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When Kate accused the gracious and talented designer of benefiting from a product featured on Jon and Kate Plus 8, Em Tanner struck back with this: "Just wanted to clarify that Kate recieved MY design for FREE as a gift. Unreal. You are a piece of work!"
Here's a brief summary of Kate's latest Twitter war as we understand it:
Back when Jon and Kate Plus 8 first started, a lovely designer from Tennessee named Em Tanner sent Kate loads of goodies from her collection, including numbered t-shirts for the kids, and a calendar that according to Em's tweets, she gave to Kate for free.
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Em Tanner named the calendar "Kate's calendar," and put it up for sale on her web site. Although other independent sites such as Amazon.com have pointed out that this calendar was seen on Jon and Kate Plus 8, nowhere in the description on Em's official site does she mention the name Gosselin, nor does she even mention it was featured on Jon and Kate Plus 8. The calendar itself is actually called "Kessler Family Calendar."
Yesterday out of nowhere, Kate tweeted that she "thinks" Em Tanner marketed the calendar without her consent, and that it's "sad when people use your name for gain without permission!"
Em Tanner responded that she gave lots of things to Kate for free, she doesn't want Kate's name on a thing and she gets lots of hate mail about her and therefore would not use Kate as a marketing tool.
Kate responded that her name being used is "not legal" and the Em was "confronted" but she "ignored."
Em replied that that's "not how it went and we both know. Good luck to you." She later tweeted she's "actually not bitter at all. Just was floored I was being badmouthed so randomly."
At the end of it all, Kate admitted that she actually "started it" (the twitter war) and that she "didn't mean to cause a war."
Next time, Kate, maybe you should take your serious misappropriation accusations to the court of law, and not to Your Honorable Twitter. I hope you remember to bring your patent on the name "Kate" when you go!
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1342 Newer› Newest»Yes, I totally get that the "customer's" comment was a JOKE!! Any normal person would. I think the BS that has come with associating herself with the almighty kHate is getting to her. NOT an excuse to act sooo unprofessional, but she's starting to crack!
By the way does anyone else think it is wildly inappropriate to announce on twitter that these poor kids had a rough morning?
Wtf.
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That was my first thought when I read that.
I don't blame Cindy for being overwhelmed by the vile back and forth on Twitter but the solution is NOT to engage or you've just become a part of it. It's such a slippery slope and she just slipped off that slope revealing someone's last name. She got fired up and made a BIG slip up that could sadly cost her her job if that person is upset enough to report her.
She needs to not engage with EITHER side. Just use the Twitter account to promote and ignore any venom. Be an ADULT, Cindy.
Oh, if he hadn't let the hair slip, she'd just throw in a Fig & Olive reference later, all casual-like, lol
Done and done said... 18
I personally am not a Jon fan. I think he's probably a fine person and seems to be doing right by the kids but past grifting still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Even without bringing up the post divorce fiasco that temporarily consumed his life he still fleeced church folks alongside his then-wife and nothing will ever change that
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Done and Done, I disagree with one of the things you said.
How your post read to me is that you were upset, for the most part, that Jon and Kate used Christianity and "Christians" for their own gain. If I am wrong please forgive me, I must have read it wrong. If I'm right then I totally understand how you can be offended by this.
I am one who tries to live as I understand what God expects from me. I do my best to not expect others to walk by what light has been given to me, because everyone's level of understanding, whether by their experience, spirituality or educationally, is different.
This is not meant to be a sermon or condemnation to ANYONE. It is only the best way I know to say my thoughts. I admit I am a simple minded person and that gets me in trouble sometimes and I get frustrated.
Anyway, I said all that to say this. As one, who gets frustrated and upset at those who use Christianity for their own gain, I have to remember the whole purpose of Christianity and that is forgiveness.
You mentioned that nothing can change the fact that Jon and Kate used Christianity for self gain, in that you are right. Where I disagree is, forgiveness and love can cover a multitude of sin. Is it easy to practice it? Goodness no, I fight it every day. But if I can remember it, and remember that I and them are human, it can bring a lot of peace. It can take away that, "bad taste in my mouth." Also, sometimes it's not a matter of forgiveness or love. Sometimes it is just about letting it go. Done and Done, I don't believe for one second that you are a bad person for feeling how you feel. Some things are just harder to get over. And then who am I to say you have to get over anything. Right?
Please don't anyone bash me for posting this. It is only my thoughts and I ask NO ONE to agree or believe the way I do. Also, I know that, "I and them" is improper grammar but I'm not good at it anyway. hehe Sorry.
I think the kids had a rough morning because Kate was obviously trying to get on her way to NYC. I think it's totally shitty to take off in the middle of the school week to "attack" a day of pampering and fine dining. Why in the world can't Kate schedule her extravagant trip when the kids are with Jon?
Oh, that's right, she needs a vacation...
I get that kids are a lot to take care of, but she's got help and 2 weekends a month off. And no job to juggle and no commitments with the kids with regards to sports/clubs. I would think that the learning curve for taking care of kids would be rather flat by now, but for Kate, everything continues to be a struggle.
Most moms would say they could do it with one hand tied behind her back by now.
Njay, I am with you.
Here's the difference between Jon and Kate. Jon made amends for what he did. Jon owns what he did, apologize for it, and changed. Why should I deny him the benefit of the doubt and forgiveness? Why should I keep harping on things that happened years ago? Would I want someone to harp on something I did years ago if I was sorry, apologized, and have changed?
Kate is still behaving badly, day after day after day. This is why her past bad behavior is brought up and rightly so, because she hasn't changed. She is still the same Kate grifting away, lying, misrepresenting her situation, even this very morning setting up her Tweeties like she has such a hard busy day ahead of her--only to outed that the hard busy day she speaks about is actually another lavish trip to NYC to get her hair done. When and if Kate ever wants to make amends for all this, my feelings may change.
OMG. That cruise smells of corruption. So much deception & lying. This is not what a typical, happy cruise is about. This is insane.
Cindy Cardella should be ashamed of herself.
Kate, well, we already know that she has no shame. But Cindy, should know better. She is supposedly a professional travel agent.
She is expected to represent her travel agency well. All she has shown is a lack of professionalism and integrity. Is this what her travel agency expects from it's agents?
Good luck to the passengers that paid through the nose for this silly cruise. I don't know what their expectations are, but I can bet people will walk away from this feeling "stiffed", and taken advantage of.
Talk about a ship of fools.
WAKE UP PAYING SHEEP- YOU SHOULD BE VERY CONCERNED.
We all have to learn sometime.
C'est la vie.
I wonder if the "about 30" people going are the total number that paid for the "Kate" part of the cruise, or does it includes family members that are going but not involved in the activities with Kate.
I'm appalled. Went to kate's twitter feed to read. WOW. The "sweet old lady" is posting someones work,phone number, and personal business emails. This is getting dangerous.
Knowing this now, I think this girl whos identity got exposed should pursue action with Cindy's bosses. She has just been exposed on the net by a real stalker.
I normally wouldn't think to call someones boss but if it were me I would. That twitter is scary. Why would anyone engage on there? Protect your family and stay off of it. Sheelple don't convert by logic. Why try? THe only time a sheep converts is when they finally get a personal dealing with kate. THEN they slink away into the night.
Sorry to bring up tweet drama Admin but people need to know what I just saw and be careful
"By the way does anyone else think it is wildly inappropriate to announce on twitter that these poor kids had a rough morning?"
I think it is totally, absolutely inappropriate that there is any mention of the kids at all, especially when she mentions them to show what a rough life she has due to them.
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@CindyCardella @Kateplusmy8 Specifically told u privacy concerns. Spoke to police. If I'm stalked u will be arrested for aiding & abetting.
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At least this woman is smart enough to take steps in protecting herself.
All I can say is that Cindy has officially bitten off more than she can chew.
Whoa. Shit got real on Twitter, with CJ posting the potential cruiser's personal information.
That potential cruiser WAS a Kate fan. WAS because, well, she probably isn't anymore.
I smell serious desperation coming off Cindy about this cruise. Kate is too glib to care, she figures she's got Cindy working on it, so she can just be her usual lazy self and not pay attention.
BUT I'm sensing another Kate Twitter meltdown. Pretty soon, we'll be able to say they only happen on days ending in "y."
Whew. What a debacle.
Also: 30 people? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's 10 more than *I* predicted, anyway. But still pretty pathetic.
Girlfriend cannot carry a cruise. We said so from the start and now it's painfully obvious. She'll never be asked to do this again.
I think we should start a casual betting pool (not for actual material items or money, of course) as to when Miss Thang will deign to get a real paying job. In 2012? Or in 2013? Or will she pull the kids out of private school, send them to live with their dad, and get rid of the house, cars and pampered lifestyle before she gets off her lazy ass and gets a job?
Who is this CJ person? I've been hearing her name alot lately...is she a mental patient?
I agree that Kate should not announce anything about the kids on Twitter, whether it's a bad day, who said or did what, cute sayings, and especially photos. They might as well still be on the show. As for that radio interview, we all know how intrusive that was ! Kids the twins' age especially need their privacy, and the younger ones deserve it too. I wonder if they beg her not to mention anything about them. Or maybe some of them like the 'fame??'
Isn't that 30 people singed up for the regular cruise....but not for the Kate part of the cruise. I bet thats less than 20.
A comment in one of Cindy Cardella's sentences on the email to the potential cruise buyer really got to me: "I can't imagine reading hate tweets day after day."
I can't imagine that either - in fact, if Kate had any sort of self-awareness, perhaps she might wonder why so many people dislike her. Seems like everyday she refers to "haters" in her tweets or has to tell new-comers to "ignore the haters" - it's actually quite pathetic.
First off, using that term "hater" is so incredibly childish. She's a 37 year old women using a term that a 16 year old uses.
Second, if you are using a website that generates so much "hate" - why continue to use it?!
This twitter thing is completely out of control. Yet, she continues to subject herself to it. I'm sure it is exhausting to defend yourself and block people constantly. Seems kind of pointless and futile to me.
I've never seen any other well-known individual (I hesitate to use the term celebrity) engage with the general public as much as Kate does. I'm sure that most celebrities realize that doing so could be dangerous and at the very least it would also be overwhelming.
6. Confidentiality. ASTA members will treat every client transaction confidentially and not disclose any information without permission of the client, unless required by law.
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And she revealed the client's name on a public Twitter forum. Hope that someone is reporting this to the powers-that-be. I wouldn't trust this person to be my travel agent if my life depended on it. It's not a matter of being inept. She's just plain sneaky.
I noticed in the e-mail that she said "shore excursions." More than one with Kate? Are they included in the fee? The listing says shore excursion with Kate, but now it has grown into more than one? How much extra is that going to cost?
This whole thing is so amateurish. I'd never go on a cruise that appears to be so unorganized that the one hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing. I wouldn't trust this travel agent to do anything for me, nor would I believe anything that she says.
Can someone put a link here to Kate's twitter feed. When I go on Twitter proper, I just see her tweets and those connected to her tweets.
Thanks!
I don't know much about twitter but couldn't this CJ person be in trouble for what she is doing? Is the way she is getting this info even legal?
Well, I originally was afraid that following Kate on Twitter was just promoting her and keeping her relevant, but it's actually accelerating her downfall. She has no censor when it comes to her mouth and she is more and more ridiculous as the months fly by.
Dallas Lady said... 15
Also: 30 people? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
That's 10 more than *I* predicted, anyway. But still pretty pathetic.
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Especially since I was told they were expecting somewhere around 200! When I called way back when this cruise was announced, I asked specific questions. Answers were evasive. I knew nothing about this Cindy person then, but now I see why I couldn't get definite answers as to extra fees, what's included, the charity, etc.
I'm confused. I thought Cindy posted the real name. Are you guys saying CJ, the psycho, then posted the phone numbers? Wow!
I think that 30 passengers is the total number who have booked through Cindy. And of that, I think perhaps 10-12 are paying the Kate rate. Again, I base this estimate just on what's been out there on Twitter.
I also think that "Live One" was the real deal, and Cindy blew it with her big time. She has only been on Twitter a couple of weeks and said she signed up specifically as a Kate fan. And she was respectful to Kate all along.
Admin is 100% right--Cindy should ONLY have used Twitter to promote and NEVER engaged anyone. If it were me, I wouldn't hesitate to contact everyone involved in oversight of travel agencies. This is unacceptable.
Cindy doesn't know any more about CJ than what CJ has told her. If she spent any time on Kate blogs or viewing her twitter feed, she'd see what so many others have seen. A person who thinks she is extremely clever and uses the internet to intimidate and threaten people who don't agree with her. I guess Kate is fortunate she's a "fan." If she weren't, I believe she would be up there with the very worst of the "haters" who occupy Kate's twitter.
Tucker's Mom, here's the feed that shows what Kate says and who (if anyone) she is responding to said:
http://twitiq.com/kateplusmy8
Here's the link for what everyone says on her feed:
http://www.twazzup.com/?q=kateplusmy8
I'm appalled. Went to kate's twitter feed to read. WOW. The "sweet old lady" is posting someones work,phone number, and personal business emails. This is getting dangerous.
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Where is this being posted?
If Cindy uses "Kate logic" then the person wasn't technically a client, since she never booked the cruise? So slander the woman! Yay!
Milo decided that the woman was a "hater" just trying to trick cruise information out of Cindy. Now, in what universe does a potential client have to TRICK a travel agent to find out pertinent information about a cruise they are interested in purchasing? Uh, in KateVerse, apparently.
I'm a little lost....if these people are Kate fans...why would this CJ person harass them? Am I missing something? Is this person just nuts?
Kate where are all your loving and adoring fans hmm.?
You only got 30 people to sign up for your lame cruise seems like you can't even drawn your.
Own fans into coming to spend time with you for seven days what a shame.
Kat @ 30:
Yes, she's nuts. Read her Twitter feed. She's edging toward dangerous territory. If Cindy had read her Tweets she might be booking a new customer right now, instead of losing a reservation over CJ.
Although this has to do with a blog rather than twitter it does have to do with a posters private information.
There was a great blog that was very active when the Roloffs were on TV. They seemed to have some "insider" info that was interesting. Anyway, the Roloffs tried to sue Google to get them to release the private information on anyone who had posted on the blog for the previous 4 years. There was a lot of negative comments which obviously the Roloffs didn't like. Their excuse for wanting the info was they thought someone connnected with the county they live in was giving out some private info. The owner of the blog sued them and the district court judge ruled in favor of the blog owner. They were not allowed to have any private info on anyone posting on the blog.
Since there has been so much discussion on privacy issues I thought that was interesting.
I'm not sure what CJ is posting, but when I looked at Cindy's feed, this is what she posted:
Kate Gosselin Cruise @CindyCardella
@CaitlinMC2 Thank you xxxxxxx I will take you off the list
Cindy is the one who posted this person's last name (in the xxxxx above). The tweet is still there.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@cleo811 hi and welcome! Great to have you! please ignore the hate and join our fun :)
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What hate is she talking about i'm confused.???
I looked at EM Tanner Designs - I e-mailed her yesterday and she did remove Kate's name from the plates but the monthly calendar is still showing Kate's Design. I am confused?
mim said... 32
Kat @ 30:
Yes, she's nuts. Read her Twitter feed. She's edging toward dangerous territory. If Cindy had read her Tweets she might be booking a new customer right now, instead of losing a reservation over CJ.
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But instead, Cindy gave out this person's last name- exposing her to the Kate's freaky henchmen/stalkers.
Way to go, Cindy.
The uber-fan is cjwhodunit - master sleuther and outer of 'haterz'
http://www.twazzup.com/?q=cjwhodunit&l=all
Personally, I think she's certifiable.
Where did Cindy get this person's last name? From CJ?
Anonymouse Today said... 39
Where did Cindy get this person's last name? From CJ?
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It may have been CJ but I believe the potential cruiser emailed Cindy asking for specific cruise information and I assume gave her name (maybe so Cindy could pass it on to CJ for more sleuthing?)
A woman Tweeted Cindy for more cruise info. Some others jumped in and the Tweet feed became several people Tweeting, with the fan still trying to get info from Cindy.
Eventually, the fan seemed to get the picture about the people that are running interference for Kate on Twitter.
She asked some specific questions that Cindy answered about CJ. She also emailed the fan with specific information abuit the number of people signed up for the cruise, and discussing "sweet" CJ.
Fan backed out of committing to cruise.
Cindy posted her full last name in a reply.
Today, the fan is not happy about that and has mentioned action.
That's the sequence in a nutshell.
I was sitting here thinking -- even if I were a serious fan, a Kate lover who wanted to meet her in the worst way, I would not book this cruise. Based on what's gone down here, I would be suspicious about this agency and agent and just wouldn't feel comfortable doing business with them. They may book many celebrity cruises, but if this is the way they do business, it sends out red flags. It's just too shoddy for me.
A woman Tweeted Cindy for more cruise info. Some others jumped in and the Tweet feed became several people Tweeting, with the fan still trying to get info from Cindy.
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If you are concerned about privacy, why would you do any of this on a public forum when you know that there are uber fans out there posting public information? Wouldn't it make more sense to pick up the phone and call the agent?
I wonder do the "Fans" know that they have to pay for pics that they take with their idol.?
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 28
I'm appalled. Went to kate's twitter feed to read. WOW. The "sweet old lady" is posting someones work,phone number, and personal business emails. This is getting dangerous.
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I second that question. Where is all this personal information being posted?
Sherry, the person who twittered for info about the cruise probably wasn't overly concerned about privacy. Cindy is trolling for cruisers on Twitter, and the person responded on Twitter.
She probably assumed that Cindy was a professional travel agent, and bound by ASTA professional ethics. Her mistake.
Apparently she then contacted Cindy off Twitter, which is how Cindy got her real name. Cindy then threw the person to the wolves by publishing her real name so that CJwhodunit and the other wolves could go after her.
This is a dangerous game Kate is playing, but she doesn't care who she associates with if it might put money in her pocket.
Sherry Baby said... 43
A woman Tweeted Cindy for more cruise info. Some others jumped in and the Tweet feed became several people Tweeting, with the fan still trying to get info from Cindy.
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If you are concerned about privacy, why would you do any of this on a public forum when you know that there are uber fans out there posting public information? Wouldn't it make more sense to pick up the phone and call the agent?
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The potential cruiser asked a few questions and then emailed Cindy. The only personal info the cruiser shared was that she had a 9 year old daughter who loved Kate. It was Cindy who revealed her last name. Preesi's site has it all.
Admin & everyone: There is a difference, in making money HONESTLY and making money DISHONESTLY.
Making money honestly is working for it, either self employed, or working for someone else. Kate has done none of the above, she is not working for it, she's live off the money the kids made, cause with out them she would not have had a TV show. She will not work for someone else, as in a 8-4, 9-5 etc job, especially nursing, cause we all know nursing can be a dirty job, & physical job, I watched the nurses in the hospital when my mom was there, it's a lot of work and stress and putting up with sometimes out of control patients, and also dealing with patients family, who can be worse than the patient. Kate will never go back to that kind of job. And be self employed, Kate can't handle anything by herself, her organization of her papers is scary, for a person her prides herself in being organized, she is the most dis-organized person I've ever known.
Making money dishonestly: Kate grifts, got love offerings, accepts gifts from fans, businesses, etc. Goes on TV Talk shows and crys about items that broke down, and bing they give her a new one, crys about how terrible live is, and they gift her with things. She milks Jon for all she can get in child support, does Jon pay alimony?
Kate has got the the poor single(oops divorce)mom of 8 dumb blond act down to a science. Act like your dumb, & helpless, cry THE WORLD HATES ME(which is what Kate has been using for sometime now, not the I do it for my kids). But people have and been getting wise to her.
Sorry, me again. I was wrong - EM has not removed Kate's name from anything. Does anyone know why? I wouldn't blame her if she refused to be bullied and remove the name of the calendar/plates SHE designed, but I thought she said she was taking Kate off everything. Anyone know?
PJ's momma, if I had to guess, Em Tanner probably just hasn't gotten around to it yet. Other than that, not sure. Perhaps she's contacting her attorney.
Kate is busy crapping out her rainbow farts on Twitter, probably trying desperately to distract from the twitter war going on over her despicable travel agent and uberfan.
And we all know where is will lead: at some point, Kate will blow and have her own meltdown. Again.
I figure out of the 30 booked its probably 20 adults plus their kids. kate will be in sheeple hell having such a small intimate number of people on the cruise. She will have to spend lots of time with them since she cannot say she cant do "one on one" time due to the large number of bookings. Have fun kate! You and your 20 sheep can have slumber parties, dine together, drink together, run together, play on the beach together AND you will have the fun of them trying to tell you how to manage your career. And if CJ doesn't get very personal attention for being your warrior watch out...she may turn on you.
So, I don't get it. I thought the cruise was through Alice Travel in NJ, but if you go to their website, Cindy's name is not listed. But, the Kate's Cruise website, lists them as who to book through. So, who really is this Cindy person???
Dallas Lady, that makes sense, but I could swear that she removed Kate from the calendar the other night. Maybe I'm wrong about that too. It's pretty funny though - that must REALLY get Kate's goat!
EM, no she'll do only the bare minimum she has to do on the cruise, possibly calling in "sick" for a couple of the planned events and otherwise dodging her fans.
They'll be VERY disappointed. The few fans she has left who aren't going on the cruise stand a better chance of still being fans after mid-August than the ones going.
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Dallas Lady, that makes sense, but I could swear that she removed Kate from the calendar the other night. Maybe I'm wrong about that too. It's pretty funny though - that must REALLY get Kate's goat!
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Is this the EM Tanner calendar you're talking about:
"the pink one calendar *small* 20x14.5"
She said the other night she'd renamed it the pink calendar and that's the way it's listed on her website.
Tweet-le De.....when I go to EM Tanner's site, I get The Kate calendar and Kate is mentioned in the custom plates descriptions too. How weird!
Shoot, meant to say it still says Kate in the sidebar on the dry erase section. You're right, it does say pink calendar at the actual product, but Kate's name is on the sidebar.
Admin: if Kate does not show for most of her events, that people paid for, could that sue her? The agency or the crusie line? For fraud? Cause of what is promised in the advisement and what took place were 2 different things. I've heard of people sueing for not getting a refund on a show ticket, for a shitty performance, or a short performance. Can theses cruise goers sue Kate, agency, possible the cruise?
The potential cruiser asked a few questions and then emailed Cindy. The only personal info the cruiser shared was that she had a 9 year old daughter who loved Kate. It was Cindy who revealed her last name. Preesi's site has it all.
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I understand that, but if I were concerned about anything, I wouldn't put it out on a public forum. I'd go right to the source -- over the telephone, asking to speak personally to the agent. Cindy tweeted her phone number several times, telling her to call. But, that's just me. I wouldn't tweet anything, knowing what goes on over there.
There is no excuse for what Cindy has done. An agent who tweets personal information is not a professional. I don't care how many cruises she has booked, how long she has been in the business, she should know better. She should not be engaging either the fans or non-fans. This tweet was particularly out of line:
Kate Gosselin Cruise @CindyCardella
@CaitlinMC2 @Kateplusmy8 You have to block Kate Haters.They attack everyone that has any interest in this cruise and want to see Kate Fail
Then there was this...
Kate Gosselin Cruise @CindyCardella
@CaitlinMC2 @Kateplusmy8 Please email me & I will explain these crazy people.Cindy@luxurycruisesandtours.com or call the office 800-388-SAIL
Kate Gosselin Cruise @CindyCardella
@CaitlinMC2 @Kateplusmy8 Hi Caitlin, U are talking to 1 of Kate's Haters. They just watch Kate's twitter & attack everyone that is a fan.
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It is unacceptable for anyone who deals with clients on a professional basis to do this. She's put herself in the middle of a Twitter war when she should just keep quiet and if she wants to tweet about the cruise, fine. You don't take sides. You just don't. She needs to grow up and learn how to conduct herself appropriately. You'd think by now she would know that, but apparently not.
The haters should stop attacking innocent people who tweet kate. They don't know anything about kate's lies. If you just feel so compelled to spread the truth surely there are better ways. I'm sure if I tweeted someone like kate and got all those hate tweets I would freak out.
This is why I will not go on twitter. I read kate's feed once in a while of someone says something alarming on here but I only look. I'm not jumping in that mess.
on another thought. the haters may be over the top..but i dont see them stalking people. Its the FANS that are the most scary. kate draws a fucked up crowd She needs to shut twitter down for her kids protection
Emails from Cindy to 'Caitlin', who was interested in the cruise. Courtesy of Tam at Preesi's.
https://twitter.com/#!/CaitlinMC2/status/182474112214642688/photo/1/large
https://twitter.com/#!/CaitlinMC2/status/182474933891371008/photo/1/large
Admin: if Kate does not show for most of her events, that people paid for, could that sue her? The agency or the crusie line?
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Interesting question. The disclaimer only states that Alice will not be responsible if Kate doesn't show for the cruise, not what happens if she does the cruise, but hides out in her cabin for most of it. I wonder if there's anything in her contract that states that she must appear at the events highlighted on their website. Are those guaranteed events? Did she promise to attend them? Once again, the agency doesn't address that.
Travel Agent Cindy could have easily avoided all this mess had she behaved professionally. When she saw the passionate response (on both sides) to this cruise, she should have figured out that she needed to be especially careful going forward.
She should have been completely forthcoming about the details of the cruise from the start. Had she spelled out all the specifics (including extra costs) about the special meet-and-greets and excursions with Kate, and if she had held Kate's feet to the fire about the supposed charitable contribution so she could relay that information, things would have gone much smoother.
Don't all reputable agencies make sure these specifics are spelled out as a matter of course? Now it seems Cindy may be in serious jeopardy of losing her job.
This is just one more example of Hurricane Kate leaving yet another path of destruction behind her. Everything she touches goes all to crap and chaos. How can one person create so much turmoil? I have never seen anything like it.
PJ'S momma, Ok, I see what's happening. I went to her site and put "calendars" in the search box, didn't even look at her sidebar. I guess she should change that.
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This sweet old lady posted an email picture of some haters work email. It was a letter to a client about buying a boat. It had his full name, email, phone and business. I saw it on kates feed an hour ago
That's why I am worried about this new girl who cancelled the cruise. Well she didn't even cancel. She made a joke about being trapped in Haiti without kate and cindy snapped and said Ms.XX I am crossing you off the list. I haven;t been following twitter but I looked today to see what was happening and I felt freaked out.
Sorry If i didn't give enough Information guys. I just didn't wanna post too much sInce it was someones info. All I know is on kates feed it there is a tweet by the sweet old lady. She posted screenshots of an email from a guy about buying a boat. It had his business name, phone numer, address and full name on it. I didnt sleuth it out to see where this all stems from to to see who this guy is.. because frankly i jumped off after reading it. It creeped me out. There is some game going on to prove how easy it is to track people on the internet it feels like. It's this woman's mission to sleuth out haters or people who talk to haters maybe? All I know is that posting someones email on twitter, the actual EMAIL not just address is wrong.
I guess CJ does it since haters know kate's business she wants the haters business out their as well to even the score. That's my take. Personally, I have no use for twitter and I am glad I never followed kate.
I'm not trying tot be an alarmist. Just letting you know what I saw so you can be cautious. It's getting serious and kate should put a stop to it by setting her twitter to private.
It's unfortunate that she has to do that but safety of her kids should be 1st.
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This sweet old lady posted an email picture of some haters work email. It was a letter to a client about buying a boat. It had his full name, email, phone and business. I saw it on kates feed an hour ago
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From what I can tell, the "sweet old lady" tweeted the name of a hater. She then tweeted a screen shot of a boat she believes the hater said belongs to him and sweet old lady thinks it's still for sale, thus the hater is a liar.
Sweet old lady then posted an email from the boat broker answering a request about whether the boat was still for sale. The name of the person to whom the boat broker sent the email is blocked out. The original request email is dated yesterday.
I believe the sweet old lady emailed the email request asking if the boat is still for sale so she could "out" the hater saying he does not own a boat.
I only saw the hater's name posted (which is still a crappy thing to do). I did not see the hater's phone number, email, business name.
I thought all that was the name, company name, phone number etc. of the boat broker.
I see the Kate fan who once wished that Jon would get hit and end up in a coma is still tweeting hate to him non-stop. Disgusting. She's as bad as Milo in my opinion.
I think this whole mess is, if it hasn't already going to end things rather badly for both Cindy and Kate.
Who was the person who thought this cruise would be a good idea?
I've never even heard of Alice Travel until now, is it local in PA or FL?
Makes me all that much more thankful I decided to see Europe NOT on a cruise with all this bad fortunes they are having. Glad I went with a winter choice instead. Just shaking my head here.
#65 thanks for clearing that up!!
I f thats the case i still dont like that the boat brokers info is shown in full. Why didn't she block it out? What if the boat broker gets harassed for being associated in this mess? To me it's getting out of hand with these tweeters trying to find out each others identity. How in the world would CJ know to contact the broker about the boat? How much time is she spending on this to find out stuff like this? It's still creepy to me.
Thanks for clearing this up though, but I m still disturbed by it all
Patty Cakes @TrippenIn
#PimpMyKids @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 Doubt that,Jon has only said Kate's a good mom,guess he would know.He left them with her after all
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@TrippenIn willingly:)
What is someone like me who misunderstood saw the email and harassed the boat broker thinking it was the hater? It could make him lose his job. What in going on in kate world? Steve should implore her to make her twitter feed private. There is a lot of intense stuff going back and forth.
EEK. Poor Gosselin 8. This is their future. Being "tracked" down for life by sleuthers. THese sheeple will not settle for the G8 living a wuiet life. THe NEED TO KNOW what's going on. Are they gonna tweet pics of the kids at their 1st jobs? Will they be proud they sleuthed out where each kids lives someday?
If the kids write a tell all will the fans go apeshit on them too?
I really wish kate would let these kids fade into obscurity. Keeping them going on each episode of KateplusMY8 only feeds this behavior longer.
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That's my take. Personally, I have no use for twitter and I am glad I never followed kate.
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I haven't either so I guess I'm not keeping up with the times... but is it ~ like totally unkewl dewd ~ to use email these days? Anyone caught up in this twitter shitstorm must enjoy it or they'd get the hell off it. I looked all over the internet but I couldn't find any law that says anyone HAS to have a twitter account. It seems like herd mentality to me.
njay and Admin - Thank you for the respectful posts.
As I previously stated, I do not think Jon is a bad person. I just don't like him because I don't respect him. He and Kate were in cahoots for years begging for state aid, cash, and freebies. Years. I don't care if it was all Kate's idea and he was along for the ride. When I watched that show I saw a man without the self-respect to stand up for himself or his children. He allegedly chose to go along with Kate's fake marriage contract instead of divorcing her. I know he was in an abusive relationship with Kate, I know how awful Kate is. I just don't respect him. I've said my piece about Jon. I wish him the best and I hope he is for real. I would really like to just agree to disagree on this matter.
And by the way, I'm not Christian. I just don't like watching people be swindled.
Patty Cakes @TrippenIn
#PimpMyKids @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 Doubt that,Jon has only said Kate's a good mom,guess he would know.He left them with her after all
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@TrippenIn willingly:)
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WILLINGLY? Then why was she sobbing on DWTS about her custody war if Jon ran WILLINGLY.
IS this what kate tells her children?????????? Daddy left willingly????????????
Is this the same Cindy? Is she even really a travel agent?
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20071218006405/en/Norwegian-Cruise-Line-Christens-Girl---Norwegian
So Kate's sitting in the Ted Gibson Salon getting her hair fried and tweeting away happily and again throwing Jon under the bus. She's a pig. Think of how she sounds when she's home with the kids and twatting and how she sounds now while she's spending their money.
EM, yes it's all very disturbing. I guess CJ felt she had to show the boat brokers name etc so the haters wouldn't say she made up the email.
It's all been going on too long, over 3 years I'm guessing, and I predict that IF Kate ever closes down her Twitter account all these people will find another venue in which to spew their venom to each other.
It's rarely about Kate anymore. Her fans are losing interest. Kate just supplies the forum. She's a fool.
well, this is what a 37 year old grown woman, a so-called 'prefessional', gets herself into for trying to close personal business deals on Twitter, like an 8th grader.
Text
IM
email
skype
phone call
The communication options are nearly endless, but what makes you think that a public social forum is the right place to make a business deal? Would this Cindy woman buy a car from a salesman on Twitter or Facebook? Well, wait, she probably would...
The AWESOME!!!! level of immaturity that surrounds Katie Irene is AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IS this what kate tells her children?????????? Daddy left willingly????????????
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Oh for gawdsakes. When they divorced the arrangement was for HER to leave willingly too so he could have his custody time with the kids at their home so as not to disrupt their lives. Kate fucked that up royally too. The cops were even called in on it.
kate is vile. I still cant get over her saying willingly. All these years of tears. All the custody battle crap she complained of on DWTS. How could she dare say her left the kids with her willingly. What if the kids hear that?
God, can she really not just stick with her normal mundane tweets. Why must Jon get kicked daily. Oh yea, because he is evil for not letting kate sign them into another tv contract so he must pay.
At least when the kids are older they will see that although Daddy screwed up in the beginning, that he and only he tried to shut down production. The kids will only see mom on tv sobbing about how the kids miss filming and love their crew daddies.
I'm pretty disgusted by that reply. WILLINGLY. how about, t"hx for support but Jon and I r both actively involved and love our kids." OR "I do not not discuss personal issues regarding custody, thank u." I mean hell, kate had NO PROBLEM telling Paige to STFU about mentioning her upcoming birthday. kate only tells people she wont discuss things if they are about HER. Jon and kids are fair game in kate's world.
kate is a classic parental alienator.
You know, maybe this twitter thing isn't so bad after all. If Jon ever wants to take proof to court about Kate's constant attempts to alienate those kids from him, it's all right there.
I hope Jon can report the 'willingly" tweet to the judge. This is unreasonable and will hurt the kids.
I even think Jon was really "off" around the time the marriage ended. He was so glib about it, even saying he was really excited. I get that it's good to end an abusive relationship and I get the newfound sense of freedom, but you know, the kids found nothing exciting about their parents splitting up and Jon should have treated the situation with more gravity. Moreover, jumping into a live-in relationship in NYC was a terrible, boneheaded move.
Here's the big BUT... Kate should never address Jon's poor behavior publicly. Not then, not now. Never. For the sake of the children, she should not respond to questions about his involvement, rather, she should always give a blanket statement about co-parenting and their kids being a priority.
Look at Jennie Garth and Peter Facinelli. They released a very positive statement that their kids are their priority and they will always work together for their sake.
I'm about done for the day. Have stuff to do around the house and I think I use the internet to procrastinate.
I'm not defending Kate but her "willingly" reply could also have been to directed at this tweet:
Patty Cakes @TrippenIn
@Truth_Teller201 #PimpMyKids What's funny is when @Kateplusmy8 said the littles napped 4 hours a day that's how much babies that age do.
There's so much we can criticize her for. I guess I get nitpicky when I think I see something questionable and want to clear up a potential rumor going wild.
84 - i dont think so. i try not to jump on her for nothing either, but on her feed "willingly" was in the same block as that Jon comment, not the nap one. I think that means it is in reply too that comment. I just looked. Although to be fair, I could be wrong since Im not a twitter whiz. It confuses me.
That's nice of you though to be fair minded and not jump to conclusions. I respect that. I guess I used to be a LOT like that but after reading her tweets, reading what people post her about what she writes, what she posts on her blogs and what she says in interviews...I can no longer defend her on anything. She's vile.
She can have the benefit of my doubt once she starts telling the truth about anything.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 84
I'm about done for the day. Have stuff to do around the house and I think I use the internet to procrastinate.
I'm not defending Kate but her "willingly" reply could also have been to directed at this tweet:
Patty Cakes @TrippenIn
@Truth_Teller201 #PimpMyKids What's funny is when @Kateplusmy8 said the littles napped 4 hours a day that's how much babies that age do.
There's so much we can criticize her for. I guess I get nitpicky when I think I see something questionable and want to clear up a potential rumor going wild.
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I don't think so. Twitiq shows it was in response to the custody tweet:
@TrippenIn willingly:)
51 mins ago - Twitterrific
TrippenIn #PimpMyKids @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 Doubt that,Jon has only said Kate's a good mom,guess he would know.He left them with her after all
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Sorry Tweet-le, but she DID say Jon left the kids with her willingly. She never responded and possibly never even saw the tweet about the kids sleeping all day. It's on her twitiq:
@TrippenIn willingly:)
52 mins ago - Twitterrific
TrippenIn #PimpMyKids @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 Doubt that,Jon has only said Kate's a good mom,guess he would know.He left them with her after all
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My kids never napped 4 hours straight. maybe thruout the course of a day. Or as INFANTS. But not toddlers. I guess I didn't train them right. That doesn't count the 45 min they got if they climbed out. That's 5 hours in a crib.
I tried not to judge kate on the nap thing because I know 8 kids would be hard to manage. But I also didn't know at the time how much help she had, not did i really think about how the day would go.. Up at 8...nap at 12, up at 4 or 5, dinner, bath bed by 8pm. That is a LOT of crib time in hindsight for 3 year olds. Never out of crib more than 4 straight hours during day PLUS 12 hour bedtime.
"Willingly"? For real? She's digging her own grave here folks and it won't be long before she falls in.
Her constant allusions, implications and passive aggressive comments about her kids' father is going to bite her in the ass big time.
As the kids get older, her actions will have the opposite affect of her intentions...which of course, is to make herself look like the better parent.
Instead the result will be that, even to her kids, she will be the bitter, petty and childish parent while Jon will be even more respected for never stooping to her level.
Kate's constant need to puff herself up only makes her look more and more insecure and needy.
If those kids weren't involved, I would do a lot more laughing and much less cringing.
Have to run.
I don't know what you mean by "block." Anything Trippenin posted before the time noted on Kate's twitter back to her could have been the one she (Kate answered) answered. Time wise, there are 3 possibilities.
I'm not exactly proud to say I'm probably a bit of a Twitter "whiz" just because I'm always double checking what both sides have to say before I make comments.
Neither side has credibility if they're jumping to wrong conclusions and then bringing them up over and over again. I see it on Twitter quite often from both sides.
I'm not always correct of course. Who is? I'm just of the opinion that Kate directed the "willingly" comment and the smile :) to the napping tweet.
Weren't Jon and Kate ordered to take parenting classes? What happened to that? Did Kate weasel her way out of it? I still think Kate needs to take a class...heck, probably a whole semester worth.
Sherry 89
If those kids weren't involved, I would do a lot more laughing and much less cringing.
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EM - Thanks for the AMEN. :P Just for the record though...I'm Sheri with one R and an I. The other Sherry adds Baby to her name. No offense taken of course, it happens to me all the time but just so there's no confusion. :D Been a long time lurker and have only posted a few times in recent months. You guys rock!
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You dont have to explain to me. I totally respect what you are trying to bring to the discussion. Fairness and benefit of the doubt so rumors dont start. It's what gives this blog credibility. Hell, I misunderstood the CJ tweet so it is a slipperly slope.
Im just jaded to kate I guess. I need a katecation. I'm fascinated by narcissists because my son was diagnosed as possibly being one when he was 16. They cant diagnose children but they wrote in the report he exhibited behaviors. Since then I have poured over information. Honestly, it stunned me because he is a sweet and loving boy and cares deeply for others. I started following more of kate's saga around that time and tried time and again to see similarities in their behaviors and I could see none. Maybe kate is hardcore..or maybe Dr was wrong seeing how he didn't even complete all stages of the test.
PJ's momma, I don't use twitiq but I can't tell how it shows exactly which tweet Kate was replying to. Is there a way?
SORRY SHERI!
I type fast and don't proof read. Thanks for coming out of lurkdom. You make good points.
I am so sick of all these reality shows. People with no talent getting rich. And thinking they can say or do anything they want to. Kate along with shows like Jersey shore need to go away.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 I have 2agree that Jon knows his kids R in the best of hands when they R w/Kate. No stress or worries 4him there. #goodmomKate
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Except when Kate's in LV for a marathon that she could run locally (DC's was just last Sat.), or in KY for the Derby, or in NYC for her hair. I bet Jon stresses a whole lot when the "bodyguard" is with Kate and his kids are home with a sitter/nanny.
I really am believing the kids are kate's shield. If any other celeb had as many documented lies as kate does they would be splashed all over the tabloid news. kate gets a pass and I finally understand why.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 95
PJ's momma, I don't use twitiq but I can't tell how it shows exactly which tweet Kate was replying to. Is there a way?
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There's a blue block below Kate's tweet to show the original poster's tweet. At least it is on mine.
One thing I want to explain about Twitter.
Cindy Cardella tweeted "Caitlin" first yesterday & Caitlin responded. Then she sent Cindy an email with a list of questions.
Then Caitlin went on Kate's Twitter to see for herself what was going on with CJ vetting people. She was very concerned about her privacy & didn't want to just take Cindy's word for it so she was conversing with people about it.
Meanwhile, stupid Cindy was trying to distract Caitlin from the issues by telling her to ignore the haters, but she didn't include Kate's name in her tweet, so Caitlin didn't see any of Cindy's tweets.
So when you read the tweets in order & they sound funny, it's because Cindy's tweets were falling on deaf ears while Caitlin was on Kate's page.
I hope I didn't confuse everyone more.
The other Sherry adds Baby to her name.
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lol!! I'm a Frankie Valli fan after having seen Jersey Boys on Broadway!
Hi Sheri!
@TrippenIn willingly:)
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Chiming in with "willingly" is bad enough, but that stupid smiley puts it over the top. I wish someone would smack the smug smile off her face.
You know, my mom used to pull this shit with my dad after they divorced. Whenever she said bad things about him to my brothers and me it just made her look bad. I'm sure those kids are around Jon enough to know the truth of the situation. Kids are young and inexperienced, but that doesn't mean they are stupid.
I do not understand how Cindy feels she can personally weigh in on the polarizing views on Kate Gosselin. She is in the business of selling travel, not getting personally involved in the drama of all things Kate. Having owned a travel agency, Cindy would have been dismissed for her actions some time ago. She is immature, star-struck, and unprofessional which could do harm to Alice Travel's future business. Also, trolling on Twitter for new bookings seems odd to me to say the least.
On another topic, I have to wonder about Kate telling her new follower to "ignore the hate" which should ignite enough curiosity in Kate to ask herself why. Does she really believe people dislike her because she has 3 cars and a big house and are jealous of that. Or, are her detractors still envious of her former reality show status, that she is a runner, her hair, what?
Does she ever have a moment of quiet reflection, wondering why she has become the brunt of so much negatively toward her? Even if she sees herself as positive, upbeat person she is aware of the discord that still swirls around her. For the sake of her children, who do not want people hating their mother, Kate should have a moment with herself.
Kate Gosselin
@Kateplusmy8
I'm joining modern Tweeting society. My kids will be so proud! You're shocked? Me too! www.kateplusmy8.com
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I usually just read the twat's tweets from this blog but I went to Kate's twitter and just noticed a glaring lie. If Kate doesn't allow her kids to twitter, why would they be proud of her for joining the (cough) modern tweeting society?
Kate? you got some 'splainin to do.
Does she ever have a moment of quiet reflection, wondering why she has become the brunt of so much negatively toward her?
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Jumping in - that is another glitch in the mind of a narcissist. They show a profound lack of introspection.
I even think Jon was really "off" around the time the marriage ended. He was so glib about it, even saying he was really excited.
Yeah, kind of a funny thing to say. You'd think he would have been devastated at moving away from the children and leaving them with their horrible mother. But he surely didn't seem to reflect that.
why was she sobbing on DWTS about her custody war if Jon ran WILLINGLY.
I don't think she was sobbing about fighting Jon *for* the kids. I think she was sobbing cuz he didn't want them *at all*. And she couldn't believe she was going to be stuck with the kids full-time.
She never wanted to be with the kids if she could avoid it. Full-time custody would be her worst nightmare, and Jon was delivering it to her.
In some ways, I kind of suspect that maybe he *did* abandon the kids....(he was so excited to finally get away from her).
Probably she was stunned, cuz he appeared to be so attached to the kids. She thought he'd fight for full custody, and she'd be able to bleed him dry in exchange for him having custody .
And instead, he said, here you can have them. Bye, bye!
I think she thought he'd fight for full or at least half custody, and she'd be able to continue traveling with Stevie baby and being a star while Jon played nanny to the kids a minimum of half time.
So when Jon said nope, they're all yours honey! I'm outta here! she was so stunned she didn't know what to do. She couldn't believe that he actually left.
And that's what we've seen reflected in her animosity to Jon all this time. And her comments that everyone leaves her. She was stunned that Jon actually left. She thought he'd never have the balls to do it because of the kids.
Just the same way she uses the kids now as a shield. She counts on people not saying anything about her bad behavior cuz they don't want to hurt the kids.
Actually, I think she was stunned that when she said she wanted a divorce, he said ok, bye. She thought that he'd never leave the kids. That he loved them so much that he'd put up with her shenanigans forever.
She thought he'd fight tooth and nail not to divorce, but she was wrong. He just needed a small window to escape, and when she gave him the opening he was out of there. He didn't have the balls to initiate leaving, but as long as she started it, he finished it.
JMO.
Re: naps.
I think the only thing that saved those kids' sanity was each other. They could talk or play when they woke up. Otherwise they might have developed that detachment syndrome babies in orphanages can get when they have no human interaction and are left in bed for long periods. Kate did not seem to use a baby monitor, did she?
Tweet-le........here's the link to her twitiq. It shows the tweet she responded to directly underneath it.
http://twitiq.com/kateplusmy8
Oh dear lord, kimmie is back.
Anonymous, I too am tired of the reality shows that simply follow the lives of trashy people. I like watching shows that showcase a talent or artistry. Lately I have been watching Face/Off, a reality competition about special fx make-up. I also have started watching The Next Fashion Star. These shows aren't for everyone, but but it is nice to see people with talent get a chance to showcase it.
Kimmie, none of us on here need forgiveness from Kate - she has not done anything to us. Forgiveness for Kate will have to come from her children - those precious beings are the ones that are stuck in "Kate's World".
You know, my mom used to pull this shit with my dad after they divorced. Whenever she said bad things about him to my brothers and me it just made her look bad. I'm sure those kids are around Jon enough to know the truth of the situation
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I seem to remember that Jon said somewhere that he and the kids know the truth and that's all that matters. Am I imaging that, and if not, does anyone remember in what context it was said?
" I looked all over the internet but I couldn't find any law that says anyone HAS to have a twitter account. It seems like herd mentality to me."
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I caught the tail-end of a Fox News segment yesterday. Apparently potential employees are requesting that an applicant provide Facebook passwords. There is no law that says that you must answer, but you can be denied employment if you refuse to give it. What happens if you don't have FB? The employer can request that before you are hired you set up social networking sites, such as Facebook, give your password, and if you refuse to set up the accounts, they can pass you over for the job.
I can't keep up here -- trying to do too many things at one time! What is this about CJ and a boat?
Kate again twist her words to make it sound like he willingly left the kids with her because he didn't care about them. We know Kate.
He was pressured into leaving by more people than just her, TLC had a hand in it. They owned J & K and when Jon balked he was out.
I'm sure he willingly left Kate though. In fact he probably left skid marks in the driveway.
I think that the Norwegian cruise line "godmother" is the same Cindy. In that articule (old), it says she is a stay at home mom. I'm just wondering, cuz the cruise website says you have to go through Alice Travel in order to book it, and she is not listed on Alice travel, if she is somehow a middle man? A publist? Manager? Something? I don't think she is a travel agent, and I wonder if Alice Travel would really care too much about what she is doing.
I don't think Jon or Kate have any place in entertainment. Any gig Kate or Jon ever get in the future will because they both pimped their kids out.
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Anonymous, I too am tired of the reality shows that simply follow the lives of trashy people. I like watching shows that showcase a talent or artistry. Lately I have been watching Face/Off, a reality competition about special fx make-up. I also have started watching The Next Fashion Star. These shows aren't for everyone, but but it is nice to see people with talent get a chance to showcase it.
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There are so many really good shows on TV these days. Today is my favorite because there's Modern Family and The Middle. Drama is excellent too, the The Good Wife and Blue Bloods. Such talented writing and acting out there and then there's dreck like RHWO (insert unfortunate town) and Jersey Shore where bad behavior=ratings and losers wind up with more money than they know what to do with.
"The Situation" is in rehab and Snooki is pregnant. I highly, highly doubt she will stay sober once that kid is born. She will probably end up getting her own reality show.
And OMG, don't get me started on the Kartrashians whose patriarch can thank his cosmetic surgeon for the ability to blink his lips.
I think I may have Kate figured out... She thinks she is a Disney Princess! It makes perfect sense doesn't it? Wishing upon a star for her next big break, the honeymoon in Disneyworld, waiting for Prince Charming.
Here's a tip Kate - It's out of style to be a helpless woman. Even the modern Disney Princesses make things happen for themselves. Maybe you should pop Mulan into the dvd player.
Snookie and JW- woww are getting a reality show. It should be called hookers are us.
Kate's "Willingly" comment was definitely, without a doubt, a reply to the custody comment. If you click on her comment you can see to which tweet she hit "reply."
Kate was spoiled for a long time. She received free stuff and she got her way all the time. These stars, sports stars, and reality morons get whatever they want. They get spoiled and when they get drooped from shows ect they can't take it.
I seem to remember that Jon said somewhere that he and the kids know the truth and that's all that matters. Am I imaging that, and if not, does anyone remember in what context it was said?
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I too remember him saying that but cannot source it either.
kimmie,
And just like your example, Kate too can forgive everyone without anyone asking her for forgiveness. But will she?
And why are you still here? Someone requests you to stop posting on their blog you stop posting on their blog.
Anonymous, I too am tired of the reality shows that simply follow the lives of trashy people. I like watching shows that showcase a talent or artistry. Lately I have been watching Face/Off, a reality competition about special fx make-up.
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Oh, my gosh, Tucker...isn't that a great show? The talent that those young people have is astounding. Some of those designs they come up with just leave me with my jaw hanging open, especially the ones that are animated.
So sick of Kate and even Jon talking about there custody agreements. They both need to go away for good. I don't want to see either them any where in the entertainment industry.
I believe it was in response the infamous and outrageous appearance on Regis & Kelly with Anderson Cooper.
He definitely said it.
I should clarify...I didn't mean in any way that Jon *willingly* abandoned his kids. He had no choice but to leave, no matter how much he loved the kids.
I think that if he hadn't left, he would have died, metaphorically speaking. We could see him dying before our eyes.
What I meant was that he could see the futility of fighting TLC and Kate. He could see that he personally didn't stand a chance once Kate teamed with Steve and TLC instead of him. And he certainly didn't stand a chance of influencing the kids' lives at that point.
He could see that it was a lost cause, and why continue beating his head against that brick wall.
He wasn't willing to fight Kate/TLC anymore. He knew that he wouldn't have a say in *anything* involving the kids, so he said, "Here. They're all yours. Do whatever you're gonna do, cuz that's all that's gonna happen anyway. I'm tired of fighting you on it."
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Agree!
I do watch some reality that involves competition. LOVE Project Runway if only to see what comes out of Michael Korr's mouth.
"It's like a toilet paper roll exploded all over my Bubie at a Barmitzvah!"
Also:
Chopped
Top Chef
I used to watch a couple of the RHW franchises, particularly the failed DC one, which was painfully boring. Hair pulling and skank dresses don't bode well in DC society circles. It's much more buttoned-down, which made for a really boring season.
I mean, not even those bozos who crashed the White House could save it.
I like the reality show with singing and design. I hate reality shows that use kids. The Duggars make me sick Michelle love's that camera just like Kate use to. I hope TLC cancels that Duggars they had all those kids. They need to take care of them without pimping them out.
This is from a ROL article Posted on Oct 15, 2010 @ 01:59PM
Here is Jon's entire Tweet:
"As you may or may not be aware, I have been working for some time to remove my children from television. I do not believe being on TV is beneficial to any of them. They are no longer toddlers that are oblivious to what is going on around them. They are now six and ten, in school and desperately in need of a normal life.
"Each of them has experienced negative effects of having their lives so public. Some are struggling with emotional and/or behavioral issues. My goal for my children is for them to have a normal childhood, and gain back their much deserved privacy. This is not about money, this is about my children. No amount of money is worth the price my children are paying. You cannot put a price on childhood. Money comes and goes, but you only have one childhood.
"For those questions about money and support, I can say I am supporting my children to the best of my ability. All parties involved know the truth about this. I am and have been actively seeking employment. I have been barred from accepting entertainment deals that would generate income for my family due to contractual obligations. I am also actively looking for a job outside of the entertainment industry and so far, have not secured a position. In the mean time, I have been focusing on spending time with my children and providing a safe, stable, normal and private environment for them!
"On October 13, 2010, I went to court to act in the best interest of my children- to remove them from television. The judge respectfully denied my plea, and granted filming rights to their mother. I honor the judge’s decision, but I do not support it. I will not stop fighting to remove my children from television. It is not a child’s job to support themselves, or a lifestyle, they need to be kids. I would like to apologize to my friends, family, and especially my children for not taking a stand earlier in my life and not questioning my decisions to have our lives documented and displayed. I will have to answer to my children for the rest of my life. I will have to live with this guilt the rest of my life. I am truly sorry!
PJ 109 -- Oh dear lord, kimmie is back.
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She never left, even though she's been told over and over and over again not to post here. She can't understand the meaning of the word "banned." I really think there's a problem "upstairs" with that one.
What's the name of the mythological creature that just keeps resurrecting itself no matter how many times it's believed to have met its demise?
kate is gross. Her crazy am was all about pushing the kids out the door fast so she can get to Ted Gibsons.
There is nothing wrong with getting a nice haircut. So why hide it this time kate? Why isn't milo tweeting "oh jusan hueman, make our fair maiden kate great" or that other whackaddoole bullshit poem stuff she tweeted last time? Oh yea, because kate has been crying poor and budgetish this week. The financially bipolar pendulum is swinging toward broke this week.
Please do tell kate how you buy clothing 3 sizes to large and share shoes to save money plus BASEMENT SHOPPING! Please tell us how to buy soup and juice for ONLY $200 if we shop right. I need more budgeting tips so I can afford Ted Gibson too. I want a lifeless mane of hair like yours!! Please? I'm your biggest fan. Can you also tell me whaat to do? My 2 year old fell and has a booboo. The bandaid wont stick. Should I peel the paper off 1st? I'm eagerly awaiting your reply!
kate has the attention span of a pea so she will forget she's broke tonight and give a shout out to her favorite waiter at Fig and Olive.
and kate, hurry, I need an answer on the bandaid question!
Mel said... 127
I should clarify...I didn't mean in any way that Jon *willingly* abandoned his kids. He had no choice but to leave, no matter how much he loved the kids.
I think that if he hadn't left, he would have died, metaphorically speaking. We could see him dying before our eyes.
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I agree Mel. Having seen depression up close, the eyes die. How Kate could not see or not do anything while he sat right next to her, in complete misery at the prospect of continuing down the path of TV and fame, defies logic.
If my DH was in pain, I'd do anything to remedy it. But Kate just shrugged her shoulders and said her life/show mantra. If your life is you show, what is left when the show's over?
That's nothing: one of thoses Toddlers & Tiaras Brats Eden is getting her own reality show. Sorry people this kid: Eden has no talent. I don't care what her in for the money momma thinks either. Her mother and Kate are made from the same cloth. They are both worse than Gyspy Rose Lee mother was. And she was the real original STAGE MOMMA ever. Such a stage mom that when her Baby June was probably around 14-15, ran away and got married, momma turned to the older daughter to make her a star, and admitting that she had always fancied herself a star, even though her kids hated show biz. It's funny cause even though both girls hated show biz, that is all they knew, sound like another famous family The Osmonds?
Jon's "the kids know the truth" comment is on his twitter, that is where it originated.
What's the name of the mythological creature that just keeps resurrecting itself no matter how many times it's believed to have met its demise?
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The Phoenix that rises from the ashes. I believe she's more of a Hydra, whose heads grow back in greater number if lopped off.
Here is the screen shot of the tweets of Patty and Kate. Hope the link works!
http://i44.tinypic.com/2modp5i.jpg
Crossing my fingers that it works!
"For those questions about money and support, I can say I am supporting my children to the best of my ability. All parties involved know the truth about this
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Thanks for posting that, Auntie. Such a heartfelt statement! That's not the one I'm thinking about, though. I seem to remember it was a video. I'm sure it was about Kate, and was directed at her. He said that he and the children know the truth. Something about Kate having a problem and she knows what it is. It might have been shortly after the divorce.
GKWay the link worked.
EM:
Too funny! Just the same mentality of some of the tweeters. These people actually seek her nursing advice, cooking tips, bargain/shopping advice and admire her parenting skills and strength for 'living' her life. Oy! They hang off every word. But some I hope will see the truth like em Tanner did and fall away from worshiping such a dubious idol.
Wasn't Jon still being paid by TLC until his contract was up? I still say we don't know all the truth about Kate or Jon. I don't believe half of what either of theses 2 pimps say.
Tucker's Mom -- 136 The Phoenix that rises from the ashes. I believe she's more of a Hydra, whose heads grow back in greater number if lopped off.
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Chuckling here over the Hydra. I know the Phoenix (well, not personally), but that's not the one I'm thinking of. Darn -- now this will drive me nuts. Hydra would be appropriate, but wouldn't you think that with multiple heads there would at least be a bit more brain power?
EM said... 132
She really is a piece of work isn't she? She pretends to be this budget-minded mom! I can't see how her fans defend her. Kate has more money than all her fans combined.
It's just so sad, she wants her fans to think she is just like them, yet she hides her audi purchase, the recently attended RedCross gala and now today's jaunt to NYC for a 1000 haircut and probably shopping and a fancy restaurant fix.
One of these days it's all going to come crashing down.
Anybody who fleeces people for things they can afford themself is a fraud and the worst kind of human being.
Tucker's Mom said... 133
I'm not saying Jon wasn't depressed, nor am I saying that he wasn't in an abusive relationship. But here's the thing in my book: Jon could have refused to leave the house. And frankly, he would have had a good case. He was the children's primary caregiver. He had quit his job to take care of the kids while Kate traveled.
The other thing Jon could have done, if he truly felt he had no option but to leave, was to take the kids with him. He had money. He had family. He had places to go. Again, Kate was traveling. Jon was the primary caregiver. Jon could have said "Fine. You want the fancy house, you want the fancy cars, you want a camera in your face 24/7, fine. But not me, and not our kids. I'll see you in court!" and taken the kids and left while she was on one of her many trips.
The bottom line is that Jon wanted to be able to run around, sleep around, and be a 20 something again with no responsibilities. I don't care how you sugar coat it, that's the reality as I saw it then and see it now. Saying "Kate drove him to it" may be helpful in understanding why he did what he did, but it's not an excuse for his behavior and most people here acknowledge that.
Here's the other thing: Jon admits that. He admits that he made poor choices that affected his family. I'm sure, privately, if he could go back, he would probably choose to do many things differently.
I like Jon. I don't know him, but he seems personable, seems to love his kids and actively engages with them and he seems to have worked hard to make better choices and turn his life around. I give him major kudos for all of that. Nobody's perfect, certainly not me. I hope these positive behaviors continue. His children deserve no less than parents that are present in their lives, who provide for their emotional and physical well being and will help them reach their full potential.
But I'm not going to sit here and say Jon didn't have a choice. You always have choices. They may not be great choices but you do have them and frankly, when kids are involved, their needs take precedence over yours. That's just my opinion.
Sherry Baby - that was the video that came out on RumorFix right after the show was cancelled. Don't have a link for it, but that's the one you're thinking of.
He's actually said several times "My kids and I know the truth".
Thanks for posting that, Auntie. Such a heartfelt statement! That's not the one I'm thinking about, though. I seem to remember it was a video.
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You're welcome Sherry. That was more to show how Jon was screwed eight ways to Sunday when he finally came to his senses about filming the kids. I doubt we'll ever see anything similar coming from Kate.
I remember the quote you are looking for, but I don't know where it is either. I'm sure it will surface here soon...the great sleuths on this blog rival old Sherlock himself.
Pimping: I think Jon was still getting something from TLC, for his silence. Probably a small amount of money or TLC was paying his outrageous child support/ and or alimony, till contract ran out. This is maybe why Kate is mad/PO. And maybe why they were in court recently, maybe over custody and child support. Maybe that's why Kate made that comment, that Jon's Child support was about enough to buy lunch with. It must have fell in amount to a very small amount, maybe when TLC decided to cut his pay in half or quarter: it was stated that Jon was at one time paying Kate $24,000 a month child support. That's a lot of money, TLC was flipping the bill, so they could keep the kids on TV. $3000. a kid a month times 8, that's a lot of money to spend on just one kid, let alone 8. I hear dads paying closer to $300 a kid or less a month, where did it all go?
silimom said... 144 I so agree what you said about Jon.
Here it is...4:30 PM CST (5:30 PM EST)
"Most" mothers would be getting dinner ready...greeting the kids as they come home from school, asking how their day went, making sure they're doing their homework...
And what's our Kate doing?
Why, sitting in her white plastic throne (probably)-or her leather couch, sending dozens of tweets out to her adoring minions...
Gee...just makes me all warm and fuzzy to know she's such a loving mother of the year....
You can still make dinner and twitter. While making dinner.
So my aunt died last week. She and my father were estranged from each other and consequently I hadn't had any contact with since I was 10 years old. I didn't even know she was sick. I know my dad is beating himself up over how this all turned out. I was angry with him at first, but now I'm just sad that I lost my chance at ever getting to know her. At least I know what I don't have to continue the path of bad behaviors set forth by my parents.
I'm not saying this to get sympathy from anyone. It's been on my mind a lot this past week and it is so relevant to the Gosselin situation I though I would share. Kate should think long and hard about the consequences of estranging her family. God forbid anything happen to her family, but if tragedy struck, how would she be able to look at herself in the mirror. This is something that haunts people for the rest of their lives.
Mel (107), I also agree with your take on this. I think that Jon did not fight for physical custody at the time because he thought it would be worked out that they would share custody at the home. I don't think he knew (1) how much pressure and money TLC would bring to bear on him in order for the show to go on; and (2) how much pressure KATE was going to put on everything (including her kids) to achieve the same end. Their divorce was final in Dec. 2009. By April 2010, when she was "dancing," I think TLC had settled their dispute with him, but was still pushing to get the kids back on camera. He did file for custody at that time. I doubt we'll ever know the details, but not only did he NOT succeed, suddenly TLC was back filming for Kate Plus 8 in June. I think Jon continued to fight, consistently, to make the filming stop, but was not successful.
I think Kate insisted on physical custody when she realized that TLC WAS willing to press the filming issue and to fund the fight; without the kids living with her, and her alone, the show couldn't have continued. As damning as it might sound, I sincerely believe this is the ONLY reason she wanted the kids.
Don't know if my recollection of the timing of these events is completely accurate, so anyone with a better recall, please jump in.
Kate should allow her parents to see her kid'S. I lost my Mom. Dad and brother within a years span. Done and done my heart goes out to you.
Done and done said... 151
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I'm sorry for your loss and lost opportunity.
I remain convinced that Jodi and Kevin had only the kids' well being in mind when they dare spoke out. I do not think they are pernicious at all.
All of those kids are completely cut off from the cousins they grew up and played with, and of course from Aunt Jodi, who seemed lovely.
They will suffer the consequences of Kate's decision and some day realize what she took away from them in order to further and further isolate them from the world beyond the big white fence.
And Kate's fans have the audacity to put Jon down for having Ellen in the kids' lives for the time they dated. Yes, the kids probably were sad that they will not be seeing her again, but what about Kate cutting actual family members out of their lives.
I'm telling you, when they grow up, some of them will be angry over the loss of such an important relationship. And for what? A TV show, some trips and a lavish lifestyle?
Has Kate ever specified what this "next big job" she's waiting for is exactly or is she just expecting to basically hit the lottery twice?
She's had every opportunity possible handed to her on a "golden platter" such as ET letting her try her hand at interviewing celebs, The View giving her a guest host spot, Twist of Kate, etc. and has failed miserably at every turn.
If she really wants this TV career, is she working to improve her skills at all or is she just expecting to be handed something with little to no effort on her part again? Seeing the little clip of her talking about Coupon Cabin in the silver dress with that other mom, she just comes across as so flat. No spark or TV presence at all.
Is she still surrounded by "yes" people telling her only what she wants to hear? Are they really telling her she has a future in TV or is she just so certain her next big job will come along because of all the ego stroking she gets from the sycophants on Twitter?
I'm mystified.
Gift of grab, Jon could have made an agreement with TCL. And received a large settlement so they could keep filming his kids. I don't think Jon or Kate tell the truth most of the time.
The bottom line is that Jon wanted to be able to run around, sleep around, and be a 20 something again with no responsibilities.
Sadly, I think this was true there for a quite a while. At least he got past wanting no responsibility (hopefully), which I don't think Kate has yet. She's pissed as hell that she's forced to be the responsible one. She wanted all the glory with *none* of the responsibility.
it's not an excuse for his behavior and most people here acknowledge that.
Sigh. Yes, again. I think he acknowledges it, too....now. Unfortunately, he didn't see it then.
The other thing Jon could have done, if he truly felt he had no option but to leave, was to take the kids with him.
True, that was a choice. But he didn't do that. Why not? Cuz he was caught up in the no responsibility thing? At first I think he could barely save himself, let alone the kids. Then he got hooked up with Michael Lohan and that attorney and a bunch of other xxxx's, who did him *no* favors. Instead of Kate leading him around by the nose, those people were leading him around, into stupidity. Hopefully, he's grown up since then and leads his own way. But maybe not. Time will tell.
You always have choices. They may not be great choices but you do have them and frankly, when kids are involved, their needs take precedence over yours.
And that's what they *both* lost track of during the divorce time. It was all about their personal needs. They were both immature dolts, who had no business having *any* children, let alone 8. For Kate her needs are first priority still, Jon appears to have gotten a better handle on that.
Pimping: I think Jon was still getting something from TLC, for his silence.
Yes, I think so too. Comes back to those choices, doesn't it.
Anybody who fleeces people for things they can afford themselves is a fraud and the worst kind of human being.
True. And Jon was a willing participant in that for many years. How long before we let that go? What does he have to do to make amends for that?
I don't know. He's almost there, but not quite, IMO, if he can stay silent, private, be all about what's best for the kids instead of chasing fame, and not getting caught up in the Kate thing.
I have such mixed thoughts about Jon. He *did* have choices, he made the wrong ones, a lot of them....he drank the koolaid for quite a while....he was in abusive relationship, which is so hard to escape and it clouds your thinking, but he finally did escape...he seems to be genuinely nice to the kids....he appears to be making better choices now....appears to have grown up some....
It's so interesting. Kate is so black and white, I have NO doubts what I think about her. But Jon...he's quite the conundrum.
I have to completely disagree Jon should have grabbed the kids and left. I can think of nothing more traumatizing for a child than to be ripped from the home they knew and rouines and friensa and everything familiar, and dragged to a strange and new one while their parents duke out custody of them. In fact I find this idea of using the kids as pawn and leverage disgusting. Regardless his motivations it was the right thing to do to let the kids stay where they were most familiar and comfortable. A wild idea, maybe he wanted them to keep their routines and life while the adults handled the problem. As for Kate's willingly comment, I've seen the docket and gee Jon sure wasted a lot of time and money dragging her to court for someone who was willingly fine with her. Kate's full of it.
Gift of Grab 152 --- I agree with all that too.
IMO, this is the crux of the entire Jon/Kate story:
As damning as it might sound, I sincerely believe this is the ONLY reason she wanted the kids.
As for Kate's willingly comment, I've seen the docket and gee Jon sure wasted a lot of time and money dragging her to court for someone who was willingly fine with her. Kate's full of it.
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Yep, we're supposed to believe that Jon just handed them over yet then believe Kate's seething comment about "someone making decisions on how to raise the kids when they only see them 4 days a month" or something like that.
Kate can't have it both ways. You're pissed that he left he kids with you, but you're pissed that Jon has a say (and obviously expresses his fatherly opinion). Keep track of the lies, woman!
Is she still surrounded by "yes" people telling her only what she wants to hear? Are they really telling her she has a future in TV or is she just so certain her next big job will come along because of all the ego stroking she gets from the sycophants on Twitter?
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I would bet all my money that she only allows "yes" people in her life at this point. You either stand with her or against her, remember? She doesn't realize that it is often the people who love you the most who tell you things you don't want to hear for your benefit. This bitch has cut off her nose to spite her face.
I found this article "http://www.showbizspy.com/article/212625/kate-gosselin-kids-hate-being-with-their-dad.html" (I hope the link works) where Jon mentions kids know the truth. I am not sure if he says said it any other times.
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Jon has since responded to Kate — on Twitter.
“As much as I want to respond to numerous LIES recently claimed on Regis and Kelly, I will refrain,” he wrote Friday.
“I have learned from the past that it’s a waste of my time and energy. I am ‘rising above’ and refuse to engage in any sort of public argument that could potentially harm or upset my children. My children and the people in my life know the truth, and that is what’s important.”
I find it intetesting that the twitter post from this morning about the kids having a bad morning (as we suspect she was trying to get off to NYC) is no longer there. And all of her posts there now since the battle with EM Tanner are sweetly-sickening replies to fans. Not one mention of what she is doing today. Interesting...
Admin. Could you put directions somewhere here on how to put link in posts? Maybe somewhere everyone who forgets how (me atleast? LOL) can look at it when necessary.
Sorry all the link doesn't go where it should.
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 I'm also hopeful that he makes more money so kids benefit & Kate can continue 2b SAHM...workin her own schedule!
Milo is out of his/her mind. She hopes Jon can make more money so Kate can stay at home doing nothing? Sure, Milo, beat this man to death, make him work more than he is working now, so Kate has the freedom to take off on her NYC excursions.
Milo really is crazy. In all seriousness, I wonder if she/he ever had a psych evaluation.
Kate should be tweeting very soon about her AMAZING fish in paper dinner.
How many "single moms" are SAHMs? Honestly, don't they realize that Kate DOESN'T WORK! Work to what schedule? Getting her hair and nails done? That Milo is off her rocker.
Kate wants what Kate wants. It is as simple as this. She wants things in life she hasn't earned. She wants people to still believe in her that she and her children are special. By special I mean this mentality of, "Look, Look!" It's the stare factor is what she's after. She wants the attention, that notoriety of being known as Mom of 8. It makes her feel special, it makes her feel above that average mom with say 4 or 5 kids.
Whether or not it's true she shopped around for a reality show, I do believe early on she saw it as a way for her to put herself out there, why? Purely for the fact to gain something. Be it fame, more attention, money, you name it. Kate quit her job because reality TV paid better, that right there said she was in it purely for the money, the ability to have that title of Mom of Multiples, Mom of 8, Star or whatever.
If Kate had been at all happy with what she had she wouldn't have gone that route. She would have/could have said, "No, I don't want a reality show, we are a normal family and we are happy with the way things are." But she didn't. She chose to put herself and her family into the place where once you're on TV, once you allow yourself to become this spectacle you give away any or almost any right you would have had not to be given criticism, questions asked, eyebrows raised.
People look at you and think something isn't right when you as a parent think that reality TV is going to continue to benefit your life. How is having cameras follow you around just because you're a large family beneficial? I don't see it as such.
What I do see is Kate's lack of awareness, her lack of when to cut the strings that gave her life support--TLC and any other major network who had anything to do with her.
Kate wants the easy way out in life because what she did was not be prepared financial to take care of her family. She knew the consequences of fertility yet she went right ahead and did what she wanted to do anyway with or without real smarts about the after point.
I think Kate's goals in life are solely selfish, solely for the gain of something other than "Oh...I'm just a mom, I go to the grocery store the tabs just like to write stories." No. They write stories because she put herself in that position. Nobody told her she had to sign up for reality TV. Kate signed up because it was easier to put herself and her family on stage as an exhibit then it was to work as a nurse and learn to get by on average things.
People who still support her and think she's just this fantastic poor single mother of 8...what has she done to benefit her children other than put them on television? After she quite her job for reality TV what goals did she have for herself when reality TV ended? She's back to where she started by being selfish and waiting for someone to come along and pick her up off her feet because it's easier to rely on other people.
I think she denied it to herself that she would last on TV until her kids hit 18, it was an idiotic statement a statement that said pure and simple she was not willing to do much in the way to actually provide a living. Putting yourself on TV isn't in reality, a living. A living is something you do that you gain, it's more than a paycheck. It allows you to be human and relatable like everyone else.
When she gets off her butt and actually puts to paper what she says she'd be willing to do I think a lot of us wouldn't have nearly as much to say. She put herself out there as an easy way to earn money and attention. I think really she's just too afraid to work. She's too afraid she can't do what she says she can. The longer she waits to admit she's lazy and in need the harder her life is going to be for herself and her family. And she'll have nobody else to blame but herself.
Kate does not want to be a SAHM. She has said time and again that she loves traveling away from home.
You're right Tucker's Mom. Kate just wants the title of SAHM. She wants to be seen as some martyr who has sacrificed everything for her kids. What a pity whore.
All the SAHM's I know actually do a lot of things with their kids and make the most of being home with them. They aren't leaving town every chance they get like the witch does. They also don't complain about being moms day in and day out.
Speaking of jersey shore
The Situation is in rehab for EXHAUSTION
from dlisted..dont read if easily offended
"He has spent the past several weeks at an undisclosed location for much needed rest and recuperation after his extensive production and appearance schedule."
Where I come from, that's called a vacation from a vacation.
You XXs out there who got up at 5 this morning, walked the dog, woke your brats up, poured them cereal, made their lunches, washed your pits in the sink while dressing the young one, drove them to school, drove to work, worked for 5 hours, did your taxes during lunch, worked another 4 hours, drove home, made Hamburger Helper for dinner (I know how gourmet you are), did a load of laundry, spiked your kids' chocolate milk with Lunesta to get them to bed and drank half a bottle of wine by yourself in the garage before falling into a coma MUST be superhuman. Seriously, check your back for circuit breakers, because you're definitely a robot.
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I dont know why but that cracked me up from my depression today. It's how I see kate fan's living and for the life of me I cannot see how they "relate" to kate who gets weekly vacations from her life of vacations
Fleecing the Sheeple said...
What's the name of the mythological creature that just keeps resurrecting itself no matter how many times it's believed to have met its demise?
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I don't know the mythological creature, but when it comes to Kate, I'd compare her to one of the resurrected things in "Pet Sematary". Did you ever see that movie? It's based on one of Stephen King's books, and when dead animals or people are buried in the Pet Sematary they are resurrected as evil, stinking, rotting creatures. Yeah, that's Kate, all right.
EM - Thank you for the kind words.
No worries, I'm happy to be here. Like I said, I get it all the time. So many ways to spell one name.
Sherry Baby - Hi! Nice to meet you. Ah, the Frankie Valli song...I know it well. Grew up with people singing the refrain to me.
Though I more identify with Steve Perry's "Oh, Sherrie"...still yet another way to spell the name.
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Does Milo's fanaticism really go above and beyond celebrity worship? Does this sound like someone who would actually physically cuddle up with her? If given the chance, would she pack up and leave her family to live with Kate? Why would a middle-aged woman be so fascinated and so totally obsessed with another woman? I don't understand it, unless "she" really is a "he."
Pink slime, that good morning tweet is still up. I found it on twitiq.
Sheri, you are so right about how many ways your name is spelled. my best friends was spelled Cheri and yes..everyone sung Oh Sherrie to her.
And for Sherry Baby, I've loved Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons since I was 4. My dad always kept the oldie's station on in the car :0)
Good memories
174 - Milo is strange in her fascination of kate. She is sometimes passive aggressive but mainly is just over the top fawning 24/7.
There was some discussion on Twitter a while back that Milo and Iwannadatekate (he has changed name since) were the same person.
Both spoke the same.
Both use the capitol U for you.
I wanna was the one who knew Milo was in hospital.
Milo tweeted a pic of her feet and they were big manly feet in hiking boots with purple laces, iwanna wore the same shoes in a pic.
There is a pic of Milo's hand holding a stick with a catipillar "for Alexis." The hand was very hairy.
I happened to be looking on twiiter the day THAT rumor was going around and I have to agree, it was a hairy wrist. lol
So who knows, did Milo create Iwannadatekate originally to make her fawning less creepy? Is Milo a man and someone else called Nina's show? Did Milo disguise her voice? Or is she simply a shut in who latched on to kate who has big feet and hairy wrists?
Stay tuned for next's weeks twitisode of KATEPLUSMY8
Oh I forgot. in the hairy wrist Milo's dog was a black lab. In all other pics her dog is a yellow lab. That WAS weird I will admit. I guess iwanna has a dog too and his was black. can't remember. but I did see the 2 different dogs. Someone had posted everything together which is how I saw it all.
I know it's weird but I cant stay on twitter to long reading because it bothers me for some reason. Yet, stupidly I check it once a month. I need to stop even doing that. It makes you insane
From what I can tell, milo's only obsession is Kate. She doesn't follow any other celebrity on Twitter. She seems to have taken it as her mission in life to defend/support Kate no matter what Kate does. She seems to think of herself as Kate's interpreter, she is always spinning what Kate says to put it in the best possible light. And boy, is THAT difficult at times.
She's Nuts said... 165
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 I'm also hopeful that he makes more money so kids benefit & Kate can continue 2b SAHM...workin her own schedule!
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Is Milo on any kind of heavy-duty pain meds? Cause it sure sounds to me like she's popping a whole lot of something funky. She thinks Jon can make enough to keep Kate and the kids in the style to which they have become accustomed--the big mortgage, private school, "helpers", Kate's constant spending...and still have money for himself to live on. Jon would have to make somewhere in the high 6-figures to do that, and I just don't see that happening. He works a normal job. He is not some corporate CEO.
Put down the pill bottle, Milo, and start living in reality.
Yes, Milo, Jon needs to work round the clock 24/7 so Kate and the kids could have nice things.
Jon doesn't need to eat. He could sleep in his mom's van. As long as all his income goes to Kate and Kate and Kate and Kate.
Milo, you are a nut job of huge proportions. Get help.
Jon was held in a contract with TLC until just recently, but he was not making any money off of it. Instead I believe he was still being sued for breach of contract (morality clause or whatever). They were breaking him financially to the point of nearly losing it all (think potential 'bankruptcy').
Kate went along with this because she didn't care how TLC trashed her EX as long as she came out looking and smelling like a rose.
Kate thinks she's 'all that' and a bag of chips, but I will tell you that her day of reckoning is coming. She made Jon's life a living hell especially after the divorce. She would change pick-up times for the kids on Fridays so that she could go where she wanted to. She had Jon so upset at times, but he couldn't do anything but go along with her demands because he wanted to be with the kids. He would have to make extraordinary arrangements at the drop of a hat so the kids would have someone picking them up on her schedule. She's an evil, horrible, wench. There, I've said it.
I'm sick of the lies being told about Jon and feel badly that he can't speak up - even still.
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Milo would probably do better PR for kate than anyone else would. She is a great spin doctor. Unfortunately she comes across as annoying so even her spinning could not help kate. It's TOO over the top in it's wording. Milo loves kate. No one will ever take that away from her. Milo is die hard kate for life. If it gets her thru the day I guess go for it.
I get confused tho. Milo claims she cant bathe often, can barely walk to the kitchen..yet she talks of of her walk long walks thru the wilderness all the time. Milo gets kate because Milo herself is a riddle. For a mom of 2 she NEVER EVER speaks of her boys or the things they do together. It is literally ass kissing from sunup to "lite's out." She's actually smart for keeping her kids out of the discussion..yet she implores kate for info on the G8.
When she first came around I looked at her feed for a few days. She posts a lot. All to kate, or all about kate. Fighting the haters and defending kate's honor and then tweeting to kate for accolades for the beatings she took. I was amused until I realized that it wasn't normal and I didn't need to alter my own reality by reading such drivel.
When kate's twitter 1st went up I read it. I am so glad I chose not to follow. Fast forward 1 year and it's crazy. I have only been on to read 6 times since. I'm soooo glad I stayed away and only lurked.
Actually truth be told. This is the ONLY blog I have ever posted on. I have a phobia of being stalked on the internet but the posters here were so witty and on point I wanted to join in. I lurked a year before even saying hi.
This summer will be interesting. Kate will have the kids with her all day, every day. This will be her first summer EVER with all the kids and without Jon or TLC there to help her. The kids will be tearing around, making noise, making messes. Kate will "need" nannnies, housekeepers, lawn care, pool care...just to keep up. That's going to take some serious cash. She claims she can't afford to take the kids to the beach, but there's no way she's going to do all that work herself. So, she can afford "help" to make HER life easier, but can't afford a vacation for the kids. So sad...
By the way, I have a large family, and I manage without all that "help". One lady I know from church has 13 kids, and she doesn't have "help". We manage. We work hard. But somehow I don't see Kate doing that.
KK being hauled into court without the might of TLC lawyers? That could be fun.
Do you guys think sheeple love the "old" kate? The organized, Christian, harried married mom of 8 with family, friends and babies?
Or do you think they like the divorced, miniskirt, high heel, diva, eye rolling, boobage baring reality stah? I cant decide the answer. The few sure remained faithful thru an almost 180 in demeanor. I mean, kate was always a bitch, but she hid it differently in earlier shows.
On the same note..which kate do you think normal fans (not sheep) like? Are these the ones watching reruns of Jon and Kate or are these NEW KATE fans? Do they even see the difference or did kate morph slowly enough that they couldn't notice?
Michelle said... 155 "If she really wants this TV career, is she working to improve her skills at all or is she just expecting to be handed something with little to no effort on her part again? Seeing the little clip of her talking about Coupon Cabin in the silver dress with that other mom, she just comes across as so flat. No spark or TV presence at all."
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You're right Michelle, Kate is waiting for someone to hand her a job that will pay a shizload of money with little to no effort from her. Because for three years, she got a TV network to pay her a shizload of money for going on vacation, making improvements to her home and throwing birthday parties for the tups. She's not looking to work harder and make less. She wants the same money for the same no effort.
Her horrible behavior on DWTS was a little glimpse of the actual work ethic of this "hardworking and determined" individual. She signed up to be on a dancing show but didn't want to learn to dance. She berated Tony for "not teaching her the right way"... like there is any other way? It was clear she wanted the attention, the PR, the face time on TV and to mingle with other celebs, but she was not interested in hard work and actually striving to win the competion. Kate usually walks or runs away from things/people she cannot control/bully, but in this case she couldn't and viciously took it out on Tony. Who, in the first time in the history of the show walked off and quit for a short time.
I do believe Kate's many visits to "The View" and the one on "The Talk" were a tryout or looksee of sorts. I would bet she was viewed by executives who likely realized very quickly Kate was no talk show host. She had no interest in discussing current events or even pretending to be interested in other guests, she always swings the conversation to "me me all about meeee!" Even the few times ET gave her the mic for the skating show (I think?) it was all about her. Her reported horrible behavior shooting the Paula Deen pilot plus her notorious reputation for treating hair and makeup folk like dirt is surely well documented, as well.
When she said the other day that she's been asked to be on Celebrity Apprentice, my first reaction was that she was, as usual, a lying sack of shit ala lying about being asked to be in Playboy. But the more I thought about it, I think I believe her. She has a terrible reputation and she messed up The Donald's hair, but at the end of the day he is a businessman. He knows what ratings it would bring to watch the other z-listers put her on a skewer and roast her over a spit. Over Kate's dead body will she go on a show where she is expected to earn money for a charity, be a team player, work her contacts (she has none) to raise money and have to take brutal critcisim. Kate can't control and dictate this. She'll never do it.
My prediction is that she is never going to work in the entertainment business is any serious capacity ever again. Just like there are people who are functioning alchoholics, IMO Kate is a functioning severely mentally ill person. She's Hollywood poison, but she will not acknowlege this. Also IMO, she's going to sit in her Konpound and stubbornly wait for that "next big job" until the bank forecloses.
Gift of grab said...
From what I can tell, milo's only obsession is Kate. She doesn't follow any other celebrity on Twitter. She seems to have taken it as her mission in life to defend/support Kate no matter what Kate does.
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Thanks for answering my question. Does anyone know when Milo started her/his/it's obsession with KK? I think people here have said she's used other names and has had other personalities?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 I'm also hopeful that he makes more money so kids benefit & Kate can continue 2b SAHM...workin her own schedule!
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It's 2012, not 1950. Kate brags she has a 'college degree'. Her children are in school all day. Why shouldnt she be working at a job?
She should be a SAHM, more like a Stay At Home And Tweet Milo. What is wrong with these people?
I hate to grab the phrase of so many others, but really... ya cant make this stuff up.
Milo claims she cant bathe often, can barely walk to the kitchen..yet she talks of of her walk long walks thru the wilderness all the time.
Ewwwww (the bathing!)...
If she takes these long walks, then why was she asking Kate if Kate would push her wheelchair on the cruise? I don't get it...
There's something clearly not right there, and yes, I think that she's in love with Kate, way past the celebrity fascination.
"Or is she simply a shut in who latched on to kate who has big feet and hairy wrists?"
...and doesn't take a bath! :)
I missed how you all figured out she was in NYC at the hair salon today. I didn't see a tweet about it and she usually doesn't tweet when she is PB. She is doing her distracted + tweets today.
So who knows, did Milo create Iwannadatekate originally to make her fawning less creepy? Is Milo a man and someone else called Nina's show?
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Didn't Iwana meet Kate at a charity event? Wouldn't it be more logical to assume that Iwana created Milo? If they are the same, then it would have been Milo, a woman, who showed up to meet Kate, not Iwana, the man.
Does that make sense?
There's some reason that Milo isn't going on the cruise, and I don't think it's because of his/her health.
Hope I'm not breaking rules by discussing Milo. I know she is a person with feelings yet she seems to be a tough bird with a super thick skin so I always assume she can handle it. I also think she is relishing in her "celebrity"
I don't have negative feelings towrds her thats for sure. IF she is who she says she is she is loyal for sure. I just understand the mentality of blindly following someone no matter how wrong they are.
I often wonder...if the haters left twitter..would the "fans" stay? Or do they just like the cause of fighting for kate. I actually think if it were ONLY fans on twitter the FANS would turn on each other and rip each other to shreads to vie for top spot in kate's life.
I wish I weren't so fascinated in human psychology so I could turn away from this saga. It's like a psychiatrists dream..HOW DID DR DREW NOT WANT TO STUDY THIS MESS. He missed out doing the hand holding. He would have hit ratings gold if he tried to analyze this situation.
Pity Party said... 191
I missed how you all figured out she was in NYC at the hair salon today. I didn't see a tweet about it and she usually doesn't tweet when she is PB. She is doing her distracted + tweets today. --------
If you go to her twitter page, click on her follow list, and then click on the guys name (don't remember his name).
He said something today about doing her hair today, or something that implied it.
Done and done said... 151
I am sorry for the sadness in your family right now, and for the loss of your dear aunt. I have a long list for prayers tonight and will add you and your father to it. Thank you for your story, it touched me.
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Great summation! I agree with everything you said. You are very articulate and very wise. :)
She's admitting to Kate and the world that Kate has absolutely no talent or money-making skills.
Jon MUST support Kate and the kids because Kate is a useless piece of CRAP. Hear that, Kate fans? She's about as useful as tits on a board. Well, not THAT useful.
Layla, someone said Kate was worth 20 million. I think she may be worth 10 million. She is rich no doubt she has paid her house off. She has enough money to live on the rest of her life if she watches what she does with her money.
It's so interesting. Kate is so black and white, I have NO doubts what I think about her. But Jon...he's quite the conundrum.
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I agree. I was worried when he came out of the gate arguing, taunting and talking with his entertainment reps, but he seems to have evened out. Nothing has come of it since his first burst of freedom, and everyday he isn't on tv or engaging with the twitter loonies he gets closer and closer to wiping out the years he exploited his kids and his years as an enabler in their abuse.
Keep on keepin on Jon.
Kate has fake tits any way. I call them balloon boobies.
Done and done, I am so sorry for your loss.
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