Juanita faithfully cleaned houses to make ends meet during filming. |
Many advocacy groups for entertainers believe that reality stars, adults and children alike, should be treated as SAG members and paid fairly for their work (SAG regulations require that actors make a minimum of $4,800 per week). However some reality show productions do not pay, often because they cannot afford to.
Such was the case for filmmaker David Sutherland, the creator of The Farmer's Wife. His tight budget simply didn't allow him to give the Buschkoetters any payment for their three years of work. He even dipped into his retirement savings to fund the $1.3 million project. (Many donations from around the country however came in once the show aired.)
The result was a virtually untouched, brutally honest story of one family's struggle to make ends meet and save a marriage. The filmmaking was so intimate, the crew even once followed Juanita to a meeting with a particularly stubborn creditor as she negotiated their debt with him, successfully.
There were no "make-over" episodes or luxurious trips or other nonsense. Instead we watched a family fall down, hard, then pick themselves up, brush themselves off and figure out a way to make it on their own. If Sutherland had paid the family, it certainly would have helped them put food on the table. But would the story be as "pure"? Would we still be talking about this film fifteen years later? Probably not.
"It's tough watching it," Juanita was once quoted, "Only because it's really what life was like the last three years, really real."
Indeed, the "realest reality show" ever was not Jon and Kate. It was The Farmer's Wife.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 1016 Newer› Newest»Anger Issues, thank you. I know you understand the medication making you sleepy.
I haven't read Kate's CC blog and I won't waste my time to do so. It sounds like nothing new that we didn't already know, and just her bragging about the gadgets that they have. She really is pathetic.
However, to return to one of my usual themes about Kate reading here. We all made comments about her being able to take the kids to the beach, and now, magically, she can afford it and does it! Read here much, Kate?
We get a beach house on the beach at OBX (not even airconditioned)but we set up every morning..blankets, towels, coolers, boogie boards WTH
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There's no busy footprints in or around the blue tent. There is by the lawn chair. Maybe they're just testing the waters. I have no idea where they threw down their beach stuff and I sure as hell don't need to know. I'm just glad the kids got some privacy except for their idiot mother's twitterpics and this one by the gal on facebook.
I've tried the glycine for the past 4 nights and so far I am very happy. I sleep better and I wake up refreshed and I feel good throughout the day. It's great. I didn't get the powder - I got 1000 mg capsules - so I take 3 at night right when I go to bed. Then I read for 1/2 hour to an hour, then sleep. I still wake up in the middle of the night, but it's not as jarring and I don't stay awake as long. So far I can get up pretty easily too - and I've even made it into work early!
Anger Issues, I hit publish too soon. I hope that you are feeling better soon. If I'm not mistaken, we are both in the Chicago area and it would be a shame to miss going outdoors in the great wheather we are having lately. Love to you.
Geesh, I meant weather, not wheather. I'm going to stop wasting posts correcting myself because you know what I mean!
Lovemygrandsons: Thanks. I know what you mean. This nice cool weather and we have to be sick. Totally sucks.
Improbable Dreams said... 197
For those of you who've mentioned here how much you enjoy/admire The Pioneer Woman, her cookbook is on sale for Kindle (or download for your iPhone or iPad using kindle app) for $3.99! Normally $29.99.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Pioneer-Woman-Cooks-ebook/dp/B0073V8CUO/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1344897321&sr=1-1&keywords=the+pioneer+woman+cooks
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Thank you!!!!
Gooseberry Patch also offers abridged cookbooks for ereaders for FREE. Follow their blog or on FB and they will announce when and for how long. It is usually chapters of a full book, for example 20 different meatloaf recipes etc. But the booklet/chapters are FREE when they announce them!
Does it not make you want to laugh at Kate. For a person who claims to be so organized, she sure has a lot of paperwork. An organized person never talks of paperwork, neither does a person who does everything online(paying bills). Drama Queen Kate!
I made one of the Pioneer Woman's recipes that was on her show a couple weeks ago, chicken spaghetti. Oh my gosh, was that delicious!! As usual, I made too much (my hubby always teases me that I make enough in case a tour bus breaks down in front of our house!).
Anyhow, my hubby is okay with pasta dishes, but he doesn't love them, where as I do. I took the leftovers to work and treated my friends for lunch and they loved it! I gave them all the recipe at their request.
She has a lot of good recipes and they are things that I never would have thought of. If you like spaghetti and chicken, get this recipe from her website; you'll love it!
Shoot, who's bringing the paperwork to the party?
Admin, I just got a case of toilet paper, will that do?
@Kateplusmy8 Bob & Beth also paid for Gosselin8 1st year in private school
When did Kate stop talking to Beth? 2008? The six Gosselins started Junior Kindergarten in September of 2009. I highly doubt that Beth and
Bob shelled out for the Gosselin8's first year in private school if she wasn't even talking to them at that time. It's never been confirmed that Beth and Bob paid for any of the kids' tuition. 199
IMO, Beth and Bob were genuine friends and whatever they may have financed was out of friendship. To my mind, this is different and
separate from fleecing unsuspecting strangers.
Whatever became of Beth and Bob is their business and none of ours.
They went and have stayed private.
Over in Kate's County, if you read the comments folks were upset with Jon because they had that right. They knew him. These weren't strangers snarking about a reality tv show couple, and they didn't get personal until Jon himself showed up and tried to tell them the facts reported in the news story were not the facts. In the very same way Kate has tried to retract every interview she has given because she can't control the spin. So Jon may have friends today, as I am sure he does, but this gives us opportunity to see who he is, without filters and without friends covering up for him.
Thanks, Lancaster (66)... The physical closeness with my siblings IS one of my foundest chilhood memories. (That and a million silly little things we like to reminisce about at our family reunions...) The incredible thing, though, is that all those memories just... "happened"! Would you believe?! Yes, you read right; they were not "masterminded" by our parents! Who knew, huh?
I was watching Home By Novogratz on HTV and they went to Pioneer Woman's house! They decorated her daughters bedroom. She really is a pioneer woman her house was in out in the country. Anyway she was cooking something for the Novogratz and it looked really, really good! If her cookbook is as good as that food looked on her pan I'll buy the book! Yum,yum!!
I'll bring streamers to decorate and paper party hats to wear. Also, I'll bring paper plates, paper cups, paper towels, napkins and paper bags for those who have imbibed too much Rumspringa.
Is that enough paperwork?
OT and you'll all think I'm nuts, but my older grandson just called me to let me know he lost his first tooth!! Of course mommy and daddy have money that the tooth fairy is going to put under the pillow. However, I told him that the tooth fairy lets the grandparents know so we can give a special gift. Hallmark has cards for everything, and I'm going to send him a card with 2 dollars in it!!!!
So Jon may have friends today, as I am sure he does, but this gives us opportunity to see who he is, without filters and without friends covering up for him.
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The only issue for me is that Jon doesn't act like that anymore. He is far from perfect, but he has far more introspection than the other parent.
Kate acts exactly the same as she acted six years ago. Jon does not. I'd hate to be judged constantly for something I said six years ago. Few people are the same people they were six years ago, especially when you are young.
(This is Remona)
mama mia said... 15
''......... So Jon may have friends today, as I am sure he does, but this gives us opportunity to see who he is, without filters and without friends covering up for him.''
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I disagree with your comment, mama mia. What you saw was a glimpse at Jon THEN, not now. Jon has publicly apologized for the decisions he made then. Unlike Kate, Jon has matured, accepted the responsibility for his previous actions and made sure that his children were no longer exploited by their mother. He is liked by the people who know him. Many people have said that Jon is likable, including people that post on this blog. I trust those on this blog who speak highly of Jon.
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When people show you their true colors, believe them. Re: Jon.
The simple fact that he jumps from whore to whore to girlfriend to mother of how many kids??
Leopards don't change their spots.
I'm happy that the 'fake twitter' link worked. Don't know how accurate it is but it's interesting isn't it?
Oddly enough I have heard more from insiders about Jon than about Kate. Maybe because Kate isolates herself so much while Jon has a wider circle of friends and family.
I have never heard a bad thing about Jon. People always say he's nice, respectful, puts his kids first, is a good dad. No one says he's PERFECT, but they say he's generally a good guy. There are no dirty secrets insiders tell about him like they do Kate.
I can almost picture Jon at the computer in the closet answering the negative talk about the nurse for another year, and Kate sitting on the bed shouting "Oh! And don't forget to tell them.....and you didn't say...... you idiot, tell them how UNFAIR it is to have something promised and then retracted. Tell them how HARD it is, Jon. We want Angela here with us another year and you're not helping. Sound mad, Jon! They want us to take care of our own children! How RUDE!"
The whole thing sounds Kate-inspired and not so
much Jon. If he didn't comply, he'd pay a very large price, I'm afraid.
Kate said on her CC blog:
"I firmly believe in using our imaginations to create “old-fashioned” fun as opposed to using a television or gaming equipment to “babysit” my kids."
One of the comments there:
"Didn't Kate have a TV in the toddlers bedroom so they could watch during their insanely long naptime?"
Also, didn't they show on one episode of J&K+8, how the kids loved to watch themselves on TV? Kate's tweeted many times about watching old episodes, the Roma Downey videos, and movies.
Don't tell me those kids only watch DVD's or play electronic games when they're travelling.
Kate's new paperwork should be a chart on what she has said in the past, so she can refer to it before she opens her mouth to spew another lie.
Kate is a twit said... 25
Kate said on her CC blog:
"I firmly believe in using our imaginations to create “old-fashioned” fun as opposed to using a television or gaming equipment to “babysit” my kids."
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She firmly believed that for the 5 minutes it took her to write her blog piece.
Jilly, when did Jon date a whore? I thought he dated a nanny, a schoolteacher and a doctor's daughter. He's had two serious relationships in two years. I'll never understand why this gets him labeled unstable etc. If that's the case I guess I'm a floozie since I once had a whopping two serious relationships in two years and in between dated a handful before finding anything serious. Dating is how you find the serious relationships, I thought. The second of those two stuck for good. I fail to see how Jon is doing anything different than any other person I've ever known who has dated, either with kids or without, divorced or not.
As far as the other woman having kids, the children need a stepmother who is good with kids. I'm told they like his girlfriend, and liked Ellen too. We have photos and video proving how well they got along with Ellen. It seems to me it would be imperative, especially with eight kids, to be certain the woman you are with is good with children. Kate wants to date too the only difference is Jon has actually found a date. I think each of them should date if they want to. IF the don't want to, fine, too.
By the way I recently played the piano for a beautiful wedding, her first marriage, his second. He has three teenager kids. They did this absolutely tear-jerking ceremony in the wedding where each of the boys poured a vile of sand into a pretty vase and then their dad and new stepmom poured some sand in. Symbolic of the five of them becoming one. It was such a sweet gesture, even the middle boy was getting choked up. Many people are able to find good second marriages and it's not necessarily bad for your kids.
"I firmly believe in using our imaginations to create “old-fashioned” fun as opposed to using a television or gaming equipment to “babysit” my kids."
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She firmly believed that for the 5 minutes it took her to write her blog piece.
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I was going to say the translation of this is really, I firmly believe in telling kids to just go make something up in their heads so I don't have to bother to entertain them. George Lopez has a hysterical bit about parents who do that.
fidosmommy said... 26
Well, she does firmly believe in using HER imagination, doesn't she. She imagines all these great things that are in store for her.
Kate is a twit, also, for someone who firmly believes TV shouldn't babysit the kids she sure tweets a lot about TV. She watches the shows that go two hours too more than one day a week.
At one point I believe she said she was watching American Idol, The Voice, Dancing With the Stars, Dexter....what am I missing? That alone is quite a few hours a week. Not to mention all the movie nights which seem to happen at least twice a week. Plus all the episodes of their show she claims they watch all the time.
Watch TV, be a couch potato, I don't freaking care. But to pretend you don't park you and your family in front of the TV all the time is ludicrous, her own tweets suggest otherwise.
Oh also wasn't their an episode where the kids were watching cartoons on TV before breakfast? Heck that TV is on blaring away even before they've eaten their first meal of the day.
Which leads me to another point. How many people on a budget can afford Showtime to watch shows like Dexter? Come off it Kate. You're a millionaire. Now go do your paperwork, poor thing.
"I have never heard a bad thing about Jon. People always say he's nice, respectful, puts his kids first, is a good dad. No one says he's PERFECT, but they say he's generally a good guy. There are no dirty secrets insiders tell about him like they do Kate."
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Amen.
"The whole thing sounds Kate-inspired and not so
much Jon. If he didn't comply, he'd pay a very large price, I'm afraid."
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Double amen. She ruled the roost.
Also, considering that the kids have hardly done any travelling in the last year-just where else would they watch those DVD's and TV shows she tweets about?
Wasn't that weird and controlling how Jon had a computer in the closet among hanging clothes and Kate had one just outside the door, which was left open so she could watch him in the mirror?
I went over to Kate's twitter feed on twazzup earlier and had to laugh. The "haters" were talking about gardening, recipes, and their kids' wisdom teeth experiences. So very OT just like here. Guess they're bored with Kate, too!
I can't stand her holier than thou parenting when we know she's full of it and have proof.
I don't care if you stick your kids in front of the TV, lots of parents end up doing this. Okay so it's kind of pathetic if all you have to do is write a crappy blog post or two twice a week as your JOB, but TV watching is not the worst thing you can do as a parent. But the condescending "using the TV to babysit your kids" and pretending she would never dream of doing such a thing? And Kate doesn't want HER parenting judged? That sounds like a pretty darn judgmental statement right there. And hypocritical too. We know she does the same thing. She's tweeted as such. Maybe with 10,000 tweets she can't remember what she said.
Let's not forget the Roma Downey toddler videos
the kids watched "over and over".
How do you watch DVDs over and over when you would never dream to use your TV as a babysitter? Confused!
Well, watch her tweet tomorrow that the kids created a hospital downstairs and have been happily playing ER all day...or something...Damage control! Oh, wait, she hasn't twittered (tweeted?) about her CC blog yet, has she? So, maybe the next day the kids will be busy with the ER. =)
Wait didn't she also say they watch Sesame Street and she would love to be on that? Am I remembering this right?
There was some other baby show they allegedly watched where we were all like....huh??? I think it was Sesame Street.
Last tweet about 'cheers of joy' when the kids found out which siblings were in the same class. I doubt it. It's probably 'oh, okay,' or 'I wish it was so-and so...' Kate always has them shrieking, giggling, chortling, clapping. Always SO happy. She makes them sound silly...'cheers of joy?' Give me a break.
Kate is a twit, also, for someone who firmly believes TV shouldn't babysit the kids she sure tweets a lot about TV. She watches the shows that go two hours too more than one day a week.
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I'm surprised she didn't suggest building an inground POOL to save money. That way,parents wouldn't plop their kids down in front of the television or with their video games, thus saving money on electronics!
Mama Mia Said: Kate, you moron, you really have no freaking clue. You are like a snorting pig rooting through clickable coupons all churlishly giddy about having saved yourself $1 off the toilet paper while telling your sheeple minions they should just put their wallets away and quit being consumers, yes, buy nothing, move your crap around your houses and pretend you have just redecorated, make your kids share the tube socks a sweatshop full of 8 year olds in China made so you can save money. A buck saved here and another mom and pop business bankrupted there is fun, fun, fun!! Yes, lets all get online and demand free stuff, or order shitloads of crap just because we have a coupon and then send it all back pouting because there wasn't free shipping. Then you can run on down to whatever stores are left and bankrupt them with your retarded price checking ap that lets you use the store you are in to check how much you saved not giving them your business. Way to go, Kate! Everyone needs a hand up from your manicured claw.
Yes, Kate, tell your fans to make do with their 28 video games, for now, cause all those savings from not shopping today can be splurged on more shit later. Oh wait, you are not getting huge endorsements to promote stuff? Gee, Kate, I wonder why? You have made a career out of stiffing everyone from the babysitters you don't pay, the waiters you don't tip, the hard working small businesses you keep begging free shit from and the sheeple fans who thought you were sincere when you said you were struggling to put food on the table. No, Kate, you are not being deceptive, they are just stupid for not understanding hungry to you means 'Nobu, Nobu, I want Nobu'.
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Very well said, perfectly articulated and you've summed up in paragraphs what most of us have been saying for years. Hat's off to you for that great posting. Your post could be an Op Ed article in any major magazine.
Whore = Lohan's pregnant gf
Can't think of her name. Kate Major?
I have strong opinions, BTW, don't mean to rile anyone or 'shit stir'. :)
Admin, I agree with you 100%. Kate has said on twitter NUMEROUS times that the kids are watching the old episodes of their life, excuse me, of their show. She has even said how she "cries" through some of them. Now all of sudden, she states don't let your kids sit in front of the TV all the time? That's all she lets them do, according to her own tweets!!!
Jillybean said... 45
Whore = Lohan's pregnant gf
Can't think of her name. Kate Major?
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Jon dodged a bullet there. Who on earth would get herself knocked up by the likes of Michael Lohan?
I just looked at the photo of the children sitting on the floor, eating waffle ice cream cones and wearing the Lorax tee shirt. I don't see any child with braces. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Is it possible that this photo was NOT taken on Sunday?
And don't forget all of the Food Network shows she tweeted about when she thought she was going to be the next Julia Child. Bone Appetite! Haha
Ah yes forgot about Chopped, she said they watch that too.
If I put all the shows on a schedule she's watching at least 2 hours of TV a night not to mention the movies.
I don't care, some of my best memories are cuddling up with my mom and watching a favorite show, but the arrogant TV as the babysitter, come off it Kate.
If you only watch TV in the car why pay so much for cable anyway? Save the children's money. Cable is outrageous these days. She's full of it, of course they watch a shitload of TV.
admin said..."Maybe with 10,000 tweets she can't remember what she said."
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Forget the 10,000 tweets. She can't remember from one day to the next what she's said.
The thing with Kate is that she lives in some sort of parallel universe where everything about her is documented for all posterity, yet she'll still create her own narrative.
Boobs? No! Yet there she is, pretty flat chested for several seasons on TV. How can you deny it (when you're sane)?
We've seen lots of TV watching as well as video game playing.
As she wrote that blog she had the kids lined up on a blanket eating ice cream cones and watching The Lorax on TV. You tweeted the picture Kate...think before you blog or remember your blogs and tweet a picture of the kids doing something other than watching a movie on TV. Didn't she also tweet about the 3D TV. Yeah, they really do use their iminagations to create old fashioned fun!
Admin, she can't give up cable. Without it how would she flip on TLC 100 times a day just in case they're airing a rerun. KIDS!! KIDS!! Our show is on.
The Queen of Exaggeration is back - tweeting about the great whoops of joy as she, the bearer of all things good and wonderful in the land, read the kids their class assignments for the coming school year. Such excitement around the dinner table as they found out which sibs would be in their classes. And on and on and on . . . Two minutes maybe? What a tool.
Most kids are most concerned about which of their friends are in their classes. But it's sweet I guess if they really want to be with their sibs too. Still think normal kids woud be on the phone wanting to know what class little Johnny and Suzie are in.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 39
How do you watch DVDs over and over when you would never dream to use your TV as a babysitter? Confused!
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No confusion on your part, only Kate's. She is the Queen of Contradition. Always was. Can't keep her stories straight from one minute to the next.
Back in the old pre-Internet days, we would ride our bikes to school to see the class list posted on the school door in late August. Our only concern was which friends were in our class. Oh, and a little concern that we didn't get the "mean" teacher.
Sorry for all of the posts tonight. I should be working on a project, but am using this to procrastinate. Piles and piles of paperwork you know.
The thing with Kate is that she lives in some sort of parallel universe where everything about her is documented for all posterity, yet she'll still create her own narrative.
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That's what's so crazy about this. She says all this crap that she does and normally no one would think anything of it, but because of the show, twitter and her own big fat mouth, we know so much about how she REALLY lives, we therefore know most of the utopia of how she wants us to THINK she lives is utter crap. Does she think we didn't pay attention? I have a photographic memory, I remember crap like what TV shows she says she watches. This memory of mine comes in handy for things like fights (I never said that...YES YOU DID I REMEMBER) and for when Kate lies.
Even when she claims the kids are shrieking with joy over various crap, we know the kids are just sort of generally normal and calm as they've gotten older. And no more particularly attached to their siblings than anyone else.
I remember so vividly in third grade, we got our class assignments the last day of the school year. And as we walked out of class for lunch or something I saw my best friend in her class across the hall and we both shouted Mrs. Berger!!! It was the best moment ever, we were thrilled. I paid little attention to siblings at that age, although I suppose it's different with multiples. Not that much though.
So with 8 kids *ALL* of them are giddy with joy over their PERFECT room assignment? Nobody got stiffed and they are all 110% perfectly perfect with who is in each classroom?
Yeah. Sure kHate.
The perfect mom, with the perfect life, raising perfect kids who apparently also have perfect luck.
Flowers and rainbows for everyone!
SeeSaw, oh my gosh, you brought back memories that I had long forgotten. Yes, riding our bikes to the school to see what class we were in and if our friends were in the same class.
Thanks for reminding me of good memories with my childhood friends.
Flowers and rainbows for everyone!
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Fade2Black has the paperwork covered but who is volunteering to fart the flowers and rainbows???
I think Jon is a nice person compared to Kate , but I think the jury is still out on what he truly is all about! I don't think it needs to be debatable at this point! Time will tell!
Time has proven that Kate is rich, rich,rich! Apparently kids are going to be in the same expensive school,house not for sale and Kate has no job! Well, except for CC.
Hey Sport, are you watching the Raiders or are you a Niners fan??
LoveMyGrandsons - yes, so much better than the G8 whose memory will be of their Mom smacking a ruler on the table to get their attention while she reads aloud a list of next year's class assignments.
Yuck. Those poor kids. I think our "mediocre" bike-riding memories are much happier.
fidosmommy said... 24
"I can almost picture Jon at the computer in the closet answering the negative talk about the nurse for another year, and Kate sitting on the bed shouting "Oh! And don't forget to tell them.....and you didn't say...... you idiot, tell them how UNFAIR it is to have something promised and then retracted. Tell them how HARD it is, Jon. We want Angela here with us another year and you're not helping. Sound mad, Jon! They want us to take care of our own children! How RUDE!"
The whole thing sounds Kate-inspired and not so
much Jon. If he didn't comply, he'd pay a very large price, I'm afraid."
This is what I've always thought!! She harped at him constantly on the show, why on earth wouldn't she had done it off the show?
UH Huh. Just what the kids want. More time with their siblings. Like they're not all stuck together 24/7 anyway when they're not in school.
Maybe they were shouting with joy that they were NOT in a class with that icky boy or that sissy girl.
I don't think it needs to be debatable at this point!
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Gah. Please don't dictate what we discuss here.
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I've never believed Jon "dated" Kate Major. He vehemently denied it and said they only had a business relationship. He always owned his other relationships. She had a history of "falling" for guys she was supposed to be writing about. I've always believed the relationship was in her mind only.
I'm getting excited for our rumspringa party on Wednesday. Another thing for us to honor -- it would have been my mother's 92nd birthday. I'm still planning to bring drippy ice cream cones, but I'm going to need help getting them inside. I can't run down the road in 5" hooker heels, the girls flopping everywhere, screaming at the top of my lungs, the way KK can. I'd also hoped to bring some eggs with me, but I can't find any without yolks.
Re Kindle and cook books -- Amazon is running one of their "Big Deals" right now, with over 500 books priced at $.99 - $3.99. In addition to Pioneer Woman's cookbook, they have a number of others, including vegan and vegetarian. Some good mysteries and science fiction on the list, too.
Tomatoes - yep watching while I cook.
But I am a Niner Fan.
Funny you ask I just sent my nephews (OAK Fans) a message "This game is as painful to watch as a regular season Cowboys-Raiders game."
Boobs? No! Yet there she is, pretty flat chested for several seasons on TV. How can you deny it (when you're sane)?
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Pretty flat chested? Heck, in that video of her wearing a little wool vest in the dentist's office, she was inverted...not even two fried eggs.
Pretty flat chested? Heck, in that video of her wearing a little wool vest in the dentist's office, she was inverted...not even two fried eggs.
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I was trying to be gentle ;-) But ladies, we know that breasts sag with age and after pregnancy and we also know that they don't increase in size when you lose weight. Quite the opposite in fact.
Bra shma.
The boob job has been confirmed by multiple sources. Not that we really need a source on this one. Really....??
Let's Throw tomatoes said: I think Jon is a nice person compared to Kate , but I think the jury is still out on what he truly is all about! I don't think it needs to be debatable at this point! Time will tell!
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Personality wise, I agree. Jon's a very pleasant person or at least he comes off like that. Always has. Having read Al Walentis' book and looking forward to Robert Hoffmans corroboration, I think everyone will be surprised.
Compared to what we've seen on TV, interviews, magazine articles, newspaper reports, DWTS insiders speaking and Kate's illustrious twitter campaign, anyone would be seen as a nice person next to Kate.
We all came here and all the other past Gosselin blogs to speak out against the parents, reach out to those who agreed the kids needed protection and neither Jon nor Kate did anything to stop it or protect them.
Kate is still on turbo mode yet Jon went away quietly only to surface on Tabloid TV with yet again another girlfriend, someone he professed his undying attention for and his pre tween daughters had to see that like the rest of us did.
IMO, Jon and Kate are still trying to ply their brand, I.E. good cop, bad cop. Jon's still playing the media when it suits him, Kate's been playing it the entire time. If you read the Wanentis book, you'll see the pattern and nothing has changed other than the year, the time line and the birthdays.
I trust neither Jon nor Kate. Jons the affable dunce and Kate's the driving force behind the brand they created, want to keep active and neither one will let it go, Kids be damned.
Tucker's Mom said... 72
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Oh hell, she owns the "good "miracle" bra. Kind of like a chia pet. Those things expanded at least twice.
My kids always got their class assignments at Back To School night along with all their friends. One of my daughters had quintuplets in her class; none of them were really all that interested in which sibling was in their room but they sure wanted to find out which of their friends were. Maybe if they were home when then got the news it would have been different, but I don't see it. They obviously cared for their siblings but they were always encouraged in their own individual talents and interests and each of them had a nice circle of their own friends.
SeeSaw, oh my gosh, you brought back memories that I had long forgotten. Yes, riding our bikes to the school to see what class we were in and if our friends were in the same class.
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I grew up in a very small town, so there were no class lists. There was one class for each grade. If you were going into third grade, you went to the third grade classroom. All of your friends from previous years were in your class. When you got to junior high school (7th grade) the only thing you knew about ahead of time was the homeroom assignment. This was published in the local newspaper...those with last names beginning with the letters from A to N, Mr. Harper's homeroom; those with last names from O to Z, Mrs. Harper's homeroom. Simple times.
Oh hell, she owns the "good "miracle" bra. Kind of like a chia pet.
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Or her "Grow a Boyfriend." Grows to 6 times its size!!!
Kate makes me sick the way she so blatantly excepts gifts from strangers especially teenagers. She really has no shame at all
If nobody minds me giving an observation. I couldn't help but notice.
Kate, or as you claim you don't think it's good to let kids be babysat by a television set which I suppose is true to a point these days.
I have to ask though, while you (even with evidence to the contrary) your kids don't watch much television...but you spent pretty much or most of your day with your face glued to your phone...on Twitter from the time you get up to the time you go to sleep.
And, with no experience of having been a parent yet, I do happen to have experience of, if you as a parent tell your kid, "I don't want you watching television all day," exactly how are you going to defend yourself when your kids should ask you, "Why can't we watch television? You spend all day with your phone."
Kids learn I think mostly through observing you as a parent, what you do they pick up on it. Her kids are going to pick up on the concept, "Okay, so she says not to do X, but there she is doing Y...so there for X must be okay for us to do if she's able to do Y." Or something similar to that concept.
If she says she lives by example for her kids...than what the heck is she doing by being on Twitter all day? Neither one is healthy but, what the heck, go figure.
Now I also know that some parents work from home, but unlike her, with her simple blog post for once or twice a week (and her "alleged" paperwork) most parents devote a given set of hours to their online business, working-in-office from home, skype, email or whatever say a regular hour when the kids are at school or a weekend hour of maybe 9-1pm or something. The point is they aren't zoned out all day with working and staring at a screen.
My final observation...Kate, if you're so busy, being a single mom, working from home, doing your laundry room, cooking...answer the question of how you still manage to have time to spend it glued to your electronic device? But you say it's wrong to let your kids zone out all day? What's the difference? I mean it's not exactly like you're all that important. You aren't running a company or anything.
For someone who leads by example you sure do a poor job of it.
And, if your kids are always this gleeful, always this excited about whatever my suggestion is: you might want to cut back on the sugar you give your kids. You know your ALL-organic Juicy-Juicy and all the energy bars you share with your kids? Your kids shouldn't need or be eating energy bars at their at their age. You know, your fruit snacks and all that junk? Yeah, that too might help.
Best of all for your kids if you allowed them separate interests maybe people wouldn't think them weird for being excited to see which sibling is in which class over individual friends.
Just a few thoughts though, Kate. But you, the all-time mother of mother's who wants to compete in the Mommy Olympics should, I assume, already know this, as you know compared to myself who has no kids.
If I could weigh in on the upcoming party, I'd love to contribute. I'm not challenging anyone to meet, match or beat the contribution but since it's all in fun, I'm open to suggestions.
I can hardly believe that after the cameras were shut off at Dr. Mr. Tummy Tuck Man's office that Kate walked away saying I guess he's right I don't need a boob job.
Bullshit. She stood there and DEMANDED one. TLC obliged the witch. There was money to made with Jon and Kate back then and they were going to stand on their heads and rub her belly to keep her happy.
Why she'd deny having breast implants when it's plain as day she has them is beyond me. It's not like it's an unheard of procedure.
Marie, excellent points. Do as Mommy says, not as Mommy does.
But I don't believe for one second that Kate actually keeps electronics just for travel. I think she just couldn't think of one thing to write about on her blog and remembered her kids played games in the van all the way to and from Gulf Shores, Alabama. There is probaby a DVD player in there for movies, too. Instant blog material, whether a slice of her own reality or not.
I was googling looking for a specific tweet of Kate's and came across this site.
http://www.twylah.com/Kateplusmy8
It has different tweets Kate made about different categories. Want to see some tweets she made about "memories", or "bread" or other things? Check it out.
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@Kateplusmy8 That must be so comforting to have a familiar face in the class :-)
Good heavens above, how dumb are these sheeple? The tups have been in the same school for three years; the twins even longer. They know their classmates. These are not strangers.
Sheeple have absolutely no reasoning ability whatsoever, do they?
My opinion of the Gosselinbook is it will be flat as a flitter when it comes out -- if it comes out. All this waiting...waiting with no updates. I think it will be like Al Walentis's book where we were promised all these details from his sources and then all his sources suddenly backed out and we were reading a very tepid book about how bad Kate wasn't. He did however trash Jon. I seriously don't think it will happen.
By the way, here's her tweet about Sesame Street.
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@sesamestreet @JasonHueman Awww we LOVE @sesamestreet here... All 9 of the Gosselins grew up w you! XO Cute video!
Kelly 81, hope you show up. The more the merrier!
@auntiAnn If you go to Dlisted dot com and type in the "search" feature, the "many faces of Kate Gosselin", you'll see the transformation, from the dowdy face of Kate at the earliest stage to the newest face of Kate at the coupon blog she survives on.
I doubt that the good Lord could have transformed water into wine and pulled off the great wedding at Cana in such an expedient manner. New hair, new boobs, new teeth, new body, new lifestyle and yet she tweets squeeks of joy from her kids every single day.
I suspect Kate's going to take a new tact since it's been days away from a year that she's been cancelled.
When Kate can part the Susquehanna River, walk on top of it and tweet, "Set My Sheeple Free" I'll suspect she is the second coming. Until then, I think she had her chance and the Susquehanna River is still flowing, unparted, polluted and the only thing walking on it is a couple of McDonald's double cheeseburger wrappers.
Tweet-le, 78, Or her "Grow a Boyfriend." Grows to 6 times its size!!!
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Let's see. Her good bra grows in size. Her Grow a Boyfriend grows 6 times. Steve grows...???? Eight? Isn't that her favorite number?
fidosmommy - I think it's just plain hard work for Kate to come up with new lies every time she sits down to write her blog entry. If she was going to write about anything real this is what it would say:
" I spent the day in my room. The nanny takes care of everything. Can't wait til school starts again so I can get my ME time back. These kids are driving me up the wall. Check out Coupon Cabin for all your coupon needs".
Yeah this coupon cabin gig is really trying her brain power and she keeps coming up empty. Poor thing.
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Gah, please don't tell us not to have an opinion!!!
Sport, I have been a Raiders fan since the 70's through the good and the bad! But I also like the Niners, both teams are good for me!
Once A Viewer...
According to WCVB, Taylor bought a house. As far as not being able to stay at a Kennedy home, Ted Kennedy, in his will, left his house to be used for different groups for conferences or some such thing like that. He didn't leave it to his kids so I don't think they can use it anymore. Taylor's boyfriend is the son of Mary Kennedy, the one who tragically took her life this past spring. I'm sure his family has their own house on the compound. And you're right, I don't want to see Kate on the Cape.
Gosselin8 Come First...
Can you bring me the good, miracle bra because I can barely fill out an A cup. I need a grow some boobs and not a grow a boyfriend. Thank goodness my husband is an ass/leg man and not a boob man. But on the bright side, the boobs are still up where they should be.
As far as bringing paper goods, I'll be bringing the Depends because you funny ladies will have me peeing my pants from laughing so much and I don't want to have to keep changing the undergarments.
Ha ha-Kate tweeted about her CC blog. Her tweet could be taken 2 ways.
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Using electronic toys for travel only increases creativity and helps me save $!
1. Use electronic toys only when you travel-let the kids use there creativity at other times and thereby save money.
Which of course is what she meant.
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2. Use electronic toys when you travel-it increases creativity and saves money.
Which is definitely what she didn't mean.
She really should have just said-
"Limiting use of electronic toys increases creativity and saves money."
However, she just had to point out the travelling, didn't she?
I'm Audi 5000 gang. Just remember, Kate's tweets are like watching the Dow Jones Industrials. Her stories change from 9am till 4pm and you can't keep track until the closing bell and all the truthers come out to analyze them. In the end, thankfully, we didn't invest in her. Enjoy the evening. Good night.
Kelly - I don't have anything against breast implants, facelifts, tummy tucks... any type of cosmetic surgery. People are allowed to do what they want with their bodies as far as I'm concerned. But Kate could put a bone through her nose and deny it was there. That is the problem I have with her. She's a liar.
Dwindle said... 126
The blue lights are the worst.
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And my CPAP machine has a strong, bright blue light. Go figure.
@Kateplusmy8
Loud cheers of joy as I read my kids class assignments at dinner..Hugs&jumping up&down as they realized who of their sibs r in their class!
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I think this is what went down:
Kate: "Ok, kids, over here now! Listen up, I have a tweet to produce!! Clap, clap, find your marks! I'm going to make an announcement and then you all jump up and down for joy and screech with excitement. First let me adjust the lighting. One of you big girls grab that boom you made so you can stick it in the littles’ faces. Let’s try and get this in one take."
AuntieAnn I have nothing against body enhancements either. If it wasn't for shaving cream, I'd look like Kate's reverse mullet. I only hope if Kate puts a bone through her nose, it wasn't grifted and Shoka isn't missing his bone.
AuntieAnne I have a problem with the lying but I also have a problem if she spent the children's money on pimping herself. That proves this all was NOT for your kids it was for YOU to make yourself a boobie star.
I am told she paid for the boob job it wasn't grifted.
I think the problem Kate is running into is she is running out of blog fodder. She doesn't spend enough time with the children for blog fodder opportunities to happen. You can tell the big mommy bloggers who truly spend a lot of time with their kids because they always are full of funny stories about various things. Kate really doesn't have many of those types of things. She isn't amassing much blog fodder because she's too busy twittering or doing whatever and leaving them with nannies, or they are with Jon or in school so much. I predict her blogs will get less and less meaty as the idea well runs dry.
Yes, you're right Admin. Any money she has spent for all the enhancements, trips, clothes, etc was only because she pimped her kids. Otherwise she'd still be a mediocre mom working her shifts at the clinic or hospital, which is the way it should have been in the first place...but it wasn't the plan she had in mind. Everything she has, has been at her kids' expense. But her lying about it all makes it all the more disgusting.
Admin-Exactly. What's left for her to blog about? How to organize paperwork? That's about the only thing she hasn't covered.
ADMIN, You hit the nail on the head. There's nothing exciting about a day to day tweet, blog or update on the day to day life of a parent. It's actually boring. It's what parents do. Kids are kids and although they excite parents with achievements, all parents experience them. It's called parenting.
Kate's shrieks of joy with kids getting classroom assignments, freebies in the mail, pics of kids sitting in a straight line on the floor, 2 feet from a CRT watching yet another Gosselin Family Feature while posed with a death grip on an ice cream cone isn't normal.
Kids are like pack animals. They cuddle, they huddle and they want to be comfortable no matter what the situation. Kate tweets pics of kids sitting in line like Roll Call at boot camp, smiling, holding proof of treats and not allowed to be comfotable no matter what the Gosselin Movie Night played.
Kate's tweets and pics are so out to lunch it proves she reads the blogs and tweets and goes out of her way to deflect all comments.
Kelly said...
Just remember, Kate's tweets are like watching the Dow Jones Industrials. Her stories change from 9am till 4pm and you can't keep track until the closing bell and all the truthers come out to analyze them. In the end, thankfully, we didn't invest in her.
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Funniest thing I have read all day here!
Be careful everyone, last night I had a dream about KK. She had on this thick, thick make-up which was coming off in chunks and showing her skin underneath. Somehow I was traveling with her and one of the twins. She was taking anonymous twin to an audition at a TV station. When we got there KK dressed up in drag - so no one would know who she was. Worst part was the whole time I was with her I was screaming obscenities at her. Most vividly I recall the c-word.
Beware, you insomniacs et al.!
OY! That last comment was from me (Bearswife). Please forgive any typos as well. I might be able to join you tomorrow for a bit - I will bring the paper plates and the pizza cutter (to cut up the pancakes).
What's left for her to blog about? How to organize paperwork? That's about the only thing she hasn't covered.
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Maybe how to grift a free vacation home from a sheeple? lol, now that one I could use!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 101
I think the problem Kate is running into is she is running out of blog fodder. She doesn't spend enough time with the children for blog fodder opportunities to happen. You can tell the big mommy bloggers who truly spend a lot of time with their kids because they always are full of funny stories about various things. Kate really doesn't have many of those types of things. She isn't amassing much blog fodder because she's too busy twittering or doing whatever and leaving them with nannies, or they are with Jon or in school so much. I predict her blogs will get less and less meaty as the idea well runs dry.
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Yes, good blogs just sound like they flow with
stories to tell and lead us toward some reflection. They are easy to read and you kind of get pulled into this person's thoughts for a moment. They have a point. A point that often leads to discussion.
Kate's blog pieces read like a desperate how-to book. No prep, no thought, just slap words on a page. Doesn't have to say much, just get it done. Who cares? It's done.
They are as contrived and juvenile as a 1st grader's attempts at rhyming poetry, IMO.
Actually, I would like her to blog about how to "budget" to go on beach vacation located 1100 miles from home, and how to save on driving there, and staying there.
I really wonder how she would spin that one.
I'll save my next comment for twitter. A give back party in celebration of a year without "Kate Plus My 8 Wallets" would be worthy.
Is the Kelly @99 posting here the same one on twitter who has trashed the administrator here (and this blog) with some really ugly comments? I don't read there much because there's too much drama and hate, but I do remember that, as well as his/her very nasty bashing tirades of Jon (and sheeple tweeters).
If it's a different Kelly, I apologize.
Hate to keep going back to the pioneer woman but in my opinion it's an example of a "perfect" mommy blog. Her blog fodder is interesting, but not unbelievable. It's funny, but not forced. She takes in a lot of life experiences and then writes about them with wit and charm. You can tell she really is living a full life with her kids. I know folks will say she has nannies and whatnot, whatever, she still spends time with her kids enough to get some good stories out of it.
Here's HER post about running. It's real. It's about how her husband has to be the drill sergeant and get her out there. She talks about certain parts jiggling lol. It's not some romantic ridiculous post about how practically perfect her exercise routine is. She is a real woman, a writer, relatable, and could blog circles around Kate.
http://thepioneerwoman.com/blog/2012/08/eveningtime-workout/
Actually, I would like her to blog about how to "budget" to go on beach vacation located 1100 miles from home, and how to save on driving there, and staying there.
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Ha, yes, exactly!
The only reason they went there was because she didn't HAVE to budget.
She never would have gone there otherwise. And she just said THE BEACH because she was embarrassed that it was Alabama and not, you know, Kiawah or BHI or the Hamptons. If it was one of those types of places she would have set up a giant blinking road sign with an arrow pointing to her spot on the sand. (Clearly, the people in the area couldn't have cared less that she was there, which she probably didn't expect).
Alabama beaches are awesome and just as wonderful. Hmmm, maybe we should ask HER "lesson learned?", lol
Oh well, You all called it the other day. I can't take credit for it but I laughed when I saw the comments. Kate was tired, doing laundry, exhausted, doing the loving Mommy thing. My Kindle is locked and loaded for Robert Hoffmans tell all.
Although we've all shared and read the stories about Jon and Kate on the blogs, the Walentis book was just a tad bit more eye opening. Many chapters less than Robert Hoffman claims to have but none the less, will be interesting to see what Hoffman has to say.
My credit card is locked and loaded and ready to purchase the "Gosselin Book" on Kindle or whatever media he chooses. I suspect there will be no new revelations but I'm certain whatever tidbits he shares will cement the rational discussions from those of us who have been calling Kate out on her B.S.
Good night gang.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 12
Shoot, who's bringing the paperwork to the party?
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I will bring the confidentiality agreements.
Dmasy, I just applied online today for Medicare. I turned 65 last March and have heard just recently that I could, indeed get Medicare at 65.
I am a nurse, I work full time and have medical coverage. My ex husband kept telling me to apply before 65. Don't know why I ignored all the info, guess I felt it would mean that it's time to hang up the ole nursing cap. Not near ready to retire.
If you would like to exchange facts you can find me on twitter or facebook. Connee Molay @grandee4. Best of luck.
So Hot In Florida said: Is the Kelly @99 posting here the same one on twitter who has trashed the administrator here (and this blog) with some really ugly comments? I don't read there much because there's too much drama and hate, but I do remember that, as well as his/her very nasty bashing tirades of Jon (and sheeple tweeters).
Same Kelly. We agree to disagree. Get over it. Discussion is part of life. Disagreement is part of discussion. Now let's talk about something that deserves discussion.
(Remona)
Kelly aka Underwalt said... 117
''......Same Kelly. We agree to disagree. Get over it. Discussion is part of life. Disagreement is part of discussion. Now let's talk about something that deserves discussion.''
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I don't know. In your opinion, this may not be something that ''deserves discussion, but I just feel like saying that you're not the boss of me!!
Remona
Kelly Walt said -- "We agree to disagree. Get over it."
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Did I miss something? What are you agreeing to disagree about? Hating on Twitter sheep?
"Now let's talk about something that deserves discussion."
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Hold on, general. Is that an order?
For the party: paper plates and napkins are acceptable. Paper cups are not allowed, as you're hostess will provide plenty of Red Solo Cups for the inspections,.and that really good sangria from Costco.
I have been organizing the playlist all day, we will stay the festivities singing Red Solo Cup!
”Red Solo Cup, I fill you up. Let's have a party! Let's have a party! I love you Red Solo Cup. I lift you up. Proceed to party! Proceed to party!”
Thanks to Toby Keith!
Jillybean, I agree with you about Jon.
He has 8 kids who desperately need his attention but he can't be alone for 5 minutes. The kids don't need a stepmom. They need THEIR FATHER.
Jon *had an affair* with the schoolteacher, because he was still married when he "dated" her. He then dated Hailey Glassman. Then there was some rich girl. And Kate Major. And Ellen. And the newest one, Liz I think? That's 6 off the top of my head. In three years.
I've been single 8 years and haven't had even one boyfriend. Why? Because I have 4 children to raise! I don't need to divide my time up even further by adding another man and possibly more children to my life. My kids come first.
Someone pointed out how much the Gosselin kids liked Ellen...well, she was just one more person brought into and kicked out of their lives. There are very few people who are consistently part of these kids' lives and it's irresponsible of Jon to drag more people in and out. (I also think it's irresponsible of Kate to do it, too, with all of her BFFs of the month.)
He only WHORE that Jon dated was Kate Kreider.
Bubbles @121:
He has 8 kids who desperately need his attention but he can't be alone for 5 minutes. The kids don't need a stepmom. They need THEIR FATHER.
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They can't have both? I didn't know that it was mutually exclusive.
Admin,
Did your sources say if Kate had two boob jobs? It sure looked like at first she was about an A cup and then went to about a C, then voila! she was a DD.
BitterAnnK said... 122
He only WHORE that Jon dated was Kate Kreider.
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Now Kate maybe lots of things but I don't think she that.
Someone pointed out how much the Gosselin kids liked Ellen...well, she was just one more person brought into and kicked out of their lives. There are very few people who are consistently part of these kids' lives and it's irresponsible of Jon to drag more people in and out. (I also think it's irresponsible of Kate to do it, too, with all of her BFFs of the month.)
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I pointed that out. How do we know Jon and Ellen didn't remain friends and she still sees the kids? We don't.
I also think it's overstated that it's hard to have people in and out of your life for kids. Heck kids get attached to all kinds of people and then they are gone. A teacher takes a job in a different district, a pastor moves to another church, a favorite aunt moves across town, a best friend moves to the next state. This is a part of life. Ideally it would be nice to keep the same exact people around your kids all the time for 18 years, but that's not the reality for anyone. Perhaps it's not the worst thing in the world for children to understand that such things are a part of life. Because if they don't learn it now they will have to eventually.
Break ups happen when you are dating. The other alternative is to exclude the children from your relationships, which can be even worse on them psychologically.
I don't know how autocorrect changed rumspringas to inspected! Stupid smart phone!
I think not dating anyone is the right choice for some single parents and I think dating is the right choice for other parents. I think both have their benefits and drawbacks.
Jon seems to be the type that just isn't as happy unless he is in a relationship. This is very normal for some people, not normal for others. I'm more of a person who is just as happy single as in a relationship, so it's hard for me to understand personally, but I know many people who can't function single. It is their reality. I don't think it serves the best interest of children if you're miserable. I also think he should get a chance at a REAL relationship and that the kids would do well to be part of a two parent family again. These children are incredibly young, and relatively speaking so is Jon. We're talking about a LONG time to ask a man to not be happy under the, in my opinion, mistaken belief that that's what the books say is best for kids.
JoyinVirginia said... 127
I don't know how autocorrect changed rumspringas to inspected! Stupid smart phone!
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Love the oxymoron! Have you seen the website Damn you autocorrect?
http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com/
Kate is a WHORE.
She sold her mind, body, life, privacy and soul to the devil (TLC).
She's still willing to perform for the right John. (customer)
She's also a pimp. Selling her children as if they were garage sale items.
"Take this one, only spanked once."
BTW, Jon never really "dated" Dianna. They had a mutual friend and were mourning a death together.
....In this case I actually think the kids DO need a stepmom. Or maybe need isn't the right word, but I think it COULD be a very good thing for them. Kate's cut of a lot of the female influences from their lives--Aunt Jodi, Beth. They have some media whore makeup artist and some other enabling BFF who doesn't even have custody of her own kids, and a few 20-something nannies. Not exactly ideal.
A close friend of mine is a child of divorce and her father isn't the worst but has a lot of issues, including addiction, and she once walked in on him having an affair. In her case, her stepfather coming into her life some two years later was the best thing that could happen to her. I've known her since she was a teen and I saw firsthand how much her stepdad cared about her. Her mother worked a lot and it got to the point where she and her brother would turn to HIM when they needed something, not even their own mom. I so remember when her little brother got into a car accident calling him first thing. He just knew he could count on him and he would know what to do.
She's a well adjusted young woman now happily newly married. Her father walked her down the aisle. And so did her stepdad, on the other side. I know the cliche is oh the stepmom or stepdad how sad.....but for some kids it's a great thing for them.
BTW, Jon never really "dated" Dianna. They had a mutual friend and were mourning a death together.
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Whoa. Exactly. How did you know this???
Then I'd have to reveal MY source.
Anybody who "knew" them was aware of all this. Common knowledge for the locals. Only the tabloids and 'blogs' went crazy over her. Not even Kate seemed to care.
As far as Jon's other GF's being "whores" -- I find that very offensive. Only one has been seen scantily clad on men's magazines. That doesn't make them ALL whores, Just Hailey.
BitterAnn understood. That is EXACTLY what has been explained to me regarding her. It's nice to have it corroborated is all.
What else can you corroborate? :)
Hailey wasn't a real relationship. It was a rebound. The two real relationships Jon has had seem pretty positive to me. If anything Jon was really on his best behavior when he was Ellen, that can't be a coincidence. For as young as she was she really seemed to have good guidance for him. And I've heard nice things about Liz.
BTW, Jon never really "dated" Dianna. They had a mutual friend and were mourning a death together.
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Who is Dianna?
BitterAnnK said... 130
Kate's a fame whore.
Deanna ... sorry. My sister's name is Dianna and she's been on my mind a lot lately.
I will say that Jon trusts too easily and has a problem seeing the "bad" in people. Whether that's a bad trait or not, I'm not sure. Trusting Lohan and Major was a BIG mistake. I believe had ANYTHING physical happened between Jon and Kate 2.0, Blowhan would have been selling the video. This is just my opinion.
Fans can't forget a few months of bad behavior but they are blind to all of Kate's years and years of bad behavior. Jon dates and they are "whores" and he's a bad dad. kate wants to make out with strange men on TV (that's what dating shows are, sheeple, deal with it) and have her feet licked at bars and she's still their role-model of wonderful motherhood.
Kate couldn't grow a boyfriend with all the compost on all the Amish farms in Pennsylvania.
Could you IMAGINE if Jon had shown a "blow up girlfriend?" Yep, they'd crucify him on their dead blogs but when Kate does it it's so cute and clever.
Double standards are alive and well in sheepleville. Always has been.
I will say that Jon trusts too easily and has a problem seeing the "bad" in people.
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That's true. No doubt about it. I'm with you, though, in that I don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing. His decisions have made him great tabloid fodder. Sheeple love to crucify him. He doesn't deserve it, especially from those who don't know him and have never seen him with his children. Jumping on the "slam Jon Bandwagon" seemed to be popular for awhile, and continues to be.
It's offensive to me as well to hear some call the women he dates "whores." But then again, I just consider the source.
There's sure alot of Jon defenders here.
And why? Because he apologized for his bad behaviour during his divorce? How about all the silly lies he tells like complaining he can't make decent & because he was a tv personality? Dude, that's all on you. You signed up for a reality show.
And how many times as he said he is going to give his final interview and yet continues to give more? That's a hypocrite in my eyes.
All the women he's been with? Dude, grow up you have a family to support. You're being pulled in 8 different directions already.
Stating Kate is a good mother? That defies any and all logic.
Coming out of nowhere to tell a tabloid magazine that he's afraid he's going to jail over failure of child support? Dude, shut it.
I've had enough of Jon. You may or may not agree.
Jillybean, pretty much agree, Jon has his faults. So do I. So does everyone. Shrug. I don't expect fathers, parents, or people to be perfect. Mediocre is good enough for me.
There's such a huge difference between just another flawed person, and a person given a thousand chances and still lives an entire life being mean, vile, hateful, narcissistic, greedy, nasty and so on. This is the difference between Jon and Kate. That is why we're hearing mostly talking about Kate, and not so much about Jon.
Jon is the lesser of two evils.
Some of the posters here know him personally. Do you?
Since when are tabloids FACTS? They can print whatever and put quotes around it. That doesn't mean Jon said it in public, it means they printed it. Big difference.
He has to defend himself because some people can't get over that he's moved on in relationships. YES, even I think he's a bit needy and it's sad that he seems to need a girlfriend but that's not necessarily a bad trait. The kids need to see daddy being treated like a man, not a servant.
Jon is far from perfect but they have 2 parents and their mother is completely incapable of meeting any of their emotional needs.
There's sure alot of Jon defenders here.
And why?
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Maybe because some of us know him.
I can't sleep tonight. I am going to pay for this tomorrow. Where's the glycine and the Rumspringa?
I don't know Jon or Kate. I watched them both
in action on their tv show. I have all the proof I need that Jon is an involved parent and Kate is not. I have seen Jon treat people well and Kate treat them horribly. I have seen Kate browbeat Jon and Jon still treat her well. They told us all this is their true selves on film, and I believe them.
I don't care about whether either one of them goes to a bar, dates someone or doesn't, or wears funny t-shirts. Those are not the things that make a good parent. Good parents spend time listening to their children, serve as role models, guide, comfort, nourish and shelter their children in a safe and loving environment.
They are raising children to be able to make it in the real world and not in some delusional bubble. I see Jon doing those things and that's good enough for me to call him a good dad and a good human being. Kate? She's got work to do.
Agreed, several people know him personally, have had opportunities to talk with him personally, email him, call him, observe him around town, and have formed their own judgments. Jon has been quietly reaching out for support from people around him far more than Kate ever has. It's partly why his reputation is so good for many despite the media campaign against him.
What we say about Jon doesn't come from thin air. If you've been here long enough you would know we're just not that kind of people. But that said, this place doesn't dictate how you should feel about anyone. Form your own opinion. I'm just letting you know where some of these things are coming from.
I can respect your opinion.
No, I don't know Jon personally.
If we take Kate completely out of the equation, would Jon fare as well? Maybe. But being compared to Kate, I agree he's the lesser of the two evils. But so would anyone! LOL
Fidosmommy - 144
Well said!
Jillybean, good question. Without Kate to compare it to what would we think of Jon? Well what's funny is I think we wouldn't think of Jon. He's too mediocre, too uninteresting, to warrant more than a blip on the radar. The draw of the show was Kate emasculating a nice guy. The draw of Jon today is his recovery from Kate. Kate's a little more interesting on her own than he is because of the depth of her mental illness being played out, but other than that, without each other...ehhh. Hate to say it but without Kate, Jon never would have been famous. He's just too normal and average. And that's a good thing.
Jillybean, good question. Without Kate to compare it to what would we think of Jon? Well what's funny is I think we wouldn't think of Jon. He's too mediocre, too uninteresting, to warrant more than a blip on the radar. The draw of the show was Kate emasculating a nice guy. The draw of Jon today is his recovery from Kate. Kate's a little more interesting on her own than he is because of the depth of her mental illness being played out, but other than that, without each other...ehhh. Hate to say it but without Kate, Jon never would have been famous. He's just too normal and average. And that's a good thing.
I don't discount Jon's spousal abuse from Kate. Spousal abuse is horrible. I can give Jon credit for trying to heal from that. It's certainly no easy thing.
Yeah, I think you're right Admin. Jon would not even be a blip on the radar if hadn't married Kate.
I can almost feel sorry for him in the spousal abuse part of the equation.
If anything Jon was really on his best behavior when he was Ellen, that can't be a coincidence.
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It wasn't Ellen, it was TLC's lawsuit. The thing that can't be a coincidence is that the moment Ellen realized Jon was going to go straight back to tv and tabloids the second his gag order was up she left.
AuntieAnn said... 96
Kelly - I don't have anything against breast implants, facelifts, tummy tucks... any type of cosmetic surgery. People are allowed to do what they want with their bodies as far as I'm concerned. But Kate could put a bone through her nose and deny it was there. That is the problem I have with her. She's a liar.
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Exactly! I don't care either. Just get sick of the "Everything I do is for my kids and I did NOT have breast augumentation- just a good bra" when asked point blank on The View. Own it Kate.
I am starting to think she will never stop advertising her kids- EVER!
Most importantly and offensive, even more than her constant lies and fabrications, is the fact that she sees nothing wrong with using her kids to earn a living. And will stop at nothing. She is a parasite.
I'm sorry but Jon was just as complicit as Kate when it came to begging for free stuff and collecting money from church goers. He has a mind of his own. You can't blame everything on Kate. They were both doing it. Why in the word did Jon recently do an interview with his new girlfriend if he was so "done" with reality TV and the media? I don't buy any of it. I think that he and Kate will go to any lengths not to have to work to support their 8 children. They will continue to work the media and grift to do this.
All this talk about a party reminds me of my Sodahead days. You could send out invitations and the host could decorate and guests could actually "bring" music, drinks, food, gifts, via Photobucket or from your own file, etc. Us home bodies used to do this and it was quite festive and fun. You have a profile page that you decorate and you would get thank you "gifts" after via your profile page. You could go to someone's profile page and use their playlist. It was a place where people primarily talked about current events and hot topics like religion and politics. You build a little community of people who share your beliefs and then debate with groups that do not. It got pretty heated but remained civil. It was quite nice to check your profile and see who thought of you and what kind of well wishes they would deliver. Sometimes it would be the well thought out gift of a song for you or a beautiful bouquet of flowers. If you were absent for a few days there would be the thinking of you's, etc. It was nice but then they got really big and changed it and I don't even know how to navigate it anymore. I hope this is not blogs on blogs just the party talk made me think of it.
I also don't believe some of the people on here who are claiming to "know" Jon. Sorry. Anyone can claim anything on the Internet. You may THINK you know him but honestly, come on. It's one thing to see someone in public with their children and how they behave and another totally behind the scenes. People behave differently in public. Jon's does not get a pass from me just because someone thinks he treats the kids better. He deceived people just the way Kate did. If you think she is a bad person for doing that, then you also must think Jon is. They did it together.
Buddy worse than that he was, at best, complicent in Katie's abuse of their children, and at worst participated in it himself. He was right there with her denying his son's birthday cupcakes, disempacting C in the back of a van with cameras rolling, making fun of J's slight lisp etc etc.
Yeah, he was complicit. Denying the cupcakes and thinking it was funny horrified me. That was the last straw for me.
He *did* drink the koolaid for quite a while. Which I wonder if he has come to regret.
Kate was manipulative to him then, but not abusive? IMO, the abuse of Jon started a little later, as he started to rebel at her abuse of the kids. When he started putting his foot down, she went after *him*.
He doesn't get a free pass from me. But he does get points for eventually standing up for himself and the kids, and for generally being a nicer person. Have we ever seen him be demeaning to service people? Calling them Mr. Whatever Man?
I think he went along with Kate at first, and was an equal participant in the grifting. Not his ideas necessarily, but he went along with hers.
He seems needy, and maybe a lot naive. Which I wish he wasn't. He seems to be nice enough, but easily hood-winked. He seems to be led by the nose by whoever he's with at the time. Just as Kate manipulated him so did Michael Lohan, and that stupid attorney. Even Liz led him around. In that case it was good for him, but he was still being led around.
I think the person we want him to be, he isn't, and probably never will be. IMO, probably nice enough, but not too bright, kind of needy. But a million times better parent then Kate, who never should have had kids. She's a horrible mother.
The question above...what would one think of Jon if there was no Kate is a good one. Probably I'd think he's a little inept, ineffective, but nice enough. Good to the kids, obviously treasures them.
If I saw Kate without Jon, I'd still think god, what a horrible mother. What an ugly person. Yuck! Blech! Get me away from her. I feel soooo sorry for those kids.
Has anyone seen the pic on facebook of Kate and 3 helpers at the beach in Alabama? When I tried to look,it says pic not found or something like that. Did anyone see it?
Capecpdmama: OT
Yes, you are right- I saw further reports TS bought a beautiful large home for 4 or 5 million ( reported as a good deal!) apparently 'across the street' from her new beau, Cody Kennedy. Seems a bit fast, but maybe she fell in love with the Cape Cod scenery and atmosphere ( not hard to do) I think TS is lovely, but while business savvy and talented, seems a little immature in the dating dept.Not sure this match will last too long when CK heads back to high school...oh well, good for another song.
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FW: Weren't the two creditors like night and day when Juanita approached them about agreeing to a 2 year term for payment? The first man was understanding and agreeable, while Rich seemed to enjoy seeing J squirm.
Both J and D seem much better off today. Curious when things took such a leap forward for them. Happy on their behalf for sure !
It looks like Danita removed the picture of Kate and the kids at the beach from her facebook site. Wonder why?
Re: Taylor Swift ..oops Conor Kennedy. can't keep track...my daughter is still a fan...
Anita, I figured she would. I have it saved. HA. So, so proves haterz and Kate reads here.
Anita said... 161
It looks like Danita removed the picture of Kate and the kids at the beach from her facebook site. Wonder why?
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Maybe because it got posted as a link elsewhere and she got too many angry, unknown eyeballs commenting. I'd imagine it can be overwhelming.
I was able to see the pic yesterday and it's just an innocuous photo of Kate plus "friends" plus kids on a beach, apparently with one of those pop-up canopy covers.
A far cry from paps descending on BHI following Kate and Steve's every move. Then again, Kate didn't bring along a film crew and a very large body guard.
Maybe Kate put pressure on her to remove the photo, who knows?
Someone (or some entity) made that local radio station take down their interview photos, too...
Anita said... 161
It looks like Danita removed the picture of Kate and the kids at the beach from her facebook site. Wonder why?
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Because only Kate is allowed to use other peoples photos without permission.
And may I add that I am traveling with a pack of high school students and even they have beach toys. Sheesh Kate, can't you even pull the stick out on vacation?
Her CC post about not usually giving them electronics because she likes to foster creativity was SUPER, DUPER FUNNY!!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! From watching little youtube clips of the show, we saw kids who were petrified of getting dirty and kids who were looking around in wonderment when they were doing an activity that involved mess for R show. Bitch please. I think they spend alot of time in their rooms watching TV so as not to disturb the ugly and mediocre decor of the house THEY bought. Her delusions and contradictions are off the chain. It's like she doesn't even care to tell believable lies anymore.
LoveMyGrandsons said... 11
I made one of the Pioneer Woman's recipes that was on her show a couple weeks ago, chicken spaghetti. Oh my gosh, was that delicious!! As usual, I made too much (my hubby always teases me that I make enough in case a tour bus breaks down in front of our house!).
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LOL! I kept reading the comments but was still giggling over this one! I still struggle with this too; I grew up in a family of 9 kids, and I myself have 4 so there was always lots of food on the table and now there is only 2 of us and it's hard!!!! ...tour bus breaks down... I love that!
Danita's FB account is private now. Smart move.
I believe Danita's twitter is gone too. Too funny and too late. Katie, we know where you went.
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Jillybean said... 45
Whore = Lohan's pregnant gf
Can't think of her name. Kate Major?
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Jon dodged a bullet there. Who on earth would get herself knocked up by the likes of Michael Lohan?
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WHILE she has a restraining order on him for smacking her around! Isnt she the one that quit her job in order to devote herself to her Jon-crush?
WHILE she has a restraining order on him for smacking her around! Isnt she the one that quit her job in order to devote herself to her Jon-crush?
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Yeah, let's hope no one has any bunnies!
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When Danita tweeted Kate about the pic and seeing her on the beach, Kate's response was positive. She didn't ask her to take it down, at least not that I saw. Kate remembered Danita, so I don't know that Kate's got anything to do with this.
Tucker's Mom ~ Just conjecture, of course. :)
In her response to Danita's tweet, Kate hinted broadly that she wanted to keep the location a secret. But a quick peek at the FB photo (linked here and elsewhere), and the cat was out of the bag.
It just amazes me how Kate's trail continually gets swiffered and people are threatened legally with CA's or lawsuits to keep their mouths shut. Proves to me there is something to hide (or is afraid of getting caught lying). Don't know if it is Kate personally doing the strong-arming, but she is controlling, so my guess it is her. Was she even aware of the picture when she got the tweet? I don't recall Danita tweeting she had a picture, just that she saw her at the beach.
Sure, Jon is attracted to whores, in fact, he was married to one for 10 years.
Loved the Pioneer Woman's take on running. She's so relatable, unlike Kate. The rest of us, like PW, jiggle and whine and need to be shoved out the door to run. I loved a story she posted not too long ago about leaving an office building (I think it was in NYC) after an interview and walking into a glass door.
I bet Kate is in a tizzy because nobody showed up to take bikini pics of her. She said over and over that they were at the beach, and then when nobody showed up looking for her, posted a pic of the beach. Still no paps. Could it be that nobody was interested in taking bikini pictures of Kate, and that's why they didn't come looking for her? Didn't she just tweet a few weeks ago that if they make it to the beach this summer, there will probably be bikini pics of her? And then nobody showed up...ouch!
I think Kate is afraid someone will figure out if the beachhouse was a grift, so that is why all the secrecy. Otherwise, it makes no sense to me. She is home already. Mission accomplished. No paps appeared (that's her story, at least).
I think people here are less forgiving to Jon is because.
He owned up to his S**t and he said he was sorry and tried to do better.
While Kate has basically stayed the same or at sometimes gotten worse with her behavior.
Trust me if Jon was still that same he would get what were giving Kate.
If Kate changed she would be treated diffidently here.
But that's what I think and how I see it.
TLC said,
I think Kate is afraid someone will figure out if the beachhouse was a grift, so that is why all the secrecy.
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Probably, but someone will do some digging and figure it out anyway. The picture is still up on a reality anti-Kate blog.
Cs said... 48
I just looked at the photo of the children sitting on the floor, eating waffle ice cream cones and wearing the Lorax tee shirt. I don't see any child with braces. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Is it possible that this photo was NOT taken on Sunday?
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There was a photo a couple of weeks back where they were supposedly on some farm tour with the friend of hers who came to stay. (OMG 11 KIDS IN THE HOUSE!) All of Kate's children were in the Grin And Show Your Teeth pose and none had braces then either. Cara looked like she was grinning on command through some kind of agony, but there were no braces anywhere.
Tucker's Mom said: When Danita tweeted Kate about the pic and seeing her on the beach, Kate's response was positive. She didn't ask her to take it down, at least not that I saw. Kate remembered Danita, so I don't know that Kate's got anything to do with this.
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Danita and Kate just tweeted each other; there wasn't any mention of a photo. She only told Kate she sat next to her on the beach and Kate acknowledged that. Kate was clueless Danita had a facebook page with her photo on it. I think Kate only learned that when a lot of people were tweeting that info to Kate later in the day.
I agree it is probably isn't the tups that have the braces. It is possibly Mady (again) or Cara. I am sure in time most if not all of the tups will get them.
Maybe Invisalign braces? In any case, I just wish she'd keep that sort of thing private. Especially the tweets about snapped wires getting entangled in the rug and whatnot. How embarrassing.
Re: braces.
I thought in the farm wagon ride photo it looked like Alexis might have braces, but couldn't tell in the Lorax pic. Maybe that pic was actually taken earlier? Or, maybe the child just has the bottom or part of the initial brace work done. I know the ortho said Mady would need braces again, but who knows? again, no one would care if she didn't make a big public deal of it and if the braces were not a grift- I think someone said a friend of Jon's dad was doing the orthodontics free (Don't know if that's correct?)
Layla said,
She said over and over that they were at the beach, and then when nobody showed up looking for her, posted a pic of the beach. Still no paps. Could it be that nobody was interested in taking bikini pictures of Kate, and that's why they didn't come looking for her?
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There are a lot of beach up and down the Atlantic and on the Gulf Coast and so many places to look for her. With sightings of her all over the place, including Delaware, even if someone were interested in finding her, they'd have to do a lot of sleuthing to find her. She's not worth anyone's time or energy to do that.
I am way behind but those who are James Patterson fans - I recommend The Painted House. It is a beautiful book.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 101
I think the problem Kate is running into is she is running out of blog fodder.
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She never had blog fodder to begin with. Hence multiple posts about how she doesnt know how to do laundry, multiple posts about her pool that she doesnt comprehend etc. She has nothing to say because she doesnt HAVE anything in her life. I honestly dont know what she does all day, especially when the kids are in school. Other than 50 Shades, she doesnt read, doesnt work, doesnt do handicrafts, doesnt clean, she doesnt appear to think, she just has nothing to talk about. It is so odd. Hence her grasping at these stupid straws for topics, making shit up about the topics, and then acting so damn proud of herself thinking she really pulled a rabbit out of ass once again.
I volunteer to bring rainbows, farting unicorns and shrieks of constant joy. Or is farts of joy and shrieking rainbows and unicorns in salt water...?
I also wonder if Kate was concerned about the optics of her on the beach in Alabama when she promised to have lunch with her cruisers in FL?
I finally got around to reading Kate's pathetic blog at CC this morning. What a joke. She tries so hard to pretend she knows something about raising kids. She's never done it.
"... my kids have grown up doing skits, performing plays and playing school..."
Kate Kate Kate. Your kids grew up on tv. They were working all day. They were performing for the camera you insisted on having in their faces. They were too tired to play.
"... this type of play is good for my bank account!."
Excuse me? That bank account is in the millions. THEY put it there, you thief.
"I urge parents to encourage imaginative play at home so that the modern miracle of electronic gaming can save you when you travel"
HAHAHAHA!!! You URGE parents? Who the hell would want to emulate your parenting?
"It works, trust me!"
Trust YOU?? Not in a million years.
Geez, can't her tweens she always brags about at least help with all the unpacking ( and the tups) and do some laundry? surely they can put clean clothes away and dump the beach one ( one dirty swimsuit each) in the laundry room? Put away their electronics for the next trip (lol)
I will bring 'floaties' for those who need them to the party and one boogie board to share...maybe a pinata. Kate never has a party without one so I figure it must save money somehow. It will be stuffed with Q-pons. The pinata will be shaped like a grow-a- boyfriend.
No beach toys other than the boogie board allowed.
Not to mention this modern miracle wasn't really satisfying the kids on the RV trip. Remember when Hannah was telling the cameras how BORED they were, all they did was watch DVDs, they brought along about 200 DVDs and she was bored out of her mind watching DVDs. Poor kid, I don't blame her.
I know Kate, why don't you get off your lazy butt and put together some road trip games for the kids. License plate games, landmark games, travel board games, etc. Oh wait that would require effort.
Dwindle said... 186
She never had blog fodder to begin with. Hence multiple posts about how she doesnt know how to do laundry, multiple posts about her pool that she doesnt comprehend etc. She has nothing to say because she doesnt HAVE anything in her life.
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That's exactly what I said. Her blog entries are about as useful as fish scales. She is completely out of her realm in the world of blogging. It's just one more thing she's lousy at doing. Check!
"... my kids have grown up doing skits, performing plays and playing school..."
Kate Kate Kate. Your kids grew up on tv. They were working all day. They were performing for the camera you insisted on having in their faces. They were too tired to play.
"... this type of play is good for my bank account!.
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Doing skits=saying this time on jon and kate plus 8, performing plays=hitting their mark, remembering their lines, rehersing the show before it is ready to be seen by the viewing public, and as for playing school? That's what they did when kate pulled them out of school or school activities to film. And she def made lots of money off of all those things. Most honest thing katies written for the cc blog.
TLC said,
I also wonder if Kate was concerned about the optics of her on the beach in Alabama when she promised to have lunch with her cruisers in FL?
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Did she promise to have lunch with them? Was it confirmed and she backed out? I just remember reading that she would try to meet them pre-cruise...nothing definite.
Kate said she would "try" which is Kate speak for that shit ain't happening.
Alabama is one long, long drive from PA. Good heavens. Is this the only grift she could come up with on short notice?
Dwindle said 179
There was a photo a couple of weeks back where they were supposedly on some farm tour with the friend of hers who came to stay. (OMG 11 KIDS IN THE HOUSE!) All of Kate's children were in the Grin And Show Your Teeth pose and none had braces then either. Cara looked like she was grinning on command through some kind of agony, but there were no braces anywhere.
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Dwindle, You are correct. What I don't understand is why she feels the need to lie about something so insignificant. This is the photo that shows NONE of the children have braces on.
July23rd, Kate tweeted:
It's a farm tour with friends!!!! Making more fun summer memories! http://img.ly/l9q2
July 8th, Kate tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
It's 'Braces On' party tonight 4 my lil 1 who's getting braces tomorrow..Gummy fish,popcorn,pretzels. Eating ALL contraband foods 1 last X!
July 9th, Kate tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Just left @readingortho w a set of braces on a set of teeth :)... Honestly,I can't rave enough abt the fantastic care we always rec there!
July 12th, Kate tweeted:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Whew! What a week! Braces (and all the changes they bring) and VBS at our church! We all survived and enjoyed! Fun family times! GN!
Kate, keep snapping your pictures and posting them on Twitter. They only confirm what most of us already know. You are a pathological liar!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 190
Not to mention this modern miracle wasn't really satisfying the kids on the RV trip. Remember when Hannah was telling the cameras how BORED they were, all they did was watch DVDs, they brought along about 200 DVDs and she was bored out of her mind watching DVDs. Poor kid, I don't blame her.
I know Kate, why don't you get off your lazy butt and put together some road trip games for the kids. License plate games, landmark games, travel board games, etc. Oh wait that would require effort.
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It would also require that she ride in the same vehicle as her children. I'd betcha a quart of rumspringa that shit didnt happen either.
eonline.com/news/308645/jon-gosselin-3-500-behind-in-child-support-former-reality-dad-fires-back-on-twitter
Here is the Jon that I loathe, the pathological liar who constantly refuses to own his bad behaviour. He lied about being $3500 in arrears on April 13, 2012. So lets give Kate credit where credit is due.
She didn't expose his lies until he went after her through Star magazine on August 2nd. At that time he was trying to suggest his monthly child support commitments were making it hard to pay his rent, and she has money, draw your own conclusions.
That is why Kate had her lawyer release that the court relieved Jon of all future payments on APril 27. She wasn't gracious about this, she made it sound like she just called up the courts and said I can pay, he can go away.
But we all know better. We know the court never totally releases a parent's financial obligations. They do create orders that ask for $1 per kid per month,which they let fall into arrears and never collect on. And that $1 a month is set so that if the parent ever gets back on their feet and has wages that can be garnished, they can be sued for child support.
So let's quit blowing smokescreens and pretending we just can't know anything unless all the court documents are unsealed. We can, Jon is a liar, Kate is no better, but in this case we know he lied.
Now please don't start a smokescreen about how Kate can only afford the kids because she is exploiting them for money. We get it, Jon still lied.
Mama Mia, how do you know he lied about arrears? Huh? It's even on the web site. Arrears can also be calculated as monthly payments you can also be "behind" on. His attorney is correct he doesn't have to pay CURRENT child support anymore (conveniently leaving out the 50-50 part) but he still is responsible for arrears. I don't think either of them should be talking about child support but I'm not seeing the lie from either of them. Jon is correct he has to pay arrears, the attorney is correct he has no current support payments. I think the attorney honestly didn't factor in that he would still have to pay monthly arrears until that's cleared up. An honest oversight.
secret2 said... 151
If anything Jon was really on his best behavior when he was Ellen, that can't be a coincidence.
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It wasn't Ellen, it was TLC's lawsuit. The thing that can't be a coincidence is that the moment Ellen realized Jon was going to go straight back to tv and tabloids the second his gag order was up she left
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It has always seemed that way to me too. Sad about that.
Ok, the braces thing is so weird! I was going to give her the benefit of the doubt because you can't see invisaline braces, right? But, she made a big stink about the wire coming off and the bracket popping off, getting stuck in the rug, etc...(which also didn't make sense!). So, you can't believe anything she says!!!
Like most of Kate's crappy pictures, that farm pic is so ridiculously grainy I don't know how anyone can say for sure the kids in the back don't have braces. Also any braces wearer knows there is a way to keep your upper lip over the top of your braces when you smile to more or less hide them for pictures.
JoyinVirginia, did you know the lines on red solo cups are measurements? The bottom one is 1 oz for hard liquor, the next is 5 oz for wine and the next is 12 oz for beer. I have grown up using solo cups and have just recently learned this. I guess I should pay more attention when I'm pouring my rumspringa.
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