Jon says he met Bill Blankinship, arrested October 21, several times. Jon, who has already consulted a lawyer, is trying to find out what footage the ex-employee may have possessed of the children's, and expressed concern about the revealing footage Blankinship had access to. "The cameraman definitely shot the kids getting ready for bed, being showered and being changed,” Jon said.
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| Figure 8 headquarters |
Figure 8 Films, based in North Carolina where the Blankinship arrest took place and where Jon and Kate have vacationed several times and even looked for properties once, is a small company that lists only fifteen employees currently. Its offices are located in Carrboro.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/jon-gosselin-jon-kate-plus-8-editor-arrested-sexual-exploit-minor
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 275 Newer› Newest»They must have visited Figure 8 at some point on their N.C. trips. It's hard to believe they didn't encounter Blankinship if he was there in that tiny little building.
I find it sad that things are apparently so bad between Kate and Jon they haven't even talked about this news yet. This broke on a Friday. It's been days. It's probably some of the worst news to ever come out and it directly affects their kids.
And neither one are able to phone up the other? Just to say hey I know we've had our differences but on this I think we can both agree we're on the same page.
Sad thing is, they are NOT on the same page. I don't see how Kate cannot be on the page of outrage, I don't get it.
Jon's reaction is OMG! and Kate's is "never heard of him" and keeps on tweeting her tweeties. I know the sheep will never see it, but that tells me everything I need to know or ever suspected about the differences in Jon and Kate.
And does anyone really think that controlling Katie Kreider would let Jon meet with the editor without her? Even once, let alone several times? The woman is pathological.
Jon says he has met Blankinship. If he has, there's a very good chance she has too, despite the fact she said she doesn't know him. It's good to know at least Jon is taking this seriously.
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Jon says he has met Blankinship. If he has, there's a very good chance she has too, despite the fact she said she doesn't know him. It's good to know at least Jon is taking this seriously.
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Kate will say whatever to suit her purposes. She's said many times before she's a producer, she's very involved, she's had many meetings with production, she has control over a lot. Bill was a WRITER at one point. She never talked to the people scripting her life? Now all of a sudden she had so little involvement she wast even aware who was on staff--it was NOT a big crew/production. This was not Ben Hur. Not buying it.
If nothing else, Jon's making public his concern about this situation ought to ensure that Kate is not allowed to put the kids on TV EVER again. So she'll have to sink or swim on her own.
And, wouldn't logically Jon have met him in N.C. where some of production was based? He never went to N.C. by himself that we know of, while Kate has. In fact N.C. is where it was decided by big brother she should file for divorce, per her own admission.
Seems to me that must have gone to visits on one of the N.C. trips. Why would Jon go without Kate? Like Kate would let Jon go see the production company that made them stars without her??? That's the first thing she would want to do on a trip, ditch the kids and go talk TV and putting more of herself on it at Figure 8 Headquarters.
Her credibility is 0 at this point.
Maybe Kate thinks she has "never heard of him" because she thinks his name is "Mr. Editor Man."
Jon's reaction is timely, normal & proper.
Your turn, Kate...
[crickets churping]
Bill's Mom said... Maybe Kate thinks she has "never heard of him" because she thinks his name is "Mr. Editor Man."
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EXACTLY what I was going to post! Seriously.
When all is said and done, and if there is any chance of recovering monetary damages on behalf of the family, you can bet your last dollar Kate will be all over that like white on rice. She just needed someone to take the first step for her because she's that much of a moron.
All I can say is OMG -- I get the chills thinking about this and how cavalier Kate is about the whole situation, whether it be about this case or the whole concept of security for her children. She'd rather employ a 'bodyguard' (my ass) for herself while she travels and is out of town while thinking so little about her kids that she regularly leaves them with 20-something BABYSITTERS! Kate's ludicrous reply about never meeting the guy speaks volumes about her.
Jon -- pursue this to the fullest extent of the law. Create some noise about this, drum up concern about, not just your kids, but ALL KIDS IN REALITY TV WHO HAVE NO PROTECTION while Kate's silence says it all.
Pat K She just needed someone to take the first step for her because she's that much of a moron.
Pat you forgot to add lazy.
Bluenoser said... Pat K She just needed someone to take the first step for her because she's that much of a moron.
Pat you forgot to add lazy.
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And TIRED--poor Kate is so tired...she only gets 5-1/2 - 6 hours of sleep per night. Twittering does suck the life out of a person...oh, and assigning all the little kids chores and sending them out to shovel snow and chop wood...and lying...yeah, lying takes a toll on a person, plus she has to take time out of her busy schedule for trips to NYC, Australia, New Zealand and then there's tanning, manicures, pedicures, hair upkeep, and running 16 miles per day. Oh, and then there is her blog and the recipes off of soup cans and stealing ideas from magazines. What a busy life--too bad that it leaves no time for the PLUS 8.
Kate has not publicly expressed one ounce of concern about her children with respect to this matter. She may have been advised to not comment but she hasn't acknowledged that either. This behaviour is so abnormal for a mother. Another case of full denial? She cannot shirk her responsibility for putting the children in this situation. As others have said, she's been blinded by the $ signs. Unfortunately her children will pay the price.
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Her credibility is 0 at this point.
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HA! Her credibility has been zero for a long, long time........
She lies like she breathes.
AMD said... This behaviour is so abnormal for a mother.
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That's because she IS an abnormal mother.
Well finally the appropriate parental response, can ya read that K8ie?
And Benihana on Monday night in NYC? On Halloween? When your pathetic little tv gig ended with plenty of time to be home with your kids? it appears that her non-fans are not the only ones that K8 says FU to, sorry kids.
Can't wait to read about her motivational speech in college land, is this the kick-off for her national tour? Oh sorry, just made myself laugh again.
Jon's reaction is a sincerely concerned father. He has no reason to lie. Kate, on the other hand wants to keep her big toe in show biz, so doesn't want to ruffle any feathers by telling the truth. Liar, liar, pants on fire fits her once again. What decent mother wouldn't be outraged by this Blankinship story? We all know that answer, don't we? We'll see what she knows if there is money to be made from a lawsuit, won't we?
In "Kate-Speak" she probably thinks she made a factual statement.
She'll later admit she met him, but that doesn't mean she knows him.
Starz22... (from previous thread)
You come here & say the SAME things all the time; the haters give Kate more attention than anyone else.
We get your point by now. I'm not trying to start anything at all, but is this the only reason you come here? To tell the "haters" we are keeping her relevant? I understand where you're coming from, I do, but as adults, people will do what they'll do.
Most of us don't watch. You say you "will let it go" at the end of some posts, but you never do. Could you let it go & stop lecturing please?
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Kate probably really didn't know who this Bill Blankenship guy was. She's simply not interested in other people who are not celebrities. She will look right past common folk as if they aren't even there. To her, this guy was a piece of furniture who edited her show.
And really. She would do it all over again the same exact way as long as she received all the fame and attention her little cold heart desires. So this whole porno thing really is no big deal to her. I believe with everything in me that if a famous movie producer offered her a movie role in exchange for a tape with questionable footage of her kids, she'd hand the tape over faster than she high tails it to NYC to sit in a View chair. Do with it what you will, just make me a stah!!!
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Legal question:
If there IS any lawsuit, of any kind, would it be on behalf of the kids?
Would any money won in the lawsuit go directly into a trust for the kids, so that kart can't get her hands on it?
Because they have joint legal custody, would both parents be involved in the lawsuit?
It's ridiculous that Jon and Kate can't put aside their differences at a time like this and together determine what to do for their children.
I know everyone here wants to solely blame Kate, but Jon isn't helping matters with his passive-agressive attitude. He needs to leave Ellen out of this, and most of his dealings with Kate and the kids. I'm happy he has found a long-term girlfriend, but imo she is far too involved in the little time Jon spends with the children. He knows Kate can't stand Ellen, and he needs to be the bigger person and keep Ellen the in the background.
Poor Emma, trying so hard not to show herself as a sheeple. That's a few posts where you have someone pointed barbs at Jon in all of this. Where is that coming from and why are you bringing up Ellen? Jon did not.
Reposting from the other thread. I say again, could the woman have made a more serious gaffe on national TV? Of all the times for her to make ANY comment, about ANY "crew" members having ANY contact with her children - right on the heels of the announcement that an editor has been busted for child pornography. Is she honestly that stupid? It's like the worst of 'stupid human tricks'. She can't seem to help putting herself in the worst possible light at every opportunity. Everyone is correct - that she has not made ANY comment whatsoever, even "I cannot comment at this time" is so revealing of her true character. Instead she posts her "look at ME, pin a rose on my nose, I'm SPEAKING tomorrow - SO much fun!!". Very strange. Pathological. (Oh...and I was right, the Sheeple are already accusing Jon of seeking fame, fortune and a payoff for speaking out about the potential his children's images might have been mis-used by this pedophile). Sick, sick people.
Yeah Emma, what does this have to do with Ellen? Jon never brought up or mentioned Ellen. This is about that ped and child porn, not Ellen. Kate has been avoiding this issue. GOOD FOR YOU JON! If it were me and as I had posted, I would be all over TLC, that production co and get a lawyer involved, to find out if this guy made pics of my kids from footage taken. Not worrying about going to NYC to be on the View and have hair done and party, complain about the broken trees and I got my to do list. Much worry about my appearance at PSU. What kind of mother is Kate? I suppose if one of the kids got seriously hurt, she would wait a few days before she told Jon. Being the Fame chaser she is. SHAME ON YOU KATE!
And I agree with the person who said: Mr Editor Guy, Kate is full of it, that she never met this guy. Everyone meets their editor. Kate can't or won't remember, what she says 5 min ago, then contradicts herself.
Dear Emma....baaaaa, baaah...baaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
Paula, I am simply trying to be reasonable.
You needn't read my comments if they bother you :)
I don't see either parent as being prepared for the future with their children. I see them both as awful parents, awful people.
Unlike the Sheeple blogs, Admin does allow opinions that are not just pats on the backs of other posters.
If Khate wants to be a stah so bad, she should marry Cody of Sister Wives and become his fifth wife. win win situation! She is right back on TV and living in Vegas.
I am glad Jon is checking into what might have been used by that whacko. Would he sue TLC or Figure 8 for money? (maybe I missed that somewhere) I doubt Blankinship has any and if he is put in prison he won't be making much for a long time.
Why are some people(here and elsewhere) jumping to the conclusion that Jon is going to file a lawsuit? Nowhere does the article say anything about a lawsuit.
“I have contacted an attorney and I’m trying to gather all the information from the authorities in North Carolina to see if there is any evidence he has footage of our family or if he has distributed it.”
The attorney can probably get subpoenas to either view the films or get information about them. Hiring an attorney, does not automatically mean he intends to sue.
Concerning Ellen...I smell sheep
Sorry ...meant Emma..
Kate is a twit-- good point. I did think of that but with others mentioning the money aspect I was curious.
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Unfortunately her children will pay the price.
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I think they already have.
I, also, do not recall any mention of a lawsuit or Ellen.
Hopefully at least one of the students will ask her some really hard questions tomorrow (that is if ANYONE shows up). We know her answer will be she can't comment, it's before the court...blah, blah, ....presumption of innocence, etc. What about preserving the innocence of her children and how she has failed them?
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Now we all know that the sheeple will blame Jon for all of this. So Kate will look the victim, and do the poor mom of 8 pity crap. Or dumb blond act(I did not know). And Kate will get cornered and she will twist and blame Jon for all of this, even though it was her idea to get a reality show, to make big bucks quick. Who knows what went on behind closed doors, Kate could have threaten Jon with divorce, if he did not go along with doing a reality show. Just look at how she has acted and changed through the years, she got rid of anyone who did not think or go her way. Since she said her own words: ours is a realist of reality shows. So everything that went on, on screen was real. Kate sooo likes to contradict herself.
Emma, there's nothing "reasonable" about what you wrote. Jon's relationship with Ellen has nothing at all to do with a child pornographer potentially having or distributing tapes of Jon's children.
For some reason you've got a bee in your bonnet about Ellen, who HAS been kept in the background. Why are you bringing her up when no one else has?
As for trying to work with Kate for the children's benefit? How is that supposed to happen, when she demonstrates, over and over again, that she doesn't even have the slightest concept of what is good for them, and cares even less.
Reality check: you can also add avoiding Jon. Kate made it clear in one interview a while ago, that she has very little or no contact with Jon. Which means they do not talk, or talk as little as possible, to each other. Remember, when kate took the kids to Aussie, Jon only found out about it a week or 2 before they went. almost not enough time to take to court to stop(Jon lost). Kate has done this other times, gone out of town and not told Jon that she was gone, and where the kids were. They don't talk a whole lot. Just like the snowstorm, Kate could have called Jon to bring food and coffee, IF she had a good relationship with Jon, but she does not. In her mind: he does not exist, he died on her the day he wanted filming stopped. Kate went back on her own words and promise that: if anyone in the family wanted the filming stopped or the show to end, it would end.
And Benihana on Monday night in NYC? On Halloween?
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Source please?
Nothing wrong with Benihana but it's NOT Nobu.
Post from MaryAnn --
Perhaps now that Jon has issued a statement (which does not mention a lawsuit), Kate will feel "shamed" into speaking out herself. Hopefully, she has someone to advise her on what to say -- any appropriate, maternal comment.
In her mind: he does not exist, he died on her the day he wanted filming stopped.
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I agree.
Kate Gosselin's Reality
Between Kate's over the top posts about the snowstorm and her appearances, I'd say she's lost her grasp on anything resembling reality.
I know the questiona Kate will ask
1. How can I make this about me?
2. How can I blame Jon?
3. How can I blame figure 8 films and maybe TLC?
4. Can I blame Jon Jodi and Kevin?
5. How much money will the kids get so I can? have it or some ot it?
Getting all geared up to speak tomorrow at PennState Eberly Campus at noon! I cannot wait to meet all who attend! Speaking is SO much fun!! about an hour ago
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Does anyone else hear the noise of a runaway train? I'm starting to think I have seen it all out of this woman, twittering this crap while her ex-husband and complete strangers are outraged at the lack of protection her children received while WORKING on the family reality show. Of course, the sheeple are weighing in and supporting Kate as then need her to shore up their own poor self-identities and egos. I really think this saga will end with Katie Irene in a mental ward somewhere and the children with Jon (thank goodness)and this whole affair chronicled in sociology and psychology textbooks for years to come. And, crossing my fingers, TLC bankrupt and off the air!
Rhymes with Witch... Was confirmed (how reliable, don't know) by someone on Twitter last night. Source was driver/limo company. Again, just Twitter so can't say if reliable/true, only what was said.
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Post from MaryAnn --
Perhaps now that Jon has issued a statement (which does not mention a lawsuit), Kate will feel "shamed" into speaking out herself.
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She won't be; woman has no shame.
The article said Jon I preparing to take legal action. That could be a lawsuit or could be some other means we'll have to see.
JudyK said...
Bill's Mom said... Maybe Kate thinks she has "never heard of him" because she thinks his name is "Mr. Editor Man."
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EXACTLY what I was going to post! Seriously.
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Me too. You both beat me to the punch.
I want to hope that Jon is getting involved because he wants to protect his kids, but I'm not sure that it is not about the potential money from a settlement. And I'll bet you my house that Kate will get involved now that she understands that money could come from this. I will say koodos to Jon if there is a lawsuit and if ALL that money goes into a trust for the kids when they get older. Until then, I pray that he really is looking out for their best interests. And I really wish he would fight for custody because they need to be with him not her.
Hey, you guys, how was Kate to know it's illegal to have pictures of undressed ATM's on the Internet?
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Admin, would Jon and Kate have to be in a lawsuit together, or could either of them file? Could Jon file a lawsuit for the kids and then deal with the money or would it have to be Kate (hello new car) or would it be both?
Oh, and have any of the other families come out with a statement? Weren't the Duggars involved too? Anyone know?
fidosmommy said...
Hey, you guys, how was Kate to know it's illegal to have pictures of undressed ATM's on the Internet?
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This is funny, Fidosmommy, but it is also very sad. The reason she doesn't care about the vulnerability of her kids IS because they are nothing but ATMs to her.
That's it in a nutshell.
MamaK, right now I am very ready to believe that Jon has the interest of his kids at heart, not
boatloads of money. Somebody discovered a TV editor was selling illegal film, and it may involve his kids. I don't believe Jon immediately saw dollar signs. I think this is breaking his heart and enraging him all at the same time. He's already paid penance for having his kids on TV at all, now he has to deal with it on this new level.
I think he's being a daddy first and foremost. At this point, I trust Jon.
This is funny, Fidosmommy, but it is also very sad. The reason she doesn't care about the vulnerability of her kids IS because they are nothing but ATMs to her.
That's it in a nutshell.
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Yep. You're right. I think it's sad too.
Gift of grab said...
If nothing else, Jon's making public his concern about this situation ought to ensure that Kate is not allowed to put the kids on TV EVER again. So she'll have to sink or swim on her own.
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That's the only good thing to come from all of this. I certainly hope that this pervert had no footage at all of the Gosselin kids in his personal possession, but just the fact that he was an editor of so many of their episodes and there WAS footage of the kids partly naked, or fully naked, baths, potties, etc. is going to be a HUGE problem for Khate in the future. If she ever tries to get the kids on TV again, Jon will be able to use this fiasco, in court, to prevent her.
As has already been stated, we don't know if Jon's hiring an attorney to look into this will result in a lawsuit, but if it does, that's going to be one big old mess that will likely keep any media far away from Khate (not that anyone wants to hire her now, as it is). And, they certainly won't want to use the kids on any show at all. Also, if there ever is a lawsuit and a settlement (which is much more likely than having it go to trial), it would probably be put into a trust for the kids and completely untouchable by Khate, unlike what little TLC money they got the last year or two.
Khate looked terrible before for not responding other than saying she never heard of him and then immediately plugging her website and then her View appearance, but now she looks really awful because we finally see a NORMAL parental reaction from Jon. As Admin and others have said, Jon's reaction is exactly how we had been saying any parent would respond. They'd freak out upon hearing the news of the perverts arrest and immediately want to know if the police found any footage or photos of their kids in his personal possession.
Of course, the sheeple on twitter are going after Jon. They couldn't care less about the kids, just that this story makes Khate look bad. They're really a sick bunch.
In this case it would be the children's money not jon's. He didn't say anything about getting $$$ he said what any good concerned parent would: I want to know what footage this guy had and if my kids were involved. I can't think of a more appropriate response. His hearts in te right place and his head.
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Oh, and have any of the other families come out with a statement? Weren't the Duggars involved too? Anyone know?
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Good point. Were other kids filmed getting bathed and potty trained etc? Anyone know?
Thank you Jon, at least the children have you to express outrage over this pedophile having access to you children's being filmed. I never thought I could think worse of Kate than I already did but what a slimey piece of work she is in not caring about her children having their pictures in the hands of a molester. How could she appear on the view and not have this situation mentioned? Seems that she or TLC pulled the "ongoing investigation" card and prearranged to avoid this subject. Do these ladies of the view really consider themselves "journalists" by side stepping this? Is it also true that she had dinner in NY on Monday and did not take her children trick or treating? How horrible can that woman really be? If nothing else, here's hoping that this puts a nail in the coffin of any future film projects that involve the Gosselin Children.
Well, Tucker'sMom, the Duggars wouldn't allow their children to be naked in front of strangers. Imagine that?
Another excellent blog post by Sue Buddy:
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980704554
Go Sue, go :o)
I assume Kate will say her absence on Halloween is because they don't "do" Halloween at her house for religious reasons. She's back on track to go for the church angle again......
As a good father, Jon is taking the iniative. The sad part of this is that the parents have not communicated with each other on this, which could have a very disturbing affect on their children. Jon has indicated he will be contacting her BY E-MAIL.
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Thanks Canuck. I'm not on twitter.
Folks, Emma is entitled to her opinion. She isn't the first person to comment and then immediately be labeled a "sheeple" here and honestly I find it a tad annoying and rather bullying behavior.
I agree, I don't understand the Ellen tie in per se except that it appears Emma feels that if Jon scaled back Ellen's involvement with the kids perhaps Kate would be more willing to amicably co-parent with Jon.
Emma, if that is your position, I respectfully disagree. The issues Kate has with Jon go way back, long before Ellen entered the picture. While I agree it is sad that they can't seem to put their differences aside for the kids, I also need to remember that I don't know them nor am I really involved in the situation.
The Star may have interviewed Jon when the news first broke and in that light then obviously he wouldn't have
contacted Kate yet. Or Jon may have wanted to speak with an attorney first so when he spoke with Kate he had all the information at hand regarding their rights rather than just speculating. He may be sending her an email so that the information is in writing and neither can come back at a later date and say "Wait, you never told me that!"
As for Kate, it behooves her to keep silent and let TLC handle things. She may still be under certain restrictions, even though the show is cancelled.
My point is we can only speculate what's happening based on what Kate or Jon share. We know Kate has said she doesn't know Bill Blankenship. We know Jon is concerned, has stated that he has met the man and has contacted the police in N.C. and an attorney to determine if his children's images were part of Mr. Blankenship's collection and if their images were distributed.
The rest is pure speculation. I hope all the TLC children were not vicarious victims in this situation but, if so, then that the truth will be known and that in any case that this event will convince more people of the need for Federal labor legislation to provide protection for all children working in any form of media/entertainment.
What does that mean?
Jon shouldn't see his gf cuz it bothers Kate?
Jon was bothered by Kate traveling with Purseboy, did she give a shit?
Ellen is very good to the kids and it probably the only female role-model they have (who isn't using them to make them famous or rich). If anything, I'd love to see Jon and Ellen get married and get total custody.
Scale down? bwahahahaha WHY?
So one is telling Kate to keep it zipped she is so mum on twitter
Interesting article in the NY Daily News
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“I married for love,” Kim Kardashian posted on her official website Tuesday. “I can’t believe I even have to defend this. I would not have spent so much time on something just for a TV show!”
That’s nothing but a lie, Jonathan Jaxson, her former publicist and owner of JJ Public Relations, tells RadarOnline.com.
“I staged so many paparazzi moments for her,” reveals Jaxson, who helped Kardashian through her Ray J sex tape scandal and her split with NFL player Reggie Bush.
“When we first met it was all about her getting publicity and turning her into a star. She’s very selfish and knows what she wants her image to be,” he says.
Kardashian, 31, was a quick study in the fame game.
“She would call and tell me to alert the press so there were cameras there whenever anything happened,” says Jaxson.
Before this year’s Kris Humphries marriage circus began, Jaxson had a hand in orchestrating another “fairytale moment” for Kardashian.
“I arranged for her to be coming out of a jewelry store and made it look like Reggie was planning to propose to her,” he claims, noting the constant push for publicity is part of the reason the two eventually called it quits in 2009. “Reggie cottoned on to it and he didn’t like it … he couldn’t handle the fame and her desire for it.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/kim-kardashian-called-selfish-ex-publicist-knew-marriage-a-bad-p-move-article-1.971147
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It ain't "reality", folks.
Notice that one beau allegedly couldn't stand the publicity, and the now-ditched husband is reported to have been foolish enough to take the romance seriously. "Reality" TV seems to be hard on relationships. Who wudda guessed?
Scale down? said...
What does that mean?
Jon shouldn't see his gf cuz it bothers Kate?
Jon was bothered by Kate traveling with Purseboy, did she give a shit?
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I agree! Jon appears to be in a supportive and loving relationship with his GF.
I have to say that whole Kardashian spectacle disgusts me. I was never a fan of this family, but my teenage daughter thought Kim was cool. Once she heard about the divorce it was over for my daughter.
Hopefully with all of this nonsense lately about "reality television", we will start to see it fade away.
Getting all geared up to speak tomorrow at PennState Eberly Campus at noon! I cannot wait to meet all who attend! Speaking is SO much fun!!
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Too bad she has no speaking skills! It may be fun for her, but painful for her audience.
In "Kate-Speak" she probably thinks she made a factual statement.
She'll later admit she met him, but that doesn't mean she knows him.
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Didn't she tweet that she never heard of him, not that she never met him or that she doesn't know him? Her cleverly-crafted words are not going to work this time. This isn't saying that she got a good bra, while avoiding the question if she got implants. SHE NEVER HEARD OF HIM means just that.
Emma, you never answered several really good questions about why in the HECK you would even bring up Ellen? Jon didn't bring her up. No one brought her up but you.
I think it's funny that Kate is speaking at noon on a Thursday for an hour. So who's going to spend their entire lunch hour listening to this woman's pity party parade and hissy little woe-is-me sighs? Even if I lived two minutes away and they paid me, I wouldn't spend my lunch hour that way. I'd rather run hot piano wire through my eyeballs.
She is a despicable, disgusting excuse of a "parent." She's been whoring those kids out since they were infants and if she still could, she would, pedophiles be damned.
Jon's reaction is the normal parent's reaction. I would imagine his attorney's first question to authorities will be WERE my kids in any of the materials siezed? That would be my very first question.
Emma said... It's ridiculous that Jon and Kate can't put aside their differences at a time like this and together determine what to do for their children.
I know everyone here wants to solely blame Kate, but Jon isn't helping matters with his passive-agressive attitude. He needs to leave Ellen out of this, and most of his dealings with Kate and the kids. I'm happy he has found a long-term girlfriend, but imo she is far too involved in the little time Jon spends with the children. He knows Kate can't stand Ellen, and he needs to be the bigger person and keep Ellen the in the background.
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Hi, Emma. I didnt find Jon's statement to be passive-agressive at all. He said this is terrible and that he, as their father, needs to find out if this wacko was using any film of the Gosselin children. He points out that the camera operators did indeed have film of the children naked. I dont see anything passive OR underhandedly aggressive in that.
Is there more to the statement that isnt being reported? He referred to Ellen in his statement? If there is something about his visitation time could you let us know? I havent read the rest of the posts so you have probably cleared up your post by now with more info.
Kate,as a mother, has to be upset with this whole thing but,her non-chalant attitude is letting all the sex offenders and preverts in her area think she doesn't give a damn.And that's scary!
Who cares about snow... Totally agree, and she demonstrates her lack of care (really scary) by twitting and blogging about exactly where her kids are, bus stop times, etc. while she is OUT OF TOWN!
Kate never said anything bad about Ellen. Not once. And we know Kate can't shut her mouth. Makes me think shes not nearly as bothered by her as her sheeple.
Didn't Kate spell his name wrong on twitter when she said that she'd never heard of him? Kate will eventually pull an Emily Litella "Oh, BlankInship...I though you said BlankEnship. Never mind."
Why would anyone even respond to this "Emma"...she sounds like she has a couple of screws lose...
who cares about snow said...
Kate,as a mother, has to be upset with this whole thing
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If by "has to be upset" you mean "may make her life harder", then I agree.
I don't think she's at all upset about the vulnerability of her kids. Her only concern is how everything affects HER. Time and time again she has shown that her only priority is ME, ME, ME.
The kids don't exist for her except as a means to an end. The end is celebrity and money for Kate. Period.
No phrase that begins "as a mother" will ever be relevant to Kate. She's not a mother in any real sense. She only gave birth, two, count 'em, two times.
Emma said...
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He needs to leave Ellen out of this, and most of his dealings with Kate and the kids.
I'm happy he has found a long-term girlfriend, but imo she is far too involved in the little time Jon spends with the children.
He knows Kate can't stand Ellen, and he needs to be the bigger person and keep Ellen the in the background.
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1. "He needs to leave Ellen out of this"
Who even said that Ellen is part of this? How is she even involved at all and what made you jump to that conclusion?
2. "his dealings with Kate and the kids"??
Again, who said or knows whether or not, or how much, Ellen is involved in Jon's dealings with Kate and the kids"??
3. "imo she is far too involved in the little time Jon spends with the children"
And that opinion is based on what? I don't recall seeing much about how Jon spends his time with his kids, while Kate has documented her life on Twitter, her blog, and in the media. Please enlighten us as to how you are able to conclude that Ellen "is far too involved".
For that matter, please explain your basis for concluding there is "little time Jon spends with the children". This blog and the posters here have done a pretty good job of looking at Khate's schedule, travels, and time a-twittering. Based on that and the very long day that the kids have, it appears that Kate does not exactly spend a whole lot of time with the kids. Maybe a few hours each afternoon and evening, while there's also a "sitter" there, as Kate has stated on Twitter. Also, Kate has repeatedly left the kids during the week AND during "her" weekends to pursue her own interests. Since you seem to know so much about Jon, please share with us how he handles his time with them. Does he leave them with sitters for hours on end, or overnight, on his time?
4. "He knows Kate can't stand Ellen"
Really? And you know that how? If that's the case how is that Jon's problem? Should an ex-spouse only date people that are acceptable to his/her former spouse? I would think the main concern for any parent would be whether the kids like the person, get along with her, and enjoy time spent with her. You know, kind of how the kids just loved, loved, loved spending time with the crew and the cameras in their faces for hours on end during so much of Kate's custody time.
5. "he needs to be the bigger person and keep Ellen the in the background."
Again, how do you know so much about Ellen and Jon? What does that even mean "keep her in the background"? Should she not be around the kids at all when Jon has them at his home?
I think the only reason others have called you a "sheeple" is because the sheeple blogs just love to rant on and on about Ellen even though she is hardly ever seen or heard from, so I'm not sure where they get their info. They also rant away and bash Ellen and Jon on Twitter, especially when something negative comes out about Kate. So, I guess that means we will be seeing a lot more of this.
There are numerous professonals who say that keeping a girlfriend in the background is actually detrimental to kids because they feel left out, not included in, the new life their dad is building without their mommy. According to many experts Jon is absolutely doing the right thing including Ellen in his time with the kids.
In other news . . .
Kate has a JOB! Sort of.
http://www.eonline.com/news/marc_malkin/kate_gosselins_got_new_job/272992#ixzz1cZwdHyVo
If this actually makes her some money, I say great. On the other hand, how does one blog about coupons, the bulk of which are now Internet-related, when one has very little tech savvy and no researching skills?
Kudos, Katie!
Isn't this like closing that barn door after the horses have escaped? Why would either parent allow the children to be filmed being bathed, on the potty, or diapered without know who has access to this film? Hindsight is 20/20. If they signed a waiver giving permission for this filming, would Figure 8/TLC be able to declare that they are not liable?
I hope that the attorneys can maneuever their way around any loophole and slap them with any and all damages. Good for Jon in coming forward. Shame on Kate.
For what it's worth, the only Benihana in Manhattan is closed, according to their website.
Never been, wanted to look at the prices.
Either Kreider is playing stupid or she's trying to stay on the good side of TLC to get more gigs.
Don't forget, she had TLC backed lawyers help keep Jon in check when he wanted the filming stopped. And somehow the stupid divorce judge in Pennsylvania seems to agree with this. Who is that douche bag and does he have egg on his face big time now. She can keep playing bleached possum, but I have a feeling once the investigation gets underway, more crap is going to hit the fan.
By the way, if anybody is near that satellite campus or knows someone there can report back if anyone went to that stupid speaking engagement, it will be much appreciated. Purse Boy looks really stupid now that he backed a lame horse or he's been doing the cow all this time.
Kate Gosselin has a new job.
Nope, she's not returning to television, but...
READ: House star Odette Annable Talks About Starting a Family
The Kate Plus 8 star is now blogging about—get ready for it!—coupons!
We kid you not.
Gosselin has scored a gig at CouponCabin.com.
"No matter how much money you have, it's just smart to use coupons," she tells me. "It's like free money in your pocket."
Her first blog post debuts on Nov. 22 about shopping for the holidays.
The onetime Dancing With the Stars contestant said she started clipping coupons before she had any of her kids, but the habit definitely took off when she became a mom. "One week, I remember saving more than half my grocery bill that week with coupons," she said. "I was beyond thrilled."
http://www.eonline.com/news/marc_malkin/kate_gosselins_got_new_job/272992?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories
"He points out that the camera operators did indeed have film of the children naked"
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So the father of these kids has said, "“Of course we filmed potty training… Any parent would be freaked out by this, because the cameraman definitely shot the kids getting ready for bed, being showered and being changed.”
There are sheeple, such as Troll Kimmie, who said that she never saw it, and therefore it never happened. I guess she and others would never believe it, even though it came right out of Jon's mouth and HE WAS THERE! It's raw footage, sheeple! Gawd, how dense are those sheeple? Is there a brain cell among the whole flock?
Who is that douche bag and does he have egg on his face big time now.
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The judge was following the law. It didn't matter if he opposed filming or not. It didn't matter if he was repulsed by the whole idea of dragging the kids around to be filmed. She had a contract to honor. He decided on the evidence before him, not how he personally felt. As a judge, he did what he was supposed to do, regardless if anyone thought he was slime for doing it. I would suspect that most of us would want a judge to render a decision based on facts, not on his/her personal feelings.
Did most of us agree with his findings? Of course not, but it wasn't our decision. The question was not whether the kids should be filmed, but who had the right to make that decision on the kids behalf. Kate did, and she wouldn't back down.
Wouldn't it be interesting if Jon would come out and say that of course Kate was with him when he met the pervert, she knows who he is and had contact with him?
If she is truly excited to speak at this small campus on a Thursday at noon...she might be disappointed. Like a lot of college people I don't think at that time frame she is going to be getting a lot. Afternoon classes, lunch breaks, study time, time between classes, laundry, any number of other things people in college tend to do on a weekday. The last thin I would consider is going to listen to a former reality TV star mom of 8 on how to be resilient. Is she going to lock herself into a utility closet again and cry to Steve if people don't show up or it is minimal?
Why Kate refuses to bring up the whole issue with the arrest really speaks to me anyway that she is hoping it will go away and be resolved and not create any problems for her and HER career. I am glad Jon might be able to do something. From the past doesn't sound like he has been able to do much of anything. But since Kate is not longer with TLC, who is going to get to be in her corner?
Finally we get an honest, true parental reaction. Jon's reaction just makes Kate's look that much worse. I believe Kate thinks she's being honest when she says she never heard of Blankinship. She's said herself she doesn't notice other people. She could have been introduced to him numerous times, sat in meetings with him, even shared meals with him and still "never heard of him" because she didn't bother to learn his name. "Mr. Editor Man" is correct.
I love how the Sheeple automatically assume that, if Jon files a lawsuit, it's automatically about $$$. Not all lawsuits are about money. The suit coule be in insure that all footage of the kids is destroyed and that, if any was distributed to porn sites, that it is immediately pulled. I do hope there is money involved, though, and that it is put into trust for the kids, for their education and future therapy needs.
I'm going to paraphrase a famous quote here. The older readers/commenters and history buffs will get it LOL. I know mothers. Mothers are friends of mine. And you, Kate, are no mother.
Ooops. Forgot to sign my post. Sorry. "Anonymous" at 1:12 P.M. is readerlady.
readerlady
The judge could have ruled against the contract terms if it was in the children's best interest. This power overrules everything but criminal court. He had the power but chose to honor the contract. Another judge could have come out differently on this hence our frustration.
Gift of grab said... In other news . . .
Kate has a JOB! Sort of.
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Is this for real? And, if so, doesn't that Extreme Couponing show have this topic covered??? The couponers on that show make couponing a "job" -- working at it for 35 hours a week, keeping detailed, *organized* notebooks full of coupons, studying each stores circulars, etc etc. There is no way Kate could do it any better than they do -- what could anyone possibly learn from Kate that the Extreme ladies haven't already taught us? Perhaps that you should emasculate your husband if he forgets to use a coupon, but other than that Kate has *nothing* on the Extreme Couponers.
When will someone just throw a bucket of water on that witch????????
"The judge was following the law. It didn't matter if he opposed filming or not. It didn't matter if he was repulsed by the whole idea of dragging the kids around to be filmed. She had a contract to honor."
That's right, Kate had a contract to honor, not the kids. I didn't know Pennsylvania had a law where children can be sold as commodities. If he is a family court judge, isn't it his duty to put the health and happiness of the kids above all else? Considering how high profile the family is, why wasn't an advocate called in to represent the interests of the kids separate from the 2 divorcing parents? Somebody dropped the ball or somebody got bought.
Look at her newest tweets....she's trying to cover her ass & throw Jon under the bus. Thought she "had never heard of him", but now she's doing something about it? Bet she didn't do crap until Jon did it first.
Re: her costume on the View. A coworker saw the picture and said: "Of course! The kids are always in her hair."
One of the twit's latest tweets:
"Re news issue at hand, I'm dealing w it properly.Serves 0 purpose2run2 tabs esp w/o all facts.not helpful 2 any1...other than 2 make quick$"
Yes she is trying to cover her a$$. And the part about running to tabs without all the facts. Is she withholding information from Jon. He is their father and he has a right to know everything that is going on regarding his children, especially regarding a situation like this. Instead of voicing her concern for her children, she is using it to attack their father. She's scum.
If what she tweets is true. If she truly was doing things and didn't feel it appropriate to comment, then instead of saying she never heard of the person she should have tweeted something along the lines of "Saw the news reports, feel it best to avoid comment until I have all facts." Now she just looks like she's making an excuse bc she did already comment on it.
She's only talking about it now because the blogs are abuzz with the news. By not speaking, she looks like she doesn't care. So, she speaks. She says nothing, but she speaks anyway. Just like always.
LOL @ Kate...You haven't done anything EVER to protect your children. Why would you start now?
The re-tweets of those slamming Jon just goes to show how petty & self centered she is. I'm so disgusted right now. It was bad enough that she acted like she didn't know who the man was and her followers made excuses, but now to act all indigant & slam Jon is just disgusting. How can anyone defend a women who so clearly doesn't care about her own children? How can anyone bash a father who does care enough to say "hey folks, I'm on top of it & taking the right steps"?
Just who are all these man hating women and what drives them to this level of hatred for the fathers of children?
Supposedly Kate got a job having to do with coupons. Now we all know why she was photographed a couple of weeks ago, prominantly displaying her coupons. UGH, hope it lasts as long as her other attempts at stuff without her children. Not too long.
Didn't realize my comments would cause such a stir.
Where is it written that one must like Jon before they can dislike Kate?
I believe Jon is, in his limited time with the kids, a good part-time parent. No, I'm not a fan of his.
Kate? I think she is a terrible parent, and a terrible person. If she has any redeeming qualities I've yet to see them.
You ask why I brought Ellen into this? Because I believe that she is a sore spot in Jon and Kate's current relationship. Ellen has been photographed in a "I love my haters" hat, and did that unfortunate interview on IW. She has made it clear that she doesn't like Kate and the feeling is mutual. Jon needs to respect the feelings of his ex, even though she doesn't respect his. Kate isn't a decent person, that's why I say Jon is the one who is going to have to work out an amicable relationship with Kate so they can co-parent their children. There are eight kids who need them to work together. I believe Ellen's frequent presence in the children's lives has been detrimental to Jon and Kate parenting together.
This is Kate we're talking about. It doesn't have to be rational or fair to make it true.
Kate probably only started looking into this after someone called her and told her Jon had been interviewed. And "looking into it" probably entailed a call to Steve to direct him to handle it.
Kateplusmy834 mins ago
Re news issue at hand, I'm dealing w it properly.Serves 0 purpose2run2 tabs esp w/o all facts.not helpful 2 any1...other than 2 make quick$
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Oh, great. There she goes again.
Was that really necessary? Jon, meet wheels under bus- again.
Well, now that we know Kate is aware of the gravity of this situation, I wonder if she still thinks filming her children for t.v. is o.k.?
Might help Kate's case if every time Jon made a move she didn't try and cover it with a late excuse that she is already dealing with it.
I don't care if you're divorced the least parents can do for their children is put on a united front. Save your issues for somewhere else. Kate not allowing Jon on the property and not sticking with the original agrement which was amicable is ridiculous.
If she says she is dealing with it quietly that would be a first. Seeing as how she lets everyone up front know about her business from the start.
Quit trying to make things harder on yourself by spouting off to the media and fans and sit down--like actualy adults--and work on the problem together. It won't kill you. Okay, maybe it will in Kate's case to be amicable and decent but Twitter and the tabs really are no place to hash out their feelings on such a matter.
Forgot to say that as far as her little coupon gig, I'm laughing. I'm laughing so much.
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@SchmeckyGirl @K_Michele21 @kateplusmy8 Ok I guess I missed that naked epi-do you have a copy to share with us?
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The naked episode clearly was seen on television. Did TLC clean it up, or is it still available (the one with one of the little boys running away from the camera, naked from the waist down)?
"I believe Ellen's frequent presence in the children's lives has been detrimental to Jon and Kate parenting together."
No. What is detrimental to Jon and Kate parenting together is Kate herself. It wouldn't matter who the other woman would be, even if were Mother Teresa herself. Kate's anomosity toward Jon came about long before Ellen appeared on the scene. Even if Jon wouldn't have a girlfriend, Kate would still be slamming Jon any chance she got. Kate never believed he would walk out of the marriage, and will always hold that against him. It is quite clear from the photos and what has been reported that the kids like Ellen. Her presence in their lives have not been detrimental. Quite the contrary. Kate needs to put on her big girl panties and deal with it. Ellen IS in the lives of her children. She, the kids, and Jon should not be punished because the ex may have problems with it.
HAHAHHAAH! A guest spot writing on the couponcabin.com blog?
Hey, if it keeps her off TV, great (and her personality and lack of talent does that, too).
But seriously? I hope she's not thinking that's going to pay the landscapers, pool boy, laundry "girl," not-a-nannies, Purse Boy, private school tuition for eight, groceries, car insurance, gas, clothing, utilities, manicures, pedicures, tanning beds, hair jaunts to New York, etc! After all, according to HER, Jon's child support only covers a few lunches, right?
Girlfriend better get to working on something a hell of a lot bigger than couponcabin.com (especially with her atrocious writing skills!) if she wants to keep the lifestyle she's come to love.
As for her nasty tweets on twitter, she's a nasty person who doesn't care about her kids, that's obvious. ONLY saying something now because Jon said something.
And Star and the likes do NOT pay you for some quotes. Sheesh. If that's true, how much money did Miss Thang make to go on The View and say Jon's opinions have nothing to do with her or the kids' lives? Huh?
God, she's disgusting. I'm out of here. Only so much watching a gross asshole I can take.
Emma, you did a sorry job supporting your points about Ellen. You can't even know 90% of the stuff you're saying, so stop trying to act like you're so neutral. No one's buying it.
If what she tweets is true. If she truly was doing things and didn't feel it appropriate to comment, then instead of saying she never heard of the person she should have tweeted something along the lines of "Saw the news reports, feel it best to avoid comment until I have all facts." Now she just looks like she's making an excuse bc she did already comment on it.
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That's exactly what she should have said. She has no idea how to handle controversial situations because she is just too darn stupid. Her response is to slam Jon again because it's the only thing knows how to do, and does quite well.
I say AMEM to 'Midnight Madness'...of course Ellen is in the children's lives, she has been with Jon for quite sometime. Kate is a woman that didn't want the man, but doesn't want him to be happy with another woman.
Quote from this page:
I've always said that I don't really care, whatever they capture they can use. I think in some of these upcoming episodes perhaps there are some things they've captured that I would, perhaps, it's going to make me squirm. But you know they can use what they capture because I don't care." --Kate Gosselin, August 2011.
This is why they won't be able to sue ove this--the parents CONSENTED to having the kids filmed naked, and to having the footage put on display for the public to see them that way. And then the mother--the MOTHER--says publicly that she doesn't care what they do with it. Too bad, she just lost any lawsuit they could ever hope to file over this. The best they can hope for now is to stop any further distribution of these images, but even then...if the parents agreed to having naked images of their kids displayed publicly,then how can they now claim that it's not okay with them?
Excuse me, I have to go throw up now...
You people wouldn't be happy no matter WHAT Kate does. She secures a small speaking engagement at a college campus. Starts a website and tries her hand at blogging. And now is writing articles for a couponing site. And this pretty much summarizes the general attitude around here:
"UGH, hope it lasts as long as her other attempts at stuff without her children. "
I just wish you would all listen to yourselves once in awhile, stop being so self-righteous, judgmental, critical; stop jumping to conclusions every time Kate says or does something. You have no idea how Kate is REALLY reacting to the news about Blankinship; you only know the face she's putting on it. And if she actually does have NPD like so many of you are sure she does, it seems to me a little empathy is in order, just like you would offer someone who suffered from a different mental illness.
So "Kate doesn't run to the tabs to make a quick$" - what does she think she's doing every time she's interviewed on a talk or radio show or in a (tab?) like People? It's the same damn thing, but she's so used to putting herself out there and have people believe her BS, she believes it herself. She's a piece of work.
i see the E! article has already been posted. Here's a clickable link:
http://www.eonline.com/news/marc_malkin/kate_gosselins_got_new_job/272992
The article links to Coupon Cabin's site, where Khate is prominently displayed on the upper right side:
http://www.couponcabin.com/
When you click that, you get this:
http://www.couponcabin.com/blog/post/press-release-kate-gosselin-scores-new-gig-as-couponcabin-blogger/
Press Release: Kate Gosselin Scores New Gig as CouponCabin Blogger
Posted on November 2nd, 2011 by Diane K
KATE GOSSELIN SCORES NEW GIG AS COUPONCABIN BLOGGER
Self-Professed Coupon Lover to Offer Money Saving Advice
WHITING, Ind., November 1, 2011 – CouponCabin.com, a leading online coupon destination, recently announced that Kate Gosselin, of reality TV fame, will serve as a regularly contributing blogger to offer money-saving advice. Gosselin, who has been seen in the press lately using coupons, has been a longtime advocate of couponing.
“No matter what your financial situation is, there’s no reason not to use coupons. It’s like free money in your pocket!” said Gosselin. “I’m thrilled to lend my expertise to CouponCabin.com, where you can easily find the best deals on practically everything.”
Gosselin will be contributing a weekly post on topics like how to stretch a budget for a large family, holiday shopping tips, gift ideas and more. She will be also be sharing top coupons from CouponCabin.com on her own blog at www.kateplusmy8.com.
“Kate has embraced coupons her entire life,” said Jackie Warrick, President at CouponCabin.com. “We look forward to sharing the unique insight she has gained over the years.”
Kate’s first blog will run on Tuesday, November 22 and will discuss how to navigate the busiest holiday shopping day of the year, Black Friday (November 25). She will discuss tips and tricks about how to score the best deals on great holiday gifts.
About CouponCabin.com
CouponCabin is a leading online destination for coupons including online coupon codes, printables, grocery coupons and more. Shoppers have saved nearly $250 million since 2003 and with the largest selection of coupons guaranteed to work, CouponCabin is the best place to start searching for savings. The average user saves $19 in just 80 seconds on the site. With customized email newsletters, browser savings alerts, new coupon alerts and more, shoppers will never miss out on a great deal with CouponCabin. For more information, please visit http://www.CouponCabin.com.
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Filed Under: Press Releases
After her recent tweet, her new moniker should be....Too little,too late Kate!
Jon responded appropriately. He's getting a lot of support for speaking out.
Regarding Kate throwing Jon under the bus again-
I think she was more pissed that Jon said something first and that HE was the main subject on HER twitter feed.
I just wish you would all listen to yourselves once in awhile, stop being so self-righteous, judgmental, critical; stop jumping to conclusions every time Kate says or does something.
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Aren't you judging us?
"And if she actually does have NPD like so many of you are sure she does, it seems to me a little empathy is in order, just like you would offer someone who suffered from a different mental illness."
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And her NPD excuses her for allowing her kids to be filmed naked, taking the risk of the film getting into the hands of a pervert? We should have empathy for her because of a mental disorder, taking the stance that she didn't know what she was doing because she's mentally ill? GET REAL!
Why am I surprised that Kate threw Jon under the bus -- AGAIN? In the interview, at no point does he say one nasty or mean thing about Kate. He talks about the person that did this terrible thing. He never one time says anything derogatory about Kate. He is outraged, scared and shocked. For Kate to say it does no good to go to a rag, well guess what you idiot Kate, it is the only format you and TLC have left him and all of us are very happy to hear his response to all this. I mean we heard you loud and clear -- oh, that's right you only said you didn't know the guy, not any outrage about his being arrested and now you are screaming on Twitter about Jon and $$$. It must eat her alive that Jon may have been paid and she didn't. Too damn bad Kate, thank you Jon. Sheeple, take a deep breath and get a life.
Wait a minute.... said...
Hey Milo, Paige, PattyPot or whatever the hell your name is, stay on Kate's fan pages. Your BS has no legs here, just like Kate crying poor.
Hey wait a minute, empathy? For Kate? Holy cow, never any empathy for that witch. If anyone at all should stop and listen to themselves once in a while it is you sheeple. Why you all feel such a need to come here and defend Kate when you know how we feel is just beyond me. And please, spare us the 'I don't like Kate either', you shot yourself in the foot with that line a long time ago.
Wait a minute said
"UGH, hope it lasts as long as her other attempts at stuff without her children. "
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Wait, I think a lot of us here would not agree with this statement. Most of us WISH Kate would find something ANYTHING to do that doesn't involve her children.
As far as the speaking "engagement" goes, I think the objections are due to several things -- Kate is delusional and clawing her way to any kind of attention at all, she's desperate to take any kind of gig that will keep her away from her children, and this kind of pointless activity is a distraction that keeps her from facing up to the responsibilities she has as a mother.
A one-hour lunch talk at a remote college campus isn't going to pay her bills any better than a "job" writing for a couponing blog.
There are lots of different points of view here, but don't assume that everyone agrees with the statement you quoted. I don't, and I'm sure a lot of others don't, either. Just the same, it IS fair to criticize Kate's failure to assess her circumstances realistically, and to act responsibly.
Kate's tweets:
Just because you don't see and hear what I'm doing about it, doesn't mean I'm ignoring the issue... I'm not!
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Re news issue at hand, I'm dealing w it properly.Serves 0 purpose2run2 tabs esp w/o all facts.not helpful 2 any1...other than 2 make quick$
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If that is the case, why not contact Jon and brief him on the situation?
And I guess throwing Jon under the bus on national TV was not making a quick$... right?
In case it got lost in the flurry of Kate's most recent self-serving tweets, she confirmed she is going to Australia for Steve Irwin Day.
Now, how does this help with the job search again? Can't imagine the new CouponCabin gig is going to do more than cover a few lunches. . . .
Wait a minute said
"UGH, hope it lasts as long as her other attempts at stuff without her children. "
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Wait, I think a lot of us here would not agree with this statement. Most of us WISH Kate would find something ANYTHING to do that doesn't involve her children.
As far as the speaking "engagement" goes, I think the objections are due to several things -- Kate is delusional and clawing her way to any kind of attention at all, she's desperate to take any kind of gig that will keep her away from her children, and this kind of pointless activity is a distraction that keeps her from facing up to the responsibilities she has as a mother.
A one-hour lunch talk at a remote college campus isn't going to pay her bills any better than a "job" writing for a couponing blog.
There are lots of different points of view here, but don't assume that everyone agrees with the statement you quoted. I don't, and I'm sure a lot of others don't, either. Just the same, it IS fair to criticize Kate's failure to assess her circumstances realistically, and to act responsibly.
Wait a minute said
"UGH, hope it lasts as long as her other attempts at stuff without her children. "
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Wait, I think a lot of us here would not agree with this statement. Most of us WISH Kate would find something ANYTHING to do that doesn't involve her children.
As far as the speaking "engagement" goes, I think the objections are due to several things -- Kate is delusional and clawing her way to any kind of attention at all, she's desperate to take any kind of gig that will keep her away from her children, and this kind of pointless activity is a distraction that keeps her from facing up to the responsibilities she has as a mother.
A one-hour lunch talk at a remote college campus isn't going to pay her bills any better than a "job" writing for a couponing blog.
There are lots of different points of view here, but don't assume that everyone agrees with the statement you quoted. I don't, and I'm sure a lot of others don't, either. Just the same, it IS fair to criticize Kate's failure to assess her circumstances realistically, and to act responsibly.
Wait a minute.... said...
'You have no idea how Kate is REALLY reacting to the news about Blankinship; you only know the face she's putting on it. And if she actually does have NPD like so many of you are sure she does, it seems to me a little empathy is in order'
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Wow...as a mom I would be busy kicking some pervert's a$$ to be on twitter talking about a speaking event...I'm saving my empathy.
I can criticize Kate ALL I want and no, she does NOT deserve empathy especially when she doesn't even seem to have any empathy for her own kids!!!
I can find absolutely nothing redeeming about this woman, and I've been looking--for years. NOTHING. She's a jerk to everyone unfortunate enough to be around her.
Oh and you just found out your kids are possibly in child pornography materials and you're going to run off to Australia? Wow, good parenting, hag.
Administrator said...
The article said Jon Is preparing to take legal action. That could be a lawsuit or could be some other means we'll have to see.
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I had assumed that Jon contacted an attorney in case he had to sue to get all questionable tapes given to him....so he could make sure this Blankinship couldn't ever use them for anything.
I can't really figure out what the damages would be if he wanted to file a lawsuit for compensatory damages.
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Emma~
I agree with you up to a point...but Jon tends to be passive-aggressive and I think all of his admirable behavior the past few years has been mainly due to Ellen. He would need a strong person for that....and she has certainly had a positive effect on his behavior and perspective.
And really, can you blame Ellen? I have seen situations where the ex-wife is trying to be nice, etc....and the new girlfriend is like Ellen (they're usually much, much worse). But this is a different story. Kate is still angry and vengeful and will not cooperate no matter how much Jon tries to negotiate with her....Ellen or no Ellen. If you research info on NPD....these people will hold a grudge forever and maintain the same level of anger years later because their perspective is how dare this person do what I didn't want him/her to do? They can continue to be angry and uncooperative for years and years and won't let go of it.
If it wasn't Kate....but was a nice and negotiable woman, the situation with Ellen could fan the flames...or at least, things might go much more smoothly if she was not in the picture....but with Kate, it's pretty much irrelevant. She won't cooperate whether he has a girlfriend or not. And I think she would be just as uncooperative and vengeful even if Jon had a nice and meek girlfriend.
It just doesn't get any better in Kateworld, tossing the ex under the bus when she is, of course, handing this more appropriately - read that as I'm ignoring this as usual, much too busy with the View, overnights in NYC, my college speaking engagement and now a trip to Australia. Guess her new gig as a guest blogger on a coupon web site makes her a real catch for Steve Irwin day. I really wonder who is footing the bill for her and the boy toy to go Down Under, cuz, folks they will not be making that back on lunch with Prime Time Kate. It's just pathetic. Wonder how many days she is going to squeeze out for this junket - think the kids are home alone with sitters for Thanksgiving in addition to Halloween?
Post from MaryAnn --
Dallas Lady, tell us - how do you REALLY feel?
I don't have to write a word when so many others express my feelings so well!!
Shoka has some words for us today. No pictures.
Dear Humans…
Dear Humans -
Hmmm I don’t think I know you and you’re making a loud mess everyday when you show up on my property! You bring loud equipment, big trucks, and leave lots of doggone leaves and branches lying around!
It’s sure making my hunt for my newest legless chicken ruff! I’m not exactly sure what happened here over the weekend, but I do know that “mommy” was crying while the snow fell and told me to stay away from the trees because branches were falling! She also fed me dinner in the dark?!!
My furless little friends and I did have fun on sleds and making “snow dogs!” They asked me to lay on my back and flap my four legs but it was too tuff – but I tried because I love them!
Now these guys are here cleaning up leaves and branches and I am pacing around madly! Mommy asked me if I was going to help the men and she saw in my eyes that I was saying “I’ll help as much as I help you carry in the groceries!”, which we know how well i do that!
So, my pacing continues – as I search wildly for my chicken! These guys need to learn how to properly treat a dog while working on his property! I need to find my chicken so I can teach them how to play with me!
Regardless, they stop to pat and pet me so I’m happy for that! They are nice guys!
Can’t wait til it’s quiet here so I can take my nap and be rested up before my furrless brothers and sisters come bounding out of the big blue bus with lotsa hugs and kisses for me!
Ahhh, the life of a dog in a big family!
Can’t beat it!
….anyone seen my chicken??
Woof!
Shoka
Kate is a woman that didn't want the man, but doesn't want him to be happy with another woman.
Personally I (sheeple, I'm not speaking for ANYONE else) that Kate doesn't want Jon to be period.
No, I'm not saying she wished him harm, but I think she wishes him GONE.
FYI...Ellen has been touting CouponCabin for awhile on her blog...hehe
RE: Jon saying in the article he hasn't talked to Kate and plans to email her.
He mentioned on his twitter feed that he gave the interview because so many people were asking for a comment and that it wasn't his fault that they held it until today.
I got the impression he gave it shortly after the news broke and it was held until the next issue of the print mag so that is why it's just coming out now. In that context, it makes sense that he hadn't talked to her yet.
He also verified that he did NOT have the kids on Monday for Halloween.
I'm glad all the "imperfect" fans congregate in one place. It's good to know that "like" people find each other. I truly believe all their children are in peril.
They'd rather hide, lie or cover up the news than ever admit that maybe putting kids on tv (nude) isn't the greatest parenting choice.
But, they will NEVA admit it, being imperfect and all.
Newest legless chicken. WTF?
Every single sentence in that piece of crap ends with a ! And sometimes more than one ! Every single sentence. And someone is paying her to write a guest blog?
Twitter is afire with the latest.
Both sides seem to go to extremes with their hatred.
Two things I find unbelivable:
1) Kate blithely stating she'd never heard of the guy the other day. She continued on her happy little tweeting way without pause. What kind of mother does that?
2) Jon's stories, once again, in Star and on ROL. Kate is 100% correct about it being inappropriate to talk to a tab about this. What kind of father does that?
Shame on both of them.
Jon was asked for a comment and gave one. It, in my opinion, was appropriate.
oHIo6, I agree.
I also wish Kate well with her coupon blog job.
O/T for a second if you all don't mind. THIS from a Family Court Judge **WARNING**
this is horrifying. The girl had the good sense to tape her abusers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwAFJbJmSpQ&feature=player_detailpage
Wait a minute.... said...
You people....(blah, blah, blah)
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Please just STOP posting lectures to the people that post here. Thank You!
Kids will find out about "it" as soon as they get to school. Kids talk.
God, she is as dumb as a rock.
Didn't Kate just comment on the View that she never comments about anything Jon says? Also, I would bet that Kate is just lending her face, name and her blog to the coupon site and not really writing the ideas/advice.
This coupon blogging gig should be interesting. Knowing how lazy she is and how she likes to use other people's recipes and insinuate they are her own creations, do you suppose she will just scour the other coupon sites and use their tips as her own. Couponcabin.com says she will also help shoppers navigate Black Friday and give tips and tricks on scoring the best deals. Does she really shop when she has to spend her own money?
I know she does use coupons, but do you think she does to the extent that she can give anyone money saving tips? I'm sure there is someone more knowledgeable than her to share their tips.
Also, I would bet that Kate is just lending her face, name and her blog to the coupon site and not really writing the ideas/advice.
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This is quite possible and I wouldn't have a problem with it. I'm sure she would get paid, one way or another. Can't stand the Donald, but he's made a fair amount of money letting enterprises use his name for money. Only saying it's not unheard of.
Donald had the brains and ability BEFORE stardom...hence his current success.
And the View ISN'T tabloid trash? Statements on Twitter aren't trashy??? They are all on the same level, some are just wrapped UP NICER. These parents don't have a choice, tabloids or tabloid-esque shows or social media are the only forums that will have them. They don't have a nice pretty Gosselin press conference podium to set up shop at.
I think they both have an obligation to address this as do the other TLC people invoLVED> It doesn't matter the forum the speak to it matterrs what was said.
Believe me, I was not equating Kate and the Donald, just making an analogy about "lending your name" for payment.
Twitter has been insane all day. I know I should no longer be shocked, but I was to read tweet after tweet all day from sheeple bashing Jon. They kept saying things like he is only after money, from the "rags", and/or from a possible lawsuit, that this matter should be kept private so as to not put the kids back in the public eye (hypocrisy huh?), etc. Then, of course, Khate finally popped on Twitter and said exactly what her devoted sheeple had been tweeting all day, (as she watched, I'm sure).
The sheeple are clearly more upset about this whole mess making Khate look bad than they ever were about the idea that a perverted child pornographer poured over hundreds of hours of film of the kids. They barely said anything until today, and that was of course just to bash Jon for making headlines expressing his concern and how he is looking into it with the authorities. The sheeple think that makes Khate look bad because she appeared to just blow it off the other day, saying she never heard of the guy. Within minutes of that tweet last Friday, Khate plugged her latest blog post, and then she plugged her View appearance. If she really had been concerned, she would have immediately gotten off Twitter and on the phone.
She also didn't need to leave the kids, yet again, to go to The View for a WASTED eight minute segment that accomplished nothing. Was it really worth missing Halloween with the kids? Jon didn't have them so I guess they were stuck home with a teen babysitter. What a strange life - LAST year, Halloween was a huge extravaganza thanks to TLC's money and crew. With TLC paying and filming it, Khate shopped for costumes at Party City, filled a shopping cart up with decorations, and then just showed up to the completely tricked out basement haunted house that the crew set up. This year? After a snow storm and a day or so with no power, mom takes off to NYC and the kids stay home with the sitter. Nice. Hey, Khate has to party, right? Halloween this year was ALL about Khate and only Khate, not the kids at all. Thankfully, Jon did something the weekend he had them (more than a week before Halloween).
As a mommy blogger, Khate has already failed miserably. October and Halloween came and went without any posts about cute fall craft ideas, costume ideas, fall baking recipes, etc., all with photos. Her blog is so, so boring and still all about her. The lame dog posts are truly embarrassing. She gives no helpful info to a reader and is light years behind thousands of other terrific blogs out there. For that reason she will never build a base and increase her hits beyond the most devoted sheeple. It's rather surprising that the coupon site would hire her to blog after seeing the blogs she "writes" on her site. I'm wondering if the coupon site will just write them for her and stick her name on them. Of course, we will all be able to tell whether or not it is in fact written by Khate.
LOL, I see that Khate tweeted about an hour ago with a link to the press release on the coupon site, the one I linked to in a post above.
Admin, I agree, the View is visual tabloid trash, as is most daytime 'news'. Kate should 'look' before she speaks.
'Rhymes with Witches'
Your analogy is correct...a $$ whore is a $$ whore.
". . .it seems to me a little empathy is in order."
I will show Kate all the empathy she showed her sick and feverish son when she left him in the dark on the laundry room floor so he wouldn't vomit on his bedding. I will show Kate all the empathy she showed her frightened and hysterical son when she threatened to throw away his "lovey" when he got a little gum on it. I will show Kate all the empathy she showed her sons when denying them their birthday cupcakes while allowing their sisters to eat theirs. I will show Kate all the empathy she showed her older daughters while holding a 3rd birthday party for the tups 6th birthday. I will show Kate all the empathy she showed her husband when he grew tired of the constant filming and wanted to go back to being a normal family. I will show Kate all the empathy she has shown Aunt Jodi, Uncle Kevin, Beth, Ashley, her parents, Jon's family and all the other people she's cut out of the children's lives. In short, I will show Kate all the empathy that she shows others, which is NONE!
readerlady
Today's tweets:
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
Getting all geared up to speak tomorrow at PennState Eberly Campus at noon! I cannot wait to meet all who attend! Speaking is SO much fun!!
November 2nd, 11:57 AM
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
Re news issue at hand, I'm dealing w it properly.Serves 0 purpose2run2 tabs esp w/o all facts.not helpful 2 any1...other than 2 make quick$
November 2nd, 4:14 PM
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
Just because you don't see and hear what I'm doing about it, doesn't mean I'm ignoring the issue... I'm not!
November 2nd, 4:15 PM
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @christine3465 @Kateplusmy8 kate is it tru ur going2b part of steve irwin day?Loved him dearly! ABSOLUTELY!CANT WAIT2C IRWINS/HELP CAUSE!
November 2nd, 4:29 PM
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ICYou1
@Kateplusmy8 Supporters realize that u r not sweeping this under the rug-no need 2 keep upsetting kids-they need u 2be positive & consoling.
November 2nd,
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@ICYou1 agreed but kids aren't aware.I'd like to keep it that way :)
November 2nd, 4:30 PM
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Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @dawn28789 @Kateplusmy8 Are you talking about the recently convicted Child P that was working on ur show.sadd. YES,THAT IS ISSUE I MEANT
November 2nd, 4:31 PM
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
RT @METQQ @Kateplusmy8 I didnt think that at all but I bel in a situation as serious as this less is more-noX 2run2a rag-4what end? EXACTLY
November 2nd, 4:33 PM
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
Help! I can't tweet! This is a test... Testing testing 1-2-3...
November 2nd, 5:25 PM
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
Good news! Over time I've learned a lot about how 2 stretch a budget!Excited 2 share my tips as a blogger @CouponCabin! bitly.com/rQdads
November 2nd, 5:59 PM
I'm sorry Kate has narcissism but I direct my sympathies towards her victims, the children. Mental illness I not an excuse to mistreat people.
Kate Gosselin:
Re news issue at hand, I'm dealing w it properly.Serves 0 purpose2run2 tabs esp w/o all facts.not helpful 2 any1...other than 2 make quick$
2 hours ago via Twitterrific
Just because you don't see and hear what I'm doing about it, doesn't mean I'm ignoring the issue... I'm not!
2 hours ago via Twitterrific
ICYou1
@Kateplusmy8 Supporters realize that u r not sweeping this under the rug-no need 2 keep upsetting kids-they need u 2be positive & consoling.
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Kate Gosselin
@ICYou1 agreed but kids aren't aware.I'd like to keep it that way :)
2 hours ago via Twitterrific
RT @METQQ @Kateplusmy8 I didnt think that at all but I bel in a situation as serious as this less is more-noX 2run2a rag-4what end? EXACTLY
2 hours ago via Twitterrific
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I wonder if Kate hasn't made an official statement because TLC is not allowing her or the other families to speak up about this recent event. I haven't seen comments about the Duggars or Hayes making any statements...even TLC. Just Figure 8. It would be possible, if she's still under contract.
I do agree that she could have made a general statement (tweet) immediately that she understands people's concerns and that she is aware of the situation but has no comment at this moment. Then, no retweeting or replying to people's comments related to this situation.
Ignoring it for this long then throwing Jon under the bus with those comments is not the best way of handling this.
Jon seeking legal action is doing the right thing. It's better to take precaution with a lawyer and see what information and evidence the authorities have, than to sit and wait and hope for the best.
I don't believe gossip magazines or celebrity sites have to pay for every statement a celeb makes. An exclusive interview is another thing, but I'll hold my opinion until someone gets hold of the Star magazine's full interview with Jon (as mentioned at the end of the RadarOnline article).
I find it hypocritical that Kate is making a statement like this about Jon's actions when she had exclusive interviews with People about their marriage BEFORE there was an official statement about them getting a divorce. Didn't she get paid for those interviews, even though the public didn't have all the facts from both sides? Was that in the best interest for her kids?
I have sympathy for people with mental illness, but I believe that children need to be protected from parents incapable of properly protecting their children due to mental instability.
Kate is making the D-list rounds. The View, she was probably a filler since someone cancelled. Penn State, remote campus. Steve Irwin Day, far away and not much international publicity. Coupon, never heard of them until today. Got to give it to Kate that she's trying to find something, but is clearly being offered "seconds". I say go ahead and find work. It won't be the A-list work that you always believed you were due. That ship has sailed.
If she was really smart she would be on every network in America saying how much she is outraged by all of this! Stupid bi***! Then, she could have HUGE media coverage.
Jon needs to contact Paul Peterson of A Minor Consideration, NOW. It is time! Take a look at Paul's facebook page and/or website.
KEEP ALL KIDS SAFE!
If she was really smart she would be on every network in America saying how much she is outraged by all of this! Stupid bi***! Then, she could have HUGE media coverage.
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I disagree. She would be admitting that she allowed these kids to be filmed in stages of undress, on the potty, etc., not taking into account that strangers would have access to the raw videos. The outrage against her would be much greater than any positive media coverage.
I agree with Warmth of The Sun----- The Little People Big World would not even let cameras in their daughters bedroom. There are PLENTY of GREAT opportunites to film kids WITHOUT using ANY bathrooms stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! J & K were wrong to allow any of it- I bet Jon is kicking himself for not putting his foot down with Kate looong ago.
Re CouponCabin, this company just raised $54mm in "strategic growth" capital. So she might actually be able to earn a living. I don't believe for one second that she will actually write anything original for them. I think this will be more along the lines of her lending her (well, Jon's) name to the endeavor, with appropriately focused marketing spiels written under her name. Strategic growth implies an aggressive marketing campaign, and perhaps they think she would make the perfect billboard, if you will, on which to launch it ("Kate, Kate, Great Rebate Mom of Eight!" I'm sure Milo will come up with some winners for her Queen).
And she might very well do PR for the company, which could involve travel. Kate said just recently that she is a "better Mommy" when she is home for one week, traveling the next (I doubt it not). So, this is a potential major plus for the kids. And work-related travel would give her "road manager" a raison d'etre (at least one more convincing than managing her whilst she stays at home), therefore, a win-win for Kate and Stevie. (Hope the company understood that he needs to be paid for separately.) There might also be significant freebies to be had--can you just IMAGINE how giddy Kate would be if it all evolved in this way?
All in all, I think Kate could well end up in pig heaven with this sort of gig. Little work, just the face and the "brand," thank you, and lots of perks. Assuming they manage to keep her in check . . .
The idea about Kate blogging about couponing really made my eyes roll when I read it (on a couponing blog ironically). She knows nothing about couponing. I remember the episode where she used coupons at the grocery store and she bragged about how she saved $10 on close to $200 of groceries. While any type of savings is good savings, I thought that wasn't the work of an avid couponer. But she was giving the impression that she was couponing expert.
When or if Kate realizes how much work couponing takes she'll tire of it quickly. I have couponed for years (no I'm not an extreme couponer like that awful show on TLC), and it is a lot of work. But I happen to enjoy it so it's not really work for me. Plus I'm able to donate really great stuff for care packages for the troops with the savings. You have to pay attention and be organized (which is the bigget challenge for me because I'm not organized in any other part of my life LOL).
Kate knows about as much about couponing and following the sales as she does about child rearing, which is not a lot.
Yeah know, Kate blasts nursing as not a job that makes good money(more like it is too much work). Couponing is easy work, not much to do there. Kate is still not providing for her kids. This blogging does not have health insurance: for her or the kids. Most people who have kids, and work, usually want a job that has health insurance. This proves Kate is only thinking of Kate not her kids. Kate would make way more money nursing and have health insurance(even if Jon's insurance covers the kids, not Kate, does she not want health coverage for herself? unless TLC is still covering her & the kids)Did Kate not say sometime ago, she takes some meds for something, and the kids take meds for allergys?
Which makes me think, that maybe they were filming the kids on Halloween, if Kate said that the film crew were coming to the house to "play and dress the kids" for what filming?
And Jon was asked a question, and he answered it. Kate has never gotten over Jon leaving her. Jon & Kate should have a relationship, of respect and exceptance and work together for the kids, and yes Ellen is a part of this family to a point. This child porn thing is a Jon & Kate thing, Ellen I hope stays in the back ground for support. What I'm tryin to say, all the adults, need to work together, to make sure that perv, did not make pics from that footage he edited, and send/put on the internet, cause those pics once they are on the net are there for forever.
Please just STOP posting lectures to the people that post here. Thank You!
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Amen! I am so sick of these sheeple wandering into another pasture and defending their Queen Ewe at any cost. What they should be outraged about is the real victims in this -- THE CHILDREN! It is mind-boggling that they have so much wool in their eyes that they are blind to the fact that these kids were filmed in various stages of undress and that any predator could have access to raw footage. It doesn't bother them at all as long as Kate doesn't look bad.
Jon certainly called this when he came out a long time ago and said that it bothered him greatly that his kids were put out there for any pedophile. Kate wasn't concerned. Sadly, his premonition came true, but at least he is going to have this fully investigated. Good for him. I think this is probably the moment he dreaded, anticipated, but couldn't believe it when it really happened.
The twit's tweets said...Jon -- pursue this to the fullest extent of the law. Create some noise about this, drum up concern about, not just your kids, but ALL KIDS IN REALITY TV WHO HAVE NO PROTECTION while Kate's silence says it all.
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I agree that this needs to be brought up to attention for every family involved in reality tv. I recall watching Tori&Dean and, in one episode, their son was parading around butt naked while his parents were laughing and commenting about it. I also remember seeing a clip where Bethenny Frankel was bathing her child (not a one-second, quick shot). The Jones family has been filming for season three of their TLC show, and the father has tweeted his quints are potty-training. Did they film any of it for the show?
This situation brings to light just how many people are involved in making these reality shows. This isn't like making a home video, where you have full control of who films it and who has access to the raw footage. I think these families are not keenly aware of how many people have access to these raw, unedited footages of their children. The cameraman and producer aren't the only ones involved in making the entire show. So while these families might trust their film crew, how can you trust the others who work on the show with access to your family's raw footage? Or what happens with all their raw footage - is it stored in a secured, restricted-access room or permanently destroyed?
Ok a little OT: I heard this on the radio today: about Justin Bieber: who might have fathered a kid, with a 19-20 year woman. I heard 2 reports, that she is pregnant, or the baby was born. Anyway the DJ said that they could go on the Maury show and do DNA, then they can get a reality show called: Leave it to Bieber. I thought it was funny as hell.
While we're on the issue of the child pornographer editor, I have to mention this. As I've said many times, I was never a fan of the show and never watched more than a couple of minutes years ago. But, when all the rumors and divorce craziness was everywhere you turned back in the spring/summer of 2009, I decided to check out an episode to see for myself. What I saw was a cold bitch who seemed to dislike her kids as much as she did her husband, and anyone who happened to be around her. That made me Google around for info, and I eventually landed here.
So, that spring and summer, I watched a couple of the newer episodes, including that sad birthday party (5th) at the park in the middle of the divorce. I read a lot here about some of Khate's more horrific moments that I had never seen, like "gummy gate", which I eventually saw a clip of. I also caught about three episodes when they re-aired, including the one where they moved into the new house. Other than those few episodes, I just read the recaps here as they went through the divorce and continued on with Khate's solo show.
Okay, so I never really saw much of the show from when the kids were young, even though I've seen certain things referred to a lot, like the potty training and the nudity of the kids. Well, a few days ago, I was looking at posts at Preesi's site and someone had posted a YouTube clip of that entire episode famous for the "Hannah pooped in Hannah's unnerwears". So, having never seen it, or even more than a few minutes of the show from when the kids were that young, I watched the entire clip (this was right after the child porn news came out). Here it is:
YouTube
Even though I had read so much about this episode and what the show was like back then, I was just flabbergasted. I cannot even fathom letting cameras roll while I potty trained my kids. I'm a mom who has been through it all, and I didn't care to watch that at all! I was cringing, thinking who does this?! It's so sick to me to think that she had camera guys standing there and filming as pants were being pulled down for potty training, and then as Hannah was standing up on the dresser with no clothes on. WHY did any of that get included in an episode?? Wasn't there enough about this large family to make an episode? Who wants to see that??? Oh yeah, pedophiles and perverts. It makes me want to puke.
Also, what the hell is the potty chair situation about? Khate proudly discussed how she had several potty chairs on the bedroom floor, the basement (wth?) and I think the bathroom. First of all, I hate those potty chairs, although I know some people like them. I find it gross and just one more thing to clean. I used the soft cushioned potty insert/"ring" that just goes on a regular toilet seat. I didn't think it made sense to train kids on a potty seat that sits on the floor, and then have to train them to use a real toilet. And, sorry, but I didn't want to clean out a potty seat all day, gross! Just flush it. All my bathrooms (and those at my parents' house) had one of those potty seat inserts in them for the toilet, and a small step stool for the kids to use. It was easy, no problem. Plus, I'm really shocked to see anyone, let alone a supposed clean freak, put potty chairs all over the house and on carpets! Yuck! If you do use them, I think they only belong in the bathroom, (and kids should get used to that idea, that these things occur in the bathroom!).
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It's scary to me how from the beginning, Khate seems to have installed no sense of privacy or boundaries in the kids at all. I can tell you now that none of my kids would have ever pulled their pants down in the middle of my basement with camera guys standing there, and sat on a potty seat. When my oldest was potty training, it was so funny because he kept insisting on shutting the door on me and telling me "Mommy, I need my privacy." It cracked me up because, hello, kiddo, you still need me to help you at this point. When he was ready for pre-school, we checked out one and when the Director was giving us the tour, the bathroom was up near the front door to the room and kids kept going in there and using it without shutting the door. I was startled and had to ask about that. She said that's how they do it there, in case the kids need help, and it's kind of like a "family" atmosphere there (it was a Montessori school). I told them if our son went there, he'd insist on closing the door and they said that would be okay. But, I still didn't even like the idea of him having to be in a classroom where kids were going in and out of the bathroom all day with the door wide open so everyone can see what they're doing. I know even at that age, my son would have hated that and I just though it was too freaking weird.
Sorry for the long post, but like I said, I missed out on all the old episodes that I've read so much about and it was very disturbing to watch it now. I remember Rep Murt being shocked to learn this at the hearing last year. It's an awful shame that these scenes were not brought to their attention way back then and stopped. There's just no reason for any of the episodes to include any potty training, baths, changing clothes, nudity, or partial nudity at all. Do any of the other reality shows with kids include scenes like that?
For the life of me I cannot imagine why both parents and their fans cannot band together on this issue.
If there was one thing I thought we could all agree on it would be that this is absolutely awful that this happened to the kids and something must be done about it.
Seriously, Kate and her sheeple can't agree on this???
Interesting comments about Kate's new gig at this site
www.mashupmom.com/2011/11/02/beyond-words-kate-gosselin-turns-coupon-blogger/
And, sorry, but I didn't want to clean out a potty seat all day, gross! Just flush it. All my bathrooms (and those at my parents' house) had one of those potty seat inserts in them for the toilet, and a small step stool for the kids to use. It was easy, no problem. Plus, I'm really shocked to see anyone, let alone a supposed clean freak, put potty chairs all over the house and on carpets!
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Exactly! I thought the very same thing when I saw those chairs placed in various rooms. If they "miss" the potty, wouldn't it leak into the carpet? It's just disgusting. Who does this? I never bought a potty chair, and I've potty trained several kids. We used the toilet in the bathroom, with a step-stool. Some of the toilets had the rubber inserts, some didn't. If the child ran to the potty without the insert and couldn't support himself, I held the child on the potty. Training takes place in the bathroom, not in the living room, basement, or outside (as at Beth's house). Is that the way young parents potty train these days? Why would you make that extra work for yourself? I just found it very strange...
It did not escape my notice as well, Kate, that her first reaction to this was not, "oh my God" or "I'm freaking out" or "We have to get this guy" or "What footage did he have did he use any of my kids' I demand to know???"
No, her reaction was to try to cover her ass and absolve HERSELF of any responsibility--how could this be my fault if I didn't even know him you see!
ME. ME. F-ing ME.
Even when her own children could have been victims of a pedophile, she is thinking about how to make sure that no one blames her for this. If your first reaction is to try to get yourself out of trouble, perhaps you might be guilty of something?
Notice how Jon doesn't try to explain away his responsibility--instead, takes full responsibility. The kids were filmed in all kinds of private situations, I admit it. And I knew the guy, I admit it. Hurray for parents who take responsibility for their mistakes. And therein lies the difference. Jon and Kate both screwed up, but there is only one parent here owning it and trying to do better. And it ain't Kate.
Ugh, I said "installed" and meant "instilled. Since so many sheeple are gazing here today, I felt the need to correct it.
According to sheeple central: Kate will be at the Las Vegas Rock-n Marathon: Dec 4. The stiletto race is the day before. Also, the sheeple over there are saying that we are encouraging people to buy tickets not to go to her speaking gig at PSU. I've not read, that anyone here told anyone to not go to it, or buy tickets and not show up. Anyone? That's probably why sheeple have been coming here, cause one of their own is making up stuff again.
Yikes, another typo. Gazing = grazing. Let me try it again: Since so many sheeple are grazing here today, I felt the need to correct it.
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Notice how Jon doesn't try to explain away his responsibility--instead, takes full responsibility. The kids were filmed in all kinds of private situations, I admit it. And I knew the guy, I admit it. Hurray for parents who take responsibility for their mistakes. And therein lies the difference. Jon and Kate both screwed up, but there is only one parent here owning it and trying to do better. And it ain't Kate.
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Bingo!
I think someone a couple days ago made a JOKE to buy up all the tickets. It was a joke and people laughed.
First of all, tickets are free! You're not going to be able to call up and "buy" anything as they are free. If you try and reserve all the tickets they would know right away it was some kind of weird prank. Most places only allow you to reserve a certain number of tickets anyway, like seven or so. Come on this is Penn State they aren't stupid.
Sheeple, think.
Warmth of the Sun...
I have potty trained all of my boys in the bathroom and outside on a toddler's potty chair. I always made the 'toytee' available wherever the boys were...the girls were different (more modest). When it comes to potty training; unconventional sometimes has the best results. Must say I NEVER TOOK A PICTURE of them learning to do their business and I would have a BIG problem with people that do/did...very TMI
If Kate were truly concerned about pedophiles, she would have agreed with Jon when he said TWO YEARS ago he exposed his children to pedophiles. She missed her chance, the parent concerned here was Jon, not her. She only scrambled to act like she was concerned too when Jon made a statement that was overall quite well received.
I hope she DOES do something about this for the kids' sake, but it sure wasn't her idea to do something.
To the person who said that they exposed their kids like this and therefore they cannot sue? That is absolutely 100% not true for many reasons. I know we all have said of course this was a danger, nonetheless, a reasonable person would not expect that you are signing up for a pedophile to work on your show when you sign up for a reality show.
TLC/Figure 8/Robots bears responsibility for hiring someone. A reasonable person would expect that they have done their job in not hiring pedophiles.
And, this lawsuit is on behalf of the kids. It doesn't matter if Jon and Kate handed the footage directly into Bill Blankinship's hands knowing full well he was up to know good, if their images or video were at all involved in the child pornography under the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act and Masha's Law, they could be entitled to damages. Mash;
There is a famous recently decided case known as Amy Unknown in which a child's uncle distributed countless images of her around the internet. They are known as the "Misty Series." Her own family member was part and parcel to it, that had absolutely nothing to do with whether she could sue.
She got $3.4 million dollars. Jon? Get on this like you have been. It would at least be SOMETHING for the kids to show for themselves for six long years of exploitation and eight lost childhoods.
Here is part of Amy Unknown's statement, given when she was 19. While she was also raped, the images alone were severely traumatic for her. I get shivers when I read it because it proves porn images ARE harmful to a child and it makes me shiver to think that someday this could be someone like Cara or Mady or the other kids saying this:
"Every day of my life I live in constant fear that someone will see my pictures and recognize me and that I will be humiliated allover again. It hurts me to know someone is looking at them -- at me -- when I was just a little girl being abused for the camera. I did not choose to be there, but now I am there forever in pictures that people are using to do sick things. I want it all erased. I want it all stopped. But I am powerless to stop it."
The Goselin kids did not CHOOSE to be there. The Gosselin kids are forever in pictures. The Gosselin kids are POWERLESS.
There is a famous recently decided case known as Amy Unknown in which a child's uncle distributed countless images of her around the internet. They are known as the "Misty Series." Her own family member was part and parcel to it, that had absolutely nothing to do with whether she could sue.
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I think the question was if Kate and Jon signed a release waiver, permitting the filming of these kids with the knowledge that anyone had access to the film if TLC or Figure 8 would still be held liable in the case that one of their employees was found guilty of possessing and distributing child porn.
In addition, would it have to be proven that the pedophile actually had in his possession the photo of the Gosselins and that he distributed them to various outlets? If the Gosselins were NOT found in his collection of porn, would they still be entitled to damages?
On Real Housewives a couple weeks ago one of the housewives let her kids strip and pee on the grass at a party. They fortunately did not film it, thank goodness. But some of the other housewives were saying hey that really wasn't appropriate. The mom was like whatever, and they kept pushing the issue and saying NO NOT OK.
I don't think you have to be paranoid with your kids, but it would be nice if your kids weren't stripping in front of a bunch of people, especially with cameras there.
Proved to me we're not crazy, you have to be protective of your kids' modesty. A naked child who is your own child can be a very pure simple thing that is beautiful as a parent--it's your child, they are perfect, but it's not for public consumption, be it a public party or cameras.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A CHILD ADVOCATE ATTORNEY CONTACTING SOMEONE ON BEHALF OF THE 8 KIDS NOW! Regardless of Jon or Kate- SOMEONE needs to step forward. Gloria Allred sticks her nose in everything else--- how about THIS???
NOT Gloria Allred.
Yikes, another typo. Gazing = grazing. Let me try it again: Since so many sheeple are grazing here today, I felt the need to correct it.
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Either one works. They are gazing here today. Gazing, but not comprehending.
I think the question was if Kate and Jon signed a release waiver, permitting the filming of these kids with the knowledge that anyone had access to the film if TLC or Figure 8 would still be held liable in the case that one of their employees was found guilty of possessing and distributing child porn.
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No, I disagree. This is not the question at all. A waiver is totally meaningless, you cannot waive away your right to hold someone accountable for CHILD PORN. It's just too serious, too big. Think of it this way, could you sit down with someone about to murder you and sign away your family's right to sue your murderer? Of course not, the courts won't let you do that. Same thing.
I explained this a couple days ago as to bungie jumping. You can sign away your right to sue if an unforeseen accident happens, like you used a brand new rope from a reliable company and triple checked it and it broke for no reason. But you can't sign your rights away if the rope broke because no one had checked it in a year and it was tied carelessly and they forgot to hook you up to it. Thats the difference.
There are certain things you cannot contract away however much they might want you to, and this is decidedly one of them.
In addition, would it have to be proven that the pedophile actually had in his possession the photo of the Gosselins and that he distributed them to various outlets? If the Gosselins were NOT found in his collection of porn, would they still be entitled to damages?
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This I agree with, they can't sue until they find out if he was using their images. But with the amount of time he spent on the show and the footage he had access to? I would be shocked if their images weren't involved somehow, as much as it makes me want to puke. He just spent so much time on it.
Kate, stop worrying about the koalas and put your concerns on your OWN CHILDREN.
Just Me said...
Shoka has some words for us today. No pictures.
Dear Humans…
Dear Humans -
Hmmm I don’t think I know you and you’re making a loud mess everyday when you show up on my property! You bring loud equipment, big trucks, and leave lots of doggone leaves and branches lying around!
It’s sure making my hunt for my newest legless chicken ruff! I’m not exactly sure what happened here over the weekend, but I do know that “mommy” was crying while the snow fell and told me to stay away from the trees because branches were falling! She also fed me dinner in the dark?!!
My furless little friends and I did have fun on sleds and making “snow dogs!” They asked me to lay on my back and flap my four legs but it was too tuff – but I tried because I love them!
Now these guys are here cleaning up leaves and branches and I am pacing around madly! Mommy asked me if I was going to help the men and she saw in my eyes that I was saying “I’ll help as much as I help you carry in the groceries!”, which we know how well i do that!
So, my pacing continues – as I search wildly for my chicken! These guys need to learn how to properly treat a dog while working on his property! I need to find my chicken so I can teach them how to play with me!
Regardless, they stop to pat and pet me so I’m happy for that! They are nice guys!
Can’t wait til it’s quiet here so I can take my nap and be rested up before my furrless brothers and sisters come bounding out of the big blue bus with lotsa hugs and kisses for me!
Ahhh, the life of a dog in a big family!
Can’t beat it!
….anyone seen my chicken??
Woof!
Shoka
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Oh, crap....
She's a putrid writer as well.
Kate, you're embarrassing Shoka. Stop putting words in his mouth. If he could talk, he'd be cursing up a storm by now- the chickens too.
TLC or Figure 8 would still be held liable in the case that one of their employees was found guilty of possessing and distributing child porn.
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To further clarify, I think the question really is, did TLC know or should have known. Did they properly background check those that are around the kids' footage. Were they protective of raw footage that wasn't being used or could anyone do whatever with it. Did Bill Blankinship at any time display behavior that suggested he was interested in children in a deviant way, and was TLC aware of this? ANd if so, what actions did they take? (NONE obviously)
Those are the questions that have bearing on a lawsuit--These questions remain unanswered.
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