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Friday, August 19, 2011
Kate takes kids for back-to-school haircuts in first appearance since show canceled
After six years of exploiting the children, remarkably, Kate tweeted this morning she wanted a "money tree" to support her family.
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427 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 427 Newer› Newest»Yes. Realtors are not going to waste their time showing a house that they know is priced far above market value. Many won't touch them. I've known quite a few realtors who refused to take a listing because the asking price is so far above the market value that it's laughable.
Realtors talk. Word gets around, regardless of "ethics." They're not bound by C/As.
So she admits she will uproot the kids for work? She should be busted her butt to find work nearby. And she should downsize.
Her priorities are so skewed.
Kate's Tweet: Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
All rumors re house! NOT ONE bit of truth. Will never sell unless necessary work move... It's my kids home! Would rather die!;) Calm down..
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Isn't this the person who said that there there was no truth to the rumors that the show has been canceled and they were not going anywhere?
Kate can be so transparent. All this subterfuge with "will move for work" + Mady's "dream" of acting.
I'm calling this one now. She's planning to move. Unless she gets a local job as a nurse how can she work in media? Maybe NYC, but full time? I doubt it. She can't go on for too long just getting gigs here and there. She at some point will need steady income.
Permanent asked,
"I tried wernygal's blog, didn't see anything, tried her twitter and only one tweet came up"
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It's in her comment block (last one, I think) under Suicides thread.
If she's really serious about continuing in the entertainment business she really needs to be in NY or LA. I love how she would do anything to keep the kids in this house--unless she needs to move to exploit them. Blech.
Gosh I fear for these kids. She is emerging as the stage mom from hell.
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
All rumors re house! NOT ONE bit of truth. Will never sell unless necessary work move... It's my kids home! Would rather die!;) Calm down..
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And "Mommy and Daddy will be together forever" too.
I'll say one thing. This one is persistent:
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 want me to come over? I can help u. My time at the pedicure salon is done
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And obsessed about her pedicure:
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 my toenail polish is more of a bubble gum pink rather than pink/coral
3 hours ago
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 french manicures look odd on toenails. Its almost looks like someone transplanted hands onto feet
4 hours ago
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 going with a pink / coral color for my toes. The girl next to me is doing a french manicure.
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 pedi/mani makes me happy. I was immediately at ease & anxiety free there
2 hours ago
BigFanofKateG
@Kateplusmy8 i got my toes painted a bubble gum pink & my fingernails painted a nude color at the salon
Where do these people come from? It's amusing, if nothing else!
I was in Kohl's today at Park City and I was going to ask if someone purchased eight backpacks for Kate, but I was running late, and the line at customer service was so long. Big back-to-school sale going on today.
I wonder if Kate sent someone to pick them up, and if so, did the backpacks end up in the consignment shop, or did she return them for a gift card? I guess we'll never know!
Out And About In Berks County PA said...
Realtors talk. Word gets around, regardless of "ethics." They're not bound by C/As.
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If one is a Member of the National Association of Realtors, we do indeed have a code of ethics, and we are indeed bound by confidentiality.
http://www.realestateabc.com/codeofethics/
Just went downstairs to find my husband watching a true crime show. Get this..."20/20 on TLC". Is it just me, or does this explain a few mysteries? As I recall, Dancing with the Stars and The View are both ABC shows - as is (or was?) 20/20. Many of us scratched our heads and wondered what the attraction was to ABC seemingly promoting Ms. Gosselin - maybe now we know. Some sort of collaboration or crossover going on between TLC and ABC. Good news is, if TLC is finished with the harpy, imagine her days 'guest hosting' The View, or participating in any other ABC programming are also finished. Thoughts anyone?
Mady does have a certain amount of musical talent (and yes, I do know what I'm talking about. Took music lessons for 20+ years and have a minor in vocal music from a university with an excellent music department). Her voice is true and sweet, but she's no Jackie Evancho or Charlotte Church. As far as we know (and you KNOW Kate would be bragging about it, even if it is one of the afterthought twins), she's never done any acting and has never studied dance. She might eventually develop into someone who's a mainstay of a local music group or community theatre,but I doubt she is good enough to make a career out of it. Besides, she doesn't appear to be the sort to take direction well. Didn't Kate tweet just a few weeks ago that Mady wanted to be a vet? I suspect this Disney dream is Kate, all Kate's.
readerlady
so she gets $600K for the house, what's the mortgage owed? how much does that leave for house hunting (ANYWHERE)?
She can't be the 'stage mother from hell' until one of her little darlings gets on the stage. In order for that to happen one of her little darlings has to have an abundance of talent, be 'extremely' poised, personable, cute...
her kids are 'ordinary' in all categories.
TOTALLY OFF TOPIC: To see how far off center her two front teeth are, look at their placement in the 'fork pic'. Right front top tooth is dead center under center of her nose. Other than that, not a bad picture. Now look at the horrible main pic at the top of this article. Can't make the same statement (not a bad picture ) since she looks like hell.
just had to say it because the fork pic was right next to where I was keying my comments.
I had read that the house is in a trust, possibly in the kids' names. Can a trust have stipulations as to when/how someone like the mother can sell it so the kids get the profits (IF there would be any?) Can she use their money to pay for it because it is 'theirs' not hers? (so she can save 'her' money for herself?)
I wouldn't put much stock in TLC's running old 20/20 shows. They've been syndicated, much as CBS's 48 Hour Mysteries have, that are now running on A&E. It doesn't mean that there is a connection between ABC and TLC -- there may be, but not because TLC is running a syndicated program.
readerlady
If one is a Member of the National Association of Realtors, we do indeed have a code of ethics, and we are indeed bound by confidentiality.
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So if Kate were trying to list her home with various realtors in the area, word wouldn't get out around among realtors (over lunch, dinner and drinks, meetings, etc.), and this confidential information wouldn't be passed around to realtors' friends who would promise not to tell anyone, only their husbands, who would be sworn to secrecy...and somehow through this chain of "promise not to tell anyone," a newspaper writer couldn't find out?
All I will say is, there exists a code of ethics. Ethical Realtors follow it.
Kind of funny recap. Sorry don't don't how to make it clickable. Bad language, if that bothers anyone.
http://www.bite.ca/bitedaily/2011/08/kate-plus-8-the-season-premiere-recap-dc-cupcakes-movie-making/
I'm confused about confidentiality with realtors. If you were listing your house or thinking about listing your house wouldn't you want as much buzz as possible? Seems to me to make sense that people would be chatting about it and spreading the word. I thought what was more likely to be confidential was negotiations and so on. A lawyer has confidentiality too but that doesn't mean we can't necessarily reveal we're representing someone or even thinking of representing someone.
I tend to agree with Readerlady I think 20/20 is just syndicated now and anyone can pick it up, probably for cheap. It was probably a much cheaper filler option than sending a family of nine first class to Australia anyhow.
By the way, if Realitytvkids had a required viewing list, the episode of 20/20 at 8pm tonight profiling Diane Downs would be on it. If you don't know much about her, you should. Her story is sort of a Realitytvkids' Book Club selection channeling Oprah. If it's already passed for you I'm sure it will replay.
Mady may have a dream to be on Disney but so do a lot of other kids who have been taking acting, singing, dancing, and diction lessons since they were small. It is the rare child that walks in to a casting office without any training and gets the job. Eleven is considered "old" to break into the business - and being on reality TV doesn't count as being in the "business". By that age many kids have done commercials, etc. IIRC, Kate took Mady and Cara to an agent in one episode and the agent seem to be super interested in them. From what I've seen on the shows she doesn't take direction well and has "meltdowns" when things don't go her way....not good. No one would want to work with the "stage mom from hell" either.
IIRC, Kate took Mady and Cara to an agent in one episode and the agent seem to be super interested in them.....Should read "DIDN'T seem super interested in them"
jaynria
@Kateplusmy8 how do you stew the tomatoes/ did you grow them/ how long can they stay frozen for
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Can anybody possibly be this stupid? Oh, wait a minute. It has to be a sheeple!
Admin, the buzz you want for a listing should not happen until the listing agreement between the seller and the Realtor is signed. Then, by all means, buzz away! If a Realtor is contacted to evaluate a potential listing, though, and decides to pass on it and starts blabbing about either the seller or the seller's property, that is not only dancing around 'unethical' territory, but the Realtor will get a bad reputation in the community and risk losing future listings.
I see so unless and until a seller commits to them it's not kosher to say anything. That makes sense.
The DC recap was funny Mel, lol, they definitely "went there."
I had read that the house is in a trust, possibly in the kids' names. Can a trust have stipulations as to when/how someone like the mother can sell it so the kids get the profits (IF there would be any?) Can she use their money to pay for it because it is 'theirs' not hers? (so she can save 'her' money for herself?)
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Our house is in our estate plan trust. However, my husband and I can sell it at anytime and use that $ to purchase a new home. Because of how we do our financial planning and how we have our estate plan set up, we'd put a new house into our trust as well. But we're not required to. As the trustees of the trust, we can decide to do whatever we want to with the assets in it.
If we pass away, then our executors have to follow the rules we have set up for how the trust will be managed after our death.
I suppose Kate could have put rules in place for the living trust that might prevent her selling the house but I seriously doubt it.
I'm confused. If a real estate agent or agents listed the Gosselin house for sale, why would they even want to keep it confidential? The whole idea would be to publicize the house, make it known among realtors that it was for sale, run it in the multi-list (if Kate allowed that), all to generate showings that would result in a sale. What possibly benefit would it be to a realtor to keep the listing quiet, or remain silent about her interest in listing the house?
Her previous house was advertised on the internet, as well in the multi-list. Everyone knew it was for sale and some kept tabs on it until it was sold and settlement had taken place.
If I were thinking of selling property I probably wouldn't object to as much buzz as possible. But I can see how if you're shopping real estate agents or you're testing the market you might not want it to be known until it's the right time.
For instance, say Kate actually (yeah right) low-balled the price of the property. Say for example she was telling agents she was willing to list it for 350,000. If word got out prematurely before she had time to really secure an agent and discuss the benefits and drawbacks of that price point, then everyone would know she is willing to let it go for 350. It could sabotage her for all future negotiations if word was out she was itching to get rid of it and would settle for a low price.
I'm guessing the thinking is you really want to discuss your property with a professional and secure the services of a professional before you let any buzz out to the masses. After that, by all means buzz away.
Administrator said...
I'm confused about confidentiality with realtors. If you were listing your house or thinking about listing your house wouldn't you want as much buzz as possible? Seems to me to make sense that people would be chatting about it and spreading the word. I thought what was more likely to be confidential was negotiations and so on. A lawyer has confidentiality too but that doesn't mean we can't necessarily reveal we're representing someone or even thinking of representing someone.
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As clergy I can tell anybody I want to tell that I had a conversation with Joe Churchmember. ("I saw Joe on Tuesday. We had a nice long chat.") I just can't reveal WHAT Joe and I discussed if it was considered private content. There is no harm in acknowledging I have spoken to Joe, even if it will cause a flurry of questions. I don't have to answer questions.
That said, I can understand why Kate would not want anyone to know if she has spoken to realtors. Why would one talk to a realtor? To buy or sell property. Why would one buy or sell property? Because one is moving. Why would one see a lawyer if it were not for legal work? Or a cardiologist if not for heart problems? There is a reason you go see these professionals.
She would open an entire can of worms by acknowledging she had spoken to a realtor. For once she chooses to keep her activities private.
Perhaps that should be encouraged.
Re: Mady on the Disney Channel. I, too, seriously doubt that it will happen. I could see Julie May Carson PERHAPS getting her some walk ons but that's a big if. I have a B.A. in Music and I've taught kids for many, many years, both in general education and music. As others have said, for every one kid who makes it into the Disney "family", there are hundreds of others who, despite years of music and acting lessons and being in the business since infancy, never do.
Mady is cute and smart and a good kid. She is obviously caring of her siblings as well as her parents. It sounds like she's stuck with music lessons through the years, which is nice to hear and I hope she continues. Most of all I would really hope and pray that she DOESN'T get hired by Disney.
Kate, seriously. Check out the following sites:
http://listverse.com/2009/04/19/top-10-child-stars-gone-bad/
http://itthing.com/10-child-stars-who-grew-up-to-be-morons
http://todaysteenonline.com/index.php/2010/08/25/the-disney-curse-fallen-stars-typecast-actors-and-the-triple-threats/
Yes, there have also been child actors who have grown up to become successful adults, but for everyone one of them there are 10 or more who weren't so lucky.
Do you want to bet those odds? Is it really that important? If Mady wants to perform, get her involved in local community theater. Support her in that way. If she sticks with it, great. If not, don't push it. Let Mady make her own choices. Most of all, let her be a kid.
After all, she will be an adult far longer than she will ever be a kid. Why are you in such a rush for her to grow up?
Kate denies that she's selling the house. Maybe this is her cleverly crafted word play in place here again. Remember when she was asked if she had a boob job and her reply was that she got a good bra? She didn't deny having surgery, only that she got a good bra, which likely was true (in addition to getting new "girls"). She skirted her way around the question.
She was asked (on the Today show) if her show was canceled. The word used was "canceled." Her reply was that nobody told her, which probably was true at that point, even though she most likely heard the rumors that it was canceled. TLC stated that it decided "not to renew another season", so when Kate heard the word "canceled," she denied it because technically, they were not picking up the show for another season.
She did the same thing when the two were expelled. She said the kids were no longer attending, that they were withdrawn, but she denied that they were expelled. Therefore, since Kindergarten kids aren't "expelled," she got around it by saying "withdrawn," and therefore could claim that she wasn't lying.
So...maybe she was asking around to find out how much she could get for her house, and if any real estate agents were interested and none was. She could therefore say that she isn't selling the house because it's not been listed. She did not deny contacting any real estate agents.
Admin said...All I have to say is? She's such an f-ing douche.
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I saw that tweet and all I could do was to shake my head.
Why don't you tell us how you really feel? LOL!
Barbee,
Tom Cruise has that same offset upper front teeth thing. I read that it has a name but I've forgotten it.
OT, but wanted to say that kart is not unique.
lizmartinreeves
@Kateplusmy8 What is that? Tomato sauce?
Tweeter wants to know what stewed tomatoes are!! Is this a regional thing? Don't people in other parts of the country eat stewed tomatoes?
You guys know how Kate "recycles" food -- by repacking old sandwiches in her kids' lunchboxes until they are eaten. ;)
That Kate, always thinking of ways to save money when it comes to her kids. She's so resourceful.
Well, Dwindle, you have made the Twitter page:
emeraldcityjazz
@hgraymommy @Underwalt @Kateplusmy8 That post was by the holier-than-thou snot who won the sign contest & the Target Gift Card.
Nice person there, huh?
That was so uncalled for! Walt should have stood up for you! As Khate would say....consider the source Dwindle
With all of the (kid's) money she has spent on her hair-why does it look like she chewed the ends off with her teeth?
Oh, I take that back saying Kelly should have stood up for you Dwindle. Now l see he was the instigator. Just lost all respect for him now. Pity.
Regarding twitter: I just started using twitter to promote my business. Prior to this, I had followed a couple celebrities, when I first signed up for an account, but I basically signed up and forgot about it.
So recently I took a crash course in how to use twitter to learn how to use it to promote my stuff. Anyway, I sent a tweet to a celebrity I follow (not a weird stalkery, can I come over and clean your kitchen tweet lol) and I wanted to look at their whole feed so I went to twazup and while I was there I peeked at Kate's feed.
I never understood what people were talking about when they asked how people were saying the same thing over and over for hours at a time without a break. I didn't think they meant that LITERALLY, but then I saw on her feed a couple people tweeting the same exact tweet over and over and over for at least an hour.
The odds are they are not actually sitting there tweeting them without breaks for eating and sleeping. They are likely using a scheduler. I didn't have any idea such things existed, but I just learned about them and I use one now for my business tweets.
You can just put your tweet in and schedule it to repeat every x amount of time. When used sanely, it's a great way to use your time. I can schedule my business tweets for the whole day in the morning and not have to worry about them the rest of the day.
In the wrong hands, you get harassment like you see on Kate's feed.
Here are a couple examples of schedulers:
Bufferapp
Twaitter
There are more out there if you just do a google search
To "JUST ME" in regards to you saying that on Twazup, you were seeing the same tweet repeated over and over and over. When using Twazup, it's different than the actual Twitter page. For example, if you are looking at Kates thread and I post "BOO", if no one posts a single tweet to Kates page, in one minute you will see "BOO" again, and again until somebody posts something else on her page. It's common late at night when there aren't many tweets, to see this because it keeps reposting every minute. Hope that clears it up as far as why you are seeing that happen.
On the other hand, the ones that are being referred to for tweeting the same crap over and over, what is meant is they will continue the same attack on different people or say the same things to Kate over and over. Make sense? Just click on any random 'hater' and look at their tweets. You won't have to scroll too far down to see my point.
It was incredibly stupid to say it's the kids' house. OK so they were supposed to pay for it, really, but how would they get their money out, and when? Would it have been sold when the six turned 21 and the money split 8 ways? Or would mom and dad have to die first? If the house was not in the names of all 8 kids, and it wasn't, the whole idea was just thrown out there for consumption of anybody wanting to buy it. At least the house, supposedly belonging to the kids, after the divorce was useful for parent swapping, but in no time it reverted to kid swapping with Jon not allowing in the gate of the driveway. That would totally p@ss me off. REally, not trustworthy enough to come up the driveway but trustworthy enough to take all 8 kids. Give me a break.
Re: this whole twitter/Walt fiasco:
Geez? Are you all stuck in junior high school? Here's some perspective - Kate Gosselin is showing more maturity and manners than most of you twhaters. Now THAT'S saying something.
Could we all just ignore this twitter "Target/Contest" cr**? Not post it or mention it? Because, like Kate, all it does is feed the beast and make it hungrier.
Walt/Kelly/Whoever you are - you did a nice thing. It was appreciated. It went for a good cause - helping out someone in need. If you feel offended or slighted, chalk it up to a lesson learned and simply take satisfaction in the act of kindness you provided. But honestly? It's time to move on.
Admin wrote: "What? She wants Mady to support the family doing work for Disney now????"
FWIW, Julie (Aunt Jodi's sister) said years ago that if the show ever ended, Kate would try to stay in show business by using the twins. This is nothing if not predictable.
Saying the house belongs to the kids is just her way of justifying buying that property ( she said "mine all mine") so it wasn't bought for the kids.
Who would want to deal with Kate Gosselin who envisions herself as a producer? I think Disney will pass.
I totally believe Kate has made inquiries about listing the house. I don't believe a realtor is violating anything if they have not signed on as listing agent. They are free to gossip just like anyone else. Asking $2.5 is in line with Kate's inflated sense of importance.
All this talk about using Mady to support the family via Disney makes me more concerned about Cara. Cara has been looking downtrodden in recent photos. I can't imagine the impact of being the forgotten tween twin who is ignored while her sister is becoming the star. I can only hope that the privacy that Jon spoke of when learning of the K & 8 cancellation does come to pass. I would be concerned about burdening Mady with the responsibility for supporting her family. It seems like these children are being led to believe that they have responsibility to care for their mother. And it is down right creepy to think that they are encouraged to give her massages!
Mom in Lancaster....
another example of Kate's word play.
@sarahjoyce1992 can't today but every sun I have kids we try.
In other words they never go to church.
Does anyone know, or has anyone heard, if her bodyguard/boyfriend/Purseholder/sharpie dispenser/advice giver Steve is going to stick around once the TLC money runs out, or is he going to head for the hills to try and find a REAL job?
Barbee said...." To see how far off center her two front teeth are, look at their placement in the 'fork pic'. Right front top tooth is dead center under center of her nose."
I think this photo displays the problem with Kate's teeth. You can cap teeth but you can't always make them straight by doing it.
http://www.mtv.com/photos/meet-the-class-of-09/1614205/3985710/photo.jhtml
Not a clue about ol' Steve. Perhaps he'll go back to his day job at Prudential Associates. I bet Kate is desperate to keep him around. She sure made it clear by her wish list for her ideal man that he's the one. I never understood how someone with the title of Executive VP would have the job of escorting Kate around. Perhaps he only had the title because he was a founding partner? Now that Chris Watts is back, confirmed by Werny Gal, I'm curious as to whether Steve be at the bus stop for those annoying photos of Kate playing the dutiful mother. Blah!
Kateplusmy8
RiseNShine!New day! New opportunities! Enjoying a little quiet then the insanity will ensue! Busy day! 2day will b a commemorative day 4 us!
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Poor Kate. She thinks she's still on TV and has to keep her fans on pins and needles until the episode airs.
Kate actually is quite good at answering the question without really lying. They "try" to go to church.
And I "try" to get down to see my second cousin I don't really like, but it never happens.
Oooo what are they commemorating today? It's August so it can't be the day she first strung Jon's balls up on the Christmas tree?
Has anyone seen other celebs be such a tease on twitter? She is constantly teasing them and saying cryptic things. I only really follow Tony D. but he says things to the point he doesn't hint around all day. It is very annoying I have to say.
"silimom said...Geez? Are you all stuck in junior high school? "
Sorry, no, "we" aren't stuck anywhere. The problem is with others being 'stuck' in elementary school, not anyone on this blog.
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Re: Kate selling the house. She may be trying to find out what she can get for the house. PA is dead end as far as getting a job in show biz, unless it is in NYC. She could easily commute from there to home. I think I had read it was only 3 hours from her home. I can't see a judge letting her relocate far from Jon. That would be terrilble. Can you imagine the air tickets round trip for visitation? I think the only way it would be considered by a judge if the job offer is SO huge she can't pass it up. I can't see that happening.
Administrator said...
Oooo what are they commemorating today? It's August so it can't be the day she first strung Jon's balls up on the Christmas tree?
That was funny, as usual, she leaves a "cliff hanger" to rile up the natives. LOL
Teasing her tweeties makes her look desperate to keep them around. What's she got without her fans other than mounting debt of course?
She will probably wait until about a dozen ask what does she mean, then she will say "Sorry can't tell you right now" LOLOL
Administrator said...
Has anyone seen other celebs be such a tease on twitter? She is constantly teasing them and saying cryptic things. I only really follow Tony D. but he says things to the point he doesn't hint around all day. It is very annoying I have to say.
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Never seen it before with celebs, but I have seen it with narcissists. They love to make their subjects dance and always be on their toes wanting and waiting for another crumb to be thrown their way. It's a sick and twisted way of controlling with people. She does this with the kids, too when she dangles details of something in front of them, but always with a qualifier such as following rules, etc.
She must always be in control and she's controlling her sheeple this way too; it's just too bad they don't recognize how they're being manipulated. I don't know who is sicker, Kate or her sheeple.
Administrator said...
Oooo what are they commemorating today? It's August so it can't be the day she first strung Jon's balls up on the Christmas tree?
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Actually it could be if they filmed their "Christmas" show in August.
I hope she has a video camera of her own. Poor dear she still has to make memories. LOL
Kate tweeted last night:
Kateplusmy8
The finished tomato product.. No energy to do peppers etc tonight! Tuesday is another day :)
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Perhaps TLC is filming "goodbye" couch interviews today and tomorrow?
Sez_1975Sarah Bush
@Kateplusmy8 People will hate you, rate you, shake you, and try to break you. How strong you stand is what makes you.
Kateplusmy8Kate Gosselin
@Sez_1975 omg I'm using it!!!! I have a wipe board by the toothbrush sink and I'm changing the quotes almost daily! For all to read!
I would have given ANYTHING if this tweeter had come back with " I am sorry you can't use that without persmisson" THAT would have been priceless. LOL
Do you think the kids will finally meet their grandparents, aunts, neices & nephews. I typed uncle (as in Kevin but erased)? If so, what timing. The first weekend after her show is cancelled.
Oh.... here we go again!! There's no truth to the house rumors? Yeah right...my a@@! Haven't we heard these comments from her a million times before. Who's she trying to convince....herself? Believe me, she will have no choice but to sell. If there's no t.v. work, it won't matter what she has in her bank account. She'll never admit that she can't afford it. She'll say it's work related. But everyone will know the truth. Liar liar liar
Maggie I seriously doubt it now. It can't be an episode. I really feel that was yet another ploy of hers and TLC to get the ratings. I hope I AM wrong, but I bet there is no reunion.
"Kat said...she will have no choice but to sell. If there's no t.v. work, it won't matter what she has in her bank account."
To downsize is would be bad, but millions have had to do it. The purchase of that house was compared to the binge buying of a lottery winner. I STILL cannot believe she put her future and the kids into TLC's hands with a reality show. I do believe she thought she would be around until the kids go to college. I am quite sure she could find a house large enough that does not have the upkeep costs of the one they have now. BUT as you said she would never admit to a thing. Plus who is buying in this market right now? Unless it is rock bottom prices.
@Kateplusmy8 People will hate you, rate you, shake you, and try to break you.
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Odd, unless you're some kind of politician, or have done something seriously wrong, I don't think people are always going to hate you, rate you, shake you and try to break you.
I don't find this to be NORMAL!
What I'm trying to say is, Kate? There's a reason people have done that to you. Not just, for the heck of it.
We said from day one that house was a bad, bad idea. We were right again.
It's just simple common sense you don't put all your eggs in one basket and especially not if that basket is a reality show!
Now sadly, the kids will suffer. If they had just stayed where they were and maybe added on a little, built a pool, all for tons less than buying a million dollar mansion, the kids never would have been introduced to something like this and never would have known what they're missing.
ADMIN good point. I don't think I would post that for my small kids either. I dunno. Who thinks of how many people hate you? That IS not normal. BUT it does apply to HER.
I just think it's kind of odd and unhealthy to be talking to kids constantly about over-coming their haters. Why should kids have haters?
I understand a few school bullies and you deal with them as that comes up, but I don't think it's healthy for kids to be raised like it's "us against the world." That seems so negative.
Well they could have bought a larger home, more privacy since the fans drove by all time, BUT not one as this house with the terribly expensive upkeep.
Well Kate is sort of implying to the kids that the "haters" she has are normal. It's not normal and the kids shouldn't be taught it is. She is also not teaching them to have some self-awareness. If everyone is railing on you....perhaps take a moment to examine what you are doing that perhaps is causing that. Nor should kids be taught to give in to peer pressure, but everyone remembers that kid with the smelly gym clothes everyone made fun of. It doesn't help a kid to not teach them how to have self-awareness.
I.e. kid gets teased about smelly gym clothes, a kid raised by Kate might just dig his heels in and say f off. But a healthy kid will digest that and think, okay, I should take my clothes home and wash them and then maybe I won't be made fun of.
I have a house that is basically 1/2 the sq footage of Kate's McPalace. We managed to live here very comfortably with 5 kids and often we had extra house guests for extended periods.
We host all the family holiday meals (25 guests at times) as well with no problem. The house is plenty big enough to be comfortable without feeling crowded.
My point is that Kate could easily find a nice home that would be fine for the kids. I am sure she could even get one with a pool.
Many of us said that the house was a bad plan and we were called 'jealous'-- I was never jealous of her saddling herself with debt like that. The upkeep and utilities alone would be enough to scare a sensible person. If they had paid cash for the home then I would have a different opinion.
Anyone wonder why she is still driving that old blue van? After all this, she can't afford a newer van? That thing must have a ton of miles on it.
I keep thinking about her Disney comments regarding Mady. Does she realize the tremendous competition there is for parts like that. Unless the child is extremely talented, or one has a lot of pull in the industry, it would be very hard to get into this for a child with no experience. She thinks she can walk on a set and act in a movie. Without any training or experience. While it IS wonderful to encourage kids to do things they dream of, I think Kate is setting her up for disappointment, by not preparing her for something like that. Passing on her sense of entitlement.
Yes we were jealous of the house. Um, no, we had half a brain and could foresee exactly what would happen in August 2011. We were trying to PROTECT the kids from being put in a lovely mansion only to have to be ripped out from under them when the reality show bubble popped. We were looking out for them and trying to protect them from their stupid parents who apparently don't even own a basic calculator or if they do, don't use it. This is why so many state governments have said that parents cannot, will not, be trusted with their children's money.
Administrator said...
Oooo what are they commemorating today? It's August so it can't be the day she first strung Jon's balls up on the Christmas tree?
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Admin's in rare form today ;-)
Commemorating their trip to Oz?
Jupiter I don't know why not a new bus, but frankly if it still runs why not keep it? It seems like the thing to do. Unless they used it for everyday purposes, then why not? It took 2 years on the "prayer list" before they finally bought one for themselves. LOL
Mady's future - Disney vs. vet
Which career will Kate favour?
Which is going to be more financially attractive to Kate? Mady generating income from a(nother) TV career or Kate having to fund tuition for veterinary school?
From personal experience and hearing many other similar stories, the pull in the industry if you know someone is not what it used to be. Times are tough even in the industry and they don't care if your father is a 10-time Oscar winning actor, you better be able to act your chops off too if you want a role so they can make money. And if they don't care about an Oscar-winning parent, they certainly aren't going to give a rip if your mom is Kate. Mady will have to stand in line with the thousands of other kids who want to be on Disney. She has a slight edge, given that I think she has the right look for it and she's comfortable around production, but that's really only a slight, slight edge. Many other kids will have the look and love cameras.
I also wonder how much of this "I want to be in Disney" is really coming from Mady, and how much of it is sweet little Mady just trying to make Kate happy and please her.
Notice Kate never says, well if Mady wants to do it but I encourage a wide variety of interests and if acting emerges as one of those fine, and if it ends up being math that's great too! Clearly she very much is encouraging the acting bug and you can bet your bottom dollar Mady has picked up on this and sees this as a path to get attention from Kate.
I felt really bad for my narcissist's kids who tried so hard to get interested in acting for their mom's sake. It's how they got attention. She missed so many sports games and parties and so on, but darn if she wasn't at every single show when they did a community theater thing one summer. Now they've found other interests that have the potential to be high profile so they get her attention that way. But the poor things, they couldn't act worth a rip and no one cared who they were. All one of them ended up doing was a kiddie football player extra in a medicine commercial.
I am quite sure she could find a house large enough that does not have the upkeep costs of the one they have now. BUT as you said she would never admit to a thing. Plus who is buying in this market right now? Unless it is rock bottom prices.
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I know exactly what I would do in this situation. I'd find a house in the Elizabethtown-Lancaster-Mount Joy area - 4,000 square feet on about three acres with a pool. That's plenty of room for the kids to run around. They don't need 20 acres. That land isn't used anyway. Then she could get a job at Hershey Medical, easy commute, and the kids wouldn't have an hour bus ride to school.
There are many homes in the area that are available. If she needs to take them out of school, there are some good private schools in the area that wouldn't be nearly as expensive.
It can be done, but is she willing to do it? I doubt it...
I think that someone reported that the remaining mortgage on her property is in excess of $700,000. Right now she'd break even if she sold the house and paid off the mortgage. She certainly has enough stashed away to buy a $375,000 - $400,000 home with cash, not much maintenance and considerably lower taxes and no mortgage to worry about.
Jupiter and ADMIN at that time too, when they bought the house, the real estate market WAS heading for serious trouble. THAT was my concern when I heard about the house. It was not surprising to hear how long it took to sell their older house. This "jellus" stuff cracks me up. Fans think no one else has large homes or money or whatever. I certainly would NEVER want to have Kate's problems. Not at all. I thought then it was a bad decision to go into the purchase of the house. But of course. with most of the fans it is about material things. sigh
Yes we were jealous of the house. Um, no, we had half a brain and could foresee exactly what would happen in August 2011.
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I'm certainly not jealous of the house. Been there, done that. Ours was larger than Kate's by over a thousand square feet. It was a money pit, and I'm so glad we unloaded it when we did. I'd never want to go back to that. I can pretty much figure exactly what she pays in taxes, maintenance, housekeepers, pool costs, groundskeepers, mortgage, utilities. If she has no job, she's not going to be able to keep it forever, regardless of how much she loves it.
"Mom In Lancaster County said...I think that someone reported that the remaining mortgage on her property is in excess of $700,000. Right now she'd break even if she sold the house and paid off the mortgage. She certainly has enough stashed away to buy a $375,000 - $400,000 home with cash, not much maintenance and considerably lower taxes and no mortgage to worry about"
THAT is what they should have done to begin with. But yes, that would be ideal for her. And yes, 3 acres would be plenty big enough. But with Kate it is status. That I am sure would be a hard pill to swallow for her. But it would be wise decision. I just wonder at times if she has good advisors and IF she listens to them at all.
But it would be wise decision. I just wonder at times if she has good advisors and IF she listens to them at all.
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I don't know, but I'd certainly be willing to offer my advice and find a house for her! ;-) I'm not a novice when it comes to financial planning and buying real estate property.
She's never listen, though...
"ADMIN ..I also wonder how much of this "I want to be in Disney" is really coming from Mady, and how much of it is sweet little Mady just trying to make Kate happy and please her"
From the sounds of that 'movie making" episode Mady might be interested in behind the camera work. I dunno. BUT I have a feeling she may have just commented about Disney, like "what fun that would be" and Kate is the one taking it the extreme. Big money, easy money the quickest way to riches. LOL
"AMD said...
Mady's future - Disney vs. vet
Which career will Kate favour?
Which is going to be more financially attractive to Kate? Mady generating income from a(nother) TV career or Kate having to fund tuition for veterinary school?"
That would GREAT if that child or any of them would be interested in becoming a vet. But that is not 'glamorous'. Would there be enough money for the kids to even go to school for this?
"Mom In Lancaster County said...I don't know, but I'd certainly be willing to offer my advice and find a house for her! ;-) I'm not a novice when it comes to financial planning and buying real estate property.
She's never listen, though..."
I bet you could give her great advice. BUT the question is HOW COULD YOU WORK WITH HER? LOL From what we have seen, she dismisses people who do try to help. I hope she has smartened up and does not treat people like this. But, I have a feeling when she gets an answer she doesn't like, she is "done". LOL
Tessa Kitty's Mom said... Does anyone know, or has anyone heard, if her bodyguard/boyfriend/Purseholder/sharpie dispenser/advice giver Steve is going to stick around once the TLC money runs out...
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You forgot breast-size-expert. Now THERE is something to hang your hat on for a resume!
However did she manage to take 8 elementary school children for haircuts without her 'security team'?!?
I think her bedraggled look that day was quite deliberate. Boohoo, suddenly too poor to do my hair or trowel on my usual layers of makeup. Too poor to treat myself to a $20 haircut to get this crunchy straw trimmed. Too poor to strap on one of my regular pairs of bondage stillettos. Yep, just a woe-be-gone regular unemployed mom all all all alone. Next comes sack cloth and ashes. Dab eyes now. Wait, did the camera catch that? Here - retake: Dab eyes NOW. Better. Pass the love offerings.
Actually I am surprised her 12 sheeple arent pressing her to start the church speaker circuit again. Even sheeple know what a scam this was and that she couldnt repeat that performance?
Oh, one more thing; those haircut pics. The photographer she hired and posed for was clearly very close as evidenced by Collin's reaction, the reaction of the only bystander, and the reflection in Katie's sunglasses. If she wants a new media job why oh why does she have to purse her lips and scowl? Could she not give a smile to the camera, a little wave of her hand (NOT a git-away-from-me flap) and be on her way? Could she not attempt to portray herself as someone half way pleasant that folks would want to work with and viewers might be interested in? The wicked-bitch-of-the-east gig ran dry Kate, time to put on a mask and try something else.
BTW ADMIN when you remarked about cost of property in CA, SO TRUE. Kate couldn't buy a condo in the best parts of LA, Brentwood, BH or any of those areas for less than 2 million for one large enough for them. And that would be CHEAP.
Even 2.5 won't buy a home or condo in any ritzy part of LA. A business associate of my hubby looked at a condo on the Wilshire Corridor a few years ago, 3 bedroom 2 bath and the asking was 2.9 million. A freakin condo. LOL
The fans are projecting when they claim we're jealous. They are actually the jealous ones, they live vicariously through Kate's opulence. You can be jealous while still being incredibly nice to a person. Just because you're jealous doesn't mean you have to say mean things about them.
Given all the folks on here who are professionals, it seems to me to just be a fact that it's not true that none of us have the kind of lifestyle Kate has, or close to it. And if you already have it, why in the world would you be jealous of someone who also has it?
"Just Dwindle Away said... Could she not give a smile to the camera, a little wave of her hand (NOT a git-away-from-me flap) and be on her way? Could she not attempt to portray herself as someone half way pleasant that folks would want to work with and viewers might be interested in? "
Come on now! We know how very much she HATES those pesky paps that chase her all over the place. Who just HAPPEN to be in front of an obscure hair place at what 9am to photograph ANY celebrity who MIGHT just happen to get a hair cut in the middle of Reading, PA, the busy metropolitan area of the world!
(NO OFFENSE TO PA PEOPLE jk)
Jon was a part of the decision to buy the house so he is also accountable for getting them into that mess. Somehow, he managed to get out of the marriage and leave the house/debt with Kate. I am sure that in her mind she thought she 'won' when it was settled like that.
"Administrator said...And if you already have it, why in the world would you be jealous of someone who also has it?"
My point exactly, it IS projection. Even if someone does not have a huge home or a lot of money, WHO wants that headache ? As Mom in Lancaster said been there done that, WHO wants the headaches of that expensive trappings. MOST sensible people don't put such pressures on themselves. I have learned in my long life that material things don't mean a hill of beans if you are NOT happy. Kate is NOT happy. And material things do NOT make most people happy.
Kate must be forgetting that the house was once owned/maintained by a DOCTOR-- not an unemployed nurse.
if kate gosselin cant afford milk then she cant afford to send 8 children to a fee paying school.
these children have not lived in the real world.that silly mother needs to downsize get a job and stop this nonsense.
"Jupiter said...Jon was a part of the decision to buy the house so he is also accountable for getting them into that mess. Somehow, he managed to get out of the marriage and leave the house/debt with Kate. I am sure that in her mind she thought she 'won' when it was settled like that."
You are right he was there during the home purchase. I started to include him in my one post, BUT didn't because I just wonder how much voice the guy even had in that desc ion? Some of the things that came, such as signing the contract with TLC without an attorney etc, made me think that neither one had much business sense. Being broke and the money involved with the show is one thing, but they still should have had enough sense to protect themselves and their kids. Jon IS lucky to be out from under it.
"some of the things that came OUT" it should read. sigh too hot here already LOL
Folks, let's review the Steve thing - the reason he is not around is because he was on the TLC payroll; they enjoyed the drama of "is he the bodyguard, or is he the lover, or is he what?" Smokescreens and mirrors. He has returned to his day job doing who knows what and who cares; his wife is probably still his wife. And Kate, well, she is still Kate.
Of course she doesn't need that mansion and acreage, but she will have a hard time selling it in this economy. Most normal people know that what she needs is a small house with less land, fine, have a pool, and she either needs to live closer to her kid's school or have them go to another school closer to where they live. She has plenty of money that if invested properly could last a really long time. And yes, she needs job, but if she wanted to , she could also spend a few years back in school reinventing herself. But she would rather daydream about Disney (crazy), or twitter to tweenies, it's pretty pathetic.
And this vegetable processing of the weekend, another example of how she overextends, or at least purports to - oh sure, bushels and bushels of food to process, as if the winter frosts were fast approaching and she, poor farmer, needs to freeze and can so her children won't starve. The tomatoes did her in, so the peppers will have to wait. And I called it that she would be too exhausted to even think about turning the remote on for church this am.
Well, I sure hope she has a 'commemorative" day, whatever that means. Twitidiot.
Quote Kate will post at toothbrush sink for ALL to read - "People will hate you, rate you, shake you, and try to break you. How strong you stand is what makes you."
I think this quote is highly inapproiate for her children. Her 6 seven year olds should NOT even be exposed to that saying. It has nothing to do with them. I think Mady/Cara are already having troubles with their friends at school. That is sad and I think a lot has to do with being on tv and their fame. Again, this quote is wrong for her to hang for ALL to see. Is the toothbrush sink in the kitchen by the table? If so, this is so gross and again wrong.
I just read an interesting article in the Columbus Dispatch (Sunday, August 21 edition). The article is titled "Double Vision", and it is about the annual twins festival held in Twinsburg, OH. Researchers flock to this festival each year to conduct research because twins (especially identical) make ideal test subjects. This year some cosmetic researchers looked at the aging process. One group noted that "people older than forty appear older when they weigh less. The opposite is true for younger people." Also, "external factors including divorce,smoking, heavy drinking, and unprotected sun exposure also play a substantial role in visual aging." I guess Kate looking older lately isn't just part of my imagination - it's science. LOL
Heck yes it's an inappropriate quote for little kids. Why should little kids be exposed to something so negative? Why should they even know "hate" exists in the world at such a tender age? Her understanding of child development is next to none.
Everyone have a GREAT day. I am on strike no cooking today. Going out since it is a cool spell here. ONLY 104 today!
Enjoy your Sunday!
No Regrets said...
Everyone have a GREAT day. I am on strike no cooking today. Going out since it is a cool spell here. ONLY 104 today!
Enjoy your Sunday
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Gack! 104 degrees! We went through an awful heat wave in July, but temps are more average.
I'm hoping that I'm done cooking for the day. I made a tortellini pasta salad for a pool party later today, however the forecast is for storms which will close the pool. In that case, we go and pick up our Dave's BBQ and bring it home to eat ;-(
BTW, if Kate did process 2 bushels of tomatoes, then kudos to her. Her picture that she tweeted must have been a fraction of the haul, as 2 bushels is over 100 pounds.
DH and I processed 75 pounds of seconds into marinara and that yielded 35 or so quarts, so I'm a bit skeptical that Kate did 103 pounds.
In the previews of the upcoming "last four (4) episodes," Kate looks absolutely DEMONIC when she shakes her hands and says, "This is SO over." THE REAL KATE.
Speaking of Kates' hair can you imagine what her hair stylist thinks of this picture? Most stylist are proud of their work and this makes his work look bad. I wonder if she did it because she knows he was paid by TLC and now she'll need to pay out of pocket for his (or anyone's else willing to take her on) services. Or perhaps she's looking for a goodbye freebie to unfrizzle this mess.
SPOILER ALERT if you have not seen the movie The Help, step way and do not read, BUT if you have seen the movie and if you have read the book, there is a scene where Aibiline, the maid, says to the truly mean girl, HIlly Holbrook, "ain't you just tired Miss Hilly? Ain't you just tired?" And she means, are you not just tired of all the angry, nasty things you do and say to people. It's more powerful because black women did not talk to white women that way in the early 60's, but no matter because it really did make me think of K8. OK, not at the moment, but later thinking about the scene and the movie.
It takes a powerful lot of negative energy to live your life as a mean person. Of course, the Hilly character and Kate in the real, they do not have the insight for any of this, but oh, the energy that could be put to living a positive, nicer life. For K8, drop the twitter, focus on your children, just step away from unreal 'reality' tv or now, the notion that you can still make it in that world. No wonder she is so exhausted - all that negative energy.
Quote Kate will post at toothbrush sink for ALL to read - "People will hate you, rate you, shake you, and try to break you. How strong you stand is what makes you."
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I just thought about little Alexis and Collin who seem to have a lot of trouble keeping their hands to themselves. And that is putting it mildly. And it seems they still hit each other a lot too. If the tups are not able to read this, you know she reads it out loud or the tups probably ask the twins to explain it to them. I bet Collin & Alexis had much, much counseling to prevent this behavior of hitting and pushing others.
People will shake & break you. People will hate you. It sounds violent to a little mind. And yes, very negative. Admin. your comments are on the mark. I can't believe the sheeple believe this is right for her to display for her 8.
People will shake & break you. People will hate you. It sounds violent to a little mind. And yes, very negative. Admin. your comments are on the mark. I can't believe the sheeple believe this is right for her to display for her 8
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Google "All I Really Need To Know I Learned In Kindergarten"
All I Really Need To Know
I Learned In Kindergarten
by Robert Fulghum
- an excerpt from the book, All I Really Need To Know I Learned in Kindergarten
All I really need to know I learned in kindergarten.
ALL I REALLY NEED TO KNOW about how to live and what to do
and how to be I learned in kindergarten. Wisdom was not
at the top of the graduate-school mountain, but there in the
sandpile at Sunday School. These are the things I learned:
Share everything.
Play fair.
Don't hit people.
Put things back where you found them.
Clean up your own mess.
Don't take things that aren't yours.
Say you're sorry when you hurt somebody.
Wash your hands before you eat.
Flush.
Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you.
Live a balanced life - learn some and think some
and draw and paint and sing and dance and play
and work every day some.
Take a nap every afternoon.
When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic,
hold hands, and stick together.
Be aware of wonder.
Remember the little seed in the styrofoam cup:
The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody
really knows how or why, but we are all like that.
Goldfish and hamsters and white mice and even
the little seed in the Styrofoam cup - they all die.
So do we.
And then remember the Dick-and-Jane books
and the first word you learned - the biggest
word of all - LOOK.
Everything you need to know is in there somewhere.
The Golden Rule and love and basic sanitation.
Ecology and politics and equality and sane living.
Take any of those items and extrapolate it into
sophisticated adult terms and apply it to your
family life or your work or your government or
your world and it holds true and clear and firm.
Think what a better world it would be if
all - the whole world - had cookies and milk about
three o'clock every afternoon and then lay down with
our blankies for a nap. Or if all governments
had a basic policy to always put thing back where
they found them and to clean up their own mess.
And it is still true, no matter how old you
are - when you go out into the world, it is best
to hold hands and stick together.
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Folks, that's what you teach your kids, not "it's a hard knock life" like they are little Orphan Annies and Andies.
The adult matters that Kate has heaped onto these kids' shoulders is not called for. She thinks she's making them wise and tough, and she's just burdening them with her poor decisions.
gotyournumberKate said...
Barbee said...." To see how far off center her two front teeth are, look at their placement in the 'fork pic'. Right front top tooth is dead center under center of her nose."
I think this photo displays the problem with Kate's teeth. You can cap teeth but you can't always make them straight by doing it.
http://www.mtv.com/photos/meet-the-class-of-09/1614205/3985710/photo.jhtml
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It's not the teeth that I'm noticing as much as the hair. Look how THICK it is! Not anymore.
Now it's thin, stringy, no body to it at all. Where did all her hair go?
When she had the possum hair she said not everyone could wear it because it required extra thick hair. She had that. She doesn't now.
Just Dwindle Away said...
You forgot breast-size-expert. Now THERE is something to hang your hat on for a resume!
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*snicker* Pun intended?
Think of it this way, having a big boat is usually something only wealthy people have. But just because you are well-off doesn't mean that you want to take on the hassle and time and work of a boat. It doesn't mean you are "jealous" of those with a boat, it means you are smart enough to know a boat is not for you.
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Exactly. But she didn't know that. Noveau riche, and she figured she had to show off the wealth by being ostentatious and flaunt it. I'm smart enough to know I'd never again own a mammoth house with acreage because I learned that the maintenance on it is more trouble than it's worth!
She never grew up with a wealth of material possessions, and she's like a kid in a candy store. She figured that since she had money, she was going to buy what she never had.
She'll learn, but will she learn soon enough?
My ex's family are multi-millionaires. You would NEVER know it. They live in a raised ranch style home, about an acre of property,drive normal cars that they drive into the ground, and never bother redecorating their home, EVER. Other than the inground pool and a few Caribbean family trips, there was no indication of their wealth. I wasn't even aware of it until many years after we met.
His father worked his tail off building a business and he was smart about it. He's not stingy, but he doesn't flaunt his money or waste it either.
Let's take a look & see where some of these Disney Princesses have landed shall we?
~Britney Spears- went crazy, had a melt down, is now under her father's control.
~Lindsay Lohan- Um, yeah. She is a drug addict, 3 time DUI convict, has been in & out of court more times than I can count on 2 hands, is a shoplifter, alcoholic, & can't get work to save her life. That little girl had the world at her feet.
~Christina Aguilera- Had it all, great singer, started drinking heavily, her last album went NOWHERE fast. She isn't recording anything now...
~Demi Lavato- Went to rehab for "personal reasons", as in, cutting & stuff like that. The show biz life was getting to her. She felt immense pressure to be a role model.
~Miley Cyrus- Stripper pole on stage, smoking "salvia" on tape, went viral. Dresses like a tramp, not such a great role model at ALL. Her parents FORCED her into this lifestyle & she rebelled big time. Her mommy is her Bestest friend!
Yeah, put your kid on a Disney channel & watch them grow...into a trainwreck.
~Hippie Chick~
Thank you, admin, the Target gift card arrived yesterday; today my daughter and I applied it to our shopping trip for towels and chew toys to donate to a local privately-owned no-kill shelter in honor of poor Shoka.
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Oh, Blogger, who do you hate me so?
I will put this out there...my parents live with us because they inherited money from my grandmother, (A LOT), blew it without sharing with their children (my brother & I) because my mother is greedy, & now have to depend on US, my husband & I to take care of several of their bills. They rarely help. We pay their cable, electric, heat, & hot water. They pay us rent, but it doesn't help much. I sell my organic body products on the side for extra income.
That being said, my parents have an effing boat...A BOAT, that they can't afford to take out, EVER. They love fishing, & that's their excuse about why they won't sell the damn boat. I understand that they love the boat. But they are struggling. My mom just got fired a few months back from her job because she was not cut out for it. My dad has health problems so he gets a SS check (I totally understand this), but my mom is SO stuck in the "the man should bring home the bacon" of the effing 50's, that she refuses to get a REAL job, so they live off BOTH of their social security, which doesn't amount to much.
Back to the boat; we have tried to recommend selling the boat for cash. It could help ALL of us somehow. It could start them a nice savings account so they could perhaps MOVE THE EFF OUT & they could help us with the bills, such as heating oil for the upcoming winter. They "Think" they can live large, & oh boy they did when they got that inheritance, but not anymore. Kate is the same way. She won't be able to live large for much longer. She will need to let things go. Like her proverbial boat...Sorry, had to vent. Thanks all.
GRRRRR!!!! Can you all tell my mom pisses me off sometimes??? Sorry sorry sorry... :) Going to go meditate now!
Tucker's Mom...
I LOVE your post: Everything I learned, I learned In Kindergarten! So cute. And so true! Walk with someone & hold their hand...Aww!
Now that kart's 'really big shew' is cancelled, I have to wonder if she isn't *using* blogs, both pro and anti, to further her staying relevent....(relevent in her mind, that is)
We know she reads this blog. We know she posts here in response to things she reads here. Whenever she posts something, either intentionally provocative or just naturally stupid, she knows she will stir up a lot of chatter here. For her, it's entertainment.
Everytime we comment on one of her twits, it's food for the dragon.
I hate that we give her the satisfaction. I love this blog, Admin and the other posters but I fear we are feeding the dragon.
If blogs about her suddenly went quiet, like the one that rhymes with plop, she'd lose a huge part of her audience.
Twitter cannot sustain her. She has very few real supporters there, and the rest seem to be "fans for hire".
I predict some amazement at her behavior in the final few shows, and then.......... nothing.
And some rightious clucking if she trys to sell her house, and surely she'll make some hay about her 'need' to downsize, having no money, having to *eek* 'get a job', blah, blah, blah.
But really, truly, what is there left for her to do? There ISN'T anything left. She's almost completely flamed out.
Any attempt to get her kids into show business will fail because the kids have no talent, aren't exceptionally cute or unique, and Jon will most certainly NOT agree to sign any contracts.
He will be able to document the damage to the kids from their 'career' so far and I cannot imagine even the same judge would grant a NEW contract against Jon's wishes.
Add into the mix the suicide of the reality husband and the I'd bet the climate has changed enough to keep the kids off TV.
I suspect the judge went along with the old contract/trip to down under because the contract was *already in place*. A NEW one though...... I highly doubt it. And I bet that Jon will NOT bend for ANYTHING after getting his balls handed to him before. He's learned his lesson. No means no. No contract. Period.
That's my hope anyway.
We are in the death throes here. Be patient. It will all be over soon. The kids will be back to a normal (true normal, not kart normal) life.
The only thing left I'd love to see is a formal, written statement that purseboy is gone. It would sit right up there along with the TLC statement. Some confirmation that he's back in New Zealand or back home with his wife.
Call it a loose end that needs tidying up. This inquiring mind wants to know.
1-I don't know that Kate posts here.
2-Aren't you feeding the dragon by tweeting what you want to see happen?
3-Why would Steve present a formal, written statement about where/what he's doing? It's no one's business.
Hippie Chick,
You are a good daughter! May your meditation bring you to a state of peace.
Good karma will find you.
i could understand all that preserving of veg. if it was grown with her own fair hands.why would you want to fill a freezer full of tomatoes taking up loads of space.
Always Skeptical said... 1-I don't know that Kate posts here.
2-Aren't you feeding the dragon by tweeting what you want to see happen?
3-Why would Steve present a formal, written statement about where/what he's doing? It's no one's business.
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Oh dear skeptical,
You missed my point completely.
1. I didn't say that kart posts here.
2. I do not tweet.
3. I didn't ask purseboy to make a formal statement.
And yes, dear, I am throwing the dragon a morsel by posting this but that is what we do here, isn't it? I'm sharing my thoughts like everyone else is. And I suspect my thoughts are right in line with others here.
Perhaps "statement" was confusing. I'd just love to see some article saying that kart had to let go her precious whatever-he-is that she so audaciously threw into everyone's face. The purse carrier who prevented normal folks from getting into public bathrooms so kart could tinkle in privacy.
It is my opinion, and I think that of many others, that he enabled her mistreatment of her kids, at least that we could see on film. His presence made her feel she was oh, so special when she wasn't.
And it's my opinion also that kart made him our business when she brought him on board her crazy train.
My opinion.
overthehill said...
i could understand all that preserving of veg. if it was grown with her own fair hands.why would you want to fill a freezer full of tomatoes taking up loads of space*********
Because you can! I love my own marinara and will use it into next summer. I have a large freezer too, which is why my lazy ass hasn't learned to can yet.
For the amazing flavor, freshness and quality, the cost effectiveness is considerable.
We know she reads this blog. We know she posts here in response to things she reads here.
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My apologies - I did write that she posts here. I MEANT that she tweets in response to what she reads here.
My goof.
Although I do think that she has posted here before under an alias.... but that isn't what I meant to say in my earlier post. Mea culpa.
She must always be in control and she's controlling her sheeple this way too; it's just too bad they don't recognize how they're being manipulated. I don't know who is sicker, Kate or her sheeple.
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The sheeple. Definitely. Went over to Baby Mama's site yesterday, and couldn't believe the comments they were saying about us! She claimed we have "sad, pathetic little lives" and that's why we spend our time hating on Kate. She truly didn't seem to be affected by the way Kate had treated her on Twitter. I thought about posting but knowing how those sheeple will tear someone apart who's not on their side, I chickened out. Why can't they at least be civil, and agree to disagree?
And yes, dear, I am throwing the dragon a morsel by posting this but that is what we do here, isn't it? I'm sharing my thoughts like everyone else is. And I suspect my thoughts are right in line with others here.
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Every post that gets posted 'feeds' Kate. So, you'd like this blog to 'go silent' and shut down? That would suck. I like this blog. Please don't assume your thoughts are inline with others, especially mine. I can speak (or type) for myself.
And please let me clarify in light of Skeptical's comment...
I love this blog, and the changes it has brought in the way children in reality TV will be treated in PA. I think Admin's work here has been a significant force in the movement to protect children on TV.
My comments were not meant to be a criticism IN ANY WAY of this blog in particular.
My point was, and continues to be, that kart has real issues with reality and her own importance and will cling to any little morsel to make herself relevant and keep her name out there.
Sadly, I think she is using us, and blogs in general both pro and anti to further her platform of 'me, me, me' and she is dragging her children with her.
The only way to put out a fire is to remove the oxygen. Blogs and twitter are her oxygen now.
Do I want this blog to go quiet? NO, NO, NO.
Am I criticising this blog? NO, NO, NO.
I think it serves a better purpose by pointing out the dangers for the children. I do however, believe she uses us and twitter for her own purposes.
My opinion.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it a "white not a 'wipe board?
She has a toothbrush sink?!
Wonder if the zoning on the McMansion allows for subdividing of the property? Even if you allow for 2 acres per house you could get a decent number of houses and make money on the land....
Of course, I live near Boston where few people have such large pieces of property. I myself have 3800 sq ft of property with a 950 sq ft house on top of it. Lucky for me the housing stock in my community is high end so the property taxes the richer folk pays subsidizes my little piece of the pie.
Hippie, I too and taking care of my folks. Unlike yours they didn't have any money and barely supported the 6 kids. When they ran into trouble with property taxes I bought the house from them and have been supporting them for 20 years now. Burns my butt to see what they use their SS $ for when I'm struggling to pay all the bills!
I think it serves a better purpose by pointing out the dangers for the children.
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When the children were being filmed, yes. What's the purpose now?
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That would suck. I like this blog. Please don't assume your thoughts are inline with others, especially mine.
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LOL! It seems my thoughts ARE in line with yours!
Like you, I also love this blog, and think it would suck if it went silent.
Same page, after all..........
With Kate always complaining about being tired and the way that her hair has thinned out, I would bet that she has a thyroid problem. Her hair could also be thinning because of the overuse of bleach and because of a very poor diet.
Hippie Chick, I understand your frustration with your mother because I was once in the same shoes. My mom could get under my skin quicker than anyone. Now that she has been gone for 15 years, I would give anything for her to still be here, getting under my skin. Your time with her is very short. Please do whatever you can to rectify your relationship. :)
My Daddy will be 80 this year and I hope that I have him another 20 years or so.
Bless you Hippie and Bonnie for supporting your parents. The right thing isn't always the easiest thing to do, but it shows a great deal of integrity. As far as feeding Kate, I prefer to think that we're keeping the discussion of children working to support their parents' lifestyle relevant, with perhaps a side effect of feeding Kate and the Kate machine. As for the latter, I have always doubted any blog helps or doesn't help keep the kids on tv. It's always been about advertising dollars and if we were the Lady Gaga community, perhaps we'd have a collective effect, buy alas, we're not.
But I think we've done some good here. Yes, with a bit of snark sprinkled in here and there.
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i could understand all that preserving of veg. if it was grown with her own fair hands.why would you want to fill a freezer full of tomatoes taking up loads of space
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Didn't Jon and Kate have a big freezer in the garage? Maybe Kate still has it.
I don't think Kate had that many vegetables to freeze however. She "SO" exaggerates. She must have bought them Friday if she started freezing them Sat., then she tweeted she's busy today and Monday and won't do the rest until Tuesday. So much for "fresh" especially if she bought seconds. It's all BS.
Tucker's Mom said... But I think we've done some good here. Yes, with a bit of snark sprinkled in here and there.
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Snark is an excellent seasoning, as is Humor. They make things taste quite delightful :-)
kate's scary said... I think it serves a better purpose by pointing out the dangers for the children.
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When the children were being filmed, yes. What's the purpose now?
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That's a really good question. What do you think the purpose should be?
Admin was saying recently that she welcomes ideas on where to go from here.
There are many other interesting things going on in the reality tv world especially when it involves children. That's the intention I intend to take this blog but I'm open to any ideas.
It was kind of coincidental that Russell Armstrong hanged himself just as Kate Plus 8 was canceled because it was a perfect example of how there are a lot of abuses going on in this genre and that just because the Gosselin children aren't being filmed anymore (and don't put it past Kate to try to get them back on TV with every fiber of her being), that other abuses and questionable things aren't going on in this industry.
Also quite honestly there's still a lot of Gosselin news as Kate transitions. She is going to keep trying to exploit these kids, it only took her a few days before she started talking about Mady and Disney. I'm waiting for the lawsuit, I think it's coming. There will be things to talk about with this family for at least awhile, I suspect.
Interesting article on Salon.
http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/reality_tv/index.html?story=/ent/tv/feature/2011/08/18/reality_tv_blood_sport
Who thinks the G8 met their new babysitters... errr... grandparents on this commemorative day?
Who thinks the G8 met their new babysitters... errr.. grandparents today on this commemorative day?
Whoops. :)
My DH and I have been having many dinner table discussions about reality TV in general since kart came into her fame cycle.
True, I don’t like kart at all, but I see her as a small part in a greater context.
The whole entertainment world intrigues me because it is very different from the lives normal folks have. To me, normal is anything outside the entertainment world. The range of normal, as I define it, runs from abject poverty to wealthy non-entertainment families. In normal, I include all religions, races, gender, political and sexual preferences.
I am 60 and things have changed enormously in my lifetime. While it is true that every generation says that, the advent of the internet and social media is having a phenomenal impact on what society, in general, finds "normal". To me the rate of societal change has increased 100-fold due to their impact.
I worry about the effect that the internet and social media, combined with the entertainment world marketing machine is having on society.
An example on point is young girls getting pregnant so they can be on reality TV, that teen mom show. Another is the seeming increase in greed and lust for fame and material things exhibited in the housewives reality shows and toddlers and tiaras show, just to name a few.
It concerns me that reality shows are leading young (and not so young) and impressionable viewers to think that lifestyles shown on TV are something to aspire to. There really are people out there who think kart’s life is normal, or that those housewives lives are normal…..
I have to wonder if TV had never leaned into the reality genre and thus the other HOM families had never had shows, if kart would have been so hell-bent on having her HOMs to achieve her place in history. She probably would never have known about the other families, and put 2+2 (oops, I mean 2+6) together to figure out how to make money from having babies.
Wow! These are huge issues and questions, and I certainly don’t have any answers.
But I’m glad for blogs like this one where intelligent folks can dialogue and hopefully make a difference in some small way.
In full disclosure: I watched and truly enjoyed the Dilly Six Pack and the Duggars. Both families were loving and respectful to their children. I watched kart the first season only.
I visit this blog, small town gosselins and tmz.com. I haven’t seen any reality shows in at least 3 years, and know about kart and her kids from here. In fact, the only TV I watch now is NCIS, The Closer and Royal Pains. Notice all three are scripted (big smile here)
In fact, now that I’m an old fogey, I watch my 3 shows on-demand during the day so I can go to bed early… LOL
I’m interested to see where this blog goes. It’s certainly an honest and polite forum, and with very few exceptions, I’ve found the posters to be pretty cool.
Comments in reference to Permanent Name:
1) We have zero proof Kate has ever read one word of this blog. I agree many from TLC probably have.
2)How can Kate "use" this blog? Kate had nothing to do with starting or maintaining this blog. To use something, you have to be aware of it first of all. Kate may gain benefit from it but she certainly not using it.
3) GWOP received 25 comments on the Movie Makers episode; 49 comments on the D.C. Cupcake episode and August's general discussion was 125 comments for the ENTIRE MONTH. So, if GWOP closed, Kate would NOT lose "a huge part of her audience".
4)I think Twitter can sustain Kate. It is sustaining her big time emotionally...as sick as it is. A narcissit always needs attention and she has hundreds if not thousands everyday asking a zillion questions of her of every thought and action. We don't know if she has "very few real supporters" on Twitter. Maybe the great majority of her nearly 40,000 followers support her.
5)I never thought Steve enabled Kate's mistreatment of her kids, at least that we could see on film. I don't recall once where this happened. In fact, I think it is unfair to say he enabled Kate to mistreat her kids.
overthehill said... i could understand all that preserving of veg. if it was grown with her own fair hands.why would you want to fill a freezer full of tomatoes taking up loads of space.
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I don't understand either. She has 26 acres for goodness sakes. It would take a few plants and good fertilizer to get one bushel of tomatoes. I will get atleast a half bushel just from my 6-8 plants this year. Same for the other stuff she bought to freeze.
In her pic I saw on twitter it didn't look like very big containers. Wouldn't you think she would freeze up much bigger ones for feeding so many?
KathyB said... Interesting article on Salon.
http://www.salon.com/entertainment/tv/reality_tv/index.html?story=/ent/tv/feature/2011/08/18/reality_tv_blood_sport
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Kathy, thank you for posting this source. It's very much worth reading!!!
Here's a quote, although the entire article is spot on; an interviewee is saying how they pick participants:
"Sociopaths and delusional narcissists are the most valuable candidates, and seriously troubled or emotionally damaged people are sought after, too".
The whole thing is MANIPULATION... a producer also says something to the effect that he has edited to show something that just didn't happen at all. Magic of TV editing.
Reality? Not likely.
In kart's breezy style, I'll say 'GN all... need to get the laundry done'.......
GWOP is getting no comments because the GWOPers are over here commenting away about offset teeth, fugly dresses, cankles and the EXACT SAME THINGS they commented on to distraction at GWOP. I left there to get away from it.
Mandy, I posted earlier this morning that I thought that was a possiblity. I hope it is true and her kids do get to spend lots of time with their relatives. The kids will have a huge hole not filming and I hope spending time with be lots of fun for them and perhaps even therapeutic for them.
Beth...
I love my mom, I do, & we used to be super close. Until they moved into the apt. upstairs. It's a long story, but she really has no boundaries even though I have placed them 100 times & she butts into our parenting. Ex: We will say No on something & she will turn around & ok it. I would be devastated if God forbid anything happened, I just wish they had their own place & were not...depending on us so much. My mom is very capable of getting a FT job. She is lively, sprite, just a bit lazy. And it's been almost 5 years now. So, it's time they moved on & we can repair our relationship & get back that closeness we had before.
Thank you everyone for listening. It means a lot! :)
~Hippie Chick~
And I am half out the door here said...
GWOP is getting no comments because the GWOPers are over here commenting away about offset teeth, fugly dresses, cankles and the EXACT SAME THINGS they commented on to distraction at GWOP. I left there to get away from it.
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Everyone has their opinion, but GWoP had so many damn rules, you couldn't post anything over there. If I posted something along the lines of Kate's show being "unwatchable", it wouldn't get posted because I think the admins thought I was "telling" people not to watch. How many rules do they have now? 47? I thought a blog was for people to post opinions & I know not everyone is going to agree with everyone all of the time, but when you are actually trying to STOP a show, don't you want people to STOP watching a show? They wouldn't allow us to say that we didn't watch!
It's too bad because they were a great blog in the beginning, but too many rules, unreadable posts, & not enough "up to date" news I guess had people flocking here. I love it here where the Admin is laid back & let's us speak our mind, generally. :)
Again, I was a gwopper for awhile, a long while, & I agree, I'm not BIG into snarking on kate's teeth or whatever, (SOME fashion stuff is fun), but it's no one's fault GWoP went downhill but the people who run it.
~Hippie Chick~
*Sorry, had to post under anonymous. Not signed in!*
I think the characterization here is a bit off. I only see one comment here of 350 about Kate's cankles. We talk about all sorts of things and not everyone cares or wants to talk about Kate's appearance but I don't see a need to have a rule that you can't. I only care that she is spending the children's money she claims she doesn't have on herself, so that's why I find her appearance extremely relevant and allow it to be discussed and there was never any rule that said people can't snark if they want to and have fun, within reason. This blog is not a library, it's supposed to be fun too. Just because we're concerned about the kids doesn't mean we also don't like to snark and have fun too. They are not mutually exclusive. Just look at this thread for all the variety of topics discussed and the vast majority actually wasn't her appearance at all. From the very serious about Russell Armstrong to lighthearted about the impossibility of stewing 100 pounds of tomatoes while also twattering all day.
In any case, if you are unhappy we are discussing something, what would you like to discuss? Feel free to suggest a topic. Post away. There are only four rules here.
Jenna Does said... Beth...
I love my mom, I do, & we used to be super close. Until they moved into the apt. upstairs. It's a long story, but she really has no boundaries even though I have placed them 100 times & she butts into our parenting. Ex: We will say No on something & she will turn around & ok it. I would be devastated if God forbid anything happened, I just wish they had their own place & were not...depending on us so much. My mom is very capable of getting a FT job. She is lively, sprite, just a bit lazy. And it's been almost 5 years now. So, it's time they moved on & we can repair our relationship & get back that closeness we had before.
Thank you everyone for listening. It means a lot! :)
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HUGS, Jenna. You are a good person.
Permanent Name - I'm a few years older than you (62), and I can remember when most households didn't even have TVs. In fact, I was 8 before we got one, and the only reason my parents got one was because I was on 6 months bed rest (rheumatic fever) and they thought it would help keep me quiet. What did people do back then? We read. Both my parents were big readers and passed their love of books on to me. I still spend more time with my nose buried in a book than with my eyes glued to a TV screen. ITA with everything you say about "reality" TV, exploitation, and the effect of social media. I also hope this blog doesn't go away. I also read and post on GWOP and smalltowngosselins. I think each blog serves a purpose and, although there is some overlap, each is unique. If not for the efforts of Admin and Polly Kahl, I doubt that the PA legislature would have taken up the issue of children in entertainment and, more specifically, children in reality TV. These two blogs, in particular, brought the issue to the forefront.
Admin, I don't think you need to change much of anything about the blog. Kate isn't going anywhere for the foreseeable future and, as long as she's out there, the kids are going to be exploited. She doesn't know how to exist without pushing her kids to the front of the line.
Hippie Chick - I agree with what Beth said. If there is any way possible, mend fences with your Mom. I had an adversarial relationship with my mom, too, much as I loved and respected her. She's been gone for 15 years, and I'd give just about anything to have one more screaming match with her LOL. I think I miss those as much as I miss the sweet and tender moments.
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GWOP is getting no comments because the GWOPers are over here commenting away about offset teeth, fugly dresses, cankles and the EXACT SAME THINGS they commented on to distraction at GWOP. I left there to get away from it.
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I would believe that GWOP is getting comments, but so many of them never appear. In fact, one of the mods just posted that because they are now getting comments because of the show's cancellation, they are also going back to deleting many posts. These posts were fine as long as they were hurting for comments, but now posts are going back to being censored. I guess they relaxed the rules when nobody was commenting at all.
The problem there is that you can't converse back and forth with other posters, so if you want to follow up on something that somebody said, or offer a differing opinion, it never appears.
I know they are getting comments because I have tried, following every rule. Someone commented there on a physical defect of Kate, which I think should be off-limits and I stated as such, explaining my reason for feeling that way. It was not posted - who knows why? It's fine to make a comment there, but if there is an opinion that may be in contradiction to the original poster, it doesn't appear for fear of offending someone. That's no way to run a blog. It becomes boring to the point that nobody is going to post. As long as no attacks are made, and posters are respectful, why not post comments? In addition, I noticed that there were posts made, and when the mod decided that too much time was spent on a subject (only a handful of posts) it was announced that this was the end of the discussion.
In the past, I have tried posting many, many times in response to a comment, especially correcting erroneous statements that I knew were false, but they never showed up. I gave up.
Question for those of you who read the tweets regularly - does Kate ever reply to the nonsensical questions or comments that come from bigfanofkateg...such as "what size shoe do you take" - or "Ur so quiet. Where did u go? Hope ur inside, its raining/"
Midnight Madness said...
Question for those of you who read the tweets regularly - does Kate ever reply to the nonsensical questions or comments that come from bigfanofkateg...such as "what size shoe do you take" - or "Ur so quiet. Where did u go? Hope ur inside, its raining/"
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I recall Kate once commenting to bigfanofkateg when she invited Kate to meet her somewhere or maybe it was when she invited Kate to go on the cruise. Kate said sorry, I can't. I think she replied one other time, something about being careful. But that's all I can recall. I've wondered if Kate has blocked her.
fade2black said...
Thank you, admin, the Target gift card arrived yesterday; today my daughter and I applied it to our shopping trip for towels and chew toys to donate to a local privately-owned no-kill shelter in honor of poor Shoka.
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How wonderful! And fun shopping too, I bet. Congrats, fade2black, I should have congratulated you before and I apologize that I didn't.
Admin's contest seems to have fun and positive results but I bet she will never do anything like that again! LOL!
Update on Russell Armstrong, Bravo is hard at work re-editing the entire season to be more sensitive in light of his death, and they might even edit him out of the show completely, which is what his family is asking for. Experts estimate it could cost a million dollars to reedit the entire season.
I think this is a good first step to take another look at all the edits:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903461304576522540057849246.html
Thanks, Dwindle! I honestly can't remember if I congratulated you either (blush) but I really meant to - your poster made me laugh so loudly I woke up both dogs.
It really was a fun shopping trip. Both of our loveable, goofy pups came from a kill shelter, so we have soft spots in our hearts for a place that makes a difference for these poor, lost animals who deserve better than they've been given. As does Shoka, and well...you know.
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Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
Hi guys! Looong day! Did our final intvs for our show&final 'Kate+8' People mag shoot 2day! Very bittersweet!Hope u all like the results!
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Just as I figured.
Someone grabbed my ID on GWOP. I wonder if it's the same person who was trolling Hippie's blog.
I lost my mom 2 years ago from a massive heart attack..It is something that you NEVER EVER want to endure. The pain is horrid. Please hold on to your loved ones.
And I am half out the door here said... GWOP is getting no comments because the GWOPers are over here commenting away about offset teeth, fugly dresses, cankles and the EXACT SAME THINGS they commented on to distraction at GWOP. I left there to get away from it.
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I made the apparently lone comment about Kate's recent lack of cankles (check out the photos -- it seriously looks like she's had some work done -- her ankles look positively deformed in the photos). I also used to post on GWOP, and was engaged in some pretty interesting debates/discussions. I've also made a HUGE effort to contact PA congress people (Murt, et al), etc. asking for their support in changing child labor laws in PA. And I've received some encouraging responses that they're voting to change the laws in support of the child workers.
My question to your whiney post: What have you done to help the Gosselin kids??
Yes we snark (and in this case I wasn't snarking -- but merely pointing out that Kate may have had some cankle work done...). Those who really care actually DO something to try to help the kids. I know I've done my part. What have you done??
Miss "Half out the door": don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out... You won't be missed.
Kate doesn't rate said...
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin Hi guys! Looong day! Did our final intvs for our show&final 'Kate+8' People mag shoot 2day! Very bittersweet!Hope u all like the results!__________________________________________________
Thanks for the warning! That's one issue of People I won't be buying. Wasn't her bikini photo cover one of the poorest selling People issues?
I just checked out GWOP. They are discussing the oversized house, fear for the kids after filming stops, worry that money has been unwisely used, and having some fun wondering what's next for Kate in TV.
It's not too much different than what's being said here. I don't understand the problem with GWOP's emphases.
Who thinks those final interviews with TLC are going to be AWWWKARD. Come on it's Kate, she can't hold back her animosity. She spent the past week retweeting hate against TLC now she sits down with TLC for the final couch interviews? Kinda want to see it.
And lovely, another People shoot, I'm assuming including the kids, in warm weather.
Kate tweeted "...don't 4get Kate+8 on TLC 9pmEST **LIVE TWEET w ME!**"
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Wow! Should we all fall down and worship the ground she walks on? She we sing praises to Him in the highest and be thankful that tweeties will be blessed by her cyber-presence? ME, ME. ME. ME! Hallelujah and pass the bodyguard.
Jenna Does said...
Beth...
I love my mom, I do, & we used to be super close. Until they moved into the apt. upstairs. It's a long story, but she really has no boundaries even though I have placed them 100 times & she butts into our parenting. Ex: We will say No on something & she will turn around & ok it. I would be devastated if God forbid anything happened, I just wish they had their own place & were not...depending on us so much. My mom is very capable of getting a FT job. She is lively, sprite, just a bit lazy. And it's been almost 5 years now. So, it's time they moved on & we can repair our relationship & get back that closeness we had before.
Thank you everyone for listening. It means a lot! :)
~Hippie Chick~
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Aww, I understand, honey. It's very difficult when two families live together. When my oldest was two, we were forced to live with my mother-in-law because of financial issues. I was pregnant with my youngest and it was a very tense time. Even though she is now my ex MIL, we get along much better now than we did then.
I admire you for taking in your parents. Not many people would and I wish peace and happiness for you. :)
So sick of the winers said, "My question to your whiney post: What have you done to help the Gosselin kids??"
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My question to the poster: Exactly what is it that you want to discuss here that hasn't been discussed, or isn't being discussed right now? Do you have just one suggestion for a new thread?
I think some of you have misunderstood Permanent Names post. I don't understand why she's getting some of the responses that she is for stating her thoughts and opinions.
This is why I stopped posting here. I still read almost daily but I've found that for the most part, someone else has already made a comment similar to my thoughts anyway, so why bother saying basically the same thing over again?
But the main reason I stopped putting in my two cents is because if I don't carefully word my post, or say something someone doesn't agree with I get responses to some of my posts that are downright snarky and hurtful. Maybe I'm overly sensitive, but I decided it's not worth getting made to feel bad for stating my opinion.
With that said, I do enjoy this blog. Just decided to stop being an active participant.
"does Kate ever reply to the nonsensical questions or comments that come from bigfanofkateg"
Was this the twitterer who posted her phone number? Even Kate told her not to do that.
Kate always had an in with People because one of the editors Katie Coyne was one of her supporters. I'm sure the interview will be heartbreaking as she explains she has to support 8 kids. Maybe they improved her hair for the pictures. Will she get the cover? Probably not.
Each one of us is cut from a different cloth. Some of us are very comfortable with irony, others just don't work that way. I have friends who take absolutely everything I say literally, and will correct me if I say "twenty" when I really mean 22. No sense of generalization or sarcasm or fluff. I spend a lot of time trying
to explain myself, and I get frustrated. Still, they are my friends, and see them often.
Others are so into generalizations that you can't pin them down to anything concrete. That also drives me nuts, but again, I recognize that we are all different, come from different places and communicate differently.
Point is, none of us is going to really "get" what someone else is saying in print unless we think the same way they do. I think it's awfully easy to jump at another poster for just that reason. Often the jumping is totally unnecessary. Often what is offered as a gentle
reply is read as rude or snarky.
It's tough to WRITE your feelings and be understood by everyone. Solution? Give the benefit of the doubt would be my suggestion because people write the way they write, and
probably won't change it.
Kate doesn't rate said...
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin Hi guys! Looong day! Did our final intvs for our show&final 'Kate+8' People mag shoot 2day! Very bittersweet!Hope u all like the results!
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What, no shout out/thanks to or plans to reunite every year with all of the crew members "that are just like family" or a gracious thank you to People for their coverage thru the years? This is why Katie Irene will never make it in show business--it's all always HER own effort and hers alone, never mind that the stylist did her hair or Mr. Light Man softened her leathery skin for the camera. She's stepped on, around and over all the "little people" on her way 'up' and I predict there will be little editing or other attempts to soften her current image in these interviews. Famewhore, thy name is Katie Irene Kreider.
Kate could make some money doing infomercials for Proactiv...
I was finishing up the Sunday paper just now and saw an article about Jeff Lewis from Bravo's Flipping Out. It's a reality show about a designer. He said unequivocally he has ZERO CONTROL over the editing. They edit it how they want and he has no say.
The fact that Kate isn't credited as a producer leads me to believe that she doesn't have control over what is shown either. Not one bit of control.
With Jeff he's an adult and that's his choice if he wants no control over how he comes off. With Kate we're talking about her young kids. Is this really fair to them to put their "edit" in the hands of folks who probably could care less about protecting them?
I'm confused, as long as Kim Kardashian is an adult and earns her own money why does it matter how many wedding dresses she wears? It's her wedding. Why can't someone have the wedding they want if they worked for it themselves?
I don't really care so much about folks spending money as long as they do it without exploiting their kids and as long as they're not spending beyond their means and creating a potential for future financial difficulties for their kids. Actually it's kind of good if people with money spend (within their means!) because it puts money back into the economy. It's actually a bad thing, economically speaking, for people to hoard their money. The Kardashians are kind of silly, but I see them as rather harmless.
Jenna Does said... Beth...
I love my mom, I do, & we used to be super close. Until they moved into the apt. upstairs. It's a long story, but she really has no boundaries even though I have placed them 100 times & she butts into our parenting. Ex: We will say No on something & she will turn around & ok it. I would be devastated if God forbid anything happened, I just wish they had their own place & were not...depending on us so much. My mom is very capable of getting a FT job. She is lively, sprite, just a bit lazy.
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Probably not the best idea in the world to bash your mom with a direct link to your own blog.
Aw, so sweet, sending your Sunday doing a photoshoot for People, guess that really was a commemorative day. Should hit the newstands in time for the start of school, so special. Kate, you really are an awful mother.
Readerlady and Just a Lurker,
Thank you for your posts of support!
I find that many times readers approach a post with a preconceived idea and don't always "read it" the way it was intended, or don't read a post in its entirety. I too try to give posters the benefit of the doubt due to lack of visual and aural cues with internet.
Here's a good example, and I must preface this with the comment that this is NOT meant in a snarky way at all:
Earlier I was called to task by a couple of posters who said I really had no idea if kart reads or posts here.
I'd like to clarify why I believe she reads the blogs, including this one.
kart says her family filming is a business. In any business it is imperative to know your audience. It's imperative for business success that you know everything you can about your competitors, your audience, your suppliers, the general market climate... you get the idea.
This is Business 101 in any MBA program. Every serious business from Joe's Crab Shack to IBM needs information to know how they are doing in the market, where to put their focus, etc. In large businesses, and I include TLC here, they always have a department or designated staff to gather data called competitive market intelligence.
TLC and kart most certainly know what "haterz" think (geez, I hate that word). I know this because 1) it's basic business practice, 2) it's logical, and 3) we've seen their pushback to blog trends, particularly evident in the couch interviews.
Without knowing what the public thinks, kart would have no way to know how to market herself and she is all about showing herself off.
An example would be her show in NYC as she tried to position herself as a stand-alone talent. She/TLC floated the boat that she shouldn't be making her kids work and tried to see what folks thought of an episode with just her. It was not a whimsical choice, it was calculated based on blog chatter.
We have seen many times her tweeting in response to comments or trends on blogs. We have seen many times where TLC 'guides' the unscript to address comments or trends on blogs.
Here is where I'm giving kart the 'benefit of a doubt' - she says she's a working mother, that filming her family is her business.
I believe and assume she is keeping her finger on the pulse of her audience. It is my opinion that she is simply too egotistical to not read the blogs.
If she isn't, then she's a pretty poor business woman. Oh... wait......
While the internet has opened innumerable doors, it has taken away the opportunity for the listener to "hear" the speaker. Without all those cutesy emoticons, we are left to assume or infer what the speaker means.
I find that the most gracious reply is something along the lines of "not sure what you meant, can you clarify?" or "not sure I agree with you, can you expand on that a bit?"
An angry or "mean snarky" reply just sets everything tumbling down the proverbial hill.
I try to let those run off my back like water on ducks. In the greater scheme of things, having people disagree with my opinions is insignificant.
Things like child exploitation and our soldiers fighting in a war, losing our parents as they age, the economy...... those are the things that keep me awake at night.
Having friends here who support me is really, really nice too.
And fidosmommy, I think your post is spot on - well said!
To: over the hill,
There is always room for anything in Kate's imaginary freezer! She can put the tomatoes right next to the imaginary soup she makes every year!
I think kate is in denial.She really dosent believe that tlc is done with her.She dosent believe she has been cancelled.kate isnt making any other plans on how to support the kids.She still thinks TV is her and the kids future.She is playing nice for now...telling people SO many offers are coming in...yeah...sure.
I wonder myself, if tlc is done.Are they gonna give her a year to find the "real" kate.Find her friends and family again...her faith? Then...BAM ...a new show with kate.Kate finds what she has lost? Lets watch kate get back to her real reality! Guess I'm still not believeing its really over for her.
As for money? Kate is far from poor...no one knows what she has really made from the show...Lets say she was paid 25 grand for each episode.I'm low-balling that.25 grand for 150 episodes equals $ 3.750.000. This isnt including anything else she was paid for...DWTS ect...
The kids house should be bought and paid for.Kate has made millions by having the kids work.They should be able to live well on a nurses salary.Kate wasent bourn a star...and neither were the kids.They were handed a golden platter...made a ton of money...and now its gone.
This is not the kids fault...or jons...it lies on kate.She was the one with all the controll and say...she spent the money...she lived large.
I have no pitty for this woman.She made her bed...but sadly...the kids are going to suffer and lay with her.
As for Mady getting into tv. I'm sorry but the girl isnt gifted as far as I can see...or the others.I'm not bashing the kids in any way.Like many others have said...these kids are just that...KIDS...regular kids.They should be left alone to try to lead normal lives.They dont need to get anohter JOB to support kate so she dosent have to work.
These kids need to be left alone.I believe they did thier time.6 years with no probation.Kate needs to get her OWN job.
I think kate is going to fall apart when no one calls her...when she isnt offered any work.Its been a week? REALITY hasent set in for her yet.
I hope Jon...is there to help them deal while kate falls apart.I hope the courts see that kate blew millions to live a life she never knew...I hope most people know that kate was in charge,and she didnt care who suffered as long as she was treated like a queen...even the kids didnt matter.
Jon, you have the records...you have the video...the contract is about done.You will be free to speak...do it for the kids.They have lived this...they have seen this...This is nothing new to them.Speak the truth...again...they were there too! Kate has let the kids know everything for years.Its time you set the story straight.
Hippie chick, hugs and good thoughts to you, hon. Hang in there and try not to engage with your mom, if you can. It is too hard on your health,trying to be a good daughter, just breathe...These times too will pass...
Mom used to rag on me ,I think cause we were alike in some ways and I was the only girl.My 2 brothers were perfect! Moms and daughters have a unique relationship,and sometimes moms do shitty things to them. I so know how you feel!
My Mom was a buttoned up ,born again christian type,and she used to tell me that God was going to pay me back for arguing with her,etc. Well, I have 3 daughters and they are the best thing that ever happened to me, so sweet and kind and helpful.We have our arguments, but not like what my Mom used to like having.My Mom would yell at me for not yelling at her- I couldn't win!
My Mom got Alzheimers 10 yrs. ago and passed away 4 years ago. She didn't know me.I'd phone her and she would ask who I was and when I told her, she would say she had a daughter named that, but she never calls me...
I am crying as I type this,as I miss her and love her so much.I would give anything to have her here yelling at me right now.My Dad passed when I was 20. Just do the best you can ,that's all you can do.I'll say a little prayer for you. Hoping your Mom hets a job and moves out soon! Hugs, you're a good daughter!
I wonder if the People shoot was in NYC or at the house? Typical of People. The article will be all about how she needs to keep working and her wish list. Stand by for massive photoshopping. I hope she's not on the cover.
oh my God! I never thought I'd say this, but you have got to watch 8 Movie Makers.The movie the kids make is about, wait for it, 8 Orphans who are put to work all they by an evil woman.I swear! I wonder who came up with the script! Here it is, the movie starts at 16:00
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=K3GXXWTH
Perez Hilton has a list of fees People magazine paid to Kim Kardashian for her engagement announcement $300,000 and upcoming wedding photos. He says she can easily retire on all the money she'll make selling her wedding to these buyers. So sheeple, if Kate is selling yet another People exclusive about the show's cancellation, she is making good money off it and can afford food, backpacks and stuff a hell of lot easier than you can!
Admin. -
What do you think about about writing fare-well limericks or song/ titles about how sad we are to see Kate leaving? ha ha.Or parting shots?
Kate, don't let the screen door hit ya, where the good Lord split ya! maybe it's too soon, nevermind.......she hasn't left the building yet!
Oh, and btw, the only reason the girls won all the summer games(according to your recap, admin, if I remember correctly) is because the boys were told time and time again that girls are so much better of everything.They watched all the seasons and heard their mother making them look like morons. Sadly I think they believed her.
I am co-operator of another blog (not referring to the one listed in my blogger id) and for a short time we blogged about the Gosselins. I had an IP trackers that listed the location of each visitor. I can tell you that I had a visitor from Sinking Springs, Maryland, more than once. I am convinced that it was someone from TLC.
One interesting note. This particular visitor seemed to arrive more often when JON was the discussion. At the time, they were still settling things with him.
Admin- not sure if you have a tracker but if you do, see if there are visitors from Sinking Springs, Maryland and you will have your answer
I don't have any reason to believe that Kate ever visited the blog.
Sinking Spring is not in Maryland. It's in PA. Very close (w/i a couple of miles) to Wernersville -which is where one Kate G. lives.
Correction- Silver Springs, Maryland. I apologize.
Maybe Jupiter meant Silver Spring, MD?
The weird thing about those visits is that they were usually after hours. I don't know what that meant. I eventually redirected them to Paul Peterson's site-- right to the page about the Gosselins.
Ok, just watched "kate's toughest questions" on youtube...TLC soooo threw HER under the bus! 99% of the flashbacks were of her screaming, yelling, whining, complaining, b*tching...even when she was "explaining" why she no longer speaks to Kevin, the clip they showed of him and Jody on GMA was more flattering to THEM than it was to HER!! They showed him being the fun uncle who came over to help, play with the kids etc...AND when she spoke of Jon, the clips of him TOTALLY contradicted how she was trying to portray him. LOVED IT!! And yes, she looked awful. I think she had a new makeup person for that shoot. Plus, wear your effing damn magic bra Kate, those puppies are vulgar to look at. She looks like a cheap porn star, no joke.
RE: Kate reading here, (or someone she knows) I found it VERY "coincidental" after ADMIN and some of us had a long discussion about Kate branching out in money making ventures when she could have, but didn't. ADMIN brought up the being a producer for the show. The very next day, someone asked Kate if she was a producer, she said yes, but didn't get the credit. THEN a few days later the article that Kate said she wanted to produce. This subject was never discussed before (that I remember) to the extent it was the day we did it. Nor have I ever heard Kate mention it before. It was just too 'coincidental' for me. LOL Other small things too that we have discussed have also been commented on over the last few months. Taking the kids on her dime for a trip, suddenly, she took a trip with the 3 tups.
VANESSA I haven't watched that, but I agree, she looked SO bad on the clips I saw. I wonder what was going on with her? To bring up JON or KEVIN or JODY is just so freakin tacky. She makes me sick.
Don't know if anyone remembers this, but during one question and answer long ago, Kate DENIED they filmed in the kids bedrooms. TLC IMMEDIATELY showed a clip of the kids room! I laughed it was as if TLC was saying up yours we do too. LOL
Absolutely TLC monitors and/or comments on blogs. It is common for companies to do this with respect to controlling their image. My husband told me his company does this. Further, companies set up fake pro blogs. Let's be realistic about today's marketing. Same for those Neilsen numbers. Don't believe you are not tracked by the cable and satellite companies. Marketers are tech savvy.
As far as the People payment, I wonder if indeed she is getting paid or it's just a TLC public relations setup. There is definitely some relationship between TLC and People. I say continue to boycott the show just in case ratings jump and TLC decides to give her a second chance. Better safe than sorry.
And no, I don't think it is funny to film the kids' room, don't' want anyone to misunderstand that. That was around the time they stopped filming the kids' rooms. It was funny how TLC threw her under the bus.
hey jude
would that be the soup with her old grandma as one of the ingredients?
And to No Regrets, I totally agree we have contributed to some of TLC 's and Kate's ideas. Further, sheeple read here and then tweet Kate. She sure quickly tweeted that rumors about the house were false but qualified it by saying she would move if a job opportunity presented itself. With that asking price either she has blown through the money or is eyeing a move to a more expensive locale. I bet she never thought the word would get out. She's a sneak and now Jon knows her plans.
Jupiter: Apology accepted ;-)
Silver Springs, MA - got it.
I still believe she and/or her cronies are hovering around these blogs.
I haven't seen her hatchet-fest ..er..tough questions episode but I did watch the 8 movie maker clip. What was sad to me was the whole 'Premier'. Like they couldn't round up a few school friends and *cough* *cough* 'just like family' members to enjoy the production? Instead it was just Kate and the kids (and the anonymous 1.1 mil. viewers)
Hey Kate: Here's a quote for your 'wipe' board "Pathetic is as Pathetic does". And no Kate, you can't use it. The powers that be (which would be me) said so.
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