Mom Melissa Ziegler was shocked about the routine, although she didn't forbid her kids to participate. |
Maybe networks are finally listening to casual viewers, child development experts and even celebrities (Katherine Heigl, no less!) about protecting reality T.V kids. When the public expressed outrage over an episode that featured the famous Dance Moms girls in risqué Showgirls costumes that bared so much skin even their pushy moms were mortified, Lifetime quietly did something about it. The episode did not re-air tonight as it normally would have just before the premiere of the new episode, is no longer available on the Lifetime web site (the latest full episode was always available for viewing online following the air date), it has been pulled from Hulu and other similar sources, and is difficult if not impossible to find on Youtube. Radaronline still has a clip of the routine, but we expect that to disappear soon as well.
Here's what prompted Lifetime to do something about the horrible mistake they made airing this episode:
Psychologist Rachel A. Sussman said: "Forcing a child to dress and perform in a provocative way can have wide spread negative effects. If you put a child into an adults-only situation (where they clearly don’t belong), they may be very confused about their developmental stage and their sexual identity. It can cause depression, anxiety and low self esteem. Furthermore, they may have trust issues. Also, they are receiving very poor parenting, which can set them up for a lifetime of negative attachment issues."
Actress Katherine Heigl said: "I kept thinking all these girls were missing is a pole! I was also horrified by the way their instructor spoke to them when she felt they weren’t up to snuff. It was demeaning, belittling, and downright unkind. My daughter was in the room at the time as was my mother and I kept looking over at my perfect, innocent and beautiful child wondering how can I protect her from what the world is becoming. It terrifies me, the amount of value we place on a woman’s looks, body, and ability to drop it like it’s hot on the dancefloor. It’s one thing to walk into a club and see twentysomethings embracing their sexuality and having some fun, but it’s another thing altogether watching seven-year-olds shake their booties, bellies, and nonexistent boobies on a stage in a room full of adults and be handed a trophy for it. What in the world are we telling them? That sexy is the prize and is the talent they have?"
Psychologist Dr. Nancy Irwin: “As a treatment professional of sex offenders, I can tell you that adults who are attracted to minors definitely seek out shows just like this to whet their appetites. They may attend the shows in-person, watch them on TV and seek out Facebook still photos and YouTube clips to pleasure themselves. The sexual body movements are more concerning than the costumes.”
Journalist Daisy Dumas: "Lifetime's Dance Moms has hit new lows by asking its child contestants - the youngest of whom is just eight-years-old - to dress in nude bikinis and perform a burlesque routine on stage. The raunchy dance moves are usually the domain of striptease experts, the X-rated acts brimming with nudity, nipple tassels and sexually explicit poses."
Human behavior expert Patrick Wanis, PhD: “This condones, encourages and motivates adults to imagine little girls dancing naked for their pleasure. Of course it will arouse pedophiles and offer them a new legal avenue to engage in their lustful thoughts as they watch the little girls ‘nude’ on television.”
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 583 of 583 Newer› Newest»Has she considered the globe may just have peeled by itself? It's cheap! Normal wear and tear will do that. Why not praise te kids for actually using it and trying to learn something. Lord know Kate isn't teaching them much.
That whole thing was such bullshit..she needed something to wwrite about...plain and simple. She's running out of material because all she does is sit on her flat ass all day. I can't stomach her anymore...
I seriously hope a child psychologist/parenting expert weighs in on Kate's new blog post. There are so many things in her post that experts warn against (shaming/guilt trips/etc)
Also, we've seen Kate handle "discipline" in her "realest reality show". She's not as calm, cool and collected as she made herself out to be in her blog post. I dare to bet those kids were scared sh*tless! :(
So the "guilty" one was told to apologize to Joel for "letting him take the heat". What about all the others, especially Cara "who decided that Joel looked very guilty. Everyone heartily agreed!"
Kate should not only apologize to Joel for assuming he was guilty, she should apologize to him and all the kids for writing this blog and for throwing them under the bus in order to make her look like a wonderful mother.
This paragraph disturbs me the most. She is taking this way out of proportion.
"Disgustedly, I hauled it to the kitchen and got out my super glue gel. I glued it back together and figured it was “good as new,” but it nagged at me. Who, of my kids, would deface property and think nothing of it? I am very clear with them about respecting our own belongings and especially others belongings. It’s an important lesson and I have taught it well, or so I thought"
She is taking this as a personal assault against her. She must somehow think that the kids did this just to hurt her. She is blowing it out of proportion by saying that they defaced her property. It was probably not an intentional act. These things happen. It never even crossed her mind that it could have just happened on its own. Stickers wear out and fall off all of the time. Why make a big deal out of it? She reminds me of my mother who would blow up over the smallest thing. Its so hard to live your entire life walking on egg shells.
She also sneaked in the part about her children seeing 'most of the globe."
Interesting she named Cara as the one who thought Joel looked guilty. I wonder if this was to defect the unfairness of assuming guilt before proof, or if this was true.After seeing Cara's behavior on the RV episode to Clay, once taking a fit about sharing musical instruments and when they talked about discipline, how Cara bottles things up, you have to wonder about her. She has a lot of anger. Mady was the one here who had a solution to this problem. Seems the twins have changed in favoritism in Kate's eyes
I'm not surprise that surviving in the Gosselin house means living by the laws of the jungle. Especially for the boys who must know by now they are at the bottom of the food chain. I hope all of the 8 stand up for each other, as we've seen them do, but their comes a point when a child just has to plain survive and if to do that means placing the blame firmly on someone else...
Has anyone thought that maybe the poor child took out her frustrations out on the globe as a way to express herself.
1: Child was upset for mom always leaving them.
2: Child was upset because all mom talks about is how she wants to go away and can't now.
3: Globe represents TLC (or TV events) that caused family to break apart?
I'm just doing my own chair side analysis, but these kids are still too young to fully articulate how they feel and could be acting out their feelings of frustration. Besides, they live with a narcissistic mother who only cares about her own needs.
How are your kids to know this when you get to stay in a beautiful beach house in NC for free and decide it's a great place for your kids to
have a food fight?
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I also remember reading accounts about the mess they left in hotel rooms when they checked out. Respecting the property of others? Yeah, right!
Why is the globe automatically belong to Kate? Shouldn't it be one of those possesions that belongs to the whole family? Oh, wait, I forgot it's all "MINE MINE MINE"
They don't all stand up for each other. Plan A is to blame one of the boys. Hey, it usually works.
This thing is too funny. Of course it's a story about our favorite pap -- Hugh E Dillon. I'm sure it didn't happen yesterday and Pizza Boy advised to drop it, so this is what she came up with.
That being said, some have expressed doubts about Katie flipping out and then 20 minutes later "honestly" forgetting about it. What would cause her to go to her lair, close (lock??) the door and forget about it? I'm going to guess phone sex with Pizza Boy.
Gertrude said... 130
How come everyone keeps saying Kate should be more concerned with global happenings, specifically Syria?
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Hi Gertrude. I dont think it is the specifics of Syria or world events that anyone is deliberatly bringing up. It's just Kate going on and on about how hard her entire world is because the kids' globe was damaged, one kid had a headache, and she found a grain of sugar on the counter or whatever. This all happened in the same calendar month for her, so she tweets that she can certainly understand how someone else is in pain over life-limiting illness, putting a parent in a nursing home, a tornado blowing away someone's home --- well, she GETS it, because HER life is clearly so hard too! See above re: The Tribulations of Poor Katie!
Syria was brought up because a poster here has family there; while Kate CARRIES ON about how unfair her miserable life is because she chipped an expensive acrylic nail, our poster was wondering if her family has been murdered yet.
I think the point others are trying to make is that it only takes a minor routine occurance in her life to send her into a rage, self pity party, out of control thoughts and racing emotions of fear. If she had any sense at all of the world she lives in, she might be a bit grateful AND GRACIOUS about the many things and blessings she is surrounded with. But, noooo....
We get it that Kate enjoys being obsessed and controlling. But it's too bad that she cant put that energy into, say, using her property to grow food for a food bank. She is only obsessed about things that hurt the feelings of others or make herself the object of attention. It's disgusting to her to THINK of anything that would HELP anyone at all.
Wow Kate so you're comparing your own kid to whatHugh did? I like te term abomination used the other day. Yeah that's what she is.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 197
Stick a post it note on her she's done.
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Love this! I remember when you did the thread w/ the visual of the fork in her.
This would make a great graphic (post-it note stuck on her) for a new thread...you could use the pic of her leaning over the Crystal Ball at her tarot-card reading and call it a Globe!
Wow! Of all people- Katie teaching her children not to be liars.
Good luck trying to teach those kids something that is foreign to Katie.
The kids stand a better chance at learning not to lie from Shoka, than they do with their mom-ster.
Kid: But mommy, you lie all the time.
Complusive Liar & Mother: Do as your mother says- not what your mother does.
JudyK said... 92
Anonymous #81...I'm very good at recognizing writing styles. You sound exactly like the person who got snippy w/ Administrator and me a few days ago: Great vocabulary, great writing ability, perfect grammar/punctuation, with an uncanny ability to be snotty, insulting, rude, and condescending. Just like money can't buy class, having a way with the English language doesn't make you any less a bitch.
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LOL. I feel the same way about you, so I guess we're even. I care about the opinions of family and friends, but am not concerned with how complete strangers on the Internet view me. If it makes your day to rip into me, have at it!
Tamara said... 11
Why is the globe automatically belong to Kate? Shouldn't it be one of those possesions that belongs to the whole family? Oh, wait, I forgot it's all "MINE MINE MINE"
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Well put and may I second that? I am sure she is snapping back at us right now saying, "Yeah, well they can all get jobs and get their OWN globe! I grifted this one with my very own furrowed brow!" MINE MINE ALL MINE!!!
My 3rd daughter called this morning and was taking a pleasant trip down memory lane and kept recalling "OUR car" and "OUR house" and "OUR garden" from her teenage years. Never 'mom's car' or 'mom's house'. I just love knowing that she has pleasant memories of us being a solid family.
I'm surprised she didn't take a picture of the globe, before and after, to show how she brilliantly fixed it to almost new status.
My name for this episode would be "Global Warning".
I think the appalling thing about this whole thing, is how the sheeple are giving her glowing comments about it, but don't see how wrong it was to write about her kids this way. To them it's okay for her to throw anyone under the bus, even her kids.
I guess like Kate, they just don't get it.
My name for this episode would be "Global Warning".
That almost made me snort tea all over my computer screen.
"I am very clear with them about respecting our own belongings and especially others belongings. It’s an important lesson and I have taught it well, or so I thought"
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Yep....kids' art tossed into trash can; Mady and Cara's possessions tossed down the stairs when she "cleaned" their bedroom.....all recorded for the kids to see. Yes, Kate has taught them well.
JudyK said... 15
you could use the pic of her leaning over the Crystal Ball at her tarot-card reading and call it a Globe!
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Solved! We now know what the conversation with the psychic was about. Who ripped the globe? Katie laid out the pics (like in the earphone screw-up interview) and the psychic picked .... Joel.
What would Kreider do if one of her kids did what my teenager did..,leave a brand new digital camera on an airplane, never to be seen again?
AMD: yes!...and her throwing 'upstairs toys' downstairs breaking a toy BBQ set; her throwing out anything the icky kids' hands touched while baking; the garage sale where she tried to sell the twins' precious ornaments from Poppy...
How's this for shitty. Anyone who gets laid off tomorrow does not get severance pay. We get paid weekly, so on Friday it will be "take your final check and get out."
Even if by a miracle I make it though what will probably be only the 1st round of layoffs, how will I feel knowing my company let's people go who have worked so hard without even a severance, or even a hint? I am not even supposed to know about the layoffs. The are going to blindside everyone on a Friday giving them all weekend to worry. Talk about pins and needles. I am just grateful someone secretly told me so I can mentally prepare for tomorrow regardless of the outcome.
Sorry to highjack thread. Just needed to get it out there and remind people kate does not have it bad. She had severance. TLC didn't dump her, they weaned her until contract expired. She still can afford to flop around all day not looking for work. She instead is waiting for her dream talk show to land in her lap. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if it did. She's always gotten what she wanted.
To finish my thought. kate always gets what she wants, then destroys it. She has been HANDED everything and still manages to screw it up. Like someone listed
MomLogic
Clothing Line
Author (failed when she had to write her own)
Reality Star
The pack a lunch promotion
Dancing with the stars
Happily married to supporting husband.
Heck, she even screws up charity.
Don't worry...no talk show is landing in HER lap...
This is Border Collie, and I have typed comments and not had them go through on google like it used to, so sorry for anon but what else can I do?
Admin and others, I've had ulcers for 30 years off and on so know about having them young. I've been tested for h pylori many times during endoscope and it doesn't show up. It sure hurts, like a drill from stomach to back, and my ulcers pop up in the stomach near where it empties so when inflamed, no food or liquid can pass through. Have had to have IV's sometimes from dehydration. I've often wanted h pylori so it could be treated, but struggle on trying to rest for a couple of weeks and be very careful eating when I feel one coming on again. Anyway, it feels good to know others, even at a young age like me, have had trouble for years. Not that you have trouble, but that I have company. Usually people think you are crazy or malingering until they see you have lost another 10 pounds and look ghastly.
Hello, am I the only one whose kids drew on the walls with a sharpie? Why the hyperbole over a fixable problem? No harm, no foul, and why assume those kids tried to disgust mommy in the first place? Yeah, lesson for the day: Mommy's bat-shit cray cray and may be going away for a while.
The Google thing only works erratically for me, too.
Now I do the drop down, select Name/URL, type in my name, skip the URL box,, click continue, then publish. Works like a charm. I use the same name every time.
Nice of you to identify yourself border collie.
When my youngest daughter was 3, she was a little monkey. She drew all over the walls. At first, it was annoying and she was told it was wrong. She kept doing it and then I gave up and just thought it was funny. Our house was covered in her artwork. I laugh now because I think it was cute. She was three and that's what they can do at that age. Now she is 17 and is a wonderful kid. I love that memory of her and her mischievious nature.
Why is Kate isolating herself in her room after dinner and why does a young child have to knock on her door? That is sick. Kate must be sitting on her bed with her laptop reading this blog and doesn't want to get busted by her kids. Or she's drinking. Sounds about right. Sounds like she is leading/hiding a different life in her bedroom...........
Another thought-wouldn't most children when they accidentally broke something try to fix it themselves, or even try to hide the fact that they did? Especially if they have a mother like Kate, who loses control about the simplest thing.
Nothing about this story makes any sense. If you want to write about teaching your children to be honest, at least make it believable. The way she rambles on and on(and of course just has to mention the dinner menu) makes me think the whole thing is a fabrication or an extreme exaggeration.
Katie Cry-duh said... 178
Who wants to name this episode of Kate Plus 8?
How about KaGo Goes Global!!!!!!
--Blue Angel
Katie Cry-duh said... 23
What would Kreider do if one of her kids did what my teenager did..,leave a brand new digital camera on an airplane, never to be seen again?
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Or when my daughter was about eight (8) and riding her bike around the neighborhood to collect money for a school function and lost more than $35.00 before she got home? She also left her return airline ticket on a plane once when she was going to visit her father.
As Ashley said to Kate on the RV trip, "I'm so tired of your dramatics!"
"I am very clear with them about respecting our own belongings and especially others belongings. It’s an important lesson and I have taught it well, or so I thought"
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ADM: Yep....kids' art tossed into trash can; Mady and Cara's possessions tossed down the stairs when she "cleaned" their bedroom.....all recorded for the kids to see. Yes, Kate has taught them well.
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Once a Viewer said... 24
AMD: yes!...and her throwing 'upstairs toys' downstairs breaking a toy BBQ set; her throwing out anything the icky kids' hands touched while baking; the garage sale where she tried to sell the twins' precious ornaments from Poppy...
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And Collin's bear during gumgate. Yes, she really taught them "disgustedly" well...
Well I was just told to lose my job or take a nearly 50 percent pay cut.
Maybe Kate's keeping Steve locked in the bedroom and that's why the kids have to knock be for entering.
EM - so very sorry for you and your family.
After reading this latest tirade of Kate's i am 100% convinced that this bitch is bat-shit crazy. Why the big fuss about a god dam globe that she grifted to begin with. I grew up with 3 brothers and when my parents would ask who did something and we would all say "I don't know" they would laugh and say "AHH the I don't know ghost strikes again." They didn't make a federal case out of it let alone tell the entire neighborhood about it.
EM - So sorry to hear I could tell you where worried :(
Sorry if anyone has said this already, but there is one reason, and one reason alone for Kate's latest blog post - to make herself look good. Damage control is pretty much always the motivation for a new post showing up. This one is poorly written, as usual, and at best a pathetic attempt to get her "adoring public" to see how wonderful she is. I have begun to pity her more and more. I wish she would just stop. She is embarrassing herself and her entire family.
Think about it. Her three year affair with Steve came very close to being exposed a few days ago. In her mind, all she has to do is convince her "adoring public" that honesty is a virtue that she "never compromises" (chuckle). So she writes that mess. HughE MUST be portrayed as the villain here, so we can clearly see her sparkling halo.
Unfortunately, she is so lacking in self-awareness, she has no idea that no halfway decent parent would have handled a problem that way, IF this ever happened at all. Singling out Joel as the scapegoat in the story is so outrageous it makes my blood boil. If it DID happen, I wonder if she apologized to him!
Bonus item: She doesn't underfeed her kids. They get spaghetti AND bread AND brussel sprouts (Really? With spaghetti?) AND ICE CREAM POPSICLES. Oh my gosh. Ain't she the shiznit?
Those poor kids don't have a clue what it's like to have an honest mother. That's the tragedy in all this.
Sue Buddy,
Thanks for that article,it was spot on.I feel sorry that Kate's biggest fan thinks Kate actually cares anything about her.This fan needs to find a real person, not Kate who only sees problems as they relate to her.Kate could have said"I'm so sorry that you're going through this difficult time, how can I help you?"
A few kind words go a long way and help you feel that you have been heard mostly.Kate has no depth or one iota of empathy in her entire body.Biggest fan, you could get more from your pet by holding it and telling it your fears and sadness. Most people don't know the right thing to say in these situations, Kate just doesn't care.
I worked for many, many years admitting family members to hospitals, hospices, and nursing and extended care homes.You have to be an emotionally involved person, and care enough to want all involved have as easy a transition as possible.
It really makes me wonder why these fans think Kate could help them in any way? She's so phony and shallow in every aspect of her daily life.It's such a sickening waste of time to ask Kate about anything,better to talk to anyone else but her.
It makes me sad that people like Biggest fan waste so much valuable time on her, just to get shot down again and again. Kate, you are a sick and nasty woman, get over yourself and try and salvage what little time there is left to enable your children a fighting chance as they grow up. Go to Hollywood, just leave the kids with Jon and the rest of their family.
I know you won't because of all your pesonality disorders, but that would be the kindest thing to do for your kids.The highest "golden platter" care they so deserve.
EM- so sorry. I hope you can find a new position soon. What a rough time you've had. xo
Sorry, sticky keys to-day. That should read personality disorders.
Does anyone else think she could be attempting to set the stage for her reaction in case a really damning picture is published soon? "I'm so honest this can't be true. Look away now. Nothing to see here."
Her reaction to this whole mess has been way too over the top for there not to be some truth in it. I think she knows there are pictures of her and Steve out there that for whatever reason they've been able to squash up to this point.
Sorry to read about the job situation, EM. That really sucks.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 57
Fairy I'm sorry I took your question as condescending......and I'm still suspicious.
I got salmonella poisoning years ago when I was studying abroad. I don't recommend it. My poo came out as tar...
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Not to get overly personal here, but in case the nurses on this board dont mention, I thought *I* would. The kind of stool that admin mentions can often be caused by blood in the intestines or stomach. If you see this in the bathroom, run - dont walk - to your doctor. Even the Nurse Practioner at the drug store chain can get you started in the right direction. Please, dont let that go unattended, it can be very serious.
I am only a medical social worker, not a nurse or doc. :-)
My son did the whole wall art thing when he was about 3 and we were living in government quarters in Germany. What can you do? You massage your temples and think "shit!", but then, becasue you're the adult and the parent you know that he didn't do it to be destructive or to piss you off. He did it becasue you'd just been on a trip to Berlin and kept commenting on the graffiti and wall art on the Berlin Wall (yes, many years ago).
And the balls on that bitch for actually posting a second link to her crappy blog post - see ME, read ME, love ME. Her self involvement is so audacious that she cannot see that once again she has sold out her children, told the world about them, used their names, made them look bad, all over absolutely nothing. And then she goes to her room and shuts the door. WTF? What mother does this with children roaming around before bedtime? Chores? Cannot even imagine, siince Queenie complains about how she does everything, everything. These poor kids.
Koopdedoo,
I was just reading other thread and saw your greeting, sorry for not responding before. It is good to be back and very nice to be recognized in a hello.
Most of the time I just post and if someone responds, fine. If not, it sure wouldn't stop me from posting again. Don't sweat the small stuff, and it's all small stuff.
Anonymous, maybe if you used a name or initials at the end of post, someone would respond to you.I just scroll past people who can't own their comments.
EM said... 25
How's this for shitty. Anyone who gets laid off tomorrow does not get severance pay. We get paid weekly, so on Friday it will be "take your final check and get out."
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EM, I fully understand where you are coming from. Four years ago the company I worked had two or three layoffs and we got down to a skeleton crew. One night before leaving work they called us all in and told us that when we come in the next day to come for a meeting so the city could tells us expectations to meet goals. The next day I went in and the first person I met said we were closing down Christmas day. Wow, how about that. The last 800 got laid off Christmas day. I have worked collectively 8 months in 4 yrs.
Wow, but let me encourage you some if I can. I never thought things would work out but they did. Didn't have all I wanted but I had all I needed. Don't lose faith, it always comes to pass. When things seemed hopeless I tried to think back to times in the past that I thought my world was coming down all around me and I wouldn't make it. There were times I didn't even want to make it, I think you can guess what I mean. Well I'm still here and I'm glad that I grabbed the smallest thread, and I don't mean 15 min. thread, hehe, and I'm still here 4 yrs later. They will work out. Take care, hang in there, and my prayers will go to heaven on your behalf.
P.S. I posted this on another thread, but I think it's worth saying again. If you click publish and you find you lost your post, click on the "back arrow" and the page and your work will show up again. It did me. Just a FYI
When my son was about 10, we were car pooling home with two of his friends. I asked him and question and he lied with his response. A lie, big time! I knew. I was ready with words of challenge and correction.
Then, I realized how embarrassing our conversation would be in front of his friends. When we got home I wrote a note to my son -- something "profound" about honesty and trust. I slipped it in with his homework papers.
Later that night, I found the note on my pillow with his reply on the backside. He was contrite. He said that the lie had just popped out of his mouth and he didn't know how to fix it . He made several promises to me and to himself about honesty in his future.
Son is a grown man now with a successful life. A few years ago, I was helping him move. I found that note in his home desk drawer. He had laminated it and saved it.
You just never know what will be remembered years later...wonder what impression was left on Joel?
Katie Cry-duh said... 29
Hello, am I the only one whose kids drew on the walls with a sharpie? Why the hyperbole over a fixable problem?
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Hehehe... When my husband was in kindergarten, (REAL kindergarten age of 5, not whatever age KATE thinks is kindergarten) his parents were having a garage sale. So hubby, trying to be a helper, took a big thick permanent marker and wrote "25 CENTS" all over his parents stunning old walnut dressers.
Like I said, hehehe. He was apparently given cans of stain and told to fix the dressers. Of course they were never the same again. We have them now and have returned them to a wonderful wood condition. To this day, he recalls being scolded and feeling really bad but the end of the world did not occur. Oh and he was one of seven children.
And Kate? one of those kids died suddenly of pnuemonia as a child and another died during his final year of Catholic Seminary of a sudden heart attack. No, you will NOT be in charge forever.
Oh, Em.....I'm soooo sorry.
EM - Sorry to hear that. Hope that things begin to look up for you as you seem to be having your fair share of trouble lately. My thoughts and prayers are with you.
About Kate's latest and ridiculous blog post about the globe...
This has been eating at me ever since I read it.
Obviously it was her precious golden child, Hannah, who defaced the globe. That's why she wasn't punished. I believe with everything in me that if it were Alexis or one of the boys, they would've been harshly punished.
And I doubt very seriously that Kate handled this calmly. Dresser knob anyone? I think she yelled and screamed and scared the crap out of those kids just like she did with the dresser knob at the old house.
But what bothers me the absolute most, is that Cara decided Joel was the guilty one, and he then became the prime suspect and probably took most of Kate's wrath.
It bothers me that Kate told said golden child ( who was not going to be punished )that her confession would be kept a secret so the other kids wouldn't know it was her. So that means the rest of the kids get to keep thinking it was Joel. I know she told golden child to apologize to Joel, but then wouldn't that let the secret get out? Wouldn't Joel then tell the others it was golden child who did it?
Why on earth would Kate allow Cara to decide who she thought was guilty just by looks?
I think Kate AND the other 7 kids all owed Joel an apology. Not just the guilty golden child. She has taught her kids they can judge others just by looking at them.
And for God's sake it was just a globe( and sounds like a cheap one if can be peeled so easily ). Good Lord that woman is a spaz! I like how she complained before about being over disciplined when she was young, yet she is the QUEEN of over disciplining children.
If you ask me, I think Kate and the other kids ganged up on poor Joel and made him feel like crap. There is nothing worse than being accused of something you didn't do. And she thinks she's a great mother? I think she handled the whole thing all the wrong way and hurt one of her son's feelings in the process.
I don't agree at all that the precious golden child who did it was punished enough from guilt. She gave the kid a chance to confess without consequences, she didn't, so she should have been punished ( just like Alexis or the boys would've ). Instead, she was rewarded with praise.
Kate is just like a septic tank. So full of $#!%.
I can't stand her. I really can't. The only reason she wrote that stupid post was because she thinks she's mother of the year.
@ EM - I just want to wish you luck, dear. So many of us have been near to where you are. Yes, you are at a new crossroads in your life, and it is so painful. And frightening. My dear sister once told me "If you only could know NOW, what you are going to know THEN..."
Dont lose yourself, your courage, your decency, your heart. You. Will. Be. OK. If you need to chat, click on my blue name and you can reach me there.
In the meantime, I hope to make you smile a silly one by telling you that you are AMAZING!!!!!!! STRONG!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!!! LOVING!!!!!!!!!!!!! HARDWORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!! DETERMINED!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BESTEST MOM EVAH!!!!!!!!!! SOME MORE AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND MORE BULLSHIT I CANT THINK OF RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!! :)
Good theory; I figured it was Cara ( those long nails) or Leah or Hannah. But who knows. I just think anyone else would be punished and humiliated- geez Joel was, and he wasn't even guilty. In Kate's book, she mentioned a lie Mady had told about a towel ( big time stuff) and publicly humiliated her..
EM==I too want to tell you how sorry I am.
From experience, I can tell you that the equator will wear off when kids play with a globe, ours always did. What an educational toy, she should be happy they play with it. At least I always was, we used to look on the globe anytime one of the kids would ask where something was. But then, I am just a "mediocre" mom. For pete's sake, she has 8 kids, does this mean they are not allowed to "touch" anything in the mansion?
Kate goes what, two days off her leash and this is what happens?
I predict that within a year, bitch is going to be institutionalized.
One way or another.
My thought for a title.
"Global Meltdown: Gosselin Style"
Oh and Em. I'm really sorry. Hubby is waiting on pins and needles here to see what dept. will be sacrificed in his company as well. It's truly tragic and I'm so sorry you have to go through so much! !
EM - I am so sorry to hear, but don't give up. This may be God's way of giving you the time you need to deal with your other problems before something better comes along. It will rough for a while, but I promise it will get better. I will keep praying for you and your family.
The important lesson that the kids (and anyone reading it) got out of the globeincident is that you are a supreme douche! I picture the kids at the table and Kate walking around behind them slaping a riding crop against her thigh saying (in a bad German accent) "you vill tell me da truth".
EM, sorry to hear about your job. I've been laid off before too, not a good feeling at all especially when you've worked hard, and gave a lot of yourself in performing your job to do nothing wrong and to lose your job is hard.
Also, the staff at the unemployment office were very helpful to me. They offer a bunch of classes, will help you write up your resume, have training classes on interviewing. They are a big resource and shouldn't be over-looked.
I have just skipped through the posts so I don't know if anyone mentioned this. I saw on the news last night that gas is going ski high in the near future and flight prices will go up nearly 50 percent. I couldn't help but think of the small print about the gas on the cruise. There is nothing I hate more than not knowing the final cost of things when I'm on a tight budget and I have to travel, or, have locked in my travel and now it's more or I lose my deposit.
Good grief, what does the Führer do if, god forbid one of them spills their Juicy Juice?
Kate will be part of a E special "E True Hollywood Story: Biggest Scandals Ever".
Monday, March 19th, 10 p.m.
I feel the same way about you, so I guess we're even. I care about the opinions of family and friends, but am not concerned with how complete strangers on the Internet view me
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If someone acts like a snotty bitch on the internet, then it's okay because nobody knows you? If a person is this way on the internet, do they switch gears with people they know in "real" life and act all sweet and generous and gracious? I would think that this is characteristic of a split personality.
I would also think that one would strive to be gracious, respectful, and nice to everyone regardless if the other person is a complete stranger, or a family member or friend. Is that what is taught to children - if they don't know you and you don't know them, go ahead, rip into them, but just don't do it around family members? What a mixed message that would be teaching them.
I bet for anything Kate made Maddy pick someone that was guilty-(If she telling the truth about that part)or she made the choice her self.
Good grief, what a ridiculous scene--and all over a globe? It was probably starting to peel on its own, and then a kid picked at it...who cares? Why couldn't she just say, "Hey, guys, what happened to the globe?". Instead, she had to wait until they were all seated around the table and interogate them.
Funny, but today I came home and found a shelf-thingy that hangs on the wall by my back door (it has hooks for jackets and a divided shelf above for gloves and things)sitting on the floor against the wall. I asked what happened, and my 15-year-old immediately said he'd been balancing himself with one hand on the shelf while he put his shoes on, and it came crashihg down. Okay. It can be fixed. No lies, no drama, no accusations, no interrogations. The real question to be answered is, why was the kid so afraid to tell her? Stuff happens. It's not like the kid walked into the room and said, "I'm going to peel the equator off that globe!". Just like when Ashley said, "Pizza is not a big deal!"...a peeling globe is not a big deal. The big deal is, her kids are afraid to tell her the truth. That's what she should be worried about.
Good grief, what does the Führer do if, god forbid one of them spills their Juicy Juice?
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She blames Joel, even if one of the golden girls is sitting there with the juice all over her shirt.
Kate wants everyone to think that their life is so wonderful and happy, and yet..well, she's obviously still having meltdowns, and taking her stress out on the kids. The kids are too afraid to fess up when they do something wrong. That shows they are stressed out, too. Is it any wonder, living with that kind of stress, that they get sick so much? Hannah gets migraines, I recall Kate and Jon saying that Leah would get so upset she threw up on a daily basis for years, Cara holds things in until she explodes, Alexis and Collin were expelled for bullying, Collin slaps his hands over his eyes whenever someone points a camera toward him, Joel seems like he just wants to disappear sometimes, Mady acts out. That is just no way to grow up. Those poor, poor kids.
Is 'disgustedly" a word? Does it mean she was disgusting when she was moving the globe?
I call BULLSHIT on the need for a post it note so that the globe was not moved by one of the kids. Nope. It was probably for the nanny or the housekeeper.
re sharpie post...
My dd at last apt. wrote in a sharpie "Maman je t'aime"..mom I love you.
2 coats of paint and it still shone through.(yes..I explained writing on wall bad,but mesage good. And I saw it and smiled everytime I left the room..was right nrxt to my door.
We moved to new apt..dd aged 9... I wake up one morning and see "maman je t'aime..in marker by my door.
I asked d why again at your age?
She said "becauseI do..evem if I don't show u..besides..you liked it last time I did it.
And she was right..as a teen, when she flips out I look at 3 words written on my wall and I am happy.
Going to paint soon...I pray the message bleeds through tje paint.
going to take a pic and frame it in case..lol
The E True Hollywood story thing is new, I thought maybe it was a repeat. What could they have to say about her? The big scandal was her divorce?
I don't hold out hope they're really going to say anything substantial about her, but I'll watch to see, I guess.
Berks neighbor,
The tin foil dress media tour, ha ha.The tv host seems to know more than Kate about Coupon Cabin.Kate lies again, says she started using coupons when the twins were two.I guess everything they grifted for was free, didn't need coupons.
Kate shows how to save money by buying a $59.99 toy, saving $5.oo and got free shipping. It's at Target, so I guess food products would not be essentials. So, that's how to save money with coupons.The woman does not have a clue that people have lost jobs, homes and aren't worried about saving money on expensive toys!
I can't believe they keep her at CC. Please tell me why?
Admin 116 (prev. page) said:
years from now when she finds a pregnancy test in the garbage channeling that very special Bev. Hills 90210 episode what will she do, line them up, ALL RIGHT WHO IS PREGNANT FESS UP OR I'LL STICK A POST IT ON YOU!!!
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At least they won't be able to blame Joel for that! That poor child! He's always so sweet and sunny (when I've seen him on tv) and poor Collin always looks so lost... I want to take all those kids and hug them and spoil them with love and make the memory of the wicked witch disappear.
A personal plea to Kate:
You are mentally ill. Get help now. You also have no understanding of children whatsoever. None.
No one ever told you parenting would be this difficult? And you're talking about a freaking $10 globe? When I taught first grade (btw with 20+ kids to deal with and I loved every minute of it), I called that a Tuesday. How dare you let all the kids gang up on an innocent child, and then let the guilty one (if that's even true) off scott-free? Nice lessons you're teaching there, Krazy McKrazypants. I can't wait to see you with 8 teenagers. You'll look back on the "globe incident" as a fond memory.
I feel so sorry for those kids having to live with you. You make it clear to them each and every day what a burden they are to you and how no one wants you because of them. Get it right: no one wants you because of YOU. You are a cold, lying, scheming, angry bitch.
Get help. Now.
I don't know what's sadder about this whole, "A globe taught us all an important lesson!" thing...
That the kids had to endure the "staring into their eyes" inquisition or the fact that Kate publicly brags about it as though it's something she should be proud of.
In my heart of hearts, for the kids' sake, I sincerely hope she made the whole thing up. If she did in fact put her kids through that over a freakin' sticker on a globe...well, I'm just aghast.
Does she really think her scenario describes a stellar parenting moment?
If so, Kate is way more out of touch than I ever thought. And believe me, I thought she was pretty clueless to start with.
My heart aches for those kids more everyday. They are being imprisoned by their mother's narcissism and even though so many can see it, there's only so much anyone can do.
What part will Kate play in the E Hollywood Show? Where did you here this? THanks!
Mosse - Yes Joel has always sort of been the fall guy. Seems to me she said he was 'the sneaky one'. Someone can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
I believe we said a long time ago those kids are in big trouble once the show ends. She's going to take her anguish over the loss of her beloved program out on the them. I pity them now more than ever.
(And sorry Anita, that E! show Kate will be on is called "Biggest Fuck-Up Ever")
franky @146,
I hear you about the misssing posts, just lost one too, so annoying!I think blogger ate it, he hates me....I had a really long one, took me forever to type it out, aaaaarrrrgghhh.
But what bothers me the absolute most, is that Cara decided Joel was the guilty one, and he then became the prime suspect and probably took most of Kate's wrath.
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It's like Lord Of The Flies except the desert island is the Gosselin compound. Yes, they are that isolated.
Anita said... 68
Kate will be part of a E special "E True Hollywood Story: Biggest Scandals Ever".
Monday, March 19th, 10 p.m
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The E True Hollywood story thing is new, I thought maybe it was a repeat. What could they have to say about her? The big scandal was her divorce?
I don't hold out hope they're really going to say anything substantial about her, but I'll watch to see, I guess.
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I thought Anita was being sarcastic about the globe. Maybe it's about the bodyguard!!!
Mosse - Yes Joel has always sort of been the fall guy. Seems to me she said he was 'the sneaky one'. Someone can correct me on that if I'm wrong.
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Wasn't he the one who got the broken lollipop?
The box of wine in Kate's bedroom helped her forget. Poor thing. She has to drink away her problems with those horrible destructive, lying little brats. She has EIGHT of them, did you know that? Yes, EIGHT lying little destructive brats. Thank God they have her to show the The Way.
Konspiracytheory - Wow, how does your ds do it after having been able to eat? P was tested for EGID also, after showing some eosinophils present in his esophogus during his first endoscopy. He used to eat a whole grain, fruit, vegetable diet and loved it. He was DX'd w/ Hirschprungs Disease @ 5 yrs old, but they revised the dx as they found some ganglion cells present, but not functioning. He has had a bowel resection/ pullthru and has a daily procedure through his Malone. He also has IBS and delayed gastric emptying, not severe, but it does contribute to his pain. He is now unable to eat anything with fiber, nuts, cheese... neither raw nor cooked. He had to give up everything he loved for a few highly processed foods. Even though he feels better, it is still hard for him to accept that he can not have an orange or popcorn or... No one knows why, and he will be seen again for more tests. Is your son holding his weight on tube feeds? Our guy is 7.5 yrs and 40lbs - 44" tall. Very small, but has energy! His QOL is much better since the surgery & food restrictions. Will you continue tube feeds indefintely or try meds + food again at some point?
EM -
I understand how frustrating it is not to have answers. It's hard to hear "stress" or "behavior" (used more with young kids) when the answer is the research is just not there to explain what is happening.
Hang in there and keep looking for answers. I hope all the issues resolve soon. We were in fog of brain surgery, bowel surgery, rehab, etc... for 3 years (my husband and son) - it does get better. I'll send good thoughts that you will get to a better place as quickly as possible.
Oh, and Kate - a stupid plastic globe - again FU.
I suggested on Twitter that "Lord of the Flies" might be her parenting manual. That was just snark. I have never seen any evidence that Kate has read ANY book. Maybe not even the ones she "wrote."
Moose (Mosse, geez, sorry about that)
He was the one, and Kate got a whole one. Poor little guy didn't even bother to put up a fight, knowing it was a lost cause.
Em...ss..bit when a door closes a window opens.
Not sure I got all..but get too much worry in too many areas of your life. Think of this as a much needed break I know you will use it wisely. You're Canadian,right eh?
me too.montreal
.my opinion..take the UI..not cut in salary..but ask for future schooling
while that takes a few months..yake care ofhealth/family issues.
If I oversyep my bounds..forgove me..if u want to yalk fb me..I do npt hide..findable on fb..photo flag of here.
as Bob Marley said..don't worry about a thing..'cause every little thing is gonna be alroght
Mel and NJay thanx for the tips. This is Border Collie, btw, in case the tips don't work!
EM I am so very sorry, and it's true the state employment office can help and can do classes. I agree totally it really makes you think very ill of companies who think so little of their workers.
Krazy McKrazypants.....OMG too funny.
You know my youngest went through a sharpie phase. He sharpied the wall one time, the computer screen another and the back of the chairanother time. What are you going to do? My life wasn't over and I'm sure worse things probably happened that week than a little sharpie action. You roll with it. I sure as hell didn't grill him for an hour over dinner, and then retreat to my locked bedroom. Heck, my husband blamed me for leaving a sharpie out where our child could get it.
She is mentally unstable. I fear for those children.
Oh, EM, don't be silly. Just "erase" this day, and tomorrow everything will be AMAZING.
Seriously, though, that sucks.
It's abuse....nothing less, nothing more.
http://www.child-abuse-effects.com/types-of-emotional-abuse.html
HEY EVERYONE, KIDS BREAK THINGS AND LIE ABOUT IT- FILM AT 11!!!!
God, they broke some cheap crappy globe... BFD. Maybe if those poor kids weren't bored silly when they were home (staycation- more like comacation), they wouldn't have to entertain themselves by peeling stickers off of Kreiders precious cardboard globe.
"it was Cara who decided that Joel looked very guilty. Everyone heartily agreed!"
It sounds like Lord of the Flies over there.
And Kate, we ALL saw the pics of you beating your child on the driveway, so don't try to feed us this horse sh*t about how loving and caring you are when doling out punishment.
Gosselin Gossip said... 34 thanks for fixing the link. I haven't posted one too often so wasn't sure what to do.
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The talk about stomach, gastro problems is interesting. I keep hoping to see something in someone's issue that will help my granddaughter. She is 5 weeks old and has had screaming/crying spells since the night she was born. (they even put her in NICU to monitor the first night) Doc said it isn't colic because that would start at her age now more than right after birth. They have her on omeprazole and a colic type formula. It has gotten better but she was screaming again today. Today the pediatrician said that he still thinks it is gastro related because the symptoms don't point to anything else. (they did xray of brain and other stuff in past few weeks) They now have to get her in to a gastro specialist in a city 2 hrs away. (hopefully soon & find a reason for her misery)
Poor little baby (and parents) They are so stressed but luckily when she sleeps at night she sleeps 5-6 hrs. so they do get some rest.
EM: take the pay cut. I've been out of work going on 3 years, the employers are very picky. Unemployment only last 18 months, you can look for another job while working this one. I don't know what area you live in and how available jobs are in that area, if there are a lot of jobs available then don't take it, but if jobs are scarce, take the pay cut, at least you will have money coming in, but if the pay cut is less than unemployment, then you will have to decide, and down size everything, good luck.
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Well said. Kate has a screw loose if she thinks her behavior was stellar or that she handled it well. Letting the twins decide things, while clearly in a rage over this. Poor Joel and the boys.. second class citizens all the time. Here's a clue Kate- You don't have a clue, all you did was instill fear in your kids while acting like a nut. Kudos for more examples of your horrible parenting.
Jon Gosselin, I hope you copied Kate's latest blog post and sent it to your attorney.
I don't know if I would be more concerned with the fact that Kate had to share that whole 'tragic' tale or more concerned with the fact of what she doesn't share when the kids do something wrong. I mean if she is willing to reveal she basically ranted and hollered about trying to pry out a suspect and tell people about it, what does she do to these kids that she isn't willing to admit?
I've been through abuse in my life, a lot of the time kids repeat what they were taught what they lived. I fear some of these kids might turn out just like Kate in this regard. Reminds me the more I have to distance myself from not being like my parents. I wish these kids a lot a luck. At least for now they have each other...some siblings turn on others and abuse them in turn as well because it's easier to abuse someone who is weaker than suffer it yourself.
It's just a globe. They sell for what...$20-30? I guess it depends on what you buy but come on! And depending on how long she's had the stupid globe it could have just been it's time and kids are kids. Nobody broke anything that was dire expensive like crystal.
It's almost unbelievable she would take something that far but, wait, this is Kate here.
@JoyinVirgina, thanks. I know you need vaccines, I just like gaining information as much as I can so thanks. I'll take a look at it. Thank You. I do hope I spelled your name right.
OMG!! I can't believe all the histrionics over a Globe! If Kate reacts this way over a minor incident, how is she going to deal with something serious? In all likelihood, the damage wasn't malicious to begin with. It probably started to peel a bit on its own and little fingers fiddled with it until it became noticible. By the time the damage was done, the child was too frightened of Kate to go to her and tell her the globe was damaged. Poor Joel always gets the short end of the stick, too. Kate always puts him last, because she insists on doing things in birth order and he was the last born. Poor little guy. I notice, too, that she labels Cara "the kind one" but Cara is the one who instigated the persecution of Joel. It's understandable that the kids would gang up on each other, given Kate's parenting style and over-reaction to minor incidents, but a real mother would have stepped in and put a stop to it immediately. There's just no excuse for this sort of thing. I can't believe how outraged and angry I feel right now, for a little boy I've never met and never will meet. My heart just breaks for him.
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Could not agree more!
Why is Kate blogging about a stupid globe anyway. This is between her and her children, not the public. Mothers go through these kinds of things all the time with children. I know I didn't share with others the terrible things my children did (and yes, I had my share) and bet other mothers didn't either.
Once again its Kate's way of saying look at ME, while throwing her children under the bus by exposing their naughtiness. The issue, discussion and result (punishment)should be private.
Enough already. Kate should expose herself for her own mis-behavior, not the children's. Oh I forgot, Kate is perfect and everyone else is wrong.
Okay, I'm done being mean. Going to workout now and think happy (non-Kate) thoughts.
@EM So sorry for you. BTDT at factories that closed or downsized. (no severance) It is very scary. I wish you the best and hope things look up for you sooner than later.
I wonder if Colin did his little dance after he was interrogated by Kate!
Yes, Joel has always been known as the sneaky one who stole the others' toys (from her book). He seemed always to get blamed for things, or got the less choice things- like the dirty sock on their eczema hands, and generally annoyed Kate the most. Kate punished him, yelled at him for wanting Daddy, put him in the laundry room on the floor with the door shut, machines going, while she freaked about his vomiting on a new comforter, made fun of him, mimicked him and wouldn't let him help with the 4th of July cake- his woebegone look is imprinted on my mind as he went away, rejected. Poor little boy.
I bet those kids just Love dinnertime. It's so stressfree after a long day at school, and a nice time to share the day with mom and siblings. I'm so glad they are the exception and don't have indigestion with the accusations flying around. No, these kids had a really delightful meal. Like hell they did.
Had trouble getting "in" earlier today but I glad to be able to read all the interesting comments now.
I'll be very interested to hear what transpired at Brown University last night. I'm sure the Administrator will keep us posted.
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My son had a GI problem when he was born. We did not discover it until he was older though. I nursed him and apparantly that was the best food for him, it wasn't until I started weaning him and giving him formula that his problems began. After many weeks, they learned he could not digest or absorb nutrients and had to be put on a pre-digested formula. This formula was $800 a case, over 20 years ago. Sounds similar. Is she on formula? Go to a Children's GI Specialist. Saying a prayer for her.
Kate wrote those 2 blogs, after this pic thing. The Today I Choose and the Globe thing. Kate is tryin to do DAMAGE Control. The Today I Choose was to show her morals, to justify she does not lie. She lives by these rules/morals.
The Globe thing was to take a stab at that pap, showing that guy, that if you mess with me this is what happens to anyone who messes with me. I will relentlessly pursue the truth, till that person confesses and apologizes. What it means I will keep BULLYING you till you confess. Kate will bring up more. This must have hit a sore spot with Kate.
I don't know what she expects when she admittedly leaves six 7-year-old kids all the same age UNSUPERVISED, while she stays hidden away in her "ROOM" with all that "paperwork."
She is probably in there organizing a timeline to squeeze in all of her favorite TV shows that she gets to watch while M&C help with homework, showers, and bedtime for 6 kids.
Love how Kate tells us the name of the innocent boy, but not the guilty girl. Shame on her for letting her brother take the blame and probably get screamed at and degraded in the process. These girls are turning into mini Kates. I wonder if Kate apologied to Joel.
When my youngest was 3, she wrote her name--backwards 'E' and all-- on a wood wardrobe. She refused to take responsibility, and I remember telling her that if she is doing something wrong, she probably shouldn't sign her name. We incurred quite a bit of collateral damage from this one mischievous little girl. Twenty-five years later, I say to her what my mother said to me--"One day you will have a daughter just like you, and then you will see what its like!" I did, and I look forward to watching her deal with her own little devil-child in the future. Meanwhile, as a nursery school teacher, she is getting lots of practice!
Thanks Kari. she was going to be breast fed but my daughter in law couldn't produce enough milk so supplemented with formula right away. She never did get more amount of b. milk so gave up. (got about 5 oz. per day)
The specialist may be a children's GI. We have two huge hospitals where they live so I was shocked they don't have one and have to go to the out of town one.
I sure hope they don't have to go with the predigested stuff. WOW Although they make pretty good income they sure don't need that kind of expense. (Unless ins. pays it?)
My son went through a Zorro phase. We would find the letter "K" on evreything. When confronted he wanted to know why we always blamed him for evrything. We gave him two reasons: 1. Your name begins with "K" and 2. You're an only child!
He's 30 now but the table next to my chair still has a sloppy "K" carved in it. We didn't yell at him or make him feel bad, we just told him not to do it any more. Kids do stuff, it's part of life. He now works as a counselor/case worker for at risk kids. He turned out OK.
He's 30 now but the table next to my chair still has a sloppy "K" carved in it. We didn't yell at him or make him feel bad, we just told him not to do it any more. Kids do stuff, it's part of life. He now works as a counselor/case worker for at risk kids. He turned out OK.
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Exactly, kids do stuff. Kate forgets these kids are KIDS, some of them have only been on the planet for seven years, and they're learning how to interact with their environments on the way. It's a LEARNING experience to realize oh okay, when you pick at the equator on a cheap freebie globe from TLC for our Australia episode, some times the equator peels off. Maybe the kid was wondering what was under there. (Cardboard, Hannah). THe kid was just CURIOUS for all we know. There is no reason a kid can't go straight to their mom, tell them they were just wondering what would happen when you do that. There is no reason a mom should FREAK over such a thing. Okay honey, now you know what happens when you pick at things, they can peel off. You'll be more careful next time. Now let's go get that superglue and see if we can't put our heads together and repair it. Kate thinks this was some big learning experience about lying, but it was anything but. But could it have been a learning experience, YES.
An international incident this need not be.
I am really enjoying all the stories of childhood mischief and fibbing. All the anecdotes are better written than Kate's blog horror.
I bet those kids just Love dinnertime. It's so stressfree after a long day at school, and a nice time to share the day with mom and siblings. I'm so glad they are the exception and don't have indigestion with the accusations flying around. No, these kids had a really delightful meal. Like hell they did.
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Yet another child development expert rule that Kate broke. Never, ever talk to a kid about something they have done wrong over dinner. It associates punishment and negativity with food, family time, stress-free gathering--a huge no-no.
Not that Kate hasn't completely f-ed up any chance they will ever have to have normal relationships with food.
Why is she blogging about this? Why can't she just STOP IT? We were so glad when the filming stopped and thought the kids would finally have some privacy. It didn't happen. She's still exploiting them because she's nothing without them. She's boring, a no-talent, has absolutely nothing to give.
I hope that Jon keeps a record of all of this and lays it out before a judge. I don't know if he has a case, but I would hope that he could get an injunction against her, preventing her from mentioning their names in a public internet forum, banning all use of their photos.
Admin, is this possible? Would he have a case?
Anonymous have you asked your doctor if it's possible you had a false negative for h.pylori. Just so you know my first h.pylori test was negative and my second one three painful months later was positive. It's common to have false negatives. Unfortunately.
Ulcers are almost ALWAYS caused by h.pylori. It is extremely rare to have ulcers caused by other things unless patients are some kind of acid drinker or extremely heavy drinker something. It happens, but it's rare. Doctors have accepted more and more in recent years that h.pylori is pretty much what causes ulcers.
Anyway, just a thought. Maybe your doc might consider putting you on the cocktail despite the neg. test and see what happens...ask.
Was the Brown lecture yesterday? If so, it may be why Ms. Thang has her panties in a wad. Someone is talking about her: a) she can't stop it and b) she's not getting paid for it. And many hours of twatter silence today.
I think brussel sprouts are an acquired taste.
Of all the wonderful veggies that could be served with spaghetti (what a great time for salad), why choose brussel sprouts. I think she enjoys torturing those kids.
Westcoast, yes Jon could take this to the judge. A mother in a couple counties over in PA was successful in getting a judge to stop the father from blogging about her and the kids. It's a landmark case up on appeal as we speak. WIsh that judge was on this case.
What about being on her fifth iPhone or maybe sixth? How does that even happen if you're taking care of your property? I'm sorry, it doesn't.
What really gets me is how Kate says she's mellowed out over the years. That I know she said it somewhere that she isn't as uptight as she used to be. Said she used to be more uptight when she just had the twins.
Huh-huh. I'll believe that when it's for real. I think she's become more off the wall unhinged whatever you want to call it.
Why would she just allow her older kid to assume the younger one is guilty..why would she go with that? I mean there are lots of times my mom said I looked like I, "looked like the cat who swallowed the canary, now fess up what did you do?" When in reality I hadn't done anything.
Kids sometimes have goofy faces without realizing it. It's possible Joel was just tense and under pressure just because, well, it's Kate. Make any kid clam up and look guilty it's pretty easy to do.
I mean to a 7 year old kid, you're this big adult hulking over them while you think, "Oh lord, what did I do?" It's pretty intimidating for a kid to have your parent stand over you and glare down in anger.
BY the way other than Milo, are her tweeties responding to this blog telling her what a wonderful mother she is, or are they pretty much keeping quiet?
I'm gonna bet they're being quiet, but I don't look at twitter much.
When our daughter was learning to write her name, about 4 or 5 years old, she was practicing at the wood butcher block style dining room table in the breakfast nook. I told her to always keep her practice book under the paper so that her pencil wouldn't push into the wood. I had to remind her a few times.
One morning apparently she went over and started doing it with just a thin sheet of paper and her pencil and her name is now forever pressed into the wood in her childish print (complete with a backwards letter or two)
Of course I was a little upset at the time, but she was a kid. She wasn't being malicious and I knew that.
And now that she's very close to leaving home, I wouldn't give up that table for anything. Sometimes I see her name on it and smile. I'll never get rid of that table.
Kate should do a commercial for Massengill because she is such a big ass douche.
Hey Kreider, have I told you lately to f--- off?
Admin-The tweeties ARE responding, telling her how wonderful she is and how she handled it so well. Some even admitted to tearing up when they read it, because it was such a touching story.
Anonymous, I was 25 and completely happy with my life and not stressed at all and not do anything they used to think caused ulcers when my ulcer struck me.
It can indeed strike the very young. There has been a real change in how the medical establishment has looked at this problem. They will consider ir right out of the gate now when it wasn't considered before. What was once a problem for a 40 year old stressed out executive they instructed to just relax and they will heal, they now realize is a bacteria than can strike kids, the young, and anyone.
Poor Joel. Pulled from the womb last and, always adored his Daddy, and is a boy. Being told not to breath, made fun of for his nearly non existent lisp and being punished for crying for his Daddy. When Hannah did the same thing she was rewarded and brought down to the interview couch. Imagine if one of the girls had learned to ride a two wheeler first, she would have thrown a party. But because it was Joel it's barely even a footnote.
Kate treats those boys worse than the dogs. It's not surprising that Joel would call himself "Daddy's girl" or that the worst insult he and his brothers could think up as three year olds is calling someone a boy.
Kate is a Twit I can't believe her sheeple telling her how great she is. What suck ups they are.
You know what, I don't even care how they feel about this parenting thing, it doesn't matter if Kate handled this straight out of a child development book.....but when you're talking about a child lying, you are an abomination to write a blog about it especially knowing how many people read it and especially cowing we all "know" these kids. Disgusting. An abomination (so love that term).
I explained to them that in life if you commit a crime OR witness one and don’t report it, you are always guilty and the choice to not report the crime is also a crime!!!!"
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But this wasn't a CRIME for gosh sakes, Crazy! It was a f-ing GLOBE. Plus, how does she know anyone even witnessed it?? A child can't pick at a globe alone? Anyway this is hardly like witnessing a murder! Also what about the value of sticking together and sticking by your sibling against your batshit crazy mother.
I mean sheesh talk about hyperbole!
This blog was one of her worst yet.
" I explained to them that in life if you commit a crime OR witness one and don’t report it, you are always guilty and the choice to not report the crime is also a crime!!!!"
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I'll remember that next time we see Kate in the fire lane. We should all call the police. Kate told us to, she said we are guilty if we don't.
Tess 87 - wow, you've got your hands full too. :( My guy has never been underweight (over 10 lbs at birth, and now average weight) which is part of what confused the docs, I think. We did try meds (swallowed flovent) right before going to the tube, but he reacted to the flovent - go figure. We are hoping to build a safe diet for him, but so far every food we've trialed (one at a time) has been a 'fail', resulting in a week of illness and missed school each time. He's a trooper, but it's really taking a toll on him (he tends to bottle up his feelings), as well as his two wonderfully patient sibs.
Ingrid 96 - perhaps they could try an elemental formula (Elecare or Neocate, for ex) - the proteins are completely broken down to the amino acid level, so ~ 96% of patients tolerate them (my son reacted to the flavored ones though, hence the feeding tube). Insanely expensive, but if they're lucky their insurance will cover it (fortunately ours does). Best of luck!
Oh, and Kate...? Eight children, and you're upset by one needing glasses? I won't type what I really want to say...
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Not to get overly personal here, but in case the nurses on this board dont mention, I thought *I* would. The kind of stool that admin mentions can often be caused by blood in the intestines or stomach.
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Yes, absolutely Dwindle. And I did. Salmonella can be very dangerous, your doctor will tell you the lowdown about preventing hospitalization and even death.
Marie to answer your question from way back, that is the ONLY time I ever got sick abroad and I've been several times. I was in a third world country that was beyond destitute. I have never, ever gotten sick in first world countries although I know some do. Even so, it was worth it so please do not let that scare you off.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 134
" I explained to them that in life if you commit a crime OR witness one and don’t report it, you are always guilty and the choice to not report the crime is also a crime!!!!"
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I'll remember that next time we see Kate in the fire lane. We should all call the police. Kate told us to, she said we are guilty if we don't.
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Oh snap!
So, basically, what Kate is saying is that she expects her children to be tattletales.
Oh, and Em - so sorry. I've been there - it worked out in the end, but the early days are scary for sure. Best of luck to you.
anger issues kate said... 97
EM: take the pay cut. I've been out of work going on 3 years, the employers are very picky.
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Go back and read this over and over, EM...great advice.
I'm sure it must be hard to explain to a kid the difference between disclosing true wrongdoings and not being a tattle tell, but Kate's ABSOLUTE rule you must always, always, forever and ever tell on people, will not serve her kids well. Especially if you're encouraging them to tell on someone for peeling a GLOBE for gosh sakes. Certainly that doesn't rise to the level of all disclose a crime to authorities. These sound like lovely kids, sigh. Life is just not as simple as, always tell on others.
Oh forgot one. Next time I see Kate whiz by at 88 mph I will be sure to get right on my phone to the cops about that one to.
Kate? The only pig here is you.
The only crime that happened in this whole story, is the crime of publishing to the world what should have been a private matter.
When people ask Kate how she keeps are arms in such great shape, she says it's all from running, no other kind of exercise. Her real secret is that she keeps her arms in shape but patting her self on the back over and over again.
She hasn't tweeted since she tweeted about this story(twice no less). She's probably just reading her timeline and basking in the adoration her fans are showing her.
KmartSmart said... 55
And I doubt very seriously that Kate handled this calmly. Dresser knob anyone? I think she yelled and screamed and scared the crap out of those kids just like she did with the dresser knob at the old house.
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That's the exact impression I got when reading her globe post; I could imagine her rage then but only worse now...as she seems really down about things lately. I hope there was a little Collin dance once she left the room.
I found it odd that while Kate was in this rage over the globe, she still had the sense to give her kids dessert. My mom was the complete opposite, if we were supposed to get a special treat but got in trouble somehow. It was part of our punishment, not rewarding poor choices. Guess you're only forbidden dessert when you don't finish dinner on your birthday.
I totally agree that this girl didn't get punished because she's the favorite; what lesson is she really learning here - that favorites don't get punished if they do something wrong?
On a serious note, it's scary that Kate might be taking her emotional stress out on the kids. Whatever funk she's in, it's NOT okay to take it out on the kids.
Does Kate realize this may all backfire on her when in the future the kids report the crimes she has committed against them and others?
Maybe someday, they will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Be careful what you wish for, Kate.
Does Kate realize this may all backfire on her when in the future the kids report the crimes she has committed against them and others?
Maybe someday, they will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Be careful what you wish for, Kate.
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Yeah on second thought, kids, Report crimes. All crimes. Especially financial crimes against minors!!!
I, too, am enjoying the little stories about everyone's kids and their little "oops" moments. My own are away at college now, and you look back and would give anything to see those initials carved in a table, or the marker on the wall! Such little issues over the course of time.
My boys had a habit of using masking and duct tape all over the house for everything - forming basketball courts on the carpet, sticking to the painted walls as signs, etc. - yes, it was annoying.
We recently cleaned out our basement stuff now that they are away more than home, and I discovered a large masking tape square inside of a nice antique cupboard in cute childish handwriting that said..."Scary Pig"..??? When I next talked to my oldest son, he said he remembered he'd done that in 2nd grade right after watching Charlotte's Web in school, some 2nd grade humor about Wilbur the pig, lol. I peeled it off the cupboard, taking off some of the finish, and it now resides inside my spice cupboard in the kitchen - a daily reminder of the young days of our kids and their masking tape adventures. :)
By tomorrow this story will have morphed into a tale of how a small child and a plastic globe saved the world as we know it. It was so emotional says Kate. How about sad, trite and humiliating for the children? Pass the popsicles.
Ingrid,
Insurance finally paid for the pre-digested Formula. It was called Formula 4242A. We were lucky enough to go to a hospital in the Boston area, and we had one of the top specialists in the world. He actually taught other GI doctors in schools all over the world. My son's weight was normal at birth but at 6 months he stopped gaining. By 9 months he was losing weight and our pediatrition wasn't worried. We were, so we went to another doctor who immediately put him in the hospital. By now he had pneunomia and chronic diarrha. It took several doctors and hospitals to figure out what was wrong. Finally we found this doctor and he knew right away. We were in the hospital for a long time, but not as long as many other children. Some were there for a year or more. He was fed with an NG tube and we were lucky because the first formula the doctor tried agreed with my son. Sometimes they have to try many formulas to find the right one. Every child there was on a different formula. Long story short, he is almost 21 and is perfectly normal, extremely skinny but a great athlete and smart as a whip. If you would like the name of doctor and hospital, let me know. I don't know if he is still there though.
I get the feeling that Kate feels this constant need more than ever to drag small things on and on, to make them appear more entertaining in some way then they actually are.
Without TLC there to edit or create drama around her, she's sort of reduced to making sure any blog post she puts out there is action-packed as, could it be, a possible way to help stimulate herself from her mundane mediocre existence these days?
She perhaps needs to show people that, "See, see? Even with TLC our lives are still half as more interesting than anyone else s!" When I think in reality...it isn't.
When you spend your whole life being told to ham-it-up, playing cards of action and drama so to speak, being told to make a scene that when the lights go off and you're supposed to go home you are left with this, "What? You mean it's over? Isn't there more? But I'm ME! You love ME, remember?" Like the child actor who gets dumped after so many years because they aren't cute anymore or whatever.
@ Admin, nah, not going to scare me off. I've given this trip 100% commitment, I just like learning about things beforehand getting a seasoned travelers advice, ideas, hints. All to make the experience worth something more than going and saying, "oh loo, an important building" Snap picture. More to life than that.
I also think Admin you should put up a tracker, numbers that flip by, an estimation on when Kate might grow up. Yeah right, as if that'll ever happen!
http://marie-travelplanninglife.blogspot.com/
You know, if anybody here as travel ideas, tips, stories or a good laugh at a new traveler.
Effie's posts on Gather as about as boring as if they were written by a 7th grader after the teacher edited them for correct grammar and punctuation. Boring
My little munchkin drew smiley faces all over every surface that was flat. Walls, dressers, etc. I had to erase them all before her dad got home but I missed one.
As I glance at an old piece of furniture 10 years later, I see the letter of her first name in red Sharpie.
I guess I need a teacher to check my own posts - haha!
Wow...sorry for all the letters left off in my last post. Yuck. I need a new keyboard but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Not all the keys press some of the time.
Does Kate ever stop to think that just because she doesn't allow her kids access to the internet their friends at school more than likely see all of this crap she says about the kids. Can you imagine the hell these poor kids must have to deal with on a daily basis. And to think that all the pain is coming not from some stranger but their very own mother. God, she is one sick twisted bitch.
The Diane Mizota interview on Yahoo has well over 300 comments now, 99.9% of which are negative. I wonder what it will take for Kate to get a clue.
Marie just read your blog how fun for you. You are not going to get food poisoning in those countries any more than you would get it here. This trip looks GREAT. And I love your "off the beaten path" episode. I'm not happy on vacation unless at least some of it is that.
Homestays in those countries are one way to really get immersed in it. In Italy they are called argiturismos. Not sure what they are called elsewhere but Google around, highly recommend.
I don't know how autocorrect changed attitude to episode.
LOL I meant off the beaten path ATTITUDE.
Kari said... 149 I don't think they will need to go as far as Boston. (Sure hope not) They have access to a very good hospital, I was just surprised the local ones don't have the GI spec. (they are always adding on so it can't be lack of space)
My g.daughter isn't as ill as your son thankfully. (what a time you had. wow I am happy for you that he ended up ok) She didn't gain in first couple weeks but is now and no problems with anything else that we can see.
Thanks.
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KATE MOVES ON FROM LYING PHOTOG - TO LYING CHILD
By the way speaking of I go off to my room to do more paperwork after dinner?
Kate? F.....U. You have ALL DAY LONG to do paperwork. What do you do? Do what Kate wants to do. You run, you twitter all morning, you get into some stupid war with a stupid pap. You waste away the day. There is no reason you can't finish all your stupid paperwork so you can be with your children in the evenings. You have EIGHT kids to give attention to. Budget your time, you are a stay at home mom you even said so! The least you can do for your children if you do nothing else is devote your evenings to THEM. And if you must, why not bring your paperwork out to the living room where they are playing, or work on it in between helping with homework, etc etc?
I'm not sure if it's us Marie. My posts keep doing weird things too.
There is no paperwork, or if there is, how much could there be really and truly? By now it's just effing code for "I'm sooo busy" or " Don't bother me kids". Paperwork? She doesn't read, or have homework from a college course, no one is sending her scripts (ok, that just made me laugh) to read, no paychecks to cash and record. I bet the last time she had real paperwork was when she went to MD to do some final whatevers with TLC. PaperworkGate is what we have here. Another chapter of STFU already.
If "paperwork" is the full time job Kate makes it out to be it's a wonder anyone has any time at all to work a 9 to 5 job? I mean how do I do it?
Oh right, all our bills are on autopay and we've never had one single problem. I don't get paperwork to save the environment. It's all available online. I only write three or four checks a month and it takes three or four minutes. The three banking web sites that hold our money are checked once a day in the morning or at night to be sure all is well, and we're done.
I guess going through the TV Guide to find out what's happening on The Voice tonight might be a lot of paperwork to flip through? Kate go away.
My kids are both adults now. Son is 21 and just moved to his own apt 2 weeks ago and tomorrow my ex and I are taking our daughter for a college visit. I can't believe how fast the time flew by-makes me sad in some ways but also happy and proud because they both are great kids who never gave me any serious problems. Had a few rough patches since getting divorced eight years ago, but nothing as earth shattering as poor Kate having her globe defaced!! Son is going to pharmacy school and daughter wants to major in Music Therapy.
Okay, I guess I shared that because I'm still trying to come to terms with the fact that I will be alone by August. My friends tell me to just think of it as my time now, time to do the things that I want to do and maybe meet a man in the process.
The real reason for my post is that I wanted to say as far as lying kids go, they all do it at some point. They're testing boundaries and just learning. I don't think any child maliciously lies. It all depends on how you approach them. If you're angry and snarling at them, you scare the crap out of them and they lie because they're probably thinking "Oh my gosh, if she's that angry now, what will she do if I admit I'm the one that broke the toy?"
With my kids, I always told them that lying was worse than the actual "crime". For example, if I noticed writing on the wall and asked my son if he did it (knowing that he did), and he denied it, I would say "I believe you, but you know that if you did do it, of course I am disappointed and there will be punishment. But if you choose to deny it and I find out later that you did do it, I will be more upset with you for lying about it" And I just left it at that, let him stew on it for awhile and he almost always came to me later to confess. And I think the most severe punishment I ever gave was no video games for a week or no playing with friends for a day or two. Hope I'm making sense. What I mean is I was trying to make them see that they should never be afraid to come to me about anything. It's little things like a broken toy or snitching a cookie when they're young, but as they get older it's things like drinking, drugs, sex, etc that I didn't want them to feel like they couldn't confide in me about or discuss if they were feeling peer pressure.
Hmmm, well I thought of it this way.
Paperwork could just mean she's counting bill by bill what money she has left. I mean money goes fast the more you spend it.
Paperwork could also mean she's compiling a list of how expensive each child is or the twins or the 6 grouped together how costly they are for her. "Okay...X child cost me $35 for school fee, Child Y cost me $2.45 for a candy and Child Z costs me a total of $6.7 million for breaking my globe!
Read? Ha! Yeah right. The TV Guide maybe once in a while, the ingredients on the back of the juice box or soup cans to make sure they're organic.
Or maybe she just reads old transcripts of all the major interviews she did to relive that moment. Who knows.
Could also be code for "Not now, I'm too into my box of wine." Most working or people in college tend to drink maybe a beer or wine at the end of the day. Ever notice she says she has "paperwork" at the end of the day most of the time? Code word, me thinks could be.
Ugh! She's horrible!!!
Someone brought up the Iphones...well, she LIED about the Iphones. She said that she was on her fifth one cuz they kept breaking. (on an old TLC blog I think.) In a recent interview, she said that Cara and Mady each had one of her old Iphones.
You wouldn't give them a broken Iphone, but you would lie about your Iphones to make it look like you are not just upgrading because you want the newest phone.
Oh, and my son draws on the walls (they all do!). We have a dry erase board at his level that he can write and draw on whenever he wants. He frequently draws on the wall around it. Do I fuss and yell and whine? No. It's just an accident and, you know what, Mr. Clean's Eraser takes it right off. No big deal.
She is vile.
NCAA basketball tournament has started! This is the real realest reality show! Love it! Virginia Commonwealth University won their first round game! Go VCU Rams!!
Much more fun than any dull reality shows.
gladimnotagosselin said... 162
I'm not sure if it's us Marie. My posts keep doing weird things too.
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Oh good... it's blogger doing weird stuff. That makes sense. I thought I needed glasses today when I read that Kate wrote "how very important it is to always tell the truth”.
Oh good... it's blogger doing weird stuff. That makes sense. I thought I needed glasses today when I read that Kate wrote "how very important it is to always tell the truth”.
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lol, Auntie! If I were a gum-chewer, I would have swallowed it when I read that. I wonder what she says to the twins, when they look at old photos/videos of her not-a-breast, and then at recent photos of her bustin' out all over, all over the meadow and the hill (watching Carousel right now) and they ask her how why she was such a late bloomer...
New post. Those poor Luck horses :(
"I heard them become their own jury as they turned to each other and questioned one another."
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That should read "...as they turned on each other..." Poor little Joel, unjustly accused and left to be tried by his siblings...by his own mother. She just doesn't grasp the significance of the damage that she's doing to her children. This is not good parenting. The less aggressive children in that family are not going to thrive as this is not a nurturing environment. The bullies-in-training will rule the roost. Kate's training them well.
I am also loving the family stories. My guy made a single foray into wall art. Well, actually, door art. He drew a smiley face on our closet door. He came and told me about it - no fear. We got him stacks of paper, found the rogue sharpie, and put it out of reach. That smile greets me daily :)
We also have tape on the floor for starting lines for races, balloons on the ceiling from impromptu parties for daddy, dolls, the cat... He has tape, string, slinkies, and other assorted items everywhere in his quest to make "elaborate traps". His paper drawings cover the walls. Frankly, and like the joy of other posters who have shared snippets here, I love the signs of our family being everywhere - this is life - living now. All she does is complain about them in one way or another. Their messes, how burdened she is, their behavior (jacket snacking about did me in before this latest crapfest). Endless invasion of their privacy to feed her bottemless pit of need.
In 10 short years the little guy will be an adult. It goes by so fast. He doesn't intentionally damage things. He is busy living and learning and getting help from his parents to do that in ways that are safe and respectful of others.
To freak over a plastic globe and post about her kids the way she did is beyond insane.
I agree with those who have said with 8 kids who would be holed up in their bedroom? Who would want to be? Especially since they are gone most of the week anyway.
We have one, count'em one, and we spend the majority of the day engaged - the three of us. We homeschool, go as many places as health/finances allow, fill the house with his friends when they get home from school and on the weekends. There is little time to chat on the phone right now much less twit away his childhood.
Last thing - This morning he held my hand as we went door to door so he could introduce himself and pass out a flyer he made. He wants to make a little pocket money by offering to bring the neighbors trash to the bin for a quarter a bag. I've offered him jobs for pay, but he wants to earn it "from someone not related to him". He got a few customers. You all get it - you know how your heart swells with joy for them? That is something you do not hear from Kate. It is all about her and forever will be.
Good grief, I'm sorry for the long post. There is such a stark contrast in the lives of the "mediocre" parents here and that vapid "supermo..." - gestational carrier.
I wonder what she says to the twins, when they look at old photos/videos of her not-a-breast, and then at recent photos of her bustin' out all over, all over the meadow and the hill (watching Carousel right now) and they ask her how why she was such a late bloomer...
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Moose haha "My boobies finally filled in when I turned 33-ish."
I always wonder what they think about her lies. She is screwing with their heads so badly. It's mind numbing to read her crap.
Moose - LOL
AuntieAnn
You said it. Screwing with their heads is right. The therapy jar is going to need a heck of a deposit "X8".
Dmasy said... 51
Son is a grown man now with a successful life. A few years ago, I was helping him move. I found that note in his home desk drawer. He had laminated it and saved it.
Dmasy, always read here, rarely post. Your post made burst into tears. You wonderful, caring and CAREFUL Mother. Your son learned to trust and love you..that's why he saved it. You showed him then and there that you loved him and he knew his Mom had a tender heart, and he was grateful. I am more than sure that he will treat his own children with the same measure of respect and love.
What the hell is that Monster teaching her children. I just read her blog, CRIME. Something peeled off a Globe? Something is very very wrong with this woman.
The Gosselin boys will pack together and get their own apartment ASAP. And so will most of the girls.
Oh the lumps in their throats as they come home from a long day and try to eat.. I knew that stress well 50 years ago. Will never forget the fear of coming home after school. Chewed my nails to the quick and could not concentrate in school. I had a Mother like Kreider.
If she will talk about this episode, then turn it into a "learning" experience, what the hell does this woman do to them at other times. Someone needs to step into this blatant child abuse.
My Mother is 87 now. All of us five children still recall what she did to us. We love her. BUT. None of us
has ever forgotten. Her rampages are still fresh in our minds.
Tess said... 175
The therapy jar is going to need a heck of a deposit "X8".
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It'll be empty by the time they get to use it.
Mommy needs new shoes.
Thanks guys for support. It's very appreciated and I'm sorry some of you are also dealing with or have dealt with your fair share. I decided to take the huge paycut but I'm not sure how long it will last before the final cut. I just really need my health insurance right now. Broke and healthy is much better than broke and being ill with no way to treat it. :0) See I'm POSITIVE! DETERMINED! HARD WORKING! SACRIFICING FOR MY KIDS! Where is my award and talk show now please?
The more I read about all your comments the more this story get to me. Like, ya, isn't it a family globe? Why did the golden child escape punishment when it was too late AND she got to tell Joel sorry in SECRET while the others still thought it was him?
Also great point about it could have been months ago the damn thing peeled or was "damaged." Is this bitch really stomping around looking for things to get pissed about. Was she dreamily staring at the globe planning where she will grift her next trip..when horror, the peeled equator!!!!!!! She had to march thru the house in anger. Read her description of how she brought the globe to the kitchen. I would repost but I cant look at it again. Makes me sick. The visual is of a super pissed person. Over a gloooobe, you know, the one from the TEEEVEEEE show that you all saw in our house, the one you can visulize now like an episode. Get the fuck over it. Ask what happened. Sure it's annoying to be lied too, but ask yourself. Why are they afraid to confess? What did they think could possibly happen to them for peeling the equator that was superglued GOOD AS NEW?
This woman is riding the crazy train. I think she lies all the time, yet I kinda believe this story. She WOULD huff and puff over HER property being defaced. She can paint pudding at expensive houses but cannot tolerate anything but perfection in HER home. She gross, was most likey drinking in her room (wine in her mini fridge made her forget) and was totally ignoring the kids while they did after dinner chores and baths.
Also, what was she working on at night that she doesn't have time to work on in her 8 hours alone during the day?
This woman is so bitter to be stuck home with 8 kids she's going insane. I think she takes these trips all the time to keep herself from causing serious abuse. She's really off. Delusional and mean is not a good combo.
Keep sucking it kate. You're so over. Get used to it. These twitter episodes will soon too be unwatched.
BTW, super sweet story about the note that was laminated. It's true, you really never know what kids keep as memories.
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FreakIng hysterical. :0) I will just be DETERMINED tomorrow to make it better. hahaha. kate is such a loon.
It's so easy to find a new job when you just sold your house TODAY and have to move April 20th. Moving cross county needs put on hold for legal issues so we need temporary housing until that is resolved. We were supposed to move for work, put house on market and it sold an hour before I got the news about my job. Go figure. Even worse, if son gets screwed on case he will be stuck in state waiting for transfer paperwork for probation. ARRGH!
Strangely this hasn't been my worst week by far - had way worse weeks many times so don't worry guys I'm really ok. Has kate ever had a rough week? Oh yes, she has. Her globe came unpeeled the same week she had a twit war. OH NO
Yes, I know I'm talking alot about myself today but it's almost comical the comparisons to a real humans life and Bubble Girl's. I cannot wait until she has 8 teens. That's when karma comes back to bite you........TIMES 8!!!!!
I've been reading some posts from people who are 'hurt' or 'offended' by replies here.
This is the world wide web, people. Not exactly a place that coddles everyone.
My 1st post was replied to in a, say, 'unpleasant' manner but was very quickly followed up with an apology by none other than the owner of this blog!
If I had quit posting because of that, I would not have learned some important info pertaining to myself.
Anyway, thank you Admin. for your gracious response. Kudos to you!
"...I told her that I would not tell anyone else that it was her, but that she needed to quietly go to Joel and apologize for letting him “take the heat” for her because everyone assumed he had been the culprit..."
How's that supposed to work? Wouldn't Joel just tell the other kids who the miscreant was? There's nothing in those instructions telling Joel to keep all this in confidence. Kate not get the memo that they live in a house, not an office?
Given how much of a narcissist Kate is, it's amazing she cares about any equator other than one between her torso and her legs.
In the throes of major jet lag after a wonderful week in Munich, and I sat here with my mouth open reading that blog entry. Oh my GOSH. "WE" all learned? Sounds like the perp learned she will never be punished nor even named or outed to the others, and Joel learned he will never do anything right. The others learned to point fingers and be judge and jury even with no evidence. Kate learned that if she makes enough of a fuss, she will find the person who damaged HER globe. I am sorry I read it. I honestly read it thinking that she would do some post about how they visited all these places on the globe (grifting for another free trip), even though they've been to Australia/New Zealand and the rest is North America. She said they talk about these trips endlessly, so I was literally agog reading that blog entry.
I always wonder what they think about her lies. She is screwing with their heads so badly. It's mind numbing to read her crap.
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I think, Auntie, in that house they live by "Do as I say, not as I do." That pretty much sums it up.
readerlady @101,
I am with you on this one- what will Kate do when something important happens? She is teaching these kids to be afraid to tell the truth,picking on the weakest one amd how not to instill truth -telling and honesty in any situation, big or small,because you will get in big trouble with Mom and everyone else.
I hate that she has custody so much, I could just... spit! I would like to fedex the kids a new globe, but Kate would think of something else to bitch about the kids for.How about if one of the kids engraved their names or initials in her leather couch? I really hope Jon shows someone these posts of her mothering techniques.
The pitiful part is that the lame sheeple will think she is supermom.She has no business looking after those kids; she is becoming mentally un-hinged and headed for a breakdown.I am really afraid for those kids alone with her.Kate wrote that post thinking she is parenting properly! She believes this garbage she's spewing.OMG.
Someone please step in and help those kids out of her house, before it's too late.
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