'I know without a doubt that we did the right thing.'
We will do a “book club” style discussion of a few chapters at a time as we read the book together. You are free to read with the group or skip ahead. You are also free to discuss whatever you like, however if you want to partake in the book club discussion, this thread is here to discuss the designated chapters. Robert Hoffman’s book “Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World” was available on Amazon for Kindle, but has been suspended with an unknown date when it will be available again. The Kindle app is free for multiple platforms, including PCs.
8. Show Me the Money!!!!! Part 1
Kate has been marketing the sextuplets even before they were
born. She invited dozens of media to their first birthday party. She requested
a 15-passenger van and that people give Target gift cards in lieu of sending
gifts.
Kate was extremely paranoid that
other families with multiples could steal her thunder. Betty Hayes, a New Jersey mother of
sextuplets and two sets of twins, called Kate asking about their first special
and about being paid and receiving freebies. Kate writes that she is “mad” that
the Hayes are getting another special, and “I am merely trying to provide
for my family and rely on the Lord to do so! He is in control and I HATE this
competition pressure I am forced to deal with!
After the first Discovery special aired and did well, talks
commenced for a second special and a 20-episode contract. Discovery agreed to
pay the family $2,000 an episode, with many things comped including Disney
World and the grocery shopping trip to Giant. Kate was involved in a lot of
back and forth e-mails with producer Jen Stocks about episode ideas and money.
As time went on, Kate grew more demanding about what things Discovery would
comp. She also continued to take checks and cash from fans, friends and
relatives, sometimes checks for several hundred dollars or more.
In October 2006, Kate’s grandmother died. Kate wrote this
about the funeral: “Her service was
nice except that our mother tried to preach to us children through her tribute
to grandma… none of us appreciated that!!!”
In March 2007, Kate called Discovery’s treatment of them
“wining and dining” and refers to it as
a “magical time.” For
season two, Jon and Kate wanted $6,000 an episode. Discovery negotiated them
down to $5,000.
Kate
obsessively tried to line up other money making opportunities, for example
commercials. She accused Discovery of “sucking the life” out of deals after
there was concern a commercial she wanted to do for Fridgidaire might compete
with some of their other advertisers. Kate had visions of filming even when she
was “old and gray.” In one email she writes: “I also
want to secure a 'foreverness' for our family (house, college etc) that goes
beyond our show so that when I look back when I am old and gray (and probably
STILL filming- ha ha) I know without a doubt that we did the right thing.”
9. Show Me the Money!!!!! Part 2
The Gosselins made less money per episode than some sources
have reported. Season one they made $2,000 an episode. Season two and three
they made $5,000 an episode. Season four was $9,000 per episode, which was
later re-negotiated to $22,500. Season five stayed at $22,500 per episode.
Kate hired a new manager, Julie Carson May, in April 2008.
May was heavily involved in contract negotiations. She fought to try to limit
the family’s commitment to the show to an average of three days a week, that
each season include at least 35 episodes, and that the family would be
compensated for episodes even if they used old footage from previous seasons
(i.e. flashback episodes), for first class travel and “overages” of $600 a day
per family member and $75 per diem per day per family member. She proposed a
ghost writer to write TLC’s Jon and Kate blog because Kate didn’t have time. Tax
obligations were flagged as something to be discussed. She wanted the
family to have input and approval over merchandising.
The list of freebies Kate was able to get Discovery and others to pay for or at least offer to her is astounding. Landscaping, fences, Gymboree, ski clothes for Cara, a condo near Cancun, a beach house in North Carolina, an offer for filming a breast augmentation in San Diego and subsequent recovery at a resort called The Hideaway [Admin note: My source says Kate ultimately chose Dr. Glassman to do her breasts, without filming. In the book she indeed says she has a choice between Glassman (but no filming) orSan Diego
(filming), though doesn’t say which one she ended up choosing. One wonders if
some kind of executive decision was made to keep the boob job secret for image
reasons, even though they had an offer to film it.], at least $500 a week at Ann Taylor, make-up, Olay daily facials, Crest whitestrips, camping equipment,
furniture, Charmin toilet paper, invisible fence for the dogs, and a trip to
Niagara Falls. Kate responded to an
offer from a doctor to give just Jon
Lasik surgery that she wanted it for both
of them. Kate frequently follows up with those who gave her free
things, straight out asking for more and claiming how much she talks about how
great their products are.
The list of freebies Kate was able to get Discovery and others to pay for or at least offer to her is astounding. Landscaping, fences, Gymboree, ski clothes for Cara, a condo near Cancun, a beach house in North Carolina, an offer for filming a breast augmentation in San Diego and subsequent recovery at a resort called The Hideaway [Admin note: My source says Kate ultimately chose Dr. Glassman to do her breasts, without filming. In the book she indeed says she has a choice between Glassman (but no filming) or
Kate once shamelessly skipped out on a scheduled weekly
conference call with Discovery to go to the spa. There were also discussions
about a deal for Cara and Mady to “write” a series of children’s books. Perhaps
most disturbing of all, there was discussion about designing an iPhone game
around the children. Part of the game description includes: “The game starts with the player taking on the roll of Kate on Monday
morning. The player must get through 7
day/night cycles to win the games first level.
Each level will not only be separated by days, but each day will also be
separated in sections breakfast time, lunch and dinner time, with bedtime being
the goal the player trying to reach each day. The first week is an example of
basic daily life, from getting the oldest kids ready for school to getting the
rest of the kids ready for their meals, in this case breakfast. Each of the
kids run of different timers, where they will get antsy, crying or even have a
full tantrum depending on how long they are left alone or not given what they
need.”
Kate and Beth received a $100,000 advance for their book
Multiple Blessings. A deal with Kmart for their holiday campaign that only
required three-days of work paid $158,000 plus up to $5,000 for a security team
of Kate’s choosing. There was also a $25,000 Proctor and Gamble deal.
10. A Family Under (Discovery's) Control
Discovery maintained a frightening amount of control over the family contractually, including where they would travel, what they wore and even how they styled their hair. Discovery also had several provisions limiting their liability and obligations to the family. They specifically prohibited the Gosselins from subjecting their contracts to union rules such as SAG. [Admin note: Huge red flag they were taking advantage of the family and actively trying to circumvent any built in protections in the entertainment industry’s unions.] The contract also included a provision that the Gosselins would “guarantee” the children’s “performance” and “obligations.” Discovery released themselves of all responsibility in the event of an accident or even death. They also had a provision excluding them from any worker’s compensation claims. Any personal photos and video the family took in the course of the show was the property of Discovery. Discovery could terminate the contract at any time for any reason without owing the Gosselins a cent. It was the Gosselin’s obligation to secure any necessary work permits and travel documents. They also wrote in the right to sue should any member of the family breach any of their obligations. In other words, Discovery could bail on the family at any time without consequence, but there would be hell to pay if any member of the family ever tried the same thing (and as we all saw, there was).
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''I too, think it is odd not to have heard from Robert in almost a week. The police may not be involved but I do think it is possible that Robert has heard from either TLC's lawyers or Kates. Could be a lawsuit coming.''
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Oh look! Another one to ignore, ignore, ignore!
Dwindle--so sorry to hear about your loss.
PJs Momma--Glad you popped in--hope your back!
Yeah, the 'Xmas wrap' Robert discussed really shocked me. The TLC 'Xmas' had festive packages, and now they are without a show, they have to use newsprint? I wonder what other ways they are shown what the show ending cost them? Blaming the kids. And taking the fun of believing in Santa away from them.
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Why doesn't she go to the Dollar Tree? The Christmas wrapping rolls are BIG rolls, and they sell the extra wide for large packages. After Christmas they are fifty cents a roll. She could buy 20 super huge rolls for ten dollars and put them away for the next year.
Going back a ways in posts, Berks Resident and Tuckers Mommy, brought up great points re Follow The Money! the value to the state of Pennsylvania of the free advertising they got via the show being filmed there. The value to the town of any income from filming via permits, etc, whatever they have regs on. The value from the crew paying for local housing, meals, etc. Profit off babies and toddlers. Profit from continued filming. Profit froma child abuser not being outed.
Anyone notice that Kate's blot isn't advertised on CCs front page? Her Komen thingy is there but it doesn't take you to her blog. You have to go to the top right corner, click on blogs, then Kate Gosselin. Or am I missing it?
Dwindle,
I have been away for the holiday weekend but want to let you know how very sorry I am for your loss! My dog, PD, is 11 and every day is special. Your sweet Buffy is waiting for you and I'm sure she's with my Sophie at the Bridge.
Hugs to you dwindle!!
Localyocul said... 5
Anyone notice that Kate's blot isn't advertised on CCs front page? Her Komen thingy is there but it doesn't take you to her blog. You have to go to the top right corner, click on blogs, then Kate Gosselin. Or am I missing it?
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I thought CC pulled Kate's "blogs" until this new Halloween blog today (what a plethora of helpful information!!). You have to click on Kate's icon for running, then find her blog under "Kate Gosselin".
She just tweeted links to CC over the past week or so and I thought they'd stopped her nonsense missives.
Apparently, they don't care how foolish it looks to have a millionaire grifter give savings "advice".
I'm really not over how they, Jon and Kate, didn't want to lie to their little kids so they did not believe in Santa Claus. It's hard to make sense out of anything Gosselin. Kate hasn't had a problem with "mistruths" so I just don't get the no Santa Claus. I agree that if it doesn't matter to Kate, no money will be spent. It's beyond tightwad mentality. It's selfish to the max! Jon does not get a pass on any of this. What was he thinking?
I, too, wish that term "littles" would just stop. Sounds demeaning and really dumb.
160 bucks for 8 kids once a year is not an insanely unnecessary cost. Especially for a millionaire. Cut out Starbucks, manipedis, and hair frying for one month and easily that's well more than 160.
It's not the kids' fault there are 8 of them. She is an unbelievably selfish, selfish mother.
Admin #152, I'm just weighing in on the Halloween issue and trick or treating. My grandsons are out in the country and the few homes/farms nearby are far apart. My DD and SIL drive the boys to the houses on the country road they live on. They they drive them to the great-grandparents home about 35 minutes away. They live in a sweet little neighborhood and the boys go trick or treating there.
Hi all, long time lurker. First time poster. I just read her CC blog - and I feel all of us can do a better job than she can in terms of how to save money for halloween. How about clipping coupons ($1 off 2 bags of Hershey's candy, for example)? How about shopping at thrift stores like Salvation Army and Goodwill for Halloween? My kids get great costumes from these stores. She is not in touch with the "mediocre" people. Why write a Halloween blog when you claim that you just aren't into Halloween? She is just not relatable.
I really don't think it's a matter of money for Kate. I think she is perhaps 'punishing' the kids by saying now that the show is over they have to cut back- thus the no-frills for the kids (except of course private school tuition) Or maybe she just doesn't care to do the fun things of childhood with them- like the 'pretend play' on the show as mentioned in The Book . Too lazy, doesn't truly value them, she's in charge thing, idk. The house is not
kid-friendly. They have the playroom where she throws all their toys out on the floor to clean up, their bedrooms she trashes or keeps them prisoner in, and usually just dumps them into the POOL regardless of the weather.
Her excuse for why the tups didn't go last year is pathetic, illogical and selfish. H
Her excuse why they didn't go trick or treating last year is pathetic and selfish. Not to mention illogical. If some storm that had already melted stopped the tups, why wouldn't it stop the twins too? Crazy pants.
Sketchy Gosselin said... 11
Hi all, long time lurker. First time poster
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Welcome! The Sunday paper was chock-a-block full of candy coupons this week. We usually buy a huge bag or two at Costco, but right after Halloween, Christmas, Easter, the name brand candy goes on sale at all the supermarkets and that's when I use my coupons, if I'm using them at all.
Hate when they have that candy at 50% off right inside the grocery door!
@4 Joy:
Places filmed in PA:
Chocolate World
Sesame Place
Hands On House
Young Chef's Academy
Dutch Wonderland
Please Touch Museum
Crayola
Pittsburgh Zoo
Shady Maple
The Castle
Sight and Sound
Strasburg Railroad
There may have been some I'm missing, but it's hardly enough to support PA in terms of advertising revenue. PA got to be too mediocre after awhile...they were on to bigger and better things.
Are you saying that CPS covered up and/or didn't investigate child abuse claims because to expose them would result in the state not profiting from filming?
There was no income from permits, thus the whole child labor laws/work permits fiasco. There should have been permits, but this was conveniently overlooked. PA slipped up on this, big time, and then, for whatever reason, decided not to assess any penalties.
Kate is the ultimate cheap-skate! I have lived on a tight budget all of my life, but my kids always had costumes and candy at Halloween. I was reared by my grandmother and she, too, was on a tight budget. We had costumes (homemade) and plenty of candy to pass out to our friends. CouponCabin needs to break her contract, or plate which ever fits the example. The woman is a human contradiction to put it mildly. Who would ever take advise from her? Something is so wrong with the whole Gosselin saga.
Kates tweets are turning into strictly product endorsements......must be the companys she "does work for".....
Jo said... 118
Do you remember in the RV episode when Jamie was offering Ashely a hundred dollars to soak Kate with the water gun? One of the children that was in the raft warned that Kate wouldn't let them have dinner if they got her wet. Man the seriousness on her little face and her holding her finger upward like you do when you really mean "you better not do that!"
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Interesting. I was rewatching the Utah episode the other day and Beth babysat while J and K went to dinner. M wanted to take her dinner at the counter where she was on the computer and Beth said no, your mother said if you did not come to the table to send you to bed without it. Then M did something to a tup, Beth told her to be nice and M replies "I will NOT be nice to her she's not a baby anymore." Beth said "Holy moly are you for real?" I just wonder what C and M's day to day social skill are like with the chaos, lack of correction for hitting/talking like that, and from what I've seen of their interaction with Clay.
Tuckers Mom said... 15
Your post about the candy coupons was a good one. Any good coupon blogger would know that coupons come out near the holiday for the consumer to use now.
This got me to thinking. Does Kate even read the newspaper? I talking about hard core news (current events, politics, etc.). In all her tweets and even in Robert's book (her journal) she doesn't mention a single a newspaper article, unless its about herself. No matter who busy I am as a Mom, employed full-time, etc. I always read the newspaper. Not just for the information but to be able to have a conversation should topic come up during the day. When she was on the View as a guest host, she did not jump in with anything to add to the discussion. IMO she had no knowledge base to draw upon, thus nothing to contribute to the conversation.
So say she doesn't read the paper, that would mean she wouldn't necessarily know about the coupons available in the newspaper. Which I now circle back to how can she be a coupon blogger and not know about these coupons?
I agree, Admin, that Kate is a "selfish, selfish mother. If it isn't about her or for her or benefitting her she just doesn't want to spend the money or the time. She is the "stah" don't you know? Someone is still pumping her ego up to the moon. It's ugly, just ugly.
"How about shopping at thrift stores like Salvation Army and Goodwill for Halloween? My kids get great costumes from these stores"
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How about eBay? We got some great deals on costumes that were in perfect condition, worn only a few hours, for one dollar (retail price for one gorgeous Cinderella ballgown was $75.00. Price sticker was on the inside tag).
Or...what about costume rental from the local community theater or college? Some even will put them out on loan for free. You can get really great complete costumes, hats, wigs, shoes, swords, for as little as two dollars per costume.
I always thought that the most fun with costumes was making up your own. I remember when I was in school, my friend and I decided to go to a party at the last minute and we needed a quick costume. Her father had super large barrels in the garage. He affixed suspender straps on them and we went in barrels. Of course, going to the bathroom was a challenge!
Ooooh, butterfly and Sweet Tart, our church does Trunk or Treat, too! I love decorating the inside of the trunk with the lights and pumpkins, and tape recorder with spooky sounds. I think the adults setting it up have as much fun as the kids going from car to car!
On the Time to Organize episode they had, according to Kate, 'boxes and boxes' of costumes. They weren't el cheapo costumes either. You can bet she got them from some company. So now that she can't send out her form letter for product placement grifting, all of a sudden these things are unnecessarily and insanely expensive. Gotcha, Kate... If it's not handed to YOU on a golden platter, the kids platter is empty.
I also noticed she had a box full of Jon's things that he'd left behind. I wonder if the discs that RH found were in there. Bet she tossed them in the trash the way she did the kids' stuffed toys. Funny I never saw her toss anything of HERS out. Hoarder. And her basement shelves are FULL of free shit. Detergent, cleaning products, the whole ball of wax. I don't think she used coupons to get that stuff either.
Watching that episode now, in hindsight, is quite revealing.
Thanks for the Coupon Cabin reprint. I don't go there.
That post is not advice about saving money. It is advice on how to be mean-spirited and make your children feel like dead weight burdens.
I truly hope she is in New York yucking it up with her "friends" and that the children have an uproarious time with Jon and friends.
How to save money on Halloween celebrations -- let your ex have time with the kids!
The twitpic of the three little girls 'baking'(no signs of ingredients) is online on Babble with a sappy article about the twins turning12 and Kate being all emotional.
Just Down the Road, whether a state in actuality nets that much profit from filming, believe me states feel that filming, any kind of filming in their state is a tremendous benefit and that they should do whatever they can to encourage it. It goes beyond the actual dollar. If PA becomes known as a state the blows the whistle on any child labor infractions or other issues, in theory, productions won't want to risk filming there. It may not be morally right, but it's in a state's best interest to be as accommodating as possible to production companies to encourage other production companies to come too. It eventuality adds up. It's also hard to pin point "good will." Look at how popular New Zealand has been since Lord of the Rings. We know it's popular but no one can say for sure how many more tourists have come there because of that. Jon and Kate is no Lord of the Rings but make no mistake states LOVE good will, any kind of good will.
California is not a "friendly" state to productions because they've cracked down all across the board, which is why so many productions are going out of state or out of the country these days. It's a big problem. Try to do right by cast and crew and productions flee.
This was even touched on in the radio show that Aunt Jodi did, there was no incentive for PA to crack down on TLC in any form.
We should write our own Halloween savings blog with all your great ideas.
Another idea is to do a costume exchange with family and friends. Have a get together, everyone brings old costumes used prior years, and kids get to pick through them and choose which ones to borrow for that year. There are also many creative ways to find simple things around the house and turn them into a costume with a few tweaks. A pirate costume needs only an eye patch, almost everything else can be crafted from things you already have.
Kate, even if you don't have money, which you know damn well you have PLENTY of, there are ten different ways to give kids a wonderful Halloween without shafting them. Suck it. You and your Starbucks can just suck it.
Another tip is to watch for coupons for "new" candy. There are often big coupons for new kinds of candy to try to create buzz and get them selling.
Every year there is usually some new kind of version of candy out. For instance Snickers has some new peanut butter version this year. I saw a big coupon for it, and the store was also running a discount, so I could have grabbed a bag of that for about a buck after all was said and done.
When we moved into our home many years ago we decorated, bought candy and turned the lights on to wait for the little trick or treaters. NOTHING! It turns out because we live on a busy street no one trick or treats here. However when my daughters were old enough to go out we went with my friend and her daughters. She lived in a big neighborhood. We would go trick or treating and then back to the house for cider and donuts and to check out the loot they got. Her husband being a police officer always insisted on checking it to make sure it was safe. Actually, I think he was checking to see what he might be able to talk them into giving him. LOL. I never bought costumes. I always made them. They went as a bee, a table, the mermaid, Belle, Jasmine etc. All homemade. The girls are grown but they still have me make their costumes. My oldest daughter's fiance asked me to help with his this year. I love doing it and we have many fond memories of those happy times. Growing up I wasn't into Halloween myself but my girls were so I tried to always make it special for them, because after all isn't it what makes your children happy that counts. That is what makes lasting memories.
She said 8 costumes are an 'insanely unnecessary cost' ???
OMG- tanning is 'insanely unnecessary'
Halloween is once a year. I wonder how she feels about christmas? Only 1 gift per kid cuz anything more would be an 'insanely unnecessary cost'
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I can't get over this. I think all these trips to NYC are insanely unnecessary.
She doesn't get it. She doesn't. There are so many benefits to Halloween. Or if you don't like Halloween, substitute just any kind of event or holiday where kids have fun. She wants to just write off these opportunities for kids to be kids to save money, she has no CLUE what kids need and where you should actually be spending money.
I can't imagine Khate reading a newspaper, and we know she doesn't cut coupons, so where would she get newsprint?
Hi Just Down The Road! Admin stated my point I was alluding to. A few years back, Elliott Yamin from Richmond was third place runner up on American Idol. The to three get hometown visits and coverage by the local Fox stations AND three hometown visits are featured on AI. The community was behind Elliott, and turned out for huge gatherings that the city mayor, the state tourism board, and the Governors office made happen in less than one week. The tourism head was quoted that the few minutes of coverage on Idol was worth MILLIONS, and gave the positive good will that money cannot buy.
For Elliott, what happened was a welcome really from the mayor at a plaza downtown with thousands attending, and special ” Virginia its for Simon lovers” signs, a private meet and greet at the governors mansion, a parade, and throwing out the first pitch at a ball game, in addition to visits to TV stations, radio stations, and the pharmacy he worked at before going on Idol. Hundreds of people worked very hard to pull it together, because they wanted Virginia highlighted on the show.
In Pennsylvania, imagine you are called to investigate aCPS complaint at the orphanage, faced with Ms Kreider and her minions and her that's of lawsuits. You see kids with food, clothing, beds, and no bleeding or broken bones. Are you going to seriously do any kind of intervention? Seriously? you betcha the celebrity factor is going to make you tread very carefully on this one. I think the fact the family was filmed DID influence any investigation or action decided on.
Maybe Kate hates halloween 'cuz she'd have to put out actual effort to grift free candy...(it's easier to grift on twitter and pick it up at the UPS store)
*snark*
--I agree with those that say quit calling the 6 'littles'. They are EIGHT for goodness sake!!!
Kate isn't crafty, for sure. I guess I was and wasn't surprised that Kate had projects fed to her for her appearance on Rachael Ray's show. The baggie ice cream and boat race were passionless and even back then, I wasn't buying the boat race thing (make the boat, put in water, blow on it...). It didn't look natural.
I even wonder if the really cute Valentine's Day treasure hunt was real. Knowing what we know, I just am not buying that Kate orchestrated it all on her own.
Tamara said... 32
I can't imagine Khate reading a newspaper, and we know she doesn't cut coupons, so where would she get newsprint?
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If you are referring to the christmas paper wrapping, Kate used newspaper END ROLLS, which are blank.
I think Jon said at one time Kate doesn't read the paper or keep up with current events.
I still take the daily paper, there's just something about reading an ACTUAL paper. (I am older, too, my kids get all their world news exclusively from the internet).
Amy, great minds and all :)
Berks Resident #82, Thank you for your answer and input. Most of the time I think it's good people are what, who when it comes to Kate. When it comes to child abuse I wish she were front page news with factual info, not ROL bs.
It's not newsprint....it's worse 200.
My cousin used to wrap presents (for adults) in the Sunday comics as her way of recycling - it became her trademark.
A friend who is quite artistic, uses brown paper that she decorates with things appropriate to the occasion; it's always charming.
Another friend and I have been trading the same gift bag back and for for several years. It's a private joke.
Kate, in her house with it's own gift wrapping station, uses newspaper endrolls? Can't even spring for gift bags at the dollar store? Nothing but the best for Katie; nothing for the kids. Killjoy.
Kate, it's not about STUFF. It's about thoughtfulness and love.
Tamara said... 32
I can't imagine Khate reading a newspaper, and we know she doesn't cut coupons, so where would she get newsprint?
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These are the leftover ends of newsprint paper that's blank and very thin. Some papers give it away to schools or charge a minimal amount. Knowing Kate, she probably put on her good bra and Daisy Duke's and flashed those pearly whites and got it for free.
aggie said:
I think Jon said at one time Kate doesn't read the paper or keep up with current events.
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I remember that. Obviously she does not if she thinks the 9/11 tragedy involved 'bombs or something.' She does just not think anything in the world that happens is as important as herself. She really is a megalomaniac.
Coupon Cabin should have handed the assignment to someone that actually celebrates (and enjoys) Halloween.
LaLaLandNoMore- My grandchildren and their parents are evangelical Christians and they don't believe in Santa on religious grounds.((I'm not one, and I do!)They also don't celebrate the "Pagan" festival of Halloween. Otherwise they are healthy, normal kids...I think Jon and Kate were saying it for this reason, but didn't have the sensitivity or social skills to tell the children not to discuss it at school because they might hurt other kids' feelings or upset them.
In Pennsylvania, imagine you are called to investigate aCPS complaint at the orphanage, faced with Ms Kreider and her minions and her that's of lawsuits. You see kids with food, clothing, beds, and no bleeding or broken bones. Are you going to seriously do any kind of intervention? Seriously? you betcha the celebrity factor is going to make you tread very carefully on this one. I think the fact the family was filmed DID influence any investigation or action decided on.
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I disagree that this was swept under the rug because the family was being filmed. Investigations are taken seriously. I worked with social services for many years, and no celebrity, high-profile person, politician, well-known CEO gets a pass with something as serious as this. I've seen it first-hand. The problem is that the state's laws need to be changed and I understand that this is now being handled by a task force. An investigator can only do what is permitted under the law. We don't know what was done in the case of the Gosselins because reports are confidential.
My son wanted to be Shel Silverstein's book "The Giving Tree" for one Halloween.
He collected a tub full of green leaves from our back yard and glued them all over the surface of a brown paper bag, which we slipped over his head. (With holes for his eyes and arms.) He shuffled because we wrapped brown fabric around his legs for the tree trunk.
He opted to stay home and give candy to trick or treat visitors -- because that is what a GIVING tree would do.
The memories of a costume soaked with the smell of Elmer's glue can still make me smile.
I want to shake Kate. She has no idea what she is missing. Her priorities are making her life worthless. With Jon, hopefully the kids have a chance. For Kate, there seems to be none.
Kate said they didn't celebrate Halloween, but the kids have been trick or treating. She took them to Steve's neighborhood to trick or treat in the past (think he lives 3 hours from her?) That sounds fun. (not)
Part of the fun of trick or treating is the kids seeing their friends and what they are dressed in. Kate's kids go to Maryland.
Let's throw tomatoes,
You've done it once again. Make some know-it-all statement (kids tell teachers everything) and THEN when you are called on your BS, you back peddle furiously and say "that isn't what I said". Even though it is clear what you said the first time around. THEN you accuse others of "picking on you" and make a big scene.
It is tiresome and that is why I don't normally read your posts. Besides your horrible grammar and spelling.
I can't imagine Khate reading a newspaper, and we know she doesn't cut coupons, so where would she get newsprint?
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All you need to do is to stop in at a local newspaper office and ask. It's not newsprint. It's the end of the rolls, or large flat sheets of plain white newspaper that are rolled up and bundled.
Formerly Duped said... 41
aggie said:
I think Jon said at one time Kate doesn't read the paper or keep up with current events.
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I remember that. Obviously she does not if she thinks the 9/11 tragedy involved 'bombs or something.' She does just not think anything in the world that happens is as important as herself. She really is a megalomaniac.
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I know. Monkeys living in a jungle are more civilized that Kate.
Her flippant 9/11 journal entry made my blood boil.
It's amazing to me that Kate has not been hit by a huge lightning bolt.
Admin I just took a closer look at your current avatar. Zing.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 9
160 bucks for 8 kids once a year is not an insanely unnecessary cost. Especially for a millionaire. Cut out Starbucks, manipedis, and hair frying for one month and easily that's well more than 160.
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Don't you know what Kate could spend $160.00 on?
Gas up the Audi.
GO to Starbucks.
Get her nails and feet done.
Get a tan.
Buy some gum.
So you now see why she can't spend $160 on the kids.
She has to have thees thing for herself.
So why are so many of you Khate bloggers going to her sites, eg, Coupon Cabin, Kate Plus My 8, etc., and giving the company or Kate hits for their advertisers?
I think it would be better to have just a few designated that bring that information back here.
"Besides your horrible grammar and spelling."
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Sentence fragment.
"back peddle"
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"backpedal" is the correct spelling.
If you are going to call someone out on horrible grammar and spelling, at least make sure your posts are perfect.
Who thinks we will now get a twitpic of the twins wonderfully wrapped gifts, which Khate spent 65328 hours wrapping and masterminding? And the kids said it was the best paper they've ever seen and are sooooo jealous!! They gave it a 20 on a scale of 10
Anonymous said... 52
So why are so many of you Khate bloggers going to her sites, eg, Coupon Cabin, Kate Plus My 8, etc., and giving the company or Kate hits for their advertisers?
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I did that, thanks for asking! I don't go to Kate's site.
(Did I read somewhere in the book that CC only signed Kate to generate publicity for their website?)
LaLaLandNoMore said... 8
I'm really not over how they, Jon and Kate, didn't want to lie to their little kids so they did not believe in Santa Claus. It's hard to make sense out of anything Gosselin. Kate hasn't had a problem with "mistruths" so I just don't get the no Santa Claus.
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I'm sure it was Kate's "idea" that the children be told there was no Santa Claus. For some reason, Kate has a real desire to take the fun out of her children's lives, and she's been that way from the start. I'm sure we all remember how we would see over and again on the show, when the children began to have fun, she'd be sure to put a stop to it. Going for ice cream for dinner (a show idea, not something they'd ever do normally), the children began playing on the grass nearby until Kate shrieked at them to stop.
Dress up night - another contrived show idea. Kate was bored and wanted to cut it short.
One of the most painful ones I recall - sextuplets' birthday where they made their own cupcakes. Kate takes the boys' cupcakes away, won't let them have them ON THEIR OWN BIRTHDAY.
This woman gets her kicks by causing pain to her own children. Physical pain and mental pain. So that's why she took great pains to be sure they didn't get to have the little children's joy and pleasure in believing in Santa Claus. Horrid, horrid woman.
BTW any Discovery execs still reading this blog? See, this is what you associate with, and this is what I associate with Discovery now. But what do you care, since you earned so much money off those children's misery, right?
Tamara said... 54
Who thinks we will now get a twitpic of the twins wonderfully wrapped gifts, which Khate spent 65328 hours wrapping and masterminding? And the kids said it was the best paper they've ever seen and are sooooo jealous!! They gave it a 20 on a scale of 10
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thanks for the laugh!! lol *snicker*
Anonymous said... 52
So why are so many of you Khate bloggers going to her sites, eg, Coupon Cabin, Kate Plus My 8, etc., and giving the company or Kate hits for their advertisers?
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A few brave ones take the plunge, go check out the latest and report back to the rest. I sure appreciate their efforts, as I don't chose to go to Kate's blog, or CC's blog, etc.
Let me turn the question around - why do you Anonymous posters come here and post and bitch at us? After all, you're driving up the hits to this site every time you do so. I only ask, since you seem so concerned about such things.
What does "dance cooking" mean?
Sweet Tart said... 58
Anonymous said... 52
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A few brave ones take the plunge, go check out the latest and report back to the rest. I sure appreciate their efforts, as I don't chose to go to Kate's blog, or CC's blog, etc
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Ok, Sweet Tart! I went to CC and pasted her halloween blog here. You owe me a Target gift card!! Everyone that read it can send me Halloween candy! I will pick it up at the UPS store in one of my 3 cars, of course parking in a fire lane. NO LIE
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I still have a newspaper End Roll leftover from when we moved 10 yrs. ago. Would never, ever dream of wrapping someone's gift in that paper.
Thanks for the shout-out, IDMODO. I realize that Religious reasons could explain not celebrating Santa Claus/Halloween. In my own history, our church sponsored years of Halloween Parties and Santa Claus visited our Sunday School parties each year. So much fun and happy memories.
We just might never really understand about the Gosselin fiasco. Too many contradictions for my taste.
@Gimme 47:
Because you are complaining about the grammar of others, correct this sentence: "Make some know-it-all statement (kids tell teachers everything) and THEN when you are called on your BS, you back peddle furiously and say "that isn't what I said". Even though it is clear what you said the first time around."
It should be "...you backpedal furiously and say, "that isn't what I said," even though it is clear..."
My sister works with Easter Seals and every year around Christmas they have a "store" of all the crafts they have made.
My sister taught the kids to take that newsprint, paint it with glue (or flour and water), place another over that, paint that with glue (and repeat depending how thick you want you it to be) and let it dry overnight and it turns into a nice thin manageable cardboard that they cut into designs, paint, with sayings, etc., like a kid looking out the back window of a bus or MOM or DAD or a book with a worm on it called book worm. They put magnets on the back for the fridge. I still have the bus magnet and bookworm that I bought at the store years ago when I was able to be there to help put the store together. They also make picture frames, book marks from them, all sorts of things. They are very cute and crafty.
I have to shamefully own my sentence fragment. I noticed it after I hit publish.
But I will have to blame "back peddle" on autocorrect!
Thanks for the shout-out, IDMODO. I realize that Religious reasons could explain not celebrating Santa Claus/Halloween. In my own history, our church sponsored years of Halloween Parties and Santa Claus visited our Sunday School parties each year. So much fun and happy memories.
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I was raised in an evangelical church similar to the one Kate attended. We had Halloween parties and hayrides, and Santa came to our Sunday School class and handed out oranges and candy. I seriously doubt that Kate's religious beliefs are affecting her disapproval of Halloween or Christmas, but who knows what goes on in that mind of hers!
Aggiesmom - I have a bag of candy which I placed in my freezer a couple of years ago - one of Kate's handy tips gave me the idea! I shall place it at the end of my gated driveway and you may pick it up between the hours of 3:00 and 4:30ish - when I'm not at home as it causes me annoyance to have to make polite small talk!
/end of channeling Kate. :)
"{....I am not big on Halloween..."
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Hmmm...last Halloween,Kate was quite happy to head to New York and appear as a Zombie on the View. What she really means is that she's not big on her kids' celebrating Halloween...Katie Killjoy.
I can't wait for Kate to be on the 'Watch What Happens Show' with Andy Cohen. She's not going to know what hit her. In case anyone isn't familiar with the premise, Andy has callers and tweeters asking his guests questions. I don't think they are screened before hand either because he always asks for their name and from where they are calling. He also plays the "Plead the Fifth" game. She may be in for a rough ride and I've got a first row seat (in front of my TV). I can't wait!
By George AMD 67, I think you've called it. Katie Killjoy - KK.
EVERY time we've ever seen those kids start to have fun, she positively freaks and puts a stop to it.
My ugly jack-o-lantern avatar is in honor of her behavior during the pumpkin carving scene.
Haven't been able to sign in lately. DK why.
Hmmm...last Halloween,Kate was quite happy to head to New York and appear as a Zombie on the View. What she really means is that she's not big on her kids' celebrating Halloween...Katie Killjoy.
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Didn't she dress up one year to go trick or treating with them and she fell asleep in the van?
Localyocul said... 59
What does "dance cooking" mean?
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Who knows what Kate ever means? I figured it to mean she and kids were dancing around the kitchen while cooking. That sounds so F.U.N.!!!!!!!!!!
Does anyone else rememember Kate laughing about C & M going to school and telling their classmates the truth about Santa? We believed at our house long after we all knew. It is just so much fun! "Killjoy" is such a great description. It's really sad and Kate has been so rewarded for being such an unlikeable/unrelateable person. Would we have ever heard of the Gosselins if she had not masterminded multiples?
Sherry Baby said... 70
Hmmm...last Halloween,Kate was quite happy to head to New York and appear as a Zombie on the View. What she really means is that she's not big on her kids' celebrating Halloween...Katie Killjoy.
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Didn't she dress up one year to go trick or treating with them and she fell asleep in the van?
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Kate was on K+8 and she dressed up as a she-devil.
EVERY time we've ever seen those kids start to have fun, she positively freaks and puts a stop to it.
That's EXACTLY how my situation is. As soon as the child starts to have even a hint of fun, the mother has to put a stop to that, RIGHT NOW!!!!
There will be NO having fun. At any time. Ever.
It took me a long time to catch on to the dynamic.
I mean, who would think the mom doesn't want the kid to have a good time?
The child is a little older now and starting to catch on. She carefully keeps no expression on her face if the mom is around. But she's a hoot when we're alone. Bless her little heart.
BRAVO SWEET TART...58
Kate takes the boys' cupcakes away, won't let them have them ON THEIR OWN BIRTHDAY.
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Jon didn't let them either. I was actually surprised at how mean he was when I went back and watched that episode. There should be a recap of the JK shows now that the book is out. A little compare and contrast study.
I really think CC is just biding their time until they can be done with Kate. CC stopped tweeting about Kate's blog several months ago.
Although there was a post on their website about Kate's running and raising funds for Breast Cancer awareness(via a contest), they haven't done any other promotion about it. I checked CC's FB page, and there's no mention of it there either.
The tweets Kate makes about product deals(like the Zicam one this morning) is probably due to CC requiring her to in order to fulfill what's left of her contract.
allhail_ld
@Allisstair @kateplusmy8 If It was true abuse she would of been arrested since it was on TV.
Doesn't this kind of ignorance just make you want to bang your head on the wall after you've pulled out your hair?
Kate was on K+8 and she dressed up as a she-devil.
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You mean she went as herself?
Anonymous this time said... 74
EVERY time we've ever seen those kids start to have fun, she positively freaks and puts a stop to it.
That's EXACTLY how my situation is. As soon as the child starts to have even a hint of fun, the mother has to put a stop to that, RIGHT NOW!!!!
There will be NO having fun. At any time. Ever.
It took me a long time to catch on to the dynamic.
I mean, who would think the mom doesn't want the kid to have a good time?
The child is a little older now and starting to catch on. She carefully keeps no expression on her face if the mom is around. But she's a hoot when we're alone. Bless her little heart.
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that's def a sign of emotional abuse.
I had a boyfriend who was an abuser (first emotional, then it became physical at the end) and whenever I enjoyed myself, he would become irate. God forbid I was having a good time. I found out later that that behavior is typical of emotional abusers. They keep control that way.
Most parents go out of their way to make sure their kids are having fun, and get great pleasure out their smiles and laughter. Most parents.
Aggiemom, I was going to add that Khate would tweet from bed for the next 3 days, bravely recovering from the papercut she got while doing her mastermind wrapping, saying the only illness that has ever been worse was her 6778 months on bedrest, but it seemed OTT. ;)
Happy Bday to 2 of the most wonderful ppl ever born! I'm so thankful I was blessed w/ Cara&Mady!They are(2 of the) best parts of my life! XO
Way to exclude their father. What would have been wrong with saying "so thankful we were blessed...." and "the best parts of our lives!"
localyocul....19
I was struck by that scene too, the one where Mady and Cara were using the laptops in the kitchen in Utah. They looked quite familiar around the computers, and that was 2008!
I find it almost impossible to believe these two aren't Googling their mother every chance they get. Kate cannot possibly keep them insulated from what is being said about Kate, the book, everything.
Sherry Baby said... 70
Hmmm...last Halloween,Kate was quite happy to head to New York and appear as a Zombie on the View. What she really means is that she's not big on her kids' celebrating Halloween...Katie Killjoy.
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Didn't she dress up one year to go trick or treating with them and she fell asleep in the van?
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You are correct! I had forgotten about that.
Kate's only tradition is ruining her kid's holidays.
KK, Katie Killjoy, lol.
BTW,
Amy and Matt Roloff have another special on TLC. I think it's 6 episodes and doesnt appear to focus on the kids, only Amy and Matt's latest business venture.
See that Kate? Matt and Amy continue to get shows on TLC, and you? Cobwebs and crickets- HAHAHAHAHA!
njay,
Best of luck - my hat is off to you. That is really a tough job and I admire you for doing it.
If "Dance cooking" is any resemblance to Kate's DWTS dancing, I hope they ordered take out for dinner.
Here's another, thing to add to Halloween: instead of giving out candy, they sell at Target for $3 a bag of 300: spider rings, skeltons, spiders, etc. dollar store carrys some of this stuff too. The Dollar store has pretty good Halloween decorations, also fall and Xmas, even Easter(when that time comes), the Dollar store actually cover all the holidays. Targets $1 to $2.50 stuff, when come in the store. They have some really nice stuff for cheap. Kate never mentions these stores for Fall decorating or that you can re-use your fall decorations next year. Fake vs real pumpkin, fake leaves vs real etc. This woman is LAZY, if the non-exist hire help, does not decorate, Kate comes up with some lameo excuse. For a person who is home all day. Unreal.
I'm home all day, spend some time here, some time looking for a job(online), spend a lot of time cleaning(that seems to be never ending)I own a 6 room home, with full basement and yard & garage. In 3 weeks, I will be packing the yard up. My kids are my pets. I've been cleaning the Living rm & Tv rm(corner to corner), too much dog hair, then will shampoo rug. I've got to finish painting 2 small rooms. I also volunteer at the greenhouse. I probably do more in one day than Kate does in a week.
I can't wait for Kate to be on the 'Watch What Happens Show' with Andy Cohen. She's not going to know what hit her. In case anyone isn't familiar with the premise, Andy has callers and tweeters asking his guests questions. I don't think they are screened before hand either because he always asks for their name and from where they are calling. He also plays the "Plead the Fifth" game. She may be in for a rough ride and I've got a first row seat (in front of my TV). I can't wait!
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Someone upthread (can't find it), said Andy Cohen has tweeted he will be at a function with Jane Fonda, which ends exactly at the time his show is supposed to start....if his show is live, don't see how he could be transported from one site to another that quickly.
If Kate thinks she can return to the christian circuit, her appearing on WWHL puts an end to that.
ANOTHER Roloff s
I think all this worry about a Halloween celebration will be a moot point. Jon will probably have the kids. He can get them costumes and candy to give out.
I'm going to try and stay up and watch WWHL tonight and see how this tweeting works. Hehehe
ANOTHER roloff special? Hahahhaha.
aggiemom, for Halloween I do the same things. Get the little spider rings, stickers, etc., at the dollar store. I make up the little Halloween bags with a ring, a couple stickers, and a few pieces of candy. I always get a few boxes of the Gerber fuit chew candy packs for the older babies and kids 1-2 years old. The parents are so happy to see the youngest ones get the Gerber treats instead of candy that they can't eat.
The new Roloff show is supposed to be about having weddings on their farm.
My aunt turned fundie after having children and wouldn't let her children believe in Santa Claus. When they were little, she wouldn't let them celebrate Halloween. They did go to the fall festival at their Christian school. But I agree Kate is not doing it for religious reasons. She's just cheap and antisocial. Even my mother, who was never social, took me trick or treating with her sister who had a child close to my age. I have alot of fun memories of that. I bet Kate will play up Halloween at the marathon though if it's all about her.
Gimme a break .....said 47
Thank you for reading my comment, but kids tell what goes on at home! Sorry, it is what it is! Try not to expose them to things that you might not want your child to tell the teacher or other people.
Also, you might want to work on your writing skills!
May I also recommend an Anger Management class!!
Oh, I forgot, I agree, I agree , and I agree!
( Let's Throw Tomatoes)
I don't think all abused kids tell their teachers what's going on at home...it goes with being abused, they are scared to say anything.
Also, abused kids at least KNOW what's going on at home, if they are removed from the home that's an uncertainty (where will I live? who will take care of me? will I have to change schools? will I see my other relatives? will I see my friends again?)..
Some abused kids that find the courage to speak out, I applaud them. But I bet most don't say a word. It takes a lot of courage to speak out.
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Okay, now I don't want to get anyone into an uproar, but if you really research the beginnings of Halloween, it is not a "pagan" holiday or one to worship the devil. It started based on Christian celebrations. Look it up on line and it's really rather interesting. Anyhow, just my 2 cents worth.
Dance cooking the birthday meal together..The motto is 'the birthday girls want what the birthday girls want!' according2the bday girls!:) about 2 hours ago
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dance cooking. idk about that one.
as for the twin's 'motto', it has shades of "you get what you get and you don't get upset."
I wonder if Jon got the girls for a few hours on their birthday, or did that change when custody was switched to 50/50?
We Catholcs celebrate Halloween with gusto. Catholic schools have Halloween parties and the next day is All Saints Day
the twins were told there was no Santa at home and they, at that time jealous of the status of the tups, told the tups, who in turn told their classmates. This was in pre-kindergarten if my memory is correct. If it isn't, too bad, whenever the twins were told and told the tups who told their friends, it was waaaay too early!
Aggiemom, the whole point of kids telling teachers everything is that young children say things that are personal and shouldn't say! Having said that, Child ABUSE is a whole different animal! I would think kids that are being abused would be afraid that if they tell anyone it would get worse for them.
My only two abuse cases never talked!
I discussed this last night and this morning but apparently only Gimmee a break reads my comments! Thanks, again Gimme!!
Let's throw tomatoes
aggiemom, I agree that all kids do not tell someone about the abuse at home, for a variety of reasons. In my case, my mother always told us that all parents did this, and you just believe your parents. On top of that, my mother rarely did it in front of other people, so when at someone else's home, you just thought the other parents didn't do it in front of others, either.
As I got older I knew it was wrong, but didn't say anything because of fear, retribution from my mother, embarassment, most of all, the fear of being removed from my home-the only life I had ever known. In my case, I thought that if my own mother, who supposed to love me, could do this, what would a stranger do who doesn't know me or love me? Yes, there is a lot of guilt that is bestowed on abused children to make them think that they caused the abuse.
However, once I got into my mid-teens, I knew the truth for myself. Instead of thinking how to get out, I stayed as long as I could to protect my 2 little sisters. I eventually left, though, and felt guilty for years about that until I received counselling.
Okay, I'm off my personal soap box now; sorry to all.
Out of the blue, one of the sheeple starts bashing Jon on Kate's twitter. Milo, then has to jump in and tweet her own 2 cents worth. If Milo really believes this, she definitely should read the book.
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 LOL....I thought the same! Best thing ever happened4Jon was knowing Kate..she brought stability2his life!
I'm sure Jon thanks Kate everyday for the "stability" she brought to his life--NOT!
Halloween, and all holidays it seems, are just an inconvenience to khate. They aren't all about her. They dont focus on her, nor center around her. SHe sure seems to Mother's Day though. hmmm
FYI Andy Cohen is asking for questions for tomorrows show so be ready tomorrow if you want to send questions for Wed
Andy Cohen (@BravoAndy) tweeted at 4:32 PM on Mon, Oct 08, 2012:
Working on tomorrow's show with New Girl star @IAmGreenfield (Schmidt!) & @AndrewTMcCarthy - shoot me your questions!
(https://twitter.com/BravoAndy/status/255405339393011712)
By the way, Let's Throw Tomatoes, I did not mean my above post to contradict you in any way. I was simply stating my own personal experiences and thoughts at the time. No offense intended.
Love My Grandsons, in no way is the celebration of Halloween based on anything Christian - it may not be devil worship but it certainly doesn't glorify God, either. History.com has a great explanation on it. Of course, how Halloween started and where it has ended up today are so far apart they don't even resemble one another.
Kate is a twit said... 106
Out of the blue, one of the sheeple starts bashing Jon on Kate's twitter. Milo, then has to jump in and tweet her own 2 cents worth. If Milo really believes this, she definitely should read the book.
miloandjack
@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 LOL....I thought the same! Best thing ever happened4Jon was knowing Kate..she brought stability2his life!
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WTF??? Milo is nuts. Where does he/she get this stuff? You could tweet khate is a serial killer, or the anti-christ and Milo would spin it positive somehow. I almost want to join twitter and tweet negative things about khate just to watch Milo in action. LOL
butterfly said... 107
Halloween, and all holidays it seems, are just an inconvenience to khate. They aren't all about her. They dont focus on her, nor center around her. SHe sure seems to Mother's Day though. hmmm
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Halloween #110, please don't misunderstand. I never said Halloween was to glorify God; my point was that is wasn't to worship the devil, either. I've read the various histories of it on line and they start with holidays that the Irish and English used to celebrate. It has definitely transformed far from those roots, but the original tradition was not negative or evil. That is the only point I was trying to make. Therefore, as a Christian, I never had a problem with my daughter, or my grandsons, participating in the fun of the holiday.
My sister hated giving credit to Santa for all the hard work she put in to getting Christmas ready. I can see Khate feeling the same way and intentionally spoiling it for the kids.
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@Allisstair @kateplusmy8 If It was true abuse she would of been arrested since it was on TV.
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They're so ignorant. The vast majority of child abuse cases that even manage to make it into court are prosecuted civilly--no jail time. A tiny fracture of those involve the criminal courts and jail time--usually only for the most heinous of sexual abuse cases.
This is like saying there's no way you could have been speeding unless you got a ticket. LOL.
Do non-hallo'ween, no Santa christians celebrate christmas based on the pagan date, or the real month Christ was born in?
Halloween said... 110
Love My Grandsons, in no way is the celebration of Halloween based on anything Christian - it may not be devil worship but it certainly doesn't glorify God, either. History.com has a great explanation on it. Of course, how Halloween started and where it has ended up today are so far apart they don't even resemble one another.
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I have to stand with lovemygrandsons on this one...I've always heard that halloween was once a religious celebration as well.
Lovemygrandsons...I have tried to respond to what you shared in your post #105. (I keep deleting).
I have no words.
I hope that the counseling helped, and you and your siblings are all in a good place now.
(even that doesn't convey what I want to say).
Churches in our area in upstate NY do trunk or treat and there are always harvest parties. Good grief Kate...it's always about you. A friend of mine likes to be green and save money so each year after Christmas she would buy yards and yards of clearance Christmas material from the fabric store. She would sew all kinds of bags in all different shapes and sizes and put pretty Christmas ribbon and make drawstring bags and would wrap all her presents in them. They were washable and reusable every year. She had bags for wine bottles and shirt boxes and even huge ones that could fit a bike. Very clever, green and a savings. There you go kreider! That's how it's done.
FYI Andy Cohen is asking for questions for tomorrows show so be ready tomorrow if you want to send questions for Wed.
Here, the show with Kate is on Thursday, not Wednesday.
This is like saying there's no way you could have been speeding unless you got a ticket. LOL.
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Then how do they claim Khate is always a legal driver?
I swear, some of those beyond ridiculous warnings you see with products these days must be there because of people like the sheeple.
Tamara #116 - I can only speak for myself. We have always celebrated Christmas, and of course, my daughter believed in Santa Clause. So do my grandsons at this point. Although we always explained to her/them the real reason we celebrate the holiday, there is no harm in little children believing in Santa. Of course, that's just my opinion.
Boston Bonnie said... 114
My sister hated giving credit to Santa for all the hard work she put in to getting Christmas ready. I can see Khate feeling the same way and intentionally spoiling it for the kids.
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I think Kate did say something to this effect in one of her chair inteviews (think Jon was there, too, so it would have to be one of the first seasons) I don't want to put words in her mouth, but I am pretty sure she said something like you mentioned, she didn't want to give someone else the credit for something she did.
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@msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Not 2mention...time w/Kate improved his morals & wrk ethic 4 a while..then the real Jon just had 2comeback! :(
What in the h##l is this nutjob talking about? Jon's work ethic and morals improved while he was living with Kate? WORK ETHIC? She's so far gone that no recovery is possible. I only hope that she really is confined to some kind of institution because that's the only place she should be.
Ever since Kate got called out on Jon having 50-50, she's been overcompensating.
She acts like she has the kids every weekend, every holiday, every morning, afternoon and evening, every birthday, every birthday weekend. She can't even mention the other parent since then. Based on her tweets one might assume Jon has passed away, may he rest in peace. She really needs help, a lot of help.
I remember her actually saying that, that she feels Christmas should recognize who gives what.
It wasn't even about having some kind of religious objection to Santa. It was about some imaginary jolly man taking even a fraction of the credit away from Kate.
aggiemom, yes, the counselling helped and we have all moved on and have dealt with it in one way or another. Thank you for your compassion and kind heart. God bless.
Midnight lol it doesn't even make any sense since there is no footage or even remotely any information about how Jon was before he met Kate for anyone to say Jon "improved" when he met Kate. For heaven sake didn't they meet in about 1998 or something???
Let me turn the question around - why do you Anonymous posters come here and post and bitch at us? After all, you're driving up the hits to this site every time you do so. I only ask, since you seem so concerned about such things.
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I just checked, we passed 8 million hits! We're actually at 8.1!
I'd like to thank my mom, my dad, all the posters here, my makeup artist, the pool boys, the rest of the staff you know who you are, and YOU, the drivebys.
Well, congrats Admin, but don't get too cocky about it! You know once Milo reads this, she will put Kate's numbers out there and Kate's 10.5 million will put you to shame! LOL!!
Admin said, Ever since Kate got called out on Jon having 50-50, she's been overcompensating.
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True, plus the fact that the book came out. She overcompensating for being called out as being a monster, and now she gives to die-for birthday parties, being the best mommy ever, ad nauseam.
I'm listening to Sandusky speaking out today, still proclaiming his innocence and blaming the victims. He's been convicted of 45 counts, and is saying that the media, Penn State, investigators, and the victims, etc., want prestige and attention. His sentencing is tomorrow. If he can blame the system he thinks they won't blame the abuser.
His wife has been his only sex partner, he claims. Everyone else is making him out to be a monster for accusing him of being guilty of these "disgusting" acts. Yeah, right, Jerry, blame everyone else but yourself.
Isn't this what Kate does...everything bad that happens is the fault of everyone else?
In Pennsylvania, imagine you are called to investigate aCPS complaint at the orphanage, faced with Ms Kreider and her minions and her that's of lawsuits. You see kids with food, clothing, beds, and no bleeding or broken bones. Are you going to seriously do any kind of intervention? Seriously? you betcha the celebrity factor is going to make you tread very carefully on this one. I think the fact the family was filmed DID influence any investigation or action decided on.
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I firmly believe that's influenced a lot of things. I think one of the smartest moves dear Kate ever made was NOT to move to a celebrity laden place like NY or LA. She kept herself a novelty the rules don't apply to, and not just another celeb behaving badly. If she pulled that crap elsewhere no way would she get away with it. L.A. or NY wouldn't care about tourism and good will. PA does.
Administrator, congratulations on producing and maintaining a successful blog. We like you...we really like you...we really do.
8,000,000 is a lot!!
I just checked, we passed 8 million hits! We're actually at 8.1!
I'd like to thank my mom, my dad, all the posters here, my makeup artist, the pool boys, the rest of the staff you know who you are, and YOU, the drivebys.
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Should we send gifts or would you prefer gift cards to commemorate the occasion?
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As a Catholic, we celebrated Halloween and Christmas. Well, at Catholic grade school, we celebrated All Saints Day with a parade where you'd dress up as your patron Saint for whom you were named.
The closest to my name, according to my mom, was St. Raymond.
Yes, paraded around as St. Raymond.
Really, Mom?
LOL.
Aggie giftcards please. Target.
Wowser said... 118
Churches in our area in upstate NY do trunk or treat and there are always harvest parties. Good grief Kate...it's always about you. A friend of mine likes to be green and save money so each year after Christmas she would buy yards and yards of clearance Christmas material from the fabric store. She would sew all kinds of bags in all different shapes and sizes and put pretty Christmas ribbon and make drawstring bags and would wrap all her presents in them. They were washable and reusable every year. She had bags for wine bottles and shirt boxes and even huge ones that could fit a bike. Very clever, green and a savings. There you go kreider! That's how it's done.
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What a cute idea!! I may have to do this myself. :)
ADMIN,
HILARIOUS!!
Admin said, I'd like to thank my mom, my dad, all the posters here, my makeup artist, the pool boys, the rest of the staff you know who you are, and YOU, the drivebys.
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Don't forgot the blog girls and the mower boys out by the shed!
Aggie giftcards please. Target.
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You Betcha!!!!
everyone can email *me* for your address, since you are too busy to do such a mediocre task. I will send them all to you; hopefully they will arrive on the day assigned for opening mail!!
Don't worry about sending thank yous, because whatever we send is going to make you say..(like Kate)...I got mad because I realized that that was all there was!
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Congrats Admin. 8 million!!! Nice!!!
Let's throw tomatoes
Admon are you buying hits again? ;) Ashley Banfield was just on CNN talking about how much people spend to dress upbtheir pets for Halloween! Pets have it better than th G kids. I admit mine furbaby wears devil horns and a red cape every year. It suits her.
A song for kk. Thanks Linda Ronstadt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aahtK6W7l78
Excuse all the fatfinger typos.
Tamara said (116)...Do non-hallo'ween, no Santa christians celebrate christmas based on the pagan date, or the real month Christ was born in?
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What is the real birth date of Christ? I've heard so many dates thrown around based on the birth of John the Baptist, the collection of taxes, and festivals which would have meant that there was "no room at the inn," and I seem to remember the "consensus" put it in the middle of October.
How can setting a date aside (December 25) for celebration be considered "pagan?"
localyocal #140, LOL! I remember years ago when my daughter was 5 or 6 and we had our golden retiever, Jake. My darling MIL bought a costume for my daughter and a dragon costume for her "brother". Jake was able to get the hat off, but he accepted the stegosaurus cape!
Sherry Baby said... 143
Tamara said (116)...Do non-hallo'ween, no Santa christians celebrate christmas based on the pagan date, or the real month Christ was born in?
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What is the real birth date of Christ? I've heard so many dates thrown around based on the birth of John the Baptist, the collection of taxes, and festivals which would have meant that there was "no room at the inn," and I seem to remember the "consensus" put it in the middle of October.
How can setting a date aside (December 25) for celebration be considered "pagan?"
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The date 25 December wasnt set aside, it was taken straight from pagan holidays. It is well known that christian holidays were integrated with pagan holidays to keep the converts. It's not a big deal, winter holidays are fun no matter what religion. I celebrate any holiday if it involves good times- even Eid and Now Roz, the Persian New Year. The more the merrier!! :D
Sherry Baby, it's pagan because it took the place of Sun worship which was done on Dec 25. And worship of the Sun was not done by true Christians because the Bible strictly forbade the worship of any other god other than GOD.
Aggie giftcards please. Target.
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Does this mean that we shouldn't bother sending you hand-painted plaques with the words, "Faith, Family, Friends" on them?
Darn, the paint is just now drying...
8 million hits. haha! Eat your heart out Kate. Be sure you warm it up first.
Congrats Admin! I'm having a celebratory Rumspringa in honor of 15 Minutes.
Boston Bonnie said... 114
My sister hated giving credit to Santa for all the hard work she put in to getting Christmas ready.
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Sadly, this reminds me of the church dinner where I offered a prayer before eating, thanking God for the food. One of the women in charge sniffed that she didn't think God needed to be thanked, he wasn't in the kitchen.
As for Halloween, I don't agree with its original purposes, but in the modern era I know it brings harmless fun to millions of children and adults. For this reason alone I sit on my front porch with Rubbermaid Totes overflowing with many kinds of candy so the children can show off their costumes and have a small treat.
I don't understand the harm in that. If I were handing out pagan tracts to Christian children
that would be a different story. Since I'm not, let the parade of costumes begin!
Rhymes with Witch: - I thought about posting that song link after the Katie Couric interview...
"...sorta like a Waring blender..."
AuntieAnne but don't you know only a few people hate Kate and change their names?
It must be a full time job for those people to rack up 8 million hits. Impressive.
Sherry Baby, it's pagan because it took the place of Sun worship which was done on Dec 25.
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Right. I know that December 25 was called the birth of the sun, and as it turned out, it became a day to celebrate the Birth of the Son. I thought the original poster was saying that December 25 remains a pagan date of worship and asked how Christians feel about using that date to celebrate the birth of Christ. The pagan aspect of it has long been removed.
My bad!
miloandjack
@mcpheema @BIOGHAWG @Kateplusmy8 Whether IT IS or ISN'T Kate's journal...things taken out of context..possibly even misquoted is #Misleading
She's already preparing her defense. Sounds like she believes it could be Kate's journal BUT it was "misquoted" or "taken out of context".
How is something like "“I felt like I may hurt his children.” or “I pulled Collin up by the hair and I spanked them hard!!!” consider to be misquoted or taken out of context?
My daughter gets presents from me and from Santa. I always use the same paper for the Santa presents and would write her name left handed. I know I'm crazy! She's 16 and I still do that! LOL
I was rewatching the RV episode and Kate must have used the word "Masterminding" a dozen times. She really thinks being organized = being a good mother. ANother thing I was noticing; when she sent Cara to the RV for being nasty for some reason she sent Mady too. Maybe they edited out whatever Mady did, but when she sent them there she could care less. She was like "go, goodbye". She is cold as ice. And poor Ashley had to stay with them. Doesn't she see that her cold discipline doesn't work? If it did Cara would not be having all these outbursts after 11 years of it, KWIM?
Admin-congrats on over 8 million hits. Do those Target gift cards have to be in $8 increments?
Milo, milo, milo....Fake Kate bonks a married man...and sits and writes lists for others to do for 12 years....and you attack JON????
What are we to do with you? Please can't you find a better job than to blog for an promiscuous child abuser??
I know, I know. That's a million each. We ARE impressive.
I'm watching Dancing With The Stars right now-
Tony Dovolani & his dance partner (Melissa) just danced. They were GREAT!
I have laugh because Kate & her sheeple tried to place the blame on Tony for her lousy dancing. They are dead wrong. They received #9's straight across the board (highest score).
Go Tony, GO!!!
Rhymes with Witch said... 141
A song for kk. Thanks Linda Ronstadt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aahtK6W7l78
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I was sure the song would be "You're no good".LOL This one works too!
Kate is a twit said... 153
miloandjack
@mcpheema @BIOGHAWG @Kateplusmy8 Whether IT IS or ISN'T Kate's journal...things taken out of context..possibly even misquoted is #Misleading
She's already preparing her defense. Sounds like she believes it could be Kate's journal BUT it was "misquoted" or "taken out of context".
How is something like "“I felt like I may hurt his children.” or “I pulled Collin up by the hair and I spanked them hard!!!” consider to be misquoted or taken out of context?
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Someone should pull XXXX up by her hair, and ask
her how it feels...
Localyocul said... 154
My daughter gets presents from me and from Santa. I always use the same paper for the Santa presents and would write her name left handed. I know I'm crazy! She's 16 and I still do that! LOL
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I'm 40 and my mother still puts "from santa" on my xmas gifts :D (facepalm, mom!!)
She marks all the gifts from her that way- to everyone. She never takes credit. So sweet.
Robert Hoffman Allegedly Plans To Release More Damaging Claims About Kate Gosselin
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/351125/robert-hoffman-allegedly-plans-to-release-more-damaging-claims-about-kate-gosselin/#IUdD6WI7hLMJ3oEM.99
Andy Cohen's show with Kate is being filmed on Wednesday so get your questions in.
Milo is so fricking unbelievable! How can she assume that Kate's journals were misquoted or taken out of context without reading them? If she actually took the time to read them, how can she make those ridiculous comments?
There is just no reasoning with people who have absolutely no reasoning, or common sense.
Hallowe'en began as a pagan holiday. Many gods are involved in pagan celebrations. Fire is involved in Hallowe'en, and I believe there are some tokens they bury. Most importantly, the souls of deceased ancestors are invited in for the evening. The home must be spotless and inviting, food must be cooked and set out so the souls can indulge themselves.
In the course of time, the Christians decided to, shall we say, hijack pagan holidays the best
way they could. For Hallowe'en they took the return of the dead souls and turned into honoring those who died as baptized Christians,
remembering their Godly deeds.
I am sharing information shared with me by a very dear friend who is Celtic pagan.
Whether IT IS or ISN'T Kate's journal...things taken out of context..possibly even misquoted is #Misleading
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I agree Milo. Kate's journal entries are misquoted.
October 20, 2006 Today was a mad day!!!!!! I was really relieved that there was really nothing on the calendar besides the usual craziness! So we did the usual stuff: breakfast after the diaper changes and then we played in the basement and then lunch and then I put them all in their cribs and got the girls off to school and did my usual cleanup and ate lunch while watching the cooking channel and even got to sleep for a few minutes. The awful part came after nap….. I went up to get them at 3: 30 as usual, Hannah and Leah were still sleeping so I let them sleep! I got the other four and we went downstairs to wait for the school bus! When I went back up at 4: 30 the girls were still sleeping but I decided to get them anyway…. I went over to Leah and I couldn’t believe my eyes!!!!! Shewas asleep with poop from head to toe and all over her crib!!!!!! It was mashed into the bottoms of both feet and on her sheet, blankets, a book in her crib— some was even flung to the edge of Alexis’ crib!!!!! I was instantly angry and woke her up with my angry voice!!!!! I put her in the bath tub and stood her in an inch of water to soak her feet and showered her! The poor little thing was shaking wit h coldness or fear or something!
I'm sure she meant she was having a GLAD day. Or maybe a SAD day or even a BAD day. Surely she didn't mean she was having a MAD day!!!!
Thank God for Milo. If it weren't for her I wouldn't know what the truth is anymore. She just keeps getting smarter. #yeahright
Pardon me, I meant to say that Christianity set November 1 as the day to recognize the departed saved souls.
Quick Halloween costume story.
When I was in my early 20s, my friends and I needed a quick, cheap costume. They were both working, it was up to me to have something ready so that when they finished, we could all head out to the party. I got 3 of the brown paper lawn/leaf bags, and using magic marker colored each side with a 7, heart, cherries, etc., and cut out armholes/head hole.
My one friend had a pair of sparkly silver glove, and she wore one on her right hand. We each "wore" a bag, and stood in a row as the human slot machine. Other partygoers would "pull down" on her raised silver glove and we would spin around until someone yelled stop.
Best costume ever. So much fun, so easy, cheap and simple.
heather
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 128
I just checked, we passed 8 million hits! We're actually at 8.1!
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Happy dance and glass of wine time!!! Nice going, Admin and posters and a very special thanks to the sh$t stirrers for their help :)
Always liked this quote (can't remember who said it) - it applies here! “Leaders live by choice, not by accident.”
So Khate was lying about her poop background in the first tv special?
A new sheeple...represents Kate's fan base. These are funny...
sunlightt4
@EmeraldCityJazz @ashymama2 @Kateplusmy8 @Klumpe her grace looks parenting being obser tv. Not having to waste her time h8n u freak
sunlightt4
@Berksgrl @ashymama2 @EmeraldCityJazz @Kateplusmy8 @Klumpe lol look only a jels person would waste there time h8tn weridos
sunlightt4
@sixymomma8 @Berksgrl @ashymama2 @EmeraldCityJazz @Kateplusmy8 @Klumpe omg cause u kno freak. Obssed jels freak is what u r im sure
sunlightt4
@EmeraldCityJazz @ashymama2 @Kateplusmy8 @Klumpe cause jealous freak that sit and tweet to some1 u dnt like use r the one's that are fd up
sunlightt4
@sixymomma8 @mylilabbster @Kateplusmy8 or her kids so u sick people really should stop your crazy obsession I luck that show and those kid
sunlightt4
@sixymomma8 @mylilabbster @Kateplusmy8 seriously thats crazy everything I read all u weirdo r there u even have name on how much u r intoher
sunlightt4
@Allisstair @Kateplusmy8 b ur judge. And I can tell u . U r sick there are 8lil lives that are invl in ur bashing crazy peps
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 158
I'm watching Dancing With The Stars right now-
Tony Dovolani & his dance partner (Melissa) just danced. They were GREAT!
I have laugh because Kate & her sheeple tried to place the blame on Tony for her lousy dancing. They are dead wrong. They received #9's straight across the board (highest score).
Go Tony, GO!!!
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Two words for your future reference: SPOILER ALERT.
miloandjack
@mcpheema @BIOGHAWG @Kateplusmy8 Whether IT IS or ISN'T Kate's journal...things taken out of context..possibly even misquoted is #Misleading
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How do you take out of context what someone wrote with their own words??
Come off it Milo Kate did it.Unless she lying and she just wrote what she wrote for kicks.
Twittering, 171 you missed the funniest one:
@sunlightt4
@sixymomma8 @Berksgrl @ashymama2 @EmeraldCityJazz @Kateplusmy8 @Klumpe seriously sexy mama that ur name and u dare say anything on kate wow
and the reply:
@sixymomma8
@sunlightt4 @Berksgrl @ashymama2 @EmeraldCityJazz @Kateplusmy8 @Klumpe hahaah it is kates old email address LOSER. you just dissed kate
So many posts to read! I've read several about Mr. Hoffman making money from the book.
Question ~ Because Amazon recalled (for lack of a better word) the book, did purchasers receive a refund? If so, likely he had Amazon related cost associated with the ebook process.
Speculation about him making $$$ by selling aspects of the book are simply that. It's my opinion Mr. Hoffman is very much in the red right now and probably under some type of gag order that's powered by threat of a lawsuit.
Too bad much of the information in the book didn't come out sooner, such as during K&8 run. It likely would have been more explosive had it occurred then.
Lastly, I have a family with two sets of twins plus one more child living directly behind me (standard suburban neighborhood). They're all under age 7, I believe. Although they've lived in my neighborhood less than a year, I feel like I'm living in "Distressed Children Hell". I've never heard so many, and so frequent, cries ever! I've taken to using my digital camera to record the audio. It's heart breaking.
Not only have I called our local CPS, I've telephone the police several times. So far, nothing. I cannot imagine that many of the G's neighbors (pre-Konpound neighbors) did not do what I've done. I've always believed the G's relocated in rural PA so no one would hear what goes on.
Sorry for being all over with this post, but once I began typing, all heck broke loose in my mind!
Dwindle ~ I think about you every single day.
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A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 158
I'm watching Dancing With The Stars right now-
Tony Dovolani & his dance partner (Melissa) just danced. They were GREAT!
I have laugh because Kate & her sheeple tried to place the blame on Tony for her lousy dancing. They are dead wrong. They received #9's straight across the board (highest score).
Go Tony, GO!!!
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I second that! Would have been nice to be surprised.
Since I'm currently on the left coast I get WWHL at 8 (just realized its Kate's favorite number). I'm going to try to get through on the phone (and twitter, I just followed him). I'm going to tell the screeners that I want to talk to her about her dating show and I'm going to ask her if there will be spanking involved....hee, hee, hee. Im also going to tweet that as a question and I'm going to tweet Andy, that a jackhole doest change her stripes...once a jackhole always a jackhole.
Milo is so fricking unbelievable! How can she assume that Kate's journals were misquoted or taken out of context without reading them? If she actually took the time to read them, how can she make those ridiculous comments?
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Unrequited love, a burning passion in the loins, desperate desire, all-consuming lust...plus the fact that she is nuts.
I agree, Moose Mania; Milo is nuts!
So whatif Robert made money off his book by selling Kate out.
Kate made money buy selling her kids lives.
Kate = Syrup of Ipecac said... 175
Lastly, I have a family with two sets of twins plus one more child living directly behind me (standard suburban neighborhood). They're all under age 7, I believe. Although they've lived in my neighborhood less than a year, I feel like I'm living in "Distressed Children Hell". I've never heard so many, and so frequent, cries ever! I've taken to using my digital camera to record the audio. It's heart breaking.
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is there anyway to strike up a conversation with the kids or parents if you 'just happen' to be outside while they are?
I was just reading the book, Robert states he was standing at the road and could hear Kate screaming at Jon (and she was INSIDE the house.)
Localyocul said... 174
Twittering, 171 you missed the funniest one:
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lol, local! I was getting blurry-eyed trying to figure out what she/he was trying to say, so I gave up. What a whacko! Kate must be so proud to attract these kooks.
the tanning salon? When I was in Las Vegas with Jon, I took a call from one the paps telling me to please pass on to Jon that they followed Kate at 110 mph that day with three of the sextuplets in the car. They didn’t report her or
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 18984-18987). . Kindle Edition.
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I'm speechless.
Kate = Syrup of Ipecac said... 175
Question ~ Because Amazon recalled (for lack of a better word) the book, did purchasers receive a refund?
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Amazon didn't "recall" the book - they took it off their page, so that future sales would stop. So...for those of us who purchased it, we still have the book on our Kindles (or other electronic device). No refunds.
Kate appears to be trying a little TOO hard..,almost desperate, to prove she 's a good mother on twitter....over the top BS about prep and birthday events/food and festivities. today she took a sick kid to the dr...and now she is spending quality time watching DWTS with her kids. Right! We all believe you are mother earth incarnate and were never a child abuser. Where is my lights out man when I need him?!
So sorry.
It was not my intention to ruin it for those who have not seen DWTS.
My mistake.
I apologize.
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aggiemom09121416 said: is there anyway to strike up a conversation with the kids or parents if you 'just happen' to be outside while they are?
I don't know what I would say to the parents.
A 6' fence separates our backyards, so I'd have to stand on something to strike up a conversation. I have never seen them, but I hear them. The mother infuriates me. She seems to tune out her childrens' cries and screams.
A telephone report back to me from one investigating officer happened only once. Police logs report it was a 90 minute visit that time. Apparently the father is away a lot working and mother claims she's an overwhelmed single parent. One child has a disability and the others are too young to take meds for some disorder. The officer seemed to feel for the mother, not the children. Sadly, children with disabilities are 3.44 times more likely to be abused than those without.
CPS person listened to my accounts and took the childrens names (which I've heard yelled over and over). I mentioned my calls to the PD and my multiple audio recordings. No one, to date, has requested to listen to them. I can report that the multiple times per day occurrences have lessened to once or twice per day, about every other day... but their windows are closed almost all the time now. One time I did hear the mother shout out a threat to the kids that they could be taken away.
Ipecac -- I don't know what you can do. But, please don't give up trying. You may be the only chance for those children and that mother to get help.
Keep posting here for support.
Bless you for caring.
Where is my lights out man when I need him?!
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Getting ready to tuck Milo into bed, I presume, before she can spew out any more of this nonsense:
miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Ur children R a reflection of U..ur the parent who has the awesome job of day2day care&training! Ur kids speak volumes abt U
Gawd, I hope not...for the sake of the kids.
Why is it that the kids, who spend just as much time with Jon, aren't a reflection of him too? Why does Kate always get 100% of the credit?
Because she is awesomeish Kate and he is mediocre Jon. No need for the riff raff to get any credit when there's a queen on hand.
Dwindle - just logged on tonight for the first time in days. So sorry to hear about your beloved dog. Belated hugs to you.
My heart has been so heavy from reading Robert's book that I just couldn't also read the comments here. I needed a Kate break.
My kids aren't long out of the nest and some days I miss them terribly. Reading how Kate beat her babies is too much to handle. I don't know if I'll finish the book. I fear she'll get away clean again.
Sorry to ramble. Just sad.
Admin...Congrats on the 8 million hits. However, since the nearest Target is at least a 1/2 hour away from me, is it okay if I send you several packages of QN toilet paper as I can easlily get some at my local Kmart or Walmart? If you insist on the Target gift card, I will understand.
Why is it that the kids, who spend just as much time with Jon, aren't a reflection of him too? Why does Kate always get 100% of the credit?
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Because Milo isn't in love with Jon. He's the enemy. I wonder if she sees Steve as her competition.
koo pee doo. 150
Great minds an all that. poor,poor pitiful me........
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I am SO GLAD you are still around.
Please post when the the spirit moves you. I am so glad you are still here.
Bottomline, Fakekate is a miserable human being. Ask any adult that has spent any time with her that was not on the payroll
@msgoody2shoes21
@MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 I hope Mr. Right is a "Mr. Big" in all areas of his life!
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Geez msgoody. Are you trying to upset Milo?
He collected a tub full of green leaves from our back yard and glued them all over the surface of a brown paper bag, which we slipped over his head. (With holes for his eyes and arms.) He shuffled because we wrapped brown fabric around his legs for the tree trunk.
He opted to stay home and give candy to trick or treat visitors -- because that is what a GIVING tree would do.
The memories of a costume soaked with the smell of Elmer's glue can still make me smile.
I thought you had a daughter? Regardless, the child sounds perfect. You must be proud of yourself.
toot toot - Thank you. I have a son. He lives in Texas and is an awesome adult. I am proud -- every day. (He is the Flight Aware guy.)
I feel sorry for Kate. She is grasping for glitter and junk and overlooking what is really important. She saved $160.00 on costumes! What?? She lost a fortune in memories.
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