And it's that hysterical, and rather cotton-brained secretary Mrs. Wiggins from The Carol Burnett Show. (Just because we feel like being completely silly this long weekend. Happy MLK Day.)
Admin, same sister-in-law is just what you describe, you can see her waiting to jump in when you stop talking - but usually she talks about how wonderful she is. Much like Kate. But yes, when presented with the opportunity to either sympathize, or even empathize, Kate chooses to make it about her. It is so weird.
As for Milo, she's off her rocker, obviously. And seeking attention from her precious Kate as she copies her on every tweet to that other person. She cleary VERY lonely. I sort of give her a pass because I hate to see anyone suffer. Kate has not suffered. She's just a pig.
Dallas Lady said... 47 Her latest tweet burns me the HELL UP.
Hey Kate:
Guess what? Vacations DO cost money. I realize your classless grifting orange ass has been sent on vacations with nannies on TLC's dime for years. I realize you now think you can MAKE money going on a vacation by trying to trick your ten poor hapless fans into paying way more than they should for five minutes of your joy-killing presence.
But for everyone else? Vacations COST MONEY. In some cases, a lot of money. Some are worth it, like saving up to see the Coliseum in Rome or stand in a markplazt at Christmas in the snow or seeing the Great Wall of China. Some are NOT worth it, and I'd put your sham cruise squarely in that category.
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Such anger over something so petty. Why are you the arbiter of whether a vacation is "worth it?" I don't happen to be a cruise person, but for those who are into cruises the price may be worth it TO THEM. I'd venture to guess that many things you choose to spend your $ on would hold no interest to me whatsoever. Who cares? You spend your $ how you please and let others do the same.
Dang, I meant to say this before sending. Kate and my sister-in-law continue to do those things because nobody ever calls them on their crap! This one was once telling me that a friend or neighbor died - and her family survived because SHE got together a rotating meal plan for people to take meals to the husband and children. So......these people would have also starved to death if it wasn't for her? Instead of asking her that, I said, "So there's no KFC or grocery deli if you girls hadn't done that?" She was speechless. Literally could not speak, mouth hanging open, unable to say a word. How fun would it be to see someone do that to Kate on one of her stupid interviews? I'd get pay-per-view for that one!
I don't happen to be a cruise person, but for those who are into cruises the price may be worth it TO THEM
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They wouldn't, in their wildest imaginations, take this cruise if it wasn't being hawked by Kate. These sheeple aren't into cruises, either. How many of them do you suppose actually cruised before? The only reason, and I mean ONLY reason that they are going is because they think it's going to be one big pajama party/girl's day and night out with Kate. And for that they are being scammed...big time, especially since an intimate up close and personal relationship with her is not going to happen. They don't know this, and they are spending money that they don't have because they think that this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be near her. It may not be deception on Kate's part because she's not actually coming out and saying how much time she will spend slumming with them, but they're going to find out. By then, it's going to be too late. Credit cards will be maxed out.
Perfect example of expectations of up close and personal encounters on the cruise:
miloandjack @Kateplusmy8 Do U know how 2play Kate? We can have teams play on cruise! A chance 4U 2challenge him again! He thinks he's invincible! LOL
Layla said ...She will sell her soul to make the tuition payments for them, because she realizes that if she doesn't, then we all will know she's hurting for money. NO WAY her pride is going to let that happen. ----------
I don't think that's true. She would just blame others and give odd, untrue reasons and sob stories. Then she would pull the kids out so fast it would make their headspin just as hard as they do when Khate steers them by their heads.
I knew a woman like Kate, once. She was divorced and remarried and would travel all over, taking her kids from her second marriage only because she didn't have a babysitter (her parents told her flat out that they would not watch the kids and she wouldn't pay to leave them with a hired sitter) but leaving her kids from her first marriage with their Dad. She went to Australia, Great Britain, France, Canada, in addition to traveling across the US. She had received a large payout of money at one point and used it to finance her "lifestyle". Limos to the airport, only the best restaurants, hotels, etc.
Needless to say, her kids from her first marriage were extremely resentful of their younger half siblings and complained loudly to their Dad that it wasn't fair that Mom took the other kids on the trips with her all the time and not them. She finally caved and took them on a few trips to places she enjoyed going to, but by then she'd spent through most of her money and eventually - you guessed it - lost her lavish lifestyle to bankruptcy.
Meanwhile, the older kids still consider the younger half siblings pests and spoiled. Mind you, these older children were given money, toys, clothes, electronics, etc. from both their maternal grandparents, Dad, and (to be fair) their Mom as well. They never wanted for anything.
What I'd like Kate to bear in mind is that letting the twins do things simply because they're a) older and b) easier to manage (trick or treating, trips alone with Mom, etc.) and c) it's cheaper is going to create resentment and anger in her younger children, if it hasn't already.
"She will sell her soul to make the tuition payments for them, because she realizes that if she doesn't, then we all will know she's hurting for money. NO WAY her pride is going to let that happen."
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She has no pride. Anyone who grifts and begs so much has no pride. I think that she would let everyone know she's hurting for money. Didn't she cry poverty awhile back? She couldn't decide whether to play the role of a single mom in deep financial trouble (everything is so expensive), or to continue to stay relevant as a wealthy celebrity (new cars, trips, her swimming pool, her leather sofa). She was poor one day and wealthy the next.
Would it surprise anyone if she started grifting for school tuition, hoping someone helps her out - you know, education is so important, I'm a single mom, school is so expensive, etc. etc., and magically, the sheeple will take up a collection for tuition money.
Perfect example of expectations of up close and personal encounters on the cruise:
miloandjack @Kateplusmy8 Do U know how 2play Kate? We can have teams play on cruise! A chance 4U 2challenge him again! He thinks he's invincible! LOL
***** That does sound like a high expectation. I am sure some of her most prominent fans will expect to be invited to Kate's cabin for 10 p.m. wine and sushi. Some of the second class-ers are probably hoping for movie, popcorn and SoBe water with Kate in her cabin on Friday night. I can't see it happening, but I fear this is their dream and their point in booking this cruise. THAT would be "worth it" to them. Anything less will probably be seen as a rip-off and a huge snub.
miloandjack @Kateplusmy8 Do U know how 2play Kate? We can have teams play on cruise! A chance 4U 2challenge him again! He thinks he's invincible! LOL ~~ Can someone puhleeeeeeze explain to me what the hell M&J is talking about? I just don't understand what kHate is challenging him with/about. M&J is certifiable!
What I'd like Kate to bear in mind is that letting the twins do things simply because they're a) older and b) easier to manage (trick or treating, trips alone with Mom, etc.) and c) it's cheaper is going to create resentment and anger in her younger children, if it hasn't already.
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Not that I want to give Kate any credit, but it seems like the treatment between the twins and the tups is kind of evening out now since the tups got so much special treatment during the show (extra birthday parties and the like). I think it's nice for the twins to get some special time with their mom, I just wish it wasn't another "working vacation" like on this cruise. I also wish she gave her sons some special time too. And one on one time for those kids!
You only have to look at all of Kate's encouraging tweets to the desperate fans to know this is a scam. She is building up an incredible fantasy of the relationships they will have on this cruise we all know Kate won't stand for in real life. If she does indeed invite them up for 10pm sushi and sake and shouts to them across the hall and sunbathes together with them, prove me wrong. The sheeple fancy themselves Jack on Titanic, invited up to dinner with a much less classier Kate (Gosselin, not Winslet) and all the other beautiful rich snobs. There they'll form a beautiful friendship with her, write each other notes about meeting up with each other later, draw each other wearing expensive diamonds, and die in each other's arms.
They don't know that they will be rowing with the other slaves in steerage, perhaps allowed up for air for a brief time, and that that movie is just a movie, it never really happened!
For some the horse craziness never ends. lol I don't have any to ride anymore (my own or friends) but am still as crazy at 50+ yrs old.
As for Kate getting them a horse I just cringe thinking about it. As much as I love horses I know anything can happen with regards to safety. Kate knows nothing and those kids could get seriously hurt even on a super tame horse. Plus a horse's health can be ruined just from things like overeating grains or grass. I can't see Kate taking the time to learn and watch things like that. She wouldnt be able to take time out of her selfish life to do it.
Actually I had to cringe about the kids just riding at a friend or neighbor's. It's very dangerous. Close friend of the family, my sister's very close friend, died at 19 years old at one of the many Northeast horse farms. She was majoring in animal husbandry and bent down to look at a horse's leg. For whatever reason, the horse got spooked and kicked straight on her neck. He broke her neck and she died. It was AWFUL and a stark reminder these animals are big, they are dangerous though not usually malicious, and you have to be so, so careful.
I would urge people not to let their kids just ride wherever until the child has gotten extensive lessons not just in how to ride, but safety. By all means these kids should get LESSONS if they want to ride horses. Safety training is built right into the lessons. Fork over some of that cruise money Kate and get these kids what they want.
During the seven days, there are only three days with scheduled activities with Kate. She makes it sound like they will all be sleeping in the same hallway and be next door neighbors. This impression is wrong. Kate will probably be off in a different part of the ship. I dont blame Kate for this. I would not want to have fans knocking on my door while I try to sleep or get quiet time. The problem is that she is making it sound like she will be with her fans every moment of the cruse. Kate will NOT be with them every moment. She will be with them during the scheduled times. There will be no private moments during that scheduled time.
My biggest scam alarm right now is the fuel surcharge fee. The website for this cruse says that there will be a fuel surcharge of $70/day. THe RC website says
For US reservations, Royal Caribbean International reserves the right to impose a fuel supplement on all guests if the price of West Texas Intermediate fuel exceeds $65.00 USD per barrel. The fuel supplement for 1st and 2nd guests would be no more than $10 USD per guest per day, to a maximum of $140 USD per cruise; and for additional guests would be no more than $5 USD per person per day, to a maximum of $70 USD per cruise.
Either the kate cruse website is wrong or Alice Travel is trying to get more money off the fans by jacking up the fuel surcharge fee.
I worry about any of the kids going on the cruse. It would be a great experience for the twins to go on. I just worry about their safety. I hope they have a chaperone (ie body guard/ nanny) with them at all times on the cruse. They deserve to have some time to relax and enjoy the kids entertainment on the ship.
I am sure Kart looks at herself in the mirror often and long, and I am also sure she has never seen the comparison to Mrs Wiggins. That is hilarious! What a chuckle that gave me, thanks!
Pam said... 178 ouderkirkmike @Kateplusmy8 Did "The Cupcake Guy" ever try to get ahold of you? 1 hour ago from LG Phone
@ouderkirkmike lol no... Not my type :) 1 hour ago - Twitterrific
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Did you see his tweet to Khate before that?
ouderkirkmike @Kateplusmy8 Your the hottest mom ever. Love ya Kate
Kateplusmy8 ouderkirkmike aw thanks for your vote :)
He's been tweeting her for a while, but that's how he finally got her attention today.
This guy is a real pervert, but Khate's too stupid to care. She'll tweet any guy that tweets her that she's "hot".
A few weeks ago, he got the attention of the "haters" on Twitter because when a fan tweeted something admittedly crude about Khate, he jumped in (he wasn't part of the tweet), and replied to the tweet, but took it up a disgusting notch:
TallisF @_Jacquesr @Kateplusmy8 Katie creams her thong just to be in a tabloid. Katie was source of rumor, she is desperate. sheeple help her!
ouderkirkmike @TallisF Oh what a yummy creamie thong that must be..
That resulted in "haters" tweeting him what a pig he was, and then he responded back that they were all fat, miserable housewives, and pathetic bitches. (This coming from a guy who tweets women on TV, says they're "like family", tells them he loves them and misses them, tweets them that they're hot, beautiful, sexy, and he fantasizes about Kate's "yummy creamie thong", eww).
He has a thing for Taylor Swift, Britney Spears, Chelsea Handler, Dana Jacobson (an ESPN anchor), Eden's Edge (a country group, lol, I had to Google that), Meghan Linsey (from the country duo Steel Magnolia, I had to Google that too), Hope Solo and a few other women. He tweets Dana all the time. He claims he's 40 and has a daughter (according to one of his tweets).
@chelseahandler And I love you and your vodka drinking ass.
@djacobsonespn Yup. He's baaaack. Miss you Dana
@djacobsonespn Dana I really wanna dinner date with you. Mike in Grand Rapids.
@taylorswift13 Taylor I am 40 yrs old and have never cared for celebrities. But u r so talented.
@taylorswift13 Can't wait to see u in Grand Rapids. Would love to say hi with my daughter. Please
@hopesolo Yuk. I still think your the hottest woman ever
@taylorswift13 Everything you do is adorable. I am a huge fan even though my guy friends give me crap. Love what your about. Mike in G.R
@taylorswift13 Happy Birthday to the coolest woman on earth....
@taylorswift13 Taylor I am 40 and at ur GR show is the first time being star struck. Ah oh oh oh can't get it out of my head ;)
@djacobsonespn Not being disrespectfull at all. But damn your Hottt in leather..
@chelseahandler Jen's my new fave I'd like to go down on. She overtook Sarah. But still want you a lil even though you've been ruined
@djacobsonespn Yup miss u bunches in Mi......
@djacobsonespn Will you wear the leather jacket tomorrow pleeeaze. Go out lookin sexy
I love Twitter cause I got to tell Meghan how much I enjoy her voice and her beauty. Eden's Edge also rock's. Support you guys nomatter what
@djacobsonespn Dana you Jaybird and Skip are like family and I will truely miss you. Thanks for responding to my Tweets with honest
@chelseahandler Merry Christmas to my favorite drunk. Sexy one at that
@chelseahandler Watching slut...
@shaktipat1 Tweet some funny shit beautifull. Miss you
@djacobsonespn Your so adorable. I didnt like you for like 5 years. Then u stepped it up and I adore you now.
He has a preoccupation with Khate's KIDS. I'm sorry, I do not think it's normal for a 40 year old dad to be tweeting about how much he likes some stranger's kids on TV. It's downright creepy for some guy to talk about her kids and how he loves them and misses them on TV, while also tweeting Khate that she's hot, and fantasizing about her "yummy creamie thong" (again, eww):
ouderkirkmike @Kateplusmy8 Awesome cake Kate. Wish you the best on your run.
@TekkeeVee Did you see sexy Kate in her running shirt. Just dreamy. Have a good night
@Kateplusmy8 Good job Kate. Proud of you. I would never even attempt that
@Kateplusmy8 I just love Kateplusmyeight. How can I get an autograph?
@Kateplusmy8 You don't have to bust any rumors cause I love Kateplusher8...
@Kateplusmy8 Night Kate. Please block all the trash that sends nonsense to you.
@Kateplusmy8 Ok Kate I sent a nice tweet from the heart. Then was attacked by your hater mob. I still love @Kateplusmy8
@Kateplusmy8 Your haters led me to there trap and I fell for it. Oops my bad. I love me some Kate G.... Merry Christmas to u and ur Babies
@dusty1100 Read the compliments from her fans. People do like her and her kids.
@Kateplusmy8 How's the lovely Kate today.
@Kateplusmy8 Night Kate your the best and so are your lil one's. God Bless
@Kateplusmy8 I love me some Kate!!!!
Kateplusmy8 Mady:'I hate2wrap' i sd'imagine how i feel!' Mady:'but u lik2 wrap' Me:'no i don't' so she talked loudly ovr me saying'OHYES I LOV2WRAP!'
ouderkirkmike @Kateplusmy8 How precious.
@Kateplusmy8 Merry Christmas to Kate and the 8 cutest kids ever. Hope big things happen in the New Year.
@Kateplusmy8 Back to reality today. Still supporting you and yours. Love ya
@Kateplusmy8 Have a blessed New Year Kate and kids.
@Kateplusmy8 Its weird that a small mob sends your fans ignorant tweets. They should put that energy in somethin pos. I love Kateplusher8
@Kateplusmy8 I miss seeing you and the kids. Huge fan here that wishes you the best.
@Kateplusmy8 Your the hottest mom ever. Love ya Kate
@Kateplusmy8 Did "The Cupcake Guy" ever try to get ahold of you?
Oh, one more thing. Shortly after he started going at it with the haters a few weeks ago, Paige tweeted something random from school. She didn't even tweet Khate. It was just a random tweet on her page, but he saw it and replied to Paige, by telling her how harassed he was by the haters. Obviously he's been reading Khate's page and knew Paige was a huge fan, BUT he has to know she's only 17!
Paige_Kate8fan Hahaha a kid just fell in a desk! The desk fell too haha!
ouderkirkmike @Paige_Kate8fan Omg I sent Kate a nice tweet lastnight and got hatetweets allnight and just got more. Whats wrong with people?
Next thing you now, he's following Paige AND she's following him.
Anonymous said..."And I believe in letting adults make decisions for themselves. Since there is no evidence that this is a scam, I certainly wouldn't be telling anyone that it is. It is incredibly patronizing to treat people as if they are too stupid to think for themselves." $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Anon, you must be Julie May C. or a rep from Alice travel. Because someone who didn't stand to line their pockets off this debacle wouldn't mind our attempts to make the fans fully aware of what is going on here.
Four people have publicly stated they are going. The majority of fans flat out said they can't afford it, good for them for saying so. And that should have been the end of it. Instead of Kate saying she understood, SHE patronized them and tried to guilt them out by twatting "It's a shame $$ has to get in the way of family vacations and making memories" WTF! How freakin' insensitive is that? This from the woman who had TLC pay for ALL of her family vacations for the last 5 years PLUS she was PAID to take them.
Sheeple are not flocking to book this cruise so she's uping the ante by implying they are going to all be BFFs for the whole cruise. If you think it is ok for her to continue to prod people who have said they can't afford it by making some vague promises of extra time with her, then there's something really wrong with you.
Anonymous who won't follow rule #1 and pick a name said: "It is incredibly patronizing to treat people as if they are too stupid to think for themselves."
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There's nothing incredibly patronizing about it, when these people have demonstrated over and over again that they ARE too stupid to think for themselves. I remember one sheeple who tweeted Kate from a parking lot, asking if she could get electrocuted in a thunderstorm, or what she should do because she was constipated, and asked advice because her roommate was in the bathroom and she couldn't get in there when nature called; or the one whose baby was crying for two days and she wanted to know if she should put her on the washing machine; or the one who stood outside like an idiot, waving a poster in the parking lot; or the one who wanted to know why she could never balance her checking account and could Kate take a look at it. Yes, these people can really think for themselves! Some of them are so dumb that they could throw themselves on the ground and miss.
Their adoration of Kate, and the possibility of becoming her best friend, clouds their ability to make a wise decision on how to spend their money. Collectively, their IQ is so low that they trip over it, and that's being generous.
Then, there's this...Kate totally engaging them and stringing them along until they sign up for the cruise:
MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Hope U will not be disappointed when U actually meet me if this cruise thing pans out!
Kateplusmy8 @MiloandJack nope. Totally excited!
Sure, she is...really excited. So excited that she's calling in the troops to make sure she had adequate protection from these over-the-top nutcases.
As far as I know, no one here has tried to personally contact anyone going or considering going, not even via Twitter. No one is trying to contact Kate or the travel agency to stop Kate. I heard one person asked the travel agency how much interest they are getting, but I didn't hear that person or anyone trying to stop them from putting this event on.
What we are doing, is talking about problems we see with this cruise, things we have seen misrepresented based on our own cruise experience or experience of those we know well, the bait and switch as to whether the kids will be there or not for the sheeple to feast their eyes on, the gross underestimating of the true cost of this trip that is going on plus all the hidden fees, discussing Kate's efforts to promote this via her tweets, including making it seem like everyone who goes will be able to cuddle up with her at the slumber party, her interactions with clearly unstable fans, her insensitive responses to those who can't afford it (implying you can't make memories without money, what an insult to the mediocre who give their families wonderful memories every day without a lot of money), and on and on. We're talking about it, period, and nothing more.
I will not live in a place where people can't speak their minds about things that they find shady. Especially things incredibly shady and borderline misrepresentative if not outright fraudulent, like this is.
Also, it really, really bugs me that Kate is outright preying on the disabled, the medically fragile, the feeble minded, the obsessive personalities, and the teenagers. In fact it's rare you see her not talking to someone that isn't in one of those categories or more than one. So many of them have fully owned these, we know this is what they are. Well, not the feeble minded one but any sheeple that tweets Kate to ask her a question about their sick child is stupid.
WTF. These are the very people we as a society should look out for the most. I'm sure many of us have someone close to us who is in that category, I know I do, and I know if I knew about a celeb was leading them on like Kate is and conning them out of what little money they have, I'd have some real ass kicking to do.
You know it's strange the way I've sort of come around on the fans. At first I thought they were a real vile bunch, and really wanted nothing to do with them. But now I feel sorry for them and protective of them, and I want Kate to back off from them. Any fan who has been with her this long has something seriously wrong with her upstairs--so back off, Kate. At the end of the day, they are people. I don't really feel that sort of disgust with them anymore, I feel more like I'm watching someone be bullied and just want to see that bully carted off and away from them.
Every single day adults talk to each other about concerns they have. This is no different than if two women have a conversation at the water cooler about a cruise, and woman A tells woman B, who is dying to go on a cruise, about her bad experience, the hidden fees, getting sick, the questionable safety record, the bad food.
Woman A is not trying to be "superior." Woman A is sharing information and hopefully prevent woman B from having a bad time, or at least if she does go, does her research carefully.
This is how adults communicate and help each other. Just because you are sharing concerns with someone doesn't mean you're trying to tell the other person you're superior. Just because you have information someone else doesn't doesn't mean you're better. And just because someone is disabled, or young, or stupid, doesn't mean you are superior because you're not. Gosh I can't imagine going through life and thinking that every adult that ever shares information with me and help me is trying to be superior.
Group hug time around Kate for six hours a day, followed by bachi ball and tournament checkers, a fancy meal where they interlock arms and feed each other spaghetti ala Lady and the Tramp, followed by slow dancing to Lionel Richie in the deck club, perhaps a midnight glass of sake, and then retire to Kate's room where they will put on PJs, some Taylor Swift on the iPod, and tell boyfriend stories and play truth or dare. Brunch the next morning after cuddling up to sleep in Kate's bed. Somewhere along the way, Kate will tell Lights Out Man to suck it, we're on her schedule now.
Damn, I'm wondering if I missed anything but I refuse to break my personal rule of automatically scrolling past any post that is made by any "Anonymous".
However, I did enjoy reading the excellent points made in the posts by Wayward, Midnight Madness, and Admin.
I get the impression that someone is awfully concerned about what THE most read Gosselin blog (by sheeple and non-fans alike) is saying about this cruise.
These are tweets that this guy sent to other people, not Kate, correct? Yes, he tweeted Kate, and he is clearly nuts, but I thought admin said that the tweets posted here should be directly related to Kate, or should come from Kate. Just trying to clarify the tweeting rules here.
Nobody Likes a Narcissist (NLAN) said... 40 Damn, I'm wondering if I missed anything but I refuse to break my personal rule of automatically scrolling past any post that is made by any "Anonymous".
I dont think you are missing much NLAN. I scanned through a few of the posts and it seems like they are responding to a broken record The Anonymous poster keeps repeating the same thing over and over again. All broken records should be taken out to the trash.
These are tweets that this guy sent to other people, not Kate, correct? Yes, he tweeted Kate, and he is clearly nuts, but I thought admin said that the tweets posted here should be directly related to Kate, or should come from Kate. Just trying to clarify the tweeting rules here.
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That's the general rule that I ask people to follow but don't really have time to enforce.
This is a good reminder that I don't want this to be a playground to bash tweeties. I have no problem talking about what is said as it relates to Kate, the cruise, confusion and delusions about how the cruise will be, nor do I have a problem pointing out potential dangers to Kate or the kids. But bashing just to bash isn't preferred. I'd actually prefer people not include tweetie names except when it comes to a few of the regulars. But I also don't want to be the land of 1,000 blog rules.
It is also my opinion that the Bernie Madoff comparison is ridiculous and truly insulting to those who lost their life savings to that man.
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Bernie's victims lost their life savings, and for many sheeple who believe that they will socialize with Kate, the cruise fare may be THEIR life savings.
"Somewhere along the way, Kate will tell Lights Out Man to suck it,"
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...or give Steve instructions to punch his lights out!
Amazing this "underworld" that goes on every day I've been more aware of since following this Greek tragedy. At what point do you let it happen, or say, no this isn't okay with me?
These are tweets that this guy sent to other people, not Kate, correct? Yes, he tweeted Kate, and he is clearly nuts, but I thought admin said that the tweets posted here should be directly related to Kate, or should come from Kate. Just trying to clarify the tweeting rules here.
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That's the general rule that I ask people to follow but don't really have time to enforce.
This is a good reminder that I don't want this to be a playground to bash tweeties. I have no problem talking about what is said as it relates to Kate, the cruise, confusion and delusions about how the cruise will be, nor do I have a problem pointing out potential dangers to Kate or the kids. But bashing just to bash isn't preferred. I'd actually prefer people not include tweetie names except when it comes to a few of the regulars. But I also don't want to be the land of 1,000 blog rules.
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Sorry if I broke any rules, Admin. Of course, I'd prefer the admonition to have come from YOU as the owner of this blog. Nice to see that "Sheep Travel Inc." is so concerned and in need of a clarification of the rules. Too bad she's not concerned about the repeated violation of Rule #1 tonight by "Anonymous". It's the FIRST rule, but this person is not only repeatedly posting comments, but also being engaged. Odd.
In any event, I wasn't posting tweets to "bash" the tweeter. I simply posted some of his tweets to other women on TV (as well as many of his tweets to Khate) just from these last few weeks to show what he's tweeting other women, including Khate. It does illustrate what kind of person this guy is. Twitter is a VERY public forum, and that is why I don't bother removing their names that THEY have chosen for Twitter.
Most troubling are his tweets that she's hot, sexy, and must have a "yummy, creamie thong" (eww) while also tweeting about how much he loves her kids and misses watching them on television. That is certainly not someone she should be tweeting with or encouraging. However, now that he called her "hot", he got her attention and I'm sure, based on her past behavior, she will start replying to more of his tweets as she did today.
On another note, I really wish people wouldn't feed the trolls.
The first post that started this called people "petty." Then it specifically, and snottily, accused Dallas Lady of being "the arbiter of whether a vacation is worth it." This blog has had a very friendly tone all day, which I guess pissed someone off. This post was nasty from the beginning, but I gave it the benefit of the doubt and let it through. And, it incidentally targeted the same nice person DL as was attacked last time this game was played. Hmmm indeed.
The truth is, right out of the gate it was insulting, and insulting specific posters. That is not a friendly "calm" debate, that is a troll who wants to get everyone worked up, then turn around and cry censorship when I finally get sense enough to stop it. I know this game, it's the same playbook every time. You don't have to agree, but move on. Unless you sincerely want to debate whatver it is you want to debate without other posters.
NLAN said...That is certainly not someone she should be tweeting with or encouraging. However, now that he called her "hot", he got her attention and I'm sure, based on her past behavior, she will start replying to more of his tweets as she did today.
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How many times today since he called her "hot," has she responded to him, and what were her comments? She certainly does attract the weird ones, doesn't she?
Admin, on a lighter note, I think you'd find this cartoon funny (it was posted at Preesi's last week) - a perfect depiction of Khate, Steve, and the sheeple on their cruise:
NLAN said...That is certainly not someone she should be tweeting with or encouraging. However, now that he called her "hot", he got her attention and I'm sure, based on her past behavior, she will start replying to more of his tweets as she did today.
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How many times today since he called her "hot," has she responded to him, and what were her comments? She certainly does attract the weird ones, doesn't she?
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So far, just once after the "hot" comment:
ouderkirkmike @Kateplusmy8 Your the hottest mom ever. Love ya Kate
Kateplusmy8 @ouderkirkmike aw thanks for your vote :)
ouderkirkmike @Kateplusmy8 Did "The Cupcake Guy" ever try to get ahold of you?
Kateplusmy8 @ouderkirkmike lol no... Not my type :)
But, now that he got her attention, I'm sure she will be replying to him more.
Re Bernie Madhoff fleecing people of their life savings....isn't thst what Kate's doing? Especially to the teenagers? $1900 could easily BE their life savings.
Does anyone think it's weird how Kate talks on twitter? Does this sound like a 36 yo to you? She sounds like she's 8.
I also think it's very un-nerving the way she even acknowledges the people that say icky things.
And I REALLY don't like her interacting with under-age kids. Especially in a format where their parents could be pretty unaware of what's being said. And instead of saying check with your parents, she's saying "do it". I don't like that at all.
Not something a respsonsible adult does. No matter who they are.
I guess I see things differently, but I don't think M/J is crazy at all. I think she is very crafty and is beating KT at her own game.
But then I am the one who thinks the kids are much more savvy than given credit for on the show. I think they learned early on how to make good TV, but their competitive mom got in the way and messed it all up, by insisting the show become about her.
(Instead of Kate saying she understood, SHE patronized them and tried to guilt them out by twatting "It's a shame $$ has to get in the way of family vacations and making memories")
$$ not coming in from tlc is what stopped her family vacations and making memories.
It would appear that all her tanning and frying her bleached out mess of hair has also FRIED what little brain she had and she cannot remember a damn thing she says from one minute to the next. She usually contradicts herself in the same sentence! (much as I don't want to read or talk about her, couldn't let this one pass)
Just had the thought of TLC. I can only imagine the relief the suits there must be feeling. They have detached from Kate. Her current antics do not reflect back to them. Don't you just wonder what they say in the privacy of their own offices? I am sure they aren't analyzing their responsibility in this disaster. But, I am equally sure they are relieved to have Kate out of their current programming.
NLAN Said... I get the impression that someone is awfully concerned about what THE most read Gosselin blog (by sheeple and non-fans alike) is saying about this cruise ************* Oh, you got that one right, NLAN! The Sheeple love to dismiss the "Haters" as being a foul-mouthed, irrational, unbalbanced pack of animals, and they can't stand that some of what I would call "Dissenters" (all of us here) can express rational, well-thought-out concerns about this woman. They want all of us to go away since the kids are off TV, but the problem is that Kate is still using them for marketing purposes, and now she is using the people who support her to squeeze everything she can get out of them. The odd thing is, they are so wrapped up in wanting Kate to succeed in making a living by fleecing others rather than working a "real" job. It's as if, by watching her refuse to do an honest day's work, they think she (and, by extension, they) is/are giving us the finger. This is not a contest to destroy or to save Kate. This is a group of concerned citizens who recognize a monstrous user/grifter in their midst and hope to keep her from doing any more damage to the kids or to the people who adore her. At first it was the kids who needed saving from her malignant narcissism. Now she's casting her net (web?) wider and trying to find vulnerable members of the general public to use to meet her own goals. She doesn't care about the damage she may cause them, as long as she gets what she wants. She can't hurt any of us, because we won't give her anything, but she'll sure as heck take from them until they have nothing left to give.
Oops, that was supposed to be "unbalanced". Can you believe I was an English major in college? I bring shame upon all the other English majors out there. Sorry, guys!
I think the thing with Kate that boils my blood is that she has been so used to grifting and relying on OTHERS to support her and the tups since Day One (over 7 years)- church, fans, sponsored freebies galore, TLC, book signings, $20 photos signed, that she has no ablility to function without the "grifter factor." She is clearly shameless, but is using the same formula to try and guilt her fans to sign on for the cruise, when many of them have clearly said they can not afford it. She barely has a work history, TLC totally ruined her by paying for trips, purchasing endless items Kate "needed," and paying her a huge salary and for everything and beyond (nannies and bodyguard). This woman clearly has no idea of how a "normal" person functions in society, and since her show has been cancelled, still expects others to cater to her needs. TLC created a monster using a narcissist as their subject, and it clearly shows. This "woman" clearly never learned how to function on her own, letalone as a mother of 8.
Layla, your posts are always well thought out and well written, and I enjoy reading them. There is no shame in a typo - English major or not. (I know you were kidding, but I just wanted to let you know your posts are appreciated.) Have a great day.
e is clearly shameless, but is using the same formula to try and guilt her fans to sign on for the cruise, when many of them have clearly said they can not afford it.
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And, even when some tell them no or it doesn't look that probable, she can't accept no for an answer. She starts with the "plllease, plllease" begging. It's rude and unattractive. If someone tells you no I can't afford something, you respond oh that's too bad I'm going to miss you maybe next time. The end of it, move on.
49- Layla- Great Post! Missed it while I was posting. The alleged Haters, "for the most part," are more concerned about the kids and Kate's lack of mothering since day one. She used everyone to try to make herself a "star," forgetting about her kids along the way. And not much has changed. It may have become even worse, with the cancellation of the show, if possible. With a narcissist, it all becomes about them. The kids almost seem to be an after thought, in her pursuit of fame, and that is what bothers us most. Next are the fans who is she is now trying to fleece in order to earn money off the cruise.
I think the thing I hate most about Kate is that everything she does is for HER, never the kids, and certainly not the fans.
But then I am the one who thinks the kids are much more savvy than given credit for on the show. I think they learned early on how to make good TV, but their competitive mom got in the way and messed it all up, by insisting the show become about her.
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This I agree with. I think some of those kids played TLC and Kate like a fiddle. Especially Mady.
The sad part is some of these moms will be paying the credit cards off for years to come long after the thrill is gone. In this economy, no one knows what the future holds.
Just back to the original topic. She really does look like Mrs. Wiggins. Here's a side-by-side with Kate Gosselin and Mrs. Wiggins. They even sit with their legs in the same position.
There is one comment on the bottom, which pretty much sums up what everyone on this blog thought when reading about this event.
I still believe Kate backed out for reasons other than she thought it was a scam. I think it had everything to do with thinking it would cost her money and that it wasn't the type of crowd she would want to rub elbows with.
They say in the article they are planning another Gala to be held in the next three months. LOL
To Done & Done: this equaling out of the twins & tups, is not a real thing. In a childs mind, the tups are still treated special and the twins are not. They did start showing K8 on thusday on Discovery, I was watching something else when it came on. before I could change channel, It was the tups b-day in florida, and happen to catch one of the twins, going off on why the tups get special treatment and another party. Taking the twins on the cruise(if it happens), will only cause more jealousy among the 8. Kate has never taught the kids that, for example: this is the twins b-birthday only, you tups do not get a present or special treatment. Same goes for the tups, all 8 of you get 2 b-days and that is it. One from me and one from your dad. But not Kate, 3 b-days for the tups. One from mom w/twins, one from dad w/twins and one w/school mates & twins. Yes it does sound like the twins are getting 3 b-days plus their own b-days, which totals 6 b-days, celebrated. These children don't know when their b-day is and when the tups b-day is(perhaps Jon makes that difference happen, cause Kate does not, she lumps all 8 together). Children always are comparing things, parents love etc. When TLC was in the pic, it was mostly about the tups, cause twins are more common. Take notice on every year it was the tups birthday bash, the twins, a little party, if they even showed it. You don't think, those twins got jealous, they did and probably still do. And this is all Kate doing.
Totally OT, but when I saw this I knew that you would all enjoy it. Sorry that I don't know how to make it clickable but maybe someone can do it for me.
Yes, she definitely didn't go because it would have cost her cash. She's not interested unless she's the one grifting, not the other way around with giving to another grifter, lol. Which I am fully convinced was the intent of this event.
That's why she had that tweet about sending the info about the nearby 5K to her "manager". Unless she's getting something out of it (including publicity), she's not interested.
Wouldn't a few 5k's be great training for her next big marathon? Seems to me it's a training exercise and as an added bonus, charitable. Most running programs have 5k's and 10k's built in. Not really for the distance but just for the race feel--to practice run in huge crowds, the noise and stress and anticipation of it and working through that.
Forget the charity, she can't even seem to see that practicing a real race is great training for the next marathon. She could still make it all about her and her training. She hears charity, I might have to GIVE something instead of take, and runs away. Can't see past the end of her nose.
"I guess I see things differently, but I don't think M/J is crazy at all. I think she is very crafty and is beating KT at her own game."
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Interesting concept, although I do think that she's crazy. If her plan is to get Kate's attention, then yes, she is beating Kate at her own game, but the bottom line is that with all of her insane tweets and antics, the end result will be that if she does go on the cruise, Kate most certainly will avoid her and will not interact with her at all...because Kate KNOWS that she is nuts.
Great point that most runners/marathoners run local races for the practice/experience, WITHOUT GETTING PAID. But in Kate's warped narcisstic mind- it is not worth doing unless she gets paid. She really is a twisted person, who gives nothing back to anyone.
anger issues kate 62 -- I completely agree with you. The twins have been told and shown in every way possible since they were 3 1/2 that they are yesterday's news and that they take a back seat to the 6. In addition, Kate fosters favoritism and jealousy among the kids, by insisting on birth order always, by emphasizing that Cara is the "oldest" despite knowing that it upsets Mady when she does this, by blatantly favoring the girls over the boys. She's deliberately fostering sibling rivalry and setting these kids up for competition among themselves. In a way this may be smart on Kate's part. If she creates enough division among the kids, they won't all band together against her when they get older.
zzzzzzzzz @msgoody2shoes21 @kateplusmy8 Kate's kids are on a bus or at school 13 hrs a day. Awake at home 4 hrs a day.Kate has 28hrs a week with kids
Since when? Thirteen hours? To some kids, it may SEEM, that long! However, if the kids leave at 7 a.m. and get home at 4 p.m., how is that thirteen hours?
I can answer some of the running questions. Yes, local 5k and 10k races are an important part of training for a marathon. It's not about the distance, it's about getting the feel of a race. You have to learn to deal with the crowds of other racers and pace yourself when you want to just take off at the beginning. I don't understand her running and have called her on some of her inconsistencies before on this blog. The main one is her times. She claimed at one point to run an 8-something minute mile. We've seen video of her running. That's ridiculous and her RnR Vegas time backs me up. Anyway, I won't get into all of that again. I just don't get why she has to make stuff up. She is always proven to be a liar and it makes her look so much worse than if she'd just admit she's a newbie at something or struggles like everyone else.
Nobody Likes a Narcissist (NLAN) said... 28 Damn, I'm wondering if I missed anything but I refuse to break my personal rule of automatically scrolling past any post that is made by any "Anonymous". ********** Do you scroll past all "Anonymous", or just ones without names attached? We have one computer that I can't post from unless I post under "Anonymous", but I always put my name at the end of the post. I know there are others here who do that, too, so they may have a similar problem. I have no problem posting under my actual name on the rest of our computers.
That said, there are some pretty insulting things that people post under "Anonymous", usually Sheeple who are bored and craving drama. They are looking for a drama/attention fix, so ignoring them is a great game plan.
61- I think she used "spending time with the kids this weekend," as a reason/excuse to back out of the Bermuda weekend trip, when Jon clearly has them this week-end.
She is simply not that original when she is not getting paid, as all can see. She is not with the kids Sat/Sunday. Although I think she made it clear on Twitter that she would be spending time with the kids this week-end. Way to use your kids Kate, like they ever stopped you from going to something you wanted to go to.
The sheeple last night was pretty rabid. Swooping in and throwing DL under the bus, then boohooing about censorship and claiming I endorsed racism. Quite a psychotic display.
They really are deranged. This particular one likes to show up around 11pm PST at night. Wonder if it's Sharla again. Thought I blocked her.
ALice Travel has a cruise with Paula Deen up, and it actually looks pretty appealing. The whole Deenfamily is going and participating, which means people will have one-on-one time with several of them. There are about twice as many activities included. Onboard Deen Family Olympics? Who wouldn't rather do that than yet another (yawn) Q&A with Kate? The route is Eastern Carbbean (much better than Kate's route), and the prices start at $1578. And the Sheeple don't think they're being ripped off? Just shows how greedy Kate is.
Kate just retweeted that one of her sheeple is going on the cruise. WHY does she always retweet things that praise HER? She's a head scratcher, for sure.
Just going to respond to a couple of posters' questions.
1. If she trains with Rod Dixon (assuming he does this), she can do it over the internet. He will send her her schedule and she'll report her results as she does it. She doesn't have to go to LA to train. I had a running trainer at one point, and that's how we did it. It's cheaper too. :)
2. Anyone who owns horses and lets kids with no riding experience ride their horses better have their attorney on retainer.
My mental image of Milo is that she feels miserable, spends most of her time in bed or in a chair, is bored out of her mind, and has turned to Twitter as her counselor and playmate. She tweets just for something to do, and wants tweets returned so she will have something to read, something to reply to so her day will go faster. It doesn't have to be of substance, it just has to be something that makes her know there is someone out there beyond her 4 walls. She may GO nuts if she didn't have something to occupy her mind.
Some people play solitaire. Some read books. Some watch TV. Some play video games. Some write in journals. Some chat on the phone. Milo may tweet. Whatever passes the time and lets her know somebody knows she's there.
And the more she tweets with particular people, the bolder she becomes in what she will talk about. By now, she has probably shared shoe sizes and most embarrassing moments with Kate and other KateFans.
I agree about the training online and I hope she does it. I have a running coach in my area but most of my "training" comes in email form. She sends me my weekly schedule with very detailed paces and expectations. I report every detail about the runs and anything else that pertains to it-such as nutrition and health matters. An online coach can be a valuable tool and I hope she takes that opportunity to learn from someone who knows what they're doing.
"Celebrity chef Paula Deen has been made famous for her comfort food-style recipes full of fried fare, butter and fat, but the health effects of her cooking may have caught up with her. According to Us Weekly, the 64-year-old Deen is planning to confirm rumors that she has been diagnosed with type two diabetes during a “Today Show” interview with Al Roker next Tuesday."
Critics on television last night had some rather nasty things to say about her and what this will do to her "empire" if this is true.
I don't think anyone who watches thinks it's really advisable to eat that way ALL the time. I think you can eat that way on special occasions in moderation and still be quite healthy.
I've wondered about that snooty Barefoot Contessa as well. She is very overweight and cooks lots of sweets.
I think some of these women think that you're not really a credible female chef if you're not a little chubby. Sad.
Paula Deen might go the way of the Galloping Gourmet, Graham Kerr. He was a chef who luxuriated in full-fat, flavorful meals. Then coronary heart disease got him. He switched up his menus to be healthy, low fat and just kept cooking. I don't keep up with him, so I don't know what he's doing now.
It looks like CJWhodunit is going on the cruise with Kate. Yee Haw.
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Too funny! You know, if this cruise wasn't happening in the dead of summer in hurricane season, I might consider going just to watch all of this drama unfold, especially now that CJ is going and if Milo decides to go. Good entertainment!
When I was in Pulmonary Rehabilitation I would put the TV in front of my treadmill on The Food Network. At noon, Paula Deen came on. At noon, one of the other patients came. She would climb on the treadmill, look at the TV and turn to me. "How many sticks of butter did she start with on this recipe?" was the first thing out of her mouth every single time. We would then count out the amount of other things like oil, mayonnaise, cheese, etc. that got added as Paula cooked.
No taker here admin. I feel just a little bit dumber every time I read something those sheeple write. I can't even begin to imagine how mind-numbing they are in person.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 93 It would be nice to have a blogger on board blogging about these events. Hilarity ensues, surely.
It sure as heck won't be me though. Anyone?
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Admin, once the cruise is over, there may be any number of angry and frustrated cruisemates who would be more than happy to write a summary of the trip here or anywhere. We may get more info than we even care to read. There is no greater wrath than a Sheeple ignored, right? Just be patient. I think we'll get the scoop.
Paula Deen will surely have to rebrand herself. It may be a great boost to her career. I think her cooking is over the top-- I generally do not make any of her food, but a love watching her. And that house! Her son Bobby is coming out with a new show that focuses on healthier cooking and eating. Coinkydink?
A Paula Deen comment -- I participated in a sponsored event with Michael (husband) and Paula. It was through Harrah's. He had been ill and she was at the beginning stages of catching his cold. They both apologized to those of us in attendance. I guess they thought they weren't as engaging, however, we would not have known. They were warm, funny, attentive and delightful. Anyone going on a cruise with that family will most likely have a wonderful time. PS: Paula is a raunchy broad....I didn't know that till I met her and heard her talk!
NLAN said (#18) It's downright creepy for some guy to talk about her kids and how he loves them and misses them on TV, while also tweeting Khate that she's hot, and fantasizing about her "yummy creamie thong" (again, eww)
Where is Kate's super special security team? Sad that it is her critics that bother to take the time to protect her safety--not her paid employees and uber-fans. This guy is really a creep and is clearly trolling for someone to respond to him. Obviously, his "creamy thong" comment isn't enough to get him blocked-- in fact, he scored a rare response and a big ol' Thank You from Kate.
If no one is even monitoring the twitter page for stalkers, exactly who is it that will be watching out for her and her family's safety on the big party boat? Well, I guess his money is as good as anyone's!
CJwhodunit is one of the nastiest sheeple in Sheepleland. Watch for a complete image rehab to ensue on her part. She says both her and her "tweenie" will be doing the Kate program. So that means there's now 5 paying for Kate. And another one has just chimed in as "almost" sure. Maybe she'll make the minimum number after all.
I'm sure we'll see reports or tweets about Kate aboard ship. Will she hide in a closet like she did at the book signing? I'm not surprised that she's goading people into this cruise. That's a hell of a lot of money for most mediocre people and for some, it's really going to hurt and they will be paying it off for years to come. Sometimes, the better part of valor is to protect people from themselves and if Kate had a moral compass, she'd be doing just that instead of saying "do it!!" Hey Kate, put your kids in gymnastics!! DO IT!!!! Pay for a beach house on your own dime!! DO IT!!
This reminds me of when the Osbourne's had their show and Ozzie and Sharon basically auctioned off a day for a fan to come into their home (creepy) and meet them. So of course, some lemming went into deep hock in order to make it happen. Sharon felt kind of bad, but didn't put a stop to it. Alas, fodder for reality tv.
To be a fly on that cruse ship wall LOL. If she makes her minimum with the sheep that have been posting, then she is bringing a group of crazy ass disturbed people aboard. I am already sorry for the other paying guests. And they will see so, so little of K8 it's not even funny. Bon voyage fools.
Why does she need a trainer? She already skipped through one marathon without breaking a sweat, with no formal training, right down to the lipstick before crossing the finish line into the "arms of R. Dixon." Seems like if you've done it once you could do it 10 times over without any problem.
And what is up with that kindergarten teacher, dying for a tweet from KT, that's just disgusting. Why would that mean so much to anybody, it's just empty words on a page with lots of exclamation points.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 93 It would be nice to have a blogger on board blogging about these events. Hilarity ensues, surely.
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I'd go, admin, I honestly would, but in hurricane season? Nope, not after this latest cruise ship tragedy. If this were being held in the late fall or spring, I'd hop right on it. I'd enjoy being an online reporter of the plight of the sheeple!
Winsomeone said... 47 TLC may have detached from Kate, but they are the ones who created her, and in a way, will always be a bit accountable for her actions. ==== I agree and more specifically I think Eileen O'Neill aka Dr. Frankenstein should have her feet held closer to the fire.
Asked to respond to criticism that TLC's Toddlers & Tiaras is a voyeuristic train wreck, O'Neill jokes: "No one's ever said that to me." And she defends the series as an unvarnished look at a $5 billion industry, insisting that the network is very cautious about how it portrays the children. "I appreciate the question because it's something we certainly wrestle with. We're not going to shy away from reality, but at the same time we're respectful of the fact that these kids have to go to school the next day," she says. "A lot of us are parents, which helps us decide how far a storyline can go."
BS. She's been more than willing to go the distance to exploit families and especially children for the $$ factor. But I'll bet the farm we'll never see HER kid on a reality show.
My husband and I try to eat healthy, so Paula Deen's recipes are somewhat off limits. Her buffets and restaurants are delicious places to eat for a treat! We did, however, get hooked on her coffee brand. I have to order from the internet unless I am near one of her "stores" in a Harrah's casino. I recommend Savannah Seduction as the BEST coffee we have ever poured into a steamy mug.
Paula Deen was the Rose Bowl Parade grand marshal last year. She went over the top beyond with it and interacting with everyone. She was hardly just a face in the car waving.
BS they care about the kids in school the next day. Like hell they do Proof exactly why adults who are raking in the money, cannot, under any circumstances, be trusted to make decisions in a child's best interest on set. Dance Moms is a huge concern for me now and on my radar, though that's a Lifetime show.
TLC, please, for the love of God, get an independent, independently licensed, set teacher on set who has been tested and certified in child labor laws and protection of children on set. EVEN if no laws are being broken, a set teacher has the power to stop production if things are unsafe for the child.
I think Paula Deen and her very authentic southern charm are very endearing. I even use a couple of her recipes once in a while. I wonder if she shamelessly plugged her own cruise. She probably didn't have to!
OMG, Kate's super-saving tips for dogs makes my head explode. I wonder if her parents bitched and moaned about how much it cost to raise her. Who the F%^& spends so much energy talking about the cost of feeding an animal? Why does she always get consumed with it? ONE boy needs glasses and she's pissy about it. Let me tell you-- something so basic should be a given. It's food. It's essential. It should bring you joy to feed your dog and watch him love his meals. I know I do. I have 3 dogs, , you bitch. They get served high quality food, along with my cooking (a bit too much, bad on me!). And guess what? If it's raining out, they get wet. It's what towels are made for. I also find it rich that she's talking about being frugal with dogs, meanwhile, she buys Shoka a ball throwing machine, goes to PetCo/Pet Smart and throws a ton of crap into her cart willy nilly, not ONCE looking at price tags and says the dog gets groomed twice a month. Wow. Oh, that and she wants you to buy a $2000 week with her on a boat. (I'm telling you, living with her as a mother must be so damn confusing. I love you! You cost me money! l love you! You make my life harder!)
"Right up until Stevie came to your room and demanded "In your Neighborhood's" laptop. LOL! :)"
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If he came to my room and demanded my laptop, I'd put him in the bathroom and make him listen to the violent flushing of the toilet all night. You've never heard a toilet flush until you heard one on a cruise ship. In fact, my kids would count down before the flush - 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, Aim and Fire!
Handwritten notes would always be an option, to be transcribed later...!!!
Regarding Cruise: Having been an impulsive young adult, and having raised 3 children that are now 27-30 years old, I have to say that some lessons have to be learned the hard way. When one of my kids made a financial mistake, I talked to them about the lessons learned--I always called these mistakes "tuition". The experience of being taken advantage of at an early age, taught them that the only one looking out for them was themselves. As a parent, it was my hope that hard lessons learned would prevent them from making a later, bigger mistake--ala Bernie Madoff, overpriced cruises, etc.
Fortunately, when I was a young adult, I didn't have access to credit cards, the way my kids do-- the banking industry has been targeting them for years. My kids are constantly getting pre-approved offers for credit cards. One of my son's friends was able to qualify for the purchase of a brand new car, with huge monthly payments, on a minimum wage salary. Since he 'knew' that he was a safe driver, he didn't take out collision insurance. I am sure that you all can guess how that ended! I can only imagine the kind of trouble I could have gotten myself into if I could have, on an impulse, followed my favorite bands around the world.
The Kate cruise will be a particularly bitter lesson because not only will the sheeple be out the money, possible saddled with debt and unable to afford other things --like college tuition -- they will have been betrayed by a role model and 'friend'. Just like Bernie Madoff's victims.
Oh--and by the way, I still have $100.00 for anyone that admin sanctions to go as an undercover agent of this blog!
So I just took a look at her pet tips blog on CC (only because I am a dog person and am the go-to person for all my friends when it comes to dog stuff), and she reveals nothing of interest. In fact, she mostly discredits what has been said here...like how Shoka is brought in even when the teensiest drops of rain fall...whatever.
In fact, she claims that Shoka, whom they got in 2008, is her TWO year old GSD...guess that must be Kate-math because in REAL math the dog would be 4, no?
It's very simple. If it's going to bother you every day how much dog food costs, and GOOD food and not the crap that's just rice is not the cheapest stuff around, then don't get a dog. Just don't get a dog. Spare the dog lovers the agony of watching someone who clearly doesn't even like dogs much less love them, own a dog. I saw a coupon for my dog's food once in two years, and I was looking diligently even on their web site. Oh well, that's part of having a dog.
The vast majority of the "coupons" require you to spend a minimum of 50 to 60 bucks and beyond to save a measly five bucks.
Here's a money saving tip for Kate-- Stop buying lavish cars! Every. Single. Thing.... that Jon did and got harangued for, Kate has done and is still doing. Sports car? Check. Paid appearances in Vegas? Check. NYC night club drunken adventure? Check. Ridiculous clothes? Check. I could go on and on and on.
I love Innova which for years you could only find in specialty dogs shops. We'd have to go out of our way to get it. Now FINALLY Petsmart and Petco have gotten on board with feeding dogs good stuff and you can easily get it on the internet and so on. I knew before getting a dog that was something I was prepared to do. And before then, when I was not in a position to do that, wouldn't you know it, I chose not to have a dog.
I haven't watched Dance Moms yet and I don't think I will based on what I saw on Anderson the other day. Exploiting kids seems to be the status quo of reality shows these days. Paging Paul Pedersen...
AA is really the worst. It's not so much the filming but how that dance teacher treats them and why those kids aren't pulled out of that class so fast (obviously, fame whore mothers).
I saw they were doing a meet and greet autograph session with the dance class featured at the studio. WTF! They are children. They shouldn't be made to sit there for autographs, they should be in school, or sports, or playing with friends. It's one thing for an adult to do a signing but KIDS??? Also that can't be good for a kids' ego, I've heard some of those kids are real divas at like 12 years old. Incredibly concerning that whole thing.
The fact that Kate is encouraging her Tweeties to spend money they not have just so she can make money for herself is another example of her lack of a moral compass. How can any normal person do this to another person. Kate doesn't know these peoples emotional or financial situation. A cruise is a lot of money. Most people save up for years to go on a cruise. By encouraging her fans with DO IT she may be sending them down the road to serious debt. All so Kate can make money.
A speaking of a moral compass, whenever Kate wants attention or is attacked her response is..I'm a mother of 8, I need money to feed my kids. Every time she's called out she always hides behind her kids. And the "attacker" then appears as the bad guy. After all mothers are thought of as nurturers (sp?), protectors of their children. To have a mother hide behind her child(ren) just seems unbelievable. And then here comes Kate. She has turned a mother's role on its end. So much so that in her world children protect the mother.
Coupons and dog food generally do not go together. Not if you're buying high end brands. But, there's good news. Generally you can get on a buying program as I have, and get a free case of food for every 12 you buy. I buy 2 different types of canned and dry food (darn picky Bichon!) and last year, it just so happened that I was up for 2 free cases of canned food. I thought I won the lottery ;-)
If pet owners ever have a month they're really struggling, they can ask their vet if they have any food to spare. I have heard most vets will happily offer a bag of food. When people's animals pass away, they will often bring whatever food they had left to the vet. As long as the animal was free of illness and the food is good, it's perfectly safe to pay it forward. We did this with our cat and the vet donated it on. But I agree, you don't see coupons for high end dog food, like, ever. Purina is in the paper every Sunday and that's about it.
No Moral Compass said... 124 ****** Yes, Kate invokes motherhood like people invoke the holocaust vis a vis Godwin's law. Give her enough time, and she will bring it up. It's inevitable. Motherhood is not an automatic patina of respectability.
I want to know why she takes the dog to the vet and groomer twice a month?
My Newf goes to the groomer every three months and the vet once a year .. unless he gets an ear infection or something. And my dog is considered elderly. No way a young healthy German Shepherd goes to the vet or groomer that often ...
Unless those vet/grooming folks are grifting the grifter :)
I love the coupon that requires you to spend 80 bucks minimum to get the coupon.
My dog is small, they don't even make 80 buck bags of food for him, even Innova.
And if I bought that much dog food, 80 bucks worth, the poor little guy would be swimming in stale dog food for years. He literally picks at half a cup a day.
I get coupons for the litter I use in my hedgehogs litter box. They come in the bag. You have to buy 10 bags and save all of the little coupons in order to get a free bag of litter. It takes about a year for me to get free litter for her. I keep them with the rest of my coupons. I cant find coupons for her food but thats ok. She is a small thing and I only buy food once every few months.
One thing Kate failed to talk about was the fact that you dont save any money buying online unless you get free shipping. Sometimes the item plus shipping costs more then just buying the item at the local store.
One thing Kate failed to talk about was the fact that you dont save any money buying online unless you get free shipping. Sometimes the item plus shipping costs more then just buying the item at the local store. ==== Strange isn't it that the top blogger (or whatever her title is over at Coupon Cabin) fails to mention those important little facts. It just shows how incapable she is of doing any kind of research. I wonder how long until the folks at CC realize she's not an asset.
While reading the tweets from the sheeple wanting to go on this cruise to meet Kate, it made me think of several years ago a group of us middle aged fans got together to go see a group of "has beens" that we had idolized as youngsters. For this, I had to travel cross country to LA. I was so so so excited to meet one band member in particular who was so totally my idol! They knew we were coming, and when we arrived at the small venue where they were performing, we got to meet them.
UGH! I should have kept my fantasy and saved my money! I was so very disillusioned by the man standing before me. He was rude and arrogant and it completely destroyed my fantasy.
Wondering if this is what will happen to Kate's tweeties when they finally get the chance to have special time with her?
Is Kate suggesting buy dog food that's on sale? I can't switch dog food brands...gives both my dogs diarrhea. If you have to switch you're supposed to do it slowly; mix some new in with the old a little at a time. Can't do that if you're buying different food on sale.
anger issues kate 62 -- I completely agree with you. The twins have been told and shown in every way possible since they were 3 1/2 that they are yesterday's news and that they take a back seat to the 6. In addition, Kate fosters favoritism and jealousy among the kids, by insisting on birth order always, by emphasizing that Cara is the "oldest" despite knowing that it upsets Mady when she does this, by blatantly favoring the girls over the boys. She's deliberately fostering sibling rivalry and setting these kids up for competition among themselves. In a way this may be smart on Kate's part. If she creates enough division among the kids, they won't all band together against her when they get older.
I was trying to think back over time and I thought I heard the actual contract between Kate and TLC was suppose to stop at the end of this month. I have always wondered if TLC made some kind of a deal with her when they decided to stop filming.
I always had the feeling that they might have promised to pay for certain things until the actual contract ends such as Steve's salary and pay for the PR firm to help her try to get another job. I don't think they completely cut her off.
That may also explain the real estate change in eliminating the atty's name. Perhaps TLC was helping out in some way with the mortgage which is now ending. It just seems a coincidence that it happened this month.
Might also explain her desperation to get people for this cruise.
UGH! I should have kept my fantasy and saved my money! I was so very disillusioned by the man standing before me. He was rude and arrogant and it completely destroyed my fantasy.
Wondering if this is what will happen to Kate's tweeties when they finally get the chance to have special time with her?
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I don't think it will take long before Kate is snapping her fingers at Steve, snubbing one person to talk to another who is more her style, going off by herself to a corner (or closet), looking bored, tired of smiling....
Hey! Is Jamie going? Now there's an adult who might enjoy the trip! What about Carla?
135: I think mumbear, the Australian fan who met Kate at the zoo, already knows the disillusionment of meeting Kate. But it's kept pretty quiet among the fans. Notice they spend more time defending the concept of Kate than the reality of who she is and what she does.
The stand-out in the pet post, to me, is the fact that she named the dogs, not the kids. When was the last time you got a pet for the family and didn't allow the kids to name it?
Reading Resident, Your story reminds me of the years that I worked for a major airline (yikes, about 18 years ago...I'm getting old!). It was funny to compare the real celebrities with what I considered the "minor league" celebs. I almost always found that the biggest celebs were the nicest, while the minor leagues were so arrogant! One of my favorite memories is the time that some pretty rough-looking characters came to my line to check in. I thought, from the looks of them, that they'd be difficult, but they were so polite and courteous. "Yes, ma'am", "No, ma'am", "Thank you very much". Then when they left for the gate, I turned around and the ticketing agent next to me was hyperventillating and could hardly speak. Finally he gasped out, "Green Day! That was Green Day!". I, of course, was clueless, but now when I hear their music, I still think of those nice young men with the crazy hair and ripped-up black clothes who went through my line and were just so nice and polite. Their mothers should be proud.
The stand-out in the pet post, to me, is the fact that she named the dogs, not the kids. When was the last time you got a pet for the family and didn't allow the kids to name it? ____________ I remember that during an episode. The kids were so disappointed they couldn't name the dogs. Kate made some face and said something about not wanting a dog named "fluffy" or something like that.
Hey! Is Jamie going? Now there's an adult who might enjoy the trip! What about Carla? ******** Jamie's been MIA since the RV debacle. I have a hard time believing that Kate would remain friends with Jamie after the comments she made. It cheesed me that Jamie would allow her kids to be filmed at all, let alone be filmed getting abused by Kate's kids. How embarassing.
Shoka is "expensive" to feed...are you F------ kidding me! She has MILLIONS. I am POOR, and I feed two dogs, two cats, and two feral cats (and feed them well w/ the best food available) outside twice/day...in fact, a good deal of my weekly food budget goes to feeding my animals. I hate that BITCH.
Layla, I love hearing that about Green Day! Last year, we were blessed to see Billy Joe (lead singer) in American Idiot on Broadway (never saw my husband smile so big in my life) and he came out to sign autographs outside the stage door afterward. Staff of the theater said he did that every night. We sort of watched for a minute and took off. I was at a theater a couple weeks ago, waiting to get in and Hugh Jackman's show is across the street and he comes out before the show to sign autographs too. Maybe the energy pumps him up - you should have heard the squeals! Very gracious way to acknowledge the fans who have paid to be there.
Mim 141 - naming the dogs was addressed in the episode when they picked them out. The kids squeal with delight when Kate says they are going to get pets for Christmas. She rudely shuts down any suggestions for names and announces she has already picked monikers. I think later in the chair interview she explains that she could live with some childish name for the duration of the pet's life. She ridicules the names she thinks the kids might have chosen. I may have lost details -- this is from memory -- but, I clearly remember being appalled with her behavior at the time.
Also, with regard to Kate naming the dogs and not letting the kids do it, wasn't that also when they thanked their parents and she said, "You're not welcome" in that monotone of hers? For all the hoopla she makes about them thanking her and thanking her for keeping them alive, she treated them like crap on that day, and maybe others too. Sad. Sorry, snow day here.
When our bulldog was a puppy the vet told us that if we wanted to shorten his life we should base his diet on whether or not we had a coupon for the food. If we wanted him around and healthy for a long time we'd base his diet on what was best for him. I've never seen coupons for his food.
My sibs and I had no imagination when it came to naming pets. We had a litany of literal names -- Brownie, Lassie, Yellow One, etc. But the winner was Old-Gray-Mother-Cat. Had to say that one fast..like just one word. Our parents may have laughed, but they never took over the task of selecting names for our many pets.
PJ's Mama, I love hearing that he's still a nice guy. Others who were such a joy to deal with were Toni Braxton and her sisters, Doug Williams (NFL), Bryan Adams, all the guys in Bon Jovi, and David Lee Roth. Oh, and the Baldwin brothers, although I have heard that Alec isn't quite so nice on flights now. Who was the biggest pain? That's a toss-up between John Cafferty (and the Beaver Brown Band) and Lex Luger/The Narcissist (WWF Guy). Kate needs to pay attention, because if she acts like a b****, people will remember for decades (or longer) and will share the stories about her behavior long after she has forgotten.
Layla, she's not acting. She IS a B. We have met quite a few celebs because of my husband's work, mostly musicians, and most are pretty nice. He hired The Cult last summer and they were all so nice - except for the young replacement guitarist. I felt like saying, "Dude, you haven't earned the right to be so pissy. Look around, these guys have been at it for decades, you should be on your knees thanking them for having you." He hired Cheap Trick and they were ALL awesome! Presidents of the United States of America - same thing. Met two guys from Heart last year - wonderful guys. Seems rare to have a yucky musician. But think about what reality TV breeds and thrives on: narcissism in people who have no talent and nothing to offer besides their behavior.
GrifterKate said: I think the thing with Kate that boils my blood is that she has been so used to grifting and relying on OTHERS to support her and the tups since Day One (over 7 years)- church, fans, sponsored freebies galore, TLC, book signings, $20 photos signed, that she has no ablility to function without the "grifter factor." &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
You are absolutely right. From the very beginning, TLC made numerous high dollar improvements to the E-Town house. Provided J&K with every kind of service you could imagine (nannies, maids, landscaping, chef service) sent them on once in a lifetime trips, they probably paid for the new kitchen in the Konpound and did pay for the poolside redo and new slide. Those are the things we know about. There are surely many more.
When TLC asked Kate to do a solo show where she's put in uncomfortable situations, her reply should have been "where's the trash truck?" But no. As she has done for years to everyone she comes in contact with, she bit the hand that fed her. Despite how we feel about TLC, they were pretty damn good to her. They could see the writing on the wall and knew that "K+8 going on expensive vacation after expensive vacation" was going to tank. And it did. A show where she did mediocre and dirty jobs would have been a smash, I'm sure of it. She could have struck gold, but her snottyness and arrogance prevented her from getting past the pilot.
And here she is, right back to 2004 where she's again begging for handouts from people who have waaaaay less than she.
They were already in the throes of an impending divorce at that time. She seemed to know the breeder well and Jon not so much. That was the first time I can say I ever saw be as flirty as she can be as she will always be androgenous to me, I don't care how many say she is a hot momma.
I felt then like she was taking 2 because they were a good bloodline and would have been expensive but probably free for her. She must have really been impressed with the real Shoka because I thought it was a dumb name. But then again we let our kids name a pit bull puppy, and we ended up with this big pit bull named you guessed it, Fluffy.
PJ's momma, Maybe they're insecure because they aren't really anything special. My son is in "the business", but in a very minor way because we want to protect his privacy at all costs. He gets to meet lots of people. I have been shocked by how some will act, even in front of a child. Ahem, especially a certain woman interviewer on a hugely successful morning talk show. You know who you are, KLG. But, like the rest of us, they have to get up in the morning and decide whether to be pleasant or b****y on any given day. The difference is, nobody is majorly affected if one of us is feeling a bit grumpy on any given day. For them, they could really crush someone who idolizes them and that disappointment doesn't go away easily. Especially when they don't have repeated exposure to that particular celeb. That first impression lingers. I think many of them have that figured out and they make it a point to be courteous as much as possible, to encourage the fans--the people who ultimately determine whether they'll be successful or not--to like them. Kate seems determined to figuratively give the finger to all but her (very) few supporters. That's why she can't get that talk show she wants so badly. She's destroying her chances to get what she so desperately wants, and yet she just can't seem to help herself. And then she's even more frustrated...it's a vicious circle that she's trapped in.
I always dream about winning a lottery. I would go blog at the cruise for you if I did win in time altho I will probably never win :( If I was rich enough I could always take a decent cruise another time after suffering on hers. I would take the punishment for the rest of us.
Even if she pisses off a fan really bad, especially the twit ones, they are not going to say a word. It is not so much that they don't want to bad mouth Kate as they don't want to admit to us that they were wrong and they don't want to look like the idiots we know they are. If anything it will have to be an unheard of fan who opens up on the internet somewhere and tells all (with pictures and video hopefully).
Layla, you are absolutely right. It IS a choice. And first impressions DO linger, especially if that's their only exposure. That's why Kate's personality will ultimately be her downfall. She allowed that 'first impression' to be broadcast far and wide with no repercussions until she got cancelled. There's no going back now. If there was, she'd be trying to get her name/face out there with reputable charities (and not just keeping her half-naked Red Cross front and center on her blog). If she was a nice person, opportunities would be coming to her. But they're just not.
Granted, all the people we've met have had their glory days and are now just enjoying the residuals of their early success, but they do seem to appreciate it. Our friend is a music promoter (another reason we get to meet folks) - he can tell some funny stories but most people who have been in the business a long time are just genuinely nice to work with, according to him. Which is why, decades later, they are still booking gigs. Kate will not be able to say that, ever.
She created the vicious circle you described, quite accurately too, and she will have to live inside of it. Now you have me so curious about KLG, LOL! I cannot figure out who that is. Oh well!
wayward said... Despite how we feel about TLC, they were pretty damn good to her. They could see the writing on the wall and knew that "K+8 going on expensive vacation after expensive vacation" was going to tank. And it did. ******** The funny thing is, I saw on one fan site that the Sheeple think Kate is being very choosy about doing another show, and they think that "after what TLC did to her", she must have a long list of conditions that have to be met before she'll agree to another show. Oh, silly, silly Sheeple. She'll jump on anything--ANYTHING--to get herself back on TV. I think she became so difficult that TLC gave up on her in complete frustration. There were those episodes where they showed just how impossible she was to deal with (Alaska and the RV Episodes). C'mon, we could see from the very beginning that she was majorly p***ed about having to take an RV trip. She was, I'm sure, thinking that TLC should be renting them a $10,000 a beach house, not stuffing them in RVs to drive across the country. That was, obviously, just sooo beneath her. I laughed out loud at her huffing and puffing and making such a big deal out of putting the bags in the cargo area of the RV, then pretending she (boo-hoo) hurt her finger. And then she turned to the camera crew and told them that they need to quit acting like they're filming a TV show and get some work done here. (????!!!!) My jaw just dropped. They are a camera crew, and they WERE filming a TV show, but she just saw them as more people who should be waiting on her. That moment, more than any other I can think of, showed the world just who the real Kate was. Even people who are around to do their job are just there to be her servants, in her mind. And then when the kids were talking about having servants--well, we know where THAT came from, don't we? What's going to happen when she runs out of money for servants to take care of the house for her? Is SHE going to lower herself to cleaning it? There are--what--six bathrooms in the house? That's a lot of toilets to scrub. And speaking as a mother with several sons, boys don't always have the best aim, so it's not the most pleasant job. I picture her curled in the fetal posotion on the bathroom floor, crying and wondering what happened to her life.
Okay, I will admit that someone pulled a fast one on Kathie Lee that day. She was given some information that was going to be presented in a "contest" format, and the person asking the questions switched the cards before starting, and that threw her off. I didn't realize what happened myself until after watching it a couple times (they sent a link of the segment to us after the show) and seeing what he did. But, that made it a fair contest (which she lost). She was NOT happy. We had to hide in the green room until she was gone.
Really? Wowee! For all the endless babble about her own kids back in the day, that sure is surprising. She was in Seattle during the run of her show and our hairstylist was her stylist while here and he LOVED her! I mean, he went on and on and on......
This is off topic, but I sent this to my friend who is struggling. Nothing has ever touched my heart the way this woman sings this beautiful song. If the entire thing didn't make me weep, 4:40 and on would. Not her humility at the end. A beautiful, beautiful moment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NpxTWbovE
Why does Kate tweet nothing all day long when she's alone and when she's with the kids, she's tweeting from the car, from the dinner table, from the homework duty, etc? What a weird 'mother.'
Possible Truth Alert!! Khate said the dog was 2 years old, not 4, because that is probably how old the replacement dog is. Or it's how long it's been since Shoka 2 came to the Konpound. ---------- Admin said...This I agree with. I think some of those kids played TLC and Kate like a fiddle. Especially Mady. ----- How so?
PJ's momma, That clip was beautiful. I had never heard k.d. Lang sing, and it was a real treat. I got all choked up. But, then, I do that a lot. I still cry whe I watch Susan Boyle audition for Britain's Got Talent. Now, Susan is a good example of how to be enormously talented and famous and still be humble and human at the same time. Someone posted on here awhile back that Susan still lived on her old house, and when asked why she didn't buy a castle, she said it would be drafty. I just wanna hug her!
Layla, I watch it all the time. What she does at the end is very Buddhist and Thai, the low, extended bow with hands pressed together. kd Lang is a gay woman, Buddhist, and here she is singing a song written by a man born into a devout Jewish family which includes Old Testament accounts about David's adulterous ways. It doesn't get any more full circle and beautiful than that. You've never heard her at all? Constant Craving, even? She's amazing, you should check out more on youtube.
Reading Resident said... 135 While reading the tweets from the sheeple wanting to go on this cruise to meet Kate, it made me think of several years ago a group of us middle aged fans got together to go see a group of "has beens" that we had idolized as youngsters. For this, I had to travel cross country to LA. I was so so so excited to meet one band member in particular who was so totally my idol! They knew we were coming, and when we arrived at the small venue where they were performing, we got to meet them.
UGH! I should have kept my fantasy and saved my money! I was so very disillusioned by the man standing before me. He was rude and arrogant and it completely destroyed my fantasy.
Wondering if this is what will happen to Kate's tweeties when they finally get the chance to have special time with her?
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A similiar situation happened to me. Except my trip was to see a famous band from a few decades ago, at a small venue. The trip was expensive- and very spur of the moment. In retrospect, a rather silly decision.
I discovered that the subject of my adoration was secretly a fall down alcoholic who needed a "babysitter" to make sure he got to the gigs on time, and semi-coherent. Sadly, due to his various addictions, and bad life choices, he lost it all- fame & fortune, GONE. He was in dire straits, unlike Katie Irene. At the end of the evening, he propositioned all of us married ladies separately.
Reality kicked in full blast.
He was still an amazing guitar player- just very human. Not at all that demigod that I unfairly made him out to be in my little old head.
Big let down.
Expensive trip.
Never again.
As for the sheeple that plan to go on Katie Irene's fleecing cruise, all I will say is that reality will kick them in the butt.
I'm going to be right here, drinking my ice tea & watching (reading) that fiasco unfold.
Reminds me of a song by the Korgis, "Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime".
Thank you for yet another rendition of Halleluja. Wrenching song...goes straight to your soul. My favorite version is Jeff Buckley. His raspy voice adds an extra dimension.
Dmasy, I have to choke back a sob around 4:40 when I watch her version. It's almost like an animal wailing! I'll have to check out Jeff Buckley too. Thanks for the suggestion!
Hi All, seems like not too much has changed since I last checked in, its been a while...I did read the Shoka article about saving money... head shake...nothing has changed....
In first paragraph she says...My 2 year old dog we got just over 3 years ago...
The dogs were named before we saw them, but then goes on to say how they got their names, and they are both names with special meaning to kate...so, which is it Kate??
And then the last which really irates me, which I why I need to take space form this twit....LIKE MY KIDS, Shoka is expensive to feed"..
Kate keep up the great job of shattering your kids confidence...
I discovered that the subject of my adoration was secretly a fall down alcoholic who needed a "babysitter" to make sure he got to the gigs on time, and semi-coherent. Sadly, due to his various addictions, and bad life choices, he lost it all- fame & fortune, GONE. He was in dire straits, unlike Katie Irene. At the end of the evening, he propositioned all of us married ladies separately.
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Pink Straight Jacket: I believe this happens far more than folks would like to admit...you put these people on a pedestal when in reality they are nothing more than mere humans. Better to admire from afar than have your bubble burst. Doubt that any of the cruiser fans would ever admit their disappointment though.
PJ's momma, I don't think so, but maybe I've heard her and didn't know who it was. She has a beautiful voice, though, I'm going to have to check out more of her songs. That deep bow at the end was so touching, such a beautiful way to cap off her performance. After reading all the stories of people meeting their long-ago idols, I'd be afraid to go see mine! Back in the 80s, I was a total Duran Duran girl. John Taylor was my dream guy. I've seen recent pics, though, and he hasn't aged very gracefully. I've heard that he's not the nicest guy, either. Oh, well, I guess maybe we aren't supposed to see them at their worst. Ruins the fantasy. I'll just look up old videos on YouTube and remember him as he was.
Pink Straight Jacket, unbelievable! I just ordered a two-disc set from Amazon called Recollection, where she remastered some old songs, including a few of her own.
This duet with the late, great Roy Orbison is wonderful too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-EiKPrAOHA&feature=related
Sorry to have turned this into a kd Lang thread briefly, but it is nice to celebrate someone with immense talent who is so gracious too.
KD is not so liked around Saskatchewan. She was raised on a cattle farm and in a cattle community and then renounced beef. Not very thankful, that one.
I just had lunch with Oprah yesterday. She was lovely as always.
PJ Momma...thank you. If you do look for Jeff Buckley on YouTube make sure you hear the song from the album. (I believe JB committed suicide long before there was a YouTube.) It is the "deeper" version. West Wing was my favorite, sit still and watch TV show. In one of the later seasons during a scene where a semi-regular is shot and killed Hallelujah was the background with no other dialogue. I just had to hear the entire song and learn more about it. I am never surprised how powerful of an effect it has on others.
Thank you for your link. I believe that the singers who embrace this song fill the lyrics with their own pain and disappointment. Then we listeners can weep with understanding.
So, what's the latest on the "who's going on the cruise" list? So far, as far as I can tell, there are 5 "definites": 1. Nickie Chapman 2. Gypsi 3. Matt Mull 4. CJwhodunnit (and family?) 5. Peggy Scott Then under "maybe", there's milo and her hubby, and under the "may not even exist" list is Minny. (I'm still scratching my head over that one). Maybe a small group is the best thing for this cruise. Just enough people to get Kate a free trip, but a small enough group that she can spend on-on-one time with them all. Sure, she won't make loads of money like she's hoping to do, but maybe this way they won't all be disappointed by the lack of time spent with her. Or they could end up disappointed that they do have to spend time with her. Can't wait to see how this all shakes out.
Friends of mine are close friends with Cheap Trick. They said the same thing, they are awesome guys. When that stage collapsed at their show everyone's hearts were in their throats over here.
I am not surprised that many musicians in REAL bands, as in not the Britney's, are down to earth.
Think about it, almost all bands have talent, almost all of them had to scrape themselves up to the top from the garage. Almost all of them have to write their own music, play their own instruments, and come up with their own material. People who are shallow and untalented are not likely to be able to stick with that lifestyle until they hit it big.
Bands are unlike celebrity, where sometimes you just fall into it because you have a pretty face, or you know someone, or you do something outlandish, or have a reality show randomly thrown at you because you had eight kids.
Rubyred said... 183 In first paragraph she says...My 2 year old dog we got just over 3 years ago... ******* ?????Her dog is TWO years old...and she got him just over THREE years ago????? How did she manage to "get" him before he even existed?
My dog wears a sweater when it's cold and doesn't wear anything when it's not. I find Kate's advice not to be dog outfits because it's a waste of money pretty ignorant. Not everyone who buys a sweater for their dog is doing it because they look cute and goofy in little outfits. Some dogs NEED a sweater to keep warm in the colder months. They will shiver and be uncomfortable if you don't. The real frail dogs like teacup chihuahuas and terriers can easily succumb to overexposure.
Of course it's not necessary to buy an entire wardrobe, but one or two sweaters are something you need to invest in if you have a dog like that. Okay, he DOES look adorable in his sweater, but that's not the reason I bought it.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 189 ***** I'm in agreeance! My smallest dog wears sweaters in winter and all 3 of my dogs have sweaters/shirts that they don right after getting their flea and tick medicine applied. They all look adorable, but the little guy does have many more clothing choices. You should see him in his pajamas.
No, she isn't suggesting buy whatever dog food is on sale, thank goodness. She actually says it could make them sick. I assume the intern at CC added that disclaimer in.
She does however claim she gets coupons for his food. If that's true, he's eating crap food. High quality foods RARELY give out coupons.
Maybe a small group is the best thing for this cruise. Just enough people to get Kate a free trip, but a small enough group that she can spend on-on-one time with them all.
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But can you imagine how embarrassing this would be for her to have only a dozen or so fans show up? How could she live that down? In that case, I'd cancel rather than to have egg (or sheeple poop) all over my face.
Aw Tucker. When I put my dog's sweater on in the morning on cooler days, he sits there and lifts up his little paws and puts them in the sleeves like a little kid. It's adorable.
He seems happiest when he's in a nice cozy sweater cuddled UNDER a blanket between us. These guys love to be toasty warm.
I'm not sure why people are upset that someone makes the lifestyle choice not to eat beef and feels they are obligated not to do that just because they grew up in cattle country. There are good reasons not to eat beef, for health reasons and questionable cattle raising/slaughtering practices.
My ancestors for generations were dairy farmers and I grew up surrounded by dairy farms, but I'm not offended if someone decides not to eat/drink dairy for whatever their reasons are.
Rubyred said... 183 In first paragraph she says...My 2 year old dog we got just over 3 years ago... ******* ?????Her dog is TWO years old...and she got him just over THREE years ago????? How did she manage to "get" him before he even existed? January 16, 2012 4:40 PM
he’s our two year old German Shepherd. We got him and his sister, Nala, in December of 2008
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Hahaha. Reminds me of when my narcissist said you made 12 dollars selling lemonade so you each get four dollars. Except, there were four kids. Good thing the nanny distributed the proceeds.
I'm with whoever said it first. Shoka didn't really "live" until Jon was out of the picture and he was just with Kate.
I should clarify: Kate did not say my 2 year old dog I got 3 years ago. I did paraphrase, but she said our 2 year old dog we got in December 2008 when they were 8 weeks old.... btw..you shouldn't take puppies from their momma's before 16 weeks, and,
its Alberta's Ranching Industry , and KD Lang's home province, that disowned her after her " Meat Stinks" campaign...not Saskatchewan.
Kate's a real winner.. I am hoping the kids hit their teens and ask to live with dad...or to go there every weekend..
Well, first off, you're not famous, Admin. Secondly, KD did commercial ads to renounce beef. Had she just made her choice quietly, I'm sure her community would not have felt as betrayed. KD asked people to NOT purchase beef at the height of her fame.
It's not about ME being famous, it's about someone in your community being famous and speaking out about an industry in your community. I'm guessing growing up around the cattle industry gave her a unique perspective on it. She probably thought that gave her credibility to renounce beef.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 626 Newer› Newest»Admin, same sister-in-law is just what you describe, you can see her waiting to jump in when you stop talking - but usually she talks about how wonderful she is. Much like Kate. But yes, when presented with the opportunity to either sympathize, or even empathize, Kate chooses to make it about her. It is so weird.
As for Milo, she's off her rocker, obviously. And seeking attention from her precious Kate as she copies her on every tweet to that other person. She cleary VERY lonely. I sort of give her a pass because I hate to see anyone suffer. Kate has not suffered. She's just a pig.
Dallas Lady said... 47
Her latest tweet burns me the HELL UP.
Hey Kate:
Guess what? Vacations DO cost money. I realize your classless grifting orange ass has been sent on vacations with nannies on TLC's dime for years. I realize you now think you can MAKE money going on a vacation by trying to trick your ten poor hapless fans into paying way more than they should for five minutes of your joy-killing presence.
But for everyone else? Vacations COST MONEY. In some cases, a lot of money. Some are worth it, like saving up to see the Coliseum in Rome or stand in a markplazt at Christmas in the snow or seeing the Great Wall of China. Some are NOT worth it, and I'd put your sham cruise squarely in that category.
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Such anger over something so petty. Why are you the arbiter of whether a vacation is "worth it?" I don't happen to be a cruise person, but for those who are into cruises the price may be worth it TO THEM. I'd venture to guess that many things you choose to spend your $ on would hold no interest to me whatsoever. Who cares? You spend your $ how you please and let others do the same.
Dang, I meant to say this before sending. Kate and my sister-in-law continue to do those things because nobody ever calls them on their crap! This one was once telling me that a friend or neighbor died - and her family survived because SHE got together a rotating meal plan for people to take meals to the husband and children. So......these people would have also starved to death if it wasn't for her? Instead of asking her that, I said, "So there's no KFC or grocery deli if you girls hadn't done that?" She was speechless. Literally could not speak, mouth hanging open, unable to say a word. How fun would it be to see someone do that to Kate on one of her stupid interviews? I'd get pay-per-view for that one!
I don't happen to be a cruise person, but for those who are into cruises the price may be worth it TO THEM
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They wouldn't, in their wildest imaginations, take this cruise if it wasn't being hawked by Kate. These sheeple aren't into cruises, either. How many of them do you suppose actually cruised before? The only reason, and I mean ONLY reason that they are going is because they think it's going to be one big pajama party/girl's day and night out with Kate. And for that they are being scammed...big time, especially since an intimate up close and personal relationship with her is not going to happen. They don't know this, and they are spending money that they don't have because they think that this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to be near her. It may not be deception on Kate's part because she's not actually coming out and saying how much time she will spend slumming with them, but they're going to find out. By then, it's going to be too late. Credit cards will be maxed out.
Perfect example of expectations of up close and personal encounters on the cruise:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Do U know how 2play Kate? We can have teams play on cruise! A chance 4U 2challenge him again! He thinks he's invincible! LOL
Layla said ...She will sell her soul to make the tuition payments for them, because she realizes that if she doesn't, then we all will know she's hurting for money. NO WAY her pride is going to let that happen.
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I don't think that's true. She would just blame others and give odd, untrue reasons and sob stories. Then she would pull the kids out so fast it would make their headspin just as hard as they do when Khate steers them by their heads.
I knew a woman like Kate, once. She was divorced and remarried and would travel all over, taking her kids from her second marriage only because she didn't have a babysitter (her parents told her flat out that they would not watch the kids and she wouldn't pay to leave them with a hired sitter) but leaving her kids from her first marriage with their Dad. She went to Australia, Great Britain, France, Canada, in addition to traveling across the US. She had received a large payout of money at one point and used it to finance her "lifestyle". Limos to the airport, only the best restaurants, hotels, etc.
Needless to say, her kids from her first marriage were extremely resentful of their younger half siblings and complained loudly to their Dad that it wasn't fair that Mom took the other kids on the trips with her all the time and not them. She finally caved and took them on a few trips to places she enjoyed going to, but by then she'd spent through most of her money and eventually - you guessed it - lost her lavish lifestyle to bankruptcy.
Meanwhile, the older kids still consider the younger half siblings pests and spoiled. Mind you, these older children were given money, toys, clothes, electronics, etc. from both their maternal grandparents, Dad, and (to be fair) their Mom as well. They never wanted for anything.
What I'd like Kate to bear in mind is that letting the twins do things simply because they're a) older and b) easier to manage (trick or treating, trips alone with Mom, etc.) and c) it's cheaper is going to create resentment and anger in her younger children, if it hasn't already.
"She will sell her soul to make the tuition payments for them, because she realizes that if she doesn't, then we all will know she's hurting for money. NO WAY her pride is going to let that happen."
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She has no pride. Anyone who grifts and begs so much has no pride. I think that she would let everyone know she's hurting for money. Didn't she cry poverty awhile back? She couldn't decide whether to play the role of a single mom in deep financial trouble (everything is so expensive), or to continue to stay relevant as a wealthy celebrity (new cars, trips, her swimming pool, her leather sofa). She was poor one day and wealthy the next.
Would it surprise anyone if she started grifting for school tuition, hoping someone helps her out - you know, education is so important, I'm a single mom, school is so expensive, etc. etc., and magically, the sheeple will take up a collection for tuition money.
Perfect example of expectations of up close and personal encounters on the cruise:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Do U know how 2play Kate? We can have teams play on cruise! A chance 4U 2challenge him again! He thinks he's invincible! LOL
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That does sound like a high expectation. I am sure some of her most prominent fans will expect to be invited to Kate's cabin for 10 p.m. wine and sushi. Some of the second class-ers are probably hoping for movie, popcorn and SoBe water with Kate in her cabin on Friday night. I can't see it happening, but I fear this is their dream and their point in booking this cruise. THAT would be "worth it" to them. Anything less will probably be seen as a rip-off and a huge snub.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Do U know how 2play Kate? We can have teams play on cruise! A chance 4U 2challenge him again! He thinks he's invincible! LOL
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Can someone puhleeeeeeze explain to me what the hell M&J is talking about? I just don't understand what kHate is challenging him with/about. M&J is certifiable!
What I'd like Kate to bear in mind is that letting the twins do things simply because they're a) older and b) easier to manage (trick or treating, trips alone with Mom, etc.) and c) it's cheaper is going to create resentment and anger in her younger children, if it hasn't already.
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Not that I want to give Kate any credit, but it seems like the treatment between the twins and the tups is kind of evening out now since the tups got so much special treatment during the show (extra birthday parties and the like). I think it's nice for the twins to get some special time with their mom, I just wish it wasn't another "working vacation" like on this cruise. I also wish she gave her sons some special time too. And one on one time for those kids!
You only have to look at all of Kate's encouraging tweets to the desperate fans to know this is a scam. She is building up an incredible fantasy of the relationships they will have on this cruise we all know Kate won't stand for in real life. If she does indeed invite them up for 10pm sushi and sake and shouts to them across the hall and sunbathes together with them, prove me wrong. The sheeple fancy themselves Jack on Titanic, invited up to dinner with a much less classier Kate (Gosselin, not Winslet) and all the other beautiful rich snobs. There they'll form a beautiful friendship with her, write each other notes about meeting up with each other later, draw each other wearing expensive diamonds, and die in each other's arms.
They don't know that they will be rowing with the other slaves in steerage, perhaps allowed up for air for a brief time, and that that movie is just a movie, it never really happened!
For some the horse craziness never ends. lol I don't have any to ride anymore (my own or friends) but am still as crazy at 50+ yrs old.
As for Kate getting them a horse I just cringe thinking about it. As much as I love horses I know anything can happen with regards to safety. Kate knows nothing and those kids could get seriously hurt even on a super tame horse. Plus a horse's health can be ruined just from things like overeating grains or grass. I can't see Kate taking the time to learn and watch things like that. She wouldnt be able to take time out of her selfish life to do it.
Actually I had to cringe about the kids just riding at a friend or neighbor's. It's very dangerous. Close friend of the family, my sister's very close friend, died at 19 years old at one of the many Northeast horse farms. She was majoring in animal husbandry and bent down to look at a horse's leg. For whatever reason, the horse got spooked and kicked straight on her neck. He broke her neck and she died. It was AWFUL and a stark reminder these animals are big, they are dangerous though not usually malicious, and you have to be so, so careful.
I would urge people not to let their kids just ride wherever until the child has gotten extensive lessons not just in how to ride, but safety. By all means these kids should get LESSONS if they want to ride horses. Safety training is built right into the lessons. Fork over some of that cruise money Kate and get these kids what they want.
If Kate is taking the twins along with her on this cruise, she better hire a nanny, based on this information:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2082877/Daughter-15-Royal-Caribbean-cruise-raped-2-men-private-room.html
During the seven days, there are only three days with scheduled activities with Kate. She makes it sound like they will all be sleeping in the same hallway and be next door neighbors. This impression is wrong. Kate will probably be off in a different part of the ship. I dont blame Kate for this. I would not want to have fans knocking on my door while I try to sleep or get quiet time. The problem is that she is making it sound like she will be with her fans every moment of the cruse. Kate will NOT be with them every moment. She will be with them during the scheduled times. There will be no private moments during that scheduled time.
My biggest scam alarm right now is the fuel surcharge fee. The website for this cruse says that there will be a fuel surcharge of $70/day. THe RC website says
For US reservations, Royal Caribbean International reserves the right to impose a fuel supplement on all guests if the price of West Texas Intermediate fuel exceeds $65.00 USD per barrel. The fuel supplement for 1st and 2nd guests would be no more than $10 USD per guest per day, to a maximum of $140 USD per cruise; and for additional guests would be no more than $5 USD per person per day, to a maximum of $70 USD per cruise.
Either the kate cruse website is wrong or Alice Travel is trying to get more money off the fans by jacking up the fuel surcharge fee.
I worry about any of the kids going on the cruse. It would be a great experience for the twins to go on. I just worry about their safety. I hope they have a chaperone (ie body guard/ nanny) with them at all times on the cruse. They deserve to have some time to relax and enjoy the kids entertainment on the ship.
I am sure Kart looks at herself in the mirror often and long, and I am also sure she has never seen the comparison to Mrs Wiggins. That is hilarious! What a chuckle that gave me, thanks!
Pam said... 178
ouderkirkmike @Kateplusmy8 Did "The Cupcake Guy" ever try to get ahold of you?
1 hour ago from LG Phone
@ouderkirkmike lol no... Not my type :)
1 hour ago - Twitterrific
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Did you see his tweet to Khate before that?
ouderkirkmike
@Kateplusmy8 Your the hottest mom ever. Love ya Kate
Kateplusmy8
ouderkirkmike aw thanks for your vote :)
He's been tweeting her for a while, but that's how he finally got her attention today.
This guy is a real pervert, but Khate's too stupid to care. She'll tweet any guy that tweets her that she's "hot".
A few weeks ago, he got the attention of the "haters" on Twitter because when a fan tweeted something admittedly crude about Khate, he jumped in (he wasn't part of the tweet), and replied to the tweet, but took it up a disgusting notch:
TallisF
@_Jacquesr @Kateplusmy8 Katie creams her thong just to be in a tabloid. Katie was source of rumor, she is desperate. sheeple help her!
ouderkirkmike
@TallisF Oh what a yummy creamie thong that must be..
That resulted in "haters" tweeting him what a pig he was, and then he responded back that they were all fat, miserable housewives, and pathetic bitches. (This coming from a guy who tweets women on TV, says they're "like family", tells them he loves them and misses them, tweets them that they're hot, beautiful, sexy, and he fantasizes about Kate's "yummy creamie thong", eww).
He has a thing for Taylor Swift, Britney Spears, Chelsea Handler, Dana Jacobson (an ESPN anchor), Eden's Edge (a country group, lol, I had to Google that), Meghan Linsey (from the country duo Steel Magnolia, I had to Google that too), Hope Solo and a few other women. He tweets Dana all the time. He claims he's 40 and has a daughter (according to one of his tweets).
@chelseahandler And I love you and your vodka drinking ass.
@djacobsonespn Yup. He's baaaack. Miss you Dana
@djacobsonespn Dana I really wanna dinner date with you. Mike in Grand Rapids.
@taylorswift13 Taylor I am 40 yrs old and have never cared for celebrities. But u r so talented.
@taylorswift13 Can't wait to see u in Grand Rapids. Would love to say hi with my daughter. Please
@hopesolo Yuk. I still think your the hottest woman ever
@taylorswift13 Everything you do is adorable. I am a huge fan even though my guy friends give me crap. Love what your about. Mike in G.R
@taylorswift13 Happy Birthday to the coolest woman on earth....
@taylorswift13 Taylor I am 40 and at ur GR show is the first time being star struck. Ah oh oh oh can't get it out of my head ;)
@djacobsonespn Not being disrespectfull at all. But damn your Hottt in leather..
@chelseahandler Jen's my new fave I'd like to go down on. She overtook Sarah. But still want you a lil even though you've been ruined
@djacobsonespn Yup miss u bunches in Mi......
@djacobsonespn Will you wear the leather jacket tomorrow pleeeaze. Go out lookin sexy
I love Twitter cause I got to tell Meghan how much I enjoy her voice and her beauty. Eden's Edge also rock's. Support you guys nomatter what
@djacobsonespn Dana you Jaybird and Skip are like family and I will truely miss you. Thanks for responding to my Tweets with honest
@chelseahandler Merry Christmas to my favorite drunk. Sexy one at that
@chelseahandler Watching slut...
@shaktipat1 Tweet some funny shit beautifull. Miss you
@djacobsonespn Your so adorable. I didnt like you for like 5 years. Then u stepped it up and I adore you now.
He has a preoccupation with Khate's KIDS. I'm sorry, I do not think it's normal for a 40 year old dad to be tweeting about how much he likes some stranger's kids on TV. It's downright creepy for some guy to talk about her kids and how he loves them and misses them on TV, while also tweeting Khate that she's hot, and fantasizing about her "yummy creamie thong" (again, eww):
ouderkirkmike
@Kateplusmy8 Awesome cake Kate. Wish you the best on your run.
@TekkeeVee Did you see sexy Kate in her running shirt. Just dreamy. Have a good night
@Kateplusmy8 Good job Kate. Proud of you. I would never even attempt that
@Kateplusmy8 I just love Kateplusmyeight. How can I get an autograph?
@Kateplusmy8 You don't have to bust any rumors cause I love Kateplusher8...
@Kateplusmy8 Night Kate. Please block all the trash that sends nonsense to you.
@Kateplusmy8 Ok Kate I sent a nice tweet from the heart. Then was attacked by your hater mob. I still love @Kateplusmy8
@Kateplusmy8 Your haters led me to there trap and I fell for it. Oops my bad. I love me some Kate G.... Merry Christmas to u and ur Babies
@dusty1100 Read the compliments from her fans. People do like her and her kids.
@Kateplusmy8 How's the lovely Kate today.
@Kateplusmy8 Night Kate your the best and so are your lil one's. God Bless
@Kateplusmy8 I love me some Kate!!!!
Kateplusmy8
Mady:'I hate2wrap' i sd'imagine how i feel!' Mady:'but u lik2 wrap' Me:'no i don't' so she talked loudly ovr me saying'OHYES I LOV2WRAP!'
ouderkirkmike
@Kateplusmy8 How precious.
@Kateplusmy8 Merry Christmas to Kate and the 8 cutest kids ever. Hope big things happen in the New Year.
@Kateplusmy8 Back to reality today. Still supporting you and yours. Love ya
@Kateplusmy8 Have a blessed New Year Kate and kids.
@Kateplusmy8 Its weird that a small mob sends your fans ignorant tweets. They should put that energy in somethin pos. I love Kateplusher8
@Kateplusmy8 I miss seeing you and the kids. Huge fan here that wishes you the best.
@Kateplusmy8 Your the hottest mom ever. Love ya Kate
@Kateplusmy8 Did "The Cupcake Guy" ever try to get ahold of you?
Oh, one more thing. Shortly after he started going at it with the haters a few weeks ago, Paige tweeted something random from school. She didn't even tweet Khate. It was just a random tweet on her page, but he saw it and replied to Paige, by telling her how harassed he was by the haters. Obviously he's been reading Khate's page and knew Paige was a huge fan, BUT he has to know she's only 17!
Paige_Kate8fan
Hahaha a kid just fell in a desk! The desk fell too haha!
ouderkirkmike
@Paige_Kate8fan Omg I sent Kate a nice tweet lastnight and got hatetweets allnight and just got more. Whats wrong with people?
Next thing you now, he's following Paige AND she's following him.
You just can't make this crap up.
Anonymous said..."And I believe in letting adults make decisions for themselves. Since there is no evidence that this is a scam, I certainly wouldn't be telling anyone that it is. It is incredibly patronizing to treat people as if they are too stupid to think for themselves."
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Anon, you must be Julie May C. or a rep from Alice travel. Because someone who didn't stand to line their pockets off this debacle wouldn't mind our attempts to make the fans fully aware of what is going on here.
Four people have publicly stated they are going. The majority of fans flat out said they can't afford it, good for them for saying so. And that should have been the end of it. Instead of Kate saying she understood, SHE patronized them and tried to guilt them out by twatting "It's a shame $$ has to get in the way of family vacations and making memories" WTF! How freakin' insensitive is that?
This from the woman who had TLC pay for ALL of her family vacations for the last 5 years PLUS she was PAID to take them.
Sheeple are not flocking to book this cruise so she's uping the ante by implying they are going to all be BFFs for the whole cruise. If you think it is ok for her to continue to prod people who have said they can't afford it by making some vague promises of extra time with her, then there's something really wrong with you.
Anonymous who won't follow rule #1 and pick a name said: "It is incredibly patronizing to treat people as if they are too stupid to think for themselves."
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There's nothing incredibly patronizing about it, when these people have demonstrated over and over again that they ARE too stupid to think for themselves. I remember one sheeple who tweeted Kate from a parking lot, asking if she could get electrocuted in a thunderstorm, or what she should do because she was constipated, and asked advice because her roommate was in the bathroom and she couldn't get in there when nature called; or the one whose baby was crying for two days and she wanted to know if she should put her on the washing machine; or the one who stood outside like an idiot, waving a poster in the parking lot; or the one who wanted to know why she could never balance her checking account and could Kate take a look at it. Yes, these people can really think for themselves! Some of them are so dumb that they could throw themselves on the ground and miss.
Their adoration of Kate, and the possibility of becoming her best friend, clouds their ability to make a wise decision on how to spend their money. Collectively, their IQ is so low that they trip over it, and that's being generous.
Then, there's this...Kate totally engaging them and stringing them along until they sign up for the cruise:
MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Hope U will not be disappointed when U actually meet me if this cruise thing pans out!
Kateplusmy8
@MiloandJack nope. Totally excited!
Sure, she is...really excited. So excited that she's calling in the troops to make sure she had adequate protection from these over-the-top nutcases.
Wayward, completely agree with your post.
As far as I know, no one here has tried to personally contact anyone going or considering going, not even via Twitter. No one is trying to contact Kate or the travel agency to stop Kate. I heard one person asked the travel agency how much interest they are getting, but I didn't hear that person or anyone trying to stop them from putting this event on.
What we are doing, is talking about problems we see with this cruise, things we have seen misrepresented based on our own cruise experience or experience of those we know well, the bait and switch as to whether the kids will be there or not for the sheeple to feast their eyes on, the gross underestimating of the true cost of this trip that is going on plus all the hidden fees, discussing Kate's efforts to promote this via her tweets, including making it seem like everyone who goes will be able to cuddle up with her at the slumber party, her interactions with clearly unstable fans, her insensitive responses to those who can't afford it (implying you can't make memories without money, what an insult to the mediocre who give their families wonderful memories every day without a lot of money), and on and on. We're talking about it, period, and nothing more.
I will not live in a place where people can't speak their minds about things that they find shady. Especially things incredibly shady and borderline misrepresentative if not outright fraudulent, like this is.
Yes, Midnight.
Also, it really, really bugs me that Kate is outright preying on the disabled, the medically fragile, the feeble minded, the obsessive personalities, and the teenagers. In fact it's rare you see her not talking to someone that isn't in one of those categories or more than one. So many of them have fully owned these, we know this is what they are. Well, not the feeble minded one but any sheeple that tweets Kate to ask her a question about their sick child is stupid.
WTF. These are the very people we as a society should look out for the most. I'm sure many of us have someone close to us who is in that category, I know I do, and I know if I knew about a celeb was leading them on like Kate is and conning them out of what little money they have, I'd have some real ass kicking to do.
You know it's strange the way I've sort of come around on the fans. At first I thought they were a real vile bunch, and really wanted nothing to do with them. But now I feel sorry for them and protective of them, and I want Kate to back off from them. Any fan who has been with her this long has something seriously wrong with her upstairs--so back off, Kate. At the end of the day, they are people. I don't really feel that sort of disgust with them anymore, I feel more like I'm watching someone be bullied and just want to see that bully carted off and away from them.
Anonymous, since you've taken the time to read our thoughts on how this cruise will go, please share with us what you think the cruise will be like.
Every single day adults talk to each other about concerns they have. This is no different than if two women have a conversation at the water cooler about a cruise, and woman A tells woman B, who is dying to go on a cruise, about her bad experience, the hidden fees, getting sick, the questionable safety record, the bad food.
Woman A is not trying to be "superior." Woman A is sharing information and hopefully prevent woman B from having a bad time, or at least if she does go, does her research carefully.
This is how adults communicate and help each other. Just because you are sharing concerns with someone doesn't mean you're trying to tell the other person you're superior. Just because you have information someone else doesn't doesn't mean you're better. And just because someone is disabled, or young, or stupid, doesn't mean you are superior because you're not. Gosh I can't imagine going through life and thinking that every adult that ever shares information with me and help me is trying to be superior.
I think perhaps the delusional fancy the cruise will look something like this:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxie3rsPf71qd26da.jpg
Group hug time around Kate for six hours a day, followed by bachi ball and tournament checkers, a fancy meal where they interlock arms and feed each other spaghetti ala Lady and the Tramp, followed by slow dancing to Lionel Richie in the deck club, perhaps a midnight glass of sake, and then retire to Kate's room where they will put on PJs, some Taylor Swift on the iPod, and tell boyfriend stories and play truth or dare. Brunch the next morning after cuddling up to sleep in Kate's bed. Somewhere along the way, Kate will tell Lights Out Man to suck it, we're on her schedule now.
Yes, this is how it will go.
Damn, I'm wondering if I missed anything but I refuse to break my personal rule of automatically scrolling past any post that is made by any "Anonymous".
However, I did enjoy reading the excellent points made in the posts by Wayward, Midnight Madness, and Admin.
I get the impression that someone is awfully concerned about what THE most read Gosselin blog (by sheeple and non-fans alike) is saying about this cruise.
NLAN @21:
These are tweets that this guy sent to other people, not Kate, correct? Yes, he tweeted Kate, and he is clearly nuts, but I thought admin said that the tweets posted here should be directly related to Kate, or should come from Kate.
Just trying to clarify the tweeting rules here.
I hope this guy isn't going on the cruise!
Nobody Likes a Narcissist (NLAN) said... 40
Damn, I'm wondering if I missed anything but I refuse to break my personal rule of automatically scrolling past any post that is made by any "Anonymous".
I dont think you are missing much NLAN. I scanned through a few of the posts and it seems like they are responding to a broken record The Anonymous poster keeps repeating the same thing over and over again. All broken records should be taken out to the trash.
These are tweets that this guy sent to other people, not Kate, correct? Yes, he tweeted Kate, and he is clearly nuts, but I thought admin said that the tweets posted here should be directly related to Kate, or should come from Kate.
Just trying to clarify the tweeting rules here.
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That's the general rule that I ask people to follow but don't really have time to enforce.
This is a good reminder that I don't want this to be a playground to bash tweeties. I have no problem talking about what is said as it relates to Kate, the cruise, confusion and delusions about how the cruise will be, nor do I have a problem pointing out potential dangers to Kate or the kids. But bashing just to bash isn't preferred. I'd actually prefer people not include tweetie names except when it comes to a few of the regulars. But I also don't want to be the land of 1,000 blog rules.
I can't stand Michael Moore, and Capitalism a Love Story, which I did see, is not exactly the best source.
God bless the internet: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/9886/lies-damn-lies-michael-moore-cinema-polemics/
It is also my opinion that the Bernie Madoff comparison is ridiculous and truly insulting to those who lost their life savings to that man.
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Bernie's victims lost their life savings, and for many sheeple who believe that they will socialize with Kate, the cruise fare may be THEIR life savings.
"Somewhere along the way, Kate will tell Lights Out Man to suck it,"
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...or give Steve instructions to punch his lights out!
Moore asked, "Have you contacted the Better Business Bureau about this 'scam' you think RCC, Alice Travel and Kate G. have running?"
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Alice Travel isn't BBB accredited. There's no point.
Oh, just like that shady charity wasn't a 501c.
Amazing this "underworld" that goes on every day I've been more aware of since following this Greek tragedy. At what point do you let it happen, or say, no this isn't okay with me?
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 46
These are tweets that this guy sent to other people, not Kate, correct? Yes, he tweeted Kate, and he is clearly nuts, but I thought admin said that the tweets posted here should be directly related to Kate, or should come from Kate.
Just trying to clarify the tweeting rules here.
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That's the general rule that I ask people to follow but don't really have time to enforce.
This is a good reminder that I don't want this to be a playground to bash tweeties. I have no problem talking about what is said as it relates to Kate, the cruise, confusion and delusions about how the cruise will be, nor do I have a problem pointing out potential dangers to Kate or the kids. But bashing just to bash isn't preferred. I'd actually prefer people not include tweetie names except when it comes to a few of the regulars. But I also don't want to be the land of 1,000 blog rules.
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Sorry if I broke any rules, Admin. Of course, I'd prefer the admonition to have come from YOU as the owner of this blog. Nice to see that "Sheep Travel Inc." is so concerned and in need of a clarification of the rules. Too bad she's not concerned about the repeated violation of Rule #1 tonight by "Anonymous". It's the FIRST rule, but this person is not only repeatedly posting comments, but also being engaged. Odd.
In any event, I wasn't posting tweets to "bash" the tweeter. I simply posted some of his tweets to other women on TV (as well as many of his tweets to Khate) just from these last few weeks to show what he's tweeting other women, including Khate. It does illustrate what kind of person this guy is. Twitter is a VERY public forum, and that is why I don't bother removing their names that THEY have chosen for Twitter.
Most troubling are his tweets that she's hot, sexy, and must have a "yummy, creamie thong" (eww) while also tweeting about how much he loves her kids and misses watching them on television. That is certainly not someone she should be tweeting with or encouraging. However, now that he called her "hot", he got her attention and I'm sure, based on her past behavior, she will start replying to more of his tweets as she did today.
On another note, I really wish people wouldn't feed the trolls.
To Hmm.
The first post that started this called people "petty." Then it specifically, and snottily, accused Dallas Lady of being "the arbiter of whether a vacation is worth it." This blog has had a very friendly tone all day, which I guess pissed someone off. This post was nasty from the beginning, but I gave it the benefit of the doubt and let it through. And, it incidentally targeted the same nice person DL as was attacked last time this game was played. Hmmm indeed.
The truth is, right out of the gate it was insulting, and insulting specific posters. That is not a friendly "calm" debate, that is a troll who wants to get everyone worked up, then turn around and cry censorship when I finally get sense enough to stop it. I know this game, it's the same playbook every time. You don't have to agree, but move on. Unless you sincerely want to debate whatver it is you want to debate without other posters.
NLAN said...That is certainly not someone she should be tweeting with or encouraging. However, now that he called her "hot", he got her attention and I'm sure, based on her past behavior, she will start replying to more of his tweets as she did today.
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How many times today since he called her "hot," has she responded to him, and what were her comments? She certainly does attract the weird ones, doesn't she?
Admin, on a lighter note, I think you'd find this cartoon funny (it was posted at Preesi's last week) - a perfect depiction of Khate, Steve, and the sheeple on their cruise:
http://tinypic.com/r/30ho5ys/5
(Khate's the bitch sitting in the chair, as usual, lol)
Sleepless in Seattle said... 38
NLAN said...That is certainly not someone she should be tweeting with or encouraging. However, now that he called her "hot", he got her attention and I'm sure, based on her past behavior, she will start replying to more of his tweets as she did today.
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How many times today since he called her "hot," has she responded to him, and what were her comments? She certainly does attract the weird ones, doesn't she?
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So far, just once after the "hot" comment:
ouderkirkmike
@Kateplusmy8 Your the hottest mom ever. Love ya Kate
Kateplusmy8
@ouderkirkmike aw thanks for your vote :)
ouderkirkmike
@Kateplusmy8 Did "The Cupcake Guy" ever try to get ahold of you?
Kateplusmy8
@ouderkirkmike lol no... Not my type :)
But, now that he got her attention, I'm sure she will be replying to him more.
Re Bernie Madhoff fleecing people of their life savings....isn't thst what Kate's doing? Especially to the teenagers? $1900 could easily BE their life savings.
Does anyone think it's weird how Kate talks on twitter? Does this sound like a 36 yo to you? She sounds like she's 8.
I also think it's very un-nerving the way she even acknowledges the people that say icky things.
And I REALLY don't like her interacting with under-age kids. Especially in a format where their parents could be pretty unaware of what's being said. And instead of saying check with your parents, she's saying "do it". I don't like that at all.
Not something a respsonsible adult does. No matter who they are.
just Googleglasses episode......near human
Kate...Jon was happy drs found problem.......Kate wanted perfect 6
Sof
sorry for typos.android phone...sheesh
I guess I see things differently, but I don't think M/J is crazy at all. I think she is very crafty and is beating KT at her own game.
But then I am the one who thinks the kids are much more savvy than given credit for on the show. I think they learned early on how to make good TV, but their competitive mom got in the way and messed it all up, by insisting the show become about her.
HOW can the bitch say such stupid stuff
(Instead of Kate saying she understood, SHE patronized them and tried to guilt them out by twatting "It's a shame $$ has to get in the way of family vacations and making memories")
$$ not coming in from tlc is what stopped her family vacations and making memories.
It would appear that all her tanning and frying her bleached out mess of hair has also FRIED what little brain she had and she cannot remember a damn thing she says from one minute to the next. She usually contradicts herself in the same sentence! (much as I don't want to read or talk about her, couldn't let this one pass)
Just had the thought of TLC. I can only imagine the relief the suits there must be feeling. They have detached from Kate. Her current antics do not reflect back to them. Don't you just wonder what they say in the privacy of their own offices? I am sure they aren't analyzing their responsibility in this disaster. But, I am equally sure they are relieved to have Kate out of their current programming.
TLC may have detached from Kate, but they are the ones who created her, and in a way, will always be a bit accountable for her actions.
Winsome - 47. I completely agree. And, I think they are contributing equally to new "creations" from current reality programs.
NLAN Said...
I get the impression that someone is awfully concerned about what THE most read Gosselin blog (by sheeple and non-fans alike) is saying about this cruise
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Oh, you got that one right, NLAN! The Sheeple love to dismiss the
"Haters" as being a foul-mouthed, irrational, unbalbanced pack of animals, and they can't stand that some of what I would call "Dissenters" (all of us here) can express rational, well-thought-out concerns about this woman. They want all of us to go away since the kids are off TV, but the problem is that Kate is still using them for marketing purposes, and now she is using the people who support her to squeeze everything she can get out of them.
The odd thing is, they are so wrapped up in wanting Kate to succeed in making a living by fleecing others rather than working a "real" job. It's as if, by watching her refuse to do an honest day's work, they think she (and, by extension, they) is/are giving us the finger. This is not a contest to destroy or to save Kate. This is a group of concerned citizens who recognize a monstrous user/grifter in their midst and hope to keep her from doing any more damage to the kids or to the people who adore her. At first it was the kids who needed saving from her malignant narcissism. Now she's casting her net (web?) wider and trying to find vulnerable members of the general public to use to meet her own goals. She doesn't care about the damage she may cause them, as long as she gets what she wants. She can't hurt any of us, because we won't give her anything, but she'll sure as heck take from them until they have nothing left to give.
Oops, that was supposed to be "unbalanced". Can you believe I was an English major in college? I bring shame upon all the other English majors out there. Sorry, guys!
I think the thing with Kate that boils my blood is that she has been so used to grifting and relying on OTHERS to support her and the tups since Day One (over 7 years)- church, fans, sponsored freebies galore, TLC, book signings, $20 photos signed, that she has no ablility to function without the "grifter factor." She is clearly shameless, but is using the same formula to try and guilt her fans to sign on for the cruise, when many of them have clearly said they can not afford it. She barely has a work history, TLC totally ruined her by paying for trips, purchasing endless items Kate "needed," and paying her a huge salary and for everything and beyond (nannies and bodyguard). This woman clearly has no idea of how a "normal" person functions in society, and since her show has been cancelled, still expects others to cater to her needs. TLC created a monster using a narcissist as their subject, and it clearly shows. This "woman" clearly never learned how to function on her own, letalone as a mother of 8.
Layla, your posts are always well thought out and well written, and I enjoy reading them. There is no shame in a typo - English major or not. (I know you were kidding, but I just wanted to let you know your posts are appreciated.) Have a great day.
e is clearly shameless, but is using the same formula to try and guilt her fans to sign on for the cruise, when many of them have clearly said they can not afford it.
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And, even when some tell them no or it doesn't look that probable, she can't accept no for an answer. She starts with the "plllease, plllease" begging. It's rude and unattractive. If someone tells you no I can't afford something, you respond oh that's too bad I'm going to miss you maybe next time. The end of it, move on.
49- Layla- Great Post! Missed it while I was posting. The alleged Haters, "for the most part," are more concerned about the kids and Kate's lack of mothering since day one. She used everyone to try to make herself a "star," forgetting about her kids along the way. And not much has changed. It may have become even worse, with the cancellation of the show, if possible.
With a narcissist, it all becomes about them. The kids almost seem to be an after thought, in her pursuit of fame, and that is what bothers us most. Next are the fans who is she is now trying to fleece in order to earn money off the cruise.
I think the thing I hate most about Kate is that everything she does is for HER, never the kids, and certainly not the fans.
But then I am the one who thinks the kids are much more savvy than given credit for on the show. I think they learned early on how to make good TV, but their competitive mom got in the way and messed it all up, by insisting the show become about her.
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This I agree with. I think some of those kids played TLC and Kate like a fiddle. Especially Mady.
The sad part is some of these moms will be paying the credit cards off for years to come long after the thrill is gone. In this economy, no one knows what the future holds.
Just back to the original topic. She really does look like Mrs. Wiggins. Here's a side-by-side with Kate Gosselin and Mrs. Wiggins. They even sit with their legs in the same position.
link to pic
hhahaha
http://tinypic.com/r/30ho5ys/5
Good morning all! No school today but lots to do... Only it will get done 8 X's slower
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Way to blame the kids. Not to mention exaggerate.
I gues Stevie and Katie can D-List themselves around the world for pennies.
Here is a follow up article to the Diamonds and Caviar Gala. It also has 8 pictures you can look through.
www.royalgazette.com/article/20120116/NEWS/701169959/-1
There is one comment on the bottom, which pretty much sums up what everyone on this blog thought when reading about this event.
I still believe Kate backed out for reasons other than she thought it was a scam. I think it had everything to do with thinking it would cost her money and that it wasn't the type of crowd she would want to rub elbows with.
They say in the article they are planning another Gala to be held in the next three months. LOL
To Done & Done: this equaling out of the twins & tups, is not a real thing. In a childs mind, the tups are still treated special and the twins are not. They did start showing K8 on thusday on Discovery, I was watching something else when it came on. before I could change channel, It was the tups b-day in florida, and happen to catch one of the twins, going off on why the tups get special treatment and another party. Taking the twins on the cruise(if it happens), will only cause more jealousy among the 8. Kate has never taught the kids that, for example: this is the twins b-birthday only, you tups do not get a present or special treatment. Same goes for the tups, all 8 of you get 2 b-days and that is it. One from me and one from your dad. But not Kate, 3 b-days for the tups. One from mom w/twins, one from dad w/twins and one w/school mates & twins. Yes it does sound like the twins are getting 3 b-days plus their own b-days, which totals 6 b-days, celebrated. These children don't know when their b-day is and when the tups b-day is(perhaps Jon makes that difference happen, cause Kate does not, she lumps all 8 together). Children always are comparing things, parents love etc. When TLC was in the pic, it was mostly about the tups, cause twins are more common. Take notice on every year it was the tups birthday bash, the twins, a little party, if they even showed it. You don't think, those twins got jealous, they did and probably still do. And this is all Kate doing.
Totally OT, but when I saw this I knew that you would all enjoy it. Sorry that I don't know how to make it clickable but maybe someone can do it for me.
http://jesserosten.com/2012/fotoshop-by-adobe
Re; Diamonds and Caviar Gala
Yes, she definitely didn't go because it would have cost her cash. She's not interested unless she's the one grifting, not the other way around with giving to another grifter, lol. Which I am fully convinced was the intent of this event.
That's why she had that tweet about sending the info about the nearby 5K to her "manager". Unless she's getting something out of it (including publicity), she's not interested.
Wouldn't a few 5k's be great training for her next big marathon? Seems to me it's a training exercise and as an added bonus, charitable. Most running programs have 5k's and 10k's built in. Not really for the distance but just for the race feel--to practice run in huge crowds, the noise and stress and anticipation of it and working through that.
Not a thankful, charitable bone in Kate's body, in spite of all the "charity" she has received over the years.
All about Kate.
Forget the charity, she can't even seem to see that practicing a real race is great training for the next marathon. She could still make it all about her and her training. She hears charity, I might have to GIVE something instead of take, and runs away. Can't see past the end of her nose.
Very funny video NJGal and the link was clickable for me. Kate you re photoshopped all the way in every magazine you were in!
"I guess I see things differently, but I don't think M/J is crazy at all. I think she is very crafty and is beating KT at her own game."
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Interesting concept, although I do think that she's crazy. If her plan is to get Kate's attention, then yes, she is beating Kate at her own game, but the bottom line is that with all of her insane tweets and antics, the end result will be that if she does go on the cruise, Kate most certainly will avoid her and will not interact with her at all...because Kate KNOWS that she is nuts.
Great point that most runners/marathoners run local races for the practice/experience, WITHOUT GETTING PAID. But in Kate's warped narcisstic mind- it is not worth doing unless she gets paid. She really is a twisted person, who gives nothing back to anyone.
anger issues kate 62 -- I completely agree with you. The twins have been told and shown in every way possible since they were 3 1/2 that they are yesterday's news and that they take a back seat to the 6. In addition, Kate fosters favoritism and jealousy among the kids, by insisting on birth order always, by emphasizing that Cara is the "oldest" despite knowing that it upsets Mady when she does this, by blatantly favoring the girls over the boys. She's deliberately fostering sibling rivalry and setting these kids up for competition among themselves. In a way this may be smart on Kate's part. If she creates enough division among the kids, they won't all band together against her when they get older.
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@msgoody2shoes21 @kateplusmy8 Kate's kids are on a bus or at school 13 hrs a day. Awake at home 4 hrs a day.Kate has 28hrs a week with kids
Since when? Thirteen hours? To some kids, it may SEEM, that long! However, if the kids leave at 7 a.m. and get home at 4 p.m., how is that thirteen hours?
I can answer some of the running questions. Yes, local 5k and 10k races are an important part of training for a marathon. It's not about the distance, it's about getting the feel of a race. You have to learn to deal with the crowds of other racers and pace yourself when you want to just take off at the beginning.
I don't understand her running and have called her on some of her inconsistencies before on this blog. The main one is her times. She claimed at one point to run an 8-something minute mile. We've seen video of her running. That's ridiculous and her RnR Vegas time backs me up. Anyway, I won't get into all of that again. I just don't get why she has to make stuff up. She is always proven to be a liar and it makes her look so much worse than if she'd just admit she's a newbie at something or struggles like everyone else.
I wish all of Kate's fans could go on this trip. I'm so interested to see what their thoughts of her are once they get back.
I don't think it's going to be the '24/7 spend time with Kate fest' that most of them are envisioning.
And even with Steve running Kate's interference for her ... I still think it will reflect poorly with some of her fans.
Should be interesting ...
Nobody Likes a Narcissist (NLAN) said... 28
Damn, I'm wondering if I missed anything but I refuse to break my personal rule of automatically scrolling past any post that is made by any "Anonymous".
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Do you scroll past all "Anonymous", or just ones without names attached? We have one computer that I can't post from unless I post under "Anonymous", but I always put my name at the end of the post. I know there are others here who do that, too, so they may have a similar problem. I have no problem posting under my actual name on the rest of our computers.
That said, there are some pretty insulting things that people post under "Anonymous", usually Sheeple who are bored and craving drama. They are looking for a drama/attention fix, so ignoring them is a great game plan.
61- I think she used "spending time with the kids this weekend," as a reason/excuse to back out of the Bermuda weekend trip, when Jon clearly has them this week-end.
She is simply not that original when she is not getting paid, as all can see. She is not with the kids Sat/Sunday. Although I think she made it clear on Twitter that she would be spending time with the kids this week-end. Way to use your kids Kate, like they ever stopped you from going to something you wanted to go to.
The sheeple last night was pretty rabid. Swooping in and throwing DL under the bus, then boohooing about censorship and claiming I endorsed racism. Quite a psychotic display.
They really are deranged. This particular one likes to show up around 11pm PST at night. Wonder if it's Sharla again. Thought I blocked her.
God has just helped CJ to cruise with Kate:
CJWhodunit
@Kateplusmy8 LOL, God worked out the details for us,ducks in a row,etc. etc. :-) We are very thankful logistics worked out!
So how many now 5?
God wants you to spend your life savings on a celebrity cruise. That's exactly what God wants.
ALice Travel has a cruise with Paula Deen up, and it actually looks pretty appealing. The whole Deenfamily is going and participating, which means people will have one-on-one time with several of them. There are about twice as many activities included. Onboard Deen Family Olympics? Who wouldn't rather do that than yet another (yawn) Q&A with Kate? The route is Eastern Carbbean (much better than Kate's route), and the prices start at $1578. And the Sheeple don't think they're being ripped off? Just shows how greedy Kate is.
Kate just retweeted that one of her sheeple is going on the cruise. WHY does she always retweet things that praise HER? She's a head scratcher, for sure.
Dear God, I would love a shiny new sports car.
Deliver!
I mean, please deliver.
Just going to respond to a couple of posters' questions.
1. If she trains with Rod Dixon (assuming he does this), she can do it over the internet. He will send her her schedule and she'll report her results as she does it. She doesn't have to go to LA to train. I had a running trainer at one point, and that's how we did it. It's cheaper too. :)
2. Anyone who owns horses and lets kids with no riding experience ride their horses better have their attorney on retainer.
At least Milo is sane enough to realize this:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 I can tell by the way Kate runs when I tweet that she is crossin her fingers that I DON'T GO! (Hope looney stays home!) LOL
However, she's still nuts:
miloandjack
@mumbear9 U love me...U love me not! Love me...love me not! Going or not? Going or not? @Kateplusmy8 Need 2torture Kate some more! :)
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Geez..I hate it when Kate does her "hit & run".one tweet thing! Knock me down & no further "are U alright" tweet? Come back!
I guess she think's she's Kate's social secretary:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 BIG FAN! PLS RETWEET SO I KNOW U SEE ME THANKS:) @Puppy22299...Kate, this kindergarten teacher would luv a tweet fr U!
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It seems that Milo is very much like Kate in that she loves attention - doesn't matter if it's negative, as long as she's the center of it.
My mental image of Milo is that she feels miserable, spends most of her time in bed or in a chair, is bored out of her mind, and has turned to Twitter as her counselor and playmate. She tweets just for something to do, and wants tweets returned so she will have something to read, something to reply to so her day will go faster. It doesn't have to be of substance, it just has to be something that makes her know there is someone out there beyond her 4 walls.
She may GO nuts if she didn't have something to occupy her mind.
Some people play solitaire. Some read books. Some watch TV. Some play video games. Some write in journals. Some chat on the phone. Milo may tweet. Whatever passes the time and
lets her know somebody knows she's there.
And the more she tweets with particular people, the bolder she becomes in what she will talk about. By now, she has probably shared shoe sizes and most embarrassing moments with Kate and other KateFans.
I agree about the training online and I hope she does it. I have a running coach in my area but most of my "training" comes in email form. She sends me my weekly schedule with very detailed paces and expectations. I report every detail about the runs and anything else that pertains to it-such as nutrition and health matters. An online coach can be a valuable tool and I hope she takes that opportunity to learn from someone who knows what they're doing.
It looks like CJWhodunit is going on the cruise with Kate. Yee Haw.
Speaking of Paula Deen:
"Celebrity chef Paula Deen has been made famous for her comfort food-style recipes full of fried fare, butter and fat, but the health effects of her cooking may have caught up with her. According to Us Weekly, the 64-year-old Deen is planning to confirm rumors that she has been diagnosed with type two diabetes during a “Today Show” interview with Al Roker next Tuesday."
Critics on television last night had some rather nasty things to say about her and what this will do to her "empire" if this is true.
Aw poor Paula Deen.
I don't think anyone who watches thinks it's really advisable to eat that way ALL the time. I think you can eat that way on special occasions in moderation and still be quite healthy.
I've wondered about that snooty Barefoot Contessa as well. She is very overweight and cooks lots of sweets.
I think some of these women think that you're not really a credible female chef if you're not a little chubby. Sad.
Paula Deen might go the way of the Galloping Gourmet, Graham Kerr. He was a chef who luxuriated in full-fat, flavorful meals. Then coronary heart disease got him. He switched up his menus to be healthy, low fat and just kept cooking. I don't keep up with him, so I don't know what he's doing now.
fidosmommy said... 88
It looks like CJWhodunit is going on the cruise with Kate. Yee Haw.
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Too funny! You know, if this cruise wasn't happening in the dead of summer in hurricane season, I might consider going just to watch all of this drama unfold, especially now that CJ is going and if Milo decides to go. Good entertainment!
It would be nice to have a blogger on board blogging about these events. Hilarity ensues, surely.
It sure as heck won't be me though. Anyone?
When I was in Pulmonary Rehabilitation I would put the TV in front of my treadmill on The Food Network. At noon, Paula Deen came on. At noon, one of the other patients came. She would climb on the treadmill, look at the TV and turn to me.
"How many sticks of butter did she start with on this recipe?" was the first thing out of her mouth every single time. We would then count out the amount of other things like oil, mayonnaise, cheese, etc. that got added as Paula cooked.
No taker here admin. I feel just a little bit dumber every time I read something those sheeple write. I can't even begin to imagine how mind-numbing they are in person.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 93
It would be nice to have a blogger on board blogging about these events. Hilarity ensues, surely.
It sure as heck won't be me though. Anyone?
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Admin, once the cruise is over, there may be any number of angry and frustrated cruisemates who
would be more than happy to write a summary of the trip here or anywhere. We may get more info than we even care to read. There is no greater wrath than a Sheeple ignored, right? Just be patient. I think we'll get the scoop.
Paula Deen will surely have to rebrand herself. It may be a great boost to her career. I think her cooking is over the top-- I generally do not make any of her food, but a love watching her.
And that house!
Her son Bobby is coming out with a new show that focuses on healthier cooking and eating. Coinkydink?
A Paula Deen comment -- I participated in a sponsored event with Michael (husband) and Paula. It was through Harrah's. He had been ill and she was at the beginning stages of catching his cold. They both apologized to those of us in attendance. I guess they thought they weren't as engaging, however, we would not have known. They were warm, funny, attentive and delightful. Anyone going on a cruise with that family will most likely have a wonderful time. PS: Paula is a raunchy broad....I didn't know that till I met her and heard her talk!
NLAN said (#18) It's downright creepy for some guy to talk about her kids and how he loves them and misses them on TV, while also tweeting Khate that she's hot, and fantasizing about her "yummy creamie thong" (again, eww)
Where is Kate's super special security team? Sad that it is her critics that bother to take the time to protect her safety--not her paid employees and uber-fans. This guy is really a creep and is clearly trolling for someone to respond to him. Obviously, his "creamy thong" comment isn't enough to get him blocked-- in fact, he scored a rare response and a big ol' Thank You from Kate.
If no one is even monitoring the twitter page for stalkers, exactly who is it that will be watching out for her and her family's safety on the big party boat? Well, I guess his money is as good as anyone's!
CJwhodunit is one of the nastiest sheeple in Sheepleland. Watch for a complete image rehab to ensue on her part. She says both her and her "tweenie" will be doing the Kate program. So that means there's now 5 paying for Kate. And another one has just chimed in as "almost" sure. Maybe she'll make the minimum number after all.
I'm sure we'll see reports or tweets about Kate aboard ship. Will she hide in a closet like she did at the book signing?
I'm not surprised that she's goading people into this cruise. That's a hell of a lot of money for most mediocre people and for some, it's really going to hurt and they will be paying it off for years to come.
Sometimes, the better part of valor is to protect people from themselves and if Kate had a moral compass, she'd be doing just that instead of saying "do it!!"
Hey Kate, put your kids in gymnastics!! DO IT!!!!
Pay for a beach house on your own dime!! DO IT!!
This reminds me of when the Osbourne's had their show and Ozzie and Sharon basically auctioned off a day for a fan to come into their home (creepy) and meet them. So of course, some lemming went into deep hock in order to make it happen. Sharon felt kind of bad, but didn't put a stop to it.
Alas, fodder for reality tv.
To be a fly on that cruse ship wall LOL. If she makes her minimum with the sheep that have been posting, then she is bringing a group of crazy ass disturbed people aboard. I am already sorry for the other paying guests. And they will see so, so little of K8 it's not even funny. Bon voyage fools.
There is no greater wrath than a Sheeple ignored, right? Just be patient. I think we'll get the scoop.
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Somehow I can't see a sheeple coming out and dishing the dirt on her, even if they were ignored. Don't they make excuses for her at any cost?
Why does she need a trainer? She already skipped through one marathon without breaking a sweat, with no formal training, right down to the lipstick before crossing the finish line into the "arms of R. Dixon." Seems like if you've done it once you could do it 10 times over without any problem.
And what is up with that kindergarten teacher, dying for a tweet from KT, that's just disgusting. Why would that mean so much to anybody, it's just empty words on a page with lots of exclamation points.
Midnight Madness said... 89
Speaking of Paula Deen
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Yeah speaking of Paula have you seen her butter popsicle?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owEjVxGEEDE&feature=player_embedded
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 93
It would be nice to have a blogger on board blogging about these events. Hilarity ensues, surely.
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I'd go, admin, I honestly would, but in hurricane season? Nope, not after this latest cruise ship tragedy. If this were being held in the late fall or spring, I'd hop right on it. I'd enjoy being an online reporter of the plight of the sheeple!
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Right up until Stevie came to your room and demanded "In your Neighborhood's" laptop. LOL! :)
Winsomeone said... 47
TLC may have detached from Kate, but they are the ones who created her, and in a way, will always be a bit accountable for her actions.
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I agree and more specifically I think Eileen O'Neill aka Dr. Frankenstein should have her feet held closer to the fire.
Asked to respond to criticism that TLC's Toddlers & Tiaras is a voyeuristic train wreck, O'Neill jokes: "No one's ever said that to me." And she defends the series as an unvarnished look at a $5 billion industry, insisting that the network is very cautious about how it portrays the children. "I appreciate the question because it's something we certainly wrestle with. We're not going to shy away from reality, but at the same time we're respectful of the fact that these kids have to go to school the next day," she says.
"A lot of us are parents, which helps us decide how far a storyline can go."
BS. She's been more than willing to go the distance to exploit families and especially children for the $$ factor. But I'll bet the farm we'll never see HER kid on a reality show.
One more...mattmull2010
@Kateplusmy8 booked my spot on the cruise - can not wait to ask questions about so many things!!!!!!
My husband and I try to eat healthy, so Paula Deen's recipes are somewhat off limits. Her buffets and restaurants are delicious places to eat for a treat! We did, however, get hooked on her coffee brand. I have to order from the internet unless I am near one of her "stores" in a Harrah's casino. I recommend Savannah Seduction as the BEST coffee we have ever poured into a steamy mug.
Paula Deen was the Rose Bowl Parade grand marshal last year. She went over the top beyond with it and interacting with everyone. She was hardly just a face in the car waving.
LOL AuntieAnn, BS was exactly my same reaction!
BS they care about the kids in school the next day. Like hell they do Proof exactly why adults who are raking in the money, cannot, under any circumstances, be trusted to make decisions in a child's best interest on set. Dance Moms is a huge concern for me now and on my radar, though that's a Lifetime show.
TLC, please, for the love of God, get an independent, independently licensed, set teacher on set who has been tested and certified in child labor laws and protection of children on set. EVEN if no laws are being broken, a set teacher has the power to stop production if things are unsafe for the child.
I think Paula Deen and her very authentic southern charm are very endearing. I even use a couple of her recipes once in a while. I wonder if she shamelessly plugged her own cruise. She probably didn't have to!
OMG, Kate's super-saving tips for dogs makes my head explode. I wonder if her parents bitched and moaned about how much it cost to raise her. Who the F%^& spends so much energy talking about the cost of feeding an animal? Why does she always get consumed with it? ONE boy needs glasses and she's pissy about it.
Let me tell you-- something so basic should be a given. It's food. It's essential. It should bring you joy to feed your dog and watch him love his meals. I know I do.
I have 3 dogs, , you bitch. They get served high quality food, along with my cooking (a bit too much, bad on me!). And guess what? If it's raining out, they get wet. It's what towels are made for.
I also find it rich that she's talking about being frugal with dogs, meanwhile, she buys Shoka a ball throwing machine, goes to PetCo/Pet Smart and throws a ton of crap into her cart willy nilly, not ONCE looking at price tags and says the dog gets groomed twice a month. Wow.
Oh, that and she wants you to buy a $2000 week with her on a boat.
(I'm telling you, living with her as a mother must be so damn confusing. I love you! You cost me money! l love you! You make my life harder!)
"Right up until Stevie came to your room and demanded "In your Neighborhood's" laptop. LOL! :)"
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If he came to my room and demanded my laptop, I'd put him in the bathroom and make him listen to the violent flushing of the toilet all night. You've never heard a toilet flush until you heard one on a cruise ship. In fact, my kids would count down before the flush - 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, Aim and Fire!
Handwritten notes would always be an option, to be transcribed later...!!!
Regarding Cruise:
Having been an impulsive young adult, and having raised 3 children that are now 27-30 years old, I have to say that some lessons have to be learned the hard way. When one of my kids made a financial mistake, I talked to them about the lessons learned--I always called these mistakes "tuition". The experience of being taken advantage of at an early age, taught them that the only one looking out for them was themselves. As a parent, it was my hope that hard lessons learned would prevent them from making a later, bigger mistake--ala Bernie Madoff, overpriced cruises, etc.
Fortunately, when I was a young adult, I didn't have access to credit cards, the way my kids do-- the banking industry has been targeting them for years. My kids are constantly getting pre-approved offers for credit cards. One of my son's friends was able to qualify for the purchase of a brand new car, with huge monthly payments, on a minimum wage salary. Since he 'knew' that he was a safe driver, he didn't take out collision insurance. I am sure that you all can guess how that ended! I can only imagine the kind of trouble I could have gotten myself into if I could have, on an impulse, followed my favorite bands around the world.
The Kate cruise will be a particularly bitter lesson because not only will the sheeple be out the money, possible saddled with debt and unable to afford other things --like college tuition -- they will have been betrayed by a role model and 'friend'. Just like Bernie Madoff's victims.
Oh--and by the way, I still have $100.00 for anyone that admin sanctions to go as an undercover agent of this blog!
Haha what a good sport Paula is. She laughed harder than I did at that. LOL.
So I just took a look at her pet tips blog on CC (only because I am a dog person and am the go-to person for all my friends when it comes to dog stuff), and she reveals nothing of interest. In fact, she mostly discredits what has been said here...like how Shoka is brought in even when the teensiest drops of rain fall...whatever.
In fact, she claims that Shoka, whom they got in 2008, is her TWO year old GSD...guess that must be Kate-math because in REAL math the dog would be 4, no?
It's very simple. If it's going to bother you every day how much dog food costs, and GOOD food and not the crap that's just rice is not the cheapest stuff around, then don't get a dog. Just don't get a dog. Spare the dog lovers the agony of watching someone who clearly doesn't even like dogs much less love them, own a dog. I saw a coupon for my dog's food once in two years, and I was looking diligently even on their web site. Oh well, that's part of having a dog.
The vast majority of the "coupons" require you to spend a minimum of 50 to 60 bucks and beyond to save a measly five bucks.
Here's a money saving tip for Kate-- Stop buying lavish cars!
Every. Single. Thing.... that Jon did and got harangued for, Kate has done and is still doing. Sports car? Check. Paid appearances in Vegas? Check. NYC night club drunken adventure? Check. Ridiculous clothes? Check.
I could go on and on and on.
I love Innova which for years you could only find in specialty dogs shops. We'd have to go out of our way to get it. Now FINALLY Petsmart and Petco have gotten on board with feeding dogs good stuff and you can easily get it on the internet and so on. I knew before getting a dog that was something I was prepared to do. And before then, when I was not in a position to do that, wouldn't you know it, I chose not to have a dog.
I haven't watched Dance Moms yet and I don't think I will based on what I saw on Anderson the other day. Exploiting kids seems to be the status quo of reality shows these days. Paging Paul Pedersen...
AA is really the worst. It's not so much the filming but how that dance teacher treats them and why those kids aren't pulled out of that class so fast (obviously, fame whore mothers).
I saw they were doing a meet and greet autograph session with the dance class featured at the studio. WTF! They are children. They shouldn't be made to sit there for autographs, they should be in school, or sports, or playing with friends. It's one thing for an adult to do a signing but KIDS??? Also that can't be good for a kids' ego, I've heard some of those kids are real divas at like 12 years old. Incredibly concerning that whole thing.
The fact that Kate is encouraging her Tweeties to spend money they not have just so she can make money for herself is another example of her lack of a moral compass. How can any normal person do this to another person. Kate doesn't know these peoples emotional or financial situation. A cruise is a lot of money. Most people save up for years to go on a cruise. By encouraging her fans with DO IT she may be sending them down the road to serious debt. All so Kate can make money.
A speaking of a moral compass, whenever Kate wants attention or is attacked her response is..I'm a mother of 8, I need money to feed my kids. Every time she's called out she always hides behind her kids. And the "attacker" then appears as the bad guy. After all mothers are thought of as nurturers (sp?), protectors of their children. To have a mother hide behind her child(ren) just seems unbelievable. And then here comes Kate. She has turned a mother's role on its end. So much so that in her world children protect the mother.
AA, IT'S really the worse. Dance Moms. Not you lol.
Coupons and dog food generally do not go together. Not if you're buying high end brands. But, there's good news. Generally you can get on a buying program as I have, and get a free case of food for every 12 you buy.
I buy 2 different types of canned and dry food (darn picky Bichon!) and last year, it just so happened that I was up for 2 free cases of canned food. I thought I won the lottery ;-)
If pet owners ever have a month they're really struggling, they can ask their vet if they have any food to spare. I have heard most vets will happily offer a bag of food. When people's animals pass away, they will often bring whatever food they had left to the vet. As long as the animal was free of illness and the food is good, it's perfectly safe to pay it forward. We did this with our cat and the vet donated it on. But I agree, you don't see coupons for high end dog food, like, ever. Purina is in the paper every Sunday and that's about it.
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Yes, Kate invokes motherhood like people invoke the holocaust vis a vis Godwin's law. Give her enough time, and she will bring it up. It's inevitable. Motherhood is not an automatic patina of respectability.
Motherhood is not an automatic patina of respectability.
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You mean there are not any mothers in jail? But surely whatever they did, they did for their children.
I want to know why she takes the dog to the vet and groomer twice a month?
My Newf goes to the groomer every three months and the vet once a year .. unless he gets an ear infection or something. And my dog is considered elderly. No way a young healthy German Shepherd goes to the vet or groomer that often ...
Unless those vet/grooming folks are grifting the grifter :)
Whew!
(no worries admin...I knew you were talking about dance moms)
I love the coupon that requires you to spend 80 bucks minimum to get the coupon.
My dog is small, they don't even make 80 buck bags of food for him, even Innova.
And if I bought that much dog food, 80 bucks worth, the poor little guy would be swimming in stale dog food for years. He literally picks at half a cup a day.
Thanks for the help Kate. Not!
I get coupons for the litter I use in my hedgehogs litter box. They come in the bag. You have to buy 10 bags and save all of the little coupons in order to get a free bag of litter. It takes about a year for me to get free litter for her. I keep them with the rest of my coupons. I cant find coupons for her food but thats ok. She is a small thing and I only buy food once every few months.
One thing Kate failed to talk about was the fact that you dont save any money buying online unless you get free shipping. Sometimes the item plus shipping costs more then just buying the item at the local store.
One thing Kate failed to talk about was the fact that you dont save any money buying online unless you get free shipping. Sometimes the item plus shipping costs more then just buying the item at the local store.
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Strange isn't it that the top blogger (or whatever her title is over at Coupon Cabin) fails to mention those important little facts. It just shows how incapable she is of doing any kind of research. I wonder how long until the folks at CC realize she's not an asset.
While reading the tweets from the sheeple wanting to go on this cruise to meet Kate, it made me think of several years ago a group of us middle aged fans got together to go see a group of "has beens" that we had idolized as youngsters. For this, I had to travel cross country to LA. I was so so so excited to meet one band member in particular who was so totally my idol! They knew we were coming, and when we arrived at the small venue where they were performing, we got to meet them.
UGH! I should have kept my fantasy and saved my money! I was so very disillusioned by the man standing before me. He was rude and arrogant and it completely destroyed my fantasy.
Wondering if this is what will happen to Kate's tweeties when they finally get the chance to have special time with her?
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One more...mattmull2010
@Kateplusmy8 booked my spot on the cruise - can not wait to ask questions about so many things!!!!!!
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@BartYasso @kateplusmy8 ugh please do not promote this woman!
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Is Kate suggesting buy dog food that's on sale? I can't switch dog food brands...gives both my dogs diarrhea. If you have to switch you're supposed to do it slowly; mix some new in with the old a little at a time. Can't do that if you're buying different food on sale.
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anger issues kate 62 -- I completely agree with you. The twins have been told and shown in every way possible since they were 3 1/2 that they are yesterday's news and that they take a back seat to the 6. In addition, Kate fosters favoritism and jealousy among the kids, by insisting on birth order always, by emphasizing that Cara is the "oldest" despite knowing that it upsets Mady when she does this, by blatantly favoring the girls over the boys. She's deliberately fostering sibling rivalry and setting these kids up for competition among themselves. In a way this may be smart on Kate's part. If she creates enough division among the kids, they won't all band together against her when they get older.
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readerlady,,,,you are spot-on.
I was trying to think back over time and I thought I heard the actual contract between Kate and TLC was suppose to stop at the end of this month. I have always wondered if TLC made some kind of a deal with her when they decided to stop filming.
I always had the feeling that they might have promised to pay for certain things until the actual contract ends such as Steve's salary and pay for the PR firm to help her try to get another job. I don't think they completely cut her off.
That may also explain the real estate change in eliminating the atty's name. Perhaps TLC was helping out in some way with the mortgage which is now ending. It just seems a coincidence that it happened this month.
Might also explain her desperation to get people for this cruise.
UGH! I should have kept my fantasy and saved my money! I was so very disillusioned by the man standing before me. He was rude and arrogant and it completely destroyed my fantasy.
Wondering if this is what will happen to Kate's tweeties when they finally get the chance to have special time with her?
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I don't think it will take long before Kate is snapping her fingers at Steve, snubbing one person to talk to another who is more her style,
going off by herself to a corner (or closet), looking bored, tired of smiling....
Hey! Is Jamie going? Now there's an adult who
might enjoy the trip! What about Carla?
135: I think mumbear, the Australian fan who met Kate at the zoo, already knows the disillusionment of meeting Kate. But it's kept pretty quiet among the fans. Notice they spend more time defending the concept of Kate than the reality of who she is and what she does.
The stand-out in the pet post, to me, is the fact that she named the dogs, not the kids. When was the last time you got a pet for the family and didn't allow the kids to name it?
Reading Resident, Your story reminds me of the years that I worked for a major airline (yikes, about 18 years ago...I'm getting old!). It was funny to compare the real celebrities with what I considered the "minor league" celebs. I almost always found that the biggest celebs were the nicest, while the minor leagues were so arrogant!
One of my favorite memories is the time that some pretty rough-looking characters came to my line to check in. I thought, from the looks of them, that they'd be difficult, but they were so polite and courteous. "Yes, ma'am", "No, ma'am", "Thank you very much". Then when they left for the gate, I turned around and the ticketing agent next to me was hyperventillating and could hardly speak. Finally he gasped out, "Green Day! That was Green Day!". I, of course, was clueless, but now when I hear their music, I still think of those nice young men with the crazy hair and ripped-up black clothes who went through my line and were just so nice and polite. Their mothers should be proud.
The stand-out in the pet post, to me, is the fact that she named the dogs, not the kids. When was the last time you got a pet for the family and didn't allow the kids to name it?
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I remember that during an episode. The kids were so disappointed they couldn't name the dogs. Kate made some face and said something about not wanting a dog named "fluffy" or something like that.
Hey! Is Jamie going? Now there's an adult who
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Jamie's been MIA since the RV debacle. I have a hard time believing that Kate would remain friends with Jamie after the comments she made. It cheesed me that Jamie would allow her kids to be filmed at all, let alone be filmed getting abused by Kate's kids.
How embarassing.
Shoka is "expensive" to feed...are you F------ kidding me! She has MILLIONS. I am POOR, and I feed two dogs, two cats, and two feral cats (and feed them well w/ the best food available) outside twice/day...in fact, a good deal of my weekly food budget goes to feeding my animals. I hate that BITCH.
Layla, I love hearing that about Green Day! Last year, we were blessed to see Billy Joe (lead singer) in American Idiot on Broadway (never saw my husband smile so big in my life) and he came out to sign autographs outside the stage door afterward. Staff of the theater said he did that every night. We sort of watched for a minute and took off. I was at a theater a couple weeks ago, waiting to get in and Hugh Jackman's show is across the street and he comes out before the show to sign autographs too. Maybe the energy pumps him up - you should have heard the squeals! Very gracious way to acknowledge the fans who have paid to be there.
Mim 141 - naming the dogs was addressed in the episode when they picked them out. The kids squeal with delight when Kate says they are going to get pets for Christmas. She rudely shuts down any suggestions for names and announces she has already picked monikers. I think later in the chair interview she explains that she could live with some childish name for the duration of the pet's life. She ridicules the names she thinks the kids might have chosen. I may have lost details -- this is from memory -- but, I clearly remember being appalled with her behavior at the time.
Also, with regard to Kate naming the dogs and not letting the kids do it, wasn't that also when they thanked their parents and she said, "You're not welcome" in that monotone of hers? For all the hoopla she makes about them thanking her and thanking her for keeping them alive, she treated them like crap on that day, and maybe others too. Sad.
Sorry, snow day here.
Could NOT live...sorry.
When our bulldog was a puppy the vet told us that if we wanted to shorten his life we should base his diet on whether or not we had a coupon for the food. If we wanted him around and healthy for a long time we'd base his diet on what was best for him. I've never seen coupons for his food.
Also in the puppy episode, didn't Kate make fun of the breeder and tell the kids they were not going to get any presents for Christmas?
My sibs and I had no imagination when it came to naming pets. We had a litany of literal names -- Brownie, Lassie, Yellow One, etc. But the winner was Old-Gray-Mother-Cat. Had to say that one fast..like just one word. Our parents may have laughed, but they never took over the task of selecting names for our many pets.
The puppy episode was like a "worst of" episode all in itself. Bad behavior on display.
PJ's Mama,
I love hearing that he's still a nice guy. Others who were such a joy to deal with were Toni Braxton and her sisters, Doug Williams (NFL), Bryan Adams, all the guys in Bon Jovi, and David Lee Roth. Oh, and the Baldwin brothers, although I have heard that Alec isn't quite so nice on flights now.
Who was the biggest pain? That's a toss-up between John Cafferty (and the Beaver Brown Band) and Lex Luger/The Narcissist (WWF Guy). Kate needs to pay attention, because if she acts like a b****, people will remember for decades (or longer) and will share the stories about her behavior long after she has forgotten.
Layla, she's not acting. She IS a B.
We have met quite a few celebs because of my husband's work, mostly musicians, and most are pretty nice. He hired The Cult last summer and they were all so nice - except for the young replacement guitarist. I felt like saying, "Dude, you haven't earned the right to be so pissy. Look around, these guys have been at it for decades, you should be on your knees thanking them for having you." He hired Cheap Trick and they were ALL awesome! Presidents of the United States of America - same thing. Met two guys from Heart last year - wonderful guys. Seems rare to have a yucky musician. But think about what reality TV breeds and thrives on: narcissism in people who have no talent and nothing to offer besides their behavior.
GrifterKate said: I think the thing with Kate that boils my blood is that she has been so used to grifting and relying on OTHERS to support her and the tups since Day One (over 7 years)- church, fans, sponsored freebies galore, TLC, book signings, $20 photos signed, that she has no ablility to function without the "grifter factor."
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You are absolutely right. From the very beginning, TLC made numerous high dollar improvements to the E-Town house. Provided J&K with every kind of service you could imagine (nannies, maids, landscaping, chef service) sent them on once in a lifetime trips, they probably paid for the new kitchen in the Konpound and did pay for the poolside redo and new slide. Those are the things we know about. There are surely many more.
When TLC asked Kate to do a solo show where she's put in uncomfortable situations, her reply should have been "where's the trash truck?" But no. As she has done for years to everyone she comes in contact with, she bit the hand that fed her. Despite how we feel about TLC, they were pretty damn good to her. They could see the writing on the wall and knew that "K+8 going on expensive vacation after expensive vacation" was going to tank. And it did. A show where she did mediocre and dirty jobs would have been a smash, I'm sure of it. She could have struck gold, but her snottyness and arrogance prevented her from getting past the pilot.
And here she is, right back to 2004 where she's again begging for handouts from people who have waaaaay less than she.
They were already in the throes of an impending divorce at that time. She seemed to know the breeder well and Jon not so much. That was the first time I can say I ever saw be as flirty as she can be as she will always be androgenous to me, I don't care how many say she is a hot momma.
I felt then like she was taking 2 because they were a good bloodline and would have been expensive but probably free for her. She must have really been impressed with the real Shoka because I thought it was a dumb name. But then again we let our kids name a pit bull puppy, and we ended up with this big pit bull named you guessed it, Fluffy.
I am laughing...in honor of all the Fluffy pets out there!
PJ's momma,
Maybe they're insecure because they aren't really anything special. My son is in "the business", but in a very minor way because we want to protect his privacy at all costs. He gets to meet lots of people. I have been shocked by how some will act, even in front of a child. Ahem, especially a certain woman interviewer on a hugely successful morning talk show. You know who you are, KLG.
But, like the rest of us, they have to get up in the morning and decide whether to be pleasant or b****y on any given day. The difference is, nobody is majorly affected if one of us is feeling a bit grumpy on any given day. For them, they could really crush someone who idolizes them and that disappointment doesn't go away easily. Especially when they don't have repeated exposure to that particular celeb. That first impression lingers. I think many of them have that figured out and they make it a point to be courteous as much as possible, to encourage the fans--the people who ultimately determine whether they'll be successful or not--to like them.
Kate seems determined to figuratively give the finger to all but her (very) few supporters. That's why she can't get that talk show she wants so badly. She's destroying her chances to get what she so desperately wants, and yet she just can't seem to help herself. And then she's even more frustrated...it's a vicious circle that she's trapped in.
I always dream about winning a lottery. I would go blog at the cruise for you if I did win in time altho I will probably never win :( If I was rich enough I could always take a decent cruise another time after suffering on hers. I would take the punishment for the rest of us.
Even if she pisses off a fan really bad, especially the twit ones, they are not going to say a word. It is not so much that they don't want to bad mouth Kate as they don't want to admit to us that they were wrong and they don't want to look like the idiots we know they are. If anything it will have to be an unheard of fan who opens up on the internet somewhere and tells all (with pictures and video hopefully).
Layla, you are absolutely right. It IS a choice. And first impressions DO linger, especially if that's their only exposure. That's why Kate's personality will ultimately be her downfall. She allowed that 'first impression' to be broadcast far and wide with no repercussions until she got cancelled. There's no going back now. If there was, she'd be trying to get her name/face out there with reputable charities (and not just keeping her half-naked Red Cross front and center on her blog). If she was a nice person, opportunities would be coming to her. But they're just not.
Granted, all the people we've met have had their glory days and are now just enjoying the residuals of their early success, but they do seem to appreciate it. Our friend is a music promoter (another reason we get to meet folks) - he can tell some funny stories but most people who have been in the business a long time are just genuinely nice to work with, according to him. Which is why, decades later, they are still booking gigs. Kate will not be able to say that, ever.
She created the vicious circle you described, quite accurately too, and she will have to live inside of it.
Now you have me so curious about KLG, LOL! I cannot figure out who that is. Oh well!
Nobody doesn't like Kathie Lee!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
wayward said...
Despite how we feel about TLC, they were pretty damn good to her. They could see the writing on the wall and knew that "K+8 going on expensive vacation after expensive vacation" was going to tank. And it did.
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The funny thing is, I saw on one fan site that the Sheeple think Kate is being very choosy about doing another show, and they think that "after what TLC did to her", she must have a long list of conditions that have to be met before she'll agree to another show. Oh, silly, silly Sheeple. She'll jump on anything--ANYTHING--to get herself back on TV. I think she became so difficult that TLC gave up on her in complete frustration. There were those episodes where they showed just how impossible she was to deal with (Alaska and the RV Episodes). C'mon, we could see from the very beginning that she was majorly p***ed about having to take an RV trip. She was, I'm sure, thinking that TLC should be renting them a $10,000 a beach house, not stuffing them in RVs to drive across the country. That was, obviously, just sooo beneath her. I laughed out loud at her huffing and puffing and making such a big deal out of putting the bags in the cargo area of the RV, then pretending she (boo-hoo) hurt her finger. And then she turned to the camera crew and told them that they need to quit acting like they're filming a TV show and get some work done here. (????!!!!) My jaw just dropped. They are a camera crew, and they WERE filming a TV show, but she just saw them as more people who should be waiting on her. That moment, more than any other I can think of, showed the world just who the real Kate was. Even people who are around to do their job are just there to be her servants, in her mind. And then when the kids were talking about having servants--well, we know where THAT came from, don't we?
What's going to happen when she runs out of money for servants to take care of the house for her? Is SHE going to lower herself to cleaning it? There are--what--six bathrooms in the house? That's a lot of toilets to scrub. And speaking as a mother with several sons, boys don't always have the best aim, so it's not the most pleasant job. I picture her curled in the fetal posotion on the bathroom floor, crying and wondering what happened to her life.
mim said..
Nobody doesn't like Kathie Lee!
Sorry, couldn't resist
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Naughty, naughty mim! You said The Name!
Wow, KLG? Man, that disappoints me so much! If true, she talks the talk really well. Fooled me ;-(
Okay, I will admit that someone pulled a fast one on Kathie Lee that day. She was given some information that was going to be presented in a "contest" format, and the person asking the questions switched the cards before starting, and that threw her off. I didn't realize what happened myself until after watching it a couple times (they sent a link of the segment to us after the show) and seeing what he did. But, that made it a fair contest (which she lost). She was NOT happy. We had to hide in the green room until she was gone.
Really? Wowee! For all the endless babble about her own kids back in the day, that sure is surprising. She was in Seattle during the run of her show and our hairstylist was her stylist while here and he LOVED her! I mean, he went on and on and on......
This is off topic, but I sent this to my friend who is struggling. Nothing has ever touched my heart the way this woman sings this beautiful song. If the entire thing didn't make me weep, 4:40 and on would. Not her humility at the end. A beautiful, beautiful moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NpxTWbovE
Sorry, NOTE her humility at the end. Yikes.
Why does Kate tweet nothing all day long when she's alone and when she's with the kids, she's tweeting from the car, from the dinner table, from the homework duty, etc? What a weird 'mother.'
Possible Truth Alert!! Khate said the dog was 2 years old, not 4, because that is probably how old the replacement dog is. Or it's how long it's been since Shoka 2 came to the Konpound.
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Admin said...This I agree with. I think some of those kids played TLC and Kate like a fiddle. Especially Mady.
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How so?
I am quite certain that anyone who signs up for the cruise will have to sign a confidentiality form when the time comes.
PJ's momma,
That clip was beautiful. I had never heard k.d. Lang sing, and it was a real treat. I got all choked up. But, then, I do that a lot. I still cry whe I watch Susan Boyle audition for Britain's Got Talent. Now, Susan is a good example of how to be enormously talented and famous and still be humble and human at the same time. Someone posted on here awhile back that Susan still lived on her old house, and when asked why she didn't buy a castle, she said it would be drafty. I just wanna hug her!
Layla, I watch it all the time. What she does at the end is very Buddhist and Thai, the low, extended bow with hands pressed together. kd Lang is a gay woman, Buddhist, and here she is singing a song written by a man born into a devout Jewish family which includes Old Testament accounts about David's adulterous ways. It doesn't get any more full circle and beautiful than that. You've never heard her at all? Constant Craving, even? She's amazing, you should check out more on youtube.
Reading Resident said... 135
While reading the tweets from the sheeple wanting to go on this cruise to meet Kate, it made me think of several years ago a group of us middle aged fans got together to go see a group of "has beens" that we had idolized as youngsters. For this, I had to travel cross country to LA. I was so so so excited to meet one band member in particular who was so totally my idol! They knew we were coming, and when we arrived at the small venue where they were performing, we got to meet them.
UGH! I should have kept my fantasy and saved my money! I was so very disillusioned by the man standing before me. He was rude and arrogant and it completely destroyed my fantasy.
Wondering if this is what will happen to Kate's tweeties when they finally get the chance to have special time with her?
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A similiar situation happened to me. Except my trip was to see a famous band from a few decades ago, at a small venue. The trip was expensive- and very spur of the moment. In retrospect, a rather silly decision.
I discovered that the subject of my adoration was secretly a fall down alcoholic who needed a "babysitter" to make sure he got to the gigs on time, and semi-coherent. Sadly, due to his various addictions, and bad life choices, he lost it all- fame & fortune, GONE.
He was in dire straits, unlike Katie Irene.
At the end of the evening, he propositioned all of us married ladies separately.
Reality kicked in full blast.
He was still an amazing guitar player- just very human. Not at all that demigod that I unfairly made him out to be in my little old head.
Big let down.
Expensive trip.
Never again.
As for the sheeple that plan to go on Katie Irene's fleecing cruise, all I will say is that
reality will kick them in the butt.
I'm going to be right here, drinking my ice tea & watching (reading) that fiasco unfold.
Reminds me of a song by the Korgis, "Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime".
Thank you for yet another rendition of Halleluja. Wrenching song...goes straight to your soul. My favorite version is Jeff Buckley. His raspy voice adds an extra dimension.
Dmasy, I have to choke back a sob around 4:40 when I watch her version. It's almost like an animal wailing! I'll have to check out Jeff Buckley too. Thanks for the suggestion!
Ohhhh PJ's momma, thank you for sharing that beautiful song-I LOVE KD Lang :o)
In return, I would like to share this song with you, and everyone here-
KD Lang's "Love Is Everything"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T19UODyJpVA
Enjoy :o)
Hi All, seems like not too much has changed since I last checked in, its been a while...I did read the Shoka article about saving money... head shake...nothing has changed....
In first paragraph she says...My 2 year old dog we got just over 3 years ago...
The dogs were named before we saw them, but then goes on to say how they got their names, and they are both names with special meaning to kate...so, which is it Kate??
And then the last which really irates me, which I why I need to take space form this twit....LIKE MY KIDS, Shoka is expensive to feed"..
Kate keep up the great job of shattering your kids confidence...
I discovered that the subject of my adoration was secretly a fall down alcoholic who needed a "babysitter" to make sure he got to the gigs on time, and semi-coherent. Sadly, due to his various addictions, and bad life choices, he lost it all- fame & fortune, GONE.
He was in dire straits, unlike Katie Irene.
At the end of the evening, he propositioned all of us married ladies separately.
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Pink Straight Jacket: I believe this happens far more than folks would like to admit...you put these people on a pedestal when in reality they are nothing more than mere humans. Better to admire from afar than have your bubble burst. Doubt that any of the cruiser fans would ever admit their disappointment though.
PJ's momma, I don't think so, but maybe I've heard her and didn't know who it was. She has a beautiful voice, though, I'm going to have to check out more of her songs. That deep bow at the end was so touching, such a beautiful way to cap off her performance.
After reading all the stories of people meeting their long-ago idols, I'd be afraid to go see mine! Back in the 80s, I was a total Duran Duran girl. John Taylor was my dream guy. I've seen recent pics, though, and he hasn't aged very gracefully. I've heard that he's not the nicest guy, either. Oh, well, I guess maybe we aren't supposed to see them at their worst. Ruins the fantasy. I'll just look up old videos on YouTube and remember him as he was.
Pink Straight Jacket, unbelievable! I just ordered a two-disc set from Amazon called Recollection, where she remastered some old songs, including a few of her own.
This duet with the late, great Roy Orbison is wonderful too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-EiKPrAOHA&feature=related
Sorry to have turned this into a kd Lang thread briefly, but it is nice to celebrate someone with immense talent who is so gracious too.
KD is not so liked around Saskatchewan. She was raised on a cattle farm and in a cattle community and then renounced beef. Not very thankful, that one.
I just had lunch with Oprah yesterday. She was lovely as always.
In first paragraph she says...My 2 year old dog we got just over 3 years ago...
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Come now, everyone KNOWS those dogs only began living the moment they saw Her Greatness, Kate.
PJ Momma...thank you. If you do look for Jeff Buckley on YouTube make sure you hear the song from the album. (I believe JB committed suicide long before there was a YouTube.) It is the "deeper" version. West Wing was my favorite, sit still and watch TV show. In one of the later seasons during a scene where a semi-regular is shot and killed Hallelujah was the background with no other dialogue. I just had to hear the entire song and learn more about it. I am never surprised how powerful of an effect it has on others.
Thank you for your link. I believe that the singers who embrace this song fill the lyrics with their own pain and disappointment. Then we listeners can weep with understanding.
So, what's the latest on the "who's going on the cruise" list?
So far, as far as I can tell, there are 5 "definites":
1. Nickie Chapman
2. Gypsi
3. Matt Mull
4. CJwhodunnit (and family?)
5. Peggy Scott
Then under "maybe", there's milo and her hubby, and under the "may not even exist" list is Minny. (I'm still scratching my head over that one).
Maybe a small group is the best thing for this cruise. Just enough people to get Kate a free trip, but a small enough group that she can spend on-on-one time with them all. Sure, she won't make loads of money like she's hoping to do, but maybe this way they won't all be disappointed by the lack of time spent with her. Or they could end up disappointed that they do have to spend time with her. Can't wait to see how this all shakes out.
Friends of mine are close friends with Cheap Trick. They said the same thing, they are awesome guys. When that stage collapsed at their show everyone's hearts were in their throats over here.
I am not surprised that many musicians in REAL bands, as in not the Britney's, are down to earth.
Think about it, almost all bands have talent, almost all of them had to scrape themselves up to the top from the garage. Almost all of them have to write their own music, play their own instruments, and come up with their own material. People who are shallow and untalented are not likely to be able to stick with that lifestyle until they hit it big.
Bands are unlike celebrity, where sometimes you just fall into it because you have a pretty face, or you know someone, or you do something outlandish, or have a reality show randomly thrown at you because you had eight kids.
Rubyred said... 183
In first paragraph she says...My 2 year old dog we got just over 3 years ago...
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?????Her dog is TWO years old...and she got him just over THREE years ago?????
How did she manage to "get" him before he even existed?
My dog wears a sweater when it's cold and doesn't wear anything when it's not. I find Kate's advice not to be dog outfits because it's a waste of money pretty ignorant. Not everyone who buys a sweater for their dog is doing it because they look cute and goofy in little outfits. Some dogs NEED a sweater to keep warm in the colder months. They will shiver and be uncomfortable if you don't. The real frail dogs like teacup chihuahuas and terriers can easily succumb to overexposure.
Of course it's not necessary to buy an entire wardrobe, but one or two sweaters are something you need to invest in if you have a dog like that. Okay, he DOES look adorable in his sweater, but that's not the reason I bought it.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 189
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I'm in agreeance! My smallest dog wears sweaters in winter and all 3 of my dogs have sweaters/shirts that they don right after getting their flea and tick medicine applied.
They all look adorable, but the little guy does have many more clothing choices. You should see him in his pajamas.
No, she isn't suggesting buy whatever dog food is on sale, thank goodness. She actually says it could make them sick. I assume the intern at CC added that disclaimer in.
She does however claim she gets coupons for his food. If that's true, he's eating crap food. High quality foods RARELY give out coupons.
Maybe a small group is the best thing for this cruise. Just enough people to get Kate a free trip, but a small enough group that she can spend on-on-one time with them all.
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But can you imagine how embarrassing this would be for her to have only a dozen or so fans show up? How could she live that down? In that case, I'd cancel rather than to have egg (or sheeple poop) all over my face.
Aw Tucker. When I put my dog's sweater on in the morning on cooler days, he sits there and lifts up his little paws and puts them in the sleeves like a little kid. It's adorable.
He seems happiest when he's in a nice cozy sweater cuddled UNDER a blanket between us. These guys love to be toasty warm.
I'm not sure why people are upset that someone makes the lifestyle choice not to eat beef and feels they are obligated not to do that just because they grew up in cattle country. There are good reasons not to eat beef, for health reasons and questionable cattle raising/slaughtering practices.
My ancestors for generations were dairy farmers and I grew up surrounded by dairy farms, but I'm not offended if someone decides not to eat/drink dairy for whatever their reasons are.
Layla said... 188
Rubyred said... 183
In first paragraph she says...My 2 year old dog we got just over 3 years ago...
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?????Her dog is TWO years old...and she got him just over THREE years ago?????
How did she manage to "get" him before he even existed?
January 16, 2012 4:40 PM
She's such a dolt.
he’s our two year old German Shepherd. We got him and his sister, Nala, in December of 2008
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Hahaha. Reminds me of when my narcissist said you made 12 dollars selling lemonade so you each get four dollars. Except, there were four kids. Good thing the nanny distributed the proceeds.
I'm with whoever said it first. Shoka didn't really "live" until Jon was out of the picture and he was just with Kate.
I should clarify: Kate did not say my 2 year old dog I got 3 years ago. I did paraphrase, but she said our 2 year old dog we got in December 2008 when they were 8 weeks old.... btw..you shouldn't take puppies from their momma's before 16 weeks, and,
its Alberta's Ranching Industry , and KD Lang's home province, that disowned her after her " Meat Stinks" campaign...not Saskatchewan.
Kate's a real winner.. I am hoping the kids hit their teens and ask to live with dad...or to go there every weekend..
Well, first off, you're not famous, Admin. Secondly, KD did commercial ads to renounce beef. Had she just made her choice quietly, I'm sure her community would not have felt as betrayed. KD asked people to NOT purchase beef at the height of her fame.
It's not about ME being famous, it's about someone in your community being famous and speaking out about an industry in your community. I'm guessing growing up around the cattle industry gave her a unique perspective on it. She probably thought that gave her credibility to renounce beef.
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