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Lies again! Old navy pics were taken on SUNDAY before fam photo shoot.stressed 2b styling Fam of 9 1hr before pics?Yes! Good try INF daily!
Regardless when the photos were taken, it's sad to see Kate take stress out on her children, If her obligations when it comes to staying relevant, including professional photo shoots, are too stressful for her to handle, then don't do them.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 564 Newer› Newest»I thought she was in church all morning on Sunday? Almost dropped her phone in an open cup of coffee?
So let's see: She all all all alone got 8 kids and herself to church, went home, changed into really casual clothes to go shopping with the twins, then back home to 'style' 9 people and have a photo sessions. Really poor masterminding and organizing there, Ms Shopping Kart. If that is true, you are a huge ass; why not do shopping with your twins on any of the days PRIOR to the photo session? Why stress your widdle self out so by trying to squeeze it in between church (wink) and your afternoon plans?
AND BECAUSE YOU ARE 'STRESSED' IT IS OK TO TALK TO YOUR CHILDREN LIKE CRAP?? It's not! That is your excuse for life, aint it? 8 kids 8 kids 8 kids and you are so entitled to every nasty behavior and attitude.
ATTN KATIE: We are so sick and tired of you BRAGGING about how miserable your children make you! And expecting adoration and money for it.
Why would she be so stressed about a "family photo"? And why would she have to "style" everyone an hour before? Doesn't sound too organized there Kate!!
Don't forget, Dwindle, that she had time to make lunch and the girls had time to ride their bikes (according to her own tweets) before the mad dash to stage the photos. Really doesn't add up, does it?
The question is, why lie? What does she gain by lying? It has been shown, over and over again, that when she lies publicly, people will bend over backward to prove she is lying. You'd think she would have learned this by now. Since she obviously can't control herself, what she really needs to do is just SHUT UP and lay low for a while. I'm surprised that her manager and/or her "road manager" haven't been able to take her in hand by now. I think the damage she is doing to her reputation--which was pretty much in tatters to begin with--is substantial.
Carrying over the discussion but if Kate picked up just the twins from school wouldn't that have been much earlier in the day? That makes sense to me. Plus the shadows are long, which suggests mid-afternoon. It makes sense to me if she picked them up from school and let the other kids get on the bus and go home to the nanny.
It is remotely possible the exif could have been edited but I don't know why they would bother.
How much "styling" did it take for the boys? Put on matching outfits, wash your faces, run a comb through your hair. I'm sorry to say it, but it does not look to me like Mady and Cara were "styled" at all. They look clean and neat, but
they are old and capable enough to dress themselves and brush their own hair. So that leaves 3 little girls. Again, put on your matching outfits, comb your hair. Leah, let's put the styling brush to your hair in the back to keep that cute undercurl. And again, I'm sorry, but Hannah doesn't look like she's seen a brush all day.
So, we're left with styling Kate. Yeah, I can see her getting stressed over that. An hour might not be long enough.
It makes sense to me if she picked them up from school and let the other kids get on the bus and go home to the nanny.
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Why no school uniforms?
It's simple enough, they could have changed at home. If she picked them up at school there are still a good few hours left of sunshine to both change and go shopping. I wouldn't spend more time than I had to in Old Navy with grumpy kids anyway.
Anonymous I totally agree with you, why all the stress??? The kids don't wear makeup, they didn't get their hair done, the kids outfits are simple enough. The set wasn't that complicated, a few hay bales, some orange flowers. All Kate had to do was sit there and get her hair and makeup done and then show up. She can't even begin to understand how stressful other real jobs are. She does not have it tough, gimme a break.
If she went back home to "style 9" before the 'shoot', she must have had her hair 'done' as well. In the Old Navy photos her hair is tied back, whereas in the Fall family pictures her hair looks to have been professionaly done.
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Maybe she kept them all home on Monday to do the photo shoot? Or else she was lying about all the stuff they did on Sunday. Maybe that stuff that stuff was just in her head.
The fact remains the EXIF doesn't lie. I simply don't believe this INF photographer is spending all his time manipulating his EXIF data. Why would he ever in a million years think that some sleuth would look at that? He wouldn't BOTHER. I'm betting most people don't even know about EXIF until now, why would you?
The reason Kate lied and said it was Sunday is because she wanted a "good reason" in her own delusional stupid brain to justify her anger. The photo shoot was something she knew we all knew about because she knew the pics leaked. So she thought, bingo, they'll understand why I was upset because of the photoshoot! When the truth was she was upset over some other even stupider thing YESTERDAY. She thought it was a perfect lie, until it wasn't.
Too bad I don't believe a word she said.
Oh, well...
Thank you! I forgot about the bike riding after lunch. It's not possible, not even if she had a nanny-per-child, the time doesnt add up.
And you know it, Kate. So you L I E D about church, or bike riding, or shopping or something here. You just forgot. Again. Like you would allow any of your children outside riding bikes when they were supposed to be getting 'styled' to be in front of cameras for a professional shoot. Riiiight.
I think she lies because it is always easier than the truth. In her mind. If the results of the lie are bad, it's not her fault because you are holding her accountable for something that never really happened. haha on you. It wasn't really true, this thing you are upset about. However, if she tells the truth and THAT true event or action or thought is not acceptable, her mind has no where to go with that, no way to justify it, no way out of accountability.
I am sure I am not explaining it right and it is not making any sense to you gentle readers. However, in her mind, she is not accountable for the reality if it is clouded with her lies, because YOU have it all wrong now and that is not her fault.
Example: a 16 year old is going to go to a movie rated R. Parent asks which movie are ya sneeking into and the teen lies and names another rated R movie instead of the real one. If parent gets angry or annoyed with/ and forbids the lie-movie, the liar is not accountable because parent had the wrong movie anyway. There was no judgement of the teen's true movie-choice. If parent allows the trip to see the lie-movie, then teen has it made because parent gave permission to crash R rated movie. It's a win/win for the liar.
If teen has told the real movie, and parent had objected, there is no where to go with that, your movie selection has been judged and condemned, likely you feel pretty stupid and you are cant get out of that feeling.
A lie is always better than the truth to the liar, because there are less risks, less accountability internally.
I couldnt comment on the way she was raised, but she has proudly shown us that she is raising her children to be liars. Nothing they ever say or do or think or feel is correct or good enough for their mother. She laughs at them, calls them names and ridicules them on television. To use the slang: Kate calls her kids out, one by one by their names. So it is possible that some of the kids are learing it is better to show only fake feelings actions and intentions, rather than to have their true internal spirit constantly humiliated.
Regarding the lies - I don't like to bring up the Casey Anthony case (might be considered off-topic) but I can't help thinking about that liar when discussing THIS particular liar.
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I guess she could produce the receipt from Old Navy because the date and time on that would be accurate….unless she spilled coffee on it and obliterated that information by mistake (snark).
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@Chablis4u @EmeraldCityJazz @Kateplusmy8 How do U know which dir Kate was walking?Those pics were not shot after 4pm.BigFan said it's dark@5
I don't know what kind of dark glasses BIGFAN is wearing, but it is not dark at 5 p.m., and I'm right around the corner from her. It starts to get dark around 5:45, but it's not totally dark until after 6:30. Yet, those photos do look like they were taken mid-afternoon, not after 5 p.m., which would have put them in that time frame if those photos were taken after they got home from school.
My belief is that the Old Navy photos WERE taken on Sunday. It was a gorgeous fall day here and if you look at the shadows, they mark that the sun is in the West so that it would be around 3pm. Enough time to go to church, have lunch, leave the younger kids with the nanny, run to Old Navy at 2pm to pick out clothing and back home before dusk.
The photoshoot looks like it was done in their yard (the white fence is the same as their white plastic crap fence in their yard) and the pictures seem like they were taken late in the afternoon.
In any case, Kate shouldn't be yelling at her kids in public especially if she's stressed. If it's that much of a bother and an issue, she should have postponed this, or better yet, PLANNED TO BUY CLOTHING FOR THE PHOTOSHOOT EARLIER IN THE WEEK. I mean she says she's the "mastermind" and the "organizer".
I can't believe I'm defending Kate, I guess it's time for me to head to bed now.
If she picked them up at school there are still a good few hours left of sunshine to both change and go shopping. I wouldn't spend more time than I had to in Old Navy with grumpy kids anyway.
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I think that you are forgetting that it's an hour drive from school to home, and in traffic at that time of the day, it may be longer. That would put them at home at 4:30. Change clothing, go shopping, and no, there are not hours left of sunshine, since it starts getting dark around 5:45.
Oh, and I wanted to add, on Wednesday it was raining nearly all day long. NO WAY would those kids be out and about in shorts and the parking lot looking so dry.
Although I want to stress the issue here for me is more the way Kate is yelling at her kids, we have enough lies to not even need this one, I do believe that if you think Kate isn't lying, then you must believe that INF manipulated their EXIF data. The motive to change the EXIF data (um no motive) is far outweighed in my mind by the motive for Kate to lie (huge obvious motive: to justify yelling at her kids by the "stress" of a photo shoot). Either Kate is lying or the EXIF was manipulated, it must be one or the other. But you can't believe that Kate is telling the truth and that the EXIF wasn't manipulated, if that makes sense.
And, it would be nuts to still be shopping this late in the day. Or the photographer would go nuts. Lighting is everything to a photographer. While "magic hour" late in the day is a great time to take photos, the photographer is going to want everything all set to go far before then. Kate's hair and makeup isn't even done (hours) the kids aren't dressed and their hair is totally different in the photos, we're looking at AT LEAST two solid hours of prep before they're ready to shoot minimum. It really doesn't add up.
I can't believe I'm defending Kate, I guess it's time for me to head to bed now.
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Brick - I guess I don't want to admit it, but I'm thinking that she is not lying, regardless of what the time stamp says, although that one is hard to refute. If they get home at 4:30, and it's already getting late, why would they change clothing? They still have to drive to the store, which puts them in Old Navy at 5 p.m. or later. Traffic is nasty at that time. Say a half hour in the store (shopping, paying). That makes it 5:30 to 5:45 for the photos. Nope. Those photos were taken earlier in the day.
If Kate were really just chatting with the girls, you would think they would look at her with some kind of recognition of it. They look deflated here. Tired, unhappy, just....deflated. This has no look of a friendly chat. It looks like a lecture to me. Kate's yapping, kids are zoning out.
I can hear it now: Kate is telling the kids that the p-people will always be around because the Gosselins are famous. They must get used to it because they will become even more famous. The girls are thinking "what could be worse?" And Kate is giving them a pep talk about "you get what you get and you don't get upset." Fame brings cameras. It's life, kids. It's because we're famous that we got these Old Navy gift cards to redeem on what I want you to wear.
Or something close, anyway. Oh, Kate. Photo shoots are not what stress you. Getting up in the morning is all the stress you can handle.
When I checked the weather for Reading it didn't say rain. It said 62, pretty much the same as it was Sunday.
The EXIF data really just doesn't lie to me. I have met hundreds of photographers, I have never met a photographer in my life who would LIE about his EXIF data, they are usually obsessive compulsive and
It just doesn't make sense to me INF would manipulate their data, it just doesn't. If they do, they have extremely unethical photographers working for them. If that's the case, so be it.
And my understanding was the kids had an assembly Wednesday afternoon, maybe Kate pulled them out early, who knows.
I don't care if she's lying at the end of the day we already knows she lies and she missed the point again, nothing justifies constantly taking your stress out on your kids.
Although I want to stress the issue here for me is more the way Kate is yelling at her kids, we have enough lies to not even need this one, I do believe that if you think Kate isn't lying, then you must believe that INF manipulated their EXIF data.
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I don't understand the time stamp, either, and I don't see how they could have had time to do all of that on Sunday, but I also don't think that the photos were taken yesterday, given the time frame involved. Not only that, but yesterday was cloudy, raining, drizzling late in the day. The photos show a clear day, with no wet pavement and no rain. It was a miserable, chilly day, with a constant drizzle yesterday afternoon throughout the evening,and yet Cara is wearing shorts and no rain jacket, and Mady is wearing a sleeveless top.
Let's assume INF has done the extremely unethical thing and manipulated their EXIF data.
The kids didn't even have school last Friday. Kate had two whole days to buy outfits for them. Does it really make sense to buy outfits on the same day as the shoot and stress yourself out? Plus you can't even wash them and you're not supposed to wear most clothing without washing it first because of the chemicals. Or is she one of those who buys outfits for a photoshoot then returns them the next day, I knew one of those moms once.
She creates her own stress by her own bad planning and organizing. She is not organized at all as much as she thinks she is. And her kids suffer because when she's stressed she snaps at them.
Admin, it was in the upper 50's lower 60's but you have to believe me because it was raining on Wednesday - all day. I live 20 minutes from Reading, PA. It was wet, icky and raining. Those pictures were NOT taken on Wednesday. There is NO way on God's green earth that the parking lot was that dry.
The pics are sad. Poor Cara ONCE AGAIN looks like she is so sick and tired of constantly hearing all the things that are wrong with her.
We will pull these pics back up for ya, Kate, in 8 years when your daughter is the subject of your newest pity-Katie-tour. The constant way you speak to this young lady is the reason why - never mind.
All right I'll take your word for it it was pouring rain all day even though the weather archive I looked at didn't say rain.
I shake my head why on God's green earth INF would spend their time screwing around with their time stamps, that makes as little sense to me as Kate cramming in a million things on a photoshoot day. But I don't care if this photo was taken on the day Jesus was born, I hate the way Kate is yelling at her twins and INF got the date wrong is no excuse for how she treats those kids.
Does anyone else think Kate SETS HERSELF UP? Cramming a coffee run, church, Old Navy, hair/make-up and a photoshoot all in the same day? Not to mention getting ready for school the next day. I feel like she gets off on being stressed and likes to set herself up.
Falling like a brick said...
Admin, it was in the upper 50's lower 60's but you have to believe me because it was raining on Wednesday - all day. I live 20 minutes from Reading, PA.
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Thanks for that confirmation, Brick. I was in that area, and I was trying to think what time I parked in the event parking lot, and it was 5:30 or so. I had the wipers on for the whole trip, and I had to park some distance away. My jacket was wet when I got inside the venue, and the parking lot was wet. In fact, I remember having to dodge some puddles when I got out of the car. It was a nasty day, and late yesterday and evening was even worse.
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Does anyone else think Kate SETS HERSELF UP? Cramming a coffee run, church, Old Navy, hair/make-up and a photoshoot all in the same day? Not to mention getting ready for school the next day. I feel like she gets off on being stressed and likes to set herself up.
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She does it on purpose. If she didn't cram so much into one day then she couldn't claim her poor-me I'm a single mother of 8 I do all by myself crap. An experienced mother myself, I have enough knowledge to know you try and space your time and activities out, duh.
But if she didn't set herself up like she does she wouldn't have anything, or near as much to WHINE about. Remember, it's all about how stressed she is, never her kids, it's always about her. Her needs, her stress, her this and that.
Almost like a high with an addict, if Kate doesn't get to whine about something she doesn't feel happy I guess.
I've taken my children to get family photographs over the years for Christmas usually and I don't recall ever yelling because I was stressed out. If anything I only ever told one or two to sit still and the ever famous, "don't touch."
It's all in how you approach doing a family activity. If you start off with, "I'm stressed, I'm stressed I have this and this to do," sorry honey you're going to set yourself up to feel stressed. Whereas if you start the day with, "Okay, I have this to do and that and we're doing it," in a calm fashion chances are you won't be as stressed and hair raised about it.
Kate cannot be calm because otherwise people wouldn't pity her poor me act.
Has anyone checked the EXIF on the photo shoot pics for comparison?
Kate tweeted that there were P/T conferences so maybe that explains why they were shopping @ Old Navy in the middle of the day.
I also don't much care what day it was, what time it was, what else they were doing that day.
What I care about is those two girls, looking like they are sad in these pictures just the way they look sad in so many pictures. ALL these photos of them looking like that have to be telling some kind of story. Even "angst-ishy" kids look happy at least some of the time.
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This is why I hate Kate so much. The constant LYING! The way those lies just fly right out so effortlessly.
If she had a photoshoot in 1 hr, as she claimed, then why is her hair and make-up still a mess in these photos? Hair and make-up would take her no less than 2 hours to get done.
These pics were taken and hour before the photo shoot my asstronaut.
Interesting. Thanks for that reminder. Around here, they do Parent-Teacher conferences in the evening, beginning right after school for parents who don't work outside the home. They run until about 8:00, with a few breaks for the teachers. They take several days to accommodate about 20-24 parents and even come in on a Sat.
if the parent works 3rd shift. Nobody gets out of school early on those days. Maybe the twins' school does it differently.
Maybe they didn't go to school at all that day. She takes them out of school for anything and at any time.
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The 'time created' on the EXIF says 00:00:00+00:00
How are you reading the time on that Admin?? To me, that reads as midnight, so I am not sure where you are getting an actual time that the pictures were taken. (obviously there were not taken at midnight!) The date says 2011/10/19, but I can't see anywhere where there is any reference to an actual time. What am I missing??
We don't know the time, looks like the pap didn't have the time set on his camera which accounts for the 00:00.
We can only speculate on the time. I've just never seen long shadows like that at high noon after church. I think most people are in agreement regardless what day it was, it was sometime in the afternoon.
Your'e children are miserable and it's your fault, Kate. Get help.
"Nobody gets out of school early on those days. Maybe the twins' school does it differently."
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There is one designated day for conferences, which was last week. However, it is not mandatory that conferences are held on that day. They may be held any time during that week, or after, during school day, or in the evening - whatever works for the teachers, and the school is very flexible when a parent has more than one child there. In fact, teachers may even agree to phone conferences.
However, it is on the official conference day (last Friday) that there is no school for students. Kate tweeted on the 19th that she did the conferences, but the twins would still have been required to be in school that day. But if she finished early with the conferences, it is totally possible that she took everyone home early that day and the Old Navy photos were taken then. This would account for the time of the photos as reported by Preesi, but it would not explain the lack of rain/drizzle on the photo, and it was a cloudy day with rain and showers during the day. Those kids were not dressed for the weather if those photos were taken yesterday.
Where's Monk when you need him?
Here's a monkey wrench thrown into the equation. Cara is wearing black shorts, which is part of the school uniform, so she could have just changed her shirt on Wednesday when she got home on Wednesday. Mady is carrying a sweatshirt, which would explain that she was dressed for cooler weather on Wednesday. But where's the rain and wet parking lot?
I know this might prompt the question - why not just ask if the kids left school early on Wednesday? Number 1 - it's not my business to ask, although it would be easy to find out; and 2 - I wouldn't post it anyway because that would be personal info about the twins and their school schedule.
So - were the Old Navy pictures taken on Sunday, as Kate tweeted; or were they taken on Wednesday, as evidenced by the date on the photos?
Ah, sweet mystery of life!
Whoa, just stumbled upon "Dance Moms" on Lifetime about kids on a dance team. My God this must be one of the sickest reality shows yet.
Yea for the Mommy who told off the dance teacher: "They go to school eight hours a day and then dance twelve hours a day! I'm not going to have my kid have a nervous breakdown because you want to be number one!"
And she said her kids are just mediocre and she likes it that way. I LOVE IT, can she come post over here? A Mom who realizes mediocre is best for her kids! Awesome.
For all that Kate claims the paps and press mess up you would think she could have a sizable side income just suing them! If they lie as much as she claims why not teach them a lesson?
Kate's excuse or justification for yelling at her kids because she is stressed is similar to some abusers who emotionally or physically abuse family members because they too take out their stress or emotions on others. This isn't the first time either. Whenever Kate acts badly, she blames it on stress or the situation. She's done this many times on their reality show.
This is not okay. Her behavior and stress indicates she isn't really in control of things. An organized woman would plan ahead to avoid creating a stressful situation for herself and others. I would let it go if this was a rare occurrence, but this is normal for Kate.
Those pics look to me to be earlier in the day and pretty sunny and warm. I checked Preesi's site and saw the EXIF info she has. Then I went to another site to check EXIF info and I checked it for two of the photos. Both of them have photo info saying it was October 19th. That's in a little paragraph about the photo. BUT, under date and time stamp, it says 10/20 at 11:18 and 11:20 am. That seems to maybe be date and the time INF uploaded the photos to their site.
Here's some of the info for one of the photos:
ImageDescription : EXCLUSIVE TO INF. ALL-ROUNDER. DOUBLE SPACE RATES APPLY IN U.K. October 19, 2011: Kate Gosselin takes her twin daughters, Mady Gosselin and Cara Gosselin, shopping at Old Navy in Reading, Pennsylvania today. Kate was seen yelling as they left the store, leaving the girls looking quite upset. Mandatory Credit: CWPA/INFphoto.com Ref.: infuspa-10|sp|EXCLUSIVE TO INF. ALL-ROUNDER. DOUBLE SPACE RATES APPLY IN U.K.
Orientation : 1
SamplesPerPixel : 3
XResolution : 720000/10000
YResolution : 720000/10000
ResolutionUnit : 2
Software : Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows
DateTime : 2011:10:20 11:18:42
Artist : infuspa-10
Copyright : Contact: Insight News & Features, Inc.
Exif_IFD_Pointer : 732
I think I'll check some of the photos from the fall photo shoot.
For the fall phto shot pics from Sunday, I got thos:
Orientation : 1
XResolution : 720000/10000
YResolution : 720000/10000
ResolutionUnit : 2
Software : Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows
DateTime : 2011:10:19 14:14:58
Exif_IFD_Pointer : 164
Looks like 10/19 at 2:15 pm - which is the date and time INF put them on their site.
Yikes, holy typos! The one time I don't preview what I typed. Scratch this mess:
"For the fall phto shot pics from Sunday, I got thos:"
That should have said - "For the fall photo shoot pics from Sunday, I got this:"
Sorry! My contact lenses are sticking to my eyeballs....time for bed!
Forgot one more thing - I haven't spent a lot of time looking around there, but after a quick look at Old Navy's website, I haven't been able to find any of the kids' clothing from the fall photos site. I did see Khate's vest, though.
I Nobody, thanks for the info. Not to discredit preesi but it does make sense that the date might change if the photo was edited in Photoshop. Maybe the original photo file was too large to put on the site so INF reduces it. Or, they did some slight tweaks to the photo such as cropping or color editing. So the date changes because it's a new file created in Photoshop or it changes to reflect when an image is uploaded to INF's site for business purposes.
I know I can't upload high resolution images on some sites due to size limits or bandwidth, so I reduce them in Photoshop and save as another file to protect the original image.
Thanks for looking into it before we over-speculate or make assumptions based on misinformation.
who CARES what day, what time, whatevah, the pics were taken? REALLY, just, WHO CARES? But do any of the kids look like they were dressed in brand spankin new really sharp outfits that had to be and were bought just 1 hour prior to 'film fest'? And how did they change the wicked witch of the west into princess charming in less than an hour, hair and makeup, teach her to smile for the camera AND get her thunder thighs into SKINNY SKINNY jeans? come on, kate, what you're selling, we ain't buying!
I'm definitely NOT a Kate (as a child-exploiter) supporter, but you guys are making it difficult to stay here.
She took pictures in her yard, she went shopping on Sunday. That's it.
No conspiracy.
I LIVE 15 minutes from this woman. Unless you live here you really don't know what the weather is like, which way the shadows lie when coming out of the mall or Old Navy (which is in the shopping center on the other side of the Avenue across the Mall)
You all nit pick the most absurd things.
You are nit-picking her recipes, (and yes they ARE awful)and her laundry habits, etc -- come on, this is getting really out of hand.
I don't like the fact that she is yelling at her children in public, but that doesn't mean there is some great conspiracy at INF. Yes, I do believe INF got the date wrong, and the reason I haven't posted much in the last few weeks is that some of the topics (w/ exception of the Duggar one) have been absolutely absurd in their concept.
I have a family I can spend time with and would rather do that than obsess for or against a woman whose children are no longer being filmed for TV. I just wish we could all give them the privacy we have afforded Jon when he has the kids.
Falling like a brick said...
I'm definitely NOT a Kate (as a child-exploiter) supporter, but you guys are making it difficult to stay here.
I have a family I can spend time with and would rather do that than obsess for or against a woman whose children are no longer being filmed for TV. I just wish we could all give them the privacy we have afforded Jon when he has the kids.
October 21, 2011 3:35 AM
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3. No insulting other posters or picking fights, refusing to let things go and move on. Stop with the snotty comments--they will be rejected. Treat people here like how you would talk to the person you most respect in your life, it's just pleasant that way.
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Yet, here you are. Nit picking poster comments & critiques about the infamous Katie Kreider. She chose to live her life in the 'realest reality show' sacrificing the children's childhood & privacy. She's angling for any type of 'media show' possible SO she's trying very, very hard to stay relevant @ the expense of the Gosselin 8. If it means exposing herself by screaming & mistreating the kids in public for attention, her master mind plan...DO IT! She, allegedly, has the lone pap on speed dial to take parking lot pics because NO ONE else will. ANY attention, good or bad, is better than NO attention...trust me C-atie Krawfor will take it.
Pathological liar is her forte. She doesn't want privacy, she wants another job in the media...her words on twitter & in interviews.
Please spend time w/your family...you don't need to read this blog's postings.
Katie Kreider does NOT want the "privacy we have afforded Jon when he has the kids."
Katie consider's Jon's life a mediocre life. She loves the attention & $$, something she would NEVA give up! Even if it means she will be alone with her aloness. NO family, NO friends...just paid YES people who are slowly disappearing out of her life. Now she's 'exhausted' because the latest reality in her life is she FINALLY has to do ALL the work by her lonely self. She's exhausted from styling the kids & setting up the photo op for their annual Fall pics. That should be a walk in the park for the master mind organizer, right?!
Whether the pictures were taken when she said they were or not, she is excusing yelling at her daughters because she's "stressed".
She seems to think that taking her stress out on others - even her children - is just fine.
It's obvious that she's the same loving mother she was all during the TLC show. What a harridan!
Nobody else matters, especially not her miserable kids.
If I were that inclined to stress out on a trip to a clothing store, I'd plan better. A loving, organized parent wouldn't be doing a mad rush to a store an hour before a photo shoot.
Everyone concerned here already had clothes. Pull 'em out of the closet and go to the shoot. Problem solved.
Oh, unless you have to stick out in a bright yellow vest you didn't bother to buy earlier in the week. THEN a trip to Old Navy and screaming at the kids is in order.
Whether the pictures were taken when she said they were or not, she is excusing yelling at her daughters because she's "stressed".
She seems to think that taking her stress out on others - even her children - is just fine.
It's obvious that she's the same loving mother she was all during the TLC show. What a harridan!
Nobody else matters, especially not her miserable kids.
If I were that inclined to stress out on a trip to a clothing store, I'd plan better. A loving, organized parent wouldn't be doing a mad rush to a store an hour before a photo shoot.
Everyone concerned here already had clothes. Pull 'em out of the closet and go to the shoot. Problem solved.
Oh, unless you have to stick out in a bright yellow vest you didn't bother to buy earlier in the week. THEN a trip to Old Navy and screaming at the kids is in order.
Administrator, my comment showed up as "published", but then disappeared. Has my IP been banned? I'm not the only one who uses this machine, though I don't know of any reason anyone who does might have been banned.
That's the only reason I can think of that might cause a comment to appear, and then disappear once the page is refreshed.
Or are the comments in moderation, but showing up quickly before being pulled back for approval? Something doesn't seem to be working quite right.
I don't like nit picking Kate to death either. But I do love a good mystery and the Case of the Upload Date is fun. True it is Kate logic (ie loosey, goosey) to think that having something to do gives you freedom to yell at your children, so truly the whole argument is meaningless. But it is fun! And I love catching her in her lies. (Looks like maybe this one is not but at first I thought it was a slam dunk just because she had black roots on the family photo shoot and no roots at Old Navy, but if I look closer MAYBE the roots were there at Old Navy.)
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All Kate had to do was sit there and get her hair and makeup done...
There ya go...That's why she was soooo stressed. She just HAD to look perfect.
When she tweets, talks, opens her mouth, blogs, she's lying. I don't believe anything that comes out her mouth. If the INF photos has a TIME stamp, then Kate is mistaken. Why lie? Because she can. She wants to look put-upon. She wants to be the end-all, be-all, "I can & WILL & CAN do anything mom."
Well, Kate, You don't, you're not, & you've been lying since DAY 1. A photo shoot doesn't have to be stressful. In fact, they're fun. Can't she just go with it? Not every damn thing has to be "work" & barking orders & stressing the kids & giving them anxiety all the time. She needs to get some. Maybe that's why she only washes her sheets twice a month.
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Falling like a brick,
By all means go spend time with your family. I'd hate to think anyone was neglecting their family for a blog about a washed up reality TV person. I certainly don't neglect my family to comment here, no one should.
As for the date, time, etc, it doesn't even matter to me. All I know is everytime she's around, the kids look miserable or angry or detached. All of them.
But anyone who has watched even one episode of the show can see how cold and controlling she is, so what kid WOULD feel happy in her presence? I've seen them having a ball only to have her show up, freak out, bark orders, and suck all the joy out of the room in a few seconds flat. And that wasn't just a rare thing, it's how she operates. It wasn't editing, because you can't take a warm, loving, happy mom and edit her into that kind of joy-killing control freak shrew.
She seems to think being a mom means having 100% compliance with her orders, means controlling their every move, barking orders like they're little soldiers or dogs.
She can make all the excuses in the world for why her kids always look so miserable around her, I'm not buying it, because I've seen her in action and ANYONE would be miserable around her. Remember how Jon looked?
She's a sorry excuse for a mother, and I wish she realized gestating eight of them and then controlling their every move doesn't make you a good mom.
She can make all the excuses in the world for why her kids always look so miserable around her, I'm not buying it, because I've seen her in action and ANYONE would be miserable around her. Remember how Jon looked?
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Jon looked dejected and defeated. In a couple episodes it struck such a chord with me that it was hard to watch.
I hope that Jon has become a stronger person from going through the abuse that he did.
At least I didn't have kids with my abusive ex, that makes things more challenging. Jon seems to be handling things maturely for his sake, his girlfriend's sake and the kids' sake.
Funny, if we are to believe that the paps are just hanging around the Reading, PA area just to get Gosselin photos, why virtually never a photo of Jon? Of Jon and Ellen? Shopping? No. Going out to dinner? No. Going shopping? No.
It's just Kate and any kids that are with Kate.
Things that make you go hmmmm.
The bottom line is that the time and date don't really matter. What does matter is the fact that the kids (once again) look miserable. Yes, I know that kids (girls more especially) at that age can change moods at the drop of a hat, but this is their normal expression around Kate. Could the date/time be wrong because of downloading, possibly and after reading some of the comments, probably. But the fact remains the kids don't look happy and once again Kate has her scowley face on (don't know if it's a word but it fits). She never appears to be happy when with her kids, but the minute she's out and about in NY city or anywhere else without them she's all smiles.
If Kate really wanted privacy for herself or for the 8 she would do it or would've done it all ready.
She has money so why not enjoy it? and relax with her wonderful 8 instead of going all out with the pics and website and god knows what's next?. She doen't want any form of privacy
She never appears to be happy when with her kids, but the minute she's out and about in NY city or anywhere else without them she's all smiles.
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I have to agree wholeheartedly. It's not just once or twice that she's smiled at the paps in NYC, it's all the time. In fact, her avatar is a pap photo of her!
Her "candid" photos with the kids and all the video footage from K+8 do not comport at all with her tweets and photo shoots.
If we are to believe that the Old Navy photos were taken before the shoot, we see the real Kate and girls in the parking lot, and the fake smiles and happy, happy family during the photo shoot.
I have to hand it to those kids. They can really turn it on and play it up for the cameras when they have to. Not surprising as they've been doing this their whole lives. Kate expects it so they've got no choice. It's not like Jon's around to give them a break or stick up for them. It's a simple matter of survival skills for the kids.
I wonder if Kate has permission for the pap photos she uses on Twitter and her blog from the entities who own the photos.
Preesi should sleuth this one out!
Kate probably thinks because she is the subject of the photo and the pap/website make money off her image that she's got the right to freely use their photos without any credit.
Not. True.
Miss Organized was tweeting about the fall pics on Friday. Why would Miss Organized wait until 1 hour before a shoot to go shopping? And she had uber styling in those pics..she expects us to belive she went to ON, came home, dressed 8 kids and herself and did her hair and makeup in an hour? Ooohhh Kaaay
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Regarding the lies - I don't like to bring up the Casey Anthony case (might be considered off-topic) but I can't help thinking about that liar when discussing THIS particular liar.
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Holy Cow! I was reading down about how things don't add up and I thought, she is just like Casey Anthony! She made up elaborate details of a work life, including forged emails and faked conversations. Is K8 tweeting a complete fantasy life? I mean I know she is lying/exaggerating but is she as delusional and devious as KC? I am beginning to think so...
Well indeed, looks like since the photoshoot photos also have the wrong date INF is unethically manipulating the photo date. But like so many have said it doesn't matter!
Kate doesn't work. She doesn't have her children many weekends a month. She had all the time in the world to get her hiney over to Old Navy. Miss Organized waits until the day of the photoshoot to make it the most stressful as possible. She sets herself up, and she likes to.
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Well indeed, looks like since the photoshoot photos also have the wrong date INF is unethically manipulating the photo date. But like so many have said it doesn't matter!
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Well then, it looks like my original statement stands. Way to work the kids on their Sunday off, Kate. Man, I'll bet they just count the days until they can be with Jon. No cameras, virtually pap-free, and no working.
I just can't imagine what it must be like to have that nasty hag screaming at you 24/7. Those poor children.
I guess I'm wondering why someone was even around to bother taking a picture. Is this the person she calls when she wants a fake pap shot? I can't imagine any shots of her bringing much cash anymore so I was just curious.
Well, I had a "fall photo shoot" with my family this weekend too. We went picking apples as my husband and I have done have done every year with our three children Our adult daughter, college age daughter and teenage son are in the pictures along with our two dogs. None of us have had hair and makeup done and to be honest, we look like a medicore family. But in every picture you see smiles.
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Dwindle, thank you for always saying what I was thinking.
Because you and so many other authors here express themselves so well, I get lazy and just read without contributing myself.
I have a niece who is mothering 5 sons (all under 8 years old) She has a delightful blog. She homes schools, makes her own baby food, and shops yard sales for cute clothes. She LOVES her children and each day she shares with them. Her blog tales are heart-warming and funny. My niece is wonderful, but not unique.
Kate wears me out! She belabors a few tasks. Attacks life with the pleasure of a chain saw. She is weary, stressed, unhappy and dismissive all of the time. (Well, except maybe when she is playing celebrity.)
Kate is putting her miserable stamp on the lives of 8 impressionable children. Perhaps that is the tragedy of the tale.
The analysis here is more entertaining and fulfilling than Kate will ever be.
I am always left wondering why I feel so strongly (in the negative) about someone I don't know....she must allow me to re-live experiences with unpleasant people from my past. She embodies so many unattractive traits...
Thanks, all.
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Just one other thought. What is easier than a Fall photo shoot? The leaves provide amazing details. Everyone's hair gleams in the filtered sunshine. Subjects are outside -- loved the apple picking idea -- with props provided by Mother Nature in a creative season. Throw a hand full of leaves in the air and let you little ones giggle.
Find the stress in that....only Kate. Her pointing finger photo just aggravates me. Somehow, it says it all about her micro-management.
Seriously. If Kate didn't have such a history of lying, people wouldn't nitpick everything she says and tweets. We'd take what she says at face value. Unfortunately, she's made a habit (or maybe it's pathological) of telling half-truths and non-truths, so you feel like you almost have to look into it to see if it's true or not.
Just my two-cents for what it's worth. TGIF everyone and have a wonderful weekend.
I don't like nit picking Kate to death either. But I do love a good mystery and the Case of the Upload Date is fun...And I love catching her in her lies. (Looks like maybe this one is not but at first I thought it was a slam dunk just because she had black roots on the family photo shoot and no roots at Old Navy, but if I look closer MAYBE the roots were there at Old Navy.)
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She has her hair pulled back in the Old Navy photos - much easier to hide dark roots that way. With blonde hair, you see the roots much more when the hair has a distinct part. Been there, do that, except that my cut, color and blow-out cost me $90, and looks 100 percent better than hers!
Having weighed all of the evidence carefully (love a good mystery, too), my conclusion is that Kate was not lying (good gosh...for the first time ever) and that the shopping photos were taken on Sunday. If it weren't for Wednesday's rain, I'd really be on the fence with this one. In addition, Thursday morning, Kate tweeted about rain AGAIN, showing that it was, in fact, raining on Wednesday or she never would have tweeted that.
If Kate wanted privacy for herself and the kids, she would shut down her Twitter (or make it private, there are public figures who do that on Twitter), shut down the website, and just lead a quiet life.
If she's not requesting these photos (and I'm SURE she is, there isn't really any demand for them anymore, so why else would a pap just be hanging out in Pennsylvania?), then they would dry up and stop eventually anyway. (But again, I think she has something to do with them.)
Sure, anyone can live a private life. There are TONS of former public figures who are never heard of or heard from anymore.
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As for her unpleasant personality (many have been discussing this), I've run into a few Kates in my life, unfortunately. One of them I couldn't do anything about until I was grown (my mother). But as an adult, if I ever run into someone as consistently unpleasant, self-centered, obnoxious, bossy, etc, as Kate I go the other direction FAST. I get the hell away from them.
I had a friend once who was super sweet and I loved her, but SHE had a Kate for a friend. Lord, she was awful. And my sweet friend invited her to every social function we had in our group. NO ONE liked this woman. At first, we were too polite to compare notes among ourselves, because that was like gossiping about someone.
But eventually she got so bad, we had to say something. We talked to our nice friend alone and just explained that she was like a happiness killer, flinging thinly veiled insults at everyone and lassoing the spotlight back onto herself if it drifted from her for even two seconds.
I mean one woman told us her mom was dying of cancer one day, very tearfully told us they had just gotten the diagnosis of inoperable and this woman blithely started in on HER recent medical horror: SURGERY FOR AN INGROWN TOENAIL. As much as we knew this woman was an obnoxious jerk, we were in complete disbelief. She gave no indication of empathy or sympathy to this woman and jumped into her heart-rending tale of an ingrown toenail. She didn't even seem to be AWARE of how much of a jerk she was!
That was the final straw for us. Our sweet friend wouldn't give up her jerk friend, so we gave her up. Sad, but true. Kate has always reminded me of Jerk Lady. Clueless, self-absorbed, no consideration for others.
No wonder Kate has no friends.
For all who are tired of reading here, I wish you a pleasant farewell. But why do I suspect you will continue reading even if you don't post? OK, maybe you won't. But we'll still be here if you decide to peek. ;-)
Dallas Lady, it sounds like you did all you could to preserve your friendship, but she made her (poor) choice. Some people are drawn to the Kates of the world, just look at her servile "tweeties".
I checked the exif data using a Google Chrome extension and the dates & times for both photos (Old Navy & Family Fall Photo) were the same dates as the dates of the blog post and the times were just within a half hour or so of the posting time. So it's pulling the exif data from the dates/times of when the photo was edited (it shows up as being edited in Photoshop) not of when the photo was taken.
Really it doesn't make any difference to me when the photo was shot - the fact is that Kate is a raging bitchaholic to her kids and it doesn't matter when INF posts photos or blogs about it. Look at the facial & body language of the kids at the recent bus stop photos & of the twins at Old Navy - the photos speak for themselves.
It's hilarious that she feels the need to keep defending herself via Twitter. In her mind - photoshoot = stress = OK to be "crabby"!
Localyocul asked if Kate was tweeting a fantasy life and it made me think...her tweets and blog posts sound like conversations I had with my friends when I was about 12 or 13. You know, those blanket statements we all made about what we would and would not do as parents and what our future children would or would not do...the delusional ideas we all had before reality came knocking on our doors. I think she (or someone) is describing the life they imagined as an adolescent because it's too hard to admit that reality didn't measure up.
OT: I don't remember who asked about crock pot recipes on the other thread, but if you have a facebook account, check out the Fix It And Forget It page: https://www.facebook.com/fixitandforgetit
Fabulous recipes and ideas - if you don't have fb, I think she has a FIAFI web page, and she has written several crock pot cook books.
This may have been said.
But organized Kate didn't even have the outfits until an hour before the show. I mean, that was this is about show---
Piece of work--gonna ruin her kids over something that is clearly over--her career as a tv's most miserable person
There were pap photos from rags of sweet Ellen that she later posted on her FB page. They were rag shots of HER and she LATER put them on her OWN facebook page. And the sheeple went after her with every vicious thing they could think of. Why is it ok for Kate to do it? (I ask rhetorically...)
Ok, want to point out that the articles say they took pics in Reading, not at her house, One article said it was at a pumpkin patch. If their dog is not in the pics, it was not at home. I don't believe Kate was at church.
There are 2 words for Kate: DRAMA QUEEN! Kate wants to be center of attention.
Like I've been saying Kate can't remember what she says 5 min ago, much less, knows about anything, that is not about her. Kate knows nothing about cameras, cause if she did , she would not have disputed the day and time the Old Navy pics were taken. Just like the car, if she had owned it around April, how come there are no picks from that time, but months later? Was she keeping it in the garage?
A lying BSer!
OK, my only question/comment left about the photoshoot is just what is her highness pointing to with her talons? Is it something like "oh look hither children of mine, I see a flying pumpkin in the yonder distance?" What a tool.
Don't be too hard on the poster who has K8 fatigue and expressed it here, I'm sure many of us, from time to time, wonder why we are spending time and energy on this trainwreck. When I feel that way I simply choose to read or not read. You have to admit that sometimes the conversation here goes to strange places for some.
I am going to have to paraphrase but kudos to whoever above summed it up by saying the truly worst thing about all of this is how K8 continues to put her stamp of misery on the lives of 8 impressionable children. To which I add, absent of family and friends, thank goodness that they do get to escape to school and have a loving, non-neurotic, father who they sadly do not see enough of. And that is the look we see on the twins' faces - they have MeMeMe Mom's number for sure.
I wonder if when the children are having their physical (medical) exams, their Doctor checks for ulcers. From all I've read it seems to me, with his mother, these children are prime candidates for stress related problems.
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fade2black said... OT: I don't remember who asked about crock pot recipes on the other thread, but if you have a facebook account, check out the Fix It And Forget It page: https://www.facebook.com/fixitandforgetit
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FADE: I LOVE THAT SITE! Go there all the time!
@ Maryann, you dont post often but I feel like I always know you are here with us. :) You said you wondered why you feel so strongly - For me it's because so many of us work hard internally to be good people and care for others and we rejoice in the rewards of that. Here she is making a career of of disgust and disdain for her children and outright hatred toward EVERYONE on the planet earth, except maybe 'It's all about him' Steve. And she has been handed so much that she scoffs at and then demands more.
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Also - Anonymous said... Kate's excuse or justification for yelling at her kids because she is stressed is similar to some abusers who emotionally or physically abuse family members because they too take out their stress or emotions on others.
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YES. THE TYPICAL TEXT BOOK ABUSER WHO SAYS THE NEXT MORNING "I'M SO SORRY I HIT YOU. BUT YOU MADE ME MAD AND YOU MADE ME DO IT." And Kate says: It's not my fault, I have stress. The kids, Jon, the kids, the photographer, the kids, my parents, the kids, the media, the kids, the production team, the kids, the kids' bills, the kids they all make me this way, they give me stress."
HI 50 said... Falling like a brick said...
I'm definitely NOT a Kate (as a child-exploiter) supporter, but you guys are making it difficult to stay here.
I have a family I can spend time with and would rather do that than obsess for or against a woman whose children are no longer being filmed for TV. I just wish we could all give them the privacy we have afforded Jon when he has the kids.
October 21, 2011 3:35 AM
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3. No insulting other posters or picking fights, refusing to let things go and move on. Stop with the snotty comments--they will be rejected. Treat people here like how you would talk to the person you most respect in your life, it's just pleasant that way.
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Yet, here you are. Nit picking poster comments & critiques about the infamous Katie Kreider. She chose to live her life in the 'realest reality show' sacrificing the children's childhood & privacy. She's angling for any type of 'media show' possible SO she's trying very, very hard to stay relevant @ the expense of the Gosselin 8. If it means exposing herself by screaming & mistreating the kids in public for attention, her master mind plan...DO IT! She, allegedly, has the lone pap on speed dial to take parking lot pics because NO ONE else will. ANY attention, good or bad, is better than NO attention...trust me C-atie Krawfor will take it.
Pathological liar is her forte. She doesn't want privacy, she wants another job in the media...her words on twitter & in interviews.
Please spend time w/your family...you don't need to read this blog's postings.
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Whoa, Nellie! I'm going to take up for "Falling like a brick," simply because she's a long-time and regular poster here. You appear to be someone new to me, but there are so many new posters here I'm losing track. I just don't like seeing a new poster getting testy with a regular, respected poster here.
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Dwindle, good explanation as to why Kate interests us. You are correct. Also, love the use of the word, "scoff" Perfect!
Who gives a flip when the old navy photos were taken? Who isn't stressed out sometimes? Bottom line is she is yelling at the kids in public and they look miserable. Ugh. Nice try, inf? Does she think she has somehow won a debate here? Such an idiot. The twins look defeated and exhausted.
@JudyK. No problem Nellie. I've been around for quite a while & read several non-fan blogs daily which includes 15-Minutes. I rarely post here because I usually find the postings informative & entertaining but it seems as if "Falling like a brick..." had a problem reading the latest topic. If so then please, spend time with your family. Simple solution.
BTW my snarking was directed toward C-atie Krawford's recent behaviors toward her children.
*poof*
I mean one woman told us her mom was dying of cancer one day, very tearfully told us they had just gotten the diagnosis of inoperable and this woman blithely started in on HER recent medical horror: SURGERY FOR AN INGROWN TOENAIL. As much as we knew this woman was an obnoxious jerk, we were in complete disbelief.
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I have an aunt like that. 2 years ago, my son blew out his knee playing football. Torn ACL, PCL, MCL & fractures to the growth plate. He was in literally, the biggest cast anyone had ever seen. From his toes to mid thigh. My son is 6'3 and played Linebacker, so he's a big boy=BIG ass cast. He was confined to bed for 6 weeks, then 12 more weeks dragging the cast around & then 12 weeks in a knee brace from hell. My aunt visits right after kiddo can start to move around with his cast. And starts in on her "tragic" tale of twisting her knee walking down the stairs at church.
I'll never forget the way my kiddo looked at me, looked at his cast, and then looked at my aunt. He had this total "are you eff'ing kidding me" look going. One my brothers saw the exchange and burst out laughing. My aunt asks "what's so funny" and God love him, my brother goes "have you noticed the kid with the 80 lb cast sitting in front of you? I think he tops your minor twisted knee." My aunt looked horrified, my son was smiling, my mom & I were giggling quietly and my both of my brothers were bold faced laughing out loud. But at least my aunt shut the hell up after that.
Since then, my son isn't required to attend any family event that said aunt attends. He's old enough now to make that choice IMO. I'd skip her visits if I could....lol
Falling like a brick said... *poof*
How's your family? Hope you're enjoying the change in seasons from summer to fall. It's finally cooling down in my part of the world. My family picture taking tradition is our annual New Year's card (Xmas is too hectic) and spring-time photo when all the flowers are in bloom. We plan our photos, weeks in advance - theme & color and every one has a voice in the process. Grandparents, parents & kids participate in all aspects. The adults usually give in to our babies...because they have fresh minds & we encourage their creative growth. So how's your family?
You know, this happens from time to time here and there's a word for it, but I can't think of it now. Basically, this happens occasionally on all blogs and internet hangouts where someone doesn't just gradually lose interest and stop visiting as much, posts less, and maybe eventually leaves for good. Many people do that all the time, BUT, sometimes there just has to be the person who creates the drama of ANNOUNCING why they must leave, while listing their issues with the site and the posts and comments, and storms off. The (usually silent) response of most other posters, is "Yeah, so who cares? See ya, bye, bye!"
Oh, the internet....oh, the drama!
Who gives a flip when the old navy photos were taken? Who isn't stressed out sometimes?
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I think posters giving a flip came about when Kate tweeted that INF had the date wrong, and then went on to say it was taken Sunday, therefore finding an excuse for her obnoxious behavior toward the kids in that photo (STRESS). The fact that she can find excuses was/is at issue, once again not realizing the main issue at hand - her yelling at the kids when she diverted the attention to INF getting the date wrong.
Kate isn't just stressed out SOMETIMES. Kate has, historically, been shown to take out her stress on her kids, which lately has been quite often. Check out the RV episode. So she's stressed - fine, but find some way to work it out that doesn't involve taking it out on the kids! These children must walk on eggshells, not knowing what kind of a mood she's going to be in, if she's stressed or not, and what they are going to get blamed for.
@steff said...
LMAO! Your son sounds precious! Out of the mouths/looks of babes - a 6'3" big boy. Hahahaha, your story is so funny!! Thanx for the daily dose of laughter!
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I am really enjoying the "Narcissist I Have Known" stories.
@Nobody Likes a Narcissist...you know! LMAO! Listing greivances about a topic, drama.
@New York State of Mind said...now that Cara & Mady are tweens, they are walking in Jon's shoes. Never knowing WHEN Monster Dearest is gonna have a meltdown, start screeching, embarassing the G8 in public. No awareness of others around her, classic narcissistic-abuser behaviors. C-atie cares about herself. It's evident in their photo shoot. The G8 are dressed in dark fall colors while she is dressed in a bright yellow vest. "Look @ ME, ME ME!!" So we're looking, commenting, critiquing...just giving her what she wants. What's wrong with that? MUAHAHAHA!
HI 50....
that was 2 years ago. My "baby" is now 6'6! He needs to stop growing already. Sadly, the injury ended his football career completely. But the good news is, we're set for old age "equipment". We have a wheelchair, a walker & crutches now. LoL
I get a lot of flack from several aunts that IMO have always been overly critical and downright nasty at times. I remember how they would (again IMO) torture us kids when they were ticked at my mom for something. They were always comparing kids in a way that we were the "bad" ones to their "perfect" ones. Well now that I have a kiddo, when I saw that behavior start, I just removed my kiddo from them. No one needs someone whose sole purpose is to make them feel like shit over the smallest things. Kiddo made an A-, well her perfect granddaughter made an A++++. Just stupid crap like that. So my son hasn't seen one aunt in like 8 years. I've seen her, but he hasn't. He hasn't seen the "twisted knee" aunt since that night. I've seen her, but he hasn't. Her last visit, she was all "where's he at, have him come over & go out to dinner with us". ummmm no, I'm not dragging a teenaged boy out to dinner with his mom, gramma, great gramma & 2 aunts. What teenaged boy wants to be drug around with a group of old ladies anyway? She is STILL bitching about that one months later. Oh well.....I don't subject my son to nasty negative attitudes or constant "you'll never measure up" comparisons.
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Her "candid" photos with the kids and all the video footage from K+8 do not comport at all with her tweets and photo shoots.
If we are to believe that the Old Navy photos were taken before the shoot, we see the real Kate and girls in the parking lot, and the fake smiles and happy, happy family during the photo shoot.
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Good point. This has been Khate's life for years and she seems to know no other way to live anymore. She has her fake super mom act that she's now pulling with her sugary "I love my kids, love being a mom, I live for them " tweets, and her fake smiling, happy photo shoots. Then there's the real Khate displayed in all the candid pap photos with the miserable, browbeaten kids, plus all the TLC footage of her horrible bitchiness to anyone and everyone unfortunate enough to be around her.
Now I know why she's always so tired. It must be exhausting always trying to create and maintain a facade and pretend you're someone different from who you really are, and that your life is happier than what it really is. She's a completely miserable person and I really don't think that will ever change.
One more thing about Khate going to Old Navy right before the photo shoot. I agree with those who think that if Khate really did that, it's kind of crazy, not very organized at all, and poor planning. She had all week to go through their new fall clothes that they must already have and put together some outfits that she thought would be good. That is completely stress free and by now, she should be able to easily do that in no time while they're at school.
But, the other thing is that it also makes no sense to me that she would rush to Old Navy at the last minute and just ASSUME that she would find three matchy matchy outfits for the girls and three matchy matchy outfits for the boys. C'mon, fellow moms, does that make any sense at all? I can't even begin to count the number of times that I've been in the Gap (I shop there more than Old Navy) and found clothing that I like, but not in my kids' sizes. Knowing those stores, I find it almost incredible that she was able to find three exact outfits for the boys and three for the girls. Particularly since a lot of the fall stuff has been on sale since Columbus Day and is all picked through. How did Khate know she'd find three matching outfits for the girls and boys in their correct sizes, and if she didn't find them, what was the back up plan?
All I can think this that as Kate gets older, into her 40s and so on that she might get more controlling and far more nasty. Generally you mellow with age but as Kate begins to fade I see her trying all the more to claw and hang onto her spotlight. The more I see her trying the more to control her kids in whatever way she can.
Certainly if Jon were to marry this would just drive Kate absolutely mad with no prospects of her own: no show, no love interest. How will she truly fair being a divorced (not-single) mother of 8 teenagers? She does not demonstrate patience or skills as a parent and the least bit interest in her children as individual with the exception of their individual labels of "professor," or other such things.
Post from MaryAnn --
My life and Kate's life are quite different.
But, we do share one "responsibility". I live in a large Mid-West house. I am surrounded by acres that require mowing, woods land with lots of mature trees and a pond (rather than pool).
The maintenance involved is, at times, imposing. Last night, most of my potted plants survived the drop in temperatures. Anything decorative in a pot needs regular and thorough watering... she can't leave home without thinking about that care. Mowing slows down in the Fall, but is replaced by the necessity to remove tons of fallen leaves. They create a murderous mulch when plastered to the grass.
There is also pruning and fertilizing and weeding and snow removal on a long driveway and cutting of limbs and trees after a wind storm. Mother Nature wins every contest! (That sports car won't leave home if the drive way is drifted closed.)
We do this work ourselves, but not without very large equipment. (4 mowers, small tractors, fork lift, loader, etc). My husband is a farmer so owning this equipment is just a part of our lives.
The services of a lawn care company would run in the thousands. Mowing alone would probably be $600.00 a weekly session. Maybe TLC covered this expense when they needed access to the house. Kate should be stressed by the choice of actually working or writing the fat checks. (And, her manicured nails will not survive.)
Her home is lovely, but the mortgage is just the tip of an over-whelming ice burg. She is flustered by laundry and unloading groceries. I look at her lifestyle and see real tasks that she never mentions.
These comments prompted by the fact that today the sun is shining and I am outside working! Great exercise.
Just saw the new post on Kate's "blog" and had to comment
" The other night after bringing up the requested four bales of hay from the barn with his brothers, Aaden wanted to tell me something he saw in the barn. He started his sentence like this: “Mommy, when we were down in the barn, getting hay loafs….”
So so cute! Was he thinking of MEAT loaf? Lol!"
---Just sad that these small boys had to carry four hay bales all the way from the barn for the pictures. Poor kids....
Another....
"4. When we got our bikes home last Friday night, I readied them for the kids to ride in the dark, because I had PROMISED to let them ride them as soon as we got home! As the kids were waiting patiently as I removed the plastic, one bike at a time, Joel walked up to Collin and said “hey Collin, is that one your bike?” And Collin replied in a happy passionate way saying “Yes it is! Isn’t it bee-u-tee-ful???”
---So the woman is BROKE but just bought new bikes for all the kids. At first I thought they were just being transported from Dad's but she said she unwrapped the plastic from each one. So what, $100 a pop on a bike times 8? $800 on new bikes and Christmas is only a couple of months away.
Is the pap getting pictures of these beeyooteeful
bikes? I hope he's not allowed on the property despite Kate's endless quest for publicity.
I just looked at Twitter and it seems her hair stylist tweeted that she's in NYC getting her straw bleached. I'm sure there will be some staged pap shots out to dinner and/or shopping later. Whatever, I'm just happy the kids can have some real fall fun with their father this weekend because I bet last Sunday's last minute clothes shopping, "styling", and fake, phony fall photo shoot of the unhappy family must have been hell. I hope the kids have a great weekend away from the Narcissist from Hell this weekend!
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@Glambr are your ears burning? I gave @Kateplusmy8 #autumnalprincesshighlights so of course we talked about you....
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Lake Up North, my narcissist mother reached her peak in insanity with controlling others and being a total asshole in her 40s and 50s. She's now 63, and has mellowed a BIT (from what I'm told), but I think it's only because there's no one left for her to control. My brother talks to her maybe twice a year (that's who I hear things from), her parents are gone (and only barely tolerated her when they were alive), and her sister hasn't had anything to do with her in years, despite living just a few minutes away. She can pile on the charm when trying to make new friends, but most people sense her crazy very quickly and get the hell away from her.
So she's all alone. No adult children come around, she isn't allowed to see her three grandchildren, no one. Nothing. She lives alone in a big house and can't keep a job. She's going broke very quickly and my brother and I will have to talk soon about what to do.
Hasn't she damaged her hair enough already? At this point I don't think you can call it hair.
I am not sure but is it possible to ruin your hair from bleaching it so much? Keratin hair straightening cannot be all that good.
She claims she doesn't fuss with her hair all that much and it's up in a hat most days or whatever. Not the case. As a mother of 8 she has all this time to go back and forth NYC to get her hair ruined some more? Most mother's do not have all this time to mess with hair, ponytail or clip it up and we're off.
I cannot believe Kate actually has mother's out there who follow and believe this is real life. She spends all this money on hair alone when I just spent $25 for haircut of my own. And she's broke, right? Unbelievable!
If she's getting her hair done today, then seriously, she SUCKS at organizing & "masterminding" things. Wouldn't most of us get our hair done BEFORE we had a family picture made? Wouldn't most of us have the outfits for the family picked out well BEFORE the day of the pics?
So the woman is BROKE but just bought new bikes for all the kids. At first I thought they were just being transported from Dad's but she said she unwrapped the plastic from each one. So what, $100 a pop on a bike times 8? $800 on new bikes and Christmas is only a couple of months away.
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I doubt that she bought bikes for one hundred dollars a pop, not in this day and age, and not with her wanting the best. I'm willing to bet that the bikes were more like $250 to $300 each, and that the kids bought them with their own money.
"There is also pruning and fertilizing and weeding and snow removal on a long driveway and cutting of limbs and trees after a wind storm. Mother Nature wins every contest! (That sports car won't leave home if the drive way is drifted closed.)"
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Actually, it's quattro all-wheel drive, one of the few sports cars made that has it. She should do fine in it as long as there isn't a 30-inch snowfall, in which case she has the Toyota SUV. Snow removal on the driveway might run about $40 a snow, no more...it's not hilly, it's flat, just a simple long driveway.
"The services of a lawn care company would run in the thousands. Mowing alone would probably be $600.00 a weekly session."
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It's not that much. She has a lot of acreage, but it doesn't all need mowing. Judging from what I paid on similar acreage, if they only mow once a week, it might run her $150 to $200 or so. She probably got a good deal from the service. Of course, I doubt that she ever lifts a finger doing anything on the pool, and there is always something that needs to be done with that - opening, closing, weekly maintenance, chemicals, mechanical problems (always!)...and it's not cheap.
Regardless, there is a tremendous amount of upkeep on that property and the bills would just keep coming in.
I think the main point that is being overlooked about the photos, when they were taken and Kate's reaction on Twitter is this: what the hell difference does it make when they were taken? The thing that is important is that Kate always DEFLECTS when she is lying. She covers her atrocious behavior towards her kids by picking a slight discrepancy in the reporting and jumps on that rather than answering the question of her terrible actions towards those kids. Stressed? Aren't all mothers stressed at times? No Kate, it doesn't' cut it that you are always, every single time, stressed and yelling.
For the poster that said Kate has thunder thighs. Sorry, I dislike Kate just like everyone here but I just don't see the thunder thighs on her. She is really thin and in good shape, IMO, definitely no thunder thighs. Now on the inside, well a whole different story.
I just looked at Twitter and it seems her hair stylist tweeted that she's in NYC getting her straw bleached.
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I don't understand why she has to go to NYC to get her hair done - especially when she's crying broke. We have wonderful upscale salons around here where I know that she could get great cuts and color for just a fraction of the cost without ruining her hair, which is way too light. Has she never heard of lowlights? She needs brown tones/dark honey blond put into that hair. She looks like Anna Nicole Smith with that over-all uni-color.
She's just really a piece of work...
Post from MaryAnn --
Out and About...thanks for correcting my estimates to PA standards.
She has reasons to be stressed. She just seems to focus on minor non-stressers while large issues loom.
Nobody Likes a Narcissist said... You know, this happens from time to time here and there's a word for it, but I can't think of it now. Basically, this happens occasionally on all blogs and internet hangouts where someone doesn't just gradually lose interest and stop visiting as much, posts less, and maybe eventually leaves for good. Many people do that all the time, BUT, sometimes there just has to be the person who creates the drama of ANNOUNCING why they must leave, while listing their issues with the site and the posts and comments, and storms off. The (usually silent) response of most other posters, is "Yeah, so who cares? See ya, bye, bye!"
Oh, the internet....oh, the drama!
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Nobody, the term is "flouncing" - for those who can tolerate salty language, Regretsy (a site that busts on Etsy) has documented some hysterical flounces on their FB page.
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Mimi, you're right. Kate does NOT have big thighs. That's just ridiculous. Even if that photo was taken with a wide angle lens, there's no way anyone could construe her thighs as fat.
Same BS on the speculation that she's had some sort of liposuction around her clavicles. Kate by her own admission does not do resistance exercise. She's naturally thin up top (except her boob job) and what you see is less than developed musculature, atrophy even due to her diet.
She's just a "pear" in shape.
I don't know if she had a waist prior to the tup pregnancy, but yes, her torso is more square than hourglass, but I'd take that any day over the stretched, wrinkled skin she was left with.
SarahP said...
---Just sad that these small boys had to carry four hay bales all the way from the barn for the pictures. Poor kids....
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I've never seen hay bales under 100 lbs. So either Katie has the smallest hay bales in the world or she's leaving something out of that story .. like the adult who helped them.
And was she really using hay bales for pics? Straw is much more comfy to sit on Katie.
small blocks of straw are what they used for the fall photos. You can buy them at a craft store this time of year, if you can't get them for free from Farmer Henry or some other nice person.
October 21, 2011 1:48 PM
fidosmommy said...
small blocks of straw are what they used for the fall photos. You can buy them at a craft store this time of year, if you can't get them for free from Farmer Henry or some other nice person.
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I get mine for free from Farmer Levi, a very nice Amish fellow just down the road! He even delivers them and brings along a few jugs of apple cider with him!
On kart's thighs, it used to be that she did have tree trunks for legs, but whatever she has done in the past couple of years, exercise-wise, has whittled some shape into them and thinned them to the point that I don't see tree trunks anymore.
I did see her once, out and about in PA, and she is not as chunky as she seems in pictures. Actally, I was surprised at how petite she was, considering I was thinking she would be a chunk.
Her legs are much improved.... as are her 'girls' and her teeth. Now if she could just something about that straw and her personality.... and her 'mothering skills'.......
hay vs straw. Kate probably got the wording wrong.It's an easy mix-up for people to do. No one is perfect.
Glad the kids got new bikes if they have outgrown the small ones. Hope the old ones get donated to worthy charity. ONe can dream.
I looked at OldNavy.com, and do not see the tups outfits on there. The older girls t-shirts are there, and the crazy vest, but the little kids stuff is not.
Any mother worth her weight in salt would have prepped for this earlier in the week, and while the kids were in school and she had time. No organized person would go shopping with two pre-teens to find and agree on outfits for a photoshoot in an hour. That's crazy.
And, with her hair and make-up, AND having to dress 8 kids/do hair, nag about shoes, etc. there's no way her story is true.
I have carried bales of hay around, and I don't wish that on anyone, especially little boys! It pokes and itches and really hurts! She must have had someone there that day to help her, I'm appalled that she wouldn't have them do it instead of making the boys. But, not surprised.
I will never understand why she is so stressed all the time.
I know people who live in poverty, have life threatening illnesses, have chidlren with life threatening illnesses, going through divorces, etc, and they are nowhere near as stressed as Kate is all the time.
She's stressed because she's ungrateful for what she has. End of story.
And, with her hair and make-up, AND having to dress 8 kids/do hair, nag about shoes, etc. there's no way her story is true.
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That she did everything herself? No way. That the pics were taken on Sunday is totally possibly. She had a crew there helping her. Steve, nannies, make-up person, whatever. It probably was an assembly line.
@Pam, you're right, she's stressed b/c it takes a lot of energy be UNgrateful. And don't forget, it also takes a LOT of energy to be a pathological LIAR. All her energy is focused on covering a*s when she tweets another lie & gets caught in her lie. Don'cha love Jon's black t-shirt, "LIES, LIES, LIES"
Yelling @ the Gosselin 8 in public is an indication that her fascade of a perfect family is FAILING. Imagine her behaviors behind closed doors! Hope Cara & Mady share what she's doing @ home with Jon. He needs to know b/c Monster Dearest is heading for the BIG meltdown.
SO, if she's heading to NY for touch up, it must be Jon's weekend with the kids. She bragged on Twitter that her bleached blonde upkeep is comped. Does anyone believe the salon is still comping her coloring? If not, will she be using a coupon for a discount? OR, will she be pulling a Heather McCartney? Heather owes her former hair stylist BIG $$. During her stint with DWTS, she hired a hair stylist, boo hooed that she didn't have $$ & could he wait until her divorce from Paul...she's gonna get big $$. Well guess what? Heather STILL owes $$. I can see Katie pulling Heather, blaming it on TLC/Jon or the Gosselin 8, "It's not my fault I can't pay my bill! TLC fired me. My kids & Jon can't support my lifestyle. It's not my fault." Wait, it's coming.
How many adult twitter fan does Kate have? Also why is she tweeting young kids
I think if a long-time reader or regular poster feels the need to express their reasons for leaving (or wanting to leave) this blog, then they should be able to as long as they are following the rules. Same as we treat off-topic, non-relevant comments.
There was a time when this blog allowed comments from posters in regards to their reasons for leaving other Gosselin blogs and this blog was respectful about that choice (whether we agreed or not).
When I left another Gosselin blog, I left a comment not to get attention or stir drama but because I wanted to be honest with the blog owner about why I couldn't support the blog any longer. It was a tough choice as I enjoyed reading the owner's insight but it became easier after my comment was nitpicked and many attacked me for having a different opinion.
Reading people's comments about the reasons they left certain blogs provides validation for some that they aren't the only ones feeling this way about a blog.
It's hard to see criticisms about this blog, but there are probably some readers or posters who feel the same way but don't express it. Hard to accept but I'm respectful of it whether I agree or not.
TLC ship, this is a great blog but one size doesn't fit all. I respect anyone who's not feeling it anymore. I wish them well and hope they find what they're looking for.
For me, sometimes the snark on Kate's body parts being big or having no waist is silly. I do however, reserve the right to comment on her boobs because it's so damn obvious that she's had a boob job that it seems impossible not to comment on those grapefruits! The funny thing is, the skinnier she gets, the bigger her bazooms seem. Now, that just doesn't happen in nature ;-)
TLC ship is sinking said... It's hard to see criticisms about this blog, but there are probably some readers or posters who feel the same way but don't express it. Hard to accept but I'm respectful of it "whether I agree or not." (Quotes added)
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Well said, and I agree...and I always enjoyed that poster's comments. And I have to add, the poster was never a "drama queen."
I haven't read every post, or even most of them actually lol, so feel free to tell me if either of these questions have been asked and/or answered. I think Khate wasn't expecting both paparazzi shoots (Old Navy and photoshoot) to come out one on top of the other. If the attention is ramping up, and the pap pics are for a tv special soon, it would make more sense to have them come out 3-4 days apart.
Second, anyone taking bets that there will be another People cover, or at least 'update'?
Second, anyone taking bets that there will be another People cover, or at least 'update'?
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How could Katie Irene's friend (I forget her name) at People get that by her bosses based on the poor sales of the most recent People cover? I really think all that's left for Katie Irene is those little blurbs in the NE.
What amazes me is that Kate's ONLY comment was that they got the date wrong. Not that she was wrong to have acted that way with her children.
Kate, the date, the time or the weather doesn't matter! What does matter is that your children look they have had their spirit beaten down. My heart broke when I saw their sad faces.
Just looked at the Family Fall pictures. I do not believe Kate is paying for these photos, nor do I believe she paid for those bikes. I think those pictures will show up somewhere, besides her blog, and then we will know who paid for those bikes...
Tamara, you raise an interesting question. Who has a stake in ramping up interest in K8, Inc. (which is the name of her corporation)? Besides Kate, that is?
Would it be Figure 8 Productions, which, despite the "8" in its name, has a lot of other TV projects going on? Would it be TLC, which apparently dropped her with no notice, issuing a cursory public statement and no "thanks for the memories"-type of farewell?
I am by no means attempting to answer, I would like to know what you all think. Of course, her manager, Julie Carson May, would be doing her utmost, as would Stevie, her top advisor/"road manager." Outside of these three interested parties (Kate, Julie, Steve), who might be in the game?
I honestly don't think a major media operation would look happily on what's going on with her website. It is so very unprofessional-looking--Brownnoser's site, which is clearly homemade, looks better. The content? Seemingly heartfelt, perhaps, but so awkwardly written? Who would put money behind any of this?
I think Kate, and only Kate, is underwriting these efforts at this point (and it's cheap at half the price), and I think she's going about it all wrong. Trying to recruit Twitter followers (when the purchase of same is such a common tactic) is really a no-gain proposition. And, by the way, it's pretty damn slow: in seven months, she has raised 60K, more than half of that amount since cancellation on August 15--can you say "obvious"?. By comparison to other "reality" stars, this is . . . sad.
So what else does she have going on? Anyone?
TLC ship is sinking......
Bravo, couldn't of said it better. (though I tried and lost the whole post!
Poor victimish C-atie. She's exhausted because she lost her job and income. She's busy 'master minding' with purse boy/handler/boob guard to develop a new gig...NO takers. She's exhausted because he lost her staff so now has to watch/drop-off/pickup the G8, wash her own laundry, clean, etc, etc. She's exhausted because she lost her her long-time sitter (Ashley) after that RV fiasco. AND it took a lot of energy to LIE that they had made up. According to Ashley, it didn't happen. She's exhausted because she lost her family, most of her friends - there may be a few hanger-ons who are hoping for a resurgence. Poor victim-ish C-atie...it's TLC, Jon & the kids fault.
If TLC is doing a special, twins birthday trip and Thanksgiving would be two fairly "fresh" subjects. A huge complaint about the last 3 seasons with the G family was that everything shown had been done over and over and over again.
When is the Oz trip again? If that is soon enough it could be put into the special.
In my humble opinion, Kate is stressed because she is a freaking control freak and when everything down to the gnats ass doesn't go according to her specs, she flips out. So I guess you could say that she is continually stressed because of that hyper control freak personality she has.
I wouldn't sort of color my own hair now and then if it wasn't for a husband who doesn't care for the grey stuff that keeps popping up. The man says nothing about anything, except for the hair. I buy 2 of those touch up the grey kits for $6 each, 2 different colors, mix and use the mixture twice. You can do it cuz the squeeze in tubes mean who only use half a tube and then there are 2 separate bottles you squeeze into. So each time costs me $6 and happens when DH mentions it.
Who saw happy kids of the photo shoot? I saw sulky, here we go again, oh when is this gonna be over, kids. I know that feeling. I think we've all been there, done that. Unfortunately, kids who have a parent who does this do them get that feeling all the time. Maybe some happy kids or neutral kids will show up that she has sold someplace, but I doubt it.
Happy to know to look at a craft store for hay you can actually move. Never thought of that. I can't budge those bales an inch. Horse, move thyself to the bale, it ain't coming to you!
How does Kate have any fans left. She's crying poor, begging for freebees, going to NYC for dye job, probably w/ her bf Steve, then bragging about a dinner out at Fig & Olive AGAIN. Probably spending the night in NY since it's Jon's weekend. Jon should sue her for support for the weekends he has the kids. Proportion to income he probably spends a greater percentage on kids than himself.
How in the world can someone this uneducated, this dull and this arrogant, let alone a poor judge of value on living have any friends at all?
If you know a mediocre person were to behave in such a way as she did, I wouldn't have any friends or the support system of quite large extended family that I have. How in the world does she pull it off? It makes no sense.
On the other side, the fact she brags out friends we haven't seen aside from Steve, Steve's wife, Jamie, Ashley...the later two appear to have left. Who else would want to be around someone so arrogant and so demanding? Her hairdresser? Not to be mean here but if I happen to be this acclaimed best hairsytlist in New York I would be pretty ashamed to have people see the work done on Kate.
Probably ate alone I imagine because it's always with friends in New York, never with friends in Pennsylvania.
If any normal working mother were to continually leave her children as much as she does dependent upon the care of someone else I would think this would be cause for Jon to have at least some say. She is divorced, her husband is not deceased surely he has some rights to his children more than what Kate claims the coverage of lunch and a few weekends.
I'm waiting for the day she either has a breakdown because she has nothing else left to do or winds up in court for some idiotic mishalf or other issue. She cannot possibly get away with and carrying on in this la-la-land state of mind, can she?
Don't know what Kate has going on, but i'm left with more questions than answers, aside from the "date" issues.It's my understanding that TLC always paid for the kids'clothes, always paid for food and many times paid for Kate's clothes when filming. (Remember the stacks of new clothes when packing for the RV trip). The photo of Kate putting Old Navy bags in the Audi showed 2 huge bags of clothes. Who paid paid for these?
Assuming the "family portrait" photos were taken the same day, did her hair go from a fairly short and stubby pony tail to a much longer and curly style? Notice the longer length in the photo with a side view and the unknown male. Wig? Extensions? And how can it be called a "family portrait" when, for the most part, only one person is facing the camera? The children are showing the backs of their heads.
And now to the bicycles. In one of the photos, you can see a red bicycle wheel. Were bicycles part of the equation? Who buys bicycles this time of year? The purchases would be for Christmas, birthday or maybe in the Spring.
Don't forget that Kate said she almost lost her phone to a cup of coffee on the way from church. So she was driving, drinking coffee and using the phone at the same time? Additionally, she doesn't appear to have on makeup on in the Old Navy photos. So....she went to church, came home, changed clothes, took off her makeup and went shopping?
Having worked as a "set designer" in a large commercial photography studio, I am very aware of the amount of time it takes for shoots. There are always delays of one kind or another. If Kate had to provide the straw bales, does it not stand to reason that she would provide the pumpkin and chrysanthemums also? When did she buy these?
My guess would be that the "family portrait" photos are "stills" taken from video film footage. Some of the photos suggest action instead of posing for non movement photos. But what would be the purpose for a filming session?
And don't forget, we still don't have answers to the Wyoming trip. And now she's going to Australia? It boggles the mind, doesn't it? And I still haven't figured out the cupcakes for the twins birthday or the ipadgate! No wonder I have insomnia!
I have to think that Kate has her Fig and Olive dinner with her hairdresser. Maybe other hairdressers from the shop also come along and somehow they write it off as a business expense? There is no way Kate is paying for that dinner---especially when she gives a personalized shout out to the staff at the restaurant. She is getting some kind of freebie.
Her latest tweet is so obviously "look how amazing my life is." Here's the thing: if she can afford to travel to NYC for a hair appointment, then go out to an expensive dinner, and stay in NY overnight, she cannot cry poor.
So she needs to shut the hell up with this "I'm so scared for my future" bullshit. It's nothing but hot air.
I don't see how her fans can read that stuff and still feel any sympathy for her.
And where are all of the paparazzi who constantly hound Kate (at least according to her)? Why aren't there pics of Kate with her "friends" going to dinner or leaving the restaurant. Or pics of Kate entering/leaving the hair salon?
Tate, I agree the dinner is a freebie. Kate grifts everything.
Thing is, you can't cry poor when you're busy getting everything for free. Poor, poor Kate, begging for freebies. Wah wah.
She wouldn't mention the specific Fig location or the staff without reason. Some sort of free ride again.
I also agree with Bill's Mom above. Something else is going on. She's far too calm right now overall. Pity.
It also shows how very insensitive she has been to her average demographic, always has been. She constantly brags about her travels and trendy dining and dashes to get hair extensions as if she has no clue that much of America has to dig into the coin jar just to dine out at the local restaurant let alone dash off to NYC to eat at some trendy expensive hotspot.
Did she and Steve have a nice dinner in the nyc
Olive & Figs again, big whoopeedoo, an expensive chain restaurant is all that is, gets very uneven reviews from locals. What's the matter Kreider, big important Stah like you couldn't get into Daniel, Per Se or even Morimoto's. Or were you trying to impress the folks over at Food Network studios near by? Sorry, they want likable people who CAN REALLY cook.
I was at the Apple Store nearby, typical Friday night with New Yorkers going about their business, nothing exciting. Just lines of people waiting to buy iPhone 4S.
Ah, I hate to see people leave. I read here between calls and I enjoy all but the trolling sheeple posts. I don't think anyone nitpicks Katie, dearest any worse then she did and does her mediocre husband and the 8. When we start on her breathing then we could possible start to equal her depths of gripping on the flaws of another.
And does that restaurant think her tweeting about them is a GOOD thing? So she boasts about her tweeter followers numbers while admitting many may be haters (though most check out as dummy accounts) Did they say, sure if you tweet how great we are free salad for you? You're not too bright Mr. restaurant owner, as supporting her, means alienating potential paying customers. I doubt her tween fans are going to showing up there to get a glass of water.
So, is Katie, the lucky 13th silent auction item for Steve Irwin benefit? I wait to see how that works for them. A big fat fail I bet.
I have never been that far to the east coast so please forgive my supposed ignorance here. What does she mean by meatpacking district? I am going to assume it's some upscale restaurant area of town?
Lake: Meatpacking district. A neighborhood in NYC that Kate was told was trendy so she likes to make sure we know it when she's there.
Kate is obviously so happy lately because she's just a few weeks away from another romantic getaway with Steve Down Under.
Call me dumb, but for a woman who whines she does not like the paps sure likes to point out where she is about 90% of the time here. Now that's not very smart of her end considering she needs security to feel safe. Yeah, sure Kate, go ahead and tell everybody where you are I'm sure it's safe...just keep telling yourself that dear. Truly sad I think.
So my guess is it's either a trendy place to eat, or it's not and she believed it? I'm sure there are plenty of other...perhaps better places to have a written-off with friends but not buying it dinner.
The thing is, everything and anything that could ever be 'nitpicked' about Kate has already been said. And said and said and said ad nauseum.
I think this blog is just losing its' steam. When there is nothing 'new' to complain about with Kate (big deal, she's proven to be a liar AGAIN), bloggers start complaining about each other.
I have a feeling Falling With A Brick is only the first of many bloggers who have had enough.
JMO
If you're not happy with what is being discussed, suggest another topic, add something interesting to the conversation.
What's really not going to be okay with me is to constantly complain about what is being talked about or constantly insulting the blog or posters here. It's supposed to be fun not a place to feel like you or what you want to talk about is not good enough.
Happy to know to look at a craft store for hay you can actually move. Never thought of that. I can't budge those bales an inch. Horse, move thyself to the bale, it ain't coming to you!
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Not hay, STRAW blocks. Small blocks of STRAW. Your horse won't like the straw very much, I'm afraid. The craft store doesn't sell hay.
Well, we've talked about dogs. We've discussed Amanda Knox. Some even talked about what they are watching on tv though people didn't like that.
So....how about we talk about, say, our family history? Oh, already have. What about sharing good recipes? Again, done.
I have no good ideas. buh-bye and thanx for the memories Admin. :) You did a great job here.
Maybe Jason had a Groupon to the restaurant tonite, Snark. Or he knows someone there because it's strange for them to take a $15 taxi ride when there are nicer restaurants near where the salon is by the Flatiron/Gramercy area. Unless Kreider is going clubbing again. But isn't she embarrassed to be sitting next to some really pretty young things on a Friday nite?
You're welcome, Well. Sorry we bore you.
Lake, IMO Fig and Olive is sort of one of those places that is so trendy that it suffers from its own trendiness. I.e. not cool anymore since everyone knows about it now. Naturally that's exactly the kind of place Kate would love.
But isn't she embarrassed to be sitting next to some really pretty young things on a Friday nite?
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Doubt it. She thinks she is one of them.
Where are you all finding these new "fall family photos"? I saw a few pics somewhere the other day but no one was posing or anything. Most of the kids looked pretty unhappy but Kate had a big smile on her face. It was also very obvious that a hairdresser had styled Alexis' and Kate's hair and someone had done Kate's makeup. I'm betting that the photos are going to be on a magazine cover. Good Housekeeping, maybe?
I think the bitch has a lot of nerve bragging about her pricey dinner at the restaurant in NYC's "meatpacking district" when she complains about how poor she is all of the time. I don't care if the NYC trip/meal was comped or not. Kate was bragging about it and rubbing her twitter followers' nose in it.
I agree with those of you who think that Kate has got something brewing somewhere. I don't know if it's a media job or not but it's something that's keeping Kate pretty happy right now.
As for her yelling at the kids, at what point in their life has she NOT yelled at them? Those kids look unhappy 99.9% of the time when they're with her. That bitch is making their life a living hell. One can only hope that they have a soft place to fall at Jon and Ellen's place because their life with Kate is pure hell.
Fig and Olive. Someone upthread said it is a chain restaurant. If there are several of them in NYC,
then Kate is being specific about which one she dined in. Maybe hoping some photographer would read her tweet and find her right around the corner going to the next trendy spot?
Fidosmommy, there are 3 of them in NYC, all in Manhattan serving the same small plates, that's why I called it a "chain restaurant". The one where she was at is near some clubs that used to be cool. I know that an amazing European Boutique hotel called Dreams opened up near by with amazing pool on the roof and bar area last month. I only know about it because my company was asked to bid on some custom furnishings inside back in April. NYC paps are not lazy or stupid like Chris Watts, her shots not worth anything. If she's so desperate to be photographed, she should go downtown where OccupyWallStreet is, now that's where the excitement was tonite.
There's at least one in L.A. too. I hate when restaurants become chains like this, sucks the cool right out of it.
If she's so desperate to be photographed, she should go downtown where OccupyWallStreet is, now that's where the excitement was tonite.
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Kate: Wall Street? Is that the proverbial place where marathoners have to "push through" to keep going? Where exactly is the spot they "hit" to get their second wind? Let's go there! Ooooh,
I've got my heels....I just need some ice cream cones and I'm good.
She would fit right in down there. A lot of them (not all) haven't a clue what they're talking about.
Ah, that's probably true.
But wouldn't Kate be put to good use as one of the "human microphones"?
Besides, it's CAMPING. Blankets and sleeping bags only. NO TENTS!
I'm told there is some pretty good food being cooked up out there in the park. Kate could help
fix that, since she loves to cook.
Oh yes, there are so many things Kate could contribute to Occupy Wall Street!
Thanx to the super-sleuths @ pressi's! Cascadian Farm FB moderators have been busy deleting postings because of their PR/marketing faux pas. BIG mistake!
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This really beats it all. You send free cereal to a millionaire (Kate Gosselin) crying poor who the next day goes to NYC for $$$ hair coloring, probably with a fake body guard. Where are your PR people. You are loosing customers big time. (Twiitter send from JasonHueman at Ted Gibson Salon in NYC
@Kateplusmy8 can you tweet a pic if ur new color for @Glambr ???) What are you thinking!!!!!!
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Seems as if they were busy yesterday deleting other posters who questioned their practice of sending free cereal to a grifter. Everybody's wondering, is Cascadian Farm ALSO sending free cereal to food banks? How about offering free cereal to working moms in NEED? Or how about offering a free box to loyal customers? Wonder HOW they plan to address this PR nightmare?
Interesting to read C-atie & maybe Steve are in NY for the weekend, eating dinner with 'freinds' @ a high-end restaurant, tweeting/bragging about their evening. Remember, she also went to see Jason, her hair stylist for her monthly bleached blonde touchup.
WHY should anyone feel sorry for her? Oh, she lost her TLC contract-job-$$-pimpin' the G8 gig. She's freaking out b/c NO ONE has offered the media dream job she covets. For someone who complains about $$, she's been busy spending $$. Whose account is she draining for her upkeep?! Hummmmmm
Wonder HOW they plan to address this PR nightmare?
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Why, ask Kate to address it on Twitter, of course! She'll explain it and that will make it all better. In fact, she'll be so good at it, we'll all be heading to the health food stores and buying her organic cereal.
She truly is unbelievable, isn't she?
You know, this happens from time to time here and there's a word for it, but I can't think of it now.
It's called "flouncing."
New post up. I skimmed and didn't see it posted, I apologize if it has been if I missed it. I started new meds yesterday and I'm fuzzy headed while I adjust.
There were no pictures with it. I read the last line of this post only and someone really needs to talk to Kate about her hyperbole. She is like the boy who cried wolf only with thank yous. She exaggerates so much all the time, I do not believe her about anything. I'm sure the kids liked the new bikes, but what kids does nothing but spend hours thanking someone for their gift? It's unnatural behavior and anyone that has kids knows that. If her kids really ARE doing that, something very unnatural is happening in their development.
Funny Kid Sayings!!!
I am constantly laughing at my kids’ view of the world and how they express themselves verbally! Sometimes funny, sometimes creative, and sometimes they melt my heart!
Here are a few of their latest and greatest!
1. The other night after bringing up the requested four bales of hay from the barn with his brothers, Aaden wanted to tell me something he saw in the barn. He started his sentence like this: “Mommy, when we were down in the barn, getting hay loafs….”
So so cute! Was he thinking of MEAT loaf? Lol!
2. When asked how Alexis remembered something, she replied, “I don’t know. It was somehow stapled to my brain!”
Very creative! Wish I could staple stuff to MY brain!
3. On the highway, coming home from school activities the other night, I had Aaden and Cara in the car with me. We passed a large Tyson truck filled with white chickens in cages. I said “oh look at the chickens!” and proceeded to drive next to the truck so they could get a close up look. Then I saw the Tyson name and said “ohhhhh and you don’t want to know where they are going!” But they did want to know! So I told them and Aaden exclaimed “Ohhhh no! I wish I could take over them and take their place for them!!!”
That melted my heart, and I told him so!:(
4. When we got our bikes home last Friday night, I readied them for the kids to ride in the dark, because I had PROMISED to let them ride them as soon as we got home! As the kids were waiting patiently as I removed the plastic, one bike at a time, Joel walked up to Collin and said “hey Collin, is that one your bike?” And Collin replied in a happy passionate way saying “Yes it is! Isn’t it bee-u-tee-ful???”
Such thankful amazing kids! That made my day (not to mention the four thousand thank-you’s I received every hour on the hour for two days from all 8 for their bikes!)
xoxo
K8
Fig and Olive has restaurants in Hollywood Ca also in Singapore...NY has 4 or 5. Trendy but not that expensive. Every dish is prepared with ex virgin olive oil. The wine list is very impressive at least 30 varietals from France, Italy and Spain plus champagne. Looks like Kate's fav boxed wine is not on the list...pity!!!!
On the highway, coming home from school activities the other night, I had Aaden and Cara in the car with me. We passed a large Tyson truck filled with white chickens in cages. I said “oh look at the chickens!” and proceeded to drive next to the truck so they could get a close up look. Then I saw the Tyson name and said “ohhhhh and you don’t want to know where they are going!” But they did want to know! So I told them
Wow, Mother of the Year award here. Maybe I am strange, but I don't really think kids this young need to have graphic detail about stuff like this. Particularly when they have pet chickens of their own.
If the kids had asked on their own that would be one thing, but baiting them with the "you don't want to know where they are going" seems very age inappropriate and sick.
@ HI 50 - I really don't understand why you always write "C-atie" in reference to Kate.... Would you care to explain it?? I have seen many other versions of Khate, K8, Kart etc, but I don't understand yours!
Makes me smile to think how grateful the kids are when they pay for everything handed to them. WOW and four thousand thank you's to boot. What a sick b!tch!!
@Huh? C-atie has EARNED so many heinous descriptors & combinations of her name it's hilarious. Ok, there is a word I don't like to use to describe a NASTY b!tchy woman BUT C-atie has definitely earned this name. Non-fans disgusted with Monster Dearest use it freely in other blogs. This is an easier version I use so C-atie feels extra special (snarking). Hahaha!
C@*t = female genital
-atie = Katie
Krawford = Kreider aka Joan Crawford
Hence, C-atie Krawford aka Monster Dearest aka KHate aka etc, etc, etc
good Morning 15 Minutes and Happy Saturday to you all.
a couple of months ago when Admin had her fun contest on why NOT to watch the Katie Gosselin Hates Her Children Show, I received a nice $40 gift certif for Target Online. I purchased some kitchen towels and dishcloths for a USO family.
Yesterday in the snail mail, I received an envelope from my local USO. Inside was another sealed envelope addressed only to "Kind Donor". Inside that was a hand written note on a card thanking me/us specifically for the kitchen towels, plus a few more sentences of how well their soldier is doing.
I dont know about you guys, but I was so touched that I cried. What graciousness! Just thought I would let you know this final piece of it all.
(Yes I know where the gift certif came from and I also know I will now be called names, again, on another blog. But this soldier's family doesnt care and neither do I.)
OK I went and looked at these fall photos. Dont really see the kids.
I know everyone is talking about Kart smiling, but I didnt see any smiles, not even near-smiles, all I saw was her deliberatly baring her veneers. To me it looks like she is doing a dental advert for glow in the dark plastics, all the while growling instructions to the children through those gritted teeth.
I forgot to check for the I I in between her eyes though, so perhaps she had a botox touch up again. She did have on double sets of false eyelashes, however. Yep, just a regular, broke, all alone mom who has so much Sunday stress she must lash out at children in parkinglots. I havent worn fake eyelashes in 30 years - how long do they take to apply?
If this were someone near my real life, I would have cut her off long time ago. What does she offer to a friendship, or to any relationship? She is loud and flamboyant, she cant shut up about herself,she flaps others away with her hand rather than listen to a word they say, she has no thoughts or compassion for others, she is an abusive mom, she takes huge advantage of others, and she lies at least 10 times a day.
Seriously, Kate: What do you offer to the planet earth or to the human race? Do not pull the "I am raising 8 productive children" because you have half DESTROYED 8 productive people and you are hell bent on finishing the job to prove you are in control and that will never change. So... what positive purpose do you serve on the planet for your fellow humans?
(oh wait - you have brought a bunch of intelligent women together on a blog who have a lot of fun bashing your annoying ass. HEHE. well, that is something I guess.)
Playing catch up on all of the posts.
I just saw a post on Preesi's site re: NE Magazine- Kate reportedly went to a Chinese restaurant on October 14, took one kid inside with her, leaving the other kids in the van for 15 minutes. A local was taking pictures of the van, and Kate ran out of the restaurant, demanded the local destroy the pictures, and the local told her that was not happening. LOL
She then moved the van closer to the restaurant and took all of the kids inside.
My question is- If you are a mastermind, don't you get the kids' orders in advance so you can call it in and then pick it up. I have rarely, if ever, waited 15+ minutes to pick up an order I placed in advance by phone.
Lots of great posts. For those annoyed by comments, there is this X in the upper right hand corner, which allows you to leave the site if you don't like the content.
Call me suspicious but I agree that Kate most likely did not pay for the bikes. May have been a freebie or a barter for the photos. I hope to God they don't have training wheels.
As for all of the other freebies- Cereal, ipads, etc... I think we only know a small portion of the grifting going on, as they are noted on twitter, etc.... I can only imagine what else goes on through her manager. What ever happened to Giving Back Kate...? What a farce.
I will say that the recent photos with her kids are very telltale. She is not faring well and recently has been caught several times yelling at her kids in photos in public since the show was cancelled. I can only imagine what she does behind closed doors.
One of Kate's Twitter more recent comments said that she was used to being a Stay at Home Mom one week, and a Traveling Mom the next week. I clearly remember this as it was after the show was cancelled, and she was clearly itching to travel.
BTW- How many of you are unemployed with 8 kids and have managed to travel to Wyoming (with a stay at a luxury hotel with a body guard... sorry, I meant Road Manager) and now to Australia, within months of being fired/cancelled...
In my opinion, this woman really does not want to be around her kids and can only handle them in small doses, with help! Jon has them 3 weekends a month, they are in school full time, she is not working, so her comparing herself to other mothers is such a crock.
Well said Gosselin8ComeFirst! Reading your post reminded me of another freebie she received. Those RED heels she wore awhile back. She was actually photographed in them wearing a pair of short shorts. Her fans kept telling her how cute they were. She tweeted they were a "gift" from her friends at Guess(clothing line). I was stunned she would even step out of the house wearing that! Yikes!
Gosselin8ComeFirst said ". . .can only handle them in small doses, with help!"
This reminds me of Kate, back pre-divorce, disparaging Jon because he "needs help" taking care of all 8 kids while she was off gallivanting with her boobyguard on her book promotion and public "speaking" tours. Of course, the twins were 7 - 8, the tups were 3 - 4 and he couldn't handle all the child care plus household duties all alone, so he's somehow inferior, but she's super mom because she takes care of 11 year olds and 7 year olds WITH help. What a piece of work our Katie is.
I've been away a few days and am catching up on the posts. Poor Cara looks like she just wants to sink into the pavement in these parking lot pix. She's always been quieter and less outgoing than Mady, but she just seems to shrink more into herself every day. It breaks my heart when I compare her today with the bright, smiling, engaging child she was at 5 and 6. All girls get moody and changeable when the enter the tween and teen years, but not 100% of the time. Kate doesn't seem to recognize, or care, that she's witnessing HER child becoming morose and depressed. Mother of the Year? Not in this lifetime, not on this planet.
Admin -- personally, I enjoy the OT threads and posts. If something doesn't interest me, I just skip right over it. Most of the time, though, I enjoy the insights and anecdotes of most of the posters here. We are an interesting mix of personalities and experiences, and we all have something worthwhile to contribute. I could do without the kamakazi (sp?) sheeple, though.
Dwindle -- how sweet that you got a thank you note for your USO gift. If I didn't say it then, thank you for using your prize to make life a bit better for someone in need. Just ignore the name callers on the fan blogs. They wouldn't know true charity if it bit them on the ass.
readerlady
Dwindle that's so lovely to hear. It doesn't matter the drama behind the gift card, what matters is a nice family was helped out. A family that really deserves it.
I'm not sure what to think of Chinese restaurant-gate. To me it all depends on a bunch of factors, including how far away Kate really was from the van and if she keep it in eyesight the entire time. In some cases with kids this age, it's safer for them to wait for you rather than try to drag eight hyper cranky kids across a busy parking lot.
I understand the person taking photos was doing it to expose wrongdoing and I don't think people should be discouraged from doing that. Even so I do have to say though I think any mother would find it extremely creepy to walk outside and discover some stranger snapping photos of your kids. Eek!! I hope that would make any mother think twice about making their kids remain in the spotlight with exposure through photoshoots and blogs and twitter.
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I'm not sure what to think of Chinese restaurant-gate. To me it all depends on a bunch of factors, including how far away Kate really was from the van and if she keep it in eyesight the entire time. In some cases with kids this age, it's safer for them to wait for you rather than try to drag eight hyper cranky kids across a busy parking lot.
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I think that leaving a group of kids this young unsupervised in a vehicle in a parking lot is just asking for trouble, especially when at least a few of them are known to have self-control and impulse issues, just like their mother.
Is it hard to go places with eight kids? You betcha, but that's exactly what this jerk signed up for, very deliberately.
This is just another in a long line of irresponsible decisions made by those poor kids' mother.
This was not a NECESSARY choice. She could cook at home, she could make dinner with prepared meals from the freezer, she could have her housekeeper feed the kids, she could move somewhere where delivery is available.
Like I said, it all depends. Some parking spots are right up against the restaurant so you might never have to step 10 feet away from your kids.
They're not infants, their kids. Maybe they were contentedly playing with their iPads. If Kate were only a few feet away what's the worst that could happen? She could be at their sides in two seconds flat, no different than bringing your kid in the restaurant and having them stand 10 feet away and look at the fish tank.
I just need more information is all I'm saying, I don't think it's fair to say it's never okay to leave your kid alone in the car. For instance I see parents all the time leave kids in the car at the gas station. Because it only takes a few minutes and you're right there all the time. That is the SAFE thing to do rather than have a child underfoot at a busy gas station.
Enough already said: The thing is, everything and anything that could ever be 'nitpicked' about Kate has already been said. And said and said and said ad nauseum.
I think this blog is just losing its' steam. When there is nothing 'new' to complain about with Kate (big deal, she's proven to be a liar AGAIN), bloggers start complaining about each other.
I have a feeling Falling With A Brick is only the first of many bloggers who have had enough.
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I agree. She's a fading 'star' and she's also a narcissist which means she will never change so this kind of chatter could go on for a long time. Narcissists are incapable of changing so Kate will always be entitled, selfish, rude, envious, abusive, a pathological liar and a master manipulator. So you will continue to see these kinds of stories about her because she will never admit that she's at fault for anything.
I take comfort in knowing she try likely will never work in entertainment again so she will disappear completely soon enough.
When my child was a baby, I went into a gas station to pay for gas, right there in our little, rural, super-safe little town.
I could see the car from inside the station, but there was a lot of junk (food, ads, etc.) in the way, and, of course, I was distracted while waiting for the customer ahead of me, and while paying.
When I got back to the car, a woman pulled her car up to me, and told me that I should never leave my baby in the car like that. She said that the baby could be gone in the blink of an eye.
At first, I thought that was crazy. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized that THAT WOMAN had been circling the gas station with some kind of strong investment in that baby.
SHE could have been one of those people who thought my child looked like a tempting target.
That woman implied that I was the kind of mother who shouldn't have a child in the first place, and that she - a stranger - ought to have a baby, instead of me.
Unlike Khate, I realized that that kind of interest in my baby wasn't healthy.
What's Khate gonna do if one of her kids takes off while she's flouncing her stuff in the Chinese takeout place? How far across the parking lot is the kid going to get before Khate is back at the car to notice?
Should those kids really be unsupervised? What if all that happens is not that someone takes pictures of them, but a stranger sticks his or her head into the van and scares the kids to death? Is that OK?
Khate's made these kids into a walking (or sitting) zoo attraction - she's an idiot to leave them alone even for a few minutes. A stranger DID notice them, but fortunately only took pictures.
Kudos, HUGE Kudos to the local who refused to destroy the photos she took of the kids left alone in the van. It is SO refreshing to know that someone, anyone will stand up to this controlling wench and say NO. Now this person has photos she can actually show the police, if she so chooses.
And can Kate ever, maybe just once, shut up with the exaggerations. The kids thanked her 'thousands' of times. Please Kate. I know kids can be happy and grateful but 'thousands' of times. Yeah, not buying it.
I'm still amazed that she did not get her roots all dolled up BEFORE the family photo shoot rather than after. Those roots are glaring!
If you lock the car while you go in for two seconds to pay how is your baby put at risk? She's not. (Unless it's a hot day or other factors you didn't mention) Really, someone is going to run up to your car in broad daylight with other people there, break in with a crowbar, and snatch the baby? If they're willing to go that far, they would sooner snatch the baby right out of your arms. You have a far greater chance of hurting your baby by taking her out of the car, walking across a gas station with her in your arms, and paying. A number of freak things could happen--a gas fire, hit by a car, someone mugs you, you trip and drop the baby. When you are RIGHT THERE a few feet from the car and it's not hot, a car seat is often the safest place for a kid.
In any case, apples and oranges. That's a baby, these are seven year olds!
I think there is a fine balance between taking excellent, protective care of children, and smothering them. I don't see the Gosselin kids as loose cannons. Actually they seem pretty darn well behaved from most of the episodes I've seen. Kate always tries to paint this myth of out of control kids but it's really not true. They are also not the babies she makes them out to be. They are almost closer to eight years old than seven. IF, and this is a big IF, Kate was only a few feet away and could see the van the entire time and the kids were behaving inside, like watching a movie or on the iPad, I don't see the issue. Like I said, I don't know all the facts, I wasn't there.
Sure one of the kids COULD run out of the van. But one of the kids could also run out of the restaurant too! What's the difference?
Where are these infamous photos anyway? That might shed some light on things and explain the situation better.
Mimi, I also find it a bit bizarre the kids would constantly thank Kate. Obviously they aren't doing it a thousand times but sounds like they do it frequently.
It sounds to me less like they are grateful and more like they are just trying to keep Kate pacified. They are learning what buttons to push to keep her calm and happy and which ones set her off. Mady plays her like a fiddle. Mady knows exactly what to say to her.
I think they are APPEASING Kate and she's too dumb to realize it.
Also, still confused, why do the little kids get new bikes when it was CARA AND MADY'S BDAY?
She isn't the parent that feels bad for other siblings on a birthday and gives a consolation prize is she? Way to spoil the coddle the kid. Just so you know, Kate, they have a birthday too eventually.
Admin, I disagree about leaving kids in the car. It is amazing how quickly a child can be snatched when you turn your back. Someone that I know did that very thing and her child was kidnapped. In just a moment's time. Long story short, wrong place/right time for the kidnapper. The child was found, in its carseat on the side of the road where the guy had abandoned it a short while later. It happens in a split second and there is just no good scenario for leaving kids alone in a car. And of course Kate freaked out, but IMO she freaked out because she knew someone had rock solid film of her leaving those kids alone in a car and she can't have that. How many times have we heard her or Steve go up to someone and say 'destroy that film'. They think they make all the rules and everyone else just stands back and worships at the sheeple altar of Kate. Nope, not everyone gives in to that wench.
Admin, in the town where I live, it is against the law to leave children in a car unattended -- period. There are no exceptions. Even leaving them in a locked car is wrong IMO. So many things can go wrong. There were what, 7 or so kids in there? Knowing these kids propensities for fighting, that could get out of control quick, one of them could unlock a door and then anything can happen.
I know that sometimes you need to make a quick stop for something and the last thing you want to do is take all the kids in and out of the car and then have to tend to them in the store and you don't want to go home and then come back alone. But it's one of the things parents have to come to grips with early on -- you have young children and hard decisions pop up every day. This one was a stupid choice on Kate's part and someone took a picture and ruined Kate's day -- oh boo hoo. Stupid choices can lead to horrific consequences, and they do all the time to all kinds of people -- including the invincible Kate G.
The child was in a car seat, sounds like it was a little child. It all depends on the age for me. It's amazing how fast a child can be snatched right out of a Chinese restaurant too. Kids get snatched from all kinds of places whether they are in your car or whether they are with you. Had Adam Walsh's mother had him wait in the car while she shopped maybe he wouldn't have been kidnapped. Should she have, probably not, but proves the point that if someone wants to take your kid it won't matter where they are.
Don't get me wrong I do not think kids should be left in a car OUT OF YOUR SIGHT! I do think if you are A FEW FEET from the car, and your child is old enough, if you have the car in your sights at all times it may be okay, depending. It depends on the child too. Some seven year olds maybe can't control themselves to wait alone a few minutes, others can.
Unless you have your child tied to you, kids sometimes get snatched. But I've never heard of a child who was snatched from a locked car IN PLAIN SIGHT of their parents.
Like I said if someone is brazen enough to do that, they are brazen enough to rip your kid right out of your own arms anyway.
I think there's a danger of getting soooo paranoid because we watch too much news that we make kids feel anxious and smothered. At the end of the day, kidnappings are very rare, and you are far more likely to get into a serious or deadly accident taking your child with you, ironically.
AGAIN, not okay with leaving kids alone in the car! Am okay with leaving OLDER kids, perhaps even a seven year old, alone for a few minutes if you are A FEW FEET AWAY. This is no different than having your child a few feet away from you OUTSIDE the car.
For all I know Kate did not have her car in eye sight, was gone a very long time, and was very far from the car. This? Is def not okay with me.
I almost laughed at the comment about Kate taking Chinese dinner orders from the kids. We all know she would never ask the kids what they want. It's you get what you get and that's it. I doubt the kids has Ipads, not familiar with them and what kid of parental controls are available. They probably wouldn't have them in the car if they were coming from school (not allowed at school) It was probably Organic (snark) steamed broccoli and chicken. One or two orders divided by 8. Kate can even suck the fun out of take out Chinese. Probably doesn't even let them eat the fortune cookies or she would be "blogging" about their fortunes (make up according to her).
You know for a woman who complains she wants privacy, she sure does a heck of a job making her every movement well known. Who cares if she's awake and oh my goodness the drama queen she's ALIVE!
Mimi, what is meant by children in your law that says it's against the law to leave children alone in the car? Children, by law, is usually defined as under 18. It's against the law to leave a 17 year old in the car? That's absurd, they can drive! Heck, it's absurd for a 14 year old in my opinion. At what age do they say it's okay? 10? 13? And what is meant by alone? Can you buckle your child in then load the groceries or must you have them attached at your hip the entire time? For the folks that say never leave a child alone in the car, is that not leaving a child alone? This starts to get very ambigulous. I just don't see the difference between leaving a child in a car you can see for a FEW moments or having a child sit on a bench and wait for you for a few moments or having a child look at a fish tank in the restaurant while you pay for a few moments or any other scenarios where you are not hanging onto your child's risk in a death grip like a crazy paranoid person. I guess I'm more of the belief that some things are worth the TEENY TINY FREAK ACCIDENT risk of something bad happening in order for your child to feel like he has a tiny bit of freedom to explore the world, with you close by.
I don't see being a few feet from your car with an older child in it happily watching a movie as "stupid." But I have no idea if that was the case for Kate. It's Kate, so I doubt it.
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