Kate is scheduled to be on Today this morning on NBC. Kate twittered that she will be "giving updates on my family and sharing my money saving tips from@CouponCabin!"
Oh, and lookie who else is gonna be on!
Perhaps Kate is also hitting up an Apprentice casting call for next season?
I want to say this about Jon...he is a wild card as far if the kids are filmed again. After all he's been through, you would think he would stand up for what is right and put Kate where she belongs. Then again, he did get to taste the good life. I do see, though, if some of the kids decide to go into entertainment, both Jon and Kate would certainly encourgage it as they will make money but say it's what their child wants. Deep down they are both users and lazy.
I watched a clip. While I realize that adds to "hits," it doesn't add to ratings *per se*. I wasn't all that interested, frankly, I just wanted to see how she conducted herself. And I have to agree with Admin--she is PAINFUL to watch.
Why do you all think it's soooo important to her to be called 'hot'?
That comment seems to be what she lives for. You can see her breathe that in and absorb it into her being. It satisfies her and validates her existence. It makes her purr.
I'm trying to think what comment does that for me....and am coming up empty. Thoughts? What does it for you when someone says, "Oh, you're so xxxxx?"
She's still on twitter silence. I wonder if she's home yet. If she is home she's recovering from her hard working trip of self-promotion. I guess she thinks the only quality she needs to get a new show is for her look good. That's all she seems to be working on. I'm also guessing that she's doing the 1/2 marathon in SD because they would not let her cheat and she knows she would never be able to finish a full marathon. Wonder when she will leave for SD? Maybe she won't even go home!! Any guesses?
Maggie #191 I agree and thought the same thing. I was surprised she didn't mention on IE and the Today Show that Jon was now on board for the kids to film again.
Jon and Kate became addicted to the "big pay-off" that TLC was providing. Jon apparently didn't enjoy his position in the family, thus the running around began. They both had plenty of money for a time, then real life happened. They are lazy, greedy grifters, both of them. Don't fall for any of it. Let them find their own way again. Taking a few days off and visiting my dear brother's widow. Kate, believe it or not, some people in our society have real problems and still work and pay their own way every day without a "new show." Try it, you might like the freedom it brings.
If you were a producer looking for something for a new show, would you pick her? Probably not.
Those two clips were painful, in more ways than one. What about them said, oh! Here's someone that people will want to watch!
This used up, obviously miserable hag (not a word I'm using lightly) with a horrible reputation, proven by the film of her own show. What about her yesterday said pick me?
She radiated unhappiness, rage, hate with every fiber of her being. Who wants to work with that?
When is the SD marathon? BTW...I loved when she mentioned it on the Today show...you could barely hear her. She didn't sound that excited about it. Did anybody catch that?
WOW. I just now realized there was something missing from both interviews...a topic covered repeatedly (and in depth) on all recent shows.
To wit: There was no mention of dating, of pursuing/finding a romantic relationship with a man.
As recently as her Dr. Drew interview, she was talking openly (and at length) about her desire for male companionship--and, of course, the eight(count 'em, 8) obstacles to that.
Hmmmmm....was the topic considered off-limits, I wonder? And if so, why?
When did Jon say he was on board with filming? He said they would have to talk about it if I recall. That's what my parents said to me when they really meant NO. Lol.
I found the whole interview schedule to be strange. Why? How did she make the cut to the Today Show? She has so little to offer that is current.
A new show seems so unlikely to me. We already know everything about Kate. The children are no more or less interesting than any other 8-year-old. I don't think they can create audience participation by going to another remote, expensive location.
Mel, 4 -- your question is still rattling around in my head. Good one.
I watched the clip at the top of this topic. She seems nervous to me. Unprepared. Unexcited.
Even when her responses were positive, there was not deep enthusiasm or happiness. Her discontent is showing.
I do not watch anything with Ms Kreider on it. Only exception was DWTS because I love that show and watch it faithfully, no matter who is on. And stop reading on Bristol Palin, the young woman got a chance because of who her mother is and then she worked hard and took full advantage of the opportunity. She improved. Contrast that with Ms Kreider who took the opportunity and learned nothing from it and did not work hard at all. I do not watch anything with Ms Kreider on it. I am not interested in the clips. I DO read here because the recaps and commentary about her appearances are so very funny and witty. Admin, thanks for such a great atmosphere here that encourages such creative, funny snark and sometimes serious commentary. PS if you want to read something similar about American idol, check out vote for the worst. Hilarious!
Administrator, 7 -- you made me laugh. I had forgotten the response of "death" -- "Your father and I will talk about it." Really. It only meant that the no was delayed.
LOL. All they talked about on the IE interview was Jon! Everything the interviewer referred to included Jon. Yes she looks wasted again. Disdainful. Still throwing him under the bus while trying to sound positive. This is getting as boring as her begging for a new show. She is done
I thought from scratch meant making something from it's full ingredient list instead of, say, heating up a frozen meal? ---------------
That's exactly what I'd meant, Tamara.:) I hadn't meant comparing cooking from scratch to eating out every night. I'd assume eating out would be the most expensive option compared to any of the others. I'd meant is cooking from scratch cheaper than cooking from a huge selection of all the pre-made processed stuff sold at the store.
Perhaps it was confusing as the context was Kate referring to cooking from scratch compared to buying lunch at school. I wouldn't consider buying lunch at school the same thing as "eating out", really. And also would not consider putting a sandwich, an apple, etc. in a lunch back "cooking from scratch" either.
I'd meant"cooking from scratch" as opposed to making throwing together a casserole using canned soup, for example. Fresh versus processed. Thanks Tamara:) ___________________________
I do NOT see Jon allowing the children to be filmed....as a group...on TV....other than for a possible one-time update show. And I even doubt he'd allow that. I think he is doing and saying what he can to combat nasty accusations Kate makes about him to the children and trying not to feed into it.
Is this just my opinion? Yes? But it's made after a great deal of observation of Kate's "parent alienator" behavior. Not only have I encountered other parent alienators in real life...but Kate's behavior, IMO, puts her flat-smack right there in that category.
IMO...Jon is playing the "well, we'll have to see" card....for the sake of the children. At this point, he's doing whatever it takes to minimize classic parent alienator behavior on the part of their mother.
One caveat to the above....I believe if one of the older twins down the road (high-school age) wanted to become involved in acting groups for teens....and let's say she was good enough to be in an off-broadway play and she really wanted to do it and was old enough to make that decision...that Jon might okay that. Because he would evaluate it in terms of whether it was or was not in the best interest of that child at that age.
But for the children now? My bet is that he will not allow them to be filmed and his comments are intentionally meant to be vague and to prevent even more parent alienator behavior from his ex-spouse and to "keep the peace" (plus the fact that he knows there are not likely any offers forthcoming anyway so why get Kate all riled-up for nothing).
I finally saw both interviews, and I thought she looked a little bit like a deer in the headlights. Maybe that's how she always looks during interviews. I don't know, but she did have that air of someone who had gotten emotionally smacked in the face and hadn't recovered yet.
She probably didn't get the royal treatment she expected, and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the hair or makeup people commented on the nasty condition of her skin and hair. Maybe she realized the NYC stylist isn't doing her favors? I dunno. I thought she looked like the emperor who just realized he wasn't wearing any clothes.
I'm also guessing that she had to sit in the green room with the tanning mom... Two overtanned really bad moms sitting together. OH, THE IRONY! Wonder what they talked about? Would Kate even acknowledge her presence, since we all know she is SO much better than everyone else? Did tanning mom tell her off? Who knows? Speculation on green room antics has me chuckling, though!
The interviews were so awkward, painful, and just horrible to watch. Ann Curry had to coax her through the entire thing. And in the IE interview, they had done something else really weird and colorful with her makeup, much different from the bland, corpse in the casket look she sports these days, but equally as horrendous. I almost felt sorry for her. ALMOST.
No 37 year old woman should look that old and miserable. I saw a pic of her in one of yesterday's articles from a year or two ago in a sleeveless dress with maybe an orange and pink pattern on it, and she looked stunning! How does this happen to someone so fast?
Starz22 - You ask some interesting questions. I can't answer for anyone but myself, but -- I didn't watch and won't watch. KKs voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard for me. It makes me cringe and break out in gooseflesh. I don't visit her website -- never have and have no plans to, go to CC to read her "blog", nor read her twitter feed -- except for the ones posted at the top of this page. I don't seek out articles about her, although if one comes up on my homepage news feed or in a newsletter I subscribe for, I will read it. I read and post here, on Smalltown Gosselins, and read on GWOP. I used to post regularly on GWOP, but lately, everything I send is rejected with no explanation. Why do I follow KK? I guess it's partly the rubbernecker/trainwreck factor and partly hoping and praying to see her downfall. I read the blogs and post because I enjoy the civil discourse here and at Smalltown and can get a good laugh at some of the crap that makes it through the filters on GWOP. There are a number of intelligent, compassionate, witty, interesting posters here and I enjoy reading their comments and entering into the discussions. I'd miss that, if KK disappeared off the face of the earth and Admin shut the blog down. That is what keeps me coming back here, much moreso than any interest in what KK is doing.
I didnt watch kate today.But I see here that many did. I just have to ask....why give this woman an audience? ----------- Because abusers and child exploiters need to monitored. She went on the today show and openly said she wants her kids on another reality show. After viewing audiences have seen their naked bodies, seen them vomiting, seen their mother mock, ridicule,and deny them WATER, this woman needs a bright light on her ALL THE TIME.
She KNOWS TLC had a pedophile on their payroll editing every inch of film,and now she wants to put them at risk again with another reality show? This is why we watch. Someone has to. Someone has to be their voice.
In both interviews she was either tired , hungover or on sedatives. She was about to fall asleep! And her skin looks bad.
The internet tabs picked up the pictures and a PR release describing her as hot. Believe me as someone who has worked in PR, the "hot" description was not the opinion of the writer but released by Kate and Steve. I am pretty much certain he took those off camera shots of her on The Today Show. Perhaps short dresses with big boobs is his idea of hot. To me she would fit right in with porn stars. She looks nasty.
Mel -- to comment on 2 of your posts. I agree with you that KK is a study in character affecting appearance. She's sort of "A Picture of Dorian Gray" in reverse.
What comment would do "that" for me? I think "You're so intelligent" or "You're so compassionate" might have that thrill factor for me.
I disagree that Jon is lazy. On the show, he was the one doing all the work. He's worked his butt off the last 2 years or so, also. That's not the hallmark of a lazy person. Passive -- yes, a user -- maybe, unfocused -- probably. Lazy -- no.
She KNOWS TLC had a pedophile on their payroll editing every inch of film,and now she wants to put them at risk again with another reality show? This is why we watch. Someone has to. Someone has to be their voice. \-----
Yes, I agree about Dorian Gray- mentioned that months ago- fits Kate's outer appearance and inner soul perfectly. Loved that book, but chilling truth in it...
I think Jon was maybe lazy or unmotivated before he met Kate re: career etc and enjoyed as idle lifestyle. But he really stepped up with all the kids he found himself father to, as seen on TV, and also with his jobs. But he was definitely taken for a ride by Kate and squashed into her mold. Then some of his plans got ruined ( working for Bob Carson) and also b/c of Kate's aspirations for the family and TLC etc etc Yes, some of the money and fame went to his head, but that could happen to many people...I think he has matured past lazy and vain and is trying to make his way in the world to be a good father and a happy productive person. Why should anyone fault him for that? traits?
Readerlady, 21 -- I agree with you regarding Jon. I think he is a nice guy. probably undeveloped when he met Kate. Swept into a whirlwind of "their crazy life".
I think he is growing out of a passive personality. He seems to need to have a companion in his life. He may be too easily influenced by a strong personality.
I don't think he is lazy. I think he adores those children and they are safer with his decisions than with the ones made by Kate.
TLC stinks said.... "...Perhaps short dresses with big boobs is his idea of hot...." ---------
Hey listen....short dresses and big boobs is a LOTTA GUYS' idea of hot....but to me, 1) I don't like the flat-hair look, 2) makes her face look too long...more of a "horse-face" look (which you don't want, esp. with large veneers) and 3) just makes her face look very drawn and it ages her.
I did NOT like her porcupine-do (on its own) but have to admit her face looked much prettier with it...more heart-shaped, maybe. I think she'd look much better with shorter hair....OR at least get some body and curls and a tad more height with this longer look. To me, it just looks like her hair is dirty and flat. Not a good look, IMO.
Of course....maybe this is in style. What do I know? But I don't think it looks flattering on her.
aggiemom09121416 said... 22 She KNOWS TLC had a pedophile on their payroll editing every inch of film,and now she wants to put them at risk again with another reality show? This is why we watch. Someone has to. Someone has to be their voice. \-----
I need to clarify...this is why we watch HER...
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Right, that's why 90% of the comments are about her hair, clothes and overall physical appearance. Ask any social worker and they'll tell you that the first thing they do when checking out an abuse allegation is to note the appropriateness of the mother's hair color and style.
You all watch to snark. Claiming there is some "higher" motive doesn't change that very obvious reality.
I can see your point, but I myself didnt watch and posted that I didnt. Not because I didnt want to give her ratings or anything, but only because she is gross. Mainly her voice gets on my nerves and her accent (it always has, even in the first 2 specials I wanted to reach into the TV and correct her language), along with her fake cougar looks.
I wont watch that Guilianna person either or whatever her name is. For the life of me I cant figure out what her claim to fame is that these networks hang all over her.But that's just me.
WOW. I just now realized there was something missing from both interviews...a topic covered repeatedly (and in depth) on all recent shows.
To wit: There was no mention of dating, of pursuing/finding a romantic relationship with a man.
As recently as her Dr. Drew interview, she was talking openly (and at length) about her desire for male companionship--and, of course, the eight(count 'em, 8) obstacles to that.
Hmmmmm....was the topic considered off-limits, I wonder? And if so, why?
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On a related note, she looks as if she's hiding something. Pressed lips, tight shoulders, narrowed eyes, crossed legs, etc....as if she's trying to hold back a secret.
Right, 27 -- I admit that I have laughed at some of the very clever snarking here.
I think one of the reasons that Kate's appearance is a target is because she LIES. What she presents and what she says are opposites. Hence, the comments. She makes it too easy to analyze (and pick apart!) what she puts out there. The "good bra" is just an example.
Mandy said: And in the IE interview, they had done something else really weird and colorful with her makeup ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mandy - I noticed in that interview that her face had 2 different colors. She was pale around her nose/mouth area, but her cheeks were bronze. It reminded me of Fred Flintstone's face. He always had a different color on the facial-hair area of his face. Maybe it was bad lighting? Or the makeup person did it on purpose?
I'm not understanding something....if she was there for CC, why did she hit the ground running with a plea for a new show? It sounded like a cry for help to get her out of that situation (her CC job). How insulting is that to her employer? She doesn't want to be on the Today show promoting coupons. She wants to be there to talk about how hot and loved she is. I'm suprised she didn't turn on the water works and get on her hands and knees while she begged. At least THAT would have been more honest
Right, that's why 90% of the comments are about her hair, clothes and overall physical appearance. Ask any social worker and they'll tell you that the first thing they do when checking out an abuse allegation is to note the appropriateness of the mother's hair color and style. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
I am an LISW in the state of Ohio and YES the parents' physical demeanor (which includes their style of dress and self care) IS DEFINITLY part of the assessment.
Agreed! There's an obvious disconnect between her chirpy tweets/blog & the sour-faced woman who sat for the Today & IE interview. I suspect at least some of our observations are connected to that...an attempt to reconcile what what she says & what we see.
Theres no harm that can come from it???? Even if there was..she could give a rats ass about it. She wants that damn money so she can parade around like she's better than everyone else. In the process, get paid for going on free trips. OMG..she's a piece of work or a piece of shit (whatever you prefer). I can't believe she expects that again...will not, can not, would not happen again....get on with it...enough is enough.. YUCK!
I wonder if Kate will ever admit her kids will eventually stop asking when they get to go, "here or there." I mean if that is seriously all her kids still talk about--we miss the crew, we want to travel, than she as a parent hasn't done a very good job in having prepared her children to move on from TLC and focus on other aspects of their lives. It's sad and unfortunate but i feel for Kate it was a real status symbol.
If she truly wanted to give her kids experience, opportunities she would do as she said and still take these kids anywhere regardless of every many she has as I quote, "We don't do anything different, this is our real lives." Real life before and after cameras however looks a whole lot different.
I can admit it. I watch to criticize her and snark. The bitch criticized Jon 24/7 on TV and humiliated him constantly. She only gets what she deserves IMO.
If every family trip was dependent on a television crew and network budget, no one would ever go anywhere with their children. Kate just hasn't figured that out.
I am an LISW in the state of Ohio and YES the parents' physical demeanor (which includes their style of dress and self care) IS DEFINITLY part of the assessment.
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So have you removed a child from the home because you didn't approve of the mother's hair color or style? Yeah, I didn't think so.
People are not commenting on Kate's hair and choice of dress out of concern for her children. Unless you are going for laughs, please don't try to make that claim.
Mandy said... 17... I thought she looked a little bit like a deer in the headlights. In the first interview, for sure. She acted like she had no idea what they were going to ask, and hadn't given any thought to how she might answer. Which is kind of stupid since they ask the same questions every time because there's been nothing new to talk about for the last 3 years.
Her answers didn't really make sense with what she was asked, which made the whole thing feel off-kilter.
she did have that air of someone who had gotten emotionally smacked in the face and hadn't recovered yet. In that second interview for sure. You nailed it. Either something emotionally/psychologically upsetting happened between the two interviews, or she had taken some sort of mood altering drug.
The interviews were so awkward, painful, and just horrible to watch. Ann Curry had to coax her through the entire thing. I noticed that, too. It was really weird. It was like pulling teeth to get any information out of her. Kind of odd if you're there to promote opportunities for yourself.
It's also hard to interview someone who talks incoherntly, in sentence fragments instead of complete sentences. And doesn't use words correctly. So much of the time it's hard to tell what she means because she uses words incorrectly because she's attached the wrong meaning to a word.
No 37 year old woman should look that old and miserable....I DO feel sorry for her. Yeah, me too. Kind of. But she's so abusive and such a user, and doesn't seem to ever learn, that I have to take it back.
She really looked miserable in that last interview, didn't she.
Katie Cry-duh said... 15 LOL. All they talked about on the IE interview was Jon! Everything the interviewer referred to included Jon.
I noticed that! Man, that had to piss her off royally. Maybe that's why she looked so awful. Cuz she wanted to talk about herself, and they insisted on talking about Jon?
Finally....those off-camera pics from the morning interview....those boobs! They're huge! They could float the Queen Mary.
I don't get how they can change size so dramatically. Is this common with implants? Can you just blow them up at will? It seems like sometimes they're humongous, and other times not as much.
Right, 43 -- I don't think that is what Dwindle meant.
I don't believe that any child would be removed from their home based on appearances. But, there would be MAJOR clues in how a mom dressed, acted and looked. That kind info would not and should not be ignored.
Her kids don't bring that stuff up....SHE DOES. She can't very well say it's her thinking that. That would make her look like the selfish and greedy bitch that she is. Thats all her talking...I guarentee you.
Right -- I, personally, want to be held accountable for what I say and do. (I am sure I am not the only one here who feels that way.) You have a point of view.
We try to be respectful to each other here.
Maybe we need to consider what you are saying. Join in, please with kindness.
Dmasy said... 45 Right, 43 -- I don't think that is what Dwindle meant.
I don't believe that any child would be removed from their home based on appearances. But, there would be MAJOR clues in how a mom dressed, acted and looked. That kind info would not and should not be ignored.
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Kate's appearance is pretty darn generic. She looks like a million other women out there. There is nothing about her physical appearance that would raise red flags in the mind of a competent social worker. She is not unkempt. Her clothes are not dirty. Being a bleached blonde with a hair style that may not flatter you has nothing to do with ability to care for children.
I admit it, I read for the snark. (No offense, because I like you all, but some of the speculation is over the top sometimes.) I post rarely about Kate, but I did yesterday, and it was about her appearance. She has just been so mean and nasty and emotionally abusive and downright critical of everyone for so long, I do enjoy reading here. Think about it - when was the last time she was nice to someone, complimented someone, or thanked someone without a finger wave? She didn't.
I watched those youtube videos of the NYC episode after someone reminded me she had gone there (I had just returned from China) and she says that Jamie is another mother to her children, exactly like her. And then proceeded to treat her like absolute crap. It was sort of a compliment (from her), but that's no excuse to treat people like they are there to be at your beck and whim (to quote my darling husband). I had a friend like that and told her to check herself several times and she is now gone. Long gone and a relief to have it that way too. When I called her out one last time on email and told her the ball was in her court, I never heard from her again. That's how these people work. And then they wonder why they are lonely.
Kate's appearance is pretty darn generic. She looks like a million other women out there. There is nothing about her physical appearance that would raise red flags in the mind of a competent social worker. She is not unkempt. Her clothes are not dirty. Being a bleached blonde with a hair style that may not flatter you has nothing to do with ability to care for children. ==== And she did all that with money she got off the backs of her kids - which does have a bearing on her parenting abilities.
You all watch to snark. Claiming there is some "higher" motive doesn't change that very obvious reality. ---------
Snark, imo, is a stress reliever from watching her constantly exploit her kids. Why does the world need to know her kids need bras?
Gee, you have an unemployed mom who verbalizes she is worried about how to pay the bills, yet she spends plenty of money on her wardrobe, her fancy cars, her trips (marathon, LV, and an upcoming marathon), and a pricey hair salon in NYC, tanning, and a perfect manicure 24/7..(let's not forget Mady saying her mom needs another closet for more shoes)..all the while, she drones on about mixing and matching kid's clothes to save a dollar, dresses her kids in too big clothes, makes a big production of going through bins of old hand-me-downs of clothes and shoes, and can't afford activities for the kids such as scouts, gymnastics and going to the movie. Oh, almost forgot that her kids aren't even worthy of genuine dinner plates, they still eat on paper ones, and the meals they are fed are grossly lacking in quantity. She constantly tweets on school nights, when she should be spending that time with her kids.
So yes, if that is considered 'snark', then I guess so. (oh, just remembered a clip from the 'realist reality show on tv'....what young boy sways back and forth for comfort? one that is maternally neglected, that's who.
Kate deserves all the 'snark' she has coming to her. At least her parents didn't put her naked body on tv.
This is not "A MINOR CONSIDERATION". If Paul Petersen were to start commenting on Kate's tan, hairstyle, etc...on that site, it would look a bit inappropriate.
But here? This is a non-fan site. We would like to see the G. kids enjoy some privacy and would not like to see them back on a TV show again.
But we also don't particularly like Kate....and much of what she does....and says. Where is the big hypocrisy?
She, like other adult celebrities, put herself out there for public consumption. When you do that, you take on all the risks associated with that....and one of the biggest is that not everyone is gonna like you. If you don't want that, don't put yourself out there and remain private.
I don't like Kim Kardashian either. She's another legal adult who seeks the spotlight....so she's fair game (as long as it's legal....and as far as I know, snarking is legal. So is free speech). In fact, I'm pretty sick of ALL the reality shows at this point.
But I'm not getting the logic of the criticism for snarking on Kate's appearance. Personally, I wasn't snarking....I was simply stating I didn't like the way she had her hair...and thought she looked better in the past with curly hair with some body to it. But sure, others here took it to the snarking level....but so what? I'm just not getting why this was a big problem.
Somewhere there is a hired PR person listening to Kate whinny : "I AM trying, look I gave up all CARBS to be AWN TV and I am hungry. I need someone to teach me how I learn. Don't send ME AWN TV to fail. Make ME look good. Is that so hard? (All we asked of you Kate was to read up on the new ap, get plenty of rest and not drink the night before your interviews) "You have no right to judge me. I am a single parent of EIGHT CHILDREN who depend on ME. I need Steve, where is he? Get Steve in here NOW. (What is it Kite? "She can't speak to me like this. Fire her NOW. And fire the last babysitter,whatever her name is, I am so tired of people leaving CARBS out where I am tempted to eat them. Do any of you people understand what I do for all of you? You eat because I don't. So get me a freakin salad now. And find out why my kid are doing, I have to blog about them after lunch.
I did some home health nursing for a while many years ago and yes, clothing, hair, mouth bathing hygiene were definitely considered when I evaluated my clients in their homes.
An example:
A 73 y/o female, many years widowed and living alone with 7 cats; her home smelled terrible, she had a pervasive body odor, her hair was in greasy strings hanging in her face, her teeth were yellow and had visible food particles trapped, her ears had enough yellow wax build-up that wax particles were plainly visible and her clothing was dirty with food stains, wrinkled and her underwear had what my brother euphamistically called 'shit skids'. Her socks stood up by themselves in the corner.
A sad, sad case to be sure. Her appearance told me that she had no concept of personal hygiene, no self-awareness, no ability or motivation to clean her person or her home. In short, she was showing multiple signs of dementia and depression.
In her case, all the grown sons were called in, a family conference was held with me (nurse) and social worker and mom was immediately taken to hospital for medical evaluation and placed in assisted living with dementia unit.
When people here talk about appearance being one of the key factors in evaluation, that is what they are talking about, not a bad dye job or exposed roots.
No one is saying kart's bad hair do is, per se, an indication of her lack of mothering ability. It is one factor in pointing to her selfishness and lack of awareness of parental responsibility before personal responsibility. She simply feels, for whatever sick reason, she is more important than her kids.
Yes, evaluating personal care and appearance is definitely a valid tool. Social workers, nurses, physicians use it all the time as one part of diagnosing before treatment.
Well, guess Kate had to stay in NYC another night since she was so exhausted! I bet she pops back on twitter tonight, when the kids get home.
Question for Kate....you still making all those great meals and freezing them for the days when you are away?? we haven't heard a mention about the soups you make 'once a year'...wasn't that a 'tradition?"
and yes, I guess that is snark. I would also call it disgust.
I had a thought about Kate's chickens...since she's always getting her words mixed up, you think she got those chickens in hopes that one would lay a golden egg?? :)
Someone upthread asked why we watch...I'll answer that.
I watched The Today Show - because I always watch The Today Show in the morning. I like to get my news, weather, current events - and so that was no different. Kate, no Kate - doesn't matter to me. I'm going to watch my morning show.
I watched Inside Edition because I've been watching it since Bill O'Reilly hosted it - that tells you how long ago THAT was! I like it better than Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood - so that's my choice during the dinner hour.
And yes. I snark on her appearance. Is there a law against that? I do it because she's asked for it. She's the one that's put herself out there for so long - she's the one who's spent God-knows-what on her own personal appearance - and so yes. I snark.
If she looks good, I'll be the first to say she looks good. If she interviews well, I'll be the first to say that she interviews well. I'll give her credit if I feel she deserves it - but lately, she hasn't deserved it. She's done NOTHING noteworthy lately that I can see...so she gets no credit from me lately.
I was a Psychology major in school, and frankly, Kate is a psychologist's dream. Her complete lack of self-awareness is fascinating...and I guess I keep waiting for her to show SOME signs of awareness.
Oh hell, I feel no need to justify my snark on Kate. It's snark. Criticism. If she can't take it, she needs to PERMANENTLY and COMPLETELY get out of the public eye. Most every public figure gets criticized at some point or another, some more than others. Some deserve criticism more than others, and Kate RICHLY deserves it, many times over.
She's an ass with a self-important streak a million times bigger than her actual worth. She's a child exploiter who has indicated just yesterday she's willing and ready to exploit her kids all over again at a moment's notice if someone will just pay her and put her on TV. DESPITE the inappropriate shots of her young kids blasted all over the world. DESPITE the creepers out there who seem to think her kids belong to them. DESPITE the fact that a convicted pedophile was one of their EDITORS, for God's sake. She doesn't give a shit about ANY of that, as long as you hand her the money.
What kind of ASSHOLE feels that way? I mean, really? She doesn't have a protective maternal bone in her body. It's all about her and what SHE can get.
And all this bullshit about how she needs to support them somehow. Well, yeah, she does. She needs to get a freaking JOB and quit being such a deadbeat. She needs to get off her ass and learn what it's like to earn a paycheck BY HERSELF, not on her kids' backs.
But that won't cut it for her. I've never even gotten the feeling she LIKES her kids, much less loves them, like she protests so hard that she does. I'd take it a step further and say I think she regrets having eight kids now. They aren't her little money-makers anymore. She's got no use for them unless they're getting her a TV show--I guess she's figured out she can't get one on her own, so she's back to offering up her young children as sacrifices on the temple of fame and fortune.
She's despicable. Disgusting. And I'm here to watch her slow but inevitable descent into obscurity.
No one here should ever apologize for snarking on Kate. She puts herself out there. She's an adult. She knows what she's doing. Snarking totally allowed, just like what dee3 said.
If there are people reading who get upset by any snark on Kate, I suggest you quit reading.
Once again, you all are saying it better than I could!!
She is fascinating in a disgusting kind of I-don't-believe-it train wreck.
One more thought about those memory making trips. She was MISERABLE. Miserable while she was packing, miserable while in airports, miserable in Alaska, and miserable in an RV.
Why does she want to leave home (with the kids) again? She had a horrible time and she made sure the children did also.
PJs Momma: What was also odd was how Jamie wore similar clothes to Kate- black halter and white shorts in NYC for example- and apparently they have the same necklace? I wonder if she is a stand-in for Kate ( or was- wonder if they are still speaking!)
Why does she want to leave home (with the kids) again? She had a horrible time and she made sure the children did also. ------ Because the kids are the money makers, that's why. It's easier to make them earn it while she 'organizes'. Kate has a horrible time everywhere she goes, might as well get paid for it, right?
Just watched the IE interview. Yes, she certainly had odd facial expressions in the interview. Her face did look odd. Maybe it was the camera angle but something was off. The way she kepted rolling and squinting her eyes seemed very strange to me as well.
The ironic thing is, when she did that first special about having so many children, she had a personality. She seems to have lost a lot of it in these two interviews.
You would think that a person who is shopping around for another tv show would at least show a little enthusiasm for it. It's like she thinks she's entitled to a new tv show.
I don't watch Inside Edition but I did see the on-line minute-or-so video clip. It looked to me like a preliminary interview prior to going to the 'main event' which would be televised. Please someone tell me this clip is not the one that went to air; there must have been more to this interview otherwise why bother putting this pathetic woman on TV with all her shoulder shrugging, eye-rolling nervous gestures.
Mel 4- Great question. Quick answer: smart. A coworker paid me the best compliment of my life a while back. She said she always learns something new when she works with me. I'd take that over "hot" any day.
I like reading here, and posting occasionally, because the language is usually appropriate and one can snark without vulgarity. I hope this forum doesn't change now that some others are no longer active.
I posted earlier that I'll give Kate credit if she deserves it - which is a rare day, indeed.
Anyway, thought I'd back that statement up. Yesterday, I was impressed that she kept the "girls" covered. Yes - I was actually impressed that she didn't have on a low-cut top that displayed her twins. AND - I was impressed that the dress was NOT a shiny, cocktail dress - which would have been wildly inappropriate for morning TV.
So there. A positive statement for Kate - to show that it's not all negative. :)
Why do we snark on Kate? Oh, she’s asked for it, for years now. There’s a post that appeared on this blog on Dec. 9, 2010. Kate’s downward spiral was in full swing even then, a year and a half ago. At this point we’ve invested ourselves into seeing it through to the bitter end, complete with Kate kicking and screaming. Erin, wherever you are I hope you don’t mind that I loved your post so much that I saved it and now want to share it here again. (3 parts, due to length.)
Part 1: I know this sounds weird but for a while there I felt myself getting angry with God or the Universe or whatever. I mean, here is a woman who is truly undeserving of the generosity that has been bestowed upon her. She does not give back, have compassion for others, is selfish, demanding, greedy and cruel. Yet she truly is given life on a "golden plate" There are so many kind, loving, hard working, moral people out there who are suffering tragedy. Loss of loved ones, homelessness, unhealthy children yet still they persevere. It would make me nuts that the world allows a grifter like Kate to make millions while the plight of others is never examined. I would think to myself. WHY? Where is justice? Where is karma? What happened to "good things happen to good people?"
Part 2: This bitterness of how unfair things really are started to get to me. I had to shut off all things Kate. I can enjoy this blog though because it is nice to see other intelligent people say WTH to this craziness. Recently I started to come to terms with this. It hit me. Karma is coming. Remember the phrase "the bigger they are the harder they fall." I think for Kate to really learn the lesson she had to "be on top". It's such a farther fall. Let’s see.. she went from media darling, most talked about celeb of 09, super mom, bestselling author, had a children’s' line in the works, was beautiful, had lovely children, loving husband, enough money to survive, friends, family, was a paid speaker on all things mom, had the media on her side saying how great she was, butt kissed by TLC etc. Now look. haggard, loathed, a media joke, won several awards for douchbag and turkey of the year, children are sad, lost a loving husband, worries about money, has no friends, no family, no support. Kate is alone! It’s starting to crumble.
Part 3: Another thing I have noticed...lately the media stories about Kate all start with "a close source of Kate said ..." hmmmm Kate has no close people in her life. I truly think TLC is leaking negative stories about her as a secret revenge. I think they are sick of her personally but are willing to stay as long as ratings are there. In the meantime they are having fun "leaking" horror stories. Kate is no longer in a protected bubble. I really want Dateline or someone to do a true expose and get the WHOLE truth out once and for all of her scam and let this woman go hide in shame. I hate that she grifted from churches with her poor me bit and I hate what she has done to her children. I hate that she took so much from so many and has given back nothing. I can’t believe no one discusses THAT in the media. Ugh grifter in every sense of the word.
Other people who evaluate based on dress/hairstyle/appearance/communication skills are prospective employers. Provocative clothing, extreme hairstyles/makeup, garish jewelry, wild gestures and facial expressions are all turnoffs. Prospective employers look for discression in appearance, a person who looks an interviewer in the eye, who communicates confidently and coherently without "cutesy" expressions and made-up words. KK wants a new job in the entertainment industry. A prospective employer wants an interviewer who can fade into the background and showcase the interviewee. A person being interviewed for a job as a product demonstrator or representative needs to be able to showcase that product. In other words, the spotlight needs to be elsewhere. KK wants the spotlight, but she doesn't have anything to offer. As long as she dresses in slutwear, wears a hairstyle designed to call attention instead of being becoming, and behaves like an idiot, no one is going to be interested in hiring her.
You would think that a person who is shopping around for another tv show would at least show a little enthusiasm for it. It's like she thinks she's entitled to a new tv show. ****** What strikes me, and I'm sure most of you, is that Kate is so ungrateful for all the things and opportunities that have been given to her. I have never heard her acknowledge all the gifts and blessings she, Jon and the kids have received over the years. The woman is a bottomless pit, and sadly, she's modeling that for and projecting it upon the kids. The Gosselin's blessings have far exceeded their needs, but there's Kate, sulking because the gravy train has ended. This should be the era of "Gosselins give back", without expecting anything in return, or a camera crew in tow.
I got roped into her sphere by those darn adorable kids, and that won't happen again because I refuse to watch ANY family-related reality shows. This blog is my guilty pleasure, so, for now, I will read and post.
What another blog does or does not do makes no difference to me. The idea that all blogs have to shut down and she has to disappear in order for all to be right in MY world is ridiculous. It's like the alcoholic that says that another person or the presence of alcohol makes them drink. There have been some great posters that, for whatever reason, have moved on and I respect that. I don't respect people telling me and others what we should or shouldn"t do. I do not search out Kate's tweets or news about her. Most of the time, I don't even follow links here.
I find her interesting because rarely do I get to see this level of narcissism up close and personal. I have had people like her in my life, and now I know what it is when I see it. When I find Kate uninteresting, or when and if this blog closes, I will stop reading and posting. Admin manages to keep it light and I appreciate her efforts.
In the world of people who have unfairly pigged out at the trough, Kate is small potatoes. Kate is a legend in her own mind, and that is all. Worth poking fun at, not worth consuming my self with resentment.
I do worry about her children, but then, I know people that have had similar parenting and managed to become a better person for it--some of them post here. For his many faults, Jon seems to provide a consistency and unconditionally loving presence in their lives. Since his custody time has increased, he will have more influence in their lives, and, as they get older, they will experience healthy families and relationships.
Living with Kate when she isn't getting what she wants must be holy hell--the less time she spends with them, the better. It is a very long way from Kate's imagination to an actual reality show. If that happens, then I will reconsider my own participation. There is nothing interesting about watching a raging narcissist with 8 children between the ages of 8-11. Public school teachers routinely teach classes of 24-36 students, for more hours a week than they are home. With shared custody, Kate is willing to film their every waking moment that they are with her. Hyenas have better parenting skills than her. Watching adults treat each other badly, and deal publicly with addictions and mental illness is a far cry from displaying an abusive parent actively damaging her children. What network would want to touch her with a ten foot pole?
My two cents about the Kate snark is pretty much what the others have said. You put yourself in the public eye, you open yourself and your life up to scrutiny and criticism. Funny that Kate happily takes the praise heaped upon her by total strangers yet chooses to completely ignore the detractors.
Fame is a two sided coin and you can't just choose one side. You take the whole thing or you leave the whole thing. Kate, obviously, wants it all.
The other thing is, there are so many of us who clearly see the emotional damage her children have suffered. It's all there on film. Mostly from our own personal experiences, we understand the deep hurt she causes her children. We choose to say, publicly, that it's not right.
I don't care if by the letter of the law what she has done is not considered abuse. I really don't, I know in my heart that it is and I will say so.
Racism was still racism even when there were no laws against it.
readerlady said... 78 As long as she dresses in slutwear, wears a hairstyle designed to call attention instead of being becoming, and behaves like an idiot, no one is going to be interested in hiring her. =====
...which is probably why McDonalds tore up her resume and threw it in the trash can.
Pj's mom: it makes you wonder if, Kate used these friends as: friends with benefits(especially Jamie). I find it odd that with a big house, you have your friend, who flys in, sleeps in the same bed with you. Lonely much: friend with benefit? Sorry, people, when I had friends from out of town stay over, I gave them a place to sleep and it was not my bed, with me in it, they got their own bed to sleep in. I can understand if you have a small place, with maybe no couch, but if I had a small place and a couch, I would give my bed to the guest and sleep on the couch. Kate's answer to that cause one of the twins were asking, was: oh, it's just like a sleep over. Yeah, right, 2 gown 30 something women, who are moms. Everybody does that, yeah, right! Kate might be BI, or as a lot were saying then it's just sex! Friends with benefits. I also find it odd that a woman with 3 kids, would rather spend time with a woman in another state& travel with, her & her 8 kids, dress alike, etc. I do see what you mean a stand in for Kate.
Personally, I don't care what people do in their bedrooms, long as it is not child abuse, do what you want. But, because Kate spoke about it, almost bragged about it, makes you wonder.
I am no fan of Kate's, but if Jon is behind the apparently nasty tell all (Gosselin book.com) then he is worse. You have to love your kids more than you hate each other. And they BOTH exploited them. Jon only backed out when he no longer had financial gain. Jon may well be more likeable but if hes behind the book? Ouch...those poor kids.
This is not "A MINOR CONSIDERATION". If Paul Petersen were to start commenting on Kate's tan, hairstyle, etc...on that site, it would look a bit inappropriate.
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My post was in direct response to someone's claim that people here (she used "we" not "I" so she was not speaking solely for herself) watch Kate to "monitor" her and to be the "voice" for the children. Snarking on Kate is not done in the name of advocating for her children. That was, and is, my point. Don't try to couch snark as some noble calling.
That sound you hear is the last nail in her coffin! http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/kate-gosselin-new-reality-show_n_1536438.html?ref=celebrity
Just saw this on Huffington Post ... Sounds like Kate Gosselin needs a serious reality (TV) check. LOL - You Think?
"A spokesperson for WE tells me Kate will not be calling that channel her new home, and Oxygen and Lifetime insiders says they have no interest in Kate either."
I must admit I started (just a tad mind you) to feel a little sorry for Kate yesterday. I'm not sure if it was the obvious desperation or how nervous and uncomfortable she looked in both interviews so anyway today I went to YouTube and watched a five minute ugly moments from j&k+8 clip. All cured now. I did notice the "not again" eye roll in the IE interview when asked if filming the kids was harmful.
It's funny, with Preesi's Gosselin site closing, it makes me nostalgic, in a way. I have been reading this blog and others for years. Hard to believe that I can say that it's been years, but it has been.
I can remember watching the show in the early years and some of Kate's behaviors or comments didn't sit right. Long story short after reading many blogs (for and against Kate) I found this one. I've seen posters come and go and I have taken breaks at times too, still lurked but have stopped posting as much. Not for lack of interest,but because I didn't have anything useful to contribute.
I have to say this is one of the best Gosselin blogs IMHO. Every one here has always been polite and agreeable (not the trolls of course). There feels like a true kinship among the posters here.
So what if we snark, so what if we mock Kate, so what if we mock Rat Claw. That is part of what makes this blog so enjoyable. We can snark, we can be serious and we get along.
Okay, I'll get my hormones back in check (can anyone tell which poster has PMS LOL). Enough of me being mushy and emotional. Just wanted you all to know you're great!!
I just went to the Huffington Post link. Oh my, the comments are scathing. I do feel sorry for her. Who could absorb all these insults and the negativity without scar tissue?
No wonder she is silent today. There is nothing to say. If she does not see reality -- as defined by the rest of the world -- and change, there is no hope in her dark, dark world.
I agree the 'friendship' with Jamie was a little contrived. I think they were casual friends- I mean, they lived in different states and Kate was busy with the show, the kids, BFF Beth etc, so she wouldn't have time to maintain a true friendship. I think TLC had to come up with someone to play off Kate on trips when Jon left, or she'd be talking to herself. Steve was more in the background.
I also think she got paid- and that Jamie is a little plain in looks, although has Kate's coloring-maybe Kate's idea to use her so she wouldn't be upstaged like she felt Jodi did, maybe Beth too...the similar outfits and the sleeping arrangements were weird- she mentioned it in the Philly epi iirc- I don't think Kate likes men- there could be something there- I think Jamie does not have primary custody of her 3 children so had time for Kate. I agree if it was a true 'relationship' that developed that's up to them, but there are indications that it might have been.
WOWSER....Those comments at Huffington post are pretty brutal....If I was her(and I thank God I'm not)I would be afraid to leave the house. People are soooo angry with her for trying to pimp those kids out again. From the sound of it....the public has had it with her. Is she living under a rock? Maybe she should leave the country and start anew
Aggiemom -- hey! I see that your name is in blue now. I was so proud when I figured out how to do an account.
I am just a normal person. I would be buried in grief if I read so many negative and unkind comments about myself. Not just here, but all over the internet.
She needs a really, really good friend to help her find a pathway out of this wicked mess she calls her "crazy world". (And, to give her a hug and let her cry for awhile.)
She has eight children (as she frequently reminds us) who need a stable and balanced mother.
Yesterday, she tried. She had a slim chance. Sorry.
lol, poor Kate. Don't worry though, she'll be back on twitter tonight, when the kids get home! She's either on her way back to PA now (limo, of course, kids only want her to have the best), or she will skulk in tonight after the kids are put to bed.
Right @ 91, I guess you enjoy our snarking, then, if you come here to read it and comment on it?
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Good point about Kate not even being asked about her own non-existent love life. Give me a break with the Steve crap. She has no one. She's lonely as hell, but she always will be because she's a terribly unhappy, horrible person who doesn't know what a real give and take relationship is.
posted a personal thank you to you earlier concerning the google acct stuff, but it sounded dorky so I deleted it. I am the proud owner of a trashcan. Thanks, Dmasy!
LisaNH said... 97 It's funny, with Preesi's Gosselin site closing, it makes me nostalgic, in a way. I have been reading this blog and others for years. Hard to believe that I can say that it's been years, but it has been.
I can remember watching the show in the early years and some of Kate's behaviors or comments didn't sit right. Long story short after reading many blogs (for and against Kate) I found this one. I've seen posters come and go and I have taken breaks at times too, still lurked but have stopped posting as much. Not for lack of interest,but because I didn't have anything useful to contribute.
I have to say this is one of the best Gosselin blogs IMHO. Every one here has always been polite and agreeable (not the trolls of course). There feels like a true kinship among the posters here.
So what if we snark, so what if we mock Kate, so what if we mock Rat Claw. That is part of what makes this blog so enjoyable. We can snark, we can be serious and we get along.
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Question for you and everyone else saying this: Are you teaching your children that it is okay to mock people as long as you have determined that they "deserve" it? Are you teaching your children that they are not responsible for their words and actions directed at other kids who "put themselves out there?" Using your logic, it is OK to laugh at the kid who gets on stage and sings despite not having the best voice, because she put herself in a position to be mocked.
Is it really any wonder that cyber bullying is so rampant among children? They are following the lead of adults who consistently excuse their own behavior.
I am glad to see those that they say they felt sorry for her yesterday, because I did too. She appeared very depressed and near tears. I made up my mind then if she got a cook book out I would buy it to help the kids. I have been reading of course and fired off my snark but left without posting it. Which I am sure when she goes back into manic phase I will be right back on it. But something held me back and I thought back to how PB got her so rattled on the the RV episode over the stupid pizza and just said a little prayer that he wasn't messing her with already delicate psyche on a press day. It appeared that she was looking off to the side for approval and perhaps not getting it and/or that she was more concerned with what was going on off camera than on. She just wasn't on her game. And I thought of how many times those cheery tweets were made while she was in the depths of despair, and how cold and heartless the house must be during those times for the kids. I am not sure she will be able to function without her celebrity status - maybe she wasn't getting it on the set, I don't know. Something was off, way off.
Question for you and everyone else saying this: Are you teaching your children that it is okay to mock people as long as you have determined that they "deserve" it? Are you teaching your children that they are not responsible for their words and actions directed at other kids who "put themselves out there?" Using your logic, it is OK to laugh at the kid who gets on stage and sings despite not having the best voice, because she put herself in a position to be mocked.
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First, I can't be shamed into not criticizing or snarking on Kate. So just know that from here on out, this type of getting up on a soapbox and preaching just doesn't do a thing to me.
Secondly, my grown child has no idea what I say online. So that's completely moot.
Third, a kid in a talent contest at school isn't exactly a PUBLIC FIGURE. What about that do you not understand? Kate wants to be a public figure and was one in the near past. She's fair game to criticize.
End of story.
And just because you enjoy reading the snarking and criticism so much, I'll add that I'm reading the comments on the Huffington Post article and wavering between choking with laughter and gasping in astonishment at some of their comments. Specifically the titles of future films she could do. And the new stage name she could have. Uncouth, but clever.
Check it out if you love Kate snark: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/kate-gosselin-new-reality-show_n_1536438.html
When the Today show came on yesterday, I watched in horror as she threw herself (for once) under the bus. And after seeing the IE clip, I have this overwhelming feeling that we all just saw someone self-destruct before our eyes. Both appearances were so completely awful--she looks terrible, her attitude seems toxic--I don't thing anyone is even thinking of her in terms of a reality show these days. If so, it would have happened by now. But if she was being considered for CA or DWTS, I think that seeing her yesterday put any consideration for either to rest. She doesn't have "it". I don't know if she ever did, but she sure doesn't now. She looked awful, her attitude was worse--all the shrugging, hand flipping, foot pumping, inarticulate, throwing her kids out there for a show...She seemed a little pi**ed off, too, like "Give me a damn show already, dammit!" There was some rage there under the fake smiles and eye rolls. We have been waiting for the end to come for her, and I really think yesterday's appearances signaled the end.
Right, 111 -- I do not think that I (and many others here) are excusing our behavior. I, also, do NOT think that we are bullies. (I do think that Kate is a bully!)
We are adults with opinions. Administrator has managed a site without obscene comments. We share info on topics other than Kate.
Kate has many detractors. She has invited us into her life and claims that it is the realest of real.
She has some fan sites, too. I don't post at any of them. I agree with most of the sentiments shared here.
Right -- if you continue to read here, I think that you will see some compassion for Kate creeping in.
We recognize that she bombed yesterday. We are reading horrible comments directed to her at other (reputable) sites.
We all understand that everyone is fail and human and has a breaking point. I could not withstand the negativity that is flying at Kate.
She has to keep it together -- 8 children depend on her.
I do believe that she built the sand castle that she is trying to live in. I think that she has sown some toxic seeds. I think that she needs to grow up and develop some maternal instinct.
All of us have had to face harsh circumstances and dark days. This is Kate's opportunity to find a better version of herself.
The truth is, whatever self-pity Kate may be indulging in right now (if, in fact, she's sentient enough to realize that there is no hidden "groundswell" of support beneath the not-veiled-at-all contempt the vast majority of people seem to have for her), she'll be all fake breeziness and flatitudes by tomorrow morning, and whyever not? After all, round about the middle of next week, she'll be jetting off to San Diego, Purseboy at her heels, to splash out with some spa, sushi, and spandex whilst (half-)running a half-marathon. She'll be gone for 4 or 5 days, enjoy first-class air and 5-star hotel, and, besides the run itself, will have little or nothing to ruffle her feathers. Ah, it's GOOD to be a child exploiter with plenty of money in the bank and imagination enough to "star" in your very own version of reality whenever the whim takes you.
Dream on, Kate, dream on. All good things. . . . And no, I don't feel sorry for her. She alone is responsible for wherever it is she finds herself today.
Sooooo funny...Radar says Kate took a "HIATUS" from her reality show and is ready to film again. Two questions.....!. What are they smoking over there? and 2. Who is she screwing to get such a positive and ridiulous article written about her?
Auntie Anne, if I end up destitute and unemployable I blame you! Why you ask? Because I during a video conference today one of the women at the video location swung her leg every time she spoke and I just could not stop laughing. Of course what she was saying wasn't crap, or at least most of it wasn't haha, but all I could think about was the little mind picture you had created. :)
That is sweet and humane that you would buy a cookbook by Kate even though you know it would be rubbish. But her kids don't need the money from book sales. They need a loving compassionate stable mother. Nothing we can do will help them get that. That's the sad part. Kate won't face the truth. We are all here for the kids in one way or another.
I think what you said proves that this blog has sympathetic concerned posters like yourself.
Why on earth are some of you being put on the defensive about saying what you say on this site and then feeling a need to explain why you say what you say?
This IS the internet. It is NOT a serious business. Ignore the trolls and do as you well please.
And stop reading on Bristol Palin, the young woman got a chance because of who her mother is and then she worked hard and took full advantage of the opportunity. She improved. Contrast that with Ms Kreider who took the opportunity and learned nothing from it and did not work hard at all.
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Didn't you agree that even Hitler would look better than Kate?
Not the best argument for Bristol Palin's dancing, IMO. ;)
"They really, honestly miss filming,” “They’ve recently been saying, ‘when are we going to go here or there?’ They miss the crew.”
Bull crap, They miss being stuck at home with Momster; Spring Break spent in the basement, no movies or even a day trip while mom flies around the country. They miss the pampering, 5 star hotels, first class travel, restaurants, head of the line admission, and special treatment. As soon as school is out, those kids will be back at work! BIOTCH!
She's on Radar Online again and they're hinting something is around the corner - and I'm sure there is. UGHHHH
KAT said... 120 Sooooo funny...Radar says Kate took a "HIATUS" from her reality show and is ready to film again. Two questions.....!. What are they smoking over there? and 2. Who is she screwing to get such a positive and ridiulous article written about her? ---------
I do not like Kate and I will never apologize for snarking on her. She is an adult person with a functioning brain and has made her own choices. The rest of the world owes her nothing for her choices, nor support in any way, shape or form. If you put your bad choices out there for public consumption, you need to deal with the backlash.
I do not come here and tell others how to think or feel, nor do I appreciate the trolls/fans/whatever trying to do so. Return to your fan boards and peddle your brand of denial there. I'm tired of reading it here.
Admin, please KEEP this board on moderation. If you need additional help with moderating to ease the burden, I hereby volunteer--as I'm sure many other of the regulars would.
Loved the Huffington article, btw. Maybe someday this stuff will sink into Kate's pea brain and she'll "get it".
Loving all the headlines about Kate and Jon settling their feud "behind the scenes". I've been wondering where Hilary Clinton has been! Now that she has negotiated a peace plan for the Gosselins, she can turn her attention to the minor kerfuffles in the world, like brokering a peace plan in the Middle East.
Michelle Theoret @zedtheoret @Kateplusmy8. At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life if people hate you for that...ohwell!! Retweeted by Kate Gosselin --------
Sorry it's the other way around if she didn't have her kids.
She wouldn't be who she is or where is she and she wouldn't have what she has.
I find it pathetic (and ironic) that Kate says she and Jon settled stuff 'behind the scenes'...well first off, do tell, Kate, cuz you tell ALL about your kids (tween bra shopping ring a bell?), so why not tell us all the details about your behind the scenes stuff? And second, who says 'behind the scenes'...Kate, your life is not a reality show, as much as you would like it to be. And third, anytime SHE doesn't want to discuss something, it's personal (her first boyfriend and living with him, losing her virginity,etc), but she will blab ALL about her kid's private stuff. The woman only has a filter for herself. She knows how filters work, she chooses to only use one for herself.
Someone mentioned upthread how 'lost' Kate looked while being interviewed, that she was looking off screen, etc...you think maybe she was looking at someone else? (maybe ol' Steve wasn't there perhaps?)
Hollywood Life is stating the producers of DWTS will ask Kate Gosselin to return for the all star season but will only use her as a last resort if needed. That is if no one else wants it. They said because everyone hated her and her diva ways. LOL!!!
(This is Remona) PatK said... 129 I do not like Kate and I will never apologize for snarking on her. She is an adult person with a functioning brain and has made her own choices. ~~~~ AMEN! Kate made her own choices, and so will I, as I happily snark away!! In my opinion, her behavior deserves any and all snarks and the comments of those who dislike her and everything she does!! Remona
They miss being stuck at home with Momster; Spring Break spent in the basement, no movies or even a day trip while mom flies around the country. They miss the pampering, 5 star hotels, first class travel, restaurants, head of the line admission, and special treatment -------- Kate's lying. Those kids could not care less about it. I bet they are relieved it's over.
It's KATE that misses the filming and the trips. As far as missing the crew, gee Kate, you think IF you got a new show, you would have the SAME crew? what an idiot she is.
Lots of good comments today. Still no tweeting from Kate, guess I was right...she is on her way back from NYC, probably get in when the kiddies are in bed. If she gets back before they turn in, be prepared for tweeting, cuz she doesn't like to interact with the kids.
Oh geez, Peace Love World, get it RIGHT, wouldja? I am going to need SIX (6), count 'em, SIX MATCHED outfits, not just two. (Oh and I've attach a list of the OTHER items I will be needing.)
Peace Love World @peaceloveworld @Kateplusmy8 Happy Birthday to the Gosselin twins! We love to see them in our tees! http://pic.twitter.com/wEEQYw7B
2m Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 @peaceloveworld aww thanks but did u mean Gosselin sextuplets? Lol.We love your tees, back packs and lunch boxes too wear/use them often!
Right said: "Question for you and everyone else saying this: Are you teaching your children that it is okay to mock people as long as you have determined that they "deserve" it?"
Yes. That's exactly what I teach my kids. Because I do teach my kids to think for themselves. And to learn to recognize snake oil peddlers when they see them. (might they be politicians, church leaders, social activists, self-appointed self-help gurus, reality stars, etc.) And to mock them. And, by all means, drive them out of town. And if it takes snark to do it, well so be it.
As for the second part of your question, Right, i.e. "Are you teaching your children that they are not responsible for their words and actions directed at other kids who "put themselves out there?" Using your logic, it is OK to laugh at the kid who gets on stage and sings despite not having the best voice, because she put herself in a position to be."...
No. I do teach my kids to be responsible for their words and opinions, negative or positive, popular or impopular: they should always be able to stand for what they believe in.
But I also teach them to always thread lightly around an "out there" person who is sincere, thruthful, and pure of heart...
That's what I believe in. That's also why I feel no remorse whatsoever for my participation in "Kate snarking". She is the false prophet of motherhood. And she should be shamed to silence.
He didn't tell Kate what he thought of her when he was on with Kelly Rippa, and Kate did her stupid show and tell, knocking Jon. But it was obvious that he did not admire her.
Now on his own show, he doesn't hold back. I doubt he will ever have Kate on his own show, but if he did, I think he would really blast her.
There was a woman on his show today who is a pageant mother who believes in plastic surgery and breast enlargement for her daughter, and took photos of her 7-year-old daughter dancing on a pole, and Anderson said to her:
"I think you are dreadful. I honestly don't have anything more to talk to you about." And she left his stage!
NT said... 133 Hollywood Life is stating the producers of DWTS will ask Kate Gosselin to return for the all star season but will only use her as a last resort if needed. That is if no one else wants it. They said because everyone hated her and her diva ways. LOL!!!
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You know, I'm at the point where I really don't care if they have her back on DWTS. I'll probably be ready for more of her making an ass of herself by then and will thoroughly enjoy watching every minute of it...as short as it will be. Then she can go back into obscurity.
Michelle Theoret @zedtheoret @Kateplusmy8. At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life if people hate you for that...ohwell!! Retweeted by Kate Gosselin --------
Sorry it's the other way around if she didn't have her kids.
She wouldn't be who she is or where is she and she wouldn't have what she has.
The kids made her not the other way around.
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[Excerpt] "At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life"
What a flawed conclusion. Sheeple logic is so convoluted.
Who cares if the children's privacy, and childhoods are robbed. Or too bad if they are the laughing stock of the school, neighborhood, state, and country- just as long as famewhore momster has a t.v. show.
How come Kate isn't complaining about peaceloveworld putting the tups picture on their twitter feed? I hope they are paying Kate royalties. Remember Em Tanner.
That Peace Love World stuff is expensive! I wonder how they got roped into Kate's grifting? Anyhow, I know the G kids all have that brand, but in the twit pic only one child seems to be wearing it.
Just what would Kate’s new show be about? Let’s see, a travel show with the Kids? Kate, you thought the Grand Canyon was a “waste of real estate” and you didn’t know who was on Mt. Rushmore. Let’s not even discuss the Alaska trip. Nope, nothing to do with travel because people watching travel shows actually want to know a little about the place you’re visiting. How about another show about your daily life? The kids are in school the majority of the day and just how many times can we watch them playing in the pool and listening to the “shrieks of delight”? Oh wait, you throw empty plastic eggs around for them to find. Yeah, that’s interesting. I guess we can always watch the kids cleaning up after the chickens and the dog. Nope, I can go out in my own backyard and do poop patrol. I’m at a loss Kate. What would this new show be about? WAIT I’VE GOT IT….she wants to be on a Real Housewives of Philadelphia! Quick someone call Andy Cohen.
Do the kids really miss filming? Doubtful. If they miss anything they are missing the back stage passes and tickets to any concert they wanted to attend, the luxury boxes at sporting events and other types of shows not to mention all the gifts that were waiting for them every time they attended anything and having everything shut down so that they’d have the place all to themselves and the trips. If they miss anything at all they miss being THE GOSSELINS instead of just the Gosselins. Welcome to the real world.
Kate, you’re not a star. If you were to be on any type of show that was not a reality show you’d only be paid scale. You’ve got nothing to back you up to be able to command anything higher than that. You’d never command the salary that you reportedly got from TLC and the perks wouldn’t be there.
Hollywood Life is stating the producers of DWTS will ask Kate Gosselin to return for the all star season but will only use her as a last resort if needed. That is if no one else wants it. They said because everyone hated her and her diva ways. LOL!!!
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Hollywood Life has no credibility whatsoever. They've been wrong and printed inaccurate information on the Kate saga nearly 100 percent of the time.
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 141 chefsummer said... 131
Michelle Theoret @zedtheoret @Kateplusmy8. At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life if people hate you for that...ohwell!! Retweeted by Kate Gosselin --------
Sorry it's the other way around if she didn't have her kids.
She wouldn't be who she is or where is she and she wouldn't have what she has.
The kids made her not the other way around.
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[Excerpt] "At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life"
What a flawed conclusion. Sheeple logic is so convoluted.
Who cares if the children's privacy, and childhoods are robbed. Or too bad if they are the laughing stock of the school, neighborhood, state, and country- just as long as famewhore momster has a t.v. show.
Brilliantly stupid --
Hey the sheep love their queen Kate forget the kids and the haters.
Just as long as Kate's happy that all that matters to them.-(sadly)
HAHAHAHA! How can anyone tell us not to snark on Kate on a blog that was specifically set up to call her (and jon) out?
That's plain silly.
Why not call out the crazies who are glued to twitter 24/7 (both sides) and actively engage in trying to push each others buttons? THOSE are the people who are shamefully awful, but the people her stay in their own yard and chat with like-minded buddies.
Go Anderson Cooper, go, go, go! I saw this "Barbie" idiot on the Today Show and it just pissed me off to no end that Ann Curry didn't say "look at your gorgeous daughter! What are you teaching her? That she's never good enough?" I wonder if giving her daughter vouchers for plastic surgery is some sort of Munchausen's . The mom loves the attention she's getting--fly across the Pond, go on various talk shows, hair and make up, blah blah blah all about yourself... and did you see the get up she wore on AC? WTF? She looked like a Vegas show girl.... at her 25 year reunion.
Notebook of Love @Notebook When something bad happens you have three choices. You can either let it define you, let it destroy you, or you can let it strengthen you!!
I have not read all of the comments yet, but I have to respond to Right #111. We are not talking about kids trying to find their talents and exert their independence in the things they want to try. We are talking about a 37 year old grown woman who keeps putting not only herself out there, but is forcing her children to do it, too.
Children learn as they grow. At one time I thought I could sing, dance, and do gymnastics. BVy the time I was 14 I knew I could dance and do gymnastics, but singing was another story. I used my strenghts, the same thing I taught my daughter.
In Kate's case, she refuses to acknowledge her shortcomings/weaknesses, and even refuses to try to excel at whatever strong points she might have. Instead, she just falls back on what worked for her the past 8 years: her kids. She needs her kids to make get back on TV and she knows it. It should not be the kids responsibility to give mom the TV exposure she desires.
Kate has also had more undeserved opportunities to showcase herself, but she never did it. It seems she refused to acknowledge her weaknesses and try to improve them. And she also proved she did not like ANY constructive criticisms, on DWTS or otherwise. You need only to watch her shows, interviews, and DSTS to see this.
Kate is the one who put herself out there, Kate is the one who refused to show any respect to other people, Kate is the one who refuses to change any of her negative attributes; therefore, Kate has no one to blame but herself.
Also, Right, as far as bullying goes, all you have to do is watch J&K+* or Kate+8 to see a true example of a bully. Kate bullied Jon and her kids for years. There is not a compassionate or loving bone in her body. And I have every right to come to this conclusion after watching what she called "the realist reality show out there" for years. It's her words, and ultimate actions, not mine.
Notebook of Love @Notebook When something bad happens you have three choices. You can either let it define you, let it destroy you, or you can let it strengthen you!! ******* Bumper sticker affirmations are about as deep as Kate gets. She truly feeds off that crap, which means nothing. Here's one for Kate- Walk the walk-- with your "Gosselins give back" and your "traditions".
Please excuse my typos in the previous posts. I'm not going to keep apologizing for typing too fast, I assume you all know what I mean. If not, then I'll clarify!
A facebook friend who lives in the area happened to have seen her picking up her kids at the bus stop in her "paparazzi attire" . How many mothers pick up their kids at the bus stop in a glitzy outfit and hooker shoes.
Just my two cents -- on this blog we express our opinions, and if snark gets in here, then so be it. Kate puts it out there; we comment on it. For the life of me I can't understand why a woman who was attractive, natural, fresh and perky would take herself and do what she did to her physical appearance. Obviously someone told her that this Cali Barbie look is what Hollywood wants. However, I still maintain that her makeover had much to do with Jon and the divorce. She figured she'd tan, boxtox, have a boob engorgement, whatever, so she could flaunt it at him, saying, "Look at me, this is what you are missing. You gave all of this up." It's ironic, then, that his long relationship was with a gal who was fresh and natural looking with no implants or fried hair. The plastic look was not what he wanted.
I agree with Readerlady about the "other" blog, GWOP. I read there on occasion, posted there with respect, but my posts never saw the light of day. What's puzzling is that if a blogger sees errors in posts, tries to correct them, they never go through, I guess for fear of stepping on toes or creating dissension among the troops. And yet, posts from an "insider" who hold more jobs than a pharmacy has pills, continue to have his/her posts put through. It makes no sense.
Notebook of Love @Notebook When something bad happens you have three choices. You can either let it define you, let it destroy you, or you can let it strengthen you!!
Or four: Why don't you let it give you a clue??? __________________________________
A tweeter by the name of Chablis called Kate out on all of her RETWEETING and CONSTANT patting herself on the back. I was going to copy/paste them here, but they appear to have been deleted earlier today. And, yet, I just looked at her twitter feed and there she is again with 4-5 RETWEETS.
Shocked to see her as an AOL story via Huffington, but I had to comment on it. You are DONE, Kate. And you have no one but yourself to blame.
Response to Huffington Post. (Apologies to Steely Dan):
Insert foot stomp and hand wave as appropriate:
"Networks! You aren't listening to ME! My kids want trips! They miss the (ever changing) crew! They miss being pulled out of school to film! The crew are their only friends, because I won't let MY kids mix with hoi polloi. (pedophilic editor you ask? Meh).. You are RUINING their social development. Don't you get it?
My FANZ! You are killing them! They are beside themselves DEMANDING to watch MY kids grow up. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? You are completely ruining the lives of a half dozen innocent people, my poor, poor fans.
I ask, no, I DEMAND that you contact me tout de suite to make arrangements for my new show."
I feel the same way about many of the regular posters here. I come here, daily, for the ladies (and the one or two men) who express themselves so well. I am also entertained. And, I have learned so many things I didn't expect!
If/when Kate fades away, I hope we all find a way to stay together.
Bumper sticker affirmations - that describes the shallowness that is KateG perfectly. And i guess after her less than wonderful performances in NYC yesterday ( insert eye roll), that is all she really has - a life full of bumper sticker retweets.
School is ending, the kids get pool time and she gets to vacay in San Diego - so sad they will not be treated to a weekend there, a small summer treat. Bitch has the money, 3 hair fries would buy air fare.
Admin has never stalked Kate or her fans on twitter. This blog has gained tremendous respect because of her ethics.
But when a hater stalks Kate and her fans on twitter, makes rude and crude comments to Kate's fans over an extended period of time WHILE AT WORK, how can they pretend to be a victim? The hater has a horrible record and should have been fired several years ago.
Instead of asking why a family would get her fired for her mischief, why doesn't she ask herself why she continued to provoke when she was clearly wrong?
SHE is the one who shoulda stepped back and examined her actions. She's NOT. She's rolling in self-pity for no valid reason.
THIS blog was set up to snark on Kate. With the exception of a few misfits we hang here and chat only in places where we are welcome.
Why do people CHOOSE to act inappropriately, then blame it on the person they stalked when that person fights back?
I think the "thing" that was off during her interview was that STEVE was NOT THERE. She had zero confidence. Either he just told her this was his LAST TRIP or he was MIA.
Got my Globe magazine today, here's the article about Kate.
Kate Gosselin's Titanic Blunder
Realtity TV mom Kate Gosselin is shattered in the wake of the cancellation of her celebrity cruise.
The former star of the TLC show Kate Plus 8 was set to host an Aug. 12 trip on Royal Caribbean's Allure of the Seas ocean liner; but sales of tickets - which ranged from $1,900 to $3,175 - were so weak, the entire trip was sunk.
"That event has been canceled," says a cruise line rep. "We just didn't get the turnout that we desired and mutually we agreed that if we didn't get it, we would cancel."
The 37 year old - who also appeared as a contestant on Dancing withthe Stars - is said to be devastated and even contacted ticket holders, who received refunds.
"Kate asked for everybody's names, addresses and phone numbers and reached out to each one personally," the spokesperson adds.
"It was nothing to with her. We needed to hit certain numbers and they just weren't where they needed to be."
I agree with everyone that said the kids don't miss filming, Kate does. How can she possibly think that the rest of America just sits and waits to see where her and her children will travel next? How out of touch can she be?
If the kids really ask when are we going here or there, then it's Kate's responsibility to tell them when they can afford the vacation and they (she) has to save for it. She needs to explain that most families do NOT get to go on 4 all expenses paid vacations every year. Personally, I don't believe the kids are really asking for this, I think it's Kate.
Also, what makes her think her kids are more special than any other child that asks mom and dad if we can go to Disneyland? Or Six Flags? Or a water park in Florida?
Kate and her children have travelled to more places in the last 4 years than I have travelled to in my lifetime and I'm 55. I don't miss not going to these places, but I can't understand why Kate thinks her and her children are entitled to this.
The rest of us work, support our children, pay our taxes, and vacation when we save the money for a place we can afford. It's so unbelievably self-centered for her to think that she and her family deserve a TV show so they can get all of these things for free.
Kate, please grow up and face the "real" reality of life with kids.
Tamara -- lol! I hope you don't end up destitute I will feel awfully guilty, but if you do you can come stay with me. We can critique (i.e. point and laugh at) leg-pumpers as a team. BTW out of curiosity did she quit pumping when she wasn't speaking like Kate? I'm sure body language experts have something to say about that.
I'm not criticizing anyone who is feeling sorry for Kate but I don't. Every time things don't go her way she runs crying to someone like Meredith or Natalie. That stunt doesn't work on me anymore. She's just a big spoiled narcissistic brat. Sheeple me once shame on you Kate. Sheeple me twice...
Right said... 111 LisaNH said... 97 It's funny, with Preesi's Gosselin site closing, it makes me nostalgic, in a way. I have been reading this blog and others for years. Hard to believe that I can say that it's been years, but it has been.
I can remember watching the show in the early years and some of Kate's behaviors or comments didn't sit right. Long story short after reading many blogs (for and against Kate) I found this one. I've seen posters come and go and I have taken breaks at times too, still lurked but have stopped posting as much. Not for lack of interest,but because I didn't have anything useful to contribute.
I have to say this is one of the best Gosselin blogs IMHO. Every one here has always been polite and agreeable (not the trolls of course). There feels like a true kinship among the posters here.
So what if we snark, so what if we mock Kate, so what if we mock Rat Claw. That is part of what makes this blog so enjoyable. We can snark, we can be serious and we get along.
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Question for you and everyone else saying this: Are you teaching your children that it is okay to mock people as long as you have determined that they "deserve" it? Are you teaching your children that they are not responsible for their words and actions directed at other kids who "put themselves out there?" Using your logic, it is OK to laugh at the kid who gets on stage and sings despite not having the best voice, because she put herself in a position to be mocked.
Is it really any wonder that cyber bullying is so rampant among children? They are following the lead of adults who consistently excuse their own behavior.
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No I don't teach my children it's okay to mock people because they deserve because I don't have any children.
And what does snarking about Kate Gosselin have to do with cyber bullying? No one here has done anything to harm Kate (she's done a fine job of doing that to herself), no one here has threatened her or intimidated here.
This is a blog where people express their opinions, that's all it is.
JudyK said, "A tweeter by the name of Chablis called Kate out on all of her RETWEETING and CONSTANT patting herself on the back. I was going to copy/paste them here, but they appear to have been deleted earlier today. And, yet, I just looked at her twitter feed and there she is again with 4-5 RETWEETS.
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Chablis is one of the non-fans blocked by Kate some time ago. It's doubtful if Kate even saw the tweets calling her out.
LoveMyGrandsons, 171 -- what you said is so right and so logical.
I wish Kate would read your sentence about other children asking to go to Disneyland. I wish she would read that and understand how unrealistic she is.
I don't teach my kids to mock people but I sure teach them to beware of scammers. Especially repeat scammers. The funny part of it is my oldest son had Kate's number long before I did. He told me what he thought of her about the third episode of season one.
Like I said in a previous post, if Kate had half a brain in her head, she would utilize her "oh so great" couponing and savings skills to find trips to go on that wouldn't cost a whole lot of money. There are a ton of websites out there in cyber space that you can find good deals on.
But no, Kate wants everything to be comped by a television network. Maybe she's mad that Coupon Cabin isn't comping any trips (or anything else) so that's why she's not overly enthusiastic about blogging for them or discussing their new app on a national morning program?
Thank you, Dmasy. You know, my grandsons are at a perfect age to enjoy Disneyland, but their parents nor we can afford it right now. One day, I hope we can.
Should I ask for a TV show that will send us there free of charge? I think my grandsons are gorgeous and would look great on TV and they each have their own personalities that crack us up sometimes. However, I don't want that for them. I want my grandsons to have their anonymity and enjoy their childhoods without cameras. Too bad Kate doesn't feel that way.
I sometimes wonder why it is so important for someone Kate's age to still be blonde when she's not really a blonde. Don't most people grow out of experimentation or whatever you call it by there 30s? I've only colored my hair a few times, nothing drastic and I am almost certain after you dye your hair so much it will in the end ruin it. I don't think hair was meant to, I'm going to say suffer because her hair just looks so miserable.
Actually so does her face. If she was as happy as she claims to be you'd think it would show more but all she's got is this almost permanent look about her. My second grade teacher used to say if you kept your face like that it would get stuck like that...starting to think some of that might be true.
She's not going to get another reality show, stop begging already.
More she spends on herself the less she'll have in the long run. And it will be nobody's problem but her own. Jon was right, by the time her kids are grown and gone she'll wonder, maybe why she didn't enjoy things back then. At least I would hope so. You never see her actually play with her kids. Of course my parents did play with me either and to tell you the truth, it was quite sad. Kids love that they love to invite you to their world, their games at least for a little while before they become teenagers and want nothing to do with you until they're 20 something again.
CaseyDog said... 169 I think the "thing" that was off during her interview was that STEVE was NOT THERE. She had zero confidence. Either he just told her this was his LAST TRIP or he was MIA. --------
Or they refused to serve pizza wrapped in tin foil for breakfast.
And Steve had to get out of there leaving Kate all alone.
Marie, you are so right, it's the little things that count with kids. My grandsons (4 & 5) will adk me to play frisbee or kickball with them, and I do it(it's actually pretty funny to see me running for the ball!). One of the sweetest things was my older grandson asked for a dill pickle and we each ate a dill pickle at the kitchen table.
Then I was out on the deck and my younger grandson asked me to come eat a dill pickle with him like I did with xxxxx. I went inside and we sat next to each other at the table and ate our dill pickles. He put his chubby arm around my neck and had the biggest smile on his face. That was all that he wanted, my attention. And I love to give it to them!
Sorry that I keep relating everything to my grandsons, but they are my pride and joy!
I don't care what anyone says to the contrary. If Kate knows she is despised by 99% of the viewing audience, is acutely aware of how many people post negative comments after she appears on TV, it has to screw with her head in the most negative way possible. Imagine walking around your community knowing that people really didn't respect or like you. She must get side glances here and there. It can't just be everywhere but PA that feels this way.
Her "they're just jellus" thoughts in an attempt to combat the negativity will wear her down eventually. And it is. When you think that way, you shut people out and feel that you are different. You get a false feeling of superiority. But everything based on false perceptions will surely come around to bite you in the ass. It always does. What we are seeing now is the cracking of that cold, hard shell she was so proud of, her thick skin she loved to brag about. She has finally been defeated and the world is closing in on her. How I wish she had more insight into her behaviour. Like others on this blog, I do not hate Kate. But I hang around here to watch this most interesting case study of how a nobody got celebrity status so quickly and then lost it as quickly as she got it. All for money, fame and adulation. If you watch shows where they do stories on kids who want to make it big in the entertainment industry, they all have the same dream. To be idolized and sought after. But Kate always knew deep down that she never measured up to the big players. Inside, she will always be that insecure little girl who doesn't think she belongs in the big league. That defeating thought truly was her undoing. Kate, read Self-Esteem by MacKay and Fanning. It will change your life. And show us that the Gosselins Can Give Back even though you might not have the energy after you do your daily marathon training runs. Ack. I was being nice there for a minute and then remembered who I was talking about.
CaseyDog said... 169 I think the "thing" that was off during her interview was that STEVE was NOT THERE.
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I really do think there's something to this that we haven't yet explored. A secret that leaves her dead-eyed and numb.
Think about how odd it was that neither interviewer asked about Kate's love life. Up to this point, she's been open and quasi-optimistic (if not also teary-eyed) in talking about the possibility of a romantic relationship. (Remember her Dr. Drew interview, for example?).
Was the topic off-limits this week? And if so, for what reason? (Can you say Purse Boy? I knew that you could.)
Just looked at ROL and the article about Kate being ready for another reality show. Wow, have things changed. A year ago, half the comments were supportive, half were not. Now, all of them are negative. Amazing. Never thought I would see the day.
I have mixed feelings about Anderson Cooper's show today. I admire his intelligence, but he is in the entertainment business now, a choice he has made. This Barbie woman is an obvious manipulator, but I believe he could have made his point without ending his interview with her. Yes, she was disingenuous and he is disgusted by her parenting, but he still has an obligation to be a professional. He can ask the tough questions, expose people for who they really are, while remembering these people are his invited guests. So, I imagine he will reflect on his actions today because he is smart enough to do so.
Now, on to Kate. Something was off in her interviews yesterday, especially the one with Ann Curry on the Today Show. I suspect something threw her off before she even sat down with Ann. My guess is that she was told to stick to the script, (in this case the Coupon Cabin App.), and that pissed her off. She does not care about CC, she uses them for her convenience and did not want to waste her air time talking coupons. I believe she knows her opportunities to pitch (beg) for another show are quickly winding down. Whatever happened, it caused her to look desperate and close to being unhinged.
I was even taken aback with her reference to her up-coming half-marathon in San Diego. At some level she must know this is a step back in the running world. Once you run one marathon, you run the next one hoping to improve your time, not cut back to a half.
Her heart is not in to running, nor is it in couponing, or recipes. She wants back on television, that is the only thing that matters, period.
Even her talk about the half-marathon was strained. All runners who have done a marathon do the next one wanting to improve their time. Dropping back to a half-marathon is odd, and Kate seemed to
Kate's last tweet that she knows she's been quiet today. To me, it reeks of sadness, and I somewhat feel sorry for her.
I think it is all sinking in, finally, that she is not the star she thought she was, and I'm sure that has to hurt. The problem is she brought this all on herself. Had she listened to other people or really did some self examination, she might not be in this situation now. She may have had other opportunities that panned out, or had a back up plan in case the show didn't last forever. Alas, she didn't.
Once again, I know she has shown herself to be a very nasty person and brought all of this on herself, but a part of me still feels sorry for her. A bigger part of me feels even more sorry for the kids because they will ultimately feel the fallout from all of this.
Marie said... 180 I sometimes wonder why it is so important for someone Kate's age to still be blonde when she's not really a blonde. _______________________________________________
It's a Gosselin family tradition.
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Amy2 said... 170 Kate Gosselin's Titanic Blunder
Realtity TV mom Kate Gosselin is shattered in the wake of the cancellation of her celebrity cruise. "It was nothing to with her. We needed to hit certain numbers and they just weren't where they needed to be." ________________________________________________
The cancellation of the Katie Irene cruise due to lack of sales has everything to do with Katie.
LoveMyGrandsons, very nicely said. Under normal circumstances I would feel sad for the downfall of Kate but in reality I can't. I can't because I think of all the nice people Kate used and tossed aside because they were no longer of value to her. It is an interesting socioiological study on the price paid by Kate because of her ambition. I will continue to follow this saga (thank you Admin for this site) until it is played out to the end.
Sleepless (#175), trust me, Kate might have people on her Twitter feed blocked, but she responds enough to those who are being critical to suggest that she is all but glued to her twazzup feed, where ALL of it appears. The whole blocking thing is her way of trying to shield newbies on her Twitter feed. She has made clear on numerous occasions that she is well aware of what is being said by EVERYONE.
Is anyone buying the Hollywood Life story about Kate being a viable (but last-ditch) option for the DWTS All-Stars season? I am thinking no way, but if they've been seeking people for 6-8 weeks now, maybe they're not getting enough of the really talented runners-up? When I see all of the previous top contenders in the audience, like tonight, I think, NO WAY. But . . . she does seem to have little "angels" in various networks watching out for her. What say you all?
LoveMyGrandsons, you make me wistful for my grandma and childhood. She'd give us a little piece of dough to make tortillas but of course we had no rolling skills, so they came out all funny shapes, and not round like hers. She'd say, "Don't worry, mija (little one), they don't go in rolling!" She'd cook them and present them to us like they were the main course in a Zagat-rated restaurant. She taught us to crochet, make cobbler with the fruit we picked and so many other things. She french-braided our hair so tight that we could hardly close our eyes and on special occasions, she lined us up and did rag curls before she tucked us in, so we'd all have pretty hair for Christmas or whatever. She was really wonderful. I love that you delight in your grandsons in the same way. Thank you for taking me down memory lane!
Marie, Marie, Marie - I'm probably old enough to be your mother and I guess I didn't get over experminting in my 30's because I still dye my hair and it hasn't ended in ruin yet. I don't over process it as Kate does but I do dye and will probably continue to dye. Some of us just don't like the gray.
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Oh, and she's finally twitted about the CC iphone app.
I want to say this about Jon...he is a wild card as far if the kids are filmed again. After all he's been through, you would think he would stand up for what is right and put Kate where she belongs. Then again, he did get to taste the good life. I do see, though, if some of the kids decide to go into entertainment, both Jon and Kate would certainly encourgage it as they will make money but say it's what their child wants. Deep down they are both users and lazy.
I watched a clip. While I realize that adds to "hits," it doesn't add to ratings *per se*. I wasn't all that interested, frankly, I just wanted to see how she conducted herself. And I have to agree with Admin--she is PAINFUL to watch.
Why do you all think it's soooo important to her to be called 'hot'?
That comment seems to be what she lives for. You can see her breathe that in and absorb it into her being. It satisfies her and validates her existence. It makes her purr.
I'm trying to think what comment does that for me....and am coming up empty. Thoughts? What does it for you when someone says, "Oh, you're so xxxxx?"
She's still on twitter silence. I wonder if she's home yet. If she is home she's recovering from her hard working trip of self-promotion. I guess she thinks the only quality she needs to get a new show is for her look good. That's all she seems to be working on. I'm also guessing that she's doing the 1/2 marathon in SD because they would not let her cheat and she knows she would never be able to finish a full marathon. Wonder when she will leave for SD? Maybe she won't even go home!! Any guesses?
Maggie #191 I agree and thought the same thing. I was surprised she didn't mention on IE and the Today Show that Jon was now on board for the kids to film again.
Jon and Kate became addicted to the "big pay-off" that TLC was providing. Jon apparently didn't enjoy his position in the family, thus the running around began. They both had plenty of money for a time, then real life happened. They are lazy, greedy grifters, both of them. Don't fall for any of it. Let them find their own way again. Taking a few days off and visiting my dear brother's widow. Kate, believe it or not, some people in our society have real problems and still work and pay their own way every day without a "new show." Try it, you might like the freedom it brings.
If you were a producer looking for something for a new show, would you pick her? Probably not.
Those two clips were painful, in more ways than one. What about them said, oh! Here's someone that people will want to watch!
This used up, obviously miserable hag (not a word I'm using lightly) with a horrible reputation, proven by the film of her own show. What about her yesterday said pick me?
She radiated unhappiness, rage, hate with every fiber of her being. Who wants to work with that?
When is the SD marathon? BTW...I loved when she mentioned it on the Today show...you could barely hear her. She didn't sound that excited about it. Did anybody catch that?
WOW. I just now realized there was something missing from both interviews...a topic covered repeatedly (and in depth) on all recent shows.
To wit: There was no mention of dating, of pursuing/finding a romantic relationship with a man.
As recently as her Dr. Drew interview, she was talking openly (and at length) about her desire for male companionship--and, of course, the eight(count 'em, 8) obstacles to that.
Hmmmmm....was the topic considered off-limits, I wonder? And if so, why?
When did Jon say he was on board with filming? He said they would have to talk about it if I recall. That's what my parents said to me when they really meant NO. Lol.
I found the whole interview schedule to be strange. Why? How did she make the cut to the Today Show? She has so little to offer that is current.
A new show seems so unlikely to me. We already know everything about Kate. The children are no more or less interesting than any other 8-year-old. I don't think they can create audience participation by going to another remote, expensive location.
Mel, 4 -- your question is still rattling around in my head. Good one.
I watched the clip at the top of this topic. She seems nervous to me. Unprepared. Unexcited.
Even when her responses were positive, there was not deep enthusiasm or happiness. Her discontent is showing.
I do not watch anything with Ms Kreider on it. Only exception was DWTS because I love that show and watch it faithfully, no matter who is on. And stop reading on Bristol Palin, the young woman got a chance because of who her mother is and then she worked hard and took full advantage of the opportunity. She improved. Contrast that with Ms Kreider who took the opportunity and learned nothing from it and did not work hard at all.
I do not watch anything with Ms Kreider on it. I am not interested in the clips. I DO read here because the recaps and commentary about her appearances are so very funny and witty. Admin, thanks for such a great atmosphere here that encourages such creative, funny snark and sometimes serious commentary.
PS if you want to read something similar about American idol, check out vote for the worst. Hilarious!
Administrator, 7 -- you made me laugh. I had forgotten the response of "death" -- "Your father and I will talk about it." Really. It only meant that the no was delayed.
LOL. All they talked about on the IE interview was Jon! Everything the interviewer referred to included Jon. Yes she looks wasted again. Disdainful. Still throwing him under the bus while trying to sound positive. This is getting as boring as her begging for a new show. She is done
Tamara said...
I thought from scratch meant making something from it's full ingredient list instead of, say, heating up a frozen meal?
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That's exactly what I'd meant, Tamara.:)
I hadn't meant comparing cooking from scratch to eating out every night. I'd assume eating out would be the most expensive option compared to any of the others.
I'd meant is cooking from scratch cheaper than cooking from a huge selection of all the pre-made processed stuff sold at the store.
Perhaps it was confusing as the context was Kate referring to cooking from scratch compared to buying lunch at school. I wouldn't consider buying lunch at school the same thing as "eating out", really. And also would not consider putting a sandwich, an apple, etc. in a lunch back "cooking from scratch" either.
I'd meant"cooking from scratch" as opposed to making throwing together a casserole using canned soup, for example. Fresh versus processed.
Thanks Tamara:)
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I do NOT see Jon allowing the children to be filmed....as a group...on TV....other than for a possible one-time update show. And I even doubt he'd allow that. I think he is doing and saying what he can to combat nasty accusations Kate makes about him to the children and trying not to feed into it.
Is this just my opinion? Yes? But it's made after a great deal of observation of Kate's "parent alienator" behavior. Not only have I encountered other parent alienators in real life...but Kate's behavior, IMO, puts her flat-smack right there in that category.
IMO...Jon is playing the "well, we'll have to see" card....for the sake of the children. At this point, he's doing whatever it takes to minimize classic parent alienator behavior on the part of their mother.
One caveat to the above....I believe if one of the older twins down the road (high-school age) wanted to become involved in acting groups for teens....and let's say she was good enough to be in an off-broadway play and she really wanted to do it and was old enough to make that decision...that Jon might okay that. Because he would evaluate it in terms of whether it was or was not in the best interest of that child at that age.
But for the children now? My bet is that he will not allow them to be filmed and his comments are intentionally meant to be vague and to prevent even more parent alienator behavior from his ex-spouse and to "keep the peace" (plus the fact that he knows there are not likely any offers forthcoming anyway so why get Kate all riled-up for nothing).
I finally saw both interviews, and I thought she looked a little bit like a deer in the headlights. Maybe that's how she always looks during interviews. I don't know, but she did have that air of someone who had gotten emotionally smacked in the face and hadn't recovered yet.
She probably didn't get the royal treatment she expected, and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the hair or makeup people commented on the nasty condition of her skin and hair. Maybe she realized the NYC stylist isn't doing her favors? I dunno. I thought she looked like the emperor who just realized he wasn't wearing any clothes.
I'm also guessing that she had to sit in the green room with the tanning mom... Two overtanned really bad moms sitting together. OH, THE IRONY! Wonder what they talked about? Would Kate even acknowledge her presence, since we all know she is SO much better than everyone else? Did tanning mom tell her off? Who knows? Speculation on green room antics has me chuckling, though!
The interviews were so awkward, painful, and just horrible to watch. Ann Curry had to coax her through the entire thing. And in the IE interview, they had done something else really weird and colorful with her makeup, much different from the bland, corpse in the casket look she sports these days, but equally as horrendous. I almost felt sorry for her. ALMOST.
No 37 year old woman should look that old and miserable. I saw a pic of her in one of yesterday's articles from a year or two ago in a sleeveless dress with maybe an orange and pink pattern on it, and she looked stunning! How does this happen to someone so fast?
I take it back. I DO feel sorry for her.
Starz22 - You ask some interesting questions. I can't answer for anyone but myself, but -- I didn't watch and won't watch. KKs voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard for me. It makes me cringe and break out in gooseflesh. I don't visit her website -- never have and have no plans to, go to CC to read her "blog", nor read her twitter feed -- except for the ones posted at the top of this page. I don't seek out articles about her, although if one comes up on my homepage news feed or in a newsletter I subscribe for, I will read it. I read and post here, on Smalltown Gosselins, and read on GWOP. I used to post regularly on GWOP, but lately, everything I send is rejected with no explanation. Why do I follow KK? I guess it's partly the rubbernecker/trainwreck factor and partly hoping and praying to see her downfall. I read the blogs and post because I enjoy the civil discourse here and at Smalltown and can get a good laugh at some of the crap that makes it through the filters on GWOP. There are a number of intelligent, compassionate, witty, interesting posters here and I enjoy reading their comments and entering into the discussions. I'd miss that, if KK disappeared off the face of the earth and Admin shut the blog down. That is what keeps me coming back here, much moreso than any interest in what KK is doing.
Starz22 said... 192
I didnt watch kate today.But I see here that many did. I just have to ask....why give this woman an audience?
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Because abusers and child exploiters need to monitored.
She went on the today show and openly said she wants her kids on another reality show.
After viewing audiences have seen their naked bodies, seen them vomiting, seen their mother mock, ridicule,and deny them WATER, this woman needs a bright light on her ALL THE TIME.
She KNOWS TLC had a pedophile on their payroll editing every inch of film,and now she wants to put them at risk again with another reality show?
This is why we watch. Someone has to. Someone has to be their voice.
In both interviews she was either tired , hungover or on sedatives. She was about to fall asleep! And her skin looks bad.
The internet tabs picked up the pictures and a PR release describing her as hot. Believe me as someone who has worked in PR, the "hot" description was not the opinion of the writer but released by Kate and Steve. I am pretty much certain he took those off camera shots of her on The Today Show. Perhaps short dresses with big boobs is his idea of hot. To me she would fit right in with porn stars. She looks nasty.
Mel -- to comment on 2 of your posts. I agree with you that KK is a study in character affecting appearance. She's sort of "A Picture of Dorian Gray" in reverse.
What comment would do "that" for me? I think "You're so intelligent" or "You're so compassionate" might have that thrill factor for me.
I disagree that Jon is lazy. On the show, he was the one doing all the work. He's worked his butt off the last 2 years or so, also. That's not the hallmark of a lazy person. Passive -- yes, a user -- maybe, unfocused -- probably. Lazy -- no.
She KNOWS TLC had a pedophile on their payroll editing every inch of film,and now she wants to put them at risk again with another reality show?
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I need to clarify...this is why we watch HER...
Yes, I agree about Dorian Gray- mentioned that months ago- fits Kate's outer appearance and inner soul perfectly. Loved that book, but chilling truth in it...
I think Jon was maybe lazy or unmotivated before he met Kate re: career etc and enjoyed as idle lifestyle. But he really stepped up with all the kids he found himself father to, as seen on TV, and also with his jobs. But he was definitely taken for a ride by Kate and squashed into her mold. Then some of his plans got ruined ( working for Bob Carson) and also b/c of Kate's aspirations for the family and TLC etc etc Yes, some of the money and fame went to his head, but that could happen to many people...I think he has matured past lazy and vain and is trying to make his way in the world to be a good father and a happy productive person. Why should anyone fault him for that? traits?
oops, delete 'traits' I was proofing, not too well obviously. :?
Readerlady, 21 -- I agree with you regarding Jon. I think he is a nice guy. probably undeveloped when he met Kate. Swept into a whirlwind of "their crazy life".
I think he is growing out of a passive personality. He seems to need to have a companion in his life. He may be too easily influenced by a strong personality.
I don't think he is lazy. I think he adores those children and they are safer with his decisions than with the ones made by Kate.
TLC stinks said....
"...Perhaps short dresses with big boobs is his idea of hot...."
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Hey listen....short dresses and big boobs is a LOTTA GUYS' idea of hot....but to me, 1) I don't like the flat-hair look, 2) makes her face look too long...more of a "horse-face" look (which you don't want, esp. with large veneers) and 3) just makes her face look very drawn and it ages her.
I did NOT like her porcupine-do (on its own) but have to admit her face looked much prettier with it...more heart-shaped, maybe. I think she'd look much better with shorter hair....OR at least get some body and curls and a tad more height with this longer look. To me, it just looks like her hair is dirty and flat. Not a good look, IMO.
Of course....maybe this is in style. What do I know? But I don't think it looks flattering on her.
aggiemom09121416 said... 22
She KNOWS TLC had a pedophile on their payroll editing every inch of film,and now she wants to put them at risk again with another reality show?
This is why we watch. Someone has to. Someone has to be their voice. \-----
I need to clarify...this is why we watch HER...
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Right, that's why 90% of the comments are about her hair, clothes and overall physical appearance. Ask any social worker and they'll tell you that the first thing they do when checking out an abuse allegation is to note the appropriateness of the mother's hair color and style.
You all watch to snark. Claiming there is some "higher" motive doesn't change that very obvious reality.
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I can see your point, but I myself didnt watch and posted that I didnt. Not because I didnt want to give her ratings or anything, but only because she is gross. Mainly her voice gets on my nerves and her accent (it always has, even in the first 2 specials I wanted to reach into the TV and correct her language), along with her fake cougar looks.
I wont watch that Guilianna person either or whatever her name is. For the life of me I cant figure out what her claim to fame is that these networks hang all over her.But that's just me.
WOW. I just now realized there was something missing from both interviews...a topic covered repeatedly (and in depth) on all recent shows.
To wit: There was no mention of dating, of pursuing/finding a romantic relationship with a man.
As recently as her Dr. Drew interview, she was talking openly (and at length) about her desire for male companionship--and, of course, the eight(count 'em, 8) obstacles to that.
Hmmmmm....was the topic considered off-limits, I wonder? And if so, why?
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On a related note, she looks as if she's hiding something. Pressed lips, tight shoulders, narrowed eyes, crossed legs, etc....as if she's trying to hold back a secret.
She's a case study for Body Language 101.
I thought it was funny when Kate did her interview for IE to thing such out to me.
1. When the interviewer asked IF she was sure that TV was something she wanted to get back into.
She said
" Absolutely there's no um harm that can from it"
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2. When asked about Jon's GF
"I really don't pay attention to it".
"She can't control Jon decisions"
Right, 27 -- I admit that I have laughed at some of the very clever snarking here.
I think one of the reasons that Kate's appearance is a target is because she LIES. What she presents and what she says are opposites. Hence, the comments. She makes it too easy to analyze (and pick apart!) what she puts out there. The "good bra" is just an example.
Mandy said: And in the IE interview, they had done something else really weird and colorful with her makeup
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Mandy - I noticed in that interview that her face had 2 different colors. She was pale around her nose/mouth area, but her cheeks were bronze. It reminded me of Fred Flintstone's face. He always had a different color on the facial-hair area of his face. Maybe it was bad lighting? Or the makeup person did it on purpose?
I'm not understanding something....if she was there for CC, why did she hit the ground running with a plea for a new show? It sounded like a cry for help to get her out of that situation (her CC job). How insulting is that to her employer? She doesn't want to be on the Today show promoting coupons. She wants to be there to talk about how hot and loved she is. I'm suprised she didn't turn on the water works and get on her hands and knees while she begged. At least THAT would have been more honest
What is her IE interview? Where can it be found?
Sorry, I'm a bit slow here this morning. Thanks!
Right said... 27
Right, that's why 90% of the comments are about her hair, clothes and overall physical appearance. Ask any social worker and they'll tell you that the first thing they do when checking out an abuse allegation is to note the appropriateness of the mother's hair color and style.
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I am an LISW in the state of Ohio and YES the parents' physical demeanor (which includes their style of dress and self care) IS DEFINITLY part of the assessment.
Right, 27 and Dmasy, 31
Agreed! There's an obvious disconnect between her chirpy tweets/blog & the sour-faced woman who sat for the Today & IE interview. I suspect at least some of our observations are connected to that...an attempt to reconcile what what she says & what we see.
More telling than her eye roll on the IE video was her chin twitch! LOL Check out the chin twitch when they mention Jon's girlfriend. Bwahahahaha
Theres no harm that can come from it???? Even if there was..she could give a rats ass about it. She wants that damn money so she can parade around like she's better than everyone else. In the process, get paid for going on free trips. OMG..she's a piece of work or a piece of shit (whatever you prefer). I can't believe she expects that again...will not, can not, would not happen again....get on with it...enough is enough.. YUCK!
I wonder if Kate will ever admit her kids will eventually stop asking when they get to go, "here or there." I mean if that is seriously all her kids still talk about--we miss the crew, we want to travel, than she as a parent hasn't done a very good job in having prepared her children to move on from TLC and focus on other aspects of their lives. It's sad and unfortunate but i feel for Kate it was a real status symbol.
If she truly wanted to give her kids experience, opportunities she would do as she said and still take these kids anywhere regardless of every many she has as I quote, "We don't do anything different, this is our real lives." Real life before and after cameras however looks a whole lot different.
I can admit it. I watch to criticize her and snark. The bitch criticized Jon 24/7 on TV and humiliated him constantly. She only gets what she deserves IMO.
Admi.
You should put this one up
Here and Jon came to and agreement I wonder what that maybe.
They didn't show this part on TV it's way much more in this interview.
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http://www.insideedition.com/videos/1436/inside-edition-speaks-with-kate-gosselin.aspx
Marie, 39 -- well said.
If every family trip was dependent on a television crew and network budget, no one would ever go anywhere with their children. Kate just hasn't figured that out.
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I am an LISW in the state of Ohio and YES the parents' physical demeanor (which includes their style of dress and self care) IS DEFINITLY part of the assessment.
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So have you removed a child from the home because you didn't approve of the mother's hair color or style? Yeah, I didn't think so.
People are not commenting on Kate's hair and choice of dress out of concern for her children. Unless you are going for laughs, please don't try to make that claim.
Mandy said... 17...
I thought she looked a little bit like a deer in the headlights.
In the first interview, for sure. She acted like she had no idea what they were going to ask, and hadn't given any thought to how she might answer. Which is kind of stupid since they ask the same questions every time because there's been nothing new to talk about for the last 3 years.
Her answers didn't really make sense with what she was asked, which made the whole thing feel off-kilter.
she did have that air of someone who had gotten emotionally smacked in the face and hadn't recovered yet.
In that second interview for sure. You nailed it.
Either something emotionally/psychologically upsetting happened between the two interviews, or she had taken some sort of mood altering drug.
The interviews were so awkward, painful, and just horrible to watch. Ann Curry had to coax her through the entire thing.
I noticed that, too. It was really weird. It was like pulling teeth to get any information out of her. Kind of odd if you're there to promote opportunities for yourself.
It's also hard to interview someone who talks incoherntly, in sentence fragments instead of complete sentences. And doesn't use words correctly. So much of the time it's hard to tell what she means because she uses words incorrectly because she's attached the wrong meaning to a word.
No 37 year old woman should look that old and miserable....I DO feel sorry for her.
Yeah, me too. Kind of. But she's so abusive and such a user, and doesn't seem to ever learn, that I have to take it back.
She really looked miserable in that last interview, didn't she.
Katie Cry-duh said... 15 LOL. All they talked about on the IE interview was Jon! Everything the interviewer referred to included Jon.
I noticed that! Man, that had to piss her off royally. Maybe that's why she looked so awful. Cuz she wanted to talk about herself, and they insisted on talking about Jon?
Finally....those off-camera pics from the morning interview....those boobs! They're huge! They could float the Queen Mary.
I don't get how they can change size so dramatically. Is this common with implants? Can you just blow them up at will? It seems like sometimes they're humongous, and other times not as much.
Right, 43 -- I don't think that is what Dwindle meant.
I don't believe that any child would be removed from their home based on appearances. But, there would be MAJOR clues in how a mom dressed, acted and looked. That kind info would not and should not be ignored.
Her kids don't bring that stuff up....SHE DOES. She can't very well say it's her thinking that. That would make her look like the selfish and greedy bitch that she is. Thats all her talking...I guarentee you.
Right -- I, personally, want to be held accountable for what I say and do. (I am sure I am not the only one here who feels that way.) You have a point of view.
We try to be respectful to each other here.
Maybe we need to consider what you are saying. Join in, please with kindness.
Just MY opinion....
Dmasy said... 45
Right, 43 -- I don't think that is what Dwindle meant.
I don't believe that any child would be removed from their home based on appearances. But, there would be MAJOR clues in how a mom dressed, acted and looked. That kind info would not and should not be ignored.
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Kate's appearance is pretty darn generic. She looks like a million other women out there. There is nothing about her physical appearance that would raise red flags in the mind of a competent social worker. She is not unkempt. Her clothes are not dirty. Being a bleached blonde with a hair style that may not flatter you has nothing to do with ability to care for children.
Is it true that one of the sheeple got a single mom fired from her job of 24 years?
I know this is not quite appropriate to ask here, but I think I might know who this person is and I'm concerned.
I admit it, I read for the snark. (No offense, because I like you all, but some of the speculation is over the top sometimes.) I post rarely about Kate, but I did yesterday, and it was about her appearance. She has just been so mean and nasty and emotionally abusive and downright critical of everyone for so long, I do enjoy reading here. Think about it - when was the last time she was nice to someone, complimented someone, or thanked someone without a finger wave? She didn't.
I watched those youtube videos of the NYC episode after someone reminded me she had gone there (I had just returned from China) and she says that Jamie is another mother to her children, exactly like her. And then proceeded to treat her like absolute crap. It was sort of a compliment (from her), but that's no excuse to treat people like they are there to be at your beck and whim (to quote my darling husband). I had a friend like that and told her to check herself several times and she is now gone. Long gone and a relief to have it that way too. When I called her out one last time on email and told her the ball was in her court, I never heard from her again. That's how these people work. And then they wonder why they are lonely.
You reap what you sow.
Anonymous said... 49
Is it true that one of the sheeple got a single mom fired from her job of 24 years?
I know this is not quite appropriate to ask here, but I think I might know who this person is and I'm concerned.
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Word is that they've gotten two women (both single moms) fired.
Are we off of moderation again? Geesh.
Kate's appearance is pretty darn generic. She looks like a million other women out there. There is nothing about her physical appearance that would raise red flags in the mind of a competent social worker. She is not unkempt. Her clothes are not dirty. Being a bleached blonde with a hair style that may not flatter you has nothing to do with ability to care for children.
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And she did all that with money she got off the backs of her kids - which does have a bearing on her parenting abilities.
Mel #4, the comment that does it for me is "your the best grandma". That's usually followed by "now can I have a special treat?". Lol!
You all watch to snark. Claiming there is some "higher" motive doesn't change that very obvious reality.
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Snark, imo, is a stress reliever from watching her constantly exploit her kids. Why does the world need to know her kids need bras?
Gee, you have an unemployed mom who verbalizes she is worried about how to pay the bills, yet she spends plenty of money on her wardrobe, her fancy cars, her trips (marathon, LV, and an upcoming marathon), and a pricey hair salon in NYC, tanning, and a perfect manicure 24/7..(let's not forget Mady saying her mom needs another closet for more shoes)..all the while, she drones on about mixing and matching kid's clothes to save a dollar, dresses her kids in too big clothes, makes a big production of going through bins of old hand-me-downs of clothes and shoes, and can't afford activities for the kids such as scouts, gymnastics and going to the movie.
Oh, almost forgot that her kids aren't even worthy of genuine dinner plates, they still eat on paper ones, and the meals they are fed are grossly lacking in quantity.
She constantly tweets on school nights, when she should be spending that time with her kids.
So yes, if that is considered 'snark', then I guess so.
(oh, just remembered a clip from the 'realist reality show on tv'....what young boy sways back and forth for comfort? one that is maternally neglected, that's who.
Kate deserves all the 'snark' she has coming to her. At least her parents didn't put her naked body on tv.
I'm a bit....befuddled here.
This is not "A MINOR CONSIDERATION". If Paul Petersen were to start commenting on Kate's tan, hairstyle, etc...on that site, it would look a bit inappropriate.
But here? This is a non-fan site. We would like to see the G. kids enjoy some privacy and would not like to see them back on a TV show again.
But we also don't particularly like Kate....and much of what she does....and says. Where is the big hypocrisy?
She, like other adult celebrities, put herself out there for public consumption. When you do that, you take on all the risks associated with that....and one of the biggest is that not everyone is gonna like you. If you don't want that, don't put yourself out there and remain private.
I don't like Kim Kardashian either. She's another legal adult who seeks the spotlight....so she's fair game (as long as it's legal....and as far as I know, snarking is legal. So is free speech).
In fact, I'm pretty sick of ALL the reality shows at this point.
But I'm not getting the logic of the criticism for snarking on Kate's appearance. Personally, I wasn't snarking....I was simply stating I didn't like the way she had her hair...and thought she looked better in the past with curly hair with some body to it. But sure, others here took it to the snarking level....but so what? I'm just not getting why this was a big problem.
Somewhere there is a hired PR person listening to Kate whinny :
"I AM trying, look I gave up all CARBS to be AWN TV and I am hungry. I need someone to teach me how I learn. Don't send ME AWN TV to fail. Make ME look good. Is that so hard?
(All we asked of you Kate was to read up on the new ap, get plenty of rest and not drink the night before your interviews)
"You have no right to judge me. I am a single parent of EIGHT CHILDREN who depend on ME. I need Steve, where is he? Get Steve in here NOW.
(What is it Kite?
"She can't speak to me like this. Fire her NOW. And fire the last babysitter,whatever her name is, I am so tired of people leaving CARBS out where I am tempted to eat them. Do any of you people understand what I do for all of you? You eat because I don't. So get me a freakin salad now. And find out why my kid are doing, I have to blog about them after lunch.
I did some home health nursing for a while many years ago and yes, clothing, hair, mouth bathing hygiene were definitely considered when I evaluated my clients in their homes.
An example:
A 73 y/o female, many years widowed and living alone with 7 cats; her home smelled terrible, she had a pervasive body odor, her hair was in greasy strings hanging in her face, her teeth were yellow and had visible food particles trapped, her ears had enough yellow wax build-up that wax particles were plainly visible and her clothing was dirty with food stains, wrinkled and her underwear had what my brother euphamistically called 'shit skids'. Her socks stood up by themselves in the corner.
A sad, sad case to be sure. Her appearance told me that she had no concept of personal hygiene, no self-awareness, no ability or motivation to clean her person or her home. In short, she was showing multiple signs of dementia and depression.
In her case, all the grown sons were called in, a family conference was held with me (nurse) and social worker and mom was immediately taken to hospital for medical evaluation and placed in assisted living with dementia unit.
When people here talk about appearance being one of the key factors in evaluation, that is what they are talking about, not a bad dye job or exposed roots.
No one is saying kart's bad hair do is, per se, an indication of her lack of mothering ability. It is one factor in pointing to her selfishness and lack of awareness of parental responsibility before personal responsibility. She simply feels, for whatever sick reason, she is more important than her kids.
Yes, evaluating personal care and appearance is definitely a valid tool. Social workers, nurses, physicians use it all the time as one part of diagnosing before treatment.
Well, guess Kate had to stay in NYC another night since she was so exhausted!
I bet she pops back on twitter tonight, when the kids get home.
Question for Kate....you still making all those great meals and freezing them for the days when you are away?? we haven't heard a mention about the soups you make 'once a year'...wasn't that a 'tradition?"
and yes, I guess that is snark. I would also call it disgust.
I had a thought about Kate's chickens...since she's always getting her words mixed up, you think she got those chickens in hopes that one would lay a golden egg??
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Someone upthread asked why we watch...I'll answer that.
I watched The Today Show - because I always watch The Today Show in the morning. I like to get my news, weather, current events - and so that was no different. Kate, no Kate - doesn't matter to me. I'm going to watch my morning show.
I watched Inside Edition because I've been watching it since Bill O'Reilly hosted it - that tells you how long ago THAT was! I like it better than Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood - so that's my choice during the dinner hour.
And yes. I snark on her appearance. Is there a law against that? I do it because she's asked for it. She's the one that's put herself out there for so long - she's the one who's spent God-knows-what on her own personal appearance - and so yes. I snark.
If she looks good, I'll be the first to say she looks good. If she interviews well, I'll be the first to say that she interviews well. I'll give her credit if I feel she deserves it - but lately, she hasn't deserved it. She's done NOTHING noteworthy lately that I can see...so she gets no credit from me lately.
I was a Psychology major in school, and frankly, Kate is a psychologist's dream. Her complete lack of self-awareness is fascinating...and I guess I keep waiting for her to show SOME signs of awareness.
So, there you go.
Oh hell, I feel no need to justify my snark on Kate. It's snark. Criticism. If she can't take it, she needs to PERMANENTLY and COMPLETELY get out of the public eye. Most every public figure gets criticized at some point or another, some more than others. Some deserve criticism more than others, and Kate RICHLY deserves it, many times over.
She's an ass with a self-important streak a million times bigger than her actual worth. She's a child exploiter who has indicated just yesterday she's willing and ready to exploit her kids all over again at a moment's notice if someone will just pay her and put her on TV. DESPITE the inappropriate shots of her young kids blasted all over the world. DESPITE the creepers out there who seem to think her kids belong to them. DESPITE the fact that a convicted pedophile was one of their EDITORS, for God's sake. She doesn't give a shit about ANY of that, as long as you hand her the money.
What kind of ASSHOLE feels that way? I mean, really? She doesn't have a protective maternal bone in her body. It's all about her and what SHE can get.
And all this bullshit about how she needs to support them somehow. Well, yeah, she does. She needs to get a freaking JOB and quit being such a deadbeat. She needs to get off her ass and learn what it's like to earn a paycheck BY HERSELF, not on her kids' backs.
But that won't cut it for her. I've never even gotten the feeling she LIKES her kids, much less loves them, like she protests so hard that she does. I'd take it a step further and say I think she regrets having eight kids now. They aren't her little money-makers anymore. She's got no use for them unless they're getting her a TV show--I guess she's figured out she can't get one on her own, so she's back to offering up her young children as sacrifices on the temple of fame and fortune.
She's despicable. Disgusting. And I'm here to watch her slow but inevitable descent into obscurity.
Period.
No one here should ever apologize for snarking on Kate. She puts herself out there. She's an adult. She knows what she's doing. Snarking totally allowed, just like what dee3 said.
If there are people reading who get upset by any snark on Kate, I suggest you quit reading.
Once again, you all are saying it better than I could!!
She is fascinating in a disgusting kind of I-don't-believe-it train wreck.
One more thought about those memory making trips. She was MISERABLE. Miserable while she was packing, miserable while in airports, miserable in Alaska, and miserable in an RV.
Why does she want to leave home (with the kids) again? She had a horrible time and she made sure the children did also.
A day without snarking on Kate is like a day without sunshine.
PJs Momma: What was also odd was how Jamie wore similar clothes to Kate- black halter and white shorts in NYC for example- and apparently they have the same necklace? I wonder if she is a stand-in for Kate ( or was- wonder if they are still speaking!)
Why does she want to leave home (with the kids) again? She had a horrible time and she made sure the children did also.
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Because the kids are the money makers, that's why.
It's easier to make them earn it while she 'organizes'.
Kate has a horrible time everywhere she goes, might as well get paid for it, right?
Just watched the IE interview. Yes, she certainly had odd facial expressions in the interview. Her face did look odd. Maybe it was the camera angle but something was off. The way she kepted rolling and squinting her eyes seemed very strange to me as well.
The ironic thing is, when she did that first special about having so many children, she had a personality. She seems to have lost a lot of it in these two interviews.
You would think that a person who is shopping around for another tv show would at least show a little enthusiasm for it. It's like she thinks she's entitled to a new tv show.
I don't watch Inside Edition but I did see the on-line minute-or-so video clip. It looked to me like a preliminary interview prior to going to the 'main event' which would be televised. Please someone tell me this clip is not the one that went to air; there must have been more to this interview otherwise why bother putting this pathetic woman on TV with all her shoulder shrugging, eye-rolling nervous gestures.
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Mel 4- Great question. Quick answer: smart. A coworker paid me the best compliment of my life a while back. She said she always learns something new when she works with me. I'd take that over "hot" any day.
PatK said... 64
A day without snarking on Kate is like a day without sunshine.
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lol, you made me choke on my lunch,lolol.
I just don't see how people deal with Kate including Steve.
She just seems like a downer and a wet blanket to me.
I like reading here, and posting occasionally, because the language is usually appropriate and one can snark without vulgarity. I hope this forum doesn't change now that some others are no longer active.
I posted earlier that I'll give Kate credit if she deserves it - which is a rare day, indeed.
Anyway, thought I'd back that statement up. Yesterday, I was impressed that she kept the "girls" covered. Yes - I was actually impressed that she didn't have on a low-cut top that displayed her twins. AND - I was impressed that the dress was NOT a shiny, cocktail dress - which would have been wildly inappropriate for morning TV.
So there. A positive statement for Kate - to show that it's not all negative. :)
Toast, with a side of Spam.
Incoherent, incredible, why does she think she can be on camera? Why?
Why do we snark on Kate? Oh, she’s asked for it, for years now. There’s a post that appeared on this blog on Dec. 9, 2010. Kate’s downward spiral was in full swing even then, a year and a half ago. At this point we’ve invested ourselves into seeing it through to the bitter end, complete with Kate kicking and screaming. Erin, wherever you are I hope you don’t mind that I loved your post so much that I saved it and now want to share it here again. (3 parts, due to length.)
Part 1: I know this sounds weird but for a while there I felt myself getting angry with God or the Universe or whatever. I mean, here is a woman who is truly undeserving of the generosity that has been bestowed upon her. She does not give back, have compassion for others, is selfish, demanding, greedy and cruel. Yet she truly is given life on a "golden plate"
There are so many kind, loving, hard working, moral people out there who are suffering tragedy. Loss of loved ones, homelessness, unhealthy children yet still they persevere. It would make me nuts that the world allows a grifter like Kate to make millions while the plight of others is never examined. I would think to myself. WHY? Where is justice? Where is karma? What happened to "good things happen to good people?"
Part 2: This bitterness of how unfair things really are started to get to me. I had to shut off all things Kate. I can enjoy this blog though because it is nice to see other intelligent people say WTH to this craziness.
Recently I started to come to terms with this. It hit me. Karma is coming. Remember the phrase "the bigger they are the harder they fall." I think for Kate to really learn the lesson she had to "be on top". It's such a farther fall. Let’s see.. she went from media darling, most talked about celeb of 09, super mom, bestselling author, had a children’s' line in the works, was beautiful, had lovely children, loving husband, enough money to survive, friends, family, was a paid speaker on all things mom, had the media on her side saying how great she was, butt kissed by TLC etc. Now look. haggard, loathed, a media joke, won several awards for douchbag and turkey of the year, children are sad, lost a loving husband, worries about money, has no friends, no family, no support. Kate is alone! It’s starting to crumble.
Part 3: Another thing I have noticed...lately the media stories about Kate all start with "a close source of Kate said ..." hmmmm Kate has no close people in her life. I truly think TLC is leaking negative stories about her as a secret revenge. I think they are sick of her personally but are willing to stay as long as ratings are there. In the meantime they are having fun "leaking" horror stories. Kate is no longer in a protected bubble. I really want Dateline or someone to do a true expose and get the WHOLE truth out once and for all of her scam and let this woman go hide in shame. I hate that she grifted from churches with her poor me bit and I hate what she has done to her children. I hate that she took so much from so many and has given back nothing. I can’t believe no one discusses THAT in the media.
Ugh grifter in every sense of the word.
Other people who evaluate based on dress/hairstyle/appearance/communication skills are prospective employers. Provocative clothing, extreme hairstyles/makeup, garish jewelry, wild gestures and facial expressions are all turnoffs. Prospective employers look for discression in appearance, a person who looks an interviewer in the eye, who communicates confidently and coherently without "cutesy" expressions and made-up words. KK wants a new job in the entertainment industry. A prospective employer wants an interviewer who can fade into the background and showcase the interviewee. A person being interviewed for a job as a product demonstrator or representative needs to be able to showcase that product. In other words, the spotlight needs to be elsewhere. KK wants the spotlight, but she doesn't have anything to offer. As long as she dresses in slutwear, wears a hairstyle designed to call attention instead of being becoming, and behaves like an idiot, no one is going to be interested in hiring her.
You would think that a person who is shopping around for another tv show would at least show a little enthusiasm for it. It's like she thinks she's entitled to a new tv show.
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What strikes me, and I'm sure most of you, is that Kate is so ungrateful for all the things and opportunities that have been given to her. I have never heard her acknowledge all the gifts and blessings she, Jon and the kids have received over the years.
The woman is a bottomless pit, and sadly, she's modeling that for and projecting it upon the kids.
The Gosselin's blessings have far exceeded their needs, but there's Kate, sulking because the gravy train has ended.
This should be the era of "Gosselins give back", without expecting anything in return, or a camera crew in tow.
I got roped into her sphere by those darn adorable kids, and that won't happen again because I refuse to watch ANY family-related reality shows. This blog is my guilty pleasure, so, for now, I will read and post.
What another blog does or does not do makes no difference to me. The idea that all blogs have to shut down and she has to disappear in order for all to be right in MY world is ridiculous. It's like the alcoholic that says that another person or the presence of alcohol makes them drink. There have been some great posters that, for whatever reason, have moved on and I respect that. I don't respect people telling me and others what we should or shouldn"t do. I do not search out Kate's tweets or news about her. Most of the time, I don't even follow links here.
I find her interesting because rarely do I get to see this level of narcissism up close and personal. I have had people like her in my life, and now I know what it is when I see it. When I find Kate uninteresting, or when and if this blog closes, I will stop reading and posting. Admin manages to keep it light and I appreciate her efforts.
In the world of people who have unfairly pigged out at the trough, Kate is small potatoes. Kate is a legend in her own mind, and that is all. Worth poking fun at, not worth consuming my self with resentment.
I do worry about her children, but then, I know people that have had similar parenting and managed to become a better person for it--some of them post here. For his many faults, Jon seems to provide a consistency and unconditionally loving presence in their lives. Since his custody time has increased, he will have more influence in their lives, and, as they get older, they will experience healthy families and relationships.
Living with Kate when she isn't getting what she wants must be holy hell--the less time she spends with them, the better. It is a very long way from Kate's imagination to an actual reality show. If that happens, then I will reconsider my own participation. There is nothing interesting about watching a raging narcissist with 8 children between the ages of 8-11. Public school teachers routinely teach classes of 24-36 students, for more hours a week than they are home. With shared custody, Kate is willing to film their every waking moment that they are with her. Hyenas have better parenting skills than her. Watching adults treat each other badly, and deal publicly with addictions and mental illness is a far cry from displaying an abusive parent actively damaging her children. What network would want to touch her with a ten foot pole?
PJsMomma--Welcome back!
mama mia @ 57 - HAHAHA!!! That was too funny! More please.
My two cents about the Kate snark is pretty much what the others have said. You put yourself in the public eye, you open yourself and your life up to scrutiny and criticism. Funny that Kate happily takes the praise heaped upon her by total strangers yet chooses to completely ignore the detractors.
Fame is a two sided coin and you can't just choose one side. You take the whole thing or you leave the whole thing. Kate, obviously, wants it all.
The other thing is, there are so many of us who clearly see the emotional damage her children have suffered. It's all there on film. Mostly from our own personal experiences, we understand the deep hurt she causes her children. We choose to say, publicly, that it's not right.
I don't care if by the letter of the law what she has done is not considered abuse. I really don't, I know in my heart that it is and I will say so.
Racism was still racism even when there were no laws against it.
Ex Nurse, 80 -- I had to read your post twice to absorb all the excellent content. Thank you for expressing my thoughts so well. You got it!
Well said Sheri.
readerlady said... 78
As long as she dresses in slutwear, wears a hairstyle designed to call attention instead of being becoming, and behaves like an idiot, no one is going to be interested in hiring her.
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...which is probably why McDonalds tore up her resume and threw it in the trash can.
ARGHHH!! Damn you autocorrect! Of course, it's discretion, not discression!
"In the world of people who have unfairly pigged out at the trough, Kate is small potatoes."
Ex-Nurse, I loved that!!!
Pj's mom: it makes you wonder if, Kate used these friends as: friends with benefits(especially Jamie). I find it odd that with a big house, you have your friend, who flys in, sleeps in the same bed with you. Lonely much: friend with benefit? Sorry, people, when I had friends from out of town stay over, I gave them a place to sleep and it was not my bed, with me in it, they got their own bed to sleep in. I can understand if you have a small place, with maybe no couch, but if I had a small place and a couch, I would give my bed to the guest and sleep on the couch. Kate's answer to that cause one of the twins were asking, was: oh, it's just like a sleep over. Yeah, right, 2 gown 30 something women, who are moms. Everybody does that, yeah, right! Kate might be BI, or as a lot were saying then it's just sex! Friends with benefits. I also find it odd that a woman with 3 kids, would rather spend time with a woman in another state& travel with, her & her 8 kids, dress alike, etc. I do see what you mean a stand in for Kate.
Personally, I don't care what people do in their bedrooms, long as it is not child abuse, do what you want. But, because Kate spoke about it, almost bragged about it, makes you wonder.
Is it just me, or is her mention feed on Twitter dead?
How did Kate's followers get people fired?
I am no fan of Kate's, but if Jon is behind the apparently nasty tell all (Gosselin book.com) then he is worse. You have to love your kids more than you hate each other. And they BOTH exploited them. Jon only backed out when he no longer had financial gain. Jon may well be more likeable but if hes behind the book? Ouch...those poor kids.
dee3 said... 56
I'm a bit....befuddled here.
This is not "A MINOR CONSIDERATION". If Paul Petersen were to start commenting on Kate's tan, hairstyle, etc...on that site, it would look a bit inappropriate.
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My post was in direct response to someone's claim that people here (she used "we" not "I" so she was not speaking solely for herself) watch Kate to "monitor" her and to be the "voice" for the children. Snarking on Kate is not done in the name of advocating for her children. That was, and is, my point. Don't try to couch snark as some noble calling.
That sound you hear is the last nail in her coffin!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/kate-gosselin-new-reality-show_n_1536438.html?ref=celebrity
-Heather
Just saw this on Huffington Post ... Sounds like Kate Gosselin needs a serious reality (TV) check. LOL - You Think?
"A spokesperson for WE tells me Kate will not be calling that channel her new home, and Oxygen and Lifetime insiders says they have no interest in Kate either."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/kate-gosselin-new-reality-show_n_1536438.html
I must admit I started (just a tad mind you) to feel a little sorry for Kate yesterday. I'm not sure if it was the obvious desperation or how nervous and uncomfortable she looked in both interviews so anyway today I went to YouTube and watched a five minute ugly moments from j&k+8 clip. All cured now. I did notice the "not again" eye roll in the IE interview when asked if filming the kids was harmful.
Well. finally, Rob Shuter's getting it right (if people think we snark here, they should read THESE comments):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/kate-gosselin-new-reality-show_n_1536438.html
Aw, Thanks Dmaesy and Laura d.
I calls it as I sees it!
It's funny, with Preesi's Gosselin site closing, it makes me nostalgic, in a way. I have been reading this blog and others for years. Hard to believe that I can say that it's been years, but it has been.
I can remember watching the show in the early years and some of Kate's behaviors or comments didn't sit right. Long story short after reading many blogs (for and against Kate) I found this one. I've seen posters come and go and I have taken breaks at times too, still lurked but have stopped posting as much. Not for lack of interest,but because I didn't have anything useful to contribute.
I have to say this is one of the best Gosselin blogs IMHO. Every one here has always been polite and agreeable (not the trolls of course). There feels like a true kinship among the posters here.
So what if we snark, so what if we mock Kate, so what if we mock Rat Claw. That is part of what makes this blog so enjoyable. We can snark, we can be serious and we get along.
Okay, I'll get my hormones back in check (can anyone tell which poster has PMS LOL). Enough of me being mushy and emotional. Just wanted you all to know you're great!!
Ex Nurse, I love, love, love what you wrote!
"Kate Gosselin Surprised Networks Unwilling To Sign New Reality Show"
http://t.co/gQgO7njP
I just went to the Huffington Post link. Oh my, the comments are scathing. I do feel sorry for her. Who could absorb all these insults and the negativity without scar tissue?
No wonder she is silent today. There is nothing to say. If she does not see reality -- as defined by the rest of the world -- and change, there is no hope in her dark, dark world.
anger issues:
I agree the 'friendship' with Jamie was a little contrived. I think they were casual friends- I mean, they lived in different states and Kate was busy with the show, the kids, BFF Beth etc, so she wouldn't have time to maintain a true friendship. I think TLC had to come up with someone to play off Kate on trips when Jon left, or she'd be talking to herself. Steve was more in the background.
I also think she got paid- and that Jamie is a little plain in looks, although has Kate's coloring-maybe Kate's idea to use her so she wouldn't be upstaged like she felt Jodi did, maybe Beth too...the similar outfits and the sleeping arrangements were weird- she mentioned it in the Philly epi iirc- I don't think Kate likes men- there could be something there- I think Jamie does not have primary custody of her 3 children so had time for Kate. I agree if it was a true 'relationship' that developed that's up to them, but there are indications that it might have been.
WOWSER....Those comments at Huffington post are pretty brutal....If I was her(and I thank God I'm not)I would be afraid to leave the house. People are soooo angry with her for trying to pimp those kids out again. From the sound of it....the public has had it with her. Is she living under a rock? Maybe she should leave the country and start anew
Aggiemom -- hey! I see that your name is in blue now. I was so proud when I figured out how to do an account.
I am just a normal person. I would be buried in grief if I read so many negative and unkind comments about myself. Not just here, but all over the internet.
She needs a really, really good friend to help her find a pathway out of this wicked mess she calls her "crazy world". (And, to give her a hug and let her cry for awhile.)
She has eight children (as she frequently reminds us) who need a stable and balanced mother.
Yesterday, she tried. She had a slim chance. Sorry.
For the second day in a row Radar Online have given her space despite the scathing comments yesterday.
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No wonder she is silent today.
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lol, poor Kate.
Don't worry though, she'll be back on twitter tonight, when the kids get home!
She's either on her way back to PA now (limo, of course, kids only want her to have the best), or she will skulk in tonight after the kids are put to bed.
Right @ 91, I guess you enjoy our snarking, then, if you come here to read it and comment on it?
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Good point about Kate not even being asked about her own non-existent love life. Give me a break with the Steve crap. She has no one. She's lonely as hell, but she always will be because she's a terribly unhappy, horrible person who doesn't know what a real give and take relationship is.
You guys know what happens next, right?
An offer from an adult video company to make a "film" or two.
Not that she should or would accept that offer. But that's definitely what's next. Octomom Redux.
What sunshine and rainbow platitude could she possible twit today that would neutralize all the venom that is out there?
I really don't know how she can recover emotionally from the reaction to her limited visibility yesterday.
This should be a serious "wake up" call to anyone -- regardless of how self absorbed they might be.
Dmasy...
posted a personal thank you to you earlier concerning the google acct stuff, but it sounded dorky so I deleted it.
I am the proud owner of a trashcan.
Thanks, Dmasy!
She either has very thick skin or is a complete nutcase and has no feelings at all...
LisaNH said... 97
It's funny, with Preesi's Gosselin site closing, it makes me nostalgic, in a way. I have been reading this blog and others for years. Hard to believe that I can say that it's been years, but it has been.
I can remember watching the show in the early years and some of Kate's behaviors or comments didn't sit right. Long story short after reading many blogs (for and against Kate) I found this one. I've seen posters come and go and I have taken breaks at times too, still lurked but have stopped posting as much. Not for lack of interest,but because I didn't have anything useful to contribute.
I have to say this is one of the best Gosselin blogs IMHO. Every one here has always been polite and agreeable (not the trolls of course). There feels like a true kinship among the posters here.
So what if we snark, so what if we mock Kate, so what if we mock Rat Claw. That is part of what makes this blog so enjoyable. We can snark, we can be serious and we get along.
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Question for you and everyone else saying this: Are you teaching your children that it is okay to mock people as long as you have determined that they "deserve" it? Are you teaching your children that they are not responsible for their words and actions directed at other kids who "put themselves out there?" Using your logic, it is OK to laugh at the kid who gets on stage and sings despite not having the best voice, because she put herself in a position to be mocked.
Is it really any wonder that cyber bullying is so rampant among children? They are following the lead of adults who consistently excuse their own behavior.
I am glad to see those that they say they felt sorry for her yesterday, because I did too. She appeared very depressed and near tears. I made up my mind then if she got a cook book out I would buy it to help the kids. I have been reading of course and fired off my snark but left without posting it. Which I am sure when she goes back into manic phase I will be right back on it. But something held me back and I thought back to how PB got her so rattled on the the RV episode over the stupid pizza and just said a little prayer that he wasn't messing her with already delicate psyche on a press day. It appeared that she was looking off to the side for approval and perhaps not getting it and/or that she was more concerned with what was going on off camera than on. She just wasn't on her game. And I thought of how many times those cheery tweets were made while she was in the depths of despair, and how cold and heartless the house must be during those times for the kids. I am not sure she will be able to function without her celebrity status - maybe she wasn't getting it on the set, I don't know. Something was off, way off.
Someone on twitter said it best...Kate doesn't have enough fans to float a boat (literally) let alone a show....
Right said:
Question for you and everyone else saying this: Are you teaching your children that it is okay to mock people as long as you have determined that they "deserve" it? Are you teaching your children that they are not responsible for their words and actions directed at other kids who "put themselves out there?" Using your logic, it is OK to laugh at the kid who gets on stage and sings despite not having the best voice, because she put herself in a position to be mocked.
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First, I can't be shamed into not criticizing or snarking on Kate. So just know that from here on out, this type of getting up on a soapbox and preaching just doesn't do a thing to me.
Secondly, my grown child has no idea what I say online. So that's completely moot.
Third, a kid in a talent contest at school isn't exactly a PUBLIC FIGURE. What about that do you not understand? Kate wants to be a public figure and was one in the near past. She's fair game to criticize.
End of story.
And just because you enjoy reading the snarking and criticism so much, I'll add that I'm reading the comments on the Huffington Post article and wavering between choking with laughter and gasping in astonishment at some of their comments. Specifically the titles of future films she could do. And the new stage name she could have. Uncouth, but clever.
Check it out if you love Kate snark: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/kate-gosselin-new-reality-show_n_1536438.html
When the Today show came on yesterday, I watched in horror as she threw herself (for once) under the bus. And after seeing the IE clip, I have this overwhelming feeling that we all just saw someone self-destruct before our eyes. Both appearances were so completely awful--she looks terrible, her attitude seems toxic--I don't thing anyone is even thinking of her in terms of a reality show these days. If so, it would have happened by now. But if she was being considered for CA or DWTS, I think that seeing her yesterday put any consideration for either to rest. She doesn't have "it". I don't know if she ever did, but she sure doesn't now. She looked awful, her attitude was worse--all the shrugging, hand flipping, foot pumping, inarticulate, throwing her kids out there for a show...She seemed a little pi**ed off, too, like "Give me a damn show already, dammit!" There was some rage there under the fake smiles and eye rolls. We have been waiting for the end to come for her, and I really think yesterday's appearances signaled the end.
Right, 111 -- I do not think that I (and many others here) are excusing our behavior. I, also, do NOT think that we are bullies. (I do think that Kate is a bully!)
We are adults with opinions. Administrator has managed a site without obscene comments. We share info on topics other than Kate.
Kate has many detractors. She has invited us into her life and claims that it is the realest of real.
She has some fan sites, too. I don't post at any of them. I agree with most of the sentiments shared here.
I think she was just super pissed yesterday. It must be clear to her by now that she's not getting another show. FINALLY, SHE REALIZES!
As for feeling sorry for her, I don't. She made her bed. She's had every opportunity in the world and has trashed it all. She needs to get a real job.
Right -- if you continue to read here, I think that you will see some compassion for Kate creeping in.
We recognize that she bombed yesterday. We are reading horrible comments directed to her at other (reputable) sites.
We all understand that everyone is fail and human and has a breaking point. I could not withstand the negativity that is flying at Kate.
She has to keep it together -- 8 children depend on her.
I do believe that she built the sand castle that she is trying to live in. I think that she has sown some toxic seeds. I think that she needs to grow up and develop some maternal instinct.
All of us have had to face harsh circumstances and dark days. This is Kate's opportunity to find a better version of herself.
The truth is, whatever self-pity Kate may be indulging in right now (if, in fact, she's sentient enough to realize that there is no hidden "groundswell" of support beneath the not-veiled-at-all contempt the vast majority of people seem to have for her), she'll be all fake breeziness and flatitudes by tomorrow morning, and whyever not? After all, round about the middle of next week, she'll be jetting off to San Diego, Purseboy at her heels, to splash out with some spa, sushi, and spandex whilst (half-)running a half-marathon. She'll be gone for 4 or 5 days, enjoy first-class air and 5-star hotel, and, besides the run itself, will have little or nothing to ruffle her feathers. Ah, it's GOOD to be a child exploiter with plenty of money in the bank and imagination enough to "star" in your very own version of reality whenever the whim takes you.
Dream on, Kate, dream on. All good things. . . . And no, I don't feel sorry for her. She alone is responsible for wherever it is she finds herself today.
Sooooo funny...Radar says Kate took a "HIATUS" from her reality show and is ready to film again. Two questions.....!. What are they smoking over there? and 2. Who is she screwing to get such a positive and ridiulous article written about her?
Auntie Anne, if I end up destitute and unemployable I blame you! Why you ask? Because I during a video conference today one of the women at the video location swung her leg every time she spoke and I just could not stop laughing. Of course what she was saying wasn't crap, or at least most of it wasn't haha, but all I could think about was the little mind picture you had created. :)
Pity party-
That is sweet and humane that you would buy a cookbook by Kate even though you know it would be rubbish. But her kids don't need the money from book sales. They need a loving compassionate stable mother. Nothing we can do will help them get that. That's the sad part. Kate won't face the truth. We are all here for the kids in one way or another.
I think what you said proves that this blog has sympathetic concerned posters like yourself.
Feel sorry for her??????? NO FREAKIN' WAY...
Why on earth are some of you being put on the defensive about saying what you say on this site and then feeling a need to explain why you say what you say?
This IS the internet. It is NOT a serious business. Ignore the trolls and do as you well please.
And stop reading on Bristol Palin, the young woman got a chance because of who her mother is and then she worked hard and took full advantage of the opportunity. She improved. Contrast that with Ms Kreider who took the opportunity and learned nothing from it and did not work hard at all.
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Didn't you agree that even Hitler would look better than Kate?
Not the best argument for Bristol Palin's dancing, IMO. ;)
"They really, honestly miss filming,” “They’ve recently been saying, ‘when are we going to go here or there?’ They miss the crew.”
Bull crap, They miss being stuck at home with Momster; Spring Break spent in the basement, no movies or even a day trip while mom flies around the country. They miss the pampering, 5 star hotels, first class travel, restaurants, head of the line admission, and special treatment. As soon as school is out, those kids will be back at work! BIOTCH!
She's on Radar Online again and they're hinting something is around the corner - and I'm sure there is. UGHHHH
Amen, senior citizen.
KAT said... 120
Sooooo funny...Radar says Kate took a "HIATUS" from her reality show and is ready to film again. Two questions.....!. What are they smoking over there? and 2. Who is she screwing to get such a positive and ridiulous article written about her?
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I didn't think-"HIATUS"-meant fired lol.
I do not like Kate and I will never apologize for snarking on her. She is an adult person with a functioning brain and has made her own choices. The rest of the world owes her nothing for her choices, nor support in any way, shape or form. If you put your bad choices out there for public consumption, you need to deal with the backlash.
I do not come here and tell others how to think or feel, nor do I appreciate the trolls/fans/whatever trying to do so. Return to your fan boards and peddle your brand of denial there. I'm tired of reading it here.
Admin, please KEEP this board on moderation. If you need additional help with moderating to ease the burden, I hereby volunteer--as I'm sure many other of the regulars would.
Loved the Huffington article, btw. Maybe someday this stuff will sink into Kate's pea brain and she'll "get it".
Loving all the headlines about Kate and Jon settling their feud "behind the scenes". I've been wondering where Hilary Clinton has been! Now that she has negotiated a peace plan for the Gosselins, she can turn her attention to the minor kerfuffles in the world, like brokering a peace plan in the Middle East.
Where is the obligatory public handshake?
Michelle Theoret @zedtheoret
@Kateplusmy8. At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life if people hate you for that...ohwell!!
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Sorry it's the other way around if she didn't have her kids.
She wouldn't be who she is or where is she and she wouldn't have what she has.
The kids made her not the other way around.
I find it pathetic (and ironic) that Kate says she and Jon settled stuff 'behind the scenes'...well first off, do tell, Kate, cuz you tell ALL about your kids (tween bra shopping ring a bell?), so why not tell us all the details about your behind the scenes stuff?
And second, who says 'behind the scenes'...Kate, your life is not a reality show, as much as you would like it to be.
And third, anytime SHE doesn't want to discuss something, it's personal (her first boyfriend and living with him, losing her virginity,etc), but she will blab ALL about her kid's private stuff.
The woman only has a filter for herself. She knows how filters work, she chooses to only use one for herself.
Someone mentioned upthread how 'lost' Kate looked while being interviewed, that she was looking off screen, etc...you think maybe she was looking at someone else? (maybe ol' Steve wasn't there perhaps?)
Hollywood Life is stating the producers of DWTS will ask Kate Gosselin to return for the all star season but will only use her as a last resort if needed. That is if no one else wants it. They said because everyone hated her and her diva ways. LOL!!!
(This is Remona)
PatK said... 129
I do not like Kate and I will never apologize for snarking on her. She is an adult person with a functioning brain and has made her own choices.
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AMEN! Kate made her own choices, and so will I, as I happily snark away!! In my opinion, her behavior deserves any and all snarks and the comments of those who dislike her and everything she does!!
Remona
They miss being stuck at home with Momster; Spring Break spent in the basement, no movies or even a day trip while mom flies around the country. They miss the pampering, 5 star hotels, first class travel, restaurants, head of the line admission, and special treatment
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Kate's lying. Those kids could not care less about it. I bet they are relieved it's over.
It's KATE that misses the filming and the trips.
As far as missing the crew, gee Kate, you think IF you got a new show, you would have the SAME crew?
what an idiot she is.
Lots of good comments today.
Still no tweeting from Kate, guess I was right...she is on her way back from NYC, probably get in when the kiddies are in bed. If she gets back before they turn in, be prepared for tweeting, cuz she doesn't like to interact with the kids.
Oh geez, Peace Love World, get it RIGHT, wouldja? I am going to need SIX (6), count 'em, SIX MATCHED outfits, not just two. (Oh and I've attach a list of the OTHER items I will be needing.)
Peace Love World @peaceloveworld
@Kateplusmy8 Happy Birthday to the Gosselin twins! We love to see them in our tees! http://pic.twitter.com/wEEQYw7B
2m Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@peaceloveworld aww thanks but did u mean Gosselin sextuplets? Lol.We love your tees, back packs and lunch boxes too wear/use them often!
The grifting never stops, does it?
Aggiemom, 136 -- you called it. She is home. Kids are out of school. The tweeting begins.
Oh, Kate...really??
Right said: "Question for you and everyone else saying this: Are you teaching your children that it is okay to mock people as long as you have determined that they "deserve" it?"
Yes. That's exactly what I teach my kids. Because I do teach my kids to think for themselves. And to learn to recognize snake oil peddlers when they see them. (might they be politicians, church leaders, social activists, self-appointed self-help gurus, reality stars,
etc.) And to mock them. And, by all means, drive them out of town. And if it takes snark to do it, well so be it.
As for the second part of your question, Right, i.e. "Are you teaching your children that they are not responsible for their words and actions directed at other kids who "put themselves out there?" Using your logic, it is OK to laugh at the kid who gets on stage and sings despite not having the best voice, because she put herself in a position to be."...
No. I do teach my kids to be responsible for their words and opinions, negative or positive, popular or impopular: they should always be able to stand for what they believe in.
But I also teach them to always thread lightly around an "out there" person who is sincere, thruthful, and pure of heart...
That's what I believe in. That's also why I feel no remorse whatsoever for my participation in "Kate snarking". She is the false prophet of motherhood. And she should be shamed to silence.
Anderson Cooper tells it like it is.
He didn't tell Kate what he thought of her when he was on with Kelly Rippa, and Kate did her stupid show and tell, knocking Jon. But it was obvious that he did not admire her.
Now on his own show, he doesn't hold back. I doubt he will ever have Kate on his own show, but if he did, I think he would really blast her.
There was a woman on his show today who is a pageant mother who believes in plastic surgery and breast enlargement for her daughter, and took photos of her 7-year-old daughter dancing on a pole, and Anderson said to her:
"I think you are dreadful. I honestly don't have anything more to talk to you about." And she left his stage!
Way to go, Anderson!
NT said... 133
Hollywood Life is stating the producers of DWTS will ask Kate Gosselin to return for the all star season but will only use her as a last resort if needed. That is if no one else wants it. They said because everyone hated her and her diva ways. LOL!!!
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You know, I'm at the point where I really don't care if they have her back on DWTS. I'll probably be ready for more of her making an ass of herself by then and will thoroughly enjoy watching every minute of it...as short as it will be. Then she can go back into obscurity.
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Michelle Theoret @zedtheoret
@Kateplusmy8. At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life if people hate you for that...ohwell!!
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Sorry it's the other way around if she didn't have her kids.
She wouldn't be who she is or where is she and she wouldn't have what she has.
The kids made her not the other way around.
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"At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life"
What a flawed conclusion.
Sheeple logic is so convoluted.
Who cares if the children's privacy, and childhoods are robbed. Or too bad if they are the laughing stock of the school, neighborhood,
state, and country- just as long as famewhore momster has a t.v. show.
Brilliantly stupid.
How come Kate isn't complaining about peaceloveworld putting the tups picture on their twitter feed? I hope they are paying Kate royalties. Remember Em Tanner.
That Peace Love World stuff is expensive! I wonder how they got roped into Kate's grifting? Anyhow, I know the G kids all have that brand, but in the twit pic only one child seems to be wearing it.
And please, Snark On, fellow posters !
haha pretty funny comment under the Huffington article:
"maybe the kids will get a show when they turn 18...."8 minus kate "- and talk about how mommy and daddy screwed up their childhood."
Just what would Kate’s new show be about? Let’s see, a travel show with the Kids? Kate, you thought the Grand Canyon was a “waste of real estate” and you didn’t know who was on Mt. Rushmore. Let’s not even discuss the Alaska trip. Nope, nothing to do with travel because people watching travel shows actually want to know a little about the place you’re visiting. How about another show about your daily life? The kids are in school the majority of the day and just how many times can we watch them playing in the pool and listening to the “shrieks of delight”? Oh wait, you throw empty plastic eggs around for them to find. Yeah, that’s interesting. I guess we can always watch the kids cleaning up after the chickens and the dog. Nope, I can go out in my own backyard and do poop patrol. I’m at a loss Kate. What would this new show be about? WAIT I’VE GOT IT….she wants to be on a Real Housewives of Philadelphia! Quick someone call Andy Cohen.
Do the kids really miss filming? Doubtful. If they miss anything they are missing the back stage passes and tickets to any concert they wanted to attend, the luxury boxes at sporting events and other types of shows not to mention all the gifts that were waiting for them every time they attended anything and having everything shut down so that they’d have the place all to themselves and the trips. If they miss anything at all they miss being THE GOSSELINS instead of just the Gosselins. Welcome to the real world.
Kate, you’re not a star. If you were to be on any type of show that was not a reality show you’d only be paid scale. You’ve got nothing to back you up to be able to command anything higher than that. You’d never command the salary that you reportedly got from TLC and the perks wouldn’t be there.
Hollywood Life is stating the producers of DWTS will ask Kate Gosselin to return for the all star season but will only use her as a last resort if needed. That is if no one else wants it. They said because everyone hated her and her diva ways. LOL!!!
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Hollywood Life has no credibility whatsoever. They've been wrong and printed inaccurate information on the Kate saga nearly 100 percent of the time.
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 141
chefsummer said... 131
Michelle Theoret @zedtheoret
@Kateplusmy8. At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life if people hate you for that...ohwell!!
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin
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Sorry it's the other way around if she didn't have her kids.
She wouldn't be who she is or where is she and she wouldn't have what she has.
The kids made her not the other way around.
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"At the end of the day you have been able to give your children a better life"
What a flawed conclusion.
Sheeple logic is so convoluted.
Who cares if the children's privacy, and childhoods are robbed. Or too bad if they are the laughing stock of the school, neighborhood,
state, and country- just as long as famewhore momster has a t.v. show.
Brilliantly stupid
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Hey the sheep love their queen Kate forget the kids and the haters.
Just as long as Kate's happy that all that matters to them.-(sadly)
Here's that Anderson clip. I love this more all the time!
http://www.andersoncooper.com/2012/05/21/anderson-to-human-barbie-youre-dreadful/
HAHAHAHA! How can anyone tell us not to snark on Kate on a blog that was specifically set up to call her (and jon) out?
That's plain silly.
Why not call out the crazies who are glued to twitter 24/7 (both sides) and actively engage in trying to push each others buttons? THOSE are the people who are shamefully awful, but the people her stay in their own yard and chat with like-minded buddies.
Go Anderson Cooper, go, go, go!
I saw this "Barbie" idiot on the Today Show and it just pissed me off to no end that Ann Curry didn't say "look at your gorgeous daughter! What are you teaching her? That she's never good enough?"
I wonder if giving her daughter vouchers for plastic surgery is some sort of Munchausen's . The mom loves the attention she's getting--fly across the Pond, go on various talk shows, hair and make up, blah blah blah all about yourself... and did you see the get up she wore on AC? WTF? She looked like a Vegas show girl.... at her 25 year reunion.
Anderson was awesome today (as he is everyday) and I only wish he'd be that honest when interviewing Kate.
Retweeted by Katie:
Notebook of Love @Notebook
When something bad happens you have three choices. You can either let it define you, let it destroy you, or you can let it strengthen you!!
Or four: Why don't you let it give you a clue???
"Sheeple logic is so convoluted."
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Sheeple logic is an oxymoron. There is no such animal.
I have not read all of the comments yet, but I have to respond to Right #111. We are not talking about kids trying to find their talents and exert their independence in the things they want to try. We are talking about a 37 year old grown woman who keeps putting not only herself out there, but is forcing her children to do it, too.
Children learn as they grow. At one time I thought I could sing, dance, and do gymnastics. BVy the time I was 14 I knew I could dance and do gymnastics, but singing was another story. I used my strenghts, the same thing I taught my daughter.
In Kate's case, she refuses to acknowledge her shortcomings/weaknesses, and even refuses to try to excel at whatever strong points she might have. Instead, she just falls back on what worked for her the past 8 years: her kids. She needs her kids to make get back on TV and she knows it. It should not be the kids responsibility to give mom the TV exposure she desires.
Kate has also had more undeserved opportunities to showcase herself, but she never did it. It seems she refused to acknowledge her weaknesses and try to improve them. And she also proved she did not like ANY constructive criticisms, on DWTS or otherwise. You need only to watch her shows, interviews, and DSTS to see this.
Kate is the one who put herself out there, Kate is the one who refused to show any respect to other people, Kate is the one who refuses to change any of her negative attributes; therefore, Kate has no one to blame but herself.
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Dmasy ~ I smile whenever I see a comment by you. You're so gracious and welcoming, even as you assert your own viewpoint. Thanks for that.
Also, Right, as far as bullying goes, all you have to do is watch J&K+* or Kate+8 to see a true example of a bully. Kate bullied Jon and her kids for years. There is not a compassionate or loving bone in her body. And I have every right to come to this conclusion after watching what she called "the realist reality show out there" for years. It's her words, and ultimate actions, not mine.
What have they done to the set on the Today Show. It looked like they plunked 2 stools down in the foyer for the piece.
Thanks Krazy Kate. I do have a soft heart, I mean I get teary-eyed at Restaurant Impossible and cannot even watch Extreme Makeover.
I am on the road to recovery, already. I have determined that she and PB were in a spat.
Retweeted by Katie:
Notebook of Love @Notebook
When something bad happens you have three choices. You can either let it define you, let it destroy you, or you can let it strengthen you!!
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Bumper sticker affirmations are about as deep as Kate gets. She truly feeds off that crap, which means nothing.
Here's one for Kate- Walk the walk-- with your "Gosselins give back" and your "traditions".
Please excuse my typos in the previous posts. I'm not going to keep apologizing for typing too fast, I assume you all know what I mean. If not, then I'll clarify!
You guys are right. The comments on Huff Post are brutal.
A facebook friend who lives in the area happened to have seen her picking up her kids at the bus stop in her "paparazzi attire" . How many mothers pick up their kids at the bus stop in a glitzy outfit and hooker shoes.
If she retweeted that platitude-y stuff, she took it down!
Just my two cents -- on this blog we express our opinions, and if snark gets in here, then so be it. Kate puts it out there; we comment on it. For the life of me I can't understand why a woman who was attractive, natural, fresh and perky would take herself and do what she did to her physical appearance. Obviously someone told her that this Cali Barbie look is what Hollywood wants. However, I still maintain that her makeover had much to do with Jon and the divorce. She figured she'd tan, boxtox, have a boob engorgement, whatever, so she could flaunt it at him, saying, "Look at me, this is what you are missing. You gave all of this up." It's ironic, then, that his long relationship was with a gal who was fresh and natural looking with no implants or fried hair. The plastic look was not what he wanted.
I agree with Readerlady about the "other" blog, GWOP. I read there on occasion, posted there with respect, but my posts never saw the light of day. What's puzzling is that if a blogger sees errors in posts, tries to correct them, they never go through, I guess for fear of stepping on toes or creating dissension among the troops. And yet, posts from an "insider" who hold more jobs than a pharmacy has pills, continue to have his/her posts put through. It makes no sense.
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Retweeted by Katie:
Notebook of Love @Notebook
When something bad happens you have three choices. You can either let it define you, let it destroy you, or you can let it strengthen you!!
Or four: Why don't you let it give you a clue???
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A tweeter by the name of Chablis called Kate out on all of her RETWEETING and CONSTANT patting herself on the back. I was going to copy/paste them here, but they appear to have been deleted earlier today. And, yet, I just looked at her twitter feed and there she is again with 4-5 RETWEETS.
Shocked to see her as an AOL story via Huffington, but I had to comment on it. You are DONE, Kate. And you have no one but yourself to blame.
She's calling it a night earlier than usual. The press and comments have not been pretty today.
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Response to Huffington Post. (Apologies to Steely Dan):
Insert foot stomp and hand wave as appropriate:
"Networks! You aren't listening to ME!
My kids want trips! They miss the (ever changing) crew!
They miss being pulled out of school to film!
The crew are their only friends, because I won't let MY kids mix with
hoi polloi.
(pedophilic editor you ask? Meh)..
You are RUINING their social development. Don't you get it?
My FANZ! You are killing them! They are beside themselves DEMANDING
to watch MY kids grow up.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
You are completely ruining the lives of a half dozen innocent people,
my poor, poor fans.
I ask, no, I DEMAND that you contact me tout de suite to make
arrangements for my new show."
(wipes tear) "Many lives depend on this."
Improbable Dream -- thank you very much.
I feel the same way about many of the regular posters here. I come here, daily, for the ladies (and the one or two men) who express themselves so well. I am also entertained. And, I have learned so many things I didn't expect!
If/when Kate fades away, I hope we all find a way to stay together.
Bumper sticker affirmations - that describes the shallowness that is KateG perfectly. And i guess after her less than wonderful performances in NYC yesterday ( insert eye roll), that is all she really has - a life full of bumper sticker retweets.
School is ending, the kids get pool time and she gets to vacay in San Diego - so sad they will not be treated to a weekend there, a small summer treat. Bitch has the money, 3 hair fries would buy air fare.
Admin has never stalked Kate or her fans on twitter. This blog has gained tremendous respect because of her ethics.
But when a hater stalks Kate and her fans on twitter, makes rude and crude comments to Kate's fans over an extended period of time WHILE AT WORK, how can they pretend to be a victim? The hater has a horrible record and should have been fired several years ago.
Instead of asking why a family would get her fired for her mischief, why doesn't she ask herself why she continued to provoke when she was clearly wrong?
SHE is the one who shoulda stepped back and examined her actions. She's NOT. She's rolling in self-pity for no valid reason.
THIS blog was set up to snark on Kate. With the exception of a few misfits we hang here and chat only in places where we are welcome.
Why do people CHOOSE to act inappropriately, then blame it on the person they stalked when that person fights back?
Grow up you social misfits!
I think the "thing" that was off during her interview was that STEVE was NOT THERE. She had zero confidence. Either he just told her this was his LAST TRIP or he was MIA.
Got my Globe magazine today, here's the article about Kate.
Kate Gosselin's Titanic Blunder
Realtity TV mom Kate Gosselin is shattered in the wake of the cancellation of her celebrity cruise.
The former star of the TLC show Kate Plus 8 was set to host an Aug. 12 trip on Royal Caribbean's Allure of the Seas ocean liner; but sales of tickets - which ranged from $1,900 to $3,175 - were so weak, the entire trip was sunk.
"That event has been canceled," says a cruise line rep. "We just didn't get the turnout that we desired and mutually we agreed that if we didn't get it, we would cancel."
The 37 year old - who also appeared as a contestant on Dancing withthe Stars - is said to be devastated and even contacted ticket holders, who received refunds.
"Kate asked for everybody's names, addresses and phone numbers and reached out to each one personally," the spokesperson adds.
"It was nothing to with her. We needed to hit certain numbers and they just weren't where they needed to be."
I agree with everyone that said the kids don't miss filming, Kate does. How can she possibly think that the rest of America just sits and waits to see where her and her children will travel next? How out of touch can she be?
If the kids really ask when are we going here or there, then it's Kate's responsibility to tell them when they can afford the vacation and they (she) has to save for it. She needs to explain that most families do NOT get to go on 4 all expenses paid vacations every year. Personally, I don't believe the kids are really asking for this, I think it's Kate.
Also, what makes her think her kids are more special than any other child that asks mom and dad if we can go to Disneyland? Or Six Flags? Or a water park in Florida?
Kate and her children have travelled to more places in the last 4 years than I have travelled to in my lifetime and I'm 55. I don't miss not going to these places, but I can't understand why Kate thinks her and her children are entitled to this.
The rest of us work, support our children, pay our taxes, and vacation when we save the money for a place we can afford. It's so unbelievably self-centered for her to think that she and her family deserve a TV show so they can get all of these things for free.
Kate, please grow up and face the "real" reality of life with kids.
Tamara -- lol! I hope you don't end up destitute I will feel awfully guilty, but if you do you can come stay with me. We can critique (i.e. point and laugh at) leg-pumpers as a team.
BTW out of curiosity did she quit pumping when she wasn't speaking like Kate? I'm sure body language experts have something to say about that.
I'm not criticizing anyone who is feeling sorry for Kate but I don't. Every time things don't go her way she runs crying to someone like Meredith or Natalie. That stunt doesn't work on me anymore. She's just a big spoiled narcissistic brat. Sheeple me once shame on you Kate. Sheeple me twice...
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LisaNH said... 97
It's funny, with Preesi's Gosselin site closing, it makes me nostalgic, in a way. I have been reading this blog and others for years. Hard to believe that I can say that it's been years, but it has been.
I can remember watching the show in the early years and some of Kate's behaviors or comments didn't sit right. Long story short after reading many blogs (for and against Kate) I found this one. I've seen posters come and go and I have taken breaks at times too, still lurked but have stopped posting as much. Not for lack of interest,but because I didn't have anything useful to contribute.
I have to say this is one of the best Gosselin blogs IMHO. Every one here has always been polite and agreeable (not the trolls of course). There feels like a true kinship among the posters here.
So what if we snark, so what if we mock Kate, so what if we mock Rat Claw. That is part of what makes this blog so enjoyable. We can snark, we can be serious and we get along.
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Question for you and everyone else saying this: Are you teaching your children that it is okay to mock people as long as you have determined that they "deserve" it? Are you teaching your children that they are not responsible for their words and actions directed at other kids who "put themselves out there?" Using your logic, it is OK to laugh at the kid who gets on stage and sings despite not having the best voice, because she put herself in a position to be mocked.
Is it really any wonder that cyber bullying is so rampant among children? They are following the lead of adults who consistently excuse their own behavior.
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No I don't teach my children it's okay to mock people because they deserve because I don't have any children.
And what does snarking about Kate Gosselin have to do with cyber bullying? No one here has done anything to harm Kate (she's done a fine job of doing that to herself), no one here has threatened her or intimidated here.
This is a blog where people express their opinions, that's all it is.
JudyK said, "A tweeter by the name of Chablis called Kate out on all of her RETWEETING and CONSTANT patting herself on the back. I was going to copy/paste them here, but they appear to have been deleted earlier today. And, yet, I just looked at her twitter feed and there she is again with 4-5 RETWEETS.
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Chablis is one of the non-fans blocked by Kate some time ago. It's doubtful if Kate even saw the tweets calling her out.
LoveMyGrandsons, 171 -- what you said is so right and so logical.
I wish Kate would read your sentence about other children asking to go to Disneyland. I wish she would read that and understand how unrealistic she is.
You have touched the heart of the issue.
I don't teach my kids to mock people but I sure teach them to beware of scammers. Especially repeat scammers. The funny part of it is my oldest son had Kate's number long before I did. He told me what he thought of her about the third episode of season one.
Like I said in a previous post, if Kate had half a brain in her head, she would utilize her "oh so great" couponing and savings skills to find trips to go on that wouldn't cost a whole lot of money. There are a ton of websites out there in cyber space that you can find good deals on.
But no, Kate wants everything to be comped by a television network. Maybe she's mad that Coupon Cabin isn't comping any trips (or anything else) so that's why she's not overly enthusiastic about blogging for them or discussing their new app on a national morning program?
Thank you, Dmasy. You know, my grandsons are at a perfect age to enjoy Disneyland, but their parents nor we can afford it right now. One day, I hope we can.
Should I ask for a TV show that will send us there free of charge? I think my grandsons are gorgeous and would look great on TV and they each have their own personalities that crack us up sometimes. However, I don't want that for them. I want my grandsons to have their anonymity and enjoy their childhoods without cameras. Too bad Kate doesn't feel that way.
I sometimes wonder why it is so important for someone Kate's age to still be blonde when she's not really a blonde. Don't most people grow out of experimentation or whatever you call it by there 30s? I've only colored my hair a few times, nothing drastic and I am almost certain after you dye your hair so much it will in the end ruin it. I don't think hair was meant to, I'm going to say suffer because her hair just looks so miserable.
Actually so does her face. If she was as happy as she claims to be you'd think it would show more but all she's got is this almost permanent look about her. My second grade teacher used to say if you kept your face like that it would get stuck like that...starting to think some of that might be true.
She's not going to get another reality show, stop begging already.
More she spends on herself the less she'll have in the long run. And it will be nobody's problem but her own. Jon was right, by the time her kids are grown and gone she'll wonder, maybe why she didn't enjoy things back then. At least I would hope so. You never see her actually play with her kids. Of course my parents did play with me either and to tell you the truth, it was quite sad. Kids love that they love to invite you to their world, their games at least for a little while before they become teenagers and want nothing to do with you until they're 20 something again.
CaseyDog said... 169
I think the "thing" that was off during her interview was that STEVE was NOT THERE. She had zero confidence. Either he just told her this was his LAST TRIP or he was MIA.
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Or they refused to serve pizza wrapped in tin foil for breakfast.
And Steve had to get out of there leaving Kate all alone.
Marie, you are so right, it's the little things that count with kids. My grandsons (4 & 5) will adk me to play frisbee or kickball with them, and I do it(it's actually pretty funny to see me running for the ball!). One of the sweetest things was my older grandson asked for a dill pickle and we each ate a dill pickle at the kitchen table.
Then I was out on the deck and my younger grandson asked me to come eat a dill pickle with him like I did with xxxxx. I went inside and we sat next to each other at the table and ate our dill pickles. He put his chubby arm around my neck and had the biggest smile on his face. That was all that he wanted, my attention. And I love to give it to them!
Sorry that I keep relating everything to my grandsons, but they are my pride and joy!
I don't care what anyone says to the contrary. If Kate knows she is despised by 99% of the viewing audience, is acutely aware of how many people post negative comments after she appears on TV, it has to screw with her head in the most negative way possible. Imagine walking around your community knowing that people really didn't respect or like you. She must get side glances here and there. It can't just be everywhere but PA that feels this way.
Her "they're just jellus" thoughts in an attempt to combat the negativity will wear her down eventually. And it is. When you think that way, you shut people out and feel that you are different. You get a false feeling of superiority. But everything based on false perceptions will surely come around to bite you in the ass. It always does. What we are seeing now is the cracking of that cold, hard shell she was so proud of, her thick skin she loved to brag about. She has finally been defeated and the world is closing in on her. How I wish she had more insight into her behaviour. Like others on this blog, I do not hate Kate. But I hang around here to watch this most interesting case study of how a nobody got celebrity status so quickly and then lost it as quickly as she got it. All for money, fame and adulation. If you watch shows where they do stories on kids who want to make it big in the entertainment industry, they all have the same dream. To be idolized and sought after. But Kate always knew deep down that she never measured up to the big players. Inside, she will always be that insecure little girl who doesn't think she belongs in the big league. That defeating thought truly was her undoing. Kate, read Self-Esteem by MacKay and Fanning. It will change your life. And show us that the Gosselins Can Give Back even though you might not have the energy after you do your daily marathon training runs. Ack. I was being nice there for a minute and then remembered who I was talking about.
CaseyDog said... 169
I think the "thing" that was off during her interview was that STEVE was NOT THERE.
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I really do think there's something to this that we haven't yet explored. A secret that leaves her dead-eyed and numb.
Think about how odd it was that neither interviewer asked about Kate's love life. Up to this point, she's been open and quasi-optimistic (if not also teary-eyed) in talking about the possibility of a romantic relationship. (Remember her Dr. Drew interview, for example?).
Was the topic off-limits this week? And if so, for what reason? (Can you say Purse Boy? I knew that you could.)
LoveMyGrandsons, relate away to your grandsons. Your stories are very sweet and bring a smile! I love reading them!
Just looked at ROL and the article about Kate being ready for another reality show. Wow, have things changed. A year ago, half the comments were supportive, half were not. Now, all of them are negative. Amazing. Never thought I would see the day.
I have mixed feelings about Anderson Cooper's show today. I admire his intelligence, but he is in the entertainment business now, a choice he has made.
This Barbie woman is an obvious manipulator, but I believe he could have made his point without ending his interview with her. Yes, she was disingenuous and he is disgusted by her parenting, but he still has an obligation to be a professional. He can ask the tough questions, expose people for who they really are, while remembering these people are his invited guests. So, I imagine he will reflect on his actions today because he is smart enough to do so.
Now, on to Kate. Something was off in her interviews yesterday, especially the one with Ann Curry on the Today Show. I suspect something threw her off before she even sat down with Ann. My guess is that she was told to stick to the script, (in this case the Coupon Cabin App.), and that pissed her off. She does not care about CC, she uses them for her convenience and did not want to waste her air time talking coupons. I believe she knows her opportunities to pitch (beg) for another show are quickly winding down. Whatever happened, it caused her to look desperate and close to being unhinged.
I was even taken aback with her reference to her up-coming half-marathon in San Diego. At some level she must know this is a step back in the running world. Once you run one marathon, you run the next one hoping to improve your time, not cut back to a half.
Her heart is not in to running, nor is it in couponing, or recipes. She wants back on television, that is the only thing that matters, period.
Even her talk about the half-marathon was strained. All runners who have done a marathon do the next one wanting to improve their time. Dropping back to a half-marathon is odd, and Kate seemed to
Kate's last tweet that she knows she's been quiet today. To me, it reeks of sadness, and I somewhat feel sorry for her.
I think it is all sinking in, finally, that she is not the star she thought she was, and I'm sure that has to hurt. The problem is she brought this all on herself. Had she listened to other people or really did some self examination, she might not be in this situation now. She may have had other opportunities that panned out, or had a back up plan in case the show didn't last forever. Alas, she didn't.
Once again, I know she has shown herself to be a very nasty person and brought all of this on herself, but a part of me still feels sorry for her. A bigger part of me feels even more sorry for the kids because they will ultimately feel the fallout from all of this.
Truly a sad situation all the way around.
PJ's momma said... 185
LoveMyGrandsons, relate away to your grandsons. Your stories are very sweet and bring a smile! I love reading them!
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Oh, me too! :)
Ooops.......ignore that low hanging last paragraph of mine!
Marie said... 180
I sometimes wonder why it is so important for someone Kate's age to still be blonde when she's not really a blonde.
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It's a Gosselin family tradition.
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Amy2 said... 170
Kate Gosselin's Titanic Blunder
Realtity TV mom Kate Gosselin is shattered in the wake of the cancellation of her celebrity cruise. "It was nothing to with her. We needed to hit certain numbers and they just weren't where they needed to be."
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The cancellation of the Katie Irene cruise due to lack of sales has everything to do with Katie.
You're very sweet PJ; thank you!
LoveMyGrandsons, very nicely said. Under normal circumstances I would feel sad for the downfall of Kate but in reality I can't. I can't because I think of all the nice people Kate used and tossed aside because they were no longer of value to her. It is an interesting socioiological study on the price paid by Kate because of her ambition. I will continue to follow this saga (thank you Admin for this site) until it is played out to the end.
Sleepless (#175), trust me, Kate might have people on her Twitter feed blocked, but she responds enough to those who are being critical to suggest that she is all but glued to her twazzup feed, where ALL of it appears. The whole blocking thing is her way of trying to shield newbies on her Twitter feed. She has made clear on numerous occasions that she is well aware of what is being said by EVERYONE.
Is anyone buying the Hollywood Life story about Kate being a viable (but last-ditch) option for the DWTS All-Stars season? I am thinking no way, but if they've been seeking people for 6-8 weeks now, maybe they're not getting enough of the really talented runners-up? When I see all of the previous top contenders in the audience, like tonight, I think, NO WAY. But . . . she does seem to have little "angels" in various networks watching out for her. What say you all?
Yay Donald Driver on DWTS! I love him! GO PACKERS!!!
Of course the kids want a new shows and they want to travel.
Kate speaks for them and she says that what they want.
And we all know that Kate tells the truth all the time so it must be true.
LoveMyGrandsons, you make me wistful for my grandma and childhood. She'd give us a little piece of dough to make tortillas but of course we had no rolling skills, so they came out all funny shapes, and not round like hers. She'd say, "Don't worry, mija (little one), they don't go in rolling!" She'd cook them and present them to us like they were the main course in a Zagat-rated restaurant. She taught us to crochet, make cobbler with the fruit we picked and so many other things. She french-braided our hair so tight that we could hardly close our eyes and on special occasions, she lined us up and did rag curls before she tucked us in, so we'd all have pretty hair for Christmas or whatever. She was really wonderful. I love that you delight in your grandsons in the same way. Thank you for taking me down memory lane!
I'm not a mom yet but I love spending time with my little nieces and nephew.
I love playing dolls and tea party with my little nice
I love playing xbox or will with my nephew and cooking with them.
And I love taking my older nieces to a movie or just hanging out.
It's the simple things that kids will remember.
Marie, Marie, Marie - I'm probably old enough to be your mother and I guess I didn't get over experminting in my 30's because I still dye my hair and it hasn't ended in ruin yet. I don't over process it as Kate does but I do dye and will probably continue to dye. Some of us just don't like the gray.
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