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According to a cruise-goer, the numbers Kate expected did not meet her expectations and Kate will reach out to all that booked.
According to a cruise-goer, the numbers Kate expected did not meet her expectations and Kate will reach out to all that booked.
684 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 684 of 684 Newer› Newest»I loved JK+8 but could watch very little of K+8. The difference was like night and day. Her demeanor and attitude toward the kids and lack of compassion for their plight was so blatantly in your face that it was unbearable to watch. I felt like I was standing idly by watching kids being abused and that is not something I could do in real life and that by watching, I was somehow condoning that. Like I said earlier, if K+8 had never happened, the show would still be going stronger than ever. I am glad I had that respite though because it allowed me to detach myself from the kids because I truly loved watching JK8, but despite K+8. I never understood how you could live with someone for 10 years and have 8 kids with them and wake up one morning (or have an epiphany on a plane "somewhere") that you absolutely cannot stand to be with them for even one nanosecond. The divorce was the end all for everything, and quite frankly, I don't see how either one of them can carve out a life of celebrity for themselves without the kids. It was always about the kids and the family. It was never about KT or Jon. It was about 8 kids and the family of those 8 kids. How she lost sight of that I will never know understand.
Ha ha-I googled "she-ro" and this is one of the definitions in the Urban Dictionary:
Shero
A mythical creature thought to dwell in the Allegheny Mountain region of Pennsylvania. Known for its erratic behavior and pension for all things violent the Shero is thought to be the Anglicized German word for snipe. As in a snipe hunt.
I guess you could say that Kate is a she-ro.
(I am Remona...)aggiemom09121416 said... 183 ''what was THE defining moment that made you said THIS SHOW IS WRONG? what did it for you?''
I remember the exact moment I realized that the show was ''wrong''. It was during the episode when Jon was carving pumpkins with the kids, and Kate suddenly decided it all had to end because it was too messy. As I watched that take place, I realized that I was actually wishing Jon would get up and punch her in the mouth! I was horrified at my thought, and from that moment on, I knew beyond a doubt that the show was WRONG!!
Remona
Wouldn't giving out everyone's names and addresses and phone numbers be an invasion of privacy?
I thought the same thing! I wouldn't even want my favorite celeb to have my addresses that's private.
I have the email Kate sent to our mole so I'll do a post shortly.
I just read the blurb on ROL about Kate's cruise being cancelled and was once again taken aback by the lack of professionalism at Alice Travel. Kate asked for and actually received the names and addresses of the people who had booked.
When we had our travel agency we would never have given personal information to Kate (or anyone else for that matter), it simply is not done. We would call the client and ask their permission prior to sharing a single piece of information with anyone, and that would have included Kate Gosselin!
Perhaps they were able to contact everyone for their permission to share their info with Kate personally. My guess is that they handed over the list to Kate assuming they all would swoon over the chance of hearing her voice.
aggiemom:
For me the defining moment was the Toys R Us episode where she embarrassed Jon- 'Hellooo, stop playing with toys and come help me. You need to do what you're told'.
He was helping just fine and doing what she asked. She didn't seem to get it when he explained his discomfiture.
I thought before that , Kate was rather controlling, a bit 'OCD', organized etc as she shopped, cooked, cleaned and took care of the kids.I enjoyed watching the kids, not realizing what their lives under the cameras were really like. You see, I was duped. But not for long. I continued to watch in horror as the evidence of Kate possessing any of the above qualities
diminished. I thought her treatment of Jon and the kids and other people was deplorable. I saw more and more flaws in Kate, and then watched as celebrity and money transformed her. I did watch Kate plus Eight to see how the kids were coping. I am sad to say that yes, I was a viewer.
aggiemom09121416 said... 183 ''what was THE defining moment that made you said THIS SHOW IS WRONG? what did it for you?''
aggiemom - Her "drama" made the show (J+K+8) uncomfortable for me to watch from the get-go. But the kids were all adorable. I watched it with my youngest, we would share funny memories of our own..."do you remember saying..." kind of things. I couldn't believe she could sit and pick out friggin' bunk beds with a child who was obviously in pain. Couldn't believe the pumpkin carving meltdown. Couldn't believe how she spoke to Jon (and, yes, on the team that secretly wished for him to pop her!). My defining "shut it off" moment was the vow renewal. I'm a realist...I can't promise my kids that Mommy and Daddy will always be together, because, a bus could hit either of us tomorrow. I would never say "Mommy & Daddy will be together forever and ever"...you don't control that. (I tell my kids "I will love you forever, or Mom & Dad will love you forever"...that is something I CAN PROMISE) I even commented on it to my daughter - "why would she be telling them that? something must be going on that we do not see..."
I don't know if we ever watched another full episode. We caught bits and pieces (like Khate running ahead of the kids to pick the puppy). After the divorce announcement, I told my daughter to not even stop on the show while flipping channels. Read recaps at GWOP and then here.
"what was THE defining moment that made you said THIS SHOW IS WRONG? what did it for you?"
Toward the end of Jon and Kate plus 8, she said something like, "Love me or hate me, as long as you watch I don't care." By watching the show, I realized I was just lining her ungrateful pockets. I stopped and never watched Kate plus 8.
I noticed subtle changes in her as the show was taking off, and she was doing the book tour and interviews. She started dressing better, and she acted more obnoxious than usual. I'm glad sites like this popped up. For a while, it was like Kate could do no wrong, but I kept thinking something is wrong with that woman.
Kate's tweet about birthday pictures: of course there will be pictures on her blog. Those poor kids will not ever have a private celebration anytime; it always has to be shared with strangers.
I take pics of my grandsons on their birthday, holidays, and at other times. Then I will bring some to work and share them with my friends at break. But put them on a blog for people I don't even to see? Never!
I often wondered what it was like for viewers that watched the show from the beginning, almost like being conned, in a way.
My mom watched the show from the beginning. I had a household of kids, didn't have TIME (no nanny!) to watch it, nor was I interested in watching,lol. But my mom watched, and was always asking me to watch it, and she got my twins hooked on it. I thought, well, if my mom watches it, it must be ok, so I let them start watching it at home..I would hear snippets here and there (JJJOOOOONNNN!!!), that sort of thing, and my twins were always telling me about this really mean mom (no joke).
By the time it hit the divorce drama, I was ready for this witch to get what was coming to her.
I watched the divorce announcement episode and the last rv episodes as well.
I did watch a lot of the old clips on youtube, found another gosselin blog and read recaps..found this blog some time last year and started reading.
DANG.
How someone so mean, vile, cruel could be given so much (healthy kids, volunteers, a hubby who did everything) and not appreciate it drove me nuts (and still does).
I think Kate has exhausted all possible means of celebrity income...except for what octomom is now doing.
off topic, but a child on TV...
Did anyone see the TODAY show this morning, the interview that Natalie Morales did with the youngest member of MENSA (USA) and her parents?
(the little girl is 3, they are saying her IQ is 135...really? you are going to pay MENSA dues and fill out the application for a 3 year old?)
WHY would you put your child on National TV for this?? I have some bright kids, I know some bright kids...why do you need to put them on TV to do a dog & pony show?
And then the child needed to go to the bathroom...she said "my tummy hurts"...her parents and Natalie talked around her. She started pulling her microphone off, out from under her dress. "my tummy hurts"...her Mom tried to get her to stop fidgeting, but kept talking. Then the little girl said "I have to poop"...at least 3 times. Natalie tried to finish up, she did hear the girl, but the parents ignored her (the mother did say, "oh, I knew this would happen!" on the second mention of poop, but did not move or stop the interview). The camera operator finally zoomed in on Natalie.
I felt so bad for the little girl - she was a pawn in her parents need for recognition.
So Kate sent impersonal emails? I bet she had one email and then just stuck in the name.
In my previous post, I meant for people I don't even KNOW to see. Typing too fast after work I guess.
My defining moment with J&K+8 was the Toys R Us and gumgate episodes. I never watched the show, but one of the women I worked with talked about it all time. Now I hope no one is eating when they read this, but my friend always said she was amazed at how organized and tough Kate had to be to keep this family going and take care of all those kids.
I decided to tune in and thought the kids were cute, Kate was often rude, and Jon henpecked. Shortly after, TLC had a J&K+8 marathon one weekend, and I saw both the Toys R Us and the gumgate episode. I was shocked and stopped watching the show altogether. I also told my friend at work my feelings about these 2 episodes, and she basically defended Kate. I was surprised because my friend is an intelligent and compassionate woman, so I couldn't understand her defense of Kate. Then after coming to the blogs, I see that despite her intelligence, she was a sheeple.
aggiemom, that is a good question. And nah, she'd be no good at porn, gross!
My defining moment was probably when she treated Jon badly in the pumpkin picking episode where she yelled HELLO at him, and was then so fussy and ruined the kids' fun when Jon was in charge of the pumpkin carving. I saw her as mean, then fake, then dumb. I watched with my mom( who posts here)but stopped before she did. It got boring-all those free parks, trips, meager meals- and I didn't like the way Kate acted to Aunt Jodi as well as the family. (eg.gumgate) I was happy when the divorce freed Jon but feel sorry for the kids. I also liked the old house- more of a home- than the mansion.
I saw Kate's birthday post and pictures on her website. Once again, the girls were featured more than the icky boys. Doesn't Kate at least THINK before blogging this stuff?
Koopdoo, I was just about to post something about that little girl on the Today show. But you said it for me :) Also what about the Time Magazine cover of the three year old latched onto his mom?
I have nothing against breast feeding, but I thought that was taking it too far. Not the breastfeeding, but putting it on the cover of a national magazine. My 21 year old son commented on that yesterday, said he feels bad for the little boy. He said he couldn't imagine having to deal with people relating to him as the little boy sucking his mom's boob on the cover of a magazine.
I dont know, I didnt really have a defining moment, just that it grow slowely but surely that Kate wasnt just frazzeled and cute because she was stressed and her big family. The dislike and resentment grew and grew with every episode, crayon factory, herseys, Carolina's, cleaning lady, sick kids, emancipatin of Jon, they all added points! Just because you have 8 kids you doesnt mean you have to be a big B..tch. Sorry!
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I have said this before, but since you asked. I did start watching this show (when I could catch it) from the beginning because at the time, I had 2 year old triplets. I did think Kate had some horrible moments, but attributed it all to stress and lack of sleep. This was all way before we knew she had so much help. My defining moment was the Utah trip. I could not stand the fact that she had that crying meltdown on the plane in front of all her children. It was despicable. Then to follow that up, she lay like a sloth on the couch while Jon dresses 8 toddlers to go skiing. As someone said up thread, I don't know how he didn't lose it sometimes. That is when I couldn't stomach her anymore. I had experienced the sleepless nights and endless days when my kids were little. Sometimes I think the first 18 months were a blur, so I could relate. But I did it myself, without help. Granted I only had three, but still could manage the stress way better than she did with all the help she had. With that, I thought, I dont need to get ideas from Kate, she is useless. Stopped watching with that episode, and only watched part of the RV thereafter. Although, I never saw this famous vacuum scene everyone talks about.
I would also find myself yelling at the TV, when she would be yelling at Jon for not doing things her way, while she just sat in a chair, or stood in the kitchen. She did a lot of standing around and dictating, where I thought, why don't you just help, instead if bitch!
Part of Kate's blog about the kids birthday:
I remember the 23 weeks I spent lying on my right side, first at home on bed rest and then in the hospital… Enduring all of the boredom, worry and discomfort.
I remember the pain of feeling seas of baby parts kicking and punching my back bone, stomach, bladder and the constant unrest that the developing zoo inside of me created.
I remember the struggle of feeling nauseous and unable to eat the entire 30 weeks but knowing I had to because my babies were counting on my calories, all 4,000 of them daily!
I remember how badly and constantly my 52 inch in circumference belly burned (like a sunburn) because it was stretching so fast.
I remember having zero lung or stomach capacity with which to breath or store food…and the resulting havoc that caused me.
I remember just wanting to give up because my body hurt so badly! Period.
You know, reading here and over at Small Town Gosselins, my mouth was agape at times just reading the stories that people told about their families and experiences and stories of survival (well into adulthood). I just could not fathom this narcissism they spoke of.
Well, now I can.
part one..
Happy 8th Birthday My Precious 6!
May 11, 2012
As I reflect back on yesterday and all the excitement, preparation, and planning that went into yesterday, my sextuplets 8th birthday celebration, I realize that much of my reflection is focused on two emotional aspects surrounding the day.
First of all, and most amazingly, I found myself marveling at the perfect health of all six of my premature babies. It may seem as though I mention this often, but I can’t help it! It is truly a miracle – a full blown miracle that everyone of my infants born at 29 weeks and 5 days gestation not only survived, but are thriving at full capacity as they turn 8 years old. I can absolutely say that not a day goes by that I don’t think of the true miracle that is Alexis Faith, Hannah Joy, Aaden Jonathan, Collin Thomas, Leah Hope and Joel Kevin!
They are truly excelling academically, socially and in every other way in school! They are developing normally as they grow and learn how the world works outside of school! It is a true joy to be called their mother! Which brings me to the second area I found myself pondering yesterday as I baked and decorated…
part 2...
I remember the 23 weeks I spent lying on my right side, first at home on bed rest and then in the hospital… Enduring all of the boredom, worry and discomfort.
I remember the pain of feeling seas of baby parts kicking and punching my back bone, stomach, bladder and the constant unrest that the developing zoo inside of me created.
I remember the struggle of feeling nauseous and unable to eat the entire 30 weeks but knowing I had to because my babies were counting on my calories, all 4,000 of them daily!
I remember how badly and constantly my 52 inch in circumference belly burned (like a sunburn) because it was stretching so fast.
I remember having zero lung or stomach capacity with which to breath or store food…and the resulting havoc that caused me.
I remember just wanting to give up because my body hurt so badly! Period.
But, I think just before I gave birth to my six precious babies, my scrapping tenacious never-give-up determination was born…. I’ve carried it with me and even further refined it over the years… It’s my story on how I became a mom. It made me who I am as a mom. No different than any other mom. We each rise to the call of duty, otherwise known as our children! Each child has their unique traits and needs. It’s our job to meet them. Because of this, it brings us extra joy to celebrate each year..
So, when we celebrate our kids special days, we are also reflecting back on our own “Labor Day,” the glorious day we met face to face…. All the pain and discomfort long forgotten once we catch a glimpse of that face.. Well, 6 faces in my case! :)
Each year when I watch my kids open their presents, they unknowingly gift me in return in the form of smiles, squeals, laughs, enjoyment and gratitude! Beyond that, I’ve already received the best gifts ever… I got a full set of 6, eight years ago and added them to my perfect 2 pack I already had in my collection! Talk about being blessed! :)
part 3
It was a wonderful birthday here yesterday and my kids are sure it was their favorite one yet, of course! They opened and squealed and were so thankful for each little thing.. But my favorite part was watching them open their gifts from Mady and Cara – who had planned, bought and wrapped all by themselves.
The boys received Lego board games. They loved them! It was exactly what they wanted! The girls, however, received Mady and Caras “hand me down” American Girl clothing collection. It was a very heart warming process to watch the little girls open their “wish list” of items from their big sisters!
As a mom, I was so moved as I watched the careful planning and consideration behind which girl would receive which items! It was divided fairly and thoughtfully and wrapped carefully! It was equally rewarding to see Mady and Cara wriggle with excitement as they asked to give out their gifts first because they couldn’t contain their excitement!
They demonstrated such giving spirits and received much joy from their little sisters excited and grateful reactions! This was truly my favorite part of the day… our family bond was so evident in so many ways but especially in this one exchange! I am proud of my kids – all 8 of them – and am so blessed to have had each one here with me, happy and healthy, for another year!
Happy Birthday, “babies!”
XO
K8 (mommy)
Ok - I think I've got the birthday candle thing figured out. Their tradition is that they sing Happy Birthday 6 times, so I guess she re-lights the candle and lets each tup have their moment. She then gets an entire CC blog on saving money on birthday candles.
Yes, individual ones of the girls, group shot of the boys. She 'reflects back' shudder- the grammar that woman uses- on her treacherous pregnancy, lol, and informs us how perfect in every way these kids are. Mady and Cara are not pictured, but have given the little girls old doll clothes (which is fine) although Kate says they bought and wrapped gifts. Yes, all six blowout the upside-down 8 candle!
Koopdedoo said... 12
(the little girl is 3, they are saying her IQ is 135...really? you are going to pay MENSA dues and fill out the application for a 3 year old?)
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If it was my kid- I would. Nothing wrong with that. There are some JR gifted societies as well, so children can be with other children.
Her blog entry has over 50 variations of I, me, my. There is a fully detailed accounting and list of her bed rest and pregnancy discomforts. The photos showcase one of her couches as much as they do the children.
Sorry, I looked...
From Kate's blog post about the tups birthday:
But, I think just before I gave birth to my six precious babies, my scrapping tenacious never-give-up determination was born…. I’ve carried it with me and even further refined it over the years… IT'S MY STORY ON HOW I BECAME A MOM. It made me who I am as a mom. No different than any other mom. We each rise to the call of duty, otherwise known as our children! Each child has their unique traits and needs. It’s our job to meet them. Because of this, it brings us extra joy to celebrate each year..
Anybody else scratching their head over the sentence I capitalized? I thought she was already a mom to Mady & Cara. Hope they don't read that post, it's another example of how "mediocre" they are in the eyes of their mother.
Yesterday she put them down by saying the tups birthday is the most celebrated (or something like that) and today she wasn't a mom until the six were born!
I see a family portrait in one photo with Jon- hmm, someone here mentioned she hoped Jon was at least 'allowed' in pictures of the family.
Posed pictures, one boy does not look too happy.
Sweet kids.
Let's face it, she is grown woman who has used her kids for years to keep herself relevant. Her show ended and it is time for her to stand on her own two feet, stop posting pictures of her kids and everything they said and did on any particular day and let them have their privacy back.
It is really sad that she is still getting professional portraits done of her and her kids for Easter for 98,000 twitter people to see and selling photos to tabloids.
Kate was given so much as a result of her kids. It is time she step up to the plate, fend on her own, and leave them out of the picture posting,tweets, CC, etc.. once and for all.
She really is pathetic, as deep down she knows she has nothing to offer without her kids. SHE needs to step up to the plate and take care of her kids once and for all, and stop exploiting them/depending on them to keep herself relevant. It really is highly offensive sharing pictures and private moments with 98,000 twitters or whatever # of" fans" she has, let alone anyone else who wonders on to her twitter, CC, and blog.
Bottom line, show ended in August of last year, and she refuses to leave her kids out of the public equation. Deperate, disgusting and pathetic are words that come to mind. She simply has no decency when it comes to her own kids. Get a job and stop with the mass exploitation of your kids. They were not put on the face of the earth for her to use to meet her own desires, selfish person that she is. Where and when does it stop? She really needs to be legally stopped, since she can not think beyond herself. I don't get how she is getting away with posting pictures/info about her kids non-stop for all of the world to see/read. Decency should come first, but since that is not a factor, aren't there some protections for the kids?
WOW! In the short (804-word) birthday essay Kate wrote to her "Precious 6," she references herself a total of 56 times.
I = 21 times
me = 6 times
my = 22 times
myself = 2 times
Mom = 4 times
mother = 1 time
When we had our travel agency we would never have given personal information to Kate (or anyone else for that matter), it simply is not done.
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Thanks for sharing that. I wondered about that when I read that they were giving her that information, especially the phone numbers. I would have been livid if they had given out that information without my permission to anyone, including the leader of the free world! Of course, Cindy sent that blanket e-mail, so I wouldn't put anything past them. Given the way this thing has been run, I'd be really surprised if they asked permission first.
Admin, can you get that info from the mole...whether permission was asked?
A mythical creature thought to dwell in the Allegheny Mountain region of Pennsylvania. Known for its erratic behavior and pension for all things violent the Shero is thought to be the Anglicized German word for snipe. As in a snipe hunt.
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Don't you mean penchant? I doubt if the Shero qualifies for Social Security!
here's another 'tradition'.
Mother’s Day at the Gosselins
Many of you may remember the year we filmed and aired Mother’s Day on our show, “Jon and Kate Plus 8.” The kids were too little to actually make me breakfast in bed, as is our Gosselin tradition, but oh, how things have changed!
Thank you all for looking for me; I literally cannot stomach another chapter of "Me, me me and my 8 year old pregnancy/hospital stay/stomach stretch/ simply horrible billion days of bed rest". And oh, happy birthday kids.
My epiphany came late, maybe because while recognizing there was something really wrong with Kate, I was still enjoying the kids. For me, it was the San Diego detour on the way to Hawaii ( which sealed the deal), when it really hit me the show had become a luxury travelogue of suites, concierge, room service, special admissions - I remember thinking, Hawaii was not enough? Oh and that trip to NYC to buy a wedding dress, WTF was that all about. It was about Kate, and from that point on I was done. Never watched an episode of K+ 8.
If Kate happened to be my sister, best friend or even my daughter -- I would be full to impatience with her pregnancy details. Enough!
'all the planning & preparation?' Does Kate mean running out of baking powder? Seriously, what they did was fine, fun ( except the cold pool) but don't expect a special events award. It was a low-key at-home family party.
Ok a little snark... Nothing like having 6 sick kids blowing on one cake...ewww. I think cupcakes would make a better "tradition". Also, are those kids ever allowed to sit on the furniture?!
You know what, I have to say this. Kate has kept saying how much of a miracle it is that all her children were born, at least in her eyes, healthy without any physical or other learning difficulties that are so often associated with premature babies.
I happen to think that all babies who are born, the baby who was born with a heart defect, the baby that was born with cerebral palsy, a cleft palate, or who may have learning difficulties that on the surface nobody can see, you know what all those other premature babies who have been born and who will face different maybe even challenging circumstances in their lives, they are all normal. Just normal in a different way does not and it should not erase the fact that to other parents those children are just as much of a blessing to their parents as Kate's are.
It should make no difference how many babies you have, what matters is that they made it, they might not be healthy exactly but they are still there, living and breathing and deserve just as much praise and a look back as any perfectly healthy baby does.
Appreciating your child really goes without saying because it's something hopefully a mother does out of love and not just on your child's birthday. Out of love moms stay up in the middle of the night, they manage to find money they didn't have to afford something that was needed and they do these things without having to write a birthday letter to public and share with the whole world.
If Kate really reflected back on this day, she would have been able to do it and not post it just remembering it would have been her own private moment of happiness. But no she has to gloat. I sure hope a mother, maybe even one of her flowers doesn't have a child who is premature and faces more challenges that hers will. Imagine how it would make them feel. Not well I imagine.
All kids are special even if they are the ones who end up in a wheel chair or have to have special needs met, they still all deserve praise for the things they have done well even if in a different way on their birthday.
Kate your letter speaks also to the fact of how miserable you felt during your pregnancy, how awful it was for you. How do you think your kids will feel reading that they were a big inconvenience to you? Learn to appreciate things yes that your kids are healthy and move on from the fact they WERE premature. It shows a lot about you that all you are happy about is that they are academically excelling and are without issues--so you say. Quite a disappointment for a letter to her kids.
"Yes, all six blowout the upside-down 8 candle!"
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I'm missing something. The wick is on the top. If it's upside down, did it come that way from the factory...wick put on the wrong end? I've bought these candles, and there's only one wick, and it's on the top.
"I got a full set of 6, eight years ago and added them to my perfect 2 pack I already had in my collection!"
I find this statement very odd, borderline demented.
Why does Kart refer to "lying on her right side" while she was on bed rest? Women are advised to lie on their left side during pregnancy. I thought the one thing Kart was an authority on was lying around. Or is it more like lie-ing? Get your story straight, K8 the gr8!
Kate writes,
I remember the struggle of feeling nauseous and unable to eat the entire 30 weeks but knowing I had to because my babies were counting on my calories, all 4,000 of them daily!
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When was it that she got out of bed and marched into either Jon's office, or his father's office complaining that her father-in-law had forgotten to bring her lunch? Oops. Guess she forgot about that!
Birthday birthday! Read all about it&see pics from it! Go to: http://www.kateplusmy8.com/ Enjoy..I know it's not as good as watching on tv, but...
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Yup, definitely living life in episodes as a few of you said...
I was never charmed by Kate in the early episodes. In the first special she said that when she got the babies down for naps "i'm a very happy lady" coz now she can take out the trash and make phone calls. Or whatever she said. She just seemed so attention seeking. The second special where she had to deal with a messy diaper and she screeched "Never happened to me before IN MY LIFE!!" since she had been a mother for all of 6 years, was my first OMG at my TV. She was so annoyed that she had to give a bath since it was supposed to be Jon's job. Then the hinting for a boob job, and she began the cackling at someone just off camera that episode and constantly glancing at that person with a look of "aint I GRAND!?!". She was disgusted and annoyed by the surgeon's wife, and then the kicker for me: when she came home her babies made no attempt to raise their arms to her to be hugged or picked up. Clearly those babies had no frame of reference that their mother would lift them to hold them so it never occured to them to ask.
The last episode I watched was when Jon took the kids to their first baseball game. I am a huge baseball fan and how fun it would have been to gawk as the kids were at the ballpark for the first time, seeing the peanut man, hearing the cheers of the fans, all the old men in the stands trying to explain the game to the boys... instead they were behind glass in a nosebleed loge being waiting on by a crew of uniformed servers. Ugh. No sights, no smells, no peanut man, no group 7th inning stretch. What a rip off for the kids.
I tuned in to see the new house and was shocked by how blatantly rude and unpleasant Kate had become. She was abusive to her children, raging psychotic towards her husband and all she did was screech and complain. She was sooo over the top and clearly in need of mental health care.
After the baseball epi, i never watched another one except for the new house one. I have seen clips on here however.
"the constant unrest that the developing "zoo" inside of me created"!!!wtf?? Even she refers to her kids as a litter that obviously still cause her unrest because she can't stay off twitter when she has them and all she does us bitch about how difficult her life is.....I've said it before, just watch for the blog about mother's day and how wonderful it was because the kids planned it for WEEKS! She is and will always be the best mother in the world..just ask her! Barf
Only One,
You are correct - pregnant women with large babies or multiples are encouraged to lie on their left side to avoid pressure on the inferior vena cava vessel.
Stupid cow, that's 'r' kart............
Did Kate write a letter on her blog to her "Precious Twins" on their birthday? I don't read her website. Just curious!
Onlyone said... 42
Why does Kart refer to "lying on her right side" while she was on bed rest? Women are advised to lie on their left side during pregnancy. I thought the one thing Kart was an authority on was lying around. Or is it more like lie-ing? Get your story straight, K8 the gr8!
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That struck me right away too! My baby was small for date..had intrauterine growth retardation and was only 5.5 pounds. I had to lie on my left side twice a day or longer if possible. It increases the blood flow to the baby. Now she's 15 and 5'6" and you know what, I've never mentioned the laying on my side, the worry, the constant appointments, the ultrasounds, the false alarms. Never. Because it wasn't about me.
Just imagine, she spent most of her day either twatting about this b- day or writing that awful blog post. She frames her life as a tv episode, but guess what, TLC is not calling. And when she is not reliving HER past, she twats those new Agish, hard to decipher, pearls of wisdom. Could it be more over?
I KNEW she was going to post birthday pics.
I hate that her fans demand to see them. What about what the kids want? Have you noticed no one ever adds to their request that Kate post pics, that is IF THE KIDS ARE OK WITH IT. Nope, it's just about the selfish fans and them seeing what they want and screw how the kids feel. And I hate that Kate indulges them. I firmly believe nearly all of her fans would be okay if Kate herself told them that the kids need a break from posting pics if that's okay. They will honor anything Kate says as long as it comes from Kate.
Though I actually like the pic where they are all blowing out the candles, it's well composed and the light is nice. It could look really cool if she fixed it up a bit with a filter. It's the best pic Kate's taken. Though that's not saying much. For the love of God I wish she would stop being such a cheap bastard and get a real camera. Childhood is fleeting. She'll regret all these cell phone pics when they are older.
Yeah, okay, I looked, too. Exclamation points are back with a vengeance (!!!!!), and she doesn't know how or when to use a possessive apostrophe. Lots of errors--you can tell she must have been (repeatedly and, no doubt, wrenchingly) overcome with emotion whilst recording for posterity. Nothing new there.
I, like a few others here, came late to this party. I first really became aware of the J&K "phenomenon" around the time of the divorce. I caught a few of the older episodes, thought it seemed innocuous enough. I didn't see the episodes in order, and I have by no means seen all of them. But the big light-bulb moment for me was the tummy-tuck episode. Here's Kate, holding the gown open, Dr. Glassman's face 3 inches from her "dog jowls," and she says, what about the breasts? And he says, oh no, not needed, just get a good bra. And you could just TELL by the look on her face that that wasn't what she wanted to hear, it was not NEARLY good enough for her. She spends a large part of that episode talking about all of her preparation and then how haaaard it is to be laid up and away from her "babies." It didn't look too awfully hard to me. Besides getting breakfast in bed and lounging around in a lavish home, I think she also got a makeover in that episode. Clearly, the beginning of the end.
That's the one where I said to myself, whoa, is this bitch ever milking it. From that moment on, I never was able to see her as "genuine." I thought she treated Jon and everyone else abysmally, I couldn't bear the shrieking, the freaking, the constant and overbearing correction of everyone else when she herself was almost always even more egregiously in the wrong. I came to realize her "OCD" was a total sham, and whenever I happened to catch her on an interview or show promo, the sound of her voice was nails-on-chalkboard to me and all I could think was, yikes, what a piece of work.
At some point, I think fairly early in the show's evolution, she started to perform instead of live in the moment, and she really thought she was doing that AMAZINGLY (!) well, even though to me it seemed painfully obvious and contrived. She stopped interacting with her family and started playing to the cameras. And despite my disgust at her amateurish role-playing, that's when I found myself becoming curious about the backstory and started to read at GWOP and, later, here.
I continue to watch her now with a sort of fascinated loathing, wondering if there is anything she won't do to hang on to what she sees as her "fair share" of the limelight. Haven't gotten there yet, so I guess that's why I'm still here. If she had some way to monetize my (and most other people's) fixation on her vileness, well, she really might get something going. But I digress.
Great question, aggiemom, and it's really interesting to see what others have to say on this subject.
Matt Paxton who is one of the ” extreme cleaning specialists” on A&E show Hoarders has a terrific podcast called ”5 decisions away”. He just put up the special mothers day episode, a discussion with his mother.
This is real, raw, sad, inspiring, engaging, ultimately hopeful. It is a very real discussion between a son and his mother about lots of history. It is very different from anything else I listen to. It is very different than the other podcast episodes Matt does.
Go to 5decisions.com and listen to the mothers day podcast.
Ms Kreider is boring. This stuff is not.
Maggie said... 140
I disagree with this. Everyone has TRIED to help Nayda.
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I apologize if my post sounded otherwise or as if "no one knows how to help" Nadya. Nothing could be further from the truth. I recall the scores of comped help and vlounteers she dismissed from her home.
I was attempting, badly, to make a snarky suggestion for a career opportunity for Kate get her fame whoring self some more face time with the media. I should have gone with my first idea which was to sell stripper heels out of a suitcase going from bar to bar. Or perhaps on a Shopping Network at 3AM somewhere.
I'm sorry for the confusion.
My mother had all sorts of complications due to diabetes with all her pregnancies, including bed rest. She told me about it once and after that never mentioned it again. Oh and for good measure, she had a blood transfusion when I was born and got a phone call a year later about how she would need an HIV test. You know just in case. This also was told to me once, then never mentioned again.
Thinking back on big birthdays I've had, she never waxes nostalgic or goes into embarrassing stories when I was little or anything. It's always about, how exciting another year, what are your plans and goals this year, how do you feel, what can I do to make your day GREAT. All about the birthday girl.
Funny I never appreciated how normal my childhood was until I studied narcissism.
Is it just me or does eating 4,000 calories a day actually sound kinda fun? Lol.
So, Kate gave her kids nothing? Just that tiny little cake, she made a fuss about? Too cheap to buy the little girls something, but let the older ones, give hand me down toys? And that's all the boys got one lego game thing each? But boy when it comes to Kate birthday it's and all out, expensive trip. She is something else. What happen to the big surprise she was mentioning? From her blog it sounds as if this is it for the tups birthday, no second, third party like past years. Cheapo Kate. Hope dad has something planned for the kids this weekend. I'm sure kate is looking forward to mothers day.
She told us she had to eat so much bacon that she never will eat bacon now.
My mom was Rh- and all of her 4 kids were
Rh+. This was back in the 1940's and 50's before they had the shot for it. She was darned lucky to have healthy babies, but she never, ever dwelled on it. In fact, when I asked her about childbirth pain, she told me "you forget about it after you see your child, and you never need to speak about it again."
Defining moment for me: Couch interviews got more and more repugnant to me. But I finally threw up my hands with the "Jon cooks Chinese" episode.
First the zoo comment...then she says "I was nauseous and unable to eat for 30 weeks" ?? If she was "unable" to eat, how did she manage to get in 4000 calories? God..everything she says is either embellished or lies
I don't mind the meager gifts though the hand me down re-gifting is a LITTLE much. Maybe get them a little something in addition to the hand me downs.
These kids need to learn to be happy with the simple things. A 10 dollar lego set, a hand me down here or there. This is the reality of their lives now. Mediocrity.
I never even had a clue I was born by c-section until I was maybe 15 my aunt was talking about hers and my mom was saying oh yeah I remember all that. I was like .... oh, I was? My mom's purpose in life was not to make me fall over with worship every single day at what she went through.
Oh by the way and at least she isn't trying to one-up Jon with some kind of extravagant gift times six. I really am surprised actually.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 46
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Right on.
I can't imagine my mother memorializing everything she went through to have me on each and every of my birthdays. To wit:
"I had 4 miscarriages! and ectopic pregnancy!!, jumped through dozens of hoops to adopt!! endured the death of the first adopted baby!!! All of this I went through to have you!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, happy birthday honey!!!!!!
ps... you owe me *big time*, now blow out your candles.
My mom was a rock, a real stoic broad who never complained and had some really tough breaks in life. I remember after her funeral mass, I thanked my cousin for tearfully getting through one of the gospel readings. I told her "that must have been really hard". You know what she said? "Well, you mom had a lot of hard".
I still cry when I think about that one.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 50
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Another similarity: My cousin spilled the beans about my mom's pregnancy issues and first boy. I talked about her rh factor-related miscarriages with my mom, but didn't find out about the baby boy until after she died.
She still kept all the paperwork related to the horrible situation and I think somehow she wanted me to know, but never wanted to burden me.
Damn, now I'm puddling up again.
Wonder how the 6 will like reading khates blog years from now and seeing themselves referred to as "the constant unrest that the developing ZOO inside me created"....guess she really did see them as a litter. Sad!
Dmasy said... 36
If Kate happened to be my sister, best friend or even my daughter -- I would be full to impatience with her pregnancy details. Enough!
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Next year, Kate will write about the bad case of hemorrhoids she had throughout her pregnancy with the 6...
Now, see kate could save face by making a statement, say: I appreciate, the fans who were to go, Blab blah about the economy, and I am sorry the trip did not take off, and perhaps we can do something to make up for trip canceled, or and I am gonna send , all that were to go, the gift I was going to give all of you. (that is paying to send them and the gift is free). I am truely sorry, was wanting to meet you blah, blah, blah! Would have been accepted, critized Yeah! It would have worked for me. But kate's silence, shows she is no sport, no honor, no class, no pride. And she is pissed.
Ha! The birth chronicals! They never normally come up in my house but I do have 2 funny stories. My 11-year old: I went into labor while shopping for Halloween Costumes. We made our purchase then went straight to hospital. He was born 40 minutes later. The kids enjoy that story. My youngest, age 9, was facing the wrong way (ceiling vs. floor) and as such took extra long to come out thus my hubs missed the superbowl! These stories are just cute, not intended to make a marter out of me as the mother.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 5
I have the email Kate sent to our mole so I'll do a post shortly.
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Love how you posted this immediately following your complaint about invasion of privacy. Why is it okay for you to make a public post containing private correspondence? I guess the rules change depending on whether or not you like the person...
Tucker's mom, you just contributed a wonderful tribute to your mom -- just in time for Mother's day.
Dmasy said... 63
Tucker's mom, you just contributed a wonderful tribute to your mom -- just in time for Mother's day.
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Thank you. I will think about her and miss her dearly on Sunday-- probably shed a tear or two, but hope to honor the wonderful mother I had for so many years.
Admin: I know what your saying, but what a let down from previous years. Kate did not say what she gave the little girls, only talked about what the twins, gave them and what the boys got. The whole birthday was a complete 360, from previous years. Small almost micro cake, a few gifts, and hand me down ones at that, no mention of kids party for weekend, nothing lavish, like past years. Kate's become a tigh-wad, with the kids.
Kate's posts are so full of contradictions. After writing a long detailed description of her sextuplet pregnancy suffering she writes:
"All the pain and discomfort long forgotten once we catch a glimpse of that face.. Well, 6 faces in my case!"
Kate will never forget her suffering, and she will be reminding anyone that will listen until she can no longer speak.
Check out the new post. It may surprise you. Though I will take bets right now that Kate will NEVER follow through with this empty promise. Not in a million years.
Hi Anonymous shit stirrer just checking to see if we're still on moderation (we're still and will be). Privacy for children vs privacy for a public figure is a completely different thing in my humble opinion.
Kate is a big girl. An adult. She has chosen to be a public figure, unlike her children. Check out the post, there is nothing particularly private or that Kate asked to be kept confidential in her e-mail. Especially when it pertains to a very PUBLIC cruise.
This email is not about Kate's panties or pinky toe, it's about a public cruise. It's FAIR GAME.
By the way? I have another e-mail from Kate dated 2007 or so I've chosen not to share. Too private. I do think about these things and make the best calls I can. Some are happy, some aren't. That's how it goes.
I guess the rules change depending on whether or not you like the person...
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The rules of privacy do change sometimes depending on:
-whether it's a child
-whether its' a child who has had the living crap exploited out of them, literally when it comes to Collin, and deserves the utmost privacy forever more after going through that
-whether it's a public figure
-whether the information pertains to a public event
Things like that. So yup you're right, the rules changed.
"All the pain and discomfort long forgotten once we catch a glimpse of that face.. Well, 6 faces in my case!"
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Then why is she still bringing it up eight years later? Kate, you're such a ditz!
Love how you posted this immediately following your complaint about invasion of privacy. Why is it okay for you to make a public post containing private correspondence? I guess the rules change depending on whether or not you like the person...
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I seriously doubt if she is going to post the names, addresses and phone numbers of anyone, or give them to anyone. Big difference. Very big difference.
Kate: Public figure
Cruise goers: Private figures.
Names, phone numbers and addresses of both Kate and cruise goers should be protected and none were disclosed here except Kate's email, btu that's public!
Kate made her e-mail public, so it's out there.
Pathetic attempt at shit stirring. Your friends have done much better.
Gosselin8ComeFirst said... 30
Let's face it, she is grown woman who has used her kids for years to keep herself relevant. Her show ended and it is time for her to stand on her own two feet, stop posting pictures of her kids and everything they said and did on any particular day and let them have their privacy back.
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She can't stop she's nothing without her kids. She knows it the whole world knows it.
admin said: Pathetic attempt at shit stirring. Your friends have done much better.
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lol! There are ones who have perfected the art, and then there are some who are novices. This one falls into the latter category! They either need to get a bigger pot, or a better spoon.
Flight of the Kiwi said...
My bad - apparently a sheeple made the she-ro tweet. Sigh, so hard to keep up sometimes :( Perhaps I should find the time to check-in more often...oh well. I just hate when She-Ra is disrespected ;)
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I think the sheeple was saying that because Khate is a woman (or a bitch at least haha) that she is a SHE-ro instead of a HEro. She-Ra does rock. I loved that awesome witch character with the eyeholes hat. If anyone gets the channel Qubo they show episodes after midnight. And for those who read Torey Hayden, check out her book "Beautiful Girl", she uses She-Ra to great success.
They will get a full refund for the cruise. Sounds like there was a requirement by the cruise line for a certain number of people in order to make the space available for the private events. Last year, I booked a particular cruise as it was to be the Jazz Party at Sea and have jazz performances, but not all the passengers on that cruise were going to be part of Jazz Party. I had to book through a particular travel agent associated with the group that was putting on the performances. The cost was higher than if one took the cruise without being able to go to the jazz events. They did not get the needed number to have the cruise line makes the performance venues available and Jazz Party was cancelled but the cruise itself was not cancelled. We were given the option of getting a full refund or still taking the cruise but at the regular price. We got the full refund for the cruise. I had booked air fare to Seattle separately and could not get a refund so I had to pay the penalty to change dates and we went to Seattle. Also, because the cruise still ran, the trip insurance would not cover the fees for the airfare changes as I did not the cancel for any reason policy. So these people will get a refund on the cost of the cruise but still may incur costs.
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