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"Remember, the kids are just playing in front of the cameras, so." Kate Gosselin, Larry King Live, August 25, 2009.
A child on reality T.V. deserves to be paid fairly for their work.
A child on reality T.V. deserves to be paid fairly for their work.
The original TLC contracts provided for payment only to Kate and Jon, not to the children. After more than three years of filming, TLC finally established a trust fund for the children, in November 2009. The Gosselin children first appeared on screen in May 2006.
A child on reality T.V. deserves to have his or her money protected from their parents and others who may seek, either intentionally or unintentionally, to misappropriate it.
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Those are just some of the reforms that Rep. Tom Murt has been working for more than two years to get Pennsylvania to understand that they need. Yesterday, Governor Tom Corbett signed House Bill 1548, which affords reality T.V. kids and regular child actors the same protections. Among the reforms, it requires trust funds be set up, a parent or guardian must be allowed within sight and sound of the children at all times (the Gosselins were filmed more than once without Kate or Jon on set), and, perhaps most importantly, requires a studio teacher on set (a licensed teacher), even on reality T.V. shows, to facilitate plenty of time for mandated schoolwork and rest. Finally, an independent set of eyes on our children who are working.
A brief explanation of the hours a kid can work, which were modeled after California's strict laws and have been a little misunderstood in the press: Babies under 6 months can be on set a maximum of 2 hours. Ages 6 months to 2 years old can be on set for four hours, but can only work on camera for two. Ages 2 to 6 can be on set 6 but work just three hours. Kids ages 6 to 9 can work 4 hours a day but are allowed to be on set for 8. Kids age 9 to 16 can be on set for 9 hours, but can only work 5. The rest of the time must be devoted to rest and schoolwork. There is a mandatory rest period of at least 12 hours between consecutive shooting days. So if the family stays up late to film a segment about fireworks until 11 p.m., the children are not permitted to start work again the next day until 11 a.m.
Should the Gosselins ever film again, Kate will find herself facing some big changes on set. Thank you, Rep. Murt!
A brief explanation of the hours a kid can work, which were modeled after California's strict laws and have been a little misunderstood in the press: Babies under 6 months can be on set a maximum of 2 hours. Ages 6 months to 2 years old can be on set for four hours, but can only work on camera for two. Ages 2 to 6 can be on set 6 but work just three hours. Kids ages 6 to 9 can work 4 hours a day but are allowed to be on set for 8. Kids age 9 to 16 can be on set for 9 hours, but can only work 5. The rest of the time must be devoted to rest and schoolwork. There is a mandatory rest period of at least 12 hours between consecutive shooting days. So if the family stays up late to film a segment about fireworks until 11 p.m., the children are not permitted to start work again the next day until 11 a.m.
Should the Gosselins ever film again, Kate will find herself facing some big changes on set. Thank you, Rep. Murt!
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That is exactly what I was thinking. It is eerie to hear the exact same words...
Well....it worked. I pulled out the burner (a small one) from the electric stove and sat it on top of one of those candles in glass jars.....and then sat a small ceramic coffee mug on top.....and the lit candle heated a small mug of cooled coffee. Took a bit of time....but it was steaming hot. And the whole thing was kept on top of the metal part of the stove-top for safety.
Just realized I also have a nice-sized little hurricane glass candle holder with a pillar candle in it....bet that one would work even better to heat coffee with. Plenty of air gets to the wick when you put the *pulled-out" electric burner (coil) on top of the glass part and the flame heats the coils in the center part.
I'm gonna brew a couple pots of coffee tomorrow and put them in containers in the fridge just to have them ready. Might also run out and get a few more candles....if I can find any by then.
As long as I can have my coffee and my dog.....and a tree doesn't land on our heads. :D
anger issues kate said... 162
Some emergency food tips: Canned food, that you can eat out of the can. Like mac & cheese, spagetti O's, mini ravoli
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And SPAM! :)
dee3, I hope your idea with the votive candle works safely for you! Maybe see if you can still find Sterno Canned Heat at any of your stores. Might be too late... I am lucky that I can light my gas burners by hand even if the power is out. The oven wont light at all, but the burners will.
Here is a link in case anyone is not familiar with it. I have seen my mother and grandmother cook enormous meals using nothing but this!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterno_Canned_Heat
I have I disagree with that. Pit bulls are wonderful family dogs. I would get one in a heartbeat. Just because some people train them to be bad dogs doesn't mean the majority aren't wonderful.
Dwindle said... 166
In Kate's defense, she kept hearing Frankenstorm, and she thought it was the name of a halloween heavy metal band. All week long, she has breaking a sweat trying to arrange a free concert on her lawn; since Frankenstorm is comin' to town and all. Milo told her Hurricane was a-comin', and Kate thought that was the opening act, a country band maybe.
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Dwindle-Funny- there was a hair band in the 80's called Hurricane- LOL!!
Flight of the Kiwi said... 3
anger issues kate said... 162
Some emergency food tips: Canned food, that you can eat out of the can. Like mac & cheese, spagetti O's, mini ravoli
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And SPAM! :)
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WE LOVE SPAM! No knocking of the Spam! We love it fried on a nice non-stick dry griddle. But it isnt horrible in mac and cheese or anything you might put ham in. I have 3 cans of it in my pantry right now, NO LIE! (hehehe)
Dee3 If your dog is afraid of thunder, check out www.Thundershirt.com.The principle is that it soothes a dog in the same way swaddling does a baby.
I realize you may need something sooner! Try putting a T shirt on your dog that is slightly too small, but not uncomfortably so; this may help to calm your frightened pup.
I've been lucky - storms bring out the Husky in Nouschi,but my previous dog, Zoe, was terrified of any loud noise.
More than one child has been attacked by the family pit bull. Read this site. If we are going to advocate for children, then lets advocate for children, not Jons poor judgement.
http://www.dogsbite.org/staying-safe-family-dog-attacks.php
Agree about pitbulls ( lovely dogs) and that no pics of the kids be tweeted.
Agree not convinced June is truthful about HBB...time will tell, and motives change.'Money makes the world go 'round...'
Ok, she gets the generator. "Now where can I plug it in? What? I can't just plug it in? Oh, how silly of me. It takes fuel? I can only power up a few things, not the whole house? Let me think. Well, um I have to have my coffee maker and I have to have my computer, and I have to be able to tweet. What? Water, a lamp for light? The refrigerator? Oh, I guess but I can still have my coffee maker, right? The freezers? Oh, all of that was grifted so I'll just ask for it again. I'll be sure to open the freezers every hour or so to make sure everything is still frozen. The kids? Oh, they're FINE they'll just sit quietly thanking me for getting the generator to make our lives better."
What do yall think her priority list for power will be?
Kate has, I'm sorry but you're ridiculous. German shepherds have attacked kids too. That doesn't mean you can't raise a great GS. Chihuahuas have nipped at kids. I raised a nice chihuahua who is well socialized and likes kids and would never dream of ever nipping at anyone.
Do some research. Pit bulls are wonderful dogs. Bad owners make bad pit bulls, period.
re coffee: when we lost power for nearly a week due to a hurricane a few years ago we used our trusty french press and boiled water on the grill.
LoveMyGrandsons said... 171
I'm reading the posts and wanted to say, dee3, don't give another thought to rambling because you are not. I can only imagine how you must feel right now. Be prepared and stay safe, Sweetie. You know that all of us that are not in the path of this are praying for all of you that are.
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Since I live in the midwest, every spring I prepare a "tornado bag". The hubs teases me about this, but if something should happen, we are prepared for a couple of days. Not to mention, we have a generator ready, as well as flashlights, candles, etc. It's just something you have to be ready for here. I am amazed that a mother is as unprepared as Kate is. Lord, please let the kids be with Jon during this time
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I just wanted to vote along with you, LMG. I think anyone who wants to wait out storms with us here, and describe their readiness planning, it's all fine with me. Dee3 had a great idea about putting her burner grate on a candle, and I sure hope the burners will be ok too!
I am hoping it is ok with others here if posters continue to share worries and planning tips. I noticed a few pages back that someone got scolded about watching the weather warnings too much; this blog group is a caring and safe place to share worries!
~~ Also, LMG, I like what you said about tornado bags every spring. When my kids were home, I always did the same thing. I had them pack the bags themselves, a pair of old shoes, a change of clothes, a book and a toy, a sweater or something warm etc. we would store them in the basement. In threatening weather, I would have them grab their bed pillows and hurry down there. One year there was no time to grab anything extra - I'll tell ya, when you stand in your living room and say 'is that a train coming down my street'? it is time to RUN down the stairs! Even in your basement, the noise of the debris hitting your house and the wind roaring is horrible!
When you have children you must be prepared. Are you reading this Kate? you get a lot of ideas from this blog, so take this one. Each kid should have a bag packed in the basement. And be sure to include a pair of shoes in the bag, if something hits in the middle of the night and they have to run down the stairs, they will need shoes later to keep their precious feet safe from debris.
I do agree no pictures of these kids are best. It's too bad that no one can do normal things lots of parents do like uploading a cute Instagram photo thanks to Kate.
I can't agree with Jessie the kids hardly know this dog. How on earth do you know that? If they are wth Jon half the time they know this dog just as well as Shoka, if not more since he's actually allowed indoors with them.
Some pit bulls are nice some are vicious but all are unpredictable. A pregnant woman in San Francisco was killed by the family pet , male pit bull, when paramedics and police arrived the male was agitated with blood all over his mouth! The female pit bull was shaking and hovering in a corner of the room!
Pit bulls are unpredictable and you never know when they will attack! And they are strong, once they have you they won't let go!
Let's Throw Tomatoes
Dwindle, oh my your are right. A downdraft came through our neighborhood years ago. Always thought I would grab this and that because they were imporant. When it happened, all I grabbed was our son.
I have done research admin, thats why I posted the reference I did. Please read it. I'm not talking about a child being nipped, I'm talking documented cases where children have been mauled to death .
amyf said... 200
I'm a little concerned about what's going to happen here in the hellhole.
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Amy! YAY!
Look around your room and see if any of the outlets are red. Either the sockets themselves or the covers. Red sockets are attached to the generator, and by law a certain percent of all outlets have to be generator backup. And they MUST have a generator, fully fueled, and it MUST be run and checked every month, usually. The time frames depend on what state you are in, but some of these regs are federal.
If the power goes out, flashlights will be like gold, but maybe you can get a member of the nursing staff to slip you one for your own use. On the other hand, if you do have one of your own, guard it with your life and do not loan it, not even to the head nurse. you will never see it again, i'm afraid.
Oh to live closer!
optimist said... 108
Just want to offer a couple storm tips from a Florida native (w/apologies if already offered, or if too obvious!):
-if no electricity, a stovetop coffee maker will come in handy if you have a BBQ. (That will help avoid endless lines just for coffee at the few Burger Kings with electricity)
-after everyone's showered, you may want to clean the tub well and fill it w/water. You can't drink it, but it can be used to flush toilets.
-a friend of mine buys sod to put in her lanai for her dog to relieve herself until it's safe to go outside (interestingly, during one Hurricane, the dog moved from room to room as the storm shifted in order to be furthest from it. so, if you're blessed with a beloved dog, you can always follow their lead)
-take care outside afterwards due to downed power lines.
-also, at least here in Florida, you can sometimes be surprised by a harmless black snack that takes refuge in your garage
-remember, the media always seems to make it scarier than it needs to be.
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Optimist, your tips are very helpful; I had never thought of the sod for the dog! I have sent that tip on to someone I know in the path of it all, and he set it up in less than an hour, in his attached garage in an area that is elevated (less risk of flooding there). Thank you, a great idea!
Yep, Dwindle, we had our personal tornado bags in the crawlspace (we don't have a basement). Down there I also had a couple flashlights, candles, and a battery operated radio and first aid kit. Every spring I would change out my daughters clothes so there would be things that fit her because obviously, she grew.
The tornado bag in the hall closet had food in it. I kept it in the closet so when fall came I could remove the canned food in there and use it. The next spring, it would be replaced with new canned food and crackers, etc. I always kept a gallon or two of water next to the bag as well.
It's just what normal moms do to make sure their family is taken care of, even during a weather disaster. I don't know how Kate's mind works that she never thinks of these things.
carolina peach said... 17
Dwindle, oh my your are right. A downdraft came through our neighborhood years ago. Always thought I would grab this and that because they were imporant. When it happened, all I grabbed was our son.
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Your son! It happens so very fast, one ends up feeling lucky just to get the family to a safe spot! no time to grab anything, like you say!
I've read lots of things about all kinds of breeds of dogs and attacks. I've also watched One Nation Under Dog. There are just as many resources out there explaining how to raise a nice dog, even a pit bull. It's criminal all the pit bulls in shelters because people have been brainwashed to believe they are all attack dogs and can't be brought up to be nice family dogs. A dog you leave outside all the time and never give enough attention is far more likely to hurt your kids, no matter what the breed.
Rhymes -- The TV I have is an RCA and has a built in, rechargeable battery, much like a laptop. The battery doesn't last very long -- about 1 1/2 between charges, but in an emergency, or if you have a USB charger (or a car charger) that's fine. You can also charge it off your laptop.
Grandsons -- I based my conjectures about KK based on what I've heard about her father's personality and behavior, not because he's a fundamentalist pastor. However, it's just a conjecture. You may be entirely correct and she's just playing with people. With her, who knows. She just has always impressed me as being someone who talks a good game, but when push comes to shove, she's very insecure. And how's that for a bunch of mixed metaphors?
kate has big feet said... 18
''I have done research admin, thats why I posted the reference I did. Please read it. I'm not talking about a child being nipped, I'm talking documented cases where children have been mauled to death .''
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As far as I'm concerned, those children were in FAR worse danger from the mother that violently abused her toddlers during toilet training. I'm sure I don't have to cue up documented cases of children being murdered during toilet training. Toddler w/hands super-glued to a wall sound familiar? How about this:
“Collin decided to pour the beans all over the floor while I was inside peeling potatoes, so the girls told me and I sent all the offenders inside. Well Collin didn’t like that I sent him in and when I was out in the garage, I heard three large bangs… I went inside and three highchairs were on the floor literally. I was instantly so SO angry, that I grabbed him and spanked him as hard as I could and thought I may seriously injure him so I sent him to his crib…. And whipped him into it very hard! I for the first time thought I may really lose it and am glad that I just let him in his crib til Jon came home! I have never felt that I may really seriously injure a child but today was that day! I don’t know what it is about Collin! He is usually kind and caring and nice and tender but when his temper flairs…. Watch out! I don’t like that he doesn’t know how to handle his frustration and anger! I didn’t even get a chance to have have him apologize to me because I had to drop everything and take Alexis to the doctor!”
Hoffman, Robert (2012-09-27). KATE GOSSELIN: HOW SHE FOOLED THE WORLD (Kindle Locations 7507-7512). . Kindle Edition.
Admin, regarding pit bulls. I must respectfully disagree with you. I watch Peoples Court every day, and every time there is a dog attack case, it seems to be a pit bull. The owner says the same thing. They are a good dog and never did this before. The judge says the same thing, that the majority of the cases she has regarding dogs always involve pit bulls.
I worked with a lady that had 2 pit bulls, and one attacked a neighbor. She said the same thing, he never did that before so she didn't know what the neighbor did to make him attack. My opinion was what did the neighbor do to get mauled?
I'm sorry, Admin. They can be good dogs I guess, but I think it maybe just something in that particular breed. For the record, I have never owned a pit bull so I do not know first hand. However, in all honesty, I would be afraid to let my grandsons around one. Sorry.
All animals are unpredictable. I still think the animal that gave birth to the 8 is more dangerous than any canine.
A close friend of mine rescued a pit bull. He's a sweetie. My niece was mauled by a small dog when she was a toddler- it some kind of poodle-terrier mix and she visited this dog (the family) all the time. It mauled because she went to touch the dog's food bowl and she happened to be alone w/the dog- her parents and the dog's family were inside- she and the dog were outside. It's a shame it happened, it's breed wasn't a 'dangerous' breed, but you should NEVER leave small children alone w/dogs.
My friend's pit bull is doing well- he's well adjusted and isn't aggressive- no reports of dead farm animals :D
readerlady, Kate may very well be insecure. However, I personally have never gotten that impression from her and I may be blinded by my total dislike for her and how she treats her children.
I guess my point was (and not very clearly made), is that an adult has to take on responsibilities in the adult world, especially when their own children are involved. If she cannot handle it, then she needs to go for counseling. Many adults, including myself, have done that to deal with the effects of a not so good childhood.
Penny said... 27
All animals are unpredictable. I still think the animal that gave birth to the 8 is more dangerous than any canine.
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OMG!! That's it in a nutshell. I'm still laughing.
LMG,
When neighbors get attacked they usually are intruding on the dogs territory, unless the dog out, which happened to me, but luckily I fought the dog off :)
We had rottweilers- who were VERY territorial and we had our obligatory "Beware of Dogs" signs and sure as heck a neighbor, a GROWN man, reached over our fence and tried to pet our rott- WTF? Out rott tried to bite him. Would have served him right, but we would have been sued. So stupid.
Here is a suggestion for being prepared- yes, you can fill the tub, but also the washing machine. Makes good toilet water. You can use the tub water for sponge baths. Just get a pot full, warm it on the grill or gas stove. Not the best way, but at least you have something, especially with little kids. Get some of the dry shampoo to keep on hand too. Oh and baby wet wipes and hand sanitizer.
We also have a binder that has important papers in it. This can include a copy of pets shot records in case you have to evacuate and board them someplace. It does not have to all important papers, but the ones that would be really difficult to replace. Your insurance policy may be several pages, just make a copy of the front page with your policy number on it.
We used to be stationed in Florida so we learned about rough weather. Stay safe everyone
Thanks, Dwindle. There are a few red outlets that I can see - I'll probably have to choose between my laptop and a lamp. Unless the internet connection goes too! I doubt that anyone will slip me a flashlight, though, and certainly not batteries. Wish I could get them from home. :-(
Does anyone watch "Pitbulls and Parolees," 10 p.m. Sat. on Animal Planet? It actually makes me want one, and those who have absolutely negative feelings toward them ought to watch an episode or two.
Good point, butterfly. I don't know the details of the neighbor being attacked, just the co-workers self-righteous attitude when telling us about it. I guess that colored my opinion as well.
Is the dog in the picture even a "pit bull"? It's not an AmStaff, which is what most people refer to as a pit bull. I thought it was a boxer mix. At any rate, I agree that the kids are in far more danger from their gestational carrier than a family dog. GSDs can turn on people and maul children too. I used to be terrified of GSDs because when I was little there was one that used to roam our neighborhood and it was vicious. It would come up in our yards and try to attack. Our next-door neighbor finally shot it because it attacked another neighbor's Spitz (now called Am. Eskimo) and went after her when she tried to rescue her dog. Unfortunately, Daisy (the Spitz) didn't survive. People have been mauled by Golden Retrievers, Chihuahuas, Beagles, and mutts. Any dog can attack if provoked. It's unfair to brand an entire breed based on the failures of bad owners.
Thanks to Aggiesmom for posting RH's GOSSELINBOOK excerpts about last year's (harrowing!) Halloween storm.
Seems as if she learned NOTHING from that experience. Nada, whatsoever.
Oh wait. Maybe she learned that being melodramatic elicits the kind of sympathy and attention she so cravenly needs. And thus...
Reprise, 2012.
Pit Bulls used to be known as the "Nanny Dogs" because they were so good around children. Google it. It's very interesting. When you see these cases on the court shows on TV you really have no idea what the home life of the dog truly is. I've had close experiences with two pit bull dogs and I have to tell you they are precious.
My nephew and his wife found a puppy pit bull wandering around the streets of Detroit. She was bloodied and battered and in terrible shape. They picked her up and rushed her to the vet right away. Come to find out, this little puppy was used as bait in pit bull dog fighting. Well, they kept her and she is the best dog ever because she is loved and cared for and she knows it, in spite of her history. She will actually crawl up in your lap and hug you.
If you treat animals with love and respect, you'll get the same thing back from them. Did ya hear that, Kate??
To be totally fair, my daughter had a little lap dog that was a terrier mix. Her name was Misty and after awhile, I was probably the only person in the state of Illinois who loved her, or could even stand her. She was such a pain in the a$$, but never to me.
She would snap at people all of the time and just be a royal pain. I finally told my daugher, who was 17 at the time, that she needed to take her to obedience school or she would have to go (the hubs was not happy with the dog at all, mainly because she always snapped at him). To my surprise, my daughter chose to give her away to a family whose kids fell in love with her. If I had known she was really going to give her away, I would have taken her to obedience school myself and kept her as my dog. But it was my daughter's choice.
Now, to get to my original point (the hubs calls me "Edith Bunker" for a reason), I also would not have felt comfortable having Misty around my grandsons because she was so unpredictable.
After all of the posts here, I will try to change my opinion on pit bulls. They still scare me, and I wouldn't feel comfortable having them around my grandsons, but I will try to be more open minded. Thank you everyone for your enlightening stories.
LMG -- I agree with you completely that KK needs counseling. Unfortunately, I think it would take an entire team of counselors, working 24/7, to make even a dent in her pathology. I dislike her intensely, too, but I also pity her. She's one screwed up individual, however she got that way, and she's missing out on so many of life's joys because of it.
I keep an evacuation bag packed for my cat. It has a few catnip toys, a fuzzy bed, enough cat food for a week, her shot records and her vet's name and phone number, her pedigree, and a couple of pictures of her (for ID purposes). I rotate the food out every couple of months. If any of you think you'll need to evacuate, don't forget any meds your pets take, as well as your own. I keep a small litter pan and a bag of litter in the car all the time (the litter also comes in handy if you get stuck in snow). Also, if you don't have enough carriers for all your animals, pillow cases work in a pinch. A lot of breeders I know keep a stack of pillow cases handy in case they need to evacuate their cattery in a hurry. Stick kitty in pillow case, fasten it shut, and away you go. It wouldn't work for a large dog, but it would for a small one. Of course you can't leave them in the case for long periods of time, but at least you can get them out of danger.
I am terrified of Pit Bulls.The pit bulls belonging to the homeowner behind us have destroyed a total of 8 boards in our privacy fence as well as digging under the fence and waited for us to return home. The homeowner assured my husband that the dogs only want to 'play' with our dogs. We have had to call Animal Control and the local Police Department twice since July 2012 re the aggression and damage. We're keeping track of events on our wall calendar as well as the Incident Report Numbers provided to us. Unfortunately, no action can be taken by the agencies until something happens. We can, however, defend our property, ourselves , or our pets IF the dogs come on our property and we feel we are in danger. We can shoot the offender(s) but I hate the idea of a gun.
readerlady, I agree with you. There are times when I have felt sorry for Kate because she has been blessed with so much, yet seems to be throwing it away with both hands. All because of her love for fame.
my ex husband grew up with all kids of dogs, but for some reason, he is comically terrified of Doberman Pinschers. He has also told our kids that I am irresponsible for having a Rott. I am thinking he is afraid of my Rott too, due to the similar markings. DD told me this story, all the while my Rott had shoved his big self up into the chair to sleep on DD's lap. Big baby - the dog not the daughter.
My point is, I think sometimes we might have a bad experience with a breed, maybe even something we cant quite pinpoint or recall, and that influences our reactions. I know there are a lot of breed specific city bans on some dogs, it's kind of too bad. I am of the school of thought that any young dog, treated kindly and properly, can be a good pet for the right family. Maybe I am wrong.
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Is the dog in the picture even a "pit bull"? I thought it was a boxer mix.
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EXACTLY what I thought.
Jo,
your story gave me a stomach ache- that poor little puppy!! I cannot believe people do that. Disgusting. Heartless.
LMG,
Awww, maybe it was for the best it ended that way. Seems to me dogs have personalities that are as diversified as people- some are cranky and some are sweethearts. So many books (and people) try to stereotype a breed, but really, each dog is an individual. Yes, my dog displays characteristics common to her breed, but she also she behaves in ways not common to her breed, so what does that mean? It means she is who she is. (LOL, yes, that was my way of slipping 'it what it is' into the topic). SHe's just my dog- sweet, cute, and sometimes a pain in the butt. I think she feels the same about me. C'est la vie
It's partly due to social conditioning and partly because of personal experience that I don't care to elaborate on here. But I cut a wide swath around pit bulls, and would definitely keep my young charges away from them. Far, far away.
Ridiculous? I don't think so.
I do realize that others have experiences & mindsets that vary wildly from mine. I listen to, respect and honor their opinions, no matter how they came to be.
I think it's important that we allow for differences of opinion, without calling someone out for having them. We all get to make our own choices & decisions -- about these and other matters, right?
Sheliahky said... 41
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AWW, Sheliahky, that is an awful way to live. But I place the blame on the neighbor! Where the hell are these dog owners while their Pitt Bulls are digging their way into your yard, eating your fence, etc! That should not be allowed! Those dogs are left alone to their devices for too long out in their yard, and they are bored! They need training, toys, change of scenery, human attention, walks, assignments to challenge their brains. I could be wrong, but they sound like very neglectful dog owners.
Walking Fido on a leash.
Incident 1. Pit Bull came flying down the sidewalk while Fido and I were walking up to our house. Fido stopped to scratch. Pit bull
came around the corner, jumped on Fido, got him by the throat. Stitches required. Fidosmommy bought pepper spray. About a year later, this dog did the same thing to another dog. Owner had him put down.
Incident 2. About 2 months later, a pit bull
was in his yard while Fido and I were walking on the sidewalk across the street. Pit bull charged and caught Fido. Pepper spray did its thing and Fido and I got into a parked car and I honked the horn until someone came out. Stitches required. Pit bull owner ticked off about pepper spray, called police. Police sided with me. People with dog blood in their car were wonderful, very helpful.
Vet told me he hated pit bulls for this very reason. I'm not fond of them either after what 2 of them did to my dog.
Later that same year a chow attacked Fido.
Is it the dog's fault? They should have been behind secure fences, not loose. The owners did not act responsibly. But I still hate pit bulls and chows because of Fido's experiences.
Improbable Dreams,
Of course you are right.
I admit when I see a pit bull, a rott, a doberman, or a dalmation (yep) or a german shephard, I get scared. I was attacked twice as a young girl, not seriously hurt thank goodness, but I have had a HUGE FEAR of dogs growing up- I am talking paralyzing fear- even being afraid of our own family pets (rotts- why did my mom get rotts??)
I understand when people are afraid. I really had to work on my fear, took years. My own dog, I admit, is a toy breed- LOL, I can deal with that size.
I hope you dont feel you are being attacked for your opinion.
It's not a good idea to let kids around ANY dog you don't know. It's also a good idea to teach kids how to properly approach and pet dogs, dog behavior, and things that might upset a dog like disturbing them when they're eating. Common sense prevents tragedy. There is no reason any breed of dog can't make a good dog for someone. Remember some sick people are breeding dogs to be violent instead of breeding them out. Knowing your dogs background is crucial. Pit bulls not bred to fight can be as lazy as bull dogs.
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I agree, and if I sounded argumentative, i deeply apologize. I respect all of the regulars here too much to offend anyone on purpose.
I have had experiences with small children nipped or bitten by dogs, it's terrifying and infuriating. And I have little personal experience with Pits.
Again, I really am sorry if I sounded cranky towards any posters here on this topic.
My uncle had a female pit she stood by his side while he was very sick.
She was a very kind and loving dog to me and I was a stranger.
Poor Fido!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if the little guy never wanted to go for a walk again! :(
Dwindle, I have to agree with you about the dog owners in Sheilahky's post. They are not watching their dogs or training them. I would have been very upset if one of our dogs was digging holes to get into a neighbors yard. Now that I think of it, I should be addressing this post to Sheilahky.
My daughter's dog, Misty, as small as she was, learned how to climb our chain link fence and get out of the yard! Our neighbor's son, Roberto, was so sweet, because he would always catch her and bring her back to us.
Now, to clarify, I always put her on the 20 foot chain when I let her out. However, my daughter just opened the door; one of the reasons we told her to take her to obedience school. Roberto always joked with us that he got his best exercise when we had Misty! What a sweet kid he was.
Yes! I forgot about Spam! They have turkey spam, it's pretty good. And Cherios and like.
Here a personal heating source, besides your hubby, kids or BF or GF, your walking, barking, eating, pooing etc :"portable heater" man best friend and mine : dum roll: the dog or if you have a cat. They generate a lot of heat, and who would not want to cuddle with this warm fuzzy?
anger issues, turkey spam! Oh my gosh! I am not a lover of any of the turkey products: turkey sausage, turkey ham, etc. However, in a pinch I guess it would do. Lol!
One of my favorite memories is driving from Ohio to New Jersey to visit our grandparents. As one of 5 kids of an airforce dad and sahm, we did not have a lot of money. Usually we drove straight through, but for some reason we stopped in West Virginia this trip. I must have been 4 but I remember going up up up a mountain into the fog to a motel. And we ate cold spagettios for dinner. What in the world was about this trip that that stuck in my memory? Kate is always talking about "making memories" but memories aren't made, they just happen. They happen with siblings going to visit extended family and sharing something unusual for dinner. I went to the store today in advance of Sandy. Guess what I deliberately made sure I bought? Spagettios!
@ butterfly:
This is for you, I thought maybe you would get a giggle out of it. I hope you know I mean no offense to any nation's Navy or service members. This is just funny, and I hope all next week you have a happy smile when you see any of your sailor men!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcDSO1mpiPg
Anyone who watches this, I hope you can giggle at the silliness.
Thanks, Dwindle and Butterfly. Your posts were by no means insensitive! I like that you shared your insights and experiences, without putting down anyone who might disagree. Typical, I might add, for most people who post here-- a key reason I keep comin' back! :)
I'm sure the person who said that didn't mean it to come across harshly. We're a passionate group (as am I). I need to remember that. Peace. :)
Dwindle,
Thank you- I giggled the entire time :)
I needed that- I had a not-so-good day...
Sharing this on FB w/my other sailor friends :)
I have known several pit bulls personally, although have never owned one. By and large they are faithful, friendly and sometimes goofy dogs.It depends a great deal on how they are raised and by whom.
In our city we have gang members and wannabes who think their dog is an augmentation to their private parts, and strut around with their Pitters on chains with spiked collars, and smack them to make them mean.When the owners go to jail the dogs wind up being euthanized because they have become vicious.
I have also read that the dogs who did the most biting in a recent year were Golden Retreivers.
I wonder if the dogs on People's Court are all Pitters because they make for better television than cocker spaniels.It's a Reality show, people...
My favourite author, Terry Pratchett, says "Never trust a dog with orange eyebrows!"
Localyocul: spagettios: like eating cold pizza. Nothing wrong with that, was eating it during the summer, cold out of can.
Don't forget your pets. Stock up on canned food.
Aggiemom: thanks for posting some book. Kate is such a drama queen. When we had that 3 ft of snow in Chicago and surrounding areas, I got outside, met up with my neighbor and we shoveled out the alleys, so most of us can get our cars out of garage. Everyone shoveled their own place, so did I. What's Kates excuse, she had 9 count them 9 people living there, and none of them can shovel snow? I was shoveling snow at 8 in 1967, when Chicago had the big snow. My Dad and my brother and I, shoveled and played a bit, my brother got out a sled, and took me sledding around the area. Then my brother and I went and took a walk and took pics. We had just moved in to that house in Oct of 1966, 46 years ago. And who knew at that time, that my dad would be gone 5 years later.
IDModo, we had a golden retriever and I would never have guessed that they were the ones that did the most biting. You're right, it's reality television so who knows what the truth is? Thanks for pointing that out.
When folks come up to us when we're walking our rescue dog, will ask, "Does she bite?". The only safe reply we have is to say politely and with a smile, "Never before, but she does have teeth." Our dog loves us but we can't predict how she will react to a stranger.
Honestly, her life goal is to catch the mail carrier so her looks are deceiving.
anger issues, I remember that snowstorm of 1967! I was in 4th grade and school was closed for 3 days.
I keep an evacuation bag packed for my cat. It has a few catnip toys, a fuzzy bed, enough cat food for a week, her shot records and her vet's name and phone number, her pedigree, and a couple of pictures of her (for ID purposes). I rotate the food out every couple of months. If any of you think you'll need to evacuate, don't forget any meds your pets take, as well as your own. I keep a small litter pan and a bag of litter in the car all the time (the litter also comes in handy if you get stuck in snow). Also, if you don't have enough carriers for all your animals, pillow cases work in a pinch. A lot of breeders I know keep a stack of pillow cases handy in case they need to evacuate their cattery in a hurry. Stick kitty in pillow case, fasten it shut, and away you go. It wouldn't work for a large dog, but it would for a small one. Of course you can't leave them in the case for long periods of time, but at least you can get them out of danger.
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I agree with the evacuation kits for pets too. My family was evacuated in February due to flooding. We were given 10 min to pack up and leave. It took longer to pack up the animals and their stuff then it took to pack ourselves up because we did not have evacuation kits for them. No one was expecting the evacuation orders. The water came so fast no one was expecting it. We now keep a rubbermaid bin packed and labeled for each kind of animal. They have vet records, food, toys and for the cats we have a cheep litter pan and cat litter. We keep an extra harness and leash for each pet in the bins. That way we dont have to go searching for them in an emergency. The pet carriers are right next to the emergency bins. All of the bins are stored on a shelf in the master bedroom closet. We found that the rubbermaid bins work well because they are water tight and easy to grab and go.
anger issues kate said... 62
Localyocul: spagettios: like eating cold pizza. Nothing wrong with that, was eating it during the summer, cold out of can.
Don't forget your pets. Stock up on canned food.
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Stocked up on her prescription low oxalate kibble! And bought her some extra rawhides. Oh, and thundershirt is at the ready!
I remember that snowstorm too! I was 5.
OH, boy, all this talk about pets is making me miss my Cody (and my Jake and Misty, too).
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Dwindle,
Thank you- I giggled the entire time :)
I needed that- I had a not-so-good day...
Sharing this on FB w/my other sailor friends :)
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Well, I am glad you got a smile going, after a hard day. :-)
Here's another tip for those of you that have fish as in tropical : if you use bottled water or even milk ones(just make sure you wash real good, milk leaves a film) put your measured water conditioner, in the gallon, and fill with water, and let it sit, and be sure to mark the gallon water container, fish water. This is in case of power outage and filter stops, you can take out some water and replace with fresh(oxygen), then use dirty tank water to flush toilet. As for heat: you got me on fish. Cause you usually have a heater in the tank. If you have birds or other critters: towels to wrap half way around birdcages, hamsters too.
Andrea, I'm impressed! You actually have room on your closet shelves to put the bins. We barely have room for our clothes in our closets! Yes, I admit that we are pack rats and it is all in our bedroom closets!
Lovemygrandsons: sorry. Try to remember the funny things your dog did. I've lost pets over the years and remember them all, all the crazy, funny things they did. .
The thing about pit bulls, is if one does attack, it's powerful jaws can do seious and sometimes fatal damage. I agree that when raised by a responsible owner, they can make good pets. Unfortunately, many people are not responsible pack leaders. When does someone's right to own a pitbull trump the general public safety? At some point, the bad owners will cause one horrific death too many and communities will ban the breed.
One more thing: make sure you have enough medicine, OTC and prescription. If power goes out, so does the drug stores.
Readerlady, thanks for the tip on the pillow cases for cats! Sending that on to someone I know with 2 young cats, and I KNOW she does not have crates for them. A great thing to keep in mind!
Admin@50 said: Pit bulls not bred to fight can be as lazy as bull dogs.
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Hey now! My English Bulldog resembles that remark! As I sit here typing he is lolling on "his" couch with his head hanging over the edge. He is very tired from doing nothing but sleep all day. Oh wait...he woke up to bark at the mailman!
Oh my, Y'all are making me feel ANCIENT!! I was a freshman in college for that snowstorm of '67. Visibility was nil. I went to a small university and there were no dining halls in the dorms, just a central one on campus. Maintenance strung ropes from each dorm to the dining hall so we could get there and back safely. The campus library closed, classes were cancelled, and the power went out. We had a marathon Eucre game going on my dorm floor. People wandered in and out and we all wound up sleeping in the lounge because it was the warmest room on the hall. It was fun, but a bit scary, too.
We had a menacing boxer dog in the neighborhood last year who killed a chihuahua and ran after my dog a moment later but I swiped him up off the ground just in time. Someone called animal control and the cops came out. I still think boxers are lovely dogs. I don't hold this incident against all boxer dogs. In chatting with the cops who were taking my statement they said they knew these people and they were bad news. The dog was neglected, had been nursing puppies and maybe was ripped from them too soon, was too skinny, had matted hair. They took her away. Never found out what happened to the poor thing but she's not around here anymore, I fear she might have been euthanized.
There are in my opinion two big factors. One the dog's breeding--was he bred to be a fighter. Two how did the owner raise them, did they raise them properly so they are well socialized, disciplined and sweet, or did they neglect, abuse or otherwise were ignorant about raising dogs. This boxer was in the second group. Any dog can be raised poorly from big to small. To me the very tiny risk that a dog raised correctly will attack is worth the love and affection they bring. The other option is to never own a dog and never go near any dogs--that's not an option for me, I want dogs in my life. I volunteer with a rescue and take on a risk that a dog with a neglectful background might cause problems--but I also know that with my knowledge and experience I am in a good position to try to help that dog so he can be a sweet dog who would never hurt anyone and not a statistic.
In my opinion there is no reason to fear any dog who was raised right and has a good breeding background. It's always a good idea to be cautious of all dogs--even small ones.
This originally came from some notion that the kids need to be protected from that pit bull. Couldn't disagree more. I doubt Liz is raising pit bulls for fights. If that dog has a good background and was raised right there is no reason the kids can't be around him like any other dog. If Kate tried to complain about that to the judge based solely on the breed, she'd be laughed out of the courthouse.
I am, truthfully, far more concerned about Shoka. Shoka is being neglected, is attacking and killing animals, this is setting up a dangerous scenerio where he could attack people next. His breed can and does kill too. They have big strong jaws too. They are bred to be POLICE dogs. The kids are FAR more at risk around a neglected dog than any sweet pit bull loved and raised right.
If you are prone to power outages its good to have basic camping supplies, like a coleman/propane stove, lantern. They throw off a lot of light, if you want to read etc.
Should also have cash on hand - and don't plan on take out food being available if there is wide spread damage. It could be almost 2 days b4 any crews are able to go out to even start evaluating and making repairs to lines, etc.
We used to camp, I have my mother's old Revere ware percolater. If you have a generator, you can plug a lot of stuff into it. We have it set so w/ one plug my husband has it wired to power the refrigerator, TV, and freezer and pellet stove in the cellar. We use extension cords with drop lights which have two or three receptacles to plug in other items, like computers, phone charges. We have several run through the house, and bring one into the kitchen to have good light when cooking. We even used one to power the soft sided water bed. Not supposed to use a coleman in the house, but I set it up on the counter near a partially open window. During last October's storm, after a week, we started experimenting and also ran the regular coffee makes, microwave, toaster over, crockpot and even the vacuum, of course, not all at once. If only we could run the garbage disposal and dishwasher... Overall we were w/o power 9 days, had intermittent cable service. By day 9 I was ready to try plugging in the washing machine, but didn't get that far. We did applaud the out of state power workers when they finally came down our street. I did remember today we need to get paper plates and bowls tomorrow. -- sorry for the long power. I guess it helps that both my husband and son were Eagle Scouts - they get well prepared.
People that waited until today or even yesterday couldn't find 5 gal gas cans, batteries and water. Luckily we had 6 cans that my husband was able to fill up today. During the first Gulf War, I was pregnant, we had a plan of where to meet hundred of miles from home, near Niagara Falls - I had basic cloths and cash in the car.
Get your stack of reading material ready....
By the way the reason Liz tweeted that pic was in response to this from the famous dog trainer Cesar Millan. It wasn't just, I think I'll just randomly post a pic of the kids.
Cesar Millan @cesarmillan
In honor of today being National Pit Bull Awareness Day, share this Pit bull gallery of photos from Cesar's fans.
readerlady said... 79
Oh my, Y'all are making me feel ANCIENT!! I was a freshman in college for that snowstorm of '67. Visibility was nil. I went to a small university and there were no dining halls in the dorms, just a central one on campus. Maintenance strung ropes from each dorm to the dining hall so we could get there and back safely. The campus library closed, classes were cancelled, and the power went out. We had a marathon Eucre game going on my dorm floor. People wandered in and out and we all wound up sleeping in the lounge because it was the warmest room on the hall. It was fun, but a bit scary, too.
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!!!!! I can picture it!!! The ropes, the sleeping... AWWW that you for sharing that. There must be pics somewhere, I'll have to inquire.
These disaster tips are really great, I thought I had heard it all but I'm still hearing some new ones I never thought of or heard of. I have family in South Carolina and they are already getting hit. I think it's going to be a very long week as it makes it's way north.
Admin, you are right. If a dog is abused, they will be more prone to attack. My Cody was a 120 pound German Shepard, and he could be fierce if he needed to be. However, most of the time he was a sweetheart, especially with my grandsons. And they loved him dearly and began to cry when I told them Cody wouldn't be here anymore and explained why.
He played with them, he slept with them, he chased them when they were running and called him, etc. He was just such a loving part of our family and I still miss him.
Yes, neglected, abused dogs are more likely to attack because they don't know any better. So, now I have completely reversed my opinion that I commented to you about earlier about. As my husband would say, it's the "natural blond" in me so I can't make up my mind!
I know this has been asked but why does Kate still have Coupon Cabin and all her posts listed at the bottom of her web site? I also wonder how long Coupon Cabin will keep the "looking for Kate" link up?
. Never claim to tell anyone how to raise their kids.
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In this country, we're allowed to tell people how to raise their kids. That's what CPS was set up for. That's why we have laws saying you have to buckle your kid in the car, you have to put a helmet on their head (in many states), and even in Delaware, you can't spank them. Moreover, if Kate doesn't want people to tell her how to raise her kids, she could simply stop discussing her kids.
Don't like it, there are plenty of third world countries that are happy to let you raise your kids as you see fit. Including sending them off to sweat shops every morning.
I know this has been asked but why does Kate still have Coupon Cabin and all her posts listed at the bottom of her web site?
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LOL. Because she's lazy. Or because maybe the intern is refusing to do any more work until she actually gets her paycheck.
My fiancee is in VA Beach this weekend. He says the weather is fine, rain and wind that is appx 20mph...he was ready for the hurricane, so we are relieved that so far it is minimal. FIngers are crossed it stays this way for the rest of the weekend and for his journey back to DC. (still chance of flooding)
I hope the storm is just as minimal for everyone here, and your families, as well.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 87
. Never claim to tell anyone how to raise their kids.
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In this country, we're allowed to tell people how to raise their kids. That's what CPS was set up for. That's why we have laws saying you have to buckle your kid in the car, you have to put a helmet on their head (in many states), and even in Delaware, you can't spank them. Moreover, if Kate doesn't want people to tell her how to raise her kids, she could simply stop discussing her kids.
Don't like it, there are plenty of third world countries that are happy to let you raise your kids as you see fit. Including sending them off to sweat shops every morning.
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I was going to reply with a remark about raising children Taliban style- according Sharia law- but I didnt want to get overly snarky ;)
Hey, it's their kids, they can raise them how they see fit, right? Of course not! What is wrong these people??
dee3-
And as far as I know, this isn't supposed to be a thunder/lightening event....as our poor dog is terrified of that and becomes a basket case. He's absolutely terrified of thunder.
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Dee3 If your dog is afraid of thunder, check out www.Thundershirt.com.The principle is that it soothes a dog in the same way swaddling does a baby.
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I recommend you check the thundershirt out too. My sister in Texas got one for her dog as she is just terrified also and the thundershirt has been very helpful. But oh the irony, you know what her dog's name is? SANDY!
Regarding all the preparation going on for our east coast posters, having lived in "earthquake country" in So Calif my entire life, I've always had an emergency kit at the ready, both in my home and in my car as they suggested for many, many years. Then I would take things out that I needed at the time and never replaced them, so that now I basically have no kits. But reading the blog this day reminds me that I should put one back together because, unlike you who have warnings about the approaching storm, we get no warning with earthquakes.
Tomatos, a few facts about the attack on the pregnant woman in San Francisco. The dog wasn't neutered. That tells me right there we're dealing with irresponsible dog owners. Responsible dog owners (unless you are a breeder) fix their dogs not only because of the population problem but because it helps dogs be less aggressive. This dog was 125 pounds, WAY too huge for a pit bull. Probably wasn't even a pit bull at all, or at most a mix. Which proves the point that any dog can attack, not just pits. The local Human Society chapter was interviewed about the incident and even they said, as to pit bull issues: “primarily lying with the owner.”
I have such a heart for dogs, all dogs, and this breed has suffered so.... so many of these dogs are being bred to be monsters because some people think an attack dog is cool. And then the media picks up on the story and convinces everyone that the entire breed is bad news. That is not their history at all. These used to be known as "nanny dogs" because they were so good at looking out for children in the family. Then somewhere along the way someone thought it would be fun to have them fight. Sick.
I know I am late to the conversation about Kate and her generator. Jon lived there a few years so if she had one I would think he would have showed her it. Also why would some of you think she would call him up to help? I wouldn't ask a thing from him if I was Kate. She will be ok and so will her kids. They maybe at Jon's now but they will be back home tomorrow night. The kids will be ok. She will be ok. Me on the other hand may not be.
Hey, it's their kids, they can raise them how they see fit, right? Of course not! What is wrong these people??
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I know, right. What about the kids, what about THEIR rights to be raised in a manner that is safe, comfortable and happy?
It's a ridiculous notion, you're allowed to raise your kids as you see fit. Does that mean that, if you see fit, you don't have to educate them, feed them, cloth them, and can make them plow fields all day or make brooms in a factory or make bricks in the hot sun? Welcome to the third world. We've come a lot further than that. We're supposed to be a society who takes care of everyone, even if that means protecting them from their own.
Oh Jo I missed your "nanny dogs" comment! Well glad we both said it, this was a dog that was bred to look after CHILDREN.
Until one day someone decided it would be "fun" to breed them to fight.
Kate will survive, I have to disagree with you. The issue is that Kate doesn't plan for emergency situations, as her tweets have proven yesterday and today. First she tweeted that she wasn't aware of the hurricane, althoug it's been on the news for days. Then she tweeted about generators, how they work, where to put them, and that she was trying to get one.
Adults pay attention to these issues and prepare for them. Especially if they have children that live in the home. Kate acted clueless about this whole situation and that is NOT acceptable for a woman responsible for 8 children.
Here's another important point I've read a lot about. At what age you separate a puppy from his mother can be the difference between a good dog or a bad dog.
There is a growing group advocating for leaving puppies with their mothers for four, five or more months. That's because the mother does a lot of the teaching about what is acceptable behavior. Specifically biting and how to play nicely with others and socializing them to things.
You can have a lovely dog if you take the when they are very little, BUT the key is you have to do a lot of the training that the mother would have done. You have to teach them not to bite and how to play nice. As you can imagine, some neglectful, ignorant owners are not giving them the proper motherly training when they are little. The problem escalates. They become bad adolescents and even worse adults. At that point correcting bad behavior becomes very hard and it often ends in the dog being given up or tragedy happening.
Dwindle -- I don't know of any pics off-hand. I don't have any (most of my pics were lost in a fire about 20 years ago). None made it into the yearbook, AFAIK.
Lovemygrandsons: Your also talking about a mom who is not aware of weather(the last birthday filmed, when storms came in, stevie boy was watching weather radar, and told kate to get the kids in house), same mom who knew her kids got sick on boats, but took no medicine with for them. And she is a nurse? What kind of nurse? Her nursing skills suck.
lovemygrandsons,
I guess I am a bad mother then....
ADmin, I didn't know that about how young a puppy is when you take them from their mother. When we got our first dog, Jake our golden retriever, he was only 11 or 12 weeks old. I bought him at a pet store. He was so scared the first few days. The hubs was on his annual fishing trip, I left him a message about the puppy, and to make Jake feel better, my daughter and I slept in our bed with Jake between us. Maybe that was why he bonded to us so quickly. He was too young to be away from his mother and my daughter and I spent a week cuddling him and letting him sleep with us. As he got older, he followed us everywhere. Although he eventually became the hubs dog. For 9 years he followed him everywhere and my husband was broken up when Jake died unexpectedly.
We thought we would never have another dog as good as Jake was, and then we got Cody 2 years later.
I'm confused why are you a bad mother, Kate will survive?
More ER tips don't forget to unplug stuff, power strips, TV, computers, appliances, if power goes out, cause when it comes on that surge could burn your stuff out. Even if you have a surge protector.
Admin -- It's the same with cats. A lot of people don't understand why breeders don't usually let kittens go much before 4 months of age. One of the reasons is because the longer you leave a kitten with its mother and litter mates, the better socialized it is. There are fewer behavior problems, fewer litter box issues, and they are generally much healthier and better temperament. Also, they have a full set of vaccinations by then and are often spayed/neutered.
Kate will survive, I never insinuated you were a bad mother. I was responding to your post about Kate and voiced my opinions about how she was not prepared for this situation. I got my info from her own tweets. I did not say or infer anything negative about you.
Because I didn't think ahead and get a generator. Because I don't know how to use one and so I guess I am clueless as well. She and the kids will be fine. She always is.
My rescue almost always tries to aim for puppies between eight and 12 months old.
At that point you have a pretty good idea what kind of adult dog they're going to be. You know what you're signing up for. Either the socialization and teaching happened from their mother or their previous owners, or it didn't, and they only take on the ones where it looks like they're probably going to be a great dog.
Since Kate has gone quiet again, maybe Kate did go to LA. Though I don't think she is prepared for this race.
Everybody be safe, keep in touch if you can.
kate has big feet said... 9
More than one child has been attacked by the family pit bull. Read this site. If we are going to advocate for children, then lets advocate for children, not Jons poor judgement.
http://www.dogsbite.org/staying-safe-family-dog-attacks.php
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Thanks for the link kate has big feet. I now believe, more than ever, those dogs have a tendency to attack no matter how they are raised. True not all of them will, but why take a chance with a child's life?
"The pit bull terrier is the breed of choice for criminals. This choice is directly linked to the pit bull's selectively bred traits of robust jaw strength, a deadly bite style, tenacity (gameness) and a high tolerance to pain."
"When the Colorado Supreme Court upheld the Denver pit bull ban in 2005, the high court set aside characteristics that pit bulls displayed when they attack that differ from all other dog breeds. One of these characteristics was their lethal bite:
"[pit bulls] inflict more serious wounds than other breeds. They tend to attack the deep muscles, to hold on, to shake, and to cause ripping of tissues. Pit bull attacks were compared to shark attacks."
"Leading pit bull education websites, such as Pit Bull Rescue Central, encourage pit bull owners to be responsible and to always carry a "break stick" -- a tool used to pry open a pit bull's jaws -- in case their dog "accidentally" gets into a fight. These same websites also warn that using a break stick on any other dog breed may cause serious injury to the person.12 This is true because no other dog breed possesses the pit bull's tenacity combined with a "hold and shake" bite style."
"But whether a pit bull bites more or less than another dog breed is not the point. The issue is the acute damage a pit bull inflicts when it does choose to bite. The pit bull's "hold and shake" bite style causes severe bone and muscle damage, often inflicting permanent and disfiguring injury. Moreover, once a pit bull starts an attack, firearm intervention may be the only way to stop it."
Ok, I'll agree to disagree for now and move on.
Sorry for anonymous but still having trouble signing in.
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Kate will survive, it's not about a generator and I'm sorry of you took my comment that way. It was Kate's cluelessness about about the storm, asking about a generator for her 4 freezers, etc.
Two years ago we had a bad storm that took out the power and one of our neighbors and good friends, didn't have a generator because they had 6 kids and couldn't afford one. There money went to more important things like house payments, and clothing and food for the kids. However, the hubs had an old generator in the garage (who knew? I didn't), so we gave him the generator to keep their fridge going.
I'm sorry, Kate will survive, but I do think you are taking my comments to personal and they were not directed towards you. They were directed towards a wealthy woman who claims to be self-sufficient, yet is clueless about the weather in her own area.
Kate will survive, is your living situation just like Kate's? Kate's situation with the big house in the country really calls for a generator as her emergency plan. She's also more likely to have to wait longer for power to be restored than those of us in the city or country.
I don't know how to use a generator either. Well I sort of remember from my childhood when power went out a lot more frequently and I'm sure I could figure it out. But I live in a dense suburb with no good safe place to put it. I'm not even sure if they're legal here. Our family has an alternate plan. The fire hall and community center is within walking distance and would be the evacuation point in a disaster/earthquake, tsunami. We also don't have a heat or cold issue out here. No one is going to die of cold when it was 85 degrees today and will be mild all winter. That's not the case in PA, the house would be unlivable at this time of year if you lose heat.
The point is not do you have a generator, the point is are you keeping your family safe.
I don't know, without a generator, with trees down and roads closed, I am no alarmist but someone who lives in such a rural area actually might NOT be fine without it. We went through a terrible ice storm in '91 and it was NOT fine. This one came with no warning, they had no idea it would be this bad, so we just had the emergency kit we always had and the canned food in the basement but that was it. I never in my life want to feel as cold as I did that first day. It was bad. The discomfort didn't last long before my parents came up with a solution. Thankfully, once the roads got a bit clearer we drove to my grandparents who still had power and had to stay there six days. But I'm glad in a way we experienced that, it gave me an understanding of how bad things can really get and how things are not fine without a good plan in place.
Now me, yes I can say with confidence I'll be fine without a generator in my current living situation. But my living situation is night and day from Kate's. I guess she will be fine but she may have to resort to the Red Cross or something and put the kids through a lot of discomfort. Simply getting a generator should prevent anything that bad.
Kate will survive: Your not a bad mom. Kate is a bad mom. Kate has been telling us for years on how organized, and masterplanning she is. Shoving it down our throats. On JK8 & K8, insisting she is very organized. Now if you read the recent passages post from the book, tonight, that is what happened LAST YEAR!. Kate did not learn one thing from last year. Or use common sense: she lives in the country/rural area, you get lots of snow sometimes, bad storms. Power goes out. I would have purchased a generator, when I moved in there. For keeping freezers, and heating, etc, going in case of power outages. Kate is just lazy!
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If she's running the marathon tomorrow, which I doubt, it's going to be hot. 85 I think and very sunny. That's rough running weather and can feel a lot hotter when you've been coming from the cold weather.
People she's quiet because the kids are with Jon.
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my pit bull puppy was raised with our family since 8 weeks old. Loved by the entire family, plenty of room to run outside (we have an acre). Someone was always home with him. Very smart and playful. Had him outside with my other 2 dogs who are terriers and out of blue right in front of me he attacked one of the other dogs almost killing him. He was 6 months old. Gave my other dog deep tissue cuts that resulted in 30 stitches. I have heard the argument that bad owners make bad dogs and I disagree with this. In hindsight after speaking with the vet, I would never have a pit bull with other dogs. I also would never adopt a pit bull puppy. Their personalities do not become established until after 3-4 yrs old. Fortunately we were able to place him in a good home since he was housebroken and a good dog. The sad part was he loved playing with our other dogs and vice versa. My other dogs were very sad and depressed after he left. I also miss him very much.
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Thank you Admin and anger issues. You both explained it to Kate will survive much better than I did.
Also: funny how Kate can spend $500 for a meat slicer, but can't get a generator, but then buys a used one. The name Twisted Kate fits.
No I am not in Kate's situation. But she is not in mine either. I don't judge anyone. She may act clueless but I think she is smarter then she lets on. Sometimes it is more beneficial to act like a dimwhit and get good answers then act smart and everyone ignore you. Ever think of that? I have a smashed leg from my knee to my foot thanks to a drunk driver. I am doing the best I can with my 8 month old daughter but it is not enough. Kate will survive, her children will survive, you will all survive and so will I. Be safe and aware.
It's a combination of bad owners and bad breeding. A good owner with a badly bred dog could have issues. A bad owner with a well bred dog could also have issues. If you have a dog who is being bred to be an attack dog yes that could cause problems. But many pit bulls are not bred this way at all. I would never just buy a pit bull off Craig's list. You have to do your research.
Colorado was right to ban pit bulls because that state is one of the greatest offenders for breeding attack dogs. The dogs in that state are having bad characteristics bred IN. Whereas go to some state where it's not that popular and the population is less likely
When you really delve into this the media spin will shock you. The American Temperament Society which evaluates breeds for good temperament scored pit bulls at 82%, very high. The average for other dogs is only 77%.
Statistics of attacks are also misleading because pit bulls make up so much of the dog population, more than one out of every 20 dogs is a pit. So of course there will be more attacks. Just like there will be more robberies in a city of 1,000 compared to a city of 20. But if you look at attacks based on what percentage of the breed is attacking, GERMAN SHEPHERDS are attacking more than pit bulls, as well as Chows and Rotweilers.
There is no campaign to take away people's German Shepherds. There is no cry from the sheeple not to let the kids around Shoka. And yet that breed attacks more.
It's like any good story, the media likes a good villain. Pit bulls are that villain, and it's a tragedy for all the nice dogs out there.
Percentage wise, the amount of German Shepherds who will KILL: .00217%
Percentage wise, the amount of pit bulls who will KILL: .00125 %
So if you're going to make a wide circle around every pit bull you see, make sure to do it for German Shepherds too.
Just like the freezers, what the hell Kate have 4 large freezers, for? I can see the Duggars having 4 freezers, there are 21 people living in that house. There are only 9. One large freezer would do. I have a small freezer, and I have to clean it out and see what is in there, that is too old, freezer burned, most food has a limitation. I just checked with the meat manager at the food store on Hamburger patties, never openned, I found in my freezer, they are 2 years old, they told me it's too old. But then this is Kate, the person who makes kids eat stale food, and old candy.
Parent, I know this is late but I wanted to say that you most likely will never get TV stations on your little set again. in 2001, right after 9/11, the President at the time spearheaded legislation mandating that all major TV stations over a certain megahertz get off the airwaves and onto digital feed only.
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Dwindle, thanks. We went through the whole digital/analog here. I did get the local channel on the small battery television last week. Not the greatest reception, but I could watch it. I have no idea what happened since then.
I was watching the path of Sandy, following the east coast, parallel to the shore, looks like it is going to head east into the Atlantic, and then bingo, it makes a sharp left headed for us. The weather guys said they've never seen anything like it. All I could think of was that Sandy heard about the Rumspringa here and decided to make a detour, heading straight for Amish country. I know we welcome tourists here, but this is ridiculous.
Yikes, hope that leg heals quickly! That's awful.
I think we have a right to judge someone who is of able body not properly preparing for something everyone else seems to have no problem preparing for. When people don't prepare, it hurts everyone.
When the Red Cross comes in to bail out Kate, an able bodied woman that should have prepared herself, that is time spent not getting to YOUR house and resources that should be spend on YOU. If everyone acted like Kate, fumbling around, people would DIE. But Kate as she reminds us is one giant exception to the rule. She is allowed to park in fire lanes and get police escort because she's special. Can you imagine if everyone acted as helpless as her? Like I said, people would die because we don't have enough emergency resources to bail that many people out. The East coast is DEPENDING on people to take care of themselves so that resources are freed up to take care of those who cannot. This isn't a joke, lives are at stake. For every Dee and Berks and Lancaster Country who went to the store this week and stocked up, that's three families who will be prepared who won't be a drain on our precious emergency resources. That's lives saved, and that's the truth.
There are plenty of people who cannot prepare as well as her--people like you with broken legs, the elderly, the sick, the shut ins, the mentally ill or mentally challenged. You think it's just okay that someone like Kate would take away from people like you? Because I sure don't.
Also there is a simple solution to this. If Kate doesn't want her storm prep judged she simply need not tweet about it. What could we say about all this had Kate not tweeted such idiotic, helpless tweets?
I saw that sharp left turn. What's that about, are they explaining it? I never remember seeing that before either but that's what all the maps are showing.
Kate will survive, I am so sorry for the awful thing that has happened to you. You are not a bad mom; you are doing the best you can for your sweet little daughter. I hope you have a support system to help you through this. God bless,hon.
So if you're going to make a wide circle around every pit bull you see, make sure to do it for German Shepherds too.
Well said, Admin, and I do. Add Rottweilers to that list, as well.
I'm risk-averse, I admit it. Some of my caution is borne of personal experience, and some of it's based on, as you phrased it, "media spin." I'm not sure the root cause really matters, at least for me. The outcome's the same.
See the only effort, Kate makes if it is free, or someone else did it and she takes the credit for it. That is why every opportunity that has come along in the last 7 years fell through, cause Kate never makes an effort to follow through or research. Being nice to the people on the way up(no matter what they do in life) cause these are the same people you will see on the way down. If you are nasty to them or used them and dumped them, they will remember and not give you the time of day or be nice to you. And Kate was a nasty Nelly on the way up, people don't forget, even over time.
Admin, that sharp left turn is not the norm if you are talking about the hurricane. It is colliding with a noreaster and that is what makes it scary. No One on the east coast should make light of this. I will survive so son't worry about me.
Oh please don't encourage this woman to go back into nursing! Geez, I could not imagine sitting across the nursing desk from her. She doesn't even know if her Home has a generator? And if that isn't bad enough, she is asking a stranger where it is? Holy crap.
Sorry, didn't realize I was a day behind on reading. Work night shift and can't pull my 1st pink iPhone out and read while on the job.
Everyone should decide how much risk they are willing to take on for themselves as long as they are fully informed of what the risks actually are. If you adopt a German Shepherd over a Pit Bull because you are scared of Pit Bulls, you just adopted yourself a MORE dangerous dog.
It's a shame though. German Shepherds are great dogs too.
Grandee4 said....129
She knows if her home as a generator. No one, save for her sheeple, is fooled by her pseudo-hysteria. It's a tired reprise of her Drama Mama act, circa Halloween 2011.
(See also: RH's book, HOW KATE GOSSELIN FOOLED THE WORLD excerpts, posted by Aggiesmom upthread.)
Admin. I was living in the Bay Area during the pit bull attack. They put the male to sleep but the husband was trying to save the female. I felt bad for everyone involved.
You can not say that a dog is bad because of its breed. When my kids were little I had a Doberman and a toy poodle. The Doberman was a pure bred and beautiful. He was the nicest of all the dogs we have ever had! The toy poodle would bite your head off if you got near to me! He once bit the mailman because he was handing me the mail!
Maybe it's their reputation but I'm afraid of pit bulls and their close proximity to children! But I wouldn't want any dog , whatever breed to be abused !
Let's Throw Tomatoes
P.S. Grandee4, mea culpa! In reading my comment to you again, I realize it may not have come across as I intended.
I am admittedly cynical about Kate's disaster prep tweets today, given her history/histrionics from last Halloween. But In no way did I intend to suggest that YOU should've interpreted her tweets as I did. You are free to draw your own conclusions, as is everyone else who reads them.
I too remember the blizzard of 67 in Chicago. Us kids loved not having to be in school, Getting to build snow tunnels everywhere and we thought that was so cool
I was around 6 at the time
OK I hope some of you aren't making fun of this storm because I gotta tell you all the conditions are flipping scary.
Whether Kate has a generator or not, I just find it weird that she seems more worried about her 4 freezers than anything else, plus the fact that she just had to mention that she has 4, count em, 4 freezers.
During a power outage, I'd be more worried about having heat, water from the well, and lighting so I would not have to use candles or flashlights. Also, to have access to radio or TV to get the latest updates on the weather.
Yes, you do worry about food spoilage--but shouldn't you worry about your family's safety first?
Earthquake in British Columbia, felt in Seattle. Good grief - what is going on? Hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, all at the same time. Apocalypse? Just so there isn't a plague of locust...
So if you're going to make a wide circle around every pit bull you see, make sure to do it for German Shepherds too.
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Everyone's fears are different and a lot of them are unfounded or illogical. It sounds like you're dictating what fears a person can/may have and those a person cannot.
I am afrid of moths. They won't kill me. They don't even bite but I'm still freaked out by them. I'm not afraid of bees and they sting.
Kate is a twit said... 137
''...........During a power outage, I'd be more worried about having heat, water from the well, and lighting so I would not have to use candles or flashlights. Also, to have access to radio or TV to get the latest updates on the weather.''
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We are talking about a person that didn't even know that she could use her gas kitchen stove w/o electricity last year!! Even when that fact was explained to her, she said she didn't have any matches because ''they scare me''!! All that was last year, and this woman that has the IQ of a box of hair probably won't remember that she could use that ''candle lighter thingee'' in order to cook anything on the top of her big ole kitchen stove. Or to start a fire in her fireplace, for that matter. Anyone wanna bet that KK has no clue about any of that this year?
I know that if I were w/o power, I would be getting my butt down to vote early, just in case everything was messed up on election day. But then again, I'm not KK.
Remona Blue said... 140
It sometimes amazes me how quickly "Can Do Kate" morphs into "Hasn't a Clue Kate". I remember that about the stove last year. She was moaning about not having coffee, or being able to cook, etc. And yes, I remember this tweet:
@xxxxx @xxxxx I don't have any matches-- they scare me! But I would have tried a candle lighter thingee had I known! :)
Matches scare her--but a $500 meat slicer doesn't?
She can't make up her mind-she's "Can do Kate" trying to prove how she does it all--yet when something such as a snowstorm or hurricane approaches, she's all "Woe is me--I don't know what to do!"
If she is that clueless in a possible emergency situation, I really hope the kids are with Jon.
Rebecca that's different, you recognize the difference between moths and bees. Myself I'm afraid of flying even though I do it, and even though I know it's more safe than driving. I am aware of the facts, I just choose to let irrational fears take over.
The difference here is inaccurate information. I.e., that pit bulls are the most dangerous breeds, that pit bulls attack the most, that there is something inherently vicious about this breed, that all pit bulls are vicious and unsafe for children, that the Gosselin kids shouldn't be around Liz's dog (even though, statistically, Shoka is more dangerous), etc. This does a great disservice to a wonderful breed bred to be good with kids. If people are afraid of pit bulls after knowing that information, fair enough, but a lot of what was said here today simply isn't true, but is a good example of how the media molds and shapes people's perceptions of things by telling stories a certain way and then before you know it people believe them to be facts. I myself bought into the lie that pit bulls are somehow this terrible breed until becoming involved in a rescue and learning the truth. Personally, I still avoid any large dog I don't know, be it a pit bulll or anything else.
Whether Kate has a generator or not, I just find it weird that she seems more worried about her 4 freezers than anything else, plus the fact that she just had to mention that she has 4, count em, 4 freezers.
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Hey she spent a lot of time cutting coupons, watching sales and hoarding all that organic chicken like those crazy apocalypse people who have 200 gallons of water stacked in their garage. No wonder she is worried. Plus now that Coupon Cabin fired her I heard she might be banned from using coupons ever again so how will she build such a beautiful stockpile again?
OK I hope some of you aren't making fun of this storm because I gotta tell you all the conditions are flipping scary.
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I'm not being snarky, but I think it's kind of hypocritical to say we shouldn't judge how Kate preps from the storm, and then for you to turn around and judge people who are "making fun" of the storm. You just said "I don't judge anyone" yet you just did.
I've had to skim a lot of comments today since I was out most of the day so maybe i missed it but I didn't see anyone making fun. But, if they did, making fun is probably how they are coping with what everyone is saying is going to be terrible.
When I'm nervous I want to make fun and laugh. It calms me down. It doesn't mean I'm not taking things seriously. It's my coping mechanism. It's a crutch that calms me. And, I think it's healthy to try to keep things light. You'll go crazy waiting around for this storm otherwise, it's going to take awhile to inch its way up. In my opinion criticizing anyone for making light is judging them.
I was in PA in 2003 for Hurricane Isabel. Someone mentioned 2003. I remember that so vividly, right down to bringing in all my porch furniture from outside such that I had a little porch set up in my living room lol.
Last year, after the snowstorm, Kate posted pictures of the tree "damage" on her website. She prefaced the post with
Our Power Has Returned!
October 31, 2011
More to come on this subject soon…ohhh the things I learned!
So what did she learn--how to act like an imbecile so her tweeties will worry and fret that she and the kids will be okay?
I'm not buying what's she selling.
Forget dogs I'm terrified of earthquakes! If they would tell me a hurricane was coming tomorrow I'd would have left last week! Pack up the kids and pets and I'm outta here!!
Now earthquakes are so sudden and they are scary! Living in California most of my life I have gone through a few and they scare the dickens out of me! No warning, they happen and if you are one of the unlucky ones you are dead!
Let's Throw Tomatoes
Just checked the Run RocknRoll website. Kate is not listed as one of the runners for the LA half marathon today. So I guess CC was sponsoring her, and when she was fired, the run was cancelled.
She complained about sciatica--now she has Hurricane Sandy as an excuse. I can hear it now if anyone asks why she didn't run in LA--
"I'm so upset that I couldn't run---but my children and their safety is more important. I felt I should be home with them during this time"
So then you realize you're kind of wasting your time trying to change people's fears. We agree most of them are illogical so posting a bunch of logical facts (if true) isn't going to change anyone's mind.
I admire your persistance.
If Kate is tweeter silent either Steve is with her or she is with Steve . No way is she alone! It was ridiculous that " Can Do Kate " was ever started because Kate can't do anything on her own.
If she had not fallen for Steve or if TLC had never come a knocking Kate never would have left Jon !
She is not going to any marathons that are not sponsored and paid for by someone else!
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Sleepless In Seattle said... 138
Earthquake in British Columbia, felt in Seattle. Good grief - what is going on? Hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, all at the same time. Apocalypse? Just so there isn't a plague of locust...
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We have a tsunami warning in Hawaii as a result of the earthquake and the civil defense sirens have been going off all evening.
My ex husband is a helicopter logger on the Queen Charlotte Islands very near where the earthquake hit. We have a contentious relationship, however it would devastate my little guy if anything happened to his dad.
I've been trying to reach him to no avail.
Greedy Gosselins I hope your EX is fine and you get a hold of him soon. Good luck!
Let's Throw Tomatoes
This Halloween , I tried to go as a Republican.But I couldn't stick my head far enough up my a$$!
In stead of can do Kate it should be can DOTE Kate.
Kate is a twit said;Matches scare her--but a $500 meat slicer doesn't? i don't think she uses it herself, it's for her personel chef, the one that prepares all the food!
Tomatoes, you are so right. Have not seen latest on storm but being a Katrina and Isaac survivor, I can truly say that everyone must be prepared. Kate is in a rural area and should evacuate closer in. She can get a few hotel rooms out of path and be just fine.. You can replace food, clothes, cars, etc. you cannot replace a life. That is what happened in Katrina, people got tired of leaving, driving 12 hours for a normally 3 hr trip, spending money on hotels, food and gas only to turn around and go home after the storm made a turn and all was well. It seemed like every season we were doing that, so when Katrina came, people let their guard down, the result was too many lives lost. My family left, I was on duty at the hospital, yes the one in New Oleans, Memorial Medical. Center(google it). Stuck there for 5 long days, not knowing when we were going to get rescued. And when we were rescued it was days later when we found out what happened to our patients on the 7th floor that they were unable to evacuate. Not trying to scare anyone, this storm is nowhere near Katrina, just saying, everyone must be prepared, especially folks outside of city limits.
I'm still not totally convinced that Khate's house doesn't have a permanent backup generator. She could be playing her tweeties for attention.
I just can't see a house of that size, in that isolated of a location NOT having one installed at the time of construction.
Perhaps in the surprise of the Halloween power outage last year she forgot she could just flip a switch and fire up the backup system. Or maybe it was one of the "little details" about the house that she didn't pay attention to at the time of purchase (I have no idea how involved they were in the process). Maybe it was one of those "Jon details", she would never know about it.
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On to the dog discussion...
I got bit by a dachshund when I was 7. He was old and mean, I misjudged the length of his chain and put myself in his path. Funny thing, I was more afraid of big dogs, even after getting bit by a small dog.
As long as we're talking irrational fears, I'm terrified of spiders. If I even think there's one in a room, I won't go in if I can avoid it. I've learned to kill them on my own, but I still scream if I see one, and it's an involuntary thing. I see a spider and I just scream. I've tried to stop but I just can't. Even little pinhead size spiders. SHUDDER!
kate will survive -- Your situation is a lot different from KK's. She's an able-bodied woman who touts herself as being super organized and a "mastermind" at everything. She has, as she is fond of continually reminding us, responsible for 8,count 'em 8, children, yet she doesn't bother to keep up with current conditions in her area. She makes no effort to learn about the resources available (or not), IN HER OWN HOME, where she's lived for 4 years! Instead, she spends valuable time moaning and groaning and complaining to her "tweeties", who are strangers to her and who do not live in her area. She always complained that Jon was clueless, but she is, quite possibly, the most clueless individual in existence. She's irresponsible and downright dangerous at times.
Hope everyone in the path of the storm is taking all necessary precautions and will be safe, warm and dry. The only good thing about this situation is that the temperatures are still relatively mild, so even in the snow areas, people should be able to stay warm enough to survive. Prayers and good thoughts heading in your direction.
I was watching the path of Sandy, following the east coast, parallel to the shore, looks like it is going to head east into the Atlantic, and then bingo, it makes a sharp left headed for us. The weather guys said they've never seen anything like it. All I could think of was that Sandy heard about the Rumspringa here and decided to make a detour, heading straight for Amish country. I know we welcome tourists here, but this is ridiculous.
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Hey there Parent in LanCo, it's me, Berks. This truly is one weird storm, and we are prepared. After church we are still going to attend a fundraising walk that has been moved inside, glad they did not cancel! Perhaps schools will be closed tomorrow, we shall see. Haven't seen anything like it since Hurr. Agnes back in 1972, remember that?
The weather conditions in Berks right now are 55 degrees and light rain. Everyone in this storm's path please stay safe and check in as soon as you possibly can.
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Kate is a twit said;Matches scare her--but a $500 meat slicer doesn't? i don't think she uses it herself, it's for her personel chef, the one that prepares all the food!
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Agree.
We agreed awhile back to avoid political discussions on this blog. Contentious as things are, this close to the election, I'm really glad we did.
How's everyone doing this morning? I hope you got a good night's sleep, and that you are well-prepared for whatever havoc this storm holds in store.
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I don't understand someone so disinterested in the world. And she wanted a talk show? You have to have genuine interest in people and things and events to make that a go. Even if you don't like news, at least try to be somewhat aware of what is going on for your children's sake so they won't grow up as ignorant as you.
Andy outing Kate was watching Real Housewives during the debate says everything. 67 million of us were watching, Kate. Seriously?
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I dont understand those poeple either. I thought it was an age thing- you know teens and young 20's, but I guess some people never outgrow it.
I'll admit I didnt watch all 3 rounds of the debates either, BUT thats because I voted already- by absentee ballot, AND I did watch 1 round,just to see these two candidates interact and I also discuss the debates with co-workers so I can keep informed. Kate is so clueless, she probably doesnt even vote, or is even registered. Not about her, not doing it.
Kate is in a rural area and should evacuate closer in. She can get a few hotel rooms out of path and be just fine..
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In this case, it's safer for her to stay where she is and hunker down. Where would she go? She can't go north or south. The storm surrounds us. If she were to go west, she'd have to drive for six hours or more into Ohio since this is such a massive storm.
Good Morning all,
So far in the VA Bch area the winds have picked up and are gusting to 29 mph, rain is still light - moderate. They are predicting serious, very serious flooding from this storm all the way up the East Coast. So, all you coastal folks, please be preparing,if you can, for that.
Not looking forward to the aftermath of this storm, flooding leaves a lot damages, including fatalities. Continue to stay safe, everyone!
I heard about the Tsunami warning in HI, my friend lives right in the path- so any and all affected by BC earthquake and the Tsunmai warning, same to you- stay safe!
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Remona Blue said... 140 :It sometimes amazes me how quickly "Can Do Kate" morphs into "Hasn't a Clue Kate"
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It looks ominous here, but so far calm, rain and winds expected later. It IS scary, much of it b/c we just don't know what/when it will occur & how long any power outages may be...
Butterfly, also, another point about the debate, she knew she was about to go on a talk show and with the debates that very night, how stupid can you be not to anticipate a question about the debates!
For that reason alone she should have watched. She should have known they would be discussed.
Friendly reminder no political discussions please.
Most people have been very careful about this and I thank you.
I am in Northeast Ohio and I dont know WHAT in the sam holy heck is making it's way over us right now, but the radar looks very autumnal, full of orange and red shades. And it is moving very slow! It's raining hard and the winds go from nil to grab-a-tree-and-hold-on. I dont want to, but I have to go out in this in a bit. Ugh.
For those with electric garage door openers: when I leave I am going to make sure that my storm doors are UNlocked and the security chain is OFF the front door! If the power goes out while I am gone, I wont be able to get in through the attached garage and will have to use a key on the front door / hard to manage if I have it all bolted up from the inside!
Anyone who wants to break into the front door of my house in a storm, in a residential area, in daylight, can discuss their intentions with my histrionic Lab and my annoyed Rottweiller!
My mom's power is out in her condo complex, so she couldnt get her car out of the garage this morning for church. She knows about the emergency pull, but really isnt able to manage it on her own. We will go over there later and add some longer cord to the pull and see if we can make it easier for her. She has only been in this condo for a few months so this is new for her.
Rebecca, people were not saying fear of certain dogs was illogical at all. People were repeating what has been told to them about certain dogs. Others of us were pointing out what we knew about certain dogs. It's not like I walk onto an airplane and say oh my gosh one out of 10 airplanes crash. That would be illogical.
It was a friendly discussion and no one was seeking to try to change minds, just to present some new perspectives on it. No one else but you seemed to have a problem.
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Butterfly, also, another point about the debate, she knew she was about to go on a talk show and with the debates that very night, how stupid can you be not to anticipate a question about the debates!
For that reason alone she should have watched. She should have known they would be discussed.
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So true. Kate has no excuse.
pitbull story...
3 yrs ago 2pitbulls wrnt rogue here in mtl..I had no idea..went for a " midnight piknik".
sensed a presence...looked up at 2 angry growling pitbulls..went into universal doggie mode.
we sat still..talking in happy but low tones, heads bowed..subject: cover your neck and roll into a ball if they attack
a frw mins later tjey left.
unfortunately a woman was attacked by them and police put them down..owner was in jail and they were hungry and in hunt mode
franky....
butterfly..thank u for service..me bro is can liason on ne base..they call him old man..30 yrs in and cointing
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Friendly reminder no political discussions please.
Most people have been very careful about this and I thank you.
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Bless you, Admin. This is a safe haven here, except for the adverts on the pages, which YOU have NO control over.
Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 166
Butterfly, also, another point about the debate, she knew she was about to go on a talk show and with the debates that very night, how stupid can you be not to anticipate a question about the debates!
For that reason alone she should have watched. She should have known they would be discussed.
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Oh Admin. You know I luv ya, but sometimes you are so silly. Kate went on that show to talk about KATE. How hot she thinks she looks, how much she wants her own reality show paycheck, how misunderstood and overworked she is, and how mean Jon was to her once 44 years ago. It never ever occured to her than anyone would ask a question of her, other than tell her "Katie, you look plastically hawt, now talk non stop about how much you adore yourself. And be sure to cackle and say ummmm a lot and hand flap too. Ready... GO!"
Presidential debates? Piffle. Someone might ask her about it? Double Piffle. Why would this Andy guy ask her that, when HER purpose was to beg a tv show. A TV show that would be all about KATE, so let's talk All About Kate.
Got it Admin?
Do you remember last year during the horrific (snark) October snow storm Kate suffered through, she was telling her tweeties that she didn't have a fireplace! A couple of months later, Kate and the kids are standing in front of the non-existant fireplace for a Christmas picture.
She never thinks about the consequences of what she does or says.
I get it.
To that I say, Kate, you are not cut out for this business.
This was a Rock n Roll marathon, so does this mean they don't pay for her? Wouldn't she still go if they paid?
Sue Buddy, I think I wuv you!
Another excellent post from Sue:
Kate Gosselin-Hurricane, What Hurricane?
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981726570
I hope everyone in the North East is prepared for Sandy.
Be safe.
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Tomatos I actually prefer earthquakes because there is no days and days of anticipation to them like this. There is no warning, all of a sudden everything is shaking, it doesn't usually last more than a few minutes or sometimes even seconds, and it's done. I'd rather be terrified for a few seconds than to be anxious and worried for days on end.
Stay safe everyone.
Kate's Cart said... 81
If you are prone to power outages its good to have basic camping supplies, like a coleman/propane stove, lantern. They throw off a lot of light, if you want to read etc.
Should also have cash on hand - and don't plan on take out food being available if there is wide spread damage. It could be almost 2 days b4 any crews are able to go out to even start evaluating and making repairs to lines, etc.
We used to camp, I have my mother's old Revere ware percolater.
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Ahh, Revere Ware!!!! My mom still has her entire set, in great shape, from the mid 1950s.
Cash on hand - you are right! ATMs and computers and electronic cash registers wont be working and wont be able to take our plastic.
I think you should evacuate if the authorities tell you to evacuate. Kate's inland and not in the path of some kind of major flooding, so I doubt that's necessary.
Otherwise I think Kate should stay where she is. It clogs the roads unnecessarily when people who do not need to evacuate do so. It's also dangerous in bad weather or with trees and lines down to be on the road. Then people try to come back early, furthering the danger.
Even for wildfires, even though you can see it and smell it and human instinct tells you to get out of there, you have to listen to the firemen and only leave if they tell you to so the roads are free for others and emergency workers. PREPARE and hunker down, unless the authorities tell you otherwise.
Checked out the marathon site again this morning. No Kate Gosselin, No Kate Goslin, No Kate from Beverly Hills, No Kate at all. Unless she is running under a totally different name, Kate is not running in LA.
Looks like if no one is paying for it, Kate ain't running it. I wonder if any of her tweeties will ask her about it.
Speaking of marathons, the NYC marathon is next Sunday. I just hope that Sandy doesn't cause any damage that might cause them to cancel. My daughter is running and it would break my heart if she couldn't fulfill her dream of running this marathon.
Because of the type of the earthquake here in British Columbia last night, the Tsunami alert was cancelled. (The experts said that because to two plates slid on a horizontal plane, rather than overlapping one another, there was less chance of a Tsunami occurring). Initally, because the the magnitude (7.7) the warning was automatically issued. Fortunately, there was little damage and no lives lost.
My nephew called us from Ontario after getting a Google Alert. We had no idea anything had happened, and did not feel it in our area. We turned on CBC, switched over to the Weather Network, and there was no news whatsoever. It showed us the power of the Internet, how quickly you are informed these days. The television networks were well behind the story. It occurred to me that a well-charged device (such as my iPad) is another great tool in an emergency.
Either Mayor Nutter or NJ Gov Christie emphasized that you are to bunker down at home. Then, if that is not possible, stay with family/friends, then if THAT is not possible, say you have no family or friends (cough) you are to go to a shelter.
Good morning all. Hope everyone is prepped for the storm. Hubs has the generator all set as well as the flashlights. I went out yesterday and picked up a couple of cast iron pans that are great for cooking on the grill.
Couple of comments regarding dogs. I was bit twice by the same dog when I was in HS. It was the family dog of a very good friend of mine. The dog knew me well as I was at their house alot and didn't have a problem with me. The family and I never figured out why he bit me. The breed of dog: dachshund. Go figure.
Our nearly eight year old german shepard has the patience of a saint with our 4 1/2 year old grandson. Our grandson loves hanging and rolling all over him. When the dog has had enough he gets up and walks away. When my grandson does this to his five year old female black lab, she growls at him and walks away. She has no patience for him whatsoever. My oldest daughter had a male Boston Terrier that was awful to the youngest daughter's black lab. The Boston terrier would attack the black lab whenever he saw her so they always had to be separated. You never know with dogs; it doesn't matter what the breed is. ANY dog will bite.
Kate is a twit said... 141
It sometimes amazes me how quickly "Can Do Kate" morphs into "Hasn't a Clue Kate".
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Klueless Katie. hehe
Here's the thing with Kate and the helpless act: Lazy Princess. She wants to LIVE in that house, but wants someone, anyone to run it for her. All she wants is her bed, a sofa to lounge on, and a kitchen to hide in from her kids.
And while I do believe she is just this dumb and lazy, I think her lying tweets are a calculated exaggeration to gain pity and attention for once again being the most overworked, put upon, neglected jackass on the planet.
Kate will make this storm all about HER--after reading the book and seeing how Robert described the Halloween storm, you can see how much Kate exaggerates, especially to gain the sympathy of her tweeties. Remember, last year she appeared on the View on Halloween--the storm apparently didn't hinder her travel plans. But she told her tweeties:
@xxxx ...12 inches of snow, almost 2 days of no power& lost trees- like every1 else here :(
localyocul said... 183
Either Mayor Nutter or NJ Gov Christie emphasized that you are to bunker down at home. Then, if that is not possible, stay with family/friends, then if THAT is not possible, say you have no family or friends (cough) you are to go to a shelter.
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LOL! You really should see someone about that cough, localyokul, coz you are making me laugh! That was a good one!
can I add 2 other "weird" animal attacks?
I was attacked by a crow at age 4. He was the "pet" of a family in our neighborhood. He sat on my shoulder and pecked at my gold barettes. The ER doc stopped counting at 32 holes. The neighbor that came out to help me was vacuuming when she saw me out the window...she brought her vacuum cleaner with her! (Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" came out 2 or 3 years later)
(previously mentioned dachshund bite @ age 7)
I was a victim of an attempted dog rape by a mutt when I was 12. Seriously. I ended up all scratched up from my attempts to get away from him. Never figured out WHAT about me set him off. His owners were mortified - this happened inside their home.
Yeah. Sure. Kate has not generator. Actually, I believe her. I don't think she has a generator. I think she has a whole house back up system. After a really bad storm where we live, where we didn't have power for 6 days, we looked into generators/systems and something to power the whole house only costs $10,000.
Never mind the solar panels on the roof, here's the listing information on their OLD house:
"Large brick cape cod w/great location & tons of extras! GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM W/ BACKUP ELECTRIC, new bambo HW floors & new carpet throughout (except LL). ADT wireless security system, lg 22×12 covered rear deck, laundry rm on 1st fl w/2 sets of Whirlpool washers & dryers included in sale! Also included in sale are generator for house & refrigerator in kitchen."
If they had geothermal in that house, with electrical backup, I'm more than sure she has a back up system in the new house. She doesn't need a generator.
Source: http://news.lalate.com/2009/07/29/kate-gosselin-new-house/
Her lies annoy me.
Besides, who in their right mind, during possibly the biggest storm ever in the history of the world, would say, "I want to sell my generator"???? I mean, really now?!?
Oh, MamaK (189) NICE find. "Also included are generator for house ..." I hope that shuts up a few people and moves the discussion onto the lies that are continually part of Kate's myth-building.
Good morning all~
Glued to the weather channel all night....I don't know why I do this to myself. Last evening mayor Bloomberg of NYC did a presser and sort of minimized what he perceived the danger was.....and boy, did the weather channel guys jump all over that. Jim Cantore's reaction (he's covering Battery Park area in NYC) was clearly evident almost immediately...and he clearly disapproved and showed it.
That interaction made me fascinated to contemplate what goes on behind the scenes between government officials and the weather channel. I could just picture all the phone calls suddenly flying back and forth.
Gov. Christie of NJ and Mayor Nutter of Philly are doing a really great job with press conferences, I think. I don't understand why other politicians, especially ones up for re-election (like our Governor), don't get more actively and visibly involved like those two have. You can't get better publicity than this and it's very comforting for the people.
Getting ready to move things around in the garage to see if I can fit my car in there. Was gonna park in the middle of the backyard but if there's flooding, might get stuck there. Raining here but no wind to speak of.
Because I've been so anxious and worried the past few days, my husband took the road of "oh, those weather guys are wrong about 50% of the time". I don't know if that's true or not....but would love to know what the percentage of certainty is that Sandy will absolutely take that left turn to the west. Even if the majority of the models show the same thing....what percentage of chance is there that it's a sure thing?
I've learned a whole lot of great tips from all the commenters here and plan to spend time in the future checking out and learning about alternate options to use in power outages...like the sterno cans, the Coleman stoves, lanterns, etc. Thanks for all the great info. everyone. :)
I bet Kate isn't even at home. If Jon has the kids, she has probably fled and isn't even in the state of PA.
mamaK said... 189
Yeah. Sure. Kate has not generator. Actually, I believe her. I don't think she has a generator. I think she has a whole house back up system. After a really bad storm where we live, where we didn't have power for 6 days, we looked into generators/systems and something to power the whole house only costs $10,000.
Never mind the solar panels on the roof, here's the listing information on their OLD house:
"Large brick cape cod w/great location & tons of extras! GEOTHERMAL SYSTEM W/ BACKUP ELECTRIC, new bambo HW floors & new carpet throughout (except LL). ADT wireless security system, lg 22×12 covered rear deck, laundry rm on 1st fl w/2 sets of Whirlpool washers & dryers included in sale! Also included in sale are generator for house & refrigerator in kitchen."
If they had geothermal in that house, with electrical backup, I'm more than sure she has a back up system in the new house. She doesn't need a generator.
Source: http://news.lalate.com/2009/07/29/kate-gosselin-new-house/
Her lies annoy me.
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Knowing Kate, she read something similar about her house and thought "sounds expensive. Yes, please!!" And has no clue what it is.
I agree she wants to LIVE in her house and have someone/help run it for her. I don't think this is at all what she masterminded- hehehe
The discussion about dog bites is ironic- believe it or not my BIL is in the hospital and had surgery Friday night because of a cat bite. He needs another surgery today and will then have to have 6 weeks of occupational therapy to regain full use of his hand. He was petting my MILs cat who had never bitten anyone before, when all of a sudden the cat bit him. They cleaned it, put neosporin on it and bandaged it, but the next day his hand was getting red and puffy. He went to the doctor and got a course of antibiotics, but it didn't help. He was hospitalized Thursday night to receive IV antibiotics and had the surgery Friday to have the infected tissue removed.
The surgeon told him that anyone who receives a cat bite should go immediately to the ER. A cat tooth is like a long needle, injecting bacteria deep into the tissue. Neosporin can't reach that deeply.
We are all ready for the storm, and I again wish all my fellow East Coasters a safe journey through this behemoth. We'll get through this, we always do :)
Not to belabor the generator/no generator issue, but I saw the posts from the person who said they must not be a good mother since they don't have a generator. One does not need a generator to be a good parent. Not at all.
Kate, on the other hand, chose to make her children public commodities. Her address can be Googled in .83 seconds and she lives on 24 acres. She "has no neighbors." (her words) She is quite wealthy and makes a big show of this, that is, when she's not claiming to be struggling. By choosing to shove herself and her children into the limelight to earn a living, she made them and herself into targets.
Since Kate got on twitter, we have complained that she shares TMI. Her comings and goings, the kids school schedules, picking up from the late bus, when she's going out for a run at night. Again, someone who proclaims saftey is her number one priority, is showing that it is absolutely -not- her first priority. If she brought in a *real* security expert to assess her risks and current precautions, he/she would tell her to get the F off twitter right now. Or at the very least, to NEVER mention the children in any capacity. She won't, because of it's the only thing she has to stay relevant and she knows that info on the kids is a draw for her couple fans. It's also her venue for begging and grifting from companies. When she twitters, she's sending out engraved invitations to people who have bad intentions. A grandmother and 10 month old baby were murdered last week in Philly after a botched kidnapping. Kate is not immune.
So, in a nutshell, a wealthy woman w/8 kids sitting in the dark for 3 days last October, and telling the twitterverse that they are all alone and stranded, was beyond irresponsible. We actually gave her the benefit of a doubt she would take steps to correct this. We were wrong and gave her too much credit.
Paige C @Paige_Kate8fan
@Kateplusmy8 are you guys ok?
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Kate can't manage to squeak out one little tweet to her adoring fans that she's ok. She loves loves loves all the drama. She tweets for help when she's in a panic but can't be bothered now.
MamaK #189, mim #191 -
MamaK has this correctly labeled as the listing for the house they moved out of -
THIS IS NOT THE LISTING FOR THE McMANSION where she currently lives.
wayward said... 195
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Holy Insight, wayward! Nicely said!
Hope your BIL will be ok, what a painful thing to go through.
Leigh Shahan @LEIGHSHAHAN1
@Kateplusmy8 Plz try to tweet us and let us know how its going! Safety first though!!
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Tweet your enablers, Kate! You'd be more of a nothing then you are now without them. They're your only following, poor 6 deluded fools. Clap, clap!.
Well, cancelled our plans. Not going out in this today, would only hydroplane all the way there anyway. Really raining here. Going to start lining up the critters 2 by 2 here...
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