It may be a campy cult classic, but many celebrities have had fans with fatal attractions. Kate tweeted this today: FYI-getting a lot of emails thinking I'm ignoring/forgetting u all. I'm doing my best 2 read&respond.Pls b patient w/ this busy girl!XO2all
Uh oh. Has she thought about the many other celebs who have experienced serious, sometimes even deadly problems with their fans? Here are just a few.
2. Selena's death. Yolanda SaldÃvar was president of Selena's fan club and worked her way up to managing Selena's clothing stores. Selena's designer quit because of Saldivar, calling her "possessive." When Salvdivar was accused of embezzling money, she fatally shot Selena in 1995.
3. Jodi Foster's stalker. In 1980, Ronald Reagan was almost killed by John Hinckley Jr., Jodi Foster's stalker. Foster spoke with Hinckley on the phone a few times when he called. "Over the past seven months I've left you dozens of poems, letters and love messages in the faint hope that you could develop an interest in me," Hinckley wrote in a letter to Foster just before the shooting. Foster has had at least two other stalkers since Hinckley.
4. Rebecca Schaefer's death. Robert John Bardo wrote letters to Schaefer for three years, showed up on the set of My Sister Sam, and sleuthed out Schaefer's private address through DMV records before shooting her at her front door. (After her death, the CA DMV changed its privacy laws).
6. Sheryl Crow's stalker. One of her fans said that the singer was his "spiritual twin" and said they were "spiritually connected." Ambrose Kappos was arrested in 2003 after hopping into Crow's limo.
7. Gweneth Paltrow. Dante Michael Soiu showed up at her parents' house numerous times (where she often stayed), and sent the actress countless packages and letters. The FBI had to get involved. “I am more than a fan,” he said in one letter. “I have formed a soul union with you.” He was convicted in 2000.
Maybe it's time Kate get off Twitter.
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There's one more that belongs at the top of the list, Rebecca Schaeffer. She was stabbed to death by an obsessive fan. This, I think, is the scariest of obsessed fan stories. Really shook up LA when it happened.
Oh my gosh yes, adding her now! RIP.
Oops, I mean she was shot to death. My bad.
I just read up on Rebecca Schaeffer's death. The guy came to her house the first time, spoke with her, she turned him away and he went to get something to eat. He later returned a second time with a gun.
I wish she hadn't answered the door a second time. :-(
There was fascinating to read up on. especially the Gweneth Paltrow link, check that out if you're interested. Also, I thought the Catherine Zeta Jones one was quite creepy even though no one was hurt--because it reminds me of how much the fans hate Jon and just wish he was out of Kate's hair. They probably think only then can the kids be truly happy.
This is the one post I hope Kate really does see. Read it, Kate. Slowly.
Hmm KG crazy fans and yet no stalker. I guess Steve is still going through her e-mails for her
The only reason her fans are not yet stalkers is because of Kate. Stalking is in the eye of the beholder. Kate wants the attention. The second Kate doesn't want to get these tweets, packages, letters, creepy videos, emails, it becomes unwanted attention and stalking. This could take a turn for the worse just like that.
Essentially this contact is nearly identical to Gweneth Paltrow's stalker with all the packages sent to the house, etc. Right down to talking to her mother. Gweneth Paltrow's fan met with Blythe just like the fans allegedly met with Kate's mother. Only difference is Gweneth and her mother and family recognized it for how creepy it really is.
Admin -- One more to add to your list. Actress Teresa Saldana was stabbed repeatedly and nearly killed by an obsessed fan, who said God told him to kill her.
Scary list, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. Kate can grift and beg and tweet and email all she wants and I don't care. When she endangers the safety of her 8, count 'em, 8 children, we should all care.
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I think Kate would be flattered to be stalked like that by a fan. It would bring her attention.
"Please be patient with this busy girl"
~ translated means: "Please keep giving me all the attention you possibly can, and then some! I need tv execs to see I'm in high demand on Twitter!!!!
I think this is part of why she leads her fans on, calls them friends, invites them to come see her if they live in another country ( thinking they won't ). She knows it plays with their little heads and keeps them continually tweeting to her....and she hopes some tv exec will notice.
There are many other celebs with serious stalkers I left out: Conan OBrien and David Letterman.
There are just too many to list them all here--proof this is not a rare occurrence, but rather happens all the time.
Kate is truly playing with fire, and, yo know I think she enjoys it.
Back on her show, she said she ignores fans, ignores people in general. She has called the press rude and intrusive.
Then she'd turn right around and say the show is nothing without the fans, the fans are what keep the show going.
Truth is: Kate needs the fans to feel important. She needs someone to feed off of. Comes to mind somewhat of a classical abuser in the way when that person or object no longer gives them pleasure, they dispose of them and move onto something else reminds me of Jon. But it also fits her narcissistic profile as well.
To Kate that as long as she has Steve I don't think she sees the danger or the problem she herself has created. To her Twittering and email is something you do online and that it will never hit home until someone shows up.
But haven't people already once loitered outside her home at their fence? Creepy. Why are people so obsessed with this family and these kids? I just don't get it.
And this Milo person....
VERY VERY VERY creepy and obsessed and totally asks very personal/inappropriate questions almost everyday.
THAT would be one of the fans I'd sloooowly back away from, stat.
This is the one post I hope Kate really does see. Read it, Kate. Slowly.
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I was just about to write the same thing. She may see it, but will she heed it? Doubtful. But at least you put it out there. There are some mighty creepy fans on Twitter. Could this happen to her? Yes, indeed. She claims to have excellent security, but purses held by flip-flop guards don't stop bullets or knives.
And this Milo person....
VERY VERY VERY creepy and obsessed and totally asks very personal/inappropriate questions almost everyday.
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...and the thing is, nobody REALLY knows anything about this Milo person. As someone pointed out some time ago, it could be a 300-pound male ex-Marine posting under the guise of a frail Hausfrau. And yet, Kate engages her/him. Milo asked for photos of Kate bouncing around in the bouncy thing. How creepy is that?
Heh, excellent security. The secret service for Ronald Reagan was excellent too.
I think at this point the only thing that's going to get Kate off Twitter is to tell her it makes her look fat.
You know what else I find absurd? That the only people concerned about Kate are the non-fans.
The NON-fans said over and over these kids are at risk to pedophiles. Sure enough, along comes Bill Blankinship. The non-fans are also the only ones who seem to be concerned about her interactions with her fans. Everyone her fans say hate Kate are the only ones who are being serious about this woman's safety--not to mention the kids'.
Selena gave her murderer more and more access to her. Her murderer approached HER, she didn't seek her out, and offered to run her fan club. She infiltrated her way closer and closer to her until she was controlling her finances.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Khate! Your idiocy is now getting you in REAL BIG trouble with your twitter fans. You are such a fame-whoring MORON. I have NO PITY for her. Let Katie Irene Kreider Go$$elin's story be a cautionary tale for any future fame-mongers of her ilk.
The kids' film footage has already been exposed to a pedophile at TLC.
People know where she lives, where the children attend school, and their school schedule.
Crazy fans tweet her obsessively.
Wake up Kate. Shut down that Twitter feed! Get back to a normal life in your community. Your TV career is over.
Also to add to the list: David Letterman has a stalker named Margaret Mary Ray (she later committed suicide).
Pamela Anderson, the stalker showed up at her son's school.
Erin Andrews her stalker made a video of her through the peep hole in her hotel.
I agree that Kate encouraging her fan base to feel more like a friend rather than a fan is very dangerous and probably most are harmless, but all it takes is just for one emotionally disturbed person for this to turn into a very bad situation.
Kate has tweeted that they are her friends, “virtual”, but still friends. She allows them to call her momma-G. She accepts gifts from them. She has invited a young girl, who lives in Ireland, to come babysit the kids. She gives out an address (probably her PO Box) for her fans to send books to be autographed, but this also encourages the fans to mail her gifts. One of her younger fans that lives in Canada, won a prize in her contest. There was a return address, phone number written on the package. This fan had her friend call the number hoping it was Kate’s private number. It turned out to be Steve’s. A fan picked up cereal for her that was on sale, and made plans to meet. I’m not sure if they ever did or not, but I remember this person tweeting Kate constantly on picking a date.
They make tribute videos of Kate and the kids. They feel because the children have grown up on television, that they know them. Now that the show is over, Kate is still sharing personal details of the children’s lives.
Where does Kate draw the line? Will is take something bad to happen before she understands how dangerous her behavior on Twitter has become.
She tweets when she is home, when the children are at their father’s. Anyone watching the episode where they move into the new house, will know the layout of the house. She has posted that the door to the family room isn’t working and Shoka knows how to open it.
If she thinks that because there is an alarm system installed or that Steve is on the property that she and the children are safe, she is sadly mistaken.
The Pamela Anderson stalker incident is personal to me. The children I nannied for went to that same school at the same time. I can't describe the fear it creates and you when you're supposed to be those children's protector and there's some creep on the loose showing up at their school. And the school is very open and unprotected even though they have many celeb kids. You can just drive right up and walk in. It felt very exposed.
There's just too many incidents like this to include here. It's scary.
By the way I think it's to Pam Andersen's credit she kept the boys in that school and trusted the school to handle it. She didn't freak out and put them in a gated private school somewhere. She handled it quietly and maturely and didn't create a bunch of drama and embarrass the kids. It's a public school, probably needs a good renovation, looks like any other public school in any mediocre area. Slumming it with the mediocre.
Let's not forget the obseesed fan of Bjork who sent her an acid bomb as a gift in the mail with the intention of killing her. Luckily the man had detailed his intentions in a video diary before killing himself (on camera!!!) and the police were able to intercept the package before it reached Bjork. He said it was so they could be together after death. I saw a portion of the video on youtube - very creepy stuff.
She should NOT be encouraging these gifts as she has NO idea what's in them. As much as I don't like Kate Gosselin, it would be an absolute tragedy if she were harmed in any way. I'm sure we all agree on that.
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Milo asked for photos of Kate bouncing around in the bouncy thing. How creepy is that?
December 31, 2011 1:04 PM
Aaaaaaand he/she once wanted to know what Kate was wearing one day! Now that is just beyond obsessed.
He/she wants to know what Kate will be eating, what her plans are ~ totally inappropriate questions to be asking someone they have never met.
I bet you a dollar and a donut that this Milo character has listed Kate as "in case of emergency, contact ______", and put Kate's twitter address for the phone number.
Pam said... 13
And this Milo person....
VERY VERY VERY creepy and obsessed and totally asks very personal/inappropriate questions almost everyday.
THAT would be one of the fans I'd sloooowly back away from, stat.
December 31, 2011 12:59 PM
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I remember one of the sheeple was kept in the dark about the show being cancelled while she was in the hospital. Her husband kept it from her for something like two weeks. Is this the same one?
WAKE UP KATE! Some of these fans are way too emotionally invested in the lives of you and your children.
The Six Stages of Stalking
Stage 1 - The persistent ex, or the persistent suitor
The person keeps trying to arrange contact or have conversations with you, even though you feel there is no longer any point.
By itself, this is rarely considered stalking; most people view this as a person simply trying to get a date or patch up a relationship. At stage 1, the victim rarely realizes that this is going to become an escalating problem.
Stage 2 - Uncomfortable contact, interference
The person keeps trying to arrange contact or have conversations with you or gather information about you -- even though the events are now making you feel profoundly uncomfortable. The person's persistence seems a bit "crazy" and although they are not physically demonstrative, their behavior seems somehow "scary" to you anyway. This may be the stage where you realize this person has become a stalker.
During contact they don't seem self-conscious; they don't seem to realize that they're behaving bizarrely. If others witness these events, the behavior seems irrational to them. (Some clueless persons will think you're the one being irrational, for being disturbed by the stalker. Don't let outsiders tell you how to feel or not feel!)
Interference is any contact or activity that they engage in with others, which disturbs your right to live your life without interference. It includes their distributing private information about you to other people, contacting other people to try to have discussions about you, etc.
Stage 3 - Intimidating contact, implied threats, illegal interference
This is the stage at which it becomes obvious that it's a stalking situation, even if you or your friends had been trying to believe that it wasn't.
Contact attempts now include veiled threats and/or physical aggression. A veiled threat is something like "you'll be sorry" -- it is not the same thing as an outright threat such as "I'm going to hit you." Physical aggression includes trying to stand in your way, blocking your path, walking toward you while yelling -- it is not the same thing as physical contact (violence).
Illegal interference includes slander, libel, blackmail, distributing photos of you when they don't have a legal model release, etc.
Make sure you have thorough documentation of any stage 1 or stage 2 behavior, and when you get a stage 3 occurrence, call the police to file a report.
Stage 4 - Threats
Clearly stated threats of what they would like to do, or what they intend to do.
Stage 5 - Aggression or violence toward inanimate objects
Vandalism or destruction of your belongings, your environment, etc.
Stage 6 - Aggression or violence toward live creatures
Violence toward yourself, those around you, your pets, or animals in your environment. Abduction, assault, etc.
Here's the link http://www.lilaclane.com/being-stalked/stages.html
This is scary stuff. Kate needs to be careful.
Halle Berry was also the victim of a stalker who jumped over the back wall of her house in view of surveillance cameras and was met by her private security team. He was arrested on suspicion of felony stalking after allegedly lurking around the Academy Award winning star's home that weekend. Would Steve be on hand to stop an intruder?
Here's a good list of celebrities who have been victims:
www.ctv.ca/gallery/html/celeb_stalkers_20090403/photo_0.html
Another fan I'd watch out for is bigfanofkateg (sp?). She seems to ocillate from adoration to anger in an instant. Obviously not all her fans are crazy, but some of them should be on her "security teams'" watchlist.
I remember one of the sheeple was kept in the dark about the show being cancelled while she was in the hospital. Her husband kept it from her for something like two weeks. Is this the same one?
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Yes, done and done. That's the one. I'd put that one first on my list of fans to avoid at all costs. I also think that BigFan is very strange, and since she lives so close to Kate, and admitted to going to the same grocery store where Kate shops, that she would probably be #2 on my list. We haven't heard too much of her lately since she changes sides so frequently from obsessed fan to total hater, and then back again. That's the one who tweeted to Kate that she had trouble pooping, she was having cramps during her period, that her roommate was in the bathroom when she had to pee, and that she was in a car in the mall parking lot during a storm and she wanted to know if she could get electrocuted. She was begging, literally begging Kate to shop with her, and for Kate to come to her house, and vice-versa. Truly bizarre.
Where is the Cereal Stalker these days? Nothing from her since her friend was arrested on child porn charges. That was another scary obsessed fan.
Done and done said... 29
Another fan I'd watch out for is bigfanofkateg (sp?). She seems to ocillate from adoration to anger in an instant. Obviously not all her fans are crazy, but some of them should be on her "security teams'" watchlist.
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LOL! I just posted the same thing - was typing while you were posting! I think that she goes by bigfanofkateg - she's changed names several times, depending on whether she's a lover of Kate, or a hater.
Apparently Milo has to have the lights out by 11 p.m., her husband (or his husband) is the lights out man. She (or he) just tweeted to Kate:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 I'm lookin 4U a "lights out" man! But U have 2promise 2comply! LOL
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 We don't want U lookin hurried, harried & horrendous...,we want our Kate lookin k-ute, k-ool and k-ontented! LOL
Fired Up 4 Kate
MiloandJack Fired Up 4 Kate
@Kateplusmy8 Always take care of U...and ur 8 first! We love you & want U 2b healthy&happy always!
Fired Up 4 Kate
MiloandJack Fired Up 4 Kate
@Kateplusmy8 U are enormously generous w/ur time&attn...2even acknowledge us! U amaze me w/ur approachableness&kindness 2us all! :)
@Kateplusmy8 I keep tell ya...U need 2enlist me as ur "assistant"! I can aggravate & take care of issues all at one time! :)
MiloandJack Fired Up 4 Kate
@Kateplusmy8 LOL....We all want 2b on ur "2do list"! U take ur time dear friend!
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OUR Kate? Dear friend? We love you? We want to be on your to-do list? Geez...
Based on this person's Twitter behavior over the past few months, this sheeple appears to be at Stage 2 on the list that Amy2...27 posted.
Why have a bodyguard? Duh....he's not. Stalkers = Publicity. That's why she leads them on. Idiot.
Why have a bodyguard? Duh....he's not. Stalkers = Publicity. That's why she leads them on. Idiot.
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I think she loves the adoration more than she has a protection instinct for herself. She cares about being loved more than being safe. I think she KNOWS fans could be unsafe, but is willing to push the outer limits as long as the tradeoff is feed for the narcissism. Shows exactly where her priorities are.
@Kateplusmy8 I keep tell ya...U need 2enlist me as ur "assistant"! I can aggravate & take care of issues all at one time! :)
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Selena. Her murderer kept trying to work for Selena until her dad relented.
Well all know that Kate that one man security guard or body guard is tip top. If she was ever in harms way he could keep her safe with.
Since he has all the things to protect her with oh wait he has nothing. I hope he know how to fight.
Selena. Her murderer kept trying to work for Selena until her dad relented.
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Bigfan did the same thing...wanted to clean Kate's house, be her assistant, work for her, babysit the kids.
Kate has allowed this to go on much too long and getting out of this mess is going to be difficult. Is it actually "safer" to moderately tweet these people, gradually making less and less Twitter appearances, until finally her Twitter page is closed, OR make a clean immediate break?
I keep thinking of the "I'm not going to be ignored" threat.
we all know that steve is NOT an actual bodyguard, he is there for the prestige her having him there creates in her mind.
she's her own worst fan. if it were me, that's who I'd be afraid of since she can do herself the most harm of all.
Haven't been commenting much but I'm still reading. As long as she continues to put her children in the public eye, it matters.
Thanks for the shout out Jude.
I want to wish you all a Happy New Year. To barbee and the rest of you, I send some virtual champagne and best wishes.
barbee...39 - she's her own worst fan. if it were me, that's who I'd be afraid of since she can do herself the most harm of all.
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Yes, emotionally that's correct. She's done all of this to herself and could end up a lonely, bitter person. However, she's not in danger from herself in that she's not going to go after herself with a gun or a knife.
The stalkers listed on this thread have either injured the celebrities, or the worst case scenario, have actually killed them. That's why she needs to be afraid...for herself, and for her children. It's the physical violence that could take place if a fan is shunned or ignored. Nobody can prevent what Kate does to herself in regard to her emotional health, but nobody wants to see physical injury come to her because she had led these sheeple to believe that they are friends. She actually tweeted this to sheeple - that they are her friends. Scary stuff. She's invited them into her private space, and I don't think they are going to be anxious to leave, and when they do, I'm afraid that they will do it kicking and screaming. That's when there could be trouble.
Thanks so much for posting this. I've been tweeting this kind of stuff for a while.
Kate seems to encourage/invite the crazy. Especially people like Milo, who are fishing for an invite to be in the house and with the kids.
Not one REAL celeb - Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, Oprah, etc, etc, etc... have the interactions that she does with her tweet fans. Of course, REAL celebs have millions of twt fans - not multiple accounts from sheeple who want to encourage them every day. I'm making myself sound old when I say this, but "back in my day" if you wanted to write a fan letter to a celeb, you had to go to the studio or publicity office. The reason for that is, I believe, safety - getting random letters from people who think they have a true connection with you because they see you on their tv is unwise. What would happen if Kate opened a letter or gift and some white powder fell out? It could be nothing, but would she really want to take that chance? She would have to her entire house decontaminated, toss any food, and oh yeah, the kids may be affected too.
Nobody accepts gifts the way Kate does, ditto reason above. What about some poisoned food? Even if she doesn't eat it and tosses it in the trash, she is still encouraging the crazy.
Kate is desperate for ANY kind of attention, and truly encourages a relationship with her fans - tweeting "so whats new" blah blah....Kate, ask that of your kids, Kevin, or call your mother and ask her. I don't know how old your parents are, but I'm assuming they are late 70s.....time goes by fast. I'd sell a lung to talk to my dad again...he passed away 4 years ago and I still cry when I think of him.
Kate - I know you read this....please, close Twitter and your Webpage. Nobody REALLY cares about what you do. You will never, ever, ever be a talk show host. You have no talent, and you need to focus on raising those 8 blessings you claim to love. If you had a difficult childhood, get professional help. Please, for yourself and your kids. There are so many crazies out there, and you are playing a very dangerous game to keep engaging in conversations with people. Be a mom, focus on your kids, not finding a boyfriend or the next marathon. Dress like a 36 year old mother of 8, not like a 25 year old hooker who has been working the same streetcorner for the past 8 years.
Thanks for the info, and thanks for letting me vent. I hope Kate wises up and realizes that she has to stop playing with her imaginary friends.....please Kate, before one of the kids gets hurt.
She's invited them into her private space, and I don't think they are going to be anxious to leave, and when they do, I'm afraid that they will do it kicking and screaming.
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Your comment got me thinking. I wonder if she really doesn't realize that this IS her (and the kids' private space, since it is not face-to-face. I think she has compartmentalized a lot of things. When the compartments in her mind are crossed, she cannot cope. Lots of examples come to mind.
For the record, she is NOT on the Autism
Spectrum.
Even if these sheeple are all harmless, it's pathetic the way they have been emailing Khate lately and nagging her for replies. They beg for her attention even when the kids are there. When Milo and some other sheeple kept asking Khate if they got their emails (that they kept re-sending), a few non-fans tweeted the sheeple back that they KNOW the kids are home on school break, so why do they keep demanding her attention? If they really cared about the kids, they would encourage Khate to spend this two week break focusing on them (for a change). Instead, they are in love with Khate and actually see the kids as competition for her time. It's really sick.
We all know that Khate's using Twitter to fill up her empty, narcissistic soul. She no longer has a TV show, so she misses parading around with a film crew, and she bitterly misses going on the "press tours" to promote the episodes and talk about ME, ME, ME. So, she needs Twitter because she is so desperate for the attention and adulation.
I truly believe that Khate would LOVE a small incident to occur so she could get her name in the headlines. No, I'm not saying any physical harm, or violence, but I do think that if some sheeple/stalker just crossed the line and went a bit too far, Khate would immediately try to get herself booked on all the shows to talk about it and she'd love it.
Kate re-tweeted someone who tweeted about a father who was concerned about his children's mother marrying a convicted felon. On the other thread, admin commented that this father could seek out legal remedies to protect his children. When Kate read the tweet, she answered with a WOW. It was a petition to the parole board for parole to be denied for the prisoner.
Apparently Kate did not sign the petition, and non-fans on Twitter are commenting about it:
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@Kateplusmy8 @nhotwater Notice all Kate said was "WOW" She didn't say she signed the petition....bet she didn't. She doesn't give a shit
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@Kateplusmy8 @nhotwater Of course, they didn't offer Kate any $$$$ to sign, so why should she bother? It's not HER problem
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@Kateplusmy8 @nhotwater Notice that Kate DID NOT SIGN the petition--- the signers' states & some names are displayed on the site...No KATE
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@EmeraldCityJazz @Kateplusmy8 @nhotwater well if it doesn't involve kate krieder then itt is no use or interest to her.
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I thought some of these people were smarter than this. Of course she didn't sign it. You don't sign a petition on the internet for something you know nothing about! In Kate's defense, she's right. Why in the world would she become involved in something like this? Any time your name is attached to a petition like this, it could come back to haunt you.
I'm actually defending her. Time for a NYE drink!
NLAN said,
I truly believe that Khate would LOVE a small incident to occur so she could get her name in the headlines. No, I'm not saying any physical harm, or violence, but I do think that if some sheeple/stalker just crossed the line and went a bit too far, Khate would immediately try to get herself booked on all the shows to talk about it and she'd love it.
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Interesting. Sad, but true. I'm not so sure, though, that something really actually must happen. She's great at inventing stories. If she were this desperate, she could come up with a phantom stalker, and book herself on talk shows. She'd have to keep her story straight, though, and she's really not very good at that!
Perhaps if there is some issue with stalkers and safety Jon could legally step in. She sure is not thinking clearly. Scary. Woud hate for there to be an incident so she can get her name on the talk shows, but I don't put anything past her. She is obviously without the counsel of family otherwise why engage strangers with personal information. Jon needs to step in to protect those kids. These strangers know where she lives, where the kids go to school, etc. This is her fault. The bodyguard is a fake. She needs to keep her life private. Period.
Hey, remember that deranged guy who showed up at Discovery headquarters last year and held hostages? He wrote some creepy manifesto even mentioning some of their reality programming. It was a wonder he didn't hurt anyone.
What will it take to get Kate to take these dangers seriously???
Although I don't comment often, I just want to wish Admin and all the regular posters on this blog, a very Happy New Year!!
I hope the New Year will bring peace and good health to everyone here.
I also hope that the New Year will bring peace and happiness to the Gosselin kids.
You know what there are so many incidents that probably don't even get reported.
For instance, a fan showing up at the door demanding to see the celeb. I know of an incident like this firsthand. The cops were never called and the fan was never seen again. That one knew how to accept no. The next one might not.
I think Kate would LOVE to have an incident....even if she had to arrange it herself.
We know she reads here....let's not give her any ideas!
And if should anything actually happen and go wrong, a fan whose gone off their rocker, stalking or whatever I can just hear Kate state that she never imagined things could go so wrong. It won't be her fault, somehow, someway Kate won't find blame with herself. She'll blame it on "the people who are unstable, her security team," Who knows maybe even Jon since she blames him for not willing to provide for her "her kids" at his mediocre job.
No, Kate, go ahead and think this and doing everything but giving people a key to your front door will never take a possible wrong turn.
She really needs to work on boundary issues, how to deal with unwanted attention and find another way to deal with issues other than, "Set the record straight." That statement to me has lost all meaning at the moment. Her "record" is not really worth setting straight.
Kate tweeted:
@susiejrussell don't and you. I get offended when anything is misspelled lol!
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Judging from all of the misspellings and grammar mistakes on her blogs and tweets, she offends herself pretty darn often!
It's quite remarkable how quickly Kate has fallen off the radar since TLC dumped her. It seems as if the magazines and talk shows who featured her were beholden to TLC and not her at all. Now that TLC is no longer backing her, no one appears to care much about her, certainly not enough to have to put up with her assholism. Wonder if Chris had to change his cell phone number to keep her from begging him to take pictures of her pumping gas and shopping at target.
The Lennon Sister's Dad was murdered by the stalker of one of the girls. Never knew this until I saw a special on PBS recently. These are the scary ones that just show up one day at the front door or the grocery store or Target with a gun. And she has put herself and her children out there on purpose.
The guy who shot Gabrielle Giffords had been obsessed with her for years. He attended a political event of hers in 2007. 2007!
The examples go on and on.
As much as I dislike Kate, of course I don't wish any harm upon her. I hope she reads this thread, because it's an important one. As long as Kate continues to MISuse Twitter as a public message board or big email loop in order to advertise herself, she'll have no one but herself to blame if one of her "out there, needy, obsessive" fans crosses the line.
Apparently Kreider is nursing a cold. Someone tweeted her to get on the floor, turn off the heat and open up the windows. Then she said UR a twat. Bwahahahaha
I get offended when anything is misspelled lol! about an hour ago
Is she serious about this?
For starters, Kate, it's knowledge, not knowlege. It's Crohn's disease, not crones. And it's free reign (or rein), not free range.
See, this is what we mean. I don't care if you misspell things. Who cares. But don't claim it's a pet peeve of yours when you can't spell worth a darn.
I forgot who said it but it's such a good point. Most of these obsessed fans had a little amount of direct interaction with their celeb or none at all. What would happen if a celeb actually gave a deranged fan a lot of quality interaction like Kate is doing??
Someone killed themselves at Paula Abdul's home also:
http://www.insideedition.com/news/2333/tragedy-at-paula-abduls-doorstep.aspx
Done and done, yes, miloandjack is the same person.
"For starters, Kate, it's knowledge, not knowlege. It's Crohn's disease, not crones. And it's free reign (or rein), not free range."
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It's gorgeous, not georgeous. It's Sydney, not Sidney. It's privilege, not priviledge. It's accommodate, not accomodate. It's calendar, not calender. It's perseverance, not perserverance.
Kate's a real hoot, isn't she?
It's liar, not lier. It's lies, not LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd never act as the spelling police if she didn't insist she's good at spelling. When will she learn to stop talking so much and giving so much ammunition to people?
Sherry Baby already beat me to it. I was going to add how she spells it "georgous" every single time, even after being corrected repeatedly.
Another word she clearly does NOT know how to spell because she spells it the same incorrect way each and every time: "ceasar" (salad)
http://www.hollybaby.com/
"Kate Gosselin's 11 Lowest Moments of 2011"
"AUG. 2011: The reality TV star appeared on The Joy Behar Show to talk about her dating life, and said she would consider the option of going gay to fill the void of men in her life"
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I am about as far away from being a sheeple as one can get, but if something like that were written about me, I'd very seriously consider a libel suit because many of the statements attributed to Kate are just not true, or taken out of context. Just one example...
"AUG. 2011: The reality TV star appeared on The Joy Behar Show to talk about her dating life, and said she would consider the option of going gay to fill the void of men in her life."
The actual transcript from the August 12 show:
"BEHAR: I think you would be better off going with lesbianism because a woman would be probably easier.
GOSSELIN: Oh, my gosh.
BEHAR: More maternal. Do you know what I mean? Try it. You never know.
GOSSELIN: Yes. Not so much for me. Thanks though."
BEHAR: Not your thing. Just a suggestion.
End of discussion on that topic. At no point did she say that she would go gay.
Someone mentioned Oprah and her security. Years ago Oprah said on TV that if she receives more than 2 communications from the same person that name is put on the "watch list". She said then - in the 1990's - that she could not be too careful.
I have no idea if Oprah tweets, but I'm sure she has better things to do than sit in her house and punch out stupid stuff on her phone.
Kate's biggest stalker in my opinion is FUFK of Milo/Jack on Twitter. She gets almost panicked if she doesn't hear from Kate all day and writes some pretty crazy stuff for someone of any age. And whoever posted it earlier they were correct that her husband insists the lights etc go off at 11p (I'd tell my husband to go to hell personally) At the time that Kate's show was canceled FUFK was in the hospital and a poster who knows her wrote on Baby Mama's site that her husband met with the doctors and they decided not to tell her since she may suffer a set back medically. Yes, you did read that correctly
Oh, but I did NOT diagnose her. I simply did a R/O. Based on her reslist of real shows, she comes no where close to meeting those criteria.
Are you arguing otherwise?
Sorry Admin, I bit when I shouldn't have.
I was watching some of the beginning shows on Youtube tonight. I never realized how little work she really did. It's always Jon feeding, bathing, washing the walls. All you see her doing for work is being in the kitchen alone, screaming about god knows what. She's really adept at slithering out of any work! You don't see her being loving with any of the kids but Hannah. Funny how you don't notice all that the first time you saw an episode. Now it's really blatant that Jon was doing 99% of the work, and 99% of the kid interactions. If she interacted at all it was screaming about something stupid.
Funny....the episodes where the twins are 7, they're not thanking either parent for anything!
Milo also asked Kate a few days ago if she was going to to have a Tweet party NYE if she was awake and if so, she would be ready with her "hat and bib"
After reading comments regarding Kart's fan Milo/Jack, I'm wondering if she is in some type of facility. The lights out at ll:00 by her "husband" could be an employee or when her evening sleep meds kick in. I don't know her age, but she may be in an extended care, assisted living, nursing home, etc. Maybe Kart is aware of this and doesn't feel threatened by her tweets.
Happy New Years to everyone.
url...74 After reading comments regarding Kart's fan Milo/Jack, I'm wondering if she is in some type of facility. The lights out at ll:00 by her "husband" could be an employee or when her evening sleep meds kick in. I don't know her age, but she may be in an extended care, assisted living, nursing home, etc. Maybe Kart is aware of this and doesn't feel threatened by her tweets.
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I think that she has teenage children, doesn't she, or am I thinking of someone else? She's been in and out of the hospital because of a health problem. I don't know what her physical problem is, but mentally, she's unstable. I don't believe that she's in any kind of a facility.
Katie Cry-duh said... 58
Apparently Kreider is nursing a cold. Someone tweeted her to get on the floor, turn off the heat and open up the windows. Then she said UR a twat. Bwahahahaha
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Kate called someone a "twat?"
No, the tweeter called Kate that. Maybe you had to bd there, I thought it was funny.
All of these stalker cases are scary, and I had no idea there were so many! Kate really, REALLY needs to be careful.
Reading these I was reminded of the Monica Seles stabbing- it wasn't her fan but Steffi Graf's fan that did it. This makes me concerned for Jon and Ellen. You just never know.
Milo/FUFK is crazy! I cannot believe her tweets- creepy is an understatement.
Happy New Years everyone!
Unplanned for New Years resolution:
drinking my virtual champagne from NE Pschol 40 and
as I find her really not important enough to be really concerned about actual stalkers, to Warmth 41, I'm not going to worry about non-existent problems. And IF there is by some slight chance a 'real' stalker out there, lets hope that super bodyguard Steve is right there Johnny on the Spot bodyguard guarding her body as someboy, who?, anybody, Bueller...is paying? him to do, rather than carry her purse, or kids, or luggage, or whatever the hell else he does rather than actual bodyguardish type thingies. If not, oh well, she didn't have to be putting all her business (AND her kids lives) out there with no concern for the safety of whoever.
Happy New Year, Admin (great blog), and the same to all the great people from zontv and the rest of those trying to find a real life for the g'kids.
I can't believe that she didn't think about this stuff before she started personally responding to fans on the internet. She surely isn't the brightest crayon in the box.
Don't forget Theresa Saldana. She was repeatedly stabbed by a fan while her neighbors just watched without helping her. She lived but barely.
Barbee said, "If not, oh well, she didn't have to be putting all her business (AND her kids lives) out there with no concern for the safety of whoever."
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Oh, well? She (or one of the kids) is seriously injured or killed by an obsessive fan, and it's "oh, well" it's her own darn fault? That's an interesting assessment of the stalker scenario. I hope you didn't mean it like it sounded!
Other celebrities also put themselves out there. Because they did, do they deserve to be harmed by crazy fans?
Yes, Kate is to blame for engaging and encouraging these fans, but she doesn't deserve to be the victim of an assault. In the world of fandom, anything can and does happen. You just never know, and you never take the chance.
Kate's closing her eyes to the dangers of teasing her fans and telling them that they are friends. It's time she opens those eyes.
Sleepless in Seattle said... 82, AGREED! I hope they didn't mean their comment as it sounded, either. Yes, Kate is at fault for putting her life in the public, but that most certainly does NOT give others a license to stalk and injure/murder.
That's like telling a rape victim "You asked for it, you shouldn't have worn that dress" or led that guy on, etc.
Barbee @ 79 commented: "...and as I find her really not important enough to be really concerned about actual stalkers, to Warmth 41, I'm not going to worry about non-existent problems."
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She has fans. She has fans who, as evidenced by their demanding tweets, may have mental issues. She does not need to be an A-lister to have a stalker. She does not have to be at the top of the celebrity charts. The fact is that there are nuts out there who may take offense if she ignores them. It only takes ONE person to go off the deep end and take action. Only one.
There are many non-famous people who get stalked. It's a TV show on Investigation discovery channel. Kate better be careful and not announce everything.
She and the kids do on twitter seems like she doesn't think to much be for she does something. It only takes one crazy person.
@Jmwheatley2011M our friend/family member ashley? Oh yes! She was just here the other day... :)
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Right sure she was....(maybe 4 the kids)
I wouls also worry about one or more of the kids being kidnapped for ransom or some crazy reason....at school, from the bus...every parent worries about that, but Kate's kids are at greater risk being in the public eye. One can tell where they will be given at many given times..I'd hate to see that happen to any child.
Happy new year everyone. There have been many thank you's to me and the blog over the holidays and I just want to extend a giant thank you to you all. It's the discussion that makes or breaks a blog--and I thank you for that.
Oh and I got your packages of crap and Christmas cards, thank you!!! Tee-hee just kidding.
Gee, it's so nice her sheeple all shipped packages to her in time for Christmas, and she claims she's just opening them today:
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
GM&HNY!!Trying 2 catch up on my work &opened mail-thx 2all who sent cards& treats!I'm flattered by ur love!So not nec but brightened my day!
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So, opening mail and gifts from sheeple is what she calls "work"? It's just as we thought! She spends all day tweeting and reading tweets and probably blogs about herself, and tells the kids to leave her alone, she's "working".
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 88
Happy new year everyone. There have been many thank you's to me and the blog over the holidays and I just want to extend a giant thank you to you all. It's the discussion that makes or breaks a blog--and I thank you for that.
Oh and I got your packages of crap and Christmas cards, thank you!!! Tee-hee just kidding.
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Happy New Year's Day...getting ready to make Eggs Benedict, Fried Potatoes, and stick the champagne in the freezer so it's really cold for a Sunday Brunch!
You have done an incredible job on this blog, ADM, and your wit always comes shining through, as in your last remark! LOL.
Yes, Kate is so lazy that she sent a generic thank you to everyone who sent her and the kids gifts, because she's read that she was criticized for not acknowledging them.
Kate tweets/blogs to make herself relevant in her crazy oversized head. She blathers on and on, contradicting herself, and accidentally leaving clues about how to bump into them or break into the orphanage in her unfunny, witless, developmentally delayed anecdotes. The woman is crazy and delusional.
This is one of the most important subjects I've seen posted on the blog in a long time. And further confirmation that Kate reads it (probably daily - what narcissist could resist?) - how interesting that her cursory 'thx' to all the Tweeters who sent her gifts came so quickly after this post. Her immature and self-serving communications with these anonymous people most definitely have the potential to become tragic. It's not hard to assume that among them are at least one or two who truly 'won't be ignored' - hence, her tweet this morning. Perhaps you scared a little sense into her, Admin? She allows her twitter account to continue when it has long ago ceased to be anything but a dangerous, vicious, weird and counterproductive thing. She will pay the price for this, I'm convinced. And I agree - she has NO idea who is really lurking behind the anonymous screen names - could be anyone from 14 year old girls to prison inmates, mental patients, pedophiles, fanatics, or just plain nuts. She's taking a terrible risk allowing it to continue. She should shut it down for her own safety and that of her kids, in my opinion. Before something terrible happens.
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!
When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought the quote referred to Kate. "I will not be ignored!!!!!!!! Even if you don't care about me anymore!!!!!! Even if I have to get Steve to take faux-paparazzi photos of me!!!!! Even if I need to make up things about myself and tweet and blog about them!!!!!!!!".
Milo isn't all there. I think she had a hip replacement, had some bad reaction to meds while in the hosp. Right about the hubby not telling her about the cancellation while she was in there. She was just crazy over Kate's marathon, had all her stats wrong and Kate was to stupid to know how to look up her own placings. She kept telling Kate about her 1 or 2 miles walks with "Jack" the dog. Lately she's flipped and sounds like a shut in.
Milo tweeted the backs of two kids once. Her bedtime is 10pm, dictated by the hubby. Never, ever mentions doing anything with her own kids - no shopping with daughter, no attending sports or school functions. No Christmas activities, all she's dreamed of is Kate being so desperate on New Year's Eve that she would hold a tweet party. I can't imagine that Kate would acknowledge that she was home alone on NYE. The highlight of her day, besides her bff Kate, is when hubby brings her ice cream. Milo's new bf is Mumbear, the NZ lady that went to the Zoo when Kate was there, leaving her 9 adopted or foster kids home.
Sounds like Milo's hubby owns a business and she helps, but gets overwhelmed and doesn't answer emails? That's great customer service. I used to get hundreds per day and you at least respond if u don't know the answer to acknowledge them and respond that you will get back w/ an answer.
Milo really does think Kate is doing it all alone...doesn't realize all the helpers and staff she has.
Milo just isn't normal - she just loves her egg head twitter avatar - it's eggscelent! LOL
I wonder if Kate really has a cold...good excuse to cover that she may not have had any plans for NYE...
I saw in the paper today that Pamela Anderson is going to be on some show called "I Get a Lot of That", as a celebrity going undercover as an ordinary person (in Pam's case, she's selling lingerie). Drew Pinsky is going to be on also, selling eye glasses, and Jerry Springer as a deli worker.
Pretty funny....sounds like that could have been a good show for Kate, but they prorbably wouldn't have her cuz she thinks she's too good to do anything ordinary, and she'd make their lives hell with her diva act, so it wasn't worth it to have her on.
So, opening mail and gifts from sheeple is what she calls "work"? It's just as we thought! She spends all day tweeting and reading tweets and probably blogs about herself, and tells the kids to leave her alone, she's "working".
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Sounds like same one KG just a different situation.
just_elliee
@Kateplusmy8 does that mean you got my presents :D
Oh, my gosh. Isn't this the young girl in the UK who sent a package and paid extra shipping so Kate would get it in time for Christmas? The one who kept asking Kate if she opened her mail, and Kate just said, "No." That was last week. You mean that Kate still hasn't responded to her? Kate sends a blanket "thank you" and doesn't even acknowledge this one?
Isn't Milo's designated bedtime 11 p.m. preceded by the vanilla ice cream break from Twitter?
Moose Mania said... 99 Oh, my gosh. Isn't this the young girl in the UK who sent a package and paid extra shipping so Kate would get it in time for Christmas? The one who kept asking Kate if she opened her mail, and Kate just said, "No." That was last week. You mean that Kate still hasn't responded to her? Kate sends a blanket "thank you" and doesn't even acknowledge this one?
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Exactly, Moose. So typically Kate, and so appropriate to this whole thread. I'm sure Ellie is only one of many who have been ignored and for whom the "thx" is supposed to be sufficient. Playing with fire, Kate.
Thank you Admin. for this very important topic. I can't imagine why someone close(?) to her hasn't advised her about the potential danger in exposing her children's comings and goings in this manner. As far as communicating with her "fans" and accepting "gifts", as a mother her number one rule should be, "Don't accept anything from strangers" and some of these people sound to be as strange as you can possibly get.
Her only connection with the public on a day to day basis seems to be 'tweeting'. It's what keeps her relevant to the gossip columnists, so I don't see her giving it up. It keeps her name out there and that's what she lives for.
I can't imagine any other 'celeb' asking for return postage when asked for a favor. This woman just gets more unbelievable on a daily basis.
Thank you for all you do to keep this blog going strong. Best wishes for happiness and good health in this New Year.
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Yes that's the little girl that searched all over for the just the right gifts. And I don't think the child had money to burn as she was taken aback about the postage. KT always says it is not necessary, but certainly "brightens" her day. I think money and/or gift cards make her "smile and you know why:)." The "you know why's" get a personal tweet. Chocolates - not so much.
She coulda used some of that stuff under the tree from the looks of things. In spite of all that falling over gifts, getting bruises, hours upon hours, day after day of wrapping, there just was not a lot of presents under the tree in the photo for a "family of 9." She has been using that word, family, a lot lately, I noticed. I guess her finally thinking of the kids as her family is a good thing, though.
Why do I get the feeling the locked closet is still half or more full of freebies that she didn't have time to wrap. After all birthdays will be along, soon. I think all of that nonsensical wrapping fiasco was so people wouldn't think she was just laid up in the bed tweeting all the time. I know when I am wrapping presents I am too busy looking for the tape to even think about the phone. I will never forget that - it was just the most bizarre thing, ever.
I agree, anon, as I mentioned above. Anyone can figure out the name of the kids' school and get the schedule from the website or even calling the school. The bus pickup would be easy to find, as well. School buses have been hijacked before for kidnappings. With K tweeting all the family's activities you could also know when she was away and the kids with a nanny- very dangerous. Just having their photos out there is bad enough....angry tweeters could easily become enraged stalkers or worse. I feel concerned for the kids on yet another level..
...so I join in the thanks to Admin for this topic- I hope K does read it and maybe thinks twice about the 'cons' of celebrity.
Why do I picture Kate opening and perhaps unwrapping gifts sent by her fans, trying to decide what to use for Christmas and what to save for another time. I think that was what was taking up most of her time when she blamed it all on wrapping. I am sure she didn't want her fans to know that she opened any of there gifts before Christmas because she wanted to take credit for the gifts. Maybe I am wrong but it just seems like her MO. Now all of a sudden on New Years day she is finally getting to all those gifts.
Also how convenient she was sick yesterday when all her tweetie fans wanted to have a tweet party with her.
I just checked out TLC's website. How long has Kate been dropped from their site? Am I wrong in thinking they don't even show reruns of her show? I am probably out of touch with this since I haven't watched that channel in 3 years in protest for the kids.
Don't know if Betty Broderick has been discussed here. In the early 90's she shot her husband and his new wife in the early morning hours while they were sleeping She never reconciled herself to being divorced. The nasty (and obscene) phone messages she left for him were played during the trail. One of the oft repeated ones included the angry line, "I will NOT be ignored." During her trial one psychologist testified to her narcissistic personality. She is still in prison, having been denied parole in 2011. 3 books and a movie (with Meredith Birney) have been written her "fascinating" story.
I bet the gift from the teen to Kate was just another free thing that's why she didn't take to the to go to fed ex or say thank you.
She could've even said "I got this nice gift from so and so thanks for taking the time to buy such and such. She is an ungreatful person. It's to bad her fans don't see it and stop sending her things.
To each is own I guess.
I checked a week or so ago and noticed she's been swiffered from the TLC site. However if you do a search for Gosselin you can still find your way to the old web page with videos and stupid blather about stuff, though it obviously hasn't been updated.
That teen Ellie is the 17 yr old in England who sent the gifts to Khate, and tweeted to Khate on December 9th that she mailed them. Also, on December 16th when the crumpet discussion came up, she tweeted Khate that she'd send her some after Christmas, and she again told Khate that her Christmas package was on the way. I had posted some of her tweets here, including her tweets to Maggie (the 10 yr old in England) expressing her shock at the shipping fees to get the package there in time for Christmas. It was over $23.
Ellie has been asking repeatedly whether her package arrived and Khate knows it. Khate mostly ignores her, except for telling her she'd get back to her (on 12/24) and that curt "no" last week:
Just_Elliee Ellie
@Kateplusmy8 hey Kate, has my package arrived yet? X
December 22nd, 6:44 PM
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Just_Elliee Ellie
@Kateplusmy8 has my presents arrived yet?
December 24th, 9:39 AM
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@Just_Elliee hmmm... I'll get back to you on that...
December 24th, 9:42 AM
Just_Elliee Ellie
@Kateplusmy8 okay haha. I hope they have! Post Office charged me extra to make sure it was there 4 xmas :L. I've written my @ name in it :)
December 24th, 9:44 AM
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Just_Elliee Ellie
@Kateplusmy8 have you been to check the mail yet? X
December 26th, 7:43PM
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
@Just_Elliee no..
December 26th
Just_Elliee Ellie
@Kateplusmy8 :L. I'm really curious as to whether my package has arrived yet xD. I hope you guys like your christmas presents!
December 26th, 7:53PM
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Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
GM&HNY!!Trying 2 catch up on my work &opened mail-thx 2all who sent cards& treats!I'm flattered by ur love!So not nec but brightened my day!
January 1st, 9:40AM
Just_Elliee Ellie
@Kateplusmy8 does that mean you got my presents :D
January 1st, 12:31PM
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This girl had also tweeted a couple of weeks ago when Khate mentioned she misses crumpets, that she'll send her some soon. First of all, you can get crumpets here, and secondly, what a waste of time and money. I really hope she doesn't bother with that now that she sees that Khate is so ungrateful and can't even confirm she received her package even when she knows the girl has been asking for weeks and is concerned.
More freebies on the way to Khate! A teen sheeple just tweeted:
Harry's Princess
emilykateplus8 Harry's Princess
@Kateplusmy8 Hey Kate! My mom works at victoria's secret and she got a ton of cute sports bras and sports shorts an leggings and she told me
39 minutes ago
Harry's Princess
emilykateplus8 Harry's Princess
@Kateplusmy8 i could send some to you! One sports bra says KEEP UP! It's SO cute and it reminded me of you. haha. I think i have the address
39 minutes ago
emilykateplus8 Harry's Princess
@Kateplusmy8 from barb! if you could, please DM me your size and I can send it to you!! (: xx
38 minutes ago
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Khate hasn't been on Twitter for 6 hours, BUT I bet she will pop on any second now. She ALWAYS does as soon as someone mentions gifts or freebies (which means she watched her Twitter feed all day and night)!
(typo - I meant she watches her Twitter feed)
Ungrateful indeed how hard is it to say thank you or to send thank you cards out to people that send you things that they spent their money for gift?
That girl wants to send her some sports bras from VS?? Now I've seen everything. So very, very wrong.
Lol 113
Maybe she can make some money selling Kate's bra size to the media.
The sheeple had been saying lately that the "haters" don't know anything. They said just because Khate hasn't publicly tweeted thanks to someone, doesn't mean she hasn't emailed them or DM'd (Twitter direct/private message) them to let them know she at least received their packages.
Of course, she should not only confirm receipt quickly, but it should be followed up with a handwritten thank you note mailed out as soon as possible.
LOL, I say this as my kids sit at the kitchen table writing thank you notes to their grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins who live far away and shipped them gifts. Even though they were thanked on the phone on Christmas day, handwritten thank you notes are in order! Plus, we always include a few photos from our Christmas gatherings.
Ugh, now that my oldest has his own email account, he is arguing with us that he sees no reason why he can't just send an email. He just said he can even attach photos to his email (that's what I get for teaching him this stuff). Okay, I have to go settle this because he's actually arguing a good case and my husband seems to be falling for it. Time to step in with my rebuttal! Wish me luck!
That's really terrible if Kate encourages young fans to send her freebies, but a BRA??? Will it be a 'good one??' This takes the cake...or crumpets...
I hope this teen is working and spending her cash for gifts on Kate.
They said just because Khate hasn't publicly tweeted thanks to someone, doesn't mean she hasn't emailed them or DM'd (Twitter direct/private message) them to let them know she at least received their packages.
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I thought the same thing until some of them have asked her over and over and over did you get what I sent???
After reading comment 110 (VS), it occurred to me that the "cult of kate" and the "blog wars" could make a really hilarious book in the hands of a talented writer. I wonder if David Sedaris would be interested?
Happy New Year everyone. Best wishes for 2012.
NLAN - My dad always says it is best to send a thank you note via snail mail rather than email because people usually only get bills in the mail. Hope that reasoning helps your case ;). Happy New Year everyone!!
admin said: I thought the same thing until some of them have asked her over and over and over did you get what I sent???
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Exactly, admin. That's why I was so surprised when I read her response to Kate's blanket thank-you earlier today. It's clear that Kate had never sent the young girl in the UK a private e-mail, because the girl was asking if her thank you meant that she had received her gift or gifts.
The sheeple can't figure this out - that the girl never was privately thanked if she had ask Kate on public Twitter? I guess they are dumber than I thought!
Rhymes with Witch - I have often felt the same way! I come here because I genuinely like this blog and the people that post here, but also because the fact that so many people are involved in this (myself included of course) is baffling to me! I have been blogging Gosselins off and on since 2009 and what pulls me back time and again is the phenomenon that we have all become a part of. I can't even tell my friends or family about it because if I try to explain it it sounds too darn complicated! Where does one even begin? We have developed our own shorthand, our own history, essentially our own subculture. It surely has been an interesting ride, and I'm glad to be able to share it with you all.
Why do I picture Kate opening and perhaps unwrapping gifts sent by her fans, trying to decide what to use for Christmas and what to save for another time.
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You forgot a third option: what to resell at the consignment shop.
NLAN - My dad always says it is best to send a thank you note via snail mail rather than email because people usually only get bills in the mail. Hope that reasoning helps your case ;). Happy New Year everyone!!
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Yes, indeed. We have a rule here. Toys are not played with until a hand-written thank you note is mailed. Gift cards are not used until that note goes in the mail. NO e-mails!
I think that writing thank you notes has fallen by the wayside. It always surprises me that out of all the gifts we give to teachers (and there is a multitude of them), that there are very few responses sent by the younger teachers. The older veteran teachers never fail to send a prompt hand-written note. Not that it's expected, but it is appreciated.
Admin..
Isn't the same when some one asking Kate for nursing advice to help her son she asked Kate over and over the same questions. For about a week or so.?
And all Kate said was woops didn't see your questions e-mail me. She cares about no one but herself and what she can get for herself by using very one the 8 her kids her hair dresser ect..
We have developed our own shorthand, our own history, essentially our own subculture.
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As illustrated by the fact that you understood that the book in question would NOT address truly personal issues, like the divorce or the exploitation of the children, but the tangential absurdities of it all. :)
Chef I have no idea I am the wrong person to ask. I only follow what people tweet to kate via what is posted here, plus the twitter feed at the top. I don't follow it independently. I figure I get enough of it just here, I don't need to seek out anymore.
admin said: You forgot a third option: what to resell at the consignment shop.
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Or what to re-gift!
And all Kate said was woops didn't see your questions e-mail me. She cares about no one but herself and what she can get for herself by using very one the 8 her kids her hair dresser ect..
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Chef, I think what might have happened there is that Kate didn't want to get reprimanded on giving out medical advice in a public forum, so she asked for a private e-mail. NLAN would probably know the answer to that one.
Done and done said... 120
NLAN - My dad always says it is best to send a thank you note via snail mail rather than email because people usually only get bills in the mail. Hope that reasoning helps your case ;). Happy New Year everyone!!
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That's a good one! I pay so many bills online and have opted to go with online statements more and more lately, so I hardly even get any bills in the mail. Our mail is mostly junk mail and catalogs that I can't get them to stop sending us.
I won the argument, of course. God help me, I sounded just like my parents! I told him that as long as he is living in this home, he WILL be sending hand written thank you notes. Then, I really laid it on thick and said if he stops sending thank you notes once he's moved out, I will be mortified and consider myself a failure as a parent, lol.
Since he was so argumentative, and my husband thought he had some good points about how emailing thank you notes and attaching pics was good practice for him, I decided to make him email his cousins. Of course, the cousins will be included in the handwritten notes that go in the snail mail to the aunts and uncles. So, he's not too happy right now because he just realized that arguing with me just caused him to have more "work"to do. You think he would have learned that lesson by now!
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I think that writing thank you notes has fallen by the wayside. It always surprises me that out of all the gifts we give to teachers (and there is a multitude of them), that there are very few responses sent by the younger teachers. The older veteran teachers never fail to send a prompt hand-written note. Not that it's expected, but it is appreciated.
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I just have to say that I'm happy to report that my experience has been different. In the last seven or eight years of schooling here, ALL of my kids' teachers have sent lovely handwritten thank you notes home. More than half of the teachers have been younger ones.
A teen asked Kate for her bra size? Does Victoria's Secret make Double D bras?
Lord in heaven, what's next? Someone in Kimberly-Clark management says he/she can ship Kate a year's supply of feminine care products and asks her what product she prefers...napkins with wings or unscented tampons?
I get written thank you notes from the post person (female) and my landscaper (no, I'm not being elitist - he and his small crew mow the lawn and plow because we cannot).
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Chef, I think what might have happened there is that Kate didn't want to get reprimanded on giving out medical advice in a public forum, so she asked for a private e-mail. NLAN would probably know the answer to that one.
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Actually, I think it wasn't even that. From looking at all the tweets, I think Khate only saw that the woman was pestering her, asking if she received her repeated tweets. So, finally, Khate just said "email me". She probably had no idea the woman wanted medical advice.
I pasted the whole saga at Preesi's: Click Here
Yes, I just read the whole exchange again and Khate had no idea what the woman's question was about. She just told her to email her. You all have to click that link and read it!
NLAN said: I won the argument, of course. God help me, I sounded just like my parents! I told him that as long as he is living in this home, he WILL be sending hand written thank you notes.
lol, NLAN...did we have the same parents? We go through this argument at every birthday and Christmas, but they are getting better at it, knowing that I will not relent. I also threatened to not feed them until every note is written and mailed!
God help me, I sounded just like my parents!
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Thanks for the laugh. I have realized that there are worse things in life. :)
NLAN - one of the things that made me stop arguing was getting (verbal)feedback from my Mom or the recipients about how good my note made them feel.
Hey Kate I have some wrinkle cream for your neck and belly. Could you send me your address so I can mail it to you?
Admin.... your right I did forget the consignment shop. Too bad Chris isn't still following her or we would witness her taking her basket of gifts there.
Oops that should be you're not your. Sorry
Since this is information available to the public and was published in our local paper today I guess it would be OK to ask.
There was a change in the real estate section today for the Gosselin house. It went from Katie Gosselin, the attorney and the Revocable Trust to just Katie Gosselin and the Revocable Trust.
I know that sometimes names are dropped on a deed due to divorce but what does it mean when an attorneys name is taken off? Why is an attorneys name put on a deed in the first place?
I'm just curious.
Moose Mania said... 135
lol, NLAN...did we have the same parents? We go through this argument at every birthday and Christmas, but they are getting better at it, knowing that I will not relent. I also threatened to not feed them until every note is written and mailed!
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Moose Mania - LOL. Unfortunately this one is getting to that age where he's very good at debating and it gets tiring. He knows that and tries to wear us down all the time. He always argues his case and lists out supporting reasons for his demands. Nope, that won't work with me, buddy!
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Rhymes with Witch said... 136
Thanks for the laugh. I have realized that there are worse things in life. :)
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Oh, I totally agree. I don't mind sounding like my parents at all! I just think it's funny and I can't wait to call my mom and tell her. You know when you say something to your kids and in your head you say, "Oh my gosh, did I just say that? I sound like my mom!" We all get to that point. Heck, those old lines are tried and true, so I'll use them any time I need them. I did bite my tongue, though, when I thought of saying "One day you will WISH you had grandparents to write a letter to".
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Rhymes with Witch said... 137
NLAN - one of the things that made me stop arguing was getting (verbal)feedback from my Mom or the recipients about how good my note made them feel.
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Good idea. We usually talk to my husband's parents every weekend, and they'll mention getting the thank you notes and pics. But this time, since my son is being such a pain about it, I'm going to email my mother-in-law and ask her to please call my son later this week when she receives the thank you note in the mail just to reinforce how much she appreciated getting it. Sheesh, a "thank you" for a "thank you"? These kids! I'm exhausted(ish). Ha ha!
NLAN, I know a thank you for a thank you sounds over the top, but it was specific to written/mailed Thank You Notes and it was genuine. As an adult I have realized that it is true and have told "the kids" how/why I loved their notes. AQnd it's always been true.
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Interesting. I found it here:
http://readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=355498
Originally Published: 1/1/2012
Transactions for December 31, 2011
Editor's note: Some of the transactions do not include a transfer price because no money was exchanged for the property. All deeds are recorded in the Berks County Recorder of Deeds Office and are a matter of public information. There is a delay between when the deeds are filed and their publication. Transactions are based on a file created by the recorder of deeds. For questions, call 610-478-3380 or send email to recorder@countyofberks.com.
Lower Heidelberg Township
Katie I. Gosselin, William R. Blumer and The CWM Revocable Trust Agreement to Katie I. Gosselin and CWM Revocable Trust Agreement, 298 Heffner Road.
Originally the house was deeded only to the attorney and the CWM Revocable Trust. Sometime after the divorce Kate was added. Now it seems that Kate has removed the attorney from the deed. *interesting*
I checked and the attorney is no longer the Trustee, Khate is:
County Clerk records
It probably has something to do with the divorce agreement, considering the timing is two years almost to the day. So, now she has full control of the house. Interesting.
Berks - I was posting at the same time and didn't see your post. Yes, interesting. Maybe this means she is getting ready to list it for sale because it would be a lot easier if she's the only one who has to sign the Contract, the Deed, etc.
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/first_on_fox%3A_tax_lien_put_on_gosselins
Their current $1.12 million estate in Wernersville, Pa., was actually purchased in the name of estate lawyer William R. Blumer as part of a Revocable Trust Agreement last October (2008).
I wonder if they did that because they held a loan already on the E-town home and the bank wouldn't approve a loan from Jon and Kate but would approve a loan coming as part of a trust? I'm not at all sure how the mechanics of it works, but it is interesting that she took the lawyer off the deed and had her name attached to it.
Maybe it was the attorney who opted out?
Berks - from that article you cited:
Their current $1.12 million estate in Wernersville, Pa., was actually purchased in the name of estate lawyer William R. Blumer as part of a Revocable Trust Agreement last October.
The trust is registered to the same address used by Jon and Kate Gosselin in their divorce case. Such a purchase by a trust is common in estate planning when couples wish to avoid probate issues.
But the 6,000 square-foot house and its 24 acres weren’t paid for entirely in cash in October 2008. There is a mortgage that is quite substantial.
The mortgage with Susquehanna Mortgage is also in the name of the estate and it is for $720,000 over 10 years.
As of October 5, the mortgage had not been paid off.
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At Preesi's, Tam said that the $720,000 Mortgage has been refinanced down to a $662,000.00 Mortgage due & payable January 1, 2042.
There's no way much principal has been paid down in the three years she's owned it. So, she came up with $58,000, (plus closing costs) to refinance it.
If you have to take on a 30 year mortgage for that house, odds are you can't afford it.
I noticed (on another site) the propery is listed as a farm. I guess the chickens make it a farm which results in lower taxes.
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Moose Mania - LOL. Unfortunately this one is getting to that age where he's very good at debating and it gets tiring.
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I know what you mean, NLAN. Mine are almost at that point, but I can still look them in the eyes and they know that they are not going to win. They call it, "THE LOOK!" Once THE LOOK is given, they wave the surrender flag!
Just saw over on the other blog that "Oh, yes, she is!" is back! She must have hibernated until the new year!
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If you have to take on a 30 year mortgage for that house, odds are you can't afford it.
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What's even worse is that she took out an Adjustable Rate Mortgage! Interest rates are at a historic low and now is the time to lock in that low rate with a fixed rate loan. The only people who should do an ARM right now are those who know for sure that they will be selling before that ten year point comes because interest rates are only going to go up.
She had a ten year ARM before, and that's what she took out again. It's the same bank, btw. She took out a 10 yr ARM, $662,000 at 4.25%. I haven't looked it up, but that can't be too bad of a payment. Still, she has property taxes and maintenance to pay.
Gee, where did Ms. I'm So Poor get $58,000 cash (plus closing costs) to refinance? All in the same time period that she lost the TLC money, and purchased three vehicles. She sure as hell doesn't seem like someone worried about an income stream coming in this year.
By the time Kate begins to over even thinks about being stressed out with money problems she could be in some really hot water by then. She keeps cruising along hoping for a TV gig and a gravy train all she will end up with burying herself in some financial hole. Then what? TLC won't bail her out. I doubt her family will be able to or even want to assist her. Jon? Forget it.
I say just wait and see what will become of Kate, the Ms. Oh-I'm-So-Poor. Giver her another year with little to no job efforts.
What I'd like to see is that since she has stated over and over again that the house is "for the kid" that the house is "their house." When time comes for her kids 18 and such and moving out...yeah I'd like see that work. Kate's kids might ask Kate to leave THEIR house. What a laugh one day!
I agree that she is being cavalier financially by not getting steady employment. Instead she sits on her flat square ass expecting a tv gig to fall into her lap. If she worked as a nurse (pity the patients) now, it would supplement what she has saved. If she waits until she HAS to work, she could be in a world of trouble. I think she'll have difficulty finding employment anywhere as her vile reputation precedes her.
@BHappyLoveLaugh To Bullies: If you say I should do it,I don't!If you say I can't,I WILL and if you say I did, I most certainly haven't! ;) about 4 hours ago
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Well, I say you CAN'T get that talk show you want ( or any other show for that matter ).
You CAN'T be courteous, grateful and gracious to save your life.
You CAN'T dance.
You CAN'T admit you and Steve are an item.
You CAN'T ever put your children above your own wants, always.
I say you SHOULD love your kids more than you hate Jon, but you don't. You're right about that one.
Boy, she must be into the wine box tonight, trying to antagonize the haters and spewing venom. Steve must be back home with Gina and she's pms'ing.
Exhibit A exactly why an independent financial adviser/trustee needs to be managing the children's money so Kate can't get her greedy little hands on it to do ridiculously stupid things like this.
An independent advocate wouldn't let Kate, who is 36 years old, waste their hard earned money on a THIRTY YEAR MORTGAGE they'll be paying with their money when they are in their 30's themselves.
That house is one of the biggest travesties when it comes to the children's money.
She's back -- with yet another name!
bigfanofk8gosse
@kateplusmy8 Has she sold her lux audi sports car yet? We all know she needed that!
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@Kateplusmy8 Are ur kids upset that ur abrasive personality cost them their livelihood?
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There are some real loonies over there. I'm wondering if some of this tweeting isn't coming from an institution.
Hey Kate, how does it feel to know your assholism and defiance have cost your kids a secure future?
And it's tragic that house gave them nothing they couldn't have gotten with a cheaper house on a couple acres. And then saved their money to make sure each of them gets a nice little trust fund when they reach 18 to do what they like with it after working for five years.
Kids don't grow up and look back fondly on the square footage of their McMansion. Though they will probably remember things like the chickens and the dog, which are all things you can give kids on a smaller budget.
This house is for Kate. The mortgage proves it. She is in a mortgage that will stretch into her 60's, when her kids are LONG GONE OUT OF THE HOUSE. Mady and Cara are 11? They are both bright girls and will likely go off to college. They have eight years left in that house and that's it. The Tups about ten more years, a third of that mortgage. The other two thirds are all about Kate.
And what is she going to do all alone in that house in a decade?
Admin asked: And what is she going to do all alone in that house in a decade?
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Open a child care business.
Open a Bed and Breakfast, famous for Kate Cuisine.
Open a hostel for pilgrims from the UK, Canada and perhaps Australia.
Surely Kate has this all figured out!
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@BHappyLoveLaugh To Bullies: If you say I should do it,I don't!If you say I can't,I WILL and if you say I did, I most certainly haven't! ;)
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What a juvenile tweet. Why doesn't she just ignore the small group that bullies her on twitter? I thought she blocks them and moves on. On the contrary, she is a woman who eats up every last bit of her negative attention.
If you say I did, I most certainly haven't? Huh? What about the cold hard facts here about what she HAS done?
Fidosmommy said,
Open a hostel for pilgrims from the UK, Canada and perhaps Australia.
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They would all pay her in gifts - chocolates, crumpets, Irish whiskey, monogrammed Vera Bradley...
Happy New Year, everyone!
Glad to see everyone is back, healthy and had no ill effects from too much imbibing last night. Nice to see you,NE Psych.- raising my glass to you and everyone here.
Missed you Teresa, hope you are well.May 2012 be the best(ish)year for us all.
Interesting post for to-day,Admin. It really makes you think how incredibly stupid and selfish Kate is being, by keeping her twitter account open and playing games with the fans.
I hope someone makes her come to her senses before someone gets hurt or worse.This senseless leading them all on will cause nothing but grief, especially since she has nothing to offer anyone and doesn't want to.It has always been all about her.
I agree with the thank-you notes being written for gifts.I made my girls do it and it is so much more personal than an e-mail and much more appreciated.
In ten years I could see Kate doing the same thing she's doing now living off the kids or trying to live off the kids. Esp if they want to stay on TV or try their hands @ show biz.
She ain't going no where no time soon....-)
I just saw this article about TLC posted at Preesi's. I think you all might be interested in it, as there are several mentions of J&K+8, K+8, and even the nightmare camping trip with Sarah Palin:
For a TLC Spokeswoman, ‘No Comment’ Is an Art
I know this is totally off topic but I was wondering if we ever got any figures on that lunch with Khate in Australia. Do we know anything about how much money was raised for the fundraiser? I don't remember reading it anywhere. Thanks.
Thanks for that article NLAN.
"Laurie Goldberg is just about the only person I’ve ever seen say to Kate Gosselin, ‘You can’t do that.’"
The world needs more Laurie Goldbergs. Maybe she can warn kHate about why engaging with fans is so dangerous.
Happy 2012 to everyone here! I hope it brings health and happiness to all - including kHate.
NLAN, anything about TLC's PR gives me the heebie jeebies. They may try to act innocent, but the way they propped Kate and vilified Jon was horrible.
Happy New Year's everyone. We're going to a family wedding in Louisiana next weekend. This is our first time in the area. Any recommendations about New Orleans, the gulf coast?
Ha, this should be good:
Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin
PS- Check out my '11 Reflections on 2011' posting tomorrow morning.. go to: kateplusmy8.com To read it!
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2011: Katie got canned and the world rejoiced!
Actually, correction: 99.9999 % of the world didn't even notice or care. The rest were thrilled.
The kids were freed from their jobs where they had to give up every day off school and vacation breaks, stuck with a film crew in their faces. Plus, of course, the loss of their privacy.
A perverted child pornographer/TLC editor who worked on J&K+8, and J+8 was arrested, but Khate never heard of him, so no problem!
Just a quick note and hand written thank you's and cards- my daughter's generation, gen Y, is very tech savvy and electronic communication will (I think it already does) dominate and paper will fall by the way side the same as land line telephones will....{sigh} that is the future. She told me that in school, in a social studies class, they were discussing electronic communication vs. paper and all the kids said paper creates trash, so reduce and send by e-mail (such as paperless bills). Even thank you notes fall into this category, why create trash is what they think. I have jumped on board with her (and her gen Y), paperless is the way to go, I don't want to get left behind with the VHS players, LOL. I sent my niece a very nice high school grad gift and she texted her thank you- :) Just some perspective from the next generation (and PS- even my mother and grandmother use email and lately- texting!)
Moose Mania said... 124
NLAN - My dad always says it is best to send a thank you note via snail mail rather than email because people usually only get bills in the mail. Hope that reasoning helps your case ;). Happy New Year everyone!!
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Yes, indeed. We have a rule here. Toys are not played with until a hand-written thank you note is mailed. Gift cards are not used until that note goes in the mail. NO e-mails!
I think that writing thank you notes has fallen by the wayside. It always surprises me that out of all the gifts we give to teachers (and there is a multitude of them), that there are very few responses sent by the younger teachers. The older veteran teachers never fail to send a prompt hand-written note. Not that it's expected, but it is appreciated.
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I'm w/ you both on formal thank-you notes. Even my female mail carrier left me a handwritten thank-you card for her very inconsequential Christmas gift from me. As far as the Christmas email cards, I'm almost offended by them...I'd rather have nothing. But the thing that really chaps me is an email card vs. a real card on my birthday. On the occasions I have received a Christmas food gift from my neighbors, I always follow-up with a formal thank-you card. Some things will always remain the same, despite technology, and that includes having enough class to write a thank-you for a gift someone took the time to make or buy.
I have four children, 10-16. To my mother, we sent email thanks, and an attached video of the kids opening her gifts. She is very tech savvy and doesn’t write letters herself. Ever. But she emails and texts constantly. To my father, we sent handwritten notes. It mattered to him, and he is uncomfortable with technology. He rarely uses his computer, (his wife does), and he doesn’t have a cell phone.
I believe that electronic communication is the future, kids are just being raised that way, they get it in school and at home. But I stay flexible, and try to adapt to the preferences of the people we are thanking.
I’m a little bothered by some of the strong opinions, though I believe that everyone has the right to raise their children in their own way. My children are not thoughtless and rude because they sent an email to their grandmother to thank her on Christmas. Equally, they are not paragons of civility for writing a letter.
We focus on appreciating the gift, and thanking the person that sent it. The means of expressing that gratitude varies. I’m happy with that
Butterfly, I have to respond to this, lol. We have six cell phones in our home. We have not had a landline in four years.
I dropped my landline several years ago, too. However -- I don't walk around with my cell phone glued to my ear either (KATE -- a challenge - you CAN'T give up your cell phone for one 24 hour period). I leave it off unless I'm expecting an important phone call, and check my voice mail periodically. On thank you notes -- I mostly hand write them still, except for very close friends, who will get a hug and face-to-face thank you plus an email or, sometimes, a hand-written note. I do send electronic cards. There's so much more variety available that it's possible to choose the perfect card for each individual. It's also possible to guarantee that people actually receive their cards. A couple of years ago I got a Christmas card in February. It was mailed the first week of December.
Hope everyone had wonderful holidays and are energized and looking forward to the new year. I've enjoyed reading all the posts and differing opinions on this blog and look forward to interacting with all the intelligent, thoughtful, committed people who post here in the coming months. Thanks for keeping it classy, Admin.
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Kate is now patting herself on her flabby back for discovering extended family is important in her blog. That and making friends with other mothers. Okaaaay. That's all good and well, but does anyone think she'd really associate with such mediocrity if she still had a media gig? No. She's interacting with her fellow common folk because she has no better options. Keep reflecting on 2011, Kate, and you'll find you have little to be proud of. Oh, and I doubt any mothers will be looking to you for inspiration to get in shape. Liposuction, starvation and abandoning our children just arent on our radars, fool.
I'd like to comment on her "I choose happiness" tweet from last night. This really bothers me. She is closing herself up to feeling anything. There is a value to feeling other emotions.
She chooses to pretend that she is happy. It's quite clear from her postings that she is insecure, unfulfilled and has an inferiority complex.
And stupid
I find her twittering juvenile. No wonder she has teens following her.
The way she has treated her neighbors and her "I'm better than you" attitude, I doubt any moms from her children's school will befriend her.
I hate to say it, but sometimes we discuss things that may give her ideas (like stalking and she would most certainly seek publicity on that).
Admin, love to read here but maybe it's time to start phasing her out.
There's nothing we can do about the kids....they are hers and unless she starts filming them again, I don't see much point in keeping her relevant.
Kate still sees herself as a "stah", don't you know? Only thing missing is her call from a major studio. She will hold on til the bitter end and lose everything except her 8 kids. I fear her delusional self will not go quietly to rear her children in privacy.
I send only handwritten thank-you's and my adult children do the same. It's a personal touch that most people appreciate. I know I do.
Her twitter comments ARE very immature-sounding. Like a little smart-mouthed kid. The kind people didn't like in school, lol. It covers a lot of insecurity. She thinks she sounds "tough" but in reality she sounds defensive.
She does also clearly continue to have self-esteem issues. What she thinks comes across as confidence actually comes across as that insecurity. I've worked with children and young people with problems all my adult life and she frequently sounds just like them.
I agree with "TLC stinks" in that maybe we need to drop Kate totally. Don't want to do anything to keep her relevant. Maybe ignoring is best. We can't do anything to help those kids except pray for their escape at age 18. Doesn't appear that any other network is jumping to film them. Thank goodness for that. Kate really messed up by showing what a pitiful excuse for a person she is. "Pretty is as pretty does." "Lipstick on a pig." They all apply. Sad, opportunities lost. Recently, Joan Rivers described the situation best. Can't quote her, but agreed with what I heard.
Speaking as a westbrooke neighbor she never had an I'm better than you attitude towards us. We all have careers beside our families so there was never anything like that. Westbrooke neighborhood will just say for Fact that they filmed the children constantly and neither parent was out with them a lot of times. If a Parent was it was Jon. The children had a camera crew in their face so much it was ridiculous. Couple that with an alleged pedophile having access to all that footage and who knows who all is behind those twitter names and you have one recipe for disaster. But it is their children and she will reap what she sows. Let us hope that laws can be changed to protect future children of opportunistic people willing to get famous at any cost. As a friend in the industry told me this show could never have been made in California. I am routing for the children to have more normal in 2012 and for Kate I wish for some honest reflection and a little humility and gratitude wouldn't hurt.
She chooses to pretend that she is happy. It's quite clear from her postings that she is insecure, unfulfilled and has an inferiority complex.
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Can a narcissist have an inferiority complex?
Yes I believe a narcissist can have an inferiority complex that fuels the big ego and self-centered behavior. Deep down inside I think she knows she's a bad person and mother, so she has to 'prove' how awesome she is via twitter, etc. Also, IMO she is overcompensating for being average/below average in looks and wealth during her formative years. I could be wrong but I think deep inside, Kate's got nothing going for her
atie Cry-duh said...
Yes I believe a narcissist can have an inferiority complex that fuels the big ego and self-centered behavior. Deep down inside I think she knows she's a bad person and mother, so she has to 'prove' how awesome she is via twitter, etc. Also, IMO she is overcompensating for being average/below average in looks and wealth during her formative years. I could be wrong but I think deep inside, Kate's got nothing going for her
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Agree 100%. The woman has dedicated her twitter and blog to overcompensating.
I don't know if this one should be on the watch list, or if her fascination with Kate is harmless, but she's another one who wants to know what Kate is doing every minute and thinks she has a relationship with her. She reminds me of Brownie:
JeanneKaye
@Kateplusmy8 Morning. What's on Kate's agenda for today?
Jeanne Kaye
@Kateplusmy8 As you said, if you really conjor up determination and put ur mind 2 it,you will be amazed at what u can do. What a rush!!
Jeanne Kaye
@Kateplusmy8 don't know if u realize how you make us feel by responding, tweeting along and just having fun.. Your the best!!
Jeanne Kaye
@Kateplusmy8 BTW, for all we do for u, u do the same for us and more, so THANK YOU FRIEND!!
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@Kateplusmy8 was just reading them. Very well said!! Amazing to see what a year can bring.
JeanneKaye
@Kateplusmy8 I want your crockpot ham & korean burger recipes. Will u be posting those on website?or u could email them to me. :)
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@Kateplusmy8 Hey Kate, Glad to see ya feeling better. Being sick stinks huh?
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JeanneKaye
@Kateplusmy8 Hey You, did you get buried under all that mail and work you have? LOL. Don't forget to come up for air now and then. :)
JeanneKaye
@Kateplusmy8 Morning Kate. U up already? Three day weekend for me. Yay! Any plans today/tonight?
JeanneKaye Jeanne K
@Kateplusmy8 Hey Kate. How is your day going? Whatcha got planned for the weekend? U resting any yet? LOL
There is a spectrum of narcissism some experts have identified called COMPENSATORY narcissism. The behaviors they've identified fit Kate so closely it's scary:
PTypes personality types proposes Compensatory Narcissistic Personality Disorder as a pervasive pattern of unstable, "overtly narcissistic behaviors [that] derive from an underlying sense of insecurity and weakness rather than from genuine feelings of self-confidence and high self-esteem" (Millon), beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by ten (or more) of the following:
seeks to create an illusion of superiority and to build up an image of high self-worth (Millon);
has disturbances in the capacity for empathy (Forman);
strives for recognition and prestige to compensate for the lack of a feeling of self-worth;
may acquire a deprecatory attitude in which the achievements of others are ridiculed and degraded (Millon);
has persistent aspirations for glory and status (Millon);
has a tendency to exaggerate and boast (Millon);
is sensitive to how others react to him or her, watches and listens carefully for critical judgment, and feels slighted by disapproval (Millon);
is prone to feel shamed and humiliated and especially hyper-anxious and vulnerable to the judgments of others (Millon);
covers up a sense of inadequacy and deficiency with pseudo-arrogance and pseudo-grandiosity (Millon);
Continued:
has a tendency to periodic hypochondria (Forman);
alternates between feelings of emptiness and deadness and states of excitement and excess energy (Forman); (Admin note: what some people wonder was maybe bipolar is maybe just this)
entertains fantasies of greatness, constantly striving for perfection, genius, or stardom (Forman);
has a history of searching for an idealized partner and has an intense need for affirmation and confirmation in relationships (Forman);
frequently entertains a wishful, exaggerated, and unrealistic concept of himself or herself which he or she can't possibly measure up to (Reich);
produces (too quickly) work not up to the level of his or her abilities because of an overwhelmingly strong need for the immediate gratification of success (Reich);
is touchy, quick to take offense at the slightest provocation, continually anticipating attack and danger, reacting with anger and fantasies of revenge when he or she feels frustrated in his or her need for constant admiration (Reich);
is self-conscious, due to a dependence on approval from others (Reich);
suffers regularly from repetitive oscillations of self-esteem (Reich);
seeks to undo feelings of inadequacy by forcing everyone's attention and admiration upon himself or herself (Reich);
may react with self-contempt and depression to the lack of fulfillment of his or her grandiose expectations (Riso).
http://www.ptypes.com/compensatory-narpd.html
One problem with a narcissist who is that way largely because of how insecure they are, and I knew one just like this, is that people around them have a tendency to feel sorry for them and cut them a lot of slack. I'm guessing that people in Kate's life have picked up on the fact that so much of this stems from insecurity and maybe they feel sorry for her. It's easy to feel sorry for someone who doesn't feel good about themselves.
It's very dangerous because I can't tell you how many times I've heard, Well what Sally said to her son Tim was pretty mean I know, but you know she's just upset because she feels like she's never going to get another job again, she always feels like no one wants her.
As a result, Sally's bad behavior gets excused, and Tim, the victim, is not treated as the victim he is by those around him he trusts.
If she's doing a refi to 30 years that tells me that she can't afford the payments every month. It could help her hold on to the house a little longer. The mortgage is the least of her troubles as far as her financial situation. What about those tuitions and her legal fees. Can't wait to hear the reason(excuse) as to why she's pulling the kids out of private school.
As far as the 58,000 for closing costs...she probably buried those cost in the mortgage at closing. I doubt she paid out of pocket.
There's no way she's not in a panic right about now. If she goes a year without selling that house I would be shocked. At the very least she has to start living a more modest life style. The cars will be the first to go....Wow..here comes "reality" Kate..
Kat, spot on. A 30 year mortgage is a panic move. And a stupid one. 30 year mortgages might not even be in existence in the near future what with all the lending reforms going through.
Reminds me of that episode of the office where Michael buys a condo. And he thought he was in a 15 year mortgage. Then his coworker tells him buddy that's a THIRTY year mortgage. You will be....70 years old and still paying that thing.
That show is funny, and yet moments like that it sort of steps into the territory of hitting too close to home when it comes to people you feel sorry for.
I do think Kate gets away with verbal and emotional abuse for several reasons. People are afraid of her or think life is too short to deal with her. People give her slack because of the kids/victims or because she has to care for them. And I think some do realize she's just crazy and unhappy and don't want to add to her obvious misery and desperate behavior
@Kateplusmy8
Kate Gosselin
@louisemorier I dream of it everyday, no lie! Someday!!!!
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She's back to hinting about traveling. This tweet is about London. She dreams of it EVERY DAY??? Good grief women spend your time collecting coins in a jar and you'd get there. I got my last ticket to London (going in May, yea), no connection, for 800 bucks. Surely you can swing that at your mediocre job. Of course you'd have to fly coach.
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@Kateplusmy8 U don't want 2 see me upset! LOL. Little firecracker that. I am!
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Is this a variation of the "I'm not going to be ignored?"
Kate seems like the type of person who would refuse to sell a property at a loss, even if it's to her detriment to hold onto it. I doubt she will listen to anyone with sound financial advice if it's what she doesn't want to hear. And so much of her ego is tied to that house. Ironic, really, since she's the only one who thinks buying that property was a good idea in the first place.
185- Westbrooke -Thank you for your candid first hand post. Says a lot.
Admin, that info on compensatory narcissism is fascinating! I knew a woman like that as well - she had many people snowed into believing her life was soooo hard, but she was abusing their sympathies - big time. I figured out early on, not to give in to her - and she hated me for it (we worked together).
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