Sunday, August 5, 2012

The Farmer's Wife: When a reality show tells a truly important story

This week: Part One

Realitytvkids.com will be organizing an official summer "book club" screening of The Farmer's Wife. Watch Part 1 this week, Part 2 the week of August 12, and Part 3 (link to come) the week of August 19 and discuss it as you go with all the interesting folks here.



The Farmer's Wife first aired on PBS in 1998, a three part documentary, which was in essence a reality show, following three years in the life of Nebraska farmer Darrel Buschkoetter, and his strong but tender-hearted wife Juanita, along with their three sweet young girls.

The Farmer's Wife is one of the few great reality shows to ever grace our small screens. The Farmer's Wife had it all: tough, sincere characters, and a compelling story of hard work and perseverance in small-town America. Heartbreak, struggle, a marriage on the rocks, and the hope to keep a vanishing tradition alive drives this story.

Filmaker David Sutherland originally intended to profile several farming families in Nebraska. However as the project progressed, he became captivated with Juanita's story, and revamped the entire project to focus on her. Said Sutherland"She spoke from her heart, and her love for her husband Darrel's dream touched me deeply."

In the first episode, Juanita reflects on the plans they used to have to have six children. However it turned out three were all they could afford. Although Darrel never said so, Juanita worried he longed for a boy. And yet, said Juanita, "Sometimes I'm almost relieved we don't have a boy ... I'd be scared if we had a boy, he'd be the same way, and I don't know what the future for farming is."

Juanita's soft-spoken candor, and love and dedication to her family and to the farm, was a beautiful character study.

Most reality television out there has been better suited for the dust bin. Most stories need not and often should not be shared. Reality T.V. should just go away, especially shows that feature unprotected children. But once in a great while, a story comes along that should be told. Juanita's story does just that, capturing a moment in time in the late 1990's where a way of life in middle America was fading away, never to be the same again. Sutherland's series is both heartbreakingly tragic and inexplicably beautiful. Enjoy.

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Anonymous said...

Heather -- APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE! In addition to what you said -- The primary educational difference between a degree program and a diploma program is that in the degree program, general courses unrelated to nursing are required for graduation -- courses like History, English, Phys. Ed., etc. The core courses are EXACTLY the same. In fact, many diploma graduates have more hours on the floor actually caring for patients than degree graduates!
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I have also heard from seasoned RNs that there is a difference from "book smart" and "practice" smart, and comparatively, most hospital-based programs do have more time on the actual floors, so more practical experience. Taking extra classes in the humanities gets you a BSN, but may not make you a better or worse RN.

The multitasking that good RNs need to do is astounding. Patient care, best practice, hospital protocol, assessment, prescription orders, dealing with patients' families, patient education, etc. It's just mind blowing. And generally, who catches mistakes in drug orders? RNs.

I have so much respect for them that I feel insulted when people here insult them!

heather

readerlady said...

Rats! Hit publish too soon.

Once a Viewer -- It may have been another set of Irish conjoined twins, but probably I'm just confusing Eilish and Katie with another set. As I said, it was some time ago. I got the name of the famous "Siamese twins" wrong, too. I'm just batting zero on this topic, LOL. It's interesting, though.

capecodmama said...

mama mia

When Jon and Kate separated back in '09 Jon said in an interview that they got no residuals from DVD sales or any products that are sold with regard to their show. Whether Kate changed that with Kate plus 8, who knows.

Heather

Here in MA hospitals have changed their hiring practices with regard to nurses. A lot of hopitals will not even consider you for an interview unless you have a BSN. There were a couple of hospitals in Boston that did have schools of nursing but they were phased out years and years ago. My daughter is an RN at a Boston hospital and her hospital is one that will only hire if you have a BSN. Kate would not even qualify for an interview. And the hospitals that did have the schools of nursing, you work at the hospital that you did your schooling at. When my daughter was in college, she had to train in, I belive, seven clinicals. The hospital that her college trained their nurses at did not have all the clinical training. So she trained at a couple of different facilities. That could be why they decided to phase out the hospitial schools.

tate said...

I would imagine Kate's beach vacation is in the Hamptons. She tweeted a while back that she had an invite from someone to go there. Maybe Deanna has a connection and this is their "adventure" that Kate tweeted about a week or so ago. I'm sure Steve is there too. He probably had to watch the kids while Kate "swam" her 6 miles this morning.

Interesting that she has a "contract" with Rock 'n Roll marathons. Do they pay her or did they just lease her Mercedes van for her? I can't imagine they'd pay her much. It's not like she is an Olympic runner or some hugely popular celebrity.

mama mia said...

Heather, here in Canada in the 1950's to-early '80s one could take a 1 year diploma in either nursing or teaching and work in those professions until retirement without ever having to upgrade their education. Scary. I see Kate as one of those people who feel entitled to do the bare minimum required to earn a pay cheque.

Anonymous said...

I understand that (I have worked for organizations that cater to healthcare professionals for years), however, although I don't have statistics, I would bet that 15 years ago, when Kate started, that was not the case regarding the need of BSNs for employment.

There are programs now that are specifically geared toward the RN to BSN conversion, or even RN to MSN, to address this issue. There are also programs geared to those who have BS/BA and would like to become an RN. These are a sort of MSN conversion programs (take a bunch of pre-reqs, enter MSN program), for lack of a better explanation. These have pretty heavy clinical schedules.

I also believe that is a lot of education is, well, superfluous. I've never understood the need to get a BS/BA, and THEN go to law school or medical school. Why? Does understanding Chaucer and talking a pottery class make a better doctor? Why can't you just go to law school or med school right out of high school?

Anyway, my point is that people keep slamming Kate because she ONLY has a diploma. Fact is, she is an RN, and people need to accept that fact and MOVE ON.

heather

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Anonymous said...

mamamia,

In the U.S. healthcare professional as well as teachers are required to take CE courses to maintain their licenses. In some states, all teachers MUST have a master's degree, or begin taking courses in a master's program, after teaching a number of years to keep their job.

And if you remember, Kate was doing the minimum requirements to keep her license current.

Whether her skills, as the skills of anyone who has been out of work for years, are valid, well, that is for employers to decide. The employment environment is always changing. And ALL workers, myself included, no matter what profession, need to keep up.

heather

mama mia said...

CapeCod Mama, that bit about the DVD residuals is on the net under "Kate's biography", not sure who compiled that information, just thought I'd share.

tate said...

She didn't swim 6 miles. She ran 6 miles (supposedly), but said she "swam" 6 miles because if was so humid out.

I wish she would have swam 6 miles, but I suppose even the sharks wouldn't want her.

Over in Berks said...

Why? Does understanding Chaucer and talking a pottery class make a better doctor? Why can't you just go to law school or med school right out of high school?

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Those wanting to go to law school or medical school need to develop excellence in speaking, writing, researching, critical analysis, and being able to use logic in order to become a success as an attorney or physician. Those skills are learned in undergraduate school.

LB said...

I also have to say I’m disappointed that she had to take a picture of half-naked children in their swimsuits and show it for all of the world’s viewing pleasure. The twins are coming of age and does not need to have that shown on a public feed so that was pretty distasteful in my opinion. I think she could have been more discreet and blocked out their bodies and taken a picture of something else. After all, people were enlarging the picture for a better view. I wouldn't want someone to enlarge it to look at my child's body. She needs to stop before she go overboard and cross a line in regards with Mady and Cara. They are going to see it one day and might not understand why their mother needed to do that.

Some celebrities take pictures of food, table or the view from their eyes, for example. Brooke Burke, who Kate follows, does not post pictures of her children half-naked---not that I have seen recently. She tends to take pictures of the food, decorations, board game, smiling with friends, etc of whatever they are doing/enjoying. She posted beautiful pictures of the surroundings when she was hosting a party at her home. It’s pretty rare but she occasionally posts a clear picture of one of her children, but only to convey the reason behind it. She doesn’t need to prove anything, hence the tact she employs of taking pictures of her children, unlike Kate. She will mention that she’s at her daughter’s dance camp but does not provide a picture. That’s great! We do not need to see that anyway.

Also why did she say she ‘budgeted’ for a beach getaway? She doesn’t have to do that with her monthly trips to NYC. 2 or 3 of these NYC trips would have covered the expenses of a beach trip. I would love for her to explain that in a future blog! ‘I shopped at Dollar Tree for beach toys and snacks as a way to get inexpensive food and entertainment for my children! I also poached two of my paid friends to provide me with free babysitting so I can have the entire day to myself! No kids, no responsibilities, nothing! I only have time for ME! ME! ME!’. Just wait, she will say ‘I did this, I did that, I, I, I, me, me, me!’ I also don’t expect her to give credit to anyone else in regards to making the beach trip a success because she has that ‘supermom’ image to live up to and she will really fudge it to get praise from her fans. On the other hand, I don’t think you can really go to the beach with 8 kids by yourself as Cara and Mady are not that old enough to supervise the younger children by theirselves in case Kate has to take someone to the bathroom, go to the parking lot to get something from the car, etc. I know how many times I have had to go back to the car or leave for something. I’d rather someone else be there besides Kate when the children are in the water and have an extra set of eyes on them.

I do think she shops at Dollar Tree or whatever it’s called in her area frequently. Otherwise, where would you find cases and cases of something that costs 50 cents? Dollar Tree has overstocks of things and discontinued items, it seems. I go there when I need to get something I know costs less than what I would get at Target. I go there once every other month because they carry a hair conditioner that is discontinued and it’s the only place that carries it. You can find cases and cases of one thing and there’s no limit on how many you can buy at once. I’ve seen people fill the cart to the brim with just bags of chips. It cost $1!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Most people would never survive law school without four years of undergrad. For one you have to take the LSATs and score high to even get into a decent law school. High school graduates probably wouldn't score high on the LSATs. I didn't do "pottery" in undergrad. I took demanding classes in writing, history, politics, public speaking and the like to give myself a firm foundation. It also gives you four years of learning how to learn and fine tuning your critical thinking to be ready for the Socratic method and the speed of law school. Maturity wise, those four years are crucial. Even then many people can't hack it.

mama mia said...

NT, when Kate said she "swam" her 6 mile run she was referring to how much she sweated due to the humidity.

NT said...

My bad!! I just realized that she did run and because it was so humid it was like swimming. I still think she is on the east coast because it is really humid here in Va.. Bald Head was prob booked so I don't think she is there. I think the hamptons. Grifted a vacay from some sheeple. Budgeted my ass.

NT said...

About $ tree stores,the white cheddar popcorn is really good and it only costs $1. The bags of white cheddar popcorn at Walmart are at least $3.49. You can get some very good deals at $ Tree. I buy bubble bath some spices there and also floor cleaner.

Kate is a twit said...

I doubt Kate will receive any residuals from Kate plus 8 DVD's-the main reason being that, um, there are none. TLC has not released any of those shows on DVD, even though it's been over 2 years since that show was first aired.

Jane said...

NT said... 17
My bad!! I just realized that she did run and because it was so humid it was like swimming. I still think she is on the east coast because it is really humid here in Va.. Bald Head was prob booked so I don't think she is there. I think the hamptons. Grifted a vacay from some sheeple. Budgeted my ass.

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I'm about an hour and a half from the first of the 'Hamptons' - if she's out there, she's hot and sticky. It's very humid. And if she is out there, she'll be seen - both because she wants to, and because there are lots of paps and tourists.

Julianna said...

NT@18 said...

About $ tree stores,the white cheddar popcorn is really good and it only costs $1. The bags of white cheddar popcorn at Walmart are at least $3.49. You can get some very good deals at $ Tree. I buy bubble bath some spices there and also floor cleaner.

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Wasn't there a problem with some product there -- was it toothpaste, made in China, or a food product? The companies overseas were counterfeiting brand name companies here, and were not quality inspected. I seem to remember reading that the ingredients used in Colgate toothpaste sold at the Dollar Tree were not the same as the toothpaste sold at Walmart or pharmacies.

I have no problem using a floor cleaner, dishwashing liquid, laundry detergent, etc., but I think I'd be very careful about a generic product that I put in my mouth or consumed without checking to see where it was made or if it had the FDA label.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

That was an interesting article. It was talking though about the big farms. The guy they profiled had over 3,000 acres. That's one big farm. Big farms are thriving and usually have. It's the smaller farmers of the 90's, the ones who only had 800 or less acres like the family profiled in The Farmer's Wife, who couldn't compete with that.

Anonymous said...

Most people would never survive law school without four years of undergrad. For one you have to take the LSATs and score high to even get into a decent law school. High school graduates probably wouldn't score high on the LSATs. I didn't do "pottery" in undergrad. I took demanding classes in writing, history, politics, public speaking and the like to give myself a firm foundation. It also gives you four years of learning how to learn and fine tuning your critical thinking to be ready for the Socratic method and the speed of law school. Maturity wise, those four years are crucial. Even then many people can't hack it.
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My point is this: Why not have a five-year law program? A six-year medical program with clinical rotations?

And the LSAT, GRE, MCAT, etc. Well what do they have to do with being a good lawyer/doctor/etc.?

They are a for-profit industry. A friend who is now a licensed speech pathologist (went to Mass General) was denied entry into the program because her test score was too low. She paid a lot of money to take a test prep course, raised her score and was allowed entry the next year.

Nothing changed, except she learned how to take the test. That's pretty stupid. She was the same person with the same grades with the same experience.

The cost of our educational system is OUT OF CONTROL. Instead of trying to streamline the process, focus on the material that is 100% relevant, we are racking up more debt and taking classes we don't need.

How many of us just took classes to "satisfy requirements?" All of us did that.

College has also become a service industry, not an educational one, but that is another topic entirely!

I realize I have a different viewpoint then most on this subject, but I approach it with a lot of experience (three different colleges/universities ALL names people here would recognize), as well as teaching experience myself.

I am not against education.

I am 100% in favor of going about it SMARTLY and ECONOMICALLY. Our system needs a major revamp, and in the next 10 years I believe we will see it happen.

heather

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

That was an interesting article. It was talking though about the big farms. The guy they profiled had over 3,000 acres. That's one big farm. Big farms are thriving and usually have. It's the smaller farmers of the 90's, the ones who only had 800 or less acres like the family profiled in The Farmer's Wife, who couldn't compete with that.

Once a Viewer said...

Question:

I have a friend who is a LPN. We did not have those in Canada so I'm confused. She acts as Head Nurse, gives meds, does all the procedures and charting/orders that I did as a RN. What is the difference? (She works in a senior facility)

Kate is a twit said...

One of the non-fans tweeted this. It is a perfect description of Kate and her obsession with Twitter:

"It's like she's constantly narrating her life to strangers instead of living it."

Once a Viewer said...

oh, and another question.Is there another pic of the kids at the beach, LB? The one I saw was shot from a distance so you couldn't see who each child really was...I didn't think it was an exploitative photo with regard to wearing bathing suits although she should not have revealed their private 'memory -making.'

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

My point is this: Why not have a five-year law program? A six-year medical program with clinical rotations?

And the LSAT, GRE, MCAT, etc. Well what do they have to do with being a good lawyer/doctor/etc.?

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You would think that would be easier. They actually used to have a "pre-law" degree. But if you look at most colleges now, they've done away with that. As far as success in law school and bar passage rates, the evidence shows that it's the people with strong, serious majors, do well in law school. It can be a BA or a BS, it doesn't matter, as long as it's a nice solid major that gave you a firm foundation. They don't want you to come in with a bunch of law background. They will teach you that. They want you to come in knowing how to learn.

As far as the LSAT, I have no idea about the other tests, but much to my chagrin since I hate tests generally, the LSAT is a pretty good correlation of success in law school and on the bar. If you score well on it chances are you will do well in law school. This is why unlike undegrad applications, law school applications don't care about a bunch of fluffy essays or how many clubs you were in or what you were president of. They want to know two things, your LSAT score, and your GPA. Because everything else just doesn't seem to matter when it comes down to finding students who will give them good bar passage rates. The numbers don't lie. It's no bullshit test that just discriminates against bad test takers and makes things easier, it is a test that has been perfected to predict success.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

According to an interview in People magazine (May 25, 2009 print edition), Gosselin reports that Jon, who earns less money, has shown signs of resenting her superior income; “I have always made more money than Jon… He hates to speak, he doesn’t write, he doesn’t do public appearances – all those things I love.”

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She is a selfish cow. I thought my money is your money when you are married. Why would you separate it out like that? If Jon is home caring for the kids so she can go out and speak, is that not a team effort and "OUR" money? If it were the other way around, Kate staying home and Jon out working, Kate wouldn't say oh that's Jon's money. It's the family money because the family all worked together to make it happen.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Heather I do agree that there are ways you can glide through college taking fluff classes and still come out with a degree. Or you can sit down with your goals and ask yourself what classes are going to help me further those goals. I hated certain classes like speech class and math and Spanish and international political science but I forced myself to take them. I could have just as easily passed on those, but it would not have served my greater goals. Much of college is what you make of it.

Kate is a twit said...

I have to laugh at some of the writers on Gather, and how they come up with their fictitous articles. This one(not Effie) wrote an article about how Kate is taking the kids on a vacation before she has to start filming her dating show. The title of the article is:

"Kate Gosselin Spends Time With Kids Before Dating Show Duties"

Do these people actually get paid for writing stuff like that?

By the way, I think Effie has jumped ship. She hasn't written an article about Kate since June 16, when she wrote about Kate and her "marathon girls" going out.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Curiosity Killed the Cat, just because people are concerned about how the girls will be able to have the same life experiences as everyone else doesn't mean we expect or want the girls to share about that. No one ever said it's any of our business. I hear compassion, not morbid curiosity. Personally I think they shouldn't share, and I doubt they will. It doesn't mean I don't feel for them and their situation as so many have before.

Kate is a Witch said...

I'm glad I was required to take courses I wouldn't have otherwise taken. I learned a lot and it expanded my horizons.

I believe in both practical education and education for education's sake. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Signed,
An Educator

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate is a Twit I agree. As I think about my law school prep more, it took four years of practice I'm glad I had to learn how to take excellent notes, what my study needs were and how to study, learn about different teaching styles and how to make any style work for me, learn how to learn from your fellow classmates, learn how to work in study groups and how to work by yourself, knowing when to get help and knowing when you're good, all that stuff so crucial to be able to tackle a master's degree.

Once a Viewer said...

Apparently the twins' show will focus on their travels after college to Europe. That's wonderful they are able to experience this. I'm sure they will get plenty of stares with a film crew as well, but I think most people these days have heard about conjoined twins. I do worry about exploitation but i now think they are not delving into personal topics. Kudos to the girls and their parents- they seem to have great self-esteem and a zest for life.

AuntieAnn said...

She is a selfish cow. I thought my money is your money when you are married. Why would you separate it out like that?

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Don't know where I read it or if it was even true, but Jon said when they were married Kate gave him only $5 a day for spending money. It's really not that hard to believe.

I'm sure she gave herself a much more generous allowance.

Down The Shore said...

I just talked to a friend of mine who is in BHI right now. She said the humidity today is unbearable, at least 90 percent, which is bad. I don't know what it is in the Hamptons, but I imagine it's horrible most places on the East Coast.

No Kate sightings, but she just got there and hasn't been out and about. She said she'll keep her eyes open, but really doesn't want to see her!

I seriously doubt she's at the Jersey Shore because the water in the photos is just too calm to be a beach in Jersey, unless it's at the bay.

Jumping In said...

What drives me crazy about Kate is her continued separation of her children by numbers. Whenever we went on a summer vacation, most household rules were abandoned in favor of fun! My younger siblings could stay up with us, fall asleep wherever they landed and scooped up by our parents when the lights went out.

Why does she round up the "littles" and put them to bed at a designated time on vacation? They are individuals, not a herd of 6! She continues to divide by numbers, and is turning Mady and Cara in to her besties. I never, ever get the sense she knows her children as individuals, as real people. The reality show continues to play on in her head, and it still plays in numbers.

Kate is Krazy said...

she also makes the twins be best friends and pretend they have the same interests etc. We know Cara likes sports and Mady drama and music. While they likely share a lot, Kate always lumps them together. How about taking out one tup and one twin shopping for example?

Once a Viewer said...

New pet peeve Kate-ism: 'littles' We should make a list- never mind; that would take a LONG time!

AuntieAnn said...

Once a Viewer said... 40

New pet peeve Kate-ism: 'littles' We should make a list- never mind; that would take a LONG time!
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Kate's "littles" is akin to the Clampetts "young'uns".

mama mia said...

"J. Lo says Manoukian signed an iron-clad confidentiality agreement, which prohibits him from revealing any details about his employment with her to anyone. Lopez is seeking a cool $20 million in damages, and attorneys' fees."

I always suspected people were kept under a tight leash when they work for celebrities.

Mel said...

Hmmm....saw this on a blog, where the lady had just finished running a 26.2 mile marathon.

26.2 miles is a far, far distance to run. It is taxing in every way possible....We were so tired & miserable

Her photos of herself and others as they finished....there was NO ONE who looked fresh as a daisy, and all were beyond caring about putting on lipstick for photos.

Anonymous said...

Kate is a Witch said... 33
I'm glad I was required to take courses I wouldn't have otherwise taken. I learned a lot and it expanded my horizons.

I believe in both practical education and education for education's sake. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Signed,
An Educator
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APPLAUSE to you !! I love education for education sake and I am extremely grateful for the classes I took that were required, but not my interest- I am so much more a well-rounded person because of it.
I am in my Master's program right now, just passed the half-way mark and I may even have enough of my GI Bill left to get another BA degree, which would make my 5th degree :D What can I say, I love learning, and I love educators~ you guys ROCK! Knowledge is power, as schoolhouse rock says, LOL

SuzyQ said...

Once a Viewer said... 40
New pet peeve Kate-ism: 'littles' We should make a list- never mind; that would take a LONG time!
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Haha! Yep, that one is definitely a pet-peeve of mine! I know a couple of women that use the term "littles" & they are just trying to hold on to their kids as babies. They, like Kate, will probably call their kids that until they turn 18!

Ex Nurse said...

The BSN/Diploma debate has been ongoing for at least 30 years, and yet, hospital programs are still accredited to offer the diploma program. I went to an excellent school in the Chicago are that is affiliated with one of the best teaching hospitals and trauma centers in the area. They gave hiring preference to graduates of their own program.

I doubt that the hospitals still sponsoring their programs are not hiring their nurses--almost every student in my class was hired. Any hospital will take an experienced nurse over a new graduate, regardless of which route was taken to earn the RN designation.

I agree that hospital programs offer more practical experience-I was on the floor my first week. In BSN programs, a student may not take a nursing class until their third year because of all of the prerequisites. Given the trend towards BSNs, today, It may be a better overall route for many new students--Since I already had a Bachelors in Psychology when I attended nursing school, I didn't go that route.

If a BSN ever becomes a requirement, it will only effect newly certified nurses--current licensed nurse will be grandfathered. Also, there are many BSN completion programs available after certification. Some people can't afford the luxury of taking 4 years for college.

This is at least the third time that this poster has popped in and dropped the 'diploma' bomb. I started posting here because of similar comments. I don't know if she says this out of ignorance or to provoke a reaction--I'm beginning to believe the latter. To my knowledge, no other poster has repeatedly trend consistently bashed nurses like this one has. This time, she also dropped in to criticize the diversity of topics being discussed on the blogs.

Heather-your response was spot on!

Ex Nurse said...

Oops-- The person who made the 'quick diploma' comment was the not the same person I was referring to. Sorry for the hostile tone--those comments make me crazy. The 2.5 years that I spent earning my diploma did not feel quick. Unlike BSN students, we put in 40 hours a week (had academics, and half on the floor). I attended a three year program, but was able to accelerate because of my clinical experience in a psychiatric hospital setting.

wayward said...

@msgoody2shoes21 @GodPosts that is so true! We all need both to gain wisdom and make good decisions for the ones who count on us! :) about an hour ago

How slap in the face ironic? Putting your family on TV is a decision parents of multiples almost never make. The few who have, did not go to the naked and exploitive lengths you did to make a buck. When your own home state has to pass laws to protect YOUR children from you, because you WON'T make a sound decision on their behalf- screams irresponsibility and unsound decsison making. As a direct result of you forcing them to be on tv, now you claim you can't take them out in public because there would be a panic. Therefore, you seclude them in their home. What a crappy life as a result of your poor decision.

Buying a 1.2 million dollar estate in the end of the real estate bubble with NO long term income to support it is the polar opposite of a good decision.

Sitting on Twitter when you're supposed to be engaging with those kids who depend on you, begging, hinting and whining for a tee vee job is not very sound either. Make your own damn destiny, stop begging for someone to hand it to you. It's pitiful.

Who are you freakin' kidding about gaining wisdom? You've gained NOTHING, nada, zip, zero in these last 8 years. Whether you're looking for change in the couch or managing your 11 bank accounts, you want what you want when you want it. You then want someone else to pay for it, care for it, mow it, cook it and clean it. When you blew the Paula Deen talk show by being an insufferable bitch, I'm sure some of those "people" you have/don't have (depending on which lie o' the day you're going with) told you you need to be more cooperative/personable. Did you gain wisdom from not getting that job? No, you went on DWTS 6 mos. later and treated everyone you came in contact with like dirt. After several (not one or two) Today show appearances, it leaked out how mean you were to the mediocre help.

So this wisdom you speak of, is this just more of this RT stuff you think sounds good, but it only pertains to other mediocreish people? Because I haven't seen you exhibit one gram of wisdom in eight years.

Over In Berks said...

And to think it took a court order, to get Kate to put 15% of K8 for the kids. Kate was hoarding all the money.

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The decision was made by the PA Department of Labor after the child labor law hearings in 2010. What's interesting is that if she puts them on television again, even in her new dating show (if it happens), the state could re-open the case and file charges for past offenses.

Over In Berks said...

Barbee -- the multiple topics happen on every thread. Take a look at the topics at each post, and if they are of no interest to you (such as farming, cats, pop-up ads), just scroll past.

TLC stinks said...

Hmm. No airport sitings so they drove. No grocery store sitings so someone is buying the food other than Kate or Steve. The water is exceptually calm for a beach. It is humid. Where in the world is Grifty Kate and Steve?

anger issues kate said...

LB: you know why Kate threw budgeted in, cause if didn't it would make her blogs look foolish. As well as herself, with I save money, and not to be called a rich lying bitch, and about a half dozen other names, and that she is a lair, a fake phony, she has money, all this cryin poor, struggling crap, was just that crap, to keep her in the media and people feeling sorry for her. The fact she is rubbing peoples faces in it. Then she will use: oh we saved for it, by using coupons. BS!

wayward said...

It was mentioned on another blog that Kate has not responded to sheeple tweets about Shoka since she mentioned he needed medicine after eating the road kill.

I'm thinking he threw up on his last throw rug at Casa del Greed and Misery and he was sent packing. For his sake, I hope he was and will live out his life in a proper home. It would be really sweet if the vet called in animal control and they removed him, but I'm just really stretching now....lol.

Jane said...

wayward said... 53
It was mentioned on another blog that Kate has not responded to sheeple tweets about Shoka since she mentioned he needed medicine after eating the road kill.

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I was thinking about this last night - no recent tweets about Shoka or responses to questions about him. Last idiotic Shoka Diary was in April. Maybe the vacay is to get their minds off the dog that's no longer around.

njay said...

We know you always see the glass full Kate, because that's all we hear you complain about. Where is the positive in that?

Just in case the tweet doesn't go through. I want her to atleast read it here.

Kate is a twit said...

The last time Kate mentioned Shoka on twitter was on July 17. That was the day that she bemoaned having leftover egg yolks, and that Shoka was on a soft food diet. She also complained about her vet bill that day.

Despite requests from her tweeties, especially Milo, about how he was doing, she hasn't replied.

Over In Berks said...

anger said -- she is a lair, a fake phony, she has money, all this cryin poor, struggling crap, was just that crap, to keep her in the media and people feeling sorry for her.

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I think you mean "liar." On the other hand, a lair is something that is secluded, secretive, covert...so yes, I guess that fits, too, when one considers her speaking in code and carefully manipulating her words!

"Hmm. No airport sitings so they drove. No grocery store sitings so someone is buying the food other than Kate or Steve. The water is exceptually calm for a beach. It is humid. Where in the world is Grifty Kate and Steve?"

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My guess is Outer Banks, and from there to Florida and the cruise without the sheeple. Where in the world is Waldo?

librarylady said...

Well, I couldn't stand it and watched. She is THE worst interviewee.

http://www.extratv.com/2012/08/08/kate-gosselin-on-dating-running-and-couponing/

Andrea said...

I find it odd that the Hensel girls are signing up for reality tv. Their parents were protective of them. They did some shows but that was more to get the media to leave them alone. The shows were mostly updates on the girls lives. I dont know if this show will be in their best interest. We will have to wait and see what angle they use.

American TV has turned into a circus freak show. In general, reality tv seeks out the most outrageous extreme personalities. Two good examples are The Jersey Shore and Here Comes Honey Booboo. These people are being reward for bad behavior. It also exploits people with mental illnesses like hoarders and my strange addiction.

AuntieAnn said...

Thanks for that link librarylady, I hadn't yet seen that little interview. She'll do a dating show if it's tasteful and well done? She qualifies for the well done part. Stick a fork in her. Tasteful? I don't think she'll be able to pull that one out of her hat.

You are so right though. Honestly and I mean HONESTLY after all these years, she's still agonizing to listen to in an interview.

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"I'm thinking he threw up on his last throw rug at Casa del Greed and Misery and he was sent packing."

wayward - Casa del Greed and Misery - lol!

I hope he's been banished to a better home too. You know, for a trained nurse, you'd think she'd be able to handle the vomit part of things better. What is her problem?

Kate is a twit said...

That interview was the most self-serving bunch of crap. Again, Kate putting words into her children's mouths. Her dating is constantly discussed during dinner? Yeah, right.

"I run, I bake bread, I have a blog at CC, I have my own blog, MY kids are flourishing, MY season of DWTS, etc, etc."

To sum up the interview--"look at me me me, see how wonderful I I I am-I'm Super Mom!"

Localyocul said...

Once a Viewer said... 40

New pet peeve Kate-ism: 'littles' We should make a list- never mind; that would take a LONG time!
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Kate's "littles" is akin to the Clampetts "young'uns".

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This irks me too. They tucked the littles in and she is hanging with C and M. She makes it sound like the "littles" are 4 and C and M are 20.

KyPastor said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 15
Most people would never survive law school without four years of undergrad. For one you have to take the LSATs and score high to even get into a decent law school. High school graduates probably wouldn't score high on the LSATs. I didn't do "pottery" in undergrad. I took demanding classes in writing, history, politics, public speaking and the like to give myself a firm foundation. It also gives you four years of learning how to learn and fine tuning your critical thinking to be ready for the Socratic method and the speed of law school. Maturity wise, those four years are crucial. Even then many people can't hack it.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

I attended a Presbyterian Seminary. A bachelor's degree was mandatary for admittance.
They didn't care what the bachelor's was in, it could be zoology or history, but a bachelor's was necessary for the very reasons you cited.
I studied foreign language, logic, psychology, sociology, history, English literature among other things for my Social Work degree which in turn granted me access to Seminary.

AuntieAnn said...

Kate is a twit - Don't forget "I'm on twitter a lot".

Gee, we didn't notice, Kate.

And she just couldn't resist mentioning Pam was the ONLY non-finalist AGAIN. Don't anyone tell her, but her 'jellusy' is showing.

I always get the feeling Kate rehearses her answers in front of a mirror. Not that it helps.

PatK said...

Oh, my. That Extra interview was sad...just sad. How obvious that she's once again grifting for a dating show and/or getting a show with her and the kids back on tv. And I seriously doubt that the kids ask her every night at dinner when she's going to date. Puh-leeze!

Why, oh why, do they even give her interview time?

AuntieAnn said...

This irks me too. They tucked the littles in and she is hanging with C and M. She makes it sound like the "littles" are 4 and C and M are 20.
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Localyocul - I think she believes if she makes besties with Cara and Mady, they won't turn on her in the next couple of years. We'll see about that.

Kate is a twit said...

Well, at least she admits she's on twitter a lot. It irks me how she keeps pointing out that Pam is the only non-finalist. Depending how the vote goes, the 13th contestant may also be a non-finalist. Of the 3,Kyle Massey is the only one who made the finals. Sabrina Bryan and Carson Kressley did not.

And notice she had to point out again how "relieved" she was that she didn't make it to the show.

libraryname said...

She really is struggling in that interview to figure out what to say she's doing...because she doesn't really do anything.

I'm afraid these interviews do not help her, as they really show her lack of personality presence and poor "acting" (head rolls, drama eyes) - she is very unnatural on the camera. I am, too - so I don't do those kinds of things. It would be better if she didn't do them.

AuntieAnn said...

So at this BlogHer conference, just what would have Kate been handing out for samples at her booth? Coupons? Her business card?

There were no actual photos of her AT her booth either. What was she doing there?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

What she sees as cute, the kids asking about dating, I see as unhealthy and an indication they really need a lot of therapy both individually and conjoint with their parents.

Buddy said...

Okay, I'm sorry, but after seeing the latest E interview, I am back to believing that Jon and Kate are working together to get her a show. She talks about how she would like to do a show about being a "single" mom of 8 kids, picking up where they left off. Hmm . . . all of a sudden Jon isn't paying child support. "Single Mom". If you watch the interview a while back that someone posted where they say that Jon's controversy makes Kate more popular rings true. I think that is what they are doing. I think they are trying to drum up controvesy in Jon not having to pay child support so that Kate gets more attention in the press. It is all so clear. I don't trust either one of them. She will not be able to film the kids without Jon's consent and he has already given that. This is just so mediocre. It is Jon and Kate manipulating everyone again. Just like they have always done.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

A while back I was watching " LA TODAY " a morning talk show, and they were discussing Spencer and Heide Pratt. They said that the media was fed up with them and were not going to cover them anymore! They haven't been seen or heard of since then. WHY don't they do the same to Kate? Her 15 min. Should have been up 14 1/2 minutes ago! Extra is her biggest fan!! Extra move on, there is nothing there, as a matter of fact she is aging really bad! I'm surprised her money hasn't been able to help her!

And she is such a liar! Her kids would never encourage her to date. Besides she already has two loves, Steve and Twitter, she doesn't have time for anyone else, including her kids!

Kate is a twit said...

Auntie Ann-one description of the CC booth was:

CouponCabin Booth will have Kate Gosselin there on Friday from 11a-1p and 3p-5p for photo opps

Kate was there to have her picture taken with attendees. That was supposed to be the draw.

They probably didn't give out samples-most likely there was someone else there explaining how their app works.

fidosmommy said...

Don't you just want to ask how many people came by the CC booth for a photo op? It seems to me that if it were a lot of people, Kate would have said something about it by now. Frankly, I have visions of the Long Beach Women's Conf.
dancing in my head.

AuntieAnn said...

Thanks Kate is a twit. So in other words she got to stand around and show off her chicklet teeth. They got her to do what she does best I guess.

Kate is a twit said...

Too bad Kate doesn't put into practice the thought in this tweet that she retweeted.

kateplusmy8
RT @GerogeClooney: Learn to appreciate what you have, before time makes you appreciate what you had.

Also, that tweet was originally retweeted by The Notebook who Kate follows. The original tweeter is NOT George Clooney(notice the spelling of George). It is a parody account whose bio reads:

"parody. Not George Clooney. Inspiring and motivational tweets. no affiliation with the actor George Clooney."

Kate conveniently left off @Notebook in that tweet. Kate probably thinks it's the real George Clooney and is trying to impress him by retweeting something he said.

Sherry Baby said...

Geroge Clooney ‏@GerogeClooney
Learn to appreciate what you have, before time makes you appreciate what you had.
Retweeted by Kate Gosselin

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Wouldn't you think that if this came from George, he would at least know how to spell his own name?

Amy2 said...

Just reviewing the comments for the day. I'm going to respond to the threads about college graduate admissions. I work at a 4-year university and have sat on many graduate admissions committees over the years.

The question about the taking entrance exams (GREs, etc.) is valid. The exams themselves are difficult and may not entirely be an indicator of an applicants ability to succeed in graduate school. However, it is one of several documents that are considered when making admission decision.

When looking at 600 applicants for 6 or 7 slots, the first cut are the exams. If the applicant did not make the minimum score, they are done. Not fair I know, but its the reality. When there are 150 applicants against 8-10 slots, the numbers are better and the committee will consider someone with a reality low score (within 5 points) provided the rest of the documents (letters of recommendation, transcripts, statement of purpose) are solid. The problem that occurs with international applicants is the applicant is not always the person taking the exam. This factor is also taken into consideration, though the applicant may not totally out of the running provided other docs are solid.

As for prepatory classes for graduate school, yes, they are definitely considered. The committee wants to see the grades for classes taken in the field in which they are applying (biology, neuroscience, polictical science, etc.). And if the applicant took easy classes (e.g. basket weaving, etc.) throughout their undergraduate career, the question would come to mind the student's commitment to scholarly work.

And then there's the case where the applicant did every thing right and gets admitted. After a term or two the student discovers that graduate school isn't for him (her). This is sad because another applicant was denied that slot.

Graduate admissions is not a science, its simply hard work on the part of the applicant and the committee.

So going back to the original question...should entrance exams be required because its only shows the applicants ability to take tests. That's a question that has been debated for many, many years and won't be answered anytime soon. From my viewpoint, the exams are one of several indicators on whether the applicant will succeed in graduate school or not.

AuntieAnn said...

fidosmommy - yes I am curious about that. I think I said this on the other thread, where were some of her 100,000 'fans' which she's accumulated via twitter? Did any of them show up?

What's Next? said...

Summerwind said... 1
I have no clue how one would go around making an 'auction' tape of themself.

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Do you mean audition tape?

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Makes sense to me..."SOLD" to the highest bidder. Snark intended.

Sherry Baby said...

Sorry, Twit! We saw it at the same time!

Wowser said...

Uggghh...I hate listening to her on interviews!! Talk about BEGGING to be back on tv!!! "ummmmm you know it's been a year since our show and we were on for so many years and ummm we would love to continue where we left off because ummm people want to umm see what has been going on" yadadayada. Ummm...hey Kate....no one needs to catch up because you tweet and advertise your whole freakin life!! " ummmm I am shopping..come take pictures! Ummm I am pumping gas in hooker heels, come take pictures. Ummm my dog barfed, here's a picture ..., omg I just did the biggest fart! Watch on ET tonight at 7:30 ". No one has MISSED anything and I cannot believe that any network would even consider doing any show with her on it. I think if Gosselinbook Gets published, it will be the final nail in her coffin. I think that's why she is trying so hard to get a contract in place BEFORE it comes out. Our only hope is that the book comes out first.

Amy2 said...

Ooops.

...with a reality low score (within 5 points"

should be ...a "relatively"...

Sorry for the error.

Sherry Baby said...

Makes sense to me..."SOLD" to the highest bidder. Snark intended.

________________

Lots of good malapropisms going around here lately. Dr. Malaprop would be proud!

Tucker's Mom said...

librarylady said... 58
Well, I couldn't stand it and watched. She is THE worst interviewee.

http://www.extratv.com/2012/08/08/kate-gosselin-on-dating-running-and-couponing/
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I'm not a child of divorce so I wonder if anyone can chime in about really, really wanting your parent to date again?
My guess would have been that children, especially ones as young as Kate's, have no concept of dating, attraction to someone else, romantic love etc. So, why they'd all (yes, she said all again) practically beg her to date is just not believable to me.
Kate also says once again, she'd film the crap out of those kids. It's for the fans, dontcha know. And if the fans are wondering what all the kids are up to, of course the only way to keep them informed is to give Kate a show.
She's disgusting.

The Bitter End said...

What she sees as cute, the kids asking about dating, I see as unhealthy and an indication they really need a lot of therapy both individually and conjoint with their parents.
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I agree on the therapy point. Wait until Katie realizes how much cell phone data plans and car insurance is going to cost. Then it will hit the fan.

I think Katie Irene takes quite a few liberties with the term "the kids". That said, I have no doubt that her older daughters talk about Katie dating but I doubt it goes down as Katie describes. Probably more like pillow talk as the three of them hide in Katie's room from the horrors of raising the other six children.

Just a thought...The three of them probably talk a lot about what the next TV show for Katie should be.

Rhymes with Witch said...

That was an interesting article. It was talking though about the big farms. The guy they profiled had over 3,000 acres. That's one big
farm. Big farms are thriving and usually have. It's the smaller farmers of the 90's, the ones who only had 800 or less acres like the family profiled in The Farmer's Wife, who couldn't compete with that 22

The article also appeared to extoll the benefits of genetically modified seeds as well. I did not mean the article to be an analogy, but I did find it interesting.
I spent years in Vermont ("more cows than people") and those dairy farmers worked damn hard.

Rhymes with Witch said...

You know, for a trained nurse, you'd think she'd be able to handle the vomit part of things better. 60

Well she couldn't handle her babies' poop, either.

The Bitter End said...

She is a selfish cow. I thought my money is your money when you are married. Why would you separate it out like that? If Jon is home caring for the kids so she can go out and speak, is that not a team effort and "OUR" money? If it were the other way around, Kate staying home and Jon out working, Kate wouldn't say oh that's Jon's money. It's the family money because the family all worked together to make it happen.
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The break with Katie Irene and her children will be over money. It could take the form of data/communication devices, car insurance, the number and types of automobiles the children want, the type of college they want to attend, semester abroad, travel in general or a host of other things.

By then they will understand that Katie has pocketed the money and won't give it up without a fight.

There's the hook for the update show. It ought to be a ratings draw.

Anonymous said...

(This is Remona)
Buddy said... 71
.......''She will not be able to film the kids without Jon's consent and he has already given that. This is just so mediocre. It is Jon and Kate manipulating everyone again. Just like they have always done.''
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I disagree that Jon has already given consent for the kids to be filmed again. He only said that IF she got another show, they would discuss filming the kids. Unlike Kate, I believe Jon is aware that she will NEVER get another show, so it is in his (and the kids) best interest to not fight w/her at this point!! Why get her in an uproar over something that hasn't happened, and most likely will never happen?
Remona

Widowed Young said...

UGGG! Just watched that Extra video and she is just so full of herself.

And she is baking all her bread now? Kate-putting ingredients in a bread maker and pushing a button is not baking. My late husband used to love to bake bread on his days off. He taught me about starters and we were able to keep a sourdough starter going for a while. He told me about his great-grandmothers that was passed down through the family for years.

He would make a huge mess and I always hated that he didn't clean up after himself. There was flour all over my kitchen from the kneading at the table, bowls covered with wet towels while the dough was rising, then cornmeal and melted butter containers to clean up as he dusted the hot loafs when they came out of the oven. It was a long process but I do miss it now that he is gone. It was a hobby that he loved-he BAKED bread-he didn't push a button.
(I do admit using the bread maker for pizza dough-but we preferred the hot fresh loaves of different types of bread that he slaved over).

Anonymous said...

The greater issue I see is that college is supposed to make you ready to enter the workforce.

Most people don't take out thousands and thousands of dollars in loans just to "educate themselves." Smart people can educate themselves in a lifelong manner without ever paying a dime for it. But that approach does not make you employable.

People attend college so they can get a job. Period.

AFTER a person has a first degree, if they can afford it, they may go back for more degrees, possibly to get a higher level degree to further their earning potential. Job focused.

Or they go back usually because it is something they enjoy. That type of college attendance is better referred to as a HOBBY. Everyone knows a person who has multiple degrees. One of my husband's best friends has four undergrad degrees, none of which have anything to do with what he does for a living (he is also 100s of thousands of dollars in debt).

My point is making it affordable and making it, well MAKE SENSE.

What would be so WRONG about streamlining the process so it takes less time, fewer loans/less money, and allows you to enter your field MORE prepared?

Cut out the undergrad nonsense, streamline it to three years max for a "BA/BS" and have other offerings such as five-year "undergrad"/law school combo, 6-year "undergrad"/medical school combo, and include practical experience.

Higher education is a money maker, period. Why do think if you transfer, most schools REFUSE to accept transfer credit even for 100% interchangeable courses? If you are going, decide wisely. If your kids are going, AGAIN decide wisely.

Our system is broken. By the time son is college age, it will probably cost almost $170K (minimum) for a BA/BS.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/47565202/What_College_Tuition_Will_Look_Like_in_18_Years

Do you really think salaries are going to increase that much to help cover that cost? At what point is it justified? At what point do we say enough is enough?

And: What is REALLY the main purpose of attending college and "earning a degree"?

heather

Sherry Baby said...

I disagree that Jon has already given consent for the kids to be filmed again. He only said that IF she got another show, they would discuss filming the kids. Unlike Kate, I believe Jon is aware that she will NEVER get another show, so it is in his (and the kids) best interest to not fight w/her at this point!!

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Which is exactly what happened with the cruise. He didn't make a fuss over taking the twins because I think he knew the trip was never going to happen.

What's Next? said...

Tucker's Mom said... 85

I'm not a child of divorce so I wonder if anyone can chime in about really, really wanting your parent to date again?
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I am a child of divorce and I can tell you that is most definitely not the case with children of divorce. It is a well documented fact that except in very extreme cases children of divorce would love for their parents to get back together and this is not an extreme case. Extreme would be if one of the parents was an absolute monster and abusive to the children(physical or sexual abuse or something along those lines).

I don't believe for one minute that the children ask daily when she is going to start dating again. They love their father and no one can replace him in their lives and the same goes with Jon's girlfriend versus their mother.

They want the family unit back - not new people filling that role. That remark just shows that Kate is lying and she is totally out of touch with her children's feelings.

It is hurtful to both Jon and the children for her to say that. I wish a judge would see that and how harmful that is to the children and shut her down.

AuntieAnn said...

Widowed Young said... 91
Kate-putting ingredients in a bread maker and pushing a button is not baking.
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That's the thing with Kate. She HAS to steal the credit, even from an appliance.

Sweet Tart said...

Heather -- I appreciate what you are saying about college, and your desire that it could somehow be streamlined. However, I am a proponent of a "well-rounded" education, and not just one that focuses solely on the information one will need in their chosen profession.

For one thing, many students don't know exactly what profession or career they ultimately want when they enter college. Many are fresh out of high school and just don't know what they want to do as a career. Having a more encompassing sort of education can help them identify what they might like to do.

For another, Americans seem woefully undereducated in comparison to people from other countries. I am all in favor of any college education that requires students gain more general knowledge of world history, literature, science, etc. You really cannot go wrong by knowing a lot more about the world, but you can end up rather ignorant on many things by simply focusing your education in one area only.

There are many trade schools and vocational schools that do offer focused programs. While I am very concerned about the rising cost of a college education (since I'll be paying for my son's college tuition after he completes high school), I want for him to experience a broad exposure to different cultures, ideas, and knowledge than he has received thus far. I want him to think about how world history affects us today, to develop critical thinking skills that will make him question the phoniness that fills our television screens, and I hope he develops a broader world view rather than one that only focuses on his particular chosen career path.

Improbable Dreams said...

http://www.extratv.com/2012/08/08/kate-gosselin-on-dating-running-and-couponing/

Try watching this interview with your eyes & ears focused on Kate's non-verbal "tells":

millisecond-long flashes of anger in the middle of her smiles

shaking her head no while saying something "positive"

buying time with verbal tics like uh and ah

fidgeting at odd moments

More about nonverbal clues to deception here:

http://people.howstuffworks.com/lying2.htm

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

One big reason Kate also needs therapy is to understand how to respond appropriately IF the kids are asking about dating. It's not appropriate to encourage it and giggle about it on extra. She needs to say honey it's so thoughtful you're concerned about me but you dont need to worry about me. Mommy is happy and focused on you and let's talk about things important to you like school and friends.

Once a Viewer said...

librarylady: thanks for the link...I guess!

Kate is horrible to listen to and watch- agree, all the annoying facial grimaces and just the way she talks. She started to say her kids were 'avid' about her dating , then changed it. Everything she mentioned we know from Twitter.
she really lives a shallow life. She even hides behind the children in an interview.

Improbable Dreams said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 98

YES! *sustained applause*

Resident said...

Just watched the interview in the red dress. Same old same old. Still talking about the good old days on DWTS. How long ago was that?? You can't even call her a Has-Been. She is more like a Never-Was.

Sweet Tart said...

Heather - while some people may attend college to get a job, period -- that's not universally true. I will cite myself as an example.

I delayed going to college. After high school, I entered the work force, for an insurance company. I worked my way up from underling clerk, to assistant to a mid-level exec. The pay was decent, the benefits were good. But I felt dissatisfied and concerned that I would top out in my career path early. I had some money saved, and state colleges were not too expensive, so I applied and got accepted at a state college in California.

My major was liberal arts, with a minor in English Lit. I initially thought I might become a teacher, but then decided I did not have the proper temperament. I transferred to a poly tech university midway through, but kept my Liberal Arts major. While many of the classes were demanding, I loved college. I had so many great times, made so many wonderful friends. It's a way for young people to really learn some life skills for the first time - living on your own, learning how to do laundry, how to budget for groceries with your roommates, getting along with roommates (i.e., mom isn't gonna pick up after you anymore, so you better learn fast. Also, if you use the last of the toilet paper, you better put a fresh roll on or you will be yelled at, etc.)

Those college years opened my eyes to so many things - people of different backgrounds, different viewpoints, all finding a way to blend together. I look back fondly on those years as being some of the most carefree and fun of my young life.

As to debt - I have been setting aside money for my son's college education for several years. He is also enrolled in a high school program that will help him apply for scholarships, keep him on the college track in school, help him if he has trouble with a class, etc. He will also start working when he turns 16, and part of that money must be set aside for college. I also expect him to work during the summer months. In other words, while we may have to take out some loans, we're working to minimize the amount we must borrow. I don't want him coming out of college with crushing debt.

Again, I appreciate that you have a particular viewpoint re college. All I ask is that you accept that your viewpoint is one of many. While college for you may have been simply one more hurdle to jump in order to get a job, for many others, it was quite a pleasurable experience in and of itself. The contacts you can make while at college are also extremely beneficial when you enter whatever field you have chosen.

My father was the first in his family to attend college. He served 2 tours for Uncle Sam in Korea to help fund that education. His engineering degree helped him raise a family of 8. He still shares stories of his college days and laughs at the memories.

What's Next? said...

I've made bread both ways and you are absolutely correct. The bread machine is nothing more than measuring ingredients and pushing the right buttons. The truly homemade way takes a lot of time and work to turn out a loaf - there is no comparison really. I guess the closest comparison I can think of is washing clothes on an old wringer washer and hanging them out to dry versus using an automatic washer and clothes dryer.

Maggie said...

I think the Gosselin children will have every legal right to know with documents and contracts how much money was earned for each season of "Jon and Kate Plus Eight" and "Kate Plus Eight". Why not, they were part of the TV series. Kate won't be able to lie to them about that.

And the kids can estimate with near certainty how much Kate earned for her 3 books, DWTS, Health Tex (Walmart deal), Lane Furniture, K-mart lay-a-way deal, Spokesperson for Procter & Gamble's brandSaver coupon book, Grain Foods Foundation brown-bag luches partnership, all the TLC freebie, TV placement freebies, grifting cash from many church talks, speaker fees for Woman of Purpose conferences, other speaker fees at $2,500, People cover fees, tabloid interviews & photo fees, purported new BBB for running in SD, etc.

We wouldn't even mention the first year that they lived off the government and all the numerous companies that gave them big buck free stuff. And the $59,000 addition to their first home by that was given to them. And lastly the free tummy tuck.

Yes, Kate can lie and fool the general public about not being a multimillionaire but her eight children will know how much she has socked away.

AuntieAnn said...

She says Pam was on MY season, not that she was on Pam's season.
She runs for the 'alone time'. She should say MORE alone time, but that's been discussed.
And lest anyone forgets, she has to throw this dig in:

Being a single mom of eight is daunting, and it's something so many people in America are doing ON A SMALLER SCALE.

Yes, Kate. You are the only divorced woman in America with eight kids. We know that. No one has it tougher than you.

Her NPD is absolutely uncontrollable.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Funny I would say Kate is the one doing it on a smaller scale since she's the one with millions.

The Bitter End said...

Maggie said... 104
Yes, Kate can lie and fool the general public about not being a multimillionaire but her eight children will know how much she has socked away.
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Knowing about the money and getting some of it are two different things. Jon knows about it. He didn't make out too well. Katie will cut off contact with a percentage of her children over money. It's what she does.
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 98
One big reason Kate also needs therapy is to understand how to respond appropriately IF the kids are asking about dating. It's not appropriate to encourage it and giggle about it on extra.
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I agree with you. Think about this. Katie has no friends to talk about dating, nor much common sense. Her older daughters must be fascinated with their fathers dating life. It must come up. I don't hold out too much hope on the appropriateness of Katie's responses in general. I doubt Katie handles the dating situation better than any other issue.

Jumping In said...

For heaven's sake, my father died when I was young, and the thought of my mother dating was difficult for me and my siblings, we didn't want a replacement dad. When our mother did begin to date, it was painful for us as we did not see our mother in a role other than that of being a mother to us, that is how kids minds work I think.

I would suspect in a situation such as divorce, the hope is that one's parents will somehow reconcile and put the family back together. The very idea of Kate's kids
pushing her to date is utter nonsense. The only thing getting pushed her is Kate's sincere belief that she has something to offer the world. She is not "relatable" in
any way, and comes across as a desperate, mindless, egotistical twit.

There are many ways to meet a man without having a television show. Will someone sign her up at match.com!

Once a Viewer said...

I think most kids don't want their parents to break up or if they do, to reconcile. My dad died when I was young and no way did I want my mom to date! Of course as I grew much older I did, not wanting her to be lonely, but she never dated- spent her leisure time traveling, reading, with friends etc, said that chapter for her was closed early.

In the FW Whitney was so cute when she tried to make her parents join hands and hug or something. I think she was happy to have them together and wanted them to express their love for each other and herself, and feel secure in her family. Like what most kids want.(The earliest time I heard of their divorce was 2007- W would be about 16?)

I doubt the G kids really want their mom dating or know what that would entail. Even though they leech onto strangers for affection, sigh.

Ex Nurse said...

Buddy said...
Okay, I'm sorry, but after seeing the latest E interview, I am back to believing that Jon and Kate are working together to get her a show. She talks about how she would like to do a show about being a "single" mom of 8 kids, picking up where they left off
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Here is a quote from the Star article about Jon:
"While 37-year-old Kate is keen to stay in the spotlight with a new dating show that will see her traveling around the country looking for Mr. Right, Jon doesn't support her new career aspirations.

"I think this is completely ridiculous! We have eight children and they need us, she is putting reality TV and dating in front of the kids who need to have their mother," he told Star.

"Why not date the old fashioned way?" asked Jon, who has found love with mother-of-three, Liz Jannetta. "I know I have a lot to be thankful for, but Kate's need to be famous is not one of them.".

 I really don't believe that Jon and Kate are cooking this up together. As we have seen, Jon is unpredictable and he certainly doesn't seem to have any kind of game plan.

Maggie said...

Kate doesn't want to date. She has been divorced for 2 years, eight months without one date that we know of. And she even said on Extra that her kids want her to date MORE than she wants to date. If she wanted to date of course she could find a way to do so without her traveling the country staring in her own TV dating show. But she is not interested in just dating.

The only reason she considering this dating show idea is because she is desperate. Desperate about disappearing from the public eye and not being a "celebrity" anymore. I think she misses the fame more the paycheck. Of course the paycheck wouldn't hurt but being a big nobody but a mediocre mother stuck in her house with 8 kids in rural PA is scaring the hell out of her.

She needs her audience; that is why she is living out her life on twitter. But twitter is only patching her "hole of need" until she can be back on TV.

Ex Nurse said...

Who in the world is goofing to watch a 'tasteful' dating show? The entire concept is trashy--what, exactly, is Kate's description of how it can be done tastefully?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

This dating show still seems like an idea grown in the garden of her mind ala Mr Rodgers. I don't understand why an "idea" is getting one iota of attention. Does Kate know all the pilot "ideas" out there?

Pro College said...

Anonymous said... 92
The greater issue I see is that college is supposed to make you ready to enter the workforce.

Most people don't take out thousands and thousands of dollars in loans just to "educate themselves." Smart people can educate themselves in a lifelong manner without ever paying a dime for it. But that approach does not make you employable.

People attend college so they can get a job. Period.

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No, people attend college for a variety of reasons. Getting a job certainly is a primary motivator, but it is not the sole reason as you are stating. Perhaps that is the only reason that you went to college, which is totally fine, but you're not in a position to speak for everyone else.

Sorry, but people do go to college to learn and it's not just folks getting a second degree as a "hobby." If what someone is looking for is a job (vs. a career), then a vocational school may be the better option. There is no reason that undergraduate education should be turned into vocational school when vocational schools already exist for those who choose that path. I had absolutely no idea what I wanted to do when I graduated from high school, so vocational school would have been a terrible option for me. I most definitely don't regret spending four years building foundational skills that have served me throughout my career while also learning just for the sake of learning. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

You clearly don't see the value in formal education, which is a totally legitimate opinion. What I don't understand is why you'd want to take that opportunity away from someone who does see the value by turning the post-secondary education system upside down.

Once a Viewer said...

Ex Nurse said... 112

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Exactly! I almost choked at the 'tasteful' part. When has Kate ever been tasteful about anything?
She would need a whole new wardrobe and her hair has got to go!

tate said...

I wonder if Kate watches the Bachelor--lol---and saw all of the attention that Emily Maynard got on the latest edition. Of course, she is 26 and very pretty and has money and a daughter. Kate is probably thinking in her pea sized, distorted brain that she is the equivalent of Emily Maynard and now SHE deserves a dating show that will take her all over Europe. I don't think so!!!!!!!!

Kate is a twit said...

Ex Nurse said... 112

Kate said she would do a dating show "if it was tasteful and well done, and something my kids could watch".

I doubt any network would be in the market for a dating show that 8 and 12 year old children could watch.

Keep dreamin' on, Kate. It ain't happening.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Watching Kate extra interview has killed my some of my brain cells....Um thanxs Kate

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

The fact that Kate thinks that a dating show, as long as it is tasteful, is appropriate for 8 and 12 year olds, is astounding. The last thing kids this age need to concern themselves with is adult romances.

chefsummer #Leh said...

The more she interviews the more painful it gets to watch her.


http://www.extratv.com/2012/08/08/kate-gosselin-on-dating-running-and-couponing/

Dmasy said...

TASTEFUL...Kate in a short dress flirting. Kate being coy. Kate going in for the kill/kiss. Kate talking on and on about herself while a glassy eyed guy checks out the magic bra.

TASTEFUL...I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Maggie said...

Buddy did you mean the Extra interview when you said the E interview? Please don't tell me she did two interviews.

Maggie said...

Here is a Frontline interview that was done in September 1999 with Juanita.

pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/farmerswife/etc/chat.html

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Did Kate just tweet herself with the link to Extra and her interview?? She is getting so desperate! She probably thinks more hits, more attention, maybe Hollywood will take notice.

Damm, I fell for her trap! I shouldn't have viewed it.Grrrr

mama mia said...

Ex-nurse, I am in Canada and we have three distinct levels of nursing that are not interchangeable. The entry level is Licensed Practical Nurse, which I am guessing is Kate's level, this is a 1 year diploma program and the license does not permit the handling of needles, narcotics and a host of other nursing duties. It is limited to basic bedside patient care. It pays $15 an hour to start. A Registered Nurse is a 2-4 year program, if you choose the 2 year you are very limited in where you can work, as most hospitals want you have to have the Bachelor of Science in Nursing degree, which is 4 years. Regardless, you are trained to push needles and perform all the nursing functions. Those with degrees earn the most money and have more career opportunities, they can move into pharmacy, psychiatry, social work, etc.
I think it is a disservice to LPNs to give them the title of 'nurse' when their training and duties don't fill that role. That to me is the cause of the strife and conflict. It is not like they are pretending to be nurses, as say a security guard might do pretending to be a cop, it is that the word nurse has vastly different meanings in this application.
I hope that explains things better. I am not slagging on nurses or diploma programs,well I am to the extent that if one wanted to get in quickly with the least amount of icky needle poking, they would choose the diploma program.

Summerwind said...

I doubt any network would be in the market for a dating show that 8 and 12 year old children could watch.

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You got that right! What they want is a couple to share a fantasy suite and have a hot make-out session on the beach somewhere in the Caribbean. Didn't a dating show just get cancelled after a only two episodes? What happened to that dating show on Fox, The Choice? Is it still alive?

Once a Viewer said...

But Kate apparently ran dialysis machines? I think she has a 2-3 yr hospital diploma RN.

I trained in Canada and as I posted earlier, then there were no LPNs, just RNs, RNAs, and NAs- the latter two being aides to nurses, no meds, injections, IVs, lines etc. I asked earlier also why my LPN friend in the US can be charge nurse and do meds and procedures like any RN? It's confusing!

Maggie said...

Did this Extra interview run on TV? It is strange because a person is not interviewing her. It sounds like they told her to talk about herself for 3 minutes while looking into a camera. I am curious if this ran on TV was there was an interviewer.

Once a Viewer said...

Maggie said... 123
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Thanks Maggie. Juanita seemed very humble and sweet about the people she met. Her talks and tour did not go to her head nor is she looking for a new reality show...so in 1999 the B's were still together.

(Odd format for an interview)

Mel said...

I hate how she looks around at the people off-camera all the time. Are you watching me? Do you see how "cute" I'm being? Aren't I just the cutest? The cleverest?

And all Valley Girl language. Goodness!

Like, I can't put it on my like to-do list. Like, it's not to-doable. Like, my um like...

InternetWarrors said...

I'm curious how Kate's supporters will feel when the truth about her mothering is revealed by the children. Will they actually turn against a Gosselin child and do anything in thier power to ruin that kid's life? I ask because these women, and I use that term very lightly, think that Kate Gosselin is the end all and be all of great people.

Hopefully, the Gosselin children will be safe from the likes of those disgusting people when they are older. Those fans are the creepiest of the creepy and, IN MY OPIONION, are on the border of pedophilia with thier interest in the Gosselin children.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I think they'll turn on the kids for sure. Ungrateful, spoiled kids. This is exactly how Joan Crawfords fans reacted even though there were witnesses to the abuse.

Let's throw tomatoes said...

Mama Mia that sounds like California. Kate would be a LVN, a Lincense Vocational Nurse, in California . You can get that diploma in a Junior college or a vocational school.An RN is a four year degree . My neighbor was a surgical RN that assisted doctors during surgery and she had an additional degree!
But every state is different , so maybe she is an RN, I still wouldn't go to her for an ingrown toenail! Not because of her degree but because she is an idiot !

I worry when she gives medical advice to her tweeter fans! It really is scarey!

Kate is Krazy said...

I wonder what the fan who has Alexis Faith tattooed on her arm will do!

Kate is a twit said...

I agree that they'll turn on the kids, but they will also blame Jon and say that he turned the kids against her.

anger issues kate said...

You know, when Kate did that, pool CC blog, Kate forgot to mention knowing or learning CPR. And all the safety equiptment you should have to be a good pool owner. I wonder if Kate knows CPR? She sure did not know much first aid, for that poor chicken or the dog, or even the kids. I would hate to be part of her household and get injured. I probably would almost die before she got off twitter or her phone or off her ass.

Dmasy said...

Let's give her some credit. So far today she hasn't tweeted every little thing that she and the children happened to do. I realize the day isn't over yet, but so far so private.

mama mia said...

Once a Viewer, that is what I am talking about, a hospital cleaner could say they work in the Dialysis unit and the Labour and Delivery Unit and they wouldn't be lying. I would suspect Kate's job was printing and filing the reports, something a ward clerk would do here, I can't see her having the skill set to perform Dialysis.

ProudPammy said...

I think most nurses have a calling. They want to help people. Usually, these same people help their family members, friends, neighbors and community. It takes a special person to be a health care proffesional ... USUALLY.

Then their is Kate. I believe she only became a nurse to find out more about fertility drugs. She doesn't have a nurturing bone in her body.

All the different degrees, classes, certificates, etc. don't mean a damn thing if you have a heart of stone. Kate and "nurse" should not be spoken in the same sentance. She was not a nurse. She may have passed classes, had the job and collected a paycheck but she was not and will never be an actual NURSE.

anger issues kate said...

Just watched the extra interview, if you can call it that. That was a stop-start interview. What did Kate do to her face, was it lighting or did Kate do something or was it the makeup: from just under her nose to her chin, her skin was lighter? It looked weird. Yes, her interview was painful to sit through, what a load of BS. Kate does talk like a teen or early 20 something. She does not talk like an 37 year old.

Fools In Love said...

@139: Then their is Kate. I believe she only became a nurse to find out more about fertility drugs. She doesn't have a nurturing bone in her body.

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It's also possible that she became a nurse to find a husband who was a doctor.

pamela said...

If Kate gets a dating show will her bodyguard go on the dates? ROTFLMAO

pamela said...

If Kate marries a Dr. does the body guard go too?

Once a Viewer said...

A very good ( despite source) article and video of Dogaru conjoined twin girls ( joined at the head, age 7)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3880012/New-hope-for-conjoined-twins.html

Anger issues: excellent points about CPR & safety equipment.

dancingqueen said...

No tweets cuz she isn't around the kiddies today. Alone with steve probs

Rhymes with Witch said...

All the different degrees, classes, certificates, etc. don't mean a
damn thing if you have a heart of stone. Kate and "nurse" should not
be spoken in the same sentence. She was not a nurse. She may have
passed classes, had the job and collected a paycheck but she was not
and will never be an actual NURSE. 139

AMEN.

A Mom said...

Don't think Kate wants a dating show, but watched Jenny McCarthy host a dating show; "love in the wild" and feels she can do that too!

Mrs. Malaprop said...

Starz22, I'm the one with stinky cat poo! (Did I just type that?) What you said is very interesting. I wonder if our little guy has the same problem.
Readerlady, after what you said about starving cat syndrome plus considering his stinky poo,I'm wondering just how long he went without food. He was super hungry and thirsty when he first got here. He put one tiny paw in our great big water bowl for the dogs and took a long drink.

AuntieAnn said...

I think one thing that might bring Kate Gosselin to terms with her mental illness would be for someone to publicly expose her actual financial status... To slap the sum total of her net worth on the cover of a reputable magazine and underneath that, quote every statement she's ever made about being poor...
Would she think about getting therapy then? Would she understand that money is not the answer to her problems. Would she understand that dating her is not "to-do-able" because she has eight kids, but because no one wants to date a greedy, narcissistic, ball-busting shrew who's on the prowl for a wealthy, fulltime man-servant.

And that's another thing. She's got to stop going on these shows and blaming her kids for being unable to find someone to date. You can bet your bippy that's what she tells her children. That should make them feel real good about themselves.

She doesn't comprehend how sick she is.

Silimom said...

Once A Viewer - I agree with your mom. If my DH passes away, I don't think I would actively look for someone. The poor man would have a lot to measure up to because I think I found my soulmate on the first try.

And if for some reason I did decide to try the dating game again, I wouldn't do it until my my youngest kid was in college and she's 7 now.

anger issues kate said...

Once a viewer: there have been so many drownings lately, and rip-currents, beside shark attacks. I do hope Kate came off her life style cloud and pays attention to the water reports, oh, wait I forgot that is PB job. Remember the tups birthday, PB had to tell Kate to move the kids indoor, cause a storm was coming, and Kate stood there, with her finger up her but, and did not know what to do. I don't know, the sky is dark, it lighting, and thundering, and starting to rain, duh!

wayward said...

MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 You looked absolutely stunning in the interview. Ur eyes sparkle so much when you smile. Stay happy & positive Always & forever 34 minutes ago
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Sheesh get a room already.

Kate is showing an "Extra" clip through her twitter because she can't get anyone else to answer or return her calls. Cough cough :hasbeen: cough cough.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Wowser said... 82
Uggghh...I hate listening to her on interviews!! Talk about BEGGING to be back on tv!!! "ummmmm you know it's been a year since our show and we were on for so many years and ummm we would love to continue where we left off because ummm people want to umm see what has been going on" yadadayada. Ummm...hey Kate....no one needs to catch up because you tweet and advertise your whole freakin life!! " ummmm I am shopping..come take pictures! Ummm I am pumping gas in hooker heels, come take pictures. Ummm my dog barfed, here's a picture ..., omg I just did the biggest fart! Watch on ET tonight at 7:30 ". No one has MISSED anything and I cannot believe that any network would even consider doing any show with her on it. I think if Gosselinbook Gets published, it will be the final nail in her coffin. I think that's why she is trying so hard to get a contract in place BEFORE it comes out. Our only hope is that the book comes out first.
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You made me laugh with all of this.

anger issues kate said...

Wayward: that's cause very few even knew she did an interview. If you type KG in , the interview does not come up on the KG news.

librarylady said...

I doubt if she really WANTS a dating show. She's to the point where she thinks that's the only way to stay on the D list. Or, more accurately, get back on it.

She is, of course, exaggerating or lying about the kids talking about dating. As a former teacher of 8 yr olds, believe me, this is NOT something they focus on, lol. If the kids are saying ANYTHING about dating, it's because she's told them that's how they might be able to get back on tv again. Since she's apparently made them think that's the only way they can have a life.

That's just a badddd interview. If I were her, I wouldn't be twittering it around.

Mrs. Malaprop said...

The FAKE Mrs. Malaprop said... 181
lock, stock & barrow.

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Holy malapropism! LOL Good one! What's a barrow?
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I, the original Mrs. Malaprop did NOT contribute this. Readerlady, I saw your reply to me about a barrow and thought, Huh? Someone helped herself to my user name.

anger issues kate said...

Wayward: that interview, according to the KG news, has only been available for 5 hours, Kate did that interview, last friday, in NYC. So far nobody has tweeted or said anything about Extra TV, as to seeing it on TV. This might be just an online thing.

wayward said...

Fools In Love said... 141
@139: Then their is Kate. I believe she only became a nurse to find out more about fertility drugs. She doesn't have a nurturing bone in her body.

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It's also possible that she became a nurse to find a husband who was a doctor.
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I 100% agree with this. I have always thought Kate became a registered nurse soley to snag a doctor. When this didn't work, since most men's cajones jump into their stomach cavities when they hear her whiny, droning voice and eardrum shattering cackle, marrying the SON of a doctor was plan B. Following by manipulating that thar science society created, for fame and profit.

ProudPammy said...

I find this pathetic fame-whore intolerable and I'm assuming those that worship her are also very difficult to live with.

I wonder if they tell their friends, families, neighbors, co-workers, pastors, etc that they enjoy watching children cry and poo? I wonder if they have ANY shame whatsoever.

Kate Gosselin is the WORST MOTHER that ever appeared on TV and they LOVE HER. I'd hate to be a kid of a sheep. I wonder if they wash their kids clothes or make them wear dirty clothing because Kate says it's okay.

Do they spank their children in front of neighbors? Do they ignore their kids to tweet (we KNOW the answer to that) and, if given the chance, we KNOW they'd exploit the hell out of their kids if given the chance. One already does. God forbid an adult support their own family.

Clare said...

Hopefully, the Gosselin children will be safe from the likes of those disgusting people when they are older. Those fans are the creepiest of the creepy and, IN MY OPIONION, are on the border of pedophilia with thier interest in the Gosselin children.

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Just so we are clear here, it was not the FANS who were looking at the kids on the beach with a magnifying glass or blowing the picture up 100Xs!

Anonymous said...

Ok, so I just watched "the Farmer's Wife" after initially having no desire to see a documentary about a farm family- but the posts by you guys sounded so interesting, I decided to give it a go. Wow! Great program :)
I found myself riveted to their story. I was rooting for Juanita and Darrell the entire time. I felt proud when Juanita got her degree. This was real drama, not some made for TV drama in today's reality programs.
Awesome program.

ProudPammy said...

Clare, you are right. The fans wouldn't enlarge them except to print them out, post them all over their homes and probably pray and kiss the pictures on an hourly basis.

Wouldn't that creep you out if it was YOUR kids being ogled and looked at? EITHER SIDE? Wouldn't YOU want to protect your children from HATERS eyes as wells as fans drooling eyes?

Not if you are Kate. Publicity is publicity is publicity. SO WHAT if a KNOWN child pornographer had footage of her children in various states of undress. SO WHAT! She made lots of money and the kids got VACATIONS!

I'm sure the children will be thrilled to know their images have been in the hands of known sexual predators because MOMMY didn't protect them.

Yeah, post more pictures Kate. Nambla is waiting.

Dmasy said...

Oops. I gave her credit just a tad too soon. We know what they are having for dinner.

wayward said...

anger issues kate said... 157
Wayward: that interview, according to the KG news, has only been available for 5 hours, Kate did that interview, last friday, in NYC. So far nobody has tweeted or said anything about Extra TV, as to seeing it on TV. This might be just an online thing.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Oooooo, I thought someone said it was from Extra. So did she get some flunky at a TV news station to tape it?

Really.... how sad and pitiful she is, begging and hinting a full year after getting canned, to get back on TV. {Clap clap} Hellllllo! Kate? You're not back on TV because you're ratings poison and have a likability score of -23. Just sayin'

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I agree with the marry a doctor theory. When none of those suckers fell for that she went to plan B., marry a dentist's son.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

She is, of course, exaggerating or lying about the kids talking about dating. As a former teacher of 8 yr olds, believe me, this is NOT something they focus on, lol.

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I agree. Eight year olds generally aren't interested in their parents period. At that age, your parents are just sort of your parents. You don't really see them as people with their own lives, thoughts, feelings. They are there to feed and clothe and provide for you and your needs, and they are great to snuggle with and you usually take comfort in them and love them, but beyond that, that's it.

Kids that age don't usually sit around pondering their parents' dating lives much less bring this up all the time at dinner. They're not old enough to appreciate that their parents are their own independent people. Their world is still very self-centered.

When Kate lies about the kids, she ought to pick up a psychology textbook first.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Hey guess what I'm watching tonight. Country with Jessica Lang. Who was it who recommended that? I'm just so in the mood for it after revisiting The Farmer's Wife. Hope it's good.

Butterfly I'm glad you pointed you normally you wouldn't be interested in a doc about farming. Me neither. But the universal truths of that documentary transcend farming. It could be any family struggling in any of many areas.

Did you see in Juanita's interview where they asked her about all the accolades she was getting, how humble she was? She said she didn't understand it and thought it was all exaggerated.

No Juanita, it wasn't exaggerated. You were a good mother, a good wife, and a strong person and someone we admire.

Wait until you see part 2 where she goes in, without Darel, to negotiate with their toughest creditor. 28 years old.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Oh contrast that with Kate. Sheeple says Kate you're a great mother and person.

RETWEET OH WELL THANK YOU THANK YOU JUST DOING MY BEST RETWEET AGAIN!!!!!!

bee said...

This dating show seems like a pipe dream. I watch all of the bachelor shows and I do not want to watch a 37 yr go around the country on boring dates. Those of us who watch these shows want conflict, drama and some crazy fun things to happen and I do not see her doing or being that at all. It would be way too boring. I will be shocked it this happens. It also sounded like she was up for a show but has not signed on with anyone. Still fishing....

Ex Nurse said...

Mama Mia...
you not correct about Kate's training. She has a Registered Nurse that had to past the exact same exam as BSN 4 year programs--your description of the educational requirements in Canada are the same as the US. An LPN is a one year program. They can perform most of the same functions as RNs, including meds, and many basic procedures such as catheters and starting IVs. however, it is unlikely that they could rise to a charge position in a specialty unit because of the shorter training they receive. In the hospital I worked in, the RNs were responsible for 6-12 patients in a shift. LPNs and Nurses Aides were their assistance.

The clinical training for an RN is 2-3 times longer than an LPN. A BSN program may actually receive less hands on hours in training on the floor, but more hours in the humanities and general education courses. The nursing academic courses in physiology, microbiology, chemistry, pharmacology etc are virtually identical, regardless of the path to the RN, whether 2 year, 3 year or BSN. They all culminate in the same certification exam.

As to her role in dialysis, it would never happen that a paper shuffler would be paid an RN salary.

Believe it or not--I don t care. but, the facts don't lie. According to public records, Kate meets all requirements for active status as an RN--including continuing education credits.

This is the 3rd or 4th round of this discussion on this topic!

Silimom said...

I don't think that it's out of the realm of possibility that the kids ask her regularly about dating. Jon has repeatedly dated since he and Kate broke up. It's perfectly normal, IMO, for the kids to ask "Mom, what about you?"

I wouldn't worry about Kate getting a dating show but who knows? I never would have thought Honey Boo-Boo child would have gotten a show or half the reality shows that are out there for that matter. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Jon got a new show.

Improbable Dreams said...

Now why do you think she'd add Fig and Olive to this reply?

Flirting with the paparazzi? Nahhhh...


XXXXX @Kateplusmy8 @figandolive_nyc Being nosy about "beach". How about hint on the body of water --> Gulf, Pacific, Atlantic, Great Lakes, other

XXXXXX @figandolive_nyc lol, no! :)

NT said...

Fish in paper for dinner,rice pilaf,grilled onions? I bet she has a chef there. She's not that talented.

Griftopia said...

AuntieAnn said... 105

And lest anyone forgets, she has to throw this dig in:
Being a single mom of eight is daunting, and it's something so many people in America are doing ON A SMALLER SCALE.

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When is someone going to call Kate out on her constantly misrepresenting herself as a "single mom." Single moms don't share custody of their kids with their ex-husbands. Single moms raise their kids *alone* (that's where the "single" part comes in, Kate). Kate is a divorced mother who shares custody of her kids with her ex.

I also take issue with her "on a smaller scale" remark. Her life is "daunting"? Really??? Living in a huge home, with multiple cars, regular spa treatments, a pool, service people to clean and care for her property, nannies and babysitters, a "bodyguard" (cough, gag), oh, and NO JOB. What, pray tell, could possibly be "daunting" about that????? It's the *real* single moms who are actually doing it on a much larger scale, as many (if not most) are struggling to support their kids. Kate has been handed everything since the day those kids were born (probably before that, even). Even if she were a legitimate single mother, she's still not your typical single mother (i.e., the ones who have to pay their own bills, buy their own things (rather than have the steady stream of freebies Kate has grifted for years), live in mediocre homes, work full-time (sometimes at more than one job), etc. etc.

As for the dating show, the whole thing has such an ick factor to me. She'd be paid to find a boyfriend on national TV. The whole premise is so gross on multiple levels. She's got eight kids to consider, who despite what she says are likely *not* asking when she'll date again. My parents divorced when I was 5, and my dad (who had sole custody of us) began dating when I was 7. It. freaked. me. out. I would lie awake all night until I heard his car pull back into the driveway. My childish, post-divorce traumatized 7-year-old brain was not thinking about his social life, or him moving on. I was terrified that he wouldn't come home. I can't speak for all kids of divorce, but I'd bet good money that most of the young ones do NOT hope their parents will start dating.

My guess is that the dating show is her handlers’ final scrapings of the chum bucket in trying to find some – ANY – show that Kate could pull off. When you consider the pile of opportunities she’s squandered and/or failed miserably at, they really didn’t have many choices left. I think Playboy is when you finally exhaust all possibilities at a chance in Hollywood, and Kate is teetering dangerously close to that point. But, as all the d-listers who have posed claim, “It’s done tastefully.” Snark.

Dmasy said...

Administrator....enjoy Country. Warning = sad. The scene where she is eating a homemade cookie and sorting through papers to find a significant one rings 100% real. Please give us your review.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Grifttopia, Amen.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say by very virtue of the fact that you have an iPhone, you have a really, really good chance of not having a daunting life. Like, at all.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Clare said...Just so we are clear here, it was not the FANS who were looking at the kids on the beach with a magnifying glass or blowing the picture up 100Xs!
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That was me, Clare and I explained in simple English for anyone with the bare minimum of reading comprehensions skills to understand,(that would be sheeple) that I enlarged it to confirm that one of the kids did NOT have blonde hair to clarify what I believe was a mistaken identification.

Your comment does, however, make a better point, and that is if Kate didn't tweet pictures of her kids no one, for any reason whatsoever, would be looking or talking about them regularly. But I bet that fact will zing right over your head as well.

And last but not least are you concerned about all the FANS that continually ask Kate for pictures of her kids? If so it didn't come across in your comment.

SeeSaw said...

Had to break down and watch the Extra interview. Poor Kate. She wants a personality so badly she stole one ....... from a 13-year-old girl. Yuck. Just yuck.
Someone upthread said "Valley Girl." Yes, like totally.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Because Jon has a significant other they may have asked once or twice. But often, no, I don't buy it happens all that often. Kids that age have at most a passing question about their parents then it's back to their own business.

Kate should have shut it down right there. Daddy is choosing to date people and that's okay, I am choosing not to and that's okay too, but either way you don't need to worry about either me or Daddy. End of story. If it persists, it's time to get some therapy.

gotyournumberKate said...

Per the Extra interview.....if Kate hasn't dated because she doesn't have the time, how is she going to have the time for a dating show?

Amilees said...

BRAVO, Griftopia.
She is NOT A SINGLE MOTHER.

My sister is a single mother of 5 kids. Her husband left them and "poof" is nowhere to be found. She works two jobs and hasn't had her nails done in years (except for my wedding when I paid for it).

She never complains. She works, feeds the kids, plays with them, dresses them impeccably from the Salvation Army and TALKS TO THEM.

She doesn't have internet and her children are fine with that because she spends time with them when she can. Movie night doesn't mean they line up on a peice of tape. They actually all climb in bed with her and they "camp out" and have little parties at home.

The kids don't have a dad. They have one parent. HENCE, she is a SINGLE MOM.

Kate is a divorced mother with HALF custody. Sheesh, I think even unfit mothers usually have more custody than THAT.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Bee, agree, dating shows are so old and have been done over and over. TLC did have a benign dating show I think called A Dating Story, a long while back. The only dating shows people really want to see these days have really got to ramp up the sex and drama like the Bachelor.

There is no market period for a tasteful dating show. There is but a very tiny market left for a un-tasteful dating show and that slot is already taken by the Bachelor.

NT said...

Milo just tweeted to goodytwoshoes that she knows where Kate is but won't tell because Kate wants a pap free vacay. Good Grief!!

Widowed Young said...

Silimom-that is how I feel too. My husband had a sudden stroke 5 years ago-he rode his bicycle 25 miles to work on Thursday, had a massive stroke on Friday and after all the organ donation stuff was taken off life support and died on Saturday. He was 44, I was 40 and we have 4 children-at the time they were 5 (daughter), 10 (daughter), 13 (son) and 15 (daughter). The older 2 are not up for me dating or remarrying at all-very adament against it. The younger 2 are a little more open now that is has been 5 years and their memories are a little less intact as time goes on.

It is hard for me-they are the reason I get out of bed each day. We had been together for 20 years-my whole adult life and he was my soulmate. Even now it is hard to think about feeling that way about someone else. I am glad I had kids 10 years apart but I will still only be 52 by the time the last one graduates.

The crazy thing is that I have lived in the Pacific Northwest my whole life. I am sooooo ready to pack up the kids and move away from family and friends. I feel like I need a complete change and new start-there are so many memories here-both good and bad. I was thinking Arizona-think that would be enough of a change?

Kate is a twit said...

Improbable Dreams said... 172
Now why do you think she'd add Fig and Olive to this reply?

The tweeter who asked that question included fig and olive in her tweet, so Kate included it in hers. The tweeter was replying to Kate's tweet:

Kate Gosselin‏@Kateplusmy8
Dinner at the beach... My version of @figandolive_nyc 'fish in paper', rice pilaf and grilled onion! Wow. Yum. Gotta go eat. I'm hungry! :)

At least Kate finally got F&O's tweet handle correct. I guess F&O is the sponsor of this latest twittersode.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

You know one thing I was told once is that TLC was willing at one point to do a new show about Kate, Jon and the divorce. It was called I think Homegrown? Working title maybe. Ironically Kate was the one who passed on it, holding out for something that starred her, which she eventually got in Kate Plus 8. What's ironic is I bet Homegrown would have lasted a lot longer than Kate Plus 8 because of the Jon factor. Bet she's kicking herself now.

tate said...

She is so lame! Now she is tweeting about her version of "fish in paper" like Fig and Olive. OMG. That is the only restaurant in NYC that she knows and she thinks she is a star because she has been there. give me a break. She sounds like such a desperate wanna be.

And who in the world thinks it would be a good idea to be on a dating show and have your 8 and 12 year old children watch the show??? Who thinks like this? Those kids have a dad whom they love. Might it not be a little traumatic to see your floozy mom prancing all around with strange men, perhaps kissing, embracing, etc.? Just ick. I don't believe for one minute that the kids even ask about Kate and dating. That is all Kate. She just thinks she'll get more publicity if she frames it like her darling little cherubs want her to find a new husband/daddy. Not buying it.

If Kate would ever find anyone to date (I can't even imagine), her children should not even be meeting this person until the relationship gets very serious. There is no way they need to see the spectacle that Kate would be on tv with a line of fame hungry men looking for their 15 minutes.

OrangeCrush said...

Oh yum, a fig and olive style dinner at the shore. Does not sound too kid friendly, tho, so a) who's really cooking? And b) who is she cooking for? Someone besides Kate I think, and the same someone who is probably grocery shopping, too. I mean, c'cmon she has posted ad nauseum all summer pics of 'her' company chicken and burgers.

I can't comment on the Extra garbage, oh wait, i just did. Once again Katie demonstrates her complete lack of comfort in front of a camera.

It's hot here, and we have had a few earthquake jolts too. Popsicles for dinner sound good to me.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I don't believe for a second Kate would tell Milo where she is going. Or any fan. Even Kate isn't that dumb.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

NT said... 183
Milo just tweeted to goodytwoshoes that she knows where Kate is but won't tell because Kate wants a pap free vacay. Good Grief!!
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Milo also tweeted (hinted) that Kate is in the South which is pretty much what I said earlier somewhere. Perhaps the tweet from someone in Alabama about her car getting serviced was not mistaken identify after all.

‏@MiloandJack
@Kateplusmy8 How's the weather there? U gettin any "pop up" thundershowers? #happensalotinthesouth. No mind...sun will come back out! :)

She knows but won't tell. LOLOL! Why not just say nothing, Milo or do you think you're impressing Kate's fans by having "inside information?"

Kate is a twit said...

One of the sheeples biggest complaints about Jon was how he brought Ellen, and now Liz, to soon into his relationship with the children. They also put down Jon for doing a video interview with Liz, and also for having a picture taken with Liz and her kids and his kids.

If Kate does a dating show, which she expects her kids to watch-how is that any different? They'll see Mommy with men who are strangers to them-and that's supposed to be a good thing?

Improbable Dreams said...

Orange Crush said...188

It's hot here, and we have had a few earthquake jolts too. Popsicles for dinner sound good to me.
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Same here. Shake, rattle and roll, last night and today. Nothing serious, but I really do need to put together a disaster preparedness kit.

mama mia said...

Why does a dating show starring Kate make me so queasy? The dancing was funny as heck, side splitting hilarity watching her do the Jive with Tony, but can you see her as the seductress being all coy with some guy about when he is finally going to get his first kiss? Ewwwwwww. She disgusts me. To the point that the most gorgeous man on the planet set next to her would also likely revolt me just being near her. Is that weird?

Ex Nurse said...

Let's throw tomatoes said... 133
Mama Mia that sounds like California. Kate would be a LVN, a Lincense Vocational Nurse, in California . You can get that diploma in a Junior college or a vocational school.An RN is a four year degree . My neighbor was a surgical RN that assisted doctors during surgery and she had an additional degree!
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This not accurate. there are several community colleges listed on the state website, which offers a 2 year associate degree which qualifies for board certification. That is all that is required There are also several additional advanced certifications that can be earned, in addition to the RN certification.

Since nursing board requirements are set by a national governing board, not state, it is unlikely that a state can banish the 2year and 3 year programs until it is done on the national level. If and when this is done, nurses who have been certified will certainly be grandfathered in--meaning, the only ones affected will be new nursing students. As I said, this has been debated for at least 30 years. Hiring trends may favor a BSN, but that is a different matter.

I understand that all of the distinctions may be confusing. If someone is going to make a claim, then at least verify it. t took me all of 30 seconds to refute this. there is nothing quick or easy about getting certified as an RN. Kate did it. Get used to it!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

If Kate does a dating show, which she expects her kids to watch-how is that any different? They'll see Mommy with men who are strangers to them-and that's supposed to be a good thing?


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It's different. It's WORSE. She would be exploiting her dating life for a TV show. Jon never did that. And yes the hypocrisy has not escaped us and really isn't discussed often enough.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Who in the hell wants to see Kate Gosselin kiss/make out with multiple men on TV/dating show?

I for one don't and I'm very sure the kids won't either.

Summerwind said...

I, the original Mrs. Malaprop did NOT contribute this. Readerlady, I saw your reply to me about a barrow and thought, Huh? Someone helped herself to my user name.

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I believe that the original post came from Anger Issues, 168 ("lock, stock and barrow") and then a Mrs. Malaprop replied with "Holy Malaproprism..."

Who is using your name, and how can we tell if it's coming from Mrs. Malaprop whose hubby is Dr. Malaprop, both of whom have a new son named Moses?" :)

Kate is a Witch said...

Admin, I mentioned Country! I'm so excited you're watching it. I have it on DVD. It's soooooo well done. You'll see why Juanita kept reminding me of Jessica Lange's character. It's uncanny. Even the hairstyle, everything.

Now I'm going to have to re-watch it. Ug, it's so good.

readerlady said...

I don't believe the kids are encouraging KK to date, either. The twins might gently tease her a bit about it, since girls that age are beginning to be aware of romantic love and dating,etc., but I doubt the younger kids are even aware of it yet. I was a grown woman, living on my own, when my father died and it was difficult to come to grips with the idea of my mother dating or even, perhaps, marrying again. I hope that if she had, I'd have been supportive, but she never did.

I don't understand KK's concept of "it's my money" when Jon was the one staying home, caring for the kids and the house, enabling her lifestyle, either. If the situation were reversed, the man would be considered a greedy monster for discounting his wife's contribution to the family. KK certainly never had any difficulty considering the money JON inherited from his dad as "OUR money".

Re college costs -- When I was born, my father took out an insurance policy which would mature when I turned 18. At the time he took it out, it would have more than covered the cost for a college education. When it matured, it provided enough money to cover 1 semester of tuition/room/board.

readerlady said...

Drat! Hit publish too soon again! Senior moment, LOL.

Once a Viewer -- One of my "Kate-ism" pet peeves is the way she tweets "yum!" every time she describes food she's prepared. Particularly since most of the time it sounds and looks disgusting.

Kate is a Witch said...

I only see Kate's tweets here, at the top of the page, but I am literally laughing at how many times she has tweeted the word "beach." she strikes me as so desperate and such a wannabe.

SeeSaw said...

Still can't imagine Kate dating even for TV. I'm sure if any hanky panky was involved she'd have to tape big plastic trash bags over the bed first.
Sorry to be crude, but my DH said he wouldn't even poke her with a stick.

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