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I saw in the paper the other day that the Phila. marathon is this weekend. I don't know anything about running, but, as many have said, wouldn't it be better for a cash-strapped mom of EIGHT!!!!!!!! kids to try a local one, rather than flying to freakin' Las Vegas???
She disgusts me. She wants to be revered as the world's greatest mother, yet avoids her children as much as she possibly can. HOW do the sheeple not see this? (rhetorical question)
fidosmommy and everyone else who has shared, I'm so sorry for your losses :-(
If Kate is paying him X-amount of money to do his job and "guard" her...does he use his pay check to pay his own way to travel with her? Or is this part of his pay check? How does this guy afford to fly first class with Kate, when Kate is so cheap on her own kids and crying broke and how scared she is?
Why is she the one with the bodyguard? I've said it before. Other celebs in Hollywood go out, no makeup, baggy jeans, frumpy hair, flip flops, whatever to go about their daily business like any other person named Joe or Sue.
Yet here Kate is, constantly accompanied by Steve. To book signings, on family vacations, jetting across the world to Aus. and such places. No doubt he will be in LV with her.
Just what exactly does Kate need all this protection from? Like anybody in nice PA would really, truly bother her.
She is the one who signed up for this lifestyle. Consequence of this should be her having to deal with it. Be a big girl, so to speak.
She says she is broke, but then turns around to spend money as if it's liquid gold. You can't have it both ways. Well...maybe you can if you're THE Kate Gosselin.
I'm still not sure why Kate even has the last name Gosselin anymore. Once you get divorced..don't you go back to your maiden name? Her kids are the one's who are famous and she knows it.
My best guess right now is that Kate saved and invested more money than we ever gave her credit for, there's just no way TLC would keep paying for all of this or even some of this. There are only so many freebies that can go around before they dry up. Her whole expensive life can't possibly all be free.
So, she's lying about being poor. She probably doesn't see it as a lie. You see if nothing at all ever comes up again I COULD be poor if I don't play my cards right. Therefore in Kate's mind, not a lie.
Admin, I love the addition of the little hearts around them. Too funny! I don't see how anyone can possibly think that they aren't involved. It will all come out eventually.
Yeah...this it too convenient. Kate will do anything to keep herself in the spotlight...including making it look like she and Steve are an item. Kate knows the pap is there... I'm not buying it.
Kate is so lazy. She should have known enough by now as a "producer" (yeah right) and being in the business for five years now to be able to start her own production company and make her own shows. MAKE something, then pitch it to a network just like everybody else does. Don't just sitting around waiting for the offer to come because it hasn't and won't.
Almost every big actor has their own production company and when they don't like the projects out there or no one is giving them projects, they just make their own and sell them to studios or get studios on board even earlier.
When networks drop you, boy do they ever DROP YOU. They don't even look back. Kate is lucky she was told before the public found out, many aren't. I don't believe for a second TLC is doing anything for her. She is not a charity case and they are not the welfare system, she has been on her own since the axe fell.
I think Kate is waiting until she has as little relevance as possible, then will pull out the whole I'm marrying Steve! card to squeak out a little more fame just a little longer.
That does it! They're a couple. Jon was right. Who knows what Steve sees in her.
So that's why she asked his opinion on how big to inflate the girls. It's why she always looks so happy around him and in photos he takes. It explains the RV comment, "It's all about HIM, isn't it?" It's the reason they always HAD to have adjoining hotel rooms. And it's why Kate LOVES Aus and NZ--her baby's home turf. She wanted to be Asian. Now she wants to be from Down Under.
I'll bet she made a play for that first trip to Aus/NZ--it was her idea, not TLC's. She was still a moneymaker, so they agreed.
Someone noted the other day that Gina had been there for one Thanksgiving and then Steve came alone for the next. (Am I remembering right?) So Gina must have gotten the news somewhere between those Thanksgivings. I bet Steve lives with Kate.
Kate has done herself in this time. If they're NOT a couple, then she's not "poor" as she claims to be since she's paying for first class(?) airfare to the other side of the world and for his separate hotel room. (Yeah, right!) If they ARE a couple, then Steve was the reason she told Jon the marriage was over, he's the reason for the major makeover, and they're both home wreckers. Great for whatever's left of her image.
Whoever said that they were gradually working Steve into the show to test the waters for them coming out as couple was probably right.
Gina is a big girl and if she doesn't like what her husband is doing she can ask him to stop or divorce him.
But as for his teen boys? That's what gets me. I find this whole public thing extremely disrespectful to them. If you're going to spend this much time with a woman clearly obsessed with you, at least do their mother the courtesy of filing for divorce.
The ONLY thing I know about Gina Neild is that she is blonde. I don't know if she's tall, short, large, small.....
With that said, I can almost hear Steve and Kate having a chat. Steve is saying he was attracted to Gina because she's blonde - his favorite color - and keeps her hair long. She's athletic and is strong and was quite slim when they met. But she's had 2 children and has a bit of a tummy she can't get rid of, and he kind of wishes she could because she'd be happier with herself. And on he goes, speaking of the Gina he fell in love with, the things about her he still really likes. Just a nice little chat.
Kate is taking notes. Blonde, longer tresses, no baby tummy, athletic...... and she begins to reinvent herself to be his new perfect woman.
All conjecture, of course. Like I said, Gina may be nothing like I've described.
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I think you hit the nail on the head, Admin. I've thought for awhile that she will do this.
Also, Kate's disrespect for Jon was never more apparent then when he spoke about how Steve made him uncomfortable and there was an appearance of something. If a woman claiming she was trying to save her marriage, as she did claim, really was serious, she would get rid of anything standing in the way.
Essentially, she put Steve before Jon's wishes, their marriage, and any hope of reconciling. Steve was more important than simply getting rid of someone that made Jon uncomfortable. If Steve meant nothing, she should have just cut him off and replaced him, easy. And if Steve had any honor, he would say look Kate I care for you but I don't want to be responsible for breaking up a marriage, I can recommend another great bodyguard but I'm resigning. None of that of course ever happened.
I also think that after more than two years, and Kate still doesn't have a single date? There must be someone out there who will at least go on a date or two. I think she's not really looking because she's got Steve.
The sheeple try to say you don't need a man and she is a smart strong woman without a man. But Kate never went around saying I don't want a man a man doesn't define me! Kate has talked about getting dates and men to an embarrassing degree, even flagging down a Steve look-a-like at DC cupcakes, and making an entire episode about finding men in a club. She never once suggested she's prepared to go it alone, which I have no problem with! It's just not the case here per Kate's own statements and actions!
i have noticed though, she hasn't mentioned dating or a man in a LONG time. Another hmm. You tend not to talk about dating and men when you're, you know, seeing someone.
Administrator said... Also, Kate's disrespect for Jon was never more apparent then when he spoke about how Steve made him uncomfortable and there was an appearance of something..... ******* Everything you said, Admin. I've been saying it for a couple years now. If my husband looked the cuckold, and was diminished in any way, even though I did nothing wrong but the appearance of something wrong existed, I'd have replace Steve quicker than you could say "Whateevah".
Everything you said, Admin. I've been saying it for a couple years now. If my husband looked the cuckold, and was diminished in any way, even though I did nothing wrong but the appearance of something wrong existed, I'd have replace Steve quicker than you could say "Whateevah".
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Bingo. Relationships 101 here. If I'm trying to save a relationship as Kate claimed, and the person I love is uncomfortable about someone because it LOOKS LIKE AN AFFAIR (and it's not paranoia, we all said it), that person is gone. Whatever it takes to save it.
It's not like Jon has ever complained about anyone else in her life before. It's not like he's a controlling jerk (that's Kate actually) who is telling her who she can and cannot talk to and who can and cannot be in her life. He said he made me uncomfortable. It's the first time we've ever heard him complain once about the company Kate keeps.
Out of respect for him and the children's father? Steve shoulda been gone.
This is from the other thread, but why on earth would she send Hannah to school with her pants like that. Those are obviously Cara or Mady's pants. Guess the laundry girl was out and she couldn't be bothered herself. So much for all that laundry talk.
Generally what we see out here when celebs like Kate have a "staff"? Women pick other women for their staff (or, gay men) and men pick other men.
Sorry, but any of these fools know you are probably as a celeb going to be spending way more time with your assistant than with your wife or husband. Why not just pick someone your gender and save yourself the agony? This is one way to keep a marriage.
Steve is an assistant. Fire him, hire a woman. Problem solved.
I don't know the time difference between the US and Australia, but the RO articles says they were seen having dinner in Chicago on the 14th. At first I assumed they made an error (wouldn't be the first time). But then reading the comments, someone in the Chicago area saw them yesterday.
Could she be back in the states, working at her new job?
I posted in the other thread not knowing about this new thread.
If Kate and Steve are really lovers and he lives in her home & bedroom, the kids would be very aware of this. Remember the most recent question and answer session Kate had on her show over the summer. The kids were all asked about whether they wanted Kate to remarry. Not one of the eight mentioned the possiblity of Kate marrying Steve.
Some may think that Kate told the kids never to mention "their relationship" but I think the kids are all too young to follow or understand that rule. After 5 years of Steve being around Kate, the kids would have messed up with "Mommy is in love with Steve" type of comment. Or "I hope Mommy and Steve marry". But that has never happened. (I don't believe that article years ago that said Mady caught them kissing). Steve has 2 kids of his own. Certainly they would be talking to their family and friends about this. And then Gina would have had to be secret about this very personal matter of her husband living and loving someone as famous as Kate. Gina would have discussed this with her parents, friends, co-workers, neighbors, etc.
Admin., what made you change your mind about them being a couple?
Re; Hannah's pants. Zowee. She's dressed like a poor kid with a negligent mother. And she basically is. Yeah they have the big house and go to the private school, but that's all for Kate's ego, not the kids' well-being. But those kids are like skimped upon in so many ways...love and affection for sure. Settling for clothing that is donated or paid for by TLC. The saddest meals ever. Kate told Jodi that she felt that others should pay to support her kids because she has 8 when Jodi told her to back off on the gritting. Kate will pinch pennies with those kids and spend willy-nilly on making herself look more and more like the Grinch each day. No way would Kate walk out of the house looking like such a ragamuffin, yet the kids can look like characters in Oliver so long as the cameras aren't rolling. Shameful
Well, this Extra interview with Kate is dated today:; http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2011/11/kate_gosselin_lands_new_gig_but_still_wants_a_talk_show.php
Maggie, I'm not sure I completely have committed to them being a couple, lol.
I'm considering it a lot more seriously lately.
Two reasons. One, TLC is gone, but Steve is still around. Like cheap-o Kate would actually pay for her own bodyguard? Second, I've got a couple trusted insiders who say Steve is spending some weekends with Kate and others with his kids.
When we know Kate is with Steve, there is almost always Twitter silence. He feeds her. She has gone twitter silent for unexplained reasons on many a weekend. And on others, like perhaps when he's not there? She's twittering every 30 seconds. Huge difference.
Kate on extra today I think talking about how she wants a man again. She gpt the weave fixed and looks pretty decent.
Second note if Kate and, Steve gave up their marriage for each other then they deserve one another. Maybe Gina is taking the high road for hwe their two kids.
Regarding the picture up thread, yeah, Kate looks to be infatuated with Steve. She never looked at Jon that way. And it's never been disputed that she is into him. I still have a hard time believing ANYONE could be attracted to Kreider, but it does make me wonder why Steve doesn't try to distance himself from her if he's not involved. The affair, whether real or manufactured, must be terribly hurtful to his boys and Gina. Can you imagine how humiliating it must be for those boys to have their friends think their dad is involved with that fool Kreider? Ugh.
She is definitely having an affair with Steve and has been testing the waters by telling everyone how her kids "want her to get remarried". When it comes out about them, she can say she's doing it for her kids cause they love and know Steve. If there wasn't something going on he wouldn' t be Steve, he'd be Mr Gray Haired Bodyguard Man, and she would not have worried if he had his pizza or not if he was just her employee. Have we ever seen her even be considerate to her employees or volunteers? The bodyguard bit is BS too. It has gone on way too long without hearing about any threats against her, real or not. You'd think with all the publicity she has gotten we would have hear about a stalker or threat like some real celebrities have had to deal with. Besides her big smile at him in the picture above, his body language looks like they're a couple.
Maggie, what makes you think that we've seen even a tenth of what TLC has recorded? I think the kids have been carefully schooled not to say anything. And I also think there may have been plenty of slip-ups on camera that were not put in the show. It is no accident that the remark by Jamie (Ashley?) on the RV trip, "It's all about him," made it into the final cut. This is when you knew TLC had lowered the boom.
JMC, unless she has a time machine, she couldn't possibly be back in the States even now, let alone on 11/14. It's nearly 11 p.m. EST (11/15) and so it is 2 p.m. (11/16) in Brisbane AUS. She probably left there today, and it will take at least 13 hours to get to the West Coast, where she will likely be changing planes. (And maybe doing an interview with Extra? I dunno, read it somewhere.)
Some may think that Kate told the kids never to mention "their relationship" but I think the kids are all too young to follow or understand that rule. After 5 years of Steve being around Kate, the kids would have messed up with "Mommy is in love with Steve" type of comment. Or "I hope Mommy and Steve marry". But that has never happened. ___________________________________
How do you know it's never happened? Maybe it just was never caught on film.
And, again, Kate had a knack for putting the fear of God in those kids and probably threatened bodily harm ( aka ass whoopin' ), no Christmas presents, no trick-or-treating ( hmmmmm), will not go to heaven, will have to eat everyone else's old sandwiches for the rest of the year, will have to clean the chicken poop, and will be yanked out of their school and out in yucky public school, and will never see one red cent of their hard earned exploitation money ...if they spill the beans about mommy and Steve.
It is no accident that the remark by Jamie (Ashley?) on the RV trip, "It's all about him," made it into the final cut. This is when you knew TLC had lowered the boom.
It only made the cut for the preview on the TLC website and Radar Online, but on the actual episode on tv, it was edited out. I bet Kate pee'd herself when she saw they included that and begged them to edit it before airing on tv.
During the lover's spat over his refusal to do something about the man who took a picture of her, and her yelling at him and slamming the RV door and then insisting he come in so they could discuss it privately, that's when I knew FOR SURE that they are a couple. No doubt in my mind. If this man is still Gina Nield's husband, then Gina Neild is the biggest fool on the planet because her husband is and has been Kate's lover for several years now.
I watched the Extra link on-line and I watched the actual interview on Extra today. Extra cut much of what she said for tv. I would guess they didn't find her interesting because her interview on tv was very brief but her on-line interview is over 4 minutes.
And all of her forehead lines and her deep eleven squint lines between her eyes are gone. She is a liar because either Extra did an excellent job and packed her lines with make-up or she had botox. She had botox...no doubt. And I hate to admit it but I even looked at her forehead with a magnifying mirror and her forehead is void of those lines that we saw for years and years.
And it scares me when she says,"I definitely have always said I think a talk show is possibly in my future... and so, we will wait and see." Oh, please, please let it not be true. Why would she say that in public if there is zero possiblity of no talk show. She seems too confident and is always dropping hints like she has something going on in the future.
Maggie, I'm not sure I completely have committed to them being a couple, lol.
I'm considering it a lot more seriously lately.
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I always doubted them as a couple, because I couldn't understand how any guy could possibly be attracted to Kate. I am starting to see that they are quite possibly a couple and have been for some time, but the thing I don't get is, why is Steve still with her?! Surely he's not still in love with her, is he? After the whole RV trip fiasco, I figured he was done with her. Didn't one of the camera men ask Steve if he'd go camping with the family again, and Steve said, "ask me again in six months." After everything Kate has done- throwing a tantrum while in Alaska with Sarah Palin, throwing a tantrum over pizza, shaking Mady so hard she made her cry, bossing Steve around like she did Jon, etc., how in the world can Steve still be attracted to that woman?
Do you really think kids that young, 11 and under at the time could have kept Kate-Steve affair quiet? I don't mean to give kids a bad view here, but as kids, didn't you all find it really hard to keep a secret at that age? I don't care if Kate threatened them with her stupid, "upon penalty of severeness," rule kids are kids.
But if they have been in a relationship, how do they keep it hidden exactly? No photographs of them kissing, maybe the one's Steve asked to be deleted, however. No other eye witness accounts.
Jon got caught by paps with a few other women, so just how does Ms. Important keep this to herself and not get a pap photo taken at some point? Evidence speaks for itself, and I don't see any.
I guess with Thanksgiving coming, we will see who shows up at Kate's house. She's not going to, you know, dress her kids up in Native American costumes again is she? That was just so...bizarre to say the least. Nothing wrong with it I guess, but...maybe it's just me.
Here's the online interview with Extra. They only showed about one minute of it on their show. It's the most boring interview ever! Khate never makes real eye contact and comes across so disingenuous! What a terrible spokesperson! Geesh!
Steve and Kate are a couple; there is no doubt in my mind.
Does anyone remember the episode where the Neild family visited the Gosselins at the McMansion? The whole gang was outside in the back of the property. I looked at Gina on camera and thought, "OMG! Here is an older version of Kate!" Long, bleached blonde hair, busty, similar features, a bit overweight, but still attractive. This is the type of woman Steve likes, because obviously he married a Kate semi look-alike.
This coincided with Kate's weight loss and newly skankified appearance. So there you have it. They are a couple and their frequent, private jaunts out of town gave them plenty of time to be together. But what in God's name does he see in a toxic, abusive narcissist? Guess some guys are into this.
Do you really think kids that young, 11 and under at the time could have kept Kate-Steve affair quiet?
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The public's access to the children's VOICES has been extremely limited. Think about it. We've only ever heard them speak on brief couch interviews and asked specific questions. Any blabbing about Steve could have been edited out.
I also think for many of the kids, the little kids for sure, they don't know anything different. Steve has been around for years. It's likely at least the little kids don't think there is anything strange about this. The little kids probably barely remember the divorce and barely remember a time when Steve wasn't with Mommy.
I also think Steve helps to defuse Kate a little. The kids might actually like Steve around because he keeps Kate in check. Remember Kate wanted to grill up chicken. Steve was the leader in saying no way, we're hungry we're just going to get pizza. They might appreciate the way he stands up for them and stands up for doing reasonable, NON-crazy things.
These kids don't seem that vicious to me. They seem quite open to people. They seemed to have accepted Ellen quite easily. They may do the same with Steve. It will be later, the teenage years and so on, when they will start to grasp how dysfunctional their lives have been.
Oh I believe TLC could have easily edited out any kid slips in reference to Steve.
I said for a long time I thought she wanted a relationship, but he was just along for the money ride from TLC.
But the TLC gravy train derailed in AUGUST. She clearly has no need for a bodyguard and he never really acted in that capacity, anyway.
So yeah. I now find it quite odd. Jon knew all along, of course he did. I'm sure Steve was still with Gina when this all started years ago, but I'm also pretty sure they're divorced by now. Kate the Homewrecker.
As for what he sees in her, he might be just as stupid as her, but in different ways. Like attracts like. However, I do predict it won't last. Malignant narcissists certainly have a difficult time with long-term relationships, and if he'd leave his wife to get with her, who's to say he wouldn't leave her to get with his next piece?
Everyone gets their own ads which used to just be based on what is discussed here but now factors in your preferences. For instance I've been looking the past few days at Nike cross-training shoes for general workouts, and sure enough, a Nike ad appeared today for the shoes I'm looking at. Google's system is really quite genius. This happens every day around the web.
I understand everyone is wearing khaki, but a bodyguard usually wears plain clothes and stands by the door. He doesn't sit with the girlfriend and enjoy the show and wears what she's wearing. That's what a boyfriend is.
Admin. said: I've got a couple trusted insiders who say Steve is spending some weekends with Kate and others with his kids ________________________ Thanks for replying. I am curious about "and others" in the above statement. Is it possible for you to comment further on this? Thanks so much.
I understand everyone is wearing khaki, but a bodyguard usually wears plain clothes and stands by the door.
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What does a road manager wear? Didn't she announce, in an interview, that he is now her road manager? Is there a uniform of the day for a road manager? :)
I knew someone who had been keeping an affair quiet for about ten years. And he wasn't the most private person in the world.
His wife knew and their close circle knew, but that was it. I haven't seen him in ages, but I talked to someone last year who mentioned she ran into him and "the other woman." She does not know of the affair, I don't think. But from that I can assume that apparently, he is still with her.
There are people who keep affairs discreet and people who don't.
The public's access to the children's VOICES has been extremely limited. Think about it. We've only ever heard them speak on brief couch interviews and asked specific questions. Any blabbing about Steve could have been edited out.
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Kids talk at school. Things slip out. Don't you think that in two years SOMETHING would have been said to classmates, who in turn tell their parents, who in turn would tell someone else? Something like this would be extremely difficult to have been kept a secret for so long.
Moose, I think the school is very respectful of their privacy. They have been very discreet about almost everything. Leaking an affair about Kate I think most people think is harmful to the kids and in very bad taste.
And also, I don't think most parents give a crap who Kate chooses to be around. I would hope they worry more about their kids' schooling.
Plus, I DO have a few "insiders" telling me this is going on, for all I know they ARE parents or know parents. But how could they really prove it? They can't, only what they've been told.
Also, I have known many seven year olds in my day, and eleven year olds. I've never seen a kid that age interested in the relationships of their parents. It's sort of something that is going on but not at the front of their minds, not something they would want to talk about like adults would. Parents just sort of exist to kids of that age, a child still sees their parents as on the earth for them to love and help them. A kid doesn't quite process or at least dwell on at that age this is my mom and she is having a relationship with this guy. It's more of a passing thought if that, just like I think Ellen is. Ellen, a nice girl around dad a lot. I don't think a kid would typically process that as a "relationship."
What does a road manager wear? Didn't she announce, in an interview, that he is now her road manager? Is there a uniform of the day for a road manager? :)
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I don't know, but I'm wiling to bet it's not a cute little khaki zoo keeper outfit that matches your girlfriend's!
I remember my friend once, I think sophomore year, I was over at her house a lot and it occurred to me I hadn't seen her dad in awhile. I asked where her dad was.
Oh, Dad moved, she told me. They got divorced.
I was like WHAT, WHEN.
A few years ago, she told me!
She wasn't keeping it a secret from anyone, it's just at that age we don't really TALK about our parents. No one asked. It wasn't at the front of anyone's minds to be talking about their parents in that way. We were more interested in the dance or in going to girl scouts or the big science project due.
I don't care if they are together.. Kate, will one day have to answer to her kids... Utah trip? Huh.. Wow.. Uncle daddy Steve was there then!!
Kate made it known Jon was "hers" when she first met him..
I'm sure she thought Steve was more "manly" and she just had to have him.
If anything, Kate is predictable. She wants what she wants and gets it. Then she will suck the life out of it, when it's no longer useful or suits her. I think she saw Steve as someone who had power and money in the begining.. Kind of like Beths husband.. Kate wanted what her friend had. Money, looks, big house and so on... But most of all, a rich "smart" man.
Admin said: Also, I have known many seven year olds in my day, and eleven year olds. I've never seen a kid that age interested in the relationships of their parents. It's sort of something that is going on but not at the front of their minds, not something they would want to talk about like adults would. _________________ I totally understand and agree with what you are saying. BUT Kate (for some odd reason) has mentioned many times that the kids keep asking her when she is going to date or get married. Remember how Kate was going on and on about this. I have to believe that it is Kate that is bringing this subject up repeatedly to her children. But why? It is so wrong and confusing especially if she is secretly in love with a man that the kids know very well.
You know the way she smiles at him reminds me of another couple, and I get why they are into each other. Our former mayor Rudy Guiliani and his current wife, Judy whatsherface was often photographed like that. He's a major narcissist and likes being "looked up to" and his actions supported and not questioned. He was married to a local reporter, a lovely woman named Donna Hanover before he started affair with this crazy wig. Her personality is "stick to your man like glue" and put him high up on a pedestal. Really gross and mushy PDA.
Other reason is that if she came out now about her relationship, she will blow up worse than the Kardashians wedding fiasco. And she will have to give up the name Gosselin. Kate Nield doesn't have a nice sound to it, does it.
I suspect these kids are pretty well trained (threatened if you will) not to talk about their home life with strangers (anyone outside "the family" whatever she considers that at the time).
Think how many kids are horribly abused and no one knows until a kid either finally spills the beans or a teacher or someone eventually sees enough signs to get an investigation going and people really start digging into what is going on at home.
These kids are already kept so off balance by Kate and kept so rigidly controlled/isolated and they have probably been told for years that people have no business knowing what goes on in their home life (despite the obvious hypocrisy of their home life being filmed for the whole world) that they may not even think to really say anything to others.
If threatening them with "penalty of serverness" is enough to keep them out of her bedroom, it's probably enough to keep them from talking about their home life at school, too.
The vast majority of abuse is not reported by the child themselves but by someone who saw something or suspects something is up--teachers, relatives, etc.
What seems abnormal to us is often normal to kids and not anything that strikes them as something bad or weird that should be "disclosed."
I think the Extra interview, was done at the hotel in Chicago, before Kate left for Aussie, but only put on now. One of the other news ones, reported about Kate at coupon cabin, 2-3 days after, we already knew about it. Just like knowing about her audi, she bought it back in april and what we heard about it 4 months later. Or the stuff with the kids. It seems the media is sitting on Kate news, and the non-fans find out first. Like someone said here, Kate would not be back in the US unless she had a time machine(I'm sure Dr who, would not get near her with a 20ft pole). If that interview was on the 14th, how can she be in 2 places(wasn't the luncheon on the 14th?), unless they interviewed her in Aussie. I think maybe purseboy is playing mind games with us, thinking were stupid. I see Kate is in twitter silence. Must be having a good time down under.
If threatening them with "penalty of serverness" is enough to keep them out of her bedroom, it's probably enough to keep them from talking about their home life at school, too.
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One child, maybe. Eight kids, not so much. No matter how much they would be threatened to keep quiet, I would think that things are said in the spur of a moment, forgetting that they are under penalty of severness. It's been said that Kate has no talent. If there's been an ongoing affair, she really has a talent for remaining quiet on this one, and keeping everyone guessing.
But how would kids this age even understand what an "affair" is? They don't understand this like we do, they are little kids.
Dad has Ellen and Mom has Steve and no one is acting like anything is wrong. If everyone acts like this is normal, a little kid probably isn't going to assume otherwise.
Steve's son should be old enough to know what goig on throgh doesn't he have teen's?. Perhaps that's why he's not with them they my not want to see him. It's just a guess though
Great Expectations, I don't know as much about the twins, but I think you can groom kids that an affair is normal.
Steve you have to remember has been around for years. Close to three years? Pushing four even? This has been the twins' normal for a very long time. Had he popped up out of nowhere last month and started having an affair with Kate they would probably be a lot more thrown off He has been a fixture for them though.
11 yr. olds would definitely understand. Don't think M & C aren't whispering up in their bedroom. I feel awful for those two. They've met, had meals with and played with the Neilds' kids and Steve's wife, Gina.
Great I read your comment again, of course I think the twins know something is going on IF something is going on. I'm just questioning whether this is something that they would leak at school like someone suggested.
It was proposed something isn't going on because it has never been leaked. Number one, it may have been leaked it's just people are being discreet, and number two, I suggested that these kids might not view this as something to "leak". Others suggested Kate's penalty of severeness is a nice deterrent!
Thanks for the Extra link, although I lasted less than a minute. I just can't stand her. BUT, that was enough to solve another little mystery! This Extra interview was indeed shot in a hotel - The Abraham Lincoln Hotel in Reading, PA that I posted about over a week ago.
Remember how I figured out from tweets what Khate's big day of "work" was on that Friday before she left for Chicago and Australia? I think it was Friday, 11/4. I had noticed that tweet from a new person with a photo attached? It was a pic of a restaurant sign and by looking at her Twitter I tracked it down. The woman is from Chicago and had tweeted about her brand new job at Coupon Cabin, which she had just started that Tuesday, 11/1. Then, that Friday morning, she tweeted a photo of a plane at Chicago Executive airport and said she was flying to PA for a quick business trip.
So, late in the afternoon, when she tweeted that photo of a restaurant sign to Khate, I just Googled the name of the restaurant and PA and found out that it was the Abraham Lincoln Hotel in Reading, PA. So that was Khate's big day of "work", a lunch meeting with the brand new Coupon Cabin employee.
But, just now as soon as I saw the posts with the Extra clip and someone mentioned that it looks like the interview was done in a hotel, I just knew it had to be that one. So, yes, the Extra interview was done on that same Friday at the hotel in Reading - compare the chairs in the Extra interview to the chairs in the lobby (note the curved wooden arms) in Photo 3. You can also see the piano behind them in the interview and in the hotel's lobby photo:
So, Khate's new gig didn't get her car service and a hotel in NYC to do a "press tour". Instead she had to go to a hotel in Reading, PA to meet the Extra correspondent (not even a main host). Plus, it's funny how she had to have a brand new employee of Coupon Cabin fly out from Chicago to babysit her and hold her hand for the interview. LOL.
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My days of feeling sorry for Gina ended long ago. She has ignored the obvious for years, for reasons we can only guess out. Out of respect to herself and her kids, she should have tossed his cheating ass long ago.
Remember when she was gone all the time and nannies were basically taking care of the kids full time. The kids came walking down the stairs to go their birthday party at the park impeccably dressed their hair tightly (to me) braided like they were being debuted to their mother for her approval. She clearly approved as there was a moment of silence while she stood watching the presentation. Their little sweaters with one button closed on top, they looked like they were going to meet the president (instead of a birthday party at the park with balloon jumpers). It was just kind of a surreal moment that I will always remember.
That is the way she had envisioned it to be always that her kids be presented to her on command fully coifed and ready to perform with a virtual Army behind the effort while she flitted about instructing everyone.
That was also when she debuted her new flare for designer clothing. It was freezing at the park and she yelled for someone (one of the many helpers) to bring her black jacket. It was a flimsy little high fashion silk finish designer coat and she was still freezing. She looked ridiculous but flying high. That was also the time of another surreal moment when she was standing there in that stupid jacket instructing all the moms with a candle in her hand and she actually stuck it up to her mouth like a microphone. She tried to laugh it off like it was a joke - but no that was KT in her element. That was the turning point to me (or one of them) the beginning of the demise of the show, when you got a true sense of how it was going to be on her watch.
I don't think she for one moment envisioned herself being the primary caretaker for the kids. She had never, ever done it before but it is clear that she is indeed doing it now and a lousy job of it as well.
I think Terri Irwin & Kate should start their own Mom's Exploits the kids Club:
The Tacky Khaki Hell on Heels Club: Members MUST exploit their children. They MUST wear khaki OR high heels & when wearing heels, it has to look like you have something stuck up your ass while walking in them.
Founding members are Kate & Terri Irwin & they make the rules, est. 2010.
Rule 1) It doesn't matter how much your kids complain, THEY will be the sole breadwinners, & you, as their MOM, will skim off the top.
Rule 2) Lies are a must. Deception is a must. Contradictions are a must. Believe your own crap.
Rule 3) Moms-your sh*t don't stink. We OWN these kids & we own their asses until their 18. We can make them do anything. 11 projects in the works? OK! Disney Princess? OK! Veterinarian? Whatever lie works that day!
Rule 4) It helps to be blond, divorced, separated, widowed, etc, that way, no man can get in the way of telling us how to raise the children, or in the Club, as we call them...The Merch.
Sorry for the OT rant but I am still burning about Hannah having to wear Mady's pants to school. Thanks to the poster who noticed that as I had not, but I am sure all the other kids at school did. What a fluke. She and Steve deserve one another. He acted like a spoiled brat over the stupid one slice of pizza. I think it is same to assume there was no Kraft services on that trip, boy did they do a number on her (thank you TLC).
I have long thought there was something personal going on between Steve and Kate, but I do find it suspicious that no one has leaked a word about it. I would think that all the staff who have come and gone from Kate's life, or Ashley, or the pool man, or someone from the Neild's circle of friends/family, or...ALL those paps who follow them ALL the time, wouldn't have said something. But wouldn't it be amusing if after all the things that have been said about Jon and his dalliances early in their separation, it was actually Kate who had set about to steal another woman's husband? Sure wouldn't fit very well with her "poor me", "you don't know what I've been through" persona.
Wow, NLAN, nice research! I think you are 100% correct. I can't bring myself to watch the clip, but did she talk much about CC? Or was it the usual mememe? If it was arranged by CC and she barely mentioned the new job, well, then, they've just gotten their first taste of Katie Kreider and her inability to sell anything but herself.
While it is curious that the interview took a while to air, it wouldn't be the first time. After all, this is not really "news," it's a story with some shelf life.
As for speculation about a talk show, I guess anything is possible. But WHO would work with her? And WHO would watch? She has proven over and over again in all live formats that she is not an "off-the-cuff" speaker. She DOES need a script. When she is taped, she is somewhat better, but there's no telling how much tape had to roll before they got enough to make her look presentable.
I seriously cannot imagine this coming to pass, but hey, I've been wrong before.
But wouldn't it be amusing if after all the things that have been said about Jon and his dalliances early in their separation, it was actually Kate who had set about to steal another woman's husband? ************ The similarities to Jon's earlier behavior's and Kate's current life are striking. Jon was the Ed Hardy-wearing douchebag, while Kate now is known for dressing like a street walker. No public outcry. Jon got an apartment in NYC and traveled overseas for self-promotion, while Kate has now spent more time in NYC, away from PA and the kids, for shits and giggles and softball media interviews. Oh, remember when Jon also was doing the interviews in NYC? Bad Jon! Not bad Kate because mom's need to look good and have fun too! Jon got a sporty little $$ car and he was lambasted. Kate bought her Audi and good for her! Not to mention that we've never heard of Jon speeding or otherwise incurring traffic violations. Jon traveled to France with Hailey to ostensibly garner some type of gig with the Ed Hardy guy, and he was vilified. Kate is on the other side of the world with her "road manager" so she can get back to AU and be the center of attention and she gets no flack for leaving her kids, while in school, for what's going to be weeks now. 2 weeks, I'm guessing. Only to be followed up with another get away to LV, that there's no real reason for other than it's an excuse to travel and live the high life. The double standard is sickening.
Didn't one of the camera men ask Steve if he'd go camping with the family again, and Steve said, "ask me again in six months."
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Steve saying he wouldn't go "camping with the family" could translate to "I'd go with Kate alone, yes, but not with this bunch of whining children and these catty helpers. And Kate and I stay in 5-star hotels because she HATES RVs and camping."
That press interview in the Reading, PA hotel was awful. I'm assuming it was arranged by Coupon Cabin, and here's Kate opining about her desire to have a talk show. I'd be so fricking pissed if I were her CC gal. And Kate's going on and on about all of "her" recipes and anyone else's recipes that she cooks? Well, of course, she's "perfected" them. What an ego. I've seen nothing original or refined in all the years she's displayed her cooking skills. Her food looks serviceable.
Yes, Kate has her own "signature" dishes for Thanksgiving. Isn't she awesome? Oh, what's that? You actually want to know what signature dishes she perfected for this fabulous food holiday? Oh, well, stuffing, candied yams, and green bean casserole. Um, of course, they are all original. She took something like greenbean casserole, a staple at millions of Thanksgiving tables every year, and "perfected" it. Just like she is able to cook the stuffing IN the turkey because she does it well. And it is amazing that she is able to spend "two full days" in the kitchen cooking while taking care of eight kids, the house, and now a website and coupon blog. All while Twittering. And she tops it off with "yuck pie" which her grandfather came up with, but she really made it something. She's my role model.
I don't want to put my usual screen name for this one because even NOW it embarrasses me. My mom and dad were divorced early and had many rocky relationships in between--one illiterate, toothless drinker for my mom, one bitchy money-hungry shrew who moved in with my dad and got pregnant by someone else during that time--passing the baby off as his. There were other men and women, too, and much bizarreness.
Did my friends know about the divorce? Only when they asked where my dad was. Did I EVER talk about the relationships? No way! When you're a child, you don't want to brag about it or even remember it. You keep it quiet. My brother and I would have those whispered conversations someone mentioned above. That was it. It was a humiliating situation when all we wanted was a mom and dad together "like everyone else."
I for one am right with the kids. I wouldn't talk about it. I DIDN'T talk about it--at all.
I think Kate and Steve are about as real as Kim Kardashian's marriage was. In other words, it could be just a ruse to make people think their an item to get more attention for Kate.
Then again, if it came out they were involved it wouldn't surprise me either. I'm so on the fence about whether these two are involved.
Why would Kate let the kids help her make TG dinner it might get messy but it's a good way to bond. I cook wirh my mom. Oh yeah i am talking about Katw.
Thanks Mama K for the link. I hadn't seen that clip. Thank you, I am much calmer now after having been livid about Hannah's pants. Leave it to AC to bring it all back home again. She was absolutely frantic over that dumb pizza. Steve must really be picky about his food and capable of kicking up quite a big fuss in private of course. Who in the hell eats salads on a frickin RV trip in the middle of the Mohave desert and what poor kids in America have to eat salad while the man of the house eats the last slice of pizza and sells out the kid who handed it to him. Just when I think she is not providing her 90% with enough material she gives back to us ten fold.
Kate admitted in her interview that she never used Coupon Cabin before they called her. She claimed she never even HEARD OF Coupon Cabin. That's who they choose for a spokesperson?
If she wasn't even aware Coupon Cabin existed then that means she wasn't using online coupons all these years so how coupon conscientious was she really? What a poor choice for a coupon spokesperson and blogger.
In the interview Kate also claimed that her main "thing right now" is Twitter and her website and networking with other moms. That's not a career! How does that help her fully support her family financially?
Why in the hell do you think he introduced her to his parents in New Zealand! That was the giveaway. I could not believe Gina and the boys did not go. They have been discreet. Why? Because TLC would have pitched a fit for her brand as a single mom to be destroyed and that branding continues. No one likes a homewrecker. And I seriously doubt Steve would marry her. I don't think he is in to the 8, just their hookerish mother. I always figured Jon had it right. A spouse can sense these things
I agree with a lot of people here who wonder what Steve could possibly see in Kate. There have been times that Kate has shown that she can be a very pleasant person when she wants to be. Perhaps that is how she is with Steve. On the other hand, maybe Steve is into being dominated and gets his kicks from a woman like Kate in and out of the bedroom. I'm sure Kate would make the perfect Dominatrix. Oh gross, I might have just made myself get sick with this comment.
Re: the Extra interview--granted, I'm tired, but I literally dozed off watching that. It's like she's trying to be the most boring person on the planet.
And don't worry, she'll never have her own talk show. She's dull, unfunny, completely lacking in personality or wit, and she can't string two words together.
You know that is strange about CC (refuse to use their name) but I am always looking for coupons on line and their name has never popped up when doing my searches.
Where is the how to flub up TG dinner material? Is that on her web site?
I tried to watch the Extra interview and could not do it in one sitting. I cannot believe that she thinks she could possibly get a talk show. First of all, she cannot even look at the interviewer for any amount of time before she either looks up or away. She wrings her hands. She has NO inflection in her voice. The whole interview made me cringe!
TLC stinks said... Why in the hell do you think he introduced her to his parents in New Zealand! That was the giveaway. I could not believe Gina and the boys did not go. They have been discreet. Why? Because TLC would have pitched a fit for her brand as a single mom to be destroyed and that branding continues. No one likes a homewrecker. And I seriously doubt Steve would marry her. I don't think he is in to the 8, just their hookerish mother. I always figured Jon had it right. A spouse can sense these things.
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You nailed it right on the head. Steve is totally not into those kids at all. You can tell from photos that he is very distant, almost dismissive of them.
Again, I agree with you, if there is something going on (which I'm not completely convinced there is)he would never marry Kate. She got Jon to marry her through manipulation. I'm not so sure she'd be able to manipulate Steve the same way. I mean Jon was very young and immature and and easy target when she got her claws into him and Steve is more mature and probably is on to her games.
Stewmamma the term "foot fetish" comes to my mind (foot licking/hooker heels); yuck, now I am sick! I need a hospital basin throw up bucket - you know the one kids are able to use independently.
She has NO inflection in her voice. The whole interview made me cringe! ******* House of Bruce. Well, not normal inflection. She did the uptalk/question thing a whole bunch and said "like" quite a few times. This was one of Kate's worst deliveries, not in terms of being nervous (which we've seen) but in terms of composure and ability to articulate her talking points. I got the sense that she didn't have a clue what she was going to write about for her TG blog entry. Cobbling it together at the last moment is not going to cut it.
Rule 4) It helps to be blond, divorced, separated, widowed, etc, that way, no man can get in the way of telling us how to raise the children, or in the Club, as we call them...The Merch.
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What an insensitive remark. Yes, I'm sure Terri Irwin celebrated her husband's death as it meant she could raise her children as she pleased.
I didn't see anyone suggest Terri Irwin celebrate Steve's death anyway. If anything she was probably terrified about how this was all going to continue--she got very lucky that Bindi took over. I thought it was in reference to the fact that TERRI isn't dating anyone EITHER, move out the way, men.
@ Tucker's Mom, her voice is just so blah. I am sure that her TG blog will be about how she slaves away in her kitchen making green bean casserole with cream of celery instead of mushroom. That would make it HER recipe and a complete original. If I had 8 kids I would let them help with everything. Just think how fast all of that cooking would get done. My daughter, who is 5, helps me cook everyday. She loves to bake and we have had brownie batter all over the place. There is no way I would tape garbage bags on my counters and make her get down on her hands and knees to clean up sugar. I stick by the quote "children won't remember what you said, but how you made them feel". I feel so sorry for those 8 kids.
Snark can be insensitive and mean-spirited, which this was. I don't happen to believe that couching something as snark should give people free reign to be nasty without being called on it.
Ok, lucky me, I tryed to watch that interview and lucky me, I hit the buffers, it took too long to download, I got like 2 words. So, I know I'm asking a lot. What BS did Kate say? Oh, more twitter silence!
You know what drives me batty when Kate does and interview?
The way she wobbles her head like a black chick does when she's pissed off. You know, the ole, "Don't you put your hands in my face!" kind of head wobble. Only black chicks can pull this off. When white girls do it, it looks low class.
I will be the first to admit I come for a little snark, but let's be tasteful please.
And I am also starting to think that the relationship beween K8 & Steve may be more than professional, but it is still very odd and a bit creepy. Perhaps he is dividing his weekends, and yes, she does seem to either twitter like mad or be dead silent. I still can't believe he is not being paid for all these travels and I also think he controls the relationship, accounting for her bizarre mood swings. Doubt his wife, or probably ex-wife, cares much one way or the other by now.
I watched Quints by Surprise last night, until I couldn't take it anymore.
Does anyone else think the dad is sort of weird? I sense a strange vibe between the parents - can't put my finger on it, but they seem sort of strange, scripted, something....
I had a feeling as I watched that they won't be together forever.
And bless their little hearts, those kids sure cry and scream a lot. It seemed like TLC kept setting up the script to get max chaos.
The dad kept wanting private time to watch football on TV, actually left the group to go downstairs by himself, leaving care of quints+1 to mom all alone. Odd...
And who in the hell takes 18 month old quints+1 to tailgate and to a football game????!!! Asking for trouble much?
I've only seen this one episode (partial) but sure didn't get a good vibe..........
Gosselin, Part Deux?
ON THE OTHER HAND, I had just watched the Duggars in Europe and those kids were so sweet and caring to each other - and Michelle and JimBob sure are loving and respectful toward each other. Regardless of how you feel about the Duggars, they ARE respectful and caring about each other! No histronics or mememe drama...
Snark can be insensitive and mean-spirited, which this was. I don't happen to believe that couching something as snark should give people free reign to be nasty without being called on it.
Tucker's Mom said... And Kate's going on and on about all of "her" recipes and anyone else's recipes that she cooks? Well, of course, she's "perfected" them. What an ego. I've seen nothing original or refined in all the years she's displayed her cooking skills. Her food looks serviceable. ----------------------------------------------- Serviceable at best. I've found, through the years, that people who do not enjoy eating make horrible cooks. Generally speaking, the food is "stick to the recipe", fat filled bland concoctions that I find unappealing. Looking at Katie's published "perfections", it doesn't seem that what she advocates as good food is what she eats. That is usually the tip off, to me, to be wary about the content.
I watched Quints by Surprise last night, until I couldn't take it anymore.
Does anyone else think the dad is sort of weird? I sense a strange vibe between the parents - can't put my finger on it, but they seem sort of strange, scripted, something...."
Those quints are 34 months old..too old for sippy cups and diapers. The father isn't related to them..sperm donor was used, so maybe he doesn't connect all that well with them? The mother is "Kate light."
Tucker's Mom said... She has NO inflection in her voice. The whole interview made me cringe! ******* House of Bruce. Well, not normal inflection. She did the uptalk/question thing a whole bunch and said "like" quite a few times. This was one of Kate's worst deliveries, not in terms of being nervous (which we've seen) but in terms of composure and ability to articulate her talking points. I got the sense that she didn't have a clue what she was going to write about for her TG blog entry. Cobbling it together at the last moment is not going to cut it. ________________________
Using "like" for every other word is a filler and used by teenie boppers or Kardashians or college-age kids because it's become the in-thing to do...all it denotes to me is being inarticulate and uneducated, and it's even worse than her continual "umm's."
You nailed it right on the head. Steve is totally not into those kids at all. You can tell from photos that he is very distant, almost dismissive of them.
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You can tell that from photos and the few times we've seen him interact with them on television? If he had been warm and affectionate, touchy-feely, showing a close relationship with them, then viewers would be saying that a bodyguard has no business doing that and it's just plain creepy.
Dallas Lady said... Re: the Extra interview--granted, I'm tired, but I literally dozed off watching that. It's like she's trying to be the most boring person on the planet.
And don't worry, she'll never have her own talk show. She's dull, unfunny, completely lacking in personality or wit, and she can't string two words together.
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Maybe she can host a late night creature feature t.v. show on public access.
Afterall, being a blood-sucking/life sucking harpy/pariah comes naturally to her. Being the new "Vampira" would fit her well.
Those quints are 34 months old..too old for sippy cups and diapers.
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Kids are potty-trained between two and three. Not all kids are completely potty trained by 34 months. Three years old is usually around the time to give up the cup. There's still time.
Sherry Baby. I so agree. Those kids are craving affection. You never see pics of Kate hugging them. There was one of Steve with one of the kids hugging his legs and he looked like a statue. I saw a picture a while back with Ellen carrying one of the kids and the others were all flocked around her. They all looked so happy. I am just hoping that they get the love, understanding and affection they need when they are with Jon. They obviously don't when they are with their mom and her "bodyguard".
34 months old??? Wow, I sure had their ages wrong...
Something about that couple/family just seems off. Can't put my finger on it. And it seems TLC's 'direction' of everyday events filming is majorly scripted. Thanks to kart, we as viewers have become good at identifying 'scripted' vs 'real reality'............ LOL.
Did notice that TLC used their sad refrain "Had our first child, then wanted just one more" - that's got to be getting old by now.
Unless any of those kids are identical, that doc inserted at least 5 fertilized embryos.
I have no problem with HOM UNLESS the doc deliberately inserts so many eggs, ie Octomom, and as long as the kids aren't exploited.
Again, I point to the McCaugheys and Dilleys as two HOM families who are doing it right, not exploiting their kids and seem to be raising 'normal' kids.
I just thought of this clip,when the tups were sitting in the rv eating on that last road trip.The tup wanted something and asked for it, can't remember what. I think Jaime's son said there were no servants here and he quipped back'" we do too, Steve." This is how they think of him? Strange......
I was particularly bothered by what I assume was TLCs idea: let's get all 5 kids bikes and take them out to a cul-de-sac and let them ride.
Um........ how about a really stupid idea - set them all up for failure and frustration AND THEN FILM IT.
Geez louise - anyone with half a brain would take one kid out at a time so they could help them, not turn them all loose with bikes they don't have the coordination to ride. What kind of parent would agree to such a baby clusterf*ck? REally!! Why wouldn't you want the kids to succeed and build their self-esteem?
I just bet the producers were chortling - "hey, yeah wait til you see them all fall on their faces and cry.... it's hilarious - great script idea guys!"
I get the feeling that the gosselin kids grew up and TLC wanted cute babies so they glommed onto the quints.
Pathetic. I'm sorry I stuck around on that show after surfing by.
If Khate believes she'll get a talk show, she needs to think again. It was so evident that the Extra interview was edited in multiple places, as someone mentioned above.
I'd not witnessed Khate being so very full of herself. The interview is a true example of how "me, me, me" and "I, I, I' that woman is.
What's with the ongoing hand movements and the continual movement of her eyes ~ up, down, back, forth? The whole interview was like something done by preteens, with preteens, and for preteens.
New York State of Mind - he/she doesn't have to be Kate just because he/she criticized the Admin. I too found the remark rather in poor taste.
I volunteer for Project Cornerstone (http://www.projectcornerstone.org/) and one of our goals is to teach children to be UPstanders rather than bystanders. One of the books we recently read with the kids was called "Just Kidding" (http://www.amazon.com/Just-Kidding-Trudy-Ludwig/dp/1582461635).
It discusses how one boy bullies the protagonist and then tries to brush it off with "I was just kidding".
Many of you will disagree with me and that's fine. However, I believe you should say what you mean and mean what you say. We also need to take responsibility for what comes out of our mouths because we all say careless and unkind words at one time or the other.
By saying "It was just a snark!" implies to me, Admin, that on some level you realize that it was perhaps not in the best taste. I apologize if you feel that I'm adding fuel to a potential flame war. That isn't my intention. I enjoy your blog very much and I don't usually see you try and dismiss your actions like this, so it took me by surprise a bit.
And then to have someone begin the "You said something critical, you must be a sheeple or Kate (or conversely, a hater or Jon/Ellen)" retort again was just frustrating. It's really the only thing I find irritating about the Gosselin blogosphere and it gets my goat, even though I know I should just ignore it.
Steve is the male version of Kate. Both wannabe stars and grifters. I think he thought if he hooked himself to Kate's star he'd rise faster. Instead they are both falling .. and with that extra added weight .. falling fast. They'd better think of a new scheme QUICKLY.
Permanent Name, I too caught Quints by Surprise last night (by accident, I was looking for The Little Couple). I felt the same way you did about the dad. He comes across as not wanting to be bothered with these kids then at the end of the episode went on and on about how much his kids’ happiness means to him. He made me a bit uncomfortable. I understand they’re not his biological children though. Do you think that makes a difference?
The mom, on the other hand, truly loves being a mom and playing with those kids. I never saw one hint of stress on her part; just joy.
Something about that couple/family just seems off. Can't put my finger on it. And it seems TLC's 'direction' of everyday events filming is majorly scripted. Thanks to kart, we as viewers have become good at identifying 'scripted' vs 'real reality'............ LOL.
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I agree. I only watched one show, when the little ones had escaped through the basement door. Nobody was watching them, but the camera crew was filming. The father was surprised to see them and said something like, "How did you get out here?" At the time I thought...how could you not know where your kids are. They were tiny toddlers then, had just learned to walk.
On the topic of “like, um, uh” I was just reading an article “The seven don’ts during a job interview” and that was a biggie. Candidates who used that kind of (they called it “street talk”) were a big turn off. If you consider that every TV appearance Kate makes is like a job interview, she is um, like, blowing it big time.
New York State of Mind - he/she doesn't have to be Kate just because he/she criticized the Admin. I too found the remark rather in poor taste.
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I didn't make any remark on the comment, whether it was snark or not, or if it was in poor taste. My comment was snark on Kate's free reign, rein, range!
The remarks re: Kate and her body guard over at Radar are all negative. No one is stupid and they are tired of being hoodwinked by the likes of Kate.
I, too, caught some of the Quints show. It will not last. Boring and there did appear to be a strange vibe between the parents. Is the Dad on that show the bio dad to the eldest child? It's all quite a repeat of J&K plus 8 down to the screaming/crying kids, etc. I agree with the "Kate light" comment. Spot on.
Stewmama said... I agree with a lot of people here who wonder what Steve could possibly see in Kate. There have been times that Kate has shown that she can be a very pleasant person when she wants to be. Perhaps that is how she is with Steve. On the other hand, maybe Steve is into being dominated. - I got the notion that Stevie boy is the dominant partner in that relationship. Remember how Kate truly freaked out about that piece of pizza. She was almost panicked at the thought she may have to tell Stevie the pizza was gone.
I, too, agree that Steve just isn't into those adorable kids. He seems to be a very cold individual.
I caught some of that quints show too, much like 'gosselin extra-light'to me. The dad is complaining too much about the football game he's missing and the mom is loving and enjoying the time with kids.
The kids are calmer and both parents are better parents than Jon and Kate portrayed on their show, but something is missing.The dad just doesn't come off as emotionally invested,maybe as the kids are not biologically his?
Their show may be normal and we are used to the abusive aspects of the Gosselins, so it feels wrong, who knows? I can see TLC starting to script in the same things seen on Jon and Kate. This show kinda comes off as boring ,due to lack of drama and noise level.
Something that ticks me off whenever I see it: the "apologists for Kate" on Twitter. When she's not tweeting directly to Kate, the one known as miloandjack takes it upon herself to make excuses and explanations for Kate. Today, in response to the story about Jon having the kids (which has already been debunked), miloandjack takes to Twitter to pooh-pooh the idea, in part using this comment:
miloandjack XXXXXXXX @kateplusmy8 Sorta doubt that Jon had kids the whole time...Kate tweeted that she prepared meals ahead of time 4 kids @home?
Now the fact of the matter is, Kate tweeted NO SUCH THING about having prepared meals ahead for the kids. NOT ONCE. (Her Twitter feed for the last 10 days is so short, you can review it in under 2 minutes.) So who is this person, and why does she feel the need to put "politically correct" (i.e., what she interprets as "supermom"-like) comments such as this out there IN LIEU OF her idol Kate's own comments? What is it Milo, did Kate "just forget" to say this? Is she just "too busy" to say it? But you are sure it's true, so YOU'll say it?
You know, the sheeple go on and on about made-up rumors, but they are at least as bad as the tabs and non-fans in terms of imputing things to Kate that she never said or did. Who put miloandjack in charge of maintaining/promoting/INVENTING Kate's image?
The sycophancy is stifling and does little to help Kate's public face, though it does promote the image of her "fans" as stubbornly and purposefully delusional. Let her speak for herself, Milo, her native language is English and I don't believe she needs an interpreter.
Thanks for the link upthread for the E! interview. I just watched it.
Let's see, what can I say? Hmmmmmmm.... well, I could say.......... um.....no, I couldn't say that......... ok, let's really think here..... ok, well there's this: she's a really, honestly, truly poor speaker! (read that with an upspeak at the end?)
Geez, she's bad. And arrogant. And highly edited. And wiggly. And has roaming eyes, which make me think she's lying - hmmmmmm.
The interviewer didn't seem into her at all. He was just reading down a list of questions.
All in all, BAD!
Good lucky honey if you think you'll ever get a talk show......
Just about the only thing left for her to do is come out with the "We fell in love" shit - Maybe, just maybe she could get some mileage out of that for a little bit...
Kate did tweet this to mumbear9, who was in Australia when Kate was there commiserating with mumbear9 and saying what she does in preparation for leaving on a trip:
Kateplusmy8 @mumbear9 I can't the feeling.. I plan fun stuff& cook mommy food 4 mine.can't wait 2b home again and want 2 know they r happy while away!:)
Seems to me Kate said she cooked meals for 2 wks. for the road trip, making a big deal of loading all that cooked food on to the RV.So, where was it when they had to order pizza for lunch? Kate could have warmed up a whole lunch for Steve from that stash, ha ha.
Now, she could have left meals for when she went to Australia for Jon to warm up.Raise your hands if we think she did? Didn't think so, but the sheeple will make it up for Kate to try and make her look good. 'There are none so blind, as those that will not see.'Sorry, that just came to my mind, forget who and where it was said.
I wonder when Kate asked Jon to look after the kids? I can't see her being nice to him, probably killed her to leave them with him at all and maybe asked the day before? Do we know for sure he is there or has them at his place?
Miloandjack also goes by "FiredUp4Kate" and truly believes she and Kate are good friends. She's beyond scary and I wouldn't let her have communication with my pet hamster.
Bonnie Fuller has been hard on Kate recently, and rightly so. I'll bet Kate's PR person, told Bonnie Jon had the kids so as to make it seem Kate was acting like a good Mom and letting their Dad have time with them. Jon set her straight. Bonnie reallyneeds new sources.
Kate doesn't rate said... Kate did tweet this to mumbear9, who was in Australia when Kate was there commiserating with mumbear9 and saying what she does in preparation for leaving on a trip:
Kateplusmy8 @mumbear9 I can't the feeling.. I plan fun stuff& cook mommy food 4 mine.can't wait 2b home again and want 2 know they r happy while away!:) _____________________
Then, why don't you try calling them, you miserable BITCH.
My guess is Kate is the one who "leaked" that Jon had the kids, because it makes her look better. If she's going to ditch the kids to leave the country to go play celebrity and chase fame, then it looks better that the kids are with their dad rather than a random teenaged babysitter in order for her to do it.
Glad Jon set that record straight. Kate has zero qualms about leaving the country and handing her kids over to the nanny of the month. Nope. As long as she gets her ego stroked somewhere else, the kids can be boarded in a dog kennel if that's what it took.
@Kate doesn't rate...Kate has said repeatedly she does not call the kids while away...and, if she did, she wouldn't have to wait to be home to know they were happy while she was gone. She's.A.Fraud.
@House of Bruce -- If Kate publishes a recipe for green bean casserole using cream of celery soup instead of cream of mushroom soup, claiming it as HER innovation, I'm going to cry PLAGERISM! I've been making green bean casserole with cream of celery soup for 30+ years, because I'm allergic to mushrooms (sometimes I use cream of onion soup, but that's very hard to find).
Why do people continually pick on Jon and call him a douche bag for wearing Ed Hardy shirts? It was a JOB! Product placement. Ed Hardy sent him a box of shirts to wear on the show. This was widely reported at the time.
IMO, the expression on Kate's face in the pix for this thread says it all. Did she ever look at Jon like that? Even at the time she was supposedly head over heels in love with him? I've always felt that they were a couple. Now I'm convinced of it.
In the quints by surprise bio, it says all 6 children are from the same sperm donor. I don't know about you, but if it were me, I don't think I would feel the need to share that with anyone in the public. Wonder what the father is considered to be, legally? He's not the bio dad, not a step dad..would he need to adopt them, or do they sign something before the procedure, that says he will legally be heir father if any are born?
My, Steve's looking a little.....different these days.
I think Khate and Stevie only take an additional couple days all alone when they come back from a trip with the kids and the TLC film crew. She's been all alone with him for about 9 days by now.
Does anyone remember when she was talking to the caterer for the tups last birthday party. She told him that she wanted sandwiches for the kids with peanut butter and marshmallow fluff. The way she said it to him made me think that she wanted him to be impressed that she had come up with a new concoction. When he casually said, "oh, okay, you want fluff 'n nutters" she actually said, "there's a name for them?". Is she playing stupid or is she really that stupid????
She better be planning to check all that baggage. Doesn't look like it though, if Steve only has what looks like a rolling computer bag or a small carry on. I fly a lot and it burns my biscuits that people carry on wayyyyyy more than is allowed. Overseas though, they will call you on it, most of the time. For the sheeple who will say that it's different in first class, it isn't. My husband's company pays for him to fly first class and occasionally I get bumped up too. 1 carry-on and 1 small personal item. Period. Radar can't get anything right - jeans? Yeah, black spandex legging jeans! With nothing covering up her cookie or her booty - again!
Who put miloandjack in charge of maintaining/promoting/INVENTING Kate's image?
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Miloandjack put miloandjack in charge of Kate. She's certifiable. No ifs, ands, or buts (except maybe Sheeple butts)... No snark. She really is off the wall crazy.
House of Bruce- No - she is really that stupid. She mimics other real moms and then acts surprised that any other mother could possibly think of this! Pure Katerism.....
There is no way I would let my husband galavant around the world with another woman. No way, no how!!! Bodyguard my ass! And Steve, lose the sweater, you look lilke a tool!
Miloandjack put miloandjack in charge of Kate. She's certifiable. No ifs, ands, or buts (except maybe Sheeple butts)... No snark. She really is off the wall crazy. ________
I just want to know why she never uses that "g" on her keyboard.
She can't possibly be as backwoods as she tries to make herself sound. Does she write that way on blogs too or was it just a way of getting Kate's attention on Twitter?
House of Bruce- They are both tools which explains why people post on this blog. What did the kids stand to gain from this experience? Nada, It was all about what is best for Kate in every situation.
Appreciate your indignation, most of us are completely fed up with Kate's selfish antics, claiming to be a super mom, while hiring babysitters, when she is home, and traveling as much as she can on the kids's dime, while claiming she is broke. Can't have it both ways! It is all about Kate!
@Gosselin 8 come first, I have been irked by Kate for a long time! I just haven't posted because I honestly couldn't figure out how to do it. Um, like I figured out to like use my google account. LOL
I was only able to watch the first bit of the interview, my computer knew it would make me sick, so it refused to play it :) But Did anyone esle notice that Kate's forehead isn't moving much?! And she raises her eyebrows a lot. I know in a recent interview she did state that she wasn't opposed to paltsic surgery if it helped you to feel better about yourself, and I knew then she was going to be getting more done. I think she has had something done to her nose, it seems more uplifted now then in the picture with the fork over her head. But really, it doesn't matter, just don't lie abut it...
The sheeple are funny, very funny! They are defending Kate's selfish behavior on the most recent Radar post with ridiculous excuses. It is a satirical comedy!
New York State of Mind said... Snark can be insensitive and mean-spirited, which this was. I don't happen to believe that couching something as snark should give people free reign to be nasty without being called on it.
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Kate? Is that you? Free reign or rein? :) November 16, 2011 8:03 AM New York State of Mind said... ...Or free range? Are you sure? Which is it?
***** New York, when reading your reply to Wow, Just Wow, it seemed you were implying that he/she was Kate. And I missed the smiley face at the end, so I'm thinking you were just trying to tease her about her grammar?
For myself, I'm not overly concerned about spelling and grammar here, unless it's really getting in the way of my understanding the point someone is trying to make. I use my iPhone sometimes when I comment and will make my fair share of spelling and grammatical errors, so, again, I try and be understanding. None of us are perfect.
I just watched the Extra interview. WTF???? Is Kate 13 years old? Every other word out of her mouth is "like." There aren't as many "ums" but there are enough to make the interview atrocious. I just can't believe that she thinks she has a future as a talk show host. The woman is so inarticulate and uneducated.
Anyone else notice how unhappy and emotionless she looks? And she expects anyone to want to hire her for her own talk show? Yeah, good luck on that one Kate.
Someone on one of the other threads swore up and down that Kate had her teeth fixed (that terribly mis-aligned upper jaw). In the "gazing" photo with Steve on this thread, you can see very clearly that Kate didn't go under the oral surgery knife, or have any other dental procedure done to correct the problem.
I can't figure out the Steve and Kate thing either. Will find out in the end, one way or the other, I suppose. Obviously, if he's with her, he must find her attractive in some way. But honestly (and I apologize if I offend anyone), if Steve and Kate were together, I would think Kate would be a little more relaxed from having regular sex. She just seems way too up tight for someone with a lover.
I know that if he were my husband, I would have asked him to quit a long time ago or at least when TLC pulled the plug. If he refused, we'd be legally separated or divorced. Fortunately, my husband would.
Also, could someone send the link where Jon told Bonnie Fuller he was not taking care of the kids while Kate was gone? I think this was a rumor that started on Gather and caught some steam.
"New York, when reading your reply to Wow, Just Wow, it seemed you were implying that he/she was Kate. And I missed the smiley face at the end, so I'm thinking you were just trying to tease her about her grammar?"
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Nope. Not a grammar teaser. Just snarking at KATE (not at WOW) about her free raining, reigning, reining, ranging snafu -- if she reads here!!!!!!! :) :) :)
I saw the story and asked anyone who was on Jon's Twitter list to advise if Jon had mentioned having the kids. Jane sent back a copy of Jon's tweet to hollybaby:
jongosselin1 Jon Gosselin @ @HLBaby Your story is untrue and your sources are unreliable.
I think the fact that Kate was so unspecific about what the kids were doing in her absence led people to speculate that perhaps she had asked Jon to take them/stay with them. She really said very little on Twitter about her plans for herself or the kids. Which is fine, but then people start putting things into her mouth that she never said. Fans and non-fans alike.
Bells On Bobtail Ring said... Someone on one of the other threads swore up and down that Kate had her teeth fixed (that terribly mis-aligned upper jaw). In the "gazing" photo with Steve on this thread, you can see very clearly that Kate didn't go under the oral surgery knife, or have any other dental procedure done to correct the problem. -- CAPS done. Not oral surgery. And she very clearly DID have her teeth capped. She is s SUPER star!
Well isn't Stevie just precious with his little sweater thrown over his shoulders? LOL. As for Kate, all I can say is at least she hasn't dug out the hooker heels yet.
Wow, just watched the Kate interview. The interviewer seemed thrilled to be there.
I have to say, Kate was much more interesting to watch before she divorced Jon. Yes, she was still a shrew, yes she was narcissistic, but not to the degree she is now. I think. She was much more animated. She just kind of seems like the walking dead right now and just...sad. Tired and sad, with no joy in life. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. It's just my impression.
I just think it's, again, sad. For someone who claims to love being on television, she really doesn't light up at all when she's on. She acts most times like her children are just this responsibility, this burden that she must bear because no one else will.
The only time she seems animated at all is when she's on Twitter. That, imo, is pathetic.
You just know AJ Calloway, the interviewer, was laughing hysterically inside when she said that she really wants to do a talk show. I'm surprised he didn't fall out of his chair trying to hold it in.
CAPS done. Not oral surgery. And she very clearly DID have her teeth capped. She is s SUPER star!
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Of course she had work done on her teeth. My comment was in response to the poster who said that she no longer has the mis-aligned upper jaw and that in another photo (with the koala) her teeth lined up perfectly under her nose, and therefore, she had the problem corrected. It was the discussion on the previous thread.
However, if you look at the photo with her looking at Steve at the zoo, her upper jaw is still off to the left and needs to be moved to the right to line up under her nose. Not a simple dental procedure.
a coincidence is not the same as an accident said... I saw in the paper the other day that the Phila. marathon is this weekend. I don't know anything about running, but, as many have said, wouldn't it be better for a cash-strapped mom of EIGHT!!!!!!!! kids to try a local one, rather than flying to freakin' Las Vegas???
She disgusts me. She wants to be revered as the world's greatest mother, yet avoids her children as much as she possibly can. HOW do the sheeple not see this? (rhetorical question) ___________
Trying to catch up with all of the posts, but I completely agree, there is no reason in the world Kate needs to travel, and could not do a local marathon, other than to get away from her kids. This woman has serious "maternal issues" and does not want to be home.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 506 Newer› Newest»I saw in the paper the other day that the Phila. marathon is this weekend. I don't know anything about running, but, as many have said, wouldn't it be better for a cash-strapped mom of EIGHT!!!!!!!! kids to try a local one, rather than flying to freakin' Las Vegas???
She disgusts me. She wants to be revered as the world's greatest mother, yet avoids her children as much as she possibly can. HOW do the sheeple not see this? (rhetorical question)
fidosmommy and everyone else who has shared, I'm so sorry for your losses :-(
Hmmm is right!
Thing I have always wondered is this:
If Kate is paying him X-amount of money to do his job and "guard" her...does he use his pay check to pay his own way to travel with her? Or is this part of his pay check? How does this guy afford to fly first class with Kate, when Kate is so cheap on her own kids and crying broke and how scared she is?
Why is she the one with the bodyguard? I've said it before. Other celebs in Hollywood go out, no makeup, baggy jeans, frumpy hair, flip flops, whatever to go about their daily business like any other person named Joe or Sue.
Yet here Kate is, constantly accompanied by Steve. To book signings, on family vacations, jetting across the world to Aus. and such places. No doubt he will be in LV with her.
Just what exactly does Kate need all this protection from? Like anybody in nice PA would really, truly bother her.
She is the one who signed up for this lifestyle. Consequence of this should be her having to deal with it. Be a big girl, so to speak.
She says she is broke, but then turns around to spend money as if it's liquid gold. You can't have it both ways. Well...maybe you can if you're THE Kate Gosselin.
I'm still not sure why Kate even has the last name Gosselin anymore. Once you get divorced..don't you go back to your maiden name? Her kids are the one's who are famous and she knows it.
My best guess right now is that Kate saved and invested more money than we ever gave her credit for, there's just no way TLC would keep paying for all of this or even some of this. There are only so many freebies that can go around before they dry up. Her whole expensive life can't possibly all be free.
So, she's lying about being poor. She probably doesn't see it as a lie. You see if nothing at all ever comes up again I COULD be poor if I don't play my cards right. Therefore in Kate's mind, not a lie.
Kate paying Steve? Some would call this prostitution.
Admin, I love the addition of the little hearts around them. Too funny! I don't see how anyone can possibly think that they aren't involved. It will all come out eventually.
Yeah...this it too convenient. Kate will do anything to keep herself in the spotlight...including making it look like she and Steve are an item.
Kate knows the pap is there...
I'm not buying it.
That look on her face speaks volumes.
Kate is so lazy. She should have known enough by now as a "producer" (yeah right) and being in the business for five years now to be able to start her own production company and make her own shows. MAKE something, then pitch it to a network just like everybody else does. Don't just sitting around waiting for the offer to come because it hasn't and won't.
Almost every big actor has their own production company and when they don't like the projects out there or no one is giving them projects, they just make their own and sell them to studios or get studios on board even earlier.
When networks drop you, boy do they ever DROP YOU. They don't even look back. Kate is lucky she was told before the public found out, many aren't. I don't believe for a second TLC is doing anything for her. She is not a charity case and they are not the welfare system, she has been on her own since the axe fell.
I think Kate is waiting until she has as little relevance as possible, then will pull out the whole I'm marrying Steve! card to squeak out a little more fame just a little longer.
That does it! They're a couple. Jon was right. Who knows what Steve sees in her.
So that's why she asked his opinion on how big to inflate the girls. It's why she always looks so happy around him and in photos he takes. It explains the RV comment, "It's all about HIM, isn't it?" It's the reason they always HAD to have adjoining hotel rooms. And it's why Kate LOVES Aus and NZ--her baby's home turf. She wanted to be Asian. Now she wants to be from Down Under.
I'll bet she made a play for that first trip to Aus/NZ--it was her idea, not TLC's. She was still a moneymaker, so they agreed.
Someone noted the other day that Gina had been there for one Thanksgiving and then Steve came alone for the next. (Am I remembering right?) So Gina must have gotten the news somewhere between those Thanksgivings. I bet Steve lives with Kate.
Kate has done herself in this time. If they're NOT a couple, then she's not "poor" as she claims to be since she's paying for first class(?) airfare to the other side of the world and for his separate hotel room. (Yeah, right!) If they ARE a couple, then Steve was the reason she told Jon the marriage was over, he's the reason for the major makeover, and they're both home wreckers. Great for whatever's left of her image.
Whoever said that they were gradually working Steve into the show to test the waters for them coming out as couple was probably right.
P.S. I love the hearts, too!
Unless Gina is divorced from Steve, and unless his 2 children are OK with this togetherness, I think this picture would be very hurtful to the Neilds.
Gina is a big girl and if she doesn't like what her husband is doing she can ask him to stop or divorce him.
But as for his teen boys? That's what gets me. I find this whole public thing extremely disrespectful to them. If you're going to spend this much time with a woman clearly obsessed with you, at least do their mother the courtesy of filing for divorce.
The ONLY thing I know about Gina Neild is that she is blonde. I don't know if she's tall, short, large, small.....
With that said, I can almost hear Steve and Kate having a chat. Steve is saying he was attracted to Gina because she's blonde - his favorite color - and keeps her hair long. She's athletic and is strong and was quite slim when they met. But she's had 2 children and has a bit of a tummy she can't get rid of, and he kind of wishes she could because she'd be happier with herself. And on he goes, speaking of the Gina he fell in love with, the things about her he still really likes. Just a nice little chat.
Kate is taking notes. Blonde, longer tresses,
no baby tummy, athletic...... and she begins to reinvent herself to be his new perfect woman.
All conjecture, of course. Like I said, Gina may be nothing like I've described.
Administrator said...
I think Kate is waiting until she has as little relevance as possible, then will pull out the whole I'm marrying Steve! card to squeak out a little more fame just a little longer.
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I think you hit the nail on the head, Admin. I've thought for awhile that she will do this.
Also, Kate's disrespect for Jon was never more apparent then when he spoke about how Steve made him uncomfortable and there was an appearance of something. If a woman claiming she was trying to save her marriage, as she did claim, really was serious, she would get rid of anything standing in the way.
Essentially, she put Steve before Jon's wishes, their marriage, and any hope of reconciling. Steve was more important than simply getting rid of someone that made Jon uncomfortable. If Steve meant nothing, she should have just cut him off and replaced him, easy. And if Steve had any honor, he would say look Kate I care for you but I don't want to be responsible for breaking up a marriage, I can recommend another great bodyguard but I'm resigning. None of that of course ever happened.
Oops. I didn't phrase my thoughts right. Let me try again.
Unless Gina and Steve are divorced, I would think that seeing Kate and Steve looking at each other that way would be very hurtful.
I was NOT implying that this picture should not have been posted.
No change to the comment about their children, though.
Fidosmommy that's what I wondered at first if you meant this pic should be taken down. I was like, wait, Fido against exposing Kate??? :-)
I also think that after more than two years, and Kate still doesn't have a single date? There must be someone out there who will at least go on a date or two. I think she's not really looking because she's got Steve.
The sheeple try to say you don't need a man and she is a smart strong woman without a man. But Kate never went around saying I don't want a man a man doesn't define me! Kate has talked about getting dates and men to an embarrassing degree, even flagging down a Steve look-a-like at DC cupcakes, and making an entire episode about finding men in a club. She never once suggested she's prepared to go it alone, which I have no problem with! It's just not the case here per Kate's own statements and actions!
i have noticed though, she hasn't mentioned dating or a man in a LONG time. Another hmm. You tend not to talk about dating and men when you're, you know, seeing someone.
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Also, Kate's disrespect for Jon was never more apparent then when he spoke about how Steve made him uncomfortable and there was an appearance of something.....
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Everything you said, Admin. I've been saying it for a couple years now. If my husband looked the cuckold, and was diminished in any way, even though I did nothing wrong but the appearance of something wrong existed, I'd have replace Steve quicker than you could say "Whateevah".
(and I have no idea why my name has a weird hyperlink above)
Everything you said, Admin. I've been saying it for a couple years now. If my husband looked the cuckold, and was diminished in any way, even though I did nothing wrong but the appearance of something wrong existed, I'd have replace Steve quicker than you could say "Whateevah".
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Bingo. Relationships 101 here. If I'm trying to save a relationship as Kate claimed, and the person I love is uncomfortable about someone because it LOOKS LIKE AN AFFAIR (and it's not paranoia, we all said it), that person is gone. Whatever it takes to save it.
It's not like Jon has ever complained about anyone else in her life before. It's not like he's a controlling jerk (that's Kate actually) who is telling her who she can and cannot talk to and who can and cannot be in her life. He said he made me uncomfortable. It's the first time we've ever heard him complain once about the company Kate keeps.
Out of respect for him and the children's father? Steve shoulda been gone.
This is from the other thread, but why on earth would she send Hannah to school with her pants like that. Those are obviously Cara or Mady's pants. Guess the laundry girl was out and she couldn't be bothered herself. So much for all that laundry talk.
As for the above - who are they trying to kid?
Generally what we see out here when celebs like Kate have a "staff"? Women pick other women for their staff (or, gay men) and men pick other men.
Sorry, but any of these fools know you are probably as a celeb going to be spending way more time with your assistant than with your wife or husband. Why not just pick someone your gender and save yourself the agony? This is one way to keep a marriage.
Steve is an assistant. Fire him, hire a woman. Problem solved.
I don't know the time difference between the US and Australia, but the RO articles says they were seen having dinner in Chicago on the 14th. At first I assumed they made an error (wouldn't be the first time). But then reading the comments, someone in the Chicago area saw them yesterday.
Could she be back in the states, working at her new job?
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I posted in the other thread not knowing about this new thread.
If Kate and Steve are really lovers and he lives in her home & bedroom, the kids would be very aware of this. Remember the most recent question and answer session Kate had on her show over the summer. The kids were all asked about whether they wanted Kate to remarry. Not one of the eight mentioned the possiblity of Kate marrying Steve.
Some may think that Kate told the kids never to mention "their relationship" but I think the kids are all too young to follow or understand that rule. After 5 years of Steve being around Kate, the kids would have messed up with "Mommy is in love with Steve" type of comment. Or "I hope Mommy and Steve marry". But that has never happened. (I don't believe that article years ago that said Mady caught them kissing). Steve has 2 kids of his own. Certainly they would be talking to their family and friends about this. And then Gina would have had to be secret about this very personal matter of her husband living and loving someone as famous as Kate. Gina would have discussed this with her parents, friends, co-workers, neighbors, etc.
Admin., what made you change your mind about them being a couple?
Re; Hannah's pants. Zowee. She's dressed like a poor kid with a negligent mother. And she basically is. Yeah they have the big house and go to the private school, but that's all for Kate's ego, not the kids' well-being. But those kids are like skimped upon in so many ways...love and affection for sure. Settling for clothing that is donated or paid for by TLC. The saddest meals ever. Kate told Jodi that she felt that others should pay to support her kids because she has 8 when Jodi told her to back off on the gritting. Kate will pinch pennies with those kids and spend willy-nilly on making herself look more and more like the Grinch each day. No way would Kate walk out of the house looking like such a ragamuffin, yet the kids can look like characters in Oliver so long as the cameras aren't rolling. Shameful
Well, this Extra interview with Kate is dated today:;
http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2011/11/kate_gosselin_lands_new_gig_but_still_wants_a_talk_show.php
Looks like it was done in a hotel lobby.
Maggie, I'm not sure I completely have committed to them being a couple, lol.
I'm considering it a lot more seriously lately.
Two reasons. One, TLC is gone, but Steve is still around. Like cheap-o Kate would actually pay for her own bodyguard? Second, I've got a couple trusted insiders who say Steve is spending some weekends with Kate and others with his kids.
When we know Kate is with Steve, there is almost always Twitter silence. He feeds her. She has gone twitter silent for unexplained reasons on many a weekend. And on others, like perhaps when he's not there? She's twittering every 30 seconds. Huge difference.
Kate on extra today I think talking about how she wants a man again. She gpt the weave fixed and looks pretty decent.
Second note if Kate and, Steve gave up their marriage for each other then they deserve one another. Maybe Gina is taking the high road for hwe their two kids.
Regarding the picture up thread, yeah, Kate looks to be infatuated with Steve. She never looked at Jon that way. And it's never been disputed that she is into him. I still have a hard time believing ANYONE could be attracted to Kreider, but it does make me wonder why Steve doesn't try to distance himself from her if he's not involved. The affair, whether real or manufactured, must be terribly hurtful to his boys and Gina. Can you imagine how humiliating it must be for those boys to have their friends think their dad is involved with that fool Kreider? Ugh.
She is definitely having an affair with Steve and has been testing the waters by telling everyone how her kids "want her to get remarried". When it comes out about them, she can say she's doing it for her kids cause they love and know Steve. If there wasn't something going on he wouldn' t be Steve, he'd be Mr Gray Haired Bodyguard Man, and she would not have worried if he had his pizza or not if he was just her employee. Have we ever seen her even be considerate to her employees or volunteers? The bodyguard bit is BS too. It has gone on way too long without hearing about any threats against her, real or not. You'd think with all the publicity she has gotten we would have hear about a stalker or threat like some real celebrities have had to deal with. Besides her big smile at him in the picture above, his body language looks like they're a couple.
Maggie, what makes you think that we've seen even a tenth of what TLC has recorded? I think the kids have been carefully schooled not to say anything. And I also think there may have been plenty of slip-ups on camera that were not put in the show. It is no accident that the remark by Jamie (Ashley?) on the RV trip, "It's all about him," made it into the final cut. This is when you knew TLC had lowered the boom.
JMC, unless she has a time machine, she couldn't possibly be back in the States even now, let alone on 11/14. It's nearly 11 p.m. EST (11/15) and so it is 2 p.m. (11/16) in Brisbane AUS. She probably left there today, and it will take at least 13 hours to get to the West Coast, where she will likely be changing planes. (And maybe doing an interview with Extra? I dunno, read it somewhere.)
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Some may think that Kate told the kids never to mention "their relationship" but I think the kids are all too young to follow or understand that rule. After 5 years of Steve being around Kate, the kids would have messed up with "Mommy is in love with Steve" type of comment. Or "I hope Mommy and Steve marry". But that has never happened.
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How do you know it's never happened? Maybe it just was never caught on film.
And, again, Kate had a knack for putting the fear of God in those kids and probably threatened bodily harm ( aka ass whoopin' ), no Christmas presents, no trick-or-treating ( hmmmmm), will not go to heaven, will have to eat everyone else's old sandwiches for the rest of the year, will have to clean the chicken poop, and will be yanked out of their school and out in yucky public school, and will never see one red cent of their hard earned exploitation money ...if they spill the beans about mommy and Steve.
So...is equine probiotic care advertising on this site because Kate looks like a horse?
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It is no accident that the remark by Jamie (Ashley?) on the RV trip, "It's all about him," made it into the final cut. This is when you knew TLC had lowered the boom.
It only made the cut for the preview on the TLC website and Radar Online, but on the actual episode on tv, it was edited out. I bet Kate pee'd herself when she saw they included that and begged them to edit it before airing on tv.
During the lover's spat over his refusal to do something about the man who took a picture of her, and her yelling at him and slamming the RV door and then insisting he come in so they could discuss it privately, that's when I knew FOR SURE that they are a couple. No doubt in my mind. If this man is still Gina Nield's husband, then Gina Neild is the biggest fool on the planet because her husband is and has been Kate's lover for several years now.
Hi, how come Coupon Cabin is advertising on this site. This is the company Kate is blogging for, right, or am I confused?
Why isn't it possible that Gina is glad to be rid of Steve???
Maybe the Neilds have an open marrige that sort of thing does happen.
I watched the Extra link on-line and I watched the actual interview on Extra today. Extra cut much of what she said for tv. I would guess they didn't find her interesting because her interview on tv was very brief but her on-line interview is over 4 minutes.
And all of her forehead lines and her deep eleven squint lines between her eyes are gone. She is a liar because either Extra did an excellent job and packed her lines with make-up or she had botox. She had botox...no doubt. And I hate to admit it but I even looked at her forehead with a magnifying mirror and her forehead is void of those lines that we saw for years and years.
And it scares me when she says,"I definitely have always said I think a talk show is possibly in my future... and so, we will wait and see." Oh, please, please let it not be true. Why would she say that in public if there is zero possiblity of no talk show. She seems too confident and is always dropping hints like she has something going on in the future.
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Maggie, I'm not sure I completely have committed to them being a couple, lol.
I'm considering it a lot more seriously lately.
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I always doubted them as a couple, because I couldn't understand how any guy could possibly be attracted to Kate. I am starting to see that they are quite possibly a couple and have been for some time, but the thing I don't get is, why is Steve still with her?! Surely he's not still in love with her, is he? After the whole RV trip fiasco, I figured he was done with her. Didn't one of the camera men ask Steve if he'd go camping with the family again, and Steve said, "ask me again in six months." After everything Kate has done- throwing a tantrum while in Alaska with Sarah Palin, throwing a tantrum over pizza, shaking Mady so hard she made her cry, bossing Steve around like she did Jon, etc., how in the world can Steve still be attracted to that woman?
Do you really think kids that young, 11 and under at the time could have kept Kate-Steve affair quiet? I don't mean to give kids a bad view here, but as kids, didn't you all find it really hard to keep a secret at that age? I don't care if Kate threatened them with her stupid, "upon penalty of severeness," rule kids are kids.
But if they have been in a relationship, how do they keep it hidden exactly? No photographs of them kissing, maybe the one's Steve asked to be deleted, however. No other eye witness accounts.
Jon got caught by paps with a few other women, so just how does Ms. Important keep this to herself and not get a pap photo taken at some point? Evidence speaks for itself, and I don't see any.
I guess with Thanksgiving coming, we will see who shows up at Kate's house. She's not going to, you know, dress her kids up in Native American costumes again is she? That was just so...bizarre to say the least. Nothing wrong with it I guess, but...maybe it's just me.
If Kate comes clean and admits she and Steve are together than I guess she's not a 'SINGLE MOM' after all is she?
She'll probably announce he was right under her nose the whole time and she didn't even notice.
http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2011/11/kate_gosselin_lands_new_gig_but_still_wants_a_talk_show.php
Here's the online interview with Extra. They only showed about one minute of it on their show. It's the most boring interview ever! Khate never makes real eye contact and comes across so disingenuous! What a terrible spokesperson! Geesh!
Hi, how come Coupon Cabin is advertising on this site. This is the company Kate is blogging for, right, or am I confused?
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Where is there an ad for CC on this site? My page doesn't have one. Have you gone to their webpage? If so, it might show up as an ad on this page.
Steve and Kate are a couple; there is no doubt in my mind.
Does anyone remember the episode where the Neild family visited the Gosselins at the McMansion? The whole gang was outside in the back of the property. I looked at Gina on camera and thought, "OMG! Here is an older version of Kate!" Long, bleached blonde hair, busty, similar features, a bit overweight, but still attractive. This is the type of woman Steve likes, because obviously he married a Kate semi look-alike.
This coincided with Kate's weight loss and newly skankified appearance. So there you have it. They are a couple and their frequent, private jaunts out of town gave them plenty of time to be together. But what in God's name does he see in a toxic, abusive narcissist? Guess some guys are into this.
Do you really think kids that young, 11 and under at the time could have kept Kate-Steve affair quiet?
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The public's access to the children's VOICES has been extremely limited. Think about it. We've only ever heard them speak on brief couch interviews and asked specific questions. Any blabbing about Steve could have been edited out.
I also think for many of the kids, the little kids for sure, they don't know anything different. Steve has been around for years. It's likely at least the little kids don't think there is anything strange about this. The little kids probably barely remember the divorce and barely remember a time when Steve wasn't with Mommy.
I also think Steve helps to defuse Kate a little. The kids might actually like Steve around because he keeps Kate in check. Remember Kate wanted to grill up chicken. Steve was the leader in saying no way, we're hungry we're just going to get pizza. They might appreciate the way he stands up for them and stands up for doing reasonable, NON-crazy things.
These kids don't seem that vicious to me. They seem quite open to people. They seemed to have accepted Ellen quite easily. They may do the same with Steve. It will be later, the teenage years and so on, when they will start to grasp how dysfunctional their lives have been.
Oh I believe TLC could have easily edited out any kid slips in reference to Steve.
I said for a long time I thought she wanted a relationship, but he was just along for the money ride from TLC.
But the TLC gravy train derailed in AUGUST. She clearly has no need for a bodyguard and he never really acted in that capacity, anyway.
So yeah. I now find it quite odd. Jon knew all along, of course he did. I'm sure Steve was still with Gina when this all started years ago, but I'm also pretty sure they're divorced by now. Kate the Homewrecker.
As for what he sees in her, he might be just as stupid as her, but in different ways. Like attracts like. However, I do predict it won't last. Malignant narcissists certainly have a difficult time with long-term relationships, and if he'd leave his wife to get with her, who's to say he wouldn't leave her to get with his next piece?
Her kids must be so confused.
Everyone gets their own ads which used to just be based on what is discussed here but now factors in your preferences. For instance I've been looking the past few days at Nike cross-training shoes for general workouts, and sure enough, a Nike ad appeared today for the shoes I'm looking at. Google's system is really quite genius. This happens every day around the web.
Oh and the matching khaki shirts, blech!
I understand everyone is wearing khaki, but a bodyguard usually wears plain clothes and stands by the door. He doesn't sit with the girlfriend and enjoy the show and wears what she's wearing. That's what a boyfriend is.
Admin. said: I've got a couple trusted insiders who say Steve is spending some weekends with Kate and others with his kids
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Thanks for replying. I am curious about "and others" in the above statement. Is it possible for you to comment further on this? Thanks so much.
I understand everyone is wearing khaki, but a bodyguard usually wears plain clothes and stands by the door.
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What does a road manager wear? Didn't she announce, in an interview, that he is now her road manager?
Is there a uniform of the day for a road manager? :)
I knew someone who had been keeping an affair quiet for about ten years. And he wasn't the most private person in the world.
His wife knew and their close circle knew, but that was it. I haven't seen him in ages, but I talked to someone last year who mentioned she ran into him and "the other woman." She does not know of the affair, I don't think. But from that I can assume that apparently, he is still with her.
There are people who keep affairs discreet and people who don't.
The public's access to the children's VOICES has been extremely limited. Think about it. We've only ever heard them speak on brief couch interviews and asked specific questions. Any blabbing about Steve could have been edited out.
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Kids talk at school. Things slip out. Don't you think that in two years SOMETHING would have been said to classmates, who in turn tell their parents, who in turn would tell someone else? Something like this would be extremely difficult to have been kept a secret for so long.
Moose, I think the school is very respectful of their privacy. They have been very discreet about almost everything. Leaking an affair about Kate I think most people think is harmful to the kids and in very bad taste.
And also, I don't think most parents give a crap who Kate chooses to be around. I would hope they worry more about their kids' schooling.
Plus, I DO have a few "insiders" telling me this is going on, for all I know they ARE parents or know parents. But how could they really prove it? They can't, only what they've been told.
Also, I have known many seven year olds in my day, and eleven year olds. I've never seen a kid that age interested in the relationships of their parents. It's sort of something that is going on but not at the front of their minds, not something they would want to talk about like adults would. Parents just sort of exist to kids of that age, a child still sees their parents as on the earth for them to love and help them. A kid doesn't quite process or at least dwell on at that age this is my mom and she is having a relationship with this guy. It's more of a passing thought if that, just like I think Ellen is. Ellen, a nice girl around dad a lot. I don't think a kid would typically process that as a "relationship."
What does a road manager wear? Didn't she announce, in an interview, that he is now her road manager?
Is there a uniform of the day for a road manager? :)
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I don't know, but I'm wiling to bet it's not a cute little khaki zoo keeper outfit that matches your girlfriend's!
I remember my friend once, I think sophomore year, I was over at her house a lot and it occurred to me I hadn't seen her dad in awhile. I asked where her dad was.
Oh, Dad moved, she told me. They got divorced.
I was like WHAT, WHEN.
A few years ago, she told me!
She wasn't keeping it a secret from anyone, it's just at that age we don't really TALK about our parents. No one asked. It wasn't at the front of anyone's minds to be talking about their parents in that way. We were more interested in the dance or in going to girl scouts or the big science project due.
The problem is Kate defines "set for life" far more differently than most other people would.
I don't care if they are together.. Kate, will one day have to answer to her kids... Utah trip? Huh.. Wow.. Uncle daddy Steve was there then!!
Kate made it known Jon was "hers" when she first met him..
I'm sure she thought Steve was more "manly" and she just had to have him.
If anything, Kate is predictable. She wants what she wants and gets it. Then she will suck the life out of it, when it's no longer useful or suits her. I think she saw Steve as someone who had power and money in the begining.. Kind of like Beths husband.. Kate wanted what her friend had. Money, looks, big house and so on... But most of all, a rich "smart" man.
Me.
Kate your back in the us go back home to your 8 kids.
Admin said: Also, I have known many seven year olds in my day, and eleven year olds. I've never seen a kid that age interested in the relationships of their parents. It's sort of something that is going on but not at the front of their minds, not something they would want to talk about like adults would.
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I totally understand and agree with what you are saying. BUT Kate (for some odd reason) has mentioned many times that the kids keep asking her when she is going to date or get married. Remember how Kate was going on and on about this. I have to believe that it is Kate that is bringing this subject up repeatedly to her children. But why? It is so wrong and confusing especially if she is secretly in love with a man that the kids know very well.
She'll probably announce he was right under her nose the whole time and she didn't even notice.
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Or maybe he was under something else the whole time and she still didn't notice!
chefsummer said...
Kate your back in the us go back home to your 8 kids.
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When did she get home?
You know the way she smiles at him reminds me of another couple, and I get why they are into each other. Our former mayor Rudy Guiliani and his current wife, Judy whatsherface was often photographed like that. He's a major narcissist and likes being "looked up to" and his actions supported and not questioned. He was married to a local reporter, a lovely woman named Donna Hanover before he started affair with this crazy wig. Her personality is "stick to your man like glue" and put him high up on a pedestal. Really gross and mushy PDA.
Other reason is that if she came out now about her relationship, she will blow up worse than the Kardashians wedding fiasco. And she will have to give up the name Gosselin. Kate Nield doesn't have a nice sound to it, does it.
Midnight Madness said... chefsummer said...
Kate your back in the us go back home to your 8 kids.
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When did she get home?
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IDk but if she did the extra interviw today which is in LA she had to get back recently
I suspect these kids are pretty well trained (threatened if you will) not to talk about their home life with strangers (anyone outside "the family" whatever she considers that at the time).
Think how many kids are horribly abused and no one knows until a kid either finally spills the beans or a teacher or someone eventually sees enough signs to get an investigation going and people really start digging into what is going on at home.
These kids are already kept so off balance by Kate and kept so rigidly controlled/isolated and they have probably been told for years that people have no business knowing what goes on in their home life (despite the obvious hypocrisy of their home life being filmed for the whole world) that they may not even think to really say anything to others.
If threatening them with "penalty of serverness" is enough to keep them out of her bedroom, it's probably enough to keep them from talking about their home life at school, too.
Just Me, I agree.
The vast majority of abuse is not reported by the child themselves but by someone who saw something or suspects something is up--teachers, relatives, etc.
What seems abnormal to us is often normal to kids and not anything that strikes them as something bad or weird that should be "disclosed."
I think the Extra interview, was done at the hotel in Chicago, before Kate left for Aussie, but only put on now. One of the other news ones, reported about Kate at coupon cabin, 2-3 days after, we already knew about it. Just like knowing about her audi, she bought it back in april and what we heard about it 4 months later. Or the stuff with the kids. It seems the media is sitting on Kate news, and the non-fans find out first. Like someone said here, Kate would not be back in the US unless she had a time machine(I'm sure Dr who, would not get near her with a 20ft pole). If that interview was on the 14th, how can she be in 2 places(wasn't the luncheon on the 14th?), unless they interviewed her in Aussie. I think maybe purseboy is playing mind games with us, thinking were stupid.
I see Kate is in twitter silence. Must be having a good time down under.
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/fp/Steve+Neild+Brings+Family+Kate+Gosselin+House+u3xWUN97os8l.jpg
There's a good side by side comparison of Kate and Gina.
Kate's look today is like an upgraded Gina. Like she's trying to one up her now.
If threatening them with "penalty of serverness" is enough to keep them out of her bedroom, it's probably enough to keep them from talking about their home life at school, too.
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One child, maybe. Eight kids, not so much. No matter how much they would be threatened to keep quiet, I would think that things are said in the spur of a moment, forgetting that they are under penalty of severness.
It's been said that Kate has no talent. If there's been an ongoing affair, she really has a talent for remaining quiet on this one, and keeping everyone guessing.
But how would kids this age even understand what an "affair" is? They don't understand this like we do, they are little kids.
Dad has Ellen and Mom has Steve and no one is acting like anything is wrong. If everyone acts like this is normal, a little kid probably isn't going to assume otherwise.
Steve's son should be old enough to know what goig on throgh doesn't he have teen's?. Perhaps that's why he's not with them they my not want to see him. It's just a guess though
No chance here in Australia of Kate making the news now - Barack Obama has just arrived in Canberra!
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No chance here in Australia of Kate making the news now - Barack Obama has just arrived in Canberra!
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Ha, no way! Foiled by Barack Obama again. He was also on the Today show the same day of Kate's mediocre comment and got top billing.
Oh chef I'm sure STEVE'S kids understand it but that's another matter.
I think it's way worse being the family "left behind" not the family you joined.
But how would kids this age even understand what an "affair" is? They don't understand this like we do, they are little kids.
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Eleven years olds don't understand what an affair is? The twins wouldn't know that something is going on between their mother and Uncle Steve?
Great Expectations, I don't know as much about the twins, but I think you can groom kids that an affair is normal.
Steve you have to remember has been around for years. Close to three years? Pushing four even? This has been the twins' normal for a very long time. Had he popped up out of nowhere last month and started having an affair with Kate they would probably be a lot more thrown off He has been a fixture for them though.
11 yr. olds would definitely understand. Don't think M & C aren't whispering up in their bedroom. I feel awful for those two. They've met, had meals with and played with the Neilds' kids and Steve's wife, Gina.
Great I read your comment again, of course I think the twins know something is going on IF something is going on. I'm just questioning whether this is something that they would leak at school like someone suggested.
It was proposed something isn't going on because it has never been leaked. Number one, it may have been leaked it's just people are being discreet, and number two, I suggested that these kids might not view this as something to "leak". Others suggested Kate's penalty of severeness is a nice deterrent!
Also IF they are having an affair that means Jon was right as you all said and we all know in. Kate mind that Jon is never ever right
Thanks for the Extra link, although I lasted less than a minute. I just can't stand her. BUT, that was enough to solve another little mystery! This Extra interview was indeed shot in a hotel - The Abraham Lincoln Hotel in Reading, PA that I posted about over a week ago.
Remember how I figured out from tweets what Khate's big day of "work" was on that Friday before she left for Chicago and Australia? I think it was Friday, 11/4. I had noticed that tweet from a new person with a photo attached? It was a pic of a restaurant sign and by looking at her Twitter I tracked it down. The woman is from Chicago and had tweeted about her brand new job at Coupon Cabin, which she had just started that Tuesday, 11/1. Then, that Friday morning, she tweeted a photo of a plane at Chicago Executive airport and said she was flying to PA for a quick business trip.
So, late in the afternoon, when she tweeted that photo of a restaurant sign to Khate, I just Googled the name of the restaurant and PA and found out that it was the Abraham Lincoln Hotel in Reading, PA. So that was Khate's big day of "work", a lunch meeting with the brand new Coupon Cabin employee.
But, just now as soon as I saw the posts with the Extra clip and someone mentioned that it looks like the interview was done in a hotel, I just knew it had to be that one. So, yes, the Extra interview was done on that same Friday at the hotel in Reading - compare the chairs in the Extra interview to the chairs in the lobby (note the curved wooden arms) in Photo 3. You can also see the piano behind them in the interview and in the hotel's lobby photo:
The Abrahma Lincoln Hotel (Wyndham) - scroll to Photo 3
Direct link to Lobby Photo
Extra interview
Side by side photos - Extra shot and hotel lobby photo - click to enlarge
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So, Khate's new gig didn't get her car service and a hotel in NYC to do a "press tour". Instead she had to go to a hotel in Reading, PA to meet the Extra correspondent (not even a main host). Plus, it's funny how she had to have a brand new employee of Coupon Cabin fly out from Chicago to babysit her and hold her hand for the interview. LOL.
I feel so bad for Gina. At one time Gina and Kate were sociable. Sorry, I don't know how to make it clickable.
http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Gina+Neild/Steve+Neild+Brings+Family+Kate+Gosselin+House/9bbemeupgMc
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I feel so bad for Gina. At one time Gina and Kate were sociable. Sorry, I don't know how to make it clickable.
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My days of feeling sorry for Gina ended long ago. She has ignored the obvious for years, for reasons we can only guess out. Out of respect to herself and her kids, she should have tossed his cheating ass long ago.
Remember when she was gone all the time and nannies were basically taking care of the kids full time. The kids came walking down the stairs to go their birthday party at the park impeccably dressed their hair tightly (to me) braided like they were being debuted to their mother for her approval. She clearly approved as there was a moment of silence while she stood watching the presentation. Their little sweaters with one button closed on top, they looked like they were going to meet the president (instead of a birthday party at the park with balloon jumpers). It was just kind of a surreal moment that I will always remember.
That is the way she had envisioned it to be always that her kids be presented to her on command fully coifed and ready to perform with a virtual Army behind the effort while she flitted about instructing everyone.
That was also when she debuted her new flare for designer clothing. It was freezing at the park and she yelled for someone (one of the many helpers) to bring her black jacket. It was a flimsy little high fashion silk finish designer coat and she was still freezing. She looked ridiculous but flying high. That was also the time of another surreal moment when she was standing there in that stupid jacket instructing all the moms with a candle in her hand and she actually stuck it up to her mouth like a microphone. She tried to laugh it off like it was a joke - but no that was KT in her element. That was the turning point to me (or one of them) the beginning of the demise of the show, when you got a true sense of how it was going to be on her watch.
I don't think she for one moment envisioned herself being the primary caretaker for the kids. She had never, ever done it before but it is clear that she is indeed doing it now and a lousy job of it as well.
I think Terri Irwin & Kate should start their own Mom's Exploits the kids Club:
The Tacky Khaki Hell on Heels Club: Members MUST exploit their children. They MUST wear khaki OR high heels & when wearing heels, it has to look like you have something stuck up your ass while walking in them.
Founding members are Kate & Terri Irwin & they make the rules, est. 2010.
Rule 1) It doesn't matter how much your kids complain, THEY will be the sole breadwinners, & you, as their MOM, will skim off the top.
Rule 2) Lies are a must. Deception is a must. Contradictions are a must. Believe your own crap.
Rule 3) Moms-your sh*t don't stink. We OWN these kids & we own their asses until their 18. We can make them do anything. 11 projects in the works? OK! Disney Princess? OK! Veterinarian? Whatever lie works that day!
Rule 4) It helps to be blond, divorced, separated, widowed, etc, that way, no man can get in the way of telling us how to raise the children, or in the Club, as we call them...The Merch.
More rules to come...xoxo K8 & T2
~HC~
Sorry for the OT rant but I am still burning about Hannah having to wear Mady's pants to school. Thanks to the poster who noticed that as I had not, but I am sure all the other kids at school did. What a fluke. She and Steve deserve one another. He acted like a spoiled brat over the stupid one slice of pizza. I think it is same to assume there was no Kraft services on that trip, boy did they do a number on her (thank you TLC).
Hippie Chick, your post upthread is SPOT ON. Call those B*tche$ out. I hate them BOTH. They are BOTH $CUM.
I have long thought there was something personal going on between Steve and Kate, but I do find it suspicious that no one has leaked a word about it. I would think that all the staff who have come and gone from Kate's life, or Ashley, or the pool man, or someone from the Neild's circle of friends/family, or...ALL those paps who follow them ALL the time, wouldn't have said something. But wouldn't it be amusing if after all the things that have been said about Jon and his dalliances early in their separation, it was actually Kate who had set about to steal another woman's husband? Sure wouldn't fit very well with her "poor me", "you don't know what I've been through" persona.
Wow, NLAN, nice research! I think you are 100% correct. I can't bring myself to watch the clip, but did she talk much about CC? Or was it the usual mememe? If it was arranged by CC and she barely mentioned the new job, well, then, they've just gotten their first taste of Katie Kreider and her inability to sell anything but herself.
While it is curious that the interview took a while to air, it wouldn't be the first time. After all, this is not really "news," it's a story with some shelf life.
As for speculation about a talk show, I guess anything is possible. But WHO would work with her? And WHO would watch? She has proven over and over again in all live formats that she is not an "off-the-cuff" speaker. She DOES need a script. When she is taped, she is somewhat better, but there's no telling how much tape had to roll before they got enough to make her look presentable.
I seriously cannot imagine this coming to pass, but hey, I've been wrong before.
But wouldn't it be amusing if after all the things that have been said about Jon and his dalliances early in their separation, it was actually Kate who had set about to steal another woman's husband?
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The similarities to Jon's earlier behavior's and Kate's current life are striking.
Jon was the Ed Hardy-wearing douchebag, while Kate now is known for dressing like a street walker. No public outcry.
Jon got an apartment in NYC and traveled overseas for self-promotion, while Kate has now spent more time in NYC, away from PA and the kids, for shits and giggles and softball media interviews. Oh, remember when Jon also was doing the interviews in NYC? Bad Jon! Not bad Kate because mom's need to look good and have fun too!
Jon got a sporty little $$ car and he was lambasted. Kate bought her Audi and good for her! Not to mention that we've never heard of Jon speeding or otherwise incurring traffic violations.
Jon traveled to France with Hailey to ostensibly garner some type of gig with the Ed Hardy guy, and he was vilified. Kate is on the other side of the world with her "road manager" so she can get back to AU and be the center of attention and she gets no flack for leaving her kids, while in school, for what's going to be weeks now. 2 weeks, I'm guessing. Only to be followed up with another get away to LV, that there's no real reason for other than it's an excuse to travel and live the high life.
The double standard is sickening.
Didn't one of the camera men ask Steve if he'd go camping with the family again, and Steve said, "ask me again in six months."
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Steve saying he wouldn't go "camping with the family" could translate to "I'd go with Kate alone, yes, but not with this bunch of whining children and these catty helpers. And Kate and I stay in 5-star hotels because she HATES RVs and camping."
That press interview in the Reading, PA hotel was awful. I'm assuming it was arranged by Coupon Cabin, and here's Kate opining about her desire to have a talk show. I'd be so fricking pissed if I were her CC gal.
And Kate's going on and on about all of "her" recipes and anyone else's recipes that she cooks? Well, of course, she's "perfected" them.
What an ego.
I've seen nothing original or refined in all the years she's displayed her cooking skills. Her food looks serviceable.
Anderson Cooper on Pizza-Gate. Hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/user/gosselinarchives?blend=18&ob=5#p/u/6/sPW2j_hxgHk
(sorry, no idea how to make it clickable.)
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Oh and the matching khaki shirts, blech!
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Oh, yeah! I forgot the matching outfits they always wear. How cutesy. Double blech!
Yes, Kate has her own "signature" dishes for Thanksgiving. Isn't she awesome? Oh, what's that? You actually want to know what signature dishes she perfected for this fabulous food holiday? Oh, well, stuffing, candied yams, and green bean casserole. Um, of course, they are all original. She took something like greenbean casserole, a staple at millions of Thanksgiving tables every year, and "perfected" it. Just like she is able to cook the stuffing IN the turkey because she does it well. And it is amazing that she is able to spend "two full days" in the kitchen cooking while taking care of eight kids, the house, and now a website and coupon blog. All while Twittering.
And she tops it off with "yuck pie" which her grandfather came up with, but she really made it something. She's my role model.
Oh, and the Extra interview was HIGHLY edited, wonder why?
I don't want to put my usual screen name for this one because even NOW it embarrasses me. My mom and dad were divorced early and had many rocky relationships in between--one illiterate, toothless drinker for my mom, one bitchy money-hungry shrew who moved in with my dad and got pregnant by someone else during that time--passing the baby off as his. There were other men and women, too, and much bizarreness.
Did my friends know about the divorce? Only when they asked where my dad was. Did I EVER talk about the relationships? No way! When you're a child, you don't want to brag about it or even remember it. You keep it quiet. My brother and I would have those whispered conversations someone mentioned above. That was it. It was a humiliating situation when all we wanted was a mom and dad together "like everyone else."
I for one am right with the kids. I wouldn't talk about it. I DIDN'T talk about it--at all.
I think Kate and Steve are about as real as Kim Kardashian's marriage was. In other words, it could be just a ruse to make people think their an item to get more attention for Kate.
Then again, if it came out they were involved it wouldn't surprise me either. I'm so on the fence about whether these two are involved.
Oops, meant to say "they're an item" not "their". My bad.
Why would Kate let the kids help her make TG dinner it might get messy but it's a good way to bond. I cook wirh my mom. Oh yeah i am talking about Katw.
Thanks Mama K for the link. I hadn't seen that clip. Thank you, I am much calmer now after having been livid about Hannah's pants. Leave it to AC to bring it all back home again. She was absolutely frantic over that dumb pizza. Steve must really be picky about his food and capable of kicking up quite a big fuss in private of course. Who in the hell eats salads on a frickin RV trip in the middle of the Mohave desert and what poor kids in America have to eat salad while the man of the house eats the last slice of pizza and sells out the kid who handed it to him. Just when I think she is not providing her 90% with enough material she gives back to us ten fold.
If Steve is living there that could be why Jon can not enter the property ep. If the bodyguard is all ways there.
I just saw that Extra interview. Ugh. She came off so arrogant and haughty.
A little OT: Hi Hippiechic (waves). Check your inbox!! :)
Kate admitted in her interview that she never used Coupon Cabin before they called her. She claimed she never even HEARD OF Coupon Cabin. That's who they choose for a spokesperson?
If she wasn't even aware Coupon Cabin existed then that means she wasn't using online coupons all these years so how coupon conscientious was she really? What a poor choice for a coupon spokesperson and blogger.
In the interview Kate also claimed that her main "thing right now" is Twitter and her website and networking with other moms. That's not a career! How does that help her fully support her family financially?
Why in the hell do you think he introduced her to his parents in New Zealand! That was the giveaway. I could not believe Gina and the boys did not go. They have been discreet. Why? Because TLC would have pitched a fit for her brand as a single mom to be destroyed and that branding continues. No one likes a homewrecker. And I seriously doubt Steve would marry her. I don't think he is in to the 8, just their hookerish mother. I always figured Jon had it right. A spouse can sense these things
I agree with a lot of people here who wonder what Steve could possibly see in Kate. There have been times that Kate has shown that she can be a very pleasant person when she wants to be. Perhaps that is how she is with Steve. On the other hand, maybe Steve is into being dominated and gets his kicks from a woman like Kate in and out of the bedroom. I'm sure Kate would make the perfect Dominatrix. Oh gross, I might have just made myself get sick with this comment.
Re: the Extra interview--granted, I'm tired, but I literally dozed off watching that. It's like she's trying to be the most boring person on the planet.
And don't worry, she'll never have her own talk show. She's dull, unfunny, completely lacking in personality or wit, and she can't string two words together.
You know that is strange about CC (refuse to use their name) but I am always looking for coupons on line and their name has never popped up when doing my searches.
Where is the how to flub up TG dinner material? Is that on her web site?
I tried to watch the Extra interview and could not do it in one sitting. I cannot believe that she thinks she could possibly get a talk show. First of all, she cannot even look at the interviewer for any amount of time before she either looks up or away. She wrings her hands. She has NO inflection in her voice. The whole interview made me cringe!
TLC stinks said... Why in the hell do you think he introduced her to his parents in New Zealand! That was the giveaway. I could not believe Gina and the boys did not go. They have been discreet. Why? Because TLC would have pitched a fit for her brand as a single mom to be destroyed and that branding continues. No one likes a homewrecker. And I seriously doubt Steve would marry her. I don't think he is in to the 8, just their hookerish mother. I always figured Jon had it right. A spouse can sense these things.
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You nailed it right on the head. Steve is totally not into those kids at all. You can tell from photos that he is very distant, almost dismissive of them.
Again, I agree with you, if there is something going on (which I'm not completely convinced there is)he would never marry Kate. She got Jon to marry her through manipulation. I'm not so sure she'd be able to manipulate Steve the same way. I mean Jon was very young and immature and and easy target when she got her claws into him and Steve is more mature and probably is on to her games.
Anderson Cooper said it all. He was one of the first journalists to basically be like "Wtf!" when it came to Kate.
Stewmamma the term "foot fetish" comes to my mind (foot licking/hooker heels); yuck, now I am sick! I need a hospital basin throw up bucket - you know the one kids are able to use independently.
Kate all so said SHE wants some one to take care of HER snd the kids.Hmmm guess her maybe lover steve isn't down with that or he can't do it.
She has NO inflection in her voice. The whole interview made me cringe!
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House of Bruce. Well, not normal inflection. She did the uptalk/question thing a whole bunch and said "like" quite a few times.
This was one of Kate's worst deliveries, not in terms of being nervous (which we've seen) but in terms of composure and ability to articulate her talking points. I got the sense that she didn't have a clue what she was going to write about for her TG blog entry. Cobbling it together at the last moment is not going to cut it.
Hippie Chick said...
Rule 4) It helps to be blond, divorced, separated, widowed, etc, that way, no man can get in the way of telling us how to raise the children, or in the Club, as we call them...The Merch.
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What an insensitive remark. Yes, I'm sure Terri Irwin celebrated her husband's death as it meant she could raise her children as she pleased.
One thing I can give to Kate in the extra interview is that she didn't say ummm a hundred time.
Wow, it was just snark!
I didn't see anyone suggest Terri Irwin celebrate Steve's death anyway. If anything she was probably terrified about how this was all going to continue--she got very lucky that Bindi took over. I thought it was in reference to the fact that TERRI isn't dating anyone EITHER, move out the way, men.
@ Tucker's Mom, her voice is just so blah. I am sure that her TG blog will be about how she slaves away in her kitchen making green bean casserole with cream of celery instead of mushroom. That would make it HER recipe and a complete original. If I had 8 kids I would let them help with everything. Just think how fast all of that cooking would get done.
My daughter, who is 5, helps me cook everyday. She loves to bake and we have had brownie batter all over the place. There is no way I would tape garbage bags on my counters and make her get down on her hands and knees to clean up sugar. I stick by the quote "children won't remember what you said, but how you made them feel". I feel so sorry for those 8 kids.
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Wow, it was just snark!
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Snark can be insensitive and mean-spirited, which this was. I don't happen to believe that couching something as snark should give people free reign to be nasty without being called on it.
Ok, lucky me, I tryed to watch that interview and lucky me, I hit the buffers, it took too long to download, I got like 2 words. So, I know I'm asking a lot. What BS did Kate say?
Oh, more twitter silence!
You know what drives me batty when Kate does and interview?
The way she wobbles her head like a black chick does when she's pissed off. You know, the ole, "Don't you put your hands in my face!" kind of head wobble. Only black chicks can pull this off. When white girls do it, it looks low class.
I will be the first to admit I come for a little snark, but let's be tasteful please.
And I am also starting to think that the relationship beween K8 & Steve may be more than professional, but it is still very odd and a bit creepy. Perhaps he is dividing his weekends, and yes, she does seem to either twitter like mad or be dead silent. I still can't believe he is not being paid for all these travels and I also think he controls the relationship, accounting for her bizarre mood swings. Doubt his wife, or probably ex-wife, cares much one way or the other by now.
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I watched Quints by Surprise last night, until I couldn't take it anymore.
Does anyone else think the dad is sort of weird? I sense a strange vibe between the parents - can't put my finger on it, but they seem sort of strange, scripted, something....
I had a feeling as I watched that they won't be together forever.
And bless their little hearts, those kids sure cry and scream a lot. It seemed like TLC kept setting up the script to get max chaos.
The dad kept wanting private time to watch football on TV, actually left the group to go downstairs by himself, leaving care of quints+1 to mom all alone. Odd...
And who in the hell takes 18 month old quints+1 to tailgate and to a football game????!!! Asking for trouble much?
I've only seen this one episode (partial) but sure didn't get a good vibe..........
Gosselin, Part Deux?
ON THE OTHER HAND, I had just watched the Duggars in Europe and those kids were so sweet and caring to each other - and Michelle and JimBob sure are loving and respectful toward each other. Regardless of how you feel about the Duggars, they ARE respectful and caring about each other! No histronics or mememe drama...
Snark can be insensitive and mean-spirited, which this was. I don't happen to believe that couching something as snark should give people free reign to be nasty without being called on it.
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Kate? Is that you? Free reign or rein? :)
...Or free range? Are you sure? Which is it?
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And Kate's going on and on about all of "her" recipes and anyone else's recipes that she cooks? Well, of course, she's "perfected" them.
What an ego.
I've seen nothing original or refined in all the years she's displayed her cooking skills. Her food looks serviceable.
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Serviceable at best. I've found, through the years, that people who do not enjoy eating make horrible cooks. Generally speaking, the food is "stick to the recipe", fat filled bland concoctions that I find unappealing. Looking at Katie's published "perfections", it doesn't seem that what she advocates as good food is what she eats. That is usually the tip off, to me, to be wary about the content.
"A little OT ---
I watched Quints by Surprise last night, until I couldn't take it anymore.
Does anyone else think the dad is sort of weird? I sense a strange vibe between the parents - can't put my finger on it, but they seem sort of strange, scripted, something...."
Those quints are 34 months old..too old for sippy cups and diapers. The father isn't related to them..sperm donor was used, so maybe he doesn't connect all that well with them?
The mother is "Kate light."
Tucker's Mom said... She has NO inflection in her voice. The whole interview made me cringe!
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House of Bruce. Well, not normal inflection. She did the uptalk/question thing a whole bunch and said "like" quite a few times.
This was one of Kate's worst deliveries, not in terms of being nervous (which we've seen) but in terms of composure and ability to articulate her talking points. I got the sense that she didn't have a clue what she was going to write about for her TG blog entry. Cobbling it together at the last moment is not going to cut it.
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Using "like" for every other word is a filler and used by teenie boppers or Kardashians or college-age kids because it's become the in-thing to do...all it denotes to me is being inarticulate and uneducated, and it's even worse than her continual "umm's."
You nailed it right on the head. Steve is totally not into those kids at all. You can tell from photos that he is very distant, almost dismissive of them.
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You can tell that from photos and the few times we've seen him interact with them on television? If he had been warm and affectionate, touchy-feely, showing a close relationship with them, then viewers would be saying that a bodyguard has no business doing that and it's just plain creepy.
Dallas Lady said... Re: the Extra interview--granted, I'm tired, but I literally dozed off watching that. It's like she's trying to be the most boring person on the planet.
And don't worry, she'll never have her own talk show. She's dull, unfunny, completely lacking in personality or wit, and she can't string two words together.
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Maybe she can host a late night creature feature t.v. show on public access.
Afterall, being a blood-sucking/life sucking harpy/pariah comes naturally to her. Being the new "Vampira" would fit her well.
Those quints are 34 months old..too old for sippy cups and diapers.
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Kids are potty-trained between two and three. Not all kids are completely potty trained by 34 months. Three years old is usually around the time to give up the cup. There's still time.
Sherry Baby. I so agree. Those kids are craving affection. You never see pics of Kate hugging them. There was one of Steve with one of the kids hugging his legs and he looked like a statue. I saw a picture a while back with Ellen carrying one of the kids and the others were all flocked around her. They all looked so happy. I am just hoping that they get the love, understanding and affection they need when they are with Jon. They obviously don't when they are with their mom and her "bodyguard".
New York State of Mind said...
"Kate? Is that you?"
No.
"Free reign or rein? :)"
I don't feel like debating "free reign" vs. "free rein." Some feel "free reign" is acceptable, many do not.
"...Or free range? Are you sure? Which is it?"
Oh, the hilarity. How will I ever compete with such comedic genius? I'm too "chicken" to try.
I would love to stick around to answer more of your scintillating questions, but I have meetings to attend.
Winsomeone,
34 months old??? Wow, I sure had their ages wrong...
Something about that couple/family just seems off. Can't put my finger on it. And it seems TLC's 'direction' of everyday events filming is majorly scripted. Thanks to kart, we as viewers have become good at identifying 'scripted' vs 'real reality'............ LOL.
Did notice that TLC used their sad refrain "Had our first child, then wanted just one more" - that's got to be getting old by now.
Unless any of those kids are identical, that doc inserted at least 5 fertilized embryos.
I have no problem with HOM UNLESS the doc deliberately inserts so many eggs, ie Octomom, and as long as the kids aren't exploited.
Again, I point to the McCaugheys and Dilleys as two HOM families who are doing it right, not exploiting their kids and seem to be raising 'normal' kids.
(normal = NOT entitled or exploited).
Hi Admin.
I just thought of this clip,when the tups were sitting in the rv eating on that last road trip.The tup wanted something and asked for it, can't remember what. I think Jaime's son said there were no servants here and he quipped back'" we do too, Steve." This is how they think of him? Strange......
I was particularly bothered by what I assume was TLCs idea: let's get all 5 kids bikes and take them out to a cul-de-sac and let them ride.
Um........ how about a really stupid idea - set them all up for failure and frustration AND THEN FILM IT.
Geez louise - anyone with half a brain would take one kid out at a time so they could help them, not turn them all loose with bikes they don't have the coordination to ride. What kind of parent would agree to such a baby clusterf*ck? REally!! Why wouldn't you want the kids to succeed and build their self-esteem?
I just bet the producers were chortling - "hey, yeah wait til you see them all fall on their faces and cry.... it's hilarious - great script idea guys!"
I get the feeling that the gosselin kids grew up and TLC wanted cute babies so they glommed onto the quints.
Pathetic. I'm sorry I stuck around on that show after surfing by.
I see history repeating itself.
Afterall, being a blood-sucking/life sucking harpy/pariah comes naturally to her. Being the new "Vampira" would fit her well.
Vampira was cool, and funny. Kate will never be another Vampire. ;)
If Khate believes she'll get a talk show, she needs to think again. It was so evident that the Extra interview was edited in multiple places, as someone mentioned above.
I'd not witnessed Khate being so very full of herself. The interview is a true example of how "me, me, me" and "I, I, I' that woman is.
What's with the ongoing hand movements and the continual movement of her eyes ~ up, down, back, forth? The whole interview was like something done by preteens, with preteens, and for preteens.
New York State of Mind - he/she doesn't have to be Kate just because he/she criticized the Admin. I too found the remark rather in poor taste.
I volunteer for Project Cornerstone (http://www.projectcornerstone.org/) and one of our goals is to teach children to be UPstanders rather than bystanders. One of the books we recently read with the kids was called "Just Kidding" (http://www.amazon.com/Just-Kidding-Trudy-Ludwig/dp/1582461635).
It discusses how one boy bullies the protagonist and then tries to brush it off with "I was just kidding".
Many of you will disagree with me and that's fine. However, I believe you should say what you mean and mean what you say. We also need to take responsibility for what comes out of our mouths because we all say careless and unkind words at one time or the other.
By saying "It was just a snark!" implies to me, Admin, that on some level you realize that it was perhaps not in the best taste. I apologize if you feel that I'm adding fuel to a potential flame war. That isn't my intention. I enjoy your blog very much and I don't usually see you try and dismiss your actions like this, so it took me by surprise a bit.
And then to have someone begin the "You said something critical, you must be a sheeple or Kate (or conversely, a hater or Jon/Ellen)" retort again was just frustrating. It's really the only thing I find irritating about the Gosselin blogosphere and it gets my goat, even though I know I should just ignore it.
Steve is the male version of Kate. Both wannabe stars and grifters. I think he thought if he hooked himself to Kate's star he'd rise faster. Instead they are both falling .. and with that extra added weight .. falling fast. They'd better think of a new scheme QUICKLY.
Permanent Name, I too caught Quints by Surprise last night (by accident, I was looking for The Little Couple). I felt the same way you did about the dad. He comes across as not wanting to be bothered with these kids then at the end of the episode went on and on about how much his kids’ happiness means to him. He made me a bit uncomfortable. I understand they’re not his biological children though. Do you think that makes a difference?
The mom, on the other hand, truly loves being a mom and playing with those kids. I never saw one hint of stress on her part; just joy.
Something about that couple/family just seems off. Can't put my finger on it. And it seems TLC's 'direction' of everyday events filming is majorly scripted. Thanks to kart, we as viewers have become good at identifying 'scripted' vs 'real reality'............ LOL.
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I agree. I only watched one show, when the little ones had escaped through the basement door. Nobody was watching them, but the camera crew was filming. The father was surprised to see them and said something like, "How did you get out here?" At the time I thought...how could you not know where your kids are. They were tiny toddlers then, had just learned to walk.
On the topic of “like, um, uh” I was just reading an article “The seven don’ts during a job interview” and that was a biggie. Candidates who used that kind of (they called it “street talk”) were a big turn off. If you consider that every TV appearance Kate makes is like a job interview, she is um, like, blowing it big time.
New York State of Mind - he/she doesn't have to be Kate just because he/she criticized the Admin. I too found the remark rather in poor taste.
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I didn't make any remark on the comment, whether it was snark or not, or if it was in poor taste. My comment was snark on Kate's free reign, rein, range!
The remarks re: Kate and her body guard over at Radar are all negative. No one is stupid and they are tired of being hoodwinked by the likes of Kate.
I, too, caught some of the Quints show. It will not last. Boring and there did appear to be a strange vibe between the parents. Is the Dad on that show the bio dad to the eldest child? It's all quite a repeat of J&K plus 8 down to the screaming/crying kids, etc. I agree with the "Kate light" comment. Spot on.
Wow said, "I would love to stick around to answer more of your scintillating questions, but I have meetings to attend."
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Oh, that we all were able to come to a meeting of the mind.
How about a titillating question? Could you answer one of those?
Stewmama said...
I agree with a lot of people here who wonder what Steve could possibly see in Kate. There have been times that Kate has shown that she can be a very pleasant person when she wants to be. Perhaps that is how she is with Steve. On the other hand, maybe Steve is into being dominated.
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I got the notion that Stevie boy is the dominant partner in that relationship. Remember how Kate truly freaked out about that piece of pizza. She was almost panicked at the thought she may have to tell Stevie the pizza was gone.
I, too, agree that Steve just isn't into those adorable kids. He seems to be a very cold individual.
Permanent name,
I caught some of that quints show too, much like 'gosselin extra-light'to me. The dad is complaining too much about the football game he's missing and the mom is loving and enjoying the time with kids.
The kids are calmer and both parents are better parents than Jon and Kate portrayed on their show, but something is missing.The dad just doesn't come off as emotionally invested,maybe as the kids are not biologically his?
Their show may be normal and we are used to the abusive aspects of the Gosselins, so it feels wrong, who knows? I can see TLC starting to script in the same things seen on Jon and Kate. This show kinda comes off as boring ,due to lack of drama and noise level.
Something that ticks me off whenever I see it: the "apologists for Kate" on Twitter. When she's not tweeting directly to Kate, the one known as miloandjack takes it upon herself to make excuses and explanations for Kate. Today, in response to the story about Jon having the kids (which has already been debunked), miloandjack takes to Twitter to pooh-pooh the idea, in part using this comment:
miloandjack
XXXXXXXX @kateplusmy8 Sorta doubt that Jon had kids the whole time...Kate tweeted that she prepared meals ahead of time 4 kids @home?
Now the fact of the matter is, Kate tweeted NO SUCH THING about having prepared meals ahead for the kids. NOT ONCE. (Her Twitter feed for the last 10 days is so short, you can review it in under 2 minutes.) So who is this person, and why does she feel the need to put "politically correct" (i.e., what she interprets as "supermom"-like) comments such as this out there IN LIEU OF her idol Kate's own comments? What is it Milo, did Kate "just forget" to say this? Is she just "too busy" to say it? But you are sure it's true, so YOU'll say it?
You know, the sheeple go on and on about made-up rumors, but they are at least as bad as the tabs and non-fans in terms of imputing things to Kate that she never said or did. Who put miloandjack in charge of maintaining/promoting/INVENTING Kate's image?
The sycophancy is stifling and does little to help Kate's public face, though it does promote the image of her "fans" as stubbornly and purposefully delusional. Let her speak for herself, Milo, her native language is English and I don't believe she needs an interpreter.
Oh and here's the follow-up comment by an equally delusional sheeple:
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@Kateplusmy8 so sweet of u 2make sure the kids had nourishing meals while u were gone-so much better than junk food! I bet ALL enjoyed!
It's . . . just . . . NOT . . . true.
Thanks for the link upthread for the E! interview. I just watched it.
Let's see, what can I say? Hmmmmmmm.... well, I could say.......... um.....no, I couldn't say that......... ok, let's really think here..... ok, well there's this: she's a really, honestly, truly poor speaker! (read that with an upspeak at the end?)
Geez, she's bad. And arrogant. And highly edited. And wiggly. And has roaming eyes, which make me think she's lying - hmmmmmm.
The interviewer didn't seem into her at all. He was just reading down a list of questions.
All in all, BAD!
Good lucky honey if you think you'll ever get a talk show......
Just about the only thing left for her to do is come out with the "We fell in love" shit - Maybe, just maybe she could get some mileage out of that for a little bit...
Kate did tweet this to mumbear9, who was in Australia when Kate was there commiserating with mumbear9 and saying what she does in preparation for leaving on a trip:
Kateplusmy8
@mumbear9 I can't the feeling.. I plan fun stuff& cook mommy food 4 mine.can't wait 2b home again and want 2 know they r happy while away!:)
Seems to me Kate said she cooked meals for 2 wks. for the road trip, making a big deal of loading all that cooked food on to the RV.So, where was it when they had to order pizza for lunch? Kate could have warmed up a whole lunch for Steve from that stash, ha ha.
Now, she could have left meals for when she went to Australia for Jon to warm up.Raise your hands if we think she did? Didn't think so, but the sheeple will make it up for Kate to try and make her look good. 'There are none so blind, as those that will not see.'Sorry, that just came to my mind, forget who and where it was said.
I wonder when Kate asked Jon to look after the kids? I can't see her being nice to him, probably killed her to leave them with him at all and maybe asked the day before? Do we know for sure he is there or has them at his place?
Miloandjack also goes by "FiredUp4Kate" and truly believes she and Kate are good friends. She's beyond scary and I wouldn't let her have communication with my pet hamster.
Jon did NOT have the kids this week.
HollyBaby was wrong.
Why would Steve leave his meal ticket I wouldn't
Bonnie Fuller has been hard on Kate recently, and rightly so. I'll bet Kate's PR person, told Bonnie Jon had the kids so as to make it seem Kate was acting like a good Mom and letting their Dad have time with them. Jon set her straight. Bonnie reallyneeds new sources.
Kate doesn't rate said... Kate did tweet this to mumbear9, who was in Australia when Kate was there commiserating with mumbear9 and saying what she does in preparation for leaving on a trip:
Kateplusmy8
@mumbear9 I can't the feeling.. I plan fun stuff& cook mommy food 4 mine.can't wait 2b home again and want 2 know they r happy while away!:)
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Then, why don't you try calling them, you miserable BITCH.
Kate didn't even call her kids when she was gone? Do we know this for sure?
My guess is Kate is the one who "leaked" that Jon had the kids, because it makes her look better. If she's going to ditch the kids to leave the country to go play celebrity and chase fame, then it looks better that the kids are with their dad rather than a random teenaged babysitter in order for her to do it.
Glad Jon set that record straight. Kate has zero qualms about leaving the country and handing her kids over to the nanny of the month. Nope. As long as she gets her ego stroked somewhere else, the kids can be boarded in a dog kennel if that's what it took.
@Kate doesn't rate...Kate has said repeatedly she does not call the kids while away...and, if she did, she wouldn't have to wait to be home to know they were happy while she was gone. She's.A.Fraud.
@House of Bruce -- If Kate publishes a recipe for green bean casserole using cream of celery soup instead of cream of mushroom soup, claiming it as HER innovation, I'm going to cry PLAGERISM! I've been making green bean casserole with cream of celery soup for 30+ years, because I'm allergic to mushrooms (sometimes I use cream of onion soup, but that's very hard to find).
Why do people continually pick on Jon and call him a douche bag for wearing Ed Hardy shirts? It was a JOB! Product placement. Ed Hardy sent him a box of shirts to wear on the show. This was widely reported at the time.
IMO, the expression on Kate's face in the pix for this thread says it all. Did she ever look at Jon like that? Even at the time she was supposedly head over heels in love with him? I've always felt that they were a couple. Now I'm convinced of it.
readerlady
A picture is worth a thousand "...ums".
This picture says it all.
In the quints by surprise bio, it says all 6 children are from the same sperm donor. I don't know about you, but if it were me, I don't think I would feel the need to share that with anyone in the public. Wonder what the father is considered to be, legally? He's not the bio dad, not a step dad..would he need to adopt them, or do they sign something before the procedure, that says he will legally be heir father if any are born?
Kate and Steve are just now leaving the Airport. Go to RadarOnline.
Radar has a pic of Kate and Purseboy leaving Oz:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/11/kate-gosselin-bodyguard-leave-australia-photos-brisbane-airport
Who's wants to be Kate is headed to new york like she all ways does.
My, Steve's looking a little.....different these days.
I think Khate and Stevie only take an additional couple days all alone when they come back from a trip with the kids and the TLC film crew. She's been all alone with him for about 9 days by now.
Does anyone remember when she was talking to the caterer for the tups last birthday party. She told him that she wanted sandwiches for the kids with peanut butter and marshmallow fluff. The way she said it to him made me think that she wanted him to be impressed that she had come up with a new concoction. When he casually said, "oh, okay, you want fluff 'n nutters" she actually said, "there's a name for them?". Is she playing stupid or is she really that stupid????
She better be planning to check all that baggage. Doesn't look like it though, if Steve only has what looks like a rolling computer bag or a small carry on. I fly a lot and it burns my biscuits that people carry on wayyyyyy more than is allowed. Overseas though, they will call you on it, most of the time. For the sheeple who will say that it's different in first class, it isn't. My husband's company pays for him to fly first class and occasionally I get bumped up too. 1 carry-on and 1 small personal item. Period. Radar can't get anything right - jeans? Yeah, black spandex legging jeans! With nothing covering up her cookie or her booty - again!
Who put miloandjack in charge of maintaining/promoting/INVENTING Kate's image?
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Miloandjack put miloandjack in charge of Kate. She's certifiable. No ifs, ands, or buts (except maybe Sheeple butts)...
No snark. She really is off the wall crazy.
House of Bruce- No - she is really that stupid. She mimics other real moms and then acts surprised that any other mother could possibly think of this! Pure Katerism.....
There is no way I would let my husband galavant around the world with another woman. No way, no how!!! Bodyguard my ass! And Steve, lose the sweater, you look lilke a tool!
I, too, agree that Steve just isn't into those adorable kids. He seems to be a very cold individual.
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Don't let appearances be deceiving. Some of those can be real fire in the bedroom! :)
Bah Bah Black Sheep said...
Miloandjack put miloandjack in charge of Kate. She's certifiable. No ifs, ands, or buts (except maybe Sheeple butts)...
No snark. She really is off the wall crazy.
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I just want to know why she never uses that "g" on her keyboard.
She can't possibly be as backwoods as she tries to make herself sound. Does she write that way on blogs too or was it just a way of getting Kate's attention on Twitter?
House of Bruce- They are both tools which explains why people post on this blog. What did the kids stand to gain from this experience? Nada, It was all about what is best for Kate in every situation.
Appreciate your indignation, most of us are completely fed up with Kate's selfish antics, claiming to be a super mom, while hiring babysitters, when she is home, and traveling as much as she can on the kids's dime, while claiming she is broke. Can't have it both ways! It is all about Kate!
@Gosselin 8 come first, I have been irked by Kate for a long time! I just haven't posted because I honestly couldn't figure out how to do it. Um, like I figured out to like use my google account. LOL
I was only able to watch the first bit of the interview, my computer knew it would make me sick, so it refused to play it :) But Did anyone esle notice that Kate's forehead isn't moving much?! And she raises her eyebrows a lot. I know in a recent interview she did state that she wasn't opposed to paltsic surgery if it helped you to feel better about yourself, and I knew then she was going to be getting more done. I think she has had something done to her nose, it seems more uplifted now then in the picture with the fork over her head. But really, it doesn't matter, just don't lie abut it...
The sheeple are funny, very funny! They are defending Kate's selfish behavior on the most recent Radar post with ridiculous excuses. It is a satirical comedy!
New York State of Mind said...
Snark can be insensitive and mean-spirited, which this was. I don't happen to believe that couching something as snark should give people free reign to be nasty without being called on it.
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Kate? Is that you? Free reign or rein? :)
November 16, 2011 8:03 AM
New York State of Mind said...
...Or free range? Are you sure? Which is it?
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New York, when reading your reply to Wow, Just Wow, it seemed you were implying that he/she was Kate. And I missed the smiley face at the end, so I'm thinking you were just trying to tease her about her grammar?
For myself, I'm not overly concerned about spelling and grammar here, unless it's really getting in the way of my understanding the point someone is trying to make. I use my iPhone sometimes when I comment and will make my fair share of spelling and grammatical errors, so, again, I try and be understanding. None of us are perfect.
I just watched the Extra interview. WTF???? Is Kate 13 years old? Every other word out of her mouth is "like." There aren't as many "ums" but there are enough to make the interview atrocious. I just can't believe that she thinks she has a future as a talk show host. The woman is so inarticulate and uneducated.
Anyone else notice how unhappy and emotionless she looks? And she expects anyone to want to hire her for her own talk show? Yeah, good luck on that one Kate.
Someone on one of the other threads swore up and down that Kate had her teeth fixed (that terribly mis-aligned upper jaw). In the "gazing" photo with Steve on this thread, you can see very clearly that Kate didn't go under the oral surgery knife, or have any other dental procedure done to correct the problem.
I can't figure out the Steve and Kate thing either. Will find out in the end, one way or the other, I suppose. Obviously, if he's with her, he must find her attractive in some way. But honestly (and I apologize if I offend anyone), if Steve and Kate were together, I would think Kate would be a little more relaxed from having regular sex. She just seems way too up tight for someone with a lover.
I know that if he were my husband, I would have asked him to quit a long time ago or at least when TLC pulled the plug. If he refused, we'd be legally separated or divorced. Fortunately, my husband would.
Also, could someone send the link where Jon told Bonnie Fuller he was not taking care of the kids while Kate was gone? I think this was a rumor that started on Gather and caught some steam.
For today only, I will share Jon's tweet:
jongosselin1 Jon Gosselin
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@HLBaby Your story is untrue and your sources are unreliable.
23 hours ago Favorite Reply
"New York, when reading your reply to Wow, Just Wow, it seemed you were implying that he/she was Kate. And I missed the smiley face at the end, so I'm thinking you were just trying to tease her about her grammar?"
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Nope. Not a grammar teaser. Just snarking at KATE (not at WOW) about her free raining, reigning, reining, ranging snafu -- if she reads here!!!!!!!
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For today only, I will share Jon's tweet:
jongosselin1 Jon Gosselin
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@HLBaby Your story is untrue and your sources are unreliable.
23 hours ago Favorite Reply
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Someone posted this yesterday. Did HLBaby reply?
See my new article:
Kate Gosselin On the Run
I saw the story and asked anyone who was on Jon's Twitter list to advise if Jon had mentioned having the kids. Jane sent back a copy of Jon's tweet to hollybaby:
jongosselin1 Jon Gosselin
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@HLBaby Your story is untrue and your sources are unreliable.
I think the fact that Kate was so unspecific about what the kids were doing in her absence led people to speculate that perhaps she had asked Jon to take them/stay with them. She really said very little on Twitter about her plans for herself or the kids. Which is fine, but then people start putting things into her mouth that she never said. Fans and non-fans alike.
Bells On Bobtail Ring said... Someone on one of the other threads swore up and down that Kate had her teeth fixed (that terribly mis-aligned upper jaw). In the "gazing" photo with Steve on this thread, you can see very clearly that Kate didn't go under the oral surgery knife, or have any other dental procedure done to correct the problem.
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CAPS done. Not oral surgery. And she very clearly DID have her teeth capped. She is s SUPER star!
@Silimom, I'm right there with ya. But most husbands would respect their family and would have quit when all the rumors surfaced.
Well isn't Stevie just precious with his little sweater thrown over his shoulders? LOL. As for Kate, all I can say is at least she hasn't dug out the hooker heels yet.
Wow, just watched the Kate interview. The interviewer seemed thrilled to be there.
I have to say, Kate was much more interesting to watch before she divorced Jon. Yes, she was still a shrew, yes she was narcissistic, but not to the degree she is now. I think. She was much more animated. She just kind of seems like the walking dead right now and just...sad. Tired and sad, with no joy in life. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. It's just my impression.
I just think it's, again, sad. For someone who claims to love being on television, she really doesn't light up at all when she's on. She acts most times like her children are just this responsibility, this burden that she must bear because no one else will.
The only time she seems animated at all is when she's on Twitter. That, imo, is pathetic.
Sue Buddy- I love you! :)
You just know AJ Calloway, the interviewer, was laughing hysterically inside when she said that she really wants to do a talk show. I'm surprised he didn't fall out of his chair trying to hold it in.
CAPS done. Not oral surgery. And she very clearly DID have her teeth capped. She is s SUPER star!
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Of course she had work done on her teeth. My comment was in response to the poster who said that she no longer has the mis-aligned upper jaw and that in another photo (with the koala) her teeth lined up perfectly under her nose, and therefore, she had the problem corrected. It was the discussion on the previous thread.
However, if you look at the photo with her looking at Steve at the zoo, her upper jaw is still off to the left and needs to be moved to the right to line up under her nose. Not a simple dental procedure.
Bells On Bobtail Ring said... Point taken. I agree no oral surgery, just CAPS.
It does sound to me as if the poster "Hippie Chik"(?) was implying that Terri Irwin was glad she had no husband so she could pimp her kids out.
I'll never forget Terri's interview with Baba Wawa. She said "He was my prince." Terri was devastated and beyond broken hearted. JMO
Losing a husband that was so deeply loved must be very, very difficult.
[sighing contently]
Ah...... Sue Buddy, you are such a star :o)
Never stop calling out Kate on her bullsh*t.
Kate Gosselin On The Run:
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980778770
a coincidence is not the same as an accident said... I saw in the paper the other day that the Phila. marathon is this weekend. I don't know anything about running, but, as many have said, wouldn't it be better for a cash-strapped mom of EIGHT!!!!!!!! kids to try a local one, rather than flying to freakin' Las Vegas???
She disgusts me. She wants to be revered as the world's greatest mother, yet avoids her children as much as she possibly can. HOW do the sheeple not see this? (rhetorical question)
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Trying to catch up with all of the posts, but I completely agree, there is no reason in the world Kate needs to travel, and could not do a local marathon, other than to get away from her kids. This woman has serious "maternal issues" and does not want to be home.
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