RV Trip
9 p.m. EST, TLC, TV-PG
The Gosselins, Ashley and Jamie are on the road again, traveling across middle America in an RV for 2 weeks -- and Kate's driving! Witness the family like you've never seen them before, visiting the nation's most beautiful landscapes and attractions.
Ooo, I hope we get to see 'My Rushmore'!
Meanwhile, Hollywood Reporter has an excellent article about how the suicide of Real Housewives' cast member Russell Armstrong has shed some light on how exploitive reality television can be--not just on children, but everyone participating.
Says Hollywood Reporter:
"All about me" has become the mantra of reality TV, even if it means opening up painful private lives to cameras and sacrificing family and friends -- and even, perhaps, if it means someone might die.
...."This is the worst-case scenario for the reality TV business," says one executive who declined to be named. "It's a very public suicide of a guy who was made to look absolutely terrible on that show. This death is causing people to think hard about the kinds of people we make shows about and whether they are equipped psychologically to be television stars."....While it would be simplistic to claim that Bravo or Real Housewives of Beverly Hills producers Evolution Media were responsible for his death, they are operating in an environment that remains unregulated and inadequately scrutinized. On many shows, for instance, participants sign "360-degree deals," notes Hayden Meyer, a partner and head of alternative TV at agency APA. That means the production company can take a percentage of any income a performer earns from books, appearances and the like.
Unfettered by contracts with AFTRA, SAG and other guilds, most networks have the right to replay each episode as often as they wish or to "repackage" series to create new episodes, without paying participants extra cash. "It's a buyer's market," Meyer laments.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 486 Newer› Newest»The hypocrisy of our society soldiers on. If this were a man treating his wife and children like this there would be outcries of domestic violence. Because she's a woman, she gets a pass. But sure as heck not from me.
I'm reassured by the fact that the vast majority of people have eventually come around to realize this person's behavior toward her kids and Jon is not acceptable, woman or not.
Really try to picture a father calling his children disgusting pigs.
Really hits you, makes it all the more outrageous doesn't it? Makes you think, if he's calling them disgusting pigs out in the open what's going on behind closed doors?
Admin: You're too kind. Kate deserves what she gets. Let the TV industry see exactly how she behaves. No matter what she has (an RV or a 5 start hotel) she'll find something to complain about. I truly don't understand how someone with so much can be so mean and miserable. TLC is doing her in and she so completely deserves every ounce of it. It's the kids who have no say. Kate is an adult. She made her choices, now she must live with it.
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Uh-oh...will there be another trip to Redner's parking lot in Sinking Spring in the near future, or a stake-out along Heffner Road?
Admin, you just mentioned the very reason I started totally disliking Kate even way back in the early days. It seemed almost every woman I talked to excused Kate's behavior, saying she was justified in acting the way she does because she has eight kids, stress, blah blah blah.
I ALWAYS said if a man treated his wife the way Kate treated Jon, women would be up in ARMS over it. And justifiably so. But if a woman humiliates, insults, denigrates and verbally abuses her husband, barking commands at him like he's a dog, telling him how to breathe, controlling his EVERY FRIGGING MOVE, even wacking him on the face and suddenly it's ok?
BS. It's NOT ok. I've been married for 20 years. We both treat each other with respect, period. It wouldn't be acceptable any other way. How she treated Jon was something that bothered me before I even realized just how very exploited those kids are/were.
She was abusive to Jon, at the very least emotionally. And like any abuser, she claims everything was all his fault. She makes me sick. And Jon is soooooo lucky she left him. Whew. Probably one of the few nice things she's ever done for him.
I don't know why being partnered with Chaz would be getting the "short straw". He might be quite a good dancer. Surely no worse than being matched with Nancy Grace! And isn't ANYONE better than K8? Talk about "short straws".
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'Cause Chaz is so overweight?
I completely agree with you about Nancy (No)Grace. She's a pig.
JUST SAYIN SAYS:
My heart really breaks for the children. They are much worse than I ever thought, when it comes to social manners. Kate tweeted, she lets the kids work out their own problems, the "pecking order" as she called it. In reality, isn't that just the meaner one or one's bully the weaker? And, doesn't the weaker one usually get killed. (metaphorically speaking)
What happened to guidance, and teaching them to be good members of society. She calls her children a "gift from God" but fails to nurture and cherish them and fulfill what He has intrusted her to do with His gift.
There is a strong warning given to those who hurt a child. "It is better that, that person tie a stone around their neck and be cast into the sea, than to hurt one hair on a child's head." Maddy has become a total "mini me" of Kate. It looks like along with Hanna, Maddy is Kate's other "golden child".
OOOHH JON, GET THOSE KIDS WHILE THERE IS STILL A LITTLE TIME.
Wait a minute! Does that actress have Katie Irene's permission to use her name????
I do believe that's "plagiarism"! Time to Tweet TLC and get that Holmes woman wiped off the face of the earth. Or the Internet. Or wherever.
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HAHA That cracks me up.
Was Ashley being "mean" to Cara? What was up with that tweet question? And shouldn't a mom know if one of your children isn't getting along with a caretaker? And know the reason behind whatever is going on?!
If she is saying Ashley wasn't in NZ with them, that must be in the Top 5 Most Completely Huge Lies she has told. And to make the top 5 is saying a lot, considering only about 3% of what she says is truth.
maty is turning into a beautiful girl. she seems to have grown up a lot. she is very articulate and bright and appears to have kate figured out. she knows kissing the queens ass is the way to peace. poor cara, she cries more than any other almost 11 yr old i have ever seeen. she hasnt figured it out like maty has. cara is swimming in misery. you can tell by looking at her she is not happy in her life. its really sad. she is probably the one i worry about the most.
After tonite's disastrous show and Kate's 'fans' actually calling her out on Twitter, I predict a nervous breakdown next. She's well on her way to one...
JUST SAYIN SAID:
Kate said that they had professional drivers, but she wanted to try driving because she test drove one. Can you imagine what he thought about Kate? He probably drove straight to the first hospital and checked into the psych. ward. If he is married, I can see him running into his house, falling at his wife's feet and begged for her forgiveness for all the times he thought she was a nag.
I can't believe she said her kids could get a servant when they're rich and famous! The kids should have said,"well, Mom we made you rich and famous, so get us our servant!" She is such an entitled-sounding biotch!
Those aren't hormones, just plain bitchy and spoiled rotten.She treats her children like they're a nuisance, so impatient and ordering everyone around like a drill sergeant. She was playing with Jamie's kid and saying she loved him?
I suppose she couldn't find one of her own to play with, all eight were busy elsewhere? I find it hard to believe she did that, was she drunk? TLC can't edit what you don't give them! Geeeeshhhh, sounds like a hum-dinger of a show;I'll pass.....
Was Steve on the boring bus with her and did they have kids with them too? Tell me she didn't say FDR! OMG, she is stupider than I thought. I know who's on Mt. Rushmore and I'm from Canada- was she joking or trying to be cute?
Nevermind, stupid is as stupid does...Waste of skin.....
First off, I missed the part where Kate called the kids "disgusting pigs". Was this when they were having the mud/sewage fight? That was so interesting to watch. Kate was really getting into it with Jaime's son Clay and seemed to really be enjoying herself. And yet, it seemed that the majority of her own kids were not sure what to make of all of this - mom was getting dirty?! Should we get dirty? What if she gets mad?
I couldn't imagine walking on eggshells like that all the time.
Did you also see how one of the girls (I'm sorry - I don't watch enough to know everyone's name), I think it was Alexis, pulled a punch when she and Clay were arguing? I couldn't believe how mean the kids were to each other! How physically aggressive they all are. And none of the adults wanted to deal with them - not Kate, not Ashley, not Jaime. It's like they've all given up.
Re: Ashley being mean to Cara: Kate had apparently bought legos for Cara, Collin and Clay. Cara didn't want Clay to sit at the table in the RV with her and Collin while they were making legos. Now bear in mind, there could have been some interaction between Clay and Cara that we didn't see that precipitated the meltdown and it also sounds like the kids were cooped up in the RV's for days at a time, which I'm sure didn't help tempers any, but basically what was shown was that Cara was having a major meltdown, you had the sense that Ashley and Jaime had tried to work this out so it was win win for everyone and Cara wasn't having any of it. So Ashley took the legos away (If Clay can't sit at the table to work then none of you are working on Legos) and Cara pulled the old "But my mom said he couldn't sit near us, I'm going to tell on you" routine and that's when Ashley said "Fine, I'm tired of dealing with you" or something to that effect and threw the legos back on the table in front of the kids.
It was a bit rude, imo, but that's only because I've learned as a parent and teacher that you can't buy into a child's meltdown. You have to state the expectation clearly and succinctly and if the child doesn't follow through then you stay consistent and follow through with the consequence. You have to divest yourself of emotion when your kids are having a meltdown, not because you don't care but because if you start buying into their fit you've rewarded their negative behavior.
And when Jaime went to talk to Kate, she basically abdicated all responsibility and said Jaime and Ashley needed to deal with it. She also told Jaime that she needed to control her son. Because obviously her children can never be unreasonable.
The dysfunction is unpalatable. That's what really gets to me. These kids don't really have a chance. They're going to grow up as narcissistic and messed up as their mom.
Ok,I'm not going to bash anyone here,but I have to ask why people here,follow everything Kate.For wanting this show to come to an end,most posting here tonight WATCHED the show.TLC drew ya in and you watched!Some took the time to watch all her twitter blabs,others took the time to look up her driving record.
I have to wonder why?The Kate lovers get slammed for following everything she does,and yet you do the same.
I think the lovers have an Kate addiction.I also think most of the haters here also have an Kate addiction.It make sence why the lovers do it,but it makes no sence at all for people here to do it.You beg people not to watch,to help end the show,and yet,YOU could not NOT watch the show.This lady mades you all mad and so upset,but yet you watch.I dont get it.
I'm sure this wont get posted,but I had to ask.I'm sure the viewer ship went way up tonight,and I think it will have something to do with the people who say they don't watch but clearley they do.I just don't get it and was just wondering why?
people watch to enjoy seeing her finally get what she deserves. The show is cancelled and chances of it being reinstated are next to nil so viewership isn't really relevant. It is great seeing her putting forth her true persona and being crucified by it. There is NO 'editing' done, they are showing her as she portrayed herself - remember, this is the 'realest reality' (HER words), NOT a scripted show (AGAIN HER words on The Talk). SHE stated 'we are not scripted, did you get that, NOT scripted' - NOT an EXACT quote but close enough to count (I don't give a damn about close only counting in hand grenades and horseshoes).
NOTE TO KATIE IRENE: keep flappin your trap, YOU shoot yourself in the foot better than anyone else can.
Admin said: Really try to picture a father calling his children disgusting pigs.
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There was hell to pay for Alec Baldwin when the recording of him calling his daughter a thoughtless little pig, or something to that effect, was leaked to the press. He has bounced back, but the backlash was swift and serious.
I'd really doubt this will have the same reaction, (but one can only hope)!
I was just wondering, does anyone else smell a sheeple? baaaaa.....ck home with you!
Dallas Lady said: BS. It's NOT ok. I've been married for 20 years. We both treat each other with respect, period. It wouldn't be acceptable any other way. How she treated Jon was something that bothered me before I even realized just how very exploited those kids are/were.
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I completely agree. I had red flags with Kate's behavior and treatment of others long before I considered the fact that the children were being exploited. There is no way any woman would have justified Jon treating her the way she treated him. It's a complete double standard. I have been married almost 22 years and we - like you and your spouse - treat each other with mutual respect and graciousness. Of course, we both have our moments when we are snippy or just irritated with each other for whatever reason, but we work through it, sincerely APOLOGIZE when we've offended the other and we move on. Kate has absolutely no concept of this. Apologize? For what? Move on? Not hold a grudge? This is her thought process. She has no reason to apologize to anyone because if they would just say and do what she wants then all will be fine in her world. Jon was in a no-win situation with her. His only means of survival was to shut down and check out and just do whatever she said. I knew eventually though, even that would get old with Kate and she would dump him. She wants the drama and challenge and when he finally just threw his hands up in the air, she was done with him. On to the next.
One of my early "hmmm...something's not right here" moments with her was when the plastic surgeon offered to give her a free tummy tuck and she tried to get a boob job out of him too. I knew then we were dealing with a narcissist. You give them an inch, they'll take a mile.
Wondering if there will be hell to pay for Jamie and Ashley today.
They may have made up, but there was a lot of footage that Kate may have seen for the first time last night, and Kate, being one of the ugliest people I have ever observed, is not going to take this sitting down. Judging by some of her tweets last night, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm right.
For example, when asked if she would do anything differently, she responded, "I wouldn't have let snarky remarks get to me." Is she kidding? Almost everything that comes out of her mouth is snark!I wonder how often she gets a taste of her own medicine. I suspect most people take it quietly, so as not to incur her wrath most of the time. What a mess! Those poor kids!
Not to sounds like an ass, but people keep referring (not here but on TV) to Chaz Bono as a girl. She wants to be referred to as a man. I have read articles about this. She is a man. The a-holes on TV are so mean. This is what he wanted, so let him be who he wants to be. He is in a stable relationship with a woman who supports him fully. I think it's awful to make fun of him. Sorry, I had to get that off my chest.
*I know I'm also late to the DWTS party. I was getting my son ready for school last night. Whew, were WE UP EARLY! Middle school this year!*
Also, this whole lead foot on Kate. Does she realize there are others on the roads? Other families, children, BABIES? She could be putting them in danger? How is it she thinks she is above the law? Because her head is so big? Puh-lease. She is a has-been w/ 17 twitter followers who worship her. Maybe it's because she has gotten out of tickets before. Well, so have I. I was speeding in a work zone on the highway, didn't realize it, got stopped & the State Trooper let me off, thank goodness. I have clean record, but I learned my lesson. Apparently, she did NOT. Keep it up Kate! Lose your license with 8 kids. That'll drive ya crazy! And what if one gets hurt & you have NO means to get them help? Ass.
~Hippie Chick~
Someone on another blog said that they are putting her on a dating show. Please NO...this better be bullsh@t. Anyone hear this...or is this just more wishful thinking from her cult?
I went to school (4th grade & up) with Osten from Survivor. He's the one who ended up quitting. It really surprised me because he always had tenacity & he was always a very strong individual. They "edited" him out to be a big, spoiled brat & a baby. Yep, reality, my ass.
~Hippie Chick~
Administrator said...
Actually very rarely, a few shows get renewed after being canceled. But I would say less than 1% of shows that have ever been canceled have been renewed. I highly doubt Kate will be that 1%. Also, shows renewed are often crappier anyway.
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The only show off the top of my head that gor better is Family Guy.
Administrator said... Forget that Kate totally deserves it, I can't believe how disgusting it is for TLC to be throwing Kate and Ashley under the bus. Apparently they never read TMZ to see a reality star who was repeatedly thrown under the bus on his show COMMITTED SUICIDE.
Just proves those folks over there at TLC are scum.
I hate when "I told you so" moments happen, but I hate it anymore when they happen, and no one changed a darn thing they are doing!
How many people are going to have to commit suicide before shows stop doing this to family let alone kids?
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For the first time ever, I am going to strongly disagree with you. Russell was a minor character on that show, rarely shown, rarely spoke, showed no personality--he was uninteresting and seemed uninterested in anything social his wife was interested in. He had financial and mental issues I don't think Bravo could possibly have known about and had nearly insurmountable financial woes that he kept well hidden. Also, he had given his wife two black eyes--this was a troubled man. (This was never revealed on the show.) It's not fair at all to dump this on the network--he was given very, very little footage overall--he was too boring to watch for more than a couple of minutes. This is a man who would have committed suicide regardless. Kate, on the other hand, is the "star" of her own show, wants the coverage to be all about her, and is personally responsible for pimping her children as a vehicle to her own personal success, "stardom," and wealth. TLC has mostly edited out her horrendous behavior over the years, but last night was a no-holds-barred reveal of her true character, lack of appreciation, and constant complaining. I think that trip convinced TLC they did not want to deal with her in the future and now they aren't making any further efforts to cover for her or edit out what other people really think about her diva behavior.
There's a Clip on TLC of Jamie and Ashley regarding Kate 'running away' to get Organic Chicken and Salad-they snark that it means she will be gone for at least 2 hours (while they set up camp). They also talk about the tension. I didn't watch the show but I wondered if this was shown on the episode last night because it is pretty revealing IMHO that this is not the first time they've dealt with Kate's attitude
And a bit OT but whenever I hear the word Organic I always think of this video from "Portlandia" lol
http://www.ifc.com/videos/portlandia-is-it-local.php
The Fat-Headed bitch had to announce that she is a size 4 as she was squeezing past bodies in the RV. She said something like, If she were a size 2, it would be easier. Bitch. She just had to flaunt her smaller size in front of Ashley & Jamie.
What a horrible woman. Horrible. Jon, if you watch this crap you must be breathing a great sigh of relief that you got free of this nutbar. In fact, I can almost hear the "WHEW!" from here. But seriously...something is wrong with her. I feel those kids are in emotional danger.
I watched "Hoarders" instead. To "Just Wondering", your amazement at folks here watching should not be surprising. What concerns me is that Kate doesn't care that the editing, from what I'm reading, made her look terrible. I hope the bump in ratings will not have them rethink Kate on another show. Remember, gang, she is so oblivious that she will risk her reputation and her children's mental well- being to stay in the spotlight.
The sheeple are appalled at the show and are slamming TLC. Everyone says it was "painful" to watch. Maybe, for the first time ever, they are seeing Kate through our eyes. Not surprising they blame the editing and how dare TLC treat Kate in this way, but they always seem to forget ..... IT'S REALITY... according to Kate. It's not the editing, sheeple, you are seeing the "realist reality"of Kate Gosselin and the horrible mother that she is. Stop making up excuses. (I know you guys read here).
CORRECTION: If I were a size 2 it would be easier (meaning KHate).
Size 2?!! At Chico's, maybe.
Hmmm?? Wonder if she got her knickers in such a knot over the KIDS' fake facebook accounts???
What an effing piece of work she is!
The TV sets in my home have been TLC-free since the J&K+8 divorce announcement episode. I have also urged family, friends, neighbors, students, and hairdressers to be TLC-free all this time.
I know I should have remained TLC-clean & sober, but last night I simply could not avert my eyes from watching KHate's narcissism shown in full-on ugly.
Please credit my account for all the years I did not watch.
JudyK, I haven't watched Real Housewives but from what I've gathered the issue is that Russell was portrayed very badly in the upcoming new season. I agree with you that the reality show wasn't his only issue, but it certainly wasn't helping his life any.
The point remains that the drive to make a buck by the networks is trumping any compassion or concern for anyone involved. With all the pressure TLC put on Jon after he tried to stop filming, he could have felt helpless and hopeless enough to do something drastic. I am glad he didn't but I can picture it easily. And I wholeheartedly believe TLC cameras would have been there to capture the moment the kids were told and funeral footage, too.
This is a man who would have committed suicide regardless.
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I don't agree with this. Nobody knows who is going to commit suicide, when, or what is going to prompt it, and particularly, what the last straw will be before he/she is finally driven to it.
Red Sky At Night said... This is a man who would have committed suicide regardless.
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I don't agree with this. Nobody knows who is going to commit suicide, when, or what is going to prompt it, and particularly, what the last straw will be before he/she is finally driven to it.
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You are, of course, absolutely correct. That was not only a dumb remark I made, but also a presumptuous one.
Falling Like a Brick...
LOVE "Portlandia". Great show & great clip. That was so funny. Thanks for that! I laughed so hard the first time.
Is it me, or is she so dumb? That clue for Mount Rushmore? Mady won the dollar? She should have won the hammer and hit her mom on the head. Who plans a full trip to Mount Rushmore and does not know the 4 presidents?
Having raised 6 children, and have camped with them across the country, it can be the best of experiences.
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After tonite's disastrous show and Kate's 'fans' actually calling her out on Twitter, I predict a nervous breakdown next. She's well on her way to one...
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Do narcissists have nervous breakdowns? I thought that they believe everything they do is right, and therefore, they are above all of that. It's always the fault of everyone else.
Pants On Fire said... The Fat-Headed bitch had to announce that she is a size 4 as she was squeezing past bodies in the RV. She said something like, If she were a size 2, it would be easier. Bitch. She just had to flaunt her smaller size in front of Ashley & Jamie.
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I know...unbelievably rude and interesting that she felt the need to tell the entire world how small she is...she makes every single situation all "about her".
This bat-sh*t behaviour has been going on since the very beginning of the show. TLC always edited to at least attempt to make her look a little better. This time (didn't watch) I think they just let a lot of the footage that "in the past" would be chopped be aired.
All I want to say is "nanynanybooboo"
Wondering why: I DIDN'T watch the episode. I never watch TLC, period. I also do not follow her on Twitter. There's no need: she has a public Twitter feed, anyone can see her tweets and the tweets to her.
Before the announcement of the cancellation, I paid precious little attention to this narcissist from hell. But since the cancellation, I've been reading her twitters a bit more and commenting here more. Why? Schadenfreude. I'm sure I misspelled it. But go look it up.
No one here is obsessed with Kate. Outside of reading some tweets and commenting here, she never enters my mind. I don't have conversations about her, and no one I know watches her show. But spending a few minutes each day watching the Kate trainwreck on twitter IS entertaining in a sad sort of way. However, I do nothing to ever add to her viewership.
Just goes to show the power of numbers.
Together Jamie & Ashley were strong enough to stand up to Kate. Alone, neither was able to.
Haven't watched for years. Don't watch..your just giving "them" hope. Sounds like she has hope also. Why else would she continue with this twitter stupidity. Who knows....she could make a return. Stranger things have happened! The coast is NOT clear.
By the way, re: Kate's interaction with Clay. Not strange at all for a narcissist... I have a narcissist sister-in-law, and she chose one of my kids and one of her sister's kids to kiss up to when they were children. She sensed something in both of them. She knew she could manipulate them into admiring her and thinking everything she did was cool.
I look at it as a blessing, because it revealed a weakness in my son young that I could work on.
I spent a lot of time teaching my kids about what is truly important in life, and that it is NOT things, etc.... My son (and my niece) have grown up into wonderful adults who both see their aunt for what she is - not a very nice person at all! They feel sorry for her, but mostly feel sorry for their uncle and cousins, who have had to live with her shit not stinking all these years.. We live in another state, fortunately. :)
Hadn't seen the show in ages (in fact, never in its non-Jon incarnation) but did watch last night. Kate was even worse than I could have imagined. Truly awful. There has got to be something seriously wrong with her.
Still unable to post under my name: Not famous (not even infamous)
Tweet from Kate about the Cara/Clay incident: @JessBSN10 once I saw the footage from the other RV and have the whole story- yes, clay did nothing! :)
Takes A LOT of nerve to tell your best friend she needs to "control her son" when you are now admitting you didn't have the whole story at the time. I can't imagine telling anyone they need to "control their son" when I was nowhere near the incident.
Boy, TLC did a number on Kate. I'll have to catch a rerun sometime.
Love all the comments. Someone said on another blog Kate was filmed huffing and puffing loading up the RV and said can we stop pretend filming for a minute. Ewww... hard work wore out her lazy butt even if it was pretend, kind of like that pretend Xmas and her pretend marriage. And TLC made sure the audience knew that the RV's actually had been fully stocked before their arrival. My guess Kate never went shopping for organic food but was napping in the RV when Jamie and Ashley were talking about her.
How can Nancy Grace be a contestant on DWTS? This means leaving the precious twins, John David and Little Lucy, for weeks. Who is going to check their cribs every night to make sure that they are still breathing? Who is going to snap their pictures in their Halloween costumes? Snark...
Better yet - can't you just see her butting heads with Bruno?
Yep, yep, yep. Everyday single mom. That's our Kate. Just struggling along, trying to make ends meet.
On her 10th vacation THIS YEAR.
With the luxury of sending her RV to S. Dakota with a professional driver, and then flying out to meet it, skipping the tedious part of the trip.
Uh,huh. How many people do you know who get to do that????
Kate wanted the crew to stop pretending that they weren't there while she was packing the RV, stop pretending that she was alone and jump in and help her. She was not pretending to load the van and perhaps with adult help, but she was working hard to load bags and food etc.
I have to give her that.
I wonder if anyone else has wanted to camp/RV far away, rented a RV, packed it and then had someone drive it to say, a national park, while you and your family flew to meet it.
Never heard of that.
I watched every housewife episode last year. I disagree that Russell was rarely on. He was in every episode and repeatedly portrayed as a boring husband and inept father and the entire story arch was Taylor realizing she's not suited for him. Season 2 that we haven't seen, but Russell was a part of all summer, by all accounts involved the story arch of their divorce and him being thrown under the bus even more. I disagree that the show had nothing to do with what happened to him. I think had he never said anything negative about the show, it would be much harder to pin this on the show. But he did. He gave interviews showing his upset with Bravo, only just a few weeks before he died: "The Russell you see on T.V. has nothing to do with my real personality. He’s just a stock character created by Bravo’s evil overlords. That’s not me you see up there. It’s just a character I play on TV. Everything you see on that show is bullshit. Those Bravo bastards take every little argument out of context and magnify it for the cameras. They think that tension drives ratings, and of course they’re right.”
And in his most revealing comment yet, he also said: "This show has literally pushed us to the limit."
Russell Armstrong left a trail of bread crumbs about what contributed, at least in part, to his death that just cannot be ignored, for the sake of the future of this genre.
The only show off the top of my head that gor better is Family Guy.
That's a cartoon! LOL
Well put, Admin. Russel is speaking from the grave, literally his words can help save others if only people would listen.
I don't watch the show, but I don't care if he was on for 5 minutes or 50 minutes an episode, the fact is MILLIONS saw and it was too much for him to cope with in a healthy manner.
Saying the the man would have killed himself anyway is naive at best.
I agree with the person who said that Admin is going to have a LOT to recap. There was something different about the format of the show last night from any other episode of J&K+8 or K+8. Every moment is worth about two paragraphs. lol
A few comments about things that have already been brought up:
Kate drove the smaller of the two RVs for probably a mile or so (just guessing) - from I think the airport in Rapid City to a campground there. The professional driver then took over and you never see him again or hear about her driving.
Re: the Cara/Clay/Ashley incident. Cara was being unreasonable and having a meltdown, although for all we know Clay had done something off camera to provoke it. Ashley lost it with her. However - this is just yet another in a LONG line of incidents that had no place on television. This is a CHILD who has obviously been having problems with the show for a very long time, and who has gone through an extraordinary amount of stress in the last few years. For TLC to portray her this way, and for her mother to allow it, is just beyond comprehension. Wrong, wrong, wrong!
Re: the mud fight. I noticed that Kate was affectionate and fun with all of Jamie's children. Very strange. She acted similar towards the children she met when they went to Australia and NZ. Far warmer and kind than she is to her own. And it was strange to me that she didn't even flinch about getting mud thrown at her by Clay in the first place. She talked about it being "not a good idea" after they were all a mess, but the mud fight wasn't forced at all and she didn't show any signs of "pretending" to have fun. Makes you wonder if it's the overclean/OCD/germaphobe Kate which is a total act for the cameras.
There is a hilarious part when TLC is showing scenes from the "party bus" and the "boring bus" as they're traveling. They so totally threw her under the bus (pun intended) during this episode.
The Learning Channel strikes again - the only things they showed us that were educational were the stop at Mt. Rushmore (where Kate went on and on about it being FDR and not Teddy Roosevelt on the mountain, and even argued with someone who said it was Teddy....what a complete dumbass), a couple of animals from the RV windows, and Old Faithful (where Kate could not even say WHY Old Faithful is significant....as in "it erupts regularly-ish"). She also said that she didn't realize that Yellowstone wouldn't involve getting out and being physical, and was surprised that it was just driving through the park. Well....that's what happens when you let TLC plan your "vacation" and you do NOTHING ahead of time to research the sites you will visit and nothing when you get there (i.e. pick up a brochure! visit the visitors center and learn something!) Nope, it was just like the corn maze - get out, look at it, get the filming done, get back in. But even then, a NORMAL mother would have researched the sites ahead of time so she could explain to her children about them. Although it didn't appear that Ashley and Jamie had done so either - it's possible they did know things and weren't "allowed" to correct Kate's misinformation or lack of information.
I didn't see the show but from what I've read it sounds like TLC did to Kate what she's been doing to everyone she knows. They threw her under the bus but good!
kateplusmy8
@stxmom @mumbear9 so do mine! I pack 8 lunches every darn day!
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I knew this was coming! I called it yesterday! Kate - let them eat in the dining commons and buy their lunches like the rest of the kids! Very few kids pack their lunches. Food services offers healthy, nutritious, hot meals, as well as soups, salads and fruit! They may actually enjoy the freedom to select their own lunches every day.
One less thing for you to complain about!
Kate must have gone back to bed this morning. No tweeting yet. Either that or she's ashamed of herself. Yeah. Must be sleeping.
jenniegbrown
@Kateplusmy8 I'll always have her back. Would love to see you, me and @mkbrownlow brainstorm together! You both are AMAZING Moms!
mkbrownlow
@jenniegbrown @Kateplusmy8 JEN! KATE! In all seriousness, this would be AMAZING! You know how many girls' lives we could touch? *GOOSEBUMPS*
Brownlow Brown-Noser just isn't going to give up until she meets Kate and snuggles up with her. I hope Kate has enough smarts to see through all of this.
If I thought that she actually was packing the lunches to save money, I would say "yep, that's the way to go." I pack four lunches a day for that reason. My kids' schools offer nutritious lunches as well, but even though they are inexpensive compared to "eating out", it's still more expensive than packing them. But I'm not a multi-millionaire, and I don't pay people to build treehouses for me, or clean my house, or care for my children - I don't get my nails done or have hair extensions or take limos - etc. (I could go on all day so I'll stop now!)
I also don't think she actually *does* pack the lunches, and that the not-a-nanny does it. Which is just ridiculous - how hard can it really be to get 8 kids ready for school in the morning when they're all self sufficient as far as dressing, brushing teeth, eating, using the bathroom, etc. Someone said recently that nobody would criticize her for using help to get 8 kids ready for school - actually, *I* would. Buck up for once and do your own damned job of caring for your children.
Wondering why, I believe you've made some valid points. I truly believe both Kate's fans and her non-fans are addicted...to the turmoil that surrounds her. No one on either side wants to admit that, not one soul. The whole phenomenon should be studied by psychologists and sociologists.
She is tweeting but it isn't showing up on twitter page. I only see it on twazzup.
Ingrid said...
She is tweeting but it isn't showing up on twitter page. I only see it on twazzup.
August 30, 2011 8:03 AM
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I saw she was having technical difficulties last night.
Is she still making excuses for 'bad editing'?
knew this was coming! I called it yesterday! Kate - let them eat in the dining commons and buy their lunches like the rest of the kids! Very few kids pack their lunches. Food services offers healthy, nutritious, hot meals, as well as soups, salads and fruit! They may actually enjoy the freedom to select their own lunches every day.
One less thing for you to complain about!
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Lanc Mom, you forget that Kate is or was the spokeswoman for the "Pack Your Kids Lunch Society" or something like that. I always thought that movement was stupid (and judgmental towards poor kids who get free lunch). But she is or was the face of it, so she can never, ever, let her kids buy lunch, no matter how healthy it may be in that school.
I don't mind admitting I watched last night. Why? Because I watched this show from the beginning and stopped about a year and a half ago. I have been hoping she would be cancelled and put out to pasture. I want to see the end. I want to see her in all her nastiness as TLC turns the tables on her and allows her true self to be shown. It's as simple as that for me. She's lied about so many things and gotten away with it and now she lies and TLC promptly shows scenes that prove she lied. I DO NOT believe she has another show lined up as someone suggested. Link please?
I too caved and watched, since she's done anyway. Oh my gosh. So many things. First, she was hollering at Mady when she was packing to hurry hurry hurry.....to bring paper towels to dry the bumper of the car??? Geez, pick your battles. She yelled at her again and then said, "You should know that if you're going to be helping me, you need to be running all the time." However, she was not running herself. Then she got annoyed at the camera crew taping and said they needed to pretend they were doing a show and help her.
I felt there had to be a lot going down before that exchange between Ashley and Jamie. In fact, they alluded to several 'adult' arguments. It was hysterical when they showed the kids having fun in the party bus with them and the cameras cut to Kate cleaning under the tups' fingernails in the other bus.
The only time she really engaged with the kids was in the mud. When the kids were racing, it was at Ashley's direction (very wise of her to have them burn off steam). When they were sliding down the snowy mountain, it was Steve who was catching them.
I caught the size 4 thing too. I too wear a 2/4, but in reality, vanity sizing have made a 6/8 a size 4. My weight's the same as 25 years ago, when I wore a 6 or 8. I told a clerk at Ann Taylor that in a couple years, I'll be a size zero! It's dumb. Odd that she said that.
Why couldn't she pick up the vaccuum and carry it, instead of dragging it over the rocks like that? It's lightweight. That's when she called the kids disgusting.
And on and on.......I looked at the Kate Plus 8 facebook and judging by the comments, the tide has finally turned.
TLC filmed them in 2 RV's but I saw in a clip or photo an additional huge TLC RV plus a smaller camper that may have been part of the entourage. I can guarantee you that Kate slept in private quarters.
She's such a c word said...
I saw she was having technical difficulties last night.
Is she still making excuses for 'bad editing'?
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Not yet. lol
She'll never let them buy their lunches because it's about CONTROL.
If I thought that she actually was packing the lunches to save money, I would say "yep, that's the way to go."
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Meal plans are offered at reasonable prices, and I'm sure she could afford it. After all, if she hasn't exhausted the cash supply in their kids account for her own benefit, there should be money there - she would be justified to withdraw money for their well-being. The kids shouldn't have to pay for their own food, however. He's paying support, and she has more than enough money for the kids' meal plans. Give up the expensive NYC hair cuts and $350 shoes!
One of the things that students look forward to is being a big kid in first grade - being allowed to buy their food in the dining commons with the rest of their classmates. It's a social thing. Let them enjoy this! This also applies to the twins. This is their last year in LS and they've been toting their lunches every year. Give them a break for a year!
Tucker's Mom said... Well put, Admin. Russel is speaking from the grave, literally his words can help save others if only people would listen.
I don't watch the show, but I don't care if he was on for 5 minutes or 50 minutes an episode, the fact is MILLIONS saw and it was too much for him to cope with in a healthy manner.
Saying the the man would have killed himself anyway is naive at best.
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Naive at best? I'm not naive and had already apologized for making that dumb remark. Thanks Adm for disagreeing w/ me w/o putting me down. Since no new episodes have aired, I have no idea how Russell was portrayed for the coming season, and I think it would be in terrible taste to show any of the footage...I hope Bravo will cut it completely.
Mom in Lancaster County said
"One of the things that students look forward to is being a big kid in first grade - being allowed to buy their food in the dining commons with the rest of their classmates. It's a social thing. "
So are you saying that the students who bring their lunches don't eat in the same room as those who buy lunch? Or that children look down on those who bring their lunches instead of buying them? Or both?
I'm not trying to be critical, but I guess I disagree with a school that actively encourages separation of children into social groups based on where their food comes from. My kids go to public school - so "buying lunch" often means the child is actually anonymously receiving free or reduced price lunch, and it is not a status thing - so maybe I just don't "get it", but why all of the pressure to fit in by "buying lunch in the commons?" It has been acceptable since the beginning of time to take lunches to school in a lunch box. Just seems kind of exclusive to say that if you do that, you'll be ousted socially.
Brown-Noser Be Gone said...
jenniegbrown
@Kateplusmy8 I'll always have her back. Would love to see you, me and @mkbrownlow brainstorm together! You both are AMAZING Moms!
mkbrownlow
@jenniegbrown @Kateplusmy8 JEN! KATE! In all seriousness, this would be AMAZING! You know how many girls' lives we could touch? *GOOSEBUMPS*
Brownlow Brown-Noser just isn't going to give up until she meets Kate and snuggles up with her. I hope Kate has enough smarts to see through all of this.
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I had to laugh when I read this exchange. Sheeple defense of Kate's behavior is that putting 3 women in RV's for a few weeks is never a good idea. Can you imagine 3 women putting their heads together & "brainstorming"...when one of them is Kate Gosselin?? Not a pretty sight. Kate doesn't brainstorm. She takes over and commands everyone around here to do her bidding.
A few thoughts on what I witnessed:
Kate should be glad this show is canceled.
She is being set up to be mocked by TLC's crew. They are laughing at her, not with her, but boy, did she give them stuff to work with.
This whole trip was executed to see her melt down. The length of trip, the cramped quarters, the type of trip (we know she hates camping), the total lack of any kid-friendly stops (seven year olds might learn something at Mt. Rushmore, but they would be happier at a beach or amusement park)--everything seemed to be chosen to make this woman mentally ill.
Kate did not have a vacation stress meltdown, like I did when my mother drove the wrong way in the hotel parking lot and almost hit a bus, or when we got lost in Maine and almost hit a moose. Anyone can have one of them. You apologize and move on, after you're out of danger, well-rested and well-fed.
Kate was angry and nasty from the get-go. Clearly, she hated the idea of this trip, but was contractually forced to do it. She was nasty to the film crew, and it just continued.
There was something suspicious about Steve's presence. It was like he was there and we weren't supposed to know about it. At one point, she said there were 3 or 4 adults. Well, which is it? Eventually, he "came out of the closet" not as being gay, but as being in the bus with Kate.
Jamie's behavior was odd, Kate was right about that. Jamie and Ashley mocked her from the party bus. Ashley, ok, I can understand that (though it is still unprofessional). But Jamie is supposed to be Karte's friend. Why wouldn't she want to sit with her on the other bus so they could socialize together? Why leave Kate alone on the bus with the larger amount of smaller kids? Oh wait, I forgot, Steve was there. Or was he?
I think Jamie is hired by TLC just as much as Steve is. If Kate needs a friend, she's her friend (NY). If she needs an enemy, she's her enemy (RV trip). If she needs a servant, she's a servant (Discovery Cove).
Addicted - This is no new phenomenon, i.e. being addicted to someone's drama. It starts on the elementary playground and continues from there. The only thing remotely different is these people in reality tv get paid for it and the more dysfunctional you are the more attention you get. We've probably all known a Kate at one point. Watching her demise is sad, yes, but also cathartic. Kate becomes symbolic of all the narcissists and self absorbed people we've known and watched personally get ahead on the backs of others and watching her get what's coming to her in so public a manner gives people a sense of justice being served. It empowers us as we deal with the bullies and narcissists in our own lives.
That's my pop psychanalysis, for whatever it's worth. That'll be 5 cents please ;-) (Charlie Brown reference)
"Are these real people or is this TV?"
Eons ago there was a Kate episode when one of the boys was afraid to ride over a hose without permission and Kate floundered over a leaky faucet. I was watching with my 5 nieces and nephews when a 6-year-old asked me that question.
What would have been the correct response?
My baby sister is the mother of the 5 children who were at my home. Earlier that day her well pump had fizzled. No water. She has a huge garden -- for education, food, and pleasure. She and the kids had organized a relay of buckets from the pond to the growing veggies. The kids had fun and so did she. She just happens to enjoy activities (even work) with her chicks. I volunteered to take the 5 dirty bodies to my home for showers.
They don't happen to have a television in their home (by choice) so watching TV is a treat. I chose TLC because....
Kate's reaction that evening to her frustrations baffled my little viewers. Their mom isn't a saint (even tho' I think so) -- she is just the average mom doing her daily best.
Kate is an embarrassing mess!
mkbrownlow goes to GT. Kate's old church where they filmed an episode years ago. Not sure when she started attending the church but it's like she's trying to ride Kate's coattails to get her message across.
I would never let my daughters be part of whatever program she does. Her example of a drooling sheeple and a follower goes against her message of empowering young girls to stand on their own.
She's a walking contradiction (much like her idol, Kate)
I did watch the second showing of this mess. I do think that the conversation between Ashley and Jaime talking about Kate was completely planned. They knew they were be filmed. This would be "drama" and make it 'exciting'. The rest just occurred naturally. Planned drama. Because of desperation to make the show interesting and bring in the viewers. They needed something different. They got it. Never mind the kids being upset. THAT was a BONUS! Added drama. Eh, Kate? Who cares if THEY suffer because of the adults' 'drama'. RATINGS are so more important!
And the kids. Wow. I wish I hadn't seen some of the things they do and say. As teens they are really, really going to be a handful. Not their fault. They live and act the way they have been taught. Kate is the type of mother who thinks her kids are perfect and all others have the problem. Like she thinks everyone else is at fault except her.
When a fan asked her advice about what to do when the kids fight, Kate said she lets them work it themselves. Yes, in many case you do. BUT first you have to teach them HOW to work it out. Give them the tools to do this. It is obvious she has never done this. She made that same statement in a Q&A years ago, when the kids were only toddlers, then TLC cut to a scene of them conking each other over the head with their toys. Toddlers do not how to "work it out" between them. Lazy freakin parenting. Lazy mother. I am sickened even more of her.
I dont see the big deal about packing a child's lunch. I packed my daughter's lunch up until middle school simply because I know for a fact the lunches I made were more nutritious than the school lunch. Sure, maybe a nice private school like the G8 attend may have healthy selections, but unless I was able to read every single food label of every single item that my kid may want to eat, I just wouldnt trust that claim. How do I know that their bread isnt bleached and enriched? I may be picky, but type II diabetes runs in my family and as has been shown time and time again, diet and exercise are the prevention of this disease. So, nothing wrong with packing a kid's lunch. It is more economical and if a parent chooses, definitely healthier. Oh, I did allow my daughter to buy lunch on pizza days- she really enjoyed that.
Didn't watch, never do as we lived it here. From all of the comments, it is obvious that Kate is still Kate and hasn't changed. If she is screaming about something trivial, that's her. What a shame - if she blames editing - baloney - that is her -- too bad some children think she is a role model -- aim higher teens --- much higher and I tell you that from my heart. Reality Television always seems to attract crazies for a reason - people like to watch a trainwreck. Adults can make those choices for themselves, children need to be protected. I remember the beginning when Jon and her were so busy and they looked at the opportunity to film to film their memories. Would you want your most embarrassing childhood moments, parent meltdowns and craziness part of your family "memories" for all the world to see? And in the age of internet, can be googled with a few clicks. It is always out there for these children. Kate said she couldn't go back -- but she could of chosen to go forward with dignity and grace.
"JudyK said... I have no idea how Russell was portrayed for the coming season, and I think it would be in terrible taste to show any of the footage...I hope Bravo will cut it completely."
From what I have read, Bravo has decided to do the right thing and cut him out totally. I am glad they had the integrity to do that at least. And as far as Russell is concerned, he had been treated for depression for many years. He had some real problems, mentally, even before the show. He claimed they way overspent also, to keep the appearance of being wealthy for the show. This is not the show's fault. They certainly did not have to that. It was a choice, but it sure did add to their financial problems as well. Very sad, the entire thing.
Comments from someone who watched:
Mud fight-staged. Kate had on a second shirt, inside out. The boys all had on their black. Not all participated. Kate WAS having fun but near the end Clay kindof smakcked her face and she was clearly mad and done!
Clay was given Hannah a hard time, calling her a scientific freak or something close to that. You could see the hurt on her face, and she made a fist.
I think Clay was just needling Cara and she was having none of it. Cara seems full of saddness and wants every thing her way. I was shocked by her behavior but Mady seems to have figured out to behave when cameras are on her. Except at the eruption at Old Faithful, she wanted to "start over, do it again", about saying "her Fact" for the camera. She knows she is getting filmed, 100%.
I think we saw Ashley's true frustrations in an ongoing and loving relationship. She is the only true and stable, albeit young, person who has been loving and consistent. Cara was being a brat, Ashley called her out on it, and Clay was blamed. Seriously, almost 11 year old girl, if you can't sit at a table with a 6 year old and 9yr old boy and do lego's, YOU have a problem child!!!
I think Collin is still having big problems as Kate said the key is to "keep Collin happy"....he does seem to be pushing/shoving a lot. And Joel finally had enough and pushed him and his chair over. Hate to say this, but way to finally stand up Joel!
I think Ashley and Jamie showed that Kate is not a "true" friend. She is an employer. They are all compensated for their RV struggles. I don't feel sorry for Kate's "friends".
This show was the truest account of Kate and her kids problems. It was even hard for me to watch.
Kate just truly sucks the fun out of everything. That could have turned out to the a real ball if she had just relaxed and do what others do on vacation. ENJOY yourself. Forget about the freakin "everything must be clean at all times" or the exaggerated organization. The rules, the constant bitching and complaining. Is it just me, or has she just gone way overboard in recent years about the fans and pictures, even the paps. She is on a show, traveling with all those people plus a film crew, is not going to bring on attention? How stupid to stress over it. Not ONE pap picture from the trip. And if there were? SO WHAT? She does NOT get the press she used to, and she is panicked about it, that she sees paps everywhere. LOL So much drama over lousy pictures from fans. Without fans she wouldn't be putting food on the table. Be gracious and STFU.
I, too, cheered when Joel shoved Colin away from his chair. Colin is a bully who, I bet, is catered to in that family.
Remember the hard time the kids gave Clay on a previous episode? Maybe the basement-organizing episode. They were horrid to him then. They probably had been horrible to him again on this trip, and he was just trying to stand up for himself.
I have narcissist parents. They, too, gush all over other people's children - play with them, compliment them - but are harsh and dismisive with us kids. I recognized the narc trait when KHate was playing with Clay.
Just a couple of thoughts on last night's crapisode. First...No one in their right mind takes 10 kids on a road trip for 14 days. All three "adults" acted like brats. If this is what's raising the children of the future, no wonder Jesus wept. Clearly, Kate's nose was out of joint because she wasn't in the party bus. Her BFF and nanny were whooping it up and She got stuck with her sextuplets (although I'm sure Steve & Kate had their own little whoopy party over in their own bus).
Two RV drivers will never be the same again. I would love to hear what really happened, because reality tv all bs. If you're out there somewhere and reading here, please let us know.
TLC - I'm glad you've finally cancelled this frankenstein monster you created. Eight little lives are very nearly destroyed by your machine. I hate you.
Kate, get some kind of mental therapy. You desperately need it.
Admin - I can't wait for your recap. It's gonna be a doozy.
butterly said
"Sure, maybe a nice private school like the G8 attend may have healthy selections, but unless I was able to read every single food label of every single item that my kid may want to eat, I just wouldnt trust that claim. How do I know that their bread isnt bleached and enriched? I may be picky, but type II diabetes runs in my family and as has been shown time and time again, diet and exercise are the prevention of this disease. So, nothing wrong with packing a kid's lunch. It is more economical and if a parent chooses, definitely healthier. "
That was the point I was trying to make. :-) I think there are a variety of legitimate reasons Kate - or any parent - could choose to pack lunches for their children. Health concerns, dietary restrictions, cost, nurturing your family. So when I said that *if* she was choosing to pack them because it's less expensive, that would be fine - school lunches, even if an "inexpensive meal plan" - are expensive when you multiply it by several children. And for a school to set it up so a child will "fail" socially because they don't buy lunch at school - well, that's wrong. Parents should be able to choose how and what they feed their children without fear that their child won't "fit in". The fact that Kate can afford the meal plan is beside the point.
That being said, I don't think she truly chooses to pack lunches for any of the above reasons - I think it's either a control thing, or to be able to claim what a hardworking supermom she is.
And I will be done harping on this issue! :-)
I love how Kate told the camera crew to stop filming when she was trying to load the bag in the bottom of the RV, because at some point "they had real work to get done". So in other words she was done pretending for the camera that she loaded the RV all by her lonesome and it was time for the "servants" to come do their job, like they always do!!
"Topeka said...Mud fight-staged. Kate had on a second shirt, inside out. The boys all had on their black. Not all participated. Kate WAS having fun but near the end Clay kindof smakcked her face and she was clearly mad and done!"
Your assessment is pretty much how I feel also. Yes, I thought it was completely staged too. With 11 kids, and she singles out one? It went on and on, too. Odd. It was just odd. I have never seen her act that way with her own kids. Just odd.
" Cara seems full of saddness and wants every thing her way. I was shocked by her behavior but Mady seems to have figured out to behave when cameras are on her. Except at the eruption at Old Faithful, she wanted to "start over, do it again", about saying "her Fact" for the camera. She knows she is getting filmed, 100%.
Cara was being a brat, Ashley called her out on it, and Clay was blamed. Seriously, almost 11 year old girl, if you can't sit at a table with a 6 year old and 9yr old boy and do lego's, YOU have a problem child!!!"
Cara really worries me. She is going to have a very difficult time with the teen years, I fear. And for Kate to tell her that Clay couldn't even sit at the table with them? WHY not teach these kids HOW to get along with him? I really felt sorry for him when she said he couldn't even sit at the same table. How embarrasssing for that kid. As I said, she has NEVER given these kids the tools to get along with others. Easier to banish someone out of the situation, rather than trying to get along. Much like Kate does. And Mady, little Mady has become quite the actress alright. Every time she is filmed it is so animated and contrived. I am saddened to see this, Mady was always the one to tell the truth. Now, she seems to be becoming a mini Kate. And as others have said, she has learned how to manipulate Kate and this has become her survival.
I would think Cara and Mady are old enough to make their own food selections. Buying your lunch at that age is more acceptable among your peers. It's uncool as you get older, IMO. Like I said before, it's about control for Kate. Just like she dishes out their portions at meal time.
BTW, when I was growing up I had to always brown bag it and it got boring. I absolutely loved when I was older getting to eat the school lunches.
Forgot to mention one thing that made me bust out laughing in my earlier post. So they (she, all alone) loaded up the RVs and then flew to the first destination. Weird. However, when she wanted to drive the RV, they cut to her discarded stiletto, lying on the floor near the gear shift. Hahahaha!!!! She was all tarted up when she got there in booby shirt and those satin shorts again, for the flight, but nobody every took one picture! I don't know about you all, but I don't drive very well in bare feet. I sort of need that shoe to provide structure or something. And that's just a car - not an RV I'm unfamiliar with.
" The show is cancelled and chances of it being reinstated are next to nil so viewership isn't really relevant "
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I have a different opinion. I believe viewership is still important and it is a shame so many people who don't normally watch decided to do so. I think the numbers will go up.
Although the show is cancelled I think Kate is still being looked at for other possibilities. If her ratings are up they will still consider her for other things even if it is a show based on her bad behaviour. It may be bad behaviour but it gets people talking and watching.
I know there are comments that at least the children won't be on anymore but I don't think Kate should be either. Anything she does will just embarrass her children more.
Hopefully the ratings don't go up too much.
"No one in their right mind takes 10 kids on a road trip for 14 days."
I disagree. Large families take road trips all of the time, and families take road trips with other families all of the time. People camp all of the time. (People even camp in ::gasp:: tents!)
We took a 2700 mile road trip a few years ago with four kids/six people in a mini-van. Granted, we stayed in motels, but we have also taken long road trips where we camped in tents along the way. It wasn't eleven kids, but it also wasn't the space you have in an RV. Being able to spread out while you travel - and have someone else do the driving? - that would be heaven. Eight people in an RV would be far more luxurious than six people in a mini-van. Of course, this is assuming you like and enjoy the company of the other people in the vehicle - THAT was the problem with Kate's RV - she doesn't like or enjoy the people she was traveling with (the tups.)
My DIL is much like Kate, unfortunately.
Ugly as all get out to her own kids, but falls all over my daughter's kids. Couldn't be nicer to those two little ones, but mean as hell to her own two.
My daughter refuses to be present with that family any longer (even tho her kids are treated nicely) because she doesn't want her kids to see how badly the other two are treated. Can't blame her.
I don't want to see it either, but have no choice. I owe the DIL's kids whatever little bits of love they're allowed to get from me.
Dallas Lady said...
No one here is obsessed with Kate.
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Plenty of people here are obsessed with Kate. Take, for example, the person spending her time researching all Kate's traffic tickets, county by county. That's obsession.
Mady has probably been told by Kate to ham it up for the cameras. I think Kate will push her into show biz. I remember Jon saying Mady was exactly like Kate while Cara was much more like him. I bet if Cara had a choice, she'd live with Jon (they are two peas in a pod).
Forgot to say that Kate's chicken should have been tossed, it wasn't fit for human consumption. She was the only one who thought it was great. She needs to take some cooking classes at a community college. Kate you idiot, you don't put raw chicken over an open fire without it burning to a crisp.
She could have just picked up a bucket of KFC.
I watched for the first time in a LONG time.
She has no idea how to enjoy her children. She never talks to them, just points, yells and gives orders. While walking to Mt. Rushmore (to see FDR) she was walking FAST and acting like they might miss the mountain if they didn't hurry. She relied on the 'helpers' to make sure the kids were all there. She plowed ahead, after yelling that one of the kids had the use the bathroom, (GASP- the horror!) and didn't even glance at her children.
She said alone on her RV looking miserable and tortured. Why not play a game of Uno with the kids?
She complained that the kids didn't appreciate how hard it was for her to make the chicken over the fire. Are the kids supposed to be aware of the work that goes into meal planning? Is that part of being SEVEN?
Overall, I like Jamie more than I have in the past. She was down to earth and acted like a NORMAL person who was on an RV full of kids. She seemed like she was rolling with it and I could relate to her. Ashley was FINE and understandable. Kate and her 'stress' made no sense at all.
Last thing- Kate is a LAZY parent. She needs to spend some time with Michelle Duggar. Michelle takes the time to teach her children how to interact. Kate doesn't care how they act as long as they stay away and don't bother her.
Anonymous said... Plenty of people here are obsessed with Kate. Take, for example, the person spending her time researching all Kate's traffic tickets, county by county. That's obsession.
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Listen up tweep. Lawbreakers and child exploiters need to be watched very closely.
TMZ had a segment on her speeding tickets. People read it, and decided to look it up. It is available for public consumption. INTEREST in something is a hella difference than obsession.
Obsession is excusing this woman for every thing she does. Obsession is cheering her every little thing she does for her kids that ALL mother do every single day, without needing the fawning from others nor getting it. Obsession is having 6K pictures of her on your computer. Obsession is begging to meet with her, lunch, walk whatever with her almost daily. Obsession is wanting to date Kate, yet she ignores you for over 3 months and you still tweet her with loving, glowing supportive bs. Obsession is attacking people who do not think she walks on water. Obsession is wanting those kids to remain on TV for your pleasure, disregarding what harm this can have on them. I could on and on, but see the difference between interest and obsession?
If you are all sooo concerned with these children, you will not watch this show. Whether you believe it or not those of you who watch and then complain that the kids are being used are just as much to blame as anyone else. Love or hate her....You are still watching this show...whatever your reason. And in the process giving her ratings.
Traffic tickets are public record for a reason. People have a right to know who's out there. And who is doing illegal thing while accusing others of plagerism.
Although the show is cancelled I think Kate is still being looked at for other possibilities. If her ratings are up they will still consider her for other things even if it is a show based on her bad behaviour. It may be bad behaviour but it gets people talking and watching.
True, Kate gets people talking. However, along with her poor ratings demographic group that watches her is not the group advertisers want which is the 18-49 year olds. In order to put Kate on another channel/show the network is going to have to come up with some way to entice that group to watch her and I think that group has moved on...as will her teeny bopper fans when they grow up.
I think Mady is the smartest one of the bunch. She has learned the game. She knows what to do to keep Mommmy's psychotic tendencies in check and she stands up for her younger sibs. When the camera is on Mady knows how to behave...she knows her classmates will see this crap. I don't worry about that kid. It's the younger ones and Cara.
The earlier post that said Kate not letting the kids buy lunch at school is a control thing is right on. Also, I'm sure the school food is not (gasp!) organic. And I do believe cost is a factor. Not because she doesn't have the money, but because she doesn't want to spend the money on them.
@ Just Wondering and @ Kat: If no one watched the show, we would not know the extent of the exploitation; it's a "means to an end", nothing more. How credible would any of our complaints be if we didn't know what we were talking about?
No, I don't watch. Probably most of us who post here do not watch. Someone needs to watch, though, so that the point can be made to the appropriate sources that it is NOT OKAY for ANYone, parent or corporation, to work minor children right out of their childhoods, supporting their parent/s.
I don't believe the show would have been cancelled if someone hadn't watched, so I'm okay with that.
Although Admin has built a nice little community here at Reality Kids, there are not enough of us in our entireity (sp?) to affect the ratings. If every one of us watched it's just not that many. And I agree, as we have been told, if you are not in that 18-49 group they don't care anyway. I have no idea how they KNOW you are in that category if you are not one of the Nielsen families but in any case, she's history.
@kit...I know what you mean and I agree. I just don't want this monster to be given any kind of ratings so she can go on with this circus. Better safe than sorry. Just want her to quietly go away......yeah ...right.
My observations of the RV trip;
Kate was being Kate. Her attitude is one of someone who can not live in the moment when around the kids. If you don't want people noticing you and taking your photo, uh, leave the entourage behind. How hard is this?
The kids did not appear to be having a great or even good time. At best, they were having an OK time.
Mt. Rushmore and Old Faithful seemed rushed. Get the footage and out. Just like the corn maze.
The shitmudsludge slinging fight...ugh. Before I even get there, this montage made absolutely no sense. It's raining. I get that, ok. What was planned anyways? Why not put on rain ponchos and do it anyway? So, you get wet. Why is this a reason to stay indoors in the RV park all day.
There are NO towns anywhere around? Find *something* to do! Bowling? A movie? Anything? Beueller?
Is the only option filing the kids out in front of the staged and waiting cameras to have them stand in a fricking creek? Really?
Then the slinging of schmegma of unknown provenance?
Look, that was all for the cameras. Kate's a sly one and she knows damn well by now what's going to make the highlight real and what's going to wind up on the cutting room floor.
It was gratuitous and gross even by my standards. I would take no joy in it whatsoever. And THIS coming from a girl who got thrown into the manure pit several times in my youth!
Kate not knowing the day's itinerary was weird. So, the kids need to get out of the RVs like my dogs need to go out to pee. Stop at the side of the road and let them trapse around in snow. Oh, on a really, really steep hill in bare feet yet. Why?
I was bored and didn't finish viewing, but I did note the highlighting of the kids' infighting and the one girl who had to check her fist at the door when she came very, very close to hauling off on Jamie's son.
That was shocking to see a very cute little girl have such an enormous flash of anger.
The only thing wrong with Cara's outburst was the camera crew hustling to follow the drama as she went to Kate for resolution. She was bored, bothered, not happy and I don't blame her.
The trip thus far seemed very poorly planned.
I wish the kids got to go to BHI without the cameras, cramped quarters and broadcasted drama.
Not's not even a close call.
JUST SAYIN says:
One thing, among many, that bugged me is that, every time Kate promoted this episode, she would say something like, watch this episode, it's full of fun Xs, and, eek! She new the worst of her meltdowns were going to be seen, but she seemed to be excited about it. NOW THAT'S SICK!
Having not watched, I can only surmise from posts on other blogs that apparently there where issues with Kate's RV such as the microwave and fridge not working and Kate got stressed? Let me see.....how many RV's were on this trip? 2, 3 maybe 4. Where these appliances really broken or was this pretend?
xyzzzzzzz said...
The only show off the top of my head that gor better is Family Guy.
That's a cartoon! LOL
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And STILL better than Kate+8!!!
@Kat: we can always hope, right? :-)
JUSY SAYIN to:
squattmunkieRN said...
I think Mady is the smartest one of the bunch. She has learned the game. She knows what to do to keep Mommmy's psychotic tendencies in check and she stands up for her younger sibs. When the camera is on Mady knows how to behave...she knows her classmates will see this crap. I don't worry about that kid. It's the younger ones and Cara.
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I respectfully disagree,but it's only my opinion, Mady is a mini me of Kate. Did you see or hear Mady violently yell at Hanna for saying what she was trying to say before she could say it. And as for the issue with Cara and Clay, When Cara was yelling at Clay to "go away", Collin was slowly and sneakingly (pardon my incorrect word) trying to push Clay off the bench with his foot. Then when Cara got up to go cry to her mother, she shoved the side of Clay's head.
I don't mean this as a bash to the kids, but this is an example of Kate's "pecking order," which she said, in her own words, is the natural way we are to handle things. That's her excuse for not having to take care of,or deal with her children. She is lazy mother!!!! These kids are bullies. It's very sad, but true.
TLC Stinks......
Would it be too out of the realm of possibility that TLC buggered with the microwave and fridge to stir up drama?
You know......
Producer: "OK, when she's not looking run in there and unplug the microwave. That should be good for some screeching.
OH! Better yet, unplug the fridge too. We can get our drinks from the other RV, but it will make excellent footage when kart tries to get her cold drinks while the driver drives."
Production Assistant: "OK. But I'm wiping my fingerprints off the cords and if you tattle on me, I'll make you ride with her for the rest of the trip".
Off camera - Production Assistant seen whispering in cell phone to other camera people:
"Hey guys, plan is implemented... stand by for spontaneous shitfits for the next 6 hours... keep your cameras running!"
3rd Production Assistant: " Oh crap, man... I'm riding in the other bus! I had to listen to her all day yesterday. It's your turn today".........
@ wondering why - I just wanted to say that your post on top was nicely put and worded. As if you wanted to actually have a proper discussion about different view points. That is not how most Kate fans post.
I cant answer your questions because I havent watched the show for 4 years, (at all), and I dont look for things on the internet regarding that woman.
My opinion is that she uses her precious children as her possessions to sell publically to her 'fans' as she sees fit. Her demeanor and attitude towards her children is very abusive, not 'stressed', but abusive and mentally ill. By all accounts her viciousness and abuse of her children has gotten much worse, as has her mental illness.
Apparently there are no laws to stop her from this video child-trafficing as she and her lawyers are being paid handsomely by TLC to continue it. There are no laws to stop the viewing by YOU or to stop the sale of the DVDs. The children have only your morality to rely on.
The verbal and physical abuse from their mother seems to pale in comparison to the mind games she plays on them. As I said, I dont watch the show anylonger, but children who are kicked out of kindergarten for rage issues, after already being held back a year, are clearly growing up damaged. A damage that cannot be undone.
I dont think I am addicted to hating Kate Gosselin. But I do thank God that I have not become numb, blase', accustomed to, or even CHARMED by the sickness that the childrens' mother so proudly is raising them with.
PS - if she is as 'stressed' by having children to raise, as she proclaims so clearly on a daily basis, she has the option of surrendering their custody to someone else.
Ane here's a random thought......
I wonder how she assigned the RV potty? I cannot imagine she'd use an RV bathroom shared with many other people.... ewwww, as kart would say. Those facilities can get pretty rank after a day of use by many, many folks....
They are not bad with a family of 4 but can't imagine 12 people using one. I bet she made the crew bring a cleaning person (aka - servant) to clean the potties several times a day. 3 little boys, and men too... that floor would be yellow and sticky. Ick.
I have to wonder if she made all the kids use the potty on one RV and she used the one exclusively on the other, with purseboy standing guard so no little kid could get in and "dirty it up"...
HA! What am I thinking - I bet she made them stop every couple of hours at fancy restaurants and hotels so she could use the facilities.
I imagine purseboy trying to stop women from going into the bathrooms so she could pee pee in private.
Yep, I cannot WAIT to read the recap!!!!!!!!!
Oh dear, I just realized I have now added "kart's potty issues to the list of kart's sex life"
Bad, bad me............ LOL
What's with TLC, anyway? Their shows are SOOOOOO formulaic and repetitive. With LPBW, we were 'treated' to someone else's RV vacation, complete with meltdowns, very similar to K8. With The Little Couple, LPBW, the Duggars, and K8, we got to watch them all "give back". The Duggars and K8 show birthday parties for the kids, and The Little Couple shows extravagant birthday outings for Jen and Bill (no snark here - no kids are being filmed). Even Cake Boss goes on vacation (to Italy!). I've never seen any other TLC shows, so I have no idea if these themes carry over to any of the other shows, but I can't imagine that TLC can continue to make any money if they keep showing the same things.
JudyK said...Russell was a minor character on that show, rarely shown, rarely spoke, showed no personality--he was uninteresting and seemed uninterested in anything social his wife was interested in.
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Hi Judy. I mean no disrespect to you at all, but that gentleman was not a "minor character" on a "show", no matter how 'uninteresting' he seemed to be. He was a real man who agreed to, and accepted money for, cameras peering into his personal life.
yes, I agree with you (if I am reading you correctly) that suicide is the final result of a deeply troubled life, and lack of coping skills. Can it be attributed to one event like that TV show? Billions of people the world over had never heard of him; one of his options would have been to remove himself from in front of the cameras and reclaim his privacy. To this day I am not sure I have seen a pic of him or can recall his name off the top of my head.
Can I say something without getting beat up? I know some of you are watching because it's the end & what's the point...buuuutttt....it's just stroking Kate's ego. Kind of like "Hmm, people are SO sad to me go. SEE TLC, see see see!!! People are watching now!" I KNOW she is canceled & she has no redeeming qualities, but a slight spike in ratings is just gonna swell that wench's head.
I'm just making a point & I'm not trying to be preach-y at all. I would just hate to see her on twitter be all high & mighty about a ratings spike. Ya know?
~Hippie Chick~
Did anyone elas find it funny that when Maddy was tellinhg Kate how she's annoying and she's the problem. Was funny I DID loved it. And Kate said nothing.
Also Kate was a huge B-Itch through the whole epis. I felt sorry for Jamie & Ashley (& Jamie's kids) Pluse Kate didn't know the president even more funny.
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JUST SAYIN says:
One thing, among many, that bugged me is that, every time Kate promoted this episode, she would say something like, watch this episode, it's full of fun Xs, and, eek! She new the worst of her meltdowns were going to be seen, but she seemed to be excited about it. NOW THAT'S SICK!"
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Last night she promoted next week's show too. Be sure and watch for MORE drama! I also noticed the bad attitudes got the best of "some". CERTAINLY, not martyr Kate, I am sure!
Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
It was another rough one...bad attitudes got the best of some... Watch next week... For more drama... And some fun too, I hope!
She threw Jaime and Ashley so far under the bus on twitter last night, it is absolutely sickening. Of course is it was ALL them and certainly not Kate. This woman is so sickening with her martyr routine, I just can't stand it. And of course the fans ate that up. It was staged to cause drama, now Kate is lapping up the sympathy and playing it for all it's worth. When asked if they all apologized, Kate said "I did......but.." What a saint. What a kind soul. UGH
@Truth_Teller201Truth Teller
@Kateplusmy8 Jamie and Ashley were acting like high school mean girls. Ashley had an attitude from day 1. She took advantage of you.
@Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@Truth_Teller201 yeah, not sure what happened with them...
@goteesistaKay D
@Kateplusmy8 Looks 2 me like u're the only 1 actually parenting! Don't think ur "friends" should've been talkin bout u like that, either :/
@Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@goteesista agreed! :(
MidnightBooAmanda
@Kateplusmy8 j and a probably felt like they had to perform for the cameras
Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@MidnightBoo possibly!
THEY had to perform for the cameras??? Kate agreed?? But of course, Kate didn't perform for the cameras right? Geez this woman and her fans are totally ridiculous.
I'm just making a point & I'm not trying to be preach-y at all. I would just hate to see her on twitter be all high & mighty about a ratings spike. Ya know?
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I know you're not preaching ;-)
I was up and watched the midnight showing, which had me sleeping within the hour!
I haven't watched the show in years, but just gave in to my curiosity, mostly to see how TLC handled things. It has seemed to me that TLC is giving everyone the big picture, with the whole cast of characters that has been hidden for years.
It's like "Hey folks, the jigs up! This is what it's really been like all these years!"
It's been very interesting, to say the least.
I also want to echo something said way upthread and that is the episode felt very different, from the almost ominous text on the screen (what is this, 48 hours?) to the general ennui that belies how great a trip like this could be.
It just seemed sluggish; maybe it was all the rain.
watched online first 2 parts of this episode - waiting for the last part to be uploaded. I mean no disrespect to the kids as I see their behavior a result of their upbringing - but honestly - they were downright mean to Jamie's son. One was throwing stuff (rocks?) at him, girl tup brandished her fist at him, another complaining about him at Mt Rushmore and I haven't even gotten to the Lego scene yet. There were a couple of times where it seemed like TLC left the cameras running just to catch those little moments of nastiness. And then they didn't bother editing them out of the final production even though they didn't have anything to do with the immediate storyline. They just left them in, often with no background music going on either. It was weird. Why would you purposefully include stuff to make the kids look bad?
I watched last night for the first time in years. Why not? It's the END.
Does anyone know anything about Soka? Have not seen him lately and was wondering if he was still around.
Oh and please don't say Kat'e trying to be Asain I'm a quater Asain love it I have the eyes and dark hair so please don't put Kate with that-lol
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Yes, the G kids do seem to go all Lord of the Flies on Jamie's boy, don't they? Cara's shoving his head was really uncalled for and I wonder if Kate was told about it, or did anything about it once she saw it.
For me, that would have meant an immediate grounding and/or other punishment. You NEVER hit.
I was really shocked to see this. As her mother, I'd be appalled.
I've been lurking here for a while. I did watch K8, but at the second showing. Three things about Kate: Anal, paranoid, anger issues. Clearly from the start, Kate did not want to go on this trip, she would have wanted to go to a 5-star hotel trip. Kate was already angry and annoyed, while packing the suv. Then once they got to the RV she was still having anger issues, in the form of complaining. It was not big enough etc. Tell me people, how does one break a frig door, and have a TV not work or a microwave suddenly stop working, when all was working before Kate entered?? And this was only in Kates RV. Anger issues? Did Kate throw a temper tantrum, in the RV and break the frig door. Break the micro, in a temper tantrum.? Kate was getting paranoid by the public, who probably could careless she was there.(at Mt Rushmore)
. For a person who is a clean freak, who had to clean the RV, top to bottom, she sure didn't let that one twin wash her hands. As for that sludge mud, which smelled, and looked to me as sewage, Kate let the kids, throw it, and spread it all over themselves and herself. I've seen stuff like that, it was sludge sewage. I would not even let anyone touch it. Kate also freaked out, when Jamie was going to hand shred the lettuce. And what kind of teaching, you give your kids on, letting them resolve their differences, by themselves. Those kids are too young to understand fully the concepts of resolving their fights and arguments, they need a mediator, to prevent the children from hitting each other, thinking that this is how we resolve things. Cause, the Gosselin 8, do hit each other, one of the twins hit Jamie son, two of the tups were almost to the hitting stage in their fight about the chairs, resulting in one tup pushing the others chair over, with the kid in it. Bad mothering there. The most ridiculous thing so far, is Kate quest to have organic food. You are on a trip in the middle of nowhere, eat the local stuff! or bring the organic food with, is what I thought she did.? My favorite stuff so far: one of the twins saying mom is stupid. Ashley & Jamie making fun of Kate(behind her back and not in earshot of her), and Jamie's son Clay throwing that mud sludge stuff, at Kate! Best parts.
I was really shocked to see this. As her mother, I'd be appalled.
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I agree, but HER mother is Kate.
Some took the time to watch all her twitter blabs,others took the time to look up her driving record.
I have to wonder why?The Kate lovers get slammed for following everything she does,and yet you do the same.
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Good point. Maybe it's time to re-evaluate myself. I can't think of any reason to 'follow' what's going on with Kate other than enjoying watching her demise. And that's not really healthy, is it? Thanks for the reality check.
Anonymous said... Oh and please don't say Kat'e trying to be Asain I'm a quater Asain love it I have the eyes and dark hair so please don't put Kate with that-lol
Summer
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Aww sweet Summer, congrats on being proud of your heritage. It's spelled A-s-i-a-n.
anontoo said...
Aww sweet Summer, congrats on being proud of your heritage. It's spelled A-s-i-a-n.
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Aww anontoo, can you spell s-n-a-r-k-y?
It really surprised me because he always had tenacity & he was always a very strong individual. They "edited" him out to be a big, spoiled brat & a baby.
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So Kate was a victim of editing? If you believe that reality tv 'edits' people then you believe Kate is 'edited out' too. Which is it?
Did she think if she kept insisting it was FDR (one of the Roosevelt guys, she said dismissively when she was corrected) on Mt. Rushmore they would change the presidential identity? Way to educate your children on the country's history -- she is clueless.
Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
It was another rough one...bad attitudes got the best of some... Watch next week... For more drama... And some fun too, I hope!
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Watch next week... For more drama?
What's left? Kate has a fist fight with someone? Good Lord! That woman is a masochist.
Kate + 8 is too damn painful for watch.
I just don't understand what kind of sick pleasure Kate's fans get out of watching her being in such a bad state of mind.
P.S. I think Cara is crying for help, and no one is listening. Apparently in that house, the only way you get attention is by having an explosive fit.
Just Dwindle Away said... JudyK said...Russell was a minor character on that show, rarely shown, rarely spoke, showed no personality--he was uninteresting and seemed uninterested in anything social his wife was interested in.
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Hi Judy. I mean no disrespect to you at all, but that gentleman was not a "minor character" on a "show", no matter how 'uninteresting' he seemed to be. He was a real man who agreed to, and accepted money for, cameras peering into his personal life.
yes, I agree with you (if I am reading you correctly) that suicide is the final result of a deeply troubled life, and lack of coping skills. Can it be attributed to one event like that TV show? Billions of people the world over had never heard of him; one of his options would have been to remove himself from in front of the cameras and reclaim his privacy. To this day I am not sure I have seen a pic of him or can recall his name off the top of my head.
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I would never take what you just said as disrespectful. Things are coming out about Russell...the day (one day) after his suicide, his business partner was found with a bullet hole through his head and that death was also ruled a suicide...can't blame that on the show.
And I'm not saying that reality shows have no responsibility, but whatever happened to personal responsibility? No one forced any adult to take part in these shows...and that is where Kate differs from the adults who consented to be filmed...young children have no say in such things, and, for that reason, I think Adm and this blog have done a remarkable job in bringing public awareness to the exploitation of children. And I think it will make a difference in the future.
Not sure where everyone is watching this episode on youtube? Every link I have clicked on there said it is copyright infringment and you can't watch it. Does anyone have a link? I appreciate it and thank you in advance!!! :)
From Roadrunner Blog:
Kate Plus 8: "RV Trip"
Published - Aug 30 2011 06:54AM EST
By Stewart Mason
Everybody Hates Kate
After an episode last week that had me almost kinda liking Kate Gosselin, the producers of Kate Plus 8 resume their campaign to remind everyone how awful she is.
Deceptive Foreshadowing
We start on Day 13 of a two-week cross-country RV trip with a screaming meltdown near the Grand Canyon between Kate, her best friend, Jamie, and nanny Ashley, the show's only likeable adult. This is the clip they've been promoting all season, but we'll have to wait another week at least to see the whole thing, because this turns out to be a two-part episode. Hmph. Rip-off.
This Can't End Well
It's no surprise that the trip ends in tears, since even when she's packing for the trip, Kate's already on the verge of snapping, yelling at the kids and sighing, "I'm so over this, I can't even tell you." Ironically, I had just said the exact same thing to my wife about this show.
Summing Up the Entire Series
After being stuck in an RV park in South Dakota in the rain for two days, everyone pours out to run around in a nearby shallow creek. Jamie's obnoxious son, Clay, starts a massive mud fight in this vile-looking, sticky, smeary mud, which quickly coats everyone involved.
No Pictures, Please!
After all this, they end up spending roughly three minutes at Mount Rushmore, because Kate starts freaking out that someone might take her picture. Ashley and Jamie, who by this point have started openly mocking Kate in front of her own children, rightly dismiss her paranoia. It's increasingly clear that the viewers aren't the only ones sick of Kate's histrionics.
Truer Than She Knows
As the RVs are being packed, Kate turns to the camera crew and snaps, "At some point, we're going to have to stop playing we're filming a TV show and really work, because I'm really done." You and me both, lady. Luckily, in two weeks, we all get to stop playing and you'll get to find a real job. Good luck with that.
Are you as fed up with Kate's passive-aggressive, control-freak tendencies as Jamie and Ashley are? How would you feel if you were stuck in an RV for two weeks with this lot? And do you have any predictions on what job Kate will get when she's forced to return to the real world?
Classic Quotes:
Packing #1
"You should know by now, when you're helping me, you should be running at all times."
- Kate to one of the twins who isn't moving as fast as Kate thinks she should.
In the RV #1
"People leave my life, I keep on going."
- Kate after the Grand Canyon fight.
In the RV #2
"Hold hands, so if we die, we die together."
- One of the girl triplets when Kate starts driving the enormous RV.
Anonymous said...
Did she think if she kept insisting it was FDR (one of the Roosevelt guys, she said dismissively when she was corrected) on Mt. Rushmore they would change the presidential identity? Way to educate your children on the country's history -- she is clueless.
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Wow. How incredibly embarrassing.
Really.
What an idiot. PICK UP A BOOK, OR GO ONLINE, KATE. RESEARCH AMERICAN HISTORY! RESEARCH SOMETHING- ANYTHING. Just shut up and learn for a change.
I give up.
Considering that there are real people with real problems in this world, I agree with the comment that "Kate is an embarrassing mess." This manufactured drama must stop on television. The results will not be good. It may be the "train wreck" effect, but that is not healthy. It's obvious that Kate will get involved in anything for the money, regardless of how she is represented. Sad, really. This recap will be one of the toughest to do, Admin. Best wishes.
First, sorry about being anonymous - it is the only way I can get a post through. I don't mind "claiming" my comments!
I haven't watched for years. Got sucked into these final episodes to see Kate's melt downs. I recorded the 11:00 repeat and watched this afternoon. Hoping it is safe since she has been canceled . I had been following here - enjoying the recaps and comments for an astute group of posters.
So, I thought I had an idea how she was behaving -- BUT, I did not.
I could not spend an hour with this woman. She barks orders upon orders upon orders. She makes rules just for the pleasure of ruining a moment. She does not have conversations or explanations. She just wants to be in control of everything. "You should know by now that when you are helping me you need to run...run." What? She has no respect for her children and takes no pleasure in their existence.
She barks at the kids all the time to be quiet, but she shrieks, yells and erupts into high notes like some bad opera star with no restraint.
She insists obsessively that Jamie chop the lettuce not tear it, but when Jamie makes a comment about onions flavoring the cutting board, Kate justifies her technique by saying they can't be particular because they aren't at home. The demands she makes aren't for results -- they are just to feel in control. She is ill!
She would die for her kids -- well, more like she is killing her kids. She pecks them to death. She is crushing their spirits.
She kept talking about packing and organizing and how full the RV's were, but did anyone notice that when she opened two drawers while preparing the first breakfast that they were virtually empty?
Many of her comments clued us about the filming. "I think this is a cut." "We got the shots, we are out of here." "I think we need to stop playing making a TV show." (Those quotes might not be exact, but they are darn close.)
Also, I think she drove a total of 3 minutes - started up and then again when they pulled into a parking lot. I am sure the in between was done by the professional driver.
Will I watch next week? Don't know if I could take another sickening, sinking feeling.
She has been slinging sh-t for a long time, but in this show she actually does play with sludge.
Tried to post earlier but I don't think it went through. I've been without power/internet, etc since the hurricane but am finally back.
Upthread there was mention of Kate being seen in Rockefeller Center, NYC. This is where many of the NBC shows tape, especially the talk and news shows. Has there been any info on an interview?
TLC stinks said...
From Roadrunner Blog:
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Link please. I've Googled Roadrunner blog but can't find it. Thx.
Ugh, just reading comments on this episode makes me a bit nauseous. I feel bad for the kids. Not just for having to live through it, but because it had to air just after they went back to school. Nice way to try and fit in and make new friends...
Lancaster Mom, can you explain a bit more about the whole bag lunch- uncool bought lunch- cool thing? From what I do know about their school, I've never exactly been overwhelmed by its greatness (I'm not impressed easily when it comes to schools), but always thought it was at least ok. If it is turning lunch into a social battlefield for 7-12 year olds though, then that is a whole other story.
From INF (apologies if this has been posted -- I'm catching up!)
America is gearing up for season 13 of Dancing with the Stars. Can you even believe there’s been a dozen seasons of the show already!?!?! Oh the memories.Kate Gosselin clip clopping on stage like a horse
I haven't watched the show in almost 3 years and I thought I'd give it a try last night, but I wasn't able to stomach much and I feel like I need a shower.
The first thing that I noticed was Kate moaning about how long she'd been packing; while taking brand new clothes off of hangers for the girls and checking the sizes. Hey, Ms Organized, this is something that a truly organized parent wouldn't be doing the morning before a cross-country trip.
As we've discussed many times on this blog I noticed that Kate did nothing to prep the kids for this trip educationally (and she admitted she did nothing to educate herself either). Using the excuse she can't give them details of their trips because she word would get out is BS. She blew soooo many opportunities to teach the kids about the geography, history, wildlife, and culture of the many places they visited. Nothing new, I guess, but noteworthy nonetheless.
I Googled the Crazy Horse monument and found that it's only 17 miles from Mt. Rushmore. It's too bad they spent 2 weeks traveling 3400 miles and didn't visit this landmark. Was this on Kate's bucket list?
It was interesting to hear Ashley and Jamie comment the big deal Kate made when anyone tried to take pictures of them. Kate needs to get over her over-inflated opinion of her importance and popularity. She's spent the last 7 years exploiting every facet of their lives and I don't think a few photos by the public is going to hurt anyone.
I heard Kate complain multiple times about breakdowns - the tv, dvr, and the door fell off the refrigerator. BIG DEAL How many millions of people have traveled across this country without having a tv or dvr and movies to entertain their kids? So what if the door fell off of the fridge - tape it back on, as the RV drivers did very easily and move on.
As for the lego controversy; how ridiculous was ?Cara for saying she wouldn't ride 'backwards' and wouldn't sit on the opposite side of the table (this goes on in families all the time)? So what - they either decide to get along or imo, the decision is simple - none of them get to play.
Kate's decision was WRONG in every level, but mostly that she chose the side of her child instead of backing the decision that had been made by 2 adults who were in charge. I can picture Kate undermining the authority of a nanny, babysitter, teacher, and yes, Jon, too. The lessons she's teaching her kids (from the many I saw her demonstrate in just the few minutes I watched) will only cause them problems later in life.
I'm so hope TLC is done with the Gosselin family. There is nothing left to watch. Kate proved once again, everything that we've been saying about her for a long time and watching more of the way she treats her family and others serves no further purpose.
In the first few moments she says, "I have always dreamed of taking the kids on an RV trip to see the country." Dreamed -- yes. Planned -- no. She had no info about any location they visited. Actually, she spouted false facts at Mt. Rushmore and Old Faithful. She hated everything about the lavish RV and complained for miles. Guess that dream she had was more like a nightmare.
It's more like wherever production is sending her is someplace she's "always dreamed of going".
That woman needs to stop all the dreaming and come into the real world.
Last night's ratings courtesy of tvbythenumbers:
Kate Plus 8
TLC 9:00 PM 1.372
Adults 18-45 0.5
Credit where credit is due -- she did use the word "iconic". Wonder where she read that?
Does anyone know where you can watch this on the net?
She announces 11 children and 3 adults. OK. Steve? The professional drivers? The TLC crew? By the way, where did all of those uncounted souls eat and sleep? Were the paid drivers also the people who tend.ed to the bathrooms and put down the storage wings? She definitely indicates that was the responsibility of others.
Good/Bad -- once the show is over the kids may never take a trip with Kate again or once the show is over the kids won't be traveling with Kate ever!
TLC Parentables has a new blog post from Kate dated today. Only problem is that it's the same post from last year about the kids going back to school.
I checked the schedule for 9/12. TLC is having a marathon starting at 3pm, showing all of the birthday episodes, starting with when the twins turned 6. They are also showing the "divorce" episode. There is no description for the final episode.
Well, her ratings are up slightly, thanks to all the lookie-loos who just have to watch a train wreck. But,keep in mind that the ratings for last night are only about where they were a couple of times in June and in April of this year.
More importantly, ratings for the entire K+8 series indicate that almost 3.4 million people checked out her new show in June of 2010 and then quickly tuned out. The show lost TWO MILLION viewers and never recovered. That is why it has been canceled, and that is why it will not be picked up anywhere else.
2010 Ratings:
June 6, 2010: 3.376 million viewers - Episode one
2.996 million - Episode two
July 11: 2.229 million (0.8 A18-49)
August 31: 1.613 million (0.8 A18-49)
September 6: 1.389 million (0.6 A18-49)
September 13: 1.415 million (0.6 A18-49)
September 20: 1.605 million (0.7 A18-49)
November 7: 1.331 million
November 28: 1.302 million
2011 Ratings:
April 4, 2011: 1.306 million viewers (0.5/ A18-49)
April 11th: 1.214 million (0.5 A18-49)
April 18: 0.874 million (0.4 A18-49)
May 2: 0.681 million (0.3 A18-49)
June 6: 1.214 million (0.5 A18-49)
June 13 : 1.434 million (0.6 A18-49) Episode One
1.297 million (0.5 A18-49) Episode Two
June 20: 0.938 million (0.3 A18-49)
June 27: 1.000 million (0.4 A18-49)
August 8: 1.092 million (0.4 A18-49) Episode 1
0.907 million (0.3 A18-49) Episode 2
August 15: 1.325 million (0.5 A18-49)
August 22: 1.038 million (0.3 A18-49)
[9:30 - Repeat episode: 0.810 million (0.3 A18-49)]
August 29: 1.372 million (0.5 A18-49)
TLC stinks said...
Classic Quotes from Stewart Mason's Roadrunner Blog:
Packing #1
"You should know by now, when you're helping me, you should be running at all times."
- Kate to one of the twins who isn't moving as fast as Kate thinks she should.
In the RV #1
"People leave my life, I keep on going."
- Kate after the Grand Canyon fight.
In the RV #2
"Hold hands, so if we die, we die together."
- One of the girl triplets when Kate starts driving the enormous RV.
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Thanks for posting that blog entry, TLC stinks :o)
Holy frijoles, that Katie Irene is a NIGHTMARE.
I watched the second showing, you could all but see the trowel marks in the planted "mud." I hated it - could hardly understand a word Khate as saying. She appeared manic or worse. 1.372 is an increase but the last JK8 show got 10 million so not good for a series that is saying goodbye.
http://www.rr.com/entertainment/tv/article/rr/47851768/49885116/Kate_Plus_8_RV_Trip_
Kate Plus 8 TLC 9:00 PM 1.372 0.5
I checked the schedule for 9/12. TLC is having a marathon starting at 3pm, showing all of the birthday episodes, starting with when the twins turned 6. They are also showing the "divorce" episode. There is no description for the final episode.
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9/12 9:00pm
Kate Plus 8
The Finale
TV-PG
Kate and her 8 kids have made unforgettable memories over the past 7 years of filming. As the show comes to a close, the Gosselins say goodbye to the fans and reminisce about their favorite memories. Also, hear from family friends about their experiences.
http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/daily.html?date=20110912.255
So what's the deal with her twit about 'giving' her high chairs to the new sextuplets in PA?
"Give" as in: you give me money and I'll give you the chairs? She might actually think she can get a photo-op out of it.
I'm not surprised she twatted this - she thinks she is getting points for 1)reaching out to the new mom, 2) "giving" something away, and 3) letting us know she is finally, finally, finally letting her kids sit in big-kid chairs.
Transparent as glass.
I bet she thinks she'll get a walk-on role in the new sextuplets show as the veteran tup mom. I bet she thinks she'll be able to slide right on in on the coattails of the new parents.
Lord help them if they agree to do a show, and my personal message to any other moms, HOM or not: stay FAR away from toxic kart.
Off Topic for a minute, if you don't mind. This is a brilliant piece of writing by a reporter from CNN on the casey Anthony verdict. Really! Take a break from Momster for a few and read it.
http://worldinfohub.net/2011/08/30/the-casey-anthony-jurors-an-american-disgrace-by-linda-paris/
I didn't watch the show and I don't plan to watch the show, but I'm sure looking forward to Admin's recap. Sounds like it was designed for snark. I don't envy you, though, Admin.
Someone upthread said that Cara and Jon are like 2 peas in a pod and that Mady is turning into a mini-Kate. I agree, except that I think Mady is far more intelligent, and I also think that down deep, she has a very good heart. The irony is that in one of the early shows, Kate said that Cara is exactly like her and Mady is like Jon. I can still see Jon rolling his eyes heavenward over that one LOL!
Is it possible that Cara wouldn't ride backwards because it makes her sick? We know that at least some of the kids are prone to motion sickness, and that one's a classic trigger.
Kate obviously never read any cookbooks. All the ones I'm familiar with say that lettuce, and other greens, should be torn, not cut. They keep their flavor better, and stay fresh longer, that way.
It's a shame that the trip was apparently a "hurry up and film then get the hell out of here" affair. There are so many kid friendly activities in S. Dakota. The kids would have loved the begging burros in Custer State Park, which is just down the road from Mt. Rushmore. The Badlands are breathtaking and the kids would find them exciting. There's the outdoor Passion Play in Spearfish, just about an hour from Rapid. If they went East, they could have seen the Laura Ingalls Wilder outdoor pageant. There's the Corn Palace, the doll museum, and so many other things they could have done. It's a shame that Kate was more interested in making a TV show than in educating and enjoying her kids. The kids will remember adults behaving badly and a few minutes at Mt. Rushmore and Old Faithful.
readerlady
TLC stinks said...
Having not watched, I can only surmise from posts on other blogs that apparently there where issues with Kate's RV such as the microwave and fridge not working and Kate got stressed? Let me see.....how many RV's were on this trip? 2, 3 maybe 4. Where these appliances really broken or was this pretend?
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Kate said that the broken tv/dvr was in HER rv due to some kind of electrical problem which is common on a rv. IDK about where the fridge was located, but it was just the door that fell off; the fridge was still working and a couple pieces of duct tape solved that problem. As someone up-thread mentioned, there was another RV for the crew and drivers so it wasn't like they were stranded in the middle of nowhere with no facilities, appliances, heat or water - they simply experienced mild inconveniences. As usual, Kate made much ado about nothing.
I have trouble riding backwards because I get car sick so I bet Cara has that issue too. Can you image how embarrassed she would have been to have her throwing up filmed? I'd be pissed too.
‘Kate Plus 8’ RV Trip Episode Recap - Kate's Attitude from Gather.com
August 30, 2011 06:45 PM EDT
Kate Gosselin likes to be in charge, but she doesn't perform well under pressure. She proves that in this episode of Kate Plus 8.
Throughout this entire episode of Kate Plus 8, Kate complains. She has a very bad attitude and lashes out at everyone around her, even the kids. She acts like an out-of-control diva. It is a wonder if any of the kids or the other two adults had any fun while Kate was around.
She complains about lack of sleep, which was her own fault for trying to drive the RV instead of letting the professional RV drivers she hired drive the RVs.
She complains about kids playing in the RVs. Isn't that part of the reason people rent RVs for vacation?
She complains about the kids fussing. Wonder where they learned the art of fussing?
She complains about the kids' fingernails being a little long and dirty. Well, they are kids on vacation!
She complains about one of the RVs being a little dirty. With 11 kids, did she really think the RVs would stay spotless?
She complains about the refrigerator door on the RV not working properly. At least it still keeps food cool.
She complains about the DVD player that doesn't work. Who cares about the DVD player not working? Let the kids have some technology-free time.
Someone should clue Kate in on the fact that a vacation should be fun—even when you have to deal with unexpected events.
Okay I tuned in to the last half of a rerun and my 'favorite' quote has to be:
"I'm sure there are RVs that are convenient in this world, but this isn't one of them".
What went wrong for kHate to say that, you might wonder? Did something break? Did a toilet overflow? No and no. Her royal f*&kness had to adjust a pillow behind her back.
I am not kidding. You can't make this shit up.
Oh, and from what I could see Clay seems like a nice boy - not sure why Cara hates him so much.
Kate said that the broken tv/dvr was in HER rv due to some kind of electrical problem which is common on a rv. IDK about where the fridge was located, but it was just the door that fell off; the fridge was still working and a couple pieces of duct tape solved that problem.
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It's not like it was HER money that was paying for the trip!
JUST SAYIN said:
Personally, I think TLC is letting her "have it" for all the crap she has put them through. I can picture ALL the team getting together and planing every step. They, of any, really know how to push her buttons. I have to say, for one, I'm a very large woman and I couldn't help but think, there is no way I could even get one leg between the table and the counter. (really not that large, but big). Even the kids looked like it was narrow for them.
Anyway, I think they, tlc, got back at her the best they could without breaking their confidentiality contract. They were all probably laughing up a storm while they were waiting for Kate's plane. If it were me, I would have pulled up a bunch of episodes and showed them to the drivers and cut a gut with them on what is coming their way. Yep, I truly believe it was a set up to get Kate back. And I don't blame them! Heck, I probably send Jon a copy and wish him a early happy Fathers Day.
And as for whoever thought it was TLC's idea, Kate said herself at the beginning that she always wanted to take the kids on a RV trip. Well Kate, you got your wish. You can cross this off your bucket list along with your, all you, show. But Katie, if you want to see the positive thing from it, you can use the bucket for all your tears. You can save them up for when your kids are older to show them what you have saved for them. Be sure to keep a copy of this episode to prove the high road you took for them. That should make them happy, it did you.
This show is over. Cancelled. Done. Why does it bother anyone that several contributors to this blog have admitted they are watching these final episodes of the RV trip? So what if we want to see Kate at her worst? Personally, I'm tickled pink that TLC is finally allowing the truth to be shown instead of covering it up and letting it lie on the cutting room floor. Nope, no guilty conscience on my part. I'm not burying MY head in the sand.
I can completely understand those who have followed this from the beginning or at least almost the beginning (as for me I followed it since the very first special and I was still in college), wanting to check in after all these years of not watching and see how it's finally ending. I think it's just natural curiosity, after all this time how will TLC send her out. To see TLC throwing her under the bus and giving her a very disgraceful send-off does exactly what I imagine they thought it would, increases viewers. The ratings don't surprise me at all. People want to see her go out kicking and screaming, they want to see karma finally come due. And it is, and I can see how it's satisfying for long-time viewers who haven't watched in awhile but have been following the saga.
If it is turning lunch into a social battlefield for 7-12 year olds though, then that is a whole other story.
Not at all. Pre-schoolers, Junior K and Kindergarteners pack a lunch and eat in their classrooms. When they get to first grade, they may purchase lunch and eat in the dining commons with other LS'ers. It's kind of like a rite of passage to be able to do as the big kids do. Nothing more, nothing less. They look forward to it.
I do think that the eight would really like to be among the rest of their classmates who are allowed to choose what they want for lunch. It would be one aspect, however small, of their lives that their mother cannot control.
Since when did we become so spoiled that we require a TV/DVD in a vacation road trip?
In case Kate remembers 15 years ago TVs were unheard of in cars or RVs. We entertained ourselves with a variety of road trip games and a lot of breaking up the trip with little road side attractions.
She just wants to plop the kids in front of the TV and not have to deal with how to entertain them on a long trip. What a whiner!
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know where you can watch this on the net?
August 30, 2011 3:31 PM
Anyone? Beauler?????
Count me as one more who crawled out of the woodwork to watch this episode. Been gone from Kate for quite awhile. Checking in here satisfied my curiosity.
WOW! She has gone farther over the edge than I would have predicted. The kids grew, lost teeth, and got sass.
She looked trim and fit. She also looked all puffy in the AM with swollen eyes.
I don't know if I feel sorry for her or just sad.
healthybranscom
@Kateplusmy8 my daughter Audrey is 2 and she is glued into your show! She loves it! :) I am going to have to play your old ones for her! :)
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Make sure you play the drunken, bar-hopping, feet-licking episode for her. Two-year-olds are really into that kind of thing.
to watch online - go to youtube and search for gosselin archives
Make up your mind said...
It really surprised me because he always had tenacity & he was always a very strong individual. They "edited" him out to be a big, spoiled brat & a baby.
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So Kate was a victim of editing? If you believe that reality tv 'edits' people then you believe Kate is 'edited out' too. Which is it?
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What is it tonight with all the snotty little comments being made. All of you are coming out of the woodwork huh? Knowing this site isn't being heavily moderated, so here you all are, with no evidence, of course! But here you all are, making snide little comments. Whatever.
I KNEW this guy personally, for YEARS. From what I have heard, Kate has always been a grifting, gimme gimme gimme, all-mine, bitch. Not much editing there, huh? I'm talking about reality TV here. How many times has Kate said that *her* stupid show is the "realest of all reality TV shows"?
Well?? From Kate's history, there was ZERO editing. But ya know what, it seems that now, from what I read, that TLC isn't doing anything to hide what a mean, angry, manipulative monster she is on her "reality" show. And just from seeing her lame tweets on top, she is exactly how she is portrayed to be on her "show", that got canceled. A BAD MOM. I have the proof...(everyone who watched does) & it's not edited. Or maybe it is? If that is how the producers decided to edit Kate, then someone HATES her at TLC.
~Hippie Chick~
Administrator said... I can completely understand those who have followed this from the beginning or at least almost the beginning (as for me I followed it since the very first special and I was still in college), wanting to check in after all these years of not watching and see how it's finally ending.
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I agree with what you are saying. I was one of those people. I was just hoping that if people were going to watch they would wait until a rerun to watch. They had another showing tonight which is what I watched figuring it didn't count in the ratings.
Again I will say that the ratings do still matter in my opinion as far as what might happen with Kate in the future.
As far as what I saw when I watched after all this time ... well, at this point I am speechless.
soozbc said...
to watch online - go to youtube and search for gosselin archives
It's copyright protected. Can't watch this episode on Youtube.
Has anyone checked the fan sites? What are they saying in defense of Kate? I am unfamiliar with those links. This blog has been the source of my Kate info as I agree with most of the postings. Thanks for all the episode info today.
LancM, must one buy lunch to be able to eat in the commons? I totally agree that the kids should be allowed to fit in with their peers. Being so rigidly controlled by Mummy Dearest at home is bad enough.
The tech/gnat sized attention span is sad. When there has to be a MOVEMENT to get kids to play outside, you know there is something wrong with society. Same with TV/DVDs in all cars. Not for long trips, but for 15 minute rides to school/store etc. Sigh.
Wow. Ratings went up. Anyone surprised? You all watched! And No, I'm not a sheeple. I'm a regular poster. I just can't believe you all would watch & help exploit the children.
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 u should go deliver the high chairs & have it be photographed
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 angelina always has it documented when she does charity or something good.
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 similar to Angelina Jolie. Whenever u do ssomething good, be sure to have paps following u. Change ur image.
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 i think u need to be reintroduced to the public as Kate Gosselin, the reality show star / celebrity / business woman.
Big Fan imagines herself as Kate's PR person! Such wonderful, original ideas she comes up with!
Are these people for real?
soozbc said...
to watch online - go to youtube and search for gosselin archives
August 30, 2011 5:40 PM
Thank you for your response, soozbc!
I'm not trying to be stupid here but every link that you click on for the RV episode says that it has been taken off. Believe me, I have clicked on them all so I'm not sure where people are watching it on Youtube.
The episode will be repeated on TLC this evening. Very soon, I think.
I don't go to sheeple sites especially those that I'm told do entire posts about me (obsessed much) libeling me, however, I imagine the sheeple sites look like this this morning:
http://img.ezinemark.com/imagemanager2/files/30004254/2011/03/2011-03-22-13-54-23-4-the-mass-sheep-suicide-happened-in-the-easte.gif
Has anyone checked the fan sites? What are they saying in defense of Kate?
Surprise!
It’s ALL TLC’s fault! She MADE that network. They owe HER!
(ok - they KNOW she isn't a camper (SP crossover), Jamie should be FIRED (ungrateful wench), and the omnipresent editing.
Poor, poor Katie.
Kate manages to squeeze every ounce of pleasure out of any situation. She has been lavished with trips and pleasures and gifts and blessings. Yet, she is miserable, complaining and unappreciative. She is responsible for the souls and minds of 8 young citizens of this world. A tragic waste in any way life is defined.
Ah yes well you know at least they have come around on TLC. As Mary Poppins would say well begun is half done.
They are right, TLC is part of the problem here. Most of us here believe that of the disgusting pigs in this mess, TLC is one of them.
The next step is realizing that Kate is a narcissistic blood-sucking bitch.
In order to watch the episode on Youtube, you must leave the site and participate in a sponsored survey. The episode is on TLC tonight at 2 am.
"Has anyone checked the fan sites? What are they saying in defense of Kate?"
I started looking at the fan sites since the cancellation. Common remarks are "Ashley and Jamie were bad too." "TLC is evil for doing this to poor Kate after she put the network on the map." "You should see the drama on our RV trips!"
"Also, hear from family friends about their experiences on the final episode."
I know this will be Jamie, Steve, and Ashley. Is there anyone else? Too bad it couldn't be Beth.
She's still bitching about those rock star RVs.
"The closet they called a bathroom!"
What an ungrateful whore, I'll say it.
Try doing a vacation like many Americans today in a station wagon with broken air conditioning and four kids crammed in the back.
Also, she said goodnight to her tweeties she has to get up early to get the kids off and still isn't adjusted yet (Kate? Get adjusted at least a few days before school starts so that doesn't happen, miss organized), then she tweeted TWELVE MORE TIMES.....HHAHAHHAHA.
Anonymous said...
The episode will be repeated on TLC this evening. Very soon, I think.
August 30, 2011 6:00 PM
2:00 Am....LOL NOT going to wait up for that! Thank you for replying though! :)
What kind of bathroom does Kate expect in an RV anyway if not tiny?
This?
http://www.dana-home.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/big-bathroom-photos.jpg
I think Kate knew the "cancellation" rumors were abound and TLC threw this trip at her for the hell of it..like it or not!! This was the outcome of it all! hahahhaaa!
I think she said something about dreaming of an RV trip with the kids across the country. What the heck did she think it would be like? It was a huge RV, not a small camper top. She has been a "mom" for years...and should be aware that kids get cramped and squirmy.
A campfire is part of the charm of camping. She was proud of her burnt chicken. She would not have eaten it if anyone else had done the cooking.
It said it was her idea that they stop to play on the snow bank. Then she acted like someone had put her children in a death defying position. She was barefooted in the snow. I assume because she had to remove yet another pair of totally inappropriate shoes.
I need to calm down!
Anonymous said...
Wow. Ratings went up. Anyone surprised? You all watched! And No, I'm not a sheeple. I'm a regular poster. I just can't believe you all would watch & help exploit the children.
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I didn't realize that ratings matter anymore. None of the watchers are exploiting the kids. They have Kate and TLC to thank for that.
I think many people who haven't watched in years did so to see for themselves if all of the hype is true - that she really has turned into a self-centered, egotistical, controlling, vile shrew.
...and she did.
I just wondered where they ate all the time- did Kate cook for 14or 15,if Steve was there all the time? Not many organic restaurants around where they were. Did Kate say she brought all organic meat and veggies, dairy, etc. along with them, for 2 weeks for 3 meals/day? Wow, that's a lot of food!
Sorry, I don't believe it.Where would they store it all? How many rv's were there? I think it's all scripted; they probably stayed at hotels and ate there too.Not 5 star, but better than an rv to Kate.
Did Kate help produce this show too? It sounds dreadful and I can't see Kate in a mud fight.One of the tups got a little ice-cream on them and she was ruined! The kids aren't even allowed to get dirty, now in an rv they can? Did they all use the rv shower, Kate too?
Sorry, guess I should go rant somewhere else!
JUST SAYIN said:
I'll be honest, not that I would lie to you, sometimes I feel bad for commenting about her. I know she is a big girl and makes her "own bed", if you will, but I'm sitting here thinking about those poor kids who will grow up to be a product of their mothers making, and I wonder what I would say about them if they made the wrong decision because they had Kate's mentality. Would I say shame on you, or would I excuse them because of what their mother did to them. My question to myself now is, should I say shame on Kate, or have a little more compasion because I don't know fully her childhood make up. I'm not saying that I should excuse her but maybe I should not be so quick to judge her. I have told my friends that everyone is allowed their opinions but when we treat others different because of those opinions, then it becomes judgement. Please don't take me wrong, we should stand against evil treatment but in doing so, "I" don't want this get a hold of me to where "I" influence others to treat someone badly. Some have commented that people here are addicted to bad mouthing her. I say, for myself, that if my comments has influenced anyone to hate her, then I was wrong. But we still need to not support any evil done to any child, or person, under any circumstance. Kate had her control issues from the beginning. She even saw it in the beginning. Both her and Jon said that they balanced each other out. And the episode that TLC fully manipulated for ratings, the one about their divorce, Kate said herself, we both became something we're not. TLC baited and used both of them. Yes, her greed didn't help, but who of us really know when we are being manipulated. TLC showed all summer long, just like now, clips of arguing, remember the coupon issue? And just like now, they said, it all came down to this, and showed the clip with both on the couch. SHAME!SHAME! TLC has a lot of reaping they will have to go through. I just hope that others will see offers from the media for what they really are. In the end, everyone will have to reap their own decisions. Manipulated or not.Be wise people. Don't fall prey to the media.
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