Another tourist has encountered Kate, kids and crew. This time, camping at the Grand Canyon.Will Kate throw a fit and stomp off the campsite? All bets are she sticks it out this time as long as it's all about her.
Friday, July 22, 2011
Working tour of western U.S. continues as Kate and kids camp at Grand Canyon
Another tourist has encountered Kate, kids and crew. This time, camping at the Grand Canyon.Will Kate throw a fit and stomp off the campsite? All bets are she sticks it out this time as long as it's all about her.
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We go to the Outer Banks for two weeks every summer with our entire family and the kids love it. THe one thing they cannot stand is the 10 hour drive!!! Which we usually split into 2 days.
Just how long is this "road trip" that Kate has trapped them on? It is coming up to at least 2 weeks at this point. It must be a nightmare. Especially, if Kate is admitting by her tweets that her standards are being compromised.
Do you think TLC did this purposely to her. Set her up in a confined situation so all of her "Kateness" will come out on film and she will cause another big stir like the Palin episode. Then it could really, really be their excuse to say, look we just can't work with you anymore. This is not good TV. (although, when was it) If she couldn't handle one very organized afternoon of camping, in drizzle, then how is she handling actually being with her children, confined to a small space, 24 hours a day. There have probably already been multiple break downs. I believe they are pushing her for more outbursts and meltdowns and this will either lead to canceling the show, or the curious will want to see her suffer and the ratings will go up. Poor, poor kids to be subjected to this.
Yes, and where are all the pap photos Kate?? Not that I want to see any, but you still tweet that they are all over you, everywhere you go. Don't think so.
I love how she can't be bothered to tweet her fans, but keeps asking them to tweet her. What a joke.
Camping? No way. LOL Really, really camping? Or are they really in an RV? This woman is a walking, talking contradiction. Didn't realize it was 12 days already. They all must be tired. I would be, but I am not young either. sigh
I am sure they will enjoy the GC. Is she going to have another drama walking on that walkway over the canyon? Sure she is!
Jon Ready to Marry Again
http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2011/07/jon-gosselin-ready-to-marry-again.html
Despite going through one of the nastiest divorces in reality-TV history, Jon Gosselin reveals to Life & Style that he's ready to take another walk down the aisle! The reality dad has been dating 24-year-old Ellen Ross for more than a year and see mairrage in their future. "I definitely would not be with her this long if I didn't have the intentions to marry her," Jon, 34, raves to Life & Style. "We're enjoying each other's company, and we're still going strong." But that doesn't mean he's spending less quality time with his brood of eight! "My plan is to enjoy my life by spending time with my kids as well as with Ellen," Jon tells Life & Style.
I say GOOD FOR JON. Too bad Kate can't move on and stop bashing Jon, eh?
"We are not camping people! I'll sing it from the..." ... whatever dramatic thing popped in to her head at the time.
Another riveting episode of "Kate facing her fears"? You really have to be kidding me.
Is this what the show is now? Kate doing stuff she doesnt want to do (for a quarter of a million dollars per stunt) so she can scream and flap and have a tantrum so viewers can be entertained by how she DELIBERATLY frightens her children?
And they are TANTRUMS that Kate throws every 2.7 minutes; NOT "MELTDOWNS"!!
This extended trip seems like it could be TLC's final farewell trip for Khate. I'm sure they will get at least three episodes out of this, like with the Australia/New Zealand trip. The ratings probably wouldn't be as bad as they were for that trip, as people will tune in to see U.S. landmarks and monuments that they haven't traveled to themselves.
There are two things that I'm wondering now. First, is this finally the end of filming? Will they have enough filmed from this trip and earlier this summer to put together enough episodes until it's over (February 2012, we've heard)? Or, will these kids come home from this traveling and filming only to spend what's left of their summer working and filming the dumb back to school shopping episodes?
Also, it's summer and they should be able to spend more time with their father. Is he going to get them for a full week? Or at least maybe a long weekend or two?
12 days and how many miles? That is so sad. Not the trip itself, sounds like fun, but this is the umpteenth working trip for those little kids. Hopefully this is the last hurrah. They deserve to be at home, sliding down the slide into the pool all summer, especially since they paid for both.
TLC is reading the blogs...we suggested back in December they will go during break to Mt Rushmore and the Grand Canyon.We have given TLC ideas,whoever said it on the previous thread was right.We should stop speculating or saying what they could do on the show that might be interesting to watch.Kate has set the record straight regarding many things discussed on this blog.They are reading and taking all sorts of useful stuff.
No Regrets said...
Jon Ready to Marry Again
http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/2011/07/jon-gosselin-ready-to-marry-again.html
Despite going through one of the nastiest divorces in reality-TV history, Jon Gosselin reveals to Life & Style that he's ready to take another walk down the aisle! The reality dad has been dating 24-year-old Ellen Ross for more than a year and see mairrage in their future. "I definitely would not be with her this long if I didn't have the intentions to marry her," Jon, 34, raves to Life & Style. "We're enjoying each other's company, and we're still going strong." But that doesn't mean he's spending less quality time with his brood of eight! "My plan is to enjoy my life by spending time with my kids as well as with Ellen," Jon tells Life & Style.
I say GOOD FOR JON. Too bad Kate can't move on and stop bashing Jon, eh?
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Good for Jon!
Much luck & love to Jon & Ellen.
As for the trip the Gosselins, Ashley, Steve, and who the heck else-
I don't give a rat's a*s.
August 8th will be another busy day for me, happily free of the useless sh*t that TLC is trying to sell us.
Voting with my remote!!!
Lt.Col Catherine M, USMC, retired:
WELCOME HOME.
It can't be said enough. I was anti war but never anti soldier. I too would like to apologize for the actions of the fringe who berated you and your ellow soldier.
Those poor kids must be going thru sheer hell. I have 3 kids and when they were little we drove to Disney. They were 5, 8, and 11. Half way home as I plotted my husband’s untimely demise and I'm sure he was planning mine I swore that would be our last road trip. I kid you...lol! And were both pretty easy going and roll with whatever.
So I can just imagine how Ms. Krawford is handling a road trip in this heat. I just don't understand why she would agree to such a trip...but then again it's me me me time in front of her best friend...the TLC cameraman.
No Regrets said...
"...I am sure they will enjoy the GC. Is she going to have another drama walking on that walkway over the canyon? Sure she is!"
------------------------------------------------Without a doubt! She'll have to "face her fears"....in front of the poor kids, of course. This show is so predictable there is no need to watch it!
I don't believe Kate is truly stuck in an RV 24/7 with her kids. I think she is in there long enough to film some 'organizing problems', and maybe a meltdown and then out to ride in a luxury vehicle by herself (with boobyguard and Jamie?). Editing can make it all look real but only the sheeple believe everything they see on the show. I bet she stays at many resort/ranch/spas along the way and not in an RV bed much. There are ranches that have capability of housing a large amount of people in a huge fancy 'cabin' for a break from the RV too.
Since she is so able to put on the fake tears it will probably be no prob for her to fake a meltdown too. Fake this, fake that, fake everything.
I think with all the retakes to get the right fake film clip that someday the kids will remember some things but not because they had fun. Just because they had to walk up to the edge of a canyon repeatedly. What do they remember of their 15 min. in a corn maze?
Las Vegas next?
So it looks like they have enough film for episodes to last through the end of the year, considering there are those that haven't been aired yet. Was DC Cupcakes shown? I haven't watched for quite some time.
If TLC is reading this blog and taking suggestions, too bad they haven't listened to "Put this show out of its misery!"
I know there are many who are saying that it's over, she's done, she's crying about how she's going to support her kids...but, she just keeps coming back. If TLC was really about to cancel this show, would they take them out West for two weeks?
We have given TLC ideas,whoever said it on the previous thread was right.We should stop speculating or saying what they could do on the show that might be interesting to watch.
Kate's tweeties have also suggested lots of travel ideas. There is no way to know for sure where the idea for this road trip came from.
I added up the miles and time the Gosselin's had spent on the road in the previous thread, but since they've now traveled to the Grand Canyon I'll update the info.
On 7/18 I wrote (edited):
So far it adds up to approx. 600 miles in the 8 days since they were spotted on the plane from Chicago to Rapid City, SD.
7/11 Rapid City, SD airport
7/12 Mt. Rushmore in Keystone, SD
7/14-16 Yellowstone Park in Cody, WY
7/17 Jacksonhole, WY
7/22 Grand Canyon, AZ
Grand Teton Natl Park is 30 miles from their last stop in Jackson Hole. Salt Lake City is on the way IF they go to the Grand Canyon as someone wondered, but that is a longggg 12 hour trip from Jackson Hole and I hope the kids aren't subjected to that one.
SOOOO, to update their approximate miles and hours on the road:
565 miles through Yellowstone and to Jackson Hole + @ 775 miles (past Salt Lake City and Grand Teton Natl Park) to North Rim, Grand Canyon, AZ = 1340 miles. Their drive time just to the Grand Canyon was approx 13 hours!!!
All total, they've been cooped up in whatever vehicle will hold them all for @ 24 hours!!! Can you imagine being in a vehicle with 8-10 kids aged 7-10 years old?????
It's WAY past time for them to go home!
Kate tweets...We r seeing&doing& having fun! U just never no where we will pop up!!! Whatcha all doing? Tweet me updates pls..miss u
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Like anyone but her tweens, teens and spaced out sheeple cares where she will pop up! It's not like all of America is waiting with bated breath to find out where she is! She really is a piece of work, isn't she? Does she think that the paps are out there hiding in the rocks just to see if she will pop up? Speaking of which, where are those pesky photographers? Have there been any photos of her published on this "Rollin' Along With The Gosselins" trip?
If they are going to film, though, thank goodness they are doing it in decent temps. If they were back home, TLC would no doubt be dragging them somewhere in 103 degree temperatures. They've done it before without batting an eye. Think New York City last summer.
Well if they're at the Grand Canyon I'm glad that I'm at the other end of the state! I'm sure they're not hiking to the bottom to camp out because you've got to make those reservations at least a year in advance of the trip. They may be camping at the Grand Canyon but I'm guessing it's not at the bottom. The only way in and out is to walk down or go down by mule train....there are helicopters that will come in if you're sick and need to be medi-vacked out but I'm told that's pretty expensive. I'm sure she'll go on the skywalk and have another meltdown since you're on a plexiglass type of platform over the canyon (I haven't worked up the nerve to do it yet). It's very busy at the canyon this time of year with torists. Nice temps up there right now with very low humidity.
12 days and counting? This is an extraodinary amount of time to take a production this size on the road, and I will say it does surprise me that TLC is putting this much into a show that is by most accounts circling the drain, a show with a hugely unpopular biotch at that. Nice that Jamie's kids are getting a freeby vacay as well, or nice for Jamie, taking a page from the KG grifting manual as she apparently does not have to think about paying for her summer vacation this year. I really hope the older children are enjoying parts of this touring circus, the younger ones must be exhausted. D'ya think we'll get a sighting of KG and Jamie doing the family washing at a laundromat, or does TLC cart a machine around for them - 12 days, lots of clothes.
I remember, as do some of you, our own family driving trip that took us, with three children and a mini-van, one spring break from LA to the Carlsbad Caverns, stopping at some pueblos along the way. All was good for the first half, and then I'm sure we all wanted to fly away on the drive home. I remember we stopped in Las Vegas for two nights of hotel R&R; when the desk clerk could not put our two rooms on the same floor, I remember thinking two rooms in different hotels would be just fine. So Kate on the road for 12 days - poor kids, I'm exhausted just thinking about it. Lots of heat and sun out there, lots of dirt -she must be crazed by now. And no, I have zero plans to watch any of this edited crapola of Gosselin vacation.
Admin, I know you are not fond of posting sheeple nonsense, but this is such a beauty I couldn't help at least asking for your authorization. This is a response to Jon's LifeandStyle "interview". Btw, JO = Jon & Bah = Ellen, JOBAH is both Jon & Ellen.
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XXXX on Jul 22, 2011 8:07:00 AM said... [ ] 17
Also, there has been nothing reported to address the rumors that JoBAH has broken up until now. We know in the past when such rumors started, it was immediately addressed by 'a source close to' on some rag site.
This sounds more to me like Jon was forced into making a statement by BAH. Maybe JoBAH played so many games with the rag mags (demanding stories be rewritten) that they don't want to fool with her any more therefore she had to make Jon address this himself. Or maybe she felt this denial of a fashion would have more impact coming from Jon. Doesn't matter, it's still a very generic and non-committing statement.
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Not sure what grass this sheeple has been eating, it's probably not what you mowed over the weekend. The rumor the sheeple speaks of, was fabricated in her head and then commented on as if truth. Plus, how does one go about getting a "rag mag" to rewrite an unfavorable article
I betcha filming at the Grand Canyon went like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQJH5tZLGis&feature=related
Sorry, couldn't find it in English.
Maybe TLC thinks that maybe a US vacation will better her ratings more than that flop in Australia did. I can't see why, offering her a free trip with a paycheck to rub it in to those who can't afford trips. I could live 10 yrs on that 250K!
Maybe TLC should do a show with regular people chosen out of mainstream USA to take these trips. (and I don't mean those who are applying to all tv and reality shows in hopes of getting rich. ahem) Every day families and a new one each week. NOT grifting greedy ones who think they are above everyone else.
Wow, those kids must be zombies by now. Aren't people dying in the mid west from record heat topping out in some places 110 + degrees or did I hear that right?
I hesitate to say this and will understand if Admin doesn't publish it, but I think our frind "oh yes she does" may be back but this time in the form of Lt.Col Catherine M, USMC, retired(30 yrs).
If I'm wrong, I'm sorry but there are quite a few inconsistincies in her post - the first of which is the fact that she's been retired for 30 years which would put her retirement in 1981 and yet she claims she never put on the uniform after coming back from VN. If you're in the military you wear the uniform, period - even if it's only for reserve duty. As for being an amputee and coming back on a regular troop flight....maybe not. She would have been medivaced directly to a hospital in Germany and then on to the US on another medivac flight. As for not washing? The military was all about looks and presenting yourself well - especially back then for the returning troops. Maybe she's just watched Born On The 4th Of July.
Please see the attached article from 2006 about women amputees in the military. It talks about our current conflict not VN. Here is a telling quote from the article: "The war has created what experts believe is the nation's first group of female combat amputees. "We're unaware of any female amputees from previous wars," said historian Judy Bellafaire of the Women in Military Service for America Memorial Foundation, which researches such issues."
http://usmilnet.com/smf/index.php?topic=1502.0;wap2
Again, I apologize if her story is true, but it kind of rambles on like our friend who has been MIA for a while. As you know, I post here pretty regularly and am an Army wife and fully support our troops.
I agree with Laurie. Methinks the Lt Col is a fraud. Too many inconsistancies. Also I believe a Lt Col would have far better writing skills.
Laurie, thanks for that article. I read her post this am and had the same questions about being 30 years retired, which doesn't compute w/being in VN and never putting her uniform on again.
Nice vacation when you haven't worked for 3 years. Visiting their daughter? Paging karma, paging karma!!!! We need you stat!!
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We don’t know where Casey Anthony is, but WESH-Channel 2 reported today that George and Cindy Anthony were traveling to the Bahamas.
On the noon news, WESH’s Bob Kealing reported that Casey’s parents boarded a chartered jet at Orlando Executive Airport this morning.
“We understand that they are headed for Nassau,”
I've started a post three times now about the post from the female military amputee... I keep revising my post because I am sputtering mad.
If this is truly from our 'oh yes she is' troll, I will be livid beyond words.
HOW DAMNED DISRESPECTFUL TO OUR MILITARY TROOPS to use military service in a fraudulent way to garner whatever the hell it is she's rambling on about.
In my seeing-red anger, I have to wonder if this isn't a sh*tty troll trying to sh*t stir us into a frenzy. Get us all riled up then laugh at us on another blog.
My vote - ignore it!!!
If Lt. Col. Catherine M is real, she has some problems with her ability to write coherently. I doubt she'd have made it to the rank of Lt. Col if she writes so poorly. Therefore, I doubt this person is really what she claims. OH YES I DO........
My second vote - not real, ignore it.
As an Aging Air Force Brat, I fully support every one of our fighting men and women, giving them my utmost respect.
As an Aging Air Force Brat, I think trolls on this site should be banned. Forever.
Admin, I know folks can use different computers, but isn't there a way to ban certain IP addys?
If by some chance this person is what she claims, my apology.
.............. Sorry, I still think someone is trying to stir the shit here for their own entertainment.......
Out west isn't hot, they're mid to high 80s. NE is 101 today at 4pm. They should be on their way home - isn't Jon due another weekend in July. I am sure Mady and Cara are enjoying parts of the trip, but sick of being cooped up with their mother and little siblings. Kids their age are normally dying to get home to their friends and must miss their dad. Although it does seem, they do not have any normal friend relationships.
I do agree, the RV is for Kate's suffering-filming purposes only. No way would she ever shower in an RV. And the TLC crew must have had to do laundry by now. Kate and Steve are in a separate car or RV.
Carrying over the Anthony foundation discussion, seems to me it's raised a surprising low number of funds. That suggests to me that most of America is onto them and not interested in supporting a charity run by a family as questionable and dysfunctional as this one. As stupid as the jury sounded in interviews seems to me most people are not stupid enough to give to this family.
Jon Ready to Marry Again
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How nice it would be if Jon and Ellen decide to go to Hawaii for a REAL wedding ceremony.
Kate will be seething when she hears about it. She'll be telling the kids they are not allowed to call Ellen 'Mom' under any circumstance under penalty of severeness. And I'll bet she and old ratclaws will be tying the knot on a future episode just to one-up her ex.
As for the Grand Canyon trip - there's a bungee jump there too. Those park wardens had better be wearing those super noise cancelling earphones if TLC plans on her taking another dive.
Kate's Kart - while it may be cooler at the Grand Canyon (due to the elevation) it's still hot in other areas of AZ (100+ on a daily basis). We're lucky that we don't have the humidity that you all have back East.
Oh yipeee! The Grand Canyon - a walk on the plexi glass? Didn't the Roloff's do that? TLC can recycle stuff better than any other channel out there. Geesh it would be annoying to have that group pop up ANYWHERE I was on vacation.
This trip IS more and more like NL's "Vacation" at the GC Clark putting his arm around Ellen and nodding a couple of times and off they went...
When my daughter was nine, we went on a 16 day camping trip in 9 western states (all the plaves they've been, but we did it the other direction, coming from Texas). Also with us were two of my closest friends, both science teachers with backgrounds in geology and archeology. We camped in a tent every night for 16 nights. It was WONDERFUL and the trip of a lifetime.
It was also EXHAUSTING AS HAIL. And I only had one 9 year old kid! No camera crew, no one telling us to look there, look here, now laugh, run over there, no boom mikes hanging over our heads, etc. That surely would have pushed us over the brink.
Those kids have to be so exhausted and frazzled they want to die. You get what I call "looked out." After you've seen too many amazing sights in a row, they all start to blend together and you don't care anymore. We saw Carlsbad Caverns, Mesa Verde, Four Corners, the Grand Canyon, EVERY national park in Utah, the Great Salt Lake (I don't recommend it), Yellowstone, the Grand Tetons, Medicine Wheel, Crazy Horse, Mount Rushmore, THEN we saw the Rocky Mountain Narional Park, the highest peaks we had seen. But by that point, we were like "cool, they're pretty, let's go." That's how worn out you are, and like I said we didn't have cameras in our faces all the time.
Watch, as soon as they get back, she'll ship eight irritable exhausted kids off to Jon to deal with, mark my words. Then they'll just have a few weeks to recover before school starts, UNLESS she gets to drag their tired asses all over somewhere else. At least a few of those kids will be adults who NEVER travel.
Oh I'm sure whomever watches will get to see Her Royal Hiney complain about how hot it is while she struts around the GC wearing a halter tops complete with side boobage pouring out...and of course the hooker heels with short shorts.
Wonder what she will screech and scream about this time?
She thinks she's so darn cute and funny when she does that. Barf.
I too had/have doubts about the post from the alleged retired Lt. Col. Nurse. The syntax in her post is just too similar to "oh yes, she is" to be a coincidence. I'm with Permanent Name and others. Ignore the troll and maybe it'll leave.
Jon had the kids over the 4th. It's coming up on 3 weeks since the kids have been with him, and they are going to be too exhausted when they get back to want to do anything but sleep. So Jon gets kicked in the gut again by TLC/Kate/ignorant judges. What a travesty!
I seriously doubt that they are traveling in an RV. I don't see how one could be big enough to hold 10 kids 10 and under, 4 adults, plus the crew. My guess is that they've got one of those chartered tour buses. Some of those are pretty luxurious.
readerlady
I want to address the crazy post from the "Lt. Col." woman in the other thread. I'm an Army vet's wife, and her whole post smelled fishy as hell to me. What woman was an amputee from Vietnam and in the Marines?
Read this: http://www.vietnamwomensmemorial.org/pdf/mstremlow.pdf
The 36 or so women Marines who served in Vietnam (you read that number right, and that was for the entire war) stayed in hotel-like quarters, and NONE were harmed or lost limbs. They were not in combat, but support positions.
Lying about military service is despicable. The tone reads just like our resident nut who seems to like making up all kinds of wild stories.
Readerlady, I bet you the kids are in an RV with Ashley, the camera and production crew are in another RV, and Kate, Jamie and Purseboy are traveling separately and far more luxuriously.
I agree with everyone who believes the Gosselins are on a luxury tour bus, and not an RV. This just rubs me the wrong way and I would never, ever watch Kate and her crew filming this tour of the West. That woman will probably NEVER take those kids on a trip/vacation with her own dime. They will continue to "sing for their supper" or stay home. This just gets sadder. Whatever Kate wants, TLC comes up with. February 2012 can't come soon enough! End this insanity, TLC and show us another family who truly need your help and will appreciate it. Better yet, spend some money on real talent and watch those viewer numbers rise quickly!
Man You guys are sharp regarding that Lt post! Wow. Hard to believe someone lying about military service. Geeez great catches all of you !! I didn't use the math. Man o man. Idiotic sheeple or one heck of fraud.
They love to plant posts on the blogs and brag about it to their friends that we "fell for it."
Meanwhile, they fall for the biggest grifting wench of the century.
I have heard that at least Clarissa's kids see the grandparents. Jon said they are just not involved with the families, that doesn't mean they never see them. I think if he were trying to say they never see them he would have just said that, the family has no contact with them. Instead he said uninvolved. To me an uninvolved Grandparent means a Grandparent you see occasionally, like at a function, but who never offers to babysit, never stops by for dinner, never has you over for dinner, and sometimes misses important events like birthdays and holidays. They are made to sound like "deadbeat grandparents." There when it's convenient for them. I'm basing this on the clues we've gotten from Kate and Jon, I really don't know for sure.
Fell for it? Oh please you all sniffed that out like blood hounds. If they want to have fun with folks they should go troll Mothering.com forums. It took those ladies a week to figure out their troll. Amateurs!
I don't get the fun in that anyway. Can't they go play marbles or go for a drive or something for kicks?
ADMIN Just read a new article on the Orlando Sentinela. The Anthony's attorney is now saying they are not only keeping their original foundation, but starting ANOTHER one called Caylee's Fund. He says this will concentrate on "grandparents rights" and passing the CAYLEE LAW.
Another article Called "In Casey's World" lol
WFTV-Channel 9’s Mary Nguyen reported that George and Cindy Anthony, Casey’s parents, are setting up a foundation called Caylee’s Fund to focus on grandparents’ rights. Mark Lippman, the couple’s attorney, told WFTV that the Anthonys plan to be the nonprofit’s officers and draw salaries BECAUSE THEY ARE UNABLE TO WORK. (caps are mine) Nguyen said the new nonprofit would be separate from the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, which will remain active"
the site is going up now, http://cayleesfund.com/home Not finished yet. These people are incredible. Look at the write up so far on the site. LOL
Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...
This extended trip seems like it could be TLC's final farewell trip for Khate.
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I said the same thing on the other thread!! Maybe it's the SERIES FINALE!! The Gosselin's Do America & Say BYE BYE!! One can hope??
~Hippie Chick~
"Baa baa sheeple games said...
They love to plant posts on the blogs and brag about it to their friends that we "fell for it."
Meanwhile, they fall for the biggest grifting wench of the century."
VERY well said !! And so true.
http://userpages.aug.com/captbarb/femvetsnam.html
This is the second sentence of the article, and it goes on to give other some statistics:
What is truly unconscionable in the annals of American military history is the fact that little or no data exists on the women who served and, yes, were injured or killed, in Southeast Asia during the Viet Nam era.
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I don't know if that poster if telling the truth or not, but I think she should be given the benefit of a doubt
I don't know what they mean by "grandparents rights." As much as I fully believe that a child should have grandparents in their lives (as long as they are appropriate, not abusive) I do not support grandparents having rights in court or rights above the parent (absent being appointed the caretaker of the child due to abuse, or death of a parent).
Let's assume that Kate's mother is as toxic as she sounded in her "posts" if that was her. I think even someone like Kate needs to able to estrange that woman from her children without a court of law stepping in. The bottom line is Kate is their mother and should be able to choose whether the children should be able to see their grandparents. We may not like it, we might not agree, but it's a parents right to keep people they deem inappropriate away from their kids. Is Kate failing as a mother in many other areas, naturally. But she may not have done so bad with cutting off the grandmother.
After reading today about the tragic events in Norway, I guess I care even less about reading anything about the TLC Traveling Gosselin Grifter Circus. And if you were to ask KG, she would squeal or tweet "Oh Norway, I've always dreamed about going there." Twitidiot.
I was equally disturbed about the bombing in Norway, and also a bit closer to home, shocked to hear Arnold Schwarzenegger's son Chris apparently was in a bad surfing accident and broke several bones and a collapsed lung. The word is today he's going to make it thank God. Chris played on the same roller hockey team with the son of a good friend of mine, they were very involved with several Pacific Palisades sports and we ran into them all the time and darned if Maria and Arnold weren't front row at all his games, the bodyguards discreetly standing by the door.
I was thinking maybe sometimes things like this happen to wake parents up when they're screwing up their lives with messy divorces. Now that they've brought kids into it, it's about Chris and his siblings and getting them through this, not about the two of them. Praying for Chris to get all better and back on the roller hockey rink.
Oh I just read that Maria was at the beach when the accident happened, which doesn't surprise me at all because whenever I saw her she had those boys by her sides. It's a given most parents would be with their kids, but not in Nanny-town.
How can anyone say that nurses or any women, like the Red Cross volunteers send to VietNam weren't in harm's way?
We have women who support the troops in Iran and AFghanistan getting killed in the IAD explosions just like the men.
Someone better tell that person who had a web site that women have never been given credit for all they have done during War and in War from the beginning of time.
Did anyone know that women flew planes that were made by the women in WWII in the USA overseas? This is a fact.
I don't doubt that Lt Col Catherine was saying something coherent. I also say Welcome Home as I had brothers who have served and weren't Welcomed Home.
There are many here that get carried away with their anger about Kate. No, she is not likeable, she is not respected, she is not believed and she is not a good or even a great mother. Everything she told us at the beginning of her first few years on TV was a lie, but I don't feel sorry for Jon either. I think he is a weak person who feels that he has us all in his pocket like "look, blogs about people who hate Kate" but I don't think he is any better, he made out okay with $$ and he could fight for his kid's and their custody, if he wanted to.
But as I started to say, some of the people who are regular posters do get carried away with the hatred for Kate and she laughs all the way to the bank.
Somehow, someway, she will be on TV and we will hate it but we don't have to hate each other or disrespect each other either.
I rarely post but I do know that many women who served in VN and who were nurses were injured and who lost limbs, suffer PTSD to this day and only recently get treatment for Agent Orange as it was only approved a few years ago by the Senate for our service personnel in VN.
Men are not the only persons fighting the Wars, there sure as hell are women involved.
So Peace Lt.Col and glad you were able to stay in the service and get your benefits because so many from the VN war did not get their benefits until the last 10 or so years.
Thank you for allowing this to be posted.
Retired Lt. Col. Nurse is definitely a troll. She claims to be a Marine, and a Nurse. THE MARINE CORP HAS NO MEDICAL PERSONNEL! Medical support for the Marine Corp is provided by the U.S. Navy. I didn't pick up on that when I read her initial post. It wasn't until I read the posts here and twigged to the fact that she was claiming to be a retired Marine that the light dawned.
Dallas Lady - You may be right that the kids are in an RV with Ashley and Kate/Purseboy and Jamie are in another vehicle. It'll be interesting to hear about when the episode(s) air. Those are recaps I'll definitely look forward to reading.
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The news about Norway is horrific. I have waited and waited for updates and NOTHING on HLN. The news earlier did say the think is Islamic terrorists. geeeez
Let's see brand new Jeep, trip the Bahamas on a private jet. The jet and trip supposedly donated by a "supporter". The Jeep? All this while on disability for depression. Cindy, George AND Lee. LOL
Norway update from CNN: 90 people hospitalized and 7 dead in Oslo.
CNN update: a 32 y.o Norwegian has been arrested. He was observed near the site of the bombing in Oslo and caught at the youth camp where 10 people were killed. Unexploded bombs were also found.
@ No Regrets
My point exactly! You forgot to mention the racks of new clothes $indy and $eorge have 'acquired' House is now OUT of foreclosure Something stinks in the 'A' household and it isn't rotten garbage in the trunk!
And the "Caylee'sfundcom - as well as $eorge & $cindy being directors, so are LEE and MALLORY!
OSLO (Reuters) - A bomb ripped through Oslo's central government district on Friday and a gunman dressed as a policeman then opened fire at a youth camp on a nearby island, killing at least 17 people altogether.
In the biggest attack in western Europe since the 2005 London transport bombings, seven died when the bomb exploded in the Norwegian capital in mid-afternoon scattering glass, shattered masonry and twisted steel across the streets.
Shortly afterwards, a gunman opened fire at the youth camp of the ruling political party on Utoeya island, north-west of Oslo. Police said at least 10 were shot dead as they fled shooting on the small, wooded island. The island was evacuated and police found undetonated explosives.
OT but...UNREAL what happened in Norway...My thoughts & prayers are with all.
~Hippie Chick~
I think this other side crap needs to stop. It's all centered on attacking a poster here, which is one of the FEW rules admin has. First someone attacked her just for calling herself Hippie Chick, then suddenly we get this completely implausible story from someone just to slam the people (some were hippies) who insulted returning veterans from Vietnam. Which is ludicrous, since I bet Hippie Chick was a small child or not even born then.
I'd like to respectfully say that whoever (same person?) has it out for Jenna Does/Hippie Chick needs to knock it off and either get back on topic or stop posting here. The personal attacks are crazy and out of line.
Also, posting under different names pretending to be different people isn't fooling anyone.
Teresa said...Yup they are getting some money from somewhere alright. Might be an advance on their movie or book. LOL Correction too, their attorney said the new site will be Cayleesfund.ORG not .com so that leaves the question... who is making the com site? Wow Casey world indeed.
Someone better tell that person who had a web site that women have never been given credit for all they have done during War and in War from the beginning of time.
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Did you know that there are over 400 documented cases of women masquerading as men, in order to become a soldier in the American Civil War? One such woman is buried in Mississippi under her male assumed name. She fought valiantly for the Union for a few years before she was taken by dysentery. Even in the hospital, she still wasn't discovered to be female. It was only from her letters, that she sent home to her parents, that they discovered who the soldier really was.
Amen Dallas Lady, Amen. I'm almost sorry I called her (the LTC NOT Hippie Chick) out on her post.
Just posted this on another blog and wouldn't post it here if Cindy and George hadn't been mentioned here:
"If the Anthonys sue John Bradley, then they are definitely just in this for the cash and nothing more, and they will become just as hated as Casey. How hypocritical of you to try to turn this around on Bradley when you lied under oath and perjured yourself. And to whomever mentioned Cindy’s disability payments, she’s already receiving them…I agree that she’s milking that system, too…just plain immoral. She’s perfectly capable of working until retirement age. If anyone should be sued, it’s Cindy for lying to Law Enforcement, getting rid of evidence, perjuring herself under oath, and costing the taxpayers millions of dollars. Quit while you are ahead, Cindy. The American Public has no more tolerance for your lies and manipulation of the government, law enforcement, and the legal system in order to pad your own pockets. You are despicable. If, however, you want to tell the TRUTH in an interview, I might regain an iota of respect for you."
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Retired Lt. Col. Nurse is definitely a troll. She claims to be a Marine, and a Nurse. THE MARINE CORP HAS NO MEDICAL PERSONNEL! Medical support for the Marine Corp is provided by the U.S. Navy.
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They are right!!! I am active duty Navy- Navy provides the medical services for the Marines. The Marines are actually branched off the Navy many years ago and still fall under the Dept of the Navy, so that is why medics for the Marines are actually US Sailors, Corpmans (HM) they called if enlisted, and the Officers are the doctors and nurses. I am happy to verify my active duty status, scanner standing by :) Ok, back to the thread.
JudyK said...EXCELLENT post. Most people are appalled they would even consider suing. Just how was she hurt? Or Geo? IF they do, perhaps she CAN be held responsible for perjury. It WOULD come out.
Everyone have a great evening. Thanks admin for letting us post the OT posts.
Back to the G8 traveling side show.....even if they are all on a luxury tour bus they've got to be getting cabin fever being couped up with each other for so long - and I'm talking about the kids here because there's no doubt in my mind that K8 is on her own luxury bus so she doesn't have to deal with all the problems of cramped quarters. When I was a kid (there were 7 of us) our Thanksgiving trip to Grandma's house seemed like it took forever when in reality it was only an hour away. I commuted to NYC from Jersey (30 minutes) every day for school and work (before I got married) and the bus gets old. Granted it wasn't a luxury bus but it was a decent bus and a bus is a bus is a bus you can't get away from anyone because you're stuck until the bus stops.
Thanks for your service Butterfly - I don't need any proof of your status. I'm sure you've got the CAC card just like me only mine is not for active duty!
Laurie, I'm glad you did. Maybe whoever this delusional person is will eventually figure out we won't fall for her crazy stories and go away.
Anyone can say anything on the internet, but they need to realize stories can be checked out.
I think it was an attempt to derail conversation about Kate. Ironic thing is, even the paps seem to have lost interest in her, why no pics from this giant tour of the Western U.S.? LOL. Because agencies probably pay hardly anything for pics of her anymore.
I think he is a weak person who feels that he has us all in his pocket like "look, blogs about people who hate Kate" but I don't think he is any better, he made out okay with $$ and he could fight for his kid's and their custody, if he wanted to.
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He has tried and he has gotten shot down every single time he tried. It takes resources in the form of big bucks to fight this, and she is in the position financially to challenge him every stop of the way. There is a point where you know that you will be defeated no matter what you do, and I would imagine after Jon fought the good fight to prevent the kids being taken out of school to film in Australia, that Jon finally conceded that he had reached his limit.
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I hesitate to say this and will understand if Admin doesn't publish it, but I think our frind "oh yes she does" may be back but this time in the form of Lt.Col Catherine M, USMC, retired(30 yrs).
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I would bet the farm, including all of the livestock and equipment, that this is the "oh yes she does" poster. No question about it. I looked at the sentence structure, and although the signature phrase is missing, there are other misspellings, punctuation, and language use that is exactly the same (not giving it away right now - I want to see if this person posts under another name). But, the kicker is that one of the "jobs" this person held and previously admitted to (on the other site) is being associated with the military, either in personnel, or the medical field! This, of course, is in addition to the variety of other positions currently held within the state, primarily Philadelphia. Is it a coincidence that, of all the cities in the country, Lt. Col mentions her hometown of Philly, and the "oh, yes she does" poster also allegedly "works" out of that area?
For the past 6 months or so there doesn't seem to be any tweeple out there interested in defending or explaining their position about why Kate is the greatest. Their tactics are completely reduced to either trying to derail or distract things--either by posing as someone they are not, or attacking posters, or the old suggesting that you cannot really know that so you have no right to say that (which, goes both ways for them, no?).
Kind of like when politicians have to swing below the belt and attack the other candidate, you know that they have nothing and in fact, are usually the weaker candidate.
I hope I'm not feeding the troll, but I printed the court docket awhile back, which shows Jon went to court again and again and again, over and over and over. I quickly counted it up a whopping THIRTY-FIVE court dates for one nine month period, be they appearance or non-appearance. Believe me that's on the high side.
http://www.realitytvkids.com/search?q=court+docket
Jon was shot down. Judges in this part of the country heavily favor mothers (if you have a uterus and can breathe, you get custody) and he lost. At a certain point, you have to accept that you lost and put it behind you and try to do what is best for his kids. I do not believe it is in these children's best interest to continue to drag their mother to court another 35 times. Kids that age are well aware of court and it's stressful. I know of kids who throw up every time they hear Mommy or Daddy has to go to court, and other negative behaviors. So sad.
If Jon continues to take these same issues to the judge again and again, he could also be held in contempt. After 35 hearings, the judge has ruled Kate is in charge.
He's doing what he needs to do at this point, getting himself situated with a stable job, a stable relationship (he's really sticking it to the naysayers who said this would never last), a stable house, and so on. He may be slowly building himself back up to come back to court sometime in the future guns blazing.
Yep, you nailed it, Admin.
So are you going to watch and re-cap August 8? I honestly don't know how you can watch it. Ug.
"IF they do, perhaps she CAN be held responsible for perjury. It WOULD come out."
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The state has the proof in the form of testimony from the chief compliance officer where Cindy works. She was at work that day. However, the state has announced that they will not charge her with perjury.
"Mark Lippman, the couple’s attorney, told WFTV that the Anthonys plan to be the nonprofit’s officers and draw salaries BECAUSE THEY ARE UNABLE TO WORK."
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Why can't they work? Neither one of them? Are they also going to collect social security disability? It's tragic what happened, but playing martyrs by grifting and scheming is so unbecoming. The public will see through this, but I'm sure Nancy Grace and her twins will continue to cry for Saint Cindy.
I hope I'm not feeding the troll, but I printed the court docket awhile back, which shows Jon went to court again and again and again, over and over and over. I quickly counted it up a whopping THIRTY-FIVE court dates for one nine month period, be they appearance or non-appearance.
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Thanks for looking that up, admin. And still there are those who say that if Jon really cared about the children, and if he wasn't such a wimp, he would take her to court and fight for the children. Perhaps they could suggest a bulldog attorney for him because he certainly hasn't had luck with the ones he's used, or the judge or judges who got the case.
Admin, you should permanently post that on the side, with the links to the post regarding how the kids are being exploited and abused. I've always hated how after the divorce so many people were/are vicious toward Jon, telling him to find his balls, grow up, etc. If you have to little money and are a father/man, it is incredibly hard to get custody. Then add in that he is essentially fighting TLC, and that we have all seen judges make absolutely insane rulings, and, well, I feel sorry for the Dad.
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Kind of like when politicians have to swing below the belt and attack the other candidate, you know that they have nothing and in fact, are usually the weaker candidate.
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On twitter one finds a battle between the haterz and the sheeple. It seems that this mud slinging back and forth is more important than the sheeple defending Kate and the haterz hating Kate! Kate, the show and the kids are secondary. Sniping between the two factions seems to be where it's at!
In my opinion Kate knows the Alaska episode was probably the worst mistake she ever made for the good of her "career". She is bound and determined to prove that it was an isolated incident and she only reacted that way because of the conditions. She camped in New Zealand/Australia? and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if she's doing it again. She's so darn predictable.
Hey Khate!!
How's that 'giving back' thing working out for ya?
Yeah, that's what I figured.
In Kate it might very well be trying to redeem herself about the camping and also to subtly suggest it was really Sarah Palin who set up a bad camping trip and not Kate. Typical.
But for TLC I think they are actively trying to put her in situations that will make her crack and get good footage. A going on 13 day camping trip is a pressure cooker designed to make Kate explode. The hell with the kids they just want to set Kate up for good footage. The whole thing is sick.
I agree that slamming other posters here is wrong, and I don't do it. I don't see it done by many others either. In fact, it is so rare as to stand out like a blinking red light...
But when someone LIES about being in the military to gain sympathy or to advance other agendas, or when someone jumps on a cool, rational, empathetic, articulate long-time blog buddy here (Hippie Chick, this is for you, babe!) they invoke my ire!!!
They deserve to be called out, big time. I think it's admirable that rebuttal posters have been polite and respectful in their replies.
After recognizing them on blog for what they are, the best thing to do is ignore them, ignore them, ignore them.
It is interesting when legitimate folks can point out the factual errors though, such as the fact that Marines don't have nurses... big thank you for those who took time and effort to fact check.
A big fat gotcha to the troll......
I wish I could snap my fingers and make troll posts evaporate...
Someday soon this little episode will show up on a blog from the dark side and they will all be giggling about how they got us going.
Ignore, ignore, ignore.
OH, and one final thought on the IQ of the sheeple - obviously they are not smart enough to research their facts first. Hmmm.... kart wouldn't be smart enough to pull this off, would she?
Another big gotcha.....
Ah well, off to read a mild and comfortable book by Nancy Thayer - summer beach reads are such a comfort amid chaos........
OH, and one final thought on the IQ of the sheeple - obviously they are not smart enough to research their facts first. Hmmm.... kart wouldn't be smart enough to pull this off, would she?
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The "oh, yes, she does" poster and USMCR person isn't a sheeple - it's just someone who seeks attention and creates various jobs and has insider info about Kate. Then again, it could be a sheeple, just doing some stirring, but I kind of doubt it. I've stopped trying to figure out the motives of trolls.
The motive is attention, that's all it is. They aren't necessarily on either side just found their way here and trolled.
You need to see Catfish to put a face on a troll, it will make you feel sorry for them. It's essentially about a young man who actually tracks down the 40-something woman posing as a young beautiful girl in love with him and delves into her real life--which was nothing like the exciting lifestyle she had dreamed up on the internet.
I expected to laugh but just ended up sad.
Admin said..."But for TLC I think they are actively trying to put her in situations that will make her crack and get good footage."
I totally agree and have thought this myself. The kids are adorable but let's face it there's not too much left to film out of them that the viewers haven't already seen a few times. TLC knows what their draw is now and are going to set it up as often as possible. I'm sure a lot of people aren't watching anymore to see the kids, they are watching to see Kate's meltdowns. The saddest part(next to the kids being used in this)is that even Kate knows this and chooses to humiliate herself anyway to keep the money coming in. It will be very interesting to see once the show ends just what she will resort to in order to stay in the public eye and make money. I'm thinking it's going to be just about anything that she is offered. Heck, she's already doing infomercials.
Gosselin Gossip mentioned the RV trip with Roloff family. I had forgotten about that. I only saw the 1st episode, no reason to keep watching a family on vacation in an RV and I loved that show. I remember how the RV was weaving on the freeway! Nope, do not care to see any family on tv make trip like that, let alone one family after another. I agree with the other posters who are opting to pick a book instead.
Auntie Ann's post: Kate will be seething when she hears about it. She'll be telling the kids they are not allowed to call Ellen 'Mom' under any circumstance under penalty of severeness. And I'll bet she and old ratclaws will be tying the knot on a future episode just to one-up her ex.
(1) What, exactly, is penalty of severeness? Dressing down, time our or severe beating?
(2) Kate and purse boy will announce their engagement within two weeks just to one up Jon and Ellen. TLC will announce the surprise of all times on Kate plus 8 and it will be that Kate and purse boy have decided to announce what everyone has speculated.
On another topic has anybody noticed that Semper Fi sounds like the ex-Marine with 30 years service? I am not much for 'tells' but there was a significant one in hers. It wasn't specifically oh yes I do but pretty darned close
Hey TLC- we all see right through what you are trying to do! Sincewe al know that you are scripting this show and trying to put Khate in these precarious positions- well, we're just not buying it and it's PATHETIC! How is is that all the other families of multiples are making it without being on TV? I can bet the parents salaries put together are not near what TLC is paying Khate and lo and behold- they ALL manage! Geesh!
Gosselin Gossip wrote (There was a recent deadly accident with the Canadian Cash Cab crew who had just finished filming for the day in Vancouver.)
Cash Cab, with Adam Growe, is filmed exclusively in Toronto, Ontario. As far as I know anyway.
Anytime we hail a cab we hope it's Adam's toyota that pulls over.
Oh, Catfish, was........hard to put into words the emotions it evoked. Wow, I had not made that connection, but some of the sheeple could be like that lady in that documentary. Yikes.
All total, they've been cooped up in whatever vehicle will hold them all for @ 24 hours!!! Can you imagine being in a vehicle with 8-10 kids aged 7-10 years old?????
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It's way past time to go home,
I can't remember anything said about them travailing in a motor-home the whole trip. I just can't see Kate putting up with such cramped quarters..no matter how state of the art is. It's just not her style. Even though she tweets that her organizational skill are being challenged daily, I think that just pertains to not being able to have her way completely on this trip. Nine days is way too long for her to be patient. She has proven that she can't put up with any discomfort. (i.e. Sarah Palin) She didn't even make it through that flight with out complaining and crying. I think they fly to the nearest destination and then travels the rest of the way in a motor-home. I could be wrong. Could you check that and let me know how people know that, Please? Thank you.
Wouldn't it be funny if Kate went through one of the towns where she promised her sheeple "she would go see them if her job took her there." Ooohh, what an uproar that would cause with her fans. Of coures when your as blind as her sheeple, you make up excuses as to why she couldn't make if. You know, like "she couldn't come because she is too busy filming." Anything to protect their precious god-mother.
Long Time Canadian Lurker said... Gosselin Gossip wrote (There was a recent deadly accident with the Canadian Cash Cab crew who had just finished filming for the day in Vancouver.)
Cash Cab, with Adam Growe, is filmed exclusively in Toronto, Ontario. As far as I know anyway.
Anytime we hail a cab we hope it's Adam's toyota that pulls over.
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FYI Long Time Canadian Lurker, That was true up until last Tues (July 19)...it was the first time Cash Cab was filmed in Vancouver... They had just finished filming a segment, and one of the production crew was driving the cab back to a storage facility when the accident happened.
http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCATRE76I7MP20110719
Bluenoser said...
On another topic has anybody noticed that Semper Fi sounds like the ex-Marine with 30 years service? I am not much for 'tells' but there was a significant one in hers. It wasn't specifically oh yes I do but pretty darned close
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Yes, I see it also. I just looked at both posts side by side and there are MANY similarities. This crap is ridiculous and has to stop.
This whole fake as hell "reality" show is a complete farce. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they are flying to different destinations and staying in hotels. If there is a luxury RV, it's just part of the script and used on the "set". They aren't really traveling in it or sleeping in it.
The only thing is that there haven't been any reports of seeing K+8 + helpers + booby guard/purse boy + film crew in any hotels. Then again, don't you think if this large group was actually RV'ing across the west that someone would be tweeting or blogging about spotting them in the RV parks they'd be overnighting in? A lot of stuff about this trip is just not adding up.
Bluenoser, the 'penalty of severeness' came directly from Kate. I believe they were moving into the new house and she showed the kids her room and said they were never to enter it under penalty of severeness. I remember thinking, "What if they have a bad dream or what if there's a frightening storm?" So you'll see that phrase thrown out there sometimes, a direct quote from Kate.
I would love to see film of:
10 children singing "100 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" - with Kate in the front seat - starting at Mt. Rushmore and ending at the Grand Canyon. Then, for a change of pace, singing "The Wheels on the Bus Go Round And Round" all the way home.
I'd buy a bag of microwave popcorn and a whole
2 liter of soda pop to watch that.
On another topic has anybody noticed that Semper Fi sounds like the ex-Marine with 30 years service? I am not much for 'tells' but there was a significant one in hers. It wasn't specifically oh yes I do but pretty darned close
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Same person. There wasn't just one "tell" that was there, but several of them.
As much as I hate to credit the bitch for anything, IMO, Kate played her twitter fans AND non-fans like a fiddle.
By pretending on twitter she had no plans for the summer, non-fans thought 'those poor kids' had to spend all summer at their pool.
Kate was able to invoke sympathy from her fans as they were thinking oh! no! no trip could mean cancellation! Horrors!
And all along, she knew she had a *blockbuster* summer vacay to go on.
She's a mean, spiteful bitch.
Pixie, we can only speculate what has or hasn't been told to Kate about the future of her show, but I'm not sure I believe she was "playing" everyone. There was a period a few months ago where Kate was off her rocker begging people to watch the show, tell friends, they'll tell two more friends (pyramid scheme)!! When pressed as to what the kids would do this summer I think she sincerely wasn't planning anything because she was HOLDING OUT on TLC. She's such a bad actress I think we would have seen right through it. Rather I saw a desperate woman petrified her gravy train was about to come to a screeching halt.
When ratings got a bit better after foot licking-gate and a couple more episodes, I think they threw this trip together as a consolation prize. The ratings are still JUST enough that TLC is still in the green. It's all about numbers, as long as they stay green they're good. Although it seems like a lot of expensive, this is probably one of the cheapest vacations they could film. We're talking parks here, not resorts. Almost all the attractions require nominal fees, doesn't sound like there are many fancy hotels involved or anything on that order. Even the ranger with the blog made it seem like TLC requesting a permit was a very recent development. I just don't think this trip has the feel of something being planned forever, judging by Kate's own rather erratic behavior on twitter. I think if she knew back then she would be filming all summer she wouldn't waste so much time buttering her fans up trying to get them to keep watching. And now that she has her trip (or her "fix") she is absent from twitter as she doesn't need the affirmation right now. I think they were just waiting until the last possible second to see what the ratings were and whether a trip would be thrown together.
As for blaming us for giving them the idea for this trip, that's downright laughable. Any idiot at TLC with a map of the U.S. could come up with Mount Rushmore and the Grand Canyon as good places to visit.
Auntie Ann's post: Kate will be seething when she hears about it. She'll be telling the kids they are not allowed to call Ellen 'Mom' under any circumstance under penalty of severeness. And I'll bet she and old ratclaws will be tying the knot on a future episode just to one-up her ex.
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Isn't this old news? I really believe, and I could be wrong, that his quote was taken from that Life and Style article he did several months ago. I doubt that Jon has done a new interview, especially since he said that was going to be his last.
I think it's a slow gossip week and so someone figured they'd rile up the Gosselin fans/non-fans again. It even could have been Kate's people doing it. Who knows?
The show will end when it ends. I've given up predicting - we've all been saying for the past three years "It can't possible go on after this!" And yet it does. As for whether TLC is setting her up on this trip to fail, I doubt it. If Kate has a meltdown, all the better for them. It's what she's become known for. It's why some people tune in. The show will end when the advertisers stop buying time, plain and simple. If it's not profitable for TLC, then they'll can it.
I totally hope your right, Admin. Perhaps I'm giving her too much credit. *sigh* She's an enigma to me. Banging my head against the wall seems to make more sense than she does.
However, she was pretty good at keeping that now cancelled Korean trip under wraps. She's also proven herself a somewhat 'good' liar in that she believes everything she is saying.
At any rate, it is pretty pathetic for her to hold out for a production company to dictate her summer.
I apologize as I am probably making no sense.
If anyone has read my blog, you all know how I feel about reality tv, it is so fake & predictable. Kate's stupid show going on as long as it has is just shocking to me. There is ZERO originality & the fact that the kids have no shred of a private life should have shut down this crapfest years ago. The way these reality hos achieve fame is a for a whole different post, but none have shame. They'll do anything for their 15 min. I wish the whole reality genre would just die out...
~Hippie Chick~
"Midnight Madness said...
Why can't they work? Neither one of them? Are they also going to collect social security disability? It's tragic what happened, but playing martyrs by grifting and scheming is so unbecoming. The public will see through this, but I'm sure Nancy Grace and her twins will continue to cry for Saint Cindy. "
Cindy and Geo have both been reported as being on disibilty due to "stress-related medical problems". Their previous attorney Conway also said that "George Anthony has an added difficulty because he is instantly recognized and rejected by most employers either because of who he is or because companies fear he may bring unwanted media attention." I suppose the trip the Bahamas will help with that stress. And the new Jeep. I had also read that Lee now is on disibility. Not sure if that is true. BUT why not? They have all found ways to scam the justice system and government.
Also, yes I am aware the state declined to file on perjury charges against Cindy, I was referring to the threat they have made to sue the computer expert who found that only one search was made not 84 for Chloroform. Why Cindy would even think of filing suit is beyond me. BUT if the do, I am sure the perjury will come out. That is what I meant.
Of course poor Jon is being blasted by giving yet "another" interview. It sounds as if this was taken out of a previous interview and reported as a "new" story. Regardless, it seems the magazine is more interested in what JON has to say than Kate. :) So what if the guy answered a question from a magazine? So what if he might have gotten paid for it. SO WHAT?
Why Cindy would even think of filing suit is beyond me.
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Agreed, no regrets. I hadn't read about the possible suit for the 84 searches. But they are looking for cash rewards wherever they can get them. In her case, though, I would think it's best to just let sleeping dogs lie. No need to stir the pot - you never know what is going to come up, and in her case, it might not be to her benefit.
Everybody is suing everybody else. The attorneys are going to have a field day.
"Hippie Chick I wish the whole reality genre would just die out..."
This reality TV is the downfall of our society, IMO. Or one of the downfalls. What happened to all the talented writers? I am so starved for GOOD TV, I have just taken to watching the news mostly. Look at the "heros" of the media. Snooki?? Who lays down with most guys she meets. Admits to waking up in a trash can from a drunk? No talent whatsoever. She has 2,311,288
followers on Twitter! That says something about society today to me. Then we have Ms. Gosselin with her 21,447 followers on Twitter. LOL She is SO proud of ALL of them. Geez I swear. The fake and gutter idols of today. I just don't get it.
"Midnight Madness said...Also they have been on disibility since '08 from everything I have read. So they ARE getting the checks now, and have been for some time. Neither have worked since July '08. Very stressful lying a lot.
Pic of a Kate look alike at a Pittsburgh Penguins Hockey Game - giving the finger to a player. http://yukiesano.tumblr.com/post/7962083539/is-that-kate-gosselin-as-in-jon-and-kate-plus
They are also set to make millions with the book deal C. was asked about in court. Poor Cayley, she never had a chance. The bunch of them are just ruthless people.
Kate's Cart said...
Pic of a Kate look alike at a Pittsburgh Penguins Hockey Game...
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Similar looking and they could be sisters, but I think it's a different person. The chin is different and the face is fuller.
Similar looking and they could be sisters, but I think it's a different person. The chin is different and the face is fuller.
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VERY similar in the face, but look at the waist - definitely chubbier!
They have all found ways to scam the justice system and government.
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No Regrets - I agree. As much as I have sympathy for Cindy and George for the loss of their granddaughter I think it's time they moved on. They're just exploiting her death now. It might sound cruel to say but I have a sneaky suspicion that Cindy is a bit (okay more than a bit) of a fame-seeker herself and a drama queen to boot. When she rambled on and on, on the witness stand it was plain to see where Casey learned how to tell lies with such detail. I wondered why no objections were raised by either side when Cindy sidestepped so many questions by embellishing the answers.
That whole family seems messed up. It doesn't seem like there's been any justice for Caylee yet but sooner or later something will happen to balance the unfairness of that baby's death.
Am I the only person who thinks that perhaps TLC or Stevie-o has taken away the little pink Twitter toy because just perhaps they don't want Grifter Mom giving away all the details of this trip? They are spending a small fortune on this last ditch ratings effort, and if all the deets are spilling out each and every day, there is no mystery at all, no incentive to watch. Why the traveling circus has not been spotted along the way remains a mystery, unless, again perhaps, the American public, on vacations or their own, simply does not care.
Why the traveling circus has not been spotted along the way remains a mystery, unless, again perhaps, the American public, on vacations or their own, simply does not care.
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Who is left to clean up the sawdust when they roll on to the next fairgrounds? Certainly there should be someone who has seen this all and would run to the tabs with stories or photos when the circus moves on.
But then again, maybe nobody cares. We can only hope.
Auntie Ann - you are dead on with your assessment of George and Cindy. She wears the pants in the family, and I have a feeling she is directing this whole grifting scheme. Perhaps the reason prosecutors didn't stop the embellishment thing is because they thought she'd trip up. Defense was too stupid to shut her up. I'll never forget the video of her giving her deposition - chomping away on the gum, giving the attorney a piece of her mind, getting in his face, and acting like she was running the show. I didn't expect any less of her on the witness stand...lies, contradictions, but, thankfully, no gum.
George, well, I still haven't figured him out. If they can't work in Florida because they'd be recognized, then MOVE! Hope the new jeep helps to heal their stress. Nothing like that new car smell to ease depression.
I did it jokingly, but I called the trip a few months ago, remember?
"KatePlus8 Tours the States"
Sounds like one big yawn to me.
AuntieAnn said...I had a lot of sympathy at first. BUT when I saw how they acted with their defense of Casey, and it seemed they literally forgot about that child. It truly sickened me. Bragging about turning in the wrong hairbrush to LE? Destroying evidence? Even their first attorney, as you probably already know, wrote a hot letter to them and told them he didn't want to represent them any longer because they were so concerned about getting Casey off, they forgot about little Caylee. It is a truly weird family. All of them. I will never give a penny to them because whatever they write, or say will NEVER be the whole truth. Standing by your child is one thing, they didn't stand by that Grandchild. Even now, the foundation is using that baby's name. I was stunned too by the ease that Cindy lied, too. But she did that during the entire 3 years of this mess. LOL I detest liars, I cannot imagine dealing day to day with a liar. It has been speculated that they announced this new foundation to get back in the news because Casey was getting all the press. So, I agree with you as far her being fame seeker and drama queen, as do many others. What a mess. What a messy family. Mine is far from perfect, BUT living with liars and lying to people? What a horrible life.
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That is one of the main things that turned me against Kate. Is her LIES. I started catching so many from the very beginning. Why lie? Why exaggerate every single thing? "So exhausted" blah blah blah. She has been such a 'victim' since the beginning. For someone who gets FREE stuff as much as she has, then continually COMPLAIN is just stunning to me too. How can she be so ungrateful. None of those kids have anything seriously wrong with them, health wise. Which is miracle in itself with multiples, yet she complained because of Aaden wearing glasses?
Her blessings have been so many, yet she is unhappy and so self centered, she is not grateful for one single thing that has come her way. Even on this trip, why complain because her stupid "organization and cleanliness" has been "challenged". Good GOD this is all FREE. Shut up already. She is truly sickening and getting more so everyday!
"E-town Neighbor said...I'll never forget the video of her giving her deposition - chomping away on the gum, giving the attorney a piece of her mind, getting in his face, and acting like she was running the show."
OMG that was a video to see! What a total a$$ she is. She really thinks she is so much smarter than everyone. WHY didn't she go after that idiot child of hers like that, instead of excusing everything? Man o man.
You know I think there are two kinds of family members. Those who support their family members no matter what, even if they murder their grandchild, and those who have the courage to say I love you but that was wrong I cannot support you in that I need to intervene.
My experience working with families every day is the family members that are actually willing to take a stand and not only say something when another family member is making bad choices and doing something wrong, but also willing to take action (such as an intervention, checking them into rehab, etc.) ultimately often come out closer and stronger for it, with greater success in helping the person who needs it.
I just know if I were ever in a compromising situation I hope my family would be willing to help shake me out of it, and not just passively stand by and say we love you whatever you need.
ADMIN agreed. I had thought long and hard IF I had been in situation such as this family. I honestly do not know how far I would go in "standing by my child" if one of my kids murdered my grandchild, or anyone else for that matter. Especially if they lied about it, and then tried to destroy the entire family? I would MAKE sure they got the help they needed, mental experts. But I know I would NEVER cover up for a murderer, regardless if one of my own. Never. I would NEVER try to get them off. That much I do know.
No Regrets, this situation has actually caused a lot of people to really ponder the moral question, how far would you go to cover for your child? You gave birth to them and that kind of love is a powerful thing, but does it transcend the murder of your grandchild?
I don't know how many people I've talked to about it who have said they debated the same question. You know what, I've heard a good handful of people who don't even want to THINK about this situation, outright refused to try to imagine themselves in that situation. This has really hit people hard. A lot of people have suggested that the Anthonys might be thinking they lost a grandchild they don't want to lose a child too.
OT but...Amy Winehouse is dead. Wow. Well, I mean kind of wow. She was only 27. That is so young, but she had so many opportunities to get clean & sober. So sad. Another young life cut short by drugs.
~Hippie Chick~
You all are right, Semper Fi and the ex-Marine with 30 years service seem to be one in the same OH YES THEY DO!
I disagree Admin, about TLC getting the idea from this trip from reading the blogs. There was SO much commentary from everyone about why TLC felt this need to go to exotic and distant locales to film and why not stay here in the US where we had so much to offer. It was after all that conversation that all of a sudden they are filming here in the US. I agree TLC could have pulled out a map and decided on these destinations, but the timing is just too suspicious for me. After all, think of the other things that are so blatantly obvious that TLC is allowing Kate to answer back through the show. There is the giving back fiasco. Kate has never given back in her life, and all of a sudden she is doing an episode about giving back and bleeting on and on about how this will be something she and the kids will be doing on a continuing basis. Sure Kate. There's just so many examples of this and has been talked about ad infinitum. Just my opinion.
Oh that's just awful about Amy Winehouse although sadly not surprising. I really admire her for starting this movement where a singer could make it and not necessarily have to look like Jessica Simpson or Britney Spears. Based on talent, not looks.
Something interesting about her is she was able to successfully get many of the harassing paparazzi restrained from blocking her. At one point they were stalking her daily taking photos right into her home, she took them to court many times and won. This was in England, it's harder to block paparazzi like that here because of free speech concerns. Although in England, I think the paps tend to be more relentless.
Jenna I am really worried about Lindsay Lohen. She is going to end up like this or with a serious overdose. What is HER MOM doing to help?
Mimi, I do agree that the "giving back" thing was in response to the "haters' relentless questioning.
I still don't know about anyone having that much influence on the U.S. trip. They've traveled in the U.S. TONS of times, as far back as the first season taking the twins to CA. This is really nothing new. You don't think they just said well it's back to the U.S. for travel because international is too expensive? Besides, I thought we were mostly asking them to please let the kids STAY HOME AND DO NORMAL STUFF AND HAVE FRIENDS. If they actually started showing episodes about that, I would raise an eyebrow.
What bothers me about the whole Casey/Cindy/George thing (& it's NOT just this) but if they think Casey didn't kill little Caylee, then are they out there looking for the "real" killer? Hmm, just like OJ, looking for the killer on every golf course in America. The Anthony's KNOW it was Casey, that is why they keep setting up these "funds", they know the...um, less smart people will donate, the ones who still believe that Casey is innocent, & Cindy & George will profit. Casey did it, no doubt & I'm pretty sure her parents know this. Are they hiring detectives with this fund money to find who "really did it"? Didn't think so. They are going to the Bahamas, buying a new Jeep, stuff like that.
If they TRULY believed Casey is NOT the killer, they need to find out who did it. If I were that little girls family, I would be doing everything in my power to ensure that no killer goes free, including my own daughter. I guess traveling is more important to them. Sounds fishy to me.
~Hippie Chick~
Administrator said...
You know I think there are two kinds of family members. Those who support their family members no matter what, even if they murder their grandchild, and those who have the courage to say I love you but that was wrong I cannot support you in that I need to intervene.
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Here's another example: After Osama was killed, Whitey Bulger was THE FBI’s most wanted.
http://www.wbur.org/2011/07/22/william-bulger-legacy
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Jenna I am really worried about Lindsay Lohen. She is going to end up like this or with a serious overdose. What is HER MOM doing to help?
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Lindsay Lohan's mom (or dad) does NOTHING to help. She is such an enabler. Last I heard, & it could be over, but Lindsay was on house arrest & was doing photo shoots & such. Dina, her mom, was taking Lindsay to clubs & letting her hang out with an older crowd before Lindsay was of age, allowing her to drink & all of that stuff. She was hanging out with the "it" crowd at the time; Paris Hilton, Nicole Ritchie (who had gotten arrested for possession & DUI back then). I'm afraid Lindsay is in deep sh*t; Rehab 3 times, a couple DUI's, shoplifting charges, court date after court date. She had the world at her feet, an amazing acting career, etc, & she threw it away for a life of partying, stealing, drugs & alcohol. It's really sad.
Hopefully, she is seeing to it that her life gets better as she was a great actor. Unfortunately, w/ her mom & her dad enabling her AND her YES friends, she may not get far. Her brother even changed his last name from Lohan to Cameron or something I believe? Tough love baby! Sometimes that's all you need.
~Hippie Chick~
That is horrible about Amy. I think many of us saw it coming. It makes me so angry that talented young men and women who can have the world by the tail, self destruct like this. Man I really liked her singing style too. Such a waste.
"What is HER MOM doing to help?" Dina celebrated one of Lindsey's court victories by having a drink with her daughter. Cool mom, eh? The Lohans are another example of excusing bad behavior. Dina has denied so much about her, make excuses. It is destroying that girl. Even though, after a kid grows up, you can't really blame the parents after awhile. Even tho both parents are crap, look at her lousy father, there comes a time when kids have to take responsibility for themselves. Many people have crap childhoods, but they all don't end up dead or drugged out. Even tho, they should try to force her into rehab. BUT so many times, I have read this doesn't work, unless they are ready for it. Sad situation.
No Regrets said... "E-town Neighbor said...I'll never forget the video of her giving her deposition - chomping away on the gum, giving the attorney a piece of her mind, getting in his face, and acting like she was running the show."
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You mean this video of $indy? Pssst..hit the mute button.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ocPLQY1xzo&feature=player_detailpage
Laurie said...
You all are right, Semper Fi and the ex-Marine with 30 years service seem to be one in the same OH YES THEY DO!
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A sockpuppet, no less - Semper confirms what ex-Marine says!
I checked back to one of the aliases used by "oh, yes" on the other site, and sure enough, there are the same calling cards that the Marine used. No, I don't have too much free-time on my hands. It's too hot to do anything outside, or even physical work inside, even with the air con running. Our electric company is cutting way back on output and it's hot even inside!
"But I know I would NEVER cover up for a murderer, regardless if one of my own. Never. I would NEVER try to get them off. That much I do know."
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If my daughter had murdered my granddaughter, I would not lie for her to get her off. I couldn't even look at her or talk to her. I'd be so angry that the last thing I would do is commit perjury on the stand. Not even a new jeep or free Bahamas vacation, or suing a witness would make things better.
Hippie - they are not out looking for the real murderer because their attorney said, before the end of the trial, that they do not believe their daughter is innocent. They know she did it. They'd have to be idiots not to know it.
I was thinking about the conviction because evidence was lacking and the state didn't prove its case (according to the jury who clearly didn't apply the correct standard). Wasn't Michael Skakel convicted for killing Martha Moxley with no evidence - he didn't get off and he was a Kennedy by association!
Kelly/walt just posted on another site that he was at an inn last night in Maryland and someone, presumably a sheeple, called the hotel 39 times, asking for him and his room number, but the person couldn't give the front desk his entire name so they wouldn't put him through. The caller even claimed to be a neighbor and there was a family emergency.
If you don't want this to happen, you don't publish an itinerary of your trip, including the day you will be at what location, lodging, whatever!! Good grief! It's an open invitation to all sheeple!
"Midnight Madness said... I couldn't even look at her or talk to her"
As I said, I had thought and thought of this situation. It is so hard to put oneself into this sort of madness. I would probably be like you. I honestly don't know. You know I have no doubts that Cindy would take that girl back in her home if she came to them. That is the sick thing about all this. I could never do that. I know. It is making me sick to even think about dealing with something like this. ugh
Teresa said... Oh the HORROR lol I am listening the the very end of the depo. What a horrible woman this one is. Her stupid daughter brought that woman's name into the public. She SHOULD have been apologizing to the woman. Instead of insulting her and her attorneys. UGH LOL
What a waste, Amy Winehouse Dead?, When this happen? I guess like in the fast lane will either kill you or wake you up at some point. She must have had too many enablers around her. 27 too young to die.
Do you know anyone who talks like Kate? That "penalty of severeness" business was the episode that did it for me. Combine that with "mine, all mine" and I thought I'd jump through the roof of my house! All I could think at the time was those poor kids. Who doesn't allow their little kid to come into the bedroom when they're up in the middle of the night, crying, fighting, or just need a hug from mom and dad? I believe it was all a part of the lie we were being fed about a happy marriage. They, Jon and Kate, were not sharing that bedroom in that new house and they didn't want the kids to spill the beans about it. Those kids probably had no idea their dad was staying over the garage from day one at the McMansion. Sickening, really. Been voting with my remote for quite some time now.
Who doesn't allow their little kid to come into the bedroom when they're up in the middle of the night, crying, fighting, or just need a hug from mom and dad?
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I don't know about any of you, but I cherish the early mornings when the kids come into the room, jump on the bed, with the "Time to wake up" banter, the snuggling, reading books, etc. It's part of their childhood memories, as well as parents' memories!
To banish a child from a bedroom under penalty of severeness is unconscionable. I think, though, that we know the reason for it - Jon was sleeping in the garage apartment and they didn't want the kids to know, especially after the "mommy and daddy will be together forever" farce.
I'd like to find out what that severe penalty would be...just for going into mommie's bedroom...sheesh. That's not the biggest no-no in the world is it? My kids crawled in with us lots of times in the middle of the night when they were small and were scared. I suppose that's against the law now though, too.
Regarding Cindy...I certainly agree she wears the pants in that family. And this is not to advocate sympathy for Casey in any way but I think she might have weighed the consequences of her mother finding out she'd overdosed Caylee on some kind of sedative and in a panic decided that she would lie her way out of it. I listened again to the bodyguard Tracy (who stayed with Casey) on the Dr. Drew rerun last night and I think the story she tells is the closest to what really happened. Pretty frightening to think that the wrath of your mother outweighs the punishment for a crime like the one she committed.
Who doesn't allow their little kid to come into the bedroom when they're up in the middle of the night, crying, fighting, or just need a hug from mom and dad?
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When I bartended & wasn't home & asleep until 2 a.m., I *still* loved it when my son (he was so little then!) would come in my room bright & early, flip on PBS & we would snuggle in my bed. What kind of mother would do this to her kids? Oh right...of course it has to be Kate. And of course the possibility of Kate & Jon not being together is there & they didn't want the kids to rat them out, but still, whoever said that with 8 kids under the roof, one of them is bound to have a bad dream or an illness & need a parent, then what? "Screw you kid, don't come in or I will make your life miserable?" That's already happened, what more can Kate do to make these kids more miserable than usual??
And the whole "Kelly/Walt" thing. Is this true? Things need to be taken with a grain of salt on the internet, but if it is a fact, then those sheeple are fricken nuts & NEED TO GET A LIFE. Calling someone on their vacation? Why? Some things just go too damn far. People need to take a firm hold of reality & hold on tight. CA-RAZY!!!
~Hippie Chick~
I just don't get how any of the Gosselins are still relevant.
The kids are too old to be "cute" and the parents never were.
I have to believe that the only thing that keeps them going are Kate's twitter battle, blogs (and and all), and the fact that TLC sees these things and thinks "goldmine!" people ARE still interested!
They won't go away until "interested" people do. And that includes the pro - con - and couldn't care less but tune in for the drama.
I keep seeing all these "I vote with my remote" posts ... and think ... I am happy you vote with your remote ... but don't ya think TLC knows they can make a buck whether you watch or not?! The only thing TLC cares about right now is if she's relevant ... and anyone who posts, looks at posts, or watches her show .. makes her so ... and makes them happy. Ick! Let's all stop. Everything. Not let her be relevant. Let her kids have the life that kids should have.
One more thing on the Anthony subject...that dramatic crying episode on the stand that Cindy performed (during the playing of the 911 call) could have been out of guilt for her own part in this. We never did hear a word during the trial about the big fight she had with Casey the night before Caylee disappeared. To hear Jesse Grund tell it, Cindy liked to berate Casey in front of her friends. Maybe that's how she talked to her all the time and Casey turned into a teflon liar to appease her.
Similar Said - and she would never sit w/ the regular folks down in the poor seats. I did say "Look alike". Almost looks more like Jamie before her new stringy haircut.
Kate's Cart: Re pic
I don't think that is Kate, and also, if you look at the closeup and then look at the long shot, the person giving the finger is the guy sitting next to her
I've always thought that the "penalty of severeness" remark was aimed at Jon rather than the kids. I may be wrong, but that's just IMO. OTOH, we all know how much Kate values her sleep and unless one of the kids showed up with a cup of hot coffee, fixed to Kate's exacting specifications, I'm sure they wouldn't be welcomed either. She certainly wasn' very pleased to have them crawl into bed with her on that Mother's Day episode.
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At this point, it's gonna take Kate or her kids to stop their exploitation.
We could all stand up for a great cause. Many out there. My current one is to "vote with my remote" (and any other form of paper/technology!) ... to make sure I personally don't donate a nickel to the Anthony family scam to live off Caylee's murder.
Eventually the G kids will have a say into who makes money off of them. Caylee never will.
I doubt this will be posted, as my last few posts on this subject weren't, but I'll try again. Forever the optimist I guess.
Voting with your remote is obviously good, but I think a crucial key in getting rid of Kate is to vote with your blog posts and tweets. Don't post about the sheeple; Don't post about twitter. A blog/twitter blackout would affect Kate and TLC more than low ratings, IMO. Because then TLC would be forced to spend money on promotion, and it is all about the money. I say, ignore the sheeple, ignore what they tweet to Kate, ignore what the non-fans tweet to the sheeple about Kate etc. It's bad enough that there are some truly frighteningly obsessed twitter fans, but constantly discussing them (and saying the same thing over and over) just gives them and Kate more power. They want attention, and sadly, we give it. JMHO
Hoosier Girl said...
I have to believe that the only thing that keeps them going are Kate's twitter battle, blogs (and and all), and the fact that TLC sees these things and thinks "goldmine!" people ARE still interested!
They won't go away until "interested" people do. And that includes the pro - con - and couldn't care less but tune in for the drama.
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Hoosier Girl, I completely disagree with your argument. With all due respect to Admin and the posters here, TLC does NOT give a flying fvck about this blog or any other blog. The ONLY think keeping Khate relevant, as in still on TV, is ratings, pure and simple. When the time comes that ratings sink low enough and sponsors fall out, TLC won't be making enough money on the show to justify continuing it. Fan blogs, "hate" blogs, Twitter, whatever, blah, blah, blah. There could be 5,000 Khate blogs, and Khate could have 2 million "followers" on Twitter, BUT none of it would matter if her ratings were in the toilet.
And not for nothing, but every time I see a post that says we need to stop discussing Khate on blogs, I tend to think it's a sheeple.
Midnight Madness said...
Kelly/walt just posted on another site that he was at an inn last night in Maryland and someone, presumably a sheeple, called the hotel 39 times, asking for him and his room number, but the person couldn't give the front desk his entire name so they wouldn't put him through. The caller even claimed to be a neighbor and there was a family emergency.
If you don't want this to happen, you don't publish an itinerary of your trip, including the day you will be at what location, lodging, whatever!! Good grief! It's an open invitation to all sheeple!
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Kelly is desperate for attention. I take everything he says with a huge grain of salt, including this latest claim.
anon said, Kelly is desperate for attention. I take everything he says with a huge grain of salt, including this latest claim.
Maybe. But he did post the name and place of lodging and the night he was going to be there. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for a sheeple to do a hate job on him. After all, he did generate a considerable amount of controversy when doing those nasty tweets that were directed at them and about them.
Nevertheless, I did find it hard to believe that an ex-cop wouldn't observe some of the rules of internet safety, which includes posting his whereabouts! It makes no sense. This isn't the first time he blogged about his travel plans.
Maybe it's the economist in me, but I can assure you the numbers this blog gets, which I'm sure are similar to most Gosselin blogs, don't amount to even 1% of the ratings at their lowest--and that's assuming everyone is watching, when most people have made it clear they don't. The only thing TLC may use the blogs for is to gauge reactions to the episodes in a cheaper way than using a focus group, but it's a numbers game pure and simple. Shows have come and gone the past 50 years without blogs and shows will come and go for the next 50 years WITH blogs. It's just a different medium to discuss a show when in the past you had to do it around the water cooler.
It is simple math. When the show does not come out in the green enough to be worth it, it will be canceled.
Auntie Ann said, I listened again to the bodyguard Tracy (who stayed with Casey) on the Dr. Drew rerun last night...
Auntie Ann - Is it just me, or is Tracy really difficult to understand? Either she doesn't pronounce her words correctly, her speech is jerky, or something else! I wanted to listen to her story, but really had trouble. It's not my hearing!
Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...
And not for nothing, but every time I see a post that says we need to stop discussing Khate on blogs, I tend to think it's a sheeple.
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I assure you I'm not a sheeple. And I respect your opinion, just as I would hope you respect mine.
I do find it sad that you immediately equate anyone who disagrees with your opinion as a sheeple. Especially as we don't disagree with the fact that Kate is exploiting her children -we only seem to disagree on how she continues to get by with it.
Peace Nobody. Didn't mean to ruffle anyone's feathers.
"anon said, Kelly is desperate for attention. I take everything he says with a huge grain of salt, including this latest claim."
The guy is as nutty as anyone who may or may not have have called his hotel. He put all the info out there knowing that he has "enemies" on Twitter and was probably hoping for a "stalker" to respond and insert some drama into what must be a miserable life. When the stalker didn't materialize he made one up and reported it to, where else? a Gosselin blog.
His constant babble about his personal life on Gosselin blogs is bizarre. Why doesn't he start his own blog and leave the Gosselin fans/haters out of it? Now that he's done here he is mucking up the other blog. They are being nice to him now. I doubt that will last long. Contrary to what he may think, women aren't stupid no matter which side of the fence they are on with regards to Kate Gosselin.
*Admin, feel free edit this post if there are things I said that broke any rules.
Hoosier Girl
I respectfully disagree. Money is behind every single thing TLC and any other network produces. Blogs, twitter has nothing at all to do with money. Money, it is all about the GREEN. There is no concience nor loyalty when money is the motivator.
I think this is the very reason the travel budget seems to be severely cut back this summer.Remember last summer? They hit the road as soon as school was out, up until the beginning of school. The ratings keep sinking, and I think this is the very reason Missy can't complete her HUGE bucket list. LOL
Low ratings = low viewers = losing money = cancellation.
I guess I missed something. What happened to Kelly/Walt. I thought he was one of the favourite posters here. What happened? Did he become a sheeple or troll?
Bluenoser it may be easy for you to be anonymous, but for people who have to have certain information about them be public, a good sleuth can find it out. Therapists, doctors, lawyers and so on all often have public records. It is in the public's best interest to know what my record is as a lawyer and I don't object to it, but it also means it's easy for anyone to contact me. Thank god we don't have to disclose home addresses or I never would have entered the profession.
Kelly followed the rules here in the past and was welcome. Things disintegrated when he took to twitter and started harassing Kate and her fans to a disturbing degree. I considered it bullying, so did others, some of us started speaking out about it and he is no longer welcome here unless he wants to stop that behavior. No fan deserves that, and frankly, I don't even think Kate does.
Fact Or Fiction said... Auntie Ann - Is it just me, or is Tracy really difficult to understand?
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I found that she was a little hard to listen to but I chalked it up to nerves. She wasn't articulating her thoughts very well, but then again if I was in front of that camera my mouth would probably get dry and I'd forget what the hell I was talking about and stare blankly at the little red light (do they still have them?)
She did make sense though. I get annoyed at how much these commentators like Dr. Drew, Nancy G and Jane Valez interrupt their guests. They never let them finish their sentences. Dr. D isn't nearly as bad as the other two.
On the subject of Amy Winehouse - very sad to hear that, not terribly surprised though.
An interesting fact I found in an article from the Mirror "Other famous singers who all died at the same age of 27 include Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain, Rolling Stones star Brian Jones, Jim Morrison and Jimi Hendrix. All had drink and drug problems. US rock singer Janis Joplin, who Amy was compared to, also died aged 27."
Strange, isn't it?
I was responding to the assertion that Kate Hater doesn't give out info about herself anywhere on the net--not talking about giving info or clues directly to the sheeple, which is just dumb.
Some of us have to disclose public records, by law.
I, too, watched Tracy (the bodyguard) on the Dr. Drew show. I believe Tracy has it figured out closest to the truth of anyone I've heard except Leonard P. (the bounty hunter). What happened to Caylee is a horrible crime and it will not go unpunished forever. Time will take care of Casey. Karma is a "bite." I'm just wondering why Tracy didn't testify for the DA? Eye witness to Casey's actions and attitude re: Caylee.
No Regrets said... AuntieAnn said...I had a lot of sympathy at first. BUT when I saw how they acted with their defense of Casey, and it seemed they literally forgot about that child. It truly sickened me. Bragging about turning in the wrong hairbrush to LE? Destroying evidence? Even their first attorney, as you probably already know, wrote a hot letter to them and told them he didn't want to represent them any longer because they were so concerned about getting Casey off, they forgot about little Caylee. It is a truly weird family. All of them. I will never give a penny to them because whatever they write, or say will NEVER be the whole truth. Standing by your child is one thing, they didn't stand by that Grandchild. Even now, the foundation is using that baby's name. I was stunned too by the ease that Cindy lied, too. But she did that during the entire 3 years of this mess. LOL I detest liars, I cannot imagine dealing day to day with a liar. It has been speculated that they announced this new foundation to get back in the news because Casey was getting all the press. So, I agree with you as far her being fame seeker and drama queen, as do many others. What a mess. What a messy family. Mine is far from perfect, BUT living with liars and lying to people? What a horrible life.
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That is one of the main things that turned me against Kate. Is her LIES. I started catching so many from the very beginning. Why lie? Why exaggerate every single thing? "So exhausted" blah blah blah. She has been such a 'victim' since the beginning. For someone who gets FREE stuff as much as she has, then continually COMPLAIN is just stunning to me too. How can she be so ungrateful. None of those kids have anything seriously wrong with them, health wise. Which is miracle in itself with multiples, yet she complained because of Aaden wearing glasses?
Her blessings have been so many, yet she is unhappy and so self centered, she is not grateful for one single thing that has come her way. Even on this trip, why complain because her stupid "organization and cleanliness" has been "challenged". Good GOD this is all FREE. Shut up already. She is truly sickening and getting more so everyday!
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I agree with every single word both No Regrets and Auntie Ann wrote here. You both NAILED IT!!!
I'm going to try this again. I keep getting a blogger editing error.
admin.,
I watched in disbelief recently as he badgered a sheeple newbie on tweeter because he didn't believe where she was tweeting from or by what method, nor her husband's employment, the fact that she was hurting financially, and so forth. This went on for a very long time. I stepped away from the computer, and when I came back, he was still at it with her. It was embarrassing. She is a Kate fan, but not a crazy sheeple like some, and she most certainly didn't deserve the way he was grilling her about her personal life. He called it BS. I later checked on some of the things she said (google really IS a friend!) and everything was as she said it. The thing is that she never lost her cool, just kept politely answering his questions, didn't bash him back, and came off as the much more mature person.
I just found it baffling that when this happened before with him, and I don't remember who it was, that he apologized and said he was wrong. But, doggone it, there he was, back again, doing the same darn thing.
Admin was right in not welcoming posters who cyber-bully in the way that goes on with the tweeters. I can see why she doesn't want this blog associated with that abhorrent kind of behavior. There is one "reg" tormenter "hater" tweeting who did at one time post here, but I haven't seen that person around lately. That is not to say that his/her posts here aren't disguised.
Miss Kate tweeted: Enjoying a down day by a pool.all r happy here&altho a very challenging adventure,it was 1 4 the memory books 4 sure!U will c on Aug 8 TLC!
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It sounds like she's still convinced that the Traveling Roadside Circus show is going to air on August 8! Is she back? She says "by A pool" (as in hotel?), not "by MY pool"...
Well I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong, but I would be shocked beyond recognition if the August 8 episode is about this trip. They are still ON the trip. They have to do interviews still in the basement! Aug 8 is only two weeks away, that would be an absolutely incredible deadline. If this is their deadline the editors must be going crazy complaining about how it's impossible.
I think Kate is confused, or being mislead or both.
I, too, watched Tracy (the bodyguard) on the Dr. Drew show. I believe Tracy has it figured out closest to the truth of anyone I've heard except Leonard P. (the bounty hunter). What happened to Caylee is a horrible crime and it will not go unpunished forever. Time will take care of Casey. Karma is a "bite." I'm just wondering why Tracy didn't testify for the DA? Eye witness to Casey's actions and attitude re: Caylee.
Fact Or Fiction said... Auntie Ann - Is it just me, or is Tracy really difficult to understand?
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I found that she was a little hard to listen to but I chalked it up to nerves. She wasn't articulating her thoughts very well, but then again if I was in front of that camera my mouth would probably get dry and I'd forget what the hell I was talking about and stare blankly at the little red light (do they still have them?)
She did make sense though. I get annoyed at how much these commentators like Dr. Drew, Nancy G and Jane Valez interrupt their guests. They never let them finish their sentences. Dr. D isn't nearly as bad as the other two.
Sheeple have never messed with me, ever. Why? I don't engage them, nor do I give out information about myself anywhere on the net.
It's easy.
Hoosier Girl
I respectfully disagree. Money is behind every single thing TLC and any other network produces. Blogs, twitter has nothing at all to do with money. Money, it is all about the GREEN. There is no concience nor loyalty when money is the motivator.
I think this is the very reason the travel budget seems to be severely cut back this summer.Remember last summer? They hit the road as soon as school was out, up until the beginning of school. The ratings keep sinking, and I think this is the very reason Missy can't complete her HUGE bucket list. LOL
Low ratings = low viewers = losing money = cancellation.
I doubt this will be posted, as my last few posts on this subject weren't, but I'll try again. Forever the optimist I guess.
Voting with your remote is obviously good, but I think a crucial key in getting rid of Kate is to vote with your blog posts and tweets. Don't post about the sheeple; Don't post about twitter. A blog/twitter blackout would affect Kate and TLC more than low ratings, IMO. Because then TLC would be forced to spend money on promotion, and it is all about the money. I say, ignore the sheeple, ignore what they tweet to Kate, ignore what the non-fans tweet to the sheeple about Kate etc. It's bad enough that there are some truly frighteningly obsessed twitter fans, but constantly discussing them (and saying the same thing over and over) just gives them and Kate more power. They want attention, and sadly, we give it. JMHO
I've always thought that the "penalty of severeness" remark was aimed at Jon rather than the kids. I may be wrong, but that's just IMO. OTOH, we all know how much Kate values her sleep and unless one of the kids showed up with a cup of hot coffee, fixed to Kate's exacting specifications, I'm sure they wouldn't be welcomed either. She certainly wasn' very pleased to have them crawl into bed with her on that Mother's Day episode.
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I just don't get how any of the Gosselins are still relevant.
The kids are too old to be "cute" and the parents never were.
I have to believe that the only thing that keeps them going are Kate's twitter battle, blogs (and and all), and the fact that TLC sees these things and thinks "goldmine!" people ARE still interested!
They won't go away until "interested" people do. And that includes the pro - con - and couldn't care less but tune in for the drama.
I keep seeing all these "I vote with my remote" posts ... and think ... I am happy you vote with your remote ... but don't ya think TLC knows they can make a buck whether you watch or not?! The only thing TLC cares about right now is if she's relevant ... and anyone who posts, looks at posts, or watches her show .. makes her so ... and makes them happy. Ick! Let's all stop. Everything. Not let her be relevant. Let her kids have the life that kids should have.
I'd like to find out what that severe penalty would be...just for going into mommie's bedroom...sheesh. That's not the biggest no-no in the world is it? My kids crawled in with us lots of times in the middle of the night when they were small and were scared. I suppose that's against the law now though, too.
Regarding Cindy...I certainly agree she wears the pants in that family. And this is not to advocate sympathy for Casey in any way but I think she might have weighed the consequences of her mother finding out she'd overdosed Caylee on some kind of sedative and in a panic decided that she would lie her way out of it. I listened again to the bodyguard Tracy (who stayed with Casey) on the Dr. Drew rerun last night and I think the story she tells is the closest to what really happened. Pretty frightening to think that the wrath of your mother outweighs the punishment for a crime like the one she committed.
Kelly/walt just posted on another site that he was at an inn last night in Maryland and someone, presumably a sheeple, called the hotel 39 times, asking for him and his room number, but the person couldn't give the front desk his entire name so they wouldn't put him through. The caller even claimed to be a neighbor and there was a family emergency.
If you don't want this to happen, you don't publish an itinerary of your trip, including the day you will be at what location, lodging, whatever!! Good grief! It's an open invitation to all sheeple!
Administrator said...
You know I think there are two kinds of family members. Those who support their family members no matter what, even if they murder their grandchild, and those who have the courage to say I love you but that was wrong I cannot support you in that I need to intervene.
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Here's another example: After Osama was killed, Whitey Bulger was THE FBI’s most wanted.
http://www.wbur.org/2011/07/22/william-bulger-legacy
I disagree Admin, about TLC getting the idea from this trip from reading the blogs. There was SO much commentary from everyone about why TLC felt this need to go to exotic and distant locales to film and why not stay here in the US where we had so much to offer. It was after all that conversation that all of a sudden they are filming here in the US. I agree TLC could have pulled out a map and decided on these destinations, but the timing is just too suspicious for me. After all, think of the other things that are so blatantly obvious that TLC is allowing Kate to answer back through the show. There is the giving back fiasco. Kate has never given back in her life, and all of a sudden she is doing an episode about giving back and bleeting on and on about how this will be something she and the kids will be doing on a continuing basis. Sure Kate. There's just so many examples of this and has been talked about ad infinitum. Just my opinion.
"E-town Neighbor said...I'll never forget the video of her giving her deposition - chomping away on the gum, giving the attorney a piece of her mind, getting in his face, and acting like she was running the show."
OMG that was a video to see! What a total a$$ she is. She really thinks she is so much smarter than everyone. WHY didn't she go after that idiot child of hers like that, instead of excusing everything? Man o man.
Similar looking and they could be sisters, but I think it's a different person. The chin is different and the face is fuller.
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VERY similar in the face, but look at the waist - definitely chubbier!
They are also set to make millions with the book deal C. was asked about in court. Poor Cayley, she never had a chance. The bunch of them are just ruthless people.
Why Cindy would even think of filing suit is beyond me.
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Agreed, no regrets. I hadn't read about the possible suit for the 84 searches. But they are looking for cash rewards wherever they can get them. In her case, though, I would think it's best to just let sleeping dogs lie. No need to stir the pot - you never know what is going to come up, and in her case, it might not be to her benefit.
Everybody is suing everybody else. The attorneys are going to have a field day.
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Why can't they work? Neither one of them? Are they also going to collect social security disability? It's tragic what happened, but playing martyrs by grifting and scheming is so unbecoming. The public will see through this, but I'm sure Nancy Grace and her twins will continue to cry for Saint Cindy. "
Cindy and Geo have both been reported as being on disibilty due to "stress-related medical problems". Their previous attorney Conway also said that "George Anthony has an added difficulty because he is instantly recognized and rejected by most employers either because of who he is or because companies fear he may bring unwanted media attention." I suppose the trip the Bahamas will help with that stress. And the new Jeep. I had also read that Lee now is on disibility. Not sure if that is true. BUT why not? They have all found ways to scam the justice system and government.
Also, yes I am aware the state declined to file on perjury charges against Cindy, I was referring to the threat they have made to sue the computer expert who found that only one search was made not 84 for Chloroform. Why Cindy would even think of filing suit is beyond me. BUT if the do, I am sure the perjury will come out. That is what I meant.
This whole fake as hell "reality" show is a complete farce. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they are flying to different destinations and staying in hotels. If there is a luxury RV, it's just part of the script and used on the "set". They aren't really traveling in it or sleeping in it.
The only thing is that there haven't been any reports of seeing K+8 + helpers + booby guard/purse boy + film crew in any hotels. Then again, don't you think if this large group was actually RV'ing across the west that someone would be tweeting or blogging about spotting them in the RV parks they'd be overnighting in? A lot of stuff about this trip is just not adding up.
Long Time Canadian Lurker said... Gosselin Gossip wrote (There was a recent deadly accident with the Canadian Cash Cab crew who had just finished filming for the day in Vancouver.)
Cash Cab, with Adam Growe, is filmed exclusively in Toronto, Ontario. As far as I know anyway.
Anytime we hail a cab we hope it's Adam's toyota that pulls over.
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FYI Long Time Canadian Lurker, That was true up until last Tues (July 19)...it was the first time Cash Cab was filmed in Vancouver... They had just finished filming a segment, and one of the production crew was driving the cab back to a storage facility when the accident happened.
http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCATRE76I7MP20110719
Oh, Catfish, was........hard to put into words the emotions it evoked. Wow, I had not made that connection, but some of the sheeple could be like that lady in that documentary. Yikes.
Hey TLC- we all see right through what you are trying to do! Sincewe al know that you are scripting this show and trying to put Khate in these precarious positions- well, we're just not buying it and it's PATHETIC! How is is that all the other families of multiples are making it without being on TV? I can bet the parents salaries put together are not near what TLC is paying Khate and lo and behold- they ALL manage! Geesh!
Gosselin Gossip mentioned the RV trip with Roloff family. I had forgotten about that. I only saw the 1st episode, no reason to keep watching a family on vacation in an RV and I loved that show. I remember how the RV was weaving on the freeway! Nope, do not care to see any family on tv make trip like that, let alone one family after another. I agree with the other posters who are opting to pick a book instead.
In my opinion Kate knows the Alaska episode was probably the worst mistake she ever made for the good of her "career". She is bound and determined to prove that it was an isolated incident and she only reacted that way because of the conditions. She camped in New Zealand/Australia? and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if she's doing it again. She's so darn predictable.
Does anyone remember when 2 of the Roloff kids were alone in their RV (during a trip) and beat the living snot out of each other? It was ugly.
Wonder what goes on in the Gosselin 'bus' when cameras aren't rolling. Never mind, I don't want to know. Let's hope they are not killing each other.
That would suck so badly, having to grow up on tv and knowing that you had to think about every move you made 'cause the cameras could catch you doing something 'mommy' will 'severely' punish you for.
How does Kate not get that filming her kids for YEARS is unhealthy. If I weigh the pro's of filming - the lavish trips to the con's of filming - damaged souls....there's no contest.
Baffles the mind.
Sheeple twittered:
@Kateplusmy8 Can't wait! My ten year old daughter and I record them all and watch together.
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...including the drunken NYC bar scene and foot-lickin' fetish? Bet that was one inspirational family fun night for the 10-year-old! Hope she doesn't want to grow up JUST LIKE THAT!
Matt Roloft was interviewed by TMZ and he said the show was coming back. I thought he and Amy had had enough. Anyone else heard about this?
Personally, l never cared about the LPBW show. I watched it only if there was absolutely nothing else on tv. I didn't like how they mistreated their pets. I judge people on how they treat animals.
Today, a friend's 9-year-old granddaughter was taken off life support after a horrific car accident a few days ago. She had been trying to raise money for clean water for others on her last birthday (in lieu of gifts) and missed her goal by $80. When word got out about that through the local media after the accident, the donations started rolling in at about $1000 an hour. Her family donated not only her organs, but also her hair, to Locks of Love, because she donated it each year. THIS is a wonderful example of a giving, selfless family, from the parents right down to the little kids. THESE are the people who deserve praise and respect from society. Not people like the Gosselins or Kardashians. But you know what? They don't want it. They are humble and strong in their faith and that is enough for them! In the midst of their intense grief, they are still giving! Rest in peace, Rachel.
Ratings is where it's at. I was reading somewhere recently that TLC has lowered, their rating standard, for canceling a show to 700,000. This makes sense, cause most of their shows, have taken a dive in ratings. TLC once did great rating with all their shows, and now most of their shows do about just over a million. By regular TV standards, most of their shows would have been canceled. Geez, when reruns of network TV show are in the top ten, what does that tell you, about reality TV. I think reality TV has lost it's appeal, there are too many of them.
I traveled allot in grandparents RV doing trips down to Florida and on the east coast, stuff like that. They can be very stressful and the traveling can be boring. I was the twin's age the first time we went down there and my brother was like 8. All I remember of the travel down there was getting stir crazy from being cooped up to the fact those dinky rest stops were like heaven, my brother constantly complaning of being bored and my grandma saying every day "Stop playing and look out at the scenery." I can't imagine what the 8 are doing on this trip, must be insanity. Not to mention we've came to see that these kids get motion sickness, now RV's can be very rough not like those posh shuttle buses they are used to. My aunt suffered from it when we'd travel and I remember her popping stomach meds and downing saltine crackers. Hope none of those kids get sick.
How sad. So very sorry to hear that news about your friends' daughter PJ. You are right though,I guess kindness and helping others is not 'newsworthy' but if Khate sneezes or farts, the paps are running breaking news.
My deepfelt condolences to Rachel's family and to you.
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Not to mention we've came to see that these kids get motion sickness, now RV's can be very rough not like those posh shuttle buses they are used to.
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Where has it been confirmed that they are traveling in an RV? Did Kate come right out and say it, or is it speculation? There's so much talk about this RV. I was wondering where this info came from.
PJ, I'm sorry to hear about your friend's granddaughter. May Rachel rest in peace and may her family find peace.
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