Listen to the full interview here. Kate dishes about the Chicago marathon and other upcoming running events, how eight kids are not allowed to each have their own schedule and have to stay shut away in their rooms in the morning with a video, how she's tapping out some books on her iPhone, and finally this guy .....
... her police escort to the station this morning! Currently on the Y102 roof with a sniper rifle.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1409 Newer› Newest»Ugh I just read that people thought this was part of the special effects in the movie so they were confused and didn't try to get away. This is so awful.
anger issues kate said... 200
As for kate Gosselin, compared to this: Kate your a big nothing, unimportant, insignificant, has been nobody. I would not be surprised if and when Kate says anything about this tragedy, that some how she makes it about herself. To me then Kate is an unfeeling low-life.
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I know how you feel, anger issues. If it makes you feel any better, Kate rarely, if ever, mentions current events. Never forget it's all about her, 24/7, 365. The rest of the world is just background noise she "blocks."
Prayers to all involved in this horrible tragedy.
The latest is 12 confirmed dead and at the most 50 injured, with some serious. So people, hug your kids, hubby, friends and pets. Cause this can happen anywhere.
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@Kateplusmy8 You're kids and I are going to get along great. When do I move in?
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Kate don't indulge the freaks on Twitter not ever one is good grown a brain why don't ya.
Can anybody give me a logical reason why there were infants at a midnight movie?
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As for kate Gosselin, compared to this: Kate your a big nothing, unimportant, insignificant, has been nobody. I would not be surprised if and when Kate says anything about this tragedy, that some how she makes it about herself. To me then Kate is an unfeeling low-life.
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I bet she will make it all about Kate in some way when her Twitter fans tell her about it.
I see infants at late showings a lot and no one really bats an eye. They sleep through it. I think a lot of parents go to a movie late enough that the child is asleep. It's not economical for people to throw down 24 bucks for two for a movie plus the cost of a babysitter. You either never go to the movies at all, or take your baby. I don't blame people.
I have an embarrassing, yet funny, story about allowing my seven year old godson and his 6 year old brother go into a public WC on their own. To make a long story short, I shouldn't have been worried about skeevy men. What I should have worried about was the lure of throwing wet paper and how well it can stick to a ceiling.
I just heard about the shooting, how very sad . My thoughts and prayers go out to all involved .
One of my children is going to see the that movie this weekend , I guess anything can happen anytime , anywhere.
No words!
My god bless and heal the victims in Aurora, Colorado.
I can never truly understand why people kill other's like this.
God bless the victims.
Unless you drug an infant there is no "guarantee" that it's going to sleep through a movie.
I would have never dreamed of chancing it and taking a baby to a movie. Babies sense things and know changes in their environment and definitely could be uncomfortable in a dark movie theater with extremely LOUD dialogue and music (which is the norm). I'd be surprised if the loud noises didn't wake up a sleeping baby.
If we wanted to see a movie and couldn't get/afford a sitter no movie.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 7
I see infants at late showings a lot and no one really bats an eye. They sleep through it. I think a lot of parents go to a movie late enough that the child is asleep. It's not economical for people to throw down 24 bucks for two for a movie plus the cost of a babysitter. You either never go to the movies at all, or take your baby. I don't blame people.
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A crowded, loud movie theater at midnight and babies sleep right through it all? I find that really hard to believe. If you can afford $24.00 for a movie, you should be able to afford another what, $20.00 for 3 hours for a sitter.
Kudos to our President and Mr Romey, for pulling their political ads, during this tragic time, even if it may be for a day. The President canceled his scheduled appearance, after he gave a speak about what happened etc.
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Same here. For the baby's sake, and out of respect for other patrons, who plunked down their hard-earned money for a ticket (and perhaps also paid a babysitter).
I wouldn't take a baby to a theatre simply because I wouldn't want to chance the noise level hurting his hearing. I don't have kids myself but I've noticed all the battery operated toys in our church's childcare are REALLY loud. No way would I want my baby subjected to that. I have always tried to keep the noises off and interact with them with people-generated noises instead. Like reading a book to a 2 yo last week, I made ALL the soud effects instead of having the computer chip do it. But maybe I'm a weirdo. I'm just afraid that we're raising a generation that will be prematurely deaf.
So horrible that a fun summer time event turned so tragic. Thoughts and prayers to all.
AussieGoldenLuv @ 15 - ITA. We're living in a very noisy world so much of the time. And then there's the other deafness, the one that comes when you're trying to talk to someone who hasn't heard a word you've said because they're too busy texting. Aaack!
If you can afford $24.00 for a movie, you should be able to afford another what, $20.00 for 3 hours for a sitter.
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Sitters charge $12 to $15 an hour now. I haven't seen a movie with my husband since 2008. We've been out maybe 5x together since our son was born, when we were able to get friends to watch him.
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$20 for 3 hours of a sitter? Maybe somewhere but not where I live! For me to hire a high school junior/senior babysitter these days it's about $10-15 an hour and that's IF I can find one. Maybe it's because I live in the Bay Area and it's not like a small town where people know each other and it's easier to network. I also don't think many teens want to babysit - they'd rather work at the mall or Starbucks with their friends - and honestly most parents it seems don't let their middle schoolers babysit for anyone but close family/friends. Most of my friends have kids my age, so that bit of networking isn't really available. And we attend a church that is 15 minutes from our house and has a large congregation, so again there's a lack of networking available.
Now, bear in mind, I am of the "leave your little ones at home" camp but I can also understand why some parents bring their infant. Sometimes it's the only way to see a show, especially if you're a young couple who can't afford a sitter and don't have family available or nearby.
This was a horrible tragedy and my prayers are with all of the victims and their families.
Why was a six year old there either? Sigh, once again America's lack of real fun laws hurt the innocent. I don't think Obama or Romney should pull ads for the day or so. It's tragedies like this that make the stance nominees take even more important.
Yikes, that should be GUN laws.
Kate has no friends, so she is too "friendly" with strangers on Twitter. I can't think of any celebrity who would count unknown tweeties as friends. If I were Jon, I would be concerned about her behavior and the fact that she attracts crazies.
And to those who live near Aurora, CO, I am very sadden by the shooting and condolences to the victims' families. I am glad the police caught the guy.
I don't get what the relevance is whether folks think little kids should be at movies that late. Shootings happen at all hours of the day. You could take them to a matinee and be shot there too.
Sitters haven't been 20 bucks for three hours (it's really more like 4 by the time you drive there) in years. When all is said and done you'd be lucky to spend only 70 bucks just for a few hours out. In any case that's not why the infant got shot. A baby could be killed by a babysitter too.
It has nothing to do with the shooting. It's just a question about the very questionable parenting and reason used. No 6 year old should be at that film, let alone the midnight showing! And because their parents are morons the child now has had to pay for it in ways no one could have imagined. Very apropos of a blog about a parent's mistakes hurting their innocent children.
Relevance? We have lots of off topic conversations here and lots of people enjoy them.
Tamara I know it's popular to blame American laws when these things happen but what about the recent Toronto shootings? Canada is supposed to have such great gun control but couldn't stop that. I subscribe to guns don't kill people, people kill people.
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I don't get what the relevance is whether folks think little kids should be at movies that late. Shootings happen at all hours of the day. You could take them to a matinee and be shot there too.
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That's what I said to DH this morning over breakfast. We were still blinking open our eyes trying to digest the awful news when he said "what's a 6 year old doing at a midnight movie?" and I thought, you know, what does it matter. Some parents will indulge little kids and let them stay up, dress up and "break the bedtime rules" by taking them for a treat. I can see little kids thinking that going to a premier, maybe all dressed up, is really cool and fun.
Infants are a sticky wicket however. If I did take an infant, I'd be taking my chances because one cry and I'm out. I wouldn't dream of disturbing others with the crying.
I do know many people think that infancy is the perfect time to take them to restaurants. If the kid naps during dinner time, then they can lull them to sleep in the car and eat in peace! After that period of time, who knows when they'll get back to a restaurant!
But Tamara the children weren't hurt because their parents took them to a movie. You can expect that if you do that a child will be tired or cranky or see a movie too adult for them but not that they get shot! One has nothing to do with the other. It's like if you let a child eat chocolate before dinner and try get horrible food poisoning and die. Sure they probably shouldn't have eaten chocolate but the punishment doesn't fit the crime nor was it expected.
OMG yes! I do the majority of my posting when I should be asleep- wow does it show... Thanks, that made me laugh..I'm just glad I don't slip up like that when I am dragging butt at work, LOL
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Butterly -- you're welcome! I hoped you wouldn't be insulted if I corrected you. I thought it was funny when I read it. We just came back from a trip to Jamestown, and one of the kids got sick, so we did have some "devastating" moments!
"Ugh I just read that people thought this was part of the special effects in the movie so they were confused and didn't try to get away. This is so awful."
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This is exactly my reaction to the 89 Earthquake while attention the World Series (between A's and Giants.) Three minutes before first pitch and the crowd went nuts, we thought it was a fitting prequel to the game. I was rushing to the beer lines before the game started.
Then I saw the Oakland Hills fires from above the lip of the Stadium...
My heart and prayers go out to all those affected by the the incident in Aurora, Colorado.
To clarify I certainly wouldn't choose to take an infant myself but to blame parents for what happened is absurd. They are victims.
I don't believe infants/toddlers should ever be brought to movie theaters. It is not natural for a baby to be held in Mom's arms in a dark theater with loud noises and often disturbing images. I don't blame the innocent baby for fussing. It's the parents' fault.
My family has been subjected, too many times, to crying little ones who should not be at the movies. Once, a couple brought a toddler to a rather violent, R-rated movie. The child whimpered and sometimes cried loudly throughout. The parents didn't want to miss the action, so they never took him out.
While I sympathize with young couples who want time out, they do not have the right to interrupt/disturb other people's right to enjoy a movie. Wait for it to come out on DVD. Trade babysitting with friends. There are options.
By the way, I feel the same way about weddings and fine dining restaurants. Second story: It was my MIL's 85th B-day, and we took her out to Fleming's Steakhouse. This place is not cheap, and my MIL was thrilled for her special dinner. There was a large party nearby, and a couple had a small baby. The baby was squalling, and the dad brought her away from their table and right next to ours as the baby continued crying! My son went over and told him to please remove the baby from our table area, which he did. However, if my son had not done this, the guy didn't seem to have a problem with us listening to the crying while his party ate in peace.
A little behind on posts, want to weigh in on breast feeding. In Washington state a law has been passed that makes breast feeding a protected class in terms of discrimination. That means that anyone who comments, or requests that she move to a more private place or cover-up, or verbally criticizes or objects can be charged with harassment/discrimination--same as if a minority was told to leave based on race.
I used to breast feed in public places, discreetly, and people would sometimes stare or comment. While this law may seem extreme, it takes the normal act of nourishing a child out of the realm of debate and establishes it as an acceptable and normal behavior. In other words, if someone has a problem with it, it is now not a problem for the nursing mother. In this day and age, I can't believe that nursing in public is being compared to a public sexual act.
Well whatever the cost of a babysitter, it sure would have been cheaper than the hospital bill now.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 26
Relevance? We have lots of off topic conversations here and lots of people enjoy them.
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Agree. I like that the topics posted here are varied, and that the expressed ideas lead us to tangentially related issues.
The fact that we're individuals, not group thinkers, is what makes this blog special. It allows each of us to examine our own situations (and belief systems) from a 360-degree perspective.
I thought some here might be interested in a news story about Rachel Beckwith. I believe it was PJ's momma who originally told us about her a year ago. Remember, she was the girl who wanted to raise funds for a clean water project in Africa, and was tragically killed in a car accident. This is an update on her story.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12835490-rachels-legacy-year-after-girls-death-mom-goes-to-africa-to-honor-her-clean-water-wish
I read that children wearing head phones at an early age can cause them to have severe hearing problems by adulthood. It seems everyone wears them at the gym, including me!
Look, everyone loses some hearing as they get older but maybe we can do some things to slow down the process!
As far as this mornings shooting it is sad and scarey! There are so many issues, such as gun control , mental illness, young children /babies at movies and safety at everyday events throughout our great country!
Personally I'm not touching any of those topics, I got pounced yesterday for bringing up women exposing their bodies in public, and some comments were not nice!
Well I'm taking the weekend off I hope everyone has a nice and safe weekend!!
Such tragic news this morning. Our prayers go out to all of the victims and their families today. A very sad day for Colorado and our country.
Just as someone predicted ... Kate is tweeting this morning but has mentioned NOTHING about the tragegy in Colorado last night.
She even has the nerve to RETWEET a fans tweet about an episode.
Kate is nothing but a selfish narcissistic person who can not even for one morning take a moment to think about anyone but herself.
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To clarify I certainly wouldn't choose to take an infant myself but to blame parents for what happened is absurd. They are victims.
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I must have missed the comment where someone blamed parents of babies for what happened.
When asked why he thought we got only a few eggs 2day,Collin said 'there were 2 hens laying & I didn't want to disturve them' (yes,w/ a 'v')
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This is not cute, it's continuing to infantalize.
Kate, take your child(ren) to a Speech Therapist. He should be evaluated asap so he can work on proper speaking skills. He may have multiple systems involved.
This is way not normal for an 8 year old. This stuff should have been picked up by now.
XXXXX @Kateplusmy8 U see that awful news this mornin Kate? One 6yr old was killed. A 3mo. old baby injured! Imagine pain 4parents!! :(
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True to form, FiredUp is trying to steer Kate in the right direction.
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Just as someone predicted ... Kate is tweeting this morning but has mentioned NOTHING about the tragegy in Colorado last night.
She even has the nerve to RETWEET a fans tweet about an episode.
Kate is nothing but a selfish narcissistic person who can not even for one morning take a moment to think about anyone but herself.
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And who should give Kate the opportunity to comment on the tragedy which she failed to mention?
Fired Up 4 Kate @MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 U see that awful news this mornin Kate? One 6yr old was killed. A 3mo. old baby injured! Imagine pain 4parents!! :(
Good old Milo trying to cover Kate's ass once again.
That means that anyone who comments, or requests that she move to a more private place or cover-up, or verbally criticizes or objects can be charged with harassment/discrimination--same as if a minority was told to leave based on race.
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So if a woman sits in a restaurant at the table next to you, both breasts fully exposed, and someone expresses concern about it, this person can be charged with harassment?
Kate seems to have so many freaking eggs and won't eat the yolks and doesn't know what to do with them and kids have said they're sick of eggs. So why doesn't she just sell them? She'd make more money doing that than coercing her gullible fans to buy Bella Bars. LOL
There were some earlier tweets from some of her fans (including the one lady she met this Spring) mentioning the tragedy in Colorado so Kate had to have seen the tweets and what happended last night.
But she choose to ignore what everyone else in the country (including the President and his family) are reflecting and praying about today.
Kate is too concerned about HER life, exploiting and embarrassing her kids on twitter, and talking about HERSELF.
Sadly, I am also praying for the Gkids in my novenas today.
so sad in Colorado, I read this: The movies is where we go to escape the horrors of reality, not experience them.
I pray for the victims and their families
Kate: Colorado? Is that the island near Australia? It's my dream to visit. My kids deserbe it. (Yes, with a b)
Tighter control over firearms reduces the number of people killed by a firearm. It doesn't stop it from happening. Who knows when someone is going to snap and go on a killing spree with a gun?
Just for reference, in Canada 32% of all homicides are caused by firearms. In the U.S. 67.5% of all homocides are caused by firearms.
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When asked why he thought we got only a few eggs 2day,Collin said 'there were 2 hens laying & I didn't want to disturve them' (yes,w/ a 'v')
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This is not cute, it's continuing to infantalize.
Kate, take your child(ren) to a Speech Therapist. He should be evaluated asap so he can work on proper speaking skills. He may have multiple systems involved.
This is way not normal for an 8 year old. This stuff should have been picked up by now.
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Agreed Agreed Agreed. And if Kate would allow support and education from more experienced moms in her life, she would know this.
This is 3 year old speech. How has this fancy school not addressed this? In our measly mediocre public schools, all children are screened at Kindergarten and again at 2nd grade buy a Masters level Speech and Language Pathologist. Actually it might be State of Ohio Law, because my son went to Lutheran elementary school (my older children did not, couldnt afford it then) and HE was screened also, just like the public school kids.
Perhaps Kate would not give permission for the speech therapy?
Giving birth twice does not make for a knowledgable and experienced mom. Too bad she wont permit anyone in her life who could support her. This is a simple parenting matter, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH H.O.M., KATE!!!!!
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@Kateplusmy8 U see that awful news this mornin Kate? One 6yr old was killed. A 3mo. old baby injured! Imagine pain 4parents!! :(
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So Kate is aware of this horrible tragedy and....crickets about it? Is she formulating a deep, personal tweet of condolence or is she just happy she's got a swimming pool to lay by where bad things can't ever happen?
So Kate is aware of this horrible tragedy and....crickets about it? Is she formulating a deep, personal tweet of condolence or is she just happy she's got a swimming pool to lay by where bad things can't ever happen?
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She's being criticized for not responding and Milo is TRYING to get her to say something! Good old Milo, she always has Kate's back, making an attempt to do some damage control so Kate doesn't look too out of touch with what's going on in our country.
Kate's going to Chicago for her marathon on Sunday. She couldn't give a rat's a** about some shooting in some other state or country or planet, whereEVA!
It is nearly 2:00 in the afternoon, here and in Kate's area of Pa. I cannot believe she dribbles her rainbow farts and her typical cottoncandy brain matter on her twitter. No mention of the Colorado horror means she hasnt given it a single thought (since if it crosses her brain OOH LOOK SHINY THING!, it falls into her twitter).
I guess if it doesnt impact her hair or her nails or her checkbook, it doesnt matter to her at all. And if she cant find a way to use it for her exhaustedishness, then it is of no use to her. Cant use for her benefit, then POOF out of her brain it goes.
Mental illness undeniably front and center today. No denying it now.
Even with Milo tweeting Kate about the horrific tragedy in CO, I doubt it even registers with idiot Kate. Remember, she doesn't read the newspaper and I doubt she looks at any internet news sites. If she IS aware of what happened, gosh, it didn't happen to her so she doesn't care, doesn't empathize, nothing. She is a cold hearted bitch.
She's being criticized for not responding and Milo is TRYING to get her to say something! Good old Milo, she always has Kate's back, making an attempt to do some damage control so Kate doesn't look too out of touch with what's going on in our country.
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Someone should tell Milo it's too late. Kate lost touch with the real world years ago.
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That means that anyone who comments, or requests that she move to a more private place or cover-up, or verbally criticizes or objects can be charged with harassment/discrimination--same as if a minority was told to leave based on race.
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So if a woman sits in a restaurant at the table next to you, both breasts fully exposed, and someone expresses concern about it, this person can be charged with harassment?
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I guess if there is no nursing going on, then the laws around public nudity would apply. I have never personally seen anyone publicly expose both breasts in the process of nursing--I can't imagine that it is a huge problem! There may be short moments when the nipple may be exposed, but even then there is usually clothing draped over. I didn't follow why this particular legislation was passed, but, will probably do later today,
People have all sorts of opinions about what people should and shouldn't do in their personal lives and in public. There have been many opinions expressed about what age children should be weaned.
Someone may be offended by interracial couples. That isn't the couples problem--it's the problem of the person who is offended. I think that is what this law accomplished--established boundaries for what is acceptable. Otherwise, if there is q complaint, it imposes a dilemma on the restaurant staff and requires them to decide what is appropriate. So, the law protects the public or private business as well as the rights of a woman to feed their child without harassment. If it somehow protects a nursing woman who nurses solely to publicly display her breasts to satisfy her exhibitionistic tendencies--well, so be it.
No mention of the Colorado horror means she hasnt given it a single thought (since if it crosses her brain OOH LOOK SHINY THING!, it falls into her twitter).
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This is 3 year old speech. How has this fancy school not addressed this? In our measly mediocre public schools, all children are screened at Kindergarten and again at 2nd grade buy a Masters level Speech and Language Pathologist.
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The school does have a speech pathologist from IU 13. Screenings are done, and recommendations come from the teachers. The speech sessions take place on a weekly basis, sometimes more often for as long as the student needs it, even if it means every year. Parents must consent for the child to be enrolled in these sessions. This is done free of charge with no cost to the parents. Perhaps one or more of the kids is going through speech therapy.
Kate has always, sorry ohways, mispronounced her words, so her child doing the same is flattering to her.
Just to clarify - Certified language pathologists from IU come to the school for the speech sessions and even if the child is enrolled in these sessions on a weekly basis, bi-weekly basis, and needs speech therapy for several years, all of the therapy is free of charge. Expense, therefore, wouldn't be Kate's objection to having the kids enrolled in therapy sessions.
I dont believe in taking babies (or toddlers) to movies either. When my daughter was infant, we just didn't go except for a rare 1 or 2 occasions when the grandparents babysat. I also knew my daughter would cry at the loud noise. When you have a baby, expect to lose some freedoms. They only stay infants a short while. You'll survive and will never have missed those outings to see a movie (which will be on DVD sooner or later) or dining out. It's a small sacrifice. I count as part of my time served. I joke with my friends who have kids and can't do many things because of no sitter- sucks to be you, I say, and then of course a just kidding, really it's great to be me because I am past all that now and once again have freedom to go where I want when I want. I didn't miss out on anything by not being to do that stuff when my daughter was little, I was too busy being a mommy. It's temporary. So if anyone here ever feels like they are drowning in their kids (I love that term) just look to those of us who have survived, and remember, you, too, will see your way through :) Of course parents do need some time, I understand, so just save your money and hire a sitter, or a family member. Parenthood is a wonderful time, and kids grow up fast.
Sherry Baby,
No I don't mind being corrected- I prefer that to looking foolish, or downright stupid. I use to live near Jamestown when I was stationed at Norfolk, lived in the Hampton Roads area. I fell in love with Williamsburg, especially in the fall- coming from LA we don't fall like that. I must have taken over 100 pics of the trees with their fall leaves. So beautiful! And a Prime Outlet to boot- :D
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Kudos to our President and Mr Romey, for pulling their political ads, during this tragic time, even if it may be for a day. The President canceled his scheduled appearance, after he gave a speak about what happened etc.
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I am glad this has happened in some areas, but in Northeast Ohio, it is still 4 political commericials on every single TV break. 2 Romney and 2 Obama every single break. I shut off broadcast TV and went to internet streaming TV, coz I couldnt take the ads today.
It's not so much the time of day the movie was shown (it is summer, after all), it's that the particular film we're talking about is really not appropriate for toddlers, preschoolers, or even young school age children.
The last film in this series was very dark and disturbing and this one is supposedly even more so.
I've seen people bring 4 year olds to torture films. It's just wrong. Fortunately, I've also seen other patrons complain to management and the parent and child were told to leave. Some adults couldn't handle the level of violence, why would you ever think it's ok for a small child?????
This is all said totally apart from the tragic event, which I don't even have words for. No one expects to be gunned down anywhere, much less a movie theater.
But small children should not be taken to movies that most everyone agrees is not appropriate for anyone under 12 or 13.
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Kate: Colorado? Is that the island near Australia? It's my dream to visit. My kids deserbe it. (Yes, with a b)
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I shouldn't be laughing at this, because it's sad that Kate thinks it's cute and broadcasts this embarrassment to Colin (isn't he the one who had the poop yanked out of his butt? Poor kid), but yes indeed, there was a bit of cole slaw that almost came out my nostrils.
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When asked why he thought we got only a few eggs 2day,Collin said 'there were 2 hens laying & I didn't want to disturve them' (yes,w/ a 'v')
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This is not cute, it's continuing to infantalize.
Kate, take your child(ren) to a Speech Therapist. He should be evaluated asap so he can work on proper speaking skills. He may have multiple systems involved.
This is way not normal for an 8 year old. This stuff should have been picked up by now.
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I believe I read awhile ago that LCCDS does have a Speech/Language Pathologist on staff who can evaluate and provide therapy for students who are referred by teachers at the school. If there is no SLP there, any child in a private school can be referred and evaluated by the local public school's SLP and receive therapy through that school. I do not think it's in any child's best interest to post opinions about this topic. All information about a child's academic, social, and/or IEP records is confidential and there are strict federal laws that protect students' privacy in all these mentioned areas.
I don't mean to offend anyone, but there is a line that really should not be crossed here or on any public forum.
The police chief in Aurora just announced that 71 people were shot. What do we do to protect our children? The shooter was working on his doctorate in neuroscience at the university and presented his paper on "Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders." How ironic, and how tragic.
I'll probably never sit through another movie without thinking about this. God be with these families.
Why are these crazies so often so incredibly educated and intelligent??
Just to clarify, Kart's Chicago race is a 5k (3.1 miles). It is not a marathon. (26 miles, I think?).
The G kids immature speech has been addressed many times and it's fair game when Kate announces it on Twitter. No one has offered a diagnosis or treatment plan. No one want to know if the child is receiving ST. We just want Kate to STFU about her kids when it comes to their personal, private things.
Kate still thinks "Hannah's unnawears" is still sooooooo funny! And she keeps putting her daughter's feces-smeared body scene out there. How embarassing.
This is no different.
It's sick.
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I don't mean to offend anyone, but there is a line that really should not be crossed here or on any public forum.
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You're right, but no one is saying that any of the children are involved in speech therapy, since this is a privacy issue, and if anyone is attending these sessions, none of the children has been identified as being enrolled in this program, which is how it should be.
Why would anyone expect Kate to tweet about this tragedy? Do you think she even knows about it? I can't imagine she checks the news first thing in the a.m.
The tragedy in her life is the cancellation of her reality TV show plus Jon cancelling his participation in the show.
Whoever told Kate Gosselin to start a Tweeter acct is someone who needs to get their head examined. The exposure of her children to strangers never ends. She has been very lucky.
Just saw the news: 13 confirmed dead, 59 seriously injured, but the police cheif said a total of 71 got shot? That does not make sense, unless he ment injurys & shots(like bullit grazed). They also evacuated the shooters neigborhood, cause he rigged his apartment with explosives, to go off if you openned the door or window. They arrested him in his car in the theater parking lot. He was waiting for them. Un-real.
Kate hasn't said anything cause she is too busy getting packed for her trip. And if it does not concern her she caresless. And she wants to be a talk show host or co-host? That is almost laughable. Joke of the century.
I just realized that my son and his girlfriend are running in the same race in Chicago as Kate. I don't think he knows who she is though.
admin said...
Why are these crazies so often so incredibly educated and intelligent??
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I know, admin, this was my first thought. Before the identity of the gunman was disclosed, I immediately thought it was some low-life crazy from who-knows-where. This guy was in med school, said to be a nice, quiet fellow who never caused any trouble.
I remember a movie on Charles Witman, who did the shooting at the University of Texas and it was later discovered that he had a brain tumor. There was speculation that this caused his bizarre behavior and aggression.
Reports right now are that there are still 10 bodies inside the theater. They interviewed the father of the child who was killed. The media in these cases is so annoying. The woman reporter asked this father how he feels and if he is frustrated. I'd throw the question right back at her and ask her how SHE would feel.
Reports now are that he had his hair painted red, like the joker in the movie, and he said that this was no joke. Harvey Levin (TMZ) says that Warner Brothers is on "lock down," not saying anything about it and they are trying to decide whether to delay the release of the movie. The premiere of the movie in Paris has been cancelled. The question now is whether this crisis is going to frighten people away from the movie, or draw more people to it out of curiosity.
The flag at the White House has been lowered.
Anger - 71 people were shot; 12 killed, and 59 injured, which adds up.
If anyone here listens to Hayhouse radio, there was a great show yesterday that is now posted in the archive -- it's free to listen -- with Michael Neill (LOVE him, practical, smart, kind).
The show is titled "How to Love Even When You Want to Kill." he talks with Bill Cumming, whose daughter was raped 30 years ago and how he dealt with it, about choosing kindness in the face of a violent society. Cumming has been a speaker/author etc. ever since. He talks about how to break the cycle of violence.
www.hayhouseradio.com
heather
"No one has offered a diagnosis or treatment plan. No one want to know if the child is receiving ST. We just want Kate to STFU about her kids when it comes to their personal, private things."
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Didn't she also put pictures out there of cards they made, showing backward letters, or misspellings? Apparently she thinks it's cute, even if it embarrasses the kids.
They say there is a fine line between genius and insanity. Sometimes very intelligent people are bullied, misunderstood, considered nerds, whatever, and have suffered in their own way to a breaking point. In no way does this justify the tragedy; maybe merely explains the character of the gunman in this and other cases, idk...
AuntieAnn: That also irks me too about Kate and her thinking of herself as articulate in the gift'o'gab area. Her ohways, awn (on), owed (old), r (our), general word choice, ums, pet words ( honestly, require) really do my head in!
They interviewed the father of the child who was killed. The media in these cases is so annoying. The woman reporter asked this father how he feels and if he is frustrated. I'd throw the question right back at her and ask her how SHE would feel.
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I saw that interview and have a feeling that the woman who interviewed him will be filled with self-loathing for asking questions of this man when he was a near zombie from shock and grief. It made me cringe.
Kate could care less about the poor victims in Col I just heard about it 30 minutes ago and I'm shocked and sad.
But this is want Kate cares about.
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Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Yikes! I almost had a panic attack...Thought I was out of my favorite Bella Bar... Then I found one! Whew! It's my afternoon snack w coffee!
I bet yo all by the end of the day we'll see some half-assed tweet from Kate.
On how said she feels for the families and the victims then about herself.
admin,
The only run in with the law that this guy had was a single speeding ticket.
Isn't the joker's hair green?
The shooter graduated from the University of California (Riverside) "at the top of the top academically" with high honors.
Boy, you just never know, do you?
I'm so sad for the victims, and their families.
What the hell could have caused that young man to snap like he did? He was the "top of the top", that graduated with honors in Neuroscience.
Horrible, all the way around.
Wow. You do just never know. Which proves our point why Kate needs to be far more cautious about interactions with her fans. For starters not allowing the children to sit in their laps.
This tragedy has me sick, literally. My daughter works at a movie theater and she worked last night for the Batman movie. She talked all week about how crowded it was going to be, and this is her first overnight shift (yes, for a stinking movie) and how 'super-fans' come dressed in costume and it is so much 'fun'. I was at work and saw the news, as it was occurring. My stomach hurt so badly- I was desperate to get a hold of my daughter. What if this isn't the only incident and there are copy cats? What if she heard the news and was upset or freaked out? For hours I didn't know how she was doing, and the news coverage continued. I felt so sad for those families. Words cannot adequately express...anything...in a situation like this. Finally morning came and I arrived home to find my kid asleep in bed, worn out from her first overnight shift. She's back at work now. I guess our theater didn't pull the movie. I wish it had. I hope it has. I hope her day is long and boring. There was a poster on here who said to hug your loved ones a little tighter, cuz you never know. I don't ever want another night like last night, but at least my kid is safe. I will hug her tightly before I leave for work tonight- and maybe make her quit her job, LOL!!
I missed hearing any news this am, heard about shooting when I got to work. Sad.
Something positive: I listen to Matt Paxton podcast www.5decisionsaway.com and most recent one from 7/19/12 its really good. About minute 50 Matt talks about the Make A Wish foundation and his upcoming fundraising event for them. Matt has been a volunteer for make a wish and comfort zone camps for bereaved children for years. I like listening to his podcasts, and he does what he does because he likes helping people.
Ms Kreider is still boring
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That truly hits home. I'm so glad your daughter is ok, and I'm sure she'll be ok through the Batman showings. It makes everyone appreciate our loved ones, doesn't it?
Squeezes to all here.
I hope no theater shuts down showings of it. I feel like we do that we've given in to those who want to terrorize people. I think it empowers them.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 92
I hope no theater shuts down showings of it. I feel like we do that we've given in to those who want to terrorize people. I think it empowers them.
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Tough call. If the movie continues showing and there's a copycat and people get killed what have we proven?
This is exactly why I don't go to movie theaters anymore. Not since 9/11. I avoid crowds as much as I can.
I've always thought since then that a dark theater was a target-rich environment with people who could not escape or protect themselves.
I'm only surprised because it hasn't happened before this, and that it was a shooter too stupid to avoid getting caught, instead of a remote triggered bomb.
Yes, this is very sad commentary on life as we know it now. I have no problem avoiding crowds and theaters. I see it as keeping myself safe instead of an interruption of my freedoms.
For those of us in our sixties, life is different now from when we were growing up. Fact. Nothing to do about it except deal with it.
And for those impacted directly, those wounded and families of dead victims, my heart goes out to them. Such wanton and indescriminate loss of life. It almost is beyond comprehension.
I try to see myself on a different path through life now, instead of bemoaning the fact that one road has closed, I try to see the possibilites in the roads still open to me.
For example, I don't go to movie theaters, but I see whatever movies I want in the comfort of my home with healthy snacks that don't cost an arm and a leg as the theater popcorn/candy does.
I still get to do what I want, just within a different format.
As the world is changing, we must change and adapt. So it is, so will it always be.
Prayers for the families in Colorado.
Tweet good point what's next movie theater security checks?
Admin,
I think it shows an amount of respect and sympathy to delay the showings. One day, to let the situation settle, won't hurt Warner Brothers (or who ever is making the movie). People don't need to see the movie today, a national tragedy just happened. Just one day. I understand what you're saying, we deal this in my line of work often, and it makes sense, but to carry on as if everything is A-ok, perfectly normal, is just a tad tasteless. My opinion of course. I am sure this will be a hot topic in class, our assignment this week was providing security for a major event (but much larger than a movie- think Republican National Convention). I hope the remainder of the shooting victims all are released from the hospital today, and get to rejoin their families.
Butterfly,
I was keeping in my heart all the victims and their families.... your post made me realize there are more folks to pray for - The theater staff and their families too.
Thank you for opening my eyes a little wider.
I will pray for peace for you, your daughter and all others involved, either directly or tangentially.
Heck if I know, Admin. Maybe one day we'll all be living under extreme security checks wherever we go. It's a much more violent world than it once was. Sadly we can't close Pandora's box.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Someone who's in the 5K..please put a sign on ur back sayin "Runnin w/Milo & Jack on my back"! LOL Want 2b there somehow! :)
She's (or he or it) is nuts. No question about it.
Butterfly,
What classes are you taking? It sounds like an interesting assignment, security for RNC....
Permanent Name said... 94
This is exactly why I don't go to movie theaters anymore. Not since 9/11. I avoid crowds as much as I can.
I've always thought since then that a dark theater was a target-rich environment with people who could not escape or protect themselves.
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I rarely see movies in theaters anymore, unless it's a blockbuster. DH and I were in fact just in a theater last weekend, seeing Spiderman. We recalled the last movie we saw in a theater was Harry Potter (the final one). It's been a while. But, I thought Spiderman and Batman would be theater-worthy, especially in light of the extreme heat, it's a great place to cool off.
But now, I don't know. I just don't know.
It is a different world but as far as mass shootings they sadly have been happening for decades. The Texas a&m shooting massacre was in the 60s. You can protect yourself but for me that doesn't go so far as I won't walk a college campus or go to a movie tonight. I'm willing to risk it. Chances are greater ill die in a car accident there.
Twittering And Twattering said... 99
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Someone who's in the 5K..please put a sign on ur back sayin "Runnin w/Milo & Jack on my back"! LOL Want 2b there somehow! :)
She's (or he or it) is nuts. No question about it.
------So true. S/he has very real and obvious psych issues. And the sheeple, along with Kate, continue to feed her neediness.
I'm always surprised at the train of thought that people who go to college "don't DO those sort of things. "Well, why not? Every crime in this country in not committed by some poor, "undereducated" homeless guy under a bridge.
Getting a PhD does not make you smart, it means you got into a program. Some of the smartest people I have known didn't have degrees, and some of the dumbest had PhDs/MDs.
Nor does being intelligent mean you don't do horrific things. All types of people do all kinds of shitty things. It's a shame that there is this perception that people with alphabet soup after their names are "better than everyone else." They aren't. They are just as flawed and wonderful and kind and mean as everyone else. (and as a disclaimer this is not sour grapes, I have a BA, an MA plus a master's level certificate I earned doing an extra year of coursework. I was also accepted into an additional MA program that I decided not to do).
I'm putting it out there now: I bet we will find out he was taking some type of psychiatric medication.
heather
Tweet good point what's next movie theater security checks?
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Probably.
"Movie theater group reviewing security procedures"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-shooting-theaterownersbre86j162-20120720,0,2368392.story
Heather:
what did you mean about the psych meds? That they weren't working or that he has a Dx? Just wondering.
A lot of good points on this horrific issue today.
I feel very very sad for all of us, and of course especially for those directly or indirectly affected.
License to parent said...
Can anybody give me a logical reason why there were infants at a midnight movie?
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I am assuming that some young parents take their infants to the movies because they don't have or can't afford a babysitter. But I think it's a bad idea because the sound system in most theaters is quite loud. My son avoided going to the movies for years because the sound was always too loud for him - and I'm talking a 10-year old boy, not an infant. I would not personally expose my infant or toddler to the noise of a movie theater, and I also would not expose the other movie goers to the noise of my child crying. I am equally disappointed when I see parents bringing their babies or little ones still in strollers to places like Scandia (a mini golf course, but they have a video arcade that is loud and definitely not suitable for babies or toddlers).
I think it shows an amount of respect and sympathy to delay the showings. One day, to let the situation settle, won't hurt Warner Brothers (or who ever is making the movie). People don't need to see the movie today, a national tragedy just happened.
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I totally agree with this. A delay in the showing should take place out of respect to the victims. Personally, I don't see how anyone could enjoy that movie today, knowing what happened last night.
My sympathies to the victims and families of this mornings shooting rampage. Extremely tragic.
I would never bring an infant or a child to a movie just because I wanted to see it. If I couldn't find a sitter, I wouldn't go. I do agree with administrator that a shooting can happen at a theater or anywhere for that matter, at any time of the day. My question though is what the hell is a six year old doing at THIS movie? An infant is not going to be watching the movie, but this is not a movie that is appropriate for a six year old to be watching. What is the rating for this movie? From the ads on TV there seems to be quite a bit of violence in it. Why would you allow your child to see that?
Heather said...Getting a PhD does not make you smart, it means you got into a program.
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Heather, if you graduated at the top of the top academically with high honors, chances are you are not intellectually-challenged.
No, you just don't know what a killer looks like. Up here in Canada in 2010 the wing commander of Canada's biggest air base was overseeing the base during the day and stalking and killing women by night. Seriously stalking them. He was breaking into their homes, raping them, stealing their underwear, wearing their underwear, taking pictures. He broke into a total of 82 homes that they know of and killed two women. It was horrible. This monster even flew the Queen of England around.
BTW, babies do cry in movies. I've been at more than one movie only to hear a little baby start crying a few rows behind me. If the movie goers are lucky, the parent takes the child to the lobby. It seems there is about a 50/50 chance that the parent doesn't want to miss any of the movie, so they try to quiet the child, sometimes with little success. Anyway - I am not in favor of bringing little ones to a movie. Rent a Netflix at home instead.
I am in no way blaming the parents of any children who died in this tragedy for their deaths. The person responsible is the shooter and no one else. I am merely offering my own opinion as to the appropriateness of exposing babies to the extremely loud noise of a movie theater, and often resulting lack of consideration for the rest of us who paid good money to watch a movie, not hear a baby cry.
There is a local theater in my area that actually has a "baby room" where parents and their young ones can sit and watch the movie. I think that's a great idea.
Admin,
I think we are all fortunate to be able to make our own decisions regarding personal safety.
What I fear is down the road some government agency will remove that freedom and we'll all be like sheep, towing the company (government) line...
We were just in the Pacific Northwest for a vacation recently and because it was someplace I'd never been before I was looking around alot and noticed that every street corner has 4 cameras.
Interesting thing to ponder, isn't it?
I do think the surprise comes because it usually takes a lot of stability and clear thinking to climb the academia ladder. Unstable people are not seen much in that realm though I know they exist. You have to perform constantly on tests, in class, defending a thesis. It's hard to succeed at that if you are coming across as someone who can shoot a place up. I also have to say that especially in law school everyone seemed incredibly bright to me, I often felt like the dumbest person in the room.
Heather:
what did you mean about the psych meds? That they weren't working or that he has a Dx? Just wondering.
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Psych meds cause as many, if not more, symptoms that we normally associated with "pyschotic" people, including hallucinations, homicidal and suicidal ideation and behavior.
Andrea Yates was a perfect example. She was talking 5 or 6 meds when she killed her children (aside from the her mental condition and the drugs individually, now there are multiple drugs fighting for multiple pathways in her brain). One can argue that she was severely disturbed and that's why she killed her kids, or one can argue that the medications screwed with her brain so much that she felt compelled to kill her kids.
I've noticed a pattern in these types of crimes, that the killer is usually taking some type of psychotropic drug.
You couldn't pay me a million dollars to take those drugs. They do serious and severe damage to the brain, and in some studies, the HEALTHY, NORMAL participants were the ones that committed suicide. Some of the drugs have only been through 4 weeks of phase III clinical trials before they are mass marketed to the public.
And Andrea Yates ended up in a mental institution, not jail. She was a sick individual, and the doctors failed her all the way around. It cost her children their lives.
heather
"I'm putting it out there now: I bet we will find out he was taking some type of psychiatric medication."
Heather, I've been wondering if he may be schizophrenic. It's an illness that often hits young people between 18 and 22 just out of the blue, kids who have appeared normal up until then.
I'm not using this as an excuse or defense. Just speculating.
Permanent Name,
the class is simply titled (LOL- in contrast to others I've had) Public Policy in Crim Justice- 560. Simple name but difficult class- sigh.
Even though acts of violence may be more common, I think sometimes 1 event just stands out and strikes a chord with people. For me, it's when children are involved. For example, yes 9/11 was shocking but I was far more disturbed by Oklahoma City Federal Bldg bombing- all those children hurt and killed. Why would someone hurt KIDS? BABIES? Maybe this event strikes a chord because of the level of unexpectedness, and the nature of the victims- children and families. WHy would anyone choose this target? Families and people just out for a nice evening.
My heart and prayers go out to all the families. How utterly horrifying, tragic and senseless.
Heather:
Thanks for your explanation. That's a conundrum, isn't it? People need those meds, yet yes, they do cause many bad side effects. If they are prescribed for depression or suicidal thoughts or some other illness that causes the patient self-harm etc, what's a person to do?
I was going to take my little nephews to see the Dark night raises.
Since they love batman so much now I going to wait I just feel like I should in my gut.
Thought and prayers to all those affected in CO.
Kate's priorities:
Parentify the twins
Infantalize the sextuplets
Wash HER suv in the rain.
Well alrighty then. Worse than useless.
Heather on psych meds
I can say I've seen first hand (my dh) have psychotic episodes due to medications to control his PD. He is no longer on the medication that was the worst of the cocktail. It changed a lot about his personality when on it. It made gamble compulsively, really messed with his brain' executive functions and eventually caused florid hallucinations. When they took him of the medication - it all went away. This is sort of a tangent to your comment. My heart just goes out to everyone suffering this tragedy.
While I am not in favor of taking babies to the movies, and I totally agree that this particular movie is way inappropriate for children (and ME!), and I think it was too late to be out anyway...
Infants are used to loud noises. The womb is very very loud, the sound of mama's heart beating, blood and fluid moving through the body for an infant is very loud. Most baby books recommend things like soothing your baby to sleep with a vacuum cleaner or a hair dryer (pointed away from baby!) because they are so used to the loud noise that when they come into the world it's too quiet for them. (we had this great stove fan that made a racket and would put my babies right to sleep!) And, I have read books on infants that say that movie theaters can be soothing to babies because of the noise and the dark.
Of course, this depends on the baby! My friend's baby loved going to the movies. Snug in a wrap, he would sleep right through the whole thing. We tried it with our first born and oy! He screamed the second the movie started. A huge waste of $30.
However, movies these days do seem to be much much louder than they were before and they are usually too loud for me even.
Such a sad and scary day. My heart goes out to all affected by this.
Parent in landcaster: thanks, he said it said so quickly, was not sure which he ment.
Julianna: Sorry have to disagree with you , a lot of people with degrees are intellectually challenged. I know a lot of people with various college degrees, and though they maybe wonderful in what subject they took, other things they are intellectually stupid. Some can't cook, garden, clean house, drive a car, figure out a map, paint, budget, etc. Just cause you have a degree does not make you smart. Most are only smart in that field, when it comes to other things, they could not fight their way out of a bag. That's why opposites attract. Unless you get the lucky gene and you are like a jack of all trades or near enough. As they refer to as a well rounded person. Who can do a little of everything. There are people who can focus only on one thing. Geez, I can't spell today.
Kate is taking cement dust off car. Now what did Kate have installed at her house? Remember back a couple of weeks, the pics of kate wearing the short strapless dress, and all the media said Kate was gardening, if you look at the pics closely, Kate had a tape measure, and was measuring for something, not gardening. Spending the kids money again. Yeah, she is struggling!
Of course the most important topic is the tragic shooting in Colorado. No words can express the shock and pain one person caused today.
However, back to the speech patterns of young children, is it possible that Kate brought this to Twitter's attention because she's trying to prove that there are still cute, funny, amazing things her children do that would make a great TV show? The more adorable the child the more marketable the child is in reality TV. If she was not trying to make her own child sound very young and oh-so-precious, what was the point of the tweet? Would she have still tweeted it if it had been said "correctly"?
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When asked why he thought we got only a few eggs 2day,Collin said 'there were 2 hens laying & I didn't want to disturve them' (yes,w/ a 'v')
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This is not cute, it's continuing to infantalize.
Kate, take your child(ren) to a Speech Therapist. He should be evaluated asap so he can work on proper speaking skills. He may have multiple systems involved.
This is way not normal for an 8 year old. This stuff should have been picked up by now.-------------------------
I agree, Kate posting this is mean and disturbing. Especially for an 8 year old, but it is all about Kate trying to be amusing, I guess. I wish she would stop discussing her kids on Twitter, since she is still making them public entities, and they deserve so much better.
My prayers are with the victims of the Colorado shootings, and all their loved ones. I saw on the news that the suspect's father has already flown to Colorado to try to assist the police in the investigation. That was a very courageous and decent thing for him to do, and I hope that he can help the police deal with his son so that nobody else gets hurt. There are still explosives in the suspect's apartment, and perhaps the father can get get some information out of him to help deal with this dangerous situation without any further loss of life.
I agree the 'errors' the kids make are not fodder for public entertainment . The children will be embarrassed if/when they know about it. (Apparently Mady knows mommy tweets about her)
I remember I was mortified at age 8 when at a large family dinner,my uncle pointed out loudly that I was trying to cut my meat with the wrong side of the knife. All the adults & kids could hear and to this day, I can recall the pain of betrayal ( or so I thought) and the cringe-worthy embarrassment. I think it's cruel to purposefully point out errors in public and embarrassing others is never funny.
Anonymous: I agree..the letters after your name doesn't mean u r incapable of being crazy or hurting someone. Question....don't u think it's strange that brain tumors,, drug use, Psychotropic medication etc., will cause people to curse uncontrollably or kill people but they don't effect the brain the opposite way: for example, why don't thise things effect the brain to want to do uncontollable acts if kindness? I know, probably seems like a weird question but i just wonder why it only has a negative violent effect and yet a brain can respond in both ways but apparently noy under those conditions. I think that's weird. My thoughts and prayers go out to all the victims and to the parents if the shooter.r
We can't really say if Collin should be receiving speech-language services from this one instance. It's normal for kids (heck, even adults) to mispronounce words from time to time. Sometimes my 10 year old says something wrong, so I take the time to help her say it correctly. (This could be the problem - Kate might not address things as they come up.) If his pattern is to always mess up that sound, then there might be an issue. But even then, if he's messing up production of 1 sound then he wouldn't qualify for intervention. There are later-developing sounds that many school SLPs will take a wait-and-see approach with. For example,it's a problem if a third grader can't correctly produce /r/, but we might let that slide with a kindergartener. /s/ should always be addressed because it tends to not self-correct as the child grows and develops.
Layla: I too saw that. His apartment is rigged, door, windows. They were saying it may take days, to de-rigg apartment. The people who live around there were evacuated, and may not be able to go home for a while.
Such a useless waste of life. One needs to be sick to even contemplate such horror on another human life. The instant I heard, the movie Inglourious Bastards came to mind. Same scene, gunning people down in a theatre.
Thoughts and prayers to all~
Saw on the news that the 4-month-old (Ethan) was released from the hospital and is doing fine. I started crying when they said that the baby's father got out of the theater, and realized that baby Ethan and his mother had not come out. The father went back in because he thought that if they had been killed then he didn't want to live.
This situation just tears me apart--my older kids (teens/early twenties) love going to midnight movies, especially opening night. This just hits much too close to home.
One of my college friends couldn't say the letter r very well. "Turtle" was a particularly
difficult word for her. She was OK with it, we were OK with it, she got hired right out of college and has been a teacher for 38 years.
It didn't stand in her way, but she admits it was hard when she got teased when she was a kid. She said there was nothing they could have done for her back then.
I hope Kate's child just had a one-time blip in speech. You know Kate's going to put any kind of help off until it suits her schedule.
Butterfly,
WHy would anyone choose this target? Families and people just out for a nice evening.
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Because they can.
Because it is "more cruel" to kill innocents than soldiers.
Because killing innocents on US soil is more devastating.
Because it shows US citizens that they are not immune.
Because it shows that all innocents can be gotten to.
Because it causes more pain, a more visceral reaction, a greater fear.
On a universal social scale, one of the best ways to destroy a society is to cripple the population.
Cripple them with fear and they will more easily embrace governmental laws to limit freedoms.
Cripple them with loss of food/power/movement and they will die where they are, without fighting back.
Sometimes my thoughts frighten me, but so many books now are written with these themes. I have pretty much given up on Vince Flynn's books, as his fiction (!) tells of horrors brought by terrorists on US soil. And damned if the plots don't sound easy-peasy possible....
I'm pretty much only reading southern chick lit now; easy beach stories and humor.
In fact, I just picked up a new book about 'disappearing'. Geez, talk about timing!!!
Some skip tracer wrote a book detailing what steps someone has to take to effectively disappear off the radar. What in the world EVER prompted me to check it out??????
As long as I'm not totally freaked out, I find this kind of sociologic change interesting. But there will come a time.... in fact, actually, there has: I avoid theaters and crowds.
I'm already changed by actions like his today....
sigh.....
And Butterfly, I agree with you - the loss of life of those precious innocent children in Oklahoma City still hurts. The fact that it was done by a US citizen leaves me without words.
Wowser (130), I've wondered the same thing. Why can't there be good behaviors from a mental illness? Maybe there are and we just don't realize it because good behavior doesn't draw attention like deviant behavior does. Who knows?
My heart goes out to all the people affected by this senseless act. It's so sad. I wish there was a way to get these people to just take their own lives. I don't mean to offend - it's just that if they want or feel the need to kill, why don't they just kill themselves?!? If I ever lose my mind and decide that taking innocent lives sounds like a good idea I hope I have the sense to just take my own and spare others the horror.
Permanent name well said. Which is why shutting things down can actually put us in greater danger even if all the good intentions in the world including respect and safety were meant by it.
Admin,
Thank you.
I wish I had the answer, but I don't. I'm not sure anyone does.
It just seems eerie to be in the middle of these seminal changes in our country and the world and to be aware of them as they are happening real-time.
We're at a time in world development when we have instant communication, 24 hr internet and TV and news travels the speed of a text.
It's odd. So odd that I often, nowadays, pull in the head or put it in the sand. Somedays, it's actually too much to take.
In fact, I am getting the creepy willies even putting any of this into words. Time to step into the kitchen to make dinner.
Avoidance technique: talk about dinner menu:
I just made a weird but good salad:
Aduki beans
matchstick english cucumber
cashews
chopped up fresh peach
dried cranberries
ground flax seed
crumbled goat cheese
low fat ceasar viniagrette
Toss, serve at room temp.
Escape is just as close as your kitchen.
Meditating on peace for all...
Too much of this story for me today. I have to nap so I can go to work and get back to the usual- killings in the war by our enemies. The ones I have become desensitized to. This board is my decompression haven, LOL.
Julianna: Sorry have to disagree with you , a lot of people with degrees are intellectually challenged.
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...and I have to disagree back! Sort of! :) A person with no smarts is not going to have the intelligence to graduate with honors at the top of the class academically if he has no intelligence. He may be gifted intellectually in his chosen field of study, but to graduate with honors requires not only classes in one field only, but in a diversity of classes. If you major in science, you still have to take courses in English, humanities and history, and if your grades are low in those courses or if you fail a course, you'll graduate, but it won't be at the top of your class or with honors. You can't make the Dean's List with Cs and Ds in any course.
I, too, have known super-smart people with degrees who figure out how to put gas in the car. My point was in regards to academics -- you have to be intelligent to graduate with honors.
Has Kate said anything about the shootings, or is she too busy tweeting pictures of her homemade pizza?
So heartbreaking about the tragedy in Aurora, CO. Warmest thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, the families, and everyone else impacted. May we all appreciate life for the beautiful but fragile gift that it is.
Wishing all of you wonderful people and great weekend.
My escape will be a weekend of awesome young adults "invading" our home for a bible study. 20 tonight to do preparations. 60 tomorrow. + 20 adults as speakers and support.
We have been planning and preparing for weeks.
Boys will sleep in tents. Girls get the lower level of our home.
Hubby will be the cook. I am the logistics. My nephew planned the day. It is the second annual bible event and they named this one "Where is the Love?"
These young adults are the future. Their choices. Their character.
I hope this ministry is part of a solution....a strengthening of goodness and kindness and morality.
low fat ceasar viniagrette
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What? No vinegar Rumspringa?
Speaking of intelligence, what is it about the sheeple who are so needy that they don't know how to use google?
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@Kateplusmy8 Was wondering where I could obtain your peanutbutter/honey play dough recipe.
I just heard on one of the news stations, that the shooter was tryin to be the joker from the film. Makes me wonder if he was taking fandom role playing too far. Perhaps he was living in some fantasy world. They just had Comic con in San Diego, I wonder if he attended, since he is from there, and is a fan of the movie genra. You know there are some people who take fandom way too serious. I guess we will have to wait & see what else, that is if he says anything else on why?
Dmasy: your bible event has an opportunity to talk about why some people are socially excepted in our world, as in why some are bullied for being different and what your bible event is about : Where is the love? making the connection. And how can we change things. Cause you know this tragic event will be brought up. What could have gone wrong with this young man and the others, who have done something like this. Food for thought.
I know that this is not important in the scheme of things, because either way, several innocent people lost their lives and many more were injured. But out of curiousity (and maybe this has already been addressed, I haven't read comments yet), has Kate addressed the tragedy on twitter? I only ask because several celebrities have offered kind words and condolences and I was just curious at to whether or not she had.
I attended high school with Dr. Richard Sharpe. He was quiet and really smart. You never know what's going on inside someone's head.
OT (as usual, for me) - I found a site I think most of you will like...
http://explore.org/#!/live-cams/player/service-puppy-cam
Aduki beans
matchstick english cucumber
cashews
chopped up fresh peach
dried cranberries
ground flax seed
crumbled goat cheese
low fat ceasar viniagrette
FORGOT TO SAY...
Also had blueberries and bean sprouts.
It's one of those whats-in-the-fridge dinners.
And DH just picked all the fruit out of the leftovers in the bowl. We would have had enough for a lunch tomorrow, but alas, he is a leftover fruit thief.
Can't say anything because the whole time he was picking those beans clean he was complimenting me on the recipe. LOL He's a clever one, isn't he?
Tomorrows lunch menu: aduki bean salad with... nothing else! :-)
Dmasy, your group sounds interesting. I remember bible studies from when I was a child. Good times. Have fun this weekend and may it be a peaceful time for you all.
One of the few current events Kate ever commented on oddly enough was the Casey Anthony verdict.
Workingwoman and everyone else: Kate has said nothing, just about washing the cement dust off her car, and making pizza for dinner. Not one word. YET!
Worker no she hadn't addressed it. She's in her own little world as usual making pizza and washing the car of cement.
I guess we will have to wait & see what else, that is if he says anything else on why?
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He hired an attorney. He had been cooperating with the police and told them about the explosives in his apartment. He is no longer saying anything.
Has anyone heard anything of the condition of the infant?
Wow. Just WOW. It is true that you can grieve for the victims and families without posting anything on Twitter or another public forum, but seriously, with all of the meaningless shit she insists on sharing with the public??? Like that boo-boo on her finger that she took a picture of a little while ago? The tears over Kate plus 8 reruns? They are more post-worthy than a thoughtful message to everyone affected by the shooting?
She's unbelievable. It's nice to see that the world is filled with other wonderful people who do care.
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I guess we will have to wait & see what else, that is if he says anything else on why?
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He hired an attorney. He had been cooperating with the police and told them about the explosives in his apartment. He is no longer saying anything.
Has anyone heard anything of the condition of the infant?
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Saw the infant and her parents on tv. The mother was wounded but released. Baby is fine :)
Jane, thank you for the update, what a relief!
Hmm did you washing your hands Kate and use foil while serving/handling the pizza.
Oh cripes. She made pizza in happyland. Still not a word about Colorado. I guess in her mind nothing matches the tragedy of her not having a reality show anymore. Nothing could be more terrible.
Just watch. When she does speak about it she's going to say she was at a loss for words.
Why can't there be good behaviors from a mental illness? Maybe there are and we just don't realize it because good behavior doesn't
draw attention like deviant behavior does. 137
Mrs. Malaprop, this is an excellent point.
Mrs. Malaprop said... 131
We can't really say if Collin should be receiving speech-language services from this one instance. It's normal for kids (heck, even adults) to mispronounce words from time to time.
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I didnt copy your entire text, but I do want to say 'point well made and well taken'. Thank you for your gracious comments and logical opinions! :)
Oh cripes. She made pizza in happyland. Still not a word about Colorado. I guess in her mind nothing matches the tragedy of her not having a reality show anymore. Nothing could be more terrible.
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In her mind, tragedy is when she tweets that she's having a panic attack because she can't find a Bella Bar to have with her coffee. What a nonsensical and juvenile tweet.
I really think that she has absolutely no knowledge of what's happening in the world around her. She's built this little cocoon for herself and her kids and has no interest in anything other than Kate Gosselin.
Good behavior actually does occur all the time for people with all kinds of serious mental illnesses if they have the right drugs, support, and other factors. I've seen some really heartwarming success stories (but don't get me wrong, not always). It used to be we locked these people up in the looney bin, now we at least attempt to try to help.
Just saw on the news that the couple that brought their three month old infant (baby was injured in the leg but is fine) to the movies also brought their four year old child as well. While I'm glad all of them are okay, what would possess them to bring them to a violent film. One of the victims that was killed was a 24 year aspiring newscaster who survived a shooting at a Toronto mall recently. So sad.
TMZ has a cell phone video taken from inside the theatre right after the shootings. You're in a theatre where a shootings have occured and rather than try to help the victims you whip out your phone and videotape them? And of course, TMZ has to post it?
I know it's tabloid journalism, but some things should be off limits.
amyf said... 149
OT (as usual, for me) - I found a site I think most of you will like...
http://explore.org/#!/live-cams/player/service-puppy-cam
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PUPPIES!!! A live puppy cam. Thanks Amyf. They're adorable. I'll be checking it often. I bookmarked it.
Great distraction after such a sad day.
I guess I can kind of see someone advising Kate that it's better just not to comment on current events it's too controversial generally, but if that's what she's chosen to do on days of national tragedy you should probably also avoid the lollipop and rainbow tweets like you don't have a care in the world about cement on your car and pizza making.
TMZ has a cell phone video taken from inside the theatre right after the shootings. You're in a theatre where a shootings have occured and rather than try to help the victims you whip out your phone and videotape them? And of course, TMZ has to post it?
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There are some cases that having a tape might prove to be very beneficial in a court trial, or in analyzing a crime. Think about the Zapruder film. He just kept filming and it's amazing that with everyone there, it's the only film that surfaced that shows the shooting frame by frame. It has been analyzed over and over again to try to determine exactly what happened, how many shots were fired and from where.
That said, my very last thought if I had been in that theater would be to whip out my cell phone and videotape. Minds work in strange ways, I guess.
This is way off topic, but I thought some of you might be interested in this article, especially since many of us enjoy using social media (blogs, Twitter, Pinterest, etc.) It's a cautionary tale, with lawyerly advice, that outlines the copyright rules for posting photos.
I thought it was okay, for instance, to post outside images, so long as I included a link to the original source. WRONG! I'll be deleting quite a few photographs this weekend, and am a wiser girl, going forward. When we know better, we do better, right?
http://www.roniloren.com/blog/2012/7/20/bloggers-beware-you-can-get-sued-for-using-pics-on-your-blog.html
admin, 167: I guess I can kind of see someone advising Kate that it's better just not to comment on current events it's too controversial generally
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I can't imagine anyone in his or her right mind advising her to do this. Of course it's entirely possible, but it would make her look like an uncaring fool. She wouldn't have to get into a lengthy dissertation about it, but simply have tweeted something like, "this was a tragedy and my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families."
If anyone is interested, here is a link to the NBC tv station in Denver, which has been providing continuos coverage. A press conference is due to be held shortly.
http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx
I see there is going to be one of those entertainment shows on tonight where they talk about celebs' reactions to the Colorado shooting. Many stations have shown tweets from celebs about it. The real celebs are aware of what is going on in the world. Kate is so self-absorbed that all she thinks about is her Bella bar, her car, and her pizzas. If it's not about her, then it isn't worth commenting on.
Funny that she seems to be waiting until the last minute to head off to her run. She used to stay away for several days (with Steve) every opportunity she got. I'm thinking it's a money issue--she can't pay for multiple nights in a hotel, and for Steve to be with her for multiple days. The kids must be happy, though--they probably get to spend time with their dad for the third week in a row.
Also, she wants to be seen as a serious runner, and yet her runs keep getting shorter. Seems like it would be the opposite of she were a real runner. She went from a full marathon to a half marathon, then 7 miles in Connecticut, and now a 5K. And the one for Special Olympics is a 5K. Shouldn't she start off with shorter runs and build up?
The copyright issue...
http://www.roniloren.com/blog/2012/7/20/bloggers-beware-you-can-get-sued-for-using-pics-on-your-blog.html
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Didn't Kate use a picture of a flag cake on her blog, not attributing it to the site from where she copied it?
She wouldn't have to get into a lengthy dissertation about it, but simply have tweeted something like, "this was a tragedy and my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims and their families."
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Seems like Kate won't respond to something like this unless she has something in HER life that could trump it. It's her narcissism and even if she does feel compassion, not saying anything about it makes her appear as if she doesn't have any compassion. You're right, she really could tweet a short condolence.
mapat70
Everyone take 2 minute to help @Kateplusmy8 get to 100,000 followers or gr8r. Remember all good deeds for the deserving never go unrewarded!
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This creep has been on Kate's twitter for days on end. There's something very "off" about him, and I hope that if Kate does have a security team, they have put this guy on their list. She has no idea of how dangerous it is to encourage, praise and thank such a person. I just don't have good feelings about this.
The sheeple band together and think that anyone who is a fan is a good person. It appears to be the non-fans that are concerned about Kate's safety. The fans just go along their merry way, tweeting rainbows and praising stalkers without ever sitting down and thinking that not all sheeple in the flock may be innocent and well-meaning.
Admin 167, I suppose someone could be advising this. However, it wouldn't be controversial in the slightest for her to comment on it. She doesn't have to go into her views on American gun laws, just a sympathetic tweet for those affected and those who are grieving. I really don't see why anyone would tell her not to do that, it would make her look partly human. What she tweets or doesn't tweet is not my business at all, it is just baffling to me.
Seems like Kate won't respond to something like this unless she has something in HER life that could trump it.
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Yeah, I guess the panic attack that ensued when she couldn't find a Bella Bar just isn't going to trump it.
You're right, though. Unless there is a ME ME ME ME ME in a tweet, why bother?
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I see there is going to be one of those entertainment shows on tonight where they talk about celebs' reactions to the Colorado shooting. Many stations have shown tweets from celebs about it. The real celebs are aware of what is going on in the world. Kate is so self-absorbed that all she thinks about is her Bella bar, her car, and her pizzas. If it's not about her, then it isn't worth commenting on.
Funny that she seems to be waiting until the last minute to head off to her run. She used to stay away for several days (with Steve) every opportunity she got. I'm thinking it's a money issue--she can't pay for multiple nights in a hotel, and for Steve to be with her for multiple days. The kids must be happy, though--they probably get to spend time with their dad for the third week in a row.
Also, she wants to be seen as a serious runner, and yet her runs keep getting shorter. Seems like it would be the opposite of she were a real runner. She went from a full marathon to a half marathon, then 7 miles in Connecticut, and now a 5K. And the one for Special Olympics is a 5K. Shouldn't she start off with shorter runs and build up?
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I think she only did the marathons for attention and publicity since the show was cancelled.
And now that she not getting what she wants loads of coverage & attention and publicity.
She going to do shorter & shorter runs till she stops.
I still don't believe that she ran the R&R LV marathon.
Kate's not saying anything because first she has to think how she can spin it to be about her. If she does ever say anything, she'll probably use it to reiterate why she doesn't take the kids to the movies.
Ughhh..from the QUEEN of over-reaction!
Kate Gosselin on Disciplining Unruly Toddlers
POSTED BY SHANAABORN | JANUARY 26TH, 2012 AT 10:09 AM
Kate Gosselin answers fans' questions.
Her eight children may be well past the terrible-twos stage, but Kate Gosselin has plenty of memories of raising a houseful of toddlers, and the experience and wisdom to dispense advice to moms going through the same issues. That’s why fans of hers enjoy asking her questions on the “Ask Kate” channel of her website.
Not long ago, a concerned mother named Tara asked the reality-show star, “Have any of your children ever experienced aggression?” Tara has a 2-year-old daughter who has been biting, pinching and kicking, even though the mom hasn’t seen others doing the same to her.
Kate assured the mom that she’s far from alone. “Yes, I have experienced it over the years in various situations.” She explained that sibling rivalry is sometimes to blame, and that young toddlers “can’t usually express in words their frustrations and typically lash out with those behaviors.”
She then laid out her suggested do’s and don’ts for combating aggression in little ones.First step: Don’t overreact – that can prompt the child to keep on biting and kicking. “Calmly, remind her that it hurts you physically when she does those things, and the pain makes you cry.”
Second: Don’t give the child a bite or pinch of your own to “show her how it feels.” Kate says, “I have mixed feelings about that because I believe in being the example, and certainly that isn’t, lol!”
Third: Give a two-minute time-out if you think it’s necessary. “Only you know if she needs to ‘take a break’ and calm down, which is usually the case and ‘time-out’ will achieve that.”
Finally: Have a talk with the child, explaining in simple terms why hitting and biting isn’t the way to handle a frustrating situation and suggesting better ways to cope with her feelings. Kate adds that it will take a while for the child to catch on, but she will in the end.
“Bottom line is: She’s not a monster,” Kate concluded. “This is a phase she is going through and although you can’t ignore it or condone it, it will take many many conversations to show her that this is inappropriate behavior.”
Wise words from a mom who’s been there!
What do you think? Have you found a different way to deal with an out-of-control toddler?
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Kate loves to retweet so much, she could have just retweeted her "friend" Roma Downey's tweet:
Roma Downey@RealRomaDowney
My prayers are with all the people involved in the heartbreak of these senseless shootings May God bring comfort
We also have to remember she has important things on her mind like getting to Chicago and waiting in anticipation for her 100,000th follower.
Layla: perhaps Coupon cabin, does not want to pay no more than a day or two for Kate,and not for security for Kate either, anything more comes out of her pocket. Also maybe Kate was depending on CC to get her interviews on local TV, that does not look like it will happen. Yea, for us in Chicago and area. Cc said they were planning some special stuff with/for Kate, at first to get people to use coupon, then slowly changed what they originally hinted at. 1st a possible meeting with Kate, & discount on race, then to sweeten, maybe a M & G, throw a t-shirt in, then you will be in same corral with Kate, and maybe a tent meeting after run. Then no promises, just maybe you might meet Kate. No publicity, I've seen none, no CC commercials, only mention, the Tribune paper online, not sure if that was also in the printed paper. And of course Kate hardly even mentioning the marathon or even running. Judging from the comments Kate gets at CC, CC's little coupon event was a flop. I think they may be finding out or waking up that Kate is not that popular as they were told or they think she is, and that she is not well liked at CC either, by the couponders.
This guy is getting creepier and creepier. Now he's asking Ellen DeGeneres to help Kate.
mapat70
@TheEllenShow can you tweet out 4 ppl 2 follow & support @Kateplusmy8 the way she is being treated is awful. If ne1 can help it is u thnx :)
As I recall, Kate's answer to aggression between the siblings was for the aggressor to say I'm sorry, give a hug and be done with it.
It solved nothing that I could see. Of course they weren't sorry, and they didn't sound like they were sorry. They were just avoiding more pressure from Mommy to say they were sorry.
If a child said something or did something against Kate, however, it was a trip to the time out rug in the corner. They would run to that, crying and frustrated, but they went without too much protest. I always wondered why. I can guess, but it's only a guess.
How's the movie Admin? Lots of people there?
mapat70
@TheEllenShow can you tweet out 4 ppl 2 follow & support @Kateplusmy8 the way she is being treated is awful. If ne1 can help it is u thnx :)
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Oh no. He talks in code too!
Kate does not tweet condolences to the victims and their families because she
DOESN'T CARE!
She did tweet congrats to Roma Downey and Mark Burnett for his Emmy nominations right away!
I wonder why she did that?? Hmmmmmm!
Amy F. OT (as usual, for me) - I found a site I think most of you will like...
http://explore.org/#!/live-cams/player/service-puppy-cam
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Amy: I just found this site yesterday. The puppies are adorable. I have been watching this site all day while watching the news on tv and the innocence of puppies really helped to lighten an otherwise tragic day. Prayers to all those involved and their families.
Oh no. He talks in code too!
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Fido, he's got a few screws loose. I was reading back over his tweets and saw that he contacts celebrities and pretends to be their best friends. It's quite scary. I went back a few months and when I saw a tweet to a friend of mine (a celebrity) my jaw dropped. I think I need to make a phone call and put someone on alert about this person!
Oh geez, now Milo "knows" personal things about Kate and Jon. Are these people getting more delusional by the day? Is it something in the water?
MiloandJack
@strawberrypsu I agree....Aurora tragedy has been on my mind! I do know some things...but not privileged 2share. Respect4privacy Jon&Kate!
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 173
The copyright issue...
http://www.roniloren.com/blog/2012/7/20/bloggers-beware-you-can-get-sued-for-using-pics-on-your-blog.html
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Didn't Kate use a picture of a flag cake on her blog, not attributing it to the site from where she copied it?
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Yes, she did. But apparently attribution isn't enough. You have to have prior, expressed permission, even if you use a link-back. Otherwise you can get hit with a Cease and Desist letter & hefty usage fee. Same with Twitter, Facebook and Pinterest. I wasn't aware of that, and thought others might also appreciate learning from the sadder-but-wiser blogger who wrote that entry.
Improbable Dreams said... 191
Fleecing The Sheeple said... 173
The copyright issue...
http://www.roniloren.com/blog/2012/7/20/bloggers-beware-you-can-get-sued-for-using-pics-on-your-blog.html
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Didn't Kate use a picture of a flag cake on her blog, not attributing it to the site from where she copied it?
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Yes, she did [use an unattributed photo]. But apparently attribution isn't enough. You have to have prior, expressed permission, even if you use a link-back. Otherwise you can get hit with a Cease and Desist letter & hefty usage fee. Same with Twitter, Facebook and Pinterest. I wasn't aware of that, and thought others might also appreciate learning from the sadder-but-wiser blogger who wrote that entry.
edited to add the phrase in brackets. Sorry for the ambiguity.
mapat70
@TheEllenShow can you tweet out 4 ppl 2 follow & support @Kateplusmy8 the way she is being treated is awful. If ne1 can help it is u thnx :)
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How is she being treated awful?
I must be missing something here cause I don't see it.
Tributes to victims brings the shootings to a much more personal level. This beautiful girl, her entire life ahead of her, was one of the victims. The last paragraph brings one to tears...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/more/07/20/jessica-redfield-aurora/index.html
You all know that I'm not a Kate fan and I am in no way defending her, but at this point this may be a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. She hasn't mentioned the shooting and the "haters" are saying "the bitch doesn't care about anything unless it affects her". On the other hand if she mentions it now those same people will be saying "the bitch is only mentioning it because we brought it up". Do you see my point of damned if you do and damned if you don't? I agree that she probably should have said something this morning but now it's probably too late for her. I'm wondering if she's even home. Although she talks about ut being pizza night those pictures could have been taken any time. Her run is Sunday and it's not like her to not be in the five star hotel for the pre-run pampering.
How does Milo know anything about Jon and Kate we don't know? Are we supposed to believe Kate is confiding in MILO?
Jessica the movie was very good, full of surprises, and it was packed. They had three theaters going. We hadn't seen each other all day so we did a lot of talking about what happened first. And cuddled a little closer during the film. It's interesting how tragedies like this make you just want to hold the ones you love and appreciate them all the more. It's one of the few good things that comes out of it--it makes you pause.
You all know that I'm not a Kate fan and I am in no way defending her, but at this point this may be a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.
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I tend to agree with this. I actually think it sounds like she has decided for herself or someone suggested that she never bring up current events. It just never goes well for her so it's better not to say anything at all and deal with the criticism she doesn't care.
But like I said earlier if that's the case she might want to stay quiet on Twitter on days like this. When she tweets like nothing ever happened it seems out of touch.
Were you able to even focus or enjoy that movie considering the entire country is in mourning?
I live in Canada and what happened has even made me sick to my stomach. I'll never be able to see anything related to Batman and NOT think of those 12 innocent people who were shot to death.
I think that, for ONE measly nite at the very least, that movie should not have been made available for viewing directly the day after such horrific events.
Seems cold and disrespectful for those families and many, many others affected by those tragic events.
Maybe a candle vigil should have been held at each theatre instead? JMO
Canadian it was hard to focus. We bought the tickets a week ago, prepaid. You have to to be able to see it opening day. I'm sure if we hadn't done that we would have done something else. I'm not sure when it will be okay to see this movie.
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