Fred Savage, now 35, a father of two boys and a successful director and producer (most recently, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphlia and Best Friends Forever) this week dismissed suggestions that child stardom leads to terrible things. But a look back at his childhood yields some obvious clues as to why little Kevin Arnold turned out so well--and why other child stars under different circumstances crumble.
Dad kept his day job. Savage's family, originally from the Chicago area, kept a home there for years after all three of the Savage kids hit it big in Hollywood. Dad Lew kept working as a real estate agent. (We can't help but notice, parents keeping their day jobs seems to be one of the most common factors when it comes to child stars growing into successful adults. It's good to see Jon back at a day job. When will Kate go back?)
Even as a child, Savage seemed to feel a sense of relief no one was counting on him to support his family. Said Savage when he was just thirteen-years-old: "A job is what you do to make money to support yourself. But I'm not acting to support my family or myself. I just do it for fun. When it starts to become hard work and I'm not enjoying myself, then it's time to stop."
'Fame shouldn't be an end result': Staying away from the celebrity lifestyle and doing it because you love the work, not the fame. Said Savage: "Fame was never a big part of my experience. I didn't hang out with celebrities or live a celebrity lifestyle. Fame can come and fame can go. When it was never a part of your life to begin with, you don't miss it. For me, it was always about the work ... I just liked being on set and working. Fame shouldn't be an end result. That's a dangerous game to play and never part of the equation for me and still isn't." During his childhood, the family made their home in the quiet, distinctly un-Hollywood neighborhood of Tarzana, near the Wonder Years set.
Just a normal kid. Savage had chores and made an allowance of nine dollars a week. He said his parents never pressured him to act: "They're both very generous, kind, loving people who are fair and very supportive. They never push me. They say, 'You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. We'll love you even if you don't do it. If you want to stop, you can."
Family First. Said Savage's dad Lew, who took a flight to Los Angeles every weekend from Chicago, "If Fred worked in Timbuktu we'd be there. I'd probably come by elephant on weekends. A parent just does that by instinct for his kids. Things have changed for us, of course. But the family is the most important thing."
Good job, Mr. and Mrs. Savage.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 904 Newer› Newest»I think that was a slice of Pizza. Our Target has a Pizza Hut right by the exit. It smells divine. You hardly pass by without getting a slice.
Proof Please (192), gypsi has been tweeting about going since she signed up, back in mid-January. She has made friends on Twitter with others who've said they are going. If you need more proof than her own tweets (and I have no reason to think she's lying, she certainly does not come across as a game-player like CJ), then I don't think you're going to find it.
All gypsi has said so far about the cruise is that she might cancel the Kate portion, not that she would pull her entire party off the cruise. I think she's being very fair-minded, considering how publicly and nastily she was dissed by Kate. At a minimum, I would not be at all surprised if she contacted Cindy tomorrow to ask what she thinks. If she cancels now, she would be out $200 per person, or at least $1,400. If gypsi decides she does want to cancel, I don't think it would be fair that she be penalized--after all, this situation is 100% Kate's doing, not hers.
PaULa said... 185
I have to wonder when Kate took that picture or did she upload a stock picture? Donkeys have no relevance to Easter Sunday. Paln Sunday, yes. Easter - none.
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Paula, sorry but you are wrong. Jesus entered Jerusalem riding on a donkey, which was the begining of His path to the Crucifixion and reserection.
And if PB is there (as I am sure he is since he does the holidays) that is a major slam to Gi. who is supposedly a dear friend.
Isn't it strange that Kate claims all the people in town love her and the kids, but every single person from around there talk only about how rudely she treats others. From what I've read, none of the locals like her and just wish she would move. But she just has this attitude she can go on twitter, sort of like she did on the talk shows and say any lie she wanted, and get away with the same old BS. Someone needs to tell her the times have changed.
I would bet it's not Kate's printing.It looks like a kid around M and C's age wrote it. I think the twins are old enough to put 'Kate' for a joke. I really didn't get the feeling other adults were coming, but who knows? That's an Easter Egg on the card too, not well-drawn. I think it's just a family joke...although I think it was Mady who said she wants K to remarry and Cara said no (or was it date) on the most recent FAQ episode.
Our Target had a Pizza Hut, but now it's a Starbucks. The Pizza Hut sold hotdogs, pretzels and burgers as well as pizza, and those slurpee drinks.
Hungry! Almost dinner time here.
Aggiemom wrote:First, Kate blocked one of her fans going on the cruise, seems that this fan tweeted Jon she wanted to buy one of his signed books. Guess Kate either reads Jon's tweets, or one of her fans does. She told the lady off, then blocked her again. Real smart, Kate, one of the few hands left that wants to still feed you.
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I am confused. When did she tell the lady off? What did she say to her? and how could she block her for a second time? Thanks for helping me understand this.
Rhymes with Witch said... 181
What does a donkey have to do with Easter? 177
Ms. B1blical Scholar (NOT) is confusing Jesus entrance into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday with His Resurrection.
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Oop's, your right. My bad. I need to go back and refresh my memory.
JoyinVirginia said... 133 ---
I agree- the important story is included in your post. Unselfish human beings who help others and have some humility, even when not needed. These are the actions of people who really deserve praise. Real life stories that really matter. Unlike, well, you know.
Kate is Krazy said... 7
I would bet it's not Kate's printing.It looks like a kid around M and C's age wrote it.
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That IS the age at which Kate's mental growth was stunted.
Maggie #9...go and read Kate's tweets to gypsy...and then read gypsy's tweets to others..Kate's pissed that gypsy tweeted Jon she wanted to read and buy a signed copy of Jon's supposed new book.
Kate got wind of it (either by reading all the tweets herself, or one of her minions told her), and she blocked gypsy. Gypsy then tweeted Kate, Kate said something to the effect that you tweeted someone else,blah blah so I blocked you. Before gypsy could respond, Kate blocked her again.
Kate's not really that smart.Why block and cause a problem with someone who has put money into your pocket for the cruise??
Gypy's upset, and I wouldn;t be surprised if she cancels her part of the cruise.
As far as the handwriting on the husband card, another site thought it was Kate's handwriting, and those posters over there are pretty sharp.
njay said... 4
PaULa said... 185
I have to wonder when Kate took that picture or did she upload a stock picture? Donkeys have no relevance to Easter Sunday.
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Maybe she took a picture of herself : )
I can't believe that Khate hasn't gotten that if she were actually photographed out with men the media might actually give her some attention. If you're going to make your quest for a man the main point of every interview you do, yet are never seen dating? The press and public just hear a lying broken record.
Milo
@ gypsi001..girl..Uknow critics R feeding on this mistake 2make Kate look bad, Kate has so m
much going on...easy 2make errors...she's human!
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@ gypsi001 Kate ended her tweet 2U w/ a sweet XO! Give her time 2fix this..don't let critics sour ur sweet/gentle/4giving personality!
GOOD GAWD!!!!!
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Kate is truly nuts and coming unglued. Gypsy has every right to be disgusted with Kate. Krap has about 20 people signed up for her cruise, and just crapped on one family of five? For no reason. That would bring her to 15 passengers booked for the Kate Cruise. Way to go Kate! How much more insane can Kate get?
Pity Party said... 2
I think that was a slice of Pizza. Our Target has a Pizza Hut right by the exit. It smells divine. You hardly pass by without getting a slice.
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Maybe Steve was waiting in the van to take the pap photos and pizza hut was his treat.
Sandi said... 16
Milo
@ gypsi001..girl..Uknow critics R feeding on this mistake 2make Kate look bad, Kate has so m
much going on...easy 2make errors...she's human!
Milo
@ gypsi001 Kate ended her tweet 2U w/ a sweet XO! Give her time 2fix this..don't let critics sour ur sweet/gentle/4giving personality!
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Sweet???
Gentle???
Giving Personality???
Now I know these sheep are krazy4kate those three word will never ever describe Kate Gosselin.
TLC stinks said... 200
I agree that an adult wrote that note, not so sure it was Kate. Yeah, I noticed the wine too.
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It looks exactly like her handwriting. Yes, her handwriting is generally sloppy and this is neater, but it is still the same. She wrote it herself as a setup. Damn moron!
TLC stinks said... 200
I agree that an adult wrote that note, not so sure it was Kate. Yeah, I noticed the wine too.
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It looks exactly like her handwriting. Yes, her handwriting is generally sloppy and this is neater, but it is still the same. She wrote it herself as a setup. Damn moron!
@gypsi001 Sarah-I saw sum tweets of urs to others that made me upset&question you?! I don't no what2do. XO about 3 hours ago
I hope Gypsi cancells
So Kate won her trip to LV no wonder why she stayed for five long days with Steve.
http://gosselinfamilyfansite.blogspot.com/
Does Milo not get that Kate unblocked her to reply and then re-blocked her?? That wasn't done in error!
Like I said earlier that's a strange 'joke' to play as a guest. You'd hafta be pretty familiar with someone and how they'd react to pull that. I'm with the crowd that thinks she did it herself.
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Are those Steve's feet in the photo?
I agree that an adult wrote that note, not so sure it was Kate. Yeah, I noticed the wine too. 200
In my opinion, that photo was carefully staged for maximum attention. However, she messed up on the Kate/Mommy. There's a reason she tweeted it.....
chefsummer are you BabyMama? You gave out her site and nothing said about Kate winning trip to vegas...
Jen said... 25
http://img.ly/gv24
Are those Steve's feet in the photo?
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Might be one of the boys
Did anyone else notice that it looks like there is something under those plastic eggs? It looks like a sheet or something. Maybe to make it look like there are more eggs than there really are. Of course she reads here. We've been asking for that picture all day. Plus if you notice they are in a bin. That doesn't mean they have been used this year. Why not pictures of them hidden. I won't say pictures of the kids looking because that is none of my business. I question whether they were used at all. If Kate didn't lie so much we wouldn't have doubts.
Well I saw the tub-o-eggs but still don't believe that they were all filled and hidden. Had she really filled them there would have been a pix of her doing so. Also I thi k she would have posted a pix of the 8 hunting for them.
Tell you what, if gypsi cancels, I would bet that another member of the cruise (nickie, she is traveling I believe with her 3 kids) will drop as well. These two bonded right off on Twitter and seem to keep in close touch now.
People on Twitter are saying gypsi's group is only 5. I had calculated more because she said she has 5 kids and is bringing her mom. Maybe she's not bringing the youngest kids. Anyway, if gypsi and nickie dropped out, I reckon that's at least a third of the group. Kate is skating on some very thin ice here. She's a nitwit.
chefsummer, I would never click on any Kate fan site, ever.
31 She's a nitwit.
No kidding.
Oh and I don't care about her eggs, because either way is really disturbing. Either she really did fill (or have filled) 1200 plastic eggs for eight kids (I have a hard time believing some parents let their two kids come over for Easter). 150 eggs a kid is INSANE and ridiculous and just tells me she's maniacally trying to buy the kids' affection.
Or she lied. And that's disturbing for obvious reasons.
Either way is weird and gross. I'll be glad when she shuts TFU about Easter.
Supposedly the custody hearing is Wednesday.
Kate Doesn't Rate said... 32
chefsummer, I would never click on any Kate fan site, ever
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LoL
I just wanted to prove that she grifted the trip and that there proof from her own fans.
@gypsi001 Sarah-I saw sum tweets of urs to others that made me upset&question you?! I don't no what2do. XO about a minute ago
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Could Kate please clarify the rules? Is a sheeple allowed to also be open to Jon and open to his book and interested in buying it? Or do you have to hate Jon to go on Kate's cruise?
She truly is 12 years old. What does is matter if a sheeple is tweeting Jon, who cares, it's a free country. This sheeple can read what she wants and be nice to who she wants, you bitch. Would she honestly be out hundreds of thousands of dollars just because she hates Jon THIS much?
Jon is laughing last.
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I find this terribly unhealthy for the kids to see.
Or she lied. And that's disturbing for obvious reasons.
Either way is weird and gross.
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Totally agree. Either way it's WEIRD.
A scorpion asks a frog to carry him across a river. The frog says but you'll sting me! The scorpion asks why would I do that? It would doom us both! So the frog agrees, and halfway across, the scorpion does indeed sting the frog. The frog's last words are spent asking the scorpion why. He says I am a scorpion.
Kate is the scorpion. Her nature is irrepressible, no matter the consequences. The scorpion's final words in the fable are, "it is better we should both perish than that my enemy should live."
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Oh my God. Bingo.
Anyone have Multiple Blessings around? Kate's journal with her printing is in it...it does not really look like this printing as she is L handed and hers kind of slopes, unlike this. I bet she had a twin write it.
Oh, and just had time to look at the egg pic- it DOES look like there's a layer of scrunched up paper under the eggs to give the illusion of more....still, that's a heck of a lot of eggs!
I do apologize. I thought for some reason that Jon's party was over the weekend or went into the weekend.
Still, how would you feel if both of your parents were off partying and left you with a nanny?
Does Kate honestly think a hater would spend this kind of money on a cruise with her? My God what an EGO she has.
We all joked about it when it was first announced but not a single one of us was really serious about forking over this kind of money just to see it go down. Good grief.
Poor Gypsi, she's just a NICE young woman with a bunch of kids and just wants a nice vacation and also feels like being nice to Jon too because she just seems like a NICE person in general and doesn't have hate in her heart, and all of a sudden gets black listed?? Sad.
I would like to point out that this is yet another Kate fiasco that once again had absolutely nothing, whatsoever, to do with the haters. Kate and only Kate did this.
Steph, Jon's event was a screening. Kate's event was a comedy show.
In fairness, neither of them I would call parties.
I think I would feel worse if my parent left me on their custodial time. Only one parent did that, and that was Kate.
@ gypsi001..girl..Uknow critics R feeding on this mistake 2make Kate look bad, Kate has so m
much going on...easy 2make errors...she's human!
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I love the blame shifting. It's our fault now??? We are not making Kate look bad. KATE is making HERSELF look bad.
Today, Kate said the easter eggs were filled last night. Yesterday, she said they were filled Sat morning.
I looked at her fan site, and didn't see any reference to the Vegas trip being a freebie.
I have wondered, what happened to this site and it's owner? She doesn't seem to be staying current, nor does she appear to pop up on twitter. Perhaps she has either tired of the Kate fiasco, or has taken off those rose colored glasses.
I hope that Wednesday's court date is a win for the kids, whatever the outcome may be.
Always count on Milo admin to blame others for kate's bad behavior. you can set a watch by her responses.
Also..How does that even make sense if she blocked, then unblocked to tell gypsie why, then reblock.
Milo wheedling is pathetic. I am really rooting for Gypsi to tell kate to kiss it..She should also look into getting her money back on the UNHEARD of clause that the celeb doesn't WANT her on the cruise.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 37
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I find this terribly unhealthy for the kids to see.
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Why is the spoon on the wrong side of the fork?
Smoochie said... 24
"Does Milo not get that Kate unblocked her to reply and then re-blocked her?? That wasn't done in error!"
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Milo doesn't get anything except that Milo's role in life is to be protector and defender of Kate at all costs. Milo is incapable of anything else.
Paula, sorry but you are wrong. Jesus entered Jerusalem riding on a donkey, which was the begining of His path to the Crucifixion and reserection.
Yes, and that was Palm Sunday. On the Sunday, which we celebrate as Palm or Passion Sunday, Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament prophecies of Genesis 49:10-12 and Zechariah 9:9: Rejoice heart and soul, daughter of Zion! Shout for joy, daughter of Jerusalem! Look, your king is approaching, he is vindicated and victorious, humble and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey (Zech 9:9).
I also hope that gypsie pulls her self and her family from Kate's lame cruise.
I hope she gets her money back since Kate wants to be so rude.
I said...
Why is the spoon on the wrong side of the fork?
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Oops. I am so tired! I meant knife! After hiding 2,550 Easter eggs for two kids, I'm ready to crash.
Those shoes in the easter egg pic look like Steve's. I bet the two friends were HIS kids.
Wonder if Gina was invited?
Thank you Easter Bunny, now I OFFICIALLY have every Jon&Kate+8 dvd set ever! @Kateplusmy8 <3 you!! http://pic.twitter.com/KE1XWfn2
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin
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Hey if your such a Kate fan bu Kate plus 8 dvd's.
Oh there are none lol.
Sweet???
Gentle???
Giving Personality???
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I think this tweet was for Gypsi, not Kate. Yes?
What's the latest on the Gypsi/Kate saga? Is she still blocked?
I am really rooting for Gypsi to tell kate to kiss it..She should also look into getting her money back on the UNHEARD of clause that the celeb doesn't WANT her on the cruise.
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No kidding. Once again Kate breaks the mold. Because it can't be said enough, you can't make this stuff up.
What happens when someone this severely mentally ill gets themselves famous.
In the past when you actually had to act and have talent no one this mentally ill could break through.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 37
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I find this terribly unhealthy for the kids to see.
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So do you think it is healthy for the kids to see Jon moving onto ANOTHER girlfriend so soon?
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
...it's all over!The last of r guests hav gone, house is still in partial disarray,all r well fed,very well candied (includingmommy!)& happy
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What guest Steve and his kids went back home.??
So do you think it is healthy for the kids to see Jon moving onto ANOTHER girlfriend so soon?
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Huh? When did I say anything about Jon's girlfriends. The fact that one thing is unhealthy doesn't mean something completely different is. Someone is al little obsessed with Jon here, we're not talking about him!
Out of curiosity though, when is the proper time, in your book, to move on to another relationship? And isn't the more important question when the children should be included?
So, the Easter guests are collecting their purses, baskets of Easter gifts and candy, saying what a lovely time they had, and Kate is.....tweeting?
Aggie, BM doesn't tweet often, but she was just on Kate's Twitter a short while ago. I have heard that she is putting a lot of time into getting one of her children into "the biz." Not sure whether it's modeling, acting, pageants, or just anything with a public profile and a big paycheck. So she's not been updating her site anywhere near as often.
So, the Easter guests are collecting their purses, baskets of Easter gifts and candy, saying what a lovely time they had, and Kate is.....tweeting?
EM said... 47
Amen to that. I am sure gypsie is sick over this; maybe she can get a doctor's note to excuse from the insane Kate excursion. Of course, there are major loopholes for Kate to get away with not going on the cruise.
Not surprised she screwed over one of the very few fans going on this cruise. One of the very few willing to pay big bucks for the pleasure of meeting with her. Again, Kate really is insane, and very unbalanced. Who would pay for her insane false personna if she even shows up? Run gypsie, run. You are too good for her.
If people trying to stop Kate "providing" for her kids is taking the bread out of their mouths, does that mean not buying Jons book is also taking food out of their mouths. After all, he has to make money to pay child support. You know, it only pays for their lunches?
Her guests HAD to have been Steve and his kids. As far as Jon being in another relationship, I have to question why he isn't comfortable being without companionship. He seems to jump right into another relationship in 60 seconds flat.
I wonder if Kate and Steve will marry this year?
One comment about Jon does not make an obsession. When I do thousands we will talk.
Since Jon and Kate have separtated Jon has gone from one girlfriend to the next with maybe a month at the most in between. Is he afraid of being alone?
He may have been with Ellen for almost 2 years but really how stable was that relationship? Ellen is already living with another guy and who knows how long Jon has been with the latest girl.
njay said... 63
If people trying to stop Kate "providing" for her kids is taking the bread out of their mouths, does that mean not buying Jons book is also taking food out of their mouths. After all, he has to make money to pay child support. You know, it only pays for their lunches?
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Who's stopping Kate from providing for the kids.?
Are you kidding me said... 56
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What new girlfriend ?- Please- do tell.
I don't have any questions about Jon and his romantic life. You know why? I don't know squat about it. He apparently has a girlfriend. That's all I know. I don't NEED to know more. But I don't see anything wrong with either one of them dating someone else. They're divorced and still relatively young.
As for the kids dealing with their parents having relationships, well, that's kind of what happens with divorce unless both people agree to complete chastity until the kids are 18, which is silly.
The fact that Kate can't find anyone willing to put up with her horrible self isn't something that should be held against Jon. She wanted out of the marriage, she needs to lie in that empty bed she made.
And I don't believe she had any guests. She made that up, just like TLC turned Jamie, her acquaintance, into a "dear friend" because it was looking weird that Kate had not a single friend. Say you "have guests" and you don't sound as lonely and pathetic as she is. Why do you think she doesn't want M&C on Twitter? They'd see her lies.
A two year relationship is usually pretty darn stable.
Since I know virtually nothing about when Jon and Ellen broke up (just because he announced it some time ago doesn't mean it wasn't over for months before that), and I know nothing about this new girlfriend, I don't have much to say.
However, I know many people who are always in a relationship who are extremely healthy people. Just because you prefer not to be single doesn't mean there is something wrong with you upstairs. After all married people can be in a relationship for forty or fifty years and no one finds that unhealthy or suggests they should try just being single for awhile, lol.
Gift of grab said... 60
Aggie, BM doesn't tweet often, but she was just on Kate's Twitter a short while ago.
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Thanks for the info! I didn't realize she was one of the twits on twitter.
She really idolizes Kate; maybe her kids can buy her a house like Kate's did.
Another thought. If Kate and Steve marry, does he have the income to support her lifestyle? I think if push came to shove, and Steve said it's me or the kids, she would pick Steve if he could continue her lifestyle she so greatly cherishes.
That's another reason Steve and Kate might think they are "wise" not to officially marry.
In PA does your child support go away if you marry? Of course Kate would do whatever she could to cheat the system and stick it to Jon even if she really wanted to marry Steve otherwise.
I still don't believe Kate and Steve have a romantic relationship. I don't even see any reason to believe he was there today.
Some tennis shoes in a picture and her saying she had "guests" doesn't mean she and Steve have a relationship and he was there.
He gets paid to be her escort and help her through airports. And maybe he boinks her for good measure, I don't know, though she's always struck me as someone who finds sex icky.
NJAY
Damn good point
Kate Doesn't Rate said... 68
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It appears she did have guests, from looking at the easter egg bin pic she tweeted. Another site has the same pic, alongside a pic of Steve's tennis shoes. Look like the same shoes.
Jon's flitting from one ended relationship right into another one just makes my antennae go up. Just seems like you know, he would need to take a breath and just say, wtf, I need to slow down, lol.
I would think PA child support would continue whether she remarried or not, it doesn't end his responsibility to his kids.
I am sure she is madly in love with Steve, has been for years, and desperately wants a new wedding ring, ya know, since she didn't want to take off that old one!
After all married people can be in a relationship for forty or fifty years and no one finds that unhealthy or suggests they should try just being single for awhile, lol.
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Please, being in a long term marriage does not compare to being in a dozen short term relationships. At this rate that Jon is going that is what it is going to be.
If Jon had no kids I would say go for it. But, he does have kids and those kids are going to be in those relationships too. Do you think it is healthy for them to form attachments to these women and then they are gone?
For what it's worth, those shoes look exactly like the sneakers that Steve's boys wore in a previous paparazzi photo.
A lot of kids tend to wear the same shoes over and over even if they out grow them and have to get bigger sizes.
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Kate_Gosselin_Pool_Party.jpg
Also I don't see Steve being a step-dad to the 8 when he doesn't seem to care enough for his own 2 kids.
I can see the 8 having no respect for him as a stepfather.
Him try to tell them what to do when they get older I don't see it.
I don't see them listing to Kate when they get older either.
Please, being in a long term marriage does not compare to being in a dozen short term relationships. At this rate that Jon is going that is what it is going to be.
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What the heck? Exaggerate a bit here. Jon has been in one relationship in the past two years. A dozen???? Good grief it's been ONE, that's far fewer relationships than many extremely healthy and stable people I know have been in! I don't think Jon even considers some of the dates he went before then real relationships. You're allowed to date several people before you hit on the person you want to have a real long term relationship with. It is allowed. You don't just strike up a long term relationship with the first person you date after you divorce if they're not the right one. When I was doing the dating thing I probably went through at least six or seven so-so to bad men in a short time period before I found the one. None of it was very serious at all, it's just DATING. I'm not unstable in the slightest, I'm very healthy in my relationship. How long has it been since you dated? You don't remember this?
what if the kids did make the card and it's too hint to Steve to stop leading mommy on and to marry her. Who knows..maybe the kids see kate's dark moods when he's gone and her giddiness when he is aroound
Jon's flitting from one ended relationship right into another one just makes my antennae go up. Just seems like you know, he would need to take a breath and just say, wtf, I need to slow down, lol.
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My only issue with this is that we don't have the first clue when he and Ellen broke up. They could have broken up months ago. It's not like Jon feels a need to announce it the second it happened. He finally said something when rumors were flying. I'm curious how much time people think is required, just in general, before moving on to another relationship. It's a little insulting to healthy people who don't feel they have to experience "single-dom" for a set period of time in order to be stable in another relationship. Personally I am over being single.
Her tweets are so annoying. Since when is an Easter Dinner called Carb Loading?
She really latches onto stuff doesn't she?
And here we go again, deflect away from Kate and her latest screw-ups, lets attack Jon, throw these stories out there to pull the attention away from Kate and whats she's doing. Typical and not new ...
In PA does your child support go away if you marry?
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Not a chance. I know that in the past, if the new husband would adopt the woman's children, then she couldn't collect child support from her ex, the father of the children. I don't know if that has changed or not.
Smoochie, the M.O. does get tiring and I'm afraid I fall for it with the best of them.
No one was talking about Jon. The conversation had nothing to do with him. But out of the blue he is thrown under the bus. Just like Kate does!
Call me a bad mom. I have always been in a relationship. Kids dad abandoned them. When kids were 1 and 2 I started a relations that lasted 6 years. When we broke up I jumped into a another and we are over 10 years strong.
It depends on the family. Some kids are not traumatized by a parent being in a relationship.
The G8 have been groomed to accept adults. Heck I think they WISH Steve would commit to kate and stop coming and going because I bet it effects kate's moods.
I just don't see the point in ragging on Jon for dating. He's divorced. He had a gf for two years post divorce. Now he's apparently seeing someone else.
So what?
I look at it like this: if you don't want your kids dealing with mommy and daddy having post-divorce boyfriends and girlfriends, don't get divorced. Because chances are VERY good that one or both parents are going to move on. There's no law against this.
And does anyone really think Kate gives a shit about how her kids feel about their dad's romantic life? Hardly.
EM, you are not a bad mom. I don't think anyone should be required to be single if it's not for them. I don't think there is anything inherently unhealthy about being in a relationship, divorced or not. It depends on the person and the situation. I think unhealthy relationships, and healthy ones, come out of all kinds of situations and there is no way to lump them all together. Close friend of mine met the love of her life when she was going through a terrible divorce. Everyone told her WAIT, get things sorted out, get the kids stable, etc, before doing anything hasty. But she fell in love with him and decided to plunge ahead, even though she was scared to death. They've been married 20 years now and have two amazing kids and are a wonderful family and his step kids LOVE him.
I do think being single for as long as Kate has the potential to be unhealthy too. It's one thing if you're single because you are focusing on your kids, but she has made it known she is actively searching for a partner and it's obvious being single has nothing to do with her focus on the kids, she doesn't care--and yet she can't seem to fine someone. Something is off about that.
Friend in PA thanks. In some states they consider all your income including your new spouse.
Of course Kate might be so stupid that she thinks it works this way without asking her lawyer.
If there's a custody hearing coming up could it be that Kate's about to go public with her relatioship with Steve. She's known for dropping hints - thus the note on the table? If she can show she's in a committed relatioship does that score points with a judge?
By the way what exactly does this "future husband" thing mean anyway?
Was it for Steve to sit? Was it an empty place setting held for him? It's all so weird the things she dreams up. Very weird.
I am really rooting for Gypsi to tell kate to kiss it..She should also look into getting her money back on the UNHEARD of clause that the celeb doesn't WANT her on the cruise.
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Gypsi should have cancelled the cruise when she and Nicki were screwed over, with the Cindy/CJ fiasco. I would have seen red flags back then and not even given the cruise another chance. I would have walked away and not looked back. There have been two strikes now. That's enough.
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And all scrubby dub dub cleaned and shiny and ready for next year. Bitch, please.
If those eggs were hidden and then found by eight little hands I guarantee they wouldn't look that good. There would be dirt and grass and the usual outside crapola on them.
Hey Resident--I just have to ask:) Who was instructing the Target staff to "guard the doors"--Katie Irene or a Target Manager? If it was Katie Irene, was she told NO? Like the tanning salon that refused to let her use the back door?
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I think it was an agreement between Kate and the store. She had also previously been given security escort while shopping (this was back when she was still a celebrity) and to have a check out line shut down for her. My daughters were here for dinner today and they all had a good laugh over it.
I don't mean to sound judgmental, it just strikes me as strange that he seems to go from one relationship to the next without a hiccup. But like you said, we don't know the particulars of dates and such.
You would think he might be a little gun shy; being married to Kate would make most mean swear off women for good, lol.
If I had a court date coming up this week, I don't think I would be tweeting away like I didn't have a care in the world. Wonder if Steve will be there? Isn't this the first court date since the TLC contract expired? If she can jaunt to Target and run country roads alone, why in the world does she need a companion to go to court? If Jon suspected an affair between these two years ago, I don't think Kate is using her two brain cells by bringing lover boy to a custody court date. Geesh.lol
If I had a court date coming up this week, I don't think I would be tweeting away like I didn't have a care in the world.
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Overcompensating as usual. Everything's fine folks nothing to see here! She's going to look really stupid for essentially "lying" by omission and pretending she knew nothing about a court date when this happens.
Out of curiosity though, when is the proper time, in your book, to move on to another relationship? And isn't the more important question when the children should be included?
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Considering it's been 'leaked' that Jon has a custody hearing coming up soon, maybe he should be concentrating on that 100%.
Obviously, he can't stop living his life but I've been through custody cases with ONE child and I had NO time to be wooing a man. I was laser-focused on getting my son back. Once I had done that, I knew I had all the time in the world to worry about my private life. JMO.
Do you think the "Kate's future husband" could be Kate's way of letting us know she is engaged? Just a thought....
Look BACK, Ashley the Nanny said on tape, five years of this abusive treatment.... Kate Gosselin has not one friend.
Maybe he finds the support system helpful. Who knows maybe he focuses better when he has support. The fact that he is even going back to court yet again suggests that he certainly is laser focused on his kids. You would think after almost three years of this most fathers would concede. He hasn't.
Not everyone processes relationships the same way. Not everyone finds relationships to be a distraction.
This is my last comment.
I do agree with you somewhat Admin. Someone is going to look stupid this week and it is not going to be Kate.
Too late. Kate already looks stupid this week for blocking a paying costumer.
Kate has pretty much looked stupid ever since she started with her twitter nonsense. Stupd, and psychotic.
Kate is going to show up in court dressed down, wearing very little make-up, with her hair pulled back in a perfect chignon and act all woe-is-me, I didn't do anything wrong, I'm a single mom boo hoo blah blah blah.
I know a woman exactly like Kate and that's what she did to convince the court she was as innocent as a newborn lamb. It worked too.
I am pulling for Jon but I'm also very wary of Kate. She's soooo conniving.
Was it for Steve to sit? Was it an empty place setting held for him? It's all so weird the things she dreams up. Very weird.
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Kate has an imaginary friend? You know, when kids have them, they set places for them at dinner, and sit with them to watch television or play games and nobody is allowed to sit in that chair.
All the chatter of Kate and Steve, well, if it quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. Jon expressed concern about this relationship years ago, when they were flying all over the country while Jon was home with the kids.
Kate changed her looks, clothes, hairstyle. It was reported Steve picked out her boob job size.
Jamie came and went, Ashley came and went, so did other family members, crew, etc.
I first noticed Steve on the Utah plane trip to the skiing resort. He has been ever present since that time.
Steve has been the one person that never left.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out they have had a relationship for years.
A strange relationship, but they are both strange people.
AuntieAnn....Off topic
I laugh every time I see that commercial about auto-correct. "I just e-mailed my boss and told him I'm in bed with a nasty clown". Oddly, I forget who the sponsor is, I think it's Rogers, and only seen in Canada. So funny.
What really gets me about the sheeply and their constant trashing of Jon is that Kate has been having an inappropriate relationship with a man who was not her husband WAY before she and Jon divorced. I guess Jon should have referred to dates as "bodyguards" and that would have been accepted?
UM can she not even tweet with out throwing an um in? I really hope whatever happens on Wednesday it is something that will make the kids happy.
Can I despise Kate AND be critical of Jon? Or am I labelled a sheeple for not giving Jon the benefit of the doubt 100%?
If Kate were jumping from boyfriend to boyfriend, you can bet she'd be called names one shouldn't repeat.
IMO, because of Jon's past, this jumping from girl to girl looks like he's insecure. I can't be the only one. Maybe people are afraid to criticize Jon because they get called Sheeple. JMO but I still see Jon's picture at the top of the screen.
Sami, yes you can criticize Jon and yes I can disagree with you.
I think the problem is I don't consider a TWO YEAR relationship "jumping from girl to girl." Maybe you do. In the time Jon and Ellen to go through their relationship a newborn went all the way well into toddler hood. It's a long time in my view.
The only thing I won't do is ban you from the RTK cruise next summer, I promise.
Jumping In, yesterday my autocorrect called my friend Chelsey, CHEESY.
Haha that was a good one.
Auntie Anne yes I've seen that look before. Poor pitiful me.
I can't wait to see if anyone calls her out on playing dumb about court days.
By the way, Kate, it would be malpractice for your attorney not to keep you informed of court dates. We are obligated to keep clients informed of significant developments in the case. Why don't you report your attorney to the state bar if you're really so clueless about what's happening to your own kids?
My daughter's phone auto corrects her high school athletic coach's name..(won't say specific name here though)
It auto corrects to Coach Asshole.
We think that name suits him better.
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And BTW, Admin, has anyone told you lately thanks for running this awesome blog? We can agree/disagree, and it's done respectfully. I think that's totally cool!
Paula#107...it is just speculation that there is something going on between Kate and Steve. There's been no proof. I think if it were true someone would have been all over it and the rag mags would have run with it. It's been my understanding Jon started that and later recanted.
If Kate had been with Steve for two to three years now, you'd think they would have been busted by SOMEONE by now, somehow. You can't be in the public eye as much as she was back then and not get found out on something that bug for that long.
Jumping In - Oh that's right it's a Telus commercial only shown in Canada. I should have explained that earlier to Joy in Virginia.
It IS funny. Auto-correct is like Google. I get irked at it sometimes when it thinks it knows what I'm searching for... 'did you mean_____?'
NO I didn't. lol.
Hey Kate,
Please don't compare running from the Nazis to running from paparazzi. It's not just illogical, it's also insensitive.
Thanks,
The Whole Damn World
Kate's back on twitter. You think she'd be exhausted from getting up early, doing breakfast, church, cooking lunch, doing eggs, entertaining company,cleaning up the mess, doing dinner, showers, laundry,,etc.
Nope! We are back on twitter making new 'dreams. She and one of the twins want to do voice-overs on movie.
I need to puke.
She really lives in her own 'reality' doesn't she?
I guess Jon should have referred to dates as "bodyguards" and that would have been accepted?
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Paula, Jon called them 'nannies'.
Again off topic with Auto-correct.
My husband does bookkeeping work for a building contractor. He also sends out invoices for this company. The other day he sent out an invoice for a renovation of a master bath.
The invoice almost went out with auto-correct stating "renovation of masturbate", close call!
OMG, we laughed so hard.
As for Kate, Easter dinner reduced to a carb-loading experience, while waiting for her future husband to take his seat at the table.
I haven't had a chance to catch up on all comments, but I've been following the Gypsi saga. She sounds like a genuinely nice person who didn't have a clue about the real Kate--the nasty, vindictive one. She was clueless that tweeting Jon would land her on Kate's block list--despite the thousands of dollars she was forking over for the cruise.
I looked back at the cancellation chart posted on Preesi. It looks as though if Gypsi cancels now, she'll lose $200 per person--$1,000 or $1,200 for her five or six people. That's a heck of a lot of money. If I were Gypsi, I'd be both hurt and furious and also feel humiliated for the public flogging Kate gave her.
And here we go once again she just doesn't quit does she.?
And how is it fun for the both of u Kate.? She works and you take a nice cut.?
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@MiloandJack lol Mady just said that her dream for me/her is 2do voice 4 cartoon movie! Funny you mention.. Fun for us both!:)
...Also, the amount Gypsi would lose will double to $400 per person on April 26, so she has two and half weeks before the price goes even higher to $2,000 or $2,400 in losses.
Carezee, just a few nights ago she tweeted something to the effect that, in talking with her older girls, she would have to have a date before she could get married (something like that). If she's still going on about not even really dating, how could she possibly pop in and say, oh hi my tweeties, fabulous news, I'm ENGAGED?
Oh she's back to making movies in her head again. Sounds like she and Mady enjoy the same delusions. Except in Mady's case, I'm sure it's just giving "Mommy" what she needs to hear.
Kate has an imaginary friend? You know, when kids have them, they set places for them at dinner, and sit with them to watch television or play games and nobody is allowed to sit in that chair.
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In honour of Easter maybe it was a seat for Harvey. If you don't get that joke please take time out to catch up on classic films. :)
I will be interested in seeing who Khate's solicitor is. Same team that TLC bought and paid for or did she have to go out and find someone new? Think she'll refuse to pay them if all doesn't go her way?
Oh she's back to making movies in her head again. Sounds like she and Mady enjoy the same delusions. Except in Mady's case, I'm sure it's just giving "Mommy" what she needs to hear.
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Mady is a master at telling Kate what she wants to hear. I never would have expected it but I think she will make out the strongest out of all eight.
Virginia Pen Mom said...
I haven't had a chance to catch up on all comments, but I've been following the Gypsi saga. She sounds like a genuinely nice person who didn't have a clue about the real Kate--the nasty, vindictive one.
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If she doesn't have a clue about Khate's history she is not very bright. If she does know and doesn't care she's not very sane. Or that good of a person/mother.
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Who's stopping Kate from providing for the kids.?
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Chef, Kate cried all the time thet or rather was a comment from I believe one of the view ladies that people who wanted to keep Kate from working in the indistery, were take bread out of the mouth of her kids.
I was using the parody that if Kate blocked her fan for wanting to buy Jon's book, isn't she then taking bread out of the mouth of her kids because Jon pays child support.
sorry for poor spelling.
If she doesn't have a clue about Khate's history she is not very bright. If she does know and doesn't care she's not very sane. Or that good of a person/mother.
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She doesn't strike me as a dumb sheeple. Let's face it some of them are pretty darn stupid. There's a difference between dumb and just ignorant.
I think she has five kids and hasn't spent a lot of time delving into what Kate is all about. She's seen some episodes and thinks the kids are cute and is a nice glass half full person who relates to having that many kids.
She is a pretty reasonable sheeple--problem is most of these kinds of sheeple once they get educated don't stay sheeple for long.
I'd say she got an education today.
If she doesn't have a clue about Khate's history she is not very bright. If she does know and doesn't care she's not very sane. Or that good of a person/mother.
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She doesn't strike me as a dumb sheeple. Let's face it some of them are pretty darn stupid. There's a difference between dumb and just ignorant.
I think she has five kids and hasn't spent a lot of time delving into what Kate is all about. She's seen some episodes and thinks the kids are cute and is a nice glass half full person who relates to having that many kids.
She is a pretty reasonable sheeple--problem is most of these kinds of sheeple once they get educated don't stay sheeple for long.
I'd say she got an education today.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 129
I think she has five kids and hasn't spent a lot of time delving into what Kate is all about. She's seen some episodes and thinks the kids are cute and is a nice glass half full person who relates to having that many kids.
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Yes, thanks, Admin. You said it well; this was also the way I perceived Gypsi. What do I know? But her tweets seem pretty sane, and so does she. I think she just made some assumptions based on Kate's sunshine-and-rainbows can-do-Kate Twitter persona. No, I wouldn't put that much money into a cruise unless I did LOTS of homework. But I really think she just assumed what she saw was what she would get. And five kids can keep a person pretty busy... IF they're actually taking care of them, unlike Kate!
Much like when Kate was on her TV rounds, TLC and such and much like now, when she rights, am I the only one who sits back and things, all I hear from Kate isn't actual conversation. I picture just that sound from Charlie Brown Cartoons, all the adults just used to make sounds but no words? Yeah...that's what I hear or register about Kate. It's like talking but taking where you just don't really hear anything of any value.
It be a change of pace if she'd at least talk about doing something other than what her family does, what she ate, what she slaved over, etc. How about any actual work? Say, she just spent an hour volunteering to read to kids in a library, something other than just this mundane drivel?
Kate is panhandling for a VoiceOver job for Mady and herself. Good grief, could she be any more shameless? She doesn't get it....she is merely a stretched out clown car uterus and has no talent. No gift of gab and a voice that makes people recoil. She was lucky to get a reality show, now that gig is up. Time to move the fuck on.
Kate's building her own street of dreams. Build it and they will come. LOL. Barking out her wish list has always worked in the past - wonder how it feels now that nobody is responding anymore.
Not to mention, what part of JON WILL NEVER LET THESE KIDS WORK AGAIN doesn't she understand? He would have to sign off on a voice over and he won't.
I honestly think she loves to rub it in how much her kids love to be in the limelight so that we will all understand how incredibly terrible it was of Jon to stop it.
Stupid Kate, if only you had compromised on this you might still be working right now.
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I haven't had a chance to catch up on all comments, but I've been following the Gypsi saga. She sounds like a genuinely nice person who didn't have a clue about the real Kate--the nasty, vindictive one. She was clueless that tweeting Jon would land her on Kate's block list--despite the thousands of dollars she was forking over for the cruise.
I looked back at the cancellation chart posted on Preesi. It looks as though if Gypsi cancels now, she'll lose $200 per person--$1,000 or $1,200 for her five or six people. That's a heck of a lot of money. If I were Gypsi, I'd be both hurt and furious and also feel humiliated for the public flogging Kate gave her.
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This will probably not be a popular opinion, but if I were Gypsi, I would cancel and take my losses. Or at least consult with an attorney re: whether or not I have to pay/lose the deposit (I don't know how this works--have the cruisers already paid for the whole cruise or just made deposits?). The way Katie Irene and her little minions C.J. and Cindy have been twittering and 'vetting' people, there is no way I'd have myself or my family members exposed to those people on a boat in the middle of the ocean.
BTW, Katie Irene, Hollywood just did a remake of Snow White but chose a TALENTED actress who has studied acting and paid her dues for the wicked witch part. You're too old for the ingenue part. Face it honey, Hollywood lost your number several years ago.
BWAhahahaha So Kate and Cindy collude and allow CJ to dictate the list of who does, doesn't get a serious response about the cruise. CJ and Cindy blast out personal information about cruise participants/inquirers. Then likely CJ lets Kate know that Gypsi tweeted Jon in a pleasant way.
Then Kate blocks Gypsi, unblocks her to blast her, reads another Gypsi tweet wondering what the problem is, unblocks her, blasts Gypsi again, and blocks her before she can respond. Kind of like the old slamming down the phone trick. Back in the days when the clunky phones made that horrid noise when you slammed them, it gave the slammer a certain satisfaction. It's what I miss most with electronic stuff. Anyway, that's old Kate for you, the hit and run gal, multiple times.
Now the deal is that Cindy may do without several commissions, and Kate may have slit her own throat with her take, if Gypsi cancels, as she should. And they have CJ to thank for helping them with the whole mess, in fact, instigating the whole situation.
Perfect, just perfect. What do the rest of you think?
If she doesn't have a clue about Khate's history she is not very bright. If she does know and doesn't care she's not very sane. Or that good of a person/mother.
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How does that make her a bad mother or not a good person? I didn't know parenting was based on knowing Kate's history.
She seems to be liked by the non-fans on Twitter. She's respectful, and doesn't say anything nasty about anyone. She sounds like a wonderful mother.
Whoever said the CJ has a vested interest in trying to get rid of as many fans as possible so she could spend more time with Kate was spot on. It's ridiculous Kate doesn't see the conflict of interest CJ has.
Think about it Kate. Why would CJ want 100 fans there? No, it's better just to have a few, and weed out as many as possible.
Kate must have unblocked gypsi at some point, she's following her again. Wonder if Kate ever even explained herself to gypsi. I'd guess not.
Border @137...Perfect, just perfect. What do the rest of you think?
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Gypsi was thinking about cancelling before. She should have gotten out then while the getting out was good.
I'm trying to put myself in Gypsi's shoes and I think I would be mortified if I were going on a celeb cruise and they blocked me! And everyone was talking about it. It's not Gypsi's fault at ALL but how embarrassing. For that reason alone I would pull out I think.
Mady is a master at telling Kate what she wants to hear. I never would have expected it but I think she will make out the strongest out of all eight.
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Admin I also believe Mady had to find a way to win back some of the attention that got taken away from her and Cara when the tups were born. I remember Cara crying at the crayola factory (I think) that she wished it could just be the four of them again. The stress on the twins must have been awful when the six came along and then again when the cameras moved right into their home. Cara is more reserved but Mady seems to have always voiced her opinion. She's got Kate figured out for sure now.
Kate must have unblocked gypsi at some point, she's following her again. Wonder if Kate ever even explained herself to gypsi. I'd guess not.
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After all the pretend confusion and defensive tweets, I suspect good ole Milo sent her idol a secret heads-up email and we'll suddenly see Milo tweeting "seeee??? i TOLD U it was just a misunderstandin! Isn't she nice and sweet and understandin?" - without acknowledgin (sic) that it definitely was not a "misunderstandin".
Either that, or Cruise Cindy began to panic...
I could be wrong, but I think G. booked her whole family, but only 3 for the KT part.
Oh definitely someone other than CJ finally got Kate's ear and pointed out she MIGHT not want to block someone paying to bring three to five people (I can't remember) on her damn cruise.
I'm trying to put myself in Gypsi's shoes and I think I would be mortified if I were going on a celeb cruise and they blocked me! And everyone was talking about it. It's not Gypsi's fault at ALL but how embarrassing. For that reason alone I would pull out I think.
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I most certainly would cut my losses and pull out, but not only because I'd be embarrassed. I'd have red flags on the way this whole cruise has been handled, and now this latest thing with Kate -- you better believe I'd stay at home. I'd first ask about a full refund, and if that were denied, I'd take it to an attorney with everything that I know about what's been happening with the whole vetting process, the violation of privacy and the reason I wanted out. Something is fishy with this whole thing, and I'd gather proof and documentation, as well as time lines and make every effort to get as much of a refund as I could.
Pity Party (145), I think you're right. Her mom, her 5 kids, herself, the only one I'm not sure about is the husband. That's why I've always thought it was 7 or 8. And she was paying the Kate rate for 3 of that group.
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If she doesn't have a clue about Khate's history she is not very bright. If she does know and doesn't care she's not very sane. Or that good of a person/mother.
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How does that make her a bad mother or not a good person? I didn't know parenting was based on knowing Kate's history.
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When it comes to spending a families money, which if Admin is right the sheeple don't have much of, just to be near this woman and yet knowing very little about her, especially when it is glaringly obvious 99% of the population dislikes her, yes, in my opinion that makes you a bad mom.
Something is fishy with this whole thing, and I'd gather proof and documentation, as well as time lines and make every effort to get as much of a refund as I could.
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I don't know if this thing is fishy so much as it's just a bunch of stupid people trying to run something far over their heads.
The more we get into it the more the screw ups pile up.
I don't know if she's a 'bad' mom just because she likes Kate. Naive, maybe.
Let's reserve the title of bad mom for Kate.
Have to completely disagree Gypsi is a bad mom. I think she assumes the best of people. Why wouldn't you ever think a professional cruise could go this wrong? I mean I knew the whole thing had its potentials but even I had no idea it would turn this bad and I know quite a bit about Kate.
I guess I can think of certain bandsI like well enough to maybe do a cruise with them and I wouldn't research a thesis about all of them personally. I like their music, and I assume a professional cruise is just that, professional! Poor Gypsi probably just likes what she's seen of Kate, relates to her, and never realized anything like this could go this wrong. Has nothing to do with being a bad mom. If anything she is a good mom not spending all her time emerged with Kate and focusing on her five kids instead.
You shouldn't have to do a bunch of background checking for something run through Alice Travel, truly. No more than you would do a bunch of background research on other huge companies. I'm working with a travel agency and I read enough reviews to know they are legit and left it at that. I don't have a need to seek out every last little thing about them. They have been around 20 years and have decent enough rules, it's a fair assumption they are legit just like it's a fair assumption Alice is legit. I feel nothing but sympathy for Gypsi. I was afraid something like this could happen but never really thought it would.
I know I'm a little late here, but I was having a fun day with family.
There was an article in the Reading Eagle today about a family that has had this mega-huge egg hunt for 50 years now lots of kids. The lady said she does about 1000 eggs. But she started stuffing them in March while watching NCAA basketball. She didn't start YESTERDAY. I definitely believe she lied about the eggs.
I love the website www.damnyouautocorrect.com
LOVE The invoice for masturbation. Way too funny.
So kate quietly unblocked Gypsi? I was really hoping Gypsi would push for a full refund on the kate part and just enjoy her cruise with her family.
Katie Cry-duh said... 133
She was lucky to get a reality show, now that gig is up. Time to move the fuck on.
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A-fucking-men.
Isn't is crazy that kate somehow managed to screw up A CRUISE! How simple is that? promote and show up, smile, enjoy and done.
Everything she touches turns to crap. Somehow she was even able to turn Cindy from a life long professional cruiser into a rabid, stupid sheeple who is destroying years of credibility with one cruise.
What is the opposite of the Midas touch?
When it comes to spending a families money, which if Admin is right the sheeple don't have much of, just to be near this woman and yet knowing very little about her, especially when it is glaringly obvious 99% of the population dislikes her, yes, in my opinion that makes you a bad mom.
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but you're saying that Gypsi is a bad mom because she's going on the cruise? I strongly disagree.
From some of the tweets I've read, I don't think that she is destitute or is spending her family's last penny to take this cruise. Far from it.
That said, I hope she's opened her eyes to the real Kate and does cancel the trip -- at least the Kate part of it.
Isn't is crazy that kate somehow managed to screw up A CRUISE! How simple is that? promote and show up, smile, enjoy and done.
Everything she touches turns to crap. Somehow she was even able to turn Cindy from a life long professional cruiser into a rabid, stupid sheeple who is destroying years of credibility with one cruise.
What is the opposite of the Midas touch?
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Lol I know right. All she had to do really was show up!
This is Kate, she could screw up a peanut butter sandwich.
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Katie Cry-duh said... 133
She was lucky to get a reality show, now that gig is up. Time to move the fuck on.
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Like that will ever happen but yes it is been.
And I bet you anything if Gypsi is going to cancel she's going to do it really quietly and respectfully. She just doesn't seem the type to say fine screw you I'm canceling! And flounce off in a huff. Because that's just how she is, a sweet woman who puts her kids first and drama last.
Never expected to really like a sheeple, but I like this chick. It's too bad she didn't see Kate for who she is before putting money down.
What is the opposite of the Midas touch?
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The Gosselin Graze?
@gypsi001 Sarah-I saw sum tweets of urs to others that made me upset&question you?! I don't no what2do. XO about 3 hours ago
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{{Picking jaw off ground and putting it back into place}}
WTF!!!!!
Let me get this straight because my mind might be a little clouded by some fab pinot grig and Grandma's famous coconut cake. This bitch was upset by a person paying $$thousands of dollars$$ for her family to go on Kate's maritime trip to hell because this person had the AUDACITY to have a brief and cordial twatter exchange with Jon??? Kate doesn't "KNOW WHAT TO DO!!???"
How about getting the F over yourself, that's what you can do? How about act like the 58 yr old woman you look like? How about leaving the catty, vindictive mean girl drama to the pros- EIGHTH GRADERS.
It appears that Kate has been made aware that Gypsi is spending a small fortune on this trip and Kate unblocked her, but the fact that she blocked her in the first place is unexcusable. To be Kate's twatter buddy you have to have visceral hate for Jon like her? You have to be on her 'side'?? In all seriousness, her hatred for this man is disturbing and I would bet any amount of money she has been trying to poison those babies against him any way she can. Her hate for him combined with her everyday phobias/contempt/distrust/delusions and imagined superiority over the rest of the world is a very unhealthy model. This should not go unnoticed by those who preside over these things.
Wayward, makes you wonder if she does this to just a fan, what about friends and family? Do you have to pick Team Kate to see the kids and if you dare talk to Jon you're blacklisted? Sure seems like a real possibility.
And because it bears repeating, it's not fair not to tell us what the rules are before enforcing them. If the rule is you can't talk to Jon if you want to go on the cruise, then she needs to say so so people aren't blindsided when they are blocked!
I will grown wings and fly.
The day Kate gets over her self and starts to take other people feeling into account.
How could Kate "see sum tweets" of gypsi's if she had already blocked her? Just a little confused here...is she blithely unaware of what the blocked haters say or not?
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I don't know if she's a 'bad' mom just because she likes Kate. Naive, maybe.
Let's reserve the title of bad mom for Kate.
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No, being a Khate fan doesn't make anyone a bad mom. Spending money to go on a cruise with her AND bringing your children with you even though you have, at best, been willfully blind to the fact that your fave celeb is a child abuser and exploiter? I still say that makes you a bad mom.
And anyone who has remained a fan of Khate after everything is either sick, stupid, sad or a combination of the three.
Easy, let's not trash Kate's fans like that. That's uncalled for.
What if you were busy taking care of five kids and only had time for a few episodes of Kate's show but the ones you saw weren't that bad and you related to her because she had lots of kids.
It does not by any means make you a bad mom and I don't like people calling out people who are NOT public figures as bad mothers.
I had to go check out the tweet re: the life coach. I like Heather McTaggat:) Katie Irene's was syrupy sweet for the most part today. Her tweets should be interesting and snarky starting about Tuesday.
Poor Milo. I want to give her a pill to help her with her delusional beliefs.
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@heathermctaggar I'm not sure how to respond2this?! No need for families who are thriving to have 'life coaches'??!? and drama?Hm confused!
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@Kateplusmy8 @heathermctaggar right..first you've ever heard any sort of criticism, huh? lol.
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@Kateplusmy8 Yeah...life coach at $10,000 a pop? Who needs that when its obvious these kids R well adjusted, Kate has guided them well! :)
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@Kateplusmy8 @heathermctaggar It's clear that your children are NOT thriving, but struggling with a lot of pain and secrets, Kate.
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What is the opposite of the Midas touch?
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Nah, more along the lines of the Kreider Krap. Don't bring the kid's name into it ;)
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How could Kate "see sum tweets" of gypsi's if she had already blocked her? Just a little confused here...is she blithely unaware of what the blocked haters say or not?
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She has a public twitter
I cannot fathom how kate can try to market herself as a crafter, expert on raising kids, chef, home improvement personsona and then turn around and photograph those lame Easter baskets. If you are trying to get recognition for being skilled then get a skill. Those had to be the most mediocre things I have ever seen. At least TRY to do well so people can be impressed.
It was sad how she tweeted the basket shot and sat back and waited for the ooohing and aaahing. Talk about little effort for A LOT of talk.
Also, she finally tweeted a picture of the 1200 eggs. A bunch of empty eggs in a tupperware bin. It didn't even look full. You could see tissue stuffing under the eggs to make them look more abundant. If she really stuffed alll those eggs why not a shot of the stuffing process? How about a shot of some FILLED eggs that the kids collected. Why in the world would you photograph a tub of TLC produced eggs from last season? She is so obvious in her tweets. She does not do what she tweets. IF she did, there would be photos galore.
She tweeted the empty eggs to show she had that many. It does not prove she stuffed them..so why bother bragging about it. No way she stuffed 1200 eggs last night and gave her kids a boat load of candy. THIS from the woman who wouldn't let the kids have candy at the 4th of July parade? uh huh
Spending money to go on a cruise with her AND bringing your children with you even though you have, at best, been willfully blind to the fact that your fave celeb is a child abuser and exploiter? I still say that makes you a bad mom.
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So no matter how many wonderful things you do for your children, no matter that you put them first in your life in everything you say and do, no matter that you are raising them to be young people of excellent character, just because you take them on a cruise with Kate negates everything you have done for them in their lifetime? Kate has that much power in determining what makes another person a good mom and what makes a bad mom?
This means that all of the sacrifices you have made for them, seeing that their needs come above your own, then you're a bad mom because you happen to be a Kate fan? I can't wrap my brain around that thinking. Maybe I'm just tired!
I hope Gypsy can come to some compromise with the travel agency. Perhaps her cruse package can be transferred to a different cruse. I bet all of her kids would love to go on a Disney cruse. She seems like such a sweet nice women. I am tempted to create a twitter account just so I can tell her that. She totally deserves better. I would even suggest she transfer to a different cruse.
Nah, more along the lines of the Kreider Krap. Don't bring the kid's name into it ;)
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How about the Kreider Fuku? In the Dominican culture, a fuku is a curse or doom of death, and most every family has one.
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@Kateplusmy8 Yeah...life coach at $10,000 a pop? Who needs that when its obvious these kids R well adjusted, Kate has guided them well! :)
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Kate can't freaking guide her self down the damn street with out help.
She can't raise the 8 with out help Jon did the work and now the sitter's and nannies.
And Kate being well well adjusted how is she well adjusted on what planet.???
Milo is so far up Kate's butt it's a shame.
Perhaps her cruse package can be transferred to a different cruse. I bet all of her kids would love to go on a Disney cruse
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Didn't one of the cruisers (Gypsi or Nickie) have a Disney cruise booked and it was cancelled so they could take the Kate cruise? Who was that?
Chef Summer
You are forever grounded, never to fly.
Oops my comment at 177 refer to chef summer 164
Isn't paying to go on a cruise enough? Do they really have to hate Jon too? What's wrong with having normal fans who loved the original show? Better than the rabid anti Jon one's - especially since THE TWINS will be attending!
Fans can't wipe J&Kplus8 from their memory and change facts the way kate does. They liked him! Big deal. It kept the show going didn't it? Kate wouldn't have had her spin off if J&K wasn't successful. Does she really think SHE was the only reason people tuned in?
How can it not be enough for Gypsi to want to meet kate and be willing to pay for it? She had to be banished for telling Jon she looks forward to his book? Doesn't buying Jon's book support the G8? kate needs to get over herself. I also think maybe Gypsi should do a little research now on kate and decide if she really is worth spending the extra $ on. She actually has an interesting case for refund and I would love to see that attempted. It's a 1st for sure. A celeb blocking a fan for NO REASON except she enjoyed the celebs costar in the show. Admin is right YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP!
Oh well, at least kate can answer Gypsi personally since the cruise will be a "small, intimate affair." She can ask kate over tea at high noon why she got blocked.
Kate is going to hate the cruise. 30 PEOPLE. She will have to actually spend time with her little group. HA!
Like I said before on other threads, this cruise is going to be her last down fall. They will see her as se really is. They expec a friend and they are getting a serpent.
And as for Mady and Kate doing Sound of Music...didn't I read in other threads that as a bate, her and the twins were going to do a little play of it?
Wayward, makes you wonder if she does this to just a fan, what about friends and family? Do you have to pick Team Kate to see the kids and if you dare talk to Jon you're blacklisted? Sure seems like a real possibility.
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That's how it seemed to go with the nanny situation I wrote about yesterday. To hell with possible dire emergencies and/or any other situations little people can sometimes get into-do not contact their father. Living and breathing for your kids does not include parental alienation.
Overall, I give this latest F-up w/Gypsi on Kate's quest for positivity 5 frowny faces :( :( :( :( :(
@Kateplusmy8 Yeah...life coach at $10,000 a pop? Who needs that when its obvious these kids R well adjusted, Kate has guided them well! :)
@heathermctaggar I'm not sure how to respond2this?! No need for families who are thriving to have 'life coaches'??!? and drama?Hm confused!
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Yeah, what drama? The fight with PhillyCC, Em Tanner, the Dance Mom, Tony from DWTS, the fake twatter accounts created and deleted in hours only to spread a false rumour, the dissing of ALL the Christian schools in her area and her tantrum over an adult fan exercizing her right to tweet whomever she chooses...... none of that is dramatic or anything.
typical kate. she couldn't even fake being decent long enough to get fans on the ship. Just like every other venture she ruins it.
SHE'S RUINED!
Hate to see people allow her to behave that way. I would be on the phone getting my refund stat. I would do the cruise minus the kate part on principle alone. After the boohoo I dont know what to think tweet..i would have been DONE.
Poor fan didn't know how to help kate and she got kicked to the curb. kate knew fan was within cancellation so she didn't give a krap. She fully expected fan to accept her fate as DENIED yet to still grovel and go on the cruise.
I hope fan brings a pic of JON AND KATE TOGETHER to get autographed.
What about this? What if the twins somehow heard through the grapevine that Mommy doesn't know about a certain fan going on the trip and blocked her. What if they ask why she was blocked?
What is Kate going to tell them? BECAUSE SHE TALKED TO YOUR DADDY???
You know what's so f-ing ridiculous? Kate is worried about one of her sweetest, kindest, gentlest fans! But not CJ, the vile mentally unstable nutcase. I feel like I'm living in a parody. Unreal. It's like you live next door to a serial killer but are worried about their dog barking and waking you up.
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She was lucky to get a reality show, now that gig is up. Time to move the fuck on.
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So the ever-almighty Kate blocks Gypsi for Tweeting Jon? Did it ever occur to Kate that this woman may have been a fan of the show JON & Kate + 8!
These cruise people had better be given the list of rules and acceptable topics before they board ship, or it'll get ugly fast. And hell will be paid if these poor people pull out their cameras!
Njay, not sure I understand what you're asking me.
People rarely swear here but even I let one rip once in awhile.
Isn't CJ taking milk from the babies mouths by running off other people who are going on the cruise? Why is that not worthy of a blocking? Surely kate realizes this CJ situation has turned other potential cruisers off.
kate should WANT normal fans on the cruise. Not just people who may ridicule Jon in front of the twins.
By the way I think we can add Gypsi to the list of "twitter wars" in just the past FOUR WEEKS???
1. Em Tanner
2. Philly pap
3. Dance Moms Melissa
4. Tony and Anderson Cooper
5. Sweet lovely fan Gypsi
Who is so angry that they are getting into such major public and juvenile fights with people this much?
kate has a way of bring a few f bombs out out people once in a while that's for sure. Her behavior is intolerable at times. It's painful to see another person get stomped on in kate's marathon to shun as many people as possible.
People are disposable, plastic eggs are not. Her values are textbook narcissist.
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@Kateplusmy8 Yeah...life coach at $10,000 a pop? Who needs that when its obvious these kids R well adjusted, Kate has guided them well! :)
@heathermctaggar I'm not sure how to respond2this?! No need for families who are thriving to have 'life coaches'??!? and drama?Hm confused!
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Yeah, what drama? The fight with PhillyCC, Em Tanner, the Dance Mom, Tony from DWTS, the fake twatter accounts created and deleted in hours only to spread a false rumour, the dissing of ALL the Christian schools in her area and her tantrum over an adult fan exercizing her right to tweet whomever she chooses...... none of that is dramatic or anything.
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Can't forget her lil dissing of Jon when he said.
He didn't miss her and his life was drama free.
Is this the fan that canceled the Disney cruise?
How out of the loop is Kate.?
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/04/kate-gosselin-blindsided-jon-gosselin-plans-child-support-court-battle
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No, being a Khate fan doesn't make anyone a bad mom. Spending money to go on a cruise with her AND bringing your children with you even though you have, at best, been willfully blind to the fact that your fave celeb is a child abuser and exploiter? I still say that makes you a bad mom.
And anyone who has remained a fan of Khate after everything is either sick, stupid, sad or a combination of the three.
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I can't agree Tamara. Maybe if I had seen her on tv for the last five years exploiting her kids, berating her husband, ripping off churches and making her children act like trained monkeys then I might change my opinion about her. As far as I can tell she thinks the same as I did about Kate five years ago before I found out what a BAD MOM KATE IS. Everyone doesn't learn everything in the same way at the same time.
I wonder how much rambling kate does about her many dreams in front of the kids for Mady to pick up and rn with the cartoon gig.
She is teaching her kids subliminally that you just ask and the genie grants - instead of showing them to focus on a goal and work for it.
I used to hate reading the stories of kate talking about God like he was her personal genie. Praying for paper towels? Really? If it's that bad maybe a little family budget planning was in order before starting another round of expensive fertility treatments when the twins were only 3. Can you imagine if they actually used that money to take care of the family they already had instead of expecting the community to support them? I'm not knocking the treatments..just the situation they were in when deciding to do them.
I still find it hard to believe kate had PCOS when she had none of the physical signs even. I just think one egg wasn't good enough for her "dreams."
She sure is one to judge Nadya. I don't see much of a difference except that Nadya admits she has mental issues and got in over her head.
Where wold Jon and kate be today if the community didn't pitch in. Nadya was shunned and had death threats. The Gosselin's were given everything and were so lucky to have the churches support. What would life look like if they were treated the same as Nadya? Would kate still be so judgemental? TLC was a financial blessing. What if the weren;t so lucky? Not many HOM families live in a McMansion and have the option of not working. What would life be like kate if you still had to nurse? What if you had to find daycare for 8? What if you couldn;t afford "helpers?" What if you couldn't jaunt off to Vegas everytime you felt overwhelmed? What if you had to pay for expenses out of pocket? Can you now understand why your gluttony and disdain for others makes you look like an ass?
Wow, just finished watching Celebrity Apprentice. Lisa Lampanelli is bitch from hell.
AA I got through most of it before crashing so don't tell me who got voted off (it's been a LONG Easter weekend rehearsing, playing with the church band, fun, two eggs not 1500, etc) but holy crap this season is WILD. There are some real meanies.
Also I like how calmly and respectfully Ivanca called out Audrey. She just said look every time I go visit you you are talking so much, even when really someone else should talk. Audrey didn't say A WORD in reply. It was like it was the first time someone nailed it when it came to how she is....but I still like how she picked on Debby Gibson's comeback tour haha.
I would so love to see Kate on this show. So bad.
Clay is exactly how I imagined--sweet and smart. Penn is exactly how I imagined--arrogant SOB. Arsenio Hall is way sweeter than I thought. And Paul Sr. is one darn GOOD SPORT.
What a genius idea for a show. Truly.
Admin, I didn't want anything from you per say. I meant if I was out of order commenting on the f bombs you could delete my post. If you didn't understand it then I didn't do a very good job of conveying it. Just forget it. I should have never said anything. My bad.
Njay no worries. I don't want it to get too foul over here but don't worry I'll say something when it does or anyone is welcome to.
Most people here don't swear or they delete it out like I do. F-ed. That I have no problem with.
Personally for a church girl I can swear like a Good Will Hunting boy on speed, and sometimes I do, but I try hard not to do it for various reasons including it offends others sometimes.
No I won't give away who got fired but Lisa Lampanelli is a bitch from hell. I can't say that too many times. lol
And yeah Trump is a freaking genius for dreaming up this show. I'm hooked.
Most people here don't swear or they delete it out like I do. F-ed. That I have no problem with.
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