Are you there God? It's me, Kate.
We will do a “book club” style discussion of a few chapters at a time as we read the book together. You are free to read with the group or skip ahead. You are also free to discuss whatever you like, however if you want to partake in the book club discussion, this thread is here to discuss the designated chapters. Robert Hoffman’s book “Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World” is available on Amazon for Kindle. The Kindle app is free for multiple platforms, including PCs.
5. Bad Blog
Kate obsessively reads what is said about her on the internet, from Google news alert to the Gosselin blogs. Undeniably the first online presence to ever call Kate out was the Reading Eagle, a small but respected local newspaper. Staff member Dana Hoffman kept a blog on the site detailing Kate's misdeeds. Kate's people eventually called up the Reading Eagle and asked them to shut down her blog. Within hours the paper removed it from the site. Kate keeps files on her computer with information from blogs and even on their moderators. The file folder for Dana's blog was entitled "Bad Blog."
In January 2008, Kate also asked Discovery to remove Television Without Pity's Jon and Kate forum (which in fact was closed eventually, in June 2008), and the Discovery Health Channel forum.
Kate's house is in a rural neighborhood and surrounded by farmland. She once drove the kids three hours to Maryland to trick-or-treat in her bodyguard Steve's neighborhood.
When Jodi and Kevin spoke publicly about what they saw, Kate fired off an email to Discovery with her three favorite words: "Can we sue?"
According to a member of Kate's family, Kate has been diagnosed with bi-polar, but refuses to take medication.
Hoffman once observed Kate with the kids when she was having a very stable, happy day. She and the nanny, Judy, took the sextuplets to get donuts, later they went to the park and spent a long time there, then met up with another mother and her daughter for a play date back at the house. Hoffman also observed her chatting up and flirting with a park employee.
7. Kate's God Complex
“I asked her how that works as far as our rate going up from Disc Health network and the ‘fringe benefits’ as I call them…. She said that the amount we are paid per show will not take away from what they (AMP) will provide for us. She used the examples of the kids beds… she said those things come out of their (AMP) budget from the network. So that is almost mind boggling to me we will be paid for each episode and receive fringe benefits!!!!! Lord, how great thou art!!!!!”
Kate felt God was "urging" her to quit her nursing job.
Kate said that if Discovery wasn't going to pay for the beds she wasn't going to allow them to film the episode about beds. Jen (producer Jen Stocks) was annoyed by this.
As for Jon, Kate wrote: “I pray that his complacency would leave him and would turn into passion for the Lord! Lord PLEASE help Jon to desire these things!!!!!! Help him to become a man of integrity!!!!! Lord please!!!!! He could be the perfect man if he could get these things under control and let God take control!!!!!”
Alexia foods sent four cases of fries. Other food was sent by others or offered at reduced prices. Fans, friends and family sent gift cards and cash, including $250 from Kate's parents, and Kate attributed it all to God.
Kate writes this about the children: “Lord I am begging you to help me be a loving caring kind and slow to anger mommy. Please stop me somehow from hurting my kids and help me to be slow to anger!!!! I love them SOOO much. Help them to obey me!!!!! And not get into trouble!!!!! Please Lord, amen!!!!”
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16. Wow I stand corrected.
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It's a tragedy that there are actually 16 people who support someone who stood in a House of the Lord hundreds of times, bold faced lied to good-hearted people and took their money, even when she had almost $2 million in the bank and a $1.2 Million dollar mansion in escrow. And then in her own words, describes how she would abuse her toddler babies in fits of rage.
On the other hand, I guess I should be glad it is only 16 people....
So, let me get this straight. TLC is after Robert's book for giving away "trade secrets", yet according to "certain ones", it is a book filled with lies? So, if we are to believe that logic, big network TLC is getting their legal team onto stopping a book with stories that aren't true and saying it's because it gives out their "trade secrets". Yeah, that makes sense.
Dwindle said... 148
Butterfly, Captain Cxxx Hxxxxxxxxx, currently in Afghanastan, my special ops man who my DD#3 unfortunalty for me did NOT marry, says 'carry on soldier'. (Unless of course you outrank him...) hehe
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Carrying on! (but I'm a sailor, hehehe)
OT- cuz I have to- may he return home safely!
But Paula, Robert's narrative/commentary comes off as snarky and even immature in my opinion and while I understand his feelings it did a great disservice to his book and his message. The evidence he presented could stand for itself with very little input from him.
16 retweets?
Let's not forget that most of Kate's "fans" have more than one twitter account to better fight with the "haters."
Probably only 8 fans ... so we weren't THAT far off.
It may not really be 16 because a lot of them make up multiple twitter accounts.
Formerly Duped, I am having the same questiond/doubts about Beth Carson. She had to have read Kate's journals when they worked on the book. How could she not have reacted in shock and horror? She cannot be both a strong Christian yet merrily profit from whitewashing the truth.
Yikes, the ad at the top of my pages says "Fix Defiant ODD children. Stop defiance, backtalking, lying. The Total Transformation Program"
Gosh, I hope they don't use Kate's techniques. No wait, her techniques cause that type of behaviour.
Fired Up 4 Kate (@MiloandJack) tweeted at 8:13 PM on Mon, Oct 01, 2012:
@deannatweeting @Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 Iguess someone4got 2tell poor RobertHoffman that #PennMommy was hater figment of imagination!
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Hmmm so who reads here? Deanna or Milo?
butterfly said... 131
abc said... 109
Beth 61
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Heartboken for the kids said... 3
Not a Robert fan said... 183
And what about him calling her racist? I found that part of the book a little off. Anyone else? I thought he was reaching there.
I respectfully disagree. Telling her children to call the African American bodyguard "Mr. Chocolate" sounds racist to me.
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And what about her "African doctor"? I am not one who usually thinks that if ya NOTICE skin color it automatically makes you a racist, but I think Kate has a million and one reasons why every human on this planet annoys her and is beneath her and race is one of those reasons.
I've started re-reading the book from the beginning (and no skimming and skipping this time!), and have made it to chapter 7, which deals with money and Kate's belief in the prosperity movement. I've known people that believe in that, and that's fine, different strokes for different folks.
I do believe she followed this prosperity belief. You can read her journal entries and see how she thanks God for all the opportunities given to them due to the tv show...but as the 'seasons' go on, and the money starts pouring in, she starts to change, and not for the better. She relied on God and her husband, and later on she only relied on herself.Somewhere in there she told God and Jon she could take it from there.
Her greed,her love of money ruined her relationship with her family and her husband. And in a sense it ruined her relationship with her 'littles' too, because she saw them as a meal ticket.
As the bible says, 'it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the gates of Heaven.'
Kate may think she 'has it all', when in fact she threw it all away.
back to reading!
#kategosselin is still a bitch
I can't believe the sheep defending Khate in spite of this scandal. They must be either brainwashed or brain dead (or both). Has a scintilla of doubt entered their woolly skulls?? Even a little bit? How do they shut off the little voice that should be saying...."What if some of this stuff is true?"....I wonder had this book been a tell-all about Jon, with all of the SAME revelations, would they still shout, "Blasphemy!"??? If the answer is "NO" then, that shows the true SICKNESS of these delusional ovine. They all deserve each other and Khate. They should be made to live together...in the same barn!
I find it very telling that an anonymous poster's best criticism of Robert's book is a possibly untrue yogurt story. Based on that miniscule (one mention) reference , the poster claims the rest of the content must be ignored/disbelieved. Bzzzzzzst! Sorry, your attempt to discredit the truth has failed.
..and I found her calling the man 'Mr. Chocolate" highly offensive, btw.
...and telling her kids to call him that, too....
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Beth said... 13
butterfly said... 131
abc said... 109
Beth 61
Try this. It worked well for me, Takes a while to download the book though.
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That one costs $$ but it did work- won't reveal how I found out, but let's just say friends are so helpful ;)
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I'm beginning to think that Deanna is as fruity as Milo.
Marie
16 retweets? can you all see the big old silly grin on my face? It's worse than we thought.
As for Robert's stalker-ish behavior, I prefer to think of it as being thorough in his research. He knew where the information was and waited until it was legally available to get it.
dee3 said... 43
@Dwindle....I apologize
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dee3!!! no problem at all!
So Kate has Deanna accusing Robert of being a stalker and a pedophile. And Discovery issued an official statement attacking Paul Petersen's integrity. Robert even said they would ignore, then attack his character. Next comes the lawsuit filings for money damages.
Sooo...the bitch really did threaten the kids with losing their home and the only school they've known if they didn't perform well for the show!! Wowzer. We speculated about that but damn! How evil this monster is. Maybe there really was "wailing and sobbing x 8"....but for a much sadder reason. Their lives sound so awful. Thank God they have Jon.
Also, her journals and emails demonstrate her descent into madness. She sounds sicker as time goes on.
Someone tweeted Kate today and said "I'm in labor!! Can I get a retweet???!!!" She also tweet the same to all the Kardashians, all the Real Housewives and several other celebrities. Some of Kate's tweeties wished her good luck and she later tweeted to one of them that the baby had arrived.
You're having a baby and all you can think of is tweeting to celebrities?
This I think is typical of a lot of Kate's followers. They follow and tweet to a lot of celebrites, not only Kate, hoping despite hope to get a tweet. But Kate thinks they love her and only her.
wayward said... 186
...Kate writes in her own journal about throwing her kids in the crib, pulling them up by the hair and spanking them very hard. For m&ms? Having a potty accident on the floor? Getting out of their crib before the 4 hour "nap" was over? Oh, no big whoop, we beat our kids too. Many books recommend it
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that reminds me of her journaling about Axxxx squatting and pooping in the dining room of the old house where they potty trained. Apparently she was already over there and screaming and poopy was still coming out of him. She claims she cleaned it with toothpics... whatever.
I couldnt figure this out, how this toddler did this until later there is another entry about how she discovered pullups and had to use them for the rest of potty training because some of the kids were just letting pee stream down their legs all over her floor instead of going to the potty seat. This says to me she was potty training by keeping them naked from the waist down?? How else was Axxxx squatting and pooping for minutes all over the floor?
I dont know, I never potty trained 3 at a time, but she sure went about it differently than i did. And Robert ridicules the skimpy M&M treats for potty training, 1 for pee, 2 for poopy, but that is exactly what I used. (Except for 1 kid I used Reese's Pieces.)
The very few people that support Kate are about as sick as she is. They are so thrilled that a so called celebrity tweets them that they will support her no matter how horrible her actions. What sad lives they must have. Hangeroners is what they are...but what the hell are they hanging on to? A miserable, mean, rude , narcissistic witch who has alienated every good person in her life. She will end up a miserable old hag with no one. I hope her children take pity on her, though I certainly wouldn't blame them if they did not. She does not deserve those kids and they surely deserved a better mother than Kate
There are actually some pretty darn funny things in this book, such as Kate's list for Judy the nanny:
"Teach table manners (chew with mouth closed, eat neatly, sitting properly)."
Um, Kate, um, did you watch that video of yourself at the head of the table in your house, slouched, with both arms on the table (practically lying on the table) shoveling in the food? I guess if you don't have table manners yourself, you have to rely on the nanny to teach the kids!
We've never seen Kate in any episode displaying any kind of table manners whatsoever. What an example to the children!
Maybe the nanny should have taught Kate how to keep her mouth closed when chewing gum, or to get rid of the gum altogether! Her impersonation of a cow chewing its cud is so disgusting.
My stupid Kindle question #24984932. I really wish I didn't have to always expose how dense I am about computers, but I am dense so may as well admit it.
http://www.ebook-converter.com/kindle-pc-converter.htm
I read the instructions at the link, and think I understand them, but am I correct that the instructions are from an actual Kindle? I never had a kindle in the first place, and downloaded the free Kindle thingie from Amazon.com. My book is in my documents, but can only be opened via the thing from Amazon.com Would the converter work for me?
I'm convincing myself that I'm NOT going to be embarrassed about asking...after all, I'm older than dirt, and am proud of being able to do what I can do on the computer!!
Formerly Duped said... 31
Kate now claiming only one TV, none in bedrooms/ She never learns- lying is a wrong. And many of her lies are so silly, pointless. I know she said she and the 'big girls' watched cooking shows in her lair.
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Wait. Hold the phone. It was just a few weeks ago she said the kids are not allowed downstairs until all 6 of them are up, dressed and ready for breakfast. Until then they PUT IN A DVD IN THEIR ROOMS!!!!!
Now here comes split-a-hair kate who will tell us it is NOT a TV it is a DVD player.
She cant tell reality from her spin on her own fantasies. this is really frightening.
Regarding her upcoming runs for coupon cabin to support breast cancer, CC will donate up to 5000 for breast cancer but they willnpay way more than that for her to attend both races. Seems they care more about themselves and promoting Kate than really supporting breast cancer. Yes I can be snarky since I am a survivor
Remona Blue, I downloaded mine from the Kindle app on my PC.
So yes, it will work for you. :)
Hey-I just noticed the new background color here is the same as my kitchen counters!
Does anyone know how many of Robert's books were sold before they were pulled?
And like I said before, kate's sheeples must be very un-educated, sad part is that they probably have children of their own. Wonder if they beat on thir kids, so they can be as wonderful parents as they think she is.
Love all your comments. You guys are good. Went to INF and Kate does look bad. The lines on her cheeks when she smiles really make her look sunken. And the protruding collarbone makes me think she has lost even more weight. However, she still has the thick thighs. And what the hell does she carry in that purse. Her back must kill her at the end of the day. And did you notice that Mady was carrying a big bag/purse as well.
wayward...198 Kate as a hot mama dressed like a two-bit hooker. Yeah, let's reinvent her image by having her dress like the ladies of the evening. Good one! Women look sexy as hell and they dress appropriately. Kate would be perfect on Fashion Police's segment, Starlet or Streetwalker.
I figured out what Discovery's trade secret is. Reality TV is NOT real. Ssshhh. We don't want that to get out.
Every time I see "Are you there God it's me Kate" I think of Judy Bloom and Are yo there God it's me Margaret. Margaret tried to increase her bust with exercise...I must I must I must increase my bust. Kate just did it the easy way.
What's Next? said... 11
Yikes, the ad at the top of my pages says "Fix Defiant ODD children. Stop defiance, backtalking, lying. The Total Transformation Program"
Gosh, I hope they don't use Kate's techniques. No wait, her techniques cause that type of behaviour.
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Stepanie is only a few miles away, perhaps she can deal with the defiant behavior?
Gingerbread -- More advantages of the Kindle -- it comes with 3G, which means that 99% of the time, you can get an internet connection, whether you have WiFi or not (Not all Kindle versions have 3G, though. If you want it, make sure you're getting the correct version). If you don't have a stable WiFi connection where you are located, that can be a godsend. Kindle has far more books available and far more free books available than the Nook. The Nook does not come with 3G and, at this time, they have no plans to make one with it (I know, because I asked B & N just last week). OTOH, the Nook color is spectacular for things like magazines, books with color pictures, etc. However, if you're thinking of getting a Kindle Fire, that has color. Also, the Kindle Fire is a tablet, more like an ipad, where the Nook is not. I have the best of both worlds, actually, because I downloaded the free Nook app to my laptop and I own a Kindle.
OT -- Since this is Banned Book Week -- the following are a few books that have been challenged or banned:
Exodus -- by Leon Uris
To Kill a Mockingbird -- by Harper Lee
The Little House on the Prairie -- by Laura Ingalls Wilder
the Harry Potter books -- by J. K. Rowling
The Holy Bible
The Koran
The Talmud
The Bastard -- by John Jakes
Huckleberry Finn -- by Mark Twain
Are You There, God? It's Me, Margaret -- by Judy Blume
A Wrinkle In Time -- by Madeleine L'Engle
The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe -- by C.S. Lewis
Improbable Dreams said... 173
Just me ~ A good point, and I'm one who likes to explore ideas from all angles, too. But when someone bores in on a small(ish) point, at the expense of the larger issues, I grow suspicious about their intent. I'd be happy to be proven wrong here.
Which of RH's sources, for instance, do they/you find credible?
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I don't know which or what to believe. I am familiar with the PennMommy story so I know it is not true that he talked to her. It makes me question other 'sources' he did or did not talk to. I am particulary disturbed about the claim Robert makes about Kate having an abortion. That is pretty harsh statement to make without any proof.
Thank you Beth for your prompt response!!
Dwindle, I baby sat my great-granddaughter from age two to four, a couple of years ago and I swear that is my favorite age of all. They learn SO much so quickly. She learned her colors and numbers in Spanish and English at the same time. It was so much fun watching her face as she decided if she was going to mind me or not....you could just SEE her mind working. We did time outs...without ONE raised voice or spat from me.
Got sidetracked...when we started potty training, we got pull ups that she called ''Dora's'', because we got Dora the Explorer pull ups. I also rewarded her peeing w/her choice of a goldfish or a malted ball, and a scoop of ice cream for poop. We didn't move to training panties for quite some time, and when we did, we got her little silky panties...she was such a girly-girl.
I think that maybe Axxxx peed in his training pants outside, and took them off before coming into the house
It took a few months for us to potty train our sweetie, and when I read Kate say that he'd had FIVE DAYS, and he should have been able to control his functions better, I was filled with such rage that I thought I was going to throw up!!
Cripes!! I should have cut out about 90% of the last thing I posted! Sorry everyone!
In one bit of her journal-o-abuse Khate says something about the girls are watching or seeing how badly she is hurting one of the kids. Does she mean the twins? Psych professionals have finally decided that a child whom has been forced to watch a parent hit another is emotional abuse for that child. It makes sense that the same would go for watching a parent abuse a sibling.
KG was casted on the wrong TLC Show. Maybe she was meant to be on My Big Fat Gyspy Wedding with her parents and siblings. She acts a lot like the Irish Travelers with the way she was brought up and with all the scams, begging and grifting.
Pressi has the family listed and linked where even her sisters and their husbands are grifting for money and gifts.
In the book, How She Fooled The World, SHE stated that her own dad stole $250, from the money collected for his daughter in the offering plate. And he was sued or charged for something he did wrong.
At least KG could have played her real reality self, instead of a scripted wanna be actress for the real-ish reality show ever, had she been on the Gypsy show.
You look bad in the new INF Pics. You and the kids look worn out and tired. Let them get some rest from taking care of the 6 abd school. Get off your but and do some mothering.
HELLO ...Kate Gosselin, where is Shoka?
Here's something interesting. In Robert's book, Kate mentions that she had a good dinner (organic) at a hotel in Lancaster, but didn't remember the name. It would have been the John J. Jeffries organic cuisine restaurant at the Lancaster Arts Hotel. In an e-mail to a "Angela" she wants to make sure that Steve is comfortable during a trip and says that she wants him to check in or out and hang "there without feeling uncomfortable (thinking of our studio at Lanc arts)."
Why would she and Steve have a studio at the Lancaster Arts Hotel? One of the room accommodations is the studio queen. It's a very nice place...website is under Lancaster Arts Hotel.
Dwindle said... 26
wayward said... 186
...Kate writes in her own journal about throwing her kids in the crib, pulling them up by the hair and spanking them very hard. For m&ms? Having a potty accident on the floor? Getting out of their crib before the 4 hour "nap" was over? Oh, no big whoop, we beat our kids too. Many books recommend it
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that reminds me of her journaling about Axxxx squatting and pooping in the dining room of the old house where they potty trained. Apparently she was already over there and screaming and poopy was still coming out of him. She claims she cleaned it with toothpics... whatever.
I couldnt figure this out, how this toddler did this until later there is another entry about how she discovered pullups and had to use them for the rest of potty training because some of the kids were just letting pee stream down their legs all over her floor instead of going to the potty seat. This says to me she was potty training by keeping them naked from the waist down?? How else was Axxxx squatting and pooping for minutes all over the floor?
I dont know, I never potty trained 3 at a time, but she sure went about it differently than i did. And Robert ridicules the skimpy M&M treats for potty training, 1 for pee, 2 for poopy, but that is exactly what I used. (Except for 1 kid I used Reese's Pieces.)
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When my kid was potty training, I would let run naked during the day when no one was home, and only in the beginning. Also, she was 18 -21 months (summer time) AND inside the house- no prying eyes! No treats or rewards for her though, just a "good job" and a smile.
A Wrinkle in Time made the list? That's the book that forever changed my life- HONESTLY- it's the first all word book I read, it was summer after 1st grade and I could not put the book down. It was so exciting! And that ignited my passion for reading. I have been an avid reader ever since, you know the type, reading at the kitchen table during meals getting yelled at by mom, checking out 14 books from the library- that was me. I have read all of Madeleine L'Engle's young author books since that summer. It's a Newberry Award winner for crying out loud. I still have a copy I keep because of what it means to me. Corny, I know.
From Kate's own website, in her blog called My Spider Hero dated Oct. 22, 2011:
"Many of you may remember a night last week when I tweeted that there was a spider in my bedroom that I was trying to convince Mady and Cara to exterminate for me. Well, that spider scampered underneath my TV cabinet before the girls could decide if they were brave enough OR develop a plan.
Proof she lied about having only one TV. Maybe she doesn't subscribe to Showtime, and just made up that excuse why she wasn't watching Dexter last night. She probably only watched Dexter on DVD's, not on TV.
Paige said she didn't have Showtime either and couldn't watch Dexter last night, but she would watch it online. Hate to tell ya, Paige, but in order to watch it online you have to be a subscriber.
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Tamara said... 54
Jon is only allowed at the house on certain days and if he can’t make it to the house at exactly the time when he’s scheduled to be there, Kate punishes him by canceling his custody all together.
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That's not legal, is it?
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No it's not.
However, the usual and customary laws of society and our judicial system only apply to the other 314,496,100 citizens of the United States. Kate Gosselin is exempt from any type of law abiding.
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Ha. Make that 314,496,102, the woman across the street from me had twins an hour ago.
What I meant was that if Khate pulled that couldn't Jon just go to his lawyer or the judge?
Butterfly, it was See Spot Run For Me, With Dick and Jane. lol Loved that book in kindergarten, and then the Nancy Drew Series when a little older. Would not put them down.
Remona Blue said... 41
Cripes!! I should have cut out about 90% of the last thing I posted! Sorry everyone!
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Oh, I enjoyed your post.
I went right to cotton training pants. Generally was 2 weeks before we started see daily EUREKA! moments. 3 weeks before we could move into big girl/boy underwear. Except my 2nd child - big sister had Wonderwoman Underoos! so it only took that one 5 quick days at 23 months old, she wanted underoos so badly! sigh... such memories, I would give a year of my life to have that back again for just a day.
I think I am going to copy and paste several of the key child about sentences in Kate's own words. Sheeple want to dicker over who did or did not take a yogurt from a refrigerator and how that means Robert is a stalker and pedophile, I will merely reply with their Queen's lovely journal words.
Yeah... that's the ticket.
awww man, I changed my avatar but only part is showing up and it is so perfect-
Trust the Lies, Not the 'Truth'
LOL
Is collecting retweets the new, and IMO lesser, replacement for collecting autographs?
I think I may be asking an obvious question, but during the time that K writes that she was beating the kids for toilet training issues, was she alone with them? Or did she have help? And if she had help, why did she let herself get so angry? Could she not just go to another room to take a deep breath - even go for a 5 min walk if there was someone else there for the kids? I remember reading somewhere that Kate had never really been alone with the kids - that there was always some other helper around. And if there were other people around, couldn't they talk her out of her rage?
Am I just confused?
I guess the sheeple assume Robert just wrote Kate's journal himself?
I'm not sure if this has been said before but that would be one amazing piece of writing if so. Given that it's obvious he's not a writer, which he freely admits to, I find this unlikely. The journals are identical to Kate's style of writing in her tweets and on her blogs. And the things she talks about are without a doubt coming from a woman. For instance Kate's reflection on Jen remarking that she and Jon don't kiss much. I just can't see a man understanding why a comment like that would be significant to a woman. I can't see a man being able to make something like that up, not one who isn't a very good writer to begin with.
Parent In Lancaster County said... 44
Here's something interesting. In Robert's book, Kate mentions that she had a good dinner (organic) at a hotel in Lancaster, but didn't remember the name. It would have been the John J. Jeffries organic cuisine restaurant at the Lancaster Arts Hotel. In an e-mail to a "Angela" she wants to make sure that Steve is comfortable during a trip and says that she wants him to check in or out and hang "there without feeling uncomfortable (thinking of our studio at Lanc arts)."
Why would she and Steve have a studio at the Lancaster Arts Hotel? One of the room accommodations is the studio queen. It's a very nice place...website is under Lancaster Arts Hotel.
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Like Robert says..who knows with these two. Nobody even cares/talks about it anymore. So yesterday news about him and KG. They are getting older this last year, and really look it too.
He might have gotten what what he wanted and he is slowly moving on fromher mentally.
No not that "want", he got her to sign on the dotted line with his big fat name to be in charge of it all.
She is so easy to prey upon to be such a stark raving angry hard headed bull. She has no education/family to fall back on.
Psych professionals have finally decided that a child whom has been forced to watch a parent hit another is emotional abuse for that child. It makes sense that the same would go for watching a parent abuse a sibling.
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There is a new study out of Duke that even suggests that domestic violence may erode a child's DNA causing premature aging. Much like smoking erodes DNA.
I believe those are Kate's journals and emails. It is just the side stories that Robert inserts that I am having a hard time with especially after reading the PennMommy interview he claims to have had.
I think someone here said he should have just printed the emails and journals.
. That is pretty harsh statement to make without any proof.
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How would there be proof though? Especially for something so long ago. He said he talked to a sibling about this one.
I am the first to say that's gone too far, but for the fact that her infertility has always been questionable. I get that some women end up infertile after successful pregnancies but she didn't even try to get pregnant the natural way.
And where's her libel suit? I would think that would be an open and shut case for libel if that's not true, that's pretty serious.
I believe those are Kate's journals and emails. It is just the side stories that Robert inserts that I am having a hard time with especially after reading the PennMommy interview he claims to have had.
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He never said he interviewed Penn Mommy. He said he talked to a church goer.
This story was out in 2009 in the tabloids, when they wanted copy from Robert nearly every issue. Speculating here, I can see pulling a story that appeared to be verified from the internet when you're short on copy that week. It's not what you would hope a good journalist would do, but I can see it happening during a slow news week. Or, I can see a bad source showing up in the bunch, it happens. It's really not that big of a deal and I don't see how it casts doubt on everything else, i'm not following that. It seems to me the guy was collecting as much information as he possibly could and when you're on that kind of mission, there is that chance that one or two pieces of information are wrong or misconstrued. You do the best you can. LIke I said I'd love to see a much shorter, tighter book focusing mainly on Kate's own words, but it's not my book.
As someone else said, I don't really care that much what Robert's opinion is on things, no offense meant, but I prefer to get all the information and then make my own opinion instead of someone telling me how to think about it. This is how I prefer most of my non fiction books. I've read a couple Kitty Kelly books for bubblegum guilty pleasure reading and I like her style. She gives you the information but doesn't provide commentary really. Her book on the royals, called The Royals is considered definitive.
The cast of Gold Rush will also be on Katie Couric's show. One of them tweeted yesterday:
Todd Hoffman@goldrushtodd
I will be in New York this week with my dad and Dozer Dave.
and today he tweeted:
Todd Hoffman@goldrushtodd
I'm going to wear my wet T-shirt on Katie Couric
So that seems to settle the question whether the show had been taped before the book came out.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 58
I am the first to say that's gone too far, but for the fact that her infertility has always been questionable. I get that some women end up infertile after successful pregnancies but she didn't even try to get pregnant the natural way.
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And if she was so damn infertile, why did Jon get a vasectomy after the tups?
Where's the outrage over Kate's behavior? WTF is in the water in these parts of Pennsylvania?
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In breeding?
Just kidding, I love PA. It's really not PA. The fact is there are still an alarming, alarming amount of people out there who are not interested in putting children first. This is still one scary world for a child to live in.
But the main problem with books like Kitty Kelly's, and other "unauthorized" types is that what they write isn't always fact. Sometimes their text, or large portions of it, isn't even approaching fact. It's 1000km away begging it's stubborn hubby to ask for directions just to get 5 turns closer to Looks Something Like Truth Lane.
So they "win" by admitting the writings are Kate's and Discovery's. Now that so many people have the book, how is that a win?
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Someone said they may not have advised her to do this but she made them do it anyway. You can give the best advice in the world but if your client doesn't want to take it and wants to do something else, you usually have to just do what they want.....there are some exceptions to this like trial strategy etc or doing something illegal, but this isn't one of them.
Poor Mady gets dragged to Alaska against her will but Kate couldn't go, what was it, "hither, dither & yon" for Aaden, Joel and Collin's special days.
But the main problem with books like Kitty Kelly's, and other "unauthorized" types is that what they write isn't always fact. Sometimes their text, or large portions of it, isn't even approaching fact.
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Well that's your opinion. Some people are wiling to accept some of it might at the end of the day not be accurate for the value or hope that most of it is true. Some authors are better than others. Kitty Kelly has a reputation for her books being remarkably accurate. She has been doing this 30 years, been sued countless times, and never lost. I think there is arguably some value in pulling back the veil on celebrity shenanigans. Even on exposing things we probably didn't need to know like that Laura Bush is a chain smoker. I'm not a big believer in protecting these people, yes, even if one or two of the stories aren't accurate. Oh well, don't be a celebrity then. It's as simple as that.
On that note, had Kate gone away when the show was cancelled I doubt Robert would have pursued this book.
LMAO, we "naysayers" are wrong. We've said that Kate has only 6 fans, but it looks like she has 16. Here's the "proof". They're always good for a laugh!
stxmom
@kateplusmy8 all Kate & 8 supporters RT this, naysayers say she only has 6 supporters, prove them wrong #supportkate&her8 @kateplusmy8
Retweeted by Fired Up 4 Kate
16 Retweets
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Now THAT was funny!
By the way is anyone kind of excited at the fact that Abby Lee Miller could be in the same room as Kate Gosselin? She eats people like Kate for breakfast.
How would there be proof though? Especially for something so long ago. He said he talked to a sibling about this one.
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He says he talked to a sibling. No sibling of Kate's has talked to anyone except for Kevin. I don't think Kevin or any of the other family members would have talked to a tabloid reporter about Kate having an abortion. I am sure they have been approached by many of them. They don't strike me as the type of family to reveal something so personal when they have never commented on anything else.
As far as Robert saying he talked to a church member? Who just happened to have the same story as PennMommy.
On that note, had Kate gone away when the show was cancelled I doubt Robert would have pursued this book.
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Admin, I cannot believe you think that way! In other words do what I want and I won't write about you. Isn't that extortion? By Robert's own account he has been gathering 'evidence' for years. He still has her garbage in his basement from last Christmas! If she goes away what will he want from her next?
So don't believe it then, Just Me. That's your right. But how do you know none of the siblings would talk and that Kevin wouldn't talk? You don't know these people, or do you? I sure don't know them to say that with any certainty. It's funny we think we "know" people because they were on a few episodes of the show. We've probably spent all of 20 minutes of "screen time" with Kevin. We don't "know" him at all.
I just don't understand why Kate wouldn't sue him immediately for such a claim if it weren't true.
Admin, I cannot believe you think that way! In other words do what I want and I won't write about you. Isn't that extortion?
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Noooo....that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that celebrities choose to be celebrities, and if they don't want tell all's written about them, they have a choice to not be a celebrity and go live normally and then interest will wane. No, I don't think anyone would be writing books about her if she just disappeared, those kind of books don't go anywhere. People lose interest FAST if you disappear. It would have been Kate who? within weeks.
Kate CHOSE to be a celebrity and Kate is choosing to remain public. This is her choice and she has to take the bad with the good.
I can't feel much sympathy for a celebrity complaining about a tell all. Wow how tragical for you. Go use your millions as a tissue.
I've got a question. All I know about Penn Mommy is that she was posting on some blog back a good time ago and people believed her and she turned out to be taking everyone for a ride. Something about a sick son and people feeling pity for her and sending money or something like that. Not positive, but that's what I vaguely remember.
Now fast forward to RH's book and the yogurt. RH says a church goer told him about that. What's the tie-in to Penn Mommy? I mean, even if Penn Mommy said that, too, does that preclude her from hearing the yogurt story somewhere else and repeating it on that blog? Does this church goer have to necessarily be Penn Mommy?
I just don't understand how this would show that the book was poorly researched. I don't claim to know all the missing pieces and characters from that long ago, so if you explain I might better understand why this is important.
"Many of you may remember a night last week when I tweeted that there was a spider in my bedroom that I was trying to convince Mady and Cara to exterminate for me. Well, that spider scampered underneath my TV cabinet before the girls could decide if they were brave enough OR develop a plan.
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Good catch. Of course she's lying. This is what she does for a living.
I suppose the sheeple will say maybe she has a TV cabinet without the TV? I guess that's what happens to them when they don't make the payments....I'm feeling snarky tonight.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 68
By the way is anyone kind of excited at the fact that Abby Lee Miller could be in the same room as Kate Gosselin? She eats people like Kate for breakfast.
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We can sure hope!
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 68
By the way is anyone kind of excited at the fact that Abby Lee Miller could be in the same room as Kate Gosselin? She eats people like Kate for breakfast.
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LOL! I don't think Kate would be at the top of Abby's pyramid.
Michelle said... 61
''And if she was so damn infertile, why did Jon get a vasectomy after the tups?''
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My first thought was that there was no way on God's green earth that Jon would ever trust her to not giving herself more HCG shots!!
I've got a question. All I know about Penn Mommy is that she was posting on some blog back a good time ago and people believed her and she turned out to be taking everyone for a ride.
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Not everyone believed her or cared that much about her but those people never get any credit. It kind of has went down in history as the woman who fooled the world and that's really not that true. Many people thought something was off with her form day one but were poo-pooed by some powerful GWOP people at the time.
I have the book. I read the book.
Leah. Strep pneumonia? I had HUS flashback. Life measured in latest platelet counts and creatin levels. Chest tube. Dialysis. Transfusions. Fever. So many meds. Multiple tube lines going in and out. Less than 50/50 chance given. Doctors said was out of their hands. Not even 2 years ago. That our GS survived is a TRUE miracle.
I read this passage that seems so negligent on Kate's part. I threw up. Literally. Twice.
Am done for awhile.
Too soon for me, I guess.
I just don't understand why Kate wouldn't sue him immediately for such a claim if it weren't true
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If you believe that am I to assume that if Kate sues you will believe that what Robert wrote (other than her journals and emails)is false?
If you believe that am I to assume that if Kate sues you will believe that what Robert wrote (other than her journals and emails)is false?
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It would cast some doubt on it that's for sure. You're not supposed to file frivolous lawsuits. We'd have to see if she'd win. Time will tell.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 66
''....On that note, had Kate gone away when the show was cancelled I doubt Robert would have pursued this book.
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I'm going to disagree on this point, Admin. I really believe that the moment Robert read what she had done to those babies, in her own words, he was unable to let it go. He is a father, and had actually spent time with those children. Knew them, interacted with them. He also was friends with Jon He had seen first hand what Kate had done to them all, and once he saw the journal...he had a way to try to help them.
I look at unauthorized bios this way. In 5th grade I did a report on Teddy Roosevelt. But like any fifth grader it wasn't perfect, I messed up a few dates I think and misspelled something. But I still got an A because it was substantially correct. The fact that I was wrong about a few things doesn't mean everything else I said wasn't correct and good.
You can't choose to have a "career" in public and expect to stay private.Not when you are relying on the "public" to keep your pay checks coming.
You can't choose to have a "career" in public and expect to stay private.Not when you are relying on the "public" to keep your pay checks coming.
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Agree, and especially when you make your entire career about your parenting and being a mom. We have every right to pull back the veil on the scam. How she parents has a DIRECT bearing on her entire image and couldn't be more relevant.
If someone has a career doing, say, lounge singing that has absolutely nothing to do with their kids and never talks about their kids or exposes them to the press, there is an argument a book about their parenting maybe isn't appropriate.
Remember that a long time ago Jon implied that he knew something about Kate from before she met him that no one else knew. The implication being that it would not be good if he revealed it.
We speculated a lot about it at the time, but never came up with anything that felt right.
Waddya wanna bet it was the abortion?
Remember that a long time ago Jon implied that he knew something about Kate from before she met him that no one else knew. The implication being that it would not be good if he revealed it.
We speculated a lot about it at the time, but never came up with anything that felt right.
Waddya wanna bet it was the abortion?
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Bingo. Wow. I've always had the feeling he knows a lot of dark secrets about her and has struggled with whether to reveal them.
I respectfully disagree. Telling her children to call the African American bodyguard "Mr. Chocolate" sounds racist to me.
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I'm not going to disagree, however sometimes I feel like there is a difference between racism and just plain ignorance.
Just me ~ you act as if you know Kate's siblings personally. Is that so? If not, then your comment that none of Kate's sibs would talk to Hoffman and share details is mere speculation. If you like Kate and choose to ignore her own words about the abuse she inflicts on her children, that's too bad.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 84
I look at unauthorized bios this way. In 5th grade I did a report on Teddy Roosevelt. But like any fifth grader it wasn't perfect, I messed up a few dates I think and misspelled something. But I still got an A because it was substantially correct. The fact that I was wrong about a few things doesn't mean everything else I said wasn't correct and good.
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I got A's on reports in grade school too, doesn't mean I can write like a Pulizer prize contender now.
Robert's book was poorly written and sourced. If I had turned in a report like Robert's book in high school I would have gotten a D, at the most. What Robert wrote was irresponsible.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 86
You can't choose to have a "career" in public and expect to stay private.Not when you are relying on the "public" to keep your pay checks coming.
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Agree, and especially when you make your entire career about your parenting and being a mom. We have every right to pull back the veil on the scam. How she parents has a DIRECT bearing on her entire image and couldn't be more relevant.
If someone has a career doing, say, lounge singing that has absolutely nothing to do with their kids and never talks about their kids or exposes them to the press, there is an argument a book about their parenting maybe isn't appropriate.
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Kate isnt really parenting, she is lipsynching like Milli Vanilli. Since WE the buying public are paying her salaries in the form of higher product prices, we have every right to know if she is the talented expert she claims to be. And she is still just lip synching.
Not only that but she beats babies.
Robert's book was poorly written and sourced. If I had turned in a report like Robert's book in high school I would have gotten a D, at the most. What Robert wrote was irresponsible.
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What does that have to do with child abuse?
Child abuse is child abuse whether you misspell it or use the wrong grammar or what.
He's a bystander, not a journalist or writer, and freely admits it.
Just me said... 91
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 84
I look at unauthorized bios this way. In 5th grade I did a report on Teddy Roosevelt. But like any fifth grader it wasn't perfect, I messed up a few dates I think and misspelled something. But I still got an A because it was substantially correct. The fact that I was wrong about a few things doesn't mean everything else I said wasn't correct and good.
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I got A's on reports in grade school too, doesn't mean I can write like a Pulizer prize contender now.
Robert's book was poorly written and sourced. If I had turned in a report like Robert's book in high school I would have gotten a D, at the most. What Robert wrote was irresponsible
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"I pulled Collin up by the hair."
"I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him."
Sxxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 will nvr forget the "hi mommy" welcome home from 1 of the girls, just a baby after your surgery!
"...it’s important to realize that her babies were in diapers in their cribs, and were the very same age as when the above abusive quotes of beatings by Kate occurred."
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 7611-7627). . Kindle Edition.
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Location 7524). . Kindle Edition.
'Hi mommy. Hi mommy'. Yeah mommy is home after her free tummy tuck and TOMORROW she will lift your by your baby hair and whip you severely. THAT is the age the INFANTS were when kate journaled the above events.
I never said the Hoffman book wasn't fact. Didn't mean to imply that.
Which is worse? Doing a relatively decent but amateurish job in writing a tell all book, or
Beating your toddler babies with a wooden spoon for acting like toddlers, yanking one up by the hair,and otherwise being a vile human and worst mother?
It seems one among us would pick the first one. Hmmmmm.
Kate is a twit said... 46
From Kate's own website, in her blog called My Spider Hero dated Oct. 22, 2011:
"Many of you may remember a night last week when I tweeted that there was a spider in my bedroom that I was trying to convince Mady and Cara to exterminate for me. Well, that spider scampered underneath my TV cabinet before the girls could decide if they were brave enough OR develop a plan.
Proof she lied about having only one TV. Maybe she doesn't subscribe to Showtime, and just made up that excuse why she wasn't watching Dexter last night. She probably only watched Dexter on DVD's, not on TV.
Paige said she didn't have Showtime either and couldn't watch Dexter last night, but she would watch it online. Hate to tell ya, Paige, but in order to watch it online you have to be a subscriber.
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That's not true. There are a number of sites on the internet where you can watch virtually EVERY tv program aired anywhere in the world for free - including pay networks like HBO and Showtime. I do it all the time. I'm guessing that Kate dvr'd Dexter and would watch it at another time.
I can't feel much sympathy for a celebrity complaining about a tell all. Wow how tragical for you. Go use your millions as a tissue.
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Or in Khate's case use your children's millions as a tissue, grift free tissue, force your children to use one tissue between the 8 for a year, then try to clean the used tissue and resell it.
BTW Admin, Tragical is an awesome word lol.
Child abuse is minimal when a man might be lying about yogurt.
ENABLERS, forget about ALL ROBERT'S WORDS. What do think about how, self-addmittedly, Kate treated her 2 year Old's and if you even realize how lucky they are to still be alive?
I think they would defend her even if she killed one of her kids. I can't believe defending an abuser trumps safety for the children they so love to know know about.
One of the girls (not H) pooped during nap time so Kate, "woke her in my angry voice."
My kids are teenagers and I still try to wake them sweetly.
I wish she'd just leave them and flee the country.
cherier1 said... 67
LMAO, we "naysayers" are wrong. We've said that Kate has only 6 fans, but it looks like she has 16. Here's the "proof". They're always good for a laugh!
stxmom
@kateplusmy8 all Kate & 8 supporters RT this, naysayers say she only has 6 supporters, prove them wrong #supportkate&her8 @kateplusmy8
Retweeted by Fired Up 4 Kate
16 Retweets
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Now THAT was funny!
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What's even funnier, (TY SeeSaw and What's Next for pointing out what I'd overlooked) is that because so many of her fans have multiple twitter accounts and probably retweeted from each one, our figure of 6 is closer to the real number after all -- which makes this even funnier!
PiggyPie_ said... 99
Child abuse is minimal when a man might be lying about yogurt
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Well, and yogurt-rumors lead to stalking... and that can lead to non organic M&M's... horrors.
"Hi Mommy Hi Mommy" Later that very week Mommy will lift you by your hair, you monster, and beat you has hard as she can.
"Hi Mommy Hi Mommy..." "Is Mommy pretty?" you had better repeat 'pretty' or mommy will lift you by your hair and hit you with a wooden spoon until you 'shake so hard with fear or something.'
Did anyone hear about the video that was supposedly sent to Katie Couric, after the runners blog that was written telling what really happened marathon day? Of KG being picked up on a scooter, driven by Steve N., after she passed each point, and was driven to the finish line, and she only got off 500 ft before she crossed on her own, into the arms of JMC? The race was in LV where she said she ran the 26 mile R&R Marathon? Those real runners are pis* off.
Bet JMC will never let them show it. The comments stated there was a video, but can't find it on u tube yet.
KG, if this is true, why do you lie and cheat? What is the point? Does it make you feel special that you get one over on people, or are you just that lazy? You get paid to do a job, and you always appear to do things half ass after all is said and done.
Interview with KC will be so fluff, and JMC and SN off to the side, standing there proudly guarding their little protege and all of her fine accomplishments. NOBU for lunch, shopping, and a visit to the toy store and hotel with SN, for the rest of the week on the agenda? Topics will include the next great Marathons coming up, CC, and of course the brand, 8 if em.
Parody 1 & 2: Dad, why did you lie for that woman? Did you cheat on Mom with her? Did you stay with her for the money or the fame? Was she or the money more important than mom or us? We already have plenty of money dad. Did you see her abuse her babies dad? People are asking me, and I need to know what to say.
Mom, we are 15 years old, when can we go on the Internet or go to the mall with our friends? Can we start learning how to ride our bikes off the property yet?
Sorry if this has already been posted. K8ts twitter is "private" now. Guess she had more haters than she thought. hahahahahahahahaha!!!
The twit's tweets said... 97
Kate is a twit said... 46
From Kate's own website, in her blog called My Spider Hero dated Oct. 22, 2011:
"Many of you may remember a night last week when I tweeted that there was a spider in my bedroom that I was trying to convince Mady and Cara to exterminate for me. Well, that spider scampered underneath my TV cabinet before the girls could decide if they were brave enough OR develop a plan.
Proof she lied about having only one TV. Maybe she doesn't subscribe to Showtime, and just made up that excuse why she wasn't watching Dexter last night. She probably only watched Dexter on DVD's, not on TV.
Paige said she didn't have Showtime either and couldn't watch Dexter last night, but she would watch it online. Hate to tell ya, Paige, but in order to watch it online you have to be a subscriber.
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That's not true. There are a number of sites on the internet where you can watch virtually EVERY tv program aired anywhere in the world for free - including pay networks like HBO and Showtime. I do it all the time. I'm guessing that Kate dvr'd Dexter and would watch it at another time.
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This is where I watch TV.
http://www.1channel.ch/
You will see lots of 'versions' there. I myself only trust Putlocker and Sockshare and WARNING even those will give you a porn popup. But there are no viruses that will harm your computer. Yes, i watch Dexter and I also watch ITV (UK PBS) to see Downton Abbey and season 2 isnt even available in the states yet.
We have a desktop PC hooked to our television.We have no cable whatsoever; in fact we have rabbit ears to get local channels and the digital decoder box that we bought in 2008.
Anita said... 104
Sorry if this has already been posted. K8ts twitter is "private" now. Guess she had more haters than she thought. hahahahahahahahaha!!!
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HOW IS SHE GONNA GRIFT!???!!! I mean I ask you HOW IS THE POOR THING GONNA GET TOILET PAPER AND GRANOLA BARS???
HOLD ON EVERYONE! I THINK THE EARTH STOPPED SPINNING ON IT'S AXIS!!!! ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!! It's the end Elizabeth!
Sorry if this has already been posted. K8ts twitter is "private" now. Guess she had more haters than she thought. hahahahahahahahaha!!!
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I'm reading it. It's not private.
I should have asked for a twitter lesson before I started the doomsday celebration over here, I dont know how this works. How can you tell if it's private, coz I am still seeing everything I think...
http://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8/with_replies
She's not private.
You know, I don't care about Yogurt Gate. I don't care about misspellings or other written errors.
I care that those same precious children/babies that we saw when Alexis said " mommy, mommy? Mommy? that you Mommy? were being expected to behave like 12 yr olds. I care that they were whipped for being their age (normal toddlers) I care that the abuse has continued and the mental cruelty " we'll have to move out of the house and you won't be able to go to school here anymore if you don't work", "well then you'll be Palins instead of Gosselins" and all the other times emotional blackmail( which is what I call mental cruelty)and physical abuse goes on to this day.
I care and want it to stop no matter what the she-devil's problems are. Those kids have been through hell in front of national tv and the Lord only knows what at home. I wish I had unlimited amounts of money because I'd do everything I could to stop it. I'd hire private investigators and I would have been trash diving since the first time I saw her "Playfully?" slap Jon.
My concern is for those children. Robert has done the right thing. Just as he has reported the abuse to CPS I'm sure there are multiple reports.
Kate needs to get herself to rehab, sign those kids over to Jon ( prob the ONLY reason she hasn't is she'd have to pay child suppport) before she totally loses.
You can say anything you want about Steve but I suspect he is the only one on this planet who can reason with her.He has been a witness to a lot of this and if it were to come to trial he would have to testify too.
PiggyPie_ said... 100
One of the girls (not H) pooped during nap time so Kate, "woke her in my angry voice."
My kids are teenagers and I still try to wake them sweetly.
I wish she'd just leave them and flee the country.
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The child was asleep and pooped. Lord help us all but those kids more!
I should have asked for a twitter lesson before I started the doomsday celebration over here, I dont know how this works. How can you tell if it's private, coz I am still seeing everything I think...
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If it's private there will be a screen:
@xxxx tweets are protected.
Only confirmed followers have access to @xxxx Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request.
All of Kate's tweets are still there, on Twazzup, TwitIQ and https://twitter.com/Kateplusmy8
I am sorry to say but I truly believe Jon disciplined the kids by spanking them as well. Not to the extent Kate did but still.It is obvious in some episodes like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfuP3S2b1Zc
Watch starting at min 05:34. Jon rougly sends C to time out and you can see C is quiet while in the corner.Cut to Jon bringing C back at the table
the kid is screaming his head off and Jon is like, yeah I don't have time to deal with this .So yeah... Also, note the conversation J n K are having during the incident.Kate is such a liar
I am reading posts from the bottom to the top. And 2 to 3 times "yogurt" is mentioned. Can someone fill in what this means? Thanks so much.
111 IMHO- Could be totally wrong, but think EVERYBODY will be testifying at trial. For both sides. No one will settle with KG. It will go all the way.
Remona Blue said... 29
My stupid Kindle question #24984932. I really wish I didn't have to always expose how dense I am about computers, but I am dense so may as well admit it.
http://www.ebook-converter.com/kindle-pc-converter.htm
I read the instructions at the link, and think I understand them, but am I correct that the instructions are from an actual Kindle? I never had a kindle in the first place, and downloaded the free Kindle thingie from Amazon.com. My book is in my documents, but can only be opened via the thing from Amazon.com Would the converter work for me?
I'm convincing myself that I'm NOT going to be embarrassed about asking...after all, I'm older than dirt, and am proud of being able to do what I can do on the computer!!
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Remona, it think it will work. I was trying to copy my book that I had purchased, took me 2 and 1/2 days to figure it out. If you cant get it open at all, let me know, i might have an idea. (The instructions on the decoding program are very confusing. Did you notice the pop up you got after it installed? "You Install Completely." oh yikes.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtNYA4pAGjI
Somebody cries in the middle of the night
the neighbors hear but but they turn out the light.
Goodnight, all.
Mr. Hoffman.
I don't know you, never met you, never heard of you until fairly recently. But I appreciate you for your tenacity. You didn't give up. You believed there was a vital story to be unwrapped and you stuck with it. You have told us what we have been surmising all along is actually fact. The children are not being given a strong and happy childhood. You have put it out there at some real peril to your own
well being.
Thank you for not being cowed nor restrained for lighting some beacons of hope for the innocent lives involved.
I have tears running down my face as I write this, and I am not an emotional person. Your book has touched both my heart and my fury.
I agree the book needs to be shortened and tightened up, but the story itself needs to told in all its detail. Thank you, Mr. Hoffman, for your efforts and diligence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLh5vbBLpxI&feature=endscreen&NR=1
Daddy, Alyssa Lies, every day at school, Alyssa lies to the teacher, as she tries to cover every bruise.
@Dwindle Thx for this.
http://www.1channel.ch/
Questions: Is it legal & do you need a good new PC to make this work?
No it's not legal. Dwindle should be more careful revealing these pirated movie sites.
Illegal pirating said... 121
No it's not legal. Dwindle should be more careful revealing these pirated movie sites.
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Nah. 1channel is nothing more than a search engine, like Yahoo or Google. It 'specializes' in TV and Movies and gives you a list of sites you can go to, to stream the title you have entered in the search bar. there is usually about 15 - 20 direct links to your movie title search, with places like Amazon.com, (You can stream alot of movies for 'free' with Amazon Prime) Netflix, iTunes (does indeed stream and download TV and movies) Putlocker, PBS.com, Hulu Plus, etc etc etc. I have a couple of the above memberships, including Putlocker for streaming, not for downloading. They also post links to free sites that are in the public domain, like PopcornFlix, PubDHub, the free Hulu site. If I just want to walk Walking Dead, I will use the 1Channel search engine rather than go site to site to site trying to find it. (by the way Netflix now has all of season 2 up for streaming Walking Dead!) If I am only in the mood for an old movie, I will just go to PubDHub and see what kind of Gabby Hayes or Fred Astaire flick has hit the public domain this month.
I used to wonder about all the teens posting how much they love, love the show and she is such a strong woman with boundless energy, and a great mom and can I please, please get a retweet. One teen posted a pic of her locker at school and the door that swings open is covered with cut out copies of tweets from KT and probably others as well. It is trending at school.
And unless she sold all the TVs they had one in the basement (wasn't there one on the wall) one in the family room upstairs and one in the kids' rooms and as much as KT stays in her room and talks about her shows there would have to be one there. She is lying now just for the sake of lying.
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On that note, had Kate gone away when the show was cancelled I doubt Robert would have pursued this book.
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Admin, I cannot believe you think that way! In other words do what I want and I won't write about you. Isn't that extortion? By Robert's own account he has been gathering 'evidence' for years. He still has her garbage in his basement from last Christmas! If she goes away what will he want from her next?
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I thought that he did say he wouldn't have pursued this project any further if Kate hadn't started on twitter and began inventing complete fabrications about a life that does not exsist.
Lying about church, lying about cooking, lying about the bread for the garbage men, lying about grocery shopping, lying about stuffing 1,000 eggs- she hired people to do it for her and didn't even watch! Lying about snow and tree damage for sympathy, lying about how much help she has and on & on & on. On one of her her sit on the line and don't spill your popcorn movie nights, she tweeted 114 times. She frenzy tweets when her kids are home and disappears when Jon has them. When someone is so deceptive and tell lies as outrageous as this, they beg to be outted. They paint a huge red target on themselves.
I believe it was Dwindle who said Kate is the Milli Vanilli of motherhood, all she does is write and tweet about it, but she pays people so she has a little as possible to actually do with the kids. That statement is spot on. That's messed up.
And as far as the yogurt story, I think that probably happened. To some volunteer. Pennmommy may have known about it and passed it off as her own story. It's not a smoking gun and it doesn't negate any of the other info in this book that Kate and her lawyers are not disputing, just trying to stop from getting out any further. It's a non issue.
Dwindle #92 - LOVE your Milli Vanilli reference! D'ya think Khate knows "Blame it on the Rain" by heart?? It can't possibly be HER.
It's gotta be on her daily playlist!
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@Michelle 177 spoiler alert
OH my God! Raise a house full of liars? The hypocricy is astounding! Imagine life with that banshee? Damned if you do, damned if you don't. What would have resulted if Jon had actually CONFESSED ( good God!) to BUYING LUNCH!! Shades of coupongate. Those poor poor kids. It is inevitable that some of them will grow up tobe just like her, is it too late for intervention? Too late for therapy?
Good catch, Parent. OUR STUDIO, indeed. She and Steve shack up.
I need to reread, too. Rushed through this weekend.
Did Kate go private on twitter for a while?
I think you guys are going to send me to the slow readers corner (please don't employ Kate's tactics) because I am nowhere near finished with the book. It's not an easy read, for several reasons, and I'm not able to skim.
I'm loving the spoilers, and admire those of you who are reading it for the second time.
Any Robert news?
"Our studio" is what you would refer to if you were a couple.
"The studio" would be what you would use if it was you and an employee.
Preesi mentioned Chapter 33, that the s#it would hit the fan? Can someone elaborate? Like I posted earlier, keep the spoilers coming, it will only make more of us purchase the book when RH is released from Discovery's shackles.
Check out Katie Couric's FB page. I'm guessing it will be a fluff interview, but the comments are pretty unanimous PROMOTING A SELF ADMITTED.CHILD ABUSER
Of course Kate is raising a house full of liars, for obvious reasons:
Jon was forced to lie, because he's non-confrontational & he was scared to admit, of all things, that he committed the heinous crime of *gasp* going out to lunch, for fear of the queen.
Their lives were a lie since infancy. Their mom lied about her mothering, her cooking, her organization skills, Christmas, the first day of school, Steve...the list is endless.
Thurd, kids lie when they're scared. Period. WHen you're scared of your parents. you lie. It's so simple Kate, but she can't grasp the obvious:
Children learn what they live.
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Good catch, Parent. OUR STUDIO, indeed. She and Steve shack up.
I need to reread, too. Rushed through this weekend.
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Anybody see this in the Big Dreams chapter? It's part of an email discussing/recapping a brainstorming session about the show. I'm guessing the "limo escort" might be Steve. Who else would need to be included in meals for brainstorming/show meetings??
"And, last but not least, We RESOLVE to have regular meals with limo escort for further “business meetings.” Regards and Thanks, Kirk
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 17985-17992). . Kindle Edition.
heather
She has not tweeted her good morning a.m. Nothing about being on Katie Couric. Think she 's in NYC this a.m. for the taping? Wonder if Katie has her PRE-QUESTIONS? Would love it if Katie Couric caught Kate off guard.
In the old house, they used to have three tvs at least. They had one downstairs (family movie night), one in their room (kids laying on floor when someone says "Sassy hit me"), and a small one in the babies room for the tups to watch a movie during "naptime" (she shows a pic of this one in the book IJWYTK and the show shows her putting a VHS tape in). So, yeah, huge liar if she is saying they only have one tv.
The quote "I woke her with my angry voice" is in IJWYTK. So, she admits to this. She also admits that the child was shaking while in the tub. That's abuse in and of itself.
What I don't understand is the "greatest fans". If you have read IJWYTK, that book is filled with emotional abuse and neglect. Her book contains the same stories as RH's book, just with the spanking parts removed. But, otherwise, the stories are the same. And they are mostly about leaving the children in the crib for hours on end, not noticing children misbehaving, not noticing children getting hurt, delaying medical attention, and apparently not having a child proofed environment for the children to be safe in. It's not a big stretch then, to believe the physical abuse, especially when there are photos of Kate's method of spanking.
Jon was bad too at times. Kate writes in his journal a couple times of him being "ugly" to the kids, losing his mind, and making M cry. It's like they cracked at times under the stress. I wish they had had more resources and parenting coaches at the time to give them positive parenting options and relief from the stress. Of course, I don't think Kate would have listened to anything.
If Jon knew about the abortion, he is just as guilty as Kate in the whole, "we just wanted one more" story. That is disgusting!
All it says on Katie's site is that taping is at 12 noon but does not say if it is same day. I am hoping that is the case.
“I pray that his complacency would leave him and would turn into passion for the Lord! Lord PLEASE help Jon to desire these things!!!!!! Help him to become a man of integrity!!!!! Lord please!!!!! He could be the perfect man if he could get these things under control and let God take control!!!!!”
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 2051-2053). . Kindle Edition.
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I hardly think wanting people to pay for your stuff makes you a man of integrity...And I think Jon knew that too, that's why he was 'complacent'.
Later, she says they made 760, and she was sure to give God his 10%....I bet when her ego got bigger and she left God behind, I bet she never gave another dime again..that's sorta harsh, but I bet it's true. She kept it ALL for herself.
She sold all six cribs and car seats...things that were donated to them...why couldn't she 'pay it forward' and donate them?
greed, that's why...
I believe Jon disciplined the kids just like any of us. He was not an abuser like Kate.
I don't have my hopes up about the Katie Couric show. Katie is a good journalist, but her show is light, fluffy, afternoon fare. Don't expect the Today Show Katie to surface. It's just not that kind of show.
Well, I finished the book last night. And it's bad-really bad. Robert, thank you so much for bringing this to light. If I had to pick one thing that surprised me and brought the most tears is the *(SPOILER)* Christmas card "I'm dreaming of a black Christmas" written by one of the twins.Just heartbreaking!!!! I pray that all those in the know that were/are witness to the abuse would band together and take what they know to the proper athorities and save these children!
Remona, there is no need to convert the book. If you saved it on your computer hard drive or on a flash drive, you will always be able to read it using the Kindle app. Amazon can't do anything about that.
About the LV marathon..not that Kreider would EVER dream to take the kids with her, anywhere...but: it's no wonder she didn't take them there. Can you just imagine the logistics of trying to SHUT UP 8 kids, maybe talking about Momster riding on Uncle Skeeve's scooter, how she 'freshened up' for the finish line photo op, etc, etc? Ha ha ha! No wonder she ran in the dark! These people seriously think people are so stupid as to believe she actually ran a marathon!? Ha ha ha ha.....ya, okaaaay.
PS...I have to add, about recent INF pics: Kate Gosselin is about the skankiest Looking 'woman' out there! Just keeps getting worse and she thinks she keeps getting better. My hubby and I were killing ourselves laughing at what a tranny horse face she has. Talk about needing an overhaul...and she's already had one!
Ba ha ha ha ha! Sad what she's done to her old, natural, pretty self.
I bet she is spending today getting some heavy duty prepping ( memorizing her lines) for Katie Couric. I thought today was Wed., oops.
Thanks, boo. I agree. Kate would not agree to appear on the show unless she got 100% assurance Katie would stick to the script. Nobody grills the bitch. I do not get it.
I always thought she went with the straight blond hair because that's how Gina wore hers. Bizarre, I know, but Kate is crazy.
I don't know what channel Katie Couric's show is on, but media corps,etc, all are entertwined someway..this one owns that, which owns this one, that one...
I think that's why The View always played nice with Kate, there has to be a link between ABC and TLC somewhere.
Don't you know her being outed has pissed her off beyond belief, lol!
Poor Katie, she can't tweet her 16 followers...
Her tv tweet was a lie, she has one in her room, and the kids have to have one upstairs 'cuz she said they have to watch dvd's until everyone is up.
she lies about everything...easter eggs, shopping, cooking, laundry, help, on and on. She may not even know what the truth is anymore.
Back to the book, starting chapter 8.....(8), lololol
Does anyone know if the Katie Couric show was taped or if it's live? I understand why she's having Kate on because the show is about reality TV and Kate was a "breakout" reality TV "star" (much as I hate to admit that). However, Kate is yesterday's news and stories about her are lining the bottoms of bird cages. Honey Boo Boo is the flavor of the month and that must be killing Kate. I wonder if Abby Lane (Dance Moms) knows that Kate was knocking her show. Kate never got her Twist of Kate but Abby's got another show coming on.
I thought of Kate and her getting Laverne & Shirley to pull the book when I read the following at the bottom of someone's email this morning. There are 4 things you can never recover: "The stone..after the throw. The
word..after it's said. The occasion..after it's missed. The time..after it's gone." Maybe we should add "the book...after it's been downloaded on countless Kindle's".
There is a pro-Kate blog that I suspected would ignore this book. I just learned I was mistaken. They've taken up her defense. I'm actually shocked by this. How can they defend this woman now?
One of the moderators was once employed as a school nurse. Wouldn't that make her a mandated abuse reporter? Another mod is still a teacher in a school district today. Another mandated reporter?
If people like this can read what she did and still defend her, then I guess we now understand how child abuse is still such a problem. I guess if you are thin and rich you are excused for horrid behavior.
NJGal51 ~ Ohhh, I like that saying. A lot!
Anyone want to lay odds with me on whether Kate mentions her newfound love for yoga as a stress-management tool? Damage control, without going into any details.
Kate had
113,562 Twitter followers last Thursday, prior to the book release.
114,431 followers, as of this morning.
What the heck?!?
Shades of the familiar--so sickening! But maybe there's a glimmer of hope in this saga:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121002/eu-britain-jimmy-savile/
TV show claims UK TV host Savile abused children
For decades, Jimmy Savile was a fixture on British television – an eccentric, aggressively jocular host of children's shows and a tireless charity fundraiser. When he died last year at 84 – by then knighted as Sir Jimmy – he drew tributes from Prince Charles and thousands of fans.
Now several women have come forward to claim "Sir Jimmy" was also a sexual predator who abused underage girls.
The allegations have set off ripples of shock – but not of surprise. There had, colleagues said, long been rumors. The main question being asked now is: Why did no one do anything?
"Maybe it was just the fact that Jimmy knew everybody," Esther Rantzen, a former BBC journalist and founder of the ChildLine child-protection charity, told Channel 4 news. "We made him into the Jimmy Savile who was untouchable, who nobody could criticize."
Child protection advocates say the case fits a pattern seen in the response to the child-molesting Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky and in the English town of Rochdale, where a gang of men groomed vulnerable young girls for sex. Authorities in both places have been criticized for failing to act on claims of abuse.
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Surrey Police have acknowledged that they questioned Savile in 2007 over an allegation related to the Duncroft school. The file was passed onto prosecutors, who declined to bring charges.
The Crown Prosecution Service is facing questions about its actions, as is the BBC, Savile's longtime employer. The BBC's "Newsnight" program worked on a piece on the abuse allegations late last year but decided not to broadcast it for what the BBC called "editorial reasons."
Chris Cloke, head of child protection awareness at the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, said if any good came from the Savile saga it would be "a better understanding of how cases like this have happened, a greater understanding that protecting children must be everybody's responsibility."
"There is a concern that children aren't listened to," he said, "and that is something that has been around for a very long time."
Anyone else wondering if Robert had released his book FOR FREE if Kate would've bothered with it at all?
Maybe she's just pissed that "he's making money" off it.
heather
She is still buying twitter accounts.
Mamak:
In IJWYTK, there was a photo of Hannah and Leah lying fast asleep right on top of the staircase. She said time to get a baby gate? I know they had one before, containing the kids in their bedroom and Mady opened it once; also for fake Xmas. Who could lose track of two children in a small house and then find them asleep in a very dangerous place? I agree that the book is the same stories, with the abuse left out...some make no sense, like the first part where she asks a woman to leash her dog..
My impression was that on the Katie Couric show, Kate G. was going to be only one of several reality stars all being interviewed together regarding what goes on behind-the-scenes on TV reality shows. Kate G. is known to not say much when she's not the only one being interviewed. And I highly doubt Katie Couric would even mention the book since it's been pulled off Amazon (temporarily, hopefully)....and she certainly wouldn't mention it when it doesn't really directly relate to a topic that's going to be discussed with several reality stars as a group discussion.
I don't know much about this new Katie Couric show....so have no idea if she ever asks anyone hard-hitting questions on it or not....like she used to when she was a news anchor. But even if she did....I doubt she'd do it over info in a book pulled off Amazon and tied up in a legal battle at the moment.....and she certainly won't do it on a show where she's interviewing several people at once about another topic.
Oh...and I doubt Kate G. will say much. She's always seemed uncomfortable and has done particularly badly when she's not the only person being interviewed and has to contribute in a group discussion. I would be expecting to see her look uncomfortable, not contribute much and be totally out-performed by the other reality stars in the group.
This Penmommy name is vaguely familiar to me but all I can think of when yoghurt is mentioned is that shopping list Robert Hoffman has in the book where Kate G. instructs the helpers to buy 10 yoghurts....but to first count what's in the fridge...and if there's 3 in there (can't remember the exact number she specified)...then only get 7 more because she only wanted a total of 10 in there.
And this is for a total of 9 people.....for a week, I believe.
This is just unbelievably anal...and controlling, IMO. Hell, I love Greek yoghurt and when they're on sale, I'll grab 10 or more and throw them in the cart just for myself......just for a week or two....for only ME.
And if any of you went into my fridge and grabbed a few, I'd never know....and couldn't even tell you how many are in there right now. I have better things to do than to count yoghurts in my fridge. :D
But it had to be EXACTLY 10....so I can definitely see Kate G. throwing a fit if anyone removed one of them without permission.
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For the people who are saying they are disappointed with Beth Carson and others for not reporting Kate G. to CPS. I've said this before and I'll repeat it. I believe that Beth, Kevin and Jody, Jon G. and possibly others were making reports and attempting to get help for the G. children behind the scenes and we just never saw the results....and neither did they. As long as TLC/Discovery wanted to film those children, everyone ran into brick walls trying to help them. I don't for one minute think that all these folks just ignored it. I wouldn't be surprised, in fact, if one of the reasons for the rift between Kate G. and Beth C. was that Beth C. reported concerns to CPS. These people were stopped at every turn thanks to the money, power and influence wielded by a huge corporation over major news outlets and government agencies, etc.
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Thanks, Remona.
It looks to me like the numbering of the comments starts over every time a new page of comments turns over. Thanks. :)
Re; Beth. My point was she nominate Kate for Mother of the Year in some contest, and sung her praises AFTER working on the book, seeing the journals and also seeing her treatment of Jon. Maybe she did something but it seems hypocritical to toot Kate's horn if she was aware of abuse- hard to believe of Beth but who knows.She saw Kate from the time the babies were born as a volunteer and then they became friends- she must have seen Kate's treatment of the volunteers as well as the kids a bit later on. Of course I have no facts, just seems that she must have read those journals or had some idea of Kate's true nature. This is not my opinion of Jodi and Kevin - they did what they could.
Oh hey, did the fork graphic disappear, and I just didn't notice it 'til now?
In my mind's eye, it's been replaced by the mental image of a wooden spoon...
Other than the article about Beth, in a local paper I believe, about helping to write "Multiple Blessings", Beth Carson was totally left out of the book signings. Frankly, I do not believe Beth and Kate's quarrel had anything to do with the treatment of the kids. I think it all boiled down to Beth's share of the book proceeds and Kate cheating her out of the 50%. Friends and business sometimes don't mix well.
113,562 Twitter followers last Thursday, prior to the book release.
114,431 followers, as of this morning.
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If they are real, I'm pretty sure they aren't following her because they like her, lol. It's the rubber-necking phenomenom.
I just went on twitter and got the following message: @Kateplusmy8's tweets are protected.
Only confirmed followers have access to @Kateplusmy8's Tweets and complete profile. Click the "Follow" button to send a follow request.
Did she go private?
NJGal51
She has you blocked
TLC 138 -- I agree. We have evidence in one of the episodes of what KK considered Jon being "ugly" to the kids. He hollered at and sent one of the boys to time out for acting up and KK said "Don't pay any attention to Daddy. He's mean". Show me a parent who hasn't hollered at their kid(s) and I'll show you a parent who isn't doing his/her job. Did Jon also spank the kids. Probably. Do I have a problem with it. Well, that depends. I guess I'm sort of old school. I've never had kids, but I've never seen a problem with a rare swat on a clothed behind with an open hand. NEVER with any implement and only after repeated warnings and other corrections don't work. And you NEVER hit a kid in anger (Like KK did with Leah in those infamous pix)and you don't punish kids for being unable to do things beyond their developmental level. Did Jon go beyond that? Who knows? If he did, then I have a problem with it.
I've finally finished the book. I'm sad and angry and frustrated. I'm sad that the book is out there, angry and frustrated at what it shows and that NOTHING has been able to curb the abuses of this psychopath. I'll still pray for KK to see the light and get the help she needs, but, like most of you, I don't think that she will. I have to admit, I'm a bit put off by the amount of time Robert put into following KK around and in watching her every move. I can't help but worry about the strain that must have put on his own kids, and on his wife.
NJGal51 ~ I'm seeing her tweets just fine. Well, her twitter fans' tweets, anyway. She's not saying much these days.
NJGal . . . if you are getting that message from Kate, it means you are blocked. I don't think her profile is private.
Marie
If Kate has blocked you on Twitter, she will come up as protected, but she's not, just from people she's blocked. You can still see her tweets when you search her name, or on tweettunnel, twazzup, etc.
Yes, friends and business don't mix, but in kHate's situation she can't even share the wealth with her own flesh and blood! She doesn't even think her kids deserve the money and credit they worked their childhoods to the bone for.
The silence is deafening, not A SINGLE person/friend/family member has spoken out in her defense. Not a one! Guess Discovery can't pull out their bag of "trade secrets" again and "plant" a friend (cough, her "running" pals?)
admin....didn't Mkate say she had the "realist" of shows....lol.
She's only tweeted 6 times yesterday. What she needs to do, to get her followers up, is to unblock everyone...she'd have millions of followers, lol.
Don't ya know it's biting her a** not to be able to tweet,lol.
She has you blocked @160 - How can she have me blocked becasue I've never followed her. I've just read on TwitIQ or some other area.
Jamie- what's this about her sending text pics to Jon of herself topless? I don't find her particularly attractive but she sure enjoyed the bar scene (toe licking episode). She entered the show as Kate's BFF filling the vacated role of Beth . She was more like Carla, doing household chores, babysitting etc,leaving her own kids behind in the custody of their dad.Why would she send that text pic- tiff with Kate? Then the two 'ladies' got closer...
And Jamie is married to a doctor, which was Kate's ambition for herself. Kate had to settle for a lousy son of a doctor. snark. Love ya, Jon.
Of course, Jamie was married to someone else, not a doctor, when she and Kate met. But wow, Kate must be impressed with Jamie for doing what Kate could not.
@168 . . . you don't have to follow her to get blocked. If for some reason you tweeted something about her or two her using @kateplusmy8 and she decided you "couldn't help her" she would block you.
Marie
Heh, heh. Suck it Kate.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv-movies/honey-boo-boo-big-raise-tlc-article-1.1172115
Not two, to. Geeze.
Marie
Marie - I've never tweeted anything to her or about her...I've just read her tweets. Strange.
I'm not making any claims but after following this for years...I just feel strongly that so many tried to help the G. children for years behind the scenes. It is extremely difficult to get children taken out of homes...even if they live in poor areas and have no backing by a huge corporation. And it upsets me when people often seem to assume that nobody was doing anything behind the scenes. I think they were and were just stopped at every turn.
I will never forget that scene of the children in the van screaming because they didn't want to go back to their mother. I wish I could bleach it from my eyes and from my memory. It still chills me and makes me want to cry for Jon. That spoke volumes to me and always will. I raised my own children and I know exactly what I was looking at when I saw those poor kids screaming in fear in that van.
When you follow something for years....and collect all sorts of snippets of data in your head....and put two and two together.....I just have to believe that R. Hoffman's book is the truth, it's what I've expected all along based on what I saw and read for years and I believe a whole lot of people tried to help those kids behind the scenes and just ran into one brick wall after another.
On the bright side....I do believe some headway is being made now and will continue to be made. And I think Jon G. is an amazing person to have hung in there for so long.....has been abused and maligned relentlessly....and has continued to take the high road and tried to do right by his children.
Heck...I get upset when anyone on the internet says something I personally take offense to and want to run and defend myself immediately.....and this poor guy, IMO, has been put through way more hell and misery than any of us even know....and has kept his mouth shut through almost all of it and put his children first.
NJGal,
It has nothing to do with being blocked. I'm blocked (for asking if the kids were going to see gramma on mothers day) and I can see her tweets just fine. I'm just not allowed to follow her (FORBIDDEN).
I'm guessing twitter is acting up.
I personally am not confident that any headway has been made regarding Kate and her abuse of the kids. These allegations were made back in 2009 and were ignored, covered up and swept under the rug back then and I think that may happen now. Kate will go on the Katie Couric show and no one will mention it. I'm assuming that the lawyers will keep Robert's booked tied up so that it cannot ever be released again. What's Robert going to do about it? He doesn't have the means. No, I hope I'm wrong, but I think Kate will go on as usual unless someone close to the family decides to belly up to the bar and speak about the abuse.
Forgot to sign my name on @177.
Marie
Good catch, Parent. OUR STUDIO, indeed. She and Steve shack up.
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The reason it caught my attention was because she said Lanc arts. There is only one Lancaster Arts Hotel and I booked a room there one time for a group of business friends. That's how I knew they had a studio queen accommodation. I've also eaten there. I went back in the book to where she wrote something about having dinner at a Lancaster hotel, it was organic, it was yummy, but she didn't remember the name. The Lancaster Arts Hotel has an organic restaurant. So I put two and two together and got that hotel, with the restaurant, and "OUR" studio.
But, it also sounds like Steve was "uncomfortable" there. I couldn't figure out that part of it!
Bears wife . . . it means NJGal is blocked from following Kate.
Marie
Illegal pirating said... 121
No it's not legal. Dwindle should be more careful revealing these pirated movie sites.
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It's not illegal to reveal 'pirated' movie sites.
I 'like' Frostwire on FB, a file sharing site. oohhhhh arrest me now. And shut down their FB page, they are advertising themselves!
I am catching up and will read every post.
Here is a report on the Loch Ness marathon. No Nessie sightings. (Son is now posting photos of gorgeous castles and Scottish landscape on Facebook.)
I have followed son's extensive training. It was his first (and perhaps final) full marathon. He ran hard and his time was better than his expectation. Cool weather gave him a boost over his training in Houston weather. (I won't give his time or position -- they are posted at the Loch Ness site and could reveal his name.) He was in pain at the end, but had the endorphin "high". He looked totally drained but happy.
I didn't have an opinion on Kate's marathon completion. I do NOW. She did not run a full race. No way. She does not have the determination, the discipline or the fortitude to push herself that hard.
Parent, I think Steve was uncomfortable there because he and Kate were recognized. Guess they don't have any back stairs :)
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I am basing what I wrote on what I read here.....that Jon now has 50% custody, that there is now a full-time nanny with the children when they are at the house with Kate......and some other info written here that is from the book....related to things Mr. Hoffman had promised Jon not to release yet....but sounding like other agencies are finally now involved...and that Kate has been pressured to give in to some of Jon's demands finally.....possibly due to incriminating info they have on her related to the children and finally....with TLC/Discovery not really all that interested in protecting her.
A C&D letter sent by their attorneys to Mr. Hoffman is no big deal to me and gives me no indication that TLC/Discovery even gives a damn. The letter to Amazon that got the book taken down came from Kate's attorneys (Laverne and Shirley...couldn't resist...Lavely and Singer)...not TLC/Discovery's attorneys and my gut is they couldn't give a crap, have bigger fish to fry and will not be any significant factor.
We may not get to see every single thing WE may have wanted to see happen....but I do see indications that Jon is finally making some headway when it comes to protecting and helping the children.
aggiemom09121416 said... 137
She sold all six cribs and car seats...things that were donated to them...why couldn't she 'pay it forward' and donate them?
greed, that's why.
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That is a HUGE pet peeve of mine. I gave a new couch to friend, who then sold her set, so she could take mine! I was so ticked, she didnt need the money (yes, I do know this) and if it were me, I would have donated the set to another military family that was struggling- there are plenty here, our base is huge.
Greed. Pure and simple.
I've never sold anything yet- I always give away and donate. I am grateful not to be struggling and I believe in random acts of kindness and that sharing is caring. I know people are down on their luck, so why not donate? I'll keep doing it for as long as I can, hopefully the rest of my life :)
Yes, marie. Preesi made a big deal how this time she will not be Teflon Kate. So far, she has.
BTW, I wonder if at every hotel she stays at she makes the management sign a CA?
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I am catching up and will read every post.
Here is a report on the Loch Ness marathon. No Nessie sightings. (Son is now posting photos of gorgeous castles and Scottish landscape on Facebook.)
I have followed son's extensive training. It was his first (and perhaps final) full marathon. He ran hard and his time was better than his expectation. Cool weather gave him a boost over his training in Houston weather. (I won't give his time or position -- they are posted at the Loch Ness site and could reveal his name.) He was in pain at the end, but had the endorphin "high". He looked totally drained but happy.
I didn't have an opinion on Kate's marathon completion. I do NOW. She did not run a full race. No way. She does not have the determination, the discipline or the fortitude to push herself that hard.
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Congrats to your son!!! That is quite an accomplishment.
I agree with you that no way Kate finished- and I had believed her at first. After my race, which just under a half marathon, I was in pain, sweaty, huffing and puffing, and so were the other 8000+ participants. You do not run (and run/walk) for miles and miles (and miles and miles) and come out pretty.
It's too bad we cant see the photos, but I bet they are gorgeous. Was his medal in the shape of Nessie? LOL I am just a little obsessed with that legend :)
I hope your DS is resting well- his body is going to hurt for the next couple of days :(
Re asking for info on Shoka, Khate won't give it because people are asking so much. It's her little power trip.
I liked this tweet:
Imagine a world where u have everyone around u sign vows of silence and then U travel the talk show circuit telling your version
FYI, Beth Carson has been selling some of her paintings on etsy. She has nothing up for sale now.
More Radaronline publicity for Kate:
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/stars-denied-plastic-surgery-photos-despite-rumors
I bet she is spending today getting some heavy duty prepping ( memorizing her lines) for Katie Couric. I thought today was Wed., oops.
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I picture Sarah Palin in the movie Game Change in the fetal position on the floor surrounded by her thousands of notecards.
Buttefly, congrats on your marathon. I also want to say I agree and admire your philosophy of donating to those in need- I don't get why some people are so greedy while they see others struggle.Kate is the greediest person I ever heard of.
Dmasy: Congrats to your son as well! What an experience!
I saw the Long Island medium woman on Dave Letterman last night. My first thought was she either taped the Katie Couric Show yesterday, or it will be taped today.
It sounds to me that they will present Kate as the "breakout star" (as stated in an online promo), along with the other ladies, hopefully all sitting together. I agree with the poster here (dee3) that she will not be asked a single question about this book. I also agree with dee3 that if these various woman share a couch, it'll be all toothy grin and limp hair from Kate. She does like competition, especially from woman who have reality shows currently airing.
The format of Couric's show today suggests a light piece of fluff and the question being how "real" are these reality shows from a staging point of view. And, we will hear Kate's stock answer prevail. "Honestly, the kids just did what they would normally do, just play and run in front of the camera, and they STILL miss the crew!"
I don't think the network would allow Katie Couric to address the Hoffman book, while it is under litigation.
For the people who are saying they are disappointed with Beth Carson and others for not reporting Kate G. to CPS. I've said this before and I'll repeat it. I believe that Beth, Kevin and Jody, Jon G. and possibly others were making reports and attempting to get help for the G. children behind the scenes and we just never saw the results....and neither did they.
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I feel the same way. Maybe they DIDN'T do anything but until I have evidence that no one ever did anything there is no way I'm going to assume otherwise. Especially since I can say with a lot of confidence there is no way CPS would have taken these kids from her, not even for the hair pulling and whipping into a crib. This is a woman who could not be stopped, even by authorities.
Hi All!
Just got home from a week away and boy did I miss a lot or what? It will take me awhile to catch up but I saw this comment from Admin on the last post...
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 76
"Dwindle is a rock star and I bet that will make her stalker furious. Hehe. Go Dwindle!
Sherry was quoted too I think."
Can anyone clarify which Sherry was quoted in the book? There are three Sherry's here that I'm aware of...Sherri O, Sherry Baby and me.
I'm not sure if I can get the book now that it's been suspended. I also don't have an e-reader of any kind. Of course, my curiosity is piqued.
Thanks.
Sheri it was Sherry Baby for this comment that Robert thought was funny:
Sherry Baby said… 63
For starters, Kate, it’s knowledge, not knowledge. It’s Crohn’s disease, not crones. And it’s free reign (or rein), not free range.” It’s gorgeous, not georgeous. It’s Sydney, not Sidney. It’s privilege, not priviledge. It’s accommodate, not accommodate. It’s calendar, not calender. It’s perseverance, not perserverance.
See, this is what we mean. I don’t care if you misspell things. Who cares. But don’t claim it’s a pet peeve of yours when you can’t spell worth a darn.
Marie,
I am blocked by kHate and I have always been able to see her twitter. So I don't think blocking has anything to do with it.
All this and That: "I’ve also been told by a family member close to Kate that Kate was sexually abused by a family member as a child."
I guess we haven't talked specifically about that much here although we have talked about Kate being "abused." Maybe I'm being intentionally vague when I say abused, just because sexual abuse is so horrific. And yet on the other hand, the only way we remove the stigma of people being too darn scared to report abuse is by creating an open dialogue and not being afraid to say it.
And.....there is also a part of me that doesn't trust Kate not to make stuff up for sympathy.
@MiloandJack to me that was my yoga lesson today... All the world, be gone... I was in my body and focusing on it!;) ahhhh about 20 hours ago
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Is yoga like her new "thing"? Next she'll be a Yoga Mama?
If she would just take her kids to the darn movies once in awhile I wouldn't begrudge her her yoga class.
NJGal51:
I wonder if one of Kate's fans gave her a list of "haters" from this blog to block in order to pre empt any tweets that might criticize the queen.
To me, this would run in line with what they tried to do with the cruise approvals
Babsy
A couple of Proverbs for Kate to dwell on:
Better is a poor man who walks in his integrity than he who is perverse in speech and is a fool
(Proverbs 19:1).
It is better to be a poor man than a liar (Proverbs 19:22).
Better is the poor who walks in his integrity, than he who is crooked though he be rich
(Proverbs 28:12).
Butterfly 184
----Bless you!
Giving something to someone in need pays more than money, doesn't it..knowing you helped someone, made their life a little easier. I'd rather donate than sell any day!
And, btw, thanks for serving in the military! (I am the proud mother-in-law of a Naval officer).
So am I reading the Honey Boo Boo pay raise correctly? They are paid per person per episode? Brings the question, Were Jon & Kate being paid per person or was the amount paid for the family to be split?
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