate at Sara's Dads house. Kate your in Alaska. They have skins every were. I bet the place you stayed in has animal skins.
6. Camping. Rude to the pilot, Rude to Sara's Kids, Rude to her children, and All above Rude.
7. I guess Kate wouldn't eat that food since its not completely organic. Um what happens when you eat reg food after a whole organic diet. You get very very ill and sick.
8. Surprised that her kids ate smores. That is not organic or healthy.
9. Poor Piper being asked about camping compared to homeless people. Really nice Kate. You were never born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Kate must of never read that. The lord gives and the lord takes away.
10. Best Part of the Show. Sara's Father hands down.
Sarah will be the biggest joke in the next two years when she tries to run for office. No working Mom will want her in office. Palin made a big mistake!! ~~~~ In one of the links provided above, the writer went on about SP ruining her chances of running for office, just by associating w/TLC. It really is a garbage channel for the most part. I too tend to think she may have pissed away her chance.
h8k8 said... A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... At GWOP, someone commented: as soon as she got off the plane, she said, "Wouldn't a lodge be a lot better than this" as Sarah was smiling and greeting the kids. Sarah's dad put his hand up to Kate to shut her up.
Anyone else catch this when it happened?
I saw and hear it and it definitely happened except that I thought it was directed at Sarah's dad and not Sarah - but she did say it!
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Here is an article about this instance where the kids are with Carla's daughter and the black man bodyguard.
Not that my kids are always so happy and cheery or perfecftly clean, but Aaden is unusually looking sad, so is Alexis and they both look tired and dirty.
What is disheartening is that when Kate wanted to fish on that boat and the kids were puking, she told them it was too late to turn around, wish one of the 8 had told her too late we are too far in mom SUCK IT UP. Can't wait until they can be free of her horrible cold hands.
Administrator said... It would be interesting if after all this time Kate wasn't a narcissist at all but rather has bipolar or asberger's or something along those lines. ~~~~ Oh, I think she has 'em all. She is one sick puppy. She's not bipolar IMO, she just genuinely likes being away from her kids and having a camera on her. I still believe she is a narcissist/sociopath and also, I've thought about Asberger's too. She's unable to 'read' people and react accordingly. She really needs to be hospitalized IMO. She's a danger, most especially to those kids.
I am so curious to know what happened at the end of that trip. As Kate was gathering her reluctant kids to leave the campsite, she had to yell to Maddy to come (the twins were talking to Willow and another young adult, and Willow was saying to them "have fun keeping warm tonight"). I wonder if tit was at this point that the "shaking" incident took place. I can picture Maddy digging in her heels and saying "I want to stay here with all these nice people!" Hopefully sooner or later the entire story will come out!
Point 1) So the bush pilot looks at this collection of tiny children, with a very young woman standing somewhat close to him and some type of bleached blond in he rear of the group. They all have brand new gear on. He's got to be wondering how long this group will last outdoors. Anyway he wonders where the responsible adults in charge are, since they are so indicated on his manifast, so he asks. Seems sensible to me.
Point 2) Somebody probably told Katie that she needed a platform for politics and she figured that with all those shoes a pair or two would have to be platform.
Point 3) Katie will do anything to protect her kids - per Katie. Anyone seen the Seinfeld where George is at some type of childrens party and he goes running out the door yelling fire? He was the first one out the door. Katie is banking that she can outrun at least one of her brood in the event of a bear situation.
Grrr. my post upethread was meant to be attached with a comment about Kate dissapearing after they left the campground....I am sure she swiftly abandonned the 8 to be with Stevo and get to a luxury spa.
OK, I'll admit. I was slightly bias towards Sarah Palin. However, I caught a little bit of her show (I was staying at a hotel - I've been TLC-free for over a year. I slipped a little).
I have to say, Sarah impressed me. She's a hands on mom.
Even in this episode w/ Khate Gimme-gimme-gosselin, Sarah knew Piper's teachers name (when asking her to finish her homework).
I think they (the Palins) swallowed their tongues when it came to the escapades of Khate. They are better people that I am, for inviting a family to spend time with you & the way she reacted. Shame on her! though, we all know she ain't got none :)
Some of the sheeple that are slamming the Palins (commenting on Piper's hair/highlights), give me a break! They are all a bunch of "mean girls" and Khate Gimme-Gosselin is the "queen bee" (as Mady nailed it long ago).
My heart breaks for those children. It really does. My eyes filled up at Mass on Sunday just thinking of them & the gift Khate was given (being a mother) that she doesn't appreciate.
For those of us that would give their right arm to become a parent...it's like Khate spits in our faces.
"Oh, I think she has 'em all. She is one sick puppy. She's not bipolar IMO, she just genuinely likes being away from her kids and having a camera on her. I still believe she is a narcissist/sociopath..." &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Could it be that she doesn't have any of those? She could be just your garden-variety mean, nasty, dispicable, miserable, vile person and has been since the get-go.
What I would like to know is the following: Where is everyone? Carla, Aunt Jodi, Beth, her brother, some nannies .... Where do they go? Why don't they speak up .... What does she have over them? How can she silence everyone? Surely someone must know something ....
Kate is on to this Reality game. She knows that the more she acts dumb, insulting, rude and a hypocrite. The more people will talk about her. Write about her and have conversations about her. The more drama and conflict in Kate's life the more fans and non fans alike she gets.
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You may be right, amazon mommy- but considering the comments from many neighbors, and people that crossed paths with Kate, it appears that she's not acting- she really is dumb, insulting, rude and a hypocrite...
I think her twisted, sick little system of getting attention & stardom on her children's backs is back-firing BIG TIME. I think that FINALLY the majority of the public is on to her hijinks. She might as well walk around with a big scarlet letter "A" on her chest.
"A" = Ass
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Thanks for the link to the article, Sienna. Those babies seem to often have exhausted, lost, overwhelmed, and sad look on their faces.
I don't know what the hell is going on- but just like their mother, their little faces are aging way past their actual years. Compare their faces to Piper's face. Piper's face looks happy, bright, and unburdened. Just like any child her age.
It was so nice to see that big smile on Maddy's face when she was talking about the s'mores. All the kids were clearly having a great time and Kate completely ruined it. I so wish Jon had been asked to take the kids instead, but then he doesn't have a TLC "reality" show does he? It would be nice if Sarah Palin invited Jon and the kids up next summer without cameras.
Following Kate Gosselin's televised (and rough) camping trip with Sarah Palin, the mom of eight is now telling friends she too has political ambitions and would some day like to run for office.
"Honestly, Kate is unbelievable," an insider tells me. "Her ego is out of control at this point. Ever since 'Dancing With the Stars,' and the fact that she appeared on more consecutive covers of US Weekly than any celebrity ever, she thinks that she has what it takes to run for office."
This has to be made up right? If true, further proof she is totally delusional.
This woman needs to be taken away in a straitjacket.
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Probably made up.
Can you imagine what a nightmare Kate would be in public office?
The only public office she is capable of holding is "Sheriff of Terrytoons" with Steve as her "Deputy Dawg"...
OMG, I just read that Kate thinks that since Sarah Palin ran for office that she, Kate, can also run for office. Is there NO LIMIT to this woman's narcissism??? Kate is a high-school graduate and doesn't even read the paper!!! Kate does not have a college degree. She graduated from the Reading Hospital and Medical Center School of Nursing. It is a diploma program - they do not bestow BA or BS degrees. Kate is an RN with a diploma. Now, I've heard everything!
Sarah Palin, how desperate are you? Kate Gosselin, really?
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MickeyMcKean said... Also, I now believe everything that was reported back in July by the National Enquirer in regards to Kate's time in Alaska. Everything. ----------
Wow...National Enquirer turned out to be more reliable and honest than other tabloids, once again. Who woulda thunk it?
Wonder who really spilled the beans on this camping trip? Since that article came out, many of us were fascinated to see just how bad the camping trip turned out. Boy, we weren't disappointed!
There were other dramatic Gosselin moments that were mentioned in the article but not shown in the episode. It's possible that we didn't see the worse of Kate Gosselin.
Hippie Chick... I think you are so spot on with your comments about Sarah being so intentionally hospitable to Kate that it sent her into a royal hissy fit. Your poor MIL. Leave it up to Kate Gosselin to make someone who never curses use expletives...lol. Sarah and her whole family were genuinely interested in making sure the kids were having a good time and they did a great job of ignoring that idiot Kate's tantrum in the background. I'm sure it further pushed her over the edge to be ignored like that. But it was so sad to see little Aaden sitting alone beside Sarah roasting that marshmallow when Kate walked up to her with her "Oh hail great Amazon woman, we're leaving" remark. What a BITCH!!
Following Kate Gosselin's televised (and rough) camping trip with Sarah Palin, the mom of eight is now telling friends she too has political ambitions and would some day like to run for office.
"Honestly, Kate is unbelievable," an insider tells me. "Her ego is out of control at this point. Ever since 'Dancing With the Stars,' and the fact that she appeared on more consecutive covers of US Weekly than any celebrity ever, she thinks that she has what it takes to run for office."
This has to be made up right? If true, further proof she is totally delusional.
This woman needs to be taken away in a straitjacket.
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Probably made up.
Can you imagine what a nightmare Kate would be in public office?
The only public office she is capable of holding is "Sheriff of Terrytoons" with Steve as her "Deputy Dawg"...
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DEFLECTION. DEFLECTION. DEFLECTION.
Probably just another rumor.
Another PR tactic to change the topic away from the negative press stemming from the camping fiasco.
Just like the mid-week new hairdo (which doesn't look all that different).
Hippie Chic said... I wonder if Palin ever watched an episode of K+8 & said "Hmmm, I know how to rile this one up. I'll be extra nice to her kids, I'll be extra sweet, charming, I won't let her see me get upset, etc"...It's like Sarah Palin KNEW how to piss off Kate. (I watched a clip) She was playing right into Kate's evil hand. It was awesome, really. The way Palin interacted w/ Kate's kids was great. (If only Kate knew how to mother how her kids) I really think that right there was irking the crap out of Kate, like NO ONE mothers my kids better than me...I don't know, just a thought. Sarah did a great job of being one step ahead of Kate with her words & actions. Does that sound right?
I agree with you that Kate may have been irked about Sarah's superior parenting skills, but not because Sarah did anything extra special to egg her on. IMO, Sarah, her father, mother, children and brother did what they normally do - they were polite, patient, gracious, and took time to educate others about their leisure activities in the state they call home. I think Sarah and family would have treated anyone the same as they did Kate's.
Well, I buckled and watched a bit of the show on youtube. I had to laugh when Sarah was needling Todd about why he kept fishing rather than join the rest of them...and the look he gave her made it clear that he was avoiding Kate. And then Sarah made a sound that indicated she totally agreed with him but then said "you're not as stupid (or dumb) as you look". Hehehe.... it implied that he looks stupid...though I'm sure she in no way meant it to be taken in this way....just an unfortunate phrasing issue. But it was a funny faux pas.
I'm perplexed over what 'anon on this' wrote here....that Kate basically got reamed out by TLC. On the one hand, I can see TLC being angry but on the other hand, I could see them being thrilled with Kate's obnoxious performance...in terms of the viewership it would bring and the press it would get for Sarah's show. I'm not altogether sure what TLC's business strategy is at the current time. Kate certainly brought in viewers for Sarah's show but for the long run? Not sure what TLC plans to do with her. Or what sort of behavior they are trying to showcase now. It appears to be that they are showcasing Kate's obnoxious side....but not sure if there's any sort of long-term future in this for TLC. Would love to know what their plans for Kate are and how they are viewing this whole Alaska debacle right now.
I also agree that Kate is most likely not bipolar and also not technically Asperger's either...but she absolutely does have an inability to act appropriate socially or to interact appropriately with others. The person who observed that was right on the money....though I'm not sure what type of psychopathy this would be due to....or if her extreme form of narcissism could explain it. I am sure, however, that she is a malignant, abusive narcissist. There are degrees of narcissism but she is definitely at the extreme end of the spectrum. The worst I've ever seen, actually.
I really hope the kids sue the pants off of TLC one day. They had to have witnessed some disturbing behavior, but only saw dollar signs. They have completely enabled her, and created a monster in the process. Whatever personality disorder she had before, has been amplified by the show. I think they know they have a certifiable nutcase on their hands, but rather than do the right thing, they are standing by, waiting to film her inevitable breakdown. They don't care that 8 little lives are being destroyed, it's sick.
Thank you K8Sucks. I've been trying to figure out who sponsors that child exploiter. Cross Patagonia off my list, along with LLBean, GAP, Stride Rite, Gymboree, Juicy Juice, All State and Johnson & Johnson. I'm so glad it wasn't Eddie Bauer or The North Face. I love their outdoor gear. But I wouldn't hesitate to boycott either one if they BRAND those children like cattle.
Don't Speak for the Children said... Go Away Kate said...
Its not even about how rude she is on the Alaska trip. . .
Those kids ALL know how they live is not right. That she isnt like other mommies. They wonder why she is mean to them. They want to know why she doesnt like them. Why people look at them and she doesnt protect them. Why she doesnt have friends. Is Steve gonna be our daddy? I love MY daddy. Why doesnt she just sit by me or hold my hand nicely? Why is she always mad? Why do i always have to go away? Why is she always tired?
Thats what they think.
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You're able to read the minds of eight children that you don't know? That's quite a feat.
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I have nothing to do with the original comment about what the children think but I agree with it whole heartedly. As an adult child of a mother who is very much like Kate, I can certainly tell you that when I was little I had the same feelings. I was embarrassed by my mother, emotionally hurt by her harsh treatment and lived a life of uncertainty not knowing what her mood would be like from moment to moment. I remember knowing that people KNEW our family was different. I KNEW we were always being watched because she drew attention to herself so often.
So, no, we cannot read those children's minds. But we have empathy. And some of us have very similar experiences.
Also, I spent many years as an adult wondering "why didn't anybody help us.....?" And I will bet my last dollar those children are going to spend many years wondering the same thing.
You may be right, amazon mommy- but considering the comments from many neighbors, and people that crossed paths with Kate, it appears that she's not acting- she really is dumb, insulting, rude and a hypocrite...
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Kate was not acting. She really is that dumb, insulting and rude.
Kate is always talking about how Mady is not an "outdoorsy" girl, and yet, on this trip, Mady was out fishing, helping with the campfire, making S'mores and having a great time just like the other kids. We didn't see her complain once (although, that doesn't mean she didn't, I suppose.) She even had a confessional about how much she enjoyed fishing. I think Kate projects a lot of her own negative attitude onto Mady, but this episode showed that when around people other than her controling mother, Mady is capable of experiencing new things and even having fun outdoors.
I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
------------------------ I wouldn't even admit to wondering about that. It's nobody's business but the Palin family. Vicious rumors are capable of destroying lives.
Just have to throw my 2 cents in here since my 13 yr. old does have Aspergers and I don't see Kate having it at all. She,IMHO, is a narcissist and a sociopath....very different from Aspergers. Contrary to popular belief people on the autism spectrum do have empathy and feelings for others -they just show it different than "typical" people. Kate doesn't show empathy at all- she's just really mean. Oh I also forgot that usually Aspergers people are really intelligent - Kate well....she's pretty dumb.
I re-read the National Enquirer article from August, about the camping trip,and wonder why they did not include the panning-for-gold activity, where one of the tups "found" a gold ring while doing it. It sounded like it was a positive activity, and since there were not too many of them, I wonder why they did not include it in the episode on Sunday?
Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
I just had a look at some of the comments on the TLC site (Kate's blog). People are not shy about expressing their thoughts on the Alaska show. Don't know whether Kate looks at them but I hope the powers-that-be at TLC tale note.
I read somewhere that TLC is tired of Kate and can't drop her b/c her contract goes through Feb. 2012. If it's true, why are they suddenly NOW tired of her? They saw how she was when she and Jon were still married. They knew her behavior. Why weren't they tired of her then?
Also, I saw a sheeple comment yesterday- don't remember the site, but the person said, "come on, Kate's a mom of 8 kids. Give her a break."
Just b/c you have 8 kids doesn't give you the right to be rude and say, "Well, someone's gotta be miserable." Michelle Duggar has 19 kids and she would've helped Sarah get food ready, etc. I still can't believe people are defending Kate even now.
Sarah Palin, how desperate are you? Kate Gosselin, really?
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un-morphed said...
I re-read the National Enquirer article from August, about the camping trip,and wonder why they did not include the panning-for-gold activity, where one of the tups "found" a gold ring while doing it. It sounded like it was a positive activity, and since there were not too many of them, I wonder why they did not include it in the episode on Sunday? ----------
It was already shown on the Kate Plus 8 Alaska special.
Additionally, the Palins were not present during the Gosselin's panning-for-gold activity. They might have planned it for the camping trip, but maybe it didn't pan out (no pun intended).
I'm curious what Kate's reaction was upon seeing the non-toilet; maybe that was the last straw that put her over the edge.
LisaNH said... Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
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I think I can answer that.
She thinks when she behaves this way, she is being a strong, bold woman and that this is a trait that is unique to her and is to be envied by other women.
She thinks it's cute and endearing and admirable to be so bossy and crabby and not care what people think.
She.is.dead.wrong.
She also thinks she's she's just so adorable and that everybody is attracted to her...even women...because of the way she portrays herself.
This deluded sense of self makes her think this is HER world and everybody else is just in it to make her happy. If you don't make her happy, she will let you know about it. She feels deeply that the world owes her.
Rachel, thank you for your reasoned reply regarding Aspergers Syndrom. I have a child with a different kind of disorder, and have learned how much the general public does NOT know about mental illnesses.
There is currently a court case on the TV program "In Session," dealing with a boy who has Aspergers. I'm wondering if that's why it was mentioned here. A new word to toss out there. A little information can, indeed, be a dangerous thing.
"Why do people think pretending to be homeless is fun? I just don't get the concept."
What Kate was thinking:
"Why are these people being nice and having a great time and getting along? Why aren't they spazzing out about this weather? I just don't get the concept."
I have a nephew with Asperger's and you're absolutely correct...very intelligent and a huge amount of empathy for others. The one and only feature that would be seen in Kate would be the social inappropriateness and that could be due to a whole lot of personality disorders...not necessarily Asperger's. My nephew is one of the sweetest guys you could meet...NOTHING like Kate.
Kate does not have Asperger's nor, IMO, does she have bipolar disorder...mainly because I do not see the fact that she's miserable with the children but happy when away from them as the classic mood swings of bipolar disorder....which are due to chemical imbalances, not situational factors. They will swing from manic to depressed, regardless of the situation.
But she definitely has some major psych problems, among them being a malignant, abusive narcissist and, IMO, some sort of sociopath.
As for the question of "what does she get from this behavior?"....I don't think that in her case she is intentionally behaving this way to "get" something on any conscious level. It is simply who she is....a narcissist behaving like a narcissist does. One who sees the world as a classic narcissist does and behaves accordingly.
The underlying factor with narcissism is supposed to be insecurity...but I think there are a whole lot of underlying factors, including need for attention and need for conflict. They say that we don't do anything unless there is something in it for us....but most of us (such as co-dependents like me) are not consciously aware of what the pay-off for their behavior is....though according to psych professionals, there has to be one....the whole concept of "I do it because I love the pain".
It's very easy for me to see that Kate is a classic narcissist....but very difficult to see an underlying insecurity issue when it comes to her....due to her arrogance and rudeness. That doesn't mean that's not the underlying factor in her case....just that it's difficult for me to see it. But I don't think that on any sort of conscious level, Kate is intentionally and specifically behaving the way she does to "get something" out of it. But on a subconscious level, she's doing it due to whatever the factors are that underlie her severe form of narcissism and sociopathy.
Over at Kates Take blog are the most scathing comments from former fans. One after another. I only read the first page, but not one favorable comment. Sooo many are finally seeing Kate for what Kate really is.
Regarding Lisa's question about what kind of satisfaction some people get from being rude to others:
My previous boss was a narcissist I'm sure. She loved having power over us and seemed to get a kick out of making us do something that was uncomfortable, or that we didn't want to do.
For example, she used to make us come in the office on weekends when there was no air conditioning and tell us it cost too much to run it on the weekends.
If she knew we didn't want a particular assignment, she would be certain to give it to us.
She loved the power she had to make people do something they didn't want to do.
Red Alert!! Bill O'Reilly is going to comment on Kate Gosselin's Alaska Camping trip. It should be interesting!! Too bad he doesn't have Kate on the show live. He'd have her babbling like more of an idiot she already is.
LisaNH-- We will never understand it because we aren't wired that way, and that's something I'm very grateful for--I don't want to be able to understand Kate because that would require going to a place in myself that I'm not even sure I possess, and if I did I wouldn't like it very much!
What's interesting to me is that people ignored her being rude to her own husband and children and family for years, but all it takes for the tide to turn is one hour of her being rude to someone else's family. Truth will out, they always say...people are jumping off the K-Train left and right over at the fake blog.
I also wanted to mention a scene from the show....the one where the Todd Palin was carrying Trig in their house/living room as Kate and her children sat and watched.
And I feel sure that Kate did not reflect right then on the fact that while she was also at high risk for having children with birth defects, due to having (IVF) multiples, that she'd been so fortunate....more fortunate than many others, including the Palins...to have had every single child born in good health. And that she should be so grateful.....which I feel pretty sure that she's not.
It was quite a symbolic scene, IMO....to have the mother of multiples, all of them completely healthy....looking at a father carrying his Down's syndrome child. I'm sure that the significance of this was lost on her, however, and did not cause her to realize how very lucky she is.
Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
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Well, judging from the way Kate interacts with people, I'm going to guess and say that she "gets off" on mistreating people because she has an Inferiority Complex- has extremely low self-esteem, and is very insecure.
For the sake of her children, I hope she seeks help and has a break-through, not a mental breakdown.
Red Alert!! Bill O'Reilly is going to comment on Kate Gosselin's Alaska Camping trip. It should be interesting!! Too bad he doesn't have Kate on the show live. He'd have her babbling like more of an idiot she already is.
I just had this good feeling a whole wave of Kate fans would defect and it's happening. Yippie! I think the point made about seeing Kate hurt another family is so key. I think while it might be easy for us here who have had Kate's number for five years to imagine all along being in the victim's shoes (maybe because a lot of us have been victims of narcissists ourselves to varying degrees, myself included), but for people who have not been in that position, maybe it took actually SEEING another family be the victim for them to be able to put themselves in that situation and imagine what it must be like to be Kate's victim. It took the visual of Kate hurting another family for them to "get it." If that's what it takes, whatever, I'm just glad they've seen the light.
Speaking of putting yourself in Kate's shoes, for the two fans left, why not put yourself in Piper's shoes or Sarah's shoes? Or the children's shoes who wanted to stay???? Why just Kate's shoes? I will never understand why you would leap to the defense of Kate over those eight kids, I don't get it.
And there was a fabulous comment about how Kate wouldn't let the children quit when they were vomiting on the boat--the children shouldn't have let Kate quit when she was a little wet. What's the difference? THERE IS NONE.
It is a control thing I think, largely. Narcissists do indeed get off on being able to say or do things to other people and watching the dominos fall as they do so. It is almost sexual to them they get such pleasure out of it.
My narcissist would do things like say oh can you meet us here at 2 p.m.? Then not show up. Then when you called to find out where she was, she would act like oh we were supposed to meet at 2? She got OFF on the control of knowing someone would be waiting somewhere and she wasn't showing. It was like she just loved to sit at home and picture the other person standing there looking at their watch. It was really creepy actually. Although let me say I thought she was bad until Kate. She's got NOTHING on her. I found myself thinking lately gosh she was a good mom in so many ways if you put aside those few narcissistic traits.
She was also a hoarder who kept every single bottle of hotel shampoo claiming she would use it someday, even though she is worth $15 million.
I think explaining why a narcissist does what they do is like trying to explain why a person seeks to get together with another person in an intimate way.
People just have a drive to be intimate, and narcissists have a drive to revolve the world around them.
National Enquirer was snooping around the Westbrooke Development a whole 6 months before the rest of the stories broke. I don't know who their contacts are but they were over here first.
un-morphed said... I re-read the National Enquirer article from August, about the camping trip,and wonder why they did not include the panning-for-gold activity, where one of the tups "found" a gold ring while doing it. It sounded like it was a positive activity, and since there were not too many of them, I wonder why they did not include it in the episode on Sunday?
They panned for gold during one of the Kate Plus 8 episodes. I guess the NE article got a few of the excursions mixed up and thought they were all for the Palin show. I'm not sure they would have had time to do that in the 2 hours the Gosselins were at the campsite with the Palins anyway.
The book, "The Sociopath Next Door", by Martha Stout is an excellent read. And no, not all sociopaths snap and kill people. In fact, most don't. They manipulate others for their own gain without thinking about how their actions harm others; they just don't care, hence lack of a conscience.
dee3 said... I also wanted to mention a scene from the show....the one where the Todd Palin was carrying Trig in their house/living room as Kate and her children sat and watched.
And I feel sure that Kate did not reflect right then on the fact that while she was also at high risk for having children with birth defects, due to having (IVF) multiples, that she'd been so fortunate....more fortunate than many others, including the Palins...to have had every single child born in good health. And that she should be so grateful.....which I feel pretty sure that she's not.
Yes, Kate should be grateful for having 8 health children, however they were born with the assistance of IUI, not IVF.
Kate administered a few hormone shots to herself which stimulated the production of eggs and then she and Jon fertilized them the old fashioned way.
She wasn't even near the fire when her OWN CHILDREN were there. If there was a fire like that and I had 6 6year olds (let alone just one) you bet your A$$ I would be standing right there with them, watching them and 'training' them how to handle it.
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Maybe somebody else has already responded... but do you remember the backyard epi when they used a fire pit to roast marshmallows? Kate complained that one of the kids would walk too close to the fire, and she demanded that Jon make sure they didn't. She was shreiking about them even walking around. Once again, she made sure somebody other than their mother looked out for the safety of her children.
Kate does not have Asperger's or any type of autism spectrum disorder. I have 5 children - four have autism spectrum disorders ranging from Asperger's to High Functioning Autism. While I am not a licensed professional psychologist or psychiatrist, I can tell you with a certain degree of confidence that Kate does not have Asperger's syndrome. Kate certainly has issues, but ASD's are not among them.
Please check out http://www.aspergersyndrome.org/ or http://autism.about.com/od/whatisautism/f/whatishfa.htm. Both are good sites to educate yourself on Asperger's and ASD's.
I can't say this enough, however (and I apologize if it seems as if I'm jumping all over you. I don't mean to offend, at the same time my children have enough challenges without people comparing them to Kate Gosselin):
Kate Gosselin DOES NOT have Aspeger's Syndrome or High Functioning Autism.
Another update on Bill O'Reilly, looks Sarah and Kate will be on the Pinheads and Patriots segment where the audience decides. If it's about Kate,I'll be voting Pinhead for suere LOL.
Midnight Madness said... There are people (Steve especially) that know what goes on behind closed doors. My question is why aren't they talking?
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It's called a CA. If they talk, she'd take them for everything they're worth.
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If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract. Kate has no power to sue someone who reports true incidences of child abuse. And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
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I let this comment through to show the sheeple for who they really are--mean, vicious, nasty people who go after kids.
It does not surprise me that the same people (what's left of them) who think it's just fine and dandy that Kate chew up, spit out, and completely destroy eight precious innocent children's childhoods have no problem saying such vicious, vile things about a two-year-old with Down's Syndrome.
Your comment is absolutely disgusting. It's about a child. A child who can barely speak yet and is special needs.
These are the few fans that are left of Kate, vicious people who go after innocent babies who have no say.
Admin said...She was also a hoarder who kept every single bottle of hotel shampoo claiming she would use it someday, even though she is worth $15 million. ========= Long ago I said I thought Kate was a hoarder. The organizing epi where the pros came in to get her basement in order showed the shelves loaded with bottles upon bottles of laundry detergent, toilet paper, etc. Hoarding is another classic characteristic of narcissism. They have a fear that someone else might get the stuff they want. Their needs are far more important than anyone elses afterall. The things that are most important to others are trashed and we've witnessed Kate do that without blinking. I'll bet the mansion is full of crap she doesn't need and will never use.
I think I just figured something out. Kate was talking about a lodge when she got off the plane. I think there was a building with walls and heat available in the park (probably a short boat ride away from the sand bar). Kate opted for that because her comfort was more important than her kids' fun (or education). I thought before that she had made Todd fly them out (since his would probably have been the only plane available). Now I am not so sure. Sarah asked Piper if she wanted to walk them to the "boat". Maybe she actually meant boat and not boat plane. Who knows. Kate was still snotty and truly ridiculous.
If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract...And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
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Unfortunately, that's not true. It's not mandatory to report it if a person, such as Steve, or the crew witnessess it. PA is specific about those who must report it or else face penalty. Morally, I would certainly hope that those report abuse if they see it, regardless if they are physicians, teachers, etc. (those included on the list of those who must report it). Legally, they do not have to report it. If those people want to keep their jobs and not get involved in such a sticky mess, they're going to keep quiet about it. Is it right? Of course not, but some people are like that...
Although we're swaying slightly off topic, this is interesting. This is a forum where people are talking about personal experiences with narcissists and hoarding. Sure enough someone is talking about a very wealthy person who hoards, just like wealthy Mrs. X and her hotel shampoos.
Most of them suspect it's related to the control issue. While a narcissist might not be the TV drama type hoarder with every single room in the house full to the ceiling with crap, it's more likely you will open up a rubbermaid and find a million little shampoos dating back to 1991, or in Kate's case, dozens and dozens of various products.
Because control is such an issue for a narcissist, they fear losing control in all kinds of forms, including financially. They want to stockpile things to a bizarre degree in case the money runs out. They don't think if I stockpile all those shampoos they will be old and expired before I ever use them.
In the beginning of the show Kate was tolerable. She's never happy but at least at Sarah's fathers house she seemed interested and cordial. Is it possible something happened in between? Is it possible that the rumored Mady shaking happened somewhere before they went camping? Being exposed for what she really is like that could have been the real reason Kate was so hateful and wanted out of there so badly??? Just a thought.
"What is interesting about liviing with an N, is that THEIR stuff is hoarded and kept for YEARS, but anyone else's stuff is fair game for them to abuse, throw away, destroy, whatever. They don't seem to have any sense of boundaries even in this area."
Wow, who does THAT remind you of? Grandpa Gosselins xmas ornaments that belonged to the twins? TRASHED.
I like Canada's law, everyone is a mandatory reporter.
Sadly Mom in Lancaster is right, none of those people are mandatory reporters.
Jodi and Kevin TRIED to speak out and were raked through the coals. I wonder if they spoke out today when most of the public is now onto Kate, if it would go over better.
I was responding to someone saying that Kate could not even have a casual conversation in the car with Sarah Palin; that regular back and forth conversation was difficult for her. I specifically said (third time now) if she has a touch of Asperger's it in no way explains her myriad of other disorders. I also said Asperger's doesn't equal evil, and Kate is evil. I was referring to the way she barks out commands, but two-way conversation just doesn't come naturally to her. I'm sorry I offended you. I understand that it has to be a very touchy subject with you. I have two siblings who are bi-polar and two nephews and a Godson on the Spectrum. Some of her behaviors remind me of them. Some. In no way, ever, did I mean her sheer evilness. Just that one, specific area. I know a lot of troubled people, I actually study personality disorders, and I would never call Asperger's a personality disorder, and the only person I compared Kate Gosselin to was Susan Smith. Yes, I think she is as pure a sociopath as I have ever experienced, even from a distance.
May God bless you and your children. I would never compare an innocent child to Kate Gosselin. I'm very sorry it hit you that way.
I don't think Just Wondering is a sheeple. I've seen this person's posts here and there for quite a while, and the posts were definitely anti-Kate. Notice the avatar, as in "drinking the Gosselin Kool-aid," meant to be sarcastic, I believe... Hasn't Just Wondering often been the lone warrior doing battle for our side on a certain Kate fan site...?
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I let this comment through to show the sheeple for who they really are--mean, vicious, nasty people who go after kids.
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I was wondering why this comment wasn't deleted, but I do see your point. This represents not only sheeple mentality, but also their vindictiveness. In this case, it's better to let sheeple such as this wallow in their own barnyard and stay with their own kind, rather than to come to the other side and infiltrate the thinking of the good people who have no desire to "wonder" about the kind of garbage that has the potential to do damage to children and their families.
I think there are many who have had their eyes opened to what Jodi and Kevin were saying. It took awhile, but the truth always comes out.
The dark side is wondering what happened to cause poor sweet Kate to act so out of character. I know what happened. It rained. Kate has seen The Wizard of Oz--she knows what happens if she gets wet.
Back to mandatry Caadian reporting of suspected child abuse...
I just flashed back to last summer...a child was crying and wailing to wake the dead and 2 adults were arguing and breaking things. ( This was a 3 story building across the street from me)
I went out with phone in hand trying to figure out what was up...so did 2 other of my close neighbours...we all clled 911, they came and turned out there were 2 apts involved..baby was safe, couple fighting moved out.
I look back and think it was a good thing we did...what if that child had been in the middle of it...atleast my neitghbours would have Called if I didn't hear it
BLIND ITEM This reality star, well not really anymore thank goodness. Anyway, she recently got a $2,000 hair cut and did not tip anyone. She also said thank you to just one person and that was her bodyguard when he opened the door for her. Classless
If Kate ever DOES decide to run for office, she will lose by a landslide.
On another note, was watching some J&K + 8 moments on YouTube, and couldn't believe what I saw.
1. On one episode, they were having a yard sale in front of some building (not sure what it was), and they had a sign that was supposed to say "Proceeds benefit pediatric cancer research" and "proceeds" was misspelled; it said "prodceeds." Kate threw a fit and had the WHOLE stack of fliers thrown away. Simply because a word was misspelled.
2. In another episode, Kate slaps Jon on his cheek, then looks embarrassed and quickly rubs his cheek and tries to justify that it's a "love tap". Jon says something about "I take abuse from her, save me" and Kate goes, "don't play the victim. It's unattractive in a man when he acts victim-ish." Yet now she always plays victim, claiming she can't pay bills, she's a mom of 8 kids, they need the show, she's so lonely, etc. Note again her use of adding "ish" to words- victimish, waterish, slimmish, etc.
3. In the episode where one of the door knobs comes off a door and Kate asks the little kids about it; when she asks the girls, one of them (I think Alexis) tells her it was Hannah, and Kate doesn't ask Hannah about it. Later the girls say the boys did it, and Kate goes to the boys' room. Has Kate favored Hannah since the day she was born, or how old was she before Kate started favoring her? Sorry if this sounds dumb.
FL Mom said... I am so curious to know what happened at the end of that trip. As Kate was gathering her reluctant kids to leave the campsite, she had to yell to Maddy to come (the twins were talking to Willow and another young adult, and Willow was saying to them "have fun keeping warm tonight"). I wonder if tit was at this point that the "shaking" incident took place. I can picture Maddy digging in her heels and saying "I want to stay here with all these nice people!"
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Admin corrected my same assumption about this some time ago. Actually, the picture of Upset Mady happened during the filming of Kate Plus 8 in Alaska; the camping adventure with the Palins was an entirely different day. When the picture was taken, they hadn't yet met the Palins.
That's not to say that Mady didn't get upset again when told she was leaving the sandbar.
Mom In Lancaster County said... If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract...And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
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Unfortunately, that's not true. It's not mandatory to report it if a person, such as Steve, or the crew witnessess it. PA is specific about those who must report it or else face penalty.
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Well, that's disappointing to learn about PA's laws. BUT, I would imagine that no confidentiality agreement trumps reporting child abuse, no matter what your agreement is. SO, if there is abuse going on in the G household, each and every employee would not be "punished" for reporting it to the proper authorities.
Long ago I said I thought Kate was a hoarder. The organizing epi where the pros came in to get her basement in order showed the shelves loaded with bottles upon bottles of laundry detergent, toilet paper, etc. ----------
I thought those were all free products/donations supplied by companies (but not official sponsors since some of them were turned backwards).
BerksPa said... When Kate is looking at the moose dog she asks one of the kids "What is it?" She is told that it's a Moose Dog by one of the tups? and then the child says "I didn't touch it with my hands".
I'm wondering (aloud) why one of the kids would make sure that was said and Kate knew that? Does Kate REALLY think her kids are that icky?
Berks, in the episode when the tups made cupcakes for their birthday, Jon and Kate, especially Kate, talked about how they never ate anything the kids made or touched because their hands were icky and full of germs. I just caught that in H8K8's ugly moments montage.
I cant stop thinking about this: the "crying". under the tent she was literally walking in circles, then the "crying". It reminded me of the utah trip. Her "crying" on the plane. She was liked a caged animal. No lashing out, bullying, bringing the world to a stop so everyone could look to her needs, like usual. She went to the "crying". Her unsteady voice, again the circiling, not her usual tactics. Why?
Another thing I cant get over. She tries to portray herself as this over the top capable mom/person, but she cant seem to do anything by herself. Furniture - Beth. Clothes - Jon. Organizing - Organizers. Mothering - anybody with a pulse.
The hoardering thing. . my husband was watching one episode with me (early years) and asked why they never showed her and jon's bedroom. i told him that i dont think i remember them discussing it. (previous house, not the mcmansion). then i remember seeing an episode where one of the kids was coming out from their room, the door was barely opened, but you could see "piles". I remember thinking: what a mess in there. Hmmm.
Asperger Disease? No, Kate doesn't suffer from Aspergers.
Kate has isolated herself from the outside world to the point that she doesn't know how to get along with other people, hence the reason for Steve.
Kate's isolation and her narcissistic tendencies may cause her to feel uncomfortable around people who are healthy, functioning individuals. And that's what we saw in the car with Sarah Palin. Kate can't bully Sarah and it made Kate feel awkward. Remember Kate is used to bullying her kids and not interacting with adults.
Did anyone else notice the times when Kate was condescending to the Palins. Kate treated the Palins like Hillbilly trash that were inferior to her. That was another defense mechanism. Kate can't handle a loving, positive family so she has to trash them too.
Funny how her attitude has cost her fans and could cost her the TLC contract. We will just have to wait and see.
Go Away Kate said... I cant stop thinking about this: the "crying". under the tent she was literally walking in circles, then the "crying". It reminded me of the utah trip. Her "crying" on the plane. She was liked a caged animal. No lashing out, bullying, bringing the world to a stop so everyone could look to her needs, like usual. She went to the "crying". Her unsteady voice, again the circiling, not her usual tactics. Why?
I think it's because she didn't really have much of an audience when camping. Everyone pretty much left her to her own misery. The cameras were mostly busy with the kids and the only people paying much attention to Kate at the time was production people.
I do think Kate's naturally prone to throwing tantrums to get her way and for attention, but I believe that she puts on much more of a show when the cameras are rolling. Kate likes attention - especially from males (watch her when she's talking to a male, it's much different than with a woman) and she's also very conscious of the camera's presence. No, I don't believe she's 'acting' on the show. But, I do believe she's 'acting out' more when she knows they're focused on her.
Seeing as ALLLLL the early "rumours" of Kate's behaviour, rudeness etc. came to be true, I REALLY believe that the shaking incident is also true. Although there's a pic of Mady crying, that was not when they were with the Palins. We've seen Mady crying before (mostly because she doesn't tow the line for her mother's charades)so nothing new there. Too many reports from that Alaska escapade have turned out to be FACTUAL.
Just Googled Chelatna Lake Lodge and found the following: It has luxurious chalets, fine dining and a SPA. It costs $695 per person per day so why would Kate condescend to eat that crap Sarah was offering, why would she bother herself to pitch in and do any of the myriad chores necessary in making a successful camping experience. If she just pouted and whined and cried someone would finally recognize her superiorness and get her off to the $695 per person per day catering that is only her due. Kate was shocked that Sarah actually CHOSE to stay out in a tent (a free tent) rather than to be pampered and catered to. What real rich person would do that?? Kate has no idea of Value. She only sees Price. She stole a once-in-a-lifetime experience from her kids so she could be pampered yet again. (And I know she didn't bother tipping, either. Why would she--the lodge had the privilege of having HER to wait on. They should tip her, not the other way around.)
No, I don't believe she's 'acting' on the show. But, I do believe she's 'acting out' more when she knows they're focused on her. ~~~ I think the only time Kate could be considered "acting" is when or IF she was appearing to be cordial and nice. THAT would be acting on her part.
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I let this comment through to show the sheeple for who they really are--mean, vicious, nasty people who go after kids."
You really need to correct this statement. Just Wondering is one of the biggest anti-Kate people around. She has left comments on some of the other blogs she frequents that are anti-Kate blogs about making this comment. She has left a few other comments here lately asking you all to stop watching the show.
I am not sure why but she has something against this site.
I don't know if you can answer this, but, just in case, I was wondering if you know anything about the Mady shaking incident? -----------
The children are slapped, pinched, pulled, shaken, hit, all the time. Kate calls it spanking and discipline. She honestly feels it is her right to do, and is necessary to enforce her authority. She is very intent at all times on 'enforcing her authority' with the children and her hired help. This is not something she is likely to be talked out of or corrected with education. To her it is like breathing, it is part of her DNA or something. So is the bullying, which is getting worse and now you all have seen it with your own eyes.
I dont know if the Palins witnessed anything.
yes, it was reported at least once that I know of. She uses the 'I have 8 and you dont know what that's like' excuse and for some reason, that works! I don't get it.
I also want to repeat something Ihave posted before - What bothers me a great deal is the children are being medicated. I believe Kate is using Benedryl, for the sedation side effect and has nearly everyone convinced it is their 'medicine'. I have no way of knowing if this medicine is needed, and I cannot bring myself to advocate for ignoring a mother's medication regime for her children - however I encourage my aquaintance to be very careful about this. It disturbs me to my core.
I know many of you dont believe me and that is OK. Everyone should be very skeptical of anything to do with this woman. But believe THIS: she needs to be in a hospital.
The hoardering thing. . my husband was watching one episode with me (early years) and asked why they never showed her and jon's bedroom. i told him that i dont think i remember them discussing it. (previous house, not the mcmansion). then i remember seeing an episode where one of the kids was coming out from their room, the door was barely opened, but you could see "piles". I remember thinking: what a mess in there. Hmmm.
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They did show the bedroom at the old house. It was during the computer/answering questions episode. The closet was a disaster and the room was messy.
Thanks Ugly is as Ugly does. I appreciate the clarification. It sounds like you have a lot on your plate with your sibs, nephew and godson.
I broke a cardinal rule and watched the episode on demand so I could come to my own conclusions. Kate certainly seemed tired but I didn't find her particularly snotty or impolite during the first half of the show (I haven't seen the camping bit yet as my cable company started having issues. I should probably take it as a sign from God to not watch anymore). The conversation in the car struck me as typical given the situation - superficial and polite. Sarah and Willow were on their phones during the car ride, so I don't think either one was particularly going out of their way to become Kate's best friend.
It reminded me of when you go to a family reunion and you are suddenly thrust in with extended relatives you've never really met before. Your conversation is polite and superficial and a little stilted and uncomfortable - there's this unspoken expectation that you'll automatically get along just because you're related. I think in this case, there was this idea that you'll get along because you're both in the entertainment industry.
Kate had good eye contact, she participated in the exchange, she stayed on the topic, she initiated questions - again, nothing there that would strike me as Aspergian. She seemed reserved, but frankly I think she was tired from filming and from having to interact with her kids much more than she probably normally does. And yes, I think she sees Sarah Palin as a rival and that played into it as well. Kate is a solo act - she's not a team player.
I think Kate has issues, as I said before, but they're not because she lacks theory of mind. It's because she was raised by a father who is very similar to her in personality and temperment and hence learned to behave by his example. Also, Kate is very self centered by nature and probably does have issues with narcissistic personality disorder. Her social difficulties come because of that, not because of any neurological impairments as are involved with ASD's.
What is truly sad is she is passing those behaviors on to her own children. Kate made an interesting comment - someone has to be the miserable one. While I agree that you can always control your attitude, I believe that there are people like Kate throughout out society. I think it's why we all react the way we do to her - we all know a Kate Gosselin.
You can be mad at her or you can pity her. I choose to pity her, because truly she lives a life of poverty - she may have a lot of THINGS but she is poor in the things that truly make life rich. Money is just money - it can provide security to a degree, but it's not what matters.
Anon1 - Interesting information. Thanks for posting. As for the benadryl, is she giving it to them throughout the day or is she only giving it to them at night?
As I mentioned, I have children with high functioning autism. Sleep issues can be part of the territory and certainly is in our case. Not just falling asleep, but more falling asleep at 8:30/9:00 p.m. and then waking up at 1 or 2 in the morning and then not going back to sleep until 5:00 only to have to wake up at 7:00 to go to school.
Our pediatrician has prescribed Bendaryl to help with the sleep issues. We try to use it only when our kids are on a sleep disruption cycle. We usually try melatonin before we use the benadryl, but the benadryl does the trick in keeping them asleep through the night. We give them the smallest dose possible.
It's not the uncommon for doctors to suggest it to parents. However you shouldn't use it for more than a week (7 days) and you should use it while really enforcing the bedtime routine. While it makes you sleepy, it doesn't give you a good quality sleep and it isn't uncommon for kids to wake up even more tired or out of it if it's being given nightly.
If the kids are not getting quality sleep, that could explain some of the disruptive behavior, combined with a lack of consistency in their lives. Child Services may come out but it's unlikely they will ever take the kids away from Kate. Things would have to be pretty severe, and Kate has enough help to make sure that doesn't happen.
The kids best bet is for Jon to continue to advocate for the kids, although he wants to avoid running into court for every little thing. The court can get annoyed with that tactic. Hopefully his support has been reviewed and adjusted to reflect his current circumstances. He should look into getting a larger home if at possible, preferably a 4 bedroom. I don't know if he knows anyone that would be willing to cut him a deal with rent in exchange for doing work on the rental or something. Once he's held his current job for a year and has a larger home, he should petition for a review of his custody schedule and ask the court for an increase in visitation. He needs to prove that he is stable and can provide for his kids.
As for Kate, in the next few years the tv gigs will dry up and she'll be at a loss when no one cares about her anymore, when the stores in town stop closing down their shops for her and giving her special treatment, when she can't get an appointment with Ted Gibson, when she can't afford the nannies. As for Steve, I don't what to make of that.
There is something very wrong with Benadryl being prescribed and used to calm children or as a sleep aid. Why would a pediatrician suggest using an allergy medication for something other than what it is intended for? Kate's children shouldn't be given allergy medication unless they have allergies, not to get them to fall asleep. What next, Ambien and/or a xanax? Or are those Kate's drugs of choice along with a box of wine?
I think the incident occurred right before they boarded the plane. It would make sense that they would send an assistant to accompany them to the site and it is possible that she got by because the assistant is the only one that saw it. It wouldn't pay to do that in front of Granpa Palin something tells me.
There was a delay in getting to the plane. The kids were all lined up and the pilot said where are the adults. Cut to editing - then Khate materializes and says yes here we are and she was angry, before she even saw the camp. That would explain why she was so agitated and hostile and downright rude upon arrival. It would also explain her not being as rough on the kids and controlling, until the end. You wouldn't even know she had kids there until she got ready to leave.
I don't think Khate has anything wrong with her. I think she is just a very mean person.
Anon on this said: I know many of you dont believe me and that is OK.
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Believe what? That Kate is bullying, needs to be in a hospital, the kids are slapped, pinched, etc., and that she is controlling and domineering? I think most of us have already figured this out.
You said that you BELIEVE she is using Benedryl. This is your opinion, right? Let's get some proof here, and maybe we would believe you. Speculation is one thing; confirmation is another.
url, often medications are prescribed for other purposes than what they are labelled as on the box. Example is that certain anti-convulsants are very effective for mood stabilization in those with bipolar disorder. If a pediatrician told the mother who posted above to use Benadryl to help her autistic child sleep, then there is no need to doubt her. Benadryl definitely has a strong sedative effect being that it is an antagonist at the H1 receptors. Just because it is marketed as an allergy medication doesn't mean that is the only effect/purpose of the medication. If you read up on some pharmacology you could see the effects of h1 receptor antagonism :)
However, if Kate is using Benadryl on her children I highly doubt it was recommended by a doctor or is being used only during the night.
Her behaviour was absolutely atrocious on this trip as everyone has already stated and I find it absurd that she insists all over the talk shows that this is her job but yet behaves like this?? Who behaves like this at their job? No one, or if they do, they don't have a job for long..
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I let this comment through to show the sheeple for who they really are--mean, vicious, nasty people who go after kids.
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I was wondering why this comment wasn't deleted, but I do see your point. This represents not only sheeple mentality, but also their vindictiveness. In this case, it's better to let sheeple such as this wallow in their own barnyard and stay with their own kind, rather than to come to the other side and infiltrate the thinking of the good people who have no desire to "wonder" about the kind of garbage that has the potential to do damage to children and their families.
I think there are many who have had their eyes opened to what Jodi and Kevin were saying. It took awhile, but the truth always comes out.
Midnight Madness said... There are people (Steve especially) that know what goes on behind closed doors. My question is why aren't they talking?
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It's called a CA. If they talk, she'd take them for everything they're worth.
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If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract. Kate has no power to sue someone who reports true incidences of child abuse. And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract...And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
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Unfortunately, that's not true. It's not mandatory to report it if a person, such as Steve, or the crew witnessess it. PA is specific about those who must report it or else face penalty. Morally, I would certainly hope that those report abuse if they see it, regardless if they are physicians, teachers, etc. (those included on the list of those who must report it). Legally, they do not have to report it. If those people want to keep their jobs and not get involved in such a sticky mess, they're going to keep quiet about it. Is it right? Of course not, but some people are like that...
Red Alert!! Bill O'Reilly is going to comment on Kate Gosselin's Alaska Camping trip. It should be interesting!! Too bad he doesn't have Kate on the show live. He'd have her babbling like more of an idiot she already is.
Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
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Well, judging from the way Kate interacts with people, I'm going to guess and say that she "gets off" on mistreating people because she has an Inferiority Complex- has extremely low self-esteem, and is very insecure.
For the sake of her children, I hope she seeks help and has a break-through, not a mental breakdown.
Regarding Lisa's question about what kind of satisfaction some people get from being rude to others:
My previous boss was a narcissist I'm sure. She loved having power over us and seemed to get a kick out of making us do something that was uncomfortable, or that we didn't want to do.
For example, she used to make us come in the office on weekends when there was no air conditioning and tell us it cost too much to run it on the weekends.
If she knew we didn't want a particular assignment, she would be certain to give it to us.
She loved the power she had to make people do something they didn't want to do.
Rachel, thank you for your reasoned reply regarding Aspergers Syndrom. I have a child with a different kind of disorder, and have learned how much the general public does NOT know about mental illnesses.
There is currently a court case on the TV program "In Session," dealing with a boy who has Aspergers. I'm wondering if that's why it was mentioned here. A new word to toss out there. A little information can, indeed, be a dangerous thing.
Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
------------------------ I wouldn't even admit to wondering about that. It's nobody's business but the Palin family. Vicious rumors are capable of destroying lives.
Kate is always talking about how Mady is not an "outdoorsy" girl, and yet, on this trip, Mady was out fishing, helping with the campfire, making S'mores and having a great time just like the other kids. We didn't see her complain once (although, that doesn't mean she didn't, I suppose.) She even had a confessional about how much she enjoyed fishing. I think Kate projects a lot of her own negative attitude onto Mady, but this episode showed that when around people other than her controling mother, Mady is capable of experiencing new things and even having fun outdoors.
411 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 411 Newer› Newest»Fast national ratings for last night's Sarah Palin's Alaska (awaiting final ratings from Travis Yanan):
"Sunday night's (Dec. 12) episode of Sarah Palin's Alaska featuring fellow TLC reality family the Gosselins topped last week's viewership low, but fell short of the first and third week-numbers, continuing the series roller coaster ride through the ratings.
Alaska earned a 2.1 household rating and 3.1 million total viewers, according to Nielsen fast nationals, up from 2.8 million viewers the prior week.
The reality series has had an uneven performance in the ratings through its first several episodes. After its record-setting 5 million-viewer debut, Alaska fell to 3 million in its second week before it bounced up to 3.5 million in its third."
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/461022-Gosselins_Give_Palin_s_Alaska_Ratings_Bump.php
OK I am not a Kate fan but want to point out to everyone the manipulation that TLC does with editing.
If you go to youtube and watch Pt 4. Look at one of the tup girl's face at the 3:42 minute mark. It is EXACTLY the same shot used in Pt 5 at the 4:23 min mark. The Part 4 shot is used when Chuck is describing bear safety in the campsite. The Part 5 shot is used when Kate tells the kids they are Palins not Gosselins.
I am in NO WAY excusing Kate - for her nasty words and boorish behavior are captured forever on film. And I truly believe the kids were sad to have to leave. She is a trainwreck and those kids are the collateral damage.
However, TLC manipulates us by using the same clip of what looks like sad, forlorn kids in two entirely different scenarios. I think this is the testament that Reality TV is NOTHING like reality.
When she says that people say she's the crazy one?? That's putting it very mildly. How about evil, abusive, sociopath, malignant, sadistic, narcissistic, vile, disgusting, horrible, cruel, moronic, contemptible, slutty, obnoxious, liar....I'm sure you all could come up with many more. But crazy? Let's not sugar-coat things.
I felt so bad for the kids. Kate talks about how her kids are getting such wonderful experiences on their trips and here the kids were so happy just spending time with adults who talked to them and showed them things. That is how family memories are made, spending time together and sharing things. I loved the quote from Sarah's Dad about K8 b*tching from the time they got off the pain, imagine what else he said that didn't make it to the show! He was trying to warm Kate's gloves by the fire but she just wanted to be a prima donna.
http://www.examiner.com/comedy-in-national/review-sarah-palin-s-alaska-brings-kate-gosselin-hilarity-ensues
Those stupid twats on that Facebook page for Kate (that her mom and sister run) are saying that Sarah wasn't showing any hospitality and and blaming Sarah for Kate's misery.
Seriously. Are there really people this ignorant out there? How do these people function in life?
Maybe Kate has fake profiles and she's the one writing these comments? Or could be that kooky sister of hers. She's nuttier than a fruitcake.
Wow, if Kate would say to her children "you are no longer Gosselins, you are Palins" because they wanted to stay, can you imagine what she must say to them in regards to spending time with their father? We can kind of get of glimpse of that in regards to what she said to them about this trip, and the tall tale she spun on Regis about them wanting to come home when they are spending time with their dad. Can you imagine the confusion in the minds of the kids in not knowing what the "right answer" is when their mother puts them on the spot in these situations?
It's all for the ratings folks said...
Does TLC really think this will improve the ratings for Kate Plus 8 or are they trying to get rid of her? I can't for the life of me imagine anyone supporting or wanting to watch her show after this behavior.
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Oh, this is ratings GOLD. On Sunday morning, the Today Show once again promoted the episode and the spin was that this pairing is lightning in a bottle. Big, big time draw.
Two polarizing women...camping and firing rifles etc? It's must-see-tv.
Thanks for all the reports. I didn't watch. It appears that Kate's behavior was even worse than initially reported, or as bad as initially reported.
If you think TLC showed her highness in all her heinousness to "get rid of her" or damage her ratings, think again. TLC is savvy, and Kate is dumb like a fox. The latter knowing exactly how to keep the spotlight on herself and remain in the news and on the tube. Like the reality tv producer said on Small Town Gosselin's blog, the shows aren't scripted, their contrived (paraphrasing here). They put people into situation where they can predict how they'll react, then get the "highlights" to show footage that adhere's to the character's role.
Kate *should* go away, but won't any time soon.
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This Sarah Palin's Alaska episode showcases exactly how to stir up drama and get lots of media attention - take Kate out of her normal element and watch her meltdown. This could be the new "Twist of Kate" show TLC has been trying to put together for the last year - put Kate in awkward and/or challenging situations and see how she reacts. It doesn't work with ordinary citizens (because, unfortunately, Kate thinks she's above them all) but with celebrities doing hobbies they love (and watching Kate trying to fit in while failing miserably).
All of a sudden that Jonny Moseley snowboarding idea doesn't sound so bad. Maybe they should have put her on Skating with the Stars.
All in all, thanks to media and viewers, TLC will now focus on putting Kate in more of these awkward situations and watching her fall apart.
Please, just please, leave the kiddies out of this "Twist of Kate".
Preesi's website alerted me to this one:
Review: 'Sarah Palin's Alaska' reveals that Kate Gosselin is pure evil, annoying
http://www.examiner.com/comedy-in-national/review-sarah-palin-s-alaska-brings-kate-gosselin-hilarity-ensues
(make sure to read the comments- especially the last one by ex-fan Marta)
Kate's losing her fans one by one...
Denise said...
http://www.youtube.com/user/h84kate#p/u/0/4VQCIfCBKp8
Watch it FAST!!
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Thanks Denise..as my jaw dropped I see why even BM's love-fest group sdoesn't have it available.
Being Canadian, we camp every year, we enjoy all the weather, and frankly, I get bored at a closed -in resort.
My and my dd's best memories are around a camp-fire or the first fish we caught...don't remember bug-bites and the cold..sheesh...
Please let this minute number 25..please get those kids a normal view on life and its experiences...after-all, when we die, all we bring with us is our memories, the rest we leave behind...may the 8 start having better life experiences..and good memories
I keep thinking what a different, as in enjoyable the memorable, experience the kids would have had if it had been Jon taking them camping with the Palins.
There is no way that Kate will ever be able to defend the way she acted on this episode. The world got to see the real Kate and another example of the turmoil and emotional blackmail those kids endure being raised by this woman. SHE is the reason for their issues. And she is teaching those kids to be rude and ungracious.
It was clear Kate never wanted to be there and I do wonder also, if on the plane there she tried to tell the children how miserable it was going to be. It was nice watching the kids interact with the Palins, especially Sarah's dad. Gotta love him. It seems Tod didn't want anything to do with her and would have thrown her to a bear if he had the chance. But Kate had to ruin it for the kids once again. Knowing the kids wanted to stay, and just seeing how the kids were enjoying themselves she could have toughed it out. Geez, go stand by the fire if you are cold, fires help keep the bugs away too. Oh no, NOT Kate, it's all about her. Anything she could whine about she did. The last part where they showed the Palins sitting around the fire laughing and having a good time was nice. I think the Gosselin kids would have enjoyed that.
Here's a great article, everyone should read it.
http://www.examiner.com/comedy-in-national/review-sarah-palin-s-alaska-brings-kate-gosselin-hilarity-ensues
It astonishes me how the fans still support this self centered shrew. They still claim that she is just a strong woman and they admire strong women because they are strong women. BS. I know strong women and they are not whining, abusive, bullying, shrieking wenches. Strong women don't behave like this. And frankly, if they consider Kate their hero because they are just like her, God help all their kids. They are in trouble. I love Sarah's Dad, she pegged her after just a few minutes, as well as Todd did. I wonder if Jon saw this and if so what he thought. Oh, well, it doesn't matter what Jon thinks, he's only the father and TLC tells everyone involved in this fiasco just how high to jump and they all obey. Sickening beyonds words.
Didn't Khate once threaten to give the kids to strangers on some episode?
I keep thinking how much fun the kids would have had if Jon had taken them!
Kate Gosselin Loses It on Sarah Palin's Alaska
"I'm miserable," Gosselin whined. "It's killing me that people willingly do this. I just don't get the concept. Why would you pretend to be homeless?"
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2010/12/kate-gosselin-loses-it-on-sarah-palins-alaska/
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Kate is a moron. Not funny too.
Its not even about how rude she is on the Alaska trip. . .
Those kids ALL know how they live is not right. That she isnt like other mommies. They wonder why she is mean to them. They want to know why she doesnt like them. Why people look at them and she doesnt protect them. Why she doesnt have friends. Is Steve gonna be our daddy? I love MY daddy. Why doesnt she just sit by me or hold my hand nicely? Why is she always mad? Why do i always have to go away? Why is she always tired?
Thats what they think.
Im tired of hearing what she thinks. . .
I thought Kate would do anything for her children. She should get docked pay for not following through with the whole camping experience. That Kate sure is a quitter. She quit her marriage, then she quit Sarah Palin’s TV show. When will she quit her children’s TV show? I am ashamed that Kate is from the same state as I. California, do you want her?
When Kate told Sarah that she was leaving, Sarah's first question was, "How are you going to break it to the kids?" It's pretty sad when a total stranger cares more about her children's feelings than she does. That in itself pretty much wraps it up in one sorry-looking package.
I have lurked here for a long time. Just saw the part 4 clip on Youtube. Telling those children, "Fine. Goodbye. You're Palins now, not Gosselins" has me steaming.
It is one of the most outright, egregious examples of *public* emotional and mental abuse of children that I have ever witnessed...
What is it going to take for some kind of powers-that-be to step in and help all eight of those kids??
Kate approaches every situation as if she and the kids are a freak show to be stared and pointed at, no engagement, polite chit chat or conversation required. In fact Kate would rather people just stare and point because she has nothing to offer. She is that self absorbed. She barely even notices the children anymore. They are the nanny's responsibility. Sarah Palin was warm, cheerful and inviting and Kate was just oddly detached. She winced, she scowled, she picked lint off her shirt, and then she bailed. Why do the sheeple love her?
I watched this episode mainly because I'd never watched Kate on TV, I didn't realize how lucky I was to have avoided her. Her behavior affected me on such a visceral level that I found it difficult not to throw something at my TV.
Aside from the expected whining and complaining from Kate The Party Pooper, a few things stood out, at least to me.
1. The kids eyes were so dead and their faces were so blank until Sarah's dad showed them all the interesting things he'd collected. They were paying rapt attention to his explanations and seemed to be enjoying themselves. Of course Kate had to make a frightening comment to the kids regarding the tangled antlers. Good going there Kate.
2.She told those poor kids that "They were Palins and not Gosselins" (paraphrase) because they wanted to stay at the camp. It was fun to watch the kids having fun and learning about Alaska. I thought making the map out of rocks was a great idea. I truly think Kate Gesselin has all the maternal instincts of a pit viper and one day those kids will turn on her.
I watched part 4 on Youtube, thank you Denise.
Is anyone else even more, really, frightenend for those kids? I am.
I knew she was unfit due to her mental illness, but she is so deteriorated now that she cant even fake it for the cameras and money, her two gods.
I am an LISW in Ohio, I want desperatly for the kids to have a few sessions alone with someone, anyone. This has disaster written all over it for 8, count em 8, people.
as for the sheeple and their little editing thing, unless they are claiming that everything was computer generated special effects and some kind of Avatar-Katie, they can just shut up. that was REAL tantrums, REAL rudeness, real whining, real walking-off. And REAL viciousness towards little children that she intended to belittle and frighten, Piper included.
After watching a later repeat of this episode last night, I immediately felt awful for Kate's children. I don't care for SP and haven't watched her show prior to this episode, but I liked her father's honesty and Todd's attempt at distancing himself from Kate and all her drama. Kate's comment to Sarah's young daughter Piper regarding camping was demeaning. And threatening to leave her own children and disowning them is incredibly manipulative, cruel and disturbing. She is depressing to watch and there is something really unsettling about her behavior. She appears very disconnected and uninterested in other people. She is even appears detached from her own children. I haven't watched Kate's show in ages, except for a preview or online clip here or there. Her poor children appear to be props or puppets around her. They don't act like normal, emotionally healthy children. What a sad existence for these children. At least the ratings didn't go up very much for this episode because I truly felt guilty for contributing to any ratings increase. I will never watch a show with her and the children again.
At GWOP, someone commented: as soon as she got off the plane, she said, "Wouldn't a lodge be a lot better than this" as Sarah was smiling and greeting the kids. Sarah's dad put his hand up to Kate to shut her up.
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I only saw Mr. Heath waving hello to her, not
shutting her up. But by the end of Kate's venture into camping, I bet he was plenty ready to shut her up.
To Pink Straight Jacket -
I was the one who wrote that comment on GWOP...where Sarah's dad put his hand up to shut Kate up. It was very quick so I hope everyone caught that especially when Kate yelled that a lodge would be so much better. This was right when they got off the airplane!! I couldn't believe it!!
I could tell Sarah's dad was disgusted by her behavior and I'm glad he shut her up. His body language and facial expression spoke volumes.
I hope admin can locate that on video.
Ingrid said...
Didn't Khate once threaten to give the kids to strangers on some episode?
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Did kHate threaten to leave Cara with strangers at the Statue of Liberty?
I am ashamed that Kate is from the same state as I. California, do you want her?
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Over at GWOP, they voted as to who would get her. It was an interesting discussion - someone from EVERY state voted and gave reasons why they didn't want her there. Some rather funny (and valid) reasons! In addition, they heard from overseas, Australia, UK, New Zealand, Hong Kong, as well as Canada.
TLC is her job and if camping with the Palins was in the script than she should have been made to camp outside period. There are some things we don't care to do in our jobs but we still go to work every day. She says it's her job ,so why does she get a free pass to walk away from work and cry like a 2 year old, any real job and the boss would have told us to take a damm hike if we behaved that way.
"California, do you want her?"
Uh, NO.
Not a chance.
Actually maybe SoCal will take her - in fact she would blend in with all the fake boob, bottled blondes that are a dime a dozen. We definitely do NOT want her anywhere near Northern California though.
What a complete and total waste of space, and doing her best to squander 8 little childhoods, too.
About the you're not a Gosselin Hannah looked so downtrodden when she okay, I'll go. One day they will be old enough to say, "Hey, Khate, guess what, you're the only one of us who is not a Gosselin. That is the one thing you cannot take away from us. We have a father who loves us very and will make a place for us whenever you are ready, and is fighting for us even as we speak."
Isn't it funny, I've read, around the Internet today, some sheeple are abadoning their goddess after last night's fiasco. At the same time, I've read some Palin haterz stating that she was the better person in this whole mess, despite the fact that they still don't like Sarah.
I hope, hope, hope this will be the death knell to Katie's so called "career".
Ugly is as Ugly Does said...
Statement: When Kate left and two seconds later Sarah mentioned that the sky cleared...if that was just editing, brilliant job. If it really happened that way, good job, Heavenly Father.
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Amen.
When Kate first arrived at the Palins' home, it sure looked to me like Sarah was going to hug her in greeting but Kate stopped her and shook her hand instead. Kate had to put her hand up pretty high and it was an awkward hand shake.
Regarding Oprah: not only did she recently camp with Gail but she did a show a few years ago where she entered a 'village' that was set in the 17th century (or something like that). She and Gail lived the life for a couple of days - clothing, food, toilet facilities, sleeping arrangements, work, everything. And Oprah was positive and a good sport about the whole thing.
And yes, she had barely been off the plane before she was insulting her hosts.
As for the sheeple trying to say she was upset about the threat of bears - wouldn't that mean she would hover around her kids and be where they are at all times - not hunched under a tarp whining and staying several yards away? Sorry, I don't know who brought up that excuse that the Kate fans were making.
CJ said... To all that are singing Sarah's praises, she might well be more gracious and a better mother than Kate... but remember Sarah was being paid One Million Dollars to fulfill her contract for this show.
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It's a sure bet, Kate wasn't doing it for free.
gotyournumberKate said... Ok, I'm not done:) I'm sitting here trying to figure out TLC's motive for showing Kate in such a horrible light.
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TLC's motive? It's ALL for ratings...and we are feeding into it! TLC KNEW that there would be a feeding frenzy when they showed Kate in this horrible light! They knew with 100% certainty that all the boards would be lit up like Christmas trees after that episode. They WANT the public to hate her and keep talking about her!! To them, bad publicity or ANY publicity and chatter about Kate, is just as good if not better than good publicity. And here's proof....
"I loathe this woman and her entire brand said... Well, I see the ratings for Palin's Alaska went from 2.78 to 3.1. That's an 11% increase."
Motive mystery solved!!
Go Away Kate said...
Its not even about how rude she is on the Alaska trip. . .
Those kids ALL know how they live is not right. That she isnt like other mommies. They wonder why she is mean to them. They want to know why she doesnt like them. Why people look at them and she doesnt protect them. Why she doesnt have friends. Is Steve gonna be our daddy? I love MY daddy. Why doesnt she just sit by me or hold my hand nicely? Why is she always mad? Why do i always have to go away? Why is she always tired?
Thats what they think.
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You're able to read the minds of eight children that you don't know? That's quite a feat.
I'd be anonymous too said...
here's a history lessons for you. Palin invited Kate to her show for ratings. Kate is the draw, Sarah wants a political future. She mocked another Mom working and supporting her kids. Sarah will be the biggest joke in the next two years when she tries to run for office. No working Mom will want her in office. Palin made a big mistake!!
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Of course, it's all for ratings! Why do you suppose the Gosselins happened to be in Alaska filming? This wasn't a last minute decision by the Palins; it was all part of a TLC cross-over Palin/Gosselin night (which ended in disaster at the expense of Kate herself). I doubt TLC would have spent all that money to bring the Gosselins to Alaska AND NOT interact with the Palins. It was as obvious to many of us as soon as the first Alaska pap photos appeared.
Sarah Palin is probably like all those other media personnel and celebrities who have this impression that Kate Gosselin is some sort of supermom for having 8 kids. They don't really follow all the gossip or watch the show like many of us have in the past, so they really don't know the real Kate until they finally meet her.
Sarah Palin, being the sweet person she appears to be on tv, probably thought this would be a fun trip for all the families UNTIL she actually met Kate. It was quite obvious early on in the episode that the two didn't hit it off. You don't really see them interact with each other, getting to know one another.
Yes, Sarah is a producer for her own show but I didn't see any mocking or ridiculing of Kate's behavior. What we saw was Kate being her natural self when she's out of her normal environment.
While Sarah is producer, TLC ultimately decides what will air on tv and decided to make lemonade out of lemons. TLC knew exactly what type of viewers they would attract with this episode - the same viewers who tuned-in week after week watching Kate on DWTS.
If the camping trip had gone smoothly, would there be such a fuss? Some of us would probably find it boring, like other non-dramatic Kate Plus 8 episodes.
Kartie Dearest said... To Pink Straight Jacket -
I was the one who wrote that comment on GWOP...where Sarah's dad put his hand up to shut Kate up. It was very quick so I hope everyone caught that especially when Kate yelled that a lodge would be so much better. This was right when they got off the airplane!! I couldn't believe it!!
I could tell Sarah's dad was disgusted by her behavior and I'm glad he shut her up. His body language and facial expression spoke volumes.
I hope admin can locate that on video.
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He was telling her to talk to the hand.
No one is reading the children's minds. It's called common sense.
The kids were finally able to express their feelings in this episode, and it was exactly as any of us could have seen with common sense given how much fun they were having on the trip--sure enough, they said they don't want to leave. It was one of the first times the children have actually been able to say how they feel about something rather than just Kate's spin-crap telling us how they feel.
h84k8 said... Michelle said...
So what do you think Kate did with the kids once she got back to the lodge? They were having fun camping, so did she replace it with another fun activity or was Kate in her suite and the kids were "not allowed in under penalty of severeness" and were off with the nanny?
They were with the nanny, that's for sure! Kate reportedly disappeared for 2 days with Steve after leaving the park
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h84k8 - If that's you that has the SPA youtube videos up, thanks. Now that you reminded me of Khate and Steve disappearing for 2 days, and having seen the show last nite, it puts a whole 'nother slant on just where Kate and Steve may have gone?? If he's not her lover, and really is her handler, what do you suppose they would have done those 2 days? Did Khate get raked over the coals from TLC for that little stunt she pulled? Anyone?
That was just painful to watch. Those poor kids looked like they were walking on eggshells, afraid to have too much fun without their mother's approval. When they wanted to stay and had to leave anyway, my heart went out to them. Why bother asking them what they want if you are going to disregard it anyway? They should have left Kate at home.
she knows she brings in the ratings!) Ya'll know - I loathe this "woman" and her entire brand!
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What exactly is Kate's "brand?"
...and I don't mean Ernest and Julio Gallo!
Don't Speak for the Children said... You're able to read the minds of eight children that you don't know? That's quite a feat.
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Someone needs to SPEAK FOR THE CHILDREN, their poor ass excuse for a mother sure isn't doing right by them.
I am just baffled a bit I guess. The fact Kate just stands there doing nothing. Just erks me a bit I guess. Why does she feel the need to complain SO MUCH?! Camping and life in general it just should not be made out to be so hard. But I guess that is Kate's JOB--to make life as inconvient and difficult for everyone else just because she has 8 kids and doesn't want to do antyhing remotely that doesn't involve being pre-scheduled and planned by her TLC that isn't in a dry, warm, catered hotel. She just seems to make it her JOB to be unpleasant, rude, all about her and its so much like my brother it would drive me up a wall if I was Sarah. I would not have waited for her to leave on her own I would have told her, "You were invited, you said yes you would come, you came. If you don't want to be here, you can just leave." I know it would have made Sarah sound a bit mean but even with a camera in my face I could not chose to act any different.
You're able to read the minds of eight children that you don't know? That's quite a feat.
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One doesn't have to be able to read the minds of eight children. One look into their faces tells it all. You know the old adage, "One picture is worth a thousand words?" In this case, one episode speaks volumes.
I know this is off topic and it's no big deal if it doesn't get posted; but I was just looking at the picture of Kate on the heading of the blog (she looks like an evil Mrs. Wiggins) and - OH MY GOSH - I think I have those earrings!!!!
Darn.
Mine are Brighton; I splurged and treated myself to them a few months ago - I wear them nearly every day.
If I can wear Brighton, Kate probably wouldn't, would she? I mean it would be below her, right?
This certainly puts me on the horns of a dilemma.....
This is just a theory I have, and I could be totally wrong. I read on GWOP that when Kate was growing up, her family was very dysfunctional (it still is now). Her father, although a minister, was very domineering, and her mother was more passive-agressive.
I am wondering if Kate was so badly controlled while growing up, and takes her resentment out on her kids. I am also wondering if she is afraid of her domineering father, and instead bullies her kids and ex-husband.
My grandma is controlling (my grandpa passed away in '95 but I've heard he was controlling as well) and they had 6 kids (not sextuplets). My aunt said growing up, she felt like she had to tiptoe around her parents so she wouldn't make them mad, and was often afraid of them.
I remember on J&K + 8, Kate once said that the trips they go on give her kids opportunities; oportunities that she didn't get to have when she was a child. I'm wondering if whenever she sees her kids having fun, it makes her mad b/c maybe she wasn't allowed to have those opportunities and she's jealous and resentful that they do? (But then why wouldn't she enjoy it w/ them?)
Whatever reason, she seems to take great pleasure in denying them stuff they want. They wanted to color at the Crayola factory and eat their decorated cupcakes on the bakery episode; Kate wouldn't let them. They wanted to stay with the Palins in Alaska; Kate wouldn't let them.
The kids DON't want to keep filming and yet Kate makes them. They were so hot and tired in the New York episode and yet they had to keep going.
This is from Popeater:
Following Kate Gosselin's televised (and rough) camping trip with Sarah Palin, the mom of eight is now telling friends she too has political ambitions and would some day like to run for office.
"Honestly, Kate is unbelievable," an insider tells me. "Her ego is out of control at this point. Ever since 'Dancing With the Stars,' and the fact that she appeared on more consecutive covers of US Weekly than any celebrity ever, she thinks that she has what it takes to run for office."
This has to be made up right? If true, further proof she is totally delusional.
This woman needs to be taken away in a straitjacket.
What exactly is Kate's "brand?"
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You'll have to ask Dr. Phil about that. He's the one (we're told) who tried to convince Jon and Kate to stay together for the sake of their
"brand". In other words, troubles aside, you've got something marketable here you don't want to lose.
Awhile back in this post Barb mentioned that Kate talks AT people not WITH people. She barks most of the time. Besides the fact that she's vile, abusive and sociopathic, I've been wondering lately if she has a touch of Asperger's. Not to excuse her for being evil, but among her many other sociopathies, I'm starting to wonder. She doesn't even pretend to have people skills.
dont speak for the kids. . . its actually 16 "feet"
. . . and eight little minds, eight little lives, eight little hearts.
They only get one life. I guess their purpose is to provide for their mom, be her punching bags(emotionally), her therapist.
she can say what she wants. all her back-pedaling can't cover up her actions.
Folks play nice!
Who should really be speaking for the children is a court appointed GAL or attorney trained in representing children who has done a thorough assessment of each and every children and then reporting their findings confidentially. But apparently the judge thinks their parents can speak for them and that's sufficient.
Not in my state.
Kate didn't remember the hand sanitizer (or her manners), but she did remember to bring along the chewing gum and wear eye shadow! Priceless! :-) What a mom!
I cannot imagine how any person could be so dispicable and so ungracious that, when the host cooked food for you, you would have the cahones to whine about it and throw the food on the ground. If I hadn't seen it, I wouldn't have believed it.
Kartie Dearest said...
To Pink Straight Jacket -
I was the one who wrote that comment on GWOP...where Sarah's dad put his hand up to shut Kate up. It was very quick so I hope everyone caught that especially when Kate yelled that a lodge would be so much better. This was right when they got off the airplane!! I couldn't believe it!!
I could tell Sarah's dad was disgusted by her behavior and I'm glad he shut her up. His body language and facial expression spoke volumes.
I hope admin can locate that on video.
You're right -- it wasn't your imagination -- I saw it too.
"Also, in part four when Kate is about to board the plane, she is very rude to the pilot."
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When I was watching this, I was thinking that I would have been totally miserable, too. I'm no camper. However, there is no excuse for rudeness. You don't leave your manners at home. Then I realized that Kate never did have any manners to begin with, so there were no manners to bring along with her.
I have always watched with disbelief that those kids were never taught to say please or thank you. Watch some of the past episodes when they met someone; or when they were handed a gift; or when they were served at restaurants. They watch their mother, and they emulate her. She exudes entitlement, and thanking people just never occurs to her. Did she thank Sarah when they left the campsite? Perhaps so, but we didn't see it. Neither did I see one of those kids saying thank you, nor their mother telling them to do so.
"She mocked another Mom working and supporting her kids."
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What working mom did she mock? Are you referring to Kate as the "mockee"? I think you have that wrong. Kate's kids are supporting her. She's just going along for the ride.
Sarah didn't mock Kate. If anything, she was gracious. As rude as Kate was to her, Sarah really could have gone off on her. But the fur didn't fly. Sarah really showed restraint. If anything (and according to quite a few opinions on various sites), Kate made Sarah look like a saint. If anything, this last episode is going to help Sarah, not hurt her.
Besides the fact that she's vile, abusive and sociopathic, I've been wondering lately if she has a touch of Asperger's
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Asperger's often goes hand-in-hand with bipolar. Someone mentioned that she may be bipolar because of her various mood swings...mean and manipulative when she's with the kids; smiling and happy when she's on her own with Steve. She can change her moods at the drop of a hat. She has a "face" for every situation.
It would be interesting if after all this time Kate wasn't a narcissist at all but rather has bipolar or asberger's or something along those lines.
I have absolutely no idea what she has, only a full psychological evaluation can accomplish that, however if it's not narcissism, some of these others issues can be improved with medication, intensive therapy, and so on. Maybe there is hope? If it's narcissism her kids are pretty much screwed, you simply cannot cure that kind of PD. Not anything any doctor has come up with yet anyway.
Because my BF wants to go to Alaska one day, he has programmed our DVR to record all new episodes of SP's show. He was not home last night so I saw the show and waited until he saw it today before I commented here with his comments:
Re: Piper looking forward to meeting the 8
BF: She likes Kate? Boy is she in for a rude awakening!
Re: Kids throwing bear tongue
BF: Kate doesn't control her kids in someone else's else house?
Re: Sarah's father's house
BF: What a great educational opportunity for those kids!
Re: Bear class
BF: Look at SP, something is going on. Kate does not look like she wants to participate at all. No, not just in this class ... I don't think she is happy ... she is going camping?!
Re: Arrival at campsite
BF: Kate is already bitching about staying at a lodge instead? Big surprise!
Re: Campsite
BF: Wait a minute, everything was set up and all Kate had to do was to show up and she has the nerve to be complaining?
Re: Bug bites
BF: Bitten by WHAT?!?!?! Oh gimme a break!
Re: Hamburgers and hotdogs
BF: Those are not moose hotdogs LOL ... OMG is she just nibbling at it?
Re: Weather
BF: Can't be that cold, those kids have their hands in water and not all are wearing gloves
ME: Someone checked weather in July in AK and I think it was around 50 degrees
BF: She is from PA ... gimme me break! You can tell she did not want to be there from the get go, I can't believe she is just standing under that tent doin nothin but bitchin ... those kids are having fun!
Re: Todd fishing
BF: SMART MAN! I bet he does not even have the right lure because the last thing he wants is to catch something at this point LOL
Re: Kate calling her kids "Palins"
BF: What a C***! What mother says that to her kids?
Re: Piper not saying goodbye
BF: Poor kid seeing Kate's true colors
Re: Last scene where Willow saying she had to go pee and Sarah telling her to knock it off
ME: I think that confirms the report that Kate pitched a fit about having to pee in a bucket with a toilet seat on it.
BF: If Kate's show is not off the air, it soon will be after this camping trip. Who the hell does she think she is? Does she really have fans at this point?
On Letterman tonight 12/13:
Letterman said, “Sarah Palin has a TV show has anybody seen it?”
Paul said, “Yes I’m crazy about it ... I love the show”
Letterman said, “He is not under oath... it is a wonderful show she takes you around Alaska and then each week someone is voted off ... last night she goes camping with Kate Gosselin ... I know you are all wondering when will she go away ... I don’t know ... what a pair ... you have a vapid media star desperate for attention, and then there is Kate Gosselin.”
Who the hell does she think she is? Does she really have fans at this point?
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Apparently a large amount of Kate fans defected after this episode. I was hoping for that. I do not tell people what to do, but this is the first time I've actually thought it might be a great idea if people did watch because it would be worth it to convert a bunch of sheeple or people who had no opinion of her.
It reminds me of other "big" events like say gum gate or Aaden lying in his own vomit where we would see a big round of sheeple come around like little prodigal sons.
I want the defectors to know I'm not judging and you're welcome here and I think you'd be welcome at any other blog, lol.
Per THE INSIDER 12/13:
Lara Spencer: “Were the reality stars feuding behind the scenes of SP’s Alaska? Learning to shoot a shotgun earlier in the day seems to have set Kate off.”
Albert Lee, US Weekly: “Within 5 minutes of them being together you could tell that they had zero chemistry. They didn’t even speak to each other off camera.”
Lara: “Sulking so low under a tent, Kate clearly miserable during a rainy cold camping trip.”
Albert Lee: “One of our Gosselin sources told us that Kate actually does not like Sarah because she feels that Sarah is basically replacing her on the TLC network as their network star”
Lara: “Kate’s kids even caught in the crossfire ... then Kate having had enough abruptly cut short the camping trip ... the tension was evident and Sarah’s dad got the last word”
My personal POV of this episode: Kate was paid very well to play nice on the sand bar with the Palins and yet at no time did Kate display an ounce of common courtesy to her hosts or even suck it up for the benefit of her children who were obviously enjoying their time on this camping trip. The kids were not complaining and did not want to leave. Yes, it was raining but only Kate was affected by it, besides it still was not sub zero temperatures. Kate only thinks of Kate at all times and there is no denying this fact thanks to what was captured on film. Also, I now believe everything that was reported back in July by the National Enquirer in regards to Kate's time in Alaska. Everything.
The thing is, if she wants to be the new "Omarosa" or new "J.R Ewing" etc., that's fine and dandy, BUT it's her MOTHERING that is so abhorent! She is not dealing with adults, adults are not her "co-stars", for pete's sake, her "co-stars" aren't even ACTORS, they are her FLESH AND BLOOD! You know, you can take the "ratings gold" drama in a Survivor, Apprentice, Amazing Race type of "reality" show, but to involve children? Kate would have been/IS an abuser, no matter what, but without the show/finances/lawyers/TLC etc., Jon would have left and LEFT WITH THOSE KIDS!
A great comment from GWoP:
'WonderButton said,
"Of course Kate couldn't stay out camping! She couldn't have her smokes, and couldn't have her wine, without being found out."'
Someone else wondered what Stevie-Boy was doing there since rabid fans and throngs of paps are few and far between in the middle of nowhere in the Alaskan wilderness.
Just what is his purpose? she asked. "Is he the source for pills, booze, what...?"
WHOA! Gotta love those curious and smart 'haterz.' HA!
The speculation that TLC will continue to "use" Kate in a show and make her the "nasty" one will most likely fail as I bet many like me, will get tired of manufactured drama and Kate thinking she is an actress that can pull it off. I have not watched the show in over a year and certainly would not watch any show she is in now but I hope most viewers have better things to watch than Kate being her usual diva. Kate is so delusional to think she is the main reason for the show, not the kids, but she is not. So the ratings go up some after all the hype but she has to keep it going and to do so will be at the expense of the kids. What examples she sets for her kids! Sell your soul to the highest bidder, anything goes as long as you get paid for it, etc. TLC will use her till she drops and than look for the next victim.
I also don't feel Kate's childhood is any excuse for her actions. She has an inflated view of herself and was lucky to find someone to continue to inflate it. She knows exactly what she is doing and so does TLC. The problem is they are ruining 8 children in the process and that is the sad part. Many of us did not have stable family life growing up, but we did not ruin our children lives because we use our own experiences as guidelines as to what not to do. Of course, that means putting them before ourselves most of the time and Kate does not do that.
According to Popeater, Kate thinks being on the most consecutive covers of US weekly qualifies her for a political future?
Really?
<>I really have to stop hanging out on the internet so much. It's really bumming me out anymore. If this wasn't so hysterically funny and ridiculous, it would be scary.
Listen, I feel so very sorry for the Gosselin children....and wish I could fix everything for them and give them wonderful lives. I truly do.
But what concerns me almost more here is that we, as a society, have allowed a person...who clearly appears to be one of the most malignant narcissists on the planet, to become a huge celebrity personality.
And the fact that for so long...so many didn't even see her for who she is....and practically had to have it rubbed in our faces to even get a clue. (I DID actually see Kate for who she was from the very beginning but I have also been sucked-into watching other reality shows so I consider myself just as guilty).
And the problem is...this is exactly the reason why people fall for propaganda....dangerous propaganda. I know that something like Nazi Germany, for instance, is a far cry from this whole Kate Gosselin situation.....but the issue of how we are so easily misled by savvy spin-meisters and image handlers....is scary. To have a person like Kate Gosselin....probably the most malignant narcissist I've ever seen in my entire lifetime....crafted by handlers to fool so many...and for so long....is frightening. I'm sorry...but it is.
This is exactly HOW and WHY propaganda works. If we fall for anything, we stand for nothing.
We REALLY need to reflect on how this situation even happened in the first place and why so many got so fooled. Otherwise, we are just sitting ducks for any master manipulator who could use the media to ruin our lives and our futures if we don't.
A corporation created Kate Gosselin....but WE the people fell for it....hook, line and sinker.
anon 1 said... Now that you reminded me of Khate and Steve disappearing for 2 days, and having seen the show last nite, it puts a whole 'nother slant on just where Kate and Steve may have gone?? If he's not her lover, and really is her handler, what do you suppose they would have done those 2 days? Did Khate get raked over the coals from TLC for that little stunt she pulled? Anyone?
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yes, and she went ballistic for several days too. She was livid that she had been inconvienenced on this trip. They were in a hotel without the children, she was almost unable to function. On the way back from Alaska she was commanded to appear before someone in California, I dont who.
TLC has verbally convinced Kate (starting 6 years ago) that they will have interest in her until the sextuplets become of age. That is why she considers this her career. These were verbal 'promises' made to the parents years ago.
I don't see why anyone would call Kate a good mom after viewing this.
NOT ONCE (I repeat) NOT ONCE did she make an effort to interact with her children, or show an interest in them fishing, collecting artifacts, roasting marshmallows etc. She wasn't even near the fire when her OWN CHILDREN were there. If there was a fire like that and I had 6 6year olds (let alone just one) you bet your A$$ I would be standing right there with them, watching them and 'training' them how to handle it. What IS her problem? The only time she talked with them is when they came to give her a hot dog and then when she practically disowned them for wanting to continue camping.
She relies on everyone to do everything for her. "I'm cold, I'm hungry". Why didn't she pack food? Why didn't she wear warmer clothing, gloves or even sit in a chair by the fire with a blanket? She stood as far away from the heat source as she could be and complained the whole time, caring less about where her children were or what they were doing. Does she rely on everyone else to parent her kids so that she can have the experience? (don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question).
I just can't get over the fact that she acts like a spoiled teenager who has to hang around her younger siblings all day when she'd rather go to the mall with her friends. I swear I was watching my sister as a teenager when I saw this episode (and not just the camping bit, the WHOLE episode).
Kate is Pathetic.
2 things: My mother-in-law, the sweetest woman ever, who never swears, watches Sarah Palin's show. I was talking to her last night about Christmas, my son, ect, & she asked me about if I watched it. I said no. She said "Well, I watched it last night & let me tell you. That Kate Gosselin was on & I used to think she was OK." I said "Ma, don't even get me started on why that remark is all wrong", "She said, let me finish, I used to think she was until I watched Sarah's show. All I can say is that Kate Gosselin is one selfish bitch!". My jaw dropped. Again, my MIL NEVER swears. Ever. She doesn't even say oh my God. She said, "All Kate did was complain, whine, & was the most ungracious person I ever saw. But when she took those babies of hers away from that campsite & threatened them with that comment about them being Palin's, I had to shut it off!" She was so pissed! I told her my thoughts on Kate, & the things I knew, it was like a half hour conversation...needless to say, I have converted a sheeple. (Go me!)
Another thought. I wonder if Palin ever watched an episode of K+8 & said "Hmmm, I know how to rile this one up. I'll be extra nice to her kids, I'll be extra sweet, charming, I won't let her see me get upset, etc"...It's like Sarah Palin KNEW how to piss off Kate. (I watched a clip) She was playing right into Kate's evil hand. It was awesome, really. The way Palin interacted w/ Kate's kids was great. (If only Kate knew how to mother how her kids) I really think that right there was irking the crap out of Kate, like NO ONE mothers my kids better than me...I don't know, just a thought. Sarah did a great job of being one step ahead of Kate with her words & actions. Does that sound right?
Thanks, Denise, for the link. Wow. She sure was chewing her cud the whole time. What a great role model she is, bitching the whole time. And those eyebrows and face....reminds me of Carol Burnett's Nora Desmond... truly, think about it.
I see that Palin's viewship ticked up a bit, but I agree that even more people got to see the real Kate Gosselin.
Read Werny Gal's interview with a reality tv producer to get some insights as to why TLC would put Gosselin in this type of situation.
Did anyone else notice Sarah's face when Kate was talking to Sarah right before she said they were leaving, Sarah was saying that 'this is what we did growing up'? (around the 4:26 mark on Video 5). My daughter said, "mom, is she crying?" She looked really hurt for a moment. (meaning Sarah). There was a lot of editing around this scene and I wonder if Kate did insult Sarah.
I've been informed there are some completely reasonable sheeple comments out there. We agree on some things! Many of them had to admit Kate was being a baby. And notably, many sheeple are finally seeing that TLC is just USING Kate. Exploiting her bad behavior. They don't like this. As much as the children are exploited, in reality so is Kate. Granted she is an adult and can choose, but exploitation is still exploitation.
This is what we said like 12 months ago, but it's nice of them to catch up.
Administrator said...
I want the defectors to know I'm not judging and you're welcome here and I think you'd be welcome at any other blog, lol.
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My God, you are an arrogant little twit. Nobody gives a crap whether they are being judged by the likes of you.
You have got to read this review:
http://www.examiner.com/comedy-in-national/review-sarah-palin-s-alaska-brings-kate-gosselin-hilarity-ensues
My God, you are an arrogant little twit. Nobody gives a crap whether they are being judged by the likes of you.
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I was being facecious. Hence the "LOL." I know it must be upsetting that everyone can now see Kate for who she really is. Don't take it out on us.
Wow, finally watched it on indemand on monday night. All I can say is that being a city girl myself, I would have been utterly miserable in Kate's situation so I can relate. However, her horribleness (?) was just horrible. She was just awful and I kept wondering if TLC thought it was "cute" to have Kate act like that. You know, just Kate being Kate which is what her fans love about her. I especially got a kick out of Kate comparing herself to Palin. She seemed to think they were so alike. That was funny. They have nothing in common except they are both female and mothers.
Palin Worship, Do you think those people that worked for her are really just upset at their own party for thinking she was a great choice and putting all our eggs in one basket so to speak? I know I was excited at first, thought she was a good choice, then the more I heard her talk the more embarrassed I was. I think they are taking their anger out at the party for a bad choice on her. McCain picked her, they can be angry at him. He didn't have to pick her. When you work for an election, especially a presidential one, if they win you could very well end up getting a job in the White House. Sarah helped McCain lose, which meant those campaign workers aren't getting a coveted White House job anytime soon. They are upset, and it's understandable. In any case, you don't hear these people ragging on what a horrible person she is day after day like people do Kate. Liberals say they LIKE her now after seeing her show. As a person!
Just because people might think you are petty, pathetic and a liar in your working life doesn't mean you don't go home and take fantastic care of your kids. I didn't hear any of them say there was some problem with her private home life. They probably didn't know much about her home life because likst every other mother in America except Kate, she kept it private up until now.
When Kate is looking at the moose dog she asks one of the kids
"What is it?"
She is told that it's a Moose Dog by one of the tups? and then the child says "I didn't touch it with my hands".
I'm wondering (aloud) why one of the kids would make sure that was said and Kate knew that? Does Kate REALLY think her kids are that icky?
We can rule out OCD for Kate tho. Anyone who is that worried about dirt and germs would never have walked barefoot in NYC no matter how much their feet hurt.
I have way too much time on my hands today. Sorry if I get a little chatty.
As someone mentioned above, I would not have believed it if I didn't see it with my own eyes (watched on YouTube).
If Kate isn't sincerely ashamed of her childish, boorish behavior, well, she ought to be. While the Palins entertained, involved, educated and fed her 8 children, Kate paced under a tarp like a caged animal, building bile and vitriol with each minute that she "tolerated" the camping experience. I feel so, so badly for her kids. They were having fun!
Not only were the Palins doing all of the heavy lifting (with help from the kids), it was obvious that they were trying even harder to deflect the children's attention away from their mother. In numerous scenes, we see a couple of the G kids and even Piper wander over to Kate in an attempt to engage and comfort her, but alas, to no avail.
Did you see Piper's face when Kate asked rather churlishly, "you like this?"
She replied, in a somewhat small and intimidated voice "I like the rain".
After that, she seemed to realize Kate was not at all the person she thought she'd meet, after watching the show. She wanted nothing to do with her. Adios, Kate. Find your way back to the plane by yourself!
Which leads me to ask...who else thinks that the plane was on standby because either Kate insisted, or production was hedging their bets on Kate melting down and needing to take her away like Calgon? I mean, I'd expect the plane to drop them off and leave, because, I assume, the pilot has better things to do than wait on Kate hand and foot.
anon on this said...
yes, and she went ballistic for several days too. She was livid that she had been inconvienenced on this trip. They were in a hotel without the children, she was almost unable to function. On the way back from Alaska she was commanded to appear before someone in California, I dont who.
Didn't they have a layover in LA on the way back from Alaska? IIRC...I hope she got reemed a new one...
And the tups being of age...Hmmm. And verbally? That is not a really a contract, is it? Kate is so dumb. I hope TLC pulls the rug out from her, & fast.
Tucker's Mom said...(sorry to post again!)
After that, she seemed to realize Kate was not at all the person she thought she'd meet, after watching the show (referring to Piper)
I would think Piper would KNOW what kind of person Kate was after watching the show. Kate is just as bitchy, shrew-ish, & mean on her show as she is in real life I would have to assume. Editing does Kate no favors at all. JMO
sftk said...@ 4:45
excellent post. Just excellent. Thank you, I enjoy your comments very much.
My 2 cents or longer on this trip.
Wake Up all you Kate lovers and Haters. We are dealing with what I call the new Era of Kate.
Kate is on to this Reality game. She knows that the more she acts dumb, insulting, rude and a hypocrite. The more people will talk about her. Write about her and have conversations about her. The more drama and conflict in Kate's life the more fans and non fans alike she gets.
Look at Sister Wifes, Jersey Shore, and Teen mom to make a point. The more drama, fighting, conflicts, heartbreaks and lies. The more viewers a show will get. America loves to hate. Specially the bad and the good.
Now getting on with this episode.
1. Can do Kate is so OVER. Its Can't do Kate from know on. Remember the video tape with Kate in the limo with steve and he was telling her what to do and were to go.
2. Kate in this episode and many others never once got on her kids level. To speak to a child correctly sometime you need to get on there level. Sara and her family did. They taught kates kids many new exciting things. Kate didn't do anything.
3. The bear and shooting. Kate seemed to get along with sara's other child than Sara herself. Odd. Is this because kate never had a exciting teenage life. Oh that's right she hurried up got married and started having kids. I think Kate misses her teen years badly.
4.Kate and the guns. What happened Kate you shot a dirty harry gun in the west. You did it without giving that horrible look.
5. Kate at Sara's Dads house. Kate your in Alaska. They have skins every were. I bet the place you stayed in has animal skins.
6. Camping. Rude to the pilot, Rude to Sara's Kids, Rude to her children, and All above Rude.
7. I guess Kate wouldn't eat that food since its not completely organic. Um what happens when you eat reg food after a whole organic diet. You get very very ill and sick.
8. Surprised that her kids ate smores. That is not organic or healthy.
9. Poor Piper being asked about camping compared to homeless people. Really nice Kate. You were never born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Kate must of never read that. The lord gives and the lord takes away.
10. Best Part of the Show. Sara's Father hands down.
Another review worth reading:
blogs.chron.com/tubular/archives/sarah_palins_alaska/team_blue/
Sarah will be the biggest joke in the next two years when she tries to run for office. No working Mom will want her in office. Palin made a big mistake!!
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In one of the links provided above, the writer went on about SP ruining her chances of running for office, just by associating w/TLC. It really is a garbage channel for the most part. I too tend to think she may have pissed away her chance.
h8k8 said... A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...
At GWOP, someone commented: as soon as she got off the plane, she said, "Wouldn't a lodge be a lot better than this" as Sarah was smiling and greeting the kids. Sarah's dad put his hand up to Kate to shut her up.
Anyone else catch this when it happened?
I saw and hear it and it definitely happened except that I thought it was directed at Sarah's dad and not Sarah - but she did say it!
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Here is an article about this instance where the kids are with Carla's daughter and the black man bodyguard.
http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/2010/07/23/kate-gosselin-mia-in-alaska-kids-go-sightseeing-with-staff/
Not that my kids are always so happy and cheery or perfecftly clean, but Aaden is unusually looking sad, so is Alexis and they both look tired and dirty.
Oh that's actually Leah in the pic sorry....
What is disheartening is that when Kate wanted to fish on that boat and the kids were puking, she told them it was too late to turn around, wish one of the 8 had told her too late we are too far in mom SUCK IT UP.
Can't wait until they can be free of her horrible cold hands.
Administrator said... It would be interesting if after all this time Kate wasn't a narcissist at all but rather has bipolar or asberger's or something along those lines.
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Oh, I think she has 'em all. She is one sick puppy. She's not bipolar IMO, she just genuinely likes being away from her kids and having a camera on her. I still believe she is a narcissist/sociopath and also, I've thought about Asberger's too. She's unable to 'read' people and react accordingly. She really needs to be hospitalized IMO. She's a danger, most especially to those kids.
I am so curious to know what happened at the end of that trip. As Kate was gathering her reluctant kids to leave the campsite, she had to yell to Maddy to come (the twins were talking to Willow and another young adult, and Willow was saying to them "have fun keeping warm tonight"). I wonder if tit was at this point that the "shaking" incident took place. I can picture Maddy digging in her heels and saying "I want to stay here with all these nice people!" Hopefully sooner or later the entire story will come out!
Point 1) So the bush pilot looks at this collection of tiny children, with a very young woman standing somewhat close to him and some type of bleached blond in he rear of the group. They all have brand new gear on. He's got to be wondering how long this group will last outdoors. Anyway he wonders where the responsible adults in charge are, since they are so indicated on his manifast, so he asks. Seems sensible to me.
Point 2) Somebody probably told Katie that she needed a platform for politics and she figured that with all those shoes a pair or two would have to be platform.
Point 3) Katie will do anything to protect her kids - per Katie. Anyone seen the Seinfeld where George is at some type of childrens party and he goes running out the door yelling fire? He was the first one out the door. Katie is banking that she can outrun at least one of her brood in the event of a bear situation.
Grrr. my post upethread was meant to be attached with a comment about Kate dissapearing after they left the campground....I am sure she swiftly abandonned the 8 to be with Stevo and get to a luxury spa.
OK, I'll admit. I was slightly bias towards Sarah Palin. However, I caught a little bit of her show (I was staying at a hotel - I've been TLC-free for over a year. I slipped a little).
I have to say, Sarah impressed me. She's a hands on mom.
Even in this episode w/ Khate Gimme-gimme-gosselin, Sarah knew Piper's teachers name (when asking her to finish her homework).
I think they (the Palins) swallowed their tongues when it came to the escapades of Khate. They are better people that I am, for inviting a family to spend time with you & the way she reacted. Shame on her! though, we all know she ain't got none :)
Some of the sheeple that are slamming the Palins (commenting on Piper's hair/highlights), give me a break! They are all a bunch of "mean girls" and Khate Gimme-Gosselin is the "queen bee" (as Mady nailed it long ago).
My heart breaks for those children. It really does. My eyes filled up at Mass on Sunday just thinking of them & the gift Khate was given (being a mother) that she doesn't appreciate.
For those of us that would give their right arm to become a parent...it's like Khate spits in our faces.
"Oh, I think she has 'em all. She is one sick puppy. She's not bipolar IMO, she just genuinely likes being away from her kids and having a camera on her. I still believe she is a narcissist/sociopath..."
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Could it be that she doesn't have any of those? She could be just your garden-variety mean, nasty, dispicable, miserable, vile person and has been since the get-go.
What I would like to know is the following: Where is everyone? Carla, Aunt Jodi, Beth, her brother, some nannies .... Where do they go? Why don't they speak up .... What does she have over them? How can she silence everyone? Surely someone must know something ....
amazon mommy said...
Kate is on to this Reality game. She knows that the more she acts dumb, insulting, rude and a hypocrite. The more people will talk about her. Write about her and have conversations about her. The more drama and conflict in Kate's life the more fans and non fans alike she gets.
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You may be right, amazon mommy- but considering the comments from many neighbors, and people that crossed paths with Kate, it appears that she's not acting- she really is dumb, insulting, rude and a hypocrite...
I think her twisted, sick little system of getting attention & stardom on her children's backs is back-firing BIG TIME. I think that FINALLY the majority of the public is on to her hijinks. She might as well walk around with a big scarlet letter "A" on her chest.
"A" = Ass
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Thanks for the link to the article, Sienna.
Those babies seem to often have exhausted, lost, overwhelmed, and sad look on their faces.
I don't know what the hell is going on- but just like their mother, their little faces are aging way past their actual years. Compare their faces to Piper's face. Piper's face looks happy, bright, and unburdened. Just like any child her age.
Ugly is as Ugly Does:
I believe the clothing was all Patagonia . My family wears a lot of Patagonia, I recognized the logo immediately.
It would make sense that this company would be big sponsor of Sarah's show since they are known for quality outdoor clothing and gear.
It was so nice to see that big smile on Maddy's face when she was talking about the s'mores. All the kids were clearly having a great time and Kate completely ruined it. I so wish Jon had been asked to take the kids instead, but then he doesn't have a TLC "reality" show does he? It would be nice if Sarah Palin invited Jon and the kids up next summer without cameras.
Totallydisgusted said...
This is from Popeater:
Following Kate Gosselin's televised (and rough) camping trip with Sarah Palin, the mom of eight is now telling friends she too has political ambitions and would some day like to run for office.
"Honestly, Kate is unbelievable," an insider tells me. "Her ego is out of control at this point. Ever since 'Dancing With the Stars,' and the fact that she appeared on more consecutive covers of US Weekly than any celebrity ever, she thinks that she has what it takes to run for office."
This has to be made up right? If true, further proof she is totally delusional.
This woman needs to be taken away in a straitjacket.
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Probably made up.
Can you imagine what a nightmare Kate would be in public office?
The only public office she is capable of holding is "Sheriff of Terrytoons" with Steve as her "Deputy Dawg"...
OMG, I just read that Kate thinks that since Sarah Palin ran for office that she, Kate, can also run for office. Is there NO LIMIT to this woman's narcissism??? Kate is a high-school graduate and doesn't even read the paper!!! Kate does not have a college degree. She graduated from the Reading Hospital and Medical Center School of Nursing. It is a diploma program - they do not bestow BA or BS degrees. Kate is an RN with a diploma. Now, I've heard everything!
MickeyMcKean said...
Also, I now believe everything that was reported back in July by the National Enquirer in regards to Kate's time in Alaska. Everything.
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Wow...National Enquirer turned out to be more reliable and honest than other tabloids, once again. Who woulda thunk it?
Wonder who really spilled the beans on this camping trip? Since that article came out, many of us were fascinated to see just how bad the camping trip turned out. Boy, we weren't disappointed!
There were other dramatic Gosselin moments that were mentioned in the article but not shown in the episode. It's possible that we didn't see the worse of Kate Gosselin.
For full article,
http://preesi.lefora.com/2010/08/06/national-enquirer-august-16th-2010-only-one/
Hippie Chick... I think you are so spot on with your comments about Sarah being so intentionally hospitable to Kate that it sent her into a royal hissy fit. Your poor MIL. Leave it up to Kate Gosselin to make someone who never curses use expletives...lol. Sarah and her whole family were genuinely interested in making sure the kids were having a good time and they did a great job of ignoring that idiot Kate's tantrum in the background. I'm sure it further pushed her over the edge to be ignored like that. But it was so sad to see little Aaden sitting alone beside Sarah roasting that marshmallow when Kate walked up to her with her "Oh hail great Amazon woman, we're leaving" remark. What a BITCH!!
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...
Totallydisgusted said...
This is from Popeater:
Following Kate Gosselin's televised (and rough) camping trip with Sarah Palin, the mom of eight is now telling friends she too has political ambitions and would some day like to run for office.
"Honestly, Kate is unbelievable," an insider tells me. "Her ego is out of control at this point. Ever since 'Dancing With the Stars,' and the fact that she appeared on more consecutive covers of US Weekly than any celebrity ever, she thinks that she has what it takes to run for office."
This has to be made up right? If true, further proof she is totally delusional.
This woman needs to be taken away in a straitjacket.
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Probably made up.
Can you imagine what a nightmare Kate would be in public office?
The only public office she is capable of holding is "Sheriff of Terrytoons" with Steve as her "Deputy Dawg"...
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DEFLECTION. DEFLECTION. DEFLECTION.
Probably just another rumor.
Another PR tactic to change the topic away from the negative press stemming from the camping fiasco.
Just like the mid-week new hairdo (which doesn't look all that different).
Hippie Chic said... I wonder if Palin ever watched an episode of K+8 & said "Hmmm, I know how to rile this one up. I'll be extra nice to her kids, I'll be extra sweet, charming, I won't let her see me get upset, etc"...It's like Sarah Palin KNEW how to piss off Kate. (I watched a clip) She was playing right into Kate's evil hand. It was awesome, really. The way Palin interacted w/ Kate's kids was great. (If only Kate knew how to mother how her kids) I really think that right there was irking the crap out of Kate, like NO ONE mothers my kids better than me...I don't know, just a thought. Sarah did a great job of being one step ahead of Kate with her words & actions. Does that sound right?
I agree with you that Kate may have been irked about Sarah's superior parenting skills, but not because Sarah did anything extra special to egg her on. IMO, Sarah, her father, mother, children and brother did what they normally do - they were polite, patient, gracious, and took time to educate others about their leisure activities in the state they call home. I think Sarah and family would have treated anyone the same as they did Kate's.
Well, I buckled and watched a bit of the show on youtube. I had to laugh when Sarah was needling Todd about why he kept fishing rather than join the rest of them...and the look he gave her made it clear that he was avoiding Kate. And then Sarah made a sound that indicated she totally agreed with him but then said "you're not as stupid (or dumb) as you look". Hehehe.... it implied that he looks stupid...though I'm sure she in no way meant it to be taken in this way....just an unfortunate phrasing issue. But it was a funny faux pas.
I'm perplexed over what 'anon on this' wrote here....that Kate basically got reamed out by TLC. On the one hand, I can see TLC being angry but on the other hand, I could see them being thrilled with Kate's obnoxious performance...in terms of the viewership it would bring and the press it would get for Sarah's show. I'm not altogether sure what TLC's business strategy is at the current time. Kate certainly brought in viewers for Sarah's show but for the long run? Not sure what TLC plans to do with her. Or what sort of behavior they are trying to showcase now. It appears to be that they are showcasing Kate's obnoxious side....but not sure if there's any sort of long-term future in this for TLC. Would love to know what their plans for Kate are and how they are viewing this whole Alaska debacle right now.
I also agree that Kate is most likely not bipolar and also not technically Asperger's either...but she absolutely does have an inability to act appropriate socially or to interact appropriately with others. The person who observed that was right on the money....though I'm not sure what type of psychopathy this would be due to....or if her extreme form of narcissism could explain it. I am sure, however, that she is a malignant, abusive narcissist. There are degrees of narcissism but she is definitely at the extreme end of the spectrum. The worst I've ever seen, actually.
I really hope the kids sue the pants off of TLC one day. They had to have witnessed some disturbing behavior, but only saw dollar signs. They have completely enabled her, and created a monster in the process. Whatever personality disorder she had before, has been amplified by the show. I think they know they have a certifiable nutcase on their hands, but rather than do the right thing, they are standing by, waiting to film her inevitable breakdown. They don't care that 8 little lives are being destroyed, it's sick.
Thank you K8Sucks. I've been trying to figure out who sponsors that child exploiter. Cross Patagonia off my list, along with LLBean, GAP, Stride Rite, Gymboree, Juicy Juice, All State and Johnson & Johnson. I'm so glad it wasn't Eddie Bauer or The North Face. I love their outdoor gear. But I wouldn't hesitate to boycott either one if they BRAND those children like cattle.
Don't Speak for the Children said... Go Away Kate said...
Its not even about how rude she is on the Alaska trip. . .
Those kids ALL know how they live is not right. That she isnt like other mommies. They wonder why she is mean to them. They want to know why she doesnt like them. Why people look at them and she doesnt protect them. Why she doesnt have friends. Is Steve gonna be our daddy? I love MY daddy. Why doesnt she just sit by me or hold my hand nicely? Why is she always mad? Why do i always have to go away? Why is she always tired?
Thats what they think.
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You're able to read the minds of eight children that you don't know? That's quite a feat.
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I have nothing to do with the original comment about what the children think but I agree with it whole heartedly. As an adult child of a mother who is very much like Kate, I can certainly tell you that when I was little I had the same feelings. I was embarrassed by my mother, emotionally hurt by her harsh treatment and lived a life of uncertainty not knowing what her mood would be like from moment to moment. I remember knowing that people KNEW our family was different. I KNEW we were always being watched because she drew attention to herself so often.
So, no, we cannot read those children's minds. But we have empathy. And some of us have very similar experiences.
Also, I spent many years as an adult wondering "why didn't anybody help us.....?" And I will bet my last dollar those children are going to spend many years wondering the same thing.
You may be right, amazon mommy- but considering the comments from many neighbors, and people that crossed paths with Kate, it appears that she's not acting- she really is dumb, insulting, rude and a hypocrite...
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Kate was not acting. She really is that dumb, insulting and rude.
Even in Canada...nice little satire article: http://www.leaderpost.com/news/Sarah+Palin+takes+Kate+Gosselin+camping/3976729/story.html
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You should consider adding SP tweet Life-10% circumstance to your sidebar up there with the Obama doll White House quote. It really was priceless.
I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
HW. . thank you from the bottom of my heart. It was my dad for me.
These are little tiny hearts. They are in kindergarten.
Its not their fault and i hope someone is reminding them that as often as possible.
She should be their soft spot, their biggest supporter.
Mommies should be their childrens biggest fan. . . not their groupy!!
Kate is always talking about how Mady is not an "outdoorsy" girl, and yet, on this trip, Mady was out fishing, helping with the campfire, making S'mores and having a great time just like the other kids. We didn't see her complain once (although, that doesn't mean she didn't, I suppose.) She even had a confessional about how much she enjoyed fishing. I think Kate projects a lot of her own negative attitude onto Mady, but this episode showed that when around people other than her controling mother, Mady is capable of experiencing new things and even having fun outdoors.
just wondering said...
I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
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I wouldn't even admit to wondering about that. It's nobody's business but the Palin family. Vicious rumors are capable of destroying lives.
Just have to throw my 2 cents in here since my 13 yr. old does have Aspergers and I don't see Kate having it at all. She,IMHO, is a narcissist and a sociopath....very different from Aspergers. Contrary to popular belief people on the autism spectrum do have empathy and feelings for others -they just show it different than "typical" people. Kate doesn't show empathy at all- she's just really mean. Oh I also forgot that usually Aspergers people are really intelligent - Kate well....she's pretty dumb.
I re-read the National Enquirer article from August, about the camping trip,and wonder why they did not include the panning-for-gold activity, where one of the tups "found" a gold ring while doing it. It sounded like it was a positive activity, and since there were not too many of them, I wonder why they did not include it in the episode on Sunday?
Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
Just Wondering,
Trying to deflect, deflect, deflect - and as usual showing your true colors. It doesn't work.
I just had a look at some of the comments on the TLC site (Kate's blog). People are not shy about expressing their thoughts on the Alaska show. Don't know whether Kate looks at them but I hope the powers-that-be at TLC tale note.
Final Sunday cable ratings:
Sarah Palin's Alaska (9pm)
- 3.066 million viewers
- 1.8/3 HH
- 0.9/2 A18-49
viaTravisYanan
Not much different from fast national ratings reported yesterday.
I read somewhere that TLC is tired of Kate and can't drop her b/c her contract goes through Feb. 2012. If it's true, why are they suddenly NOW tired of her? They saw how she was when she and Jon were still married. They knew her behavior. Why weren't they tired of her then?
Also, I saw a sheeple comment yesterday- don't remember the site, but the person said, "come on, Kate's a mom of 8 kids. Give her a break."
Just b/c you have 8 kids doesn't give you the right to be rude and say, "Well, someone's gotta be miserable." Michelle Duggar has 19 kids and she would've helped Sarah get food ready, etc. I still can't believe people are defending Kate even now.
un-morphed said...
I re-read the National Enquirer article from August, about the camping trip,and wonder why they did not include the panning-for-gold activity, where one of the tups "found" a gold ring while doing it. It sounded like it was a positive activity, and since there were not too many of them, I wonder why they did not include it in the episode on Sunday?
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It was already shown on the Kate Plus 8 Alaska special.
Additionally, the Palins were not present during the Gosselin's panning-for-gold activity. They might have planned it for the camping trip, but maybe it didn't pan out (no pun intended).
I'm curious what Kate's reaction was upon seeing the non-toilet; maybe that was the last straw that put her over the edge.
LisaNH said... Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
December 14, 2010 3:50 PM
I think I can answer that.
She thinks when she behaves this way, she is being a strong, bold woman and that this is a trait that is unique to her and is to be envied by other women.
She thinks it's cute and endearing and admirable to be so bossy and crabby and not care what people think.
She.is.dead.wrong.
She also thinks she's she's just so adorable and that everybody is attracted to her...even women...because of the way she portrays herself.
This deluded sense of self makes her think this is HER world and everybody else is just in it to make her happy. If you don't make her happy, she will let you know about it. She feels deeply that the world owes her.
For what, I have no idea.
Rachel, thank you for your reasoned reply regarding Aspergers Syndrom. I have a child with a different kind of disorder, and have learned how much the general public does NOT know about mental illnesses.
There is currently a court case on the TV program "In Session," dealing with a boy who has Aspergers. I'm wondering if that's why it was mentioned here. A new word to toss out there. A little information can, indeed, be a dangerous thing.
What Kate said:
"Why do people think pretending to be homeless is fun? I just don't get the concept."
What Kate was thinking:
"Why are these people being nice and having a great time and getting along? Why aren't they spazzing out about this weather? I just don't get the concept."
Check out blindgossip.com - tee hee...could it BE anyone else?
Rachel~
I have a nephew with Asperger's and you're absolutely correct...very intelligent and a huge amount of empathy for others. The one and only feature that would be seen in Kate would be the social inappropriateness and that could be due to a whole lot of personality disorders...not necessarily Asperger's. My nephew is one of the sweetest guys you could meet...NOTHING like Kate.
Kate does not have Asperger's nor, IMO, does she have bipolar disorder...mainly because I do not see the fact that she's miserable with the children but happy when away from them as the classic mood swings of bipolar disorder....which are due to chemical imbalances, not situational factors. They will swing from manic to depressed, regardless of the situation.
But she definitely has some major psych problems, among them being a malignant, abusive narcissist and, IMO, some sort of sociopath.
As for the question of "what does she get from this behavior?"....I don't think that in her case she is intentionally behaving this way to "get" something on any conscious level. It is simply who she is....a narcissist behaving like a narcissist does. One who sees the world as a classic narcissist does and behaves accordingly.
The underlying factor with narcissism is supposed to be insecurity...but I think there are a whole lot of underlying factors, including need for attention and need for conflict. They say that we don't do anything unless there is something in it for us....but most of us (such as co-dependents like me) are not consciously aware of what the pay-off for their behavior is....though according to psych professionals, there has to be one....the whole concept of "I do it because I love the pain".
It's very easy for me to see that Kate is a classic narcissist....but very difficult to see an underlying insecurity issue when it comes to her....due to her arrogance and rudeness. That doesn't mean that's not the underlying factor in her case....just that it's difficult for me to see it. But I don't think that on any sort of conscious level, Kate is intentionally and specifically behaving the way she does to "get something" out of it. But on a subconscious level, she's doing it due to whatever the factors are that underlie her severe form of narcissism and sociopathy.
Over at Kates Take blog are the most scathing comments from former fans. One after another. I only read the first page, but not one favorable comment. Sooo many are finally seeing Kate for what Kate really is.
Regarding Lisa's question about what kind of satisfaction some people get from being rude to others:
My previous boss was a narcissist I'm sure. She loved having power over us and seemed to get a kick out of making us do something that was uncomfortable, or that we didn't want to do.
For example, she used to make us come in the office on weekends when there was no air conditioning and tell us it cost too much to run it on the weekends.
If she knew we didn't want a particular assignment, she would be certain to give it to us.
She loved the power she had to make people do something they didn't want to do.
Red Alert!! Bill O'Reilly is going to comment on Kate Gosselin's Alaska Camping trip. It should be interesting!! Too bad he doesn't have Kate on the show live. He'd have her babbling like more of an idiot she already is.
LisaNH--
We will never understand it because we aren't wired that way, and that's something I'm very grateful for--I don't want to be able to understand Kate because that would require going to a place in myself that I'm not even sure I possess, and if I did I wouldn't like it very much!
What's interesting to me is that people ignored her being rude to her own husband and children and family for years, but all it takes for the tide to turn is one hour of her being rude to someone else's family. Truth will out, they always say...people are jumping off the K-Train left and right over at the fake blog.
I also wanted to mention a scene from the show....the one where the Todd Palin was carrying Trig in their house/living room as Kate and her children sat and watched.
And I feel sure that Kate did not reflect right then on the fact that while she was also at high risk for having children with birth defects, due to having (IVF) multiples, that she'd been so fortunate....more fortunate than many others, including the Palins...to have had every single child born in good health. And that she should be so grateful.....which I feel pretty sure that she's not.
It was quite a symbolic scene, IMO....to have the mother of multiples, all of them completely healthy....looking at a father carrying his Down's syndrome child. I'm sure that the significance of this was lost on her, however, and did not cause her to realize how very lucky she is.
LisaNH said...
Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
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Well, judging from the way Kate interacts with people, I'm going to guess and say that she "gets off" on mistreating people because she has an Inferiority Complex- has extremely low self-esteem, and is very insecure.
For the sake of her children, I hope she seeks help and has a break-through, not a mental breakdown.
LisaNH said...
Red Alert!! Bill O'Reilly is going to comment on Kate Gosselin's Alaska Camping trip. It should be interesting!! Too bad he doesn't have Kate on the show live. He'd have her babbling like more of an idiot she already is.
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Thanks for the heads up, LisaNH!!! :o)
I just had this good feeling a whole wave of Kate fans would defect and it's happening. Yippie! I think the point made about seeing Kate hurt another family is so key. I think while it might be easy for us here who have had Kate's number for five years to imagine all along being in the victim's shoes (maybe because a lot of us have been victims of narcissists ourselves to varying degrees, myself included), but for people who have not been in that position, maybe it took actually SEEING another family be the victim for them to be able to put themselves in that situation and imagine what it must be like to be Kate's victim. It took the visual of Kate hurting another family for them to "get it." If that's what it takes, whatever, I'm just glad they've seen the light.
Speaking of putting yourself in Kate's shoes, for the two fans left, why not put yourself in Piper's shoes or Sarah's shoes? Or the children's shoes who wanted to stay???? Why just Kate's shoes? I will never understand why you would leap to the defense of Kate over those eight kids, I don't get it.
And there was a fabulous comment about how Kate wouldn't let the children quit when they were vomiting on the boat--the children shouldn't have let Kate quit when she was a little wet. What's the difference? THERE IS NONE.
It is a control thing I think, largely. Narcissists do indeed get off on being able to say or do things to other people and watching the dominos fall as they do so. It is almost sexual to them they get such pleasure out of it.
My narcissist would do things like say oh can you meet us here at 2 p.m.? Then not show up. Then when you called to find out where she was, she would act like oh we were supposed to meet at 2? She got OFF on the control of knowing someone would be waiting somewhere and she wasn't showing. It was like she just loved to sit at home and picture the other person standing there looking at their watch. It was really creepy actually. Although let me say I thought she was bad until Kate. She's got NOTHING on her. I found myself thinking lately gosh she was a good mom in so many ways if you put aside those few narcissistic traits.
She was also a hoarder who kept every single bottle of hotel shampoo claiming she would use it someday, even though she is worth $15 million.
I think explaining why a narcissist does what they do is like trying to explain why a person seeks to get together with another person in an intimate way.
People just have a drive to be intimate, and narcissists have a drive to revolve the world around them.
National Enquirer was snooping around the Westbrooke Development a whole 6 months before the rest of the stories broke. I don't know who their contacts are but they were over here first.
un-morphed said...
I re-read the National Enquirer article from August, about the camping trip,and wonder why they did not include the panning-for-gold activity, where one of the tups "found" a gold ring while doing it. It sounded like it was a positive activity, and since there were not too many of them, I wonder why they did not include it in the episode on Sunday?
They panned for gold during one of the Kate Plus 8 episodes. I guess the NE article got a few of the excursions mixed up and thought they were all for the Palin show. I'm not sure they would have had time to do that in the 2 hours the Gosselins were at the campsite with the Palins anyway.
@Donna,
The book, "The Sociopath Next Door", by Martha Stout is an excellent read. And no, not all sociopaths snap and kill people. In fact, most don't. They manipulate others for their own gain without thinking about how their actions harm others; they just don't care, hence lack of a conscience.
dee3 said...
I also wanted to mention a scene from the show....the one where the Todd Palin was carrying Trig in their house/living room as Kate and her children sat and watched.
And I feel sure that Kate did not reflect right then on the fact that while she was also at high risk for having children with birth defects, due to having (IVF) multiples, that she'd been so fortunate....more fortunate than many others, including the Palins...to have had every single child born in good health. And that she should be so grateful.....which I feel pretty sure that she's not.
Yes, Kate should be grateful for having 8 health children, however they were born with the assistance of IUI, not IVF.
Kate administered a few hormone shots to herself which stimulated the production of eggs and then she and Jon fertilized them the old fashioned way.
She wasn't even near the fire when her OWN CHILDREN were there. If there was a fire like that and I had 6 6year olds (let alone just one) you bet your A$$ I would be standing right there with them, watching them and 'training' them how to handle it.
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Maybe somebody else has already responded... but do you remember the backyard epi when they used a fire pit to roast marshmallows? Kate complained that one of the kids would walk too close to the fire, and she demanded that Jon make sure they didn't. She was shreiking about them even walking around. Once again, she made sure somebody other than their mother looked out for the safety of her children.
Ugly is as Ugly does...
Kate does not have Asperger's or any type of autism spectrum disorder. I have 5 children - four have autism spectrum disorders ranging from Asperger's to High Functioning Autism. While I am not a licensed professional psychologist or psychiatrist, I can tell you with a certain degree of confidence that Kate does not have Asperger's syndrome. Kate certainly has issues, but ASD's are not among them.
Please check out http://www.aspergersyndrome.org/ or http://autism.about.com/od/whatisautism/f/whatishfa.htm. Both are good sites to educate yourself on Asperger's and ASD's.
I can't say this enough, however (and I apologize if it seems as if I'm jumping all over you. I don't mean to offend, at the same time my children have enough challenges without people comparing them to Kate Gosselin):
Kate Gosselin DOES NOT have Aspeger's Syndrome or High Functioning Autism.
Another update on Bill O'Reilly, looks Sarah and Kate will be on the Pinheads and Patriots segment where the audience decides. If it's about Kate,I'll be voting Pinhead for suere LOL.
Vote at Billoreilly.com for Kate Pinhead or Patriot. Results tomorrow night.
Midnight Madness said... There are people (Steve especially) that know what goes on behind closed doors. My question is why aren't they talking?
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It's called a CA. If they talk, she'd take them for everything they're worth.
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If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract. Kate has no power to sue someone who reports true incidences of child abuse. And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
Bill O'Reilly Wants A Bear To Eat Kate Gosselin:
http://tv.gawker.com/5713603/bill-oreilly-wants-a-bear-to-eat-kate-gosselin
[snicker]
just wondering said... I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
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I let this comment through to show the sheeple for who they really are--mean, vicious, nasty people who go after kids.
It does not surprise me that the same people (what's left of them) who think it's just fine and dandy that Kate chew up, spit out, and completely destroy eight precious innocent children's childhoods have no problem saying such vicious, vile things about a two-year-old with Down's Syndrome.
Your comment is absolutely disgusting. It's about a child. A child who can barely speak yet and is special needs.
These are the few fans that are left of Kate, vicious people who go after innocent babies who have no say.
Off-topic, but this is so totally Kate:
http://blindgossip.com/?p=24179
Try histrionic personality disorder.
Admin said...She was also a hoarder who kept every single bottle of hotel shampoo claiming she would use it someday, even though she is worth $15 million.
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Long ago I said I thought Kate was a hoarder. The organizing epi where the pros came in to get her basement in order showed the shelves loaded with bottles upon bottles of laundry detergent, toilet paper, etc. Hoarding is another classic characteristic of narcissism. They have a fear that someone else might get the stuff they want. Their needs are far more important than anyone elses afterall. The things that are most important to others are trashed and we've witnessed Kate do that without blinking. I'll bet the mansion is full of crap she doesn't need and will never use.
I think I just figured something out. Kate was talking about a lodge when she got off the plane. I think there was a building with walls and heat available in the park (probably a short boat ride away from the sand bar). Kate opted for that because her comfort was more important than her kids' fun (or education). I thought before that she had made Todd fly them out (since his would probably have been the only plane available). Now I am not so sure. Sarah asked Piper if she wanted to walk them to the "boat". Maybe she actually meant boat and not boat plane. Who knows. Kate was still snotty and truly ridiculous.
If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract...And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
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Unfortunately, that's not true. It's not mandatory to report it if a person, such as Steve, or the crew witnessess it. PA is specific about those who must report it or else face penalty. Morally, I would certainly hope that those report abuse if they see it, regardless if they are physicians, teachers, etc. (those included on the list of those who must report it). Legally, they do not have to report it. If those people want to keep their jobs and not get involved in such a sticky mess, they're going to keep quiet about it. Is it right? Of course not, but some people are like that...
http://www.webofnarcissism.com/forums/index.php?topic=5499.0
Although we're swaying slightly off topic, this is interesting. This is a forum where people are talking about personal experiences with narcissists and hoarding. Sure enough someone is talking about a very wealthy person who hoards, just like wealthy Mrs. X and her hotel shampoos.
Most of them suspect it's related to the control issue. While a narcissist might not be the TV drama type hoarder with every single room in the house full to the ceiling with crap, it's more likely you will open up a rubbermaid and find a million little shampoos dating back to 1991, or in Kate's case, dozens and dozens of various products.
Because control is such an issue for a narcissist, they fear losing control in all kinds of forms, including financially. They want to stockpile things to a bizarre degree in case the money runs out. They don't think if I stockpile all those shampoos they will be old and expired before I ever use them.
In the beginning of the show Kate was tolerable. She's never happy but at least at Sarah's fathers house she seemed interested and cordial. Is it possible something happened in between? Is it possible that the rumored Mady shaking happened somewhere before they went camping? Being exposed for what she really is like that could have been the real reason Kate was so hateful and wanted out of there so badly??? Just a thought.
WHOA, this comment from the forum:
"What is interesting about liviing with an N, is that THEIR stuff is hoarded and kept for YEARS, but anyone else's stuff is fair game for them to abuse, throw away, destroy, whatever. They don't seem to have any sense of boundaries even in this area."
Wow, who does THAT remind you of? Grandpa Gosselins xmas ornaments that belonged to the twins? TRASHED.
I like Canada's law, everyone is a mandatory reporter.
Sadly Mom in Lancaster is right, none of those people are mandatory reporters.
Jodi and Kevin TRIED to speak out and were raked through the coals. I wonder if they spoke out today when most of the public is now onto Kate, if it would go over better.
Hi sillimom,
I was responding to someone saying that Kate could not even have a casual conversation in the car with Sarah Palin; that regular back and forth conversation was difficult for her. I specifically said (third time now) if she has a touch of Asperger's it in no way explains her myriad of other disorders. I also said Asperger's doesn't equal evil, and Kate is evil. I was referring to the way she barks out commands, but two-way conversation just doesn't come naturally to her. I'm sorry I offended you. I understand that it has to be a very touchy subject with you. I have two siblings who are bi-polar and two nephews and a Godson on the Spectrum. Some of her behaviors remind me of them. Some. In no way, ever, did I mean her sheer evilness. Just that one, specific area. I know a lot of troubled people, I actually study personality disorders, and I would never call Asperger's a personality disorder, and the only person I compared Kate Gosselin to was Susan Smith. Yes, I think she is as pure a sociopath as I have ever experienced, even from a distance.
May God bless you and your children. I would never compare an innocent child to Kate Gosselin. I'm very sorry it hit you that way.
I don't think Just Wondering is a sheeple. I've seen this person's posts here and there for quite a while, and the posts were definitely anti-Kate. Notice the avatar, as in "drinking the Gosselin Kool-aid," meant to be sarcastic, I believe... Hasn't Just Wondering often been the lone warrior doing battle for our side on a certain Kate fan site...?
Administrator said...
just wondering said... I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
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I let this comment through to show the sheeple for who they really are--mean, vicious, nasty people who go after kids.
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I was wondering why this comment wasn't deleted, but I do see your point. This represents not only sheeple mentality, but also their vindictiveness. In this case, it's better to let sheeple such as this wallow in their own barnyard and stay with their own kind, rather than to come to the other side and infiltrate the thinking of the good people who have no desire to "wonder" about the kind of garbage that has the potential to do damage to children and their families.
I think there are many who have had their eyes opened to what Jodi and Kevin were saying. It took awhile, but the truth always comes out.
The dark side is wondering what happened to cause poor sweet Kate to act so out of character. I know what happened. It rained. Kate has seen The Wizard of Oz--she knows what happens if she gets wet.
Back to mandatry Caadian reporting of suspected child abuse...
I just flashed back to last summer...a child was crying and wailing to wake the dead and 2 adults were arguing and breaking things. ( This was a 3 story building across the street from me)
I went out with phone in hand trying to figure out what was up...so did 2 other of my close neighbours...we all clled 911, they came and turned out there were 2 apts involved..baby was safe, couple fighting moved out.
I look back and think it was a good thing we did...what if that child had been in the middle of it...atleast my neitghbours would have Called if I didn't hear it
BLIND ITEM This reality star, well not really anymore thank goodness. Anyway, she recently got a $2,000 hair cut and did not tip anyone. She also said thank you to just one person and that was her bodyguard when he opened the door for her. Classless
If Kate ever DOES decide to run for office, she will lose by a landslide.
On another note, was watching some J&K + 8 moments on YouTube, and couldn't believe what I saw.
1. On one episode, they were having a yard sale in front of some building (not sure what it was), and they had a sign that was supposed to say "Proceeds benefit pediatric cancer research" and "proceeds" was misspelled; it said "prodceeds." Kate threw a fit and had the WHOLE stack of fliers thrown away. Simply because a word was misspelled.
2. In another episode, Kate slaps Jon on his cheek, then looks embarrassed and quickly rubs his cheek and tries to justify that it's a "love tap". Jon says something about "I take abuse from her, save me" and Kate goes, "don't play the victim. It's unattractive in a man when he acts victim-ish." Yet now she always plays victim, claiming she can't pay bills, she's a mom of 8 kids, they need the show, she's so lonely, etc. Note again her use of adding "ish" to words- victimish, waterish, slimmish, etc.
3. In the episode where one of the door knobs comes off a door and Kate asks the little kids about it; when she asks the girls, one of them (I think Alexis) tells her it was Hannah, and Kate doesn't ask Hannah about it. Later the girls say the boys did it, and Kate goes to the boys' room. Has Kate favored Hannah since the day she was born, or how old was she before Kate started favoring her? Sorry if this sounds dumb.
Anon on this:
I don't know if you can answer this, but, just in case, I was wondering if you know anything about the Mady shaking incident?
FL Mom said... I am so curious to know what happened at the end of that trip. As Kate was gathering her reluctant kids to leave the campsite, she had to yell to Maddy to come (the twins were talking to Willow and another young adult, and Willow was saying to them "have fun keeping warm tonight"). I wonder if tit was at this point that the "shaking" incident took place. I can picture Maddy digging in her heels and saying "I want to stay here with all these nice people!"
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Admin corrected my same assumption about this some time ago. Actually, the picture of Upset Mady happened during the filming of Kate Plus 8 in Alaska; the camping adventure with the Palins was an entirely different day.
When the picture was taken, they hadn't yet met the Palins.
That's not to say that Mady didn't get upset again when told she was leaving the sandbar.
Mom In Lancaster County said... If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract...And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
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Unfortunately, that's not true. It's not mandatory to report it if a person, such as Steve, or the crew witnessess it. PA is specific about those who must report it or else face penalty.
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Well, that's disappointing to learn about PA's laws. BUT, I would imagine that no confidentiality agreement trumps reporting child abuse, no matter what your agreement is. SO, if there is abuse going on in the G household, each and every employee would not be "punished" for reporting it to the proper authorities.
Long ago I said I thought Kate was a hoarder. The organizing epi where the pros came in to get her basement in order showed the shelves loaded with bottles upon bottles of laundry detergent, toilet paper, etc.
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I thought those were all free products/donations supplied by companies (but not official sponsors since some of them were turned backwards).
BerksPa said...
When Kate is looking at the moose dog she asks one of the kids
"What is it?"
She is told that it's a Moose Dog by one of the tups? and then the child says "I didn't touch it with my hands".
I'm wondering (aloud) why one of the kids would make sure that was said and Kate knew that? Does Kate REALLY think her kids are that icky?
Berks, in the episode when the tups made cupcakes for their birthday, Jon and Kate, especially Kate, talked about how they never ate anything the kids made or touched because their hands were icky and full of germs. I just caught that in H8K8's ugly moments montage.
Great job on that by the way, H8K8!
I cant stop thinking about this: the "crying". under the tent she was literally walking in circles, then the "crying". It reminded me of the utah trip. Her "crying" on the plane. She was liked a caged animal. No lashing out, bullying, bringing the world to a stop so everyone could look to her needs, like usual. She went to the "crying". Her unsteady voice, again the circiling, not her usual tactics. Why?
Another thing I cant get over. She tries to portray herself as this over the top capable mom/person, but she cant seem to do anything by herself. Furniture - Beth. Clothes - Jon. Organizing - Organizers. Mothering - anybody with a pulse.
The hoardering thing. . my husband was watching one episode with me (early years) and asked why they never showed her and jon's bedroom. i told him that i dont think i remember them discussing it. (previous house, not the mcmansion). then i remember seeing an episode where one of the kids was coming out from their room, the door was barely opened, but you could see "piles". I remember thinking: what a mess in there. Hmmm.
Asperger Disease? No, Kate doesn't suffer from Aspergers.
Kate has isolated herself from the outside world to the point that she doesn't know how to get along with other people, hence the reason for Steve.
Kate's isolation and her narcissistic tendencies may cause her to feel uncomfortable around people who are healthy, functioning individuals. And that's what we saw in the car with Sarah Palin. Kate can't bully Sarah and it made Kate feel awkward. Remember Kate is used to bullying her kids and not interacting with adults.
Did anyone else notice the times when Kate was condescending to the Palins. Kate treated the Palins like Hillbilly trash that were inferior to her. That was another defense mechanism. Kate can't handle a loving, positive family so she has to trash them too.
Funny how her attitude has cost her fans and could cost her the TLC contract. We will just have to wait and see.
Go Away Kate said...
I cant stop thinking about this: the "crying". under the tent she was literally walking in circles, then the "crying". It reminded me of the utah trip. Her "crying" on the plane. She was liked a caged animal. No lashing out, bullying, bringing the world to a stop so everyone could look to her needs, like usual. She went to the "crying". Her unsteady voice, again the circiling, not her usual tactics. Why?
I think it's because she didn't really have much of an audience when camping. Everyone pretty much left her to her own misery. The cameras were mostly busy with the kids and the only people paying much attention to Kate at the time was production people.
I do think Kate's naturally prone to throwing tantrums to get her way and for attention, but I believe that she puts on much more of a show when the cameras are rolling. Kate likes attention - especially from males (watch her when she's talking to a male, it's much different than with a woman) and she's also very conscious of the camera's presence. No, I don't believe she's 'acting' on the show. But, I do believe she's 'acting out' more when she knows they're focused on her.
Seeing as ALLLLL the early "rumours" of Kate's behaviour, rudeness etc. came to be true, I REALLY believe that the shaking incident is also true. Although there's a pic of Mady crying, that was not when they were with the Palins. We've seen Mady crying before (mostly because she doesn't tow the line for her mother's charades)so nothing new there. Too many reports from that Alaska escapade have turned out to be FACTUAL.
Just Googled Chelatna Lake Lodge and found the following: It has luxurious chalets, fine dining and a SPA. It costs $695 per person per day so why would Kate condescend to eat that crap Sarah was offering, why would she bother herself to pitch in and do any of the myriad chores necessary in making a successful camping experience. If she just pouted and whined and cried someone would finally recognize her superiorness and get her off to the $695 per person per day catering that is only her due. Kate was shocked that Sarah actually CHOSE to stay out in a tent (a free tent) rather than to be pampered and catered to. What real rich person would do that?? Kate has no idea of Value. She only sees Price. She stole a once-in-a-lifetime experience from her kids so she could be pampered yet again. (And I know she didn't bother tipping, either. Why would she--the lodge had the privilege of having HER to wait on. They should tip her, not the other way around.)
No, I don't believe she's 'acting' on the show. But, I do believe she's 'acting out' more when she knows they're focused on her.
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I think the only time Kate could be considered "acting" is when or IF she was appearing to be cordial and nice. THAT would be acting on her part.
"just wondering said... I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
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I let this comment through to show the sheeple for who they really are--mean, vicious, nasty people who go after kids."
You really need to correct this statement. Just Wondering is one of the biggest anti-Kate people around. She has left comments on some of the other blogs she frequents that are anti-Kate blogs about making this comment. She has left a few other comments here lately asking you all to stop watching the show.
I am not sure why but she has something against this site.
Heide said... Anon on this:
I don't know if you can answer this, but, just in case, I was wondering if you know anything about the Mady shaking incident?
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The children are slapped, pinched, pulled, shaken, hit, all the time. Kate calls it spanking and discipline. She honestly feels it is her right to do, and is necessary to enforce her authority. She is very intent at all times on 'enforcing her authority' with the children and her hired help. This is not something she is likely to be talked out of or corrected with education. To her it is like breathing, it is part of her DNA or something. So is the bullying, which is getting worse and now you all have seen it with your own eyes.
I dont know if the Palins witnessed anything.
yes, it was reported at least once that I know of. She uses the 'I have 8 and you dont know what that's like' excuse and for some reason, that works! I don't get it.
I also want to repeat something Ihave posted before - What bothers me a great deal is the children are being medicated. I believe Kate is using Benedryl, for the sedation side effect and has nearly everyone convinced it is their 'medicine'. I have no way of knowing if this medicine is needed, and I cannot bring myself to advocate for ignoring a mother's medication regime for her children - however I encourage my aquaintance to be very careful about this. It disturbs me to my core.
I know many of you dont believe me and that is OK. Everyone should be very skeptical of anything to do with this woman. But believe THIS: she needs to be in a hospital.
The hoardering thing. . my husband was watching one episode with me (early years) and asked why they never showed her and jon's bedroom. i told him that i dont think i remember them discussing it. (previous house, not the mcmansion). then i remember seeing an episode where one of the kids was coming out from their room, the door was barely opened, but you could see "piles". I remember thinking: what a mess in there. Hmmm.
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They did show the bedroom at the old house. It was during the computer/answering questions episode. The closet was a disaster and the room was messy.
Thanks Ugly is as Ugly does. I appreciate the clarification. It sounds like you have a lot on your plate with your sibs, nephew and godson.
I broke a cardinal rule and watched the episode on demand so I could come to my own conclusions. Kate certainly seemed tired but I didn't find her particularly snotty or impolite during the first half of the show (I haven't seen the camping bit yet as my cable company started having issues. I should probably take it as a sign from God to not watch anymore). The conversation in the car struck me as typical given the situation - superficial and polite. Sarah and Willow were on their phones during the car ride, so I don't think either one was particularly going out of their way to become Kate's best friend.
It reminded me of when you go to a family reunion and you are suddenly thrust in with extended relatives you've never really met before. Your conversation is polite and superficial and a little stilted and uncomfortable - there's this unspoken expectation that you'll automatically get along just because you're related. I think in this case, there was this idea that you'll get along because you're both in the entertainment industry.
Kate had good eye contact, she participated in the exchange, she stayed on the topic, she initiated questions - again, nothing there that would strike me as Aspergian. She seemed reserved, but frankly I think she was tired from filming and from having to interact with her kids much more than she probably normally does. And yes, I think she sees Sarah Palin as a rival and that played into it as well. Kate is a solo act - she's not a team player.
I think Kate has issues, as I said before, but they're not because she lacks theory of mind. It's because she was raised by a father who is very similar to her in personality and temperment and hence learned to behave by his example. Also, Kate is very self centered by nature and probably does have issues with narcissistic personality disorder. Her social difficulties come because of that, not because of any neurological impairments as are involved with ASD's.
What is truly sad is she is passing those behaviors on to her own children. Kate made an interesting comment - someone has to be the miserable one. While I agree that you can always control your attitude, I believe that there are people like Kate throughout out society. I think it's why we all react the way we do to her - we all know a Kate Gosselin.
You can be mad at her or you can pity her. I choose to pity her, because truly she lives a life of poverty - she may have a lot of THINGS but she is poor in the things that truly make life rich. Money is just money - it can provide security to a degree, but it's not what matters.
Anon1 - Interesting information. Thanks for posting. As for the benadryl, is she giving it to them throughout the day or is she only giving it to them at night?
As I mentioned, I have children with high functioning autism. Sleep issues can be part of the territory and certainly is in our case. Not just falling asleep, but more falling asleep at 8:30/9:00 p.m. and then waking up at 1 or 2 in the morning and then not going back to sleep until 5:00 only to have to wake up at 7:00 to go to school.
Our pediatrician has prescribed Bendaryl to help with the sleep issues. We try to use it only when our kids are on a sleep disruption cycle. We usually try melatonin before we use the benadryl, but the benadryl does the trick in keeping them asleep through the night. We give them the smallest dose possible.
It's not the uncommon for doctors to suggest it to parents. However you shouldn't use it for more than a week (7 days) and you should use it while really enforcing the bedtime routine. While it makes you sleepy, it doesn't give you a good quality sleep and it isn't uncommon for kids to wake up even more tired or out of it if it's being given nightly.
If the kids are not getting quality sleep, that could explain some of the disruptive behavior, combined with a lack of consistency in their lives. Child Services may come out but it's unlikely they will ever take the kids away from Kate. Things would have to be pretty severe, and Kate has enough help to make sure that doesn't happen.
The kids best bet is for Jon to continue to advocate for the kids, although he wants to avoid running into court for every little thing. The court can get annoyed with that tactic. Hopefully his support has been reviewed and adjusted to reflect his current circumstances. He should look into getting a larger home if at possible, preferably a 4 bedroom. I don't know if he knows anyone that would be willing to cut him a deal with rent in exchange for doing work on the rental or something. Once he's held his current job for a year and has a larger home, he should petition for a review of his custody schedule and ask the court for an increase in visitation. He needs to prove that he is stable and can provide for his kids.
As for Kate, in the next few years the tv gigs will dry up and she'll be at a loss when no one cares about her anymore, when the stores in town stop closing down their shops for her and giving her special treatment, when she can't get an appointment with Ted Gibson, when she can't afford the nannies. As for Steve, I don't what to make of that.
There is something very wrong with Benadryl being prescribed and used to calm children or as a sleep aid. Why would a pediatrician suggest using an allergy medication for something other than what it is intended for? Kate's children shouldn't be given allergy medication unless they have allergies, not to get them to fall asleep. What next, Ambien and/or a xanax? Or are those Kate's drugs of choice along with a box of wine?
I may have posted this before but not sure.
I think the incident occurred right before they boarded the plane. It would make sense that they would send an assistant to accompany them to the site and it is possible that she got by because the assistant is the only one that saw it. It wouldn't pay to do that in front of Granpa Palin something tells me.
There was a delay in getting to the plane. The kids were all lined up and the pilot said where are the adults. Cut to editing - then Khate materializes and says yes here we are and she was angry, before she even saw the camp. That would explain why she was so agitated and hostile and downright rude upon arrival. It would also explain her not being as rough on the kids and controlling, until the end. You wouldn't even know she had kids there until she got ready to leave.
I don't think Khate has anything wrong with her. I think she is just a very mean person.
"It's because she was raised by a father who is very similar to her in personality and temperment and hence learned to behave by his example."
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Unless you know him personally, this is all speculation. Don't believe everything you read.
Anon on this said:
I know many of you dont believe me and that is OK.
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Believe what? That Kate is bullying, needs to be in a hospital, the kids are slapped, pinched, etc., and that she is controlling and domineering? I think most of us have already figured this out.
You said that you BELIEVE she is using Benedryl. This is your opinion, right? Let's get some proof here, and maybe we would believe you. Speculation is one thing; confirmation is another.
url, often medications are prescribed for other purposes than what they are labelled as on the box. Example is that certain anti-convulsants are very effective for mood stabilization in those with bipolar disorder. If a pediatrician told the mother who posted above to use Benadryl to help her autistic child sleep, then there is no need to doubt her. Benadryl definitely has a strong sedative effect being that it is an antagonist at the H1 receptors. Just because it is marketed as an allergy medication doesn't mean that is the only effect/purpose of the medication. If you read up on some pharmacology you could see the effects of h1 receptor antagonism :)
However, if Kate is using Benadryl on her children I highly doubt it was recommended by a doctor or is being used only during the night.
Her behaviour was absolutely atrocious on this trip as everyone has already stated and I find it absurd that she insists all over the talk shows that this is her job but yet behaves like this?? Who behaves like this at their job? No one, or if they do, they don't have a job for long..
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just wondering said... I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
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I let this comment through to show the sheeple for who they really are--mean, vicious, nasty people who go after kids.
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I was wondering why this comment wasn't deleted, but I do see your point. This represents not only sheeple mentality, but also their vindictiveness. In this case, it's better to let sheeple such as this wallow in their own barnyard and stay with their own kind, rather than to come to the other side and infiltrate the thinking of the good people who have no desire to "wonder" about the kind of garbage that has the potential to do damage to children and their families.
I think there are many who have had their eyes opened to what Jodi and Kevin were saying. It took awhile, but the truth always comes out.
Midnight Madness said... There are people (Steve especially) that know what goes on behind closed doors. My question is why aren't they talking?
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It's called a CA. If they talk, she'd take them for everything they're worth.
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If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract. Kate has no power to sue someone who reports true incidences of child abuse. And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
If there is abuse going on behind the scenes, reporting it trumps any confidentiality agreement or contract...And anyone who witnesses it (CA or not) without reporting it is committing a crime (not the other way around).
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Unfortunately, that's not true. It's not mandatory to report it if a person, such as Steve, or the crew witnessess it. PA is specific about those who must report it or else face penalty. Morally, I would certainly hope that those report abuse if they see it, regardless if they are physicians, teachers, etc. (those included on the list of those who must report it). Legally, they do not have to report it. If those people want to keep their jobs and not get involved in such a sticky mess, they're going to keep quiet about it. Is it right? Of course not, but some people are like that...
Try histrionic personality disorder.
LisaNH said...
Red Alert!! Bill O'Reilly is going to comment on Kate Gosselin's Alaska Camping trip. It should be interesting!! Too bad he doesn't have Kate on the show live. He'd have her babbling like more of an idiot she already is.
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Thanks for the heads up, LisaNH!!! :o)
LisaNH said...
Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
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Well, judging from the way Kate interacts with people, I'm going to guess and say that she "gets off" on mistreating people because she has an Inferiority Complex- has extremely low self-esteem, and is very insecure.
For the sake of her children, I hope she seeks help and has a break-through, not a mental breakdown.
Regarding Lisa's question about what kind of satisfaction some people get from being rude to others:
My previous boss was a narcissist I'm sure. She loved having power over us and seemed to get a kick out of making us do something that was uncomfortable, or that we didn't want to do.
For example, she used to make us come in the office on weekends when there was no air conditioning and tell us it cost too much to run it on the weekends.
If she knew we didn't want a particular assignment, she would be certain to give it to us.
She loved the power she had to make people do something they didn't want to do.
Rachel, thank you for your reasoned reply regarding Aspergers Syndrom. I have a child with a different kind of disorder, and have learned how much the general public does NOT know about mental illnesses.
There is currently a court case on the TV program "In Session," dealing with a boy who has Aspergers. I'm wondering if that's why it was mentioned here. A new word to toss out there. A little information can, indeed, be a dangerous thing.
Final Sunday cable ratings:
Sarah Palin's Alaska (9pm)
- 3.066 million viewers
- 1.8/3 HH
- 0.9/2 A18-49
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Not much different from fast national ratings reported yesterday.
Can I ask a question? (Although I'm not sure if anyone here can answer it because everyone who posts here are very nice, considerate and kind). How does anyone get any satisfaction out of treating people like dirt?
Kate has shown over and over again that she gets some sort of sick satisfaction out of being rude and nasty to people. From the airplane pilot in Alaska to the cake people who made cupcakes for the tups birthday, she has treated people horribly. How can anyone get any satisfaction out of doing that? I just don't understand it. Personally, I feel badly if I think I have been rude to a person for any reason; even when I have PMS (LOL). I just cannot get my brain around treating people as badly as Kate does. It would keep me up at night.
just wondering said...
I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
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I wouldn't even admit to wondering about that. It's nobody's business but the Palin family. Vicious rumors are capable of destroying lives.
Kate is always talking about how Mady is not an "outdoorsy" girl, and yet, on this trip, Mady was out fishing, helping with the campfire, making S'mores and having a great time just like the other kids. We didn't see her complain once (although, that doesn't mean she didn't, I suppose.) She even had a confessional about how much she enjoyed fishing. I think Kate projects a lot of her own negative attitude onto Mady, but this episode showed that when around people other than her controling mother, Mady is capable of experiencing new things and even having fun outdoors.
I wonder if we will ever find out if Trig is Sarah's son or Bristol's?
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