Any kid would be so lucky to go to a 16-1 school ratio. That's way below what lots of schools do. It's unnecessary to fork over that much money just to get something smaller than that when that's already decently small.
Yes, it looks like Kate took the twins with her. By looking at pictures of her, it looks like Deanna did her makeup, so maybe they got to hang out with her.
Jason Backe@JasonHueman @Kateplusmy8 it was so fun to meet your girls!!! Awesome kids!!! And ps you look freakin amazing! Xoxo 12:39 PM - 4 Aug 12
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8 @JasonHueman omg I was JUST abt2 tweet u a delayed 'omg thanku agn'.U read my mind-scary:) They had SO much fun&r still talking abt it! 12:42 PM - 4 Aug 12
She could also have taken all the girls(not just the twins), and the "icky" boys were with Jon.
About KK's father being in the military -- if you're old enough you know that virtually every able-bodied young man was drafted at 18, or entered voluntarily where they had some choice in their training, and was in for 3 years. I'm sure there were some deferments but it was that way until the 70's (I believe) when it went to an all voluntary system. So yes, Mr. Kreider could have been in the military for a minimum of 3 years.
I think it might have been just the twins. The shopping spree, as mentioned, the special treatment they get in Kate's boudoir, all the tweets. They are def the Golden Girls for now!In a way it's their turn, as Mady especially noted the special treatment of the tups early on, but what are the six thinking? :(
7m Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8 @TootyTa @NoraSaysNo nope. Just talking about products I believe in and love...Don't we all? I like tooting horns of comps who deserve it! ************************************************ "I like tooting horns of comps who deserve it!". Translated Katespeak is: I like tooting my horn for the comps I get because I deserve them! if I don't mention the @company's name how will they know to comp me things?!
To me, CO is the abbreviation for company and when you comped something you're getting it for free. (purely snark sheeple so don't get your panties in a bunch over abbreviations.)
I just hope it doesn't create division and resentment between the Tups and the twins when they are separated out like this so much. On the other hand the Tups probably didn't have the slightest interest in going to some conference in NYC.
I also don't believe for a second Kate didn't collect swag. How can she deny she doesn't? She's gotten so many freebies over the years. Is she denying all the cash money and furniture she got for Lane? She just likes to support Lane out of the goodness of her heart? Like she wants us to think she "relieved" Jon of support out of the goodness of her heart? Kate only does things that benefit Kate.
Mary Carillo just reported that Prince William and Kate were offered seats in the royal box at the tennis match but declined, opting to sit with the rest of the fans and do the wave and things.
I know someone who is a facebook friend with the mother of the girl who saw Jon & the kids last weekend. She said all 8 kids were there with Jon. And it appeared they had a couple friends with them. I thought it was odd that Kate was tweeting about shopping with the twins. But I suppose they could have gone with her after the park.
Local Park sighting interesting. I've been told Kate loves to exaggerate the time she spends with the kids. One of these days she's going to get caught.
Some people have pointed out that when she tweets things about the kids, she often doesn't suggest that whatever she is talking about that they said or did happened right THEN that day. She is very careful.
Local Park sighting interesting. I've been told Kate loves to exaggerate the time she spends with the kids. One of these days she's going to get caught.
Some people have pointed out that when she tweets things about the kids, she often doesn't suggest that whatever she is talking about that they said or did happened right THEN that day. She is very careful.
1. Gosselin book coming out this month 2. Tweeter named @laurasvec posts positive tweets about Kate 3. @laurasvec is "still doing PR" 4. Robert Hoffman breaks story about Lane Furniture contract 5. Stories posted on Star and Radar are both unflattering to Jon and put Kate in positive light 6. Kate thanks her followers and tells them how much she loves them
Anyone else see what I see? Kate is feeling threatened by what is in Gosselin Book and is taking a preemptive strike for what she feels is about to threaten her last grip on any possibility of stardom. Feel free to add your observations to my list.
Kate's head must be close to exploding with all the "you look freakin amazing!!" comments coming her way. I sure would like to see her in person to make my own personal assessment. To look so beautiful and not have anyone to appreciate it is such a waste of all that effort that goes in to her appearance. Somewhere out there someone has to be getting close to taking take that fat-head and her 8 kids on. (I don't like to assume Steve is her lover until I know the facts).
Kate is really pushing these dang Bella Bars. I tasted one. It was okay, but I wasn't about to go orgasmic over it. It tasted like cold cream of wheat held together with a dab of school glue (yes, I've tasted school glue a long time ago. You never forget the taste). The coating tasted a bit synthetic. If I were starving, I'd probably eat one. It seems to be an acquired taste.
Would I ever have a melt-down if I didn't have a supply in my pantry? Heck, no! I'd never even order a box. There are so many good nutritional bars out there that taste good at a fraction of the cost.
Kate's head must be close to exploding with all the "you look freakin amazing!!" comments coming her way. I sure would like to see her in person to make my own personal assessment. To look so beautiful and not have anyone to appreciate it is such a waste of all that effort that goes in to her appearance. Somewhere out there someone has to be getting close to taking take that fat-head and her 8 kids on. (I don't like to assume Steve is her lover until I know the facts).
Amy2 said... 5 Modern Vounteer Army started July 1, 1973.
If you google Kate's father by name, it appears he was born around 1948, and would have been 19 in 1967, so military experience makes sense. (no I didn't save the link - look for yourself).
I think Kate looks like a 'working girl'- ironic, since she doesn't work- but you know what I mean. But she looks ok, a bit scrawny, oversized boobs, bleached dead hair, overly tanned, wrinkles and sags, horrid wardrobe, fake smile...but ok. If I met her as a 'normal' person I would think these things but judge her as an ok looking gal with poor taste and habits. I'd judge her on her personality.
But the reason all these physical things are so repugnant is because she is vain, shallow, phoney- and she spends the kids' money on said hair, clothing, tan, mani/pedi, teeth etc in excess which makes me ill.
Leave the kids out of it? Do they not understand by making comments like real men support their children they are parental alienating Jon and hurting the kids? Do they not understand the kids adore him?
miloandjack @Kateplusmy8 U know Kate..if U had this #dream as a child..U could have been an Olympian! U have the drive, discipline & passion 2do it! :)
Kate could have been in the Olympics? As WHAT? A grifter? Yes, Milo, she'd bring home the gold for that!
"K8isGr8 did say some rude things about the kids' looks etc not related to custody or Jon"
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I thought it was LuvmyKeurig who is making some very nasty remarks about the kids. Yes, they are very rude and uncalled for. Milo has set herself up as the Great Protector. She may be on duty until Lights Out Man makes his rounds at the home. Kate can't take care of herself unless Milo is there standing watch.
She is right no one should say such vile things, that's really awful. She needs to also realize what she says is detrimental too. If she can recognize it another she is capable.
Kate is a twit said... 29 For once, I agree with Milo. That tweeter is saying some very cruel and obnoxious things about the kids
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For once, I agree with Milo. That tweeter is saying some very cruel and obnoxious things about the kids
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I think it's a sheeple. They pull these things from time to time. They'll bash the kids, or Jon and make up stories just to see if the haters agree with them. Then they step back and call out the haters for criticizing the kids. Nothing would surprise me.
I remember the dog story. A sheeple said here that Kate's dog was without food and water and nobody was home. Law enforcement was sent to check. The whole thing was made up, and the sheeple retreated to their barnyards and laughed about the non-fans here taking the bait.
Kate knows who to block. She doesn't need Milo's help.
And get a room, if you haven't done that already. One of the other sheeple, who has tweeted to Kate about how they have to get together and chat about something, keeps pestering for Kate's address. I think she wants to send a book for her to sign. If you're such good friends, couldn't she call her and ask for her address, or wouldn't she have it already?
These sheeple are amusing, aren't they? Good entertainment!
And it's wrong to be very concerned about a dog's welfare because? It's pathetic they would laugh about this. People did the RIGHT thing calling. It's not worth taking a chance.
What's disturbing is they feel no remorse from pulling a cop from his job when there could have been some other emergency he might have been needed at.
What's disturbing is they feel no remorse from pulling a cop from his job when there could have been some other emergency he might have been needed at.
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You have to "consider the source." They have no intelligence to be able to figure that out. They just thought it was funny. There is no remorse when it comes to the sheeple's devotion to Kate. They do what they want to do, when they want to do it.
Twittering And Twatteriing said... 35 Good God, Milo, put a ring on her already.
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These sheeple are amusing, aren't they? Good entertainment!
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They are! It's for that reason, as well as being fascinated by the psychology of this whole Gosselin mishegas (Yiddish for mess) that keeps me returning. I have family arriving from WI tomorrow and, in between the preparations, it's good to be able to sit down with a glass of ice water (the weather in NY is horribly hot and humid) and catch up on the latest.
I appreciate Admin's hard work - there must be days when all 'this' isn't easy.
Kate is a twit said... 39 Jane-if I may ask and you don't have to answer, where on LI do you live? I'm a fellow LIer.
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Oh gosh, not sure I'm comfortable answering here -- that great sheeple sleuth may come after me : ) I guess it's ok to say north shore, Nassau? Another LI-er - cool! Wonder if there are others. We could all meet at a diner and have a snark-fest!
The twitter account that was twittering about the kids has been suspended. When I said I agreed with Milo, I only meant about her telling that person to leave the kids out of it. Not about the rest.
Sometimes I think Kate's sheeple think that Kate is very insecure and helpless and needs their encouragement and devotion to go on. One even stole a quote from "The Help" telling Kate "You are kind, you are smart, you are important".
Those are things you say to people who doubt themselves, not to someone who is supposed to be strong and independent. Being supportive is one thing, but some really lay it on too thick.
But then in the case of the sheeple, they'll say anything to get a tweet from their Queen.
Kate is a twit said... 43 Jane-thanks for answering. I didn't mean for you to be specific, just general area. I'm north shore Suffolk, so we're practically neighbors!
Permanent Name no problem. It's impossible to discuss anything with someone who is deliberately misinterpreting and misstating what was being said. I don't debate things with red herrings. Caw-caw.
Twittering and Twattering in the same vein Jon should tell Admin's "source" to tell Admin he would appreciate it if this blog would stop slamming his children's mother.
Confirmed we talk about both Jon AND Kate's misdeeds here. They are public figures and we don't hold back. We talk about their parenting, their child support, everything.
The difference is when you are tweeting Kate DIRECTLY with slams about Jon, or for that matter tweeting Jon DIRECTLY with slams about Kate, you are inviting that parent to make a public response and further alienate the other. Kate has, on many occasions, responded to such slams against Jon. No one has a right to give Kate, or Jon, an avenue to do that. They are just as guilty as Kate herself is for taking the bait.
One method is a comment about public figures. The other method is being a direct participant in parental alienation. By all means, those sheeple should gather on their own blog and discuss it, I don't have a problem with that. But to interact with either parent directly about the other is wildly inappropriate and detrimental to the children.
And it's wrong to be very concerned about a dog's welfare because? It's pathetic they would laugh about this. People did the RIGHT thing calling. It's not worth taking a chance.
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I actually contacted someone I knew to make sure that the dog was okay. Best to err on the side of caution.
Twittering and Twattering in the same vein Jon should tell Admin's "source" to tell Admin he would appreciate it if this blog would stop slamming his children's mother.
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Use the source as a middleman? Why is that? How do we know that Jon even knows who the source is? If Jon wants anything stopped, he can go to admin himself.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 27 Leave the kids out of it? Do they not understand by making comments like real men support their children they are parental alienating Jon and hurting the kids? Do they not understand the kids adore him? ```````````````````````````````````````````` I hope I am not attacked for saying this but, do you Admin, or the others here ever feel that it is hurting the kids what is said about their mother? The kids love their mother too. I feel guilty at times in what I read. Would it be better for the kids if the blogs and twitters from both sides just be quiet and not say anything bad about either parent?
What if someday we find out we were all wrong about Kate? Jon? Will the kids be angry that this all has caused undue stress for their parents?
The stuff about Kate immediately yelling at new people to block the bullies: if I were a casual user of twitter and didn't know about all Kate's drama, I'd be so confused by that. Who exactly are the bullies? If you don't take a side, you can see people of all stripes acting like bullies on her twitter feed.
Also, what a weird way to welcome people. She's always playing the victim, isn't she?
I was in an abusive situation and it was enormously gratifying to me to hear other people confirm it and to know that I wasn't crazy. I needed someone to understand what I went through and it helped me a lot to know that people did.
I agree with you that the sheeple fail to realize that if it wasn't for the kids no one would know who Kate was. But I will go one step further. It was the tups that originally got Kate on TV. Not all eight. Twins don't make you famous. My mom did it the first time she got pregnant and she didn't need fertility drugs. Kate liked the attention and the rest is history. This is what I don't understand about the sheeple. I can't fathom that someone is that thick that they can't see what the kids did was work and not play. They may have played when the show first started and the early seasons didn't have that many shows but certainly not when the show started getting popular and they started taping more and more shows per season. Someone commented somewhere that it would take hours of taping to make a 30 minute show. And if you don't count the commercials, its a 20 minute show.
All this talk about the middle child makes me wonder if I am considered one even though I never felt like one. Older brother and sister are born, me 18 months later and another brother two years later. So technically, I was the middle pregnancy. I felt we all got treated the same and no one was favored. My younger brother and I did get into more mischief when we got older but I didn't feel like our parents loved us less. We just made them go gray sooner. Ha!
Also, I have to say something about people telling Kate she looks great. No looking your age runs in my family. My Dad will be 79 in September and he is just now starting to look his age. Mom is 74 and she still looks good. Brother and sister are 54. Don't look it. I'm 52 and when I'm out with my four year old grandson, people think he is my son. Younger brother is 50 and he is (not to sound gross) a hottie. I live a healthy lifestyle (exercise, eating properly) but they aren't into it like me and they still look good. I will brag and pat myself on the back and say I look younger than Kate. She is not going to look good when she is 50.
It's the price of celebrity to be talked about - the Gs should have thought of that before accepting the offer to do the show and Kate before she acts/speaks
I'm not sure I understand about the speculation. When I used to watch the show, I thought it was pretty clear that she was cruel, nasty, and heartless. Lots of other people thought so too. It doesn't seem like speculation to me. There's lots of documentation.
I have to follow up on not looking your age running in my family. My husband and I went out to lunch with our oldest daughter and her boyfriend last weekend. When we ordered our drinks, she was asked for ID. We all started laughing and the waitress looked at us funny until she saw my daughter's birthdate on her drivers license. She turned 30 in May.
It would be wonderful if we were all wrong about Kate. I would love nothing more than for those kids to have an emotionally stable upbringing and have happy, balanced lives.
Can we find instances where Kate has shown us wrong when she's not tweeting or posing for a picture? Could we put together a montage of Kate being a good parent, loving wife, kind neighbor, interested person? Could locals, former co-workers, school administrators, kids' teachers, etc prove us wrong? Bring it on. I would love to see it. Really.
(This is Remona) Just Me said... 55 ''What if someday we find out we were all wrong about Kate? Jon? Will the kids be angry that this all has caused undue stress for their parents?'' ~~~~ Speaking only for myself, after hour after hour of watching Jon & Kate + 8, I am positive that I'm not wrong about the way Kate treated the kids and Jon. I'm positive that JON did most of the hands on care of the children while Kate ordered him to do this and that and ignored the kids. Kate had no problem behaving that way in front of the cameras, and from the beginning, I worried that if she was that bad in public for the cameras she knew were there, then how bad was she behind closed doors? I know what I saw/heard, so I'm not concerned one little bit that I may be wrong about Kate!! ~~~~~~~~ katiemt said... 58 ''I was in an abusive situation and it was enormously gratifying to me to hear other people confirm it and to know that I wasn't crazy. I needed someone to understand what I went through and it helped me a lot to know that people did.'' ~~~~~ I agree, katiemt!! Remona
I hope the girls had a wonderful time and maybe Jason gave the girls hair cuts?, Deanna, a little make session or spa, shopping? I hope so. Kate did ask Deanna if she was ready for some adventure?
One interesting tweet from Kate, about Jon & paying no CS. Kate tweeted something back like: This is what good moms do for their kids. Don't know if that is a slap to Jon or a good thing.
(This is Remona) katiemt said... 64 ''I'm not sure I understand about the speculation. When I used to watch the show, I thought it was pretty clear that she was cruel, nasty, and heartless. Lots of other people thought so too. It doesn't seem like speculation to me. There's lots of documentation.'' ~~~~~~ I agree. I said the same thing, but you said it best! Remona
Just Me #60, you ask if Jon and Kate would get along better without all of this speculation. I haven't read everyone else's comments yet, but I seriously doubt it.
Kate went public with the problems between her and Jon from the beginning, once it became public. She was on the cover of People multiple times talking about it, going on talk shows talking about it, even addressing it in her couch interviews on her show.
Every time she was bashing Jon, and then started doing it on twitter. She is the one who has continuously kept this a public issue, and therefore, the public is going to comment on it.
Oh Lord it has begun. Yahoo top article is saying Jon is broke and cannot support his kids and everyone is buying into it and railing on him. I wish Jon and Kate would stop talking about money PERIOD. No one needs to know what they have or do not have.
Its also sickening to see everyone believing kate magnanimously offered to absolve Jon of child support. IS no jouralist responsible enough to follow up on that statement to see why he really no longer pays? Ugh. This is the one and only time I wish Jon would speak up and not mention money but instead just say "I am pleased that custody is now a 50/50 even split. I am so happy to have my chilren in my life more" I wouldn't even want him to say that but it pains me to see him bashed on Yahoo and getting kate's name back up there as poor mom of 8 with a deadbeat dad. It's all starting back up again. Someone please get the plunger. This turd will not flush. Kate is a floater for sure.
wish Jon would sue for defamation to some of these rags. I'm all for being silent..but in this case his inaction is screaming guilt in the eyes of the public. Stay silent..but SUE if its incorrect. Make it stop Jon. He needs to make people afraid to slander him for the sake of his kids. It must be hell for those kids to hear so many terrible things about their parents. heck kate too should sue if whats written about her is truly not true.
Instead of chasing limelight and validation of themselves thru the media these 2 should realize they are BOTH considered as tabloid trash. They should try their hardest to STAY OUT OF THE TABLOIDS. THeir kids can see the screaming headlines everytime they go into a store for crying out loud. Do they have enough sense to try and make that stop? How embarassing for the children.
These kids arent Jolie-Pitts who are sheltered and will have clout/power with their last names. These poor kids are Gosselins. The Gosselin name is the butt of national jokes. Clown car vaginas, deadbeat dad, and media whore jokes follow these 2 parents. No one is going to hold back on teasing the G8 becasue their parent s are rich and powerful..Just the opposite..these kids will be openly teased because their parent have zero clout. Why wouldn't a school bully taunt the G8? They are easy picking since their parents' whole life is splashed out there for the media.
The G8 are living in Pennsylvania! Not Hollywood where having a tabloid fodder parent is common. I couldn't imagine living in a semi small town in PA and seeing my parents and siblings splashed on tabloid covers each week. It must be traumatizing now that these kids can read and understand gossip. They honestly can not have one friend in PA who can relate to what they are enduring. I know I have no friends who are tabloid fodder. Can you imagine what it must be like for them? I mean really think about it. What if growing up you were the only kid in school who was in the tabloids?
Everyone knows all the G8 names, who their parents are..who is crying poor this week. Who is sleeping with who. Who is dating a bodyguard..who has braces..who pooped..who is being teased on Leno tonight.
If there was ever a reason to lay low..it should be for the Gosselin 8. These children do not need this embarrassment. And their parents are embarrassing. Yes I like Jon the best..but he sucks at presentation to the media so he should stop talking to them. Both should make their twitter private as well. Yes they have the right to be "normal" and have twitter..but guess what..their lives arent normal. They have bat shit crazy fans and haters. Get off twitter and have some respect for the children who do not deserve to be surrounded by this madness JOn and KAte!!! ITS SHAMEFUL HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIVES IN THE MEDIA.
Jon I know you are trying to do better but its not working. Public opion is bad again ever since you came back out. I know you want to make good money and i know you think media is where it is at..but what is the cost to the kids.
As for kate she is a lost cause but bitch needs to STFU for once in her life. I have never dislked someone i have not met but i earnestly dislike her very much. She is a horrid, teasing, cloying, vapid, spiteful, greedy woman.
I AM SO ANGRY ON BEHLAF OF CARA,MADY,COLIN,JOEL,AADEN,ALEXIA,HANNAH AND LEAH
Yes the ADAM BOMB article WAS derogatory to the children. But IMO this is what they have to look forward to and will have to deal with for the rest of their lives. The children can thank their parents for these kinds of articles.
admin i too notice a lot of "TWINS and KATE" time. Now that the twins are older and easier and finally know how to help kate they are her new besties.
I wonder if now that Jon has 50/50 if kate is guilting the girls into staying with her more while the tups go to Jons. Kate is trying to buy the older girls affections and to keep them parentified by having them take care of Mommy becasue she is "oh so sad that Daddy has taken more custody but doesnt pay money".
A. This is not fair to put this on the twins if it is true. and B It is not fair to the "littles' to see mommy all but dump them now that their ATM's have dried up.
When do we ever hear about kate and the tups out and about doing special things. Its not their fault they are a 6 pack. Take them out in small grupos or alone kate. DAMN
I dont think kate is in a panic over GosselinBook. Her lies have come to light before and she always skates thru. Im sure she belives no one will believe the "lies" juust like in the past. She also knows the sheeple will rabidly defend her. Kate lives in a bubble. I dont think she is all that worried. Sure she may have wanted to stop the book..but i dont think she is quaking in her boots eitehr. Besides the book will keep her name in the media and she can "set the record straight" on a media blitz.
People who grow up in truly abusive homes typically don't realize it unless there is someone outside of the sick family system who intervenes. As we all know, Kate ousted all of those people once they became inconvenient to her and stopped defending the status quo.
It isn't about who got what and who didn't. Some people never get a glimpse outside of their sick family system because, as I already posted, they are repeating their family scripts. When they do get that glimpse, they wonder if they are crazy--as expressed by someone else. I began to realize how abusive my father was when I would drop a casual anecdote from my childhood and was met with startled looks and dropped jaws.
Dissatisfied kids grow up into dissatisfied adults, and, I agree, this does not mean that they were abused--Some people are just put together that way. And I completely agree with the poster who said that every child is born into different circumstances. This is absolutely the case in my family and those are normal variations that are found in every family. The kinds of things that other posters and I are referring to are very hard to describe. Simple words really can't convey the fear and emptiness, and I completely understand when people try to understand using their own family system as a point of reference--if you haven't experienced it, it is unimaginable. As an adult survivor of child abuse, I know it when I see it. And, in Kate, I see it. Her denial, which seems to have taken the form of narcissism, is so massive, it will be an apocalyse if she ever bottoms out. Sad for her and even sadder for her children.
Coincidentally, I am reading a memoir that focuses on a dysfunctional, alcoholic family, that is written with great wit and greater cynicism. It is called "Fiction Killed My Family", by Jeannie Darst. Pretty good portrayal of the kind of chaotic upbringing that I experienced.
ExNurse -- It sounds like you took much of the negative from your past and turned into experience to help others. Professionally and personally, you chose a different path. You are to be admired.
Ex Nurse, I'm so sorry for all you went through as a child. As I detailed on previous threads, I am also an adult survivor of child abuse so I know how it effects us.
However, I respectfully disagree about Kate. I could very well be wrong, but I've never gotten the impression that her actions are because she wa an abused child. She reminds me of the "mean girls" we all knew in school, except they grew out of it. Kate only got worse.
My opinion is that she was catered to and that is why she is so nasty and expects everyone to continuously cater to her. If they don't, they are out of her life because they don't know how to help her.
Also, as a mom, I never left my daughter with the person that inflicted the abuse on me all of those years. However, Kate's parents took care of the twins for weeks when the Kate was hospitalized and the tups were born. Both her and Jon said that on the show. Then after the money and perks started rolling in, she cut her parents out and said that they didn't know how to help them.
It's my opinion that Kate just seems to suck the life out of everyone close to her and when they can give no more, they're out. Once again, this is just my opinion.
Ex Nurse said - "Coincidentally, I am reading a memoir that focuses on a dysfunctional, alcoholic family, that is written with great wit and greater cynicism. It is called "Fiction Killed My Family", by Jeannie Darst. Pretty good portrayal of the kind of chaotic upbringing that I experienced."
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This is by no means criticism or snark, but because I'm interested. Why would you want to read something like this? Wouldn't you want it be part of your past and move on? I understand that it may help you to come to grips with what happened to you, but at the same time, isn't it just an unhealthy reminder of what happened to you?
Also, as a mom, I never left my daughter with the person that inflicted the abuse on me all of those years. However, Kate's parents took care of the twins for weeks when the Kate was hospitalized and the tups were born. Both her and Jon said that on the show. Then after the money and perks started rolling in, she cut her parents out and said that they didn't know how to help them.
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I'm glad you were able to see right away this person was toxic and not let your own kids around them. But it can take some abused children years before they get to that point of recognition and some never will. There are countless adult victims who still see their parents and countless more who didn't cut off their parents until some time had passed.
Kate not cutting off her parents until later doesn't prove or disprove to me any kind of abuse. Only that it took her awhile before she was at the point where she wanted to do that. Kate may be blindsided when some of the children end up estranging her because it might not happen for them at age 18, it may not happen until they are 30 or 35 years old--it can take that long.
Admin, I understand what you are saying. However, I did not cut my mother out of my life. I still saw and spoke with her at family get togethers and my daughter called her grandma. She would take my daughter out for lunch, but I was always there.
My contact with her was minimal. My point was I never let my daughter be alone with her.
My understanding of the rift between Kate and her parents came after the sextuplets were born. The Kreider's church volunteered to ready the house for the expanded family and put out a plea for gently used clothing, furniture, etc. My understanding is that Kate hated the house remodeling and rejected the cribs because they didn't match and the clothes because they were used and not from a hign-end store. Even though a TV show stepped in to complete the remodeling, the Kreider's church was very upset about Kate's dismissal of their work to do something nice for the family. It was about this time that the grandparents seemed to be gone, but Kevin and Jodi stayed.
I must admit, the remodeling was really over the top as far as bright and, well, ugly. But the story was that Kate was not the least bit appreciative of any of it, including the baby items. She and Jon just made a list of the things they didn't get and wanted. Name brands included, I believe.
Others who remember this better, edit this as needed. I admit my memory isn't sharp any more.
LovemyGrandsons I am soooo glad you were able to recognize the safety problem. So many grown adults don't. And part of the reason probably is BECAUSE of the abuse their sense of boundaries has been destroyed.
So true, Admin. Abused children don't know boundaries, even as an adult. A great book that my counselor had me read was titled "Boundaries". It addressed the whole issue and was a big help to me to understand my own issues.
So, she has not answered the direct question about whether she has the kids 50/50 yet, but does in her oh so very carefully worded ways, does not dispute or clarify this person tweet, leading people to believe she did agree for Jon to stop CS payments because she just doing what any good mom would do... " oh my, I am gonna gag!!"
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@Kateplusmy8 You are one incredible woman Kate. I just read what you did 4 John. U R Wonderful! ♥
kateplusmy8 @****** kind words, always appreciated. Just trying to do my best, like ALL moms who love their kids :)
uhm, way past time to stop...Jon tweeted that he was looking forward to going to work on Monday and that they all keep writing and he'll keep working. He doesnt have to tweet to the world what he is or is not doing or whether he is taking tabloids to task..... it is a Tabloid!!! They are like Kate, very good at carefully wording what they say. perhaps that quote was one from 3 years ago, so they technically are not lying. It happens all the time, sad but true!
I’m still not clear on the source for Kate’s alleged abuse as a child, but it seems to be an “alleged” explanation for much of her adult behavior (familial alienation, rigidity with the kids, etc. etc).
How about an alternative explanation for her behavior: Perhaps Kate alienates her family because they didn’t agree with her use/abuse of fertility treatments, or even with her and Jon’s decision to put their family on TV. Maybe some very wise relatives advised against rushing into unnecessary medical interventions (considering how young – and newly married – Kate and Jon were when they used fertility treatments). Perhaps some relatives didn’t agree with the exploitation of the children, or with Kate’s and Jon’s incessant grifting. If Kate is the classic narcissist she seems to be, then anyone who opposes her is going to be written off as not being able to “help her.” In her mind, she’s a constant victim.
I’ve known a few “middle children” from large families, and a few of the ones I know are manipulative, cunning, and self-absorbed. They constantly complain about what they didn’t have, and find true joy in “getting” from others – in an almost vindictive way. They feel they’ve been “robbed” somehow by being the middle child. Most of their grievances are absurd, selfish, and childish. My opinion is that Kate is just an immature narcissist who wanted a life better than the one her parents provided for her. Just as she coveted a life better than the one Jon could provide. She dumped her parents. She dumped Jon.
I’ve never gotten the sense that her bad parenting and lack-of-attachment to the kids were the fallout from some past abuse. I just think she’s completely self-absorbed, and has no interest in anyone who does not follow her agenda. Kate seems to cut people off once they don’t agree with her. Case in point: the minute Jon was done with the show, Kate divorced him. Others have speculated that Beth may have called Kate out on some issue, and was therefore summarily dismissed (despite all she had done for Kate). Jodi and her husband were pushed to the curb when they expressed concerns about the kids’ exposure on TV. If you’re not towing Kate’s line, you’re thrown out like yesterday’s trash. That doesn’t sound like an abuse-survivor to me. It sounds like a selfish bitch who dismisses all the nay-sayers from her life, no matter how sensible their thoughts might be.
Administrator) said... 81 Kate not cutting off her parents until later doesn't prove or disprove to me any kind of abuse. Only that it took her awhile before she was at the point where she wanted to do that. ==== As fidosmommys just said I think the story goes that the tipping point came when Kate and her parents had a huge dustup which led to a parting of the ways when she rejected the cribs donated by the parishioners of her dad's church. I don't remember if Kate has ever addressed whether or not that is true. Maybe, probably, they knew what she was like and once that happened Kate dug in her heels and decided to show them who's boss of her kids.
Anyway...looking for a story someone mentioned here when I found this pic and wondered if anyone had seen it yet. It is a strikingly different person from the Kate Gosselin of five years ago. Yikes.
Griftopia 89, sounds right to me, too. She also blocks anyone on Twitter who does not worship her. Same exact treatment.
The narcissist I knew (professionally diagnosed, btw) would immediately turn on you if you called her out on something and that would also make you her target from then on. As long as you stayed within the narrow parameters of what she deemed acceptable all was well. She had a very, very small circle of friends, that could change daily. One perceived transgression and you were out. Kate acts the same way, IMO.
capecodmama - He's just one more revolting "human being." I don't know exactly where his territory over there is, but I expect it started out beautiful. Has it just been left unfinished as piles of dirt or what?
I never went to Aberdeen - unless that's where you get the boat to the Orkneys. Can't remember. Oh well. Did you have any interest in the traditional music over there?
Anyway...looking for a story someone mentioned here when I found this pic and wondered if anyone had seen it yet. It is a strikingly different person from the Kate Gosselin of five years ago. Yikes.
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Double yikes. What is that? Full front, no less, which is rare. Very classy. Maybe this is one of the outfits her "personal shopper" bought for her, forgot to keep the receipt and she couldn't return it. Since it was paid for, she wore it. That's really bad, isn't it?
Moose - I was struck by how she looks like an undernourished homeless person who someone took pity on and dressed - but forgot to feed. She looks terrible.
EM said... 76 I dont think kate is in a panic over GosselinBook. Her lies have come to light before and she always skates thru. Im sure she belives no one will believe the "lies" juust like in the past. She also knows the sheeple will rabidly defend her. Kate lives in a bubble. I dont think she is all that worried. Sure she may have wanted to stop the book..but i dont think she is quaking in her boots eitehr. Besides the book will keep her name in the media and she can "set the record straight" on a media blitz. __________________________________________
That doesn't explain the letter sent to Hoffman from her very high priced attorneys.
What's Next, out of curiosity how did that narcissist you know get diagnosed? You don't have to say if you don't want to.
That does seem to be Kate, the slightest little misstep on twitter and you get blocked.
The drivebys are here because even Kate won't reassure them about custody. If it's not true why not just say so and stop the questions? Or maybe she could be a bigger person and just admit it.
Our "visitor" is referring to their vow renewal ceremony, the one where Kate got her Kleinfeld experience and everyone got a free trip to Hawaii.
I can't stand Jon apologists, says the guest. Then, sir or madam, please go where they are not to be found. Several dwell here so this may not be your blog of choice. Then again, you may be a "Rick" which is a name I give to all those who get on these blogs just to be a pain. You are doing Rick proud, I'm sure. And yes, Rick is a real person with a really difficult personality when he can get away with it.
She was the spouse of a relative. They divorced and I think in an effort to keep him in her life she agreed to go to a psychiatrist. She liked to play the victim and he is a rescuer type so she played to his sympathy. He insisted that she get an evaluation. He showed me a copy of the evaluation. It said that she was a Narcissist and that there was no treatment or therapy available that would address her issues. It also said that she found enjoyment in mistreating others.
She was very rude to restaurant staff, sales clerks, the people who maintained her lawn, really anyone that was in the service industry that she felt was beneath her and she liked to brag about how inferior they were and how she had dismissed them. (I guess they didn't know how to help her).
Another relative went with her to Europe and said she targeted one tour guide and was terrible to her. Travel companion told me that she was ready to come home before going to Paris because Narcissist was being so awful to Tour guide.
Kate reminds me so much of her. Thankfully, she is out of my family's life.
Moose - I was struck by how she looks like an undernourished homeless person who someone took pity on and dressed - but forgot to feed. She looks terrible.
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Absolutely. I looked at that outfit and the boots and all I could think of was Karen Carpenter, who looked better than that. When was that taken?
Jon had tweeted that he was sick of all the BS going on and he was going to stop tweeting. His account is now closed.
Seriously, both of them have done a lot wrong but I don't understand why Jon gets attacked and beaten down so much and Kate comes out looking like she is Mother Theresa.
What's Next thanks, that's so fascinating. Forgive my fascination, but it's so rare to get diagnosed so I'm intrigued.
Do you know how long it took her to get diagnosed? A ton of sessions or could they tell right away. How did she take this, did she deny it? Again only share what you're comfortable with.
Admin, I honestly don't know the answers to that. I do know that the doctors thought she had the early stages of Alzheimers so that diagnosis might have been part of the testing she underwent for that, but this behaviour was not Alzheimers related. She wasn't just being mean, a lot of what she did was very calculated.
Another relative also witnessed a very fake (she was not a good actress) crying spell. Witness saw her sitting in a waiting room perfectly calm, then she got up and starting walking, loudly wailing and acting like she was crying. Very theatrical. It was part of plan to manipulate a situation where those in authority in a business wouldn't agree to her wishes. If she couldn't boss her way around, she would try different techniques to get her way.
Absolutely. I looked at that outfit and the boots and all I could think of was Karen Carpenter, who looked better than that. When was that taken? ====
Karen Carpenter all over again, for sure. The article is from the 4 August 2012 daily mail uk but they used a photo taken from last October when she was on Raw Dog Comedy's "The Phone Show" At SiriusXM.
She looked a little healthier yesterday at the BlogHer conference. Her weight obviously fluctuates.
I absolutely think it's a better thing that Jon's deleted his Twitter account.
He's right to keep his focus on the kids, instead of engaging those who park themselves on his Twitter feed, for better and worse. There's no reason to think their kids' lives are enhanced in any way by 140-character discussions/debates with absolute strangers.
Now if he'd just steer clear of the media altogether, that'd be even better. Baby steps....
A rectoid bug said, "I can't stand Jon apologists"
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Then grab your coat, get the hell off the blog and join the Twitter crowd. You'll fit in quite well there when the sheeple wake up tomorrow and resume their Jon bashing. Don't forget to take your attitude with you.
#118, OMG, you are cracking me up. Everything from your name to the term "rectoid bug". I'm just glad I'm not drinking anything or I'd be having to buy a new laptop.
Jon tweeted that his tweeter jongosselin1 got hacked. So he is back on twitter with jongosselin01. And it is NOT protected. I was just on it a minute ago.
Has anyone seen or heard about the article that Jon supposedly did in Star magazine. Any news about if there is such an article or not? Remember this "article" started all this mess a few days ago.
Enjoyed some British comedies on PBS this evening. In particular, " Keeping Up Appearances". Gotta love Hyacinth Bucket ("it's Bouquet!") with her candle light suppers using her Royal Doulton with the hand painted perriwinkles, or name dropping here sister Violet who drives a Mercedes and has house and yard big enough for a pony. Of course her white slim line phone.
Any chance Ms Kate picked up this behavior watching said show?
Nahhh. She's just a pompous one-upper all on her own.
Now back to gritting an upgrade for our heirloom faux ultra suede brown Lazy-Boy recliner spaceship. Surely, I am not getting the hang of the grifting. A personal embarrassment as I am 50% Hungarian Gypsy/traveler stock and should KNOW these things. I have been so distracted by the bugle thing...
Jon tweeted that his tweeter jongosselin1 got hacked. So he is back on twitter with jongosselin01. And it is NOT protected. I was just on it a minute ago.
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I seriously doubt it's Jon. It's not verified, and the language doesn't sound like Jon. I'll believe it when I see that it's legit.
You might be right I mean when has Jon ever tweeted to Kate? __________ Jon Gosselin @jongosselin01 @Kateplusmy8 Kate, my account got hacked! RT for fans!
May I add that I am sure the whole show will contain subtitles. How can it not, I didnt understand a word of that promo and Im southern! Lovely isnt it Katie? And yes, to all the sheeple who drop by, I did watch TLC and felt completely superior. Still do...obviously!
That is all, Sincerely, Robert Fan 2012 Anastasia (lifts)
Jason Backe@JasonHueman @Kateplusmy8 it was so fun to meet your girls!!! Awesome kids!!! And ps you look freakin amazing! Xoxo 12:39 PM - 4 Aug 12 -------------------------------------- Does anyone actually say "so fun" rather than "so much fun" apart from Kate? I don't think I've ever heard it before.
And I always thought Coffeemate was pretty much 100% chemicals. I guess I should go Google it...
Because they would have to go to the school within their district, and it is a large public school system compared to where they are now. In the public school, there are more kids in one elementary school than the total number of students in lower, middle and upper school in their current school. The student-teacher ratio in the public school averages 16 to 1; in their current school it averages 6 or 8 to 1. So yes, it would be huge to them. ____________________________________ Wow Berks, that is a SMALL school, 16-1 ratio. Are you kidding me? That is a tiny school! When I was in school it was 30-1 in grammar school and 28-1 high school. I went to school in LA (the ghetto part, not the rich part) and when my daughter went to school in a super nice public school in Huntington Beach, her class ratio was 20-1, and that was small. You guys have tiny schools.
Also, when I was in high school we had metal detectors and uniformed security at all times. I was class of 90. I guess it all depends on where you grow up.
In the past 48 hours Jon has been outed as a douche bag who doesn't pay child support and won't be ever again, who held the Director of Sales and Marketing job at Gameface for a mere 8 weeks, who is reportedly filing for bankruptcy, was so trashed on the internet he deleted his twitter account, and is the most hated reality star ever.
Gee, you'd think someone had a revealing tell all book on Kate to release, lol
Agreed, mama mia. Simply amazing the attacks on Jon just when the Gosselinbook is about to be released. I think this is what Kate spends her time on: figuring out ways to trash Jon. Nobody will ever convince me she hates his guts for the divorce and not playing along to keep the show on the air. I am thrilled Jon calls BS and closed his Twitter account.
I guess Kate used Deanna as her babysitter for the twins in NYC. No way was PB watching the girls. He was there at the convention. Isn't it something how she acts like people she surrounds herself with are friends when in reality she pays them? Think about the RV trip. When she was having that angry tirade after pizzagate, she said Jamie and Ashley were paid employees. She buys their loyalty and to keep their mouths shut. Same with Deanna. Kate has plenty of money, they want some, and the relationship works for Kate who buys their friendship and silence.
Gosselinbook has this tweet posted under Kate's picture. Is this a tweet by Kate in response to someone who accuses her of being racist?? What does c color mean?
REALLY??!Wow!A busy mom misses tweet& I’m accused of being racist? Harsh! I dont c color–God made us all! Have a fun day! 6.5.12 Tweet
Re: Group photo heading this blog. Couldn't quite "put my finger on it", but whowever said Kate looks like the mother of the other two blondes perfectly described my reaction to the photo.
TLC stinks said... 136 Gosselinbook has this tweet posted under Kate's picture. Is this a tweet by Kate in response to someone who accuses her of being racist?? What does c color mean?
REALLY??!Wow!A busy mom misses tweet& I’m accused of being racist? Harsh! I dont c color–God made us all! Have a fun day! 6.5.12 Tweet
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Kate was responding to a tweeter who'd been trying, repeatedly and without success, to capture Kate's attention about something important (at least to her). When Kate kept overlooking her, responded to others instead, she intimated Kate was being racist. Kate apparently saw THAT tweet, and snapped (see above). The twitterer backed down and apologized all over herself. If I'm recalling correctly, Kate told her she was forgiven.
That is a tweet from Kate. She doesn't see color as in the color of one's skin. Trying to say she isn't a racist. Without seeing the other tweets I can only surmise someone accused her of being racist for not answering a tweet from a person of color.
Must be something in the book that shows her being racist is all I can figure.
"Thanks, Maggie. Not much into Twitter shorthand. Not even sure who the tweet was from. Must be some reason Gosselinbook posted it."
I saw that and wondered too. I think the point of it shows the level of Kate's narcissism.
When people are fawning over her she has time to tweet and retweet non stop. If someone says something not nice, she has time to "set the record straight" and block the offending tweetie, but if it's not about her at all she usually ignores it claiming to be a "busy mom".
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Ha, that's one of my favorite shows! The cast is amazing and the writing hilarious. Just saw the one where she thought Rose's new bf was a wealthy Greek and she had a pre-lunch hors d'oevres gathering. So funny.
I guess if Kate is going down she is going to make darn sure Jon goes down, too.
Now that the "new" Jon Gosselin Twitter account is gone I have no doubt it was a fake. In the first place why would Jon post saying he was closing his twitter and then open a new one with an almost identical name? Secondly, what would be the point be of closing one and immediately opening another. That would just present a new playground for more of the same. Makes no sense.
I saw the back-and-forth on Twitter re Jon & Kate's custody agreement/finances, and I posted the article about him deleting his Twitter account when I saw it.
News to me, but I think I might've missed something. I scrolled back through this post, but I can't find anything here that points to whatever it was that finally led him to delete his Twitter account. Can anyone enlighten me?
I don't think Kate is racist- she wanted to adopt that half African- American baby, and her kids are part Asian. 'The more Asian the better.' Although she does spell it 'Asain!"
Improbable, I don't know the exact details either, but from what I can piece together his twitter had become a trash heap of sheep pellets. He saw that his Twitter was only providing them a place for the herd to gather, so he closed it.
I have no idea the point of Robert posting that tweet. She has tweeted plenty that show better her narcissism. Remember the title of his book, "How She Fooled the World". I guess we just wait and see. He loves to dribble it out.
I don't think she is racist. She doesn't discriminate, she treats everyone who doesn't "know how to help her" poorly. Right now her fans "know how to help her" by going after Jon, thus the "Thank you" and "xo" tweets. Bo Peep has to make sure she doesn't lose her sheep.
I guess it will all make sense when the book comes out.
What's Next? said... 148 Improbable, I don't know the exact details either, but from what I can piece together his twitter had become a trash heap of sheep pellets. He saw that his Twitter was only providing them a place for the herd to gather, so he closed it. #### Thanks. They've dropped pellets on his Twitter feed for a long while now, haven't they? I guess the stink finally did him in. Noticing that the pile o' dung is growing ever larger on Kate's Twitter feed. Maybe she has a higher tolerance for that?
I come to this bog to read funny things. I find Ms Kreider boring. I enjoy reading about gardening, recipes, grandchildren, pets. I love discussing Dancing With Them There Stars! I am still hoping for a home organization tips thread. I find out very funny when the readers of this blog are categorically dismissed as ”haters”. I do not care enough about Ms Kreider to have any emotion about her. Boring = no emotional investment.
Trying to catch up on the twitter drama. It seems strange to me that Jon would quit Twitter without confirming he has 50/50 custody if that were true. Then again it's strange to me that he would complain about having to pay child support if he was actually relinquished from it (if true). Thinking about it, here is what I think happened. Maybe someone could match the timeline up...first Jon said no filming for the kids. Then, earlier this year Kate and Jon both came out and said the kids miss filming and Jon said, iirc that he would not necessarily be averse to the kids on tv. I think the cs agreement did not have to do with physical custody but with legal custody. I have custody in PA and they are two separate things (maybe that's how it is everywhere?). I think he agreed to give her full legal custody or at least permission to film kids in exchange for not having to pay cs. I think he is in arrears, which is what he can't keep up with. I think she figured that she could get a show if the kids were on it, and would not need Jon's money, and if the kids were not on a show, she finally realized she would not get a show at all. I don't think she banked on still not being able to get a show. So once again, the kids are the ATMs. This is purely speculation, but based on some good circumstantial evidence. If you get up and the ground was wet, you can be pretty sure it rained. IMO
Someone is advising KT on how to dress. The bondage dress gives the illusion of curves. And, yes, she does look nice in a dress that she has't been taken to the hemmer's to have the bottom whacked off, looking like part of it is missing, and stripping away the original design. Must be ElyS or whoever furnishes her TV dresses seeing that she is getting some of that are more flattering to her straight frame.
I am glad that Jon closed his Twitter. It served no purpose whatsoever, except as a playground for the handful of diehards to bait and switch.
Exactly. I feel so bad for those kids. I liked Jon during the show, was disappointed in his behavior during divorce but chalked it up to PTSD or something, thought he saw the light, and and disappointed in him again. Kate, well I've thought she was a selfish bitch since the Toys R Us epi and have never changed my mind on that. Sigh.
Perhaps Jon shut down his twitter as a prelude to Kate's outing in Robert's book? Whatever his reason, it's about time one of them STFU. I am tired of Jon popping off with his declared undying love for his woman of the month.
Interesting and a possibility. One thing is for sure, it has to benefit her in some way or she won't go for it voluntarily. Note I said voluntarily. ___________________________________________
Has it been established that Kate voluntarily agreed to 50/50 or did she do it kicking and screaming?
Off topic . . . Readerlady? Help!!! We came home from church today to find a kitten in one of our cat carriers. Our son had gone to work and pulled the little guy (or girl?) out of a burn pile. It was caught in a wire crate. He didn't know what to do with it, so he brought it home and put it in our cat carrier. We have four pets already, so our house is full. I know shelters won't take it - I've been in this situation with stray cats before. I've asked around a bit and posted on Facebook. Do you have any suggestions for me? Thanks in advance. :)
I know you are asking readerlady, but just wanted to say how kind & decent of your son to rescue the kitty. Maybe your vet could help? Wish I could help. Hope a solution is found :/
Thank you Once! As much as I don't want to deal with this right now, it warms my heart that my 19 year old would care enough to rescue a tiny kitten. I'm afraid my daughter is already falling in love with it. It really is so stinkin' cute. Ugh!
"I am tired of Jon popping off with his declared undying love for his woman of the month."
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Woman of the month? The divorce was in December of 2009. That would mean that he popped off 31 times with his love for a woman? I recall Hailey, Ellen and Liz. Were there 28 more?
"I think he agreed to give her full legal custody or at least permission to film kids in exchange for not having to pay cs."
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Unless there's a definite show under contract, I can't imagine her giving up child support without knowing that there's money coming in from a show. What if a show doesn't materialize? That means that she's stuck with no show and no child support.
Butterfly said,
Are you kidding me? That is a tiny school! When I was in school it was 30-1 in grammar school and 28-1 high school. I went to school in LA (the ghetto part, not the rich part) and when my daughter went to school in a super nice public school in Huntington Beach, her class ratio was 20-1, and that was small. You guys have tiny schools.
The public schools are not all that "small." That's one of the schools in her district. There's one public school that has a 30-1 ratio, with nearly 3,000 in grades 9-12, with more students in the graduating class than there are in the entire school where the Gosselins are now. The student in that public school is only a number. I know one family whose daughter attended a small private school, enrolled in that public school, and was back in the private school two weeks later. She hated it. Others love it. It depends on the kid.
Tropical storms, Ernesto & Florence, are going to make it a very bumpy ride.
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That's why I refuse to book cruises during hurricane season. There was one cruise we did because there were specific islands I wanted to visit. Along came a storm, and the entire itinerary was changed at the last minute, going to places I had already been to more than once. Never again, and especially not in July, August, or September.
How many cruisers are still signed up for this trip?
Article about Jon quitting twitter. I guess not everyone a Babble.com likes Kate. An excerpt:
"But his ex Kate? She is still very much engaged in Twitter. But she uses it mostly in a promotional capacity to pimp snack bars and to talk about her new hobby, running. She was even in Twitter happy BlogHer land over the weekend."
Good for Jon for making his twitter private. If I recall, it was private for a very long time when he first got on twitter. Again, he shows me which parent is the smarter of the two, and it's not Kate.
Why give nasty people a place to squat and fling poo with his name attached? Kate obviously doesn't mind, since for her any attention is good attention.
If this book does come out, and I hope it does, I hope it really has some interesting information backed up by proof/facts, so she can't try to deny anything.
As has been explained many times it's illegal in Pennsylvania to "bargain" away child support. Jon legally could not have bargained away his support in exchange for filming.
Is there something inherently wrong with a big public school I'm missing? I went to a fairly big one but there were always a hundred different clubs, sports and music activities you could take part in. The variety was endless. I had a fantastic experience and it churned out many doctors, nurses, teachers, lawyers and other successful professionals from my class.
I too am glad that Jon deleted his twitter. He hasn't been tweeting much anyway.
Kate says block the bullies so you can't see their tweets. But does Kate realize that even those that don't have twitter can read all the negative tweets about her? Anyone who really wanted to see what people are saying about her can just go read her timeline and see the good, the bad, and the ugly. And they can also see that she only has a few followers that actually tweet her.
Perhaps, that is why no one is rushing to give her a job in media. She's not as well-liked as she would like people to believe.
AuntieAnn said... 169 Moose & Admin - Great idea. Rum mixed with pineapple and a hit of jagermeister. ***************************
I am trying to catch up on posts, but Auntie, could you pour me one of these while I read, please? Ice, maybe an umbrella and a couple of maraschino cherries? Thanks ever so much.
PS I was trying to decide between white rum or spiced but I think with the Jager it's gotta be white, dont you think?
Mrs. Malaprop -- You live in the Columbus area, right? There is an excellent rescue in, I think, Westerville. It's called Cat Welfare. They are a no kill; take in strays and heal them,socialize them and place them. They should be in your phone book. They are a 501(c)and are very reputable. There's also another rescue in the Columbus area, Cozy Cat Cottage. I don't know a lot about them,but the little I've heard has been positive. Meanwhile, give the kitty something soft to snuggle in (towel, baby blanket, etc.), a litter pan, and food and water. Reassure by talking to it and, if it will let you, pet and snuggle it. Poor thing must be scared to death. Blessings on your son for having compassion and on you for teaching it to him.
Mrs. Malaprop -- I did a little googling around and I goofed. Cat Welfare isn't in Westerville. It's on Indianola Ave. S of Morse Rd. I haven't been there in a long time and I got confused (or had a senior moment). Anyway -- their website is www.catwelfareohio.com. Cozy Cat Cottage is in Powell and their website is www.cozycatcottage.org. They are also 501(c).
If Kate has all this money and Jon is broke, wouldn't Kate have to pay child support to Jon if it was 50/50 as you say?
I can't see any scenario where it would work any other way. I really don't believe Jon has the 50/50. There is no way he could pay half of their expenses ever.
Dwindle, hi. I have been watching for you. Hope today is brighter.
Soon I will be going to a Harrah's casino with a friendly cocktail server who takes orders for "unique" blends. I really don't drink that much hard liquor, but will try for FREE! Think I should take our Rumspringa recipes...taste...and return with reviews? Assuming, my memory would be intact!
I am trying to catch up on posts, but Auntie, could you pour me one of these while I read, please? Ice, maybe an umbrella and a couple of maraschino cherries? Thanks ever so much.
PS I was trying to decide between white rum or spiced but I think with the Jager it's gotta be white, dont you think?
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Wow. I guess we think alike. I looked in the refrigerator last night to figure out what to put in a Rumspringa. I have orange juice, pineapple juice, spiced rum, and Jager (still unopened). I figured the pineapple and Jager would work well, but the dark spiced rum just wasn't right. I'll get some white and try that.
There is no child support in pa when it's 50-50. But they would still have to work out school expenses and other things either among them or through the court if they can't agree. Count me as also glad Jon is off twitter. He probably wouldn't have as much time anyway for it between work and the kids. I doubt Kate could afford everything either on her CC salary shoe must be dipping into savins the entire family earned. That doesn't count as Kate supporting them IMO.
#176 I think the 50/50 split is based on the amount of time each parent has the kids, not dollars spent. If on Jon's watch he chooses to feed them Hamburger Helper and clothe them in Walmart's that's his right. If Kate wants them to dine at Nobu (yeah right) and dress them in designer duds that's her right.
My son found a kitten, and despite my objections to keeping her (we already have a menagerie) this sweet little feline now rules the roost here. My daughter found a kitten abandoned in a parking lot. He's here, too. We love these guys, but I said, "ENOUGH!" At least until the next time!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 98 Mama Mia, do you think attorneys never lie, mislead or play with words? :-) Her lawyer's statement is simply not permitted under PA law and she knows it. You don't get a get out of jail free card. It doesn't happen.
What does "sole" supporting mean anyway? Does this just mean that I'm not getting any child support from Jon anymore? Sure. That doesn't mean that JON isn't supporting them too when he has them 50% of the time.
Kate is not the sole supporter anyway. The kids were responsible for the bulk of her savings. That said in fairness I think her attorney got revved up when Jon was talking about child support and knowing that he doesn't have to pay anymore (because it's 50-50) she lashed out. None of them should talk about child support or support publicly, it's just not appropriate. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Clearly i am still catching up, but thank you for addressing this point. It is illegal in Ohio too.
If they have 50/50 custody, then he is not paying support directly to Kate for the kids groceries etc, because HE is feeding them, showering them, putting a roof over their heads for EXACTLY the same amount of time that Kate is. But many of us know that the issues of tuition, medical coverage, medical expenses above and beyond what is covered, are all matters that are addressed in detail by the court.
It is laughable to think that Kate VOLUNTEERED to alleviate Jon of child support. Katespeak, again only this time from an attorney. I will bet anyone a shiny new nickle that Jon filed for 50/50 and she decided not to fight it. Period.
Kate is not the 'sole support' as she is only feeding and housing them half the time. I think some posters may be confusing child support with alimony. Just because Kate is the female, does not mean it is Jon's job to keep Kate living in the style she has become accustomed to. Not Jon's job to pay for the mansion, the kids dont need that. KATE thinks SHE needs it, but it's not Jon's responsiblity to pay for Kate's housing. It is KATE's responsiblity to pay for her own housing of her own choosing just like Jon is. If Kate wants a one bedroom apartment, so be it, but then she cant have her kids 1/2 time because she cant properly house them for more than occasional sleepovers. HER choice.
I think there will still be folks that chose to or are unable to comprehend this.
Just down the road said... ...Why would you want to read something like this? Wouldn't you want it be part of your past and move on? I understand that it may help you to come to grips with what happened to you, but at the same time, isn't it just an unhealthy reminder of what happened to you? ------------ I understand your questions and I will try to give an understandable answer. As I posted earlier, my family was a respected middle-class Jewish family. Having been the victim of child abuse in which that fact was never acknowledged, creates a dissonance. A child doesn't have the ability to objectively view the whole situation and say, "Wow, I'm being abused". I just thought that I was somehow defective and deserved what I got. As an adult, as the truth came into perspective, I can look back and say those words. So much of my life was lived in denial of how broken I was. And, as the truth about my own husband's secret life of drinking came out, I found myself eerily living my mother's life. Alcoholism is a terrible disease that almost destroyed my own family marriage and family and is a powerful tool for coping.
When I entered a 12 Step group, I honestly felt insane--it was much easier to believe that I was at fault for my husband's lying and addiction-- exactly the same kind of dissonance that I felt as a child. As I began working the steps, I found many of the issues in my marriage rooted in my family of origin. So, the simple answer to your question is that staying in reality is a necessary component of my recovery and healing. The physical abuse that I experienced is not the most prominent cause of my relational issues--it was just one of many symptoms of the sick family dynamics that surround alcoholism.
Reading memoirs such as this is a validation that I am not crazy and helps me to reconstruct what happened to me. This particular book is written with the kind of humor and black humor that I can relate to. I don't live in the past, but I don't run from it either. 12 Step groups focus on being there for newcomers, sharing our stories and supporting each other as we navigate through difficult and tragic times.
I was living with a secretly alcoholic husband for 30 years before he faced his problem. Were there signs? Yes! Living with someone who has a secret addiction is like having the pieces to a puzzle that you didn't even know existed. It is very easy for others to ask, -how could you have not known?, and I can understand. I can only answer with a quote from the AA book that describes alcoholism as a disease that is cunning, baffling and powerful.
Exactly dwindle. Now that it's 50-50 it's up to Kate to decide hOw lavishly she wants to live and it's not Jon's problem. Tuition and medical insurance and things like that would all be s
What's Next? said... 148 Improbable, I don't know the exact details either, but from what I can piece together his twitter had become a trash heap of sheep pellets. He saw that his Twitter was only providing them a place for the herd to gather, so he closed it.
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How is that any different than what is done to Kate's Twitter by the people on your side of the fence? It's ridiculous behavior, regardless of whether the target is Jon or Kate.
Dwindle, It is Jon who is saying in his Star interview that he can't pay for housing and c/s not Kate. He also stated that unless he can provide housing he will not be able to have custody.
I wonder if something happened recently to put him in this situation. Could he have lost his job at that Game place? Maybe Liz could help him out.
How is that any different than what is done to Kate's Twitter by the people on your side of the fence? It's ridiculous behavior, regardless of whether the target is Jon or Kate. ######
Not different at all. Whether by accident or design, you've overlooked my response to that comment. I said at 151:
They've dropped pellets on his Twitter feed for a long while now, haven't they? I guess the stink finally did him in. Noticing that the pile o' dung is growing ever larger on Kate's Twitter feed. Maybe she has a higher tolerance for that?
My fine points are of course different than yours, but I am there with ya, sister. I am 55 years old and still having 'awakening' moments. Just a few weeks ago I tried, for my own sake, to confront my mother on one of those past matters and she had not one word to say, no matter how many times I repeated it. But at least she didnt deny it, which is her usual M.O.
You dont grow up saying "I am being abused, neglected, mentally tortured, I will get therapy later." you dont usually know that. You just grow up knowing you are hurting and sad and scared all the time and different than the rest of humanity.
A lot of the "haters" on Kate's twitter are ridiculous. There's been lots of discussion here about that. Not many, if any, people here condone that ridiculous behavior.
Anonymous do you read here much? Most people here can't stand the sludge on Kate's Twitter either and have said so. I also said ages ago people who do that are not welcome here. Before spouting off please be more informed.
Anonymous said...How is that any different than what is done to Kate's Twitter by the people on your side of the fence? It's ridiculous behavior, regardless of whether the target is Jon or Kate. _____________________________________________
For me there's a more important point. Jon decided to put a stop to it. Kate has not! I wonder why, do you?
Dmasy said... 177 Dwindle, hi. I have been watching for you. Hope today is brighter.
Soon I will be going to a Harrah's casino with a friendly cocktail server who takes orders for "unique" blends. I really don't drink that much hard liquor, but will try for FREE! Think I should take our Rumspringa recipes...taste...and return with reviews? Assuming, my memory would be intact! &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Hi Dmasy.
Hey, GO FOR IT with the recipes! And have a great time! So happy for you that you have a nice trip planned!
One of my daughters (I have several of them and I know you have got to be tired of hearing about them) is bar tending part time in Nashville for extra money. I was thinking about asking her if she could experiment too with the above concoction, get the pour counts down and measurments. If she can do that, and her resturant approves it, i will let y'all know!!
Just me in NC said... 176 If Kate has all this money and Jon is broke, wouldn't Kate have to pay child support to Jon if it was 50/50 as you say?
I can't see any scenario where it would work any other way. I really don't believe Jon has the 50/50. There is no way he could pay half of their expenses ever.
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In Pennsylvania, child support is calculated on guidelines which sets the amount of child support. CS is calulcated using the net monthly income of each parent,then the number of children is included, and after factoring in certain additional expenses (like Child care and Health Insurance) and deducting others, a monthly guideline amount of support is calculated. This amount is then divided by the percentage of overnights of each parent.
And it if needed, CS can impute income to a parent who is not currently earning what was earned in the past. This was clearly done for Jon when they 1st divorced - hence the $22K that he payed Kate for many years when it was clear he was earning nowhere near that amount. The tables may now be turned on Kate - PA CS may be imputing income to Kate based on what she historically made the past years.
For all we know Jon actually could be making more income than Kate this past year. Jon does have a full time job from what I understand contrary to the most recent Tabloid reports that Kate has helped put in the press the past week. And Kate is most likely not making much income this year since her sole job is posting on CC. I can't imagine that pays all that much.
I do believe that Jon has 50/50 custody. I also believe that CS was eliminated based on what they recalculated in PA CS estimator and negotiated by both Jon and Kate considering new income calculations.
Even if what I believe is true, Jon still comes out behind. Kate is sitting on alot of wealth and is living a rich lifestyle no matter how much she tries to tweet otherwise. Jon obviously does not have available assets to fall back on and needs a paycheck to take care of his kids.
I find it SHAMEFUL that Kate is NOT stopping the slams against Jon on this CS issue on HER twitter by her crazy fans. And that she has NOT refuted the false reports in the tabloids.
It proves how much Kate HATES Jon more than she loves her own kids. Her behavior (or in this case her Non-Response) is SHAMEFUL, PATHETIC, and most of all HARMFUL to her kids. How Kate and her lawyer can sit back and let this happen to Jon is sickening to me (even if any of it is true - since I don't know).
Just Me said... 188 Dwindle, It is Jon who is saying in his Star interview that he can't pay for housing and c/s not Kate. He also stated that unless he can provide housing he will not be able to have custody. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
I am sorry, i totally skipped over that part in my rant, didnt I?
THEY ARE BOTH LYING and I am sick of them publically complaining about what a financial burden their children are!!!!
My previous post was mainly a reply to those wayyyy up thread who insisted that kate is sole support.
How is that any different than what is done to Kate's Twitter by the people on your side of the fence? It's ridiculous behavior, regardless of whether the target is Jon or Kate. _______________________
It is no different. It is despicable behavior, no matter who is engaging in it. But Kate is in dire need of adulation and is consumed with being idolized and having praise heaped upon her, so she will never shut down her Twitter account. She also uses Twitter as a way to not engage with her kids, given that she tweets far more when the kids are around than when she isn't with them. I also truly believe she loves when "haters" make nasty comments because it allows her to act both victimized and superior. If she wasn't enjoying the attention or getting her needs fulfilled, she would simply shut down her account.
It is no different. It is despicable behavior, no matter who is engaging in it. But Kate is in dire need of adulation and is consumed with being idolized and having praise heaped upon her, so she will never shut down her Twitter account. She also uses Twitter as a way to not engage with her kids, given that she tweets far more when the kids are around than when she isn't with them. I also truly believe she loves when "haters" make nasty comments because it allows her to act both victimized and superior. If she wasn't enjoying the attention or getting her needs fulfilled, she would simply shut down her account. ---------------------------------- I Agree! Her twitter clearly shows how much Kate loves HERSELF and HATES Jon MORE than she loves her kids.!!!!!
If some people don't understand or like the way we think on this blog, I really believe they would be happier to just not read here. I think there have to be other blogs where they could relate better. Or maybe start their own if they can't find any.
We have spent years watching Kate Gosselin be a very unpleasant, nasty, and selfish person and we honestly believe she is hurting her children. No one is going to convince me otherwise. No one. Ever.
835 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 835 Newer› Newest»Any kid would be so lucky to go to a 16-1 school ratio. That's way below what lots of schools do. It's unnecessary to fork over that much money just to get something smaller than that when that's already decently small.
On another note, I've considered that the Gosselin kids might actually be relieved to just be "one of the crowd."
A big school can be a godsend for kids like them.
anger issues kate said... 192
Yes, it looks like Kate took the twins with her. By looking at pictures of her, it looks like Deanna did her makeup, so maybe they got to hang out with her.
Jason Backe@JasonHueman
@Kateplusmy8 it was so fun to meet your girls!!! Awesome kids!!! And ps you look freakin amazing! Xoxo
12:39 PM - 4 Aug 12
Kate Gosselin@Kateplusmy8
@JasonHueman omg I was JUST abt2 tweet u a delayed 'omg thanku agn'.U read my mind-scary:) They had SO much fun&r still talking abt it!
12:42 PM - 4 Aug 12
She could also have taken all the girls(not just the twins), and the "icky" boys were with Jon.
There seems to be quite a bit of just taking the twins lately. For whatever that means. Maybe that's why they went shopping last week.
About KK's father being in the military -- if you're old enough you know that virtually every able-bodied young man was drafted at 18, or entered voluntarily where they had some choice in their training, and was in for 3 years. I'm sure there were some deferments but it was that way until the 70's (I believe) when it went to an all voluntary system. So yes, Mr. Kreider could have been in the military for a minimum of 3 years.
Modern Vounteer Army started July 1, 1973.
I think it might have been just the twins. The shopping spree, as mentioned, the special treatment they get in Kate's boudoir, all the tweets. They are def the Golden Girls for now!In a way it's their turn, as Mady especially noted the special treatment of the tups early on, but what are the six thinking? :(
7m Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@TootyTa @NoraSaysNo nope. Just talking about products I believe in and love...Don't we all? I like tooting horns of comps who deserve it!
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"I like tooting horns of comps who deserve it!". Translated Katespeak is: I like tooting my horn for the comps I get because I deserve them! if I don't mention the @company's name how will they know to comp me things?!
To me, CO is the abbreviation for company and when you comped something you're getting it for free. (purely snark sheeple so don't get your panties in a bunch over abbreviations.)
I just hope it doesn't create division and resentment between the Tups and the twins when they are separated out like this so much. On the other hand the Tups probably didn't have the slightest interest in going to some conference in NYC.
I also don't believe for a second Kate didn't collect swag. How can she deny she doesn't? She's gotten so many freebies over the years. Is she denying all the cash money and furniture she got for Lane? She just likes to support Lane out of the goodness of her heart? Like she wants us to think she "relieved" Jon of support out of the goodness of her heart? Kate only does things that benefit Kate.
Kate's father was/is a pastor. He would have been exempt from being drafted.
Mary Carillo just reported that Prince William and Kate were offered seats in the royal box at the tennis match but declined, opting to sit with the rest of the fans and do the wave and things.
I like those two so much.
Who is paying ROL to publish all this Gosselin junk? Another article is on there showing off Kate in her red bandage dress. Why?
I know someone who is a facebook friend with the mother of the girl who saw Jon & the kids last weekend. She said all 8 kids were there with Jon. And it appeared they had a couple friends with them. I thought it was odd that Kate was tweeting about shopping with the twins. But I suppose they could have gone with her after the park.
Local Park sighting interesting. I've been told Kate loves to exaggerate the time she spends with the kids. One of these days she's going to get caught.
Some people have pointed out that when she tweets things about the kids, she often doesn't suggest that whatever she is talking about that they said or did happened right THEN that day. She is very careful.
Local Park sighting interesting. I've been told Kate loves to exaggerate the time she spends with the kids. One of these days she's going to get caught.
Some people have pointed out that when she tweets things about the kids, she often doesn't suggest that whatever she is talking about that they said or did happened right THEN that day. She is very careful.
LaLaLandNoMore said... 11
Another article is on there showing off Kate in her red bandage dress. Why?
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That's red BONDAGE dress.LOL
Hmmm, let's consider the following:
1. Gosselin book coming out this month
2. Tweeter named @laurasvec posts positive tweets about Kate
3. @laurasvec is "still doing PR"
4. Robert Hoffman breaks story about Lane Furniture contract
5. Stories posted on Star and Radar are both unflattering to Jon and put Kate in positive light
6. Kate thanks her followers and tells them how much she loves them
Anyone else see what I see? Kate is feeling threatened by what is in Gosselin Book and is taking a preemptive strike for what she feels is about to threaten her last grip on any possibility of stardom. Feel free to add your observations to my list.
Kate's head must be close to exploding with all the "you look freakin amazing!!" comments coming her way. I sure would like to see her in person to make my own personal assessment. To look so beautiful and not have anyone to appreciate it is such a waste of all that effort that goes in to her appearance. Somewhere out there someone has to be getting close to taking take that fat-head and her 8 kids on. (I don't like to assume Steve is her lover until I know the facts).
Kate is really pushing these dang Bella Bars. I tasted one. It was okay, but I wasn't about to go orgasmic over it. It tasted like cold cream of wheat held together with a dab of school glue (yes, I've tasted school glue a long time ago. You never forget the taste). The coating tasted a bit synthetic. If I were starving, I'd probably eat one. It seems to be an acquired taste.
Would I ever have a melt-down if I didn't have a supply in my pantry? Heck, no! I'd never even order a box. There are so many good nutritional bars out there that taste good at a fraction of the cost.
Lots of tweeting and Kate is still ignoring one of her fans she so appreciates by not answering the question (again) about 50/50 custody.
Kate's head must be close to exploding with all the "you look freakin amazing!!" comments coming her way. I sure would like to see her in person to make my own personal assessment. To look so beautiful and not have anyone to appreciate it is such a waste of all that effort that goes in to her appearance. Somewhere out there someone has to be getting close to taking take that fat-head and her 8 kids on. (I don't like to assume Steve is her lover until I know the facts).
JudyK, I agree with you. Kate is simply unlikeable and I've felt that way for quite some time. Too many negative adjectives to list here apply to her.
In contract law, silence is considered acceptance. Hehe.
Amy2 said... 5
Modern Vounteer Army started July 1, 1973.
If you google Kate's father by name, it appears he was born around 1948, and would have been 19 in 1967, so military experience makes
sense. (no I didn't save the link - look for yourself).
Also googling around I found this from 2009.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kate-Gosselin-Is-a-Selfish-Monster-Nanny-Reveals-121086.shtml
Jason Backe@JasonHueman
@Kateplusmy8 it was so fun to meet your girls!!! Awesome kids!!! And ps you look freakin amazing! Xoxo
12:39 PM - 4 Aug 12
Now do something about her hair!
I think Kate looks like a 'working girl'- ironic, since she doesn't work- but you know what I mean. But she looks ok, a bit scrawny, oversized boobs, bleached dead hair, overly tanned, wrinkles and sags, horrid wardrobe, fake smile...but ok. If I met her as a 'normal' person I would think these things but judge her as an ok looking gal with poor taste and habits. I'd judge her on her personality.
But the reason all these physical things are so repugnant is because she is vain, shallow, phoney- and she spends the kids' money on said hair, clothing, tan, mani/pedi, teeth etc in excess which makes me ill.
miloandjack
@LuvmyKeurig @Kateplusmy8 U are beyond RUDE & JUDGEMENTAL....leave the kids alone! What's wrong w/U? .BLOCK THIS ONE Kate!
Wowers. Milo must be running low on meds. Now she's telling Kate who to block. She's angry! lol!
Leave the kids out of it? Do they not understand by making comments like real men support their children they are parental alienating Jon and hurting the kids? Do they not understand the kids adore him?
K8isGr8 did say some rude things about the kids' looks etc not related to custody or Jon
For once, I agree with Milo. That tweeter is saying some very cruel and obnoxious things about the kids.
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 U know Kate..if U had this #dream as a child..U could have been an Olympian! U have the drive, discipline & passion 2do it! :)
Kate could have been in the Olympics? As WHAT? A grifter? Yes, Milo, she'd bring home the gold for that!
"K8isGr8 did say some rude things about the kids' looks etc not related to custody or Jon"
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I thought it was LuvmyKeurig who is making some very nasty remarks about the kids. Yes, they are very rude and uncalled for. Milo has set herself up as the Great Protector. She may be on duty until Lights Out Man makes his rounds at the home. Kate can't take care of herself unless Milo is there standing watch.
She is right no one should say such vile things, that's really awful. She needs to also realize what she says is detrimental too. If she can recognize it another she is capable.
Kate is a twit said... 29
For once, I agree with Milo. That tweeter is saying some very cruel and obnoxious things about the kids
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Haven't been to Twitter to see what's going on and while Milo may be correct in her anger, I'd be a lot more impressed if she asked her BFF Kate to stop bashing Jon. And to ask her flock to do the same.
@Kateplusmy8 U know Kate..if U had this #dream as a child..U could have been an Olympian! U have the drive, discipline & passion 2do it! :)
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Good God, Milo, put a ring on her already.
For once, I agree with Milo. That tweeter is saying some very cruel and obnoxious things about the kids
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I think it's a sheeple. They pull these things from time to time. They'll bash the kids, or Jon and make up stories just to see if the haters agree with them. Then they step back and call out the haters for criticizing the kids. Nothing would surprise me.
I remember the dog story. A sheeple said here that Kate's dog was without food and water and nobody was home. Law enforcement was sent to check. The whole thing was made up, and the sheeple retreated to their barnyards and laughed about the non-fans here taking the bait.
Kate knows who to block. She doesn't need Milo's help.
Good God, Milo, put a ring on her already.
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And get a room, if you haven't done that already. One of the other sheeple, who has tweeted to Kate about how they have to get together and chat about something, keeps pestering for Kate's address. I think she wants to send a book for her to sign. If you're such good friends, couldn't she call her and ask for her address, or wouldn't she have it already?
These sheeple are amusing, aren't they? Good entertainment!
And it's wrong to be very concerned about a dog's welfare because? It's pathetic they would laugh about this. People did the RIGHT thing calling. It's not worth taking a chance.
What's disturbing is they feel no remorse from pulling a cop from his job when there could have been some other emergency he might have been needed at.
What's disturbing is they feel no remorse from pulling a cop from his job when there could have been some other emergency he might have been needed at.
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You have to "consider the source." They have no intelligence to be able to figure that out. They just thought it was funny. There is no remorse when it comes to the sheeple's devotion to Kate. They do what they want to do, when they want to do it.
Twittering And Twatteriing said... 35
Good God, Milo, put a ring on her already.
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These sheeple are amusing, aren't they? Good entertainment!
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They are! It's for that reason, as well as being fascinated by the psychology of this whole Gosselin mishegas (Yiddish for mess) that keeps me returning. I have family arriving from WI tomorrow and, in between the preparations, it's good to be able to sit down with a glass of ice water (the weather in NY is horribly hot and humid) and catch up on the latest.
I appreciate Admin's hard work - there must be days when all 'this' isn't easy.
Jane-if I may ask and you don't have to answer, where on LI do you live? I'm a fellow LIer.
Kate is a twit said... 39
Jane-if I may ask and you don't have to answer, where on LI do you live? I'm a fellow LIer.
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Oh gosh, not sure I'm comfortable answering here -- that great sheeple sleuth may come after me : ) I guess it's ok to say north shore, Nassau? Another LI-er - cool! Wonder if there are others. We could all meet at a diner and have a snark-fest!
The twitter account that was twittering about the kids has been suspended. When I said I agreed with Milo, I only meant about her telling that person to leave the kids out of it. Not about the rest.
Sometimes I think Kate's sheeple think that Kate is very insecure and helpless and needs their encouragement and devotion to go on. One even stole a quote from "The Help" telling Kate "You are kind, you are smart, you are important".
Those are things you say to people who doubt themselves, not to someone who is supposed to be strong and independent. Being supportive is one thing, but some really lay it on too thick.
But then in the case of the sheeple, they'll say anything to get a tweet from their Queen.
Jane-thanks for answering. I didn't mean for you to be specific, just general area. I'm north shore Suffolk, so we're practically neighbors!
Kate is a twit said... 43
Jane-thanks for answering. I didn't mean for you to be specific, just general area. I'm north shore Suffolk, so we're practically neighbors!
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Yup, not far at all! Lousy weather, huh? :(
Confirmed when your reading comprehension gets a little better I'll let you post again.
When I was a toddler I lived in Manhasset, LI. Does that count for anything? ;-)
Admin 44,
THANK YOU! She was getting to be insufferable...
Once in a while, the swiffer needs to come out, IMHO.
fidosmommy said... 45
When I was a toddler I lived in Manhasset, LI. Does that count for anything? ;-)
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Of course, it does! Once a LIer, always a LIer.
Permanent Name no problem. It's impossible to discuss anything with someone who is deliberately misinterpreting and misstating what was being said. I don't debate things with red herrings. Caw-caw.
Twittering and Twattering in the same vein Jon should tell Admin's "source" to tell Admin he would appreciate it if this blog would stop slamming his children's mother.
Confirmed we talk about both Jon AND Kate's misdeeds here. They are public figures and we don't hold back. We talk about their parenting, their child support, everything.
The difference is when you are tweeting Kate DIRECTLY with slams about Jon, or for that matter tweeting Jon DIRECTLY with slams about Kate, you are inviting that parent to make a public response and further alienate the other. Kate has, on many occasions, responded to such slams against Jon. No one has a right to give Kate, or Jon, an avenue to do that. They are just as guilty as Kate herself is for taking the bait.
One method is a comment about public figures. The other method is being a direct participant in parental alienation. By all means, those sheeple should gather on their own blog and discuss it, I don't have a problem with that. But to interact with either parent directly about the other is wildly inappropriate and detrimental to the children.
And it's wrong to be very concerned about a dog's welfare because? It's pathetic they would laugh about this. People did the RIGHT thing calling. It's not worth taking a chance.
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I actually contacted someone I knew to make sure that the dog was okay. Best to err on the side of caution.
Berks: Was he ok? I really worry about him too!
Twittering and Twattering in the same vein Jon should tell Admin's "source" to tell Admin he would appreciate it if this blog would stop slamming his children's mother.
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Use the source as a middleman? Why is that? How do we know that Jon even knows who the source is? If Jon wants anything stopped, he can go to admin himself.
fidosmommy said... 45
When I was a toddler I lived in Manhasset, LI. Does that count for anything? ;-)
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Small world! It sure does count!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 27
Leave the kids out of it? Do they not understand by making comments like real men support their children they are parental alienating Jon and hurting the kids? Do they not understand the kids adore him?
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I hope I am not attacked for saying this but, do you Admin, or the others here ever feel that it is hurting the kids what is said about their mother? The kids love their mother too. I feel guilty at times in what I read. Would it be better for the kids if the blogs and twitters from both sides just be quiet and not say anything bad about either parent?
What if someday we find out we were all wrong about Kate? Jon? Will the kids be angry that this all has caused undue stress for their parents?
Just Me it's a fair point and one we've discussed a lot here.
The stuff about Kate immediately yelling at new people to block the bullies: if I were a casual user of twitter and didn't know about all Kate's drama, I'd be so confused by that. Who exactly are the bullies? If you don't take a side, you can see people of all stripes acting like bullies on her twitter feed.
Also, what a weird way to welcome people. She's always playing the victim, isn't she?
Just me,
I was in an abusive situation and it was enormously gratifying to me to hear other people confirm it and to know that I wasn't crazy. I needed someone to understand what I went through and it helped me a lot to know that people did.
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I agree with you that the sheeple fail to realize that if it wasn't for the kids no one would know who Kate was. But I will go one step further. It was the tups that originally got Kate on TV. Not all eight. Twins don't make you famous. My mom did it the first time she got pregnant and she didn't need fertility drugs. Kate liked the attention and the rest is history. This is what I don't understand about the sheeple. I can't fathom that someone is that thick that they can't see what the kids did was work and not play. They may have played when the show first started and the early seasons didn't have that many shows but certainly not when the show started getting popular and they started taping more and more shows per season. Someone commented somewhere that it would take hours of taping to make a 30 minute show. And if you don't count the commercials, its a 20 minute show.
All this talk about the middle child makes me wonder if I am considered one even though I never felt like one. Older brother and sister are born, me 18 months later and another brother two years later. So technically, I was the middle pregnancy. I felt we all got treated the same and no one was favored. My younger brother and I did get into more mischief when we got older but I didn't feel like our parents loved us less. We just made them go gray sooner. Ha!
Also, I have to say something about people telling Kate she looks great. No looking your age runs in my family. My Dad will be 79 in September and he is just now starting to look his age. Mom is 74 and she still looks good. Brother and sister are 54. Don't look it. I'm 52 and when I'm out with my four year old grandson, people think he is my son. Younger brother is 50 and he is (not to sound gross) a hottie. I live a healthy lifestyle (exercise, eating properly) but they aren't into it like me and they still look good. I will brag and pat myself on the back and say I look younger than Kate. She is not going to look good when she is 50.
katiemt, I get that you needed that affirmation. But my question is what if we are wrong?
Do any of you think that Jon and Kate would do better in getting along without all this speculation?
Just Me 51, If they didn't put personal information out there then there would be nothing to speculate about.
Sorry, I meant Just Me 61, not 51
It's the price of celebrity to be talked about - the Gs should have thought of that before accepting the offer to do the show and Kate before she acts/speaks
I'm not sure I understand about the speculation. When I used to watch the show, I thought it was pretty clear that she was cruel, nasty, and heartless. Lots of other people thought so too. It doesn't seem like speculation to me. There's lots of documentation.
I have to follow up on not looking your age running in my family. My husband and I went out to lunch with our oldest daughter and her boyfriend last weekend. When we ordered our drinks, she was asked for ID. We all started laughing and the waitress looked at us funny until she saw my daughter's birthdate on her drivers license. She turned 30 in May.
It would be wonderful if we were all wrong about Kate. I would love nothing more than for those kids to have an emotionally stable upbringing and have happy, balanced lives.
Can we find instances where Kate has shown us wrong when she's not tweeting or posing for a picture? Could we put together a montage of Kate being a good parent, loving wife, kind neighbor, interested person? Could locals, former co-workers, school administrators, kids' teachers, etc prove us wrong? Bring it on. I would love to see it. Really.
(This is Remona)
Just Me said... 55
''What if someday we find out we were all wrong about Kate? Jon? Will the kids be angry that this all has caused undue stress for their parents?''
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Speaking only for myself, after hour after hour of watching Jon & Kate + 8, I am positive that I'm not wrong about the way Kate treated the kids and Jon. I'm positive that JON did most of the hands on care of the children while Kate ordered him to do this and that and ignored the kids. Kate had no problem behaving that way in front of the cameras, and from the beginning, I worried that if she was that bad in public for the cameras she knew were there, then how bad was she behind closed doors? I know what I saw/heard, so I'm not concerned one little bit that I may be wrong about Kate!!
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katiemt said... 58
''I was in an abusive situation and it was enormously gratifying to me to hear other people confirm it and to know that I wasn't crazy. I needed someone to understand what I went through and it helped me a lot to know that people did.''
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I agree, katiemt!!
Remona
I hope the girls had a wonderful time and maybe Jason gave the girls hair cuts?, Deanna, a little make session or spa, shopping? I hope so. Kate did ask Deanna if she was ready for some adventure?
One interesting tweet from Kate, about Jon & paying no CS. Kate tweeted something back like: This is what good moms do for their kids. Don't know if that is a slap to Jon or a good thing.
(This is Remona)
katiemt said... 64
''I'm not sure I understand about the speculation. When I used to watch the show, I thought it was pretty clear that she was cruel, nasty, and heartless. Lots of other people thought so too. It doesn't seem like speculation to me. There's lots of documentation.''
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I agree. I said the same thing, but you said it best!
Remona
Kate looks as if she is the mother of the two blondes in the photo.
Just Me #60, you ask if Jon and Kate would get along better without all of this speculation. I haven't read everyone else's comments yet, but I seriously doubt it.
Kate went public with the problems between her and Jon from the beginning, once it became public. She was on the cover of People multiple times talking about it, going on talk shows talking about it, even addressing it in her couch interviews on her show.
Every time she was bashing Jon, and then started doing it on twitter. She is the one who has continuously kept this a public issue, and therefore, the public is going to comment on it.
Kate did this herself.
Oh Lord it has begun. Yahoo top article is saying Jon is broke and cannot support his kids and everyone is buying into it and railing on him. I wish Jon and Kate would stop talking about money PERIOD. No one needs to know what they have or do not have.
Its also sickening to see everyone believing kate magnanimously offered to absolve Jon of child support. IS no jouralist responsible enough to follow up on that statement to see why he really no longer pays? Ugh. This is the one and only time I wish Jon would speak up and not mention money but instead just say "I am pleased that custody is now a 50/50 even split. I am so happy to have my chilren in my life more" I wouldn't even want him to say that but it pains me to see him bashed on Yahoo and getting kate's name back up there as poor mom of 8 with a deadbeat dad. It's all starting back up again.
Someone please get the plunger. This turd will not flush. Kate is a floater for sure.
wish Jon would sue for defamation to some of these rags. I'm all for being silent..but in this case his inaction is screaming guilt in the eyes of the public. Stay silent..but SUE if its incorrect. Make it stop Jon. He needs to make people afraid to slander him for the sake of his kids. It must be hell for those kids to hear so many terrible things about their parents. heck kate too should sue if whats written about her is truly not true.
Instead of chasing limelight and validation of themselves thru the media these 2 should realize they are BOTH considered as tabloid trash. They should try their hardest to STAY OUT OF THE TABLOIDS. THeir kids can see the screaming headlines everytime they go into a store for crying out loud. Do they have enough sense to try and make that stop? How embarassing for the children.
These kids arent Jolie-Pitts who are sheltered and will have clout/power with their last names. These poor kids are Gosselins. The Gosselin name is the butt of national jokes. Clown car vaginas, deadbeat dad, and media whore jokes follow these 2 parents. No one is going to hold back on teasing the G8 becasue their parent s are rich and powerful..Just the opposite..these kids will be openly teased because their parent have zero clout. Why wouldn't a school bully taunt the G8? They are easy picking since their parents' whole life is splashed out there for the media.
The G8 are living in Pennsylvania! Not Hollywood where having a tabloid fodder parent is common. I couldn't imagine living in a semi small town in PA and seeing my parents and siblings splashed on tabloid covers each week. It must be traumatizing now that these kids can read and understand gossip. They honestly can not have one friend in PA who can relate to what they are enduring. I know I have no friends who are tabloid fodder. Can you imagine what it must be like for them? I mean really think about it. What if growing up you were the only kid in school who was in the tabloids?
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Everyone knows all the G8 names, who their parents are..who is crying poor this week. Who is sleeping with who. Who is dating a bodyguard..who has braces..who pooped..who is being teased on Leno tonight.
If there was ever a reason to lay low..it should be for the Gosselin 8. These children do not need this embarrassment. And their parents are embarrassing. Yes I like Jon the best..but he sucks at presentation to the media so he should stop talking to them. Both should make their twitter private as well. Yes they have the right to be "normal" and have twitter..but guess what..their lives arent normal. They have bat shit crazy fans and haters. Get off twitter and have some respect for the children who do not deserve to be surrounded by this madness JOn and KAte!!! ITS SHAMEFUL HOW YOU LIVE YOUR LIVES IN THE MEDIA.
Jon I know you are trying to do better but its not working. Public opion is bad again ever since you came back out. I know you want to make good money and i know you think media is where it is at..but what is the cost to the kids.
As for kate she is a lost cause but bitch needs to STFU for once in her life. I have never dislked someone i have not met but i earnestly dislike her very much. She is a horrid, teasing, cloying, vapid, spiteful, greedy woman.
I AM SO ANGRY ON BEHLAF OF CARA,MADY,COLIN,JOEL,AADEN,ALEXIA,HANNAH AND LEAH
Replying to WOW...
Yes the ADAM BOMB article WAS derogatory to the children. But IMO this is what they have to look forward to and will have to deal with for the rest of their lives. The children can thank their parents for these kinds of articles.
admin i too notice a lot of "TWINS and KATE" time. Now that the twins are older and easier and finally know how to help kate they are her new besties.
I wonder if now that Jon has 50/50 if kate is guilting the girls into staying with her more while the tups go to Jons. Kate is trying to buy the older girls affections and to keep them parentified by having them take care of Mommy becasue she is "oh so sad that Daddy has taken more custody but doesnt pay money".
A. This is not fair to put this on the twins if it is true.
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B It is not fair to the "littles' to see mommy all but dump them now that their ATM's have dried up.
When do we ever hear about kate and the tups out and about doing special things. Its not their fault they are a 6 pack. Take them out in small grupos or alone kate. DAMN
I dont think kate is in a panic over GosselinBook. Her lies have come to light before and she always skates thru. Im sure she belives no one will believe the "lies" juust like in the past. She also knows the sheeple will rabidly defend her. Kate lives in a bubble. I dont think she is all that worried. Sure she may have wanted to stop the book..but i dont think she is quaking in her boots eitehr. Besides the book will keep her name in the media and she can "set the record straight" on a media blitz.
People who grow up in truly abusive homes typically don't realize it unless there is someone outside of the sick family system who intervenes. As we all know, Kate ousted all of those people once they became inconvenient to her and stopped defending the status quo.
It isn't about who got what and who didn't. Some people never get a glimpse outside of their sick family system because, as I already posted, they are repeating their family scripts. When they do get that glimpse, they wonder if they are crazy--as expressed by someone else. I began to realize how abusive my father was when I would drop a casual anecdote from my childhood and was met with startled looks and dropped jaws.
Dissatisfied kids grow up into dissatisfied adults, and, I agree, this does not mean that they were abused--Some people are just put together that way. And I completely agree with the poster who said that every child is born into different circumstances. This is absolutely the case in my family and those are normal variations that are found in every family. The kinds of things that other posters and I are referring to are very hard to describe. Simple words really can't convey the fear and emptiness, and I completely understand when people try to understand using their own family system as a point of reference--if you haven't experienced it, it is unimaginable. As an adult survivor of child abuse, I know it when I see it. And, in Kate, I see it. Her denial, which seems to have taken the form of narcissism, is so massive, it will be an apocalyse if she ever bottoms out. Sad for her and even sadder for her children.
Coincidentally, I am reading a memoir that focuses on a dysfunctional, alcoholic family, that is written with great wit and greater cynicism. It is called "Fiction Killed My Family", by Jeannie Darst. Pretty good portrayal of the kind of chaotic upbringing that I experienced.
ExNurse -- It sounds like you took much of the negative from your past and turned into experience to help others. Professionally and personally, you chose a different path. You are to be admired.
We should all do as well. Thank you.
Ex Nurse, I'm so sorry for all you went through as a child. As I detailed on previous threads, I am also an adult survivor of child abuse so I know how it effects us.
However, I respectfully disagree about Kate. I could very well be wrong, but I've never gotten the impression that her actions are because she wa an abused child. She reminds me of the "mean girls" we all knew in school, except they grew out of it. Kate only got worse.
My opinion is that she was catered to and that is why she is so nasty and expects everyone to continuously cater to her. If they don't, they are out of her life because they don't know how to help her.
Also, as a mom, I never left my daughter with the person that inflicted the abuse on me all of those years. However, Kate's parents took care of the twins for weeks when the Kate was hospitalized and the tups were born. Both her and Jon said that on the show. Then after the money and perks started rolling in, she cut her parents out and said that they didn't know how to help them.
It's my opinion that Kate just seems to suck the life out of everyone close to her and when they can give no more, they're out. Once again, this is just my opinion.
Ex Nurse said - "Coincidentally, I am reading a memoir that focuses on a dysfunctional, alcoholic family, that is written with great wit and greater cynicism. It is called "Fiction Killed My Family", by Jeannie Darst. Pretty good portrayal of the kind of chaotic upbringing that I experienced."
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This is by no means criticism or snark, but because I'm interested. Why would you want to read something like this? Wouldn't you want it be part of your past and move on? I understand that it may help you to come to grips with what happened to you, but at the same time, isn't it just an unhealthy reminder of what happened to you?
Also, as a mom, I never left my daughter with the person that inflicted the abuse on me all of those years. However, Kate's parents took care of the twins for weeks when the Kate was hospitalized and the tups were born. Both her and Jon said that on the show. Then after the money and perks started rolling in, she cut her parents out and said that they didn't know how to help them.
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I'm glad you were able to see right away this person was toxic and not let your own kids around them. But it can take some abused children years before they get to that point of recognition and some never will. There are countless adult victims who still see their parents and countless more who didn't cut off their parents until some time had passed.
Kate not cutting off her parents until later doesn't prove or disprove to me any kind of abuse. Only that it took her awhile before she was at the point where she wanted to do that. Kate may be blindsided when some of the children end up estranging her because it might not happen for them at age 18, it may not happen until they are 30 or 35 years old--it can take that long.
Admin, I understand what you are saying. However, I did not cut my mother out of my life. I still saw and spoke with her at family get togethers and my daughter called her grandma. She would take my daughter out for lunch, but I was always there.
My contact with her was minimal. My point was I never let my daughter be alone with her.
My understanding of the rift between Kate and her parents came after the sextuplets were born. The Kreider's church volunteered to ready the house for the expanded family and put out a plea for gently used clothing, furniture, etc. My understanding is that Kate hated the house remodeling and rejected the cribs because they didn't match and the clothes because they were used and not from a hign-end store. Even though a TV show stepped in to complete the remodeling, the Kreider's church was very upset about Kate's dismissal of their work to do something nice for the family. It was about this time that the grandparents seemed to be gone, but Kevin and Jodi stayed.
I must admit, the remodeling was really over the top as far as bright and, well, ugly. But the story was that Kate was not the least bit
appreciative of any of it, including the baby
items. She and Jon just made a list of the things they didn't get and wanted. Name brands included, I believe.
Others who remember this better, edit this as needed. I admit my memory isn't sharp any more.
LovemyGrandsons I am soooo glad you were able to recognize the safety problem. So many grown adults don't. And part of the reason probably is BECAUSE of the abuse their sense of boundaries has been destroyed.
So true, Admin. Abused children don't know boundaries, even as an adult. A great book that my counselor had me read was titled "Boundaries". It addressed the whole issue and was a big help to me to understand my own issues.
So, she has not answered the direct question about whether she has the kids 50/50 yet, but does in her oh so very carefully worded ways, does not dispute or clarify this person tweet, leading people to believe she did agree for Jon to stop CS payments because she just doing what any good mom would do... " oh my, I am gonna gag!!"
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@Kateplusmy8 You are one incredible woman Kate. I just read what you did 4 John. U R Wonderful! ♥
kateplusmy8 @****** kind words, always appreciated. Just trying to do my best, like ALL moms who love their kids :)
uhm, way past time to stop...Jon tweeted that he was looking forward to going to work on Monday and that they all keep writing and he'll keep working. He doesnt have to tweet to the world what he is or is not doing or whether he is taking tabloids to task..... it is a Tabloid!!! They are like Kate, very good at carefully wording what they say. perhaps that quote was one from 3 years ago, so they technically are not lying. It happens all the time, sad but true!
guess that post from way past time disappeared, or I am going cwazy...lol...
I’m still not clear on the source for Kate’s alleged abuse as a child, but it seems to be an “alleged” explanation for much of her adult behavior (familial alienation, rigidity with the kids, etc. etc).
How about an alternative explanation for her behavior: Perhaps Kate alienates her family because they didn’t agree with her use/abuse of fertility treatments, or even with her and Jon’s decision to put their family on TV. Maybe some very wise relatives advised against rushing into unnecessary medical interventions (considering how young – and newly married – Kate and Jon were when they used fertility treatments). Perhaps some relatives didn’t agree with the exploitation of the children, or with Kate’s and Jon’s incessant grifting. If Kate is the classic narcissist she seems to be, then anyone who opposes her is going to be written off as not being able to “help her.” In her mind, she’s a constant victim.
I’ve known a few “middle children” from large families, and a few of the ones I know are manipulative, cunning, and self-absorbed. They constantly complain about what they didn’t have, and find true joy in “getting” from others – in an almost vindictive way. They feel they’ve been “robbed” somehow by being the middle child. Most of their grievances are absurd, selfish, and childish. My opinion is that Kate is just an immature narcissist who wanted a life better than the one her parents provided for her. Just as she coveted a life better than the one Jon could provide. She dumped her parents. She dumped Jon.
I’ve never gotten the sense that her bad parenting and lack-of-attachment to the kids were the fallout from some past abuse. I just think she’s completely self-absorbed, and has no interest in anyone who does not follow her agenda. Kate seems to cut people off once they don’t agree with her. Case in point: the minute Jon was done with the show, Kate divorced him. Others have speculated that Beth may have called Kate out on some issue, and was therefore summarily dismissed (despite all she had done for Kate). Jodi and her husband were pushed to the curb when they expressed concerns about the kids’ exposure on TV. If you’re not towing Kate’s line, you’re thrown out like yesterday’s trash. That doesn’t sound like an abuse-survivor to me. It sounds like a selfish bitch who dismisses all the nay-sayers from her life, no matter how sensible their thoughts might be.
Griftopia, I agree 100% with all you said.
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Kate not cutting off her parents until later doesn't prove or disprove to me any kind of abuse. Only that it took her awhile before she was at the point where she wanted to do that.
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As fidosmommys just said I think the story goes that the tipping point came when Kate and her parents had a huge dustup which led to a parting of the ways when she rejected the cribs donated by the parishioners of her dad's church. I don't remember if Kate has ever addressed whether or not that is true. Maybe, probably, they knew what she was like and once that happened Kate dug in her heels and decided to show them who's boss of her kids.
Anyway...looking for a story someone mentioned here when I found this pic and wondered if anyone had seen it yet. It is a strikingly different person from the Kate Gosselin of five years ago. Yikes.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/04/article-2183527-14600BF1000005DC-19_233x699.jpg
Griftopia Admin is the originator of the Kate-was-abused rumor.
REally? Feeling sorry for Jon? He signed up for this life. Even re-married his idiot ex wife.
I can't stand Jon apologists.
Griftopia 89, sounds right to me, too. She also blocks anyone on Twitter who does not worship her. Same exact treatment.
The narcissist I knew (professionally diagnosed, btw) would immediately turn on you if you called her out on something and that would also make you her target from then on. As long as you stayed within the narrow parameters of what she deemed acceptable all was well. She had a very, very small circle of friends, that could change daily. One perceived transgression and you were out. Kate acts the same way, IMO.
I think we need an exterminator. Lately there have been some drive-bys here with huge bugs up their asses.
capecodmama - He's just one more revolting "human being." I don't know exactly where his territory over there is, but I expect it started out beautiful. Has it just been left unfinished as piles of dirt or what?
I never went to Aberdeen - unless that's where you get the boat to the Orkneys. Can't remember. Oh well. Did you have any interest in the traditional music over there?
Anyway...looking for a story someone mentioned here when I found this pic and wondered if anyone had seen it yet. It is a strikingly different person from the Kate Gosselin of five years ago. Yikes.
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Double yikes. What is that? Full front, no less, which is rare. Very classy. Maybe this is one of the outfits her "personal shopper" bought for her, forgot to keep the receipt and she couldn't return it. Since it was paid for, she wore it. That's really bad, isn't it?
they're both idiots said... 93
REally? Feeling sorry for Jon? He signed up for this life. Even re-married his idiot ex wife.
I can't stand Jon apologists
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Please expand on the statement "even re-married his idiot ex wife".
I think we need an exterminator. Lately there have been some drive-bys here with huge bugs up their asses.
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lol! I guess bugs aren't as painful as sticks, but probably just as difficult to remove.
As much as I dislike moderation, I think maybe it's time.
I can't stand Jon apologists
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I can't stand snippy, snotty drive-bys!
Moose - I was struck by how she looks like an undernourished homeless person who someone took pity on and dressed - but forgot to feed. She looks terrible.
EM said... 76
I dont think kate is in a panic over GosselinBook. Her lies have come to light before and she always skates thru. Im sure she belives no one will believe the "lies" juust like in the past. She also knows the sheeple will rabidly defend her. Kate lives in a bubble. I dont think she is all that worried. Sure she may have wanted to stop the book..but i dont think she is quaking in her boots eitehr. Besides the book will keep her name in the media and she can "set the record straight" on a media blitz.
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That doesn't explain the letter sent to Hoffman from her very high priced attorneys.
What about liars? Can you stand liars? How about those who "speculate" just to start rumors? Can you stand them?
What about liars? Can you stand liars?
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Liars as in liars like Kate? Nope. Speculators like those who start rumors to get their idols dating shows? Nope.
What's Next, out of curiosity how did that narcissist you know get diagnosed? You don't have to say if you don't want to.
That does seem to be Kate, the slightest little misstep on twitter and you get blocked.
The drivebys are here because even Kate won't reassure them about custody. If it's not true why not just say so and stop the questions? Or maybe she could be a bigger person and just admit it.
Our "visitor" is referring to their vow renewal ceremony, the one where Kate got her Kleinfeld experience and everyone got a free trip to Hawaii.
I can't stand Jon apologists, says the guest.
Then, sir or madam, please go where they are not to be found. Several dwell here so this may not be your blog of choice. Then again, you may be
a "Rick" which is a name I give to all those who
get on these blogs just to be a pain. You are doing Rick proud, I'm sure. And yes, Rick is a real person with a really difficult personality when he can get away with it.
Please expand on the statement "even re-married his idiot ex wife".
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Free Hawaiian trip, anyone?
Please expand on the statement "even re-married his idiot ex wife".
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Free Hawaiian trip, anyone?
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lol! That's not a re-marriage. It's a wedding renewal. A re-marriage occurs when the party has been legally divorced and they get married again.
Admin,
She was the spouse of a relative. They divorced and I think in an effort to keep him in her life she agreed to go to a psychiatrist. She liked to play the victim and he is a rescuer type so she played to his sympathy. He insisted that she get an evaluation. He showed me a copy of the evaluation. It said that she was a Narcissist and that there was no treatment or therapy available that would address her issues. It also said that she found enjoyment in mistreating others.
She was very rude to restaurant staff, sales clerks, the people who maintained her lawn, really anyone that was in the service industry that she felt was beneath her and she liked to brag about how inferior they were and how she had dismissed them. (I guess they didn't know how to help her).
Another relative went with her to Europe and said she targeted one tour guide and was terrible to her. Travel companion told me that she was ready to come home before going to Paris because Narcissist was being so awful to Tour guide.
Kate reminds me so much of her. Thankfully, she is out of my family's life.
Moose - I was struck by how she looks like an undernourished homeless person who someone took pity on and dressed - but forgot to feed. She looks terrible.
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Absolutely. I looked at that outfit and the boots and all I could think of was Karen Carpenter, who looked better than that.
When was that taken?
Jon had tweeted that he was sick of all the BS going on and he was going to stop tweeting. His account is now closed.
Seriously, both of them have done a lot wrong but I don't understand why Jon gets attacked and beaten down so much and Kate comes out looking like she is Mother Theresa.
What's Next thanks, that's so fascinating. Forgive my fascination, but it's so rare to get diagnosed so I'm intrigued.
Do you know how long it took her to get diagnosed? A ton of sessions or could they tell right away. How did she take this, did she deny it? Again only share what you're comfortable with.
Big news!!!
@XXXXX Jon Gosselin Quit Twitter! But Kate Gosselin is Still Going Strong! What Happened? http://t.co/wEOHgb7X @Kateplusmy8
From Kate's twitter feed... Story at that link.
Sure enough, his twitter page is now protected.
Admin, I honestly don't know the answers to that. I do know that the doctors thought she had the early stages of Alzheimers so that diagnosis might have been part of the testing she underwent for that, but this behaviour was not Alzheimers related. She wasn't just being mean, a lot of what she did was very calculated.
Another relative also witnessed a very fake (she was not a good actress) crying spell. Witness saw her sitting in a waiting room perfectly calm, then she got up and starting walking, loudly wailing and acting like she was crying. Very theatrical. It was part of plan to manipulate a situation where those in authority in a business wouldn't agree to her wishes. If she couldn't boss her way around, she would try different techniques to get her way.
"When was that taken?"
The Sirius logo is behind her so I guess it's when she went for the radio interview in DC which was a couple of months ago.
Maybe it's best Jon is off twitter. Kate should be off it, but she loves the drama and she thinks she needs it for her so-called career.
Absolutely. I looked at that outfit and the boots and all I could think of was Karen Carpenter, who looked better than that.
When was that taken?
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Karen Carpenter all over again, for sure. The article is from the 4 August 2012 daily mail uk but they used a photo taken from last October when she was on Raw Dog Comedy's "The Phone Show" At SiriusXM.
She looked a little healthier yesterday at the BlogHer conference. Her weight obviously fluctuates.
I absolutely think it's a better thing that Jon's deleted his Twitter account.
He's right to keep his focus on the kids, instead of engaging those who park themselves on his Twitter feed, for better and worse. There's no reason to think their kids' lives are enhanced in any way by 140-character discussions/debates with absolute strangers.
Now if he'd just steer clear of the media altogether, that'd be even better. Baby steps....
A rectoid bug said, "I can't stand Jon apologists"
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Then grab your coat, get the hell off the blog and join the Twitter crowd. You'll fit in quite well there when the sheeple wake up tomorrow and resume their Jon bashing. Don't forget to take your attitude with you.
#118, OMG, you are cracking me up. Everything from your name to the term "rectoid bug". I'm just glad I'm not drinking anything or I'd be having to buy a new laptop.
Jon tweeted that his tweeter jongosselin1 got hacked. So he is back on twitter with jongosselin01. And it is NOT protected. I was just on it a minute ago.
Has anyone seen or heard about the article that Jon supposedly did in Star magazine. Any news about if there is such an article or not? Remember this "article" started all this mess a few days ago.
Enjoyed some British comedies on PBS this evening. In particular, " Keeping Up Appearances". Gotta love Hyacinth Bucket ("it's Bouquet!") with her candle light suppers using her Royal Doulton with the hand painted perriwinkles, or name dropping here sister Violet who drives a Mercedes and has house and yard big enough for a pony. Of course her white slim line phone.
Any chance Ms Kate picked up this behavior watching said show?
Nahhh. She's just a pompous one-upper all on her own.
Now back to gritting an upgrade for our heirloom faux ultra suede brown Lazy-Boy recliner spaceship. Surely, I am not getting the hang of the grifting. A personal embarrassment as I am 50% Hungarian Gypsy/traveler stock and should KNOW these things. I have been so distracted by the bugle thing...
Until there is a Twitter verified check mark I'm not going to be positive that is Jon Gosselin. Too many sheep have gotten out of the pasture.
Jon tweeted that his tweeter jongosselin1 got hacked. So he is back on twitter with jongosselin01. And it is NOT protected. I was just on it a minute ago.
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I seriously doubt it's Jon. It's not verified, and the language doesn't sound like Jon. I'll believe it when I see that it's legit.
What's Next? said... 122
You might be right I mean when has Jon ever tweeted to Kate?
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Jon Gosselin @jongosselin01
@Kateplusmy8 Kate, my account got hacked! RT for fans!
The new Jon Gosselin account is gone. It doesn't exist. That was short-lived!
Here comes Honey Boo Boo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtjKYgS49s&feature=player_embedded
Well, wonder how Miss Katie Irene aka TLC's original "a dolla makes me holla" girl feels about this family taking her place and her $$$$.
Can you imagine the money being offered to this clan?
Yes, Katie Irene, that use to be your spot. Miss it don'tcha
Wonder if they will need a Steve.
Hmmm?
(disclaimer: the piglet is the prettiest thing on the promo as well as the slimmest)
Robert Fan 2012
Anastasia
"lifts shirt for Gosselin Book"
May I add that I am sure the whole show will contain subtitles.
How can it not, I didnt understand a word of that promo and Im southern!
Lovely isnt it Katie?
And yes, to all the sheeple who drop by, I did watch TLC and felt completely superior.
Still do...obviously!
That is all,
Sincerely,
Robert Fan 2012
Anastasia
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Jason Backe@JasonHueman
@Kateplusmy8 it was so fun to meet your girls!!! Awesome kids!!! And ps you look freakin amazing! Xoxo
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Does anyone actually say "so fun" rather than "so much fun" apart from Kate? I don't think I've ever heard it before.
And I always thought Coffeemate was pretty much 100% chemicals. I guess I should go Google it...
Arent' we allowed to hate both Jon AND Kate? Or not?
Jon's slightly better than Kate but that's not hard.
Oh, come on, Kiwi, Hyacinth is snooty but she's not MEAN. :-)
Jon's new twitter acct. at jongosselin01 may have been a fake. The account no longer exists as of this moment. Weird...but that is to be expected!
Because they would have to go to the school within their district, and it is a large public school system compared to where they are now. In the public school, there are more kids in one elementary school than the total number of students in lower, middle and upper school in their current school. The student-teacher ratio in the public school averages 16 to 1; in their current school it averages 6 or 8 to 1. So yes, it would be huge to them.
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Wow Berks, that is a SMALL school, 16-1 ratio. Are you kidding me? That is a tiny school! When I was in school it was 30-1 in grammar school and 28-1 high school. I went to school in LA (the ghetto part, not the rich part) and when my daughter went to school in a super nice public school in Huntington Beach, her class ratio was 20-1, and that was small. You guys have tiny schools.
Also, when I was in high school we had metal detectors and uniformed security at all times. I was class of 90. I guess it all depends on where you grow up.
In the past 48 hours Jon has been outed as a douche bag who doesn't pay child support and won't be ever again, who held the Director of Sales and Marketing job at Gameface for a mere 8 weeks, who is reportedly filing for bankruptcy, was so trashed on the internet he deleted his twitter account, and is the most hated reality star ever.
Gee, you'd think someone had a revealing tell all book on Kate to release, lol
Agreed, mama mia. Simply amazing the attacks on Jon just when the Gosselinbook is about to be released. I think this is what Kate spends her time on: figuring out ways to trash Jon. Nobody will ever convince me she hates his guts for the divorce and not playing along to keep the show on the air. I am thrilled Jon calls BS and closed his Twitter account.
I guess Kate used Deanna as her babysitter for the twins in NYC. No way was PB watching the girls. He was there at the convention. Isn't it something how she acts like people she surrounds herself with are friends when in reality she pays them? Think about the RV trip. When she was having that angry tirade after pizzagate, she said Jamie and Ashley were paid employees. She buys their loyalty and to keep their mouths shut. Same with Deanna. Kate has plenty of money, they want some, and the relationship works for Kate who buys their friendship and silence.
Gosselinbook has this tweet posted under Kate's picture. Is this a tweet by Kate in response to someone who accuses her of being racist?? What does c color mean?
REALLY??!Wow!A busy mom misses tweet& I’m accused of being racist?
Harsh! I dont c color–God made us all! Have a fun day!
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For TLC stinks asked, "What does c color mean? I think he doesn't see color meaning he isn't a racist.
Re: Group photo heading this blog.
Couldn't quite "put my finger on it", but whowever said Kate looks like the mother of the other two blondes perfectly described my reaction to the photo.
Thanks, Maggie. Not much into Twitter shorthand. Not even sure who the tweet was from. Must be some reason Gosselinbook posted it.
TLC stinks said... 136
Gosselinbook has this tweet posted under Kate's picture. Is this a tweet by Kate in response to someone who accuses her of being racist?? What does c color mean?
REALLY??!Wow!A busy mom misses tweet& I’m accused of being racist?
Harsh! I dont c color–God made us all! Have a fun day!
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Kate was responding to a tweeter who'd been trying, repeatedly and without success, to capture Kate's attention about something important (at least to her). When Kate kept overlooking her, responded to others instead, she intimated Kate was being racist. Kate apparently saw THAT tweet, and snapped (see above). The twitterer backed down and apologized all over herself. If I'm recalling correctly, Kate told her she was forgiven.
Maggie and TLC stinks,
That is a tweet from Kate. She doesn't see color as in the color of one's skin. Trying to say she isn't a racist. Without seeing the other tweets I can only surmise someone accused her of being racist for not answering a tweet from a person of color.
Must be something in the book that shows her being racist is all I can figure.
Someone suggested on Preesi that Hoffman may release the book on Aug. 15, the one year anniversary date TLC fired her.
Thanks for the explanation of the tweet. There must be some reason he posted it. Drip, drip, drip.
TLC stinks said... 139
"Thanks, Maggie. Not much into Twitter shorthand. Not even sure who the tweet was from. Must be some reason Gosselinbook posted it."
I saw that and wondered too. I think the point of it shows the level of Kate's narcissism.
When people are fawning over her she has time to tweet and retweet non stop. If someone says something not nice, she has time to "set the record straight" and block the offending tweetie, but if it's not about her at all she usually ignores it claiming to be a "busy mom".
I don't know, that's just my take on it.
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Ha, that's one of my favorite shows! The cast is amazing and the writing hilarious. Just saw the one where she thought Rose's new bf was a wealthy Greek and she had a pre-lunch hors d'oevres gathering. So funny.
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Where is this pic of Kate and the 'blond' twins?
I guess if Kate is going down she is going to make darn sure Jon goes down, too.
Now that the "new" Jon Gosselin Twitter account is gone I have no doubt it was a fake. In the first place why would Jon post saying he was closing his twitter and then open a new one with an almost identical name? Secondly, what would be the point be of closing one and immediately opening another. That would just present a new playground for more of the same. Makes no sense.
Sheeple at play.
I saw the back-and-forth on Twitter re Jon & Kate's custody agreement/finances, and I posted the article about him deleting his Twitter account when I saw it.
News to me, but I think I might've missed something. I scrolled back through this post, but I can't find anything here that points to whatever it was that finally led him to delete his Twitter account. Can anyone enlighten me?
It is interesting, that tweet. We assume she's not racist given she married Jon. Well, Robert, show us your cards on this, please.
I don't think Kate is racist- she wanted to adopt that half African- American baby, and her kids are part Asian. 'The more Asian the better.' Although she does spell it 'Asain!"
Improbable, I don't know the exact details either, but from what I can piece together his twitter had become a trash heap of sheep pellets. He saw that his Twitter was only providing them a place for the herd to gather, so he closed it.
I have no idea the point of Robert posting that tweet. She has tweeted plenty that show better her narcissism. Remember the title of his book, "How She Fooled the World". I guess we just wait and see. He loves to dribble it out.
I don't think she is racist. She doesn't discriminate, she treats everyone who doesn't "know how to help her" poorly. Right now her fans "know how to help her" by going after Jon, thus the "Thank you" and "xo" tweets. Bo Peep has to make sure she doesn't lose her sheep.
I guess it will all make sense when the book comes out.
What's Next? said... 148
Improbable, I don't know the exact details either, but from what I can piece together his twitter had become a trash heap of sheep pellets. He saw that his Twitter was only providing them a place for the herd to gather, so he closed it.
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Thanks. They've dropped pellets on his Twitter feed for a long while now, haven't they? I guess the stink finally did him in. Noticing that the pile o' dung is growing ever larger on Kate's Twitter feed. Maybe she has a higher tolerance for that?
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LaLaLandNoMore said... 11
Another article is on there showing off Kate in her red bandage dress. Why?
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That's red BONDAGE dress.LOL
I am convinced KKate is into S&M....she can't decide which part she likes best...LOL.
One minute she looks like a dominatrix the next the submissive...:)
I come to this bog to read funny things. I find Ms Kreider boring. I enjoy reading about gardening, recipes, grandchildren, pets. I love discussing Dancing With Them There Stars! I am still hoping for a home organization tips thread.
I find out very funny when the readers of this blog are categorically dismissed as ”haters”. I do not care enough about Ms Kreider to have any emotion about her. Boring = no emotional investment.
Trying to catch up on the twitter drama. It seems strange to me that Jon would quit Twitter without confirming he has 50/50 custody if that were true. Then again it's strange to me that he would complain about having to pay child support if he was actually relinquished from it (if true). Thinking about it, here is what I think happened. Maybe someone could match the timeline up...first Jon said no filming for the kids. Then, earlier this year Kate and Jon both came out and said the kids miss filming and Jon said, iirc that he would not necessarily be averse to the kids on tv. I think the cs agreement did not have to do with physical custody but with legal custody. I have custody in PA and they are two separate things (maybe that's how it is everywhere?). I think he agreed to give her full legal custody or at least permission to film kids in exchange for not having to pay cs. I think he is in arrears, which is what he can't keep up with. I think she figured that she could get a show if the kids were on it, and would not need Jon's money, and if the kids were not on a show, she finally realized she would not get a show at all. I don't think she banked on still not being able to get a show. So once again, the kids are the ATMs. This is purely speculation, but based on some good circumstantial evidence. If you get up and the ground was wet, you can be pretty sure it rained. IMO
Localyocul said... 154
Interesting and a possibility. One thing is for sure, it has to benefit her in some way or she won't go for it voluntarily. Note I said voluntarily.
Someone is advising KT on how to dress. The bondage dress gives the illusion of curves. And, yes, she does look nice in a dress that she has't been taken to the hemmer's to have the bottom whacked off, looking like part of it is missing, and stripping away the original design. Must be ElyS or whoever furnishes her TV dresses seeing that she is getting some of that are more flattering to her straight frame.
I am glad that Jon closed his Twitter. It served no purpose whatsoever, except as a playground for the handful of diehards to bait and switch.
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Exactly. I feel so bad for those kids. I liked Jon during the show, was disappointed in his behavior during divorce but chalked it up to PTSD or something, thought he saw the light, and and disappointed in him again. Kate, well I've thought she was a selfish bitch since the Toys R Us epi and have never changed my mind on that. Sigh.
Perhaps Jon shut down his twitter as a prelude to Kate's outing in Robert's book? Whatever his reason, it's about time one of them STFU. I am tired of Jon popping off with his declared undying love for his woman of the month.
What's Next? said... 155
Localyocul said... 154
Interesting and a possibility. One thing is for sure, it has to benefit her in some way or she won't go for it voluntarily. Note I said voluntarily.
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Has it been established that Kate voluntarily agreed to 50/50 or did she do it kicking and screaming?
Off topic . . .
Readerlady? Help!!! We came home from church today to find a kitten in one of our cat carriers. Our son had gone to work and pulled the little guy (or girl?) out of a burn pile. It was caught in a wire crate. He didn't know what to do with it, so he brought it home and put it in our cat carrier. We have four pets already, so our house is full. I know shelters won't take it - I've been in this situation with stray cats before. I've asked around a bit and posted on Facebook. Do you have any suggestions for me? Thanks in advance. :)
Mrs M:
I know you are asking readerlady, but just wanted to say how kind & decent of your son to rescue the kitty. Maybe your vet could help? Wish I could help. Hope a solution is found :/
Thank you Once! As much as I don't want to deal with this right now, it warms my heart that my 19 year old would care enough to rescue a tiny kitten. I'm afraid my daughter is already falling in love with it. It really is so stinkin' cute. Ugh!
Gee... I hate to be the sheeple the that have been saddled with the Kate-less cruise this month.
Tropical storms, Ernesto & Florence, are going to make it a very bumpy ride.
"I am tired of Jon popping off with his declared undying love for his woman of the month."
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Woman of the month? The divorce was in December of 2009. That would mean that he popped off 31 times with his love for a woman? I recall Hailey, Ellen and Liz. Were there 28 more?
"I think he agreed to give her full legal custody or at least permission to film kids in exchange for not having to pay cs."
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Unless there's a definite show under contract, I can't imagine her giving up child support without knowing that there's money coming in from a show. What if a show doesn't materialize? That means that she's stuck with no show and no child support.
Butterfly said,
Are you kidding me? That is a tiny school! When I was in school it was 30-1 in grammar school and 28-1 high school. I went to school in LA (the ghetto part, not the rich part) and when my daughter went to school in a super nice public school in Huntington Beach, her class ratio was 20-1, and that was small. You guys have tiny schools.
The public schools are not all that "small." That's one of the schools in her district. There's one public school that has a 30-1 ratio, with nearly 3,000 in grades 9-12, with more students in the graduating class than there are in the entire school where the Gosselins are now. The student in that public school is only a number. I know one family whose daughter attended a small private school, enrolled in that public school, and was back in the private school two weeks later. She hated it. Others love it. It depends on the kid.
Tropical storms, Ernesto & Florence, are going to make it a very bumpy ride.
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That's why I refuse to book cruises during hurricane season. There was one cruise we did because there were specific islands I wanted to visit. Along came a storm, and the entire itinerary was changed at the last minute, going to places I had already been to more than once. Never again, and especially not in July, August, or September.
How many cruisers are still signed up for this trip?
Article about Jon quitting twitter. I guess not everyone a Babble.com likes Kate. An excerpt:
"But his ex Kate? She is still very much engaged in Twitter. But she uses it mostly in a promotional capacity to pimp snack bars and to talk about her new hobby, running. She was even in Twitter happy BlogHer land over the weekend."
http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/2012/08/05/jon-gosselin-quit-twitter-but-kate-gosselin-is-still-going-strong-what-happened/
Good for Jon for making his twitter private. If I recall, it was private for a very long time when he first got on twitter. Again, he shows me which parent is the smarter of the two, and it's not Kate.
Why give nasty people a place to squat and fling poo with his name attached? Kate obviously doesn't mind, since for her any attention is good attention.
If this book does come out, and I hope it does, I hope it really has some interesting information backed up by proof/facts, so she can't try to deny anything.
As has been explained many times it's illegal in Pennsylvania to "bargain" away child support. Jon legally could not have bargained away his support in exchange for filming.
Kate is a Witch said... 167
Good for Jon for making his twitter private.
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It's not private. It's been closed down.
Is there something inherently wrong with a big public school I'm missing? I went to a fairly big one but there were always a hundred different clubs, sports and music activities you could take part in. The variety was endless. I had a fantastic experience and it churned out many doctors, nurses, teachers, lawyers and other successful professionals from my class.
I too am glad that Jon deleted his twitter. He hasn't been tweeting much anyway.
Kate says block the bullies so you can't see their tweets. But does Kate realize that even those that don't have twitter can read all the negative tweets about her? Anyone who really wanted to see what people are saying about her can just go read her timeline and see the good, the bad, and the ugly. And they can also see that she only has a few followers that actually tweet her.
Perhaps, that is why no one is rushing to give her a job in media. She's not as well-liked as she would like people to believe.
AuntieAnn said... 169
Moose & Admin - Great idea. Rum mixed with pineapple and a hit of jagermeister.
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I am trying to catch up on posts, but Auntie, could you pour me one of these while I read, please? Ice, maybe an umbrella and a couple of maraschino cherries? Thanks ever so much.
PS I was trying to decide between white rum or spiced but I think with the Jager it's gotta be white, dont you think?
Mrs. Malaprop -- You live in the Columbus area, right? There is an excellent rescue in, I think, Westerville. It's called Cat Welfare. They are a no kill; take in strays and heal them,socialize them and place them. They should be in your phone book. They are a 501(c)and are very reputable. There's also another rescue in the Columbus area, Cozy Cat Cottage. I don't know a lot about them,but the little I've heard has been positive. Meanwhile, give the kitty something soft to snuggle in (towel, baby blanket, etc.), a litter pan, and food and water. Reassure by talking to it and, if it will let you, pet and snuggle it. Poor thing must be scared to death. Blessings on your son for having compassion and on you for teaching it to him.
Dwindle, it's so nice to hear your "voice." I hope things have been looking up for you.
Mrs. Malaprop -- I did a little googling around and I goofed. Cat Welfare isn't in Westerville. It's on Indianola Ave. S of Morse Rd. I haven't been there in a long time and I got confused (or had a senior moment). Anyway -- their website is www.catwelfareohio.com. Cozy Cat Cottage is in Powell and their website is www.cozycatcottage.org. They are also 501(c).
If Kate has all this money and Jon is broke, wouldn't Kate have to pay child support to Jon if it was 50/50 as you say?
I can't see any scenario where it would work any other way. I really don't believe Jon has the 50/50. There is no way he could pay half of their expenses ever.
Dwindle, hi. I have been watching for you. Hope today is brighter.
Soon I will be going to a Harrah's casino with a friendly cocktail server who takes orders for "unique" blends. I really don't drink that much hard liquor, but will try for FREE! Think I should take our Rumspringa recipes...taste...and return with reviews? Assuming, my memory would be intact!
I am trying to catch up on posts, but Auntie, could you pour me one of these while I read, please? Ice, maybe an umbrella and a couple of maraschino cherries? Thanks ever so much.
PS I was trying to decide between white rum or spiced but I think with the Jager it's gotta be white, dont you think?
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Wow. I guess we think alike. I looked in the refrigerator last night to figure out what to put in a Rumspringa. I have orange juice, pineapple juice, spiced rum, and Jager (still unopened). I figured the pineapple and Jager would work well, but the dark spiced rum just wasn't right. I'll get some white and try that.
There is no child support in pa when it's 50-50. But they would still have to work out school expenses and other things either among them or through the court if they can't agree. Count me as also glad Jon is off twitter. He probably wouldn't have as much time anyway for it between work and the kids. I doubt Kate could afford everything either on her CC salary shoe must be dipping into savins the entire family earned. That doesn't count as Kate supporting them IMO.
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I think the 50/50 split is based on the amount of time each parent has the kids, not dollars spent. If on Jon's watch he chooses to feed them Hamburger Helper and clothe them in Walmart's that's his right. If Kate wants them to dine at Nobu (yeah right) and dress them in designer duds that's her right.
Anyone know if she is allowing Jon back on the property?
My son found a kitten, and despite my objections to keeping her (we already have a menagerie) this sweet little feline now rules the roost here. My daughter found a kitten abandoned in a parking lot. He's here, too. We love these guys, but I said, "ENOUGH!" At least until the next time!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 98
Mama Mia, do you think attorneys never lie, mislead or play with words? :-) Her lawyer's statement is simply not permitted under PA law and she knows it. You don't get a get out of jail free card. It doesn't happen.
What does "sole" supporting mean anyway? Does this just mean that I'm not getting any child support from Jon anymore? Sure. That doesn't mean that JON isn't supporting them too when he has them 50% of the time.
Kate is not the sole supporter anyway. The kids were responsible for the bulk of her savings. That said in fairness I think her attorney got revved up when Jon was talking about child support and knowing that he doesn't have to pay anymore (because it's 50-50) she lashed out. None of them should talk about child support or support publicly, it's just not appropriate.
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Clearly i am still catching up, but thank you for addressing this point. It is illegal in Ohio too.
If they have 50/50 custody, then he is not paying support directly to Kate for the kids groceries etc, because HE is feeding them, showering them, putting a roof over their heads for EXACTLY the same amount of time that Kate is. But many of us know that the issues of tuition, medical coverage, medical expenses above and beyond what is covered, are all matters that are addressed in detail by the court.
It is laughable to think that Kate VOLUNTEERED to alleviate Jon of child support. Katespeak, again only this time from an attorney. I will bet anyone a shiny new nickle that Jon filed for 50/50 and she decided not to fight it. Period.
Kate is not the 'sole support' as she is only feeding and housing them half the time. I think some posters may be confusing child support with alimony. Just because Kate is the female, does not mean it is Jon's job to keep Kate living in the style she has become accustomed to. Not Jon's job to pay for the mansion, the kids dont need that. KATE thinks SHE needs it, but it's not Jon's responsiblity to pay for Kate's housing. It is KATE's responsiblity to pay for her own housing of her own choosing just like Jon is. If Kate wants a one bedroom apartment, so be it, but then she cant have her kids 1/2 time because she cant properly house them for more than occasional sleepovers. HER choice.
I think there will still be folks that chose to or are unable to comprehend this.
Just down the road said...
...Why would you want to read something like this? Wouldn't you want it be part of your past and move on? I understand that it may help you to come to grips with what happened to you, but at the same time, isn't it just an unhealthy reminder of what happened to you?
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I understand your questions and I will try to give an understandable answer. As I posted earlier, my family was a respected middle-class Jewish family. Having been the victim of child abuse in which that fact was never acknowledged, creates a dissonance. A child doesn't have the ability to objectively view the whole situation and say, "Wow, I'm being abused". I just thought that I was somehow defective and deserved what I got. As an adult, as the truth came into perspective, I can look back and say those words. So much of my life was lived in denial of how broken I was. And, as the truth about my own husband's secret life of drinking came out, I found myself eerily living my mother's life. Alcoholism is a terrible disease that almost destroyed my own family marriage and family and is a powerful tool for coping.
When I entered a 12 Step group, I honestly felt insane--it was much easier to believe that I was at fault for my husband's lying and addiction-- exactly the same kind of dissonance that I felt as a child. As I began working the steps, I found many of the issues in my marriage rooted in my family of origin. So, the simple answer to your question is that staying in reality is a necessary component of my recovery and healing. The physical abuse that I experienced is not the most prominent cause of my relational issues--it was just one of many symptoms of the sick family dynamics that surround alcoholism.
Reading memoirs such as this is a validation that I am not crazy and helps me to reconstruct what happened to me. This particular book is written with the kind of humor and black humor that I can relate to. I don't live in the past, but I don't run from it either. 12 Step groups focus on being there for newcomers, sharing our stories and supporting each other as we navigate through difficult and tragic times.
I was living with a secretly alcoholic husband for 30 years before he faced his problem. Were there signs? Yes! Living with someone who has a secret addiction is like having the pieces to a puzzle that you didn't even know existed. It is very easy for others to ask, -how could you have not known?, and I can understand. I can only answer with a quote from the AA book that describes alcoholism as a disease that is cunning, baffling and powerful.
Sorry my dear grammar police. I know that last sentence should have said "... choose NOT to...".
Exactly dwindle. Now that it's 50-50 it's up to Kate to decide hOw lavishly she wants to live and it's not Jon's problem. Tuition and medical insurance and things like that would all be s
What's Next? said... 148
Improbable, I don't know the exact details either, but from what I can piece together his twitter had become a trash heap of sheep pellets. He saw that his Twitter was only providing them a place for the herd to gather, so he closed it.
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How is that any different than what is done to Kate's Twitter by the people on your side of the fence? It's ridiculous behavior, regardless of whether the target is Jon or Kate.
Dwindle, It is Jon who is saying in his Star interview that he can't pay for housing and c/s not Kate. He also stated that unless he can provide housing he will not be able to have custody.
I wonder if something happened recently to put him in this situation. Could he have lost his job at that Game place? Maybe Liz could help him out.
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How is that any different than what is done to Kate's Twitter by the people on your side of the fence? It's ridiculous behavior, regardless of whether the target is Jon or Kate.
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Not different at all. Whether by accident or design, you've overlooked my response to that comment. I said at 151:
They've dropped pellets on his Twitter feed for a long while now, haven't they? I guess the stink finally did him in. Noticing that the pile o' dung is growing ever larger on Kate's Twitter feed. Maybe she has a higher tolerance for that?
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Ex Nurse said... 184
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My fine points are of course different than yours, but I am there with ya, sister. I am 55 years old and still having 'awakening' moments. Just a few weeks ago I tried, for my own sake, to confront my mother on one of those past matters and she had not one word to say, no matter how many times I repeated it. But at least she didnt deny it, which is her usual M.O.
You dont grow up saying "I am being abused, neglected, mentally tortured, I will get therapy later." you dont usually know that. You just grow up knowing you are hurting and sad and scared all the time and different than the rest of humanity.
A lot of the "haters" on Kate's twitter are ridiculous. There's been lots of discussion here about that. Not many, if any, people here condone that ridiculous behavior.
Anonymous do you read here much? Most people here can't stand the sludge on Kate's Twitter either and have said so. I also said ages ago people who do that are not welcome here. Before spouting off please be more informed.
Anonymous said...How is that any different than what is done to Kate's Twitter by the people on your side of the fence? It's ridiculous behavior, regardless of whether the target is Jon or Kate.
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For me there's a more important point. Jon decided to put a stop to it. Kate has not! I wonder why, do you?
Dmasy said... 177
Dwindle, hi. I have been watching for you. Hope today is brighter.
Soon I will be going to a Harrah's casino with a friendly cocktail server who takes orders for "unique" blends. I really don't drink that much hard liquor, but will try for FREE! Think I should take our Rumspringa recipes...taste...and return with reviews? Assuming, my memory would be intact!
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Hi Dmasy.
Hey, GO FOR IT with the recipes! And have a great time! So happy for you that you have a nice trip planned!
One of my daughters (I have several of them and I know you have got to be tired of hearing about them) is bar tending part time in Nashville for extra money. I was thinking about asking her if she could experiment too with the above concoction, get the pour counts down and measurments. If she can do that, and her resturant approves it, i will let y'all know!!
Just me in NC said... 176
If Kate has all this money and Jon is broke, wouldn't Kate have to pay child support to Jon if it was 50/50 as you say?
I can't see any scenario where it would work any other way. I really don't believe Jon has the 50/50. There is no way he could pay half of their expenses ever.
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Child Support is calculated on Income and not assets unfortunately for Jon's situation.
In Pennsylvania, child support is calculated on guidelines which sets the amount of child support. CS is calulcated using the net monthly income of each parent,then the number of children is included, and after factoring in certain additional expenses (like Child care and Health Insurance) and deducting others, a monthly guideline amount of support is calculated. This amount is then divided by the percentage of overnights of each parent.
And it if needed, CS can impute income to a parent who is not currently earning what was earned in the past. This was clearly done for Jon when they 1st divorced - hence the $22K that he payed Kate for many years when it was clear he was earning nowhere near that amount. The tables may now be turned on Kate - PA CS may be imputing income to Kate based on what she historically made the past years.
For all we know Jon actually could be making more income than Kate this past year. Jon does have a full time job from what I understand contrary to the most recent Tabloid reports that Kate has helped put in the press the past week. And Kate is most likely not making much income this year since her sole job is posting on CC. I can't imagine that pays all that much.
I do believe that Jon has 50/50 custody. I also believe that CS was eliminated based on what they recalculated in PA CS estimator and negotiated by both Jon and Kate considering new income calculations.
Even if what I believe is true, Jon still comes out behind. Kate is sitting on alot of wealth and is living a rich lifestyle no matter how much she tries to tweet otherwise. Jon obviously does not have available assets to fall back on and needs a paycheck to take care of his kids.
I find it SHAMEFUL that Kate is NOT stopping the slams against Jon on this CS issue on HER twitter by her crazy fans. And that she has NOT refuted the false reports in the tabloids.
It proves how much Kate HATES Jon more than she loves her own kids. Her behavior (or in this case her Non-Response) is SHAMEFUL, PATHETIC, and most of all HARMFUL to her kids. How Kate and her lawyer can sit back and let this happen to Jon is sickening to me (even if any of it is true - since I don't know).
Just Me said... 188
Dwindle, It is Jon who is saying in his Star interview that he can't pay for housing and c/s not Kate. He also stated that unless he can provide housing he will not be able to have custody.
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I am sorry, i totally skipped over that part in my rant, didnt I?
THEY ARE BOTH LYING and I am sick of them publically complaining about what a financial burden their children are!!!!
My previous post was mainly a reply to those wayyyy up thread who insisted that kate is sole support.
Anonymous said... 187
How is that any different than what is done to Kate's Twitter by the people on your side of the fence? It's ridiculous behavior, regardless of whether the target is Jon or Kate.
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It is no different. It is despicable behavior, no matter who is engaging in it. But Kate is in dire need of adulation and is consumed with being idolized and having praise heaped upon her, so she will never shut down her Twitter account. She also uses Twitter as a way to not engage with her kids, given that she tweets far more when the kids are around than when she isn't with them. I also truly believe she loves when "haters" make nasty comments because it allows her to act both victimized and superior. If she wasn't enjoying the attention or getting her needs fulfilled, she would simply shut down her account.
Call Me Crazy said... 197
It is no different. It is despicable behavior, no matter who is engaging in it. But Kate is in dire need of adulation and is consumed with being idolized and having praise heaped upon her, so she will never shut down her Twitter account. She also uses Twitter as a way to not engage with her kids, given that she tweets far more when the kids are around than when she isn't with them. I also truly believe she loves when "haters" make nasty comments because it allows her to act both victimized and superior. If she wasn't enjoying the attention or getting her needs fulfilled, she would simply shut down her account.
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I Agree! Her twitter clearly shows how much Kate loves HERSELF and HATES Jon MORE than she loves her kids.!!!!!
If some people don't understand or like the way we think on this blog, I really believe they would be happier to just not read here. I think there have to be other blogs where they could relate better. Or maybe start their own if they can't find any.
We have spent years watching Kate Gosselin be a very unpleasant, nasty, and selfish person and we honestly believe she is hurting her children. No one is going to convince me otherwise. No one. Ever.
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