Hi,
Thank you for taking the time to email us regarding [Kate Gosselin]. I can understand your/their concern, but I would like to make a few things very clear.
First, Kate was NOT paid or compensated in any way for the photo. Kate is a supporter of the Red Cross on her own and this is her way of showing her support. It is not the choice I would have made, however, we had nothing to do with the pose or the choice she made. She is also in NO way a spokesperson for us.
We have since asked her to choose a different photo to post on her website and are awaiting her response.
Kate is one of dozens of local and national celebrities with Philadelphia area ties who have agreed to don a Red Cross blanket to show their support. Among the others are Bill Cosby and Kevin Bacon.
All I can ask is that you and your family to continue to support the Red Cross because of the wonderful work we do and the hundreds of thousands of people we help every year recover from what is often the worst moment of their lives, not because Kate Gosselin or any other celebrity showed their support for us.
Thanks for your time and consideration. Have a great day.
237 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 237 Newer› Newest»It was a nice way of covering ones A$$, embarrassment, anger, that a celeb?, would be so insensed to not think, that this is a well established, Christian charity, not some photo op for ones self. The RC did a nice job, in Damage control, but Kate put a big dent in it. Kate assumes that what ever she does is correct, and nobody can tell her different, if they do, we already know what happens to them. Kate is one TWISTED SISTER!
Do the right thing , Kate. The RedX asked you to.
Of course, she won't.
So, the Red Cross did contact Kate and ask for a photo. Too bad she made the organization look so cheap and tawdry. I bet they're wishing they had their blanket back.
Interesting...so if she "agreed" to do it she must have been asked by the Red Cross. Poor choice for them to associate with! In comparison, google Kevin Bacon's red cross blanket picture. It is tasteful and artistic not trampy and efforless.
Thanks for info, Admin. I'm glad to see they've made the request. Will she comply? I feel as you, that she won't. When has Kate ever made a concession?
I brought this over to the appropiate thread.
It will be interesting to see if Kate changes the Red Cross picture because in her mind that would amount to admitting she's wrong and apologizing. Think about it, she has multiple speeding tickets, parks in the fire lane, berates her children in public, leaves them unattended in the BBB and allows Colin to crawl under the BBB. These incidents are all recent and she has never admitted she was at fault in any way. I'll wager that the executives at Coupon Cabin are doing a group face palm today.
Kate Gosselin = public relations nightmare. The Red Cross doesn't get any points for asking this child exploiter o get involved in the first place. Actors have a career. Kate's only "work" is avoiding her children and self-promotion.
Maybe Kate's hoping that by the time she gets back from Oz, this will have all blown over and she can leave the sex kitten (GAG)pose up. Wonder when she's leaving. Wasn't the big auction and gala supposed to be Nov. 9?
readerlady
I'm glad the Red Cross has asked her to take the picture down.
This is clearly an attempt to garner publicity for herself. Kate has never volunteered for ANYTHING, well unless it was TLC sanctioned. What is even more laughable is that Kate fancies herself a celebrity.
I predict that not only will Kate NOT take down her picture, but that she will act upset and offended that she was EVEN asked too. We all know that she never does anything wrong (in her mind anyway).
Well good for the RC to answer to this, not that I imagine K8 will do anything as she ignores any attempt to call her out - she certainly is never wrong. And I certainly understand how she came to get the blanket; in her area, she is indeed a local celebrity, doubt this would have happened in the larger markets (LA, NY) that she only pretends to be a part of. That said, apparently only our K8 could turn this into her own bizarre photo op; I imagine her 6 fans will be atwittering up a storm today about the unfairness of it all, but how does one trash the Red Cross - guess they will have to trash those who brought it to their attention. All of them, K8 and her six followers, are just a bunch of ill-mannered smoke and mirrors people. Let's see how soon Jon gets a share of the blame as well.
Way to go K8.
I can almost hear Kate now...... "I got a tweet from the Red Cross asking me to send in a picture. I wrapped myself up in a RC blanket to show how the RC protects people and gives them a safe place to be. I'm a Mom of 8 and when my kids are scared or cold, I put them under a nice warm blanket and they feel better."
How's that? Have I got it down to Kate logic?
Except, I'm not buying it. It was all about Kate, nothing do do with the Red Cross. Sorry.
Lesson learned for the Red Cross PR person....control how your organization is represented. As part of the deal for celeb endorsement, they should have requested prior review and approval of any photos.
Like I said before, only Kate Gosselin would take a Red Cross blanket (a symbol of their care.....how pictures have you seen with disaster victims wrapped up in that warm blanket?) and turn it into a racy cover-up....I bet that when the Red Cross came up with the idea to send her that blanket, they probably assumed the kids would be involved. As always, Kate made it all about herself.
The photo should have had her kids in it. That is more like what Red Cross had in mind, don't you think?
Ha! The sheeple spent all night and all morning bashing Sue Buddy, calling her a liar, claiming that she didn't speak to anyone at Red Cross Philly. Their typical response of attacking the messenger and deflecting from Khate's bad behavior just blew up in their faces. LMAO!
I'm sure that the Red Cross realizes now what a bad move it was to get Khate involved in any way. She's proven to them and everyone else what a stupid, low class, tacky moron she is.
Aside from the horrendous photo she used, as we've all said the other issue is that if Khate was asked to promote this campaign, uhhhhh, where's the promotion??? The others (like Kevin Bacon and Beth Shak) actually PROMOTED the campaign by tweeting their support, asking their followers to support #RedCrossPhilly, and linking to their photos with the blanket. What does Khate do? Just a tacky photo on her website and a blurb that doesn't even explain the campaign and NO link to the Red Cross!
After observing Khate these last two and a half years, I have to say that she is a COMPLETE FAILURE at everything she does, touches, or gets involved in. It seems to me that the only thing she succeeded at was with her plan to have a high multiples birth and turn it into fame and cash.
Holy crappola, batman! Did she step in it, or what!!!???
This is so 'kart' it's pathetic.
The woman can't do ANYTHING right........
I can't remember EVER reading about a corporation or charity asking a 'celebrity' (gag me) to take down a photo.
This is priceless!!!!!!!!
Her kids and family must be so embarrassed.
TMZ must be laughing their butts off - they made their buck off her and cast her aside to self-destruct all by her lonesome.
I figure she won't do anything because she's on her way first class to the land of koalas - thinking F/U as she sips free champagne.
Let's see if we can predict her next move - financial/tax problems or sex scandal?
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Lesson learned for the Red Cross PR person....control how your organization is represented.
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Amen to that! (Or should that be "!!!!!!!!!!!!!"?)
Sorry, but I do not think the kids should have been in the photo, even if it's for charity. They have been used enough for how many years now? They need to be left alone and have a normal, private life. Although, I am kind of surprised that Khate didn't use them in the photo. I guess her need to be the star of the photo shoot and center of attention prevailed this time.
Oh and don't forget to let Kate know if she is going to be supporting her local firefighters, to please not park in fire lanes at stores
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Holy crappola, batman! Did she step in it, or what!!!???
This is so 'kart' it's pathetic.
The woman can't do ANYTHING right........
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I was just thinking that ever since that crazy weekend when Khate asked her sheeple to post signs all over to save her show (was that August?), right before it got cancelled, she has made SO MANY mistakes! We really should have been keeping a list of them. Oh, that running list with dates would make a great post. I wonder what's next? Getting eaten by a croc at the Australia zoo?
Kt's response - they haven't asked me to do anything today. That was yesterday. They got it all wrong as usual. They didn't do their home work. Yesterday is gone. Tomorrow is another day.
She's. Not. A. Celebrity.
Red Cross Philly just retweeted Kevin Bacon's tweet again and said that there's more to come, keep watching. That was his tweet about his blanket photo being used in a digital gallery.
SO, since Red Cross does not like Khate's photo and has asked her to change it, I guess that means that Khate BLEW it and will NOT be included in the digital gallery? I guess it's bad timing for her that she's either on a plane or already in Australia, so she can't exactly snap a new photo and send it to them. Ha ha ha!
I don't know Taylor Swift other than she's a music star I don't listen to and she's from Wyomissing or nearby. However, from all indications, Taylor is a kind, decent, generous woman whom I would like a lot if I met her.
If Taylor Swift and all her apparent goodness had struck a similar pose in a Red Cross blanket, I would be equally upset. This has little to do with Kate and everything to do with propriety. So I hope the sheeple are not assuming that it is just about Kate. It's not, at least for me.
Cwgirlup75 said... I predict that not only will Kate NOT take down her picture, but that she will act upset and offended that she was EVEN asked too. We all know that she never does anything wrong (in her mind anyway).
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Kater will obviously not do anthing to help anyone other than herself. Just ask her kids. Whoever gave her blanket- Bad move! But she clearly does not demonstrate the rescue mission of the RC..
Someone made a very very bad decision to include someone as irresponsible, self-absorbed, and all about herself in these adds. Take the picture down now!! Kate only denigrates the RC mission, and none of us are surprised, as she is a selfish witch who only cares about herself! What was the RC thinking!?!?!?
Another Day in the Neighborhood said...
Oh and don't forget to let Kate know if she is going to be supporting her local firefighters, to please not park in fire lanes at stores
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I wouldn't worry about it. Kate's not going to be doing anything for anybody else anytime soon, and she sure as hell isn't going to give up parking in fire lanes.
Thanks Administrator for going directly to the Red Cross about the issue. I'm glad they have requested she remove the photo from her website. Hopefully it will be replaced by something more appropriate. Somehow I don't think "appropriate" is a word she understands. The photo shown is terribly insensitive to victims who have been wrapped in similiar blankets, provided by generous donations to the Red Cross.
bm
BM credit should go to a reader who obtained this statement. But not surprisingly they want to be anonymous. This debacle is making her fans very mad.
I agree that the kids should not be used this way. They've been used enough, and don't need to be exploited even by a "good" cause at this point.
Kate should do whatever stupid thing she wants to, but needs to leave the kids out of it. They've been robbed, over and over again. Count me among many who I suspect would also be outraged if Kate used them in her pathetic attempts to rehabilitate herself.
Fortunately, since Kare has solidified her prime position as PR poison, I doubt the chance will come up.
the Red Cross made their own blunder in the end. There have been photos of kate on the internet parking in fire lanes yet they didn't do their research. it's strange though that the Red Coss says not to choose to donate just because a celeb endorses to but chose to because of the wonderful work they do..yet they reached out to a polarizing celebrity to assist with their campaign.
I do not think kate will take the photo down and replace it with another. if anything she will just take it down since the Red Cross didn't pay her anything. sadly, had kate promoted this on her twitter and explained what she was doing to PROMOTE the cause then there wouldn't have been all this confusion. again it falls on the Red Cross marketing for asking her in the 1st place.
i hope she did donate to the Red Cross if she wore the blanket. The letter doesn't specify it just said she agreed to "don the blanket"
i am torn about the whole situation. it's hard to be upset with anyone who supports a charity but at the same time celebs really need to educate themselves before they agree to do promotions so that they represent properly. a little research into what it is your promoting and what values they want to express would go a long way. we are constantly hearing celebs in the media "apologizing" for their latest gaffe's. people who CHOOSE the public eye should be mindful when they speak/act instead of waiting to see if their is backlash than offering the standard "i'm sorry".
in the end..I hate that the Red Cross is spending their day fielding tweets from fans/non fans. i peeked on a twitter page of fans/nonfans and both "sides" are copying Red Cross on their tweets to bash each other. What a mess. Some of the language isn't appropriate either. kate really is too polarizing at this time to be an effective spokesperson. unfortunately that is the brand she created for herself and i assume organizations know this when asking her to join them for promotions.
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She'll consult with her manager/boob handler, Steve Neild. He'll advise her to replace the photo with an appropriate photo. She'll explode, rant & rave that she's a celebrity & can do whatever she wants. She'll cry & scream, tell him he's being rude. He'll take her in a closet to 'talk her down.' She'll comply with another photo that Steve takes. Then her sheeple will defend her a*s, as usual.
Just speculating a possible scenario! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (C-atie lingo)
well, at this point it looks like this is between Kate and the Red Cross now to settle. Dont know why they would ask for her endorsment anyway - other than someone in some office somewhere is a fan and promoted her as a 'poor struggling mom of 8" and someone biggerwig said, Oh OK then. What next?- Warren Jeffs tweeting his blanket pic from his prison cell? "oh, he's just some Mormon pastor..."
Dont these people ever research anything? It's like promoting Casey Anthony for anything because she is 'just some plain young mom whose baby daughter was killed', or Kim Kardashian coz she is "just this sad lady who is suddenly getting divorced from her celebrity NBA husband after only 72 days". There are ways to Kate-speak anything and make monsters sound good.
On a totally catty note, if I were Kate, I would personally take more control over my pics, at least until she gets her health under control. In this pic she has a huge bobble head, enormous floppy feet, and that head is overshadowed by her very large false teeth. I will show my age here and say she looks like an international red cross ad for a Biafra mom. She looks seriously nutrient deficient. As I said before, she might be muscle wasting at this point, she is probably experiencing some physical pain from it, and for the kids' sake, I hope she survives her first heart attack. The heart muscle doesnt take kindly to being consumed by the body for calories and protein.
BTW, I donate to our local Red Cross annually because the organization does WONDERFUL work.
I don't give a flying F*!k about C-atie Krawford. Everyone KNOWS she's a selfish, greedy, child-pimping, egotistical maniac! If she really cared, she would DONATE the free clothing she receives to local charities instead of selling the kids' clothes to a consignment shop. If she really cared, she would volunteer at the local charities WITHOUT the TLC cameras. If she really cared, she would disappear.
Yes, the kids have been exploited enough. She could have taken a nice photo with her and Shoka (the Red Cross is there for PETS too!. But I am dreaming because that poor dog is not her pet, that dog is a watchdog, IMO.
I believe she is going to have a sh** fit when she finds out about this. And her response: I am strong, I never give up, I never back down, I am never going to allow anyone to tell me what to do, I am in control of everything. And the fans? They have never made any sense and don't expect them to start now. They went over the sheeple edge a looooong time ago.
I want to clarify something I said in the last post that seems to be misunderstood.
I said that Kate is stupid and lazy and any amount of thought we put into why she does what she does is WAY more thought than she ever put into her actions, guaranteed.
In fact, that's a large part of her problem: she doesn't think things through. She just does stuff or opens her mouth with no thought as to how it is perceived.
I was in no way saying she shouldn't be criticized for those things. She is still a somewhat public figure and has expressed her desperate wish to remain one, so criticism when she screws up (which for Kate is quite often) should be expected.
If I were the person in charge of RC PR, I'd ask her to take it down, too, but I also wouldn't have asked her to pose for one of the pics in the first place--I know how universally disliked/disregarded she is.
Mimi to 3: she'll retweet a dozen "inspirational" tweets from Runner's World with "I AM!!!!" and "ME2!!!!!!" after them. Hee.
By the way, I think it's hilarious that the "inspirational" quotes on the front page of her site have usage errors and are in that horrible unreadable font. Whoever is designing that crap for her, well, I hope they are an amateur and this is their first job. And they've never had any instruction in web design/graphic design.
I think Kate will smile, appreciate how her photo did exactly what she wanted it to - i.e. get people talking about her - and then will ask the Red Cross for nine more blankets and will then take a photo of her, the kids and Shoka posing in the blankets and post that on her site.
Here's a question - Had Taylor Swift or Lindsay Lohan or Selena Gomez or Renee Zellweger or any other actress posed this way, would people have emailed the Red Cross as much as they have over Kate Gosselin? Or would people have looked, rolled their eyes and ignored it?
As the Red Cross employee asked in the Gather article, are you upset about the pose or upset that it's Kate Gosselin?
If you feel compelled to email or call the Red Cross, please remember to keep it calm and polite and to focus on why you are bothered by the pose. They have far better things to do than worry about a picture of Kate Gosselin, IMO.
I'm not trying to invalidate anyone's feelings - you feel the way you feel about this. But I would like to share my perspective, which is that in the grand scheme of things this is simply a photo made by a desperately insecure woman who needs constant public validation that she is special and worthy of love. It was in poor taste and that shouldn't surprise any of us. No major new stories picked it up, only one gossip site (Gather) and a few Anti-Kate blogs. Kate will slowly fade away, I am convinced of that more each day. I don't believe she deserves the passion of feeling many people afford her. Again just my opinion.
... how the Red Cross managed to hook up with a z-list "celebrity" who is famous for exploiting her children. . . and parking in fire lanes.
Due diligence, folks. Due diligence.
It's too late now, but if you type "kate gosselin" and "fire" into Google, you get a whole list of hits explaining in great detail why you'd never want her to represent your interests.
Nobody Likes a Narcissist said...
I was just thinking that ever since that crazy weekend when Khate asked her sheeple to post signs all over to save her show (was that August?), right before it got cancelled, she has made SO MANY mistakes! We really should have been keeping a list of them. Oh, that running list with dates would make a great post.
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I don't have dates, but I'll start! I know some of these are from the same faux pas, like Halloween, but they are MULTIPLE bad decisions, bad PR moves, bad parenting, and/or downright illegal.
1. Parking in fire lane (once or twice?)
2. Saying that all her trees were down when it was only one that was partially broken, plus limbs from others.
3. Using Red Cross photo
4. Leaving kids unsupervised in van for fifteen minutes at Chinese restaurant. (Report was it would have been longer had Kate not seen someone taking photos.)
5. Not getting out of van at bus stop (not supervising them in the parking lot), which allowed Collin to crawl under van.
6. Blaming the snow storm for her kids being unable to trick or treat.
7. Dressing up herself on halloween but not allowing the younger children to go out or dress up.
8. Bragging about buying leftover Halloween candy cheaply.
9. Not realizing that allowing the older girls to go but not the younger one was very insensitive.
10. Having fans dress up and make homemade sign and prove they posted them in public.
11. Saying she had made up with Ashley after the van trip when Ashley claimed otherwise.
12. Speeding tickets (how many?)
13. Joking about gong 100 mph in her personal life on the day she received one of the tickets.
14. Not having her website ready when she first promoted it on TV (the View?)
15. Arriving late to her speaking engagement.
16. Bragging about writing the speech in the car. If true (and I don't think it was), it showed complete disrespect for the attendees. If a lie, well, it's just another Kate lie.
17. Not expressing her OUTRAGE upon learning of the child porn guy editing her children's images.
18. Not demanding (as Jon did) to know more about specifically what images were confiscated.
19. Agreeing to let a fan buy lots of EXPIRED cereal for her kids.
20. Leaving the fan stuck with all the cereal.
21. Lying about how or when she purchased the new car (didn't she?)
22. Not removing Red Cross photo immediately upon request. (Yes, she may, but I think we know she won't.)
She's in Illinois? So she's not on her way to Oz? Interesting that she's not tweeting.
kerimorgan
@Kateplusmy8 is gona be at @WGNMorningNews tmw dangit wish I was still workin over there not in Trib Tower! hate all u want, i love her!
@silimom, I'll answer your question. Of those "celebs" you referred to I certainly would contact the RC if they used Lindsay Lohan. She's a drug addict and shoplifter (among other things) and cannot get her act together enough to even complete her community service obligations. I'm astonished that the RC didn't do even the tiniest research on Kate Gosselin. An organization as media savvy as the RC should have overseen this whole process from first contact to photo approval. Yes, it is a local RC and a local campaign but apparently no research was done. I'll still donate to the RC but I do hope the national headquarters will oversee the local branches a bit better.
@silimom, I'll answer your question. I will, too.
I'd object to BOTH. Inappropriate use of the blanket (trivializing a comforting disaster tool) and horrible choice of someone as the face of the Red Cross.
It's even worse since she's been photographed at least four times parked in a FIRE lane outside the UPS store where she picks up her mail. But I don't much care for this use of a disaster tool, either. There are so many better ways to get the point across.
We could also add:
23. iPad-gate (however that fits in)
24. dissing her fansite owner by saying she doesn't and wouldn't go there. I believe she insulted BM twice.
Anonymous said... Maybe Kate's hoping that by the time she gets back from Oz, this will have all blown over and she can leave the sex kitten (GAG)pose up. Wonder when she's leaving. Wasn't the big auction and gala supposed to be Nov. 9?
readerlady
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Exactly the look she's going for with the arched back and pointed toes...and GAG is right. She got the Red Cross confused with the offer she never got from Playboy.
I think this photo was taken the same day of the fall pictures. Her hair looks the same. If she had a professional photographer take these, she probably had many to chose from. How embarrassing for her to be asked to take down this picture from the Red Cross, she really should feel ashamed.
Just a correction: Meant to say "arched legs and pointed toes"...not arched back.
silimom -- I'll answer your question. I would object to ANY celeb. being photographed for a Red Cross campaign in a pose similar to Kate's. That it is Kate just makes me object that much more.
Don't forget:
25. Jon's "mediocre" life for the kids.
26.Any number of meltdowns and disrespectful displays during the RV trip, including, but not limited to Steve's pizza, her disrespect of Jamie and Ashley, preventing the twins from going to the Grand Canyon overlook with the rest of the group, showing more affection and playfulness toward Jamie's son than she ever does toward her own children, calling the Grand Canyon a waste of real estate.
27.Removing the children from school and taking them to Australia over their father's objections.
28.Stating that she doesn't understand why Jon should have any say in the childrens' lives.
29. Disrespectful tweet about Paul Petersen.
30. Screaming at the kids at the bus stop/yelling at the twins in the parking lot.
31. Going to a posh Wyoming resort after crying poor mouth and saying she doesn't know how she'll feed her kids after show is cancelled.
32. Going on a bar crawl in NYC and getting her foot licked.
33. Diva behavior in Tennessee, demanding a police escort out of the airport when there was no one there.
34. The LaFair law suit.
35. Calling the children extensions of her.
36. Presenting Steve's family with a picture of him with HER kids.
37. The skyjump meltdown.
38. Calling the tups school field trip "dull and boring".
These are just some of the things I came up with by reviewing discussion topics on this site. I kept it to 2011. I'm sure we could come up with 100's just reviewing her behaviors over the past 2 years.
readerlady
Sorry. I just re-read the original post. Many of the items on my list occurred before the cancellation of the show. However, I think all of the occurrences go to show that Kate is a PR nightmare and a bad representative for ANY business or charity that wants to be taken seriously.
readerlady
HI 50 said... She'll consult with her manager/boob handler, Steve Neild. He'll advise her to replace the photo with an appropriate photo. She'll explode, rant & rave that she's a celebrity & can do whatever she wants. She'll cry & scream, tell him he's being rude. He'll take her in a closet to 'talk her down.' She'll comply with another photo that Steve takes. Then her sheeple will defend her a*s, as usual.
Just speculating a possible scenario! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (C-atie lingo)
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And then Kate will pout and roll her eyes toward the sky and tell Steve, "This is SO over," and he will look down at the ground like a wounded puppy and respond, "Whatevah."
Virginia Pen Mom - Great list!
readerlady - your list too! But, I was only talking about since her show was canceled, or that weekend right before the cancellation announcement when Khate asked fans to put up posters all over the place to help save the show. If we did the whole YEAR, oh wow, the list would go on forever! But, as bad as she is, it's pretty obvious that she has been in a severe downward spiral since TLC cut her loose.
Btw, the Australia dates are as follows:
Saturday, November 12th: Steve Irwin Gala Dinner at the at the Brisbane Convention and Exhibition Centre - this is when the items will be auctioned off
Monday, November 14th: Luncheon with Khate for the winning bidder and eight of his/her friends at the Chalk Hotel
Tuesday, November 15th: Steve Irwin Day - various celebrations and activities at the Australia Zoo
Keep in mind that they are 14 hours ahead of EST, which means the dinner would be occurring some time in the very early morning hours of Saturday for those of us in the EST time zone, and, obviously, earlier for the other US time zones. I didn't see what time the dinner is, but if it's at 6PM Saturday, then that would be 4AM Saturday in PA. (I didn't Google it, in a rush, so if I made a mistake, please correct it)
38. Calling the tups school field trip "dull and boring".
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That one really hit close to home. So many parents planned for that trip, raised money for it, looked forward to it (it's an annual event that goes back to the stone age...almost), and then to see her tweet that she was bored (didn't she call it a mosquito pit?). It irked me to no end. If you don't like that sort of thing, fine, but you just say that we went on a field trip that was very well planned and the kids had a good time. Period. It was all about her. She did absolutely nothing to help or plan for the trip, but opened her mouth and dissed it. Typical Kate. I guess it should have been expected, but still...
Not sure if this has been posted. But just my curiosity here, what if Kate chose not to remove the photograph? I mean we all know she isn't used to having to do what other people tell her, and is often finding ways to get around certain rules so they suit her.
Could this photograph, should she chose not to remove it, cause legal problems for her?
I am only speaking because I see a pattern that Kate is not used to taking orders from people, but that rules don't necessarily apply to her.
With her needing to be in Australia on the 12th and not tweeting in a long while, I wonder if she is already on her way with Neild.
Nobody -- I know. That's what I get for trying
to rely on my memory. Can you say "senior moment"? LOL. At least I got 4 of them in the right time-frame. The "mediocre" comment, the screaming episodes, the PP tweet, and the Wyoming trip.
Thanks for the update on the "gala" times. I knew the "luncheon" with Kate was scheduled for the 14th, but wasn't sure about the times for the other events.
readerlady
If Kate ever does mention this debacle she'll claim that she didn't "check her email" due to "traveling". Yeah right, she's a famewhore traveling with a sleazy "bodyguard"/"manager" that's panting to get her to any gig that will keep her in the public eye. I'll bet they check email often, traveling or not.
She's to busy on inside ed today and in my town of chicago (yuck) In my news. Kate said "I'm not rich"-Maybe if she say's it enough out loud people will belive her
She's to busy on inside ed today and in my town of chicago (yuck) In my news.
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There's an article in the Chicago newspaper about her?
She's got some big ole ugly feet.
Great Expectations said... She's to busy on inside ed today and in my town of chicago (yuck) In my news.
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There's an article in the Chicago newspaper about her?
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She will be on the 9 o"clock chicago news in the morining. I saw the news commercial it's for couponing gig
Marie said...Could this photograph, should she chose not to remove it, cause legal problems for her?
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No, but it could cause image problems with being included in other charitable causes. It will drive home the point that Katie is too hard to work with. Those who say that Katie acts like a 12 year old are proven correct again. One would think that a simple request (by Katie's people) to submit a photo would go smoothly. However, she posts a questionable photo that can be interpreted as in poor taste.
What a moron. She knows she's controversial. Her manager asked to be included and she can't supply a simple photo without being told that it doesn't fit the image of the organization.
The problem is this. Katie Irene gave the Red Cross a PETA photo.
fidosmommy said...
I can almost hear Kate now...... "I got a tweet from the Red Cross asking me to send in a picture. I wrapped myself up in a RC blanket to show how the RC protects people and gives them a safe place to be. I'm a Mom of 8 and when my kids are scared or cold, I put them under a nice warm blanket and they feel better."
How's that? Have I got it down to Kate logic?
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Sorry fidosmommy, but I must revise one of your sentences. According to Kate logic, she would say: "I'm a Mom of 8 and when my kids are scared or cold, I put MYSELF under a nice warm blanket and they feel better because they know how I hate to be cold and how important it is for me to be comfortable."
She will be on the 9 o"clock chicago news in the morining. I saw the news commercial it's for couponing gig
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I would think that could have been pre-recorded. In fact, maybe that's why she met with the coupon site's "social media" person last Friday at that hotel in Reading. That woman flew from Chicago for the meeting, so maybe there was a local news person along with her to pre-tape a quick interview that day?
readerlady - So sorry, I didn't see your second post about the list when I was typing mine. Easy mistake, (on both our parts); this stuff is more than enough to drive anyone "bezerk"!
No problem, Nobody. I figured our posts crossed each other in transmission. As I said, that's what I get for trying to rely on my memory. I agee about driving anyone "bezerk". Kate's so over-the-top and out of touch with reality that it's impossible to keep up with her, although I think we do a darn good job of trying.
readerlady
Ah, and I even hate myself for having this lightbulb moment, but if she's going to be in Chicago tomorrow morning, she must be flying out of there to LA and then onto Oz. Remember her Sunday tweets about how stressed she was, had to work on some complications but then it was all for the better. I think her new coupon "job" presented her witht his opp to be on the radio in Chicago but she already had rezzies to fly to Australia from another airport, and so she and whoever does her plans (god knows she can't), had to scramble and rearrange the itinerary. But really, big whoop.
So today imust be sayonara kids, off to the Windy City on her whirlwind tour of self-importance, and thus she could give a rat's ass about anything the Red Cross has to say. Note there is no tweeting (doesn't work in Chicago either :-).
She won't be home for at least a week; kids will be alone with a sitter for the next 7-10 days.
Perhaps we should start a lottery with guesses about what lunch w/ K8G will raise for the zoo? Prizes?
B_Dubss Billy Warrick
Meeting Kate Gosselin in a few minutes. Should be one of the stranger moments of my life
November 9th, 5:07 PM
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Taking a quick look at his Twitter, I think he is in Chicago because on November 6th, he posted: "B_Dubss Billy Warrick
I'm at United Center for Vancouver Canucks vs. Chicago Blackhawks (1901 W Madison St., at Damen Ave., Chicago) [pic]: 4sq.com/unmHMY"
Westcoaster - good theory!
On inside-Ed
Kate said she's not rich and she got called out for having Collion under the car. Once again she blamed other's.
Who is Billy Warrick?
I like how Kate has her boobs hanging out on in the Inside Edition piece. I'm sure that will encourage people to do couponing.
I am more than bothered that the Red Cross lumped Khate with Bill Cosby and Kevin Bacon- REALLY? Also bothered that the coupon website is sending out someone on PR tours who is clearly NOT an expert! REALLY-again! Geesh!
To Anonymous,
I'm a single mother with 3 kids and I work constantly to give them all I can.
I usually give to the Red Cross every year but this year I will be giving to the United Way.
Why?
I know Red Cross didn't approve this photo but I will not donate one red cent to any organization that associates with the child exploiting shrew.
I'm sorry for the bad press this brings to Red Cross but Kate cannot just decide she's a spokesperson for someone without checking with them first.
Maybe I'm wrong to not give to the Red Cross this year but I cannot in good conscious give my hard earned money to help keep Katie in heels and veneers. Just the implication of impropriety is enough for me to change charities.
I'm sorry to all the hard working people with the Red Cross. This is how *I* feel and I don't expect anybody to agree with me.
JudyK said... And then Kate will pout and roll her eyes toward the sky and tell Steve, "This is SO over," and he will look down at the ground like a wounded puppy and respond, "Whatevah."
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C-atie had the funkiest response @ the RV trip when she asked Stevie boy if he was gonna take care of photo one of the campers took. If you can review the scene, watch it. She started wringing her hands & her facial expressions were, well, watch it. She's so OVER IT, so DONE with her hysterics!
United Way Today said...
I am long time supporter of Americares who does the same disaster relief work all over the world. I like them better because the head honcho doesn't make over $600,000 annually with paid expenses and 6 weeks paid vacation. I donate my hard earned money for disaster relief, not help run a nonprofit.
Sheep going crazy on twitter with alot of accusations towards our friend Sue Buddy.
Uh-oh - The Red Cross has treaded into very dangerous sheeple territory. This will be all the Red Cross' fault.
As a 'Mom of 8' could she not have sat in that same chair wearing a nice sweater & a relaxed pair of jeans? She could be having a hot cup of coffee while reading a book. The blanket could lay across her cozily displaying the Red Cross insignia.
On second thought, take out the part about reading a book.
Chefsummer - Thanks for telling us about it.
Be sure to click the link to see the two photos. In one, she's in front of a computer, fake blogging, with boobs hanging out.
Kate Gosselin Hired as Coupon Blogger
Airdate : 11/9/2011
Reality has hit Kate Gosselin and she's now selling coupons to make a living!
"I might be famous, but I'm not rich," she says.
Her show Kate Plus 8 was cancelled in September, and now Kate has scored a new job, blogging about coupons for couponcabin.com.
"I do really use coupons and I have always used coupons," she tells INSIDE EDITION.
Even with the cancellation of her show, Gosselin can't escape the spotlight. Everyday occurrences get unwanted attention. The tabloids went after her when one of her sextuplets was photographed crawling under her van to retrieve a piece of paper.
"Every mom out there, if they had cameras following them, would be caught in a moment of yelling at their child or making a mistake," says Gosselin.
She says America still has a lot of misconceptions about her.
"[People think] That I'm mean, and horrible, and a terrible mom," she says. "I am really tough because I just want the best for my kids."
Now that she's a single mom of eight clipping coupons, she says she knows it's going to be tough getting a date.
"It's a concern of mine. I don't, obviously, like being alone. It would be nice to have somebody sort of in my same corner but at the same time I don't have a lot of time to think about it," she says.
"I might be famous, but I'm not rich," she says.
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I wonder if the interviewer knew that Khate was on her way to Australia? Too bad they didn't ask who's paying for the flight and trip expenses. Plus, if Steve was with her, they should have asked, "Well, without TLC footing the bill anymore, how can you afford a bodyguard, or assistant, or whatever he is? No steady income, yet you have employees on the payroll?"
"Every mom out there, if they had cameras following them, would be caught in a moment of yelling at their child or making a mistake," says Gosselin.
I agrees! A moment. One Or two or three Not 36 bad moments for gosh sakes.
Now that she's a single mom of eight clipping coupons
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How does one give birth to eight clipping coupons? Do the coupons have names? How old are they?
I think this should be "now that she's a single mom of eight who is clipping coupons..."
"Now that she's a single mom of eight clipping coupons, she says she knows it's going to be tough getting a date."
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No man wants to date a woman who clips coupons?
"The tabloids went after her when one of her sextuplets was photographed crawling under her van to retrieve a piece of paper."
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Ah, but Kate says it was a water bottle.
Jackie Warrick is the president of CouponCabin. So Billy must either be her husband or her brother. Oh yes, she's definitely in Chicago tonight. And no doubt flying out from there to Australia as soon as her interview tomorrow morning is over.
Administrator said...
"Every mom out there, if they had cameras following them, would be caught in a moment of yelling at their child or making a mistake," says Gosselin.
I agrees! A moment. One Or two or three Not 36 bad moments for gosh sakes.
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Yeah. Not to mention, how many moms lie and deny when they make "mistakes", over and over again?
Real mothers care. Real mothers pay attention. Real mothers don't treat their children like bothersome commodities.
Kate was just an incubator for her cash-producing litter. She screws up again and again because she just doesn't care. And she does it so much, and so publicly, that the record is right there for everyone to see.
I should go up there and take pic of her and Steveie-boy
Gift of grab said...
Jackie Warrick is the president of CouponCabin. So Billy must either be her husband or her brother. Oh yes, she's definitely in Chicago tonight. And no doubt flying out from there to Australia as soon as her interview tomorrow morning is over.
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Interesting, thanks.
So, look at how someone responded to his tweet, lol:
B_Dubss Billy Warrick
Meeting Kate Gosselin in a few minutes. Should be one of the stranger moments of my life
November 9, 5:07 PM
BillyMorley Billy Morley
@B_Dubss That sucks, why are you meeting Kate Gosselin?
November 9, 5:45 PM
She did absolutely nothing to help or plan for the trip,
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Is there concrete information to prove this?
Kate: "Every mom out there, if they had cameras following them, would be caught in a moment of yelling at their child or making a mistake," says Gosselin.
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If the cameras catch this, what goes on at home when the cameras aren't around? What mistake does she acknowledge that she has made?
Too bad she apparently ran out of time to write that blog post about how a single, not rich, mother of 8 prepares herself, her house, her meals, her kids, their laundry, etc., so that she is able to travel the world. Hope she left the not-a-nanny that large coupon envelope and a gas credit card.
Is there concrete information to prove this?
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Yes, ma'am, or sir. Check out my ID.
Check out mine.
Here's a link to 1 of the Fire Lane violations
http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/kate-gosselins-grape-escape-4545/
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I should go up there and take pic of her and Steveie-boy
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Why?
The problem is this. Katie Irene gave the Red Cross a PETA photo.
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Thanks for the laugh. Clara Barton must be rolling over in her grave.
Sue_Buddy, if you're reading here, don't sweat what the sheeple are calling the "inaccuracies" in your story about Kate and the Red Cross. It is clear that only today has the person who is now responding to these inquiries (the one who signed the letter above, not sure this is who you spoke to) said that he MISTAKENLY told some people yesterday that RC had asked her to take the pic off her Web site. Apparently, they did not do this. However, the fact remains that they do not plan to post in their "digital gallery" the pic she put on her site and have asked her to provide a different one. For whatever reason, presumably because it did not convey the right image.
In any case, your story as you wrote it YESTERDAY was clearly based on your best information at the time. The fact that the statement has been further qualified TODAY by the RC has no bearing whatsoever on your credibility. I also do not believe that you "misrepresented" yourself in any way when you spoke to the RC, and I doubt that the spokesman actually named any such individual. The sheeple love to accuse anyone who doesn't share their views on Kate of lying.
Don't let the goads of these myopic sycophants affect your well-reasoned and well-informed reporting and commentary on Kate Gosselin. Keep up the good work.
Are there any sheeple who play with a full deck?
Some individual, or individuals, may, in fact, have misrepresented himself or themselves to the Red Cross, but that doesn't mean that Sue Buddy did.
This is a big mess for the Red Cross, and KATE is the one who caused it. Hope she's feeling proud and full of herself tonight.
Admin, how can you be sure this letter wasn't a fake?
Moon Over Miami said... chefsummer said...
I should go up there and take pic of her and Steveie-boy
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Why?
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Just like to see if he would to and delt my pic
Just like to see if he would to and delt my pic
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If he would to what? Use his ratclaws?
IE did their home work, they knew better than she did what Collin was doing rolling around under the van while she could not be bothered by it all. Just do what you gotta do and hurry up.
Audible Click said... I brought this over to the appropiate thread.
It will be interesting to see if Kate changes the Red Cross picture because in her mind that would amount to admitting she's wrong and apologizing. Think about it, she has multiple speeding tickets, parks in the fire lane, berates her children in public, leaves them unattended in the BBB and allows Colin to crawl under the BBB. These incidents are all recent and she has never admitted she was at fault in any way. I'll wager that the executives at Coupon Cabin are doing a group face palm today.
Bingo! Let's not forget the Sylvia LaFair lawsuit. I saw she Tweeted thank you to someone for donating to the RC in her honor because of the picture on her website. What a tool.
I think it's sad it's come to this. The Red Cross should be focused on their mission. What's done is done, Kate probably will not take down her photo nor submit a different one to them - I for one am just going to let it go. It doesn't affect my life at all, other than to frustrate me. She's already moved on, promoting herself away from her kids yet again, before embarking on a major trip across the globe away from her kids, to promote herself, again. I feel sorry for the Red Cross at this point. What a mess.
http://www.imperfectwomen.com/kate-gosselin-helps-fundraise-for-the-american-red-cross/comment-page-1/#comment-44113
Feeling bad for the person at the Red Cross who is fielding all the flack.
Hey Admin. Can you somehow prove the above letter came from the Red cross? It might shut some peopleup.
The Red Cross has it's hands full with this PR embarrassment caused by Kate. I too wrote to them and received the same letter with a few minor changes in the greeting at the beginning. They've obviously had to compose a 'form' letter of response to the numerous letters of concern they've received.
I'm not in the least bit surprised how 'tackily' and half-assed Kate handled the request to take a picture with the blanket and promote their campaign. This was par for the course as far as Kate and charity work is concerned.
Do you suppose she is as careless with other professional decisions and details as she showed with the choices she made about the Red Cross campaign; ie: the photo, no tweets, no link to support the Red Cross on her blog, no follow through? I mean, seriously? Is she as careless about the rest of her "work" as she was with everything about this? Do you think she's paying someone to advise her? Dang, they should be fired!
CouponCabin -- look out, you've no idea what you have in store for you after hiring Katie Irene Gosselin -- the worst is yet to come (you can't say we didn't warn you).
I for one am just going to let it go. It doesn't affect my life at all, other than to frustrate me.
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Nothing Kate does affects your life does it?
Huh? I don't follow, sorry. I just mean that I can't control Kate, I can only control me, and all she does is frustrate me when I delve into those very murky waters. She's not worth it.
Why so insulting?
The Tweet's Twits said
CouponCabin -- look out, you've no idea what you have in store for you after hiring Katie Irene Gosselin -- the worst is yet to come (you can't say we didn't warn you).
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Yep, it will be interesting to see how long that lasts before it blows up, too. She just can't help herself.
The letter is directly from the red cross. See the Twits Tweets post, thy are sending this form letter to everyone emailing them.
@Kateplusmt8THANK U Margaret B 4 ur donation 2 Red Cross in my honor after seeing campaign pic of me on my website!Blessings2U@RedCrossPhilly
No wonder it got cold out & windy, today, the witchy/bitchy Kate flew in, it was 51 early this morning, now it is in the upper 30's. Kate is in Chicago, geez Kate we got enough problems here go back to PA. But in a weird way, I'm glad it got real cold out, hope you freeze your ass off Kate. You are certainly not welcome to Chicago. I would never use Coupon cabin for any reason, what's the matter Coupon cabin can't hire anybody in Chicago, (our unemployment rate in Illinois is 9.4%), to do some lamo honest couponing. That president must be a sheeple/fan of Kates. We already have coupon susy here. (the girl who looks like Peter pan). Kate already tweeted that she is in another city, Geez! why here? I also don't watch WGN news anymore, haven't for the last 2 years. I watch ABC news and Fox & regular CLT news(not the WGN feed)either.
In reference to Kate's new COUPON JOB....
Yeah, I really feel like reading her stupid blog.... NOT..... When I think of Kate and COUPON I think ONLY of the way she ripped Jon a new one for not using a coupon!!! Who is the idiot who is signing her paycheck? Can someone find out and send him a snipet of that rant.... along with a link to this site?
Thank you! The less of this chick I see the happier I will be.
Just as I thought, Kate will not acknowledge the RC request to change her photo or even take it down without comment. She may think she's getting the last laugh but this will all come back to haunt her. What she hasn't taken into account is all of the well known and powerful people, past and present, who've put time and effort into helping the RC. These people, or their management/advisers, will hear of this eventually and they'll remember Kate Gosselin and what she did for the sake of a few days worth of publicity. When the time comes she'll be remembered in all the wrong ways by powerful people who are in a position to do her a world of good. Listen up you perfidious bitch, this will all come back to you, as Stephen King said, everything is eventual.
Why can't Kate just accept the request of one of the oldest charities in the world and just put up a more appropriate photo.
Oh, right, it's Kate. Even the Red Cross is wrong.
anger issues kate said... No wonder it got cold out & windy, today, the witchy/bitchy Kate flew in, it was 51 early this morning, now it is in the upper 30's. Kate is in Chicago, geez Kate we got enough problems here go back to PA. But in a weird way, I'm glad it got real cold out, hope you freeze your ass off Kate. You are certainly not welcome to Chicago. I would never use Coupon cabin for any reason, what's the matter Coupon cabin can't hire anybody in Chicago, (our unemployment rate in Illinois is 9.4%), to do some lamo honest couponing. That president must be a sheeple/fan of Kates. We already have coupon susy here. (the girl who looks like Peter pan). Kate already tweeted that she is in another city, Geez! why here? I also don't watch WGN news anymore, haven't for the last 2 years. I watch ABC news and Fox & regular CLT news(not the WGN feed)either.
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Hmm I was wondering why it got so cold all of a sudden and. Peter Pan I was thinking more like devil in a blue dress for some odd reason.
As for all this rage in couponing, wait some of the stores are starting to put limits on how many coupons you can use, on one shopping trip. These people are really ruining it for the rest of us. There was a time a few years ago, they were gonna get rid of coupons, and replace with discount cards. People complained, they let that idea go. But, I bet anyone here, it will make a come back big time. I was reading about, putting coupons on a card, I don't remember if they were talking about a debit card or a credit card, you download from a coupon site or manufacturer or store, no paper to use or cut out, but most stores do not accept that. That would put Kate and these coupon sites out of business, cause you would not have to go through a coupon clearing house, you would go directly to a store, or manufacture and download the coupon. Sounds good to me, can't wait. CVS try that several years ago, only people complained, so they put the store coupons back and available(you would have to get a store discount card to get the sale price)
Another day, another city? Is she kidding?
At this rate with her loving her job, loving traveling and loving coupons she will come home one day and her kids will be all grown up and she missed it. Not that she will ever care as long as she will continue to recieve acknowledgement that she was the one working the non-mediocre job.
She with grow old and alone one day I have no doubt. No kids will visit Kate in the home and she will have next to no money.
How selfish can one person be?
Why can't Kate just accept the request of one of the oldest charities in the world and just put up a more appropriate photo.
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Isn't she in Chicago? I doubt that she took a blanket with her for another photo shoot. It will be interesting to see how she handles this when she gets back. I bet she's thinking that the whole thing will blow over by then.
Other than time away from her children, and a nice getaway with Steve, what is Kate getting out of this trip? Is she being paid?
Chefsummer: there is a commercial for a coupon site called: Coupon Susy: the character looks like a woman from the 50's, the actress looks like Peter Pan. Her hair is too short, does not match the character. But you are right on: Devil in a blue dress!
Hmm I was wondering why it got so cold all of a sudden and. Peter Pan I was thinking more like devil in a blue dress for some odd reason.
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I'm sorry, but I just don't understand this.
So she could just take the blanket down until she comes up with a more appropriate photo.
First they ask you nicely. Then they SUE YOU.
Sure the Red Cross might not be able to come up with grounds to sue her this time, but next time she might not be so lucky with whatever crap she pulls and the person she pulls it against asks her nicely to stop and she refuses. These things have a way of catching up.
Coupon Cabin is based in Chicago. They must've had a meeting with Kate. They are trying to promote the site with Kate on the news. Kate will probably go to Australia after that.
Good luck CC on using Kate for PR. Ask the Red Cross how that worked for them. Unless Kate has a major personality transformation, I don't see why she is used for PR for anybody.
Sorry people its spelled: Couponsuzy.com I see their commercial all the time. There are so many coupon sites, besides, the manufacturers sites, and store sites. Kates: coupon cabin is one of several hundred. I wonder how much of Kate blogging she will steal from other sites blogs and call it her own, idea? Just like the flag cake.
I took a good look at the photo and wanted to throw up!
Having benefited by a donation from the Red Cross when our home was flooded I can tell you that "posing ala centerfold" with a RC blanket is BEYOND bad taste!
They handle DISASTER relief! This is NOT a cutesy opportunity to show off fake boobs, orange skin, spider leg eyelashes and a bad bleach jobs (teeth & hair) to the USA.
A warm blanket to wrap yourself in is intended to be a source of COMFORT! She should have taken the $$$$ she spent on the PHOTO SHOOT and written a check to the RC!
As a mother who has been through a disastor- I can tell you that I am offended and sickened by her lack of compasion and stupidity! Has she not learned ANYTHING with all she has been exposed to?
A BETTER choice would have been to donate enough money to garner a STACK of blankets- and stand beside them- tastefully dressed- CHECK IN ONE HAND- and A SIGN in the other that read "I HAVE BENEFITED GREATLY FROM THE GENEROSITY OF OTHERS, AND FOR THAT I AM THANKFUL. I AM HAPPY TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE TRULY, TRULY IN NEED BY DONATING MY CHILDREN'S HARD EARNED MONEY TO THE RED CROSS. PLEASE JOIN ME!"
Just when you think she can't stoop any lower, she does. This blog may go on forever! Thank you for allowing me to get this off my chest.
The letter is directly from the red cross.
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Were you able to verify the e-mail address it came from like you did Ashley's?
It would be awesome to prove it to Kate's fans beyond a shadow of a doubt!!
Kate won't be all alone she'll have to dog and maybe the chickens...
THANK U Margaret B 4 ur donation 2 Red Cross in my honor after seeing campaign pic of me on my website!Blessings2U!
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Her ego defies all logic. It just keeps inflating. At what point will it explode? I've never seen anything like it.
Anonymous said... I took a good look at the photo and wanted to throw up!
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Admin, are you allowing annonymous posting again?
Outside looking in...
WHY would any company or charity ( CouponCabin and Red Cross ) want to associate their names and brands and reputations with someone who admitted on national television that 90% of her audience hates her? This is not hearsay...KATE said this herself!
It defies logic and business sense, to me. Whomever is making these decisions to partner with her is clearly sabatoging their company.
Bottom line is, Kate ONLY wants a job that will take her away from her kids for days/weeks on end. Nursing would not do that, that's why she wants no part of it. Nothing in Wernersville/Reading would provide that for her. I bet one of her first questions to C. Cabin before being hired was, "How often will I get to travel?"
Now, I'm not saying women should not have jobs where they travel all the time, but I am saying women who chose to have 8 kids and they are all under 12 and still very needy need to stay their azzes at home and travel later when the kids are grown and gone.
AUDIBLE - I have posted here under Anon as it is one of the profile selections. Have mine been delected? Is this not allowed? Am I missing something? Is there a problem?
Anonymous said... AUDIBLE - I have posted here under Anon as it is one of the profile selections. Have mine been delected? Is this not allowed? Am I missing something? Is there a problem?
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It's not allowed anymore. You can post as anonymous and add your screen name at the beginning or end of the post. According to Admin you can't simply post as anonymous. Look at Rule 1 under "Post a Comment".
How long will this coupon job last her though? It's not like it is in the forefront of the media spectrum. I don't know if it pays hire than say a 9-5 nursing job.
And didn't Jon already file once with her on DWTS that she was being neglectful of her children with traveling back and forth all the time?
We all know deep down that if this were reverse people would be all out of sorts with Jon gone so much...but then again I think they all prefer if he wasn't in the picture at all.
Does this coupon job really take all day to write a blog entry and all that once a month? Is it weekly?
Seems she is happiest away from home. You can see it in pictures on her face. Well, I say, fine, let Kate be miserable. It's her choice.
Post from MaryAnn --
Her tweet, "Sorry guys! I working- and loving it! :) Busy!" Wonder if she sent the same to her kids tonight?
Post from MaryAnn --
Doesn't seem as if she intends to remove the photo. Worse yet...she is going to rub any/all donations "made in her honor" in the face of a huge charitable organization.
Who, exactly, does she think she is.
She obviously plans to take credit for every donation the RC receives from now until the end of time. Did she think we wouldn't notice she thanked the same person twice and is trying to work in the church angle again with the 'blessings' comments?
THANK U Margaret B 4 ur donation 2 Red Cross in my honor after seeing campaign pic of me on my website!Blessings2U! @RedCrossPhilly about 2 hours ago
Thank you Margaret B for your donation to The Red Cross in my honor after seeing campaign pic of me on my website!May u b blessed in return! about 2 hours ago
Evidently, she's in Chicago preparing for an interview re: Coupon Cabin and getting her narcissistic fill-up from real live people.
@MiloandJack @EmCr68 sorry guys! I'm working-- and loving it! :) busy! about 2 hours ago
Administrator:
Couldn't the RC get a temporary injunction which would force her or her PR people to take down the picture? I don't believe her tweets, for every person who donates due to Katie Irene's PETA pose, there's got to be 5-10 people who decide not to donate to them.
What a joke, if she only knew how much her Sheeple are donating in her name. They are as generous as she is.
I would really like to know if this so called director of communications sent out 2 different "canned statements" or did one of sheeple manipulated and made changes to one to attack S. Buddy with. And if they did and posted it to their blog proclaiming it to be the official statement from Red Cross Philly, isn't that libel since the Dave person's email is clearly printed on top? Admin. any thoughts on this?
Susan T., I stopped donating to Red Cross 10 years ago when that independent report came out about how every $1 donated, only $0.39 actually goes to relief aide. Rest is all for running the non-profit. If you google Charity Navigator, it gives you clear breakdown of how the donated money is spent. What a shame, nothing good coming out of Pennsylvania today.
Sam said...I would really like to know if this so called director of communications sent out 2 different "canned statements" or did one of sheeple manipulated and made changes to one to attack S. Buddy with. And if they did and posted it to their blog proclaiming it to be the official statement from Red Cross Philly, isn't that libel since the Dave person's email is clearly printed on top? Admin. any thoughts on this?
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I wasted some time this evening questioning those accusing me of lying, but they couldn't come up with any proof for their false accusations, naturally.
My proof is in the fact that what I wrote in yesterday's article almost mirrors what was in the email today.
A brief explanation to what I mean is here:
<a href="http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474980746281>Kate Gosselin Hears from the Red Cross</a>
Strange. That link looked good in the preview.
Article here:
Kate Hears from the Red Cross
Kate won't be all alone she'll have to dog and maybe the chickens...
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Huh?
Sue Buddy, I saw the same automated email like the one above that a poster at Pressi's site received this evening. I also clicked on the link that they blasted you with and notice the difference.
Spacing on that Sheep's email is totally different than the above & the one over at Pressi's. And the additional wording was a different font style than the original body. This is an automated form email, the fonts don't change half way. This Z-nutter altered the original email and tried to pass it off as authentic. Now they are donating on Kate's honor, pathetic bunch of weirdos.
So she could just take the blanket down until she comes up with a more appropriate photo.
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Wouldn't this be admitting that she made a mistake and is relenting? Would she let someone control her?
Never in a million!
I know Red Cross didn't approve this photo but I will not donate one red cent to any organization that associates with the child exploiting shrew.
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Why penalize an organization that had absolutely nothing to do with the escapades of a narcissist? They did ask her to take it down. What more could they do? She never came out and said that she is an official spokesperson. She was very careful about that. Had she said she is a spokesperson, maybe then they would have grounds to get involved legally.
I would really like to know if this so called director of communications sent out 2 different "canned statements" or did one of sheeple manipulated and made changes to one to attack S. Buddy with. And if they did and posted it to their blog proclaiming it to be the official statement from Red Cross Philly, isn't that libel since the Dave person's email is clearly printed on top?
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The problem here is that until Admin. can prove her letter came from the Red Cross, there is a stalemate.
There must be some way to prove this. Someone mentioned how Ashely's e-mail was proven to be from her so I'm hoping someone can do the same here.
My proof is in the fact that what I wrote in yesterday's article almost mirrors what was in the email today.
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All that really means is that someone could have read your article and copied it in a letter format. Admin??
Who to believe? said...
The problem here is that until Admin. can prove her letter came from the Red Cross, there is a stalemate.
There must be some way to prove this. Someone mentioned how Ashely's e-mail was proven to be from her so I'm hoping someone can do the same here.
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Admin doesn't need to prove a damn thing.
Sam said...
Sue Buddy, I saw the same automated email like the one above that a poster at Pressi's site received this evening. I also clicked on the link that they blasted you with and notice the difference.
Spacing on that Sheep's email is totally different than the above & the one over at Pressi's. And the additional wording was a different font style than the original body. This is an automated form email, the fonts don't change half way. This Z-nutter altered the original email and tried to pass it off as authentic. Now they are donating on Kate's honor, pathetic bunch of weirdos.
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Thanks for the info.
The trouble they go through is mind boggling. Time to let it go for me.
If the article I wrote is generating donations, I'm happy about that. G'night.
Deep In The Heart Of Texas said... Kate won't be all alone she'll have to dog and maybe the chickens...
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Huh?
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People say Kate will end up being alone once the kids grown up. I was being sill saying no she won't since she has the dog and the chickens in the barn. She might not have to kids but she'll have her animals
I'm not surprised at all that Khate is now thanking sheeple for "donating to Red Cross in my honor". Narcissist to the extreme, it still remains all about HER. She just continues to make a fool out of herself every day.
I'm kind of glad that she isn't changing the photo. It works out great that she's away from home and not able to do a new one even if she wanted to. She's only hurt herself because now Red Cross Philly has left her out of their display because they don't like the photo she did. So, I'd say this really backfired on her big time.
Putting the photo aside, I still love the way she really messed up and FAILED to promote this campaign. All she did was put a photo on her barely known website, with a little blurb that explained nothing. She's too lazy, dumb, and unconcerned to even provide a link at her site, let alone tweet about it with proper links and hash tags as some celebrities did. She just SUCKS at everything she does. TLC is probably ecstatic to be rid of her.
Sue Buddy, I'm sorry to see how the sheeple have attacked you. There is just NO reasoning with them, as they have very simple minds incapable of logical reasoning. Their blind allegiance to Khate makes them lie and twist facts to suit their purposes. Thankfully there are fewer than ten of them, and even then, their combined IQ is dangerously low. Great new article, btw.
Admin doesn't need to prove a damn thing.
That's a little dangerous, IMO. I don't believe everything I read with out a reliable source.
This will sound offensive but it is a little ignorant to assume things without a source.
I'm not a sheeple. I don't mean any harm but it's always a good idea not to believe something just because someone says so. Then we WOULD be sheeple. :)
Thankfully there are fewer than ten of them, and even then, their combined IQ is dangerously low.
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What IQ? They have an IQ? Since when?
I haven't checked the sheeple blogs and I don't intend to, but I do know that they love to do screen shots. So, do they have a screen shot of the email they received? If so, why not post that? Better yet, if they really have something they want to prove everyone else wrong on why don't they simply forward the email to Admin? C'mon sheeple, put your money where your mouth is.
Btw sheeple, Admin's email address is linked in Rule #2 below!
gosh it really is all about kate isn't it. she has tweeted like 3 people (copying the red cross) thanking them for donating to the red cross "in her honor" it can't ever be just about the cause for kate and her tweeties. it's always about the ego. well i guess she read here to Promote the cause. so typical lol. i mean she never tweeted once about the red cross until there was controversy. now she is ALL about it.
re couponing: i would love for kate to show us her spreadsheets and coupon books. i hate to be a complainer but her coupon gig annoys me because it's phony. how many times have we seen her waltz in and out of target in her $300 shoes with nary a coupon in sight. now we see her clutching them in her hand and peeing herself over all her savings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kate likes FREE things - but it doesn't make her an expert on how to really save on groceries and household items. i don't do well with "phony". can't she ever just come across as a real genuine person?
also what's up with her every tweet bragging about WORKING!!!!! i think she means TRAVELING!!!! wasn't it only last week she said only a tv job would do. now she is ultra pumped over her coupon gig because it sent her to Chicago. heck she didn't even mention her new job on the view. and why does she have to brag every time she does something? it's always over the top. we get it. your getting paid to do something. ugh
yes im grumpy tonight. i've had some terrible things go on in my personal life and then i see this twit on tv - it would be nice to be so damn oblivious and selfish. i'm "cursed" with compassion and can barely function worrying about a loved one right now. :0(
EM
EM, I'm sorry to hear of your troubles. I hope your loved one is OK.
i truly think kate is not going to take her picture down. instead she is going to prove everyone wrong by proving to red cross HER picture garnered tweetie donations "in her honor" its a big FU to red cross for asking her to take it down. she's gonna show them her picture is the reason they are getting donations. after not saying one peep to help them garner donations on twitter now she is copying them on every tweet she can thanking people for doing it for her all the while knowing they are uncomfortable with the reaction and attention her picture got. this charity does not want controversy and instead of soothing things down kate is trying to keep it fired up.
heck..the red cross twitter feed has had to sort thru tweets using the words cunt, skank, ho, bitch (these are from fans and nonfans arguing)all day. you think kate would be horrified her name brought all that language on. she could have addressed this -apologized for the gaffe, chose a new photo, thanked fans for support and explained to the offended people her intention was never to cause trouble. instead -TA DA. the red cross gets to see kate is all her narcissitic glory. is kate the only celeb who NEVER has to apologize for anything? i cannot think of any other celeb who wouldn't have issued a quick apology for the stir and asked that it not affect the Red Cross in any way for her mistake. it's just common sense PR.
she's an egomaniac
EM
Post from MaryAnn --
Doesn't seem as if she intends to remove the photo. Worse yet...she is going to rub any/all donations "made in her honor" in the face of a huge charitable organization.
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I agree, she won't take the photo down especially now that she's trying to prove that her blog post is actually helping that local Red Cross chapter...by tagging those thank-you tweets to them. What is it...3 so far?
(Reminds me of when TLC canceled Kate Plus 8 and she kept retweeting people's tweets who showed their support...cannot recall if she retweeted them to TLC.)
In her eyes, Kate probably thinks she did the right thing because her fans are now donating to the Red Cross, whereas they wouldn't have if she never mentioned it.
This local chapter supposedly reached out to celebrities from that area, but there are some actual celebrities who have been victims of house-fires who better understand what these families go through, can share their personal experiences, and explain why this Home Fire Relief campaign is so important...Suzanne Somers, Ricky Lake, recently Richard Branson (including guest Kate Winslet), etc.
ok..not sure the coupon blog expected her to yammer on about people thinking she is a "mean, bad mom" while promoting their website on Inside Edition. it always goes back to her and not the JOB she was hired to promote. maybe that is the interviewers fault but i imagine kate gets all questions cleared and approved beforehand. is this the campaign her site had in mind? her personal damage control while promoting their website? heck who knows maybe it was. maybe some people do like the controversy and attention she brings to their product.
EM
fter not saying one peep to help them garner donations on twitter now she is copying them on every tweet she can thanking people for doing it for her all the while knowing they are uncomfortable with the reaction and attention her picture got. this charity does not want controversy and instead of soothing things down kate is trying to keep it fired up.
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This is her typical M.O. Whenever something bad happens F.U. I will do whatever the hell I want and did I mention, FU?
Many people got the same email that was given to me, someone even posted that here. After folks emailed the Red Cross, the Red Cross emailed them back from an official Red Cross email address signed by their official communications director Dave Schrader. I actually gave him a call when I first got the email to verify it, but it went to his voicemail and I didn't leave a message--I didn't want to make him spend time out of his day returning my phone call. But then I received other information other folks were getting the same email, and I was comfortable going with it.
I think it is a shame the Red Cross has to spend one more second on this stupid debacle. Can't the sheeple just accept this? The Red Cross was embarrassed by this and just want it to go away so they can go back to helping people. But, I sent an email to Mr. Schrader tonight, directly to his Red Cross email, asking him to please verify one more time that he did indeed put out that statement. Hopefully he can get to it in the morning, quickly, and move on with his real job. I refuse to do anything more than that. I actually care about the Red Cross, unlike the sheeple who just jump when Kate jumps, and I want them to be left alone about this.
I don't believe everything I read with out a reliable source.
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I wouldn't have posted this if I didn't think that the Red Cross wasn't a reliable source. Not sure what more I can do though. Why doesn't anyone who has questions just call up Dave and ask him? Or, maybe Dave should be left to do his real job. Up to you.
Does anyone honestly think the sheeple are smart enough to compose a letter like this AND somehow fake an official Red Cross email address? I'm sorry, I don't.
maybe the red cross had 2 canned responses. one for supporters of the photo and one that is a little different to the people bothered by it?
just a thought.
as far as red cross having only $0.39 per dollar go to the charity. i think that is good for a nonprofit organization if i am correct. some have as low a $0.05 per dollar. they do have overhead costs associated with their work so i can see that being the result.
it's sad that the Red Cross is being poisoned by kate's toxic "help". but they made their choice, they asked to have the photo taken down. there is really nothing left they can do but ride it out.
i'm so bitter tonight so i shouldn't post so much. i don't know if i'm irritated at what life has thrown at me or if i'm irritated with seeing someone so selfish get to skate thru life with lies. it makes me look like a jellus hater so i'm gonna hang my hat for the night.
EM
Let's be more basic here. Doesn't the Red Cross's refusal to Twitter Kate corroborate their emails and phone call with Sue Buddy?
Emails received in RESPONSE to emails we sent to them? There's just no way to fake that.
I cannot believe the sheeple would go to such lengths as to try to doctor a counter-email. As someone else suggested they may send a friendlier email to people PRO Kate.
That is, by the way, something you could be sued over. Doctoring emails and passing them off as an email from an official organization?? Hello, fraud anyone? Let's hope they got a nicer version of the email if they support Kate and that they're not trying to pass a fake email off as one from the Red Cross. ONe of these days, I swear...
by the way i posted about the other "letter" out of pure ignorance. i have no clue what it said. can anyone enlighten me?
and CALL ME CRAZY - thank you! that was sweet to acknowledge. i didn't realize i may have sounded like a debbie downer when i posted my troubles until i looked at my post and i'm glad you were supportive instead of being put off by it. i needed a little compassion :0)
EM
I have to admit, although I'm sure I'll be attacked for it, that I'm shocked that you ran with this letter before confirming it's source.
I mean, isn't this what the fans do? Make shit up and everyone is supposed to believe them?
This is how terrible rumors are started. I'll be SO happy when the Red cross confirms this letter tomorrow.
Please don't attack me for critical thinking!
This wouldn't be the first time one of the more crazy sheeple made up a complete lie. Fonts changing in the middle of the email? My goodness what sloppiness. This is the same person who has never let up with claiming I used this web site to ask for donations to pay off student debt??? Flat out lie, of course. As anyone, anyone here can attest to, I never asked or received one cent from anyone. Hi, sheeple. Unlike Kate, if I need money? I earn it myself.
"WHY would any company or charity ( CouponCabin and Red Cross ) want to associate their names and brands and reputations with someone who admitted on national television that 90% of her audience hates her?"
That's exactly what I wonder. I figure Australians don't know her as well as Americans so that's why she's with their charity. Plus Terri Irwin seems to be like Kate.
"Now, I'm not saying women should not have jobs where they travel all the time, but I am saying women who chose to have 8 kids and they are all under 12 and still very needy"
Especially when she says she wants to be a stay at home mom(she said the show allowed her to be that), and she pushes the supermom image as her "career".
so right admin. FU and oh did i say FU?!
kate's is such an asshole. how hard is it to suck it up and acknowledge a mistake. it would make her seem a hell of a lot more human instead of turning this debacle into an FU to the organization who thought enough of her originally to ask her to show her support for their cause. she's a PR disaster. well actually not really. her PR agent must have an easy job since kate doesn't DO apologies. just ignore, ignore, ignore and let the sheeple handle it on twitter for her.
so much for hanging my hat tonight lol
EM
Jynx, once I was informed that many people here I have known for a long time got the same exact letter, that WAS a confirmation. Think about it, how could that be faked? There is no way the sheeple could fake a reply that includes the original text of your email!
I'm tired of defending this. I am not going to make the Red Cross jump through hoops when it was an email in response to an email to an official address FROM THAT SAME ADDRESS. I mean really.
When I email Sally, and Sally e-mails me back a short time later from that same address, why in the world would I assume otherwise?
Admin., if Sue Buddy still has the screen shot link, tell her to forward it to you.
It's not that difficult since it's an Auto-Reply by the Red Cross. Anyone can write to them to complain and they will get the same reply as above. With some cutting & pasting or retyping of email address, you got what you need, hence the screen shot. Z-Flo runs her own blog, so she got the basic skills. She was just too stupid to know when you do that, you change the overall layout of the email especially when you copy something from Outlook.
Yes I was given the impression that Red Cross's 30 cents on the dollar or whatever it is is quite high.
There are unfortunately a lot of overheard for an organization this big. People won't work for free, they depend on a ton of volunteers but lots of people need to be paid too. They could cut their overhead, but then they wouldn't be able to DO as much.
The Red Cross put us up in trailers and provided tools and other things we needed. Most volunteers couldn't afford the trip if they had to provide their own accommodations and tools. So they could choose not to accept our group and all that we did to help. Or they could spend some of your money on our expenses. They of course, chose the latter.
It is very hard to run a large charity for free even if no one were taking a salary. It's just the reality. There are lots of small local charities that can be sought out if it's not your cup of tea.
why should we harass Red Cross for more confirmation on their confirmation of the confirmation? i'm sure they are sick of the name kate gosselin. they are not like PETA who thinks ANY publicity is good publicity. we know how the red cross feels. the emails are real IMO. they admit to asking her to "don the blanket", they have received complaints and questions regarding it so when asked they stated and it's their desire to see the photo changed. kate could shut all this down by being gracious about their request. i'm sure non fans would forgive and move on if she just changed the pic and acknowledged it wasn't the best idea. simple. alas..there is a reason kate has "non fans". she's too stubborn to do the right think when presented with an issue. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. no one expect kate to be perfect but most people when they realize they have made a mistake - attempt to fix it. kate turns it into a pissing match every time. what a maroon!
EM
When I email Sally, and Sally e-mails me back a short time later from that same address, why in the world would I assume otherwise?
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I totally understand what you're saying. But why didn't you post the e-mail return address and time it was sent with the letter? That would prove those fans of hers dead wrong.
Unfortunately those who contacted me in previous emails and by phone misrepresented themselves and have since misrepresented what I said. I did mistakenly write that we have asked Ms. Gosselin to take down the photo. We have not. I meant to write we have asked that she submit a different photo for us to use on the phillyhomefire website.
Thanks,
Dave
something seems off about that. i seriously doubt "dave" would make accusations against people "misrepresenting" themselves. i also don't see him confessing to mistakes on his part by saying "i meant to write" this seems so odd. unless Dave's boss is a huge kate fan and demanded he retract his former idea to take the photo down, it's really hard to imagine the wording of that letter being from the Red Cross. am i crazy?
EM
dave now also has poor sentence structure all of a sudden..
It’s about we want the attention to be on the campaign and the wonderful work the Southeastern PA Chapter of the American Red Cross does and the need for that work, and the great support we are receiving, not side issues that only detract from the campaign’s core mission.
so either someone's adding things or dave has been chewed out by the boss to the point where he is now writing statements that don't sound very "official"
im perplexed
EM
I totally understand what you're saying. But why didn't you post the e-mail return address and time it was sent with the letter? That would prove those fans of hers dead wrong.
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Not it wouldn't. They'll say I just typed it out, made it up. It proves nothing. Please leave the Red Cross alone. This is a charity I have been volunteering with since I was 18 years old. I have good friends who are employees there. In fact, a close friend works at another local PA chapter but I refuse to say which one so they won't be harassed. I have spent weeks of my life volunteering with them. Unlike Kate who is just jumping on the flavor of the month, they are sincerely close to my heart. I want them left alone so they can work on the frightening blood shortages and freak snowstorms and other needs.
I'm not sure how that second message contradicts the first one anyway. Other than the rather immature people are misrepresenting themselves. How so? Dave is still saying they don't want that photo. That's the whole point. The Red Cross doesn't approve of this photo.
It doesn't really matter as much whether they want it off her site or not. The point is, they don't approve. And the bigger point is, Kate's reply to this all is basically, um, like, FU.
Well, I hated to do it, but I took a peek. In my earlier post, I asked why the sheeple didn't post a screen shot of their email, but now I see they do. Here's a copy of what they posted:
http://tinypic.com/r/20a8l5v/5
So, I see many differences, as Sam listed above. Also, the email address is NOT a secret, so why did she cover it up? That makes NO sense. Plus, his signature (title - Director of Communications, American Red Cross Southeastern PA Chapter) isn't in his email at the end, just his name. That's odd, because the email is probably set up to automatically add the signature. I doubt he types out his title every time. So, why is it in the email here and at Preesi's site but not in the sheeple email?
You know, it's very simple. If the sheeple REALLY want to prove the authenticity of their email, post a screen shot without the email address hidden and also forward a copy to Admin. Otherwise, just STFU.
One other thing, what is the big effing complaint, anyway? Are they actually claiming that none of "our" emails are authentic? Or are they simply trying to prove that their email is also authentic and Dave mentioned in it that he had people misrepresenting themselves when they called him? What does that even mean? Did someone call and claim to be from a national newspaper or something?? I would think that the callers were just contacting him to make complaints about the photo. So, what "misrepresentation" is that email referring to?
Additionally, if their email is also authentic, Dave says he made a mistake when he spoke to people who complained because he said that the Red Cross asked Khate to remove the photo from her site. In that email he clarifies it and says that they simply requested another photo from Khate. Okay, so what is the sheeple problem there? I don't see how that means any non-fans lied. Dave admits that he misspoke by stating that they asked Khate to remove the photo from her site. He meant to say that they asked Khate for another photo. SO, how do the sheeple think that is good? Don't they realize that that means the Red Cross did NOT approve of Khate's photo for their campaign and won't be using it unless she provides another one?
What the hell are the sheeple arguing here and how in the world do they think that helps Khate?
EM - I agree with you. It struck me as odd that Dave would bother calling out people who contacted him as having "misrepresented" themselves in their emails and phone calls, and that they have since misrepresented what he said to them. Really, how does he know that? He reads the blogs?
I cannot speak for whoever else contacted Dave, but when I emailed Dave, I said I was the owner of this blog and was seeking to do a triple check to verify his email and thanked him for his time. I don't see how that's misrepresentation in the slightest. It's an odd thing to say, but I don't blame the guy, he's probably sick of this crap.
And as far as misrepesenting what he said, I made a point to post the email word for word so there would be no confusion if there ever was. The title itself is a QUOTE.
Good gosh this is out of control.
Also, he doesn't deny that he said they asked Kate to remove the photo. Just that now he says he was mistaken about what was asks of her. I can see how you can be confused, during a stressful day, lots of emails and phone calls flying, over whether the head hanchos had told her they wanted the photo off her web site or just didn't want it to be part of the campaign.
Now I actually think both emails are authentic.
And I still don't get how the sheeple thinks this helps their cause. They really missed the point here. IT's not like he's saying hey sheep we love the photo we never said we didn't!
They are sort of pulling a Kate. Using a minor inconsistency to try to bring the whole house down. That really doesn't work.
Hold the bus a minute. Admin. you sound like you are backtracking here.
Now I'm thinking I would like to see the original e-mailwith the sender/reply info.
I've been reading here a long time and you are always a good fact checker.
Puglover, backtracking on WHAT??? WTF.
This is getting insane. I will wait for Dave to do a triple (or quadruple now?) confirmation of his email in the morning. Even though I'm sure he has far better things to do. And that's all I'm doing. You don't have to believe any of this. But even the sheeple admit the Red Cross takes issue with the photo. If this is keeping you up at night, here is Dave's email and number. Contact him yourself if you're not satisfied.
Dave Schrader
Director, Communications
(215)299-4042
dave.schrader@redcross-philly.org
I'm wondering the the 'anonymous' poster you got this letter with could be Kelly/underwalt.
He's done it before. I think we're all being played now.
Note, The original email has his email address between these things: < however if you try to post that like on blogger it thinks its html and deletes anything inside them.
i dont think it's back tracking. it's just saying "hey, maybe supporters got a different email later in the day". with getting all these calls and emails his days must have been a mess. i'm sure at this point the Red Cross doesn't know how to respond and probably just wish kate would replace the photo and make this all go away. they WANT it replaced no matter which email you read that is the message you get - so why not just replace it? why ignore a nice organizations request to help correct a situation that they are uncomfortable with. i'm sure the Red Cross doesn't deal with these types of issues often and Dave's head must be spinning.
EM
Anonymous, I don't get what people are not understanding about this.
SEVERAL people, including some long time posters on here, emailed the Red Cross directly. Several people, including some on here, received an email directly BACK from the Red Cross.
How could Walt possibly infiltrate that. An email between Sally and Jimmy cannot be infiltrated by Kenny if he has no idea it's going on until after the fact. How could he possibly know who has emailed the Red Cross, what their email was, and who to reply back to?
The level of paranoia tonight is a little over the top. No offense!
Exactly, EM. They don't know what to do, they have a communications director for a SMALL Red Cross chapter who has likely never had to deal with a serious PR nightmare. He flew out an email early in the morning that had a typo or two in it. When he further clarified with other employees what was going on, he realized he made a small error in what was asked of Kate, and flew out another one.
You can't see the font, but in the original email I got? The font he uses for his signature is the same blue font and typeface in the one he sent to the sheeple. I think he copied and pasted their mission statement about the program, which was in one font, and then popped back into his signature font to write his own two cents.
His emails to me, sound like a PR person dealing with their first crisis. In other words, they sound normal to me. There is no big conspiracy here that I can tell. I appreciate people being skeptical but this is over the top. Even the sheeple admit the RX doesn't like the photo.
I agree, Admin, this is beyond insane. I hate to admit it, but I think we all fell into the sheeple trap of deflect, accuse, confuse, and deflect some more. They're just doing all this in effort to deflect from Khate's foolish choice of a photo and her lack of providing any promotion for the campaign, like some celebrities did.
I think there is a very good chance that all the emails are in fact legitimate. In the email posted above, Dave said:
We have since asked her to choose a different photo to post on her website and are awaiting her response.
Why would they be awaiting her response about her own website? More likely, he did err in his wording and meant to say our website. Simple, one word was wrong. He probably meant that they requested a new photo from Khate for their website and were waiting for it. I think in getting this campaign ready to launch, they were far more concerned with THEIR website and the photos they were adding to it, not Khate's website!
Like you said, Admin, the point is that Khate's photo was REJECTED by Red Cross Philly. So, again, why are the sheeple so happy about that?
You see, this is why I don't go to sheeple blogs. It's like wading through a cesspool of stupidity, confusion, and insanity. I urge you all to stay away, because brain cells are probably lost on every visit over there.
Narcissists, I agree. It makes total sense. In the midst of a PR crisis when adrenaline is high, this happens all the time.
Dave probably had an email or phone call from the boss in which it was said that there was no way they were approving this disgraceful photo for the web site and we've asked her to shoot a different one. Dave interpreted that to mean, as any reasonable person might, KATE'S web site. Dave responded to some emails from people like us with the information that he thought was correct. Later today, Dave found out from boss that they really weren't going to interfere so much with Kate's personal web site, they meant they didn't want her photo a part of the Red Cross web site. So
Dave clarified his point. We don't like the photo, but we just don't want it on OUR web site. Kate can do what she wants on her web site (which frankly, is rather generous of them.)
His emails are both consistent with each other. One makes one point, the other clarifies the point.
It all smells just fine to me. No alarm bells going off here. And believe me those alarms will sound at the tiniest little movement!
Like you said, Admin, the point is that Khate's photo was REJECTED by Red Cross Philly. So, again, why are the sheeple so happy about that?
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Because they attend the school of Kate. If you can prove one teeny tiny insignificant to the main point fact wrong? You rest your case.
And by the way to the person who suggested I'm backpedaling, after I actually READ the sheeple's screenshot of the email which was just posted, was when I changed my mind and said wait a minute I think both emails are real. That is not backpedaling. That's called getting more information.
last comment on this dead horse.
why would sheeple be in a huff about the original reaction to dave's 1st email that this blog posted? the sheep letter they received said people misrepresented something HE says he mistakenly wrote. of course it would be "misrepresented" if he wrote something "mistakenly."
he does state in that letter they gave celebs leeway with photos but asked they be appropriate. so with that being said..if he got comments about the photo not being appropriate to some folks one would assume LIKE HE SAID that they wish the photo would be changed.
we are down to semantics now. take down/change photo. in the end..they said they requested a new photo so obviously they are uncomfortable with the photo that is currently up. will some people think it's unfair to kate? SURE. but if someone donates to Red Cross and expressed they thought it wasn't appropriate then the conservative red cross would want it changed out of respect to the people it bothered. can you please everyone? NO - did kate maybe not realize it would bother people? SURE
but now we are at a point that we know it did. so ..easy solution..change the photo out of respect for the Red Cross so they can get back to work and out of kate's PR mess.
does that make any sense?
EM
If you look at how real celebs or high profile organizations handle a PR crisis? They try to make it go away as quickly as possible.
Hey, maybe the Red Cross is "wrong" on this in your opinion. Surely Kate feels they are wrong. But it kind of doesn't matter when handling a PR nightmare. It matters how fast you can put it to bed.
The goal of handling a PR nightmare is to make it go away as SOON...AS....POSSIBLE. Which is why, in big PR nightmares, sometimes the salutation is to just fire everyone you can and start over. Sigh, hate to bring it up, but that's what Penn State is doing as we speak. Fire, fire, let go, fire. Because that's the school of thought for many PR people. Get rid of this and FAST. Get rid of anything that had to do with this and FAST.
A typical by the book PR person, if handling this crisis, would do this. The second the Red Cross tells Kate they don't like the photo, TAKE IT DOWN. Just take it down. Pretend it never happened, get rid of it, destroy it. Distract with a new unrelated blog post and move on as quickly as possible in the hopes people will forget.
The last thing you do is leave the photo up and create as much controversy as possible!
Think about it, would we really still be talking about this if Kate took the photo down right away? I mean, what could we say about it? The Red Cross asked her to do something and she did it--not much of a story.
The story here? Is the F.U. part of this. That's the story. ANd that's what is going to keep this going at least a little longer. Maybe a lot longer.
I could have sworn when you posted that e-mail above you said it was from someone who wanted to stay anonymous.
I believe that's where the confusion lay.
The admin ran with a letter that was sent to her anonymously and someone thought she had not checked the facts.
I must be losing it. Sorry if I'm wrong. Wonder wht poor Dave will say tomorrow!
exactly. most people would take it down..whether silently or with a simple apology stating you are sorry this caused and issue and want to correct the problem right away so that the red cross can get back to helping others. simple. easy.
but nooooooooo
it's turns into an FU. this is exactly like the 100mph situation where kate was called out for being unsafe on the roads. a normal person would state they are embarrassed and the realize it is a serious concern. but kate..she runs with it - tweeting for days about hoping her sick tweeting are getting back to 100mph soon. she says her day was busy and she was going 100mpr in life. on and on it went.
no we have this. why make it go on an on except to prove a point. kate has to WIN and be RIGHT instead of just conceding to a faux pax. it happens..instead of using it to bump her attention fix she should WANT to undo a situation that is stressing the Red Cross out out of COURTESY to their organization and to anyone who was bothered by it. she should WANT them to get back to a normal day but you just know she thrives on knowing she has caused a stir.
what a pain in the ass this whole thing has become.
EM
lots of typos but u get the point
i meant tweeting to tweeties she hopes they are back up to 100mpr soon instead of saying - hope you get well soon. just typical obnoxious kate refusing to ever say - oops i was wrong. her inability to do that will prevent her from obtaining the more high profile gigs. high profile gigs need to know you aren't going to do something stupid and refuse to correct it. she shoots herself in the foot by trying to WIN every situation.
EM
why BE right..when you could DO what is right.
btw..sheep think red cross owes KATE an apology. so now some are saying they won't donate because of the red crosses treatment of kate by asking her to change the pic. whoever said the sheep would make this the red crosses fault nailed it.
poor red cross. kate could have stopped this and asked her sheep to respect her decision to change the pic. now she has some people who didn't like the photo saying they wont donate and others saying they wont donate because the red cross owes kate an apology.
its a lose/lose for everyone!
wow - and people wonder why kate is considered polarizing.
EM
puglover, here's what happened.
A reader, NOT anonymous to me, sent me her exchange with Dave. I was skeptical and looked up Dave's number and called him. The call went to voicemail, I decided to hang up and not bother the guy and allow him to do his work and not this crap. However, shortly after this, I heard from other readers I have known a long time who had emailed the Red Cross that they got a message back from this same guy named Dave, same message. Given that everyone was getting this form message directly back from the Red X, I felt that was plenty enough to verify this was real. Then, several hours later, a regular at Preesi's popped up to say she TOO got this same form letter after emailing the Red X, and incidentally, so did a Twit's Tweets here. Two more people to add to the list of people who got it who had emailed them. By that time I was pretty much 100% sure this was legit and moved on to the next thing. Nonetheless, later in the day after a few people continued to insist on questioning it, I decided to email Dave myself just to check one last time. Of course being on West Cost time this was long after East Coast business hours, and I don't expect a reply until the morning. Even that makes me annoyed because they shouldn't be wasting their time on this.
Ok, if Kate is going to be on WGN news in the morning, it will be before 9am, cause at 8am central time not eastern time, which would be 9am, cause at 9am Chicago time(which is central time), Regis & Kelly is on. WGN morning news starts at 4:30am to 9am. The only station that has news on at 9am is Fox. I don't watch WGN.
OT, but they are contacting local celebrities for photos to help the RC, I wonder if they sent Taylor Swift one and if she concurred. I saw Kevin Bacon and the other girl's pic. But just wondered about Taylor.
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