Friday, October 5, 2012

Discussion Thread: 'Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World,' Chapters 8-10





'I know without a doubt that we did the right thing.'

We will do a “book club” style discussion of a few chapters at a time as we read the book together. You are free to read with the group or skip ahead. You are also free to discuss whatever you like, however if you want to partake in the book club discussion, this thread is here to discuss the designated chapters. Robert Hoffman’s book “Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World” was available on Amazon for Kindle, but has been suspended with an unknown date when it will be available again. The Kindle app is free for multiple platforms, including PCs.


8. Show Me the Money!!!!! Part 1 

Kate has been marketing the sextuplets even before they were born. She invited dozens of media to their first birthday party. She requested a 15-passenger van and that people give Target gift cards in lieu of sending gifts.

Kate was extremely paranoid that other families with multiples could steal her thunder. Betty Hayes, a New Jersey mother of sextuplets and two sets of twins, called Kate asking about their first special and about being paid and receiving freebies. Kate writes that she is “mad” that the Hayes are getting another special, and “I am merely trying to provide for my family and rely on the Lord to do so! He is in control and I HATE this competition pressure I am forced to deal with!

After the first Discovery special aired and did well, talks commenced for a second special and a 20-episode contract. Discovery agreed to pay the family $2,000 an episode, with many things comped including Disney World and the grocery shopping trip to Giant. Kate was involved in a lot of back and forth e-mails with producer Jen Stocks about episode ideas and money. As time went on, Kate grew more demanding about what things Discovery would comp. She also continued to take checks and cash from fans, friends and relatives, sometimes checks for several hundred dollars or more.

In October 2006, Kate’s grandmother died. Kate wrote this about the funeral: “Her service was nice except that our mother tried to preach to us children through her tribute to grandma… none of us appreciated that!!!”

In March 2007, Kate called Discovery’s treatment of them “wining and dining”  and refers to it as a “magical time.” For season two, Jon and Kate wanted $6,000 an episode. Discovery negotiated them down to $5,000.

Kate obsessively tried to line up other money making opportunities, for example commercials. She accused Discovery of “sucking the life” out of deals after there was concern a commercial she wanted to do for Fridgidaire might compete with some of their other advertisers. Kate had visions of filming even when she was “old and gray.” In one email she writes: “I also want to secure a 'foreverness' for our family (house, college etc) that goes beyond our show so that when I look back when I am old and gray (and probably STILL filming- ha ha) I know without a doubt that we did the right thing.”

9. Show Me the Money!!!!! Part 2

The Gosselins made less money per episode than some sources have reported. Season one they made $2,000 an episode. Season two and three they made $5,000 an episode. Season four was $9,000 per episode, which was later re-negotiated to $22,500. Season five stayed at $22,500 per episode.

Kate hired a new manager, Julie Carson May, in April 2008. May was heavily involved in contract negotiations. She fought to try to limit the family’s commitment to the show to an average of three days a week, that each season include at least 35 episodes, and that the family would be compensated for episodes even if they used old footage from previous seasons (i.e. flashback episodes), for first class travel and “overages” of $600 a day per family member and $75 per diem per day per family member. She proposed a ghost writer to write TLC’s Jon and Kate blog because Kate didn’t have time. Tax obligations were flagged as something to be discussed. She wanted the family to have input and approval over merchandising.

The list of freebies Kate was able to get Discovery and others to pay for or at least offer to her is astounding. Landscaping, fences, Gymboree, ski clothes for Cara, a condo near Cancun, a beach house in North Carolina, an offer for filming a breast augmentation in San Diego and subsequent recovery at a resort called The Hideaway  [Admin note: My source says Kate ultimately chose Dr. Glassman to do her breasts, without filming. In the book she indeed says she has a choice between Glassman (but no filming) or San Diego (filming), though doesn’t say which one she ended up choosing. One wonders if some kind of executive decision was made to keep the boob job secret for image reasons, even though they had an offer to film it.], at least $500 a week at Ann Taylor, make-up, Olay daily facials, Crest whitestrips, camping equipment, furniture, Charmin toilet paper, invisible fence for the dogs, and a trip to Niagara Falls. Kate responded to an offer from a doctor to give just Jon Lasik surgery that she wanted it for both of them. Kate frequently follows up with those who gave her free things, straight out asking for more and claiming how much she talks about how great their products are.

Kate once shamelessly skipped out on a scheduled weekly conference call with Discovery to go to the spa. There were also discussions about a deal for Cara and Mady to “write” a series of children’s books. Perhaps most disturbing of all, there was discussion about designing an iPhone game around the children. Part of the game description includes: “The game starts with the player taking on the roll of Kate on Monday morning.   The player must get through 7 day/night cycles to win the games first level.   Each level will not only be separated by days, but each day will also be separated in sections breakfast time, lunch and dinner time, with bedtime being the goal the player trying to reach each day. The first week is an example of basic daily life, from getting the oldest kids ready for school to getting the rest of the kids ready for their meals, in this case breakfast. Each of the kids run of different timers, where they will get antsy, crying or even have a full tantrum depending on how long they are left alone or not given what they need.”

Kate and Beth received a $100,000 advance for their book Multiple Blessings. A deal with Kmart for their holiday campaign that only required three-days of work paid $158,000 plus up to $5,000 for a security team of Kate’s choosing. There was also a $25,000 Proctor and Gamble deal.

10. A Family Under (Discovery's) Control 



Discovery maintained a frightening amount of control over the family contractually, including where they would travel, what they wore and even how they styled their hair. Discovery also had several provisions limiting their liability and obligations to the family. They specifically prohibited the Gosselins from subjecting their contracts to union rules such as SAG. [Admin note: Huge red flag they were taking advantage of the family and actively trying to circumvent any built in protections in the entertainment industry’s unions.] The contract also included a provision that the Gosselins would “guarantee” the children’s “performance” and “obligations.” Discovery released themselves of all responsibility in the event of an accident or even death. They also had a provision excluding them from any worker’s compensation claims. Any personal photos and video the family took in the course of the show was the property of Discovery. Discovery could terminate the contract at any time for any reason without owing the Gosselins a cent.  It was the Gosselin’s obligation to secure any necessary work permits and travel documents. They also wrote in the right to sue should any member of the family breach any of their obligations. In other words, Discovery could bail on the family at any time without consequence, but there would be hell to pay if any member of the family ever tried the same thing (and as we all saw, there was).

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aggiemom09121416 said...

June 6, 2007

Just as all this was happening, I heard some gleeful laughing and giggling in the laundry room (and I might add, that by this point exhausted didn’t even describe my state!!!)   which is usually NOT a good thing!!! I followed my ears and discovered that Alexis and Aaden were splashing and wearing my soaking buckets!!! There was all but an inch of water on the   floor and Aaden was wearing it in his hair and down his face…. and it is STRONG oxiclean water!!!! I lost it! I absolutely melted down!!!! I started cleaning it up and called jon to tell him ALL of the news and sobbed so hard that he couldn’t understand me. I told him in so many words that I felt like I may hurt his children etc and so on. Fortunately, I know to send them to their beds when they have been naughty so that they are out of my sight and then I know that they are safe!!!! So they were in their beds and I was sobbing and cleaning up the floor when I decided to lay down on the towels and continue to cry. I was sobbing   ‘please somebody help me… please wont somebody help me’ when I heard this little voice say ‘mommy I will help you!’. It was little Leah and that melted my heart!!! She had been standing there watching my melt down and to hear her say that was so very dear!!!! She and Hannah then offered their help and I appreciated their support if nothing else!!!

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 25307-25314). . Kindle Edition.

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this woman is an abuser...almost every journal entry is similar to this..it goes on and on and on.......

aggiemom09121416 said...

If you think it's okay for strangers to take pictures of the Gosselin children and then have those sightings reported on blogs, but think it's wrong for Kate to tweet about her children, that is hypocritical.
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I don't think so at all.
These strangers aren't making these kids pay for their mortgage.

Dmasy said...

aggiemom, 199 -- that journal entry breaks my heart. She is begging God to help her. Did she not consider that God might expect her to seek help on her own? How is a beaten 2-year-old supposed to understand apologies?

I cannot believe the woman capable of that anger against a toddler has changed into a compassionate and warm-hearted mother today.

Berks resident said...

Berks that's great. It's inevitable Kate would be caught in a lie. Would your friend be ok if we used the pic on the blog with kids blurred?

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I'm sure she would be fine with it. First though it's on my phone. I have no Iphone so I'm not sure how to get it from my phone to my computer! Second, it shows the kids from the back, no faces would have to be blurred.

To the person who chided about the kids' privacy yep, I was waiting for that insult. But hey I was so happy to see that they were doing something fun that I frankly didn't worry about it, and since I didn't share the name of the place I wasn't divulging any big secrets.

It was a nice story that I wanted to share because it made me smile. No more, no less.

Angie said...

J & K put those kids out there. K keeps them out there. We know when they are swimming, getting school shoes, doing homework, eating, making cupcakes. We hear about everything, everyday. She has to keep them in the spotlight because she somehow thinks they have a big following. Didn't she tweet that the twins got 100,000 tweets or something like that. Do the twins have a fan club? Up on the Posting by Admin, Kate had an idea for the twins to do a comic book or something like that? She is pushing those twins faster now. Can you imagine when she saw those kids from the dancing reality show on Katie Couric? I still don't think that Katie Couric is done with Kate Gosselin. Another interview is yet to come.

Who do you think will be the bartender on Andy Cohen's show? He always has someone special as the bartender and he asks each guest 3 questions and on one question they can answer they don't have to answer. So be prepared, Andy has asked the most embarrassing questions, even of Meryl Streep. I like his show, don't watch it every night. He always has guests who could end up not liking each other and the drinking goes on, big time. Should be surprising. Andy Cohen is no dummy. He put those housewife shows on the air.

gabby2 said...

I remember reading on the blogs how Kate use to leave the babies in cribs for over 4 hours each day....were these the few hours she did not have help? And is this when the abuse took place...in secret, but she just could not help herself and had to justify her actions in her jpurnal?

Hypocrisy 101 said...

aggiemom09121416 said... 2
If you think it's okay for strangers to take pictures of the Gosselin children and then have those sightings reported on blogs, but think it's wrong for Kate to tweet about her children, that is hypocritical.
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I don't think so at all.
These strangers aren't making these kids pay for their mortgage.

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That's fine and dandy, but clearly you do not care about the children's privacy. Apparently your need to know about them trumps their right to privacy. I think your priorities are a bit skewed.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


If you think it's okay for strangers to take pictures of the Gosselin children and then have those sightings reported on blogs, but think it's wrong for Kate to tweet about her children, that is hypocritical.

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I totally see what you were saying, and I wouldn't care but for the fact that Kate has continued to blatantly lie about Jon's custody, which alienates them. Proof that she is a liar and parental alienator was provided by Berks tonight. I don't require more than this, this is the proof. Done. This is Kate's fault, had she just admitted that Jon does indeed have 50-50 custody, there would be no need to prove this lying parental alienator wrong. Sheeple are happy to let Kate spout all the crap she does about custody yet don't want a peep from Jon's camp about when he has custody. Frankly, that's hypocritical too.


Berks e-mail me and we'll figure out the photo. You can send it to my iphone and from there I can snag it.

aggiemom09121416 said...

and for the record, Hypocrite, I don't necessarily need or want to see a pic of the kids...it's just good to hear that they got to do something FUN for a change.

other than that, I agree with everything you said.
*snicker*

Dmasy said...

Berks -- here is the low tech way to share the photo. Have your friend send it to someone with an iPhone. They can email it to you. Then you will have it in your computer. (I have done this.)

Yeah...I know. But at least I have figured out a way!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


and for the record, Hypocrite, I don't necessarily need or want to see a pic of the kids...it's just good to hear that they got to do something FUN for a change.

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And it's good to here Jon has them when Kate says he doesn't. She is a lying parental alienator who should be stopped, and tonight she was. I knew this would happen eventually.

aggiemom09121416 said...

That's fine and dandy, but clearly you do not care about the children's privacy. Apparently your need to know about them trumps their right to privacy. I think your priorities are a bit skewed.
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yea, kids that live with abusive mothers need someone to watch out for them.
Hell, I am tickled to death they finally get to do something normal.
beats weeding the yard while their mom runs up and down the driveway.

Hypocrisy 101 said...

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 8

...Sheeple are happy to let Kate spout all the crap she does about custody yet don't want a peep from Jon's camp about when he has custody. Frankly, that's hypocritical too.

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Yes, it is.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Cool, we agree on that at least! :)

LoveMyGrandsons said...

As others have stated, when Kate had her meltdowns and prayed, she wasn't really praying for help as much as she was praying that the kids would just behave and listen to her. My gosh, they were only 2-3 years old. My impression is that the prayers were more for the kids behaving so she didn't have to lose it and hurt them. That is so sad. God bless those children.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


I remember reading on the blogs how Kate use to leave the babies in cribs for over 4 hours each day

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We talked about it from the blogs but just to clarify this was not a "rumor." Kate herself in some of the first episodes talked about how much time those kids were in their cribs. I think had we realized then what a disturbed woman she was there would have been more outrage at the time. I guess it was one of those things where it didn't quite register at the time. Sort of like, well that sounds odd, but I guess she does ok otherwise. Little did we know....so naive.

chefsummer #Leh said...

This might sound mean but I don't feel sorry for Kate and the fact that she was abused.

She could have gotten therapy or counseling but she choose to.

Take her angry out on her defenseless children and write about it.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Kate never tweets about the boys or if she does it rare.

She might tweet a pic about the boys. But it seems she never has a happy tweet about her sons.

What is up with that?


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Because they're with Jon most of the time, Alex?

librarylady said...

I don't think anyone should take pictures, to be honest, **BUT it is nice to hear that they are out having a nice time with Dad and all. :)

It was obvious that they weren't home anyway, since K hasn't tweeted for hours. Always the tip-off. If her little *employees* aren't there, then she's off the clock, too, with her twitter job.

Cruisin Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

How old was Collin during the bean fiasco? She was in the kitchen, and the kids were in the garage unsupervised? If he was under three, who was there watching the kids? Never in a million years would I allow a child that age to be in a garage without an adult present, and I'm assuming that there was nobody with them or they wouldn't have allowed him access to the beans.
It's amazing that, with parental neglect, nothing serious has happened to these kids. I know that I'm over-protective, but you just don't let kids that young roam around without supervision. Too much can happen.

aggiemom09121416 said...

(same day as oxiclean meltdown)

else!!! … That evening, Aaden had a few more potty accidents which caused me to finally put him back into diapers (which about two to three weeks into it I hated to do but I just can’t take the million accidents a day!). when Jon got home he had the nerve to lie to me about buying lunch in Philly that day! I KNEW he was lying, his eyes were as big as saucers!!! But he insisted that he ‘didn’t have lunch’ when really he had put it on the credit card!!!! That was the absolute end to the most horrible day in history!!!! Why am I so unloved that he has to continually lie to me? Am I that stupid? Is he that character less? Evidently he cares more about his OWN fear or whatever that lying is okay! Does he really think that I would never EVER find out? Just be honest weak boy!!!!! Some life lesson he is teaching his kids! Great we will have a house full of lying kids….. that makes me completely sick!!!!!!!

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 25316-25322). . Kindle Edition.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 25314-25316). . Kindle Edition.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I'm fine life is just busy right now.

Robert has been advised by his attorneys not to talk, just like Kate has. It's normal and nothing to be alarmed about.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Now Sandusky is blaming his victims.

Why do I feel that in years to come Kate will do the same?

Unknown said...

aggiemom09121416 said... 199
(quoting KK's journal)
''Lord I am begging you to help me be a loving caring kind and slow to anger mommy. Please stop me somehow from hurting my kids and help me to be slow to anger!!!! I love them SOOO much. Help them to obey me!!!!! And not get into trouble!!!!! Please Lord, amen!!!!''

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle
Locations 25245-25251). . Kindle Edition.
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This is the part that causes me want to shake KK till her head rattles! Her prayer to God to help her stop hurting her kids turns into ''Help them to obey me!!!!! And not get into trouble!!!!!'' The woman is a narcissistic lunatic!

Anonymous said...

( Let's Throw Tomatoes)

Aggiemom thanks again. I have noticed that there is a common theme with every time Kate has a melt down and that is that she has to clean up a mess! The mess can be either cleaning up poop, water on the floor or knocked over high chairs! It's never about kids fighting, hitting each other or demanding attention from their mom!
She is freaking lazy! Lazy, lazy,lazy that's why she continues to spend the big bucks for hire help!
Wow, she is really fooling her ENABLERS, that she is super mom, yeah right!
That woman is the worst mother I have ever known!
( Let's Throw Tomatoes )

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


He had the option to find a place to live near his children, rather than in another state. Kate did not have the power to ban him from Pennsylvania.


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He was in NYC for a brief time then came back. Will he ever be forgiven for this? What does it matter where you are when the other parent is on their custodial time, filming, or whatever and you're not allowed around? Might as well be somewhere where opportunities and jobs may be. Kate herself has probably spent more total time in NYC than Jon ever did.

What difference does it make if you're across the world or even on the moon, if it's not your custodial time it's not your custodial time.

Cruisin Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

I don't think anyone should take pictures, to be honest, **BUT it is nice to hear that they are out having a nice time with Dad and all. :)

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The sheeple would say that the picture is photoshopped, and Milo would declare that it was taken on a different day, adding that the tweets with the dates (according to Liz) that they were with Jon were misquoted and taken out of context.

aggiemom09121416 said...

I hope I'm not pulling too much out of the book and posting it here..I don't know all the legalities concerned.

Tucker's Mom said...

He was in NYC for a brief time then came back. Will he ever be forgiven for this?
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I alluded earlier to the fact that apparently no one knows where exactly Kate was when Jon had the kids/was at the house. She gave everyone the slip with her reckless driving.
Where was she? Why hide?
Oh, but let's just pick on Jon's living in NYC when Kate has spent far more time out of PA than Jon and Jon NEVER implied that he was waiting by the phone to take the kids if they wanted, when he was actually taking off a 5-star resort in Mexico.
Out of state a problemo?
Try out of the frickin' country.

Over In Kate's County said...

chefsummer said... 23

Now Sandusky is blaming his victims.

++++++++++++++++

Sandusky got only 30 years. The judge has been crucified, blasted beyond belief on local stations. One newscaster even wondered if the judge was wearing a Penn sweatshirt and if he asked for old Jerry's autograph. There were 10 victims, so he got only three years behind bars for each victim after destroying their lives. Of course there will be an appeal.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Most of us have even said here as long as it's not Kate's custodial time she can go where she pleases (assuming she's not spending the children's money to do so.) She recently went to Vegas, but that was Jon's time. Same goes for Jon. If it's not his time, he can go where he pleases. It goes for both of them.

Angie said...

How can I get this book? I have an Iphone.......This is crazy for me, not understanding how you all who have read the book know the inside of this enormous wealth of abuse by this maniac.

chefsummer #Leh said...

If that was Jon's journal and he wrote those words.

I bet Kate would have him locked up and his custody taken away.

The news media and sheep would rip him two bits.

aggiemom09121416 said...

July 16, 2007 Today is quite a rough day! I am being horrible to my kids, and they have also been horrible! The Hvac guy that we are not impressed with to begin with came— four hours late! That was after Jon’s dentist appt that we learned from Dr Ache- Whitmer that Jon needs to have an implant done on (3000 or so)   and I was on the phone all day about that! The kids were outside playing with play dough and I was on the phone and saw a HUGE centipede walking on the wall where the coffee maker sits! I almost died and couldn’t get off the phone… Mrs Caherly kept talking and talking and I was sweating! So I got a solo cup and taped it to the wall with packing tape so that Jon can kill it when he gets home tonight!

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 25391-25398). . Kindle Edition.
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had to post this, the last part is hilarious. So much for Can Do Kate.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Kate: “This whole thing started of course, when I wanted a third child I always wanted and Jon was happy with two. That’s the debate we always had. Two, or three? Two or three? But I just wanted that (whispers and looks down) third one …and, I bought one, got five free.”

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 26118-26120). . Kindle Edition.
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She REALLY takes saving money to a whole 'nother level, doesn't she!
*snark*

aggiemom09121416 said...

Angie said... 32

How can I get this book? I have an Iphone.......This is crazy for me, not understanding how you all who have read the book know the inside of this enormous wealth of abuse by this maniac.
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Robert released the book as an E-book on amazon a weekend or so ago, and Kate's atty's had it yanked for legalities the following monday. We that bought it still have it. It's damning information.
Robert says some volatile stuff concerning Kate buying meds from Canada. It's not in Kate's words, so won't post that here.

Yep, you are right...if this was Jon's journal, he would have been castrated and hung out to dry.
talk about hyopocritical!

franky said...

Sorry..haven't kept up with Khate's busy day.

I got up with dd..made her breakfast..went grocery shoppi.g.

Came back...painted lving room and hallway cooked dd'sfood for the week and rented a mocie..now watching tv..sje me I am lazy...and I am

I should have cleaned
turtle aquarium..it stinks.
lol..dd feeds him tok much

ok..busy mom rant over

back to klondike khate..clogging along

aggiemom09121416 said...

Cruisin Just As Fast As She Can Now said... 20

How old was Collin during the bean fiasco? She was in the kitchen, and the kids were in the garage unsupervised? If he was under three, who was there watc
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sorry I didn't catch the date on this one..

Jan 2, 2007 so the kids would have been 2 1/2.

capecodmama said...

aggiemom...Keep posting the journal entries please. I didn't purchase the book so I only know what's in it by what is posted here. Thanks!

Cruisin Just As Fast As She Can Now said...


Jan 2, 2007 so the kids would have been 2 1/2.

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Thanks, aggie. Good grief. Just a toddler. Kids that age still stick things into the mouths. What if he had choked on something he found there? It's a garage! I knew from watching some of the shows that she didn't really look out for the kids, but depended on the crew and helpers to make sure everyone was accounted for when they were on trips, but to let a toddler run around the house unsupervised just leaves me shaking my head.

Cruisin Just As Fast As She Can Now said...

Does Robert comment on the alleged hit and run accident?

njay said...

Wow, I am so angry. I read my mom the abuse parts of the books, ya know the prayer for not hurting her kids? She said, see she doesn't want to hurt them. then I read more AND SHE STARTED DEFENDING HER. Same as sheeple, she has eight kids. I can't even imagine what that would be like.

I said I can't believe you are defending her. She said don't judge her. My mom tried to kill herself four times as I was growing up. I was no. 6 by her age of 22. I always get to hear the crap about how they wanted me so bad because my 10 mo old sis. drowned in the bathtub.

That is where I get the need to make her happy. She needed me to..somewhat.. take away her pain from loosing my sis. Hence it's never enough, the things I do for her.

Sorry, I have to quit now. I'm so angry!!!!!!

capecodmama said...

So Kate, you have six toddlers running around always getting into things they're not supposed to and you have the nerve to get mad. Where the hell are you! They're YOUR six kids. They're your responsibility to know what they're doing. Get off your ass and move. If your kids are doing things they're not supposed to be doing, it's because you're not doing your job as a mother. You're the one that made the choice not to reduce so suck it up. You're an asshat, poopyhead, turd bucket, oozing butt pimple, child abusing douchebag.

Dwindle...Nice to see you back.

njay...So sorry to hear about what you went through.

chefsummer #Leh said...

Kids run around.
Kids touch everything.
Kids put things in there mouths.
Kids don't listen.
Kids get into things.
Kids hit each other.
Kids whine they scream and cry.

If Kate couldn't handle all of this she shouldn't have had children.

She need to learn how to control her temper or give those kids up.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Kids run around.
Kids touch everything.
Kids put things in there mouths.
Kids don't listen.
Kids get into things.
Kids hit each other.
Kids whine they scream and cry.

If Kate couldn't handle all of this she shouldn't have had children.

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A.....MEN!

Chef you often put it so simply yet so true.

Sweet Tart said...

LoveMyGrandsons: Like you, I feel certain that Beth Carson was well aware of Kate's questionable parenting, yet went forward with a project designed to sell a phony story to the public. She received financial gain. That is what makes her unlikeable to me. I can only hope she donated every penny of those ill gotten gains to a charity for abused children . ( I tend to doubt she did.)

njay said...

After talking to my mom and my mom defending Kate, I have come to the realization that, like my mom, the sheeple defend her because they either:
1. Are abusing their own children or those they babysit.
2. Want to abuse but are able to hold it back. similar to Kate leaving them in their room so they remained safe.
3. Have abused in the past and have to justify their own guilt by excusing others abuse. Like my mom is with Kate.
Evil doers like company!

Capecodmamma, thank you.

A Mom said...

Does anyone get the feeling that Kate Gosselin thinks what was is ending and to match that all 8 children love being with their DAD. Go Jon Winning!

LifeinOH said...

@Alana - You did the right thing. There is no telling what you would have been greeted with if you had knocked on the apartment door.

The police should NEVER have given your name. Ever.

I'm so sorry all the authorities failed you and perhaps that baby.

Dmasy said...

Anyone else wonder how incensed Kate must be when she realizes that Jon lets the kids eat normal food without rationing. How crazy does she get when they come home with stains on their clothes?

She can't control what happens while they are with him. It must drive her totally nuts.

Dmasy said...

njay....sadly, your explanation is probably correct. I am sorry for what you have experienced. I am glad you are here for support.

SaveThe8FromEvilKate said...

Aggiemom09121416 #21 (can't copy & paste, not sure why)

Gotta love that journal entry, honestly! Kate can't ever tell the truth but is worried about having a house full of liars? Sheesh, Jon can't even go out to lunch without a verbal beatdown.

Frustrating and infuriating.

Anonymous said...

Has Kate tweeted any celebrities since the book came out?? Has she tweeted Roma Downey?? I wonder if Roma knows that Kate is a CHILD ABUSER! And what would she think if she knew or if she finds out?

How can Kate show her face in public?? You would think she would be embarrassed. She really is a very unusual person, and in a really awful way!

( Let's Throw Tomatoes )

LifeinOH said...

I don't understand why the house wasn't better baby proofed. The kids got into markers, beans, recycling, tissue boxes, the laundry room etc. They could have drowned in bucket of water in the laundry room! Why was there no gate there? Kate too lazy to step over it? If they get into the tissue box, and you care so deeply about that (how fun for a little kid to whip those tissues out one by one!) MOVE THE BOX!

A Quick Question said...

I know I am behind on comments but I have a thought. Does the book say exactly when she got the hormone package thingy? I was thinking maybe the reason he found it was she was trying to get pregnant again when her marriage was going to crap. Maybe that was why it was in the trash at the new place. Like I said I am way behind on the book and this blog so who knows. Just a thought.

JW said...

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Sadly enough, as Kate says in her journal, "collin wants me to love him so bad'(paraphrased)...he probably still does, so he does everything he can to help her, so she will love him. A child wants a mother's love.
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You know, this makes sense now why Collin would help Kate in bringing in their little plastic picnic tables, etc into the garage at the old house, remember? She would say how helpful he was when it came to putting these away; he just wanted his mother's love!

Penny said...

Njay, my mom defended Kate too.
"Well, She has ALL those kids!"
She also thinks RH book "to make money" is wrong and disgusting. When I tried to explain that the kids were being beaten in their cribs and nobody will stop it, she still couldn't get past that he went into her trash.

JoyinVirginia said...

Cherier1, I have the same observation. People babyproof homes all the time. There is an entire industry making things people can use to babyproof their homes. Was Ms Kreider so incredibly STUPID, and Jon too, to not spend a little time and money to make things safe around the home? To put things the children could get into out of their reach? It is not that hard to do.
These journal entries were probably written from the viewpoint of making her out to be the put-upon mother whose children are deliberately making her life hard. No, Ms Kreider, these entries make you sound incredibly stupid and lazy and without a vestige of common sense.

On a lighter note, admin, my latest foster got neutered last week and soon will be ready for adoption! He is very sweet and as soon as we get him to understand the don't pee in the house rule, he will be the perfect pet for someone!

njay said...

cherier1 said... 54
I don't understand why the house wasn't better baby proofed
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My opinion on this is because anything out the norm is annoying to Kate. You know, those white plastic thingy that locks around cupboard knobs etc.

njay said...

Penny said... 57
Njay, my mom defended Kate too.

Penny, did your mom abuse you or any other children. Either physically or emotionally?

Penny said...

Actually, neither of my parents were abusive. This is why I don't understand how being stressed and overwhelmed is a viable excuse to beat the crap out of a baby.

Ex Nurse said...

Alana--
You did the absolutely right thing. Given your own fragile health, you behaved in a perfectly responsible way and should be proud of the strength you demonstrated in makiNg a difficult call.--We can only do what we can do. It is outrageous that your identity was disclosed. From your description, those parents were unstable and the best thing for all concerned is to notify trained professionals. If there was a medical condition, those professional should have been able to refer to community resources. Other people may be comfortable with intervening on a personal level, while others are not. Until someone has been in this position, I don't think anyone really knows how thay would respond. I have filed reports on several neighbors. Even if they don't act on a report, if it is repeated they are more likely to respond if there are subsequent reports in the future. I'm glad you were able to get out of that situation.

SaveThe8FromEvilKate said...

Aggiemom's post #1 excerpt from book
June 6, 2007 - First sentence
"Just as all this was happening, I heard some gleeful laughing and giggling in laundry room (and I might add, that by this point exhausted didn't even describe my state!!!) which is usually NOT a good thing!!!"

My eyes are half open so I may be misunderstanding this. Is Kate coming right out and saying gleeful laughing and giggling is a bad thing? If Kate's not happy, nobody's happy line of thought?

Then there's this tweet from this morning "Kateplusmy8 There are those mornings when everything is a hassle, a drama&just difficult...Those are the ams that I wave goodbye, somewhat happily:)!"

There are parts in Hoffman's book where he tells about times Kate leaves for interviews, etc., without even hugging all the kids goodbye.

I wonder if there was yelling and/or physical abuse this morning. If that was the last time she saw them before she left for NY with her boyfriend, what a wonderful way to say she will miss them.

I very, very much dislike her.

njay said...

Dmasy said... 51
njay....sadly, your explanation is probably correct. I am sorry for what you have experienced. I am glad you are here for support.
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Thank you Dmasy. The greatest thing out of this though is it made me who I am today and I think I like myself in spite of some of the things I have yet to conquer.

The real cool thing is, all 6 of us have pretty much raised each other and we all have a kind heart and do our best not to harm anyone intentionally. Momma has a lot of good qualities also and handed them down to us. I still love my momma.

I seem to remember hearing or reading somewhere that love covers a multitude of sins. Just kidding, I did read and hear it from 1 Peter 4:8 "Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins."

Isn't it crazy and sad that Kate seems to turn away and block the very thing she longs for?



Tamara said...

I started cleaning it up and called jon to tell him ALL of the news and sobbed so hard that he couldn’t understand me. I told him in so many words that I felt like I may hurt his children etc and so on.
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For anyone whom excuses Jon by saying he didn't know that Khate was abusing their very you g children, she says in this entry that she told him she was afraid she would hurt his children! All of these journal entries are making me almost feel bad for Khate, in that she is so obviously mentally, medically troubled. But there is no such pass for Jon. How could any loving father not only let this go on back also MAKE MONEY OFF OF HIS CHILDREN'S PAIN and his wife's serious problems? It's just a sickening situation all around. And I doubt Khate only started physically abusing Mady after the sextuplets were born.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Berks sent me the pic and although I don't think I'm going to publish it, it does indeed show Jon out with the kids, one of the twins and a girl and boy tup that i can make out from the back. Looks like Cara, Leah and Aaden to me. Kate and her parental alienation can suck it. It's a Tuesday.

Rio said...

Ah, go ahead and post the pic. It doesn't show their faces, so who cares? Plus it has the added bonus of putting Kate's lies out there.

Penny said...

Please don't post the picture.

Greedy Gosselins said...

I'm committed 2standin up2hatred, lies, false rumors & bullying! But sigh...its a thankless & tiring endeavor. Does anyone care? LOL Gnite! 1 day ago

@Kateplusmy8 There R nites when everything is a hassle, a drama & just difficult on twitter! LOL Time 2happily say Gnite Kate! Sleep well! 1 day ago

This Milo nutcase is passive agressively demanding Kate to 'recognize' her oh-so-faithful efforts. Wow.

The twit's tweets said...

Localyocul said... 62

Tucker's Mom said... 61
Localyocul said... 53
I stumbled across someone claiming to be Liz, Jons girlfriend on twitter.
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Wow, very interesting. IF this is Liz, it confirms what we've thought about Jon's custody and increased time with the boys, which makes me so very happy.
It must be hard to see Kate out there insinuating that she does it all alone, has the
kids all the time, is 100% responsible for the kids financially, and make it seem like Jon is a bad dad.
It's a fine line to walk. Do you say something when you know the truth? Do you risk controversy and possible retribution and/or lawsuits?
Tough call. Tough spot to be in

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Notice she says she is dirt to Kate after having given her the benefit of the doubt. Very interesting

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IF that's really Jon's girlfriend I'd like to ask her WHAT IN THE HECK SHE'S DOING TALKING ABOUT JON & HIS KIDS ON TWITTER? OMG, has no one learned anything from the past? ugh

Jon disappoints me yet again said...

IF that's really Jon's girlfriend I'd like to ask her WHAT IN THE HECK SHE'S DOING TALKING ABOUT JON & HIS KIDS ON TWITTER? OMG, has no one learned anything from the past? ugh
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I agree 100%. By her doing this, it only enflames the war between Jon and Kate and in the end, the CHILDREN suffer.

Yet again. Sad. It appears Jon is aware she is doing this, too, since she had to ask him what IMO means.

Anonymous said...

You can always tell when she's not with her children. She's completely silent on Twitter. This is because she's in LA (with Steve) for the taping of WWHL. I also always find it interesting that she never promotes ahead of time that she's going to be on a show. If she does, it's usually a last minute plug. Why can't her 'fans' see that she only uses them on Twitter to feed her narcissistic supply and to avoid spending time with her children when they are home? When she's away from them at all and for any length of time, she's silent. How can they NOT see that?!?! It's so obvious. She's very transparent, which is often the case with a narcissist.

-Heather

jillygee said...

I think WWHL tapes in NY.

Vanessa said...

Seems like those kids witnessed a lot of her "crying meltdowns" and had to comfort this obvious jekyll and hyde woman who is there mother. The plane meltdown? The skyfall meltdown? They've been her doormat/punching bag, then at the turn of a dime, they need to be her life jacket. The daily stress of having a mother who one minute is a.raging lunatic and then a blubbering.mess? They just need out of there.

Heide said...

I don't know if this has been posted yet -
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/kate-gosselin-animal-cruelty-accustaions-family-dogs

Pity Party said...

I am glad that someone tweeted about Jon having the kids on a weekday and that they were out being normal. KT makes it sound like she has all the kids all the time and I do believe there have been times when she inferred they were there when they were not. I don't think she should include anything about KT in there though as it just fans the flames. Just leave her out of the equation. She did say the other day that she had to fill the barn with chicken feed and I thought she would never do that herself. That is why she rarely tweets anything about the boys because not only are they a thorn in her side but quite often are with their dad. I have noticed lately that she has been making reference to a full house occasionally. I am more convinced than ever that she negotiated with him to make that statement so he could have them more. He should have them all the time as sadly, I think she has so pitted the kids against one another that they would not be sorely missed in the house of horrors with the mom from h*ll where they are at the bottom of the food chain.

Pity Party said...

I looked at the pic of the dogs on ROL. Are those ribs showing on the dog? Hard to tell with all the fur but it looks to me like it may be. I have noticed that M. is no longer asking about the dog. Must have gotten her reply in an email.

Anonymous said...

Pity Party #77 -

That photo of dogs in cages looks like when the dogs left during the divorce. I can't tell if ribs are showing.

Admin - Count me as against posting the photo from the yogurt shop excursion. I understand it proves Khate's lies (but it is not like she is tweeting that she has them right now anyway...she is off WHEREVER with Skeevo), but it was a private moment for a family.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Heide said... 75
I don't know if this has been posted yet -
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/kate-gosselin-animal-cruelty-accustaions-family-dogs
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In that ROL article it says near the end: For more exclusive details about the alleged shocking way Kate treated the defenseless family dogs pick up the latest issue of Star magazine on newsstands Thursday.

So my question is how is Star Magazine able to continue publishing segments of RH's book? That could only happen if the gaggle of attorneys so far have nothing to stop it from happening contrary to what the sheep are bleating.

louann said...

Kate has said that Jon could have the kids when ever he wanted, maybe he is finally taking the time and doing that.

aggiemom09121416 said...

started with a big display of Kate packing up the RVs, but then strangely enough, Kate and family and security guards and babysitters got on an airplane two days later and flew to South Dakota to meet up with their packed RVs. I wonder if their luggage at least enjoyed the trip? Remember Kate’s quote from the beginning? “I have always dreamed of taking the kids on an RV trip to see this country.” But you flew to South Dakota Kate? Oh, I forgot, it’s a fake reality show and they had already scripted which scenes they would be filming out west. They didn’t want to waste anyone’s precious time with actually driving there in an RV. My bad.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 26665-26672). . Kindle Edition.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate also said everything is "the same" regarding custody. She says there's money set aside for college educations then says there's none. She says she's had no plastic surgery when she sports godzilla sized bazooms. She says she wrote "Multiple Blessings." What to believe when trying to defend her?

franky said...

OFF TOPIC RE: pottty training

My dd at 2 1/2 pooped for the first time out of pull-ups..she was so danged proud she came to me to show me!

dd:maman..I pooped like a big girl!

me: Yeah! I am so proud of you!
dd: come see!

me: Ok!

She led me into bathroom..walking tall (all 2feet of her), I'm so happy..until she walks past the potty into our back hallway and shows me the poop on the floor.

I ask why here?

She said Sloopy (furry brother) pooped and she had to too...so she did.

I had a really hard time trying to not burst out laughing...we did the happy dance (Ravens t-down dance)..
and that was that..next time and forevermore she went on potty.

No stress..no issues..just a great memory wee still laugh about..in private

Khate..you suck

FYI said...

I, for one, was glad to see the ROL article, mainly because it's keeping the story and the book out there. Also, the story about the dogs has nothing to do with Kate's journals-it is an eyewitness account from Robert.

Of course, the enablers will shout "Robert made it up-Jon lied about the dogs-they're just out to get Kate-it all tabloid lies,etc."--BUT it is still keeping the book alive. It's not going to go away.

Admin-I also ask you not to post the picture of the kids. We have confirmation from Berks resident,and there are also tweets from people seeing Jon and the kids yesterday(no pics), we don't need a picture to prove it.



Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a twit said... 84
I, for one, was glad to see the ROL article, mainly because it's keeping the story and the book out there. Also, the story about the dogs has nothing to do with Kate's journals-it is an eyewitness account from Robert.
______________________________________________

Isn't it in the book? I was commenting on how segments in the book are being published via Radar and Star with no attorneys trying to silence them.

aggiemom09121416 said...

“Pretty much everyone leaves me eventually, and, most people can’t take it, but I have to take it. I can’t leave so, I wouldn’t leave if I could.” “This has been the greatest organizational challenge of my life, and other than the exhaustion, the fact that my back hurts, my kids are screaming, my babysitter quit and all that, I actually still strangely enjoy the organization factor. I don’t know why.” “I’m not happy and I shouldn’t be happy. I have always had what we needed. I am masterminding for fifteen people. I am not along as help. Naturally I’m a little busy. The funny thing is we pull out 25 minutes late and it’s always my fault cause they’re in there watching a movie. I went in yesterday, they’re all in the air conditioning on the HDTV and I just went… not one adult came and and asked if they could, is there anything I can do? I mean, that’s not paid help in my opinion, I’m sorry. I feel very bad saying bad things about two of the people I like the most. I’m not trying to say it about them, I just, I don’t know what happened to them. I don’t know if this is like posh trip that they’re usually used to going on, I, I don’t know what it is. We don’t go on posh trips. I struggle from the beginning to the end. I get very little sleep.”

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 26896-26901). . Kindle Edition.

FYI said...

Tweet-le--Yes, it's in the book. What I meant is that ROL/Star is keeping the fact that there is a book out there. I also noticed that they name Robert and the title of the book, but don't say anything about the book being pulled from Amazon. Hopefully, it will pique even more interest in the book.

Star can probably publish segments of the book that don't refer to Kate's journals or emails. Both lawyers letters were about what Kate has written in her journals(trade secrets-infrigment of (Kate's) rights--not about was Robert has seen or heard.

aggiemom09121416 said...

years following Kate on a daily basis. I’ve never, ever, ever seen her go to church, even though I waited at the front gate for hours each Sunday. It never happened. Well guess what? Since there are no photographers to prove otherwise, Kate has taken to Tweeting about how she takes the kids to church on Sundays. Now if it were me, and my show was failing and my other show (Kate + Ei8ht) never even saw the light of day and was thrown on the scrap heap, I’d be in church too, praying, or begging. Whatever it took. So I gave Kate the benefit of the doubt that she was actually going to church, like she Tweeted she was, even if it was only to pray for more fame and fortune. So I started spending my Sunday mornings once again, staking out the Gosselin house, like I’d done so many times before, waiting for her to load up the kids and take them to church. I wanted to believe Kate Gosselin was telling the truth about going to Sunday services. I really did. I went to Kate’s house, early in the morning for eight straight Sundays that I knew she had the kids, since she Tweets that she takes them to church on the Sundays that she has custody. Nope. Never happened. Not once that I saw, even though on some of the same days that I was there, she Tweeted that they had in fact gone to church, even as I was there watching and listening to the kids playing in the yard in front of the house. Imagine that.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 28475-28489). . Kindle Edition.

Vanessa said...

Keep posting the excerpts aggiemom and everyone keep commenting. I agree, keep the story alive.
Now for some snark- Deborah Norville was co-hosting with Anderson yesterday. She reminded me a bit of Khate, same "kind of" look...she's FIFTY FOUR YRS OLD

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a twit, I'm just pointing out to the sheeple, who read here all the time, that contrary to their collective opinion that Robert has been silenced therefore there is a lawsuit, therefore the book is all lies, is wrong.

Winsomeone said...

Off topic, but I have Robert's book on my kindle. At first I turned the wireless off as I was afraid of losing it. Have had the wireless back on for some time now, and the book is still on my kindle. Maybe they figured out what people were doing, and if the wireless is off, you can't buy any books, so left Robert's where it was, and stopped messing with us?

aggiemom09121416 said...

Kate says “I’ve lost most of my driveway trees to the heavy snow.” She lost one tree, up close to her front door. It split in half. The other thirty trees were in perfect condition, until the following week when she had them pruned way back to prevent any future snow damage, like happened to the one, single damaged tree. “Most of my driveway trees” was one tree out of thirty. A big fat lie.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 28611-28613). . Kindle Edition.
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there are so many lies concerning this 'crisis', Kate should be ashamed of herself. What I posted is just one. She lied, lied, lied.
omg

Vanessa said...

@ aggiemom?
That last excerpt is basically her script, did she not say all that in the rv episode? WTF mastermimding for 15 people??? There's a fricken crew there and you disappear with ratclaws for some alone time whenever you want! All you did was "prepare a meal" when they needed some footage of you doing something "motherly"

aggiemom09121416 said...

Franky 83 said
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You mean you didn't have a meltdown? pull your child up by the hair and beat them all the way to their crib? make them stay in their crib until you got control?
WHHAATTTT???

aww..sounds like a good memory,lol. Why Kate sweats the small stuff I have no idea. She also journals that she knows she doesn't play with her kids, one of the twins has asked their dad why mommy doesn't play with them, but Kate just can't find it in herself to change her behavior for HER KIDS.
I've played more candyland,checkers and old maid than I can count (and lost most all of them,lol {anyone else let their kids win all the time??}), but I wonder if Kate EVER played one board game with her kids...well, except that ONE EPISODE.
geez

FYI said...

Tweet-le--good point about Robert not being silenced--I didn't think of that.

In their "collective" minds though they won't even think that or understand that. They'll just spin it to say that the "lawsuit" is against Robert, not Star, and since Star is a "trashy tabloid", they'll print anything.

pink slime said...

Administrator, I have a blog question if you are able to answer it. Since the book was first released, have you noticed a big jump in viewers of this blog, especially new IP addresses? The reason I ask is that it would be nice if mainstream people that previously would not been interested or aware of this blog are now regular readers here. That would give this blog a golden opportunity to spread the message to a much wider audience.

aggiemom09121416 said...

I’m literally sick abt my tree loss. Too expensive2replace trees& they were my favorite part of property!;( Worried abt cold temps overnight   Was that comment about trees being too expensive to replace to get people to send money?? Who knows. What I do know is that there was one seriously damaged tree. And Kate posted a picture of that one damaged tree. And told us that the rest were just like that one. Except for the pictures that I took at the very same time show all of the trees along the driveway in tact. I’m honestly surprised she was this stupid. If the lazy paparazzo would have been interested, he could have easily driven an hour to take the same photos to prove her wrong.   @BarbGilmer @Kateplusmy8 It could be a lot worse kate, at least you all are together! :)   @BarbGilmer I know but feel helpless   This was at 7 pm. I drove home and came back, just to see what was going on around town. This was a normal snowy Saturday night in Berks County. The roads were plowed and fine. All of the restaurants near Kate’s house and her Target shopping center were alive and bustling with crowds. If Kate truly felt helpless, and was worried about her children being cold, or eating cold food, she could have SIMPLY driven her very large SUV down her plowed driveway, through her open front gate, down her completely plowed road to any one of the many hotels in the area, including the Homewood Suites, where Kate used to stay when Jon would come for custody. The same hotel where Tony and the DWTS crew would stay, which is a stone’s throw from about twelve restaurants, one of which is in the same parking lot. The Texas Roadhouse. At the very same time of night that Kate was describing her harrowing experience being ‘snowed in,’ my wife and kids were hosting a Halloween party at our house with many of the kid’s friends and parents there having a great time – ten minutes from Kate’s house on Heffner Road, so life was going on. People were out and about.     @Jules01930 @Kateplusmy8 aww so sorry Kate, I know your disappointed, but it’s the material things u can replace LATER. As long as ur fam isn’t hurt.   @ Jules01930 I know that well but the trees gives usprivacy :)     U hav NO idea what Id do4a HOT coffee! I’m freezing2the core( I’m always cold even in summer)!
Kate, use your cell phone to call one of the twenty restaurants within ten minutes of your house and order takeout. The roads are clear. And yes, you can have coffee delivered too.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 28719-28720). . Kindle Edition.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

Kate is a twit #95, so true. The sheeple all wear blinders or are dumber than dirt or both, "collectively."

KAT said...

She has to lie...she has to keep her shepple interested in her boring life. She wants everyone to believe she has this crazy life filled with exciting mishaps... Kate has to exagerate and lie and put on this fake persona. Only the die hard are still believing it...she's still putting on a show...only this time on twitter...looks like she takes everyday situations and blows them all out of proportion...to keep the attention of those idiot fans....how ridiculous...

aggiemom09121416 said...

And now here comes another of her many, many lies during this ordeal. It’s hilarious how even her Twitter followers, which are mostly teenage girls, can figure out what to do. But not Kate.   @judy5611 @Kateplusmy8 use your grill to cook. Don’t you have a fireplace? Go to Wally world & get a couple heaters. Close off all rooms but one.   @judy5611 roads not plowed. Can’t go anywhere
  Again, at this point, I’m standing in Kate’s driveway, having driven to her house. The roads were perfectly clear and simple to drive on. Even with kids in the SUV or BBB.

  @jules1930 @Kateplusmy8 awfully quiet Kate how u holding up?   @jules1930 lack of caffeine is making me sluggish. Kids still going strong. Humming twinkle twinkle in stereo w flash light clicks 4 beat     @MissouriMamaof2 @Kateplusmy8 theres always starbucks ! Our Target has one in the entrance ! :-)   @MissouriMamaof2 snowed in     Going2charge my phone in car now… B back later.. Don’t panic! We r fine :) (as fine as we can b w/ o lights, heat, hot food& coffee that is lol)     @CJWhodunit @Kateplusmy8 -almost lost our trees and bushes 2, I went out several times during storms with baseball, knocking off snow!   @CJWhodunit I shook branches too… Couldn’t get to them fast enough. Branches broke on treed next to me as I furiously worked that Kate Gosselin went out in the snow and “furiously worked,” please stand up. You are now the stupidest person on the planet. Kate got and stole that idea from her Tweetie, as she does oh so very often.   @CJWhodunit @Kateplusmy8 Oh, okay, the older trees… all of them? From the weight of the snow? We had snowstorms twice last spring-   @CJWhodunit yes, lost at least half of each tree and one is now just a trunk :(     @CJWhodunit @Kateplusmy8 Hopefully there’s some insurance coverage that can help with (tree) replacement. You haven’t had them that long, have you?   @CJWhodunit the trees along driveway (lining the entire driveway) fell. They were planted when house was built-before us!   So Kate just told you there that the trees lining the entire driveway fell. I took photos the next moring showing all trees but one still in tact with only minor branch damage. Kate later had them pruned back, to prevent future damage.   @molly_grant41 @Kateplusmy8 How much snow did you guys get?   @molly_grant41 10-12 inches   The total snowfall ON KATE’S PROPERTY was 5.5 inches when the snow ended. I measured it inside of her fence.



Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 28788-28820). . Kindle Edition.

the lies about this just go on and on and on....

Vanessa said...

Her tweets and lies are her trying to keep a storyline going. Every facet of their"lives" was a possible episode, a narcissists dream come true!
Every little minute insignificant detail has to be blown out of proportion to make it drama worthy.
You know, what came first? The narcissist or reality tv? (she's still is and will always be a child abuser first and foremost)

FYI said...

And let the spin and deflection(It's all Jon's fault!) begin:

msgoody2shoes21
RT @BIOGHAWG: @Kateplusmy8 ♫♪♪ Someone needed money 'cause he had none ♪♪ LOOKS LIKE @GosselinBook SOLD A STORY TO STAR TO PAY BILLS! LOL

msgoody2shoes21
@SchmeckyGirl @kateplusmy8 @gosselinbook Kate didn't want the dogs, JON DID! Jon should've taken the dogs with him since they were HIS dogs

So if Kate didn't want the dogs, how does this one explain why Kate took Shoka back, and now says she considers him "family".

I want to see Milo's spin on this--will she again be requesting a picture of Shoka?

Formerly Duped said...

aggie:

I have played MANY board games and it's something we still do on holidays etc when we are all home relaxing...some were ones my son invented and made all the pieces and boards and rules!We patiently played them.

The one time Kate played games in the basement ( product placement, no time to take Cara to the dr for her ankle- let the nanny do it- wouldn't most parents let the nanny stay home and go to hear what the dr said?) she tried to win them all, and Mady got very upset. I don't know if Kate was hurrying them for bedtime, but she sure took all the fun out of it.

aggiemom09121416 said...

At 4: 15 pm, two SUVs arrived at the Gosselin compound and within minutes, two strangers – an Asian man and a Caucasian woman – began carrying garbage bags filled with plastic Easter eggs around the property and placing them for the upcoming egg hunt. I showed photos that I took of the two strangers to Jon, thinking that the Asian man was a family member or friend of the family but he had no idea who they were. He had never seen them before. If you read that correctly, I’m saying that Kate never even had the plastic Easter eggs at her house and the entire week’s worth of Tweets about her filling Easter eggs was yet another Kate Gosselin lie and a pretty big one if you ask me. The eggs arrived in a large storage tub and were put into Kate’s white garbage bags for the two strangers to place around the property. Kate Gosselin hired a company to set up and orchestrate an Easter egg hunt for her children, while she stayed inside and drank wine. The strangers even took pictures of the
Gosselin kids picking up       Easter eggs so Kate didn’t have to be bothered. I guess it was part of the ‘egg hunt package.’ Kate never once set foot outside of the house to watch the kids during the egg hunt. Not once. During the hour that the two strangers were meticulously placing the eggs, Kate tweeted a photo from inside of the house of a glass of red wine, so we know what she was doing while the kids were once again being entertained by strangers. Drinking. If you were following along at home via Twitter, you would have probably assumed that the egg hunt took place right after church and Kate was unwinding later in the day after all of her hard work. But in reality, the egg hunt only started at 5: 15 pm and was over by 5: 45 pm. Thirty minutes for 1,400 eggs scattered around 23 acres? Kate had a photo up on Twitter of the Easter eggs packed up in the tub by 6 pm.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 30388-30398). . Kindle Edition.

franky said...

Aggiesmom

Nope..no meltdown, but I have suffered from Candyland overload=)

Not to mention those phone calls at work when I am really busy and dd slips in she " dyed her hair, but not the roots" She's a natural platinum blond..I forbid her to dye her rokts..I know she would regret it)

last time she dyed her tips blue..bulk green...went well with the blond


What am I doing wrong that my kid isn't scared of me???


Oh..right..being a loving mother who lets her child explore how she expresses herself within reason.

And yes she peircings..calls me..texts me I mean..lol..but NO tatoos

you sound like a good mom..rumpringas and candyland someday? ROFL

The twit's tweets said...

The Radar Online report about the dogs is interesting in that they're supposedly quoting Star magazine (conveniently owned by the same company as ROL) which is supposedly quoting Robert in the book. Maybe it's ok since it's in RH's own words rather than using Kate's from the journal? Anyway, TY, Radar for keeping the story of abuse and Robert's book in the media!

aggiemom09121416 said...

Now, on to Kate’s gift wrapping, that she Tweeted about non-stop for several weeks. In all of the bags that I brought home from Kate’s house, two trash pickups after Christmas day – just so I wouldn’t miss anything – the ONLY colorful wrapping paper that I found was in a single bag and the pieces were torn up into very small sizes. Kate mentioned that she wraps stocking gifts individually and these pieces would go with that story. Other trash bags were packed with what I know to be blank or unprinted newspaper. The local paper gives away ‘end of rolls’ to anyone who wants it and this is what Kate used to wrap her presents for her children. Blank, plain, discarded, FREE, unused newsprint. (Having worked at the local newspaper, I’ve done this once or twice in the past. I hand-decorated the paper though and always had ribbons, bows and tags.) For Kate’s kids though, there were no colorful bows. No ribbons. No fancy tags. Nothing. Just blank, off-white paper with a child’s name written very small with a black pen. That name was for Kate to keep track as she puts each child’s presents in their own pile in their own designated spot on the floor. It’s very cold. In previous years, I found colorful post-it notes used as name tags for the children’s gifts. Not fancy tags, but at least someone took a second to write a name on them. I guess there was no room in the 2011 budget to buy post-it notes for the kids Christmas presents after purchasing two new vehicles for herself that year. Kate posted several photos online showing some of the kids sitting in front of colorfully wrapped presents, and she posted a photo of the kids at the table with the tree and many colorful presents around it. Those presents however, were gifts that Kate wrapped for other people, including Steve and Gina Neild and their two boys. Most of the colorful presents around the tree were for Kate herself, again, from her Tweeties. There were also wrapped presents for the kids from Kate’s Tweeties, but Kate didn’t let them open them on Christmas day. She chose to put them away and use them as incentives for good behavior. The kids weren’t even allowed to open their presents in the ‘family’ near the tree because Kate didn’t want them to make a mess. Instead, they sat on the floor near the front steps, so that Kate could more easily put the paper in the trash and get it out of the house.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 30765-30766). . Kindle Edition.



aggiemom09121416 said...

indymatt @Kateplusmy8 you must need a lot of wrapping paper lol.  
@indymatt rolls and rolls and rolls and rolls 

(Robert's words:
How about one big roll of blank, off-white newsprint?

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 31087-31101). . Kindle Edition.

KAT said...

I guess its her business if she wants to lie on twitter...its just a little wacky to me...whats the point? To keep her relavent? Must be tiring to keep up this fake life....what she's getting out of it...I don't have a clue! I guess thats what chronic liars do...

I have a brother who is a chronic liar and hes not happy unless hes lying...the funny thing is most of them can't even keep track of their lies...If I accuse him of lying..he will go into a rage...and yes..they do believe their lies. My husband diagnosed my brother as OCD....They need meds and a lot of therapy(years)....and still no guarantee of changing...they're mentally ill...I know its been said over and over....shes a sick woman...

Anonymous said...

WWHL is live in New York.

aggiemom09121416 said...

rumpringas and candyland someday? ROFL
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I'm more of a Sonic diet vanilla coke person, so I'll bring my own, lol.
Candyland sounds pretty good! I also played many a game of twister, but as Kate says, "That is sooooo over!" (my kids would have to help bend me these days)..

oh, speaking of bending, one of my girls always helped me 'bend' the bath towels...(instead of 'folding').
she's 23 now, and we STILL 'bend' the laundry.

Formerly Duped said...

lol 'bending' the laundry: that's cute.

You know, every single excerpt from Robert's book could fill a tabloid story. Who oh why does Kate not sink even lower- why the hangers- on, the gentle treatment by interviewers, a pass from everyone or so it seems ( except us!)Well, the kids know, and Jon, and Robert, and family...when when she really meet her comeuppance?

If anyone tunes into the Andy show, please share !

Dmasy said...

If the animal abuse story picks up traction -- great. Maybe that interest will lead to more attention for the child abuse issues.

I just want Kate to be held accountable. A poster last night raised the question, "What if these were Jon's words?"

My answer -- he would be crucified and forbidden to be near his children until he got intensive counseling.


KAT said...

Too late for me and not intersted enough....need my sleep...4 kids to take of... count em 4..DON'T KNOW HOW I DO IT!!!!!!!!!!! Wheres my freebies? HA!

aggiemom09121416 said...

THE TRASH MEN CONSPIRACY   Another of Kate’s Christmas illusions that I can personally call BS on is the fact that Kate always leaves baked goods outside for the trash men. Again, I’ve been on Gosselin Christmas and holiday trash patrol since 2009 and I only wish she would have left a nice snack out for the trash men. I probably would have eaten it. It gets lonely out there on Heffner Road. I’ve photographed, observed and removed Kate’s holiday trash for three years. There has never once been anything left for the trash men… except trash.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 31257-31264). . Kindle Edition.

(ya know, my dear post-besties, my eyes are strained (no lie!!!) from all this reading and pasting...)
you guys owe me a Target gift card!!!
:)

KAT said...

Aggiemom....Awwwwwwwwww...your cards in the mail...

aggiemom09121416 said...

Thanksgiving, I was camped outside of her front gate working, when a lovely Mennonite woman drove up with a beautifully adorned gift bag for Kate. As a reporter for US Weekly, I needed to know what was inside, so I asked. The nice woman reluctantly showed me the contents. I could see she was disgusted by my presence, being the ‘paparazzi’ and all as she called me, but she was still gracious enough to remove the gift that she brought for Kate to show me. She had hand-carved and painted three beautiful rectangular blocks of wood for Kate to put on her mantle, or a table or shelf. Each block had a single word. “Faith. Family. Friends.” This woman was from Hebron, Kentucky but visiting family in Kate’s hometown of Elizabethtown, PA, and she drove an hour to bring the gift to Kate. She rang the buzzer on the intercom for a few minutes but got no response. Kate was at home and there’s a camera on the intercom box so it’s very possible that she saw the woman dressed in conservative Mennonite clothing, but there was still no response. The woman left the bag inside of the front gate for Kate to pick up the next time she came down the driveway. The next day, I was back at the house doing my job, when I noticed in the trashcan out front, the very same gift bag that the lady left for Kate. I picked it out of the trash and wasn’t surprised to see that the beautiful hand-carved blocks were still in the bag along with the letter from the lady. The envelope was opened and the letter was torn in half and thrown out with the next day’s trash.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 35135-35148). . Kindle Edition.

FYI said...

When the story about the wooden spoon came out, a lot of commenters(not just the enablers) on various articles blew it off saying such things as "I was spanked, and I turned out okay", "she has 8 kids", "spanking is not abuse", blah blah blah. Even The View defended her.

What excuses will they make this time? "She has 8 kids-they're her first priority"? "The dogs must have done something wrong-they deserved to be punished"? or something in a similar vein?

Hopefully, this will wake some people up who may think that if she treats the dogs that way, maybe there is some truth to the stories about how she treated the kids.

One can only hope.

aggiemom09121416 said...

The letter that Kate tore in half and threw away reads:   Dear Kate –   I made this gift not knowing who to give it to. Then it came to me – You! We all need these 3 in our life.   Friends – during times of trouble in one’s life, this is a test of who your real/ true friends are. Family – is next. Unfortunately, some have betrayed you. We can’t choose our family. We are born into one.   Faith – is at the top. Our friends will leave us, our family will disappoint us but one thing for sure, God will never leave us or forsake us.   Kate, Happy Thanksgiving. May the Lord be with you. Take care & God Bless!   S.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 35152-35174). . Kindle Edition.

Dmasy said...

aggiemom -- how about a bit of praise? You are doing a great job! I read the whole book...slowly. It made me feel ill at times. I don't think you are hurting Robert's future sales. I think you are keeping interest alive. Some people who see the excerpts will want to read the entire book.

Vanessa said...

Thanks aggiemom! Keep'em comin'!! What a POS!!
How cruel to put the fans' gifts under the tree and then take them away!! Cupcake anyone?
Wonder if she makes them all sit around her Flintstone feet and ooh & aahh while she opens all her gifts? The extent of this woman's cruelty and sadism is astounding! My God, all the times she went to the media to.defend herself from the "b*tch" rumors, that it's all exaggeration, if you got to know her! She is pure evil

aggiemom09121416 said...

“You have not because you ask not.” – Kate Gosselin   This is nothing new for Kate Gosselin. It’s her lifelong M.O. Remember these emails from the ‘Show Me The Money’ chapter?? This was in 2009 when Kate was a millionaire several times over. I guess that’s how she got that way. She never spends a cent of her own money on anything.   “I know it's the eve of the new year, but I was hoping you would be willing to call in a gift card number to the Wyomissing Gymboree…”   “Oh how I enjoyed my shopping jaunt to the Loft recently!!! I sadly spent the entire gift card quickly and have been back, making my appearances at Lofts in Louisianna, New York City and Lansing, Michigan!!!! The store employees are never shocked to see me seeing as they ALL know that all I wear is the Loft!!!” :) … Wondering if there is a card refill on the horizon?”   “would it be possible for you to supply those stores with a gift card number?”   “I'm over my gift card amount.... help!”  

A millionaire begging for gift cards on New Year’s Eve.  

Do yourself a favor and block those idiots… I’m not asking for gifts??! It’s a haters ploy! –   Kate Gosselin 2.28.12 on Twitter

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 35244-35264). . Kindle Edition.

Vanessa said...

@dmasy I will purchase the book the minute it is once again available, I want to see it alll with my own eyes! This way I can "consider the source", all my doubts about alllll the " rumors" can finally ne put to rest (eye roll)

aggiemom09121416 said...

I wonder how Kate’s beautiful children will feel when they eventually read the following quote from their mother, when they’re old enough to read about their lives online.

  “Asked if Kate had a crystal ball, would she have taken the fertility drugs?”


  “If I could have looked into the future, I would not have done it.” – Kate Gosselin

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 35387-35395). . Kindle Edition.

that's the end of the book. there's a lot of twitter conversations, but I posted one and it jumbled up and was difficult to follow.
When the book comes out again, everyone should purchase the book.
I can't figure out why her fans are so upset about Robert making money from the book...should he have done all this work and documentation for free? (I think it was stated he was donating proceeds to CASA).

Kate, you're toast. YOU ARE SOOOOOO OOOVVVEERRRR.

FYI said...

aggiemom--Target gift cards on the way. Would you also like some @Starbucks and @Coffee_mate gift cards? You probably need a "caffeine energy boost" to keep you awake and alert and full of energy while you complete your task.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Ya know, you guys are gonna say I don't know how to help you anymore if I quit posting excerpts.
:)

there was a chapter on tweets, but they don't paste in a cohesive manner. Some of the latter material is duplicated material from earlier in the book.
I also don't know how much I can post and not get thrown in the pokey ...and I do not look good in black and white stripes, lol...

aggiemom09121416 said...

“Today was another 2 year old rough day! At nap (or even before the official start) they stripped again and got spankings, then after nap, a few more stripped and joel shredded a book as well as a paper shredder would! Then Alexis took the recycling off the counter and the final straw,… Collin pulled my press n seal off the counter and pulled ten feet or more off the almost new roll!!!! 1 I was out of control so I made him go to his room until I could settle!”   “I lost it! I absolutely melted down!!!! I started cleaning it up and called jon to tell him ALL of the news and sobbed so hard that he couldn’t understand me. I told him in so many words that I felt like I may hurt his children etc and so on. Fortunately, I know to send them to their beds when they have been naughty so that they are out of my sight and then I know that they are safe!!!!”

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 7565-7571). . Kindle Edition.

aggiemom09121416 said...

So why hasn’t Jon Gosselin spoken up about the abuse? I don’t know that he hasn’t reported it and I don’t know what conversations he’s had with Kate about it. I don’t even know if he was ever present for the physical abuse. I do know that Jon has had to sign Discovery agreements not to talk about it, and the contract he signed forbids him from talking about it, but Kate took it a step further than a simple non-disclosure agreement with Jon. Kate threatened Jon that if he ever spoke a word about her abusing the kids, that Discovery would sue him for every cent he’d ever make, and she’d make sure he never saw or had any contact with his children ever again. Could or would Kate do either of those things? You can be the judge of that.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 7777-7784). . Kindle Edition.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

aggiemom09121416 said... 122
“You have not because you ask not.” – Kate Gosselin This is nothing new for Kate Gosselin. It’s her lifelong M.O. Remember these emails from the ‘Show Me The Money’ chapter?? This was in 2009 when Kate was a millionaire several times over. I guess that’s how she got that way. She never spends a cent of her own money on anything. “I know it's the eve of the new year, but I was hoping you would be willing to call in a gift card number to the Wyomissing Gymboree…” “Oh how I enjoyed my shopping jaunt to the Loft recently!!! I sadly spent the entire gift card quickly and have been back, making my appearances at Lofts in Louisianna, New York City and Lansing, Michigan!!!! The store employees are never shocked to see me seeing as they ALL know that all I wear is the Loft!!!” :) … Wondering if there is a card refill on the horizon?” “would it be possible for you to supply those stores with a gift card number?” “I'm over my gift card amount.... help!”

A millionaire begging for gift cards on New Year’s Eve.

Do yourself a favor and block those idiots… I’m not asking for gifts??! It’s a haters ploy! – Kate Gosselin 2.28.12 on Twitter

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 35244-35264). . Kindle Edition.

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Kate's a disgusting human being.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Good day! Busy Sunday here! Church, C& M baked 2 bday cakes, now fam weeding project outside! Then dinner 2 make etc. R U tired? Yeah, me 2!:)   And on the day that Kate Gosselin Tweeted those happy thoughts, in March of 2012, the reality was that she was screaming at and berating her little children while they worked all day doing yard work for her … while she jogged around the driveway and sat in the shade. She was downright mean as she was screaming at the children to stay away from her car and move faster and to stop fooling around. The kids were crying but weren’t aloud to stop working. Kate wasn’t just yelling at them, she was being mean and degrading, and treating them like they were animals. She should be more careful about who’s standing nearby watching her abusive behavior.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 7910-7918). . Kindle Edition.

Formerly Duped said...

aggie:

What about an orange jumpsuit? lol We promise to slip you some Rumspringa in the pokey.

That gift-card excerpt really got my goat. Imagine. New year's Eve. The greed. The lack of shame. The much wants more. How selfish and greedy is this woman. Gymboree so the kids look well-dressed as a refection on her. Now they are sometimes unkempt in overly large clothes, messy hair, Old Navy ( ok for the mediocre)

The Loft. Those are nice clothes but she traded that in for the Hooker Nook to shop. But wth- why is she so self-entitled? NYE, too. No words.

kris said...

Thanks for all you posted aggiemom! :)

That story about the Mennonite woman breaks my heart! How thoughtful of her and Kate just discarded it? I'm sure she could have found somewhere in her McMansion to put those blocks. So ungrateful.

aggiemom09121416 said...

September 9, 2006 Today at nap, I heard a thud and knew what it was…. Joel had gotten out of his crib!!! I let him go for awhile, then when I heard him getting into drawers, I went up and spanked him and put him back in…. when nap was really over, I left him in his crib til after we had already gone downstairs…. I want him to know that I am serious and that I will not tolerate crib climbing!!!!! I hope he got the message… I can’t be sure though with his glazy look in his eyes when I talk!!!!!

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Location 8492). . Kindle Edition.
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this is just sick. The kid was ONE. ONE YRS OLD. he's already learned how to deal with his mother's rantings...his tunes out (reference his glazed eyes).
She probably beat those kids the minute they started crawling.
dang, Kate, your kids spent too much time in their CAGES (not cribs). I am sorta surprised they wanted out.
I can also remember an 'episode' where one of the little boys was filmed rocking himself for comfort. That's a classic sign of emotional neglect.

aggiemom09121416 said...

The blocks that were pitched in the trash, Robert took home and gave them to someone in his family that he said would appreciate them.

I can remember old 60 minute segments done on overseas orphanages, and they would show the children rocking themselves for comfort...there would be 100 kids on the floor, just rocking back and forth. it was devastatingly sad.

OrangeCrusher1 said...

Reading the excerpts just truly boggles my mind. Not in the sense that what she said, wrote or did is not believable, but how unhinged can she be, given the major control freak that she is ALL the time, that she let that diary, the harddrive with the e-mails, out of her sight and mind?

Twitter silence since yesterday morning means that the kids were with their dad, no doubt having a birthday celebration out on the town with frozen yogurt. Silence today means she and Skeeve are having some me time in NYC before tomorrow's show, a little hair fry too no doubt. I hope Andy Cohen chews her up and spits her out.

And the e-mails about the gift cards, especially the requests for calling in "refills" - truly sickening. Shameful, really.

aggiemom09121416 said...

aggie:

What about an orange jumpsuit? lol We promise to slip you some Rumspringa in the pokey.
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lol, if I wore orange my kids would disown me...
(U.T.=orange.)
lol
I can rock a maroon shirt like nobody's business!!!!! hahaha

aggiemom09121416 said...

At one point, the boys were sitting on their potties outside in the driveway, because “boys are messy,” according to Kate. The thing that bothered me, once again, happened to poor little Collin. He was trying to go to the potty, and Kate left him sitting in a room by himself; well by himself with a strange man pointing a video camera at him. For the viewing audience, Kate and the crew had a timer on him, to further the humiliation. After more than thirty minutes of sitting, Kate turns the light out on Collin, leaving him alone to sit in the dark on the potty, and telling him, “don’t get up till there’s pee in there. Understand?” Then Kate passive-aggressively taunts Collin by singing “Aaden’s a big boy, Aaden’s a big boy!” because he managed to pee in the potty.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 8540-8545). . Kindle Edition.

aggiemom09121416 said...

July 3 2006 Today I was less than patient with the kids. Sometimes I am so tired that my fuse is almost non existent. It’s not fair for the kids to have an impatient mom and I am aware of what I am doing when I am doing it…. I just wish I could
stop and become patient!   Monday July 17, 2006 When we got home, I filled the pool and even got to sit with my feet in the pool while the girls ‘watered’ my feet with the babies watering pots I got them at kmart!!! I stayed out for 30-45 minutes!!!! (Mady made a comment to Jon and I separately yesterday about why I don’t play with them :( )   Tuesday, September 5, 2006 Today I was officially a horrible mommy. I failed all the way! I was absolutely awful to Collin who was awful to me! He does things just to irritate me! I told him at one point to sit in the corner (one of a million times) and he disregarded me and threw the one gate on the floor! I am too rough with him and the girls see that-- I feel so guilty that I treated him like that that I will set out tomorrow to be a better mommy!   Wednesday, September 20, 2006 Today I was officially a horrible mother! I yelled all day and said things that I regret! I think my kids think I am a terrible witch! I feel like I am too!

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 8849-8867). . Kindle Edition.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 I was hard on Joel the last few days… he says ‘no’ way too often and I must work that out of him!

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 8881-8883). . Kindle Edition.
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I've read her journal entries in this book, and I'd say 98% of the negativity is directed at the boys.
These boys will never know what it means to be loved by a mom. I hope that Jon remarries one day soon and these boys can have a stepmom that loves them and is affectionate with them.

aggiemom09121416 said...

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ugh.

Sheri said...

Thank for the excerpts Aggiemom.

I was a day late to the party and the book was pulled before I could download it.

It's almost better, I think, that I'm reading these little bits at a time and not sitting down with the whole thing.

That would start to weigh pretty heavy very quickly.

Those poor kids.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Tuesday, April 24, 2007 Today was another hair raising day in the Gosselin household!!! Last night, as Jon and I were having a discussion in the garage (important marriage issues that needed to be cleared up!) Cara and Mady came running out to tell us that it sounded as if someone had fallen out of their bed… we looked at each other and decided that it was probably Alexis- as usual- and Jon made the decision to send the girls up to check on her and help her back to bed… we would be right in. About ten minutes later, we came in and couldn’t find the girls and eventually found them coming out of the little kids’ room. When they came out, they told us that it was Leah and she had ‘a lot of snot in her hair’. We thought she had thrown up so Jon grabbed a flashlight and went in and all but screamed when he saw that it was BLOOD everywhere!!!! He grabbed her and I went in and started cleaning up.. it was a lot and it was everywhere! I thought that she had had a bloody nose originally… but when Jon was bathing her, her realized that she had a huge gash on her forehead!!!!! It was about ¾   in long and it was gaping open. Not terribly deep…. so we brought her downstairs in our bed and gave her Tylenol for the pain and debated whether to take her to the ER. We were both so absolutely exhausted that we decided not to (not to mention that I was getting a cold!) We continued to check her gash and it did continue to ooze… In the am, it was still oozing a little bit and I was so torn as to what to do about it so I made a ped appt (I love them so much you know! Yeah right!) Then I canceled it and instead had Sandy Frantz (Amanda’s mom, a trauma nurse) come check it on the way home around 11: 15 from work… she thought it should have been stitched! Oops. I felt bad but I did NOT want her to be tortured!!! And I did not want to take her by myself!!! I just could not do another day of nerve wracking stuff after yesterday and Mady’s tooth!!!! So I hope that I was not being at all selfish when I made the decision with Sandy to get steristrips and once we had cleaned it, we bandaged it that way. I am praying that it heals without a scar and without infection!!!!!   Thursday, May 10, 2007 Today they were actually naughtier than normal. Collin and Aaden continue to try my patience as usual. It is as if they set out to do exactly what I have just asked them not to immediately after I tell them not to! It is soooo frustrating and I can’t say that I am as patient as I should be… in fact, I am plain rough sometimes in response to their constant disobedience!!!

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 8925-8932). . Kindle Edition.



Formerly Duped said...

Agree, mainly the boys and Alexis, Mady here & there. Leah later in the whistle blowing scene. Never Hannah- not that I would want her to suffer too- but what will all this favoritism do to her and the other kids? It was so obvious on the show and also Kate wrote she bonded with Hannah but not the others at first- seems like not at all with the boys, especially Collin and Joel.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I admire any parent who has the willpower to sit back and just let the other parent act like they have 100% custody and 100% of the financial responsibilities and all other responsibilities, and you passed away, when both parents knows full well they have 50-50 and now there are even photographs of their custodial time during the week. I admire any parent who can just ignore the parental alienation no matter how hard the other parent is trying to destroy their relationship with the children they love.

Could I say for sure that's what I would have the willpower to do? Nope.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 Today was another recovery from being sick day… for the kids today, not me. I felt like myself without an overly huge appetite… but unfortunately it wasn’t absent. Mady is on my mind today. It has been almost four weeks since her strange belly pains began. It all started back at school on the day of the magic show in the gym. She began crying and had to leave because she was ‘doing that loud thing’   as annoying as could be Mrs Dolan put it. And since, she has complained every single day about belly pain off and on. She carries a bucket around with her a lot and when it is time for school, she says she is tired and her belly hurts. She has also complained of leg
pain (without evidence of a growth spurt) and   the kicker is that she turns down sweets and offers to go do special things with family and friends!!!!! She told me today when Aunt Jodi asked her and Cara to go to target with her, ‘I want to do fun things but my body just won’t let me!’. That is really when I started to think that this needs attention! She didn’t want to go to the zoo on Monday (we didn’t go anyway because we were all getting this little 24 hour virus). I am perplexed at this point so I made her an appointment for 2 pm tomorrow with dr Iriana and I hope that she doesn’t poo poo me and really takes my concerns to heart. I am praying that we actually get somewhere. I am personally thinking that we are dealing with 1. stress and 2. constipation issues.   We shall see….   Friday June 1, 2007 Yesterday, I had taken Mady to the doctor about her month long belly pain issue. She had said that I should take Mady for an xray to double check her suspected diagnosis of constipation. But Friday when she got up and all day, she was great!

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 8953-8965). . Kindle Edition.

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This is insane. I wonder what it was like for Jon to live with her. I wonder if he saw her beating the kids? They were getting spanked when they were ONE. Who spanks a ONE YR OLD?
Jon should have insisted she get help. Could be one of the reasons he got himself fixed, didn't want to bring any more kids into an abusive household.

Be back in a bit, need to take a break and clear my head.
For those of you that didn't get the chance to buy the book, think about making a donation to Robert's legal fees...

FYI said...

And here's Milo--Defender of all things Kate:

"NOT TRUE! I asked Kate I think back in Sept. abt silly rumors re: Shoka! She..."

.said Shoka was fine, spoiled & the most loved dog! She answered promptly! :)

"Also stated that they did not take Shoka 2the beach because he doesn't do long rides well! :)"

"Pics of Shoka show a healthy,clean well cared for dog! He gets regular groomin & toys!"

When someone asked her "Didn't you ask for a pic?" she replied:

"No I did not...but Deanna chimed in & said she just saw Shoka & he was fine, healthy! :)"

"Ur ridiculous...U state ur opinion as FACT...U know nothin abt it! Shoka is fine! :)"



FYI said...

Some more defense from Milo:

"She doesn't have time 2run out & get Shoka, pose him & take pics 4U every time U demand it! #Silly"

"She has NO reason2lie abt Shoka..if she ever made decision 2give him up..she'd say so!"

Poor delusional Milo.

None are so blind, as those that cannot see.

Blowing In The Wind said...

But there is no such pass for Jon. How could any loving father not only let this go on back also MAKE MONEY OFF OF HIS CHILDREN'S PAIN and his wife's serious problems? It's just a sickening situation all around. And I doubt Khate only started physically abusing Mady after the sextuplets were born.

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How do you know that he did nothing, that he didn't insist on therapy, or seeing doctor for anger management, or whatever...and that she refused? Kate ruled the roost. To see a therapist would have meant that she was not a perfect mother, something she certainly wouldn't have admitted to ANYONE. We don't know what he did or didn't do about her psychological problems.

How did she physically abuse Mady, and when? Was this on an ongoing basis?

"I know I am behind on comments but I have a thought. Does the book say exactly when she got the hormone package thingy?"

He found the receipt, and I'm sure there would have been a date of purchase on it.

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Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


But there is no such pass for Jon. How could any loving father not only let this go on back also MAKE MONEY OFF OF HIS CHILDREN'S PAIN and his wife's serious problems?

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It's just not that simple. One thing I've noticed and that we've heard is that Kate seems more stable and happier when she's doing media or filming or just being famous. Kate as the mother of his children is not going away. The best strategy may have been to try to keep her as stable and calm as possible.

What one person believes is in the children's best interest may not be the sincere belief of someone else who is actually in the home, with the kids, and knows the kids. It's easy for us who don't know him, the kids or Kate to say "you should have just done this!" We have but a glimpse of what people may have done who were around those kids. Until we have a play by play of what was done on a daily basis, it's hard for me to be upset with anyone who was there, even Beth.

Amy2 said...

Angiemom…86,
The quote was from the RV trip that I finally watched last night. I had been reading on this blog how bad Kate was and I just didn’t have the heart to watch the episode for a long time. Well, last night I finally did it.

Oh my, what other bloggers have said in the past about this trip is so true. TLC didn’t edit Kate and if they did edit, what’s on the cutting roo0m floor must be horrendous. Where do I begin. It was Kate all the time, never a concern for anyone or anything else. I loved that toward the end Ashley and Jamie had had enough of Kate’s behavior and didn’t filter their own comments to the camera about Kate. I could go on and go but I’d just be treading over things already discussed here.

Having read Robert’s book and seeing the RV episode, more than ever I can’t take my eyes of this train wreck of a woman. This is just my opinion, but it appears that everyone that comes in contact with Kate is abused in some manner; emotionally, possibly physically. A lot of money will be spent in therapist for those people (including the kids) to come to terms with what they have gone (going) through. There are so many kind hearted people that wanted, and did, help Kate only to have their own lives kicked around a bit by her. How can a person treat another person this way?

At some point in each of our lives we encounter nasty people. I am no exception. But I have never seen someone like Kate that is so devious and manipulative, then hides behind the curtain, projecting the good mother image to the public. She’s about as far a one person can get from actually being a good mother, and a good person.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

"She doesn't have time 2run out & get Shoka, pose him & take pics 4U every time U demand it! #Silly"


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Now therein lies the problem, huh? Shoka is a dog banished to the outdoors. If Shoka were an indoor dog, he would be following Kate around or at her feet all the time and a pic would be no problem. Not to mention, many people who are true dog lovers are constantly taking pics of their dogs. I don't think I've gone more than a few days without snapping a cute pic, if only on my iphone. Why the long stretch of no pics?

And she has plenty of time to tweet, but no time to snap one measly little pic?

For the record I think the Shoka thing is silly and I'm sure he's fine, I hope anyway, but watching the sheeple defense is certainly entertaining.

Berks resident said...

Berks sent me the pic and although I don't think I'm going to publish it, it does indeed show Jon out with the kids, one of the twins and a girl and boy tup that i can make out from the back. Looks like Cara, Leah and Aaden to me. Kate and her parental alienation can suck it. It's a Tuesday.
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Admin thank you so much. Sorry to those of you who were upset that a pic was taken. I think I was just really happy to know they had such fun after reading all the yucky stuff. Perhaps I spoke when I should not have.

Blowing In The Wind said...

Kate's journal...September 9, 2006 Today at nap, I heard a thud and knew what it was

"this is just sick. The kid was ONE. ONE YRS OLD. he's already learned how to deal with his mother's rantings...his tunes out (reference his glazed eyes)."

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If the kids were born in May of 2004, then he was almost two and a half when this incident occurred, still a child in the crib, nonetheless.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Really the only issue Discovery's attorneys appear to have with the book is their trade secrets. I think they're mostly worried about all their contracts splashed all over the place, which in fairness, would be a concern for anyone. He probably shouldn't have posted them all verbatim. Pulling just some of the most important points from them probably would have protected hi while still making the point.

In any case, I truly don't think there is anything any lawyer can do about the stories he is telling as long as they are true. I'm sure Star has their lawyers all over it and even if the other side's lawyers "demanded" they not publish what they have, if they are confident it's true, and it isn't about trade secrets, which the dog story isn't, they may just well have said screw you and published anyway. Good for them.

You can demand and cease and desist all you want, it doesn't mean the other side is obligated to stop. At the end of the day it's only a REQUEST to stop. Until a judge orders Star otherwise, they can do what they want.

A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said...

Berks resident said... 152

Berks sent me the pic and although I don't think I'm going to publish it, it does indeed show Jon out with the kids, one of the twins and a girl and boy tup that i can make out from the back. Looks like Cara, Leah and Aaden to me. Kate and her parental alienation can suck it. It's a Tuesday.
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Admin thank you so much. Sorry to those of you who were upset that a pic was taken. I think I was just really happy to know they had such fun after reading all the yucky stuff. Perhaps I spoke when I should not have.

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Berks, you did the right thing. You gave the Administrator the option of posting it (or not). You have done nothing wrong.

It's good that you witnessed the kids having a fun time out with their dad. More proof that they are living normal lives when they are with their dad, and not when they're with their stifling mother.



Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

I won't publish the pic of the kids. With the tweets also confirming Jon has been seen out, I think that's yet another nail in the coffin and yet another of Kate's LIES debunked.

Sheeple, do you understand Kate lied to you? AGAIN? She said that nothing has changed. Jon still has custody every other weekend. If that's the case what is he doing with his children on a Tuesday??? How this woman has any credibility with you when we've pointed out her lies again and again is beyond me.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Kate has said that Jon could have the kids when ever he wanted, maybe he is finally taking the time and doing that.


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Jon has had the children 50-50 since April. This has been going on six months. They have thus far been able to work out a schedule between them that more or less amounts to 50-50, they try to work it out several months in advance. Apparently Kate is cooperating and this is working. It's not, Jon gets the kids whenever he wants, not at all. It's a COURT ORDER.

Anonymous said...

Oh shootsky, I won't be able to watch WWHL. No, wait, that's a GOOD thing! We are leaving Thurs am to go camping. YAY. With DS, DIL and grandkids. It's the campground's Halloween celebration - so, costumes, decorating campsite and candy, candy, candy. We have pumpkins from our garden to carve and paint. Two heaters are going with us, with our luck it'll be -25 degrees F so we are pretending to be prepared. Gotta go shopping for the S'more supplies and SPAM (a must have when camping, sometimes, for a change, we'll go all out and have Treat). Oh, I can't forget cheesy poofs!

Good weekend thoughts for you all.

anger issues kate said...

Aggiemom: doesn't that just burn yea, that Kate was more concern about the floor, being wet, than the chemical, on the kids. And who leaves buckets of water on the floor, when you have little people in the house. Did Kate have any sense on how many little ones drown in buckets of water, even toilets, geez, Kate was not big on safety.

Geez, I'm a safety nut when it comes to my pets, more than Kate ever was to her kids. Shame on Kate!

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Yes, her tweets match up PERFECTLY with what we know is going on.

Her last tweet was a day ago, about having a rough A.M. Jon probably picked the kids up from school in the afternoon and has them now.

Not a PEEP out of her since then. The kids are out of her hair, she's off to NYC to be pampered and get her mug on T.V., she has no use for her fans or twitter.

But will she give credit to Jon for being with his children and caring for them just as much as she is, nope.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Is this Andy Cohen thing tonight? Or Thursday night? I'm getting confused.

Maggie said...

Blowing In The Wind, the receipt was dated 3 weeks before she shot herself.

Maggie said...

Thursday is the day of the show.

anger issues kate said...

Admin: ever notice how Kate never tells or announces that she is gonna be on some show or an event. It's like it's a big secret. From who? and why? Does Kate really think she has a hugh following, and that she will be mobbed? She really lives in LA LA land.

Formerly Duped said...

Mady was abused with the Spanker and I imagine a lot, since she is 'as annoying a can be' and Kate mentioned this often on the show. Her poor belly pains- ignored for so long. Kate knew she had constipation- if she knew this and saw Mady forgoing fun b/c of pain, go to the dr. I think all the kids will have constipation issues due to their potty training- inconvenient to Kate to use a bathroom- hold on...a month.That's sheer neglect & laziness.Also Mady was familiar with Kate spanking as she said on a talk show that a tup should be punished this way. May also explain why she hit the tups a lot and was aggressive.

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

In any case, I truly don't think there is anything any lawyer can do about the stories he is telling as long as they are true. I'm sure Star has their lawyers all over it and even if the other side's lawyers "demanded" they not publish what they have, if they are confident it's true, and it isn't about trade secrets, which the dog story isn't, they may just well have said screw you and published anyway. Good for them.
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Which is why Robert had the lie detector test.

Anonymous said...


I wonder if the silence has to do with the barrage of emails that the shows get when we know she will be on. It seems VERY odd that a publicist would let a client NOT advertise that she will be on XYZ show. It doesn't make sense to go to the trouble of getting her on, and then not let people know ahead of time.

heather

Anonymous said...

Berks resident #152 -

Nah, I'm not upset you sent a photo to Admin, or that you reported what your friend saw.

I appreciate your local PA insights!

Twittering And Twattering said...

xxx
@MiloandJack @mylilabbster @Kateplusmy8 Is Kate concerned with your obsession with her?

miloandjack
@Kateplusmy8 Well, I have 2b on my way...4inquirin minds...Kate knows WHO I am & WHERE I am! No need 2b concerned abt lil ole me! :)

miloandjack
@jenzo4 @msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Whatever the future holds..rest assured Kate loves her kids more than life & will do what's best4them!

Well, at least Kate knows who Milo is and where she is! I'm sure this makes Kate's life complete and now she can sleep at night.

Milo is on a rant defending Kate and her treatment of the dogs. I guess it's clear that nothing is ever going to change her mind and she's too far gone at this point to be convinced of anything else. This really makes me wonder if she's a paid employee or one of Kate's pr people. Who could be this delusional?

Formerly Duped said...

It is nice to hear the kids get out sometimes, with Jon, since they spend so much time in isolation at Kate's.

I remember on the show the kids rotated who would go along on chores with Jon but I don't recall Kate taking them anywhere except with Jon or once two of them to the eye dr. (I think she almost wanted surgery to correct Collin's droopy eyelid for appearances sake- Can't have any imperfections, ya know. The dr disagreed and she was quite rude to him)

Blowing In The Wind said...

Blowing In The Wind, the receipt was dated 3 weeks before she shot herself.

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Maggie - someone asked if it was possible that the purchase was made when she was having marital problems and thought that maybe Kate was going to try for another child (or children) to cement the marriage. My point was that the receipt would have showed that the purchase was made before the tups were born.
What was the date on the receipt?

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...


Admin: ever notice how Kate never tells or announces that she is gonna be on some show or an event. It's like it's a big secret. From who? and why? Does Kate really think she has a hugh following, and that she will be mobbed? She really lives in LA LA land.

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Yes, we've talked about this a lot. She never promotes anything. She said once it was because of safety but they've already advertised her as on the show so what's the difference??? The cat is already out of the bag.

Possible theories: Laziness, she doesn't really care about twitter except when she needs it for feed, she thinks she's above promotion and that some measly publicist should handle that, she's an idiot who doesn't realize what she should be doing as a celeb when it comes to promotion.

It is my firm belief that her poor promotion skills are quite a big factor in her inability to get anything going of substance. It's so crucial as a celeb to be able to know when and how to promote. Celebs are in many ways used cars salesmen. The best ones are able to sell.

Blowing In The Wind said...


miloandjack
@jenzo4 @msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Whatever the future holds..rest assured Kate loves her kids more than life & will do what's best4them!

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This is what is so creepy with such an obsession. The fan is convinced that she knows what the object of her affection thinks, knows, believes, etc...as she inserts herself into the celebrity's life and had deluded herself in believing that she knows all of her thoughts and desires.

The fact is that Milo never met Kate, has no idea what goes on behind closed doors or in Kate's personal life. I just don't see any good coming out of this. Something's gotta give sooner or later. We've seen this over and over again with other celebrities and fans, the snapping of fans either because they've been ignored or because they are no longer satisfied with an internet relationship and seek out a physical closeness that involves actively stalking the other person.

I just hope that Milo really is a ruse, a paid person who continues this charade all in the name of tweeter attention/Kate promotion.

chefsummer #Leh said...

So not only Kate is an abusive mother but a neglectful one.

It seems like she get worse and worse in Roberts book.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Milo is really concerning me. She really thinks she is some specially anointed head fan with some kind of special relationship with Kate. This is how so many obsessed stalkers start out, thinking they and their celeb have something special than all the other fans. This is TEXTBOOK folks.

If Kate ever grows tired of her, she could snap. Kate let this go WAY too far.

chefsummer #Leh said...

miloandjack
@jenzo4 @msgoody2shoes21 @Kateplusmy8 Whatever the future holds..rest assured Kate loves her kids more than life & will do what's best4them!
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If this is how Kate loves her kids.

God forbid that she shows them hatred one day.

Realitytvkids.com ~ Administrator said...

Even assuming Kate emails her, that still tells her no more than what we know. Just because Kate tells her things doesn't make it true. Oh and Kate, please stop emailing her, for everyone's safety.

Milo fails to realize she knows no more about Kate than we do. For her to assume that SHE knows what really goes on behind closed doors and rest assured Kate is a wonderful mother just because Kate emailed her, is truly delusional and troubling.

Oh, also Milo? Abusive parents usually love their children. Love them like crazy. Few abusive parents abuse their kids because they hate them--it's usually due to drugs, mental illness or impairment, poor choices, anger management problems, poor parenting skills, etc. This is why a surprising amount of parents are actually able to take classes and learn not to be abusers. It is not uncommon, as it was for Kate, for an abusive parent to turn around and hug their kid and sincerely tell them how sorry they are right after they beat them to a pulp. In fact I even think Kate loves her kids, at least on some level. Does not mean she didn't beat the crap out of them. You have such a poor understanding for what child abuse really is. Go read some literature. Study up.

Nancy said...

With surprising clarity and forsight people here have been able to determine Kate's previous and future behaviour without the benifit of actually being anywhere near her... having said that I hope to god that what is being said about this Milo person is not correct for not only Kate's sake but her children and Jon but I am begining to believe it won't end well

amyf said...

Remind anyone of 4th of July a few years ago?

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=447184958657772&set=a.321337967909139.73028.317405128302423&type=1&theater

Anonymous said...

Admin. You scare me when you say Kate is most stable when Kate is in front of a camera and doing Hollywood things.

Kate ABUSED her little kids, dog cruelty when they already had a show! That was probably the time when her audience still liked her!! If you are correct she must be hell to live with now that she is in the gutter with out a daily camera in her face!

Berks, exposing Kate for her silence in not giving Jon credit in caring for the kids and doing things that kids love to do is a good thing!

( Let's Throw Tomatoes )

Rhymes with Witch said...

She really thinks she is some specially anointed head fan with some kind of special relationship with Kate. 175

She certainly does.

MiloandJack tweeted:

Kate is so busy rt now...her head is spinning I'm sure. Lots that U & public don't know or see!

Mel said...

Admin: ever notice how Kate never tells or announces that she is gonna be on some show or an event. It's like it's a big secret. From who? and why? ...

Remember Milo's tweet? That people help poor widdle Katie stay under the radar until she gets where she's going?
And Kate responded with: Yes, for my safety.

Who's going to to anything to her anyway? Most people don't know who she is, the ones who do don't care, and anyone with personal experience with her wants to stay far, far away from her.

FYI said...

Kate can't even promote CC's contest that raises funds for the Komen foundation. She made ONE tweet the same day that CC had a post about it on their website(Oct.1). She's running in NYC this Saturday--The contest runs until Oct. 31, yet she can't be bothered to even promote something for a worthy cause.

Yet, she finds time to tweet @Coffee_mate.

I also noticed that yesterday, Kate didn't even do her daily CC tweets about the latest bargain.

Mel said...

Some more defense from Milo:
"She doesn't have time 2run out & get Shoka, pose him & take pics 4U every time U demand it! #Silly"


Uh, Milo? Weren't YOU the one who was asking for a Shoka photo?

Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said...

I remember Milo's tweet about Kate doing special things for her above what any other celebrity would do.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Blowing In The Wind said... 153

Kate's journal...September 9, 2006 Today at nap, I heard a thud and knew what it was

"this is just sick. The kid was ONE. ONE YRS OLD. he's already learned how to deal with his mother's rantings...his tunes out (reference his glazed eyes)."

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If the kids were born in May of 2004, then he was almost two and a half when this incident occurred, still a child in the crib, nonetheless.
October 10, 2012 8:33 AM
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I stand corrected. oopsie!
(blaming it on Kate, I know it's not my fault)

AuntieAnn said...

Sheri said... 141
Thank for the excerpts Aggiemom.
I was a day late to the party and the book was pulled before I could download it.
It's almost better, I think, that I'm reading these little bits at a time and not sitting down with the whole thing.
That would start to weigh pretty heavy very quickly.
Those poor kids.
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Yes, those poor kids and yes, it does weigh heavily on the mind. I shouldn't have read the whole book all in one day - it was almost too much to digest all at once. Afterwards I wanted to distance myself from her toxicity. I'm 2500 miles away and still too close.

The journal entries are like something out of a Stephen King novel. She is a nightmare of a mother, wife and now ex-wife and she was probably a real pain in the ass of a daughter too. And she wonders why 'everybody leaves me'. Well figure it out Kate.

Kate's Cart said...

The Kindle Book can be converted to a pfd file and emailed.

http://www.ebook-converter.com/?id=35

FYI said...

Milo asked Kate for pictures of Shoka several times, but she now denies she did.

And typical for Milo, she has deleted those tweets. However, on Sept.15, I posted here "And speaking of pictures, I notice Milo is still asking for a picture of Shoka-she asked twice yesterday."

On Sept. 17, this tweet was posted on here:

MiloandJack @Kateplusmy8 Kate...please post pic of Shoka in his "boxer shorts" so we can move 4ward! LOL

So,yes, she definitely asked for pictures of Shoka.

Bluebird said...

I finished reading the book last night and I can't say how bad I feel for those poor boys, Collin especially. Kate is so cruel and unforgiving she makes my skin crawl. How can a mother be so insensitive to her childrens' wants and needs. I can't understand how TLC employees could just keep on filming knowing that the chidren were abused (physically and emotionally).

Maybe it's a good thing the lawyers are looking at the book, I'm hoping Kate will get a good scare. Maybe, just maybe, one day she'll be in a courtroom trying to defend herself, 'well, Mr. Judge, they didn't know how to help ME! ummm, they did everything possible to make ME angry, ummm, what else could I do? ummm, honestly, no one understands ME nor MY feelings, ummm, it's just so hard being a mother to 8, yes, Mr. Judge, 8 children, umm, basically, I'm a great mother it's just that they make ME do these things, ummmmm'.

The Bitter End said...

Rhymes with Witch said... 181
She really thinks she is some specially anointed head fan with some kind of special relationship with Kate. 175

She certainly does.

MiloandJack tweeted:

Kate is so busy rt now...her head is spinning I'm sure. Lots that U & public don't know or see!
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Well...there was "Lots that U & public don't know or see!", but then Robert Hoffman shared Katie Irene's journal with us. Now we've got a pretty good idea of what is known and seen.

Mel said...

Just out of curiousity...
Why is that Kate isn't praying to God to help HER to walk in obedience to HIM?

She's just praying to God for him to do things for HER. At no point is she praying to God asking how can she best glorify him. Let her light so shine and all that.

Her light not only doesn't shine, it's completely out. And she's not happy unless everyone else's light is also dark.

dee3 said...

I'm reading some of the excerpts in the comments here....and have noted that apparently, 2 of the children had constipation problems....both Mady and the little boy tup who Jon had to dis-impact out in the van while Kate was in a store purchasing beds, IIRC.
It's making me wonder if these children were given adequate time to go to the bathroom during filming.
Is it common for young children to have constipation? My 3 sons never had a problem with this.
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Also...regarding all the journal entries about the naps and making the tups stay in their cribs, etc.
When my children were toddlers, I set up a play-room with several toy-boxes filled with their toys and just let them play. Granted, I had 3, not 8.....but just from my past experience, I would have never made wide-awake children stay in their cribs, especially if they were able to crawl out of them. In fact, as soon as they WERE able to crawl out of their cribs, they were switched to low children's beds. Trying to MAKE them stay in their cribs or their beds, once they had woken up....would have been an exercise in futility.

And the multiple toy boxes were great because for clean-up, all we had to do was to gather up the toys and toss them in the toy boxes. And if memory serves me, my boys loved to keep the boxes that the toys came in. Usually they were action figure boxes (I had all boys) because on the backs of the boxes, it would list all the other action figures available and they would sit there and tell each other which action figures they wanted to get next (ie: teenage mutant ninja turtles, He-Man, etc.)

Why in the heck she would force a bunch of toddlers to stay in their cribs after they'd already woken up (either in the morning or after their naps)...especially when they were physically able to crawl out of them....is just beyond me.
AND...items like crayons, etc....were kept out of reach in our house unless the boys were being supervised. I never had writing on the walls because I made sure that items like that were not within reach. Seems like Kate didn't really child-proof her house or set it up in such a way that these things that made her angry didn't happen.

It seems like she was unable to really grasp that these were toddlers and didn't set up the house and set-up a playroom for them that would be appropriate for their age. It was as if she refused to accept their limitations....and just left stuff out that normal toddlers would get into....and end up getting spanked and abused for (by Kate). As if in her mind, she expected them to think and behave like adults....and to be able to know what she "needed" and wanted. When my sons were toddlers.....I made sure there weren't things within reach that I didn't want them to reach. Easy-peasy.
But I knew they were toddlers and didn't expect them to act any older than they were.....and I never needed to hit them and never did.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Saturday, June 23, 2007 Lord help Jon and I to be able to let go of our frustration and ugliness and help our words to each other be kind patient and loving. Take away our ugly parenting and replace it with LOVE!!!!!   Monday, July 16, 2007 Today is quite a rough day! I am being horrible to my kids, and they have also been horrible!   Tuesday, July 17, 2007 When I came up from nap, I found a site that only a burglar should make!!!! The one tall dresser was toppled, lying on its’ face. The lamp was scattered, the light bulb shattered with shards of glass everywhere. In addition to that, there was a two foot long and one foot high section of the wall that was peeled down to the brown part (into) the drywall!!!! Those pieces were strewn everywhere in the room. Then the ‘locked’ box of lotions and potions was opened and on the floor with the contents smeared everywhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How do you like this day? This all happened while I was downstairs listening on the baby monitor thinking ‘oh well, if they aren’t going to sleep, at least they are playing nicely.’

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 9002-9017). . Kindle Edition.

Amanda, Iowa said...

My gosh, that Milo, who or what does she think she is...the Cript-keeper?

aggiemom09121416 said...

Driving the wrong way on a one way street. Driving with no headlights at night. Driving at very high speeds. Swerving across three lanes of traffic to exit… at high speeds Making U turns across two lanes of traffic. Speeding through residential neighborhoods. Running stop signs. Running red lights. Driving while talking on the phone and drinking coffee. With her kids in car.   I have personally witnessed Kate Gosselin doing all of the things listed above.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 18952-18966). . Kindle Edition.

aggiemom09121416 said...

When I was in Las Vegas with Jon, I took a call from one the paps telling me to please pass on to Jon that they followed Kate at 110 mph that day with three of the sextuplets in the car. They didn’t report her or release their video. They only wanted me to tell Jon so maybe he could talk to her about it. When even the low-life paparazzi are concerned for you, you have a problem.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 18986-18988). . Kindle Edition.

aggiemom09121416 said...

Jon and Kate Gosselin PA Reporting October 2009 … Next stop was the dry cleaners in Wyomissing. It was very brief and no pictures were taken because of the location and it being a drive-thru dry cleaners. Now is when the fun began though. After doing a U-turn on the busy street, Kate got on the gas and began her quest to lose the paps so she could leave Reading for wherever she goes when she’s away from home. The paps were on her as she went 60 in a 35 speed limit until Kate went into a residential neighborhood and was racing around corners and up and down tight, tree-lined streets where children were playing. The three-car paparazzi caravan backed off at this point and Kate made her getaway.

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 19051-19054). . Kindle Edition.

aggiemom09121416 said...

front of her car. He got the hint and backed off. When leaving the Dunkin Donuts lot, she pulled a very dangerous move, cutting into oncoming traffic so the paps and I couldn’t get right out behind her. Horns were blowing but we kept up pursuit. She got on the highway heading ...toward Lancaster and after a very speedy 80-95 mph chase, we ended up at the kids school in Lancaster. … Repeat the 90 mph car chase home, but this time with a child in the car.   Jon and Kate Gosselin PA Reporting December 2009

Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 19140-19148). . Kindle Edition.

Anonymous said...

Treet, not Treat- I'd make a terrible grifter

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