Friday, October 7, 2011

Reality T.V. may finally be losing steam

After over a decade of bad singers and bug eating and sex and freakish families, reality television is disappearing from the line-up

This fall's ratings show a promising trend: scripted television. Only two reality shows managed to break into the top 20 rated primetime shows last week, Dancing With the Stars and The X Factor. The rest of the slots were filled with actors, plots, scripts, and made-up stories, as well as a few football games. Welcome back, writers, it's been too long.

http://www.zap2it.com/zap-weekly-ratings,0,2436061.htmlstory

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fidosmommy said...

RE: sloppy joes. Where I live - in mango country - they are not called sloppy joes at all. They are called "Wimpys". I know other places call them "loose meat sandwiches" (like Roseanne did on her show when she had that diner.)

When I moved here, we were talking about putting on a charity dinner and serving Wimpys. In my mind, Wimpys are hamburgers they sell in Europe. I was told they are made from horse meat, but I didn't know whether to believe that or not. Anyway, they wanted to make and serve Wimpys made with mangoes. Oh my. Once I understood the lingo, I was fine with their menu.

Ah, those regionalisms..........

Gimme said...

Who was the famous person that thought he was a runner and entered a marathon and was photographed in pitiful bad shape into the marathon and had to have medical assistance? The photo made headline news.

I must say from that photograph with the guy in Wyoming, it took her 2 years but she is way skinny now. If it is true the camera adds 10 pounds she is scary skinny. Just can't see why that would be such a high priority for a mother of 2 sets of multiples that lives and breathes so that she can do it all for her kids.

TLC ship is sinking said...

silimom said...Kate's Cart - If you google "Kate Gosselin Website" , the first hit that comes up is "gosselinfamilyfansite.blogspot.com/". In fact, there are no direct links/hits to her website.
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It's even worse, if you google "kate gosselin". A wikipedia page is the top result and her website doesn't show up on the first page of results.

There are ways to increase the SEO (search engine optimization) to make her website the top ranked in search results for anything 'kate gosselin' (or even gosselin). Some web hosting companies even provide SEO tools to help novices with this...or at least mine does. If Kate had an experienced person or team helping her with her site, they would know how to fix an issue like this. It seems like whoever is helping Kate with her site isn't very experienced at all based on what we've seen so far.

fidosmommy said...

Except that I don't recall June Cleaver ever exercising. :) She could learn from June; June was actually nice to her kids.

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I love June Cleaver. It took me awhile to warm up to Ward, but I always loved June!

There was a time when pushing the heavy vacuum daily, hand washing dishes, putting them back in the cupboard, dusting the entire public part of the house daily, gardening, toting laundry baskets up and down stairs, walking to the grocery store, etc. was considered plenty of exercise for women. It wasn't intense, but it was daily and it was constant movement. These
1950's women were usually plenty strong for what they needed to do.

Most were not interested in running marathons or spending huge blocks of time on themselves. What they did was usually for their families - preparing, cleaning, welcoming, comforting, disciplining, whatever was needed at the moment
or when people started getting home from school or work.

Blog Fan said...

Hippie Chick said...

http://career-advice.comcast.monster.com/in-the-office/workplace-issues/become-a-human-lie-detector/article.aspx?WT.mc_n=comcast802

How to detect & spot a liar. The "ums" & "ahs" caught my attention. Of course, it's not a surprise.
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What an interesting article, Hippie Chick. And so true about the "ums" and "ahs".

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

Yes, I was going to comment that she looks very thin in that Twitter photo from Wyoming. Click to enlarge it and you see her pants are hanging on her; she has no womanly shape at all.

Just me - thanks again for posting the recipes from her site. Of course, Khate has to call both recipes "Khate's....". No surprise there. Also, as everyone else mentioned, as soon as I saw the recipes, I thought they looked like Campbell's recipes that have been around for generations, especially the chicken and rice casserole. (I haven't bothered to even check online, though).

There remains absolutely NOTHING impressive or interesting about Khate. She can't even come up with an interesting recipe!

fidosmommy said...

Hi all..Yes I'm here.No need4worry,just have been focusing on stuff that I need2get done&my website!I promise I'll b back soon!miss u all

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The tweeties can all calm down now and climb down from their observation decks, searching for Kate.

This handwringing reminds me of a trip to Canada
my 2 sisters, our mom and I made one year. We had purchased a tariff proof bottle of hooch in the little store just over the Canadian border and were bringing it back to the US. Except, we paid in one place, and we were to pick up in another. We somehow missed the pick-up place and before we knew it, we were on the Ambassador Bridge headed for Michigan. Oops. So, once we got over to MI, one sister and I volunteered to walk back across the bridge to get the bottle of whiskey. Our mother balked, but away we went. What happened at the customs shop is a story in itself, but suffice it to say we got our booze and headed back. Our mother was beside herself with worry, wondering where we were, when we were coming back, wringing her poor hands. My sister who had stayed back with Mom was hooting and giggling at the whole thing and got a lot of mileage out of mimicking Mom.

Anyway, we were adults. We knew to watch out for traffic. We were not lost. But poor Mom was doing everything but calling out a helicopter to search for us.

I'm surprised Kate's fans didn't send out a search team to find her. She was GONE for SOOOO long! Kate! Report in! Kate! Yoo Hoo! Kate! Where ARE you?

TLC ship is sinking said...

Parent and Alumna said...Education, to Kate, is secondary in the whole scheme of things. What does this teach the kids?
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That school isn't important, sadly. Will they even want to go to college, if this is what Kate's teaching her kids about education?

It's sort of ironic because it seems like Kate put those kids in private school to receive the best education, yet she pulls them out for family trips that could be scheduled during school vacations.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

So poor, poor Katie is in Wyoming?

Let me guess, the entire trip was free.

She certainly could not have paid anything for it- after all, she is unemployed & broke...


Everyone should be broke like her.

Marie M. said...

Bringing home the bacon said

That would be one way to do it. But if a pack of bacon is a pound, then the cook could pretty much figure out that if the recipe calls for two packs of bacon, it means two pounds, and he/she could ask for two pounds if buying it from a market or butcher.

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Not really because some packs of bacon are a pound and some are 12 ounces, so when writing a recipe, you should state the exact amount.

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

Ha, it's funny that the Campbell's recipe is called "Cheesy Chicken and Rice Casserole" and Khate named "her" recipe "Kate’s Last Minute Cheesy Chicken and Rice Casserole". So, all she does is change a few things - like ALL of us do with recipes - and then renames it "her" recipe to bestow upon the sheeple and make them giddy with delight at her cooking brilliance.

Why can't she simply say something like over the years, I've modified that old classic Campbell's "Cheesy Chicken and Rice Casserole" recipe and this is how I usually make it for my family?

Besides that, if she really wants to share some good recipes with her sheeple, is that the best she can do? Please! She sucks at everything, she really does. No photos, either, Khate? Most recipe blogs have photos of at least the completed dish.

She clearly has not even spent ten minutes surfing the internet and all the wonderful mommy blogs that have great recipes, or any of the terrific blogs that people have just for recipes. Here's just ONE example of probably thousands of great recipe blogs:

For the Love of Cooking

Marie said...

You know, with Kate's portions we've seen her feed the kids I worry. She said herself she does not eat the same thing she makes them eat.

I grew up in a food controlled environment. Rules were that if we had company over you never ate more than one helping. Even if I don't live at home, going home my dad has increasingly gotten worse with his old age about food. He'll stare at you while you eat, he'll scoff, shake his head, ask you why you are eating again even if you know you ate 8 hours ago he believes you should still be full.

The way Kate is going I can't help but she problems in her kids future and it's terrible.

I don't live at home, but going home is always painful. I attend a local gym but to try and attain my father's idea of perfect body image I gave up years ago. I'm not fat but I feel fat. Kate's problem with image is going to without doubt destroy her kids someday, self-esteem at the very least. And she doesn't care or see it.

Westcoaster said...

Hmm, let's see, the twins special birthday weekend with their mother is to a place that their younger sibs have already gone - now that must make them feel good to finally get their turn. Does anyone else think that perhaps, since TLC paid for the other trips, that they might have had this in the works for the twins earlier this year, and it was already organized and paid for? Quite honestly, she just does not open her wallet that far does she? I think the tweet about having dinner with Kate Gosselin is a stretch - looks like the kid happened to be having dinner in the same dining room and got a picture, which is surprising since she keeps Steve around to make sure nobody get her picture.

The recipe thing - oh dear god, those are oldies but goodies as we all know and to actually have the nerve to post them as her new and exciting dinner ideas jsut makes me laugh. Or cry. Laugh is better. But she is feeding one casserole recipe to 8 growing children? Shame on her. And shame on her for not sitting down and eating real food with her children at dinnertime; the message she sends to them, especially her daughters, is awful. And she would be a whole lot healthier herself with something other than salad greens and egg whites in her diet. Her skin and hair already know that.

Just Me said...

Along with only making 1 casserole dish of food for 8 people (which btw, I looked at the serving size of the campbell's recipe because I was curious about that and it says serves 4), she mentions having leftovers on the "cheesy bacon surprise" recipe.

There is a reason those kids are "big eaters" and will eat whatever is put in front of them with gusto. They are starving.

Anonymous said...

And we all know that Kate's definition of "big eater" is a kid who wants 2 crackers instead of 1 and 4 grapes instead of 3.

readerlady

fidosmommy said...

The cupcakes in the birthday picture do not have the Georgetown Cupcakes "signature swirl" icing.
They probably came plain, and Kate smeared on some icing after defrosting them.

Do you suppose she licked the knife half way through, like she put the pastry bag tip to her mouth at Georgetown? Yuck.

Zoom in on the pic said...

Re: the pic of Kate and the fan in WY -- zoom in and you'll see Steve in the far back (talking to the guy's father? while his son is having his pic taken).

http://yfrog.com/oce8qwj

Dallas Lady said...

The kid who tweeted the pic was probably being unintentionally misleading when he said he had dinner with Kate. More likely they ate in the same restaurant, he asked for a pic, she said yes, he tweeted it.

And yeah, she's now scary thin. My husband once dropped too much weight severely restricting his calories and running a lot and at work they finally asked him if he was sick, like seriously sick. That's what made him realize he looked BAD and wasn't healthy.

That's how she looks. Very unhealthy, sick.

I still don't know for sure that Steve is with them, though it wouldn't surprise me if she paid him to go on this trip. God knows everything in the world flusters her, stresses her, freaks her out.

SeeSaw said...

I read here often (and enjoy it) but never post. But I'm a cook and have to comment on the Cheesy Bacon Surprise. With 4 Tablespoons of flour, 1 cup of milk and 16 ounces (2 pounds!) of parmesan cheese I think the surprise is that you make cement. That can't be correct. Yuck.

anger issues kate said...

Ok, so the purpose of Kate taking the twins to WY is cause? Is it something they could have did in PA? What is there to do in WY? Since they were just there a couple of months ago? As, I posted earlier, I think TLC paid for the trip, filmed it and will put it with a special for Xmas. The Roloffs, have not been off TV a year yet and they did a special already. TLC still owns her, till feb 2012 or it's in her contract to do specials till the kids are 18. I do hope NOT!

Tucker's Mom said...

Dallas Lady, Kate is officially a lollipop. Lordy Bee, those jeans are hanging off of her, but it's not surprising considering how long she's been severely restricting calories.
It was telling that her best friend, Jamie, felt compelled to bring up Kate's obsession with being skinny.
I *know* Kate thinks she's being healthy, but she's not. I hope she gets professional guidance and counseling for her poor body image.

Dallas Lady said...

I looked at the relflection of the two men in the pic. One is definitely not Steve, balding, too pudgy. The other one? I really can't tell.

Eh.

Her latest tweet is hilarious. I wasn't concerned, Kate.

Anonymous said...

SeeSaw said...
I read here often (and enjoy it) but never post. But I'm a cook and have to comment on the Cheesy Bacon Surprise. With 4 Tablespoons of flour, 1 cup of milk and 16 ounces (2 pounds!) of parmesan cheese I think the surprise is that you make cement. That can't be correct. Yuck.

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16 ounces is one lb., not two.

She's a momster said...

Mel said...

Also, the 'pack of this, and a sack of something else' directions, says to me she made it ONCE, or observed it being made, and couldnt replicate it if her life depended on it because she has no idea how it came together.

Agreed.

It's the same thing with the "mom duties." The reason we hear the same 4 things (laundry, cooking supper, running, & paying bills) over and over is that she DOESN'T do any of that stuff.

It's just how she waw it done once/ Or thinks it might be done. Or maybe she that's how she saw June Cleaver do it on tv once.

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I'm sorry Mel, but I see it completely differently. I think the only reason Kate talks about laundry, cooking dinner, paying bills and running is because that's ALL she's ever done and knows. She doesn't talk about "mom duties" like reading together at night, snuggling at bedtime, after school activities, school support, sleep-overs, giggles, bonding, family activities, etc because she never does them.

Kate thinks the mark of being a good parent is making a schedule and sticking to it and "masterminding" their lives down to the last detail. Unfortunately she's been so busy buying 'things' and 'memories' that she's forgotten to about family, individuality, love, family, togetherness, sharing, bonding, family, laughs, tears, confidence building, family, etc, etc. She doesn't have a clue what being a nurturing, loving, supportive parent is or does and she doesn't care because she is doing no wrong - she's a narcissist.

SeeSaw said...

Oops I was thinking 2 cups (and wrote pounds) Sorry. Still sounds like a lot, though. Thanks for the correction!

Carezee said...

SeeSaw. I love your comment about the cement surprise. That was hysterical. Did anyone notice in that photo how Kate's hands look like man hands? They remind me of the hands on that episode of Seinfeld. Her hands look too big for her body.

Insert Creative Username Here said...

For those of you who have made the "Cheesy Bacon Surprise", does the ingredient ratio sound corrrect to you? 1lb parm cheese, 1/2 lb chedder cheese, 1 lb bacon (or maybe 1/2 lb...not sure what size "package" she is picking up) for every 1 lb of pasta? That seems heavy on the cheese and bacon and little on the pasta.

And no offense...but Kate's so health-conscious (read: scared of food/fat), can we really believe that she serves her kids this? Even if she sneaks the veggies in there...this is still a once-and-a-while meal for health-conscious parents...not a weekly-rotation-meal.

Deep In The Heart Of Texas said...

There is a reason those kids are "big eaters" and will eat whatever is put in front of them with gusto. They are starving.

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I don't know how many times this has been discussed on here, but those kids are not starving! They very well may not stuff themselves at one meal, but rather eat smaller, frequent meals. Just because they don't eat a whopping amount at one sitting doesn't mean that they are starving. They may be starving for love and attention from their mother, but not from lack of food.
If you'd see how little my eight-year-old eats at one meal you'd swear he doesn't eat enough to keep him alive. But he eats frequently, until he is full, and he's very healthy, not undernourished and certainly not starving. A cheesy bacon surprise may be very filling and it could very well be that kids can't eat much of it at one sitting.

fidosmommy said...

A couple of random thoughts.

We used to comment that Kate got into the twins'
closets and stole their shirts. That was why they were so tight on her. Now we can snark that Kate has now taken over their jeans to prove how very petite she is. "See, and they're too BIG on me because I've got the sleekest bod on the planet!"

Second thought: The cute sayings from her kids Kate blogs about. How many mothers of 7 and 11 year olds are still this amazed that their children have senses of humor, are wry, etc.
It seems that Kate speaks to them so infrequently that every word out of their mouths
sounds like gold nuggets to her. By now, wouldn't most parents just smile, laugh and enjoy without broadcasting it to the neighborhood? I can see it when they are just toddlers, but at this age? I'm stymied.

fidosmommy said...

When the kids were having their puke fest on the deep sea excursion, one little boy was lying on the bench. His ribs were sticking out so far he looked horrid. I can't compare him to the victims of concentration camps, of course, but he looked scarily thin to me.

Tamara said...

I don't see how the kids have been all that spoiled. 90% of the material things go to Khate. The kids get the occasional toys, trips which 6 of them are too young to really remember and what else? Khate runs that house like it's an orphanage, or foster home where the foster mom only brings in kids for the cash. I just don't see them being spoiled.

Dwindle said...

Anonymous said... SeeSaw said...
I read here often (and enjoy it) but never post. But I'm a cook and have to comment on the Cheesy Bacon Surprise. With 4 Tablespoons of flour, 1 cup of milk and 16 ounces (2 pounds!) of parmesan cheese I think the surprise is that you make cement. That can't be correct. Yuck.

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16 ounces is one lb., not two.
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16oz in this case means cup measurement, not weight. Cheese that is grated or shredded is usually measured this way, not by weight.

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She goofed said...

Did you notice there was a glaring omission from both of Kate's recipes (not really Kate's recipes, but she's claiming them), one word that she generously sprinkles throughout all of her others?






ORGANIC
Where is the organic milk, organic cheese, organic vegies, organic chicken?

Tucker's Mom said...

Insert Creative Username Here said...
For those of you who have made the "Cheesy Bacon Surprise", does the ingredient ratio sound corrrect to you? 1lb parm cheese, 1/2 lb chedder cheese, 1 lb bacon (or maybe 1/2 lb...not sure what size "package" she is picking up) for every 1 lb of pasta? That seems heavy on the cheese and bacon and little on the pasta.
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The ratios are very off. Not enough bechamel sauce because the milk needs to be quadrupled. Given that, the amount of cheese is ok.
As posted above, this is a recipe for quick cement, and one box of pasta is simply not enough for 8 children.
The directions are a mess. If you were not familiar with making a roux, and bechamel and mornay sauces, this would be a disaster!
I really wonder if this is the level that her Love is in the Mix cookbook was written at. Zondervan or whoever may publish it ought to know it needs a lot of work. Just the fact that Kate purports to have written a whole cookbook, by goodness, you'd think she has the recipe writing down by now. It's so bad, something doesn't ring true.

Insert Creative Username Here said...

SeeSaw said... I read here often (and enjoy it) but never post. But I'm a cook and have to comment on the Cheesy Bacon Surprise. With 4 Tablespoons of flour, 1 cup of milk and 16 ounces (2 pounds!) of parmesan cheese I think the surprise is that you make cement. That can't be correct. Yuck.

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Thanks for pointing that out, Seesaw! I noticed that too! The ratios have to be off...

koopdedoo said...

SeeSaw, there was another pound of cheese in that recipe, wasn't there...gouda or cheddar?

Cement in the intestines, maybe!

koopdedoo said...

(ok, it was another 1/2 to 3/4 pound of a different variety of cheese....)

Friend In Pennsylvania said...

RE: sloppy joes. Where I live - in mango country - they are not called sloppy joes at all. They are called "Wimpys". I know other places call them "loose meat sandwiches" (like Roseanne did on her show when she had that diner.)

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I thought that loose meat sandwiches, ala Roseanne, were just that - loose meat (large stringy pieces and drippings). Sloppy Joes are beef with barbecue sauce, which is what makes them sloppy. Here, we call them barbecues (browned finely chopped beef, mixed with ketchup, a little vinegar, dry mustard and brown sugar)

Funny said...

I called them Sloppy Jane's to make my little guy laugh. He's in his teens now and probably doesn't even know they are generally called Sloppy Joe's.

SeeSaw said...

I know someone said it before but for someone who constantly promotes healthy, organic eating that recipe is pretty fatty. Although my grandmother (PA Dutch) probably would have added the bacon fat, too, for flavor!

Tucker's Mom said...

SeeSaw said...
I know someone said it before but for someone who constantly promotes healthy, organic eating that recipe is pretty fatty. Although my grandmother (PA Dutch) probably would have added the bacon fat, too, for flavor!
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I'm under the impression that Kate cooks for the kids and makes either a salad or eggs for her.

Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...

I zoomed in on the photo and it's hard to tell whether that's Steve or not next to the guy with his arms folded across his chest. For all we know, Steve's the one taking the picture for the kid. As I said earlier today, from the guy's twitter page, it seems that he must have just bumped into Khate in that restaurant in WY and asked to take a pic with her, (he tweeted that he's on a hunting trip with his father and that they arrived in WY on Saturday afternoon to begin hunting Sunday morning).

As far as that recipe and the parmesan cheese, even if she used a high quality parmesan cheese one cup of parmesan will give you a VERY salty dish!

Also, that part about using cheese she had left over from party platter and froze sounds gross to me. First of all, when's the last time Khate would have had a "party platter"? I bet it was left over from the craft service table the last time TLC was there filming (day of the People Mag shoot?). So, the cheese sat out on a platter for hours and then she froze it, only to defrost it and use it later in a recipe? Sorry, I'm not wasteful at all with food, but that sounds disgusting to me. We all know how cheese platters get when left out for a few hours. Also, frozen cheese is not the same. Yuck to the entire messed up recipe!

Hey Khate, here's one more thing you suck at - cooking!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (See, we can all hold down the exclamation key sometimes!!)

Marie said...

If she's broke how did she afford the trip? I give it six months to see where Kate will end up because one of two things will have here I think.

One, if in six months she has no job offers, it will mean she was lying about having things lined up or in the works. And two, it will mean if she isn't financial really strapped by then, she lied about being broke now.

If she does go back to work, as a nurse, who would honestly hire her?! What does she think she can walk into a potential job offer and the senario I imagine will go like this:

"Hi, I'm Kate but you already know that. I, um, used to work as a nurse, ya know. So I think I'd be pretty good for what you're looking for. I have to go back to work because I am broke, I really, really need this job to be able to support my 8, count 'em 8 kids! Just, um, when I get the job, I don't want to be bothered with people too much because I get enough of that at home. But I'd love to beable to boss people around because I'm like so good at giving people instructions and organizing things!!! Remember I'm Kate, yeah, Kate Gosselin and I used to be on TV which I'll go back to this is just a filler job so my kids don't starve or have to leave their house or school because my exhusband doesn't make enough and I'm the sole provider for my 8 kids."

a coincidence is not the same as an accident said...

Carezee, YES! kate does have the Seinfeld "man hands" :-)

Anonymous said...

kate looks nice in the WY photo. as in her hair looks professionally done. when left to her own devices her hair looks a lot drier. i wonder what she did that day that called for a professional hair/makeup. please note i'm just assuming..not stating anything i consider fact.

EM

Anonymous said...

i can't knock kate's dinners because im sure the kids enjoyed eating something filling.
that being said why does she have to act like she 'came up' with the recipes. who HASNT made either of those.

EM

anger issues kate said...

Oh, Kate is very clever, and using her Nursing skills(learning about nutrition). After reading the posts here about the food Kate makes and how that is not enough food for 8 kids and as one person said here that the kids are starving and will eat what ever is put in front of them. Kate thinks she has solved the problem of children not eating food put in front of them. But she has, she just figure out nutrition wise that just giving the kids, just enough food, no snacks or limiting the portion of the snacks like: 5 chips instead of 10 the portion on the package says. This makes the kids very hungry all the time, that is why the kids drank the milk in one episode as if they get none, eat all the food on their plate, no complaining. How many of you moms out there, had trouble getting your kids to eat, some food or all foods, or say I don't like this or that. Kate never has that problem cause she under feed her kids. Never has to listen to them complain or not eat their food. As for the lunches, poor kids tried to not eat what Kate gave them and had it the next day or until it was spoiled. And I would not be surprised if she gave it to them for dinner. Yes, just like in Mommie Dearest. The Gosselin 8 never complained about any food (on the shows)ate all of it. How many kids you know do that? What's the old phrase: eat what is put in front of you or you get nothing! As for Kate's weird eating, she would never make it in a marathon.

fidosmommy said...

One of these days I'm going to make one of Kate's recipes exactly how she has it written and see about texture and taste. If I do, I'll be sure to write an honest review here. here. If it's good, I'll say so.

Friend In Pennsylvania said...

that being said why does she have to act like she 'came up' with the recipes. who HASNT made either of those.

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Raising my hand here. You've made the bacon surprise? Has it been published in a cookbook or on the internet? You mean, gasp, she copied it?

I've never made the Campbell's cheesy chicken, or her bacon surprise. I don't have a craving for either one. Make me some good chicken and waffles, though, and I'm there.

Marie said...

Sadly my parents was a lot like Kate with food and proportions. If for breakfast I had cereal and I didn't finish it, she would wrap it, milk in the bowl and all and put it in the fridge. The next morning I had to eat the soggy cereal. If I wasted any bit of it, we were by now means poor she hit me. That was her answer for everything was to hit you whatever you had done wrong.

IF we didn't eat what she cooked for dinner we either went hungry or she would save it and we had to eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner until we would eat it. Even if we had been sick, when your appetite is so little that was the rule.

So, for saying we have never heard the kids complain, it is very possible Kate holds that type of reasoning over their heads and eventually you learn to eat what is put in front of you or go without whether you like the food or not.

Anonymous said...

Dwindle said...
Anonymous said... SeeSaw said...
I read here often (and enjoy it) but never post. But I'm a cook and have to comment on the Cheesy Bacon Surprise. With 4 Tablespoons of flour, 1 cup of milk and 16 ounces (2 pounds!) of parmesan cheese I think the surprise is that you make cement. That can't be correct. Yuck.

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16 ounces is one lb., not two.
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16oz in this case means cup measurement, not weight. Cheese that is grated or shredded is usually measured this way, not by weight.

:))

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I'm a proficient cook and am aware of that. It doesn't change the fact that 16 ounces does not equate to 2 pounds.

Mel said...

I'm sorry Mel, but I see it completely differently. I think the only reason Kate talks about laundry, cooking dinner, paying bills and running is because that's ALL she's ever done and knows. She doesn't talk about "mom duties" like reading together at night, snuggling at bedtime, after school activities, school support, sleep-overs, giggles, bonding, family activities, etc because she never does them.

You know, I think you're right. Those 4 things are what she thinks a good mom does. Not all that other new age kind of stuff.

Although I still don't think she herself does laundry or cooks; she only "masterminds" those tasks.

Marie said...

fidosmommy said...

fidosmommy said...

One of these days I'm going to make one of Kate's recipes exactly how she has it written and see about texture and taste. If I do, I'll be sure to write an honest review here. here. If it's good, I'll say so.
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As long as your know you can chew cement.

Mel said...

Most were not interested in running marathons or spending huge blocks of time on themselves. What they did was usually for their families - preparing, cleaning, welcoming, comforting, disciplining, whatever was needed at the moment or when people started getting home from school or work.

How true. That's exactly how I remember my mom - always preparing for what people who were coming home were going to need. Man, I miss my mom.

I wonder if Kate's mom did all that stuff, too, but Kate missed the nuances of that.

Just like she thinks that because she was on someone's show once she thinks that they're now "friends".

fidosmommy said...

As long as your know you can chew cement.

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Can't figure this out....sorry.

DannysSister said...

I'm a proficient cook and am aware of that. It doesn't change the fact that 16 ounces does not equate to 2 pounds.
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And the original poster explained she meant to write 2 cups, which is a gross amount of parm for so little pasta I've had a cheese/bacon/pasta dish but those amounts of hers are wrong if you want a dish that would rate even 9 on the starving Gosselin kid scale. As if they would dare to rate mommy dearest a score under 10. Whose mother would ask for a scorecard for each meal? Some left over issue from DWTS that she needs high scores because she's just a great mother? Weirdo. I'd bet the only cards the kids get are 10s to hold up for mom's masterpiece meal.
I wondered about that Cheesy Rice dish and it's even on the can of store brand cream of chix soup. I think frozen veggies are gross. If it's my turn to cook I sub out the frozen for fresh, it's not like it takes any time to chop a head of broccoli. Really with those cheap old casseroles what does she do all day? Years of her bragging about the great organic home made meals she slaved over and these are what she slaps up on that website. Tsk, tsk.

Anonymous said...

DannysSister said...
I'm a proficient cook and am aware of that. It doesn't change the fact that 16 ounces does not equate to 2 pounds.
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And the original poster explained she meant to write 2 cups

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I know that. My response was not directed at the OP. I simply was pointing out that the way cheese is measured in cooking has nothing to do with the fact that 16 ounces doesn't equal 2 pounds. It's really not a big deal.

fidosmommy said...

I'm afraid the recipe could have 12 pounds of
beer cheese and fried chicken feet and not be any worse than it sounds.


I'm sorry, but would cauliflower really enhance
a baked chicken dish? Sliced carrots and little tiny broccoli florets I understand, but cauliflower? Maybe others would find it tasty but I don't get this at all.

Mel said...

Interesting how different everyone's perspective of their childhood is.

I have a brother who is much younger than the rest of us siblings. For reasons unrelated to me, I went to therapy once a week with him for a year when he was about 35 years old. Because I loved him, and wanted what was best for him, and if this is what it took, this is what it took.

It came up how he felt neglected by mom & dad. The reason? The other brothers got to be in Boy Scouts, and he didn't. I got to be in band and he didn't.

He had other similar examples, which to me seemed minor. I thought it was more we got this, but he got that. He didn't see it that way.

It just made me so furious that he couldn't see past it, that finally one day I called the other siblings and asked each one: How do you feel about your childhood? Are there things you feel that brother #4 was favored in that you weren't?

Well, yes there were, as a matter of fact. Me and brothers #2 and #3 worked outside jobs from age 14 on. Our wages paid for clothes, lunches & other living expenses that one might expect a parent to pay for. But we were poor and this is what you did to help out the family.

Brother #2 really wanted to play football but couldn't cuz he had to work. (Brother #4 never had a job during high school because there was more parental income then. He got to be on the football team, and other sports teams, which none of us got to do.)

We all had to pay for our own college. (Parents paid for brother #4's college; they had more money by then, & none of us begrudged him that...too much.)

Yes, we got to be in Girl/Boy Scouts/band, and brother #4 didn't... I honestly don't know why not. Maybe Brother #5 never explicitly expressed an interest the way we did (I had to lobby hard for band, cuz they couldn't afford an instrument. They ended up borrowing something from an elderly auntie. And I paid for my own better instrument later, after I started working. Which Brother #4 wasn't aware of, it came out.)

On the other hand, brother #4 got to make several flying vacations, alone with the parents, as an early teen. (We other kids never went alone anywhere with the parents... we went as a family unit if we went anywhere, which we mostly didn't.)

I never flew until many years after I was married. I never had my parents to myself after I was 14 months old.

Brother #2 & I were given to an Aunt & Uncle to live with for two years for a reason that is unknown to this day. How do you think this makes us feel? Brother #4 was never given away for a few years, and the reason never explained to him.

There are all kinds of other examples, where we got this, but he got that. Or he got this, but we got that. Or sometimes it just plain didn't work out very fairly, as in the college example.

Don't get me wrong. We had a great childhood. Mom & Dad loved us, and we loved each other (and still do, all these years later). Mom & Dad did what they could for us.

We had a fun camping trip every summer ...in a single tent, rain or shine, in Nat'l forests, cuz they were cheaper. No flush toilets. Brother #4 missed out on these. He got to stay in cabins.

Yeah, there wasn't a lot of money, but they gave us their time and love. We all got their time, just in different ways, as the youngest came to see.

What came out in therapy was that Brother #4 was a loved child, too, in different ways then us older ones sometimes. He just needed a little help seeing that.

When it came to the end of Mom's life, it was him and me laying in the bed with her, trying to comfort her, with the other two standing around us, holding her hands.

The point of this story is that Kate only sees what she was deprived of (in her mind), and doesn't see all the gifts she WAS given as a child. All she remembers is that she didn't go to Disney World like some other kids did.

Marie said...

@fidosmommy, either Tucker's Mom or another poster stated this comment which is why I said if you were going to actually make one of Kate's dishes:

As posted above, this is a recipe for quick cement, and one box of pasta is simply not enough for 8 children.

8countem8 said...

Disturbing that Kate cares more about her tweeties missing her than she does her own kids when she is away. I'm sorry that is just not right. I could care less about her once-upon-a-time famous self. It just seems terribly wrong on a lot of levels to proclaim to other tweens or whatever, "don't worry I'm here," yet turn around and tell your own flesh and blood, "Sorry, I don't want to deal with this."

url said...

So what's the surprise in Kart's cheesy bacon recipe? Is it the old frozen party platter cheese with its freezer taste? Yummy.

Call Me Crazy said...

Hi Mel,

I really enjoyed your post. It is very interesting to think about how kids who are raised in the same household by the same parents can have such vastly different experiences and perspectives on life events. These differing experiences play a significant role in shaping a child's perceptions.

I believe it is usually really healthy when siblings don't always have cookie-cutter experiences. (Kate, dear, are you listening?) Not only is it a sign that parents respect their children's individuality, but it also enables children to understand and learn that their lives can change as family circumstances (e.g., financial, geographic, etc.) change.

Now certainly there are circumstances when a parent or parents very obviously favor a certain child over another or others. This can have a long-lasting negative effect on the child/children who are slighted. (Kate, dear, are you listening?)

Overall, parenting is a really tricky gig. For some, despite loving their children beyond all else and doing everything "right" by them, things may turn out badly. For others who are obviously terrible parents, things may turn out quite well.

Life is fascinating, isn't it?

Marie said...

Why do I doubt that the kids wont get to go tick-or-treating? Wish I didn't. I come from a family of 6 kids and my father always took us out door to door when we got older we got to go out alone or with friends but that was in the 70s and 80s. We lived in suburbs, sadly Kate lives out in middle of farm country PA.

I'm not familiar with weather in eastern part of the states here but I doubt weather will hold for such an event? Maybe.

I hope her kids get different costumes, can go as they wish to regardless they are boys or girls and for once will get to pig out on candy. Yeah, yeah now I know as kids we always tried to and parents swore it would make us sick and we, myself included allow only a few pieces. But Kate controls candy like just about everything else here. Let the kids go wild once in a while. Does them good I think.

Happy early Halloween everybody.

fidosmommy said...

No, I've changed my mind about trying out Kate's recipes to see how they work. I think it would be scads more fun to let her adoring tweeties bake them and form their own opinions of Kate's recipes. I would love to be a fly on the wall at all those dinner tables.

I await the twitter comments:

K8 ru sure abt prprons? Mines gluey.

K8, i mst hv goofed up. It ws 2 hard 2 cut!

K8, I +ed 2x more prmesan ch. it gets n 11.

Marie said...

@fidosmommy, you are so right! Chances are they will try them. But I honestly cannot see how anyone would truly enjoy them.

fidosmommy said...

Or, better yet, the tweets will roll in asking:

K8, what do I use to cut up the vegetables?

K8, I don't have a big enough pan. Can I put it
into 2 separate pans?

K8, What kind of plates do you serve it on?

Anonymous said...

Deep In the Heart of Texas -- I disagree with you that the kids are not starving and that maybe they have tiny appetites. The (very) few occasions we've seen them with unlimited access to food, they've pigged out -- the episode where Emeril prepared a dinner for them, the visit to the dairy farm where they drank cup after cup of milk, Jon's Korean dinner, the minor league baseball game where some of the kids put away 2 hot dogs plus popcorn and other stadium type food. Contrast that with the restaurant visit where Kate only allowed them to have 1/4 of a chicken sandwich each plus broccoli. She controls them with food, and it isn't pretty.

Marie, I've never made anything like Kate's cheesy bacon casserole, but I've been making similar dishes to the cheesy chicken and rice for years. I use either rice or pasta and throw in a variety of vegetables. I sometimes substitute cream of celery soup for the cream of chicken soup, and I've never used cauliflower as one of the vegetables. I also never use crushed croutons. I've found it tastes best using a combination of broccoli, carrots, celery, onion. and maybe a little green pepper (I grew up in S. Ohio, and many people here also call bell peppers "mangoes"). It's tasty, filling, freezes well, and I can get several meals out of one casserole. The other casserole she "invented" doesn't even sound good.

readerlady

Anonymous said...

Hi all..Yes I'm here.No need4worry,just have been focusing on stuff that I need2get done&my website!I promise I'll b back soon!miss u all! about 11 hours ago

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Let me translate this latest tweet for you: I'm getting my narcissistic supply from another source right now and can't be bothered with you chumps, but as soon as this source runs out, I'll be back.

Hippie Chick said...

wayward said...
There is a recipe on Allrecipes for the bacon pasta dish that is quite similar, except it looks like Kate adapted it to use a white sauce instead of the heavy cream originally called for.
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If you look below on allrecipes.com, there are comments of people who change up the recipes to their own liking. Kate may have used one of the commenters recipes. How Kate can say she "made" up a recipe is beyond me. Those recipes sound...gross. Very starchy & cheesy. Just because she throws some "veges" (UM WHAT? I always write veggies but that's just me) doesn't mean it's a healthy meal.

And the whole thing with Kate claiming that she was the one who invented blending vegetables into meals was BS. How many of us have been doing that for our kids since forever? Again, no surprise her "cookbook" got canned. It was copied from all over the place.

~HC~

Hippie Chick said...

Fidosmommy....
The tweeties will ask...

do i use a frk or spn? help!!!

~HC~

Trick or treating said...

Marie said...

Why do I doubt that the kids wont get to go tick-or-treating? Wish I didn't. I come from a family of 6 kids and my father always took us out door to door when we got older we got to go out alone or with friends but that was in the 70s and 80s. We lived in suburbs, sadly Kate lives out in middle of farm country PA.

I'm not familiar with weather in eastern part of the states here but I doubt weather will hold for such an event? Maybe.
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I had to read this a couple of times to be sure of what you were saying. You doubt they won't get to go? I think you meant that you doubt they will get to go trick-or-treating. (couldn't help it, just teasing)

The weather in PA for Halloween can be chilly, warm, freezing, rainy, or even snowy, but the die hard 'treaters' go out anyway. I'm not saying that I think Kate will go in inclement weather, though. I think last year was the first time the Gosselin's dressed up and went out, but that's because it was being filmed for tv. The people who live in the country often drive to the suburbs to let their kids trick-or-treat just like Kate did last year.

I hope that Kate will continue the tradition and let the kids do what their peers do - whether it's a party or trick-or-treating, etc. I suppose Steve will have to be available because how in the world could she ever manage 8count-em8 children alone (she's an idiot) - heaven forbid she allow Jon to take them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

,just have been focusing on stuff that I need2get done&my website!I
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Another lie? Don't the photos suggest she was actually screwing around in Wyoming with Steve?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Stars22, you've posted that same post about ten times now. I deleted it. If you have anything else to add to the conversation, post away. Otherwise, move on.

anger issues kate said...

Trick or treating: Kate does the: Tradition of the moment, or trend. Kate has never had an original idea, on anything. From decorating, child care and cooking. Kate talks of making things a tradition, she does them once(for the camera)and you never see them again. Because they are not filmed, cost too much, and too much of a bother. Just like she made an ass of herself about Bald Island, we will make this a yearly tradition visit. Did not happen. There was no Korean dinner, since Jon left the picture, no visiting relatives, no kids involved decorating, pumpkin carving, Xmas, etc. Like I said above: Tradition of the moment.
As for Kate cooking, that food, she makes is full of salt, can soups have a lot of salt, add, cheese, very salty. Just like the Duggars Tator Tot Casserolo, full of salt.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Since no one is sitting with this family for meals I don't see how we can say for sure there is a food problem here or there isn't a good problem. HOWEVER, we have seen over and over many, many concerning things when it comes to food, and it's fair game to express concern as to what we have seen. Just because someone's kids may have similar habits does not prove that there is nothing wrong here with the Gosselin kids' eating habits. Just like saying well my kid loves to swim does not prove that all kids love the water, it's a logical fallacy. I dislike when the sheeple try to say they do what Kate does or their kids do what these kids do to prove it's okay, because that proves nothing other than that you do something similar. Both could be wrong.

I've had my concerns about Kate's controlling of the food, however, the real red flag for me? Was when Jamie was ticked at Kate on the road trip, she made the statement when she "teased" her (though really you could tell she was mad), imitating Kate something like, "Is it snack time yet? You only get ONE!"

The fact that someone who DOES see the kids and DOES know them and DOES observe Kate and how she feeds them, saying something like that? Red flags and sirens all around.

Tucker's Mom said...

I wonder if Kate will ever make the kids Jon's Korean dish. After all, they are still of Korean heritage and you don't have to be Korean to make it! In fact, the dish is very simple Korean bbq, or goki (some other spellings and various pronunciations exsist). In fact, goki is really hip and trendy now since the world is getting ever smaller, but perhaps Kate didn't know that back when she pretended to be a church mouse.
When I watched J&K, I saw that episode and Kate was such a prig about the food, from correcting Jon in his pronunciation ("that's not how WE say it!") to telling the camera that they'll never give away the recipe.
I remember thinking "hey lady, this isn't some arcane Mongolian dish that only the direct descendants of Genghis Khan know, it's Korean bbq!"

Friend In Pennsylvania said...

Deep In the Heart of Texas -- I disagree with you that the kids are not starving and that maybe they have tiny appetites.

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There is a difference between starving and being hungry. They may very well be hungry before meals and will eat as much as their stomachs can hold. These kids are slightly built, they are not stocky, but rather are very petite. It would surpr I'm not talking about height, but rather their body build.

Starving would mean they are dying from lack of food, or suffering EXTREME hunger. I agree with Texas - they may be hungry, but they do eat, and they are not suffering from malnutrition. I see these kids, and they do not look like kids from Third World countries, ones who are indeed starving.

What I do agree with is that she controls their food - their portions, what they eat, what order they eat it in, and when they eat. Food seems to be what she can control in her own life, and in their lives. Looking at that recent photo of Kate, I'd also venture to say that with her obsession with food, she's headed for anorexia.

Tucker's Mom said...

Re: the Jon cooks Korean episode was the one when Kate tells Jon that real cooks don't need a recipe! I wonder if she could just throw goki together. I'm thinking not.

Marie said...

@Trick or treating, no worry not offended. Sometimes when it's late and you think of something to say, doesn't always come out correctly! Yeah now that I read it today yeah I didn't make much sense. Sorry.

I grew up in the sticks so yeah we went into the suburbs to trick or treat. I just don't see Kate keeping the tradition. Even if she did her kids might have to share candy or she'd have to make it fair and give them an even amount or whatever.

@Deep in heart of Texas, people have all kinds of recipies and I respect that, I guess I'm just so used to plain, bland food where I grew up. My dad was from Midwest, Illinois grew up on meat and potatoes that was it. I don't have a lot of cooking experience I admit but fact remains Kate's cooking just sounds incredibly bizarre to me. I don't meant anyone offense if these are true Pennsylvania dishes or is anyone else makes them at all.

Never say never said...

Marie said...

@Deep in heart of Texas, people have all kinds of recipies and I respect that, I guess I'm just so used to plain, bland food where I grew up. My dad was from Midwest, Illinois grew up on meat and potatoes that was it. I don't have a lot of cooking experience I admit but fact remains Kate's cooking just sounds incredibly bizarre to me. I don't meant anyone offense if these are true Pennsylvania dishes or is anyone else makes them at all.
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Marie, I enjoy reading your comments and have been interested in your description of the meals you were served growing up and the control that went along with food. I've lived in the midwest, the southeast coast, OH, NY, MI, WI, IL, and I can say without hesitation, that I've eaten some version of a casserole (which is what the cheesy pasta and/or rice dishes are) in all of the locales.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Kate's 'plagiarized' recipes are the best - IMO, they're heavy on sodium (salt) and much too cheesy for my tastebuds and they could be jazzed up by substituting fresh vegies for the frozen, but all things considered, the flavor combinations are pretty good and I hope one day you'll give new foods a chance. :)

IIRC, you're a student so you may not have had all that much time to experiment with food prep and meals yet, but I hope that when you have your own kitchen you'll develop an interest in food and nutrition and experiment with new and different taste combinations. I think you'll find that some of the things you once thought sounded strange actually taste pretty darn good. Every chef will tell you that you must season your food with salt and pepper to bring out the flavors. I wonder if adding a little bit of each to your meat and potatoes might perk up the flavor and you'd enjoy trying new foods. My brother hated all vegies growing up, but now......he loves them all. Never say never.

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