According to author Robert Hoffman, who says he is in possession of notes and diaries that Kate used to write Multiple Blessings and Eight Little Faces, Kate wrote entry after entry about disiplining the kids.
The entries include:
- Kate used a wooden spoon she called "The Spanker" to discipline the kids for transgressions as minor as climbing out of their cribs or potty training issues.
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| A wooden spoon was indeed spotted more than once in the pocket of their car door. |
- Kate, in her own words "lost it" when Collin ate some M&Ms without permission.
- Kate “felt like I may hurt his children.”
- Kate preferred the kids out of sight when she was upset where they would be "safe"
- When Collin threw a tantrum, Kate says she “sent him to his crib and whipped him into it very hard...I never felt that I may really seriously injure a child, but today was that day.”
"You could hear Kate forcefully whacking the child and the child screaming at the top of his lungs," the ex-employee reported.
Kate has never denied the allegations in the interview.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 1797 Newer› Newest»This was lost in all of the discussion yesterday, but right after news broke one of Kate's most passionate fans sent a series of tweets instructing Kate how to protect her computer files.
It was a numbered list with steps to make sure her computer can't be hacked, I think. I don't know how to copy from twitter but maybe someone else can find it (it's the Shoes woman).
I was amazed that a fan's only concern would be how Kate can hide her journal in case she wants to start beating the kids again (and write about it). What the hell is wrong with these people?
Ah,now some tweets are saying that this is a different Milo. I suspect as much as well. A Milo whose "g" works on his/her computer.
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Oh, good gawd. Two Milos. One is bad enough!
So now Milo is saying Kate lies in her journal? who does that??
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WOW!! A sheeple admitted Kate is a liar! Maybe we are making some headway? (snark)
If child abuse works, why does it have to be done more than once?
Poor Kate...she hasn't been able to tweet for TWO WHOLE DAYS. boo hoo.
Gee, Kate, how's it feel to have the impacted bowels of YOUR COMPUTER expressed out into the open for all to see??? (maybe you'd rather be picking out furniture from a catalog?)
And she has ALL WEEKEND to wait for the nuclear fallout to begin, once Robert's book is read by the unwashed masses....boo hoo., gonna be a loooonnngggg weekend at the compound. I hope each and every bottle of wine she opens is bitter.
This is how I see Jon: used, abused, dumped.
Used: to make kids, got more than he wanted, planned to exploit, them.
abused: during the JK8 show, 10 years, of degrading, put downs that Kate thought were funny. Kate your show was not Sonny & Cher or Donny & Marie, those shows WERE entertainment, not a: supposed realist of reality show.
dumped: Jon, got tired, and took Kates words that she said in an interview: if any of us(the family) wants to stop filming or quit, we will stop, and end it. Words like their wedding vows, that Jon took seriously, at one time, till Kate told him it was over, and if you don't go my way, there is the highway, just follow everyone else, Jon, you know the routine: mom, dad, relatives, friends etc. Now get out! Your a bad brand!
This is how I see Jon. Jon actions were not the wisest thing he did, he was like a caged animal, getting it's freedom, and revenge. Unfortunately, Kate got the last word, she screwed him out of the money, as well as the kids. I do believe Kate had 11 bank accounts, and not all in both their names, I do believe Kate hid money anyway she could before the divorce, from Jon, making sure she would get revenge for not staying with her, and the TV show. What made Kate even worse was Jon did not care that much or he had bad legal advice. But then Kate had TLC backing her. Kate was their golden child, money in the bank. The one thing Kate did not, count on, Joe public, turning on her. JMO
Over In Kate's County said... 188
If any good comes out of this expose, it will be that Kate would be a fool to lay a hand on these kids ever again because she knows that she will be watched.
If the new child protection laws go into effect, then ANYONE will be able to report abuse, and not just those who are mandatory reporters.
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There have been cameras and tons of other adults around watching how Khate treats the kids their entire lives, and yet she never censored her behaviour. I seriously doubt she will now. All those years of never being forced to stop the abuse or punished for it has to have added to her immense ego and is 'proof' she's been right all along, in her mind at least. And probably in the kid's minds as well.
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Paula said... 168
Since Marty Singer was unable to stop publication of the book, will Kate refuse to pay him, as she did the therapist?
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Admin would have the answer to this, but most lawyers seem to make you pay up front, then pre pay for continuation of services. Pay as you go. So they don't get stuck if you don't like the eventual outcome.
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Oh, he knows how she stiffs bills when she doesn't want to pay. I have no doubt he helped her with the psychologist bill case.
If he didn't get the money up front, and she doesn't pay, he'll sue her, win and attach a lien if he has to. He's obnoxious, but he's no fool. Nobody stiffs him for money owed.
She wouldn't know what hit her.
Jon could not stay in the marriage, because Kate didn't want to be married to him anymore. He could not stay in the house, because Kate made sure that their arrangement (custodial parent will be in the home with the kids) didn't last very long. Jon could not have custody of the kids because Kate had the money and high-powered attorneys to ensure she got 100% custody (because she wanted to keep filming and so did TLC)....
.....To Ex-Nurse - is there anything that Jon could do NOW, that would cause you to consider he is making honest attempts to atone for his wrong decisions in the past? Would you say that if he finally gets 100% custody, and spends the next 20 years providing for his children and raising them in a loving home -- would you consider he's redeemed himself then? Because let's be realistic - no one can go back in time and change what they've done. They can only move forward and try to do better IN THE NOW.
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In response to your question, all I can do is go back to my comments. If that entire post was addressed to me, you are adding a whole lot of interpretations that are a) not what I said, and b) grossly inaccurate characterization of me. I said that he is (meaning currently) a loving parent who has experienced growth. Isn't that the same thing you said?
I, like everyone here, is trying to put together the pieces of the puzzle and Jon's behavior and dynamic is a part of that puzzle. Jon's behavior, in view of severe abuse, is a part of that puzzle. I'm a very reality oriented person and it is obvious that Jon has some very serious issues and limitations of his own--including evidence of substance/alcohol abuse (HIS words in the Larry King interview). Neither Kate or Jon are emotionally equipped to be parents, and that is the sad fact.
I think people so badly want a happy ending for the kids that they are willing to make one up.
Real life in dysfunctional families are just not as simplistic as "Jon could not stay in the marriage, because Kate didn't want to be married to him anymore. He could not stay in the house, because Kate made sure that their arrangement (custodial parent will be in the home with the kids) didn't last very long. Jon could not have custody of the kids because Kate had the money and high-powered attorneys to ensure ". Every one plays their role. Can you just look ate that quote and see that each of the points you made included: "...Jon could not......because Kate" According to you,r depiction, Jon was a passive and helpless victim, devoid of free will and character. If true, doesn't that say a lot about what his role in their dysfunctional dynamic was? Marriage and parenthood calls for two adults.
As for my being stuck in time--doesn't that apply to everyone here that is discussing the events described in the book? Why are you singling me out on this and adding layers of meaning that aren't there? There were TWO parents there when they were being abused--to only look at one side of the equation is failing to bring critical thinking to the conversation. In real life, couples react to each other. If we are going to talk about Jon's reaction to Kate, isn't it also necessary to consider that some of Kate's behaviors were in reaction to Jon?
The Gosselin family is a tragedy that is unfolding publicly and as many have said, emotions are running high. Sadly, we will be hearing about this family for a long time to come and will be seeing the long-term effects and exploitation of the children by BOTH parents. Buckle your seatbelts, it will be quite a ride...
Robert Hoffman has a new post up on the Gosselin Book website - it is chilling because it is in K's words.
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Ummmmm..Kate.....if what Robert is printing are excerpts from your personal diaries that YOU wrote, if I were you I would immediately have a bonfire in my backyard and burn all those iPhones you've been writing on BEFORE that material gets out for a second book!!!!!!!!!! (exclamation points on purpose). Wow!
If it helps any, my bipolar brother only gets manic about once every couple of years. It used to be wild, now he usually buys a new car he doesn't need since he's on Disability & doesn't leave the house & doesn't work. Damn, I didn't realize I just described Kate!
Great article Sue Buddy! I just went to Robert's blog and saw that all proceeds are going to CASA. I wonder what all the non believers who said he was doing it just to profit have to say now.
Ex Nurse . . . you are a very intelligent person.
Marie
NEW POST GOSSELIN BOOK
There have been cameras and tons of other adults around watching how Khate treats the kids their entire lives, and yet she never censored her behaviour. I seriously doubt she will now.
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She thought she could get away with it before. Not so anymore. She never believed that any of this would be made public. Someone finally had the nerve to call her out on it, make it public, and I think that she most certainly will be looked at with through suspicious eyes.
My father used to hit my sisters and I with a belt in the late 60's, early 70's which is what his father did to him. The worst time was when we were only wearing our little leotards after coming home from dance class. We've never forgotten it and still talk about it sometimes.
I understand that 'back then' it would not have been considered 'child abuse'. But I will tell you that we did not repeat the abuse with our own children.
Horrible. And not her favored kids. Always Collin, Alexis and Joel. How much they suffered for small offenses.
I also thought it was abusive if she made Alexis whom she called 'the bat' sleep alone in the basement with that locked doorknob.But some say that was a cover for Jon also sleeping down there, so who knows.
See that she has finally been forced to tweet. Looks like she is trying the "sweet" approach first.
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Admin....
I'm not going to assume Ashley didn't do her part either. For all we know she was the first to call. We have no idea. But I understand now why she stuck this out like she did. Quite a young woman to be caught up in such a thing.
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Admin, I hope I didn't come across as blaming Ashley. If I did would you please correct me so I can learn where I went wrong. That was not my intention what soever.Thanks.
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Njay, after all day yesterday (plus earlier in the week) of so many posters on this blog beating the crap out of each other, I found your post wonderful and refreshing and... wonderful. Asking for input to help be clearer with your intentions. I appreciate your posts very much and as we all play devil's advocate with each other, you always seem clear to me.
Proceeds from this project will be donated to Children's Alliance Center / CASA – A Service of Opportunity House.
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Okay, sheeple, Milo, and others. Let's hear you spin this one. Your claims are that this book is being written for-profit by the author.
Great post, Ex Nurse. Brilliant. You said it all so well.
DFW mom said 14
I just went to Robert's blog and saw that all proceeds are going to CASA.
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Yep, read that too. Thanks Robert!
(don't you know that Kate just HATES it that someone is making money off of her...even if it is a charity. dang)
Wonder what her fans will say to Robert's newest post????
Kate also spills the beans she was beaten too. She and her brother were on a morning show a few years ago, and they were talking about their relationship....Kate said something to the effect that her brother (Kevin) would often take her punishments (kate wouldn't fess up to it, so he would)
Okay, sheeple, Milo, and others. Let's hear you spin this one.Your claims are that this book is being written for-profit by the author.
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Oh, no point. They will just say he's lying.
LOL!!!
I'm not believing this. She puts them in their cribs FOR THEIR SAFETY. She knows she'll hurt them so she locks those precious toddlers up until Jon got home?
So........ she thinks she should get points for being a good mother who keeps her kids "safe"?
Safe from their own mother????
I sense a touch of pride in her writing.
Gee, Kate finely crawled out from under the rock. She just tweeted: that she is so grateful for her best twitter followers who are supporting her in yet another difficult time. I guess her lawyers, can't stop this book, her PR people(that is if she has PR people) can't seem to do any damage control.
There is an article about a child abuse group, who is blasting Kate, and there are others? Geez, Kate you really openned a can of worms. I guess there is no wiggling your way out this time. GOT YEA!
Thank you Robert.
"I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could "
A grown woman on a toddler
I want to vomit. Seriously want to vomit.
heather
If the fans can no longer use the "making money off the book" argument, I predict they will go with the "it's all because of his wife" argument.
Let's sit back and see which fan does it first!
Yay! Points for safety... shall we give her 2 pts per child? said... 26
LOL!!!
I'm not believing this. She puts them in their cribs FOR THEIR SAFETY. She knows she'll hurt them so she locks those precious toddlers up until Jon got home?
So........ she thinks she should get points for being a good mother who keeps her kids "safe"?
Safe from their own mother????
I sense a touch of pride in her writing.
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Let me clarify:
She put them in their cribs for safety AFTER SHE BEAT THEM.
Hmmm, barn door, horse....
If she was truly trying to protect them, she'd have put them there with out abusing them first. And she wouldn't have written about it with a proud voice 'look how good a mother I was'.... after I first beat them.
Over In Kate's County said... 22
Proceeds from this project will be donated to Children's Alliance Center / CASA – A Service of Opportunity House.
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Okay, sheeple, Milo, and others. Let's hear you spin this one. Your claims are that this book is being written for-profit by the author.
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He is just mean.
He is doing it for media attention.
He is doing it to get back at Kate.
He is doing it coz his wife hates kate.
He and his wife are jellus.
He only has 3 kids and he secretly always wanted 8.
He tried to bed Kate and she wouldnt have him.
He is lying and will bank the profits.
*I* (Milo) have never heard of this non profit, therefor it doesnt exist.
He wont make any money anyway with his lies, so it doesnt matter.
(and Milo's piece de resistance-) What book? Baked any tulip and unicorn casserole lately?
Slowly, slowly she will be losing the rest of her mythical supporters. I predict there will be a gradual, or maybe sudden, silence on her twitter. Well, except for her sad, lonely retweets about sunshine, rainbows, strength through adversity, holding your head up high when bullied.
The reason we aren't seeing a barrage of tweets is that it takes time for her to go back in twit history to find something inspirational that she can retweet.
Sad pathetic woman. Evil sick woman.
I will guarantee you that any die hard fans of Kate's WILL be purchasing this book. How could they not? Even if they believe it's packed full of lies, the sheeple will not be able to shun a book that talks about their idol.
You'll be able to tell if they do buy what they tweet about in defiance. Should be interesting to watch.
DFWMom, thank you and thanks for the information. I hadn't seen Robert's new post. Great news. I'm sure Kate's fans will either say he's lying or ignore it altogether. They are hopeless.
I notice the fans are treating this like Mady/Shoegate, minimizing it; all kids play dress up, I spank my kids, etc.
Points said... 31
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You got it!
Go Points! It's your Birthday! go Points!
Do you have a regular name?
The best, absolute best thing she could do right now is shut down her twitter account. She's hanging herself with it.
Sue Buddy, is there a way to email you? I have honorable intentions. :)
Interesting that she is tweeting about support but not denying anything. She still thinks she did nothing wrong and that they will see her as the put upon mother.
Marie
In all fairness, Kate, grow up! Oh, *sniff, sniff* thank you wonderful followers for supporting me during another difficult crisis! I need your support!
No...what you need is to realize that YOU are the one responsible for how people see you and your actions. Your view of the occasional, "Oh it was just so stressful for everyone." Has played more than once over your show and situations in your life.
Well you know, guess what? Life is stressful. I find it no excuse to plaster any given situation and your constant meltdowns as it was just stressful. You either learn to control your emotions or you walk away. But you? Oh no, you whine, complain, belittle and make things worse than they need to be to begin with.
You are the one who wanted reality television and the only reason you cry so much when things aren't to your liking these days is because you no longer have your little smoke screen of editing to hide it.
I find it weird that you spend so much time trying to convince other people that you are really likeable. When truth is if you were really ARE likeable you wouldn't need to spend all this time telling your followers, "Oh if you just met me you'd understand, just block everyone who says I'm mean." Do you seriously not see how childish you sound?
Regardless of what you put in books for your kids to read and what you think they will remember by watching old episodes of their lives...that no matter how you spin it your kids are going to remember things about you and their lives that you have no control over. And I can almost with some certainty guarantee you that you will not at all like the fact that your kids will have 8 separate memories and some of those memories could be hurtful if not more.
When people say, "I turned out okay," from whatever aspects of life you were raised in to me it's pretty much just words to sooth over any actual true feelings. "I turned out okay," can mean anything from you really did have an ordinary happy Cleaver childhood to you survived and your parents didn't beat you to death or anything in between. I think it's just words you say so you might feel socially normal. Maybe but it's just my opinion that's all.
Kate, you made the mess by putting yourself out there. You have nobody to blame for your behavior. But you know if you want to spend the rest of your life trying to sweep things under the rug because you want this perfect image than you are just wasting your time. You can control what your kids see or don't see, hear or don't hear, you might even be able to get away with convincing a few fans that just because YOU didn't say it doesn't mean it's not true.
There is however one thing you cannot control. When your children are grown and have memories, good or bad you won't be able to control how they remember them or even how in the end your kids will see you as adults. Kids views are generally they will do anything to love you as their parent and hoping you will love them regardless of how bad you might or might not treat your kids. Validation and self worth will forever mean more to your kids than a trip to Disneyland caught on film.
So...when and maybe even if some of your kids grow up and tell you how they really felt hurt, vulnerable, betrayed or whatever are you going to stand there and say, "Well, I am sorry you don't see things my way."
The scary thing is Kate might say the same thing my mother said, "I do not feel guilty for how I raised you. Too bad you feel that way. You turned out decent." Even if she would, Kate, you still will forever be unable to erase what and how your children saw, held onto memories or for that matter WHAT they remember.
So, go ahead, make your life unfair when people call you out. Make believe that you are just this poor struggle mother of 8 kids. Wear your rose colored glasses and look the other way but your kids will never be able to.
After commercial, Dr. Drew will be showing a nanny cam where their child was abused. It should be very interesting.
The kids are probably in bed by now so she's probably had a few glasses of wine. Her loose lips on twitter are going to get her in even more trouble.
Marie
Dwindle 36,
Yes...
You remind me of a cheerleader! Thanks for the support. You're one of my favorite, funny posters here!!!
Oh shoot, now all you other favorites please don't get jellus.....
DFWMom -- What is CASA?
Dwindle said... 38
Sue Buddy, is there a way to email you? I have honorable intentions. :)
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Hmm. Beats the heck out of me. LOL Maybe through admin somehow?
Milo~
@Kateplusmy8 It time 4 this foolishness dwellin on past mistakes & differences 2b put 2rest. Jon really needs 2move on..& stalker needs2getalife!
"past mistakes"?= beating your children??
Anonymous said... 39
Interesting that she is tweeting about support but not denying anything. She still thinks she did nothing wrong and that they will see her as the put upon mother.
Marie
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I completely believe that. She is waiting for the pity and sympathy and she could care less who her sheeple blame, she is certain it will not be her.
"Look what those ungrateful little diapered brats made their madonna do. Dont they know that she was trying to get them TRIPS!"
Here's the thing: Kate has had PLENTY of time to counter this book release. She knew about it months ago - at least 4 or 5 months? From what Robert has said on his blog, her lawyers obtained a copy of the book. Robert complied with all their requests in order to protect himself and the end result was that they could not legally stop him from releasing the book.
There are several avenues she could have taken with this. She could have done media interviews - gotten a People cover I bet! - if she'd come out and said, "It was so incredibly difficult when the children were toddlers. I lost my temper with them and I'm ashamed of it and that's why I try so hard now to make sure they know they're loved and protected and blah blah blah...."
People and the other mags and TV shows would have gone for it. They've gone for every other lie she's spewed. She would have looked sympathetic. She would have gotten some backlash but if she had been the one to out herself, she'd have gotten way more sympathy because, as we see, plenty of people are willing to overlook spanking.
For ANY of the content of this book, she could have launched a counterattack that would have lessened the damage to her. She was so confident that her lawyers would be able to make that pest Robert Hoffman go away that she didn't even bother trying to come up with a damage control plan. Either that, or she's so used to Julie Carson May and the other scum that have protected her doing all the work that she didn't realize she would need to protect her own ass this time.
What I have hated about Kate all along is how she lies and doesn't think twice about it. She has no guilt. She wants what she wants when she wants it and to hell with anyone that gets in the way of that. And up until now, she's gotten away with it. It's only fitting that HER OWN WORDS are going to be what takes her down.
If and how she did it...she got away with slapping his face on so many episodes\ Always the hitting... She is an abuaive Wife and Mother. I have read here from the beginning and finally the light at the end of the tunnel is shining through....Dean end Gosselin, Just Dead, there is no answer here for you sins.
Ugh, I HATE that TWAT. Lousy excuse for a Mother,
awaya
The twit's tweets said... 192
Tamara asked if Paige has ever met any of the kids or Kate. Unless it's been done on the QT, which I highly doubt since Paige would have never been able to keep it quiet and since her father refused to let her travel to the Kentucky Derby last year to meet Kate, I'd say no. In fact, Kate ignores her on twitter and doesn't reply to thank her for gifts and cards she sends to Kate and the kids.
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Thanks TTTs, is it just me or have 3 of Khate's biggest fans, Milo, Paige and the 'sweet old lady' never actually met her?
The whole thing that is getting lost is the REASON why she beat them to the point that even she was alarmed - because they ate M&Ms without permission didn't it say 3 M&M? It just reinforces what we have always thought - that she does control every morsel that goes in their mouth or suffer the consequences. I just have such a feeling of unease for those kids. Mommy's not happy.
Saturday's the day. Yay Mr. Hoffman.
I can imagine Kate sitting at home all by herself saying "(Lawyer), he didn't know how to help me".
making sure she would get revenge for not staying with her,
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Huh? She divorced him. Remember? KATE filed. Not Jon.
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DFW mom said 14
I just went to Robert's blog and saw that all proceeds are going to CASA.
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Yep, read that too. Thanks Robert!
(don't you know that Kate just HATES it that someone is making money off of her...even if it is a charity. dang)
Wonder what her fans will say to Robert's newest post????
Kate also spills the beans she was beaten too. She and her brother were on a morning show a few years ago, and they were talking about their relationship....Kate said something to the effect that her brother (Kevin) would often take her punishments (kate wouldn't fess up to it, so he would)
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Bless you, Robert.
Even after all you have been through, the bullying, etc... PLUS the huge expense involved-
I thank you, as well.
Take care,
Pink
Here's the thing: Kate has had PLENTY of time to counter this book release.
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True, she had plenty of time. But how do you put up a defense when your own words condemn your actions?
There is no excuse for beating a child. beating a child all the way to his CRIB, and placing him in it for his SAFETY, how do you explain that?
she cut her own throat.
ADMIN!!! I dont know what has changed, but everytime today that I use my bookmark to click on this site, I get a darling Lhaso Apso named "S" and have to go through a few minor contortions to get to the recent thread and posts. Same bookmark I have used for months, so i dont know what happened. I cant seem to fix it. However, wanting to smooch that little furry face again makes me happy so I guess it's no biggie.
More from Deanna
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@Sue_Buddy @msgoody2shoes21 @stashcache @kateplusmy8 If his lies were true Y did he send cryptic tweets for months instead of go to police?
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@msgoody2shoes21 @sue_buddy @stashcache @kateplusmy8 Exactly!!! And why no police report from the person who had the computer and files???
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@Sue_Buddy @msgoody2shoes21 @stashcache @kateplusmy8 Tabloids pay a lot for stories like this, so yes-paycheck from star mag trumps police.
I just stumbled across this blog/place after reading an article about the book. I have to say this....when this show first aired, I watched a few episodes and announced to my family and friends who liked it that I would no longer watch because she Kate is crazy. What I realize now is, that she reminded me of my own crazy mother whose overly clean house and cookie cutter world was so much more important than her children. That is how I recognize this in another person such as Kate.
SO, to all those who told me I was crazy for jumping to conclusions about this lovely family, I say " I TOLD YOU SO!!"
Kate is fake. As fake as her blonde hair. I stopped watching all reality shows because they are ridiculous. They exploit people and they only show the public what they want the public to see. It isn't reality at all.
Those poor kids, I feel so bad for them. I also have a feeling this is only the tip of the iceberg.
Bubbles said...There are several avenues she could have taken with this. She could have done media interviews - gotten a People cover I bet! - if she'd come out and said, "It was so incredibly difficult when the children were toddlers. I lost my temper with them and I'm ashamed of it and that's why I try so hard now to make sure they know they're loved and protected and blah blah blah...."
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I really, really doubt People would have given her an article let alone a cover. With no TLC to back her up, she's, media wise, not much. Well, she's also human being wise not much, but that's another story...
FOR THOSE KATE SUPPORTERS AND TWEETERS WHO READ HERE:
Why hasn't she denied anything?
Please tweet her and ask her to deny it if it's not true.
Please. Ask her.
Gosselin Book has posted one of Kate's diary entries.
I can honestly say that I'm truly sickened by what I read.
Truly.
She is so proud of herself for just beating them as hard as she could but, honestly, there were THREE OVERTURNED HIGHCHAIRS!!!! She held back and didn't critically injure one of her two year olds! Aren't you proud of her?
Um hmm. Wonder how many hours Collin had to sit in his crib? But, hey, honestly,he was safe.
Marie
where can we buy book? Everyone has said Saturday it is available, but "WHERE TO BUY"?
Thanks in advance if someone knows.
Marie, 82...
Yeah, safe but with a sore butt and legs, and missing hair.
IF her fans condone that kind of behavior, then they are monsters like their idol.
Even though it is obvious to anyone with a lick of sense, it still stomps all over my last nerve when those stupid twitter friends of Kate continue to insist that Robert should have ''gone to the police'' with the abuse comments. I suppose it is too much for them to comprehend that the abuse happened YEARS before he found the proof?
Deanna is grasping at straws. She doesn't want this to be true because she has aligned hersel with Kate against the "haters". It's hard sometimes to admit you are wrong.
Marie
I can honestly say that I'm truly sickened by what I read.
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I just took a nice hot bath (long day) and while sitting in there, I thought about this and I actually started crying. To think of those dear, little precious ones being pulled by the hair, slapped so hard that they must have been frightened beyond belief, is just too much to comprehend. Monster is too kind too kind of a word for her.
When you think of the sheeple defending this action, one wonders if they do the same thing to their children.
For momentary relief, try this site:
dogshaming.com for doggie humor
Very cute photos of sweet doggie uh-ohs....... will make you smile. Very cute, heartwarming
Dear Kate,
Please remember this...
" You get what you get, and you dont get upset!"
Seriously though.. I am hoping this will be the wake up call she requires to willingly get the counseling and support she needs. Those kids love her regardless of how she has treated them, and they deserve a mother who loves them enough to admit her mistakes, and take the steps to correct them.
It is amazing the resilience of a child when a parent truly repents and changes their ways...If she doesnt.. then I just continue to pray they will grow up healthy mentally and physically in spite of her.
Just read Robert's latest blog post and it hurts my heart to the core. I sat here reading with tears in my eyes with the thought of what physical and mental abuse these children have endured. And as his post states, if this is what Kate felt comfortable enough to journal, then we can only imagine what events she was too uncomfortable to journal. I knew it would be bad when it all came out one day, but I never, ever dreamed it would be this bad. How can ANYONE justify jerking a child up by the hair?????
My heart hurts for those poor babies!
There has to be a clinical diagnosis for people who refuse to believe something terrible about someone they idolize.
Marie
How does a child have time to turn over three high chairs and she not hear the noise? and why weren't the kids being supervised? if she had gotten her lazy ass out of bed before the kids woke up, she would have more time to get things done. (not that she didn't have a legion of helpers,btw).
Real moms know that once you have a child, your time is no longer your own. A mom has to be with her child every second of the day (or a caregiver, if mom works). You get up early, stay up late, and yes, you are truly exhausted. And no ones leaves your coffee by your bedside for your 8a alarm. biotch please.
Oops, I goofed...
it's www.dog-shaming.com
forgot the hyphen. My bad. Apologies.
Re: those Deanna tweets. What don't they understand that there could have been reports. even investigations, and those are confidential? It's entirely possible that things were looked into, and then it was deemed not necessary to intervene or something was addressed.
As a former teacher, I have had my unfortunate share of reporting suspected abuse of my very young and tender students. Even I am not privy to what happens after that - sometimes protective services showed up and took a kid away and I never saw him again, sometimes they were back the next day, and I could not know what happened. The only time would be if a student was in my class and had a past history of abuse which affected or caused learning disabilities. And even that info was not complete or detailed, just enough info so I could be aware of the situation. It's considered CONFIDENTIAL. ugh
I read Robert's latest post and cried.
I just don't get how she could justify any of this.
How can ANY OF HER "FANS" JUSTIFY THIS??
I feel so sick and sad inside. It just reminds me too much of that little girl I used to be who was always dreading what came next.
I don't know what to think anymore.
Thanks, you guys, for being here. I will try to be here for you as well.
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@Sue_Buddy @msgoody2shoes21 @stashcache @kateplusmy8 If his lies were true Y did he send cryptic tweets for months instead of go to police?
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@msgoody2shoes21 @sue_buddy @stashcache @kateplusmy8 Exactly!!! And why no police report from the person who had the computer and files???
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@Sue_Buddy @msgoody2shoes21 @stashcache @kateplusmy8 Tabloids pay a lot for stories like this, so yes-paycheck from star mag trumps police.
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So Deanna believes that Kate is a criminal and that Robert should report her to the police?
Because that's what she is basically saying even though she doesn't realize it.
TO WHOEVER POSTED re the VIEW MESSAGE BOARDS:
I also tried to register there and the site would not let me. I got a weird message about some child internet law. I wonder if they are blocking people who post here.
heather
Berks Neighbor said... 178
You have more than said a mouthful. Bless you for extending your neck.
Dwindle said... 47
Anonymous said... 39
Interesting that she is tweeting about support but not denying anything. She still thinks she did nothing wrong and that they will see her as the put upon mother.
Marie
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She has to tread verrry lightly with this. Remember when she said she found the accusations that were being made about she and Skeeve having an affair "disgusting, appalling.....? She found the accusations disgusting. No problem with that. But if she started calling the people accusing her of this liars, she could be looking down a libel lawsuit. I always found her careful wording of that denial very telling.
She's screwed. She can't go on a dab 'n sniff tour, branding Robert a liar and damning him to hell because he would absolutely have the right to sue her. She has to settle for letting Deanna and the flock 'o six do it for her.
Anonymous said... 58
I just stumbled across this blog/place after reading an article about the book....
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Since Dmasy is "leaving on jet plane..." Allow me to say Welcome. Please keep reading. Read backwards as much as you can stand to get a good feel for the place. If you can, please pick a name, even if it's ALPHABET or something (it inserts right into "name/URL" and post your thoughts more often. In my own opinion of course. :)
ADMIN!!! I dont know what has changed, but everytime today that I use my bookmark to click on this site, I get a darling Lhaso Apso named "S"
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Are you sure it isn't Stephanie (S) in disguise?
"I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could "
A grown woman on a toddler
I want to vomit. Seriously want to vomit.
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Where are the other children during all of this? Watching their brother get slapped as hard as their mother could slap?
Unbelievable. Unconscionable.
Jane said... 57
More from Deanna
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That's quite cowardly, tweeting me from a locked account. I'd never have seen her tweets if you hadn't posted them.
Another new post is up by Robert. Not the one I referred to a few minutes ago.
TO WHOEVER POSTED re the VIEW MESSAGE BOARDS:
I also tried to register there and the site would not let me. I got a weird message about some child internet law. I wonder if they are blocking people who post here.
heather
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That was me, heather. thank you for validating that I am NOT too stupid to know how to register for a website. i got messages that said "that email is taken" "no email like that can be found" "that login is invalid" "this registration is invalid" ... WTH!!!!!
Blessed To Be Mediocre Mother said... 84
Another new post is up by Robert. Not the one I referred to a few minutes ago
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Her psychosis apparently knows no bounds.
Annoying christian toys from people who dont that KATE INVENTED the name "Aaden". Disgusting christian people. (I am not capitalizing "christian" because either Kate or RH did not."
The thing is, I don't even need to debate whether or not spanking is ok. That's totally beside the point when you have a woman DESCRIBING what she did to her very young children and KNOWING and ADMITTING how wrong it was!
She felt scared she would hurt them terribly, felt she crossed a line, felt horribly guilty, apologized multiple times....only someone who KNOWS they've done something very wrong says things like that.
The ENTIRE journal entry he has up details what SHE EVEN ADMITS is over the top abuse of her toddlers. There are no gray areas. She describes her abusive actions, acknowledges them as crossing a line, and expresses guilt and fear that it could happen again.
Good God, what more would anyone need besides a videotape of her doing it???
CASA - Court Appointed Special Advocates.
It's a program in Reading where adult volunteers are paired with children in the court system (abuse cases and other issues) and serve as their advocates.
Opportunity House is a homeless shelter that runs a variety of programs and a great center for kids and families.
THANK YOU Robert. You picked the perfect charities!
Dwindle and Anonymous heather -- I tried to comment on The View message boards too and it kept telling me I needed to register, so I tried to register and it said that there was already an account with that email address. So -- I tried to register using the email account I ONLY use for my writing group and it also said there was an account using that email addy. However, the site couldn't provide the password for either email addy. So -- my guess is they are deliberately preventing comments on the Kate thread.
Dear Robert,
As chilling and heartbreaking as it is to read the truth about how the Gosselin children were abused by their mother, it is beyond gratifying to know that your heroic actions may have saved them. Furthermore, to donate proceeds of this book to a children's charity is exemplary. The personal sacrifice you must have made to have this book come to light when being attacked by Kate's lawyers, enduring financial expense, time involved etc,-it's just more than any of us could imagine.
"Robert Hoffman for President!"
Kate has to be one of the most ungrateful shrews that has graced the planet.
I hope she skewers her fans in the book. Let's see her fans defend THAT.
ugh!
Over In Kate's County said... 81
ADMIN!!! I dont know what has changed, but everytime today that I use my bookmark to click on this site, I get a darling Lhaso Apso named "S"
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Are you sure it isn't Stephanie (S) in disguise?
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Hehe! Thanks I needed that giggle! No, it is the old thread about Admin's little foster pup from last July. I dont know why my bookmark is suddenly defaulting to that, but I smell a sheeple conspiracy to destract me!
(OMG you psychotic sheeple people, I am kidding! Go find a life!!!)
You know, I hope Jon has given the kids safety instructions and an escape plan in case the carrier flips out on them.
All hide in a safe place together and always have a cell phone on them, with a charged battery, to call 911.
Isn't it terrible that abused kids need a safety plan? Well, isn't terrible that kids are abused at all?
And another thought - we've been hearing all about the abuse. There are many more chapters to go.... while the abuse is probably the most disturbing, who knows what other horrors await as the book is published....
Over In Kate's County said... 82
''Where are the other children during all of this? Watching their brother get slapped as hard as their mother could slap?
Unbelievable. Unconscionable.''
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In our case, the ones not being beaten were lined up on a couch, forced to watch. Actually, if you stop to think of it, a very effective way to punish. Beat one, terrorize the rest.
Yay! Points for safety... shall we give her 2 pts per child? said... 26 LOL
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No, you give her 2 m&m's. You better make sure they don't go over 2 though. lol
readerlady said... 89
Dwindle and Anonymous heather -- I tried to comment on The View message boards too and it kept telling me I needed to register, so I tried to register and it said that there was already an account with that email address. So -- I tried to register using the email account I ONLY use for my writing group and it also said there was an account using that email addy. However, the site couldn't provide the password for either email addy. So -- my guess is they are deliberately preventing comments on the Kate thread.
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EXACTLY what happened to me. Thank you for the validation!
https://www.facebook.com/TheView
I can totally see how Kate could have a hard time taking care of 6 babies and 2 toddlers/kids.. But she had help. Tons of help. I believe she grew lazy when the helpers left and she was on her own. How dare the helpers leave her with 8 kids!! Too bad the helpers didn't know how to "help" her. Kate, I believe, wanted the perfect family. And god forbid if those babies started to grow. They were no longer "cute" in her eyes once they started to talk and have a small voice In their tiny world.
Kate wanted fame and she got it it. But it's never enough for her.. She always wants more. One day she will wake up and realuze she lost everything.. I'm not talking about money..
Sorry for using anon. I'm having issues with gmail.
Donkey teeth
Dwindle:
I appoint you Grand Duchess of Grandeur!
Carry on.
o.k., here goes -- HEY, ALL YOU STUPID, IDIOTIC, THICK HEADED SHEEPLE AND ESPECIALLY PAIGEY: WHAT PART OF SHE PULLED HIM BY THE HAIR AND BEAT HIM AS HARD AS SHE COULD IS DIFFERENT FROM SPANKING? o.k., whew, i'm done for now.
What is shocking to me is how many negative articles are on the internet going as far back as 2007,(I see many listed on the side bar here)that address Jon and Kate's parenting/abuse of their children. This is not the first time Kate has been called out. It seems to me that many people have tried to put a stop to the abuse. Do any of you remember when an organization called 'Abusewatch.net' tried to get TLC to take the show off the air back in 2009? Just like everyone here they saw the abuse on the show, they didn't need a journal to see it. I hope this time, this book will finally stop her. She doesn't have TLC to help her out anymore! I do think the 'View' must have gotten a little message from them (TLC)this morning. Are you kidding a spoon is ok???
I haven't finished reading everything and someone else may have addressed this, but on p. 4 of this thread someone asked about Kate carrying a "baton-like tube" and I THINK what I remember is her in the garage with what I thought at the time was maybe the inside of a paper towel roll - Collin (I think) had just hit or bitten Aaden (I think) and she grabbed C roughly by the arm to make him apologize - and then she bopped C ON THE HEAD with the tube. I definitely remember being horrified at that last part. Not that I thought she was going to hurt him - if in fact it was cardboard - but that she would hit a kid in the head - especially as part of a lesson about not biting/hitting/whatever.
Dwindle, Grand Duchess of Grandeur,
Please continue to buy polar things. Polar fleece, polar snow, polar ice caps.... it's an exellent way to spend your money. It stimulates the polar economy and strengthens the polar communities in the arctic circle and anarctica.
Carry on, your royal highness.....
The View FB page is ugly ugly ugly. Much racism and no room today for a comment from anyone who is not an Ann Coulter fan. Read page at your own risk. Horrible name calling and the worst of America over there.
I ran back here as fast as I could. Hold me...
Oopsy, Dwindle
I seemed to have gotten someone's wool in a knot.
Sorry ... didn't mean to start anything. I was just giggling at the grandeur comment a few posts back.
It's a typical reaction to all of the Kate shit, though, to come on this blog and start attacking posters. Makes perfect sense to me.
I just read the new post at Gosselin Book. I had taken a 2 hour break, had a bite to eat, and now I have tears in my eyes and feel sick to my stomach.
I won't even look at sheeple tweets, because I'm sure I'll throw something. How can they defend her, when she's not even defending herself?
The one thing that did put a smile on my face was to see that Robert will be donating any proceeds to CASA.
Robert, I truly admire you for that. I commend you for taking on the tremendous task. I know how I feel reading it, I can't imagine how you must have felt writing it.
Dwindle, Grand Duchess of Grandeur,
Check yourself.
Check to make sure your slip isn't showing and your nylon seams are straight in the back. Check to see if you have a clean hankie in your purse and you don't have lipstick on your teeth.
Check to make sure you have a quarter to call home and check your watch to make sure you won't miss the train.
Check to make sure you have all your books to be returned to the library as you pass it on the way to the train.
Everything all set? Check! Roger that!
Oh, you're good to go. Carry on!
Hugs from your friends!!!
C.A.S.A. stands for Court Appointed Special Advocate Association. When I worked for Harley Davidson, I met a wonderful biker group called BACA (bikers against child abuse). They worked closely with the CASA in our area. There were even times that they rode up, as a group, to assist with the removal of an abused child. There were some of these guys that were pretty scary looking, but at every event and fundraiser, the love that they showed these children was amazing!
There have been times while reading this blog I have laughed and cried and been mad as hell. My husband asked me, "why do you read all this stuff if it upsets you so much?" I told him that I started at GWOP and then found this blog and by damned I am going to see this through. My heart breaks for the children.
My mom was a classic NPD. She took valium every day and her doctor told her she should not be a stay at home mom because he worried for my safety. Thank God I had the most wonderful dad in the world. He more than made up for my mother's behavior. He also wouldn't let my mom lay a hand on me.
SeeSaw -- Thank you for the info on CASA. I agree. A perfect choice. Thank you Robert Hoffman.
A word to the wise -- BAAAAAAAAA alert!
Sorry for using anon. I'm having issues with gmail.
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You don't have to use your google account. Use the scroll down at the bottom of the comments column, find the Name/URL option (right above anonymous) type in "donkeyteeth" and hit publish.
Did you read the whole entry? She said she loved the kids and she felt guilty. Doesn't that erase her mistake?
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The above comment should be read with a sarcastic tone. Thank you.
Thanks, Readerlady.
I stepped in sheep shit once tonight.
Hopping around to avoid the manure piles now.
Check before leaving the house! said... 109
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hugs. hugs. rumspringa. High five. hugs.
Here's the thing, and I havent wanted to say this. I also got emails from this person, so I know exactly who it is. Even though she closed her email address.
In the meantime, I will continue to say hello to new posters unless a bunch of others have said it before me. And I will not apologize for being licensed in my state as able to diagnose and treat bipolar. THAT panic was a little weird there, MP.
To those who are having troubling registering on The View site--is it possible that you may have registered on another ABC or Disney site at one time? Once you register on one site, your user ID and password is valid for all ABC and Disney sites.
Also, you must use a valid email address. At one time ABC would not verify email addresses, but they do now.
Dwindle,
I'm not sure SeeSaw and I can do much with # 102...
I guess we'll all just have to ignore, ignore, ignore it.
Double triple secret hugs rumspringa hugs from your friends.
SeeSaw said... 114
Thanks, Readerlady.
I stepped in sheep shit once tonight.
Hopping around to avoid the manure piles now.
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SeeSaw and Readerlady, it is not a sheep, it's a regular.
CASA is a wonderful program I've had the privilege to work with several times and if I'm not mistaken there were a few CASAs who posted here in the past.
SeeSaw said... 88
CASA - Court Appointed Special Advocates.
It's a program in Reading where adult volunteers are paired with children in the court system (abuse cases and other issues) and serve as their advocates.
Opportunity House is a homeless shelter that runs a variety of programs and a great center for kids and families.
THANK YOU Robert. You picked the perfect charities!
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CASA does valuable work locally and nationally.
http://www.casaforchildren.org/site/c.mtJSJ7MPIsE/b.5301295/k.BE9A/Home.htm
I'm heartsick for the Gosselin children, in my mind I see the horror of Kate slapping, whipping, pulling their hair and who knows what else. A grown woman beating helpless toddlers, I wish I could stop thinking about this. As to the dullards defending her, I say shame on you, you defend the indefensible and you are the worse for it. Deanna, you are complicit and complacent and Katie Irene will drag you down with her, have fun because your career will take a hit; no one leaves Katie Irene intact, mentally or spiritually. She Is Just That Toxic.
Dwindle said... 118
''SeeSaw and Readerlady, it is not a sheep, it's a regular.''
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Just because #102 is a regular, doesn't mean the regular isn't a sheep!!
Dwindle - sorry. I made a snarky comment in your defense and somehow got in the middle of a series of posts that I don't understand.
Hope we're okay ... didn't mean to start anything.
SeeSaw,
It's bad enough to step in it, but trying to pick out the dried sheep shit from the treads of my running shoes the next morning is the pits.
Someone else said this earlier, we can expect much of this for the next little while as the book comes out. They can't defend the carrier so they come here to make pissy talk. Apparently some of it is mean and personal.
Admin will take care of them. Swiffer, swiffer. We just have to ignore, ignore, ignore AND defend our own. Love your appointment of Dwindle as Duchess! Brilliant!
I think the sheeple are mostly quiet with the exception of a few idiots. Not all of them are stupid enough to publicly support the abuse of toddlers.
In Canada..we stand in honour of our fallen..in silence for 145 kms..
In honour of the g-children, I will refrain from comment..
the 8 lostchilhoods..my heart bleeds..I too shall take a break and spend my time sending tonglen to those poor kids..
may they be pritected, laugh andd enjoy their breif childhood
be back at some point=)
Oh my aching brain! I just waded through the Sheeple shit to see what they were spewing to justify this. Not worth repeating, but there is something seriously wrong with these people. I mean SERIOUSLY wrong!
If these are Kate's own journal entries and emails, case closed. How can they really think Hoffman "made up" these journal entries and emails. Talk about an open and shut court case if someone is creating documents in your name. Again, oh my aching brain! How do these people function in life?
Also, I was looking at the Mayo Clinic site reading the symptom lists for bipolar, borderline and narcissistic personality disorders. There are symptoms that I just haven't see in Kate in her "realest reality show ever" or in interviews, but the symptom list for narcissistic personality disorder looks like it is written straight from her personality. I mean she has every single symptom. It's frightening.
SeeSaw 122,
I loved your making Dwindle the Duchess of Grandeur in order to neutralize the snot of post girlfriend 94. Brilliant move and very supportive.
Post 109 Checking before you leave the house AND
Post 105 Buy Polar Ice were both written to ALSo neutralize the pissiness of post 94.
105 and 109 were lovingly written. Confusing perhaps, but a riff on your Duchess of Grandeur to keep Dwindle from hurt.
No one hurts our Dwindle! LOL
The only post that was a stumper was 102.
I'm pretty sure Dwindle will ignore and admin will swiffer.
Sorry for the confusion.
Well, Milo called it a day when LOM pulled the plug. She's sweeping it under the rug, enough debate. It's all a smear campaign, no proof, and she's upset because she can't gather enough Kate supporters in her love and encouragement brigade.
Meanwhile, Paige is consoling Kate. She's always there for Kate. Yes, Paige, you will be the first one Kate calls when she needs advice on how to see this through. Cry a river for her, Paige.
I wonder, though, when Milo reads the chapter on animal abuse, will she continue to demand pictures of Shoka? I think that she cares more about animals than about children, so it should be interesting!
Aggiemom #55, that's what I mean...she had time to at least try to come up with a defense & couldn't manage to do it, because there is no defense against her own words.
She thought TLC would always be around to shut everyone up!
Did anyone see the latest article on ROL?
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/09/kate-gosselin-wooden-spoon-spankings-criticized-child-abuse-group
TV Guide Canada now has the story on the front page of their website under Breaking News.
http://tvguide.ca/home/
Anonymous@58, you forgot to add OH.YES.SHE.DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not all of them are stupid enough to publicly support the abuse of toddlers.
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Actually, they are that stupid. They don't see it as abuse, and therefore they will continue to defend her by placing the blame elsewhere, even on the poor child.
Kate is a twit 130,
LOL - my oh my...... well she did want to be internationally known and breaking news.
Goal achieved! Too funny.
Thanks for sharing that with us.
Khate is NPD..as a daughter of am NPD mother..life experience is my expertize
A CASA in my state, Court Appointed Special Advocate, does awesome work. A CASA volunteer is assigned by Juvenile Court to befriend and advocate for a child that is in a foster home placement. These kids are usually lost in the system and the CASA does everything from taking the kids to baseball games and writing report recommendations to the Judge on behalf of the foster youth.
Thanks Robert. I hope children in PA are helped from the proceeds of your book. I will buy your book.
RH has a new post up. I guess it's a email Kate sent to someone saying how annoying fans are.
It's no wonder Collin has lashed out in anger in recent years after how his mother mistreated him as a mere toddler. Even worse, she used him in the corn maze "episode" by addressing his issues ON CAMERA in order to make herself look like she was responsible for his improved behaviour. Callous, manipulative, hypocritical...the list goes on. It appears she's largely responsible for his issues which should have been kept private. My heart goes out to this poor child and his siblings.
I know I said I wouldn't look but I took a quick look at Kate's twitter on twazzup. Maybe I overdosed on sheeple tweets, because this one actually made me laugh.
SoConfusing2me
@xxxx @xxxx @xxxx @Kateplusmy8 Prove they are Kate's words.Hoffman has spent a lot of time on the bash blogs. He knows to say.
This is a new twitter account,opened today, which I suspect is an existing sheeple under a different name, especially since one of her followers is Deanna.
So are we named as one of the sources in the book, too?
Does anyone know if Shoka is now with Jon? Even though kart twits about him, I consider anytime she is talking she is lying, so the poor dog could be anywhere.
Hope he's safe with Jon. He really loved those dogs.
We're considered a bash blog?
Hmmm...... should we be insulted? LOL
Man, Polly really doesn't like that Robert has a book coming out does she? She has a new post up.
Kate is a twit 138,
Well, crapping crackerjacks! I keep asking her 6 fanz to tweet kart and ask her point blank to deny everything.
Do they do it? NO. None of them will ask her if she really did what the book says.
All it would take is one little tweet from from of her 6 fanz.
"@kateplusmy8 Is it true? If not, please tweet a denial."
There, I actually wrote it out for them all they have to do is cut and paste.
Do you think I should hold my breath waiting?
Anonymous said... 72
There has to be a clinical diagnosis for people who refuse to believe something terrible about someone they idolize.
Marie
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Yes, Anonymous Marie. It is called Head-Up-Their-Assissism.
Sassy Lassy,thanks for liking my name:) I was bullied all thru elementary school because of it, even by one of my male teachers. I was an adult when the movie came out, and was thrilled to buy the doll at Burger King!
After the abuse started happening to me, I changed to spelling of it to 2 n's, it was my own little dig at my parents, something I could control. Juvenile, I know, but I was only 9 years old.
I was wondering how everyone on here felt about the amount of money that kate put into the Trust for the kids. To me, a million dollars does not seem very fair, after dividing it between the 8 kids. It was because of them that kate got any money, why do they not get the bulk of it? Surely kate has put away millions for herself. Anybody else here feel like I do?
About the crazy sheeple- I have read lots of their comments over the last couple of years, and I think that so many of them are plain un-educated. Add that to some that are just plain dumb, missing the common sense gene, and it becomes a lot easier to see why they have their heads up kate's azz, and are not able to see the truth. They will never understand why having their own mother beating on them is so wrong. You have to be very, very dumb, to keep sheltering a child abuser. I just can't understand them.
I had to take a break from here for a few hours today, got a big batch of chile made, banana breads, and chocolate beet cake.I came back here and saw all of the comments I missed out on, so got caught up on them all. One thing I am suprised about, is just how MANY of us were abused as children.Just on this one blog! And how many of us feel sick about this. I am glad to be part of a supportive group here, makes it a little easier to know I am not alone. Goodnight, all:)
I read Polly's blog posting. I'm really shocked that she doesn't like that he's publishing a book.
I wonder if there are some hard feelings somewhere. Her comments confuse me.
Dwindle, pay no attention to the ugly nonsense. I hope you know you are a real bright spot on this blog.
She's come undone (101) - I'll bet that felt really good!
Thank you, Robert Hoffman.
Kate Gosselin's child abuse scandal, made it onto tonight's "Dish Nation" celebrity news show... after TMZ local FOX TV. They also asked, why anyone would want to purchase a book about Katie.... Until they learned it was an expose'.
As for the beatings-- I have known for a long time what must be happening. There was a blogger back in 2008, named "Big Wooden Spoon"... and I saw the photos. I certainly didn't think Kate was using that big wooden spoon to bake bread in the cab of the BBB!
Call Me Crazy 143 -
"It is called Head-Up-Their-Assissism."
LOL, I needed that laugh!!
But I thought the correct term for those who so easily dismessed the deplorable actions of a person with NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder), was that they themselves also suffered from NPD (Nincom Poop Disorder)!
Permanent Name in Blue said... 142
Kate is a twit 138,
Well, crapping crackerjacks! I keep asking her 6 fanz to tweet kart and ask her point blank to deny everything.
Do they do it? NO. None of them will ask her if she really did what the book says.
All it would take is one little tweet from from of her 6 fanz.
"@kateplusmy8 Is it true? If not, please tweet a denial."
There, I actually wrote it out for them all they have to do is cut and paste.
Do you think I should hold my breath waiting?
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Here you go Khate, I'll write your line for you. Just remember my fee is a gazillionbillionkatrillion £ if you use it. And Marty Singer is on speedial.
"I will not dignify that question with an answer."
We always knew she was abusive to Collin. She seemed to complain about him and Alexis the most. Joel must have known to just be quiet and invisible to avoid her wrath. Hannah is the same as Joel, but because she is the "golden child" she is safe from Kate's rage. Mady is trying to be the "golden child" to please Kate and Cara is similar to Joel and just tries to be invisible. So sad for these poor children.
Call me crazy 146,
I could call you crazy, but I think I'll call you 'nice' instead. :-)
Why yes, Duchess Dwindle is our very own bright spot here. She buys polar ice caps that we can all visit on a road trip, or sleigh trip as the case may be. We'll all wear her polar fleece designed underwears to keep warm in case the rumspringas fail to keep our circulation going.
Before we all head out, she'll check herself and all of us to make sure we have returned all our library books before getting on the train. She'll check that we all have our stocking seams straight even though they won't be visible under our polar fleece snow pants.
We love Duchess. Nobody messes with our queen of comedy! It's nice to see the wagons circling.
We can't do much to keep the buzzards away but we can have fun with them.
It's me, just not in blue, sorry
Permanent Name (145) - I suspect she may be somewhat put out because Robert has the real goods. It makes her book and Al Walentis' book look very lightweight. I don't want to discuss her post too much, but her argument that Robert's book is not detailing any new "shocking" allegations misses the significant point that his source was Kate herself.
Up until now, there was only speculation and suspicion about child abuse. Now Kate's own words have provided the damning proof.
I wonder if there are some hard feelings somewhere.
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She says that is nothing in this book that she and Al didn't uncover first, and that Robert is just out to make money by riding on the backs of what she put out first. Al is questioning how Robert is able to use material taken directly from Kate's journals without Kate's permission. Moreover, she is saying that this will be forgotten quickly because it's a rehashing of what was known before.
In other words, move along, there's really nothing new (or shocking) to see here...
I'm thinking of changing my avatar. Those huge orange boobs and bra just about blind me when I post.
Too noticible. They attract sheep like moths to a flame. It must be the orange. And the big boobs.
I'm signing off for tonight and have promised DH that I won't look at anything kart related until Monday. He's quite annoyed that this whole kartshit fiasco is making me crazy. He's right. Why do we do this to ourselves??!!
I sure I hope I don't get the DKs. Delirium karts.
SeeSaw, that was nice that you stuck up for Dwindle. Next road trip, I'll buy you a rumspringa!
I forgot to mention--
I have indeed, called... written my letters... e-mails... and sent online communication to Discovery/TLC over the years, concerning Kate's very apparent abuse, to no avail.
I support Paul Petersen's continued efforts, and the donation going to CASA... 100%! Hopefully, they will be getting my $19.99 this weekend. Jon's "Kate is a Good Mom" interview to the tabloids out of nowhere- was a humble attempt at damage control, I beleive. Kind of like when Kate demeaned her Stevie Boy, for not having the 'RV Breakdown' pics deleted from the local campers' cameras. Something tells me, she's had PB's foo-foo drink photo plastered as her laptop's Wallpaper, all this time. That's probably how Jon found out she'd been pining for Kiwi, since Disney.
Allegedly!! !!!!!!
Remona, SeeSaw, Call Me Crazy, and all
thank you. good thing I bought rumspringa in a 50lb oragnic SACK, coz I have lots of sips to pass out to all.
Annastasia ~ I recently heard of a chocolate beet cake and made it. My son liked it too :-).
When someone gets rude to Dwindle, that is unfathomable. I believe someone must be jealous.
I believe Kate's free ride is over. Karma baby.
Dwindle,
You are most welcome. My pleasure!
Permanent Name - I vote for keeping the orange twins, but will support whatever you decide to do. And ((hug)). Big time.
Permanent Name in Blue said... 145
This post at Gosselin Book, basically explains why Polly(and Al) have hard feelings about Robert. He wrote it in rebuttal to Polly's original post about his book.
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/2012/06/response-to-gosselin-blogger.html
In her new post today, Polly also accused Robert of going to the Star in order to sell more copies of his book. Seems to me that Polly and Al are jealous that Robert is getting as much attention as he is. I don't recall them getting much attention when their books were published.
Dwindle said... 156
Remona, SeeSaw, Call Me Crazy, and all
thank you. good thing I bought rumspringa in a 50lb oragnic SACK, coz I have lots of sips to pass out to all.
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GULP! Thanks Dwindle... I needed that. (I think I may have just drank Call Me Crazy's shooter ;)
Watch the movie "Sex Drive" sometime. Rumspinga... Whoo!! Is my favorite quote from it.
Kate is a Witch said... 87
Good God, what more would anyone need besides a videotape of her doing it???
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Then they would say it's all bad editing, and CGI graphics designed to hurt their dahling.
With not one other excuse to fall back on, they will blame the babies. They may be as sick as Kate is. Maybe that mantra of their's "You would do it too if you could" is hitting pretty close to home for them right now.
Actually, SeeSaw and Dwindle, the post you mention isn't the one that triggered my BAAAAAAAAAAAA instincts, but it'll do. I think we have a couple of them lurking around tonight. Careful of the sheepshit. Maybe we should hire a bell goat to herd the flock back where they belong. Where's Border Collie when we need her?!
Boy, I ruined that one- RumSPRINGA... WHOO!!
How do we know Jon didn't report the abuse? CPS was once called on my mother, after she and my older sister had a fight when she was a teen. My Dad didn't even know, until I mentioned it later. Funny... my sister never called anyone regarding his abuse. I guess the weekly angora sweaters made it all o.k. for her.
Twit said -- "In her new post today, Polly also accused Robert of going to the Star in order to sell more copies of his book. Seems to me that Polly and Al are jealous that Robert is getting as much attention as he is."
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If I were to do a post in her shoes, it would have been very simple, something along the lines that child abuse in this country continues to be an ongoing concern, that there has been evidence all along that something wasn't right in the Gosselin household, and that I wish him well as he releases his book, hoping that if there is good to come out of it, it would be to alert the readers and the media that child abuse takes many forms and that Kate has always put herself first, using "everything I do, I do for my kids" as a false mantra.
No more, no less. No mention of her book or Al's book.
But then again, what do I know?
"There has to be a clinical diagnosis for people who refuse to believe something terrible about someone they idolize."
I'd have to put them is the same category as the women who marry murderers on death row. The fans excusing her behavior should be ashamed of themselves.
I have a feeling when this book comes out the fans are going to have the visual proof of her journal and that it didn't take this man 5 years to do something about what he knew. I hope so anyway. What will they say then?
Whoever is in charge of the Rumspringa, could you please send some my way? I really need something to help me sleep tonight.
Just food for thought for the fans:
Some of the people who excused, covered for, and enabled Jerry Sandusky were charged.
With not one other excuse to fall back on, they will blame the babies
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Dwindle, one of them already did, claiming that the babies caused her stress or she wouldn't have done what she did.
SoConfusing2me
@xxxx @xxxx @xxxx @Kateplusmy8 Prove they are Kate's words.Hoffman has spent a lot of time on the bash blogs. He knows to say.
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Actually, as a public figure, Kate is the one who has to prove those are not her words.
These people are so stupid. Don't they think the entertainment lawyer of the year would have stopped this all months ago if it were a lie?
Just to set the record straight, I was not a source for Hoffman and he is not a source for me.
Kristine said... 164
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Awww Kristine. I dont know what to say about sweaters. Everyone deals, or not, in their own way, perhaps even your sister. I am so sorry for the hurt in your heart and for what put it there. I hesitate to offer more words of support as it will just upset The Someone Who Shall Not Be Named, but you are not alone.
Well she tweeted thanking her enablers for their support of this child abuser at the expense of the victims/children.
But not a single indication that any of this was a lie.
When will her fans get it? It's true and Kate would be the first to tell us otherwise if it weren't.
I might be satisfied with one "I have NEVER hit my children in anger!" tweet from @KatePlusMy8.
But we now know otherwise... Kate's own words coming back to haunt her. Actor, Eric Roberts was right. "Kate Gosselin IS a child abuser."
I will tell you guys all about my many chats with him, one day. He is an amazing, insightful and REAL person!
Kate is a twit said... 167
Whoever is in charge of the Rumspringa, could you please send some my way? I really need something to help me sleep tonight.
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Shhhh. Here, quick, before it upsets The Someone. I poured you a big one and balanced fruit and girly junk on the rim. For the 'come hither baby' look, you'll have to gaze at ratclaws/purseboy on your own.
ooops, gotta go. I think I hear The Someone gnashing her teeth!
"But not a single indication that any of this was a lie."
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Admin, you just made my point! Thank you and GN!
ooops, gotta go. I think I hear The Someone gnashing her teeth!
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All two of them? I guess then it isn't very loud. You must have good hearing! :)
Al is questioning how Robert is able to use material taken directly from Kate's journals without Kate's permission.
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When you're exposing child abuse and other misdeeds, there's really not much law that is going to get you in trouble for exposing someone's journal. Even moreso when they are a public figure. Even moreso if you did nothing illegal to get it, like she emailed it around to a bunch of people and those people decided to share it with others.
Usually once you send an email there's nothing you can do to prevent the person on the other end from forwarding it to someone else.
Well this is interesting, Khate is scheduled to be on Katie Curic's new TV show on October 3rd. The show is called "Who we are through reality TV". Vomit.
Here is the synopsis: "Reality TV is more than a guilty pleasure for many of us – it’s who we are. TV has been bringing us into one another’s homes for decades. It’s become a place where people put their lives on display and others go to experience reflections of themselves. In this show, we’ll explore the reality TV phenomenon through some of today’s best shows that take a snapshot of America while shining a light on who we are. And one of the most well-known mothers of reality TV, Kate Gosselin, will tell us how she’s now doing it all on her own – as a mother of eight."
I wonder if Katie Curic is aware of the scandal Khate is facing? She could ask Khate some hard questions! (Apologies if this info has already been posted.)
I wonder if Kate's lawyers(Marty Singer or Cheryl Young) and Julie May Carson have advised her not to say or tweet anything until after the book is released,especially since child abuse is not the only topic. I don't think this will pass without some sort of statement and I bet Kate is going crazy right now that she can't rebut anything.
This is too big for them to just sweep under the rug. By not saying anything at all, even after the book is published is basically admitting guilt, and that is something Kate will not do.
It's going to be an interesting weekend.
Thanks, Dwindle. Aaaah-I needed that. You're a lifesaver as well as a Duchess.
I wonder if Kate's lawyers(Marty Singer or Cheryl Young) and Julie May Carson have advised her not to say or tweet anything until after the book is released,especially since child abuse is not the only topic. I don't think this will pass without some sort of statement and I bet Kate is going crazy right now that she can't rebut anything.
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Probably. She has to be careful what she says. She might be exposing herself to criminal charges or even losing her children if she says the wrong thing.
Well this has definitely gone viral for sure! I just googled "Kate Gosselin beating kids" and I stopped counting at 30 websites!
Pulling The Wool said... 176
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I am not going to laugh, I am not going to... Ok I laughed!
Thank you for your kind words, Dwindle. I dealt with my father's anger and abuse- a long time ago. My Dad is now my best holiday buddy. Mom was not an abuser- she was dealing with a crazy teen and another bipolar sister that acted like Veruca Salt!
"I waaaaaant an Everlasting Gobstopper!" Unreal.
whistlingdixiee said... 178
''Well this is interesting, Khate is scheduled to be on Katie Curic's new TV show on October 3rd. The show is called "Who we are through reality TV". Vomit''
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I wonder when Kate was booked on Katie's show? Do you really think that Kate will still appear? I can't believe even Kate is stupid enough to do that.
Dwindle, S's permanent home sends me updates and they send me the most adorable picture of S, whose new name is F, in a visor and cute outfit, lol. And her mommy is letting her hair grow LONG and feminine!
Katie Couric has a feature on her TV show's website, you can ask her a question. Khate will be there on Wednesday. Is her show live? There still could be time to email some questions about the revelations in Robert's book...
Abused children survive in any way they can. In your case, you didn't 'advocate' for your brother, because that was your way to survive. In my case, we DID band together, attempt to protect each other in any way we could.
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I agree with Remona. Children react to abuse in 100 different ways. Band together, turn on each other, internalize it, externalize it, and on and on and on.....there's really just no way to say how a child will react.
"Well this is interesting, Khate is scheduled to be on Katie Curic's new TV show on October 3rd. The show is called "Who we are through reality TV"."
Before this mess started, Kate twittered exciting things were coming up. This is probably what she meant. I wonder when it will be taped. Surely Katie can't be fooled by Kate now?
Dwindle is the woman of the hour.
Happy Hour. I love everyone here, thanks for being... well just- YOU!
YAY!!! Hopefully a spoiled and pampered princess in the making!
Dwindle her new mommy is a successful writer and basically stays home all day and has people over. So she gets TONS of interaction which is so great for her because she LOVES attention and people all day long never tires of it. I could never get this dog to nap, LOL. No four hour naps for her like my dog does!
So Kate is scheduled to be on Katie Couric's new show on Wednesday? That show is on ABC. No wonder the View soft pedaled that story. But they probably mentioned it so more people will tune in to Katie's show.
Why do people keep saying she's doing it all alone? That irritates the hell out me. They still have a father.
Is Katie's show taped or is it live? I've never watched it. Is this the "exciting" Kate was talking about?
"There has to be a clinical diagnosis for people who refuse to believe something terrible about someone they idolize."
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I guess it's just enabling. You see it a lot with those around people doing bad things, there's usually at least someone who supports them.
I think Katie Curic's show is taped. Drat! So when did Khate go to NY to tape the Katie show???
Maybe she will be debating who exactly is the "REAL" @KatieKeurig. I wonder what papers and magazines she has been reading... or not.
Let's talk about the ABUSE.... Steve????????
The next person to pick on Dwindle or anyone else is banned. If you have a problem with someone, you can email me and discuss your concerns and I'll make the call how to deal with the issue, or whether I even think there IS an issue, and in this case I certainly don't.
I wonder if they will pull her Katie Couric segment. Lately when anything questionable happens especially with child abuse they pull things.
There was some show on this summer that was kind of like Who's Line is it Anyway that got pulled right away when the host got in trouble. Anyone know what I'm talking about? I am drawing a blank on the name of the show but they advertised it like all summer then all of a sudden poof it was gone.
I will cut someone, if they talk badly about Dwindle. I dig her.
(Kidding... Stop Abuse!)
According to Katie's show's website, the show is taped. It airs in NY at 3pm on ABC.
“Katie” tapes on weekdays only. Our show schedule may vary from week to week, but we typically tape Monday through Friday at 12 p.m. from August through July.
So this must have been pre-taped. Maybe when Kate was in NY for the fashion show?
I wonder if Khate will be on Katie's show for the whole hour? Why in the world wouldn't Khate tell her FLOCK that she is going to be on a NATIONAL TELEVISION SHOW??? Why isn't she shouting this information to the rooftops?? What a MORON! It's not like she is constantly on the airways these days...this SHOULD be a big deal for her...
It probably was pre-taped, yes. If so, lots of talk about running and CC.
Unless that was Kate's conference call... in prep. for an upcoming taping?
I would so cancel, Katie(s).
Admin-I think the show you're talking about is the one with Fred Willard-"Trust Us With Your Life," which ABC pulled after he was arrested for lewd behavior.
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