Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Study: Lying makes you happier

Not that this is a big surprise, but here goes:

On April 7 Kate tweeted this:

“@XXXX you're so energetic miss gardener:) tomorrow we plant our organic veges inside then will move outside when they sprout yay!” 

However today, when someone asked if she had a garden, she tweeted this:

"no but my kids seem to think we need one"


Oh no she didn't!


According to studies, small embellishments can have positive psychological effects. In a 2008 study, researchers found that college students who exaggerated their GPA in interviews later showed improvement in their grades. Their fiction, in other words, became self-fulfilling. "Exaggerators tend to be more confident and have higher goals for achievement," said Richard Gramzow, a psychologist at the University of Southampton in England and one of the study's coauthors. "Positive biases about the self can be beneficial." People who deceive themselves also tend to be happier than people who do not, some research suggests. There are social payoffs, too: Studies have shown that people who lie frequently are viewed as friendlier and more amiable than their more truthful counterparts.

Kate's web of lies has caught up with her time and time again, and yet something keeps driving her to keep on spinning them. Is it because it makes her happier to put up such a facade?  


1339 sediments (sic) from readers:

«Oldest   ‹Older   401 – 600 of 1339   Newer›   Newest»
Tamara said...

When he was with Ellen he seemed more stable
--------------
When he was with Ellen he was required by law to not be in the media. That is why he was seen as so stable. And Ellen dumped his ass when she found out he was going to run back to the press and tv the moment his 'shackles' were off. And good for her.

FYI said...

I think the thing is that at Parent's night she is just another parent-not a "stah", not a "special person". The other parents don't care who she is-neither do the teachers. So she has to make herself seem important. She has to tweet that she is "there"-to make herself feel important.

Again, she has to validate that she is a good mother.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

I don't really agree that Kate feels threatened or is socially inept around other people. After watching her on TV and the things she did, and hearing the things she said, I sincerely believe that she thinks she is somehow better than other people and they are not worth her time. The only reason she tweets is because that has taken the place of being filmed and it keeps her "out there" in her mind.

I remember the couch interview after the Toys R Us incident and trying to justify her awful treatment of Jon. She made a comment about Jon telling her he was embarassed and then said that she doesn't notice other people.

How do you live in a community, shop, raise kids, etc., and NOT notice other people?

Her comment about a mediocre life just reinforced my belief that she does think she is better than everyone else and entitled to better things.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

The hubs is asleep because he's been starting work at 5:00 AM the past few days, and tomorrow as well. I'm waiting for laundry to come out of the dryer to fold and pack for our trip. So c'mon fellow bloggers, since I have to be up, someone converse with me!!

Eeeww, sorry for the similarities to Kate with that last statement. Lol!!

readerlady said...

Um, Tamara, Jon wasn't "required by law" not to be in the media. He wasn't allowed to take a JOB in the media. Big difference. There were plenty of articles about him during the time he was with Ellen.

Julianna said...

nd Ellen dumped his ass when she found out he was going to run back to the press and tv the moment his 'shackles' were off.

8888888888888888

And you know this how? Was there an official word as to who dumped whom and why there was a breakup?

SeeSaw said...

Next time someone posts asking for examples of Kate's bad behavior I suggest we just respond "wait an hour.". She never disappoints.
I agree that her phone is a crutch. I've never seen any evidence that she likes interacting with anyone. Except for maybe her Target people.

Anonymous said...

It's bad enough that she tweets between classes but she actually tweeted that "..I'm currently IN Spanish class!". Note the ever present exclamation.

Does she expect congratulations because she showed up for Parents' Night? Yes, she expects her followers to praise her for being such a good role model for all mothers.

bm

meagler said...

I went back and watched that Home on the range youtube video or whatever it was called. I do not think I have watched it since it aired. I noticed a few things very interesting:

1.When the rooster gets hen pecked and has to be removed from the hens: Kate says she has problems with roosters and it was quite ironic what happened. We all know she hen pecked Jon, but today I thot, hmmm, Roosters try to rule the roost. When Jon tried to rule by saying he didnt want the kids to be filmed anymore, Kate said they needed to iron things out. Well she ironed all right, she ironed Jon right out of the picture! Kate made it bloody and had to have Jon ( just like the rooster) removed so she quickly had to file for divorce.

2. It is hard to tell how many days of filming that episode actually took. The say Day three in one part, but I noticed people were wearing clothes in day 3 that was worn in day one etc. Some of the kids have the same clothes on in all three days.

3. When filming the Chicken school part, Mady said she did not want to go get the hose because they all knew how to do it. Made me think, yep another set up for filming. Today Kate teaches the kids how to care for the chickens, when they had already been doing it for a while.

4. Mady/ cara ...mady says thank you for making that egg meal: I think that is Cara saying that. It is very confusing almost like Mady and cara switch clothes. But on the couch interview Cara has on a yellow tank, and says that mady, who is in a purple top, doesnt like eggs. When they go to the table screen, the only twin at the table at that time is the twin in the yellow tank. She is the one who says thanks. A few frames later, the twin in the stripped purpleish sundress appears, and has a egg dessert dish, and is scraping it into Joels bowl. I am sure that is Mady.

5. I dont know about a napkin with a script on it, or a piece of paper in her lap, but I do know that if you go to the screen at 41:42, you will see a piece of paper hanging in the upper right hand corner of the screen. The mike person or the boom person is hanging some type of note there.

6. Kate talks about "we got a lot of work done today, and when I say we, I really mean me" And then when she writes in her Masterminding the Gosselin schedule of maintenance book, she writes "15 men came to my home and did my chores" ..



ALSO>>>>> talking about lies: kate said today she had never met Michelle Duggar..BUT< BUT.... I am sure she has. I have trying to find it but can not. Back when the show became Kate plus 8, TLC had the Duggars, the Gosselins, My little couple, and maybe even the Little people all in NYC for a promotional shoot, and I was certain there had been a picture with all of these families.

There were pap pictures of the family arriving at the hotel, or the studio. They were the ones where they used pieces of cardboard and tables to try and hide the kids getting out of the van. I remember it because I found it strange that the duggars or the Little People family did not have the same experience. Probably because they just drove up and walked in. No fanfare, etc.

Does anyone else remember this??

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Does she expect congratulations because she showed up for Parents' Night? Yes, she expects her followers to praise her for being such a good role model for all mothers.

&&&

Yes, she does. And I'm sure she'll get it. She is like a puppy dog who wants a treat for going potty. Okay fair enough when you are a puppy but at a certain point I can't be feeding you treats all the time just for doing what you're SUPPOSED to do. Get over yourself and just go do what every other dog on the block manages to do.

I agree with the "wait an hour" response about Kate's bad behavior. Things are awfully quiet though right now.

aggiemom09121416 said...

LoveMyGrandsons said... 182

The hubs is asleep because he's been starting work at 5:00 AM the past few days, and tomorrow as well. I'm waiting for laundry to come out of the dryer to fold and pack for our trip. So c'mon fellow bloggers, since I have to be up, someone converse with me!!
------
You mean you don't have a ....laundry helper???lol.

I hope you have a safe trip and make some great memories! Take the film crew!!!
Seriously, I always enjoy your posts about your family. The love you have for them just jumps out of the computer screen.
:)

AuntieAnn said...

LoveMyGrandsons said... 181
Her comment about a mediocre life just reinforced my belief that she does think she is better than everyone else and entitled to better things.
=====

Gosh I thought we were the only ones who felt superior to others. At least that's what we've been accused of.

The funny part of this if there is one is she may be tweeting to avoid those mediocre parents she is forced to be among tonight, but look who she's tweeting TO - her mediocre minions.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Guess I'm late to this party (pass the rumspringa), but seriously? The biotch is tweeting from parent night at the middle school! Put the damn phone down, and here's a thought, talk to the other parents. Or, don't talk, put the damn phone away. Now. Fine, too late, I know, but let her out of the compound and she never fails to act totally wrong.

AuntieAnn said...

Yes, Orange. I guess that's where Steve came in handy.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Auntie Ann, yep, I agree. She does not like being around other people because I think she truly believes she is better than them. With her manic tweeting, at least she can keep those "fans" at arms length and not really have to interact with them. She just pretends on twitter that she would love to meet them. Since she knows it will never happen, she doesn't have to worry about it.

A Mom said...

Kate most likely had to tweeter cause that's her friends and other parents are not interested and if Jon is there Kate will not be talking with or to him.

readerlady said...

Meagler -- I thought I remembered seeing a picture of the G's and the Duggers together after some sort of media event in NY, also. I wasn't sure, though. If you remember something too, then I'm not going nuts, LOL. I also thought KK mentioned meeting Michelle at one point, too, but again, I may be wrong.

AuntieAnn said...

Grandsons - Maybe she wants it to look like she's keeping notes on her iphone about all the important things she's been told by the teachers. Just like everytime Chris the pap snapped a photo, she had that thing glued to her ear. It's a crutch. I wonder if she sleeps with it under her pillow.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Okay, before a troll jumps on me, I need to clarify that yes, Kate did have pictures taken with a couple fans at a marathon. However, over all, the vast majority she has nothing to do with. The meet and greet in St. Louis was a no go, the cruise was a no go, the lunch in FL was a no go. She just strings them along and they are content to believe it.

In real life, in her community, and her kids school (by her own tweets!), she doesn't try to interact with others. They're beneath her.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Nah, Auntie Ann, I don't think her cell phone is a crutch. I think it's a tool to her so she can keep trying to make people believe she's important and relevant. She has to field all those calls and texts from those TV execs that want her, you know! What did she say after her show was cancelled? Something to the effect that are lots of jobs on TV. How's that working out for ya', Kate?!

White Organza said...

Angie (128)... "As anyone any examples of their own marriages and how the parents live differently while raising the children?"

Jon reminds me a lot of my son's father. A very good Dad. But like Dwindle (138) wrote, "he also seemed lost without a relationship, and he wants a relationship that feels serious to him". (By the way, that touched me, Dwindle. The "lost" part. It rang very true to my ears and my heart...) And from the moment he lefted me, he has been jumping from one relationship to another, more or less every two years.

At first, that used to bug me a LOT. I'm more of a homebody. I like and strive on stability. That's the way I'm wired. My ex, -apparently-, is wired in an entirely different way. Stability seems to suffocate him after a while.

And at first, I was afraid that my child would be all messed up and confused with all these "girlfriends"constantly entering and leaving his father's world.

Then, as the first few years went by, my fears slowly began to disappear... I had to admit, my son wasn't messed up or confused.

Sometimes, he did get along well with his Dad's girlfriend "du jour", sometimes... not so much. (And that's life. It's a little like having a different teacher every year...) But that child was always very clear on who were the two most important persons in his life: the two persons who love him the most, his father and I. And, that we were always going to be there for him. New girlfriends, new boyfriends, or not.

And, to me, that's the only really important stability to give a child. Any child.

Lastly, and with all my respect, Angie, I think we should be careful about the words we use when discussing this. My ex had a lot of girlfriends, yes, but my son, -nor, I'm sure, any Gosselin kids with Jon-, never "saw his father in bed in a compromising position" with a girlfriend. It's an image that is little too graphic for the point you want to make and, I think, tends to polarize the discussion...

Finally, for Anonymous and all her friends: pardon my french, my piss poor spelling and my weird grammar. English is not my first langage.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

White Organza, your poste about the stability a child really needs stated it perfectly! How great that you and your ex could understand each other to a point and do what is best for you child.

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Okay, before a troll jumps on me, I need to clarify that yes, Kate did have pictures taken with a couple fans at a marathon. However, over all, the vast majority she has nothing to do with. The meet and greet in St. Louis was a no go, the cruise was a no go, the lunch in FL was a no go. She just strings them along and they are content to believe it.

------------------

I remember that video from the Grove, where fans wanted to meet her, and she mouthed, "That's not part of it." She clearly did this only because PB told her that she had to. On her own, she would have skedaddled out of there.

LoveMyGrandsons said...

Okay, my dryer buzzed. I think I'm out of here for tonight. Sweet dreams all!

Tamara said...

readerlady said... 183
Um, Tamara, Jon wasn't "required by law" not to be in the media. He wasn't allowed to take a JOB in the media. Big difference. There were plenty of articles about him during the time he was with Ellen.
--------------------
I worded that wrongly, and of course READERLady would notice :) I should have said he wasn't allowed to try and use the media to make money. Which is exactly what he did the moment the 2 year point was up, and has been since. And what Ellen didn't want to be a part of.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Which is exactly what he did the moment the 2 year point was up, and has been since.

&&&

I don't think either of these parents could really be all that relevant even if they tried. So Jon showed up at a few small time events and did a few interviews, at least he's not bringing the kids into it. I'm really not worried about either one of them succeeding at being media whores again. The public is over it, thank God. They have become but a blip on the radar, a go-to joke you make whenever something involves a gaggle of kids.

Kokomo, Cocktails and Dreams said...

Tamara said,

"Which is exactly what he did the moment the 2 year point was up, and has been since. And what Ellen didn't want to be a part of."

____

Did Ellen say that she didn't want to be a part of it? Was that reported in a tabloid somewhere?

Kokomo, Cocktails and Dreams said...

Admin said,

"I don't think either of these parents could really be all that relevant even if they tried."

________

Has there been any word on the dating show?

Moose Mania said...

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Just thankful ur kids have U as an involved parent there at the school nite 4parents...important 2stay up2date w/kids classes!

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Good grief, Milo! She TWEETS during parent's night -- that's how interested she is in the classes! Wipe those stars from your eyes and come back to earth!

JoyinVirginia said...

Ms Kreider is still boring.
Drive by baa baas are equally excruciatingly boring.

Let's plan a kumbayaspringa party! Parties are not boring!

For reals I am going to Nags Head to the beach! This weekend! But thanks to wifi and smart phones I can keep in touch with any party plans! I am kinda exhausted ish since the last party, but I will feel much better once I drink some sangria! That will hold me over until I find some rumspringa.

Kristine said...

Divorced people move on (most people, very quickly). Both of my parents re-married, shortly after they ended their 22+ year relationship.

Jon isn't doing anything unusual-- but Kate is. Four entire years all alone, without anyone to share her feelings with? No wonder she's tweeting up a storm... burning the midnight oil, with her fingertips!

It's sad. Many would say her Twitter display last night, moved her right into Wine "Cellar No. 9".

Number Nine... Number Nine...

Moose Mania said...




LoveMyGrandsons said... 1

Okay, my dryer buzzed. I think I'm out of here for tonight. Sweet dreams all!

&&&&&&&&&&

Good night, Grandsons. At least you aren't buzzed on rumspringas! Have a great vacation!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Divorced people move on (most people, very quickly). Both of my parents re-married, shortly after they ended their 22+ year relationship.

&&&

Yes, usually.

Also keep in mind most people who get divorced are actually "divorced" in their heads for years. Heck we felt the distance between Kate and Jon as early as season one. Their relationship was over for a very long time before Jon ever started dating.

AuntieAnn said...

Heck we felt the distance between Kate and Jon as early as season one. Their relationship was over for a very long time before Jon ever started dating.
====

Yeah and besides that they had that all important trip to Hawaii scheduled for October so they were kind of forced to stay together and pretend they were still going to be married forever and ever.

readerlady said...


Grandsons -- Have a safe trip tomorrow and enjoy spoiling those grandsons for a week or so :).

Okay, admittedly, my Spanish is rather rusty, but KK needs to stop pretending she speaks it!
"(I) have much in house" and "Yes. (I) have eggs much for breakfast tomorrow! And you you?" Sheesh!

Kristine said...

"At least you aren't buzzed on rumspringas!"

That was my 1st thought. I gotta stop hanging out here...

Have a great vacay, LoveMyGrandsons. (As I typed vacay, I thought of Cindy Cardella-- Cancelled Cruise Coordinator-Lady :)

Moose Mania said...


Yeah and besides that they had that all important trip to Hawaii scheduled for October

&&&&&&&&&

Didn't they renew those fake vows in August? By the fall of that year, the marriage was pretty much over by the time they moved into the new house.

AuntieAnn said...

The more you think about how TLC scammed the viewers kind of makes you wonder what exactly was in that contract. Did they demand that they lie to their kids or that they scrap like a couple of teenagers getting ready to break up? It's just sickening to think what they put those kids through. Kate was all for it though. Everything she wanted was right there. Fame, travel, money, house, furniture, spas...she must have thought she had died and gone to narcisssist's heaven.

ElisabethK said...

I don't understand this post at all. Are you trying to not only justify Kate's pathological lying, but imply that it is, in fact, a good thing?

AuntieAnn said...

Moose - Was it August?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Elisabeth this is the point of the post, and to just discuss lying in general:

Kate's web of lies has caught up with her time and time again, and yet something keeps driving her to keep on spinning them. Is it because it makes her happier to put up such a facade?

mamaK said...

Wait, didn't Kate say in an interview that it was September when she was flying on a plane and knew that it was over???
And the HI trip was in Oct?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

AuntieAnne it's pretty shocking to me that TLC hasn't gotten more criticism for participating in what I consider to be one of THEE most ethical things a network has ever done to a reality family. Especially since the family was generally well liked, the kids were regarded as so cute and sweet. It wasn't like a family you hated you wanted to see break up and go down. No one really wanted to see them split, I think people were genuinely wishing they would weather this and go back to the same old dysfunctional Jon and Kate. Not to mention for the kids' sake.

Tamara said...

Kristine, you're taking me back to John Lennon and Yoko with the number nine thing lol. Scrolling through my ipod right now...

Kristine said...

"Has there been any word on the dating show?"
_________________________
Yes. Kate tweeted "Patience is a virtue", again recenty. So she's still searching America, for Mr. Whatever, and a Network willing to air that mess.

&&&&&&&&

"Their relationship was over for a very long time before Jon ever started dating."
_________________________

That very fact... is the biggest misconception, among the Sheeple.


AuntieAnn said...

I'm sorry Elizabeth. Are you talking to ME? I think if you put hot skewers under my fingernails you would not get me to justify Kate's lying. I am just wondering if TLC MADE them lie to the kids. Of course it wouldn't bother Kate at all. I think it bothers her to tell the truth.

Lying makes Kate happy.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Ellen dumped his ass when she found out he was going to run back to the press and tv the moment his 'shackles' were off. And good for her.

&&&

I don't think that's necessarily true. I think a more likely explanation is just as Jon stated, that Ellen wanted a family of her own.

I was expecting it eventually, it would take one remarkable young woman to want to give up her own hopes and dreams of babies of her own to help raise another man's eight children who are already 8 and 12. I give her credit for really trying to make it work, but it was inevitable, and it's nothing against her. She did the right thing ending it, at the end of the day at that age it's not usually the best idea to throw away those dreams or you may seriously regret it later.

AuntieAnn said...

Moose - I was wrong I just looked it up. The show aired in October.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


"Their relationship was over for a very long time before Jon ever started dating."
_________________________

That very fact... is the biggest misconception, among the Sheeple.

&&&&

Not to mention that despite it being over, there was only one person still trying to make it work, Jon. With the therapy and so on.

They always conveniently overlook that it was Kate who filed for divorce, not Jon. For all we know Jon would have just stuck it out had she not filed.

Tamara said...

Auntie Ann said...Did they demand that they lie to their kids or that they scrap like a couple of teenagers getting ready to break up? It's just sickening to think what they put those kids through.
--------------
From what has been said Jon and Khate's constant fights were the major reason there was sooooooo much editing needed from the beginning.

mamaK said...

I watched the episode posted here and I was shocked at her total ineptitude. Whether it's an act or real I guess only Kate and TLC know, but for a grown woman in charge of 8 children, a massive house, and 26 acres, she acted like an inept school girl. She talked with the water softener guy like she had no idea why he was there or what he did. Something like "I know our water is bad and I'm using all those filtery thingys and I want to stop using them." Well, she already had a water softener system installed and working in the house. She looks at him like he's crazy when he says she needs to maintain the filters herself. Then, when she is setting up her binder (with NO information, just spread sheets to record data?) she says something like, "if I have it all here in a little binder in simplified Kate-speak, then I can do it". It was just SO weird! Not the way a grown woman and mother would act.
Another thing that struck me was how she kept saying it was all up to her...and then proving that wrong with her own actions. The problem with the rooster...well, no, with almost everything...she's like "can someone..." She has an issue with the hose and says it's annoying that there are issues in the house and NO ONE tells her about them. And I don't think she is talking about the kids who wouldn't notice or think about things like that. The water softener guy says the company will come out once a year to handle the system for her, the fact that someone has to put things into "katespeak" so that she can understand them, etc. The most impactful moment for me was when she says "it's all on me" and then they cut to a clip of three of the little kids taking water to the chickens, giving each other high fives. So cute, so examplifying of what a family is--a team, in it together, and such a good example of how Kate distances herself from that.

SG said...

Admin,
When/where did Jon say Ellen wanted a family if her own? I don't recall reading or hearing that anywhere. Or is that info from a source. It's just not anything I've ever heard before.

AuntieAnn said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 19

AuntieAnne it's pretty shocking to me that TLC hasn't gotten more criticism for participating in what I consider to be one of THEE most ethical things a network has ever done to a reality family.
====
I'm know you meant unethical, but yes, it only shows how powerful they are. They must have air-tight contracts written up and of course the money and lawyers to back them up. I think Jon's hands were tied when he tried to get out of it.

Kristine said...

Tamara said... 20
"Kristine, you're taking me back to John Lennon and Yoko with the number nine thing lol. Scrolling through my ipod right now..."
___________

So pleased someone caught the Beatles reference! Revolution 9 is a crazy tune. Fitting in this case.

Moose Mania said...

Moose - I was wrong I just looked it up. The show aired in October.

&&&&&&&

Yes, I looked it up, too. When the show aired, the marriage was pretty much over. They moved to the new house after that show aired, and they were still asking for those dang love offerings when they had put in an offer on the property.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

SG they are blending together now I'm sorry....I thought he had said that publicly but in his twitter statement he doesn't mention that specifically. But that was one of the concerns, Ellen wanted her own family someday. And that would be completely normal and natural.

I recall initially it was reported she was saying she was okay not having kids but things change as you get older.

Moose Mania said...

When/where did Jon say Ellen wanted a family if her own? I don't recall reading or hearing that anywhere. Or is that info from a source. It's just not anything I've ever heard before.

&&&&&&&&&

SG, I don't ever remember hearing that either. Nor did I ever read of Ellen splitting because Jon was going to the media.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If anything by the way that speaks highly of the Gosselin kids, her experience was clearly so good with them she wanted some of her own. Or at least they didn't turn her off from having kids!

I've always thought they were good kids.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Jon made a respectful statement that it was "a mutual decision and we are both happy and remain best friends." A source at the time (not mine) said that the attention bothered her.

My source as I recall talked about a number of things, from the attention bothering her to just being at different spots in their lives, to her desire to have kids. It's not unusual for lots of different issues to lead to a breakup instead of just one.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh also i think it's worth noting that no article or source that I have ever read or heard of has ever suggested the breakup had anything to do with Ellen not being able to handle the kids or not liking them, or issues with Kate or not liking her.

I think it's real progress when things go smoothly enough that the ex and the ex's children have nothing to do with the breakup. It's crucial those areas go smoothly in order to build healthy relationships amid such a situation. I wouldn't expect either parent to be with someone who causes conflict in those areas.

Moose Mania said...

My source as I recall talked about a number of things, from the attention bothering her to just being at different spots in their lives, to her desire to have kids. It's not unusual for lots of different issues to lead to a breakup instead of just...

&&&&&

Did your source say that she ditched him because he was going to run to the media? I had never heard that before...

CS said...

Houses & Big Changes" June 22, 2009 (2009-06-22)
The children are getting their own playhouses, one for Mady, one for Cara, one for the little girls and one for the boys, also Jon and Kate announce that after much discussion they will separate after 10 years.
According to this list of episodes,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kate_Plus_8_episodes

Jon & Kate continued to tape 16 more episodes after they announced their separation. I quess TLC did have a strong hold on Jon.

SG said...

Thanks Admin.

Moose Mania,
Correct. Neither Jon nor Ellen gave a reason (publicly) for their split.

And that's all I will say publicly. ;)

mamaK said...

I don't think the homework helper is a tutor. I think it is the nanny but Kate can't say that because it would ruin her "SINGLE (UGH!) mom doing everything on my own" image that she wants to put out. She has to have help during that time because she does two pick ups at school (at least last year) and I don't think she mentioned the younger kids coming with her to get the twins, etc. plus she goes running often at that time, etc.
I think she has a nanny there with the kids from after school til bedtime at least to deal with them so that at the very least she could be in the kitchen making dinner. (if she really does make dinner). On the show she was mostly focused on meals. In the chicken coop show she leaves the kids outside with the guys doing the install so she can go make lunch and comes out shocked that her kids are on the roof (yet does not react in anyway or ask them to get her kids down.)

Kristine said...

For some reason, I can't remember exactly what Ellen Ross said during that time.

If I recall- she essentially said... She was okay with Jon having eight kids. She did eventually hope to have children of her own, if the relationship ever evolved into the discussion of marriage. Pretty simply put.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Her attempt to twit in Spanish is so pathetic, I cringe.

"Y tu usted?"

SG said...

I only recall Jon and/or Ellen saying they will cross that bridge when it comes to it.

Anonymous said...

she does two pick ups at school (at least last year) and I don't think she mentioned the younger kids coming with her to get the twins, etc. plus she goes running often at that time, etc.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

She does the pickups at the bus stop, not at school, and she would only do two runs if the older girls have sports or after-school activities. This was always surprising to me because ALL of the kids could get the late bus home when the twins stay late, and that way she'd only have to make one bus stop run.

SG said...

I found the breakup info that I recalled on Rumor Fix but I can't copy and paste it into my iPhone. :(

Kristine said...

It was never answered, whether or not Ellen and Jon were planning on starting a new family of their own.

My guess is NO!

Or in the Spanish version, for Katie = NO!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This was always surprising to me because ALL of the kids could get the late bus home when the twins stay late, and that way she'd only have to make one bus stop run.

&&&

I dont think siblings should have to wait at school just because other kids have activities. Kids spend enough time at school.

Have eight kids, you might have to make multiple trips. They do have a father with a BBB who can help out too.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Maybe they got serious enough in their relationship where kids started to be something that was on the table for their future, and they hit a fork in the road. Wouldn't be the first time that happened to a couple. I wish her the best, I think she was a nice young woman.

SG said...

*waves to Kristine

Anonymous said...

I dont think siblings should have to wait at school just because other kids have activities. Kids spend enough time at school.

++++++++++++++++

admin, we're not supposed to discuss school things here, but it's not "waiting." It's an after-school program that kids really enjoy. It has nothing to do with learning, lessons and such, unless kids want to use that time to get their homework finished. Otherwise, it's a fun time.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Moose not they never said that and I don't buy that.

They said she had never liked the attention Jon got but that had been an issue since day one of the relationship. Maybe she finally realized it probably wouldn't ever go away completely and this is not what she wanted long term.

SG said...

I'm always surprised when a Kate fan chooses to post here. I thought we were all past that point by now. I didn't realize the fans are still trying to interact with the non-fans on blogs.

Is this blog on blog talk? If so, my apologies.

jclentie said...

Just as I thought you don't want to even entertain alternate opinions. You relish in letting your posters be just as nasty and horrible as you are.

And Kat, like I said before Admin deleted it. You have a foul mouth and a more foul personality. You do not scare me...at all.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't care what it's called it's still a long time at school when your mom is perfectly capable of getting off her lazy butt and driving 10 minutes to the bus stop to pick you up. It's one thing if they really want to stay for it, quite another if they'd prefer to just go home and veg out a bit.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

jclentie said... 53
Just as I thought you don't want to even entertain alternate opinions. You relish in letting your posters be just as nasty and horrible as you are.

&&&

Yes, you're right. I don't want alternate opinions and I relish in posters being nasty and horrible just like me. You nailed it. Now please go away.

Kristine said...

*Waving back to Schmecky...

I told you once, Depeche Mode fans often travel in the same internet circles.

Sometimes, for years on end. I fiiiiiind you, LOL.

Anonymous said...

It's one thing if they really want to stay for it, quite another if they'd prefer to just go home and veg out a bit.

+++++++++++++++

Oh, I agree with that, but if you lived with Kate, wouldn't you rather be with your friends at a fun after-school activity rather than be in the house with her? :)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

SG, it's ok (the blog on blog.)

I'm surprised too. I mean even back in the heyday I know some people here would pop into the sheeple blogs occasionally and try to reason with them or have a bit of innocent fun but gosh after awhile I'm sure that got boring. I dont know a single person here who still bothers with that. That was a fun game, like, two years ago. Doesn't it get old? Don't you start to understand after awhile that no one is going to change?

I mean, I long accepted that the fans will never get it. I rejoice when a lost sheep is found and comes over here or just quietly leaves the flock, but I don't try to actively recruit them.

Odd.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Over in Kate's County...you got me there. Yes, I wouldn't want to go home with Kate.

I feel bad for their long days but it's not all that unusual for kids today.

Anonymous said...

The thing is, Kate knew these kids would be growing up, doing their own after-school sports, activities, and such, and that she would be running around after them if she sent them to a school not in her area. But she had to have that home. She's exhausted now. Just wait a few more years when all of them are going in different directions!

jclentie said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 158


kateplusmy8
It's parent night in our middle school... Just left Public speaking class and I'm currently in Spanish class! :)


&&&

This is getting insane. Good Lord woman. Can't even be present and aware at Parent's Night. I really wish her sheeple could find a kind and gentle

Speaking of examples of bad parenting JC was asking about, there you go.

It is shameful Grandsons, If not one of the most neglectful things she's ever done.

Any parent at parents night, especially one with 8 kids, knows it's not appropriate to let your mind wander elsewhere. Jon is probably there hopefully he'll catch everything she isn't listening to.
August 30, 2012 5:43 PM
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 159

The more adulation she gets the more she needs. She can't even get through Parent's Night without seeking thunderous tweeting cheers.
August 30, 2012 5:44 PM
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 160

Sorry didn't finish that thought....I wish her sheeple could find a kind and gentle way to get her to pay attention to her own darn children. For one, stop tweeting her during the evening hours.
August 30, 2012 5:46 PM

Why don't you just leave Kate alone and live your life with no thought of hers. Or don't you all have lives outside of hating Kate and researching everything she does?

SG said...

Jclentie,
What are you hoping to accomplish? As someone that used to post an opposing opinion on blogs I'm curious.

I ask because you seem to be more worried about the posters here and their attitudes than you are about the actual Kate debate.

You gave your opinions and asked for current examples. You were given a slew of examples and you have not addressed any of them.

I'm interested in hearing your opinions on these examples as well as what you have to say to refute them.

You can continue the cycle of he said she said or you can do what it is you claim you came here to do.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The thing is, Kate knew these kids would be growing up, doing their own after-school sports, activities, and such, and that she would be running around after them if she sent them to a school not in her area. But she had to have that home.

&&&

That is the FIRST thing I would think of in picking a school. The teenage years. Back and forth to sports, friends scattered around town, school play practice, clubs, and on and on. Kids I nannied for go to school quite far away, to two SEPARATE schools and yeah sure they're great schools and all, but good lord does that poor family spend a heck of a lot of time in traffic.

At the end of the day is it worth it to have that slightly better school, or to just go to a closer school and have more time with your kids at home relaxing instead of in the car all the time. It's different if you have absolutely nothing decent available near you but that's not the case with them.

Anonymous said...

Over in Kate's County...you got me there. Yes, I wouldn't want to go home with Kate.

+++++++++++++++

lol, admin! You've got to consider these things and weigh the alternatives!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I've decided to just agree with JC from now on. It's honestly easier. I invite everyone to join.

Yes, SG can talk about blogs on blogs but no one else can. Yes I spend my life researching Kate. No I have no life outside of this. Oh and yes Kate is a wonderful parent.

JoyinVirginia said...

Blogger ate my post!
Ms Kreider is boring and drive by baa baas are excruciatingly boring.

Let's party! Not boring!
I am headed back down to Nags Head for the weekend. Cleanup after the last party left me exhaustedish, but if I start with my Costco sangria and progress to rumspringa I will have lots of energy!

Flight of kiwi, can I borrow brown faux suede recliner spaceship to get to the party location wherever it may be? Tell your dh I will be very careful!

Pearls and Lace said...

jclentie, you are coming across as an immature person or perhaps you are one of Kate's few teenage fans. All I see is misery in your words. Your comments show you don't have follow up capabilities so stop asking questions and think about calling it a night.

Anonymous said...

At the end of the day is it worth it to have that slightly better school, or to just go to a closer school and have more time with your kids at home relaxing instead of in the car all the time. It's different if you have absolutely nothing decent available near you but that's not the case with them.

+++++++++++++++

Neither did she need that home. Had she stayed where she was, she would have been so much closer to school, but she didn't think about that. They also could have stayed where they were and sent the kids to other good private schools in the area that were much closer, and much less expensive. But, they didn't THINK. They had to have it all.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Why don't you just leave Kate alone and live your life with no thought of hers. Or don't you all have lives outside of hating Kate and researching everything she does?

&&&

So classic. One minute demanding examples of Kate being a bad parent, then when confronted with a perfect example from TODAY of Kate indeed being a bad parent, doesn't want to hear it and deflects from it and demands that we just leave Kate alone. We gave you what you asked for, JC. That was just classic.

But yes we should just leave Kate alone. Leave Britney/Kate alone!!!!

SG said...

One thing I've noticed is every single time a Kate fan comes here claiming they only want a reasonable conversation about Kate they only last the one day and then their true agenda comes out.

Again, as someone that posted pretty much the only opposing opinion on a blog I know it can be done. And it can be done without giving back what you get. Seems to me if you can't do that then that's not really what you came here to do.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I really do wish they kept the original house both for the sake of protecting the children's money from being blown down that money pit and to keep the kids "grounded."

I don't know what the zoning laws are but they had a huge backyard, maybe they could have just built a pool in the back. Then they'd get their pool.

They'd be near Aunt Jodi, according to locals near some great schools, near all their same friends and babysitters. Sigh, it's a real shame. And I still think she might lose this house one day anyway and then what was the freaking point?

Anonymous said...


Why don't you just leave Kate alone and live your life with no thought of hers. Or don't you all have lives outside of hating Kate and researching everything she does?

++++++++++++++

We have no lives. We research everything she does. I agree. We are terrible parents. Kate is the best. Everything she does proves that.

Anonymous said...

I don't know what the zoning laws are but they had a huge backyard, maybe they could have just built a pool in the back. Then they'd get their pool.

+++++++++

Yes, they could have built a pool or even put an addition on their home. The zoning laws, as far as continuing filming, might have been another issue.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Off topic about Target

By the way there is a really sweet facebook post that is starting to go viral about a father who has a child with asbergers who shopped at Target. He noticed his cashier behaving differently and was pretty sure right away that the cashier had some kind of autism issue. He said the cashier did a great job though he wouldn't make eye contact. He was so touched that Target gave them a chance and it gave him such hope about his own child's future that maybe they can find a job like that and be happy. It has about 2,500 comments.

I love hearing little life stories like that. I am so happy that Target being willing to give that person a chance ended up being so inspiring to someone else.

And on a silly note, Paula Poundstone has a hilarious routine about an old Walmart commercial with an employee in a wheelchair. :)

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Perfect. A nice big addition to their home out back (a few bedrooms, maybe a nice big play room) and a pool and they could have really been in business. And at probably 1/10th of the price.

Kristine said...

"I rejoice when a lost sheep is found and comes over here or just quietly leaves the flock, but I don't try to actively recruit them."
_________

To me, Admin. it's amusing. I don't typically read what Sheeple write- or engage them on any website. I tried once on INF.com, and it was pointless. I begged "Monty" to stray from the flock... and (attempted) to send Red Rover right over! What a waste of time and energy.

I was told to "Just kill myself" and called "Krust-ine", relentlessly! Then some sheep adopted my name as their own. Good times. I feel ya, Permanent Name.

Making mental giants there, one day at a time. "Jessica@INF" refused to delete the committing suicide comment, and threatened to BAN ME. Imagine that. What a sweetheart.

JoyinVirginia said...

Ok, just read some prior posts. So it was back to school night and Ms Kreider tweeted from school....
I don't hate Ms Kreider, well except she abused my Saint Tony but that only lated a few short months. But this shows she is very rude and not interested in interactions with real people. So, yeah, boring. whenever I went to back to school night, between classes or waiting for the teacher to start, you chat with other parents, you say hi to your neighbors, you make sure the teacher knows YOU brought the tissue boxes and Clorox wipes and hand sanitizer for him/her ( cause sometimes they give extra credit to your child, always they remember you are the mom who gave them stuff). You don't text or tweet or file your nails or pick your teeth.
This action shows distain and contempt for everyone you ignored to tweet instead.
Ms Kreider really isn't very bright... I am just amazed at how dim she is.

FYI said...

"Or don't you all have lives outside of hating Kate and researching everything she does?"

I don't know about anyone else here, but I don't "hate" Kate. What I do hate is her pretense of being a supermom-bragging about her cooking, how her kids praise her and thank her ad nauseum. How she thinks(hopes) she is so perfect in every way. Yet, if she were so perfect, why would she need to retweet praise after praise about her mothering and herself?

She says to block the bullies-why? Because she can't take any criticism against herself, and is afraid that what they say may actually sway one of her followers. "Block the bullies-and join in on the fun!" The fun being the constant praise and adulation she receives.

She constantly needs the praise of strangers, to validate herself not only as a mother, but also as a person.

Anonymous said...

What surprised me, admin, was that when they looked at property and purchased that house, the marriage was on the rocks. Why would you undertake a huge investment like that knowing that your marriage was unstable? They didn't need that house. They could have done so much more with the one they had, or they could have bought a larger house in the area at a fraction of what they paid for their current home and have been closer to school without the expense and maintenance of the current home.

I think at the time it was the new money, the chance to show everyone that they could afford such a place. Was it an impulse purchase? I don't know, but given the state of their marriage at the time, they certainly didn't think things through.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Why don't you just leave Kate alone and live your life with no thought of hers. Or don't you all have lives outside of hating Kate and researching everything she does?
_______

We don't research anything Kate does it's all on her public twitter or website.

Or she puts it out there herself in the media.

chefsummer #Leh said...

There's a blog just like this one pro-Kate that ya can go to JC.

It's called The Gosselin Family Fan site. :)

angie said...

Thanks for all the comments on my earlier post about Jon, Kate and stability. Oh White Organza, I never meant to imply Jon was in any sexual embraces while the kids were there. Just the sight of Jon asleep with another woman in his bed, I think would be jarring to the children, especially the 8 yr olds, who remember Mom & Dad sleeping together and jumping in their bed, before they had the Mansion and were no longer allowed to be in the Mom/Dad bedroom suite under penalty of law.

But a lot of my questions were answered, so thank you.

I do not hate anyone on the face of the earth, never have. I do have opinions, most concerning both Kate & Jon unfavorable but they are the parents, they assume full responsibility for their children and whatever is done either thru a Star Magazine interview, photos on twitter, tweets is what they do.
For me, I would protect my children from those who so very much, too much, enjoy those photos. I see that Cara never reveals her body nor does she pose. I hope she can stay out of the limelight, she is not as recognizeable (sp?) as Mady is.

Now I have too much light shining from the moon on my keyboard, as I try to type, which makes the screen light bounce off of my eye glasses. I should have never put in those fancy stain glass windows that give me such an expansive view of full moons and vampires or wolves, perhaps, lurking.

Guess it it time to give up the abstaining from liquor and ask Dwindle for a Rumspringa with a touch of sea salt on the glass rim and a slpash (heavy dose) of Tiquila. One must be numbed to the sounds of the Vampires on a night like this. You all understand. The winds are picking up and I can hear the branches of the gigantic oak tree slapping against the side of the house. Hurry with that drink would you Dwindle, it is a bit frightening here tonight, here on the Range even though the sheeple are bedded down for the night.

Tamara said...

This is OT, but has anyone been watching Big Brother this summer? The last few weeks have been insane, and this past one was just WOW. Some of the sheeple and wannabe rabble rousers should watch and learn. If I wasn't so against Khate getting any media attention (the only way to deal with a narcissism is to ignore ignore ignore) I'd beg her to be on Big Brother. They'd eat her alive. Or Supernanny....

Kristine said...

I can't even begin to tell anyone here, how dead this Blog would be- if not for Kate's Twitter.

Keep on Truckin'...

Tamara said...

Over In Kate's County said... 79
What surprised me, admin, was that when they looked at property and purchased that house, the marriage was on the rocks. Why would you undertake a huge investment like that knowing that your marriage was unstable?
------------
Because they both knew they would fake a 'good' marriage as long as TLC was footing the bill? And in their minds the perks outweighed, well, common sense.

angie said...

Chefsummer, why are you so upset. The longer I come to this blog after a full day and sometimes night, it is fun to have fun with these remarkable people who do not "talk over each other" "do not lie to each other" and most importantly, like to have fun.
This Blog in many ways keeps Kate or Jon from harming the children with too much invasion of privacy and we do have a habit of reminding both that they are going too far.

Also we give constructive criticizm to Kate, helping her with her inability to see her reflection in the mirror, we must advise with toning down the yellow in her hair and to be careful with the thinning out of what once was a very thick and beautiful head of head, at that. Also, we guide her Tanning Chart, too well done, too late in the Season and that kind of thing. Most of all we do measure the skirt lengths so as not to have Kate appear hookerish. Can happen when the skirt hem exposes the V-J-J and we can't have that little landing strip wax job exposed for all the world to see in a publication. No, no, indeed.

Also, we just see ourselves as Crossing-Guards who protect the children as they cross the paths of life and remind Mom & Dad not to let them cross that street without looking both ways and also for Mom & Dad to look both ways too. The entire family looking both ways keeps the family safe, you know what I mean. Dopey me was going to use the analogy of the family that prays together, stays together, oh well!!!

Hope this info helped with the answer that we have full lives and like to help another family when we see "need"...so ya'll come back, ya hear? Good.

Lies Lies Lies said...

Initial lie: "I have PCOS!"

Most cruel lie: "Mommy and Daddy will be together forever."

Most common lie: "everything I do is for my kids."
Yeah, Joel wanted a mommy with big boobs.

Daily lies; "I love my tweeties!!!!!"

Kristine said...

We found out about the freebie grifted furniture and electronics contracts. I guess that was all we needed to know.

= Kate feigns good marriage, until 2009... then keeps brown leather sofa & 3D TV.

Got it.

Anonymous said...

Whoever gave me the name of PJ Tracy -

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!

I've now read all her books - she is one of the best new authors I've read in ages.

Readerlady, were you the one who said she reminded you of John Sanford? Oh yes... I agree... He's my hero, have all of his books, first editions. Read them over and over. Much pleasure.

For anyone who hasn't read her books yet, I encourage you to hop on board the Tracy Train. And suggest that you start at the beginning because each book builds on the previous one.

Excellent, excellent, excellent....

An aside, PJ Tracy is pseudonym for mother/daughter writing team - cool!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kristine you forgot about the part where she asked retired/disabled church ladies for donations while relaxing on her leather couch.

angie said...

Kristin, Do you realize how many hours, days have gone by with nothing but joking and very little about Kate at all? There are a bunch of exceptionally bright women with so many different interests, exchanging information about those interests on this blog. Everything from pet care, gardening, everyday uninvited house guests that are frightening, illness, ability to discuss personal problems and get various opinions. Just to name a few.

The whole world does not revolve around Kate Gosselin. What might have started as a plea to help those children has now turned into friendships with exchanges of recipes, opinions on everything from A to Z has been discussed over the years.

This is a good place to visit, sit a while and enjoy the sewing circle of very intelligent people. But we stay away from politics, sex and religion (although we all agree that whichever you practice, it is healthy to visit a House of Worship and raise your children in such)........

Sleepless In Seattle said...

Angie -- I think Kristine was talking about what we found out in Gosselinbook.

If I'm wrong, I apologize!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't know what to say about this article other than it's a must read. It's about a grandmother who took a separate one-on-one vacation with each of her grandkids--on a budget. And she made it all about them. Now that's how you travel. Now there's a grandmother who has a right to talk about making memories.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/30/travel/grandmother-traveling-with-kids/index.html?hpt=hp_bn10

overthehill said...

another lie from last year"kids in bed at 7.30 and me at 7.31"

eliza said...

Another lie.....

Coming very soon "How Kate Gosselin Fooled the World" by Robert Hoffman.

readerlady said...

Permanent -- No, I haven't read P.J. Tracy yet. I put the first 2 books on reserve at the library after someone else mentioned them the other day. Can't wait till they come in. I love discovering new authors!

JoyinVirginia said...

Tamara, I am another Big Brother fan! The last couple weeks have been amazing! Boogie gone home! Brit gone to jury house! And Joe and Jen are still there!
Great Britain has had a couple of celebrity Big Brothers that have gotten really heated. And the house was filled with British Z list celebrities, so if the us did something similar Ms Kreider would fit right in!

KAT said...

Hey JC..instead of talking about my personality...why don't we talk about all of the offers Kates been getting in show biz?.....yeah... I knew that would shut you up...CRICKETS....

angie said...

Morning Sleepless N Seattle, Oh, thanks for straightening me out. I thought it was about this Blog, which I hope continues long after Kate gives up on Twitter, her web site and anything Media related.

For a good laugh? Watch her on you tube.com and the Opening Act of the Emmy Show. Her web site on TLC, last one dated in 2011 talks about her breathlessness after performing to that magnificent audience and how when Jimmy Fallon said 1 2 3 4 and we all ran out on that stage and I put everything into performing. Well, I just laughed like crazy, as everyone she was performing with, have worked years and taking lessons and been rejected before they made it to that stage. Kate was just a part of that opening act because she was a "joke" from the reality world.

Guess next thing, Kate will start want a "Star" on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. It's coming, lol lol

Try to have a good day everyone. Stay healthy and enjoy the weather before we get hit with the remnants of Isaac.

mamasan said...

Meagler 187 --- I remember that episode. Everyone else including Jon walked in the front door. Kate and the kids came in a side door. Yes, there were pieces of cardboard to shield them from the p-people.

KAT said...

Oh good Lord....now she has the ability to wake up! Isn't she amazing?

kris said...

meagler said... 187
5. I dont know about a napkin with a script on it, or a piece of paper in her lap, but I do know that if you go to the screen at 41:42, you will see a piece of paper hanging in the upper right hand corner of the screen. The mike person or the boom person is hanging some type of note there.
**************
There is something hanging there! Maybe once I get home & look at it on my larger screen I can read it but I can't on this smaller screen I'm on. It looks like one of Kate's notes tho. Now I'm curious! lol

But I do believe that is Mady that says thank you.

Formerly Duped said...

Over In Kate's County said... 79
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I think in I Just Want You to Know, Kate said they HAD to move quickly after one of the OBX trips since the E-town house was surrounded by p-people and they also had vandalism such as egging, tires slashed etc. I believe she said TLC helped ( well, obviously with all the freebies) so maybe they wanted to take advantage since they knew the marriage was on the rocks and the show might be over...the timing of that doesn't seem quite right ,though?
It does seem silly to move into a mansion and all that goes with that if the marriage is dissolving. Jon loved the new place but got very little time in it.

Anonymous said...

From day one I have always believed that home was purchased because Kate and TLC planned on making it a TV studio and filming those kids until they were in college!

Fenced in and surrounded by trees, they could basically do anything they wanted, free of prying eyes.

chefsummer #Leh said...

angie said... 85

Me upset lol I thought I was typing calmly. :-)

Formerly Duped said...

kris said... 101
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I saw the paper on her knee, but it could have been a napkin, although weird place to put it! The line was forced and did not make sense, considering she later stated the meal was disgusting because she hates eggs.

I will look later to see if I can spot the paper beside the crew member.

Blowing In The Wind said...

kateplusmy8
@bouboudoglover I'm a mom of 8... I have eyes everywhere :) lol

She really is nothing without those kids, is she? EIGHT kids! I wonder if she knows that she's doing this -- constantly reminding everyone that she has EIGHT kids, or if she's been doing this day in and day out for eight years and for her it's just as natural as breathing.

Blowing In The Wind said...


I saw the paper on her knee, but it could have been a napkin, although weird place to put it! The line was forced and did not make sense, considering she later stated the meal was disgusting because she hates eggs.
----------------

Do you have the link to this video? Thanks!

Formerly Duped said...

Home Roost

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb20lmfTh5E&feature=relmfu

Watch from about 40:00 on so you can hear what Mady really thought of the meal, then at the table, you see her looking up, starting to say her line, then she does say "We are very very appreciative etc...you see the card or napkin?...but I didn't see anything beside the crew member but I only watched it briefly.

Formerly Duped said...

...oh, and a bit before 40:00 Kate is complaining about hoses and says ' a one-bedroom apt sounds very attractive right now,' and 'it's like working with a bunch of kindergarteners??' Later I SWEAR she explains she had a meltdown and states she 'uddered' that phrase. I'm sure she said "uddered !"

JoyinVirginia said...

What's everyone doing for Labor Day?
Anyone in the Gulf Coast region or along the path of Isaac remnants who will be drying out?
The youngest dd is doing fine at college so far. For the past five years she had band camp around this time of year, school here always starts right after Labor Day, so I am definitely feeling like something is missing!
We are off to Outer Banks tomorrow. I have a collection of fantasy short stories for beach reading, and a Carl Hiaasen novel, someone on this blog recommended.
Admin, is our next party Labor Day or Sept 12? Or both? I am going into rumspringa withdrawal I think!

KAT said...

For Labor Day...I'm looking foward to all the tourists leaving and getting our beach back and taking the traffic with them....also getting my kids ready for school...It's the most wonderful time of the year(singing)....

Jane said...

JoyinVirginia said... 110
What's everyone doing for Labor Day?

--------

Heading to the Green Mountains of Vermont in an hour or so - can't wait! Hope to get to 'The Farmer's Wife' and also downloaded 'The Known World' by Edward P. Jones so I'm set. There's a wonderful farmers' market I always visit to stock up on maple syrup, pies and jams. And oh, those mountains - so spectacular.

JoyinVA - we've been talking about renting a place on the Outer Banks for a few weeks next spring/summer and perhaps we can discuss, when I get back, the best way to go about finding something nice? I could use some help with this!!

AuntieAnn said...

@TheAustinMartin that happens at our SB sometimes! Wonderful isn't it? I love doing it back :) 57 minutes ago
=====

I wonder if she considers that 'charity work'.

Call Me Crazy said...

I have been working out of town, so I wasn't able to check in after yesterday morning. I apologize that my attempt to have a discussion with a Kate supporter the other day turned into such a ruckus. I did not intend for that to happen. (And to address one comment from yesterday - discussion between two parties cannot continue if one party decides to stop discussing.)

Admin, I think the way you have decided to handle certain issues here is genius. I will be adopting your AGREE, AGREE, AGREE policy.

KAT said...

For us renting from a realitor in the area we were interested in was the best bet.....We rented in Florida in April and they made it so easy for us.....Everything can be done thru e-mail...Payments, contracts.....They do have some sites you can rent from like "Home Away"..but I don't know reliable they are...

Blowing In The Wind said...


Watch from about 40:00 on so you can hear what Mady really thought of the meal, then at the table, you see her looking up, starting to say her line, then she does say "We are very very appreciative etc...you see the card or napkin?...but I didn't see anything beside the crew member but I only watched it briefly.

---------------

Thanks. There is something on her lap, but if I'm looking at the right part, I'm not sure it's a napkin because she has finished eating, her plate is gone from the table, so why would there still be a napkin on her lap if she has taken her plate to the sink? I think it's too small to be a napkin, if you look at the size of the other napkins that are on the table. They are larger.

One thing I had forgotten -- Kate lying on the table to eat...both arms on the table. What horrible manners. I wonder if she eats like that when she's at Fig and Olive.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Labor Day plans: Going to the gym today, college football season beings tomorrow so that will be couch time. Later we're climbing Mount Echo, never done it before, supposed to have great views of L.A. On Sunday church followed by an annual chili cookoff and carnival I haven't missed in seven years. Monday no plans, maybe relax, tidy up a bit, cook. I ADORE Labor Day weekend.

silimom said...

Has anyone been following the Leann Rimes Twitter lawsuit/drama? It's kind of fascinating to watch it play out given the recent "Kate lover/hater" conversations we've been having here. The backlash from some commenters has been interesting as well, i.e. most people think it's so middle school.

What is it about some celebs that seems to bring out that adolescent drama ? Miss Rimes is 30 years old but it can be argued she didn't really have a childhood. Are she and her fans/non fans working through teenage angst - i.e. I'm in the popular crowd now or I'm going to be the bully now? Are most of these people who go to such extremes in their 20's and are still growing up and how did society get to a place where this extended adolescence became acceptable? Or are these middle aged "Peter Pans" who never grew up in the first place? Or a bit of both? Are people more rude now a days because technology allows anonymity and this has carried over into our daily lives? Has it always been this way or is this a recent phenomenon?

I don't want to open the love/hate can of worms again because things have calmed down here but I truly am curious and think this is such an interesting phenomenon, both with regards to Miss Rimes, Ms. Gosselin, Ms. Lohan and a slew of other celebrities out there.

capecodmama said...

Labor Day plans: Hitting the beach! It's going to be gorgeous this weekend. Made plans last weekend at my HS reunion to get together this weekend with some classmates so we are doing that Sunday night. Looking forward to driving the roads of the Cape without the summer traffic. Although we do appreciate the visitors and the revenue they bring to the area, it's nice to have the Cape to ourselves. Fall is the best time of year around here as far as I'm concerned. College football starts. WooHoo! Go 'Bama!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Audible Click hasn't checked in yet, hope all is well.

A lot of people here are going to get a lot of rain as Isaac moves up the middle of the US. Check in with us!

AuntieAnn said...

Formerly Duped said... 109

...oh, and a bit before 40:00 Kate is complaining about hoses and says ' a one-bedroom apt sounds very attractive right now,' and 'it's like working with a bunch of kindergarteners??' Later I SWEAR she explains she had a meltdown and states she 'uddered' that phrase. I'm sure she said "uddered !"
====

Watching the last few minutes of Home Roost, listening to Kate complain about all the work that has to be done knowing full well she's not going to be doing any of it herself, and being SO impatient with those kids makes me want to slap her silly.

Then I think about her polar opposite Juanita, who worked her fingers to the bone trying to keep that farm on its feet, and it makes me want to cry.

silimom said...

Labor Day plans: Catching up on all my laundry! That's the first and foremost priority. The rest are in no particular order - Playing with the dog and working on some of his training exercises. Playing with my kids. Tidying up the house. Talking with my husband about revamping the house rules now that my 21 year old SD has moved home. Scanning a whole bunch of documents in hopes of decreasing the massive amount of paper my document hoarder husband has collected over the years (the man insists on keeping a year's worth of utility bills because he writes the check number on them after he pays them and "If something goes wrong, then I can find that information again." Insert eye roll here. So I've decided that scanning the information is the best way for us to both get what we want.)

But I digress. Baking cookies. Girl Scout meeting planning and just general calendar coordination/planning for all the various household activities. Talking to my sister. Going to church. Being lazy. Playing World of Warcraft.

The usual. :-)

Crusin Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

capecodmama said... 119

Labor Day plans: Hitting the beach! It's going to be gorgeous this weekend.

*************

Do you want to meet for breakfast at Persys on Main in Hyannis? My treat! :)

Dwindle said...

Call Me Crazy said... 114
I have been working out of town, so I wasn't able to check in after yesterday morning. I apologize that my attempt to have a discussion with a Kate supporter the other day turned into such a ruckus. I did not intend for that to happen. (And to address one comment from yesterday - discussion between two parties cannot continue if one party decides to stop discussing.)
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

You have not one single thing to apologize for. Not one, so just stop that right now. Do you HEAR me stomping my foot at you? hehe. I too apologized for whatever I did, but YOU were trying to DISCUSS ISSUES, which is what we do here.

Crazy, in the words of Mr Rogers, I like you just the way you are. sniffle...

Formerly Duped said...

Dwindle said...124

Crazy, in the words of Mr Rogers, I like you just the way you are. sniffle...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Agree. And don't start me sniffling too. What a wonderful human being Fred Rogers was.

Jumping In said...

Formally Duped...108

Thanks for the Home Roost link. I stopped watching the show when Jon and Kate
we're still married, I simply could not watch Kate berate Jon the way she did. I skimmed through to the table scene in this episode and this is what I saw, (once I was given the appropriate clues.) I saw a controlling, detached mother who does not give a whit about any of her 8 children's opinions.

It was blatantly clear to me that Mady had been silenced by her mother and told not to protest the all-egg dinner. As retaliation, she gave the cameraman a not-so-subtle eye roll, as she was clearly not pleased with having to eat various versions of a food she "hates"

IMO, Mady was told to say something nice about her mother's egg dinner. I suspect when she refused to say she liked eggs and would not say she did, she was given an option. That option was to thank her mother for her EFFORT in making the egg dinner, so it was a win/win all around. And yes, I think Mady read her line from her lap. Remember, this is television, when reality looks too real, give 'em something good to say! Was it the Producer who stepped in or was it Kate?

This isn't about my perception of this particular event, I never would have picked upon any of this if I had not been given the clues here. However, this episode clearly illustrates to me why I did not, could not watch this woman's attempt to control everyone and everything in her world.

What is absent is any display of warmth between Kate and her kids. I learned that Kate feeds her kids in controlled portions, she expects to be complimented for providing a meal, and does not normally indulge in desserts. I also learned she does not appear to know or understand her 8 INDIVIDUAL children's wants and needs, much less does it seem to matter to her.


pink slime said...

What Would Fred Rogers Do? I don't think he'd approve of kids on reality shows, kids' photos on the internet, exposing kids' private moments, using kids to make money. Too bad he is not with us anymore.

Anonymous said...

Kate’s lawyer is representing the mother, who dressed her daughter as Dolly Parton, in a custody battle.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/08/toddlers_tiaras_custody_battle_should_maddy_verst_s_pageant_mom_be_punished_.html

http://populagram.appspot.com/user/toddlersandtiaras

JoyinVirginia said...

Silimom, I think what we see on twitter is same thing people used to write on bathroom walls, but only folks who knew people irl would see or hear the comments.
Have you ever seen the movie ” Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back”? The writer and director Kevin Smith had been criticized in very crude and harsh terms on different boards, about his films, about selling out and trying to go mainstream. Since his first film Clerks had the f word prominently featured in dialogue, well.... Even the people who like Kevin say f all the time!
Go to imdb.com page for Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, and read the opening scene dialogue.
Anyway, Kevin Smith was a tad frustrated with the anonymous adolescent or older internet critics. So at the end of the movie, Jay and Silent Bob travel the country and visit the homes of those internet critics do they can beat them up. the entire movie is hilarious, and that ending is funny but also an inside joke for the internet fans and critics.
And I an still amazed that people are surprised at the vitriol. spend a few minutes on any political site and you will see vicious language and personal attacks. It is the anonymity that let's people be more negative than they would be in person. maybe not too surprising, since back in the day there were duels over insults to honor.

Sweet Tart said...

I definitely snark on a whole slew of has-been, never-really-were, D-list and beyond "celebs" who desperately try to stay in the public spotlight through all sorts of stunts. I think Jon made some attempts to generate income based on his "former celeb" status, but obviously it didn't pan out. I don't really see him making efforts to be in the public spotlight recently, nor doing publicity stunts or shilling on Twitter for various companies. My hope for Jon is that he is content with his average, everyday life; that he builds a successful career in his field so that he can support his children; and that he ultimately settles down with a nice, normal woman who has no interest in fame or being in the public eye.

As to Kate, she has always pushed to be in the spotlight, and if that means pimping out her kids, she'll do it in a heartbeat. I see a difference between the two of them, with Kate being the perpetual fame-seeker vs. Jon who seems to have learned from his past bad choices. I hope I'm right, because those children need at least one parent who is well-grounded and focused on being a good parent and role model for them.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate’s lawyer is representing the mother, who dressed her daughter as Dolly Parton, in a custody battle.

&&&&

TYPICAL. Nice pick Kate. I wonder if she is someone TLC found for her since those are both TLC shows.

Question, who goes to law school thinking I want to devote my career to the noble cause of washed up reality stars and national jokes.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Fred Roger believed children deserved respect.

I think what's happened to kids on TV would horrify the man.

wayward said...

Formerly Duped said... 102
Over In Kate's County said... 79
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I think in I Just Want You to Know, Kate said they HAD to move quickly after one of the OBX trips since the E-town house was surrounded by p-people and they also had vandalism such as egging, tires slashed etc. ***************************************
Westbrooke might know better about what actually happened, but it's my understanding their tires were never slashed. The vandalisim story was cooked up to justify moving to a 1.2 million dollar mansion.

Their E-town house did have droves of tourists drive by and people coming up to knock on the door, prompting that "Go the F away" sign in the yard (lol) It appears that they had been looking at properties for some time, in and out of state as soon as the show became a hit and they were getting the $25,000/gig speaking fee.

The problem with the E-Town house was not so much it being too small, but it was in too close of a proximity to other humans. When Good Housekeeping came to shoot their fall cover story in August, it was a 94 degree day. They were there from early morning to late in the night. They were all out on their deck for a long time wearing sweaters. The neighbors heard lots of crying and commotion and word got out. While Kate tried to make filming sound unobtrusive and minimal, like just a couple crew daddies were there fliming with camcorders, it was really a full production studio with stage lights permanently installed in the house. The neighbors saw this, in addition to retake after retake. Kate's version of R little show and the neighbors version were not matching. In addition, the neighborhood is not zoned for the way Jon and Kate were using it, although I don't know if this was ever brought to their attention.

The Wernersville house was owned by a prominent obstetrician Kate would of HAD to have worked with at Reading Hospital. I'm sure Kate loved nothing more that to smugly sit there at closing with her F-U smirk. The fact that almost an entire show was dedicated to making America aware of how filthy the former owners were, tells me she was harboring a jumbo-sized grudge against them/him. It was in the middle of 23 acres, and an electric gate and fencing was going to be installed ASAP. No more people disputing Kate's constant lies.


It is my humble opinion Kate knew she was divorcing Jon when she signed the papers for the new house. She needed him to get the house, but once they were in it, this is when she allegedly approached him saying it was over, he could do what he wanted as long as they pretended to be happily married for R show. Narcissists are intolerable on a good day. Give a narccissist vast quantities of money and they become monsters. At that time, it seemed Kate was done having personal relationships (including her own husband) and wanted only people who were employed by her in her circle. I.E. total control and total compliance under penalty of losing their job.

Kate had lots of stuff to hide. She needed a secluded house and a team of people who signed confidentiality agreements to keep it all hidden.

There's been alot of people coming on here demanding to know what Kate has done that is so bad. Apparently, a lengthy book about all of it was written. Whether we see it or not is another story and I firmly believe Kate paid the author off to make it go away. She also paid some Beverly Hills lawyers a boatload to stop the book as well. Kate has some skeletons in her closet. I don't know what else to say to her fans who have so many questions, other than innocent people with nothing to hide don't do this.

Sweet Tart said...

"kateplusmy8: It's parent night in our middle school... Just left Public speaking class and I'm currently in Spanish class! :)"
***
I think Kate didn't want to interact with the other parents, so she shut them out by being busy tweeting. She has terrible social skills. Further, it is a real shame that she can't even focus on being in the moment for one evening, during back to school night. I'm sure her childrens' teachers would have appreciated if Kate could have given them the courtesy of her undivided attention.
* * *


jclentie said... 61
Why don't you just leave Kate alone and live your life with no thought of hers. Or don't you all have lives outside of hating Kate and researching everything she does?

Jclentie, you sound young to me, perhaps still in your teens. Part of human nature is to notice other people's behavior and judge it based on how we would have chosen to react in the same situation. I don't hate Kate - but I think she's a terrible mother and an incredibly self-centered person. I have no respect for her.

I'd like to point out that if Kate hadn't tweeted (publicly) about back to school night, right in the middle of it, none of us would have given any thought to what she was doing that evening. Kate invites public notice of her every mediocre move, such as "Just left Public Speaking class and I'm currently in Spanish class." I'm a mother and have been to ten back to school nights. Never once have I felt the need to tweet, post on FB, text, or call my friends and family to tell them "I just left son's History classroom and now I'm sitting in his English class!" For one thing, I'm supposed to be focused on what my child's teacher want to share with us all; and secondly, who cares?

I suggest that if our conversation is so bothersome to you, the wiser and more mature course would be to go elsewhere on the internet, where you could converse with like-minded people and enjoy the conversation. (I suspect that those places are fewer and farther between than they once were, as most Kate fans have either moved on to someone else, or have outgrown their infatuation with her.)

LeeLee said...

Cruisin and Capecodmama, I'm in your neck of the woods too! Gorgeous weekend at the beach and one last shot at the drive-in. Perfect end to summer. So lucky to be here :)

Call Me Crazy said...

Oh, Dwindle and Formerly Duped. Thank you! It is a beautiful day in this neighborhood! RIP Mister Rogers.

Formerly Duped said...

wayward said... 133
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanks for your clarification. That makes way more sense than the version in the book. Kate has no personal relationships left from her 'old' life except maybe Jamie as far as we know. That's pathetic and sad for the kids who must ask where their old friends and relatives are. Or maybe they do see them through Jon- if so, that's great. It's too bad if Hoffman was paid off- can't blame him in a way with lawyers involved, but the info in his book doesn't end there, I'm sure.I think the 'truth ' will be outed, perhaps when the kids are grown, if their brainwashing is not all-encompassing.

As for jclentie, I'm not wasting any time responding to more 'dribble' as Kate would say.

LaLaLandNoMore said...

The bottom line with me re: the Gosselins is that they "blew it." They had a chance of a lifetime and they behaved so badly that they just ruined all of their fame. Back to "mediocre" life they go. I've always wondered why Kate was so freaked out by having her family photographed. She put them out there. Two sets of multiples, twins and sextuplets would draw attention, even if they had never been on television. I know they sold pics at $20 cash each, but a snapshot should be expected everytime you step outside. No charge. The greed is so over the top. Disgusting, really.

SS Blvd said...

In the video at the dinner table, did anyone else notice how one of the kids says to Kate, "I thought you were going to lie. You always lie"? It occurs just before Kate talks about pigs flying. Guess they have her pegged.

Dwindle said...

Kristine said... 87
We found out about the freebie grifted furniture and electronics contracts. I guess that was all we needed to know.

= Kate feigns good marriage, until 2009... then keeps brown leather sofa & 3D TV.

Got it.
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

THIS site has nothing to do with that Hoffman guy. If someone is annoyed with him for not releasing his book, they should take their complaints directly to his website, which will refer you directly to Kate's Hollywood lawyer.

Tucker's Mom said...

I don't want to open the love/hate can of worms again because things have calmed down here but I truly am curious and think this is such an interesting phenomenon, both with regards to Miss Rimes, Ms. Gosselin, Ms. Lohan and a slew of other celebrities out there.
******
No can opening here! Miss Rimes seems to have a life of beach vacations with no end to her fascination with photographing herself in bikinis. We get it, your rail-thin!!
I agree there's a Girl Interrupted in there somewhere and it's unfortunate that it seems Miss Rimes really doesn't have a serious musical career anymore. And she's only 30!

Dwindle said...

chefsummer said... 104
angie said... 85

Me upset lol I thought I was typing calmly. :-)
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

LOL! I think there was a moment of confusion, you were quoting another 'upset' poster, and that quote may have been mistakenly thought to be your own words.


capecodmama said...

Cruisin and LeeLee...

Maybe we should all get together for breakfast. Haven't been to Persey's in awhile. Last time I was there I wasn't impressed. Has it gotten better?

Tucker's Mom said...

LaLaLandNoMore said... 138
The bottom line with me re: the Gosselins is that they "blew it." They had a chance of a lifetime and they behaved so badly that they just ruined all of their fame. Back to "mediocre" life they go. I've always wondered why Kate was so freaked out by having her family photographed. She put them out there.
********
When I recently re-watched the RV episode, what stood out to me was how much Kate was stressed and complained about the occasional photograph, I'm sorry, "unauthorized" photographs.
She's famous, the kids are famous and oh right, she travels with an entourage and a camera crew. Of course she's going to draw attention!
She just pissed and moaned and ruined everyone's time. She just can handle it, after all this time.
So, I don't believe her "just ask me and you can take my photo, happily!".

Mel said...

In the video at the dinner table, did anyone else notice how one of the kids says to Kate, "I thought you were going to lie. You always lie"? It occurs just before Kate talks about pigs flying.

Yep. She tries to cover it up by talking over the kid about pigs flying.

I watched that video again...as someone suggested. :-)


Notice at 41:12 you can see a note taped to the chandelier light, in front of Mady. How coincidental!

At 41:22 Mady looks up at the note, as Kate is talking. You can see Mady getting ready to say a word that starts with TH. Kate continues mumbling and Mady can't say her line. Mady looks back down, looking directly at Kate now, waiting for Kate to stop talking so Mady can say her line. You can see Mady politely waiting for a break in the talking so she can get her line in.

At 41:42 the writing on the note is more visible, although I can't make it out exactly. Looks like the last two words are: "the meal!" Hmm....looks like it says "Thank you mommy for the meal!"

The note is clearly visible hanging from the light for this sequence.

At the beginning of this sequence notice that there are 8 divided plates with kids's food on them...and TWO circular plates with salads on them. Guess Kate must have eaten two salads, eh?

Also notice the skimpy food. One of the 8 divided plates didn't even have a sandwich on it.

Each kid only got:
1/2 of a hamburger bun egg salad sandwich
1/2 deviled egg
a few chips (?)
a few orange things (carrots?)
egg custard

Not much food.

Thanks to the poster who suggested that I review this video. I saw TONS more things than what I'd noticed the first time!

Wish I knew how to blow up that note to see what's written on it, though. :-)


Audible Click said...

Audible Click checking in. We made it through the hurricane with a few branches from the oak tree down, leaves all over, and my ginger garden looking pretty sad. I count us as lucky. My son is sending two of his employees to replace our water heater (which decided to leak all over during the storm) and will help clear the yard this weekend. Thanks, Admin, for caring.

wayward said...

jclentie said... 61
Why don't you just leave Kate alone and live your life with no thought of hers. Or don't you all have lives outside of hating Kate and researching everything she does?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm going to take a stab here and I'm going to try to be brief, as I tend to often be a book writer and a point belaborer.

99.99999% of celebrities and families who have high order multiples guard their children's privacy almost obsessively. Jon and Kate did the polar opposite, putting their children on TV ad nauseam, and making this the family's sole source of income. This was very concerning for the people who watched the show and took an interest in this family. It was even more alarming when a 1.2 million dollar estate was purchased, with only the fleeting income of a reality show to pay for it. And worse than both of those events, the children were taken away from the last remaining blood relatives they had contact with, replaced with paid nannies. Due to many citizen inquiries, the PA Dept. of Labor investigated and later concluded the children were working. Had no one spoken up and requested the DoL look into this, it would have never been discovered that no money was being put away on the children's behalf for their futures.

This investigation prompted PA Rep. Murt to draft legislation changing the rules for child performers in this state.

In a perfect world, all parents would instinctively know that they should support their children, not the other way around. But this is not a perfect world. Sometimes outside agencies must intervene when that parent is not acting in the best interest of their children.

Their mother has not had any substancial employment for a full year. She is allowed to use the small amount of money that was put aside for the kids for their education, health etc. It appears that instead of getting a job and downsizing to a more affordable home, Kate is going to spend every last dime of the money earned as a reality show participant, to live a lifestyle she cannot sustain. Our fear is that those kids who were deemed to be working by the state of PA, will have not a dime left when they are adults or college age.

We have formed a community who discussed this, among other things. As Sweet Tart said, if you do not like reading it, please don't. But we are well within out constitutional rights to do so.

LancasterCountyMom said...

Lancaster County Parent said: "I don't consider to be Shady Maple Farm Market to be "discount" or organic. Nice place, yes; cheap, no. Has she ever mention Amelia's?"

Shady Maple is defnitely not discount, lol!

And sssssshhhhhhh!! Keep her away from Amelia's!!! (Though it's not as good as it used to be.)

wayward said...

LancasterCountyMom said... 148
Lancaster County Parent said: "I don't consider to be Shady Maple Farm Market to be "discount" or organic. Nice place, yes; cheap, no. Has she ever mention Amelia's?"

Shady Maple is defnitely not discount, lol!

And sssssshhhhhhh!! Keep her away from Amelia's!!! (Though it's not as good as it used to be.)
****************************************
Lol! All through the recent slicer-gate I just chuckled to myself. Several years ago, I bought a mediocre meat slicer at the Good's Store beside Shady Maple. I think I was in a buffet-induced food coma... lol. I think it's Proctor Silex brand and I have used it only a handful of times since. It's a pain in the arse to take apart and clean! My neighbors all know I have it and they've used it many times for their own parties or preparing for after funeral meals. It was only $50 so I don't mind that it lives in the basement mostly undisturbed. Kate paid anywhere from $300-700 for hers. It's going to be a very expen$ive dust catcher.

AuntieAnn said...

Re: Kate's Happy Lies

Question. Does the 'good bra' count as two lies?

readerlady said...

i'm trying to figure out what to do with myself on Labor Day. For the first time in many years I won't be working the Muscular Dystrophy Telethon. I've been involved with it since I was 19, but with the change in format, they're using fewer volunteers -- at least in this area. I'm going on a picnic on Sunday, but Monday is blank. Maybe I'll catch up on my reading. The weatherman is predicting thunderstorms, so it might be a good day to stay in.

Anonymous said...

JoyinVirginia said... 110

What's everyone doing for Labor Day?
Anyone in the Gulf Coast region or along the path of Isaac remnants who will be drying out?
The youngest dd is doing fine at college so far. For the past five years she had band camp around this time of year, school here always starts right after Labor Day, so I am definitely feeling like something is missing!
We are off to Outer Banks tomorrow. I have a collection of fantasy short stories for beach reading, and a Carl Hiaasen novel, someone on this blog recommended.
Admin, is our next party Labor Day or Sept 12? Or both? I am going into rumspringa withdrawal I think!

************************************************

We have the wedding of a family friend to attend tomorrow night.

The rest of Labor Day weekend will be dedicated to family & dogs, a few friends, resting, relaxing, and BBQ-ing for us here.

I hope everyone enjoys their Labor Day weekend!



Bearswife said...

I watched the beginning of home roost and in the first TWO minutes she tells a lie. First she says she buys 4-5 dozen eggs a week, then when the farmers get there she says they use 2-3 dozen a day. Gimme a friggin break! Shut up woman. 
This is why I can't listen to her at all.
I fast forwarded to the end and it is so obvious it is scripted. I think kHate makes them praise her.
Oh she gets on my last nerve, she is despicable!

As for the long weekend, the bear and I are going away. Monday is our anniversary, so we are going to the town where we met. Not as romantic as it sounds, it's more of a guys weekend with the missus tagging along. Lots of beer and fishing, but I like both!

Have a good weekend guys!

AuntieAnn said...

wayward said... 149
All through the recent slicer-gate I just chuckled to myself. Several years ago, I bought a mediocre meat slicer at the Good's Store beside Shady Maple. I think I was in a buffet-induced food coma... lol. I think it's Proctor Silex brand and I have used it only a handful of times since.
====
Sigh. I humbly submit I used my meat slicer yesterday to shave a roast for beef dip. I can't help it. I like it. A lot. Did I mention I like kitchen gadgets?

Dwindle said...

ElisabethK said... 15
I don't understand this post at all. Are you trying to not only justify Kate's pathological lying, but imply that it is, in fact, a good thing?
######################
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 17
Elisabeth this is the point of the post, and to just discuss lying in general:

Kate's web of lies has caught up with her time and time again, and yet something keeps driving her to keep on spinning them. Is it because it makes her happier to put up such a facade?


-------
-------

Elizabeth makes a good point here, not with her actual statement (which was fine!) but by expressing her confusion. I think a lot of folks who dont spend time here assume this blog is making determinations and taking a hard stand on all things Jon and Kate. People dont understand that FREQUENTLY a thread or topic is something offered up to discuss. Usually the regulars come to a concensus after discussion, but not always.

The regulars, in addition to the regular lurkers, have a usual way of considering a topic and discussing it. Not all folks process things the same way, and when drive-bys chime in THAT is when the dust ups occur. It's not that newcomers arent welcome, it's just that this blog has a rhythm and a process and when someone jumps in one their first day with guns blazing and name calling, that poster really stands out.

There ARE blogs out there, many in fact, who operate this way. Over the top name calling, finger pointing, etc is part of THEIR process and rhythm, and posters who want to discuss the plain topic are considered boring whimps.

**About 7 years ago, there was a public blog and a group of about 45 folks became the "regulars". Always in 'trouble' for breaking the rules etc. Those 45 folks formed their own site. You had to be invited, registered, and have a password to get in.The links are completely hidden and cannot even be viewed. For the past 2 years I have been the current admin of that site, but I am just the current caretaker. We are now beginning to deal with the deaths of some members. New ones come on it. The blog goes on. We phone each other on holidays and birthdays, many have met each other.

What I am saying is that THIS blog is a special place, and likely will continue to grow into something even more special. People here are forming nice e-friendships. I dont think this is anything our Admin planned on. As Kate continues to JUST DWINDLE AWAY hehe, this blog might continue because the rhythm here is different and special.

>> I wasnt going to post this, but here I did anyway. Admin, feel free to delete this if it is disruptive.

Dwindle said...

AuntieAnn said... 154
wayward said... 149
All through the recent slicer-gate I just chuckled to myself. Several years ago, I bought a mediocre meat slicer at the Good's Store beside Shady Maple. I think I was in a buffet-induced food coma... lol. I think it's Proctor Silex brand and I have used it only a handful of times since.
====
Sigh. I humbly submit I used my meat slicer yesterday to shave a roast for beef dip. I can't help it. I like it. A lot. Did I mention I like kitchen gadgets?
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

You havent mentioned that! do tell! LOL!

I used mine (a very cheapy one) when my kids were at home and I was on a budget. Yesterday I saw that big tube of bologna at the stoe and I checked the price, it was $1.50 PER POUND. Now I remember how much money I was saving by using the slicer for bologna, home beef roasts, roasted turkey breasts, etc. (yes, most of those cold cuts are bad for you, like bologna, but I didnt know that 30 years ago.)

Anyway, we use ours now about twice a year. More often when we have just bought a side of beef coz HunnyBunny makes beef jerky and gives it out at Christmas. Those sibs grew up like that, those things were considered a great Xmas gift and SOMEONE has to make their late parents' jerky, so it might as well be HunnyBunny.

When I had the kids home, I used it about every other month. Made lots of roasts, lots of slices and freezed it all. Made a weekend of it and put the slicer back in the basement. It was pretty much just for their school lunches, although I did get to the point when i was working AND in school full time that I would pull out some of that sliced meat and put in a pan with gravy for a quick dinner.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Happy Labor Day weekend all. Unlike Kate who is probably all alone and hugging her phone for comfort, we are spending the weekend hosting family, including 2 of our toddler grandsons, and will be hanging around, going to the park, barbecuing, and watching baseball/football/soccer on tv. And eating ice cream. Watching my 2 little ones, who are average in size, eat healthily and happily, I am saddened to think of Kate and her skimpy servings and portion control issues. Next weekend we are reuniting with extended family for a wedding, the last cousin's child to tie the knot. This is what family life should be, and let me just say if not family, than close friends - we have deep ties with some friends going back decades now.

Sorry that all Kate has for company are her twitter tweenie friends. Oh, and crazy Milo. Her fault for sure, but pathetic all the same.

wayward said...

AuntieAnn said... 154
wayward said... 149
All through the recent slicer-gate I just chuckled to myself. Several years ago, I bought a mediocre meat slicer at the Good's Store beside Shady Maple. I think I was in a buffet-induced food coma... lol. I think it's Proctor Silex brand and I have used it only a handful of times since.
====
Sigh. I humbly submit I used my meat slicer yesterday to shave a roast for beef dip. I can't help it. I like it. A lot. Did I mention I like kitchen gadgets?
_________________________________________

Lol AuntieAnn! I like gadgets too! I used to be front and center at every Pampered Chef party I was invited to. Then, I discovered I could buy the PC gadgets cheaper on ebay.

My most used gadgets are my Vidalia food chopper, I've gone through 3 of those. It was a seen on TV item but still available on Amazon. I can quickly turn out tons of pico de gallo with that wonder. My other favorite is the Silvermark salad chopper. I saw the inventor on Oprah years ago and ordered one right away. It's only one piece and you only need one hand to make a quick chopped salad. Then into the dishwasher it goes!!

Audible Click, so glad to hear you are ok!

Happy Labor Day everyone! While the summer went way too fast, I can't wait for crisp fall weather and football!

Tamara said...

Labor Day I'll still be in Dublin celebrating an Irish win. Or a Navy win. Or just the fact that the football season has started.

Anonymous said...


A few months ago, there was a bug debate regarding the Teach for America program. This week's Room for Debate (New York Times) topic is Teach for America.

I haven't read through the opinions yet. Here's the link.

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/08/30/is-teach-for-america-working/?ref=opinion&gwh=4ED0A98C4671C4A97B00BCCCB5909546

heather

Tamara said...

Silimom said... Playing World of Warcraft.
The usual. :-)
-----------------
HA you nearly owed me a new remote! Luckly ice cream doesn't fly as far as a liquid would. :)

SG said...

I love my mandoline slicer.

I also love my KitchenAid food processor when I actually use it. I don't use it as often as I thought I would.

I LOVE my crock pot.

Dwindle said...

OrangeCrusher1 said... 157
Happy Labor Day weekend all. Unlike Kate who is probably all alone and hugging her phone for comfort, we are spending the weekend hosting family, including 2 of our toddler grandsons, and will be hanging around, going to the park, barbecuing, and watching baseball/football/soccer on tv. And eating ice cream. Watching my 2 little ones, who are average in size, eat healthily and happily, I am saddened to think of Kate and her skimpy servings and portion control issues. Next weekend we are reuniting with extended family for a wedding, the last cousin's child to tie the knot. This is what family life should be, and let me just say if not family, than close friends - we have deep ties with some friends going back decades now.

Sorry that all Kate has for company are her twitter tweenie friends. Oh, and crazy Milo. Her fault for sure, but pathetic all the same.

1111111111111111111111111

We treasure our extended family, and our family's extended family. And where do you really draw the line with good family friends of years and years? No matter when we go to one of MY siblings homes for a gathering, there is extended family and LONG time friends there and it feels so good.

I know I have told you all how we love to have folks over for a bon fire in the summers on our very modest brick patio. It is to be expected that when i invite my youngest brother and his wife, they will arrive with some other couple that I am very familiar with, usually someone that my bro grew up with.

I dont know how you remain as secluded as kate and deliberately teach your children that seclusion, superiority, and paranoia is the way to live. To this day, my kids, most of them in their 30's consider the children of our life long family friends their 'cousins'. Seriously. It is a joy to see them now, all of them grown, take their relationships on their own shoulders and consider each other family.

I am really speaking from the heart on this today as J, who is one of my daughter's friends since Brownies days, is finally pregnant at age 38 after years and years of trying. I feel like this is my own grandbaby. But J is in the process now of being diagnosed with Lupus we think, and this is all as heavy on my heart as if she were my own. All i can do is support her dear mom, support J, support the whole gang of those 38 year olds who have remained oddly close since 3rd grade.

What happened to Katie that she missed out on all this? Where are her parents, her cousins? I swear this girl was raised in a cave by rodents.

Life is strange. Ya know?

JoyinVirginia said...

For Jane 512 re renting houses in the OBX, there are several rental companies and many folks who rent their houses directly. We have done both and had good experiences both ways. Only advice is to definitely get travel insurance if you are coming during hurricane season. OBX has been very fortunate this year, but last year people on Hatteras were cut off except for the emergency ferry because Hurricane Irene destroyed the road by Murlo Beach. trip insurance will kick in in case of mandatory evacuations.
I also suggest think about saving money by getting a house a block our two away from the beach. Beach front rentals are much more expensive. The walk to the beach from one or two blocks away is quick. If you want more info, send admin an email and maybe she could forward it to me.... Please, admin if it its not to much trouble?
Some rental companies are coverealty.com , outerbeaches.com , elanvacations.com , villagerealtyobx.com
Also, I like access to a pool, so if the house doesn't have a pool ask if it includes YMCA membership for your stay.

Anonymous said...

SG,
I love my crock pot, too!!

And my single serve coffee maker. Perfect for just me, no other coffee drinkers around.

Jumping In said...

I want to clarify something I said in my last post about the Home Roost episode.

One does not need to be given clues from anyone when it comes to Kate's behavior, that is blatantly obvious. The clues I picked up on here (from other posters) was strictly in reference to Mady's supposed unscripted compliment of Kate's egg dinner. IMO, she was told to make nice.

There, now I feel better. Happy Labour Day weekend from Vancouver!

Mel said...

I adore kitchen gadgets, also! My very very favorite is my 11 cup Cuinsart food processor. As old as the hills, but works like a charm.

Mel said...

Ever notice how we never see Kate actually cooking?

We just see her serving already prepared food out of containers.

I'm trying to recall if we've ever seen her with the packages out on the counter, actually measuring out ingredients and mixing them.

I think we have maybe seen her mixing ingredients, but they were already measured out, ready to go.

In later years, we haven't seen her standing at the stove actually cooking anything. That egg dinner, everything was prepared and she was just dishing it out.

Hmmmm.....

Formerly Duped said...

Yes, Kate was shown making chicken cacciatore (sp) on Farm to Table, 'soups' in Soup & a Surprise, and a whole batch of dinners prior to her tummy tuck. Sara snow cooked alongside heron that episode. She also made her famous not-pink-in-the-center meatloaf once. Waffles, scrambled eggs etc. Assembling lunch fruit & crackers etc. as well as sandwiches 'cut on the diagonal.' Then there was 'sammynella' chicken on the BBQ.

Jon made a very tasty looking Korean dinner while she taunted him and dithered about 'her kitchen.'

AuntieAnn said...

I don't use my little meat slicer on a daily basis but it's still not ready for retirement. I just do not like the deli slices of turkey or beef. They taste rubbery (?) or something.

Dwindle -
Your HunnyBunny and my HubbaBubba must be kindred spirits. He loves to make jerky too. If we could ever get our hands on another good chunk of elk again he would be in seventh heaven. (Where have all the hunters gone? Long time passing)
He had an old smoke-house for years (the gutted metal-lined fridge type) until he upgraded to a more modern version which he says doesn't do the same job. Still tastes great to the rest of the family though.
Store bought jerky is outrageously expensive and doesn't taste nearly as good.


All this talk of kitchen gadgets and appliances makes me look forward to fall and cooking indoors when it's not so dang hot outside.

And thanks to wayward I'll have to hunt down a Vadalia food chopper. ha!


I think I'll spend Labor Day making up self-fulfilling lies. Don't laugh the article says it works.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Her fans may be absolutely amazed by her, but I am absolutely blown away by her constant self-servings RT's about her fabulousness. Who does this? Really, who does this?

Dwindle said...

SG and butterfly: I love my crockpots too! I have 6 of them. Sorry Auntie, but I do. And they are all just plain old crockpots, none of this temperature and time programming stuff. They are all different sizes from 1.5qts to 8 qts. Some are deep round, some are oval etc.

I use a crock pot at least twice a week. :)


Like Auntie, I am chomping at the bit to start my fall cooking and baking, but it is 95 degrees here today! grrr!

AuntieAnn said...

Jon made a very tasty looking Korean dinner while she taunted him and dithered about 'her kitchen.'
====

Didn't she at one point go to bed and play around on her laptop while he cooked? Can you imagine her outrage if Jon had done that?

Dwindle - 6 crockpots! I AM jellus.

emschick1128 said...

Earth to Kate: We know that you have 8, yes 8 kids since you feel the need to remind us a least once per day. You have emergency cards to fill out(by hand)x8, homework to help with(with an assistant)x8, you have ears everywhere since you are a mother of 8 as you told us once again this morning It has gotten so old and sounds so absurd. My parents had 9, yes 9 kids and never did it even come up unless someone were to ask. Her life seems to revolve around taking pictures of food, lunch boxes and getting her ego stroked by strangers on Twitter. Yeah, we're all real "jellus" of Kate. Who wouldn't want 8 kids, a 10k month mortgage, 26 acres of land to manage, 3 luxury cars to insure, private school tuition x8 of course and all with no job. Sounds enviable to me

Parent In Lancaster County said...

A few months ago, there was a bug debate regarding the Teach for America program.

-------------------

After a few rumspringas, I had to laugh at this one, causing a few slurps on the keyboard. I thought...why would anyone want to learn to be an insect? ;-) Just teasing, Heather!

"All through the recent slicer-gate I just chuckled to myself. Several years ago, I bought a mediocre meat slicer at the Good's Store beside Shady Maple. I think I was in a buffet-induced food coma"

----------------

Good's store!! Now there's a blast from the past! Did you buy any of those black-bumper shoes? I haven't been in that one in ages, but I have wandered into the one in Quarryville when I was looking for a sleeping bag in an emergency. I noticed that over the years they've become much more "diversified" in their selections, and no longer offer just black cotton stockings! Still, that store is a real hoot.

«Oldest ‹Older   401 – 600 of 1339   Newer› Newest»