Widowed Armstrong is on a (questionable motives) media blitz, but perhaps the most revealing interview thus far has been with Dr. Phil (a daytime personality who has emerged lately with surprisingly sharp interview skills), where she talked about how exposing the family's private moments, including the bad, may have pushed her husband to a breaking point.
Will Russell's suicide be a wake-up call in the industry about the dangers of exploiting vulnerable, mentally unstable people, as many have suggested? When Kate and Jon were exposing their divorce on television, how easily could this have happened to them?
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im not even being snarky. paige was tweeting she was very upset and only kate could cheer her up. she wanted to leave but is not quitter. she told patty she felt ignored. she kept reaching out to kate. she told patty"i know she se's my tweets but is ignoring me" she was ready to cry. FINALLY 2 hours ago kate replied to a comment about the bus driver and paige is feeling a little better to have gotten some attention.
this is not snark, this is me thinking this is beyond wild. kate ignored her own kids all the time. she turns her back on every person in her live. why do the tweeties feel she wont turn on them? how do they not see kate's true character? they build her up as some superwoman and ignore the truth about her. instead of calling us haters if they would just open their eyes to the truth the could be spared the pain of being a casualty of kate.
i mean..who the hell goes into major depression over kate not tweeting them. paige needs help. i hate even writing about her since she is a minor but i am worried about how invested she is in kate and i worry about her mental state. this is not normal. i wish her parents would help her.
and of course mk - teen supreme advice givers advice to paige. "chin up buttercup." ahh nothing like a catch phrase when your feeling down.
EM
hmm on sept 20th one of kate's tweeties had to "run" to burn off candy eaten. got shin splints. ugh. wish kate would just admit she does not run 10miles several times a week and offer more practical info. she always has to exaggarate everything. lame.
EM
i mean..who the hell goes into major depression over kate not tweeting them. paige needs help. i hate even writing about her since she is a minor but i am worried about how invested she is in kate and i worry about her mental state. this is not normal. i wish her parents would help her.
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Anyone, especially a teen, who has 3,000 photos of just Kate on her computer needs help. This most definitely is not normal. One just has to wonder what is so lacking in her life that she so desperately craves the attention of someone she has never met.
Frankly, I am a tad surprised that no one HAS offered her something. I thought for sure someone would want this controversial woman to make a fool of herself on a show, once again.
I think this was part of TLC's plan with the "show Kate's ass" tour.
I am just guessing here, but I *think* that Hollywood is probably actually pretty "small." She has a reputation for being a diva and being hard to work with, in the general public, but we don't hear *everything*.
Even with NDAs, you know people in the industry talk to each other and you can't get an NDA on everyone. The janitor that sees her screaming at someone, the craft services person she yells at because her salad has 1 too many tomatoes or whatever.
The last few shows, TLC went out of their way to really show exactly how bad she was, though, even to the crew. "At some point you need to stop playing like we are filming a tv show and actually do some work" or whatever it was she said...who treats the crew like that..it's not THEIR job.
I think TLC was doing it, in part, to guarantee that no other network would pick her up. Now, whether they were doing it out of spite, because they wanted her to be in a bind so they could ride in later and do their "specials" on their own terms and she would jump at it, or whether they were trying to save another network from the utter hell working with her must be (or a combo of all the above), I have no idea.
This is my take on the bus incident. Earlier today, Kate tweeted that she wanted her tweeties to tell their "momma bear" stories. Several tweeted incidents about bad things people had said to or about their kids.
Kate told about the bus incident and also about people redoing her pool that had told her if Shoka got in the way, they'd run him over.
I think Kate in her usual way either made those stories up, or highly exaggerated.
As far as Paige's story about her bus driver--I think she made the whole thing up to get Kate's attention. She had tweeted earlier that her school had a teacher just like the bus driver. When that didn't get a response from Kate, Paige told about her bus driver. That finally did get her a response from Kate.
By the Lexxi is Livin4Life on twitter.
I just went back and looked at the tweets - it looks to me like PAIGE said that the bus driver at HER school called one of the kids stupid. I don't see Kate saying anything like that about her kids'
driver - only that he/she is uncooperative or some such thing.
fidosmommy, you can see what Kate tweeted about the kids' bus driver on the first page of this thread. She said the bus driver said a "bad word" to one of her kids. Paige said HER bus driver told the kids on her bus to look for dead bodies as they passed an accident scene.
What's funny is the same sheeple who have given us so much grief are exactly the kind of "mentally unstable" people mentioned in this post I think should be protected from themselves when reality shows come aknockin'. We're out to protect them of all people.
I'm not familiar, how many points or speeding tickets do you get in PA before you get your license suspended or revoked?
They start "corrective action" at 6 points. Suspension starts at 11.
Kate has been lucky. Her first ticket was written as "obedience to traffic control devices" rather than 70 in a 55 (which it was reported to be) so was no points.
This last one (Sept 11) was a turnpike violation, which again is no points, so she is holding at 8 points.
She paid her fine on the Sept 11 ticket of $110.50, bringing her fine total to $549.50.
Here is the page that you can look up the information regarding suspensions and what violations are worth points etc: http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/pub472.pdf
no worries. kates fans think its ok to speed. one said she would happily ride in a car with kate. brownnose keeps making jokes about kate speeding to "rile up the haters" isnt she someone you want mentoring YOUR Teen girl. someone who purposly "riles' up others and approves and JOKES about high limit speeding. almost 90mph! that is instant death. you wont surive an accicent at the speed but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA its so funny to joke about.
funny thing is if jon had 4 speeding tickets - one with kids in the car _they would be saying kate should halt his visitation.
hypocrits.
EM
And EM, they are so sheeplish. Kate says how horrible to run a stop sign, they say how horrible to run a stop sign. Kate laughs about going almost 90mph and you could kill someone or youself, they laugh about going almost 90mph. Isnt this the definition of a flock of sheep? Living up to their name.
Kate and her seating charts every single freaking day?
I can't be reading this right. Kate has a seating chart for the SCHOOL BUS that the driver and other school children are expected to follow?
In what reality is this even remotely acceptable? Why would the driver agree to this? If I was a parent with a child on that bus and caught wind of this, I would lose my shit about it. There is no way that Kate should be dictating anything about the rules of the school bus.
Please tell me I am misunderstanding this....
the minds of sheeple are truly something. i cant tell if they really LOVE kate or if they just love the idea of tweeting a celeb.
myself, i am very open minded. i don't just "hate" i research..i make decisions..i decide if someone is worth being respected. i just don't jump on any cause.
the thing that separates me from a sheeple. i have no problem giving kate props if she does something right. i also have no issue calling her out on BS. same with jon. unfortunately the sheep think it's ok to believe everything they hear about jon but refuse to open an eye to kate's long history. they feel she is "bullied" so they jump to protect her.
what about jon being bullied? he has been taunted my the media for 2 years and has no voice. nor is he asking for one. i respect that.
finally..i think some sheep have ulterior motives. mk is very vocal about wanting to be published. she probably thinks kate is her "in" in to the media world.
at least i can say my intentions in life are upfront.
i can understand being a fan of kate. she's their diet guru, running inspiration, organization queen, beauty god, bullied mother of 8. whatever. that's fine. but being a fan does not mean you have to defend and joke about her outright endangering the lives of others. that defense is what defines these sheeple. they just don't get it.
EM
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And,since I no u will ask,2 avoid fights, I made a daily rotating assigned seat chart for school bus on 3X5 cards! Works wonders!
Sep 6
Call me crazy, maybe the kids should learn to work out seats on their own?
Didn't Kate at one time say, I believe what...the first day of school for the kids she wanted to ride the school but to "lay down the law?" What the hell? I didn't know there were any laws on how to ride a school bus! You get on, you sit next to whomever you feel like and talk, look out the window then when you get to school you get off. Since when did Kate feel the need to dictate to her kids how to ride the school bus? Please it's just dumb.
I mean I've got a few kids I don't and I've never seen any other parent with kids laying down laws now do you? What is this like the, "how to eat your lunch," fiasco where her kids recited, in union: Sandwich, fruit, "crunchy thing," (What the heck is that?), dessert. Kate is a whole bag of interesting...interesting not in a good way either.
@SiobhanR111 @shujax no. Strictly assigned always! They have little to claim for themselves only- seats in bbb&@ table r taken seriously!lol
u know...whatever is happening with the bus driver is not for twitter kate. in this economy it is bad karma to wish others out of a job. have you tried TALKING TO bus driver and not AT her about your concerns? have you looked at the whole picture? keep trying to ruin the lives of others and see how well that turns out for you.
heck i did a phone survey the other day. i always take them time even if busy because i know its someones job and they need to meet a quota. i was asked to rate news anchors on local tv. i gave every anchor a high rank just for the fact no way was I PERSONALLY going to help put someone out of a job.
funny..kate can scream at and belittle her kids and everyone else..but if the busdriver has issues we cant say "oh she must be stressed a being a single mom" nope its hope she gets fired. where is HER symphathy and excuses? kate gets excuses. why not anyone else who may have "stress"
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@Kateplusmy8 since when does a parent get to say where their children sits on the bus, isn't that the bus drivers job??
@shujax no. It's my job. Parents run budding to our school; not school district run
Sep 6
The RHONJ are as bad as J&k&8. Theresa G.'s s'in -law was on the other night. She was bathing her young son and daughter and the cameras were right in there. Some people never learn, pity. Another family's kids for all the ped's. out there to gawk at.
@SiobhanR111 @shujax no. Strictly assigned always! They have little to claim for themselves only- seats in bbb&@ table r taken seriously!lol
Well it's good to know that in addition to the food issues/insecurity she is setting them up for, she is also setting them up to be hoarders, as well.
I'm still trying to get my mind around the seating chart thing. I thought she had to be talking about the BBB (as she is in this tweet), but the other one definitely says SCHOOL BUS.
I don't understand why the school/driver/other kids/other parents would be ok with her having this level of control on the school bus.
If my child was going to that school, I envision myself always on the phone or in the school office losing my mind over something Kate was trying to "mastermind" that effected MY child with her crazy controlling ways.
I'm not complaining, but I am wondering why the blog was put back on moderated status.
Did something happen that I missed? I did read until very late tonight.
I don't see my 1st post here, blogger must have eaten it. Did anyone see Levi Johnson on Showbiz tonight last night, I think?
He's written a book and AJ asked him,"what does it feel like to be rated 6th most hated person or guy in the world, next to Jon Gosselin?"
I don't know when the poll was done, but they are never going to let him off the hook.Compared to some of the people in the world, Jon just isn't anywhere near 5th hated to me. Hate is such a strong word.
amyf said...
With the bits and pieces of Twitter that people post here, I usually can't figure out who's saying what to whom, and what it's in response to. Is there any EASY way of seeing what's what in a sequence that makes sense?
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I find it easiest to just click on the tweet on Kate's page. A box will open to the right showing what she's replying to and also who replied to that tweet afterwards. (There are other sites where they show you the user's tweets and replies without clicking, but I find them very confusing to follow.)
Admin, living close to the school is no guarantee against a long bus ride. The kids in my neighborhood have a 30 - 45 minute bus ride to the public school and it's only about a mile away. And no, they can't walk or ride bikes. It's 2 lane country road/55 MPH speed limit and crossing a 4 lane/65 MPH speed limit, to get there. It all depends on the way a bus route is laid out.
Kate's kids are in for a world of hurt when they reach adulthood. They will have no idea how to make the simplest decisions for themselves. Kids need rules/structure/guidelines, not regimentation. I sure hope that Jon allows them to make some choices for themselves.
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I'm amazed that given Kate has no job, she doesn't drive her kids to school herself!! I commute over an hour each way to the school I work at, and some of my students live in my neighbourhood. Their parents don't put them on buses, but load them into the car themselves.
I have to say that I have no problem with kids being shouted at. I'm sorry admin, but at some point in life we all get yelled at, and we need to learn how to respond to it appropriately. If kids never experience being told off how will they cope in the workplace, or the world??
I recently went to a teachers seminar on building resilience, the main focus from all the speakers was that kids need to fail ... and they need to learn to cope with it. Coddling them by making decisions for them, always fighting their battles, telling them that teachers who give them bad grades don't know anything when they don't pass tests etc is only serving to build children who will not cope well in the real world.
The Gosselin children really worry me in this regard!
Chiming in to share information about who may be in charge of the bus and bus driver. This is all from my own experiences, not related to the 8.
My children go to public school. Our county does not own its' own bus fleet. the county contracts the services of area school bus companies. If there is a problem on a bus in our county, the first step is the assistant principal of the school IF the problem is related to students. If the problem is related to the driver (lateness, behavior towards students, safety), you contact the assistant principal AND contact the director of transportation at the county level. The director of transportation is in charge of all of the contracts and the interaction with the bus companies.
(side note: it is really difficult to find people who want to drive a school bus for x-amount of dollars an hour with no benefits - it is a high stress job, and the drivers are hired for their driving ability, not their ability to interact with children of all ages. Background checks ARE run.)
Now, private schools are a different matter. The school MAY contract the bus for students in a particular geographical location to ride, and set the central bus stop (shopping center parking lot).
Other private schools offer no transportation, but parents in a certain geographical location may get together and contract the bus. The bus may pick up at one central location or 3 or 4 places between farthest client and school.
As a parent, it has been difficult to hear "our bus driver is mean" or "the bus driver yelled at me." That doesn't give me enough information, but it does rile up the Mama Bear who lives inside. The comment always turns into a conversation so I can understand the situation. And, I know I am odd, but I have told my kids (they are all teens now) that the bus ride is under 3 miles, sit down and be quiet, get home. If the bus driver is yelling, remember, the bus driver knows how to drive a bus, not necessarily how to interact with 50 kids of varying ages.
re dating show - what kind of guy of ANY age, let along the one on her Bucket List (older)would be interested in hooking up with an aging bitch with eight (count 'em, 8) unruly kids?
re 2-4 specials a year - what does that family have to offer in the way of interesting and entertaining?????? ?? ? -? (that's the tups, the twin, HER, -him)
finally..i think some sheep have ulterior motives. mk is very vocal about wanting to be published. she probably thinks kate is her "in" in to the media world.
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mk "Brownie" has also asked Kate to help with her teen workshops. In exchange, Brownie would be Kate's personal assistant. Kate didn't reply. Nice try, though! I believe that getting published is one big motive and having Kate's name associated with her workshops is the other. She could go national then; write a book (or another book) for teen moms since she'd be the accepted authority. Kate's name was to be the magic carpet to these things. Since Kate's been fairly non-receptive, MK has started kissing up to some other celebrities, too. She seems to have chosen them with care. One is a publishing executive, I believe.
Cereal hit the 3 week mark yesterday.
I actually feel bad for Brownie. I feel bad saying something about a non-public figure. But when you put yourself out there...
Just skimming through, but
If the kids' bus driver is really so bad, why doesn't Katie drive her own children to and from school? Or make her paid help do it?
Oh that's right. It's easier to just bitch about it on twitter. Getting all that sheeple sympathy feeds Katie's ego and solves everything. (eye roll)
I do agree the kids need to learn to deal with problems on their own, I'm the biggest believer in that. But this bus driver is supposed to be a role model. If she really is calling the kids an ugly name, I think this is one of the few times adults SHOULD step in to help and get to the bottom of what this is about. I had a middle school teacher once who was constantly teasing two students about how they should date and would make a good couple. They were MORTIFIED. To the point the girl would cry sometimes. Their parents called the school, told him off, and it never happened again. Frankly I think he should have been fired, middle schoolers are so fragile. Once in a blue moon teachers/bus drivers can be bullies too and I don't think it sends the best message to kids to just handle it yourself don't turn to trusted adults for help. This is the one time IMO Kate SHOULD intervene.
Now the seating charts? Good grief woman let the children learn how to find a seat on their own.
There are kids of all ages who ride the same bus as the Gosselin's and I'm guessing some also get on at different stops along the route. I can't imagine an upper school student who gets on the bus before the Gosselin's being happy about Kate's seat assignments if they can't sit where they want. IMO, if you're the last on the bus, you sit wherever there's a seat. Those on the bus first should get their pick of the seats and Kate should butt out unless the school/bus service/other parents asked her to intervene.
Part of going to school and socializing with peers is learning to get along and work out problems on your own -- something that Kate does not let her kids do. It's no surprise to me and many others that some had problems last year and I see more and bigger problems coming for the kids if she keeps interfering with normal peer interactions.
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Admin, living close to the school is no guarantee against a long bus ride. The kids in my neighborhood have a 30 - 45 minute bus ride to the public school and it's only about a mile away.
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Yes I know that can happen. Like I said I know we've thoroughly discussed this and I don't want it to turn into a fight, but ideally I would prefer kids not spend long stretches of time on a school bus whether they are two minutes from school or two hours from school. Or if they do, there needs to be a lot of weighing involved. There have been several solid studies and reports to various Boards of Education about how long commutes on buses have a huge impact on kids. Even as far back as 1998 a Vermont study was concluding that "busing could be considered exploitation of children's time, and that students with large average times on buses report lower grades, poorer levels of fitness, fewer social activities, and poor study habits. Knowing more about the effects of busing might lead to better choices about closing, maintaining, or opening new schools in rural areas."
I think we have to view long bus rides through the lens of what's going on with kids today. It's not like a few decades ago where you went to school, maybe played a sport, had a little homework to do and that's it. Now kids are doing things after school every day, many schools REQUIRE at least one sport and at least one club, most kids do many more than that due to pressure to beef up resumes for college, the vast majority of schools are passing out massive amounts of homework/reading/projects. Suddenly an hour or more bus ride has become something that is robbing a kid of time that is a lot more precious.
As someone else pointed out, had they just stayed where they were at the old house there is a lovely private school ten minutes away. Or, Kate could downsize, move closer and drive them. Kate is impatient to wait for anything even being rude to her stylist in New York when he wasn't ready to style her hair right away (Kate's Night Out), Kate has NO commute, but she'll make her kids suffer huge commutes to make sure she has them in the "best of the best." When as we all know, there are many other wonderful schools closer.
Just Mediocre I agree, and it's become very apparent that Kate is not only robbing the kids of big life lessons, but lots of little ones that will add up.
Sure it's not a big deal to figure out how to get a seat on a bus. But it's still a social skill. And translates to other social skills. Find a seat at school, in the cafeteria, at a conference, on the airplane. If you never learn this you'll get by, but if you're also never learning how to dish up a meal yourself, how to sit in an adult chair, how to pick out what you want to wear and what backpack you want, all these little things Kate often won't let them do?
It may be easier for Kate to just control it, but it is a LIFE SKILL to be able to walk onto a full bus or something similar, and politely ask a kid you don't know if you could sit next to him. More social skills learning opportunities happen as you practice small talk and making friends.
I assume Kate isn't telling other kids where to sit, just her own. So her kids aren't even getting to sit with other classmates and work on their social skills?
A bit OT, but something we discussed here when E! THS did a show about Kate.
E! THS recently did a story about Bethenny Frankel. I haven't watched it yet, but apparently it was very good and very accurate. I think it's quite interesting how Kate said that nothing in hers was true, etc, etc., yet Bethenny says that hers was "completely accurate".
I wonder if 'inaccuracies' existed in Kate's show was it because no one was willing to talk on camera? As I felt when Kate's show aired, she refuses to admit the truth about herself and has to keep the lies alive, but why was no one willing to tell the true story about Kate?
Bethenny Bethenny Frankel
Props to @eonline for having integrity.It was completely accurate. they are totally trustworthy. This is my life
Bethenny Bethenny Frankel
They got it completely accurate! WATCH tonight - 10:00 PM EST on E!
21 Sept
If the bus driver gets removed from the route, maybe Kate can drive the bus. She needs a job. Let's see "Can do Kate" drive the bus! Although her driving record may disqualify her from that job.
yes! Let's see can do Kate drive a bus without yelling at any of the kids!
It was 11AM her time before she finally got up and said she's about to eat breakfast. 11AM! I have never seen such laziness.
By the Lexxi is Livin4Life on twitter.
Kate is a twit, you're right.
Trippin' is Deborah and CJ is Carolyne.
You can find them on the fan blogs if you're interested.
Um, Didn't think so.
You can find them on the fan blogs if you're interested.
Um, Didn't think so.
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lmao. They just don't seem to understand that they're so very interested in us in our every word and breath, but we're just not interested in them or what they say. Must drive them crazy. Just like Kate and her fans. They're interested in her, she's not really interested in them.
Just Me said... "This last one (Sept 11) was a turnpike violation, which again is no points, so she is holding at 8 points.
She paid her fine on the Sept 11 ticket of $110.50, bringing her fine total to $549.50.
Here is the page that you can look up the information regarding suspensions and what violations are worth points etc"
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/fact_sheets/pub472.pdf
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No one has been able to find any traffic violations for Kate between February of 2010 and July of 2011. According to the PA points code you posted, Kate would have lost 3 points for having no violations for 12 consecutive months. By my math she now has 5 points.
Just Mediocre Me, I watched the Bethanny THS and she was interviewed for almost the entire thing. If it wasn't her in the chair it was her family and friends. Kate's was different. No one they interviewed had even met her. So I do see the difference.
Maddy Mae
Thanks for sharing the quote from the 1998 study on the effects of busing, Admin. I have been an opponent of unnecessary busing for quite some time, and it's nice to see some scientific information to back up that opinion.
Obviously in many cases a bus is a child's only way to school. But many parents put their child on the bus simply because it is there and they don't want to take the trouble to drive them to school. Of course we should all be aware of the environment and not just jump into the car any chance we get. But most of the parents who put their kids on the bus even though they are available to drive them aren't doing it for the environment, they are doing it because they are lazy.
When my children were in middle school, we lived a mile from the school. They could walk four blocks to the bus and ride it to school. The problem with that was that they needed to leave over fifty minutes before school started to ride the bus. I could drive them (three to four minutes one way), thereby giving them an extra forty minutes or so at home each morning, forty minutes of sleep, forty minutes of finishing homework, whatever. The cost to me was less than ten minutes and two miles on my vehicle. Kind of a no brainer to me.
Another disadvantage of kids riding the bus every day is lack of parental involvement in the school. Around here the schools with the most involvment are the ones with the fewest bus riders.
There's skills to be learned on a bus, like getting along with kids you don't know, understanding that it's not all about you and that you sometimes have to wait while other kids are picked up. But Kate has them on that stupid seating chart so how does that help to interact with other kids? Kate doesn't work, she could bring these kids to school. And you have to weigh a very long bus ride versus the learning experience of it. How long is too long before the benefits don't outweigh the consequences?
My relative's school in an area with good weather has "homeroom" outside every day. The parents/whoever is bring the kids to school are welcome to join. And so many of them do! It's nice because the parents hear the announcements and know what's going on, it's a fantastic meetup opportunity for parents to plan weekend playdates and other things outside school, and sort of transitions the kids smoothly from home to school each day. Even just taking the kids a few times I could see there were some really nice friendships among the parents, they enjoyed each other. It reminded me of smaller schools that used to be so prevalent, it created a real sense of community gathering. There's a fine line between being too overbearing and just cutting kids loose, but the data is there--involved parents equals successful kids.
Regarding the bus driver. I don't have a problem if the bus driver disciplines the children on the bus, by correcting their bad behavior such as misbehaving by refusing to stay in their seat, jumping around, bullying or putting the safety of the other children and bus driver at risk. I would have a problem with using foul language or physically handling the child. If a child continually misbehaves, I would hope that the bus driver would be able to report it to the school and the parent/s are notified to handle.
Just knowing Kate's history of rewriting history, I don't totally believe her version of the whole story.
I think one of her children acted up and was corrected on this behavior, Kate was told of it and is blaming it on the bus driver not her child.
Just add the bus driver on to the many "that just doesn't know how to...." list.
The bad part of busing so long to a school also, is that none of the kids' school mates live close. That is one thing that I remember that was so fun. All my school mates lived very close and we played all the time after school and on the weekends. If you live so far away, it just seems there is no community sense.
I can only imagine the Gosselin kids also get picked on on the bus, because their mommy tells them where and who to sit with. When my kids we in school, it was usually a "class" system. The older kids, 5-6th graders got the back seats, with the exception of maybe a "cool" 3rd or 4th grader. I'll bet what ever the bus driver said is nothing worse that what their own mother says in their presence.
PJ's momma said...
No Regrets, hold on to your hat. You're in for a wild ride!
September 23, 2011 5:14 PM
Administrator said...
No Regrets, that's the one. Enjoy it. It puts a face on people who troll the internet with fake accounts and fake stories and play people and I expected to come out feeling angry, but instead just felt really sorry for them.
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Thanks for the info. I am really interested in watching this movie now. I don't know how I missed it last year.
I am not naive, I do know that things like this have happened. I watched a few of the other "Catfish stories", and WOW. What people go through to trick people. To pray on their feelings and whatever else they are doing this for. They must be truly lonely and/or just twisted. I can't wait to see this. Thanks again for the info.
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In the Neighborhood said...
Regrets and Hippie: You rang? E-town Neighbor here. I see that I have been declared MIA. Thanks for sending a search party. I've been lying low. Someone decided he/she liked my name and ran with it, posting some pretty bizarre stuff using words that would make old Spike down at the corner tattoo parlor turn red"
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There you are! I have missed your posts. Sorry to hear that happened to you. People are weird these days, I just can't figure out why they do some of the stupid things they do.
GLAD you are back!
One other thing that bothered me about the bus tweets was that someone suggested the driver be transferred to another route. Kate said that had already been done. So in other words, "not on MY bus, but it is fine for your MEDIOCRE bus.". I am not saying the driver should be fired or even disciplined - obviously I don't know the situation. But if she is horrible enough that she shouldn't drive Kate's kids, she shouldn't drive any kids.
To clarify...Kate said that the request for the transfer had already been made, not that it was a done deal.
Calling a child 'an ugly name or word' of whatever happened it not good. BUT given her exaggerations and lies, hard to tell what happened. WHAT did the child do? If safety was compromised then who knows? Smart mouth? Two sides to everything, then the truth is somewhere in the middle, usually.
Hate to see moderation again :( Someone act up as usual?
Could someone explain the background of Brownie and the cereal? I'm fairly recent to the Twitter stream. From what I gather, Brownie lives in Berks Co and tries to give free cereal to K8. People rib her about "stale cereal". How did this start, why is it stale, and has K8 ever actually met with her and gotten the cereal? Is that why it's stale? Because K8 keeps blowing her off? TIA
No one has been able to find any traffic violations for Kate between February of 2010 and July of 2011. According to the PA points code you posted, Kate would have lost 3 points for having no violations for 12 consecutive months. By my math she now has 5 points.
Yep you are right, it's 5 points. Still because she is lucky with the first and last ticket being non-point givers.
I was surprised turnpike incidents aren't point givers, but I looked up the actual turnpike code just to be sure, since it's not on the sheet I linked and no points are mentioned in the actual code, so I guess they really don't take off points for any turnpike violations.
So if she can manage to make it to August (it was actually August not July) of 2013, she will be down to 0 again.
Shall we start a pool on whether she makes it?
What REALLY pisses me off about the bus tweets is that she's talking about this publicly! She started off asking her followers for "momma bear reaction stories" because she obviously wanted to talk about this bus driver.
Then she laid in with several really inappropriate tweets about her kids' bus driver.
What a BITCH. Even if this bus driver is AWFUL, you don't talk shit about them on twitter, especially when you're still a semi-public figure. That's just wrong. All people have is Kate's side, and we all know how incredibly, brazenly dishonest she is.
She won't be around much this weekend, the kid's are gone. I noticed looking back over the couple of weeks since her show ended, she's been around the kids even less than usual. That was predicted, but still sad.
She's got twitter and a super lame website. Whoooooo. LOL.
Maybe the ugly word was 'Mediocre'! lol
It was 11AM her time before she finally got up and said she's about to eat breakfast. 11AM! I have never seen such laziness.
Actually, I think it was more like noon. I'm on the same time zone as her. It is 12:57pm here now and it says "about an hour ago" for me on her tweet.
How does someone with 8, count 'em, 8 kids sleep til noon?
Must be the kids weekend with Jon (at least I hope it is if she is keeping her lazy ass in bed until noon).
Localyocul said...
Could someone explain the background of Brownie and the cereal? I'm fairly recent to the Twitter stream. From what I gather, Brownie lives in Berks Co and tries to give free cereal to K8. People rib her about "stale cereal". How did this start, why is it stale, and has K8 ever actually met with her and gotten the cereal? Is that why it's stale? Because K8 keeps blowing her off? TIA
September 24, 2011 9:54 AM
This brownie person is a professional butt kisser of all things Kate. She lives in the area and saw a sale on Sobe, asked Kate if she wanted her to buy some for her, she said yes. Brownie went back the next day. Most of the Sobe was sold, BUT they had organic cereal on sale. Cheap, because it was a 'couple of months expired". So Kate Said YES she wanted it. This was 3 or 4 weeks ago. No meet up yet for the cereal. The Cereal Soap continues. Now the talk in 'code' when they discuss the possible meet up. LOL
Localyocul said...
Could someone explain the background of Brownie and the cereal?
Further, this brownie person has tried everything to get close to/meet or get involved with Kate. Semi stalker with all her tweets. Strange, weird and Kate is going to meet up with this stranger she has only talked to on the freakin internet. Nutty woman.
Anonymous said... It was 11AM her time before she finally got up and said she's about to eat breakfast. 11AM! I have never seen such laziness.
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Babymama, one of Kate's most devoted fans, was on Dr. Oz a few months back talking about how she'd sleep until noon on weekends, despite having two young kids. The story was on increasing your energy.
Michelle said...Babymama, one of Kate's most devoted fans, was on Dr. Oz a few months back talking about how she'd sleep until noon on weekends, despite having two young kids. The story was on increasing your energy.
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Hahah I saw that Dr Oz segment. This is the same person who goes right out and buys the same shoes and clothes as Kate. LOL Someone I just don't 'see' that.
Kate's Cart said...
I can only imagine the Gosselin kids also get picked on on the bus, because their mommy tells them where and who to sit with. When my kids we in school, it was usually a "class" system. The older kids, 5-6th graders got the back seats, with the exception of maybe a "cool" 3rd or 4th grader. I'll bet what ever the bus driver said is nothing worse that what their own mother says in their presence.
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That's how it still is. My DD is a Freshman. As a 5th grader they got the back, then as a 6th it was back to the front. By 8th the school actually let the 8th graders leave 5 minutes early because the 6th graders take longer to get ready and the 8th graders were back to the back. Now as a 9th grader she's back to the bottom of the totem pole. That's how real life is and if I had gotten on her bus as a 5th grader and told her where to sit I still wouldn't have heard the end of it.
She complains about everything she has to do it's all on her, yet can't even drag herself out of bed at a decent hour to get started. She doesn't have to get up at 5am but would it kill her to greet the morning at 830 or 9 on a wekeend?
No Regrets said...
This brownie person is a professional butt kisser of all things Kate. She lives in the area and saw a sale on Sobe, asked Kate if she wanted her to buy some for her, she said yes. Brownie went back the next day. Most of the Sobe was sold, BUT they had organic cereal on sale. Cheap, because it was a 'couple of months expired". So Kate Said YES she wanted it. This was 3 or 4 weeks ago. No meet up yet for the cereal. The Cereal Soap continues. Now the talk in 'code' when they discuss the possible meet up. LOL
Thank you! There is a store up there that sells dented cans and expired dry foods cheap. What boggles my mind is this Brownie woman supposedly runs teen girl workshops yet she encourages that poor Paige who is obsessed with a woman who is obsessed with herself. Paige went out to run off some candy and wound up with shin splints. That's emotionally healthy. And the stride on Kate in her "running" pics is not one of a runner, it's one of a speedwalker.
I bet the kids sit where they want.
The kids probably ignore Kate's stupid chart & sit wherever they want.
Localyocul said...Thank you! There is a store up there that sells dented cans and expired dry foods cheap. What boggles my mind is this Brownie woman supposedly runs teen girl workshops yet she encourages that poor Paige who is obsessed with a woman who is obsessed with herself. Paige went out to run off some candy and wound up with shin splints. That's emotionally healthy. And the stride on Kate in her "running" pics is not one of a runner, it's one of a speedwalker.
This person counsels teens, but there are no professional credentials. That would really trouble me as a parent. That young fan should not be encouraged. Yet, they all do. Right now, she is 'crying herself to sleep' because of being 'ignored and it looks like (Kate) doesn't care' on twitter. This, to me, is very disturbing. Several have offered to talk to her by DM. I would really wish they suggest she talk to her MOM or someone IRL. The entire thing is just bizarre. Very unnatural. And yes people have posted, who are runners that she is a 'walker'. With all her lies, I seriously doubt this woman runs 10 or 11 miles. I just don't believe her. It is probably 5 or less LOL
Did Kate tweet that she made seating arrangements for the BBB, table AND the school bus> I thought it was just for BBB and table.
If she is making seating assignments for the kids on the school bus, and I were the bus driver, I'd tell Kate where she could stuff index card. How can you be telling 8 kids where they are going to sit without telling the rest of the kids where they'll be sitting as well? I don't get it.
I just watched an old 20/20 about the fakery on Facebook, statistics are that around 80% of what is posted is fake. It was a story about a woman who made up an entire family on Facebook and suckered some young guy into falling in love with her fake Facebook daughter. So, let's think about this....Twitter could be the same, certified or not. My feeling is that some of these so-called fans are not what they seem. I would not worry about some teen named Paige. If Kate wants to believe these fans and email strangers, she is asking for trouble.
I agree, Kate is not a runner. Every runner I have ever known is as skinny as a rail. Kate either trots or walks and I doubt it's for 10 miles.
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amyf said...
With the bits and pieces of Twitter that people post here, I usually can't figure out who's saying what to whom, and what it's in response to. Is there any EASY way of seeing what's what in a sequence that makes sense?
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I find it easiest to just click on the tweet on Kate's page. A box will open to the right showing what she's replying to and also who replied to that tweet afterwards. (There are other sites where they show you the user's tweets and replies without clicking, but I find them very confusing to follow.)
September 24, 2011 4:11 AM
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I'm enough of a dummy that I don't even know what you mean by "on Kate's page." What page where? Someone please tell me? Thanks. (actually, I don't even know why I care enough to be asking, but for some reason I'm still curious)
The "Catfish" movie and the catfish stories on Youtube were pretty sad. One kids posted that he is 14, played games with a girl who said she was 15. They finally agreed to meet. Turned out the girl was only NINE years old! The 14 year old was scared to death. NINE? And this kid actually went to meet someone off the internet. That would scare the beeejezus out of me. WHY aren't these parents supervising these kids?
Sorry, in my house when my kids were growing up, there was no privacy in a lot of things. Yes, I read things and yes, I monitored phone calls also. My kids never knew I did this until they were older. They do it now with their kids. You simply cannot be too careful when kids are concerned. And it was not the fact I didn't trust MY kids, it was everyone else I was concerned about, mostly. Too easy to fall for stuff when you are young.
Did Kate tweet she made index cards for seating on the school bus as well as the BBB and the table? I thought she just mentioned the BBB and the table.
Sorry for duplicates. Blogger is slow or something.
Always Skeptical said...
Did Kate tweet that she made seating arrangements for the BBB, table AND the school bus> I thought it was just for BBB and table.
If she is making seating assignments for the kids on the school bus, and I were the bus driver, I'd tell Kate where she could stuff index card. How can you be telling 8 kids where they are going to sit without telling the rest of the kids where they'll be sitting as well? I don't get it.
If a child is sitting by themselves, I would imagine they would have to move so the G8 could sit together. I am sure the other students have to be involved in same way with this seating arrangement. I still don't get it. If one kid likes to sit with a certain sibling, she makes them rotate? LOL I don't know, it is just so controlling. Let them sit with friends, or whoever they want to. They must argue about it, and this is her way of handling it. Instead of teaching them to 'get along'. Weird control issues.
Always Skeptical said...
Did Kate tweet she made index cards for seating on the school bus as well as the BBB and the table? I thought she just mentioned the BBB and the table.
September 24, 2011 11:13 AM
She has 'strict' assigned seats in all those you mentioned, including the school bus. She has a chart for every single day on the BUS. Wow.
Always Skeptical said...
Did Kate tweet she made index cards for seating on the school bus as well as the BBB and the table? I thought she just mentioned the BBB and the table.
I had the same question. I thought I had to be misreading what people were saying. Someone posted this for me yesterday:
kateplusmy8
And,since I no u will ask,2 avoid fights, I made a daily rotating assigned seat chart for school bus on 3X5 cards! Works wonders!
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If you want to take a walk down memory lane, check out the original TLC documentary on the Gosselins. Kate just isn't that same person but the warning signs are there.....all the notes posted everywhere; Jon calls himself a "sheep"; she complains about the house because it's all they can afford and rolls her eyes; Jon leaves for work at 7 but Kate doesn't roll out of bed until 8 a.m. Any of us who have raised babies know darn well they don't sleep until 8 so she just ignored their crying and soiled diapers.
Just Me...thanks for the info. Wow! Knowing that, I'll take Kate's complaint about the bus driver with a grain of salt. If Kate's kids are sooo unruly that they need seating assignments every day she's doing something wrong.
I should think the bus driver would be grateful to be moved to another bus!!!
amyf: Type "twazzup" in your browser, then select "Twazzup Realtime News. Then a blank field will pop up - type: kateplusmy8 then hit search. Hope this works.
I imagine when kids are never allowed to make any decisions for themselves they might be pretty helpless such that they wouldn't know how to pick a seat. Kate is not doing these kids any favors. The result of this kind of extreme control (and this all goes back to Kate trying to control these kids and make them dependent on her) is kids that I saw in college calling their mommies every two hours to ask them what to do. You're an adult now, it's time to decide on a few things without consulting Mommy.
I think Kate wants that. Instead of being happy and proud like most parents are to watch their kids spread their wins, she wants these kids dependent n her as long as possible.
I'm new to all this twitter stuff. Does anyone know if other so-called celebrities communicate with fans through twitter, or only the class Z??? I can understand why some of the class A celebs might want to advise fans of their latest announcement, but do they actually answer when fans tweet?
I wish one of the late night comedians gets to read some of these 'messages'; it would be a riot to listen to.
Administrator said...
I think Kate wants that. Instead of being happy and proud like most parents are to watch their kids spread their wins, she wants these kids dependent n her as long as possible.
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I can completely agree with this! I've been in college a few years, moved out of state and I've come across kids who have absolutely no clue what to do when on their own. Kids who flounder, kids who drop out, some kids who are too afraid to make a decision on their own.
It is poor parenting for Kate to create the situation. If you don't teach kids to be independent some never learn I fear. Now I don't mean to step on anybody's toes here and this could maybe not happen to Kate's kids...kind of doubt it with her control issues. Or am I wrong?
Exactly. Don't get me wrong I think letting a kid spread their wings is a HARD thing to do as a parent. It's just so much easier to do things for them, control their decisions, help them whenever they fall. And kids do need to feel you're there for them too and will help them with things they need help with.
But if your kid forgets to bring his trumpet to school for band practice, sure, you could knock off work and bring it to them. Or, you could let it play out, let them get in trouble with their music teacher and sit through practice without an instrument.
Which approach is really going to teach a kid to keep track of his things, think about what he needs each day, and never forget again? And which one means many more times you'll have to drive his trumpet to school?
Is your kid going to be mad at you if you won't bring it for them? Probably. But ten years later they'll thank you. Kate can never think big picture about how all these decisions will play out a long time from now. She can only think what feels the best in teh moment.
The kids whose parents let them suffer the consequences were not the kids I saw calling their mommy when there was a spider in the dorm room.
Administrator said...
I imagine when kids are never allowed to make any decisions for themselves they might be pretty helpless such that they wouldn't know how to pick a seat. Kate is not doing these kids any favors. The result of this kind of extreme control (and this all goes back to Kate trying to control these kids and make them dependent on her) is kids that I saw in college calling their mommies every two hours to ask them what to do. You're an adult now, it's time to decide on a few things without consulting Mommy.
I think Kate wants that. Instead of being happy and proud like most parents are to watch their kids spread their wins, she wants these kids dependent n her as long as possible.
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That's it absolutely. She needs them cute, under her control, dressed alike, unable to think for themselves, etc ... or she can't make any money off of them. I mean really, who wants to watch a television show of a set of twins and a set of sextuplets who are grown up, with varying ideas and personalities? For cripes sake - they were in high chairs for 7 years! and still dressing alike?! No normal children of that age do those things.
I hope the best for these kids - but I fear they are going to have a very hard row to hoe in the real world. And I've no doubt, when one of them makes a bad decision and ends up in a rag mag, it will be all Jon's fault according to Kate ... I can almost see the headlines now. Sad, so very sad.
Marie, you know what else happens to some of these kids in college? Kids running home to Mom every weekend to feel safe there and to have Mom do their laundry and make them a meal. Is this fine sometimes, of course! And I realize some kids have to go home because there are family things at home like a sick family member or what have you.
But for the kids who were running home every weekend just to go home, next thing you know they're left behind. They're not around to form deep friendships with. They're missing out on weekend events, weekend sports games, bonding time with your dorm mates. Saturday night movies and dinner, club events, fraternity and sororities, marching band, or just relaxing in the quad with a Frisbee. Before you know it, your friends are closer than ever, and you're the weekend kid who wasn't there for this funny thing or that funny thing. I felt sorry for those kids.
Admin said...I think Kate wants that. Instead of being happy and proud like most parents are to watch their kids spread their wins, she wants these kids dependent n her as long as possible.
That's exactly what the great Gosselin8 College Days parody pointed out so brilliantly.
Administrator said...
But if your kid forgets to bring his trumpet to school for band practice, sure, you could knock off work and bring it to them. Or, you could let it play out, let them get in trouble with their music teacher and sit through practice without an instrument.
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Again boy can I agree! I have a friend, her kid left his homework behind one day, I told her you know, let him forget it because then he'd learn to remember it. What does she do? Oh, no she couldn't do that because then she'd feel bad she didn't help him. I just shook my head. Those type things you let your kids screw up otherwise they won't be able to help themselves. Parents aren't going to walk behind you the rest of your life. Even if Kate acts like it.
Kill the spider!! And if you can't find it after you panic, live and let live I guess.
http://twitiq.com/Kateplusmy8
That's what I use when I want to see what she's replying to.
I didn't look just now, so no idea if all bus tweets are still there. But this morning (8ish EST) they were all still there.
I bet the bus driver hasn't signed a confidentiality agreement! If Kate is lying once again - I hope the bus driver lets her have it!
My youngest is 32 years old, happily married with an exciting job that he loves and a home they are slowly fixing up, "putting their own stamp on it"..... hard work but rewarding.
The best gift he gives me is telling me DH and I did a good job raising him, that he has memories of a happy childhood.
I wonder what kart's kids will be doing at that age and if they will even be speaking to her.
Admin,
Me personally, I am glad for the moderation again. It will keep out trolls, skanks, shit-stirers and other loser types!
I was appalled to see the post that I mentioned to you - I'm glad it's gone and I'm glad you will be making sure the threads remain dignified.
This is, almost without exception, a very mature, well-thought and spoken group here. I love the humor and insights.
For me, moderation isn't a problem at all, but a plus......... sorry it's more work for you.
Kudos!
They couldn't pay me enough to be a bus driver or a teacher to Kate's kids. Nothing at all would/could keep her happy. You know, those kids deserve life served on a "golden platter." I wouldn't believe Kate's version of anything. Remember, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. We saw it all on film. Read it all in interviews.
I agree with all who believe those kids are on that school bus for too many hrs. per day. Don't kid yourselves, Kate and Jon wanted the mini-mansion. Those kids could have cared less. Don't ever forget the country setting of Beth and Bob's. Look familiar? The green eyed monster named Envy caught the Gosselins on that one.
The company you keep. People magazine 3 weeks ago -- Kate Gosselin, 2 weeks ago - Toddlers and Tiaras dolled up tot, this week -- Casey Anthony. What's to be proud of?
Permanent Name said...
I wonder what kart's kids will be doing at that age and if they will even be speaking to her.
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If they will even speak to her is right. I mean it must be very difficult to be a kid and have to walk on eggshells. One minute Kate seems happy the next minute god forbid you make a mess she's enraged. I remember her freaking out about the knob on a dresser, the kids were dead silent.
You want control issues, Kate's got it. With dressing them all identical, or the six identical, or just the twins, just the boys and just the younger girls. Why do they always match? They wear uniforms in school, they wear matching clothes at home, they have assigned seats, they have to eat their lunch a certain way. I can't think of any others off top of my head but...I do know that if you control your kid down to the last little bit it's not healthy. If her kids have future issues it will be entirely HER fault. Lighten up!
I mean, sorry to finish my thought here.
At some point aren't these kids going to want to rebel?! It's natural for kids as they get older to assert some of their independence no matter how much control Kate things she has now. Just she wait. And if the chance her kids don't rebel...I'm not sure what that'll mean, oh wait I do. It will mean Kate will view herself as successful parent.
I got the impression that Kate's seating chart is for her own 8 kids not every kid on the bus. So a Gosselin is always sitting with a Gosselin and no one else but the siblings switch up daily.
My son has autism and things like picking where to sit on the bus, where to go at recess and lunch are called the "invisible curriculum". Typical kids are good at figuring it out on their own, developmentally disable one not so much. She is taking away a skill that they should learn naturally. Such a shame.
Cheap, because it was a 'couple of months expired". So Kate Said YES she wanted it. This was 3 or 4 weeks ago. No meet up yet for the cereal. The Cereal Soap continues. Now the talk in 'code' when they discuss the possible meet up. LOL
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And of course there were the 80 tweets (really!) that Brownie sent to Kate from the store, asking her if she wants the cereal, describing the cereal, etc. This is the same person who sent Kate yellow tulips and delivered them to Kate's gate when she was divorced. I believe she also met up with her at a public appearance somewhere and gave something homemade to her. She's now asking Kate if she should e-mail her a copy of her blog magazine for the twins.
I wouldn't let her anywhere near a young teen. She hangs on and doesn't let go, moving around from celebrity to celebrity, author to author, trying to "get in" with them, buttering them up, asking for e-mails, DMs, flattering them, being obnoxious. Hence the nickname "Brown Nose." That's one who really causes the red flags to go up for me! Very scary!
# @dowd24 good to see you... Um, not a lot I don't think...Lots of website stuff for you to catch up on.That's what I've been doing.. How r u? about 2 hours ago
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If you consider two minutes worth of reading lots to catch up on.
Hey, where did Take a bullet go? The one was giving us updates on the new stuff on her site? Nothing to report? STILL a lot of unfinished categories? How long has it been since she reported it opened? She says she is 'overwhelmed, pleasantly' by all the emails. questions and stuff she is doing for the site. But she prefers to do twitter. LOL So the next section will be ohh about 5 minutes worth of 'work'?
Not very professional there, Katie Irene.
Somebody help me remember.....
When the sextuplets first got to ride the school bus, there were signs over the seats. I remember seeing one for Aaden and one for Collin, I think. They were certainly larger than 3x5 cards. They looked like something the bus driver put up, but who knows?
I remember all the snarking that went on about Kate planting herself on the bus, making other kids wait while she went in to give her children rules to ride by. She and some other woman kept going back to the Gosselin car to grab things for the kids. And everyone waited......She was just horrid. If my Mom had done that, I would have heard about it all the way to school from the other kids on the bus.
Dear God, let them get on the dang bus and fend for themselves! How pathetic and entitled these children our. Not to offend the sweet kids, it's their MOTHER that has created this mess.
ed Sky At Night said...
And of course there were the 80 tweets (really!) that Brownie sent to Kate from the store, asking her if she wants the cereal, describing the cereal, etc. This is the same person who sent Kate yellow tulips and delivered them to Kate's gate when she was divorced. I believe she also met up with her at a public appearance somewhere and gave something homemade to her. She's now asking Kate if she should e-mail her a copy of her blog magazine for the twins.
I wouldn't let her anywhere near a young teen. She hangs on and doesn't let go, moving around from celebrity to celebrity, author to author, trying to "get in" with them, buttering them up, asking for e-mails, DMs, flattering them, being obnoxious. Hence the nickname "Brown Nose." That's one who really causes the red flags to go up for me! Very scary!
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Amen! This person portrays herself as someone seeking to help young girls/women overcome ... yet she herself desperately (and I repeat desperately) seeks the acknowledgement of those she deems "celebrities." And if that's not bad enough - she thinks Kate Gosselin is a great role model?!! There is so much wrong with that ... I can't even fathom the parents who let her "mentor" their children.
As for Paige ... I feel very uncomfortable both saying anything about her and reading anything she tweets. That is a sad situation/sad home life/sad girl. And I don't know if anyone else has noticed the desperate (and I mean desperate) tweets from someone claiming to be a child - who wants Kate to make her a part of the Gosselin family? Keeps saying PLZ read my email?
The whole thing is just sick. It all needs to stop. Only Kate can stop it. And she won't because she feeds off of the adulation and hopes it will be just enough to get her another television contract.
TLC stinks said...
If you want to take a walk down memory lane, check out the original TLC documentary on the Gosselins. Kate just isn't that same person but the warning signs are there.....all the notes posted everywhere; Jon calls himself a "sheep"; she complains about the house because it's all they can afford and rolls her eyes; Jon leaves for work at 7 but Kate doesn't roll out of bed until 8 a.m. Any of us who have raised babies know darn well they don't sleep until 8 so she just ignored their crying and soiled diapers.
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And the 4 hour afternoon naps and punishment if they got up earlier, and society let here have these children, society owes her for their upbringing.
Yes indeed, there was the selfish control freak for all to see.
The freebies kept rolling in, TLC grants her every wish. She is never satisfied! Why? I can think of a few major factors.
1) She is a bottomless pit of need that will NEVER be satisfied. The more she got, the more she wanted. (Also true in the present tense).
Examples of that are innumerable. (I offer no explanation for this as the available data are insufficient).
2) As the children grew and became less dependent, she became less in ACTUAL control, she became louder, shriller and more OPENLY controlling.
3) Her sense of entitlement had been fed to the point that she believes she is truly entitled. When she says "my kids" substitute "ME."
TLC is not blameless in this debacle either.
Go ahead sheeple, rip me apart. I can back up all of my statements. The internet is a wondrous thing.
Marie said...
I mean, sorry to finish my thought here.
At some point aren't these kids going to want to rebel?! It's natural for kids as they get older to assert some of their independence no matter how much control Kate things she has now. Just she wait. And if the chance her kids don't rebel...I'm not sure what that'll mean, oh wait I do. It will mean Kate will view herself as successful parent.
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Marie - I think we'll see both. These kids are individuals (whether Kate likes it or not.) There are going to be some that toe mommy's line and there are going to be some that try to get as far away from her as they possibly can.
Those that are successful - Kate will take credit for. Those less successful - will be Jon's fault.
Date/Time stamp/Laminate this.
No Regrets said...
Hey, where did Take a bullet go? The one was giving us updates on the new stuff on her site? Nothing to report? STILL a lot of unfinished categories? How long has it been since she reported it opened? She says she is 'overwhelmed, pleasantly' by all the emails. questions and stuff she is doing for the site. But she prefers to do twitter. LOL So the next section will be ohh about 5 minutes worth of 'work'?
Not very professional there, Katie Irene.
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I loved her tweet where she said she was categorizing emails (not verbatim) to post answers on her site! LOL!
Listen Katie!
These sheeple of yours want DIRECT CONTACT WITH YOU ... DAILY!
YOU NEED TO ANSWER THEIR EMAIL PERSONALLY OR THEY ARE GOING TO
A) BE DEPRESSED
B) NOT SLEEP
C) CRY
D) DIE
E) MOVE ONTO GREENER Z LIST CELEBRITY PASTURES
Lumping their email questions all together is a no go at this point Katie. You've created a monster! I'm sure you created it thinking it would save you. If you'd had any sense (or some agent who really cared about you) you'd have realized it's going to consume you ... and any "celebrity" career hopes you ever had.
Hoosier Girl said...
Marie said...
I mean, sorry to finish my thought here.
At some point aren't these kids going to want to rebel?! It's natural for kids as they get older to assert some of their independence no matter how much control Kate things she has now. Just she wait. And if the chance her kids don't rebel...I'm not sure what that'll mean, oh wait I do. It will mean Kate will view herself as successful parent.
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Marie - I think we'll see both. These kids are individuals (whether Kate likes it or not.) There are going to be some that toe mommy's line and there are going to be some that try to get as far away from her as they possibly can.
Those that are successful - Kate will take credit for. Those less successful - will be Jon's fault.
Date/Time stamp/Laminate this.
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You are right. But I can totally see it coming Kate is going to have issues with some of the kids breaking free. I mean Kate already said once she was very over-disciplined as a kid, walled up in her room to practice her violin, that her meals were cooked, her needs were met. At the time it sounded like to me that Kate was not very grateful her parents provided what was necessary. Everything else is just fluff.
She has control issues, anger issues, matchy-matchy issues and so many others it's scary!
Back where I grew up, in the sticks, I rode the bus to and from school as a first grader it took maybe 40 minutes, then I had to walk 3 huge blocks home up hill. I remember feeling exhausted, bored out of my skull and dreading to this everyday so I can sympathize why kids could get antsy I really can.
Rosa Parks hates Kate too said...
kateplusmy8
And,since I no u will ask,2 avoid fights, I made a daily rotating assigned seat chart for school bus on 3X5 cards! Works wonders!
Sep 6
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And can I seriously just ask! Who did Kate "no" would ask?! Not a damn sheeple would have asked that!
Katie needed an "I'm an incredible mommy - See what lengths I go to - It's exhausting to be the single mother of eight" moment.
I don't believe a damn word that comes out of her .... well, twitter!
My SIL lets my niece have a FB account & she's effing 7!!!! SEVEN!! I am totally perplexed by this. My son is 11 & is begging me & my husband & we are so dead set against it. My niece wanted to "friend" me on FB & I turned her down. My SIL messages me, bitching at me. My response? I don't need my niece seeing the things I post. Sometimes I'm not so polite, sometimes I use swears, sometimes I am colorful in the way I talk, there is NO need for a 7 y.o to have a facebook account.
And my SIL lied & said my niece was 14 or whatever the legal age is to set one up. I don't like my SIL anyway, but still. I think it's ridiculous. I know that's not a nice thing to say, but talk about narcissistic. My husband & I monitor our kid closely on the internet. He is "at that age" now where little boys start to get curious. We have parental blocks on every device, including my Nook.
I hope Kate's careful. There's a lot of crap out there; the divorce, stuff about her, stuff she said about Jon, stuff about Jon, & stuff about the kids. She never refuted ANYTHING. I can't believe she lets her kids watch the damn show!
Admin said...
Kate can never think big picture about how all these decisions will play out a long time from now.
PERFECT description on ALL things Kate!! You really hit the nail on the head Admin! :)
Hippie Chick thanks though I'm not the first to say it. It IS a perfect description of Kate, live in the moment, don't think big picture. Eat the entire cake now don't think about the massive stomach ache later.
Can I just say that the screen name "Rosa Parks Hates Kate Too" is one of the funniest I've seen?
For some reason Flight of the Kiwi always used to make me snort my water out my nose too.
Marie said....
At some point aren't these kids going to want to rebel?!
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I can see it happening. It happened to an old friend of mine. She grew up in a very controlled, strict home, ended up dropping out of college for some guy & ended up in rehab.
If kids can't make their own choices then how will they learn how to make the right ones, or the wrong ones? They need to learn. Kids need to...be. Ya know?
My son is 11 & is begging me & my husband & we are so dead set against it. My niece wanted to "friend" me on FB & I turned her down.
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Whatever happened to leading by example? If you don't want your children to have something, then don't have one yourself.
Kids look to their parents whether we like it or not. Facebook is NOT necessary in life.
By that logic parents shouldn't drive cars, go to work, vote, or have sex, because those are not activities appropriate for children. Facebook is something for adults or if they are mature enough young adults just like other activities made for adults, and kids can wait for it just like they wait to vote, drive cars and so on.
This is interesting.
akrose70
GA all. Feeling yucky 2day. Have things 2 do but then a nap. @CJWhodunit @LEIGHSHAHAN1 @MiloandJack @TheAustinMartin
akrose70
@Kateplusmy8 Good afternoon 2 u. Just woke up. Feeling under the weather but I have things 2 do. Mommy's don't get a sick break.
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@akrose70 I know. It's a feeling of despair when all you want is your bed and you gotta get up and do the mom thing!
Driving cars, going to work, voting and having sex are a pretty far cry from using a Social Networking Site.
The things you listed are necessary in life. Facebook is not. JMO
If more parents quit feeding into this need to put your life online, maybe their kids wouldn't do it either. I think it's a fair statement. At least think about it.
I believe in parenting by example. At least I'm not a hypocrite with my son.
Again, respectfully just my opinion.
If my memory is correct, brownie or brown-nose also left a Starbucks gift card for Kate to pick up next time Kate goes through the drive-through window at her local Starbucks.
akrose70 I know. It's a feeling of despair when all you want is your bed and you gotta get up and do the mom thing! 10 minutes ago
Sleeping until 11am with the kids home, she wants to sleep even longer. Wanting to sleep all the time is a sign of depression. Woman to woman I am worried about her, as much as I can't stand her I think she should get help if she's depressed.
It's not necessary to watch an R rated movie either, but we watch them and restrict children's access to it.
Facebook has done so much though for good. There have been a lot of people who have reunified with bio parents or long lost friends or relatives. It's made it a lot easier to keep in touch with familes that are increasinly scattered across the country or world. There was even a suggestion at one point Mark Zuckerburg be nominated for the Nobel Prize.
I think like anything else, you need to be responsibile about it when it comes to your child's access to it.
"I don't know when the poll was done, but they are never going to let him off the hook"
The poll was done a month or so ago. It asked people to name their most hated celebrities. Jon was on there, but so was Kate. The survey didn't involve many people so I don't know how reliable it is.
Mixed messages said...
Whatever happened to leading by example? If you don't want your children to have something, then don't have one yourself.
Kids look to their parents whether we like it or not. Facebook is NOT necessary in life.
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Leading by example is a key component to parenting, but also you teach them as an adult, you do things they can't.
Having a Facebook page is NOT necessary in life, as you said, but along those lines, parents should never have a glass of wine, see an R rated movie, etc.
I don't think all priviledges afforded adults should need to be forsaken while you are raising children.
Sleeping until 11am with the kids home, she wants to sleep even longer. Wanting to sleep all the time is a sign of depression. Woman to woman I am worried about her, as much as I can't stand her I think she should get help if she's depressed.
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Hasn't she been ill? That, coupled with jet lag, and maybe pushing herself to run (in pouring-down rain) could result in this. It could be a sign that something is wrong physically, not only depression. This flu, or whatever is going around right now, really hangs on. You think you're okay, but when you try to do something, you realize that you're just not back to your old self yet. You just want to sleep.
Then, too, when you eat only salads, you're not getting the nutrition your body needs.
I always remember my mom when she would play her oldies in the car and I would complain she would half-jokingly say when you are old enough and buy your own car, you pick the tunes.
Now that I'm there, I see what she means. Certain things are for adults to do what they want to do, and kids will come due eventually just like we all did. (And of course as it goes, I like oldies now too, lol!)
Also I thought leading by example was namely for activities that are wrong. Oh you know like speeding, talking disrespectfully to your husband and kids, wearing skanky outfits, or buying things you cannot afford.
Not for activities that are not necessarily wrong, just not appropriate for kids yet.
I don'tunderstand why Kate can't stay in bed, if she's really sick? Jon has the kids this w/e doesn't he? I have no idea what is so pressing that she has to do,but saying she has to be a mommy is kinda stupid if kids are gone...hmmmmmm
You know, I'm only half way down the page reading the posts, please forgive me if this subject has ended.
I haven't posted anything about the bus issue, because I don't want to call out the children. What I have to say lays strictly on Kate because she has failed to bring up her children properly.
I found it quite interesting that it's only a few weeks in to the school year and there are already accusations being told of issues that involve the kids. We all know that kids will blame any bad behavior on anyone they can, and to tell you the truth, if I were one of Kate's children, I would lie through my teeth about anything that might get Kate's wrath towards me.
Now does this mean the children lied about the name calling, absolutely not. But lets weigh the circumstantial evidence here. Last year we know that two of the children were expelled for bad behavior. Could this be the same issues here. I agree the bus driver has no right to say anything bad to ANY child, but does he have a history of doing this? Have the children behaved, or is this another situation where maybe someone needs to be removed from the situation. We don't know any true facts except those told by Kate, and we have witnessed her explanations. "No, my kids have not been expelled, they've been removed."
Just have to chime in here, I am a former school bus driver. I drove in Westford, MA.
many years ago.
Kate is moving her usual lying lips again. Many school busses have video. Yes, most are in troubled areas.
If a school bus driver was acting in an unprofessional manner the problem would alrady have been addressed had complaints been made.
The bus company would have addressed the very day a complaint wss made. She is just so stupid.
I do not know protocol for PA but I think videois standard now.
Just my opinion. The bus driver probably slammed the door in that bitches faces to get going and she was speechless. After all she is a Stah...........
I had a mouthy Mom climb on my bus one morning to complain that I was four minutes later that morning than the day before and she had a bridge club meeting. I told her to get off my bus and while she was continuing her tirade I slammed the bus door in her face. Left her right there in her 1980's Rich Bitch Clogs.
Yeah she complained to the Westford School system.
They did not care. Krieder is lying.
Children might not hear everything you say, but they are always watching everything that you do. Dr. Phil says "that the most influential person in a child's life is the same sex parent."I am not a huge fan of his, but he's good with behaviors and family dynamics,etc.
That is a really scarey thought for Kate's family, since she has 5 daughters!
I think blogger ate my last post.
Red Sky At Night said... Kate said,
Kate also tweeted:
"its a WOMAN! She's a MOM... She targets all families and is extremely inappropriate and difficult"
September 23, 2011 9:57 PM
HA! Pot meet kettle.
Kate can see this in another person but can't see it in herself?
arol said...
If my memory is correct, brownie or brown-nose also left a Starbucks gift card for Kate to pick up next time Kate goes through the drive-through window at her local Starbucks.
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Was that Brownie? I forgot about that. I remember someone leaving a gift card there, but didn't pay too much attention. I remember her wanting to meet up with Kate at Starbucks, then at some cafe for lunch, then at a mom's convention somewhere and she (or a friend) had tickets.
You give that one less than an inch, and she'll take several miles. Kate may not be the brightest or the most aware of sheeple motives, but I really hope that someone (Steve, maybe) pulls her aside and reads her the riot act when it comes to the dangers of befriending semi-stalkers. They soon turn into full-blown stalkers. They stick like glue, and you need to watch your back if you ignore them. Kate has chickens, but she to make sure the kids don't ask for bunnies (Fatal Attraction).
Hey Jude, I saw where you said the blogger ate your last post. I am not at all computer savvy, but I have had the same problem myself. Especially when I first started. I got to wondering one time how the time gets sorted out. I'm in a time zone two hrs away from most of you, from what I have read. I just wondered what happens when five or six of us click send at the same time, how it works out the time. Just thought maybe that's why some don't go through. Could be wrong, just wondering.
akrose70
GA all. Feeling yucky 2day. Have things 2 do but then a nap. @CJWhodunit @LEIGHSHAHAN1 @MiloandJack @TheAustinMartin
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AAhhhhhh! There's our Austin Martin. aka college student, event planner, ditched by Kate to her manager.
I haven't seen him around on the tweets for a while. I was hoping he saw the light and left Kate in the dust.
Testing. Posting issues!
Administrator said...
I imagine when kids are never allowed to make any decisions for themselves they might be pretty helpless such that they wouldn't know how to pick a seat. Kate is not doing these kids any favors.
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That always annoyed me, how she never lets the kids make their own choices - she would rather choose for them than go through the inconvenience of letting the kids make their own choices.
She needs to treat her kids like individuals, let them make their own choices and ACCEPT those choices.
A perfect example of this is on the tups' 7th birthday and her negative reaction towards the kids' excitement about the frog in the spa and then Aaden drawing that instead of the pool. WHY was that such a big deal to her?
Administrator said... I always remember my mom when she would play her oldies in the car and I would complain she would half-jokingly say when you are old enough and buy your own car, you pick the tunes.
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Testing, testing. I'm having posting issues also.
I looked at TwitIQ (and it's currently above too) for Kate - am I reading this right? Someone wants their magazine autographed and she said to get the address from her self-proclaimed number one fan (won't say the name here). Huh? Can't they direct message her and she can give them the address? Are her tweeties now her minions? This is not her publicist or anything like that, it's some Kate lover who has Kate's picture splashed all over her Twitter page. Why on earth would she direct one fan to get her address from another fan? Oh, who am I talking about? Nothing she does makes sense.
mkbrownlow
@Kateplusmy8 sleep well... just sent u an email :)
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Where's the WOOT WOOT??!! She HAS to announce this for everyone to see! Just send her the darn butt-kissing e-mail and get it over with! Kate will see it. If she doesn't, I'm sure that you will remind her again, and again, and again until that cereal is picked up!
Mommas - would you want your teenage girls "mentored" by someone who is so desperate for attention?
Steve has probably talked to Kate and tried to explain the dangers of befriending semi-stalkers, people on the internet. Steve can explain it for her, but he can't "understand" it for her.
Kate really thinks she knows everything, but she's not really the sharpest crayon in the box.I hope she does listen to him and understands the dangers.
I don't think these twidiots have anything she really wants, just good for her ego, so someone adores her. Kate won't meet anyone personally, unless they're a "stah!"
Well, let's see here.. Kate allowed them to choose their lunch items (Mady likes tomatoes, Cara does not - or vice versa), Hannah got to decide to wear a pair of non-matchy sandals once, and Hannah got to decide to get her hair cut shorter, and
they all got to choose what they wanted for their "gross dinner." Anything else? I'm out.
I have to ask here, probably a bad idea to have thought about it, however:
If Kate obviously views it okay for herself to exchange rather personal tweets/emails with only god knows who...what kind of message does that potentially send to her kids? I mean her twins are pushing that age of email, maybe I could totally be wrong. Now, I don't have kids but I do know what Kate is doing makes no sense. But maybe she follows the rule of, "Do as I say, not as I do?" Anybody?
No mo worryin,
My post came through finally, later. I didn't realize we were on moderation again.I'm not too savvy, either!
Respect said...
I got the impression that Kate's seating chart is for her own 8 kids not every kid on the bus. So a Gosselin is always sitting with a Gosselin and no one else but the siblings switch up daily.
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That is probably true, but if she's assigning seats for her 8 it makes sense that others would be affected in some way too (what if they wanted to sit in a particular seat that Kate had deemed for a Gosselin?).
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Amyf,
Go to Kate's Twitter page, http://twitter.com/kateplusmy8 and you'll see a column of her tweets.
Click on any line/tweet you're curious about. Another column will appear to the right showing you the tweet of the person she's replying to and any follow-up tweets.
To close the right column, either click again on Kate's tweet in the left column or just click on another line/tweet of Kate's you're curious about.
As with all things internet, practice and trial and error will be your best guide.
Kate needs to start taking a good multivitamin, get her thyroid checked and start eating more calories. It is no wonder that she is too tired to get out of bed. Of course, she always was a late sleeper. Jon was the parent who got up early, fed and changed the kids and then brought a cup of coffee to her royal laziness Kate, who was still in bed.
Admin,
Sorry but I disagree with you about Dr. Phil. I think he is a fake and an opportunist. Remember what Jon said about his and Kate's meeting with him? According to Jon, Dr. Phil was only interested in their "brand" not their family. I was also really turned-off by Dr. Phil when Brittney Spears was hospitalized. Dr. Phil seemed to try and assert himself very unprofessionally in the situation by just showing up at Brittney's hospital where she refused to see her. My opinion of the Dr. is akin to mine of Kate's, a fame whore out to exploit others.
I think that the kids tune out a lot of what she says, it's all like 'white noise.' She'll just ask them again in 2 minutes and make them repeat it out loud and in unison!
They get to choose what they hear and if they'll answer.They get to choose how they feel when they're getting yelled at.They get to cry alone in their bedrooms,cause that's what Mommy does....
Kate, you're a liar; you cry to the nannies, the tlc crew, Steve and the whole damn world ,everytime you're on tv. Bitch, Boom, Bye!
I read that somewhere and it sounds great....
Beth,
ITA with everything you said.She also got in those 4 hr. naps in before Jon came home from work. Then, it was his turn again to do all the work.
I don't think that an adult using Facebook or exchanging tweets with only god knows who is not "leading by example" or saying "do as I say and not as I do.". Facebook and Twitter are both fine when used responsibly, but there are things adults say on Facebook that I don't want my children to see, and most children don't have enough awareness to tweet with strangers safely. (And I know that Kate doesn't either, but let's assume that she is a normal 36 year old and that her kids are not aware of the details of her tweets.).
A better comparison would be to say that it is fine for kids to play Club Penguin and Facebook is the grown up version. There is nothing wrong with either; it's just that they are designed for different ages. Just like wine vs milk, R vs G, etc. No need to say an adult cant Facebook without being a hypocrite of a parent.
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@rumseyfam4 I know how you feel re cooking.. I like to organize, not clean so much!
What a gawd awful life. Kate likes to organize, not DO. She organized the volunteers as much as humanely possible with notes and lists taped everywhere when the kids were little. She had post-its and index cards and lists taped everywhere (including inside the fridge) even after they moved to the McMansion. She has to-do lists for every day for everything for herself and the kids. She makes lists instead of 'doing'. She tweeted that she is "organizing" e-mail tweets to answer together for her blog when what her fans want is a direct reply! What did she enjoy about the RV trip? Organizing/masterminding. She has her kids so controlled and 'organized' that they can't even sit where they want on the danged school bus.
Can you imagine what life in that household must be like? I can and it's scary.
cathy518,
That's ok, not too many do agree with me.I'm not sure if Jon and Kate went to Dr. Phil for marriage therapy- Kate probably wanted him to fix Jon.
He gave up his private practice when he got his own show, I think. He is still good at some things, like identifying behaviors and family dynamics.I don't like how he turned all Hollywood, either.He was so different when he was on Oprah, didn't even swear.
I remember hearing that Brittney's Dad asked him to go and see her, but that's just what we were told on tv, too.So, who knows the real story. I do disagree with putting him in Kate's category, though. She's in her own category,that witch!
You know why I stopped watching him regularly? He said one day that he didn't really want a 2nd child. His wife had to promise she wouldn't get fat and let herself go! I do watch occasionally,though.
Open Letter To Mario said...
I watched that new show of his called H8Rs this past week. Then he was on The Talk the next day to promote that show. Of course everybody got on the subject of what a hater is. This is where my love for Mario went in the gutter. He said that haters are just miserable people who see in others what they hate about themselves. He said haters are cowards. And he said haters have no reason to hate someone they don't know. He sounded like a total sheeple.
I think the term hater is used too often and too broadly. It's used to dismiss any opinion, legit or not, if it's something disagreed with. Much like the Wizard of Oz's "don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain". It's now "don't pay attention, they're just a hater".
I also think the label of 'Sheeple' is also used unfairly. Anyone who has anything nice to say about Kate becomes a sheeple. I don't like Kate but it is possible to find some positive things to say about her and not have drunk the koolaid. (I tried to think of an example but couldn't come up with one that was more recent then the first season of JK+8. Back then she was still mostly human and had some likable qualities. Now, not so much.)
As for the bus seating, Kate's chart likely applies to her children only and who they are to sit with. She mentioned rotations so I'm guessing it's along the lines of "Monday Collin sits with Cara", "Tuesday Cara sits with Leah" and so on. We do the same type of seat rotation in our vehicle so each child gets a turn sitting in the 'best' seat.
What's amusing about the seating chart is it goes against Kate's belief that children should work out their own conflicts. They can verbally and physically go at each other and she expects them to police themselves, but when it comes to where they sit only she can decide? It must be confusing to be her child with so many contradictions.
Wouldn't it be a fun game to switch all of Kate's little notes around?
Put "do not eat!" on the soap.
Put "clean this 3x a day!" on the garbage can.
Put "this goes away before school!" on her chest.
I think I figured it out, maybe. You can disagree.
Maybe, Kate likes to control her kids when it suits her and only when it suits her or when she thinks it will make her look like a "good mom." The rest of the time Kate can't be bothered with helping her kids because she only wants them to be independent when she things it makes her again look like a, "good mom."
L'il Imp,
That would be funny, the crew probably did! I don't know if Kate ever read them after, she just 'MASTERMINDED' them!
I would write 'please don't eat' on all her casserole leftovers.....
hey jude said...
Beth,
ITA with everything you said.She also got in those 4 hr. naps in before Jon came home from work. Then, it was his turn again to do all the work.
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Yep. She's a piece of work.
I know that most bus DRIVERS assign seats to students. They usually do this after a couple of days of school. They will see how the kids act for a couple days- then will assign seats. They do this for a number of reasons- BEHAVIOR- that can mean anything from sitting a child toward the front because they misbehave - or because the have others picking on them and can keep an eye on them. - SAFETY- same reasons as behavior- plus more such as knowing in an instant who is on the bus or missing by ther chart. Also, you can see who may damage a seat, leave an item. etc. when you know whose seat it is.
I would NEVER want to be a bus driver. Too much responsibility! My hat is off to them!
I can't imagine a driver trying to figure in all of the above with a family of eight kids and a mother who is impossible to please.
You know, after awhile all those notes would start to look like pictures on the wall. You know they're there, but you really don't notice them.
Who stops to read notes all over the place? Especially when the little ones were in Kindergarten? They couldn't read, could they?
Yep, Kate is on both ends of sad parenting. She
micromanages when she's feeling superior (I agree with you, Marie) and drops the ball when she's feeling apathetic.
Re the post about children and parents on Facebook, and leading by example and hypocrisy - it has been a pet peeve of mine for awhile when people say to not live by "Do as I say, not as I do"- well, as ADMIN and others have pointed out, children are not adults. Children cannot drink, cannot vote, cannot join the military or drive a car...so parents shouldn't either? What kind of logic is that? Of course it's do as I say, not as I do- because I am an adult and I know better. I raised mu child that way and she doesnt have any issues with it. She knows her privileges will come in time. And it is not hypocritical. It is teaching responsible behavior.
cathy518 said...Remember what Jon said about his and Kate's meeting with him? According to Jon, Dr. Phil was only interested in their "brand" not their family.
hey jude said...I'm not sure if Jon and Kate went to Dr. Phil for marriage therapy- Kate probably wanted him to fix Jon.
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This is a summary of Kate's account about the Dr. Phil meeting, from her testimony during the Sylvia Lafair hearing:
[Gosselin] also said the reason for the meeting in California was not for counseling but for advocacy for Jon. Gosselin said she had her own advocate, Phil McGraw and his wife, Robin, meeting the couple in California to discuss the best way to handle a divorce involving children while in the public eye.
Gosselin said she originally contacted Lafair after she was recommended by another person to help with Jon's drastic behavioral changes. Kate said she was obtaining help from the McGraws to deal with how Jon's "issues" affected her.
http://standardspeaker.com/news/reality-tv-star-in-freeland-for-hearing-1.1145370#axzz1Yw8XmtOl
This is a summary of Jon's account regarding the Dr. Phil meeting, from his ABC Primetime interview:
Gosselin said that Kate did agree to attend therapy with Dr. Phil, urging Gosselin to fly to California to meet with the celebrity therapist before a scheduled trip to Utah. But according to Gosselin, their session was more about fixing the image of the show than fixing their marriage.
"We talked about the brand and ... and corporate things and making the brand work," he told Cuomo. "I felt it was weird. I was like, 'why am I here? I could be snow-boarding.' I mean, it wasn't helping."
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/jon-gosselin-marriage-kate-exclusive-interview/story?id=8491733&page=2
hey jude said...
cathy518,
That's ok, not too many do agree with me.I'm not sure if Jon and Kate went to Dr. Phil for marriage therapy- Kate probably wanted him to fix Jon.
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That's exactly what happened. Jon stated in the interview,(not sure exactly which station)that he went to talk to Dr. Phil and Kate, but they both were more concerned with saving the brand of jk8, so he wouldn't appear.
I'll try to find the link and post it.
Thanks to several people for trying to educate me about Twitter. I've got all the suggestions written down and will try them. I'll probably end up with more questions - but thanks again.
And one more question - about the following:
akrose70
GA all. Feeling yucky 2day. Have things 2 do but then a nap. @CJWhodunit @LEIGHSHAHAN1 @MiloandJack @TheAustinMartin
OK, so is this tweet FROM akrose70 TO all the @s? Is that how you read it? But they don't all have a name on the top or @s at the end, do they? And what does this have to do with Kate?
Sorry I'm such a dimwit. ;-)
Hoosier Girl said...
Those that are successful - Kate will take credit for. Those less successful - will be Jon's fault.
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I agree with you, but Kate's definition of 'successful' will change daily to put HERSELF in the best light.
One kid living in a mansion driving a Porsche amd dripping in jewelry because they run a drug ring = successful by Kate standards; until they do prison time, then they are a failure and it's all Jon's fault.
Another kid working at the zoo feeding elephants for love and joy of animals will be a mediocre failure in Kate's eyes, unmotivated and lazy 'like Jon'; until that kid gets some kind of recognition, grant funding or something, then they will be a 'success' because Kate 'taught them hard work'.
sselin Gossip said...
cathy518 said...Remember what Jon said about his and Kate's meeting with him? According to Jon, Dr. Phil was only interested in their "brand" not their family
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Oop's, looks like ya got there before me again. Sorry
A roundup comment of sorts:
re: bus seating chart: She may be "only" making it for her kids, but by the very nature of a bus and the fact that other children are on it, her seating chart virtually has to effect children besides the G8.
re: organizing: What she calls organizing, I think the rest of the world calls controlling. We have tons of examples of her NOT being organized (by the actual definition) and if she really was organized, TLC would not have had to have an entire episode with professional organizers.
Organize: to systematize: to organize the files of an office.
Control: to exercise restraint or direction over; dominate; command.
Which one of those sounds like what Kate does more of?
IMO, her lists and post-its are not so much for organizational purposes (and this is coming from someone that is a list maker. My husband only half-jokingly says I make lists of my lists), but just another form of control.
Even the army doesn't tell you what order to eat your food in.
re: Facebook: I'm not sure it does kids any favors to pretend like those things do not exist and/or there is something wrong with adults using them. I agree with Admin and others that kids need to learn that there are some things that are ok for adults and not ok for children. That as they get older they will get more "perks."
Life is not always fair. We don't always get what we want. We don't always get to do everything we want to do. Kids need to learn this and being told NO once in a while will not kill a child. In fact, it's good for them.
When they go out in the real world, they will be told no a lot, by people that don't really care about them. It's better for them to learn from their parents that it's ok and life isn't always fair and sometimes we don't get to do what we want etc.
I'm somewhat baffled by adults who stop living once they have children and think this is somehow a benefit to their children.
For whoever asked about "taking a bullet," I'm not sure what happened to that poster, but I have Kate's blog in my reader (so as not to give her website hits) and there have been no updates to her site since the 22nd when she did "My first fitness blog"
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Also I thought leading by example was namely for activities that are wrong. Oh you know like speeding, talking disrespectfully to your husband and kids, wearing skanky outfits, or buying things you cannot afford.
Not for activities that are not necessarily wrong, just not appropriate for kids yet.
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Really, seeing a parent on Facebook is not like your kids watching you smoke crack! And what about teaching kids that they have to wait? That's a great lesson. If you think your not social networking will lead to your child not doing it, get a clue.
I'm just catching up with the posts here, but it seems like Kate has been stirring up shit again with the tweets about the bus driver calling one of her kids a name? Way to handle it like and adult. How about going to the school and have the problem mediated? Typical Kate, disposing of people. What a sense of entitlement those G8 will do and probably do have already.
Gosselin gossip,
Thanks for the link re: counselling.I'm beginning to think Kate has nothing to do with the kids unless the cameras are filming. Poor little Gosselin kids, what a sad, pathetic life they must have now.Hope I am wrong.....
What Dwindle said, about K8's definition of "successful" -- absolutely right!
It should be amusing snarking, but it's actually sad reality.
New post up!
Different day, same stuff. Kate is still having people who want to send things for autograph to contact her FAN for the address! It just boggles my mind. She's obviously not afraid of her address being out - why doesn't she just give it herself? I think of those cute little minions on Despicable Me. She's the lead character! Oh, I should change my name to Despicable Me, haha.
New post up!
amyf said...
And one more question - about the following:
akrose70
GA all. Feeling yucky 2day. Have things 2 do but then a nap. @CJWhodunit @LEIGHSHAHAN1 @MiloandJack @TheAustinMartin
OK, so is this tweet FROM akrose70 TO all the @s? Is that how you read it? But they don't all have a name on the top or @s at the end, do they? And what does this have to do with Kate?
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The tweet you posted was sent by Akrose70 to Kate. It appears on Kate's Twitter page when you click on the tweet below. You'll see that Akrose sent her tweet to Kate first and then Kate replied to her with this one:
Kateplusmy8
@akrose70 I know. It's a feeling of despair when all you want is your bed and you gotta get up and do the mom thing!
My recommendation for you to learn to read Kate's tweets is to:
1. Go to Kate's twitter page.
2. When you see @_____(someone's name) at the beginning of a tweet, it means she's replying to that person.
3. Click on any tweet on her page so the column to the right opens to show you the specific tweet she's replying to.
4. When you see @______(a name) somewhere in a twitter message it means she's referring to that person
5. A tweet with no name in the message means that Kate sent the message and didn't address it to anyone in particular
6. Click, read, follow links, come back and repeat, follow conversations with other people if you like. The more often you read and click at Twitter the more sense it'll make.
Kate you go and cry in a room alone wait.....I bet you do that all ready since NO ONE want you for a JOB or as a Girlfriend.
Dry your tears with the money you made off pimping thoes poor 8 kids
Sick woman
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