From thousands of plastic eggs, to baking in a shower cap, to setting a place for "Kate's future husband" at the dinner table, to denying she knows anything about this week's upcoming custody hearing, to blocking a loyal fan and paying cruise customer from Twitter, Kate's Easter was a sometimes hysterical more often creepy glimpse into her descent into madness.And the paparazzi arrived just in time to capture it all.
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Admin, you've seen her comments (well, at least the ones that have been pulled over from Twitter). It is because she is endlessly argumentative and ALWAYS right. She can't ever "let it go." She is the sort of person who, no matter where she is or whom she is with, always believes herself to be the smartest person in the room. And if you want to take issue with that, well, she'll PROVE it to you.
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I hope she's going on the cruise...in fact I hope she gets a cabin right across the hall from Kate. Two freaking know-it-alls pretending to like each other would be worthy of a whole week of entertainment. They'll hate each other by the time it's over.
It's going to kill Kate to try to be nice to people. Purseboy will have his hands full with something other than Kate's boobies for a change.
I really cannot imagine what this cruise is going to be like.
We really need someone to go and observe. You know the fans won't tell us if anything goes wrong. Then again maybe Gypsi will tell us. Gypsi the only sheeple Mommy to ever sincerely put her kids first. She doesn't want to disappoint them by canceling. Good on her.
Admin said:
"The Australia trip was a year ago. Is it just me or is hanging onto a box of cereal for a year just well, gross?"
Well, the cereal is for the kids, so I'm sure Kate couldn't give a flying fart if it's gross.
Oh yeah, she's definitely going. She never misses an opportunity to confirm it on Twitter for the benefit of the lesser sheeple who are sadly unable to afford it. I think gypsi will figure her out very early on and steer clear.
Thanks for the explanation, administrator.
Just out of curiosity, when you read the docket, does it show which person initiated the hearing? Who requested the hearing?
It particularly upsets me when as soon as family court is mentioned, the entire field is bleating that it's Jon being a dead-beat dad again.
I'm also starting to wonder just a bit if there could possibly be any chance the child support hearing could in any way be related to Kate's decreased income since the contract ended with TLC....why I'm curious if the docket shows who initiated the hearing. The timing, considering the contract recently ended, does seem uncanny. Of course, if Jon initiated it, that would seem to rule it out.
Kate doesn't like her fans, that's what will make it so interesting. She can't even fake nice, it's not in her genetic makeup.
Sue_Buddy! Someone's picked up the baton for you at gather.com! http://t.co/P9ewAzzd
Admin, there will be enough people on the cruise who didn't go because of Kate that if anything happens, we'll hear about it. One of the good things about the haters on Twitter is some of them check Twitter for mentions of Kate. Not @ mentions, just mentions of her name. Someone will say something about her bad behavior, it always happens.
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Baw-hahah I just googled Nutrigrain cereal to see what it looks like and this is what came up:
http://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/top-sellers-are-cereal-offenders/story-e6frg3pl-1225698670300
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How funny!!
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Oh yeah, she's definitely going. She never misses an opportunity to confirm it on Twitter for the benefit of the lesser sheeple who are sadly unable to afford it. I think gypsi will figure her out very early on and steer clear.
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So let's see...that's CJ, Kate and Gypsi. Yeah, that sounds like fun. Rub-a-dub-dub.
Admin, we can have lots of fun imagining various scenarios and disasters that may befall the ” Voyage of the Dammed” as it was so appropriately christened.
The Atlantic hurricane season is predicted to be less active this year. Even so, August is historically Month with lots of activity. So we can anticipate at least a course change to avoid storms at sea. And we know it will be incredibly hot in the Caribbean in August. Good excuse for Ms Kreider to hide in her cabin all the time and avoid the decks. Ms Kreider will be stalked by the uberfan, who will actively bad mouth the other Kreider kruisers as not being dedicated enough.
No icebergs that far south. And all the reefs are well marked, so risk of collision is small. Haiti has had earthquakes in the past - could there be one during the voyage? hmmmmm.
Anyone else care to speculate?
Does this bitch have no shame. Complaining on twitter about running out of cereal from her Australia trip. Many people from all over our country today would be happy to have ANY type of cereal to feed their children. God i just want to punch her in the face.
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Give Brownie a call. I'm sure she has some in the trunk of her car, or at least knows the best places to buy expired cereal.
"Admin- the PA code you are referencing above is for when child support is first calculated, not for any subsequent modifications. Jon- has not changed his custody, only visitation."
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I don't know much about PA child support, but I do know two instances when physical residence changed over the summer months and the children lived with their father. He tried to get the support payments reduced, but couldn't. The payments remained the same as they were when they were first calculated. He had the kids for several months; she was still receiving the same weekly checks for supporting them when they weren't living with her.
There’s no way she had cereal brought from NZ AND hoarded it for one year. The first thing that came to my mind is she could not have brought a year’s worth of cereal on the airplane…that would have be one heck of a huge box to check in! It’s possible she could have them shipped but that would have cost hundreds of dollars in shipping costs in additional to the cost of buying the cereal and I don’t think she would have paid for that. So who paid for it. Another thing is that cereal has a shelf life of 6-12 months depending on what’s in the cereal mixture such as dried fruits or nuts (shorter shelf life & nuts go rancid quickly). It has been 15 months since so she has been eating moldy cereal, huh? I don’t believe her story. I just don’t.
Jon's support payments don't go up if Kate's income goes down. Jon can only pay what he's been calcuated to pay and Kate can't change that.
LB, agreed on all points. Someone in AU (the cereal manufacturer, probably) shipped them to her right after the trip as a freebie.
And again, she does not care if her kids are eating stale cereal. She didn't care that cameras were capturing her kids most private and sometimes quite painful moments for the world to see, so I can't believe she'd care if they ate stale cereal. She probably dug it out because they were in nearly full-on mutiny over eggs.
Maybe Kate bought the Nutrigrain when she was in Australia for Steve Irwin Day in November.
I also looked up the cereal online prices and it's over $8.00 for ONE box! Not including shipping cost. She really doesn't know how to save money, doesn't she? With a big family to feed, I don't know how she could justify spending alot of money on her own food to the judge as I'm pretty sure that could not be included in the documentation of the family's budget. They usually only want to know how much you spend on the kids' food, clothes, etc. But the way she has been grifting, she probably sneaked that in and presented to the judge. 'Look! $200 a week for cereal alone!. Meh.
I also have to say the younger children do appear somewhat to be on the thin side. Thin arms and legs. I don't know if it's from losing their baby fat.
I was one of eight kids. We started out in a small house but moved to bigger & bigger houses. The bigger the house got, the less close we were as siblings. I prefered the small house & have lived that way with my kids. My kids love sharing bedrooms & feel lonely when their "roommate" is away for the night. I love it.
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She said 'LAST box of Nutrigrain cereal that we brought back from Aus/NZ'. She didn't visit NZ in November, right? She is implying that the cereal was from the January 2011 trip.
I agree that all the tups but one are thin. Whether a combo of not enough too eat, genetics or medications, who knows. But one tup in particular went from a chubby toddler to an almost emaciated looking child. The other tup who was also a heavy toddler is till has her baby fat, hmmm.
That cereal business is typical Kate-style grifting and I hope the company does not give in, but might for reputation's sake.
RE ritalin and the kids/khate's weight loss, I know a lot of schools require that before they accept kids back that they've expelled or suspended they must be evaluated by a therapist first. It's not just for the good of the expelled kid, schools have to think about the other kids in the class (and any litigious parents...)
I also think that Khate is only using what Jon is paying in child support and the 15% put aside to feed/clothe the kids. The rest is HER money in her mind.
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Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 12
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She said 'LAST box of Nutrigrain cereal that we brought back from Aus/NZ'. She didn't visit NZ in November, right? She is implying that the cereal was from the January 2011 trip
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Sorry, maybe I'm having a huge brain fart or something.
Didn't Kate go to Australia for Steve Irwin Day in November of 2011? Couldn't she have bought some then?
I do not believe it is appropriate to discuss any of the kids possibly having a disorder and meds they may be taking.
That William Mantic guy wrote an earlier funny article about Kate:
http://t.co/P9ewAzzd
The similarities between K8 and OctoMom seem to increase daily. People who dare to criticize her or her choices are . . . "jealous"? (Hey Kate, tell Nadya she's not allowed to use that word without your permission!)
http://www.celebitchy.com/220315/octomom_on_the_death_threats_my_kids_could_never_have_a_better_mother_people_are_jealous/
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I do not believe it is appropriate to discuss any of the kids possibly having a disorder and meds they may be taking. ~~~
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Heather, I respect your opinion. No one said the kids were medicated, just discussing a possibility, just like many other things we have talked about. I would not name the children although it's obvious who, but this is a discussion board and it's not a negative thing about the kids- Kate, maybe!
LB, agreed on all points. Someone in AU (the cereal manufacturer, probably) shipped them to her right after the trip as a freebie.
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She said, "LAST box of Nutrigrain cereal that we brought back from Aus/NZ." Nothing about it being shipped to her. Of course, with Kate, you never know. Her word games can be quite creative at times.
I thought that Cascadian Farm was the best cereal on the planet. She's still following them. Why doesn't she tweet them and put out a calling for cereal?
I have never seen anyone grift the way this woman does. She has no shame. She's been called out over and over and over again for it, but she won't stop. It's actually quite a study in greed. Maybe she should be featured on CNBC's American Greed program.
Admin, one down, two to go!
Tweet said, "If you know something why don't YOU post all of it and let us see the truth??"
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Oh, geez Tweet, don't encourage it!
Before Kate starts babbling about all her friends who are doing the Boston Marathon next week or how she thinks she'll qualify next year, I just want to mention that Dick and Rick Hoyt are running their THIRTIETH (30th) Boston at the ages of 72 and 50! Theirs is a great story. Last night I heard an interview with Dick saying that when Rick was busy at college, he (Dick) needed to continue to train - so he ran with a bag of cement in Rick's wheelchair! So much for the casual "training" style of the Wicked Witch of the East.
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Whine from me...WHY can't she be gone? I'm tired of her and her crap. I'm tired of her non-special kids being given attention they haven't earned. I'm sick of hearing her 'promote' Mady as the next child star. She doesn't have the talent, looks, personality, etc., to make it. Sorta kinda just like her mother-figure. And we all know it is HER wish for Mady to go into 'the business' and because Mady has done a 180 degree and now is HER toady to be in favor, she feeds into 'the desire for stardom' foisted on her.
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For 99% of the population, she IS gone. No morning shows, no voiceovers, no cameras, no microphones, no reality show and no magazine covers. Except for the occasional punch line and occasional blurbs in magazines planted by her PR person, the only way to know what she is up to is to actively search for her.
Kate is desperately trying to hold on to her 15 minutes, but I keep her relevant in my life.I have no one to blame but myself for actively seeking out this blog and participating in the discussion. I just don't understand anyone complaining about something they choose to involve themselves.
Sacre/cj get help. She never posted anything, that's a lie. I posted the link for anyone to read. She misunderstood a blurb about 40%, no big deal ita complicated to understand, but even when proven wrong is sticking to her story. Get help.
Support is not set in stone in pa. You can seek a modification as Jon did. However I had someone who had massive problems getting a change in Texas even though he had his kids!
Tweet she deletes anything that may allow you to see something differently than she is spinning it.
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Whine from me...WHY can't she be gone? I'm tired of her and her crap. I'm tired of her non-special kids being given attention they haven't earned. I'm sick of hearing her 'promote' Mady as the next child star. She doesn't have the talent, looks, personality, etc., to make it. Sorta kinda just like her mother-figure. And we all know it is HER wish for Mady to go into 'the business' and because Mady has done a 180 degree and now is HER toady to be in favor, she feeds into 'the desire for stardom' foisted on her.
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For 99% of the population, she IS gone. No morning shows, no voiceovers, no cameras, no microphones, no reality show and no magazine covers. Except for the occasional punch line and occasional blurbs in magazines planted by her PR person, the only way to know what she is up to is to actively search for her.
Kate is desperately trying to hold on to her 15 minutes, but I keep her relevant in my life.I have no one to blame but myself for actively seeking out this blog and participating in the discussion. I just don't understand anyone complaining about something they choose to involve themselves.
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Well said!! Couldn't agree more. No one is forcing any of us to read this blog or her tweets.
amyf, it would be laughable if Kate starts yammering on about wanting to qualify for the Boston Marathon.
My niece is running the marathon this coming Monday. She qualified with a time of 3 hrs 20 minutes. The official qualifying time for women ages 18-34 is 3 hrs 40 minutes and women ages 35-39 is 3 hrs 45 minutes. Kate can safely take this event off her bucket list.
I am very excited because we are traveling to Boston to see the marathon. If there is anyone reading here who is from, or is familiar with, the Boston area, I would appreciate any tips of places to eat or interesting places to see.
Thanks in advance.
Re:Nutri-grain. Of course it tastes good. Sugar is the second ingredient on the label. One serving with 1/2 cup skim milk as 16 grams of sugar. 16 grams. Add juice to that breakfast and BAM! (apologies to Emril)
Labels, read labels KG.
Pulling the wool#8 said
I don't know much about PA child support, but I do know two instances when physical residence changed over the summer months and the children lived with their father. He tried to get the support payments reduced, but couldn't. The payments remained the same as they were when they were first calculated. He had the kids for several months; she was still receiving the same weekly checks for supporting them when they weren't living with her.
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My kids go to their dads for 6 weeks in the summer, and child support is still paid. Reason being? My kid's sports expenses continue whether they are here or not, same as car payments, car insurance and cell phone bills and data packages. If HE had to pay all their expenses for the time he has them he would absolutely flip on how expensive kids are. He pays a FRACTION of what I spend on them. He has refused to pay ONE PENNY on cars, insurance, or college.
Face it, non-custodial parents have it easy financially.
Sacre Bleu! AKA Carolyne Pillutla AKA CJWhodunit, go take care of your 3 yr old twins & "tweenie". If you're going to have kids at 50, at least have the decency to take care of them.
Tamara said...I also think that Khate is only using what Jon is paying in child support and the 15% put aside to feed/clothe the kids. The rest is HER money in her mind.
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What Jon is paying for support and the fifteen percent put aside is NOT going to the bills that she acquires to live this lifestyle.
Call me crazy - Boston - I'm jealouw! So much to do/see. For a tourist, Legal Seafood. Clam chowder is very good.
Have a fabulous time. Good luck to your niece.
Sorry, OT for a minute. Franky do you mean the light white wine (7% I think) L'Oiseau Bleu. If so, congrats to your family, it's one of my favourites.
The tups do look quite thin, Mady and Cara are a bit more plump. I think the children are hungry most of the time and they're servings are never quite enough. It wouldn't matter what kind of cereal they were served, as long as their bowl is full, and it does not have to come from Australia to be filling.
My kids go to their dads for 6 weeks in the summer, and child support is still paid. Reason being? My kid's sports expenses continue whether they are here or not, same as car payments, car insurance and cell phone bills and data packages.
But your grocery bills go down, do they not? Is the gas consumption reduced because you are not acting as chauffeur? Why should a woman who is NOT taking care of children for three or four months still collect child support payments when clearly she is not supporting them during this time? The father is buying their food, he is giving them a place to live, he is providing their entertainment, he may be buying clothes for them. In short, he is responsible for their welfare during that time period. The ex-wife is collecting child support when she is not supporting the kids, and meanwhile the father is feeding them every day.
Flight of the Kiwi - Thanks so much for the information and good wishes!
What Jon is paying for support and the fifteen percent put aside is NOT going to the bills that she acquires to live this lifestyle.
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I know, I just said it is going to the bills the KIDS acquires to live their lifestyle.
As far as the issue of the kids money:
According to Paul Peterson and as verified by Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin's testimony at the child labor hearing, for a period of time, the kids were living on a television set and were filmed 24 hours a day--including their bedrooms and bathrooms. Why else would one of the twins put up that sign saying 'NO CAMERAS".
Don't think it was a television set? Then explain the studio lighting that was documented on the show, that neighbors said was so bright, it could be seen from space.
The Olsen twins started acting as babies' and were 0paid for every minute that they were filmed--whether used or not. Unlike the G8, their hours were limited and there were on set teachers that acted as their advocates, with complete control over the conditions.
Even if a case can be made for kate having earned here DWTS and book money, how can it be justified that the kids aren't entitled to a commensurate share--which would add up to 80% for kids and 20% for Jon and Kate. And, this is generous because J and K were not filmed 24/7. And, unlike child actors, J and K did not have to set their own careers aside--so no justification for diverting kids compensation to them--they turned the reality show into a career.
So, yes, the case can be made that the kids have supported the parents--Kate more than Jon, and I agree that the kids money is used for private school, food, housing and clothes.
I sincerely hope that Jon means it when he says that the money from his upcoming book will be put in kids trusts. It makes me sick to think that all of the kids earnings, at the expense of their childhood, may have been squandered by
their parents' greed and stupidity.
But your grocery bills go down, do they not? Is the gas consumption reduced because you are not acting as chauffeur? Why should a woman who is NOT taking care of children for three or four months still collect child support payments when clearly she is not supporting them during this time? The father is buying their food, he is giving them a place to live, he is providing their entertainment, he may be buying clothes for them. In short, he is responsible for their welfare during that time period. The ex-wife is collecting child support when she is not supporting the kids, and meanwhile the father is feeding them every day.
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I guess I don't have a house payment to put a roof over his kids' heads while they are gone? The kid's car payments and car insurance is still paid by me, and I save whatever food money is not being used to buy school clothes and school supplies.
Guess me a freakin' break. I have purchased 4 cars for his 4 kids, and put two through college, another is in college, and another is about to go next year and he never paid one damn dime for anything.
He gets off easy.
Give me a break please.
Is the Nutrigrain cereal organic? Because you know that Kate only eats organic. Never mind that it is loaded with sugar.
Why should a woman who is NOT taking care of children for three or four months still collect child support
And pull the wool, my kids are only gone 6 weeks. not three or four months.
Give me a freakin break. Oh my gawd.
Call me crazy, there are so many historic things in Boston and nearby. You could do one of those bus tours around the city. If you have a couple extra days, drive to Cape cod. I like the Edward gorey house museum. If no extra time, you can just drive over the bridge to hyannisport and stop st a restaurant for a lobster roll.
"My kids go to their dads for 6 weeks in the summer, and child support is still paid."
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So do you agree, then, if Jon is awarded more time with his children, Kate's support payments should remain the same whether she is "supporting" them during that time or not?
Baw-hahah I just googled Nutrigrain cereal to see what it looks like and this is what came up:
http://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/top-sellers-are-cereal-offenders/story-e6frg3pl-1225698670300
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Wait a sec. I thought Mom of the Millenium only fed her kids organic eggs laid by virgin chickens, pancakes ground from golden wheat of the heavens, 8 loaves of bread toasted in a miracoulously grifted toaster, fruits grown by the gods of organic trees and the creamy white liquid of lovingly milked cows that grazed on celestial pastures to be poured over organic cereal on the odd occasion.
Aw...was she lyin' again?
Crazy - have a blast! You can go to Faneuil Hall and eat your way right through :) Check out the North End. Historical sights abound. The Freedon Trail will take you through a lot of Boston. The USS Constitution has a tour of the ship. Also the Fine Arts Museum is wonderful. Congrats to your daughter & Enjoy!!
If Kate's case is that her income is now substantially reduced, I hope the Judge reminds her that as a nurse, she can and should return to her former profession. The Judge could also suggest she 'down-size' commensurate with the position she finds herself in.
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"My kids go to their dads for 6 weeks in the summer, and child support is still paid."
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So do you agree, then, if Jon is awarded more time with his children, Kate's support payments should remain the same whether she is "supporting" them during that time or not?
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Jon's child support obligation should be reduced to meet his custody time obligations. If the kids are with Kate or not, the house payment still has to be made, utilities, taxes, school tuition, etc. (of course she uses money the kids used, but she still has to make these payments. I don't agree how she does it, but her case isn't the point at the moment). If one of the kids should become sick, if their divorce papers read like most do, Kate is responsible for half the expenses.
I have a large family, I was awarded LESS than what the law required because he had more money and a better atty. He has never paid one red cent towards any of their four cars, nor one cent towards college (20,000 a year). I will have two in college next year, and still have car payments for the fourth kid now. I have two kids left at home as well.
Dont worry about the ex, he is a trust fund baby with several oil wells. Did I mention he just retired?
And if you think I get a large child support check, ah, nope. It's poverty level wage equivalent.
I feel like I am arguing with bitter step-mothers with no children of their own.
Auntie Ann 46...
"Aw... was she lyin' again?"
Hard to tell, Auntie, hard to tell :) snark
JoyinVirginia - Thanks! I would love to see the Edward Gorey museum. I had never heard of it and love his work. We won't be there long enough to get there this trip, but it is definitely going on my wish list for places to see.
Tess - Thank you for the suggestions. So much to see; so little time!
Ack - jealouw should have been jealous...I have gone through an entire can of canned air trying to unstick (is that a real word?) my darn backspace key, spacebar and enter key. Really throwing off my typing.
KG has Boston on her marathon bucket list for next year? She's got to shave more than 2 hours of her time in LV to qualify. I would think that would be very hard to accomplish.
I think the kids are going to love being at Jon's house. They will have so much fun in the woods, and they probably won't even mind the 3-bedroom situation. Kate herself said the 3 little girls wanted to sleep together in 1 room, and so did the 3 little boys. If Jon sleeps in the room with the boys, then the twins can have a room to themselves--same sleeping arrangement they have at their mom's house. Plus, they don't have to worry about cameras suddenly appearing. I don't believe for a second that a pap took those Easter pics--I think it was Kate who sold them. And I'm positive that the same thing will happen on the tups' birthday. She'll feel compelled to squeeze every dollar she can get out of those kids.
The best thing about the kids getting more time with Jon? He will feed them.
I just checked out that Nutrigrain cereal link, pretty awful looking stuff eh?
I was out grocery shopping just this morning and I was checking out different organic cereals and was SHOCKED at how much sugar is in them. One serving, which they say is 3/4 of a cup, yeah right, my son would eat at least 2 (if not 3) of their servings in the morning, had 16 GRAMS OF SUGAR?!?!?! I checked out about 6 boxes of organic cereal and this was the average! I couldn't believe it! Can you imagine sending your kid to school after they just had 30+ grams of sugar, those poor teachers!
I ended up buying good old Multigrain Cheerios, they had the lowest sugar (6 grams) and sodium levels per their 1 cup serving.
If Kate's case is that her income is now substantially reduced, I hope the Judge reminds her that as a nurse, she can and should return to her former profession.
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Yes, a judge will look at that. She can't take a job at McDonalds and claim that's all she is qualified to do, and therefore his support payments should increase because she and the kids need to maintain their current lifestyle.
This reminds me of the case of former NJ governor, Jim McGreevey whose wife, Dina, wanted an astronomical amount of alimony and support. She didn't get it. The judge ruled that her expenses were excessive when she complained that she could no longer shop at Nordstroms, but had to buy her daughter's clothing at The Gap. He said that she was not entitled to a lifestyle commensurate with that of the First Lady of New Jersey. She got child support but no alimony.
I would imagine that a judge would take a similar position in Kate's case. She is no longer entitled to the lifestyle she enjoyed during her years as a reality television star.
Pulling the Wool (34), on the support question, I was the one who said earlier that I believe Kate is only spending on food/clothing the equivalent of what Jon pays her. So if he's paying $1,000 per month, then she kicks in $1,000 for a total of $2,000. And she does her very best to stay within that budget.
As far as their school tuition goes, since it was specifically court-ordered that the 15% they earned could be spent on such expenses, I believe that is where it is coming from. As for the house payments and maintenance costs, I don't know whether Kate has attempted to use the children's money for these expenses, but I don't think she should be able to. SHE is the one who needs that house and that lifestyle--not the children.
I hasten to add, all of this is speculation. But based on what we know of Kate, would anyone be surprised at such an attitude? "They are OUR children, so I will spend on them what you spend on them and NO MORE." It means that she still has plenty of money to spend on herself and her travel, as long as she can prove in court that what is coming from her accounts matches what Jon puts in.
I don't know if this is a reasonable hypothesis or not. But I don't think a court would be able to order her to spend MORE than Jon based on the fact that she earned (past tense) a lot more, correct? In the end, I believe the only thing that matters to her is that her funds are protected, even if that means her children wear ill-fitting clothing and go without milk. And yes, I really DO believe she is this petty and this awful. Classic NPD.
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Pulling the Wool (34), on the support question, I was the one who said earlier that I believe Kate is only spending on food/clothing the equivalent of what Jon pays her. So if he's paying $1,000 per month, then she kicks in $1,000 for a total of $2,000. And she does her very best to stay within that budget.
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I think she isn't 'kicking in' anything else. It's what Jon pays and the 15%
I am a daily reader here, and haven't commented yet, mainly because there are so many here that are much smarter and wittier than I....but I need to comment on the child support/visitation subject.
My first comment is this: Yes, there are times when the non-custodial parent gets off easy financially, and there are times when the custodial parent does--please don't lump everyone together into these categories, as every situation is different.
Here in Illinois, the non-custodial parent must pay 20% of household income for one child, 25% for 2 (I don't know how it progresses from there, as I only have 2 step children)
We paid 25% of our income, plus all medical/dental insurance premiums, and half of all extra expenses (sports, school, college, orthodontics, whatever) to his ex wife. Yes, my income factored into the support payments after we got married.
Funny thing is, HER income did not factor in at all, and she makes a lot more than I do. Also, they agreed that the kids would be with us every other evening for dinner and every other weekend--this did not reduce his financial responsibility. Neither did having the kids during vacations--we still had to pay the full amount. She could use the money we gave her to take the kids on vacation; we had to save up MORE money to take them places ourselves. Sadly, she took them on vacation once in 16 years, and we took them every year.
Anyway, don't mean to ramble, just wanted to say please don't assume that the non-custodial parent is getting any kind of deal financially. And emotionally, my husband really paid the price--his ex alienated those kids against him all the while using his money to give them everything they desired.
We are done with all that now, and one of the kids has a good relationship with her dad--the other bought into the "daddy is a bad guy" hook, line, and sinker. It all depends on the child.
Kate will find this out the hard way, I imagine.
I feel like I am arguing with bitter step-mothers with no children of their own.
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If you're talking about me, nope, I have children of my own and am no stepmother.
I am not bitter, and am not arguing, only offering an example of a case that I think is not fair to the father. There are two sides to every support issue.
I have two friends (males) who have been through this, and I have watched them struggle with support payments, often going without for themselves because one wife insists that she should be paid while the kids are with him for nearly four months. He is feeding them, caring for them, taking them on vacation to the beach while she spends the support money on herself. He pays everything for the kids during the time they are with him. How is that fair? In my opinion, it's not, by any stretch of the imagination. Still he continues to pay the same amount of support as he did when the children were living with her full-time. He has tried to get it modified, but was turned down.
Nevertheless, he is happy with the time that the children get to live with him and wouldn't change any of that. Therefore, he just bites the bullet and keeps on paying her for child support during that time. Perhaps instead of "child support" it should be called adult support. Yes, utility bills, taxes, etc. must be paid, but if the child isn't there to benefit from them, then why should he pay support so his wife has electricity and cable?
Not every father is a dead-beat dad. There are those who take their support payments very seriously and pay through the nose and they don't complain when they know that the payments are going to take care of their kids. They do complain, however, when the money being paid is going to the ex-wife who uses it for tanning, manicures, expensive dinners with friends, and summer trips to the Cape.
Unfortunately, in PA, there is no support accountability law. She doesn't have to show where the money is going. He knows where it is going, and it's not to the kids because the kids are with him.
Gift of grab said... 182
Very interesting, NLAN, particularly the Kate part. I can't say it would surprise me. BTW, glad to see you posting here again.
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Thanks, gift of grab. For a couple of months, I was simply unable to keep up with all the comments here! I've been trying to stay caught up the last couple of weeks because there really are some very insightful comments that I hate to miss. I've always enjoyed reading your comments.
aggiemom said:
I feel like I am arguing with bitter step-mothers with no children of their own.
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Aggiemom, I was on both sides of the fence at one time. I was receiving CS and my husband was paying his ex-wife. I saw how the state took the full amount of CS out of his paycheck every week regardless of how many hours he worked (working in construction sometimes the hours varied). So he ended up taking a part-time job on top of his full time job to supplement. The amount never varied regardless of whether his daughter was here or there.
On the other hand, as a recipient of CS, it was good to know that I could budget and count on the same amount every week and even though it wasn't a lot, it still helped with living expenses although what kids cost to raise certainly was way more than I was receiving in CS.
I believe that CS should be based upon what the NCP can afford and still pay their own living expenses. I can't imagine having to pay CS for eight children. Wowee
Child support:
PA uses calculations on parental income and custody time. Jon I am sure is paying what the state has decreed. If his custody time has increased, then his child support to Kate should be decreased.
Yes, the kids need a roof over their heads. It's Kate's choice what TYPE of house they have and private schooling as well.
Jon pays his fair share, and if Kate doesn't like it, tough. She has to cough up the rest of what it takes to support the kids.
You can't get blood out of a turnip.
I am sure she has used the kids money to pay their school tuition, clothing, medical bills. Heck, she might even make the kids pay part of the mortgage, I wouldn't be surprised.
Kate's money is Kate's money, she has proven that time and time again. Thank God most mothers aren't like Kate. My kid's cars are ALL newer than mine, my clothing is laughable at best, and I am lucky to get my hair done twice a year (the rest of the year I cut it myself-doesn't look that great, but you do what you gotta do). And I have never had a manicure or pedicure.
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Call Me Crazy:
Tess said:
Crazy - have a blast! You can go to Faneuil Hall and eat your way right through :) Check out the North End. Historical sights abound. The Freedon Trail will take you through a lot of Boston. The USS Constitution has a tour of the ship. Also the Fine Arts Museum is wonderful. Congrats to your daughter & Enjoy!!
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Ditto- excellent answer. I would only add Fenway park, Science Museum, Museum of Fine Arts, picnic along the Charles River, Boston Common & Public Garden. So much to see/eat!/ and do...the weather is predicted to be 70 degrees and slightly cloudy, perfect for the Marathon. The public transit system is running a full schedule.
Enjoy it all.
"So do you agree, then, if Jon is awarded more time with his children, Kate's support payments should remain the same whether she is "supporting" them during that time or not?"
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Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I assume that the issues of custody and of visitation are two different things.....and that support payments are more related to custody than they are to visitation.
And that because the main custodial parent bears the burden of the basic needs of the child year-round, the support payment amounts are independent of the visitation periods and whatever the non-custodial parent pays for when the children are visiting.
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It's moms like you that I love to see get pampered once in a while! You give everything and keep doing so never having any guarantee of a "get away" vacation or spa days in NYC or regular mani/pedi, or a quickie trip to Vegas like Kate.
If Kate never had "the next get away me-time" planned, I think she'd lose it.
It reminds me of this great segment (once a week) on the Today Show where 2 women get picked out of the crowd for a makeover. So many times, it's a mom whose family begs them to take the pampering because all they do is give. It's really heartwarming and they look dynamite.
Kate can work at McDonald's flipping burger while Steve man's the fries.
Now that would be funny.
Call Me Crazy a fun Boston thing is to go to the real Cheers bar and the Cheers bar used for the show.
Auntie said --
Wait a sec. I thought Mom of the Millenium only fed her kids organic eggs laid by virgin chickens, pancakes ground from golden wheat of the heavens, 8 loaves of bread toasted in a miracoulously grifted toaster, fruits grown by the gods of organic trees and the creamy white liquid of lovingly milked cows that grazed on celestial pastures to be poured over organic cereal on the odd occasion.
Aw...was she lyin' again?
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Only about the virgin chickens. Some of them were seen fleeing the compound and were later spotted on the corner of Fifth and Penn streets in Reading, where other chicks of the evening gather at nightfall to earn some extra spending money.
If I offended anyone, I apologize. Sometimes the written word doesn't reflect someone's point they are trying to put across.
I use EVERY PENNY of child support I receive and place it towards my mortgage. It also takes 200 more out of my pocket to make that monthly payment.
When it's time to sell the house, my children will receive ALL proceeds from the sale of the house. So in a sense, not only did they have a roof over their heads while growing up, they will have a nice inheritance one of these days.
Some might say well, you shouldn't have had so many kids...well, I can't go back and change it. Also, the ex was determined to produce the male heir to take over the ranch/farm/cattle/oil family business. Well, I kept having girls,so that male heir never happened.
aggiemom09121416 said... 49
am arguing with bitter step-mothers with no children of their own.
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The only person who sounds bitter here is you.
Aggie said....Some might say well, you shouldn't have had so many kids...well, I can't go back and change it.
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Ask "some" which of your daughters should not be alive. Go on, pick out the mistakes.
That'll stop "some".
It sounds like one of my coworkers has it easy when it comes to child support. When he and his wife divorced, they agreed that he would pay for his daughters rodeo hobby for child support. This includes care for the hors, housing the horse, vet bills, entrance fees, ridding lessons, clothing, transportation, exc. They get together once a year with a moderator. They decided on which rodeos the girl will do, they discuss which tack needs to be replaced, what clothes need to be purchased exc. My coworker probably pays more then the court would have required, but, all of his money is going to something his daughter loves. Its an agreeable situation for both of them. They both go to the rodeos and their daughter can see that the parents are woking on becoming friends. It is probably hard for the parents at times, but, they both want to be there for the girl.
Once a Viewer - Thank you. I am adding your suggestions to my list. We will definitely get to see the Charles River because our hotel is situated very close to it. We are also looking forward to seeing Fenway, at least from the outside.
NJGal51 - When I told my adult daughter we were going to Boston, the first thing she said was "Are you going to the Cheers bar?" HA. That would be fun. I am such a sucker for some of the typical touristy stuff.
I hope we can fit some of these things in on Sunday. On Monday, we will be hanging out for a couple of hours on Commonwealth Avenue for the Heartbreak Hill portion of the Marathon near Boston College. It is the last hill of the
make-or-break portion of the course around miles 16 to 21. I am really excited to see it.
Thanks again, everyone.
Moose Mania said ...
Only about the virgin chickens. Some of them were seen fleeing the compound and were later spotted on the corner of Fifth and Penn streets in Reading, where other chicks of the evening gather at nightfall to earn some extra spending money.
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You and AuntieAnn are hilarious. Are those chickens of the evening wearing little aluminum foil dresses?
Call Me Crazy, go on a duck tour. They are so much fun. I have done the boston one and the DC one. I even got to drive it on the water. I suggest skipping the cheers bar. Its too full of tourists. The Green Dragon pub is a great place to go. Their food servings are generous and at a great price.
Fidosmommy said... 71
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thank you! :)
and to the other poster, no, I am not bitter. Like I said, sometimes the written word does not come across like it was inferred.
Maybe I am just pissed. lol
Moose Mania said ... 68
Only about the virgin chickens. Some of them were seen fleeing the compound and were later spotted on the corner of Fifth and Penn streets in Reading, where other chicks of the evening gather at nightfall to earn some extra spending money.
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Bwahaha haha Moose!
Kate's new hit reality show- Pimpin' my Cluckers.
My motto on way home EVERYDAY: 'routine, chickens, dinner, chores, homework, showers then bed. Time to play if you hurry!' :) play..repeat.. less than a minute ago
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sounds like the kids are busy ALL DAY LONG. Why can't Kate take care of the chickens? And what chores do they have? All she does is go for runs all day, why can't she do the chores? dang, woman!
@DogTBHohanafan lol 'one'? I only have one babysitter&position taken now I'm afraid! But thanks for kind offer:)! about 7 hours ago
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Kate should have gotten this gal's info. If history is any indication, her current "sitter" will not know how to help her in about six weeks.
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@TamiCassidy I just block them. To me, they don't even exist ;) my rule: ignore annoying ppl in life- you'll succeed, they'll crumble :)
Whaaaaaat!! Three twatter wars in a month and using her CC column for a bitchy rebuttal to Tony D.- NOT ignoring ANYTHING has been her downfall. Why, why, why, why does she constantly say one thing while doing the opposite at the very same time? Like the crumbling thing..... bitch, the only person crumbling is you, we're all doing quite well thank you.
Call Me Crazy said...
You and AuntieAnn are hilarious. Are those chickens of the evening wearing little aluminum foil dresses?
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Not sure about the tinfoil dresses, but they have one HECK of a good bra. ;)
No new cruise tweets from Cindy today. I wonder why.
Those poor kids. What do they have to look forward to in life - the next holiday? Think that might be Christmas.
Aggiemom, I dont think you come off as bitter The child support system is messed up on all levels. And all it hurts are the kids.
To Not A Sheeple....Im just going to say it. I think you are a sheep. Every other post you put up is either bashing Jon or obsessing over the twitter haters posts. And yes obsessing. You know what they write and WHEN they write. Just let it go already. You dont like them..OK! But you are making yourself sound a little nuts by constantly bringing it up!
Not sure about the tinfoil dresses, but they have one HECK of a good bra. ;)
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They also have one heck of a time getting those long toenails into the hooker heels.
Her latest tweet confirms what I've suspected for a long time. Those kids have no time to play:
My motto on way home EVERYDAY: 'routine, chickens, dinner, chores, homework, showers then bed. Time to play if you hurry!' :) play..repeat.
How is routine different from chores? Wonder what routine is? Stand in a circle showering praise on mommy for an hour before you are allowed to slop the chickens then get your tiny dinner?
I think it's sad when kids have no time to be kids. And looking at that schedule, they wouldn't have time to be involved in sports or other activities even if she stopped being so lazy and self-involved and took them.
Well, it is two pacific time and court is over...did any one hear what transpired? As far as child support is concerned, I never knew a person who paid support regret the payment after the fact...yes, they b&^%$hedand moaned while paying. The most important thing in life is your child, when you breath your last breath, that money is meaningless.
Sherri O and Moose: hilarious!! :)
Going Down:
Yes, she sure badgers them...they must know by now, work and no play..the tups are only 7, almost 8. A child learns by playing. She is stunting their growth. That chore chart is smack dab in the front of the fridge. I really can't think what she would make them do after a long day of school. Maybe chickens/Shoka, ok. But what else? The twins load the dishes, ok. But do they have housework? Outdoor chores? Their bedrooms are unoccupied all day so they can't be messy..??? Maybe she's exaggerating as she did with their hours of homework and need for a laptop each...
Ah ha, I know what the "routine" is. The kids have to put on a mini-musical upon arrival home extolling how great and unwrinkled Kate is!
Thats not a Motto, thats a to do list! Now we know who her housekeepers are...
kateplusmy8
My motto on way home EVERYDAY: 'routine, chickens, dinner, chores, homework, showers then bed. Time to play if you hurry!' :) play..repeat..
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Life at Fort Gosselin sounds very structured... and void of joy.
Leave it to Kate to suck the life out of every day.
Not fast enough? Tough luck, kids.
Too bad that life is full of variables....
A motto is : A short sentence or phrase chosen as encapsulating the beliefs or ideals guiding an individual, family, or institution.
Wow, deep Kate!!!
Are you encapsulating that you live a mediocre life like the rest of us..oh no how horrible, but truth is being told..ha ha.. " Play, repeat" ( Actually I believe the saying, or to use your words " Motto" is rinse, lather, repeat!
My motto on way home EVERYDAY: 'routine, chickens, dinner, chores, homework, showers then bed. Time to play if you hurry!' :) play..repeat..
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Kid's motto on the way home EVERYDAY: placate mommie, ignore mommie, push blame onto male sibling, wish I was at dad's, hide from mommie, go to bed. Play? What the hell is that?
Would someone please tweet this twit the definition of motto. Or remind her that her motto is "ME ME MEEEEE!!!"
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 5
Children's cereals Nutri-Grain, Milo under unhealthy fire | Perth Now
SOME popular children's breakfast cereals have more sugar content than iced doughnuts and about the same amount of salt as potato chips.
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TOOOO funny. Can anything be more coincedental and yet spot on. Ok, now I have to go get one of my moms dipers.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
My motto on way home EVERYDAY: 'routine, chickens, dinner, chores, homework, showers then bed. Time to play if you hurry!' :) play..repeat
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I bet the kids can't wait till they get old enough to get away from her.
Speaking of mottos, whatever happened to that
Gosselin Family thing they made up early in the series? We will treat each other kindly, we will love one another forever, etc? It was very important to Kate to have it and have it read on TV. What was that thing called? Anyway, it would be interesting to see it again.
Bring it out, Kate! Let's see how well you've done with it.
wayward said... 79
@TamiCassidy I just block them. To me, they don't even exist ;) my rule: ignore annoying ppl in life- you'll succeed, they'll crumble :)
Whaaaaaat!! Three twatter wars in a month and using her CC column for a bitchy rebuttal to Tony D.- NOT ignoring ANYTHING has been her downfall. Why, why, why, why does she constantly say one thing while doing the opposite at the very same time? Like the crumbling thing..... bitch, the only person crumbling is you, we're all doing quite well thank you.
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Good points. I just want to add that if Khate blocks them, they don't even exist, she ignores them, then what about her tweet from the other day:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@TrippenIn awesome! Can't wait for the rest to go!!!
10:17 PM - 9 Apr 12 via Twitterrific
That was Khate's reply when a sheeple tweeted her that it looked like a non-fan's account had been suspended (it wasn't, though).
Hmm, Kate, if you "ignore them" and "they don't even exist" then WHY did you reply that it was "awesome!" and you can't wait for the rest of the non-fans accounts to go?
She's just a lying liar who lies.
Hmm, Kate, if you "ignore them" and "they don't even exist" then WHY did you reply that it was "awesome!" and you can't wait for the rest of the non-fans accounts to go?
She's just a lying liar who lies.
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And how did she know that 90% of the people who knew about her 'hated' her back when she was the belle of the DWTS ball?
Oh by the way Kate, that number has risen to 99.7% now, in case you missed it.
Bye, Kate!
And let's not forget that they will shortly have tending to the ORGANIC vegetable garden to add to their list of "chores."
Just FMI, aren't all homegrown vegetables "organic"? I mean, no one's really buying commercial pesticides or using cloned seeds the their back yards, correct?
Does this idiot mean "mantra" instead of "motto"?
And if she does, WTH does the word "routine" doing in that sentence?
Too bad SHE didn't get a decent education. I guess it's just problem #5,001 with being an unteachable egotist.
Nobody Likes a Narcissist (NLAN) said... She's just a lying liar who lies.
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Uh, yeah...that's it, said simply, said perfectly, said beautifully.
There is no joy in that household. Sure, she has to keep 8 kids on track, but what the heck does she do all day? I am not a parent, but I would first give them a snack after school, homework, then free time to PLAY.
Who's idea was it have chickens? Did the kids ask for them? In any case, could she not deal with the chickens during the day?
Chores for these kids after school should be around dinner time, clearing the table etc. But, I bet the minute they are through the door she marches them straight over to the chore list on the fridge, and the drudgery begins.
I remain convinced that she finds having 8 children a huge inconvenience when they are not producing something, a pay check, a chore, another chance at fame.
They must feel like such a burden to her, except when she uses them (Easter Sunday) to show her few followers what a generous, giving, mother she is. She is transparent, mean-spirited and only seems truly happy when she is away from home with Steve.
AuntieAnn said... 96
And how did she know that 90% of the people who knew about her 'hated' her back when she was the belle of the DWTS ball?
Oh by the way Kate, that number has risen to 99.7% now, in case you missed it.
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Auntie Ann, I like you, I really, really do, but you are SUCH a conservative! :)
Bye, Kate!
That was Khate's reply when a sheeple tweeted her that it looked like a non-fan's account had been suspended (it wasn't, though).
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Speaking of being suspended. How does that work? BigFan's account was suspended, but she was right back on there with another name. If that's possible, then suspending an account doesn't really mean anything, does it?
Kate, here are a couple of hints why you'll never have your own TV interview show; "supersede" and "motto." Words have meanings.
I think I'm finally caught up on the posts for the last few days. Hope everyone had a great w/e, celebrating whatever you celebrate, and family and friends galore. Just a few comments.
Just for grins and giggles, I checked out a popular, and disparaged, cereal when I was at the grocery store this afternoon, just to see how it compared to Nutrigrain. I checked out Froot Loops -- 12 grams of sugar per serving (1 cup) with 1/2 cup of skim milk. Also has 3 grams of fiber. Not great, but certainly better than Nutrigrain! Probably a heck of a lot less expensive, too.
Re KK's daily mantra -- I know I have no children, at least not of the human kind, but I'm of the opinion that kids shouldn't have chores, or at least, should have minimal chores, on school days -- set or clear table, maybe feed pets, pick up their room a bit -- but most chores should be left for the w/e, especially for 7 year olds. Kids have so much homework these days, and when they don't get home from school until 4 PM, or later, and their bedtime is 7:30 or 8, they have no time to BE KIDS! As someone upthread said, KK is stunting their growth. Those kids are so regimented as it is, no wonder some of them had difficulty adjusting to school.
I was really interested in the earlier discussion/speculation about one or more of the kids being medicated. I'm no expert, but I have taught Special Ed. and I currently am a classroom volunteer working with children with learning problems. Just based on some observations of behaviors shown on episodes of J&K + 8 (I never watched any of K + 8), at least one of the kids, and possibly a couple more, exhibited some worrying behaviors. They may not have problems, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do.
Oh, geez -- here we go again! I've never seen anything like this...
amycatherinedes
@Kateplusmy8 Hi Kate. I am a jewelry designer and have a darling tween line. Would love to send your girls some fun pieces!
aggiemom, I hope you take some time for yourself each week. Even something as simple as a bubble bath can help relieve stress. If you dont have some already, invest in some nice bubble bath, candles and lotion. Make it a priority to do one nice thing for yourself each week. You deserve at least one hour of me time each week.
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I guess Kate's plan is working by showing off Mady and commenting on how much the twins like clothes shopping at Old Navy...I bet she agrees. Who is she to say no?
Andrea 106:
I agree with you re: Aggiemom- you deserve a little pampering. Even a little time to yourself to read, take a walk, listen to music. You've been a terrific mom to your kids.
Has anybody looked at CJs twitter feed lately? She's losing her mind.
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There is no joy in that household. Sure, she has to keep 8 kids on track, but what the heck does she do all day? I am not a parent, but I would first give them a snack after school, homework, then free time to PLAY
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I agree with Jumping In. And I AM a parent. I work all day and my evenings are BUSY and Full but I would never ask my kids to follow Kate's schedule on a school day.
Kids need some time after school to unwind and just be kids. They need time to run around and play. Ride a bike. Play with friends (if Kate would ever invite some over).
And school work should always be a priority before chores on a school night.
And they need time for sports, clubs, and other after school activities.
It just amazes me that Kate makes the kids follow that schedule when she is home ALL day with no job and still has hired help to clean and do laundry and a Nanny who cares for the kids.
What DO YOU DO ALL DAY KATE??
Looks like the only instructured time these kids get is on the bus rides and school recess. She really does suck the lifeblood out of eveything. And yet she seems to have completely unstructured free time, absent a JOB, each and very day.
Her tweets, and her currently mediocre life, all a real yawn. And nothing on the horizon until her Ozarks trip, or so it seems.
"play if you hurry?' What kind of advice is that, to rush through your homework carelessly, wolf down dinner, take half-assed care of the animals, skip good hygiene, just get wet to fool mom, so you can play?? I agree, they should have some built-in playtime and cut down on chores.
Moto (mantra)/supersedes (surpasses). WTH they're only words and her sheeple are just as dumb as she is so they won’t know the difference. What makes it so funny is that Kate claims that English was her best subject. If English was the best I'd hate to see the worst!
Luke's Mom, there have been studies showing that kids are being harmed by not having enough unstructured free time. Schools are cutting recess, and parents are micromanaging their children's schedule. This is one of the causes of childhood obesity and depression. Children process the world around them through play. Most exports are now saying that children need at least 90 min of unstructured outside play each day and some inside unstructured play.
Andrea and Once a Viewer.
Thanks for the encouraging words. Who doesn't have stress?? lol
Nah, I'm okay..ya know, it's funny, being raised by a parent who took care of her needs first, I just cannot do stuff for myself. I don't know if it's due to self esteem issues or just a repulsion of doing something for myself instead of my kids.
Ya'll didn't know I had so many problems, huh?
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(I sometimes share too much here...I'm going to blame it on hormones!)
Kate has her kids' after school time as regimented as she had Jon's weekends. She doesn't want to see anyone enjoying themselves. I wonder if she has a white plastic chair in the living room that she sits in while she gives orders to the kids after school?
aggiemom, how about doing mani/pedis with your daughters (if you have girls)? You could all bond and have fun painting each others nails. You would still be doing something relaxing.
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Kids need some time after school to unwind and just be kids. They need time to run around and play. Ride a bike. Play with friends (if Kate would ever invite some over).
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Their friends are kids at school, most of whom live an hour away. It's not possible on school days to have classmates over to play. The logistics just don't work. It's not like "back in the day" when we were young and we walked home from school, stopping at our friend's house to play, maybe eating supper there before we finally made our way home.
What they could do is stay for ASP at school, taking the late bus home. That way they would have two full hours of play with the other kids who stay. Of course, Kate would have to pay a nominal fee for that, and she'd never do it. Kids would love it, though.
Kate does have a late bus pick up once or twice a week. Figured it was for twins' after school activities.
I seriously doubt the queen of mean ever sets foot in the chicken coop. That's the "icky" boys job. And since they eat off paper plates all the time, the girls probably only load the dishwasher with forks and knives. I don't have a problem with kids doing a few chores during the week, but I can only imagine how REGIMENTED their home life is. This is who Kate is.
As far as those Easter photos go, I do think the boys are skinny. Nothing wrong with not allowing your kids to pig out on junk food, but Kate is the other extreme. Should be an interesting time when those kids turn into teenagers. Talk about giving mommy dearest the finger! Not a psychologist, but a controlling mother causes major issues with their children.
Admin~ I am new here and wanted to say that I enjoy reading here. Mostly everyone has respect for each other and I admire you for that. Kate must be blind if thousands of people see her for what she really is.
I think the kids get to play but did it ever occur to you that Kate hangs on to the McMansion because of the isolation? She controls everything. No playmates after school, probably none on the weekends. All those kids really have are each other. I grew up with a cold fish mother and I did not know any better until I was in high school and hung out at other friends' houses. That was when I was around warm, loving families and understood that it wasn't me, it was her. I feel bad for them. In fact, I kind of adopted my best friend's mom. I hope there will be someone in their lives who will open their arms to them as a good mother figure. It's never too late but it does leave emotional scars. This is why I get so angry when she plays the super mom role. It's a lie.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
My motto on way home EVERYDAY: 'routine, chickens, dinner, chores, homework, showers then bed. Time to play if you hurry!' :) play..repeat..
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What a boring life they have with their mother.
Just like adults kids need to relax and have fun sometimes.
Working all the time isn't healthy for anyone.
Count me in as a big believer in the unstructer play studies.
It is NO excuse the school is far away. If it's so far away choose a closer school.
In any case, school play need not be with classmates. It could be with neighbor kids, siblings, or heaven forbid with their mother. Or even by themselves.
I don't think anyone expects most families to have time to invite school classmates over during the school week, normally. It is no excuse for not letting kids relax and play each day.
Just like when filming was going on, these kids are overscheduled, spend far too much time on the bus, are far too away from their friend-base, and don't appear to be allowed to just be children once in awhile.
Andrea - 113
I have read some of those studies and agree. There needs to be a balance in our children's lives. Free time and play are so important in their development and academic achievement.
And having time with friends and activities too!
Another post mentioned how Kate needs to have the kids always working for her. And now with no show, she seems to fill their day with work for her. Take care of the chickens, give me a massage, watch me run, stock the shelves, ...
Welcome, KateIsBlind! Glad to have you!
TLC stinks said... 121
I think the kids get to play but did it ever occur to you that Kate hangs on to the McMansion because of the isolation?
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Yes!
I realize today isn't like when I grew up in a neighborhood where the first order of business after school was getting the hell out of my uniform and seeing who was out playing, or knocking on a friend's door.
I was out until Mom called me in for dinner. Well, not every day, but...
Can you imagine even if Kate chose a house in a neighborhood vs. isolated on a compound, knocking on her door and saying "hey, can the boys come out to play?"
Uh, no. Penalty of severeness and all that.
Andrea #116,
The mani/pedi thing isn't in my budget, but I don't think I'd like anyone messing with my feet! lol You are very sweet to offer that suggestion though, its very kind of you.
Yes, I have all daughters. And what we do best is talk. We talk. A LOT.
It's so fun when all are here (except the older one now, she is married and living in another state), we hole up in a room and talk for hours, sometimes into the early morning hours.
My hubby will come home from work, and he says he can hear a 'dull roar' coming from upstairs...and it's us, lol. He says we all talk at the same time and we can all follow what everyone is saying at the same time. He calls it a 'hen party'.
We just love being together, doesn't have to cost a penny, but it's priceless all the same.
I am blessed.
My ex can have all the money in the world. I will take the stuff that truly matters. :)
The children don't seem to have any down time. Their lives are over structured - by their mother.
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I see Kate had no problem letting the kids play for the cameras.
I really hope that Jon gets the kids more so they can at least be normal kids while their with him.
I am sure she has them recite that in unison. I noticed that chore chart was extensive. It would take a while for the little ones to even read it. She thinks it is oh so funny when she gets to play mean mommy, and that she is to be patted and congratulated. And to imagine that her little handful actually do that. Those poor pitiful little kids - I feel so sorry for them. Several people have commented about them looking gaunt and that there was just something a bit off about those Easter pics she put up. I looked at them and there is no spark in their eyes. They are empty, completely empty. They all had that spark at one time and that is a part of what endeared them to people. None of them do anymore.
When I was receiving child support in Ohio, everything was clearly stated. "It costs $XX to support the children, Father will be responsible for xx% and Mother will be responsible for xx%. It was very clear how much the main custodial parent was responsible for.
Since Kate is choosing not to work, would that change her court ordered responsibility to the couple's children? I wouldnt think so, but is it safe to 'assume' she has shown the court she has enough set aside to provide her share of their monthly/yearly expenses?
Despite what some may think, it is a shared road. The days of the mother living long and fine on alimony and child support while the entire responsibility rests on the male parent are going going gone.
NLAN - welcome back. Good to see you again.
Tuckers mom#26.
Can you imagine even if Kate chose a house in a neighborhood vs. isolated on a compound, knocking on her door and saying "hey, can the boys come out to play?"
Uh, no. Penalty of severeness and all that.
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lol, still laughing. You have a great wit. lol
My kids were never allowed play dates on a school night, but weekends were a anything-goes.
My kids's chores are minimal...keep your rooms somewhat clean so the board of health doesn't show up, put away their own laundry and make their own school lunch, but most importantly, they had to give 110% effort concerning school work. And I always made my older kids help the younger ones with math, lol. I didn't like geometry a long time ago, and I still don't. Didn't like trig either, and don't even ask me about Calculus!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 123
Just like when filming was going on, these kids are overscheduled, spend far too much time on the bus, are far too away from their friend-base, and don't appear to be allowed to just be children once in awhile.
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That's your POV and practically everyone else's here. But that's not what those kids were bred for. They were doomed from birth to be her puppets. Just give them a few more years and all hell is going to break loose for that woman. The harder she tries to control them the worse it's going to be in the long run. One or two might stay behind and do as she orders to get the attention that Kate didn't give them. But as for the rest - look out. They'll be doing do what their dad did when he was finally freed from the konpound and that's everything they missed out on.
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JudyK said... 101
Auntie Ann, I like you, I really, really do, but you are SUCH a conservative! :)
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Dang it Judy you're right. She just dumped Gypsi. Make that 99.8%. ha!
Gift of grab said... 192
Yes, milo, Kate knows EXACTLY how these things go (LOL):
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Well, Kate...U know how these things go. U may end up w/100 plus boxes of Nutrigrain now! Ur loyal well-meaning fans! LOL
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I think this is exactly what Kate was hoping for. She has at least 2 sheeple who will do her bidding no matter what. And not in a good way.
Sorry if this has been addressed. I hope the twins don't get seasick. Remember the buckets and the vomiting on the fishing trip at sea a few years ago? Of course, that would be the PERFECT excuse not to appear when scheduled for all three of them mmmmmm.....??
aggiemom09121416 said... 127
I am happy to hear that you still get lots of time with your daughters.
Dwindle, I dont think that the judge will increase Jons child support because Kate chooses not to work. She has 9 hours each day where she could work outside the home and bring in an income. There are lots of jobs that she could get. If Kate brings this to court, then I hope that the judge will tell her to get a job outside the home while the kids are at school.
"They'll be doing do what their dad did "
I'll bet you're asking ...What the hell is that supposed to mean?
"They'll be doing what their dad did" ... is what I meant to say.
I don't think anyone expects most families to have time to invite school classmates over during the school week, normally. It is no excuse for not letting kids relax and play each day.
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I was responding to the comment about having the kids play with their friends after school, explaining why that isn't possible because their friends ARE their classmates. If it's a big deal for them not to play with their friends, then they should move closer to the school where they can be involved in after-school play with their friends.
"Kate does have a late bus pick up once or twice a week. Figured it was for twins' after school activities."
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Yes, FREE activities such as sports, clubs, music, plays. There is a charge, though, for after-school care, and there is no way that she would pay for eight kids in ASP, even though they'd most likely enjoy it once or twice a week.
Kids should be able to relax and play each day. Here's the thing -- Kate expects the kids to help her, do chores, feed the chickens, give her a massage, present a play for her because there are no adults or friends in HER life. Her only interaction with anyone is with her kids and on twitter. When she's not home, with Steve, at functions, she doesn't tweet because she has adult company. It must be sad for her not to have anyone in her life other than her children (and Steve), but hey, she did it to herself.
Imagine what it must be like to be home alone all day by yourself, and then the kids come home, and their needs are taken care of -- dinner, homework, showers. Imagine having no adult conversation throughout the day, and no adult at night with whom to discuss the events of the day.
I don't think that she does know how to play with her children. She just seems incapable of having any mother-child interaction with them. It's like they never bonded. It's really quite sad when you think about it.
Every situation is different and there are two sides to every story. I agree with reducing a parent's child support based on custodial time, as PA and many states do it. Other states don't follow the custodial time theory of child support and base it more on general expenses and what your income is. PA doesn't just base it on that. When you don't have the kids the truth is many expenses go down. Groceries, utilities, gas money shuttling them around. Some expenses remain like health insurance (which in Kate and Jon's case is probably paid by Jon anyway through work) but not all expenses. Yes mortgage or rent is still due but the other parent still has to pay mortgage or rent so what's the difference. Both Mom and Dad have to pay a mortgage for a house for the kids when they are with them whether you have them five days or fifty or 250.
Pity Party, You put into words EXACTLY what I've been thinking! I'm also so afraid that she uses food as punishment, sending them to bed without supper.
Those kids were healthy looking before the divorce. It seems they have lost weight at the same speed as their Mother. When Kate made an April Fool's joke about there being no dinner she seemed to think that was hilariously funny.
I agree their spark is gone, those poor kids probably walk on eggshells every moment they are home with her. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about it. Hopefully they tell Jon the truth about how hard Kate is on them & he's taking notes. Her twitter alone is proof of her sick mind.
Anonymous Today can you stick to the name you normally use? Thanks.
I wonder when the kids are feeding chickens, etc., does Kate go with them to help? What a wonderful family activity to all work together to get the chores done. I loved helping my mom with dinner and setting the table or cleaning up after, sometimes the best conversations happen when four hands are making the work of two easier.
I get the feeling, based on her tweets, that's not what happens at all. She banishes the kids to the chicken coops so she can tweet away with her psycho fans. Gypsi excluded not you Gypsi!
Despite what some may think, it is a shared road. The days of the mother living long and fine on alimony and child support while the entire responsibility rests on the male parent are going going gone.
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Yes. I wish Kate could be in front of my friend's wife who is a judge. She won't stand for whining. Kate would be mince meat in front of her.
Her favorite words: Blah, blah GET A JOB.
Okay she doesn't say blah blah but it's what she thinks!
Yes Kate meant MANTRA not motto. LOL.
Isn't that a word for when you confuse one word for another similar word? English majors out there?
No not dumbass, though that too.
Because it bears repeating, there was a tabloid article that came out ages ago whining because when the kids are with Jon all they do is veg out on the couch watching T.V.
Assuming it's true, even at the time it was obvious how over scheduled and exhausted the kids were between school and filming and makeup work when filming. And I remember so many of the sheeple were saying what a horrible dad they are.
However over here we were saying, maybe you need to get a clue when all kids want to do is veg out. Poor things are probably exhausted, no wonder they just collapse on Jon's couch. It's funny how the sheeple spun it to make Jon look like a bad parent when really all it did was make Kate look like a stage mom overworking her kids.
I was just thinking...on the day or days that the twins have after-school activities, why not let the six stay for two hours for the after-school program, which would get them all home at the same time? They'd have play time with their friends. It wouldn't be every day. She bitches about two bus stop pick-ups. That would solve that problem!
Oh speaking of studies, there are also numerous studies talking about the negative effects of long bus or car rides to school including a child's academics and emotional health.
There are same studies for adults about long commutes. If a long commute for an adult shortens their life, why wouldn't it a child's or be even worse on little ones? Simple logic.
Kate's batting 1,000 here.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 194
The Australia trip was a year ago. Is it just me or is hanging onto a box of cereal for a year just well, gross?
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Great point Admin. More is always better as long as someone else (TLC) is paying for it.
When it come to the kids, she cuts corners left and right. When it comes to her, same principle does not apply. SHE is the STAR, after all.
Kate is a person who still thinks the world owes her, using her kids as an exuse for her twisted reasoning, if you could call it that. "She" has 8, Count 'Em, 8 kids to support. Far worse off than anyone else ever could have it. Her mantra for grifting from Day One. NPD sucks.
There are a lot of sites ( maybe amazon too) where you can order foods from other countries (UK has a few sites for example) If they really can' do without Vegemite or Nutrigrain Kate can order on-line. I admit we order a few items we can't get here from Canada or UK from amazon as a treat As a CC blog expert Kate should know this!.
It's funny how the sheeple spun it to make Jon look like a bad parent when really all it did was make Kate look like a stage mom overworking her kids
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The sheeple spin anything any way they want it. Sometimes they do a half-decent job with it; other times it makes no sense whatsoever and really is quite amusing how their minds work (or don't work)!
Children's cereals Nutri-Grain, Milo under unhealthy fire | Perth Now
SOME popular children's breakfast cereals have more sugar content than iced doughnuts and about the same amount of salt as potato chips.
www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/top-sellers-are-cereal-offenders/...
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TOOOO funny. Can anything be more coincedental and yet spot on. Ok, now I have to go get one of my moms dipers.
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LOL at first I was confused what you meant. I didn't initially see that MILO was "under fire" too!
Hahahahha it is quite a coincidence huh?
Is it just me? Or did anyone else find it kind of...weird...that Kate's tweet just appeared out of nowhere, so to speak...
It wasn't in answer to anyone else, and it was just a weird thing to tweet.
So, she grabs her 9,232,521st iPhone and decides to tweet, and THAT is what she tweets?
I almost think she was tweeting that because she was proud of herself for having this...motto...and how it makes her such a super, organized mom.
Extremely delusional, imo.
Hmmmm....
kategetsnada @kategetsnada
@kateplusmy8 CS hearing reveals Kate gets no CS. visitation is 50/50 now. Kates done.
Anonymous Today can you stick to the name you normally use? Thanks.
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I'm very sorry. Since I have a connection to the school community, I'd prefer not to, and so I won't post anymore. I apologize. No snark intended.
I am a child of the 50's. My parents were nice, but never that interested in their kids. We had everything, a beautiful home in a great neighborhood, but we basically raised ourselves. There was no neglect, just an indifference in them we knew existed. As a result, we were self-starters, inventive and managed our own upbringing. If any of you watch Mad Men, that was the era, and those were the parents we experienced. It was the time when children were to be "seen and not heard".
My parents may not have been perfect, but they were consistent. They didn't pretend to be something they were not. Kate does these over-the-top affairs (such as Easter) for show, and her kids know that, even at a young age. They know their mother feels burdened by them one day, then showers them with goodies the next, to promote herself as mother extraordinaire. They know they are being used.
When you live in dysfunction of any kind, you look outward to friends and relatives to find comfort in them. These Gosselin children are at home, or stuck on a school bus for the best part of their young lives it seems. They have no outlet, other than their father, but they need to play with someone other than each other. Their vision of life is currently being viewed through a very distorted prism, the one their mother has created for them. Without an outside outlet, these children will not have any tools, other than how to handle and attend to their narcissistic mother.
Admin,
It might be worth looking into how the girls on Dance Moms are compensated for their time on the show. I heard a rumor that the girls cant get paid because, then, they would be considered professional dancers. This would make them ineligible for the competitions. I hope a trust is set aside for each of the girls.
#145, I think the problem for Kate re the ASP might be that those two hours would be unstructured enough to allow conversation to flow freely. I don't think Kate wants the tups spending too much time with other kids just "hanging out," so to speak. She would have no idea how much these other children may know about her kids and their situation, and kids DO talk. I think she's probably a bit more relaxed about the twins on this front, if only because they already understand the boundary between what may or may not be discussed about "the family" in public. We certainly saw this with Mady's couch appearances near the end of the show--she was a virtual Kate-parrot, right down to exact turns of a phrase. I had one pretty repressive parent growing up, and all of us (6 kids) learned quite early that certain things were not to be shared. If for no other reason than that they would be embarrassing for us.
I doubt she has set foot in that barn since the time she was grunting with every blow of the hammer like she was wielding a sledgehammer to "build" a supposed door. She says she has a designated girl "boss" (which is a kind word for tattle tail) to go with the boys, I can only presume since girls don't do icky boy work and that way it gets done better. If she does go it more than likely is only so she can find something worthy of punishment of severeness when she is on a rampage.
Can you pick something other than Anonymous Today or is how you always post? I'm confused.
I just want you to stick to a name that doesn't have anonymous in it.
My parents may not have been perfect, but they were consistent. They didn't pretend to be something they were not. Kate does these over-the-top affairs (such as Easter) for show, and her kids know that, even at a young age. They know their mother feels burdened by them one day, then showers them with goodies the next, to promote herself as mother extraordinaire. They know they are being used.
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Spot on. And I would rather have Kate own that she has no interest in her children other than making money off them, rather than all this pretend pretend Pioneer Bitch stuff.
Admin, any comment.....
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 152
Hmmmm....
kategetsnada @kategetsnada
@kateplusmy8 CS hearing reveals Kate gets no CS. visitation is 50/50 now. Kates done.
Tweet, no idea. After my source told me yesterday the hearing had occurred and Jon got more custody, I asked them what the new arrangements are. They didn't reply yet and I'm not going to bug them about it. If they tell me great, if not I'm sure we'll find out eventually.
By the way lets assume Jon got a lot more custody, do you think Kate will still pretend everything is normal and the kids are still with her all the time, or she will actually own up to it?
She'll have to admit it eventually won't she? Or will she just keep living in fantasy land?
kategetsnada @kategetsnada
@kateplusmy8 CS hearing reveals Kate gets no CS. visitation is 50/50 now. Kates done.
I'm a little suspicious of this tweet...could be a faker trying to stir the pot and see the blogs go crazy over it. The tweet account has only ONE tweet - this one - so until it's confirmed, I'd say it was fake.
Regarding motto vs. mantra, I think they are both the wrong words in the context in which they were used...she should have said "agenda."
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 162
By the way lets assume Jon got a lot more custody, do you think Kate will still pretend everything is normal and the kids are still with her all the time, or she will actually own up to it?
She'll have to admit it eventually won't she? Or will she just keep living in fantasy land?
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I bet she will be traveling a lot more now that Jon has more time with the kids.
And when has Kate ever really owned up to anything.?
@DarrenLGiles did you know koalas are my very favoritest animals ever????
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"very favoritest"...OMG...
no very, no favoritest (unbelievable)...
just simply "favorite"...
What is she, 8 years old? That's the mentality she displays on a daily basis.
But Admin, with all due respect, Anonymouse Today has been Anonymouse Today for a while. I'd hate to lose her take on the situation.
Please, Anonymouse Today, just rename yourself...pick something from literature or a movie and clue us in.
Regarding Kate's frequent mistakes with words, I found this interesting article.
http://grantbarrett.com/saying-it-wrong-on-purpose
"A malapropism is when you substitute a word with a similar-sounding one, although it’s usually accidental."
Regarding motto vs. mantra, I think they are both the wrong words in the context in which they were used...she should have said "agenda."
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All three are wrong I think. Dictatorship is really the only proper word.
I just don't want to be seen as making exceptions for regulars with anonymous that's all.
Yes, malapropism!!!! Thanks!
I hear people on Biggest Loser making malapropisms a lot. I don't know what it is about the people they pick. I smile, not laughing at them, it's just funny how it's so often them. I'm sure I would do it under all the pressure from that show.
Might I suggest some kind of Shawshank reference! You just can't do it enough.
And there's this from Wikipedia . . .
The word malapropos is an adjective or adverb meaning "inappropriate" or "inappropriately", derived from the French phrase mal à propos (literally "ill-suited").[2] The earliest English usage of the word cited in the Oxford English Dictionary is from 1630. Malaprop used in the linguistic sense was first used by Lord Byron in 1814 according to the OED.
The terms malapropism and the earlier variant malaprop come from Richard Brinsley Sheridan's 1775 play The Rivals, and in particular the character Mrs. Malaprop. Sheridan presumably named his character Mrs. Malaprop, who frequently misspoke (to great comic effect), in joking reference to the word malapropos.
The alternative term "Dogberryism" comes from the 1598 Shakespearean play Much Ado About Nothing, in which the character Dogberry produces many malapropisms with humorous effect.[3]
[edit] Distinguishing features
An instance of mis-speech is called a malapropism when:
The word or phrase means something different from the word the speaker or writer intended to use.
The word or phrase sounds similar to what was intended. For example, using obtuse (wide or dull) instead of acute (narrow or sharp) is not a malapropism; using obtuse (stupid or slow-witted) when one means abstruse (esoteric or difficult to understand) is.
The resulting utterance is nonsense.
These characteristics set malapropisms apart from other speaking or writing mistakes, such as eggcorns or spoonerisms.
I'm going to change my name from Sooverit to Mrs. Malaprop. : )
I remember hearing a really bad one recently but I can't remember what it was....
But I remember when Kate said something like I give them free range to do that...hahahahha.
Isn't that a word for when you confuse one word for another similar word? English majors out there?
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Admin-I think the word you're thinking of is "Malapropism":
mal·a·prop·ism
noun
1.
an act or habit of misusing words ridiculously, especially by the confusion of words that are similar in sound.
2.
an instance of this, as in “Lead the way and we'll precede.”
Her substitution of "beaming" for "brimming" would apply here.
"Motto" for "mantra" wouldn't really apply as a malapropism, though.
In Kate's case, her misuse of language could be called "idiotsyncrasies.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 169
Regarding motto vs. mantra, I think they are both the wrong words in the context in which they were used...she should have said "agenda."
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All three are wrong I think. Dictatorship is really the only proper word.
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LOL, true!
OMG, I LOVE "idiotsyncrasies"! That's a riot!
Oh there are so many malaprops ... we should start a list. It would be amusing. My husband is prone to using malaprops every now and then. When our puppy started jumping on our laps if we had a snack my husband said, "We're going to have to nip that in the butt." LOL He's a super intelligent man, but he has this thing with language use that trips him up sometimes. As for Kate, she's just dumb.
Kate wouldn't care if he gets more time with the kids because that means more time for herself (and no tweeting, hopefully). She just wanted to stick it to him orginally.
(And, FWIW, I've never thought of Anonymouse Today as actually "anonymous". I always recognize that name and style as a regular poster like most others here with their names.)
When I was a kid for whatever reason I had it in my head the expression was lay down the line and not lay down the law. Someone finally corrected me, lol.
Funny considering I would become a lawyer someday!
Anyway I love listening for them. It doesn't take much to amuse me. I am like Anderson Cooper--I giggle like a girl at the oddest things.
Kate wouldn't care if he gets more time with the kids because that means more time for herself (and no tweeting, hopefully). She just wanted to stick it to him originally.
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I think she cares in the sense that she just wants to win.
Usually people who just want to win in family law court eventually lose. Sooner or later. For Kate, likely sooner.
I read some of Kate's tweets from today. She loves to keep reminding everyone about going to Australia. Look at me... I LOVE Koalas, I LOVE Australian food, Blah Blah Blah...
She reminds me of people I meet that talk about how they were "fill in the blank" when they were younger or they did XYZ years ago.
The kind that need to make sure others know that at one time in their lives something happened and everyone should OOH and AAH. But sadly everyone knows that it was in the past and the present day is very different and not too impressive.
Kate's life is very boring when I compare her life to mine and my family, friend's, nieghbor's, co-workers ... heck and most of my acquaintances even have more exciting and PRODUCTIVE lives than Kate. And I am not boasting or bragging - just making an observation.
I still really would like to know What does Kate do ALL day while her kids are in school? Or when they are with Jon on his weekends?
She tweets a very sad and pathetic life.
She reminds me of people I meet that talk about how they were "fill in the blank" when they were younger or they did XYZ years ago.
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Betty White and St. Olaf??? :) I loved that character because everyone knows someone like that.
By the way is her new show any good? Haven't seen it.
Jon's status on Linked In shows that he is currently self employed. When did his current job end?
"There was no neglect, just an indifference in them we knew existed. As a result, we were self-starters, inventive and managed our own upbringing."
This is called benign neglect. There's a sort of a pendulum swing going on in parenting now to go back to this, as a reaction to the extreme overinvolvement and helicopter parenting seen in the last couple of decades or so. I think it's a good thing.
With benign neglect, you allow kids to experience some frustration (on an age-appropriate level). Frustration is actually a good thing, as opposed to what parents have been thinking the last several years. It can and does lead to resourcefulness, problem-solving, even a bit of creativity. Jumping in to fix things or do things for kids every time they experience a tiny bit of frustration cripples them and creates learned helplessness, which has ramifications in their personal and social life and school achievement.
Also being overly invested in everything your kids do can backfire quite a bit. Parents need to keep an identity of their own, separate from their identities as parents. It's healthier for everyone involved.
What Kate does, though, is all kinds of screwed up. She micromanages and strongly controls many things in her kids' lives, but then doesn't seem to give a crap about the stuff she SHOULD care about. She is wholly lacking in joy and affection, and as someone pointed out above, has never seemed bonded to her children on any significant emotional level.
She knows the words to say to SOUND like a good mom to a person paying only a casual amount of attention (or a person who is very invested in what she says as being the truth). But it rings hollow to anyone else, and for good reason: she's play-acting. She doesn't really have that bond or any maternal protective instinct, so she pretends. And most people can smell the fiction, even if they can't name what it is that smells off.
By the way, chores are great. On an AGE-APPROPRIATE LEVEL. And in an age-appropriate amount. But these kids don't seem to have that, nor do they have a very balanced life. All work and no play makes Johnny a very dull boy. But it doesn't surprise me: she's the biggest happiness-exterminator I've ever seen in my life. It's almost like she seeks it out: any joy, any laughter, any happiness, and she shows up just to STOMP IT OUT. She's soul-killing.
Yes! I loved Betty White Rose on the Golden Girls. .I haven't seen her new show yet but one of my kids DVR'd it for watching later this week.
This is a test. I've tried posting all day and nothing goes through.
Hmmm...I can only post through my gmail account. Any ideas what's going on Admin?
Oh I know Anonymouse Today, too. It's the same person it's always been. She lives in Kate's area and knows the school.
Anonymouse, just pick a different name, but keep posting. I like your comments!
Kate's Going Down, didn't you just change from Kate Doesn't Rate? See #185--was that you? Or is that the person who stole your name? I'm getting so confused.
And I agree about Anonymouse Today, please don't leave. Enjoy your comments.
Flight of the Kiwi said…..
KG has Boston on her marathon bucket list for next year? She's got to shave more than 2 hours of her time in LV to qualify. I would think that would be very hard to accomplish.
Not hard at all. She just needs a faster scooter. Snark aside, I have friends who train very hard for all their marathons. They are very dedicated and real runners. Kate just runs when she feels like it. She doesn’t seem to have a clue what she is doing or what marathons she is running. Remember Rod Dixon was going to train her? No mention of him or the Madrid marathon
No idea blogger being buggy again?
Kate does like the control over the 8. One day (possibly sooner than she wants since 2 are almost teens) her kids will find out that their Mom created a "virtual" life that they supposedly lived. And they will compare this life that she tweeted about to the life that they really lived - and the 2 will not match.
They will ask about the 1000 easter eggs, the Sunday's at church, the Holiday's with "friends", the meals she says she cooks, the miles she says she runs, the 100s of cookies she says she bakes, the bread left for the garbage men, her paperwork that she always is working on, the magic bra,... I could go on and on. THe 8 kids will, one day, match their reality to Kate's Virtual reality.
Kate can not stop it from happening. It will happen. And they will know the real Kate and her lies.
And the worst, is that they will read all the hateful things their own Mom said about their own Dad. She can not hide what she put out there on TV and on twitter.
How very sad for all of them. The day will come. Kate can not control them forever.
Children of a parental alienator usually tend to turn out one of two ways. Either they fall for the parental alienation and end up hating the parent who is the target and adoring and believing the parental alienator. Or, they get old enough and see through the parental alienation, end up resenting the alienator for their relationship with the target being sabotaged, and end up going to court asking to have custody with the target and often never want to see the alienator. Odds are, at least SOME of the Gosselin kids will resent Kate and resent her big time for what she is trying to do to interfere with their relationship with the father they love.
A third option is not knowing who to love or hate and just ending up in a massive state of confusion which invariably results in drug use, early sex, and arrests.
Children of a parental alienator usually tend to turn out one of two ways. Either they fall for the parental alienation and end up hating the parent who is the target and adoring and believing the parental alienator. Or, they get old enough and see through the parental alienation, end up resenting the alienator for their relationship with the target being sabotaged, and end up going to court asking to have custody with the target and often never want to see the alienator. Odds are, at least SOME of the Gosselin kids will resent Kate and resent her big time for what she is trying to do to interfere with their relationship with the father they love.
A third option is not knowing who to love or hate and just ending up in a massive state of confusion which invariably results in drug use, early sex, and arrests.
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