Jon loses his court battle to keep the kids in the states over the holidays and the kids head Down Under to exchange notes with Bindi and Robert Erwin, Australia's version of the Plus 8. Crikey.
Troy Chula Vista said... The people that support Kate are just as blind as the people who support Britney Spears. Some press reports state that Britney is on "top of her game" again.
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? She doesnt sing live! Thats why ABC taped her GMA appearance on Sunday, in case she flopped or didnt show up they could get the egg off of their face. Now I know Chris Brown lip synched on DWTS, but at lease he can dance!
Hey I am a Britney Spears fan and I take offense to that. I don’t see why you need to bash Britney she is not hurting anyone. You don’t have to watch her on TV if you don’t want to. Kate on the other hand I understand the bashing completely and I think she deserves all the crap she gets for what’s she is doing to her children.
Hey I am a Britney Spears fan and I take offense to that. I don’t see why you need to bash Britney she is not hurting anyone.
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My bad. Sorry. I just don't get why you would pay good money to see someone who doesnt sing live and can barely move now in her dance steps. It seems like she is providing an act that has lost it's appeal or at least the polished act it once was.
Troy Chula Vista said... OK, Some of my tweets did get through..so they are not scrubbing them all. A sheeple can't for her cook book to come out... ha ha ha ha ha
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If you go to Twazzup ( a kind of Twitter search engine ) you can see the tweets. Use kateplusmy8 as the search term:
http://www.twazzup.com/?q=kateplusmy8&l=all
I doubt she's tweeting herself. Jamie or someone from TLC will be doing it - TLC won't let her loose on Twitter.
Twitter: paige_Kate8lvr Paige Campbell Haha kate I want to know how things worked out with u and mr. Speedo LOL yeaaaaa #akward lol LOVE you!! Plz follow me:)
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I came across this sheeple on another site. Talk about being obsessed! Oy. These are this person's likes:
"Kate Gosselin, Kate Gosselin, kate gosselin, Cara Gosselin, Katie Gosselin, Leah Hope Gosselin, Alexis Faith Gosselin, I love Cara,Mady,Leah,Hannah,Alexis,Joel,Aaden,And Collin gosselin, I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life...abbie is a big fan of kate gosselin and her kids, Charlie Sheen, Kate Gosselin Fan Page, Kate Gosselin Fan Page...Gosselin Diary, TLC, Madelyn Gosselin..."
janon19 Janon Kohnhorst can't wait. Have been missing the show. Any date for cookbook release yet?
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That's not the only thing this person has been missing. News flash - the cookbook never is going to see the light of day, and the publisher has confirmed it!
In the article she confirms she's been out on a few little dates but she already has 8 kids and doesn't need 9. Wow, why aren't the guys lining up to go out with her with that kind of attitude?
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Do you think that any guy who wants to date her must fill out an application and have it approved by TLC, release financial records, and agree to a credit check? TLC owns her, and I would think that any possible suitor would have to meet their qualifications as well.
Kate tweeted her first tweet about the kids, she says she's driving home from NY to go see them. So I get it, Jon is not allowed to tweet about the kids, where the kids are, what he is doing, and so on--but Kate is??? DOUBLE STANDARD MUCH???
Just as a side note, I don't believe for one second Kate is driving. She says she can't tweet because she's on the road. Um, Kate, you can tweet if your chauffeur has the wheel!
Just looked at Kates Twitters. I am not Twitter savvy and am wondering what the difference is when she tweets Via Mobile Web vs Via Twitterific. What would be the difference?
TLC owns her, and I would think that any possible suitor would have to meet their qualifications as well. ==== Moose, TLC DateKate Application:
"Please answer the following questions with a yes or no:
1. Are you desperate or just plain stupid? ___ 2. Do you realize what you're getting into? ___ 3. Have you been living under a rock for the last five years?___ 4. Do you need your head examined or are you a certified idiot?___ 5.You're sure you want to do this?___
Catching up on Apprentice while I try to muster up the strength to watch Kate Plus 8. As task manager Marlee Matlin raised the most money in the history of Apprentice on one task, and in fact, the most money for a whole SEASON. She raised $986,000--almost a million bucks, at an art show! She was getting $99,000 a piece for paintings for charity. That woman is incredible. Trump gave her $14,000 to make it an even million. I got a kick out of the show blurring out her sign language when she was swearing in sign, lol!
As has been said before, the genius of Apprentice is finding out a celeb's true colors. And I'm liking Marlee's. I can't wait until next week when they show her giving the check to her charity.
1. Are you desperate or just plain stupid? ___ 2. Do you realize what you're getting into? ___ 3. Have you been living under a rock for the last five years?___ 4. Do you need your head examined or are you a certified idiot?___ 5.You're sure you want to do this?___
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LOL, Auntie! Don't forget #6. Do you own a Speedo? Kate tried so hard not to be obvious that she was checking out the guy's smashed banana, but we all knew what she was doing!
"Just as a side note, I don't believe for one second Kate is driving."
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I remember during one of the early shows, she said that she doesn't like to drive on the highway. I thought -- where does she drive? In parking lots only? If she doesn't like to drive on the highway, then she sure as shootin' isn't driving home from New York over the Tappan Zee or down the NJ Turnpike (depending where she was in New York!)!
Kate did not account for the fact that I have a photographic memory. Here she is just this past August with Steve-o, wouldn't you know it, taking a limo to NYC and stopping for coffee!
Catching up on Apprentice while I try to muster up the strength to watch Kate Plus 8.
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So, how did it go, Admin? Did you throw anything at the television? How can you watch that? - Kate, not the Apprentice! Does a glass (or two or three) of Chardonnay ease the pain?
I watched DWTS. Maks fell, and he fell hard. He winced in pain, and made a mad dash after the scoring to get some ice. Poor guy. He was really hurting.
Admin, thanks for watching the Kreider travelogue and posting about it. Sounds boring. As her Today interviews and other same old same old interviews. Discovery could save a lot of money by just rerunning the prior interviews. I watched the NCAA basketball championship game. even tho' my beloved VCU Rams got defeated by Butler on Sat, UConn beat Butler, naanaabooboo! It would have been a better game if VCU has met UConn. But Coach Shaka Smart just signed an 8 year extention and the Rams will be back!
Kate didn't show on JOY? I tivoed it but haven't watched yet. Now that is BIZARRE given she tweeted just this morning she was taping it.
Maybe they realized how idiotic it was to have Kate on to compete with her OWN SHOW in the same time slot. LOL. Or as someone else suggested, Kate ran crying when Joy actually asked her a few twitter questions proposed.
I find it incredibly consistent that Kate isn't following one darn person on Twitter except twitterific, which is not a person but just an app to post tweets. Why would a narcissist give two hoots what someone else has to say???
Half the point of twitter is following other people, lol. But it's just a one-way street when you're dealing with a narcissist.
I just checked out the FB page for Joy's show. I think there was 3 comments out of 104 that were kind to kate, the rest were less than happy she was going to be on.
There was no mention why, but there was 1 simple question I thought was pretty good: "Ask Kate why in her mind, she and Jon broke up"
That should be a spin free answer she gives. I wonder if Joy will say anything on The View?
I would be shocked if any "date" didn't sign a confidentiality agreement.
Kate? Maybe your sad love life is because of you and your stupid celebrity lifestyle. It's not exactly romantic to be all like hey baby you're looking fine, by the way just sign here!
OMG! Sherri is so clueless and just spews stuff she knows nothing about. She is Kates biggest supporter on how Kate conceived (she keeps saying Kate split the eggs) and Kate has to work to support her kids, and why not? I dont mean to open a whole discussion about IVF, IMF or whatever it's called (no disrespect meant to people who administer these or have had them done). It'll be a LOVE FEST! gag!
Administrator said... I find it incredibly consistent that Kate isn't following one darn person on Twitter except twitterific, which is not a person but just an app to post tweets. Why would a narcissist give two hoots what someone else has to say???
Half the point of twitter is following other people, lol. But it's just a one-way street when you're dealing with a narcissist.
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Since the new Twitter account is most likely going to be managed by TLC for PR purposes only there's no need to follow anyone or have a relationship with someone since they're not interested in communicating anything but drivel to keep her in the media. Kate isn't being followed by the paps, is rarely mentioned on ROL or INF, so they're using Twitter now to try to keep her name alive.
Why don't they just rename the show Kate loves Kate. Watch Kate drag her 8 kids on all-expense paid trips that SHE has wanted to go on with her all-expense paid boyfriend, er bodyguard. Poor sucker is probably paid to" relieve her pent up tension" too. Yuck.
I came across this sheeple on another site. Talk about being obsessed! Oy. These are this person's likes:
"Kate Gosselin, Kate Gosselin, kate gosselin, Cara Gosselin, Katie Gosselin, Leah Hope Gosselin, Alexis Faith Gosselin, I love Cara,Mady,Leah,Hannah,Alexis,Joel,Aaden,And Collin gosselin, I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life...abbie is a big fan of kate gosselin and her kids, Charlie Sheen, Kate Gosselin Fan Page, Kate Gosselin Fan Page...Gosselin Diary, TLC, Madelyn Gosselin..."
You know, this would scare me - really scare me.
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That's a typical Kate fan for you. She's 16 years old and from Canada. I agree, it is scary.
There was no mention why, but there was 1 simple question I thought was pretty good: "Ask Kate why in her mind, she and Jon broke up
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That's kind of a no-brainer, isn't it? She already answered that in the Morales interview. It was because they had different "goals." She didn't say what the goals were, but I guess we now know that she wanted to keep exploiting the kids and he didn't. Of course, with as many stories as she weaves, she's never going to remember what she said to Morales.
Joy Behar's website says: •4/5: Kate Gosselin, Sherri Shepherd Now THAT is an interesting pairing!
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Well, that's definitely a programming change. Last Friday and all weekend, Joy's site had Khate's pic (an old one with the short hair) at the top of the right sidebar. It said today’s show (Monday 4/4) was going to have Khate and Star Jones on. Then, when I checked it this morning, they changed that pic to one of Star Jones but it still listed Khate on Monday's show.
Khate probably taped it today and they'll run it tomorrow. Maybe the Star interview went too long? I posted here the other day that it was kind of dumb to have Khate on Joy’s show at 10pm on Monday to promote her new episodes because that’s the same time her show was to be on TLC. It would make more sense to promote it at least a day sooner than the night it’s on.
So, now it’s even funnier, lol. She’ll be on Joy’s show TOMORROW to promote a show from the night before. What geniuses at TLC. (Yeah, I realize her dumb show is on again next week, but I’m sure they would have liked more publicity in the few days or week before the new season began). Plus, I’m sure it wasn’t TLC’s call, but a call by Joy’s producers to change the schedule around. It just shows how TLC and Khate don’t have the pull that they might have had before. I bet Khate was pissed when they bumped her to tomorrow. Oh, better yet, I hope they taped it this afternoon but didn’t tell her or TLC that it was being bumped from tonight’s show until later on. Ha ha ha....they probably had such a good interview with Star that they needed more time and felt like they could just bump Khate. LMAO.
I don't think Joy B. has much use for Sherri S. However, in order to keep peace within the View family, she has probably been asked to welcome Sherri warmly and not argue with her. She treated Star Jones quite cordially. There was hardly anything to pass on to the gossipmongers.
I think Kate G. is going to get an easy ride on Joy's show and then Joy will bring it up on The View and give a more honest opinion.
Troy Chula Vista said... Thanks! Now I figured it out. Question, so the only tweets anyone will see are "non blocked" sheeple tweets and the occasional "hater" that isnt blocked? So she has 1700 + followers, but there are only a handful of comments on each tweet. Am I seeing that correct or is there a "next/more" button I am missing?
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Troy, On Kate's page you see whatever hasn't been deleted. If you want to see every tweet that mentions Kate Gosselin or Kateplusmy8 just enter those words in the search box at the top of the twitter page. (when you do a search you'll see everything that mentions those words -- including from people who have been blocked, but the funny thing is that although someone is sending you nasty comments, YOU never see them if you've blocked them; so all their hard work to insult or upset you is worthless - however, people that are following the sender of the comment can see what's been sent) Search for any name, place etc and everything tweeted that matches will come up. The only way to really understand Twitter is to spend time clicking on everything and reading and trying to follow conversations. Believe it or not, it's actually better than it used to be.
Well, according to Joy Behar's tweets, it looks like as of around 4:30 pm EST today, Khate was still scheduled to be on tonight's show (Monday 4/4). So, Khate's interview did get bumped at the last minute, (she probably pre-taped it today, though):
@JoyVBehar # Please welcome @kateplusmy8 to twitter. And just in time for her appearance on my @hlntv show 2nite. #KateGosselin about 9 hours ago via Seesmic Web
# Got a question or two (or eight) for Kate Gosselin? She’s on my @hlntv show 2nite. Thanks! about 11 hours ago via Seesmic Web
cherier1 said... I read that Kate got bumped for Star Jones.
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es, Star tweeted something about she and Joy had "three" to talk about (whatever that means - maybe 3 segments on the show? IDK). I guess they had to move Kate and Sherri to tomorrow IF nothing else more important comes up. HA
IF Kate got bumped for Star Jones, it may have been at Star's request. She's quite a diva herself, and she would no more want to share the interview time with Kate than Kate would want to share it with her. Either one of them can throw a really messy fit if provoked by not being top diva.
I just don't have the strength to tackle this episode tonight, I'll recap it later.
I saw just a moment of the rerun and it was a part where they went camping. Listening to Kate explain why this camping was successful as compared to Alaska....the right conditions, the ability to look at the stars....was a hoot. No, Kate, camping 2.0 was successful because it was all about you as it should be, and not about somebody more famous and important like Sarah Palin.
So laughable that Kate gets bumped to after her show airs. Will she say tune into Kate Plus 8 tonight, and have some cheap actor dub over her voice "yesterday"?
Access Hollywood Transcript April 4, 2011. -- Kate Gosselin may have settled into her life as a single mom, but the “Kate Plus 8” star said she hasn’t quite figured out how to date again.
“It’s just strange,” Kate told Access Hollywood in New York on Monday morning. “After this many years, to just be back out there in the world? If somebody arises, that’d be great. If not, it is what it is.”
The reality TV matriarch, whose show returns to TLC for a new season on Monday night, said that part of the problem with dating is her lack of time, while the other is – with eight children at home to plan for — having a clear enough head to tune into the other person.
“It’s hard to find the time, it’s hard to go on a date, and hear somebody, blah, blah, blah-ing and you’re thinking, ‘I don’t care, I don’t care! What am I making for dinner tomorrow night?’’” Kate said.
While she has a sparse dating schedule, Kate is still in contact with her ex-husband, of course – Jon Gosselin — and she told Access the two are communicating better following their bitter 2009 divorce.
“He’s working now so he has something to focus on that’s more constructive,” Kate said. “He sees the kids.
“I have remained the same throughout,” Kate continued of her behavior toward Jon. “I want it to be peaceful, but I can only control my side of it, so I just deal with whatever he hands me and try to be positive. Generally speaking, [it] depends on the day.
“I guess it’s a lot about my attitude and this is what I have to deal with for the rest of my life, so might as well make the best of it,” she added.
As for the former couple’s children, Kate told Access the Gosselin youngsters – Maddie and Kara (the twins, born in 2000), and sextuplets Joel, Aaden, Colin, Alexis, Hannah and Leah (born in 2004), are enjoying their escapades that involve the cameras.
“The kids love it and every weekend that they’re home we have something planned. Every vacation, they look forward to it, and we still love it,” she said. “I certainly would not be needing to coerce them into this. If they didn’t love it, we wouldn’t do it any more, but they’re loving it, we’re having the most amazing experiences.”
One of those experiences – featured on Monday night’s episode – sees the Gosselin matriarch and her brood heading Down Under.
“A complete dream come true,” Kate said. “To fly that far away and live that dream was just amazing. We still talk about it every day.” _____________________ What a horrible self-absorbed person. Admitting that her mind goes to cooking dinner while a man is talking (blah,blah, blahing) to her and she is thinking to herself, "I don't care, I don't care". Wow, she never fails to spew hatred and pure unlikeableness. Any man that may have had an interest in dating her would certainly be turned off by that very telling comment.
And she says EVERY weekend that the kids are with her they are filming. Oh, and they love love, love it. The comment about her NOT needing to "coerce" the kids into filming is very interesting and telling. These are HER dreams not her children's dreams.
The only true thing Kate said was she "remained the same throughout in dealing with Jon". I believe that. I believe she is the same old bitchy, controlling, screaming witch she always was to Jon. And again, she throws Jon under bus in this interview, Today's interview, E's interview, and I bet she will do it again on Joy's show.
http://watching-tv.ew.com/2011/04/04/kate-plus-8-australia-review-brilliant/ The reviews start rolling in. EW is even considering not even bothering to review the rest of the season. The comments, as usual, are also overwhelmingly anti-Kate. Didn't watch, anxiously awaiting admin's recap.
The only way to really understand Twitter is to spend time clicking on everything and reading and trying to follow conversations. Believe it or not, it's actually better than it used to be.
Here's my question, and it's not an insult to Twitter lovers everywhere: why would anyone want to go through this? Why would anyone want to go through the trouble of seeing what was deleted and "follow" the lives of strangers? Why would anyone be interested that anyone bought six bags of groceries on a given day, rather than the usual two bags, or went through a car wash? Why would anyone want to "follow" Kate Gosselin around? Isn't that just as obsessive as sheeple setting up shrines, YouTube videos and love, love, love fan pages to her?
Reading around at a couple of sites this morning I picked up: Kate screams a lot. The kids melt down a lot. There is some less than favorable footage shown. Jon is a liar. Kate gently tosses both Sarah Palin and Jon under a bus or two. That's plenty for me. So very glad I took a pass.
As for her twitter, you can make up fake names, use your real ones, whatever, as soon as you start saying negative ones, she'll block you. She will set it to private as soon as the dumb one realizes that the whole wide world can view her tweets, unless that's what she wants. Jon's tweets can only be viewed by his friends. So can mine actually because everytime I tweeted Jon, all these nasty sheeple would tweet me this nasty crap. So when Kate wises up & sees that she's only really gonna get mean & hateful tweets, she'll set her twitter to private. She can still get friend requested, so you can sneak in that way, but one negative comment, & your blocked. Just letting you all know.
I hope her show tanked. I didn't watch. Caught up on some DVR'd Buffy's last night!
E-Town Neighbor said... Hippie! I was thinking about you when I was reading the evening newspaper. The 70s look is back for spring -- anything 70s. Maxi dresses, and below-the-knee loose skirts, with flat, strappy sandals. Maybe someone needs to see that Kate gets the memo!
I saw that in my all my fashion mags! I've been doing that for years! If Kate starts dressing that way, just so we clear this up, I was doing it FIRST!! :)) She couldn't pull it off anyways...she in no way has that vibe...
Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic (aka Anita)
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ADMINISTRATOR, SINCE YOU WATCH THE KATE PLUS 8 TRAIN WRECK EPISODES AND THEN RECAP THEM, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE IT ***USEFUL*** FOR US AND GIVE US A ***LIST*** OF ALL THE COMPANIES WHO ADVERTISED ON THE KATEPLUS8 AUSTRALIA EXTRAVAGANZA GLUTTONFEST. THE ADVERTISERS, PLEASE. GIVE US A LIST OF THE ADVERTISERS SO WE CAN ***BOYCOTT*** ALL THOSE BASTARDS FOR SPONSORING THIS GOD-FORSAKEN WITCH.
Just a tiny bit Board on Board. Did Jon really say somewhere that the kids had not been in touch with him during the whole Australia trip except for the one phone call that somehow made ROL? I remember the phone call, I remember how justified I felt his concerns were with the floods and fires happening near where the kids were staying, but I don't remember anywhere that he said this was the first call from them. There is a whole post out there about how Jon is a liar, Jon is a (in bold face large font) "straight out, bold faced, deliberte" (sic) liar because it was FILMED that the kids called when they first got there. If someone does have a reference that Jon said what the sheeple imagined he said (that the kids never called until the last week) then I defer to the greater wisdom of the zealous fan(atic)s. But until I see a link I will just assume this zealot got it wrong, again.
Hoping this is the beginning of the end for Kate plus 8. Every article I have seen about her or the show has nothing but negativity after negativity. I am starting to think the few fans left are paid by TLC to be her fans. She is truly depised by millions. When she comes down, it will be a hard fall.
Excuse me but the TABLOID article we have, which is based on an ANONYMOUS source, says that Kate actually did allow the kids to keep in touch with Jon the whole trip, especially since he was worried about the floods. I remember at the time we were saying how generous of Kate to let Jon talk to his own kids.
Notwithstanding it's just a tabloid rag article, it does indeed confirm that Kate DID let him talk to the kids, as seen on the show. So sorry, not sure where the "lying" comes in. Jon didn't say anything public about this that I'm aware of, unless I'm missing something. He hasn't made a public statement about Kate in a long time. This article from back in January is consistent with what we saw on the show. Jon was worried, and Kate let the kids call him.
Is there some tweet he wrote about this around the time it happened? I don't follow Jon. If he said they didn't call then yes, he lied. The tabloid articles said all along he was talking to the kids.
Oh my how far we've come Kate. I recall an episode where you were standing in your driveway (where else) screaming like a raging loon to Jon to "stay with your children!" as he's ROLLERBLADING RIGHT BESIDE Cara and Mady; they were biking. Even the ever present cameraman was with them. From what I recall, it seemed to me you lived in a pretty "safe" neighbourhood. I guess if JON is the parent on duty, then NOTHING IS SAFE for them to do. But low and behold, you allow your daughter to participate in a very "THRILL SEEKING" activity, such as the bungee jumping (whatever the actual thing is called). You, my friend, are NUTS!
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Hey! I'm from Canada. What's that supposed to mean? We may have a few sheeple up here but Canadians generally pride themselves on being independant thinkers and not contributing to the dumbing down of the masses. Give us a break eh!
Admin: Oh, yes, they say he lied. They rant, they rave. They have a whole GOTCHA, JON post because now there is PROOF that Jon lied because Kate probably insisted that TLC air that particular bit of film (with the kids talking to Jon when they first get to Australia) just to PROVE that Jon lied. They are so adamant about it I wondered if maybe I was just missing some information.
TINC, I can't find ANYTHING on the internet about any statement Jon said. His tweets are protected so I can't see them. I can only assume this must have been in a tweet? When you do a post, why the hell wouldn't you actually provide the actual tweet?
If he lied, what did he say? He was pissed off she took them to Australia, fair enough, but lying about it is not the answer. But I want to know what the man said.
The only thing I'm aware of about this incident is that Radar's sources were saying all along the kids were calling him.
All that aside? The kids calling their father is none of our damn business and shouldn't be aired, period. Whether the kids call, when, how often, is between Jon, Kate and the courts. None of our effing business. Shame on both of them for discussing it, and shame on Kate for letting it air. My father rarely went out of town but when he did he always called. I cannot imagine having that phone call FILMED and broadcast to millions. Sheesh.
Admin: There is no citation. There is no linkage. There is a lot of GOTCHA, a lot of venom. In other circumstances they have accused Jon of "cleaning house" by erasing tweets so the now invisible tweets may be their source. I don't know. Just as Kate confuses me, her fans leave me reeling, too. Have a fun day!
Can you believe they replayed that old Natalie Morales interview of Kate last night? Who does that? Tears flowing, soliciting sympathy, do you think? Watched it the first time, wouldn't be suckered into seeing it again. Many, many real stars have divorced and haven't had an hour long interview on tv to air their troubles. It was in poor taste the first time and the repeat is even worse. TLC is desperate to attract new fans since the old ones have Kate's number and have lost interest. When will this sham of a show end? I can't wait to see that list of sponsors. All that money wasted to show Kate the "life-changing" advantages of having plenty of money. It's sickening, really, considering there are people out there who are still dying of Aids, Cancer, Heart conditions, etc. Sad, really.
Wow,guys, Robert Irwin is 7 years old...he is just 5 months older than the tups(he's b-day is Dec 1st 2003).The Gosselin kids look pretty small compared to him.Ugh I just can't find that picture...there was a picture of just Robert and one of the tups and he looked so much bigger.Are we sure the tups don't have developmental delays? 6 months is not so much of an age difference
I just did a VERY quick skim of the comments on some of the posts I made during the Australia trip. There were more of them than I remembered.
The only thing I can find in reference to phone calls is first a few comments that hopefully Jon can at least call his kids, then a few days later, someone posted the Radar article that said Kate was indeed allowing him to call the kids. There was some discussion about how very generous it was for Kate to "allow" the children's own father to speak to them. Further discussion about how he has a RIGHT to call his own kids and that it was probably part of the court order when this trip was permitted by the court. Nothing about Jon ever saying he didn't call them. If anything there was relief that he was able to at least talk to them. I can't imagine that not one person here did not notice that Jon allegedly said he wasn't calling them. That would have been significant if Jon was disputing what all the articles were saying and I would be shocked it wasn't posted by SOMEONE. And yet, I don't see it.
If Jon ever said he couldn't call the kids, I really dropped the ball on that and missed it. That would be my fault. And yet, I can't find it. Still waiting to find out if he did say anything to this effect, and what it was....
Well Robert wasn't a preemie. Steve and Terry actually exploited his actual natural BIRTH and he was a big baby. Bindi's birth was filmed and aired too, in all its pushing and grunting and natural childbirth glory. How embarrassing for those kids. Robert's parents are also pretty big robust people. Both tall and Steve was a big guy. He's not towering over them, he's just a few inches taller. I think he's probably on the tall side for a kid his age, and the tups are maybe on the shorter side. But all within normal ranges.
I think that Kate fan site is full of it. They always have screenshots and links and they don't have one for calling Jon a liar. I can see Jon's tweets and he does not mention not speaking to his children, he only mentions not SEEING them for New Years.
If they are referring to an anonymous source in the media saying that Jon didn't speak to his kids that's a whole other story. There are no quotes from Jon saying he never spoke to them, are there? I couldn't find any.
Let them post PROOF Jon said he didn't speak to his children in Australia. I can't find any.
I also would never go by anything they claim to remember because they twist people's words all the time. They can't even read a tweet or blog comment without misunderstanding it or misquoting it. Then they all repeat it as fact. I've seen them do it recently. They do it all the time.
Admin, I am on Jon's twitter. He never said anything about not being in contact with his kids. In fact he never tweeted anything about them while they were in Australia (actually he doesn't tweet anything about them except an occasional - 'they are doing well' when asked how the kids are doing). All he said around that time was something about what he might be doing for New Years and saying he missed his kids a lot in only little update. That was it. Jon had kept very silent for a long time about everything. He never said anything about not talking with his children at all. Tabloids and sheeple all twist things for maximum entertainment. This drives the 'other side' nuts I am sure.
I've seen the owner of that Kate fan blog post lies on purpose to prove a point. She admitted she made it up so that the "haters" will know what it feels like. I actually think she felt stupid once she found out she was wrong but didn't want to admit it or apologize.
Then she left the lies there and continued to let her posters expand on the lies. They all relished in her making up the lies and posting it as truth. They said it was payback. They are a twisted bunch.
If there was no tweet in which Jon said he didn't call the kids, then all we are left with are tabloid articles and anonymous sources. And guess what? The tabloid articles said he CALLED THE KIDS. In fact all the comments from that time on my blog are about how relieved we all were at least he can TALK to his kids while they were gone for so long. The tabloids are perfectly consistent with the show. Jon spoke with the kids during their trip. Jon was worried about the bad weather there and spoke with the kids AGAIN. I don't get it.
Like I said, if he lied, then I'll be the first to point it out. I just don't see the evidence of it. Show me the money as they say. I like gotch-ya moments along with the best of them. But the gotch-ya's have to be based on fact!
There was a possible "gotch-ya" moment in Australia where Kate was caught allegedly being chummy with a pap, posing for photos with him etc. The problem is I wasn't 100% convinced he was a true and true pap, maybe only 50% convinced and sorry, that's not eough. Yes I saw him taking photos but he could have been an amateur. I didn't post it. I also thought it was a possibility Kate just didn't realize he was something more than a run of the mill fan. He could have presented himself as a fan with a nice camera. It's not about an agenda, it's not about gotch-ya, it's about being sure. I wasn't going to accuse Kate of a gotchya without sufficient proof, just as I wouldn't do it to Jon.
And speaking of lying, I'm still waiting for that same site to take down the lies about how I begged for money. Oh wait, there is no screen shot, link, proof, etc of that either. I guess I know how Jon feels.
ROL must be paid dearly by TLC to write things about Kate. They describe her as a superstar and gorgeous. Delusional and laughing all the way to the bank, don't you think? I didn't click on the entire article, but the tease was sickening enough. Syrupy, really. My diabetic numbers went up just viewing the tease. TLC is desperate to keep Kate relevant. Can't wait to see the viewer numbers.
One final thought, even if back during the trip Jon claimed he wasn't able to call the kids, I am sure I would have been very skeptical of that.
I'm a family law attorney. No judge I have ever known would allow a mother to take the children out of the country for three weeks without a provision to have frequent phone contact with their father. In fact, I doubt she could even get by with a small trip of three or four days without a court order commanding her to allow Jon to talk to his kids.
I just wouldn't have believed anyone's crying anyway if anyone was claiming Jon wasn't allowed to talk to the kids. Get your butt down to court and make the judge order it, you have a right to it and there isn't a judge in the land who would have refused such a reasonable request.
Where oh Where...not only was she all over NYC, she was tweeting about where she was going: At lunch, Heading to HLN/JoyBehar Waiting for my car etc.... No paps no photos no one cars.
I think her tweets are more for getting photogs to follow her. She doesn't respond to fan tweets. Actually only responded to two. One of them was to the hairdresser who was plugging the hair color and number ( INOA blonde-9.01 30vol-GORGE ) that Kate uses. (Miss Ultimate Fan is you are reading this now you know, bet you are giddy with excitement - however not all salons get to use the INOA products - better start hunting now)
Omg! I’m totally laughing! I was listening to a local talk show this morning; they were talking about Kirstie Alley and how she didn’t fall to pieces after the mis-step last night on DWTS but continued on graciously and gracefully.
The talk show guys evolved into if this had happened to someone else, how would they have handled it. The one guy says, how about that Kate lady? What was her name again? That one with 900 kids?
The other host says, Oh yeah! Kate….Kate….Kate…. oh! Gosselin…yeah. She would have started up with the lame excuses and would have gone on and on and on about how it wasn’t her fault. Remember? She’s the one who hates her ex so bad. She would have blamed it on him.
The hosts yucked it up while they made up lame excuses that they thought Kate would have made about it being Jon’s fault.
But then they got back to how Kate has NO sense of humor about herself and would have blamed everybody else, her partner, the costumer, the hair-dresser; how hateful she is.
I thought it was pretty funny that the one guy had absolutely no idea what her last name was. So much for being a “stah”, eh?
Kind of fun little game to play….watch for Steve in this latest episode. See how many times you can spot him. He’s hiding behind bushes, lurking in the trees, standing way far away from the group. If you watch carefully you can see him standing way ahead of the group, or far off to the side.
Pay attention to what he has on…then in the close-up, tight shots you can see his feet, or the edge of his shoulder, or the bottom of his shorts sticking into the frame.
As an example, watch the scene where they’re leaving the camp-site, if you watch the trees up ahead of them you can see Steve lurking on the path. He actually walks back and forth a few times on the path.
If you didn’t know it was Steve, you’d think that they had a prowler or intruder/stalker. If that had been a stranger, you’d ask why the person was spying on the Gosselins!
One of the scenes where they were walking back to the bus….there’s Steve walking ahead of the group, leading the way a Dad might, carrying one of the children! Kate’s following behind, chomping on her gum, carrying only her purse, like she’s one of the kids.
Once you start not watching what they’re featuring, you can spot Steve all over the place! This works best if you turn the sound off.
The difference between Kate and the Irwins is that the Irwins have always been about teaching people about wildlife and conservation. I don't believe they care a whit about personal fame except as how it gives them the means to reach so many people. It is not about them, it is about the animals. It is a true passion and calling. And passionate people always seem a bit crazy. I think they are good people who love each other and what they do.
.Are we sure the tups don't have developmental delays? 6 months is not so much of an age difference
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Height is genetic. Jon is fairly short, probably no more than 5'7''. Kate is about the same. It's a stereotype that Asians are shorter than Caucasians, but one that our President seems to believes: "Obviously there are a lot of folk from Asian ancestry in Hawaii, generally the teams aren’t as tall." I wonder how he explains Yao Ming's (Houston Rockets) height at 7'6''!
Kids develop at different ages. I remember that one of the boys in my first grade class was very tiny, small-boned, and homely. Some of the kids teased him and called him "squirt." The summer between sixth and seventh grades, something happened, and he shot up and kept growing. By the time he was a junior, he was a six-footer, well-built, and a hunk! You just never know! The girls who had called him squirt wanted to date him, but he didn't give them the time of day! Payback!
I did catch the end of the episode and there is something that really bugs me. As they are all walking away, Khate talks about how all the children thanked her so much for taking them on the trip. What kids do that? She has said that in previous episodes as well - "thank you mommy, thank you" she recalls, as though she has done them some great favour. Bugs the crap out of me! I would expect my kids to be happy, joyful, but not grateful to me.
ADMIN, Jon did NOT post a single thing about a phone call from or TO the kids. Not sure where they got that lie from, but it was NOT from his tweets. He is very quiet about even his weekends with the kids, he has gotten so much grief about it. Then when he stopped mentioning his weekends, they attacked him with "why are you NOT saying anything about your children". Such drivel. I am glad he is quiet about it now. Even when he did mention them being with him, he didn't divulge much of anything.
I am sick of the hypocrisy of these people. Ok Jon being in the public eye too, is fair game for comments, just like Kate. But to keep going after the guy over and over, when it is CLEAR he has moved on and working and wants a private life, enough already. Also the attacks on Ellen are inexcusable. That girl has done nothing to deserve the rath of these people. If Kate DID meet some guy who is good to her kids and to her, I would NEVER attack the man. They should be happy that Ellen does seem to really care for those kids, and they seem to care for her. She includes them in HER life. IF they cared about the kids at all, of course, they would be happy. If I were Kate, I would appreciate that too, and also be ADULT and met the girl. They have been together for almost a year, so it looks like she will be around. I would want to KNOW who was around my kids and have an amicable relatiionship. But I think that is impossible for Kate, I believe the woman is just too immature to act decently. Plus, when there is STILL such blatant hostility, there are many feelings still there. No forgiveness, no "moving on". Mucho feelings of some kind.
Mel said... No thanks. I don't watch this show. The less viewers they have, the sooner the show will be cancelled. I really do NOT get anyone who posts on this site would even watch. I really don't. WHY add to the numbers? Makes no sense to me, sorry. Certainly not telling anyone what to do, but it just doesn't make SENSE to me. Sorry
"Administrator said... I too am skeptical of the whole I just cant find a man routine."
Admin I am with you. They surely are pushing it more and more. The filming of her talking and dancing with men in NYC? Every single interview you can tell that the questions are prearranged. It is the same 2 core quesions. About Jon, and this dating thing. LOL I suppose the relationship rumors with Steve are really getting to them.
The stupid stuff she said about dating on Access Hollywood. “It’s hard to find the time, it’s hard to go on a date, and hear somebody, blah, blah, blah-ing and you’re thinking, ‘I don’t care, I don’t care! What am I making for dinner tomorrow night?’’” Kate said.
Wow what a way to make a man feel special, eh? Blah blah blah. Gosh can't imagine why she can't seem to hook a fella. LOL
Girl from Up North asked: What kids do that? She has said that in previous episodes as well - "thank you mommy, thank you" she recalls, as though she has done them some great favour.
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What kids do that? Kids who have a narcissist for a mother! Haven't they been programmed to know that she expects it? It's their duty to be thankful to her. It's all about HER.
Where oh where have all the paps gone???? said... Well, well, well!!! A full day of moving around NYC. Interviews and lunch and who knows what but not one Pap pic!!!!
ADMIN sorry about all these posts, last one for now, I promise. (I MUST check here more often LOL) I have been reading about little Cara's meltdown she had ON FILM. That is just sickening to me. That girl is getting older and this, to me, is just inexcusable. I did NOT watch this show, and won't every again, so not sure if the meltdown is true or not.
I also heard that some tweets to Kate from a FAN, after saying they love the show, says they can't wait for the "usual meltdown" of Mady's, that this what they wait to see and really enjoy it. I sincerely hope that was total sarcasm. I hope it was. I mean. Really?? These poor kids are NEVER going to live this crap down.
"And passionate people always seem a bit crazy. I think they are good people who love each other and what they do."
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I respectfully disagree with that. Not all passionate people always seem a bit crazy. There are thousands of people out there who are passionate about what they do, and they do it without fanfare and flourish...Civil Rights activists, philanthropists, environmentalists, humanitarians, spiritual leaders.
I think that the Irwins most certainly see dollar signs and fame as being very important. What if Bindi wanted to be a physician or a social worker? Do you think that her mother would be supportive? Somehow I cannot see her encouraging her daughter in anything other than the "family business."
Get ready for a new bachelorette type show. Just too coincidental that the topic keeps coming up whenever she's interviewed. NO mention of the new season/Australia episode with Matt on the Today show. Just like DWTS, she let it out so coyly, and poof! there she was! Weren't they taping some kind of dating thing on her birthday in NYC??? The reason I think TLC can't let go of her is because it put them on the map, so to speak. They made AAAAAA LOOOOOTTTT of money with her. I think they're just trying to find another "magic formula", but it's not happening.
I just saw the webisode with Ashley and the milkshakes, why are those kids never allowed to pick their own icecream? Why can't they ever go into the icecream shop, what is the hurry. Ashley sounds more and more like Kate, how could the shop have milkshakes but no icecream. Half the fun for kids is looking at all the icecream and trying to decide, if you don't have time to do that you shouldn't bother to get icecream at all.
There is a website, rhymes with plop, & I don't go there anymore, wanna know why? Because EVERYONE says "I won't watch, I'm not gonna watch". Well, I just went over there to check it out, & every other post was a comment about the damn show last night. So hypocritical IMO. I have stopped going over there for awhile now, I couldn't take all the rules, but wow. When you see some of the excuses, "I just HAD to watch to see if this was true", it really makes us look bad, dontcha think? It's like, do you secretly love her? If you can't stand her sooooo much, why watch? Is she really worth your precious time? If you want the kids off TV & you really want Kate off Tv & AWAY from the media, WHY ARE YOU WATCHING & contributing? hypocritical. (sorry, bad day. It's gloomy & gray outside. and we don't need that wench winning) Agreed? (I am happy to see here that we all turned away. We ROCK at 15 minutes!)
This was all I found about Jon and the phone calls from Australia. They refer to Radar Online:
The Berks County dad did not want his kids to go on the two-week trip to Australia and New Zealand and tried to get a Berks County judge to block the trip because he wanted to spend New Year with his kids. But the judge at Berks County Court ruled that Kate could take the children down-under because it was work related.
Reportedly Jon was worried when Australia was hit with flooding. Australia's northeastern state of Queensland has been flooded by drenching rains that began in November sending rivers spilling over their banks and flooding huge areas. So far, 16 people have been killed in the floods with a reported 43 people missing in the area where Kates and the kids visited.
"Naturally, Jon was worried because his kids were so far away and in an area that was hit by the freaky weather," a source told RadarOnline. "But to her credit Kate kept him posted and he was allowed to talk to his kids on the phone - who saw the trip as a huge adventure. Luckily, they missed the worst of the floods and they should return safe and sound to America shortly so that Jon can be re-united with them again."
Girl from Up North said... I did catch the end of the episode and there is something that really bugs me. As they are all walking away, Khate talks about how all the children thanked her so much for taking them on the trip. What kids do that? ________________________________________
Kate: My kids thanked me for _____________.
Translation: "See, they really do appreciate this stuff. They love filming, they are very grateful for the opportunities, the crying and pouting are just an act and they really do love doing all of this. BECAUSE I SAID SO AND THEREFORE IT IS TRUE."
It seems like TLC is pushing this - they see money, money, money, and ratings, ratings, ratings. See Kate. See Kate date. See Kate fight with date. See date leave Kate. See Kate find another date. See Kate dance on bar. See Kate get dumped again. See Kate in crocodile tears. Hear Kate say, "I don't get it. I just don't get it. Everyone in my life leaves me."
Would people watch? Of course! It's a whole other ball of wax. Let's get those ratings back up to divorce times again...nothing like a good tragic love story to bring viewers back to the fold.
IDK which sheeple blog you're referring to making the accusations about Jon, but if the sheeple had any proof that Jon had said he wasn't allowed to talk to the kids they would have copy/pasted it into their post like they do everything else. The reason they didn't post it is because it doesn't exist. They've once again, taken an article from Radar that is easy to understand and misinterpreted it, twisted it, and/or lied to bash Jon. I follow Jon and he did not tweet anything about not being allowed to talk to his kids while on the trip.
That whole Radar article from January was discussed on the blogs when it happened and there was speculation that the contempt of court charge Jon filed when Kate was gone was because he'd had no contact with the kids -- but NO PROOF exists for the contempt charge because it's not public record. The sheeple can't differentiate between fact and fiction and can't read an article and separate it from speculation and discussion. There was no proof of the speculation of it back in January and they're just bringing up old news but trying it with a new twist.
But, why are we talking about what's posted on a sheeple blog anyway? Why go there and read? Why engage with them? Leave them alone and they'll go away. Just like if there are no viewers of Kate's show it'll go away.
There is a website, rhymes with plop, & I don't go there anymore, wanna know why? Because EVERYONE says "I won't watch, I'm not gonna watch". Well, I just went over there to check it out, & every other post was a comment about the damn show last night
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Hippie: I am laughing, not at you, but with you. We must have been there at the same time because I was thinking the same thing! There is one poster, who shall remain nameless, who carries on unmercifully with hatred for Kate and the show, but then said that they watched because they just had to see if one event that was discussed was true. What kind of rationalization is that? Posters want the show OFF THE AIR, but they continue to watch!
But then I do wonder why, if we don't watch, it is recapped, and then discussed. Granted, it's not contributing to the ratings, but it's still putting it out there for dissection.
"Ashley sounds more and more like Kate, how could the shop have milkshakes but no icecream." ============
Of course an ice cream shop has ice cream! The kids probably wanted ice cream, but it was too messy, sob she flat out told them they only had milkshakes because it was much easier for them to drink shakes than to deal with ice cream. Nothing like a little fib to get the job done!
Someone, don't remember who, asked about the difference between Kate posting with Twitterific and Mobile Web. Mobile Web is the browser in a smart phone. She probably did the first few tweets through the browser (internet) on her phone or someone else's phone (or someone else set it up on their phone and did it for her). The last tweets were done on an iphone or ipad app (application) called Twitterific. It makes it easier to tweet than going through your browser.
fidosmommy said...I don't think Joy B. has much use for Sherri S. =====
Someone said it earlier, Joy talks out of both sides of her mouth. She bashes Kate on her show all the time and calls the G8 brats. She laughed along with everyone else when Jay Thomas called her a brood sow. If Kate really wanted to defend herself and more importantly her children she'd go on the show and challenge Joy on all those things that she's said about her family. Of course she won't because she's eager to stay relevant and there's no way she can honestly defend exploiting her kids. Besides that she has no clue how to handle a seasoned big-mouth like Joy who, if she wanted to, could destroy Kate in a second if it was possible to engage her in an actual unscripted discussion.
So we know damn well Kate's appearance on Joy's show today will be all about dating and hints about a new dating show. It's all intertwined to promote the faux-celebrity culture of reality tv. Kate wallows in it and so does Joy. It's a huge farce and so sad that the only way she could do it was by pimping her kids and dragging them into the muck and mire of it all.
The guy in the speedo looks great. I love speedos think all men with a decent body like that should wear them. I love seeing mens thighs. It looks really sexy on the right figure. I cant get over all the people who criticize them so much. They are just as sexy on the right guy as bikinis are on women.
Kate will NEVER find a man unless she finds one very willing to subject himself to her assholery. The problem is, you usually have to charm a person first, then reveal the assholery slowly over time, but every guy on the planet already KNOWS what she's like!
Secondly, WHY IS SHE TALKING ABOUT HER KID'S MEDICAL ISSUES AND THERAPY ON TV? Oh my GOD. When my daughter was in fourth and fifth grade, she had to go to a counselor for a while for anxiety issues. I didn't even tell some family members about it, because it was none of their damn business and I wanted to protect her privacy. This woman is blabbing about her kids' therapy and medical shit on national TV! She has no boundaries where those kids are concerned.
But I guess when you see them as a sellable object, you don't really give a rip about their feelings or privacy.
She's such a soulless hag, I swear to God. She makes Joan Crawford look like Winnie the Pooh.
Mel said... Kind of fun little game to play….watch for Steve in this latest episode. See how many times you can spot him. He’s hiding behind bushes, lurking in the trees, standing way far away from the group. If you watch carefully you can see him standing way ahead of the group, or far off to the side.....
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Thanks but no thanks. I don't find anything about Kate's show to be fun or a game. I don't watch the show for a number of reasons but the main one is that I can't stand that the children are WORKING to support themselves and their mother's lavish lifestyle and that the show exploits their childhoods for profit.
A number of articles posted recently have said the show will end this season if it gets bad ratings and people watching the show won't help the numbers go down. Here's one article:
'Kate Plus 8' season premiere review: It's off to a brilliant start... or is it?
TLC is offering up all new episodes of 'Kate Plus 8' starting tonight. And although the new season pulls out all the stops, including taking Kate Gosselin and her kids to Australia for the premiere, insiders tell me that everyone, especially Kate, is worried that she might not receive a warm welcome back.
"This season Kate has been told to bring her A-game," a TV producer tells me. "If her ratings drop to the 1 million mark this will be her last season, and then Kate would have to get a real job."
An insider assures me the new 'Kate Plus 8' episodes pack the goods: "You are going to see Kate spend another night camping, but this time without Sarah Palin. You will see her explore Sydney, meet with aboriginals and even swim with sharks in an attempt to win back viewers." TLC gave the reality star a lucrative opportunity to have her own show after she and Jon called it quits. But despite the hype, Kate's spinoff, 'Kate Plus 8,' did not bring in the numbers TLC had hoped for.
The series debut brought in 3.4 million, but the second episode dropped 33 percent to 2.2 million viewers before stabilizing with around 1.6 million viewers per episode -- way below the staggering 10 million that tuned in for the infamous episode in which Jon and Kate finally announced their divorce.
Still, a source close to Kate tells me that TLC continues to have faith in the Gosselins. "TLC hadn't really done 'Kate Plus 8' in a series way until now -- it was just sporadic specials that people had trouble finding," my source says. "TLC does believe in her." http://www.popeater.com/2011/04/04/kate-plus-8-new-season/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl3|sec1_lnk2|54162
BTW, notice that Kate Plus 8 is a SERIES and no longer sporadic specials like Kate and TLC said it would be when the show returned.
YOU HIT IT, once again. WHY watch this mess? Why post on a blog about Kate then turn around and add to the numbers?? MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. Sooner or later they will show it again. Either you are serious or not about getting these kids off TV. It really is maddening to me. I would bet that HALF the viewers are NON fans. Doesn't that make you feel good??
NT...ratings take a few days to come out. That guy on the ratings page LOVES it when people bug them about ratings for the show, he just absolutely gloated how people ask and ask. He mocked all the people who kept asking, I won't even go to that site any longer.
Moose Mania said... I agree about the recaps too, I really don't even care about the show, eventually it will be available to watch it, IF someone really wants to. (Even tho Admin does do a great job of recapping(
For those of you that don't understand Twitter, you cannot delete someone else's tweets to you. Only the person who did the tweet can delete it.
You can BLOCK a person if they are harassing you or you don't want to read their tweets for whatever reason. All you can do is block them. They can still include your name in their tweets and anyone else can read them.
Everyone else that does a search for or follows the person who made the tweet can see it.
Also, if you are blocked from someone, you cannot read their tweets unless you do a search in the twitter search box for their twitter name. You can view their tweets if you sign out too.
The only time you cannot view their tweets is if they are on Private. You have to request to Follow them and they have to approve you. They can block you at any time.
If she "follows" someone then that person's tweets will always show on her main page or Home Screen along with hers.
If she doesn't "follow" them then she will have to go to her Mentions or @ to view them.
There she can view any tweets that "mention" her. She would have to read through them ALL or at least pass through them all to see all the love fest tweets.
You do not have to have a twitter account to read someone's tweets, unless they are on Private, but they would have to approve you.
Hope that answers most of your questions about Twitter.
Moose Mania said... But then I do wonder why, if we don't watch, it is recapped, and then discussed. Granted, it's not contributing to the ratings, but it's still putting it out there for dissection.
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Amen to that! Now there are two of us who wonder. LOL
I just want to clarify an earlier tweet I did. Jon did not actually comment on not seeing his children for New Years. He thanked another tweeter for their well wishes to him despite not seeing his children for New Years. All Jon wrote was Thank you.
Hippie Chick and Moose Mania, I'm in the same boat as you. I pretty much come to this blog, haven't been to the other for a few months. I'm really, pleasantly surprised not to see a single post in this thread from anyone talking about last night's show. And this thread was created for discussion of the episode! High fives to everyone here!
Girl up North, according to Khate, the kids have been "thanking" her for their vacations since the tups were probably three years old. She's used this line before, the first of which might have been their first trip to Disney World, or perhaps the Utah ski trip. And I agree, no kid that age says that to their parents. Khate will say whatever she needs to to justify filming, and she's been speaking FOR her kids for years. And those comments she made on the Today show yesterday, about following the therapist's orders to continue filming, and that she's doing the right thing? Stupidest thing she's ever said...EVER.
No Regrets - Yes, Cara had a meltdown. They were watching the fireworks on a platform with other people and they had one small spot with a bench to sit on. Cara was sitting on the end and looked sort of squished. One of the other kids was whining about wanting to sit down, Kate asked/told (can't remember) to move down. Cara had that sullen expression kids get, especially when they are tired and cold and it's late at night and they really would rather be back at the hotel. Cara at one point started complaining and crying and Kate told ashley to take her to the van. A few moments later, Kate looked at Mady who began protesting her innocence and started crying and begging not to be taken to the van. I realize the kids are melodramatic (they've learned from the best), esp. girls at that age but Mady's expression and voice took me aback. It sounded like going to the van was code for being thrown in boiling oil. After the whole thing Kate acknowledged that with the jet lag, beach day, boomerang lesson and New Years party she threw for them at the hotel, going to see fireworks probably wasn't the best idea.
Moose Mania said... But then I do wonder why, if we don't watch, it is recapped, and then discussed. Granted, it's not contributing to the ratings, but it's still putting it out there for dissection. ===== I didn't watch K+8 last night but I think the recaps that expose her lies and abusive behavior should be discussed. Aside from her other disorders she's a child exploiter and so is TLC. It shouldn't be ignored it needs to be stopped. It's the same as ignoring drunk drivers in the hope that they'll just go away. Laws need to pull the reins in on people who put children on reality shows.
Jon has a private twitter account. He has a little over 2000 people following him, so he has to approve everyone who sends a request. I sent him a request because I'm genuinely interested in following him. I won't follow her, though. Why would I?
Yeah Hippie Chick I stopped going to that site a long time ago I did go there for the first time in months a couple hours ago and I see nothing changer: promises, threatens,disgust before every episode and "I had to watch" I was flipping through.." "My brother was watching and I was stuck in the room" " and all the other lame excuses after every episode.Give me a break! You either watch or you don't this is in black and white, no way to spin it.
I saw online the preview with Cara jumping,I would have done that at ten over my mother's dead body.I would have wanted but no none would have said yes to me.I would do this now, as an adult however.I would never let my 10 year old daughter do it(if I had one).
Also, Admin and Moose Mania(I think) thank you for clarifying the developmental (apparently nonexistent) issues :) I'm glad they're fine because they don't need this too the poor kids.
"I love speedos think all men with a decent body like that should wear them. I love seeing mens thighs. It looks really sexy on the right figure. I cant get over all the people who criticize them so much."
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Do you mean people with conservative taste? Could it be that some just don't like a display of sex on the beach and letting it all hang out for public perusal? I guess it's all in how one was raised, and how much one is willing to put out there to be scrutinized! ;-)
After the whole thing Kate acknowledged that with the jet lag, beach day, boomerang lesson and New Years party she threw for them at the hotel, going to see fireworks probably wasn't the best idea. ****************** I *distinctly* remember an old epi of J&K plus 8 (in the old house) where Kate was complaining about (6 yo) Mady's grumpiness and stated that 6 year olds still need naps. I didn't watch the Aussie show, but it sounds like after a 21 hour flight, they hit the ground running and if some of the kids melted down at midnight, well, I'd have melted down long before that! That is just plain grueling.
No regrets said... I would bet that HALF the viewers are NON fans. Doesn't that make you feel good??
No, no it doesn't. I have felt that for a long time. People watch this because Kate is a big ole' trainwreck. WHY do the so-called haters insist on watching? I don't know. I'm not blaming anywhere here, it looks like we held strong at 15 Minutes...but dammit, rhymes w/ plop, one of the reasons I stopped posting over there is because we couldn't say how we actually felt about people watching. Look, we're all frigin adults, as long as no one is getting hurt, it's coolio, but HELLO? Aren't the kids getting hurt? Isn't the whole reason we're here fighting the big bad is so the kids can have a chance at a normal childhood & get Kate OUT of the spotlight? IF YOU WATCH, YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE RATINGS. PERIOD.
Kate needs to go. She is a lying, conniving, fame-whoring, wanna-be, famous for the sake of being famous, riding the limelight on the backs of her kids, undeserving, greedy, grifting, ugly on the inside, mean, non-maternal, friendless, sack of crap nobody who is riding high in the lap of luxury because she sought the spotlight by insisting to her husband & doctors that she couldn't have children, in turn having multiples & then reaching out her hand palm up to receive anything & everything she could have, including a television show (big breath) that she can't even carry on her own without her kids. OH, yeah...Kate SO deserves the ratings. And the local dealer who beats his girlfriend in his meth lab deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. (I'm going to go take a walk now with my dog. :)) *happy thoughts to all*
I have been reading about little Cara's meltdown she had ON FILM. That is just sickening to me. That girl is getting older and this, to me, is just inexcusable. **********
Kate once mentioned on the show that Cara bottles up all her emotions, similar to Jon, so when something finally ticks her off all these emotions come gushing to the surface.
Kate doesn't teach her kids how to cope when things go wrong or don't go their way, she's living proof of what happens when she can't cope with a situation i.e. camping in Alaska, etc. - if her kids see mommy meltdown, then they'll think it's okay for them to meltdown too.
I'm worried about these meltdowns, especially from the twins, because I feel like it's more than just not getting what they want (unlike the sextuplets at their age). Since the start of their reality show, I sort of felt like the twins were treated second-rate in that family, even though they get to partake in these "wonderful life-experiences". It seemed like the show and the Gosselin parents were more concerned about the sextuplets, while the twins were extras just so the viewers can marvel at how Kate deals with 8 kids total.
Now that the twins are older, I wonder if they're starting to realize this unfair treatment by both Kate and the crew. That's on top of everything else a 10 year old girl starts dealing with, including their parents' divorce and growing up in the spotlight.
I hope these girls are receiving proper guidance from others or professional help so they can learn how to deal with life better than what their own mother has taught them (which isn't much).
Protect the Gosselin 8 said... Kate once mentioned on the show that Cara bottles up all her emotions, similar to Jon, so when something finally ticks her off all these emotions come gushing to the surface.
Kate doesn't teach her kids how to cope when things go wrong or don't go their way, she's living proof of what happens when she can't cope with a situation i.e. camping in Alaska, etc. - if her kids see mommy meltdown, then they'll think it's okay for them to meltdown too. -----------------------------
OMG, think about this for a minute. The kids emotions & outbursts mirror Kates. This is so dead on. So does Kate tell them it's ok for mommy to act that way, but they will be punished severly if THEY act that way?
I don't know. I'm not blaming anywhere here, it looks like we held strong at 15 Minutes...but dammit, rhymes w/ plop, one of the reasons I stopped posting over there is because we couldn't say how we actually felt about people watching.
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A mod just posted over there that the discussion is open to those who watched the show, and if a poster didn't agree with watching the show, he/she shouldn't be there.
"She is a lying, conniving, fame-whoring, wanna-be, famous for the sake of being famous, riding the limelight on the backs of her kids, undeserving, greedy, grifting, ugly on the inside, mean, non-maternal, friendless, sack of crap nobody who is riding high in the lap of luxury because she sought the spotlight by insisting to her husband & doctors that she couldn't have children, in turn having multiples & then reaching out her hand palm up to receive anything & everything she could have, including a television show (big breath) that she can't even carry on her own without her kids.
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Geez, Hippie. Can you say that in one breath? That's one LONG sentence. Now, tell us how you really feel!!
silimom said... …but Mady's expression and voice took me aback. It sounded like going to the van was code for being thrown in boiling oil
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I was flipping channels and came upon the show at that time and thought the same thing. Between her voice and the way she put her hands up in protest (or as protection), I couldn't help to wonder what would have happened if the camera wasn't rolling. It was so uncomfortable to watch that I had to turn off the TV.
Hippie Chick, I so agree with you about not watching the "show." We will only see this end when Kate is no longer anywhere. My husband believes even the blogs must disappear for the "suits" at TLC to end this mess. I get so disgusted by the fact that Kate and others are rewarded with trips, appearances, etc., and they do absolutely nothing to deserve it. So many, many "snakes in the grass." Kate is one of the worst for exploiting her children. That "thank you, mommy" business is sickening. Who but a self serving person would require that from their children? Teaching manners is one thing, this demand is quite another. Sad the children don't realize that no one in the family would even be on a trip of any kind with out them being filmed. When the kids mature and start asking questions about the money, it will not be pretty. Get ready, Kate.
I agree with and wonder the same things.Why are the haters watching this show??I tried to post there and here last night asking the exact same question.I wasent rude,and I didnt call anyone out.Neither site posted my post.I did use anon in fear of some backlash tho.I simply asked why are the "haters" watching this show?We ask the sheeple all the time why they watch.
At the other site there was a poster going on and on about how tlc thinks anyone is going to watch this "crappy" show....its a waste...and kate is skum...then in the next breath the poster says..I'm watching it right now! WTF? Thats what I dont get.I really think the "haters" give a larger audience than the sheeple.I also thought we came to these sites to try and help get these kids thier lives back.The only way we can do this is by NOT watching the show. kate was on for over 6 hours in my neck of the woods.I didnt feel the need to check it out for even a second.I guess I just dont understand it.
I've had nightmares after seeing 80 year old men wearing speedos at the beach, especially when they are hanging out of the speedo or they open up or pull the suit down to get sand out of it.
Can we say Hypocrite? I'm on twitter and I wanted to see what this idiot is "Twatting about" This one makes me vomit, she's giving advice about "not bad mouthing the kids'father".
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin RT @tashapork @Kateplusmy8 Ans: don't give in to talking badly about ur kids dad no matter what. B pos. hard but wld be my bst advice 2u
Hey HypoKate, you're not qualified to give any advice to anyone. Maybe you can start charging your weirdo die hard fans, they seem to think you holier than the Virgin Mary.....NOT. Puke.
"I was just flipping through the channels......I just watched during my show's commercials.....I just had to see how they handled the bungee scene...."
What a crock. I am so thankful for the integrity of the posters on this site, and for our Admin, who will write a kick-ass recap. There's not a single good reason in the world for watching.
I kinda wish I could watch the kids, but I get physically sick when she sprawls out on the couch spewing her self-serving comments with ber boobs all propped up and hanging out in a room full of men.
I am old school and my mamma said ladies don't sit like that in front of men - especialy when they are 2 feet in front of you and it is being broadcast to hopefully less than a million.
I also don't like the way she sugars those kids up for their interview and tell to act all excited when nothing excites them anymore and they have to "act."
What on earth would we think if we tuned into Nancy Grace and she was splayed out on the desk half dressed expounding about what a great mom she is to the twins she has at home. I am thinking there would be an uprising against her show.
And another thing (I'm riled) there must be something coming up with Jon in court. I saw the clip on Joy - Jon this, Jon that, I try to be positive intimating that he is negative. It try to think what is best for the kids, the kids, the kids intimating that he does not. It used to be that people who were being blasted would have the opportunity to give their side as well. She takes full advantage of the fact that he can't do that thanks to TLC (big brother). His name should not be mentioned - the divorce was long ago and they should be comfortable in their arrangements by now.
What on earth would we think if we tuned into Nancy Grace and she was splayed out on the desk half dressed expounding about what a great mom she is to the twins she has at home
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I think that she does that without being half-dressed. I stopped watching her show when the twins were born. I got so sick and tired of hearing, "the twins did this," "the twins did that," "Little Lucy and John David..." and then the photos. Keep your family life private! We don't need to hear that every night you walk into the twins' room, check on them to make sure they are breathing, and then have viewers call to say what a great mom she is, how precious the twins are, ad nauseum. The show isn't about her mothering or the twins, although she doesn't resist the chance to mention them when the opportunity presents itself.
I didn't watch. I haven't watched for a couple of years now because of the way Kate acts, the screeching, the me, me, me attitude etc...
As for the kids meltdowns, well I think part of it is that the kids were never taught how to act any other way. To them, it's normal to bash each other on the head, push, shove, have a temper tantrum etc... These children have not had very much guidence in life (except for Aunt Jodi but we know how that ended). They were essentially born and performed before the cameras.
As for the twins, they too have never had a lot of guidence in their life either. The closest they came was probably staying with Kate's parents when she was on her "bed rest".
I hope that what the children are lacking in parenting from Kate they are getting from Jon (fingers crossed).
And of course there is always the distinct chance that one or more of the children will end up being just like Kate. They may grow up to be narcissicists too with the same sense of entitlement. I hope not but it could happen.
I wish we could get a comparison for these ratings with the ones previously. All that money, all that hype....they probably spent about $1.00 per viewer considering Khate's exorbitant fee.
There are numerous references and comments about the sheeple and their website. I tried to go to: gosselinfamilyfansite but after a second or two it directs me to a mental health website. No kidding! Can someone help me visit this website that everyone is always talking about. Thanks.
Isn't it just in such poor taste for Kate to even mention Jon at all? She knows he has moved on to a romantic relationship with another woman. He works a job away from showbiz. She takes any pot shot she can at him. Jealous, do you think? It's like obsession. Get a life. 50% of marriages today end in divorce. Kate is not the only person in this situation. She in fact set the whole thing up. Now, live with it. Enjoy your kids and leave Jon alone. Misery loves company, do you think? Is all this talk of dating leading up to a special announcement? TLC loves this woman. Why?
now the sheeple are trying to say that Jon deleted a bunch of tweets so that is probably going to make it hard to find the "lie".
1.3 million? After all the time gone and money spent and thats where they are? I bet TLC was hoping for more.. or maybe not, because they sure havent put a whole lot of marketing behind it.
I agree it's very weird that she even talks about him publicly. If interviewers ask, she can just politely decline the question or tell them in advance no Jon or divorce questions. Of course, she would never do that. She's still pissed he isn't hanging around to be her scapegoat and target. It's obvious he's totally moved on and she has NOT. The ironic thing is she left him!
Admin: Another site is reporting that the ratings were just 1.3 million. For a "season premiere" and all the publicity she did on national television I think her goose is cooked. Can we only hope?
Re: Speedos. To each his own - I personally don't have an issue with them, but I grew up swimming competetively in the 70's and 80's and every boy on my team wore one. I don't care for overweight men in them, but by the same token I don't care for overweight women in bikinis. But I understand that the look isn't something that everyone likes and recognize that most people aren't comfortable with it.
However! "Mr. Speedo" from the show was extraordinarily nice and pleasant to Kate. He was friendly, seemed to be generally interested in her and her family without being creepy, and just seemed like a nice man. He was also not from Australia (she couldn't seem to remember what country he was from, of course). But after they showed the scene of them on the beach, Kate proceeded to bash him for wearing the Speedo and laugh at him and shudder like it was the grossest thing she'd ever seen and carry on like a total witch. It was so disrespectful - not only of the customs of different countries (North Americans tend to be the only ones vehamently opposed to the Speedo look), but of a fan who was soooo nice to her. And for her to stand there with her cleavage hanging out and her high cut bikini bottom and to criticize HIM for wearing too little was just beyond hypocritical.
Dont you think this blog would have been all over it had Jon actually said he couldnt call his own kids?? You can bet I would! It feeds right into my belief that kate is an obsessed parental alienator. And yet we weren't because--it never happened.
LaLaLandNoMore said... Isn't it just in such poor taste for Kate to even mention Jon at all? She knows he has moved on to a romantic relationship with another woman. He works a job away from showbiz. She takes any pot shot she can at him. Jealous, do you think? It's like obsession. Get a life. 50% of marriages today end in divorce. Kate is not the only person in this situation. She in fact set the whole thing up. Now, live with it. Enjoy your kids and leave Jon alone. Misery loves company, do you think? Is all this talk of dating leading up to a special announcement? TLC loves this woman. Why?
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I think her obsession with Jon is because she is a control freak and Jon committed the biggest crime against a controller, he got out and she can no longer control him in a way she could when they were married.
All her digs at him and her games with custody are her way of still trying to control him.
Admin: Another site is reporting that the ratings were just 1.3 million. For a "season premiere" and all the publicity she did on national television I think her goose is cooked. Can we only hope?
now the sheeple are trying to say that Jon deleted a bunch of tweets so that is probably going to make it hard to find the "lie" ¢$$$$$$$¢$$$$$$$!$$$! Egg, meet face. They messed up and won't admit it.
Maggie, google the word proxy. You will be able to find several proxy sites that are self explanatory once you open them. You may need to try more than one. You will be able to read but not post. Trust me one visit will be enough.
For the record, I haven't watched in years and certainly not last night.
"thanking" her for their vacations ----------- I wonder that maybe she used some harsh discipline on the kids--enough that they know they better bow to the great Kate and say thank you--under penalty of severeness!!
I was always amazed back in the old house(s?) when the kids had to sit in time out. They just went, like they were afraid of what would happen if they didn't. (Something Kate would not allow to be filmed?) I was surprised that they weren't throwing more of a fit about it at such a young age. Even my quietest child would do it during her preschool years when she was becoming more independent.
Those kids have no reason to thank Kate for their "vacations!" First of all, they aren't even vacations, and second of all, Kate isn't paying for them. It is their JOB!
I doubt they thank her for them anyway... Kate just wants the world to think her children are grateful to her for selling their childhoods.
This is horrible for a season premiere. Usually the numbers always go down. NOW, it WOULD be a lot less if people who claim to dislike her, WOULD STOP WATCHING. It is just ridiculous they just can't help themselves and watch it. Then come here and other sites, and P&M about Kate. Sorry, I just don't get why this happens. I really don't.
Admin: Another site is reporting that the ratings were just 1.3 million. For a "season premiere" and all the publicity she did on national television I think her goose is cooked. Can we only hope?
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If those are the ratings for a premiere show that was advertised over and beyond the call of duty, with all of the publicity and photos, what will an episode on grocery shopping and food bank bring? Hopefully, not a heck of a lot. I can't believe that ANYTHING would improve those ratings, except maybe a bar scene with men falling all over her!
I did not watch last night either, and am so proud of the bloggers here that they "stuck to their guns." Had a wonderful evening watching "Gone With the Wind" without commercial interruption.
Are you saying that the "pro" fansite is blocking me on purpose? I never heard of that. I tried the proxy but I was totally confused. How is everyone visiting her site when she blocks all the haters? (I take that to be us, LOL). Any more suggestions on how to visit her site? Thanks.
I did not watch (actually TLC is banned off our fios) I had a wonderful night in bed sound asleep.
Also I agree with the "rhymes with dwop" critics. From what I checked out they all watched it. I never liked that website. That's why I quit visiting there over a year ago.
Hi Admin. and regular bloggers. I just wanted to say that I love your blog and I read it every day. Once in a while I will post under the name of Chewey.
I am a social worker in Juvenile Court and an advocate for children. I watched Jon and Kate Plus 8 for several years until Kate turned into a monster. Kate's denial about her abusive ways is very classic. I just wish there was more I could do to advocate for the Gosselin children. But until the children are off the air waves, I will get updated from your blog. And I will never, ever, watch her show and boost her ratings by "1".
There are numerous references and comments about the sheeple and their website. I tried to go to: gosselinfamilyfansite but after a second or two it directs me to a mental health website. No kidding! Can someone help me visit this website that everyone is always talking about. Thanks.
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Say what? Has this happened to anyone else. I went over there and wasn't directed anywhere.
Are you saying someone is watching every ISP that goes to her website and is redirecting "haterz?" How would they know who the haterz are..unless maybe your screen name is IHateKate??
People used to say they got viruses from that site, too, but I don't know of anyway to direct viruses to just certain people who click on her site.
Lynn said...Another site is reporting that the ratings were just 1.3 million. For a "season premiere" and all the publicity she did on national television I think her goose is cooked.
Troy Chula Vista said...1.3 million? After all the time gone and money spent and thats where they are? I bet TLC was hoping for more.. or maybe not, because they sure havent put a whole lot of marketing behind it. ----------
What publicity? LOL
Troy Chula Vista is right in that they haven't put a lot of marketing behind it compared to what they did with the initial premiere of Kate Plus 8. You would think this would be a big season premiere, kicking it off in Australia, so I'm actually stunned by the lack of publicity on TLC's part. Or has TLC become desensitized by all these Gosselin trips that it's just another Gosselin trip to them, no biggie? Unless they're trying to see how many average viewers will actually tune-in without all the media blitz like they have done in the past. Is 1.3 million viewers good enough for a full season?
Realistically, how can you top an Australia trip? Besides the actual trips, what will continue to make this Gosselin family appealing to viewers? This family has lost that special family dynamics, enjoying each other's company without having to do anything. Watching Jon tickling and playing with his kids on the couch...those were the cute "Aww..." moments that I enjoyed watching.
This just reminds me of the Roloffs and what happened after numerous trips and their European adventure. Oh yeah, they got cancelled.
Ingrid said...I was always amazed back in the old house(s?) when the kids had to sit in time out. They just went, like they were afraid of what would happen if they didn't. (Something Kate would not allow to be filmed? ==== I clearly recall seeing Kate with an empty plastic wrap cardboard roll when she was discipling the kids in the old house. Those aren't like the empty paper towel rolls either. They're very dense cardboard roll which is firm and smaller around. I'll try to find the video. She must have used it instead of her wooden spoon.
The reason I noticed it was because she was holding it when she was making one of the sextuplets go to the time out corner and then in the next camera angle it was gone. Someone (Jen?) must have made her put it away. I wondered where it had gone.
Is Kate WINNING? said... A few of the past shows and ratings:
September 6 1.389 million
September 13 1.415 million
September 20 1.605 million
November 7 1.331 million
November 28 1.302 million
Kate's holding her own. She's here to stay. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No, I don't think she's here to stay for much longer. Her ratings are not only stagnant, her demos which is what matters most to advertisers are horrible. Kate+8 is an obscenely expensive show to produce. On the other hand, "Pawn Stars" on the History Channel brings numbers like 5-6 million viewers 3 million in the desired 18-49 age demographic. Production on that show consists of filming in the shop and sometimes going to appraise at someone's home or to go to a repair shop. All in the Las Vegas area, all at a minimal cost.
I'm grasping at straws here, the only reason I can think of for TLC to keep Kate around even though her show is hemmoraging might be because TLC made millions and millions of dollars in the beginning of J&K+8 between J&K signing early contracts without representation and the astronomical DVD sales. I wouldn't put it past Kate to remind them of that. Often.
Admin, I would totally understand if you do not publish this post. I just really need to vent for a moment. There is a particular poster at another "Hater" blog (this person also has a "hater blog" but it's not very big and doesn't appear to get as many comments at this one and other blogs). Anyway, this person has on numerous occaisions she has taken swipes at this blog and some of the posters. She has also taken a few swipes at Admin and it's really gotten under my skin!
I'm sorry but we don't have to like each other but come on!! Enough already. Admin and the posters here have never made a comment about this individual. Admin has always tried to be fair and balanced on this blog and I take offense to what this person says about this blog and the people on it.
Maggie - here is one example. Open it and type in the url of site you want to visit. Try googling proxy servers or proxy sites, too. You should be able to open something that looks like this. There are many.
Why is it the the sheeple have no writing skills whatsoever - not even BASIC writing skills? This is a comment from Tucker's article:
"Kate is a good mom an she trys to do want she can do for the kids to mack the kids happy. the kids dad macks they happy"
"This just reminds me of the Roloffs and what happened after numerous trips and their European adventure. Oh yeah, they got cancelled."
I don't believe they got canceled, did they? Matt had enough business sense not to renew the contract.
"Also I agree with the "rhymes with dwop" critics. From what I checked out they all watched it. I never liked that website. That's why I quit visiting there over a year ago."
Agreed. Then they wonder why the number of posters is dropping dramatically. If you question why people are so adamant about the show ending, but at the same time are contributing to the ratings, you're told that you're welcome to go elsewhere. I'm finished visiting there. They can watch to their hearts' content.
FYI - Kate's (fake) blog on TLC. Old comments are gone. The only way to comment is if you have Facebook. No more anonymous posting to the comments. Talk about a scrub for an image change! ! No new blog entries though.
1. Sheeple 2. Jon 3. Family that only get to see the kids through the TV. 4. People that fell asleep before the show started and were technically not watching, because they slept through it. 5. Media for reviewing and ratings purposes. 6. Her few friends, if any watched. 7. Some of the kids friends, if the parents let them. 8. Cats and dogs who have their own TVs. 9. Sorry to say, but probably perverts. 10. Babymama and those she paid to watch by throwing a party promising food and beer.
With those ratings, the numbers will keep going down, she's toast.
Admin, I did not watch the show last night, but I would like to read a recap. Could you please write one for us? Please?? Thanks and thank you for giving us a place to express our opinions freely and honestly.
There are numerous references and comments about the sheeple and their website. I tried to go to: gosselinfamilyfansite but after a second or two it directs me to a mental health website. No kidding! Can someone help me visit this website that everyone is always talking about. Thanks.
******* Anyone who has made an anti-Kate statement at BM's blog is being redirected away from her blog and is unable to read unless coming in through a free proxy site.
Linda the Originator has pretty much taken over BM's blog and has a program that will redirect all of the captured IP addresses.
Yes I will recap this mess, it's just been a really crazy week, I've barely been home to sit down with it. I'm actually off tomorrow to help someone move but I'm hoping to recap it then. I haven't even watched it yet--I only want to watch it once so when I watch it, it's to recap it.
I watched Joy the second time around. It was just the same old same old. But you could tell there was no love lost between them. She showed the infamous I'm hungry clip from Alaska and Khate said she was glad she had a house with heat. She showed a clip from DWTS and she said yes I can't dance. Joy said why do they give Tony the ones that can't dance and Khate very generously said they had a lot of trust in him.
Joy brought up botox and Khate said what do you care and Joy said I don't care it is on the page then she tore the page up and shook Khate's hand and said to watch the show and that was it. I missed the first part about Jon. My question is why was she even there.
Yesterday was quite a learning experience for me. I brought over from a zealot site the story that Jon lied. I knew from reading at that site occasionally that they frequently gave a different interpretation to events than I did but I gave them the benefit of the doubt. Our predisposition does sometimes color how we see the world and I knew they were extremely pro-Kate, anti-Jon and rabidly anti-Ellen. I really thought they just saw things differently.
Yesterday, though, they used what I saw as misintrepretation of a ROL story to create a whole post saying Jon lied. When they were called on it they did not offer to show any evidence to back up their position. Instead they all agreed that they had seen a tweet from Jon that he has since erased. Oookay. Maybe. Why no one on this site saw that tweet but all on that site did makes it questionable but I always give the benefit of the doubt. (I also believed there was something to the story of Admin requesting money to help pay her debts--I read it so often and it was stated with such force that I just assumed it had some truth. Sorry Admin. My very bad) So, okay, Jon tweeted that he had had no word from his kids. Then he erased it right after all sheeple read it but just before any non-Kate lover could. Okay. I can't prove otherwise.
What I can prove though is the head Z'er posted that she came over here to read and saw Not One Comment addressing Jon's lies. Nothing. (She said this to prove our bias toward Jon and against Kate.) She then referenced a few of the other issues we were discussing here to offer us up for ridicule. But, really, not one comment addressing Jon Lies? This is blatant, this is egregious. This is a bald-faced lie.
No more benefit of the doubt from me. I thought they were better than thay have just proven themselves to be. I did not know they deliberately lied. Now I do. I leave them to lie to each other. I won't bother reading there any more.
Moose Mania said... Geez, Hippie. Can you say that in one breath? That's one LONG sentence. Now, tell us how you really feel!!
That IS how I feel, but not about anyone else. I'm really a laid back chick, man. I've said it before & I'll say it again, I have given this woman a hundred chances to redeem herself, NOT that it matters. I know I don't count, nor does anyone else in her pathetic life, even her family.
1.3 million viewers is pretty bad, guys. Especially for a season premiere. Especially for taking a HUGE chunk of money & going to AUS, & for taking huge risk like that on TLC's dime & putting all of their eggs in one basket. I'm sure they were looking for somewhere in the 5-6 million range. And did you notice ratings came out right away? Last year, it took a few days, this time it was the next day. No one cares anymore. Kate is done. All the reviews were negative. Kate is officially known as a BAD MOM. Great title Kate.
Regarding the ratings game. Could someone please explain exactly how this works. Over on another site (that rhymes with plop) a mod has commented that unless a viewer is being COUNTED, it doesn't matter whether or not we watch or talk about the show because it's not going to count in the ratings. This sounds to me like we all can watch and it's not going to affect the ratings one way or another. Is this correct?
I think Maggie has posted over there and got her IP banned as no one else is having any problems. LOL MS Donna is incapable of her own opinions, has to have someone else get one for her!
On my local radio station today, they were talking to Morgan Spurloch who is coming out w/ a movie about product placement in TV & movies, so I texted the staion & said, "That stupid Kate + 8 show with that stupid b*tch Kate did it all the time" & they said it! Morgan Spurloch said, "Oh, you mean that chick with the orphaned kids. Yeah, that was a big one, but we're dealing with REAL shows & movies here? And the host said, "When will she go away?" It was AWESOME! Anyways, thought I'd share. Making a sauce for lasagna! :)
"Is 1.3 million viewers good enough for a full season?"
1.3 million is considered pretty good for TLC, especially as it's a stable figure (it hasn't wavered significantly since the specials started last year). Anything over 1 million is good news by TLC's standards, actually. At the end of press releases when they're summing up the network's strengths, they make mention of shows averaging over 1 mill:
"TLC is a global brand that celebrates extraordinary people and relatable life moments through innovative nonfiction programming. A top 10 cable network for women, TLC has built successful franchises around the Cake Boss, Say Yes to the Dress and Police Women brands. In 2010, 31 series averaged 1.0 million viewers or more including Sister Wives, Kate Plus 8, 19 Kids and Counting, LA Ink, and What Not To Wear."
One other small point.. while admirable, not watching the show won't make a difference to its ratings unless your household has a Nielsen set meter. In other words, TLC can't tell if you're watching or not unless you have a Nielsen ratings device installed (and not many households do). To make any impact you'd need to befriend someone who does have a ratings device in their household and convince them not to watch, lol.
Of course that only applies if you're choosing not to watch purely with the aim of lowering ratings. If you're choosing not to watch for moral/ethical reasons then that's different, and admirable.
For anyone interested in going to fan sites they've been banned from even though they may have politely stated their opinion lol, use http://www.vtunnel.com/ it wil hide you're IP and yo can read those sites.But I wouldn't if I were you :D
wow said... I think Maggie has posted over there and got her IP banned as no one else is having any problems. LOL MS Donna is incapable of her own opinions, has to have someone else get one for her! =================== LOL yourself wow. Maybe MS Donna is discriminating enough not to put herself through the agony of watching that drivel. Some of us read Admin's recaps because they are a hell of a lot more entertaining than the crap TLC puts out. Some of us are just smart that way. Think we already have a pretty good idea of our opinions.
The Ratings Game said... Regarding the ratings game. Could someone please explain exactly how this works. Over on another site (that rhymes with plop) a mod has commented that unless a viewer is being COUNTED, it doesn't matter whether or not we watch or talk about the show because it's not going to count in the ratings. This sounds to me like we all can watch and it's not going to affect the ratings one way or another. Is this correct?
---------------------- NOT TRUE. Every viewer counts now. Someone explained before about the digital boxes & such. If someone would kindly step in & take over & explain again, it would be much appreciated.
TINIC, see, they LIE! They outright lied about us not discussing Jon's "lie." We discussed it all day yesterday right here, just read the comments! We searched high and low for proof. I don't get it. Why lie that it is sunny when it's raining out?
And now you know they libeled me, continue to libel me, and continue to state the lie over and over that I begged for money. I never, ever asked anyone for any money, period. It is another one of their lies to make us look bad. They claim we are jealous of Kate, they need to ask themselves, if they are this obsessed with the posters here such that they need to make up lies about us, who is really jealous?
Admin: They lie. Period. I felt so bad that I accepted, without question, them saying you did ask for money. But if cynical me accepted it how many others did, too. I did just give them a lot more credit than they should have been given. I apologize to you for my gullibility. How very pathetic that they must resort to outright lies. Somehow seems to sully the whole playing field, doesn't it.
TINIC and Admin, Maybe that blog owner didn't find the Jon "lying" comments here because she's not used to having to read over 30 comments.
NOW they are saying that radaronline changed their story and reworded the article to cover up for Jon lying!!!
She even referenced the post she did that day and no where in what she posted as part of the article did it say anything about Jon claiming he didn't get a phone call from them. No where is there a copy of his "tweet."
They all stated what their interpretation of the article meant and now they are stating their interpretations as fact. It's how they operate.
Let's say just for arguments sake that Radaronline DID change their story. Wouldn't that tell the sheeple that maybe it was wrong? That maybe Jon NEVER claimed that he never got to speak to the children? Maybe the "source" called ROL and told them it was not correct, and that the kids did in fact speak to Jon. Where is the proof that JON LIED?
Sheesh, reading comprehension 1.0. What the article SAID and what it always said was that Jon missed his kids, but that fortuantly Jon was able to call the kids. It went on to say that Jon was worried about the flooding in Australia (as any decent father would be) but that he was reassured by, wouldn't you know it, PHONE CALLS FROM THE KIDS. End of story. How one could possibly deduce that Jon said he did not call his kids out of that, well, I feel bad for their English teachers.
TINC, apology accepted of course! If anything this is a great day for me, they lost credibility and I can now prove that they lie. And it logically follows if they lied twice about that, they have lied about other things, including my begging. If we want to get down to it they lied about a bunch of other stuff, but that I don't care about. Just the begging. I got some quite hateful comments about that when that lie came out, claiming that I used this site as a ruse to beg for money (conspiracy theory much?). I think those who have been here since the beginning or even awhile know now that after running this site since September 2009, you can rest assured there is no "ruse" here. It is what it is. At the time all I could say to those comments was it was not true, they are making up a lie, moreover they have no proof, please believe me. Now today I can proudly say, see? They lied.
Cable shows don't garner the big ratings numbers that the major network shows get. Rarely would a cable show get numbers in the 5-6 million range although WWE Raw on USA got 5 mil. A million viewers or even a bit less will keep a show on cable TV.
According to Bill Gorman of TV by the numbers:
--->Bill Gorman Posted April 5, 2011 at 4:07 PM
@Dan,
We don’t have complete demo ratings for last week’s cable shows, but Kate Plus 8 would have been the #5 show for viewership on TLC for the week.
Of course she’s no longer the subject of constant tabloid attention, but if she hangs on to those numbers, TLC is keeping her.
As you said, assume for argument's sake they did change the story. I also can see a scenerio where perhaps Jon expressed to a friend his fears that maybe Kate wouldn't let the kids call him. This friend runs to Radaronline and tells them this. It somehow gets twisted around to, the kids didn't call him, which is not accurate. Just shows how easy it is for things to get twisted around.
Oh God, I just had a horrifying thought. What if the ratings are so bad that K+8 gets cancelled but TLC decides to do a show about Kate dating, Kate getting remarried (and the wedding prep), then the first year or so of the marriage with Kate, the kids and their new step-daddy? Kind of like what VH1 did with Christopher Knight and Adrian Curry.
In the same breath they say ROL changed the story and how low is that, blah blah, then they basically prasie ROL for the story on Joy's interview with Kate. Confused much?
I think the owner of the Z blog is very disturbed! When do websites change past stories and what was reported? Even the "links" she mentions don't say a WORD about Jon saying they didnt call him. She is NUTS!! Her followers must be so proud.
HippieChick said...NOT TRUE. Every viewer counts now. Someone explained before about the digital boxes & such. If someone would kindly step in & take over & explain again, it would be much appreciated.
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I'd like to see some links on that. I’ve seen it stated before that digital TV boxes also count in the ratings but I’ve never found a link to prove that or explain how the info collected on digital TV boxes gets that information out to be counted in ratings.
Here's some info on ratings:
Television networks clearly want to know what people are watching. A larger audience watching a show translates to being able to charge more money for ad time during a show. Television networks that broadcast shows watched by a huge number of people, such as the Oscars or the Super Bowl, generally profit from getting the highest dollar amount for advertisements aired during their shows. For weekly programs, however, television networks rely on a small sample of the population to determine what shows are the most popular.
In the US and in Canada, the company that tracks what viewers are watching for television networks is the Nielsen Company. They choose a representative sampling of about 5000 viewers who will allow Nielsen to record what programs they watch. This is a fairly small sampling of the US population, but people are chosen based on their ability to represent varied populations. For example Nielsen must a diverse sampling of viewers and some viewers who fall into differing age groups in order to get a representative sample.
Ha Ha. I was able to get one email in yesterday telling the Z she was full of sheet.. to post some proof of HER lies about Jon, thats about the time she posted she didnt have time to go back and find them (and the tweets were deleted). Of course today ROL changed the story. Thats it, do what little kids do when they get caught in lies, make up more lies.
My email was blocked when I attemtped a second email to that nut. Too bad there wasnt a Blog Police that rates Blogs on the lies and truthes they spew.
There's nothing wrong with saying I remembered that incorrectly, I'm sorry. I don't get the more lies to try to fix the lie.
Heck I've made mistakes here, other people have, it happens. You fix it and you move on. I don't expect anyone to remember every last little thing correctly about this saga, that would be a bit scary if you could. If you make a mistake, there are many people who can correct you, and they do. And you can also fact check. It's not a big deal to say oops, I messed that up. Be an adult. But now that a lie has been mitigated with more lies, it's beyond repair.
I have only posted once or twice but I tried to go over to the "other" site and was redirected to a mental health site as well. Believe me, I Have NEVER tried to send that site a comment. I also think the numbers for the premier weren't that great. Maybe TLC is just trying to run out her contract until 2012. One could only hope
Even IF Jon did tweet that he didn't get a call from the kids and was worried (which from what I recall he never did PLUS no such tweet exists nor is there a screenshot of one) how does anyone know WHEN he tweeted that? Maybe he had heard from them ONCE and was worried again once he heard of the problems in Australia and NZ. Maybe he expected to hear from them every other day and they missed some calls. Jon's haters CLAIMING he tweeted that he hadn't heard from them and was worried does not cover all the scenarios possible.
From what I have seen at that fan blog they are all relying on false memories. They have not provided anything substantial other than one blogger stating something and the rest of them taking it as fact and repeating it.
I did not know they deliberately lied. Now I do. ==== It's not surprising. They have a role model who continually lies and (seemingly) gets away with it so they think it's alright for them to lie. That's the mindset of Kate's followers.
On another subject, I just watched a short clip of KG over at Behar's site. Joy asked her why so many people have already turned on her on twitter and Kate said she just can't figure it out. Then to deflect she said something totally unrelated about single moms. It made no sense at all. Flatline interview.
Then to deflect she said something totally unrelated about single moms. It made no sense at all. Flatline interview.
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Kate's been flatlining for some time. She just can't seem to get those brain waves up and running.
If it's not too much of a hassle, could someone please give me a nickel worth synopsis of this Z/ROL/lies/Jon and kids thing that's being discussed. I missed something along the way and I hate being out of the loop! Thanks!
Regarding the ratings game. Could someone please explain exactly how this works. Over on another site (that rhymes with plop) a mod has commented that unless a viewer is being COUNTED, it doesn't matter whether or not we watch or talk about the show because it's not going to count in the ratings. This sounds to me like we all can watch and it's not going to affect the ratings one way or another. Is this correct?
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I read that, too, about six times. The bottom line, if the article there is correct, is this - whether a show is being hyped on talk shows, (The View, Entertainment Tonight, etc.) or in People Magazine et al., that hype has absolutely no effect unless you are one of the ones being counted by Nielson.
So why hype show(s) at all then if you’re aiming only at the 25,000 Nielson watchers? It really makes no sense to me. However, if Nielson is the only company collecting viewing information, then blog away, read the tabloids and post the links, watch the talk shows, watch or don’t watch Kate. It makes no difference. She has a solid 1.3 million viewers, fans, haters, who knows? Any kind of promotion isn’t helping or hurting
Maggie, regarding the fan site - I'm also banned but can get in by copy/pasting this:
http://bit.ly/epmrLu #kateGosselin
Give it a try. It will open to a March 1st post but scroll down to the bottom and click on "Newer Post" Keep doing that until it brings you up to the newest post.
Want to see your comment published? Follow a few simple rules:
1. Do not use Anonymous. Pick a name (click Name/URL to type in a name) and stick to the same name. 2. Anonymous insider stories should be emailed to us directly (in confidence). They will not be posted here unless we can verify the validity, such as with photos. This is not to discourage legitimate insiders from speaking out, but to guard against all the fake stories out there. 3. No insulting other posters or picking fights, refusing to let things go and move on. Stop with the snotty comments--they will be rejected. Treat people here like how you would talk to the person you most respect in your life, it's just pleasant that way. 4. No trash talking other blogs/bloggers here.
435 sediments (sic) from readers:
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Troy Chula Vista said...
The people that support Kate are just as blind as the people who support Britney Spears. Some press reports state that Britney is on "top of her game" again.
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? She doesnt sing live! Thats why ABC taped her GMA appearance on Sunday, in case she flopped or didnt show up they could get the egg off of their face. Now I know Chris Brown lip synched on DWTS, but at lease he can dance!
Hey I am a Britney Spears fan and I take offense to that. I don’t see why you need to bash Britney she is not hurting anyone. You don’t have to watch her on TV if you don’t want to. Kate on the other hand I understand the bashing completely and I think she deserves all the crap she gets for what’s she is doing to her children.
Hey I am a Britney Spears fan and I take offense to that. I don’t see why you need to bash Britney she is not hurting anyone.
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My bad. Sorry. I just don't get why you would pay good money to see someone who doesnt sing live and can barely move now in her dance steps. It seems like she is providing an act that has lost it's appeal or at least the polished act it once was.
Troy Chula Vista said...
OK, Some of my tweets did get through..so they are not scrubbing them all. A sheeple can't for her cook book to come out... ha ha ha ha ha
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If you go to Twazzup ( a kind of Twitter search engine ) you can see the tweets. Use kateplusmy8 as the search term:
http://www.twazzup.com/?q=kateplusmy8&l=all
I doubt she's tweeting herself. Jamie or someone from TLC will be doing it - TLC won't let her loose on Twitter.
Twitter: paige_Kate8lvr Paige Campbell
Haha kate I want to know how things worked out with u and mr. Speedo LOL yeaaaaa #akward lol LOVE you!! Plz follow me:)
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I came across this sheeple on another site. Talk about being obsessed! Oy. These are this person's likes:
"Kate Gosselin, Kate Gosselin, kate gosselin, Cara Gosselin, Katie Gosselin, Leah Hope Gosselin, Alexis Faith Gosselin, I love Cara,Mady,Leah,Hannah,Alexis,Joel,Aaden,And Collin gosselin, I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life...abbie is a big fan of kate gosselin and her kids, Charlie Sheen, Kate Gosselin Fan Page, Kate Gosselin Fan Page...Gosselin Diary, TLC, Madelyn Gosselin..."
You know, this would scare me - really scare me.
janon19 Janon Kohnhorst
can't wait. Have been missing the show. Any date for cookbook release yet?
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That's not the only thing this person has been missing. News flash - the cookbook never is going to see the light of day, and the publisher has confirmed it!
In the article she confirms she's been out on a few little dates but she already has 8 kids and doesn't need 9. Wow, why aren't the guys lining up to go out with her with that kind of attitude?
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Do you think that any guy who wants to date her must fill out an application and have it approved by TLC, release financial records, and agree to a credit check? TLC owns her, and I would think that any possible suitor would have to meet their qualifications as well.
There is really no need to compare her to anyone else. She is in a class ALL by herself.
Kate tweeted her first tweet about the kids, she says she's driving home from NY to go see them. So I get it, Jon is not allowed to tweet about the kids, where the kids are, what he is doing, and so on--but Kate is??? DOUBLE STANDARD MUCH???
Just as a side note, I don't believe for one second Kate is driving. She says she can't tweet because she's on the road. Um, Kate, you can tweet if your chauffeur has the wheel!
Just looked at Kates Twitters. I am not Twitter savvy and am wondering what the difference is when she tweets Via Mobile Web vs Via Twitterific. What would be the difference?
TLC owns her, and I would think that any possible suitor would have to meet their qualifications as well.
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Moose, TLC DateKate Application:
"Please answer the following questions with a yes or no:
1. Are you desperate or just plain stupid? ___
2. Do you realize what you're getting into? ___
3. Have you been living under a rock for the last five years?___
4. Do you need your head examined or are you a certified idiot?___
5.You're sure you want to do this?___
Catching up on Apprentice while I try to muster up the strength to watch Kate Plus 8. As task manager Marlee Matlin raised the most money in the history of Apprentice on one task, and in fact, the most money for a whole SEASON. She raised $986,000--almost a million bucks, at an art show! She was getting $99,000 a piece for paintings for charity. That woman is incredible. Trump gave her $14,000 to make it an even million. I got a kick out of the show blurring out her sign language when she was swearing in sign, lol!
As has been said before, the genius of Apprentice is finding out a celeb's true colors. And I'm liking Marlee's. I can't wait until next week when they show her giving the check to her charity.
1. Are you desperate or just plain stupid? ___
2. Do you realize what you're getting into? ___
3. Have you been living under a rock for the last five years?___
4. Do you need your head examined or are you a certified idiot?___
5.You're sure you want to do this?___
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LOL, Auntie! Don't forget #6. Do you own a Speedo? Kate tried so hard not to be obvious that she was checking out the guy's smashed banana, but we all knew what she was doing!
"Just as a side note, I don't believe for one second Kate is driving."
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I remember during one of the early shows, she said that she doesn't like to drive on the highway. I thought -- where does she drive? In parking lots only? If she doesn't like to drive on the highway, then she sure as shootin' isn't driving home from New York over the Tappan Zee or down the NJ Turnpike (depending where she was in New York!)!
Kate did not account for the fact that I have a photographic memory. Here she is just this past August with Steve-o, wouldn't you know it, taking a limo to NYC and stopping for coffee!
http://www.realitytvkids.com/2010/08/kate-and-steve-take-coffee-break-on-way.html
What is TLC cutting back and making her drive herself to NYC? Yeah right.
Administrator said...
Catching up on Apprentice while I try to muster up the strength to watch Kate Plus 8.
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So, how did it go, Admin? Did you throw anything at the television? How can you watch that? - Kate, not the Apprentice! Does a glass (or two or three) of Chardonnay ease the pain?
I watched DWTS. Maks fell, and he fell hard. He winced in pain, and made a mad dash after the scoring to get some ice. Poor guy. He was really hurting.
http://xfinitytv.comcast.net/blogs/2011/tv-news/dancers-down-maks-drops-kirstie-alley-on-dwts/
Admin, thanks for watching the Kreider travelogue and posting about it. Sounds boring. As her Today interviews and other same old same old interviews. Discovery could save a lot of money by just rerunning the prior interviews.
I watched the NCAA basketball championship game. even tho' my beloved VCU Rams got defeated by Butler on Sat, UConn beat Butler, naanaabooboo!
It would have been a better game if VCU has met UConn. But Coach Shaka Smart just signed an 8 year extention and the Rams will be back!
Kate was a no show on Behar. Wonder what happened. Maybe Joy actually tried to ask Kate real questions and she ran away screaming.
Kate didn't show on JOY? I tivoed it but haven't watched yet. Now that is BIZARRE given she tweeted just this morning she was taping it.
Maybe they realized how idiotic it was to have Kate on to compete with her OWN SHOW in the same time slot. LOL. Or as someone else suggested, Kate ran crying when Joy actually asked her a few twitter questions proposed.
I find it incredibly consistent that Kate isn't following one darn person on Twitter except twitterific, which is not a person but just an app to post tweets. Why would a narcissist give two hoots what someone else has to say???
Half the point of twitter is following other people, lol. But it's just a one-way street when you're dealing with a narcissist.
I just checked out the FB page for Joy's show. I think there was 3 comments out of 104 that were kind to kate, the rest were less than happy she was going to be on.
There was no mention why, but there was 1 simple question I thought was pretty good: "Ask Kate why in her mind, she and Jon broke up"
That should be a spin free answer she gives. I wonder if Joy will say anything on The View?
Joy Behar's website says:
•4/5: Kate Gosselin, Sherri Shepherd
Now THAT is an interesting pairing!
Do you think Kate or TLC has her dates sign confidentiality contracts?
I didn't watch tonight. I went to bingo and donated money to the casino. LOL
I would be shocked if any "date" didn't sign a confidentiality agreement.
Kate? Maybe your sad love life is because of you and your stupid celebrity lifestyle. It's not exactly romantic to be all like hey baby you're looking fine, by the way just sign here!
OMG! Sherri is so clueless and just spews stuff she knows nothing about. She is Kates biggest supporter on how Kate conceived (she keeps saying Kate split the eggs) and Kate has to work to support her kids, and why not? I dont mean to open a whole discussion about IVF, IMF or whatever it's called (no disrespect meant to people who administer these or have had them done). It'll be a LOVE FEST! gag!
Administrator said...
I find it incredibly consistent that Kate isn't following one darn person on Twitter except twitterific, which is not a person but just an app to post tweets. Why would a narcissist give two hoots what someone else has to say???
Half the point of twitter is following other people, lol. But it's just a one-way street when you're dealing with a narcissist.
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Since the new Twitter account is most likely going to be managed by TLC for PR purposes only there's no need to follow anyone or have a relationship with someone since they're not interested in communicating anything but drivel to keep her in the media. Kate isn't being followed by the paps, is rarely mentioned on ROL or INF, so they're using Twitter now to try to keep her name alive.
Why don't they just rename the show Kate loves Kate. Watch Kate drag her 8 kids on all-expense paid trips that SHE has wanted to go on with her all-expense paid boyfriend, er bodyguard. Poor sucker is probably paid to" relieve her pent up tension" too. Yuck.
I came across this sheeple on another site. Talk about being obsessed! Oy. These are this person's likes:
"Kate Gosselin, Kate Gosselin, kate gosselin, Cara Gosselin, Katie Gosselin, Leah Hope Gosselin, Alexis Faith Gosselin, I love Cara,Mady,Leah,Hannah,Alexis,Joel,Aaden,And Collin gosselin, I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life...abbie is a big fan of kate gosselin and her kids, Charlie Sheen, Kate Gosselin Fan Page, Kate Gosselin Fan Page...Gosselin Diary, TLC, Madelyn Gosselin..."
You know, this would scare me - really scare me.
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That's a typical Kate fan for you. She's 16 years old and from Canada. I agree, it is scary.
There was no mention why, but there was 1 simple question I thought was pretty good: "Ask Kate why in her mind, she and Jon broke up
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That's kind of a no-brainer, isn't it? She already answered that in the Morales interview. It was because they had different "goals." She didn't say what the goals were, but I guess we now know that she wanted to keep exploiting the kids and he didn't.
Of course, with as many stories as she weaves, she's never going to remember what she said to Morales.
Linda in Central PA said...
Joy Behar's website says:
•4/5: Kate Gosselin, Sherri Shepherd
Now THAT is an interesting pairing!
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Well, that's definitely a programming change. Last Friday and all weekend, Joy's site had Khate's pic (an old one with the short hair) at the top of the right sidebar. It said today’s show (Monday 4/4) was going to have Khate and Star Jones on. Then, when I checked it this morning, they changed that pic to one of Star Jones but it still listed Khate on Monday's show.
Khate probably taped it today and they'll run it tomorrow. Maybe the Star interview went too long? I posted here the other day that it was kind of dumb to have Khate on Joy’s show at 10pm on Monday to promote her new episodes because that’s the same time her show was to be on TLC. It would make more sense to promote it at least a day sooner than the night it’s on.
So, now it’s even funnier, lol. She’ll be on Joy’s show TOMORROW to promote a show from the night before. What geniuses at TLC. (Yeah, I realize her dumb show is on again next week, but I’m sure they would have liked more publicity in the few days or week before the new season began). Plus, I’m sure it wasn’t TLC’s call, but a call by Joy’s producers to change the schedule around. It just shows how TLC and Khate don’t have the pull that they might have had before. I bet Khate was pissed when they bumped her to tomorrow. Oh, better yet, I hope they taped it this afternoon but didn’t tell her or TLC that it was being bumped from tonight’s show until later on. Ha ha ha....they probably had such a good interview with Star that they needed more time and felt like they could just bump Khate. LMAO.
I don't think Joy B. has much use for Sherri S.
However, in order to keep peace within the View family, she has probably been asked to welcome
Sherri warmly and not argue with her. She treated Star Jones quite cordially. There was hardly anything to pass on to the gossipmongers.
I think Kate G. is going to get an easy ride on Joy's show and then Joy will bring it up on The View and give a more honest opinion.
Troy Chula Vista said...
Thanks! Now I figured it out. Question, so the only tweets anyone will see are "non blocked" sheeple tweets and the occasional "hater" that isnt blocked? So she has 1700 + followers, but there are only a handful of comments on each tweet. Am I seeing that correct or is there a "next/more" button I am missing?
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Troy, On Kate's page you see whatever hasn't been deleted. If you want to see every tweet that mentions Kate Gosselin or Kateplusmy8 just enter those words in the search box at the top of the twitter page. (when you do a search you'll see everything that mentions those words -- including from people who have been blocked, but the funny thing is that although someone is sending you nasty comments, YOU never see them if you've blocked them; so all their hard work to insult or upset you is worthless - however, people that are following the sender of the comment can see what's been sent) Search for any name, place etc and everything tweeted that matches will come up. The only way to really understand Twitter is to spend time clicking on everything and reading and trying to follow conversations. Believe it or not, it's actually better than it used to be.
I read that Kate got bumped for Star Jones.
LOLOL
Well, according to Joy Behar's tweets, it looks like as of around 4:30 pm EST today, Khate was still scheduled to be on tonight's show (Monday 4/4). So, Khate's interview did get bumped at the last minute, (she probably pre-taped it today, though):
@JoyVBehar
# Please welcome @kateplusmy8 to twitter. And just in time for her appearance on my @hlntv show 2nite. #KateGosselin
about 9 hours ago via Seesmic Web
# Got a question or two (or eight) for Kate Gosselin? She’s on my @hlntv show 2nite. Thanks!
about 11 hours ago via Seesmic Web
cherier1 said...
I read that Kate got bumped for Star Jones.
LOLOL
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es, Star tweeted something about she and Joy had "three" to talk about (whatever that means - maybe 3 segments on the show? IDK). I guess they had to move Kate and Sherri to tomorrow IF nothing else more important comes up. HA
IF Kate got bumped for Star Jones, it may have been at Star's request. She's quite a diva herself, and she would no more want to share the interview time with Kate than Kate would want to share it with her. Either one of them can throw a really messy fit if provoked by not being top diva.
I just don't have the strength to tackle this episode tonight, I'll recap it later.
I saw just a moment of the rerun and it was a part where they went camping. Listening to Kate explain why this camping was successful as compared to Alaska....the right conditions, the ability to look at the stars....was a hoot. No, Kate, camping 2.0 was successful because it was all about you as it should be, and not about somebody more famous and important like Sarah Palin.
So laughable that Kate gets bumped to after her show airs. Will she say tune into Kate Plus 8 tonight, and have some cheap actor dub over her voice "yesterday"?
I'm guessing the TLC interns realized at the very last second they double booked Kate to compete against her own show. Hahaha....oops!
There was some last minute scrambling to try to get her squeezed in somewhere tomorrow.
But won't Joy be wearing the same clothes as "yesterday" when she interviews Kate "tomorrow"? How's that gonna work?
I just read a HYSTERICAL comment on Ken Tucker's TV
http://watching-tv.ew.com/2011/04/04/kate-plus-8-australia-review-brilliant/#comment-218780
Still hoping to hear, “A dingo ate my Mommy” during the Australian trip.
Access Hollywood Transcript April 4, 2011. --
Kate Gosselin may have settled into her life as a single mom, but the “Kate Plus 8” star said she hasn’t quite figured out how to date again.
“It’s just strange,” Kate told Access Hollywood in New York on Monday morning. “After this many years, to just be back out there in the world? If somebody arises, that’d be great. If not, it is what it is.”
The reality TV matriarch, whose show returns to TLC for a new season on Monday night, said that part of the problem with dating is her lack of time, while the other is – with eight children at home to plan for — having a clear enough head to tune into the other person.
“It’s hard to find the time, it’s hard to go on a date, and hear somebody, blah, blah, blah-ing and you’re thinking, ‘I don’t care, I don’t care! What am I making for dinner tomorrow night?’’” Kate said.
While she has a sparse dating schedule, Kate is still in contact with her ex-husband, of course – Jon Gosselin — and she told Access the two are communicating better following their bitter 2009 divorce.
“He’s working now so he has something to focus on that’s more constructive,” Kate said. “He sees the kids.
“I have remained the same throughout,” Kate continued of her behavior toward Jon. “I want it to be peaceful, but I can only control my side of it, so I just deal with whatever he hands me and try to be positive. Generally speaking, [it] depends on the day.
“I guess it’s a lot about my attitude and this is what I have to deal with for the rest of my life, so might as well make the best of it,” she added.
As for the former couple’s children, Kate told Access the Gosselin youngsters – Maddie and Kara (the twins, born in 2000), and sextuplets Joel, Aaden, Colin, Alexis, Hannah and Leah (born in 2004), are enjoying their escapades that involve the cameras.
“The kids love it and every weekend that they’re home we have something planned. Every vacation, they look forward to it, and we still love it,” she said. “I certainly would not be needing to coerce them into this. If they didn’t love it, we wouldn’t do it any more, but they’re loving it, we’re having the most amazing experiences.”
One of those experiences – featured on Monday night’s episode – sees the Gosselin matriarch and her brood heading Down Under.
“A complete dream come true,” Kate said. “To fly that far away and live that dream was just amazing. We still talk about it every day.”
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What a horrible self-absorbed person. Admitting that her mind goes to cooking dinner while a man is talking (blah,blah, blahing) to her and she is thinking to herself, "I don't care, I don't care". Wow, she never fails to spew hatred and pure unlikeableness. Any man that may have had an interest in dating her would certainly be turned off by that very telling comment.
And she says EVERY weekend that the kids are with her they are filming. Oh, and they love love, love it. The comment about her NOT needing to "coerce" the kids into filming is very interesting and telling. These are HER dreams not her children's dreams.
The only true thing Kate said was she "remained the same throughout in dealing with Jon". I believe that. I believe she is the same old bitchy, controlling, screaming witch she always was to Jon. And again, she throws Jon under bus in this interview, Today's interview, E's interview, and I bet she will do it again on Joy's show.
http://watching-tv.ew.com/2011/04/04/kate-plus-8-australia-review-brilliant/
The reviews start rolling in. EW is even considering not even bothering to review the rest of the season. The comments, as usual, are also overwhelmingly anti-Kate. Didn't watch, anxiously awaiting admin's recap.
The only way to really understand Twitter is to spend time clicking on everything and reading and trying to follow conversations. Believe it or not, it's actually better than it used to be.
Here's my question, and it's not an insult to Twitter lovers everywhere: why would anyone want to go through this? Why would anyone want to go through the trouble of seeing what was deleted and "follow" the lives of strangers? Why would anyone be interested that anyone bought six bags of groceries on a given day, rather than the usual two bags, or went through a car wash?
Why would anyone want to "follow" Kate Gosselin around? Isn't that just as obsessive as sheeple setting up shrines, YouTube videos and love, love, love fan pages to her?
Reading around at a couple of sites this morning I picked up:
Kate screams a lot.
The kids melt down a lot.
There is some less than favorable footage shown.
Jon is a liar.
Kate gently tosses both Sarah Palin and Jon under a bus or two.
That's plenty for me. So very glad I took a pass.
As for her twitter, you can make up fake names, use your real ones, whatever, as soon as you start saying negative ones, she'll block you. She will set it to private as soon as the dumb one realizes that the whole wide world can view her tweets, unless that's what she wants. Jon's tweets can only be viewed by his friends. So can mine actually because everytime I tweeted Jon, all these nasty sheeple would tweet me this nasty crap. So when Kate wises up & sees that she's only really gonna get mean & hateful tweets, she'll set her twitter to private. She can still get friend requested, so you can sneak in that way, but one negative comment, & your blocked. Just letting you all know.
I hope her show tanked. I didn't watch. Caught up on some DVR'd Buffy's last night!
E-Town Neighbor said...
Hippie! I was thinking about you when I was reading the evening newspaper. The 70s look is back for spring -- anything 70s. Maxi dresses, and below-the-knee loose skirts, with flat, strappy sandals. Maybe someone needs to see that Kate gets the memo!
I saw that in my all my fashion mags! I've been doing that for years! If Kate starts dressing that way, just so we clear this up, I was doing it FIRST!! :)) She couldn't pull it off anyways...she in no way has that vibe...
ADMINISTRATOR, SINCE YOU WATCH THE KATE PLUS 8 TRAIN WRECK EPISODES AND THEN RECAP THEM, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE IT ***USEFUL*** FOR US AND GIVE US A ***LIST*** OF ALL THE COMPANIES WHO ADVERTISED ON THE KATEPLUS8 AUSTRALIA EXTRAVAGANZA GLUTTONFEST. THE ADVERTISERS, PLEASE. GIVE US A LIST OF THE ADVERTISERS SO WE CAN ***BOYCOTT*** ALL THOSE BASTARDS FOR SPONSORING THIS GOD-FORSAKEN WITCH.
Just a tiny bit Board on Board. Did Jon really say somewhere that the kids had not been in touch with him during the whole Australia trip except for the one phone call that somehow made ROL? I remember the phone call, I remember how justified I felt his concerns were with the floods and fires happening near where the kids were staying, but I don't remember anywhere that he said this was the first call from them. There is a whole post out there about how Jon is a liar, Jon is a (in bold face large font) "straight out, bold faced, deliberte" (sic) liar because it was FILMED that the kids called when they first got there. If someone does have a reference that Jon said what the sheeple imagined he said (that the kids never called until the last week) then I defer to the greater wisdom of the zealous fan(atic)s. But until I see a link I will just assume this zealot got it wrong, again.
Hoping this is the beginning of the end for Kate plus 8. Every article I have seen about her or the show has nothing but negativity after negativity. I am starting to think the few fans left are paid by TLC to be her fans. She is truly depised by millions. When she comes down, it will be a hard fall.
They say Jon lied???
Excuse me but the TABLOID article we have, which is based on an ANONYMOUS source, says that Kate actually did allow the kids to keep in touch with Jon the whole trip, especially since he was worried about the floods. I remember at the time we were saying how generous of Kate to let Jon talk to his own kids.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/01/kate-gosselin-kept-touch-with-worried-ex-husband-jon-during-trip-down-under
Notwithstanding it's just a tabloid rag article, it does indeed confirm that Kate DID let him talk to the kids, as seen on the show. So sorry, not sure where the "lying" comes in. Jon didn't say anything public about this that I'm aware of, unless I'm missing something. He hasn't made a public statement about Kate in a long time. This article from back in January is consistent with what we saw on the show. Jon was worried, and Kate let the kids call him.
Is there some tweet he wrote about this around the time it happened? I don't follow Jon. If he said they didn't call then yes, he lied. The tabloid articles said all along he was talking to the kids.
Oh my how far we've come Kate. I recall an episode where you were standing in your driveway (where else) screaming like a raging loon to Jon to "stay with your children!" as he's ROLLERBLADING RIGHT BESIDE Cara and Mady; they were biking. Even the ever present cameraman was with them. From what I recall, it seemed to me you lived in a pretty "safe" neighbourhood. I guess if JON is the parent on duty, then NOTHING IS SAFE for them to do. But low and behold, you allow your daughter to participate in a very "THRILL SEEKING" activity, such as the bungee jumping (whatever the actual thing is called). You, my friend, are NUTS!
Kate's fans said.....That's a typical Kate fan for you. She's 16 years old and from Canada. I agree, it is scary.
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Hey! I'm from Canada. What's that supposed to mean? We may have a few sheeple up here but Canadians generally pride themselves on being independant thinkers and not contributing to the dumbing down of the masses. Give us a break eh!
Admin:
Oh, yes, they say he lied. They rant, they rave. They have a whole GOTCHA, JON post because now there is PROOF that Jon lied because Kate probably insisted that TLC air that particular bit of film (with the kids talking to Jon when they first get to Australia) just to PROVE that Jon lied. They are so adamant about it I wondered if maybe I was just missing some information.
TINC, I can't find ANYTHING on the internet about any statement Jon said. His tweets are protected so I can't see them. I can only assume this must have been in a tweet? When you do a post, why the hell wouldn't you actually provide the actual tweet?
If he lied, what did he say? He was pissed off she took them to Australia, fair enough, but lying about it is not the answer. But I want to know what the man said.
The only thing I'm aware of about this incident is that Radar's sources were saying all along the kids were calling him.
All that aside? The kids calling their father is none of our damn business and shouldn't be aired, period. Whether the kids call, when, how often, is between Jon, Kate and the courts. None of our effing business. Shame on both of them for discussing it, and shame on Kate for letting it air. My father rarely went out of town but when he did he always called. I cannot imagine having that phone call FILMED and broadcast to millions. Sheesh.
Admin:
There is no citation. There is no linkage. There is a lot of GOTCHA, a lot of venom. In other circumstances they have accused Jon of "cleaning house" by erasing tweets so the now invisible tweets may be their source. I don't know. Just as Kate confuses me, her fans leave me reeling, too. Have a fun day!
Can you believe they replayed that old Natalie Morales interview of Kate last night? Who does that? Tears flowing, soliciting sympathy, do you think? Watched it the first time, wouldn't be suckered into seeing it again. Many, many real stars have divorced and haven't had an hour long interview on tv to air their troubles. It was in poor taste the first time and the repeat is even worse. TLC is desperate to attract new fans since the old ones have Kate's number and have lost interest. When will this sham of a show end? I can't wait to see that list of sponsors. All that money wasted to show Kate the "life-changing" advantages of having plenty of money. It's sickening, really, considering there are people out there who are still dying of Aids, Cancer, Heart conditions, etc. Sad, really.
Wow,guys, Robert Irwin is 7 years old...he is just 5 months older than the tups(he's b-day is Dec 1st 2003).The Gosselin kids look pretty small compared to him.Ugh I just can't find that picture...there was a picture of just Robert and one of the tups and he looked so much bigger.Are we sure the tups don't have developmental delays? 6 months is not so much of an age difference
I just did a VERY quick skim of the comments on some of the posts I made during the Australia trip. There were more of them than I remembered.
The only thing I can find in reference to phone calls is first a few comments that hopefully Jon can at least call his kids, then a few days later, someone posted the Radar article that said Kate was indeed allowing him to call the kids. There was some discussion about how very generous it was for Kate to "allow" the children's own father to speak to them. Further discussion about how he has a RIGHT to call his own kids and that it was probably part of the court order when this trip was permitted by the court. Nothing about Jon ever saying he didn't call them. If anything there was relief that he was able to at least talk to them. I can't imagine that not one person here did not notice that Jon allegedly said he wasn't calling them. That would have been significant if Jon was disputing what all the articles were saying and I would be shocked it wasn't posted by SOMEONE. And yet, I don't see it.
If Jon ever said he couldn't call the kids, I really dropped the ball on that and missed it. That would be my fault. And yet, I can't find it. Still waiting to find out if he did say anything to this effect, and what it was....
Well Robert wasn't a preemie. Steve and Terry actually exploited his actual natural BIRTH and he was a big baby. Bindi's birth was filmed and aired too, in all its pushing and grunting and natural childbirth glory. How embarrassing for those kids. Robert's parents are also pretty big robust people. Both tall and Steve was a big guy. He's not towering over them, he's just a few inches taller. I think he's probably on the tall side for a kid his age, and the tups are maybe on the shorter side. But all within normal ranges.
I think that Kate fan site is full of it. They always have screenshots and links and they don't have one for calling Jon a liar. I can see Jon's tweets and he does not mention not speaking to his children, he only mentions not SEEING them for New Years.
If they are referring to an anonymous source in the media saying that Jon didn't speak to his kids that's a whole other story. There are no quotes from Jon saying he never spoke to them, are there? I couldn't find any.
Let them post PROOF Jon said he didn't speak to his children in Australia. I can't find any.
I also would never go by anything they claim to remember because they twist people's words all the time. They can't even read a tweet or blog comment without misunderstanding it or misquoting it. Then they all repeat it as fact. I've seen them do it recently. They do it all the time.
Admin,
I am on Jon's twitter. He never said anything about not being in contact with his kids. In fact he never tweeted anything about them while they were in Australia (actually he doesn't tweet anything about them except an occasional - 'they are doing well' when asked how the kids are doing). All he said around that time was something about what he might be doing for New
Years and saying he missed his kids a lot in only little update. That was it. Jon had kept very silent for a long time about everything.
He never said anything about not talking with his children at all. Tabloids and sheeple all twist things for maximum entertainment.
This drives the 'other side' nuts I am sure.
I've seen the owner of that Kate fan blog post lies on purpose to prove a point. She admitted she made it up so that the "haters" will know what it feels like. I actually think she felt stupid once she found out she was wrong but didn't want to admit it or apologize.
Then she left the lies there and continued to let her posters expand on the lies. They all relished in her making up the lies and posting it as truth. They said it was payback. They are a twisted bunch.
If there was no tweet in which Jon said he didn't call the kids, then all we are left with are tabloid articles and anonymous sources. And guess what? The tabloid articles said he CALLED THE KIDS. In fact all the comments from that time on my blog are about how relieved we all were at least he can TALK to his kids while they were gone for so long. The tabloids are perfectly consistent with the show. Jon spoke with the kids during their trip. Jon was worried about the bad weather there and spoke with the kids AGAIN. I don't get it.
Like I said, if he lied, then I'll be the first to point it out. I just don't see the evidence of it. Show me the money as they say. I like gotch-ya moments along with the best of them. But the gotch-ya's have to be based on fact!
There was a possible "gotch-ya" moment in Australia where Kate was caught allegedly being chummy with a pap, posing for photos with him etc. The problem is I wasn't 100% convinced he was a true and true pap, maybe only 50% convinced and sorry, that's not eough. Yes I saw him taking photos but he could have been an amateur. I didn't post it. I also thought it was a possibility Kate just didn't realize he was something more than a run of the mill fan. He could have presented himself as a fan with a nice camera. It's not about an agenda, it's not about gotch-ya, it's about being sure. I wasn't going to accuse Kate of a gotchya without sufficient proof, just as I wouldn't do it to Jon.
And speaking of lying, I'm still waiting for that same site to take down the lies about how I begged for money. Oh wait, there is no screen shot, link, proof, etc of that either. I guess I know how Jon feels.
ROL must be paid dearly by TLC to write things about Kate. They describe her as a superstar and gorgeous. Delusional and laughing all the way to the bank, don't you think? I didn't click on the entire article, but the tease was sickening enough. Syrupy, really. My diabetic numbers went up just viewing the tease. TLC is desperate to keep Kate relevant. Can't wait to see the viewer numbers.
One final thought, even if back during the trip Jon claimed he wasn't able to call the kids, I am sure I would have been very skeptical of that.
I'm a family law attorney. No judge I have ever known would allow a mother to take the children out of the country for three weeks without a provision to have frequent phone contact with their father. In fact, I doubt she could even get by with a small trip of three or four days without a court order commanding her to allow Jon to talk to his kids.
I just wouldn't have believed anyone's crying anyway if anyone was claiming Jon wasn't allowed to talk to the kids. Get your butt down to court and make the judge order it, you have a right to it and there isn't a judge in the land who would have refused such a reasonable request.
Well, well, well!!! A full day of moving around NYC. Interviews and lunch and who knows what but not one Pap pic!!!!
Where oh Where...not only was she all over NYC, she was tweeting about where she was going:
At lunch,
Heading to HLN/JoyBehar
Waiting for my car
etc....
No paps no photos no one cars.
I think her tweets are more for getting photogs to follow her. She doesn't respond to fan tweets. Actually only responded to two. One of them was to the hairdresser who was plugging the hair color and number ( INOA blonde-9.01 30vol-GORGE ) that Kate uses. (Miss Ultimate Fan is you are reading this now you know, bet you are giddy with excitement - however not all salons get to use the INOA products - better start hunting now)
Omg! I’m totally laughing! I was listening to a local talk show this morning; they were talking about Kirstie Alley and how she didn’t fall to pieces after the mis-step last night on DWTS but continued on graciously and gracefully.
The talk show guys evolved into if this had happened to someone else, how would they have handled it. The one guy says, how about that Kate lady? What was her name again? That one with 900 kids?
The other host says, Oh yeah! Kate….Kate….Kate…. oh! Gosselin…yeah. She would have started up with the lame excuses and would have gone on and on and on about how it wasn’t her fault. Remember? She’s the one who hates her ex so bad. She would have blamed it on him.
The hosts yucked it up while they made up lame excuses that they thought Kate would have made about it being Jon’s fault.
But then they got back to how Kate has NO sense of humor about herself and would have blamed everybody else, her partner, the costumer, the hair-dresser; how hateful she is.
I thought it was pretty funny that the one guy had absolutely no idea what her last name was. So much for being a “stah”, eh?
Sorry if this has been posted, but Ken Tucker from Entertainment Weekly skewered Kate, & probably won't be reviewing Kate+8 anymore. She's done.
http://watching-tv.ew.com/2011/04/04/kate-plus-8-australia-review-brilliant/
And speaking of lying, I'm still waiting for that same site to take down the lies about how I begged for money
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Admin, you have copied and printed that story (for possible future action), haven't you?
Kind of fun little game to play….watch for Steve in this latest episode. See how many times you can spot him. He’s hiding behind bushes, lurking in the trees, standing way far away from the group. If you watch carefully you can see him standing way ahead of the group, or far off to the side.
Pay attention to what he has on…then in the close-up, tight shots you can see his feet, or the edge of his shoulder, or the bottom of his shorts sticking into the frame.
As an example, watch the scene where they’re leaving the camp-site, if you watch the trees up ahead of them you can see Steve lurking on the path. He actually walks back and forth a few times on the path.
If you didn’t know it was Steve, you’d think that they had a prowler or intruder/stalker. If that had been a stranger, you’d ask why the person was spying on the Gosselins!
One of the scenes where they were walking back to the bus….there’s Steve walking ahead of the group, leading the way a Dad might, carrying one of the children! Kate’s following behind, chomping on her gum, carrying only her purse, like she’s one of the kids.
Once you start not watching what they’re featuring, you can spot Steve all over the place! This works best if you turn the sound off.
I thought Robert Irwin was born in July of 2003.
If that is true, he's just short of a full year older than the Gosselins. Kids grow a lot in a year.
The difference between Kate and the Irwins is that the Irwins have always been about teaching people about wildlife and conservation. I don't believe they care a whit about personal fame except as how it gives them the means to reach so many people. It is not about them, it is about the animals. It is a true passion and calling. And passionate people always seem a bit crazy. I think they are good people who love each other and what they do.
.Are we sure the tups don't have developmental delays? 6 months is not so much of an age difference
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Height is genetic. Jon is fairly short, probably no more than 5'7''. Kate is about the same. It's a stereotype that Asians are shorter than Caucasians, but one that our President seems to believes: "Obviously there are a lot of folk from Asian ancestry in Hawaii, generally the teams aren’t as tall." I wonder how he explains Yao Ming's (Houston Rockets) height at 7'6''!
Kids develop at different ages. I remember that one of the boys in my first grade class was very tiny, small-boned, and homely. Some of the kids teased him and called him "squirt." The summer between sixth and seventh grades, something happened, and he shot up and kept growing. By the time he was a junior, he was a six-footer, well-built, and a hunk! You just never know! The girls who had called him squirt wanted to date him, but he didn't give them the time of day! Payback!
I did catch the end of the episode and there is something that really bugs me. As they are all walking away, Khate talks about how all the children thanked her so much for taking them on the trip. What kids do that? She has said that in previous episodes as well - "thank you mommy, thank you" she recalls, as though she has done them some great favour. Bugs the crap out of me! I would expect my kids to be happy, joyful, but not grateful to me.
ADMIN, Jon did NOT post a single thing about a phone call from or TO the kids. Not sure where they got that lie from, but it was NOT from his tweets. He is very quiet about even his weekends with the kids, he has gotten so much grief about it. Then when he stopped mentioning his weekends, they attacked him with "why are you NOT saying anything about your children". Such drivel. I am glad he is quiet about it now. Even when he did mention them being with him, he didn't divulge much of anything.
I am sick of the hypocrisy of these people. Ok Jon being in the public eye too, is fair game for comments, just like Kate. But to keep going after the guy over and over, when it is CLEAR he has moved on and working and wants a private life, enough already. Also the attacks on Ellen are inexcusable. That girl has done nothing to deserve the rath of these people. If Kate DID meet some guy who is good to her kids and to her, I would NEVER attack the man. They should be happy that Ellen does seem to really care for those kids, and they seem to care for her. She includes them in HER life. IF they cared about the kids at all, of course, they would be happy. If I were Kate, I would appreciate that too, and also be ADULT and met the girl. They have been together for almost a year, so it looks like she will be around. I would want to KNOW who was around my kids and have an amicable relatiionship. But I think that is impossible for Kate, I believe the woman is just too immature to act decently. Plus, when there is STILL such blatant hostility, there are many feelings still there. No forgiveness, no "moving on". Mucho feelings of some kind.
Mel said... No thanks. I don't watch this show. The less viewers they have, the sooner the show will be cancelled. I really do NOT get anyone who posts on this site would even watch. I really don't. WHY add to the numbers? Makes no sense to me, sorry. Certainly not telling anyone what to do, but it just doesn't make SENSE to me. Sorry
"Administrator said... I too am skeptical of the whole I just cant find a man routine."
Admin I am with you. They surely are pushing it more and more. The filming of her talking and dancing with men in NYC? Every single interview you can tell that the questions are prearranged. It is the same 2 core quesions. About Jon, and this dating thing. LOL I suppose the relationship rumors with Steve are really getting to them.
The stupid stuff she said about dating on Access Hollywood.
“It’s hard to find the time, it’s hard to go on a date, and hear somebody, blah, blah, blah-ing and you’re thinking, ‘I don’t care, I don’t care! What am I making for dinner tomorrow night?’’” Kate said.
Wow what a way to make a man feel special, eh? Blah blah blah. Gosh can't imagine why she can't seem to hook a fella. LOL
Girl from Up North asked: What kids do that? She has said that in previous episodes as well - "thank you mommy, thank you" she recalls, as though she has done them some great favour.
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What kids do that? Kids who have a narcissist for a mother! Haven't they been programmed to know that she expects it? It's their duty to be thankful to her. It's all about HER.
Where oh where have all the paps gone???? said... Well, well, well!!! A full day of moving around NYC. Interviews and lunch and who knows what but not one Pap pic!!!!
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Good point!! Very well put!
ADMIN sorry about all these posts, last one for now, I promise. (I MUST check here more often LOL) I have been reading about little Cara's meltdown she had ON FILM. That is just sickening to me. That girl is getting older and this, to me, is just inexcusable. I did NOT watch this show, and won't every again, so not sure if the meltdown is true or not.
I also heard that some tweets to Kate from a FAN, after saying they love the show, says they can't wait for the "usual meltdown" of Mady's, that this what they wait to see and really enjoy it. I sincerely hope that was total sarcasm. I hope it was. I mean. Really?? These poor kids are NEVER going to live this crap down.
"And passionate people always seem a bit crazy. I think they are good people who love each other and what they do."
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I respectfully disagree with that. Not all passionate people always seem a bit crazy. There are thousands of people out there who are passionate about what they do, and they do it without fanfare and flourish...Civil Rights activists, philanthropists, environmentalists, humanitarians, spiritual leaders.
I think that the Irwins most certainly see dollar signs and fame as being very important. What if Bindi wanted to be a physician or a social worker? Do you think that her mother would be supportive? Somehow I cannot see her encouraging her daughter in anything other than the "family business."
Get ready for a new bachelorette type show. Just too coincidental that the topic keeps coming up whenever she's interviewed. NO mention of the new season/Australia episode with Matt on the Today show. Just like DWTS, she let it out so coyly, and poof! there she was! Weren't they taping some kind of dating thing on her birthday in NYC???
The reason I think TLC can't let go of her is because it put them on the map, so to speak. They made AAAAAA LOOOOOTTTT of money with her. I think they're just trying to find another "magic formula", but it's not happening.
'Kate Plus 8' season premiere review: It's off to a brilliant start... or is it?
http://www.twazzup.com/?q=kateplusmy8&l=all
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I guess not.... the critic used 2 words to describe this episode- painful & tedious.
I just saw the webisode with Ashley and the milkshakes, why are those kids never allowed to pick their own icecream? Why can't they ever go into the icecream shop, what is the hurry. Ashley sounds more and more like Kate, how could the shop have milkshakes but no icecream. Half the fun for kids is looking at all the icecream and trying to decide, if you don't have time to do that you shouldn't bother to get icecream at all.
There is a website, rhymes with plop, & I don't go there anymore, wanna know why? Because EVERYONE says "I won't watch, I'm not gonna watch". Well, I just went over there to check it out, & every other post was a comment about the damn show last night. So hypocritical IMO. I have stopped going over there for awhile now, I couldn't take all the rules, but wow. When you see some of the excuses, "I just HAD to watch to see if this was true", it really makes us look bad, dontcha think? It's like, do you secretly love her? If you can't stand her sooooo much, why watch? Is she really worth your precious time? If you want the kids off TV & you really want Kate off Tv & AWAY from the media, WHY ARE YOU WATCHING & contributing? hypocritical. (sorry, bad day. It's gloomy & gray outside. and we don't need that wench winning) Agreed? (I am happy to see here that we all turned away. We ROCK at 15 minutes!)
This was all I found about Jon and the phone calls from Australia. They refer to Radar Online:
The Berks County dad did not want his kids to go on the two-week trip to Australia and New Zealand and tried to get a Berks County judge to block the trip because he wanted to spend New Year with his kids. But the judge at Berks County Court ruled that Kate could take the children down-under because it was work related.
Reportedly Jon was worried when Australia was hit with flooding. Australia's northeastern state of Queensland has been flooded by drenching rains that began in November sending rivers spilling over their banks and flooding huge areas. So far, 16 people have been killed in the floods with a reported 43 people missing in the area where Kates and the kids visited.
"Naturally, Jon was worried because his kids were so far away and in an area that was hit by the freaky weather," a source told RadarOnline. "But to her credit Kate kept him posted and he was allowed to talk to his kids on the phone - who saw the trip as a huge adventure. Luckily, they missed the worst of the floods and they should return safe and sound to America shortly so that Jon can be re-united with them again."
Girl from Up North said...
I did catch the end of the episode and there is something that really bugs me. As they are all walking away, Khate talks about how all the children thanked her so much for taking them on the trip. What kids do that?
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Kate: My kids thanked me for _____________.
Translation: "See, they really do appreciate this stuff. They love filming, they are very grateful for the opportunities, the crying and pouting are just an act and they really do love doing all of this. BECAUSE I SAID SO AND THEREFORE IT IS TRUE."
Why does Kate need a man?
It seems like TLC is pushing this - they see money, money, money, and ratings, ratings, ratings. See Kate. See Kate date. See Kate fight with date. See date leave Kate. See Kate find another date. See Kate dance on bar. See Kate get dumped again. See Kate in crocodile tears. Hear Kate say, "I don't get it. I just don't get it. Everyone in my life leaves me."
Would people watch? Of course! It's a whole other ball of wax. Let's get those ratings back up to divorce times again...nothing like a good tragic love story to bring viewers back to the fold.
Kate need a man? Nope. TLC needs a man.
IDK which sheeple blog you're referring to making the accusations about Jon, but if the sheeple had any proof that Jon had said he wasn't allowed to talk to the kids they would have copy/pasted it into their post like they do everything else. The reason they didn't post it is because it doesn't exist. They've once again, taken an article from Radar that is easy to understand and misinterpreted it, twisted it, and/or lied to bash Jon. I follow Jon and he did not tweet anything about not being allowed to talk to his kids while on the trip.
That whole Radar article from January was discussed on the blogs when it happened and there was speculation that the contempt of court charge Jon filed when Kate was gone was because he'd had no contact with the kids -- but NO PROOF exists for the contempt charge because it's not public record. The sheeple can't differentiate between fact and fiction and can't read an article and separate it from speculation and discussion. There was no proof of the speculation of it back in January and they're just bringing up old news but trying it with a new twist.
But, why are we talking about what's posted on a sheeple blog anyway? Why go there and read? Why engage with them? Leave them alone and they'll go away. Just like if there are no viewers of Kate's show it'll go away.
Any news on ratings yet?
There is a website, rhymes with plop, & I don't go there anymore, wanna know why? Because EVERYONE says "I won't watch, I'm not gonna watch". Well, I just went over there to check it out, & every other post was a comment about the damn show last night
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Hippie: I am laughing, not at you, but with you. We must have been there at the same time because I was thinking the same thing! There is one poster, who shall remain nameless, who carries on unmercifully with hatred for Kate and the show, but then said that they watched because they just had to see if one event that was discussed was true. What kind of rationalization is that? Posters want the show OFF THE AIR, but they continue to watch!
But then I do wonder why, if we don't watch, it is recapped, and then discussed. Granted, it's not contributing to the ratings, but it's still putting it out there for dissection.
"Ashley sounds more and more like Kate, how could the shop have milkshakes but no icecream."
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Of course an ice cream shop has ice cream! The kids probably wanted ice cream, but it was too messy, sob she flat out told them they only had milkshakes because it was much easier for them to drink shakes than to deal with ice cream. Nothing like a little fib to get the job done!
Someone, don't remember who, asked about the difference between Kate posting with Twitterific and Mobile Web. Mobile Web is the browser in a smart phone. She probably did the first few tweets through the browser (internet) on her phone or someone else's phone (or someone else set it up on their phone and did it for her). The last tweets were done on an iphone or ipad app (application) called Twitterific. It makes it easier to tweet than going through your browser.
fidosmommy said...I don't think Joy B. has much use for Sherri S.
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Someone said it earlier, Joy talks out of both sides of her mouth. She bashes Kate on her show all the time and calls the G8 brats. She laughed along with everyone else when Jay Thomas called her a brood sow. If Kate really wanted to defend herself and more importantly her children she'd go on the show and challenge Joy on all those things that she's said about her family. Of course she won't because she's eager to stay relevant and there's no way she can honestly defend exploiting her kids. Besides that she has no clue how to handle a seasoned big-mouth like Joy who, if she wanted to, could destroy Kate in a second if it was possible to engage her in an actual unscripted discussion.
So we know damn well Kate's appearance on Joy's show today will be all about dating and hints about a new dating show. It's all intertwined to promote the faux-celebrity culture of reality tv. Kate wallows in it and so does Joy. It's a huge farce and so sad that the only way she could do it was by pimping her kids and dragging them into the muck and mire of it all.
The guy in the speedo looks great. I love speedos think all men with a decent body like that should wear them. I love seeing mens thighs. It looks really sexy on the right figure. I cant get over all the people who criticize them so much. They are just as sexy on the right guy as bikinis are on women.
Kate will NEVER find a man unless she finds one very willing to subject himself to her assholery. The problem is, you usually have to charm a person first, then reveal the assholery slowly over time, but every guy on the planet already KNOWS what she's like!
Secondly, WHY IS SHE TALKING ABOUT HER KID'S MEDICAL ISSUES AND THERAPY ON TV? Oh my GOD. When my daughter was in fourth and fifth grade, she had to go to a counselor for a while for anxiety issues. I didn't even tell some family members about it, because it was none of their damn business and I wanted to protect her privacy. This woman is blabbing about her kids' therapy and medical shit on national TV! She has no boundaries where those kids are concerned.
But I guess when you see them as a sellable object, you don't really give a rip about their feelings or privacy.
She's such a soulless hag, I swear to God. She makes Joan Crawford look like Winnie the Pooh.
Mel said...
Kind of fun little game to play….watch for Steve in this latest episode. See how many times you can spot him. He’s hiding behind bushes, lurking in the trees, standing way far away from the group. If you watch carefully you can see him standing way ahead of the group, or far off to the side.....
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Thanks but no thanks. I don't find anything about Kate's show to be fun or a game. I don't watch the show for a number of reasons but the main one is that I can't stand that the children are WORKING to support themselves and their mother's lavish lifestyle and that the show exploits their childhoods for profit.
A number of articles posted recently have said the show will end this season if it gets bad ratings and people watching the show won't help the numbers go down. Here's one article:
'Kate Plus 8' season premiere review: It's off to a brilliant start... or is it?
TLC is offering up all new episodes of 'Kate Plus 8' starting tonight. And although the new season pulls out all the stops, including taking Kate Gosselin and her kids to Australia for the premiere, insiders tell me that everyone, especially Kate, is worried that she might not receive a warm welcome back.
"This season Kate has been told to bring her A-game," a TV producer tells me. "If her ratings drop to the 1 million mark this will be her last season, and then Kate would have to get a real job."
An insider assures me the new 'Kate Plus 8' episodes pack the goods: "You are going to see Kate spend another night camping, but this time without Sarah Palin. You will see her explore Sydney, meet with aboriginals and even swim with sharks in an attempt to win back viewers."
TLC gave the reality star a lucrative opportunity to have her own show after she and Jon called it quits. But despite the hype, Kate's spinoff, 'Kate Plus 8,' did not bring in the numbers TLC had hoped for.
The series debut brought in 3.4 million, but the second episode dropped 33 percent to 2.2 million viewers before stabilizing with around 1.6 million viewers per episode -- way below the staggering 10 million that tuned in for the infamous episode in which Jon and Kate finally announced their divorce.
Still, a source close to Kate tells me that TLC continues to have faith in the Gosselins. "TLC hadn't really done 'Kate Plus 8' in a series way until now -- it was just sporadic specials that people had trouble finding," my source says. "TLC does believe in her."
http://www.popeater.com/2011/04/04/kate-plus-8-new-season/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl3|sec1_lnk2|54162
BTW, notice that Kate Plus 8 is a SERIES and no longer sporadic specials like Kate and TLC said it would be when the show returned.
Ok, I fibbed, had to post ONE more. sorry LOL
Hippie Chick,
YOU HIT IT, once again. WHY watch this mess? Why post on a blog about Kate then turn around and add to the numbers?? MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. Sooner or later they will show it again. Either you are serious or not about getting these kids off TV. It really is maddening to me. I would bet that HALF the viewers are NON fans. Doesn't that make you feel good??
NT...ratings take a few days to come out. That guy on the ratings page LOVES it when people bug them about ratings for the show, he just absolutely gloated how people ask and ask. He mocked all the people who kept asking, I won't even go to that site any longer.
Moose Mania said... I agree about the recaps too, I really don't even care about the show, eventually it will be available to watch it, IF someone really wants to. (Even tho Admin does do a great job of recapping(
For those of you that don't understand Twitter, you cannot delete someone else's tweets to you. Only the person who did the tweet can delete it.
You can BLOCK a person if they are harassing you or you don't want to read their tweets for whatever reason. All you can do is block them. They can still include your name in their tweets and anyone else can read them.
Everyone else that does a search for or follows the person who made the tweet can see it.
Also, if you are blocked from someone, you cannot read their tweets unless you do a search in the twitter search box for their twitter name. You can view their tweets if you sign out too.
The only time you cannot view their tweets is if they are on Private. You have to request to Follow them and they have to approve you. They can block you at any time.
If she "follows" someone then that person's tweets will always show on her main page or Home Screen along with hers.
If she doesn't "follow" them then she will have to go to her Mentions or @ to view them.
There she can view any tweets that "mention" her. She would have to read through them ALL or at least pass through them all to see all the love fest tweets.
You do not have to have a twitter account to read someone's tweets, unless they are on Private, but they would have to approve you.
Hope that answers most of your questions about Twitter.
Moose Mania said... But then I do wonder why, if we don't watch, it is recapped, and then discussed. Granted, it's not contributing to the ratings, but it's still putting it out there for dissection.
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Amen to that! Now there are two of us who wonder. LOL
I just want to clarify an earlier tweet I did. Jon did not actually comment on not seeing his children for New Years. He thanked another tweeter for their well wishes to him despite not seeing his children for New Years. All Jon wrote was Thank you.
The kids probably wanted ice cream, but it was too messy, sob she flat out told them..."
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That was a typo. There should be no "b" on "so." I didn't call anyone an sob!
Hippie Chick and Moose Mania, I'm in the same boat as you. I pretty much come to this blog, haven't been to the other for a few months. I'm really, pleasantly surprised not to see a single post in this thread from anyone talking about last night's show. And this thread was created for discussion of the episode! High fives to everyone here!
Girl up North, according to Khate, the kids have been "thanking" her for their vacations since the tups were probably three years old. She's used this line before, the first of which might have been their first trip to Disney World, or perhaps the Utah ski trip. And I agree, no kid that age says that to their parents. Khate will say whatever she needs to to justify filming, and she's been speaking FOR her kids for years. And those comments she made on the Today show yesterday, about following the therapist's orders to continue filming, and that she's doing the right thing? Stupidest thing she's ever said...EVER.
No Regrets - Yes, Cara had a meltdown. They were watching the fireworks on a platform with other people and they had one small spot with a bench to sit on. Cara was sitting on the end and looked sort of squished. One of the other kids was whining about wanting to sit down, Kate asked/told (can't remember) to move down. Cara had that sullen expression kids get, especially when they are tired and cold and it's late at night and they really would rather be back at the hotel. Cara at one point started complaining and crying and Kate told ashley to take her to the van. A few moments later, Kate looked at Mady who began protesting her innocence and started crying and begging not to be taken to the van. I realize the kids are melodramatic (they've learned from the best), esp. girls at that age but Mady's expression and voice took me aback. It sounded like going to the van was code for being thrown in boiling oil. After the whole thing Kate acknowledged that with the jet lag, beach day, boomerang lesson and New Years party she threw for them at the hotel, going to see fireworks probably wasn't the best idea.
Moose Mania said... But then I do wonder why, if we don't watch, it is recapped, and then discussed. Granted, it's not contributing to the ratings, but it's still putting it out there for dissection.
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I didn't watch K+8 last night but I think the recaps that expose her lies and abusive behavior should be discussed. Aside from her other disorders she's a child exploiter and so is TLC. It shouldn't be ignored it needs to be stopped. It's the same as ignoring drunk drivers in the hope that they'll just go away.
Laws need to pull the reins in on people who put children on reality shows.
Jon has a private twitter account. He has a little over 2000 people following him, so he has to approve everyone who sends a request. I sent him a request because I'm genuinely interested in following him. I won't follow her, though. Why would I?
The fact that his is private says a lot, I think.
Yeah Hippie Chick I stopped going to that site a long time ago I did go there for the first time in months a couple hours ago and I see nothing changer: promises, threatens,disgust before every episode and "I had to watch" I was flipping through.." "My brother was watching and I was stuck in the room" " and all the other lame excuses after every episode.Give me a break! You either watch or you don't this is in black and white, no way to spin it.
I saw online the preview with Cara jumping,I would have done that at ten over my mother's dead body.I would have wanted but no none would have said yes to me.I would do this now, as an adult however.I would never let my 10 year old daughter do it(if I had one).
Also, Admin and Moose Mania(I think) thank you for clarifying the developmental (apparently nonexistent) issues :) I'm glad they're fine because they don't need this too the poor kids.
"I love speedos think all men with a decent body like that should wear them. I love seeing mens thighs. It looks really sexy on the right figure. I cant get over all the people who criticize them so much."
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Do you mean people with conservative taste? Could it be that some just don't like a display of sex on the beach and letting it all hang out for public perusal? I guess it's all in how one was raised, and how much one is willing to put out there to be scrutinized! ;-)
After the whole thing Kate acknowledged that with the jet lag, beach day, boomerang lesson and New Years party she threw for them at the hotel, going to see fireworks probably wasn't the best idea.
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I *distinctly* remember an old epi of J&K plus 8 (in the old house) where Kate was complaining about (6 yo) Mady's grumpiness and stated that 6 year olds still need naps.
I didn't watch the Aussie show, but it sounds like after a 21 hour flight, they hit the ground running and if some of the kids melted down at midnight, well, I'd have melted down long before that!
That is just plain grueling.
No regrets said...
I would bet that HALF the viewers are NON fans. Doesn't that make you feel good??
No, no it doesn't. I have felt that for a long time. People watch this because Kate is a big ole' trainwreck. WHY do the so-called haters insist on watching? I don't know. I'm not blaming anywhere here, it looks like we held strong at 15 Minutes...but dammit, rhymes w/ plop, one of the reasons I stopped posting over there is because we couldn't say how we actually felt about people watching. Look, we're all frigin adults, as long as no one is getting hurt, it's coolio, but HELLO? Aren't the kids getting hurt? Isn't the whole reason we're here fighting the big bad is so the kids can have a chance at a normal childhood & get Kate OUT of the spotlight? IF YOU WATCH, YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE RATINGS. PERIOD.
Kate needs to go. She is a lying, conniving, fame-whoring, wanna-be, famous for the sake of being famous, riding the limelight on the backs of her kids, undeserving, greedy, grifting, ugly on the inside, mean, non-maternal, friendless, sack of crap nobody who is riding high in the lap of luxury because she sought the spotlight by insisting to her husband & doctors that she couldn't have children, in turn having multiples & then reaching out her hand palm up to receive anything & everything she could have, including a television show (big breath) that she can't even carry on her own without her kids. OH, yeah...Kate SO deserves the ratings. And the local dealer who beats his girlfriend in his meth lab deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. (I'm going to go take a walk now with my dog. :)) *happy thoughts to all*
I have been reading about little Cara's meltdown she had ON FILM. That is just sickening to me. That girl is getting older and this, to me, is just inexcusable.
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Kate once mentioned on the show that Cara bottles up all her emotions, similar to Jon, so when something finally ticks her off all these emotions come gushing to the surface.
Kate doesn't teach her kids how to cope when things go wrong or don't go their way, she's living proof of what happens when she can't cope with a situation i.e. camping in Alaska, etc. - if her kids see mommy meltdown, then they'll think it's okay for them to meltdown too.
I'm worried about these meltdowns, especially from the twins, because I feel like it's more than just not getting what they want (unlike the sextuplets at their age). Since the start of their reality show, I sort of felt like the twins were treated second-rate in that family, even though they get to partake in these "wonderful life-experiences". It seemed like the show and the Gosselin parents were more concerned about the sextuplets, while the twins were extras just so the viewers can marvel at how Kate deals with 8 kids total.
Now that the twins are older, I wonder if they're starting to realize this unfair treatment by both Kate and the crew. That's on top of everything else a 10 year old girl starts dealing with, including their parents' divorce and growing up in the spotlight.
I hope these girls are receiving proper guidance from others or professional help so they can learn how to deal with life better than what their own mother has taught them (which isn't much).
I emailed a certain blog and asked "please post proof of the lie" The blog admin is scambling to proove it.
Protect the Gosselin 8 said... Kate once mentioned on the show that Cara bottles up all her emotions, similar to Jon, so when something finally ticks her off all these emotions come gushing to the surface.
Kate doesn't teach her kids how to cope when things go wrong or don't go their way, she's living proof of what happens when she can't cope with a situation i.e. camping in Alaska, etc. - if her kids see mommy meltdown, then they'll think it's okay for them to meltdown too.
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OMG, think about this for a minute. The kids emotions & outbursts mirror Kates. This is so dead on. So does Kate tell them it's ok for mommy to act that way, but they will be punished severly if THEY act that way?
I am quoting here from the blog owner who posted a thread about the lie & then this response to what I am sure was more than 1 email on her proof:
"He tweeted it and then I think either ROL or INF did a story on it. Don't have time right now to go back and find the tweet and the story"
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Plenty of time to make stuff up and create drama and get her buddy BM included. Again though, she should post some proof or STFU!
I don't know. I'm not blaming anywhere here, it looks like we held strong at 15 Minutes...but dammit, rhymes w/ plop, one of the reasons I stopped posting over there is because we couldn't say how we actually felt about people watching.
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A mod just posted over there that the discussion is open to those who watched the show, and if a poster didn't agree with watching the show, he/she shouldn't be there.
"She is a lying, conniving, fame-whoring, wanna-be, famous for the sake of being famous, riding the limelight on the backs of her kids, undeserving, greedy, grifting, ugly on the inside, mean, non-maternal, friendless, sack of crap nobody who is riding high in the lap of luxury because she sought the spotlight by insisting to her husband & doctors that she couldn't have children, in turn having multiples & then reaching out her hand palm up to receive anything & everything she could have, including a television show (big breath) that she can't even carry on her own without her kids.
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Geez, Hippie. Can you say that in one breath? That's one LONG sentence. Now, tell us how you really feel!!
silimom said...
…but Mady's expression and voice took me aback. It sounded like going to the van was code for being thrown in boiling oil
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I was flipping channels and came upon the show at that time and thought the same thing. Between her voice and the way she put her hands up in protest (or as protection), I couldn't help to wonder what would have happened if the camera wasn't rolling. It was so uncomfortable to watch that I had to turn off the TV.
Hippie Chick, I so agree with you about not watching the "show." We will only see this end when Kate is no longer anywhere. My husband believes even the blogs must disappear for the "suits" at TLC to end this mess. I get so disgusted by the fact that Kate and others are rewarded with trips, appearances, etc., and they do absolutely nothing to deserve it. So many, many "snakes in the grass." Kate is one of the worst for exploiting her children. That "thank you, mommy" business is sickening. Who but a self serving person would require that from their children? Teaching manners is one thing, this demand is quite another. Sad the children don't realize that no one in the family would even be on a trip of any kind with out them being filmed. When the kids mature and start asking questions about the money, it will not be pretty. Get ready, Kate.
Hippie Chick -
I agree with and wonder the same things.Why are the haters watching this show??I tried to post there and here last night asking the exact same question.I wasent rude,and I didnt call anyone out.Neither site posted my post.I did use anon in fear of some backlash tho.I simply asked why are the "haters" watching this show?We ask the sheeple all the time why they watch.
At the other site there was a poster going on and on about how tlc thinks anyone is going to watch this "crappy" show....its a waste...and kate is skum...then in the next breath the poster says..I'm watching it right now! WTF? Thats what I dont get.I really think the "haters" give a larger audience than the sheeple.I also thought we came to these sites to try and help get these kids thier lives back.The only way we can do this is by NOT watching the show.
kate was on for over 6 hours in my neck of the woods.I didnt feel the need to check it out for even a second.I guess I just dont understand it.
I've had nightmares after seeing 80 year old men wearing speedos at the beach, especially when they are hanging out of the speedo or they open up or pull the suit down to get sand out of it.
Can we say Hypocrite? I'm on twitter and I wanted to see what this idiot is "Twatting about" This one makes me vomit, she's giving advice about "not bad mouthing the kids'father".
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @tashapork @Kateplusmy8 Ans: don't give in to talking badly about ur kids dad no matter what. B pos. hard but wld be my bst advice 2u
Hey HypoKate, you're not qualified to give any advice to anyone. Maybe you can start charging your weirdo die hard fans, they seem to think you holier than the Virgin Mary.....NOT. Puke.
"I was just flipping through the channels......I just watched during my show's commercials.....I just had to see how they handled the bungee scene...."
What a crock. I am so thankful for the integrity of the posters on this site, and for our Admin, who will write a kick-ass recap. There's not a single good reason in the world for watching.
I kinda wish I could watch the kids, but I get physically sick when she sprawls out on the couch spewing her self-serving comments with ber boobs all propped up and hanging out in a room full of men.
I am old school and my mamma said ladies don't sit like that in front of men - especialy when they are 2 feet in front of you and it is being broadcast to hopefully less than a million.
I also don't like the way she sugars those kids up for their interview and tell to act all excited when nothing excites them anymore and they have to "act."
What on earth would we think if we tuned into Nancy Grace and she was splayed out on the desk half dressed expounding about what a great mom she is to the twins she has at home. I am thinking there would be an uprising against her show.
LaLaLandNoMore said... My husband believes even the blogs must disappear for the "suits" at TLC to end this mess.
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And another Amen! Slowly but surely.
Kate Plus 8 (TLC, 10pm)
- 1.306 million viewers
- 0.9/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49
via TravisYanan
http://travisyanan.blogspot.com/2011/04/monday-040411-final-cable-ratings.html
And another thing (I'm riled) there must be something coming up with Jon in court. I saw the clip on Joy - Jon this, Jon that, I try to be positive intimating that he is negative. It try to think what is best for the kids, the kids, the kids intimating that he does not. It used to be that people who were being blasted would have the opportunity to give their side as well. She takes full advantage of the fact that he can't do that thanks to TLC (big brother). His name should not be mentioned - the divorce was long ago and they should be comfortable in their arrangements by now.
That's okay 2012 is a coming.
What on earth would we think if we tuned into Nancy Grace and she was splayed out on the desk half dressed expounding about what a great mom she is to the twins she has at home
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I think that she does that without being half-dressed. I stopped watching her show when the twins were born. I got so sick and tired of hearing, "the twins did this," "the twins did that," "Little Lucy and John David..." and then the photos. Keep your family life private! We don't need to hear that every night you walk into the twins' room, check on them to make sure they are breathing, and then have viewers call to say what a great mom she is, how precious the twins are, ad nauseum. The show isn't about her mothering or the twins, although she doesn't resist the chance to mention them when the opportunity presents itself.
I didn't watch. I haven't watched for a couple of years now because of the way Kate acts, the screeching, the me, me, me attitude etc...
As for the kids meltdowns, well I think part of it is that the kids were never taught how to act any other way. To them, it's normal to bash each other on the head, push, shove, have a temper tantrum etc... These children have not had very much guidence in life (except for Aunt Jodi but we know how that ended). They were essentially born and performed before the cameras.
As for the twins, they too have never had a lot of guidence in their life either. The closest they came was probably staying with Kate's parents when she was on her "bed rest".
I hope that what the children are lacking in parenting from Kate they are getting from Jon (fingers crossed).
And of course there is always the distinct chance that one or more of the children will end up being just like Kate. They may grow up to be narcissicists too with the same sense of entitlement. I hope not but it could happen.
I wish we could get a comparison for these ratings with the ones previously. All that money, all that hype....they probably spent about $1.00 per viewer considering Khate's exorbitant fee.
There are numerous references and comments about the sheeple and their website. I tried to go to: gosselinfamilyfansite but after a second or two it directs me to a mental health website. No kidding! Can someone help me visit this website that everyone is always talking about. Thanks.
BM redirects people (haters) from her site.
Isn't it just in such poor taste for Kate to even mention Jon at all? She knows he has moved on to a romantic relationship with another woman. He works a job away from showbiz. She takes any pot shot she can at him. Jealous, do you think? It's like obsession. Get a life. 50% of marriages today end in divorce. Kate is not the only person in this situation. She in fact set the whole thing up. Now, live with it. Enjoy your kids and leave Jon alone. Misery loves company, do you think? Is all this talk of dating leading up to a special announcement? TLC loves this woman. Why?
now the sheeple are trying to say that Jon deleted a bunch of tweets so that is probably going to make it hard to find the "lie".
1.3 million? After all the time gone and money spent and thats where they are? I bet TLC was hoping for more.. or maybe not, because they sure havent put a whole lot of marketing behind it.
I agree it's very weird that she even talks about him publicly. If interviewers ask, she can just politely decline the question or tell them in advance no Jon or divorce questions. Of course, she would never do that. She's still pissed he isn't hanging around to be her scapegoat and target. It's obvious he's totally moved on and she has NOT. The ironic thing is she left him!
Admin: Another site is reporting that the ratings were just 1.3 million. For a "season premiere" and all the publicity she did on national television I think her goose is cooked.
Can we only hope?
Re: Speedos. To each his own - I personally don't have an issue with them, but I grew up swimming competetively in the 70's and 80's and every boy on my team wore one. I don't care for overweight men in them, but by the same token I don't care for overweight women in bikinis. But I understand that the look isn't something that everyone likes and recognize that most people aren't comfortable with it.
However! "Mr. Speedo" from the show was extraordinarily nice and pleasant to Kate. He was friendly, seemed to be generally interested in her and her family without being creepy, and just seemed like a nice man. He was also not from Australia (she couldn't seem to remember what country he was from, of course). But after they showed the scene of them on the beach, Kate proceeded to bash him for wearing the Speedo and laugh at him and shudder like it was the grossest thing she'd ever seen and carry on like a total witch. It was so disrespectful - not only of the customs of different countries (North Americans tend to be the only ones vehamently opposed to the Speedo look), but of a fan who was soooo nice to her. And for her to stand there with her cleavage hanging out and her high cut bikini bottom and to criticize HIM for wearing too little was just beyond hypocritical.
Dont you think this blog would have been all over it had Jon actually said he couldnt call his own kids?? You can bet I would! It feeds right into my belief that kate is an obsessed parental alienator. And yet we weren't because--it never happened.
LaLaLandNoMore said... Isn't it just in such poor taste for Kate to even mention Jon at all? She knows he has moved on to a romantic relationship with another woman. He works a job away from showbiz. She takes any pot shot she can at him. Jealous, do you think? It's like obsession. Get a life. 50% of marriages today end in divorce. Kate is not the only person in this situation. She in fact set the whole thing up. Now, live with it. Enjoy your kids and leave Jon alone. Misery loves company, do you think? Is all this talk of dating leading up to a special announcement? TLC loves this woman. Why?
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I think her obsession with Jon is because she is a control freak and Jon committed the biggest crime against a controller, he got out and she can no longer control him in a way she could when they were married.
All her digs at him and her games with custody are her way of still trying to control him.
Could not find the interview with Joy Behar. Did anyone see it? Thought she might be the person to really ask the hard questions.
Lynn said...
Admin: Another site is reporting that the ratings were just 1.3 million. For a "season premiere" and all the publicity she did on national television I think her goose is cooked.
Can we only hope?
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A few of the past shows and ratings:
September 6 1.389 million
September 13 1.415 million
September 20 1.605 million
November 7 1.331 million
November 28 1.302 million
Kate's holding her own. She's here to stay.
now the sheeple are trying to say that Jon deleted a bunch of tweets so that is probably going to make it hard to find the "lie"
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Egg, meet face. They messed up and won't admit it.
Maggie, google the word proxy. You will be able to find several proxy sites that are self explanatory once you open them. You may need to try more than one. You will be able to read but not post.
Trust me one visit will be enough.
For the record, I haven't watched in years and certainly not last night.
"thanking" her for their vacations
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I wonder that maybe she used some harsh discipline on the kids--enough that they know they better bow to the great Kate and say thank you--under penalty of severeness!!
I was always amazed back in the old house(s?) when the kids had to sit in time out. They just went, like they were afraid of what would happen if they didn't. (Something Kate would not allow to be filmed?) I was surprised that they weren't throwing more of a fit about it at such a young age. Even my quietest child would do it during her preschool years when she was becoming more independent.
Those kids have no reason to thank Kate for their "vacations!" First of all, they aren't even vacations, and second of all, Kate isn't paying for them. It is their JOB!
I doubt they thank her for them anyway... Kate just wants the world to think her children are grateful to her for selling their childhoods.
1.306 million viewers
This is horrible for a season premiere. Usually the numbers always go down. NOW, it WOULD be a lot less if people who claim to dislike her, WOULD STOP WATCHING. It is just ridiculous they just can't help themselves and watch it. Then come here and other sites, and P&M about Kate. Sorry, I just don't get why this happens. I really don't.
Admin: Another site is reporting that the ratings were just 1.3 million. For a "season premiere" and all the publicity she did on national television I think her goose is cooked.
Can we only hope?
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If those are the ratings for a premiere show that was advertised over and beyond the call of duty, with all of the publicity and photos, what will an episode on grocery shopping and food bank bring? Hopefully, not a heck of a lot. I can't believe that ANYTHING would improve those ratings, except maybe a bar scene with men falling all over her!
TO B:
Joy Behar's interview hasn't aired yet. It will air tonight at 10pm eastern time.
I did not watch last night either, and am so proud of the bloggers here that they "stuck to their guns." Had a wonderful evening watching "Gone With the Wind" without commercial interruption.
Are you saying that the "pro" fansite is blocking me on purpose? I never heard of that. I tried the proxy but I was totally confused. How is everyone visiting her site when she blocks all the haters? (I take that to be us, LOL). Any more suggestions on how to visit her site? Thanks.
I did not watch (actually TLC is banned off our fios) I had a wonderful night in bed sound asleep.
Also I agree with the "rhymes with dwop" critics. From what I checked out they all watched it. I never liked that website. That's why I quit visiting there over a year ago.
Hi Admin. and regular bloggers. I just wanted to say that I love your blog and I read it every day. Once in a while I will post under the name of Chewey.
I am a social worker in Juvenile Court and an advocate for children. I watched Jon and Kate Plus 8 for several years until Kate turned into a monster. Kate's denial about her abusive ways is very classic. I just wish there was more I could do to advocate for the Gosselin children. But until the children are off the air waves, I will get updated from your blog. And I will never, ever, watch her show and boost her ratings by "1".
Maggie said...
There are numerous references and comments about the sheeple and their website. I tried to go to: gosselinfamilyfansite but after a second or two it directs me to a mental health website. No kidding! Can someone help me visit this website that everyone is always talking about. Thanks.
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Say what? Has this happened to anyone else. I went over there and wasn't directed anywhere.
Are you saying someone is watching every ISP that goes to her website and is redirecting "haterz?" How would they know who the haterz are..unless maybe your screen name is IHateKate??
People used to say they got viruses from that site, too, but I don't know of anyway to direct viruses to just certain people who click on her site.
Lynn said...Another site is reporting that the ratings were just 1.3 million. For a "season premiere" and all the publicity she did on national television I think her goose is cooked.
Troy Chula Vista said...1.3 million? After all the time gone and money spent and thats where they are? I bet TLC was hoping for more.. or maybe not, because they sure havent put a whole lot of marketing behind it.
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What publicity? LOL
Troy Chula Vista is right in that they haven't put a lot of marketing behind it compared to what they did with the initial premiere of Kate Plus 8. You would think this would be a big season premiere, kicking it off in Australia, so I'm actually stunned by the lack of publicity on TLC's part. Or has TLC become desensitized by all these Gosselin trips that it's just another Gosselin trip to them, no biggie? Unless they're trying to see how many average viewers will actually tune-in without all the media blitz like they have done in the past. Is 1.3 million viewers good enough for a full season?
Realistically, how can you top an Australia trip? Besides the actual trips, what will continue to make this Gosselin family appealing to viewers? This family has lost that special family dynamics, enjoying each other's company without having to do anything. Watching Jon tickling and playing with his kids on the couch...those were the cute "Aww..." moments that I enjoyed watching.
This just reminds me of the Roloffs and what happened after numerous trips and their European adventure. Oh yeah, they got cancelled.
Ingrid said...I was always amazed back in the old house(s?) when the kids had to sit in time out. They just went, like they were afraid of what would happen if they didn't. (Something Kate would not allow to be filmed?
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I clearly recall seeing Kate with an empty plastic wrap cardboard roll when she was discipling the kids in the old house. Those aren't like the empty paper towel rolls either. They're very dense cardboard roll which is firm and smaller around. I'll try to find the video. She must have used it instead of her wooden spoon.
The reason I noticed it was because she was holding it when she was making one of the sextuplets go to the time out corner and then in the next camera angle it was gone. Someone (Jen?) must have made her put it away. I wondered where it had gone.
Is Kate WINNING? said...
A few of the past shows and ratings:
September 6 1.389 million
September 13 1.415 million
September 20 1.605 million
November 7 1.331 million
November 28 1.302 million
Kate's holding her own. She's here to stay.
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No, I don't think she's here to stay for much longer. Her ratings are not only stagnant, her demos which is what matters most to advertisers are horrible. Kate+8 is an obscenely expensive show to produce. On the other hand, "Pawn Stars" on the History Channel brings numbers like 5-6 million viewers 3 million in the desired 18-49 age demographic. Production on that show consists of filming in the shop and sometimes going to appraise at someone's home or to go to a repair shop. All in the Las Vegas area, all at a minimal cost.
I'm grasping at straws here, the only reason I can think of for TLC to keep Kate around even though her show is hemmoraging might be because TLC made millions and millions of dollars in the beginning of J&K+8 between J&K signing early contracts without representation and the astronomical DVD sales. I wouldn't put it past Kate to remind them of that. Often.
Admin, I would totally understand if you do not publish this post. I just really need to vent for a moment. There is a particular poster at another "Hater" blog (this person also has a "hater blog" but it's not very big and doesn't appear to get as many comments at this one and other blogs). Anyway, this person has on numerous occaisions she has taken swipes at this blog and some of the posters. She has also taken a few swipes at Admin and it's really gotten under my skin!
I'm sorry but we don't have to like each other but come on!! Enough already. Admin and the posters here have never made a comment about this individual. Admin has always tried to be fair and balanced on this blog and I take offense to what this person says about this blog and the people on it.
Sorry, had to get that off my chest.
I haven't watched anything on TLC in a couple of years! Nothing. I boycott that whole damn network, it's gross.
Maggie - here is one example. Open it and type in the url of site you want to visit. Try googling proxy servers or proxy sites, too. You should be able to open something that looks like this. There are many.
http://proxify.com
Thanks Admin.
Why is it the the sheeple have no writing skills whatsoever - not even BASIC writing skills? This is a comment from Tucker's article:
"Kate is a good mom an she trys to do want she can do for the kids to mack the kids happy. the kids dad macks they happy"
"This just reminds me of the Roloffs and what happened after numerous trips and their European adventure. Oh yeah, they got cancelled."
I don't believe they got canceled, did they? Matt had enough business sense not to renew the contract.
"Also I agree with the "rhymes with dwop" critics. From what I checked out they all watched it. I never liked that website. That's why I quit visiting there over a year ago."
Agreed. Then they wonder why the number of posters is dropping dramatically. If you question why people are so adamant about the show ending, but at the same time are contributing to the ratings, you're told that you're welcome to go elsewhere. I'm finished visiting there. They can watch to their hearts' content.
FYI - Kate's (fake) blog on TLC. Old comments are gone. The only way to comment is if you have Facebook. No more anonymous posting to the comments.
Talk about a scrub for an image change! !
No new blog entries though.
Kate Plus 8 (TLC, 10pm)
- 1.306 million viewers
- 0.9/1 HH
- 0.5/1 A18-49
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That's 1.305 million viewers too many....
But, every cloud has a silver lining- her ratings are on a steady decline.
The end is near.
1.306 million viewers breakdown:
1. Sheeple
2. Jon
3. Family that only get to see the kids through the TV.
4. People that fell asleep before the show started and were technically not watching, because they slept through it.
5. Media for reviewing and ratings purposes.
6. Her few friends, if any watched.
7. Some of the kids friends, if the parents let them.
8. Cats and dogs who have their own TVs.
9. Sorry to say, but probably perverts.
10. Babymama and those she paid to watch by throwing a party promising food and beer.
With those ratings, the numbers will keep going down, she's toast.
Admin, I did not watch the show last night, but I would like to read a recap. Could you please write one for us? Please?? Thanks and thank you for giving us a place to express our opinions freely and honestly.
Maggie said...
There are numerous references and comments about the sheeple and their website. I tried to go to: gosselinfamilyfansite but after a second or two it directs me to a mental health website. No kidding! Can someone help me visit this website that everyone is always talking about. Thanks.
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Anyone who has made an anti-Kate statement at BM's blog is being redirected away from her blog and is unable to read unless coming in through a free proxy site.
Linda the Originator has pretty much taken over BM's blog and has a program that will redirect all of the captured IP addresses.
Yes I will recap this mess, it's just been a really crazy week, I've barely been home to sit down with it. I'm actually off tomorrow to help someone move but I'm hoping to recap it then. I haven't even watched it yet--I only want to watch it once so when I watch it, it's to recap it.
Maggie the site has .blogspot.com on the end of it. I also found it in google right away-first one on the list.
I watched Joy the second time around. It was just the same old same old. But you could tell there was no love lost between them. She showed the infamous I'm hungry clip from Alaska and Khate said she was glad she had a house with heat. She showed a clip from DWTS and she said yes I can't dance. Joy said why do they give Tony the ones that can't dance and Khate very generously said they had a lot of trust in him.
Joy brought up botox and Khate said what do you care and Joy said I don't care it is on the page then she tore the page up and shook Khate's hand and said to watch the show and that was it. I missed the first part about Jon. My question is why was she even there.
Yesterday was quite a learning experience for me. I brought over from a zealot site the story that Jon lied. I knew from reading at that site occasionally that they frequently gave a different interpretation to events than I did but I gave them the benefit of the doubt. Our predisposition does sometimes color how we see the world and I knew they were extremely pro-Kate, anti-Jon and rabidly anti-Ellen. I really thought they just saw things differently.
Yesterday, though, they used what I saw as misintrepretation of a ROL story to create a whole post saying Jon lied. When they were called on it they did not offer to show any evidence to back up their position. Instead they all agreed that they had seen a tweet from Jon that he has since erased. Oookay. Maybe. Why no one on this site saw that tweet but all on that site did makes it questionable but I always give the benefit of the doubt. (I also believed there was something to the story of Admin requesting money to help pay her debts--I read it so often and it was stated with such force that I just assumed it had some truth. Sorry Admin. My very bad) So, okay, Jon tweeted that he had had no word from his kids. Then he erased it right after all sheeple read it but just before any non-Kate lover could. Okay. I can't prove otherwise.
What I can prove though is the head Z'er posted that she came over here to read and saw Not One Comment addressing Jon's lies. Nothing. (She said this to prove our bias toward Jon and against Kate.) She then referenced a few of the other issues we were discussing here to offer us up for ridicule. But, really, not one comment addressing Jon Lies? This is blatant, this is egregious. This is a bald-faced lie.
No more benefit of the doubt from me. I thought they were better than thay have just proven themselves to be. I did not know they deliberately lied. Now I do. I leave them to lie to each other. I won't bother reading there any more.
Moose Mania said...
Geez, Hippie. Can you say that in one breath? That's one LONG sentence. Now, tell us how you really feel!!
That IS how I feel, but not about anyone else. I'm really a laid back chick, man. I've said it before & I'll say it again, I have given this woman a hundred chances to redeem herself, NOT that it matters. I know I don't count, nor does anyone else in her pathetic life, even her family.
1.3 million viewers is pretty bad, guys. Especially for a season premiere. Especially for taking a HUGE chunk of money & going to AUS, & for taking huge risk like that on TLC's dime & putting all of their eggs in one basket. I'm sure they were looking for somewhere in the 5-6 million range. And did you notice ratings came out right away? Last year, it took a few days, this time it was the next day. No one cares anymore. Kate is done. All the reviews were negative. Kate is officially known as a BAD MOM. Great title Kate.
Regarding the ratings game. Could someone please explain exactly how this works. Over on another site (that rhymes with plop) a mod has commented that unless a viewer is being COUNTED, it doesn't matter whether or not we watch or talk about the show because it's not going to count in the ratings. This sounds to me like we all can watch and it's not going to affect the ratings one way or another. Is this correct?
I think Maggie has posted over there and got her IP banned as no one else is having any problems.
LOL MS Donna is incapable of her own opinions, has to have someone else get one for her!
For a Season Premiere, those ratings are awful.
If all this show could muster up was 1.306 million viewers after weeks of not being on, then the show has lost its sparkle.
On my local radio station today, they were talking to Morgan Spurloch who is coming out w/ a movie about product placement in TV & movies, so I texted the staion & said, "That stupid Kate + 8 show with that stupid b*tch Kate did it all the time" & they said it! Morgan Spurloch said, "Oh, you mean that chick with the orphaned kids. Yeah, that was a big one, but we're dealing with REAL shows & movies here? And the host said, "When will she go away?" It was AWESOME! Anyways, thought I'd share. Making a sauce for lasagna! :)
"Is 1.3 million viewers good enough for a full season?"
1.3 million is considered pretty good for TLC, especially as it's a stable figure (it hasn't wavered significantly since the specials started last year). Anything over 1 million is good news by TLC's standards, actually. At the end of press releases when they're summing up the network's strengths, they make mention of shows averaging over 1 mill:
"TLC is a global brand that celebrates extraordinary people and relatable life moments through innovative nonfiction programming. A top 10 cable network for women, TLC has built successful franchises around the Cake Boss, Say Yes to the Dress and Police Women brands. In 2010, 31 series averaged 1.0 million viewers or more including Sister Wives, Kate Plus 8, 19 Kids and Counting, LA Ink, and What Not To Wear."
One other small point.. while admirable, not watching the show won't make a difference to its ratings unless your household has a Nielsen set meter. In other words, TLC can't tell if you're watching or not unless you have a Nielsen ratings device installed (and not many households do). To make any impact you'd need to befriend someone who does have a ratings device in their household and convince them not to watch, lol.
Of course that only applies if you're choosing not to watch purely with the aim of lowering ratings. If you're choosing not to watch for moral/ethical reasons then that's different, and admirable.
For anyone interested in going to fan sites they've been banned from even though they may have politely stated their opinion lol, use http://www.vtunnel.com/ it wil hide you're IP and yo can read those sites.But I wouldn't if I were you :D
wow said... I think Maggie has posted over there and got her IP banned as no one else is having any problems.
LOL MS Donna is incapable of her own opinions, has to have someone else get one for her!
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LOL yourself wow. Maybe MS Donna is discriminating enough not to put herself through the agony of watching that drivel. Some of us read Admin's recaps because they are a hell of a lot more entertaining than the crap TLC puts out. Some of us are just smart that way. Think we already have a pretty good idea of our opinions.
The Ratings Game said...
Regarding the ratings game. Could someone please explain exactly how this works. Over on another site (that rhymes with plop) a mod has commented that unless a viewer is being COUNTED, it doesn't matter whether or not we watch or talk about the show because it's not going to count in the ratings. This sounds to me like we all can watch and it's not going to affect the ratings one way or another. Is this correct?
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NOT TRUE. Every viewer counts now. Someone explained before about the digital boxes & such. If someone would kindly step in & take over & explain again, it would be much appreciated.
TINIC, see, they LIE! They outright lied about us not discussing Jon's "lie." We discussed it all day yesterday right here, just read the comments! We searched high and low for proof. I don't get it. Why lie that it is sunny when it's raining out?
And now you know they libeled me, continue to libel me, and continue to state the lie over and over that I begged for money. I never, ever asked anyone for any money, period. It is another one of their lies to make us look bad. They claim we are jealous of Kate, they need to ask themselves, if they are this obsessed with the posters here such that they need to make up lies about us, who is really jealous?
Admin:
They lie. Period. I felt so bad that I accepted, without question, them saying you did ask for money. But if cynical me accepted it how many others did, too. I did just give them a lot more credit than they should have been given. I apologize to you for my gullibility. How very pathetic that they must resort to outright lies. Somehow seems to sully the whole playing field, doesn't it.
TINIC and Admin,
Maybe that blog owner didn't find the Jon "lying" comments here because she's not used to having to read over 30 comments.
NOW they are saying that radaronline changed their story and reworded the article to cover up for Jon lying!!!
She even referenced the post she did that day and no where in what she posted as part of the article did it say anything about Jon claiming he didn't get a phone call from them. No where is there a copy of his "tweet."
They all stated what their interpretation of the article meant and now they are stating their interpretations as fact. It's how they operate.
They will never admit to being wrong.
Let's say just for arguments sake that Radaronline DID change their story. Wouldn't that tell the sheeple that maybe it was wrong? That maybe Jon NEVER claimed that he never got to speak to the children? Maybe the "source" called ROL and told them it was not correct, and that the kids did in fact speak to Jon. Where is the proof that JON LIED?
Sheesh, reading comprehension 1.0. What the article SAID and what it always said was that Jon missed his kids, but that fortuantly Jon was able to call the kids. It went on to say that Jon was worried about the flooding in Australia (as any decent father would be) but that he was reassured by, wouldn't you know it, PHONE CALLS FROM THE KIDS. End of story. How one could possibly deduce that Jon said he did not call his kids out of that, well, I feel bad for their English teachers.
TINC, apology accepted of course! If anything this is a great day for me, they lost credibility and I can now prove that they lie. And it logically follows if they lied twice about that, they have lied about other things, including my begging. If we want to get down to it they lied about a bunch of other stuff, but that I don't care about. Just the begging. I got some quite hateful comments about that when that lie came out, claiming that I used this site as a ruse to beg for money (conspiracy theory much?). I think those who have been here since the beginning or even awhile know now that after running this site since September 2009, you can rest assured there is no "ruse" here. It is what it is. At the time all I could say to those comments was it was not true, they are making up a lie, moreover they have no proof, please believe me. Now today I can proudly say, see? They lied.
Cable shows don't garner the big ratings numbers that the major network shows get. Rarely would a cable show get numbers in the 5-6 million range although WWE Raw on USA got 5 mil. A million viewers or even a bit less will keep a show on cable TV.
According to Bill Gorman of TV by the numbers:
--->Bill Gorman
Posted April 5, 2011 at 4:07 PM
@Dan,
We don’t have complete demo ratings for last week’s cable shows, but Kate Plus 8 would have been the #5 show for viewership on TLC for the week.
Of course she’s no longer the subject of constant tabloid attention, but if she hangs on to those numbers, TLC is keeping her.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/04/05/monday-cable-ratings-wwe-raw-pawn-starsn-being-human-rj-berger-more-2/88408
Proof, you're using far too much logic. Lol.
As you said, assume for argument's sake they did change the story. I also can see a scenerio where perhaps Jon expressed to a friend his fears that maybe Kate wouldn't let the kids call him. This friend runs to Radaronline and tells them this. It somehow gets twisted around to, the kids didn't call him, which is not accurate. Just shows how easy it is for things to get twisted around.
Oh God, I just had a horrifying thought. What if the ratings are so bad that K+8 gets cancelled but TLC decides to do a show about Kate dating, Kate getting remarried (and the wedding prep), then the first year or so of the marriage with Kate, the kids and their new step-daddy? Kind of like what VH1 did with Christopher Knight and Adrian Curry.
In the same breath they say ROL changed the story and how low is that, blah blah, then they basically prasie ROL for the story on Joy's interview with Kate. Confused much?
I think the owner of the Z blog is very disturbed! When do websites change past stories and what was reported? Even the "links" she mentions don't say a WORD about Jon saying they didnt call him. She is NUTS!! Her followers must be so proud.
EGG meet face (as someone said yesterday)
HippieChick said...NOT TRUE. Every viewer counts now. Someone explained before about the digital boxes & such. If someone would kindly step in & take over & explain again, it would be much appreciated.
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I'd like to see some links on that. I’ve seen it stated before that digital TV boxes also count in the ratings but I’ve never found a link to prove that or explain how the info collected on digital TV boxes gets that information out to be counted in ratings.
Here's some info on ratings:
Television networks clearly want to know what people are watching. A larger audience watching a show translates to being able to charge more money for ad time during a show. Television networks that broadcast shows watched by a huge number of people, such as the Oscars or the Super Bowl, generally profit from getting the highest dollar amount for advertisements aired during their shows. For weekly programs, however, television networks rely on a small sample of the population to determine what shows are the most popular.
In the US and in Canada, the company that tracks what viewers are watching for television networks is the Nielsen Company. They choose a representative sampling of about 5000 viewers who will allow Nielsen to record what programs they watch. This is a fairly small sampling of the US population, but people are chosen based on their ability to represent varied populations. For example Nielsen must a diverse sampling of viewers and some viewers who fall into differing age groups in order to get a representative sample.
http://www.wisegeek.com/how-do-networks-know-how-many-people-are-watching-a-tv-program.htm
Here’s a discussion regarding TV ratings and counting “regular” TV viewers (not Nielson watchers):
http://ask.metafilter.com/163980/Do-regular-TV-viewers-get-counted
This article talks about ratings and it sounds like Nielson does them all, not digital tv boxes:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123216430
Ha Ha. I was able to get one email in yesterday telling the Z she was full of sheet.. to post some proof of HER lies about Jon, thats about the time she posted she didnt have time to go back and find them (and the tweets were deleted). Of course today ROL changed the story. Thats it, do what little kids do when they get caught in lies, make up more lies.
My email was blocked when I attemtped a second email to that nut. Too bad there wasnt a Blog Police that rates Blogs on the lies and truthes they spew.
There's nothing wrong with saying I remembered that incorrectly, I'm sorry. I don't get the more lies to try to fix the lie.
Heck I've made mistakes here, other people have, it happens. You fix it and you move on. I don't expect anyone to remember every last little thing correctly about this saga, that would be a bit scary if you could. If you make a mistake, there are many people who can correct you, and they do. And you can also fact check. It's not a big deal to say oops, I messed that up. Be an adult. But now that a lie has been mitigated with more lies, it's beyond repair.
I have only posted once or twice but I tried to go over to the "other" site and was redirected to a mental health site as well. Believe me, I Have NEVER tried to send that site a comment. I also think the numbers for the premier weren't that great. Maybe TLC is just trying to run out her contract until 2012. One could only hope
On Joys interview, Kate says she was followed by the Paps while in Australia, what paps? Wouldnt there have been a ton more pics?
Even IF Jon did tweet that he didn't get a call from the kids and was worried (which from what I recall he never did PLUS no such tweet exists nor is there a screenshot of one) how does anyone know WHEN he tweeted that? Maybe he had heard from them ONCE and was worried again once he heard of the problems in Australia and NZ. Maybe he expected to hear from them every other day and they missed some calls. Jon's haters CLAIMING he tweeted that he hadn't heard from them and was worried does not cover all the scenarios possible.
From what I have seen at that fan blog they are all relying on false memories. They have not provided anything substantial other than one blogger stating something and the rest of them taking it as fact and repeating it.
I did not know they deliberately lied. Now I do.
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It's not surprising. They have a role model who continually lies and (seemingly) gets away with it so they think it's alright for them to lie. That's the mindset of Kate's followers.
On another subject, I just watched a short clip of KG over at Behar's site. Joy asked her why so many people have already turned on her on twitter and Kate said she just can't figure it out. Then to deflect she said something totally unrelated about single moms. It made no sense at all. Flatline interview.
Then to deflect she said something totally unrelated about single moms. It made no sense at all. Flatline interview.
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Kate's been flatlining for some time. She just can't seem to get those brain waves up and running.
If it's not too much of a hassle, could someone please give me a nickel worth synopsis of this Z/ROL/lies/Jon and kids thing that's being discussed. I missed something along the way and I hate being out of the loop! Thanks!
The Ratings Game said...
Regarding the ratings game. Could someone please explain exactly how this works. Over on another site (that rhymes with plop) a mod has commented that unless a viewer is being COUNTED, it doesn't matter whether or not we watch or talk about the show because it's not going to count in the ratings. This sounds to me like we all can watch and it's not going to affect the ratings one way or another. Is this correct?
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I read that, too, about six times. The bottom line, if the article there is correct, is this - whether a show is being hyped on talk shows, (The View, Entertainment Tonight, etc.) or in People Magazine et al., that hype has absolutely no effect unless you are one of the ones being counted by Nielson.
So why hype show(s) at all then if you’re aiming only at the 25,000 Nielson watchers? It really makes no sense to me. However, if Nielson is the only company collecting viewing information, then blog away, read the tabloids and post the links, watch the talk shows, watch or don’t watch Kate. It makes no difference. She has a solid 1.3 million viewers, fans, haters, who knows? Any kind of promotion isn’t helping or hurting
Troy Chula Vista said...
On Joys interview, Kate says she was followed by the Paps while in Australia, what paps? Wouldnt there have been a ton more pics?
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Troy Chula, "Paps" is just Kate-speak for the little voices in her head.
Maggie, regarding the fan site - I'm also banned but can get in by copy/pasting this:
http://bit.ly/epmrLu #kateGosselin
Give it a try. It will open to a March 1st post but scroll down to the bottom and click on "Newer Post" Keep doing that until it brings you up to the newest post.
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