Much like last year, Kate, who said she didn't have the kids for the holiday, spent her July Fourth parental alienating Jon, and organizing her desk. (Last year, Kate accused Jon of not taking the kids to church even though she asked him to, while in the same breath admitting she slept in that Sunday, and also retweeted a fan's tweet that "Jon ruined that family but she healed it," and thanked her.) One of her most disturbing and alienating tweets, tweeted on July 4 in the evening (in response to someone remarking how she was happy the kids were with Jon), is this one:
"me too. The fact that he asked, always is worth my loneliness.I'm happy for them even if it's somehow hard for both me&kids"
Perhaps Kate's behavior, and the behavior of other parents like her who hate their ex's more than they love their children, will soon be recognized for what it is, a mental health problem.
Thanks to Kate's own Reading Eagle for keeping this important topic in the news.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 825 Newer› Newest»I imagine at first all the attention and adoration was kind of fun for her on twitter. But after awhile even that must get old. I think you can only listen to how much someone adores you so much before it just gets creepy.
When my mother and biological father got divorced (back in the 1960's) my brothers went to live with him by their own choice and I stayed with my mother (I was a late in life baby so my brothers were teenagers and I was about 3 years old).
When my brothers visited, my mother never said a word about their father. She made a decision not to talk badly about their father. He, on the other had, couldn't say enough bad things about my mother.
The reason I refer to my brothers father as "their father" is because my mother remarried and I was raised by my "step father" who I consider my real father.
Anyway, years later, when my brothers were adults, they said to my mother one day "You know, you never said one bad word about our father after the divorce. We never should have gone to live with him."
You see, my step father had offered them to come live with us but my brothers believed all the lies and negativity their father spouted off over the years and when they got older they realized how much of their lives were wasted on those lies. The could have had a better life with my step father. They still regret it to this day.
So the moral of the story is, Kate, knock off bad mouthing the kids father! You are only causing more damage to the kids with your little digs at their father. Remember, he was good enough to marry and have kids with and it was your decision to end the marriage. So just knock it off!
Wayward, 195 -- Everything you said. Really. My thoughts...your words. Thanks. I hope that Kate does read here.
And if all that adoration from her sheeple isn't doing anything for her like getting her free stuff or a gig somewhere she's doing what she always does, tossing them to the curb.
Her sheeple let her down twice now. Not enough signed up for the cruise and now I don't think very many signed up for the Chicago marathon either. They're on thin ice with her.
I might actually agree with the don't judge thing if Kate tweeted that she is going off twitter and going to live a quiet life out of the public eye now and please don't judge her anymore. But she wants a public lifestyle but doesn't want what always comes with it, judgment.
That's true Admin. She can't be judged if she disappears. Gee, Kate gone. The very thought makes me tingly all over.
In a few hours, our adult guests will be departing. I will have my 3 nieces here for the remainder of the week. (Ages 15, 10 and 8.)
I am so enjoying their view of life. Yesterday we went down to the river. I had some planned activities. But, the spontaneous contest to find a perfect rock was better. We built fire pits and cleared a tent site. They were so funny with a fresh humor that our adult household lacks.
Kate has a wealth of pleasure in her home -- if she just wasn't so determined to choke it to death.
When Jon disappeared people pretty much stopped talking about him. I didn't do posts about him or anything. When he came back, people started talking again and I did posts again.
What's fair is fair. If you want to be in the public eye people will talk. If you go away, we'll respect your right to go away and stop.
I just realized it might look like am "tweeting" while entertaining. Kate? For the moment all guests are occupied elsewhere. I just cleaned up after our pancake breakfast.
On Friday, Kate tweeted "Don't judge my path if you haven't walked my journey.
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Aw but Kate you make it so easy to judge you.
With all the childish behavior and shoving people under the bus and fake tears.
Plus I don't like to wear hooker heels.
Admin, think about it...some of us remember time before the food pyramid! ;-)
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And the old-timers here still have never heard of it and continue to thrive on their meals of potatoes and fried food, with everything covered in gravy! Pyramids are in Egypt!
"Nope, Berks - you are not weird! I grew up in NE PA & our family would also have corn & sliced tomatoes for supper - and we wouldn't have something like pot roast for lunch either."
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Thanks, County Mom, and to all others who say they eat a meal of only corn! I was beginning to get paranoid, thinking that all these years I (and two generations before me) was doing something strange! What's really funny is that some friends, who are still without power in the next county, invited us for supper. They are grilling. She said, "Come for corn." She said they have more corn than they know what to do with. I asked her what else they were having. I had to do it. Long pause. "Sliced tomatoes. What else do you want?"
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Her sheeple let her down twice now. Not enough signed up for the cruise and now I don't think very many signed up for the Chicago marathon either. They're on thin ice with her.
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Lol.... it gets better.
There's some kind of dustup at the barn and one of the sheep left the flock. I think the defector is actually still a Kate fan per se.... it's just that they seemed to have had enough of the sheeple hypocrisy of threatening lawsuits and whining about bullying. When in reality it's many of them who are doing the bulk of the bullying and partaking in tracking people down to "out" them. This person has been releasing emails sent between one another. In one email, a sheep thinks some of the flock is out to get her because at that time Kate had been twatting with her more than the other ewes. The defector was going to forward some of these emails to Kate.
It seems like just when we think Kate has had enough of twatter and her needy, helpless tweeple, she comes back full force with 40 twats in an hour. But it does look like she might have finally realized they are bad news.
LisaNH....I totally agree with you that her constant bashing of the kids father will backfire on Kate some day.
My parents split up too in the 60's when I was 6 years old. My mother took us 3 kids back to her hometown which was 100 miles from my father. She didn't bash him but the man she eventually married wanted us to have nothing with our real father. He had an agenda for not wanting my dad around but that's a whole other story. He made my mother get rid of anything that had anything to do with my father, her wedding and engagement rings and all of our baby pictures, (thank God she only gave them to my aunt to hold for her). One time when my dad came to pick us up for visitation this man had the police waiting there for him because he was late on child support payments. Luckily the police chief knew my father and let him go. Other times when my father was due to pick us up for visitation my stepfather would put us all in the car a couple of hours before he was due to arrive and take us away. I would cry and cry knowing my father drove all that way and we weren't going to be there when he got there.
Eventually I would throw so many tantrums saying I wanted to live with my father they relented and allowed my dad to pick me up. I was 10 years old then. I ended up going to live with dad and his new wife and she was awful too so after about 8 months old I was back with my mother. Dad's new wife called my mother and said she was moving out and she needed to come and get me. My mother picked me up while dad was working and he came home to an empty house.
Oh God, I could keep going and going with this but I'll cut it short. I went 5 years without speaking to or seeing my dad. When the stepfather finally moved out I called my dad at age 15 and we have been together since. When I was 27 years old I moved to my dads town with my children and have been here ever since. I never held any of this against my mother because she was genuinely remorseful after it was all over but I did live 100 miles away from her which was hard on my mother having me and her grandkids so far.
Even though my father was bashed to me and there were a few outsiders in the picture who tried desperately to keep us apart over the years we became closer than ever. We had a bond that no one or no thing could ever break and their efforts made it all the stronger. This is why, I think, I am having such a hard time now dealing with his cancer. In the past few weeks I have lost 12 lbs. and I am sick at my stomach. I'm having a hard time at work concentrating and am obssesed with finding him the absolute best healthcare. Maybe this is one of the reason Kate Gosselin makes me sick to my stomach. I know what alienating a child from their parent does to a child. I also know though with all of my heart someday this is going to come back to bite her in the ass big time. I can't wait for that day.
Oh Is corn in season already in PA? It was only "knee high by the fourth of july" when I was back East last week but making me itch to get some on the grill ASAP.
Wayward 195 -- (Sound of clapping) Brava! Ecellent summation.
Kate, if you don't want to be judged, then there are steps you can take to put a stop to it. You don't seem to have learned that all actions have consequences, for good or for ill. YOU made the decision to shine a spotlight on your life. The consequence of that decision is that people will judge you. What did you think would happen? Did you seriously expect that 100% of the population would bow down and admire your life and your behavior and never have an opinion? YOU judge people every day. YOU judge Jon and call him mediocre because he wants a more private, simpler, less stressful life for your children. YOU judge us and call us haters and bullies because we feel you are treating your children and other people badly. Try walking on our path for once. Or, better yet, try walking your children's path. You don't want to be judged? There's a simple remedy. Turn off the spotlight.
What's fair is fair. If you want to be in the public eye people will talk. If you go away, we'll respect your right to go away and stop.
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Absolutely. Kate thrives on attention. She put herself out there and then throws it in our faces that we shouldn't judge. You don't want people to judge, then take down twitter and that ridiculous blog and don't tell us how exhausted you are, what your littles said, or that you ran 100 miles in 150 degree heat. Just zip it. And stop retweeting all of the positivity quotes and inspirational messages. Not everything in life is all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows. You deal with it.
Yeah I didn't think about how SHE judges reader lady.
She judges her children's relationship with their dad, labeling it things like "hard" and "tough." She judges him as a father, judging him for not taking them to church (maybe he doesn't want to waste a moment away from them sitting in church while they're in Sunday school, Kate who doesn't go to church much EITHER), judging his job, judging his relationships, judging everything about him. He even gave her an olive branch and called her a good mom and she still can't help herself.
Just watched the episode on The View when Kate was "hosting" with the girls and Dr. Phil was on. Whoopi made a comment about Jon saying something negative about her in the press and how Kate would never do that. Kate went on and on about how she is a "higher road taker" and would never say anything negative about him "for her kids"....yet another lie ...it would be interesting to have all her contradictions listed. They asked Dr. Phil his opinion on reality tv marriages and how having cameras in your face basically ruins relationships..Kate went ballistic defending her show and Dr. Phil didn't even look at her..he basically snubbed her. It was a very telling interview. She really is circling the drain. If there was such a thing as a "narcissistic support groups" club, we would probably find out that there are hundreds if them but that each group only has one member!
I love corn. I eat it for breakfast some days. DH just shakes his head when he sees the cobs in the kitchen! So far this year, the corn has been fantastic and in fact, tonight we're having "Mexican" corn, which is just corn smeared with a mayo mixed with chili, parmesan or cotija cheese, lime, butter. I mean seriously, try it especially on grilled corn with a little char and smoke.
My dogs all love corn, and two of them can eat it off the cob. It's so damn cute. The third one just never figured it out. He's dumb, but oh so lovable.
To comment on Kate's dredging up the Alaska episode (which is was obviously alluding to), if the film showed the camping trip which occurred in a parallel universe or in say, Opposite World, then yes, the kids really wanted to leave.
Those kids sure fooled me!!
But seriously folks, it's just sad, so sad that Kate feels she needs to rewrite history. Her ego seems very big, but it is precariously fragile. Imagine having to lie all the time because you are unable to accept reality. What she does time and again is put forth and live in a different reality. It must be maddening to live with.
Word for the day: Gaslighting. Look it up Kate. It's what you constantly do to you children.
Gaslighting, wow what a great way to describe it.
Essentially the Alaska incident has been gaslighted such that it's not what it was: Kate was crazy to leave. Now it's, anyone who stayed must have been crazy!
What a clever manipulator she is. I hope the kids don't fall for it.
Does anyone think that she's done with tweeting or at least getting tired of it? Or will she start again with her determination bullshit? I mean really...it's getting her nowhere. Her twitter is very slow accept for some wacky overseas fans who are just getting a wiff of what she really is and the usual haters. If the hater stopped there would be no traffic at all. I always think she will get her second wind and torture us with her tweets of fake inspiration.
Soon, Kate won't be able to reinvent history and mold the kids' minds like she has.
You did want to leave, you just don't remember. You really were miserable and crying and told me you wanted to go.
Eventually, Kate's reality becomes the kids' reality so yeah, I believe the kids may very well have talked about the Alaska trip and wanting to leave.
I'm sure that Kate told them "see, isn't this cabin so much better!" "Camping was awful".
Also, Kate's extreme isolation of the children aids in her controlling what they think of as normal, right and wrong. When the children are exposed to the world around them, they will have a lot of reconciling to do.
Of course, I meant excellent, not ecellent! Sorry. Must remember to proof-read before hitting publish.
Tucker's Mom -- I had a cat who loved corn on the cob, too. If there was any way he could get his paws on it, he'd nibble it off row by row. When I was growing up, we had a turtle that lived in our basement. Just an ordinary box turtle my mother rescued from the middle of the road. In the summer time, Mom would put it out in the back yard, but it always stayed around and would start crawling toward the basement door when she opened it. Anyway -- that turtle loved corn on the cob, too. When we had it for dinner, Mom would always take a half an ear downstairs to Myrtle (I don't know if it was a boy turtle or a girl turtle, but my dad dubbed it Myrtle). It would put a flipper on each end of the cob and eat the kernals off one at a time.
Correct me if I'm wrong - didn't Jon and Kate ask for first class airfare when they were doing their sheep fleecing church circuits? If so, she started very early with her primadona
attitude.
Over in Berks - thanks for the corn pie recipe. It looks exactly like I remember it. My grandma used to serve extra "juice" on the side that I think was just milk and butter. I really need to try it. My Mom's fried eggplant was just slices dipped in egg (mixed with a little Worchestershire for some reason), rolled in dry bread crumbs and then fried in oil. Served with ketchup of course.
readerlady- Myrtyle the turtle, too cute! Funny that he's come back in the house. I guess he knew where the good fod was!
Did someone say not too many people signed up for the Chicago marathon? How would anyone know this...although I'm sure it's true considering her failures lately. Maybe thats why she's quiet...vacation withdrawal..
(This is Remona)
Tucker's Mom's comment that what Kate does to her children (and Jon?) is ''Gaslighting'' is the perfect way to describe Kate's actions! From this moment on, every time I read anything that Kate says, in tweets or in interviews, I will read/see her comments with ''Gaslighting'' in my mind!
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Coupon Cabin is sponsoring the Chicago run, correct? Does anybody ever go the the CC website? There may be something there about the run. Then again, maybe not. Whenever Kate is involved I become mystified.
Wowser 18-If there was such a thing as a "narcissistic support groups" club, we would probably find out that there are hundreds if them but that each group only has one member!
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Hilarious!
It is so hard to imagine that Kate forces those kids to sit in that basement, maybe with popcorn, and watch over and over those films of KJ8 and K8, especially when the kids see former relatives/friends/happier times in their lives/travels that they hardly remember as they were tiny tots/slept through the trips. Plus the big
fact, Kate screamed and screamed, she grabbed those kids by one arm and dragged them around, remember all of that? She was not a loving mother. So, if she does not see this, why is Jon allowing this to occur?
Does Collin need to be reminded of how much she screamed at him? Joel? Alexis? Kate was brutal on TV. How about that boating trip when the kids were so sick and she was showing the camera the vomit on the kids? Talk about reliving your horrors of childhood.
Jon, you should do something about her. You need to be a man, work full time, keep your job and get more time with those kids, unless you are as immature as I think you are and I do. You should have those kids more. They need a normal exposure. Somehow you did it this 4th of July, now do it more.
Right now, after I read the posts and Kate and her thanking those who "fought" it reminds me to remind everyone that there are families who need that extra dozen ears of corn you may have right in your neighborhood. Ask your churches, ask the schools, ask the Amer Red Cross (they know who is away serving) and drop off that dozen ears of corn.
Kate had all of that land to herself on the 4th of July, that pool. She could not call the American Red Cross and invite a couple of families to enjoy a BBQ and that pool for 4 or 5 hours? The families would be very normal people who need a "hand up" right now. Even a military family with one or both parents deployed. Check out the American Red Cross sight. You can do small things, like coupons you normally throw out.
We can all help right now, please, something small is better than nothing at all. The US Forest Rangers in Colo have been burned out of their homes also. They live in a govt home, so no insurance for their belongings and they have families too.
You may not be able to help those in Colo but look around, check out the web sites and please help in the smallest way possible. Sometimes, just a casserole for a family helps, you have neighbors who are out of work.
Thank you if you post this Admin. Please edit it anyway you can. My husband served for 35 yrs and there were times I just needed some can goods to help me get from one pay to another. Even used clothing, household items helped me. I have now that hubby is retired given back every week in some way to someone. Even a dollar or a sandwich to that guy standing on the corner with that sign "will work for food or money" gets something from me.
We need to do more and be aware of how our neighbors need help.
Jon, you should do something about her. You need to be a man, work full time, keep your job and get more time with those kids, unless you are as immature as I think you are and I do. You should have those kids more. They need a normal exposure. Somehow you did it this 4th of July, now do it more.
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Jon can't just do it more no more than Kate could have the kids more if she wanted it. A judge decides how much custody they will each have. I know for a fact Jon has been trying for years to get the kids more and has been making baby steps with the judge. But he has to go through the court. Also Jon does work full time and has worked full time for years.
Fourth of July wasn't just because Jon asked for them more as Kate likes everyone to think. Lawyers for Jon and Kate would be absolutely out of their minds to allow such a thing in a contentious case like this. It was decided in writing by a judge and I don't believe anything else Kate wants us to.
It's abuse when a spouse moves the spouse/family away from family/friends, only allows control situations. Hopefully kids will see when older and with their Dad's help will be alright and finally have a normal life.
Is there still an ongoing relationship between Kate and Milo, or did Kate cast her aside after having served her purpose as a marathon commentator? Has Paige likewise been shunned? Milo seems to think that Kate is Paige's second mother:
@MiloandJack
@Paige_Kate8fan @Kateplusmy8 Oh my....look out world! Paige has become a young lady! Always make ur parents proud&2nd momma Kate too! :)
I don't think that a professional psyc evaluation is needed in her case. It's simple. She's nuts.
Kate just appears to be ungrateful and delusional about her own importance to the entertainment community. She is just unlikeable in her arrogant behavior. We, who watched for a couple of seasons, saw it very quickly. She wanted more, more, more. We would all have respect for her if she would just quietly get a real job and simply go into the life of former reality show performer. I know that would be considered "mediocre" to Kate, but surely she hasn't spent all their saved up millions and could get by on a regular job. Kate and Jon had the 8 kids so they get to support them in the best way they can. Obviously, you had your chance, and you just couldn't sustain it in show business. No one is beating down the door to give them another show. No interest. Very telling. Looks like the ego is still in the way of common sense.
A fun trip down memory lane on a muggy Sunday.
When Jodi's sister Julie started her blog, she revealed that Jon & Kate were not only quite wealthy, they also had every kind of domestic servant you could imagine. The next day, this rebuttal appeared on their sixgosselins website. The info that Kate insisted was so untrue stayed on Julie's site for quite awhile, until she posted that Jodi requested it be removed. In contrast, the rebuttal calling certian family members liars was gone after a day.
That should have been enough for Kate to realize that you cannot put yourself on display for the world and create a completely false persona. Then call the person who IS telling the truth a liar. There are laws against that, as difficult as this is for someone with her limited comprehension abilites.
To our faithful fans who deserve an answer,
In the recent days, we have been informed there are a lot of lies circulating about us. Just so you know we have worked hard to show you our real life and we have succeeded. Although it is not always easy we will continue to show you the good, the bad and the ugly on our show. Unfortunately, as with anyone who is on TV there are jealous bystanders, family included, who for whatever reason insist upon telling hurtful untruths. We will continue to love these family members. We will not retaliate. We will leave it alone out of respect for them. But as a reminder, nothing that you read on the internet or in print is true unless it is approved by us. Thank you for watching as our family grows and develops. Our children have always been our priority, will continue to be our top priority and quite honestly nothing else matters to us.(This message has been personally written by Jon and Kate Gosselin)
"But as a reminder, nothing that you read on the internet or in print is true unless it is approved by us." WTF! Approved? As in you only approved sticking to the fake script that you were struggling church mice doing it all by yourselves? You disapproved of the fact that your nannies, assistants, landscapers, cleaning people, laundry girls and chef service became public knowledge? Why? Why was it so important that information be witheld from your "reality" (heh heh) show?
Here it is, 4 full years later and she still can't comprehend the fact that she cannot pull off her fake and deceptive facade without people judging her. She can't show her pics of doll sized portions of food and kids sitting on a line on the floor with 27 kernels of popcorn each, without people commenting harshly. She just wants so badly for her word and the image SHE wants to project to be gospel and no one question or challenge her. It's this kind of behavior and blatant mental deficits that often makes me think there is no way she and Skeeve could be a couple. I don't know how any rational human being could deal with that level of crazy without going crazy themselves.
LaLaLandNoMore said... 36
Kate just appears to be ungrateful and delusional about her own importance to the entertainment community. She is just unlikeable in her arrogant behavior. We, who watched for a couple of seasons, saw it very quickly.
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If I've regaled y'all of how I came across J+K, then pardon me, but here it is. I was just channel surfing a few years ago and came across the show and what intrigued me was that I suspected that this family was in the Philadelphia area (J+K's accents). So, I Googled them and sure enough, they're about an hour outside Philly. Anyways, what came up under my search was several boards that discussed them and so I was immediately alerted to the thought that the show was a sham. Yes, even Miss Bulldog belly, innocent, wide-eyed and gospel-quoting Kate was then suspected of lying and grifing.
Moms were commenting, waaaay back then, about how they could never afford to clothe their kids in Gymboree duds, or take them to every zoo and amusement park. So, how did J+K manage it? After all, they claim to be poor and struggling.
Then shortly after, folks were catching on to the product placements such as All State and Juicy Juice.
Of course we had just no idea how J+K were living the high life, were traveling first class, making loads of money, getting free stuff, were catered to in every way, had maids and chefs and the really big point, a 1.2 million dollar home. All while crying poor and holding their hands out, taking money from people who could nary afford to part with the money they handed over. Cash. Cold, hard cash never to be accounted for or taxed.
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Jon, you should do something about her. You need to be a man, work full time, keep your job and get more time with those kids, unless you are as immature as I think you are and I do. You should have those kids more. They need a normal exposure. Somehow you did it this 4th of July, now do it more.
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Jon can't just do it more no more than Kate could have the kids more if she wanted it. A judge decides how much custody they will each have. I know for a fact Jon has been trying for years to get the kids more and has been making baby steps with the judge. But he has to go through the court. Also Jon does work full time and has worked full time for years.
Fourth of July wasn't just because Jon asked for them more as Kate likes everyone to think. Lawyers for Jon and Kate would be absolutely out of their minds to allow such a thing in a contentious case like this. It was decided in writing by a judge and I don't believe anything else Kate wants us to.
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I so agree!! Everything is spelled out in the current custody/visitation orders. Despite all of Katie Irene's attempts to 'gaslight' the kids, her twitter fans, and those of us on the blogs, I think the kids, especially the twins see their mother's disconnect from reality, but all have learned how to pacify her. Jon is doing the best he can with what he currently has with regards to visitation and as time goes on, I believe the kids will begin to go live with him. I also believe he is crazy like a fox to go on record as saying she's a good mother. Because basically she is . . . the kids have food, shelter, etc. BUT her mental health issues will be the deciding factor soon as to whether she keeps custody. As long as she refuses to get a 'normal' job and continue to wish upon a star for a TV career which is not going to happen, downsize, keeps the kids confined in the konpound, spends their money, and continues to tweet her zingers towards Jon, she sinks lower and lower. It takes time for the concept of parental alienation to be accepted by all of the nation's courts. California is ahead of the game at this time. If parental alienation makes it into the 2013 version of the DSM, watch out! I'm also sure Jon or his attorneys are tracking her tweets and actions for future hearings. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the hearing where her tweets from the July 4th holiday(s) are presented.
My heart continues to go out to the kids, but I firmly believe Kate's domination and "no never means no" is coming to an end.
Yes if the APA adopts parental alienation it will be harder for judges in pro mother states to just ignore it or pretend it doesn't exist. Could mean a big change for a lot of mothers and father who are the recipient of such behavior.
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I remember laughing at this the first time I saw it. The first thing I thought was, isn't that what the Nazis said?
Give, it doesn't hurt
Kate think she does no wrong and did no wrong that's probably why she shows them old episodes of J&K+8 & K+8.-(also to slap dad look what he took away)
And sure she could host things on her large property.
But what would it be in for her hanging with hardworking mediocre people?
Kate doesn't hang with that crowd unless she getting paid & publicity.
Unfortunately, as with anyone who is on TV there are jealous bystanders
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Ouch I'm hurt. That must have been before we were dubbed "haterz". Much easier to say than jealous bystanders though.
There are plenty of pleasant and nice people on TV who don't have "haters" or jealous bystanders or anyone setting up blogs to expose them as frauds.
Forcing the kids to watch old "Jon and Kate Plus 8" DVDs is certifiable.
I don't know how any rational human being could deal with that level of crazy without going crazy themselves.
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I don't know, Wayward. They say that there's a lid for every pot. Maybe in their case, it's a perfect fit.
I'm relieved to hear that Kate most likely won't be invited back to DWTS. It sounds like they will be inviting true competitors back to the Allstars version. Thank goodness! I don't think she would have lasted long anyway, but I don't ever want to see her bleached blonde mug on tv again. Even a tiny bit of national exposure would be too much for me.
I agree that she is finally fading away. I don't think she'll ever get anything big again. She will just trot around to these little races and pretend like she is still relevant. Even her Coupon Cabin gig should end soon, I would think. She obviously doesn't write those blogs herself, so why do they need her? It's not like she brings a massive fan base with her.
But, Kate is delusional and I bet in her pea brain that she thinks if she can get thin enough and blonde enough, someone will want her for a tv appearance, show, hosting job, etc. She has not clue of the number of truly talented people out there competing for those jobs. She is a joke.
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Correct me if I'm wrong - didn't Jon and Kate ask for first class airfare when they were doing their sheep fleecing church circuits? If so, she started very early with her primadona
attitude.
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Sometimes I read too fast and at first I thought you said "sheep fleecing circus act". I guess either way works.
Sherry Baby said... 36
Is there still an ongoing relationship between Kate and Milo, or did Kate cast her aside after having served her purpose as a marathon commentator? Has Paige likewise been shunned? Milo seems to think that Kate is Paige's second mother:
@MiloandJack
@Paige_Kate8fan @Kateplusmy8 Oh my....look out world! Paige has become a young lady! Always make ur parents proud&2nd momma Kate too! :)
I don't think that a professional psyc evaluation is needed in her case. It's simple. She's nuts.
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I have really strong hunches about this, and one of them is that a psych eval has already taken place. Several times. Seriously.
kateplusmy8
Honest2God,I just cleaned up THE most horrific thing ever... Shoka vomited a WHOLE rotted animal on2 the basement rug..fur,guts& omg smell!
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Did she really need to share that with the public?
And poor Shoka will probably never get that shrieking sound out of his ears.
The only way the APA will add parental alienation to the final DSM V will be if a drug company has a pill that can "manage it" or if they believe that they can get a ton of business out of it.
The DSM itself came about because psychiatrists needed a way to bill clients based on diagnoses. Those psychiatric diagnoses are based solely on billing (ICD-9 codes to insurers/Medicare/Medicaid/etc.) and whether big pharma can market a pill that makes major $$$ off it.
Remember there are no clinical tests that psychiatrists give to claim a patient has XYZ disorder. The psychiatrists have to talk with patients, and they do NOT do therapy, they are only interested in brain chemistry. And they spend an average of FIVE MINUTES per patient before prescribing drugs. That's all.
So what chemical brain disorder process would bring about parental alienation? It seems like an aggression/depression anger disorder, a symptom of something else, not a standalone diagnoses.
I could write pages and pages about this, it is my other soapbox issue beside nutrition.
heather
P.S. A good informative read: Confessions of an RX Drug Pusher. by Gwen Olsen.
P.P.S. Notice how all drugs now only "manage" symptoms of a disease? If they actually cured the disease itself, well, now, that wouldn't be very good for business would it.
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I enjoyed your post. I do need occasional reminders of how much that woman physically harmed and emotionally battered those LITTLE children for the TeeVee cameras, since TLC was convincing her that this usual behavior of hers was making her a STAH. Lately I have been feeling sorry for her mental illness. Yuck.
But I liked what you said about Kate doing a little something for others, since she doesnt work outside the home and her children are away so often. My area WAS farm and rural until about 20 years ago, but there are still some working farms here. We have one family who has a small roadside stand of fruits and vegetables they grow themselves with a large sign that says "Specials for active and retired military and families". I inquired about it once and the gentleman told me if a customer is military they have a large shoebox and only ask for whatever the customer can pay. The money from that shoebox goes to our local USO which is active in this area. So in other words, the farmer will take nothing for himself from military but whatever they CAN offer is going to another cause anyway.
Much too complicated a system for Kate to manage (I am surprised she can shower herself without step by step instruction) but with all that property she could be growing MUCH fruits and vegetables for her own family and surplus could be going to any number of good causes. Oh wait... that would take WORK, ORGANIZATION, MASTERMINDING and... um... WORK.
I swear Kate thinks Shoka is a cat. I'd be too darn afraid that my dog would become ill from eating dead or just killed prey. It sounds like Shoka puked up something that had been long dead before he ingested it.
I just think she should not own a dog.
For the most part, I've become bored with the Kate story, but every so often something really piques my interest. We've had big dogs for literally decades, including hunting dogs, and we've never had one eat a wild animal. Maybe that's because our dogs have always been well fed.
Now there may be something I don't know here, and speculation can run a little wild regarding Kate at times, but this seems strange to me.
Does anyone else have a dog that does this, or do you think without the kids or maids and nannies there to remind her this week, she forgot to feed him regularly?
Shoka sounds like a dog who is bored and lonely. A dog who is not walked or given much attention. This is when dogs start to roam farther and farther from the house attacking prey looking for things to do. If he were allowed to be around his family he wouldn't have as much interest in that.
Speaking of dogs....we just took a big step. We signed up to be foster parents at a "small dog" rescue! Can't wait. Pending approval. :)
I sure do hope Kate gives Shoka monthly heartworm preventative.
Berks said: "What's really funny is that some friends, who are still without power in the next county, invited us for supper. They are grilling. She said, "Come for corn." She said they have more corn than they know what to do with. I asked her what else they were having. I had to do it. Long pause. "Sliced tomatoes. What else do you want?""
"I had to do it." ~ baaaahhahahhahaaaaa!!! Berks! :)
Is it over here in Lancaster County? We lost power till early this morning. Trees down EVERYWHERE.
I don't believe that tweet. I think she posted it for shock value. Shoka lives within an electric fence- what wild animals would venture in that would make him so sick? The dog rarely comes in anyhow. Is it normal for dogs to vomit their prey? I just have a house dog who lives on kibbles and moist Cesar!
My friend's parents had a dog who would attack cats and eat them but I always also felt that was because he was bored. I have no idea if it's normal. All I can say is most of the dogs I know don't do that. Cats do and it's normal.
Admin said: "Oh Is corn in season already in PA? It was only "knee high by the fourth of july" when I was back East last week but making me itch to get some on the grill ASAP."
I saw some that was almost 5 feet tall a couple weeks ago when I was driving out in the country. We've had a fair amount of rain this spring & early June, so I guess that helped. We got corn from the corn wagon early last week. Silver & Gold. :D
Dwindle 48 and 49- You are on a roll and have me laughing over here. Too funny.
By the way, thinking of changing my name to BuzzKillKate. I have not used that terminology for ages, but it really seems to fit the situation.
I all ways liked Kate and did like Jon especially when they were getting divorced.
I thought aw poor Kate then I watched the today show and she cried poor about the bills.
I disliked Jon even more however when I learned she was lying and how much money she made from her books.
I stopped feeling bad for her I can't an won't feel bad about someone who's a compulsive liar.
So I was a sheep at one time but I've seen the light-(lol)
Right, cats do that with birds and mice etc ?...why would a nursing background prevent her from vomiting at the smell of a dead animal carcass? Says a lot for her patients ! I never smelled such a thing as a nurse although you do have to have a steel stomach at times. I wouldn't be surprised if this is true that Shoka was badly punished :( You're right, Admin- Shoka does not seem to be walked or paid much attention to which is crucial for dogs. Good luck with your new adoptee !
Tucker's Mom #55...I would amost bet she does not use heartworm preventative. (That requires care.) My two dogs were boarded all week due to all my flooring being replaced.
My big dog (black labrador/shar-pei mix) never vomits but has vomitted huge amounts three times today on my new floors. (No, I didn't freak out...just cleaned it up.)
My dogs are always inside except to use the bathroom...my dog vomitted what she ate this morning. Somewhat surprised to think that a domesticated dog that is well fed would be eating live animals. Am I right or wrong?
By the way, my best friend in Tulsa just emailed me that she let her standard poodle out in the backyard to potty; the poodle got ahold of a wounded squirrel and shook it. My friend said it appeared the squirrel's legs were broken, so she took it to a wildlife refuge in another town to be cared for. Waiting to hear back from her after she returns.
Just thinking about the difference between Kate and an animal lover (of all species) like my friend.
It's not normal for family pet/domesticated dogs to hunt, for food. Kate is just totally clueless, about animals(I don't care if she took care of animals as a kid, perhaps Kate never had pets, that lived in the house. Dogs that are raised with people and family, have lost the hunting gene. They only will attack if 1. provoked, 2. hungry. and in some very rare cases boredom. Kate, does not play with the dog, allow the dog in the house most of the time, so the dog feels left out, and will do things to get attention(mine do). The way Kate feeds her kids, I can understand if the dog went looking for food, the garbage can, small rodents, probably was playing with them. My dogs have done that, played with a rat, till they knocked senseless(killed it, did not eat it). They bat it around. Had a previous dog eat a baby bird. Domestic dogs don't exactly hunt, they mostly play with it. If they eat it, it's cause they are hungry. Now kate is ranting and raving about the dog, and cleaning the stuff up. It seems she even took a shower. Drama queen much! Dogs are like kids, you do have to watch them and check them. Apparently, Kate thinks the dog can take care of it's self.
Tucker's Mom said: "I love corn. I eat it for breakfast some days. DH just shakes his head when he sees the cobs in the kitchen! So far this year, the corn has been fantastic and in fact, tonight we're having "Mexican" corn, which is just corn smeared with a mayo mixed with chili, parmesan or cotija cheese, lime, butter. I mean seriously, try it especially on grilled corn with a little char and smoke."
Oh, that sounds wonderful!! We'll have to try it this week!!
"Shoka lives within an electric fence- what wild animals would venture in that would make him so sick?"
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Invisible fence, meaning that outside animals can enter, but the resident house dog wears a collar so that he can't get past the wire that's buried in the ground. Any wild animal, such as a raccoon, possum, rabbits, can easily be on that property.
Once a viewer: Depends on the type of dog. Some dogs do to feed young, it is not a common thing though. The female dog I had years ago, did it for a short while, when my Spike was a puppy, then stopped. but males dogs usually don't, something made him sick.
Admin: good luck with your dog. My neighbor did that, for a couple of months, drove my dogs crazy.
She's insane, saying he has an appointment this week with the vet/groomer. That dog needs to go NOW to the emergency clinic. Kate has no idea if he killed that animal or if it was already dead when he ate it. That animal could have died from poisoning or some disease that can easily be transmitted to the dog. You just don't let something like that go and then take him to the vet/groomer "this week." She probably doesn't want the expense of an extra trip to the vet.
Who knows? Maybe she ignored the poor dog while the kids were away or feeds him portions she thinks are okay, much like she does the kids, and the dog was hungry.
Either way, I'll bet anything, she will pay one of her kids to clean up the mess. We all know how she feels about messes and how well she handles them.
She really needs to get off Twitter, as she is not making herself look very good.
Another Hollywood legend gone-- Ernest Borgnine dead at 95. He was as good as they get.
And Shoka knows he's not allowed to ever give her kisses. Wow. How does he know that, did she whack him on the snout every time he tried it?
I feel sad for those kids, and I feel sad for that poor dog, excluded from his pack and owned by a woman who clearly doesn't even like dogs.
Like many have said here so many times, I wouldn't trust her to care for a potted cactus.
RUN, SHOKA, RUN.
Has anyone seen One Nation Under Dog on HBO?
I could barely watch but I think it's an important documentary.
She doesn't care if Shoka dies, IMO. The dog would not be killing anything to eat if fed and exercised. She has no business keeping that dog. That dog is nothing more than a guard dog for the Gosselin prison.
July 7, 2012 8:51 PM
Sleepless In Seattle said... 155
Anger said:
"I also think Kate is still in love with Jon,"
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Jon seemed to be extremely naive and at loose ends when Jon and Kate meantime, and therefore ripe for the picking. I agree that he was smitten with her. I shudder to think of the kids witnessing the deterioration of the marriage while enjoying the reruns of the exploitation of their childhoods. I wonder what Kate sees when she watches?
Was she ever in love with him? I think she loved his devotion to her.
Actually, this incident with Shoka is karma. No one else deserves that like she does. Welcome to the real world Kate. Poor Shoka. Good on you Kate. Lolololololol!!
Kate, ever the narcissist, just thinks about how Shoka puking up a rotted vermin affects her. She's put out, she has to clean it, it smells, blah blah blah.
Not ONE word of concern for the dog's health. Eh, he's ok. If my dog ingested something so putrid, I'd be watching him like a hawk and vowing to be more protective.
anger issues kate said... 68
Admin: good luck with your dog. My neighbor did that, for a couple of months, drove my dogs crazy.
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That's what I'm worried about the most is he will disrupt the natural order of things around here. :) But life isn't fun without taking risks and jumping in!
Wonder if she under-feeds her shepherd like she does her kids if Shoka is eating decomposing road kill. Serves her right...now she knows the gag reflex we have every time we hear her pump herself up on twitter or talk about how hard her life is! It smells just like regurgitated road kill Kate!
TLC stinks said... 70
She doesn't care if Shoka dies, IMO. The dog would not be killing anything to eat if fed and exercised. She has no business keeping that dog. That dog is nothing more than a guard dog for the Gosselin prison.
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I couldnt agree more. I had a Jack Russell Terrier that caught a mouse in the garage. Terriers were BRED to hunt rodent. And foxes. But as soon as she had it in her teeth, it screeched. Scared my domesticated terrier half to death and she dropped the mouse and looked like "hey, wassa matter little guy?" Of course the mouse ran off and my dog looked confused. LOL!
I have had German Shepherds. I have had Labrador Retrievers. And Rottweilers. There is a REASON a dog would kill and eat an animal: it's hungry and it's aggressive from boredom and lack of a family unit (AKA pack). And what is the dog doing left alone that long without anyone keeping 1/2 an eye on it?
Once again Kate thinks "Dont all dogs do this? Dont all moms do this?" No Kate, once again you have proven something is psychologically wrong with your household.
Isn't she at all worried maybe the animal was rabid or something? Maybe it attacked Shoka. Shoka has rabies shots but not humans. I'd be worried about so many things. I was freaked out when my dog vomited a little after getting into a plant and rushed him to the vet, I can't imagine what I would do if he vomited an entire animal. In addition to no feelings towards humans do narcissist also not feel anything toward animals?
She doesn't seem capable of recognizing when something is not part of the natural order of things and quite possibly should be a real concern. The things she SHOULD freak out over she doesn't. And then stupid shit she does freak out over. She's one odd duck.
Omg. How gross. I
We've been lucky so far- no killings. I hope to God that it never happens.
Maybe our lazy hounds think that with the supermarket nearby, they don't have to go hunting. Mommy takes care of their needs ;o)
I feel terribly sorry for Shoka. As Tucker's Mom said, Kate has no business with a dog or any kind of pet, for that matter.
My 60-pound Black Lab/Shar-Pei often crawls up and sits on my lap (with her legs on the floor) while I'm watching tv, and she gives me doggy kisses all the time. She also sleeps with me every night, along with my two black cats.
I'm as "sanitary" as they come (almost anal about cleanliness)...there's nothing unsanitary about loving pets. That message is for Kate.
Gosselin8ComeFirst said... 60
Dwindle 48 and 49- You are on a roll and have me laughing over here. Too funny.
By the way, thinking of changing my name to BuzzKillKate. I have not used that terminology for ages, but it really seems to fit the situation
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Well, thank you!
If you do change your name, could you sign (as first) with both names so I/we know it's you? I enjoy your posts!
I wonder if Kate will blog about this on CC. Hey folks! Want to save money feeding your dog? Open the door and let 'em loose for a while or, oh, a day and make sure he's good and hungry!!!!!
Fourth of July wasn't just because Jon asked for them more as Kate likes everyone to think.
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Link please?
Admin, my eldest daughter has been fostering for years and she completely enjoys it. She loves knowing she is helping another family get a dog that is right for them and their lifestyle. She fosters from a Basenji Rescue and Transport, comically called BRAT, because of her fondness for the breed.
By coincidence, I discovered that my own vet adopted an elderly Basenji that my daughter had part in transporting from the South to Ohio.Small world! So now my daughter has an Ohio vet on speed dial that has a personal interest in the breed. Makes them both very happy!
I wish you good luck with fostering and hope you find it rewarding.
There is no LINK Jessica nor should there be.
Tucker's Mom said... 71
Another Hollywood legend gone-- Ernest Borgnine dead at 95. He was as good as they get.
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Oh, no! How sad. "A Grandpa for Christmas" is one of my favorite holiday movies.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 82
Isn't she at all worried maybe the animal was rabid or something?
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When we first moved into our current house, my 2 larger dogs got out of the backyard fence. I think they were just itching to run through the trees back there. The found a racoon in a little drainage creek and just were locked in a battle with that varmint, probably for an hour before I finally found them.
They had him cornered in a drain and it a battle to the death! That raccoon held him ground and bobbed, weaved and darted behind logs and rocks. I got one of the dogs away and into my car, but the beardie, well, I needed to call my husband from work to crawl down into the creek and get him out. All the while trying to throw sticks and leaves at the raccoon to get him to "shoo!".
DH found us and got the Beardie and we took them home and gave them baths (there's an idea for the smell, Kate) and first thing the next morning, took them to the vet to get a bolster Rabies shot.
Another time a raccoon got into our fenced yard, my dogs tussled with it and again, back to the vet for a shot.
You just can't blow this stuff off, especially with the reaction Shoka had. I mean, thank goodness he barfed it up, but how many times has that happened outdoors and no one knows?
Carrie Ann Inaba once again, "I've never seen someone with so little awareness".
Rest in Peace, Mr. Borgnine.
A true gentleman, legend, and Hollywood star.
I just adored him in "Marty".
Say hello to Captain Binghamton...
I'm going to share my husband's opinion of Kate. When the episode aired of Jon and Kate bringing Shoka and Nala home, I called my husband into the room so he could see the puppies. At the time, our german shepard was a year old. They are so darn cute as puppies because their ears are wonky, as they are not standing straight up yet. Anyway, Kate was barking at Jon about something. My husband looked right at me and said, "If you ever spoke to me like that, I'd be outta here!" I replied, "And vice versa." Poor Jon. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did. My husband and I have been married 30 years and he still makes me laugh every day. It's called respect, Kate. Oh, and we've had two german shepards and they have never hunted for anything. Poor Shoka.
Just called my vet. For clarity I should say she was our friend for years before she became a vet. I asked her "What would think of a pure bred GSD who runs free alot in a rural area who just vomited in the house what appears to be full remains of some animal including teeth fur etc"?
Just based on what little I told her she says her first thought would be that the German Shepherd was very hungry. She used the word "near starving". If that dog were taken to a vet in Ohio, it would have to be quarantined in Ohio according to law to rule out new exposure to rabies or distemper and any number of parasites that are dangerous to any humans it comes in contact with. The vomited remains of the kill should be turned over to authorities immediately to be tested.
She said a lot of other things, but she did say the dog should be quaratined immediately no matter what state it is in and should be kept away from children or any other household pets until the dog is cleared.
Do you think the animal carcass has had its picture taken, ready to be shared via Twitter?
Kate seemed bent on having her kids' stomach contents filmed, why not Shoka's?
Well fed dogs can kill, but it's usually for protection or for sport. Few dogs with actual owners would feel the need to kill and eat vermin from outside.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 89
There is no LINK Jessica nor should there be.
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If you are going to state something as if it were fact, it is not unreasonable to expect you to be able to back up the claim.
Kate no I don't know the smell you talking about since I love my two dogs.
I don't let them eat dead rotten animals they only eat gasp dog food and dog treats.
And maybe wood when I'm not watching.
If you are going to state something as if it were fact, it is not unreasonable to expect you to be able to back up the claim.
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Everyone is free to make up their minds about whether they believe Kate is lying about Jon's visitation. Everyone is free to believe she is telling the truth, even though her scenario suggests a borderline malpractice arrangement for the attorneys that set it up in a contentious divorce. No one suggested they personally know exactly what goes on.
Tucker's Mom that's a scary story. Are you supposed to get more rabies shots if they tangle with an animal?
Another red flag for me, dealing with my own varmint problem (skunks and a possum and raccoons) is that they almost always come out at night. I've never seen our little residents in the daytime and I was told to WATCH OUT if I do because it's not right.
She tweeted this during the middle of the day. I would be very concerned about a dog tangling with an animal in broad daylight, makes me even more concerned about possible rabies.
I had never heard of a dog killing the way Shoka does. It just doesn't seem normal. I googled it and here are a few excerpts from articles about this situation.
"When people are unable, unwilling or unaware of how to manage their dogs, kills to other animals become all too common. Understanding how it happens will help you avoid the problem with your dog."
"Many dogs who kill have a history of too little activity with their owners."
"Many animal-killing dogs are leader types who boss their caregivers and have taken over the house and yard".
"When dogs do not kill, it’s due to human management. Without humans, dogs would have to kill to survive. Dogs are not vegetarians."
"It’s not useful or helpful to attach blame when a dog kills another animal. Realistically, the dog’s owner is the only one in a position to control the dog so killing doesn’t happen. If the dog is yours, responsibility for the kill will be yours as well. Know the breed tendencies and observe your dog’s behavior for early warning signs of this risk."
Kate - You can't just banish Shoka from the house, you need to watch him carefully. You need to see if he's also got diarrhea and if so you need to make sure that he stays hydrated. Something like this isn't just a "cute" twit episode so that you can show your minions what a god dog mom you are by cleaning it up.
Two Sundays ago our bully was sicker than we've ever seen him. He'd been at "day camp" the previous Friday and we didn't know if he'd picked something up there. We had him to the vet the first thing Monday morning and had all the tests run to make sure he was OK. Two days and $300 later it seems he only had a tummy ache. He was a little dehydrated so they treated that (under the skin hydration) and gave him some diarrhea pills (thank God it wasn't a liquid). We still don't know what caused it. The heat? Possibly. We're now thinking that it may have been some chicken dog treats that we gave him. Not wanting to take any chances we threw them out on the off chance that they were made in China. Now I will only buy him treats if they're made in the USA. He's fine now and the expense was worth it to us because we don't just say that he's a member of the family like you do Kate, we mean it and take care of him as such. Wll you be sleeping on the couch tonit so that you can keep an eye on him Kate? Of course not. You banished the kids to the laundry room floor so I'm sure that poor Shoka is banned to his outside kennel.
Are you going to sleep on the couch so that you can keep an eye on him Kate?
I'm a little horrified. Shouldn't she preserve the vomitus and call the emergency vet for an opinion asap? There's something wrong if the household dog is eating whole animals!
What if the dead animal was poisoned? Or had rabies?
Kate's episode ideas are the WORST. They seem to always involve a child or animal getting hurt somehow, physically or emotionally. She really is helpless without a production team to make up the episodes for her.
Admin: Funny thing is, my neighbors, got attached to the dog, and almost kept it, but their yard is, about the size of a 2 car garage and this dog would grow to be a big dog. I have 2 medium size mutts. My dogs like to bark at anything that comes too close to the fence. Especially, other dogs, critters, and humans. They are too funny.
As for Kate saying dog is ok! I would have called the Vet or the ER clinic or taken the dog there. That whatever it was might have rabies, poison, a host of other things. My Rosie, when she was 2, ate one of my plants a pothos climber and toss it up, but kept tossing up, put her in the car and to the Pet ER clinic. She was ok after 2 hours, had to be fed special food, for 4 days, to settle her stomach. Pothos plants are poisonous
kate has no love for that dog or her kids, only herself.
Just like the chicken that got pecked, Kate told the crew guy to take care of it. And Kate is a nurse? What kind of nurse, bedpan changer!
"Many dogs who kill have a history of too little activity with their owners."
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Big surprise there.
If a dog is killing small animals I would start worrying if it's going to graduate to even bigger animals or even people.
I like that old saying there are no bad dogs just bad owners.
Kate's Twitter reply to Hollybm78 lol. As the mom saying goes 'if I didn't do it, who was going to??' about an hour ago
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TLC? Steve, Jon, Jamie, nanny, kids, neighbor, anyone but you.
I obviously know TLC is not involved, but there have been so many people who have cleaned up how many of the "messes" over the years, that her saying this is laughable. I am not buying she is suddenly "Can Do Kate."
She probably called that poor local neighbor or the local "clean up the mess boy" and is trying to claim credit, as usual, all while shrieking like a lunatic, as usual. She never should have had a dog, let alone kids, as she had no interest in a pet, and brought poor Shoka back for ratings(Super Mom).
Once again, she probably paid very little attention to the dog while the kids were away, feeding him here and there, so it is no shock the dog did this while the kids were away. Yet they have to once again, come home to her crazy antics. This is not entertaining on twitter, it is pathetic. And she should be ashamed that she ever posted it.
More histrionics from Ms. NPD. She is Captain Obvious and she did not clean up the mess. Some poor kid probably let the dog in the house by accident, and is taking a huge heap of wrath from Mommy Dearest.
Dwindle said... 95
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Wow, thank you for delving into the issue. It just starts to make my blood boil when time and again, Shoka displays disconcerting behaviors and Kate acts like there's nothing wrong.
With long haired dogs, it's tough to tell their weight just by looking. I sure hope she feeds him enough.
Speaking of which, I shared corn on the cob with 2 of my dogs tonight at dinner. It's so funny watching their faces. Their eyes get huge as they focus on the cob.
Jessica said... 88
Fourth of July wasn't just because Jon asked for them more as Kate likes everyone to think.
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Link please?
July 8, 2012 3:35 PM
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 89
There is no LINK Jessica nor should there be
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In PA, are court ordered visitation schedules available online to be linked to? I know lots of stuff is online, but it seems a horrible invasion of anyone's privacy if visitation and custody orders are available.
A link to a gossip rag with an 'unnamed source' wouldnt matter at all...
I know at one point a while ago we agreed we were going to stop prefacing everything with "in my opinion"... should we go back to that? Just so we can be clear on what we mean?
We post here with passion oftentimes, and I would hate for anyone to think you are allowing anonymous 'insider stories', because you do NOT allow that.
Our dogs are up to date with all shots, but our vet said a booster was in order, especially since my Beardie got scratched by the raccoon.
We know how she likes to exaggerate, but if what she has said about Shoka is accurate, she needs to get him to the vet now. I'd like to think if this happened to my dog my first concern would be him. Yes, there must have been a smelly mess but that would be my second concern.
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Yes Dwindle, "in my opinion" is not necessary for every little thing. It's obvious when someone is spouting off about Kate being a liar, it's your opinion, lol. It's also obvious that there custody schedule is not available publicly and shouldn't be. So if someone is talking about custody it's obvious it's their opinion. I don't think anyone here is stupid enough to think that every opinion stated here must be the gospel truth or you cannot say it. It's an opinion that may or may not be true, often based on experience, background, history repeating itself, and simple common sense.
I also firmly believe those trying to stir the pot full well know this, but like to just stir the pot for the sake of stirring the pot.
Yes, there must have been a smelly mess but that would be my second concern.
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My Beardie had giardia once. I think he got it from the "daycare" pool. DH like to refer to the "ass explosion" incident! Beardie got a frightened, kind of desperation look on his face (I think he just knew he was going do something bad and have an accident inside) and ran off into our guest bedroom where I swear I heard his butt explode and I knew it wasn't going to be pretty. What I heard was the his letting go of the gas that built up in his belly and the poop was wall to wall!!
One of us got the carpet cleaner out and one took the dog to the vet. No complaining, just did it.
And, no more swimming in dirty water.
Kate's life must be getting more and more mediocre when the only thing she has to tweet about is Shoka getting sick. Of course, it's not about Shoka-it's all about the mess she had to clean up.
And I agree with everyone else-she should either call her vet or take the dog now to be checked.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
I'm traumatized&can't get the smell2leave the basement.Rotted death smell is hanging...Surprisingly,I didn't vomit2 (thx 2 nur background?)
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Also what kind of patient did she deal with if she can stand horrific vomit.
I thought she said she worked in labor and delivery.
Do babies and mom's have horrific vomit or am I missing something?
I forgot to add earlier - I hope the children don't get blamed for this.
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Now knowing what the law says in my state, and why, it is upsetting that the children are being exposed to any number of diseases and parasites because their gestational carrier is #toobusyandexhausted to see that the family pet is medically managed after this incident. Also, that he has likely be locked out doors to be in intestinal pain, and to be left alone with his diseases and internal parasites.
What an inconvenience for a stay at home with nothing much to do except mastermind the hired help and keep repeating "go to the basement NOW!" to her children. Poor thing.
Anyone get the feeling that there will be a new Shoka's Diary entry tomorrow?
I just watched a piece on Dateline about Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Yikes! One point I found REALLY creepy is that a former insider in the "church" said there was a concerted effort to find a wife for Tom. After going through the list of Scientologist singles, they had to go to the outside world. One quote Katie made in a magazine caused them to key in on her. She said something about having a teenage crush on Tom and a poster of him on her wall. Can you imagine saying in an interview that you had a crush on Mr.X, and lo and behold Mr.X comes knocking at your door? I would find that very strange. Maybe if Khate puts something out there she could be the next Mrs. Cruise and live the movie star lifestyle with money to burn. I understand Tom isn't around much because his career comes first, so it's not like she'd have to deal with an icky guy too much. No, really. I wouldn't wish that whackadoodle on her or especially on her kids! God forbid. They have enough to deal with just living with Khate.
If we didn't know it before, we know it now...sheeple are sick creatures with twisted sense of humors.
XXX@Kateplusmy8 I just read all your tweets about Shoka. I laughed so hard, especially when you said Shoka's not allowed to give you kisses.
XXX@Kateplusmy8 @TrippenIn My brother laughed too when I told him what Kate tweeted: fur, blood & guts. I can your face now!! LOL
Maybe shoka did it on purpose JUST so he could come in and sleep on the laundry room floor...maybe she could put that in the shoka diary..."so I found out that my warden will let you lay on the floor with a blanket if you vomit so I went out and ate the nastiest rodent I could find and left it at her feet hoping she would let me in just for a little bit"....yeah ,,,she should be a dog owner about as much as she should be a mother!
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XXXNo. They are fakers. None of my kids have twitter or Facebook and they aren't on the Internet at all except for school!
Does Kate know, or suspect who most likely was the creator of the fake Cara Twitter and Formspring accounts? I think the sleuths here pretty much had the mystery solved.
She clearly has the kids tonight! She's twattering up a storm!
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Just called my vet. For clarity I should say she was our friend for years before she became a vet. I asked her "What would think of a pure bred GSD who runs free alot in a rural area who just vomited in the house what appears to be full remains of some animal including teeth fur etc"?
Just based on what little I told her she says her first thought would be that the German Shepherd was very hungry.
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Dwindle, hunger was my very first thought when I read about Kate's newest twittersode.
My dog and her buddy (who is now over the Rainbow Bridge) have killed a few small varmints in their younger days. Thankfully, we've had no "gifts" in the last 6 or 7 years. The toll is two pet hamsters who had escaped from their cages, a couple birds and a baby bunny :( They never ATE any of them. It was more of a "look what I caught for you mommy!" type of thing. They were so proud, one time one of them dropped the bird by Hubby's face while he was napping on the couch. He just didn't find it as funny as we did, lol!
When I read that poor Shoka ATE a dead, smelly decaying thing, I immediately thought he had to have been starved to do such a thing. A smelly dead thing is something tantalizing for a dog to sniff at, but they are not prone to ingesting it. I agree with everyone else, he needs to be seen by a vet ASAP. I don't know much about GSDs, but what I do know from the couple friends I have that own them, they have very sensitive tummies. A small amount of something that doesn't agree with them can bring on days of the runs. Do the right thing Kate, please.
All I can say is you can sure tell when the kids get home because she's back on twitter like crazy.
@crazymom28 ya know, today's events made me question my pet decision for the first time in his 4 years :( 5 minutes ago
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Un Effing Believable. It's Kate's fault that this dog goes outside for untold periods of time. She knows he hunts! He could get very ill from ingesting the animal! Yet, poor Kate, her carpet smells so the dog must go.
I hope that some way, that stupid, ignorant backyard breeder gets wind of this tweet and incident and kicks his own ass for giving back a dog that KATE CLEARLY DID NOT WANT in the first place.
So no, Kate, it's not been 4 years, it's been more like 1 since you USED THIS INNOCENT ANIMAL for ratings on your show to rehab your shitty image and turn it into your self-proclaimed "Mom of the year".
Now I'm going to be sick...
Tweeting now about a party of treats for the ONE child who is getting braces tomorrow!! What about Shoka? Banished outside? I can tell how many of us here are animal lovers.That poor dog.
Wasn't Kate claiming that most of them need braces ASAP?
Wowser said... 118
She clearly has the kids tonight! She's twattering up a storm!
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just a mom and grandma said... 119
All I can say is you can sure tell when the kids get home because she's back on twitter like crazy.
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She is nothing if not predictable. No kids for several days and barely a peep from her. Kids are back and she's producing full-scale twattersodes and bantering with the sheeple she's ignored for the last 3 or 4 days.
Just as she sticks her phone on her head and pretends she's talking to ward off other humans while she's out running errands, she immediately begins twattering when the kids are around to avoid interaction with them. She has a crystal clear pattern of doing this and no amount of sheeple spinning or excuses can deny it.
Shoka might kill because she is hungry. We can see how little the kids get. Why would Kate be more generous with a dog?
Tucker's Mom said... 78
Kate, ever the narcissist, just thinks about how Shoka puking up a rotted vermin affects her. She's put out, she has to clean it, it smells, blah blah blah.
Not ONE word of concern for the dog's health. Eh, he's ok. If my dog ingested something so putrid, I'd be watching him like a hawk and vowing to be more protective.
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EXACTLY!! It's about her again. I wouldn't be spitting mad right now if she had said 'just got back from an emergency run to the vet....'
Bitch!!
So today is the first time she questioned her pet decision? I guess she didn't give it a second thought when she sent them back to the breeder or when she decided to only bring one back. I question many of her decisions, almost all of her pet decisions. Good grief, this whole "episode" gives me shivers.
Admin, bless your fostering little heart! Good luck with the little ones who desperately need your TLC (the good TLC, not the crappy tv kind).
The foster place just called they can have a little guy for us by WEDNESDAY. Yikes I thought it would take at least a few weeks. Here I go!
Why do all the sheeple need to know who is getting braces? The moment Kate put it out there that one is getting braces tomorrow, the tweets started coming fast and furious from people wanting to know who it was. They feel like they're entitled to know that information. It's really quite sad.
I wonder if when the kids were vomiting on the laundry room floor she questioned her high order multiples decision.
If they're having a big pre braces party I'm guessing it's a girl who's getting them. But I hope she doesn't say. Let's hope she doesn't.
Only for the very strongest of stomach. Milo is defending Kate having a tantrum and pulling eight children who were learning and having fun away from a once & a lifetime experience.
Fired Up 4 Kate@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 U KNOW ur kids best..when U made decision 2pack up & call it a day..was N their best interests..obvious was the rt decision! :)
Really? Really? That was the "right decision" when Eileen O'Neill said in an interview with the New York Times "I'm still paying for that trip" in reference to Kate's bratty and childish behavior with the Palins.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/02/business/media/for-a-tlc-spokeswoman-no-comment-is-an-art.html?pagewanted=all
Another sheeple said earlier about the Alaska trip that it was a shame TLC choose to show 10 minutes of footage where Kate was stressed and confused, leaving all the happy footage on the cutting romm floor. Excuse me while I hurl.
I'll bet Kate is rationing poor Shoka's food. As always with this monster, it's about spending as little money as possible for her kids and the dog's needs, so it's easy to assume he's not getting his required amount to stay full & satisfied. It is unlikely a dog would ingest a dead rotted carcass of an animal if he was getting his nutrional requirements met. And why is she seemingly so giddy over this event that she can't stop tweeting about it?
ya know, today's events made me question my pet decision for the first time in his 4 years :( 40 minutes ago
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THERE we go! She brought the dog back for an episode, to try to rehab her Queen Bitch image, but this is way too much bother. FINALLY a real good excuse to get rid of the dog - again. She is #muchtoobusyandexhausted to mastermind a dog!
He isnt bringing in any money or positive attention, he has outweighed his usefullness so OUT you go and the sooner the better! Pay for quarantine? Not on your life!
I seriously want to know why it was in the children's "best interest" to leave such a great experience like that early. Because of a little rain??? It stopped raining!
Kate's entire rant had nothing to do with concerns about the kids' best interest. It was all about her own personal comfort level and happiness. Never once did she say I'm worried the children are cold and wet. No, SHE was cold and wet! Never once did she say I'm worried the kids aren't getting proper nutrition. The kids were eating fine, she was the one who wouldn't eat the good food provided.
She herself wanted to leave and she for whatever reason wouldn't leave the kids there when she left, that's the only reason they had to come with her.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 129
I wonder if when the kids were vomiting on the laundry room floor she questioned her high order multiples decision.
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Of COURSE she did, but then again that is what Jon and the other nannies were for. The difference is: Shoka isnt making her any money.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 127
The foster place just called they can have a little guy for us by WEDNESDAY. Yikes I thought it would take at least a few weeks. Here I go!
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You can do this! Your little man will need reassurances and patience, which you seem to have plenty of. I vote for crating, the enclosed plastic ones (AKA approved of course) make them feel more den-like and safer than the open wire ones. At any rate, please keep us posted on as many details and you wish. Blurring his face would be acceptable. Hehe.
German Shepherds are traditionally not "hunting" dogs, they are herding dogs. They also say once a dog gets a taste of blood
they will always want more. The way she talks he is out not just hunting, but killing, all the time. I never heard of that before with a German Shepherd. They are usually more on guard patroling the premises and protecting their owners, not out in the woods hunting and killing and eating their prey. I love to watch the German Shepherds across street patrol the fence line all the time. They have a pair and they are constantly on guard. They would never let themselves be distracted that way, or leave their post.
I kind of think she put up a stink and left because she was intimidated by SP. Kate is clueless about politics and feared the inevitable chit-chat around the evening campfire.
I do think she was intimidated by Sarah Palin but not because of the politics because Sarah Palin was better with her kids than she is. The kids loved being with her and learning from her and the rest of the Palins way more than they wanted to wallow with Kate. She can't stand not having complete control of her spawn.
..Eating r 'braces on' party foods and&watching a movie produced by 'Madelyn Gosselin Productions'& then a 'Jon&Kate+8' season 4 ep..no lie! 6 minutes ago
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They're watching ANOTHER episode of Jon and Kate???? What the heck, they just watched the Alaska episode and that's an hour long!
I don't normally care much what kids watch on TV but this is ridiculous, give them some normal age appropriate tv programming, there's so much out there. Heck they might even enjoy Next Foodnetwork Star.
People.People. Really. Did you think she would take the dog to the vet? She doesn't take her kids to the doctor. Remember when one of the big girls was complaining about her leg or something and she let it go for days? Jon ended up taking her to the doctors. How many times have we seen Jon having to take one of them to the doctor when he gets them. You know they were sick when Kate had them but didn't bother taking them. So no she won't take the dog to the vet. And why does she always say she is taking the dog to the vet/groomer. Is it really a vet or just the groomer? She lies so much I don't know when to believe her.
Kate is a twit said... 130
Why do all the sheeple need to know who is getting braces? The moment Kate put it out there that one is getting braces tomorrow, the tweets started coming fast and furious from people wanting to know who it was. They feel like they're entitled to know that information. It's really quite sad.
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Well how about the sheeple post public pictures of their OWN impaired dentition with their names and addresses?
What gives anyone the right to demand information like this on someone else? This is a trying thing for a kid to go through, it's umcomfortable and embarrasing enough without your mother publishing the information on the internet.
I always assumed that's why German Shepherds have so often been used by police because they can intimidate but they won't actually hurt you unless they really really have to. I also had a blind neighbor once who had a German Shepherd guide dog.
Definitely that too Admin. But if you look at her body language from the minute they walked into Sarah's house you could tell she was very uncomfortable being around a woman who, regardless of what anyone's opinion of her is, made a name for herself in politics. And then there's Kate, the Griftarian. She wouldn't have been able to have an intelligent conversation with Sarah if her life depended on it.
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Aw... Poor Shoka.
Everybody & everything is dispensable to Kate.
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@RachelFradgley @Kateplusmy8 Kate hasn't taken the kids anywhere since the show was cancelled & TLC stopped paying for it. Keeps them home
Didn't Kate take the kids with her (and Steve) To Connecticut?
Vomiting is not that big of a deal and is what you sign up for when you have a baby, a dog or a cat.
If one episode of bad vomiting makes you question whether you want a dog, (or child or pet) you're in the wrong business.
Tucker! Beardies owners on the blog unite! I have had five of them,, and what a fantastic breed. They are so wonderful with children, patient kind, gentle. I just love them. The grooming, not so much!
They haven't had that dog for 4 years have they? I thought it was in 2009 and then not for long. Has she had the dog back for more than a year? Maybe I am wrong.
I think she is also going to wait until the braces are on and then have a twittersode of the unveiling. There will pictures then I am sure.
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Oh it did did it? You witch. Shoka didn't even have a say 4 years ago.
They got the dogs for Christmas in 2008, right after they moved to the new house. They were returned to the breeder in September 2009 and then Kate brought Shoka back in October 2010.
Shoka's not even 4 years old yet.
Is kate tryin to brainwash the kids, so that when an oppertune event comes, and it requires the kids to be in it or on TV, the kids will beg Jon and the judge to let them do it. Kate's brainwashing school: make the kids remember and then, brainwash them to keep wanting to be back on TV, by making them watch themselves, and remind them how wonderful, and how many trips they went on, etc. JUST SICK!
Sorry people, when I was the K8 kids ages, the last thing I wanted to see was pics of myself, and in their case, watch myself on film. I would rather watch something educational like: Animal planet, Disney or ABC Family.
As I said previously: Kate really can't let go of the past! She is obsessed. or is Kate headed for a break-down?
Admin, best of luck with the fostering! Keep us updated :)
I am a dog lover myself. My mom never cared for them too much, so we never had them when I was growing up, but I am getting ready to move into my own apt and the first thing I am going to do? Look into adopting a dog! Does anyone have any breed recommendations, dogs that may be good for apartment living (small to medium in size, doesn't require a ton of indoor space)? I know a fair amount about different breeds and have done some research, but I feel it's best to hear from personal experiences of others.
Geez, haven't been here in ages and the wicked witch is STILL around?!?
- if Shoka is sick , shouldn't K8 just put him in the laundry room like she did Joel ?
- I cannot stand SP but will admit that she seemed pretty cool and very gracious with K8 and kids. Loved when SP's dad said that K8 "bitched and moaned from the time she got off the plane". All you need to know right there.
- Mexican corn sounds delish.
That's all, peace !
Admin, good luck with your first foster! With 3 here, I don't think we could handle any more, but we sure do try to help in other ways and give the dogs we do own all of our hearts, and everything they need and more.
Please keep us up to date on your foster!
Twittering And Twattering said... 149
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@RachelFradgley @Kateplusmy8 Kate hasn't taken the kids anywhere since the show was cancelled & TLC stopped paying for it. Keeps them home
Didn't Kate take the kids with her (and Steve) To Connecticut?
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Yes but they were running in the kids marathon along side mommy and the bodyguard.
So not much of a vacation for the kids.
I'm waiting for some more sheeple to turn. It's funny, but people can ignore mistreated kids, but do something to a dog and they go nuts. I think she's really going to piss a lot of people off with her uncaring attitude towards Shoka. Poor thing. I can't imagine any dog eating a dead animal (or killing and eating one). It's just weird and I really hope she's making it up. And who says "no lie" after a statement. Someone who is telling a lie, that's who.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Wow. We all agreed: we miss our show&the adventures and huge opportunities to help and entertain :)others! Why am I watching and crying??!:)
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Ugh she's at it again.
Admin - good luck with the fostering. I can't wait to hear how it goes. I highly recommend a free-standing gate. I wish I could remember where I ordered mine. It is wood with black metal rails, and it expands to a nice big width. I love that we can just move it to where we need it without damaging any walls. It was around $100, but if you decide to continue fostering it might be worth the investment.
Opportunities to help WHO? There were like two episodes about volunteer work out of the 150.
You can't go to a food bank or hospital and volunteer without a TV show?
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Is kate tryin to brainwash the kids, so that when an oppertune event comes, and it requires the kids to be in it or on TV, the kids will beg Jon and the judge to let them do it. Kate's brainwashing school: make the kids remember and then, brainwash them to keep wanting to be back on TV, by making them watch themselves, and remind them how wonderful, and how many trips they went on, etc. JUST SICK!
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I'm not sure she devise a plan like that. I think she's affected with the Norma Desmond Syndrome and she's dragging her kids into it. There's also a great Twilight Zone episode, "The Sixteen-Millimeter Shrine” that stars Ida Lupino as the has-been actress and Martin Balsam as her agent.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 164
You can't go to a food bank or hospital and volunteer without a TV show?
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Are we talking about Kate Gosselin?-lol
Working Woman: first, make sure, where ever you are going to live, especially Apt, allows pets. You may be charged extra for a pet. If it is your own home, not a rental, go for it. A rental home is on the same basis as an apt. Next, beaware that little dogs, are yappers. And what ever you do, PLEASE get your dog trained. At these training schools, you can ask questions, about chewing, barking, housebreaking, Vet, shots, food, though a lot of the mentioned, will be explained to you where ever you get your pet/dog from.
PLEASE, ADOPT A SHELTER DOG/CAT.
They come in all ages. Puppys to older well trained dogs. Go to some of the blogs and find out what type of dogs fit for an apt. Large dogs would not be a good idea. Medium to small. Medium would be knee high. Also, do you have allergies?, how much are you willing to spend? There are a lot of things to consider. My vet bill for vacinaions for 2 dogs ran $400 a year, that included rabies, prov, lym, and something else, plus a check-up, which they draw blood, for heartworm and other things. And Heartworm pills. Then there is dog food, puppy food if puppy, dog school if puppy, toys, treats. And a whole host of other things. And yes they are part of the family, you will think of them as little kids. Cause in a way they are. I don't want to discourge you, from getting a dog/cat, but there is as I said, a lot to consider, remember this is a living, breathing creature, not something you can throw away when tired of it. It's a commitment of 10 to 18 years, depending on breed, or mutt.
What they give me, something to take care of, other than myself. Something to worry about, love, talk to, play with, chill with, laugh at etc. I have no kids, both my parents are gone. They keep me from falling down the whole.
Besides my 2 dogs, I have: 4 birds and 11 baby guppies. It's a lot to think about.
Even if you do miss your show, even if you do cry, it's just not HEALTHY Kate to constantly put the kids through that.
Move on! We're coming up on a year since it's been cancelled. The kids need to develop interests in the moment, school, sports, scouts, church, friends. Forever re-living a reality show that forever more is gone isn't good for them.
Kate? This is part of being in the business. Projects come and go. You take part in a project, it finishes up its course however long that may be, and you appreciate the time you had and move on to the next thing. If you dwell like this forever you'll go nuts.
They picked out a toy fox terrier podengo mix for me, cute as a button, little girl. Eight pounds. Any fox terrier owners out there?
Why are you watching and crying? Because you are crazy, crazy, lady. And your kids are watching WAY too many episodes of your obsession with the past. These are NOT home movies; this a calculated maneuver to keep the kids living in a warped fantasy of what that mother person considers the life that was ripped away. This is NOT a healthy way to spend weeks of summer vacation. Guess she and the wine boxes were watching and crying together throughout her lonely holiday. Sad and pathetic.
As for the poor dog, that is a scary story and honestly I wish her local SPCA could be told. Dog should be seen by a vet first thing tomorrow. But instead Queen Biotch is rethinking her pet decision. You know, she should and maybe that dog could find a real home, not the neglected environmnt he lives in now. She disgusts me.
Khate mentioned the St. Jude's episode...I remember that one as a changing point for the show. She had on dressy clothing, heels, had lost a few pounds (or started working out). The show was more about her, wasn't it? She was giving out copies of Multiple Blessings (who in a children's cancer ward would want that??) and "A Tale of Despereaux" (which I found odd, I had never seen her or Jon read to any of their own children until it was product placement).
Did it also include her shouting at Jon in ToysRUs?
Shoka, sorry you are sick!
Regarding parental alienation...
My experience is that parentification of children goes hand in hand with parental alienation because the singular act of inappropriate disclosures about a child's father violates the parent-child relationship and flips the child into a care taking role. I believe that this happens regardless of the age of the child, even into adulthood.
I met my husband (24 years old) in the aftermath of a nasty separation that occurred while his mother was in the terminal stages of cancer. Witnessing the horrific events and intimate disclosures by their parents was extremely traumatic for my DH and his 2 brothers. My DH to felt that his entire childhood had been erased--that his memories were somehow no longer authentic-- and destroyed the relationships between the 3 brothers.
I have seen this repeated with friends that have had acrimonious divorces, in which one or both parents have attempted to validate themselves by bashing (and alienating) the other.
Those little tidbits that so casually roll of of Kate's tongue, violate the parent-child relationship by flipping the children into the role of caretakers. If it wasn't so damn tragic, it would be hilarious--the highest maintenance bitch attempting to paint herself as the picture of self-sufficiency. Who in Kate's life has she mot tried to turn into a caretaker?
So, just to be clear, it is just my opinion that parental alienation is a form of parentification because it includes disclosures of information that violate the parent-child relationship--no matter the age. No child needs to hear the kinds of statements that Kate so casually tosses off. It is also my opinion that this has the effect of calling into question, in the kids'minds, the authenticity of their own childhood memories. How much more confusing and damaging will it be for the kids to watch their parents marriage disintegrate before their very eyes, while seeing that so many ' memories ' were either fake, engineered or rewritten by their succubus mother?
Kate's tweet: We are watching the St Jude's episode... I am crying... Happy and sad tears.. Old episodes of Jon&Kate+8 warms our hearts.
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I'd cry, too, if I watched myself being a total snot to a kind gal who was taking me into the facility. I'd cry, too, if I saw myself bragging to these sick kids that I was a nurse. I'd cry, too when I saw that I was taking the focus away from these patients, lamenting about how I laid on bedrest for twelve months, like I knew exactly what young cancer patents go through.
Me, Me, Me.
Admin you said it was only your opinion about Jon having more time with the kids specificaly this holiday week/weekend, but in reading your entire post you are stating it as if it is indeed fact and you know it it to be such.
Maybe you should be sure to word your sentences in such a way that there is no doubt that you are not trying to make us think you know more than you do.
Lilly,
Funny you should mention blueberries ( bleuts) in french. My family is from Lac-St-Jean, Quebec..we are known as "bleutsI always picked mine...% houses left from granparents and half-way up the mountain. Lol, thanks for the reminder.
Two things: you must try blieberry wine, but remember it is as potent as scotch, and smurfs are blue for a readon lol
Oh, Kate please. Give it a rest already will you? Couple things here.
You say that what you filmed was real life, well, I'm sorry if it was true than you should have long ago been able to move on and continue living regrdless of the cameras, show, adventures or whatever. Just because the cameras are gone does not mean your life adventures have to suddenly end.
I honestly she makes it seem...like so many 20-somethings, about my age who want only to relive their senior high school year because they were popular, had all the attention. Kate is no different. She wants to continue to relive her time in the sun.
While for myself, I might be in my 20's but there is not a chance I would ever want to relive my teenage years not hardly.
Kate, you could make moving on a more positive experience I guess but all your Tweets suggest that you are allowing yourself and showing your children how to wallow in self-pity just because you no longer have people walking behind you and cleaning up after you.
You are crying because you did not ever think that life would end. If you were such a positive person...you really would not need to dwell on the negative aspects of missing "our show," over and over again.
I wish somebody would tell you to act like a freaking adult. You really are puting your age group of 30-something women to shame. I shudder to think at 40 she will be no different.
She should maybe focus on new memories and adventures instead of the old ones. I mean, how many times can she and her kids watch old episodes before they get boring? I got bored way back and I've never seen an episode a second time.
But...I guess pity is as pity does.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Wow. We all agreed: we miss our show&the adventures and huge opportunities to help and entertain :)others! Why am I watching and crying??!:)
I cannot believe she's sitting around watching her old tv show and crying because she misses it! This is just a testament to how empty and boring her current life is. It's really, truly all she had. They made the show look like the camera was just following her around as she went about her life. The reality is, the show WAS her life. It gave her life meaning, and it made her feel important, like she was SOMEBODY. It's so pathetic to see how she was sucked into the illusion that being on tv would provide her with fame,fortune, and a fabulous life. Now, finally, reality is starting to sink in. That Next Big Thing that she said just "had" to happen? Well, it isn't happening. And those children are left with a mom who is sad and unfulfilled. A normal mom might get teary watching her kids on video because she remembers with tenderness how little they once were and how they're growing up faster than she'd like them to. Not Kate - she gets teary because she misses being on tv "helping and entertaining others." Yeah - you helped me Kate. You helped me see the dangers of being nasty and greedy. I wouldn't trade my quiet, mediocre life with my loving husband,beautiful children, and four-legged friends for even a minute of your life.
Reading comprehension. I said I know for a fact that Jon has been fighting to get the kids more and has made progress. Other insiders here have also said as such. I never said I know for a fact when, how or who Jon has the kids including July 4th. However, no one is required to believe what I or anyone else says, including you, so no worries! I don't PERSONALLY know and I made that very clear. No one else seems to be as confused as you are. :) Anyway I don't think you're confused I think you're hellbent on trying to derail the blog.
admin (169) -- "you appreciate the time you had and move on to the next thing. If you dwell like this forever you'll go nuts."
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I think it's a little bit too late for any kind of preventative for going nuts. She's already there.
Why doesn't she give Shoka to Jon? He obviously loved the dogs and the kids could still see Shoka when he has visitation. I know, I know. Stupid question.
My younger daughter has a female black lab. Once in a while she gets loose. When they finally find her, she always has a bloated stomach because she eats anything she finds. She gets fed properly and receives a ton of love and attention. They've had blood work done to make sure she doesn't have something that causes her to pig out like that, but she's fine. She's just a scavenger. She hasn't vomitted anything up though so that's good.
On a sadder note, my older daughter just had to put her not quite four year old Boston Terrier down. Over Memorial Day weekend, he wasn't feeling well or eating so she took him to a 24 hour emergency clinic. They did x-rays and blood work. Everything turned up fine but she followed up the following week with her vet because he still wasn't doing well. And he was losing weight. The vet went over with her some things that could be wrong, what to look out for and told her to see if he would eat some soft food. So she bought some baby food and made some homemade pureed food. He did eat some of that but by the following week he still wasn't doing well. Back to the vet she went for more x-rays and blood work. His x-ray showed that there was a foreign object in his body and it had perforated his bowel. Because she is a nurse at a hospital in Boston, she knows the type of damage this can cause whether it is in a person or an animal. The vet did not hold out much hope because he was in such bad shape she did not think he would survive the surgery. Because my daughter has seen what a person goes through after this type of surgery, she could not imagine putting her dog through that. So she took her emotions out of it, thought like a nurse and made the agonizing decision to put him down. She and her boyfriend then buried him in their backyard. My husband and I cried right along with her. She dropped over $2000 in the space of 2 1/2 weeks and didn't bat an eye about it.
And then you have Kate. Her dog barfs up a dead animal and all she does is complain about the mess and the smell. No concern about rabies or any other disease. She spends money on getting Shoka groomed (why can't the kids brush the dog) but doesn't even call the vet to see what she should do. There are no words to describe that.
@Kateplusmy8 Hope watching those old episodes did not make U too sad....embrace the good fr those days....make new memories 2morrow! :)
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Sweet Jesus! Even Milo sees that it's unhealthy, abnormal and ridiculous for Kate to sit and watch the episodes over & over & over & over again while weeping.
Which begs the question, is she crying and living in the past because she is truly reminiscing, or is she crying because she no longer has the huge TLC paycheck and perks, with no other prospects in sight?
Ggotyourumberkate,
I get you..
(((hugs))))
In many states animals are better protected than children. Yes people do seem to go nuts over animals as opposed to kids. Oddly sometimes people see kids as possessions free to do "as you see fit" more than animals. People seem to see animal owners as "caretakers" and you're not allowed to mess up.
capecodmama said... 179 ..."My younger daughter has a female black lab. Once in a while she gets loose. When they finally find her, she always has a bloated stomach because she eats anything she finds. She gets fed properly and receives a ton of love and attention. They've had blood work done to make sure she doesn't have something that causes her to pig out like that, but she's fine. She's just a scavenger. She hasn't vomitted anything up though so that's good."
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My neighbors had a black lab as well. He lived to be a ripe old age, but he often went on "walkabout" (as they called it :) too, and was known to rummage in trash. He actually did end up with stomach bloat- GDV and they had to get the surgery for him. My BILs lab would get into the cans of powdered baby formula when their kids were babies, they could never leave it on a counter.
Dogs are rummagers (is that a word? lol) and they can be hunters. My dog and her dearly departed partner in crime killed some varmints back in their younger days. They killed some birds, two pet hamsters that escaped their cages and a baby bunny :( But they didn't eat them. They were always proud to show us as they strutted in the house! Yuck! Once one of them came in and dropped a dead bird by Hubby's head when he was napping on the sofa. He didn't find it as funny as we did :)
Anything is possible.... if Kate is indeed telling the truth, it just seems not normal for a dog to eat a decaying animal. While the smell might be tantalizing and they may want to poke at it, the fact that he ate it is disturbing to me. I just hope he wasn't hungry.
Picking up from the dog mess... I gather Shoka has spent his Gosselin "Endless Summer", holed up in the family basement.
If your dog ever eats Chicken Bones-- feed them Vasoline & white-bread sandwiches. (Canine in-home remedy, and truly a life saver.)
I just got engaged, for the 18th year in a row in Redondo Beach. He bought a replacement ring for the 'lost one' we used in England, 12 years ago. I cried sitting there, on the sea. Thanks to Katie, and this Blog for the inspiration for the 4th of July trip. Now, I can finally toss my "Future Husband" placecard into the Pacific!
There is something terribly wrong when she is sitting there with her kids crying because they no longer have the show, watching the episodes over and over and over, and talking about them all the time. She took it all for granted when she had it and was so blase' about the opportunities - Grand Canyon a waste of space, I didn't want to sleep in a tent, I wanted to stay at the nice lodge and yes it was all down hill after that. Oh how many times have we been here. I don't even know at the times. Oh we're going to Australia for a couple of weeks. Oh it's our tradition to go to BHI, blah, blah.
There is also something terribly wrong about a dog eating road kill. A hunter for fresh meat, maybe. Road kill - I never ever heard of that, ever. Yes my retreiver would sometimes bring me a mole and leave it for me on the door step, but that was me to eat not him and he is a hunting dog. It is just sad. Really, really sad.
I adopted a rescue , he's a mixed terrier, and he is adorable ! I'm absolutely ecstatic with him! I am so glad he is part of my family now . He was staying with a very nice young lady who fosters rescue dogs and cats. He has transitioned into our home very nicely.
If you have never rescued a dog or cat I highly recommend it!
This whole thing with Shoka truly makes me sick to my stomach. I pray he's ok and survives being owned by that bitch from hell.
And this sick stuff with sitting around making the kids watch all these old episodes and crying? Her life, as bad and empty and sterile and lonely as I thought it was, is apparently worse than all that.
She needs serious mental health help NOW. And won't get it. /shudder
anger issues kate said... 170
PLEASE, ADOPT A SHELTER DOG/CAT.
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Thank you anger issues for all of the thoughtful advice. I would ABSOLUTELY adopt a dog. I live near Philadelphia and have heard wonderful things about the Philadelphia Animal Welfare Society (PAWS).
And I definitely agree with you that there are a lot of things to think about before getting a dog, and I would absolutely make sure that there was room in my life for a pet. Many dog owners have stressed that to me, that having a dog is not only a privilege, it is a major responsibility and not to be taken lightly. I do want to be sure that I would be able to give him/her the best life possible. So we will see, I am hoping that everything will fall into place at that time and that I can give a deserving dog a home...
Oh, and do you think Kate is aware that there is absolutely NOTHING that she and her kids did on the Kate Plus 8 episodes that cannot be done again without a television show? If watching the Saint Jude's episode is making her weepy, maybe she could make another visit! Or she could get a job, save up, and take her kids on another vacation...just because it won't be aired on television doesn't mean it's impossible.
In fact, maybe it would be even better - wasn't Kate always kvetching about the fans taking pictures when they would go to public places? Maybe without a production crew following them and drawing attention, that wouldn't happen and they would be able to enjoy some privacy.
C'mon guys! For once missy Khate is telling the truth. She DID miss huge opportunities to help others.
Btw - hubby is laying back in the lazy-boy making odd noises. Silly me asked WTH are you doing? His reply..."taking off for Mars. Now shut up and get on here quick before blast off or step away woman"!
I stepped away. Someone had to take the dog out.
The man is 61. It's a crazy life, but it's OUR life. And I love it.
capecodmama- So sorry to hear about your daughter's dog. I know that it was probably one of the hardest decisions she's ever had to make. So many times when faced with something like this we think of ourselves and how we don't want to lose our beloved pet so good on her for doing what was best for the dog that shows real love.
If they are watching these episodes, then the kids are seeing how absolutely horrible she was to their father, and that doesn't bother her? Probably not, but is this something that the kids should watch over and over again?
I wonder if they watch the wedding renewal episode and listen to her promising them that their parents would always be together. After all, the trip to Hawaii was an adventure, one that they miss and filled with family memories.
My Mom was a parental anienator. She lived for talking smack about Dad to me daily at 13+. My two sisters went with my Father. I got over it, and she did too.
She was so full of GLEE when he finally lost his 2nd Mansion in Baja, Mexico. Sick... with enjoyment. -South Bayer-
Watch Kate walk down the hospital hallways with Jon in that St. Jude episode. She can hardly wait to get it over with. That nice girl who is showing them around is just an annoying mosquito to Kate. She walks 6 feet in front of everyone because she is always in a hurry to get things over with. And I laugh to think she is sitting there crying in front of her 8 kids pining for her show..hahahahha.....love it. Could she actually be telling her kids that they had it so good with TLC and now look at where they are? I smell mediocre right around the corner Kate.
Oh, my God. Kate has really sunk to a new low tweeting about crying while watching the old episode and missing all the travel and opportunities.
I think she is finally realizing she's shit out of luck.
Remember when you were 6 years old and mom wouldn't give you a cookie before supper and you thought if you just whined and cried about it enough she'd give in? Yeah you learned by age 7 that doesn't work.
It feels like Kate is whining and crying hoping if she just does it enough, someone will take pity and give her that cookie. Or a new show. Gosh she needs so much therapy.
@Call Me Crazy...no, I wasn't offended so please don't take it that way. Not at all.
Well let's see...Kate has had opportunities or could have had them with her "love of running," she could have you know run for a charity, cancer or something such as that to make awareness in her hometown or whatever.
Opporutniites are those things that don't always land in your lap. They are not things you expect to be handed to you just because you say you are interested.
There is a lady I am familiar with, she works, volunteers with homeless that's an opporutnity to make yourself part of your community without expect other's to do it for you. Putting yourself out there and not expecting anything in return.
Kate would, since she's without a job and all spend part of her day at a shelter, animal or human but she won't. Sometimes you have to go looking for your opportunities.
Something wrong if you want all your opportunities to be filmed for just a 'once in a life time.' Sometimes help if you go beyond that one time.
Since she mentioned darning socks, why not not sit and knit hats for patients with cancer, they would appreciate that simple gesture.
If your kids miss opporutnities, I mean didn't these kids once go to the fire station or set up a lemonaide stand to give the money to charity? There is nothing, Kate, preventing you from doing that now. You just want to be selfish and wish it was thought up for you, planned and filmed. That is what I call a selfish-opporutnity. Your heart wasn't in that St. Jude trip everybody could see it.
Want a trip? Take your kids to Gettsburg, teach them something that will make more of an impression in their lives than, "don't you miss that we used to..."
I've never been in the spotlight and have no intentions of ever doing so...my question is, why is it so hard for some to walk away from it? I sure as heck would not want my personal life examined. Why do people want to seek it out? Yeah, yeah, I heard all about the, " I was never loved enough as a child, it's what I always wanted to do, acting," or any number of things.
Why is it so hard for some to give up the notion that they will never be famous? Or that their 10-15 Minutes of fame are over? What more could you want out of life other than what you say you have? "I live for my kids," You sure don't seem to show it Kate.
I wonder does she play the divorce episode and cry over it.
I would not put it pass her to do something like that while blaming Jon.
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