She says Jon is working now, and says that things are more "peaceful" now, not because of anything she changed of course, but because Jon is "happier" with himself.
Funny, Kate claims the kids are "now okay" going to Jon's. Because we remember this downright disturbing video from August 2010 when the kids were returned to Kate screaming and crying for their daddy. It looks like they were not okay at all with leaving Jon, actually, Kate! Maybe she's confused, maybe she means they are now okay going back to her?
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Layla 179: . But, if Jon were working a decent job, and she were, too,
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Katie WORK? That's a joke, right?
Only we mediocre people work. Some (hopefully most) of us actually like our jobs and get satisfaction from them, as mediocre as that seems to Kate.
(my snark is aimed at Kate, not Layla).
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Don't worry, Rhymes, I have a sense of humor! I will admit, I was thinking "When hell freezes over" when I typed that about Kate getting a job. Tee-hee
Just a thought: I wonder how the "morning runs" portion of Kate's cruise is going to jive with the non-sheeple, paying passengers on that cruise?
I mean, how can they stop the other paying passengers from walking on the upper deck whenever they want?
P.S. Funny, how those non-sheeple passengers will be experiencing the same trip, but only for less money... [snicker]
@fidosmommy, well now I feel thoroughly uneducated! I got nothing to show my college education...sigh. No, I just go to pay closer attention to when people shorten words. Duh!
Well, Marie, don't worry, at least you don't need to be 'cultured' like Kate does her kids! LOL.
Right, what is to stop any other runner from just running behind Kate? But people are expected to pay extra for this?
Will these people wake up?
Hey Marie, sometimes college educations aren't enough to keep up with the blogosphere and Twitterland. Stay tuned. You and I will be learning lots more, I'm sure.
Kate to Captain: Hey! I want to run. All these people are in my way.
Captain: I'm sorry, ma'am, but they're just strolling around the deck on a "georgous" day.
Kate: Why can't they all get on those little rubber boats and take a ride while I
run. (flips hands to shoo away the image of people.)
Captain: They have paid to enjoy this ship.
Kate: They didn't pay to be anywhere near me. I have to run. See, my hair's tied up just so and my iPod cord is wrapped around my fingers just so. I am ready to run. Now. Now get them off my boat!
There was a clip I saw a while ago, Kate took the kids to the movies--told them what they couldn't have--caramel vs. cheese popcorn. But at the end of the movie, they all left, just the 9 of them. Nobody else seemed to go in or come out of this film. I found it odd then and I still do.
Is that what Kate thinks that life will be like just because she has 8 kids? I'm sorry until she's Queen of England, I don't see anyone shutting down a ship track so she can "run." or shut down anymore stores either. Even the Queen has been known to take public transportation.
Get over yourself! Other people will be around you even if you don't want them to be for the rest of your life! I'm sorry, Kate, you didn't get the message as a child: Life isn't always fair.
Kate: They didn't pay to be anywhere near me. I have to run. See, my hair's tied up just so and my iPod cord is wrapped around my fingers just so. I am ready to run. Now. Now get them off my boat!
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..."and my nails are painted pink and black to match my running outfit."
Regarding the cruise runs, I've been on two cruises and the only outdoor running they allowed was on designated decks - UPPER decks far above the pool and everything else. They didn't allow running on the main outdoor areas because there are cabins there and it would be noisy for those passengers in those cabins. Where are these supposed runs with Kate? Side by side treadmills? That's where I did all mine, because it was easiest and air conditioned!
Marie 200 -
There are SO MANY acronyms in all fields that it is a matter of familiarity with the subject matter -
not to worry. My S.O. (significant other) is an electrical engineer - we sometimes speak different languages. :)
How many think that this cruise will ever come to be? This Miss Agent Cindy person sounds like she is wet behind the ears, or just doesn't want to answer questions about what is included in the price, how these shore excursions are going to be handled, and so forth. I talked to one of the travel reps and she was very evasive.
They are so desperate to get sheeple to sign up that they had to add the "runs with Kate" incentive, probably never figuring out how they are going to handle that. It sounds good on the highlights list on their page, but in reality, it would be impossible to pull it off. Anyone can run on deck in the morning, and unless Steve runs right by her side and carries a prodding stick to keep everyone else away, this is not going to be a private run-with-Kate best friends forever snuggle time.
Pink @ 199 said: Just a thought: I wonder how the "morning runs" portion of Kate's cruise is going to jive with the non-sheeple, paying passengers on that cruise?
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I've been on the Allure. There is a running and walking track, and if memory serves me, it's on the promenade deck. I only used it once (for walking!). It was so crowded in the morning, that there is no way that other cruisers are going to be kept away from Kate. I'd love to watch her try.
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I agree. It gives the kids a false sense of the world & their place in it...and Kate would freak out if people were there who recognized them. Can't have it both ways, baby.
I recall the Tumble Bus, Gymboree Class, Striderite Shoes, Austin's, gymnastic clothes store, gym ( I think), NYC bus, Jon's gym, Thomas Train, other sites, special boxes for the sports events and the Sesame Show etc etc etc.
Tweet@156 and the Nickie thing...
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@Kateplusmy8 @r3boz @CindyCardella I'm going 2 try and talk Rhonda into going!! :)
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I knew it! She's trying to get her new texting friend, the nurse, to go. Maybe if she offered to pay her way, like she's offered to fund the CA trip for her other tweeties, she'd have better luck in gathering more of the flock to take the plunge...
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Regarding the cruise runs, I've been on two cruises and the only outdoor running they allowed was on designated decks - UPPER decks far above the pool and everything else. They didn't allow running on the main outdoor areas because there are cabins there and it would be noisy for those passengers in those cabins. Where are these supposed runs with Kate? Side by side treadmills? That's where I did all mine, because it was easiest and air conditioned
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I ran everyday (in the wee hours) on their treadmills. Then after breakfast, we walked a bunch of laps around the upper deck, and once more after dinner.
As a matter of fact, the upper deck area was constantly in use throughout the day, and evening. Either by passengers walking the track, or by passengers soaking in the sun on the lounge chairs.
Kate's going to go INSANE on this trip.
I don't care how big the ship is, you're going to feel like you are constantly surrounded by people. Kate will hate that. You can't get personal space because there is none.
That's one thing I hated the most about the cruise I went on--I felt like there was absolutely nowhere I could go for some peace and quiet. I know what I need to feel calm and relaxed, and it's not huge crowds of people. Cruising isn't for me, and judging by how Kate has reacted to crowds herself, it is not going to be for her either. Has she ever even been on a cruise? I can't imagine someone with her personality would like it one bit.
RT @JulsRilea @Kateplusmy8 You motivate all ages Kate..definitely need ur own exercise show. WOULD LOVE2 MOTIVATE ON BIGGER SCALE LIKE SHOW! 4 minutes ago
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Will she just stop? What part about "you're done" doesn't she understand?
And you know what, instead of waiting for someone to plop a show in your lap, why don't you sit down and write a pilot for some sort of talk/exercise/health show and make some test videos of it and go pitch it to the networks? Because this is what lots of celebs do when they really want something.
Oh wait that would require 1.thinking and 2. work.
Kate is busy tweeting...
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@rfdfd just wore my mother runner shirt to run today for first time :) can't wait to see my article in @runnersworld
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What a snot! MY article!
@NickieC3 @r3boz @CindyCardella ohhhh please do! Our am runs will be SO fun!
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Would someone please ask Cindy Cardella, the desperate cruise expert, how those "so fun" morning runs will be kept private? How many runs? Every day? Just one? Let's find how exactly what is included in this "package."
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Pink @ 199 said: Just a thought: I wonder how the "morning runs" portion of Kate's cruise is going to jive with the non-sheeple, paying passengers on that cruise?
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I've been on the Allure. There is a running and walking track, and if memory serves me, it's on the promenade deck. I only used it once (for walking!). It was so crowded in the morning, that there is no way that other cruisers are going to be kept away from Kate. I'd love to watch her try.
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I can't wait to hear about the smack downs that are going to happen when Skeevy tells passengers to leave the promenade deck for Kate and her sheeple...or to vacate the exercise room so that Katie Irene can use the machines...
or how many negative responses they'll get from the passengers being asked to sign confidentiality agreements...
Kate won't have a chance to breathe.
This is going to be good ;o)
Haha, Kate forgot to include any or all networks in her retweet when she says she wants her own fitness show. Hahahahaha....
And sorry, you can't have a fitness show if all you do is run. You have to keep up with and be able to do all the latest fitness crazes such as kettle bell, Zumba, Bosu ball, Cross-fit, spin, etc. There are no 'running' shows. In fact, are there are any 'fitness' show? Maybe there are, but beyond infomercials, I don't know of any. Lots of shows selling stuff, yes, but fitness shows? Correct me if I'm wrong.
It also helps, if you have a fitness show, to have a basic understand of the basics of fitness. Like carb loading. Not just show up the day before the marathon and be educated then what you should be eating by shocked and concerned people you bump into there.
PJ,s Momma says:
There are no 'running' shows. In fact, are there are any 'fitness' show? Maybe there are, but beyond infomercials, I don't know of any. Lots of shows selling stuff, yes, but fitness shows? Correct me if I'm wrong.
On the Fitness channel they do have Gilad's Bodies in Motion. I am not sure what else is on there I just like him. He always motivates you and makes you think he is talking to you. Can't picture Kate motivating anyone.
Correct, Admin. I meant to mention that, but posted before I typed it out. Fitness encompasses many things: nutrition, restfulness, training, full-body conditioning, proper alignment, RESTING, etc. Not just 'put on some good running shoes and go!' which is what she's told a few people. Well, excuse me but WRONG. You can injure yourself wearing the wrong shoes. On a small scale, you can lose toenails (which is actually a relief when they fall off) or bigger scale, injure tendons, ligaments, and joints. Her advice and recipes and just everything she's advised so far are all CRAP.
Carezee, is it like an exercise show, where you exercise along with them? I guess I have seen some of those. But Kate only runs. And she probably thinks people want to tune in to watch her trudge along.
Pink said... Kate won't have a chance to breathe.
This is going to be good ;o)
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Pink, should we go and watch this? I wonder if Steve will be allowed to ride his scooter on deck? How will he keep up?
I'd rather watch paint dry than Kate run because chances are the paint will dry faster than Kate could move.
There's another Cruise ship death in the news, a guy falls overboard, possibly jumped. Craziness.
This sure won't help sale any tickets.
Kate is blowing this running thing all out of proportion right now because it's feeding her narcissistic supply for the time being. She thinks she's a 'runner' because she jogs occasionally just like she thought she could write a cookbook because she cooks occasionally.
She doesn't dedicate herself to anything for long if it doesn't get her the attention she needs. Look at how she said she was going to win DWTS until she found out it wasn't as easy as wishing on a star. And the minute running gets boring or there's work involved she'll quit and go on to the next fad.
PJ'S Momma. Yes it is an exercise show you work along with. It is a half hour show. I have many of his DVD's too. He is really good. Maybe Kate could do a show where the scenery is moving behind her and she pretends to run. Wouldn't that be so much fun!!!!! You could run with her everyday and she would keep you so motivated!!!!!! She could have scenery from different parts of the country or better yet the world!!!!! We could call it Kate takes the world by storm!!!!!! How about that wouldn't you turn in everyday to see where you are running next? LOL
Great idea, Carezee! Except kHate would require them to send her to all the exotic places to run. Having a green screen behind her is just too mediocre!
That's one thing I hated the most about the cruise I went on--I felt like there was absolutely nowhere I could go for some peace and quiet. I know what I need to feel calm and relaxed, and it's not huge crowds of people.
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You should give Holland America a chance. It's the geriatric cruise line. I think that's why my kids love it. Cruisers are in bed by 9 or 10 p.m., pool deck is deserted, but if you want things to do, you can find something - shows, movies, bingo, lounges, entertainment. During the day, the cruisers take afternoon naps, so there are no crowds in the pool. Plus, the ships are small, about 1,400 passengers...just big enough for what you need, but small enough for excellent service. I think that cruise ships are getting much too large, and safety is a concern. It was pure luck that there weren't more deaths on the Costa - especially since it was every man for himself.
I won't cruise again, though Holland America does sound like a better option than most. I am unable to find information about how they treat their employees which is a major ethical concern for me as far as cruises go.
I also get severe vertigo that lasted for six weeks after that even the nicest cruise line couldn't cure. Never again. Apparently this happens to some people and for some never goes away, yikes!
http://www.cruisemates.com/forum/health-sea/296551-post-cruise-dizziness.html
It's called Mal de Debarquement. It's not just "in your head." It's a real diagnosis.
Yet another thing they don't warn you about in the fine print. You could be dizzy for weeks or months and it's really not THAT uncommon.
Oh My Gosh! People, People! Everyone stop what you are doing, the Great Kate Gosselin has an ANNOUNCEMENT!! The poor sheeple just will never know what to do with themselves is she does not inform her flock that the shepherd won't be there to entertain them tonight! Oh the horror! I can't look...somebody tell me when Kate Gosselin will be back on Twitter! I can't contain my excitement!! Say it isn't so! I have to go at least 12 or more hours without her telling me what brilliant "dream" or want she has next! Oh, I'll just die!!
(Note: this is completely a snark)
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@gypsi001 all excursions are included in your price. Not sure what charity yet. Waiting to hear from Kate on that.
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That's not what the Alice Travel page says: "Let's explore! Shore excursion with Kate"
Shore excursion. Singular. Cindy says ALL excursions. It sounds like the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Where are the shore excursions? Even though they will only be in two ports, there are several excursions from which to choose (at a price). The private island (Haiti) is free, but there are often costs involved on private islands as well. Is that included?
Something just isn't right with this thing. Why not disclose everything?
Admin - sorry about your vertigo. I had it for about a day after our last cruise and never had it before. For me, it felt like I was "rocking" on the ship even though I was on land. I remember getting into the shower and holding on because it felt like I was still on the ship. It's not a pleasant feeling, so I can't imagine how nasty it must be to have it for any length of time.
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I won't cruise again, though Holland America does sound like a better option than most. I am unable to find information about how they treat their employees which is a major ethical concern for me as far as cruises go.
I also get severe vertigo that lasted for six weeks after that even the nicest cruise line couldn't cure. Never again. Apparently this happens to some people and for some never goes away, yikes!
http://www.cruisemates.com/forum/health-sea/296551-post-cruise-dizziness.html
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I am in the Navy and have spent 8 months at sea, and have known many, many people who have spent months and months at sea and have never heard of this! I wonder how this is addressed in the Navy? I know we do sometimes have a problem getting our 'land legs' back, I wonder if that is it? Very interesting.
Butterfly - yes, it's real, and some call it getting land legs back. If you read some of those comments on the link that admin posted, one person still has it after two years. I can't imagine how annoying that would be.
It feels like your house is moving, but it's not a violent rock, it's just not stable. I remember having to hold on when I was got into bed. For me it was just a subtle enough swaying that it was kind of funny (I wouldn't have wanted to try to walk a straight line if I were stopped for a traffic check), but I could see that some people could get severe cases. I wouldn't cruise either if that happened to me.
You probably don't see it in the Navy because anyone who realizes they have that would drop out right away.
The scariest part of it was not knowing how long it would last. Mine didn't feel like the house was moving, it felt rather like I was on a gently rocking boat. I wasn't stumbling, but who wants to feel like you are on a boat when you are on dry land? And oddly, it was worse when I lay down.
The scariest part wasn't what I was feeling, but how long it would last. Just as I was about to go see a specialist in LA it went away. People have had to quit their jobs over this. I also get it after being on airplanes too, but luckily it only seems to last about a day. I have also heard that if you have it, you should avoid situations that bring it on because it could get worse each time.
Out And About In Berks County PA said... 35
Oh yes! I remember that feeling. After 8 months at sea it took me a good couple weeks to get land legs back. That's funny, we don't have the option to not go back out though.
You learn something new everyday. When I go back to work next week, I am so asking if anyone ever went to the doc about it.
I WANT A TALK SHOW... WAAAAAHHHH! GIVE MY *MY* TALK SHOW...NOW!!! WAAAAAAAAHHHH!! I *DESERVE* A TALK SHOW! WAAAHHHHHHH! Sound familiar? Hmm... Wonder who that could POSSIBLY be?
LOL, you dont drop out of the military, medical seps are typically a long, long drawn out process and members are very vocal. We love to complain to each other about how we are being treated :)
Kate didnt give her tweeties permission to tweet amongst themselves tonight- what will the sheeple do? to tweet or not to tweet?
ANNOUNCEMENT (thanks, Kate): Because cruising has sort of become the McDonalds of vacations now opening it to thousands more people than ever before, a lot more people are popping up.
It's not because it's increasing or something, it's just because people didn't cruise that much until the past few decades so they wouldn't know if this was a problem if they never cruised.
Coupled with some of my ethical problems of cruises, I am SCARED of them because of my inner ear issue I had last time.
Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic, that's exactly what I hear. Why doesn't this lazy ass WRITE A PILOT and PITCH IT? God, who does she think she is? Even Brad Pitt has to pitch things. By the way, your name makes me laugh even to this day. Yours and Flight oF the Kiwi gives me the giggles Anderson Cooper style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MumI6KovUk
Then i don't know why you haven't heard about it Butterfly. It's all over the internet. Maybe the tough military guys think this is a wussy thing and don't complain about it.
According to twitter, Kate's not sure she can do the Pittsburgh marathon because it's too hilly? She doesn't want to do it because it's not glamorous enough and it's too close to home.
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Rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic, that's exactly what I hear. Why doesn't this lazy ass WRITE A PILOT and PITCH IT? God, who does she think she is? Even Brad Pitt has to pitch things. By the way, your name makes me laugh even to this day. Yours and Flight oF the Kiwi gives me the giggles Anderson Cooper style.
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Didn't Kate do that when her tups were born? Didn't she make tapes and send them out? Maybe she is doing that now but no one has responded.
I may be way off here, but I am just wondering if Kate's interviews that aren't supposed to be aired for awhile have anything to do with J& E's break up.
On another note, here is a listing of activities in Branson, Missouri for 2012. Just tab over to each month. Looks like a Family Fun Run and a few other things that may hold her interest (wine tasting:).
http://www.explorebranson.com/calendar/
I think they need to raise a specific amount of money in order for the cruse to go forward. The Kate Gosselin Cruse webpage use to have the price for interior rooms which are far less expensive. Now, you have to call to get the price. The only reason I can see for doing that is to try and keep people from booking those rooms.
I think Kate went for the most expensive cruse package she could find. She cant do a mediocre 3 or 4 day cruse. She also cant reduce the price of the cruse because she would miss out on getting paid. She once told her sheeple that she has no control over the cost. She has control over how much she charges people to "hang out" with her. She is so full of shit.
Has anyone read the Tweets tonight? I guess that nothing should shock me anymore, but the recent ones are just leaving me with my head shaking and my mouth open. I am not naive. I know that people can be very cruel to one another, but what could make someone tweet such horrible things to another person? I mean, these are adults - they have feelings, too, and to read some of the mud slinging back and forth just makes me wonder what has happened in their lives that would cause such viciousness. It's like they never got past the middle school bullying stage, only this is worse. They should know better. To think that these people are parents and have raised, or are raising children is just unbelievable.
One of the sheeple's grandfather died, or so she said. Two the regulars there, one who posted here awhile back, have made the most disgusting comments - where is your grandfather planted...is he under a bush...will he be groundcover...did you tell your children their grandfather is planted...is he buried...has he started to smell yet....I'll pull out your buck teeth with a pliers and stick it in your eyes...have to pi$$, should I water grandpa's grave, and on and on and on...
This is coming from haters. Threats and cruel verbal abuse. Do they drunk tweet? That's the only reason I can think of.
I don't know too much about Twitter, but can Kate see this? You know, if she is aware of the despicable battleground that this has beoome, she should read both the sheeple and the haters the riot act. She needs to tell both sides to stop it, or the fans get no acknowledgement from her. No more tweetie parties - she should cut off both sides until this stops, and if it doesn't, she should close her account. That's the only way to end it.
I don't think anyone here approves of what is going on there. The bullying between haters and fans back and forth is so disgustingly vile I completely avoid it, and I don't really think it's worth repeating here. We don't approve of it, and there's not much we can do beyond that.
One of the things I hate about Twitter is it's so incredibly unregulated. There is essentially nothing you can do about things like this.
I guess my question is, can Kate see this if she has them blocked, as she says she does? If she knows that this is going on and keeps her account open, then what does that say about her?
There is essentially nothing you can do about things like this.
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Sure there is. Don't participate or read it. Pretty simple. There are no victims there. These people choose to actively participate. If they didn't like it, they would stop tweeting.
There is essentially nothing you can do about things like this.
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Sure there is. Don't participate or read it. Pretty simple. There are no victims there. These people choose to actively participate. If they didn't like it, they would stop tweeting.
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Not participating and not reading it hasn't stopped it, which is what I meant by there is essentially nothing we can do. To stop it. Can we ignore it and not participate, of course, and my sense is most do. I don't think that just because you tweet means you have to get harassed and the only solution is get off twitter. People should be able to tweet without being bullied just like they should be able to do everything else in their life without being bullied. Since I don't read any of that garbage, I can't speak for who is really responsible, but my understand is it happens on both sides. It's also my understanding this bizarre group is not representative of most people on twitter. But since they are the most outrageous, they get a lot of attention. I think we should not even bring it up here, frankly.
That's basically what I just posted. Avoid it. Don't participate. Don't discuss it here either as you are then guilty of reading their rubbish. But thanx for re-stating it.
Although I hold Kate in very low regard, I don't do Twitter and am not about to attack fans on Twitter, especially to the degree some have gone to, just for the sake of arguing/putting down fans.
Simply makes no sense, since it makes the Twitters doing this, look as bad as or worse than Kate. Facts/Opinions can be stated without making it so personal and ugly. JMO.
My above comment is based on what I have read on this board, and it seems some very ugly Twittering is going on. Done with this topic.
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I guess my question is, can Kate see this if she has them blocked, as she says she does? If she knows that this is going on and keeps her account open, then what does that say about her?
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I don't tweet, but my understanding is that Kate CAN see it. Kate blocks the haters, but the haters include a non-blocked person in their tweet which makes the tweet visible to Kate. And the fans (who aren't blocked) also typically include Kate's name. So Kate is well aware this war is going on.
When Kate does react, it's usually to egg on the fans or berate the haters, so she's not an innocent party. She's never said, "STOP this. Don't engage the haters!" or "If you have a problem, take it up with ME, not my fans."
When Kate says she can't "see" the haters, I believe she's speaking in the sense that she's impervious to them or ignores them--that they don't penetrate her "positive" armor. However, she would have us believe the haters' tweets don't show up on her feed at all, which isn't true. (Surprise! A lie from Kate.)
Agreed that the tweet war is disgraceful on all sides.
I'm sorry, but the mental image I got when I read... "the morning runs with Kate"...
Bad Brain! Though it pretty much sums things up!
I just read some of those tweets from last night. Although I rarely delve into the haters' tweets, these did seem worse than usual--particularly reprehensible, nasty, and horrible. That behavior would not be tolerated here.
Anyone have a thought about why Kate allows this to continue on her Twitter account? Having her name associated with such garbage seems to be counterproductive to what she claims to want (career). Anyone can find this trashy twitter account with a simple search on the web. I continue to believe that by allowing this twitter account to stay open, she's risking tragedy to occur one day, directly linked to her name which is about all she has left to market anymore. She could at least make it private, but stubbornly refuses to. I think she enjoys the viciousness and bullying that goes on.
I am very concerned about the breakup between Jon and Ellen for a variety of reasons. The first reason is because of the impact it will have on the kids. It's just another loved one leaving their lives. From what I have read, she wasn't just a casual girl friend, they were planning a future together.
I realize Ellen is young, but she appeared to be very mature for her age. Jon on the other hand has a lot of baggage. To have a ready-made family of 8, child support and a crazy and vindictive ex-wife is a lot for anyone to assume.
If this a decision that Jon and Ellen made freely, I understand. The media attention would get old for anyone that just wants to live a private life. The issue that concerns me is what role did Kate and/or her sheeple play in this breakup? If their bullying and harassment played a major role in this decision, it is beyond sad. Based on the fact that the sheeple have tried to get non fans fired from their jobs, it stands to reason that they could make Jon and Ellen's lives miserable. No one could handle this type of abuse long term. Additionally, if this is the case, it will just repeat itself. Am I looney tunes or does anyone else here think the same way? Jon has requested privacy and I respect that, but the pain that has been suffered here has to be unbelievable. Jon deserves happiness and those children have been through way too much! Where does it end?
If I'm out of line to discuss this, I apologize, but it has been weighing on my mind and have no other way to vent.
Anyone have a thought about why Kate allows this to continue on her Twitter account? Having her name associated with such garbage seems to be counterproductive to what she claims to want (career). Anyone can find this trashy twitter account with a simple search on the web.
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Kate is very immature. It's obvious. When any other normal celeb would put a firm stop to it, she is 12 and gets off on seeing this ridiculous drama.
I just read her Twitter for the helluvit...she managed to cover a lot besides her ANNOUNCEMENT- choose happiness ( again) , Shoka was brought IN, cruise talk, running talk, sheeple appeasement etc. If twitter didn't exist she'd be gone !
Oh, and yes, there are many fitness shows on the Fitness Channel you can exercise along to, shown at different levels, with or without weights etc. No need to cruise with Kate(or even join a gym) to get started.
..oh and I forgot...Kate despises misspelled word in 'real life' Ha!
I agree that there has been some nasty tweets recently. After the cruise it will be interesting to see if Kate maintains her Twitter to the same degree.
Yes, that's the conclusion I've come to as well, Admin. She obviously gets off on it somehow. Like a bad child, she'll take whatever attention she can get, regardless of how destructive. I wonder if she realizes her kids might well see some of this crap - and sooner rather than later as the two girls are getting to that pre-teen age. I know she thinks she controls their access to the internet, etc. but hasn't every mother thought the same thing, only to find out that our "tweens" can be very resourceful!
Kate is so immature she lets it color good judgement. As others have pointed out, something tragic could happen and she'll be associated with it. Does she think about this? No. There is a responsibility when you run a busy twitter account, or a web site, or anything like that. I think about things carefully when it comes to this site. We're not immune from anything bad that might happen just because we're all just faceless names on the internet and we have to be responsible (and for the most part, are).
Besides my obvious moral objection to what goes on over there, another reason that I said awhile back I wouldn't tolerate anyone here who participated is because I don't want this site associated with that--if something did happen, we obviously don't want to be involved. This is for my protection and all of yours. It's just want adults DO when it comes to stuff like this. It's just another example of how incredibly juvenile Kate is--it's not even really funny, it's pathetic.
I think Kate thrives on the tweet war between fans and non-fans. She loves that her fans step up to defend her honor. It feeds her ego. She doesn't care what people say about her, she just feels so thrilled that her fans will attack back at her naysayers. She doesn't feel a need to defend herself, her fans do all the work for her. I truly believe she enjoys watching the battle no matter how disgusting or out of control it becomes, because it still is all about her.
It is obvious that kate is aware of this blog as she addresses almost every topic we mention that illustrates how badly she is lacking in... well, in everything. She shows her stupidity when she blatantly verbally corrects every fault we post. She is the best example of repressed growth in maturity, for almost 37 she portrays an immature 12, not even a teen. It must embarrass the hell out of the twins to have a mother who shows less maturity than they have exhibited.
Jon and Ellen have my sincerest sympathy for the path his 'past' has forced them to go forward on due to outside pressure. They both have shown very good judgement and it is a shame that kate and her continual crap caused their connection to sever. WHY does she has so much control and power over so much and many!!!!!! !!?
Regarding Kate Gosselin and the the so-called "tweet wars". While I agree it's ridiculous it stands in testimony to how social media and networking tools are used to further the personal and professional agenda of some very dubious persons many of whom aren't even real (aka SOCK PUPPETS). Kate Gosselin attracts the worst of the worst and that is no accident. As for the "haters" she had a tee shirt made that she wore in the LV Marathon claiming she was running because of them. What does that tell you all about Kate Gosselin? She also had a cake cheering herself on sent to the 8 kids she left behind to participate. Can't run locally or even statewide - has to fly to the west coast and then wear a tee shirt taunting her "haters". She's a polarizing, negative, narcissistic woman who will never go away because she has found a way to make a good living pandering to persons who have no critical thinking skills and are envious of Kate Gosselin "getting over" on someone else's dime. Yes, it's the fans who are the REAL HATERS. They hate themselves and their lives and fight with the critics on twitter because they are so bitter. It's pop culture in the gutter.
Having spent the majority of my working life in the travel business, I think I can shed some light on this cruise thing. Alice Travel have blocked "X" number of cabins on this sailing by putting down a deposit with Royal Caribbean. This Agency has put the Kate "package" together to sell exclusively. If there is little or no interest, Alice Travel will have to release the cabins back to the cruise line, likely by the end of April to avoid penalties. A Caribbean cruise in August is not a high season sailing, so this is a bit of a lost leader for Royal Caribbean. I imagine they think Alice Travel will fill cabins with this package, if they are giving this much thought at all. Generally, a minimum of 10 cabins would have to be blocked to make this thing an "event".
I am sure Kate has it built in to her agreement with Alice Travel that she goes no matter how many cabins are sold, her cruise will be protected, fans or no fans, and Alice Travel will pay.
The fact that Alice Travel keeps throwing more Kate-things in to this package is a sign that no-one is buying this package. It will be a "go" as far as the public is concerned, because Kate will be on this ship come hell or high-water!
Reality Bites said...66
"Kate Gosselin attracts the worst of the worst and that is no accident. As for the "haters" she had a tee shirt made that she wore in the LV Marathon claiming she was running because of them. What does that tell you all about Kate Gosselin? She also had a cake cheering herself on sent to the 8 kids she left behind to participate. Can't run locally or even statewide - has to fly to the west coast and then wear a tee shirt taunting her "haters". She's a polarizing, negative, narcissistic woman who will never go away because she has found a way to make a good living pandering to persons who have no critical thinking skills and are envious of Kate Gosselin "getting over" on someone else's dime. Yes, it's the fans who are the REAL HATERS. They hate themselves and their lives and fight with the critics on twitter because they are so bitter. It's pop culture in the gutter."
THIS.
It's only 11:00 am CST, but I nominate this as the Post of the Day.
Jumping In said... 67 I am sure Kate has it built in to her agreement with Alice Travel that she goes no matter how many cabins are sold, her cruise will be protected, fans or no fans, and Alice Travel will pay.
The fact that Alice Travel keeps throwing more Kate-things in to this package is a sign that no-one is buying this package. It will be a "go" as far as the public is concerned, because Kate will be on this ship come hell or high-water!
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In other words Kate has found a way to grift from her fans and Alice Travel at the same time -- a twofer!
With regards to the cruising:
I am an avid cruiser - I admit. I love having a "traveling" hotel that takes me to exotic places, while I can wine & dine onboard, all while being pampered. I love the people I meet onboard - in the dining room, at the shows, on the excursions. I've made some lifelong friends all over the world while cruising.
However, Hubby hates cruising. He has Meniere's Disease, which sounds similar to what you have, Administrator. His balance/equilibrium will be affected after a cruise - sometimes for months.
He's graciously consented to a cruise this summer - we're taking our 3 grown children on a Mediterranean cruise for two weeks in June, on a Royal Caribbean ship. The calmer seas (in the summer, anyway) of the Med won't affect his condition as much as the waves of the Caribbean.
If school wasn't starting the same week as Kate's cruise, I would be sorely tempted to go solo on it, just so I could observe and report on the happenings. I would LOVE to be a "fly on the wall", so to speak, for THAT little disaster.
Warmth of the Sun said....
Tweet - yes, I think she's one of the confirmed cruisers, along with gypsi, but Nickie's new-found texting friend is undecided. Does anyone have a tally for the cruise?
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Warmth, I have been trying to keep up with the cruise tally, too. There is a Nickie going, and that's probably the Nickie C3 who has been texting about a CA trip.
Here is what i have come up with so far:
1. Nickie (C3??)
2. Gypsi (I believe she said she's going with a group, but she is the only one paying for the "Kate" cruise, and the others are doing just the regular cruise (without Kate)
3. Peggy Scott
4. CJWhodunnit (and her family, I believe)
5. Matt Mull (haven't heard much about him at all)
In the "Maybe going" list:
1. Milo (although I don't think she's going to go. If she were,she'd have signed up by now. She's just pretending to be undecided to get extra attention from Kate.)
Possibly going but may not even exist:
1. Minny
Then there was a baseball player named Mark Teixeira who said he is going on the cruise, but didn't say if he's doing the Kate cruise or just the regular cruise.
Anyone else have any names to add? Could it be that she onlt has 5 or 6 people going? I guess it could be more if CJ's whole family is going (and if Minny exists), but that would be about 8-10 people, max. How embarrassing!
He's graciously consented to a cruise this summer - we're taking our 3 grown children on a Mediterranean cruise for two weeks in June, on a Royal Caribbean ship. The calmer seas (in the summer, anyway) of the Med won't affect his condition as much as the waves of the Caribbean.
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That sounds wonderful! The worst seas I have been in are in the Atlantic, up the east coast and over to Bermuda. I remember during one storm, I was commiserating with one of the cabin attendants, a lovely Greek gal who said that the place I wouldn't want to be is in the Mediterranean. She said she doesn't mind the Atlantic or Caribbean, but the rough waters of the Mediterranean make her sick every time! I guess it all depends on the time of year and what is causing the ocean disturbances. I've been in the Caribbean when it's been that calm that you didn't see a white cap from port to port.
I know what admin means about the vertigo, and she's right - lying down in bed doesn't help. In fact, it's worst because you can feel the "waves" on land! Riding in a car, running, swimming, being in motion helps, but staying still really is bothersome.
Hope your trip is fabulous!
Knows Quality said...
If school wasn't starting the same week as Kate's cruise, I would be sorely tempted to go solo on it, just so I could observe and report on the happenings. I would LOVE to be a "fly on the wall", so to speak, for THAT little disaster.
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If Jumping In #67 is correct I don't see any disaster. Kate WILL be cruising no matter how few sign up.
And I'm sure the fans who go would be delighted to have fewer people to compete with for their "queen's" attention.
Bill's Mom - No need to question whether you should discuss Jon & Ellen's break up here. That's what this blog is about - a safe place to vent and discuss the Gosselin phenomena like adults.
There were articles that stated Jon wanted to marry Ellen, but I want to point out that, to the best of my knowledge, neither Jon nor Ellen ever confirmed this. Given that Jon tries to live his life privately now, we don't really have a lot of info as to the particulars of their relationship, which is as it should be.
There is tendency, I have observed here and elsewhere, to put Jon on a pedestal as this father who can do no wrong and will be the savior to his children. I would caution us to remember that we don't know Jon outside of the show and the media.
I think he seems like a nice, regular guy who loves his kids and is doing his best. But that doesn't mean he doesn't make mistakes. He is human and has asked for the privacy to be human.
Yes, Bill's Mom, Kate will always be a factor in any relationship he has, as will his children. You can't be involved with someone in Jon's situation and compartmentalize what you will and won't deal with. Jon is part of a package deal.
I'm not sure if he and Ellen were ever personally harrassed by Kate's fans, but neither strikes me as the type to put up with it and would, I assume, call the police or a lawyer. As for paps, I don't think that was a huge issue in their relationship, especially this past year. Yes there were articles, but most seemed fairly positive, IMO.
I think, Bill's Mom, that what it likely boiled down to was Ellen wanting more than Jon could give. When you decide to be with a man who has already been married and has kids, you give up a lot of "firsts" - first wedding, first child, etc. Not that they aren't firsts for you as a couple, but he's already had those experiences. Also, sharing/co-parenting kids is very different than raising just your own. You are always accomodating another household's schedule and needs and trying to balance their standards, values and rules with your own. The kids have to adjust to different parenting styles and relational dynamics as they go back and forth.
That's just the a slice of what my experience has been, and as I have said, we have a good working relationship with his ex. It's a lot to consider before you jump
in for the long haul. I'm glad that it appears Ellen did.
If Ellen wants to see the kids, I'm sure Jon will let her. I think personally it will be good for Jon notto be involved with someone for a while. It seems Jon always had someone to take care of him/direct him - His dad, Kate, the string of girls (Deanna, Hailey, Stephanie, Kate M., Morgan) he dated after the divorce and then Ellen. Being alone can be a good thing and can help you learn a lot about yourself and what you're capable of.
Hope this perspective helped, Bill's Mom.
Layla said... 71 2. Gypsi (I believe she said she's going with a group, but she is the only one paying for the "Kate" cruise, and the others are doing just the regular cruise (without Kate)
Why would anyone go on the Kate cruise and not pay to see Kate?
Layla, 71 said..."Then there was a baseball player named Mark Teixeira who said he is going on the cruise, but didn't say if he's doing the Kate cruise or just the regular cruise."
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I believe that is the girl who loves Mark, a Mark fan. He plays for the Yankees, and he's not going on a cruise during baseball season! They're playing the Red Sox that week. I remember her saying that she wants to go, but I think that might have been all talk.
Thanks for your tally. That's what I came up with, too, but I threw out Minnie because I doubted that "she" existed! :)
"I think Kate thrives on the tweet war between fans and non-fans. She loves that her fans step up to defend her honor. It feeds her ego"
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I agree. However, many of these tweet wars have nothing to do with defending Kate. They are nasty attacks on one another, rude comments, a childish display of bullying about suicide, death, weight, etc., personal hate. Kate doesn't even enter into it, but she does nothing to stop it.
I agree that she will go on the cruise no matter how many sheeple show up. Her accommodations (with Steve) are covered by the travel agency.
Why would anyone go on the Kate cruise and not pay to see Kate?
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Because this Gypsi fan wants to do the Kate thing and take her family (kids) along. They have no interest in seeing Kate, and therefore, why would she pay the additional money for their Kate package, when they can get a cheaper rate by not purchasing the package? Isn't she the one who had the Disney cruise planned and then changed it to the Kate cruise?
I saw that Milo was mentioning Kate's next "media tour"--ha! Anyone besides Milo and Kate think there is going to BE another media tour? Anyone? Let's see, there was a media tour on Sept 12, when she went on a bunch of shows--all of which aired footage of her--and the cover of People magazine. There were a few little blurbs here and there, but the next "media tour" wasn't until the end of January--4 1/2 months later--consisting of an interview for a blog nobody reads, an appearance on "Extra" that didn't make it on TV or even on the internet, and a chat with Dr. Drew that has yet to air. Perhaps it will be on next month, who knows? No hurry. And a single pic inside People (no cover) and a pathetic 1-page article in Runner's World ( again, no cover). My, how the mighty have fallen! No slew of interviews bombarding the masses, no covers of anything...nothing. And Milo is planning for the next "media tour"? Some advice to Milo--don't hold your breath for that to happen. Wouldn't turn out well for you.
Sili 74 said,
There is tendency, I have observed here and elsewhere, to put Jon on a pedestal as this father who can do no wrong and will be the savior to his children. I would caution us to remember that we don't know Jon outside of the show and the media.
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I've never seen that here - a shrine built for Jon. In fact, I've read just the opposite, that he has made mistakes, recognized that he has made mistakes (unlike Kate), but he is the one who has learned from them, and continues to learn from them, putting his children's welfare ahead of everything else. That's not putting him on a pedestal; that's calling it as many see it, through observation and Jon's refusal to be media fodder.
And there are some here who do know Jon outside of the show and media, and can vouch for this.
Warmth Of The Sun said... 76
Layla, 71 said..."Then there was a baseball player named Mark Teixeira who said he is going on the cruise, but didn't say if he's doing the Kate cruise or just the regular cruise."
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I believe that is the girl who loves Mark, a Mark fan. He plays for the Yankees, and he's not going on a cruise during baseball season! They're playing the Red Sox that week. I remember her saying that she wants to go, but I think that might have been all talk.
Thanks for your tally. That's what I came up with, too, but I threw out Minnie because I doubted that "she" existed! :)
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Wow, so her count for this fiasco is less than 10, as far as we can tell. Just...wow.
Do you remember who the girl is who tweeted that? I remember it was someone who said "I'm going on that cruise!", but the person didn't say if it was the Kate cruise or just the regular cruise. I saw his name there, but I'm not fluent in Twitter. Guess I thought it was him, but it could have been sent out to him, Kate, etc. My bad.
I would like to think that those crude twitter attacks are coming from the bottle. Otherwise, it's pathetic to think that any mature, rational adult (and parents) would be capable of that kind of nastiness. What if their children would be victims of that kind of bullying? Would they demand that it be stopped? It's okay for them to do it to someone else, but don't you dare attack MY kids.
Bottom line is that Kate could stop it, but she won't, and that to me speaks volumes. She feeds on it; her narcissism requires adoration, and if she takes down her account, what does she have left?
Wow, so her count for this fiasco is less than 10, as far as we can tell. Just...wow.
Do you remember who the girl is who tweeted that? I remember it was someone who said "I'm going on that cruise!",
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Layla, I think it was luvmarktexeira, a teenager or young 20-something from Florida. I remember her saying that, but didn't see that she jumped back on later to say that she was definitely going. It just sounded like a something giddy that a teen would say.
I hope this is okay to post here. It's from the Facebook page "I'm Voting for Kate Gosselin in Life!" Kate's mother and sister own the page (and personally, I'm sure this is really family run.)
This sounds like a relative whose only way to contact Kate for a reunion is through that page. Sad, huh? Good luck with getting Kate to come! The kids' enjoyment won't make any difference to the Queen.
"Hey, M***** K***** here, you should see if Kate would like to join us at the 2013 A-Z Reunion in Windber, PA. Uncle Art and Aunt Ruth are one of the main reason this family tradition was started and has been carried on. I'm sure the kids would love it and GOD knows there is plenty of room."
--January 21
Ah, Layla, yes, I do remember now. She said, "I'm going on that cruise," but it sounded like she had already booked before the Kate deal was announced, and that it was a coincidence she was going on the same cruise. It was hard to tell if she already had plans, or if she found out about the cruise and wanted to book, saying "I'm going on that cruise!" Semantics...
Kate Gosselin once had big dreams for herself and look at her now - she's reduced to blogging for a coupon website and parading around in stiletto heels and micro-minis in full makeup and hair extensions smiling for camera phones and some lone pap from INF who makes his living following Kate Gosselin to and from strip malls, the dentist office, Target, etc. Her much promoted "Twist of Kate" show on TLC never aired before, during or after Kate Plus 8. This celebrity cruise looks to be a major bust and rightfully so - Kate Gosselin is NOT A CELEBRITY she's a heavily hyped overly exposed 37 year old woman who seemingly can't do anything without her handler/manager Steve Neild at her beck and call. Honestly, it surprises me that no one on the inside has come forward with a tell all book because things certainly haven't added up for a long time - e.g.. where is Gina Neild? Doesn't anyone find it odd that people who have seen her husband with Kate Gosselin claims they act like a couple, even eating off each other's plates?
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I don't know too much about Twitter, but can Kate see this? You know, if she is aware of the despicable battleground that this has beoome, she should read both the sheeple and the haters the riot act. She needs to tell both sides to stop it, or the fans get no acknowledgement from her. No more tweetie parties - she should cut off both sides until this stops, and if it doesn't, she should close her account. That's the only way to end it.
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Kate doesn't care. Any attention is good attention, as far as she is concerned.
The person who is the target of the grandfather comments is a Tweeter who tweeted before, during, and after her grandfather's funeral, apparently because she felt that this was an appropriate event to share with people she had recently "met" on Twitter. It was bizarre. She may be the same person who is talking about paying for several other Tweeters - strangers - to meet her in California.
She is also the Nickie who says she has booked, or is booking, to go in the Kate cruise, along with her family, and who clearly has no idea what is involved, costwise, to do so. She's asked many questions that seem to indicate little comprehension of things like fees, small print, etc. She's exactly the kind of mark Kate needs to make a success of this trip.
She is either a plant, or a terribly ignorant, lonely, naive woman, who now somehow believes that Kate cares about her dead grandfather, and that the strangers she has met, very recently, on Kate's Twitter feed are her BFFs.
The bullying is despicable, but so is the sheer lack of any kind of understanding about what being online means. This kind of interplay - the ignorant, the naive, the bullies, the vicious - says so much about a public education system that has failed to teach critical thinking skills for decades.
Unless she is egging people on for sport, Nickie has no idea that the internet isn't full of "friends". The sheeple have no ability to consider Kate in the light of the cold, hard, FILMED evidence of her behavior, and bullies have free rein because no one calls them on their behavior, and they don't see any reason to evaluate it critically, either.
What all of these people have in common is that their emotions rule their behavior. None of these people has the intellectual ability to critically assess what they are thinking or doing. They just do it -- the ignorant, the nasty, the grifting. There's no higher standard than "I want it".
All around, Kate's in good company. They all have the same goal - emotional gratification at the expense of others. It's a perfect storm.
Okay, thanks everyone, I was confused about that luvmark person. Can't tell if she's going on Kate's cruise or the regular one, or even going at all. I'll keep her on the "maybe" list, along with Milo and may-not-exist Minny. Still, only 5 names on the "definitely going" list, one of whom may bring hubby and kids. I suppose there could be others who are going but haven't tweeted about it, but I have checked out some fan sites, and no additional names have popped up there, either. It seems that anyone who is so enamored of her that they would pay thousands to go on a cruise with her would mention it on one or another site, but there's nothing.
I'm guessing that a final number will be released at some time. Someone said there were 400 people who signed up to cruise with Paula Deen, so these numbers do come out.Won't that be interesting to see!
I agree that Jon would benefit from spending some time on his own before leaping into another relationship. And, it is entirely possible that there is some consideration or plans to reconcile with Kate--despite her twitter response. She does manage to withhold information about upcoming happenings, when it is to her advantage.
Since, as of February, Jon, as well as Kate, will be free of any restrictions from TLC, that is when the truth will come out. Is it just a coincidence that the breakup happened right before their contracts expired?
It is entirely possible that they will enter into a business arrangement, called marriage. I am sure that Kate is fully aware that her opportunities in show business are rapidly drying up. The Barbara Walter of great stardom did not happen. And Jon may be amenable to reconciliation so that he can see the kids more. If they seek counseling, they can dramatically improve their communication and restore their family to what they pretended it was!
Even though her recent interview statements had some passive-aggressive comments about Jon, overall, her comments were kinder than previous ones.
Marriages are complicated and life is hard. Having a partner that can share the challenges of raising any number of children can make it easier, and even fun. Kate said that the divorce is not what she wanted, and she has even admitted that how she treated him was wrong.
If they actually live their lives as they said that they did, in which everything they do is for their children, they could make it work. I am not saying that this would be easy--they both have a lot of amends to make to each other and the kids and would absolutely require intense marriage and family counseling.
Jon would have to be able to assert his needs for his own personal development and Kate would need to respect him. Possible--yes, Probable--????? But these are not uncharted waters--many have successfully navigated through bigger storms than these two have.
There was once something that worked between them. If there were no children, the ugly outcome wouldn't matter. Perhaps that is what in the works??? When are the interviews scheduled to come out?? Late in February?? Maybe Dr. Drew will be doing counseling with them for a future show. That is the one thing that haterz and loverz would agree on--as long as the kid were not filmed! And then, admin would have something to recap!!! See? Win, Win, Win, Win, Win X8 !
Ex-nurse, you may (unfortunately) be right in your predictions. I do hope you are wrong though. I would be so disappointed in Jon to make a business arrangement out of a marriage. Playing with the kids emotions is horrible.
I caused a scene right before my dad's 3rd wedding (I was 13) because I told him I couldn't handle another divorce. I completely broke down and the ceremony was delayed until he could reassure me that he believed he was making a good decision (they are still married nearly 30 years later).
Those kids will be devastated if their parents reunite for money.
#87 excellent post - thanks to you and everyone else for their insightful comments and opinions.
Ultimately I think Kate Gosselin and other flash-in-the-pan celebrity wannabes who extended their 15 minutes by hiring expensive publicists and social media experts to promote them on Twitter, Facebook, Gossip websites (ROL) etc is indicative of just how perverse reality tv programming is. Adding minor age children into the cesspool is sickening and an outrage that should NOT BE TOLERATED in my opinion. What we need are uniform laws to protect the rights of children from exploitation and abuse. Isn't it interesting that NO ONE cares/dares to ask Kate Gosselin about the arrest of William Blankinship? Do you think Dr. Drew asked Kate Gosselin about him? If not, why not? These are the issues talk show hosts should be asking about not whether Kate Gosselin thinks Jon Gosselin is a good dad.
Ex-nurse, you are truly an optomist but the Gosselin saga is not a fairy tale.
I love the line from "Dumb and Dumber" when Mary, pressed by Lloyd, finally says so as not to hurt his feelings that there's a one in a million chance she'd ever have any interest in him, and he responded, "So, you're telling me there's a chance?"
That's kind of like Jon and Kate getting back together. One in a million.... more like never.
I would not want to give her any ideas to start the tabloid tongues wagging, so I don't see any reason to even suggest those two will reunite.
Jon and Kate getting back together? Why would anyone wish that on Jon? He may have changed, but Kate sure hasn't.
It is terrible for kids to grow up in a household where one parent treats the other so badly, and the worst possible modeling for the children's future relationships.
At least when they are living apart, the nasty stuff isn't 24/7.
Jon and Kate getting back together? Why would anyone wish that on Jon? He may have changed, but Kate sure hasn't.
It is terrible for kids to grow up in a household where one parent treats the other so badly, and the worst possible modeling for the children's future relationships.
At least when they are living apart, the nasty stuff isn't 24/7.
Layla said...Still, only 5 names on the "definitely going" list, one of whom may bring hubby and kids.
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Well, according to Milo, there will be several hundred people going and she doesn't want to monopolize Kate's time because others will want a piece of her, too.
I can't quite figure out this person:
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@Kateplusmy8 I commend u 4 doing DWTS, even after u admitted u could not dance, what courage that took. U r teaching life lessons 2 us all.
She seems to be a Milo wannabe, or is she Milo's second in command? This sheeple hierarchy is entertaining.
Bearswife said #90
I would be so disappointed in Jon to make a business arrangement out of a marriage. Playing with the kids emotions is horrible.
I caused a scene right before my dad's 3rd wedding (I was 13) because I told him I couldn't handle another divorce. I completely broke down and the ceremony was delayed until he could reassure me that he believed he was making a good decision (they are still married nearly 30 years later).
Those kids will be devastated if their parents reunite for money.
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Bearswife--Actually, I think that their reconciliation could prevent the kind of traumatic events that you experienced. Being parents is always a business arrangement that exists whether the parents are together or not. Generally, the same problems that may have contributed to the divorce will persist post-divorce--between each other, or repeated with others.
The Gosselins have young children, with many years of co-parenting together before they are launched. There is dysfunction in every family--usually it is not on display for the world to see. My marriage has its own problems, and could never survive the scrutiny of the camera.
In their earlier shows we saw genuinely affectionate people who got in over their heads and allowed their own greed and money to corrupt them. Older, and hopefully, wiser, it is possible that they can rebuild a relationship that is at the least based on mutual respect, and maybe, someday, genuine love. The kids are more self-sufficient, and many of the stresses of the day-to-day caring for young children at home will have been greatly alleviated. There should be space for Kate and Jon to support each other in pursuing their passions, dreams and goals.
We really don't know what Jon's plans are, post TLC contract. I have given him the benefit of the doubt that, based on his absence from the media, he has chosen a quiet life. However, lets face it, he used Twitter to announce his break-up, and from what others have said, revealed some of the details involved in the decision to 60,000 of his closest friends. For all we know, come March, we may again see Jon in the public arena--with or without Kate.
These kids have had so much upheaval in their short little lives. A return to stability, along with some civility, will help them to restore some of their lost childhoods. They both have a lot to make up for, and they both share responsibility for the breakup. People tend to forgive sinners, if they appear to be authentically sorry for their actions. Kate's future appears to be hurtling into obscurity. I think that a reconciliation, if Jon is willing, and Kate is willing to undergo therapy, is likely and will be, generally, viewed as a positive action. Oh, and will put them back on the covers of magazines!
Trying hard is what would have been commendable on dwts. Kate didn't even come close to putting in any kind of sincere effort. Like everything else, she preferred it just be dumped in her lap.
TLC Stinks--I am not an optimist, I am a realist. I am a deeply flawed person who has been married to another very imperfect person for 31 yeare, We have made more than our share of mistakes, and like everyone else, had no idea what parenthood and marriage would be like. There are rewards of working through problems together that can strengthen a relationship. I have always said that parenthood brings out the best in some people, and worst in others. I am a better person for having been a mother, and my reward is that I have great (but not perfect) relationships with my 3 children and their partners. My husband is a fantastic father, although you will seldom hear me admit it.
I believe that people can change --it takes commitment and a lot of hard personal work. Maybe they are not up to that, and maybe they are. The lives of 8 children are at stake--it would be surprising if it was not at least discussed. I am not predicting, I am just speculating.
Ex-Nurse, while your perspective is understandable and, imo, commendable, I think it is dependent upon Kate and I don't see her having enough self-awareness and insight to make it work.
Kate herself just said there is more peace between her and Jon but not because she has changed. As has already been said, Kate does not seem capable of acknowledging her own role in the disintegration of her marriage.
My husband was married to a woman with narcissistic tendencies (although nowhere in Kate's league) and other issues. She left him and then wasn't happy with the choice she had made and had asked if he would consider getting back together. He replied that he was sorry she felt that way but he was very happy with his life and had moved on. (we were dating). I asked him at one point if he ever would get back together with her, if just for the kids and he said no. First, he loved me and wanted to spend his life with me. She had made a choice and he had accepted it and moved forward with his life. He also frankly loved himself and his kids enough not to fall back into ab old pattern. Second, even if I weren't in the picture, the answer would be no. She would have to do a 180, completely change her values and attitude and be that way for years before he would even think about it, and he said "That's not going to happen. And even if it did, I would be happy for her but it wouldn't change my feelings. That ship has sailed."
Kate thinks she's fine "as is". So, why would Jon go back?
cDumber said,
"The person who is the target of the grandfather comments is a Tweeter who tweeted before, during, and after her grandfather's funeral, apparently because she felt that this was an appropriate event to share with people she had recently "met" on Twitter"
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Yes, I read that. It was very odd. She is very strange, and I know that she offered to fly her new best friends to CA, which raises some red flags. Who does that? She may not even have a grandfather who died. She may not even have any friends. That said, nobody is deserving of the attacks such as the ones that were launched against her last night. It got nasty. I've read comments directed at a sheeple ridiculing her spouse's suicide. Only a hateful, spiteful person is capable of such despicable behavior.
It certainly is a perfect storm, and we know what happens when one is caught up in one. There's no turning back. It's sink or swim, and in this case, there can't be a positive outcome for anyone involved, which is why I am glad that admin has cautioned anyone who participates in such Twitter attacks should not be involved in this blog.
It is indeed about emotional gratification, and Kate fits very well into that scenario. There's no justification for the debacle that both the haters and sheeple perpetuate on Twitter.
Well written post!
Kate is a narcissist and there's no indication that she's aware of this, or cares to change in any way. It took Jon 10 yrs. to realize it was a marriage that was stripping him of himself. He might be poorer now but he seems happy to be out of the limelight and he has his children about as often as he can and still work a full-time job. I can't imagine why he would want to jump back into the frying pan when he struggled so hard to get out of it. But...you just never know.
just can't imagine 101: completely agree with you...and here's hoping...!They both want different things and neither will change, one for the better, one for the worse.
I can't ever see Jon and Kate ever getting back together either. Kate has worked too hard improving her 'lot' in life and I think she sees Jon as not ambitious enough. He hasn't improved his personal appearance, his income, his status, nothing, and doesn't care- or so she thinks. They are on two different pages completely. Their values don't match, so marriage wouldn't work. It has to be a team effort.
If Kate and Jon decide to announce some reconciliation, then they will find them in "Heidi and Spencer" territory. Remember when they were supposedly geting divorced, and everyone knew it was a publicity ploy, and the whole world viewed them both with even greater contempt than before? The end (of media careers) was already coming for those two, but they would have fared far better in the public's perception if they had just quietly walked away. Now nobody will ever touch them again. Kate wants back on TV so badly she can taste it, and even if she's too stupid to see the lessons to be learned from that other moronic ex-reality-tv pair, surely there's someone in her life (Julie CM, Steve) who can warn her away. But being Kate, she might not listen.
I also totally understand why Jon made a brief statement on twitter about their choice to part ways. As long as Kate will do anything to be "known" and continues to discuss Jon in the media, his life will be subject to speculation & fodder for tabloid gossip. Jon's comment was well written, upbeat and concise. There's no reason now for anyone to wonder what happened or for there to be ongoing media buzz. It puts a period on this chapter of his life and I think it was totally appropriate and effective to handle it this way.
Ex Nurse said... 98
I believe that people can change --it takes commitment and a lot of hard personal work.
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True, but Kate has proven, over and over, that she is committed to nothing but Kate, and that she is allergic to anything resembling "work".
Someone who persists in believing that she is entitled to be handed everything she wants on a "golden" platter is not a person who will ever become a committed, responsible life partner.
Jon, who was complicit at least in the wedding vow fraud, knows better than anyone what a dishonest, grasping person Kate is. If he embraces those values, then he should give life with her another shot.
If he rejects her view of life, then it's a case of "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" if he even considers resuming a marital relationship with her.
Fortunately, I don't think that Kate would ever consider getting involved with Jon again, however attractive the financial terms.
Jon was fine as a dupe, with the Asian heritage she wanted for her cute babies, but she obviously considers him to be mediocre and far beneath her in every way she thinks is important.
Asian is fine for cute babies, but Barbie doesn't date overweight Asian men who work 9 to 5, day in and day out, for a living. He's got nothing she wants now, and that includes the responsible, quiet life he has been leading for the past two years. Barbie's got bigger plans, and she's owed them.
Forgive me for being dense, but where did all this wild speculation about a Gosselin marital reconciliation come from? I highly doubt it's even a remote possibility. It sounds to me like Jon beat the press to the punch by anouncing his separation very briefly and respectfully on his private account. How do we get from that to this?
Canuck said... 107
Forgive me for being dense, but where did all this wild speculation about a Gosselin marital reconciliation come from?
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Apparently a lot of people think a man without a woman is like a fish without a bicycle, and assume that a newly-free Jon will, in desperation, attempt to renew his relationship with the shrew with whom he made 8-count-'em-8 children.
This doesn't seem very likely, on any level. I have never met Kate except on video, but you couldn't get me into a room with her if you held a gun to my head, so it's difficult for me to imagine Jon wanting to return to the glorious days of his marriage to his delusional former wife.
Whoops, that should read "believe that a man without a woman is NOT like a fish without a bicycle". Gloria Steinham reference.
I read here everyday but rarely post....I wish Jon hadn't announced his breakup on Twitter. It really is nobody's business, especially since he has made it clear he wants a private life.
Now all the Kate fans are having a field day speculating what went wrong and blaming him again and again. It just makes me sick for him AND Ellen. How would anybody in the public know what is going on in their life if he hadn't told them? Some of Kate's fans have rumoured a breakup for several months now so why the announcement? If asked about their relationsbhip, he should have said ''No Comment''. I have always been on his side because of the abuse from Kate, but now I'm just disappointed in him for going to the media and giving the Sheeple more reason to bash him. The poor guy can't win for losing.
I do t think anyone needs to worry about a reconciliation. And I feel it is Jon who has moved past the marriage, and for the better. I would like to defend him, however. People portray him as the passive dupe in that marriage and I see it differently. I think he loved Kate and believed her when she said she had PCOS and wanted to try for one more child after the twins were born. It's really quite unbelievable that anyone would lie about this or wish for HOMs, but Kate is nothing if not unbelievable. Once the twins and then the sextuplets were born, he was trapped, as he loves and is bonded to each one if those kids. He also must have been panicked; how the hell were they to support all these kids? So yeah, grifting and a reality show solved that problem. But I think once that happened, Kate became even crazier with greed and her narcissism reached a whole new level. If you watch some of the older shows, Jon seems really uncomfortable with the whole thing, especially during the couch interviews. It took him a while to realize that keeping the family together would mean having to bow down to Kate's ridiculous demands and he finally couldn't justify it to himself or fit his kids. I have so much empathy for the man. No one could have predicted that their lives would come to this when they married. No one could imagine the monster that lurked beneath Kate's surface. She is truly an anomaly. I wish him well.
Kate doth protest too much. For as much as she spends so much of her time convincing us she has moved on and will never get back with Jon, we see she is still not over him. She is the only one still talking about him two and a half years later (two and a half YEARS!). Jon has already been through the course of a lengthy, serious relationship and Kate is still talking about HIM. Does she realize how pathetic she sounds at this point to still bring him up?
Jon, the one who doesn't have a need to constantly remind us he's moved on from Kate, is ironically, the one in that relationship who truly has moved on.
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So true. Kate is definitely bitter the divorce didn't go completely her way, that Jon had a say in the kids being filmed.
Will the children ever have a say in their likeness/image/selves being used for profit? Can, for instance, one of the twins tell their mother they don't want their mother using them in her website, or sell their pictures, etc?
Can, for instance, one of the twins tell their mother they don't want their mother using them in her website, or sell their pictures, etc?
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When they are 18, yes. Before then, conceivably, they could sue if they're not getting paid for it or want privacy. They could try to emancipate from her and control their own money. It's going to be awhile before they're old enough to think about this possibility though. A few kids have sued their parents over the years before they reached 18.
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@msgoody2shoes21 Pls DONOT repeat/ retweet contents of hateful tweets.I have them blocked&don't c them..Until u retweet it! Thx!:)apprec it
Is this true? If so, then she really doesn't know what is going on between the sheeple and the haters. Could she be this stupid to ignore it if someone has told her about it? If so, then she would have no reason to drop her Twitter account because ignoring it means that it doesn't exist.
So now, Kate, is admitting that she sees the haters tweets!
I think she would see them if she went to Twazzup, like others do. She definitely knows it is going on because she references it all the time.
Can, for instance, one of the twins tell their mother they don't want their mother using them in her website, or sell their pictures, etc?
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I think the bigger question is "Can Jon?" and "Why hasn't he?"
I don't think he can, legally, as she has major physical custody & he has tried to block her prior schemes ( like the Australia trip and further filming) and was shot down...however, maybe the kids are just too scared of Kate's wrath/disapproval/consequences to complain...so far. Or maybe Jon has tried, we just don't know.
When they are 18, yes. Before then, conceivably, they could sue if they're not getting paid for it or want privacy. They could try to emancipate from her and control their own money. It's going to be awhile before they're old enough to think about this possibility though.
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In Pennsylvania, there is no age limit for emancipation. Like the child labor laws, the emancipation laws in PA are murky. A judge will hear a minor's request for emancipation. The petitioner does not need to be 18, but he/she must present to the court a very good reason why emancipation is in the petitioner's best interest and is the best option to resolve the current living situation. Self-support and a clean criminal record is also a must. Each county in PA is different. The twins do have several years before that's possible.
All of the children, however, can make a request to live with the other parent. This can be heard now - there is no age limit. Judges listen to all requests, but there must be a valid reason to change physical residences. I've seen it happen with a child as young as 12.
I'm afraid, though, that all of those kids are going to be under her control until they are 18.
Out and about I'm confused, why would you need to petition the judge to emancipate at 18 or after?. You are legally an adult automatically at 18 in most states. Emancipation is sort of automatic and we all did it without know it, by "operation of law".
I think you confused what I'm saying. I'm saying at 18 they could stop her without question because by law, they would own their images and their money because they are adults. But if they want to do something BEFORE then to get a hold of their images and money, emancipation is one way to do it.
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@msgoody2shoes21 Pls DONOT repeat/ retweet contents of hateful tweets.I have them blocked&don't c them..Until u retweet it! Thx!:)apprec it
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Oh Lord she reads here. JUST YESTERDAY we were saying why doesn't she stand up and tell people to STOP tweeting hateful things. Now she makes her first announcement she's ever made not to repeat and retweet hate?
HIIIII KATE!!!! NEXT PLEASE EXPLAIN WHERE ALL YOUR CHILDREN'S MONEY WENT!
Administrator, I also believe Kate "doth protest too much", but more from the thought she cannot accept he can have a life without her direction. He was the Beta male to her Alpha dominance, how dare he have a life without her there to guide him? This is what she cannot accept or get over. How dare he have a life, even a mediocre one, without her instruction!
One comment about kids being old enough to decide where they live. I don't know exactly what the wording is in PA, but most laws will say something like the judge will "consider" where a kid wants to live as one factor, but isn't bound by it. Most states don't let kids run the show. They will listen (some more than others), but at the end of the day, the judge decides.
A lot of times in the teen years, kids will change their mind all the time who they want to live with. For instance if Mommy is being mean one week they want to live with Daddy. Then when Daddy lays down the law they want back to Mommy. Some judges don't take teens seriously because of this. A judge is also going to consider a lot of other things including where the kids' siblings are, where they've always gone to school, etc. What I'm saying is it sounds so simple for the kids to just tell the judge they would prefer to live with Jon, but just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean they haven't expressed this desire, or very well could in the future.
@KateD3 dr drew in feb... Can't remember date 16 minutes ago
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Please Kate you trolled here all yesterday and I have right in this post title that Dr. Drew will air Feb. 22. I have 12 hits from your town yesterday.
HI KATE!
Also, it's pathetic Kate is so helpless at promoting herself.
Oh Lord she reads here. JUST YESTERDAY we were saying why doesn't she stand up and tell people to STOP tweeting hateful things. Now she makes her first announcement she's ever made not to repeat and retweet hate?
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I don't think she's tweeting this because she's concerned about hateful comments. This is her way of sweeping it under the rug. She doesn't want to see it. If she doesn't see it, it doesn't exist. She doesn't want to see the criticism aimed at her.
I don't think she cares either about the hate, but I do think she cares about what we say and think she should do.
Also, completely disagree Kate doesn't want to see the criticism. She LOVES it. She may pretend she ignores it and doesn't want to see it, but she eats it up in reality. She wouldn't have worn that tshirt to the marathon if she truly didn't see or care.
Admin, since I'm too tiered tonight to go through all the comments and see if my question has been answered, sorry but I'm human and have those days.
Now, if the kids say they wish to live with whichever parent, but the parent they chose to not live with is better of, where does that stand as far as respecting a child's want? Say if one parent such as Kate owns a house, the other an apartment, smaller space, lesser paycheck, does that come into play at all?
Jon is working, I believe full time, Kate only has a minor blogging job. I am sure Jon's job has benefits, dental and most basic things that are covered I assume anyway. Kate, without TLC, I have never known a blogging job to make benefits. I could be wrong.
Sorry, but I don't have divorced parents and don't know anyone who is divorced to ask if within a situation like this a judge would still respect a child enough to send them where they wish even if it does not "appear" by physical or paycheck standards to be better.
I feel like what I've just said is rambling and I'm sorry but I've had one of those days where you just want to throw in the towel.
Also, completely disagree Kate doesn't want to see the criticism. She LOVES it. She may pretend she ignores it and doesn't want to see it, but she eats it up in reality. She wouldn't have worn that tshirt to the marathon if she truly didn't see or care.
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Really? Interesting concept...that she likes seeing herself being called the Queen of the C word. You may be right because she's not normal. No sane person would want to see themselves bashed to death. I recall on one episode she said that she deletes negative e-mails and never reads them. Maybe she was fibbing, or she has changed since then.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 127
I don't think she cares either about the hate, but I do think she cares about what we say and think she should do.
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But apparently she doesn't care enough when it is something that would serve her well - like taking down her Twitter.
I say this because if she doesn't see her criticism, how is she so darn well aware of it??? Presumably if you don't see something, you shouldn't know what people are saying about you. And yet Kate's web site and twitter is all about addressing her criticism. Something doesn't add up here.
I think she when says she doesn't see it, she often doesn't necessarily mean "literally." As in, well, I do see that people are calling me the C word, but I put absolutely no weight in it. Which is usually fine, except when your critics have a point.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 128
Also, completely disagree Kate doesn't want to see the criticism. She LOVES it. She may pretend she ignores it and doesn't want to see it, but she eats it up in reality. She wouldn't have worn that tshirt to the marathon if she truly didn't see or care.
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I don't think she loves the CRITICISM, but she does love ATTENTION. Being "talked" about gets her high, and gives her a thrill. I don't think it matters one bit whether it's positive feedback, or vulgar feedback. She feels as if she owns the universe when she sees all the "talk" about her.
"Everyone" is "talking" about Kate. It would all be so perfect if she could only charge for the privilege.
It doesn't really matter, in the end, since the "high" she gets from this isn't good enough. No amount of attention will ever be enough for her, and she will be back, 12 times a day, to see what's written here or elsewhere, desperate for the next hit.
This is the year it all ends for her, and it isn't going to be pretty.
This year I think will show Kate that she's got nothing left. Nothing of interest. So she's got 6 kids who happen to all 7 and a set of twins. Come to my state, lots of large families. Lots of large blended families. Are they all on reality TV as a way to make money? No.
Kate will learn she doesn't need a reality TV show to support 8 kids. She will learn that she needs to budget her money. She will realize that just because she has multiples that she won't be catered to as much if at all anymore. She will have to learn how to do things without managers maybe at some point in her life, learn that she won't get (and live with) the fact she won't get that cook show, that fitness show, all her large scale "dreams."
People today, if you want something you have to work for it, you have to earn it. Not a lot of people are handed everything just because of their situation.
But I kind of doubt Kate will ever give up her pedestal.
Kate must spend all day blocking people if she doesn't want to see negative tweets. Her twitter feed is just shameful, on both sides. No way could she shield herself from the hateful tweets because that's the majority of what's on her twitter feed. What puzzles me is how anyone could stand to have so much criticism publicly aired about them. Don't get me wrong, it's justified; she is screwing up pretty much any time she's awake. So...why not change things and maybe get some positive feedback? Like giving Jon credit for being a good dad, for instance? Why hold on stubbornly to her fucked up ways when it's brought on her downfall, harmed her kids and left her friendless?
@ Katie Cry-duh, because Kate can't change as she said, "I don't think it's because I'm doing anything different." She will never ever change.
Makes me wonder when her kids are grown, have kids of their own and she's in a nursing home or wherever and broke and nobody comes to visit her, will she wish things could have been done differently? When she's old and not married, when only one or two kids remember to send cards for whatever, you think then she'll miss family? Will she regret anything then? I would.
Oh, make no mistake that Kate reads here. She is so full of herself she can't stay away. She needs that reinforcement that she is so famous and so important and whether it is positive or negative matters not at all to her. She realizes that without the non fans she would be non existent. Look at her blog. She won't even allow comments and that's because she knows that she would be called out for all her lies. No way will she get rid of Twitter, she somehow in her twisted mind see's it as a form of being under her control. Another sign she reads here, one of her latest tweets talks about her spelling errors. She is one sick person -- God help those children.
Marie, a preview of Kate in a nursing home:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6Zlv9DNYEDA/TlmyRytGg6I/AAAAAAAABwQ/TVZgIcwIYX4/s1600/toughestquestions1.png
Because you know, the kids are picking it. Adults should keep this in mind.
Like a hungry hungry hippo, Kate just needs her narcissism fed. First she prefers Steve feed it, as well as other famous people, other celebs. Well we all know she's scraping the bottom of the barrel as far as brushes with Hollywood, As for Steve, he can't be around all the time--occasionally he has to check in with his real wife and children and family, so when he's gone she turns to her six fans. Of course those six can never fulfill what she needs so to fill in the deficit if she has to, she turns to the critics.
It is so pathetically sad a woman can't be fulfilled by "real life" as she calls it. Instead, she seeks fulfillment in Hollywood, a booby guard, and unstable strangers. And if that fails, she even seeks fulfillment in those who can't stand her.
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When she's old and not married, when only one or two kids remember to send cards for whatever, you think then she'll miss family? Will she regret anything then?
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No, she won't. She'll still be right, and it will be all the kids' fault. And Jon's.
Hi Kate... I KNOW you read this blog, so here goes: YOU SUCK AT LIFE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOU SUCK AS A MOTHER TO YOUR KIDS.
Also, Kate, please explain in your twitter WHY you yelled because your daughter put her hand on a slice of pizza, but YOU, your royal highness, can put your stinky butt and dirty shoes on a countertop where you are preparing food for your kids?
Can I please add: HEY KATE YOU SUCK AS A KEEPER OF THEIR FINANCIAL FUTURES.
Also, Kate, please explain in your twitter WHY you yelled because your daughter put her hand on a slice of pizza, but YOU, your royal highness, can put your stinky butt and dirty shoes on a countertop where you are preparing food for your kids?
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Amen.
And while we're at it, why you defended your stupid boyfriend over your own children???
The level that she sucks continues to astound me.
Well, announcement: This tired girl is off to sleep now. Tomorrow is going to be a fabulous day because I have a fabulous life, and I have fabulous kids, and, well, I'm just so fabulous, I'm amazed by the fabulousness of it ALL. It's just so fabulastic.
You guys on on fire tonight! Hilarious.
Seriously though...whatever is said here about and to her, is nowhere near as horrible as what she says to the children at the infamous bus drop-off and pickups. So, suck it up Kate! YOU deserved all of it!
Seriously though...whatever is said here about and to her, is nowhere near as horrible as what she says to the children at the infamous bus drop-off and pickups
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What does she say to them? Is this on audio?
Just found that Donny and Marie are hosting a 4 day cruise in February. Look how nice the website is with all the pictures and information. Also, see how many of the cabins are sold out.
http://donnyandmariecruise.com/
Marie said...
This year I think will show Kate that she's got nothing left. Nothing of interest.
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I think that Kate is fully aware that she is at the end of the line in terms of a career in entertainment and the media. I have never seen anyone else that was given as many auditions and opportunities to succeed, as she has. She thought that stardom just happens and doesn't see the very real hard work, dedication and preparation that a life in front of the camera requires. She has never understood the importance of professionalism in every aspect of work. Remember when, during DWTS, a LIVE show, she pushed beyond every deadline? She was so proud that she had such a vast understanding of how production works, and yammered on ow there is always more time than the allow? What a nightmare of a person to work with--that should have been the end of her. The hair, makeup and costume people certainly avenged this diva behavior with her demented portrayal of HERSELF, in the infamous paparazzi number.
The wisdom of the statement that "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result" is so abundantly demonstrated by her continued attempts to grift and slide through life. As was touched on in this post, it is likely that Kate has been abused. I have worked on inpatient psychiatric hospitals and I can verify that many of her abusive behaviors fit the profile.
Kate, for your sake, and the sake of your beautiful children, who love you and need you, please seek the help and advice of a qualified professional--not someone who plays one on TV. Shut down your twitter site, go to a PTA meeting, read a book, volunteer quietly in community organizations and in your children's classrooms, join a book club, learn to knit. Be curious, learn, educate yourself and listen to your children.
You are rapidly hurtling to the bottom, and it will be the splat heard 'round the world. You have alienated every one in your life. You have no one to blame but yourself--you did it your way, and now, here come the consequences of living a selfish and greedy life.
Barb@148 -
Now that is the way a celebrity cruise website should be put together...questions asked and answered, description of events. Very complete and detailed.
It looks like fun!
Yowser, that Donny and Marie cruise web site is so detailed and professional and "on the up and up." Kate's cruise web site looks like a parody compared to that (it's not...is it??).
They are doing like 20 activities, all described in detail, the goodie bags described in detail (no vague "special gift"), and it says MUCH MORE TO COME.
And look at how detailed they are about the pricing. They even have a FAQ section about passports, etc. They are completely honest about what is NOT included: "
Your cruise fare does not include government fees and taxes, fuel surcharges, transportation to/from ship, shore excursions, sightseeing or meals ashore, meals in specialty and à la carte restaurants, laundry, wine, beer, liquors, cocktails, soda, mineral water, medical expenses, spa, beauty salon, casino gaming, onboard shopping, onboard gratuities to the ship’s personnel, or any other items of a personal nature."
Whoever is managing this one did an awesome job. See, this is the difference between getting that funny feeling something smells like a used car salesman, and feeling like you know exactly what you are purchasing and are getting value for your dollar. It's all in the details, baby. Note to Kate: People will respond a lot more positively if you're honest.
Donny was before my time, but he is someone I know firsthand truly cares about his fans. We ran into him on a school field trip in Montreal years ago. He had his wife and a couple kids with him, babies then. The moms in our group couldn't help themselves, they approached him and chatted him up. He didn't act the last bit annoyed, he chatted forever with everyone while we waited in line.
Know what he was doing? Exactly what we were doing--Getting a tour of the Canadian Mint! Just you know, for fun. For kicks and giggles. Seriously, what celeb sits around and says hmm know what would be fun and educational today? No, not a Hollywood premiere. No, not the spa. No, not a free trip. I know, a tour of the Canadian mint. I'll always remember that and think highly of him for that.
Warmth of the Sun @147 Her face and the faces of the children is a good indication of what she says. Slip of the fingers...l should have said.....whatever she says to the kids from the LOOK on their faces and her face is horrible and speaks volumes.Not to mention what we have heard her say many times in the show.
P.S., to the sheeple upset we were calling this a scam? This is why we were calling it a scam. Because you don't know what you are paying for. It smells funny. It's shady. It's illusive. It's not honest.
Maybe you will get exactly what one would get on the Donnie and Marie cruise. But their cruise is not a scam because you know what you're paying for and what you're NOT paying for when you write that big fat check. You can choose to sign up or not sign up and feel good about it because you know everything you need to know about it, nothing is going to slide by without you knowing it.
Warmth of the sun, she says this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2gFjVIBTauc/TIsVZfvTmWI/AAAAAAAABGQ/Y0ZxV5kf2V8/s400/katebubble.jpg
Barb In Nebraska said... 148
Just found that Donny and Marie are hosting a 4 day cruise in February. Look how nice the website is with all the pictures and information. Also, see how many of the cabins are sold out.
http://donnyandmariecruise.com/
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And look at the price. Cheaper than the Grifter's, if I am remembering correctly.
Plus no hurricanes.
Donny and Marie have been working since they were young. I bet they got to keep most of what they made so they'd have a nice little nest egg to begin their adult lives with. Sure, some may have been used to help support them, but I don't think they were the family breadwinners.
Donny and Marie's music has never been my favorite, but whenever they have shared a stage it's always so clear how deeply they love each other. And there is no denying they are fun to watch together. They give wonderful interviews and seem pretty humble through the fame.
Those characteristics would help sell out a cruise in no time.
Sure, some may have been used to help support them, but I don't think they were the family breadwinners.
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Oh, how wrong you are. Those kids worked their asses off whether they wanted to or not. Marie talks about it in her book. She hated doing meet and greets but her mother told her (guilted her) by saying this: Marie, these people have travelled a long way to see you and your brothers and you will stand out there and shake their hands with a smile on your face.
I think the Osmond's are a pretty nice family, almost free from scandal (except when Marie's son jumped to his death from his apartment balconey), but don't kid yourself. Kids shoud be kids. Period.
Do you suppose Gina Neild would like to have a Carribean cruise this summer? I wonder if anybody has thought to invite her along.
Uh huh. After all, she and Steve are such good friends with Kate. Gina might like to run with Kate in the mornings and go on an excursion with her. Sure.
OK, I just had to be Comment #1000. Is that a record, Admin? Can I please have a cruise ticket as my prize? I'll take notes and mention your names a lot if you will send me
on a luxurious week long vacation with the
celebrity of my dreams. It's been on my bucket list for a very long time. Please?
Bummer! I call foul. Before I posted above, the counter was in the 990's. As soon as I posted 1000, it jumped back to 960. I think this is rigged! I'm calling Steve.
Oh, how wrong you are. Those kids worked their asses off whether they wanted to or not. Marie talks about it in her book. She hated doing meet and greets but her mother told her (guilted her) by saying this: Marie, these people have travelled a long way to see you and your brothers and you will stand out there and shake their hands with a smile on your face.
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We're talking about two different things.
I never said they liked working. I said they probably got to benefit from the money they earned because their parents didn't
spend it on themselves.
Admin. @155,
Great picture of the Gosselin crew. Why would anyone possibly need audio to imagine what is said behind closed doors? Kate makes some faces that scare me, imagine what it must be like to be one of her kids and know there is nowhere to run from her. Poor kids, we have some idea, but the books will be heart-breaking to read.
I hope someone steps in soon and Kate loses the amount of custody she has, before she totally self-destructs.It is not going to be pretty when she finally realizes it's all over.....
Hi, Teresa, nice to see you back posting again.I thought maybe Kate had gotten ahold of you! Dwindle and Hippie chick, I'm still looking for you- miss your funny, insightful posts.
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Ex Nurse said... 98
I believe that people can change --it takes commitment and a lot of hard personal work.
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True, but Kate has proven, over and over, that she is committed to nothing but Kate, and that she is allergic to anything resembling "work".
Someone who persists in believing that she is entitled to be handed everything she wants on a "golden" platter is not a person who will ever become a committed, responsible life partner.
Jon, who was complicit at least in the wedding vow fraud, knows better than anyone what a dishonest, grasping person Kate is. If he embraces those values, then he should give life with her another shot.
If he rejects her view of life, then it's a case of "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" if he even considers resuming a marital relationship with her.
Fortunately, I don't think that Kate would ever consider getting involved with Jon again, however attractive the financial terms.
Jon was fine as a dupe, with the Asian heritage she wanted for her cute babies, but she obviously considers him to be mediocre and far beneath her in every way she thinks is important.
Asian is fine for cute babies, but Barbie doesn't date overweight Asian men who work 9 to 5, day in and day out, for a living. He's got nothing she wants now, and that includes the responsible, quiet life he has been leading for the past two years. Barbie's got bigger plans, and she's owed them.
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Well said! No way will Kate get back together with Jon. She thinks she is too good for his "mediocre" life-style, and that she is "too good" for him. Never mind Stevie boy. She still has no talent or skills that justify a "celebrity life style,"and is in the fade mode, although she will not go quietly.
I do believe she will do ANYTHING to keep herself relevant, but Jon is not in the equation. She prefers the "martyr" single mom role, while being with Steve, as she hopes to keep her false image alive.
I agree, she is similiar to Heide and Spencer, a person with no talent, ethics, etc.. who keeps trying to keep herself relevant, as pathetic as it may be.
I will also add that after watching her show for a while, she clearly has serious anger issues and no one will ever please her. Her nature is to lash out and criticize every step of the way. Glass is half-empty type. You can not change personality. Although Kate is always trying to change perception, she truly is a very disturbed person who will never be happy as she has great/unrealisitc expectations of everyone in her life, including her kids, family,friends, etc.. I think TLC showed Kate's true behavior in the Palin and RV episodes, as they knew she was an ungrateful nasty witch, who has complaints, no matter how much they paid for clothing, food, trips, amenities. It is pretty bad when TLC, who catered to her for years, FINALLY said enough, and allowed footage of "employees"complaining about her horrible and very real behavior.
Kate has a knack for biting every hand that feeds her and views people in her life as disposable, in order to meet her own needs.
The kids are accessories to keep her alive- Shame on her! Deep down, she knows she is NOTHING without them.
In order to change..you have to actually "admit" that there's something wrong with you. And that can't be done because she thinks she's perfectly normal. It's everyone else that has the problem..Can you say denial?
I like Donny and Marie as people, but I see them more as survivors of a f-ed up childhood and not people thriving BECAUSE of a good childhood.
Unfortunately they DID actually lose a lot of their childhood money. But neither of them really seem to want to talk about it--almost like they blocked it out. When asked what happened to the money, Donny said this: "I have never asked for the details. What was I going to do about it?"
It's obvious both of them have a TON of issues from childhood. They have chosen to be in the spotlight now as adults, but that doesn't mean that their childhood was good.
Donny performed a show with appendicitis at 15 and the adults KNEW. They rushed him to the hospital afterward. Sound familiar? Collin we'll take care of your constipation problem AFTEr we film. He was also once horribly homesick in Sweden and wrote his mother begging to come home. His parents made him stay and do his shows.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-485982/I-hated-says-teen-idol-Donny-Osmond.html#ixzz1kxDY7tDQ
Admin - could we start an Osmond thread? Just wondering. It's an interesting topic and this one has gotten so big.
Thanks!
Not a bad idea Sillimom!
To discuss how much more professional their cruise is, as well as their f-ed up childhoods? :)
Last time I saw Marie Osmond on TV, she was hawking weight loss and definitely looked like she had plastic surgery on her face (mouth was stretched).
Back to Jon and Ellen: I don't have a problem with Jon breaking the news on Twitter. Better for him to say it than have the tabloids speculating. Although he was a willing participant with TLC in the beginning, he will have no peace as long as Kate continues to seek out publicity. If he can stop dating these young women and seek out those his own age, he will find stable relationships. Kate's not the only one with issues.
"I like Donny and Marie as people, but I see them more as survivors of a f-ed up childhood and not people thriving BECAUSE of a good childhood. "
All of the children in the family were forced to preform on some level. My father went to school with some of the older children. The older children were always the entertainment in the school assemblies. They preformed at local events and also for their church. Donny and Marie were the ones who stood out. This caused the parents to give them more attention then the older children.
Agreed, fidosmommy. Gina and the boys would love that cruise too. Absence of Steve's family on a trip like that are revealing. My husband always tries to include me in his business trips to Europe, so I have to wonder what the deal is? Does Kate explicitly tell Steve no family can come? Or, are she and Steve the couple that we all think they are? Time will tell....
Dr. Drew is a fellow narcissist, just like Kate. Self-aborsorbed and greedy, willing to exploit anyone for attention and money.
Did anyone find it disturbing that her nearly 8 year olds still say things like "Hairpane"? I get that they were preemies but by now they should be over that. They didn't have any major issues to begin with. It's sad how she thinks it is cute that they still talk like toddlers!
Those kids adore their father and I think it angers her. She acts as if Jon is a terrible person. He loves his kids. he is the one who did all their major care. He bathed them, dressed them, and played with them and got them off to school. What the hell did she do with them?!
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