Kate admitted in a recent blog post that the sextuplets missed out on Halloween due to "schedule" conflicts (Kate was having the time of her life on The View's Halloween special that morning) and a snowstorm (that occurred a full two days before the holiday and had all melted away by then). At least the twins were able to go trick-or-treating with some friends. Kate thinks she made up for Halloween the next day by hiding discounted candy around the basement and having the children find it. But is this enough?
Not by a long shot, according to Dr. Polly Blake Dunn, Ph.D., a Licensed Psychologist specializing in child psychology. Halloween is a great time to build a child's social skills. Here are some of her tips:
- Encourage your kids to make eye contact with people handing out candy and friends and neighbors that they might see on Halloween night. The earlier our children get the hang of this important social skill, the better.
- Remind your children not to run off to the next house, but say thank you as they leave. Who doesn’t want to say thank you to someone who has just handed them a piece of candy? Unfortunately, it’s easy to forget this step when there is more candy waiting for you right next door. This might take several reminders, but learning how and when to express gratitude is important.
- It’s important to teach our children that they aren’t always going to get what they want. Make sure they know that they should still say thank you, even if they don’t like what they were given.
- Teach patience. One of the hardest parts of Halloween for kids is waiting! First, they have to wait until the last day of the tenth month for Halloween to finally arrive. Then, they have to wait until nighttime for the fun to really begin. Once the trick-or-treating is underway, they have to wait behind other children who might have gotten to their neighbor’s door first. And finally, they have to wait until they get home to really get a good look at their loot (not to mention eating all of those yummy treats)! Remind your children ahead of time that they will probably have to be patient.
And one from Realitytvkids.com:
- Encourage fun and silliness! It's important for kids to know there is a time and a place to just let loose, dress up as something scary or funny and not be embarrassed, hang out with friends and have a great time while still being safe. Work hard, but play hard, too.
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I noticed on twitter this morning someone was asking her what was going on either her eight year olds getting expelled. Kate plays all coy. Expelled, huh? I don't have eight year olds!
LOL please Kate you know exactly what she is asking you about!
Here's the actually tweet, does Kate have any clue how she sounds?
@DeeDeeMarieAnn not sure what ur talking about. I have no kids who have been expelled& no 8 yr olds at all. Sure this was for me? :) about an hour ago
You can do what you want Mary Ann but just be aware the sheeple love to try to get folks fired. Though always unsuccessfully I might add. I'm sure the folks at FlightAware would bust a gut laughing if they got a sheeple call.
If you go on tv and promote yourself as:
uber mom
Green
A fab cook
A runner
A hard worker
A high road taker
Do it all alone with no help
It's fair game to call you out when you don't do those things, either at all or not much.
Speaking of Africa and marathons, I saw a clip about Christy Turlington running the NYC Marathon and raising money for Maternal Health. She said that 5K is the minimum distance people have to walk while pregnant in Africa (I forget where specifically) to get prenatal care. Now, this to me is inspirational.
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/fashion/supermodel-christy-turlington-burns-run-nyc-marathon-raise-money-maternal-health-charity-article-1.972209
MaryAnn --
Love your (very appropriate) use of multiple exclamation points! Congratulations to your son and his buddies for turning their hobby into a very cool, and useful, tool that so many people enjoy.
I'm guessing he got a far better start in life than the Gosselin children have. How can I tell? He's talking to his mom, helping her with her computer, and teasing her about her taste in blogs. It sounds as if you two have a real relationship. Congratulations, Mom!
Does uber mom really throw a big halloween bash for her kids one year and then not only do NOTHING the next year but also not let some of the kids not go t/t????
I don't see why Kate can't swith hoilday's with Jon?. Since she can careless about giving her kids real memories with out a video cam in their face.
she can be off to do what ever and to where evver she wants and. The kids can have their hoildays with dad ever one wins.
I forgot one of her self-proclaimed characteristics....
Uber organic
MaryAnn, please don't specifically identify your son. It's just not a good idea. It's much better to leave things as they are.
Anonymity is just as important for the GOOD people on the Internet as it is for the horrible ones. Maybe it's even MORE important for the good people.
At the least, not identifying your son specifically might save him some minor annoyance from some seriously sick people. That alone argues for keeping his name private.
If the tups have school friends, you would think she could have arranged for them to go along with their friends trick or treating. Because Kate lumps them together as a 6 PACK, I don't think it would occur to her to have the nanny drop them off at friends' houses for the evening.
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Here's the problem with living in one area, and the school in another area. Their friends don't trick or treat in the same neighborhood. It's not a matter of the nanny just dropping the kids off at a friend's house. They live an hour away. She'd have to drop them off, come home, go back to pick them up, which, logistically makes no sense. It's four hours on the road.
Kate didn't do sh*t for her kids last year, TLC did. I love how now that she's going away from the kids for a long time, she's all energy and stoked!!
I really hope Jon gets the kids while she's off galavanting to AU and LV so they don't have to stay ALONE with a nanny or sitter.
I usually don't get personally steamed about what Kate does, but Halloween really ticked me off.
Kate gets yet another getaway to NYC. Kate gets to dress up for Halloween. Kate could have been home for Halloween, but chose to eek out another day away from her kids. The kids are forced to miss Halloween and get cheap candy the next day.
Kate never planned on Halloween. Never. She knew damn well the whole time the those little 7 yr. old would not trick or treat. The whole time.
What a bitch.
I wonder how she explained to the twins that she was against halloween on principle until last year when the tups got to do it for the show (a la 3 birthday parties vs one...like the kids aren't going to notice that one).
How do you tell the tups that they can't choose costumes but their sisters can?
I wonder how far in advance the tups knew they weren't going to get to do anything for halloween? But their sisters were?
A lot of kids do not "trick or treat". Urban neighborhoods are often not safe for anyone to go knocking on doors, and homes on country roads are few and far between.There are many reasons why it's not a "must" for kids to go out "begging" on Halloween. Due to various circumstances (not dictated by any religion), I trick-or-treated only ONCE in my life and don't feel deprived because of it. The best Halloween celebrations, to me, were the school parties where everyone brought a (homemade) costume and moms made treats for the kids. I still remember some of those costumes. No kid was ever scarred for life by not dressing up and begging for candy.
Would anyone here volunteer to take those 6 monkeys, put em in a vehicle, and drive em to some other neighborhood to trick-or-treat like Steve and Kate did last year? Do people think it's ok to drive a crapload of kids to a strange neighborhood ?
I don't like Kate one bit, but the importance of Halloween is a bit overrated... IMO...
Does anyone remember when TLC had to justify the filming of the kids and the continuation of the show...someone (I can't remember her name) issued a statement on behalf of TLC that because of the show, the kids are afforded opportunities they never would have had, and the show provides Kate with income so she is able to be a stay at home mom?
Who was it who issued that statement, and would you have a link?
Post from MaryAnn --
Reality Check, thank you. He did tease me.
I will be seeing him in Texas the end of this month. My laptop will be with me and FIRST tweak -- help me get an effective Google account so I can post here without Anonymous. He will have the opportunity to tease me again.
Thanks, Administrator (and Tweedle) for the heads up about personal info. Never really thought about such a destructive agenda.
I think/hope I was a good mom. Kate would probably say that I only had one child, so I can't understand her dilemma.
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Kate Gosselin The Grinch Who Stole Halloween
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Nancy, you seem defensive. No need to be. If Halloween was not afforded to you as a kid, I'm sure you turned out OK.
The fact is, Kate's a hypocrite. She is lazy and we saw it on their show. She noted how much she hated winter because she had to dress the kids warmly.
Boofrickinhoo.
What else was she doing at the time? Working full time? Nope. She had all day long...
Her excuse (and Jon's at the time) was religion. But then along with her new boobs, plunging neckline and crotch-bearing skirts, she's suddenly taking the kids out for Halloween. With cameras, of course.
So, which is it? Yay or nay on Halloween, Kate.
She came up with the most lame excuses for the tups not going out this year. Fact is, she was pampering herself in NYC once again.
How confused and sad must they be?
Kate can manage to fly across the world for a frickin' koala, but take her kids out on Halloween? Too much trouble. No can do.
Some interesting updates on the "Steve Irwin Day" page: Kate has her name on a total of four auction items now. Her lunch ("Thanks to KG and Chalk House," which is the venue); two sets of season 1-5 DVDs (termed "priceless"--haha--on the Silent Auction page); a guitar signed by Taylor Swift ("thanks to TS AND KG"); and 4 tix to one of Taylor's concerts in PA (same attribution).
No indication who is paying her very expensive way, wonder if we'll ever know. According to the site, she will be there for the Gala itself (on the 12th) at least through the 15th (which is Steve Irwin Day). I would bet she'll be gone at least 10 days--beach vacation with Road Manager, perhaps? Because she'll just be SO exhausted from her exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! life.
Good for the kids.
Do y'all remember last year's K+8 episode? Over the top decorations downstairs, followed by trick or treating? The only reason I remember is because there was lots of talk that she was just throwing tons of stuff in the basket at the store, and then for trick or treating, she put a tail on her leggings, made sure her boobs were popping out out of her tight sweater, put horns on her head, and was staggering around in sky-high stiletto boots - in the dark. But........no camera, no fun.
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Sue Buddy, thanks. Your commentaries are clever. I just joined Gather community. Good site.
I swear I don't know any mother who enjoys being away from her kids for any excuse the way Kate does.
I would feel way to guilty to spend a few weeks away from my kids, in school etc.
The fact that she can shamelessly say over and over again how nursing would take her away from the kids is a joke. I take it that Kate is a pathological liar, so invested in her own BS that she believes it and can't fathom that others would find her disingenuous. Her lies are like those of a 6 year old.
4 tix to a Taylor Swift concert in PA? Just what an Aussie a 22 hour plane ride away is chomping to bid on. KG, the new queen of Steve Irwin Day. Oh this adventure is just what a serious runner would do 3 weeks before a race. And another paid vacay for her head of security. Brilliant.
MaryAnn, thank you.
Preesi, if you're reading, I've tried a couple of time to register at your site to thank your readers, but no luck.
Oops! No, the tix are for one of her upcoming concerts in AUS. No travel provided for the winning bidder.
The only traditions at Kate's house that the kids can count on is that if someone if filming it, they'll get 2-3 over the top celebrations for the one occasion....i.e. last year's Halloween multi-day shindig.
If no one is filming they'll either get nothing or else some hastily thrown together crapola...i.e. this year's nothing planned for the tups.
The only thing those poor little kids can count on is that mom would rather they be home alone with the nanny than that they spend the occasion with their dad.
Nice memories you're making for those kids, Kate.
Six monkeys? Six monkeys that deserved at least as much fun on Halloween a Kate had having the time of her life as a zombie On the view.
Sue_Buddy? You rock. Thanks for taking a critical eye to the venal hyprocrite we've all come to know as Kate Gosselin.
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Admin - I didn't say that *I* feel that way. But really - not everyone does relish the idea of children coming to their door asking for candy, and it doesn't necessarily mean that they're a Grainchy old fart. And you just said it yourself - yes, people have the right to turn out their lights and not participate, but if they do - which they may do because they don't want to be bothered - they are "cranky." And not everyone is comfortable with their kids doing it, because they respect the right of people to feel that way.
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I've noticed that you post on here by making some grand pronouncement about or related to Kate Gosselin. It's generally couched in terms that are sure to cause some negative feedback to you, at that point you furiously backpedal, and you can sort of do it because you were very careful to leave yourself some wiggle room and you do make a straw man argument (people, porch lights, etc.) If you want to defend Kate Gosselin then do it but at least have the courage of your convictions.
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Sue_Buddy? You rock. Thanks for taking a critical eye to the venal hyprocrite we've all come to know as Kate Gosselin.
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You're welcome. "Venal hypocrite," I like that!
You gotta wonder how Tuesday morning went...wouldn't the tups be fussing about the twins having gone out when they couldn't?
Oh wait. Kate either wasn't home yet, or was sleeping in. The twins probably stayed overnight at their friends and thus the tups would be unaware of the discrepancy until Tuesday evening.
I love how uber mom "suddenly realized"....uh, Kate? Most mothers, even the really bad ones, would have better planning than that!
Most moms, even the really bad ones, would look at the calendar when accepting the invite to be on The View and do some planning for their kids' Halloween.
Besides which....what the heck were you telling them all of September and October when they were wanting to choose costumes and do the haunted basement?
No, you can't do anything cuz mommy has to work? And she's too vindictive to let your dad take you t/t?
It's more important that you not spend time with your dad than that you t/t?
Is that what you told them? Huh?
One of the things that stunned me the most was when Kate and the kids were in NYC filming an episode...and she gave one of her sons a broken statue-of-liberty lollipop and kept the unbroken one for herself. I just don't have the words....honestly. How could any mother do that to one of her children? You couldn't have ever paid me to do anything like that to my children. I still to this day give my grown sons the best of the bunch and keep broken ones for myself. It makes me feel great to do that. I think it's just selfish on a level I can't understand.
Regarding this new coupon job of Kate's....there is no job in the public eye that she will ever succeed at unless she has a radical change of her personality OR unless they want her to be a bitch in ads she does for them....and why the heck would they ever want that?
Any sort of "performances" she's ever given have been amateurish to the point of embarrassment. She comes across as stilted, uncomfortable, unfriendly and only interested in herself. The only thing she was good at was playing herself....meaning her REAL narcissistic self.
So we have a combo of 1) most people don't like Kate and 2) she makes you have to look away when she's on talk shows, etc....because it's so embarrassing to watch her.
Most people don't like her so there goes a huge chunk of your potential audience and this would not be fun like watching her fall on her face on DWTS was.....but would be a venue where she would have to behave like a regular, caring, well-spoken person....and she just no can do, IMO.
Heck....why did so many supposed product lines she was supposed to endorse quietly never pan-out?
So now...WHY would anyone think this coupon thing will be a booming success for her? Listen, I want to see her succeed without involving the children....but just using my common sense...I just can't see this coupon success happening. I wish she had more going for her in terms of promotion....but really, she's got nothing.
Can one become a big success working for Coupon-Cabin? Sure, that might be possible. But can Kate? NO
That 18 year old in Africa reminded me of myself back when I was a "hippy" in high school, protesting the Vietnam War and thought we were gonna change the world. We didn't realize how complex the world was....what went on behind the scenes that we probably would not have wanted to see.
Permanent name listed an excellent one....that just because you donate to Africa, doesn't mean it will get to the people who need it. This happens all the time with these corrupt governments, especially the ones run by dictators. It can end up in the hands of dictators, terrorists, etc.
And hey...what about the poverty in our OWN country (not to mention that there is poverty in just about every country)? Shouldn't we worry about that first? And if we should not have Halloween but should donate the $ instead...what CAN we have? Do we have to give up Thanksgiving? Birthdays? Christmas?
Should we give away our money to help those worse off than we are....to the point of what? How far should we go where we don't have to feel "ashamed"? Give until you are almost destitute? At what point are you allowed to stop and spend some on yourself without feeling "ashamed"?
I just thought of this....is this the first time she's been mean to the tups and nice to the twins?
Usually it's the twins that she's mean to, and tups are on a pedestal.
Maybe it was an accident that the twins got to go t/t. The friend took them when she wasn't supposed to, or something. So Kate had to quick do something for the tups.
Once again, the known timeline and the tweets and just plain logic don't add up.
She had to have been telling the kids something about Halloween during Sept/Oct. Didn't she? Don't all kids start talking about Halloween in September? And planning for their costumes?
How do you explain to the twins that you were against Halloween on principle during their grade school years, but now that the tups are in grade school you've changed your mind...
So much for principles, eh Kate? You have NONE!
Sue Buddy said...
New article:
Kate Gosselin The Grinch Who Stole Halloween
Many thanks, all, for reading my articles.
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Sue, you hit it on the nose again.
Good job!
Sue Buddy ~ I really enjoy reading your articles and post ! Keep up the good work. Maybe you could give Kate a couple of lessons on the simple art of writing a sensible sentence.
Psssss.....please leave out all the !!!!!!
Pink, thanks so much. Kate really gets my blood boiling these days. It's because she's on line exposing what she's really like on a daily basis. She's making it so obvious what her real priorities are.
dee3, wow, fantastic post! I I think you covered everything. And thanks for your past comments about my articles.
I don't understand why the nanny couldn't take them trick-or-treating. Surely there was someone there while she was in NYC...who could have taken them. At least they would get to have fun even if she wasn't there. And did someone at her house even give out candy? If they couldn't go out, they would at least have had fun giving out candy. My kids used to love doing that too.
And too young? Heck, I took mine out practically when they were toddlers....just put them in a wagon and pulled it behind me house-to-house. I remember taking out the 2 older ones and carrying the baby all over the neighborhood (not a new-born...more like 9 months old).
To not be there for Halloween...okay, not exactly the best Halloween for them....but to not let someone else take them out? That's just mean.
The only explanation I can think of is that she didn't let them go out due to her delusions of grandeur....her delusions that they (through her) would attract too much celebrity attention and were too well-known to just go out to get candy with the mediocre people in her neighborhood. I think she's terrified of ever being or becoming a "regular" person.
This morning little miss merry sunshine (insert eye roll) is preparing for her exciting upcoming travels.
First trip is to Australia, probably for 7-10 days. Now, a good mother would make arrangements for their father to come stay with the children during that time, with the Nanny there to help when he's at work with drop off and pick up from the bus stop. Will Kate? Probably not. She is going to leave the kids with the Nanny to take care of them by herself. That is just wrong in so many ways. It will probably be the same with the Las Vegas trip. If I was in her situation, first I wouldn't leave my kids for that long, but if I did, they would be with their father, even if I hated his guts.
From what we have seen of this woman over the years, it just boggles my mind that people look up to her.
Sue, unlike Kate, no pride of authorship here, so please feel free to use Venal Hypocrite as appropriate--which is pretty much everywhere and all the time with Katie Irene.
MaryAnn, thank you.
Preesi, if you're reading, I've tried a couple of time to register at your site to thank your readers, but no luck.
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Preesi, like Sue, I tried to register on your site and follow you on Twitter but I was blocked. Not sure why as I've been a supporter since the early days.
Thanks Sue!
Another great article...all of them are. Every time Kate does something snark-able (which is like every other day) she just hands fodder over to her critics.
I mean, has there even been ONE week where she hasn't given you something to snark at in your articles? It's getting fun to see her do something idiotic every week and then look forward to reading your article about it.
The only reason why the twins went is cause super mom wan't at home she might have told them."oh mommy been working to hard"-
"Oh come on it's and hour drive there and back"
"I took you last howllen wan't that good enough?"
"We can't go cause TLC canclled us they are the reason why you can't go"
Jane said... MaryAnn, thank you.
Preesi, if you're reading, I've tried a couple of time to register at your site to thank your readers, but no luck.
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Preesi, like Sue, I tried to register on your site and follow you on Twitter but I was blocked. Not sure why as I've been a supporter since the early days.
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I'll ditto that.
Another great one Sue.
Kate is a whirlwind of selfishness, denial, and contradiction. Since the show was cancelled on Sept 11 through Dec 2 (less than three months), she will have traveled to Wyoming, NY- 2-3 times, Australia, and Las Vegas. All while claiming she is terrifed of how she will support her kids. Seems her hair, shopping, running and ego are the priority, not the kids.
Since the cancellation of the show, she has been a drama queen over the short storm, but has somehow managed to mimimize the arrest of Blankinship and the fact that he edited the film on their show AND put Jon down, allowed the tups to miss Halloween through her own selfish choices, has left the kids in a van parked out of site of the restaurant for at least 15 minutes, and has a 7 year old crawling under a car because she is too lazy to get out. These are only the things that we know about. I feel terrible for the tups as she always puts her own needs first and should have made arrangements for them to trick or treat. But that would involve Kate having to ask someone to do her a favor, and she can not humble herself for a second to put their interests first, let alone come home right after The View taping. It has always been about her. I believe the twins made their own arrangements with friends, and Kate was hard pressed NOT to let them go, as there was no reason they shouldn't. And I think they are a little more vocal than the tups.
As far as her Coupon Cabin "job"
I have mixed feelings that she is NOT a representative of good moms struggling, but overall, feel it is best if the kids are left out of it. And she COULD go back to nursing if anyone would hire her, but it seems, she will not lower herself to even try.
Anyway, based on her behavior and priorites over the past 2 + months, I have serious concerns for these kids. She seems to be very focused on running, her diet, traveling, staying in the public eye and her twitters (usually when the kids are home). Her priorites appear to always be centered on herself, her looks, her trees, her travel and her overall self.
By the way, the tups were NOT expelled!! Snark on her recent twitter comments.... oh priorties. Rant completed.
I have just been reading an article in my Sunday paper about the growing trend, as the holiday shopping season begins, towards digital couponing using smart phones. I may not be as tech forward as I could be, but it made me think that K8 is woefully not tech forward either, in spite of her 7/8 pink phones and her painful problems with twittering. I don't know much about Coupon Cabin, but after reading this article I am thinking that their future might also be in digital couponing, and not with a woman who runs through parking lots with pieces of paper clutched in her hands. If she thinks she has a future in the coupon biz she might be better served with some digital tutorials instead of a plane to Oz. Oh who am I kidding, she really doesn't want to work unless there is a hair and makeup chair, a stage and a microphone. And an easy paycheck. Perhaps Coupon Cabin thinks she can do more than smoke and mirrors.
Why couldn't the nanny just tag along with them to a friend's house. I was always instructed to. Parents would rather have the nanny tree try know and trust as an extra pair of eyes and hands. And with six kids I think any parent would appreciate that.
TotallyDisgusted said... This morning little miss merry sunshine (insert eye roll) is preparing for her exciting upcoming travels.
First trip is to Australia, probably for 7-10 days. Now, a good mother would make arrangements for their father to come stay with the children during that time, with the Nanny there to help when he's at work with drop off and pick up from the bus stop. Will Kate? Probably not. She is going to leave the kids with the Nanny to take care of them by herself. That is just wrong in so many ways. It will probably be the same with the Las Vegas trip. If I was in her situation, first I wouldn't leave my kids for that long, but if I did, they would be with their father, even if I hated his guts.
From what we have seen of this woman over the years, it just boggles my mind that people look up to her.
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I completely agree. This would be the mature and caring thing for Kate to do, but she NEVER considers what might benefit the kids best. She really is a vile human being. Jon should be able to stay with the kids for 7-10 days she will be away in THEIR house or at his house. There is absolutely no reason for this not to happen if Jon was offered the chance. In my opinion, Kate is worried the kids will want to be with Jon more, and so she will not allow this, no matter what crap she claims. Deep down, I think she knows he is a better parent, and this has got to be killing her.
The twins going out for Halloween brings up something I've been wondering about.
My mother was a narcissist and terrorized me all of my life...until she died, actually. And I have read Preesi's posts about her own mother and it sounded to me like her mother gave her a hard time and criticized her all the way up to adulthood....and there are others here who grew up with narcissistic mothers.
I was the fall guy and my mom easily bullied me. It never even occurred to me that I could stand up to her....that would have been unfathomable to me....BUT one of my sisters did (she turned out to have the most successful life btw). She told me she looked at our mother as an adolescent, said to herself "this person is never gonna do anything for my future or be useful to me" and pretty much dismissed and avoided her.
She almost terrorized our mom, now that I think back. She most definitely intimidated her. Mom consoled herself by telling me I was a better daughter than the intimidating one....often said "there's something wrong with her...she just doesn't act right", etc. She always criticized me in one way or another...but when it came to the subject of that sister, my mom almost complimented me (by comparison) and it made me feel good....but at the expense of feeling I was betraying that sister.
I have seen...though it could have just been a facade....Kate looking almost afraid of Mady and Cara (especially Mady)....and this intrigues me. And Mady is really starting to remind me of that sister more and more, just watching her. She seems to be the adult in the equation with Kate being the juvenile one. Cara...not sure what's going on with her but she always looks unhappy and angry....and Mady could be carrying her when it comes to standing up to mom and Kate relents to both, the older they get. I just love Mady. She looks more and more self-confident and wise every day....like she's got Kate's number.
I'm really curious to see what happens when the children aren't little anymore. Will she terrorize some but be intimidated by others? What if some of the girls are such beauties that everyone compliments them? Will Kate be able to handle that? Will Kate live vicariously through her children's accomplishments or will she be bitter and jealous of it?
I hope they all stand up to her it will drive her to the nut house.
I was not able to post under a name here as well. I use IE. For whatever reason I can do so now. So if you haven't been able to post, try it. Pick the "name/url" option and type in your name. Have no idea why it works for me now, but it does.
Frankly, my posting frenzy the last couple of days (all three? of them!) is testing to see if it continues to work!
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I hope this is not too off-topic...but it does relate to the subject of reality shows.....do you think it would be worth it to have an entry and/or comments about the Kim Kardashian wedding? Was it real or just staged for ratings?
It seems like everyone I've run into the past few days asked me that question.
And I'm curious if people think she went too far and it will turn out to be a nail in the coffin of her celebrity rather than a huge ratings booster.
Kate can manage to fly across the world for a frickin' koala, but take her kids out on Halloween? Too much trouble. No can do.
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What kind of people will the kids turn out to be? So sad. It will take years of therapy and detaching completely from the mother to become well adjusted. She is totally blind to the fact that once the kids are grown, her chance to do these little things is g-o-n-e GONE.
There was no reason in the world why she could not have spent time with her kids....and what was the conversation at school the next day like for the tups - "yeah, we watched the "older kids" get dressup and go oiut with friends, but we couldn't go....mom wasn't home she was up in New York looking for a new husband..."
Jon - please pay attention to this...
I'm with Admin & Preesi on this: calm & happy & peaceful little life...
I don't like the people that surround themselves with drama. I saw that SO much bartending. It was crazy.
And in my opinion, NH has the BEST Fall air! :)
~HC~
Jon works and can't take the kids on a whim when Kate's traveling.
One of the problems with having a mediocre job is you can't arrange your schedule around the kids.
These parents both did a horrible job of preparing for the future. Jon is now living in the real world, and I'm sure he regrets his frivolous spending. Kate, imo, will never accept reality and will continue to chase her dreams until she's penniless.
Had TLC not seduced this couple with fame and money I believe Kate would have become a more reasonable person and Jon would (by now) have established long-term employment. They made a lot of poor choices.
I wonder what Kate will do when the twins are old enough to choose what parent they want to live with? and they twin go with Jon.
Who will she blame then the judge her lawyer or the courts?.
dee3 said... Administrator~
I hope this is not too off-topic...but it does relate to the subject of reality shows.....do you think it would be worth it to have an entry and/or comments about the Kim Kardashian wedding?
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I personally can not take another minute of the tacky Kardashian nuts. I would however like to see a post on "Sister Wifes".
There are not 8, but 17 innocent children that are growing up in front of the cameras and a film crew.
This family is exploding right in front of our eyes and the parents just keep filming the good, the bad, and the ugly.
There are many teenagers in that sick family and I can't seem to get a good vibe from any of them. It just seems as if something is just not right concerning those children.
Wow ! Tired of your kids, just ship them off to the next mother to raise.(Especially the one that only had one child which is almost raised).
There's some sick stuff going on in Cody's family and those four separate houses.
I personally haven't done a lot of research, but think I may start playing detective.
dee3 said...
Administrator~
I hope this is not too off-topic...but it does relate to the subject of reality shows.....do you think it would be worth it to have an entry and/or comments about the Kim Kardashian wedding? Was it real or just staged for ratings?
It seems like everyone I've run into the past few days asked me that question.
And I'm curious if people think she went too far and it will turn out to be a nail in the coffin of her celebrity rather than a huge ratings booster.
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dee3,
I cannot stand The Kardashians. Anybody who thinks Kim got married for any other reason besides money and publicity needs to get their heads out of Kim's bulbous butt. That family is shameless.
I don't think they expected the backlash (such as it is)from this.
The most troubling and bothersome part of K8's need and desire to be away from home as much as she is, is not that she does it as much as she absolutely does not think first about the childrens' welfare. In that, she should absolutely make sure that their lives remain normal, and one aspect of that would be to allow their father to be primary caregiver in her absence, another would be to make sure that they can do things like Halloween if she chooses to be gone, these are indicators of good parenting. Another would be to actually hire people who stay with you and not have your children being cared for by a succession of strangers.
My daughter had a childhood friend, whose parents were divorced and remarried by the time this little girl was 3. The parents each owned a home in our town so that the kids (there was an older brother) could switch weeks with Mom & Dad, and still have access to school, friends and activities. All parents worked and so there was also a housekeeper/nanny, who switched weeks with the kids and got them back and forth. It had been a messy divorce and as the parents of the friends of these children we all knew way more than we wanted to, but they obviously worked out a lifestyle for the kids, and the primarily focus was to make their lives as routine as possible.
And so this is the biggest problem with K8G, as most of us say on a regular basis - it is simply not about the children, it is always about her. Nobody really cares what she does or who she does it with, but her pretense that everything she does is for her children simply rings hollow with what she actually does, or doesn't do, for them, about them and with their best interests in mind. And IMHO it never serves children well when the primary care parent is either absent as much as she is, and is a crazy loon when they are with her. The twitter thing is a good illustration, pay attention to your children when they are home, K8, not your imaginary internet friends. I cannot even imagine having had the time to even do what I can do here since my kids are grown, if this technology had been around when they were young - I was happy to read a chapter in a book at the end of the day.
I'm so sick of hearing about the Kardashians. They're all talentless, greedy and shameless.
Kim is pretty and the the other 2, I don't get it. Kloe is frightful. I know that's mean, but there you have it.
The whole wedding was so ridiculous, a circus really. Fake fake fake.
As fake as Kate's boobs.
Mady was/is intelligent and very outspoken and Cara (formerly more passive) is clearly angry and sullen. These are the two who have dealt with Kate's crap and contradictions for the longest. Cara was VERY attached to Jon and I think the hypocracy is clear to both twins, although they express their frustrations differently. My guess is that Kate pacifies them more, as they know they truth, she does not want them to speak out to friends, and is terrified that they both may want to be with Jon more, as they both know ultimately that they can request this. So she pacifies them. She alos tries to hang bait for Mady that she will be the next Disney star., if she sticks with her.
I shouldn't say this, but I am betting ALL of the kids are NOT allowed to discussed their life with Kate, under the penalty of severeness. God knows what she has told them. Alexis,Colin, and Hannah are going to be her next challenges, as even Hannah, the favorite was snarking on Kate several times on the SUV trip. This will implode over the next few years. Mark my words - 5 out of 8 of her kids are showing symptoms already that they will NOT go along with her agenda, so my forecast is she is going to have hell to pay once these kids move out of the "shroud of silence" she has imposed on them,under the penalty of severeness, and will speak out and want to be with Jon.
Deep down, the older they get, the more they know that Kate is all about herself, and her rules are there for her and her only. And the resentment will build, due to her selfishness and inability to handle 8 kids with her ego always first. They WILL resent her for this and she KNOWS this. Jon is a threat to her which is why she ALWAYS puts him down.
Oh, as for Jon having a regular job, there is no reason he could not be with the children in the evenings and weekends, with the nanny/sitter there to do the daytime care, which is what many working parents have to do. The fallacy here is that K8 would have the world think that she does it all as the single parent at home when the reality is that she has that help, does not work outside the home and still cannot do it well. When she is out of town, would it not be best for the children to have their father present to supervise homework, have dinner with them, etc. Yes I understand that the elephant in the room is the father's now long term girlfriend, but K8 need to grow the eff up about that, too - it is not as if she is not with the kids on dad weekends. Her control freak personality has no boundaries, and yes, here again it is not about the kids.
The twins are becoming more and more in her good graces, especially Mady, because from her tweets it sounds as though they are assuming more and more responsibility for the little kids and have learned how to appease her. And last but certainly not least, Mady has become very talented at something, and per her mom wants to be in show business. The child is a genius.
Jon can't afford a nanny, and I don't think it's realistic to ask Kate to pay for one during the time he's with the kids.
Most kids want to be "home" and it helps with their structure to remain in their normal environment. I can't imagine it working out well to have them stay at Jon's tiny place for more than the odd weekend.
Jon did not set himself up to take care of his children. He is barely paying the minimal child support.
Emma, you've been eating at the sheeple pablum trough. Jon pays what the court orders him to pay, despite Kate slamming his contribution. The "kids" home is where there mother leaves them constantly, which can not be said of Jon. When he has them, he's present, not off galavanting around the globe, leaving them with a sitter or nanny while he's the one getting the "bodyguard".
Jon is taking all the right measures to be a good father, most of all, by keeping his mouth shut about their mother and not disrecting and slamming her with not so subtle put downs on national tv and rag mags.
Emma said... Jon can't afford a nanny, and I don't think it's realistic to ask Kate to pay for one during the time he's with the kids.
Most kids want to be "home" and it helps with their structure to remain in their normal environment. I can't imagine it working out well to have them stay at Jon's tiny place for more than the odd weekend.
Jon did not set himself up to take care of his children. He is barely paying the minimal child support.
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If Kate was anything other than a self-centered fame whore she could do the reasonable thing and allow Jon into the home (she did claim the home was the kids)during the time that she chooses to be away. She simply can't let go of her death grip on those poor kids and she can't move on from the divorce. She will never co-parent with Jon and she will always do her best to alienate the kids and the general public. A reasonable human being puts the welfare of their children before anything else but she is not reasonable in any way, shape, or form.
Westcoaster- Completely agree. It SHOULD be about the kids spending time with a parent, and when Kate is not available, why not Jon during the hours he is not working???
Emma, how do you know what Jon is paying in child support?
Normal sheeple-babble...
Believe me, I can't stand the Kardashians either....but what I was interested in is what others think about this strategy they used. Was it a clever idea or will it spell their demise because they went too far?
If you look at Kate....there was a period of time when she increased her viewership due to so many people hating her. Of course, eventually most people lost interest and the show was cancelled.
But what do people feel the effect will be of this wedding debacle?
As just a "good business" decision, I think the wedding was fine......it's the only 72 days before divorcing....not to mention refusing to give the 2 million dollar ring back, etc.......that at times, makes me wonder if the entire thing was staged from the get-go....or maybe parts of it weren't.
I mean, wouldn't you have to be pretty stupid to not realize people would turn against you in droves if you had a 10 million $ wedding and then filed for divorce 72 days later...not to mention that the celebrity magazines started having all sorts of stuff about the marriage being in trouble...about a week after the wedding. I thought it was embarrassing and laughable when I saw the covers of the mags while in the check-out line. OK...you want to stage a wedding for ratings and then have them divorce because the wedding was just a sham. But 72 days???? Why would they have even made this decision? I have a hard time believing that the folks at the E Channel were so clueless that they didn't see this coming. It makes Kim (and her mom) look like selfish, shallow, entitled, uncaring narcissists.....and what I'm wondering is having gone TOO far (IMO) will this start spelling the doom for reality TV? Will this be so ridiculous, so egregious...that people will not only be disgusted with them but also disgusted with themselves for even watching this crap?
There is no "minimal" child support. It's based on a complicated formula and no one has ever disclosed the amount Jon pays, Emma.
I think Kate doesn't want Jon to have te kids more because the more he has the kids the less he pays. Yeah right she's not down with that. Also Jon pays for her nannies via child support why would it be unfair for Kate to pay for his? Why can't they just share the expense?
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Well, how irresponsible and lazy of Jon not to rush out and get himself a job as the CEO of a Fortune 500 company.........so he can afford to pay what you think Kate should get.
I don't know how old you are (I suspect very young) but when it comes to child-support, the courts only make the dads (sometimes moms) pay a figure that is reasonable for what they make.
Do you honestly think a family court judge is going to order that a dad pay $10,00 a month when he only makes $4,000 a month? Where is the dad supposed to get that amount? Jon IS paying what judge ordered him to....and has been from the get-go. Even with all her lies, Kate has NEVER even hinted that he is in arrears on his child support payments.
The amount is not what the wife wants or thinks she should get....it's what the courts work out mathematically using the incomes and financial statuses of both parties.
One thing about the legal system.....although there are plenty of times when they fail at this...the legal system is supposed to be all about fairness.....and it usually is.
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MaryAnn, thank you.
Preesi, if you're reading, I've tried a couple of time to register at your site to thank your readers, but no luck.
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Preesi, like Sue, I tried to register on your site and follow you on Twitter but I was blocked. Not sure why as I've been a supporter since the early days.
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I got the same thing when I registered.
As for Kate and Halloween, I am just appalled that the monster could treat her children in such a manner. As a mom and a grandmother, Halloween is just as much fun for me as for my offspring. I got a last minute call from my daughter on Halloween to go trick-or-treating with her and my 1 year old grandson. I said, "Whoo Hoo", jumped in my car and traveled an hour away to be with them. It was cold and damp but we had a jolly good time. As I was leaving that night, my grandson chose that moment to wave his first bye-bye and I was the recipient. After I am gone, his mother will keep reminding him that he waved bye-bye at me for the first time. If I was a self-centered, egotistical, bitch of a woman (like Kate), I would have missed that wonderful opportunity. She is just unbelievable. Just when I think that she can't get any worse, she most definitely does.
If the number is too low Kate can go ask the judge for a modification. If she's right I'm sure he'd be happy to change it. There is more to raising kids than just a big lump sum you get every month from their hard working dad.
Wow, Emma, I have refrained from comments on anything you have said up until now, but I really hope you are young/naive, and not just drinking from the crazy juice.
So if I read you write, if Jon wants more access to the children, he needs to pay the nanny when their mother chooses to flit around (read not working, just promoting herself). This makes it better, in your mind, that they are home alone with paid help rather than a combination of at least one parent and paid help, whose salary should be negotiated of course. So their mother prefers to be gone 50% (her words) of the time and in her opinion, bitter that she still is about the divorce she instigated, the kids are better left with her paid help.
Again, how is this about the children? We don't know, of course, what their father would actually want to do if given a choice, but Emma, you need to think about this, or maybe just go play in another sandbox.
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Jon can't afford a nanny, and I d
Jon did not set himself up to take care of his children. He is barely paying the minimal child support.
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Kate can't afford a nany her kids can afford their own.
Kate did not step her self up to take care of her kids. She had them to take care of her. Who is Kate with out the kids a no one what is she know for having kids.
Instead of rushing to defend the parent who didn't get custody, why not look at this objectively?
The sheeple comments get old. I think both parents are losers, Kate more than Jon. But if one points out a few of Jon's many failings on this blog they are labeled a sheeple?
Remember when someone (Barbara Walters?) said couples with eight kids shouldn't be allowed to get a divorce? She had a point.
Some of the more vocal Jon bashers on Twitter have taken it upon themselves to "Occupy Jon's Twitter" i.e. flood his mentions.
Sheesh.
Jon made mistakes for sure. Jon is fixing them. That's the difference. Kate filed for divorce. Check the paperwork. Katie Gosselin. Petitioner. For all we know Jon might have stuck out this marriage.
@Kateplumy8Hope you can let us all take the journey with you on your travels, as much as you are able to share. Will pray for your safety.
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Nope she going to be to busy with Steve..
Jon is working. Jon is paying child support. Jon sees the kids regularly. Jon does not disrespect Kate. Jon has moved on.
I don't see failure on any level.
Jon behaved like an idiot 2 YEARS AGO. Kate and the sheeple just can't let that go.
dee3,
I think that there will come a point where folks will revolt and stop watching reality tv.
The things that bother me the most is the greed, dishonesty and the manipulation. There are a world of people to blame: 1) the 'stahs', 2) the producers, 3) the network, 4) the advertisers..... pick one or all.
I try to live a simple and honest life. If others choose differently, fine by me until they start trying to manipulate me and the public for their greedy goal. Then I'll speak out.
I'm convinced this wedding sham was coldly calculated as a publicity stunt and money maker. Nothing, no-one will be able to convince me otherwise. I'm not being pigheaded. I base my opinion on years of business experience. Whether we like it or not, someone plotted a pretty successful plan for her - she's made money and gotten lots of publicity.
Up to this point.
It will be interesting to see how kim and her machine deal with this fallout. They have to know there is negative backlash. They are following social media closely to keep on top.
From a business point of view, they are right on. Evaluate public response and either continue plan or modify plan in order to garner most support.
She is currently following a carefully scripted plotline and is in Minnesota to 'talk' with her hubby. Maybe a reconcilliation, maybe not. But publicity for sure.
I would bet the next plot twist will be marriage counselling, probably filmed.
I'm on the fence about her planning on having a baby as a plot line. As a career move that carries a lot of risk. The downside to her career could be devasting. She and her machine are not totally stupid - they have to know that.
(Not to mention the shit life for the kid)
Folks can only take so much before they throw in the towel, and I don't mean that in only a financial sense.
Where that line falls is probably different for each person. I gave up cable TV long ago and was quite vocal in the reason why when they called to offer me enticements to stay a customer.
I recall the oj simpson book that was supposed to be published by judith regan. There was SUCH an uproar that the publishing house changed their mind, and then fired judith a month or so later.
The American public has strength. The internet has given it to them like never before in history. We have a meaningful tool with which to make our opinions, disgust and approval known.
As a sociological phenomenon, it is fascinating to see. History in the making, folks, and we are part of it!
I say, 'way cool'!
Okay, trying to use common sense here, but If Kate is away, the kids get to spend time with him, whether his house or THEIR OWN house, may be miminal nanny fees, during Jon's work hours, so Kate will actually save money on these fees. Win/win. No need for more Child Support for Jon (sarcasm) but will actually save Kate money.
I am sure Kate does NOT want Jon to spend more time with the kids, as 1) She wants to be in control; 2) Does not want Jon to spend more time with them as they make actually like it and may request more frequent visitation; 3) She knows very well that he is a much better parent and does not want to give him and inch.; and 4) She knows the kids are much older now and is afraid they will "talk" about her parenting and is afraid they will expose her and that Jon will appear to be the "better parent,"which he always was.
There is no good reason why any good parent would not allow their father to stay with them in THEIR OWN HOME, let alone his. It is and has always been about control with Kate. Better to pay babysitters than have their own father spend time with his kids. She is a twisted piece of crap and never has missed a chance to slam Jon. And there is a reason why- she KNOWS his a much better parent.
As for the 'baby as a career move' plan, I call your attention to Octomom.
She actively plotted to have HOM hoping she'd get a show, money and adoration from everyone.
Spectacular fail. SPECTACULAR!
Her kids are feral, she's mentally ill, flat broke and most of the thinking world hates her.
She sure didn't get the results she was after....
Not only did Katie file for the divorce, she made the grand gesture of doing it the day the divorce/birthday episode aired so that the 10 million viewers who watched this trainwreck would know even more of their business.
It was the ultimate sell out for ratings, right up there with Kim K's wedding.
Saturday Night Live's spoof on Kardashians.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/kardashian-divorce-special/1366614
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I'm on the fence about her planning on having a baby as a plot line. As a career move that carries a lot of risk. The downside to her career could be devasting. She and her machine are not totally stupid - they have to know that.
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You make that statement on a blog about Kate Gosselin who arguably did the same thing?
Still chuckiling at some of the comments about Halloween and trick-or-treating. K8 being uncomfortable BEGGING ? Ha, good one, she's been begging for handouts/attention her entire adult life.
dee3 - Mady has had K8's number for a very long time. She has called her out several times , during the actual episode, I love her spunkiness ! I think Cara is the one to watch, she is so quiet and sullen =(
Honestly, I could care less about the Kardashians.
They are all adult fame whores who make their own choices. I am happy to say I have never watched their show.
I suspect there's another reason the twins are seeing their star rise. There are only two of them, and their behavioral problems are not known to be any worse than those of any other pre-teens.
Two kids are much easier to manage for trick-or-treating. Two kids can be pawned off on classmates' families much more easily if Super Mom wants to get out of social activities, but where is the family willing to take on SIX young children in addition to its own?
No way Kate is going to be on the phone arranging individual play dates (or trick or treating time) for six children.
Even if she tried, who would be willing to step up? However much I worried about the kids, there's no way I would be willing to deal with their crazy mother. That's just asking for trouble.
If I were a parent at the school, I'd do everything I could to keep myself, and my kids, as far from Gosselin drama as possible. Getting involved with Kate is a lose-lose situation, even for her kids.
I think the six younger children will become more and more of a liability in their mother's eyes. They're not adorable babies any longer, not (more or less) compliant toddlers or preschoolers, but six young individuals, at least two of whom have serious behaviorial problems.
Kate neither needs nor wants to deal with a six pack who aren't meeting her own needs. And she REALLY doesn't want to deal with the needs of six INDIVIDUAL young children.
No payback for her, therefore no interest.
Halloween ain't the half of it.
Emma said... Instead of rushing to defend the parent who didn't get custody, why not look at this objectively?
The sheeple comments get old. I think both parents are losers, Kate more than Jon. But if one points out a few of Jon's many failings on this blog they are labeled a sheeple?
Remember when someone (Barbara Walters?) said couples with eight kids shouldn't be allowed to get a divorce? She had a point.
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It must be really tiring to move those goal posts.
Audible Click said
I've noticed that you post on here by making some grand pronouncement about or related to Kate Gosselin. It's generally couched in terms that are sure to cause some negative feedback to you, at that point you furiously backpedal, and you can sort of do it because you were very careful to leave yourself some wiggle room and you do make a straw man argument (people, porch lights, etc.) If you want to defend Kate Gosselin then do it but at least have the courage of your convictions.
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Nice call out on Emma, Audible Click. Emma's comments seem more designed to stir up drama instead of expressing an honest point of view.
Leaving the "wiggle room" is the real tip off.
Here's a clue. If you continually say "I didn't mean it that way", it would be important to learn to express your views in some way that IS meaningful.
I've also never watched the Kardashians and avoid them whenever I can. It's unreal how they permeate the media considering that none of them has talent. Well, besides making a lot of money.
Although, I do have to say that I'm liking Rob on DWTS.
Aeduko said... Permanent Name said:
I'm on the fence about her planning on having a baby as a plot line. As a career move that carries a lot of risk. The downside to her career could be devasting. She and her machine are not totally stupid - they have to know that.
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Of course! kart is the primary example of 'baby-as-career-plan' backfire!
She admittedly got a lot further than Octomom in that she got the show, had a few years of fame, got the big house..... BUT her backlash is NOW. It just took a while to fulminate.
Octomom failed for a number of reasons, but I think the whole 'baby-as-career-plan' notion has pretty much been tainted by kart.
I should clarify that when I said "I'm on the fence" I meant that I'm uncertain if kim kardashian would dare go down that road....
I did not mean that I was on the fence about whether it is a good idea or not.
I absolutely think it stinks as a career move, for obvious reasons.
Admin, thank you and thanks for allowing me to put a link here.
Dee3, thanks. I have to say this last stunt really put me off my feed for a while. It was odd, I couldn't make myself read the rest of Kate's blog for days. I wasn't sure I'd be able to write about it at all.
Her constant tweeting and blogging are showing us the real Kate and at the same time making her supporters look foolish as they make outrageous excuses for her selfishness.
OT: But does anyone know have the recipe for Jon's Korean steak recipe? He made it on one of the shows. Not sure I remember the name. Thanks for your help!
Jon made Korean bbq beef called bulgogi. There's tons of recipes out there and it's simple and easy to make, despite Kate protecting the family recipe like it was a big secret.
Kate has always liked to tease and pretend to know something. It's kind of mean, in a way, to get your jollies in other's discomfort.
Apollo Ohno ran in the NYC Marathon. Guess what? He had a trainer. He is in great shape. This is why I have such a hard time believing anything Kate has to say about her running. Bragging that she is doing it all on her own without any training. Please! She is so full of it. Why must she lie?
I also don't understand what the big deal is for the nanny to be with the kids while Jon is working. It would be less time than if Kate left them with the nanny the whole time she was gone. She really needs to grow up and stop being so jealous of everyone that is not her.
Also Preesi, I too have tried to post on your site. I don't know what I am doing wrong.
@DeeDeeMarieAnn not sure what ur talking about. I have no kids who have been expelled& no 8 yr olds at all. Sure this was for me? :)
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Oh, good grief. She knew EXACTLY what was being asked of her. She is so deep in denial and deception that it's mind-boggling. The kids WERE expelled, although that term isn't used in Kindergarten and she can call it anything she wants - mandatory withdrawal, temporary suspension, whatever...the fact is that she had no choice in the matter. The kids had to be withdrawn from school. They could not remain there at that time.
She doesn't know what the tweeter was talking about? So the kids aren't eight, but does that really matter that the person had the incorrect ages? Nothing applies here because she doesn't have eight-year-olds, the same defense she uses when the tabs have the dates wrong. Nope. They got the date wrong; therefore, the situation didn't exist. She doesn't have eight-year-olds so this question wasn't meant for her.
Didn't Kate have a big announcement to make yesterday? What was it? I must have missed it.
I personally can not take another minute of the tacky Kardashian nuts. I would however like to see a post on "Sister Wifes".
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Google "SisterWivesWithoutPity discussion forums". You'll find all the 'detective work' is already done.
After re-reading, I want to clarify further...
I believe that if kim kardashian just "happens" to get pregnant right around now, it will be a despicable exploitation of the child.
It would seem to me to be a 'baby-as-career-move' plot line; just a further unfolding of a career plan that is over the top.
I would be very surprised if, after all the media attention on Octomom and kart in recent months (and years) about how they exploit their children, kim would be willing to risk pissing off her 'fans' with so obvious a ploy for attention and fame.
I think many/most folks are pretty attuned to child exploitation issues nowadays as a result of what kart did.
Aeduko, I hope I've addressed your concern. I can see where my phrasing "I'm on the fence" could lead to you thinking I wasn't sure if the idea of pregnancy was a good one.
"One the fence" referred to whether kim would do such a thing for her reality show to keep viewers and increase ratings.
I definitely believe that kim having a kidlet now would be exploitive.
@sue buddy- Who owns Gather Celebs and why are the so many articles about Khate? If you google Gosse- seems like the top news articles are from the Gather website and it also looks like they write about all "her" tweets. I just wonder why or if Khate's manager/publicist or TLC have anything to do with it. Seems suspect to me! Someone is trying to keep "her" relevant!
Not Sue but another women who writes for Gather does nothing but rehash Kate's tweets. It's inane.
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"Jon made mistakes for sure. Jon is fixing them. That's the difference. Kate filed for divorce. Check the paperwork. Katie Gosselin. Petitioner. For all we know Jon might have stuck out this marriage."
We all know that Jon at least attempted to "stick out" the marriage. The lawsuit of Sylvia Lafair v. Kate Gosselin--which, by the way, the good doctor WON--is proof of that. The services took place in late March 2009, Katie filed for divorce in June the same year. Impatient much, Kate?
Kate DECLARED the marriage over. Not much you can do about that, is there?
I truly wonder that if at some point Kate's lies will eventually get her into trouble.
She tries so hard I feel to be relavent, to be liked its pitiful. This is something one does when they are say in middle or high school tot ry and find acceptance. Not when one is in their 30s.
I loathe said
Seems suspect to me! Someone is trying to keep "her" relevant!
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She's going to continue to be relevant to people who care about the exploitation of her children as long as she keeps putting herself on public display.
There's no conspiracy. Kate is the idiot who is responsible for her continuing horrible publicity.
She's "relevant" because her "brand" is Super Mom, and she is, in fact, the polar opposite. She's a selfish, neglectful, irresponsible parent trying to sell herself as Super Mom.
She's failing miserably because her hypocrisy is incredibly obvious. But she sure gets a lot of publicity along the way.
Being "relevant" in this case only means "people notice when you are a complete lying tool".
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@Kateplusmy8 @DeeDeeMarieAnn Exactly. Thank you. No school WOULD expel 8 y/o (or younger.) Don't believe it if it sounds like nonsense.ann_iw
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It's not nonsense. Yes, they do, and they did. If a school has done everything to make it work for the child, and the child clearly isn't functioning in that environment, they will expel the child. I think that sheeple, such as Ann, are so hung up on semantics ("kids that age don't get EXPELLED), that they are dismissing it as a lie, never taking into consideration that the kids were asked to be withdrawn. Perhaps "Ann" should get a copy of the contract. Call it what you want, sheeple. The fact is that because of behavior problems, they could not stay there.
I totally agree Parent. Whatever you want to call it, but young kids ARE expelled sometimes. It happens. Just do a google search for "first grader expelled." It lists a bunch of kids that happened to make the news, just like the Gosselins did, including:
1. a first grader expelled for excessive bullying
2. a first grader expelled for bringing camping equipment into school including a knife
3. A first grader expelled for refusing to comply with the school dress code--his hair was long and he had an earring
4. A first grader expelled for bringing marijuana to school
5. A first grader expelled for inappropriately touching another student under her waistline.
Yup. First graders get expelled. While some of these have been controversial, the fact is that it did happen whether parents agree it was too harsh or not.
I remember the sheeple all giddy with excitement when Kate explained it was decided the kids would leave for a time. That they were NOT expelled. So what does it matter how Kate wants to spin it? "It was decided they leave"/suspended/expelled/let go/pink slip however word you want to use to describe it, the end result is they were taken out of school.
Ann and Imperfect Women needs to learn this mantra: Google is your friend!
She just changed her brand from super sexy mom I wanna man to super savings/fitness mom. She finally saw the sexy thing was not working. We can look for her to drop the tight mini's and plunging neck lines over time and the hooker heels. The heels will continue but in a more appropriate fashion. They help give her legs some definition that she really needs. That super sexy woman (who happens to be a mom) is the one thing she tried that did not work for her and the one I think she truly wanted. She is totally asexual. One thing is for sure she will go which ever way the fame trail takes her. Maybe by her not trying so hard to look sexy, she may gain a little bit of sexuality. And when she is accountable to a corporation that is really into the mom thing, and PR, she may tone down some of her ex-wife from hell and I'm a mediocre mom get over it tactics as well. She will strive to appear to be a better mom at least on paper. Here's hoping, for the sake of the kids, anywho. Kate has something you don't learn in school - street smarts - starting back from the early days when she talked Kevin into taking her licks for her. She ls the master of her very own universe with the kids being the moon and the stars that make it all happen for her. Maybe when she is not so in your face about her treatment of the kids people won't worry so much about goes on behind closed doors. Losing the show may have been the best thing that could have happened for her. Who knows. She certainly hasn't broke stride yet.
Anonymity is just as important for the GOOD people on the Internet as it is for the horrible ones. Maybe it's even MORE important for the good people.
At the least, not identifying your son specifically might save him some minor annoyance from some seriously sick people. That alone argues for keeping his name private.
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Couldn't agree more. I learned that the hard way. Keep your personal info just that. Personal.
Unless you crave that kind of, er, attention!!
I doubt Kate has given up the hooker look. I don't think anyone could convince her to do that. She'll be dressing like a badly brought up 13 year old again once the weather is warmer.
She's extremely disinclined to do anything she doesn't want to do, even if it's quite obvious that she's hurting herself. No coupon gig is going to change that.
I have first hand knowledge that kids in kindergarten get expelled. It is not a myth.
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@sue buddy- Who owns Gather Celebs and why are the so many articles about Khate? If you google Gosse- seems like the top news articles are from the Gather website and it also looks like they write about all "her" tweets. I just wonder why or if Khate's manager/publicist or TLC have anything to do with it. Seems suspect to me! Someone is trying to keep "her" relevant!
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Do you mean the Gather Celebs section or the whole blog? Liz Goodwin owns the Celebs section. I don't know if she has an agenda. Gather comes up a lot because nobody else seems to be writing about Kate much these days.
There's one Gather writer in particular that seems to be in awe of Kate and likes to post her tweets and make comments. Her name is Legendary Writer. I find that amusing.
If Kate says she is constantly too busy, just where does she get all this extra time to Twitter?
Sure, people find time for occasion online exchanges, private emails and such but I didn't know it was possible to Twitter so often if you are so busy.
Kate can call it whatever she wants, being asked to leave is just as bad as being expelled. I am assuming it still goes on one's record I am not sure. Her trying to sweep it under the rug only makes it that much more worse than if she were to have be honest.
The way she choses to dress is her business but that is something I would expect from someone maybe my age or younger not someone quit as old as she is. Not that I mean 36 is old really but as a parent who has kids type thing. I honestly hope this doesn't sound rude not my intention.
The tabloids said the kids were expelled on a Tuesday, when in fact it was a Thursday, so since they got their facts wrong, it never happened.
That is how Kate rolls.
or,
maybe Kate just doesn't know what the definition of expelled is. Maybe she has no inkling what that word means.
In other stories....
Isn't is strange that Kim Kartrashian doesn't need a body guard to follow her everywhere she goes when most of the world hates her right now? Maybe Steve can go work for her since Kate is just a coupon lady now.
Someone upthread mentioned that we need a cat blog to go along with Shoka's blog. I talked the idea over with my cat, Dulcie. Being a retired show cat, she's something of a showoff, so she decided to give it a try. I think her first effort is pretty good. What do you think?
Daily Meowsings
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Dulcinea
Good meowrning, all. My mommy told me about a blog written by some dumb dog named Shoka. I know I can do better. After all, cats rule, dogs drool! First, I need a nap.
I'm back. Mom gave me a new catnip toy this morning. I think it's to make up for being an hour late feeding me my breakfast. She tried to explain something about Daylight Savings Time, and Spring Forward, Fall Back, but I know when it's time for breakfast, and she was LATE! I had to pull her hair to get her out of bed. After breakfast, I had a good nap in the sunshine. Then I destroyed that catnip toy. She'll be all week vacuuming it out of the carpet. Sorry, time for another nap.
Back again. I've been watching a couple of big birds out in the front yard. Mom says they're called Canada Geese. I chatter at them but I don't think they can hear me through the window. If I could just figure out how to open that front door, I'd show them who's boss. They'd be sorry they ever tried to walk on MY yard!
Time for another nap. Hey -- they aren't called catnaps for nothing. Purrs and headbutts to all, except for Shoka. He gets a PFFFFFFTTTTT, HSSSSSSSSSS!
Dulcinea
I agree with everyone who pointed out the difficulties involved in Kate's finding school friends for the tups to go Trick or Treating with. In addition to the logistics of transportation and taking on 6 additional children, there's Kate to deal with. It's not like she would volunteer to take on all the kids for another occasion. She wants everyone to do for her, but she's not willing to reciprocate. Besides, would YOU entrust her with your kids, even for a short period of time? There's also no way Kate would unlock the gate to her property to allow Trick or Treaters. Why, who knows who might come through?! It might be a pap, or GASP! even Jon! So -- the little kids miss out. Sorry, kids. Do All Mommy really doesn't do it all. She also doesn't do it all for you.
readerlady
Daily Meowsings is brilliant. :-)
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Besides, would YOU entrust her with your kids, even for a short period of time?
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NEVER! Not on your life. Or, more accurately, not on theirs.
This is just another way Kate's unpleasant personality, choices and actions come together to deprive her children of opportunities most other kids take for granted.
I feel sorry for Kate's children, but my primary job is to make sure mine DO have those opportunities.
Dealing with a parent like Kate isn't anything I'd put up with, ever, and I'd certainly never put my children into her "care". I've known more responsible, more mature twelve year olds.
KidsRaBlessing, Re: Korean dinner... don't forget to put the ice cream dessert in the freezer. It says to keep frozen right on the label. And no blaming anyone else for not telling you that when you put it in the refrigerator instead.
Admin...
Way OT....but 3 year lurker and I just had to post...I lived in St College Pa for 9 years and just saw the news about Jerry Sandusky being arrestedyesterday for sexual assault....Joe P. and other staff knew....WOW....I"m shocked and sickened.......
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Penn-State-Joe-Paterno-shocked-by-sex-abuse-charges-to-former-defensive-coordinator-Jerry-Sandusky-110611?
I tried to send this to you privately, I"m not really comfortable posting this but love PA and am in SHOCK. Just goes to show you can never be too careful...Here that Kate?????
Melissa, I saw that. At least though professors and athletic get background checks at most schools. When you say Joe Paterno knew, that is a little misleading. He never saw anything himself but was informed by someone else of one incident back in 2002, and guess what he did? Told the ATHLETIC DIRECTOR, Tim Curley. Because that is what you do. That is proper procedure, you take your concern to the highest person. If they choose to do nothing at least you informed them.
Oh, and look how he reacts. This is "shocking!" Same as how Jon reacted. Duh, that's how normal people react. Not, I didn't know him!
You are correct, my apologies for the inaccuracy in my post. I worked with the Second Mile Club and have atended many charity events with Mr Sandusky and the Penn St football team(s). I'm just in disbelief. Even with background checks, this stuff still happens.
I am not a parent (by choice) and one reason was I would be one of those "never let you kids out of the house" mom's. My kids would hate me :-)
Great blog, I read it daily and you had the most insightful members ever.
Even with background checks this stuff does happen, true. That doesn't mean you should take unnecessary risks though, like not even knowing who the person is who is spending hours upon hours with your children's footage.
It was decided they leave"/suspended/expelled/let go/pink slip however word you want to use to describe it, the end result is they were taken out of school.
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...and it wasn't her decision to do so.
ADMIN: Can you 'create' a countdown or ticker on this site?
I am just thinking that, since Halloween seemed to have just snuck right up and caught Ms. Organized Mastermind totally unaware, maybe we could help widdle Katie Irene and keep a countdown to Thanksgiving going. Maybe a few tips here and there such as: "If you havent ordered your Amish turkey by now, Kate, it might be too late. Better check into that TODAY." Otherwise she will be in a snit come the Friday after, that no one knows how to help her hide deli turkey-loaf-slices and cranberry candy in the basement couch cushions.
Without TLC and Fig8 doing it all for her, it will be February before it occurs to her there might have been some holidays in there somewhere that regular kids usually participate in, with mediocre non-golden platters.
Very nice, Dwindle! But then how will Kate be able write a blog post about brilliantly scoring that out-dated turkey she for half-price a week after Thanksgiving?
She's got an important blog to write, you know.
By the way, readerlady, your cat writes very well. Better than some (cough, cough) humans.
I agree with everyone who pointed out the difficulties involved in Kate's finding school friends for the tups to go Trick or Treating with. In addition to the logistics of transportation and taking on 6 additional children, there's Kate to deal with
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To all who have expressed this similar concern: It is very possible that "some" of the younger children were invited by friends, but not all of them. It is also possible that Kate decided at the last minute to refuse to let any of them go since not all had invitations.
And it's likely that Kate loudly and vehemently makes it clear that she simply does not or will not reciprocate these kids of invitations.
Parent and Alumna said...
It was decided they leave"/suspended/expelled/let go/pink slip however word you want to use to describe it, the end result is they were taken out of school.
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Oh but don't you remember? Kate herself said she and the school mutually agreed that the kids should leave.
Yes, you're correct. Kate didn't have any real say about whether the kids would stay or not. But publicly, she stated she did and that has become her reality. It's just the way Kate and other people like her work. It's not right, but you will never convince her or get her to admit that the truth is anything but how she sees it.
How does that work in law, Admin., say for example you hear from a friend that he's been raping his little sister. If you don't go to law enforcement but instead tell your friend's mom, are you still liable?
This coach knew something was going on and he told a superior and washed his hands of it?
That can't be ok with people, can it?
Is that anything like you and your employer "mutually agree" that you will leave the job. It's a courtesy to you, the employee. So you don't have to say you were fired.
Just as I think letting Kate "agree" to have them leave was a courtesy. And one she didn't deserve at that.
Snark City said... Very nice, Dwindle! But then how will Kate be able write a blog post about brilliantly scoring that out-dated turkey she for half-price a week after Thanksgiving?
She's got an important blog to write, you know.
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She'll toss it in the freezer, blog about how thrifty she is to discover how to buy sale food and freeze it, and then in February she will mastermind having a housekeeper throw it the oven one week while she is out of town working some street corner, and the kids may or may not eat it while she is gone. THAT is mediocre food, she doesnt eat that anyway. She just flaps her hand at it,
As far as the blog goes, she will do what she always does: make it up, lie, confabulate, pretend, whatever - ramble along until she has so many words and exclamation points strung together that she is sure it sounds plausable to folks as low-IQ as she is. And then within 24 hours, she will believe it herself.
(Actually she will get a few recipes off a website, watch a you-tube video, and proclaim herself a Thanksgivingish goddess, with her kids all properly schooled on how-to-give-thanks to their golden platter mother, every 1/2 hour on the dot, said eight times each, times eight kids, with the dog letting itself in the house on schedual just to bark its profound thanks to The Kate. If we keep her on task and give her enough warning, she might even serve their GiveThanksToKate dinner on the prison trays instead of paper plates, and throw a decoration up of Mr Pilgrim Man.)
Daily Meowsings
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Dulcinea
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Dulcinea, your kitty's blog is purrrr-fect...
Kate didn't have any real say about whether the kids would stay or not. But publicly, she stated she did and that has become her reality.
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She carefully words her statements so that she cannot be called out on deception. That's one thing she's really good at. She had no choice. She had to agree to take them out of school, so in her own fantasy world, yes, she did agree with the school to take them out. What was she going to do? Insist that they remain when it was made clear that they couldn't stay?
You and I and everyone else, except the sheeple, know darn well that if she didn't have to take them out, she wouldn't have. Finding a tutor and keeping them at home threw a monkey wrench into her plans. She wouldn't have wanted them at home if she had any other choice, and she certainly wouldn't have wanted the media to know that her children were withdrawn for anger and behavior issues. The last thing in the world she needed was to have the public/viewers find out about this, as they did. She then had to publicly address the issue and do some damage control, which must have left her fuming.
Alli your question is too complicated to answer. It all depends. As a general rule, witnesses are not required to report a crime but they do have to cooperate with police if police approach them for help. But Joe Paterno wasn't even a witness he just heard it like one hears a nasty rumor, and he is cooperating with police.
According to testimony, Joe Paterno was told by someone else that "something" bad happened in a bathroom in 2002. The person who told him refused to give details. I'm guessing most coaches would turn a blind eye to that--it was only one time, I have no idea what the details are, this is nothing, brush it under the rug. But instead, he took it seriously and told his superior. He was not in charge of this guy. An important detail is that this guy being accused of sex abuse was RETIRED at the time. He wasn't even working with kids anymore. I think it would be a different story if no one did anything and the guy still worked with kids and college kids and you knew something was up.
Would I blame another employee if they HEARD that Blankinship might be MIGHT BE something improper with tapes and they told their boss at Figure 8--but nothing was done? Absolutely not. That employee did what he could. You can't go around on crusades based on just a rumor. In fact, if you don't even know it's true, you could end up in trouble yourself for libeling someone if it's not true. For instance if Joe said I KNOW something fishy must have happened there he is a child molester and it wasn't true? He could get sued and not the other way around. THat's our legal system for you. It doesn't exactly encourage people to get involved in other people's "business" even when they should.
melissaf said...
Admin...
Way OT....but 3 year lurker and I just had to post...I lived in St College Pa for 9 years and just saw the news about Jerry Sandusky being arrestedyesterday for sexual assault....Joe P. and other staff knew....WOW....I"m shocked and sickened.......
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Penn-State-Joe-Paterno-shocked-by-sex-abuse-charges-to-former-defensive-coordinator-Jerry-Sandusky-110611?
I tried to send this to you privately, I"m not really comfortable posting this but love PA and am in SHOCK. Just goes to show you can never be too careful...Here that Kate?????
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Right there with you! I graduated PSU in 1989. Jerry Sandusky was a familiar name and Second Mile, the charity for unprivileged youth was well known. I read the indictment and am sickened that nothing was done earlier. I read that the Graduate Assistant that witnessed Sandusky RAPING a 10 year old by was Mike McQueary. He is easily spotted..he was a QB I think and now an assistant coach..he's the tall redhead guy. I can't imagine not following through and making sure the police were notified. When I heard the news of a "former coach" then read it was Sandusky, then read the indictment, then realized McQueary was the GA, I was sickened and appalled. We were always so proud of our squeaky clean football program. I wish it were only NCAA violatons.
Kate is going to believe whatever Kate feels like at whatever time for whatever the story so no changing that. But I like to believe that there will come a day when SOMEONE, anyone will eventually call her out on SOMETHING and she will absolutely not be able to get out of it without answer it directly. There will be that day when this all catches up with her and she is outed as a fraud or whatever. At least I believe so anyway. Eventually. Just quietly waiting for it to happen.
As I don't believe you can go through life living a lie and never being called out. No matter how good you are at it, or think you are. It'll happen.
I think this explains it pretty good:
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/6/2542272/mike-mcqueary-penn-state-jerry-sandusky-joe-paterno
Mike McQueary told Joe Paterno what he saw, and Joe Paterno then told athletic director Tim Curley and university vice president Gary Schultz, AS HE SHOULD.
It was the athletic director and the vice president who decided to just let it slide not report it to police--appalling.
It's really not so much the football program who screwed up here--the coaches tried to tell the athletic director (of all teams) and the VP of the entire school and university administration decided not to take it seriously.
Of course the admin people are back peddling and claiming that Joe Paterno and Mike never told them that they just said he was horsing around. So basically, they're calling the coaches liars. That's not going to go over so well. ANd even if he was just horsing around.....? Doesn't that lead to other things? Why wouldn't they even take horsing around seriously?
Thank you for answering my question about Gather Celebs. I, too, think it's pathetic that one of the writers is reporting Khate's tweets. I guess they are the only site that continually has Khate on their radar- I just don't understand why!
It was the athletic director and the vice president who decided to just let it slide not report it to police--appalling.
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What is appalling is how you seem ok with the idea of passing the buck with the truth.
I'm kind've curious now. Would you be willing to say which law school you attended? It takes years of dedication to become a lawyer. Good for you! I sure couldn't do it.
I'm a little surprised at your opinion is all.
Just read a few more updates on it.
The only action they took in 2002, was to order him not to bring any of the kids from his charity onto campus. Even the university president was in on it--I think he's still president now am I wrong? This could explode. The boys' parents reported it to police but it took them three years to gather enough evidence to build a case against him.
You have to wonder some of these men so heavily invested in something to do with kids--some of them are not always in it for the right reasons.
He retired in 1999. Curley and Schultz ARE being charged with failure to report to police, but I think that's because they are educators and therefore, mandatory reporters. It wasn't rape against adults but against a 10 year old kid--thus mandatory reporting laws would apply even if the child wasn't a student of theirs. Gotta love those mandatory reporting laws.
I think Figure 8 should be investigated in the same manner. For as small as an office as they had no one ever saw ANYTHING all this time???
c word and Pink -- I'm sure Dulcie would say thank you, but she's taking another nap. Oh for the life of a cat! I'm surprised at her typing skills. She's more accurate than I am. Must come from so many hours of trying to sit on my hands or my keyboard when I'm on the computer. Not to mention all the nose prints she puts on my screen, trying to catch the cursor.
readerlady
What is appalling is how you seem ok with the idea of passing the buck with the truth.
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I'm not okay with passing the buck. But it's also a shame that at a university as acclaimed as this one, that you cannot trust that once you report it so your supervisor, it will be dealt with appropriately. The first thing I think most people think to do when something bad happens at work is tell their boss. And frankly, a lot of people wouldn't even do THAT. Sad.
You'll have to wonder whether I went to Harvard or Law School for Dummies. I don't disclose details like that about me.
I think the lesson in this and Blankinship and frankly some other recent incidents is you just cannot trust authorities to do the right thing. You cannot pass on info like this to the freaking PRESIDENT of your school and expect when they tell you "we've dealt with this thanks for letting us know" that it HAS been dealt with appropriately. You just can't.
I think the lesson is, forget the middle man, just go straight to the police. Of course you have to put yourself on the line for that but apparently that's how it's gotta be.
Oh and by the way, Gary Schultz oversees the University's police department. He is the police. So you can't even trust the police either.
So at the end of the day, there is nothing you can do I guess, kids will get raped because us adults really stink at our jobs of protecting them. And we ALL have that job.
Well, I know TLC is banned from many of your homes but they've got a great documentary (that they clearly bought from Britain so they can't take credit) on Susan Boyle tonight.
Watch for the difference between her and Kate: Humble, lives in the same house, spends more than the allotted time with her fans, down to earth, the same person she's always been, loves singing not the fame.
readerlady
You (and Dulcie) would probably enjoy Louis vs. Rick -The story of a man who taught his cat to use instant messaging.
http://louisvsrick.com/
It's hilarious.
Admin, I hate to admit this, but I do watch some TLC shows. Undercover Boss makes us both cry like babies! So does that show with Billy Ray Cyrus, documenting military personnel surprising their families. I watched some of the Susan Boyle thing too. It made me admire her more - and feel a bit sorry for her too. She's a lovely person, inside and out.
I have not watched TLC for months but I had to watch the Susan Boyle doc. I am so impressed that they did something that good. I wish I could meet her.
No, don't give credit to TLC for the great Susan Boyle documentary! They just bought the rights to it. A British production company made it for UK TV and shopped it here. The one good thing TLC has done and they didn't even have anything to do with it other than buying it.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tlc-susan-boyle-documentary-253046
I really liked what Simon Cowell had to say and I thought highly of the interactions they showed between her and him. He respects her deeply, but protects her in a sort of older brother way. I didn't realize she had brain damage. He said he knows the criticism about exposing a woman with brain damage to all this, he felt awful afar her breakdown. But he said I'm not going to treat her differently just because of that, I'm not going to tell her well I'm not going to back your career because of that. He is very sincere about her in my opinion. He is far more protective of her than Kate ever was her kids.
There was a funny exchange between Simon and Susan.
She said ok whatever you say you're the boss.
He says, No, YOU'RE the boss!
She said oh no no you're the boss please come off it.
He said did you read your contract??? I made you the boss!!
LOL! That conversation said it all. Simon respect her enough to make her boss of him in her contract. And Susan is humble enough not to see herself that way. That's it in a nutshell.
I think Kate could learn a think or two from Ms. Susan Boyle. But that would require Kate to actually listen to someone else's life story and listen to someone else besides herself talk.
Is Kate even aware that a lot of famous/Hollywood and or other people are actually normal when they are not working? They dress discretely, don't play games with paps or do other ridiculous things? I guess not.
Is Kate even aware that a lot of famous/Hollywood and or other people are actually normal when they are not working? They dress discretely, don't play games with paps or do other ridiculous things? I guess not.
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Exactly. I like seeing examples of celebs who still lead normal lives. It proves that it's not something you have to give up just because you are famous. You don't have to be new money like Kate is. Add Susan Boyle to the list.
The only thing that's abnormal about Susan Boyle's house is the little plaque that marks four million records sold. When asked why she doesn't go live in a castle or something, she replied, It would be drafty!
Well, good point! I like this woman.
Well, well, well...Big Fan is turning on Kate since Kate blocked her. Either that, or her alter ego is coming out...
bigfanofk8g
@Kateplusmy8 U think everything is stressful. Ur kinda like my ex. Any effort is already too much work.
bigfanofk8g
@BigFanofK8G @Twtr_is_4_Twits @JensOpinion @SouthSidaLife @kateplusmy8 Whats K8 gonna do in 2 years when the money is gone?
bigfanofk8g
@Twtr_is_4_Twits @JensOpinion @SouthSidaLife @kateplusmy8 Give this girl 2 years and that money will be burned through it all.
bigfanofk8g
@acemme @Underwalt @kateplusmy8 I feel soo bad for the sextuplets. Those kids r deprived.
bigfanofk8g
@BigFanofK8G @Underwalt @kateplusmy8 Torture K8 reality show because she is so damn unfriendly and stuck up her own butt
bigfanofk8g
@Underwalt @kateplusmy8 K8 thinks everything is stressful. How will she ever make it outside of her bubble
bigfanofk8g
@KyliesNo1Fan @Kateplusmy8 She blocked me! and I was trying to see her positive side at all times!
Hate to ask, but what positive side does Kate have? I mean the woman spends so much time being bitter and negative, last-minute, stressed-out. I fail to see Kate as anything as positive. It's just her persona she likes to play to pretend.
She pretends her kids aren't deprived, she pretends she is a good mom, she pretends she's the IT celebrity and she pretends to be everything else she is not. Is she quit playing tune-up and pretend like a child people might actually take her seriously as an adult.
And another one bites the dust!
What happened, why did Kate block bigfanofk8g? What's the story?
Did we not predict this? Kate will use and abuse the fans (as feed via twitter) until they are of no use to her, then she will discard them (in Twitter speak, block). Then, they turn on her. And it won't be pretty.
I watched about 10 minutes of The Assassination of Jessee James by the Coward Robert Ford last night before conking out, which was surprisingly on the history channel. And it struck me that that must have been one of the first assassinations by a disgruntled fan. Look up Robert Ford. He was a "fan" of Jesse James as a teen. He read all about him, had photos of him, he saw similarities between himself and Jesse that others wouldn't think a big deal (fathers were preachers, same height, same family size, same eye color) . It was only when he actually got to know Jesse James and basically realized what a, well, a-hole he was, did he decide to act on the bounty.
Has anyone watched Long Island Medium? I saw it tonight for the first time. It ended with a vow renewal ceremony in the Bahamas. I thought...here we go again. TLC loves sure loves those vow renewals!
Admin, you took the words out of my mouth about the cute 'you're the boss, no, you're the boss' exchange between Simon and Susan. It was quite touching. Both sides showed great humility and while I don't know much about Simon Cowell, that is definitely not his public persona.
Interesting to see another of Kate's 'fans' seeing the light. It could definitely be a an interesting study, to see what makes someone go from complete adulation (excusing the most horrible, public indiscretions) to confusion (hurt) to finally admitting to seeing the light.
Based on that documentary, if I had to, I would work with Simon Cowell in a heartbeat. I would trust him completely with any son or daughter of mine.
Whatever his "character" is on TV (pulling a Nancy Grace?) the fact that he made sure to put Susan Boyle in charge of HIM speaks volumes. I don't think she knows the significance of that, he could have taken her to the cleaners and gotten away with him being the boss, certainly. And the respect and patience and he had for her suggested he was in it for her, not him.
Also did you see how when he walked in the camera man asked does he mind if they filmed? He was like oh sure no problem carry on. No questions asked. It wasn't like, who are YOU, where is MY CUT, who of my people authorized this? On the contrary, if it was something Susan was okay with, then so was he.
I LIKE him.
And here we have the stupid final Andy Rooney interview 60 Minutes decided to air again, where he brags about what a privileged life he had from day one, talks about refusing to sign autographs period no exceptions and that people are stupid to want an autograph, and made fun of anyone who would bother to write him a letter.
May he RIP, but he came off as a real ungrateful jerk to everyone who bothered to follow his career. Too bad he never met Kate.
Did she ever apologize to that fan she accused of calling her wacky or whatever the other day, when really the fan was calling a non-fan that?
I didn't see one. Wonder if that fan defected too.
LOL PJ the three stages of a Kate fan's cycle! Is this anything like monarch butterflies?
Interesting to see another of Kate's 'fans' seeing the light. It could definitely be a an interesting study, to see what makes someone go from complete adulation (excusing the most horrible, public indiscretions) to confusion (hurt) to finally admitting to seeing the light.
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It's getting ugly over there. I'm wondering if this really IS BigFan. This happened once before. She turned on Kate as soon as Kate blocked her. She's going for the jugular!
bigfanofk8g
@Kateplusmy8 You can tell K8 was raised in the backwoods of Central PA because she is socially awkward. Doesnt know how to act gracious
bigfanofk8g
@Kateplusmy8 People are sick of hearing her beg to stay on.
bigfanofk8g
@Twtr_is_4_Twits @Kateplusmy8 EXACTLY. Hasnt she heard the term "Fake it, while u make it?" Fake ur talent
And so it goes!!
Does anyone have a guess what the paycheck would be for a part time coupon blogger/full-time illiterate? Is it mediocre?
It's funny, and yet, it's not.
Apparently she hasnt seen Selena. 't will only take one fan to seriously hurt her. I may not like her but I have serious concerns about her safety. Especially when she is pissing off her fans while basically tweeting her entire schedule practically down to the minute.
bigfanofk8g
@Kateplusmy8 You can tell K8 was raised in the backwoods of Central PA because she is socially awkward. Doesnt know how to act gracious
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Hey! I resent that!
bigfanofk8g lives in Hershey, just around the corner from where Kate was raised. She's raising her son there! If this IS BigFan, it's really a strange statement to make.
It's not Central PA, though, it's southeastern PA. Central PA would be the Clearfield, Lock Haven, Bloomsburg area. I wonder if BF knows where she lives!
bigfanofk8g tweeted
@Kateplusmy8 You can tell K8 was raised in the backwoods of Central PA because she is socially awkward. Doesnt know how to act gracious
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Kate's issues have nothing to do with where she was raised, and they're a lot bigger than being "socially awkward". Waaaaaaaaaaaaay bigger.
I don't have a lot of respect for people who chose to insult people simply over where they are from. I know people from all over PA including Central and they are the finest people I've ever met.
But hey at least a sheeple saw the light. But you can tell about the kind of people they are even from comments subsequent.
Apparently she hasnt seen Selena. 't will only take one fan to seriously hurt her. I may not like her but I have serious concerns about her safety. Especially when she is pissing off her fans while basically tweeting her entire schedule practically down to the minute.
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Absolutely, and especially when they live so close. This was the one who went to the grocery store where Kate shopped, hoping to see her. This is the one who asked if Kate would say hi to her if she saw her while jogging. She was right up there with Brownie in her brown nosing.
But hey at least a sheeple saw the light.
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Maybe, maybe not. I'm willing to bet that in the next few days she'll resume her role as a sheeple. It will be fun to see how it plays out.
I think we're run into BigFanofK8g before, and I think we believed this was an imposter using a slightly different name. Is the g on the end
different from the BigFanofKate person?
bigfanofk8g
@EmeraldCityJazz @HoneytheKoala @ashymama2 @kateplusmy8 Someone should send K8 an email with an attachment containing a virus. Like a Trojan
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She's really getting nasty. Can a sheeple switch sides in a matter of a few minutes?
What is it with Kate and her cryptic, I've got a secret mentality on Twitter? Telling the fans she had just this incredibly busy day but she worked it all out. What does that mean anyway? I guess the fans are drooling all over the place waiting to find out what happened in Kate world today. Sheesh.
That's it in a nutshell.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That and she had BRAIN DAMAGE.
"They got the date wrong; therefore, the situation didn't exist. She doesn't have eight-year-olds so this question wasn't meant for her."
Yeah, Kate loves to play with words. Remember the good bra. It's probably a narcissist thing. They have to play with words to make themselves look perfect.
Is Steve going to run besides Kate-(if she doen't flake). I mean how will she fell safe if he doesn't?.
Based on that documentary, if I had to, I would work with Simon Cowell in a heartbeat. I would trust him completely with any son or daughter of mine.
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A man you've never met you would trust completely with your CHILD? Oh, hell, no.
That PA coach you cried tears of joy over is embroiled in a sexual scandal. Didn't you learn anythingfrom that?
ATTN: NEVER trust ANYONE completely with your child...especially if you are getting your info from an edited documentary...WTH Admin??
People here really listen to what you have to say. Please don't let anyone here who reads think your statement is valid. Please?
And here we have the stupid final Andy Rooney interview 60 Minutes decided to air again, where he brags about what a privileged life he had from day one,
You are very naive, Admin. That was his public persona you just talked about. Ok for Nancy and Simon, not ok for Andy Rooney?
That trusting a tv character completely with your kid? OMG. I hope you don't mean that.
I think we're run into BigFanofK8g before, and I think we believed this was an imposter using a slightly different name. Is the g on the end
different from the BigFanofKate person?
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I remember that, Fidos. The name is the bigfanofK8g, and while I know next to nothing about how Twitter works, it is her name and avatar on her page. The reverse sheeple role came about as soon as she found out that Kate blocked her. Her positive, hail Kate as Queen tweets are on the same page.
@Kateplusmy8I'm checking in to say GN! My day was indescribably stressful and busy. Good news?worked it out and it's better than original! :) Chat soon!
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Stressfull guess the kids are back and what could she be working on?. How to get away from the kids faster?.
To bad that's not her jon she a real pro at it and she'd she paid I wish she just come out with it be then again it's just all hype I bet.
You are very naive, Admin. That was his public persona you just talked about.
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It wasn't his public persona. How he was in his interview is exactly the jerk he could be in his segments.
In contrast, Simon and Nancy act differently when they let their guard down. Andy acts the same. There is no alter ego Andy that we have ever seen.
This is not a hard concept.
That PA coach you cried tears of joy over is embroiled in a sexual scandal. Didn't you learn anythingfrom that?
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The PA coach reported it to the proper people you report it to. Several people were charged. Not him.
That trusting a tv character completely with your kid? OMG. I hope you don't mean that.
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Can you read? I said if I had to base it on the documentary--i.e. from what I've seen from the documentary alone. Of course anyone would do their proper due diligence. I was making the point, through hyperbole (big word!) that what we saw in the documentary was very good.
People here really listen to what you have to say. Please don't let anyone here who reads think your statement is valid. Please?
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Please don't insult the people who post here. They are smarter than that.
No one likes a tease. Which I think is one reason Kate has no friends o family. Or very few anyway.
Seriously, it gets very annoying to be around people like that. Just say what is on your mind clearly, or don't say anything at all.
underwalt tweeted:
@twtr_is_4_twits @kateplusmy8 15 minutes is hardly a source for information.
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Isn't this the Kelly person who used to post here with Kate's schedule that he obtained from his best friend, calling Kate a liar? With his "trust me on this" tag, didn't he have all kinds of information about Kate? Was the blog a source for information when he posted, or just now that he's not posting?
@Pimpmykids@Kateplusmy8 Jon's busy counting his lucky stars that he doesn't have to hear about your never-ending stress. Steve must be a bad lay.
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Opps! ya'll forgot about this one lol
Tim Curley and Gary Schultz stepped down. Top billing on CNN.
Who stepped down at Figure 8 or TLC? Oh that's right, NO ONE.
Every day according to Kate Gosselin is stressful. As I bet according to her everyone who ever had kids should be stressed out all the time.
I really and truly do not see life this way. I guess it would be exhausting to be as mean spirited and controlling as she is about things. Truly pathetic. I feel sorry she see's life this way. Too bad she can't slow down actually enoy it. But I guess for Kate since it wouldn't be all about her all the time wouldn't know how to enjoy a non-stressful day.
In the Neighborhood, thanks for the clarification.
You know, I bet Jon would watch his kids while Kate is away and not try to pay less child support. I really con't understand why Kate is not letting the children stay w/Jon whenever she away?
She claims to care for and love her children, but depriving them (yes, depriving) of time with father for a sitter instead is not care or love. Why can't she see it is in the best interest of her children to let them see their dad on non-scheduled days? What a valuable lesson she could be teaching them about getting along and conflict resolution not to mention it would show more than anything that she cares for them.
Could it be that Kate doesn't let Jon have the kids any more often is because she's afraid of what he feeds them? I'm sure they eat fast food, pizza, chicken nuggets, etc. all weekend when he's with them. As controlling as Kate is about food, that might be her gripe about his parenting.
I wouldn't put it past her to demand a full disclosure on their menus, and even weigh each kid when they get home from Jon's. Just kidding about that second part......
That sour bitch is not letting Jon stay because she won't even let him in the gate, remember? She won't give up that insult for any reason. I'd be so mad I'd do something awful if someone treated me that way. I don't know how Jon stands it.
She never had any intention to do anything for the kids for Halloween. You know the kids asked. They talk about it for 6 weeks prior to Halloween. It was always planned for her to be in NY for the max time possible. You know, shopping, eating, drinking, screwing....
Isn't it ironic that CC has hired her to blog about the holidays - the one and only, probably, person in the country that will absolutely no FAMILY at her catered TG dinner. What is she going to shove her coupons into the hands of the caterer. I think Steve and his sons were there last year, but G. was not there. They would not have missed an opportunity for her to be photographed at Kate's house. See what good friends we are. Poor kids -no crazy aunt pinching their cheeks - no uncle with the bad jokes - nothing. Oh the crew daddies - I almost forgot.
butterfly and fidosmommy- I completely agree with your comments.
She is such a drama queen. "My day was indescribably stressful and busy." Make note, her day was not just stressful and busy- it was INDESCRIBABLY stressful and busy! Oh MY!!!!!!! :-)
@DeeDeeMarieAnn not sure what ur talking about. I have no kids who have been expelled& no 8 yr olds at all. Sure this was for me? :)
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How obtuse can one be? "What you talkin' about Willis?" Oh the satire.
Kate takes the ole Humpty Dumpty approach, choosing words to mean what she means by them. So when she says she is not exploiting her kids she means she is paid to let others exploit them. That is how marshmallow fluff becomes organic. Reality is what you are supposed to waste your time watching on tv, not what is. So if you want to be Kate's biggest fan you have to accept that she is a simple moron functioning on greed incapable of being a mother let alone your best friend.
Indescribably stressful probably means the kids left a half a sandwich baggy at Jon's and what made it even better than before was that she got go bitch him about it.
I wonder if she and Steve will turn this into an extended vacation? And will he be taking the photos that will appear in the online tabs?
Kate is positively bursting with excitement being away fom the kids and ALONE with her man. No Gina on this trip will seal the deal for me that Steve and Kate are a couple. Really, what wife what put up with this?
What wife puts up with this indeed! I'll be shocked if Kate goes alone. Let's face it, she couldn't do a speaking gig in PA without Steve.
I've wondered if Kate is losing more and more Twitter followers. I usually just see Kate's tweets here, not on Twitter, and I see that she's basically stringing her followers along with esoteric drive-by tweets. No substance at all. I wonder if she's pissing folk off by toying with them.
Has anyone ever notice that, when Kate is about to do something or go on a trip: she runs around like a chicken without a head? Example: I've got so much to do, I've got to clean this and pack that, I got to run after the kids, oooh so much to do! I don't have time to tweet, do the blog or run. Geez, woman: you got 10hours/5 days a week during the day and weekends your kids are at your ex. Plus after the kids go to bed, and the time you have when the kids are home cause they are with a sitter/hire help. So you can't get nothing done. I also found this kind of strange of what Kate said about running tweeted last week: I don't run when the kids are home, BS: she has run when the kids were home during the summer, who is she tryin to kid?
Sorry kate couponing is not a real, mediocre, secure, normal job with health insurance, dental etc, it is more of as someone here put it a Hobby job. Kate is/will go on as if this is a 9-5 job, so she does not have to twitter as much. Tell me people what is there to do, on a coupon job?
Other than the relationship side of Kate and Steve, I think the reason she never travels alone is because she is incredibly intellectually challenged. I don't think she can make it through an airport alone or even the streets of NY. Why did she need Steve this week at UPenn? Too far to drive and write at the same time.
Kate's Cart said...
Other than the relationship side of Kate and Steve, I think the reason she never travels alone is because she is incredibly intellectually challenged. I don't think she can make it through an airport alone or even the streets of NY. Why did she need Steve this week at UPenn? Too far to drive and write at the same time.
November 7, 2011 7:30 AM
I 100% agree! I don't think Kate is a strong woman ( like she claims to be ) at all. I think she is pathetically weak and scared. As long as she has big tv networks and a bodyguard/handler guiding her, she can manage. But without them she is just a coward.
When has she ever traveled to another state/country without assistance of a companion? Never! She couldn't even manage a drive to Penn State for a speaking engagement without someone to go with her to tell her what to do and where to go.
So I just laugh when she brags she's a strong woman. She might be stronger than 8 little kids, but that's about it.
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