Kate is making a few Year in Review lists this week, and it's not pretty.
Said MSN TV of the Kate Plus 8 cancellation: "It was just the back-to-school treat many incredulous viewers across the nation were hoping for, incredulous that Kate Gosselin had stretched her 15 seconds out so long."
And David Hiltbrand of The Philadelphia Inquirer had this to say: "Certainly, we can all celebrate the fact that a pair of ruthless despots were deposed in 2011: Moammar Gadhafi and Kate Gosselin."
http://tv.msn.com/tv/year-in-review/year-in-reality-tv/?photoidx=5
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/27/3339278/dave-on-demand-the-television.html#storylink=cpy
454 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 454 of 454 Newer› Newest»@186 & #199, I think a few of the nonfans are expressing their anger/frustrations with Kate and exaggerating. I could not find any posts here saying the skating party is a lie and I do not believe Kate is stalking Jennifer Grey.
Twitter used to be fun to read, lots of humor. Not so much any more. There is some really outrageous stuff being said than cannot be verified. Just as Kate's fans have gone overboard to defend Kate, the haters have gone overboard to find things wrong.
I hope her Twitter is on its last leg.
Dallas Lady said (197) I bet it's so nice to have your daughter back home!
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Yes, it is! Sadly, except for this post, the world will never know how awesome she is.....oh!--except for her friends and family (on both sides of the Atlantic--imagine that), her past and future students (from preschool through college) and the many neighborhood children and parents who's lives she has touched as a nanny/babysitter. She is just so mediocre....
I quite imagine if Kate keeps up this life of giving her kids "private" parties, "VIP" that, this exciting thing, that expensive gift...as her kids get older I feel they might never be satisfied with something as simple as a trip to a local beach or to the local mall. No, they might state they want to go somewhere "Like we used to."
She is sort of setting herself up and her kids up for that feeling of never being satisfied with something simple. Birthday parties with bodyguards, trips during school, water slides, private parties I mean really. When and if they don't get what they want down the road...I'm just glad she'll have to deal with it and not me.
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Dallas Lady you are a wonderful mother. If Kate does read here she could take some tips on how to be a decent mother from all the regulars on this blog. It really bothers me when somebody comes onto this blog and starts putting down people who actually care about what happens to the Gosselin 8. I don't post very often but I enjoy reading all the different opinions here. I also love the way Admin runs the blog you can post your opinion and usually nobody attacks you. If you don't like it here then PLEASE LEAVE!!! I also want to wish Admin and everybody on this blog a Happy New Year, hopefully this year will be better for everyone including the G8
Red Sky, whoops, of course I meant Girl Scout for the girls.
Dallas, you were asking what huge event Kate has planned for tomorrow night (or what lie she will tell about it, who even knows anymore?). Maybe she can re-enact last new years eve and rent a small hotel conference room to have a 15 minute celebration with the kids dressed in a sequined minidress. That was such a sad fake little 'party' they had before dragging the kids to watch fireworks, which no one seemed to enjoy.
I had totally forgotten about that. How sad that was.
Dallas Lady said... 6
Red Sky, whoops, of course I meant Girl Scout for the girls.
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I know, Dallas. I was just yanking your chain. I had to chuckle when I read it...
Unisex scout troops may be a thing of the future. Who knew college dorms would become co-ed? Who knew women would become priests and men would become nurses? Girls playing football on a team with boys? Whoodathunkit?
Anything is possible in this big wonderful world.
Jeez Louise, I will never understand why people spend so much time on blogs that annoy the hell out of them. It's a great big internet, just look around.
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They do it to annoy the hell out of us. Even though the blog must irritate them, it gives them satisfaction knowing that they are martyrs for the cause.
A sheeple tweeted:
jenniegbrown
@Kateplusmy8 Do you play Words with Friends? If so, look me up-would love to play with you!
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I laughed out loud at this one. Heck, yes, she plays word games: GOOD BRA, NOT EXPELLED...
"Unisex scout troops may be a thing of the future."
The boy scouts will go kicking and screaming. The girl scouts have decided to allow transgender and lesbian youth into their troops. The Boy scouts still have their christian dogma pinned to their chest. Ironic thing is that its more christian to accept them then it is to exclude them. Jesus socialized with the lowest of the low. Looks like Boy Scouts of America let "What would Jesus do" out the window with the bathwater.
Campfire boys and girls might come together for some things. I doubt that they will completely integrate. There are some things that girls need to talk about and somethings that boys need to talk about.
Did Steve protect Kate from the parents and children while staking or did she brave it alone?.
Happy New Year. I wish you all peace, love, prosperity and happiness in the coming year.
From,
A sheeple
I really don't mind at all that Kate announced the kids went to a private skating party. That might have answered the question of "hey, why didn't Alexis ask me?" You know, some of the fans might get put out about that. ;-) Anyway, why not say it? I'm just delighted that she is making a stab at interacting with others outside of her comfort zone. I don't even consider that baby steps, I think it's a big leap for her. As a fellow sufferer of social phobia, I really must applaud Kate for this.
Now, whether she HOSTED or not is another entire
matter.
Even so, hosting is another way to avoid having to do much interacting. You can always be busy
with the details of the party and never really sit down with the guests. It's an avoidance technique I've used many times. Everyone has a great time, I can still talk with the guests on the other side of the kitchen, but I don't have to carry the conversation because they know I'm occupied with the ice for the drinks and cold foods or refilling the canapes trays, whatever. Everyone believes we've had a great party and I haven't put myself in the middle of having to chat long term with anyone, nor have I stood in the corner looking like that proverbial wallflower. Yes, these are friends, but when you simply are not comfortable in social settings, you do what you can to make it as enjoyable as possible for everyone, including yourself.
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I quite imagine if Kate keeps up this life of giving her kids "private" parties, "VIP" that, this exciting thing, that expensive gift...as her kids get older I feel they might never be satisfied with something as simple as a trip to a local beach or to the local mall. No, they might state they want to go somewhere "Like we used to."
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I totally agree. Can't you just see her yelling at them, accusing them of being spoiled brats, while the kids blink at her, genuinely confused. I wouldn't blame them--kids don't have the resources to spoil themselves.
C (Is for cookie.)
I quite imagine if Kate keeps up this life of giving her kids "private" parties, "VIP" that, this exciting thing, that expensive gift...as her kids get older I feel they might never be satisfied with something as simple as a trip to a local beach or to the local mall. No, they might state they want to go somewhere "Like we used to."
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An ice skating party at a rink is a common thing here - it is private because the rink offers this as birthday parties, a package deal. It's not a new thing, but goes back many, many years. Roller rinks, gymnastics programs, a bowling alley, even an historic tourist site here does the same thing (girls dress in vintage clothing, have tea parties). They close the venue to the public. I've held a few for my kids. Really, kids don't see it as something held for the privileged - it's a birthday party, or holiday party, or whatever.
At least they are getting out and being with other kids!
I do wonder, though, if these kids will have such high expectations that, in the future, they still will expect everything on a golden platter.
This is not just a PA thing you can do this just about anywhere if the rink offers it. It's not something everyone sees the need for though. A party can be just as fun, if not more fun, at a crowded rink. As long as you have a sectioned off area for cake and presents you're good to go. The things we do for our kids these days, maybe we should sit back a moment and ask ourselves if it's necessary.
And I still don't get why she had to mention it was private.
I really wasn't solely referring to the private party. My thinking is as these kids get older, aren't they being set up to sort of expect their lives to be catered around them? And only them? We've seen them go to baseball games and get put in that little box, stores shut down for them to go buy clothes, private ice rink. My thing is that it seems to be just them together.
Kate has quite possibly set these kids up to just expect it the rest of their lives is what I see, someone else might have an entirely different opinion on this. Kate jets off here and there first class, has bodyguard, spends on this luxury, that item and something else.
I mean she did seem pretty saddened to say, "The way we do things has to change and I will be lucky enough to get them to a local beach for the summer, maybe." Or something like that. I mean she set them all up I think to just expect the lifestyle to continue.
What a wake up call this might be. You set yourself up to live a certain standard and when that days comes your life can no longer support the manner in which you've been accustom could be a bit of a shake up.
Only reason she announced it was "private" was to make sure everyone else felt Kate does a better job for "her kids" that's all that is. She stated it to get attention, "Look at me see how well I can provide for them?" So middle school act, "Look at me because I'm better then you'll ever be."
She had to mention the party was private because she is nouveau riche. I think she has always coveted what others had, as she felt deprived and mediocre as a kid. Now that she can do some of the things she was so jealous of, she's gotta shout it from the rooftops. She needs external affirmation that she's ok because she is not ok internally. She needs a 12 step program but probably cannot humble herself to benefit from one
Annie (#13) Please don't put out a generalized statement about the Boy Scouts. They do A LOT of good. My husband is a leader and my boys are both involved in the troop. I don't generalize the Catholic Church as a group of back water pedophiles or the Muslims as a bunch of women haters.
BTW there are unisex troops popping up. My daughter was in Girl Scouts (which in our area is poorly run @ the top level) and we are going to enroll her in the unisex troop in the fall.
We held a BD party for my son at the roller rink when he was 5, and it was a disaster. It was dark and crowded, loud and hot. I was very nervous the entire time because he and the other kids kept darting off. We couldn't spot the kids on the floor. We adults couldn't really enjoy the event at all because we couldn't contain the kids. I thought my child was on the floor with one of his older cousins but couldn't spot him and searched and found him at one of the game machines. The man next to him was giving him money to play. He seemed nice but it made me very uneasy. I told him that's fine but not necessary, thank you just the same. Never again - my son doesn't even remember it now that he is older.
I guess what I am trying to say is I can understand making it private if one has the means to do so. The kids are famous and have fans that have pictures of them plastered all over their room and make videos of certain ones of them to love songs and post them on the internet. They paint portraits of them. These are some of the same people that KT engages and has become "friends" with on Twitter. They have their address and send them things which gives them a sense of entitlement. In spite of the fact that TLC tried to turn it around and make a star out of KT, it was and always will be about the kids. They just had a way of connecting with the camera and making their way into the hearts of millions of people. It was with regret that most people had to turn away from the show because of what they saw happening to the kids. The people who stayed and continued to embrace it accepted it in a sense. Better to see them go through hard times than not see them at all. She's playing with fire on the Twitter, who knew she would be one to play so close to the edge.
It seems that her new (real life) friends have the means to do things like this and have made the kids a part of their circle and have embraced KT as a friend. I would imagine that every parent there was a host/hostess. Just another one of KT's word games. Making sure that everyone knew it was private - that is just KT - some may change and grow, but that inherent need in a person to always try and out do everyone is something that may never change. Some would call that being competitive.
In any event, I think it is great for the kids. They are not "staring at the walls" and learning that the end of TLC was not the end of everything, in spite of what they may have been told.
Confused about the ice skating party. Did she host or were they invited? Kate has the gift of carefully wording her lies so there is a double meaning in what she says. As far as a private party goes, it doesn't necessarily mean whomever hosted the party shut down the rink just for themselves. I've had "private" birthday parties before for my kids at various locations and it's having reserved tables and food with the facility still open to the public. Kate needs to get over it that she and the kids are soooooo special.
I wonder if she'll be with Steve on New Year's? I guess she'll as always.
Meant to say in previous post I guess she'll LIE as always.
BTW, either BM stole the Internet celeb sites blurb or she sends out the info to them because it's word for word.
Remember, Kate is a narcissist and everything she does is for herself. The kids may have benefited by enjoying themselves at a skating party, but why announce the party on Twitter? Because she wants HER NAME relevant.
It's clear that she felt it necessary to specifically state that the party was "private" so that she sounds special, otherwise there would have been no reason to add the word. The kids are having fun, great, but "private" changes nothing. I had to laugh because she apparently thinks it's a prestigious thing, but in reality it's not...
...the local ice rink here, a very nice one, can be rented out "privately" for birthday parties, church youth groups, etc., and it is shockingly inexpensive. This is coming from someone who is very frugal by necessity and VERY middle class, lol, and I have always been surprised at the low cost. It's a popular place for "private" parties because of that reason. The community pools and gyms offer the same opportunity for a low cost.
They may or not have had the place to themselves, but it's definitely not prestigious to do this in many areas, lol, although maybe Kate thinks it is or wants it to be.
Ha, this article blames Kate for why Sarah Palin couldn't get another season of her show.
http://greencelebrity.net/2011/12/29/sarah-palin-lost-alaska-reality-tv-spot-to-ecofriendly-celebrity-jewel/
Ugh and now JEWEL is getting a reality show?? What the heck! Who thinks I really want to know what Jewel is up to??? Unless it's 1998.
Pity Party: Great post. I think you made some excellent and, IMO, very true points.
Kate retweeted the strangest petition, with 32 signatures on it.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/5/deny-parole-for-murderer-robert-lively/
All this guy has to do is get himself down to court and get a protective order for his children. The law is available to him, if the guy even gets paroled. The court doesn't care about a 32 signature petition online.
Also, a bit of TMI on this guy and his problems with his ex wife taking up with a prisoner! Kate thinks she has it bad with her ex.
Of course Kate shouldn't be mentioning the skating party at all, but if she does, there is no reason to mention that it is "private". If she doesn't want to hurt uninvited kids' feelings (as if she cared), she doesn't mention it at all.
As someone said above, "nouveau riche". That and Kate's unending need to fill the emptiness within with her version of things and economic status.
FYI-getting a lot of emails thinking I'm ignoring/forgetting u all. I'm doing my best 2 read&respond.Pls b patient w/ this busy girl!XO2all 2 minutes ago
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This almost deserves a post. Oh good god. Kate? Please read up on the several celebrities who have been hurt, stalked and a few even killed by their fans.
Almost all of them follow this same pattern. The fan thinks they have a relationship with you. You the celeb, cannot possibly fulfill the kind of relationship the fan wants. The fan starts to get irritated, demanding more and more contact, demanding to know why you are "ignoring" and "forgetting" them, demanding you keep up a relationship you as a celeb, mother and busy woman cannot possibly do much less want to do with some stranger.
For some, they quit at that point, disillusioned with you. But for a few, they could turn dangerous. Get a clue, Kate, there are eight kids under your roof!
Annie (#13) Please don't put out a generalized statement about the Boy Scouts. They do A LOT of good.
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I dont consider it to be a generalized statement when the organization went to the supreme court to uphold their right to exclude a cretin group of boys. (2000 Boy Scouts of America Vs. Dale) This group of boys includes some of my friends.
"They do A LOT of good." The same thing could be said about the Salvation Army and the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. That dose not mean that I support their organizations either. I never put money in the Salvation Armies buckets at Christmas. I take that money to the food bank instead. The Mormons also do a lot of charity work but, I refuse to give them any money. Both groups have specific doctrine that excludes my friends from their groups.
Annie, a lot of Christians think that some of the stances the Boyscouts have taken are indeed decidedly un-Christian. I know a lot of Christians who have little boys who won't participate. It will be interesting to see what happens with that group.
This almost deserves a post. Oh good god. Kate? Please read up on the several celebrities who have been hurt, stalked and a few even killed by their fans.
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I just read that tweet and was thinking the same thing. Kate has nobody to blame but herself. She started this by engaging these nutcases and calling them friends. She needs to pull this page now, and end it all. It's out of control. She has a public relations person who could figure out the best way to do this. I don't think her crack security team/road manager would have a clue how to handle it.
You're right, admin. The obsessive fans who think that they have a one-on-one relationship with her are the most dangerous. I see that Milo is relentless in establishing a personal relationship and offered to be her assistant. She'll keep this up, becoming more and more demanding. I can't, for the life of me, see that Kate can't see what is happening here.
Or, if she does, she doesn't know how to handle it. She thinks that she's so popular, such a celebrity and has so many fans that in order to stay relevant, she needs to keep responding.
That's not the case here. She only has a handful of these nuts. I really don't think that they will be ignored. I hope I'm wrong - for Kate's sake and for the security of these children. Nobody wants harm to come to any of them.
But, being the narcissist that she is, would she take anyone's advice, assess the situation, and do what needs to be done?
Ugh and now JEWEL is getting a reality show?? What the heck! Who thinks I really want to know what Jewel is up to??? Unless it's 1998.
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To end the year with the quote of the year. No better way to sum it up!
Warmth Of The Sun said... 34
The obsessive fans who think that they have a one-on-one relationship with her are the most dangerous. I see that Milo is relentless in establishing a personal relationship and offered to be her assistant. She'll keep this up, becoming more and more demanding.
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Kate thinks she owns the fans, and does not see that they own her.
She'll be very, very lucky if she gets out of these obsessive relationships without serious problems.
You're right, she needs to shut her Twitter feed down now, since she clearly has no idea how to use it safely and productively.
If Kate didn't actively encourage her fans by freely giving out her address to anyone who wants to send her something, then she wouldn't have this problem. Does she really think people are "gifting" her with NO expectation of something in return? These people are looking for ATTENTION when they send her things. And if they don't get it, then yes, you can bet your life they're going to complain.
If she feels "overwhelmed," then it's all on her. Try to curb your GREED, Kate. It's so very unattractive.
Gift of grab said... 37
If Kate didn't actively encourage her fans by freely giving out her address to anyone who wants to send her something, then she wouldn't have this problem.
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Absolutely. But I don't imagine that all of these e-mails are from those who sent her gifts. There have been some rather demanding tweets lately...where are you, why won't you answer me, checking my e-mails but nothing from you, etc. etc.
She encourages them by making her life, and the lives of her children, so very public. She's exposing herself, and as such, she is vulnerable. As bizarre as it is, these sheeple tweeties believe that because she opens up her life to them, that they have some kind of intimate relationship with her. She posts photos of a Christmas tree; they get a look at the inside of her house. She puts up photos of the kids in church; they see that she went to church, what the kids were wearing, and so forth. There was this recent tweet:
@Kateplusmy8 I love/miss them, Cara=sweet, Mady=mature, Lex=crazy,
Hannie=mothering, Aaday=smart, Colly=big heart, Lele=adorable,Joely=funny
A fan loves and misses the children? Calls the kids by their nicknames? They have inserted themselves into the lives of this family, and if I were the mother of these eight children, this would creep me out. Kate seems to be fine with it.
When she sends out her address so that they can send her gifts, she sees nothing wrong with it. They like her. Why should she NOT accept something from her adoring fans (HER reasoning, not mine!). However, on the opposite side of the coin, the gifter uses this as a way to get closer to her. Of course there's an ulterior motive on their part. There's a connection being established and they want a more personal relationship. It's not going to happen, but since these gifters mainly are tweens and teens, they don't understand that, and therefore, it could become a problem.
She needs to make it clear that she won't accept gifts. No gifts, no hurt feelings when she doesn't thank the giver, no e-mails and tweets to find out if the gift has been received.
She started this. Now she needs to figure out a way to stop it.
Note to Pink: If you're not three or four sheets to the wind, maybe you're reading here. Just wanted to wish you, and everyone here, the best in the new year. You can raise your glass in a toast. I'll raise the bottle. Why make the glasses dirty?
I saw Kate's/Beth's book at the Salvation Army store this a.m. How far they fall! Someone doesn't want it in their library. No surprise here. So many, many wasted chances this woman has had. It's sad, really, and less than mediocre. Happy New Year to all!
Apparently a post I made yesterday has been deleted. Why, I don't know. Yes, I supported NotASheeple's POV that she originally posted, but I did not use foul language nor did I insult anyone. I did express my opinion of one poster's theory about the children's mental state, but I did not insult the poster.
So what does that tell me? You do NOT tolerate opposing points of view, even if expressed in a respectful manner -- even though the administrator says you do. You aren't interested in what other people have to say if it doesn't toe the Official Blog Opinion. Here's the thing. Most of the time I'm in total agreement, but every once in a while I'm not. And apparently can't say so.
The upshot of this? Nothing. Just don't pretend you're something you aren't, and admit you aren't any better than Those Other Blogs you all slag.
Aeduko said... 40
Apparently a post I made yesterday has been deleted. Why, I don't know.
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Aeduko, if a comment of yours has disappeared, and you feel it violated no rules, you should email the Administrator to ask what happened to it.
As a long-time poster here, I can tell you that I have had huge numbers of my comments deleted by Blogger, on this site and on other ones. Sometimes I try to re-post, and sometimes I just let it go. Blogger regularly has issues, and comments do get lost.
Before you react so strongly, it might be worth finding out if your comment was removed intentionally, and if, so, how you might re-write it to conform to guidelines.
I've disagreed with a posters here to one degree or another, and my comments have gone through, probably because I've always spoken respectfully with an appreciation for other view points. The variety of opinions and interpretations here are something I value very much as a visitor.
If you want to do more than complain, it might be a good idea to ask first, criticize later.
Aeduko, there is no party line except when it comes to being rude. Some posts were deleted to shut down a derailing conversation that was about insulting other posters, not topics.
It is rare that I have to delete posts, and there have been many, many, many debates here--people regularly do not agree and regularly do not get deleted.
For instance just right now, there is some disagreement over the boy scouts. And it's being done respectfully. Nothing is getting deleted.
Here's another problem with what happened yesterday and why things were deleted, and it's called boards on boards.
Topics about how the blog is run, what should be posted, how people should think, whether things should be posted, why things were deleted, are boards on boards. I have a low tolerance for that, and it's the fastest way to derail a blog. People don't come to a blog (most blogs anyway) to talk about the blog. They come to the blog to talk about what the blog is about. If you want your blog to fail and tick everyone off, let people talk about the blog. If you want your blog to succeed, don't let people do that.
Televisionwithoutpity.com is one forum, of many, that has zero tolerance for boards on boards, and if you visit there, you understand why.
Aeduko said...
Apparently a post I made yesterday has been deleted. Why, I don't know. Yes, I supported NotASheeple's POV that she originally posted, but I did not use foul language nor did I insult anyone. I did express my opinion of one poster's theory about the children's mental state, but I did not insult the poster.
So what does that tell me? You do NOT tolerate opposing points of view, even if expressed in a respectful manner -- even though the administrator says you do. You aren't interested in what other people have to say if it doesn't toe the Official Blog Opinion. Here's the thing. Most of the time I'm in total agreement, but every once in a while I'm not. And apparently can't say so.
The upshot of this? Nothing. Just don't pretend you're something you aren't, and admit you aren't any better than Those Other Blogs you all slag.
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I've had similar things happen to me. I've written posts that followed all 4 rules: I didn't use anonymous, I didn't disrespect anyone, I didn't trash talk another blog, and it wasn't an insider story. Oh well. C'est la vie, I guess.
I do admit one time there was someone who was snarky toward me, and I was snarky toward him/her back, and my post got deleted because of it. I understood why, but couldn't understand why his post was allowed to go through.
Smiley, I don't remember deleting any of your posts.
Make sure you see "your comment was published" after you post your comment.
Also, some comments go to spam and there is no way to turn this off, and a big pain in the butt. I haven't emptied the spam in weeks unfortunately, but will try to make a note to do that ASAP.
If you don't get why a comment is gone ASK ME.
Because we just rarely delete comments, odds are, there was some other problem other than it was deleted. I've gone weeks without deleting one comment. Deleting one or two a day is unusual, not the norm.
@ Aeduko Mine were deleted and I figured out why from Admins post. I will point out that I was posting in support of Dallas Lady so, Aeduko, rest assured, that you weren't unfairly singled out. Also, I do apologize for the extra work you had to do, Admin.
No problem--I deleted more than I ever have in that just to cut that conversation off. I did not want that troll getting any attention and so even appropriate posts had to be swiffered. Sorry.
I appreciate all of your responses. Thank you.
I understand that these trolls need to be ignored. I've been saying this for some time. You just don't feed them. Admin asked bloggers just to ignore them because they are rude, done by s$$t-stirrers, and then she has to delete the follow-ups.
It's human nature, though, to defend a regular poster (such as DL) when they are attacked. I guess we just have to sit on our typing fingers and direct the topic elsewhere, as difficult as that might be to some. It's the only way to deal with nasty, obnoxious sheeple.
It's human nature, though, to defend a regular poster (such as DL) when they are attacked.
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It is indeed.
Haven't been commenting much but I'm still reading.
Thanks for the shout out Jude.
I want to wish you all a happy new year.
I just want to say thank you to the sheeple upthread that wished us a happy new year. I wish you the same, anonymouse sheeple.
With the full knowledge that I am unfortunately adding to it, I just have to say that I pop in here and yet again I end up plodding through posts about the blog, deleted posts, etc.
Can we all resolve to completely ignore all troll posts from here on in, trusting that Admin will delete them ASAP? And, as Admin stated, no more "board on board" posts? Please??
Regarding the Boy Scouts of America posts....
The national Boy Scouts of America has taken an anti-gay stance by disallowing openly gay people from positions of leadership. While I am sure that, in more progressive parts of the country, some of the local councils may choose to look the other way, the fact remains that the BSA has a culture of intolerance. In addition to the exclusion of gays, atheists and agnostics are also excluded. The courts have supported the BSA rights to establish leadership & membership criteria since they are a private organization.
My son was in Boy Scouts. At the time (15+ years ago) , I was unaware of their positions until a gay member of the clergy told me about it. This man and his partner had adopted three profoundly developmentally and physically disabled children and provided a loving, stable and supportive environment. His job involved working closely with children, and I never had a moment of concern. There were people who chose to leave, when he was hired, and many who stayed, were concerned. His dedication and love for education and learning was an inspiration to all of the families that came in contact with him. So, his experience and point of view did begin to influence my view of the BSA. My son stayed in for a few more years and we saw no evidence that anyone was excluded from the local program. The Scout leaders were wonderful and dedicated people. But, this doesn't change the fact that, as an organization, they hold intolerant views. For the thousands of children that are being raise in families which include a gay member, these attitudes cause real harm by singling them out for exclusion. I can commend the many people that have donated their time and made a real difference, and, at the same time, condemn their intolerant views. I believe that, in the near future, this will be seen as a civil rights violation, especially as the number of states that allow gay marriage continues to grow.
A current presidential candidate and Eagle Scout, Rick Perry, has compared gays to alcoholics, who are making the choice to drink. Rick Perry proudly wears his Eagle Scout pin on his lapel while campaigning, has used the homophobic views against his opponent, Mitt Romney, and has authored a book : "On My Honor: Why the American Values of the Boy Scouts Are Worth Fighting For. Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/03/us/politics/03perry.html .
Sorry for the long off-topic post. Seems like it is a very slow Gosselin news day, and I thought the topic warranted a little more attention.
Going Anon this time. I'am a REAL single mom doing it all on my own.
I have 2 kids with a dead beat dad. We wish we could have a few of the trips Kate got to have with the kids. My kids father hasent seen them in over 5 years.He's 19 thousand dollars behind in support.
The last movie I was able to take them to was Finding Nemo...I'am living on disability...was beaten as a 13 year old child. Have had 2 back operations.I have 2 plates and 6 screws in my back.I live in pain every day.
How I would love to be able to host a party for my kids...OMG a private party for my kids.
BUT YET,I cant.I dont ask for donations and my kids don't expect a free ride.They said thank you and love you mom for the bed pillows they got. The new socks and shoes.Oh and hey...they got 20 dollars put on their lunch cards so they could feel like "everyone" else.So they could get some french fries and a soda for a week.
Kate you make me sick. You have no idea what it means to be needy.
I wish my kids could have a 1/4 of what you think Jons kids deserve.
"Since she likes the sun so much, she ought to be out there on the tractor or riding mower when it warms up. I love it."
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Not everyone loves to mow. I enjoy planting hundreds of perennials and shrubbery, but I hate mowing. I once tried to mow six acres in the heat of July and August and I thought I was going to die. It has nothing to do with being lazy. Sometimes mowing needs to be done twice a week, plus the trimming around the fences, driveway, mulch beds, pool area. I'd never do it again, and this is one thing I don't blame Kate for - not one bit!
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