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| The Gosselins collecting love offerings and selling photos at a church speaking engagement in PA, just 10 days before quietly signing an endorsement deal worth $60,000. |
It's always been pretty obvious that long after they became very wealthy, Jon and Kate continued to unethically portray a couple with their hands full just struggling to get by. Just how much money was taken from innocent church goers and other people under the mistaken impression they needed their money just to eat and pay the bills may never be known. Today however, former US Weekly reporter Robert Hoffman, who was assigned to the Gosselin beat for two years and has stated is a friend of Jon's, posted a revealing contract on his web site.
The contract with Lane furniture is dated September 23, 2008, and includes some of the following interesting information:
- The couple were paid $30,000 in cash and $30,000 in furniture, for a total of $60,000.
- Lane was responsible for all the taxes that Jon and Kate would owe as a result of this exchange
- Jon and Kate were to have final approval of the promotional video they were to shoot for Lane
A second contract dated November 14, 2008 provided for $20,000 payment in cash and $5,000 worth of Samsung electronics.
Around about this time, the Gosselins had several speaking engagements lined up, many at churches. (What appears to be a complete list can be found here.) One such example is Cornerstone Christian Fellowship in Abington, located just down the road near Philadelphia. While they have removed any reference to the Gosselins from their web site, another Gosselin blog saved the information they posted:
September 14, 2008
Jon and Kate Plus 8 Registration
We are excited to be hosting the cast of "Jon and Kate Plus 8" on Sunday, September 14 at 10:00 am. Completing the requested information below will pre-register you for this event. We are asking only those within a 15 mile radius of the church to pre-register and attend, as there is limited seating available. Thank you for understanding. This event is free, but please come prepared to give in a love offering toward the Gosselin’s. Due to the increased response for this event, we have rented Keswick Theatre, a local production theatre around the corner from the church in Glenside, Pa. This will provide much more seating. Children will be included in the service, sitting with their parents. Don’t worry, the service will be a fast paced, multi-media experience that will keep your kids’ attention.
We look forward to meeting you soon!
In addition, a fan posted a lengthy account of her encounter with Jon and Kate in Abington, reposted on a fan blog, which includes in part this:
"We sat in the center of the theater, row G, so we were pretty close. I had a perfect view. We sang 2 worship songs. Then the pastor came out and talked about the church. We had to sit through a long video about the church. Then they had a raffle. The pastor then explained that there would be two offerings: one for the church to pay off their rent of the theater, and another for Jon and Kate.
Finally, he introduced Jon and Kate... I'm going to be honest, they looked miserable at first. Kind of like they didn't want to be there. They didn't really smile or make eye contact with the crowd. I think they were more annoyed at the fact that everyone was cheering and screaming and clapping and they just see themselves as a "normal" family. At least that is what it seemed like to me. The interview started and they lighted up I guess you could say. ...
Kate also does some kind of "online devotional" once a week. Since vrigg wanted to know more about their faith, I'll go into that a little bit more. Apparently there was this lady who had terminal ovarian cancer, who was Kate's age. Her last dying wish was to meet Kate and talk to her. (This was in March). So Jon and Kate went to visit her in the hospital, where Kate helped her accept God and death. She passed away shortly after that. The grandmother called Kate to tell her the woman's son was diagnosed with pediatric cancer, completely non related. He passed away this summer. Kate still keeps in touch with this family. I think this is why her charity of choice is pediatric cancer. They said it was things like these, bringing people closer to God, is what keeps them going. It was truly inspirational. I had no idea that the Gosselins were this spiritual. Jon mentioned prayer (praying TO God, not AT God) and having a relationship with Him.
....Following the interview, the pastor asked us to be gracious with our love offerings for Jon and Kate for their being here, and something about the kids' babysitter. There was NO mention of any such college funds! I repeat! NO MENTION OF ANY COLLEGE FUND. The pastor said the money goes directly to the Gosselins. They set up the table and chair for Jon and Kate to greet and sign autographs on the photos. The photos were $20 each (I think Luna said it was $10 for one kid, or $20 for the whole family) but here it was $20 for the same picture.
No, we did not purchase a picture, and no, we did not give a love offering. We did however, wait in line because I just wanted to see them up close (moreso Jon [[wink]] ). I made eye contact with Kate. Everyone was standing there gawking at them and snapping pictures as they were signing autographs. Then the security guards instructed them to not use their flash because it is distracting. We were allowed to take pictures though."
Before grifting from blue collar church folk or anyone, is there a moral and ethical obligation to disclose just how well off you are doing financially? We certainly think so.
1247 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1247 Newer› Newest»The thing is a leather couch isn't necessarily the best out there. You can spend a lot more on a different coach. It just depends. She's just so.....so....NEW MONEY! It's embarrassing.
Also, the idea of Pamela Anderson giving one flying sh%t what Kate Gosselin has to say is genuinely making me giggle.
Kate spent several weeks with Pam. I'm surprised she didn't learn by then Pam doesn't care what she or anyone else thinks.
I think Kate knows perfectly well that Pam couldn't stand her, and this is her way of "being the bigger person", which she will never be - EVER! I think the whole post was a big FU to Pam, except for the "brown leather sofa" part, which was a big FU to us! Thank you, Kate. We are honored that you care about what we say!
Dwindle, hang in there. A new job will come along, and I, too, hope it's better than the old one. This is such a frustrating time!
It really does amaze me that kate doesn't or won't get it - people actually like Pam and she also has, umm, assets that aren't ALL fake that draw attention, lol. Kate - well, people don't like her and she has...hair? a WTP tattoo? Anything?
And, Pam worked like the dickens on her dancing. She took it seriously, like a true entertainment professional would.
Duh to kate - if you were running DWTS, who would YOU select?
We only have leather because we have cats with claws and they seem to leave the leather alone, but anything with fabric upholstery they would destroy.
Plus I live in a VERY hot and dry climate and the leather feels wonderful in the hot months. Very cool. And then in the winter, it's fine, too, because we have super mild winters.
We've had them about 15 years now and they're getting nicer and nicer with age and regular conditioning treatments. It's definitely something that's a matter of preference. We do have traditional fabric sofas in another living area and...you guessed it, two of our cats took a shine to them and they look awful. The other two cats are trained on scratching posts, but these two are devils! (But we love them.) (But we aren't buying any more sofas for them to turn into piles of ribbon.)
Nice interview with Pam after she was announced as a contestant.
http://watch.accesshollywood.com/video/did-pamela-anderson-need-convincing-to-join-the-cast-of-dancing-with-the-stars:-all-stars/1766592955001#
Remember Pam's rumba? It was moving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykZ3Zy20LBs
I always thought "I can't make you love me" was such an appropriate choice for her. The one area she's really struggled with is trying to find that man who is going to love her and stay with her. She's been going through heartbreak after heartbreak since the kids were little trying to give them some stability. Last I heard she's still chugging along trying to find love, was with some surfer or something. Sigh.
Hey do you think DWTS picking Pam over Kate from her season was an F-U to Kate since there was such a rivalry between them? I kinda feel that vibe.
Oh Dwindle - I am so sorry about your current situation. Prayers for you during what is a difficult time, and that the best ever employment opportunity comes your way.
Wow, talk about new money. The psychic lady has another commercial. For either a car or a GPS, not sure which. Very polished. Very professional like she has been doing it all her life. I don't like her show, but she puts out a good commercial.
Hang in there, Dwindle. Sorry to hear about your knee.
Praying that your hubby finds employment too.
Blessings to you.
Be well-
Love,
Pink
Funny! Kate is exulting over her LEATHER couch to a VEGETARIAN. Ha ha. There is probably not a bit of dead animal skin in Pam's house, so she's bot only not impressed, she's probably ticked too.
Dwindle-I, too, am so sorry about your situation. I hope things work out very soon for your family. Prayers and good thoughts are on their way.
Kate is a Witch said... 6
We only have leather because we have cats with claws and they seem to leave the leather alone, but anything with fabric upholstery they would destroy.
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Kate's a Witch -- so happy to see you post this. We, too, have leather sofas due to pet issues. We had cloth sofas years ago, and our puppy LOVED to chew the heck out of them (and the cushions, too, once she reached them after nibbling through the fabric covers). A fellow dog-loving friend recommended leather sofas -- she said, for some reason, dogs just aren't interested in destroying the leather. Eight years later, both sofas are going strong -- no nail punctures or chew-marks. Personally, they're not my preference, especially in hot weather when I'm treated to a veritable thigh-waxing every time I get up from the couch. Still, I’m grateful to have found a solution to the couch-eating problem.
Jeez, even on our mediocre military income, we have TWO leather sofas -- BROWN ones, at that. Makes Kate's braggart posts that much more laughable to me.
Hahaha Fido OOPS!
A leather couch to someone heavily involved in PETA. Insert organic foot in mouth.
I love Pam Anderson! She's an animal lover and so am I. Even though Kate is a celebrity, I still think of her as a nobody !!
Since we're talking about couches my cute little ,angel, rescue just bit a big hole in my couch! Geeesh, well at least I have an excuse to buy new couch, but not yet til he's done with biting stage!
Berks--on the preview thread you commented how the Gosselin's ride to and from school was in total around 1 and 1/2 hours per school day. I asked you if that included the time from their home to the bus stop. I am curious, what time does it take for Kate to drive from home to the bus stop one way?
This happened to be one of the last comments on the thread, so I think it was overlooked. Thanks!
Nobu - wasn't that the sushi place that she pouted about when EVERYONE in her presence said "Not a good idea" because it was the evening after the "poor poor me, bills in my purse" Today show appearance? Does she ever think beyond her own wants? Sigh.
About that Admin - I know that was when Jon took money from an account and the judge said he had to put it back. She had taken some as well and also put it back - quietly. Would that have been because a forensic accounting was taking place for the divorce? Like freezing the accounts? Which is really why should couldn't pay those bills - nothing to do with Jon, but rather the court?
Maggie I seem to remember someone mentioning it takes 10 minutes one way.
Now figure you want to be there at least a few minutes early if not 5 or 10, and you've tacked on an additional half an hour to your commute time. It would be a long commute for a child much less an adult.
fidosmommy said... 13
Good point!!
Not only is Pam a vegetarian, she is also a huge animal rights activist. The theme of her paso doble was to speak out against bullfighting.
About that Admin - I know that was when Jon took money from an account and the judge said he had to put it back. She had taken some as well and also put it back - quietly. Would that have been because a forensic accounting was taking place for the divorce? Like freezing the accounts? Which is really why should couldn't pay those bills - nothing to do with Jon, but rather the court?
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I can't remember all the stories about this. I remember there was something about a joint account they were both withdrawing from. But for whatever reason Jon's withdrawal got all the publicity even though Kate withdrew too. I can't remember if there were some kind of court order to put it back. Maybe someone can find the old articles or blog posts. It was so long ago.....kind of ridiculous they are still fighting about divorce and custody at this point given how much time has passed.
I didn't think about the dog/cat issue with leather couches. Is it really true they don't tend to chew them up? Well that's handy.
Glutes, if you have a problem with me can you please email me and we'll discuss it off the blog? This is not an open forum to bash me or anyone else here. Go away or take it off blog, it's getting creepy your obsession.
Look up the terms "new money"+"crass" and you should see Kate's picture.I laughed at the picture of her Thanksgiving table (the one with a place card that said, "Kate's future husband"), and--wow--that's a holiday table set for guests? We love to get out the china (Bernardaud), crystal (Baccarat), and sterling (Tiffany Audubon--love the little birds). Hers looked like crap. Goes to show, you can spend loads of money, but you can't buy taste. If she is so well-off--and she uses every CC post to rub it in that she has this, this, and this--why not hire someone to decorate for her? Doesn't she want her kids to grow up with good taste? She could make that house into a showplace, but she fills it with cheap crap instead. I guess the most important thing for her is that it's all free. How sad.
I'd love to see her try to survive for a week in my 'hood. The ladies would eat her alive. It rained the other day, and in the local Whole Foods every woman there was wearing her pearls and LeChameau Vierzonord boots. No hooker heals. She'd never fit in. She would be "discussed" endlessly.
I noticed Jon's Twitter silence as well.
If this article is a direct interview on him, well, shame on him. If it's a "source quoted" article, then I'll apologize to Jon and say shame on Star/Radaronline.
It will be interesting to see what, if anything, he says.
Send my good wishes to Mr. Dwindle - I hope that a great opportunity awaits him!
And I send my good wishes from the comfort of my RED leather sofa - so kHate, you can suck it!
Edited to say sorry, that hollymo comment was from me, Bearswife - I used my other account.
silimom said... 26
I noticed Jon's Twitter silence as well.
If this article is a direct interview on him, well, shame on him. If it's a "source quoted" article, then I'll apologize to Jon and say shame on Star/Radaronline.
It will be interesting to see what, if anything, he says.
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I'm with you. If the article is accurate and Jon approved, I give up. Jon is either a complete moron or had the world's worst divorce lawyer.
Good thing he has enough money for full back tattoos, dating and cigarettes. Didn't he recently tweet of a photo of him and his girlfriend at a concert in Philly.
These kids are truly screwed with these two as parents.
Good wishes to the Dwindle family. Hope things turn around quickly!
I'm sorry, Admin. Not arguing, just always wondered about that issue. The Nobu reference just reminded of me of that time.
Has anyone ever read "The Millionaire Next Door"? It's about people who have money, but don't live like they do, so folks are unaware.
And then there's Ms. Kate.
Kate is a twit said... 21
fidosmommy said... 13
Good point!!
Not only is Pam a vegetarian, she is also a huge animal rights activist. The theme of her paso doble was to speak out against bullfighting.
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That's right!
Kate has a leather couch, and a Kangaroo pelt draped over two chairs.
I doubt that Pamela wants to be around the likes of Kate.
Sorry for what Kiwi??
Once a Viewer said... 185
Dwindle said... 158
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Best of luck to you & your hubby. What a heartwarming story about the firefighters. It's good to be reminded decent human beings do exist sometimes!
Ex-Nurse: My Glycine sticks arrived today! I am eager to try them- how long till you notice a difference- 10 days? 6 weeks? Right away (yes?)
I'll let you know the verdict!
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What are Glycine sticks? What are they used for?
Admin said: "Pam can smell a moocher a mile away. I'm betting she won't even acknowledge Kate's slobbering blog post."
I hope she doesn't. Acknowledging Kate is so beneath her.
Dwindle: Sorry to hear about your Hunny Bunny's job & I also am hoping he finds something great that he likes soon!
Layla said -- We love to get out the china (Bernardaud), crystal (Baccarat), and sterling (Tiffany Audubon--love the little birds).
...I'd love to see her try to survive for a week in my 'hood. The ladies would eat her alive. It rained the other day, and in the local Whole Foods every woman there was wearing her pearls and LeChameau Vierzonord boots. No hooker heals. She'd never fit in. She would be "discussed" endlessly.
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Are you serious, or is this just snark (about your china and silver, and women with pearls?) If you're serious, why flaunt it? Why even bring it up? People who talk about what their money has bought them, as well who lives in their affluent neighborhood, are not showing class... no matter how subtle it is, or in what context.
We don't have expensive china, fine crystal, or sterling silver, but our holiday meals with family, friends and so much love, taste just as good on Pfaltzgraff pottery plates and Libby tumblers as it would if the honey baked ham was served on china platters and eaten with Tiffany sterling.
Flight I can't find the articles now about Jon and Kate's frozen account issue so I'm just going by memory. I know in CA you can file to freeze martial assets, I assume this was what was done. Otherwise someone greedy like Kate can quickly dispose of a lot of the money earned in marriage--either spend it or hide it offshore or whatever, and then oh gee wilikers we only have a few grand to split oh well!
If I recall they both withdrew money from a frozen account. I really never got the impression either of them were doing it to try to screw the other over in the divorce. To me it seemed like they actually needed the cash to live. Although as I recall the amount Kate withdrew was quite substantial. Wish I could find this now, now I'm curious.
Pam's head would spin if someone told her about poor Shoka.
What really proves Kate is selfish and a lousy mom....she has NO job, countless people to do her bidding...her only daily dilemmas to ponder seem to be: do I get a manicure and/or pedicure today?; when do I run and then shower?; Starbucks or McDonald's?; hooker heals or boots?; tweet or not;"""""WTF!?!?! Drive your kids to school and pick them up so they don't have to spend 2 extra freakin' hours on the loser cruiser. What a piece of work she is!
Tomatoes @178 I know the tickets are free I was being snarky!
Since when does riding the school bus make u a loser?? They probably like it more than an extra 2 hours with cranky mom or the nanny of the week.
I have been thinking that maybe that article on Radar is a PR move. Maybe the GB is very negative not only about Kate but also about Jon! That's why he mentioned that he took the high road about filming and that Kate has money! He's throwing her under the bus, maybe it's going to be " Everyman for himself " kind of situation! And also if he hadn't given that interview wouldn't he have said so by now?
This is something that will be easy to figure out in the future if the book ever comes out and Jon looks really bad! People turn on friends for money!
Tomatoes that should be @178 on page 3. I know the tickets are free. I guess my attempt at humor fell flat. I only made the comment because someone had contacted live chat and got disconnected.
What I'm sorry for Admin is slipping back to the divorce crap.
Anyone see a pattern here? Things not going well in Gosselin land and the trolls come out. You can set a watch by it.
So, with apologies to Disney, Bambi and Flower:
I don't mind the young admin being a know-it-all, in fact, I LIKE it!
(I don't think you ever come across like that Admin, and even someone does, well it IS your blog and no one is holding a gun to someone's head making them read here. The phrase "I don't swim in your toilet so don't poop in my pool" comes to mind).
My house is a family of 4 know-it-alls, including me so, by golly, "I" am an expert in spotting know-it-alls and Admin doesn't come close :)
Dancing queen: my kids use to call the bus the loser cruiser cuz every time they rode it they got motion sickness so I would drive them to school. Kate probably looks forward to the extra time she doesn't have them cuz they r on the bus and the kids would probably call the BBB the loser cruiser. I meant no offense.
Flight of the Kiwi lol why thanks. I myself work with a bunch of know-it-alls! They're called lawyers. These poor trolls don't know how easy they have it! :)
The people here are interesting and knowledgable and I enjoy our constant exchange of information, ideas and opinions.
Kiwi it's not YOUR fault for bringing up the divorce, Kate and Jon bring it up all the time.
The Gosselin's account were never frozen. They needed the appointed arbitrator's approval to withdraw money from the money market account. And by the way they both agreed to having an arbitrator.
Remember Kate crying on Today that Jon withdrew that super large amount out of their MM account and NOW she was in fear of NOT being able to buy food, provide warmth, or pay their mortgage. Well, of course that was bullshit. Because Radaronline provided documents that stated their money market account (where Jon withdrew the large amount) was NOT the account where their monthly expenses (food, ulitity, mortgage) were paid from. Their checking account was set-up by the 5th of every month (Kate appeared on Today Oct. 5) Jon and Kate were each to deposit $7,500 to that account to make $15,000 for monthly living costs.
And TLC was in the process of thinking of suing Jon so you know that TLC would have paid those monthly costs IF there truly wasn't money for the Gosselins. There was never any fear on Kate's part at all. Like Jon said they were 11 accounts total set-up.
Kate only went on Today to blast Jon as a totally selfish, unfit father who stole money from his own kids. Pure bullshit. And by the way the press barely mentioned that Kate w/d money from their MM account twice before Jon did. Kate wanted huge sympathy and to draw the public to her side. She even called The View after the Today show interview and said that she would work at McDonald's if she had to. Again, pure bullshit to drive the public to her side while completely bashing her children's father on national TV.
Personally, I can't wait until the kids are old enough to read and research this "interview". I think it will tell them exactly who their mother is. Hence, a mother who loves bashing their father on national tv with lies over a mother who loves her children more than hating their father. Bravo Kate! Well done!
Well, I absolutely MUST flaunt our 1994 toyota truck we lovingly call "plasti", short for plastimobile because the ratio of plastic to metal is 90%, and my 2002 Mazda Protege - oh and, of course our beloved 1985('84?) Starcraft Starlite SD 21 pop-up camper.
Let's throw tomatoes said... 41
I have been thinking that maybe that article on Radar is a PR move. Maybe the GB is very negative not only about Kate but also about Jon! That's why he mentioned that he took the high road about filming and that Kate has money! He's throwing her under the bus, maybe it's going to be " Everyman for himself " kind of situation! And also if he hadn't given that interview wouldn't he have said so by now?
This is something that will be easy to figure out in the future if the book ever comes out and Jon looks really bad! People turn on friends for money!
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I think Jons twitter silence could be due to time. Perhaps he is just too busy to be on twitter every hour of the day. I would not be surprised if he did not know about the articles. No one seems to be making him aware of them either.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 9
Hey do you think DWTS picking Pam over Kate from her season was an F-U to Kate since there was such a rivalry between them? I kinda feel that vibe.
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Maggie thanks for the summary. Wow.
I remember being absolutely astounded that the media wasn't picking up on the fact that Kate withdrew money TOO. So they both withdrew money, that's their problem to resolve, but at least Jon didn't use the incident to accuse her of not providing for her children.
How can Layla be flaunting her money when we don't even know who she is? Layla was making a great point about Kate's house and how it is decorated with no class.
I noticed in Kate's living room when they were packing for the RV trip how ugly it is decorated. No class or taste at all. She has the piano as the center of the room. Yuck. It needs to be on the wall sharing the foyer. And yes, I understand Kate wants or needs that table to pack on but the table isn't the problem. If you look at the photos of the living room when the house was for sale, that is the way the room should be set-up. And Kate's table could still be in the room with plenty of room to move about. Kate has 3 cheap sofa's in half of the room. And a very cheap piece in the corner. Two cheap desks on either side of the dining doorway. The whole thing yells she knows nothing about decorating.
And Layla I did notice her dining table for Easter and how cheaply it was done.
In that Long Beach Women's conference video I posted here, at the very end when Kate is leaving, somebody shouts out to her about that money taken from the account. "Hey Kate, are you glad to get the $$$$ back?" She just sneers and walks away. He does give the amount, I just don't remember what it was.
@47..."Well, I absolutely MUST flaunt our 1994 toyota truck we lovingly call "plasti", short for plastimobile because the ratio of plastic to metal is 90%, and my 2002 Mazda Protege - oh and, of course our beloved 1985('84?) Starcraft Starlite SD 21 pop-up camper."
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lol, Kiwi! If it ain't broke, you don't fix it. Or, if it's broke and still takes you where you want to go, you DO fix it! I've been looking around to buy a new SUV, but darn it, there is nothing wrong with the one I have. It gets the job done, still with little repairs, and I don't need a new Benz or Escalade just so the neighbors don't find a reason to talk about me.
I agree with Maggie, Layla was making the point that Kate is tacky and doesn't live how the wealthy really live.
I have cheap plates myself but I know what I have and I don't go around talking about how VIP my life is and I don't care that others like Layla has much nicer things. Whatever, I think it's great.
I think the point is the ability to recognize what's tacky and new money and what's not.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 23
I didn't think about the dog/cat issue with leather couches. Is it really true they don't tend to chew them up? Well that's handy.
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Ironically, it IS true. We've got the chew-loving dogs, and an old cat who at 17 years old doesn't really care about ruining furniture anymore... It's a bit conflicting, to say the least. As animal lovers who have rescued countless animals here and abroad (during our time stationed in Italy), we don't like the idea of leather sofas. That said, in order to keep our day to day life in order, this has been one solution to the chewing problem. Don't know why, but it absolutely works. But, just as I don't like a leather interior in a car, I don't enjoy leather furniture in the home. Perhaps Kate can post a way to save money on cloth furniture that is pet-repellant? Surely there's a coupon for that. snark.
How can Layla be flaunting her money when we don't even know who she is?
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You don't have to know who someone is. If someone posts that the kind of china, crystal and silver they have, it's a sure bet they are not hurting for money. I posted that I couldn't tell if the post was snark or not.
Kate has no decorating sense whatsoever, I agree with that. She tried to BE Beth, but never could pull it off.
Laurie said .....42
Oh, I'm sorry I didn't really get it! I'm from the Bay Area and when we moved to LA I didn't realize that all the shows were free! I always thought you had to purchase tickets to get into all the venues! Gosh , they almost want to pay you so that you can be part of the audience! LOL!!even though I have lived in big cities my entire adult life , I quess I'm still a small town girl!!
"Ironically, it IS true. We've got the chew-loving dogs, and an old cat who at 17 years old doesn't really care about ruining furniture anymore"
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If you have an aging cat that tends to miss the litter box, there's a good chance that they may use the leather sofa. It may have something to do with the smell of the leather, I don't know, but trust me, no matter how many products you try, or how many professional cleaners try to remove the smell of cat urine, it never comes out of leather.
Has anyone seen a copy of the Star? How much more is there to the article other than what ROL put out there?
Regarding the leather furniture: none of us around here eat furniture but we don't like to wear each other's coats. Therefore all fabrics are leather, including in vehicles. It's so much easier to clean, too.
Regarding the dinnerware and glassware, ours is very expensive although I won't name them. They may or may not be used for a dinner. I'd throw anybody out who made snooty comments about such things. That's too low class to tolerate.
Kiwi, did you forget whatever space ship your husband uses for his travels?
You can bet I bought larger litter boxes when my cats started getting older. I don't even bother with official litter boxes. I get the translucent storage boxes that hold about 2 jugs of Tidy Cat. It's a lot harder to miss the litter box when it's twice the size. I love them and my cats never missed a beat when I made the change. I had 2 with creaky hips and they just stood to urinate, and it shot in an arc over the top. No more.
I thought that Layla was being sarcastic when she talked about getting out her Tiffany silver. Maybe I'm wrong?
I agree, though, that Kate would have absolutely no clue how to entertain guests of importance. She'd have to take classes in how to set a table, where to place the utensils, and what to do with a butter plate! Remember the scene in Pretty Woman, where Barney Thompson was teaching table manners to Vivian Ward! That's Kate. I remember watching some of the episodes in which she had NONE. Table manners, that is.
Below is an article dated Oct. 13, 2009 ordering Jon to return $180,000 of the $230,000 that he took from their account. I was wrong before in stating they needed the arbitrator's permission to w/d money from that acct.; they needed just each other's permission.
This is the biggie here: Kate accused Jon of w/d $230,000 on the Today show and yet the court only said Jon needed to pay back $180,000 because KATE SPENT $55,000 OF THE $230,000 THAT SHE ACCUSED JON OF STEALING. Of course, Kate said she used that money for the household and the kids. Right, Kate. But the court is demanding an itemized list from Kate where that $55,000 money went to.
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According to Kate's lawyer, Mark Momjian, "The remaining sum of $55,000, which Ms. Gosselin used for household bills and expenses relating to the children, will be subject to further determination by the arbitrator at a later date."
Jon is required to repay the loot by October 26 -- the next hearing -- or appear before the judge for a contempt proceeding.
The judge also ordered Kate to provide an accounting of past expenses -- also due by Oct. 26.
Kate says, "As difficult as this has been for me, I am pleased that the Court has ruled fairly on behalf of myself and my children. Now that this matter has been ruled on, I look forward to returning to private arbitration, as we have agreed to do, to resolve any remaining issues."
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I am sooooo pissed. Let's review Kate's above statement about this whole issue of her going on the Today show.
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"Now that this matter has been ruled on, I look forward to returning to private arbitration, as we have agreed to do, to resolve any remaining issues."
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Now that she has blasted her children's father in the national media for stealing, she is now looking forward to returning to private arbitration. Hell, this whole issue of the missing money should have been NEVER brought to the public's attention. It should have been dealt with the private arbitrator that they both agreed to in the beginning of their separation. She makes me sick. And I would love to know how Kate who is so super attentive about money overlooked that she w/d $55,000 BUT couldn't remember what for. Therefore needing a further court date for her to account for this missing money without Jon's approval that was needed.
I'm a huge fan of DWTS as well. Actually, (at times, when 'certain ones' were dancing)... my husband and I both were!
We had lost our huge home in Long Beach, CA to foreclosure. Kate just bought her new ("mine all mine") Mansion. We had to move to a smaller home, in the LBC 'Hood. We spent our Monday DWTS nights on the hardwood floors- with my leg awkwardly bent in "Tony's" hand, hobbling around the floor like Kartie. Then I blogged all about it later on GWoP. It was one of the best times of our life!
Kate: "Now that you can all see what kind of a loser I was married to, a man who would steal from his own children, I'm sure I have your sympathy. Hold that thought. Now, go away, this is private." (Hand flap)
Kate doesn't know anything about anything! She should not be a role model, mentor, inspiration,whatever for young people! The thing I can say that Kate does really well is scam and sucker gullible people, the media and businesses! I'm not good at that at all! I don't know what excuse she can use for that kind of behavior because I'm sure many of us here have had our ups and downs in life and have not become master manipulators like Kate!
I was very poor as a child ( Santa Claus came only once to our house as a child) but I went to college became a teacher, married well ! I have spent my life helping others whenever I could! Even though my kids grew up very differently then I did, I taught them to work hard for what they need or want, and to always help others when they can!
The reason I'm bringing this up is because I have a hard time trying to figure out why she is the way she is! She should be so in love with those kids instead of always trying to escape! So many women who can't have kids would love to have those kids! It just doesn't make sense!!!
Also, tonight is my last night to post! It has been a very interesting experience !
I think administrator is doing a great job , everyone here is great! Very smart and very funny!!
Layla said... 25
Look up the terms "new money"+"crass" and you should see Kate's picture.I laughed at the picture of her Thanksgiving table (the one with a place card that said, "Kate's future husband"), and--wow--that's a holiday table set for guests? We love to get out the china (Bernardaud), crystal (Baccarat), and sterling (Tiffany Audubon--love the little birds). Hers looked like crap. Goes to show, you can spend loads of money, but you can't buy taste. If she is so well-off--and she uses every CC post to rub it in that she has this, this, and this--why not hire someone to decorate for her? Doesn't she want her kids to grow up with good taste? She could make that house into a showplace, but she fills it with cheap crap instead. I guess the most important thing for her is that it's all free. How sad.
I'd love to see her try to survive for a week in my 'hood. The ladies would eat her alive. It rained the other day, and in the local Whole Foods every woman there was wearing her pearls and LeChameau Vierzonord boots. No hooker heals. She'd never fit in. She would be "discussed" endlessly.
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Talk about having no class. This post oozes snobbery and there is nothing remotely classy about being a pretentious snob. I don't know about anyone else, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to fit in your 'hood. And I would not be the least bit concerned about being "discussed" by the likes of you and your neighbors. In fact, I can't imagine anything I aspire to less than being a wealthy socialite who spends my days looking down my nose at those who "don't fit in." What a superficial existence.
Layla,
Don't know if you were being snarky but your table setting sounds lovely. I have Waterford crystal that my husband and I bought 30 years ago when we were living in Scotland. It was incredibly inexpensive so we thought, why not. But it sits in my china cabinet and never gets used. It's just not us. I also have my great grandmother's bone china but it's wrapped up in a box, never used. Again, not us. I always do Thanksgiving for the entire family and my table looks lovely with old glasses and antique english transferware that I've collected over the years at second hand stores for a couple of bucks a piece.
I agree with the poster who said Kate's living room was boring. I think her whole house is boring. It does not look like a home. It's just a house with furniture in it. There is no life to it. They say your home is a reflection of you. Well, Kate's is a reflection of her. Boring.
I hope you're not serious . . . I agree. I was a little put off by that post. Really???
I've always found Kate's complete lack of taste one of the more fascinating and amusing things about her. Mainly because so many people seem to look up to her and emulate her - makes you wonder what they must live like.
Her homes are all "decorated" in 1980s motel style. This one has outdated colors, patterns and pieces of furniture. Love the kangaroo pelt; it's such a conversation piece.
If she hadn't had the Lane staff putting some rooms of this house together for her, the house would look even more dismal and bare than it does in her Twitpics.
Her tables are set poorly and improperly. Honest to god, Kate, if you're going to post pics of a table, at least learn where each piece of flatware should be placed. Ignorant and proud of it.
I hope no one gets offended by this since a few people seem to be very sensitive lately and I have to walk on eggshells at times, but Kate reminds me of sort of a Jeff Foxworthy "redneck" version of Pioneer Woman. She does sort of the same things only so darn new money.
If Pioneer Woman does a post about reading she'll have some beautifully composed photograph of a child reading with a nice blurred background, soft lighting using her 3,000 dollar Nikon. When Kate does the same post it's a blurry, crooked cell phone pic with half the kids' faces in shadows.
No offense meant!
Re glycine sticks
I noticed a difference right away. my biggest problem was getting to sleep, and I definitely feel sleepier and fall asleep faster.. I also feel like I need less hours of sleep. I have been able to cut back on my sleeping prescription meds and hope to be able to get off of them completely. I
For anyone who missed the original post, glycine is an amino acid powder that has been shown to induce sleep and improve the quality of sleep without side effects. I heard about it on Dr Oz. The recommended dosage is 3 grams, taken within an hour of bedtime, mixed into water or juice. Glycine comes in bulk powder, capsules and Pre-measured packets (sticks). I was diagnosed with severe apne and can't tolerate the mask and machine that treats it. I have really lousy quality sleep, with not enough of the deep, restorative delta waves. I am pretty happy with my results and hope that it keeps working as well in the long-term.
She could make that house into a showplace, but she fills it with cheap crap instead.
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The kids don't need to live in a "showplace" house. They need a home, not a house, and one that is filled with love and a mother who isn't concerned with the superficial. Kate has "stuff." Kate needs to learn that it isn't all about material possessions. I bet Jon's house isn't decorated to the hilt, with designer furniture and crystal goblets, but the kids most likely don't care. They are making memories just being with him where they know they are loved.
Kate only wishes she could figure out how to be Ree Drummond. Maybe she'll pick up some tips at Blogher12.
Nah. That would mean listening, learning, and application.
Designer furniture should be the least of Kate and Jon's concerns.
I am pretty happy with my results and hope that it keeps working as well in the long-term.
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Are there any side effects, do they become habit forming, and over the long-run, do you need to increase the dosage if the amount you're now taking no longer works?
@capecodemama 68 Look over your waterford and select those pieces you would drink from fairly often. Sell the others through Craig's list or any other means. Then buy more of the pieces you would use often, and start using and enjoying them all the time. They are beautiful, and can be put in a dishwasher. I don't usually do a full on onslaught dishwasher timing of 2 hours or whatever--not necessary. I found that I had an abundance of pieces I only used for very special dinners that I frankly don't care to have anymore, so replaced them with what I like and am happier with being able to enjoy their beauty on a daily basis.
fidosmommy said... 65
Kate: "Now that you can all see what kind of a loser I was married to, a man who would steal from his own children, I'm sure I have your sympathy. Hold that thought. Now, go away, this is private.
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You nailed it!
Dwindle,
I am so sorry for the challenges you are facing now. Hopefully, your sense of humor will sustain you and help you keep you sane. This is just such a tough time for so many.
Ex Nurse, I appreciate that the glycine can improve your sleep quality and ability to fall asleep that is great, however, isn't your severe sleep apnea due to your breathing too shallow (hypopnea) or not breathing (apnea) as the case may be?
I would think that is the case since you have a CPAP and mask. Being a nurse you know how important oxygen saturation is and how dangerous it can be to the patient for their SaO2 levels to drop too low. Please consider trying a different mask or maybe just try your mask and machine again, maybe with the glycine you will be able to relax and fall asleep easier. It takes time to get use to CPAP therapy, but it could ultimately save your life.
To Nurse and everyone else here, I'm sorry to get off topic, but this is something I feel strongly about. I believe CPAP therapy saved my life.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 20m
It's late,I know but need 2 say thank u 2 those of u who understand&cont 2 encourage/supp me.U don't hav 2,but u do&it's so appreciated! GN!
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I do believe that managed to squeeze out a very nice, appropriate message to her twenties thanking them for their support. Keep that up Kate, and we won't have anything to talk about.
Supporting and encouraging Kate in WHAT? She doesn't DO anything.
I don't think Kate's house should be filled with expensive furniture or aim to be a showstopper. I simply meant her decorating lacks taste and design. A house can look great or at least good even if it is decorated within a budget. Like someone said why didn't she get an interior designer to help her. Or perhaps she did and the results are surely lacking.
I was watching TV the past few hours and this popped in my mind. Back to Oct. 5, 2009 when Kate did her "my purse is filled with bills" crapola interview, she was photographed in a stretch limo with Steve and her twins going to a Taylor Swift concert and to dine at P.F. Chang' on October 1. And her one-hour interview produced by NBC productions titled, "Kate's Story" was to be filmed less than 2 weeks away of her sitting at Today crying about not being about to provide food for her kids.
Wow! the sheer unmitigated gall of this woman. She has the money for stretch limos, bodyguards, fancying dining, and concerts mere day before crying poor on TV. And to think she knew she would be receiving a very big paycheck for her 1 hr. TV special in 2 weeks time. Keep in mind this was NOT an episode of "Jon and Kate Plus 8". No, this was all Kate's revenue for her special. Yet, she had the gall to cry poor two weeks prior to receiving this huge paycheck for herself.
Let's Throw Tomatoes wrote this is her last night to post. We will miss you for certain. Can you share with us why you aren't posting anymore? Just curious!
"The kids don't need to live in a "showplace" house. They need a home, not a house, and one that is filled with love and a mother who isn't concerned with the superficial."
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Amen! Her sense of entitlement may be viral. The kids don't need to see or experience it.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 20m
It's late,I know but need 2 say thank u 2 those of u who understand&cont 2 encourage/supp me.U don't hav 2,but u do&it's so appreciated! GN!
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I do believe that managed to squeeze out a very nice, appropriate message to her twenties thanking them for their support. Keep that up Kate, and we won't have anything to talk about.
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She is up late. She can't sleep, and then that tweet. I wonder if she knows the GB is coming out. Something is up...tweeting thank you sediments like that just isn't something she normally does.
Midnight Madness said... 76
I am pretty happy with my results and hope that it keeps working as well in the long-term.
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Are there any side effects, do they become habit forming, and over the long-run, do you need to increase the dosage if the amount you're now taking no longer works?
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I guess sleepiness is a side effect, Since it is a non-essential Mino acid, I don't think that it would be habit forming. It is used at higher dosages for other conditions--ulcers and schizophrenia, so I feel ok if I need to increase a little over time.
Yep, either Kate had another epiphany (that she ought to at least be thankful for what she's got) or else she's got some big butterflies in her tummy about something. It sounds almost like resignation that things are out of her control. That must be very hard for her to feel.
Ex Nurse.....80
If that was sincere , I would have to agree with you, but she's not! She is a user and abuser of her fans!
Sorry, I hadn't finish my thoughts, I hadn't worked out today and my gym closes at ten, so I went in for a quick workout!
I like to comment about the furniture! I really don't care if she has expensive or cheap furniture and her young children don't care at that age!
The point is that She didn't buy the furniture like you and I do. The Lane Furniture Company didn't give her the furniture, their customers did with the overprice furniture they bought! Thats what bothers me! Not that she has lousy interior tastes! We all know she has no taste!!! She has said that she has no taste and I agree with her!!!
Also why do people compare themselves to her! If someone says something negative about her, some one will get all upset and feel like the cut was towards them!
If you are not Kate Gosselin , and all the ugliness that surrounds her, then you should not feel insulted about anything that is said about her!
What I love about this blog are all the different opinions and thoughts that people bring here! I have been reading these blogs for years and I plan to do so until that horrible and ungrateful mother can no longer scam her way through life, not be on TV and not be written about!! That's the best thing that can happen to those kids!
I fear that she will sacrifice her children to continue her life style if she gets desperate and I think she is getting there! I will never help her again! I will not buy her books, see her on TV, or anything else she has to sell! Never again!
This is interesting about how a new TV dating show has been cancelled after only 2 episodes. And it had nearly 21/2 million for its premiere. Lets hope if any flunky producer has sights on a Kate dating show he reads this:
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The network has pulled its summer dating show "3" after only two episodes, according to Entertainment Weekly. The show, which was based on an Israeli series, followed three very different single women who came together to find true love. They met nearly 100 men in search of their perfect partners and found support in each other in the process.
The premiere of "3" on July 26 brought in 2.39 million viewers, according to TV By The Numbers, but its second episode dropped to 1.65 million viewers.
Earlier this week, Vulture reported that despite its "Big Brother" lead in, "3's" second episode scored "what appear[ed] to be the lowest demo ratings ever for a premiere" on CBS, averaging a mere 0.5 rating with adults under 50.
I am surprised no one mentioned that she made sure to point out whether or not she has met the new DWTS cast.
From CC: I am looking forward to watching some who I did not see during their original seasons and who I have not met: Drew Lachey, Emmitt Smith, Helio Castroneves, Kelly Monaco and Gilles Marini.
I am also looking forward to seeing Apolo Ohno, Shawn Johnson and Melissa Rycroft dance again. I have met the amazing Apolo and the lovely Melissa and I remember studying their routines (and Shawn’s, who I have not met) on a laptop while practicing my own dancing, thinking “HOW do they do that?”
Maybe I'm seeing something where there is nothing, but it just rubbed me the wrong way especially with the weird Pam Anderson ramblings.
I usually don't have time to keep up with the comments and only read the original blog post by admin. I'm pretty sure this is the first comment I've ever written. For the last few weeks I've had time to read the comments, and I have really enjoyed them. Admin: you have a great blog here filled with some fantastic people. I love that different opinions can be posted without the commenter being lambasted.
Dwindle: I am particularly fond on your wit. I hope things get better for you and your husband soon.
Capecodmama - just curious, where did you live in Scotland? I spent a LOT of time there in the 80s and absolutely loved it.
As for Jon - it disturbs me that whenever one of these stupid articles comes out most people here seem to assume them to be true and accurate and give him little or no credit for seemingly sorting out his life and doing his best for his kids (NOT saying that people here are stupid, just quick to think the worst of Jon). I would tend to be very skeptical of articles like that, from that kind of source. I still want to give him the benefit of the doubt, that he is not seeking the attention or the publicity and is not saying (most of) the things that are attributed to him. Well, I may well be proven totally wrong, but I'd like to hope not.
Layla said... 25
No hooker heals. She'd never fit in. She would be "discussed" endlessly.
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Apparently all your money didn't buy you a basic education or you would know how to spell "heels."
Have you guys noticed how Hailey Glassman dropped out of the picture 2 years ago? She was tweeting up a storm and selling stories to the tabloids on how Jon was a pathological liar, an extortionist, a bum, etc and she always stayed true to Kate, supported Kate, said Kate was the better parent and the only one who truly loved those kids. Whatever happened to her? At one point she was giving Jon the countdown to a lawsuit to recover the money she said she lent him. It is a mystery why so many people have been able to trash Jon and none have trashed Kate. Do you think it is possible we have all got it terribly wrong and Kate is the better parent?
Did they really say that they had to put in 7500 a piece to cover living costs for the month? Is that what she puts out every month...not including tuition? Wow..I'm still trying to get my head around that figure. If she's not worried..she should be....IF thats accurate.
KAT yes, that was the correct figure. Radaronline had copies of these legal papers but it has been removed. In fact, this website had them too but again removed. I know this was true because of a comment I made on GWOP at this time. And their mortgage use to be around $10,000 a month before Kate re-did it this past year. I don't know if the tuition was taken out of this amount but I doubt it.
KAT, one other thing if I remember correctly. I think when they purchased the home in Sept./Oct. 2008, the mortgage was around $10,000 a month but the mortgage was only for 10 years. This was from public records that were researched. I think my figures are correct, but if not, someone will correct me.
ROL is reporting that according to Kate's divorce attorney Jon has been releived of paying any future CS since 4/27/12. Kate would have had to give her permission for her attorney to divulge such information. She says the only CS Jon is paying is a small amount to cover arrearages prior to 4/27 as says it's going to be paid off soon and then Jon is no longer obligated to pay CS. I don't know about anyone else who posts here, but i smell a rat as far as this entire CS story goes. Was this story a plant to make Kate come out lookinbg like the hero in the end, I don't know. One thing this story will do is shoot down any future claims of Kate crying poor. What mother of any number of children, be it 1 or 8 who is struggling lets the father off of paying his CS. Something doesn't pass the smell test concerning this story.
FYI, the leather couch theory does not work for kittens so don't take it as gospel. Don't know about dogs, though. And if Kate thinks bragging about her leather couch is impressing people, she is a "redneck" because leather couches are common these days.
I was thinking about this. Plenty of celebrities come and go and I have no idea what has happened to them over the years. If I did not read and comment on this blog, I absolutely would not have any idea what Kate or Jon are doing these days. And guess what? We are a small group so all those people who watched years ago have moved on. Kate is really a has-been.
If Jon has been relieved of CS...why did he say he was gonna do jail time if he didn't pay?? What the hell is going on? What would be a reason for a father to be relieved from his responsibilitys? What are those two trying to "pull" now?
BTW..thanks Maggie for the info...very interesting..
Could it be that Jon doesn't have a job again and can't pay but Kate doesn't want to see him jailed because of the children? I know I'm reaching here....You can slap me if I'm wrong...
Kat this goes back to April. He was working then and just recently starting working for Gameface. Like you I don't know what the hell is going on. I don't think we've heard the last of this story.
Just read the ROL article. Do not understand at all what game is being played. Someone is playing the tabloid/publicity card and I think it is Kate. It would be nice if Jon responded, not through a tabloid, what is going on. Sick of it all.
I think this entire story was set-up by Kate. First come out with a story about Jon being broke, cant pay rent, going to jail and then BAM! next day come out with Kate the Saint releives Jon of his CS obligation.
I had thought also that Kate's house doesn't look homey. It looks like a stage set. Which I guess it was.
Can't decide what would make it look more homey....more personal touches? There aren't a bunch of favorite books, or magazines around, no favorite afghan or quilt. No heirloom artwork like her grandpa's favorite painting.
Even her kitchen looks sterile. Not that *is* sterile. It just doesn't have any personality.
Nothing that shows the interests of the owner.
Oh wait. She has no interests.
Her house doesn't look loved, or used. It looks like a hotel room.
Kate sounds depressed, lonely and a little panicked to me. She does not thank anyone for anything or appear grateful ever! To anyone who helps her. She has always acted entitled. The fact that she thanked anyone for support tells me she feels the walls coming in around her and she is recognizing that most of the "world" is on to her and no longer give her the benefit of the doubt. She appears very nervous. I wonder if all her paperwork is more legal stuff to stop Gosselinbook? Something in that book tells me Kate knows her "stah" time is rapidly coming to an end. I also think the rejection from DWTS was a complete surprise to her and her mind is reeling from that. I hope the book is released soon.
Kate probably dropped the child support-can't understand why a money-grubber like her would do that though-because the GB is about to reveal how much $$ she's raked in. Possibly an attempt to have Jon call his buddy Hoffman off from publishing the book.
Wild theory perhaps?
I too read the ROL article and thought WTF? It doesn't make any sense. Not that much about this whole tragedy does make any sense but this is over the top confusing.
Really sad for those kids that this is how their parents deal with their issues, in public.
We have been fairly accurate, at times, with our guesses and speculation and reading clues -- this is a confusing mess of facts or misinformation.
If Kate actually relieved Jon of his obligations, I have to give her credit for doing something kind and in the best interest of the children.
"Best interest of the children" would be defined that she isn't bashing Jon for his lack of funds and that she is allowing him liberal access to the kids.
Whats with all the jail talk? Who's lying here. If she did relieve him of CS..... I'm sure it's only because she wants more control over those kids.
Admin...what do you know about this? What does your "source" say?
Gosselinbook (1st?) tweet from 4/26:
Apr 26
@Kateplusmy8 56 more days Kate!! It's not too late to change your ways. Follow us for updates!
Child support dropped 4/27 according to Cheryl young
Maybe theory not so wrong after all.
Setting the stage: what is your theory according to Robert's tweet and Kate dropping CS the encrypt day?
Wowser, that Kate may have asked Jon to get Hoffman to stop the book in exchange for dropping his child support.
Hoffman seems a little to optimistic about the book being published for me to believe Jon convinced him not to publish. He said on this blog yesterday that it would be out this month
Then Kate's attempt at getting book stopped through Jon failed. There's still something really stinking about this.
Is it possible Jon got even more custody, so his CS was reduced even further? I don't think Kate can just decide he doesn't pay CS.
But if his custody was increased (again?), then it would make sense that his CS was reduced.
Of course it's also possible the ROL stories are a complete load of bollocks, put out there by Kate.
If Kate relieved Jon of child support, it was because she wanted something else from Jon. It reminds me of when TLC dropped their lawsuit against Jon so he would allow the kids to film again.
I think she wants Jon to take the kids more-have them stay with him so that she can travel. One of Jon's complaints about her being on DWTS was that she was away from the kids too much.
If this happened back in April, she probably thought that she would be asked back(the leak about the All Star Season was on about this time). Then there's also her "supposed" dating show, which would also require her to travel.
So the deal was in exchange for taking the kids more, he would not be required to pay support.
However, now that DWTS is not happening, and the other show probably will not happen, she's trying to get him paying CS again. The ROL story states he was relieved of paying it since April-but that doesn't mean she's not applying for it again.
That could be what set Jon off-that she is applying to have it re-instated.
Just my opinion.
Either way-both of them should have kept it private.
I don't know anything about the law...but if he gets them half the time does that mean he doesn't have to pay? It might be as simple as that...
According to latest ROL, Jon is still unemployed. Are they fact-checking, or just putting out there whatever they feel like at the moment?
ITA, Kate is a twit. Kate despises Jon for stopping the gravy train so she would never do anything for him that would help him financially unless she wanted something in return. If she did suspend CS, then he must have agreed to something.
I only saw on Gosselinbook blog a reference to his book "coming out soon", nothing about this month. But something is up for sure. The contradictory ROL/Star articles were leaked for some reason. Right now, I doubt either one is factual.
Jon Gosselin isn't listed as working at Gameface Sports anymore!
I can't believe that Kate, the money-lover, would ever relieve Jon of child support unless there was something in it for her.
I only saw on Gosselinbook blog a reference to his book "coming out soon", nothing about this month.
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Robert posted on here that it was coming out in August.
TLC stinks said... 119
Gosselinbook posted here that it would be coming out this month. Comment 185 on the first page of this thread.
"The Lane deal is such a minor blip on the radar of this project which will be released in August
KT can't drop child support. Only the courts can do that as per future payments. The backlog will stay there forever. Jon is no match for KT. I hope he doesn't fall for any of her promises.
As a grandmother, I do have the option of not asking for CS, which I don't because I know it would just cause a riff in an otherwise good relationship with my son's dad. But a parent does not have an option.
I noticed one of the Jackson's owes $500,000 in back child support that he asked the estate to pay and they refused. It is all a part of the ongoing feud over Michael's estate.
TJ said... 120
Jon Gosselin isn't listed as working at Gameface Sports anymore!
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I asked about this yesterday but don't think there was a response. Was he ever listed on their website?
Kate is a twit said... 116
If Kate relieved Jon of child support, it was because she wanted something else from Jon. It reminds me of when TLC dropped their lawsuit against Jon so he would allow the kids to film again.
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Isn't it the court that has authority over child support? I agree, though, if Jon's no longer paying it, it's because Kate wants something. And she must want it bad because we all know how much she loves $$$$.
According to Kate's attorney, he is relieved of all current and FUTURE obligations. That means that if he lands a high-paying job, he still doesn't have to pay. I find this very hard to believe unless she was backed into a corner about something.
Isn't it the court that has authority over child support?
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Yes, if no agreement can be reached by the parents. However, if she agrees to sign off on child support, the court can't step in and dictate a mandatory child support obligation.
The ROL article says Jon no longer has to pay child support, with Kate's blessing. That doesn't sound right to me..she just let him off the hook and got nothing in return? I doubt that. He probably has to provide free child care for her many trips with Steve, or something like that.
http://www.locallivingmag.com/2012/07/jon-after-8/
This online article appeared for their July, 2012 issue.
Quotes from Jon:
Gosselin says he has no hard feelings toward TLC or the production team. He says he simply wanted to quit a job that he no longer enjoyed, and the decision cost him.
“I lost millions,” he says. “I wanted my freedom.”
Gosselin says he doesn’t regret the decision to do reality TV. If the kids decide they want to do another show, Gosse¬lin says they have to ask him first – but he’s unlikely to say no.
For the future, Gosselin plans on writing a second book on parenting as a single father. His first book is a biography about his life experiences from the time his children were born.
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So there you go. It's ok if the kids film again. Explains his relevations in June that he and Kate are getting along. And Kate drops the CS around the same time.
KT can't drop child support.
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It recently happened to a friend of mine. Her son's dad was having problems paying child support, she has an excellent job and received all proceeds from the sale of some property. She saw how much he was struggling to the point of possible eviction from his apartment. She went to court and dropped child support payments. Agreement was by both parties. It wasn't a simple process, but that's what happened.
Her dumb sheep are having a field day with this on twitter. Making Kate more of a victim then she already is to them. "Poor Kate..has to raise the kids all by herself...Jons a bum..Kates so strong to do this all alone'...etc.etc.etc......Why do I feel like this is benefiting Kate some how?
Either Gameface has not updated their web site or Mike Moyer is the Director of Sales and Promotions.
Jane, Yes about a month ago I checked and he was listed there under sales and marketing and as a contact for Gameface Sports
Jon Gosselin @jongosselin1
Just left Philly Style magazine party at Vie, good food and drink, thx for invite, heading back to good ole Reading, PA 4 Scotti Mann at RRH
TLC stinks@130...theres only one thing wrong with that theory....there is no show for the kids and probably never will be again. Unless there was something concrete in the works...I don't see her giving up CS because of that...
Oh, Anonymous, you are too funny. My point was, no matter what you have, there is always someone out there with more/better/newer/shinier/. You get over it. Bragging about "stuff" has no place on a blog that is supposedly written for people who are trying to save money. Buy 3 cars? Put in a pool? Watch TV on a leather couch? On a coupon blog? Doesn't belong there. You don't rub it in to people who are reading said blog for tips on how to stretch a dollar, which is what Kate does. However, if you think that's okay for Kate, but nobody else, then I'll defer to your opinions. The rules don't apply to your exalted Kate, after all, now do they?
Regarding my education, I have a Bachelor's degree and I'm working on my second Master's. And yet, I still forget to spell check sometimes. Go figure.
By the way, the items I mentioned were all wedding gifts. I didn't pay for them, so don't start stressing about my wealth, or lack thereof. Thanks for your concern, though!
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Jane, Yes about a month ago I checked and he was listed there under sales and marketing and as a contact for Gameface Sports
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Hmmmm...perhaps he's working elsewhere. I hope so.
If Jon is in arrears, and has until the 27th to pay up, failing to pay that may be what might cause him to go to jail.
If his quotes are genuine, he may be worried about paying the final amount he owes, particularly if he's out of work again.
Those arrears may be what the "Jon" article refers to, not on-going child support.
The "Kate" article doesn't necessarily contradict that. It says that Jon is off the hook for future child support payments, not for past ones.
Kate's lawyer may be dancing around a little bit here, to make Kate appear more *cough* saintly.
The two ROL articles do not necessarily contradict each other.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 81
Supporting and encouraging Kate in WHAT? She doesn't DO anything.
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lol, admin. I thought the same thing. What she does need support for, though, are the "girls" that are now located in very close proximity to her belly button!
I agree Kate's home does no look welcoming and cozy despite her expensive furnishings. It looks cold and un-lived in. She does not know how to arrange a room or decorate. But I wouldn't care if she didn't put herself out there as better than others who are 'mediocre' and that her children deserve life served on a 'golden' platter. Her lack of class is obvious. But I don't really care how much money someone has.One thing I despise is snobbery.
I think Layla's post was an exaggeration to make her point about Kate- otherwise I'm afraid I agree it came across as snooty- but I hope that wasn't her intention.
So Jon is under contract still with Gameface?
KAT, I do think this theory still applies. Kate probably thought she was a shoe-in for DWTS and thus would get her dating show. Of course, the kids would get to meet her new man each week on TV. That would be the hook for fans to tune in and she knew she needed the kids involved, and any network interested would have insisted on that. I have no doubt that Jon and Kate worked out some agreement in June: he would not protest them filming, and Jon would get financial relief from CS.
My guess...as long as we are playing this game...is: back in April Kate was convinced that DWTS was going to happen, that a network was going to pick up her dating show idea (the sealed with a kiss in the mail thing) and she told Jon she would release him of CS is he would sign off letting the kids film in the future. She is so convinced of her "stah" quality that she gambled with the devil and lost.
Dwindle, hang in there. I had been unemployed since October. Yesterday, I was offered a job at my old school taking care of the chemistry stockroom. Its not what I want to be doing and the pay sucks. But, its a state job and its a foot in the door for other state jobs.
Will your husband be getting unemployment? If he is denied the first time, make sure to file an appeal. Many people get unemployment through appeal. Also, have your husband go to work force services. They do have great people there. They can help with interview skills, resumes, and finding jobs to apply for. If he has any sort of disability including ADHD, learning disability, emotional disability or physical disability, have him go to the office of vocational rehabilitation. They will also give him help finding a job. They can also provide him with tools to help him work. I got hearing aids from them, an OCR pen, and a tablet.
Talk to your employer, see if you can take on other shifts to bring some more money in to the house pot.
Above all, stay positive. Good things will come your way.
Wowser, great minds think alike!
Adm, here's an idea for a new thread ~
From an article about Rielle Hunter on Celebitchy this morning:
"Or maybe she could get a dating show with Kate Gosselin. Men would compete to stay single and get off the show, and two who are left would have to fight to see who ends up with Kate instead of Rielle. It could be called “Lesser of Two Evils.”
PRICELESS.
Milo is happily foaming at the mouth over this latest revelation. I never thought it would be possible, but it's taken her love for Kate to a whole new level!
What did milo tweet? I can't see it
I really don't think someone like Jon who is a lot more grounded than Kate and not delusional thinks they're going to get another show.
I've always thought he said that to keep the peace with Kate. Sure Kate they can have another show. When they get a show and Jon signs off on it, I'll change my opinion.
Hmmm...maybe Jon's interview where he apologized to Kate, and also called her a "great mom" was also part of the deal for the dropping of child support.
Kate's lawyer said "“Kate and Jon talked and worked through all of these issues and she withdrew the child support.”
Working through these issues, is just another way of saying Jon and Kate made a deal. Jon gave in to Kate's demands in order to not pay child support.
Wow...if you guys are right about her thinking she needed the kids for her own show...that would be a really stupid move on her part. Is she really that egotistical that she just assumed she would have a show? They are such a bunch of idiots...they both belong in jail if you ask me..I'm sure theres been a crime commited somewhere in the last 8 years..
I don't know anything about the law...but if he gets them half the time does that mean he doesn't have to pay? It might be as simple as that...
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I haven't asked anyone about this, but BINGO.
It's not like Jon isn't supporting them, he supports them when they are with him and he may have made an agreement to pay tuition and other expenses.
I think the big problem Jon is probably having with child support is cutting checks only to watch KAte spend them on herself. If he just made arrangements to pay for the kids directly, that would make anyone feel more comfortable.
Her demands are backfiring on her...no one will hire her or her kids ever again. Karma..here it comes...think I'll go make some popcorn..
Twittering And Twatteriing said... 147
Milo is happily foaming at the mouth over this latest revelation. I never thought it would be possible, but it's taken her love for Kate to a whole new level!
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Good grief! Just wandered over to Twazzup and read the feed. Milo's been out in the sun too long, or needs her meds adjusted!
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@Kateplusmy8 No...we probably would be shocked 2learn how bad it all is! Kate gets my support & vote 4Mom of the year after this!
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@kateplusmy8 She has the kids 2care for 26of30days every month!! And still work secularly as well!
I don't think Kate would do anything to help Jon not even if it helped the kids it's.
Rather it be trying to lower his CS in court or trying to give him more time with the kids.
But if she did it would be at her own benefit
-Jon gets more time with the kids.
-She get more time to do her thing.
She tries to lower his CS payments or get them reduced.
-She can bitch and complain on twitter how hard it is to be a single hardworking mom of 8.
Wait didn't someone here say they just checked online at his child support? If he were relieved of it would it still be showing up online?
Something doesn't add up. Besides it's not Kate who can relieve him of it it's the court.
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive."
No doubt we will find out very soon what is going on here as the web finally begins to unravel. Both Jon and Kate seem very disheartened. I suspect it has to do with the book and the revelation of their scam.
I do feel badly for Jon, because he has really tried to remake himself, but past (and possibly current) choices are haunting him, and I would guess cause some self-destructive behavior to crop up from time to time.
As for Kate, I try to feel sorry for her, but her heart is pure black, so it's very difficult. Since I've taken an interest in the family, though, I feel that praying for all of them is the least - and probably all - that I can do, and I truly hope she can change.
I have a friend who actually had many narcissistic qualities, but then she became a Christian and truly embraced all that Christ wanted to do for her. I think that God is the only thing that truly can change such a horrible person into something good, so I pray that Kate finds Jesus. I'm not talking about using Jesus, Kate, as you've been doing for a long time now, but finding HIM and letting Him do what He needs to do with you. I hope Jon finds Him, too.
Admin, Can we do a tasty Thursday post so we can gear up for a weekend full of good healthy food? I love Altin Browns lentil Salad. Its the perfect thing to make for hot days.
Kate's lawyer said:
"Those payments will soon end meaning that Kate is the sole supporter of the parties’ children.”
What a self-serving statement. Just because he doesn't pay CS, doesn't mean he isn't supporting them. Does Kate pay for all the expenses Jon entails when he does have the children? Does Kate pay his rent so the kids have a place to stay when they are with him?
She also said "Kate’s attorney defended her, saying that she has no hard feelings toward her unemployed ex-husband"
Then why does she continue to throw him under the bus?
She just had to put that in there so that Kate comes out smelling like a rose. Unfortunately, we all know better.
Even though Kate probably won't get a TV show with her kids anytime soon, I have to believe that in several years an update show would be in order. It may not be from TLC, but I think there would be a high audience that would likely tune in to see the tups in junior high and the twins in high school. And of course, to see how Kate looks. Keep in mind most people don't look at websites that carry her & the kids photos.
I think unfortunately there may be an update one time TV show before then.
In the state of NJ if you have custody half the time there is no CS for either party. I remember Admin. saying Jon got more custody of the kids so in reality that would make the most sense. I know all that speculation is fun but thats pobably what is going on Remember around that time, Kate was making lemonade out of lemons?...Thank Admin. for answering my question..
If she is sharing custody..she is NOT the sole supporter of the kids. They are equal in their support. That is such BS..SHE IS SUCH A LOW LIFE BITCH
Everything I'm reading from PA says it's a state where child support generally cannot be waived because you can't bargain away something that is not in a child's best interest. However if you waived an "official" child support order but provided other informal ways to provide for the kids--like you'll send him the utility bill and tuition bill every month or something, I bet they would allow that.
“Parties to a divorce action may bargain between themselves and structure their agreement as best serves their interests, . . . They have no power, however, to bargain away the rights of their children, . . . Their right to bargain for themselves is their own business. They cannot in that process set a standard that will leave their children short. Their bargain may be eminently fair, give all that the children might require and be enforceable because it is fair. When it gives less than required or less than can be given to provide for the best interest of the children, it falls under the jurisdiction of the court’s wide and necessary powers to provide for that best interest. . . . [The parties bargain] is at best advisory to the court and swings on the tides of the necessity that the children be provided.” Kraisiner v. Kraisiner 928 A.2d 333 (Pa.Super. 2007) (citing Knorr v. Knor, 527 Pa. 83 (1901)).
Summerwind what state? Looks like you can't do that in PA and in many states.
Before Kate puts out a story like this she might want to read a few law-ish books to see if that's even legal on PA. Since apparently it's not.
My, my, my... Interesting stuff.
Admin, since family law is a specialty, how does this work? Can Kate petition the court to relieve Jon of child support? Or is it more likely that the court was granting Jon more visitation and the child support calculator adjusted things so he was barely paying anything so Kate threw up her hands and said "screw it"?
It also could be that they were starting to dance into the territory of Kate having to pay Jon which is why she dropped it.
Having not see this Star article, I will give Jon the benefit of the doubt until I see whether he is directly quoted or this is from a "source".
What Jon could have been referring to was a fear that because he is unemployed he can't pay rent and will lose his house. If he loses his house, he can't take the kids overnight. If he can't take the kids overnight he loses his visitation and the child support calculator puts him back to owing child support.
You know, if Jon just hadn't gone public with his twitter and done all those interviews, if he'd just stayed quiet he wouldn't be feeling the backlash he's getting right now.
Both of them need to go away. Period, end of statement. Shame on both of them for airing their dirty laundry for the world to see.
Would Kate really let her children's father to go to jail? That would cause sever emotional damage & affect her own relationship with her kids. Could she be that cruel, whatever the law says?
Sillimom see my post above with another case. Here's another. Nice try Kate, PA is clearly a "no waiver" state.
In Blizzard v. Mehaffie, Mother and Father, who both lived in Maryland, had a child. In 2000, Mother and Father entered into a custody agreement because Mother was going to marry a third-party who planned on adopting the child. The agreement explicitly released the Father’s obligation to pay support for the child. The third party never ended up adopting the child and later the Mother and the third party divorced. Mother then moved to Pennsylvania and, because her financial circumstances had changed, she sought child support in Adams county. Mother was awarded support, which Father contested. He based his appeal on his waiver in the Maryland agreement. The Court of Common Pleas in Adams county held that the agreement, which was formed under Maryland law, was contrary to established Pennsylvania public policy and therefore our system would not give the Maryland agreement “full faith and credit.” Thus, Father is required to pay Mother child support to aid in the care of the child.
Summerwind what state? Looks like you can't do that in PA and in many states.
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One of my friends has an alternative child support agreement with his ex. He pays for his daughters rodeo stuff including horse care, entry fees and clothing. All of this done with a court assigned negotiator. He calculated it out and he pays more then child support this way but, his daughter loves it. Both him and his ex love watching her practice and preform so its a win win situation.
I doubt Jon and Kate have some sort of agreement like this though. My gut feeling is that this is the exception. Jon and Kate are not on the best of terms. Kate will always think that Jon owes more. A good example of this is when she complained that his child support did not cover lunches.
Andrea I love that idea and they'll let you do that I guess. I think one of the problems with child support in PA is there is no accountability. Kate can go out and spend it on hair and makeup and tanning and doesn't owe anyone an explanation.
If I were Jon I would much rather just have the bills forwarded to me and I'll pay directly.
I drink my iced tea from a mason jar
A fan's tweet:
"I love how @Kateplusmy8 doesn't sit around waiting 4 life 2 get easier. She always trys 2 create the best experiences 4 her kids. #loveher"
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin
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Good grief. These fans aren't wearing rose-coloured glasses...they're wearing blinders! ...and Kate is soaking it all up.
I took Layla's comment as calling out Kate (again) on her horrendous hypocrisy and ignorance. Kate sets herself up as an arbitrator of taste, wealth, some kind of "class" or refinement, but has no clue about any of those things.
Worse, she has no idea how her "fans" or, for that matter, most of her fellow citizens, live. (Either "mediocre" people, or wealthy ones who don't spend like the fool she is.)
Layla made a good point. Kate strives to be part of something she doesn't understand, and knows nothing about. Layla made it clear that she does know the difference.
You don't have to admire gossipy women (the ones Layla said would chew Kate up and spit her out) to realize that Layla is correct in pointing out that a group Kate thinks she's part of would recognize Kate as a tasteless pretender in a minute. Kate hasn't got a clue.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 156
Wait didn't someone here say they just checked online at his child support? If he were relieved of it would it still be showing up online?
Something doesn't add up. Besides it's not Kate who can relieve him of it it's the court.
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Didn't it state in the ROL story that Jon has an outstanding amount from before the agreement that he is slowly paying off?
I agree with Just for the Record. We've said it here many times, this is not how the rich or even upper middle class really live. It's not an elitist thing, it's just the fact of the matter. Kate is a poser and has never taken the time to really pay attention to how the other half lives other than a few TV shows that aren't accurate. In many ways, it's a manifestation of her laziness. She wants the money but doesn't want to spend a lot of time learning how such money is wisely spent by people. In any case if it offended you, ignore it or say so in a respectful manner.
Andrea I love that idea and they'll let you do that I guess.
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This is in Utah. The parents have always had their daughters best interest in mind. They worked hard to become friends after they divorced. Rodeos are a big part in both of their families history. I think thats part of the reason the judge agreed to it. I think the other reason is because the parents are willing to make this agreement work. My friend and his ex meet with someone from the court at the beginning of the year. They go over what clothing and equipment needs to be purchased. They go over the cost of horse care and they decided what Rodeos the girl will attend. My friend then has to provide documentation proving that he is sticking to the agreement and paying for all of the things that were agreed upon.
I agree with you, If I were Jon, then I would want to pay off specific bills instead of handing money over to Kate. Or, I would want to put the money into a trust and make Kate justify expenses before money could be withdrawn.
Ah Milo is, as you say, really lapping from the Koolaid pond. In what month has Kate EVER had the chidren 26/30 days alone, and what does Milo think she 'works securly' at exactly? Bye Kate, enjoy NYC, hope the Skeevester can sell a few photos of you to those rags you are apparently planting nonsnse rumors in this week. Hope it all bites you in the ass big time, and soon.
I don't do twitter but could someone who does straighten out those jackass fans of hers They're nominating her for sainthood at this very moment.. It's just ridiculous. I know this is either about custody or instead of CS he is paying directly for things. They are wiping her flat ass big time. Kate will never do it..she loves to fool those idiots
Once a Viewer said... 141
I agree Kate's home does no look welcoming and cozy despite her expensive furnishings. It looks cold and un-lived in. She does not know how to arrange a room or decorate. But I wouldn't care if she didn't put herself out there as better than others who are 'mediocre' and that her children deserve life served on a 'golden' platter. Her lack of class is obvious. But I don't really care how much money someone has.One thing I despise is snobbery.
I think Layla's post was an exaggeration to make her point about Kate- otherwise I'm afraid I agree it came across as snooty- but I hope that wasn't her intention.
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Once, thank you! Yes, it was meant to be a snark at Kate's habit of constantly shoving all of her possessions down people's throats, when she's being paid to help them save money. If anyone objects, they're "jellus". If anyone has anything more, they're pretentious snobs. Either way, Kate is always wonderful and correct, and the rest of us are always wrong. Good grief, talk about double standards! Advocating having 3 cars (for 1 driver) on a coupon blog? Bragging about how much money it saves her to have her own pool? Sorry, no, that's not okay.
For the record, I garden, can, freeze, clip coupons, run around the house flipping off lights, cook and bake to keep from eating out, and rule the thermostat with an iron fist. I follow blogs about frugality (I love thefrugalgirl.com) and use the tips I get from them. I don't read them to hear about how much money I'm wasting by not having a pool.
"Father is required to pay Mother child support to aid in the care of the child."
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Yes, but if Mother had agreed to waiver child support, when Father pays Mother, as required by the Court, Mother can take the money and give it right back to the Father.
For the record, I garden, can, freeze, clip coupons, run around the house flipping off lights, cook and bake to keep from eating out, and rule the thermostat with an iron fist. I follow blogs about frugality (I love thefrugalgirl.com) and use the tips I get from them. I don't read them to hear about how much money I'm wasting by not having a pool.
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Have you heard of grocerysmarts.com They will match coupons with sale items at a bunch of local grocery stores? I use coupons to stock up a small supply of paper products and personal care items. I sometimes use coupons for snacks. But, most of my cooking is from scratch. It costs less and its more healthy. I have had to cut down on the amount of meat I use. Its just too expensive right now. I keep the pantry stocked with lentils and beans, so there is always a protein source available.
I am just getting into canning. We dont have any produce to can yet (its spring in oregon not summer) but I did do some lovely chicken stock last weekend. I got the parts from a local farm at $2.50 a lb. Its organic but not certified organic. The farm can not justify the cost.
Yes, but if Mother had agreed to waiver child support, when Father pays Mother, as required by the Court, Mother can take the money and give it right back to the Father.
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If the courts find out about that, you could be in trouble for defrauding the system and violating a court child support order.
Also are we talking about the same Kate?
So Kate's attorney carefully crafts this to ROL:
"I read Jon’s statement on RadarOnline.com and was quite surprised to read that he claims to be struggling to keep his child support payments current. As of April 27, 2012, Kate voluntarily relieved Jon of all current and future child support obligations for their eight children," she said.
I see what you are saying, Admin. There is no mention that he will be paying any of the children's bills directly.
Apparently he is still paying off what he owed prior to April, 27. It would be interesting to follow a timeline as to why in the world Kate would be so generous to Jon. He went to court and got the CS reduced anyway, so why throw him this bone? See, I really think those two made a deal because he comes out in June with the apology and how Kate is a great mom. Unless Jon denies the Star/ROL stories, he is in cahoots with Kate, IMO.
Funny how the agreement to drop the child support came on April 27, 2012 and Kate went on The Today Show on May 22. Remember how she was suppose to talk about CC's new app but she talked non-stop about how the kids want to film again. And how she and Jon have been getting along great now.
I posted then I thought that this was Kate's way to let all those TV producers that Jon would not be a problem in filming the kids. No doubt when she talked with producers in months passed they all brought up the big problem TLC had with Jon in filming the kids.
I don't think it was a coincidence the timing of the two events of Kate dropping the child support and Jon allowing filming**. Perhaps a network mentioned doing an one-time update and thought Jon may prevent it.
** Now that the Local Living magazine quotes him, "Gosselin says they have to ask him first – but he’s unlikely to say no."
On another note, how are Kate allow this attorney of hers Cheryl Young to discuss this with Radaronline. Really Kate? You're despicable.
Parental alienation also comes in the form of allowing your attorney to duke it out with the father of your children in the court of Radaronline.
What is it about these clowns that makes them think that ANY of this should be anything but strictly private?
TLC Stinks the only problem is according to case law Pennsylvania doesn't allow you to make "deals."
I think Kate's attorney is conveniently leaving out that either Jon has custody a lot more and as sillimom said is approaching 50-50, or she is conveniently leaving out that they have an arrangement where Jon is paying expenses directly. Anything else is contrary to Pennsylvania law. What a tool.
Andrea maybe Jon threatened to blow the whistle on all the ways Kate has misspent their money including his child support. He hinted the other day about how she needs to stop spending. Maybe he insisted she better let him start paying for these kids directly and stop dipping into his child support for her tri-weekly jaunts to NYC.
I have a vague memory of someone mentioning on this blog that Kate and Jon were spotted having lunch together at a local restaurant. The poster said they appeared to be nice to each other.
I'm sorry I can't remember anything more than that. I am wondering if at that meeting (2-3 months ago) that they weren't working out a "deal" for both of them.
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Thanks- two actual useful savings blogs. Layla, I'm glad you posted again. I knew that was what you meant. :)
As I have said before, we could make a great savings blog right here on 15 MGS ,pooling all our tips. I've learned so much on this forum & 'met' some lovely people who are always willing to help one another. Kate is useless.
Oh, and she talked about her 'paperwork' again- that really grates on my nerves!!
Maggie, ITA. All of a sudden Jon and Kate are getting along. And weren't they spotted locally having breakfast somewhere? Like around the time Kate came out that the twins may be going on the cruise?
Oops. That's 'actually' above. Don't want Anon to question my use of English & educational status. We all make typos, big deal.
Admin, I think they did make a deal but wrapped it up with a legal bow per PA law.
The Shrew could have agreed to a LUMP SUM as payoff and then had the Support stopped. Friend of mine and his ex just agreed to this and he is free and clear forever now.
What is everyone thoughts on the article on ROL that she said Jon doesn't have to pay support anymore, anyone buying that. I think she is now playing the pity card see I am raising my kids on my own no help from their father, now you see why I need to get back on tv. Real odd time all this stuff is coming up she must really be scared about something
Khate was just brought up on HOT TOPICS by Sherri. They were talking about how people get fired, and act like they have other interests (Ann Curry, Stephen Tyler) vs people that act like they are too busy (Kate - they quoted as being "relieved" she wasn't asked to be on DWTS All-Stars. Not believed by her "friends" at The View) to be involved.
They could have made a deal but it would have to be court approved and in the best interest of the children, according to PA law.
I have no problem with a deal as long as the children are not screwed, as it should be. I don't see anything inherently shady about a deal, I don't see Kate being a martyr or Jon trying to weasel his way out of something, in a state that simply won't allow such a thing.
re: Kate's nasty quip about Pam Anderson being the only contestant "not a finalist." Did she ignore the fact that Pam toured with one of the DWTS traveling troupe? KaTE AND Pam were not BFF. Pam depended upon ability and hard work. Kate stated that she would charm them [the judge?
KAT said... 151
Wow...if you guys are right about her thinking she needed the kids for her own show...that would be a really stupid move on her part. Is she really that egotistical that she just assumed she would have a show? They are such a bunch of idiots...they both belong in jail if you ask me..I'm sure theres been a crime commited somewhere in the last 8 years..
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Kat, Kate's mastermind plan was to have a show(s) until the tups' late teen years.
I'm sure alot of unsavory stuff was committed by both parents.
I just have a sick feeling that they are going to toss the blame to their children for their (albeit poor) decisions.
As a matter of fact, anyone remember the episode where the entire family went out for breakfast? In a voice over, Jon mentioned something about his hope that their kids will understand everything their parents did, it was done for them?...
So now my question is, why did Jon go to Star, if he actually did? Was this the first part of a publicity stunt for Kate, or is she backing out if their deal because showbiz is not working out for her and Jon is pissed? Robert, if you are reading here, any insights? Are we off base? Is Star just a load of cr#%?
I think Kate's attorney is conveniently leaving out that either Jon has custody a lot more and as sillimom said is approaching 50-50, or she is conveniently leaving out that they have an arrangement where Jon is paying expenses directly.
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If that's true, and he has more custody and pays directly then he needs to make a statement as such. I agree that his keeping quiet as been to his benefit, but since this can of worms has been opened, he needs to set the record straight that she is not the sole support of these kids.
Otherwise, Milo is going to be renting two rooms at her facility -- one for herself, and one for the shrine she is setting up for Kate.
"If the courts find out about that, you could be in trouble for defrauding the system and violating a court child support order."
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How is that fraud? He pays you child support and you give him money. Is a law that prohibits an ex-wife from giving money to her ex-husband?
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