Here's wishing the kids a great seventh birthday party today, even though it has to be filmed.
Saturday, May 14, 2011
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Here's wishing the kids a great seventh birthday party today, even though it has to be filmed.
Here's wishing the kids a great seventh birthday party today, even though it has to be filmed.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 243 of 243 Newer› Newest»Okay, no problem, Administrator. My most recent comment was made just one hour ago. It was in reference to Kate's sister. I pointed out that she is once again asking people for money for a possible adoption. I said that I wondered what she did with the money she received from her previous venture, when she solicited money for a baby from China (then never adopted the baby). I find her actions unseemly.
Re: the gossipcenter article "Making final preparations for round two in celebration of the sextuplets' 7th birthdays, Kate Gosselin enlisted the help of daughters Mady and Cara while making a trip to the local Giant supermarket in Reading, PA over the weekend (May 14)."
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Round two? They celebrated their birthday at Jon's did they not? Is he chopped liver, doesn't the birthday at his house count? This will be round three and....yawn....days after their actual birthDAY. Okay we get it that their turning seven but for love of pete it's just a birthday for six kids not the birth of a new nation or the second coming. Good grief, TLC/Kate if birthdays and travelogues are all you've got left to film, it's time to pack it in.
Based on Clairissa Kreider's latest posting, it sounds like they are adopting through a program at their church. Again, in my experience, adoption programs are a common missionary outreach in the evangelical community. Her writing and continual praise and thanks to God is not an act - I belong to a non-denominational church and many people talk the same way. I understand how fake sounding it can be - it took me a while to get used to it but it is just how some fellow Christians talk and they are being sincere. And I have known others who have used Facebook and Twitter to fundraise for a cause, so again not uncommon. I will say I don't like how this particular site administers their program but that's my opinion.
I guess only time will tell if Mrs. Mertz is a person of character or a grifter like her sister.
AuntieAnn said, "Okay we get it that their turning seven but for love of pete it's just a birthday for six kids not the birth of a new nation or the second coming."
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Just give them a chance. Can you imagine the filming that will be done in preparation for the end of the world on December 21, 2012?
Friends, I don't understand this hoopla about Kate's sister. Who cares? Maybe she did want to adopt a Chinese baby. I have friends who have - and China has clamped down on it. It's not that easy anymore. Now it sounds like she has a found a child who needs a home. I don't like the fundraising either, but it's quite common, especially in churches and when done through Christian organizations. I've had friends do that too - I choose not to donate. And that's OK! She hasn't even received 1% of her goal and probably won't. So what? I don't think that being Kate's sister and having her site exposed makes her evil. Sounds like she doesn't have anything to do with her sister, like everyone else. Her fundraising page is tied to her facebook profile, and most female friends on facebook have listed their maiden names exactly as she has, because it makes it easier for friends from the past to find them. It's very, very common. I love you all, but wish the focus stayed on the kids. This girl didn't ask to be affiliated with Kate, nor do we know her intentions. I don't like fundraising either, it's akin to putting your multiple registries in the wedding invitation (to me). Tacky. But not evil. And it doesn't have a thing to do with the Gosselin kids.
They are all like little baby Jesuses to her followers. And to her, of course, they're cash machines.
Must burn her up that they had the gall to turn SEVEN. What's next, EIGHT? SHEESH.
I pray this time next year the kids will be allowed to live in lovely obscurity. They're going to be so confused as to why all the trips, over the top parties, and attention suddenly stopped, though. The moment they aren't making her money, she's going to drop them like hot potatoes.
Auntie Ann,
Oh no! That's not all there is left to film!
Not by a long shot! We've got trips to the dentist, trips to Farmer Henry's for milk, and
possibly one more venture out to do something that TLC dreams up - perhaps painting classes for the kids that they will never return to do ever again. Or, or....a trip to the library!
Maybe they will be shown reading the letters to themselves Kate wrote for public consumption.
See Auntie Ann? So much to see in the lives of these children. Can you even wait for it? I'm so exhausted from all the anticipation!
Just give them a chance. Can you imagine the filming that will be done in preparation for the end of the world on December 21, 2012?
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Careful Moose, don't give them any ideas...the grifting and hoarding....Oh the humanity!
We researched international adoption a few years back and Ethiopia specifically came up (we ended up adopting older kids domestically out of foster care). Even several years ago, the cost was upwards of $100,000.
I guess what I object to is this--if they don't even have the $25,000 to START the process, much less the funds to help a sick child, why are they even doing this? Even if she got 100% of what they're asking, it would be a fraction of what they need.
Call me cynical, but I can see someone setting something up like this, putting scripture all over it (I totally agree with Kypastor), getting whatever they get and saying well, it wasn't enough, then using it however they wish.
I donate directly to an orphanage....I'd rather do that, knowing for sure where it's going.
In reference to Clairissa wanting to adopt a child-
First of all, I am VERY PRO ADOPTION. All children deserve a good, loving, safe home with a warm, loving family.
I really believe that Clairissa's intentions are good, but her approach is suspiciously similar to the "love offerings" church tour Kate & Jon went on a few years back.
I just don't understand Clairissa's logic of expecting people to pay for her obviously expensive decision. Especially when she & her husband clearly cannot afford it.
The correct thing to do is save your money, then seriously go ahead with your plans. Or maybe ask your own family if they can spare some money to help you out, and then pay them back ASAP.
Hey, there are alot of things my husband & I would love to do, but cannot because we can't afford it at the moment. The idea of asking for donations is very tacky- especially when there are 2 able bodied adults that can work hard to earn that money.
I don't know.... we were raised that way, and our kids have been raised that way as well.
Go figure.
"All that party prep and getting God to send out the sun just so she could make the moneymakers swim in a 68 degree pool for the cameras."
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They were swimming? Yesterday or today? You're kidding me. It was raining and chilly yesterday, and not much better today. We had some storms go through this afternoon, with heavy downpours, high winds, and it was nasty. We lost power for quite some time. Even if the pool is heated, you have to GET OUT of the pool. Talk about purple lips and chattering teeth. I never let mine swim in this weather. We don't even open the pool this early because it's just too darn cool, even with heated water.
Can you even wait for it? I'm so exhausted from all the anticipation!
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fidos -- You're right...I may never take the channel off TLC now! I don't wanna miss even one episode. Maybe Kate will take us inside the laundry room too!! Show us how it's done and all!! Almost as exciting as watching her clean the fridge!!!
Oh dear, don't get us started...lol.
Interracial adoptions can be very tricky. I believe you have to be a special kind of person to raise a child of a different race. I hope Clairissa and her husband are that special kind.
Every one of my nephews and nieces is adopted.
My biological family has been WASP since the beginning of time. 5 of these 7 children are native people and one is black. Only a few of them have related well to having white parents. The others are resentful that their own culture and heritage and the faith of their ancestors were replaced by White everything. It's a sticky wicket for many families. In fact, a couple of the 7 kids have returned to their roots and have chosen to live among "their own". They still consider us their family, but they don't want to live like they're white people. They never made the transition in their hearts. Frankly, I don't blame them. I understand completely. But their parents really don't.
I am well aware of wonderful families created from interracial members. They are beautiful and happy. My experience, however, is that it's very hard, even harder than raising a child of your own race.
I just don't understand Clairissa's logic of expecting people to pay for her obviously expensive decision. Especially when she & her husband clearly cannot afford it.
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Are these donations tax deductible? What happens if she doesn't raise $25,000? Will the money be returned? Something is not right here. What is the name of the agency? I know that cyberbegging is legal, but must these donations be reported to the IRS, or are they tax free?
Pink and Julianna - When both my husband and I, our son and my sister in law all went on foreign missions, we were REQUIRED to fundraise rather than front all the money ourselves. The idea is that 1) you are putting your trust in the Lord to provide for your needs, which Jesus calls us to do in the New Testament 2) You are spreading the word about your cause and you are giving people a chance to get involved. Most fundraising letters do ask for money but they also ask for prayer. I've often given my prayers in these situations, especially when money has been tight.
And yes, Juliana, in my experience these donations are tax deductible. Now to be fair, I've never contributed to a site like the one the Mertz family is using. Our money has always been sent directly to the church, which is what allows the donors to write it off. The church ear marks it for use for our particular trip.
PJ, I agree it's probably time to move on from this topic. I just wanted to clarify that what is happening here isn't all that far from the norm where church related adoptions or missions are concerned. I understand why people are concerned - yes, it does sound an awful lot like Kate and Jon's wish list when the tups were born. One thing to note - I guess Clairissa is a photographer and is offering her services for a donation in any amount to her adoption fund. So she is willing to work to bring this about. I think they're just throwing it all out there and are trying a lot of different ways to try and make this adoption possible.
The bottom line is this, at least for me as a Christian - if this is God's Will, then things will work out to allow the Mertz's to adopt this child. If it's not, then it won't work out.
No Regrets said...
That was the first thing I noticed. With all the platitudes thrown in, "family" "laughter" etc. "see what a great mom I am!". Sorry, that was so set up for her own self image.
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I can't stand that about Kate. The fact that EVERYONE has to know what a great mom she is all the time. Please. If she was a good mom, she wouldn't have to literally spell it out. I have health issues, (i'm 35) & have dealt with them for 4 years now. It's chronic & I do my best. I'm not always AT my best, but my son is always go go go. I have no choice but to try & see to it that I give him a good childhood, as all moms do, but I don't call my friends afterwards & say "Well, just because I'm in tons in pain, I took my son here & there & here & WE did this". That would be ridiculous. That's what Kate does. It's like she has to prove to everyone else, including herself that she is a good enough mother. It is really sad & pathetic.
You have kids because you want to nurture & help mold young minds. Not to pretend that you are mom of the year & play a game every 4 months & then post it on a website or twitter & then have people fawn over you. That is BS. Why should anyone care that Kate played a game w/ her kids? Don't we ALL do that? More than we even want to half the time? LOL She's "Pretend Kate". That is her new nickname now from me. :)
~Hippie Chick~
E-Town: according to Kate's tweets it sure sounds like they got in the pool. She was whinging about the rain, told kids God controls the weather, said it was a POOL party (her emphasis), then just as the party started, a miracle occurred and the sun came out, PTL! (She really tweeted PTL, something I've never heard her say.) So I'm assuming they swam.
I actually hope she's lying about that, since that had to be fairly dangerous.
Donations made to individuals are not tax-deductible. Only donations made to a legally registered non-profit may be claimed for tax purposes.
Money donated to individuals is reportable income, on which tax may be due. Like the vast amounts of cash which flowed through the hands of Jon and Kate in the early years, cash donations may or may not be reported to the IRS as required by law.
A better approach for those who wish to give ethically is to donate through a responsible agency that offers accountability for monies received and spent.
For womever asked about the tweeting going on and the sheeple who changed her mind about Kate. "alwayscole" is a 35 year old married nursing student with one child who got in a conversation with Kelly/"underwalt" on twitter. She'd never heard the story about Kate refusing water to Mady or about the "good bra". Here is some of the back/forth between Underwalt, Alwayscole, Chabils, and a few others:
Underwalt: WOW!! Are you serious? You sound like you're starting to agree with us? Seriously
Walt: You seem more reasonable tonight. What happened? Seriously and I will apologize for being ignorant to you.
Alwayscole: well Thx! I don't like Kate bashing but I DO feel bad 4 her kids, that's all. Didn't realize no friends, etc.
@Underwalt: I don't think people are bashing, I just think people are fed up with the adulation of Kate and the poor kids.
Alwayscole: yes maybe yer right. Never thought of it like that. Again tho..I never realized how sheltered the kids were.
Underwalt: we ALL hope the kids have friends, true friends. That's why we bitch and moan about Kate and the way they live
PrincessDH: K8 has said she controls access 2 kids, cant go2 parties b/c PixR taken, cant attend skool Stuff SameRsn
AlwaysCole: Never rlzd that. That's sad 4 them. That won't last tho. As they get older, she'll have to let them.
Chablis4u: people are fed up with kate
@Underwalt: I know I've been busting on you these past few days but I do give you credit for listening with an open mind.
Alwayscole: don't get too excited! This bday party talk just opened my eyes a bit, & I feel bad! I have a 6yr old
AlwaysCole: I don't understand how she's soo busy w/all that help!
Chablis4u: She's not. She just doesn't want to tweet
SaveGKids: She just wants fans to think she does it all.Those nails donotclean, do dishes etc.
AlwaysCole: I agree with ya there. I always thought it was all just a "show
AlwaysCole: yes I agree. Why say your worn out soo much!
AlwaysCole: I don't get the warn out bit..everybody is..ya know..so what?
HoneytheKoala: I don't think she is busy. Kinda like her "good bra"
@AlwaysCole: Speaking of the good bra, what is with that? I missed that 1!
EmeraldCityJazz: Kate denies having a boob job; claims it's just a "really good bra"
AlwaysCole: So why DID Kate go from tweeting constantly to hardly ever? Any ideas?
SaveGKids: I think TLC/Steve told her to put a lid on it.
Alwayscole: oh is that it? It seemed weird that her tweets just stopped ya know?
Re: the tweets back and forth to "alwayscole" - all of the tweeters made sure that Kate's name was included so she most likely saw them, too. But then again she says she doesn't see anything negative. ha
Re: the tweets back and forth to "alwayscole" - all of the tweeters made sure that Kate's name was included so she most likely saw them, too. But then again she says she doesn't see anything negative. ha
Donations made to individuals are not tax-deductible. Only donations made to a legally registered non-profit may be claimed for tax purposes.
Money donated to individuals is reportable income, on which tax may be due. Like the vast amounts of cash which flowed through the hands of Jon and Kate in the early years, cash donations may or may not be reported to the IRS as required by law.
A better approach for those who wish to give ethically is to donate through a responsible agency that offers accountability for monies received and spent.
Can you even wait for it? I'm so exhausted from all the anticipation!
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fidos -- You're right...I may never take the channel off TLC now! I don't wanna miss even one episode. Maybe Kate will take us inside the laundry room too!! Show us how it's done and all!! Almost as exciting as watching her clean the fridge!!!
Oh dear, don't get us started...lol.
In reference to Clairissa wanting to adopt a child-
First of all, I am VERY PRO ADOPTION. All children deserve a good, loving, safe home with a warm, loving family.
I really believe that Clairissa's intentions are good, but her approach is suspiciously similar to the "love offerings" church tour Kate & Jon went on a few years back.
I just don't understand Clairissa's logic of expecting people to pay for her obviously expensive decision. Especially when she & her husband clearly cannot afford it.
The correct thing to do is save your money, then seriously go ahead with your plans. Or maybe ask your own family if they can spare some money to help you out, and then pay them back ASAP.
Hey, there are alot of things my husband & I would love to do, but cannot because we can't afford it at the moment. The idea of asking for donations is very tacky- especially when there are 2 able bodied adults that can work hard to earn that money.
I don't know.... we were raised that way, and our kids have been raised that way as well.
Go figure.
We researched international adoption a few years back and Ethiopia specifically came up (we ended up adopting older kids domestically out of foster care). Even several years ago, the cost was upwards of $100,000.
I guess what I object to is this--if they don't even have the $25,000 to START the process, much less the funds to help a sick child, why are they even doing this? Even if she got 100% of what they're asking, it would be a fraction of what they need.
Call me cynical, but I can see someone setting something up like this, putting scripture all over it (I totally agree with Kypastor), getting whatever they get and saying well, it wasn't enough, then using it however they wish.
I donate directly to an orphanage....I'd rather do that, knowing for sure where it's going.
Based on Clairissa Kreider's latest posting, it sounds like they are adopting through a program at their church. Again, in my experience, adoption programs are a common missionary outreach in the evangelical community. Her writing and continual praise and thanks to God is not an act - I belong to a non-denominational church and many people talk the same way. I understand how fake sounding it can be - it took me a while to get used to it but it is just how some fellow Christians talk and they are being sincere. And I have known others who have used Facebook and Twitter to fundraise for a cause, so again not uncommon. I will say I don't like how this particular site administers their program but that's my opinion.
I guess only time will tell if Mrs. Mertz is a person of character or a grifter like her sister.
Okay, no problem, Administrator. My most recent comment was made just one hour ago. It was in reference to Kate's sister. I pointed out that she is once again asking people for money for a possible adoption. I said that I wondered what she did with the money she received from her previous venture, when she solicited money for a baby from China (then never adopted the baby). I find her actions unseemly.
Oh goodness, the poor dear is exhausted again. All that party prep and getting God to send out the sun just so she could make the moneymakers swim in a 68 degree pool for the cameras.
If this episode ever airs, folks, that's not the kids smiling and laughing, it's their teeth chattering. (I live in Texas and even we've had too cool of a spring for pools to be comfortable yet!)
As usual, La Gosselin only answers a few pet sheep and ignores the sad desperate ones sharing things with her she doesn't give a crap about.
Her sister posted a new entry on her fundraising page and described her day today: it did not include any tups or birthday parties. She did mention church, and apparently her church knows they're "trying to adopt" so I wonder why she hasn't received more donations?
Going back to the twitter discussion, would someone mind posting the conversation that changed a couple of sheeple's minds? I tried going on twitter to find it myself, but I don't understand how it works (and I'm in my early 20's haha).
Kate's in bed now. Stress this morning. Who wants to bet she's exhausted because it's such a chore to follow along behind the workers to make sure they're doing everything right. A la
the housekeeper episode - "I don't know who's standards THAT would meet!" as she walked off grumbling instead of picking up the little dust bunny herself. Yeah, that'll stress a person.
When do we get to interview those 70 ppl to see how exciting it was for them at Kate's poolside?
Administrator: I've posted 2 or 3 comments on this forum in the last month and none have gone through. I have no idea on why the comments are not being approved for submission? My name is Purple Skies. Thanks for letting me know, if possible.
Part of my professional career involved working with adolescent sex offenders, some of whom were pedophiles. They were able to get away with their crimes because family members did not take them seriously, applying the "boys will be boys" label to their behaviour.People didn't like to think that their young relative was capable of committing an unspeakable crime;and they wouldn't talk about it, in hopes that if they remained silent, it would go away.
In all the years that we have watched the Gosselin kids, I don't recall a time when either Kate or TLC reassured us that the children had been appropriately "street-proofed" or taught "good touch-bad touch'. I am hoping that this was done at a very early age, and that it's being reinforced on a regular basis, especially since to my knowledge there are no police checks done on people with whom they have regular contact.
I think the issue of people who are perfectly capable of supporting themselves who nonetheless play to people's emotions, including religious emotions, to grift money off them, is an important one. We talk about protecting a child who deserves a great home, what about protecting the vulnerable little church lady who is easily scammed by something like this? That said, I don't think harassing them accomplishes anything. I will remind the sheeple of the libelous accusation against me that I begged for donations. Which was patently false and which last I checked was STILL up there. I will remind them they had no problem discussing this about me. So if they try to say this discussion is off limits, I point them to that. I'm just as private as Clarissa but if people are grifting, they should be called out. Only problem was I wasn't. I believe in working for a living.
I was in church this morning as I usually am. Two out of three of our resident celebs were there. And a new one popped up, incidentally someone from a popular Discovery Channel show. Not a reality show, think along the lines of Mythbusters. I wouldn't have noticed but someone pointed them out to me. Apparently they've lived around here for awhile, they may have been going here awhile but I never noticed. No one made a big deal, as usual. None of these celebs are too good to go to church.
Charlene Kolak Kreider
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Victoria Galaspy Happy Birthday adorable kids !!!!
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I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life! Hannah* ... did your 'h' button stick again, Mom? ;)
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I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life! And yes, happy birthday to the precious six:)
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Charlene Kolak Kreider Yep~~I guess it stuck~~"smarty pants"!!
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I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life! Wow, Sinthu! You win the prize for the longest and most descriptive Happy Birthday! :) Thank you!! It was lovely:)
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I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life! Thanks for supporting people that I love:)
Oh and "Guilt by association"---some of us, such as myself, never saw the comments on the fundraising page. Unless you took screenshots, I don't know what they said.
Complete silence from the fans about NAMBLA guy.
Guilt by Association Indeed said
The main "point" was nasty comments about how she's just like her sister. Her sister has nothing to do with this and thus it is guilt by association.
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I read all the comments, too (over two dozen) before they were taken down, and I respectfully disagree. There were many comparisons to Kate, it's true, but virtually all of those reflected the indignation of the commentators over an attempt to fundraise that mirrored Kate's and Jon's so obviously.
Many, if not most, referred to Clairissa's admission that she cannot afford an international adoption. Commenters seemed to universally feel that fundraising a la Kate was highly inappropriate under those circumstances.
The sad fact is that the begging on Clairissa's fundraising page IS very like her sister's grifting. Commentators clearly found this appalling.
The comparison to Kate was not at all out of line, in my opinion. It was an accurate assessment of what Clairissa is doing, and calling her out for following the disgraceful model first used by her sister Kate.
barbee said...
Why are comments against this woman fundraising to adopt considered guilt by association when the main point is if you can't afford to adopt this way, you shouldn't be adopting in this manner? Why are they adopting when there is ANY kind of financial lack in their budget? In that way they ARE like kate, she went through having HOM's will full knowledge that at the time they couldn't even afford their twins.
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I read the comments on her page before they were taken down. That was not the main point made. The main "point" was nasty comments about how she's just like her sister. Her sister has nothing to do with this and thus it is guilt by association. It's perfectly reasonable not to give her money. It is not reasonable to leave hateful comments on her site because you don't like her sister.
If they can't afford to adopt a child and can't afford to raise a child and support a child with necessary items/medical care to assure that child receives the care that he/she needs, then certainly the welfare of that child is being considered by those who deem her guilty by association. It's not all about her and her wants; it's also about the child. Somehow that family just doesn't "get it" when there are children involved.
If it's guilt by association, then it's guilt by association. A family member is known as the queen of all grifters; another family member asks for donations and the financial funding to adopt a child. Like sister, like sister.
Kate couldn't afford the twins, let alone six additional children, but that didn't stop her, and thus the begging in the form of love offerings was initiated. You don't think that her sister's family would go the same route, knowing that it worked for Kate? If someone believes that wouldn't happen, I have a load of clean coal to sell...
Hasn't it for the most part been established that this person is not a guy (language, choice of words) and is possibly Kate herself (disappears when Kate does; reappears when Kate does), or is a TLC planted intern?
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Or sissy Purseboy ?
I have also noticed that sometimes Kates sentences are all shorted with appreviations and the letters are formed together. Then sometimes the sentences are correctly structured with no shortened words.
I think Stevie Boy is curled up beside her on the sofa and they're taking turns Tweeting.
I do know that the same person does not do ALL of Kate's tweets.
"In my personal opinion, people should refrain from projecting Kate's reputation on to her sister.....Because, IMO, this is guilt by association."
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I think 'collateral damage' would be the more appropriate term... And that's just Kate's sister. What are those kids going to have to go through as a result of her grifting.
It's no wonder her parents keep a low profile.
Looks like Jon's got a house now, he tweeted something about it this weekend. So proud of him!
According to another non-fan site this is not Clairissa's first attempt. Apparently earlier she was going for a Chinese baby adoption?? (The site cited her religious blog. No other reference given.)
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