The new season of 19 Kids and Counting promises to deliver lots of highs: tree planting, baby names, corn maize, music. And some incredible lows--the miscarriage of the Duggar's twentieth child.
Last night's season premiere featured Ma and Pa Duggar worried when the doctor couldn't find their baby's heartbeat. False alarm--she finally found it. But the doomed pregnancy, according to previews, will be chronicled in its entirety, including the moment when they find out the horrible news, followed by the baby's funeral. American's latest most exploited family has lost all sense of decency and boundaries. Wrote entertainment writer and recapper Richard Lawson, "We like to be horrified by 19 Kids and Counting, but not like that." Lawson went on to write:
"The producers presumably had discussions about how to best handle this situation, and it seems they've chosen the most sensationalistic way rather than the most sensitive. The cruelty alone of the show title ending with '...and Counting' is enough to make you cringe. But to then stage a nervous yet ultimately happy doctor's visit at the end of the first episode, as if the season is looking toward new promise, when of course it's not, feels a bit beyond the pale. It feels like they're trying to trick viewers who aren't aware of what happened, hook 'em in with hope and them slam 'em down with a twist at the end."
In other news, Michelle Duggar told Today this morning, "We would be open to more if God saw fit to bless us with more."
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I laughed so hard when I read your post and I am nowhere near drunk yet! Good one.
OT. Waiving madly @ Teresa and Dwindle, where are you? Miss you. Sorry, I had to do it, Admin.
Maybe Kate got stuck in her teens because somebody knocked the hell out of her for getting that stupid Winnie the Pooh tattoo....
That should be waving; my mother would be appalled at my spelling on here!
Michelle and Kate have the same slogan, it appears. Kate would be blessed if God would see fit to bless her with more too, only would it be money or another deuce or 6 pack to terrorize again for riches and fame? Both. Bitch.
That should be waving; my mother would be appalled at my spelling on here!
Michelle and Kate have the same slogan, it appears. Kate would be blessed if God would see fit to bless her with more too, only would it be money or another deuce or 6 pack to terrorize again for riches and fame? Both. Bitch.
Sorry Admin. for double post. It said it didn't go through the first time.
Admin, ya I love ya more than my luggage, but did you really mean to say that Kate is a "conniption" at 103? Conundrum maybe? Not that my grasp of language is anything to write home about...
Hey Jude! (running, squealing, big hug!)
Kate got 200 lbs of chicken like she makes 2 loaves of bread, 6 dozen eggs, 75 pounds of bacon, and 19 gallons of oatmeal every morning for breakfast. Slaughtering her own organic hogs and smoking the bacon herself, all the while harvesting the oats from the yard with her OTHER hand, balancing three 7-year-old 'preschoolers' on each hip and two bigger girls on her back. And the Glory of the Lord shone all around her. Genuflect when you discuss that chicken, she is an abandoned, unemployed, unmarried mother of eight, dontchknow.
Dont make me tell you again. Pass the Pinot Grigio, box or bottle, I am not feeling too fussy.
Dwindle yes conundrum. I have a love/hate relationship with Apple's autocorrect.
damnyouautocorect.com
RT @luvmarkteixeira @Kateplusmy8 my birthday was yesterday I turned 24 I didn't get a shout out from ya :( love u Kate anyways!! HB 1D LATE! about 2 hours ago
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I guess a 24 year old deserves a birthday tweet but not a four year old!
A lot of celebs get paid to tweet products. I'm sure the griter has learned and that is why we are seeing so many products mentioned. Although her never getting the tweet name right is puzzling. hmmmm maybe she has HEARD about celebs getting paid to tweet and figres if she mentions products they will contact her and offer $. The only weird thing is kate does favor for no one, so I find it hard to believe she is giving anyone FREE advertising.
EM
admin..have you ever been to the website damnyouautocorrect.com kinda funny
anyway..notice how kates camera didn;t work to photograph the 200lbs of chicken? how did her iphone camera not work only in that situation?
Same with the bread, we saw maybe 20 loaves and most were mini's. The Easter baskets that got devoured..the endless wrapping but no photo.
Call me a non believer. If she twits pics of her Valentine's plates she damn sure would be twitting pics of her 112 loves, 200lbs of chicken and piles of gifts. She's a fake.
EM
In reading some of the comments, I noticed that some as still using anonymous. It makes it so difficult to respond because you don't know which anonymous is which. There are those courteous to post their initials or other ID at the bottom when using anonymous.
Others, though, do not post any kind of ID below the post, and so many times it seems they use anonymous just to get away with snotty posts. It is not difficult to sign in using "name" and picking an ID. You do not have to use a URL - the post will go through with just the name. You hit Select Profile, and then the Name/URL option is right above the anonymous option. Just a name will work.
Admin, is it possible to remove the Anonymous option?
admin..have you ever been to the website damnyouautocorrect.com kinda funny
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Only daily!
Admin said
I guess a 24 year old deserves a birthday tweet but not a four year old!
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And how is the four-year-old supposed to pay for the cruise???? No gain, no RT. It's Grifting Time!
Add the therapy bill($10,000) to that grifting list.
Anyone? what is with Kate and beans? Kate sure feeds her kids, lots of beans. I know they have protein, but? I can see green beans, edaname, not baked beans all the time. And why so much chicken? I guess when you under feed your kids, anything you put in front of them they will eat and not complain. I think I would get sick of eating eggs & chicken, and beans. kate has some weird thinking when it comes to food. I went to Subway and got a footlong Steak & cheese for $5, ate half saving the other half for tommorrows lunch. Yesterday I had chicken teriyaki on rice bed, bought some stir fry veggies at the veggie section and some chinese noodle. Cut the chicken, cooked the veggies and noodle and had myself a stir teriyaki dinner w/noodle. Saving the rice for another meal.
Oh, I do love this blog, please try and keep those mutants out of our sandbox- that was downright wierd! These are the people Kate encourages to be in her life, wow! Hope none of them can afford the cruise- there ain't enough security in the world against that bunch.
Dwindle, so good to have you back. I must say, your blog almost made me nuts; I tried so hard to get on there but the blog demons would not let me in, only that one time,just to confuse me.sheeesh....
Coming over for some Pino, my favourite,if you could just give me directions to your house, like Kate does!!te he he.
Some women aren't cut out to be mothers. Instead of having kids they should be doll collectors, or crazy cat ladies.
They should certainly have a plan to support their children without public assistance.
People are seeing the light and this awful mother will be held accountable.
Things are getting better in the world of Gosselin.
Much better!!!!!!
This is an upper crust blog.
A delightful pie with yummy fillings.
Thank you for keeping this a troll/twitter free arena where we can chat.
Things are getting better in the world of Gosselin.
Much better!!!!!!
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Why and how? I don't see this at all.
where do you find the pictures Kate posts of her "wonderful" meals?
Yesterday I had chicken teriyaki on rice bed, bought some stir fry veggies at the veggie section and some chinese noodle. Cut the chicken, cooked the veggies and noodle and had myself a stir teriyaki dinner w/noodle. Saving the rice for another meal.
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What are you going to make with the leftover rice?
lin@ 18,
Kate will make the Asian-ist rice dish she can copy.
@anger issues, you noticed a lot of beans too, huh? I mean beans in her casserole, re fried beans and beans again today.
And I think all Kate wanted to do was grill chicken the entire RV trip until someone said they wanted pizza?
Anyone remember the episode they went to the farmer for vegetables and she picked out egg plants and all the kids said no that they have been eating that for "three days." She made chicken cacciatore instead.
I mean there are other ways to get protein.
Lin I would go with fried rice. Ming Tsai has a great recipe, and has lots of options depending on what else you have around. Search google if interested.
Jon and Kate got that side of beef or whatever size it was on an early show, but she never seems to make anything with beef, besides hamburger.Jon made his Asian dishes for supper one night and they all loved it,especially Kate.
They went out for a meal and had steak, seafood and good quality cuts.Now that Kate has to pay and she doesn't eat food, she buys everything cheap for the kids.What a great Mom and cookbook queen she is- you would think it would be a fun activity for her and the kids.
Who am I kidding; she just has to order Skeeve his pizza and make sure there is lettuce in the frig. and her favourite wine.
Did anyone see that Duggar show where it was Jackson? or some boy name 's birthday.They were busy on his real b'day so they had it later with the Grandma another day.They took him to get a new bike, and his Grandma and his brother ended up getting one too. Way to make a kid feel special on his birthday, eh? Touching, but at least it wasn't a used bike, Jim Bob, yeah.
Anonymous said... 17
where do you find the pictures Kate posts of her "wonderful" meals?
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She posts the link to the pictures in her tweets.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 97
Remember that rumor (not even the right word) that he jacked off while having a massage on his honeymoon? I believe every word of that. Heh.
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Oh dear lord this is news. Well thanks a lot admin...now I'll have to spend the rest of the night trying to erase that image from my brain. eewww. I've never been a huge fan of Kevin Costner...now I won't be even a little fan.
I watched parts of Whitney Houstons funeral today. How much trouble would I be in if I said it was a little over the top? I felt sorry for the family and length of it.
Godspeed Whitney.
And about the 200 pounds of chicken all I can say is: if Big Bird isn't on Sesame Street come Monday, we'll know where to find him.
Kart wants one of the twins in commercials or acting! Confirmation ( like we need it ) of saying..."whatever they capture they can use..."
http://www.cbs.com/thunder/player/tv/index.php?partner=tvcom&pid=nYxF0BhSc9JXCpZJoF7HWoD2UFFWxylI
Arggg...am l violent?! l just want to punch her in the nose while watching that clip. She needs that smirk wiped off of her stupid face.
I watch the video and all I could see was the two lines running down the side of her face.
She truly in this looks completely aged. You can totally see it in her face.
And, just because Mady likes to do things jingles or whatever now doesn't mean down the road she will keep that. Remember she wants to be a vet. When she's 16 who knows what.
Where are all these people Kate claims say she is not how she is on TV? This is after she says, "What they capture they can use." Now...if they capture her being horrible I don't chances are she's horrible. Just the way it is. You can only have so many "bad days." before people realize that's your normal state.
Looks like Kate is taking the kids to Peru:
angieefiorella @Kateplusmy8 hey kate! Why dont you come to Cusco - Perú with your beautiful kids! Im sure you guys will enjoy it! :) Its an invitation
about 6 hours ago in reply to Kateplusmy8
Kateplusmy8 @angieefiorella would LOVE to!
about 5 hours ago in reply to angieefiorella
angieefiorella “@Kateplusmy8: @angieefiorella would LOVE to!” ITS OFFICIAL :) my family has a house in Cusco so you can stay there if u want! :)
about 5 hours ago
Lordy bee, it's like paper cuts on your ears listening to her! Ummmmm........blah blah blah.....little lilt at the end so it sounds like I'm asking a question??? Don't forget to insert little 'oh well!' shrug and eyebrow raise!
But I did laugh when she said she has a crazy work schedule. She blames that as well as her 8 kids for not meeting men. She does not work. Oops, I mean, ummmmm, she does not work?
PJ, did you count how many times she said she has 8 kids? And the look to someone on the sidelines confirming how funny and cute she was. Ugggg. Oh, and...how terribly busy her work schedule is... poor thing!
Marie, yes! l could hardly take my eyes off those deep lines either side of her lying mug.
Teresa,
You are here again, it's my lucky day.Just wanted to tell you I managed to get on Dwindle's place and foiled the boogers that wouldn't let me on there!Come on over,Dwindle was home,too.She has Pinot, if you like it or tea. Do you like blueberry tea, the alcholic drink- had some and it's good.Big hug!
Does anyone remember Kate in the video of their honey-moon at Disney, of course. She was skipping and waltzing down the middle of the street and Jon was taping ?She kept asking Jon if he was getting her and was the red light on, etc.
I guess even then she liked the cameras and being the centre of attention, and then that night she said the next day they were going shopping, her favourite thing. Not much has really changed,except her appearance and lousy mothering.
Ex Nurse...l think Jon may have something to say about a trip to Peru. At least, l hope he does.
Hi Admin,
OT/ I am in San Clemente for the weekend. First time in California. It's as cold here as it as back home in Minneapolis haha.
JUDE! At last! caught you here. Darn it - have been leaving you notes on every new thread. So glad you are having insomnia again :) means l get to chat with you here. Oh, and l gave my email address to Dwindle to give to you. Did you get it?
Yeah I don't think that random twitter person is also paying for nine round trip tickets to Peru. Or even one. And who knows if they're pulling her leg or not. She really shouldn't respond to tweets like that, but she can't help herself when her Greed-ar starts pinging like mad.
Well, she's been lazing around on her orange flat ass since August. Wonder how much of her five million she still has. Or should l say, he KIDS 5 million.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/kate-gosselin-net-worth/
Why the hell was she being interviewed anyway and when?
Oh and Teresa, would you please answer my British public school question. I just believe that gaining knowledge is a good thing, and if you think you know something, and your wrong it's not embarrassing, it's learning and learning is life. Plus it might change your opinion on Diana, Princess of Wales a little.
Tamara,
Just to let you know l am aware of your bait. And l'm not biting...sorry ;) Have a nice day.
Tamara,
Rule # 3. Why is this so important to you, re: boarding school? Give it up, you appear determined to be right about something here, not sure why.
Elizabeth Smart got married today! Here's wishing her all the happiness in the world. So happy for her.
Pants enjoy CA! I've never been to San Clemente.
Jude...hospital? Should l be worried? Hope everything goes well. Lots of hugs and prayers for whatever is ailing you my friend. xoxo
Well, this conversation just came to a grinding halt. GN everyone, it's 2 hrs. later here and I have to get some sleep before my ordeal to-morrow .I'm sure it will all be so amazing though! GN Teresa, ;)
Jude?
So great for Elizabeth Smart,I wish her all the happiness.She deserves it. Not to worry ,I hope, Teresa.Tests and stuff, you know the drill.Thanks for good wishes, really going to bed now.TTYL
the piling on begins @46,
I don't do twitter, nor am I a bully.Simple question asked.
Rule 3 please. Move on or take it elsewhere.
Sorry Admin.
"Do you lknow the way to San Jose" is poking fun at the hater who supposedly lost her job due to all this Gosselin crap.
Did anyone figure out who that baby was in the pic Kate twittered on Super Bowl Sunday when the kids were 'dancing'? It was hanging on the wall.
A Kate fan did try and get a hater to lose her job but they didn't succeed.
If Khate actually had 200 pounds of chicken why did we not see pictures of the boxes? She could have shown them before or after. She is so full of it. She always makes these exaggerated statements and never has anything to back them up with. Every holiday we hear about the hours of work and love she puts into making special gifts and wrappings and then her camera doesn't work or they were opened too quickly or blah, blah, blah. The picture of the kids was definitely staged. The books I am sure are probably from the school library.
Regarding those sacks she had on the back of the chairs for Valentine's Day. My friend has ones she bought at Christmastime from The Pottery Barn. She made decorations for the different holidays out of felt and just covers over the Christmas ones. That way she can use them all year long. Hey! I just wrote her next CC blog for her. LOL.
Just saw the clip where Kate confirms that Maddy would want to do work in commercials. So Kate, who found that the world was not beating a path to her door with television offers will become the ultimate stage mother to keep her celebrity lifestyle. How horrendous that she tweeted that little blurb about Maddy being in the play. That was an invitation to the Paps to attend and take pics, all publicity for Maddy to help her in her "career". Poor Maddy who deserves to have her family come and see this show just like every other child in it will now be subjected to having this become a spectacle. I worry that in general, Maddy is at particular risk trying to grow up in that chaotic household. I believe as Kate has singled her out to achieve her dreams of celebrity. This is not a healthy role for any young person and these expectations of Kate's are only going to put more stress on this young girl who has had to deal with so much trauma in her life already. I can't understand how a psychiatrist, like Dr. Drew can sit with Kate and not challenge her on this stuff. I guess this man has limited diagnostic ability if he can sit on a couch with the biggest narcissistic child exploiter you could find and not call her out on any of this. If anything, Dr. Drew is just another enabler to Kate, the fame whore.
Couple of random thoughts:
The only two things keeping this shrew's name out there are Gather and Twitter.
I think it's beyond creepy to tell anyone who wants to read it, what your kids are doing.
As far as her attending church, I don't believe they attend anywhere.
One minute she tweets they aren't going to church due to a sick child, two minutes later, she tweets about being a runner..that makes absolutely no sense! (how do you have time to tweet when the kids ARE home, and even moreso when one of them is SICK)
As far as her going to Peru, unless the person arranging accommodations is paying airfare, Kate and kids aren't going.
I wonder how sales of her cruise plans are going? I bet not great..
She hasn't been employed in 6 months, I wonder how the finances are holding up. She may have attained all the worldly goodies she wanted, but the key is to holding onto them. I don't think she will have the ability to maintain her lifestyle for the long term.
Wonder how much employed help she still has? (housekeeper, nanny)..
She's a terrible mother, and a drama queen.
She should delete her twitter and focus on her kids.
She's delusional. The only attention she receives is negative, with a smattering of doltish idiots who are stupid as she is.
Her last book deal was canceled, not that anyone would have read it.
What IS she going to do? I think she'll hold onto this fame as long as she can. Without it her life is empty.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 101
Tala, lol. Name one good Kevin Costner movie. Go.
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The Big Chill.
He played the corpse at the beginning of the movie. Perfect casting.
...GM all...I'm heading to pediatrician later 2day w/ a sick child instead of 2church... They r all upset that we aren't going! Me 2! :( :( about 2 hours ago
Please! What was her excuse last week and the week before and on and on?
Also she's in exploitation overdrive this weekend, she just tweeted yet another picture of the kids. Just put them on youtube already!
Re: the chicken. There is a photo of ONE box "Bell & Evans" and a food saver on Twitter. I do not have the link but it's easy to find. They do not have a factory store but you can purchase their organic chicken,etc. at Giant and Whole Foods was/is having a one day sale. Some grocery stores will order large quantities for you but there is not, to my knowledge, a discount.
So she brought 200lbs of chicken but got hot dogs for free.?
What pediatrician is open on Sundays?
Does her pediatrician have office hours on Sunday? She tweeted about her sick child at 8:30am-isn't that too early to call to make an appointment? Something just doesn't sound right. Although she could be taking her to one of those clinics that places like CVS has.
Surprised she's up so early on a Sunday-and already twittering away. She has a sick child, but yet she must get on twitter. Her priorities are sure screwed up.
Kate is a twit said... 62
Does her pediatrician have office hours on Sunday? She tweeted about her sick child at 8:30am-isn't that too early to call to make an appointment? Something just doesn't sound right. Although she could be taking her to one of those clinics that places like CVS has.
Surprised she's up so early on a Sunday-and already twittering away. She has a sick child, but yet she must get on twitter. Her priorities are sure screwed up.
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Don't know about her pediatrician, but my son and daughter-in-law's ped has Sunday hours for urgent care and the occasional well-visit for vaccines. It's great for working parents.
Windy City Gal said... 59
Re: the chicken. There is a photo of ONE box "Bell & Evans" and a food saver on Twitter. I do not have the link but it's easy to find. They do not have a factory store but you can purchase their organic chicken,etc. at Giant and Whole Foods was/is having a one day sale. Some grocery stores will order large quantities for you but there is not, to my knowledge, a discount.
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Actually, they do have an outlet store not too far from Kate's home - it's in Fredericksburg, PA
Bell & Evans Retail Outlet - Fredericksburg
154 West Main St.
Fredericksburg, PA 17026
717-865-1122
Cathyn - re: Mady in commercials. I wouldn't worry about it. First, Kate's eeputation precedes her and no one will want to work with Mady if it means working with Kate. Second, I love Mady's fire and spirit but I'm not sure she'd make it as a child actor. There is a certain amount of flexibility a child actor needs and from what I've seen on the show, Mady doesn't have that.Mady likes things to go her way, like most kids, and has a fit when they don't. Again, production people talk and Mady's own behavior will precede her.
So Kate might try to get her into commercials, but as someone else commented already, she doesn't have the same training most kid actors do and her industry connections probably aren't strong enough to compensate for Stage Mom Kate.
Persoective: Kate says a lot of stuff and throws out a lot of ideas. Most never go anywhere. So think first before you decide how much emotional energy to invest into her tweets and comments. Because Kate is a psychic vampire and can drain you dry.
Aggiemom - "The only two things keeping her name out there are Gather and Twitter."
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Amen sistah! And Gather gets the majority of their post topics from discussions that are had here on this board.
They're cheap ways for her to and stay relevant.
Ex Nurse said... 28
Looks like Kate is taking the kids to Peru:
angieefiorella @Kateplusmy8 hey kate! Why dont you come to Cusco - Perú with your beautiful kids! Im sure you guys will enjoy it! :) Its an invitation
about 6 hours ago in reply to Kateplusmy8
angieefiorella “@Kateplusmy8: @angieefiorella would LOVE to!” ITS OFFICIAL :) my family has a house in Cusco so you can stay there if u want! :)
about 5 hours ago
If you're basing your conclusion on the "ITS OFFICIAL" that is what angiee tweeted, not Kate. Angiee put quotation marks around what Kate tweeted. Kate did not tweet that it's official. She merely tweeted she would love to. She says that about anywhere.
"....headed back home w/ my hannah&her double ear infections...quick stop at pharmacy 1st &we will b all fixed up!All's well that ends well.."
"my" hannah-"we" will be all fixed up-. Her child is sick and it's still about her. And why is she tweeting about it? Pay attention to your sick child, Kate, and forget about your tweeties for once.
At least Hannah doesn't have to WORK this time when she has double ear infections. She needs to stop chronicling their every sniffle! Enough already!
Still waiting to see if Kate will send a retweet for her fan's(BG) son's birthday. Yesterday, the fan asked for a retweet. Today, she has mentioned twice in tweets to Kate that it is her son's birthday. Now her tweetie friends are wishing her son a Happy Birthdy(one typed it in caps) and including Kate in the tweet.
Yet, Kate keeps twittering away and not saying anything. Since BG apparently no longer the keeper of the address, perhaps she is not "deserving" of a retweet.
And why would a 13 yr old boy want a tweet from Kate?
I'm not sure how "we" is "all about her (Kate)." Is that nit-picky?
Who is staying with the other kids by the way while she's at the pharmacy with Hannah???
RT @laurahask @Kateplusmy8 LOVE the photos you post. 8 happy kids and a dedicated runner = inspirational!How do you do it?! DETERMINATION!:) 35 minutes ago
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These people really have to be joking with all this "how do you do it???" crap. Really??? SHEEPLE SHE DOESN't WORK. SHE SITS ON HER ASS ALL DAY AND COLLECTS HER CHILD SUPPORT CHECKS AND TAKES MONEY OUT OF THE CHILDREN"S COLLEGE FUNDS! You'd be able to do it too if you have next to no obligations too and someone else paying your way.
I sometimes wonder if there is some kind of $ involved with celebs and online rags...first, she was on RadarOnline..then for whatever reason, that just stopped cold turkey, and Gather picked up the baton.
What I find so ironic is that Kate doesn't want to get a 'mediocre" job..fact is, she isn't QUALIFIED for even that, imo.
If her fans want to argue the point, well, in the beginning, she didn't 'notice other people..then when her show was on the rocks, she joined twitter world to keep her unfulfilled frumpy followers and a bunch of low self esteemed teenagers trying to keep her relevant.
If Gather would drop her and there was no such thing as twitter, this chick would be GONE.
Well, guess I answered my earlier post..if she took one kid to the dr., then she still has household help.
Out of one side of your mouth she needs to shut up about every detail of the kid's lives, then out of the other side you want to know who took care of the other kids while she took Hannah to the doctor and pharmacy. If she would've said that she got someone to stay at the house with the other kids you would be up in arms that she's putting them in danger, that some deranged lunatic would go over and do God knows what to the kids. Since she said nothing you find the need to speculate.
Lauren, I don't personally care who is with the kids but my whole POINT is that if she is twitting about being out with one kid, it leaves the others extremely vulnerable and leaves you wondering if they are alone while she's tweeting her GPS locations.
If she never twatted in the first place about where she is, who she is with, and all these details about the kids, this would not be a concern. This is Kate's fault, not ours.
Again, twatting to the world that she's left the kids home alone. The world does NOT need to know they're sick or indeed anything personal about them. And I'm quite sure nobody is devasted about not going to church. As if they go. The begging for birthday tweets is insane.
Well, guess I answered my earlier post..if she took one kid to the dr., then she still has household help.
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Judging by how crazy these kids are obviously making her lately, I kind of question if she does have help anymore. It seems to me maybe the help disappeared after the first of the year, about when Kate started getting very frazzled and talking about taking care of the kids a lot more. Because if the woman cuts back, the first thing she'll cut back is something for the kids.
silimom said... 66
Aggiemom - "The only two things keeping her name out there are Gather and Twitter."
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Amen sistah! And Gather gets the majority of their post topics from discussions that are had here on this board.
They're cheap ways for her to and stay relevant.
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I only partially agree with the above. If Gather is getting their information from this blog, then this blog is involved in keeping Kate relevant. No ifs, and or buts about it. And I won’t be arguing this issue with anyone.
When I’m about to do an article for Gather, I USUALLY do NOT read here (there have been a couple of exceptions) or the tweets while I’m writing in an attempt to say something original instead of something I read elsewhere.
However, since Kate IS fading away, I am too. I certainly don’t want to be in any way responsible for the small amount of relevancy she has left. And Kate is so boring. Actually, Kate’s odd fans are more interesting to me these days.
If something earth shattering happens I may want to mention it though. Thanks to all for reading and commenting on my articles. It was fun.
Sue don't go your articles are always so great!
Sue, we love ya! I do hope that there is nothing newsworthy about kHate, but if that's the case - I will miss your writing.
Well, to be totally snarky, she didn't give the 'twitter name ' shout-out for the dr and pharmacy, so I guess she had to pay for those services.
:)
Re Mady being in show business...I remember an episode when Kate took C &M to a talent agent. Needless to say it didn't go anywhere especially when Kate found out she'd have to relinquish control. Lots of kids have talent and most in the business have been working at it for years. Not to knock the kids but none of them showed any real talent during the show and as sillymom said unthread, M likes things to go her way and when they don't she acts just like Kate. I guess M is Kate's Baby June. Let me entertain you... One last thing Kate, I don't think you're going to have any talent scouts or agents come to M's show just because you tweeted it. Speaking of Kevin Costner movies I guess Kate believes that if she tweets it they will come or it will happen.
I don't believe Gather gets their info from this blog..it gets the info from Kate's twitter and her blog.
I wasn't duped by Kate and Jon when their show started; I was busy raising my own kids and had no desire to watch their parental struggles as well. My mom watched it though, and in turn, got my now 13 yr old twins involved with watching it, so when it was on every afternoon, I would catch a word here and there, or one of my twins would say, oh mom, you got to watch this mom, she is so mean to her kids... I did start watching it right before the divorce to see what fame and fortune and done to this family.
Now, I knew what I was watching all along...of you bloggers that watched it from the beginning, what was the one event that changed your thinking about Kate? what turned the tide for you?
And secondly, in your opinion, what is the meanest and/or cruelest thing you have seen Kate do?
"Because if the woman cuts back, the first thing she'll cut back is something for the kids."
I would agree, admin, except if Kate cuts back on babysitting it creates a burden for her to have to care for them. I think she would keep up with childcare just to free herself of the responsibility.
what was the one event that changed your thinking about Kate? what turned the tide for you?
For me it was the Toys R Us scene. I could not believe anyone had the audacity to treat their spouse like that.
It's really been fun writing and seeing my articles appreciated, especially if I made someone laugh. But seriously and honestly, ummm, she's boring the heck out of me. Freeze wrapping slaughtered animals hasn't sparked my interest.
Of course if she goes to Peru, for example, which I don't think is happening, I bet there would be lots to write about. Maybe a donkey ride through the Andes? Oh yeah, I'd love to see that.
I'll keep my eyes open during her struggle to figure out if she can be a full time mom. She's working hard to convince herself right now.
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I can't understand how a psychiatrist, like Dr. Drew can sit with Kate and not challenge her on this stuff. I guess this man has limited diagnostic ability if he can sit on a couch with the biggest narcissistic child exploiter you could find and not call her out on any of this. If anything, Dr. Drew is just another enabler to Kate, the fame whore.
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Dr Drew is NOT a psychiatrist although he wants to believe it and have everyone else believe it! He has an MD and is certified in internal medicine. He has (supposedly - he's a big phony liar, too) worked with addicts and he thinks he's a specialist. He is nothing more than an attention seeking fame whore. I don't doubt for a minute that he will have his head up Kate's a$$ the entire time he is talking to her. He and his wife have triplets - I don't know if he can't get past his identification with her because of this fact. All I can say is, he will do ANYTHING for ratings.
I swear that Dr. Drew has called Kate a narcissist before. Like outright said it. Maybe someone can find the clip. But naturally he won't talk to her about that, the mental illness that is the root of her problem, when he's holding her hand and letting her cry his ratings up.
Seems like it was on The View once Dr. Drew describe Kate as a narcissist, but I could be wrong. Dr.D is so wishy-washy and always tends to flop back & forth about anyone.
Out of one side of your mouth she needs to shut up about every detail of the kid's lives, then out of the other side you want to know who took care of the other kids while she took Hannah to the doctor and pharmacy. If she would've said that she got someone to stay at the house with the other kids you would be up in arms that she's putting them in danger, that some deranged lunatic would go over and do God knows what to the kids. Since she said nothing you find the need to speculate.
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Lauren,
We are concerned about the kids, not talking out of both sides of our mouth.
The concern was; why the hell is Grifty posing about Hannah having a double ear infection? What was her reasoning behind that? The kids have NO privacy whatsoever, and for growing kids who are at the age when bullying starts, that is a huge concern for us. She has 2 pre-teen girls...we all know what happens when girls hit the teenage years..two years down the road, if Grifty is still trying to hang onto her 1/2 a second of fame, will she post that the girls got their first period?
Sorry to be crude, but I woldn't put it past her.
As for the "other side of her mouth" comment, the other concern was the other 7 kids possibly being home alone. What if someone broke in? A fire started? One of the "little kids" started to choke? Grifty the Idiot tweeted when she was apparently out with just Hannah...That to me is a red flag that the kids are at home, maybe with Skeve (the cheating hubby to Gina and fake stepdad to the kids, and I personally get the willys when I think of him alone with the kids....)
Debbi, exactly. I don't care who is watching the kids, did I demand a name? I could care less. I do care that Kate is tweeting very sensitive and yes, even dangerous information about them. And I do want her to think about this, though she never will.
Sue, don't go!
Did anyone catch that on her tweet about her wonderful running self, and doing it all (answering a question), she added Runner's World at the end? She already had her article - why does she keep doing that?
what was the one event that changed your thinking about Kate? what turned the tide for you?
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I never watched the show until Jon was "caught" leaving the nightclub in the white car. My local paper (The Washington Post) had an article suggesting new show titles if they divorce..one was "The Shaming of the Shrew"...
After that I watched old eps on youtube and was stunned...Toys R Us, Crayola, Gumgate, Baby on the LR floor gate, White Throne, Solar Panels, Mine all Mine, and, of course, the RV ep..too many other examples..
Just like the show Hoarders makes me feel like a better homemaker, Grifty makes me feel like the best mom and wife on the planet...
aggiemom09121416 said...
If Gather would drop her and there was no such thing as twitter, this chick would be GONE.
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what was the one event that changed your thinking about Kate? what turned the tide for you?
And secondly, in your opinion, what is the meanest and/or cruelest thing you have seen Kate do?
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You want Gather and Twitter to stop talking about Kate, yet you are asking for a discussion about Kate to be held here? That’s very inconsistent. It's not possible for Kate's relevancy to disappear on Gather and Twitter but to stay alive here. Which do you really want?
I ask those questions due to her taking advantage of church members, family, friends, and people she doesn't even know.
I ask because it is how we LEARN. How to suspect abuse, how to suspect con artists.
I ask because for those that were duped in the first place, it is only fair that you now let them express their anger and resentment.
I ask because their precious children were put on display for entertainment purposes.
I ask because, if something can be learned from this, it has to be discussed and analyzed. Perhaps from discussing it, children will be allowed to be kids, and not entertainment fodder and a paycheck for their grifting parents.
I wasn't really all that crazy about Kate from the first few specials like the way she talked to the kids and to Jon and the way she left passive aggressive notes around the house. But I was willing to overlook it because she had eight little kids on her plate and was stressed.
She did a few other things in subsequent episodes that really left a sour taste in my mouth, like the Toys R Us episode, the infamous take the stick out thing that was ALL Jon's fault without her taking an ounce of responsibility for pushing him to that point. But it wasn't until the Collin constipation episode I was done with giving her anymore chances. That was the turning point for me.
PJ's momma said... 93
Sue, don't go!
Did anyone catch that on her tweet about her wonderful running self, and doing it all (answering a question), she added Runner's World at the end? She already had her article - why does she keep doing that?
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When the "I'm A Runner" column featured her she tweeted that she was hoping to be on the cover and have an article someday. It's not going to happen though. There was quite a backlash from the readers after the "I'm A Runner" article was published.
Admin.,
Is it safe to come out to play to-day? Last night felt like another of those late night drive-bys.
I remember Dr. Drew saying "don't get me started on her," when he had that bounty hunter and another ?lawyer on those shows during the Casey Anthony trial.They were talking about narc. moms and wondering if Casey was one or not.
One of them mentioned Kate, but yet when she was on the show, Drew was holding her hand.He disgusts me.He's all about the ratings.
See you all to-morrow, I hope.Headed out for tests now.
She already had her article - why does she keep doing that?
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Simple. Because she is a bottomless pit who NEVER feels satisfied. She can't have a dozen cupcakes she wants 10 dozen. She can't have a few trips a year she wants a trip every other weekend. There is never enough money. There is never enough land. There is never enough house. She can't take one hairstyle freebie she wants to back back every other month. She can't accept 10 freebies she wants 10,000. So it follows she can't be content with a nice little write up in a huge athletic magazine, she wants the cover.
I actually do feel sorry for her in that I'm sort she can't feel fulfilled and satisfied by what would satisfy just fine most people. I don't know what caused this or why she is like this, but I imagine it's a similar personality to people with addictions who need more and more to feel the same.
Debbi #91 That is my point, we have absolutely no idea who was with the other kids, which is how it should be. I agree that it's ridiculous that she felt the need to tweet about Hannah's dr appt. But I also don't understand why everyone jumps to these dire conclusions that the others are home alone and something terrible is going to happen to one of them. Or that Steve is with them and and molesting them. I know you didn't outright say that, but that's what I assume you mean about it giving you the willys.
I have been reading here for a long time and occasionally post. There are times that I don't agree with what other posters say, but don't bother to comment because it's not worth the grief I would get for daring to have a different opinion. I'm not a troll nor a fan of Kate's. I found this blog after watching the Toys R Us episode and being appalled at her behavior toward Jon. Actually I originally started reading at GWOP and eventually ended up enjoying this blog more.
#95 Kate doesnt rate - I agree. I really do enjoy this blog, but we can't have it both ways.
We want her to fade into obscurity, yet we keep on scrutinizing every move she makes. I say "we" even though I don't post much. But I do read here nearly every day and agree more than not with everyone's observations and opinions. Just don't post because someone else has already said what I was thinking.
what was the one event that changed your thinking about Kate? what turned the tide for you?
For me, it was definitely when she put her sick child on the laundry floor and shut the door. Absolutely no excuse for that. To me, it was child abuse, plain and simple.
Lauren said...
#95 Kate doesnt rate - I agree. I really do enjoy this blog, but we can't have it both ways.
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Thanks. We are in the minority. :S
It is the narcissistic, sense of entitlement & controlling personality and passive/aggressive behavior that comes through almost every time Kate opens her mouth. Sorry, but it is what it is. Some readily see it and say so, Some enable it, and some just turn away. Above all else, it's the way a mother treats her children. I don't think even Kate knows who Kate is. Just an empty vessel that can never be filled or satisfied.
Just weighing in. IMO, only Kate can keep Kate relevant. She has to have a talent, skill, something to offer to the entertainment/media industry to even begin to get anyone to knock on her door. She doesn't have it and she's not willing to work for it. She's just getting by right now and seems to be doing as little as possible.
General public interest is fickle and will move on to the next up and coming celeb in a heartbeat. Out of the entire population how many people really know or care about KG anymore? The kids are growing and have their own interests. I think, except maybe for some bit jobs, Kate's day in the limelight is basically over. JMO.
Lauren 101- I really do enjoy this blog, but we can't have it both ways.
We want her to fade into obscurity, yet we keep on scrutinizing every move she makes. I say "we" even though I don't post much. But I do read here nearly every day and agree more than not with everyone's observations and opinions. Just don't post because someone else has already said what I was thinking. ----
Lauren- I agree quite the quandry- give her attention or not. It seems since her show ended in Sept '11, and since she joined twitter and has her own blog, she is using more and more desperate measures to get her "grifting" done which is alarming to many. More alarming is that people respond to grifting requests, which is astounding and unbelievable at the same time. Kate has millions yet is still grifting after 8 years, so yes, we have entered a new era where an 8 year grifter, who got everything she wanted (see lists above) and more paid for by others, is now expanding her grifting on a different level. She really is a shameless piece of work. The twitter and blog she chooses to post on, continue to show her endless narcism/ grifting perhaps now more than ever. And most believe it is time for her to support her kids once and for all after all she has been given over 8 years. Much more than most will get in 100 lifetimes.
Name one example of a blog or twitter account that kept a celeb relevant. What does that even mean? No offense but you give this blog way too much credit.
Don't you think Kate would twitter all her delusions even if she only had six followers? Kate and only Kate will go away when Kate and only Kate wants to. Shutting down this blog or twitter will do nothing to affect when and if she ever decides to go away.
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PJ's momma said... 93
Sue, don't go!
Did anyone catch that on her tweet about her wonderful running self, and doing it all (answering a question), she added Runner's World at the end? She already had her article - why does she keep doing that?
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Because she is a bottlemless pit of need who constantly needs affirmation. And grifting, as she has been groomed to believe she is entitled to each and every "freebie" in life because she had 8 kids. (Thanks TLC). She also took advantage EVERY step of the way with TLC, fans, church, and anyone else who would listen- thus the entitlement, which continues to this day. Which is why many of us have not stopped posting, as she is a very disturbing, disgusting opportunist. Plain and simple. Pay your own way Kate and get a job to support your kids. I have no tolerance for anyone who thinks the world owes them.
Tweedle said
If you're basing your conclusion on the "ITS OFFICIAL" that is what angiee tweeted, not Kate. Angiee put quotation marks around what Kate tweeted. Kate did not tweet that it's official. She merely tweeted she would love to. She says that about anywhere
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I get that--just put that line in as an opening to the tweets. I read back on the threads, and every other tweet on that person's twitter is in Spanish. She was saying that the offer to stay at family house is official. Obviously, no details were discussed, so it is far from a done deal.
I didn't expect that anyone would take me so literally. Lesson learned, but, the condescension is not appreciated. If we can generate hundreds of tweets about dentist offices and chicken, I thought that this would be of interest. Nobody has to respond to any tweet if they think it is stupid or not of interest.
Bottomless- correcting my spelling... Yikes :)
Ex Nurse, ignore that.
If someone were just tweeting Kate about vacation homes and she ignored it, it's one thing. But Kate responded! And you brought it to our intention. Perfectly relevant. Who knows if she'll ever go through with it but she is opening the door. If she had zero interest in grifting more vacations from good people she would have ignored that tweet in the first place. She chose not to, so we're going to discuss it.
I don't know if Dr. Drew ever said anything about Kate directly. However, I definitely heard him make a comment one time on a show stating that people on reality shows tend to have narcissist personalities.
G I also have zero tolerance for those who think the world owes them and that is Kate to a T.
It's like that famous Kennedy quote ask not what your country can do for you ask what you can do for your country. Maybe a bit cheesy but it's a good philosophy. Stop looking to others and help YOURSELF. Kate has been given so much, why is she not asking herself what SHE can do for others in light of her position and circumstances. No, it is forever, what can the world do for me, me and by the way, me.
I like celebrities who are so genuinely happy to be famous BECAUSE it gives them so many opportunities to do things for others. You can't fake that emotion. I have never once felt that vibe from Kate.
What is so anxious to get set up and learn?
DebbieDowner4 said... 94
what was the one event that changed your thinking about Kate? what turned the tide for you?
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The fact that she sent a demo tape to TLC and God knows who else before the tups were born, requested the state pay for a nurse an extra year, even though the kids were healthy, she refused to use money Jon's dad has left them to pay for anything, as that was "THEIR MONEY" - need I say more? The fact that she thought they should not have to pay for anything for the kids because she had tups, and endlessly grifted, or had Jon grift to pay every single bill, including their mortgage, utilities, and EVERY other thing under the sun.
Honestly, this woman got everything under the sun, from huge donations/freebies yet was IT WAS NEVER ENOUGH. She still took huge amounts of money from churches, fans, whoever would give it to her. Problem is the more she got, the more she wanted. She is a bottomless pit, who will never be happy, and will look at what she doesn't have, as opposed to all of the millions she has been given. You can't fix someone like this. Now she has moved on to the Fan base, to fix things for her so she doesn't have to spend HER money. Sick.
Pity Party said... 115
What is so anxious to get set up and learn?
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I remember Milo saying that she was sending Kate some "educational" materials. Perhaps she's referring to that.
Speaking of Milo, she tweeted:
@Kateplusmy8 Oh my....we do need 2sit & chat girlfriend! So sorry U are THAT busy! LOL We need 2get U some help! :)
SIT AND CHAT? GIRLFRIEND? Kate and Milo! Sue Buddy was right - these fans are more interesting than Kate. It's a psychological study into obsession and stupidity.
Kate needs help? Yep, she got that one right! Help from a professional therapist!
If someone were just tweeting Kate about vacation homes and she ignored it, it's one thing. But Kate responded! And you brought it to our intention. Perfectly relevant. Who knows if she'll ever go through with it but she is opening the door. If she had zero interest in grifting more vacations from good people she would have ignored that tweet in the first place. She chose not to, so we're going to discuss it.
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I can't see Kate dragging eight children to Peru unless there's something in it for her. If it's not being filmed, and she's not the center of attention (like the cruise and her previous vacations, appearances, Australia, Derby), why would she go? Even if someone offered her a house there, how does Kate know that it would meet her standards? Isn't this a stranger who offered this? Did she offer free air fare as well?
Oh boy, didn't mean to stir up the hornets nest! Sue, I think your posts are very interesting and as others said I hope you continue to post about Kate as long as there's a need.
There are two bloggers on Gather, however, (Effie Orfanides, Kimberly Ripley) who I feel have pulled directly from here and other sites (fan and non fan) in their discussions. In addition, I have observed that most of the Gather blog posts don't show up until a topic has been discussed here or elsewhere. However, I also acknowledge that usually they involve something Kate has tweeted or announced on her website. It's more the timing that makes me go "hmmm". Kate tweets, it's discussed on this level of blog and then Gather or other gossip sites pick it up and run with it.
Ultimately, it's up to each individual to decide whether their continued participation in the Kate Gosselin discussion is helping to keep her relevant or not. I want to make it perfectly clear I am not saying don't post here or in any way telling anybody what to do. I am simply posting my observations and opinions and you can respectfully agree or disagree. For the record, I obviously have no issue with joining in and commenting and as many know I post here fairly regularly. There are times the discussion veers off into ad hominium attacks that do not add any value, in my opinion, to the conversation and that can be frustrating because I really enjoy the thoughts and ideas exchanged on this blog.
So, Admin, I apologize if my initial comment has taken away from the original discussion on the Duggars.
I can't see Kate dragging eight children to Peru unless there's something in it for her. If it's not being filmed, and she's not the center of attention (like the cruise and her previous vacations, appearances, Australia, Derby), why would she go?
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Why does Kate take any freebie? She would take a pair of crutches even if she hand no problems walking.
Once she did think about the uncertainties of not knowing if it were up to her standards she would pass, but her gut reaction whenever she sees something free is always I'M THERE! Or at least, tell me more! She is pathetic.
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Admin.,
Is it safe to come out to play to-day? Last night felt like another of those late night drive-bys.
I remember Dr. Drew saying "don't get me started on her," when he had that bounty hunter and another ?lawyer on those shows during the Casey Anthony trial.They were talking about narc. moms and wondering if Casey was one or not.
One of them mentioned Kate, but yet when she was on the show, Drew was holding her hand.He disgusts me.He's all about the ratings.
See you all to-morrow, I hope.Headed out for tests now.
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This absolutely kills me! Al Roker skewered Heidi and Spencer on the Today show. Yes, Speidi called the paps and created fake drama, but they are two consenting adults, involving no one else but themselves in their facade. Didn't the View treat Denise Richards harshly? Seriously, Denise could throw Charlie under the bus and probably no one would blame her. But as far as I know, she has publicly always taken the high road with Charlie's behavior.
I will never for the life of me understand why these interviewers, some who have publicly snickered or made offhand comments about Kate, get her on their show, hold her hand (literally) and kiss her ass! Is it possible that Julie C.M. gets it written in stone that Kate will only appear if it's a softball/ sympathetic interview? Is it made clear that any question that is challenging or not flattering of Kate will cause her to pull her mic off and leave? I just dont get it.....
Is it possible that Julie C.M. gets it written in stone that Kate will only appear if it's a softball/ sympathetic interview? Is it made clear that any question that is challenging or not flattering of Kate will cause her to pull her mic off and leave? I just dont get it.....
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It's possible she demands pre-approved questions. Remember WGN tried to sort of call her out once? Maybe she thought they were too small time to bother so didn't do pre-approved. Whoops. And Joy Behar pushes her a bit but I think Joy is too big for Kate to complain. Other than that most people kiss butt--it could be because of pre-approved questions.
The problem with pre-approved questions is that no one big will ever want to interview you. Reputable news shows won't stand for that.
Actually come to think of it when I was trying to get a press pass for Kate's book signing first I was told only a few approved outlets would be allowed in, then they called back later and said Kate had said no interviews period no questions period, only photographs. Unless you were there as a professional photographer you couldn't get a press pass.
I'm guessing because it wasn't enough time for her to gather her pre-approved questions. It was done at the last minute.
By the way, that just goes to Kate's utter stupidity when it comes to handling her brand. When you have journalists wanting to interview you at the book signing the last thing you do is tell them NO! That's just DUMB. A photo is one thing but a story and interview could make it into the tabs if you say something newsworthy. Because of her own paranoia about what she will be asked and how she can handle it, she has missed no doubt countless opportunities to further herself.
Does anyone think Kate is creating episodes of K+8 in her head? Hannah had double ear infections in an episode of JK8 (although that didn't stop them from filming her). They bought a ridiculous amount of beef in another episode, chicken this weekend. Heart shaped overkill for Vakentines Day. It's like she's pretending they're still living what they pretended to live on their reality show.
Why does Kate take any freebie? She would take a pair of crutches even if she hand no problems walking.
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True, but taking a pair of crutches or a coffeemaker is different from getting ready for a trip to South America, especially if there's nothing in it for her. She'd have to pay for more than one sitter or nanny, plus Steve, plus airfare, not to mention the hassle of it all. She didn't even rent the beach house last year because she'd have to pay for it herself. Just the offer of a rental house in Peru isn't going to do it - not when she stops and thinks about all the trouble it will be FOR her and not get any media attention out of it.
If it had been any other child than Hannah do you think she would have rushed out on a Sunday morning? We've seen how she ignores illness in the others. Isn't Jon the one who usually takes the kids to the doc? And did Hannah's double ear infection just suddenly flare up? It's not like Kate doesn't have the time to take her to the doctor.
Lauren,
Yes, I would be happy if tomorrow Grifty sent out a tweet saying she will close twitter, stop chasing a pipedream of a talk show or future in tv, and that she is going to focus on raising her kids and living a private life. No flip-flopping there.
However, since we all know that there is a better chance of the moon actually being made of cheese, that will never happen. She is addicted to the spotlight. There is a clip of her dressed up in a black Ann Klein dress to go food shopping. She wears hooker heels, clothes that are way to inappropriate for a almost 37 year old "mother" of 8 kids..etc, to attract attention. One look at the tin foil dress tells you that.
The purpose of the blog (apologies Admin if I'm stepping on your toes) is to try to call attention to the Gosselin kids, who never had a choice to be raised in this situation. They never had a chance to say "don't film me on the potty," "don't take a picture of my poop," "don't film me or my sibs taking a shower," and they don't have a choice now to have their so-called "mother" feeding them crap, keeping them in the mindset that they are preschoolers and in high chairs even when the tups were in the FIRST GRADE. We all know the stories of how child stars have it very rough, to say the least, once they grow up - Dana Plato, Gary Coleman, Danny Bonaduce, too many more to count. Those actors may have had a chance to quit shows...MAY have, but the Gosselin kids never had a choice to say no cameras...they were filmed from before birth. I really worry for them growing up. Millions of strangers know all about them - every detail. thats creepy.
We are also concerned about the FACT that a man who worked on the show is a sex offender, the FACT that he had unrestricted access to countless hours of the Gosselin (and other) kids, and the very real POSSIBILITY that he has done something with said images - sell them to other pedos, sold the unedited vids to black market child porno companies, whatever those prevs do. The images such as potty training, showers, dressings, that the kids never had a chance or choice to say "no" to.
Great job, Kate! You pimped out your kids for money and fame. hope it was worth it.
Sherry, I agree with you, I don't think she will ultimately go. I don't disagree!
But the fact of the matter is she tweeted the person back, she showed interest. Her ears perk up when she hears freebie and her gut reaction is to tweet back. Once she thinks a bit she probably comes to her senses about things that are impractical.
Katie Cry-duh said... 124
Does anyone think Kate is creating episodes of K+8 in her head? Hannah had double ear infections in an episode of JK8 (although that didn't stop them from filming her). They bought a ridiculous amount of beef in another episode, chicken this weekend. Heart shaped overkill for Vakentines Day. It's like she's pretending they're still living what they pretended to live on their reality show.
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This is downright CREEPY. But, I think you are absolutely right. She can't have the show anymore but twitter is the next best thing, she creates little "episodes" then gets everyone discussing. She is ramping things up including more and more pics of the kids, video is coming next I guarantee it.
Poor Hannah. Ear infections are so painful. Those kids seem to have a lot of them. I wonder why they, or at least some of them, haven't had ear tubes.
I'm no Dr. Drew fan, and no, he isn't a psychiatrist (He's board certified in Internal Medicine and in Addictionology), but he is a professor of clinical psychiatry at the USC school of medicine. I think it's a bit premature to criticize his behavior and treatment of Kate when the show hasn't even aired yet. All we've seen are a couple of short clips that are a very small part of a 1/2 hour show. Let's wait to see what actually happens before we rush to judgment.
Aggiemom -- I didn't like Kate from the very first show I saw, "Ten Little Pumpkins", when Kate insisted on spoiling Jon and the kids' fun by insisting on cleaning up "the mess" before they were done carving the pumpkins. Especially since Jon was being very careful and there really was no mess. I kept watching for a couple of seasons because I thought the kids were adorable, because I was rooting for Mady to really take Kate down, and because of the trainwreck factor. I'm not proud of it, but there it is. As far as the cruelest thing I think Kate did? She did a lot of them -- sick Joel alone on the laundry room floor, Collin and his constipation, Collin and and the gum on his bear, denyibng the boys their birthday cupcakes, her contempt for Jon and the constant berating and denigrating and undermining of him -- but I think hands down the worst, most unforgivable thing she did was to lie to the kids and tell them "Mommy and Daddy will always be together" when she'd already made up her mind to end the marriage. As far as I'm concerned, that makes her one of the worst "mothers" around.
Thanks to everyone who provided information on "food saving" and food savers. Silly me, I just use my mediocre freezer when I want to "save" food.
Katie Cry-duh said... 124
Does anyone think Kate is creating episodes of K+8 in her head? Hannah had double ear infections in an episode of JK8 (although that didn't stop them from filming her). They bought a ridiculous amount of beef in another episode, chicken this weekend. Heart shaped overkill for Vakentines Day. It's like she's pretending they're still living what they pretended to live on their reality show.
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Wow, that's really insightful. I think you are absolutely right, Katie Cry-duh.
She's much, much sicker than even I thought. She's trying to relive the glory years because she has no idea who she is, or how to live, now that the cameras are gone.
She's like a twelve-year-old who engages in magical thinking in the belief that doing so will make life what she wants it to be.
Too bad those episodes, and her behavior on and off them, were what made people despise her and killed her fan base.
This woman needs a world of psychiatric help, faster than yesterday.
If anyone is interested in seeing a man who truly appreciates his life, google Nic Vujicic. He was born without arms and legs. You can watch him on YouTube - suggest searching for Nick Vujicic - DVD part 1/11. I'd post a link but for some reason can't do cut and paste here.
One word of caution - he is a Christian minister and he does discuss his faith in his talks. However, I highly encourage you to check him out. His attitude and perspective is truly inspiring and Kate could learn a lot from him.
Katie Cryduh - good call on the mini episodes. I'm surprised she hasn't started producing her own YouTube channel show. I bet you're right, Admin, it's not far away.
Still blown away by Katie Cry-duh said... 124. All Kate can deal with is family life as a series of TV episodes.
She has no idea who the kids are, or how to engage with them, without a reality TV script. Now that that's missing, she is trying to recapture those experiences.
Kate is so hollow inside that she has NO idea who she is, or should be, without a producer to guide her.
Hats off to you, Katie Cry-duh. You've got more insight into Kate than she'll have in a million years.
One shining light: Kate won't be able to pull off You Tube. She has no self-discipline, no willingness to learn, and she will probably get minimal, if any, cooperation from the kids.
It sounds as if she's having enough trouble getting them to pose for "spontaneous" photos. Whatever she manages to video in their home is not likely to win her any fans. Even if she tries.
Creating video episodes takes a lot more work than good old Kate has ever dreamed of doing. TLC put a lot more effort into that show than Kate ever realized, or cared to acknowledge.
Creating video episodes takes a lot more work than good old Kate has ever dreamed of doing. TLC put a lot more effort into that show than Kate ever realized, or cared to acknowledge.
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Yes. She may have tried then quickly got fed up when the kids were uncooperative and producing and editing was harder than she thought. Then I'm surprised she hasn't enlisted a nanny or someone to film and edit little clips for the internet.
Dee I was thinking the exact same thing. She is way too lazy and uninformed to do any videos o. Her own, let alone set up a Youtube channel and post them. Plus, I wonder if that would break some kind of contract they are still under with TLC.
Dee said... 134
Still blown away by Katie Cry-duh said... 124. All Kate can deal with is family life as a series of TV episodes.
She has no idea who the kids are, or how to engage with them, without a reality TV script. Now that that's missing, she is trying to recapture those experiences.
Kate is so hollow inside that she has NO idea who she is, or should be, without a producer to guide her.
Hats off to you, Katie Cry-duh. You've got more insight into Kate than she'll have in a million years. ------------------
Great synopsis. Kate is a creation by TLC, but has no clue what it took to keep her show alive (much deleted film, might I add).
Would be great if she actually got a clue of what a parent actually does....other than the TLC image, but her tweets and blogs clearly show she still has no clue. Sigh... still all about her and what she thinks fans want to hear...sigh again.
Yes TLC may have a period of time they have exclusive rights to film especially if they are dangling the carrot of specials in front of them.
Also, Jon may have been able to require his consent for any video of them to be broadcast except for what has already been filmed for syndication.
This is a double-snort. Ha,haha...
http://s3.amazonaws.com/farmprod.content.xtranormal.com/2012-02-19/publish/005c7f8a-5b3d-11e1-8093-12313d1c822c.mp4
Dee said... 131
Katie Cry-duh said... 124
Does anyone think Kate is creating episodes of K+8 in her head? Hannah had double ear infections in an episode of JK8 (although that didn't stop them from filming her). They bought a ridiculous amount of beef in another episode, chicken this weekend. Heart shaped overkill for Vakentines Day. It's like she's pretending they're still living what they pretended to live on their reality show.
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Wow, that's really insightful. I think you are absolutely right, Katie Cry-duh.
She's much, much sicker than even I thought. She's trying to relive the glory years because she has no idea who she is, or how to live, now that the cameras are gone.
She's like a twelve-year-old who engages in magical thinking in the belief that doing so will make life what she wants it to be.
Too bad those episodes, and her behavior on and off them, were what made people despise her and killed her fan base.
This woman needs a world of psychiatric help, faster than yesterday.
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Great synopsis ladies.
Add to the grifting list:
American Dolls and Show in NY
hockey game
baseball game
Australia/New Zealand
FAO Shwarz
hair extensions
"privacy" trees
dogs
chickens and set up
dancing shoes from Billie Bush or Mario Lopez for the kids (pissed me off - he should give shoes to worthy kids
IPads
free back packs to go along w/ free stride rite shoes
horrible evening gown for DWTS
Emmy Gown
free "body guard"
multiple free birthday parties for kids
free slide for swimming pool
free loan of dancing floor installed at home
ugly dresses from Florida dress shop
Kentucky derby weekend w/ body guard
admission to marathon (paid appearance)
probably lots of free work out gear
working of free treadmill
AB machine that she's never used
I hope someone is keeping a list of all of the grifts, as it is absolutely astounding! Great job to all!
I'd love to see a copy of the list "land" in an IRS office.
Good thinking about the mini-episodes!!! I'd been sensing something of the sort....just because the tweets/blog seem so "off" from what we know to be true....but hadn't really articulated a thought. Good job!
I felt like she was making a movie in her head, but you are quite right...it's mini-episodes.
If someone wants to compile the lists everyone came up with I can do a post on it. Seems like something that should be in essential reading. Especially when someone wants to give her yet another freebie someone more deserving should get.
I forgot to add, we probably don't even know the half of it! That is how Kate rolls- the world owes her- since she has 8 kids. I am one of six kids, so I find her grifting/entitlement disgusting and absurd, since she earned many millions of dollars over the years, but is still acting like the "deprived/needy" mother. What a farce.
One can only presume by the way she is expounding about the books that this is all something very new. We can thank Twitter for the kids getting books - something that was noticeably absent during the show.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 146
If someone wants to compile the lists everyone came up with I can do a post on it. Seems like something that should be in essential reading. Especially when someone wants to give her yet another freebie someone more deserving should get.
February 19, 2012 1:28 PM
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This is a really good idea, Admin. Seeing the lists, so far, has highlighted just how much "stuff" she has glommed onto. Katie Cry-duh, thanks for your "mini-episode" post. If you look at her tweeting in that light, it's shocking and very, very, creepy.
I already mentioned the free dress from Kleinfeld's (What Not to Wear) as well as everything related to their sham wedding/vacation at a 5-star resort. I also mentioned all the boots/hats/western wear before their free trip to the dude ranch. But don't forget they also got special treatment at a Harlem Globetrotters game, as well as the hockey match. That's just TWO sporting events - there are many other non-sporting events where they were given privileged access and loot that nobody else could get.
Yes, Katie Cry-duh, you have provided a breakthrough in to the mind of a reality star has-been. Kate is the ultimate voyeur of her own family experience, blocking scenes, "making memories" and delivering her episodic drivel via Twitter.
I also agree with Admin that she will post more pictures of her kids online as all other avenues of media exposure dry up. My guess is that whatever she does will remain as amateurish as what we have all witnessed to date.
Did anyone list Peace, Love, World for the kids. I see they still wear them.
Sorry, this is just such a little nit-picky thing but I have to finally share. Please forgive me :-)
The phrase is NOT "I could care less".
The correct phrase is "I could not care less".
I'm sure each of us has some little tiny thing we pick on and this is mine. I guess because my mom said this to me all my life. Ugh.
Apologies for presumption to correct grammer. Please don't everyone dump on me!
I'm not going to dump on you.
I see it and hear it practically every day.
It's become the norm even though it is incorrect. No matter how it's explained a lot of people continue to say, "I could care less."
It's here to stay, I'm afraid.
Thanks for the support admin. When I said "lesson learned, I meant that I would choose my words more wisely so that it more accurately represents my thoughts. I had some misgivings about sending out that response, so I was happy for the positive words.
Kate and Dr Drew--
I remember descriptions of one of the times she was a cohost or guest on the view and he came on the same show. I didn't see it, but I remember discussions around his topic, which I believe was about people who were addicted to fame. Maybe I am mixing up different incidents--wouldn't be the first time--but I remember discussion of the irony of his topic on a show she also appeared in.
Would Mady still get only 15% of what they pay if she did any sort of acting or commercials? (the 15% that her mom can use to raise the family after wasting all the other money on herself?) I bet Kate will expect her share as Mady's manager/agent too. She will take every penny she can get her grubby greedy hands on.
I agree I can't see anyone wanting to use her either if they have Kate to deal with.
I have wondered if Effie, on gather.com, was receiving pre-written press releases from Kate's publicist. The articles never introduce a new idea or point of view (like the most excellent Sue Buddy) --it just recycles a tweet and asks some open ended question. Zero literary value, IMO--seems like a shill.
@142 Add the Cutco knife set. It retails for $2500.00 and is engraved with the show name.
It would be nice to put a dollar amount to all of the things she has received for free. Did we add the chicken and coop?
Kate's Cart said... 144
I'd love to see a copy of the list "land" in an IRS office.
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I'll keep my eyes open during her struggle to figure out if she can be a full time mom. She's working hard to convince herself right now.
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I think so, too. That remark about being content and the simple pleasures (mad libs) sounds like she finally paying attention when she is with the kids--although, of course, she still had to tweet about it. Oh well--might be progress--time will tell.
Ex Nurse said... 160
I think so, too. That remark about being content and the simple pleasures (mad libs) sounds like she finally paying attention when she is with the kids--although, of course, she still had to tweet about it. Oh well--might be progress--time will tell.
February 19, 2012 2:33 PM
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It might have indicated progress if she'd Tweeted after the Mad Libs game. Twatting during the game is just her trying to manipulate the general public, as usual.
I'm working on summarizing our grifting list into some type of order by categories.
Is Cirque de Soleil on the list? Wasn't she picked for audience participation?
The gifts that were given to her just because people were swindled and wanted to help her and got nothing in return for it are just gifts and the IRS doesn't care.
The ones that were given in exchange for something like a tweet or product placement on the show or a good word from Kate, Uncle Sam is comin' a knockin'!
I agree I can't see anyone wanting to use her either if they have Kate to deal with.
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Totally agree. Most casting directors of kids want parents who are easy to work with, on time, make sure their kid does everything asked of them, is fully committed to the kid including willing to pack up at a moment's notice. Most states require parents on set all the time and parents are so involved with what their kid does in so many areas. When you hire a kid you're really hiring their parent too. Kate is too much of a handful for Mady to ever get work again.
Kate and only Kate screws everything up all on her own.
Would Mady still get only 15% of what they pay if she did any sort of acting or commercials?
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I would think it depends on what state they film in what laws apply. If they filmed in CA Kate has to set up a Coogan fund for her and provide proof of it and everything.
This too is way more work than Kate really wants to bother with.
It would be nice to see the list divided into categories; such as services (i.e. free hair cuts) vs products (such as kitchen cabinets, knife set, etc). Then maybe a separate one for vacations.
Thanks Admin, I forgot it was according to each state's laws.
Kimmie it doesn't matter if you asked for freebies or not. The point we are making is this woman has had her entire life paid for in freebies. And no, not "everyone" just freeloads no matter if they have a show or not.
Did you forget you're banned?
Just a thought here, since TLC lawyers went to bat for her against Jon, and taking Jon to court over his supposed Breach of Contract etc., costing l'm sure, many thousands of dollars, wouldn't they have also made sure she paid taxes on all the many freebies? Again, taking care of their commodities (children)to enable them to keep filming.
@170 She admitted in one of her books or on the show that TLC bought the rear air for the BBB in exchange for them driving to Disney. I beleive her or Jon stated it was cheaper for TLC to do that than to fly them as a family. Add the EM Tanner things as well. That calender was $150 if you ordered it online.
Don't forget the San Diego portion of the sham wedding trip, lovely suite at the resort. How about Disneyland, and the line-cutting, too.
Yep, would love to see that list fly over to an IRS desk, maybe with pics of Katie picking up all those boxes at the mailbox store, the ones wth the senders oh so clearly marked.
Given that Jon didn't want the kids in the public eye any longer, how can kate continue to speak of them every day..say when they go to school, what they eat for breakfast, what books they read, what activities they do at school, who is sick,etc...and not violate some sort of legal agreement concerning the minor children and publicity? I would think Jon's attys would have placed that in some sort of legal documentation. If it is, why hasn't he said desist, and if it isn't, why isn't he back in court?
Didn't someone donate blinds for the living room at the old house? It was used for a show, and therefore, those blinds would have been given to them. It's not much, but nevertheless, could be included.
Did anyone include all of the birthday parties, decorations, cakes...everything that was filmed? Same with Party City, and the multiple trips there for holiday supplies.
Amazed at all the grifting lists! I knew that would be an interesting topic when I threw it out there.
I am still interested in my other questions...when did the tide turn for you as a viewer against kate, when you realized what a mean, scam artist that she is, and 2) what is the meanest and/or cruelest thing you have seen her do? (the cruelest thing that comes to mind for me is the impacted child seeking relief from Jon, in the back of the van, in a parking lot, all the while mommy of the year twiddles with her hair and whines how hard it is to pick out beds).
kimmie said... 172
there is a difference in perks and grifting. and it wasn't me who was banned.
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When you use 8 children as COMMODITIES from day one to pay YOUR way, as they are your only source of fame and income, the lines become a little more blurred.
Yes it was Kimmie. You're the same Kimmie who never capitalizes anything. You're banned so stop posting here.
they really don't as far as definition and or the irs...perks of a job and grifting are different things all together
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I hope you don't work for the IRS because you're flat out wrong. There is no perks form vs. grifting IRS form. What it turns on is if the "gift" or perk was given in exchange for something. You can bet your bottom dollar a "perk" given to Kate on the show in exchange for advertising or a good word or even so much as a three second shot of the logo (Juicey Juice) is income, taxable, and the IRS wants an accounting of it.
You don't have to pay Kate in cold hard cash. You can pay her in Juicy Juice and Uncle Same treats it all the same.
Kate's Cart said... 142
Add to the grifting list:
That's just scratching the surface.
Remember when Jon and Kate ran sixlittlegosselins.com?
Matching Cribs, diapers, The Big Blue Bus, paid utility bills, free groceries from Sam's Clubs and Giant, $100,000 renovation of their original house, free sitters, free nurse for nearly 2 years at taxpayer expense... the list grows....
How about all the signed photos Kate charged her fans for -$20.00 cash only- at her book signings and speaking engagements? For years.
Someone on Twitter posted that Kate said she uses two chicken breasts for nine people. Where did she say this? Is the number of breasts dropping? I thought it was three chicken breasts, but she didn't say if she was eating with them, or if the three chicken breasts fed eight kids, and this excluded her (she probably just munches on salad).
Lauren Johnson @ljohnson2006 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@joshgroban @kateplusmy8 @lisabloom its my best friend's 26th birthday and she's amazing. Can I get RT's that I'll pass on to her? Thanks!
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Hey look another person got a birthday re-tweet. That poor four year old. Is Kate trying to rub this in or something>?
Chicken Little, it's true. Scarily enough they are not exaggerating. Kate said that she used to serve TWO to three breasts for all of them. She has now increased it to a whopping three to four.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@MiloandJack its already creeping up... 3-4 whole breasts per meal versus 2-3 before...3lb ground beef instead of 2...
I just don't even understand two breasts for 9 people, even large breasts. You can only get five or six decent trips of chicken on each breast. It's craziness.
Matching Cribs, diapers, The Big Blue Bus, paid utility bills, free groceries from Sam's Clubs and Giant, $100,000 renovation of their original house, free sitters, free nurse for nearly 2 years at taxpayer expense... the list grows....
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I seem to remember either Kate or Jon or someone saying that if an outfit was worn in a show, TLC also picked up the bill for the dry-cleaning.
The nurse was funded under Medicaid, and it wasn't for two years. She WANTED it to be for two years, but PA refused. The cut-off was one year.
Given that Jon didn't want the kids in the public eye any longer, how can kate continue to speak of them every day..say when they go to school, what they eat for breakfast, what books they read, what activities they do at school, who is sick,etc...and not violate some sort of legal agreement concerning the minor children and publicity? I would think Jon's attys would have placed that in some sort of legal documentation. If it is, why hasn't he said desist, and if it isn't, why isn't he back in court?
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We've discussed this a lot before. Just because there's an order doesn't mean Kate is following it. I can tell you from experience it can be impossible to deal with a parental alienator like her. You can haul them into court, have the judge scold them, warn them, even sanction them, and they don't stop. In fact every time they get away with violating court orders just makes them feel more powerful. The only person that will stop is the sane parent, if there is one. Jon would go broke dragging her to court over every little tweet. He will only egg her on. I don't blame him for picking his battles and just trying to keep the piece. It's not good for kids to haul their mother into court every week no matter how crazy she is. At some point, you have to deal with the person you picked to mother your children and I think he's accepted that.
Admin - the gifting vs. perks...I think this person was talking about MORALLY (as if Kate has any)...that if someone gives you something (as in a perk), it isn't the same (or as bad) as begging, or deliberately going out of your way to get something for free.
Either way, it doesn't matter. She's still ACCEPTING things for free without any qualms about it.
it's true i never capitalize on blogs, but i have always been respectful and polite when posting my opinions though they differ from most here. i never called names etc so i don't know why i would be banned at all. if you'd care to elaborate i can email you.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 183
Chicken Little, it's true. Scarily enough they are not exaggerating. Kate said that she used to serve TWO to three breasts for all of them. She has now increased it to a whopping three to four.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@MiloandJack its already creeping up... 3-4 whole breasts per meal versus 2-3 before...3lb ground beef instead of 2...
February 19, 2012 4:59 PM
i wonder if she means served in a casserole or stir-fry and not as just a piece of meat?
Kimmie, you were banned because all you do is run you finger down posts and then respond to each one just to be contrary. It is very disruptive. Look it up. There is a difference between disagreeing, and systematically going through post by post to be contrary. Look it up.
You've been banned from other blogs as well, even sheeple ones. That tells me you have no idea how to post on a blog. Goodbye.
that she is, and 2) what is the meanest and/or cruelest thing you have seen her do.
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I didn't watch the show when it was on TV. I did watch it on YouTube (most likely out of order). For me it was "Gumgate", as far as I was concerned it was severe emotional abuse. I was appalled at her casual cruelty, it was then that I realized she was a sadist among other things.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 183
Chicken Little, it's true. Scarily enough they are not exaggerating. Kate said that she used to serve TWO to three breasts for all of them. She has now increased it to a whopping three to four.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
@MiloandJack its already creeping up... 3-4 whole breasts per meal versus 2-3 before...3lb ground beef instead of 2...
February 19, 2012 4:59 PM
agreed
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 187
Admin - the gifting vs. perks...I think this person was talking about MORALLY (as if Kate has any)...that if someone gives you something (as in a perk), it isn't the same (or as bad) as begging, or deliberately going out of your way to get something for free.
February 19, 2012 5:08 PM
yes that is what i mean
Fleecing, Kimmie said the definition is different with the IRS. It's not. The IRS just cares if it's goods or services in exchange for something.
As far as morally, I see nothing wrong with accepting a payment in perks versus taking a check. I would rather take a check, but that's a personal decision. As long as you report it to Uncle Sam. I think the point we're trying to make is her entire life has been funded through perks and freebies, and it's astounding.
It's one thing for a celeb to pick up a perk here or there instead of a paycheck. Fine, most people would do this. It's quite another to expect your entire life to be funded in perks and freebies, which is Kate.
i wonder if she means served in a casserole or stir-fry and not as just a piece of meat?
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What's the difference? That's still only a few bites of chicken for nine people whether you mix it in with stuff or severe it separate.
Thanks Admin, for answering my question. Seems when she started twitter, she was very vague about mentioning the kids..then as time passed, she started mentioning names, then events, then whatever she pleased. She really feels the rules don't apply to her. Gee, I thought she was a 'contract honorer'.
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I have enjoyed reading this blog for the past 6 months or so...I used to frequent daily another blog, but there isn't anyone over there anymore..I miss some of those fine people there, they were so brilliant and funny! Glad I found this one.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 189
Kimmie, you were banned because all you do is run you finger down posts and then respond to each one just to be contrary. It is very disruptive. Look it up. There is a difference between disagreeing, and systematically going through post by post to be contrary. Look it up.
You've been banned from other blogs as well, even sheeple ones. That tells me you have no idea how to post on a blog. Goodbye.
February 19, 2012 5:11 PM
i was trying to keep the comments directed to the correct person...it was before you went to numbers. and i have NEVER been banned from a *sheeple* site EVER. when you mentioned that before i asked and they all told me no.
i have seen pretty bad posts here or what you all call drive-bys and my posts were consistently polite and never mean or nasty.
but it is your blog and i will quit posting if that is what you wish.
Kimmie you were banned from Sage's. Someone showed me the posts.
I will give you another chance here if you capitalize the first word of your sentence, stop italicizing or bolding things unless it's very important, and stop posting just to be contrary.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 196
Kimmie you were banned from Sage's. Someone showed me the posts.
I will give you another chance here if you capitalize the first word of your sentence, stop italicizing or bolding things unless it's very important, and stop posting just to be contrary.
February 19, 2012 5:22 PM
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that wasn't me. ask sage. there was another kimmie but it wasn't me who was banned. bolding and italicizing was to differentiate from what i am copying/pasting and my reply. i'm not trying to be contrary. i'll quit posting.
Was it Hilary Duff whose career pretty much ended because Disney didn't want to deal with her momager any more?
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