We're a little late with our final Farmer's Wife post due to some other Kate-ish news coming up, but better late than never!
Realitytvkids.com will be organizing an official summer "book club" screening of The Farmer's Wife. Watch Part 3 this week and discuss it as you go with all the interesting folks here. If you missed Part 1 it can be found here and Part 2 here.
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| Audrey, Abby, Whitney and Juanita, 1996. |
David Sutherland never intended to find a woman like Juanita. However when he did, he didn't succumb to the temptation to write the script for her, give her labels, define her. For three years, he stepped aside and let Juanita just be Juanita. What resulted was not just a beautiful story of a wife's devotion to her husband and one woman's strength in incredible adversity, but a poinant portrait of motherhood. Juanita listened to her children, was there for them as much as she could be, worked hard to improve their situation and give them a better life, and always showered them with positivity and love.
In part three, Juanita takes her family's destiny into her own hands by furthering her education and getting a job in crop insurance. Due to her hard work from the ground up, the family's hard times finally seem to turn around as this wonderful documentary comes to a close. Today, although Juanita is divorced and no longer lives on a farm, she reportedly still works in the farming sector on the business side, helping out the farmers of Nebraska. Darrel reportedly still lives and works on the same farm featured in the documentary.
Reality T.V. today loves to "define" characters. Kate is the "mother of 8," and has made a career out of this definition. We prefer authenticity, which Sutherland was lucky to find in a little town in Nebraska in 1995.
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| Whitney, Audrey, Juanita and Abby, on a family trip to Mexico, 2009. |
1688 sediments (sic) from readers:
«Oldest ‹Older 1401 – 1600 of 1688 Newer› Newest»Name, 193 -- you asked ME, "... Instead you spend your time pointing out the flaws of a former reality TV star that you do not agree with. How is that a "better" use of time?"
I think that is a fair question. I came here (originally) because I watched the Gosselin episodes and more and more I was becoming appalled. I googled for other opinions. I would think that is how most of us stumbled on this site.
Since that first visit, Kate has done some outrageous things that provoked my desire to add my thoughts to the comments of other women with similar opinions.
Lately I would say that Kate is positively boring.
I am here for the OT and to stay connected with some "personalities" I enjoy and respect. And, of course, there is the occasional party I would not want to miss. I have read some great books, gotten some holistic advice, and tried some ethnic recipes ... all due to this charming blog.
To those who have shared non-identifying personal stories -- I have cared and whispered some prayers and rejoiced at positive outcomes.
My hubby teases me about my Kate connection.
My laptop is convenient in my life and I check in (most times with morning coffee in hand) and get a good laugh from Auntie Ann.
This blog is a pleasure. It is a break from yard work and laundry and etc.
I have never participated in another blog site. Facebook is different, I think. Maybe I would like another format -- I just don't have the time to find one and get attached.
Sorry for the longish answer, but you did ask.
I used to post opposing viewpoints on "fan" blogs (as SchmeckyGirl).
However, I didn't go there as a "hater" posting on a "fan blog."
The first blog I used to post on when I enjoyed watching the show and then continued to post there after I became against it. Once my opinion was no longer welcome there I left. Never looked back, although I still respect the blog owner.
The other blog I was INVITED to post on when it was first created as a place for BOTH sides to RESPECTFULLY discuss/debate the Gosselins. I was pretty much the only regular poster there that was not a Kate fan, although others came and went. They really couldn't handle it without getting ugly and personal. The blog owner couldn't control her posters and chose not to once they became "friends" to her. Once it got to that point I chose to leave. No one wanted to do anything other than defend their right to support Kate and attack those that didn't. They could never give valid arguments for their support of her, other than the general "she's a mom, they're her kids," etc. My favorite reason given (and pretty much the only non-general one) was that they loved her shoes. At least she was honest. I gave her credit for that.
I enjoyed the debates about Kate. If someone said Kate was a good mom and loved her children, I would give examples of the "unloving" things she did. They couldn't debate them so they'd change to personal attacks. It never failed.
Now if you try to reason with or debate with someone on Twitter you are called a "hater" or a "bully" by them and others (including Kate). Regardless of whether or not you are respectful.
Anyway, my point is that I have no problem with people that want to come here and defend Kate but there just aren't any that give valid reasons and respond to any debates about those reasons. While some have respectfully posed their opposing opinions here I've yet to see anyone be able to defend Kate against our arguments.
One thing I've learned since blogging about the Gosselins is never discuss religion, politics or the Gosselins in mixed company. It gets ugly.
Why, why, why do people come here to question the blog when it is so clear it's a blog to discuss all things Gosselin (and some fun OT items too)? If you do not like this blog, why waste your time here? It makes no sense to me. I don't ever go to blogs that discuss topics of no interest to me. Every time these discussions start I just scratch my head and come back later.
think that the few degrees shy of Sandusky comment is so far over the top that there are no words.
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Even if you consider that a convicted sex offender who trafficked in pornographic images of children had unfettered access to film of the the Gosselin children, which included nudity, as an editor on their shows?
Admin,
True, peanut butter does not put allergens in the air, but a child can leave traces of it all over the place before washing their hands.
Yes, the child died from an actual peanut that was brought into the school. She would not have died if there was a No Peanuts rule and it was enforced.
Why take that risk? Is it really worth it? So they can't have peanuts in school. They can have all the peanuts they want as an after-school snack.
I GUARANTEE you that child will NOT die if they can't have peanuts in school. Can anyone GUARANTEE that an allergic child will NOT die if they allow peanuts in school?
"@gypsi001 I'd rather cook my fingers2the bone than clean!Love CLEAN&do it daily but takes a helper 2 accomplish here. I hv 8 tornadoes!"
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Maybe if Kate's idea of cleaning didn't involve using numerous q-tips to clean a fridge - she wouldn't need a helper to keep up with the cleaning.
I still remember how she would avoid interacting with her toddlers by cleaning her kitchen floor three times a day!
Admin said...
Only the group told peanuts were in the room suffered allergic reactions. Crazy.
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Yes, that is crazy. And very interesting. However, with all due respect, how does that help a child in school?
Does the school staff guarantee the child there are no peanuts in the school every day (even if there are) so that he doesn't have an allergic reaction? What if he SEES the peanuts? Does the child convince himself they aren't there?
While that is all very interesting and hopefully gives answers that can maybe help children with peanut allergies in the future, I'm not sure that study helps with The Great Peanut Debate.
To put it in perspective only about 10 people a year die from peanut allergies. More kids die just being driven to school. This is according to the American academy of allergy asthma and immunology. I think there are valid arguments to keep them in schools. Nutritionally they are great for kids, kids will have to learn to get along in the real world, and enforcing rules to never share food could do the job too. I'm more concerned about pbj being available as opposed to actual peanuts.
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Why, why, why do people come here to question the blog when it is so clear it's a blog to discuss all things Gosselin (and some fun OT items too)? If you do not like this blog, why waste your time here? It makes no sense to me. I don't ever go to blogs that discuss topics of no interest to me. Every time these discussions start I just scratch my head and come back later.
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Maybe it's not so much about questioning, but about concerns on the direction the blog may be taking. I've been here since the beginning (not as glycine, but I prefer to keep my blue name out of this) and post fairly regularly and read daily. In recent weeks, there's a sense of exclusivity as well as a not-so-nice attitude both from the regulars as well as admin. I say this with all respect and with the hope that at least some will think about it and remedy the situation. For Gosselin information, it's the most honest, smartest and comprehensive blog going.
Sheeple - please note, this is how grownups discuss issues. We don't hunt down personal identifying information, we don't spew on Twitter, we discuss calmly and intelligently.
Ultimately, it's Admin's blog and she can do as she likes.
"I GUARANTEE you that child will NOT die if they can't have peanuts in school. Can anyone GUARANTEE that an allergic child will NOT die if they allow peanuts in school? "
Then why limit peanut free zones to schools only..make all public places a peanut allergic child may go to peanut free, or better yet, ban peanut sales and/or the eating of them in the whole town.
Please stop discussing the blog itself even if youre doing so respectfully. There are reasons for no blogs on blogs/boards on boards. Please respect it. Thanks.
Kate Gosselin says bagels this weekend with her kids. Kate trying to down play the 50/50 split by announcing "she has the kids". On a holiday weekend and the kids have an extra day at the mansion. Wonder how excited the kids are?!?!
Admin said...
To put it in perspective only about 10 people a year die from peanut allergies.
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Oh, only ten!?! Per year!?! Well that's different.
So that means that in a child's school lifetime he only has about 120 chances to die from a peanut allergy? Those are pretty good odds to risk a child's life so that another child can eat a sandwich.
I'm sure the parents of the ten children, as well as the ten children themselves, will be comfortable with those odds.
Sorry, if I'm coming across as snarky, but I don't find that a comforting "perspective." I respect you and you're blog, and you're right to your opinion of course, but I definitely don't agree with you on this one. I think you're way off.
And when it comes to a matter of life or death, as opposed to whether or not Kate's boobs are fake or not, a little snark, might be called for. ;)
So when do you put the squash on the Peanut Debate. This might get ugly. LOL.
Yes. First, your statement is misleading as he wasn't a convicted sex offender at the time. To imply that Kate Gosselin knowingly had footage of her children in the hands of a sex offender is ridiculous.
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I never implied that Kate knew, but anyone with 2 licks worth of common sense would NEVER allow their children to be filmed naked, partially nude, peeing and pooping.
Where does the film go? Who will see it?
Adults are supposed to be able to see around corners by I think Kate willfully dismissed any possibility of untoward use of her children's images because she had dollar signs in her eyes.
A mother's job is to protect her child from the world, not offer them up to it.
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...I'm really noticing, not that this hasn't been the case all along, that she does absolutely NOTHING interesting with these kids. There is no opportunity for blog fodder. You never see a tweet where she says, went on a hike today and Aaden found this cute little ladybug (pic). Or girls and I rode the bikes to the lake and had a flat tire oh my! We all got together and fixed that baby! Girl power!...
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Yes, that's been Kate's M.O. from the very start. Even when TLC funded those "days out" where Jon & Kate would take just one child at a time and spend the day with them, Kate could only muster enough interest and energy to go on the girls' days out. She skipped on the three boys' days out entirely.
I can come to no other conclusion than that Kate does not enjoy spending simple, average, "mediocre" time with her own children. I remember when posters were sharing some of their favorite childhood memories - and they were of the simply joys they shared with family members while growing up. I don't believe many of them involved going on expensive trips, first class flights or 4-star hotel stays and the like.
Kate likes to talk alot about "making memories" and "traditions", but it's all about surface. Taking photographs of children perfectly posed, dressed in matching outfits - that's what Kate spends her energy on. But getting down and dirty with her kids - a water balloon fight on a hot summer afternoon? No thanks! How about that epic freak out at Disneyworld over dripping ice cream on their clothes? That was so pathetic. She could have created a fun memory of that moment by laughing at the mess, maybe even getting some melting ice cream on herself and joking with the children. But no, she ruined that moment by her horribleness.
Children grow up so fast. It truly is over in the blink of an eye - one day they are babies and the next, graduating from high school. I treasure the moments I have with my child. He still wants me to come blackberry picking with him when we visit my parents. If I'm sitting comfortably on the shady patio and it's hot -- I grumble a bit then get up and go blackberry picking. He eats every one he picks and I put most of mine in a baggie for later. If he sees me eating one here and there, he says, "don't eat them all!" LOL. My son has always been a blackberry fanatic. We've been walking up the same country road since he was an infant, picking blackberries every summer.
Oh man, this comment goes the way of all my comments. I start out with a specific response to something I've read, and then I ramble on. LOL.
My point was that I don't think Kate has ever simply enjoyed being with her children, unless it has been on some expensive trip paid for by others. Even then, she never wants to be bothered by doing what they want.
Winsome good point. I'm fascinated with the direction the public concerns go. Even if it's a very low risk with only a handful of people (all people not just kids) dying people immediately to go banning it. Well can we ban cars too because two of my friends have died.
SG a lot more kids die of failure to thrive issues and some of them rely on high protein easy to get down foods like peanut butter. Look at butterfly's story. What about her right to nourish her child. No one on the other side wants kids to die. They have valid points.
Off topic but of interest - There is a story in the Mail-On-Line (U.K.) which is based on a National Enquirer article. The Mail story is entitled, "A sex offender, an arsonist and a thief: The ex-partners of Honey Boo Boo's larger-than-life mom revealed". The story claims the mother has four daughters by four different men - one of which she cannot identify.
I don't know of course if all this is accurate, but I can't say I am surprised.
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Admin,
My girls' school has a No Sharing Food rule. It's really hard to enforce.
Last year my daughter was telling me she was sharing her lunch with her best friend who didn't like what she got.
I explained to her why she can't share but when kids know, or think they know, that they don't have allergies to something or think it may not be in the food they are sharing it could be dangerous. They are just kids. It's not worth the risk.
Again, the example of that little girl who ate a peanut knowing she was allergic... Saying they shouldn't have shared food will not bring that little girl back.
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My laptop is convenient in my life and I check in (most times with morning coffee in hand) and get a good laugh from Auntie Ann.
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Aww why thank you Dmasy. I am flattered to be part of your morning routine.
Coffee, crocks, socks and AA.
Eat your heart out Denny's.
Not being snarky but why would a no peanuts rule be any easier to enforce than no sharing? They are both rules to be enforced and both rules that people may indeed break.
I'm not big on slapping rules on things and calling them fixed that's all. I like a bigger picture solution of better education and awareness, trained nurses, etc.
This is the third weekend in a row she says she has the kids. What with Kate claiming nothing has changed she might want to remember that means every other weekend. Oops. What a tool.
I wanted to add that the G kids film winding up in the hands of a sex offender is a cautionary tale and I think laws should be enacted to protect reality kids such that not one more child is filmed nude, especially behind closed doors completely out of sight of a parent or guardian.
I really hope a Set Teacher is required whenever reality tv kids are filmed. There needs to be someone who will enforce the rules who does not stand to profit from sensational moments like Gosselin Poopfest/Pukefest, you know, those tag lines that Kate still loves such as Hannah's unnawares which refers to that girl smeared in feces, an image that will live on forever.
One photo developer versus 2.2 million viewers. Lol seriously this is the same thing to you, name?
Organic bagels? Why, because you have 50 lbs of 'organic' flour. Someone really needs a lesson about 'organic'. Two nights ago she served frozen veggies and brown slop. Organic bagels, biotch please.
Working hard to save the world, one grift at a time, one stack of paper plates and one mountain of plastic baggies just for icing on her organic cake. Such boundless energy, yep, something manic is about to pop.
How about just a small tweet to those nice folks on the Alabama coast who GAVE you a vacation and who are now getting pounded by a hurricane. Turn on the news you twit.
Winsomeone,
I really don't think you can compare school, which is a requirement by law in most, if not all, states to other public places.
Peanut allergies have recently become pretty rampant, and fatal to small children. I think it would be great if people would be considerate and not eat peanuts in public places where there are a lot of children. But I doubt that will happen.
I am glad though that smoking has been banned in public places after all these years. LOVE it! I love when the rights of one person no longer infringe upon the rights of another person's health.
It will be a perfect world when someone willingly and unselfishly puts their rights aside for the "health" benefits of others.
Taking film to be developed is not the same as millions of eyes viewing on TV.
Here's the finer point: My potty photo was never, ever intended to make money. Filming reality tv kids on the potty is.
You can spout hyperbole and what ifs all day long and I will still think that something needs to be done about protecting TV kids.
BTW, I never said I agreed with the Sandusky comment.
Admin,
I'm not sure if you were directing it toward me or not, but the I only mentioned that one blog in detail because they no longer exist. I didn't think it would still be considered blog-on-blog if they are no longer a blog.
My apologies.
It can't be compared to smoking. Smoking is bad for you. I have no issue saying go do it away from me. Peanuts on the other hand are incredibly nutritious and good for you. I have yet to hear an example of a kid just walking around outside, takes a whiff of peanuts and falls over dead.
One would hope adults would follow the rule but apparently you've never been around adults. :) Any teacher will tell you adults often don't do what you ask.
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SG and readerlady:
Totally agree with you on the peanut issue. Life and death scenario possible. Butterfly- my daughter also had a failure to thrive issue and would only eat certain foods. But we did have the no peanut rule in our school and I wouldn't dream of risking another child so my child could eat her preferred food- she could make it up at home. There was enough (well, not much!) I could send to school for lunch that was not PB. No one starves themselves to death. (unless there are anorexia or other medical issues) I worried a lot about my DDs weight- was under 0% underweight and had to go to an eating disorder clinic at age two! But now, I have to remind her not to eat too much junk food etc and she's fine. The clinic told me to offer food at mealtimes, no snacks and she would eat. Well, she didn't, but at least I was comforted that she wouldn't starve.
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Nice to know another parent has been through the same situation. My kid's school did not have a no peanut rule- so it wasnt issue, but even if it did- my daughter would have gotten her PB&J for lunch everyday. My daughter's health is as every bit as important (in fact, more so) as all the other kids. Why should she have to go without lunch everyday? Thats what would have happened.
But moving on-
Kate tweeted "I'd rather cook my fingers2the bone than clean!Love CLEAN&do it daily but takes a helper 2 accomplish here. I hv 8 tornadoes!"
I dont know why she doesnt come out say "yes, I have a cleaning lady. Because I can. Can you blame w/8 kids?"
That would be relate-able. And honest.
Does anyone else think if kart lost her precious widdle phone and couldn't get on twitter that she'd have a complete meltdown?
She's been acting pretty weird lately, doing marathon twitterfests.
I think the only friends she has are twits; if she loses contact with them she will cease to exist! Sadly, I think she defines herself as The Great Tweeting Pied Piper, Marvelous Mother of 8, Count 'EM 8 Kids.
She does have some manic characteristics, doesn't she?!
I feel sorry for her.
Butterfly,
From reading your posts, I think you and my hubby are in the same line of work! He was an Army intel officer. Now retired from the military, but still fighting terrorists.
You mentioned your issues with a picky eater-- one of my children was also the type who would only eat what he wanted, when he wanted. He was overdue and very large at birth, but not as big at one year. The doctors made us feel horrible about it, like we must be starving him. We were ordered to bring him in for monthly weigh-ins and check-ups with a developmental pediatrician. On his first visit, the developmental pediatrician just sat silently for a half hour and watched our little dynamo systematically dismantle her office. Then she said, "This is not a failure-to-thrive baby. He has waaayyy too much energy for that." We never had to take him back again. A friend had a baby girl the same age, and had the same problem (picky eater/slender build). She was told to put a tablespoon of vegetable oil in each of her daughter's bottles to help the baby gain weight!! She refused. The kids are now normal-sized, energetic teenagers. No ill effects from being picky.
Everyone in the old days had to take photos to a developer. Not everyone gave him potty photos. I never did. But no one has to put their kids on tv. Do you seriously not understand that?
Admin,
I did consider Butterfly's story. I mentioned it. And understand it. It just doesn't seem the norm, and I think most cases are in infants and toddlers. For school age children it doesn't seem as common as peanut allergies.
It didn't seem as if it would be fatal if she's being fed PB at all other hours of the day.
I think that could be a case by case basis. What if there are ten children with peanut allergies and one child with failure to thrive at school?
Putting two health issues up against each other in a debate are different than one health issue against personal choice of what to eat for lunch.
Lyla - My husband was also an MI officer CI/CE.
Admin,
The difference that makes enforcing a no peanut rule and enforcing a no sharing rule is the parent.
The parent will be the responsible adult to make sure no peanut products are sent to school.
SG said... 30
I am glad though that smoking has been banned in public places after all these years. LOVE it! I love when the rights of one person no longer infringe upon the rights of another person's health.
It will be a perfect world when someone willingly and unselfishly puts their rights aside for the "health" benefits of others.
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That's a very fine line- people use that same argument for Flu shots and vax- they say every should be forced to get them- to give thier right to decide for themselves- for the sake of the few immuno-compromised.
I don't think that's the society I want to live- If I have a problem, such as an allergy, I dont expect the world to change and adapt for me. I adapt to my surroundings.
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LOL
The photo developer issue is a thing of the past. We are talking "now" aren't we?
Do people really still get pics of their children naked and on the potty developed? If so, then that's wrong. No one is defending that. At least I hope not.
Parents did a lot of things back in the day that are frowned upon now. Live and learn. The point is to "learn."
Parents should not be putting their children on TV or blogs or youtube naked or on the potty, etc.
It's crystal clear that cooking and packing school lunches is something very new for Kate, because she has always delegated these duties to nannies and before that, to Jon or to TLC. This woman is giving herself away with her twits...it obvious to anyone with any thinking skills.
Granted, she did manage to cook a few times on camera for the show, but even then their food was generally delivered from a food company all prepared and ready to eat. If she had been doing these duties for years now, her tweets would not read as they do...like she is 12 years old, just bursting with pride at her accomplishments in the kitchen as she discovers the joys of cooking. Childish, fake, deceptive woman.
Speaking of busy bodies, sheeple Milo takes the award for being an uber-busy body. Paige had tweeted that Kate's surprise came in the mail. Milo, who tweets religiously to Kate wanting to know what she had to eat, what kind of backpacks the kids have, where Kate went to dinner, if she ran today, what she's doing every minute of the day and night...tweeted to Paige:
miloandjack
@Paige_Kate8fan....Oh geez....now U know we all have inquirin minds...."what surprise??"
Paige responded by saying that what she ordered for Kate came in the mail to her and now she's going to send it to Kate. Kate didn't send Paige anything.
Milo must be breathing easier, knowing that Paige wasn't a recipient of a gift from Kate. Milo isn't one to be ignored!
Getting a whiff of smoke on the sidewalk wont make you fall over dead either. At least I've never seen a person fall over dead from a whiff of smoke. Have you?
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wow- I am Navy intel, LOL!!
My daughter wasnt failure to thrive- she just stopped gaining weight and would lose weight in heartbeat, so the doctors would say if she lost a specific amount in a certain time- into the hospital she would go. Oil in the bottle- yuck! Yeah, they gave me some crazy ideas for her, too. Ice cream everyday- even as a meal for one. Double servings of butter on all her food.
Yeah, she's fine now- very skinny, still picky, but keeps weight on.
When my son was small, he had a friend who would ONLY eat beige or colorless food. Around the age of two, he screamed at food with any color -- even candy. He could not be tempted with M & M's.
White cheese, mashed potatoes, and white bread with no crust, milk -- the list was short!
Around 6 or 7, he added scrambled eggs and macaroni and cheese.
His mom had a sense of humor about it and made sure he was always full. She used to joke she had the only child who didn't like chocolate milk.
I never said I wanted her to write about it anonymous, I said it was odd the only thing she talks about doing is watching tv. I'd rather she not talk about them at all, but she does all the time. Since I have video evidence to support she rarrly does anything normal with these kids I'm sticking to that. By the way If youre going to stick your neck out for such a tool at least pick a name.
As for taking a whiff of smoke take it often enough and second hand smoke puts everyone at risk. maybe you missed the articles on that.
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Lyla - My husband was also an MI officer CI/CE.
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Another one! We have a club! Funny thing is, the intel community is so small, our hubbies (and Butterfly) may know each other, or at least be familiar with each others' names. We are at FGGM, so your hubby will know exactly where my DH works. Small world.
Admin,
LOL!!! Good one. Seriously. Yeah, I haven't heard of children taking a whiff of peanuts and falling over dead either.
But I have seen peanut shells all over the ground at the zoo. Stepping in peanut dust and the transfer etc can be fatal to a child. And immediately fatal, not over years of exposure like smoking.
I'm not suggesting peanuts be banned in all public places, someone else brought that up. I only said schools. And possibly only schools with known allergies.
I do, however, think some things can be done by choice out of consideration of others.
I was on a plane a while ago and they announced NO peanut products would be served on that flight due to a mother's request because her child had severe allergies.
I remember feeling like it would have been taking my kids' rights away to their lunch (if that's what I had brought with us) but weighing the factors, I would have kept them packed away in a heartbeat and let my kids go hungry for two hours if I had to. I would have been annoyed. It's not something a mother wants to do. But they would have survived. The other child may not have.
His mom had a sense of humor about it and made sure he was always full. She used to joke she had the only child who didn't like chocolate milk.
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Add me to his club! I loved milk and could not imagine why anyone would want to corrupt it with chocolate or strawberry!
Butterfly,
I feel for the situation you were in. I'm thankful they didn't have that PB rule when she was in school.
If it was the case, I'm guessing someone, your child or the PB allergic child, would have been eating lunch alone in the classroom or the nurse's office.
In some instances there probably isn't an easy solution. Hopefully, the two health issues combined in one school aren't very common.
LOL butterfly,
I don't really understand the flu vaccine issue that well...
If one kid gets the flu vaccine and goes to school with one kid that doesn't then the only child that should chance getting the flu is the one that didn't get the immunization. ????
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SeeSaw said... 7
Why, why, why do people come here to question the blog when it is so clear it's a blog to discuss all things Gosselin (and some fun OT items too)? If you do not like this blog, why waste your time here? It makes no sense to me. I don't ever go to blogs that discuss topics of no interest to me. Every time these discussions start I just scratch my head and come back later.
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Maybe it's not so much about questioning, but about concerns on the direction the blog may be taking. I've been here since the beginning (not as glycine, but I prefer to keep my blue name out of this) and post fairly regularly and read daily. In recent weeks, there's a sense of exclusivity as well as a not-so-nice attitude both from the regulars as well as admin. I say this with all respect and with the hope that at least some will think about it and remedy the situation. For Gosselin information, it's the most honest, smartest and comprehensive blog going.
Sheeple - please note, this is how grownups discuss issues. We don't hunt down personal identifying information, we don't spew on Twitter, we discuss calmly and intelligently.
Ultimately, it's Admin's blog and she can do as she likes.
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I have to agree here.
I, too, have been here for years (2+) and have always posted under the same name (except for now). I don't post as often as I used to, but I do read here daily and still chime in occasionally.
Lately it does seem that the blog has taken on a very clique-ish attitude with a wee bit of 'mean girls' thrown in.
This whole "I have a blue name and you don't, so move along" is particularly tiresome.
Why am I still here? Because I care about the G8 and am anxiously awaiting KK's public demise. AND the majority of regulars are funny, intelligent and very entertaining!
Id like to say why I no longer post here very often. About 6 months ago, or so, I had a conflict with a poster about their (self-admitted) behavior off of the blog. The original poster (who was kind of a newbie, at that time) then made some nasty remarks about me, things that had nothing to do with the initial exchange. Since I had been polite in asking some questions I was surprised that the OP had reacted so angrily. I was offended and said so and asked for an apology. No one ever said "hey, so and so, be nice. We need to be civil" or defended me in any way. It hurt. Now I am a grown woman and don't need to be coddled and babied about my feelings. I am simply stating facts about how I was treated.
I do see others treated the way I was and when they make any kind of complaint about not being treated politely, more often then not, they are greeted with choruses of "Buh-bye, go find a blog that you do like". So until now I have kept my mouth shut.
I care about the kids a lot, I want to see them be happy and healthy. And I care about some regulars too (as much as one can, anonymously through the internet). Just my observations, and of course it is not my blog.
Respectfully submitted by,
a regular, who would like to be anon on this!
If one kid gets the flu vaccine and goes to school with one kid that doesn't then the only child that should chance getting the flu is the one that didn't get the immunization. ????
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No because the flu vaccine contains vaccination for 2-3? select strains of influenza. You can still get the flu if you are infected by a strain not included in the shot.
I didn't each much as a child. Supposedly, I just didn't want to. I was always thin and short for my age. My mother kept trying to force feed me and fatten me up.
My mother kept taking me to the doctor telling him something was wrong with me. He kept telling her I was healthy.
I'm the only one out of the children in our family with no health issues (knock wood).
Butterfly,
Are you at FGGA? You'll know what that means. DH is one of the execs here, so he visits CONUS/OCONUS intel sites regularly. He's been to FGGA twice in the last month.
My son was so stubborn about what he would eat--blueberry Nutri Grain bars were his favorite. If he didn't get exactly what he wanted, he just refused to eat. And when he didn't want any more, he refused to eat more. He was 9lbs at birth, but only 20lbs at one year. That whole failure-to-thrive thing was awful--a doctor even told me that I didn't know how to read the signals that my baby was hungry! The guilt was overwhelming, but then the dev. pediatrician just said, "He's a picky eater. He'll live". And she was right.
Oh yeah, you mean like lung cancer? Yes, people can get lung cancer from secondhand smoke. But as far as I know there is no evidence of getting it from a whiff on the sidewalk. And yes peanuts are healthy and nutrutious but obviously harmful and deadly if you are allergic.
To 10 people a year. 17 died from toasters. Ban toasters.
Tuckers Mom,
So okay... isn't it still the same thing? That flu vaccination would not have stopped that strain anyway and BOTH kids (vaccinated and non-vaccinated) would have gotten the flu. No? I'm confused. lol.
I'm just trying to understand something that butterfly said earlier -- that her daughter had to have peanut butter and jelly for lunch or she wouldn't eat. It was a matter of survival. However, she also said that peanut butter was not the only thing that she ate. If not, then why couldn't she eat the "other" food for lunch and the peanut butter and jelly in the morning or when she got home from school, or in the evening?
Not being snarky, just a bit confused.
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You never see a tweet where she says, went on a hike today and Aaden found this cute little ladybug (pic). Or girls and I rode the bikes to the lake and had a flat tire oh my! We all got together and fixed that baby! Girl power!
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No we don't but now I fully expect to see her blog about bike riding and hiking with her kids in the very near future.
Kate's Latest Tweet said...
"Uh oh....just found a breadmachine dough recipe&instruc 2make homemade bagels(1 of last things nonorganic here)! It's on-this wkend w kids!"
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Now c'mon, Katie... We all know those breasts are NOT Organic!
(It's really me- I'm just not signing in 'Blue' ;)
Sorry if it was mentioned here, but E! Channel had a special on before dawn this morning. It was called somthing like the "50 Most Super Epic TV Moments". It featured the Gosselin Boat Trip episode, in which the kids were all vomiting non-stop and Kate bellowed at Stevie & the Crew (TLC/SHIP... whoever)-- GET IT, HURRY! *Somebody get a sponge!*
Well, not verbatim. I love that quote from Larry David's "Curbed". I sure do miss that show (link provided, for those wanting proof it's legit! Caution: may contain foul language... or in the Sheeple's case, FoWl.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcPG3_KF7DA
Admin,
LOL!!! Huh?
Do they have toasters in school? Are the children allergic to them? Do the children have access to them?
What about meat slicers? Should we ban those around children? Or is that okay since relatively few children die from meat slicers? Wasn't there a debate about the dangers of a meat slicer in the home?
Now I'm wondering if Kate should even have a toaster in the house, nevermind a meat slicer. She has 8 kids. Her odds are higher of one of them dying from the toaster. ;)
Okay, I'm over the The Great Peanut Debate. (I think.)
I don't think we will be agreeing on this one.
Hopefully, it remains a respectful debate at least, even with the snark and levity. :)
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Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 40
Everyone in the old days had to take photos to a developer. Not everyone gave him potty photos. I never did. But no one has to put their kids on tv. Do you seriously not understand that?
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Nobody had to take naked photos of their kids, but many did. Do you seriously not understand that? By the "degrees shy of Sandusky" logic, that makes those parents just shy of Sandusky. Yes, that is ludicrous. So is the statement that Kate Gosselin is a few degrees short of Sandusky.
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Kate Gosselin took money in exchange for nude videos of her children. She knew that the general population would see her children naked, and she was okay with that. She knew that pedophiles would see be able to watch videos of her children naked. She was okay with that, too. Walk up to any Mom on the street and say, "Hey, if I give you some cash, will you let me videotape your kids naked?". I don't think you'll get a very positive reaction. Normal Moms are not okay with strangers watching videos of their kids naked. Kate is. There's something very wrong with that.
To 10 people a year. 17 died from toasters. Ban toasters.
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I think the thing with the whole peanut debate is that there are school children involved here. There are kids with allergies to nuts. This isn't a housewife sticking a metal fork in a toaster. If the risk of having a serious reaction or death to even ONE child can be prevented, then it's not unreasonable to take that precaution. If there's a "no peanuts" policy at school, parents should respect that and follow that rule, especially if there are children in the classroom with known allergies. It's the responsible thing to do. If it were your child who may have an allergic reaction, I would think that you would hope that other parents follow the "no peanuts" rule.
Sherry Baby,
Two thumbs up. ;)
Layla said... 65
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Well said. I think kids need to be taught boundaries and disrobing in front of a revolving door of crew members is a terrible precedent to set. I find it abusive.
Good comments from those against Kate filming her children vs. pics taken by parents for "memories."
I'm enjoying the debate.
SG said... 58
Tuckers Mom,
So okay... isn't it still the same thing? That flu vaccination would not have stopped that strain anyway and BOTH kids (vaccinated and non-vaccinated) would have gotten the flu. No? I'm confused. lol.
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You're correct. The flu vaccine is not a cure all but it's an effective tool in guarding against the flu.
Just a comment...I am not Blue- was, for about an hour! All I found here was support and suggestions and people commiserating. No Mean Girl stuff. Ok, sometimes we post something that goes 'unnoticed' by others, or so we think, but I would imagine we are mature enough not take it personally. New posters are welcomed regularly. We are not restricted to talking "Kate." I'd say this blog is a pretty good place to visit, laugh and learn. Oh, and snark on Kate. I think we all have the G8 kids as our common denominator, though.
Layla @ 64
Excellent points, excellent argument!!
SG - same goes for you :)
About cleanliness...why have helpers when she has 8 (yes, 8) helpers at home?? I have only 2 (yes, 2) kids ages 9 and 8. They are expected to clean the common areas and keep their rooms in order. They do dishes, put their laundry away, etc. Her kids are more than able to do the same. Again I ask...WHY in the world does she need these helpers??
Seldom post, but read often. At my son's preschool each parent brings in snack, once a month, enough for everyone. My son LOVES peanutbutter and nutella sandwiches. At the first meeting, I asked about allergies, and was reassured that no one had any nut allergies. My son missed a week of school due to illness and then it was my turn for snack. While my son was out, a new child joined the class...w/ a peanut allergy. To be fair, an email was sent out, and this info was buried somewhere in it. I was busy taking care of my sick one, my husband was travelling, and older boy innundated w/ projects. I missed the info and sent 16 pb&n sandwiches to school. As soon as the lids came off, the epi pen came out, kid went to the hospital. I cannot tell you the guilt I felt for endangering a child that way. The other child's mother was incredibly forgiving. NO ONE needs a PB&J that badly as to endanger a child who knowingly has a peanut allergy.
Oh...and to keep OT...Kate Gosselin is a bad mom. ;)
492 children had a severe reaction to the flu shot. And yet those who want to ban peanuts don't want to ban the flu shot. What if it were your kid? This is where the argument gets Absurd. No one wants any kid hurt, but there is not necessarily a right way to go about it. Some want the shot because they are afraid of the flu, some don't want it because they are afraid of a reaction. Both good points, both good parents.
I think my issue is one that had been better articulated here by others. In an effort to shield kids from ever possible remote, undocumented danger (still waiting for that link to a kid killed from breathing in pbj) are we actually putting them in more danger because they aren't learning to function in a world that frankly is dangerous.
"No we don't but now I fully expect to see her blog about bike riding and hiking with her kids in the very near future."
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Oh be patient, nestled on those eggs Auntie Ann... we will. Every time something is mentioned here of value, Kate snatches it right up... like it's 39 boxes of discount cereal. Takes the entire shelf!
Although, the Beach Trip raised my suspicions. I personally think she started *GRIFTING for a trip to the shore in May, versus actually booking it. Planning is Kate-Speak for grifting.
*(Example- "I'm currently planning a trip to Europe!" = Tweeting like mad- running her grift.)
Anonymous? I think banning peanuts puts kids in more danger and this isn't an unpopular opinion. I want all children protected. Just because I don't agree with Your way to protect them means I don't want to protect kids? Wow. Hey guess what there is more than one opinion on how to protect kids, shocking I know. And pick a name or youre banned.
Re: Kate not doing anything with her kids, and always being "busy" doing something else instead of doing something with the kids...
On the RV trip, didn't it seem that she was always alone in her camper, cleaning the floors or something, while the two paid helpers were in the other bus with ALL the kids?
And when she was doing that stupid thing in the mornings, giving them lame hints about where they were going, and making them guess....didn't it seem that both she and the kids were awkward with that?
It didn't feel comfortable. She and the kids were kind of stiff with each other. They weren't used to interacting with her like that.
They were used to just having orders screamed at them, and didn't know what to make of this woman trying to have a conversation with them.
Made me think that it was the idea of one of the producers, and the producer came up with the hints, also. Which is another reason Kate was uncomfortable...it wasn't something she'd come up with. She was just acting out the script.
Who was it who brought in a snack to school? I'm far more shocked your school still allows homemade snacks. If they're concerned about peanuts aren't they concerned about salmonella too? Salmonella causes 600 deaths a year. Ive had it and i see why. It's so bizarre to me the things schools focus on and yet miss something big like 10 deaths vs Six HUNDRED. Food for thought, literally.
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Yeah sherry baby! Well said. You would think that the owner of a blog to protect children from exploitation would be all for protecting children from a very real danger.
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Are you the one whining about mean girls? Is this Katie Irene? I think it might be you.
You are deliberately confrontational. Of course you are going to be called on it. Since that's what you want I'll call you on it myself.
Katie, you got lucky on timing. Reality TV had a freak phase which morphed into a rich bit*h phase. You fit both and made millions. It's over now, babe. Give up. Nobody wants the cookbook and you're not organic. You have the carbon footprint of a pig.
You had your shot with the cruise and couldn't market it. If you can't market yourself why do you think you can market products for anybody else?
Here's an idea. Call Chris, pick up the dog at Jon's and meet up with your brood at the bus stop. The photos of a big happy family will make you feel better.
Anonymous you are fine to think it narrowed and selfish. There is plenty of well thought out research to back BOTH views. I have some choice words about the other's view but I don't have a need to say them and insult and berate you. As SG said agree to disagree.
Re: Peanut discussion - The issue with peanuts/peanut butter is the cross contamination. When I was teaching, I had a child that was severely allergic - she had an epipen and we all knew how to use it. At lunch she would sit at the "allergy" table as we called it for kids with food sensitivities. Other kids were allowed to sit there as long as their food was allergen free (we had kids with gluten issues, strawberry issues, etc. at the table as well as the peanut kids). The parents knew about the table and we're pretty good about making sure they packed "safe" lunches for their non-allergic children so they could sit with their friends if they wanted.
One day, a new kid sat at the table whose parents weren't as up on the rule because they were new. The child understood they couldn't eat peanut butter around their friend but didn't realize that one of their snack items had peanut oil in it. Some of the snack crumbs got on the allergic child's sandwich and she had a full blown reaction. Fortunately it turned out okay - we epi'ed her and the paramedics took her to the hospital. Her parents understood it was an accident and they weren't the suing types. Their philosophy was that they couldn't peanut proof the world for their daughter but they would do what they could to protect her and teach her to protect herself.
Re: Kate and Organic - To quote The Princess Bride:
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
My son's preschool has the snacks brought in, starting in the toddler program. The parent brings in 3 items, in 3 different containers (x3--because snack is served in 3 different rooms) and it's served w/ a pitcher of water. The parents also provide a hand drawn menu to show what a serving is. They also pour their own water into their own little cups. An example would be 3 cubes of cheese, one zucchini muffin, and two scoops of blueberries. Of course a child may have more after eating their serving. They use scoops, tongs, etc. They learn to ask each other to please pass the food, counting, what a serving is, fine motor, counting, etc. Have never seen a case of salmonella in 12 years of the program.
LOL! She admits it to gypsi001 that she has a " helper" (to clean). Part of the truth because we know there is a nanny and a laundress too in addition to the "yard boys". Such a serfdom the Konpound is.
Admin,
I don't see the connection from the peanut debate to the flu shot debate. Could you expand your argument? How do they compare?
Flight of the Kiwi said... 190
Popping in this morning briefly. I was going to ask if I could be frank, but decided to just stick with Flight of the Kiwi.
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As I scroll and get a glimse of what hopefully is ANOTHER conversation between Mr and Mrs Flight, I get positively giddy! and am never disappointed! Thanks for the guffaw!
Oprah OWN is going to have the McGhee sextuplets on as a series. The tups are around 2 years of age.
When I first read about the 120 rolls of Quilted Northern which she estimated would last about two weeks, I didn't believe it. When you consider all the hired help (housekeeper, laundry girl, pool man(men) and other maintenance people)and assuming she allows the hired help to use the 'facilities', maybe two weeks is not the stretch I first thought it was.
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are we actually putting them in more danger because they aren't learning to function in a world that frankly is dangerous.
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I don't think that we are. These are KIDS. They are not adults. By the time they are adults they are more educated and have learned how to manage whatever allergies they may have. They won't share food if they know they are allergic. Many young children will do this without even asking if the product contains peanuts or is made with peanut oil. They don't think. They do things on the spur of the moment or out of curiosity.
There was a case where a child, with a known allergy, was given a peanut in school by a classmate. The kids were playing at recess and she popped it into her mouth. The results were fatal. What about a cookie that may contain nuts? The child doesn't know what's in the cookie and may eat it. Adults are responsible for their own actions. They can read package labeling.
With young children, why take the chance? Why shouldn't there be a rule at school asking that snacks shared with the class do not contain nuts? It's only common sense.
Looked up the McGhee family. The article was 2010, but said HOM are not as rare these days and they have not received the donations other sets of multiples have, such as diapers, food, formula or a vehicle for 6 car seats. Also people just don't have the extra to donate. Interesting...
NJGal51 said... 133
Despite my head clog, my kids danced off to school happily
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DESPITE your head clog? What does one have to do with the other? Maybe they were happy to get out of the path of hurricane Kate! Guess that @Ziacam didn't work out so well for you. Bettr try some @alkaseltzerplus.
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Dwindle said... 91
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Comment of the day! ROTFL!
SG, both parenting decisions that each side feels are the right one. Both valid points. I was making the point it's not about not wanting kids to get sick if you choose not to vaccine just like it's not about wanting kids to have reactions--just a different take on how to handle it that may not include a straight ban (ie as I said, education, etc)
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Anonymous said... 73
Yeah sherry baby! Well said. You would think that the owner of a blog to protect children from exploitation would be all for protecting children from a very real danger.
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Are you the one whining about mean girls? Is this Katie Irene? I think it might be you.
You are deliberately confrontational. Of course you are going to be called on it. Since that's what you want I'll call you on it myself.
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This is one of the 2 or 3 posters who drive by every few months, point fingers and call names and then accuse us of being mean, all the while calling more names.
I am not sure he/she does it on purpose. Like you said, this person is deliberatly confrontational and truly knows no other way of communicating. Everything is very personal to this person, and he/she sees a conspiracy on every corner. Some folks cant discuss what they dont like in the weather or in a dinner recipe without starting off by saying "You're stupid, you're annoying and you're mean to meeee!"
It starts around 12 years old and some never outgrow it.
Admin,
I don't see the connection from the peanut debate to the flu shot debate. Could you expand your argument? How do they compare?
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I'm not sure I do either, SG. Kids don't share flu shots, nor do kids get the flu if a child, who had the shot, breathes on him (or kisses him). I think that what is being discussed is whether to ban everything that poses a risk of a reaction, or even death.
There is a risk with a flu shot, but some parents take that risk while others do not. Should the shot be banned just because some don't want their children to get it, thus depriving those parents who do want their child to have the shot? I think that's the question.
The same might hold true in the great peanut debate. If a child wants to eat peanuts, he would be denied this right if all peanuts in school would be banned.
Folks, I just have to chime in here on the 'blue name thing'....
It is NOT, NOT, NOT a clique thing AT ALL.
Not too many days ago, a bunch of shit-stirrers came on en masse and decided to be junior high stupid.
They deliberately posted using other posters names. In other words, to be clear here, as an example for you, someone would have come on and posted a nasty, snotty provative comment using MY name.
The post did not come from ME, but they signed the post using MY name. They could do this because I wasn't using a google sign-in.
A google sign-in is one that is mine alone, I had to go out and sign up for it with google, and no one can use it except me because I have to put in a password.
The google name shows up IN BLUE. It is a way for admin and others to know that it is really me, and not some shit-stirring-name-hijacker out to make me look bad.
So, again to be clear, the blue name thing is a way to keep assh*les and jerks from attributing crap to my name.
If you are posting your words by using the 'name' choice, it will be black and anyone can 'forge' your name (be an imposter) and say really vile things that folks will think come from you.
The blue name thing is a security measure to keep the riff-raff from forging. It is NOT, NOT, NOT a clique thing at all.
Any cute conversations at that time can be explained by the difficulty many of us had in getting google to allow our names. Google didn't make it easy and we got pretty punchy trying to secure our sign-in screen names.
To finish, yeeessss, it's true that a shit-stirrer can also get a blue name and drop turds, but at least it will be in there own name and not YOURS OR MINE.
I'm sure you can tell that I am just a bit miffed about being accused of being 'clique-y' when all we are doing is protecting ourselves from impersonators.
I also have to say that I don't think there has been much snark here except from folks who were being deliberately provative to stir things up.
Frankly, the regulars here have much better manners than to be rude.
Rant over. If you feel you can't agree with this, then we must agree to disagree. I won't be posting anymore on the subject.
Proud to have a unique, non-impersonatable name in blue. I'm secure.
"provocative" - sorry, typing too fast with too much emotion......
I sure wish blogger had a spellcheck feature for us fast typers... sigh.......
also channel surfing a.m. caught Kathy Griffen doing a take-off on Kate doing the DWTS paparazzi number. Pure Kate Gosselin nee Kreider.
Perm: Thanks, I didn't realize that about fake posts....I think I must be missing a lot in the wee hours! I hope no one uses my name as I can't seem to go blue...in a couple of days, Google will lift my suspension and I'll try again.
Please note, people, I will say nothing too vile or nasty while not in the blue!
I've got to work on going blue. DH should be able to help me out. I have not felt out of the fold because I'm not blue tho. No cliquey at all.
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So when do you put the squash on the Peanut Debate. This might get ugly. LOL
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Squash on peanuts? That's a new one. LINK, PLEASE! I dont even like most squash. I like zucchini and I like pumkins, but that is about it. But mixed with peanuts? Nah.
No I have not gone 'round the bend due to 31 hours of lack of sleep, I am just being silly.
And to answer the question before it is asked:
NO, I do NOT think folks using a black name are bad/sad/mad/crazy/shit-stirrers/whatever negative word you might want to use.
Black names are, however, at risk for being impersonated.
Each person decides how they want to sign in - no judgement, no criticism.
To each his own, all ways are good.
admin said, I'm far more shocked your school still allows homemade snacks. If they're concerned about peanuts aren't they concerned about salmonella too? Salmonella causes 600 deaths a year. Ive had it and i see why. It's so bizarre to me the things schools focus on and yet miss something big like 10 deaths vs Six HUNDRED. Food for thought, literally.
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Younger kids in school may bring snacks to share. We did this when I was in school, a stone-age ago. I have never, in all of these years, seen or heard about a case of salmonella from kids sharing snacks. I have, however, seen a few cases of allergic reactions to nuts and products made with peanut oil (years before the no-nuts policy), one from chocolate, and one child breaking out in a nasty case of hives from strawberries. No salmonella, knock on wood.
But, with blue you get a free trash can! Not to be over looked.
Once,
LOL - no worries about you - we know you're a good guy.
In fact, that is exactly how we figured out the impersonators were at work. They posted a really nasty, snotty message which was WAY out of character for the true screen name holder.
They were so easy to spot. Stupid is easy to see...
Immediately we all scrambled to get 'blue' secure names. It was quite a party, I have to say. Google is not user friendly sometimes. Some of us got it done, some didn't and some got blue then google took the blue away. aacckkk!
Those pesky trolls and sheeple are so annoying.
It's beyond me what anyone would even want to stir things up. What to they get out of it?
I wouldn't even know where to begin to get "blue"...don't have the time or the interest...if somebody wants to impersonate me...well....knock yourself out...
Dwindle, silly???? LOL!
If you weren't blue, I think you were an impersonator......... ha ha.....
I love your posts. There are some wildly witty women on here. The WWW Club.
Oh, I guess that would be a club/clique huh????
Forget I said anything ..... crawling away quietly
When my son was in the combined 2nd-3rd grade, he had a sweet little classmate from a...well, questionably sanitary home. Had I known the phrase "hoarder" then I might have used it.
The situation was extreme and had been reported to authorities.
The mom was so generous and active in the volunteer parent program. She often brought food to the classroom for sharing. Often.
Wince and gulp...all the other moms chose to handle the situation in their own way. ( I told my son to kindly take a treat and discretely dispose of it without eating. If he couldn't resist and did eat one, he never got ill!)
I kinda' wish there had been a store-purchased-individually-wrapped rule back then.
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Folks, I just have to chime in here on the 'blue name thing'....
It is NOT, NOT, NOT a clique thing AT ALL.
Not too many days ago, a bunch of shit-stirrers came on en masse and decided to be junior high stupid.
They deliberately posted using other posters names. In other words, to be clear here, as an example for you, someone would have come on and posted a nasty, snotty provative comment using MY name.
The post did not come from ME, but they signed the post using MY name. They could do this because I wasn't using a google sign-in.
A google sign-in is one that is mine alone, I had to go out and sign up for it with google, and no one can use it except me because I have to put in a password.
The google name shows up IN BLUE. It is a way for admin and others to know that it is really me, and not some shit-stirring-name-hijacker out to make me look bad.
So, again to be clear, the blue name thing is a way to keep assh*les and jerks from attributing crap to my name.
If you are posting your words by using the 'name' choice, it will be black and anyone can 'forge' your name (be an imposter) and say really vile things that folks will think come from you.
The blue name thing is a security measure to keep the riff-raff from forging. It is NOT, NOT, NOT a clique thing at all.
Any cute conversations at that time can be explained by the difficulty many of us had in getting google to allow our names. Google didn't make it easy and we got pretty punchy trying to secure our sign-in screen names.
To finish, yeeessss, it's true that a shit-stirrer can also get a blue name and drop turds, but at least it will be in there own name and not YOURS OR MINE.
I'm sure you can tell that I am just a bit miffed about being accused of being 'clique-y' when all we are doing is protecting ourselves from impersonators.
I also have to say that I don't think there has been much snark here except from folks who were being deliberately provative to stir things up.
Frankly, the regulars here have much better manners than to be rude.
Rant over. If you feel you can't agree with this, then we must agree to disagree. I won't be posting anymore on the subject.
Proud to have a unique, non-impersonatable name in blue. I'm secure.
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You should know that your name is not unique or non-impersonatable. I can change my Blogger account screen name right now to match yours. While I agree that those impersonating people here are being incredibly childish, the same thing can be done to those of you with blue names. It's annoying, but really not the end of the world. All you have to do is indicate that you didn't make the comment and ask for it to be deleted.
Please try. I'm curious to see if what you say is true.
My understanding is that if you put in someone else's name or screen name you will get a message "name chosen, please choose another".
I'm really curious and would like to see if you can do it.
I don't know how someone else can get into my blue account. I had the devil's own time getting there myself!
Permanent Name in Blue said... 110
Please try. I'm curious to see if what you say is true.
My understanding is that if you put in someone else's name or screen name you will get a message "name chosen, please choose another".
I'm really curious and would like to see if you can do it.
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OK, I will try. I know for a fact that I can change my screen name to match without getting an error message, but I will try posting under your name and see if I get a message then.
Anonymous said...You should know that your name is not unique or non-impersonatable. I can change my Blogger account screen name right now to match yours. While I agree that those impersonating people here are being incredibly childish, the same thing can be done to those of you with blue names. It's annoying, but really not the end of the world. All you have to do is indicate that you didn't make the comment and ask for it to be deleted.
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I thought the Google name in blue was connected to one's email address which would make it unique.
Tweet,
We'll see. I am really curious about this!
Well. Google lifted my ban! Let's see if my new name is acceptable to them, Formerly Duped is me, Once a Viewer.
If this doesn't work, I will admit defeat...for now!
Testing...
All you have to do is indicate that you didn't make the comment and ask for it to be deleted.
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Yes, if you read every single comment. You might miss the "fake" post and others would think that you made it, and if it's a very nasty one, you wouldn't appreciate that.
Perm, I'll eat my hat if Anonymous can do it.
Testing...I am not really Permanent Name in Blue.
Anonymous, please I do not mean this with any unkindness.
If you are that computer savvy, why not chose a name so we can "recognize" you. Any cute/clever/silly name will do!
There is a rule.
Tweet, I sure hope your hat is made of edible fruit! LOL
Or chocolate....
Chomp, chomp, tasty hat. Now I probably won't sleep tonight trying to figure out how that was done. lOL
Permanent Name,
Perhaps you missed it the other night (since it was swiffered) but indeed there was a regular who said to a "troll" (who wasn't a troll but a long time poster): "You don't have a name in blue, so I don't believe a word you say".
I have been here a very long time, read every day, and know the whole name in blue source story. Next time you explain something try not to be so condescending.
See #118. It worked. Of course, I have a different avatar but that could be changed also. I'm not trying to freak anyone out, just thought you should know that the "blue thing" doesn't stop you from being impersonated. It does make it harder.
Oh my goodness. Anonymous you taught us something today. Wow. We really did think we had a safety cushion. Thanks, I guess. Still, there is the trashcan....
Formerly/Once -- congratulations.
I thought the Google name in blue was connected to one's email address which would make it unique.
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I thought so, too. When I go to sign in, it brings up my e-mail address and password. How could you by-pass that by typing in the ID of another existing Google account?
a regular, who would like to be anon on this! -
I appreciate your candor. I'm sorry you went through a difficult time with another poster.
I want to ask you about one statement in your post that has me confused. You said:
This whole "I have a blue name and you don't, so move along" is particularly tiresome.
I read here daily and, although I may have missed something, I have never seen or heard anyone here criticize, mock, or demean someone because they do not have a blue login. I have never even read any insinuation or words that could be construed as telling someone to "move along" for not turning blue.
I clearly recall that people were being very helpful to posters who had expressed a desire to get a blue login. They weren't critical of people who either weren't able to or chose not to change login types. The whole "turning blue" thing was just a fun way to try to prevent some trouble-makers from stealing identities - nothing more; nothing less.
Sometimes words and thoughts can be misconstrued because words don't always properly communicate what the writer intended them to; other times, someone might have just misunderstand another person.
Well, Hell's Bells!!!
Anonymous, you are correct. My hat is off to you; There goes the security we all thought we had.
So.... thinking out loud here.... obviously I'm going to be changing my name.... and I sure liked Permanent Name... sniff...
I have to assume that I can make a NEW google gmail address using a fake name of course, and use that gmail name as my screen name?
Or are we all screwed in terms of impersonators because no matter what name we use for google gmail account, the *screen name* can be impersonated?
Anon, do you know?
Permanent Name in Blue #1 and #2 -- you were not condescending. I thought you explained our reasoning very well.
Anonymous, I am amazed!
Over in Kate's County said...
I thought so, too. When I go to sign in, it brings up my e-mail address and password. How could you by-pass that by typing in the ID of another existing Google account?
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Not sure. Have to think about it, but I'm too ditzy today with hardly any sleep.
Enough already....I'm dizzy..
Admin -- I haven't had time to read all the comments from today, and if this is repetitious, I apologize. Here are some links on peanut allergy for you. A couple of them are momblogs, others are scientific. There's one I'm still looking for that I read recently and now can't find. It cited a couple of studies -- one showing no reaction to casual exposure to peanuts and another that did show reaction in severely allergic people. Let me ask you this. How much risk is acceptable to you? One child? 10 children? a hundred? When does it become unacceptable? When it's your child? Your niece or nephew? Your godchild? Or is it only acceptable when it's an amorphous unknown child "somewhere out there"? Why are we here on this blog? Mostly, it's because we saw children we don't know being put at risk and wanting something to be done about it, even if that mostly involves talking a lot and discussing OT, LOL. Peanut free schools aren't saying children cannot eat peanuts or peanut butter. They can have all they want, JUST NOT IN THE SCHOOL. It's not worth the risk, even if just one child is put at risk. Death is permanent. (Re automobiles -- there are literally thousands of rules, laws and regulations surrounding the manufacture and operation of cars, designed to make them safer and to prevent injury and death. Children with severe peanut allergies need only one rule).
Thanks, Dmasy!
I prefer Once a Viewer but Google did not... I am just waiting for them to tell me my real name is not Formerly Duped, either ! Oh well, I just tried out my trash can- ALL MINE!!!
But it takes a lot of extra work for a troll to sign in and change a name to impersonate someone. Hasn't happened yet. Trolls don't like work they just like to quickly stir the pot then relax and watch it implode. In my opinion blue names are a big deterrent.
Black,
I wasn't being condescending. I was mad.
I was talking to folks who thought the whole blue name was some sort of clique, which it is not. There are apparently people on here who do NOT know the 'whole blue name story'..... that was my target audience.
If someone truly did say that, then I agree they should not have.
Bottom line, I need to take some time to think this whole security issue out.
Anonymous, you did us a service. Thank you.
The real Permanent Blue - LOL.... but not for long.
Well, DUH! It might help if I actually included the links. Sorry. It's been a long, tiring day, and I'm badly in need of a Rumspringa or three.
https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/273954/original/Peanut%2BAllergies.docx
http://foodallergies.com/od/Peanut-Allergies
http://kevinmd.com/blog/2011/02/kids-allergies-die-school
http://milfordmom/hubpages.com/hub/Believe-the-Hype-Peanut-Allergies-Kill
http://www.aafa.org/display.cfm?id=9&sub-20&cont=517
Oh my goodness. Anonymous you taught us something today. Wow. We really did think we had a safety cushion. Thanks, I guess. Still, there is the trashcan....
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LOL!! All this time I felt terrible because I couldn't turn blue (no letters in the robot box). I won't worry anymore!
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Well, Hell's Bells!!!
Anonymous, you are correct. My hat is off to you; There goes the security we all thought we had.
So.... thinking out loud here.... obviously I'm going to be changing my name.... and I sure liked Permanent Name... sniff...
I have to assume that I can make a NEW google gmail address using a fake name of course, and use that gmail name as my screen name?
Or are we all screwed in terms of impersonators because no matter what name we use for google gmail account, the *screen name* can be impersonated?
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Don't change your name because of me! If you click on the avatar in #118 you'll see that I've already gotten rid of your screen name.
The issue is that anybody can change their screen name -- it doesn't matter that the Blogger account is linked to a unique email address.
The Administrator is correct that being signed in is a major deterrent to impersonation. I was just giving you a heads up that your screen name isn't unique to you.
As someone who had A LOT of difficulty with going blue, never mind the avatar thing, I found the comments about it both funny and supportive.
I cannot sign into my google account from my laptop and my local expert has not yet had a chance to assist with this (not sure it can be fixed - as my first attempt at a google account seems to have "locked" me out on my laptop).
So sometimes you will see me posting in black.
If you are ever not sure it is me, please feel free to ask - I take responsibility for what I say and do and might miss an imposter's comment.
That said, I really enjoy this blog. :)
Call me crazy, it happened late at night - just as black is black explained.
I would love to come clean about who I am and the exact nature of what happened to me. But since no apology was ever given, even thorough I asked, and since no one seemed to notice what was said (even though the OP and I had a bit of aback and forth on it) I decided to pull up my pantiesand stop commenting as much. It is what it is and it is only a blog. Nuf said! ;)
Reader lady no risk is acceptable as no one wants a child to die. It's a difference of opinion on how to manage risk. What if we made a peanut free world until kids were 18. Then they go to college and got so used to having no peanuts around they didn't think to ask or check about peanuts in the caramel corn. Next thing you know they have a bad reaction. There are valid well thought out reasons such as that for why people think banning things could have unintended even deadly consequences by fostering complacency. Again it's not a matter of wanting a kid toget hurt or die, just the opposite.
Awww Dmasy and Dwindle - you get me, you really get me :)
Dmasy, I slipped into some of our (Rocketman and my) vernacular/jargon. Dwindle, I believe, is the lovely lady whose hubby has a new job. My DH has been plodding away the same profession for a very long time - the last 22 years self-employed. We refer to projects as "jobs" - the Gahanna job, the Tampa job, the Pontiac job, the Pittsburg job, the E. Broad Street job, etc. Easier than the trying to memorize the assigned job number. He is licensed in 10 states, although the majority of his projects are here in OH, quite a few are not local. All jobs require site "visits" from time to time beginning to end. Today he spent most of the day crawling around basements, attics and, for part of the day, up on a roof. I know, an architect, who knew?
Dwindle, how IS DH's new job coming along?
I am staying, respectfully, out of the peanut allergy discussion.
Blurry eyed and headachy from doing filing (y'all have NO idea)and pulling stuff together for invoicing...love the checks, HATE the invoicing. So, please, bear with me - I don't quite understand the whole "whiff of smoke on the sidewalk"...other than intentionally getting on one's hands and knees and purposefully sniffing a sidewalk (why?) - or the unintentional trip and face plant - how does one get a whiff of smoke on a sidewalk? A whiff of dog poop I understand.
In terms of a person smoking passing by - well, I haven't actually DIED, as far as I know, but I have had several severe bronchial attacks requiring an inhaler puff caused by second hand smoke inhalation. Does that count?
Geez, it's nearly 5, better get back to the "paperwork" :( after I figure out why Rocketman's insulation covered, grimy pants are on the dining room floor, work boots are UNDER the piano and a pair of dirty sweat socks are on the living room coffee table...be afraid for me.
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Over in Kate's County said...
I thought so, too. When I go to sign in, it brings up my e-mail address and password. How could you by-pass that by typing in the ID of another existing Google account?
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Not sure. Have to think about it, but I'm too ditzy today with hardly any sleep.
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Just to be clear...I didn't bypass anything. I signed into my own account and then changed the screen name to match Permanent Name's. I most definitely don't want to give the impression that I accessed anybody's Google account. I have zero hacking skills and zero desire to be a hacker.
And on that note why announce its not foolproof. The trolls haven't figured it out so far so no reason to spell it out for them.
Just have to add, my avatar is in honor of how much of a grinch Kate turned into when Jon and the kids were carving pumpkins.
To make it more difficult for someone to steal your blue name, make sure you use an avatar that is not just a standard clip-art image. Create a home-made avatar, or use a unique personal picture. This would at least cause people to have to go through the extra step of trying to copy and save your picture to their machine to impersonate you.
It is beyond me why anyone would choose to be so juvenile as to impersonate someone else. I think they should be embarrassed, but I guess it makes them feel clever. Kind of sad for them.
When I started my new job, it was as if I had joined a new community. I had new people to meet, new territory to explore, etc.
I could have come in with guns blazing and shouting orders that we were going to be doing things MY way from now on. But I didn't. I observed how things worked there. I sat down with people who had been there awhile and newer
people on board to get their take on things. I
spent the first year doing things the way THEY
did them, the way they handled things (no problem with how things were going, btw) and after that year of observing and MY changing MY way of doing things, I felt comfortable asking them if they would be willing to take a look at a new way to do small things.
I feel that entering a blog community is much the same thing. Get a feel for it before you blast your way in. Find out how THEY do things before you stir up the waters. Listen, look and
gather info. Then, slowly, as you become part of that community and respect them for who they are, start making some gentle suggestions for change.
Just an opinion, but a strongly felt one.
http://kevinmd.com/blog/2011/02/kids-allergies-die-school
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"Yes, a 7 year old boy is probably old enough to know better. Even my 4 year old knows that he’s allergic to peanuts and needs to avoid them. But think about it. The boy is seven. Who would bet money on a 7 year old having 100% impeccable judgment at all times? I wouldn’t. So while they may be aware of their allergy and “know better,” the fact remains that they are just too young to be trusted 100% of the time. It’s a dichotomy that society as a whole can’t quite agree on and we can’t have it both ways. Some say that a child of that age should be completely in control of this life-threatening allergy, yet I have heard first-hand about the police being called because a child of the same age was left alone in a locked car while the mom went into the store for a few minutes!"
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Excellent link, Readerlady. This is exactly what I tried to convey in my post, only this writer did it much more effectively.
Tucker's Mom said: ... A mother's job is to protect her child from the world, not offer them up to it.
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Hear, hear! And this concept, in a nutshell, is why I post here. This is why I have such a huge problem with Kate as a mother. This is why I am so strongly against children being on any reality tv show - whether it's Kate Gosselin and her children, the Bates and their children, Honey Boo Boo, Duggars, Toddlers and Tiaras -- and the list goes on and on.
In my humble opinion, it is never a good idea, nor in the best interests of your child(ren), to place them out for public viewing via a reality tv show. It invades their privacy. It potentially exposes them to pedophiles. There are no workplace protections via Federal law (as there are for child actors). There is a huge temptation for parents to keep all the money the children made for them and/or spend it on themselves, leaving the child with nothing financial to show for their loss of privacy, exposure to pedophiles, and possibly terrible work/life conditions.
A parent's job is to protect his/her child from harm, and to provide them with a loving, stable home, where they feel safe, where they can have their privacy, and where they can exist without bright lights, intrusive cameras, and fake Christmases played out for an audience who views them as entertainment.
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Not being snarky but why would a no peanuts rule be any easier to enforce than no sharing? They are both rules to be enforced and both rules that people may indeed break.
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One is expected to be followed by adults, the other by children. The adults would break the rule willfully, with full knowledge of what may happen and that they could KILL a child.
I see it kind of like gun control laws. No, there shouldn't be a no peanut rule for every age and year at school. It should stop at 12-13. Just as not all guns should be banned, just some, and some ammunition. If only the law could catch up with common sense and compassion. Get rid of ridiculous mandatory minimums and realise that the recidivisms rate is so high because it is handling criminals so stupidly. And I've managed to wander totally off topic...
Just to be clear...I didn't bypass anything. I signed into my own account and then changed the screen name to match Permanent Name's. I most definitely don't want to give the impression that I accessed anybody's Google account. I have zero hacking skills and zero desire to be a hacker.
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Really dumb question...if you have a Google account, why are you posting here under Anonymous?
Oh, Admin, so sorry. I wrote my comment above
BEFORE I saw your request to stop talking about the blog. I do apologize.
Where does the 12-13 come from? I mean we have to admit this stuff is all really quite arbitrary. I tend to fear even that is too late while others would fear that too early. My point being there's no right answer on this and I would never suggest as anonymous did that anyone doesn't care about protecting kids just because we have different ideas how to do it.
Fido thats ok because that comment was wise advice!! A lot of blogs impose a mandatory lurking period before you are allowed to post. Not a bad idea actually.
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You never see a tweet where she says, went on a hike today and Aaden found this cute little ladybug (pic). Or girls and I rode the bikes to the lake and had a flat tire oh my! We all got together and fixed that baby! Girl power!
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No we don't but now I fully expect to see her blog about bike riding and hiking with her kids in the very near future.
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Yes, but it will still be all about Khate. We went hiking and MY kids were amazed at the amazingly great wonderfulish things I ME ME ME did. Then I ME ME fixed this and they all worshipped me and told me how great I am and how lucky they are to have ME ME ME for a mother!!!!
Then they go to college and got so used to having no peanuts around they didn't think to ask or check about peanuts in the caramel corn. Next thing you know they have a bad reaction
That's just it, admin...they don't get used to having no peanuts around. School is not their entire life. They don't live in a vacuum. They eat at restaurants, go to parties, go to a county fair where they might see caramel corn. It's right in front of them all of their lives, but by the time they get to college, they are even more aware of it because they know they are the ones who need to be responsible because nobody else is going to look out for them.
Now a waiting period before posting??? Oh my. Why not just move to a password protected environment where the trusted "regulars" can invite people who have met their specific requirements can join? And then pat each other on the back because they are the chosen ones.
The original point was that a few regulars (their word not mine) were pouncing on non-regulars when they didn't agree with that random poster. No matter how harmless the post was. Without many different opinions a blog becomes a clique, which was yet another point brought up today.
Then that goes back to someone else's question, what's the point in changing the rules at School if everything else in their lives is the same? I think schools are probably more concerned with liability than sincerely protecting kids with allergies.
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Love what you said. If you want to converse, believe me, the intelligent people here can take some disagreement and respond respectfully. But if your just poking a stick to see what kind of hackles you can raise, you might get bored quickly because as I said, we don't suffer fools.
Anonymous you are a real pill. I am not imposing a waiting around period and never said that. I just said it works for some blogs. When you are here wanting this blog to be different the Least you could do is do us the courtesy of following the first rule. You want us respect you but can't follow the simple rules. There are only 4. Why woul anyone consider your suggestions when you can't even respect ours?
I was talking to folks who thought the whole blue name was some sort of clique, which it is not. There are apparently people on here who do NOT know the 'whole blue name story'..... that was my target audience
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I am very glad you posted that Permanant Name! Frankly the only reason I wanted a blue name was because I wanted a pink I phone avatar :)
I believe school is different because it's required attendance and a large part of a child's day.
Can we vote Anonymous off the island at this point? Admin has had the patience of Job with the hyperbole questions and straw man arguments.
The tribe has spoken!
Maybe not, just continuing the theme ;-)
Fair point. But it only takes one peanut at a birthday party, friends house, sports practice or ball game.
OT...I'm right in the middle of Hurricane Isaac, the hatches are battened but this never gets easier. I'm still on bed rest (infarcted bowel)and to top it all off my water has sprung a leak. 90 mph winds are wreaking havoc in this neck of the woods and I'm hoping my 100 year old oak tree will survive. Keep up the good work ladies y'all are entertaining me.
Anonymous, Please know that I am not being in ANY way snarky. You just astonished us. Stopped us dead in our tracks. You were right and we were wrong! We acknowledged that with hat-eating humor.
You were dealing with a handful of regulars. Did you notice that they were all gracious and complimentary to you? I think that was a fair sampling of the ladies here. We gave you credit. Two of us asked why you don't choose a name so we can recognize you.
Wasn't that an example of who we are?
I just don't get the issue about a poster being jumped on if they post something others disagree with. As far as I can see, and I've read here most every day for a long time, is that the only time someone is dealt harshly with is if they are mean or snarky first. I suppose there may be exceptions, but not as a whole. It's really a pretty friendly pleasant blog when the trolls aren't here.
Dmasy you're more patient than me. :)
Audible click omg stay safe. Im sure a little wet Andersen will brighten your day.
Audible Chick...hang on. Sorry. Mother Nature is a mess. We are parched and you are soaked. Good to have you check in.
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Please report back about your safety! We have a huge weeping oak right in front of our house and hooooo boy, if that thing felled, it would take out half.
Hunker down and be safe!
regular poster going anon on this!
Thanks for directing me to that post. I did not see that exchange that 'black is black' noted. Reading the "You don't have a name in blue, so I don't believe a word you say", doesn't read "clique" to me. It just makes me think that the poster believed that certain comments being made sounded "trollish" (whether that determination was right or wrong) and naively thought that the person who posted them was a troll because the name was in black.
I hate to see these examples of in-fighting and hurt feelings occurring. This is exactly what Kate's fans are hoping for. I think we can all just ramp up our efforts to be as respectful as possible to each other, even if we think someone is trying to cause trouble. The trolls always expose themselves, sooner rather than later, and will get swiffered away.
regular poster, I hope you will stay on and continue to contribute to the conversation on all the subjects that arise here.
Now, I think we all need to gather round and perform a virtual rendition of Kumbaya!
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Anonymous, Please know that I am not being in ANY way snarky. You just astonished us. Stopped us dead in our tracks. You were right and we were wrong! We acknowledged that with hat-eating humor.
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I'm the Anonymous who pointed out the "impersonating blue names" issue. Different person from Anonymous 157. And before anyone says it, yes that speaks to why using Anonymous is a bad idea. This is my preemptive "touche."
Kumbaya and Rumspringa drinks. That combination could solve world peace issues!
Anonymous,
I appreciate what you did to expose a hole in what I/we thought was a secure way to post.
I know you did not 'hack' into my google account and I am not upset at what you did.
I *asked* you to try to do it. For anyone here who thinks anon did something wrong or 'dissed me' - she didn't. Again, I *asked* her to try because I wanted to know if it could be done.
I have no anger or malice toward anon at all for pointing out this hole.
And Anon, I know you already switched back to your own screen name. No worries there!
The only reason I was thinking about changing my screen name was because I am hoping there is a way that I can make it impossible to adopt my screen name like you did. (Again, no hard feelings - I asked you to try to prove it to me. You did, and I'm glad)
Your warning was accurate and I'm impressed with your knowledge. Thank you again.
admin said,
I think schools are probably more concerned with liability than sincerely protecting kids with allergies.
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Ouch. That's harsh, generalizing, and has no basis in fact. Moreover, it's kind of a slap in the face for those schools (and dedicated teachers) who put the safety of all kids before everything else.
Anonymous, 172. Thank you. I am glad you weren't the other one. I appreciate you taking the time to explain.
You really did do something impressive today. IF you were going to pick a name -- maybe, something like Blue Genius would do?
Warning -- don't let Auntie Ann pick a name for you! Mine is better.
It wasn't meant to be a slap in the face. Given all the lawsuits, I wouldnt blame them. Although a lot of schools have apparently really resisted a ban, so apparently we're not the only ones.
Audible Click: Good luck with everything and hope you get well soon- that sounds painful :(
Once A Viewer, now Formerly Duped ( to go blue!)
Here's a wise mom who posted her 2 rules: 1. Dont eat Anthing you didn't bring from home 2. If you would like to make an exception call me with the ingredient list.
She said by keeping it simple she never had a problem in or out of school.
And another thing on the allergic reaction thing, then I'll shut up. You should be so lucky, LOL -- Y'all happened to hit on one of the things I'm passionate about. Probably because I've had life-threatening asthma all my life. Kiwi -- I know what you mean about second-hand smoke. I've had ER trips more than once because of severe asthma due to second-hand smoke. My dad was a heavy smoker, and tried so hard to quit, but couldn't. Mom finally designated a room in the house he could smoke in. Cigarettes were banned from the rest of the house. In his defense, he usually went outside to smoke. Anyway, I digress. Small kids don't understand the concept of death and don't understand that it is permanent. They don't think -- Oh, Johnny ate a PBJ and touched this book. I'd better not touch it because I could get dead. Their brains aren't wired that way. Most schools don't ban peanuts for the entire 13 or 14 years a kid is in school (I'm including Kindergarten and Pre-K in that). The bans are usually for the lower grades, where the kids need to be protected from themselves as much as from outside dangers. There's a reason a 6 year old isn't considered an adult.
Lancaster you beat the odds. You're far more likely to die from salmonella from a homemade, peanut free snack than a peanut reaction. There are outbreaks all the time. It's interesting schools who are taking peanuts ao seriously are overlooking such an obvious danger.
Going back to Kate's recent tweets for a moment:
I'd argue that Kate's aversion to gossip isn't because she's so higher-groundish. Kate doesn't gossip because Kate doesn't have any friends to gossip with or about. [Totally off topic, by I did a linguistics paper on the perjoration of certain words -- "gossip" (from god sib) used to mean a friend or a confidante. Kind of like "Kate Gosselin" used to mean "uber-organized, organic meal cooking, mother of all mothers." Now she's just the *mother* of all mothers....]
As for the "helper" tweet -- I'm sure the sheeple are eating up her justification for a house cleaner, but Kate doesn't need a helper because she has 8 kids. She needs a house cleaner because (a) she's lazy and entitled, and (b) her house is too damn big and sprawling for their needs. Downsize to a reasonably sized home, hand out a few chores to the kids, and BOOM, your housework will be done before you know it, Kate.
Lastly: "WRKING/STAYATHOME MOM." WTF? I'm not on twitter, but I wish someone who is would ask her what the heck her "job" is that she's doing from home.
I thought Kate is trying to save money....she would save a bundle if she cleaned the house herself and got rid of the "helper"....This is the woman who's trying to help people save money??!! Housekeepers, nannys, gardeners, pool boys, bodyguards, personal make up artist....oh yeah...people will listen next time she dictates to her trailor trash, uneducated fans how to save money on dog food... Just ridiculous....BTW..she would save a fortune if she put those kids in public school..Oh wait...she did save money on that 5000 lb. bag of flour....how dare she get away with this con of hers...
Griftopia...182
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I agree! It really annoys me when Kate implies she has all this important work to do from home (but doesn't disclose its nature) and mentions she works for various corporations etc. That's to justify her importance and need for so much help and why she is always exhausted. It's sickening.
Audible Click - Stay safe, and I hope you feel better.
Flight of the Kiwi - Please don't ever stop posting your conversations with your dear DH. They are instant classics!
Dmasy - You have invented Kumbaspringas!
Kumbaspringas!
Call Me Crazy, this time I'm calling you funny! :)
Call me Crazy -- I don't deserve the credit. Thank you. Let's have another party to celebrate Kumbaspringas!!
I do not comment very often though I read here everyday, but I have to chime in on the peanut debate and I hope I am not beating a dead horse. A high school student where I live died recently from a peanut encounter (my kids are in elementary). The child did not come into contact with peanuts at school, as all our local schools in the region are peanut free. The child and an older sibling went to a local restaurant, let them know of the allergy, but somewhere along the line something got contaminated. The child did not survive long enough to reach the hospital. The exact source of contamination could not be determined. My point in sharing this is to emphasize how easily peanut contamination can happen even when trying to do everything right, and for many with similar severe allergies, there is NO room for error. There was no proof or clear evidence that the child consumed a whole or piece of a peanut; a trace amount is apparently all it takes.
That being said, by the time a student is in high school, I would hope that they would be capable of being responsible for their own health, and allowing others to bring peanuts to school may be okay. However, I strongly disagree when it comes to younger children. Younger children share when they shouldn't, fail to wash their hands when they should, and spread every case of the common cold, head lice, ring worm, flu etc that comes along.
BTW, my kids' school serves almond butter and jelly sandwiches instead, and most are fine with it!
This OT and sort of from left field but has been bugging me for a while. Why oh why did Kraft change their mac and cheese??? Their new 'creamy' version has absolutely no taste! The powder stuff was awesome. I hate when companies change something that was working. Or when TV shows recast a character. Well, except for Doctor Who. Or when they pull something from the shelf entirely. Remember Chicken Tonight?
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Kate's complains that she can't have a clean house without a helper but wait - doesn't each kid have a chore to do? Doesn't she pay them for extra work? I'm certain her children charge less than the housekeeper.
And I'm not dissing having a housekeeper. I cleaned houses in college and I would have a weekly cleaning service if money allowed.Someone to come in and mop the floor, vacuum, dust and clean the bathrooms would be just fine, thank you. And there would still be plenty for my four at home to do.
She needs a house cleaner because (a) she's lazy and entitled, and (b) her house is too damn big and sprawling for their needs.
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I owned property that was considerably larger in square footage than Kate's. I cleaned it myself with no housekeepers, nannies, laundry people or pool boys. I did, however, have "lawn boys" because there was just too much lawn, landscaping, mulch beds, to do it myself. She could easily take care of the interior of that house herself. I did it when the kids were in school. In fact, sometimes a larger home with less clutter is much easier to clean than a smaller home. I found this to be true.
If she didn't tweet 7000 times she could do the cleaning herself. I also have nothing against a housekeeper except when you're spending your children's money to pay them when you don't work are home all day and could do it yourself.
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And on that note why announce its not foolproof. The trolls haven't figured it out so far so no reason to spell it out for them.
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My blogger profile says I've been on blogger since June 2010. If someone wanted to pose as AuntieAnn (oh shutup I heard that) they would have to have been on blogger since June 2010. So if you want to be a BlueBlogger Imitator you'd have to join at approximately the same month as the person you're posing as. Too much trouble for most drive-by posters.
Auntie you're a genius. There ya go.
Dmasy said... 187
Call me Crazy -- I don't deserve the credit. Thank you. Let's have another party to celebrate Kumbaspringas!!
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Yes, please- Let's party... Kumbaspringas Style!! !!!!!!
I missed the last Rumspringa, sadly. TLC has a new Reality Show premiering September 9th, called "Breaking Amish". I would suggest that weekend, or the obvious... Labor Day, of course! It has quad meaning on this Blog, in particular.
- Its' original Holiday celebration/observance
- Katie's Birth Plan.
- A salute to all those that have been under Kate's employ-- ever.
- Kart doesn't WORK. She just makes big messes for her Helper Lady to pick up after.
http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/tv/breaking-amish
I know Admin I can't help myself.
Auntie -- no one else could be you! Really. I kinda insulted you in #176. Should I say, sorry?
Tamara - I also hate when companies ruin a well-established product. They obviously do it to save money. I used to love Breyers Ice Cream. Years ago, they started pumping it up with so much air that it was no longer recognizable as the thick, creamy ice cream I once enjoyed.
Hi LeeLee. That is so sad about the student who died. Reading all the comments about peanut allergies makes me wonder if there has been a marked increase in peanut allergies in recent years due to some environmental factor, or if there is just more awareness now about such allergies. (Not to open up a whole new can of worms, but our local high school wouldn't let us decorate using latex balloons because some kids were allergic to latex.)
By the way, your Giant Leeches avatar somehow reminds me of someone!
@KatePlusMy8 said...
"@CZH44578 I would LOVE to have my winnie the pooh tattoo removed!!! I've been over it for the last 15 years lol!" about a minute ago
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Somebody stop me! Grifting tat removal now, are we?
Also, if she cut her fingers off on that meat slicer, Kate would have to hire someone to do her maniacal tweeting. Imagine having that job... Wow.
Someone would have to order a matching pink straight jacket for him/her.
Not that a lot of people dont make the same mistake but isn't that typical of Kate living in the moment not thinking around the corner? I love pooh I want it now! Not thinking a 37 year old woman will one day find herself quite over it.
OT: I like to say a few things about a dear friend of mine who passed away on sunday, a day after her 59th birthday, and will be buried tomorrow. Kathy was a good kind person. A wonderful friend, and wonderful mom to her kids and a wonder wife. She was my buddy on going to see Davy Jones. We had our adventure at Disneyworld, for 5 days, 3 concerts each day, and standing all day in line to get good seats to see Davy Jones at Epcot. I know Kathy & Davy are dancing and singing, up there. They are truely Forever Young. I will miss you Kathy!
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