"We did the best we could."
Chris Cuomo's moving interview with Aaron Fisher, 18, otherwise known as "Victim Number 1" is so important we thought it deserved its own post.
How did teachers, principals, police, investigators, prosecutors, Pennsylvania's Office of Children, Youth and Families (CYS), therapists and two grand juries let Jerry Sandusky continue to molest children for three years after Aaron first reported the abuse to them? Chris Cuomo tries to find out why, and hold people accountable."Why are you moving so fast now when you moved so slowly when Aaron needed your help?" Cuomo shouts to a school principal running away from him. Karen Probst, mandated by law to report any abuse, instructed Aaron to go home and think about it when he first disclosed the abuse to her. She is still principal.
Will anyone ever be held accountable for the child abuse and child labor violations perpetrated against the Gosselin children for years? According to Robert Hoffman, he reported the child abuse allegations to CYS twice. Is this the best they could do?
Aaron's book Silence No More: Victim 1's Fight For Justice Against Jerry Sandusky is available for purchase on Amazon.com
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Welcome back, Permanent. You were missed. I've read a couple of the Mallory series, but not any lately. I just started a fun book, first in a new series, called "Foul Play At the Fair" by Shelley Freydont. I've only read a few chapters so far, but it seems good.
Kate is a twit said... 189
I think someone asked the reason why Robert did not put any of the pictures in the book. He explained it himself when he posted here on Sept. 28:
"There were originally many photos to be included in the book but because I didn't own them, I was advised to remove them all and I agreed with that decision."
My name is self explanatory-but my initials KIAT have a secret meaning that you need a special decoder ring to break.
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Blink it to us Double Deal Morse Code, OK? ready? GO!
I like the current banner. I think it's still quite relevant. And it's SO good.
admin...hang tuff. These are just hired thugs.
No one has to hire me to call her on her shit. KK continues to be a target because she wants to be a celebrity.
She should go home, get therapy and try her best to be kind and loving to her children....and lay off her ex-husband.
Permanent Name in Blue said... 181
Well, I took a while off because I was just sick to my soul when I read the book about what kart did. I needed to have some distance because I was letting her assholeyness dampen my days. I went into self-protection mode.
Y'all probably didn't even miss me, tell the truth now - LOL. And I can't believe my first post back follows some of Dwindle's hilarious uplifting comments. Perfect timing for my re-entry.
OT - OT - Cooking question.
I'm new to making my own chicken broth and in thawing some out today I am seeing... I guess I would call it floaty separations as it thaws. It's not fat or sediment...
My question is: is this separation normal and should I just shake it and use it normally in soup? Homemade chicken vegetable soup tomorrow!!! Hopefully!
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Permanent Name in Blue - We knew you were with us in thought though. We have special powers.
About your chicken soup stock... After it's thawed, rinse it off and throw it in a roaster pan, lid off and sprinkle some seasonings on it. Put it in the oven at 350 for about an hour or so, so it will brown up. Then take it all and put it in your BIG stock pot, put some celery, carrots, onions, a leek, a carrot...whatever you like. Add some salt, pepper, maybe a bay leaf, a clove or two of garlic, ...again whatever you like, cover it completely with water as much as you like and simmer it for a couple of hours. Then strain it and voila the best stock ever. You can pick through the chicken when it's cooled, take out the bones and skin and add it to your soup. Skim off the fat, but leave a little for taste. (SoSueme...it gives the soup the flavor)
Nanu Nanu.
Permanent Name in Blue said... 181
Well, I took a while off because I was just sick to my soul when I read the book about what kart did. I needed to have some distance because I was letting her assholeyness dampen my days. I went into self-protection mode.
Y'all probably didn't even miss me, tell the truth now - LOL. And I can't believe my first post back follows some of Dwindle's hilarious uplifting comments. Perfect timing for my re-entry.
OT - OT - Cooking question.
I'm new to making my own chicken broth and in thawing some out today I am seeing... I guess I would call it floaty separations as it thaws. It's not fat or sediment...
My question is: is this separation normal and should I just shake it and use it normally in soup? Homemade chicken vegetable soup tomorrow!!! Hopefully!
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Well, stomp mah foot, *I* missed ya woman! And Ah DID notice yuu was gone! (Actually several folks took time out to go puke up any tidbit of sympathy they might have had left for That Woman).
If what you are describing in your broth is what I am picturing, yes you can use as is, no need to strain.
Dwindle said... 6
If what you are describing in your broth is what I am picturing, yes you can use as is, no need to strain.
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lol Dwindle. I told her to strain it and you said no need to. We have encountered a danger will robinson signal. Wires crossed. Danger.
Dwindle said... 2
I sent it through the super sub-space Federation channel in Vulcan mind-meld code. Hope you received it okay, and were able to translate without any problem.
Auntie Ann, Dwindle and Readerlady,
Oh, it's good to be missed!
Actually, the ONLY reason I came back is because of the nice posters here. Y'all are good people, as my mama used to say.
Dwindle, thank you for the ok. I had strained it very carefully when I first made it, the cooled it in fridge to solidify the fat, scooped that off then froze it. I ended up with 6 quarts of it so I'm glad it isn't bad or ruined.
I think I may just stick with vegetable stock from here on - it's easier to make, faster and doesn't require so many steps.
Auntie Ann,
I had already done all the steps you mentioned. I had to laugh at first because I was trying to figure out how you meant for me to *rinse off my broth*! Then I figured out you were talking about steps I'd already completed.
I did all the steps you mentioned, and did strain it before freezing.
OK, now we're all back on the same channel!!!
Commence engine start.........
Permanent Name in Blue said... 10
Auntie Ann,
I had already done all the steps you mentioned. I had to laugh at first because I was trying to figure out how you meant for me to *rinse off my broth*! Then I figured out you were talking about steps I'd already completed.
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Oh geez. Sorry Permanent. You'd already made the stock. haha. I thought you were talking about the frozen chicken itself. lol.
I see Kate is doing the quote crap again. Didn't she do that last time something happened.
Lukbandit: you better believe Jon did computer back up/rescue disc. My brother is a computer person and he always backs up his computer. Jon is an/was and IT person, they always back-up everything.
Permanent -- What you're seeing on the surface of your stock is likely small globules of fat. The method you described doesn't remove all traces of fat, and, as AA points out, it does taste better with a little fat left in. It's fine to use.
KIAT -- No wonder I couldn't translate your message. I thought it was in Cardassian, not Vulcan. My bad.
It would make perfect sense for Jon to burn discs of all the things either one of them would not want to lose if a computer crashed.
My friends encourage me to back up all my stuff.
I even have backups of backups for some things.
What I think is funny is that Jon may have left them there for Kate's benefit. All those important papers and her journals carefully stashed out of her way but still quite accessible if she ever needed them. He may have had his own copies of some of it, but left
the first set of copies for Kate - plus her journal.
Wouldn't it have been a hoot if Jon had even left a note telling Kate she might want to keep these CDs?
And then, in a fit of pique, she had her hired
hands toss out every single scrap of everything in Jon's apartment.
A very nice gesture taken as "more worka" and ends up biting her on her bikini line.
It makes me smile.
Another subject:
I told you all several days ago I had emailed Rep. Thomas Murt in PA. I got a nice reply today.
Kate is a twit said... 8
Dwindle said... 2
I sent it through the super sub-space Federation channel in Vulcan mind-meld code. Hope you received it okay, and were able to translate without any problem.
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The Borg hijacked my mind in mid-meld but only temporarily and tried to assimilate it through their transconduit hub, but resistance is NOT futile and I retrieved the secret sonic transwarp communication.I escaped the clutches of the Borg with my eyeballs and heirloom pearl necklace barely intact and I installed the Secret Coded Communication in my left earring, which is code for the right stem of my reading glasses, and it is being decoded now at the Operations Station in the mess hall. Behind the salad bar. Based on Admin's bank account info that I suddenly have telepathic knowledge of, my mind meld techniques have not suffered permanent damage.
THAT was exhausting!
I found out what Kate was doing all that time she was gone. She was at presidential camp (snark) writing both debate speeches for the candidates tonight. That totally explains CC's firing her.
She applied for the correspondent position that, after the debate is over, explains what the candidates were really saying. They decided that with Kate's latest experience with CC, writing the debates would be the best position for her latest experience and expertise.
Thanks iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. That explains it.
(did I spell your name right?)
fidosmommy said... 17
Thanks iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. That explains it.
(did I spell your name right?)
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I didn't even spell it right. I'm njay, help. I've been abducted.
I'm njay, help. I've been abducted.
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Oh my. Well, here's what you do. Channel Kate.
Tell them that you're in charge and that's never going to change. Tell them if they don't know how to help you, they're goners. Enough of that kind of talk and they'll let you go, sure enough.
Write when you get back. I'll keep the light on.
I dont know why I didnt post this much sooner. Maybe because Alanis Morissette is an acquired taste.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_1BQRAkcyc&feature=related
"Perfect"
Sometimes is never quite enough.
If you're flawless, then you'll win my love
Don't forget to win first place
Don't forget to keep that smile on your face
Be a good boy
Try a little harder
You've got to measure up
And make me prouder
How long before you screw it up
How many times do I have to tell you to hurry up
With everything I do for you
The least you can do is keep quiet
Be a good girl
You've gotta try a little harder
That simply wasn't good enough
To make us proud
I'll live through you
I'll make you what I never was
If you're the best, then maybe so am I
Compared to him compared to her
I'm doing this for your own damn good
You'll make up for what I blew
What's the problem...why are you crying
Be a good boy
Push a little farther now,
That wasn't fast enough
To make us happy
We'll love you just the way you are
If you're perfect
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii said... 18
fidosmommy said... 17
Thanks iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. That explains it.
(did I spell your name right?)
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I didn't even spell it right. I'm njay, help. I've been abducted.
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It's the Borg. I knew it.
Hang on NJay! I'm handing out phasers!
Of course, our dear Admin will need her coffee first before she activates the transporters for the rescue party...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CvqXjp87-s&feature=player_embedded This is child abuse, pure and simple. "Dr" Drew, an asshole in and of himself, is a willing participant in it.
It makes me angry enough to want to spit nails. Has anyone called CPS over this bullshit?!
I don't know if I would call it child abuse, lots of kids in the public eye give interviews, but that kid is rebelling that's for sure. Refusing to participate in interviews, pretending to be asleep, saying the "wrong" answer when asked if she wants to be on T.V. I.e. NO! She seems overworked and legitimately tired.
It wouldn't surprise me if the Gosselin kids rebelled like this, it just ended up on the cutting room floor. Remember when Cara disappeared from the couch it was just Mady, then one day Kate admitted oh so casually that Cara doesn't like to do interviews anymore. There was way more to that story.
The child more than rebelled. When asked if she likes to be on tv, she resoundingly said "NO!"
Even if she hadn't given us a verbal answer, her non-verbal behaviour was deafening.
I'm pissed off about this. Obviously.
Dwindle:
I love that song! I was in my 20's during the Alanis hey day. Perfect choice! "My name is Luca" by Susanne Vega also comes to mind.
I agree with you about Cara. My heart breaks for those kids if they were pushed to the point that this child was. And her name is ALANA, 'Dr' Drew. Every new tv appearance, it appears the little girl gains another 5 pounds. Have you not seen the pics of her wearing Depends? the entire thing is a travesty. TLC IS the devil.
Yet another example of why a set teacher is so very important. They do far more than just teach math. They can be highly trained in child labor laws and child protection. A set teacher has the power to say sorry no more work today, Alana is tired. Too bad so sad for Dr. Drew.
Shouldn't the good 'dr.' have ethics, too? Why did he not put a stop to this? I'm no doctor but even I can see that this isn't right. What an asshole Drew is. He and Shill, I mean Phil must have been separated at birth.
And did you catch 'mama' June saying "yeah, right!" after her OWN CHILD sayd NO, she doesn't like being on tv? Negating her own child's feelings. Wow. Conflict of interest. It's your DAUGHTER. 'Mama' ain't fit to be a mother, IMO.
Njay, are you still on the Borg ship? Don't worry, I will scoot right on over before I go to work! With the help of some handy-dandy gadgets from www.thinkgeek.com of course!
I can get there in a jiffy with my Dr. Who TARDIS beach towel! I will then proceed to slice thru any Borg red tape with my Star Trek Enterprise Pizza Slicer, which I keep extra sharp! My Monty Python Killer Rabbit slippers will eat the feet of any Borg while I have them distracted, then they can't chase us!
Once back on the TARDIS beach towel (available from thinkgeek.com) w can play mancala on our trip home. Mancala is played with rocks. Which Ms Kreider is incapable of caring for (on topic! Yea me!)
Off to work to save more of the world!
Looks like Alana is not enjoying being a child star. Poor thing must be exhausted and tired of this media round. She doesn't like fans coming up to her. Oh boy here we go again.
YAY!!! I'm back! Sheesh, that was scary. Nothing like living the show Fire in the Sky. Thanks Fidosmommy, I saw your light guiding me back. I did exactly what you said I should do and that's when everything around me went blurry and my surroundings became unfamiliar. That's the last time I park outside her fence.
WARNING, WARNING...Don't drive, fly, run, walk or sprint anywhere near her house. It's a scary experience. I'm throwing away my tin foil hat and replacing it with my motorcycle helmet. I should have taken that precaution in the first place. Boy it's good to be home. Did anyone notice the profile picture next to that crazy name? I'm pretty sure it is Kate and Jamie. In the picture they both look a like.
For the sheeple and Why, I was joking about parking outside her fence. I'm a couple of thousand miles away from her house. Around 10,000 miles of wasted real estate.
njay said... 32
For the sheeple and Why
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Sounds like a statement from the Department of Redundancy Department
My user name is a riff on Kate's aspirational tendencies. She calls everything beyond reach, save for grifting, "my dream!!!!!!!!!"
I was tickled to see that RH actually devoted an entire chapter to this strategy. Apparently it was something she & her p.r. team dreamed up, to garner more sympathy -- and goodies -- for Kate. Transparent, much?
Those dreams are growing more improbable by the day.
The very apparent differnce between this new TLC child exploitation endeavour and the G8 is that this child is the "boss". I think she is very much induldged and I don't think she is ever given rules to follow or has any consequences. She is not terrorized by her mother to "play nice" (cough cough, or else) Don't get me wrong, it's exploitation plain and simple, but honey boo boo child is genuinely loved by her parents. As far as the mother goes, she was involved in her community way before TLC came along. Their house was the place to drop in if you needed anything from her coupon stockpile.
I don't even see how the validity of backing up stuff on the computer is debatable. Anyone that questions this must be NOT of the computer age.
J&K seemed to have done A LOT of business over email (not surprising....). They basically have contract negotiations and discussions, requests, changes etc via email. So why WOULDN'T these be backed up? God forbid if someone tells Kate "Sorry we didn't discuss that freebie" she can pull up the email and say "in your face, did too!"
I don't know anyone that doesn't back up their computer and files on a regular basis, at least to some extent...even to an online file like dropbox. It is as common a practice as breathing, let alone if someone does important things on their computer - school work, research, banking, BUSINESS (ie Jand K).
Just an FYI for those who have said their posts have disappeared. What happened to me a little bit ago was crazy. When I clicked on "comment as" to put in njay, the drop down no longer had the name/url as a choice. I tried open ID but when I hit publish it gave me a reply at the top saying ID credentials not validated. I tried signing in on google and that is when iiiiiiii showed up with my post and at the top of the comment area it said it would post after approval. Admin, I don't know if you had anything to do with that or if it was acting up.
Anyway, about others posts disappearing, when I started having problems there were around 1070ct. When I was able to use my name again it read around 1020 something. What happened to the fifty ct diference?
After thinking about it, I wonder if the fifty didn't disappear all at once but one or two here and there and collectively totaled fifty. That makes more sense to me than all at once and would explain our posts disappearing.
See, I knew I wasn't just crazy. Remember yesterday I mentioned that there is a time frame that everyone disappears? I also mentioned that it's around 2am or 3am. Look at the time when Greedy...28 and Joy...29 posted. There is a two hr difference and I know I was here on this blog...for real here...Where did all those posts in those two hrs go.
Maybe that's when the Swiffer crew comes on duty? I don't know. Lots of complaints lately about pulled posts!
Greedy Gosselins said... 26
I agree with you about Cara. My heart breaks for those kids if they were pushed to the point that this child was. And her name is ALANA, 'Dr' Drew. Every new tv appearance, it appears the little girl gains another 5 pounds. Have you not seen the pics of her wearing Depends? the entire thing is a travesty. TLC IS the devil.
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TLC IS the devil. I said this a few weeks ago when that article appeared saying Alana's family had issues with someone trying to break in--but TLC refused to let them move someplace more secure (and nicer). Part of TLC's schtick for this family is its back-country roots. They want them to look as poor and uneducated as possible. Can you saying, "USING"? So as the family gains more money, they will naturally want to live as though they do. Then the fakery begins. It's Gosselins 2.
The weight gain has shown itself on Dance Moms, too. (On Lifetime, not TLC.) Most of the moms have gained weight since being on that show.
Reality TV seems like fun and money. The reality of the reality is much worse. Your life is exposed, you develop "haters" and "fans," and your life now has "storylines." So you can never return to what is actually reality because your reality has been scripted for you and people now have a perception of who you are which you cannot escape. You no longer are who God created you to be, you are who TLC, Lifetime, etc., create you to be.
This is tantamount to selling your soul to the devil. So yes, TLC, Lifetime and the other networks ARE the devil. Who else do you sell your soul to?
Very well said. Fit the script or else.
Vanessa said... 35
The very apparent differnce between this new TLC child exploitation endeavour and the G8 is that this child is the "boss". I think she is very much induldged and I don't think she is ever given rules to follow or has any consequences. She is not terrorized by her mother to "play nice" (cough cough, or else) Don't get me wrong, it's exploitation plain and simple, but honey boo boo child is genuinely loved by her parents. As far as the mother goes, she was involved in her community way before TLC came along. Their house was the place to drop in if you needed anything from her coupon stockpile.
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I am collecting info on the HBB situation, mainly looking for TLC's exploitation of the family rather than criticizing the family itself. I've refused to watch TLC for a few years now, just on principle, so I've had to wait to watch the episodes on youtube but let me just give one similar parallel.
When watching episodes 6 through 10, it seems VERY clear to me that June is DUNZO with Sugar Bear who is Alana's father. She can barely disguise it right on camera. He is not the father of the 3 older daughters but has been a devoted father-figure to them for 8 years.....and seems very close to Alana.
It appears to me that June is done with this relationship and now that money is coming in, she'd like to move on from him.....but TLC is blocking this (I'm sure via their contract). In fact, I'm sure TLC would be having a fake vow renewal episode if June and Sugar Bear were married, but they're not....so they can't. I believe that by the time they filmed these episodes, June was being forced to pretend she still was in a relationship with Sugar Bear......and if you watch his face, poor Sugar Bear is fully aware of it.
If anyone doubts what I've written, watch the episodes on youtube yourself and see how clear June is making it (that she wants OUT of the relationship with Sugar Bear). The parallels with the breaking up of the Gosselin marriage seem very clear to me.
And here you have this child...Alana....only 7 years old....who, in addition to all the stress of filming, has to realize that there is something very wrong happening between her mom and her dad.....but TLC is making them pretend everything is OK and that the relationship is still intact.
I've not seen the Dr. Drew interview but am going to watch it today and compare it to the other ones she recently did (Jimmy Kimmel, etc.) but I think this is one stressed little girl.
See Sheeple - it is against the law - at least in NC to beat your children with wooden spoons. Wonder if Kate left hers at home when she went to the Outer Banks.
Authorities say a North Carolina woman starved, beat and regularly locked three adopted her children in a room over more than a year while her ex-husband worked overseas.
The Harnett County Sheriff's Office said Monday that 37-year-old Leslie Tiesler of Cameron was charged after a long investigation involving the county's social services agency.
Tiesler had four adopted and one biological child. A 14-year-old and two 13-year-olds who were adopted told officers they were starved, beaten with a wooden spoon, and locked away in rooms.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/NC-woman-accused-of-starving-beating-children-3971955.php#ixzz2A80nuW3h
To Whomever posted earlier about Carol O'Connel's Kathy Mallory books: I loved them. Kathy Mallory is one of the all time great female protagonists, IMO.
I'd love to see a move with Charlize Theron as Kathy. WHO could be Charles, though?
Dee3 @42, I hate to say it but I think you're really reaching on this. You're seeing what you want because youlre a zealot and need a cause. I've watched and don't see that same things that you're seeing. It's very telling that you're "collecting" information. I don't want to pick a fight but I think that when you scrutinize something as closely as you seem to be doing with this show you'll find whatever you want to find.
Info on the Kathy Mallory books by Carol O'Connell here:
http://www.dancingbadger.com/carol_oconnell.htm
I didn't see Dr Drew, but I guess it did not go well? I know some of you 'like' June, but from the little I've seen, her giving that child mt Dew & Red Bull to be pumped up for pageants (pageants themselves!) turns me off. That's a mother who does not care about her child's health or wishes.Seven is too young to have the weight of carrying the success of a TV show on her shoulders.I agree TLC has ulterior motives- using HBB & fam for entertainment- a laugh at the whole family.They seem to revel in embarrassing moments to air.
Joy in Virginia said:
Njay, are you still on the Borg ship? Don't worry, I will scoot right on over before I go to work! With the help of some handy-dandy gadgets from www.thinkgeek.com of course!
I can get there in a jiffy with my Dr. Who TARDIS beach towel! I will then proceed to slice thru any Borg red tape with my Star Trek Enterprise Pizza Slicer, which I keep extra sharp! My Monty Python Killer Rabbit slippers will eat the feet of any Borg while I have them distracted, then they can't chase us!
Once back on the TARDIS beach towel (available from thinkgeek.com) w can play mancala on our trip home. Mancala is played with rocks. Which Ms Kreider is incapable of caring for (on topic! Yea me!)
I KNEW there was a reason I liked this blog! Geeks abound! ;-))
What is a brand new iPhone doing in the fridge? Why tweet that? That does not make Kate or her 'mature' child look like they value anything. Milo and the grow- a bf- is getting old.... Kate is digging deep for material to tweet.
Whether June is done with Sugar Bear or not, I highly doubt she would conspire WITH tlc to demonize him. I doubt she belittles, degrades, emasculates Sugar Bear. June does not see herself as a super stah! with delusions of grandeur. They no doubt are being exploited, but that family is genuine. I don't believe they try to portray the absolute polar opposite of what truly goes on behind closed doors. She is NOT a narissistic abusing, parent alienating , lying selfish greedy self centered, lonely, friendless husbandless familyless (sorry, some khatisms there)POS "mother"
Laurie said... 45
I also don't want to get into a fight but I don't think one has to "scrutinize" to see what seems pretty clear to me just from watching the episodes.
I don't know why people are getting so sensitive...I'm not picking on the family...or the south, etc. I see TLC exploiting another family. If you want to see REAL criticism of this show and of the family, it's ALL over the internet.
If you want to call me "zealous", that's fine. I just see parallels between this situation and the Gosselin situation insofar as TLC's role goes. And I wrote a comment yesterday, explaining that I'm collecting info regarding the parallels and would pass it on eventually to the Administrator here in case she was interested in making an entry here with it....and that's the ONLY reason I'm collecting it.
During times when there is little going on in the Gosselin blogosphere, we often discuss OT things (which several have complained about) so I thought I would collect info for a possible blog entry here for the Administrator simply because there ARE parallels and it wouldn't really be OT since this involves another family on a TLC reality show.
If you think that makes me "zealous", fine. But I'm not collecting it for CPS or the FBI, etc. I'm only collecting it for a potential future relevant entry here for the Administrator and it would be completely her decision if she might decide to use it in the future. This site IS "realityTVkids" and Alana IS a reality TV kid. It's as simple as that.
Kate probably put the phone in the fridge to punish Mady, IMO.
Wow. So much going in with this blog. Although this blog is one of my favorites.
With that said, we have had an invasion of the worst kind, with enablers attacking left and right, especially since the RH book. Numerous posts from Anonymous sources attacking the blog-WHY?? - I don't know exactly, but we all have a good notion of why this is going on. For right now, if posts disappear, consider the climate of the blog.
I will say this is a great blog/great posters, so we all should take the good with the bad, and give Admin a break without any gripes. She has enough to deal with in light of alien invasions. WHY?? they come to this blog- I think it is obvious.
Don't rise to the bait. I think no response is good, although very trying. Maybe a repeated
"Rumspringa"(code word) in response to enablers says we do not agree with your insanity.
My two cents with the Invasion of the Enablers. High road.
Kate's on the "Don't worry, be happy" kick this morning:
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
Good morning! Are you smiling at the blessing of today? I am...Glad 2b alive,able&a mom to 8 truly marvelous children(but I may b partial:)!
Kate Gosselin @Kateplusmy8
What is making YOU smile today?
And of course, she has to mention that she has 8, count em, 8 children.
This girl has met Kate and the kids once-ONCE-and she tweets:
emcr68
@Kateplusmy8 last night before I fell asleep, I literally was thinking about how blessed I am to have you & the kids as a part of my life :)
I don't know about anyone else, but I do find that kind of disturbing. I still can't understand why teens would worship a 37 yr old mother. I hope they at least feel this way about their own mothers.
dee3 said... 51
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I wanted to weigh in and say that I support you in documenting the impending tragedy that is HBB. I watched the clip of Dr. Drew and almost hurled. HBB can not be any clearer. She is so, so done with this goat rodeo.
Though I do find it prescient that she appeared on the Dr. Drew show as she will likely be the youngest member of the Celebrity Rehab club.
I'll go further and say that any of you who say you watch and like the family are part of the problem. Shame on you for your tacit approval of TLC ruining another family and allowing a child to have the job of supporting a family.
It is antithetical to what this blog stands for--the best interest of children.
Sorry to start the day on a sour note! This just doesn't sit well with me.
Vanessa said... 50
I never said in my comment that June "conspired" with TLC about anything. AND I did not compare June to Kate G. and have, in prior comments, agreed that she seems like a very loving mother. And I never said that June belittles or degrades Sugar Bear.
What I AM saying (and thought I DID say) is that when I watched the last 3-4 episodes of HBB, it seemed pretty apparent to me that the relationship between June and Sugar Bear is pretty fractured at this point. She made it clear several times that she absolutely refuses to marry him...even though the poor guy seems to really want to marry her. In fact, he looks quite sad and heart-broken when she said this (more than once).....and there are numerous indications to me that this relationship is fracturing badly.
That's MY opinion. I didn't state it as fact. An IMPRESSION I get when watching something is my OPINION.....which I'm entitled to.....just like we all are entitled to all the thousands of opinions we've written here over the past several years.
But let me just say this....I have my opinion and you have yours and time will tell. I feel pretty certain that future events will give a clearer picture of the parallels with the Gosselin situation in terms of TLC's role.
And I have no problem with anyone here having a different opinion than I do....but am getting a bit upset when I keep being accused of insulting this family...or the south...or whatever. I will repeat...I am concerned with TLC's role in damaging another family here....and that's it.
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I didn't see Dr Drew, but I guess it did not go well? I know some of you 'like' June, but from the little I've seen, her giving that child mt Dew & Red Bull to be pumped up for pageants (pageants themselves!) turns me off. That's a mother who does not care about her child's health or wishes.Seven is too young to have the weight of carrying the success of a TV show on her shoulders.I agree TLC has ulterior motives- using HBB & fam for entertainment- a laugh at the whole family.They seem to revel in embarrassing moments to air.
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I'm completely baffled at the huge amount of support this family receives. There must be a lot of people who enjoy watching TLC exploit one more "odd" family (for lack of a better word and trying like hell NOT to be politically incorrect"). From the couple of clips I've seen there isn't a thing on the planet about them that is worthy of a TV series, for heaven's sake! Drive down half the streets in the country and you'll find families exactly like them.
Mom's an extreme couponer (whoopie) and poor HBB is doted on, spoiled and getting far too much attention not to mention snacks.
TLC knows what they're doing; their creating controversy and counting their money. TLC doesn't only exploit the families they film, they exploit the public who is memorized by these low class forms of entertainment. If the public didn't want and like these kinds of shows they wouldn't exist. I don't get it, I really don't.
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Thank you!! I so appreciate your comment.
I'm getting a bit upset over the idea that people would be posting here, having clearly realized now what happened with the Gosselin family.....yet jumping angrily on any post making any parallels with HBB and the Thompson family.
I just don't see how anyone familiar with the Gosselin situation can fail to see the parallels.....esp. regarding TLC's role in it.....with the HBB situation. It just boggles my mind.
I'll have to mull this over for a bit...I'm just flabbergasted.
Again, thank you SO SO much Tucker's Mom....for reassuring me that I'm not the only one seeing this. :)
I just watched the Dr drew clip where Alana pretended to be asleep b/c she is tired of interviews. She almost hit Dr Drew. Her mom seems like an ok person with some mixed up values- I'm sure the money was a big factor since she is a coupon clipper and has a basement full of goods. To keep Alana in those pageants, it would take a lot of money. Why put that child in a pageant- she didn't seem to enjoy it, especially losing, from another clip I saw.The lure of a TV show I'm sure was appealing. But Alana seems very different than the sparkly child that once 'graced' the TV screen- tired, rude, grumpy, sick of it all, coaxed to cooperate by June. I see nothing appealing about the family , the child or the show.Or the fact that TLC is using the child for entertainment value. Yes, Alana does not look well, barefoot, puffy and tired.
I agree a post on this fits in well with the 'reality/exploitation of kids' theme of the blog.
I refuse to watch shows like HBB or any that make fun of southerners since I am one. Yes indeed, we have plenty of rednecks, but I also have seen plenty of rednecks in the north too, so it makes me mad when TV execs stereotype the south. And once again, TLC will do what it can to make a family implode on TV just like the Gosselins. The family is dysfunctional and TLC is just going to make it worse.
She is so verbally challenged that she has to retweet those Life Tools sayings. Such an airhead.
BTW, the picnic picture looks like it was taken later in the day than lunch time. Look at the shadows.
Remember Eden Wood? Where is she now? Anyway, here's an interview with Eden I remember seeing months ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWzcLAyis0
It's obvious these kids are tired and need a break from the interviews. It's so sad really.
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Thanks, Tweet. My feelings exactly about what is on TLC and some other cable networks, like Bravo. ITA, if people didn't watch, these shows would go away.
There is a lot of filming that goes on in GA so I have to wonder what the laws are in the state regarding filming children.
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@Kateplusmy8 last night before I fell asleep, I literally was thinking about how blessed I am to have you & the kids as a part of my life :)
I don't know about anyone else, but I do find that kind of disturbing. I still can't understand why teens would worship a 37 yr old mother. I hope they at least feel this way about their own mothers.
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It is very disturbing; in fact, it appears to be the "intense personal" stage of Celebrity Worship Syndrome, when the person feels a closeness to the celebrity, thinking that the person is a soulmate. When it reaches the third stage, it becomes borderline pathological. It's one thing to be a fan, but another to think that the celebrity actually is a part of your life. Young teens are the most vulnerable. When they realize that the celebrity wants nothing to do with them, they feel ignored and abandoned and this may lead to their withdrawal from society as well as other problems of self-esteem.
These young teens are addicted, with the catalyst being the internet. It's fine to have crushes on celebrities, but to think that these people are actually part of their lives is a cause for concern. The case of young Paige is very worrisome.
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@Kateplusmy8 last night before I fell asleep, I literally was thinking about how blessed I am to have you & the kids as a part of my life :)
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This is the uber-fan Kate and the kids met in CT when she did a run there. There's a pic of this fan with one (or more) of the G kids on her lap - I think it was said Kate left them with the fan while she did the run? She also sends gifts to Kate and the kids.
What is a brand new iPhone doing in the fridge? Why tweet that? That does not make Kate or her 'mature' child look like they value anything.
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Exactly why a 12 year old is not old enough to have a $400 dollar iphone, KATE, or is that new one more? They do stupid things like putting it in the fridge. Any little bit of moisture and that thing will die. But I guess when you're rich you can just get a second, third, fourth, fifth. You need not be responsible when you're wealthy. #Snark.
Sorry I forgot I think she got them the 4S. Still an expensive phone the twins should be valuing and taking care of, not throwing in the FRIDGE.
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I honestly don't think the HBB show is trying to make fun of southerners, just one unfortunate family who happen to live there. They could live anywhere.And it's wrong of TLC- again. A child's life is being exploited.
Was the HBB Dr Drew interview recent, as in this week?
Seems like Kate was more worried about the phone being "germy" than about the phone itself. Of course, that's what she tweeted-she probably flipped out.
And how do you put a phone in the fridge in the first place? I could see Kate doing that, because the phone is always in her hand-but anyone else?
Kate said it was an "odd" convo--I say it was an "odd tweet".
This is the uber-fan Kate and the kids met in CT when she did a run there. There's a pic of this fan with one (or more) of the G kids on her lap - I think it was said Kate left them with the fan while she did the run? She also sends gifts to Kate and the kids.
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Yes, Emily from Connecticut, the pretty young girl who also was backstage with Carnie, Wendy and Chynna at a concert. Apparently she thinks she's also good friends with them. Paige has never met Kate, whose addiction is even more worrisome.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 69
Was the HBB Dr Drew interview recent, as in this week?
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I'm trying to figure out the same thing. When I went to youtube it was only a tiny clip showing Alana pretending to be asleep (looked like she was tired of being interviewed) and of her yelling "NO!" when Dr. Drew asked her if she liked being on TV (I'm paraphrasing)....so not sure if this was a promo clip for a show being aired in the future or if it already aired.
When I checked on youtube, only that one little clip portion is available at this time.
http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/10/23/honey-boo-boo-fakes-sleep-dr-drew/
This is all I saw but it was enough.
Tweet-le De said...(57)
"TLC doesn't only exploit the families they film, they exploit the public who is memorized by these low class forms of entertainment. If the public didn't want and like these kinds of shows they wouldn't exist."
Excellent point. I know it's been said before but it bears repeating...TLC is this century's P.T. Barnum. "There's a sucker born every minute."
TLC is indeed exploiting its audience as much as it is the participants of these "reality" shows. People are generally fascinated by the strange and different, it's human nature.
The sad part is, is that our children (both participants and viewers) are growing up in a culture that glamorizes and financially rewards this sad phenomenon.
To think of the things all that money could be better spent on; education, feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, basic medical and dental care for the poor.
We really do, as a society, have our priorities screwed up. And who is paying the highest price? Children like Alana Thompson and the Gosselins are spending their childhoods under a microscope being scrutinized and judged by a seemingly heartless viewing audience.
Kind makes your skin crawl, doesn't it? If it doesn't, it should.
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@Kateplusmy8 Ugh! They just took 4 vials of me blood!! Me hates needles! But Imma still smilin Kate! :) #NowWhatTheyGonnaDoNext ??
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Kate tweeted, "What is making you smile today?" The fact that I don't know anyone personally that is as screamingly annoying as Milo makes me grin like a Halloween pumpkin.
This is the uber-fan Kate and the kids met in CT when she did a run there. There's a pic of this fan with one (or more) of the G kids on her lap
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It IS? Oh my God. See this is exactly why you don't let a fan and STRANGER hold the kids in her LAP for God sakes.
Now Emily thinks she is part of their lives. She spent all of a couple hours with them!
Emily looks sweet and pretty but that doesn't mean she can't go down the road of other obsessed fans and snap when she finally realizes that her relationship needs aren't being met in this.
Forget needing a bodyguard, the kids need protection from Kate's own stupid choices.
Fidomommy: no, no, no: don't let Njay, channel Kate, they will get brain damage.
Njay: maybe one of Kate lackeys(seejay), does the boogie woogie and turns her self around and make the posts disappear, at 2am-3am.
Sorry I forgot I think she got them the 4S. Still an expensive phone the twins should be valuing and taking care of, not throwing in the FRIDGE.
If the only thing they are allowed to use the phones for is to call Kate, they might as well put them in the refrigerator, as they are next to useless anyway. Were they allowed to call her when she was gone those 9 days I wonder?
Winsomeone said... 78
Sorry I forgot I think she got them the 4S. Still an expensive phone the twins should be valuing and taking care of, not throwing in the FRIDGE.
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If that even happened, considering the source and all...
dee3--HBB's interview with Dr. Drew airs tonight on HLN. That clip was a promo for the show. There are a couple of other promo clips on the show's website:
http://www.hlntv.com/shows/dr-drew
D'oh. Bad quotage, sorry Winsomeone and Admin.
I can easily see how a phone could get left in a fridge. I've done similar things myself, although not with my phone. I open the door to get something, put down whatever I have in my hand, and forget to pick it up again. I've done it with my glasses, my car keys, a prescription bottle. Given KK's likely reaction when any of the kids open the fridge (horror of horrors! They might actually EAT something!), I can see how Mady might forget she set the phone down and close the door, especially if she were afraid of being caught. I completely agree that 12 year olds do not NEED an iphone, of whatever generation. If they need a cell at all, a pay as you go should be more than adequate.
@ dee
You said the parallels between June & Sugar Bear's "breakup" and the Gosselins are very clear to you. This is what I was addressing if/when/how they script this hyothetical breakup, I don't feel it would follow the tlc/khate recipe.
And for the record, I don't watxh HBB, but like most of the posters here I have come to my opinions through other means ie-interviews, internet, blogs etc..
My "opinion" is that tlc has found another mass public hit show and it's the soup du jour. It's contrived, it's exaggerated, it's scripted and edited etc. But once again a child is paying the collateral.
You say SB has bee around for 8 yrs? Do you know anything about her 3 other kids'
father? I too am not trying to start a fight dee, I'm genuinely asking, seriously...June.was a teen mom? I don't know, but I get the feeling that she has had male figures come.and go (my opinion:)
I agree that $ may be her ticket out of said.relationship, but I don't think she'd screw her family and kids- tlc may "try", but get the sense June has a moral compass.
Oh, even Michelle Obama and Anderson Cooper watch Real Housewives :)
Guess it's a good thing the Iphone was in the fridge and not the freezer. Stil, odd thing to tweet about, as in so what? Neither mom nor child look particularly bright there. But really, besides the 'inspirational' RT's, what does K8 have to say these days? No more CC blog to write, and her own pathetic web page has authentic Halloween cobwebs. She must be so angry down deep, or just below the shallow surface of her being.
Guess it's a scroll on by kind of day; HBB does not interest me at all. And I have the drive by, ridiculously angry, sheeple on ignore as well.
Guess it's a good thing the Iphone was in the fridge and not the freezer. Stil, odd thing to tweet about, as in so what?
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Her idea of what is cute, funny or otherwise interesting blog fodder is really, for lack of a better word, stunted.
I'm loving the name definitions. Mine means I'm short and a student of the works of Tolkien, in Kuduk, of course.
Wouldn't the LEGAL requirement to report child abuse trump the non-disclosure agreements?
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Yes. Always and forever, in any state at any time.
But whether the unsophisticated people signing these contracts knew or should have known that is up for debate. Lots of people sign what are really illegal contracts without knowing it.
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Thanks so much for that info.
in Texas, a reporter who identifies themselves is sent a letter regarding the outcome of the investigation - nothing was sent to me from PA CPS.
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Wow, really? I mean I know as a concerned person anyone would want to know what became of the child they want to help, but how is that keeping things confidential for the kids?
Her idea of what is cute, funny or otherwise interesting blog fodder is really, for lack of a better word, stunted.
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my word for Kate is unsophisticated. Despite her vast experience, travel and having met so many fascinating people, she simply hasn't grown.
What Kate thinks of as funny, most folks think of as cruel. There's not a self-deprecating bone in her body. Every laugh is had (by Kate and only Kate) is at someone's else's expense.
My opinion regarding Kate's ridiculous phone tweet; she is trying to show how much she's changed, how laid back she is now. Instead of freaking out about the new phone being in the refrigerator she just calmly closed the door and she and Mady had an awesomely hilarious, palsy walsy exchange when Mady finally found it.
I don't know anyone that doesn't back up their computer and files on a regular basis, at least to some extent...even to an online file like dropbox.
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Neither do I. If you're not making computer back up a regular part of your routine you're nuts. I can't imagine IT minded people who wouldn't do that. And especially when all your contracts and business dealings are on those computers. Most new computers make it really simple too. I use a WD My Book external hard drive which I highly recommend, technically you should do it every couple days but I knew there's no way I could be that disciplined, but I do try to do it every couple weekends. It's literally just a plug it in and forget it type thing. Done in about 20 minutes.
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Totally agree. And with the addition of Reality TV "Stars", blinding fan worship will become more and more prevalent, as these reality tv stars rely solely on their fans to boost their ratings, products appear at various local venues to boost fan support,and yet make $$ etc...when none of them clearly have a bit of talent. Most of them are looking for a quick flash in the pan, to gain attention, fame and money. What does this say about our society - when Kate and Reality TV Housewives are someone to adore, worship and follow, in spite of their horrid behavior. Let alone a mom of kids.
Reality stars have been able to milk it to the umpteenth level of okay. Bad sign of our times. Let alone when 8 kids are involved.
Kids includling HBB are too young to endure this national scrutiny, and should never be put in this place by their parents.
BTW- I do like Alana, and am not surprised to hear she is going through some issues. Adult Reality fame whores need to leave their kids out of filming. How about giving them a minute to grow up, which is hard enough to do without the cameras and national attention.
I find it funny that Kate's very reason for getting a bodyguard in the first place is something that she continues to allow: strangers holding the kids in their laps.
And Steve protects them how again?
Crickets.
Kate tweeted, "What is making you smile today?" The fact that I don't know anyone personally that is as screamingly annoying as Milo makes me grin like a Halloween pumpkin.
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I'm right there with you, Tweet-le. I wonder if she is just as annoying in real life with her family, or if it's just a Kate thing. If I had to be around her, I'd sooner be locked in a room with a dozen 24/7 knuckle-crackers.
The platitudes and inspirationals are enough to gag a maggot. It probably gives her (and Kate when she retweets) some kind of philosophical/intellectual satisfaction to share these urgent pearls of wisdom, but here's the thing about inspirational quotes...they don't actually inspire anyone. They're forgotten as soon as the person scrolls past them to the next post.
I find it funny that Kate's very reason for getting a bodyguard in the first place is something that she continues to allow: strangers holding the kids in their laps.
And Steve protects them how again?
Crickets.
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There's such a disconnect there. Hypocritical disconnect. Even assuming Emily is perfectly safe, when she wants more and more contact and a deeper and deeper relationship with the family, what will happen when the family finally says no thanks? Will she snap and not be the nice, sweet, pretty young girl she was?
Off topic question, has anyone been to Croatia and would you recommend it? If so please email me off the blog. Thank you!
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Vanessa, here's what my impression was, especially when watching the last 3-4 shows (and this in only related to June and SB...I can give you a link to info on the other fathers further down) and why I see a parallel:
It seemed very clear to me that June has tired of SB....and to be honest, I feel terrible for SB because he seems to genuinely love her, genuinely wants to marry her and very sad that she won't marry him, and is a devoted father to Alana and has tried to be a father-figure to the 3 older daughters who are not his. In fact, he is shown feeding the new addition, Kaitlyn (the daughter recently born to the 17 year old daughter Anna) and holding her.....and this poor guy apparently works 7 days a week to boot.
There are multiple times where June, at least to me, gives clear indications that she has tired of SB, esp. in the last few episodes (#6 through 10). Does she treat him with the derision Kate treated Jon? No. But I think if you watch the episodes and pay attention to June's reaction whenever anything regarding romance with SB and/or marriage to SB...you will see it too.
June has been with (although unmarried) SB for 8 years....so he's been there for Alana all her life. It is reported that June does get child support from the fathers of the other 3 girls....but I got the sense that SB was a big part of the financial support of the family....that is, until Alana became a reality TV star.
Would June have stayed with SB forever if they'd never hit reality TV pay-dirt? Hard to tell. But it is my impression, after watching the shows on youtube, that June has tired of SB but is under contract to maintain the facade that they are all one big happy family with SB filling the "father" slot....but that in reality, it's quite the opposite.
And here's where I see the parallel. They, I believe, are being contracted to maintain a false facade....just like the Gosselins were doing (until Jon had just had it). Alana is young so hard to tell how much she can perceive...but surely the older daughters know it's a facade.
And I feel really terrible for this SB. I really do. Seems like a genuinely nice guy who just wants to be a husband and father here.
Regarding the fathers of her other 3 daughters, here is a link to an article regarding this:
http://hollywoodlife.com/2012/08/29/honey-boo-boo-family-fathers-convicted-felons-june-shannon/
And in terms of the Gosselin parallel....although Jon wasn't the most assertive guy in the world....SB is even less so then to boot, he and June aren't married....so the exact recipe would not be the same if they even do break-up.
The parallel I'm seeing is that they are maintaining a false facade of an intact relationship because of a contractual agreement with TLC....and how good can this be for the daughters?
Honey Boo Boo is way, way too young to withstand the vigor of a media tour. The traveling, the red eye flights, living out of hotel rooms, 4 am call times, bombarded with questions. Adults talk about how exhausting this is, let alone a child. Adults often turn to uppers and downers to cope, what is a six year old to do? Mountain dew isn't going to cut it.
At least when the Gosselin kids did media there were eight of them so if one were tired, they could blend into the crowd. With HBB it's just her.
I will say this, it wasn't too often Kate took the Gosselin kids on media tours. She hasn't made them do an interview since the show was cancelled and I bet if she offered people would have them. It is probably more because she just wants the spotlight all to her little greedy self, but at least the kids are benefiting from her selfishness.
Knowing what we know now and since reading the book, I've started watching some of the early episodes and a 2009 Q&A episode. Of course we know that it's KATE who probably chose the questions to answer or made the questions up herself.
One question was "Do you regret your vow renewal?"
She stated very emphatically "I do not!!! At that time I knew that I meant it".
Then she said further "People accused us of 'oh it was a big show thing'. I don't do anything for a show thing. I do it because it's my life and it feels normal and natural". (who can believe the load of crap spewing from her mouth?!)
"That was a goal of ours that we always wanted to do. I don't have any regrets. It's hard to believe it was a year ago and we've gone so far from it."
A question was asked about if the kids enjoyed filming (forgot to write the exact question down). She replied:
"If they don't want to be in a frame or doing what we're doing with the cameras, they just go to their room and that's that." God, how can this woman lie so much?!!?
One of the final questions asked if there "was any misconceptions about the show" and "if she wanted to set the record straight" to which she replied (in setting the record straight:
"That it is really reality"
"That we plan events but nothing is staged"
"Contrary to current and popular belief, that it is in NO way, shape or form, harmful for the kids because they wouldn't be on it if it was. It has done nothing but provided positive experiences for them. We've not forced them to do anything". (Sure Kate, sure!)
Her nose must be stretched all the way to Timbuktu, she lies so much.
Really dee? You are going to base your by what you see on the HBB episodes? After all we’ve discussed here with the Gosselins? Heck, for a time, we all thought Kate was a good mother, that she and Jon had a stable, loving marriage, that the kids were just “playing for the cameras”. Now, we know that nothing we see on “reality tv” is “real”. So, please stop assuming that what you see on HBB is real and trying to psycho-analyze. That’s foolish.
If you want to find out what HBB's life is really all about, contact June and make a trip down to GA and find out for yourself.
Also, I thought discussion of the physical aspects of children were a no-no on the blog.
This particular blog post started out as discussion on Aaron Fisher and his abuse at the hands of Jerry Sandusky. His book "Silent No More" is out today. Hopefully, you will all buy a copy. I'd love to have a discussion on this book as well, admin.
Blowing in The Wind said...I'd sooner be locked in a room with a dozen 24/7 knuckle-crackers.
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I almost fell of my chair laughing at that one.
As I mentioned before her combo Irish/Yoda way of "communicatin" is ridiculous.
It's difficult to imagine someone could be faking that kind of annoying and just be doing it on Twitter. I've wondered if that's why they live out in the woods away from people. Maybe her former neighbors did a fundraiser and bought them a house far, far away.
I don't watch HBB. I only know about her from here and from reading articles online. What bothers me most is that due to her exposure on reality tv, bodyguards had to be hired to protect her. Just the fact that she needs a bodyguard should have sent up red flags to everyone, including her parents and TLC. Hiring a bodyguard does fix the problem of why a bodyguard is needed in the first place-that a child's private life has been opened for public consumption.
Dee3 and Tucker's mom I agree about HBB though I haven't watched one single episode I feel very sorry for that little girl. The Hollywood expression " they like to build you up so they can tear you down " is so true. Many of the reality people become famous and then they become hated, ridiculed and destroyed! Whose at fault the viewers! No audience no show!
I don't understand why anyone believes what Kate tweets! Even if "M" did leave the iPhone in the frig Kate probably blew a fuse and disciplined her! Kate is not nor will ever be forgiving! It's not in her DNA! I still think it never happened.
Let's Throw Tomatoes
dee3 you certainly have my support with your HBB research. I haven't see the show but I did see the HBB/Dr.Drew clip and I was astonished. HBB seems very unhappy, not answering questions, pretending to be asleep to avoid questions. Almost striking Dr. Drew and saying "NO" when asked if she liked being on television. Her mother sat there like a bump on a log when she should have stopped the whole thing as soon as HBB started acting out. I don't think this will end well.
In my previous post, that should be " does NOT fix the problem".
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Interesting that you ask that, Paula.....because I saw Kate coming from a mile away just from watching an episode or two back at the very beginning (the poop episode being one of them) and I have stated this NUMEROUS times over the years both on this blog and on Moon's blog years ago. I NEVER saw Kate as a good mother...and only needed a few episodes to see that. I was NEVER a Kate fan. I NEVER bought the facade.....and there are multiple past comments of mine through the years corroborating that.
And....it's not me referring to their physical characteristics.
And....there are numerous articles coming out regarding HBB and the family....just like there were with the Gosselins.
Of course I'm not believing everything I'm seeing. If I were to believe everything I'm seeing, I'd just assume that everything was just hunky-dory in their relationship......but IMO, I don't think it is. And I'm not psychoanalyzing anything....just watching....and giving my opinion...just like everyone else here.
I don't know why I'm even arguing here.
Kate probably tweeted about Mady to let her tweeties know that Mady is now at home with her, since the twins were spotted with Jon on Sunday. Of course, we only have Kate's word for it that the phone incident even happened.
It's a discussion board. Not many of us have (thankfully!) met Kate but can form an opinion, and many of us haven't even seen the HBB show, but can also judge what's going on and the consequences from the clips and articles on-line.
If we do have a post on this topic I hope we can all state our opinions without argument, just discussion and agreeing to disagree. No one is attacking the child or the South, but TLC and its exploitation of kids. Yes, I am leery of June for various reasons.
Admin. Kate does not do interviews with the kids because she does not want to share the cameras with them. Have you ever seen the faces she makes when they even mention or ask about her children?? No,no Kate wants to be the STAR and she made that very clear during the last 7 years!
The day she realizes that is she done ( not yet ) you better believe she is going to push those kids with a vengeance. I'm thinking the girls!
Let's Throw Tomatoes
At least when the Gosselin kids did media there were eight of them so if one were tired, they could blend into the crowd. With HBB it's just her.
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Exactly what I was thinking about that poor little girl, all the attention she has gotten for years from her adoring large family has now morphed into a media circus of exhausting proportions. The G8 had each other, and except for a few instances early on (Oprah, Good Housekeeping), they were not marched out on the road much. Admin is right, thank god for Kate's need to keep the media spotlight on herself.
Yes, I am leery of June for various reasons.
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Me too. June is more liked than Kate, just like Michelle Duggar, but they're cut from the same fame-whoring, greedy cloth.
This doesn't end well so despite what Kate thinks, that everyone would do it too, lots of people would not lives their lives in front of the camera.
My bet is that Kate is trying to produce her own dating show, spending her own money in hopes that someone will pick it up and she'll once again get paid to exist.
Paula, isn't it good for admin. to delete posts that contain the actual insults?
I agree that certain comments about children should not be allowed on this blog. How is it any different to copy/quote the offensive comment?
Guys, I'm swiffering a LOT the past couple days. I don't know why but there is a lot of snapping at each other going on back and forth. I understand some of the sheeple have instigated some of it and gotten people on edge, certainly me, but they are not responsible for all of it. Just because your post was swiffered doesn't mean that on a normal day there was anything wrong with it or I have a problem with you.....I'm just trying to completely shut down the fighting and bad vibes, and if your post was at all a part of that, I may decide to swiffer it. That means perfectly acceptable responses might be deleted to an unacceptable post, if that makes sense.
I think I have things pretty much cleaned up now, so everyone take a deep breath, maybe get some coffee spiked with rumspringa, and carry on.
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@Kateplusmy8 1st moment they entered this world..ur kids had the care, the nuturing&love of an adoring Mom! "& that's never gonna change!"
Yes, Milo...when they were two years old, she showed them caring, nurturing and adoration by pulling them by the hair and slamming them into their cribs, leaving them there so they would be protected against her wrath.
"That's never gonna change?" We can only hope and pray that behavior HAS changed and they no longer have to fear that wooden spoon.
Didn't Kate admit that the only one she really bonded with was Hannah?
Right, Penny. It does no good to re-quote a post you are trying to flag as unacceptable. All that does is create more work for whoever is on duty trying to delete it.
Rule of thumb, when a post seems unacceptable to you, DON'T QUOTE IT to respond to it. That for sure means your post is going too, and you've just annoyed whoever is on duty because now they have more work to do to get things back on track.
Oh and I can't stand when people say "I can't believe this is being allowed" or "why isn't this being deleted"?. No one on this staff is able to be here 24 hours a day all the time. Don't assume something is being "allowed" when more likely than not I or the staff haven't even seen it yet to deal with it. A much better tactic and one that some of you do, you know who you are and I appreciate you, is to simply email us with a copy and past of the post you think should be deleted. It's as simple as that.
Oh and it goes without saying that comments about HBB's looks and body are not allowed, unless they are positive, just like they are not allowed with the Gosselin kids. It doesn't matter if it's relevant to whatever, which it may be, it's just not allowed.
Admin: I'm sure that Kate would always blow off Jon, when it came to important things, like backing up ones computer. In Kates mind, Jon is being over protective, cause the Gosselins are made of rubber. Kate does not think. Thinking is too hard for her brain, it takes away from what is really important, like Fame and being a celeb. Kate even does not think that cars, electronic stuff is important: how she drives a car, how many Phones has Kate had, & cars(over the years), not teaching her daughters, that so it's a $100 phone, it's ok to stick it in the frig, Kate was more concerned about the germs than the expensive phone. If that was my kid, I'd be all over her about that and would take the phone away. Most normal/mediocre/regular/average person, does not treat electronic devices as toys(granted some do(must be ones with lots of money)), the rest of us treat that stuff as precious things, cause they cost money, money the rest of us earned, from working a 8-4/9-5 etc job or jobs. Not take money we did not earn(the kids money) and spend it, and not teach kids responsibility for their things. Good job Kate, way to teach them, take, use & lose.
Oh, and/or destroy the item.
Depending on how many GBs it has, it's technically a 400, 500, 600 dollar phone.
But because they were apparently due for an upgrade and a newer model is out she probably got a good discount.
But doesn't change the fact that she stuck at least a $400 phone in the fridge. And that this is all one big joke. The kids are, sadly, growing up with no idea how the real world lives, how most families who even manage to get a phone like that would never be able to replace it, at least not anytime soon, if it were damaged from being careless, how so much of America can barely pay for a track phone let alone an iPhone. How so much of America makes the choice to buy groceries instead of paying the cell phone bill many months. In the process of giving the kids "everything they deserve" Kate has robbed them of so much else, creating a fantasy land for them they will never possibly be able to maintain into adulthood.
My bet is that Kate is trying to produce her own dating show, spending her own money in hopes that someone will pick it up and she'll once again get paid to exist.
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One thing she does have going for her is the support and encouragement of the sheeple. After all, this worked so well for her before...with the Paula Deen pilot, Twist of Kate, the clothing line, cookbook, cruise, Kate Plus 8, modeling, the running/fitness/exercise equipment...
I think with support like that, I'd say, no thanks, I'll do it on my own! Why do the sheeple think she needs their support? What is it going to do for her? It hasn't worked in the past, but they keep pledging their undying devotion to her. Instead of enabling her, and if they really cared, they'd tell her to get a job and take care of her kids, that she had a good run on television, but it's over.
Nah, that would require honesty and logical thinking.
If my 12 year old left a $$ phone in the fridge, they'd be without that phone for oh, about a week or so!
If my 12 year old left a $$ phone in the fridge, they'd be without that phone for oh, about a week or so!
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Yeah no kidding. If they're that absent minded guess they don't really want it that badly.
I'm not one to leave things in the fridge, even if I was our fridge doesn't have a spare shelf to put anything! But it's one thing to leave your keys in there or something. Quite another to leave a $400 phone that is so easily damaged by water and moisture.
Oh and they can tell if you water damaged your phone, they have some kind of indication inside, so all bets are off and warranties voided if you get a speck of water on it. I know because I just sent my macbook in for repairs and they kept asking if I water damaged it. They made me feel like I was lying, even though I wasn't.
But why should Kate teach her kids to value these expensive toys when she is on her fifth or sixth or whatever iphone herself.
Admin: absolutely. No respect: only to Kate, no responsibility: only to Kate. Hopefully Jon is filling in the gaps. I would have been livid, with the kid. $99 dollar phone that was $400 or +, one still need to teach kids responsibility. Personally, I think 12 is too young to have and expensive phone, even if you got it for $99. I would have gotten a pay as you go phone. But then this is Kate tryin to up everyone.
But doesn't change the fact that she stuck at least a $400 phone in the fridge. And that this is all one big joke. The kids are, sadly, growing up with no idea how the real world lives, how most families who even manage to get a phone like that would never be able to replace it, at least not anytime soon, if it were damaged from being careless, how so much of America can barely pay for a track phone let alone an iPhone.
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If she took out insurance on the phone, she probably is figuring that since she's paying insurance so it doesn't matter. Many of us have said that no 12-year-old needs and iPhone. Kids lose phones. Kids drop phones. Insurance or no insurance, if it's just for emergency use, get a very basic cell phone and get on the Family Plan (9.99 per month per line) with no data charge.
Kate's being so cute and coy today. She's got a secret..teeheehee. All smiley and grateful to be a mom of eight 'marvelous' kids. Who is she trying to convince? They weren't so marvelous when she was yanking on their hair and whacking them with a wooden spoon or throwing them in their cribs to restrain herself from injuring them further. She makes me sick with her syrupy sticky sweet tweets.
HBB. Haven't watched and won't. Last thing I watched on TLC was Sister Wives and Mr. Kody enjoying his harem. Most of the kids on that show didn't seem all that happy to have a camera in their face either. TLC went from somewhat educational programming to garbage in record time.
On that note, I see where Oprah's OWN might get the boot off the cable line-up here in Canada. The network was supposed to 'provide formal and informal educational series and learning opportunities focused on adult education' but doesn't seem to be holding up that end of the bargain. Now the CRCT (Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission) issued a notice of hearing to Corus Entertainment, the company that bring us Oprah's network, asking them to clarify the content of OWN Inc. Corus could lose it's licence to air OWN. The hearing will be on Dec. 11. I'm crying buckets for poor Oprah. (NOT!)
Too bad the U.S. government can't do likewise with whoever is licenced to air TLC...or at least force them to drop the 'learning' part of their title.
Hey, if the kids lose or damage their phone, their "servant" will bring them another.
Easy peasy.
That's the thing I understand 12 year olds are very absent minded and may have trouble understanding the concept of how much money that phone is. But that's why you don't give them things like that until they have proven they can handle it. For most kids that's not going to be for a long while. Start with a cheap pay as you go phone, and if they can keep that one reasonably safe and not lose it for X amount of time, okay then maybe they have earned something a bit fancier. If they do well with the fancier phone, well maybe they could even handle an older model iphone someday. And so on.
But if the cheap phone is in the fridge or broken or lost, then cheap phones it is for awhile.
There's just no reason rich kids need to be raised any different than the rest of us mediocre. I will say this, the poor little rich kids I know are not spoiled, are not just given things because the family can afford it. They earn things just like everyone else. The thing they ultimately earn might be nicer than most kids but it was never just handed to them because. Those kids are good kids who are NOT spoiled and who appreciate their circumstances, that's the result of that parenting philosophy.
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I'm completely baffled at the huge amount of support this family receives.
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I admit to being surprised that some people who see the exploitation of the Gosselin children and find it appalling, can somehow find justification for June exploiting Alana in the same fashion. While June appears to love her children, and I've heard nothing to indicate she has fits of temper and/or is physically abusive - that doesn't make her a great mother. For one thing - Red Bull/soda concoction? Really? If you have your child's best interests at heart, you don't give them junk like that.
Signing a contract with TLC is definitely signing a deal with the devil. A parent with their child's best interests at heart would not sell out their child for financial gain.
I only hope that their run on TLC is mercifully brief; that June saves most of the money they are making now; that she learns about healthy eating and instills that in her children; and from here on out, she does all in her power to keep her children out of the public eye. (I have a feeling my hopes are going to be dashed.)
Don't throw stones at me, but I don't see anything wrong with M&C having iphones. Kate can afford it, the kids helped earn the family money, so I say they earned them. I also bet most of their friends have iphones as well.
Just about every phone these days needs a data pkg, so if your kid has a phone, might as well get them a decent phone.
I've had one experience with a pre-paid phone. It was a major hassle keeping the kid in minutes, having to buy those silly cards,etc, etc. Never again. blech!
I will also say that there are a lot of kids in elementary schools with phones (at least where I live.)
Ok, you can throw stones, just give me a five minute head start!
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I don't understand the need for an Iphone either. Kate said the twins needed phones to keep in touch when with their dad, or when on the bus. If they only used it for that a simple phone would be the way to go. I guess one advantage is that they can play games on their phones--but didn't Kate say they only play electronic games while travelling?
I think the basis of the sniping likely comes with the realization that the exploitation of innocent children takes more than just willing parents. TLC wants ratings, and they will do whatever it takes to get them once they perceive they have a show they know is a winner.
I watched that clip of Alana (HBB) and was aghast at her behaviour, her mother's actions, and Dr. Drew for ignoring this tragedy in the making. This child is acting out, and likely wants her old life back, but TLC has locked them in, and Alana is their latest commodity in the reality-tv game.
The more the Gosselin thing unravels, the more respect I have for Jon. He stepped outside the TLC corporation to save himself, his identity and attempted to do the same for his kids. In that process he made mistakes, but he owned up to his shortcomings, and finally found his footing on the high road.
We all need Robert's book to see the light of day again, we were so close to finally seeing Kate held to account.
Oh, another reason us mediocre take good care of our iphones. You can get a significant amount of trade in money for it when you want to upgrade. Once you buy an iphone, you can arrange it so you never have to pay a cent again to keep upgrading. As long as you're willing to get the second latest model or go refurbished, which is no skin off my back.
Amazon is just one of many places that will give you anywhere from 85 to 160 bucks for your iphone 4 base model depending on the condition. I've assessed mine to be in "good" condition and as long as they agree I would get 140 for it. You'd get a lot more if you have the 4S or have more gigs. I'm due for an upgrade in November, so with the upgrade discount plus the trade in value, I think I'll at least be able to get the 4S for free and if I'm lucky even the 5 for free or for a song. There are rewards for people who value their personal property and treat it responsibly. For those who don't, expect to shell out a lot more money over the years. It's all these little decisions that really start to add up financially.
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lol, no stones, but I don't think they need iPhones just b/c they can afford it. Plenty of cheaper phones- I agree, NO cards again!- will serve the same purpose. If Mady did put her phone in the fridge it just irresponsibility and lack of respect plus entitlement.
Auntie: if you read her tweets: you can tell what mood she is in. Kate tweeted before the firing, she has something up her sleeve(beside her arms), oh big secret, one tweet, till she got home. Notice: she must have found out when she got home that she was canned by CC. Her tweets were: her defending herself: she is not what people are saying. Then she must be depressed: she starts that quote crap, first about jellus, hateful people quotes and then the go go, let's do it quotes. Mind you, never addressing, the book or the firing: I guess, using her own phrase: IT IS WHAT IT IS. Now she is on a high/ nothing is wrong kick. She did the same thing when the show was canceled and the cruise. Same actions. She hardly addressed either of those. Funny all of us(fans & non-fans) knew what happened before Kate did, she truely lives in LA La land.
As to putting a phone in the fridge -- my son's smart phone sometimes gets pretty warm when he's been on it for awhile. He has placed it in the fridge to cool down for a few minutes and no harm came to the phone. Maybe that's what happened with Cara's phone.
An important lesson I learned from my parents growing up (that I didn't know I was learning at the time) was that people usually will value an item more if they had to work to earn it. For more pricey items, like a new bike, my dad would offer to pay half if the child wanting the item saved up to pay the other half. (Course back in the olden days when I was a kid, things didn't cost half as much as they do now.) Turns out, many things we thought we wanted - we weren't willing to save for. However, I did save enough for a new bike, a record player, etc. Because I had to work for those items, I took generally good care of them.
So I've raised my child on similar principles. He has to contribute money toward any "extras" he wants, such as a more expensive type of cell phone, skateboard, guitar, etc. It's not always 50/50, just depends on the item.
As to the Gosselin children - they are probably so messed up. On the one hand, they've been "given" trips to expensive resorts, hotel, and other tourist spots. On the other, they've never really been allowed to enjoy such things, as it was always work-related. Their mother sucks the joy out of every minute of their life, expects them to be grateful for every little thing, and had days' old food show up in the school lunches until the school told Kate to knock it off. I wouldn't call them spoiled rich kids per se. I think as adults, most of them are going to say that they would have traded the big home, fancy cars, expensive trips, etc., for a low-income lifestyle with two loving parents in heartbeat.
Don't throw stones at me, but I don't see anything wrong with M&C having iphones. Kate can afford it, the kids helped earn the family money, so I say they earned them. I also bet most of their friends have iphones as well.
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I do think the kids should enjoy their money, but I also think there is a fine line to walk where are you really hurting them by giving them things they are not old enough for or ready to be responsible for. There are plenty of nice, much cheaper phones out there and as long as Mady can prove responsible with those, okay fine she can get an iphone. But she's putting her iphone in the FRIDGE, which tells me exactly how much that kid understands and appreciates how much that phone costs. As in, not at all.
It will hurt the kids more to never learn how to value their property, they will pay for this when they are adults and not able to take care of things that are expensive only to find out it is suddenly their responsibility to fix and replace things they were careless about out of their own wallets. I don't think it can be exaggerated the lifelong consequences of this kind of thing.
Sweet Tart be really careful with that. Putting a warm phone in the cold fridge could cause condensation. Condensation equals water damage. Not good! Better to just turn it off and let it rest on a counter at room temperature.
Almost all cell phone companies will tell you to hit the road if you water damage the phone. There is zero tolerance for that. Unless you fork over the money for the insurance, which is a rip off IMO.
I wonder if Kate will get Iphones for the tups when they turn 12--or will she only get them for the girls?
I havent read all the comments yet, so maybe someone has already mentioned this: We are assuming that the child in question is the one who put her phone in the fridg? There are 8 other people that also live in that house part time, one of whom has a video taped history of doing mean, spiteful, terrorizing things to children.
When the child is a strong willed preteen, ya gotta step up your game, especially if you are trying to not use The Spanker so much anymore. You have to find another way to keep the child off kilter.
It's just a thought.
It will hurt the kids more to never learn how to value their property, they will pay for this when they are adults and not able to take care of things that are expensive only to find out it is suddenly their responsibility to fix and replace things they were careless about out of their own wallets.
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I agree. Not only that, but if they have everything now (before they are even teenagers), what is there left to look forward to? Why must kids have everything NOW? Kids also want cars, but with cars come maintenance, inspection and registration and insurance. Only when they get the bills and they find that they have to pay for these things, they wake up. It was fine when their parents were taking care of these things, but there's a rude awakening when they realize how much owning a car really costs.
"I also bet most of their friends have iphones as well."
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I bet that they don't.
Aggiesmom: actually, a pay as you go phone, would be a better bet for anyone I'd say 16 and under. It would teach them: 1. how to budget their mins, 2. save up for a pre-paid card, and 3. how to take care of something. I have a pay as you go, Virgin phone: I also have the package that they take $30. every 3 months, I have unlimited calling. My phone has camera, e-mail etc. It does have text I think.
You know what would be a better way for the kids to enjoy their money?
Gymnastics class. Or whatever class they want to take. Things that enrich and benefit them without spoiling them. And summer camp. You can't spoil a kid with summer camp.
A $500 iphone they are tossing in the fridge is not all that beneficial to them. I don't see it.
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Great comment.
You make a good point about the clip....and it can be difficult to see the parallels because like the Administrator mentioned....in the Gosselin situation, it was Kate who we saw being interviewed 99% of the time....and it became quite easy to dislike Kate.
But in the HBB situation....it's little Alana being interviewed....and she's just a child....who was most likely just exhausted. She's been through a massive amount of publicity appearances. There was apparently one day where she had 3 different meet and greets at 3 different local wrestling matches. At one of them, she had on her Daisy Duke pageant outfit and at one she had on a floor-length light-greenish/yellow gown and silver strappy heels......and when one of the wrestlers was "down for the count" in the ring....she was lifted up by one guy and laid on top of this wrestler's body for the count. Hmmmm. And the pics also show her eating lotsa candy and soda.
I'd be wired-up, exhausted and acting-out after all that myself. Besides the filming and the pageants AND the interviews, there are many meet and greets, etc. this little girl does.....and she's only 7 years old.
Apparently, baby Kaitlyn (Alana's new niece) placed 5th and won "People's Choice" in a local pageant on 10/7.
And though I may be accused of showing preferential treatment to the "dads" in these 2 shows...my heart truly goes out to Sugar Bear, Alana's dad. He works 7 days a week in the local chalk mines and just seems like such a genuinely nice guy.....and in one of the earlier episodes, he went "mudding" with the family.
Well, apparently, he's a diabetic (and they don't heal well from skin injuries) and developed leg infections from this and had to be hospitalized for 10 days for skin grafts....and was then dragged out for some media thing before they'd even healed-up.
This family...I just think TLC is gonna chew them up and spit them out....just like they did with the Gosselins.....and they'll be left to deal with the fall-out.....and there will be thousands of mortifying pics all over the internet they'll have to deal with forever.
Sweet Tart: but remember, back in those days, that stuff was expensive, people did not make much money. When we compare it to today, it's geez, things were cheap, back then. Actually they were not. The house I live in, back in 1966 was $15,500, my neighbors house was $24,000(it was a newer house), but looking back, I could have owned many houses, with what I make today, but reality: the houses in my block go for $250,000 & up, not $15,000-$24,000. People did not make $30,000 & up back then(a few did, most didn't) $10,000 -$20,000, was considered good money, today you would just get by. Gas was $0.20 or less. Not like it is today $3.00 & up.
I'm delurking again to say that I would like to see this blog spend more time looking at other reality shows featuring children -- whether they are Discovery/TLC or Lifetime or other networks.
I agree with what Dee3 said here: "I'm getting a bit upset over the idea that people would be posting here, having clearly realized now what happened with the Gosselin family.....yet jumping angrily on any post making any parallels with HBB and the Thompson family.
I just don't see how anyone familiar with the Gosselin situation can fail to see the parallels.....esp. regarding TLC's role in it.....with the HBB situation. It just boggles my mind."
Dee you are not alone. In the past I have tried to raise these same issues and parallels, not on this blog IIRC but on other forums, and got painfully shot down for it. I think that Kate G's obvious NPD, pathological lying and, IMO, sociopathy tends to obscure the issues.
This blog has occasionally taken a critical look at other shows but the discussion tends to turn back to Kate -- perhaps because her pathology seems greater than that of other Reality TV parents?
I have been keeping an eye on the Gosselin debacle since I found Moon's site years ago -- but have take time away from the debate frequently, and I am not a frequent poster anywhere.
When we complain here about Kate "spending the Gosselin kids' money" do we consider whether the Duggar children have secure individual trust funds for the future? Is their money safe? What are the Child Labor Laws in Arkansas (Duggars) and Georgia (Alana AKA HBB). Certainly these parents seem "nicer" than Kate, but do they know what are they doing signing away their lives to TLC? I was truly shocked when I read the contents of the TLC/Gosselin contract in Hoffman's book.
While we are on the subject of books, Polly Kahl seems to be, how shall I put this, not very popular with posters on this blog. I obviously missed or have forgotten some or all of the drama and/or history -- but I do want to ask this: have people read her book before dismissing it and her completely?
I have read it, and I think it is actually a very good assessment and critique of many of the issues that concern me and many of you about all reality TV families! She interviewed some very interesting people and includes their perspectives as chapters. I would encourage others to read it too before dismissing her completely. Borrow it from the library if you don't want to pay her for it, but please give it a chance. I particularly recommend Alison Arngrim's chapter -- that lady is pithy, eloquent and highly insightful!
I seriously mean all this most respectfully and hope I don't have to run and hide now while I get torn apart here. Peace!:-)
The parents I know that split custody, each parent is responsible for an equal amount of kid's cell phones.
I can see Kate asking Jon to put the boys on his phone plan.
If anyone here has kids the age of M&C, you probably know that a lot of kids this age have iphones.
I see everyone's viewpoints regarding the kids getting iphones. Thanks for not stoning me, lololol....maybe it's just me, I've had kids on my plan for years, I don't see that it is that big of a deal. I have three college kids with iphones and two younger ones with 'not' iphones, lol..I don't have an iphone either, for the record. We didn't buy the iphones on a lark, they were christmas and graduation presents. They also know if they break them, they have to pay to replace them. Part of my paying for the data pkgs requires good grades, staying out of trouble and staying within their data pkgs (if they go over, they have to pay the difference..which they've never gone over).
(how 'bout instead of stones, throwing tomatoes??)
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I don't know....but for some reason, as soon as I saw that phone story tweet by Kate, I doubted the veracity of it.....and just saw it as another one of her "look what cute thing the kids did that I just made-up).
Just for starters...if one of the kids did leave a phone in the fridge? I would see Kate as becoming extremely irate and punitive (unless things have changed in that house and Mady has some control over Kate...which I think she just might...down the road one day....but it's kinda early for that). But I just cannot imagine Kate just laughing that off considering her reactions to multiple minor infractions in the past. I'd see her getting REALLY angry.
The other thing is that while yes, I leave things all over the house now where they don't belong and have literally had to attach things to me with belt hooks (my keys) and lanyards (my electronic cig).....I rarely did that when I was a kid. In fact, I can't figure out for the life of me how I used to manage to do that. I could walk around with something in my hand.....and not misplace it. It was just a special bonus of being young that I've sadly lost now that I'm a senior citizen....and I mourn the loss of it everyday and am amazed at how I managed to rarely misplace things.
I now leave all sorts of thing in all sorts of wrong places....but at 12? I rarely...if ever...did that. Did I occasionally lose things? Sure...left something at a friend's house, etc.....but to absentmindedly put a phone in the fridge? No. That's the sort of stuff I do NOW...all the time....but not back at that age.
I just have big doubts about the story being true at all. I think it's something Kate made up to entertain others with....look at what funny thing the kids did today.
With her happy tweets and retweets, Kate is acting like the cat that swallowed the canary(Robert), because the book was pulled. When the book resurfaces, she'll be back to retweeting all the enablers tweets of support.
She thinks she's won--but it still doesn't hide the fact that people already have copies of the book. IMO, it's not over by a longshot.
It was probably KK herself that put the phone in refrig......her head is about to burst...no more freebees!
Aggiemom: that is the right way to go with phones: you did right, no stones thrown, not that I would throw any. Thumbs up!
You know what strikes me about this respectful conversation about iphones?
I don't think it's that anyone has the "right" way to handle it. I mean a lot of it depends on the child, your circumstances, your finances, etc.
But what does strike me is the point is that THOUGHT is put into it, no matter what you decide for your own kids. Isn't that the hallmark of a good parent, that you're not just giving kids whatever because you can....but rather whatever you decide, it was a reasoned, calculated decision not made in haste and always with the best interest of the kid in mind.
Did Kate REALLY think about it when she put her kids on TV? Does she really put thought into any of her decisions about them? Doubt it.
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Just an FYI for those who have said their posts have disappeared. What happened to me a little bit ago was crazy. When I clicked on "comment as" to put in njay, the drop down no longer had the name/url as a choice. I tried open ID but when I hit publish it gave me a reply at the top saying ID credentials not validated. I tried signing in on google and that is when iiiiiiii showed up with my post and at the top of the comment area it said it would post after approval. Admin, I don't know if you had anything to do with that or if it was acting up.
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Mine did the same thing late last night during another bout of insomnia. I had assumed Admin put the blog on moderation while she and the blog girls (that cracks me up) tried to clean things up, bore the hell out of the stalkers, and restore some calm and order. For as much horrid work as it is for Admin, I guess I wouldnt mind Moderation during those witching hours where the pot stirrers magically appear. It sure is alot more pleasant around here today.
I consider myself slightly scolded and I regret my part of letting myself get riled up at the stalker and the pot stirrers. "Ignore" got hard there for a little while, which means they were winning. Booo on me.
As far as little Alana goes, I was dismayed by the story someone posted here a day or so ago, about her nose running on camera, she was mortified and covered with her hand, but the camera kept on her. Clearly she is well raised enough to know that a running nose is not really acceptable and should quickly be tended to. But what does it teach a little 7 year old when a camera crew wont back off for a moment so she can wipe her nose? And then the film of her runny nose is broadcast on national TV? Does a 7 year old think that she is so special that even her boogers are hot news? That the rules of decency and modesty dont apply to her? I had the same concerns about the G kids pulling down their pants on camera for pottying for the masses.
And then kids get to school and realize that everyone is seeing this film. It isnt just the film crew daddies that saw the runny nose up close and personal, or witnessed you going to the bathroom; it is everyone you pass in school, church, the store, the street.
In a few short years these Reality TV Kids will start speaking out and I hope to heavens they start suing the crap out Discovery. Discovery has blood money on their hands. Even Judas knew what to do with his and it wasnt gloat.
Jill said... 146
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Oh, Jill...I could hug you. Thank you. I've not watched TLC on principle for several years now.....so never saw Toddlers and Tiaras or the Kody Brown family show or even the Duggars (I had seen them on a special though...back before they even had a show).
So the reason I even watched HBB (on youtube) and started going to all the trouble to look into it....was because I read a few comments on a few blogs (not just this one) by a few NON-fans of Kate....that seemed to support the show. So I went and watched the first few episodes of HBB (as those were the only few available on youtube at that time)
And that's what really got me started. It made me really re-think and wonder about what lessons have been learned or might have been learned regarding TLC/children on reality TV/exploitation of children in general.
It was one thing to see comments on the internet....be they supportive or be they insulting/highly critical ones by various people......but to see a few supportive ones by commenters who were very familiar now with the Gosselin/Kate/TLC situation and should see the parallels kind of upset me.....and still does.
It kinda makes me feel that they are allowing TLC to tell them "hey, look at the little birdie over here....don't look over there"....and it's working.
A significant part that also worries me is the whole Kate-hate dynamic. Would the whole thing be over and done with for them once Kate goes down in flames? Is it strictly Kate-hate and only limited to Kate?
Yes, Kate deserves the derision she's been getting.....but there was a whole cover-up that happened too.
AND....TLC is up to its old tricks....but with a new family.
I don't think the necessary lesson has been learned if it's just about hating Kate.
I don't know....maybe some people are having a knee-jerk reaction when I even mention HBB because there are SUCH horribly insulting comments out there on the internet and maybe they think I'm doing the same thing.
I'm not.....except possibly for that one time when I should have probably used the word "unsophisticated".....and that was in reference to the parents, not the child or any of the other children on the show.
Kate is easy to hate.....whereas June is easy to like. That doesn't mean TLC isn't exploiting her children any less.
Thanks for your comment. :) It helps a lot when others word things better than I probably did.
I was watching Couple Therapy on VH1. No idea who this one couple is but the father is talking about how he sold out his 5 year son to his show and he feels shame. He said to watch the show you would think is 5 year old is a brat because the editing only showed him acting out and not any other times. The father said "this is so fucking unfair to do to a kid."
Reminds me of how TLC typecast Mady in the beginning causing all those "I hate Madt Gosselin" websites that sprung up.
Now today we have America analysing HBB. Comments are ranging from calling her a brat, to remarks on her size, etc. It seems everyone is forgetting she is 7 and has no idea the ramifications of her being on this show will do to her future. No matter how nice Mama June seems..and she does seem to love her family...I do not think she realizes how messed up it is to set her child up as a farting glorified Red neck for public consumption.
Parents tend to turn a blind eye to common sense when the money is being offered.
I for one for love to see a discussion post of Honey Boo Boo. She is a reality tv kid and maybe a little attention should be paid to what is happening to her.
BTW Admin The Dr. Drew interview is tonight on HLN I just found out. Will have to watch for myself if I can bear it.
Kate is a twit said... 149
''She thinks she's won--but it still doesn't hide the fact that people already have copies of the book. IMO, it's not over by a longshot.''
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I agree that because Robert's book was pulled from Amazon, KK thinks she has 'won'. In my opinion, KK is barely hanging on to any sense of reality. It seems to me that somehow in her mind, the book being pulled means that everything in the book was never said and therefore no longer exists.
Or maybe she is thinking something else, and my mind can't come close to comprehending the way her mind works?
Just some thoughts:
Someone upthread mentioned Kate probably found out when she got home that she had been fired from CC. I'd be willing to bet she was informed of her dismissal even before the letter was published. If not, she certainly had to be made aware of it during her secret agent agenda week.
Regarding Mady's "fridge phone" (lol), why was that even necessary to tweet about? It wasn't "cute" (for pete's sake...she is TWELVE), nor was it even newsworthy. Kate's mind is a strange thing, and I guess she felt her adoring, whorshipping fans needed a morsel of the family daily life, no matter how mundane. *shrug*
Finally, I do not watch HBB. Sure, I saw her on Toddlers & Tiaras, but when I briefly tuned in to her own show and saw nothing but subtitles because not a word of what any of them were saying was understandable, I never bothered going back. However, I have no doubt TLC will destroy this family, too.
Just saying:
2 Million Americans Are Sociopaths
Psychologist Martha Stout – who – clinical instructor in psychiatry at Harvard Medical School for 25 years – estimates in her book The Sociopath Next Door that as many as 4% of the population are conscienceless sociopaths who have no empathy or affectionate feelings for humans or animals.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/08/as-many-as-12-million-americans-are-sociopaths.html
As for TLC and Bravo, I think the time has come to BAN children from ALL reality shows.
In this day and age, privacy and anonymity are a commodity. And their privacy should not be for sale for profit by the parents of these children. PERIOD. It's a loss of innocence. The children are not mature enough to make a decision. Just like rape.
At least in fiction, such as movies, the child has a somewhat veil of privacy.
Greedy Gosselins said... 28
Shouldn't the good 'dr.' have ethics, too? Why did he not put a stop to this? I'm no doctor but even I can see that this isn't right. What an asshole Drew is. He and Shill, I mean Phil must have been separated at birth.
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A few years ago, there were some shows on Disc/TLC about a family with quints, I think. One of the first shows had Dr T Berry Brazelton on. He was/is in his 90's and was in the family home talking with the parents like an old country family doc. At some point while this was being filmed, the good doc noticed that one of the quints was in quiet distress and called the family pediatrician and strongly suggested the infant be seen immediately for signs and syptoms of an acute episode of congestive heart failure. The doc told the film crew to stop filming and back off, the infant was in an emergency condition. Turns out the little girl was indeed in an episode of CHF, but I remember being impressed that his first reaction was to get the cameras away.
I have looked for the epi on YouTube, but I cant find the scene where he tells the cameras to stop and move back. maybe they scrubbed that.
My point is, that even fake TV doctors should have some kind of ethics especially when it comes to children and it is beyond disgusting that they would put their filming and their pay ahead of a child in distress.
I've never watched HBB and to quote someone else,I never will. I no longer do reality TV for reasons you all understand, but I am southern and I understand where Paula and a couple of others are with the "making fun of southerners" thing.
Being looked down on is to us as drivebys are to this blog. It happens so often that we are probably expecting it where it isn't even intended. There's a reason for that. People move in down here for our gorgeous weather then proceed to tell us how stupid and slow we are. I hope it isn't this attitude that's making HBB so popular, for that poor child's sake, but from what little I've seen and heard, I'm afraid for them all.
Btw, to quote a line fr a film, "Everyone I know has a name." Not a Honey Boo Boo or Sugar Bear in the lot, and they are all southern. :-)
In short, we may be a bit hypersensitive, but if we are, it's understandable.
If TLC or the country is making fun of a child or a family, shame on them.
@Jill~
Shoot...I knew I was going to forget to add this:
When Robert Hoffman first released his book on Amazon, Polly apparently made some comments there.....and I'm going to have to sort of paraphrase because I can't specifically remember them word-for-word.....but were taken as sounding rather critical and seen as sounding rather....petty/sour-grape-ish.
And that's my recollection...and most here were commenting that she (and Al W.) should be more supportive (rather than critical) since they all involve the same topic and perspective.
Oh...and let me also add....that what little Polly did say...paled in comparison to Al. W.'s comments.
(Polly’s book) I have read it, and I think it is actually a very good assessment and critique of many of the issues that concern me and many of you about all reality TV families! 146
Jill, I read Al’s book and found it tawdry. Not just what he was describing but by AL’s own choice of words to describe what was happening.
I was looking forward to reading Polly’s book until her poor choice (IMO) of a title, which focused on the Gosselins. Both Al and Polly’s reactions to Mr. Hoffman’s book were dismissive and condescending. I am only speaking for myself, but I have no use for either of them.
Reminds me of how TLC typecast Mady in the beginning causing all those "I hate Madt Gosselin" websites that sprung up.
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I was shocked to find that Mady was cast as the bratty one. This was years ago!
When you can Google (Insert your child's name here)+brat and find hundreds of entries, it's time to change the road you're going down.
Same thing with the tabloids of Kate and Steve. When your photo is splashed all over with headlines alluding to you having an affair with your bodyguard while your husband is keeping the home fires going, it's time to ditch the bodyguard.
I see Steve as a pernicious opportunist who usurped Jon's position in the family and got control over Kate big time. Still does.
anger issues kate said... 145
Sweet Tart: but remember, back in those days, that stuff was expensive, people did not make much money. When we compare it to today, it's geez, things were cheap, back then. Actually they were not. The house I live in, back in 1966 was $15,500, my neighbors house was $24,000(it was a newer house), but looking back, I could have owned many houses, with what I make today, but reality: the houses in my block go for $250,000 & up, not $15,000-$24,000. People did not make $30,000 & up back then(a few did, most didn't) $10,000 -$20,000, was considered good money, today you would just get by. Gas was $0.20 or less. Not like it is today $3.00 & up.
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Yep! You cant buy a new car now for what we paid for our first little house 35 years ago!
anger issues kate said... 135
Funny all of us(fans & non-fans) knew what happened before Kate did, she truely lives in LA La land.
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I kind of think she knew. I think she flipped the bird at CC and stomped off in one of her I'll-show-them fits. She's a bridge arsonist. She burns them all behind her. She thinks she won't be needing anyone because she's the great Kate Gosselin. Her narcissism won't allow her to think any differently. Now she's doing the happy dance because she's got something in the works that is sure to make some network sit up and pay attention. Yeah, sure Kate.
The funny part of it is ...look who she has left to tell these things to. NO ONE but a mysterious man/woman twitter entity who goes by the name of Milo and a handful of naive teenagers and mothers who seem have been raised as sheep. Oh yeah and Steve. He's still there stroking her ego and rubbing her feet and probably picking her pocket. Blech.
Oh and I'm putting out an APB for Dmasy. She's MIA for a few days.
Dmasy phone home.
I saw a clip of Heidi of Heidi and Spencer fame last night. She was talking about how the filming of her show was FAKE, from he fights to what they said to how they acted.
Did anyone else see it?
I would be interested in learning more about Honey Boo Boo. I watched the Dr. Drew clip and was APPALLED at her behavior. And the mom just sat there as her daughter was rude, aggressive and misbehaved. And yes, I understand the chid is tired, that's the problem.
The fact that the girl is contracted out for these appearances and the mother cannot ensure the well being/discipline of her child is horrible for the child's well being and social development.
heather
AuntieAnn said... 165
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Lol....great comment. "Probably picking her pocket"...yeah, I have to agree. Tucker's Mom put it great too: "I see Steve as a pernicious opportunist who usurped Jon's position in the family and got control over Kate big time. Still does." Great description.
I still...to this day....just can't imagine Steve still being romantically interested in her (if he ever was).....but an "opportunist"..."picking her pocket" makes a lot more sense to me. I still wonder....was he willing to "fake" romantic interest in order to pick her pocket. There have been rumors of hand-holding, etc....but nothing concrete was ever revealed.
And agree with everything you said re: "bridge arsonist" and doing the happy dance. It's amazing how you can make your fantasies work for you with just an opportunist and a sycophant feeding into them....and a tiny audience of fans. Her circle of enablers has to be getting smaller and smaller.
While I don't think Kate is going to host a nude talk show on VividTV, I have to wonder if she's the least bit mortified that talk has taken this direction:
SINN & SKINN.com @sinnandskinn
@Kateplusmy8 JOINING @VividCorp??? http://www.sinnandskinn.com/blog/kate-gosselin-joining-vivid-entertainment/7928 … pic.twitter.com/EBEJMOL7
I thought someone said that Kate was fired right after the NYC run. It's interesting that she just happened to have something lined up immediately after her firing. It's like she knew the shit was going to hit the fan and she went MIA underground until it blew over.
I just think that Kate should have been with her family during a time when she knows darn well that she will be splashed all over the headlines.
I hope at least the kids were with Jon.
Kate tweeted...Tons of errands today! I'm pausing in my car to snack on a Bella Bar.Have you tried them yet?Yumm-y! Get yours today!
Gawd. We're back to the Bella Bars again. I wonder if her supply has run dry and she's grifting again.
miloandjack
@mylilabbster @Kateplusmy8 @BIOGHAWG U've said it so well...the Gosselin 8 R loved, nurtured & taught by the one who cares the most...Kate!
Yet another underhanded slam at Jon.
Tweet-le De Tweet-le DUMB said... 169
While I don't think Kate is going to host a nude talk show on VividTV, I have to wonder if she's the least bit mortified that talk has taken this direction:
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I'm not surprised in the least that Kate would be offered nude work. She's dressed like a tramp and posed on the cover of a magazine in a barely there bikini that left not much to the imagination.
AuntieAnn, this is off topic, but I just want to say, please never change your avatar. That picture speaks a thousand words and is a constant reminder of why this site is so important.
Thank you.
Off topic: phones and water, unfortunately I have experience. Phone in fresh water, take the battery out, let it dry out for at least 24 hours. The dot that shows water exposure will stay red, your warranty is voided, but it will still work.
Phone in salt water, have a funeral service for the poor thing. Mine was in the waves at the beach overnight, miracle I found the thing. I was still shaking sand out of it a week later. I saved the pitiful remnants as am example of what happens when you take your phone places you really don't need a phone! Fortunately I did not have any fancy kind of phone, and I still have a paper address book with numbers!
I'm one of the parents that believes a child does not need a phone, except if it's a safety issue and then you just need the most basic service, i.e., calling parents and emergency services. My 13 yr, old does not have a phone, FB account, etc. He plays/interacts with real friends, (not virtual)and spends lots of time outside. Teenagers can barely communicate effectively face to face, much less through the nuances of text/posting. Children also become VERY emboldened when hiding behind a screen, and say things they would never say to another child's face. Also, when given a phone, you'll see that kids have a difficult time "being with the people you are physically with" (Kate has this difficulty).
Bottom line, my child can have a phone when he can pay for it. JMO.
@ heather~
"I would be interested in learning more about Honey Boo Boo. I watched the Dr. Drew clip and was APPALLED at her behavior. And the mom just sat there as her daughter was rude, aggressive and misbehaved. And yes, I understand the chid is tired, that's the problem."
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Re: Heidi and Spencer, for example. You have to watch the Reality TV shows and try to use your common sense and life experience. For instance....Alana's mom June was apparently interviewed and asked (around the T&T time frame) how much she spends on pageants for Alana.....and she said it was $15,000.
Fast forward.....and you see June trying to squeeze Alana into this pink pageant dress that clearly doesn't fit anymore and saying it will have to be used. Meanwhile, they go for fancy facials, etc. When on her recent media tour, Alana was wearing jeans that were much too small and at times, appeared unfastened at the waist (and she appeared to be wearing a pull-up underneath but that's a whole other story).
I don't for one minute think that June would normally allow her child to go on a pageant stage or out in public with clothes that don't fit her anymore. They are now making $20,000/episode plus getting all sorts of other perks (similar to the G.'s). I think that this is being done to maintain the shtick.....and the stereotyping. TLC doesn't care what kind of press their child stars get....good or bad. Whatever gets attention is more $ for them, from their perspective.
They have hit a goldmine with HBB and they are milking every possible negative stereotype for what it's worth.....including clothes that don't fit. And June, I suspect, is having to go along with a lot of this due to pressure from TLC.
Well, when I say "having to go along with it"....what I mean is that TLC is behind it and even has her contractually obligated for much of it.
The info out on the internet is that there were kidnap threats made against Alana, June became terrified, and now Alana has her own bodyguard.
And there is conflicting info out there....but some of it claims that because of the threats, June wanted to move to another house/location (and info I'm reading claims they rent the current house they are in) but TLC won't let her because the "house by the tracks" feeds into the stereotype (those are my words but essentially the gist of it).
I don't know which of the reports are true.....but I suspect that much of what is seen on the shows is TLC-engineered. The problem is that much of what they are intentionally engineering opens Alana for all sorts of criticism and insults.....and they just keep doing it....because she's money in the bank for them.
My kids have had friends that have gotten their phones (or ipods) wet.
Place the gizmo in a bag of dry rice. After a day or so, most often than not it will be fully functional.
@Kateplusmy8 Tweets
Kateplusmy8 Tons of errands today! I'm pausing in my car to snack on a Bella Bar.Have you tried them yet?Yumm-y! Get yours today! http://t.co/or7jYA51
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Nice to see she's still shilling for Bella Bars!
dee3 said... 168
I still...to this day....just can't imagine Steve still being romantically interested in her (if he ever was).....but an "opportunist"..."picking her pocket" makes a lot more sense to me. I still wonder....was he willing to "fake" romantic interest in order to pick her pocket. There have been rumors of hand-holding, etc....but nothing concrete was ever revealed.
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dee - you know the lightbulb just came on. That could be it. Maybe he is faking romance with her. Maybe he's even more of a user than she is.
And now that you mention it, not just Steve but any man would have to pretend to be in love with that woman. How could anyone possibly genuinely fall in love with her?
Call Me Crazy - You got it. It stays. :o)
Twittering And Twattering said... 171
The link that Kate included with that tweet goes directly to the Bella Bar website. I think she has some kind of deal with them to promote their product. She posted about them on her website back in July.
Kate hasn't tweeted about Bella Bars in a long, long time--not since the beginning of August. Maybe her deal with Coffee_Mate is done, and she's trying to jump start the deal with Bella Bars going again.
In my prior post....I meant to say $15,000/year.
Here is video of how long this filming of Alana holding her nose lasted. To me this seems cruel....how long they kept filming her:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlU_H8-lRJk
Amend my prior post to: $15,000/year.
Video of Alana being filmed with hand over nose. To me, it seems cruel that they kept filming her for so long:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlU_H8-lRJk
When I was a kid and I wanted something that only a parent could buy, I had to prove myself
responsible enough to handle it. That might mean I did all my chores without complaint, take great care of the pets, kept my grades up, etc. If I failed these things, I was not responsible and had not earned the right for
something that required responsiblity.
I have always had vision problems, and when I was in Jr. High School my opthamologist thought I would benefit from contact lenses. He talked to my mom about it, but she was afraid I would keep losing them. But, I promised to be very careful and follow all the doctor's rules about caring for them. I got them. Actually, I got IT. I only needed one, since I am blind in one eye.
21 - twenty one - years later, I accidently lost the original lens. I had taken such good care of it, got it polished regularly, did it all perfectly, that this lens was old enough to vote by the time it went AWOL. I was devastated. I had insurance on it, and got a replacement which never felt right. Soon I returned to my glasses.
Obviously, it was a "hard" lens, not one of the disposable ones used now.
My mom would have got me my own iPhone, only because I took very good care of things I wanted and cared about.
Mady might not have her phone for long, or may not get the next little goody she wants if she's not more careful.
Well, I guess Kate is free to shill for any product she wants now. I wonder if CC told her to knock off the grifting for freebies from companies that work with CC.
It would seem to be that Kate used her position at CC to get free stuff. Very unethical.
Beyond that, Kate is such a user and I wonder how it is that her ardent supporters and followers on Twitter aren't the least bit annoyed and insulted by it. It's all about Kate and what everyone can do for her. Buy Bella Bars so I get them for free!
She dropped them like a hot potato all last week and now that she's not preoccupied being the center of attention somewhere, she drops them a few bones, retweets bumper sticker bullcrap gobblygook and then goes in for the grift.
HBB was on Dr. Drew barefoot? Talk about stereotyping.
LOL
Kate wants you to go to her website and listen to a clip of her and the kids singing in the BBB.
NO THANK YOU
I'LL PASS
hahahhaahha
(File this under, "Obviously")
When you have the opportunity, please go to
Dr. John Di Saia's blog. He has another entry on Kate- this time it's about her augmented "saggy baggies".
http://www.cosmeticsurgerytruth.com/blog/
Kate's twittersode for today, obviously sponsored by Bella Bars:
kateplusmy8
Hey! Go to my website http://t.co/J4PZZkWF(preview) to HEAR a clip of my kids&me singing in the BBB... It'll make you smile, I know it made me :0)!
From her website:
Goss Trap children singing “Doe a Deer” with Mommy in the car..
October 23, 2012
The other day, we were coming home from running some errands together. My six spontaneously broke out in song along the way…and I joined in! This isn’t rare around here but it makes me smile and warms my heart, every time!
It’s the Goss Von Trapp family singers singing “Doe A Deer”Goss Trap children singing “Doe a Deer” with Mommy in the car.. with my tacked on lunch menu at the end …to the same tune!
It’s really cute and it reminded me once again why I love being a mom of 8! Everything is 8 times the fun.. And when singing, we make our own chorus group! :) How fun is that??! Enjoy!
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Don't ask me why-but I listened to it. They just sing the song over and over. However, in the middle, Kate manages to say "and now we're home" and then says "Hi Shoka!".
But you don't hear a sound from Shoka and none of the kids said anything to or about Shoka.
are you serious, she has audio of kids singing on her site??? crazee!
aggiemom09121416 said... 184
LOL
Kate wants you to go to her website and listen to a clip of her and the kids singing in the BBB.
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Very slick Kate! It sounds like they were pulling up the driveway and Kate says "hi Shoka".
I'm kinda bummed that Shoka isn't with Jon.
Pink 185
Can we say obvious?
If anyone wants to listen to the song, you don't have to go to her website. You can go here:
http://soundcloud.com/kateplusmy8/goss-trap-children-singing-doe
A Pink Straight Jacket For Kate said... 185
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thanks for the link!
a few clicks further down the page he estimates the cost of Kate's 'de-aging'.
Not to worry too much, Tucker's Mom 188
From KIAT 186
But you don't hear a sound from Shoka and none of the kids said anything to or about Shoka.
Kate is a twit said... 186
Don't ask me why-but I listened to it. They just sing the song over and over. However, in the middle, Kate manages to say "and now we're home" and then says "Hi Shoka!".
But you don't hear a sound from Shoka and none of the kids said anything to or about Shoka.
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Thanks for taking one for the team!
It sounds very, very weird, as if there's an ulterior motive. Does she always tape her kids singing? Hoping for a singing contract for them? Didn't she once hint at a holiday album? She'll exploit those kids forever and now their friends get to hear them singing a very un-hip song in the car with their mom.
ugh, I listened to a bit...talk about fake 'Hi Shoka.' I wouldn't expect any calls form music producers or Disney for the kids...and her lunch menu is the same as her 'lunch picnic Sandwich, yogurt, fruit, cucumber.
Rhymes with Witch said... 189
Pink 185
Can we say obvious?
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Yeppity yep ;o)
That was painful. Kate says "hi Shoka" in it and none of the kids say Shoka is not here, for what it's worth. Also Hannah yells at Collin to shush when he is worried about a bee and Kate tells her to be nice.
Would Kate please put her iphone voice memo app DOWN and keep her eyes on the road? You can hear the motor running, her signaling, parking and other driving sounds.
If anyone ever drops their phone in water (me, toilet), make sure to IMMEDIATELY remove the battery, and the SIM card (if it has one). Wipe off excess water with a paper towel. After that, there are several different ways to dry it out, including, yes, putting it in the fridge, or putting it in a container or bag of rice (I saw that one on the new show, "Elementary" and checked to see if it really works). This website gives more information:
http://www.advancedtele.com/save-a-wet-cell-phone.php
The "and now we're home" followed by "Hi Shoka" was very fake indeed. For one thing, they were in the car coming home. Would Shoka be outside if they weren't home? It's just another way that she's trying to convince everyone that Shoka is still around.
I could sit here and say "Hi Admin" outloud, that doesn't mean she's in the room with me.
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