"We did the best we could."
Chris Cuomo's moving interview with Aaron Fisher, 18, otherwise known as "Victim Number 1" is so important we thought it deserved its own post.
How did teachers, principals, police, investigators, prosecutors, Pennsylvania's Office of Children, Youth and Families (CYS), therapists and two grand juries let Jerry Sandusky continue to molest children for three years after Aaron first reported the abuse to them? Chris Cuomo tries to find out why, and hold people accountable."Why are you moving so fast now when you moved so slowly when Aaron needed your help?" Cuomo shouts to a school principal running away from him. Karen Probst, mandated by law to report any abuse, instructed Aaron to go home and think about it when he first disclosed the abuse to her. She is still principal.
Will anyone ever be held accountable for the child abuse and child labor violations perpetrated against the Gosselin children for years? According to Robert Hoffman, he reported the child abuse allegations to CYS twice. Is this the best they could do?
Aaron's book Silence No More: Victim 1's Fight For Justice Against Jerry Sandusky is available for purchase on Amazon.com
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@Kateplusmy8 not 2 be corny but when u were gone made me realize how blessed I am to be able to be your tweetie friend, dream come true
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Absence makes the heart grow fonder, but it's all one-sided. Kate never even thanked her for the gift that she sent.
"Why?"', you've made your points (under various names) over and over, ad nauseum. What exactly is it you want?
I'm not Al or Polly, or any of Kate's fans. I'd just like you all to answer the questions and not do everything to ignore or change the subject. Is that so hard? Why??
Remona Blue said... 2
Hi Remona. :)
You'll have to bear with me because I'm so confused by twitter just in general. Which one was trying to goad Kate into accusing Robert of lying?
zzzzzzz or the one he/she responded to?
I can't figure out which one is the fan and which one is the non-fan.
Earlier in the thread, someone referred to "Gosselins Go Dutch"(sorry to not give proper credit - can't find comment). I had never seen that episode so had a look. Wow, Kate is certainly correct about editing. Just not in the way she wants people to believe. When one of the girls was licking her hand & Jon wanted her to stop, he pushed her hand down & pushed her quite roughly back into the stroller. That made it into the episode. But little one keeps licking her hand & Kate leans over her. Then...editing! Next shot is little one crying hysterically & holding her hand in pain. Did they edit out Kate smacking her hand? Then a bit later, Mady is in the stroller & crying. Sounds like she says 'you hurt me'. Kate tells Jon to handle Mady and Mady is crying hard & rubbing her side under her arm. Did they edit out Kate pinching her? I'm sure this was all discussed ages ago since Admin & regulars have always been vocal about the bad behaviour exhibited by these horrible people. It's just shocking to watch these old episodes knowing what we know now from her journals.
WHY?? said... 6
I'm not Al or Polly, or any of Kate's fans. I'd just like you all to answer the questions and not do everything to ignore or change the subject. Is that so hard? Why??
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Mainly because you're making unproven accusations. It's very difficult to answer a question about something that's not been proven in the first place. Where are you getting the info to back up the accusations in your questions? Robert has written that Jon had nothing to do with the book and that he took the hard drives that Kate threw out in the trash....so until proven otherwise, I have to assume that's where he got them.
Do you have proof of what you're claiming Jon did...in terms of providing Robert with the info on the hard drives?
dee3 said... 3 WHY??...198
PatK said... 5 "Why?"', you've made your points (under various names) over and over, ad nauseum. What exactly is it you want?
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I think THIS might be the answer!!
Jackie said... 200 WHY!! Why won't you use your real names Al and Polly???!
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WHY?? said... 6 I'm not Al or Polly,
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Well, you SAY you're not Al or Polly, but I haven't seen any proof beyond a reasonable doubt!!
Lots of wishful thinking going on about the Hoffman book. I guess if it gets questioned
enough that will automatically relegate it to a pack of lies. They wish it away by hammering the author and saying he hacked, stole, embellished, rewrote and otherwise created a fraudulent book. That has to be it, darn it. It can't be that he's telling the truth. No!
When you get desperate, logic takes a dive and wishful thinking is your strongest weapon.
fidosmommy said... 11
Lots of wishful thinking going on about the Hoffman book.
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Lots of 'sour grapes' from certain quarters, too!!
Meagler said... 109
Even though she filmed that Arm/ab roller commercial...did it even go anywhere? and THAT was when she would have been more excepted in the media industry......no one wanted to see her then
She didnt lie that time, but only gave hints. " You'll NEVER guess what I did today", and " my arms are so sore" " Soon you will all see it"
Sure I think we got to watch the video, but where was it ever aired? Anyone know?
Meagler, I live in New Zealand and saw it here once. Odd because the shows have never aired here and nobody knows who she is.
fidosmommy said......11
You know, the other thing is....the book is about what KATE did. If there is proof that Jon did the same thing....they should go, spend years collecting proof and write a book about that. How does whatever Jon did or didn't do....mitigate what Kate did?
It's like the kid getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar and when caught, claims the brother took one too. Well...I'm talking to YOU...and not about your brother right now.
One can raise all sorts of peripheral issues...what did Jon do? Where did Robert really get the info? etc. and all sorts of other distractions and obfuscation....but so far, nobody from Kate's camp has denied that the actual info is incorrect or that Robert lied about what's IN the book.
Yeah, still no answers I see. It's sad that if you truly believe something you can't answer the questions.
Haily Glassman said Jon hacked into Kate's computer. That was about the same time Kate went to court and stopped letting Jon on the property.
If Jon had reported Kate to CPS do you think he'd keep that quiet? With all the publicity going on with the G family he'd surely know that his case for the kids would be detrimental to Kate and beneficial to the kids if it were made public, and yet he didn't do that.
I think RH's book can be seen as just reiterations of all the speculation on the anti-Kate blogs. There has been no proof. He says he has proof but hasn't shown it.
If you are certain about things why won't you answer the questions?
Lots of wishful thinking going on about the Hoffman book. I guess if it gets questioned
enough that will automatically relegate it to a pack of lies. They wish it away by hammering the author and saying he hacked, stole, embellished, rewrote and otherwise created a fraudulent book.
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It's called shooting the messenger, and I guess they have nothing else to shoot. It's all they can come up with.
WHY?? said... 15
''If you are certain about things why won't you answer the questions?''
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WHY? I'm certain you're Al or Polly, and have no intention of giving you any answers to any of your questions.
@WHY??
I'll tell you what....you believe Hailey Glassman and I'll believe Robert Hoffman.....and let the chips fall where they may.
Did Hailey Glassman say Jon gave hacked computer info to Robert Hoffman?
And what time frame are you referring to regarding Jon contacting CPS?
Are you referring to back when TLC had him under a gag-order and were threatening to sue him? If I recall, Jon wasn't saying a whole lot of anything back then.
And his case? What case? His custody case? Why would he tell the public if he contacted CPS? The public would not be the ones deciding custody. For all we know, he did report it and the judge was aware of it. We have no idea what happened.
You can speculate and we can speculate. All I know is that the book is due to be re-released soon and we will see what happens. Until then we can continue to speculate ad nauseum but none of us knows what really happened yet....and may never know.
The bottom line is....why should anyone here have to answer ANY questions? We have no power to affect what happens in Kate's life or in Kate's future. The number of people who comment here are but a mere speck in the bucket compared to the numbers of people in the country whose opinions would matter, en masse, for Kate to be successful on TV again. Our numbers here would have no effect on that. We state our opinions and are entitled to them. What happens to Kate is mainly dependent on Kate....not us.
Why does it even matter to you what we think?
I'll try again.
One question for WHY??
Do you think Kate DIDN'T write the journals in RH 's book'?
WHY?? said... 15
A question for you--Have you read the book?
I came upon this quote today. It seems so appropriate to the topic.
"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance my deride it, but in the end, there it is."
~Winston Churchill~
Thank you to everyone here for standing up for the truth.
Susan
WHY sounds like Al, or maybe Sport.
Very valid points. But the Jon-hate is too strong to take this poster seriously.
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
@deannatweeting I know... Was so fun and so beach challenge-like wasn't it? :) are you slightly rested yet? I'm still chasing my tail!
I wonder if Kate could have been participating in some kind of a beach challenge? There are marathons with this title.
Charlie said... 13
Meagler said... 109
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Since your names don't sound familiar to me, let me say HI to Charlie and Meagler. :)
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New Hampshire said... 21
I came upon this quote today. It seems so appropriate to the topic.
"The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance my deride it, but in the end, there it is."
~Winston Churchill~
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Great quote!
This reminds me of a time I got into a big heated argument about politics with someone on the internet.....and later, I smacked myself in the head because for a minute there, I'd gotten carried away and saw this person as somehow representing the entire voting populace.
The reality is....even if I changed my mind about Kate (which I would highly doubt)....1. that wouldn't change anyone else's mind here and 2. who the hell cares what I think anyway?
I happen to believe Robert Hoffman....but in the big scheme of things, do I think he even gives a flying fluck? No...why should he? I'm just one person......who has an opinion and enjoys discussing it with like-minded people here.
And I certainly don't think I'm powerful enough that my one opinion has caused the public to turn against Kate....to have caused almost all the comments following almost every article out on the internet about Kate to be mostly critical. How the hell could I have possibly done that? The only person who turned the huge majority of the public against her....is Kate.
And I had absolutely nothing to do with Robert Hoffman's book....I just hope I get to read it.
Is there a blog that dissects Jon's behavior out there we can guide this person to? I bet he
or she would find just the answers he/she seems to be looking for. The answers here won't do, clearly. So, let's help him or her find a new
place to make such meaty inquiries. With answers that meet approval no less.
WHY, you might want to read Al Walentis' book if you are interested in seeing Jon get a smack.
Of course, if you yourself wrote any part of that book, you already know about that.
Did Hailey really say Jon hacked the computer? Was this when she was media-whoring after their relationship ended?
Double-talk, deflection, ignorance...and if that fails just resort to insults. You all don't want the truth, you just want to carry on the agenda of hatred for Kate.
You don't have to answer to me but maybe just ask yourselves one question: if RH is all about the kids, how does this book help them? Obviously "exposing" Kate isn't doing anything to change things. What it is doing is giving RH his 15 minutes. Would you want your claim to fame to be a book of slander and lies that destroyed a woman?
Would you want your claim to fame to be a book of slander and lies that destroyed a woman?
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Sorry, not buying it. This book will not destroy Kate. It is merely bringing to light how Kate behaved. If she's "destroyed", she did it to herself.
PatK said... 26
Did Hailey really say Jon hacked the computer? Was this when she was media-whoring after their relationship ended?
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The only thing I've read that Hailey said in a recent interview was that Jon and Kate had already been separated for a year when they hooked up. I've not read anything about computer hacking.....but might be out there and I just didn't see it.
But....if he did hack Kate's computer during this time period and I had to make a bet?
My bet would be that he was looking for proof that Kate and Steve had been having an affair and trying to find out how long it had been going on before she told him to hit the pike.
WHY?? said... 27
''Double-talk, deflection, ignorance...and if that fails just resort to insults.''
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I echo what fidosmommy said... 25
WHY, you might want to read Al Walentis' book if you are interested in seeing Jon get a smack.
Of course, if you yourself wrote any part of that book, you already know about that.
So "Why?" is saying RH's book is slander and lies?? Kate didn't write those words in her journal? Wow.
WHY?? said... 27
''Would you want your claim to fame to be a book of slander and lies that destroyed a woman?''
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Kate's own words in her own journal are KK's own words. The truth can't be sued for either lies or slander! Robert had the courage to expose how horrible KK is. If KK thinks they are lies, will she or her lawyers DARE to call him a liar? The fact that she hasn't proves that she and her lawyers know how much worse it would be if Robert releases the 90% of his material!!
It wasn't Hailey who said Jon hacked into Kate's e-mail account.
It's was one of the nannies Jon supposedlly slept with.
Stephanie Santoro, who was also allegedly romantically involved with Jon at one point, told Radaronline, "Jon told me that he pretty much hacked into everything of Kate's that he had access to. Her online banking, that he had a trace on every single one of her emails so anytime she would get an email he would get a copy of it!"
Why would Jon need to hack into Kate's computer if he had access to it?
http://www.hollyscoop.com/jon-gosselin/report-jon-gosselin-hacked-into-kates-email.html
WHY?? said... 27
Double-talk, deflection, ignorance...and if that fails just resort to insults. You all don't want the truth, you just want to carry on the agenda of hatred for Kate.
You don't have to answer to me but maybe just ask yourselves one question: if RH is all about the kids, how does this book help them? Obviously "exposing" Kate isn't doing anything to change things. What it is doing is giving RH his 15 minutes. Would you want your claim to fame to be a book of slander and lies that destroyed a woman?
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Why am I even taking the bait here? Probably because I'm half-asleep and my common sense has flown out the window.
Also...possibly because I assumed this was just a standard fan....but if it is Al or Polly it would be more interesting.
First...who insulted you? I don't see any ad hominem attacks made upon your person. Is not agreeing with you insulting you?
Second....you call the book "slander and lies" and IMO, that is up for dispute. And right now....I'm kinda hanging my hat on the fact that so far, nobody from Kate's camp has called the info in his book lies and nobody has sued him for slander/libel/defamation, etc.
So as far as his claim to fame....that's still to be seen.
And as far as destroying Kate....what about her children?
By your logic...victim #1 shouldn't have written his book either.
Let me tell you something...I grew up (with 5 siblings...I was the oldest) of a very abusive mother. And I always assumed the neighbors never knew. It was the big family secret. And years later, I ran into a childhood friend at a class reunion and the next day, went to visit her at her mom's (she lived across the country but was staying at her mom's for the reunion) with my young toddlers and they played with her young toddlers and we all had a nice visit.
And when I left....I'll never forget....her mother stood next to my car and said, "I will never forget how your mother treated you kids". And I was stunned. I'd had no idea she'd known. I'd thought she practically let me live at her house when I was a kid just because she was nice.
And you know? It validated me. Made me feel a whole lot better.
Who knows? Maybe years from now, Robert's book...and blogs like this one...will make the Gosselin children feel validated. Unless you've lived with a really abusive parent all your childhood and nobody knew what was going on beyond the facade of the house.....you can't possibly comprehend what it might be like for the G. children....now and in the future.
I've always been a supporter of the truth....and happen to believe that Kate is a child abuser.....and have for one hell of a long time. And I didn't come to this conclusion casually and idly....I've followed this saga for years.
To be honest....my main focus is not Kate because you're right....she will always be their mother and it won't change that and when they get older, the kids will decide who they want to live with. My MAIN focus is TLC.....that's my main concern. I'm getting involved with another site regarding this new TLC show HBB....not thrilled with TLC about this show either.
Personally...my main focus is not Kate. Kate is only one of thousands of abusive mothers in the US. My focus is the TLC cover-up of it....and that's why I support R. Hoffman's book. The story of this cover-up....and what was happening behind the scenes....and how they covered and protected....and threatened others from revealing....that IS the story for me. If it was ONLY about Kate...I might have to agree with you. Why write a whole book like that just to expose one woman? But it's not all about her. For me, it's mainly about TLC and Kate just happens to be the woman they covered for.
Why is it so hard to believe that Kate beat and abused her 8 children?
I think it's because no one wants to believe a mother could do such a thing.
chefsummer said... 33
Stephanie Santoro, who was also allegedly romantically involved with Jon at one point, told Radaronline, "Jon told me that he pretty much hacked into everything of Kate's that he had access to. Her online banking, that he had a trace on every single one of her emails so anytime she would get an email he would get a copy of it!"
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And nowhere in that article does it mention journals, right? And if I understand the timeline correctly, Robert Hoffman hadn't even started collecting info for his book yet?
From the sounds of it to me (bank statements, emails) Jon was looking for info he might need for divorce court....any evidence of an affair and timing of it, proof of finances, etc.............as one would expect many spouses would do if they saw a divorce coming down the pike.
I don't see anything from Santoro indicating that he was collecting journals for a book author or for a future book author.
In Robert Hoffman's book he wrote that the journals, emails etc. were saved to discs and these discs were among the things, including thousands of personal (not pap) Gosselin pictures that were burned to discs and thrown in the trash the day after Jon left. It was not a computer or a computer hard drive. Many people burn documents, pictures, receipts etc. to disc. What is so hard to understand?
''Would you want your claim to fame to be a book of slander and lies that destroyed a woman?''
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He wouldn't be sued for slander, which is oral defamation. The term you are looking for here is libel. In a case of libel, she would have to prove that what is written in the book is lies; he does not have to prove it is the truth. Even where the statements made by the defendant are entirely false, it may not be possible for a plaintiff to prove all of the elements of defamation. Such a suit really would not be a wise move on her part. Kate did all of this herself. You eventually get found out. It may take years or a lifetime, but in the end, she has been her own worse enemy.
"Obviously "exposing" Kate isn't doing anything to change things."
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I wouldn't be so sure about that. I wonder if the wooden spoon is still in the car. You better believe that she now knows all eyes are on her treatment of the kids.
dee3 said... 24
You are a wise woman. Loved your comment.
And, like you, I believe Robert Hoffman. Over time I have heard and read enough words right from K. Gosselin's lying mouth to have every confidence the words quoted in Roberts book belong to her.
And I don't give a fig why he wrote the book.
It will slow that train wreck of a Mother down.
Now everyone knows she is an abuser. A terrible Mother. Now, the adults that come into contact with those children will be vigilant. The truth will set them free in more ways than we can imagine. Thank you Robert Hoffman, Admin,this wonderful blog and all the caring people that are here.
And, WHY, Why don't you do your own dang research to answer your questions? Start with googling, KATE GOSSELIN UGLY MOMENTS, youtube.
You will hear and see your answers there with your own eyes and ears all in one handy dandy place. Good luck in your quest for the truth. Peace out.
It actually wasn't Hailey that said Jon hacked Kate's computer, it was Stephanie the babysitter. For those who don't remember, which seems to be just about everybody, refresh your memory here:
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kate-gosselin-disturbed-by-report-that-jon-hacked-into-her-email-20091510
WHY. I get your frustration. It boggles the mind that folks can believe some hypothetical, unsubstantiated conjecture, but then vehemently deny even the possibility of other hypothetical, nsubstantiated conjucture.
WHY?? have you answered our questions?
no.
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I'll admit, I'd never heard of Joe Paterno until he was brought up on this blog RIGHT before the scandal broke. We were discussing how he walks around town like a normal person, not a Star. Anyhow, It was actually nice to be able to talk to my brothers as if I really knew who he was.
If anybody searches back, it's the weekend before the scandal broke that he was being discussed.
Audible Click said... 37
You are saying that from what you've read, Jon did not GIVE these discs to Hoffman. You are saying that they were thrown out in the trash and Jon wasn't even there when they were thrown out.....right? (I apologize....I don't have the book....yet).
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@New Hampshire #39
"And, WHY, Why don't you do your own dang research to answer your questions?"
I guess it's kinda difficult when the premise of his/her question is either untrue or unproven.
It's like somebody asking you why in the heck is the grass orange?????.....and the grass is actually green. I don't even know where to begin with questions like that.
There are only a few of us hanging out here late at night....and why the heck would this person even care what we think?
Why? is a five time juror so we are compelled to believe that what she says is true. lol. Was one of those trials Casey Anthony's by any chance?
I hope she plays the lottery she seems to have the luck of the draw. Five times. wow.
KATE: I am soooooooooooooooooo angry at you, Jon! (HA Bulkogi. I love Jon's restraint... No Worry, Beef Curry ;)
I finally figured out the meaning of life, then the Electric Co. called wanting serious answers from me on this Blog. They cut off my power, and made me forget what it was. Damn them.
Blasphemous Sheeple!
Seriously, our cell power tower just went down. Now I can't lurk on this site with my phone on my pillow to sleeep at night and I'm pissed.
WHY?? said... 27
Would you want your claim to fame to be a book of slander and lies that destroyed a woman?
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Why??, if Robert's book is slander and lies, then Kate will sue him. Simple as that. But consider this. RH released his book even after Kate's attorneys sent him a threatening cease and desist letter, and we have heard nothing at all about any lawsuit brought against him by Kate. It doesn't matter that the book was only available for a couple of days. The information still got out there.
To date, Kate has not said that the book is full of lies, even when given the opportunity to do so in her interview with Katie Couric. She has not said that the journal entries RH attributes to her are not genuine.
Don't you think that if she had actually been slandered and/or libeled, she would have been shouting it from the rooftops? She would have loved to go on every talk show in the land to cry about how wronged she was. There is no way she would have been able to resist that attention.
The only logical explanation for Kate's silence is that she cannot deny the truths of her own words.
"Very valid points. But the Jon-hate is too strong to take this poster seriously."
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Isn't one of the most notorious Jon-haters known as Goofy4boots (sic)? Robert calls her out in his book, and she has directed outrageous anger to Jon and about Jon.
Hailey continues to whore herself out ...
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201
@deannatweeting @kateplusmy8 Sounds like you two had a fun week! Can't wait to hear details. #WooHooGoKate
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 Super fun--a big adventure for sure!
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Whatever Deanna and Kate have been up to these last few days had better be damn interesting if it's going to top last week's eye-catching headlines.
Lifetime Show said... 47
Hailey continues to whore herself out ...
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Hehe....IIRC, she says she's dating some older powerful man (why she won't give his name) who is twice divorced and has 4 kids? But she feels the need to do this show for the empowerment of women or some such nonsense.
Why do these women involved in sex scandals always feel the need to tell their story to "empower women"? What women are supposed to be empowered by this? Mistresses of married men?
If you want the attention fine....but don't try to dignify it by claiming to be doing it for some altruistic purpose.
dee3 said... 42
Audible Click said... 37
You are saying that from what you've read, Jon did not GIVE these discs to Hoffman. You are saying that they were thrown out in the trash and Jon wasn't even there when they were thrown out.....right? (I apologize....I don't have the book....yet).
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No, what I'm saying is after Jon left someone (Kate or the hired help)cleared out the apartment and threw everything in the trash. RH was working for US and his job was to find Gosselin info so he had been searching the trash for awhile. That time he hit the jackpot.
AuntieAnn said... 48
Truth Teller @Truth_Teller201
@deannatweeting @kateplusmy8 Sounds like you two had a fun week! Can't wait to hear details. #WooHooGoKate
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@Truth_Teller201 @Kateplusmy8 Super fun--a big adventure for sure!
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Whatever Deanna and Kate have been up to these last few days had better be damn interesting if it's going to top last week's eye-catching headlines.
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Sheesh....how old is this Deanna? 12? "Super" fun?
Question....where it says "#woohoogokate"....is the symbol "#" significant? Is that another tweeter? What does the "#" indicate?
dee - it's (#) called a hashtag and apparently it has something to do with trending, but don't go by me. There are people on this blog far more twitter savvy than I :)
Dee3, that is called a hashtag. I don't tweet, so I'm not sure what the purpose is. Maybe for searching purposes?
Perhaps Why? Or Check please! might enlighten us.
I guess there are some that say that the victims in the Sandusky abuse case never should have come forward because after all, they would be the ones responsible for destroying a much-loved coach and respected citizen. Rather, let the abuse go on for another couple of decades. The accusers wouldn't be able to prove anything and would be called liars and attention-seekers just out to make money.
Sandusky's life has been destroyed, but Sandusky has nobody to blame but Sandusky.
AuntieAnn, I think trending makes more sense. :)
Twitter...for me...reminds me of when I took several years of Spanish in high school (back in the 60's) and I got good enough so I could read something in Spanish and kinda figure out the gist of it....but not the details.
I can figure out enough just from the content part of the tweet....but all the symbols confuse me and I can't figure out who is talking to who. Then comes the re-tweets....and now this trending.
It's really difficult for me.....I'm not kidding. It's like trying to translate a foreign language for me.
@WHY??
Do i look like your paid support staff? Educate yourself.
I hear ya, dee3!
# = a hashtag
If you tweet #MittRomney or #Obama2012 or whatever anyone who goes to that hashtag will see your tweet. The most popular hashtags are said to be "trending".
These are the trending hashtags right now:
#NFLMobile Promoted (Compnay pd for placement)
#ReasonsIFailAtBeingAGirl
#10PeopleYouTrulyLove
#10TwitterCrushes
#WeAllGotThatOneFriend
#ImSingleBecause
iTunes
Taylor Swift
Lakers
Dwight Howard
I LOVE twitter for up-to-the-minute news. I thought it was silly when I first heard about it. Then I saw live tweets about Fukishima on a news site and I got hooked. Japanese people were tweeting as it occurred and it was mesmerizing and devastating. I still follow several Japanese tweeters today; Fukishima is FAR from over.
@ Dee3 I misread your post. Yes, I'm saying that RH wrote that those journals were on discs in Kate Gosselin's trash. They were not given to him by Jon. What stands out to me is the fact that Kate has not been on TV to "set the record straight" it's not like her to be so silent, you'd think her handlers would insist that she deny the child and animal abuse in the media. I think anyone with any critical thinking skills and logic would be able to figure out why she is so,uncharacteristically, silent.
Anyway, sorry for misreading your post I'll blame it on post op tiredness and pain pills.
rainbowsandunicorns said... 54
I guess there are some that say that the victims in the Sandusky abuse case never should have come forward because after all, they would be the ones responsible for destroying a much-loved coach and respected citizen. Rather, let the abuse go on for another couple of decades. The accusers wouldn't be able to prove anything and would be called liars and attention-seekers just out to make money.
Sandusky's life has been destroyed, but Sandusky has nobody to blame but Sandusky.
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Boy, great parallel!
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Penny said... 41
I kinda knew Joe Paterno was related to the Penn State football team mainly because when my sons and brothers would go into withdrawal if the Eagles weren't playing, they would turn to college football....but other than that, I really wasn't all that familiar with him.
And I'd never heard of Jerry Sandusky.
But looking back now to when the scandal first broke...it seems like only part of the story was known....now that more info has come out from these victims....esp with this most recent 20/20 interview.
It sounds like the cover-up went up the ladder much higher....all the way up to Tom Corbett.
And the thing is....if the cover-up goes way up to the top....how realistic is it to expect those on lower rungs to crack it wide open?
And I'm not making excuses for them....it's just that nothing will ever get improved or remedied as long as people think those on lower rungs could have fixed it. What if they couldn't?
It can satisfy a certain blood-lust to make certain people fall on their swords......but is Tom Corbett gonna be held accountable? Will TLC ever be held accountable? Will the Catholic Church do everything they can from now on to make sure their scandals are never repeated? If you don't hold those at the very top accountable....and make sure they take steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.....what have you really fixed? Except for satisfying the call for blood from the public?
I'd be willing to bed, if I were a betting woman, that Kate did some kind of exercise video. It was on a beach. She'd think that was 'fun' and it would be long and Deanna would be there to touch up her make up.
Of course no one will buy it but I'll bet that is what she was doing.
These sweet little tweetings between Kate and Deanna are nothing more than taunting the sheeple...beach challenge, being rested, fun times. If they had anything to say to each other, why not do it in private e-mails or phone calls? Why put it out there for public consumption if not to generate excitement among the sheeple? Both of them are playing with the fans. It's so juvenile.
I'd be willing to bed, if I were a betting woman,
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Who or what are you going to bed? :)
I like what Dee3 said - and I agree. This is not necessarily about Kate, but the fact that TLC used her and the kids and Jon for ratings and that Kate is still trying to profit from the exploitation by promoting herself in that TLC persona. Jon and Kate are adults and what they do is really not any of my business. But there is definitely something evil in having a corporation like TLC complicit in the abuse of toddlers by covering it up, portraying the Gosselins as a struggling wholesome family and selling the lies for profit. The children had no say in the sacrifice of their privacy and of the childhoods. They were beaten to smile for the cameras and their very lives have become a charade to feed their mother's narcissism and make money for TLC/Kate. if Kate beat and abused the kids and Jon couldn't protect them,and if TLC exploited them, and we (viewers and society as a whole) were willing dupes - what does that say about our culture and our values?
I think kids should be off reality TV - all kids (HBB included) and corporations like TLC should be held to account for child exploitation.
If you don't hold those at the very top accountable....and make sure they take steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.....what have you really fixed? Except for satisfying the call for blood from the public?
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The victims, who are one step closer to healing...
What I find strange is that while Kate and Deanna were off having a great time they were on twitter silence. The minute they get back and start tweeting again Why?? shows up on this blog to try and divert attention away from Kate and try to get everyone to blame Jon. Coincidence? I don't think so. How much is she paying you to sell your soul Deanna and is it worth it?
WHY?? said... 27
Double-talk, deflection, ignorance...and if that fails just resort to insults. You all don't want the truth, you just want to carry on the agenda of hatred for Kate.
You don't have to answer to me but maybe just ask yourselves one question: if RH is all about the kids, how does this book help them? Obviously "exposing" Kate isn't doing anything to change things. What it is doing is giving RH his 15 minutes. Would you want your claim to fame to be a book of slander and lies that destroyed a woman?
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Why,....Let me say something here. Let's leave the accusations that are written in Roberts book. Lets look at all the times the books says Kate said she loves the kids so much, enough to pray for God to give her strength to not be so harsh. Goodness, lets forget that the book said she wanted help. She said in two or three of the episodes, from her own mouth, that she doesn't like to be so sharped tongue. In the last episode she said herself that she wasn't happy with how she behaved. She said in "I just want you to know" that she could and should have treated Jon kinder. Lets say that Jon is the creep and the one responsible for the marriage split. Let us say that Jon deserved Kate treating him that way. That still doesn't not change that Kate said, herself, she could and should have been kinder.
So now, it's only Kate's own words from episodes, interviews and her own writings. Why isn't any of the fans having compassion on Kate enough to take her by the hand and lead and guide her to reach what she prayed and openly said she wish she could change. Why are those who love her using their energy trying to change "haters". Even if all the "haters" changed their mind, it still not change what Kate herself wished she knew how to change.
I will not at this time accuse any fan of bad doing. I will say though that if she embraced me as a loving fan or friend, I would love her enough to compassionately be there to lead her to that goal she has admitted she is weak in and wants to get better at.
Notice I have not accused her of any bad doings or being a bad mother. I have only stated what Kate herself said she wish she could change, so she could be a better mother for kids. It is not an unattainable goal when you have those who love and care about you there to help you.
Audible Click said... 60
Hehe....aww, don't worry. I'm half asleep over here too. I think I've had somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 pots of coffee today (the 4-cup, not the 12-cup pots). Just be glad I didn't reply again asking you the same question worded differently......because I was stupidly getting ready to do that, lol....but then I figured we were both on the same page and we would eventually figure it out. :D
I'm probably gonna WISH I had pain pills tomorrow after sitting in this chair all evening. I'll be gulping the coffee and the advil.
And the thing is....if the cover-up goes way up to the top....how realistic is it to expect those on lower rungs to crack it wide open?
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This has troubled me. When police, prosecutors, grand juries, investigators and CYS did nothing for Aaron, how much can we blame those lower ranking than them? The people in charge weren't doing anything. The authorities themselves weren't doing anything. What do you do when you call 9-1-1 and no one comes? Is there another number to call? I think everyone bears responsibility for their roles but to what degree is the harder question.
The one thing I hope comes out of this interview is the media lie and public perception that "no one reported it" is corrected. Because to me that is the real story here. It WAS reported. And how did something that was reported SO much to SO many people get brushed aside?
Sleepless In Seattle said... 66
I agree....but the problem is, how do you prevent new future victims?
I know I don't really explain what I mean often....and I am half falling asleep here.....but if they punish the abusers...as they rightly should....but don't follow the cover-up ALL the way to the top.....and try to ensure that it doesn't happen again......it's just gonna keep happening over and over.
Despite my typos, I still think the only plausible thing Kate could have been doing is filming her own exercise video. On a beach.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 70
Ohh....THANK YOU (as I fall on my knees, sobbing).
(okay, I'm being melo-dramatic)
Did Joe Paterno have a role? Yes. Did Jon Gosselin have a role? Yes.
BUT.....if a cover-up goes ALL the way to the top....and you know it....and you are risking your family, your finances, your career, your possibility of seeing your children ever again....etc. etc......and your reports and cries for help go nowhere.......................WHY should YOU be the one held totally to blame?
And if someone on a lower rung....who did TRY but their cries went unheard....is made to fall on his/her sword to satisfy the public....what has really been fixed? What will prevent this from happening over and over again?
It's almost a distraction technique.....let's have this person over here fall on their sword and the public will forget and those at the top will just carry on and nothing will change.
I think there are plenty of parallels between the Penn State and the Gosselin/TLC cases. Both involved huge cover-ups that went way, way up to the top of the ladder. I have no problem holding those accountable on the lower rungs for their roles.....but if you don't hold those at the very top accountable too.......and don't do anything to make sure it doesn't happen again....it's just gonna keep happening.
I do not agree with minors being on reality tv shows, period. That's why I don't watch those shows, to me, it is always a bad idea. I don't care if it's a "loving" family or not. Something is basically wrong when children's real (or allegedly real) lives are presented for our evening's entertainment. There are no legal protections in place for those kids.
I would never sell my child's privacy. I regret being a voyeur in the Gosselin childrens lives. I hope this group's vigilance will help them in some way to heal.
WHY?? said... 6
I'm not Al or Polly, or any of Kate's fans. I'd just like you all to answer the questions and not do everything to ignore or change the subject. Is that so hard? Why??
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Why...When a question is relying on a answer that is someones opinion, the question remains ambiguous. The answer is an opinion of someone else, so there is no way it can be either black or white. The one asking the question asks with their own reasoning to the question in the back of their mind. Therefore, others answers/opinions will never match up to the answer they believe themselves and will be perceived as not being answered.
It's almost a distraction technique.....let's have this person over here fall on their sword and the public will forget and those at the top will just carry on and nothing will change.
I think there are plenty of parallels between the Penn State and the Gosselin/TLC cases. Both involved huge cover-ups that went way, way up to the top of the ladder. I have no problem holding those accountable on the lower rungs for their roles.....but if you don't hold those at the very top accountable too.......and don't do anything to make sure it doesn't happen again....it's just gonna keep happening.
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I couldn't agree more with all of this.
Here's my take on this, and this may be hard to hear but I believe it to be the truth. The media likes a simple story. The media likes things it can wrap up in a neat little bow and move on to the next controversy. The media prefers to put a face on the enemy, tar and feather that enemy, and move on. Look folks, we caught the bad guy, all is well. The pesky details didn't matter, it mattered they caught SOMEONE. This is a common phenomenon in criminal justice. It becomes more important to authorities to satisfy the pubic by nabbing someone than it does that it's the right thing to do. Happens a the way up and down the system from a small time bank robbery to the Iraq war.
There were just way too many people involved with this the media hardly even TOUCHED. For example, few people ever talked about Karen Probst, who I believe to me one of the most guilty parties here both legally and morally. A PRINCIPAL. Someone highly trained in the protection and education of children. Not a coach, not a janitor, not a grad student. But since they already had their man and had strung him up, Karen Probst skated on by and is still teaching our children.
Again, kudos to 20/20 and Aaron for not being satisfied with this simple ending to a complicated story. This ending was not right. This ending has not brought full and proper justice to the victims, only partial justice. And I hope 20/20 and Aaron never stop until the correct ending is achieved.
And yes I see the massive parallels in the equally complicated coverup of Kate Gosselin's bad behavior.
I think the last time I used "super fun" and "adventure" in the same sentence I was a junior in high school.
Deanna and Kate really deserve each other.
Ironically, I wonder if Kate's attorneys told Kate that she cannot say that Robert is lying, because then SHE would be defaming Robert by calling him a liar. LOL.
Seems to me someone calling you a child abuser is a pretty straight forward libel lawsuit for an attorney like hers. Every day that goes by they don't sue and she doesn't deny it leaves me even more convinced it's her real words. Not to mention I find it impossible to believe someone who writes as poorly as Robert (no offense) could possibly imitate KAte's writing style that well.
Another reason Robert didn't make those emails up? Kate writes things only a woman would. Like being surprised that Jen noticed that she and Jon weren't hugging/kissing much. A man wouldn't understand why that would make a woman pause.
Robert took a lie detector test administered for AMI Media WHO OWNS STAR MAGAZINE AND RADARONLINE!
I believe he has the original reciept and box of the shot or shots that kate bought out of the country to make more babies.
Robert contacted CPS 2 times and they did nothing.
Someone needs to do something about her driving. the U turns, illegal left turns, texting while driving, speeding, high mph speeding, EasyPass with not paying, passing on blind curves.
I pray if she has an accident that NONE OF THE KIDS ARE WITH HER, THAT THEY WILL BE WITH JON.
A beach, L.A.
Makes the brothel report all the more credible.
Maybe one of the dates was on the beach and maybe all the running around she had to do to film a pilot in just a few days is why Deanna suggested it was so whirlwind.
Hard to believe there was just that one sighting although most LA people don't think anything of a film crew so they might not have noticed.
Admin, what do you think about an exercise/yoga video? That could be done on a beach. She fancies herself an 'exercise' specialist.
I don't see her filming a dating show on her own. That would be too complicated for her. LOL
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 80
Hehe....so she was filming a date on the beach. Were Steve and Deanna both there? Oooh......HOW ROMANTIC!
Nothing like going out on a date on the beach with your biggest sycophant and your bodyguard/boyfriend and a film crew in tow.....lol.
Wonder what Steve would do if the guy got amorous.
Just the thought is making me giggle (but then I'm half-asleep).
I'm not getting the impression that they were at a beach. Kate said "Was so fun and so beach challenge-like wasn't it?". I interpret "beach challenge-like", as a comparison of how it was when they went to the beach house in Alabama. Many things to take care of, careful planning,etc. In other words, it was a challenge to get it done and accomplished, just like the beach trip was.
Kate is a twit.
That is EXACTLY how I read that tweet as well. I don't think she was at a beach. What ever they were doing REMINDS kate of a beach-challenge thing.
I think she is spending the kids money by self producing a show that she will then try and sell to a network.
Remember she set up SK8 productions not that long ago.
At this rate there will not be any money left for the kids within the next year.
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I'm too tired to log in guys. That glycerin sin't working so good anymore!
I think Kate is gonna try and sell an aerobics video. With maybe yoga like someone else upthread said.
I think Kart was away filming her pathetic (fun) dating show pilot with Deanna (the makeup artist/friend), Steve (the lurking just off camera SKG producer/director) and the minimally paid suitors (actors/models/waiters who signed away all their current and future assets, in a 100 page contract/confidentiality agreement/trust fund).
Whatever she was doing, I don't think it has to do with exercise. She doesn't claim to be an exercise expert, doesn't claim to do much exercise other than running. The yoga thing is very recent and only a couple of times or so. Nope, I sure don't anticipate an exercise video out of her.
dee3 said... 83
Nothing like going out on a date on the beach with your biggest sycophant and your bodyguard/boyfriend and a film crew in tow.....lol.
Wonder what Steve would do if the guy got amorous.
Just the thought is making me giggle (but then I'm half-asleep).
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LOL! Using Dude's terminology, can't you hear Skeeve -
"Put your pork pistol away! Move along, nothing of interest here!"
So, Kate is most likely trying to sell her own show about her dating. How bizarre. They hired some actors to pretend to be her "suitors". Deanna was there to do her makeup and Stevie is now a producer/director? LOL. And Kate got to play dress up and movie star. Yes, I see the networks all fighting over snapping up Kate's pretend dating show.
What person in show business really hides what they are doing, they are always discussing even if it is generic like "watch for my new show" or "making exercise DVD" who ever likes to have their fans wait and wait and why? Because she has nothing or she gets a kick out of "playing" her fans, she enjoys the control. fans shouldn't have to be tested or work so hard, it's sad really. For some reason I feel sorry for them. Westbrooke
I read the threads backwards so maybe this is in here...I read something about a casting call last night but could not find where that info came from: How do we know there was a casting call?
She has no dating show...sounds to me like she went on vacation with her makeup artist friend...why does everyone assume she was taping something..I don't get it..why? Bacause she said she was working? She WAS working the first part of the week when she went on that dopey show....thats all she meant...she's a proven liar...how can anyone in their right mind believe she was "working"? Theres nothing to work ON....again, I call bullshit on all of this......and there she goes again with tweets of determination again this morning....some things never change....she loves when people react to her....thats her whole plan...she has nothing in the works...its all to keep herself relavent.. shes laughing all the way to the bank with her millions....and laughing at the haters and sheeple...Please STOP with the dating show talk...it is totally ridiculous...
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I agree with you. She's not doing one blasted thing. She didn't have the kids, so it was time for a break, lol.
Since CC was supposed to sponsor her run this upcoming weekend in LA, it will be interesting to see if she chokes up the money to go. I bet she doesn't.
Wonder how Robert is doing in the wheels of justice? here's hoping the book is re-released soon, with more damaging info.
RT @LifeTools You determine how far you go in life, nobody else. MY INSPIRATION FOR TODAY..VERY TRUE AND MUCH APPRECIATED! NOW ONWARD...;)XO
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It's been interesting to see how as the zeros accumulated in her bank accts, how she through her faith by the wayside....now she tweets that.
At least she didn't lie and say she took the kids to church yesterday.
whatttt??? no keurig or coffeemate tweet today??? no bella bars???? lol
Aggie....don't you just love the way she keeps the haters and sheeple interested with her inuendo tweets..(did I spell that right?)...thats her schtick...getting so sick of it....sounds like she went away and shut her phone off for the week..you know she doesn't want to face all the crap being thrown at her ...she's so abvious.....I could just here it now..."when I tell you that I'm working on something else, you won't care that I got fired"....shes trying to devert attention from what happened....and whats going on? Everyones falling for it...#beingplayed...
Did anyone see this?
http://thecelebritycafe.com/feature/2012/08/anderson-cooper-tweets-photo-kelly-ripa-amid-cheating-rumors
Anderson Cooper (Ridiculist!) and Andy Cohen (Jackhole of the Week) are vacationing together with Kelly Ripa and her husband. I wonder if they've discussed their mutual dislike for Kate at all?
Another thought...I think most of Kate's TV appearances in the last year or so were set up by CC to promote them (which she didn't do). Now that CC isn't there to arrange all that for her, will she be on any more talk shows? She's on her own now. I always wondered why all those shows had her on. It was to promote CC. Otherwise, they wouldn't have had her on.
KAT and Aggiemom~ I agree! Tweets about her "beach-like adventure" are a diversionary tactic. Yeah, that CC letter was ugly, but oooh, look at this shiny object!
And as for the tweet about "You determine how far you go in life, nobody else" is a double-edged sword for her. She alone is responsible for the lower-than-low point where she finds herself right now. Not editing, pr spins and tabloid stories. The slide from grace and public favor? Kate built that, all by her little lonesome.
I guess she was "determined" to get fired then....this f#$%ing pain in the ass...shove those inspirational tweets up your ASS... You damn loser...just sick to death of her "playing" everybody...Her fired, lazy ass belongs in jail..filthy con artist...enough said...
RT @LifeTools You determine how far you go in life, nobody else. MY INSPIRATION FOR TODAY..VERY TRUE AND MUCH APPRECIATED! NOW ONWARD...;)XO
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This is flipping hilarious because we all know what a great "masterminder" she is. Been working well for her these few weeks, journals published, child/animal abuse, fired from her job ... all her own fault. Nice of her to take responsibility, though.
THANK YOU THANK YOU: to all who responded re the child's b-day post. Your responses helped. I think the core issue is simply that these parties have gotten so out of hand, they really miss the focus on the b-day child. It's more of an "activity party" rather than anything else.
We have another one this weekend, and after seeing how it goes, I may not bring my son to additional b-day parties until he is older.
As far as the gift giving goes, my sis is a seasoned party goer. She and her husband are very well off, and my niece gets invited to parties almost every weekend (one actually had a PETTING ZOO brought on site). She suggested books as gifts instead of toys, so that's what we did. Kids need books, and we take our son to the library once a week, he loves it.
My son's b-day is coming up and we are simply having a cake with pop pop and grandma, and taking him out to a place he loves to go. I would like to have just a few of his friends over at my house for silly games, but it also seems the "invite the whole class" thing/plus the parents is in play, and we can't afford that, let alone get that many people in our small house. It's kind of a sad situation, with political/parental ramifications. Sigh.
Thanks again for all the replies.
heather
Ok, just read most of the comments: to this Why person, you must be a drive-by, or a Kate lover, you, came here before as someone else, to stir up shit, and talk in circles. You sound like that one a couple of threads ago, who kept asking about, how Kate got so many eggs, people gave that one several answers and yet that person kept asking, till I think Admin shut them down. Sounds like the same person: Why? Why: believe what you want, and we will believe what we want. Hey go back to Kate's sandbox or go play on the freeway.
And as for the tweet about "You determine how far you go in life, nobody else"
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I don't think she thought that one over very hard before she sent it, lol...
WHY?
Let's go through your questions one by one,ok?
1. Let me get this straight. You really think that Jon is a good influence on the kids?
Yes. Jon has the kids 50% of the time, and he is their father. I think he is just as good an influence as (if not better than) Kate. And nobody has accused him of abuseor neglect.
2. Someone who would hack into his wife's computer and give the very person whose wife had always hated his family those files?
If you read the book, Robert Hoffman stated that Jon did NOT give him the files. Kate threw them away, RH took them from the trash. RH passed a lie detector test. Nobody involved, not even Kate, has ever said that Jon gave them to RH. Kate's fans made that little lie up.
3. The person who, if you believe the GosselinBook, knew about the child abuse but did nothing to save his kids? But who told the world that Kate was a great mother?
We don't know what he did to save his kids. Court records are sealed, as are CPS files. There is some debate about whether he actually said she was a great mother. It has been reported that he said, "She is a mother" during the interview, and that statement was altered.
4 .The person, who instead of reporting his abusive wife to authorities who could help his children, chose to leave those children in an abusive situation?
Once again, nobody knows what he reported. Jon cannot take the children away without court approval. That is custodial interference. Custodial interference is illegal.
5. The person who has lived off of every single woman he has been in a relationship with since the divorce? Who has taken their money and used them as helpers with his kids?
Kate has lived off the kids since birth. She has taken their money and used it to pay helpers to take care of the kids so she doesn't have to deal with them. They supported her for years, and she continues to live off their money.
The only woman who said Jon took money was Hailey. Nobody else. Yet she didn't take him to court to get it back. I question her claims since she didn't make the effort to recoup her money. Instead she sold a story to the tabloids. Kate herself says not to believe the taabloids.
6. The person who is content to not support his children financially?
Jon works. He has worked at one job or another for several years. He has the kids 50% of the time, and he pays for their support during that time. Therefore, he pays for his 50% of their support. Kate is the one who is unemployed. Kate is the one who can't seem to keep a job. She has been fired twice in the last 14 months. Jon has voluntarily left jobs to move on to better jobs. Not fired. Big difference.
7. This is the person whom you think is a good influence on the kids??
Yes.
8. And lastly, why do you all here continue to believe that Jon has 50/50 custody without any proof? Why would you believe RH wthout any proof.
Jon is frequently seen locally with the kids. Far more than the 4 days a month the Kate fans claim. I find it harder to believe that Kate has them 50% of the time, given the fact that she is away so much. And when she is home, she needs help (paid for with the kids' money) to deal with them.
Glad to be of some help!
Seems like Kate is just following her MO of 'keeping on keeping on."(so profound) If she went on vacation, could she enjoy it, knowing the mess she's in and that the whole cyberworld knows it? If she was peddling a show, wouldn't she be worried it might nor be successful? No, Kate is just cocky, brazen and foolish. Ugh.
I would have expected any human being to show some remorse or embarrassment- none here.
She never mentions anything without a reason. Either to make herself look like the wannabe super mom that she clearly isn't, or saying something that is the opposite of the truth.
Kinda like the lunch thing...I'm *known* for my lunches.....Yeah, you are sure are. It's just not in a good way, you dipsh*t. Just an effort to deflect from what was really going on, the stale lunches.
Thus, the yoga mention has to be for a reason. She's either lying and didn't do it, or it's part of something. She ALWAYS foreshadows.
Part of her stupid control freak games she plays.
P.S. Hey Kate! Where's Shoka????
If I was a known dog beater, I'd be making SURE that there were photos (or better yet, video) of that dog lovingly interacting with my six little money-makers.
What better way to prove to people that I'm not a dog beater?
Oh, that's right. You can't provide current photos cuz he's not there anymore, is he.
Formerly Duped: And Kate will never acknowledge failure. Just as she sees negative publicity as just more publicity for her. Since she has been home, she has not acknowledge the CC firing. She has acknowledge the: I'm not what they say I am, thing, which to me is in a round about way, answering the CC letter, with out really answering it. Kate must have been something as a kid and teen, with lying, and finding ways to get out of things, manipulation, which Kate seems real good at.
I was pretty much convinced she was using SK8 to produce a dating show pilot but I have to say she could have very well taken a spa vacation with Deanna after NYC. I really do not see much point in speculating anymore. She continues life like nothing has happened. She simply does not give a rat's behind what anyone thinks unless it is contrary to her imaginary role as super duper mom of eight. Well Robert, she sure wants your book to go away, doesn't she?
Kates folowing her usual MO....FUN, IGNORE, DTERMINED, IGNORE, WORKING, IGNORE, POSITIVITY, IGNORE, FUN FUN, IGNORE, ONWARD, IGNORE, EVERYTHINGS PERFECT, IGNORE, FUN FUN FUN, IGNORE....DID I SAY FUN?
TLC sticks: Your very right, Kate does live in her own world. Instead of making a statement about CC, Kate attacked saying all the things, that have been said about her are not true, she hid behind, the project she did, and then put a pic of the kids up, then trease her fans. Never really answering anything.
I hope someone leaks to the tabloids what happened to Shoka. Even if she posted a picture, there is no way to know when it was taken.
TLC stinks said... 111
I hope someone leaks to the tabloids what happened to Shoka. Even if she posted a picture, there is no way to know when it was taken.
TLC stinks,
My hope is that the tabloids, news media, talk show hosts, etc just ignore her. She feeds off the attention, whether positive or negative. It makes her feel like she's still somebody. CC isn't forcing anyone to put her on TV any longer. She has nothing to promote. Time for her to fade away into oblivion and mediocrity. She'll never admit Shoka is gone, and she will use that fact to play the media for more attention. Completely ignoring her would be the worst sort of hell she could imagine. It's what I'm hoping for.
The only way Kate's getting back on TV would be to discuss the info in Robert's book. Other than that, she has nothing left to offer.
Wonder how much longer julie and steve will be around.
heather
She will never answer anything....its how she handles her failures. Lets face it...if she explained every disater that has happened to her ...she would be on twitter all day...spin control 24/7...she would rather ignore and move on to the next firing....ONWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't know why she would mess that job up...that was her way of getting on T.V...you won't see her again unless someone is willing to pay her to promote their company...and we all know how good she is at that! BWAAAAAA...
I have not commented in a long time, in fact am so discouraged the Kate keeps "winning" that I even cut back checking sites hoping for good news as it seems the kids are still victims of a selfish , ego driven woman for a Mother.
However, when news of Roberts book came out I bought it and almost finished reading it. I also started checking sites more often esp. this one and one of Kates' tweets recently mentioned yoga and if I recall, she made it sound like she just was starting to do it and how much she loved it. Can anyone post that tweet or check it and see If I am correct. The reason is in the book dated 12:15:11 under title" Wrapping Presents"she tweeted "Ok, so I wrapped, did yoga, ran for 40 mins. on treadmill and now I'm back to Christmas stuff..oh my..Racing the Clock!
I think she may be doing a yoga fitness video because she never mentions something without a hidden agenda IMO.
Layla said... 103
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Layla, hats off to you!
Couldn't have said it better myself!
What person in show business really hides what they are doing, they are always discussing even if it is generic like "watch for my new show" or "making exercise DVD" who ever likes to have their fans wait and wait and why?
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None. Sometimes, for REALLY big things, like Star Wars or other major films, the details will be kept quiet. The new Lincoln film I'm really excited to see has been kept pretty secretive. However what hasn't been a secret is that there IS a Lincoln film being made. It's not like Steve Spielberg has been going around saying I'm making a super secret project stay tuned. You'll know what it is someday. No, that is annoying and being a tease. Kate could say what project she is working on without revealing any other details.
WHY??...So you'll believe Hailey Glassman? Where's the proof from Hailey that Jon hacked into Kate's computer? Have you seen it? Is it in your possession? You want everyone to provide proof and answer questions about what you question but you don't provide proof either. It's a two-way street. Believe what you want and let others believe what they want.
Don't believe she did anything...and for anyone who does...believe me..you will find her next "project" in the dollar bin with her last book...SHES'S DONE....I admire her delusional thinking and persistence...
To tell you the truth I wouldn't say anything either until it was a done deal...which nothing she does ever is. She can do whatever she chooses...doesn't mean a company will buy the crap she's selling...We can all go to a beach and make a so-called fitness video...means nothing unless its on the shelves...I don't expect anything coming from this little vacation she took...it was another excuse to get away....she can't say anything..she knows chances are slim to none it will see the light of day....#beingplayed
Layla said.......103
3. The person who, if you believe the GosselinBook, knew about the child abuse but did nothing to save his kids? But who told the world that Kate was a great mother?
We don't know what he did to save his kids. Court records are sealed, as are CPS files. There is some debate about whether he actually said she was a great mother. It has been reported that he said, "She is a mother" during the interview, and that statement was altered.
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I do think, IIRC, Jon did say that Kate was a "great mother"......BUT....this was back during the time when Jon was under a gag order, they'd made him sign an agreement to never mention the abuse, TLC had threatened to sue him for breach of contract....and he had literally been bound and gagged by TLC and by everyone who TLC threatened and influenced.
AND....he took the high road by calling her that. I remember...we were all happy that he'd chosen to do this for the sake of the children.
Can you just IMAGINE if he'd gone on TV and said that Kate had abused the children? He would have been absolutely crucified. He was already being crucified for a whole list of things he'd never done...accused of paying no child support when he was actually paying over 20 grand, accused of destroying the marriage and cheating when Kate had tossed him out long before that.....and on and on.
I do realize this instigator was just trying to deflect....but it just amazes me how people think Jon should have been able to waltz over to CPS, tell his story, and waltz off with his kids. No WONDER these folks believe everything they see on reality shows.
They have NO clue how the real world works.
Jon entered into a marriage with a classic narcissistic abuser that resulted in 8 children. Yes, he made his mistakes....but by the time he tried to make things right, Kate was under the complete protection of a huge corporation with tentacles of influence reaching everywhere.....that didn't care about Kate....but just wanted to keep filming the children.
Jon was up against a Goliath....just like victim #1 was.
The parallels are so strong between both stories.
IMO, Jon is a damn saint. I don't know how he even survived what he went through back then.
Oh...and BTW...I'm doing research on this whole HBB situation and when I collect enough info, I will make my case here.....because there are huge parallels between the HBB situation and the Gosselin situation....insofar as TLC is/was involved.
And just to be clear...this is NOT about the Thompsons or about "rednecks", or about the south, etc. It's ALL about TLC for me.....and they are doing a similar thing with this family.
The LAST thing I want to see is people who are now wise to Kate and to TLC regarding the Gosselin situation but are being fooled (by TLC) into not seeing that TLC is still up to its own tricks and continuing to wreak havoc and destroy families.....ESPECIALLY children....with a new family.
"Greedy Gosselins said... 62
I'd be willing to bed, if I were a betting woman, that Kate did some kind of exercise video. "
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My guess, too. Yoga for beginners on the beach. BUT, she won't get any sponsors. It is what it is....she gets to prance around naked for purseboy. She must be getting desperate since I don't see he's left his wife.
Deanna must be getting paid pretty good. :)
We all know purseboy is over paid.
At night, bet they were reviewing resumes to hire people to defend fakekate on the blogs.
That's my take.
Words at 195
Fertility issues are EXACTLY why I don't ask my DD about grand children. As much as I would love to have some, I love my daughter more and would NEVER chance hurting her by bringing it up! My mother can press me about it as much as she wants but I'm just not going there!
Kate can film whatever she wants. Doesn't mean it will land on TV. I love how she said her arms hurt after the did the ab video. Umm, if she was using the product properly her abs would be hurting not her arms.
Reread the Vanity Fair article about Jon and Kate (found it in a box of stuff; totally forgot I had saved it). I forgot how eye opening that article was. But it had a little blurb about Skeeve. It said he used to protect a software mogul. Skeeve says, "That was interesting. Bit of a nerd." I thought that was totally unprofessional. Why would you call a previous client a bit of a nerd. All you need to say is my previous client was in the software industry. End of story. What a douche. After seeing HBB being protected by that large, incredibly fit bodyguard, Skeeve was definitely Kate's handler. Look at who celebrities have protecting them. They are large and fit like HBB's bodyguard. They don't resemble Skeeve at all. Kate also got angry in the article when Laurie Goldberg, sr. vp of comm. for TLC (who was also in the hotel room for the interview) and Skeeve said that Skeeve was there to protect the paps from her. HeeHee.
Now that wasn't very nice Admin...."I" thought it was funny....sheesh...
Kat, threatening physical harm on someone is not funny and could get this blog in trouble. Please stop creating more work for me and stop posting things like that.
I am very worried about Shoka and agree that Kate should have him in pictures just to prove to her "haters" that he is there and thriving. What I do not understand is why no-one in her neck of the woods knows a thing about his whereabouts. You would think that it would be local gossip if nothing else. How well-hidden is Kate's life in a seemingly small community? It just speaks volumes to me that she is in no way connected to the locals at all, or there would be some word on Shoka.
This is turning in to Shoka-gate, where is that poor dog?
capecodmama said... 125
And not to mention that HBB's bodyguard is clearly protecting HER...not just her mother.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2218237/Honey-Boo-Boo-gets-tiara-sash-shes-crowned-Miss-Extra.html
If you scroll down, there are several pics of the bodyguard clearly making Alana his first priority.
Remember the Republican Convention and about Women in Binders?
Enjoy!
http://tinyurl.com/94rxwqj
Caution: Do not drink or take a sup of liquid while looking at these pictures! You will spit it all up on your computer! lol Just hold off on the Rumspringa just a few minutes! HAHAHA
sftk said... 116 ...The reason is in the book dated 12:15:11 under title" Wrapping Presents"she tweeted "Ok, so I wrapped, did yoga, ran for 40 mins. on treadmill
Good find!
Kate tweeted this on December 17th, 4:22 PM:
yes just got some DVDs of yoga for runners... So will do for awhile and then blog about it of course! :)
And December 17th, 7:13 PM in reference to yoga:
I've just started bc I need it. On to another marathon so gotta do better :)
Then Kate tweeted this on Sept 28th (3 weeks ago):
Just finished my 4th ever yoga class..I am hopelessly in love w the hard work&the complete shut out of the outside world!So healthy2relax!
This on Oct 1:
to me that was my yoga lesson today... All the world, be gone... I was in my body and focusing on it!;) ahhhh
And this from Hollywood Access on Oct 16:
Kate says her best schedule is to get a 10 miles run in every other day. She’s also added another stress reducer to her exercise routine – yoga. “It is so strangely closely related to running, which sounds ridiculous. It is challenging and hard and I have fallen in love with it. I love look forward to yoga now as much as I do running.”
For the tenth time, discussions of "drive bys" the house are not allowed here. It doesn't matter whether it was on the way to someplace you legitimately had to go, it's NOT ALLOWED, PERIOD. Is there any way else I can say this to make it clear?
I ask people in light of lawyers and whatnot being involved lately, to PLEASE be careful on this blog. Don't talk about driving by her house, don't make threats even as a joke, don't tell insider stories unless you're prepared to prove it to me via email, don't reveal things about the school, ANYTHING about the school, don't say libelous things unless it can be backed up with information already out there. It will make a lot less work for me and my helpers. People popping in to shit stir is one thing, but I am getting a little irritated that the regulars are having such trouble following some simple requests. I believe this blog is being watched, and that's not paranoia. Not to mention, I want this blog to stay "above" that sort of nonsense and be as legitimate as possible, but I need your corporation. Thank you.
Hi folks :o) I hope everyone is doing well.
Someone on Twitter left a very good question for Kate. No doubt it will be ignored-
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@xxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 If Kate can't afford a babysitter for a few hrs. week nursing, how can she afford one 24/7 for 9 days?
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Yeah.
@xxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 If Kate can't afford a babysitter for a few hrs. week nursing, how can she afford one 24/7 for 9 days?
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Simple. His name is Jon, he works for free, takes the kids out for frozen yogurt and he'll even pay for shit they need. I'm surprised she never blogged about this obvious savings tip, it could have saved her sheeple a lot of money--dump your children on their father whenever you don't feel like seeing them for nine days.
Why is it so hard to believe that Kate beat and abused her 8 children?
I think it's because no one wants to believe a mother could do such a thing. 35
http://www.childhelp.org/pages/statistics?gclid=CJKm2Y2Jk7MCFU-d4Aod6j0A9Q
When Kate tweeted about her arms being sore, I think it had more to do with filming an episode of the show, rather than the AbChamp infomercial.
“Good day all!Anothr fun project day while filming r show!My arms r so sore from yest!Wait til u see wut I've been up to...nope, not tellin'!”
On June 29, 2011, she tweeted:
“Arms still ache!2days activities didn't hlp!my idea so self 2 blame!Don't think I could do this4a living,altho I fooled evry1 watching!:)
GN”
Then on 8/22/11, she tweeted:
“REMINDER!
Kate+8 tonight on TLC at 9pm EST
**LIVE TWEET WITH ME!**
C what was I doing that made my arms sore (no vine swinging w Tarzan!)!”
The episode that aired that night was "Treehouse and Chicks", which was the episode where she was playing carpenter, and built the barn door.
News about the AbChamp infomercial came out on July 11, 2011. If she were filming it on June 29, I don't think it would have been released that soon.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 135
@xxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 If Kate can't afford a babysitter for a few hrs. week nursing, how can she afford one 24/7 for 9 days?
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Simple. His name is Jon, he works for free, takes the kids out for frozen yogurt and he'll even pay for shit they need. I'm surprised she never blogged about this obvious savings tip, it could have saved her sheeple a lot of money--dump your children on their father whenever you don't feel like seeing them for nine days.
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Exactly!
Now, if only Kate would just stop using the excuse that she will not go back to nursing, because hiring a babysitter would be too expensive...
I would love to hear something(anything) believeable come out of that woman's mouth.
She make's absolute zero sense to me.
Layla, I agree I want her to no longer get publicity, but not at the expense of turning a blind eye to a child and animal abuser. It took guts for Robert to publish his book and I was thrilled he has not given up and is having it edited.
So Admin, this blog is being watched? Not surprised. And we know Kate reads here too. So since she does, we need to keep up the drumbeat of where is the dog. We are just inquiring about that furry much loved member of the family after all. You want to prove Robert is a liar, don't ya Kate?
I'm very sorry admin. Didn't mean anything...It was just a joke that I heard somewhere...thought it was funny at the time. Have never and would never harm anyone...didn't know it would be taken like that. I certainly don't want to cause problems for you...believe me...
Sorry-
make that "makes"- not make's :o(
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 133
Hey there Pink!
Have you changed back from Sassy Lassy?
I'm not getting the impression that they were at a beach. Kate said "Was so fun and so beach challenge-like wasn't it?". I interpret "beach challenge-like", as a comparison of how it was when they went to the beach house in Alabama. Many things to take care of, careful planning,etc. In other words, it was a challenge to get it done and accomplished, just like the beach trip was.
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I see beach challenging as no making her surf, go in the water and swim with the sharks. All those things she has to do to film for TLC. Remember the river raft episode where she got mad and yelled at the guy saying they lied to her because they said they weren't going to do that? I never really knew what that meant because they never showed what they told her.
By saying what was said in her tweets last night makes her a hypocrite, doesn’t it? To say ugliness and negativity is not accepted nor promoted when she in fact has infected the exact things upon her own children per her journal. HYPOCRITE.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 132 Not to mention, I want this blog to stay "above" that sort of nonsense and be as legitimate as possible, but I need your corporation. Thank you.
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Aww geez, Admin...do I really have to give up my corporation?? Drat!!
Sorry Kate is a twit...84, I forgot to paste you name to give you credit.
Has Kate raised a stink about the content of Hoffman's book (denied it) or because she thinks he stole her diary and hard-drive?
I love how on her CC blog she had to write how she sorts her junk mail and shreds it. Who shreds junk mail besides credit card offers? She running defense that Hoffman couldn't possibly dug damaging things out of her trash, cause she's an organized shredder, just like she's a "contract honorer" except, she's not. But, Kate Gosselin IS a known damage controller and child abuser-animal abuser/grifter/liar/swindler of churches/manipulator, narcissist and husband/friend/helper/employee abuser.
TLC just lives for those in society to take advantage of to boost their ratings and make their corporation the bucks. Damn the consequences to everyone, especially the children--they are treated like dogs, hauled to the serum plant when they have lost their usefulness.
njay said... 144
I think Kate meant she was promised they would not go into the rapids but stay in calm water- they did go into small rapids and she was annoyed at getting a little wet. I may be wrong, but that's how I took it. She was such a bitch to that man, but he had her number.
Wonder why she would go to the beach yet again if she's not water-ish?
kate will never know unconditional love. Really think she threw out shoka like the trash.
She is a miserable human being. Never ever happy. Not with her children, husband, companion animals. The things in life that matter most.
I am also convinced, purseboy helped destroy that marriage. He did Jon a great favor in the end.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 135
@xxxxxx @Kateplusmy8 If Kate can't afford a babysitter for a few hrs. week nursing, how can she afford one 24/7 for 9 days?
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Simple. His name is Jon, he works for free, takes the kids out for frozen yogurt and he'll even pay for shit they need. I'm surprised she never blogged about this obvious savings tip, it could have saved her sheeple a lot of money--dump your children on their father whenever you don't feel like seeing them for nine days.
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This is a prime example of how she cannot relate to most moms and families out there. When our sons were growing up, my husband and I worked opposite shifts so one of us would be with them while the other worked......and most of my co-workers were doing the same thing.
And I had several divorced friends who did the same thing with their exes.....so that one parent was with the kids while the other worked.
Most parents, whether divorced or not, try to do as much as they can to make sure the children are either with the other parent...or even a grand-parent(s) or a reliable adult family member when they are at work.
Child care can be very expensive and as most parents know, nobody loves your child like you and your family does. It was much easier to relax and focus at work knowing the boys were with home with their father.
I remember just a few times, when the boys were really little, hiring a sitter and going to something like a work Christmas party, etc. with my husband....and we were nervous and running back and forth to phone home and check on how the kids were doing.
But Kate can't relate to what the huge majority of "mediocre" parents do when it comes to childcare and working.
When she says things like that (can't work in nursing due to childcare costs) it's so condescending, really, to all the parents who manage to cover for each other while the other parent works.
RT @LifeTools You determine how far you go in life, nobody else. MY INSPIRATION FOR TODAY..VERY TRUE AND MUCH APPRECIATED! NOW ONWARD...;)XO
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This from a woman who has, for the past eight years, been lurching down the Road of Life and now she has stumbled into a deep pothole. There she sits, stuck, and covered with mud, flapping her hands, and ordering the passersby to move out of her way. Kate, there is no cure for stupid.
njay said... 147
No problem. Another thought--"beach challenge-like" could also mean keeping it secret where they were and what they were doing. I still think the "beach" part refers to their trip to Alabama. Remember how she wouldn't tell her tweeties where they were? She acted so coy about that.
Remember, she said that she has to fly under the radar for "HER safety".
An important thing to realize is that with her very public dismissal from CC, she no longer has anyone who is going to pick up the tab for her 'business' trips, or make arrangements for media exposure. Not forgetting that she failed miserably to give het sponsors even 1/10 of what she needed to do, and also apparently had the enormous brass balls to demand luxe accomodations and comps for herself and 'bodyguard', that all ended last week. From this point forward, the biotch is on her own dime, and no matter what juvey fun experience she and Deanna cooked up last week, it was paid for by K8. And she is too damn cheap for that to continue. Maybe she filmed, maybe she did not. Sounds like she may have a new look (as caught making her illegal turns in one of her 3 cars), maybe not. The freeby travel train has ended, and let's see how she spins hanging out at home now.
Formerly Duped said... 143
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 133
Hey there Pink!
Have you changed back from Sassy Lassy?
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Hi Formerly Duped :o)
Yeah, I'm back to A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate. Couldn't be bothered with the Google account.
I'm still meeeeeeeeeeee, though ;o)
I hope you are having a splendiferous day :o)
It's hard to decipher the meaning of 'fun bright future'. Is she peddling lightbulbs on the shopping channel? I can't imagine who would dare to associate themselves with her at this point.
kateissociopath said... 148
Has Kate raised a stink about the content of Hoffman's book (denied it) or because she thinks he stole her diary and hard-drive?
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Audible Click corrected me yesterday...and in his book, Hoffman says that the journal and other things he got from the trash had all been burned onto discs/cd's and these were apparently all thrown out in the trash when they were cleaning out the apartment over the garage after Jon had moved out of it......and Robert took them from the trash.
But....do we even know exactly what the issue is regarding how LaVerne and Shirley got the sale of his book suspended? Do we even know if it's an issue regarding how Robert got the journal/cd's? Because I seem to have a memory of reading someone speculating or saying that the problem was related to Robert quoting passages from Kate's book(s).
That apparently, there are publishing rules or copyright laws regarding just how much one can "copy" from someone else's published work and the the person has to be credited in a certain way to make it legal.
Please forgive me....I'm just pulling this from the closet in the back of my brain so it's kinda vague......but are we even sure what the exact issue is in terms what L&S used to get the book suspended from Amazon?
For some reason....my recollection is that when it first got pulled from Amazon, there was talk of it being related to passages he'd used from Kate's already published book(s)...primarily "I Just Want You to Know...." but then over time, it began to morph into people thinking it had to do with the legality of how Robert obtained the journals.
Does anyone have any info on this? Or know what L&S used as a legal basis to get the book suspended from Amazon? Thanks. :)
dee3 said... 122
Layla said.......103
3. The person who, if you believe the GosselinBook, knew about the child abuse but did nothing to save his kids? But who told the world that Kate was a great mother?
We don't know what he did to save his kids. Court records are sealed, as are CPS files. There is some debate about whether he actually said she was a great mother. It has been reported that he said, "She is a mother" during the interview, and that statement was altered.
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I do think, IIRC, Jon did say that Kate was a "great mother"......BUT....this was back during the time when Jon was under a gag order, they'd made him sign an agreement to never mention the abuse, TLC had threatened to sue him for breach of contract....and he had literally been bound and gagged by TLC and by everyone who TLC threatened and influenced.
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The quote about her being a "great mother" is from an interview given within the last few months, NOT when he was under a gag order.
I think she just stayed in New York, had a hair makeover, probably ran around with her friend pampering themselves making believe like nothing has happened.
dee3 said... 157
kateissociopath said... 148
Has Kate raised a stink about the content of Hoffman's book (denied it) or because she thinks he stole her diary and hard-drive?
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Audible Click corrected me yesterday...and in his book, Hoffman says that the journal and other things he got from the trash had all been burned onto discs/cd's and these were apparently all thrown out in the trash when they were cleaning out the apartment over the garage after Jon had moved out of it......and Robert took them from the trash.
But....do we even know exactly what the issue is regarding how LaVerne and Shirley got the sale of his book suspended? Do we even know if it's an issue regarding how Robert got the journal/cd's? Because I seem to have a memory of reading someone speculating or saying that the problem was related to Robert quoting passages from Kate's book(s).
That apparently, there are publishing rules or copyright laws regarding just how much one can "copy" from someone else's published work and the the person has to be credited in a certain way to make it legal.
Please forgive me....I'm just pulling this from the closet in the back of my brain so it's kinda vague......but are we even sure what the exact issue is in terms what L&S used to get the book suspended from Amazon?
For some reason....my recollection is that when it first got pulled from Amazon, there was talk of it being related to passages he'd used from Kate's already published book(s)...primarily "I Just Want You to Know...." but then over time, it began to morph into people thinking it had to do with the legality of how Robert obtained the journals.
Does anyone have any info on this? Or know what L&S used as a legal basis to get the book suspended from Amazon? Thanks. :)
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Dee3, if my memory serves me correctly,
the reason the book was pulled from Amazon, was because Robert had information about TLC practices that they did not want published.
Anyone want to elaborate?
Audible Click said... 152 and OrangeCrusher1 said... 154:
Excellent comments and excellent points.
The stuff she's tweeting is almost getting uncomfortable to read. Reminds me of "I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. DeVille". I'm almost visualizing Norma Desmond's crazed eyes from that scene.
Heather 100 said
My son's b-day is coming up and we are simply having a cake with pop pop and grandma, and taking him out to a place he loves to go. I would like to have just a few of his friends over at my house for silly games, but it also seems the "invite the whole class" thing/plus the parents is in play, and we can't afford that, let alone get that many people in our small house. It's kind of a sad situation, with political/parental ramifications. Sigh.
Thanks again for all the replies.
heather
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I don't know how young your little one is, but I will tell you, years from now, the bday parties spent with parents and grandparents are much more special and memorable than some of the bday parties where you invite the whole class..,(well, you WILL remember those wild invite-the-whole-class-parties, but it won't probably be a positive memory,lol)I've had plenty of kid parties in the past, and some of them just get way out of hand and you are spending a fortune to entertain a lot of kids. Those kind of parties are a full hour or two of like trying to ride a bucking bronco!
My kids at one point were getting invited to a party almost every weekend (sometimes two a weekend), and it got to the point where we only went to kid's parties that they were actually friends with.
As my kids got older, the dreaded slumberparty reared its ugly head, lol...we've had disastrous results by inviting too many, so we finally got it down to inviting 1 or 3, and those were so much nicer. (Invite an odd number, so with the bday child, it makes an even number...kids ALWAYS pair up).
Thank goodness my kids have outgrown the kid parties...now we have a small family celebration at home, they pick the meal and their favorite dessert, and then open the gift that pleases every teenager...MONEY.
:)
have a great time celebrating your child's bday with grandparents at your child's favorite place...take plenty of pictures!!
An oldie but a goodie - Robert has a link to this in his book and it sure is interesting reading the outrage that Berk's county residents had when KK was asking to keep the Medicaid paid Nurse for her "disabled" babies back in 2005:
http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/mother/archives/2005/05/here_we_go_agai.html
dee3, it reminds me of Casey Anthony stuck in her house before the 2nd arrest/trial, giggling about all the news people trying to photograph her. Helicopters circling the house. She loved it.
They are in their own little world.
....I am still waiting for Twisted Kate.
Excerpts of letter to RH from Amazon regarding pulling of book:
We’ve received a notice from a third party claiming that the distribution of the following title you submitted for sale through the Amazon Kindle Store may not be properly authorized by the appropriate rights holder.....
We take violations of intellectual property rights very seriously. The submission of titles that violate third-party rights is a violation of our agreement and may lead to suspension or termination of your account, among other remedies. Please ensure that you own sufficient rights for all your ebook titles to publish them on the Kindle.
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/
here's my POV - Kate said on Katie Couric that she has a babysitter 20-ish hours per week right now...that's while UNEMPLOYED. If she went back to work as a nurse during the day, she would only need a sitter for maybe an hour before school and a couple of hours after school which would still end up being 20-ish hours per week...with that said, HOW can she afford a babysitter for that long right now while NOT working, but couldn't afford it as a NURSE?! she is such an idiot and she must really think everyone is too stupid to figure out that we ALL KNOW she doesn't want to work for a living, she just wants to flash her donkey teeth to a camera and spend quality time AWAY from her kids with her much needed purseboy!
The letter from Amazon, which Robert posted on his blog said:
We’ve received a notice from a third party claiming that the distribution of the following title you submitted for sale through the Amazon Kindle Store may not be properly authorized by the appropriate rights holder.
As a result, we’ve suspended sales of this title, pending further investigation.
Below is the contact information of the third party who claims you infringed its rights. We expect that you’ll compensate this party appropriately for any infringing copies sold:
LAVELY & SINGER
espiegel@lavelysinger.com
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Kate's lawyers were the ones who got the book pulled. What rights they're claiming were infringed is up for speculation. It could mean excerpts from Kate's books, or excerpts from Kate's journal or both.
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 160
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From R. Hoffman's blog:
Below is the contact information of the third party who claims you infringed its rights. We expect that you’ll compensate this party appropriately for any infringing copies sold:
LAVELY & SINGER
espiegel@lavelysinger.com
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IIRC, TLC has their own attorneys....who also sent Robert a letter....but it was Lavely & Singer that actually got the book suspended....right?
That's what has made me assume that the suspension issue was directly related to Kate herself....not to TLC.
Or do I have this wrong?
My memory is that TLC's attorneys sent a letter but the book went on sale despite this. But then.....Kate's attorneys got the book suspended approximately 2 or so days after it was released....and I thought it was related to copyright-type issues.
I need to try to find more accurate and relevant info on Robert's blog. It can be a little difficult to find things there for me.
Buttercup said... 163
An oldie but a goodie - Robert has a link to this in his book and it sure is interesting reading the outrage that Berk's county residents had when KK was asking to keep the Medicaid paid Nurse for her "disabled" babies back in 2005:
http://internetservices.readingeagle.com/blog/mother/archives/2005/05/here_we_go_agai.html
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Wow, Buttercup.
People knew back in 2005 that Kate was a grifting manipulator. Good grief, she has not changed at all.
It's going to take years & years to shake it off, and redeem herself (if she wants).
Goodness. I could understand a few people disagreeing with her- and that being just a difference of opinions. BUT how is it possible that SO MANY PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS see Kate for what she is, call her out for it- and yet, Kate still thinks that we are all wrong?
"Something smells rotten in Denmark"...
Dee3,
From Sept. archive of RH's Blog
Scroll down.
Includes letter from Discovery attorney
Funny, yet sad. Deanna's just one big enabler:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
RT @LifeTools You determine how far you go in life, nobody else. MY INSPIRATION FOR TODAY..VERY TRUE AND MUCH APPRECIATED! NOW ONWARD...;)XO
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@Kateplusmy8 @lifetools I love that quote--and I'm so glad that we are both living the autobiographies that we want to write! :)
Journals ARE autobiographies. duh.
And they were not copyrighted. I think TLC wants details of contracts out, and kate's lawyers want quotes from her books out.
Jeepers creepers, interesting WHY?? hasn't been back since there are actual, reasoned answers to his/her questions!
OK...I think I found what I was looking for on Robert's blog and let me see if I can write this coherently and so it makes logical sense:
AFTER the book had been released and on Amazon for several days, Kate's attorneys (Lavely & Singer) got it suspended....and for me, the critical line in the letter was this:
"We take violations of intellectual property rights very seriously."
PRIOR to the book being released....in fact, it was back in September....TLC's attorneys sent Robert a letter which included:
LAW OFFICES of WILLIAMS & CONNOLLY LLP
725 TWELFTH STREET, N.W.
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20005-5901
(202) 434-5000
September 28, 2012
Dear Mr. Hoffman:
This firm represents Discovery Communications, Inc. TLC, and Discovery Talent Services, Inc. ("Discovery")
Discovery is concerned that your self-published book entitled "Kate Gosselin: How She Fooled the World," which we are reviewing now, contains Discovery's trade secret and other confidential information protected by law.
Discovery demands that you immediately cease and desist from the publication or dissemination of its confidential information. A more detailed letter is forthcoming.
BUT.....the book still got released, despite the letter from TLC's attorneys.....but then several days later, Kate's attorneys, L&S got the book pulled based on "intellectual property rights"......which to ME sounds like it would be related to something Kate had written (and published).
I'm just trying to logically figure this out and I have no legal training so I could be totally off-base.
But I have a recollection that back when the book got pulled....that I read something suggesting or indicating that it was related to the parts of Kate's already published book/books Robert had included in his own book.
But I'm making the assumption that "intellectual property" is not the same as "trade secrets"......and I would have to rely on someone with legal training to let me know if I'm correct or out in left field somewhere.
Deanna Bell @deannatweeting
@Kateplusmy8 @lifetools I love that quote--and I'm so glad that we are both living the autobiographies that we want to write! :)
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Ack! I think I said something similar to my bestie girlfriend when I was in 10th grade.
For the tenth time, discussions of "drive bys" the house are not allowed here. It doesn't matter whether it was on the way to someplace you legitimately had to go, it's NOT ALLOWED, PERIOD. Is there any way else I can say this to make it clear?
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I'm assuming this was meant for me, and I apologize for posting about it a few days ago when someone asked me about the dog. I didn't know that I wasn't allowed to say that I haven't seen him. My question is, though, and I ask this sincerely and without snark, snottiness or sarcasm...if I see the dog, I should not post that I saw him?
Again, I'm very sorry.
On Sept. 25, Robert posted a letter from Kate's attorneys. It's too long to repost here, but this is an excerpt:
"More specifically, this letter is to place you on notice that our client will sue you, and any and all persons acting in concert with you, if the Proposed Book contains any private, privileged, false and/or defamatory information, or otherwise violates our client’s legal rights.. Likewise, our client will take legal action if you further contact and harass and/or threaten our client. Your conduct is obviously part of some twisted and malicious vendetta or scheme by you aimed at the harassment of and/or maligning our client, and/or a cowardly anonymous effort by you to obtain media attention through your unlawful conduct.
http://gosselinbook.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2012-09-25T21:35:00-07:00&max-results=7&reverse-paginate=true
So it seems to all boil down to her lawyers saying that Robert violated Kate's rights by publishing the book, which is what they also told Amazon.
How Robert can get around this, I don't know. I just hope that he does. I'm sure the re-editing of the book will somehow accomplish that.
Oh....and let me add one more thing. The main reason I'm interested in this is that Robert has said that his book is being edited and re-released.
And what I'm wondering/hoping is that the main focus of this editing is to make sure that whatever quotes Robert used from Kate's book/books....they are of legal length and are properly documented/attributed to author (for some reason, I have this recollection that there was an issue over how long the specific quotes directly from someone else's book can be to make it legal)
Because:
1. At least to me...."intellectual property rights" would relate to something already published........not journal or diary things you tossed in the trash. And the issue would be illegally obtaining info (which has never been specifically mentioned in any of the legal letters he was sent)....if it related to the journals.....whereas "intellectual property rights" would be related to book/books quotes.
And:
2. If it had been related to TLC and their trade secrets, the book would have been suspended due to a letter from their own attorneys, Williams & Connolly.....but it wasn't. It was suspended right after a letter was sent from Lavely&Singer, Kate's attorneys, over intellectual property issues.
So to me.....if it's simply cleaning up the quotes from Kate's book, making sure they are of the right length and attributing them to the author correctly to make them legally kosher.......I would think the book could be re-released soon.....without involving any lawsuits involved.
But this is just me trying to logically speculate.
As far as TLC goes, Robert technically did not reveal any "trade secrets". If any trade secrets were revealed, they were revealed by KATE, in Kate's journals and emails.
Robert only published Kate's words.
Kate is a twit said... 177
On Sept. 25, Robert posted a letter from Kate's attorneys. It's too long to repost here, but this is an excerpt:
"More specifically, this letter is to place you on notice that our client will sue you, and any and all persons acting in concert with you, if the Proposed Book contains any private, privileged, false and/or defamatory information, or otherwise violates our client’s legal rights.. Likewise, our client will take legal action if you further contact and harass and/or threaten our client. Your conduct is obviously part of some twisted and malicious vendetta or scheme by you aimed at the harassment of and/or maligning our client, and/or a cowardly anonymous effort by you to obtain media attention through your unlawful conduct.
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Boy, that sounds kinda whiny and melodramatic for a lawyer. :D
See....this is what LaVerne and Shirley sent Robert BEFORE the book went on sale on Amazon....and to me, it sounds like they had not even read it yet and were just throwing out random "IF IT CONTAINS" threats, hoping to intimidate him and keep him from releasing it.
And it's very telling, at least to me.....that when it did get released and sold copies for about 2 days.....LaVerne and Shirley popped back up and sent another letter, NEVER mentioning "false or defamatory" info......but only "intellectual property rights" issues.....isn't it?
As if.....they finally got around to reading it and figured out it was the only thing they could use to pull the book off Amazon with.
I have my fingers crossed over here that the book is being edited to fix the quotes from Kate's book/books problem.....and probably being cleaned up for grammar, punctuation, timeline, etc......and that it can be re-released soon.
Over In Kate's County said... 176
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I agree with you. There are so many here begging for info about the dog, and what are you supposed to do if you happen to be driving by and see it? not share? geez, you can't win! lol
I don't consider it stalking if you live in the area and are driving by there anyway. dang!
I hope the dog isn't there. She doesn't like the dog. I hope Jon has it.
I'm sorry you feel in a tough spot.
aggiemom09121416 said... 181
Over In Kate's County said... 176
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I agree with you. There are so many here begging for info about the dog, and what are you supposed to do if you happen to be driving by and see it? not share? geez, you can't win! lol
I don't consider it stalking if you live in the area and are driving by there anyway. dang!
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Well, then, start your own blog and allow post after post about people driving by her house. It doesn't matter what *you* consider stalking or inappropriate behavior, as it's not *your* blog.
@dee3 said... 178
That was a clear and concise post outlining what I've been thinking you wrote it better than I ever could. Thanks for taking the time to post this it seems like Laverne & Shirley LLC attempted to use the, very old legal tactic, of "lets throw some legalese scare words the them and see what works".
Amazon has to pull any book that generates a letter from a lawyer/law firm. That's simply self protection. I have hopes that RH's book will return soon. I've seen disputed books return after only a few weeks, so lets keep our fingers crossed.
If you misinterpreted what I said I am sorry. That is not what I meant.
There are post after post here begging for info on the dog.
That's it.
Not stalking. that's creepy.
Have a gr8t day!!
It sounds like she's still using her 'can we sue?' device on anything that stands in her way. Redeeming herself is going to be expensive. I hope Kate Gosselin ends up spending all her money on lawyers. Every. last. freaking. dime.
I think we've learned enough about her to know what she is without having to say another word about Shoka.
I just looked at the Reading Eagle blog; it appears that the good people of PA were rightfully upset by the Gosselin shenanigans way back in '05. So major thanks to TLC for creating the enabling circus that followed, and encouraging the creation of Monster Mom. It served them well, and yes, Kate was all that crazy back when, but when media attention came, she became a fully developed narcissist. What an awful realization.
I understand, at least I think I do (never a sure bet...) What Robert did concerning the release of the book. He obtained a baseline legal OK to put it out there, probably knowing it would be pulled quickly. If re-released after the legal eagles do their schtick I hope the "editing" is ONLY on the arrangement of the material, deletion of repetitive bits and Robert's personal commentary. No editing on the content of Kate's journal, e-mail or Robert's notes written for US Weekly to actually write a story, If they chose. Those journal entries, e-mail and his notes are the raw content that makes this so powerful. Any editing of those will further cement in the sheeple's minds that he made it all up or twisted things - taking it out of content, which will probably happen regardless. I guess I expect the contracts in their entirety will be deleted. While they tell of story of Discovery and TLC machinations with regard to the Gosselin family and illustrate how the family sort of "sold their soul", it's possible from Kate's journal and e-mails to get that story across.
Kate sure can't blame ambien. Well, I guess she can, but "I" would vehemently object. Because writing up objections is MY job. Admin said so.
gabby2 said... 123
My guess, too. Yoga for beginners on the beach. BUT, she won't get any sponsors. It is what it is....she gets to prance around naked for purseboy. She must be getting desperate since I don't see he's left his wife.
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When Andy asked Kate was she still single she said say twice.
My thing was She hopelessly in love with Steve and. She wants him to put a ring on it and be with her.
But Steve is probably still with Gina or he's just.
Playing her so her can get a paycheck and perks. Or it's both.
I don't think Steve wants Kate just her money and trips.
I'm not easily alarmed by anything related to Kate Gosselin anymore, but have any of you been peeking at her Twitter today? There is a seriously unstable man over there tweeting crazy things and now two of her big fans are encouraging him. Without wanting to sound paranoid, this needs a serious look in my opinion. One glance at his profile was enough to cause me concern. Jon, do you read here? These two fans could be leading a truly unbalanced individual right to the door of your children's house. How far does Kate's sick quest for fame and stardom have to go before someone really gets into trouble or gets hurt over it? I will never understand why or how her fans can claim to care about her when I see them egging on a man like this who is obviously ill.
I love how the media is, still stuck on Kate doing the news in the nude for a porn channel. GEEZ!, who would want to see that shank naked! It's bad enough when she goes around in a bikini.
She has no shape, just fake boobs.
Dwindle said... 86
I'm too tired to log in guys. That glycerin sin't working so good anymore!
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sin't?? :) time for ambien!
@Audible Click said... 183
Thanks Audible. I had written up this whole comment to you to see if your impression matched mine....but lost the internet and lost the whole thing. My son had switched me from firefox to Chrome due to the same problem and now it's happening again...and I'll have to get him back over here. I keep having to shut down, disconnect and reconnect the modem, and then reboot and it's driving me crazy.
@Flight of the Kiwi said... 187
I tend to think that they will edit just like you're hoping they will. My general speculation is that TLC is not really all that concerned about "trade secrets" and would deem it a bad idea to pursue any sort of lawsuit and that the main hold up relates to how Robert quoted passages from Kate's book/books. I have such a strong recollection of reading about this back right after the book was pulled......and the fact that L&S only indicated "intellectual property rights" in their letter to Amazon makes me feel more certain.
I wasn't able to get the book in time, but from what I have read here, it seems it could benefit from some editing for general clean-up...to tighten it up, correct grammar, etc. I don't think...and hope....that they are going to leave the soul of the book intact. Robert made a huge point of maintaining that on his blog.....and indicated that it was why he'd initially released it unedited.
I think you make a good point regarding his possibly fully realizing it would get pulled....but releasing it anyway. Perhaps it could have been a test run to see just WHAT either (or both) law firm(s) would come up with to have it pulled....esp. if they'd not read it prior to it being released.....and after reading it, W&C sent nothing and L&S only disputed the "intellectual property rights" issues.......so that THIS is what's getting cleaned up and made legally kosher.
And yes, Audible....let's all keep our fingers crossed. :)
If a local has to drive by Kate's house to get from point A to point B, not a bypass of your route, and spots the dog running on the property, I see no harm in reporting it. If you are deliberately driving by often, slowing down, and waiting to see any dog activity, then that seems to me stalking. Kate can't accuse anyone of stalking unless it is repeated, with the intent to harm, and causes her fear. It's a public road in front of her house.
Admin - I'm having the 1980's heirloom faux ultra suede brown Lazy-Boy recliner steam cleaned, fumigated and bedazzled ( 9 year old GD contribution) so it'll be worthy of the throne room for you or the designated holder of the scepter :) Then you/they can speak from the chair - the "ex cathedra" thing and all. I'll give a shout out when it's ready. I estimate the 12th of never.
Why....What I would like to know is, what do all of you who think Roberts book is just going to hurt the children, think is the PERFECT solution. It looks like what is most important to you who think this way is you are more concerned that because the kids now can read about the abuse,it will do more damage than the abuse that they experienced. Or that bringing to light the abuse will cause the kids to be taken away from their mom so therefore they will be mom-less. It does not have to end with the kids not having a mommy. It can end that they will have a healed mommy if she gets help.
THOSE CHILDREN ARE DAMAGED GOODS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. It is now about who can provide the safest environment and offer what ever help necessary to heal what is already damaged in their little precious minds. As far as Jon calling Kate a good mother. I am sick of hearing he is a horrible person for calling her that. What was he to say. What win win answer should he have given. Call her a bad mother, he harms the children and and risks Kate not coming off her high horse and giving him 50/50 custody and an amicable relationship. Call her a good mother he is labeled a rotten father for thinking an abusive mother is a good mother.
In a PERFECT WORLD they would both be willing to work it out. I will not argue that one is more responsible than the other for not doing the right thing. What I will argue is that ALL PARTY'S INVOLVED SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND WORK TOGETHER AND GET ANY HELP NEEDED TO HEAL THOSE CHILDREN, WITH THEMSELVES FOREMOST...PERIOD!!!
If ANYONE is not willing to do that, then THEY will be the one's that should not have the responsibly of raising those children the majority of the time. PERIOD!!
One minute of history CAN NOT be changed, ONLY HEALED! It is so counter productive to try to convince each other who is worse, Jon or Kate, when what should be done is coming together with the same in the mind on what can we change, lobby, support etc, against any harm that is now, not then, happening to the children...PERIOD!!!!
HATERS AND FANS, it is el toro poo poo to say you just care about the kids and that is why you bicker back and forth, using such vile words and evil tactics to do what you think is a noble cause. When your so vile and your tactics are so evil, your agenda is to promote how wonderful you are for taking a stand. You want to convince me, use sense to teach me, not tactics.
Awwww.. I have said enough. I'm not sure anything I have said will help but I am glad I finally said it.
Re: Shoka spotting.
Could a person post 'All is well with Shoka and he looks healthy & happy." with no explanation how they know?
If a local has to drive by Kate's house to get from point A to point B, not a bypass of your route, and spots the dog running on the property, I see no harm in reporting it. If you are deliberately driving by often, slowing down, and waiting to see any dog activity, then that seems to me stalking. Kate can't accuse anyone of stalking unless it is repeated, with the intent to harm, and causes her fear. It's a public road in front of her house.
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TLC, that's the way I see it, too, and I most certainly have never, nor will ever, do anything that is considered to be stalking. I don't care if she's home cooking up a storm in her kitchen, or if she's running in her driveway with the kids cheering her on. It's admin's blog, and if she wants no mention of driving by, seeing the dog or not seeing the dog, then I understand and respect that rule. I don't want to be the cause of any trouble for admin on her blog, and I don't want to break any rules.
I posted earlier today that I wondered why no-one has a clue where Shoka is, that there is no local chat regarding his whereabouts. The person I would like to see comment is Jon, but I believe he is off Twitter. News will come, but if someone local sees Shoka frolicking through the yard, I would like to hear about it. Stalking, of course not.
Didn't Jon get raked over the coals by Chris Cuomo?
Wasn't Jon "trying"to get his side out there and it was kind od an ambush? Did he not say "I despise Kate" and the media went nuts? Njay I couldn"t agree more! Stop the blame game and tit for tat and get some professional help. Jon will get skewered no matter what he says.
How do you email the Administrator here? I'm looking all over the page and can't find it.
I just want to let her know that I'm doing a lot of research right now regarding the HBB situation and collecting the things I think parallel the Gosselin situation....mainly in terms of TLC's involvement in the damage to them.
When I get it all collected, I'd love to send it to her so she can decide if it's worth making an entry for.
Is her email on this page somewhere? Thanks all. :)
Dee, look at Rule #2. It's there.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 1
Dee, look at Rule #2. It's there.
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Ahh.....thank you SO much.
Another question....I had read what Canuck had written up there regarding someone of questionable sanity/motives tweeting to Kate on twitter. How would one go and be able to read that? Would one have to be a member of twitter? The only thing I know how to do is to google Kate's twitter name but can only see what SHE tweets. Is there even a way for a non-twitter member to be able to read what others are tweeting to HER?
Thanks. :)
Kate had a chance to put him in the picnic photo she put on twitter yesterday but said he couldn't be there because he'd eat all the lunches. Well if you look closely it appears as if lunch is just about over. Plate is flipped upside down and one of the boys is getting ready to dig into his container of apple sauce. So what was stopping her from waiting a few minutes and then letting him join the kids outside? Nothing. Oh wait. Maybe because he wasn't inside or anywhere else on the property. She's going to duck this one until it goes away. Obviously she told Milo what happened to him because she finally quit asking.
Good grief. For someone who said there doesn't need to be another word said about Shoka I just blew it big time.
Anyway, the point is I really doubt that she has him anymore. I truly hope he's alive and well though.
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